Alex Cooper vs Alix Earle Escalates + Demi Lovato & Selena Gomez's Surprise Reunion

Summary

Chicks in the Office – April 15, 2026

Episode Summary: Alex Cooper vs Alix Earle Escalates + Demi Lovato & Selena Gomez Reunion

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Episode Overview

This episode of Chicks in the Office (hosted by Ria and Fran, with Noah joining in) delivers a high-energy rundown of the week’s most buzzworthy pop culture stories. The main theme is a breakdown of the escalating feud between Alex Cooper and Alix Earle—a drama captivating online audiences, with the Chicks dissecting every twist and motive. The show also recaps the nostalgic and very public reunion of Demi Lovato and Selena Gomez, alongside commentary on viral pop culture moments (hello, Jon Hamm and James Marsden), reality TV news, and a lively listener-driven Popcorner segment.

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Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. The Alex Cooper vs. Alix Earle Feud

What’s Going On?

• Fran jumps into the drama: “I'm getting riled up because why do people think that this Alex Earl and Alex Cooper thing is a PR thing?... Not everything is PR. This is not PR.” (03:43)
• The Chicks break down the recent back-and-forth on TikTok and Instagram, debating whether this clash is manufactured for publicity or a genuine falling-out.
• Ria speculates on hypothetical outcomes—like a Call Her Daddy reconciliation episode—and why it likely won't happen: “Neither of them need PR.” (04:47)
• Listener commentary and updates from Dave Portnoy and Brianna Chickenfry add chaotic layers.

The PR Theory

• The hosts are adamant: the beef isn’t staged. There’s real animosity and zero benefit for Alix Earle to reunite with Cooper publicly.
• Fran: “If they hash it out on Call Her Daddy, it’s only benefiting Call Her Daddy and Unwell and Earl's done with them.” (04:50)
• The group jokes about the duo’s combined name (“Cooper and Earl, injury attorneys!” [07:14]), riffing off their viral potential and mocking the over-the-top internet coverage.

Sides, Responses, and Parallels

• The hosts note most people are siding with Alix Earle: “Overall right now it seems like the Internet is siding with Earl.” (19:45)
• Comparison to celebrity rap beefs: “Noah texted me... I can't help but see the parallels between Drake and Kendrick... Cooper and Earl.” (06:23)
• Theories about whether Alix will respond on TikTok and what the response could be.
• Scrutiny over Alex Cooper’s delayed announcement for Call Her Daddy’s guest, fueling more conspiracy.

Memorable Quotes & Moments

• “Cooper and Earl because it kind of sounds like a law firm… injury attorneys! Call 1-800-Cooper and Earl!” – Fran & Ria joking (07:09)
• “We're just waiting and waiting to see what the response is going to be.” – Fran (05:42)
• “This one's for the white women out there, who care about Alex and Alex.” – Referencing Justin Sylvester and social media takes (25:47)
• The running joke about fans once confusing the two Alexes for the same person (26:09)

Notable Timestamps

• Addressing "PR stunt" accusations: 03:43–05:02
• Law firm jokes and naming bit: 06:23–07:53
• Listener reactions and social side-taking: 17:52–19:51

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2. Demi Lovato & Selena Gomez's Surprise Reunion

The Reunion

• The Chicks react live to video and photos of Selena Gomez at Demi Lovato’s first tour stop—a friendship rekindled after years apart.
• Fran: “What did we do to deserve this? Nostalgia is healing us right now.” (28:38)
• Selena gushes about Demi’s performance. The Chicks express both joy and FOMO (fear of missing out), dreaming about an even larger Disney Channel reunion.

Pop Culture Impact

• They speculate about the significance: Is it a hint at more reunions (“Send It On” 20th anniversary, Miley, Jonas Brothers, etc.)? (29:00)
• Deep dive into the emotional resonance of childhood besties reconnecting as adults: “Sometimes you just need one thing that brings you back together… all that stupid shit really doesn’t matter now.” – Ria (34:14)

Notable Quotes and Reactions

• “Seeing Joe Jonas and Demi Lovato sing On The Line in the year of our Lord 2026... That’s gonna be a regret for life.” – Fran (37:27)
• “She is such an incredible voice… if Demi Lovato was stripped down, microphone, nothing else—it would be the best thing ever created.” – Ria (33:09)

Timestamps

• Selena and Demi’s reunion announced: 28:48–34:53
• Emotional resonance & their Disney Channel era: 34:53–36:06

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3. Viral Pop Culture Tidbits

Celebrity Banter: “Who’s the Hottest Onscreen?”

• Spirited debate over James Marsden, Jon Hamm, and Olivia Munn.
• “Jon Hamm’s known for his big... Ham. Yeah.” – Fran, joking and referencing viral internet rumors (09:33)

Katy Perry & Ruby Rose Allegations

• Update: Katy Perry’s team “categorically denies” Ruby Rose’s explosive claims.
• “There’s a certain level of denial you can pull off… sometimes you get a denial that’s like, no, that’s not true. A quiet denial. And you’re like, suspicious.” – Ria & Fran (41:21)

Coachella Romance Watch

• ‘Mormon Wives’ Chase McWhorter spotted kissing influencer Hallie Bachelder—met with skepticism and playful ribbing: “He’s kissing, period. One thing I know about Chase, he’s kissing.” – Ria (44:19)

Timestamps

• Celebrity banter & James Marsden chat: 08:10–14:27
• Katy Perry story: 39:51–41:58
• Coachella romance: 41:58–45:44

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4. Popcorner Segment: Listener Hot Takes

Noteworthy Calls and Chicks’ Replies

• Euphoria’s Loss of Labyrinth as Composer (47:26):

  • Caller laments the musical shift post-Labyrinth. The Chicks agree, citing “creative differences” and drama with Sam Levinson. “Labyrinth’s music really made those first seasons.” – Ria (51:03)

• ‘The City’ and Carl Omission (49:49):

  • Caller wonders why Carl is absent. Chicks note Lindsay Hubbard is at the “centerpiece” of production and likely didn’t want her ex involved. “It's like, hey, I actually don't want my ex-finance to be on this show too.” – Ria (53:24)

• Alex Cooper, Alex Earle & 'Unwell Games' Backlash (54:42):

  • Caller claims Cooper is “desperately trying to stay relevant” by stirring up drama.
  • Fran: “It was wild that there was no talk of the Dakota anything of the Unwell games. But then she makes a video about this... that is pretty wrong.” (55:56)
  • The Chicks agree that Cooper’s timing is suspicious, especially as internet sentiment swings toward Earle.

• Bachelorette Men’s Irrelevancy (59:45):

  • Caller says she “has no desire to get to know any of the men” from the axed Taylor Frankie Paul Bachelorette season, despite podcasts trying to make them relevant. The Chicks agree.

Timestamps

• Euphoria composer: 47:26–51:49
• ‘The City’ discussion: 51:49–54:41
• Alex Cooper relevance debate: 54:42–58:27
• Bachelorette men & franchise: 59:45–62:19

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Notable Quotes

• “This one is layered. Like a lasagna because there is more and more to come out.” – Fran on the Cooper/Earle saga (19:33)
• “This is a study on what happens to people who have been at the tippy tippy top. And now people turn on you.” – Ria on media narratives (57:57)
• “All that shit that happened when we were 18, 19, 20—let’s let that shit go.” – Ria (34:24)

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Essential Timestamps

• 03:43 – PR stunt accusations in Cooper vs. Earle
• 07:09 – Law firm joke ("Cooper and Earl, injury attorneys!")
• 17:52 – Listener reactions to feud
• 28:48 – Selena Gomez and Demi Lovato reunion details
• 39:51 – Katy Perry statement on Ruby Rose
• 41:58 – Mormon Wives' Chase McWhorter Coachella story
• 47:26 – Popcorner: Euphoria’s Labyrinth/Hans Zimmer debate
• 54:42 – Popcorner: Cooper/Earle and Unwell backlash

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Recap Tone & Style

True to Chicks in the Office’s brand, the episode is fast-paced, witty, and deeply plugged into internet culture. Ria and Fran’s dialogue is a blend of candid, irreverent, and playful, always relatable and tinged with self-aware humor. The episode manages to make light of internet chaos while also providing insight into the media machinery—and throws in some delightful nostalgia bombs along the way.

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For Listeners Who Missed the Episode

From dissecting the truth behind influencer feuds to emotionally reliving a major Disney Channel reunion, this episode is a crash course in the latest pop culture drama, delivered with signature Chicks flair. Whether you need to know what’s next in the Cooper/Earle beef, want to bask in Demi & Selena’s surprise friendship, or just want to hear the internet’s hottest takes, this episode covers it all—no filter, no crumbs left behind.

Transcript

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[Fran]

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[Fran]

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[Ria]

Happy Wednesday.

[Fran]

Happy Wednesday. How are we feeling today?

[Ria]

Happy Wednesday.

[Fran]

Harmonize with me baby.

[Ria]

Be I feel lovely. The spring is sprung a little too sprung.

[Fran]

Oh God. It's never good for you. It's either too cold or it's too strong.

[Ria]

Like where's spring honey?

[Noah]

Like a four day little window.

[Ria]

I know this is fake summer. Well, we already got fake summer, so now we're getting fake summer part two.

[Noah]

This is real fake. We're like 90s.

[Ria]

Like no, I know, but then it's going to be cold again next week. So I'm just saying we're getting fake summer part two. But once again I'm complaining because my apartment gets too hot.

[Fran]

Well then we got to get you a fan or something because I am loving the building.

[Ria]

I said can we please turn the heat off? They said not yet.

[Fran]

Well, honestly, then I'm with you. That's bullshit.

[Ria]

But, yeah.

[Fran]

The weather today is so gorgeous.

[Ria]

It's gorgeous.

[Fran]

It's fucking gorgeous out.

[Ria]

Here's the thing.

[Fran]

My.

[Ria]

My olive walk this morning, when it was 68 degrees and sunny. Gorgeous, Gorgeous. It's a little hot now, but it's. The sun is shining. That's really all we can be thankful for. It's another day where the sun is shining.

[Caller]

That's.

[Fran]

Hey, let's just be thankful for that.

[Ria]

Anytime the sun's out, I'm good.

[Fran]

Yeah, me too. I have a cup of coffee in my hand right now. I got my lipstick on it. Like, it's early 2000. Like, I'm going through Dairy Barn, and that's how I feel. Mm. I need a little magazine. You know, I'm feeling feisty today.

[Ria]

You are, a little bit. Yeah.

[Fran]

Yeah. Like, I'm talking shit. I'm.

[Ria]

You're looking for a confrontation.

[Fran]

I'm looking for a fight today, you know, but like, in a fun way. Like, it's like a fun banter fight, but at the same time, I got a lot to say.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Fran]

You know.

[Ria]

Agreed.

[Fran]

And that's. That's where I'm at. It's just, you know, it's that kind of day. It's like when the sun revs up your engine.

[Ria]

I know, but you. But you get a little angry because you're. You got to be inside. Yeah.

[Fran]

Well, I'm like, ah, I need to run free.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Fran]

Yeah. I'm getting riled up because why do people think that this Alex Earl and Alex Cooper thing is a PR thing? It's the same people.

[Ria]

Another video.

[Fran]

It's the same people that thought that Amanda and West was an April Fool's joke. Yeah. Not everything is pr. This is not pr.

[Ria]

Now, this would make for a great video to post if Alex Earl is the guest on Call Her Daddy this week.

[Fran]

But that's not gonna happen. That is not gonna happen.

[Ria]

What if it does?

[Fran]

She already did all that. She worked at the.

[Ria]

I know. I agree. I agree. Where people. Where have people been? Did they miss that whole thing that

[Fran]

she went on the show and worked at the company? Everything. Why would she be going on Colorado to talk about her skincare brand?

[Ria]

I don't even know if it's like that. If it would be that. It's like, oh, promo for the skincare. I think it would be like them teaming up to be saying, let's make the maximum amount of this, but it would only really benefit Cooper, which makes me think, why would they do. Why would Earl do it? You know, it's not Bennett. Like, because it would.

[Noah]

Neither of them need pr.

[Fran]

Neither of them.

[Ria]

What people are saying is like, oh, this is some whole big thing to like, get them to hash it out on Color Daddy. Okay, well, if they hash it out on Color Daddy, it's only benefiting Hollerdaddy and Unwell and Earl's done with them.

[Fran]

Right. Why would Alex Earl want to give her the numbers? Yeah, I don't. That's not happening.

[Ria]

I agree.

[Fran]

I think it's just because somebody needs to speak. We need to know what's happening. Because, by the way, we're recording this podcast. Dave put on his. On his story that Brianna messaged him and said, Alex Earl is going to destroy Alex Cooper. She wrote she's going to destroy her. But now we're recording and it's 3pm on Tuesday.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Fran]

By the time we put this out, I'm gonna be really pissed. If we put this out and we don't. And then all of a sudden we wake up and there's a video from Alex Earl and our listeners don't get to hear our thoughts on it until Friday.

[Ria]

Right. We're going to have to pop on

[Fran]

with an emergency episode because everyone wants to know the thoughts and we're just waiting and waiting to see what the response is going to be.

[Ria]

I don't know if she will. To be honest. I was kind of on Dave's side of like, he posted on his story that he's starting to think that her. I'm on. It was like, like a sarcastic, you know, I'm on a girlfriend.

[Noah]

I'm fudgeing until she posts a different video on TikTok. I feel like.

[Ria]

Right.

[Noah]

People are gonna like, she hasn't posted on TikTok since this whole.

[Fran]

So true. Yeah.

[Ria]

But she's posted pictures and stuff on Instagram.

[Noah]

Pictures, though. But that's. That's a different platform.

[Fran]

Her bread and butter is tick tock, though. She hasn't posted.

[Noah]

She was calling on TikTok. Alex Hoover didn't put it anywhere else.

[Fran]

Yeah, she's got to respond on TikTok. Yeah, yeah.

[Noah]

It's all going down on TikTok.

[Ria]

It's all going down on.

[Fran]

You know, Noah texted me on the side yesterday and goes, I can't help but see the parallels between Drake and Kendrick.

[Noah]

No, I was literally like, between Cooper and Earl.

[Ria]

Between.

[Fran]

You know what? We have to start doing Cooper and Earl because I'm Going first And licks. I see people trying.

[Ria]

Yeah, I see Lex and Licks. I know. I like Cooper and Earl because it kind of sounds like a law firm. Like, you know, like.

[Fran]

Like a.

[Ria]

Like an injury law firm. Oh, you had an accident. Call Cooper, Earl.

[Fran]

That's all the funniest things you've ever said. Oh, my God.

[Ria]

They're available for all your accent coverage.

[Fran]

We got to make a whole jingle for. Yeah, yeah.

[Ria]

1-800-Cooper and Earl.

[Fran]

Yeah, the Earl is serious.

[Ria]

What is that actually Seleno and Barnes.

[Noah]

Like, they have the same.

[Ria]

No, no, but we just did that. Stanley Seymour.

[Fran]

Yeah, yeah, Stanley Seymour.

[Ria]

Because I was like, we're just in 1-800-steamer.

[Fran]

Like 1-800-selena and Barnes. Injury attorneys. Cooper and Earl, injury attorneys. Call 2-9 3, 8-60- or. That's not. Yeah, that's not. That's not the number. But that wouldn't be enough numbers.

[Ria]

Cooper and Earl is Cooper and Earl.

[Fran]

Or it could be, like, a general store. Cooper and Earl's.

[Ria]

Right, Right, right, right. See, we're headed down to CNN's.

[Noah]

That would be, like, good merch, honestly.

[Fran]

Yeah, yeah.

[Noah]

Cooper General Store. Like, Cooper. Yeah, that'd be cool.

[Ria]

Cooper and Rose. A cute name. If Alex. Earl is ever, like, thinking about potential

[Fran]

boy names, I think Cooper is probably out of the list. That's off the list.

[Ria]

Coop. Earl.

[Fran]

Coopie.

[Ria]

Coop.

[Fran]

Coop.

[Ria]

Coop.

[Fran]

That's. So.

[Ria]

I watched the first two episodes of your Friends and Neighbors. So I have that in my head.

[Fran]

Coop.

[Ria]

Coop. My God, you are right, James. I mean, you're right. I mean, it's. Without fail. This is. The guy steals the show, and neither of you told me that it was like, a potential love situation with Olivia Munn.

[Noah]

I didn't want to spoil anything, but literally, like, within the first two minutes of introducing his character, he's Olivia Munn's riding away in his car.

[Ria]

Yeah, I'm like, it can't get hotter than those two.

[Fran]

Sometimes the side characters. Wait, you think it can't get hotter than James Marsden and.

[Ria]

Oh, my God. James Mars and Olivia Munn. So hot. So hot.

[Fran]

Like, to me, I'm not in that bracket. So hot.

[Ria]

I.

[Fran]

You know, I'm not having that.

[Ria]

James Mars is my guy.

[Noah]

Are they the two hottest people on that show?

[Fran]

Yes. I just.

[Ria]

I do think Amanda P. Is gorgeous.

[Fran]

Are we forgetting about Jon Hamm's ginormous cock?

[Ria]

No, no, I.

[Fran]

Just kidding. I need to say that. I only said that for shock value.

[Ria]

Yes, yes, yes.

[Fran]

I would never say the C word in front of you. Guys like that.

[Noah]

Wait, am I forgetting something? Like, oh, my God, you don't know about that.

[Fran]

Jon Hamm's giant.

[Noah]

Like, how do people know about that?

[Ria]

It's photographic evidence.

[Noah]

What? He went nude in a movie?

[Ria]

No, no, no. It's. We can look through the pants.

[Fran]

He's actually never gone nude.

[Ria]

No, he's never gone nude. But, my God, you can see the print.

[Fran]

The print is out of this John Ham Hamilton. John Ham's known for his big. Ham. Yeah.

[Ria]

You've never seen the pictures?

[Noah]

No, I haven't seen the pictures.

[Fran]

Listen, this is going to be really degrading, but look up John Ham's dick on Google.

[Ria]

Might bring you to a different site.

[Noah]

Comes up is New York Post, Jon Ham dresses. The penis thing. No underwear rumor.

[Ria]

Yes, There was a rumor he wasn't wearing underwear around town.

[Fran]

Oh.

[Noah]

He was talking about Andy Cohen about it.

[Ria]

And his pants.

[Fran]

Wow. Congratulations.

[Noah]

That's like. It's like, you know how, like, Superman can see through? That's what it feels like. It's. So what kind of pants are those?

[Ria]

Everyone thought he wasn't wearing underwear.

[Fran]

Next week, Noah's like, you know what? Jon Hamm does carry this show. That's why I was kind of shocked that you were just, like, throwing Jon Hamm to the side.

[Noah]

James Marsden's like, I mean, I'm just going off charisma, right?

[Fran]

But Jon Hamm has. Jon Hamm has a lot of charisma.

[Ria]

The pictures really are insane. Jon Hamm's like, Into the mic.

[Fran]

Oh, my God. I wish we can go back, like, two minutes ago and I could take back saying ginormous cock.

[Ria]

Ginormous cock.

[Fran]

Yeah. I wish I could take that back. Cut that out. But I. I will say, like, I'm not like, hot and steamy over James Mars and Olivia Munn. I was.

[Ria]

I really. I was like, that's a. That's.

[Fran]

Bring it up.

[Ria]

That's a great duo.

[Noah]

I think they're. They're two different types of, like, James Marson will, like, woo you. I feel like John Hamm is just kind of relying on, like, cool. I'm cool guy.

[Fran]

Jon Hammer relying on his.

[Caller]

I mean.

[Noah]

Yeah.

[Fran]

And yeah, enough. It's not nice.

[Noah]

I mean, why would he have a problem with it, you hyping him up

[Ria]

like that, you know, no one likes to be talked about that way.

[Fran]

It just feels a little worse.

[Noah]

Things that could be said about you.

[Ria]

Yeah, yeah. For sure.

[Fran]

Grading, you know? Yeah. Yeah.

[Noah]

If the roles were reversed.

[Ria]

Well, I feel like. Yeah.

[Fran]

Jon Ham's like, Ria with that big fat ass. Wait, he's on.

[Ria]

He's the podcast host with a giant fucking ass.

[Fran]

He's on. Watch what happens live with Andy Cohen. He's like, wait, look it up. You didn't know Rhea had a fat ass? Oh, God. Oh, man.

[Ria]

No, I actually think. I thought they made a good couple on the show.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Ria]

Keep going back to the. I was. I was going back. Well, I laughed. Cause I was watching with Joe, and Joe was like, first of all, I said, james Marson is in the new season. Like, this would be great. And he was like, oh, great. And then he goes, oh, yeah, the guy from jury duty. And I went. I went, I'm sorry. We're describing James Marsden as the guy from jury duty. He was like, yeah, it was like, not literally every other. Like, I would put jury duty on, like, the bottom of the list of things that James Marsden is.

[Noah]

The whole point of him being on jury duty was he was like a real star.

[Fran]

That's hilarious.

[Ria]

I was, like, naming all these other things that James Marsden is in, and he, like, fresh. Oh, yeah. The guy from jury duty. I was like, I mean, yeah, but

[Fran]

that's hilarious. Where would you say James Marson's from?

[Ria]

My. I mean, my first thing I would. I would say is, like, 27 dresses. 27 dresses goes number one. And then I'd probably go, the Notebook.

[Noah]

Isn't he an Ella Enchanted?

[Ria]

Enchanted.

[Fran]

Enchanted.

[Ria]

For sure not. He's not in Ella Enchanted Enchanted.

[Noah]

Oh, enchanted.

[Fran]

Just enchanted.

[Noah]

What's Ella Enchanted?

[Ria]

Ella Enchanted is Anne Hathaway.

[Noah]

Oh, I've seen. Not Ellen chanted.

[Fran]

Hugh.

[Ria]

Hugh Dancy.

[Noah]

He's an Avengers Doomsday.

[Ria]

Hugh Dar.

[Fran]

Hugh. Hugh. You Dancy.

[Ria]

Hugh dance. That's his name, right? Claire Danes, his husband.

[Fran]

Hugh dancing. You dancey.

[Ria]

That's his name, right?

[Fran]

I have no idea.

[Noah]

Hugh dancing.

[Ria]

Yeah. Please look up Claire Danes husband's name is Hugh Dancing. Hugh Dancy. Yeah. Thank you. That's his name. And then I would. And then honestly, racism. Is he biased? I'd probably go, paradise.

[Noah]

That's a pretty hilarious last name.

[Fran]

And also his first name being Hugh.

[Ria]

Hugh.

[Fran]

Hugh Dancy.

[Ria]

Yeah. I wonder if anybody's ever laughed at Hugh Dancy's name like this before. He's been around for a long time.

[Fran]

I'm like, dripping.

[Noah]

Wait, he wasn't dead to me.

[Ria]

Dripping sweat to me is a big one. James Mars.

[Noah]

He was in Westworld.

[Ria]

I never watched Westworld.

[Noah]

Some.

[Ria]

The Notebook. Yeah.

[Noah]

Anchorman. Was he an anchorman? The first thing, or. He's an anchorman. Too.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Fran]

Wasn't he in that superhero movie?

[Noah]

It says he was an Avengers Doomsday.

[Ria]

Yeah, that's not. Oh, oh, I'm missing. I'm missing his biggest one. X Men.

[Fran]

That's what I'm saying. Superhero.

[Ria]

Yeah, he's Wolverine. No, no, no, he was Sonic, obviously. Sonic. I mean, he made a lot of money from those ones. Lot of money. No, I'm thinking of Cyclops. He plays Cyclops in X Men.

[Fran]

Yes, yes.

[Noah]

He was in 30 Rock.

[Ria]

Yeah, very good. He plays. I think he was a Liz Lemon boyfriend.

[Noah]

No, he wasn't the first anchorman. Yeah, he was one of the rival news in the original increment.

[Fran]

I think when they all meet up to fight. He's a small part then. Yeah.

[Noah]

Once upon a time in Hollywood.

[Ria]

Hairspray.

[Noah]

What was he?

[Ria]

Corny Collins. Oh my God.

[Fran]

Corny Collins.

[Ria]

Corny Collins. He has quite the wrestler naming things that I would say before Jury dude.

[Noah]

What was he in Once Upon a.

[Fran]

I don't remember him.

[Ria]

I don't remember him in that movie.

[Noah]

He played a young bird. Was he playing Burt Reynolds like in a TV show?

[Ria]

Yes, yes.

[Fran]

When they're watching from home. When Leo's watching, I believe.

[Noah]

Yeah.

[Ria]

Lots of X Men. Lots of X Men stuff. Yeah. So, yeah, hitting me with the guy from Jury Duty. Really?

[Fran]

That's hilarious.

[Ria]

Really made me laugh. But no, other than that he. He is. He is still on the show in a good way.

[Fran]

Why were we talking about.

[Ria]

Because I said I was watching your friends and neighbors. Because of Coop. His name is Coop. And we were talking about the Law firm of Cooper and Earl.

[Fran]

Right. Glad to circle back.

[Ria]

Well, anyway, Law firm of Cooper and Earl.

[Fran]

We should probably get into the rest of the topics. I guess we'll start off with that one.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Fran]

We're also going to be talking about Selena and Demi reuniting at Demi Lovato's first show. And Joe Jonas came out. You kidding me? We got a Katy Perry follow up to the Ruby Rose story. And it seems like Chase from Mormon Wives was seen maybe having a little rendezvous with Hallie Bachelder at Coachella. Yeah, and we have the Popcorner. So let's get into it. This is my favorite time of day right now when I get to crack open a Pepsi Prebiotic cola. They have two flavors, the cherry vanilla and the original cola. They are so delicious. And they're only 30 calories. They're 5 grams of sugar and 3 grams of prebiotic fiber. So it's that perfect little pick me up that you need during the day, lunchtime, you go home, you sit in front of your tv, you want to crack open a nice Pepsi. And if you haven't tried them yet, you are really missing out. We are stacked up in the office and at home of our Pepsi Prebiotic Cola. It tastes delicious. So go out there and try it. And even more exciting, we have a code you can use promo code 20Prebiotic to get 20% off of Pepsi Prebiotic Cola on Amazon from now until May 30th. So, so exciting with the code once again. 20 prebiotic on Amazon from now until May 30th. So get out and try the Pepsi Prebiotic Cola today. So we kind of summed it up already. But Alex Earl commented on Alex Cooper's video, calling her out to say, hey, tell me what you did. And Alex Earl commented, okay on it with two exclamation points to be exact.

[Ria]

Yep.

[Fran]

And now people have been waiting on the edge of their seat to find out what she's going to do, how she's going to reply. And Dave made a video and said that he doesn't think that she's actually gonna do anything. Cause she's being sarcastic, being like, all right, I'm on it, girlfriend, Girlfriend. But then Brianna Chicken Fry responded, too

[Ria]

busy for this shit.

[Fran]

Yeah, Brianna responded and said she's going to destroy her. So now that has me to believe that she is cooking up some sort of video.

[Ria]

Yeah, I'm really not sure. I don't know if she's cooking up a video. I do kind of think that there is a. And Briana's confirmed it, too. She, like, she had commented on our chicks in the office post of the original Alex Cooper video and wrote ew. And then someone on TikTok I saw made a video being like, Brianna commented, ew. But is the ooh about Earl or is it about Cooper? And she commented Cooper, obviously. So she's made her stance pretty clear. However, I think that there is probably a bias on the Cooper side for Brie already, regardless of the fact that I, you know, her and Earl are friendly, but just solely from the. With Grace.

[Fran]

Right, Right.

[Ria]

Like, I, I, I just think, like, I just kind of think already Bri, like, doesn't fuck with Cooper because of the Grace. Wanted to go work for her.

[Fran]

Right. Oh, so there are levels to this shit.

[Ria]

There. There are levels to the shit that keep on climbing up rooftop.

[Fran]

Okay. Hugh Dancy. No, there are definitely levels.

[Ria]

You should start singing levels anytime. There's a really layered story.

[Fran]

This one is layered. Like a Lasagna because there is more and more to come out. And really, I'm just waiting on the edge of my seat, like, I think we all are. I want to know what the response

[Ria]

is

[Fran]

overall right now it seems like the Internet is siding with Earl.

[Ria]

Yeah, it's a resounding Earl.

[Fran]

Yeah, resounding.

[Ria]

It's like. But what was that TV show? My Life with Earl.

[Fran]

My name is Earl.

[Ria]

My name is.

[Fran]

My name is Earl.

[Ria]

My name is My Life with Earl.

[Fran]

My. My Life with Eric. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Ria]

My name is Earl.

[Fran]

My life would not. My Life with Derek is Life with Derek. And that one was suspicious because it was almost like the siblings were. The step siblings were.

[Ria]

Yeah, they were dating.

[Fran]

Right.

[Ria]

Is that the thing? They, like, fell in love.

[Fran]

They flirted a lot.

[Ria]

Wasn't the whole premise of the show.

[Fran]

It was like, my Life with Derek. Like, oh, my God, This. This shit has like, I'm in love

[Ria]

with him, but I like Derek.

[Fran]

Yeah. I love it. Yeah. What are the rules on that? I don't know.

[Ria]

I kind of think of the.

[Fran]

Like, it's definitely not okay.

[Ria]

No, but like this, you know, Serena and. And

[Fran]

Chuck.

[Ria]

No.

[Fran]

Nate.

[Ria]

Nope. What the fuck is Penn Badgley's name?

[Fran]

Dan.

[Ria]

Dan.

[Fran]

Sorry.

[Ria]

God.

[Noah]

Dan Humphrey.

[Ria]

Dan Humphrey.

[Noah]

I didn't even watch the show.

[Ria]

I know. I'm having a real brain fart today. I can only call people by their last names, so remembering people's first names is really tricky.

[Fran]

Humphrey.

[Ria]

When. When their parents are together, and I was like, oh, they were together, but then they were also dating. That was weird.

[Fran]

There's something funky about that. You know, I feel like it's a no fly zone. But it happens.

[Ria]

It happens. It does. It does. It does happen. You just think, like, eventually one of the couples needs to break up, but you just never. You just never know. But, yeah. Just think. There's so many.

[Fran]

Just think somebody out there right now is listening to this and they're dating their step sibling. Their hat. Statistically, I think there's got to be one.

[Ria]

Yeah. Or it's like, I don't know. You grew up together, parents were married. Maybe they got divorced. Now they're not together. But you're together.

[Fran]

You're like, we spend so much time together. Yeah. Okay. Anyways, my name is Earl.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Fran]

Was the show.

[Ria]

Yes. Correct.

[Fran]

That was my least favorite show that my parents would watch.

[Ria]

I'd never watched it with cbs. Right.

[Fran]

It came on, like, after Two and a Half Men.

[Ria]

Right, right, right, right, right. Yeah. Yeah. You know, I don't know. This whole Thing like the Earl. I don't think Alex Earl is going. I don't know.

[Fran]

I don't.

[Ria]

I just like, don't think she's going to post anything.

[Fran]

I do. I think the video coming. I think the video is coming Wednesday. Tuesday night. The podcast will be done. We'll have to wait till Friday to talk about. I could feel it. I can feel what's gonna happen. She's gonna make a TikTok video, she's gonna lay it out, and then we will not hear from Alex Cooper.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Fran]

I feel like it's gonna be like a one and done.

[Ria]

Yeah. And I really. I know we just, maybe we will

[Fran]

hear from Alex Cooper, but from her video, she was like, I'm done with this.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Fran]

Unless you have something to say. So maybe she will respond.

[Noah]

Alex Cooper's gonna pull like a Drake and be like, drop, drop.

[Fran]

Like, yeah. I just not posting, like, I'm just wondering. I do think she'll make a video. I just don't know how long this will go on for.

[Ria]

People were fixated on the fact that it's Tuesday and Cooper still hasn't dropped her teaser for the Wednesday Call Her Daddy episode. Because normally that happens as, you know,

[Noah]

maybe Alex is waiting to step on that.

[Ria]

Normally that app happens on like Monday or Tuesday. She teases the Wednesday guest and she hasn't shared anything. So people are like, holy shit. Maybe that's also why it's Alex Earl. But the problem with that logic to me too is like Earl's been shading her in the comments and reposts for months now. So it's like now they're that one last repost. Maybe it was the catalyst to. To having some sit down podcast thing. I just really don't. I just really don't see it because that was like a really intense video to repost. You know, it wasn't like, I don't like Alex Cooper. It was like she's an ambulance chaser and like preys on victims, like in their most innocent times.

[Fran]

So I saw this pop up on Threads. I don't have Threads, but you know how threads pops up on your Instagram.

[Ria]

Yeah, yeah.

[Fran]

And the first thing that popped up was that people were pointing out that Alex Cooper was wearing nail polish in her picture from Coachella.

[Ria]

I saw that.

[Fran]

And then in the video she made, she wasn't wearing nail polish.

[Ria]

Yeah, she.

[Fran]

She. Did she take off her nail polish?

[Ria]

Well, unfortunately, yeah. Or. Or it was pre recorded. And that does lend into the whole this is fake situation. But I.

[Fran]

It's not.

[Ria]

I think it is.

[Fran]

She's not going on call her daddy today.

[Ria]

Boy, are we gonna look dumb. If she is egg on my face,

[Fran]

then I'll eat it, but I do not think that is the case.

[Ria]

I agree with you.

[Fran]

What are they gonna. You're hesitant to agree.

[Ria]

No, I agree with you. I do. I don't think she's doing that. It wouldn't make any sense to me.

[Fran]

What would be the. What would.

[Ria]

It just. It benefits. There's no benefit to Earl for doing that.

[Fran]

None.

[Ria]

Cooper and Earl, injury attorneys.

[Fran]

Okay, moving on. While we wait, I bet, like, we'll be 50 minutes into this podcast and they'll say, breaking news.

[Noah]

I literally just thought about, like, faking it and. And getting a reaction out of you, and I just.

[Fran]

I would have been rude.

[Noah]

Oh, my God.

[Fran]

Don't even. Don't even.

[Ria]

We could tell because it would. He would show more emotion faking it than he would if it really happened.

[Fran]

You're so right.

[Ria]

Like when the Bachelorette was canceled. Well, the Bachelorette's canceled.

[Fran]

Well, breaking news.

[Ria]

Breaking news. Bachelorette's canceled.

[Fran]

Yeah. This would be like, whoa, guys.

[Ria]

Like, holy shit. Alex Roll just posted.

[Fran]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Ria]

And when in reality, if Alex Roll did post, I would be like, oh, shit, she posted.

[Noah]

I know. I'm kind of invested in this way more than the Bachelorette.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Ria]

So he.

[Fran]

He was. He's texting me like, you know, I love. I'm trying to decide which one's kind of.

[Noah]

I love a good beef.

[Ria]

Who doesn't V one beef is.

[Noah]

And one v one of like, like the top. Like, yeah, this is like Kevin Drake.

[Fran]

This is old school.

[Noah]

Yeah. Like, this is rare.

[Fran]

Yeah, it's rare. They have the same name.

[Ria]

I did crack up a.

[Fran]

Just thank God they're spelled differently now.

[Ria]

I did crack up a Justin Sylvester posting like a video about past, like, one on one beefs, all these things. He's like, this one's for the white women out there.

[Fran]

So true.

[Ria]

Who were F on Alex and Alex.

[Fran]

Yes.

[Noah]

Yeah, they got the same name. Like, like, it's like, you can't make a movie about this.

[Fran]

So many people thought that they were the same person.

[Ria]

Did you see?

[Fran]

It was concerning, actually.

[Ria]

I know. Did you see. Once again, always in the mix. But Harry Jowsey did post a funny TikTok of like, a picture of the three of them.

[Fran]

Like, Harry Jowsey's always at the scene of the crime.

[Ria]

Always at the scene of the crime. And when in doubt, Harry Jowsey's involved in some Way.

[Fran]

It's Harry Jowsey and Dave Porno. They're always. It's like they're. They're always in something somehow. Okay, guys, it's grit week. This is the part of the football calendar where nobody's watching, but everything gets built. Early mornings, pads back on, conditioning, film reps. Spring training in football is all about putting in the work when nobody's cheering yet. And honestly, that's the same mindset behind the Chevy Silverado. This is a truck that is the definition of grit. Long days, dirty work, and showing up day after day, no matter the conditions. Strong, dependable, and built for the grind. Because grit isn't about being flashy. It's about being ready when it's time to go. Check out the current offers and build your [e-mail]. that's Silverado. All grit, no quit. And you can build your [e-mail] today. Is it talked about enough that Harry Jowsey looks just like Leo Woodall?

[Noah]

Because I feel like it was.

[Fran]

Because in Vladimir, he really looks like him. Really? It's actually, to be honest, I don't

[Ria]

think that that's ever crossed my.

[Noah]

I feel like when he was in a big show, like, people were saying

[Fran]

that in Vladimir specifically, I'm like, this is just Harry Jowsey.

[Ria]

That hasn't crossed my mind. But now that you bring that up, I totally see it.

[Fran]

Yeah. Wild. All right, moving on. This was humongous last night. Laying in bed. Huncy Mungus laying in bed. Seeing Demi Lovato's first show of the tour in Orlando, and there are a couple of videos being sprinkled around like, oh, look, it's Selena Gomez in the crowd. Okay. Is it really? We haven't seen them interact in 20 years. Could this be. It was. Selena Gomez attended Demi Lovato's first show of the tour. She posted all on her story. She posted such a sweet picture of them hugging. She posted, you know, Demi's vocals are insane. Pictures of her dancing in her merch. Like, this whole thing is so healing. And I truly thought to myself, what did we do to deserve this? Nostalgia is healing us right now. We're being served. And by the way, it's also paying. Nostalgia is paying as well because clearly people know what it's doing. It's putting money in pockets and we're eating it up. So, like, it's the best of both worlds. Get it?

[Ria]

Totally. And I was talking to somebody in the DMs about this, that we're like, really one step Closer to getting a full senate on reunion.

[Fran]

If they can all get along, which it seems like they can.

[Ria]

This seems like they can. They've all really been together in pieces. We just need to get Miley and the Jonas brothers back together.

[Fran]

Here's the thing. I think that Priyanka's too jealous for that. I think Priyanka does not want Nick to be in the room with Miley. And.

[Ria]

And, yeah, but like, Nick has. But it's like all of them.

[Fran]

I know. You know, I think that you can

[Ria]

make an argument for literally all of them.

[Fran]

I think that Miley and Selena are touchy names in the brothers household.

[Ria]

Maybe. I don't know.

[Fran]

I'm just joshing. I mean, like, I'm just.

[Ria]

No, I know you're. I know you are. I know you are. But I'm. I'm. I'm actually thinking, like, I really do think that they would all do something. When's the 20th anniversary of when was Send It? When did Send it on get made, do you think?

[Fran]

Send It On 20 2008.

[Ria]

Send It on was released on August 11, 2009. So, damn, that would be a lot of years to go for 20th made all the way till 2009.

[Fran]

That's enough. But here's the thing. I would say it's enough time for them to all make up, but it's enough time for them to fight again.

[Ria]

Right.

[Fran]

You know what I mean? Like, right now they're good.

[Ria]

Right?

[Fran]

But who knows? Seeing with these people, these egos, this whole thing.

[Ria]

No, I know personalities. It's hard to keep up.

[Fran]

Like, they could fight again in two months.

[Ria]

I truly lost sleep over seeing this last night. Like, I was laying in bed and I thought, I can't believe no one told me to be there for this. Like, I was blaming other people. I was blaming people that it's not their fault to be. Like, they couldn't have given me a heads up about this because, my God, seeing Joe Jonas and Demi Lovato sing on the line in the year of our Lord 2026, and no one thought, we gotta give Fran a heads up on this one. Cynthia Erivo didn't know that was happening. Like, I didn't know that was even an option ever to be had. I was like, oh, you know, we went to MetLife. We got to see them do the camp rock stuff. But, like, Demi's old album stuff, they're not gonna pull back into that. Cause that's deep. That's Unchartered Waters.

[Fran]

Right? Right.

[Ria]

The Jonas Brothers helped make A lot of that first album, we're talking about

[Fran]

Paul Jonas having to have a sit down with Demi Lovato. You know, like, that was a touchy time.

[Ria]

We're going deep. And when I played that video and heard the opening, doo, doo doo doo doo, I went, you gotta be fucking kidding me.

[Fran]

It wasn't right. It was not right that there was no warning I.

[Ria]

The way I would have been on a plane to Orlando so fast.

[Fran]

And here we thought that we were potentially friends with Demi. That's no friend. A friend would have warned us.

[Ria]

Demi, just be like, someone let Ri and Fran know I'm singing on the line tonight.

[Fran]

Yeah. Like, please, for the love of God, they will not consider me a friend

[Ria]

unless I tell them no. I could. I really couldn't believe it. I. Gia had texted me and Claire, who we've been singing that song for since the day it came out. It's one of our favorites. And in the moment, I was like, no. I actually can't believe Demi's management, like, didn't text me. Okay, diva. I'm like, we follow each other on Instagram. Give me the fucking heads up.

[Fran]

Shit.

[Ria]

I was laughing. I mean, I was just happy to see Selene. I went, oh, my God, that's so sweet. Selena's there to support, giving her props for her vocals. And by the way, not to rehash this whole situation because I'm done talking about it, but I was thinking as I was watching clips from her tour that if Demi Lovato was stripped down, microphone, nothing else, and just sang her goddamn heart out, it would be the best thing ever created. Yeah.

[Fran]

By the way, that's all she needs.

[Ria]

Yeah. That is all she needs.

[Fran]

Raw talent.

[Ria]

She is such an incredible voice. And it made me think of, like, the Justin Bieber stuff, because I was just like, I would pay bajillion dollars to see her in a full acoustic. Nothing like just her, Demi and a mic.

[Fran]

Me too. Oh.

[Ria]

And how she would take down that shit, like, it would be unbelievable.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Ria]

But that girl loves to perform. We had the dancers, the outfits, the costumes, the whole thing. It was so much fun. I love seeing the clips and videos from it. I really hope that we can find a way to get to a show or something. I just. She. She's incredible. And I just warmed my heart.

[Fran]

I know.

[Ria]

See Selena there and see them hugging, and I just was like, that was really nice. And I feel like a lot of girls can relate to having that really intense, best friendship from their teenage years. And, you know, shit happens. You grow apart, you do all those things. But sometimes you just need one thing or one event that brings you back together and you look at each other and you go, all that stupid shit really doesn't matter now.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Ria]

Like we're at that age. We're happy, we're married, we're like living our best lives. Feel good right now. All that shit that happened when we were 18, 19, 20, like, let's let that shit go.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Ria]

So we all feel, we feel good right now.

[Fran]

And they could just support each other.

[Ria]

Exactly. And I feel like that's kind of what they did. Or that's how I imagine it going. I picture that happening. I picture that conversation, a long hug and they're like, they're committed to staying in touch. And hey, I'm doing a tour if

[Fran]

you want to come.

[Ria]

And she says, I'd love to. And she really does come and sit in the box and cheer her on. Yeah.

[Fran]

I'll need to see a picture of them in Sushi Park.

[Ria]

I know.

[Fran]

You know what I mean? Like, and dinner.

[Ria]

Yeah, yeah.

[Fran]

The whole thing.

[Ria]

And papped.

[Noah]

What is that, by the way? Sushi. Like why does everyone go there? I know, I know. But it's like, it's like a mall, isn't it?

[Ria]

Yeah, it's a restaurant from the laundry.

[Fran]

But like we passed it.

[Noah]

No, I know, but like, is it that good? Like, like it's a mall.

[Ria]

I, it's. I do think people love it.

[Noah]

It has to be good if it's. If these A listers are going.

[Ria]

And by the way, I don't not don't knock it because it's in a mall.

[Noah]

Something about though that like it makes it feel less.

[Ria]

Also think about how most. I feel like so many areas in LA especially are. Are like strip malls. Yeah.

[Fran]

And I feel like that sometimes has the most.

[Noah]

Sushi Park. Kind of sounds like like a fast food place.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Fran]

But they got fresh ass sushi.

[Noah]

Yeah.

[Ria]

And they love it.

[Fran]

I don't know. We've never, we've never, never gone. No.

[Ria]

I'm having an issue with sushi lately.

[Noah]

I had it last night.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Ria]

I'm not, I, you know, I'm. I don't. I don't even really want to talk about it that much.

[Fran]

Okay.

[Ria]

But it's been making my tummy hurt every time I eat it. I know.

[Fran]

You got to get the fries from Sushi Park.

[Ria]

I know. Even the place I go to in New York is so great. But it's not doing. It does not. And in the moment, so delicious. My issue with the Shake Shack burger on the Delta.

[Fran]

Here we go with that damn Shake Shack burger that always makes your stomach hurt. And I gotta tell you every time not to get it.

[Ria]

Yeah, but in the moment just tastes so damn good. That's the feeling I've been having with sushi. Anyway, it was. It was like lay awake and stare at the ceiling type of moment. And it was kind of late when this was all coming out and I was posting on my story. And then I started getting angry because, like, not enough people were applying, were replying or engaging with my story. I'm like, people aren't freaking out enough about this. Like, I was expecting my DMs to be like, holy shit, I can't believe it. And when I went to bed, I was like, not enough people are not enough people are freaking out about it.

[Fran]

I kind of had the same reaction. I was like, we. People aren't going crazy over this.

[Ria]

Like, I am and not that. And I couldn't really see the whole venue. And I'm not trying to judge really by any means, but just crowd reaction from watching. I watched like, 80 different point of views of this moment of Joe and Demi singing the song. And I'm looking at the crowd and, you know, people are singing. They have their. Their phones out. They're singing along, and I don't blame them. You want to cap. You want to capture that video. That's one that you do pull your phone out for. But I would have maybe collapsed to the ground. Like, I. The way I would have, like, probably would be looking like I'm having a episode in the crowd. Just purely from that. Lauren replied to my story and was like, you would have had a. Like, you would have gone into cardiac arrest.

[Fran]

Well, people aren't reacting big enough for Joe Jonas for my liking lately, just in general, so true swims here. It's like, are you kidding me?

[Ria]

Give the man the respect he deserves, really, because his and his voice only gets better and better. I'm thinking of such a good singer when. When Demi Lovato came out during the MetLife show for the Jones Brothers, I fell to the ground. This would have been another thing to hear on the line, ugh, God, this is gonna be a regret for life. I'm gonna be like, remember when I didn't go to Orlando even though I

[Fran]

didn't know, you didn't know. I didn't regret it if you didn't know.

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[Fran]

Moving on. Just a follow up. Katy Perry's team has put out a statement.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Fran]

That the Ruby Rose story is categorically false.

[Ria]

Yeah. I wonder what's really going to go down with this. I had expected Katy Perry to say something that's pretty swiftly on this, but her team is denying these allegations, vehemently denying her reptiles. Tmz. The allegations being circulated on social media by Ruby Rose about Katy Perry are not only categorically false, they are dangerous, reckless lies. Ms. Rose has a well documented history of making serious public allegations on social media against various individuals. Claims that have repeatedly been denied by those named. Yeah. Which is not. Not true, you know.

[Fran]

Right. This is a.

[Ria]

There has been times where there's been some crazy shit thrown around by her.

[Fran]

Right. This is a sticky situation because obviously you want to believe people and believe Ruby Rose because it was such an insane story.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Fran]

But also, also, if it's not true, then if you're Katy Perry and Katy Perry's team, you're like, excuse me. This is quite the outrageous lie.

[Noah]

She was never gonna do anything other than deny this.

[Ria]

No, of course, of course, of course. But I think there's a certain level of, like, there's a certain level of denial that you can pull off. Like, sometimes you get a. You get a. Sometimes you get a denial that's like, no, that's not true.

[Fran]

A quiet denial.

[Ria]

Yeah, it's a quiet denial. And you're like, ooh, suspicious. You know?

[Noah]

But she said she. They put the word vehemently in there, so.

[Ria]

Yeah, they did.

[Noah]

It's gotta be true.

[Ria]

Vehemently, deny. Yeah. Right. I gotta say, I never, like, ever look at the comments on tmz, but I just scrolled to the bottom of the article because I was trying to see the rest of it.

[Fran]

Please don't give us the comments from tmz, friend. Please.

[Ria]

Is a shame that the great American astronaut Katy Perry has been caught up in such a scandal.

[Fran]

Okay, well, that one's funny.

[Ria]

That's it. I wouldn't have read it. Something terrible. I wouldn't have read it.

[Fran]

Well, just a little follow up on that. Because.

[Ria]

Yes.

[Fran]

Got a follow up from.

[Ria]

Right. Because it's like, yeah, that happened. We mentioned that. What Ruby said, but we got it. That Katie's saying it's not true.

[Fran]

And then lastly, this man Chase, found the Mormon wives. Yeah. Was seen apparently kissing influencer Hallie Bachelder in Coachella. In Coachella. At Coachella. On the grounds. I just. I don't get it, man. This is one of those. It's not even like a big story or really anything. It's just one of those, like. I do not get it, man.

[Ria]

Yeah. I also loved that on Instagram. It was like, what did I. I sent it to you guys. But was it. What was it Page No. Or People or something. Trying to think of where I sent the. Like, I sent a link to the post. Oh, it was People. This really made me laugh because it was like a People magazine article that said Mormon wives. Chase. How do you say his last name? McWhorter.

[Fran]

Yeah, McWhorter.

[Ria]

He's got a whore in his name like that.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Ria]

Is that why they all make. I guess I don't even really think hoarder. McCorder. Why they make all those jokes? Makes out with Halle Bachelder at Coachella. And the caption said that they were getting hot and heavy at Coachella. A rep for Chase confirmed to people that he and Bachelder shared a kiss at the festival and hung out together multiple times throughout the weekend, which gave me a giggle because I'm like, oh, he had his. He had his rep personally confirmed that there was a. That there was a make out. The reps just Chase.

[Fran]

Yeah, the reps, him.

[Ria]

The rats just Chase being like, yeah, we did. Yeah. Hell yeah, I do kiss.

[Fran]

And.

[Ria]

Yeah. And they're commenting on all each other's stuff. She posted a bunch of pictures from. From Coachella. And he commented, ellie, I L y.

[Fran]

I feel like Halle is the type to just fuck around with this, though. Like, it's not like she's like, actually, oh, I'm going to date this Chase guy.

[Ria]

Ray. Sounds like they have some. They've already got some inside jokes.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Ria]

I mean, he commented, diet starts today.

[Fran]

It's just. He scares me.

[Ria]

Yeah. Look at them fucking wrapped around each other.

[Fran]

He scares me in the way that it seems like he is fondling with everybody. Walt. Well, yeah, you know, he is. He is kissing.

[Ria]

He's kissing. He's kissing. He's kissing. He's kissing, period. One thing I know about Chase, he's kissing.

[Fran]

Yeah. Yeah. I don't know if he's clean.

[Ria]

Well, he's kissing everybody.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Ria]

I don't.

[Fran]

Yeah, it's so.

[Ria]

It seems.

[Fran]

It's a lot.

[Ria]

If you are available for a kiss, he'll find you.

[Fran]

I don't even know if people. Howie had a hard frame, Was laughing at herself.

[Ria]

Well, I don't even know what that means. It came out of my mouth and I was like, what? What?

[Fran]

That's creepy.

[Ria]

But my God. I mean, be on the lookout if you're in Salt Lake City.

[Fran]

Yeah. Oh, yeah, for sure.

[Ria]

I'd be walking down the streets, you

[Fran]

see, Covering your mouth. Yeah. Stay away.

[Ria]

No kisses.

[Fran]

Yeah, no kisses for you.

[Ria]

No kisses. I don't know what that deal is. But he. And you know what? He knows how to find, like, the woman of the hour. He knows how to find the. Find the it girls. People. People are talking about. They follow their lives. They want to know what's going on. Everyone loves hearing Hallie's, like, dating stories and hookup stories and all these things. And Chase is like, yeah, I'm a b. I'm next.

[Fran]

Yeah. He's like, he actually wants to be included for sure. Him, Harry, Dowsey and Wes. They, like, they want to be included in people's lives.

[Ria]

They want to do the makeup, they want to do the makeout, and then they want to be in the TikTok about the makeout.

[Fran]

Yes. And, like, confirming in the, like. Yes.

[Ria]

That was for McWhorter. Confirms there was a smooch at Coachella.

[Fran]

Chase is on the phone with tmz.

[Ria]

We sure did. We sure did.

[Noah]

It's like in Spider man where he's, like, getting pictures of Spider man, but he is Spider Man.

[Ria]

Yes. Oh, exactly.

[Fran]

All right, that wraps up the topics. Okay, we're going to get into the Popcorner, but this is actually so fun. Truly just dropped their limited edition 24 ounce wild berry cans. And they're not just drinks. They are basically collectibles. Each can is designed around a different city. So it's very cute, unique, and also a little competitive. Like, you kind of want to find them all and collect them. And if you do collect the full set, you can enter to win an exclusive U.S. soccer merch, which is pretty cool. So you get exclusive U.S. soccer. You get these really cool cans. I got this Boston one in my hand. Fran and I played a little bit of trivia on on our chicks in the office page. You could watch that with the Truly cans. So it's really fun to collect them all. And obviously, you're still getting everything you love about Truly. The super light, super refreshing. Only 100 calories and one gram of sugar. So you keep the vibe going without feeling weighed down with Truly. So grab the truly 24 ounce wild berry collectible cans at your local store and see how many you could find. All right, let's get into the popcorn. We're taking your hot takes, your voicemails, your opinions. Let's get into it. Noah played that first track.

[Caller]

Hi, Ria, Fran, and Noah. This is Sandra from Pennsylvania. I just need to say that a really big flop for Euphoria. And don't get me wrong, there are many. But what I feel is arguably the biggest flop is a discontinued partnership with Labyrinth. I love han' Zimmer just as much as the next person. He has scored some very incredible shows. Euphoria is not that vibe. Labyrinth match essence of the show. It was like that music that really added to the experience. And when I think of Euphoria, I think of Labyrinth, and, you know, I think they're synonymous. But Hans Zimmerman score is really killing it. Now, don't get me wrong, I don't think that after watching the first episode this season is. I mean, it's going to be disappointing however, the music really, really didn't match the vibe and kind of let me down. And again, love the guy. So let me know your thoughts and love you guys so much.

[Ria]

Love you. Thank you. For a second, I thought. For a second I thought she was like, calling us out on something. Like when she was like, one of the biggest flops by you. And I was like, oh, no, it was gonna be about. About us.

[Fran]

Yeah, by you.

[Ria]

For you.

[Fran]

Dancing.

[Ria]

I. I went to look it up because I thought, I remember this coming out. They treated Labyrinth like. So they didn't want to do it.

[Noah]

He dropped a new song at 9pm when the new episode aired the other day.

[Fran]

That's the kind of petty shit I like to see on the interwebs.

[Ria]

Yep. So Labyrinth. The night before the HBO series third installment premiered, Labyrinth took to social media to further explain why his music won't be presented this time around. People comfortably lie in this industry and still call themselves honest people, he wrote in a since expired message to his Instagram story. So no cap. I decided to remove whatever music I had in it. I spoke to hbo. As far as I know, we are cool. He said, I left because last truth. When I work for someone, their vision is paramount to me. But I don't let people treat me like shit. Enus reached out to HBO and Sam Love is for a comment. Yeah. Sam Levinson fucking blows. Like, it's like, no. So no one has really a good thing to say besides, like, two people.

[Fran]

Yeah. No one's ever like, he's the best.

[Ria]

Yeah. And. And. And Labra's like, yeah, they treated me like shit. So I didn't want to do the show anymore. And their loss, I mean, Sam Levins has driven the show into the ground. His own show into the ground.

[Fran]

Yeah, he seems to do that often. But I will say, though, I'm totally with you. They were great. I'm actually having a flashback right now. I'm having a flashback. I wasn't gonna say it, but I'm having a flashback of when we had Sydney Sweeney on our show in Zoom.

[Ria]

Yeah, Covid.

[Fran]

Covid. She was talking about Labyrinth, and I thought she was talking about the David Bowie song. And I'm getting secondhand embarrassment mid conversation right now. But moving along.

[Noah]

It took you six years to come

[Fran]

forward and say that right now. But, like, two years ago, I realized it at the time. I remember I said it at the time. But now, you know when you, like, get shivers down your spine of, like, an embarrassing thing that you did that it's happening to me in this very moment, watching the episode, though, I didn't notice. And I also had no idea Hans Zimmer was doing the music. So, honestly, good get, but he is

[Ria]

certainly a good get. Hans Zimmer's the best of the best.

[Fran]

I didn't really notice the Muse, Ziggy.

[Noah]

Although I noticed Labyrinth not being.

[Fran]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Ria]

I will say you're very right in the fact that, like, they go hand in hand, you know, like, his music really made those first seasons. You think about those scenes and the music plays in your head with.

[Fran]

Well, now it's like, with the White Lotus coming back, and there's gonna be a different composer for that.

[Noah]

What's up with composers and these beefs?

[Fran]

Shit.

[Noah]

Everyone's in day. I came out at Coachella.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Ria]

With Labyrinth, I'd have to imagine that that can be, like, a sticky situation. It's like when you mix musicians with creatives, and, like, the director has a certain vision or the creator has a certain vision, but, like, a musician's like, nah, I'm gonna go with what? Like, I know music, you don't, you know? And then they butt heads.

[Fran]

Yeah, I could see that.

[Ria]

That's what I imagine.

[Fran]

Totally.

[Caller]

Hi, Riafran and Noah. This is Sarah from Boston. I have a question about the new series the City, with the trailer that got drafted. It's more of like, a. What's your opinion on this? I saw an interview with Carl that he was not asked to do the City, and I thought that was weird after not seeing him in the trailer at all. He mentioned maybe because they didn't want to have him being single on the show as a plot line. But I also think it's weird that Lindsay is technically single on the show. I thought the whole point of the show was to kind of take on. No offense to them, but, like, the older crowd of Summer House and see where they are in their careers in the City. And having Carl not there is weird, especially with him opening up Soft Bar and just kind of going on his whole journey throughout the show. Just kind of, like, leaving him in the dust kind of. I don't know. I thought it was weird, and I was very surprised by not seeing him in the trailer and just want to know your opinions. Thanks. Love you guys. Bye.

[Ria]

Love you. I would have loved to have seen Carl be involved in this, but I'm under the impression that in the City is like, a Lindsey Hubbard production. You know what I'm saying? Like, this is like, her friend. Yeah. Like, Lindsay's the centerpiece of this. Everyone's sort of an extension of Lindsay. Like, everybody knows Lindsay.

[Fran]

Right. And I feel like then you just can't have Carl be a part of that.

[Ria]

And yeah, she just doesn't want, I'm sure she doesn't want him to be. It's like, hey, I actually don't want my ex fiance to be on this show too. And if she was sort of spearheading a lot with this because it's like, yeah, then you have Kyle, Amanda, Amanda has her friend, but then you have Lindsay's friends. I think I, I do feel like there is a, a world where it's like Lindsay is at that center. And I think if anything, Lindsay probably pushed really, really hard for this show and was the most in charge when it came to like cast members being involved with what it was going to be and how they wanted to look. I'm sure she was like, I don't want Carl in it.

[Fran]

Yeah, I think, I honestly don't think it's anything deeper than.

[Ria]

Yeah, like, and, and I don't, I'm, I'm just. That could be totally false. And maybe everyone didn't want to Carl in it, but it's like a fresh start for everybody. The back and forth between Lindsay and Carl is something that we've seen so much on Summer House. And while, yes, we are getting that with Kyle and Amanda, they're starting the show still technically married.

[Fran]

Right.

[Ria]

So I feel like it's different than putting exes on already that are now single when we've already seen all that drama play out. And there's obviously much more to like juice out of that besides being like, oh, now they're sort of friendly when they see each other.

[Fran]

Yeah, I agree.

[Caller]

Hi guys. My name is Kate. I'm from Philly and I just want to weigh in on the Alex Cooper, Alex Earl situation. I think Alex Cooper is desperately trying to stay relevant and shift everyone's attention from her dumb ass show she put out because it's getting so much backlash because she has two offenders on the show, AKA Dakota and Huda. And her only relevancy right now is Alex Earl. Like, why else would she even post about it? She never posts about anything and she always prides herself on like not caring and just like never addressing anything because it's not worth it and she's a bigger person and blah, blah, blah. But now she doesn't want to address Huda and Dakota being on her stupid show and I think that's shitty of her. And I'm an Alex Earl. Stand till I die. But I want to know your guys opinion on this. I didn't watch the episode yet because I had to work unfortunately. But I'm about to weigh in. But I'm interested to see what Alex Earl comes out like and says back to her. So we'll see. But I just hate Alex Cooper, I think. But Bloody dies by Love you, Love you.

[Ria]

Are we all here?

[Fran]

Was kind of wild.

[Ria]

Yeah, yeah. This breakdown is crazy.

[Fran]

It was wild that there was no, no talk of the Dakota anything of the Unwell games. But then she makes a video about this. Like that is. That is pretty wrong.

[Ria]

That rubbed me the wrong way too. And I can see that that's like that thought popped in for a lot of people as well. It's like, oh, you can make a video about the Alex Rose stuff, but you can't say like, hey everyone, we've seen this stuff about Dakota. We've decided to proceed with the show or any, like address it in some way, but instead just went with doing nothing. And then this happens and you feel like you have to say something when another girl is coming at you. I don't know. It's just very interesting. And I think timing wise, that doesn't help Cooper's case because it's like people have already been worked up about the Unwell Game stuff and she actually said

[Noah]

in her video that Alex Earl was using this to distract people from her stuff.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Noah]

Where it's like she didn't acknowledge.

[Ria]

Right. Which is interesting because like, yeah, Alex Earl has had things pop up here or there. But current time right now, if you were like to take the pulse of everybody last week, they're all fallen on Earl's side than Cooper's right now. Because I feel like with that stuff, everyone, that people don't feel good about the Unwell Game stuff. So picking this time to post this video to Alex Earl is interesting because you're, you're not gonna get the fan backup that maybe you would have gotten if it was a different time. But yeah, it is a very interesting study on what happens to people in the media who have been at the tippy tippy top. And when you're so, so, so mega popular and then people turn on you. And right now Alex Earl is still in those beginning stages where everybody fucking loves her and she can do no wrong. And that's how everybody feels about it. And at a time, you know, I, I do feel like Alex Cooper had that where everybody was like, yes, boss bitch. Love it. Go, go, go. And now that narrative's kind of changed, which is. It's just interesting. It's like, why? Why is that really?

[Fran]

It goes in waves.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Fran]

You know, and I, I. But I will say I don't think. I don't think Alex Cooper is irrelevant. You know, Like, I don't think it's irrelevant at all.

[Ria]

Not even a little bit.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Ria]

So extremely relevant.

[Fran]

Yeah, I think so.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Fran]

All right, let's do one more.

[Ria]

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[Caller]

Hi, Rhian, Fran, this is Beth from Wisconsin. My hot take is just the discourse around the men that were supposed to be or that were on Taylor, Frankie Paul's season of the bachelorette. And them going on, obviously, Bachelor nation's podcast, Bachelor happy hour. And like, us getting to know them. Like, I have no desire to get to know any of the men. And I don't know, maybe that's just me, but maybe. And maybe one day they'll air the show. So they're wanting us to get to know them, but I have no desire to get to know them. Really don't care at all. So interested in your thoughts. Thanks. Bye.

[Fran]

I'm with you. I don't have any interest either. And I think but I think that this is their way of being. Like, nobody got to meet us. Obviously, the guys on the show are Gonna try to have people know them from the show.

[Noah]

Right.

[Ria]

I think they're just trying to throw these guys, throw these guys a bone.

[Fran]

Yeah. They thought that they were getting, you know, their little slice of fame, and they're not. So I think they're like, all right, let's see what you got and see if it sticks with anybody. But I don't think people are that interested.

[Ria]

Yeah, I'm. I'm with you on that. I do think, look, they've lost a lot of ad revenue, and there's one thing. It's like, hey, we. We're gonna lose the podcast ad revenue, too. Like, we're putting out some sort of season for the podcast. Let's talk to these guys. I know that it said that they are all eligible to be on, like, a season of Bachelor in Paradise, so that could be something, but I don't know what right now. Like, it just feels the future of the franchise in general is just so up in the air across the board. So that's what feels so iffy. But, yeah, if they say, like, hey, we're filming a Paradise season and you're going to. A lot of these guys can go on it, then, yeah, maybe people will be more interested. But no, I. I saw some rumors that these guys wanted to, like, sue ABC or, like, all these things. So I. It's. I'm sure it's some way of being like, hey, we're gonna try and put you guys out there and let people get to know you, and maybe this will help with whatever you want to do, or being on paradise, if that's an option down the line. But, yeah, it's unfortunate because it's like, no one really is gonna want to care that much because then it's like, also, we don't even know how far these people go.

[Fran]

Right. We're just, like, meeting random guys. It's almost like we're speed dating them.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Fran]

Yeah. And not interested.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Fran]

Yeah. All right, that wraps up today's popcorn. Or keep calling in with your hot takes, your voicemails and your opinions. That wraps up today's episode of Chicks in the Office. Thank you so much for watching and listening. We love you guys so very much, and we'll talk to you on Friday.

[Noah]

Yeah.

[Fran]

Chicks in the office.

[Noah]

Longtime listener, first time caller.

[Fran]

Look at the charts. Who does it. The best two chicks getting paid in reality checks.

[Ria]

You can find them at the gym.

[Fran]

It's not even a flex. Last minute red carpet.

[Ria]

Flew them out on the jet.

[Fran]

Yeah. They're who you want to be they're always on your screen. Two queens and they might be spilling royalty A lot of times that are popping here to get into I know

[Noah]

a show that you probably want to listen to.

[Fran]

Turn the heat up Turn the beat up Record the pod made a bag put their feet up the ones that leave no crumbs when they clean up

[Ria]

who's the pod that they all want to meet up? Who turned the heat up?

[Fran]

Turn the beat up Record the pod made a bag put their feet up the ones that leave no crumbs when they clean up who's the pod that

[Ria]

they all want to meet up?

[Fran]

Sam.