Amanda Batula & West Wilson Hookup Rumors + Mormon Wives Jessi Kisses Miranda’s Ex-Husband

Summary

Chicks in the Office (March 30, 2026)

Episode: Amanda Batula & West Wilson Hookup Rumors + Mormon Wives Jessi Kisses Miranda’s Ex-Husband

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Episode Overview

This episode of Chicks in the Office, hosted by Ria and Fran (with producer Noah), is packed with candid reactions and deep dives into two of the month’s biggest reality TV scandals: the explosive rumors regarding Amanda Batula and West Wilson’s alleged hookup from Summer House—and how it’s impacting their cast and friendships—and another round of viral drama from the Mormon Wives universe, this time involving Jessi reportedly kissing Miranda’s ex-husband, Chase. The team also shares weekend recaps, highlights new celebrity hookups, and runs through their weekly TV watch report.

The hosts meticulously break down rumor timelines, social media clues, potential fallout for reality TV dynamics, and speculate on what could come next—all while blending in their signature humor, relatable takes, and personal connections to the Bravo universe.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Weekend Catch-Up & Personal Updates

• The hosts share how they’re feeling, chat travel plans for their Boston live show, and swap fun stories about seeing Moulin Rouge! on Broadway with Megan Thee Stallion starring.
  • “When this theater exploded, I've never been to a Broadway experience like this before—it was so much fun.” (Ria, 06:00)
• A highlight was seeing the Duke vs UConn game, which left one of the hosts' husbands devastated after a buzzer-beater loss. This sets the mood for “messy, drama-filled” discussions ahead.

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2. Main Topic: Amanda Batula & West Wilson Hookup Rumors (Summer House)

[Begins ~12:39]

Timeline & How the Rumor Broke

• First reported by DeuxMoi in early March, initial reactions were disbelief: “No way Jose. Amanda wouldn’t do that to Sierra, West wouldn’t do that.” (Ria, 14:54)
• Despite the cast historically being “touchy,” social media activity shifted: Amanda and Sierra stopped interacting online, and cancelled a joint Amazon Live.
  • “All of a sudden, Sierra and Amanda…they’re not talking.” (Co-host, 15:08)
• Rumors swirl about Amanda and West being seen together, with stories of people spying through Amanda’s apartment window, though the hosts raise legal and plausibility issues with this detail.

Social Media Reactions & Cast Dynamics

• Other cast members are subtly reacting through selfies (Lindsay with Sierra), meme faces (Lindsay, Carl, KJ), and “likes” on relevant posts.
• Austin posted a pointed IG story: “Apparently pasta and fucking your friends exes is so back.” (Co-host, 18:40)
• The hosts repeatedly note how “messy” it is, especially considering Sierra’s well-documented ongoing feelings for West and the tight friendship between Amanda and Sierra.
  • “Girl code: your girl’s ex is immediately off the table.” (Co-host, 24:25)

Ethical Breakdown: Friendship & Reality TV

• The girls hash out the ethics, noting that Kyle and West’s friendship isn’t “deep” but Amanda and Sierra are real-life best friends—making this feel like a true betrayal.
  • “To me, Kyle and West, yeah, they're friends…But Amanda and Ciara…that seems like a real genuine friendship.” (Ria, 24:43)
• There's special emphasis on the difference between reality TV “storylines” versus real, raw emotion—Ciara is not the type “to do something just for a storyline.”

Rumor Validity & Theories

• Is it for publicity? The hosts reject this, arguing Ciara and Amanda would never play with emotions for engagement, unlike others on TV.
• The group notes the absence of flat denials by Amanda or West as the drama snowballs. West’s vague “word salad” answers make it worse.
  • “[His] answer on Watch What Happens Live was…a fucking bizarre answer. It was like, y'know, gotta show love to the streets, she's single…nothing you said is clear, actually.” (Co-host, 46:31)
• Comparisons are made to “Scandoval”, but the hosts agree the circumstances differ.

Fallout and Speculation

• Concern that the drama could end friendships and possibly disrupt future Summer House seasons if Sierra walks away.
• The hosts emphasize how invested the audience is—“it’s water cooler talk”—with even non-Bravo fans in their lives buzzing about the rumors.
• “If it is true, they weren't trying that hard to keep it under wraps…they were hiding in plain sight.” (Co-host, 48:44)
• Intense speculation about forthcoming statements and possible reunion revelations.

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3. Mormon Wives Drama: Jessi & Chase Kissing Scandal

[Begins ~36:31]

• Jessi (from Mormon Wives) is seen making out with Miranda’s ex, Chase. Miranda receives apology flowers and posts a video reacting ironically.
• The hosts don’t trust the authenticity of the drama—this cast has a history of “playing into the cameras” to secure renewed reality TV coverage.
  • “The Mormon wives do like to play into the…maybe we make a storyline to get these cameras back up.” (Co-host, 36:47)
• The speed at which apology notes, social videos, and rumors surface makes it all feel orchestrated—a calculated effort to “prove to the world that we need cameras up because our shit’s so messy and juicy.” (Ria, 38:10)
• “The girl code is just out the window with these damn shows.” (Co-host, 39:31)

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4. Other Pop Culture & Relationship News

[~57:54]

• Quick dive into Brooks Nader and Taron Egerton’s rumored relationship—described as “the most random pairing ever,” but giving Brooks props for being able to date anyone.
  • “Brooks could date quite literally anyone on planet earth…” (Ria, 59:06)
• Lighthearted recap of sports, weekend activities, and celebrity gossip serves as a palate cleanser before the weekly media rundown.

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• “It’s so messy. We really just did not think—my heart hurts for Ciara.” (Ria, 25:50)
• “The one thing you can't do is hook up with each other. LITERALLY the one thing you can't do!” (Ria, 27:07)
• “They're playing in her [Ciara’s] face, which is just so messed up.” (Co-host, 23:36)
• “Ciara is not someone who would play a joke on the public for her feelings.” (Co-host, 32:34)
• “This is the water cooler talk. We’re firing off texts to other people. And no one’s able to be like, I know for 100% fact this is true.” (Ria, 47:51)

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Timestamps for Major Segments

| Segment | Timestamp | | --- | --- | | Chit-chat, Weekend Recaps, Broadway & Sports | 03:17 – 11:37 | | Amanda & West Drama Deep Dive | 12:39 – 35:34 | | Mormon Wives: Jessi & Chase | 36:31 – 43:13 | | Gossip Recap & TV/Pop Culture News | 57:54 – 62:53 | | Weekly Watch Report: Survivor, Summer House, Paradise, etc. | 62:53 – End |

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Weekly Watch Report – Show Recaps & Grades

(Segment starts at 62:53)

• Survivor: Praised for strategy, especially “Rizzo” & Siree’s alliance. Loved the “double tribal.” (A-)
• Summer House: Kyle’s treatment of Amanda condemned—“way worse than what aired.” (B)
• Southern Charm Reunion: Not a great showing for Craig, but a “nice sentiment” from Andy about preserving real friendships. (B)
• Love Story: Fell off mid-season; criticism over how it fictionalizes tragedy. (D+ from Noah)
• DTF St. Louis: New show, “weird,” murder mystery, not obsessed but sticking with it. (B/B-)
• The Pit (Hospital Drama): Reliable, strong characters, “always an A- for me.” (Noah)
• Paradise: Highly engaging, “loved the musical choices,” thrilled for finale. (A for ep 7, B for latest ep)
• Something Very Bad Is Going to Happen: Creepy miniseries, compelling lead, promising so far. (B)

Extra notes:

• Grey’s Anatomy is still on (Owen and Teddy’s departure noted), Ria “can’t stop watching.” (C)
• Project Hail Mary: Visually stunning in IMAX, comparisons to The Martian, lighter tone. (B+)

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Flow & Tone

The podcast maintains its trademark mix of friendly banter, supportive back-and-forth, and sharp, honest reality TV commentary—balanced with empathy for real feelings at stake and the fun of unraveling complicated pop culture stories.

Memorable moments include comparing “Summer House” rumors to actual betrayals in friend groups, poking fun at the randomness of Hollywood hookups, and the team’s exasperated/empathetic sighs at the never-ending churn of reality TV scandals.

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Final Thoughts

• This episode is a must-listen for anyone following current Bravo drama or fascinated by how online gossip snowballs into seismic shifts in cast dynamics.
• The hosts do an exemplary job breaking down facts vs. speculation, social media clues, and ethics in friendships—while always rooting their commentary in personal observation and fan experience.
• The “Weekly Watch Report” provides a valuable checklist for current pop culture viewing, with honest (sometimes harsh) grading and plenty of recommendations.

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Bottom Line:
A chaotic but thoughtful ride through the biggest reality TV and pop culture drama of the week, delivered with a blend of insider savvy, personal stake, and genuine concern for the very real people behind the headlines.

Transcript

[Rhiann Fran]

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[Co-host (possibly Fran's co-host)]

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[Rhiann Fran]

I could use a little summary of the weekend of events, you know, just, we'll give it. But yeah, I feel like there's just so much going on.

[Co-host (possibly Fran's co-host)]

There is a ton going on. And my God, I was glued to my phone this weekend because the drama was pouring in. Everybody's got thoughts and opinions and we're trying to figure out what's happening. But before we get into all that, how are we feeling today, guys? It's Monday. We're headed to Boston for our Boston show. Last minute tickets are available, but it's almost sold out. So if you're thinking about coming last minute to Boston, get some tickets, bring your signs. And Ariel Kebbel is our special guest, which is so freaking cool. And we're so pumped about that. So how are we feeling? Great.

[Rhiann Fran]

I think that's going to be so much fun. Very excited for the Boston show. Other than that, I'm a little under the weather.

[Co-host (possibly Fran's co-host)]

That's a bummer.

[Rhiann Fran]

But just that time of year, we're traveling a lot. Seasons are changing. I've got a little bit of a chest cold. Just like, you know when you. When you. You cough and you just feel it like your whole chest hurts.

[Co-host (possibly Fran's co-host)]

That's.

[Rhiann Fran]

That's where I'm at right now. But I'm.

[Co-host (possibly Fran's co-host)]

I'm.

[Rhiann Fran]

I'll be fine. Powering through.

[Co-host (possibly Fran's co-host)]

Yeah, that's a major bummer.

[Noah]

Yeah.

[Co-host (possibly Fran's co-host)]

Noah, how are you feeling?

[Noah]

I'm good.

[Co-host (possibly Fran's co-host)]

Great.

[Noah]

Good. Yeah.

[Rhiann Fran]

Feeling like that your face is saying you have more to say.

[Co-host (possibly Fran's co-host)]

The words aren't.

[Rhiann Fran]

Get it off, King. The words aren't coming out of.

[Co-host (possibly Fran's co-host)]

Say what's on your chest.

[Noah]

I talked enough last episode for the next couple months, I think.

[Co-host (possibly Fran's co-host)]

Listen. People were loving storyteller Noah.

[Rhiann Fran]

Yeah. Because Noah loves to give a statement with a question. With a question mark inflection. Where you think there must be. Yeah. There must be more.

[Co-host (possibly Fran's co-host)]

No. Yeah, you.

[Noah]

You crossed. I know. Had a good weekend. Saw my last Tedescue show and then Trent had to bail on the one that we were going to because of the streaming and stuff. So we didn't go. We sold the tickets. And then of course, it was like they brought out all the stops for that show. They brought Sidney Lauper out again.

[Co-host (possibly Fran's co-host)]

At least you saw. At least you saw her the first time.

[Noah]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I was like, I should have been there. Three out of ten.

[Co-host (possibly Fran's co-host)]

I'm sure you had a great weekend regardless.

[Rhiann Fran]

Three out of ten. Yeah. Shows. Could have been four, could have been five.

[Noah]

Yeah. But.

[Co-host (possibly Fran's co-host)]

Yeah. Hey, you got enough in.

[Rhiann Fran]

I went to see was one of my best friends, did a little bachelorette day night out on Saturday. And we went to go see Moulin Rouge. And it was funny. Cause we've had these tickets purchased for a long time, so we didn't even really know the casting changes that were coming until they were announced whenever they were like, you know, month or so ago, I think, at this point. But Meg, thee stallion is starring in Moulin Rouge.

[Noah]

And I did a double take when I saw that.

[Rhiann Fran]

Yeah, it was. I have some videos I actually need to post them on my story. They. It was. It was so fun, but really, like, you're. You're still at Broadway. So they were down everybody's throats about having their phones out. And there were certain groups that were just really trying to film. And the guys keep coming over. Ladies, put your phone. Like, just, like, really trying to get them to put their phone down. We actually had one group come in, like, right in front of us. And they were cracking me up because they just didn't show up to the first half of the show. Like, they just weren't there for the first act. Must have been at brunch. Cause they came in with leftovers. Like, they had bags of food, sat down for the second half and were just hooping and hollering the whole way through. And then when it got to the end, they play a couple other songs, and then Meg does a couple of her songs.

[Co-host (possibly Fran's co-host)]

That's amazing.

[Rhiann Fran]

And when this theater exploded, I've never been to a Broadway experience like this before. It was so much fun.

[Co-host (possibly Fran's co-host)]

That's amazing.

[Rhiann Fran]

When people are dancing the aisles, everybody's screaming, Meg, thee stallion's like, what up, Broadway? Like, it's like. It was amazing. The woman that plays Satine right now, Chrissy Watts, is also. She also just started in that role, and she is a phenomenal singer. She's like a million Instagram followers. She's been in the music industry for a while. She's also just incredible guy that plays Christian. Incredible. Really so fun. And Meg brought something really fun to the show. Cause she's. It's like her. But a little bit of her vibe, her character into it. So it was a lot of fun. Really fun show to go to. I've actually never seen the show on Broadway. Seen the movie.

[Co-host (possibly Fran's co-host)]

Yeah.

[Rhiann Fran]

But I've never gone to see the show. And it's really just so much fun. You do just want to sing along the entire time. You kind of have to hold yourself back because that would be ridiculous.

[Co-host (possibly Fran's co-host)]

Yeah. Gotta be respectful to the audience.

[Rhiann Fran]

Yes. Yes. But the way that they take songs that we all know and love and are obviously very popular and fit perfectly into the show, it was a blast. So we had a ton of fun. Really. Like, couldn't recommend going to see especially, because now Meg thee stallion's in it. And I think we got lucky because we had bought the tickets before, so now I think they're. The prices have gone up. Yeah. Probably harder to get because of her being in it, but really, if you're thinking about going, you should go see it. Because it was so much fun, and she was so good. It was like. It was. It was really a fun. Really, like, fun casting something different and cool and. And I really liked it.

[Co-host (possibly Fran's co-host)]

That sounds like a blast.

[Rhiann Fran]

Yeah, it was great. It was great. Other than that, that was my big activity for the weekend because it was her. It was her, obviously, bachelorette, so I did not want to miss that, despite feeling a tad under the weather.

[Co-host (possibly Fran's co-host)]

Yeah, but you pushed through. You made it.

[Rhiann Fran]

Yep, exactly. Exactly. What. What about you?

[Co-host (possibly Fran's co-host)]

Fantastic weekend. Matt and I have been traveling so much lately that finally we were both home at the same time this weekend. So we just had a lot of fun, went to dinner, some rest in between. Honestly, Saturday night, we had a really fun night. We went to this restaurant in New York City that is called Golden Steer, and it's the first steakhouse in Vegas. And then they brought to New York City this past year, I think, in January. And it's like a 1950s Vegas vibe on the inside. Amazing food. Like, if you're looking for a place to go into New York City, Golden Steer, it's called. And it's just, like, a fantastic steakhouse. Really good steak and lobster, seafood. So delicious. So fun. The vibe is really cool. It's like carpet floors, but, like, red booths. It's. It was amazing, and it was so delicious. And honestly, I hadn't really heard of it until this weekend. We were asking around, you know, where to go, and we ended up getting this reservation so highly recommend if you are visiting New York City and you want, like, a cool dinner. So that was really fun. And then Sunday, it was Duke UConn, and my husband's heart was shattered, because in those final moments, UConn hit a three right at the buzzer. Duke lost, and he was devastated. He was devastated. The genuine shock in his voice.

[Noah]

The video that he posted is so funny, because you can hear you in the background, I think.

[Co-host (possibly Fran's co-host)]

I know. Yeah. I literally gasped as well. I was like, oh, genuine reaction for me as well. I couldn't. I couldn't believe. Couldn't believe what was happening, but it was. It was really a devastating loss. Although, congrats to our listeners who are big UConn fans, because we do have a lot of them. So I'm happy for you guys. But it was producer Sarah and our producer Sarah as well. And it was funny because Saturday night we were on FaceTime with a couple of friends that were rooting for St. John's and they were like, duke, better fudgeing win tomorrow. Because now, since we lost boss yeah, we're rooting for Duke, so you better not lose to Yukon. And, you know, Matt was going back and forth. He was like, no way. We got it. And I was like, I think that FaceTime was bad luck. I don't. I don't think that was good. So that was a huge bummer Sunday night.

[Noah]

But honestly, it is like, I kind of give Marty credit where, like, this happens to him seemingly every year. And then during the game, he still is always doubling down. Like, there's no way they're gonna.

[Co-host (possibly Fran's co-host)]

Well, that's just like his thing, you know? Like, people get on his case and they're like. But he, like, is laughing while he's tweeting, being like, meanwhile on the outside. What?

[Noah]

If I were him, I'd be like, I'm jinxing him.

[Co-host (possibly Fran's co-host)]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, it does happen every single year.

[Rhiann Fran]

Yeah.

[Co-host (possibly Fran's co-host)]

Very rare.

[Rhiann Fran]

Especially the fact that Duke had, like, a 20 point lead at that point. He was tweeting out like, we got. Like, it's a lock. Like, it's like, yeah, it's like you just. You. So you blow when you. When that happens. You blow a lead like that. Yeah, it was tough. Cause I was. I thought the same. I thought, like, the reverse was gonna happen to UConn. It was like, oh, they just did that to Michigan State. They had a huge lead, got close to the end, still was able to win. And I was like, ooh, how poetic. Their next game, Duke's got a big lead. They'll cut it close, and then Duke's still going to win. But I only got one.

[Noah]

One Final Four team in my bracket. Damn, you were doing so well up until Purdue loss. I was. I was great.

[Co-host (possibly Fran's co-host)]

Oh, God. Yeah. So that. That was devastating. But besides that, honestly, had a great weekend of, first of all, sleeping so much, catching up on sleep from the last week, and then just delicious food, good vibes, and ready for Boston, you know, I feel ready for the show. And I could not be more excited that Ariel is our guest because I feel like we just had so much left to be uncovered about all the behind the scenes of all the movies she's done. So you'll get a nice little sneak peek if you're coming to the show. But besides that, my goodness gracious, was I locked into my phone on Sunday because all of the. First of all, we go home from recording on Thursday and we're like, okay, you know what episode's done. We talked about more of the Mormon Wives drama. We got Noah's story out there. This is a fantastic episode. Open up our phone. What do we see? Jesse making out with Chase, Miranda's ex husband.

[Rhiann Fran]

Yeah.

[Co-host (possibly Fran's co-host)]

Then all of a sudden, the Sierra Amanda west drama unfolds. It's being reported that Amanda and Sierra aren't friends anymore. Amanda and Wes are hooking up. They're dating.

[Rhiann Fran]

Every.

[Co-host (possibly Fran's co-host)]

Everybody's coming out of the woodwork.

[Rhiann Fran]

There's 9 million stories. Everyone's like, my friend's cousin's coworker says this. Yeah.

[Co-host (possibly Fran's co-host)]

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[Rhiann Fran]

Allegedly, it was like beginning of March

[Co-host (possibly Fran's co-host)]

and everybody immediately was like, no way.

[Rhiann Fran]

No way, Jose.

[Co-host (possibly Fran's co-host)]

No way. That wouldn't be. That wouldn't be possible. You know, immediately everyone's like, amanda wouldn't do that to Sierra. West wouldn't do that.

[Rhiann Fran]

Everyone, like, they're, they're. They're friends. West is like one of those flirty guy friends you have, you know, and

[Co-host (possibly Fran's co-host)]

the summer house cast is so touchy and close and they're like, lay in bed together all the time. And that's what we watch on the show. So I think everyone was just like, oh, they're just friendly and close. Then I was getting a little bit more suspicious because people had picked up on the fact that Amanda and Ciara have not been interacting lately. We haven't seen each other, like in the post. Amanda had a couple articles come out. They. They're not interacting online. Then you fast forward to this week. Amanda and Sierra are supposed to do an Amazon live. Apparently they both, you know, rescheduled. They were supposed to do it together. They both said they're not doing it together. We also saw them do a first we feast that Ciara was not in, but Mia looked at west and said, you have a lot to be sorry for. And now people are like, was she looking at west and Amanda during that? Cause it kind of looked like it. So. So everything is a snowball effect, right? This starts coming out now. People are perked up. They're like, okay, wait, if Amanda and Ciara are not talking right now and it seems like they're not liking each other's post, could this crazy, insane rumor potentially be true? Then more comes out. You got the Bravo accounts. Everyone's posting everything they heard. There's this rumor going around that somebody got a picture of Amanda and West making out in Amanda's apartment through her window. Which, by the way, that feels illegal to have to be taking pictures of someone through their apartment.

[Rhiann Fran]

Lot of issues with that one. A lot of issues with that one. And there seemed to be a lot of holes in that story. Maybe, like, the general idea is there, but the details of that one felt pretty bizarre to me because it was also like, oh, and this person doesn't watch the show and doesn't know who they are. So I'm like, But they knew to take a picture through her window and

[Co-host (possibly Fran's co-host)]

said like, only because they wanted Sierra to know. But if you don't want the show and you want Sierra to know, how

[Rhiann Fran]

do you even know who these people are then? Right? Like, they were like, oh, they don't know who the. Like, they don't know who they. I don't know. It was a very confusing, really chain of events when it came to that one, I guess. What's the right word for it?

[Co-host (possibly Fran's co-host)]

Rumor.

[Rhiann Fran]

Rumor. But like, one Leg of this rumor.

[Co-host (possibly Fran's co-host)]

Right?

[Rhiann Fran]

Because, because like, it seemed that there's now five or six different legs to this thing that people are running around with. We saw this. We saw that. My friend, friend, friend, friend, friends saw this.

[Co-host (possibly Fran's co-host)]

Like, but I will say it's all adding up to be seeming like it's true because now you know, well, let's finish that leg.

[Rhiann Fran]

They apparently sold like, Sierra allegedly met up with this person.

[Co-host (possibly Fran's co-host)]

Right? So apparently Sierra met up with this person. They were shown the, you know, proof. Then she told Kyle. And that's like the rumor where we don't know the exact story of that. Right?

[Rhiann Fran]

Yeah, yeah.

[Co-host (possibly Fran's co-host)]

But now when you see the actual cast kind of, you know, putting a little hint here and there, Kyle responded to somebody on threads where they were like, I think the funniest part about this whole thing is that everyone's worried about Sierra's feelings and no one cares about Kyle. And Kyle responded with like a hand up emoji and a crying face. Then Lindsay posted a picture with Sierra with no words, just a selfie with Sierra. Sierra reposted that. Everyone's been pretty quiet. Then Lindsay posted like a meme face of. Of her reaction herself.

[Rhiann Fran]

A face of disgust.

[Co-host (possibly Fran's co-host)]

A face of disgust. Then Carl posted a picture of himself with a face of disgust. Then KJ did the same thing with his face down. Then Austin pops on and he writes pasta. Apparently pasta and fucking your friends exes is so back. He posts that on his story. And there's been a lot of likes by the cast. Kyle has liked posts of Ciara liking, you know, quotes that maybe have something to do with this Austin, Sally. They've liked pictures of people posting about what's going on. And then on top of all that, people are digging back from like the past month or so of west commenting on Sierra's stuff, liking Sierra's pictures. Like the, the if this is happening, which it seems like they are all hinting that this is.

[Rhiann Fran]

Is true.

[Co-host (possibly Fran's co-host)]

It is so insane. And mind you, like the part of Kyle, it is kind of. It's not funny, but it's kind of funny that like, if you take Ciara out of the situation, if west and Ciara were never a thing, and it just so happened that Amanda like started dating one of Kyle's friends in the house, people would be like, ah, fuck it. Kyle was so bad to Amanda. Like, go for it. Like they were. People were actively rooting for Amanda to be with Ben at the end of the season because of Kyle's actions. Yeah. So I don't, I think it would be like, people would be like, what the fudge? But I don't think it would be as bad. Yeah, her doing this to her, one of her best friends, Ciara, who dated west is so bad and so messy on so many different levels. Especially with how open Ciara has been about still like feeling a type of way about West. Like it's not, it's not like Ciara like had a relationship with west and now was like, oh yeah, I don't give a fuck about him. Like, who cares? Whatever. She could not be more open about her feelings about west for the past three seasons. Like we just watched an episode of how open she is about how much this has affect her about the backlash she gets. It couldn't be more clear how she feels about West. So like it is just, whew, it's bad.

[Rhiann Fran]

It's really, really messy. And here's the thing, like there's so many elements to the story of. Okay. You know, people find solace in these situations and I don't, I don't. You know, Amanda's hasn't been single in a really long time and west is like a, is like a comfort. And all these things of people saying, oh, this, that. The other thing where I struggle is anytime you then get online or do interviews where you're just lying like that to me is the craziest part of all this. It's one thing to be dodgy because people went back, they watched Wes answer on Watch It Happens live when he was asked about these rumors and it was a bit of like a word salad situation where he sort of just like kept talking. But nowhere in it was there like a we have never hooked up. It was sort of, you know, oh, she's single and we're a dear friend and all these things, it's like, okay, all those things can be true, but still sort of, I guess not touching on the meat of that which is have they hooked up or have they not or is it going on? Is it not as a one time thing, is it not? Amanda did an interview, she was on Jason Tarkyk's podcast and she was like, I will not be going near any of my castmates. Crazy thing to say in that situation too. And like, although I'm not quite sure when exactly she recorded that interview. But now people are like, this could have been going on for a month. The timeline is very up in the air. That's what we really. I feel like there's a lot of different timelines going on because now people are really Reaching and finding. They're like, look at this picture of this hat that Amanda's wearing that west also has the hat. And like it goes back.

[Co-host (possibly Fran's co-host)]

Yeah.

[Rhiann Fran]

A lot to like a long time ago. It feels like maybe a little bit

[Co-host (possibly Fran's co-host)]

of a stretch wearing his sweatshirts as well.

[Rhiann Fran]

Yeah.

[Co-host (possibly Fran's co-host)]

Now like she has responded to people online who have been like, west is just a comfort person for her.

[Rhiann Fran]

Yeah.

[Co-host (possibly Fran's co-host)]

I wanted to talk about comfort Bessie and she wrote back, thank you. And so it's like actively kind of, kind of denying, but not really. Like there's so many levels to this because I feel like for them to both be playing in Ciara's face like this, like, like seeing Wes comment on Ciara's pictures from two weeks ago.

[Rhiann Fran]

Yeah.

[Co-host (possibly Fran's co-host)]

It's like you're actively playing around in her face, which is just so messed up. If there was something that happened behind the scenes. Right. Which we don't know yet because nobody has said anything. But I don't think that this is the case that if they went to Ciara before anything and they were like, listen, we really have feelings for each other. Da da da. Does not seem like that was the case. It seems like this has all been done shadily behind her back from what we're gathering from what everyone's putting out there. And listen, there is a whole other Kyle part of it, but like I said, I feel like it would actually be so much more, less of a thing if it was just the Kyle aspect.

[Rhiann Fran]

Yeah.

[Co-host (possibly Fran's co-host)]

The Sierra aspect to me just adds a whole other layer. Layer. Because like girl, girls, girl code, like girls, girls, bestie girls should not be doing that to each other.

[Rhiann Fran]

I think like your girl is immediately off the table.

[Co-host (possibly Fran's co-host)]

Yeah. Like your girl's ex is just off the table immediately. Like as soon as the first time they like that's off the table. So.

[Rhiann Fran]

And Sierra and Amanda have always seemed like real life, legitimate friends. Yes, real life, legitimate best friends.

[Co-host (possibly Fran's co-host)]

Yeah.

[Rhiann Fran]

To me, Kyle and West. Yeah, they're friends.

[Co-host (possibly Fran's co-host)]

More like just for the summer they're friends.

[Rhiann Fran]

But like, you know, I, I don't feel like when they're not filming, Kyle and West are really having a lot of conversations.

[Co-host (possibly Fran's co-host)]

Right. It seemed like Amanda and Ciara.

[Rhiann Fran]

Yeah, that seems like a real genuine friendship.

[Co-host (possibly Fran's co-host)]

Yes. And so I feel like there's different layers to that because it's like that seemed to be like one of her real life best friends where. Because it is kind of like a blurred line with reality TV where you're like, are these people really friends with each other? Are they just friends with the show, summer house, they're together like six weekends of the year. Do they hang out outside the show? With this, Amanda and Sierra really did seem very, very close. And then on top of that, Sierra, like has been so supportive of Amanda and trying to like, get her out of a bad relationship with Kyle and like always being there for her for her to venture and be an ear to talk to during the season. And everyone's had to deal with Amanda and Kyle's relationship and like be a fly on the wall for all that and show support. So. Man, is this frickin messy.

[Rhiann Fran]

It's so messy. We really just did not think, like,

[Co-host (possibly Fran's co-host)]

my heart hurts for Ciara because she could not have been more open to both west and Amanda and everybody in the house and every viewer. We've all seen it, how open she's been about her feelings about West.

[Rhiann Fran]

Like it's.

[Co-host (possibly Fran's co-host)]

It could not be more clear.

[Rhiann Fran]

I actually feel like. I feel like an old. An older sister to these people that are like my age where I just want to shake them and be like, what are you doing? You could have had it all. You could have had it all. Like everything was set up for you guys right now. Everything was going well. Yet a good season. You get away from Kyle. West seems to be making kind of ish, good ish decisions, having good ish conversations with Sierra. Amanda gets away from Kyle. They finally get like, they finally split up. She can have this single girl era. Everyone's behind her, supporting her. They want to see her flourish and go and do all these things and take all these opportunities and you're just like, literally the one thing you can't do is hook up with each other. Yeah, Literally the one thing you can't do is hook up with each other.

[Co-host (possibly Fran's co-host)]

Even the thing is, even if Amanda hooked up with Ben, people would be like, yes. That's what the crazy part.

[Rhiann Fran]

Oh my God. If it was Ben, they were like, holy shit. This could have been true love. This could have been. Was like a sign from God. Literally.

[Co-host (possibly Fran's co-host)]

They would have been like, oh my God. Ben was literally brought down by the holy spirit for Amanda. Like, that's what it was. Just like, do not hook up with your best friend's ex boyfriend.

[Rhiann Fran]

I just like, I know, I know.

[Co-host (possibly Fran's co-host)]

Oh my God.

[Rhiann Fran]

What's so crazy? I just cannot see a path. Like I don't know what happens next. Like sometimes you can sort of have a feel like some sort of prediction or thought of like, what's gonna happen next? I have no clue. And anything that happens is gonna Be a surprise because now there's rumors that, like, they're gonna put out a statement or like all these things are there preparing for the reunion. There's so many different rumors flying around of how this is all gonna play out. They have not filmed this reunion reunion yet. I'm googling, like, when did they film the Season 9 reunion? Seeing if it's gonna link up to around the same time they filmed the season nine reunion, like, towards the end of April of last year. Would it be around the similar time? Are they gonna wait weeks and weeks? I'm confused because they can't wait till the reunion to have this come out.

[Co-host (possibly Fran's co-host)]

It also, to me does not seem like. It doesn't seem like west is somebody who's ready to settle down either.

[Noah]

You know what I mean?

[Co-host (possibly Fran's co-host)]

Like, if they, like, I feel like it's been.

[Rhiann Fran]

I don't think really Amanda is right now.

[Co-host (possibly Fran's co-host)]

No, but I'm just saying, like, if they come out and they're like, listen, we're in love and we're like, dangerous.

[Rhiann Fran]

They go balls to the wall, work together and like.

[Co-host (possibly Fran's co-host)]

But I don't know how we're supposed to believe because Wes, I feel like, is just so, like, openly a fuckboy. Like, I don't know, just from, like, what we see online. I don't know, man. Like, I feel like they got to say something soon because it is just the both of them have been dead silent and they are both people who post often. So, like, I don't think that they continue. Can continue to be silent, not say anything. Like, they're going to have to address it. I think this week, like, I think it's going to have to be addressed

[Rhiann Fran]

this week on conspiracies are also, like,

[Co-host (possibly Fran's co-host)]

on top of that, it seems like west and Sierra hook up during this season at some point. Like, it seems like from the coming attractions that there is some sort of something that happens between west and Sierra. So, like, you add that as well. I mean, it's already bad, but, like, you're also like, west bouncing back between Sierra and Amanda. Like, and then people are now. Now we're doing the whole, you know, the Scandival, whatever they're gonna call this comparison. Listen, Scandival to me, like, Ariana and Tom were still together, living in a house together, like, fully still dating. And Raquel and Tom, like, straight up cheating. Like, this is. This is very bad and fucked up to do to your friends. That was like. Yeah, but they are. Yeah. As far as we. Who. Who knows how deep this goes?

[Rhiann Fran]

I don't know anymore.

[Co-host (possibly Fran's co-host)]

There's now, like, the comparisons to, like, Remember when Raquel was talking to Ariana. Ariana about her sex life?

[Rhiann Fran]

Yeah.

[Co-host (possibly Fran's co-host)]

Then this season you have Wes asking Kyle about their sex life.

[Rhiann Fran]

Right.

[Co-host (possibly Fran's co-host)]

So everyone's like, wait a second. This is a weird parallel. Like, you had. You had Raquel asking Ariana about their sex life. Now you have Wes asking as a Kyle about their sex life.

[Rhiann Fran]

I'm very much living in the world and that this was not a thing over the summer.

[Co-host (possibly Fran's co-host)]

Yeah.

[Rhiann Fran]

I cannot enter that. Like, I'm not ready to think about that. And I don't think that's the case. I don't think that Amanda and Kyle were, like, secret. I don't think Amanda and Wes were secretly, like.

[Co-host (possibly Fran's co-host)]

Yeah, I don't think so either.

[Rhiann Fran]

Had something going on.

[Co-host (possibly Fran's co-host)]

No, I don't think so either. I think it probably started more recently. But it's not good that people can make these parallels. You know what I'm saying? Like, there's. Because this house is so close, and we see it summer after summer. Now everyone's, like, looking into this season, being like, wait, was there something happening during this? Yeah, I don't think so. But, yeah, I don't know. It ain't good that people can make the comparisons.

[Rhiann Fran]

No, no, no. And like I said, there's been, like, there's been some. There's been some conspiracies run around. People are like, this whole thing is fake to build up. To build up interest for the show.

[Co-host (possibly Fran's co-host)]

There's literally no way things.

[Rhiann Fran]

And look, I am normally not into that idea, to be honest. I'm into it a little bit for Mormon Wives. We'll talk about that. Like, that crossed my mind immediately, to be honest. That was my first thought when the other drama came out, but there was. I was trying to find it. But of course I like you. You know, it just feels like everybody's really on threads a lot more these days.

[Co-host (possibly Fran's co-host)]

Yeah. And I don't have it downloaded, but I keep seeing it on my Instagram. I'm like, do I have to download this? I feel like I'm missing out on something.

[Rhiann Fran]

Yeah, I know. Oh, this is what Danny Pellegrino had posted on threads that a lot of people are thinking of. I don't believe the Summer House love triangle drama. And my hot take is that they aren't denying it yet publicly because it helps the show and also substantially boosts engagement on all the branded posts they've been doing today because they had, like, multiple ads to. To put out.

[Co-host (possibly Fran's co-host)]

I don't believe that at all. Because I do not think Ciara is somebody that will play like a. A joke on the public for her feelings. Like, I. I don't believe that at all. Yeah, I don't think that she would be into this. Like, that does not seem like something Ciara would do to me.

[Rhiann Fran]

Yeah, yeah, I know. And I also feel like. I don't know, I. Just. The way that Amanda and West are normally pretty, like, maybe West a little bit more. I just think if it wasn't. If there wasn't some truth to it, you're denying it everywhere, publicly, like, all the time. Like, you're getting online immediately.

[Co-host (possibly Fran's co-host)]

The fact that it's gotten this big and they haven't posted a single Instagram story being like, guys, this is crazy. True. Immediately, I think if it's gotten this large like before, like last week when it wasn't as big, I could see them being like, let's just ignore this. Like, this is silly. But now that it has gotten to this mountain.

[Rhiann Fran]

Yeah. The rest of the cat, like Lindsay,

[Co-host (possibly Fran's co-host)]

everyone making a parade.

[Rhiann Fran]

And Sierra's always been pretty. Like, Sierra, to me, is somebody that's on reality TV but does not subscribe to that reality TV way of life, of. Of embellishing things or working things up. Like, I. She said it. She said, you know, I'll never really. I'll never do something for like a storyline. Like, it's. That's not the way I live my life. And like, her personal decisions, granted, this is now, like, happening to her, so it's a little different. But. Yeah, I don't know. I don't know. I. Their every single move they make is going to be watched under the largest microscope of all time right now.

[Co-host (possibly Fran's co-host)]

So apparently they were just seen in la.

[Rhiann Fran]

Yeah. Like. Like, yeah, they. Yeah. Dumas said they were spotted in LA together out. So. I don't know.

[Co-host (possibly Fran's co-host)]

It's so wild. It is so wild. But I, I suspect we'll hear something from them this week because I. I don't think. I don't think they can keep ignoring it. Like, I think they're gonna have to say something. Or even if it's just like, hey, guys, wait until the reunion and we'll address everything. Like, even if it's just something to that extent, maybe it won't know.

[Rhiann Fran]

I think that makes it even worse.

[Co-host (possibly Fran's co-host)]

Well, they can't. Being. Being silent.

[Rhiann Fran]

Yeah.

[Co-host (possibly Fran's co-host)]

Ain't gonna work.

[Rhiann Fran]

Yeah.

[Co-host (possibly Fran's co-host)]

Because the only thing they're gonna get blown up with now is that.

[Rhiann Fran]

Right.

[Co-host (possibly Fran's co-host)]

Regardless if they post or not post. At this point, like, I don't even know what is the path forward for the show. Like, do they go into the house and film another season? Like, I can't see a world where Ciara is gonna be like, yeah, I want to be in a house with these two.

[Rhiann Fran]

No, this could be the end for if this is all true. I could see Sarah. Imagine not coming back.

[Co-host (possibly Fran's co-host)]

Imagine the show going up in flames the same way Vanderpump did. Like, I can't. Like, it is.

[Rhiann Fran]

It really is crazy, wild, wild stuff.

[Co-host (possibly Fran's co-host)]

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[Rhiann Fran]

Yeah.

[Co-host (possibly Fran's co-host)]

This gets posted, and then immediately we get Miranda posting on her story, flowers from Jesse apologizing, like a note from Jesse being like, I'm so, so sorry. Then Miranda makes a video.

[Rhiann Fran]

Yeah.

[Co-host (possibly Fran's co-host)]

Being like, just basically being like, when your friends are just like, everyone needs to hug up with your ex. Everyone's taking a ride on my ex, basically. This one is particularly like, eyebrow raise, because unlike Summer House, the Mormon wives do like to play into the. Yeah, hey, maybe we make a storyline to get these cameras back up.

[Rhiann Fran]

Yeah. This one look to this level, I was like, this shit is so unbelievable to me. And whatever. It could happen, my God, Chase hooks up with everybody. But, like, it's so crazy.

[Co-host (possibly Fran's co-host)]

Chase is the only man in Utah.

[Rhiann Fran]

I know. But, like, the way that they make videos and everything gets turned into some sort of content in some way just raises the eyebrow to me because the rumors about the show are so up in the air, and it's like, will they come back? Will they not. Is the show over? Is it not? Will they be able to keep building? That's where my. Less. Less with the summer house stuff. Because that feels. Cause it's not like they're. It's not like everybody starts posting and Amanda sending Sierra apology flowers and Sarah's posting a picture of it. Like it's. You know what I'm saying? Like this when everybody.

[Co-host (possibly Fran's co-host)]

Utah women, they move different.

[Rhiann Fran]

They do. And I know that this is their MO and they've always done this of sharing their lives and all these things, but the cameras not being up right now and all this happening to me is like, hey, let's prove to the world that we need cameras up because our shit's so messy and juicy, regardless of if Taylor, Frankie, Paul is a part of it or not. So let's get those cameras back up. And everyone in the comments is saying it. Get the cameras back up. We need to know what's going on. We need to be filming. It's like, all right. I don't know. And it's. The whole setup of it all is so crazy. Jesse's like, right away back to filming her. Like, she's just posting about her.

[Co-host (possibly Fran's co-host)]

Her.

[Rhiann Fran]

Her business, and she's at some sort of summit. She's doing some talks. Like, it's like they're all back to business. But at the same time, you know, Miranda fires off a couple videos, and the girls are all in the comments, and they're like, it's so messy. Chase is making videos. Joe, like, joking about it, and you're just like, okay, I don't know, guys.

[Co-host (possibly Fran's co-host)]

I do believe that this happened.

[Rhiann Fran]

Yeah.

[Co-host (possibly Fran's co-host)]

But I think when things happen, do

[Rhiann Fran]

you think they do it first? Do you think do shift for the plot?

[Co-host (possibly Fran's co-host)]

I think that they, like, get a little bit giddy about something happening. Right. Like, it's bad. It's 100. Like, once again, hooking up with your friend's ex.

[Rhiann Fran]

Yeah.

[Co-host (possibly Fran's co-host)]

Bad.

[Rhiann Fran]

Yeah.

[Co-host (possibly Fran's co-host)]

Like, the girl code is just out the window with these damn shows.

[Rhiann Fran]

It really is.

[Co-host (possibly Fran's co-host)]

But I think that part of them is like, ooh, now we. Now we got a little something. Like, they're. Oh. Which is the opposite of how I feel with, like, Sierra and Amanda. Like, I don't think that they're thrilled that this is like, there's no way. There's a part of Ciara that's like, oh, yeah, we have something good for reality tv. Yeah. She's not live her life like that. For them, the Mormon wives are like, oh, we got another season. Right. So it is. But it's still. It's still obviously extremely messy and bad. And honestly, like, it was so funny because when we were recording on Thursday, we were like, Jesse just is like. She just seems like such a great person. And then we go home, we see this. I'm like, what?

[Rhiann Fran]

I'm like, we were just raving about

[Co-host (possibly Fran's co-host)]

her on the podcast, and now she's

[Rhiann Fran]

going and hooking up with Miranda's ex husband.

[Co-host (possibly Fran's co-host)]

And then on top of that, people are now looking back to the Call Her Daddy interview where Jesse, like, goes out of her way to mention Chase randomly. So everyone's like, that's suspicious. That's weird. Why is she randomly mentioning Chase? Then there was a clip from this past season of Mormon Wives where Jordan was talking about him and the dad talk. They all have each other's location. And Jesse was like. Like, it's. People are, like, trying to figure out, does she say, like, Jace or, like, Chase, right? Because people are like, is she asking if Jordan has Chase's location? Like, it's all. They're all so connected, and they're acting like Chase is the only man in Utah. And everyone's, like, wanting to make out with him. I don't know. It's freaking wild.

[Rhiann Fran]

There's so much drama with this whole cast. And even. Even, like, now other people are getting in the mix of it. Like, there's a lot of stuff going on with Dakota right now that I can't even begin to put my time into. Like, I've seen the posts and. And my brain. I'm like, I cannot dedicate any more brain space to this whole situation, especially Dakota. I just really have. I don't care what that guy is doing. I don't want to see it or hear it anymore. Truly.

[Co-host (possibly Fran's co-host)]

Like, I'm in agreement with you.

[Rhiann Fran]

So he. He discussed it. Like, it's like the. The. With Indie Blue and the Shin. She's a big influencer in Utah. And I'm like, who are these people? What is going on? I can't keep up. There's always something. Can Chase go move somewhere else?

[Co-host (possibly Fran's co-host)]

I don't like, if you move somewhere else in the. That whole. All the women in that state are gonna be after him.

[Rhiann Fran]

I mean, my God, what are they?

[Co-host (possibly Fran's co-host)]

I don't know what they see in these guys, by the way, which is just like.

[Rhiann Fran]

I know. It's just like, the timing of it all just was so crazy to me. It's like, oh, the Dumas post comes out, and 30 minutes later, Miranda's posting an apology note from Jesse on her story.

[Co-host (possibly Fran's co-host)]

It was weird timing, the whole thing.

[Rhiann Fran]

I don't. Crazy, you know, because normally it's like. Which makes me think almost Dumoise in on it a little bit. Because if there's other things that Dumoise sitting on or if it's. Or if she's really catching them all by surprise with the post. I don't know if the apology card and the flowers is ready to go right away. It's almost like, hey, maybe Dumas. They had sort of heard that Dumas got a hold of it and that was. They were gonna share it and post it or whatever. And she was able to preemptively send the flowers. I don't know. I don't know.

[Co-host (possibly Fran's co-host)]

I don't know, man.

[Rhiann Fran]

I don't know. But once again, they are proving to everybody that it's like, hey, they've been churning out two seasons of reality TV a year for a reason now. Because the drama never stops. And everyone's yelling at them to start filming again. And when the fate of the show seems to be sort of up in the air, things like this are certainly gonna help their argument of why they should be filming.

[Co-host (possibly Fran's co-host)]

They're like, Jesse's like, well, I'll just make alchase. And then, you know, who knows, man? This weekend of reality TV drama has been off the charts and crazy. At least we got an answer about Jesse and Chase. I'm sorry. I'm going back to Amanda and Wes for a second. Like, they gotta say, every time I took a nap this weekend, I was expecting to pick up my phone and see a statement from them. Cause every time I picked up my phone, I had a text from a friend asking about what's going on. And every time I was like, I know, man. I'm waiting for the statement just as much as you guys are, because.

[Rhiann Fran]

Wow. I know. It's also something where it's like when it reaches this level of drama and this level of like, holy shit. The. You, like, move past the jokes with, like, you can't. You're like, ooh, I can't just, like, text them. You know what I'm saying? Like, we've gone past the point of texting west and being like, dude, what's up? You know? And why would he tell us at this point? You know, why would he tell us? But it. The whole, like, the timing of it all is just so crazy, cuz. Yes. Like, we were with Carl and Jesse in Dallas on Wednesday night, and then this all starts to, like, come out and we're. First off, we're like, I don't know. I don't know. Like, we've been hearing the rumors for weeks, and I was so firmly in the camp of, like, there's no fucking way. Like, we were like, we're not even gonna. We're not even gonna give this rumor a second of air time because we think it's so ridiculous sort of situation. And we're haha, jokey, jokey, everything's good. And then, you know, this. All this shit comes out and you're

[Noah]

like, ooh,

[Rhiann Fran]

now you. You can't really go back to the haha, jokey, jokey. Because it feels like now we're the haha idiots who thought it wasn't true. And now it seems like it is true. Yeah.

[Co-host (possibly Fran's co-host)]

I feel pretty bamboozled because. I don't know, we've been joking around a lot with these people lately just because we've been, like, with them, you know?

[Rhiann Fran]

Yeah.

[Co-host (possibly Fran's co-host)]

And not by Carl and Jesse. No, not. Not Carl and Jesse. No. But it's just so. It's like, whoa, this is so meta. Because we were, like, with them and then we landed the day after, and Fran and I looked each other and we were like, wait a second. This rumor is really picking up steam.

[Rhiann Fran]

Yeah.

[Co-host (possibly Fran's co-host)]

We were just with some of the cast last night. Like, it feels weird to, like, you know, and we had talked to Wes a lot over the past couple weeks in like, a group chat.

[Rhiann Fran]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I'm like, this guy's just been complimenting his dancing.

[Co-host (possibly Fran's co-host)]

Yeah. I'm like, oh, my God. Like, I feel.

[Rhiann Fran]

Going back and forth.

[Co-host (possibly Fran's co-host)]

I feel bamboozled. That, like, you know, something. Something right under our noses. So, yeah, this shit is crazy. And I don't know, if they don't say something this week, I'm gonna be completely shocked because I feel like it's just like everyone is waiting.

[Rhiann Fran]

Yeah.

[Co-host (possibly Fran's co-host)]

You know?

[Rhiann Fran]

Yeah.

[Co-host (possibly Fran's co-host)]

What's Andy gonna say? What's Andy gonna say about this?

[Rhiann Fran]

God, I don't know.

[Co-host (possibly Fran's co-host)]

Wes's answer on Watch what Happens Live was. And we did joke at our live show in Dallas. We were like, what a terrible answer by Wes. Like, you couldn't just be like, no, we're friends. We didn't hook up.

[Rhiann Fran]

Yeah.

[Co-host (possibly Fran's co-host)]

And that should have been our suspicion right there, that he did not straight up deny it. Like, he was like a fucking bizarre answer. It was like, you know, got a show with the streets, she's single.

[Rhiann Fran]

Yeah.

[Co-host (possibly Fran's co-host)]

That's a. I hope that's clear. She's a good friend. I'm like, nothing you said is Clear, actually.

[Rhiann Fran]

At all. Right.

[Co-host (possibly Fran's co-host)]

Everything you've said right there is a little suspicious. So.

[Rhiann Fran]

And it really does seem like no one has besides them, you know, really seems like no one has the cold hard facts besides the people that are like directly involved because there had every. This is like the hot gossip on the street. This is, this is the water cooler talk. Oh, it is where everyone's. You wanted, like text every. Like you said, all of our friends are texting us. We're texting our friends. We're firing off texts to other people. We also want to know what everyone else is saying. And no one has been able to be like, I know for 100% fact this is true.

[Co-host (possibly Fran's co-host)]

Yeah.

[Rhiann Fran]

You know what I'm saying? But is that I'm very. It's too much. Like when there's smoke, there's fire. It's like everybody's got something. Everyone has a feeling.

[Co-host (possibly Fran's co-host)]

Everyone has something.

[Rhiann Fran]

Everybody has something. Everybody has some sort of feeling or idea or whatever. And. And everyone's gossiping about it, which is crazy. But like, everyone's just sending new Instagram posts being, oh my God, did you see this one? Did you see this one? Because no one's like, oh, I know 100 with 100% certainty.

[Co-host (possibly Fran's co-host)]

I have non Bravo friends.

[Rhiann Fran]

Yeah.

[Co-host (possibly Fran's co-host)]

Being like, I heard. I got this information. Yeah. I'm like, where the fuck did you hear that?

[Rhiann Fran]

Yeah, yeah.

[Co-host (possibly Fran's co-host)]

You know, like, because. Because it's not just Bravo people talking, it is people. No affiliation of Bravo whatsoever. Like, being like, I heard this from this person and I'm like, fuck the

[Rhiann Fran]

way these rumors go off. And like, it must be so crazy for these people too, because it's like, yeah, like 100%. My and my friends, we all watch Summer House. But it is funny too because they're all the different group chats, all firing off with all the different girls. And it's like my co workers friend, sister's cousin's boyfriend is friends with this person and knows because. And you're just like, okay. You're like, wait, there's like 90 different versions of that. I think everybody got that all weekend long.

[Co-host (possibly Fran's co-host)]

If it is true, they weren't trying that hard to like keep it under wraps because everybody has, it seems like has heard something. It's like they were like hiding in plain sight type of thing.

[Rhiann Fran]

Yeah. Well, here's the thing. It's like, that's because if it was. If it was like a one time hookup. Oh, no, we made a mistake. We're trying to keep it a secret. That's so different now. The narrative seems to be changing of, like, they like each other. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, you're like, wait a second.

[Co-host (possibly Fran's co-host)]

You're like, wait, you guys.

[Rhiann Fran]

You guys like each other? I don't know. Like that. That. I don't know. That spun it in a totally different way to me. Cause if it's like, oh, we hooked up one time, we're lying about it now because we're trying to cover it up. Like, oh, my God, we're so sorry. That's different. Like, is that like, that's a different. That's a different reunion. That's like a. Oh, my God, tablet my legs. Like, we made such a big mistake. We're so sorry. But now everyone's like, it's so much deeper than that. We're like, is it right?

[Co-host (possibly Fran's co-host)]

They're like, wait, they're gonna get married?

[Rhiann Fran]

Yeah.

[Co-host (possibly Fran's co-host)]

Now. Now people are looking at Amanda's posts where she would often include text messages from somebody with no name. Yeah. And they're like, are these texts from Wes? Like, there's also texts that are like invisible ink.

[Rhiann Fran]

Yeah, yeah.

[Co-host (possibly Fran's co-host)]

That she's been adding. People are like, like, that's what I mean by, like, playing in Sierra's face and plain sight.

[Rhiann Fran]

Hey.

[Co-host (possibly Fran's co-host)]

Which is just like, when we get the story, we'll know.

[Rhiann Fran]

I think west and Amanda are probably regretting a lot of the things that they put on the Internet in a way and forms of their friendship, because I think that they have been friends for a while and, like, things have. Have now crossed the line. But there was probably a time that they were just, we're just friends. And now everyone's taking apart every single thing. Like, I saw west had posted a bunch of pictures, and on one of the slide was, like, name cards, and the picture was West's name and Amanda's name. And one of their friends had commented, like, oh, my God, like, second slide or whatever, which is like the picture of that. And it's just. That's the stuff that everyone's gonna be like, oh, my God, I was hiding in plain sight. But it's like, no, I don't think that they were fucking. And they were like, no. But I think that, like, haha, nobody knows.

[Co-host (possibly Fran's co-host)]

No, I think that there was a point where they were definitely just friends. Thousand percent. I do think in the recent past two months or so, month or two, it has probably something happened. And that's where the text messages on Amanda's slide have come up, where it's been, like, kind of flirty. Text messages with no name attached. And you're just like, who? Who could. The who. Who is it?

[Rhiann Fran]

Is it Wes?

[Co-host (possibly Fran's co-host)]

Like, I. I don't know. I don't know. I think it's the, like, if you are into pop culture and reality TV right now, this has really been on the forefront on every. Everybody's brain. Even more so. Like, yeah, the Mormon wives are probably pissed. They're probably like, wait, no, no, I'm the one.

[Rhiann Fran]

My friend's ex.

[Co-host (possibly Fran's co-host)]

Look it over here. Yeah, Come on.

[Rhiann Fran]

Hey, guys, come on.

[Co-host (possibly Fran's co-host)]

Cameras up over here. Yeah. They're like, wait a second. We have to. More friends, exes. This isn't enough.

[Noah]

No.

[Rhiann Fran]

Yeah, yeah, we must. 18th was when Wes posted his. A bunch of pictures with the second slide being name cards from their dinner.

[Co-host (possibly Fran's co-host)]

And that was like the.

[Rhiann Fran]

It's like from a summer house dinner. Yeah, it's like from their. You know, from their dinner.

[Co-host (possibly Fran's co-host)]

Man, man, oh, man. Listen, I guess we'll see more. Sure. People will uncover more. And goodness gracious, all we have to look forward to is Mother Hubbard's Instagram post. Because if somebody knows how to play into a reality TV spectacle. Oh, yeah, it's Lindsey Hubbard.

[Rhiann Fran]

Absolutely.

[Co-host (possibly Fran's co-host)]

The Instagram stories are PR Queen.

[Rhiann Fran]

Absolutely. And if I know one thing, if this does. If this does get pulled out and we don't hear anything and like, we got a fucking WWE showdown at the reunion, Lindsay's the one you want in

[Co-host (possibly Fran's co-host)]

your corner for sure. Because there's actually no one Lindsay rides more for than Kyle.

[Rhiann Fran]

Yeah. Yes.

[Co-host (possibly Fran's co-host)]

Because on top of this, like, we're all talking about the CR aspect because that's where, like, it really lies for me where I'm like, girl, like, come on, your girl. Like, you could do that. So crazy with the Kyle.

[Rhiann Fran]

The part of it, like, I.

[Co-host (possibly Fran's co-host)]

But I think that's just like. I think for everybody because we just have seen how shitty Kyle is treated Amanda. That. Yeah, it's like, well, but I do understand Kyle.

[Rhiann Fran]

I know.

[Co-host (possibly Fran's co-host)]

And Kyle hurt by this, but I think Kyle, when he was asked on Watch what happens Live recently about the rumors.

[Rhiann Fran]

Yeah.

[Co-host (possibly Fran's co-host)]

He was like, I hope it's not true. And he basically said, like, yeah, it would suck, but more so, like, for Ciara's feelings. Like, Kyle was basically like, I care more about Sierra's feelings in this than. Than my own.

[Rhiann Fran]

Yeah.

[Co-host (possibly Fran's co-host)]

Which I think is right.

[Rhiann Fran]

You know, I mean, look.

[Co-host (possibly Fran's co-host)]

But I can understand him being totally.

[Rhiann Fran]

And Amanda and Lindsay have had, you know, their ups and downs through the years where it did feel like they have been on good ground. As friends. And I think Lindsay has tried to be supportive of both of them. I think they're all finding this shit out in real time. Like, we're seeing real live reactions, posting, hearing from Sierra, doing all these things. Because four days ago, Kyle also posted that picture of him and Amanda where he was, like, apologizing for his actions in the last episode because they were so bad, which is like a whole nother thing. It actually feels legit. Impossible to talk about the show, like, what's happening on the show right now versus what's going on in real life with these rumors. Cause it's like, oh, yeah, on Tuesday's episode, we did watch Kyle have an all time bad showing. Like, it was.

[Co-host (possibly Fran's co-host)]

He called his wife a dumb ass bitch.

[Rhiann Fran]

He called his wife a dumbass bitch.

[Co-host (possibly Fran's co-host)]

But yet now we're all stuck on, like, this could have been Amanda's week.

[Rhiann Fran]

You know, it could have been. It really, like, so. So Kyle puts out, like, this whole apology on Instagram, you know, acknowledging that he should have never spoken to Amanda like that. All these things, it's, you know, unacceptable. And Lindsay commented on that post, we love both of you with two heart emojis. And they're like, okay, that's nice. You know, supporting both of them still and what's going on? And then you just see all this play out.

[Co-host (possibly Fran's co-host)]

It's like this. And this was the whole lead up, right? Like, Andy was like, this is Kyle's worst episode. Which, by the way, like, we have seen Kyle act this way many of times since season two with Amanda. Like, he has talked down to her plenty of times. Yeah, this was obviously horrible. You do not call your wife's names. You don't call any woman a name like that and treat her the way that he did. Like, fuck you. You're a dumb ass bitch. Absolutely terrible.

[Rhiann Fran]

Yeah.

[Co-host (possibly Fran's co-host)]

Like, are we that shocked? Like, I feel like we've seen him talk like this before. It just was the fact that, like, this was ramped up to be Amanda's week. Like, ooh, bad, bad showing for Kyle. And he's gonna have to apologize a ton. Everyone's like, all right, all right, all right. Move past that. We're on to this now. Like, it just was quite the timing. Do you think Kyle's camp. Do you think Kyle was like, yo, we got to get this rumor out there. We got to ramp up this rumor because it looks bad for me this week. I don't know. I don't know. I think it just, like, you know, everything kind of fell into place this Week, but. Whoo. Lindsey, you want her on your side for this? Yeah, for sure. It feels like now, talking about this current season, like, I don't even want to watch the rest of the season. I just want to get to the reunion. Like, the rest of the season is void for me because it feels like when we were watching Vanderpump and everyone was like, all right, let's fast forward to the finale and the reunion because we got way more issues on our plate. Yeah. They might have to pick up cameras again on top of that. Would love to know Paige's reaction right now. Would love to know Paige's reaction because she has been in the middle of Hannah and Amanda for years now and has, I think, very maturely placed her spot, placed herself in a place where she could be friends with Amanda and Hannah separately, obviously seemingly closer with Hannah, but has maturely done so now. She's very close with Ciara. We know that. Yeah. It's like, let's just bring Paige back for the reunion.

[Rhiann Fran]

I know.

[Co-host (possibly Fran's co-host)]

Just to come in, just to get a reaction, you know, just have her do one confessional.

[Rhiann Fran]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You know how like, sometimes, like, Andy loves to make a joke where somebody that's involved in the drama, they're like, well, let's bring him out. Like.

[Co-host (possibly Fran's co-host)]

Yeah.

[Rhiann Fran]

And like, everyone in the cast, like, freaks out because they think the person's actually gonna walk in. And then he, like, goes, haha. It was like, that's the kind of situation where. Where at the reading, he's like, let's. We're gonna bring Paige out here to just go scorched earth on all of you.

[Co-host (possibly Fran's co-host)]

Listen, that would be amazing. That would just be so good.

[Rhiann Fran]

Nobody. I think. I think Lindsay will have it covered. And. Yeah, I don't know. It's gonna be crazy.

[Co-host (possibly Fran's co-host)]

Gonna be wild. Well, you know, leading into the last topic, let's hope that none of Brooks Nader's girlfriends have dated Taryn Egerton, because these two. What a random pairing. If you could have picked any random two people in the world, it would be Taryn Egerton and Brooks Nader. Put them together. They seem to be allegedly, like, dating each other.

[Rhiann Fran]

You know, they've been going on a couple dates. They were spotted a few places out in LA over the weekend, and the Page Six sources were saying they were certainly looking infatuated with each other, which is. Which is nice. I mean, I don't. Like you said, I don't know.

[Co-host (possibly Fran's co-host)]

It's so random.

[Rhiann Fran]

So random. It's such a random one. You go, oh, okay. You can't even believe those two people live in the same universe.

[Co-host (possibly Fran's co-host)]

No, no.

[Rhiann Fran]

So they do. And they're getting to know each other, which is lovely. He's British, he's charming.

[Co-host (possibly Fran's co-host)]

Taryn Egerton, very charming guy. Brittany, charming girl. Yeah, listen, they're seeing each other, I guess. I mean, this is one of those classes, like good for them, super fucking random.

[Rhiann Fran]

And it really just once again goes to show that. And I've said this before, Brooks could date quite literally anyone on planet earth and anybody. Which is just like time and time again, you see different stories. This, that, the other thing. I think she could probably get anybody to take her out on a date. Well, if they're available.

[Co-host (possibly Fran's co-host)]

Hey, listen, looks like her and Taryn are.

[Noah]

Kevin Costner's got some competition.

[Co-host (possibly Fran's co-host)]

Yeah, yeah, right. I actually found Kevin Costner and Brooks Nader to be less random than Taron Egerton and Brooks.

[Rhiann Fran]

Right, right. No, that is actually very true. They went to go see Project Hail Mary in LA on Friday. A little movie date, which I'm still fucking dying to see.

[Co-host (possibly Fran's co-host)]

And I have little movie date for those two.

[Rhiann Fran]

A little movie date and, and a back to back, a double feature where it's a Friday and a Saturday date.

[Co-host (possibly Fran's co-host)]

You know, they must have had Friday date.

[Rhiann Fran]

Movie. Saturday night they were seen getting drinks at luxury hotel shutters by the beach in Santa Monica, which they looked infatuated. They stopped by the hotel bar before heading to dinner. Wasn't their first date, says a source. They have known each other for some time.

[Noah]

I'm just picturing.

[Rhiann Fran]

What does that mean? They've known each other for some time.

[Noah]

Brook's like hanging out with Elton John now. Cause Elton and Taryn are friends.

[Rhiann Fran]

Yeah, they were just together. I just posted.

[Noah]

I feel like they're always together.

[Co-host (possibly Fran's co-host)]

Yeah, that is really exciting. I saw that movie like two or

[Rhiann Fran]

three times in theaters. Yeah, and we, we listened the shit out of that soundtrack.

[Co-host (possibly Fran's co-host)]

Yeah, we did.

[Rhiann Fran]

We were big, big, big fans. But this is like a hilarious page Six, you know, like the. At the end of an article, it's just always summarizes different things about whoever it's about. Is like Sports Illustrated swimsuit stunner. Nader has previously been linked to a string of high profile names, including Kevin Costner, tennis rivals Carlos Alcaraz and Jannik Sinner, NFL great Tom Brady and her Dancing with the Stars partner, Club Sevchenko.

[Co-host (possibly Fran's co-host)]

Listen, she does not have a type.

[Rhiann Fran]

No.

[Noah]

Yeah, yeah.

[Rhiann Fran]

If any.

[Co-host (possibly Fran's co-host)]

She does not have a type.

[Rhiann Fran]

No, no. We're all over the board.

[Co-host (possibly Fran's co-host)]

Whoever she's attracted to.

[Rhiann Fran]

All over the board on that one. Like I said she could.

[Noah]

Taryn's a short, short guy too, buddy. Compared to all those other guys.

[Co-host (possibly Fran's co-host)]

Short king.

[Noah]

I would say short king because he's like my height energy, but he's five' nine. I feel like Brooks is pretty tall.

[Rhiann Fran]

No, Brooks is pretty tall. Yeah.

[Noah]

Good for him.

[Rhiann Fran]

He's got that. He's got that certain quality, though, you know, British charm.

[Co-host (possibly Fran's co-host)]

He got that British charm.

[Rhiann Fran]

Yeah.

[Co-host (possibly Fran's co-host)]

All right, well, that wraps up the topics and we're going to get into the weekly watchport where we talk about summer house and just talk about this again.

[Rhiann Fran]

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[Co-host (possibly Fran's co-host)]

All right, let's get into the weekly watch report where we talk about the things we watch this week. Weekly watch report on Monday. Weekly watch report on Monday. Weekly watch report on Monday. Weekly watch report on Monday. I'm gonna start off with Survivor. I thought that this week's episode was a classic survivor episode. We had two eliminations and spoiler. If you have not watched this past episode of Survivor, I gotta give props to Rizzo who, you know what? He knows how to make a pact with the girlies. Him and siree now they're locked in. And he had a hilarious conversation where they were like, is there any world where you would work with the girls? And he was like, I only work with the girls on the last season. Like, I am not a guy's guy. So I'm loving what I'm seeing from. From the riz. God, honestly, he's got this smile that,

[Rhiann Fran]

like, God, they call that.

[Co-host (possibly Fran's co-host)]

I think so online. They call him that. His name's Rizzo, so. But he's got this smile that is endearing and infuriating at the same time. Like, it's endearing. And you're also, like, you're conniving.

[Rhiann Fran]

Yeah.

[Co-host (possibly Fran's co-host)]

So I'm really enjoying watching him on the opposite end of that. I was really rooting for Christian, but now Christian is just got, like, grinding my gears just a little much because now it's become like the Christian show. And although I was rooting for him, I now feel like. I feel like my. My tune is kind of changing a little bit, where I'm more like on Ozzy's side here, where I know Ozzy might be being like, a little bit of a baby, but at the same time, he's like, you me over. I want to get you out now. Which is just like classic Survivor. Like, you kind of get, you know, blurred vision of, like, if somebody you over, you're like, well, now they're gone. I want them gone. And that's kind of where Ozzy's out at at this point. Angelina was an easy one to pick off, but I do feel like because Christian is a strong player and Ozzy's a strong player, it. It would have been smart to kind of try to get Christian out because he is strong. Emily grinded my gears. I feel like she's not loyal to one singular person. I feel like in Survivor you have to, like, be loyal to at least two. One singular person. We thought that person was Ozzy for her, but now it seems like it's Christian as well, and she's kind of bouncing back between the two. Whereas, like, siree her aligning with Rizzo, she's like, okay, I used to play, you know, like, I'm used to playing old school where I do not tell everybody everything. But this, like, new way of thinking of, like, you have to pick one person, kind of give all your information to and put your trust into so that they give it all back to you. You're kind of locked in with, like, at least one person. So Siri and Rizzo kind of have that, whereas Emily, I feel like she wants that with Ozzy, but at the same time, she's giving Christian the same information. So it's like you got to pick one person to be singularly loyal to. You can have a couple alliance, but you gotta be locked, you know, in step with at least one for sure. So I'm not loving the way Emily's playing the game there. But this season has been really good in this episode for me. Kind of up there as my favorite of the season. So I will give this episode an A minus. Really liked it. Double tribal, Always super interesting. And those are my Survivor takes. Moving on. Love story finale.

[Rhiann Fran]

Yeah.

[Co-host (possibly Fran's co-host)]

Couldn't even finish it. Could not finish it.

[Noah]

Can we just love each other?

[Co-host (possibly Fran's co-host)]

No, I just couldn't do it. Like, I. I couldn't do it. I don't know.

[Noah]

I thought it was.

[Co-host (possibly Fran's co-host)]

First of all, watching it, like, made me feel uncomfortable.

[Rhiann Fran]

Yeah, no, that's for sure.

[Co-host (possibly Fran's co-host)]

Because I kind of was, like.

[Noah]

Because we don't. Because it's all just made up.

[Co-host (possibly Fran's co-host)]

It's. Yeah. Like, that part of it, like on the plane, just endless and. I know. Fucking show speed up and listen.

[Noah]

I know, but people aren't treating it like that.

[Co-host (possibly Fran's co-host)]

I know. I kind of. I'm kind of picking and choosing of, like, there are. There are plenty of things that I've watched that have been real life scenarios that they play out on TV and movies and recreate. Right. This one for me. I don't know why, I just, like, felt uncomfortable. Like, I guess because there has been so much talk about, you know, from the family of, like, this isn't true. And then, like, to watch people who, like, died in a crash and then, like, them, like, and you don't know how true. I don't know.

[Noah]

They said that she wasn't even sitting in the front seat.

[Co-host (possibly Fran's co-host)]

Yeah. And then on top of that, like, just like, the acting had gotten so bad for me towards the end of this show. I can't remember another show to me in recent memory that I started off on such a high in my brain that went down so much like this show did for me. Like, I just completely lost interest after, like, it got. It got, like, such a bad taste in my mouth from, like, how bad it was.

[Rhiann Fran]

I will say the last. The last 20 minutes or so of this, of the show, of this episode was really good.

[Co-host (possibly Fran's co-host)]

Meryl Streep's daughter.

[Rhiann Fran]

Yeah, she was fantastic.

[Co-host (possibly Fran's co-host)]

She did a great job.

[Rhiann Fran]

And honestly, so did Dana Gordon. Like, there's a conversation that they have at the table in the loft that was really, really well done. And yet this is like, like, you. You have to. You have to suspend the real life part of it because it's like, it's made up. These conversations are made up. You don't know that these conversations happened. But I thought that she was really, really good in the. In the end of this episode.

[Co-host (possibly Fran's co-host)]

Yeah.

[Rhiann Fran]

The two of them together.

[Co-host (possibly Fran's co-host)]

I think ever since the last two before this, it kind of dropped in my brain that this one, I especially. I was like, all right, I've kind of wrapped this show up in my head that it's also.

[Rhiann Fran]

What. It's also a show where it's like, when you get. Towards the end, the last couple episodes, you know what's gonna happen.

[Co-host (possibly Fran's co-host)]

Right. Right.

[Rhiann Fran]

You know, there's no, like, oh, they're gonna live happily ever after. What's gonna happen? Or they fix their marriage or all these things. It's like, no, no, no. You actually know that it ends in an extremely tragic fashion. So I don't blame you for, like, being like. I actually don't really feel like watching the rest of this.

[Co-host (possibly Fran's co-host)]

I didn't. I just was, like, really just not in the mood for that. So. Yeah, you know, whatever on that. And then Summer House, like, listen, Kyle, we know.

[Rhiann Fran]

Yes, that was.

[Co-host (possibly Fran's co-host)]

But I got nothing else to say.

[Rhiann Fran]

No, right. For sure. But it was a very bad showing.

[Co-host (possibly Fran's co-host)]

It was a very bad showing for Kyle.

[Rhiann Fran]

And the way I reacted made me see. Made it feel like. Like this happens often.

[Co-host (possibly Fran's co-host)]

Yes. And said, like, way worse.

[Rhiann Fran]

Yeah.

[Co-host (possibly Fran's co-host)]

I hope in the future for whoever Kyle ends up with in a relationship that Kyle has, like, learned his lesson. And what's unfortunate is, I don't know,

[Rhiann Fran]

because the lesson here is that he should not be drinking. That's. That, you know what? You know, like, I. The way I see it is these reactions come out of him when he is so drunk.

[Co-host (possibly Fran's co-host)]

Right. And I feel like that happens all the time. Face the reality of, like, hey, maybe drinking is not in your best interest. And it does not seem like that's even a conversation that happens. The way that he spoke to Amanda is absolutely despicable. The way that he's always spoken to Amanda on camera has been despicable. So I feel like that's why. Yes. Horrible. Not shocking, because I feel like people have made compilations of, like, since season two of how he's talked to her. And it's like, this has just been the thing, and, my God, it's just bad. And people on Summer House and in Kyle's life say how nice of a person he is, how great of a person he is, fine. But if that's how you speak to women, especially not just especially, but just somebody you're in a relationship, your wife. That's fucking insane. It's disgusting.

[Rhiann Fran]

And it seemed like they all were acting like there was a chance that the next morning that he wouldn't have even remembered what he said, which is just. Which is crazy.

[Co-host (possibly Fran's co-host)]

It's so bad.

[Rhiann Fran]

You know, like that whole other level to it where it's like, okay, he's drinking to the point where he is yelling at his wife and calling his wife names. And they think in the morning, like, maybe he won't remember everything he said.

[Co-host (possibly Fran's co-host)]

Right? And Amanda's like, yeah, I don't know. Like, it's fine. I'm just gonna, like. I'm like, how? I don't know how you just. I would never be able to just, like, carry on with my dad. I don't know how that's possible, but, yeah, I mean, brutal, brutal, brutal. You know, he. He posted an apology. But, yeah, I think you're right. I think he's got to, like, take a closer look in the mirror here and be like, I don't know. The drinking seems to create these actions that are. No, no good. I will give Summer House a B. This episode Southern Charm reunion has wrapped up.

[Rhiann Fran]

Yeah.

[Co-host (possibly Fran's co-host)]

These fucking people, man. Also a group that's probably happy that there's more coming out with another show because.

[Rhiann Fran]

Right, right, right. Everyone's moving on for Southern Charm fast.

[Co-host (possibly Fran's co-host)]

Craig's like, woo, yeah.

[Rhiann Fran]

Yeah.

[Co-host (possibly Fran's co-host)]

I don't have to worry about my showing of the reunion because look at this. Not a great showing for Craig here. Not really a great show. It was a tough season for Craig. Um, Madison's always gonna make me laugh. She always has, like, the best lines. Yeah. Interesting. It seems like Sally and Vanita in real life now are, like, hanging out again, which is nice because Andy kind of put, like, his dad hat on and was like, yeah, come on. Like, let's not let the Internet ruin your real friendship. Which I thought was a nice sentiment from Andy, because he's right.

[Rhiann Fran]

He is very right. And that, like, made me a little sad, too, to hear Vanita say that she was kind of going off of, like, what the Internet was telling her for her friendship with Sally. That was. Seemed to be very genuine and. But it did seem like they were able to talk it out and get to get to a good place and express their feelings and how they sort of feel about each other. I mean, Craig and Austin were like, oh, we could take some notes from them, I guess, like, but they're those two. Those two will love, hate each other for the rest of time. You know, it's like, oh, there's all this. But then you go on Instagram and they're like, on a ski trip together. You know, you're like, okay. It's just.

[Co-host (possibly Fran's co-host)]

It's Incredibly confusing.

[Rhiann Fran]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Co-host (possibly Fran's co-host)]

Sally did post a TikTok where she was like, it's. Sometimes the people you assume are girls. Girls are actually not the ones that you doubt actually are. And somebody commented being like, is this about the Wes Amanda situation? She liked it. So you know what? Everyone's. Everyone's trickling in their thoughts in the

[Rhiann Fran]

Bravo universe right now, which does remind me of the way everybody acted when Scandal happened. It was like everybody wanted to get their.

[Co-host (possibly Fran's co-host)]

Yeah.

[Rhiann Fran]

Their two cents in with. With. With how that was. With how that was going on.

[Noah]

I.

[Rhiann Fran]

Man, I know. We've been. It's. We've exhausted all. All thoughts on it.

[Co-host (possibly Fran's co-host)]

It's not exhausted. People can't stop talking about it.

[Rhiann Fran]

Stop talking about it. And. And it's just like. Like I said, older sister, where I'm like, God, if it's all true, I'm just disappointed, you know? Cause I really. I really enjoy both of them. I really like. You know, I think they're both good, like, good entertainment. They've been good on tv. I don't know Amanda personally really that well, but, like, anytime we've interacted with her, it's always been lovely. And, you know, Wes, I'd call a friend. So it's like. You're like, ugh, it's bad.

[Co-host (possibly Fran's co-host)]

It's bad. I will give Southern Charm a B. Yeah. And I watched the first two episodes of DTF St. Louis.

[Rhiann Fran]

Ooh. Oh, Whoa.

[Noah]

Weird fucking show.

[Co-host (possibly Fran's co-host)]

Weird.

[Noah]

And it gets weirder every time.

[Co-host (possibly Fran's co-host)]

I also, just, like, was not expecting what happened. Like, I don't know what I was expecting, but with the title DTF and the synopsis of what they put out there, I thought it was just about a bunch of adults each other. I don't know what I thought it was gonna be. I thought Jason Bateman and. Is there a David Harbor? What?

[Rhiann Fran]

Is there a murder?

[Noah]

Someone's dead.

[Co-host (possibly Fran's co-host)]

Yeah.

[Rhiann Fran]

Yeah.

[Co-host (possibly Fran's co-host)]

Well, I don't want to spoil for anybody who.

[Rhiann Fran]

No, no, I know. But I think that's part, like. I think people know. It's like, no, I didn't know when

[Co-host (possibly Fran's co-host)]

I started it that that was gonna be.

[Rhiann Fran]

I've only seen it because people, like. I've seen that. People talking about it in that way, that it's like that it's a murder mystery.

[Co-host (possibly Fran's co-host)]

There is a death, and not what I was expecting. I just read the first line of the synopsis, and it was like a love triangle between. And I was like, oh, okay. Yeah, but I'm gonna have to see it out. I'll give it A B. Yeah.

[Noah]

That's kind of where I'm at. I don't love it.

[Co-host (possibly Fran's co-host)]

Yeah. I'm not obsessed.

[Noah]

Yeah. I don't really, like. I'm not really. I'm not really that invested.

[Rhiann Fran]

Yeah.

[Noah]

Fair in the story. It's just weird.

[Co-host (possibly Fran's co-host)]

I agree. Also, just, I. I think Jason Bateman is such a good. And Linda Cardellini.

[Noah]

Although Jason Bateman, like. And I actually do like Jason Bateman. He's always just Jason.

[Co-host (possibly Fran's co-host)]

Like, I get his character that he's

[Noah]

played into this show and it'd be like the same guy.

[Co-host (possibly Fran's co-host)]

Yeah. Jason Bateman has that kind of like Jason Bateman. Yeah. I agree.

[Rhiann Fran]

Even the animated version of Jason Bateman and Zootopia. Yeah. Like that.

[Co-host (possibly Fran's co-host)]

It's just. He just has that voice that's like. It never really changes. So I'll give that show a B.

[Rhiann Fran]

And

[Co-host (possibly Fran's co-host)]

love overboard. I've downloaded for our train ride today.

[Rhiann Fran]

Yes.

[Co-host (possibly Fran's co-host)]

Because I have seen how ridiculous the show is. So don't spoil anything. Cause I know you've watched.

[Rhiann Fran]

I finished the whole thing.

[Co-host (possibly Fran's co-host)]

Okay. I have it downloaded for the train. I cannot wait to watch. And then as for new stuff, DTF was like the only new thing that we had started. There's a couple of.

[Noah]

There's like Melmarone. I started that show.

[Co-host (possibly Fran's co-host)]

That's. Yes. I want to watch that as well. There's a ton on my docket for the week to get going. But yeah, not. I didn't watch a ton of TV this weekend, so I definitely have some more to catch up on.

[Rhiann Fran]

I will grade. I'm trying to think. I'll graze. Summer House A B, Southern Charm Reunion, Part two, C plus. I thought part one was a little juicier. I'm caught up on Southern hospitality. Southern hospitality is just fantastic. It really is. It's so. These people are so entertaining to me. Like, the fact that Emmy went back to this show is so wild because it's like now her fiance Will won't be on it. So Will's not on it at all anymore. So she's just kind of like lone wolfing it. And it's like. It's just bad. It's bad news. She. The things that come out of her mouth. It's like, oh, no. And right now they're still dealing with the blowback from drama that happened at the end of their last reunion where Emmy had said that she. That Brad had made her feel unsafe. Which was like a crazy statement to make because basically Brad heard her through the hotel room after the reunion. Their rooms were like, next to each other or whatever. She was yelling and she heard. He heard everything that. That she was saying of, like, oh, they. You know, they. She got one over on all of them and all these things. And. And. And he heard her and, like, sent her a text because he was so pissed off. And then she was saying that she, like, felt unsafe, which was a crazy thing to say, like, from somebody who is your friend that you've known for a really long time. Like, yeah, you guys aren't all getting along right now, and there's a lot of drama. But that's a big statement to make. And he was very open to me. Like, it's a big statement to make. It's a big statement to make for me as a black guy to. Now you saying you feel unsafe around me. And she's. It's like, not computing to her. So she's like, having these meltdowns of, like, microaggression.

[Co-host (possibly Fran's co-host)]

Like, I don't know what that means.

[Rhiann Fran]

Like, and she's trying to, like, explain what a microaggression is in her. In her confessional. It's. You're like, oh, my God. It's. It's a tr. It's a train wreck. Train wreck. But at the same time, you have that going on. At the same time, Grace. Grace Lilly has been. Is opening up about sort of her. Of those, you know, substance abuse issues that she has had, which we have seen play out in the news. Which is really sad because you see these headlines of her getting arrested and. And things like that and her friendship with Maddie. And I give Maddie a lot of props. Like, Maddie really, really, really is trying to be a good friend to her and Maddie. And Gracilia kind of lashes out. Cause I think she knows she can. Is like, oh, Maddy's still there for her. So I give Maddie a lot of props for, like, because Maddie knows what she's going through. And she's like, I just know, like, her worst fear is when she's not there for her and the worst happens or something happens. And so it's crazy. Cause they really. It's real. It can be very serious. Serious issues that they're. They're talking about and dealing with in their friend. In their friend group and the dynamics and. And all that. And they threw this new guy, Justin in the mix who's just been, you know, he's one of these guys that you're like, oh, reality TV guy. Now he's dating Charlie.

[Co-host (possibly Fran's co-host)]

Oh, yes, this guy.

[Rhiann Fran]

And he's like, yeah, he's all over TikTok. He was on. I think he's been on multiple other shows. He was definitely on Perfect Match. I remember watching him on that. I think he's done maybe like a couple other reality shows. And you're like, oh, now you just so happen to be a server at Republic, you know, so he's on that reality tv. Reality TV grind. Found his place in Charleston with this group. So it's really top notch reality tv. I'll give it a. I'm totally caught up. I'll give it a B plus. These, like, first, I think four episodes are out. I watched. I watched all of Love Overboard. Flew through it. Really good, bad reality tv. Really good, bad Episode one. Like, this girl is having a meltdown about having to. Bell is having a meltdown about having to be on the. The downside of the boat and cleaning and just having a legit mental breakdown about having to, like, clean. And it's wildly entertaining. It's Below Deck meets Love Island. Like, it's. They have these plank ceremonies where it's like basically if a Love island fire pit recoupling sent somebody off, like the dock. And it's so. It's like, you know, these. You have to pick one of the. You've got two people in front of you. You got to pick one. The one you don't pick plummets into the ocean. It's really, really crazy. Gabby. Wendy's fantastic. She's so funny in it. Like, really, you know, funny one liners and being involved, this isn't too much of a spoiler. I mean, it's not really a spoiler at all, but there's a. There's a big plank ceremony that happens like midway through and the guy's taking fucking forever. Like, they're all sitting there. It's like they have a clock. It's like 20 minutes, 30 minutes, 45 minutes. These girls are standing on the fucking plank. They're like crying. It's like, make a goddamn decision. And. And Gabby just goes. She says the guy's name. She goes, for fuck's sake. It's like, make a fucking decision. They're all yelling. It's just. It's great. There's. There's. There's some dates where some sexual things are happening that knock your socks off. You're like, whoa. You guys know you're all on tv, right? So it's good. It's really, really good tv. Really good tv. I'll give it. I'll give it a B as a whole. Cause, you know, first season, it's Also, like, it's silly. You're not exactly believing these people are, you know, gonna ride off into the sunset together. The prize is a trip around the world and I would like to know if that trip really did happen because they showed pictures of the winners and my God, they looked fake. They looked like AI. It was like these. And they might have been. And maybe that was the joke, I don't know. But it was really, really very entertaining show. Good hair days do more than we give them credit for. When your hair feels healthy, you show up differently. You're more confident, more relaxed, and you're not constantly checking mirrors or adjusting your hair. Your hair becomes one less thing competing for your attention throughout the day. Nutrafol supports hair health from within, working overtime to deliver results you can see and feel so your hair becomes something you enjoy, not something you stress about. Nutrafol is the number one dermatologist recommended hair growth supplement brand. And it's the number one hair growth supplement brand personally used by dermatologists. Adding Nutrafol to your daily routine is easy. You just have to order online. No prescription is needed with automated deliveries and free shipping to keep you on track. Plus, with the Nutriflo subscription, you can save up to 20% off and get added perks to support your hair health journey. Let your hair be one less thing to worry about. See visibly thicker, stronger, faster. Growing hair in three to six months with Nutrafol. For a limited time, Nutrafol is offering our listeners $10 off your first month subscription and free shipping when you visit nutrafol.com and use promo code chicks. That's nutrafol.com spelled n u t r a f o l.com promo code chicks. I caught up on Grey's Anatomy. I know that that's. No one really cares about that, but I'm all caught up. There's some news that Owen and

[Noah]

I was shocked they were still even on the show when I saw that news.

[Rhiann Fran]

Yeah. Why am I spacing on her name? Owen. And look up her name for me, please. Her character's name.

[Noah]

I'm having a Teddy.

[Rhiann Fran]

Teddy.

[Co-host (possibly Fran's co-host)]

Yeah, thanks.

[Rhiann Fran]

Sorry, brain fart. My God. Owen and Teddy are, are leaving like they're, they're. The actors are done with the show. It is shocking that Owen has been on for this long. So it's been a long time. It's been a long go, but it's been all right. I'm not loving a lot of these storylines, but I just can't stop watching. For some God forsaken reason. I Don't know why. I'll give it a C. It's average. Fine. Keep, you know, still turning it on. I watched. I watched Fantastic Four. Super random. I don't know why.

[Noah]

Which one?

[Rhiann Fran]

The new one. The. The page of Pascal one. And I actually thoroughly enjoyed it. I don't know why I felt like. You know, sometimes when you just open an app and you have no. You go in with the idea of one thing and it just leads you in a totally different direction. Late. Like, I don't know what it was. I opened Disney thinking I was gonna, like, throw on Hannah Montana or something. Cause I was like, ah, I'm gonna watch some episodes of Hannah Montana.

[Co-host (possibly Fran's co-host)]

I did do that a ton, actually, in the hotel last week. I watched Hannah Montana.

[Noah]

Yeah.

[Rhiann Fran]

So I was like, oh, maybe I'll do that. And then for some reason, when I saw the thing for Fantastic Four, I was like, oh, I never watched this one play.

[Co-host (possibly Fran's co-host)]

Yeah, why not?

[Rhiann Fran]

And I just watched it. It was good. I'll give it. I'm so behind on a lot of the Marvel stuff. I know that that's an overarching conversation with where. With Mayor. Oh, my God. With where Marvel is right now as a whole. But got a big Avengers coming up this year, so I feel like there's some things that I gotta watch just so. I'm ready for that. I'll give it. I'll give it a B minus. Enjoyable. Nothing crazy.

[Noah]

It'll never be the same as.

[Rhiann Fran]

What?

[Noah]

It'll never be the same as the Jessica Alba ones.

[Rhiann Fran]

Yeah, no, yeah, yeah, obviously. But I did really like this cast. I thought they were great. Like, they had good chemistry together, which was good. And

[Co-host (possibly Fran's co-host)]

Paradise.

[Rhiann Fran]

Paradise.

[Noah]

I was waiting. I was waiting for you to forget.

[Rhiann Fran]

You know what's so funny is, as you were introducing the weekly Watch Report two, in my mind, I was going, paradise. Paradise.

[Co-host (possibly Fran's co-host)]

I know she watched paradise because you watched it next to me on the plane.

[Rhiann Fran]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Co-host (possibly Fran's co-host)]

So I was like, I know she watched it.

[Rhiann Fran]

I know she watched it. I watched it.

[Noah]

You watch it on the train now, today?

[Rhiann Fran]

I know. Well, no, no, I don't want to watch it on the train. This is the finale.

[Noah]

Wait, this is the finale?

[Co-host (possibly Fran's co-host)]

Yes.

[Rhiann Fran]

This is the last episode.

[Noah]

What the fuck? That was fast.

[Rhiann Fran]

Episode 8. Last episode.

[Noah]

Eight episodes.

[Rhiann Fran]

Yeah, I know. Believe me, I looked it up right away after I finished, because I was like, what the fuck is gonna happen?

[Noah]

Any. Any of the inside of the dome? We're not gonna get any of that.

[Rhiann Fran]

Well, who knows if the dome even survives? I mean, my God, they might blow up.

[Noah]

I know, but it's like, is he even gonna be able to get back? Like, are we even gonna see him get back in time? I don't know.

[Rhiann Fran]

No, we definitely are there. It seems like he's in the mix of things, but yeah, no, episode seven was great. Definitely more in the mix. I. Here's my thing also with having. Watching these shows and then like opening TikTok, your algorithm starts to just serve you. Like, I saw this on Reddit or my prediction for the show and I'm like, actually, I. I know some people love seeing that. I don't want to see it.

[Co-host (possibly Fran's co-host)]

Yeah.

[Rhiann Fran]

Because I don't want all these theories in my head right now. I'm watching paradise and I'm like, I have no fucking clue how they're gonna end this and I don't want anyone to tell me how they think they're gonna end it just in case they're right. And then I'm like, oh, that was anti climactic.

[Co-host (possibly Fran's co-host)]

You could just be. Rather be surprised.

[Rhiann Fran]

I'd rather be surprised. Just like, knock me. Knock my socks off with how this whole thing's gonna end. Paradise is so good of using like a very popular song that they really like. They dramatize everybody that wants to rule this.

[Noah]

This one. I was kind of like it. I was like, okay, like, no, I loved it. So corny.

[Rhiann Fran]

I watched the last five minutes like three times.

[Co-host (possibly Fran's co-host)]

I actually love when. When TV shows and movies do that. It reminds me of Stepfather. The end of Stepfather. Oh, yes.

[Rhiann Fran]

Imagine me, you. You and me. Like, I. I'll be together.

[Co-host (possibly Fran's co-host)]

Yeah. I'll eat up.

[Rhiann Fran]

I'll play you the. What they do at the end of Paradise.

[Co-host (possibly Fran's co-host)]

I'll eat up a thriller song like that. When they really change a happy song to something spooky news.

[Rhiann Fran]

Yeah.

[Co-host (possibly Fran's co-host)]

Yeah.

[Rhiann Fran]

Chills. Quite the setup because there are. It's finally where all the storylines are going to converge, where all the little side quests that everybody's doing.

[Noah]

I want, by the way, I wanted him to shoot Gary in the head.

[Co-host (possibly Fran's co-host)]

Come on.

[Rhiann Fran]

Jeez. No, no. I mean, I mean, yeah, but she was right. She was able to hand like, she

[Noah]

was like, I can't believe he let her go down talk to Gary.

[Rhiann Fran]

I know. I also thought it was so funny that both of them just acquired another. Like, Xavier was like, oh, you have bean that you've been taking care of for all this time. I'll raise you a. I'll raise you a newborn that I promised I would take to her father.

[Noah]

They're Gonna come back with, oh, you guys have two other siblings.

[Rhiann Fran]

Yeah. And we brought back two new children for you. But I do think it brings the whole season together. Cause it's like the whole season, each episode has had a different storyline and now it's like, okay, they're all going to come together in the way that James Barsden was saying it of like, hey, you think you're fine. Every civilization in history thought they had it covered until you get the perfect storm of shit hitting the fan, which seems like we're going to get really. Still, I wonder if there's more to the therapist and. And Jane situation because, like, she just dead. Like, is that it? Like, if. If this is. If that's the way it goes for Jane. Sorry. Most pointless character ever. I mean, she seems to be dead, which, like, I'm hoping maybe there's a deeper connection to, like, I mean, she has to the story. Yeah. Yeah. But you know what I'm saying, Her. Her, like, with the prediction of her being a killer, like, that whole thing with like, I feel like there's got to be more. There's got to be more there.

[Noah]

I'm kind of confused where what's her face ended up at the end, like, when she's like, looking Sinatra. Yeah.

[Rhiann Fran]

Yeah. Well, that's why. Because everyone's making predictions of, like, what Alex is. And I'm like, I don't fucking know. I'm so confused with the way with the doctor and the real Alex and the. Maybe the computer Alex and what Alex.

[Noah]

She built like another like, section that no one knows about.

[Rhiann Fran]

Like, there's certain shows where, like, I'm not even going to try and pretend predict what happens because I'm not fully comprehending what exactly is going on.

[Noah]

It's very like, Lost.

[Rhiann Fran]

Yeah.

[Noah]

Like.

[Rhiann Fran]

Yeah, like, once we get into the whole, like, physics, computer whatever system that's being built that. That is like putting. I'm not quite sure what Sinatra's doing. Is she like, putting people into other bodies?

[Noah]

You know what? You know what I like, I'm like,

[Rhiann Fran]

is that kid her son? I don't know.

[Noah]

Is this kid be mad about, like, bringing characters who are supposed to be dead back? But I would be so happy if James Marsden was like, alive.

[Rhiann Fran]

Same.

[Noah]

I'd be like, I miss James Marsden in the show. Like, give me more James.

[Rhiann Fran]

But, you know, no one really gets. He really sneaks into some of the best projects. You open an app and you're guaranteed to see James Marsden in something. Like, you're like, oh, he's in this. There was, like, some new thing on Hulu that they kept promoting that he was in, and he's gonna be on the. He's in the new Friends and Neighbors season. So you're just like, yeah, let's just.

[Noah]

Oh, he'll be good in that.

[Rhiann Fran]

Trickle a little James Marsden into. Into the show. But, yeah, I'm really intrigued to see how this all comes out and, like, what connections Sinatra has to. To link. But she's like, what's your name? Dylan. When's your birthday? Same birthday. Is it her? I don't. It's. It breaks my brain a little bit. I can't. I can't. I have a hard time fully understand. I have to, like, read people's recaps. And then even then, I'm like, wow, I would have never caught on to that. But I'll give it a. I'll give episode 7 a. A. I thought it was. I thought it was really good. I fucking love the show, so I really enjoy it, and that is everything that I watched.

[Co-host (possibly Fran's co-host)]

Did you watch the Pit? Yes.

[Noah]

I knew you. I was actually just gonna go through mine and wait for her to.

[Co-host (possibly Fran's co-host)]

I feel like we can do France Weekly. Watch.

[Noah]

I just write all my down.

[Rhiann Fran]

I always forget the Pit every week.

[Co-host (possibly Fran's co-host)]

It's paradise in the Pit.

[Rhiann Fran]

I know.

[Co-host (possibly Fran's co-host)]

How you forgetting it? I didn't know.

[Noah]

And they're like, two of your favorite shows.

[Rhiann Fran]

They're so good every single time. But the weird thing is with the Pit is, like, I still. I can't. I watch it and I enjoy it, but I couldn't tell. Like, I have to be reminded of, like, what patients are in the episode. Like, what was happening. Oh, I've heard the guy that went crazy tried to choke the nurse.

[Noah]

Yeah.

[Rhiann Fran]

That was wild. Bad guy. What a jerk that guy was.

[Noah]

Yeah.

[Rhiann Fran]

Seemed like he was doing too much coke and drinking on the golf course.

[Co-host (possibly Fran's co-host)]

That's disgusting.

[Rhiann Fran]

That's disgusting. And he had it like a mat. Like a psychosis. And just, like, it was attacking.

[Noah]

Attack anyway.

[Rhiann Fran]

Yeah, 100%. But they're. We're getting closer to them making the night shift.

[Noah]

Yeah. You know when the night guy starts

[Rhiann Fran]

showing up where they start to the. The cyber attack seems to be over.

[Noah]

Yeah.

[Rhiann Fran]

I don't know. There's more with Robbie that I'm still, like, up in the air with.

[Noah]

I like Robbie and Dana going at it.

[Rhiann Fran]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. It really is a great conversation of, does Langdon belong or not? Or they were yelling about it too.

[Noah]

If we're. If this is the real world. No, he should be fired and never work in a hospital again. If this is the real world. I'm just so concerned from the hospital.

[Rhiann Fran]

It's like, how does. How was he even able to come back?

[Noah]

He's a. He's an addict. He stole drugs from his patients.

[Rhiann Fran]

It seems like Robbie didn't even want him back.

[Noah]

Well, Robbie. They. Any one of them could have said what actually happened. It's like a secret. Everyone thinks he just was an addict. No one, except for a few people know he stole the drugs from his patients. That.

[Co-host (possibly Fran's co-host)]

That's a no guy. That's like, that's a no guy.

[Noah]

I get where he's coming from, but I also don't. You can't stand on your high horse when you didn't do anything.

[Rhiann Fran]

Told the new doctor, Right?

[Noah]

Yeah. The new attending.

[Co-host (possibly Fran's co-host)]

Yeah, yeah.

[Noah]

Yes. I like a few of them know, but it's like you. I also am. Like, if you're not gonna do anything about it, then you can't just hold this grudge over him because you let him come back. So you are implicated now.

[Co-host (possibly Fran's co-host)]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Rhiann Fran]

No, Agreed. This was a B plus episode for me. I. Because I felt like I wasn't. There wasn't as much action.

[Noah]

The Pit is always just like. If it's like a. It's always an A mine. That's like, the base for me.

[Co-host (possibly Fran's co-host)]

Yeah.

[Noah]

I feel like there's never been an episode of the Pit where I'm like. Like, oh, that wasn't that good.

[Co-host (possibly Fran's co-host)]

Yeah.

[Noah]

Like, it's still so good, but.

[Rhiann Fran]

All right, that's everything.

[Noah]

We'll see.

[Co-host (possibly Fran's co-host)]

We shall see.

[Noah]

Yeah. So I watched the last two episodes of dtf. I'm not like that into the show. I'm gonna keep watching it because I. I just have to see, like, is

[Rhiann Fran]

it a weekly release?

[Noah]

Yeah, it's weekly. Every Sunday. I'll give it a B minus. Like, it's. It's well done. And, like, the acting is good. It's just. It's super weird. And I really, like I said earlier, like, I'm not too invested in any of the characters. They all are. Like, I don't like any of them. I really don't. I mean, I guess. What's this race from Stranger Things is a nice guy, but yeah. Yeah, I'll give it a B minus and we'll see where it's going. I saw Project hail Mary in IMAX. 70 millimeter.

[Rhiann Fran]

I haven't even asked you about it.

[Noah]

The thing is, the cheat code is tickets will just appear right before. Like, I already had got Mine, like, because I just went by myself, so it's easier to find like one.

[Co-host (possibly Fran's co-host)]

Yeah.

[Noah]

I wasn't like the fifth row, but the whole row in front of me was empty. Like, ticket tickets will just be put back. Like someone doesn't want to go anymore. Like Fandango or whatever. They'll just refund you.

[Rhiann Fran]

Yeah.

[Noah]

So like, you can just not go.

[Co-host (possibly Fran's co-host)]

Yeah.

[Noah]

And so there were like a good amount of. I went to the.

[Rhiann Fran]

You're still buying tickets through Fandango? Yeah.

[Noah]

Is that not a thing? Like, no.

[Rhiann Fran]

I mean, I don't think I bought a movie theater ticket off.

[Noah]

How do you buy tickets?

[Rhiann Fran]

The AMC app.

[Noah]

Oh, yes. Yeah.

[Co-host (possibly Fran's co-host)]

See, listen. But I mean, if you're getting a

[Noah]

refund from Fandango, I'm sure AMC would do it too.

[Rhiann Fran]

Yeah. A lister, not a list. No, no. Premiere.

[Noah]

What's the middle difference?

[Rhiann Fran]

The highest level is like you. You're going to see three movies a week.

[Noah]

Like, yeah, that. Yeah.

[Rhiann Fran]

You get all those perks.

[Noah]

I've thought about it just because I feel like Premiere, it's just like, it's a joke online now. But I. I kind of do. Would. I would like to be like, I'm an A lister.

[Co-host (possibly Fran's co-host)]

That sounds cool. Yeah.

[Noah]

So I thought about it just for that fact, knowing I would not see enough movies for it to be worth it.

[Rhiann Fran]

Yeah.

[Noah]

Although shout out to the one fan who gave us those AMC things because I did get a bunch of free drinks and popcorn.

[Co-host (possibly Fran's co-host)]

Yeah. That was awesome.

[Noah]

But. But yeah. So if I'm just going off of, like, the visuals alone, it's an A plus. Like, it's incredible. First of all, if you go to that. Have you been to that theater, the imax? It's crazy. I mean, like, that's the second time I've gone. I saw Sinners last year. It's the biggest screen you'll ever see. Like, it's ridiculous. Yeah.

[Rhiann Fran]

The screenshot, it's insane. Yeah, it is.

[Co-host (possibly Fran's co-host)]

Yeah.

[Noah]

And like the visuals of this movie are insane. And Ryan Gosling is amazing. The story is just a little like more light hearted and jokey and I have seen other people kind of compare it to like the Marvel type humor a little bit where I. I'm gonna

[Rhiann Fran]

fucking love this movie.

[Noah]

Yeah. Like, I thought it was really good. I'm gonna give it a B as a grade. I do think that it's like, if I didn't see it in IMAX and I just watched it on my TV at home, like, would I say the same thing? I don't know. Because it isn't like an experience like you gotta see it in the theaters, but the story itself. Like, a lot of people are comparing it to Martian not just because it's like a space movie, but it's the same author.

[Rhiann Fran]

Same author.

[Noah]

Like, I think the Martian is just like a way better movie. Like, and it's a way better. Like, the Martian's still funny at points, but they balance it out with, like, there's a lot of serious moments.

[Co-host (possibly Fran's co-host)]

It's just a different story, this movie.

[Noah]

Like, there's so much at stake, but it's like Ryan Gosling is still, like, cracking jokes to, like, the alien and like.

[Rhiann Fran]

Yeah.

[Noah]

Which I enjoy. No, yeah, I enjoyed it. But it is still like in that Ted Lasso realm of humor where I'm. That's just not completely up my alley.

[Rhiann Fran]

It is. It is definitely more like family friendly than your average save the world space movie.

[Noah]

Yeah.

[Rhiann Fran]

You know?

[Noah]

Definitely. Although I will say, like, the. The visuals were insane. Yeah. It's crazy to watch.

[Rhiann Fran]

I think maybe. I think maybe Wednesday. Where's. When's the time? You know, And I keep checking, I keep refreshing my AMC app to try and go on imax because I'm like, every, every time I. I almost bought tickets Sunday just for like a regular showing. And then I was like, oh, do I hold out for imax? I don't know. But every time I check imax, there's nothing.

[Noah]

The thing that's nice with me is I live like, somewhat closer to the Lincoln.

[Co-host (possibly Fran's co-host)]

Yeah.

[Rhiann Fran]

Yeah. Right.

[Noah]

So I can like kind of hold outside.

[Rhiann Fran]

Yeah.

[Noah]

And like, although there are like, I'm telling you, just like, check. I mean, I went to the late. I went to the 11:30 or whatever.

[Rhiann Fran]

Yeah. I mean, I just, I can't. I can't do that.

[Noah]

Oh, yeah. I was walking out.

[Co-host (possibly Fran's co-host)]

You're walking out.

[Rhiann Fran]

3:00am yeah.

[Noah]

It was ridiculous.

[Co-host (possibly Fran's co-host)]

2:70 in the Midnight Owl.

[Rhiann Fran]

I know, but you had 20, 30

[Co-host (possibly Fran's co-host)]

minutes something previews before it even starts.

[Noah]

That's what I did with Sinners too. But there's something nice about, like, it's still a fully packed theater. It's like, look at all of us.

[Co-host (possibly Fran's co-host)]

Yeah.

[Noah]

11:30pm on a Monday night.

[Rhiann Fran]

Like, where's. Where, where'd you all come from?

[Noah]

No. Yeah, because like, my, like, I'll tell people. They're like, that's crazy. When a Monday night at 11:30. I'm like, there was a whole theater of us.

[Rhiann Fran]

I got the last.

[Co-host (possibly Fran's co-host)]

The only one.

[Rhiann Fran]

The whole theater was packed. I got the last ticket. It's like, where are all these People see, now I'm on the. I'm in the. I'm on the side. Now we're forgetting 11pm movie. I need to go to an 11am movie.

[Noah]

I. I like that too.

[Rhiann Fran]

Yeah. Like, I can't be doing 11pm anymore.

[Co-host (possibly Fran's co-host)]

I'm a 7pm Er. You know what I mean? I like to go to the. The. The usual movie time.

[Rhiann Fran]

That is the usual. And unfortunately, that's the most popular time

[Co-host (possibly Fran's co-host)]

that sells out the fastest.

[Rhiann Fran]

So when I'm trying to find an Amex, Amex and IMAX ticket, 7pm Those ones are sold out for weeks.

[Noah]

Yeah. But, yeah, great, great experience. And, like, I would want to see it again in imax because, like, I want to see it again imax, but I. I don't know if I'll ever watch it again on, like, tv. I mean, I will. If it was like, on, I would just watch it, but I'm not like, oh, I gotta re. Watch like. Like, when Sinners came out, I was like, I'm rewatching it a hundred times.

[Rhiann Fran]

Yeah.

[Noah]

But. So, yeah, B plus.

[Co-host (possibly Fran's co-host)]

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[Noah]

paradise. I'll give a B. Like, I actually didn't love this episode as much as I did. The. The first. The ones that sometimes it works. This one, I was like, oh, my God, what is going on?

[Rhiann Fran]

This worked so hard for me.

[Noah]

But, yeah, I'm. I guess I didn't know this was going to be the finale. So we'll see what happens. But I guess I'm happy that Jane is dead.

[Rhiann Fran]

Question mark.

[Noah]

I. Yeah, like if she's not dead, then. But.

[Rhiann Fran]

Well, it seems like they're. They're resurrecting dead people. I don't know. Like, it's.

[Noah]

I know. Part of me is like, you got throwing me off. Yeah. It's like, I would love to see James Martin back, but it's like you got to keep some people dead. Like, we thought his wife was dead.

[Rhiann Fran]

Yeah.

[Noah]

Smear like some miraculously she like survived. And it's like, that was cool. But yeah. I'm like, we gotta get. I'm pissed at this as a finale. I'm like, that's it.

[Rhiann Fran]

Like, I thought it was. I thought it was gonna be 10 episodes now.

[Noah]

It's gonna be like next season's. When we see everything.

[Rhiann Fran]

Like, I hope I'm right on that.

[Noah]

Is season three even, like half? I don't even know.

[Rhiann Fran]

I think. I'm pretty sure that that's. That Sterling Gay Brown has said that it's a three season show.

[Noah]

All right, good. But they gotta wait another year to see him reunite with people. I don't know.

[Rhiann Fran]

Let's see. Hulu's drama series paradise has been renewed for a third and final season. Yeah, the series which follows a three season three or arc. It was. It was designed that way, I guess is what they're saying. But season two total episodes,

[Noah]

eight episodes isn't enough.

[Rhiann Fran]

Paradise, what the hell's that?

[Noah]

Like the pit being like 15 episodes is like that. That's what a TV show should be.

[Co-host (possibly Fran's co-host)]

Remember we used to get. It used to be 20, 22 episodes.

[Noah]

They used to like crank the Disney

[Co-host (possibly Fran's co-host)]

channel popping out 22 episodes.

[Noah]

And they'd be every episode be like, Lost was like every year like doing insane shit. Now it's like, yeah, we're take five years off and. Yeah, like I don't care about it anymore.

[Rhiann Fran]

Like no one final episode is titled Exodus.

[Noah]

Like, I don't think anyone cares about Euphoria.

[Co-host (possibly Fran's co-host)]

No, you already has. Really?

[Noah]

They're like putting out the radio. Especially when it looks bad.

[Co-host (possibly Fran's co-host)]

Especially when the actors and actresses don't care.

[Rhiann Fran]

Yeah, well, that's what I was gonna say. Like when the cast seems to be putting in no effort to promote it. Why should we care?

[Co-host (possibly Fran's co-host)]

Zendaya wants nothing to do with this last love story.

[Noah]

I'm gonna give a D plus Like, I just.

[Co-host (possibly Fran's co-host)]

Me too.

[Rhiann Fran]

All I have to grade Love story.

[Noah]

From the beginning, I was kind of like, I don't know. But like the first couple, I was like, oh, this is cool. It's New York. It's like, people, true people that I like. I'm interested in the story. And then, I don't know, it just did feel like it is. You can be like, this is just a fictional thing, but at the end of the day, like, a lot of the reason why we're all, like, interested in this because it's not. Because it's real people. So it's hard to ignore, like, where it just feels like it is just, like, blatant, like, sensationalism, where it's like, well, we're just gonna use these people's names and then make up everything. And if I was in the family, I would be like, you're just, like, making up what happened on the plane where they died? Like, yeah, it felt weird. And it's like, yeah, Meryl Streep's daughter was great acting. And.

[Rhiann Fran]

Yeah, no, I know that was her. That was their biggest problem with the show in the first place.

[Noah]

But even, like, the story alone, like, the acting and like. Like, the if it's true or not aside, like, it just felt like they were fighting one episode, and now, like, we love each other and then we're fighting, and it's like, I almost feel

[Co-host (possibly Fran's co-host)]

like we could have gotten this episode without them showing.

[Rhiann Fran]

They didn't have to show them.

[Co-host (possibly Fran's co-host)]

I feel like they did not have to show that happening. And we could have got the general idea of what happened then.

[Noah]

That's true.

[Co-host (possibly Fran's co-host)]

To, like, we don't know what happened exactly. I feel like that would have played into it way more and would have been the best way to go about that. Instead, watching them, like, show a fake.

[Noah]

It didn't even do anything of what

[Co-host (possibly Fran's co-host)]

they were happening on the plane.

[Noah]

Like, he doesn't know what's happening.

[Co-host (possibly Fran's co-host)]

Yeah.

[Noah]

Could have.

[Co-host (possibly Fran's co-host)]

Could have gone without that and I think add anything. Yeah. Like, hey, we see them get on the plane and then we do not see anything after that.

[Noah]

No. When they show the plane, like, in the air, I'm like, okay. Like, that's how. Oh, no. Like, we're just going to, like, we're going to, like, climb to the front. Like, I. I don't know. But yeah, like, just bad. Overall, the pit, I'll give an A. Minus. Yeah. Like, I just. I, like. Like I said, Dana is probably my favorite character.

[Rhiann Fran]

Yeah.

[Noah]

By far. Great. And I, like, she's standing up to Robbie. I. I like that more people are standing up to Robbie because it is kind of like. I don't know. He's kind of like a Baby, a lot of the time. But how many we gotta have like, how many episodes we got? Oh, we got like three, I think. Yeah.

[Rhiann Fran]

I think this was episode 12.

[Noah]

That was 12. So we got three more, I think so. Excited to see where that goes. I watched the Peaky Binders movie, the Immortal Man.

[Co-host (possibly Fran's co-host)]

How was it?

[Noah]

It was good. And honestly, I was like, did I watch the final season? Because there was a time where I was watching and I'm like, all right. I don't know. Like, they went to America and I was like, I don't really care about this as much. So I couldn't even like fully remember. But this was just like a good self contained. Where it didn't feel like a huge movie where they're like, we gotta do a million different things. It felt like a long episode kind of, but it was all like wrapped in one. And Barry Kogan was good and I think they wrapped it up very well. And it's. Yeah. Cillian Murphy's amazing.

[Co-host (possibly Fran's co-host)]

It had been a while since the last season, right?

[Noah]

It's been like, I don't know, like at least a couple, three. Two to three years probably. But I think they like wrapped up in a great way. And it wasn't like the best thing I've ever seen, but I think it ended that story very well. I'll give it a B plus. Like, I thought it was really good. And it didn't like drag or anything.

[Co-host (possibly Fran's co-host)]

It was played well into the TV.

[Noah]

Yeah, it was like an hour and 40 or something. It's like seemed like a perfect amount of time. And then I watched the first two episodes last night of Something Bad is going to or Something very bad is going to happen.

[Co-host (possibly Fran's co-host)]

Yeah. The new Camilla Maroney Show.

[Noah]

Is it Maroney or Marone?

[Co-host (possibly Fran's co-host)]

I don't know.

[Noah]

I've always said Marone.

[Co-host (possibly Fran's co-host)]

I think it's because Michelle Maroney or Michael Maroney.

[Rhiann Fran]

Yeah.

[Co-host (possibly Fran's co-host)]

And then she might just be Marone.

[Noah]

Yeah, I always. Yeah. I don't know. But it's. And it's the guy from White Lotus. I don't forget which season.

[Co-host (possibly Fran's co-host)]

Adam DiMarco, who was in the Italian season of White Lotus the second season.

[Noah]

I'm like, interested in what's going on. It's like, it's horror. I feel like there was a movie called like Ready or Not. I think it was called that. This is kind of giving me similar vibes to where she's like getting married, but then the family that she's marrying into, like some weird shit's going on. And. Yeah, I'm interested to see where it goes. And I'll give it a B so far, but solid. It's entertaining.

[Co-host (possibly Fran's co-host)]

Yeah.

[Noah]

It's not like nothing so far has been like. Like a jump scare where I'm like, whoa.

[Rhiann Fran]

How many episodes did you watch?

[Noah]

I watched two, and I think. I don't even know how many episodes there are, but I think the whole season's out. So how many episodes are there?

[Rhiann Fran]

It's probably an eight. An eight episoder. That'd be my guess.

[Noah]

Eight. Yeah.

[Co-host (possibly Fran's co-host)]

Yep. So it's the standard these days.

[Rhiann Fran]

Nailed it. See this?

[Noah]

But eight here is good because, like, you release it all at once.

[Rhiann Fran]

Yeah.

[Noah]

It's kind of like a miniseries when it's eight, like, week to week. And you waited a whole year for this season. That seems like not enough. But. And she's really good, though. I think she's really good.

[Co-host (possibly Fran's co-host)]

She is a great actress.

[Rhiann Fran]

She is. So I think I gotta do a Daisy Jones rewatch.

[Noah]

I was like, thinking, like, that's the last time I've seen her.

[Co-host (possibly Fran's co-host)]

She's done a couple movies, but.

[Rhiann Fran]

Yeah.

[Noah]

Oh, she. Yeah. I don't know if I've seen.

[Rhiann Fran]

She's done a few, but I just loved her. I was like, I just loved her in that show.

[Noah]

Yeah. But that's all I got.

[Co-host (possibly Fran's co-host)]

All right, well, there's definitely things we gotta catch up on this week. A lot. I mean, the new. The new season of Jury Duty's out.

[Noah]

I really wanna watch that.

[Co-host (possibly Fran's co-host)]

I wanna watch that. So there's definitely things we gotta catch up on, and we'll look forward to that next Monday. We will not have an episode this Wednesday because our show in Boston's on Tuesday. I can't get the episode out on time for Wednesday, but we will have an episode on Friday, and that wraps it up. That wraps up today's episode of Ticks in the Office. If you're coming to the Boston show, don't forget your signs. We cannot wait to see you and meet you there. We love you guys so very much. Hopefully we get more statements and whatnot. And if you don't hear from us Wednesday, which you won't, you will hear a lot from us on Friday, so let's hope we get some more. All right, love you guys.

[Rhiann Fran]

Yeah.

[Co-host (possibly Fran's co-host)]

Chicks in the office.

[Noah]

Longtime listener, first time caller.

[Co-host (possibly Fran's co-host)]

Look at the charts. Who does it the best Two chicks getting paid in reality checks. You can find them at the gym. It's not even a flex. Last minute red carpet. Flew them out on the jet. Yeah, they're who you want to be they're always on your screen. Two queens and they might be spilling royalty A lot of times that are popping here to get into I know

[Noah]

a show that you probably want to listen to.

[Co-host (possibly Fran's co-host)]

Who turn the heat up? Turn the beat up Record the pod made a bag put their feet up the ones that leave no crumbs when they clean up who's the pod that they all want to meet up? Who turned the heat up? Turn the beat up Record the pod made a bag put their feet up the ones that leave no crumbs when they clean up who's the pod that

[Rhiann Fran]

they all want to meet up?

[Co-host (possibly Fran's co-host)]

Sa.