Amanda Batula & West Wilson Scandal Deep Dive

Summary

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Chicks in the Office: Amanda Batula & West Wilson Scandal Deep Dive

Podcast: Chicks in the Office (Barstool Sports)
Hosts: Ria and Fran
Date: April 2, 2026
Notable topics: Summer House scandal (Amanda Batula & West Wilson), pop culture news, show tours, Winter Games casting controversy, Olivia Rodrigo album, Bachelor producer tell-all, and Trivia.

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Episode Overview

This episode is anchored in deeply unpacking the jaw-dropping Summer House drama surrounding Amanda Batula and West Wilson's alleged romance, its impact on their friends and castmates, and the wider Bravo TV world. Ria and Fran fill listeners in on the full timeline, reactions from key players, and the swirling rumors. They also break down other buzzy entertainment headlines—like Olivia Rodrigo's new album, a Bachelor producer’s tell-all, and the controversial Winter Games cast—before closing with a signature game of pop culture trivia.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

Summer House Scandal: Amanda & West — Timeline, Reactions, and Fallout

Setting the Scene

• The Chicks explain the frenzy caused by Amanda and West’s joint statement about their relationship, emphasizing how this is Amanda’s second joint statement this year—leading to widespread speculation and confusion.
• The drama is accessible even to non-Summer House viewers, given its spillover into entertainment media.

The Timeline, The Statement, and What It Means

• [12:09] Joint statement by Amanda and West hits Instagram. Ria and Fran read and dissect it in full, critiquing its ambiguity:

  • “They really said nothing and a lot at the same time.” (Fran, 12:57)
  • “It says all I need to know…” (Ria, 15:56)

• The statement avoids naming anyone they've hurt (Sierra, Kyle) and ultimately provides no real clarity: Are they just friends? Are they exclusive? Did they hook up?

• Hosts agree Amanda’s actions toward her close friend Sierra (who has openly shared her feelings for West) are an act of betrayal:

  • “Amanda doing this to Ciara … is an act of betrayal. Like, you know, crossing that line with your girlfriend.” (Fran, 14:33)
  • “Somebody that my best friend … has hooked up with and had serious feelings for—never crossing the line. Off limits.” (Ria, 17:26)

Social Media, Backlash, and Cast Reactions

• Amanda's been receiving hate and even death threats online. The hosts firmly denounce this toxic behavior, but maintain that commentary about actions on reality TV is fair game.
• [28:17] Kyle was interviewed on the street—he’s focused on how many followers West is gaining, Amanda’s mental health, and his own future with the show, in that order.
  • “Kyle’s worried about his bag and then he’s like ... And then he throws in there. Carl’s a mess.” (Fran, 29:36)

Rumors and “Receipts”

• Multiple anonymous sources and unverified claims swirl about West’s other alleged romances (Chicago/Montana women, etc).
• [33:15] Notable: Reports of footage allegedly showing Amanda and West being intimate in West’s apartment—possibly obtained illegally.
• There’s talk of Amanda and Sierra sharing location info on their phones, which Sierra may have used to catch Amanda at West’s apartment.

The Betrayal of Friendship and Messy Male Behavior

• [45:03] “If somebody affects one of your best girlfriends that much, off limits. Doesn’t matter how long they dated.” (Fran)
• West is accused of John Tucker–esque behavior, dating and/or hooking up with multiple women in parallel (“Who gets the fucking watch who’s wearing the watch right now?” Re, 39:52)
• Ria and Fran speculate on the upcoming reunion: Will West stand up for Amanda, or retreat as he has in past group confrontations?

Impact on Mental Health

• Hosts underscore both Amanda and Ciara’s vulnerable emotional states due to the backlash and broken friendships.

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Media Reactions & Wider Consequences

• Dave Portnoy’s Involvement:

  • Dave Portnoy (Barstool founder) accidentally inserted himself in the drama by publicly revealing details he was told in confidence.
  • “If you are going to text him something, there is a chance he will read or post exactly what you said.” (Re, 07:28)

• Rihanna Unfollows Amanda / Celebrity Buzz:

  • [49:01] Big rumor: Rihanna is unfollowing Amanda and allegedly trying to set Ciara Miller up with Michael B. Jordan.
  • “I’m speechless. I could be brought to tears right now. That would be the best couple of all time.” (Fran, 49:11)

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Reality TV, Cast Dynamics & Season Anticipation

• The cast feels blindsided, and group trust has evaporated—many deny prior knowledge when asked directly.
• Amanda had recently done an interview praising Sierra as her most loyal friend, which adds another layer of betrayal.
• Bravo’s slow show-release pipeline is criticized; the fallout from Amanda and Kyle’s breakup won’t fully air until another Bravo series (“in the City”)—making it hard for fans to follow real-time developments.

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Other Entertainment News

Unwell Winter Games Cast Controversy

[55:53]

• The cast includes problematic figures, such as Dakota—despite public scandals.
• Fran and Ria sharply criticize Call Her Daddy’s Alex Cooper and her network for platforming those with questionable behavior without addressing it:
  • “Just promoting it in any normal way and not addressing it at all is weird to me.” (Re, 57:27)

Bachelor Producer Tell-All

[59:11]

• Julie LaPlaca’s forthcoming book promises behind-the-scenes “blurred lines” with Peter Weber.
  • “I don’t think Peter Weber is happy with this book.” (Fran, 60:51)
  • “Smart, smart. It’s gonna get people talking.” (Re, 61:22)

Olivia Rodrigo's New Album

[61:22]

• Olivia Rodrigo announced a new album for June 12th. It’s expected to be more cinematic, inspired by Lana Del Rey, and less “pop rock.”
  • “I am so excited for this ... Cannot wait for this. Love the album.” (Fran, 61:50)
  • “I don’t wanna make any rushed judgments—my first thought hearing that is like, not super pumped.” (Re, 62:29)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On the Amanda/West Statement:
  • “They really said nothing and a lot at the same time.” (Fran, 12:57)
• On Female Friendship Boundaries:
  • “Somebody that my best friend or one of my best friends has hooked up with and had serious feelings for—never crossing the line. Off limits immediately.” (Ria, 17:27)
  • “I can empathize with somebody falling in love unconventionally, obviously, but I cannot empathize with fucking one of your best girlfriend’s mans.” (Fran, 17:31)
• On the Show Timeline Chaos:
  • “Bravo. You gotta move faster. You can’t keep up with these kind of situations.” (Re, 41:04)
• On Internet Reactions:
  • “People get so attached in a way that they feel like it is happening to them directly.” (Fran, 18:15)
• On Rihanna-MBJ-Ciara Rumor:
  • “That would be the best couple of all time ... Just the thought of it.” (Fran, 49:11)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• [12:00–19:30] — Amanda & West’s statement: breakdown, reactions, discussion of betrayal, friendship codes
• [29:10–33:30] — Kyle stops for a street interview: his priorities, the follower count obsession, Amanda’s mental health
• [33:15–37:42] — Rumors of “evidence” (window video); speculation about who knew what, when
• [45:03–46:47] — “Off limits”: friendship boundaries, why the length of relationship doesn’t matter
• [49:01–50:56] — Rihanna unfollows Amanda and (allegedly) plots to set Ciara up with Michael B. Jordan
• [55:53–58:46] — Winter Games casting controversy: platforming problematic reality stars
• [59:11–61:22] — Bachelor producer releases tell-all book, Peter Weber’s “blurry lines”
• [61:22–62:39] — Olivia Rodrigo’s new album details and reactions

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Tone & Style Notes

Chicks in the Office keep things breezy, gossipy, and direct. They don’t mince words about friendship codes or call out problematic behavior, but always distinguish between fair commentary and unacceptable trolling. Humor and pop culture fluency mark their delivery (“It’s literally John Tucker.”), along with spicy sidebars (the Rihanna/MBJ rumor) and active engagement with fan gossip and Bravo’s slow show pipelines.

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Closing Segment: Trivia

[67:35–90:02]

• The episode wraps with an extended, spirited game of pop culture trivia, featuring fan guests, with questions ranging from Sex and the City to Addison Rae’s debut single to Dancing with the Stars winner factoids.

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Summary

This episode is essential listening for anyone following the Bravo-verse or invested in the real-life fallout from reality TV messes. Ria and Fran give a thorough, opinionated, and nuanced analysis of the Amanda/West/Sierra scandal—balancing empathy for mental health struggles with a firm stance on friendship boundaries—then hit other buzzy entertainment stories before closing with high-energy trivia.

Notable Quote to Sum it Up:
“If somebody affects one of your best girlfriends that much, off limits. Doesn’t matter how long they dated.” (Fran, 45:03)

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Transcript

[Re]

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[Re]

What's up everyone?

[Fran]

It's Chicks in the Office with Rhianne Fran giving you that Friday energy on a Friday. Happy Friday everybody. We are back. Sorry about the lack of episode on Wednesday. We were in Boston as we've explained before, logistically impossible to record. Then get the episode. Our team's got to get to the venue. It's a whole thing. So we wish we were able to put out an episode on Wednesday because of the news that dropped, yes, but unfortunately we couldn't make it happen. But we're going to talk all about it today and we are going to get into all of that messy drama. Unpack it all because more has been revealed. But first, this podcast is presented by Microsoft 365 Copilot. Before we get into all the messy little details, we need to talk about the thing that is keeping everyone's lives organized right now. And that is Microsoft 365 copilot.

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[Fran]

That is exactly right and you can learn [e-mail] M365Copilot welcome back everybody. It has been. Welcome, welcome, welcome, welcome to Elyria. It's been quite the week. And although we didn't have an episode on Wednesday when the Amanda and Wes joint statement dropped, we have had way more come out. So I'm actually glad that we can summarize the entire thing today because so many more detail have come out. Kyle had been stopped on the street. We have all that. We're gonna get into everything. But first, just wanna give a big thank you to the crowd in Boston who showed up and showed out because we had such an amazing show as always in Boston. It was really so much fun. And. And Arielle Kebbel, top tier guest. Top tier.

[Re]

She really was amazing and she just gave us that, that Friday energy going into the weekend. Make sure you guys are feeling good this weekend. Maybe you want to hit a little workout presented by Planet Fitness. Get that Friday energy flowing in you. Highly recommend. It'll make you feel great. And we felt great leaving Boston. We felt great in Boston. It was so much fun. We did the Wilbur, which we had never done before. Really cool theater, which was cool. Really cool theater, which was cool. I can't believe I was.

[Fran]

Tell us how cool it was.

[Re]

Can't believe I said cool twice like that. Just throw in a gruel.

[Fran]

It was, girl.

[Re]

Can't believe how cool it was, guys. But no, it was. We always stay kind of in the same area and it is close to some theaters and stuff. So it's just. It's fun, it's easy. I love Boston. When we got there, we had such a nice day. It was still. It was good. You had some nice temperatures. Walk around Newberry street, shop a little bit. It's gorgeous. Spring is just on the cusp up there. Came back to New York. The trees are starting to flower and all those things. It feels a little more spring here. Boston's probably a week or two behind us, but they're just, they're just right there.

[Fran]

They are. They're right there. Speaking of the shows, though, Trent will be our guest in Minneapolis, closing out the tour with our white elephant. Yeah, with the one we know best and we haven't seen him in a little bit.

[Re]

White elephant is a game. What's the big guest? White whale.

[Fran]

Our white whale.

[Re]

White whale.

[Fran]

I said white elephant. And I said that's Trent. No. Yeah, white whale. Yeah. He will be joining us and it's going to be so much fun. Just we have a lot to Catch up on with Trent.

[Re]

But seeing him. When was the last time we saw him? I'm drawing a blank.

[Fran]

I'm no joke. I think the last time I saw Trent was when we walked across the city with For Noah's.

[Guest 1]

Oh.

[Re]

And I wasn't there. Yeah, he did.

[Fran]

He didn't do a fall show.

[Re]

A fall show?

[Fran]

No.

[Re]

And he didn't do our Christmas show.

[Fran]

No, he didn't do our Christmas show. He couldn't make it.

[Re]

Is it possible I haven't seen him since our Christmas show in. At the end of 2020.

[Fran]

No, no. You saw him in June in a gun quit.

[Re]

Oh, yes.

[Fran]

When he. Here's the thing about Trent. He always brings something to the live show. He FaceTimed Noah Khan during our last. The last time he was a guest on the live show.

[Re]

You gotta bring something good.

[Fran]

Yeah. To the table. We didn't even ask him to do that. He was like, I have no economy.

[Re]

He had a prank.

[Fran]

Yeah. So maybe he'll FaceTime him again.

[Re]

I have no time. I have no account on the line.

[Fran]

Yes.

[Re]

Ready to go.

[Fran]

Ready to go. So that's super exciting. But yeah, Boston was a frickin blast like usual.

[Re]

Maybe we'll dip in some of that golf skin.

[Fran]

Should we ask them why are they. Why they're covering up Tiger Woods DUI on foreplay. Yeah.

[Re]

Buy tickets to Minneapolis.

[Fran]

Yeah. To find out more about what's going on behind the scenes of four play. But throughout all of this, the big topic was everyone wanting to know about Amanda and Wesley.

[Re]

Now here's the thing. I haven't been able to sleep.

[Fran]

If you don't watch Summer House, you might be confused about who these people are, but we will give you the full rundown. And I think even if you haven't watched Summer House at this point, like, listen, Dave, he was all of a sudden locked into this drama because he had tweeted that Brianna told him the super bowl and was like, this is old news. Yawn. And everyone was like, wait a second. He then texted Fran and I and was like, wait, is me saying that I knew the Super Bowl. Big deal. And we were like, extremely.

[Re]

Because you were like, am I providing important information? Yeah, you are.

[Fran]

You are now providing a timeline that people did not know about.

[Re]

Yeah. There was no timeline. And then everything was rumored. No, you're speaking in cold hard fact that Bri told you at the surround

[Fran]

February and breeze, like dementia. Dave, put your phone down. Like this is enough. So we were going back and forth with Dave because he was asking us so many details about the show. And he was like, wait, these people are married? And by the way, he kept calling it a timeshare, which was, they got

[Re]

a timeshare in the Hamptons.

[Fran]

Really, really cracking me up. So that was. That was a funny little tidbit of, like, I sent him, like, a rundown of basically how I can explain these people's relationships in his video. He's like, you know, Sierra's crying to Amanda. I'm like, oh, my God, this is literally what I typed out. And he's now trying to give people a rundown of what he knows had happened.

[Re]

It is something that we are very aware of with him, that you do have to know that if you are going to text him something, there is a chance he will read or post exactly what you said.

[Fran]

Man, he's screenshotting everyone's messages these days. When I clicked his story and I saw our group chat, I was like, dude, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But no, you have to be. You gotta be aware.

[Re]

You just gotta be aware. So we were like, okay, we're gonna. We'll fill him in and know that he may read this word for word, basically, to everybody. And, yeah, he's found himself in the. In the middle of this situation, which I don't think he thought was going to happen. When he sent out that tweet, I don't think he thought it was going to be such a big deal. And it was. He made multiple videos. Now he's ready to, like, make it a whole series.

[Fran]

He protected us.

[Re]

He's like, he's writing a gossip day.

[Fran]

No, literally, he's like, I'm going to do beach gossip. You guys might, like, have to tell me what's going on. We're like, well, we'll be your source.

[Re]

There's a couple. There's. There's a lot of reason. Reasons, I think, for that, you know, I think he potentially misses gossiping a

[Fran]

little bit on BFFs, I think so

[Re]

I think he misses getting off his takes on. On the pop culture world. And he's gone full Jimmy Buffett in. In the Keys.

[Fran]

Don't mention his looks.

[Re]

Yeah, don't mention. I know, I know.

[Fran]

Don't you dare mention. Or else he's not gonna do the beach gossip.

[Re]

The tan, the hair, the beard. So, you know, I won't say that he's looking like Tom Hanks in Castaway.

[Fran]

Don't say it.

[Re]

I didn't say it. I didn't say that he. I won't say that. That's what he looks like.

[Fran]

No, don't.

[Re]

But he, I think, you know, he's. It's like, it's getting everybody talking and everybody was like, why is Dave in the middle of this? And he, you know, he had the.

[Fran]

He.

[Re]

What's funny is he didn't even know he was sitting on this for two months.

[Fran]

No.

[Re]

Like, he thought he's been sitting on this for two months. He had no one to tell. And now he's like, oh, my God, I've known this for two months. Yeah.

[Fran]

I. I was texting with Brie about. We were. I was like cracking up. I was like, oh, my God. He's now just throwing your name out with other things as well. He was like, alex Earl, Bree told me Alex Earl and Tom Brady are dating.

[Re]

Yeah.

[Fran]

And then breeze commenting on the video like they are not dating. Stop, stop. Put your phone down. It was. It was really a funny little wrinkle in this. But we are going to get into the rest of the show and we're really going to do a full breakdown of their statement, what Kyle has said, more details that have been revealed on TMZ and the whole thing. So we'll talk about that. We'll talk about this new very highly suspicious unwell Winter Games cast, which I roll at. Olivia Rodrigo's new album is coming out June 12th. We finally got a date. Super excited about that. And then a producer that worked on the Bachelor is releasing a book, a tell all. And I think Peter Weber may be a little bit involved and I don't think he's happy about it.

[Re]

You know what? You'll always find him at the heart of it.

[Fran]

Pilot Pete.

[Re]

Pilot Pete.

[Fran]

At the center.

[Re]

At the center. Just when you think things get quiet for good old pile of Pete, he's just trying to fly his planes with his brother. He's just trying to live his life. And they're like, bam. Potential love situate, potential tries with a producer.

[Fran]

A little rendezvous. And we have a great game of trivia. So let's get into it. We mentioned having that Friday energy going into the weekend from our Boston show and just a great week ahead as well. And honestly, I'm excited to hit the gym this weekend. All right. Getting back into a routine. And you could do the same with Planet Fitness. Plant Fitness is a judgment free environment where you're free to get strong your way and on your time. Planet Fitness is so great because there are so many options when you step into a Planet Fitness, whether you're just looking to do cardio or you're looking for strength training, you want to get into weights. There's so many machines that are available to you. They're easy to use, especially if maybe you're just beginning your journey or you've been going for a while. It's all over. For beginning to expert level, they have it at Planet Fitness and most locations are open 24 hours, so. So if you're thinking of how to try and figure it into your schedule, there are 24 hours in the day for you to fit it in. With planet Fitness, it's $15 a month membership and we are all strong in this planet. So you can join today in club online or in the free PF app. Hours, amenities and others vary by club. Check out planetfitness.com or stop by your local club for more information. You must be 18 years old to enroll or 1317 with a parent or guardian. It's Tuesday afternoon. Everyone is waited.

[Re]

Picture this.

[Fran]

I picture this. Everyone's waiting with bated breath. Yeah. When will Amanda and Wes address these rumors about them potentially dating, hooking up?

[Re]

Will they even address.

[Fran]

Will they address it? Will they wait to the reunion. We're getting reports at the reunion films. April 14th or 15th. One of those days. A mere two weeks from now, will they speak up. Boom. Joint statement on both of their Instagram stories at the same exact time. And let me just say that's one too many joint statements for Amanda Betula in the year of 2026. Okay. We had just gotten a joint statement with her and Kyle back in January. Now we're getting joint statement with West.

[Re]

Too many we.

[Fran]

All of a sudden they've become a we. And now everyone's spiraling. When the fuck did they become a we? This has really jumped. We thought maybe they just kissed. Now they're. They're releasing a word salad mumbo jumbo statement of actually what the fuck did they even say in the statement?

[Re]

Because it wasn't very clear. They actually really said nothing.

[Fran]

They really said nothing and a lot at the same time.

[Re]

Yeah, it's a lot of words that really summarize to. We don't really know what we are or what we're doing. And that's really. That. That was kind of the whole statement. I'll read. We've seen the growing online speculation. So while this is still very new, we wanted to provide some clarity. They for our Biden. No clarity. It was never our intention to purposely hide anything. Given the complicated relationship dynamics involved and the scrutiny that comes with being on a reality show, we needed a little space to process things privately before speaking on it. We've shown it, we've shown up for each other as friends over the years through all the highs and lows and what's developed recently was the last thing either of us expected. Our connection grew out of a genuine long standing friendship which made it especially important for us to approach this with care. As our feelings evolved, we wanted to take time to understand exactly what we were feeling. We also recognize that this has an impact beyond just us and never wanted our actions to hurt, cause any hurt or be perceived as careless. We truly appreciate the understanding and respect as we navigate this. Nowhere in this statement is like maybe you, you like you're acknowledging the people that you, you're hurting people but maybe like we're so sorry to the people we hurt with our careless actions or any, anything of the sort.

[Fran]

There was no names that were thrown out like Amanda, Wes, Sierra, Kyle, like the four names involved. Yeah none were thrown into that statement. It also was a statement that didn't really clarify anything of are they dating? Did they just hook up? Like they're not. They didn't really give much context and

[Re]

then I don't think they know.

[Fran]

I don't think they know and I think it's very clear. We talked about this on Monday if you didn't hear our episode on Monday but our, our stance was very clear on this that Amanda doing this to Ciara who has been so open about her feelings is an act of betrayal. Like you know, crossing that line with your girlfriend.

[Re]

Yeah is, I know. And, and I know people are saying hey look this, you know, you better be in love, this better be true fucking love. Because then I was like okay, I guess. But it, it does not from the outside perceived to be that way yet. I don't know, maybe, maybe if they get through this, getting through this shitstorm is going to be extremely hard for, for, for both of them to be able to have a successful relationship afterwards. I think you need to have like a really already super deep foundation and love for each other that you are aware of and are, are clear and share with each other in order to get through something like this.

[Fran]

Yeah, they got to weather the storm

[Re]

together which I don't know if that is the case.

[Fran]

Right.

[Re]

I hope it is. Like I hope west is there for Amanda right now. I hope like it's like hey you guys did this to each like you guys did this to everybody else so you better at least stand behind each other.

[Fran]

Right.

[Re]

Because if you crumble this quickly and you're, you're already out.

[Fran]

Then it's like you lost friendships, you lost each other for not.

[Re]

And that's exactly the situation you're in. We were talking about it. To me, look, it says all I need to know. And I know there's like, the pylon on Amanda, and that's been talked about a lot in the last day or so as well. And it's like, okay, Sierra's feelings are at the front of this for everybody, and that should be the case. Like, I'm sorry. Right now, Amanda's feelings are an afterthought to me in this situation. I hear what people like, we'll talk about. Kyle was caught on the street, had the whole video. He's really concerned about Amanda and. And her mental health, which is so valid. And that, you know, it breaks my heart that she is getting, like, death threats over this. We are commenting on the social dynamic of doing something like this. Not sending her messages directly. Not, you know, cyberbullying is what the term Kyle used. But it's like, where the attacks on this person directly to them. It's just so crazy because everybody, you know, we commentate on reality tv and that's. It's. It's what everybody does on reality TV or on a reality TV show. People are gonna comment on your life and your choices. For us, it's like we had this conversation where no matter what, I don't care if there's a flirt here or flirt there, somebody that my best friend or one of my best friends has hooked up with and had serious feelings for never crossing the line.

[Fran]

Off limits.

[Re]

Off limits immediately. Like, it doesn't mean.

[Fran]

Like, it's not even a thought to even. That's why I don't understand. And I said this at our live show. I can empathize with somebody falling in love unconventionally, obviously, but I cannot empathize with fucking one of your best girlfriend's. Mans. Like, that is just not. That is just off the table. It's off limits. Exes, anybody. Like, that is just a no go for one of your good. One of your good girlfriends. I just can't, you know, I can't imagine that. So I think in, like, what you were saying. 100% sure. And I think any normal person can see that. Where it's like, yeah, people are on reality TV to put their life out there. Talk about it on podcasts, can talk about it on your forums, online, Reddit threads, whatever it is, or, you know, gossip with your friends, Right. Your group chats.

[Re]

Yeah. Put it in the Group, put it

[Fran]

in the group chat. Talk with your friends about it. Do not, like, send threats to the people that are involved, because that is obviously crossing a line that should be known by now. Like, any normal person knows that that is crossing a line. But obviously people get so attached in a way that they feel like it is happening to them directly and then, you know, it spreads that. So putting that aside, because that we all should know, you know, we're going to talk about the situation because it's on reality TV and they put their lives out there and that's, like, to be expected. Obviously, beside what we just talked about this situation, like, you know, saying that we didn't intend to hide anything. You did. You were hiding it and you did intend to hide. We.

[Re]

We did hide it.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Re]

Because we thought we were protecting everybody's feelings. That was wrong, right?

[Fran]

You could say. Yeah, we were hiding it because we knew that maybe this wasn't the best thing, which is wrong. And if they were, like, getting transparent, be more honest.

[Re]

If they were getting all out there.

[Fran]

Yeah. If they were getting, like, hard eyes for each other and stuff, like, you know, you gotta sit Sarah and Kyle down and be like, listen, we don't know what's happening here, and then be okay with the fact that you're gonna lose some friends with that. So this situation now, on top of that, Amanda and West aside,

[Re]

it has

[Fran]

now come out that west is fucking all of Manhattan, Montana, Chicago, every city.

[Re]

Yeah. I don't know.

[Fran]

Allegedly, like, I mean, this man got

[Re]

a girl in every area.

[Fran]

Ye.

[Guest 1]

I know.

[Fran]

It's insane.

[Re]

It really is a head scratcher. Because while none of that is confirmed, it's like seeing him put out a joint statement with Amanda and then have Page Six dumois, like, all these. These outlets basically say that he has been dating other people. And granted, he and Amanda, like, may not be exclusive. I don't know. They. I don't. They. They don't. Like, it's not like they came out and said, we're boyfriend and girlfriend now. Grant. There are other. Like, there are other sources I'm putting in quotes because everybody has a source in this situation. And every fan accounts pointing mess, like, posting messages. My. My sister's Botox person knows Amanda's PR late. Like, it's like, crazy. The connections that are. That are being thrown out there. But there's people being like, people. There's people being like, oh, they're. They're in love, like, ever. Like, they're. This is. This is the real deal for them. You're like, okay, show us that then, you know, like, if that's the case, then you're good and roll with it. Right.

[Fran]

And I just don't know if that's going to be the case because we're now getting.

[Re]

Other sources are saying it's not like, oh, oh, hey. I was in an elevator with him on St. Patrick's Day. He was with some brunette, like, getting off on the floor. He's. He's. There's. So I saw one thing that was like, he introduced Amanda to his family. St. Patrick's Day weekend. I was like, that guy was in Chicago, St. Patrick's Day weekend, like, out with friends.

[Fran]

And he had been apparently on and off exclusive with this woman. Mija.

[Re]

Yeah.

[Fran]

Who was originally from Montana, I believe, and she moved. And apparently this is like just a lot of hearsay, you know, sent it to Duma and other, you know, Instagrams that they had this on and off relationship where Wes would apparently be like, oh, I'm just with other people for, you know, the publicity. Like, really? You're my number one girl. Right. I'm with other people. And then apparently when he started dating Sierra, that was part of it. That, like, he was still seeing other people. And Sierra was like, no, that's not going to happen. Then there were reports that west and Sierra had been rekindling a little romance in the past couple of weeks. And here's the thing, like, Ciara could not have been more clear on this show. The boundaries that she has. And then most recently opening up on the show of the backlash and, you know, things that come her way. Dating white guys on reality tv.

[Re]

Yeah.

[Fran]

And there are things that we will never understand, you know, that she says being in her shoes is like, when this commentary comes her way.

[Re]

So, like, which just makes it extra careless from a man died. Yeah. It's like, truly, I think it's just extra careless listening to all these conversations. And all the timelines are so blurred right now. People are watching these episodes back of them and they're, you know, lingering touch and things. They're like, did it go back to the summer? Did it not? When did it start? I don't know. Was there flirtations here or there? And I just can't imagine. And I really hope it's not the case that Sierra's opening up about this, having these conversations in the summer, going through all these feelings and, like, Amanda and Wes are giving each other googly eyes across the table.

[Fran]

And just how Kyle mentioned Amanda's mental health. Because obviously, as we have stated many of times now sending somebody death threats and going that far is not okay. Ciara has also been extremely open about her mental health. And can you imagine how this is affecting her? Like, losing friendships and all of that as well is also probably taking a large toll on her mental health. So I just feel like there's so many layers to this. And. And on top of that, like, you know, a lot of this, the conversation was falling on like, yes, Amanda betrayed one of her best girls. And like, that is not okay. But now on top of that, west playing multiple different women at the same time adds a whole other layer to this that I think when we find out more, I'm just getting a sense that we're going to be even more shocked because there are too many reports of him with other women. Reports of him. I mean, we mentioned this. He was commenting on Ciara's picture two weeks ago.

[Re]

Holy frick.

[Fran]

Like that. That's weird to me if he was with Amanda at that time. So I just think this is extremely messy. And on top of that, mentioning how these two people. People are like, all right, if you're going to be together, then fudgeing, stand 10ft tall, being like, I love this person and yeah, I'm with them. I. I just going back to the past couple of reunions of thinking about West. He's always like, you know, crawling into a little hole, looking at the ground when he speaks. Never really like. He's very bold in other ways, maybe bold in his actions, but when it gets to the reunion and his defenses are not very bold. So I'm just kind of already crawling out of my skin thinking about the way he's gonna act at this reunion. If he stands up there and is like, you know what, like, loud and clear. I really love this girl and I can't help it. Da da da da da. But I just don't know because he just seems like the type that's gonna, like, crawl into a hole.

[Re]

I just don't know if he's ready to make that kind of commitment. It's from what we've seen and the dating and sort of, you know, seeing other people and all these things. And I. And here's the thing, we don't know what their timeline really is. They could have been flirting for a long time, but haven't actually hooked up till more recently, it seems. Most likely it starts as something where Amanda's single. She's looking for groups of friends in New York. She's going out again. She's finding Comfort in West. They're good friends. They're going out a couple times, getting a little drunk. They hook up. It's like, shoot, now what? Maybe it happens again and again and they catch feelings or it is what it is. That's hard for them to navigate because they were spotted so quickly. And, like, these rumors came, started to come out so fast, and they really weren't necessarily hiding it from people. It's like Dumois had multiple spottings, which we didn't believe. We were like, oh, they're being flirty. Like, they're like, Wes is like a flirty friend and whatever. But it all seems like it was pretty real at this point. In my mind, it's like, okay, that happens. I don't think they've really had any time to work through their feelings because Wes probably has been hooking up with other girls too. So it's like, oh, we're. It's casual. Like, we're seeing other. Like, we haven't. We haven't labeled it or anything. But now they're kind of being forced into labeling it because now the whole world knows. So I don't see him being ready in that situation. Amanda's been doing interviews this whole year of, you know, looking forward to dating and maybe dating somebody younger and not settling down and having some fun and praising Sierra as a friend. And she's so loyal and such a great friend. And she went on Jason Tartick's podcast, said she wouldn't touch any of her castmates. So it's just. I don't know if it's like something happened that's really more recently, and now it's just rapidly having to, like. It's rapidly having to be defined because now we're all like, well, what the

[Fran]

fuck are you, right? You know?

[Re]

Exactly.

[Fran]

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[Re]

You know, Kyle's throwing like a little, throwing a little shit on the fire. He did, he got, he was stopped on the street. It's a three part interview on TikTok. And you know, he's certainly throwing a little, little fire into the flame here by saying. Cause he was like, you know, what's the timeline? Do you know what the timeline is? He's like, I don't really know. Well, there's this like I was getting DMs going back to June, but like. And you're like, oh, okay. Like so I don't know, it's like, it's weird because at the same time his whole vibe was, you know, I've talked to Ciara, she seems to have a little bit more evidence than Kyle had is what it seemed like. His focus is really on West. He's concerned about Amanda. He said he's talked to Amanda, but his concern is. Is West.

[Fran]

His concern is how many followers west is gaining. Yeah, he mentioned that at least three times.

[Re]

Kyle really is so funny.

[Fran]

Well, this is the list of Kyle's concerns. Yeah. Number one, will they return to Summer House? Yeah. Number two, Wes's follower count. And number three, Amanda, in that order.

[Re]

He's like, wait, Wes has gained like 50,000 followers? Yeah.

[Fran]

He's like, I just don't understand, you know, a man is losing followers, people are cyber bullying her, but Wes is gaining followers. I'm with him. It is confusing that Wes is gaining followers, but the fact that he mentioned it three times, I'm like, Kyle, there's bigger issues here. Kyle's worried about his bag and then he's like. And then he throws in there. Carl's a mess. Poor Carl. Poor Carl. You know what?

[Re]

Carl probably is a mess.

[Fran]

He's probably like, oh my God, I got soft bar. I gotta pay for this shit.

[Re]

Yes.

[Fran]

Seriously, we need the show to continue.

[Re]

Yeah, I know. And like, like him also saying, I do feel like there's a lot of people in the Bravo world that maybe also just didn't follow west, but like follow demand already. And then they see scandal and they just want to see.

[Fran]

They just want to keep up if

[Re]

they want to keep up with any updates or if there's any posts or anything. I don't think anybody. I mean, I'm sure there's some people, but I don't think the majority of people are like, go West. I'm giving Him a follow. Like, I don't think that's where it's coming from. I think people are just so enamored by this sort of scandal that they're like, this is so juicy. I want to know what happens next. I want to see if they post anything or share anything. Sierra was on the carpet for your. The premiere of your friends and neighbors and talk about just a perfect post because she was on the carpet. She was doing interviews. The statement comes out Tuesday and Wednesday. She posts a video. Or was it Tuesday night?

[Fran]

Tuesday night.

[Re]

Tuesday night. She posts a video from the premiere. She's talking to the cast members she meets. She's meeting Jon Hamm. Jon Hamm's like, how are you? She's like, I'm good. And then she kind of looks in the camera, well, I've been better. And the caption was something like, if you can't trust your friends and neighbors, who can you trust? Perfect caption, perfect timing. The fact that it was promoting that show, like, it just really just perfectly made sense. And then Jon Hamm, when I watched Rabbit's life, he was like, obviously, team Sierra, like, Jon Hamm loves all the Bravo drama. So I don't know. I. Like I said, I think our biggest concern should be how Sierra is feeling through all this and making sure that she is supported and feels the love. That doesn't mean we have to destroy, like, personally go after Amanda. Yeah, but we can. How about all the. All that pent up anger and frustration that people have at viewers. Throw it in positivity.

[Fran]

Yeah, we can show love to Sierra,

[Re]

you know, like, so that's. I think that's the best way to go about. Like, once again, you're. We're talking about it. Like, you can talk about it and there's discourse and there's social media discourse and it's messy and talk about it with your friends. But, like, the direct hate messages are always bad. I mean, we saw this.

[Fran]

And listen, by the way, the. The comparison to Scannable, like, I don't see it as. No. And like, as we've talked about, like, as far as we know, there wasn't cheating. Now does it seem like Wes was. I don't know at this point. But in terms of, like, remember when, like, you know, everyone was coming after Tom and Raquel, obviously. But then it became like, okay, well, you know, now Raquel has to enter, like, a facility. And then we never saw her ever again. And then Tom goes on traitors and

[Re]

like, kind of goes on every show again. The memes Being like. So I think this means Kyle Cooke gets to be Roxie Hart.

[Fran]

Oh, my God. Kyle gets to go on Dancing with the Stars and be Roxie Hart, which,

[Re]

like, really kind of made me get, like, maybe.

[Fran]

Yeah. So on top of all of that, when Kyle said, I think Ciara had, you know, more hardcore evidence.

[Re]

Yeah.

[Fran]

TMZ just reported that sources have told them that there is allegedly picture or video of Amanda and Wes being intimate in Wes's apartment through his window that neither of them knew was happening.

[Re]

It's giving me the heat. No, no, I know. Like, I mean, neither of them knew

[Fran]

they were being recorded. Yeah. Which is, I believe, illegal.

[Re]

No, I. I believe.

[Fran]

Right. Because paparazzi. That's why I'm confused, because it's like paparazzi has taken pictures of people. You know, that's what I'm. It is a league. I'm pretty sure it's illegal to be taking photographs of people through their windows.

[Re]

Pretty sure that's just illegal. No, it's like a peeping Tom situation.

[Fran]

I'm pretty sure that's illegal if people are being intimate. And, like, you're taking pictures through their windows. Like, that's illegal if they're. Yes, yes.

[Re]

I think about. I think back to the Aaron Andrews case.

[Fran]

Yes.

[Re]

Yes. What?

[Fran]

But I'm thinking about, like, remember when Justin Bieber was, like, photographed nude on his balcony?

[Re]

Yeah.

[Fran]

And those paparazzi pictures came out.

[Re]

Like, where. Where. What are the.

[Fran]

What are those. And regulations when it comes to that stuff. You know, obviously, I think it's weird regardless, but I'm like, what's the. You know. But I. You know, besides that just being insane that someone was taking pictures through the window.

[Re]

It's a complex legal issue.

[Fran]

That's what it sounds like. It sounds like it's complex because we have seen paparazzi pictures of people, like, naked.

[Re]

Filming someone inside their own apartment through a window is a complex legal issue. That depends on where you are standing, what you are filming, and your intent. Okay, so there's a peeping Tom and voyeurism laws. Most are addictions to. Jurisdictions have criminal laws against peeping. It is a crime to surreptitiously record someone who is undressing or in a private room, like a bathroom or bedroom for sexual gratification or harassment. So there's a. I mean, we don't know what the video is.

[Fran]

We don't know what.

[Re]

Like, what's. But that sounds like something that sounds illegal sort of in that category, which would make sense. Why the video also, any Sort of like you want to prove, like, harassment or stalking or anything like that.

[Fran]

Yeah, yeah. No, that. It's definitely very bizarre. I'm just thinking about Sierra finding out in that way. Right. All of a sudden, Sierra is being shown a video of these two, and it's like, oh, my God. Like that just like, heart drop in your stomach.

[Re]

Yeah.

[Fran]

The whole legal situation of it all is a whole other separate, you know, situation. That seems insane, but that seems like maybe what Kyle was referring to when he was talking about, like, hard evidence.

[Re]

Yeah.

[Fran]

And then on top of that, there was more about how maybe someone was saying. And everything is. He said, she said, whatever. But apparently Amanda had Sierra's location and Sierra had her location. And Sierra one day checked Amanda's location and saw that she was at Wes's apartment, like, early in the morning and thought that was suspicious. Yeah. And had asked Amanda why. And, you know, Amanda was like, oh, we're just friends, you know, that whole thing. So it. I don't know if they were super upfront with Sierra. It seems like they weren't. It seems like Sierra was very taken off guard by this.

[Re]

And that's how the whole cast is feeling, too. Right. They're basically saying, like, they've all. They've heard the rumors. They didn't have. They didn't know 100. They were denying it to people.

[Fran]

People think Jesse knew. I do not think Jesse knew.

[Re]

I don't. Jesse. You see that comment?

[Fran]

Yeah. He wrote back.

[Re]

Somebody like, I had at. Like, I asked them and what.

[Fran]

You know, they denied it. I believe him. I think that they denied it to everybody. Yeah. And.

[Re]

Yeah. Then I think that everyone had their. Maybe, like, their suspicions, but it's hard to say, oh, my God. Yeah, they're hooking up. When you're going to the two people and they're like, no, we're not. Or whatever. You know, whatever was happening, if they were trying to keep it a secret as. As long as possible, it's just funky to me because it's like, oh, you want to keep it a secret from them? And I. These friendship dynamics are all. It's all really interesting when you're on reality tv because, yes, they all film in a house. They're together for these weeks in the summer. They're. They are close. They have these friendships. But, like, real life, a lot of them probably wouldn't be like, these are actually my real life best friends, you know?

[Fran]

Yes.

[Re]

But it's like Sierra and Amanda. If you try and tell me those two, like, if I don't believe you. You want to hit me with, oh, like, they weren't really that close. I'm just not gonna believe you then, ever. Then you're just lying to everybody, which is bullshit. That would be the way.

[Fran]

Weird.

[Re]

Like, it's just bullshit if you're like, these are my best friends, and you're lying. I think for somebody maybe. I don't know. I think coming in with the dynamics. And Kyle was saying this in his video, too. He's like, you know, I don't think people realize how close me and Wes were and traveling together and being with his family. And I'm like, yeah, all those things are definitely true. But it is so interesting to find out that they were probably lying to most of their castmates because they didn't want this to come out. But certainly friends in their circle knew they were hooking up. And look what happened with Bri telling David in February. Like, it's like. Like, clearly there were some people that were out with them or in, like, out with them in New York and all these things and probably had some idea of what was going on. They just didn't want their castmates to find out.

[Fran]

But also on top of that, like, Amanda had just done an interview with Marie Claire, naming Sierra as one of her most loyal friends, and was like, sierra sends me text messages randomly like. Like, to remind me how strong and powerful I am, and I don't think she realizes how much that means to me and how much I need it. And it's like, that was last month. That interview was last month where you are calling Sierra one of your most loyal friends and how much she means to you. So, yeah, you can't give me the. That you guys weren't that close of friends after this, because I. I'm not gonna buy that.

[Re]

Yeah.

[Fran]

Weston, Kyle. I don't know how close they really are, you know, how. How good of friends they really were.

[Re]

They'll. They'll be telling different stories because Kyle, they'll definitely be telling different stories when they saw, like, maybe at the reunion or whatever. But my problem specifically with Wes is

[Fran]

him playing multiple women.

[Re]

It seems to be the case. Multiple women. And I don't know, it's like, God, my God, are all these women following. Falling for West Charms? It really feels that way. Because if Wes is like, yeah, I've been dating all these women, but I haven't, like, told any of them. We're like, boyfriend, girlfriend.

[Fran]

It's like, literally, John Tucker.

[Re]

It's crazy. It really is. Who gets the fucking watch who's wearing the watch right now. I think Amanda, I think.

[Fran]

I, I don't know. Apparently she got invited to weddings and stuff. Who knows?

[Re]

I mean, it's, it really, it really is crazy. But I, I just, I laughed a little only because this is so Kyle. There has been so much that has happened and in the, this video of him on the street, he's like so focused on the things Kai, that West is saying in his confessionals about Kyle. Like he's like, you know, west said like my gift is like a wolf of Wall street gift. Like when, when he was like hooking up with a hooker. Like he's stuck on these little things with him and west, which I totally understand. But it's so, and it puts it all in perspective that it's so crazy that we're still watching the end of this season and we're dealing with so much west and Sierra at the end of this season and they filmed a whole ass other show called in the City where we're gonna see Amanda and Kyle fully break up. We're gonna watch that all happen. And that's a whole other show that still has to come out, which is so crazy and really goes to show like Bravo. You gotta move faster. You can't keep up with these kind of situations. When we have two shows that now one show needs to finish, another show fully needs to come out before we even sniff the west and Amanda stuff. And my God, I don't think that any of them are gonna wanna come back to Summerhouse. Although Kyle did say he would. He's single now and he would go back to obviously.

[Fran]

Obviously, without a doubt. Here's the thing. Throw the in the City show in the garbage because none of us really want to watch that now because we know who gives a shit now about Kyle and Amanda's divorce? I don't care. Here's the problem. Kyle Cook, he's going to get me on his side soon because when he did this interview, I was like, this is the most likable Kyle has come across in a long time.

[Re]

Well, that is true. And this is.

[Fran]

And Kyle's eating that up. And I'm not falling for it.

[Re]

Let me tell you. Kyle is on a. Kyle's on an hour long convo with publicist Lindsey Hubbard every night. He knows this is what you're gonna have to do.

[Fran]

He knows what he's doing. Because Kyle, we cannot take. We cannot take away the fact that Kyle was a shitty ass husband, okay? And literally emotionally abused Amanda, calling her a dumb ass bitch. Fuck you all those things and it's

[Re]

only gonna be worse, I think in the city.

[Fran]

Yeah, I think it gets worse. And you know, he was a bad husband and there were multiple counts of him possibly cheating on Amanda in the past. Well, he definitely cheated on her before they got married. While they were married.

[Re]

I don't know.

[Fran]

Rumors were swirling the whole thing. He's gonna come out unscathed of this reunion because he was gonna have to answer for his actions of his marriage. But now at this point, he's like, he's probably dancing around. And I watched this interview with Kyle. I said, kyle, I hate that I'm liking your answers. And the fact that he was making me laugh with how concerned he was about Wes's follower count.

[Re]

I know, like, he kept coming back to it.

[Fran]

He was like. And I just don't get why he's. He's like, why is my follower count not going up? People aren't concerned about me. I was like, oh my God. And then on top of that, just. We're worried about Carl, you know, just hoping Carl's all right.

[Re]

Just. Yeah, I know. It's really. It really was. And the reunion is gonna be so tricky to navigate because it's like everyone's just gonna want to talk about the west and Amanda stuff, but they're gonna have to circle back to the stuff on the season. And Amanda's probably going to really hit home on how bad things were with Kyle because sure, for sure you're gonna want to convince people that it was so bad with Kyle that it like almost drove her into west arms, basically, which could very much be the case. It's not like, that's not possible. And we saw it all happen. I think Amanda got sucked into this situation of she's been in a relationship for 10 plus years. I think no one is more had been more defeated and beat down than Amanda was in that relationship. I think her self worth was at an all time low. I think she had been with Kyle for so long and no matter how much the public was like, don't worry, we'll support you if you leave him. I think she was so afraid of what that would be like. And it, like, it just immediately when that happens, it's like sometimes you fall into someone that's so familiar to you and that happened to be west, which is just, it's. I don't know. I think that's gonna be such a regret for her where when she's able to step out of it a little bit, it's like, oh, that was really the biggest mistake I could have made. And I know everyone's saying, saying it, but it was all gonna be going pretty well for Amanda. She was gonna get the deal, she was gonna get the shows, all these things and it was probably only gonna get better because of watching her actually leave Kyle and in the city I think it would have like, people would have been rooting for her even more and the opportunities would have come flooding in and she went to the one fucking guy in the whole goddamn world she could not hook up with.

[Fran]

I almost think people would have even supported her if she ended up with Carl.

[Re]

No, truly, I think if she ended

[Fran]

up with Kyle's best friend.

[Re]

Yeah.

[Fran]

I think people would have been like, well, Carl's really sweet and he knows that.

[Re]

Like no, I, I think it was

[Fran]

just like, I know like your girls, man, and you know, don't like people. Like don't give me the. Oh, Wes and Sierra didn't date for that long. Wes broke Sierra's heart. Okay. If somebody affects one of your best girlfriends that much, off limits. Just off limits. Doesn't matter how long they dated, 100%. On top of that, we are actively seeing in this season west play around with Ciara again.

[Re]

Totally.

[Fran]

We are seeing him flirt with Ciara. I think more happens towards the end of this season. And then if you add on to the fact that I don't know how true this is that they had like maybe been trying to rekindle something in the past couple weeks, who knows? Don't give me that. They didn't date for that long because it was the, it was about how

[Re]

it was how he made her feel,

[Fran]

about how he made her feel and affected her.

[Re]

Affected her.

[Fran]

He severely lowered her self esteem at points. It wasn't about how long they dated.

[Re]

I think also I think there's, I think that's so relatable for a lot of women out there who have had situationships or been strung along by a guy or you know, you were really caught up on somebody, maybe you dated for a short amount of time but like you were so in it. He wasn't that your friends know that guy's off limits.

[Fran]

But to me it's even like if you were to like kiss a guy one night, like whatever, and the guy was a huge asshole to you and said really mean things to you and then you told your friends like that guy was a huge asshole to me. He said your friends then would not hook up with that guy. Like if one of my friends started dating or hooking up with someone who was actively mean to me or treated me a certain way, I'd be like, wait, so you just, like, don't respect.

[Re]

Yeah.

[Fran]

Me that you're. That he made me feel a certain way about myself. You know, it's like. It's almost like when your friends are friends of people who are fudgeing dicks. You know, it's like that sort of thing. So, you know, this whole thing is very, very messy. And I'm sure. I know we will get more at the reunion because, like, the stuff that started coming out and Kyle, like, about Wes dating multiple people, I think really muddies this even more.

[Re]

Yeah. Yeah, I will say because those other

[Fran]

girls are now hurt as well.

[Re]

Yeah. If you didn't see there was multiple, like, Duma posted a bunch of stories that were all people claiming to know somebody is obviously all alleged people claiming to know someone that's dating west or that my friend was seeing. My friend's friend. Sister was seeing west or the girl in Montana had thought that was dating west. Some of Chicago, I like you said, all over the place. And it really did seem like he and Sierra got to a good place in. In the last, like, few months. And he had been saying that in the press and Sierra had been saying that in the press that it finally felt like they were getting their friendship back a little bit. And we saw them at the super bowl together looking like they were having fun. Amanda, meanwhile, Bree's telling Dave he's hooking up with Amanda.

[Fran]

Amanda, Sierra were on watch what happens live right before this or right after the super bowl? Right before. It was definitely, like, in between those days and Andy asking Sierra questions about Wes and she was answering like, like, his butt looks cute in pants. And, yeah, you know how great his parents are. And Amanda's sitting there, like, you know, answering for Sierra as well. Like, it's. It's. It's weird. But, yeah, we will find out more. And they're recording. Andy said that they are filming the reunion and he's got a lot of questions and he said he feels for Sierra and all of that. So looking forward to the reunion. I know because I think the. The whole rest of the season now, people are like, yeah, this.

[Noah]

This duma post that was posted 15 minutes ago is basically saying that Rihanna's trying to set Sierra Miller and Michael B. Jordan up and that Michael B. Jordan's very interested.

[Fran]

Oh, my God. Oh, my God. I literally just got chills. I just got smiley. I just got full body chills.

[Re]

I mean, I have full Body chills. We did forget that Rihanna. Rihanna unfollowed Amanda, which is a tough unfollow.

[Fran]

That's a tough unfollow. But I don't care about that. I care about the fact that Ciara Miller. Ciara Miller and Michael B. Jordan could potentially be set up by Rihanna. I'm speechless. I could be brought to tears right now. That would be the best couple of all time. That couple to me. Oh, wow. And the fact that it's set up by Rihanna. Is this true? I don't even care. I don't even care. Just the thought of it.

[Re]

I was still talking.

[Fran]

It's like a movie.

[Re]

People are talking about the TMZ thing of that. Like, Amanda had texted Ciara Monday afternoon saying she never meant to hurt her. And then Ciara gotten a heads up that they were gonna put a statement out and that Amanda said she wanted to sort her feelings about Wes before discussing the romance with her friend. Which is like, objectively so crazy. When we saw this dynamic, like happen with Jesse and the like Jesse wanting to hook up with Sierra and like going to west about it and being weird and then them all not knowing how to talk about it or Sarah, why wouldn't you talk to me?

[Fran]

I can't even listen to a word you're saying. I'm thinking I'm literally envisioning Sierra and Michael B. Jordan.

[Re]

I mean, it's. That would.

[Fran]

Yeah, here's the thing. If they end up together, it's like, you know, thank you to the universe for this happening.

[Re]

Oh, my God, please. No, I mean, it's, it's. It's anonymous. We have no clue. Someone could have made this up. We have no idea. Friend has been close to Sierra for a few years now. Rihanna was not happy with what happened, unfollowed Amanda, etc. And has now decided to play matchmaker for Ciara. She's been dming her and a very prominent a list actor who just won an award is apparently very interested.

[Fran]

Can you imagine Rihanna and asap Rocky at home just like shaking their head at Amanda and Wes being like, I can't fucking believe this happened. We got to set Sierra up with Michael.

[Re]

That would be unreal.

[Fran]

That would be unbelievable.

[Noah]

Circles. Now she's interviewing all those people I know.

[Re]

And not to. Not to like be weird about the following stuff. But I did go to see yesterday if she followed Sierra and she didn't.

[Fran]

Maybe she's trying to keep it. Okay.

[Re]

She still doesn't follow Sierra, which is keeping it dming Sierra, but she didn't hit her with a follow.

[Fran]

That's a good question.

[Re]

Like, you would think if you're so upset by this scandal, you're. You're hitting Sarah with a follow if

[Noah]

she's not trying to make it, like, headline news. If she unfollowed Amanda and then followed Sierra.

[Re]

Well, she already unfollowed Amanda.

[Fran]

And everybody knows people were speculating that she unfollowed Amanda a while ago, though, because.

[Re]

Oh, you think Because Amanda had talked

[Fran]

about Rihanna DMing her and Amanda, like, not answering right away, which was bizarre.

[Re]

Oh, right, right, right, right, right.

[Fran]

Remember?

[Re]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Fran]

So you gotta. You gotta answer that within the hour of seeing it. You know, maybe not right away.

[Noah]

You gotta let it breathe. Yeah.

[Fran]

But you gotta answer it like. Yeah, yeah.

[Re]

Now, there was a crazy, crazy days and crazy Daisy nights blind from, like, June of 2025 that claimed, you know, some. Some basically saying someone in the summer house was cheating on their significant other.

[Fran]

Yeah. People said that they think it's Amanda,

[Re]

which really people were holding on to as well. But I. It's just too. It's. There's. Right now, there's too many rumors. There's too many timelines. There's too many. My friend's brother's cousins, hairdresser said that they saw this. Like, we. We. We need to hear from the horse's mouth now. We need to sit down at the reunion. We got to hear what these guys have to say because we're all going to be speculating and it's all speculation until then or until one of them sits down. I'm sure Bravo's not going to let them do any press until after the reunion. That would be crazy. They'll save this all for the reunion. And I got to say, watching Tuesday night Summerhouse, weird experience, like, weird feeling, like watching the episode while this is all going on and then, like, seeing the preview and you're like, ooh, we have a bunch more episodes of this. And I am also very just logistically interested in the. In the Kyle and Amanda not being legally separated yet, like, not being divorced and what that means for them and how this is gonna go. And where is he at with Loverboy? Cause it's seemingly not good. And my God, is he probably dying to figure out how to help this, how to use this to help lover boy in some way. The Loverboy Instagram account posted these graphics, how to support Loverboy. And there's multiple slides. It says, we see the comments, we see the DMs, we see the marketing videos, we hear you loud and clear. You want new products and new campaigns. The only problem is, and it's a picture of Kyle with the Patrick meme. I have $3.

[Fran]

Listen, people gotta get out there and

[Re]

you know, yeah, and this is a boots on the ground campaign here. But yeah, they're just, you know, they posted the whole graphic on, on having people support them. Which is funny because I'm like, think let's support Sierra before we jump on this, on this train, you know.

[Fran]

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[Re]

I think she like publicly claimed it wasn't true but I don't know what happened. I don't really know what that does.

[Fran]

But I'm so confused. Why this person.

[Re]

Look, we were confused in general. This is something that they've already filmed. The way it was announced was confusing. We had no idea what this show was, but, like, it was like, all of a sudden we just saw pictures of all these people that were going to be on a show, but just

[Fran]

how the Bachelorette was already filmed and then not put out there because of Taylor, Frankie, Paul. It's kind of the same thing. Like, why are we having Dakota on a show and platforming it complet.

[Re]

Completely agree. I think it's really bizarre.

[Fran]

I don't think Taylor or Dakota should be on any shows.

[Re]

I completely agree. I think. I think it's really, really weird and like, sketchy behavior. I don't get it. I don't. I don't know how you can be the. Or want to be like the. Go to outlet for people to sit down and tell their stories and tell their hardships, and people open up on crazy things that happen in their lives. To Alex Cooper on Call Her Daddy. Abuse that they've dealt with in their lives, trauma, all these really intense things that they share with her. And we literally just watched Jesse talk to her about her relationship with Jordan and the blackmail and all these crazy things. And they're talking about Taylor, Frankie, Paul getting her. Her season canceled and all this. And then it's like, oh, watch my juicy reality show with all these problematic people. This should be so fun. And. And like, just promoting it in any normal way and not addressing it at all is weird to me. Like, not being like, hey, at least something of like, hey, we filmed this months ago. Blah, blah, blah. I don't know. Do the. Just not talking about it all and being like, this show's crazy. Everyone's gotta watch. You're like, really eyebrow raising.

[Fran]

I'm so with you. Like, there wasn't even any sort of warning, like, any. Anything at all. Like, hey, you know, we put. And that's the Alex Cooper way, though. She doesn't address anything ever. Like, it's just like, ever. Like, there's never any addressing of any sort, which, whatever. But it's. It's like you're gonna put out this show. You know, people are gonna have something to say about the cast members, and you're just gonna completely ignore it and just like, just continue to put out the show and not even make a statement about, like, hey, we know that people are, like, upset with some of the cast members. We filmed this a while ago. We're still gonna Put it out.

[Re]

Yeah.

[Fran]

You know, she's not a part of a huge network. It's her own network, so she can really do whatever she wants if she wants to still. But. But, like, just saying nothing is just wacky to me. It's just wacky. I. It's bad taste in my mouth about. About this one.

[Re]

Yeah. It's just really, really unfortunate to see some of these people. And it's just like, when I saw Dakota Square on the cast announcement was

[Fran]

like, no immediate reaction of like, oh, no, no, no, no, no.

[Re]

We don't need to put. I'm like, how do our sweet Joe and Serena get roped into this?

[Fran]

Joe and Serena on this cast are such outliers that I'm like, Joe, Serena, what are you doing?

[Re]

I know.

[Fran]

What are you doing? No, it is crazy. It's very wild. Moving on to more of reality TV talk, a Bachelor producer who had worked on multiple seasons is now coming out with a book about her, you know, experience working on the shows and how there was a little bit of a lines blurred situation with Peter Weber. So the producer is Julie Laplaca or Laplaca, and her book is the Love Producer. And she admitted in this book that she was more vulnerable with Weber than her own boyfriend at the time. And I don't know if you guys. I don't know if you guys recall, but during Peter's season, there was a rumor, rumor that Peter was going to, you know, end things with Hannah Ann, endings with Maddie, and then just run off with the producer from his show. Everyone was like, wait, what? That seems. That's out of left field. Apparently not so out of left field with Julie's book coming out. She has stated that I don't think Peter Weber is happy with this book, but there's a lot of background information on past seasons that she's worked on. And reality TV doesn't always air the full reality. And it was neither confirmed or denied about the producer at the time with Peter. So this is going to be extremely interesting. And she does mention multiple times that lines were blurred. So I'm sure that at one point, from what I'm picking up on this book is that she got. They got really close. They instantly became really good friends. And then at some point, maybe, you know, they were together on New Year's Eve at one point and people had speculated they, you know, had a New Year's kiss that was denied at the time. And she said that she is going to reveal all in this book about what was going on behind the scenes.

[Re]

Let me tell you. Great story to put out to the press to get people to buy this book. Because I don't know, immediately I was interested. I don't know if this really interests that many people until they see this story and they're like, wait a second. So this is the excerpt that they're putting out to the press to get people interested for the book. Smart, smart. It's gonna get people talking. Once again, we find our Peter Webber in the. In the midst of some sort of love situation. You never know what that guy is up to.

[Fran]

You never know behind the scenes. So I'm interested in that. And then, last topic. Olivia Rodrigo announced her new album is coming out June 12th. And it's. You seem pretty sad for a girl who's so in love. I love Olivia Rodrigo's music. I loved her past two albums. So I am so excited for this. And it's coming way sooner than I had expected. I was thinking maybe end of summer fall, but we are getting a June 12, so. Cannot wait for this. Love the album.

[Re]

I keep forgetting that it's like April, right? Because when I saw June 12, I was like, oh, that feels far away. It's not that far away.

[Fran]

It's not far away. We're gonna get like a summer album from Olivia, which.

[Re]

Although it's sad, but there.

[Fran]

It will be sad, but I'm sure there will be some bops. Sad bops. Which do exist.

[Re]

They do.

[Fran]

And I. I love the marketing she's been doing for it as well. So super excited for this. Cannot wait.

[Noah]

She did say it's gonna sound a lot different than her first two albums. That's gonna be more cinematic and less rock. And then it's gonna be like that. It was inspired by Lana Del Rey a lot.

[Fran]

Oh, okay. So I could see some maybe like. Maybe some ballads in there. Which she is. She is really good at.

[Re]

I don't wanna make any rushed judgments. Cause my first thought hearing that is like, not super pumped.

[Noah]

I'm kind of excited, to be honest.

[Fran]

I'm excited.

[Re]

But I don't know, maybe not. Or maybe that'll change. To hear a sound I just like. I think it's. Anytime you really like something or really like a sound. I love those first two albums.

[Fran]

But like, Vampire is not like a poppy boppy dance around. But it's a fucking amazing song. So it could be.

[Noah]

It does have like the second half of it, I feel like.

[Re]

Yeah, it's way more.

[Fran]

Right.

[Re]

It's way nice. Not Lana Del Rey.

[Fran]

No, no. But you get what I'm saying it's not like, Dance Around Pop.

[Re]

No, no, I'm excited. That'll be interesting, though. We got some good new music coming out. Niall's got a new album coming out too. I'm very excited for. I'm just sucker for Niall.

[Fran]

He doesn't really. He doesn't move the needle. No, I know.

[Re]

That was for me. That was for me. I'm excited for that one. They actually. I watched a really funny video of him on Jimmy Kimmel, and there's a girl that worked for Jimmy Kimmel that was. That's like a. You know, either One Direction or Niall specifically super fan. And they played a game of, like, who knows Niall better? And she knew everything about him, but she was, like, cute. It was very much. I felt like she was my kindred spirit. I felt a connection to her being put in that situation because she was like, I swear to God, I'm normal. I swear to God I'm normal. She was looking at Jimmy like, I really hope I get to keep my show. Because Jimmy Skimbell's like, when did Niall get his braces off? And Niall's like, uh. And she was like, April 2013.

[Fran]

Hey, there's some people you just know everything about.

[Re]

You just remember these things. So that's a good one. But no, that's. That's gonna be a fun game.

[Fran]

We are so excited. You know, Olivia's at the top of the top. We're.

[Re]

We're so ready for some new Olivia music. You think she and Taylor talked about it at the Paul McCartney concert?

[Fran]

No, listen, Jake Shane probably weaseled his way into that conversation.

[Noah]

They're all gonna be on the screen, Every single person.

[Fran]

Jason Shane's definitely gonna interview Olivia Rodrigo.

[Re]

Oh, 100%. Can I say, by the way, love, Jake Shane.

[Fran]

I'm just joking around.

[Re]

Can I say they don't. That I think they didn't talk at all.

[Fran]

Oh, I agree.

[Re]

Like, I don't think they said, like, oh, hi. Nope. I think they didn't even look.

[Noah]

They were so close.

[Re]

No, they were so close. And I think it was probably so awkward. And they stood like. I don't think they looked in each other's direction.

[Fran]

I don't know.

[Re]

That's my guess.

[Noah]

Well, people are also like, did Jake Shane and Taylor Swift talk? Because he's like a giant.

[Fran]

Well, I think that we would have gotten a story from Jake Shane being like, I talked. Yeah, he could be. He could be standing on the animal.

[Re]

He could be saving it for a

[Fran]

story prize on the show. Yeah, he could be.

[Noah]

She's gonna be honest therapist.

[Fran]

He. She could be. I could see it.

[Re]

Totally could be. I could see that happening. I think if Taylor and Olivia spoke any words to each other, there would have been some rumblings about it.

[Fran]

True.

[Re]

I think they were just like, so incredibly close, like either leaving or coming into the concert. And here's the thing. We saw still photos of them being so close together. That could have been 4 seconds.

[Fran]

Could have been a passerby situation.

[Re]

It could have been such a quick,

[Noah]

random group of people. You see Drew Starkey next to Margot Robbie. It was just like the most random.

[Re]

It was a real who's who. It was real who's who. But, yeah, I. I actually would guess that not one word was spoken between them.

[Fran]

Yeah. I am excited, though. I'm excited for her album.

[Re]

Yes, I am.

[Fran]

Cannot wait. All right, that wraps up today's topics.

[Re]

This is actually so cool From Truly. We have these Collectors city cans. They are limited edition. They just dropped these limited edition 24 ounce wild berry cans. They're not just drinks. They're basically collectibles. I just picked up the Philadelphia one. They're so cool. It's all for some. You know, we got. We're rooting for U.S. soccer this year. Truly is the official heart seltzer of U.S. soccer. Each can is designed around a different city. So it's giving cute, unique, and also a little competitive. Like you kind of want to find them all. And if you do collect the full set, you can enter to win exclusive U.S. soccer merch, which is awesome, because then you'll be good to go all summer long. Because as a reminder, Truly is the official hard seltzer of US Soccer. So they're really leaning into the whole game day energy, making everything feel more social and fun. And obviously, you're still getting everything you love about Truly. It's that same delicious, super light, super refreshing, only 100 calories and 1 gram of sugar. So you can keep the vibes going without feeling weighed down. So go grab the truly 24 ounce wild berry collectible cans at your local store and see how many you can find. All right, ladies and gentlemen, welcome back

[Fran]

to another game of Beatrian Friend. This is game number 213, and we are joined by Marissa and Katie. They are lifelong besties from kindergarten, so who knows? They can go way back with these questions, but we're super excited to play. How are we feeling, ladies?

[Guest 1]

We're excited. Nervous.

[Fran]

We're always nervous, too.

[Re]

You guys are gonna be great. We're coming off A not so great game in Boston.

[Fran]

Was it that bad?

[Re]

We only got one question right.

[Fran]

Oh, well, that live show, it's always a toss up.

[Re]

Yeah, and we lost last game, too.

[Noah]

You spoiled the last question, too.

[Fran]

Oh, yes, I do remember that happening. Yeah, that's okay.

[Re]

That's okay.

[Noah]

You broke your own rule.

[Guest 1]

We're from the Boston area, so maybe that's a good omen.

[Fran]

I don't know.

[Re]

Maybe. But it's gonna be 15 questions. If you get the question right, you get the point. If you get it wrong, the other team can steal the point. Whoever has the most points at the end wins. To determine who goes first, Noah's gonna give us a movie. We're gonna guess the Rotten Tomatoes critic score of that movie. Whoever is closest will go first. We each get our own individual guess. We will alternate between teams for guesses. Noah, what is today's movie?

[Noah]

He's just not that into you.

[Fran]

A classic.

[Noah]

Great movie.

[Guest 1]

I'm gonna say 53.

[Re]

Rio

[Fran]

31. Katie. I'm gonna go 45.

[Re]

I like this whole range. You think higher just to have.

[Fran]

No. Okay.

[Re]

What? Wait, What?

[Fran]

What did you. What was your guess? 31. I was the lowest.

[Re]

I'll say 62.

[Noah]

45 is the closest. 42.

[Fran]

Damn. Well, right in the middle.

[Noah]

All right, question number one to Marissa and Katie shadow Bri from New Jersey, what 2019 movie featured a collaboration by Ariana Grande, Miley Cyrus and Lana Del Rey.

[Guest 1]

Like a song.

[Noah]

Yes. Oh,

[Guest 1]

2019 movie.

[Noah]

15 seconds.

[Fran]

What?

[Guest 1]

Even movies came out in 2019.

[Noah]

Five seconds.

[Fran]

Last song's not 2019. But that's all I got.

[Noah]

Time is up.

[Guest 1]

What'd you say?

[Fran]

It's a boss song.

[Guest 1]

Oh, dude.

[Noah]

Okay, incorrect.

[Fran]

This one seems to be escaping me.

[Re]

But it is something like the word

[Fran]

world is in it.

[Re]

I don't know. It was just to name the movie.

[Noah]

The movie.

[Re]

And all three of them are on one song.

[Fran]

Oh, the movie. It's a movie. Yeah. Fifty Shades of.

[Re]

Are they all on one song? Are they?

[Noah]

Yes.

[Fran]

Yes. Fifty Shades. No, that came out later. No, no, earlier. The. What's the 50 shades freed. 50 shades freed.

[Noah]

Five seconds.

[Fran]

Yeah. Final answer incorrect.

[Noah]

Charlie's Angels.

[Re]

Oh.

[Fran]

Oh, listen, I'm. I'm accepting that, though there, like the 50.

[Re]

No, I had no idea.

[Fran]

I don't know why.

[Re]

There was some great collaborations on those soundtracks.

[Noah]

All right, question number two to Re and Fran, shout out Taylor from Indiana. What movie does Taylor Swift reference in the song?

[Fran]

So High School American Pie. Yes. Final answer correct.

[Noah]

All right. One. Nothing. Ran. Fran, question number Three to Marissa and Katie, shout out Lexi from Arizona. What was the rival camp called in Camp Rock? Two.

[Fran]

Katie. I, I, I don't know.

[Guest 1]

Camp Star.

[Fran]

Ooh, I, I like it.

[Guest 1]

Camp Star. Final answer correct.

[Fran]

Nicely done. Nice. Wow.

[Guest 1]

That was pulling it out.

[Noah]

All right, tip at 1. Question number 4. To re infran, shout out Sarah from France on Friends. How does Joey's character get killed off on the sitcom or soap opera Days of our Lives?

[Re]

Is this when he, when he falls down the elevator?

[Fran]

Yes. Yes. Final answer correct. Yes.

[Re]

It's like, I think, I think I know that one.

[Fran]

And then Susan Sarandon, like, takes over his body.

[Noah]

Okay, two, one. Question number five. Shout out Sarah from France. Shout out Sarah from France. She's got, like, the next, like, four questions.

[Fran]

Yes.

[Noah]

Name the. Name the actor based on the following movies. Date Night. Forgetting Sarah Marshall. Bad moms. Actor or actress? Just to be clear.

[Re]

Makes it harder.

[Fran]

I'm, I'm thinking.

[Guest 1]

Oh, is it us?

[Fran]

Yes.

[Guest 1]

Oh, Mila Kunis.

[Noah]

Finally.

[Guest 1]

I think it's Mila Kunis.

[Noah]

Yeah.

[Guest 1]

Final answer correct.

[Noah]

Wow, you just had that one ready.

[Fran]

Yeah, I thought it was them.

[Noah]

All right. Yeah, that was a great. She had a great cameo on Date Night, that movie. All right, tied up at two. This is question number six. To Re and Fran, shout out Sarah from France again. Name three out of the four main characters on Sex and the City's fold names.

[Fran]

Carrie Bradshaw, Charlotte North. Right. Yeah. No, no, no. Charlotte York.

[Re]

Charlotte York. Charlotte north is a women's lacrosse player.

[Fran]

Charlotte, Charlotte York, Carrie Bradshaw. Carrie Bradshaw, Miranda and Samantha.

[Noah]

10 seconds. Three seconds.

[Re]

I don't remember either of their last names.

[Fran]

Me either.

[Noah]

Our time's up.

[Fran]

All right, pass.

[Noah]

Okay.

[Guest 1]

Harry Bradshaw, Charlotte York, Miranda Hobbs.

[Noah]

Final answer.

[Guest 1]

Oh, final answer. Yes.

[Noah]

Correct.

[Fran]

Dang it.

[Noah]

And Samantha Jones.

[Re]

Samantha Jones.

[Fran]

That is really embarrassing.

[Re]

Revoke our cards.

[Fran]

No, seriously, we don't watch Sex in the City. Like, we should be better at that. We should be better at sexy of us.

[Re]

We should be better at Sex in the City trivia. I really have only watched Sex in the City, not even one full time through.

[Fran]

That's like, I've actually watched it too many times to not know that. You know, it's a brain. It's just your brain slips up for a minute.

[Noah]

All right, three.

[Guest 1]

We were praying for a Sex in the City question.

[Noah]

Hey, that's a rare one. That's not that common to have a Sex in the City question.

[Re]

No, and that is probably on the easier side of Sex and the City questions.

[Noah]

All right, three, two.

[Fran]

Literally, what are Their names.

[Noah]

Three, two. Marissa and Katie. And this is question number seven to them. Shout out Sarah from France. Once again, which actress plays young Ellis Gray on season six of Grey's Anatomy?

[Guest 1]

That's all you think?

[Fran]

Which actress plays young Ellis Gray?

[Guest 1]

Do you know what other movies she's in?

[Fran]

Oh, I can't even picture her.

[Guest 1]

Young Ellis. I don't. I didn't watch season six.

[Noah]

Oh, I feel like that was one of the better. That was still when it was good.

[Guest 1]

Maybe I did. I don't. Because were we still in high school?

[Fran]

We're on, like, 25 now, so probably three seconds.

[Noah]

We had time to reinforce.

[Re]

I can't picture her either. I only see old Alice Gray.

[Fran]

Go. Shailene Woodley. She was always thrown into. Into.

[Re]

Into random shows when she was young. Being a young version of someone. Yeah, sure, why not?

[Fran]

Shayleen Woodley.

[Noah]

Final answer incorrect. Sarah Paulson.

[Fran]

Oh, to be honest, Sarah Paulson. Like, was it, like, really young? Because I was picturing row bells. Oh, I was picturing, like, really young girl.

[Noah]

Like.

[Re]

No, no, she was a young doctor. Yeah, it was like, young doctor.

[Guest 1]

She doesn't even look like the older actress.

[Re]

Oh, I was like. It was like when she was following it, like, when it was like, her and young Richard.

[Fran]

Oh, I was, like, picturing, like, young, young girl.

[Re]

No, no, no. That's why.

[Fran]

Young in the oc.

[Re]

Young doctor.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Noah]

And then I think on a later season, they switched to a different actress when they did flashbacks. Okay, still three. Two. Marissa and Katie, this is question number eight. To rean Fran, shout out Brie from New Jersey, what was the title of Addison Rae's debut single?

[Fran]

Obsessed. Yes.

[Re]

Start question.

[Fran]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Obsessed. Final answer correct.

[Noah]

That you might have said. What was it? Diet.

[Fran]

Yeah. No, Come on. We all know she had something before that.

[Noah]

What happened? I feel like she's been. She's been real quiet lately.

[Fran]

No, she's performing.

[Re]

She's talking to her. She's on tour.

[Fran]

I'll see one thing about that clearly, you know?

[Re]

Well, why would you.

[Fran]

She performed.

[Noah]

I don't know. I see. I feel like I'm pretty tapped in.

[Fran]

No, she performed up in Brazil.

[Noah]

Oh, wow.

[Guest 1]

We talked about her at work today. This morning.

[Re]

There you go.

[Noah]

All right, tied up at three. Question number nine. To Marissa and Katie, shout out Annie from Chicago. In what year were all of these songs released? I Kissed a Girl by Katy Perry. Disturbia by Rihanna. Love Story by Taylor Swift.

[Fran]

Oh, okay.

[Guest 1]

Taylor Swift's Fearless album came out in 2008.

[Fran]

So I was gonna say I was in high school. Yeah.

[Guest 1]

And fearless is 2008, so. 2008. Final answer correct.

[Fran]

Yep.

[Re]

All those songs really were big and big on my 8th grade year.

[Fran]

Pretty sure we had Disturbia included in another question recently. We did. Yeah. Yeah. About the year.

[Noah]

Love to fact check that.

[Fran]

We will have to fact check.

[Noah]

I would have been. Would you have gotten that?

[Re]

Yes.

[Noah]

Okay. All right.

[Fran]

Does it matter? We could say yes or no. We could say yes and not just

[Re]

hear me say, like, all those songs

[Fran]

are big in my exact. Would you have gotten that? We could just be like, yeah. Yeah. You would never know.

[Re]

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[Noah]

Okay. Four, three. Marissa and Katie, this is question number 10. Terry and Fran. I'm gonna play movie clip and you tell me what movie it's from. Oh, hey, Mark, could you do me

[Fran]

a favor and never leave a paycheck from your shit sitcom on my pillow ever again, please? Oh, that is so rude of me

[Noah]

to accidentally leave my paycheck for $25,000 on your pillow. I'm sorry, it's a dick move.

[Re]

It's just they keep coming, you know, week after week.

[Fran]

It's getting a little bit hard to

[Noah]

keep track of them all. You know what? Becoming marginally famous has really turned you into an asshole.

[Fran]

Is this to us?

[Re]

Yes.

[Fran]

They get him to the Greek is Jonah Hills. That's Jonah Hill's voice, but I don't know.

[Re]

That sounded like Miles Teller at the end.

[Fran]

Oh, is it Miles Teller? Maybe it's Miles Teller. Jonah Hill. Miles Teller. This is the second time that I'm confusing their voices.

[Re]

Is one of them famous in.

[Fran]

Sounds like the sick.

[Re]

That awkward moment? No.

[Fran]

Oh, maybe it's that. That

[Noah]

three people, five seconds.

[Re]

But didn't sound like the other two voices. That's all I got. The awkward moment. Final answer.

[Noah]

Incorrect. It's Marc and Katie.

[Guest 1]

That's definitely Jonah Hill at the end. We can't hear it again, right?

[Noah]

What's our rule? Is it one per.

[Re]

No, we play one per team.

[Noah]

Alright, So I can play it again. Oh, hey, Mark, could you do me

[Fran]

a favor and never leave a paycheck from your shit sitcom on my pillow ever again, please? Oh, that is so rude of me

[Noah]

to accidentally leave my paycheck for $25,000 on your pillow. Sorry, it's a dick move.

[Re]

It's just they keep coming, you know, week after week.

[Fran]

It's getting a little bit hard to

[Noah]

keep track of them all. You know what? Becoming marginally famous has really turned you into an.

[Fran]

What? Okay, what's the.

[Guest 1]

What's the name of that? That was Seth Rogen and Jonah Hill. The name of the movie where the world is ending.

[Fran]

Is it the end of the World?

[Noah]

Three seconds.

[Fran]

Yeah, final answer. End of the world.

[Noah]

Correct.

[Re]

Oh, is it? This is the end.

[Noah]

No, it's Funny People.

[Fran]

I've never seen that.

[Noah]

That's Seth Rogen, Jason Schwartz.

[Re]

That is Jonah Hill. Jonah Hill and Miles Heller for some reason. Really? That one was giving more Jonah Hill the second. Listen, it sounded way more Jonah Hill.

[Noah]

Okay, question number 11.

[Re]

Funny people.

[Noah]

Adam Sandler movie. You never seen that? Oh no, that's a good one. It's Seth Rogen's like his assistant.

[Re]

Never. Have you seen.

[Fran]

No, I haven't.

[Noah]

Wait, really? Oh, wow. It's a good movie. Like sad. It's a more serious movie, but okay. Four, three. Marissa and Katie. This is question number 11 to them. Shadow Cal from Long Island. What was the LA Club that the castmates in the hills frequently went to Ladue.

[Guest 1]

Final answer.

[Noah]

Correct. And I'm happy that you said it,

[Fran]

because I would have that.

[Noah]

All right.

[Fran]

Carrying us.

[Re]

Would have been good to hear Noah say it's Le Dux.

[Noah]

5. 3. Marissa and Katie, question number 12. 3. And Fran shout out Taylor from Indiana in Lizzie McGuire. What specific sport does Lizzie compete in?

[Re]

Gymnastics was the first thing that popped in my head. But isn't that when she. When she tries to do gymnastics, where

[Fran]

she, like, let's say gymnastics. Gymnastics then.

[Re]

Right.

[Fran]

I don't think of anything else.

[Re]

Gymnastics. Final answer.

[Noah]

Incorrect. Emphasis on specific.

[Guest 1]

Okay. I remember the ribbon twirling situation, and I wanted, like, is ribbon twirling a Sport or Baton?

[Noah]

15 seconds.

[Guest 1]

Rhythmic gymnastics is the actual name of the sport.

[Fran]

Ribbon dance. Like, ribbon dancing isn't a sport.

[Guest 1]

I think it's rhythmic gymnastics.

[Fran]

Okay, let's go with it.

[Guest 1]

Final answer. Rhythmic gymnastics.

[Noah]

Correct. Rhythmic gymnastics. It's rhythmic gymnastics.

[Re]

You.

[Guest 1]

I would have given it to them.

[Re]

I'll talk to you about that after.

[Noah]

I mean. I mean, hey, we. Hey, no, no, no.

[Re]

I think you. I think I said specific.

[Noah]

I put specific in the question. Reason.

[Re]

If you. If we say gymnastics, I think you say we need something more specific before saying final answer to Cl. Like.

[Noah]

But then I'm, like, helping you. I said specific in the question.

[Re]

I guess that's how. That's how Jeff D. Does it.

[Fran]

And also, you pick and choose. When you do that. Sometimes. Sometimes he's like, close enough. Sometimes I'm like, I'm looking for a little more.

[Re]

It was Jeff D. I will say Jeff D on the dozen says, this

[Noah]

ain't a dozen, honey.

[Re]

If you say one word, he'll say, I need something more. More specific. And then you have. You have, like, two seconds to clarify.

[Noah]

I just was, like. I said specific in the question, and gymnastics by itself isn't specific.

[Re]

You said what specific sport. Whatever. It's fine. Yeah, yeah. I'm not gonna fight you on this.

[Noah]

Okay. It is 63.

[Re]

Literally said, what?

[Noah]

Ribbon twirling Marissa and Katie. And it's question number 13. Shout out to Sarah from France again. Tumorous. And Katie, the singer, Jojo, recorded a song titled Secret Love, for which 2004 animated movie soundtrack.

[Guest 1]

2004.

[Fran]

Okay.

[Guest 1]

We were in sixth grade.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Guest 1]

Secret love. I'm thinking Pixar.

[Noah]

15 seconds.

[Fran]

It wouldn't have been like a. Like a Disney. Like a Lizzie McGuire type. I think that's too late for Lizzie McGuire movie.

[Guest 1]

But it's animated.

[Fran]

Oh, animated.

[Noah]

All right, time is up.

[Guest 1]

The incredible.

[Fran]

The Incredible. Final.

[Re]

Final answer.

[Fran]

Trying to think of what movies came out around that four. And Secret Love. I'm trying to think of, like, animated movies that would have, like, love aspect in it.

[Noah]

15 seconds.

[Fran]

I'm real. What was that one with the dog?

[Noah]

Five seconds.

[Fran]

That Miley Cyrus was in. No, that would be too early.

[Noah]

Time is up.

[Fran]

Toy Story.

[Noah]

Correct. Shark Tale.

[Fran]

I wasn't a big Shark Tale person. I have to be completely honest.

[Re]

Yeah, that was.

[Fran]

I think I maybe saw it one time. All right.

[Guest 1]

In theaters.

[Noah]

That seals a victory for Mer and Katie.

[Fran]

Congratulations.

[Noah]

Congrats to you guys.

[Re]

We're on a bad losing, guys.

[Fran]

Bobby Clay sometimes loses a couple times in a row. That's how you keep him, you know? That's how you keep Gabby wanting to come back and fight for himself.

[Noah]

I will do the final two questions. Question number 14. To reinfranch out of Carly from Lansdale, Pennsylvania, who is the youngest celebrity winner in Dancing with the Stars history?

[Fran]

Us.

[Noah]

Yeah.

[Fran]

Bindi Irwin.

[Re]

Youngest celebrity. Yeah, that feels like a good guess.

[Fran]

Either Charlie d' Amelio or Bendy Irwin. Right.

[Re]

I would go Bindi.

[Noah]

All right.

[Fran]

Bindi Irwin. Final answer.

[Noah]

Incorrect. Marissa and Katie.

[Guest 1]

I was gonna say Bindi too, but maybe it was Sochi or that Pretty Little Liars girl. Maybe Sochi.

[Fran]

I'll defer to you.

[Guest 1]

Final answer.

[Noah]

Incorrect. It's Lori hernandez. She was 16.

[Fran]

Oh, yeah. Yep, yep, yep, yep, yep.

[Noah]

All right, final question. Shout out Molly from Glenville, Nebraska. And this is to Mariss and Katie. Shout out Mol. Oh, I already shouted you out on Modern Family. After Jay retires, what business does he start?

[Guest 1]

Jay, this is us.

[Fran]

Yes, yes.

[Guest 1]

Oh, Jay is the grandpa, right?

[Fran]

Yeah. Isn't there, like, closets, closets, closets. But I don't know if that's him or if that's.

[Guest 1]

Go for it.

[Re]

I've.

[Guest 1]

I've never watched it front to back, so I don't know.

[Noah]

15 seconds.

[Fran]

That might be the mom, though. I don't know. Closets, closets, closets. Final answer.

[Noah]

Incorrect. To reinforce.

[Re]

I'm not like a modern retirement. Closets, closets, closets.

[Fran]

I thought, yeah, I'm not like a Modern Family trivia person. Like, I never watched it all the way.

[Re]

It's what he does after retiring.

[Noah]

Yeah.

[Fran]

Gardening. That.

[Re]

Something with his dog.

[Fran]

I. Once again, I have literally no idea. I never.

[Noah]

15 seconds.

[Re]

No clue.

[Fran]

Dog walking.

[Noah]

Five seconds.

[Re]

Sections say, like. Like, dog clothing line. Stella's all dressed up.

[Noah]

Incorrect. Very close. Dog beds.

[Re]

Dog beds by Stella. Something with a dog.

[Fran]

Something with a dog.

[Noah]

All right.

[Re]

With something With Stella, it's the best episode. When Stella falls in the pool.

[Noah]

I gotta watch the Modern Family final score, 6, 3. I'm happy the gymnastics thing didn't decide this.

[Fran]

No, thank God.

[Re]

Did not.

[Fran]

Congratulations, though. You guys get shirts that say you beat us and, you know, you're, you know, you're inspiring us that we got to get back to it next week and win the game. You know, it's motivation.

[Re]

Some watching. Yes, Studying.

[Guest 1]

Awesome. Fun fact, though, that when you guys are in Singapore, I am the Marissa they kept on calling at the Pug Cafe.

[Re]

Yes, I.

[Fran]

Yes, that makes a lot more sense.

[Noah]

A little behind the scenes. Marisa.

[Re]

We did put two and two together before that when go to Singapore, when Noah said your name, I was like, oh, that's. That's when the guy called me Marissa the whole time. I just didn't bother to correct him.

[Noah]

Oh, yeah. Oh, my God, I forgot about that.

[Fran]

Well, thank you so much, guys. So nice to play trivia with you. And congratulations. Thanks for sending us to Singapore. Yes, of course.

[Re]

Seriously. Yeah, thanks.

[Fran]

Bye.

[Noah]

Bye.

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[Fran]

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