Amanda Batula's Strange Behavior on Summer House + RHORI's Jo-Ellen Tiberi Interview

Summary

Chicks in the Office

Episode: Amanda Batula's Strange Behavior on Summer House + RHORI's Jo-Ellen Tiberi Interview

Date: May 8, 2026

Hosted by: Ria & Fran (Barstool Sports)

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Episode Overview

This episode delivers classic "Chicks in the Office" energy with a mix of pop culture commentary and reality TV deep dives. Fran and Ria break down the buzz around Amanda Batula’s recent behavior on "Summer House," spill the latest on the Rossini/Vrabel rumor mill, recap trending celebrity news, and welcome Jo-Ellen Tiberi from "Real Housewives of Rhode Island" (RHORI) for an in-depth interview. They wrap up with their signature lightning trivia game.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Catch-Up, Vibes & Weekend Plans

[02:30-11:00]

• Fran and Ria revel in classic New York spring weather talk, with commentary on optimum "dog walking weather" and personal blanket habits.
• Fran is on "baby watch" for her friend. Light banter about walking around naked at home in the city brings relatable humor:

  "There is no better feeling than walking around butt ass naked in the comfort of your own home... It's a luxury." — Fran [08:26]

• Survivor is praised as being "so damn good this season." Fran notes, “Every time I turn on an episode... it is so, so good. I am eating it up.” [11:00]
• Pop culture segue: Barstool’s Surviving Barstool cast is revealed—with Matt featured and a younger, fresher group promised.

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2. Summer House Recap: Amanda Batula’s Behavior & Kyle’s Blow-Up

[15:20-25:28]

• Discussion on the most recent "Summer House" episode centers on Kyle's dramatic outburst toward Amanda at dinner:

  "Probably the biggest blow up he's had... Throws a fuck you at her again." — Fran [16:00]

• The Chicks dissect Amanda’s smile during the fight and whether she’s “more calculated than we think.” Both hosts analyze the show’s editing and behind-the-scenes dynamics:

  “Your brain starts to go, is this woman a little bit more calculated than we think?” — Fran [16:40]

• Nuanced debate on Amanda's behavior, her confiding in West, and the emotional toll of the Kyle/Amanda relationship on viewers and their friends.

  “I think her confiding in West... she felt like, oh my god, a guy cares about me and is showing me this affection that I think she was missing from Kyle." — Fran [19:27] "Watching this season is just making it worse. It’s not like we don’t have these things to back it up.” — Fran [21:14]

• The cast previews a “three-part reunion” and teases the premiere of "In the City" with hints that Bravo picked up cameras for extra drama.

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3. Trending Pop Culture: Diana Rossini & Mike Vrabel Rumors

[26:23-40:43]

• Ria lays out the viral saga involving sports broadcaster Diana Rossini and NFL coach Mike Vrabel:

  “She named her son Michael during the time in which she had been seeing Mike Vrabel...” — Fran [29:24]

• The Chicks point out damning "receipts" (playlist names, boat records, old photos) being uncovered weekly—suggesting, half-jokingly, a private investigator is behind the leaks.
• Discussion on sexism and backlash, noting Rossini’s digital footprint is under heavy fire while Vrabel receives fan support:

  “Her life gets flipped upside down for this... Vrabel’s getting a fucking standing ovation. It’s such an eye...” — Ria [38:33]

• Commentary on why both parties are equally responsible, puzzling over why only Rossini has lost work:

  “It’s a conflict of interest for him to be leaking information. I don’t understand the double standard.” — Fran [39:16]

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4. Quick Hits: Celebrity News

[41:04-48:35]

• KJ Apa's "Mr. Fantasy" viral bit is dissected—acknowledging fans that still think it’s not a joke.

  "They're the same person. This is a whole... It's a whole bit. It's hysterical." — Ria [41:55]

• Billie Eilish & Nat Wolff: Their red carpet debut as a couple is discussed, with special mention to Billie’s Good Hang interview, Amy Poehler’s relatability, and the couple's "friendship to lovers" trope.

  “I love the friendship to lovers trope.” — Ria [46:21]

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5. Main Interview: Jo-Ellen Tiberi from RHORI

[49:54-87:17]

Getting to Know Jo-Ellen [50:11–54:00]

• The cast commends how authentic and interconnected RHORI feels from the start.

  “Us having genuine connections and knowing each other, that’s a big differentiator...” — Jo-Ellen [50:35]

• Jo-Ellen reveals filming realities: "You’d film a three, four-hour scene and it’d get cut to two minutes and they’d forget my funny in that one." [52:56]

The Drama & Dynamics [55:31–61:34]

• Confessional honesty: Jo-Ellen says she’ll say things both to faces and in confessional, contrasting others’ "mic drop moments."

  “You’re not dropping a mic. You’re dropping a marriage, girl.” — Jo-Ellen [55:40]

• Calling out affair rumors, fallout with Rula, and why she believes reality TV is about owning one’s “messiness.”

  “I think that somebody deserves to know if their husband is cheating... That’s being a girl’s girl.” — Jo-Ellen [56:07] “He was in a two-and-a-half-year relationship, giving his girlfriend a ring... Why would you do this?” — Jo-Ellen [57:49]

Rhode Island, Family, and Fan Feedback [61:34–84:37]

• The cast quizzes Jo-Ellen on Rhode Island geography quirks, famous “pizza chips,” the Newport trip, and local culture.

  “It’s like your town is our entire state—so we all know each other and everyone’s mess.” — Jo-Ellen [60:19]

• Addressing viral moments: on her sister's supposed interest in Jo-Ellen's husband, she dispels rumors with irreverence:

  “He touched her boobs one time. I mean, everyone touches boobs... It’s not a big deal.” — Jo-Ellen [63:49]

• Candid discussion of her difficult upbringing, getting "sent away" as a teen, and relationship with her mom now.
• Jo-Ellen shares what filming has been like as a non-Bravo superfan, and about RHORI’s blend of personalities:

  “You want to be polarizing like that.” — Fran [77:20]

• The Italian vibe: husbands are as much a part of the cast as the women.
• Final tease: season two hopes, fallout with work after on-screen drama, and what she wishes viewers would understand.

Notable Quotes

• “I’m somebody that, you know, I say it like it is. I’m very unfiltered and unapologetically me."—Jo-Ellen [76:53]
• “My poor sister thought the world was gonna love her. And then she started reading the Internet...” — Jo-Ellen [86:40]

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6. Weekly Trivia Game

[88:49–112:50]

• Fran and Ria take on sisters Ashley and Amanda in pop culture trivia, covering Justin Bieber, Toy Story, Knives Out, the Bieber roast, Entourage, Jersey Shore, Fleabag, and more.
• Fun banter continues as the game gets competitive—highlights include:
  • “You ain’t gonna get me. I have watched that show more than any other thing…” — Fran (re: Entourage) [100:26]
  • "The only goal in life was to get a Livestrong bracelet." — Noah [99:39]

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• "There is no better feeling than walking around butt ass naked in the comfort of your own home.” — Fran [08:26]
• "Naming her son Michael is diabolical.” — Ria (re: Rossini) [33:34]
• “They're equally disgusting in this.” – Fran (on Vrabel/Rossini) [39:55]
• "You’re not dropping a mic. You’re dropping a marriage, girl.” — Jo-Ellen [55:40]
• “I say it like it is. I’m very unfiltered and unapologetically me.” — Jo-Ellen [76:53]

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Quick Reference Timestamps

• 02:30–11:00 | Personal stories, Survivor, pop culture catch-up
• 15:20–25:28 | Summer House deep dive: Amanda Batula & Kyle
• 26:23–40:43 | Diana Rossini & Mike Vrabel rumors
• 41:04–48:35 | Celebrity News: KJ Apa, Billie Eilish & Nat Wolff
• 49:54–87:17 | Jo-Ellen Tiberi RHORI Interview
• 88:49–112:50 | Weekly Pop Culture Trivia

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Tone & Style

The episode is conversational, candid, and irreverent, with a distinct “Chicks in the Office” blend of relatability and pop culture expertise. Fran and Ria’s chemistry makes the deep dives feel like chats with friends, while Jo-Ellen matches their humor and candor in the interview.

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Takeaways

• "Summer House" drama gets extra layers when reality seeps into the edit, and Amanda Batula’s behavior has fans rethinking her marriage to Kyle.
• The Rossini/Vrabel story explodes as a multi-week, receipts-fueled scandal highlighting sports media’s gendered double standards.
• RHORI has hit the ground running, with Jo-Ellen as an early standout for her sharp wit and transparency.
• The trivia segment remains a fan favorite—competitive and packed with nostalgia.

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“It really is blankets. You just need something on the couch.” — Ria [05:39]

“If you really were desperately in love with each other, perhaps you do blow up your life… but every once in a while, just once a year, you guys just have a little rendezvous somewhere.” — Ria (about Rossini & Vrabel) [34:48]

“If somebody’s lying, I think that somebody deserves to know if their husband is cheating on them. That’s being a girl's girl. That’s just being a good human being and friend.” — Jo-Ellen [56:07]

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For full Bravo/BravoCon, pop culture, and reality TV insights, don't miss this jam-packed episode.

Transcript

[Ria]

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[Fran]

what's up everyone? It's Chicks in the Office with Ria and Fran giving you that Friday Energy on a Friday. Happy Friday everybody.

[Ria]

Happy Friday. How are we feeling?

[Fran]

Good.

[Ria]

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[Ria]

this is my I Ideal temp. I'm glad we're getting a few days like this. Low 60s.

[Fran]

Very nice.

[Ria]

Gorgeous.

[Fran]

Very, very nice.

[Ria]

Great dog walking weather.

[Fran]

Oh, yeah. Alen's very happy sweat.

[Ria]

Oh, she is. But like, she could walk 15 miles on. On a day like today.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Ria]

And she knows her way around the city now. So, like, when I take her down a sidewalk that, like, if I make a turn, she'll dig her heels in, like, oh, I don't want to go that way.

[Fran]

I don't know. That's true.

[Ria]

She's like, I actually want to go south. Thank you.

[Fran]

Safety protocol.

[Ria]

And we're going to. And she'll like, well, fully. I'm like, okay, it's her walk. I let you know. Create your own adventure.

[Fran]

Exactly.

[Ria]

Kind of let her take me wherever she would like to go. But no, I'm excited for this weekend. It feels like spring has sprung in New York. I haven't been here in a while for a weekend. It feels like. And it's my mom's birthday today, Friday.

[Fran]

Oh, happy birthday.

[Ria]

So happy birthday to my mom. I got to see her last week and Mother's Day on Sunday. Unfortunately, she does have her birthday very

[Fran]

close to Mother's Day, so it's like a whammy.

[Ria]

It is.

[Fran]

But you. It's.

[Ria]

Because a lot of times it's like a combined.

[Fran]

Right, Right.

[Ria]

And she's like, I get screwed. Because if my birthday was another time. I get a birthday gift and a mistake gift.

[Jo Ellen]

Yeah.

[Fran]

It's a common.

[Ria]

But when it's like.

[Fran]

Right.

[Ria]

Yeah. I actually sent. And it was kind of a selfish. Was partly for me, but also for them. They just like, don't have blank. I'm just a blanket person, you know, a nice, fuzzy, cozy blanket. I love it.

[Jo Ellen]

I did.

[Ria]

And. And you know what? There's really nothing better. And it was funny because my brother was at my apartment and I was in Florida. And funny enough, he had texted being like, we gotta get one of these bad boys in Florida. And I said, jb, it's on the way. It's coming tomorrow.

[Fran]

Perfect.

[Ria]

And I was like, I ordered it last week so that it would come when I'm here so that I could use it.

[Fran]

Smart.

[Ria]

But when I leave, it's for my mom. Cause they just like. They're not blanket people.

[Fran]

I can't live in a world like that.

[Ria]

It's. I can't really. Even when it's hot out, I like to sit on the couch with a blanket.

[Fran]

I am so with you. I am such a blanket person. Grew up a blanket person.

[Ria]

Yep.

[Fran]

Matt not really a blanket person. And I've kind of got him onto the blankets on the couch. Because I'm just like, you gonna sit there with your legs out like that? No. Not gonna cover.

[Ria]

Crazy. I think I have, like, four blankets on my couch.

[Fran]

Like someone who's got shorts on. I'm like, oh, my God. You sitting on the couch like that?

[Ria]

No. Come on, get on under. No, you can't be covered like that. And you're so much cozier with the blanket.

[Fran]

With the blanket.

[Ria]

And my mom's like, what do you mean? We have this blanket? I'm like, mom, I think that blanket has been. I think that blanket was in a house 20 years ago. Plus, like, I'm like, I remember that from when I was little. Like, that blanket has. It's on its last leg. Let's upgrade here.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Ria]

And it was a luxurious upgrade.

[Fran]

Well, that's a beautiful blanket.

[Ria]

Now I'm like, you're welcome. You're gonna love this. Despite not really being a blanket person, my brother probably is gonna profit off of it the most. But it really is blankets. You just need something on the couch.

[Fran]

I'm totally with you naked on the couch.

[Ria]

And by naked, I mean clothed. Clothed, but just clothed. Do you ever sleep with nothing over you? No, not really. Like, no. Sometimes in a robe, but not fully in the nude.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Amanda]

Do you?

[Fran]

No.

[Ria]

No. You were teeing up for you to be like, yeah.

[Fran]

Well, I will say.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Fran]

When the sun is shining.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Fran]

Into the window.

[Ria]

Yeah. Oh, well, that's fair. Some also have the ideal apartment for that. Because nobody can see into your apartment.

[Fran]

Talking about this out loud, it makes me want to.

[Ria]

Not.

[Fran]

Because, like, people coming over my house, and they're gonna know that I. I

[Noah]

was gonna say I. I've been on your couch many times.

[Ria]

That doesn't bother me.

[Fran]

But no one sits in the corner.

[Ria]

But, you know, no one's, like, doing it. It's like, fresh out of the shower.

[Fran]

Right?

[Ria]

Clean.

[Fran]

Fresh out of the shower. I'm very clean.

[Ria]

Yeah. It's not like you're sweating, stripping all your clothes off and sitting naked on the couch.

[Fran]

It happens. And it doesn't happen often, but it has happened. Where I'm fresh out of the shower.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Fran]

The sun is shining. I go into my corner, by the way, which no one really sees.

[Ria]

No one goes, right.

[Fran]

It's your corner comes over. Nobody goes into the corner of the couch where it's got the whole thing, you know, And I just let the sun hit my My body.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Fran]

You know, I read and it charges me up.

[Ria]

Yeah, that's nice. I. I would do it more if you. You could totally see right into my apartment. Right, like across the street. Like.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Ria]

And it's funny because when you live

[Fran]

in New York, I'm probably Ugly Naked Guy.

[Ria]

I. No, I'm friends. That's probably me. Like, I think it's me. Like, the amount I walk around naked in my apartment and for some reason, for some reason I tell myself they can't see me despite me completely being able to see them. You know, like, I look across the street and I can see what everybody's doing in their apartment.

[Fran]

Right. You just gotta, like, put it out of your mind.

[Ria]

Like, I got a name. Like, I got a guy that I think. I think he moved, but for a while he was like playing the guitar. Definitely naked, like right in his window.

[Fran]

Naked guitar guy.

[Ria]

Yeah. Yeah. We had another naked guy we saw sometimes. And yet some. And yet when I'm naked and I'm like. I'm like, nah, there's no way they can see me. But they totally can.

[Fran]

Just put it out of your brain. Totally.

[Ria]

You should be able to walk around

[Fran]

your place freely naked.

[Ria]

Exactly, exactly. There's no better feeling. You know what I'm like, this is where I live.

[Fran]

There is no better feeling than walking around butt ass naked in the comfort of your own home. Because when you stay at somebody else's home and you gotta cover up. Yeah, it's you. Everything goes out the window. You're like, oh, my God. Wait, I can't just walk out of the bathroom naked right now. I gotta get dressed.

[Jo Ellen]

It's a whole thing.

[Ria]

I know.

[Fran]

It is a luxury to walk around your home naked.

[Ria]

It absolutely is.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Ria]

And even when everybody can see it, right? Even when it's like into your window and on a skinny New York City street, it's whatever.

[Fran]

It is what it is.

[Ria]

I think everyone's accepted it. Like when you live in New York, it's like. Yeah. You see, to get people in their

[Fran]

apartment, it's like looking at art.

[Ria]

Yeah, it's art.

[Fran]

It's beautiful. Human body's a beautiful thing. Even beautiful.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Fran]

Speaking of human body is a beautiful thing. I'm waiting. One of my best friends, my God.

[Jo Ellen]

Still.

[Fran]

She got induced two days ago and we're waiting on movement. I don't know, we thought it was happening two days ago.

[Ria]

And I'm not exactly an expert by any means, but I kind of thought that like they, they said that induced, like it. Things Start to move quickly.

[Fran]

It really depends. Everybody's different. They thought that was gonna happen. They had told her on Monday, they said to her, or Monday or Tuesday it was. They said, tomorrow at this time you will be leaving here with your baby. That did not happen.

[Ria]

That did not happen. So hopefully by the time this comes out, you know.

[Fran]

So we have been on baby watch this week. Yeah. I had told my friend Fiona on Sunday, we were talking about rice balls and she was like, I just don't know if anything on Long island can live up to the rice balls that you showed me. And I said, honey, when you give birth, I'm gonna make you homemade rice balls. I thought I had like two or three more weeks.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Fran]

The next day she went to a follow up appointment. Boom. They sent her to the hospital. So I was like, I don't know if the homemade rice balls are happening this week.

[Ria]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, That's.

[Fran]

But they will happen for her, right?

[Ria]

It might not be right away.

[Fran]

It might not be right away, but

[Ria]

maybe she won't want to eat them right away.

[Fran]

That's true, that's true. Cause she says she's in the mood for a lot of things, but you don't know until after. So we'll see. So we've been on a baby watch this week and on top of that, Survivor last night. I won't spoil because I know people have to catch up and the last time I did this accidentally spoiled. I won't do that. But I just have to say that this season is so damn good. And every time I turn on an episode I go, oh, God, I hope this is just as good as last week because it's really good. Oh, my God, it is so, so good. I am eating it up.

[Ria]

Survivor's a Wednesday night show.

[Fran]

It is. It used to be Thursday nights years ago.

[Noah]

How many episodes, like, I couldn't catch up at this point.

[Ria]

You could catch up on this season. You absolutely can.

[Fran]

Well, we're up to episode like 10.

[Noah]

Oh, that's not that bad.

[Ria]

Please.

[Fran]

No, you can catch up.

[Ria]

You can do that in a night. It's.

[Fran]

It's just so damn good. Speaking of Survivor, the new surviving barstool cast was announced. Matt is doing it. He's on the cast. It's a fun cast of characters. Way different than the last. Than last year.

[Ria]

Yeah. Younger group.

[Fran]

Younger group.

[Ria]

Fresher group.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Ria]

Like some, you know, like new names.

[Fran]

Yeah, new names. Not like the OG Not a lot of like OG Bar. So, I mean, there are people that have been here For a long time, but not in the way that it was like last time, when it was like, Dave big cat, like those people. So that'll be fun. That is filming very soon. So you know what? Obviously, we're Room for Matt. We're gonna send good vibes, so that'll be fun. But that won't air until he'll be a while August or September. So. Yeah.

[Noah]

Yeah.

[Fran]

But that. That'll be a lot of fun. How about you guys? Anything. Anything new this week?

[Ria]

No. I went to the Release Recovery foundation gala Wednesday night, which was a beautiful event. I haven't been to Cal in a. In a. In a while, but they put together such a gorgeous event. And the Knicks and the Sixers were playing at the same time, which was funny because it was a good crowd of. This is, you know, Zach Clark's foundation and the people in his life, a lot of Philly people. So, like, there's the Sixers people. But this is event. The event is in New York, so a lot of New York people, very smart on their part. They put up a Team Knicks, Team Sixers fundraising battle. So it's like you could text and donate in favor of Team Knicks or Team Sixers.

[Fran]

Wow, that's smart.

[Ria]

Which was great. When I left, Team Sixers was running away with it, so they may. They didn't get the actual win.

[Fran]

Yeah. But they wanted the foundation.

[Ria]

But they wanted the foundation. We had a lovely night. They also honored Carl, which was great. So Carl had a speech, and I just really love hearing. Hearing from him. It's just his journey and everything he's been through. And he kept saying he didn't feel like he was deserving of this. Of this honor, but he really is doing so much by sharing his story so publicly and on tv. And him and Kyle are a. Okay. Like, he thanked Kyle multiple times in his speech, too, of just, like, being lucky to have a friend. Because it's so crazy. Like, they're fighting right now on the show. But it was a good reminder, Like, a lot of it's a TV show. And he was like, kyle's been by my side for years and years and wouldn't be able to do this without him, which. Which was really, really nice. I do laugh every time I see Kyle because I'm always like, hey. And he's like, hey, seen what you said. Yeah. And he takes it on the chain. I'll give it to him. He's a good sport. I think he's been doing this for a long time, so he knows and he's always, he's always nothing but nice when I see him and we chat. So it was nice. There was a bunch of people from, like, Bravo behind the scenes, people execs and stuff that were there to support Carl, which was so nice. And it was such a. It was, it was a lovely event. It's also great because Taos, like, tow downtown's not that far from where I live, so it's like a. An e. An easy trip. But it was a lovely evening despite the Sixers losing again, which is not good.

[Noah]

I mean, it was a close game, though.

[Ria]

It was. It was way better than game one. At least there's that.

[Fran]

It was very close.

[Ria]

Yeah, it was very close.

[Noah]

I was really pulling. I'm really pulling because I just can't stand Knicks fans. So I was. I'm really reading. I mean, not that I'm like, I love six either, but I think, well,

[Ria]

now it's funny because I'm, I'm. Every time I see now, I'm like, God damn it, Kylie's at the game. She's a good luck charm. Every time.

[Fran]

They were so cute last night. I mean, comments by celebs had so many behind the scenes videos of them because they had a great view of where they were sitting, of them. They got them got her going up to Carl Anthony Towns and Jordan right after, got Timmy slapping her on the butt. I'm like, this is a movie. This is cinema that you got on your story right now. It was so good. But speaking of Carl and Summerhouse and Kyle, we ought to talk about this week's episode because there has been a lot of discussion after this week's episode because Kyle fully blows up at dinner. Lindsay really egged it on. Yeah, really egged it on. But Kyle looks across the table at every moment.

[Ria]

Probably the biggest blow up he's had.

[Fran]

Throws a fuck you at her again. Now here's the issue that I think a lot of people are having and we are as well. Yeah. If Amanda and Wes don't do what they did, we're watching this and we're going, oh, my God. Kyle once again treating his wife like shit. How could he do that? Da, da, da, da, da.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Fran]

Now knowing what we know and watching the conversation that she had with Mia earlier about Ciara and West and then watching her smile when Kyle's freaking out, your brain starts to go,

[Ria]

is this

[Fran]

woman a little bit more calculated than we think? You know, because obviously the way Kyle has treated Amanda that we have seen is, is absolutely horrendous. Like, it's horrible. You don't treat your wife that way. You don't say fuck you across the table, no matter how mad you are. Like, it's just not okay.

[Ria]

Yep.

[Fran]

I'm wondering if there are things that we are not seeing at home that is causing these outbursts from Kyle. Because it seemed like it was an outburst from Kyle that was so built up.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Fran]

That he just exploded because there it felt like just real frustration of, oh my God, people don't see what I. What I see. And that's what I was getting from this. Which. Wow. We have come a long way to try to understanding Kyle Cook in this moment. Because it's hard not to when we know what we know and to watch. I'm not excusing Kyle's behavior.

[Jo Ellen]

No.

[Fran]

I'm just trying to understand it a little bit more. It's never okay, once again, to talk like that to your wife, obviously. But her sitting there like with a smile, like, almost.

[Ria]

It just felt a slightly devious.

[Fran]

Yeah, it did. And it was like, almost like, oh, I'm hate saying this. I'm happy right now that Kyle is having a full blown meltdown in front of everybody.

[Ria]

But here's the thing. Like, I hate saying it because if everything that didn't happen, everything that happened, didn't happen, I would see that smile and be like, you know what? She's relieved because this is the shit she deals with behind the scenes.

[Fran]

Yes.

[Ria]

And he snapped. And now she's like, oh my God, people are gonna be able to see what I have to deal with. And I'd be like, you know what? Like that's so scary for her that she's had to deal with these things. And you know, it still is because I'm sure he. Cause it's just you always have that feeling when you see a guy snap like that.

[Fran]

Mm.

[Ria]

In around friends that you're like, if he's snapping like this around friends, what is he doing when they're home by themselves?

[Fran]

Right. Exactly.

[Ria]

And it's. And that makes you think, oh, man. But it is. It is unfortunate because everyone looks at Amanda differently now than if it was like, holy shit, this is just Kyle losing it.

[Fran]

Totally.

[Ria]

And I feel like their dynamic is so. Is so complicated at this point, I think. Because I also think he does snap because he's like, you all don't see. See maybe a different side of Amanda when they're home. I don't know.

[Fran]

Yeah, I agree. I think it's very complicated now, knowing what we know. What I'm taking from this is that west leaned in to be a friend to Amanda this summer.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Fran]

And Amanda confided in west and then developed a crush because west was treating her in a way that I think she was missing from a male figure. That being Kyle and her husband.

[Ria]

Absolutely.

[Fran]

So I think. I don't think that they had begun hooking up necessarily, but I think her confiding in west, she felt like, oh, my God, this is. Oh, a guy cares about me and is showing me this affection in standing up for me and my husband. And like, she developed a crush on him.

[Ria]

Absolutely. Couldn't agree more.

[Fran]

Watching the way that Ciara was talking to Wes at this dinner couldn't have made me more uncomfortable knowing. Absolutely heartbreaking. And so uncomfortable because you can tell how happy and at. At peace she is knowing that her and west are on okay terms. And she said it herself. Like, she was like, I don't have to, like, pretend to dislike him anymore because he's actually the person I love the most here.

[Ria]

Yeah. Yeah. That was hard.

[Fran]

That was so hard to hear because I just. I can't fathom. And then on top of that, Amanda being like, if. If Ciara gave me one look, I'd cut West off immediately. I watched Jamie Lynn Siegler talk about this on Watch what Happens Live, and she said that she felt like Amanda was almost trying to convince herself of something by saying all that. Like, you know, oh, I cut west off and da, da, da, da. Because she was trying to convince herself that she didn't, like, have a crush on west or something.

[Amanda]

Right.

[Ria]

It.

[Fran]

Oh, God, I get chills talking about it. It's just really bad because watching this season is just making it worse. It's not like we don't have these things to back it. Back it up. It's like, well, now we have all these conversations about Amanda talking about Ciara and West. Then we have Ciara jumping in to give sort of like some advice about whether Kyle and Amanda should separate. People have mixed feelings on that, whether she's overstepping or not when you're on a reality show like this. And also it's just like giving. At this point, they divide everybody into their marriage. And especially on the reality show, people make commentary and also offering just advice as a friend. Like, I mean, if I had a

[Ria]

friend, she was generally trying to help too. Like, exactly.

[Fran]

If I had a friend come to me about their marital issues as often as Kyle and Amanda, I think I too would be like, hey, have you thought about this?

[Ria]

And I think I just think that's, like, for sure.

[Fran]

And at this point, friends do. I don't know.

[Ria]

At this point, I don't think she wanted to. They were probably all thinking it, like, no, you need to break up. But that's a harsh stance, and that's probably not one that they want to throw out while they're filming is like, hey, we actually all think you guys need to, like, break up. So that felt like a pretty tame version of some advice of, I think you guys need to maybe separate, just get some physical distance from each other for a little bit and just see if that helps. That really felt like it came from a genuine place of, I really care for both of you, and I don't want your marriage to end. But at this point, like, something needs to change. You can't keep going on like this.

[Fran]

Right. And Lindsay was pretty spot on when she was like, yes. But I do have to say, if I heard from somebody else that they were living in separate places and a wife felt like, like, I'd be like, it's done. Which is. Yeah, I would have the same reaction.

[Ria]

Lindsay just.

[Fran]

Oh, yeah.

[Ria]

Jarring it up.

[Fran]

She just. She just knows how to make good reality tv.

[Ria]

But her freedom dinner every year, it's a disaster. Yeah.

[Fran]

It is always something. And this year was quite something. And we kind of left on a cliffhanger with Carl and Kyle going at each other, which people have been waiting all season to see. But clearly they're fine. And that's not even really.

[Ria]

Yeah, 100% they're good.

[Fran]

Yeah. I think the reunion's gonna be three parts.

[Ria]

Yes, I saw that.

[Fran]

Saw that. So they have much to discuss. KJ was on Watch Happens Live. They asked him and Dara about the reunion. They just said it was really emotional and felt like the whole ecosystem of the family unit has been disrupted. And he read a text that west had sent him that he hadn't read yet. Andy asked him to read it before he read it out loud to make

[Ria]

sure his KJ's idea.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Ria]

He's like, should I. You want me to read it right now?

[Fran]

And then Andy was like, maybe you should read it first before you read it out loud.

[Ria]

Super fair.

[Fran]

But all things considered, pretty nice text. So.

[Ria]

I know, and I could almost. It almost seemed like Dara in the audience when after KG read the text, she was like, oh, yeah. Like, oh, you know, like, it was like, that was a nice text and, like, he hasn't opened it in weeks.

[Fran]

I thought that Jamie Lynn had a good point where she Was like, that's the energy they should have came with from the beginning of this was understanding how they hurt people and all of that. So we shall see. Reunion is around the corner. But first we gotta get through the finale and the premiere of in the City and all of those things.

[Ria]

Very close to it now. We are inching, inching closer. And we're inching closer really, to just the promo for the reunion. You know, everyone dies for that too.

[Fran]

Oh, yeah.

[Ria]

And like by the time Tuesday rolls around, the finale airs. We'll go right into the promo as well, which is gonna be, which is gonna be juicy. And they did say that for the first episode of in the City, they did pick up cameras for this stuff. So, like, that'll, we'll, we'll see that next week.

[Fran]

Yeah, that'll be extremely interesting for them.

[Ria]

If I had to guess, even just like the promo for the season or whatever, they'll, they'll throw that in there. So that's going to be juicy as well.

[Fran]

Very juicy. Before we get into the rest of today's topics, some exciting news. We will be in Charleston and Miami next week. Thursday we will be at Saltwater Cowboys in Charleston. We cannot wait.

[Ria]

Love Salt.

[Fran]

I've never been so. I'm so excited. Come hang out with us. We'll be there from 5:30 to 7:30. Cannot wait to hang out with everybody. Can't wait to have a good party. Party with Rum Haven.

[Ria]

Yes.

[Fran]

Get ready to drink and have a good time. That'll be Thursday and then Saturday. Saturday we will be at the Kimpton in Miami Beach.

[Ria]

Miami Beach.

[Fran]

Yes. And that'll be a ton of fun as well with Rum Haven. Can't wait to drink. Have a good time with everybody.

[Ria]

So be a lovely weekend.

[Fran]

It is. We're going to have a glorious weekend. Charleston and Miami, back to back. I mean, amazing. Good stuff. All right, let's get into today's topics. We're going to talk about something that we have not talked about yet. But it is, I don't know why, genuinely to me, the juiciest store going right now.

[Ria]

Yeah. And it has been for weeks.

[Fran]

Diana Rossini and Mike Vrabel affair has been revealed and this has been going on for weeks. But every day there is something new that is happening. We'll explain a little bit for people who may not know what's going on there. KJ Apa released a video. He's done with Mr. Fantasy. He's done with this guy stealing his identity. Billie Eilish and Nat Wolf make their official Red carpet premiere. We have a great interview with Joe Ellen from Real Housewives of Rhode Island. I know people have been wanting real Rhode island recap. We have been watching we talk about it with Jo Ellen and we have a great game of trivia. So let's get into it. Picture this. You got an amazing summer outfit on by Abercrombie and it's their new summer clothes full of flowy dresses, shorts and all. New swim, new reversible swim. Makes packing for vacation for vacation even easier. I love this. Perfect for mixing, matching and customizing your look. I love a reversible swim. You're getting two bathing suits or more in one mix match. Turn it around. You have multiple on vacation. They also have the A and F Dylan dress and it's a new favorite. It's bra free with removable pads in a dipped waist that's fit to flatter. And by the way, Abercrombie is having a sale right now. It's the perfect time to prep for summer. While you're shopping, use code Chicks AF for an extra 15% off almost everything else. Use code Chicks AF to get an additional 15% off almost everything in stores and online at checkout from May 7 to May 11 in US and Canada. Exclusions apply and you can see details online shop Abercrombie in the app online and in stores. So this Diana Rossini and Mike Vrabel stuff is so insane. For those who don't know, Mike Vrabel is the head coach of the Patriots. He was the head coach of the Titans. He's just been a prominent head coach for quite some time. Yeah. Diana Rossini, just like journalists, media, sports, sports all over.

[Ria]

Like she just, she talks sports.

[Fran]

She's just worked at a couple of different places.

[Ria]

Insider, journalist, writer. She, she's one of the, you know, she gets those inside scoops. Yes. She's an NFL insider and now everyone's real insider. Everyone's saying, now we know where, where those inside scoops are coming from.

[Fran]

Right, Exactly. Which is not good. Yeah. But this has been going on for weeks now. They were spotted at a hotel together and that kind of sparked the. Okay, this is looking like this is more than just.

[Ria]

Right. The original pictures. Like they're touching.

[Fran]

Yeah. They're looking happy to be together.

[Ria]

And they tried to claim that they were like on a trip with friends separately, but ran into each other. The groups were hanging out.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Ria]

And everyone said no one's buying that.

[Fran]

Right. And now more and more has come out like it's just non stop.

[Ria]

She resigned from her job. And now especially on the Twitter side of it, it's like people are just finding things every day.

[Fran]

Well, she named her son Michael during the time in which he had been seeing Mike Vrabel. Because now everyone's coming with receipts.

[Ria]

Receipts.

[Fran]

I said receipts.

[Ria]

Routine receipts.

[Fran]

Yeah, receipts. They were spotted at a bar together six years ago back in 2020.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Fran]

Being touchy and handsy. They were on a boat together. They both signed for a boat together in 2021. They. She was sharing this. This to me was the craziest one yet. She made a playlist on Spotify that she shared with Mike Grable after the Titans won a four game losing streak. And one of those songs was Break youk Soul by Beyonce. And I don't know why to me that just stuck with me that she was like, hey Mike, just listen to this.

[Ria]

I won't break your soul. What was the name of the playlist again? It was like something about just getting the vibes.

[Fran]

But yeah, we need the exact name.

[Noah]

But turning the page.

[Ria]

Turning the page.

[Fran]

Yep.

[Ria]

And all the songs were just like

[Fran]

pump up motivational songs. Break your soul. Being on there being like these four

[Ria]

games losses and won't break your soul.

[Fran]

Mike.

[Ria]

I mean he. She basically like burned a mixtape for like she burned a tape for him.

[Fran]

It was so renegade. And then on top of that, he. It was shared with a guy named Mike. And then he changed his Spotify name to a combination of his two kids names. Yeah. So everyone was like, we know it's you. You combined both your kids names and made it one name. This is, this is old people with technology. Yeah. You know. Right, right, right. He was like, I was. Combined my two kids names. People never know.

[Ria]

Yeah, people, People know like why it.

[Fran]

This. It just gets more insane as the days go on that like this was going on for so long. Six years at this point that we know of. It's. We were talking about this. Feels like her husband hired a PI to just get all the information. Has just been like, drop here, drop there, this happened here. And on top of that, compilations of her just totally disrespecting her husband in every. In every form. Calling him average looking, saying, you know, if my husband wasn't average looking, I'd post him.

[Ria]

If my husband was hot, I'd be posting him all the time. But my husband's just like average.

[Fran]

Telling my mom says my. My marriage is over. I did things in Miami.

[Ria]

She talked about her marriage all the time like that.

[Fran]

I. I did things in Miami. I would never Tell my husband about. I'm like, oh, the digital footprint is not good. It is not good at all.

[Ria]

And this is so funny to me because it really is. It goes so deep where it's like, who could possibly be digging up this information unless it is someone very close in their personal lives? That's like, I want everything. Because this last story of them, like, renting a boat while she was pregnant just months before she gave birth to her first child. It was a year after they were spotted, spotted in that New York City bar, that in June 2021, they reportedly rented a boat for two to three hours in Tennessee. Documents obtained by TMZ showed that they were allegedly the only people on the boat. Both signed a waiver before boarding the vessel. So, like, this just, like, cracked me up because it's like this. This is so deep. It's to find from years ago that they both signed waivers to go on some boat together in Tennessee, it says. The outlet reported that the duo was cautious about photos being taken, while Rossini refusing. Refusing to take photos with staff, and Vrabel only allowing one photo to be taken with a request not to post it publicly.

[Fran]

It's so wild. I mean, he was with his high school, like, sweetheart, right? His wife. They had been together for a really long time.

[Ria]

I think so.

[Amanda]

Yeah.

[Fran]

Can we get a fact check on that?

[Ria]

No. Look that up for us, because I

[Fran]

feel like there's a lot of things, like, being thrown out, but it's. It's so disgusting on. On both ends.

[Ria]

Naming her son Michael is diabolical.

[Fran]

It's.

[Ria]

It is. Next. Diabolical.

[Noah]

They met at Ohio State.

[Ria]

Oh, they met at Ohio State.

[Fran]

Okay, so college.

[Ria]

College.

[Fran]

College sweethearts.

[Ria]

College sweethearts.

[Fran]

But at this point, that's a long, long time ago. Like, they have been together a long time.

[Ria]

Poor Kevin. That's Diana's husband. And it's just like, it would be, you know, Kevin.

[Fran]

You're like, oh, Kevin. The name being Kevin.

[Ria]

Yeah, Kevin Goldschmidt.

[Fran]

What a poor Kevin. It just is at this point, though, it had been going on for so long. You say to yourself, why didn't you guys just be to leave your spouses and be together if you wanted to be together that bad? Like, I don't think they did that. Kept this up for this long. Going on public excursions, Spotify playlists.

[Ria]

It's all so disgusting. I know, I know. And it's in my mind, too. It's like it feels as if the sneaking around was what they fueling them, you know, like, it Wasn't like. Cause at that point, it's so many years where it's like, if you really were desperately in love with each other, perhaps you do blow up your life.

[Fran]

Right.

[Ria]

But it's like, you're like, I can't take it anymore.

[Fran]

I must be with you.

[Ria]

But like, every once in a while, just like once a year, you guys just have a little rendezvous somewhere.

[Fran]

How'd they keep up this facade for so long? I don't know. Like, that is scary to me.

[Ria]

And there was a. And I'm going to forget her name. There's an NFL reporter, and I think she got fired after she said this.

[Fran]

Yes, she did.

[Ria]

But basically after this news came out, like, she put out publicly, like, you know, kind of like, glad she finally got caught sort of message, which obviously raised eyebrows, that it's like, oh, behind the scenes, what are people talking about? What have they seen? What have they heard? Because from this woman's perspective, it was like, it's such a. Leaves such a bad taste for women in this field. And she was like, I'm done with this, and I'm glad she's gone because she's making a bad name for women journalists in sports.

[Fran]

Yeah, totally.

[Ria]

And I believe she got fired.

[Fran]

Yeah. Which is crazy to me. That she got fired.

[Ria]

I found it. Chrissy Freud. She was fired by the USA Today after she publicly criticized and made unverified allegations against Diana Rossini following her resignation from the Athletic. She tweeted, don't let the door hit you on the way out, and made allegations concerning her professional conduct and personal life. And I'm like, sorry, if somebody's gonna. Some. If another female reporter is gonna throw that out there. It's like, well, the ladies have been talking for a long time.

[Fran]

Maybe it's just frustrated. Like, hey, we all know that could be really frustrating.

[Ria]

Yeah, it definite. So I feel like this just ran. This just ran so deep. And now I wonder if just people that have seen them in different settings are like, digging into their own personal files to be like, wait a second, I saw Mike Vrabel at a bar at this time and. Or on this thing and he was maybe with. Was. Was that Diana Rossini was there with him. It's fucking crazy.

[Fran]

Wild. I feel like 1999, he's been married. Yeah. That's so sad. That is so disgusting and so sad. His poor wife. Like, everyone being dragged into this is so disgusting. Oh, God. But it just gets crazier and crazier. She has way more because she works online. She's Way more of a digital footprint than Mike Frable than I. That. I think that is why a lot of the discussion has become about her, because there had just been very, very questionable posts. Like, she tweeted, you know, like, I forget the exact tweet, but it was about her naming her son Michael and was like, I'm just thinking about the top head coach's name, Mike. It's like, dude, what? Like, as you're banging Mike Vrabel and naming your son Michael, it's so diabolical. Obviously, Mike Vrabel just as to blame. He has not the digital footprint that she has to kind of go back on and be like, oh, he was saying all this, but there's past interviews of them together and there's interviews of

[Noah]

her asking him about his wife.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Ria]

It's so sick.

[Fran]

It is really, genuinely fucking sick, the two of them.

[Ria]

I know. And you know what's even more sick? It seems like some of the Patriot fans have just rallied around him. They have.

[Fran]

He's gonna stand an ovation.

[Ria]

Fucking stand in ovation. He's coming out to talk to fans.

[Fran]

But that's what's so.

[Ria]

Like that.

[Fran]

That's off and messed up because obviously everyone's coming for Diana Rossini, but then everyone's like, Mike Rainbow, yes to a Super Bowl. Like, it's so crazy. I know what.

[Ria]

That. That just grinds my gears because it's like they are equally to blame. Like, her life gets flipped upside down for this. Obviously, she leaves her job. All these things is going to follow her around forever. It's been like a month, and Vrabel's getting a fucking standing. Oh. Talking to Patriots fans. It's like, oh, God, it's such an eye.

[Fran]

It really is really. It's really mind blowing. It really is.

[Ria]

And it's not good. Like, he'll. He'll keep coaching me till I was.

[Fran]

I was. No, I genuinely was talking about this the other day. I'm like, I don't understand why. Because people are trying to justify him keeping his job but her not having a job. I'm like, there's no justification if. Because they're like, oh, she was getting inside scoop. Where was the inside scoop coming from him? Yeah, he was leaking it to her. So why is he not.

[Ria]

I know. Well, it's her with her job is conflict of interest with him.

[Fran]

It's a conflict of interest for him to be leaking information. I don't understand the double standard there. It makes zero sense to me. I don't. There's no justification for it. I don't understand it.

[Ria]

I know. I agree. I think it's crazy.

[Fran]

I'm sweating through my gray shirt now, but it's so. It's wild. The double standard is. Is so crazy.

[Ria]

The video of him getting that standing out, I couldn't believe it was. I couldn't believe it.

[Fran]

Shock.

[Ria]

Giving him a standing ovation. No.

[Fran]

And I think it's because, like, what I said before is that there's no digital footprint from him and there's just so much from her. So people just are, like, putting everything on her.

[Ria]

It is.

[Fran]

They are equally disgusting in this. Oh, God. But. Oh, my God. Some of it. It's not funny, but some of it, you just like the Spotify playlist. You're like, right, look.

[Ria]

I mean, that's why the conspiracy of, like, me. The conspiracy of somebody hiring a PI and just like, because it's not like all this information is coming out at one time. It's. Once a week there's a new drop that. That they found some past evidence of them being together. So it's like every week there's something new. Right.

[Fran]

When we were talking about it earlier and I said to you, I said, I think we gotta talk about.

[Ria]

I know.

[Fran]

Too much information.

[Ria]

Yeah, I know.

[Fran]

The boat charter

[Ria]

just right.

[Fran]

So wild. It really is.

[Ria]

You know, you never think those waivers are going to be seen by anybody when you sign them, when you go on a boat, but they keep those files.

[Fran]

Thinking back to when we signed as Noah's legal guardian for the Fiji boat charter. Oh, man. Wild stuff. Wild. I'm sure more will come out because every week there's something.

[Ria]

Right. Every week it seems like there's something new.

[Fran]

Yeah. KJ Appa released a very funny video yesterday. You know, playing into the. He's mad about Mr. Fantasy. And a ton of actors and actresses commented on the video being like, this is so disgusting. Like, identity theft is so joke. Zoe Deutsch comped like, I. I'm so sorry I did that music video with him. Like, now that I know that what you're going through. I'm so sorry. It was all so funny. And the shocking thing to me is that people think he was serious.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Amanda]

Yeah.

[Jo Ellen]

Like, we.

[Fran]

We have a big problem.

[Ria]

This is a big bit, guys. We have a big bit.

[Fran]

We have a big problem on our hands that people think that this was serious and that they still don't think that KJ Apa is Mr. Fantasy. Right, right, right.

[Ria]

I mean, we have two eyeballs and a brain.

[Fran]

You know, let's just be a little bit smarter here.

[Ria]

They're the same person.

[Fran]

They're the same person.

[Ria]

This is a whole. It's a whole bit. It's hysterical. And it's getting the people talking.

[Fran]

He's getting all his friends to comment and be like, I am so sorry.

[Ria]

And they're getting all of his friends to do the music video in the first place.

[Fran]

They're getting a kick out of this online. Laughing at this is probably the whole plan. They are laughing at everyone behind the scenes being like, can you believe people still don't think that this is you? Like that. We just need to come to terms that it is 1000% him. And this is one long bit.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Fran]

And it's a funny one and it's a good one.

[Ria]

It's a very funny one.

[Fran]

And he is so funny and he is crushing it.

[Ria]

When he's asked about it in interviews and stuff, he's like, I don't want to talk about that guy.

[Noah]

I'm not really familiar with his acting work in movies.

[Fran]

Riverdale.

[Noah]

Never seen it. But, like, this was great, this clip that he put out. I was like, wow, this is some solid acting.

[Fran]

It did make me laugh. I know. It was like, he was just like, really good acting. And I was like, well, he is an actor.

[Noah]

Yeah, but not all, like, I don't know, like, if everyone could point out,

[Ria]

fortunately, he's got this. The he's gonna remember we're talking about that they're doing that. This It's a Wonderful Life movie he's playing. And everyone was like, play. He's playing Jimmy Stewart. And everyone's like, oh, yeah, I love it. I left him in the map that leads to you.

[Fran]

That was a good one, too.

[Ria]

That was a good one.

[Fran]

Klein was commenting.

[Ria]

She, as she did, she commented, identity theft is not a joke. I'm so sorry. Taylor Laudner wrote, I was a huge fan of his, but, man, you're right, this has to end.

[Fran]

It's all been very funny. This was really, really got a good kick out of this yesterday. And I'm getting even more of a kick out of people, like, still not getting that he's kidding.

[Ria]

Terry Cough wrote, bro, I've never met you before, but I feel bad now that I become so close with someone who has become a legend in so many lives. I hope you guys can find a middle ground. Prayers to you.

[Fran]

It's funny.

[Ria]

Oh, man, it is very funny. But then it's also like, then there's sub comments where I'm like, oh, I hope they're in on the. Like, Molly Ringwald wrote. It's ugg. It's so creepy. Love you, kj.

[Fran]

Right.

[Ria]

Everybody. And everybody, like, everybody is. They're all in on it.

[Fran]

When it's somebody older, you're just hoping, like, Molly Riddle, you're like, okay, well, I hope that she was made.

[Ria]

Was she in the music video? No, but she played their. Who's Perrin on Riverdale?

[Fran]

Oh, she knows. Yeah, she knows his mom.

[Amanda]

No.

[Ria]

Whose mom did he play on Riverdale?

[Fran]

I stopped Riverdale, like, pretty early on.

[Ria]

She was on Am I making it up? No.

[Noah]

I saw a tweet yesterday that was like, thank God Riverdale came out before, like, AI.

[Ria]

She was Archie's mom.

[Noah]

She didn't because accused that show of just being AI written. But they're like, no, they were actual writers writing.

[Fran]

So this was really thought up by them. That is funny.

[Ria]

Gosh.

[Fran]

So many.

[Ria]

So many as. I'm praying for you.

[Fran]

So funny. Just a solid bit.

[Ria]

It's some good stuff.

[Fran]

It really is.

[Noah]

How long is he gonna, like, keep.

[Ria]

That's what's. That's what's so funny about it is like, how long does he keep this going?

[Fran]

No plans to end it.

[Ria]

No. And it's smart because it's introducing a lot of people to Mr. Fantasy and Vice versa.

[Fran]

Exactly. Last topic, Billie Eilish and Nat Wolf confirmed on the red carpet she was on Good hang with Amy Poehler this week. It's a great listen.

[Ria]

So good. I love her.

[Fran]

Me too. I really love Billie Eilish and she's just so stunning. She is like, just naturally a stunning person. And I love watching her talk. And it was so interesting hearing her talk about her Tourette's and her tics as well and sort of just like what she deals with and other people deal with and how we can't even understand it when you don't know. I found that to be incredibly interesting. Amy Poehler is just so good in conversation with everybody. Just gets the best out of them. But yeah, I love Billie. And this is a cute couple.

[Ria]

Like, I really love that. I think they're absolutely fudgeing adorable.

[Fran]

Now that we've know it's kind of been going on, it's not as unexpected, but originally it was pretty unexpected.

[Ria]

Yeah. And I think it was one of those things where they had been friends for a while. So that was like plausible deniability. Deniability. Yeah, that's. Thank you. My brain just went, yeah, no, that's.

[Fran]

Yeah, that's fine. I didn't even know that. That would be something to be used in this conversation anyway.

[Ria]

Right. So fair.

[Fran]

I like it, though.

[Ria]

You can defer to being, oh, we're friends.

[Fran]

We've been friends for so long.

[Ria]

Whatever. And even if that's the case. That is the case. I love. I love a friendship to lovers story.

[Fran]

A trope, you know, Friendship to lovers trope.

[Ria]

I just love the friendship to lovers trope. And it's nice. Cause you know the person, and then, you know, one day one of them makes a move and you're like, oh, my God. You see him in a different light. It's a beautiful thing. Now they're walking the carpet together. It's crazy.

[Fran]

Car probably sings out to her.

[Noah]

Yeah.

[Ria]

I would ask him to do that.

[Fran]

Yeah, me too.

[Ria]

Because I feel like she probably really enjoyed Naked Brothers. Naked Brothers Band. She seemed like somebody that would probably been watching that show.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Ria]

You know, and hearing her story, I just loved it so much. Amy just cracks me up too, because when she's, like, reading some of her lyrics and she's like, I mean, how

[Fran]

do you write these lyrics?

[Ria]

That was.

[Fran]

That was making me laugh. And I.

[Ria]

It was.

[Fran]

It sparked an interesting conversation online about Amy Poehler's past relationships when she was saying that she related to certain lyrics and people forgetting that she and Will are.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Fran]

Like, that is something that flies under the radar.

[Ria]

Yeah. Did they ever get married?

[Fran]

They think. I believe they were married.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Fran]

Yeah, Yeah. I couldn't believe.

[Ria]

No, I think you're right. I think they're divorced because their kids are his kids.

[Noah]

Yeah. They were married for 13 years.

[Fran]

That's a long time. I think him and his girlfriend recently saw that too. Yeah.

[Ria]

Behind closed doors. I'm intrigued by him, you know?

[Amanda]

Yeah.

[Fran]

When we. When they released that smartless live show documentary, you got a good look at the. Behind the scenes of the three of them.

[Ria]

Definitely. But. And so I. It was really. It was just such a great interview. The story of her hamster in the wall, like, coming out is just really, really funny. If you didn't listen to it, I recommend. But it just me, like, I feel she seems to be in such a great place and so happy in her life right now. And that makes me happy that I see them on the carpet for the. For the concert movie, and they're. They're hugging. I'm like, oh, my God, they're so cute. I agree.

[Fran]

Because Billie Eilish's documentary from years ago, she had a boyfriend who was no good to her. And I think we can hear that in her songs. And we saw that in the documentary, so it does feel she is in a solid place right now. And that makes me so happy for her. And they are just adorable.

[Ria]

Absolutely.

[Fran]

All right, that wraps up the topics.

[Ria]

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[Fran]

Mmm.

[Ria]

Take a sip. It is so good. You really get that same Pepsi taste that we all love. So you gotta make sure you are getting your Pepsi Prebiotic Cola and try it out with us. It is available now. So go out there, try it. You're gonna love it. It's delicious. So make sure you're drinking along with us your Pepsi Prebiotic Cola.

[Fran]

All right, everyone. We are here with a very special guest. We are joined by Joe Ellen from Real Housewives of Rhode island, our new favorite on Bravo. Slash peacock. We are so excited to talk to you today. We have been absolutely loving Real Housewives of Rhode Island. It's. It's really our new favorite.

[Ria]

It is.

[Fran]

And you guys are off to a hot start. It's very hot in the streets already. How are you feeling?

[Jo Ellen]

I. I mean, the show is amazing. It's so funny. Like, we had so much fun filming it, and the. All the fans have been amazing. They're loving the show. So yay.

[Fran]

So good.

[Ria]

What do you think is working for you guys so far? Because it can be hit or miss with the new Housewives franchise. And right away, it feels like it's mostly working.

[Jo Ellen]

Yeah. No, I think that us having genuine connections and knowing each other, that's a big differentiator between some of the other series. I mean, we've known each other, some of us, since, like, you know, I've known a couple of girls since high school or even longer. Liz has known Alicia since she was a baby. I mean, there's genuine connections, so there's a Lot of truth. And we know each other, so that's. That can be good and bad.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Fran]

And you can tell right off the bat. I mean, it makes it so good. And especially within the first episode, we have accusations. We have Alicia talking about running over a woman, which she has cleared up on Watch what Happens Live. Thankfully, Andy asked her. And we got to the bottom of that story. And just, you know, the Italian of it all as well is another added funny layer, because I think, you know, Real Housewives of New Jersey's been off the air for a little bit now. And now that we're getting Rhode island, it's like, oh, we're getting. We're getting our fix. It's a big one.

[Jo Ellen]

We're getting that Italian fix. I mean, there's this. It's just. It's our personalities. It's the attitudes. We. It's. It definitely. It's like a sister or a cousin of New Jersey.

[Fran]

And the family dynamic always comes in strong and makes the drama that much more interesting.

[Ria]

It does.

[Jo Ellen]

Absolutely.

[Ria]

It does. And that's what made, like, I feel like that's what made New Jersey so great is because the same kind of thing, they were either related or they known each other for forever. So it's all connected. But I feel like you guys are so authentic with what you're sharing right away, which is great. And everyone like, that.

[Jo Ellen]

Some of us game.

[Ria]

Yeah, yeah, right. That first game, I forget where you guys were. The picnic you're sitting at. Not the picnic. You were sitting at table and you were playing a game of, like, you had to write down a question and it was like.

[Fran]

And everyone.

[Ria]

You, you, everyone wrote down, like, the. The darkest question they could ask everybody. What did you guys think in that moment? Like, oh, we're sharing everything on this show.

[Jo Ellen]

You know what? All the questions that were read were my questions to people. And I was like, oh, shit. Like, that's not great. You know, it's. We want to get things out there. And I almost, like, for me, I'd rather, like, fall on the sword and, like, take ownership of my stuff. Like, I'm not. I don't pretend to be like, this kind, nice, perfect, angelic woman. Like, no. Like, I'm messy and I own it. So. Most of us own our behaviors on the show. Not everyone.

[Fran]

What was the biggest surprise to you from filming? Because this is all brand new.

[Jo Ellen]

I mean, everything was just a shock. I didn't realize how long and how many hours we would have to film and, like, you know, a three, four hour scene. Gets cut down to two minutes. I'm like, you forgot my funny in that one. So, no, it was just like. It was just different. And I mean, I'm fine in front of the camera. Gary, my husband, like, he's awful in front of the camera. He's so awkward. And I love it because he'll be like, wait, I'm gonna put my hand here. I'm like, there's no cut. There's no, like, stop. We're just rolling and just keep on going with it.

[Fran]

Yeah, they're not gonna re cut this for your hair hand placement.

[Jo Ellen]

Right.

[Fran]

Actually, they're gonna prefer for you to mess it up.

[Jo Ellen]

The more awkward and embarrassing. The more you mess up your words, the better it is for them. And I learned that the hard way.

[Fran]

How high were the nerves for Premiere?

[Jo Ellen]

You know, I think that initially we went into this and we're like, is this gonna happen? Is this gonna happen? And then finally they just quickly gave the green light. They're like, we're doing it. There was no filming in advance to see if they liked it. This was like, we're doing it. We filmed it. And then we're like, oh, my God, when is it coming out? Is it gonna be this summer? Is it gonna be like the fall? Like, when? And then. So it was such a good surprise that it was a spring.

[Ria]

I don't know.

[Jo Ellen]

The nerves aren't bad. We knew what happened in it.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Jo Ellen]

There's not anything that really surprises me so far. I mean, some people are a little shadier in their interviews.

[Fran]

I was gonna say, how about the confessionals?

[Ria]

100.

[Fran]

I feel like that's where you get that.

[Ria]

But, like, not. It's not necessarily everybody, but there's somewhere. But here's the thing. I feel like with you, you say it in your confessional, but you'll say

[Jo Ellen]

it to their face 100%.

[Ria]

Like, they're which. And, you know, kind of. I'm not gonna just immediately call her out. Cause I do. I like her on the show. But Rosie, I feel like it gets very sassy in her confessionals and not as much in person.

[Jo Ellen]

I agree with you. I agree with you on that one. That one surprised me. I think, watching the show that, you know, I think I went into the season with Rosie and we weren't on great terms, and I was just like, I don't care for her. And then at the end of the season, like, we make. You know, we're fine and I tolerate her. And we're okay. We're cordial. We're good. We're friends. But I. Seeing a couple of her little shady comments, like, oh, I don't be fake. Like, Joanne, you don't want to be fake.

[Ria]

You are the.

[Fran]

You know.

[Jo Ellen]

Yeah, well, sometimes I.

[Ria]

And it doesn't. It comes off, like, a little transparent in my mind too, because it's a new franchise. But when you guys are. When she immediately is in the confessional, and it's like, you say something sassy. You say something sassy. Take the sip of your drink. You look right in the camera. Like, it's like you're. You're. I'm like, you're playing it. Maybe we love when people play into it, but maybe just a tad too much.

[Jo Ellen]

I see what you mean. I know what you're talking about. Like, you know, I do see her doing that in a few of them. Like, almost like a mic drop moment. Rua thinks she does the mic drop moment.

[Ria]

Yes. Yes.

[Jo Ellen]

You're not dropping a mic. You're dropping a marriage girl.

[Ria]

I don't know.

[Fran]

We'll get into that. So you address what was going on with Rula. Hearing affair rumors, and then you addressed the fact that they tried to get you fired from your job, which was a big deal. So where do you stand with that? Like, will you continue. Continue to call people out for the rumors that you hear, or now that this happened, are you, like, I'm just gonna take a step back and let people figure their marriages out?

[Jo Ellen]

You know, I'm somebody that, like, I call it like it is if somebody's lying. I think that somebody deserves to know if their husband is cheating on them. That's. That's being a girl's girl. That's just being a good human being and friend. Rula definitely did not want to believe it. It's not that I don't think it's that she didn't want to hear it. I think she just was like, that's not true. You're lying. You're lying. I need more proof. I'm like, here's a picture of them. That's not enough. That could be AI. Here's the text with your. Nope, that's not. You know, so, you know, there ends up being a video, obviously, right?

[Ria]

The situation with the. With the polo match, do you. You guys all kind of thought he was making up. Brian was making up some sort of, like, family emergency.

[Jo Ellen]

I actually was, like, one of the only people that believed him. I was like, no one would lie. I. Like, my dad passed. It was like, no one would lie on a sick Parent. That's bad karma, like. And he was lying. And so he. I am friendly with one of the mistress's friends and I'm cordial with them. I'm friendly with her too. And so they were sending me while I was on the Sprinter van, like these texts of Brian being like, I'm coming to get you. I'm coming to see you. And so he wasn't going to the mother. And then Rula kind of said, oh, well, I had to be at home because my father, like, there was just lie after lie. Brian lied the ring on, the ring off. I was doing my kids hair when. Yeah, you didn't go home to see your kid. It was just so many lies. He tells Gary, I'm talking to the mistress right now. He tells Rule, I wasn't. I talked to her yesterday. I'm like, you banged her yesterday? Like, what do you mean? That's a big difference, you know?

[Ria]

So it's so crazy to me, and I guess it's what makes TV messy. But, like, why do you think they signed up to do a reality show like this?

[Jo Ellen]

Honestly, you know that all the skeletons, all the secrets are coming out. I know that about myself and it is what it is. But I'll fall on that sword and I'll own it. I own my shit. I don't know why he would ever have said yes knowing that he was in a two and a half year relationship, in love, giving his girlfriend a ring, saying, I'm marrying you, you're the love of my life. Why would you. I just think he's just a cruel human being. And I feel for Rula because I think she's a good person, but either she was naive or maybe they have like an open marriage. I don't know. Maybe there's like an arrangement, like, don't ask, don't tell, say that then.

[Fran]

Or maybe she signed up thinking, well, clearly if I sign up, I'm not hiding anything. You know, like, he's walking down the

[Jo Ellen]

street holding her hand. Like, I mean, you. They're in our country, but she's posting

[Ria]

pictures on her own Instagram of the two of them.

[Jo Ellen]

Yes.

[Ria]

That's crazy.

[Jo Ellen]

But he's taking that like, yeah, right.

[Ria]

Like kisses in them.

[Jo Ellen]

Hiding this. Not like. Like he was okay with it.

[Ria]

There were some rumors that she was maybe gonna like crash filming or make an appearance.

[Jo Ellen]

Do you think she was not going to? I know that because I told her, don't. So she was not going to. He. From what I was told by her, that he was like, I don't want to film anymore. I don't want to do this, and I want to be with you. And I'm going to go to the polo match, and I'm going to say Rula, like, listen, I want to be with her. I love her. That didn't obviously play out. That didn't happen, but, you know, it's a really difficult situation. He just doubles down on, like, I'm not doing anything. I'm like, I have proof. Like, you can't lie about this, especially when you know it's true. And the whole entire state knows.

[Fran]

Right.

[Ria]

And they seem to be together still.

[Jo Ellen]

Yeah, they do.

[Fran]

So you told the mistress, do not show up to film me.

[Jo Ellen]

I don't think she was going to, but I. You know, I had heard that that was a possibility. She wasn't going to. I. I feel bad because it puts me in an awkward situation, like, you know, rules on the show. I. I've known the mistress for 10 years. I have to call her that because we can't say her name. I know.

[Fran]

I know.

[Ria]

It is. So I feel like. It feels weird because it's like. It's like his girlfriend. Like, you know, like, it's his girlfriend.

[Jo Ellen]

I knew his girlfriend for 10 years. And, you know, they were. They were together for years, and it's like a known thing. You know, they work together. They. They had a business together. Like, I don't know.

[Fran]

And I feel like Rhode island is one of those places where everybody knows everything about each other.

[Jo Ellen]

Yes.

[Fran]

You know, like, it's a small place, and rumors fly or not, so. Rumors.

[Jo Ellen]

It's like your town is our entire state, so we all know each other, and everyone's like, mess.

[Ria]

That first episode of Alicia's Family being, like, so far away. They're like, it's like, it's 15 minutes.

[Jo Ellen]

No, like, that's true.

[Ria]

That's. Is that. That's a long distance for driving. If you have to go 15 minutes,

[Jo Ellen]

like, you have to pack some snacks.

[Fran]

30 minutes, like, funny.

[Jo Ellen]

You have to, like, prepare mentally. You're going 35.

[Ria]

So another. Another thing that I saw some commentary on is, like, the beaches of Rhode Island. We're seeing you guys do these picnics of these stuff on the beach, and everyone's like, okay, the beaches on Rhode island are gorgeous. Where are these ladies going? Did you have to film in different locations?

[Jo Ellen]

So initially, I think some of the places were a little hesitant to allow us to film. They're thinking, like, something bad's gonna happen. So some places did say no. So some of the places that say said yes wouldn't have been my choice.

[Fran]

Beach.

[Jo Ellen]

I will say that being from Rhode island, that is not exactly a beach where we had a picnic. It's. It's like a campground that Rosie picked out. But we made it. Rhode Island's beautiful no matter where you go. So even if it's that small little park beach, like, it still looked pretty.

[Fran]

It did make me laugh because they kind of framed it in a way where it was like, newbie Ashley eyes favorite be. It's like, this is your favorite beach to go to, Ashley.

[Jo Ellen]

And I'm like, it has like, a poor Ashland. That's like, that's. That really is her favorite beach. That one is real. That she asked for that because she loves taking her kids there. There's like, no, there's not waves. It's like a. Like a pond. It almost looks like a pond.

[Fran]

Right. She mentioned that she was like, I love taking bikes, which makes sense, seeing your kids there because of the aspect and everything. And then on top of that, pizza chips. Didn't know they exist, but I feel like I have to try them. I've also never been to Rhode island, which this show had me really looking into taking a weekend trip to Rhode Island.

[Jo Ellen]

You need to. Especially in the summer.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Jo Ellen]

I'm in Newport.

[Fran]

I'm really thinking about it. Never been. But literally, because of the show, I've been like, I think I got to take a trip.

[Jo Ellen]

You have to.

[Fran]

And I need pizza chips.

[Jo Ellen]

You have to get. You have to get Dave that one bite. Everyone. Like, he needs to try pizza chips. He's gonna be like, this is not what I'm used to.

[Fran]

Eat the cheese and everything. But I like the idea of it.

[Jo Ellen]

You know what? It's like a snack. It's not like a meal. Does that make sense?

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Jo Ellen]

Appetizer.

[Fran]

Yes, exactly.

[Ria]

I love the idea that you guys are right now.

[Fran]

What.

[Ria]

We're seeing you guys on a trip to Newport and. Which is so funny to me because it's like we're going on a trip to Newport 30 minutes away.

[Jo Ellen]

Right.

[Ria]

So it's like a road trip.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Ria]

Right.

[Fran]

So that's just. You can go to Newport any time, but you don't.

[Jo Ellen]

That kind of the vibe. Newport's far for us.

[Fran]

That is so crazy to me.

[Jo Ellen]

Like, that's like a big day. Like, if I'm going to Newport with my husband, like, we're like, celebrating our, like, anniversary. We got married.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Jo Ellen]

Like at the mansion. Yeah. So it's just. It's out of the way.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Jo Ellen]

They're beautiful.

[Ria]

I love this. The Mansion walks. Like, my favorite thing to do on the water.

[Jo Ellen]

Yeah.

[Ria]

Yeah. 30 minutes cannot. It's a special occasion only.

[Fran]

We're traveling 30 minutes to go uptown or downtown.

[Jo Ellen]

I would die. I was sitting in traffic, and I'm like, I could never. Like, I could never live in New York City and do the walking. And then what if there's no elevator? I'm out of breath, like, walking down the hall to this room. Like, I never do it.

[Fran]

Like, this is a big office.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Fran]

Wow.

[Ria]

Well, you're definitely sharing your whole life. You're opening up from, you know, stuff from your childhood, your family, your relationship with your mom. A lot of people have focused in on the relationship with your sister and your husband. What do you have to say to the. To the viewers that think perhaps your sister's vying for your husband?

[Jo Ellen]

I mean, everyone's like, she stole her sister's boyfriend. They never dated. They never kissed. He touched her boobs one time. I'm like, oh, my God. Like, I don't. Like, everyone touches boobs. Like, you know, like, God. It's not a big deal. She is not just my sister. You know, it's a weird family joke, and I get it. And it probably looks odd to everyone, but, like, it's my best friend, and my sister's best friend's my husband. Like, we're all best friends. They would never hook up. Honestly. Like, they could have to do it so much. Like, leave me alone. But no, they are not hooking up. They never have. So that's not a thing. But I have gotten a lot of DMs. Like, I have to tell you, they are. He is. Ma. No, he's not. Oh, my God. I promise. I promise you he's not.

[Ria]

I feel like it just lands in a funny territory where they're like, if he's not. It looks like she wants to.

[Jo Ellen]

It may look like she, like, wore my dress in the scene. I'm like, why would you wear a dress like that in the scene? Why would you say that? Why would you say. You want his firm? People are going to come for you. You are so stupid.

[Ria]

She was like, I'm making good tv.

[Jo Ellen]

She loves you guys, by the way.

[Ria]

Oh, my God.

[Jo Ellen]

Oh, my God.

[Ria]

I love it.

[Jo Ellen]

We. I love.

[Ria]

We got to do some. I want to go to Providence.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Ria]

Something. Yeah. And also, you're sharing so much about your mom. How has she felt sort of watching the show? Is she watching the show?

[Jo Ellen]

She's watching the Show. She's, like, fangirling more than anyone I've ever met.

[Ria]

Amazing.

[Jo Ellen]

She is. She's like, don't you dare talk bad about me to Andy Cohen or I'm not gonna watch your kids. I'm like, that's not.

[Ria]

Or I'm not gonna watch your kids.

[Jo Ellen]

I'm like, I don't know, Mom. You might not like the next episode coming up. Yeah, you know, I really go into it. I had a tougher upbringing. I got sent away a few times. My sister got sent away. She got it worse. I mean, she went to wilderness camp.

[Ria]

Yeah, I was gonna say. When you say get sent away, where?

[Fran]

Elaborate.

[Jo Ellen]

So, like, this wasn't, like, summer camp. This was, like, during the school year, Jen went to this wilderness program for, like. Like Paris Hilton.

[Ria]

Yeah, I was gonna say, is it sort of Paris Hilton like mine?

[Jo Ellen]

I went to three different places, and they were really bad. Like, the people there, they weren't just mentally ill. They were, like convicts. They were like kids that instead of going to, like, juvie, they would get sent to these programs. And I'm just sitting here being like, I showed my boobs in school or something. You know, I got suspended. I punched a girl in the face. Like that. That's not, like, outlandish teenage stuff. Like, that's, like. That's expected.

[Fran]

You don't, like, get sent away. You don't leave your home for a

[Jo Ellen]

year and a half.

[Fran]

Right now.

[Ria]

Were you punching people in high school?

[Jo Ellen]

I was.

[Fran]

Okay.

[Jo Ellen]

Now I'm a mom, and I say no violence. I don't know. There may be a couple times. But no, I. Yeah, I got in fights in high school, definitely.

[Fran]

But the people that you were surrounded by when you went away, you were like, oh, they. They've done way worse things than what I'm here for.

[Jo Ellen]

I mean, like, people were getting restrained. They were like. It was, like, heavy, and it was really sad and, like, you know, I was, like, a straight A student. Like, I didn't make sense because I told my mom to shut up. I wasn't even getting drunk yet. That happened later in years in high school.

[Ria]

Being a bitchy teenage girl.

[Jo Ellen]

Yeah. Like, I'm like, no, mom, you shut up. Like, yeah, get over it. Like, I climbed out the window. Like, that's not the end of the world. Like, I feel like that's normal teenage stuff. And I don't know if she just couldn't handle it or she's like, you gave me a run for my money. I'm like, you should have just loved me. Like, you know, it's sad, but now that I have kids, I'm like, I could never do this to them.

[Ria]

Right?

[Jo Ellen]

So, you know, you live and you learn, and she still doesn't get better very much, but I tolerate her. I don't have to anymore. Now I don't have to see her on a daily basis. So, like, that's great. I have to see my kids.

[Fran]

But, like, she's gonna hear this.

[Amanda]

I don't care.

[Ria]

I mean, the way. Yeah, it's.

[Jo Ellen]

Yeah, I. I just, like, say it's, like my word vomit, and I wish I could, like, put a filter, but

[Fran]

there's also so many people that can relate to that, you know, like, you're talking about it and narcissistic, and it could. A lot of people listening can relate to something like that, so. And you still have a relationship, but I do.

[Jo Ellen]

It's. You know, I try to make it as normal as I can, but, you know, I don't back down to her anymore. Like, I think I did that when I was a kid, and now I'm like, fuck you.

[Fran]

Right. Cause you have your own life. You're your own person.

[Jo Ellen]

Yeah.

[Fran]

You mentioned, you know, Andy Cohen and watch what happened happens live. Were you a big Bravo fan before this?

[Jo Ellen]

I watched Below Deck.

[Ria]

Okay.

[Jo Ellen]

I didn't watch the Housewives. I was not. I have, like, three kids. They're running around. I was watching, like, Tell Me Lies. Like, that's, like, my kind of thing. I didn't watch as much reality tv, but now, obviously, I'm watching a lot of the shows and. And, like, Salt Lake Atlanta. I'm watching these shows.

[Amanda]

They're.

[Jo Ellen]

They're awesome.

[Fran]

Beverly Hills, I saw stat the other day that was about the Real Housewives of Atlanta. That was just, like, unbelievable. Like, their viewing.

[Ria]

Oh, yeah.

[Fran]

Their viewers and view and viewing time is just like early days of Atlanta. So good and so insane and funny.

[Jo Ellen]

Like, they actually just, like, know it. Right? Like, you know, so good with it.

[Fran]

Right now. There's a lot of Bravo drama happening. How does it feel to kind of be in the, like, cinematic universe of Bravo while there's so much happening?

[Jo Ellen]

I cannot believe, like, there's a reason they have BravoCon, like, Comic Con. It's because there's millions and millions of fans of Bravo and all the shows, whether it be, like, Summer House, the Valley, the Housewives, Blowjo, you know, there's so many different things, and the fans are so loyal, so it's wild.

[Ria]

Have you gotten to talk to any other housewives? Has anybody Reached out to you from other franchises.

[Jo Ellen]

Yeah, I've met a bunch of them. I've probably met, like, we did Ultimate Girls Trip, so I met a bunch of them. Heather Gay was really sweet. Heather Rowe was awesome. Teresa I've talked to a few times FaceTiming with her because we're twins. Yeah.

[Fran]

As you were talking just right now, I was like, oh, I see Theresa a little bit.

[Jo Ellen]

I'm Teresa and Topanga having a baby.

[Fran]

You know what that is? Wow. That's a really good call. Holy shit.

[Ria]

I know.

[Fran]

I love that. Oh, my God.

[Ria]

It's so good, too, because it's like. And Teresa was kind of the same way, where it was certain moments, like, the accent comes out, you know, And I feel like that happens with you. Cause sometimes when you're first speaking, it's not overly, but when you. At the picnic, when you're like, what the hell? You can't even do. It's like. I was like, oh, there's the accent.

[Jo Ellen]

You know what? It comes out. It definitely comes out when I'm mad or when I'm, like, drinking more. Yeah, definitely. When I'm mad, it comes out.

[Fran]

The Rhode island accent has been cracking me up because I feel like it is a mix between, like, New York and Boston.

[Amanda]

It is.

[Jo Ellen]

And it's like, go pack your cat.

[Fran]

Yeah. Like there. It's just a wild.

[Jo Ellen]

Not as much as Boston.

[Fran]

Especially Alicia's. Yes, it is.

[Jo Ellen]

I love her voice.

[Fran]

It is so good. She's old. The first episode, I just couldn't. She's a Britney Spears. I was like, what?

[Jo Ellen]

I love a Britney Spears.

[Amanda]

I love that channel.

[Fran]

Yes. What am I watching?

[Ria]

I'm like, I love it. I'm watching all of you guys have

[Fran]

lunch with her dolls.

[Ria]

I'm like, she's got all these dolls. She's reading her. She's reading the cards. She. Facade is not a word in her vocabulary.

[Jo Ellen]

What is she.

[Fran]

She said, like, fa.

[Ria]

Kade.

[Fran]

Oh.

[Jo Ellen]

When facades happen, I. Everyone. Every time that she has, like, a flub, I, like, rewind it. Cause it's so fucking. She makes me laugh. I've known Alicia probably, like, the longest out of anyone in the whole cast, and that is genuinely who she has been since, like, eighth grade. Like, that is who she is.

[Fran]

I love it. It's so entertaining. On top of that, Dolores, who we love. We just adore Dolores so much.

[Jo Ellen]

I just talked to her a little while ago.

[Fran]

Oh, really? How was it like having somebody who has had so much experience in the franchise coming to film with you guys?

[Jo Ellen]

That was so helpful. I have to be honest. Like, she would put us at ease. We didn't know what we were doing going into this. So, like, any question, like, outfits, this. How do I handle this person? What do I do to, like, conflict resolution? You know, she was just so helpful and she was, you know, I would love to film with her all the time. And she's funny. She's funny as shit. She has a very good sense of humor.

[Fran]

She really does love her so much.

[Ria]

She does. You said you really were so close with so many of the girls so early. But I do love that casting did put Ashley eye into the mix of it all. Because it's like, oh, here's the one person who has married into the Rhode island life and now kind of has to fit in, sort of. Which seems very hard because like you said, everybody knows everybody. So how do you think she did Trying to get in or get to know the group?

[Jo Ellen]

You know, Ashley to me is awesome. Like, and the fact that she has the Bachelorette and Bachelor in paradise, all of that, like, you would never know. She's the most humble, cool, chill person. She definitely was more quiet, and that's okay. She doesn't like that confrontation and that conflict. And that's lucky for her. Like, I want to be like, you know, she did very, very well. You know, she had Rosie's back a lot. But I had really good moments with Ashley, like, where we cried and, you know, our kids. She was a doll. But I do think that it was hard for her to kind of infiltrate into the group. Cause she's such a nice person.

[Fran]

Right.

[Jo Ellen]

And some of us are not. So, like, you know, like, it's intimidating to, like, kind of. She said it about me. Like, you're. I'm scared of you. I'm like, why? I'm like, the nicest one.

[Fran]

What do you mean?

[Ria]

Yeah, and that's why. But it's like, that's how you cast a good dynamic on a show is like, you can't have people all with that hard, intense personality. You need some softer people in the. In the mix. I saw Kelsey just do an interview, and she was like, you know, Ashley, she really was with us filming. And then other than that, we, you know, we don't really talk.

[Jo Ellen]

And, like, I envy that because I actually, I still. I hang out with Alicia. I hang out with Kelsey. I hang out with Liz.

[Amanda]

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[Jo Ellen]

And Ashley, like, has her other life. Like, this is, like, a job almost. And. And, like, do you think that comes

[Ria]

from maybe doing reality TV already?

[Jo Ellen]

Yeah. She understands. Like, this is. Is, you know, this is my job, too, but where I take it a little bit more personal and, like, you know, my feelings are hurt. She's. She's really good at what she does in that.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Jo Ellen]

Yeah. And she has so many fans.

[Ria]

Yeah. We love her. I think she's been great on the show. I.

[Jo Ellen]

She cries a bit.

[Ria]

She cried. But the. But here's the thing.

[Fran]

That's what she's known for.

[Ria]

So it cries is, like, a comfort, like, seeing her, like, I know probably there's some Bravo fans that watched her crying over, like, not having anything bad happen to her yet.

[Jo Ellen]

I get that.

[Ria]

Exactly.

[Jo Ellen]

I understand what that is.

[Ria]

And. And I. In my manner, I'm like, I'm sure this is rubbing some people the wrong way, but for me, I'm like, this is. This is. This is the Ashley we know and love.

[Jo Ellen]

Yeah.

[Ria]

That she's like, can't. She's. She's got that blubbered problem, you know? Like, worst problem is that I, you know, one day I will have to be sad. Right now. I'm not.

[Fran]

One day I will have a problem.

[Ria]

One day I will have a problem, and I'm gonna cry that. That one day is going to come. And. And that's also real, though, because she could make something up.

[Jo Ellen]

Nope. Exactly. I. I even texted her after I saw the episode, and I was like, I wasn't making fun of you. You were just crying because you had. And she's like, I know. Like, she's just so chill.

[Amanda]

And.

[Jo Ellen]

Yeah, I love her. I have a really great time with her.

[Ria]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Jo Ellen]

I feel like she's a fun one to me.

[Ria]

What was the. What was the process for you getting on this show? Like, what was the first words said to you? Like, how Was it? How was it?

[Fran]

Oh my God.

[Ria]

She's like, they're casting.

[Jo Ellen]

I was naked. She's like, hey, they're doing some show. I heard it's like Italian women. I'm like, well, I'm half Italian. I'm like, but I don't like cook or clean.

[Ria]

I don't know if I'll cook Italian women.

[Jo Ellen]

I'm like, that's. I'm like, my mother in law is like that Sunday dinner she cooks and cleans everything. You know, I'm not. I get doordash and I have a cleaning person. So it was, that was what it was initially pitched to us as like this Italian show. And then over the summer, like a couple summers ago, they were like, this potentially could be housewives. And we're like, are you joking? Like this? Are you serious?

[Fran]

No.

[Jo Ellen]

So that's how it got started.

[Ria]

So not initially pitched as like, hey, we're thinking of maybe a new housewives, for instance.

[Jo Ellen]

Yeah. It wasn't.

[Fran]

How did you go into the casting? Were you like, I'm just gonna totally be myself or did you ham it out?

[Jo Ellen]

I'm 755 pounds pregnant. I gain like 100 pounds every time I get pregnant. I was morbidly obese with a child in me. And in my casting tape I'm like, Kelsey was like, oh my God, your face. I'm like, I know.

[Ria]

It was so big.

[Jo Ellen]

So I went into it just like being me. I'm like, I'm somebody that, you know, I say it like it is. I'm very unfiltered and I'm unapologetically me. Like, if you don't like it, like you're either gonna really love me or you're not. And I would say it's probably like 90 so far. Like, you know, I'm reading the reviews and stuff. Like 95, 90% of people really like me. And then there's that 10 that are just like, she's a horrible human being.

[Ria]

Performance reviews. I'm reading my performance reviews.

[Fran]

You seem like somebody who is comfortable with that. In between of like, you'll love me or you'll hate me, but you're aware of that and that's a great place to be, especially on reality tv. Like you want to be polarizing like that.

[Jo Ellen]

I'll get em.

[Fran]

But do you think you're reading like a lot of comments and all of those things, like who do you think is doing the most of that right now?

[Jo Ellen]

I would say it's probably Liz and me. Me for sure. That's me. I'm like, oh, it's four in the morning. Why don't I ask ChatGPT what the Internet thinks of me? That's a good idea.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Jo Ellen]

So I've definitely been reading. But you know what? I'm also interacting with the fans that are writing me these really thoughtful, kind messages. And I'm doing, like, all these camp, like, I can't believe, like, these people, like, they're like, say hi to me. I'm like, okay.

[Ria]

Hi. There's always gonna be both because you,

[Fran]

like you said, you do have the people that are reaching out and talking about earlier, talking about your relationship with your mom, and everything is so relatable.

[Jo Ellen]

Gary's been getting hate mail a little bit. Well, he's also been getting love mail. He's been getting a lot of guys in his DMs, but people like, your wife's a bitch. And he, like. Like, he'll show me or I'll see it on, like, his account. I'm like, oh, thank you. Oh, my God.

[Ria]

That's the Italian aspect of this show, too, though, like, with New Jersey, more so than, I think, a lot of the other franchises. The husbands are involved.

[Fran]

They're.

[Ria]

They're characters on their own. And I feel like we're kind of getting that feeling.

[Jo Ellen]

Yeah.

[Ria]

From the husbands of this group where, like, they. They all got a lot going on, you know?

[Jo Ellen]

Like, I like. I love Rich. I love Jerry. They're awesome. Bill, Billy, like, they're. They're all really, really great. Who did I miss? Definitely not Rula's husband. He's not great. There's somebody else. Jared's awesome. He's awesome. I love him. So when we do group scenes with the husbands, the guys all really get along very well, which is.

[Ria]

Is Alicia gonna get married?

[Jo Ellen]

I hope so. I do. He loves her. He adores her, and she loves him. They'll get married.

[Fran]

The conversation with Liz and her husband and Dino, and that was making me laugh so much. Like, I know it was a serious thing, and. And it caused drama. But when she was like, listen, like, we got a lot to celebrate. Studio 54 parties coming up. Like, let's not let this little rumor get in between us. I was just like, what a way to brush that off. Like, you know, because an affair rumor, like, that is a lot. But she was just like, no, no, we have this party. Like, we're just gonna deal with that later.

[Jo Ellen]

There's no. There's no affair there. There's so many, like, rumors on the show, but there's There's.

[Ria]

You guys started off, like, very strong.

[Fran]

I gotta.

[Ria]

You know, like, you almost. You almost hope that. What else. Where's to go from here? Because it's like, it was a fair rumor.

[Fran]

Someone's got to get arrested.

[Ria]

Someone. Yeah, right. Unfortunately. On camera.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Ria]

That's really the only.

[Jo Ellen]

It wasn't on camera, but they. They cover it. Somebody does. Yeah.

[Ria]

Yeah. Yes.

[Jo Ellen]

See, that's T.K.

[Ria]

kelsey's got multiple boyfriends. I mean, there's all. It's everything. Everything in that.

[Jo Ellen]

Like, I feel like, you know, there's been, you know, cheating scandals and things like that on Bravo before. Yes. Has there ever been, like, this one's swinging. This one's, you know, has two. Like, there's. It's very interesting.

[Fran]

All of them combined in one and,

[Ria]

like, open about it. It's not like it's all hidden behind the secrets.

[Jo Ellen]

Rosie's talking about small wieners in her butt.

[Ria]

Yes. I'm just, like.

[Jo Ellen]

I'm saying I had a three, you know, so everyone's very sexually fluid. We're very open. It's a whole new world to, like, Bravo.

[Ria]

And Kelsey and that boyfriend, like, we watched them break up and they've stayed separated. And is she surviving her life now?

[Jo Ellen]

She has the other one.

[Fran]

Right. This one.

[Ria]

Right. From that one to the other one. She was. She had. That's why you have two, I guess.

[Jo Ellen]

She's doing awesome. She's thriving. I knew the ex boyfriend, too.

[Amanda]

Yeah.

[Jo Ellen]

Kelsey mentions how I know him, but. No, he. The family. They're a very good family. But I love Billy, her new boyfriend, so he's awesome. And Gary's been friends with him for ages because that's, again, very Rhode Island.

[Fran]

Are you itching to get back to filming?

[Jo Ellen]

No.

[Amanda]

Yeah.

[Jo Ellen]

I'm like, enjoy my summer, my life. I am. I mean, it was fun. It was definitely fun filming. I'm excited if there's a season two.

[Amanda]

Yes.

[Fran]

There has to be. I mean,

[Jo Ellen]

I hope there is.

[Amanda]

Yeah.

[Jo Ellen]

But, you know, if there is, I would. I'm definitely, you know, excited and eager to be a part of it.

[Ria]

Yeah. Because it feels like you guys filmed this last summer. Right. So if it does. And Rhode island looks the best in the summer, you know, fall is gorgeous. Fall is gorgeous.

[Jo Ellen]

So I wouldn't be sad if we got some fall.

[Ria]

Right, right. Right. Maybe it's like a late summer, early fall situation for. For you guys. Because even this was, like, 4th of July and the Newport trips and everything is very beach.

[Jo Ellen]

Fourth of July because I said the word I was like, oh, in 1492. Columbus. I know, it's 1776. I know what the Fourth of July is. Our independence. I did say I was like, from England. And they're like, no, I'm like, from who? And they're like, great Britain. I'm like, all right. I was really close.

[Ria]

It's the same thing.

[Jo Ellen]

I mean, listen, I get it. Yeah. I'm not, you know what? Now I'm not hosting the 4th of July next year.

[Ria]

And I do, I did see, like, the process of, I guess, renting a house for the party and all that stuff. Is that, like, is, is that common in Rhyland?

[Jo Ellen]

It's honestly, people will rent a house down in, like, Narragansett, Newport, like, 20 minutes away from their actual home and just go for like a week at the beach. Like, it's almost like Jersey Shore. Like, people would rent. So, yeah, I rented that house because I don't live on the ocean like that. We could have done a pool 4th of July party, but we didn't. Yeah. So that's very, very common, getting a house in Block island. And it's almost like going like, Nantucket or like, Martha's.

[Fran]

Yeah. The lore of Rhode island is really, you know, just a whole new world to me. Like, I, I, it's just blowing my mind that it's just like everything's so far and, but it's really so close, you know, Like, I can't.

[Ria]

I'm sure their drive from the, like, Providence to I got married at Martha's Vineyards. Like, the, the drive from Providence to Woods Hole to the ferry is probably so far in their mind.

[Fran]

Right.

[Jo Ellen]

Like, that's like my territory for work. And that's the longest trip ever.

[Ria]

Exactly.

[Jo Ellen]

Having to go to the ferry when we.

[Fran]

45 minutes have to drive, I'd be

[Ria]

like, oh, my God, I'm so close. Like, I'm almost there, you know, like,

[Fran]

if I told you about my day to day or my weekends would blow your mind of how far we're driving.

[Ria]

Right. You gotta drive 30 minutes just to get from Jersey City. Yeah.

[Fran]

Like, I come into work, it's gotta be 30 minutes.

[Jo Ellen]

I would die. No, but you know, for, for my job, I travel, so I'm, I am used to driving, but I hate it. Like, there's nothing I hate more. Like, I'll just sit in the car, I will go through my phone book, and I will talk to somebody for the entire 2, 3 hour ride. I can't sit there and do nothing.

[Ria]

The Brian and Rula kind of Fall out with contacting your work. Was that all resolved? Like, you have no issues?

[Jo Ellen]

Oh, no, I have an issue at all at work.

[Ria]

Not with them. You have an issue, but I'm saying your job has.

[Jo Ellen]

Yeah, my job, actually. They laid me off.

[Fran]

Oh.

[Jo Ellen]

I don't know if it's because of that.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Jo Ellen]

I don't know. They just had to change. I don't know. I don't think it helped, I'll tell you that.

[Ria]

Okay. Yeah.

[Jo Ellen]

Right. So I have a new job. That's shitty. I just think that's shitty. And he didn't just call one job. He called more than one. So.

[Ria]

Okay. So I would be.

[Jo Ellen]

So wasn't it down with him multiple times?

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Jo Ellen]

No. So, like, when I said, I'm coming

[Fran]

for you for something, I'm coming for something. I'm not gonna stop.

[Ria]

Was true.

[Jo Ellen]

For something that was true, that your mistress posted online. That was the truth. And you told her it was okay to do. You're gonna call. First of all, I wasn't doing it during business hours, and I wasn't telling anybody. Like, in the. In the. He's not even one of my doctors. He's not one of my offices. So you cannot complain about my work ethic when you're not my office. No one gives a shit what you have to say. He's just like, this little, like, hobbit.

[Amanda]

I don't know.

[Jo Ellen]

He needs just go back under a hole.

[Ria]

Well, we got quite the tease for the second half of the season. Everybody's dying to see. You know, we're hearing about the video that we're. That there's a. That there's a video. So I'm sure we'll get more details about that. And. And an arrest. So it. Which is crazy because it's like, a lot goes on with Rula, but we don't see Rula that much.

[Jo Ellen]

Rule wasn't around too much. Yeah, I mean, I feel like she wasn't around. She was having a lot of health things. She pretended.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Jo Ellen]

I don't know.

[Ria]

Right. It's like. Like she would. Yeah. I don't care. She's supposed to be in the group trips and stuff. Then she'd be like, I'm not coming. You know, what?

[Jo Ellen]

If I had a cold, I would still be on the group trip. You can't just, like, get out of it. Like, this is your job. You decided to go on a reality TV show. And, like, this is so much fun. Like. But you knew what was happening because I told you six months before. So you should have maybe said, I'm going to opt out of this season. Or the easiest thing that she could have done to, like, kind of play her cards better. It would be like, hey, Joellen, thank you for telling me. Now I know I got it from here, and I would have shut the fuck up, but she just kept on calling me a liar. And then you called my job. So now I'm coming. Now I'm not backing down. Now I'm gonna stand ten toes down.

[Ria]

Absolutely. We're gonna wrap up shortly, but I do want to ask you. What? If there's anything that you've seen online or any rumor about you that. That you're like, oh, man, they got this so wrong.

[Jo Ellen]

I mean, other than, like, my sister and husband. Yeah, yeah, that one's just not true. Yeah, no, Most of the rumors are right.

[Fran]

They're actually way juicier.

[Jo Ellen]

They're only getting 10%. Right. No, I don't really see too. Too much about that many rumors about me. It's mostly about my sister.

[Ria]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, it's not even about me.

[Jo Ellen]

My poor sister thought, like, the world was gonna love her. She's like, oh, this is my scene. I'm gonna have, like, a watch party. And then she started reading the Internet, and they're like, like, I hate her, hussy. And I'm like, no, she's the best person ever.

[Fran]

That sucks, because it's like, if you're not mad at your sister, no one else should be mad.

[Ria]

Sometimes it's like a family joke may not translate.

[Fran]

You know, it just.

[Ria]

You're like, this is really funny to us, but the public does not think it's funny.

[Jo Ellen]

Right? Right. I guess they don't think it's funny, but it is to me, so I'm okay. I know they're not hooking up. I appreciate the fans caring that much, but I promise I'm good. They're good.

[Ria]

Well, Joel, and we're so happy you came in to talk to us.

[Fran]

So happy. Thank you so much.

[Ria]

Dying over the season. We can't wait to watch the rest. And we, you know, not to jinx it, but we can't wait for season two. I could feel it. I have a good feeling about.

[Jo Ellen]

Fingers crossed.

[Ria]

Good feeling about this franchise, but Sundays at 9 o' clock on Bravo, and you can stream the next day on Peacock as well.

[Fran]

Thanks so much.

[Jo Ellen]

Thank you so much.

[Ria]

Much.

[Fran]

We're about to get into a great game of trivia, but first we got to talk about insurance. It's great to have friends who support whatever you're into, Whether it's hip hop or all these different kind of music mashups, country or the latest indie comedy movie that no one's ever heard of. And like those friends, State form is State Farm is there to help you feel supported by helping you choose coverage you need. With so many coverage options, it's nice knowing you have help finding what is fit for you. So you could check coverage of the off the list and spend more time laughing with friends at the movie theater. We love that. Go [e-mail] or use the award winning app to get help from one of their local agents. Like a good neighbor, State Farm is there. All right, ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to another game of Beatrie and Fran. This is game number 217. We are joined by sisters Ashley and Amanda. It's been a couple weeks since we've played, so I hope that we got a good rhythm going.

[Ria]

Jump back into it.

[Fran]

We're feeling good and I hope you ladies are feeling good as well.

[Amanda]

We're ready. Excited?

[Ria]

Yep.

[Fran]

All right, let's do it.

[Ria]

We're locking in. It's 15 questions. You get the question right, you get the point. If you get it wrong, the other team can steal the point. Whoever has the most points at the end wins. To determine who goes first, Noah's going to give us a movie. We're going to guess the Rotten Tomatoes critic score of that movie. Whoever is closest will get to go first. We each get our own individual guest. We'll alternate between teams for guesses. So, Noah, what is today's movie?

[Noah]

The Internship.

[Fran]

All right, so one of you will go first and then we'll go back and forth.

[Amanda]

Okay, I'm gonna say 52.

[Fran]

That's a solid guess. I'm gonna say 74.

[Ria]

Okay.

[Amanda]

I'm gonna go 63.

[Ria]

Is this the one with Anne Hathaway and Robert De Niro?

[Fran]

I gotta be honest, in my head, it was either that or it was.

[Ria]

Because it was the intro.

[Fran]

It was. Or it was Anna Kendrick and George Clooney or Owen Wilson and then Vince.

[Jo Ellen]

Oh, right, right.

[Ria]

Okay. The one that Donna Bryan's in.

[Fran]

Yes.

[Ria]

Okay.

[Fran]

I had three different movies in my head.

[Ria]

So what's the one with De Niro

[Fran]

where he's the intern?

[Ria]

That's the intern.

[Amanda]

Yeah.

[Ria]

Okay, I'm gonna say 39.

[Noah]

That's the closest. 34.

[Fran]

Nice.

[Amanda]

I knew it was low. Dang.

[Fran]

It was really depending on the movie in my.

[Ria]

Yeah, yeah. That's why I was like.

[Amanda]

I was thinking Anne Hathaway Yeah.

[Ria]

So I gave her high.

[Jo Ellen]

Yeah.

[Ria]

I wonder what the intern score is. Can you look it up?

[Noah]

Any guesses so we know?

[Ria]

No, we don't need to guess again.

[Amanda]

I think that one's higher in the 60s.

[Ria]

Yeah, 59. Wow. Okay, so that one was higher. Yep.

[Noah]

I think I enjoy the internship more, though.

[Ria]

I haven't seen the internship in a really long time.

[Noah]

Okay.

[Ria]

I don't think I ever saw the intern.

[Amanda]

So.

[Noah]

Question number one, to rean Fran, shout out Michaela from Newton, Massachusetts.

[Ria]

It.

[Noah]

What song did Justin Bieber release as a single in January 2020 after a three year music hiatus?

[Fran]

Ghost. I don't know. Final answer. Ghost.

[Noah]

Incorrect.

[Fran]

Oh,

[Amanda]

Amanda, do you know I actually thought it was Ghost. I went to the one with him and Ariana, but I know it's not that. Yeah, that's that. Stuck with you. But I cannot. I wouldn't say that was like a single for him.

[Fran]

If you got nothing.

[Noah]

10 seconds.

[Amanda]

I could be stuck with you. I mean, that's the only one I could think of other than Ghost. Let's just do it then. Stuck with you. Final answer.

[Noah]

Incorrect. Yummy.

[Ria]

Oh,

[Fran]

Damn.

[Noah]

Ghost was 2021.

[Ria]

I thought of stuck with you also, but I was like they were. We were fully in lockdown when that one came out. It was yummy.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Ria]

Yep.

[Jo Ellen]

Yeah.

[Noah]

All right, question number two to Ashley and Amanda, shout out Elaine from Cincinnati. What is the commercial slogan that Carter says in a Cinderella story at the end of the movie?

[Amanda]

I love this movie too. You do? I have zero thoughts. I haven't seen this movie in a really long time. Commercial slogan at the end of the movie.

[Noah]

15 seconds.

[Amanda]

I got nothing. Yeah, I literally don't even have a guess.

[Ria]

What is this? Is it. It's toothpaste, right? He's doing an ad for toothpaste.

[Fran]

Yes. Yes.

[Ria]

And he loves it. He smiles. I don't remember what he says. Yeah, I don't even have. I don't have a guess. I. I can picture him doing the thing, but I have no idea what he says.

[Fran]

Oh, what's like a toothpaste slogan?

[Ria]

Pearly white, three seconds. I can't even think of a toothpaste slogan.

[Noah]

Anything is possible if you just believe.

[Ria]

Yeah, anything is possible if you just believe. It was toothpaste though, right?

[Fran]

I do believe. Believe.

[Amanda]

So.

[Fran]

Yes.

[Noah]

I could look that up.

[Ria]

I would love to know.

[Noah]

It feels right for a skin acne product.

[Fran]

Okay, close enough. Close enough.

[Ria]

Skin. Skin.

[Amanda]

Yeah.

[Ria]

It was not toothpaste. Yeah.

[Noah]

Okay, still scoreless. Question number three to re And Fran, shout out to Sammy from Boston. In Toy Story 2, we are introduced to Jesse the Prospector and their horse. What is the horse's name?

[Ria]

I have no idea. Jesse's horse. As much as I enjoy all the toy stories, I think I don't have Toy Story trivia in me.

[Fran]

Jesse's horse.

[Ria]

Jesse's horse. I'm picturing the horse.

[Fran]

We gotta throw a name out there, though, because we can't just do this the whole game today.

[Noah]

10 seconds.

[Fran]

Stan, Stan, Stan, Stan. Final answer. If only.

[Jo Ellen]

Amanda.

[Amanda]

Isn't it Bullseye? It is. That is exactly what I was thinking. Okay, Bullseye. Final answer.

[Fran]

I mean, that is just terrible of us to not know Bullseye.

[Ria]

No, I know that one. When they said Bullseye, I went, yeah,

[Fran]

that one is just really bad that we didn't know Bullseye.

[Ria]

I know.

[Fran]

I'm happy for you guys. I'm just disappointed. Yeah. No.

[Ria]

Yep.

[Noah]

Okay. One. Nothing. Ashley and Amanda, question number four.

[Ria]

Today could be a Stanley shout out

[Noah]

Michaela from Newton again. Which actor played the Oompa Loompa that was trapped in the jar in the 2023 movie? Wonka.

[Amanda]

Isn't it the same guy that plays all of them?

[Jo Ellen]

I don't know his name.

[Amanda]

No, no, no, no, no. You're thinking of the guy from, like, the one with Johnny Depp. Oh, this is Wonka with Timothy.

[Noah]

Oh, 15 seconds.

[Amanda]

Don't know who it is, but I know what you're talking about. Is it the guy that's from the Office who also is in the Proposal?

[Noah]

Five seconds.

[Amanda]

I'm just, like, listing places, but I'm not too sure. Okay, well, don't give him too much.

[Noah]

Empty.

[Ria]

I'm done.

[Amanda]

I'm done. Sorry.

[Ria]

My only guess is Hugh Grant, because isn't he an Oompa Loompa in that movie? But I don't. I never saw it.

[Fran]

Go with Hugh Grant. You know, go with Hugh Grant. Yeah, do it.

[Ria]

Final answer, correct. Yes. I'm envisioning that now.

[Amanda]

And I remember being like, that is.

[Ria]

Yeah. It was only like when everybody watched the previous year. Like, I'm sorry, is that Hugh Grant as an Oompa Loompa?

[Amanda]

Weird.

[Noah]

Weird. Okay, title one, question number five to Re and Fran. Shout out Tate from North Dakota. Name the actor or actress based on these three movies. Anchorman, the Holiday where the Millers.

[Fran]

Christina Ashley Applegate. She's not in the holiday.

[Ria]

Holiday.

[Noah]

15 seconds.

[Ria]

I can't think of.

[Noah]

Five seconds.

[Ria]

Ed Burns. Final answer, incorrect.

[Noah]

Cash in. Amanda.

[Amanda]

I only know people from the holiday. Is it Juvenile I know. I'm thinking Acorn Man, Holiday. And what's the third movie where the Millers. Oh, we're the Millers. Yeah. None of those people are ringing a bell. But I am going to say they're like Jack Black or Jude Law or something. Yeah, the two. I was going to say not Jack Black.

[Noah]

Ten seconds.

[Amanda]

Should we just go with it? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. Jude Law.

[Noah]

Final answer incorrect. Katherine Hahn.

[Ria]

She's in everything. After I said at Burns, I was like, who are the other possible. And I was like, is it either John Krasinski or Katherine Hahn? Because they're the only other like side. They had like two seconds in the holiday.

[Noah]

All right, still tied up at 1.

[Ria]

She's in Werther Miller's.

[Noah]

Yeah.

[Fran]

Haven't seen that movie in a long time. She's like on an a bus that

[Amanda]

they meet the family.

[Fran]

Oh, yes.

[Ria]

The other fan when Nick Offerman.

[Fran]

Good call.

[Noah]

Okay.

[Ria]

That would be so fucking funny.

[Fran]

It is.

[Ria]

I watched it a lot when I went through a phase where I watched it a lot.

[Fran]

I gotta run that back.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Noah]

You guys ever watch rv? Yes, I watched that a million times.

[Fran]

RV was a good one for me. If we're going road trip ones. Johnson's Family Vacation was legitimately my favorite movie. I watched that movie on replay. Johnson's Family Vacation. I loved that movie.

[Noah]

All right, tied to one. Question number six. Shout out Aaron and Carly from Port Townsend. And this is to Ashley and Amanda name. This year, Along Came Polly is in theaters. The Livestrong bracelets come out. Ashlee Simpson gets caught lip syncing on SNL.

[Amanda]

Gosh, this is early. This is like late 90s. I was just a child. Maybe not even alive.

[Ria]

Just a babe.

[Amanda]

For some reason, O1 is in my head, but I could be wrong. But if you don't have a guess, I. I don't even know what that movie is or anything. All I know, Ashley Simpson. That's about it. I'm gonna say 2001.

[Noah]

Final answer incorrect.

[Ria]

I'm between 2 and 3. Oh, you think earlier.

[Fran]

No, I was gonna go later, but I like. I like 2000. The Livestrong bracelets were a little bit later, I think that's why.

[Noah]

But I mean, 15 seconds.

[Ria]

It was the first one. Again, sorry. Along Came Polly.

[Fran]

Along Came Polly.

[Ria]

And Ashley Simpson was

[Noah]

five seconds.

[Ria]

Four. Maybe three or four. 2004. Final answer correct.

[Fran]

Nice. Nice.

[Amanda]

Oh, my gosh.

[Fran]

All right, that was a good.

[Ria]

A little bit later, but not too. Yeah, I just added one.

[Fran]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Noah]

Not too much that there was a period in time where my only goal in life was to get a Livestrong bracelet.

[Ria]

Oh, and I you. That was everything that point did make me think. Like I was thinking my. That era for me, I would have been around 10. And that, that seems right.

[Fran]

And by the way, I remember my parents got me a fake one and I was.

[Ria]

Oh, that was the worst.

[Fran]

I was like.

[Ria]

Or like, I. I actually would get mad walking into stores and seeing fake ones and being like, those are fake.

[Fran]

No, I. Well, it's like my mom, she won't buy like Advil, she'll buy like the store. Right, right, right. You know, I feel that.

[Noah]

All right, two, one. Ria and Fran. So question number seven to them, shout out Paige and Dylan from Austin in Entourage. What is the full name of the porn star Vinny Chase dates Sasha Grey?

[Fran]

Final answer correct. You ain't gonna get me.

[Ria]

Even I knew that one.

[Fran]

You ain't gonna get me. I have watched that show more than any other thing I've ever watched besides Full House and Friends. But Friends, that is probably the most

[Noah]

rewatched show I've ever watched.

[Fran]

Entourage.

[Ria]

Yeah, I think I've rewatched it a shit ton too. And like, not on purpose. Cause Joe's always rewatching it. So then I'm.

[Fran]

It's locked in for me. Why do you guys have that question?

[Jo Ellen]

Because I've never seen it.

[Ria]

There you go.

[Noah]

Okay, three, one. Re and friends. Question number eight to Ashley and Amanda. Shout out Marissa from Newton, Massachusetts. Newton's a big trivia town apparently.

[Ria]

Nice.

[Noah]

Name this movie based on its IMDb description. 14 year old Jason has a reputation for stretching the truth. So when a big time Hollywood producer steals his class paper and turns it into a smash hit movie, no one believes Jason's tale.

[Amanda]

We love this movie. Yeah, we love this movie. Final answer correct.

[Ria]

That's a classic. Solid, great, solid, great flick.

[Noah]

I've probably seen that.

[Ria]

A good program, great flick, as my dad was saying.

[Noah]

Okay, three, two, Rhian. Fran. Question number nine to Re and Fran. Shout out Mikayla from Newton, Massachusetts.

[Ria]

Wonder if she knows Marissa.

[Noah]

Okay. One of Drake's official music videos are clips of him distributing the $1 million music video budget to families, organizations and grocery stores in Miami. What song was the music video for God's Plan.

[Fran]

Final answer correct.

[Ria]

My girl knows Drake.

[Fran]

It's like embarrassing, you know, it's like I'm not like bragging about it.

[Noah]

The music video, so long ago though, like, I mean, I guess it kind of is. Yeah, it was like 2019 or 2018.

[Ria]

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[Noah]

Okay, four, two, ran, fran. And this question is to Ashley and Amanda. I'm gonna play clip and you tell me what movie it's from.

[Unknown Rapper]

I mean.

[Fran]

I mean, he murdered somebody, right?

[Unknown Rapper]

The guy fucking murders somebody and you

[Ria]

don't fucking take him.

[Fran]

What are you waiting for?

[Unknown Rapper]

Honestly?

[Fran]

I mean, do you want him to

[Unknown Rapper]

chop me up and feed me to the poor? Is that what you guys want?

[Fran]

Yeah, well, that might stick.

[Ria]

Will you shut up? We are building a case and it takes time. You know that.

[Amanda]

I don't even recognize the voice. I'm like, who is this?

[Ria]

Who gets murdered?

[Amanda]

We gotta think of a movie. Yeah, sounds like a mob movie of some sort. Do you have a guess? I. No. I'm trying to think of anyone that is, like, giving mobster esque vibes in a movie other than the Godfather. Yeah, I'm getting that.

[Noah]

Five seconds.

[Amanda]

No, that's not it. I got nothing. Sorry. That's fine.

[Fran]

Is this the town?

[Ria]

Your guess is as good as mine. All I know is that that, like, jingly music in the background was throwing me off.

[Fran]

I'm torn between the Town and the Departure, but it could be neither.

[Ria]

My initial thought was the Departed, but. But I have nothing to back that up.

[Fran]

Fifteen seconds, let's go. The Departed.

[Amanda]

Good.

[Jo Ellen]

Sure.

[Fran]

All right. Just parted. Final answer correct.

[Ria]

Oh, okay, good.

[Noah]

That was Leo, then Mark Wahlberg, and then Martin Sheen. All right, five.

[Fran]

I knew it was one of those. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Noah]

Five, two R and Fran. Question number 11 to you guys. Name four roasters from Justin Bieber's Comedy Central roast.

[Fran]

Sarah silverman.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Fran]

Natasha legaro.

[Ria]

I can't remember. Kevin Hart. No, he wasn't around that time.

[Noah]

10 seconds.

[Ria]

Who was there?

[Fran]

Oh, the roast master. Roastmaster. Why am I blanking on his name?

[Noah]

Jeff.

[Fran]

Jeff Ross. Oh, God. I got three. That's it.

[Noah]

Sorry, Amanda and Ashley.

[Ria]

I just said Jeff.

[Jo Ellen]

Did you wish this?

[Amanda]

No. Okay. I was thinking Kevin Hart also. So let's go with Kevin Hart. Yeah. Sarah Silverman. Who else you think? Well, I feel like they were on the right track, so we're gonna have to steal from the names. Sorry, guys. Okay, so Sarah Silverman, Kevin Hart, Jeff Ross, and Shane Gillis, maybe? Could be. All right, I'm gonna go with that. Final answer incorrect.

[Noah]

That was way before Shane's time.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Noah]

Although Sarah Silverman was not.

[Ria]

Oh, really?

[Fran]

Was Natasha Leguero in it?

[Noah]

Yes, it was Kevin Hart, roastmaster. Jeff Ross, Roastmaster General. Martha Stewart. Snoop Dogg, Ludacris, Shaq. Pete Davidson.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Noah]

Natasha, Chris.

[Ria]

I couldn't remember what Fleet was involved in it at the same time they. There was the whole. That brought Martha Stewart back.

[Fran]

When was that?

[Noah]

That was 20 while ago.

[Fran]

Yeah, it was a long time ago. Yeah.

[Noah]

2015. It is still five two ran Fran. So Ashley and Amanda have to get the final three questions right. Sent it overtime. And this question is to them shout out Megan from New York City.

[Amanda]

Four questions.

[Noah]

Four questions left. Yeah. What band is Joseph Gordon Levitt's character listening to in the elevator when he first meets meet summer in 500 days of summer?

[Amanda]

Never seen that movie. Me either. I know. I'm sorry.

[Ria]

What animated response

[Amanda]

is that?

[Jo Ellen]

The question?

[Amanda]

What band?

[Noah]

What band?

[Fran]

Okay.

[Amanda]

In an elevator in like a summer esque movie. Yeah. Singing something old. My brain goes to the Jared Leto band. But you know what time is. You can say that.

[Ria]

I don't know it.

[Fran]

Beatles.

[Amanda]

Beatles.

[Fran]

Beatles. Final answer incorrect.

[Noah]

I just thought that was so funny how confident you were when you said that. What is the Smiths? He's like. She's like, that's the Smith. She's like, I love this.

[Fran]

The Beatles have something to do with that movie though, don't they? No. Okay, moving on.

[Ria]

Not that I remember thinking of across the Universe.

[Noah]

All right, five, two. Question number 13 to Reinfrene. Shout out Aaron and Carly from Port Townsend again. What is the full name of the detective played by Daniel Craig in the Knives out franchise?

[Fran]

Oh, couldn't even give you a guess.

[Ria]

That real southern name, it's like, what is it? J like it? Or is it French?

[Fran]

Jacques.

[Ria]

Am I thinking of Pink Panther?

[Fran]

Jacques. I was just going to say Jacques Big Bear. Final answer. Jacques.

[Noah]

Incorrect. Ashley and Amanda.

[Amanda]

Amanda. You saw those? Most recent. I can hear his voice so vividly in my head. Yeah. God, what is his name? I'm like, how many times do they actually say his name in the movie? They're like, not that many. Full name, too, Because I thought just Jacques, but I don't know the full name.

[Noah]

15 seconds.

[Amanda]

I want to say, like, Colonel, but that's crazy.

[Ria]

Yeah, crazy wrong.

[Fran]

I don't know.

[Noah]

Three seconds.

[Jo Ellen]

We're not doing great.

[Amanda]

Do. Do.

[Ria]

Jacques.

[Fran]

Gusto. Finally. We just said that.

[Ria]

Gusto instead of Gusto.

[Noah]

Incorrect. Benoit Blank.

[Amanda]

Blanc.

[Fran]

Benoit Blanc. I'm seeing it now.

[Amanda]

I'm seeing it all now.

[Fran]

I mean, here's the thing. We repeated it back and then we both went Benoit.

[Ria]

No, but wait.

[Noah]

But isn't he Southern?

[Ria]

It took me a second.

[Fran]

Benoit Blank.

[Ria]

Benoit Blank does kind of have a southern X. It seemed like Louisiana.

[Noah]

So then why would it be like

[Fran]

some weird ass New Orleans? Yeah, New Orleans is all made from the French. French order. Benoit Blanc. Benoit Blank. Benoit Blank.

[Noah]

The best detective in the world.

[Fran]

Benoit Blank.

[Noah]

We need to get Benoit Blank on the case.

[Ria]

Oh, my God, that's funny.

[Fran]

I'm changing your contact name to Benoit Blank.

[Ria]

Benoit Blank.

[Noah]

Why do they make words that are hard to read?

[Fran]

Good question.

[Noah]

Okay, that's funny. All right, well, that Seals of victory. We have two left, though. So question number 14, and this is to Ashley and Amanda, shout out Abby from Northern Virginia in season three of Jersey Shore. When Sammy is yelling at Ron during the Are you friends with her? Let me know now scene. Vinnie interrupts by saying they're going to someone's birthday. Whose birthday is it?

[Fran]

Is this our question?

[Ria]

No.

[Noah]

No.

[Ria]

Is this our question?

[Amanda]

I know she knows it, but I do not. She definitely knows it. I'm trying to think of who else is, you know, on the show. I mean, it's like, they're probably going to win someone's birthdays. It's a famous person.

[Noah]

I feel like 15 seconds.

[Amanda]

Should we say Paris Hilton? Oh, yeah, that's fun. Do it. Okay. Paris Hilton. Final answer.

[Noah]

Incorrect.

[Fran]

We're going to Ryder's birthday. Ryder. Final answer.

[Ria]

Correct. Who's Ryder?

[Fran]

Snooki's best friend.

[Ria]

Oh, yeah, that's not a famous person. Yeah.

[Noah]

Okay. Six, two, Rhiann, Fran, final question to them. Shout out Megan from New York City again. In the TV show Fleabag, the main character has romantic interest, but their love is forbidden. Why is it forbidden?

[Ria]

He's a priest.

[Fran]

Final answer correct. Boom. We really came back. 72 started off slow, but wow. Yeah, that was a good game for us.

[Ria]

2004 upped it. Yeah, right?

[Fran]

That really upped the morale. Well, thank you guys so much for playing. That was a good game for us, us. But seriously, thank you guys. We appreciate you guys.

[Ria]

Thank you, girls.

[Fran]

And we'll send you guys some merch. So just send Noah your address and size and we'll get that sent to you. Great. Thank you.

[Ria]

And enjoy your trip.

[Fran]

Yeah, enjoy your trip this summer in Italy.

[Ria]

Gonna love it. Amanda's like, damn, you know about our trip. Yeah, enjoy the trip.

[Fran]

You'll have the best time. Thank you, guys.

[Noah]

Thanks.

[Fran]

Bye.

[Ria]

Thank you.

[Fran]

Bye. That wraps up today's episode of Chicks in the Office. Thank you so much for watching and listening. We hope you have a lovely, wonderful weekend. We love you so very much. Big hugs and smooches, and we'll talk to you on Monday.

[Unknown Rapper]

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[Noah]

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