Best & Worst Grammy Moments + Spencer Pratt Interview: The Hills Being Fake, Where the Reboot Went Wrong + More!

Summary

Chicks in the Office – February 2, 2026 Best & Worst Grammy Moments + Spencer Pratt Interview

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Episode Overview

Ria and Fran deliver their signature mix of pop culture breakdown, TV and film recaps, and high-profile guest interviews. In this episode, they dive into the 2026 Grammy Awards—the red carpet, standout (and lackluster) moments, performances, snubs, fashion critiques, and more. The show also features an exclusive interview with reality TV star Spencer Pratt, who discusses his memoir, the reality of reality TV, and why the Hills reboot flopped.

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Segment 1: Weekend Catch-Up & Personal Stories

(02:00 – 14:00)

Highlights:

• Fran shares that she attended Tyler Cameron’s charity gala in Florida, enjoying brand events and a packed social schedule (“Back-to-back club nights for your girl—it’s been a while. I haven’t done that in a long time.” – Fran, 03:38).
• Ria had a quieter weekend: chill dinners, movies (“my favorite dirty martini never disappoints”), and returning to tough workout classes—leading to “flu-like soreness.”
• Both hosts joke about the pain of being singled out in fitness classes:
  • “There is nothing I despise more than being in a workout class and being directly called out on the microphone…” – Ria (13:12)

Memorable Moments:

• Fran describes the chaos in Florida as temperatures drop and people rush to protect their orchids (“You should have seen the mad dash to cover the orchids…” – Fran, 01:59).
• Groundhog Day is discovered in real-time—surprise: six more weeks of winter! (“Did the groundhog come out yet?” – Noah, 21:51).
• Light banter and warmth characterize this segment, giving a “behind the scenes” tone.

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Segment 2: Tribute — The Passing of Catherine O’Hara

(24:08 – 28:32)

Discussion Points:

• Both hosts express shock and sadness at the unexpected death of Catherine O’Hara at 71.
• Praise for her comedic legacy, her unique medical condition, and the heartfelt tributes from colleagues.
  • “What an absolute legend. Comedic legend. One of the funniest, funniest people.” – Fran (25:49).
• Reflections on her impact through shows like Schitt’s Creek; Fran advocates for a Schitt’s Creek rewatch in her honor.

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Segment 3: The 2026 Grammy Awards — Red Carpet Recap

(31:00 – 42:48)

Key Discussion Points:

• Overall Impression: Disappointing red carpet—few risks, mostly safe "black dress" looks.
  • “I was left hungry. I wanted to be fed by fashion and was not.” – Ria (31:00)
• Standout Looks:
  • Olivia Dean in Chanel named “best dressed” by both.
  • Addison Rae, Chapel Roan, Sabrina Carpenter, SZA, and Lady Gaga highlighted for unique choices.
• Fashion Critiques:
  • “Bored by Madison Beer… gorgeous girls in prom dresses.” – Fran (32:02)
  • Negative takes: Miley Cyrus’ suit (“Not a fan,” – Ria, 32:54), Tate McRae’s “aging” simple look.
  • Chapel Roan’s near-naked dress sparks both confusion and concern (“If that dress gets pulled in one wrong direction, oh, oh, that's gotta hurt.” – Ria, 34:46)
• Men’s Fashion:
  • Jack Antonoff’s “jeans and a t-shirt” is too casual (38:08).
  • Double standards discussed re: Harry Styles’ unconventional looks.
• Memorable Banter:
  • Behind-the-scenes: Fran’s parents reacting to risqué fashion, which adds a family-friendly, humorous layer.

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Segment 4: The Grammy Show – Best & Worst Moments

(43:00 – 82:56)

Performances & Awards:

• Too Many Commercials: Ria laments the constant breaks; Fran points out logistical necessity for set changes.
• Opening Acts:
  • Bruno Mars and Rose set the tone, but hosts feel Bruno seems disengaged (“the light has left his eyes” – Fran, 44:27).
• Sabrina Carpenter: Praised for charismatic “airport set” performance (“She’s a pocket full of sunshine on stage” – Ria, 47:39).
• Best Rap Album: Kendrick Lamar wins yet again. Trevor Noah’s jokes at Kendrick and others fall flat—several hosts find his hosting style too repetitive and safe.
  • “He uses the same joke on multiple people. Okay, brokey, why are you asking everyone for a discount code?” – Ria (50:04)
• Justin Bieber’s Stripped Back Performance:
  • He surprises the room in boxer shorts, delivers a show-stopping, acoustic set.
  • “It was so good…I was mesmerized. The talent never leaves him.” – Ria (62:30)
• Bad Bunny’s Speeches & Wins:
  • “Loved Bad Bunny’s speech. He spoke from the heart and just to watch how emotional he got about winning… it was powerful.” – Ria (67:39)
• Tyler the Creator: Standout set—creative, explosive, and unique as always.
  • “He is just so creative and he always does something different.” – Ria (72:43)
• Ozzy Osbourne Tribute:
  • Red Hot Chili Peppers and Post Malone honor the late rocker. Cutaways to the Osbourne family are emotional.
• Best New Artist:
  • Olivia Dean wins a “stacked” category; a group performance highlights her and Addison Rae, who is “obviously lip syncing.”
• Miley Cyrus’ Odd Behavior:
  • Miley stays seated when Lady Gaga wins, which the internet explodes over (“I was confused about her not standing whatsoever. Maybe she was told not to stand for cameras…But I was so confused…” – Ria, 81:41).

Quotes & Moments:

• “The Grammys loves Billie Eilish.” (82:17)
• “Lots of people get awarded this year…not a lot of repeats, which is fun.” – Fran (82:56)

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Segment 5: Pop Culture News Roundup

(82:56 – 91:34)

Notable Topics:

• Kim Kardashian & Lewis Hamilton Rumors:
  • Reports of the pair secretly dating, possibly explaining Kim’s F1 race attendances.
  • “Maybe we’re in a friends-to-lovers scenario here…” – Fran (83:45)
• Devil Wears Prada 2 Trailer Drops:
  • Hosts are cautiously optimistic—nostalgia and Meryl Streep’s presence are big draws, but will it live up to the original?
• Connor Story to Host SNL (Feb 28):
  • Hosts express excitement and pride for the new star, noting his “meteoric rise” and hope for his well-being amidst sudden fame.

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Segment 6: Reality TV — “Traitors” Recap

(93:45 – 111:24)

• The “Black Banquet” twist (Episode 7) is discussed. Ria and Fran agree the episode was overhyped by the producers but still fun.
• Jam Jam’s dramatic exit (“It’s Lisa!” – Jam Jam) is debated: was his info solid or just a confident guess? The mechanics of the “traitor” game intrigue the hosts.
• Rob’s gameplay—breaking up the traitor trio for self-preservation—is analyzed. Candace’s loyalty to Lisa and subsequent vote becomes a focal point.
  • “You gotta just cut off the tie and go, all right, I'm gonna let her go down because I need to save myself…” – Ria (99:15)

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Segment 7: Weekly Watch Report & TV/Movie Recs

(111:26 – 140:34)

• The hosts share grades and reactions to what they've watched:
  • Finding Her Edge (Netflix): Guilty-pleasure, low-quality but addictive.
  • Love Island All-Stars/UK/Australia: Mixed engagement, “slow start but getting good.”
  • Send Help: Fun, engaging, not award-winning but enjoyable (A-).
  • Southern Charm: Dynamic between Craig and Austin getting old; show gets a B.
  • Tell Me Lies: B+/A-; hosts enjoy seeing less of Steven and more focus on other characters, rooting for Bri and Wrigley.
  • Miscellaneous: “Miracle: Boys of 80s” documentary (A), “Frankenstein” adaptation (grandpa’s rec!), “If I Had Legs I’d Run” movie (B-, “anxiety-inducing”, great Rose Byrne, not rewatchable).
  • Chicks in the Office clip airs on The View.
• Short notes on “Salt Lake City” reunion, “Ponies,” and other streaming highlights.

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Segment 8: INTERVIEW — Spencer Pratt

(141:39 – 171:16)

Major Talking Points:

• Spencer discusses his new memoir, The Guy You Love to Hate, and why he waited to write it (“I think there was a closure to my journey…Having everything burn down and start at zero.” – 142:16)
• On being a “reality TV villain”: Choosing to play the villain was strategic and lucrative.
  • “I would have gone harder. I phoned it in.” – Spencer, 145:21.
• Pulling back the curtain on The Hills:
  • “What they don't show…is Heidi was the biggest player I'd ever met. We were like a chess match.”
  • Scenes were orchestrated or outright fake, eg: after storming out of the car (“get out of my car”—Heidi got back in, and they went to dinner).
• Reboot Regrets:
  • The Hills reboot failed due to “image crafting”—cast trying too hard to control narrative and avoid being “villains.”
  • Confirms Misha Barton was a bad fit. “Now this cast is in the comments section. …But the only way to have a reality TV show is if you don’t change your personality based off what Joe Schmo says.”
• Life post-reality TV:
  • Explains his real relationship success with Heidi: “If I didn’t love Heidi…I wouldn’t be married, I wouldn’t have kids.” (162:08)
• Teases Heidi’s new music album, pride involvement, and his campaign to become Mayor of Los Angeles (runs on anti-corruption, “common sense,” making LA safe and clean again).
  • “I want my kids to grow up where I grew up, and LA was everything to me—it’s what made me want to be famous.” (166:48)
• Ending reflection: It’s easier to make people hate you than love you, and redemption arcs are possible (“If I can get people to hate me, it shouldn’t be that hard to get them to love me…” – 171:04).

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Memorable Quotes

• “Sometimes, you just want to take it how it’s going to take you that day.” – Ria (14:03)
• “You put Sabrina Carpenter out on stage and she’s just a Polly Pocket full of joy prancing around.” – Ria (47:39)
• “It’s not the ticket, don’t do it—being hated is not fun.” – Spencer Pratt (171:13)
• “Miley was just wearing pants and a leather jacket. So I was confused about her not standing whatsoever…” – Ria (81:41)
• “Now, watching reality shows is different for you because you can spot when something’s fake…” – Ria (150:29)
• “I think, as you’ll see, I started in reality TV creating and producing a network show on FOX. Everything was so fake, by the time I got to The Hills, I didn’t know you could be in front of a camera and not have a plan.” – Spencer Pratt (147:38)

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Timeline Recap

• 00:12 – Weekend stories, fitness class anxiety
• 24:08 – Tribute to Catherine O’Hara
• 31:00 – Grammy red carpet deep dive
• 43:00 – Grammy show performances, awards, hosting hot takes
• 82:56 – Pop culture news: Kim K, DWP2, Connor Story SNL
• 93:45 – “Traitors” recap and strategy
• 111:26 – Watch Report: TV and movie reviews
• 141:39 – Interview: Spencer Pratt (memoir, The Hills, reality TV, LA mayor run)
• 171:16 – Outro and live shows plug

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Episode Tone:
Conversational, candid, pop-savvy, equal parts playful and analytical—loyal to the Chicks in the Office brand.

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For Listeners:
This episode is an all-you-can-eat buffet for reality TV and awards show obsessives, with thoughtful fashion analysis, critiques of celebrity culture, and an honest interview straight from reality TV’s most famous “villain.” It’s a must-catch for those who want both pop culture highlights and deeper industry insight, without skipping the best banter in podcasting.

Transcript

[Fran]

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[Ria]

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[Ria]

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[Ria]

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[Fran]

Yeah, Voice.

[Ria]

It sounds a little rusty today.

[Fran]

It does. It. It's been a while.

[Ria]

You know what you need? You need some.

[Fran]

I know, I know. Is that hot?

[Ria]

It's hot water with lemon.

[Fran]

I could easily prepare that for myself, but I. But I have not. I do need it. I need some tea and it's. It's freezing. I know it's obviously cold at home, but I'm in Florida still and everybody's in a panic down here.

[Ria]

You should.

[Fran]

You should have seen the mad dash in the neighborhood to cover the orchids.

[Ria]

Oh, yes.

[Fran]

There, everybody's orchids are wrapped in like trash bags and blankets. They gotta protect them on the trees. Yes, it is crazy. It got very, very cold. But no, I probably haven't had two back to back 3am nights in quite some time. And I was tested this weekend. I was tested down down here. It's been a lot of fun. Came down for. It's my brother's birthday today, so. Happy birthday.

[Ria]

Happy birthday.

[Fran]

So came down to see some family Mio. Their. Their brand was a sponsor for Tyler Cameron's gala. That's for his Mom's foundation that him and his brother started to honor their mom. And they've been a sponsor the last few years, which is a lot of fun. And we get to go to the gala and have a great time. And they also did sort of an adjacent brand trip for the gala as well. That a bunch of girls were down here for that we were part of which was really a lot of fun. The girls were so lovely. Just like we had an absolute blast. And just full itinerary. Full itinerary of a weekend which I have. Like I said, it's been a while. Friday night afternoon, house party. Friday, Friday dinner out. Friday club, Saturday gal. Like it's just. It was. It was a lot in Saturday club, back to back club nights for your girl. It's been a while. I haven't done that in a long time.

[Ria]

Sounds like a blast. But you must be. But. But also sounds exhausting.

[Fran]

Yeah, yeah, it was. It was a ton of fun though. And yeah, I haven't done it a while, so. But you know, was that Bounce Del Rey. Haven't. Haven't checked out. Bounce Del Rey.

[Ria]

Franny at Bounce Del Rey.

[Fran]

Bounce Del Rey. Saturday we went to Mary Lou's, which was a ton of fun. A couple of the guys are. Are DJs. One of Tyler's very. Tyler's, couple of Tyler's very good friends. And they go by Country Night. They're a duo and they're fantastic. They played at Bounce and then at Mary Lou's. They got on the sticks, a little surprise, you know, little 20 minutes just up there giving everybody what they want.

[Ria]

No big deal. No big deal.

[Fran]

Yeah, so it was great. It was fun. The gal itself was so much fun. It's such a fun event that they put together. Fun for a great cause. You get to see a lot of these kids that have gotten these scholarships. The, you know, foundation gives out these scholarships to kids and they're so thankful and there's so many great kids. They've been able to give out 33 scholarships now, which is really incredible.

[Ria]

That's awesome.

[Fran]

They do a big auction, silent auction and then live auction, which is fun because they. There's a. There's really big events that they do. Like this year they auction off a masters weekend. There's always like a cool vacations and then there's always some sort of like bachelor adjacent thing. So it's. They did a. Some tickets to the Bachelor. Nation by Sea.

[Ria]

I was gonna say, when is that happening? It just reminded me of that.

[Fran]

I forget, but somebody got Two tickets to that.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Fran]

And very funny. Tyler also does, like, weekend with Tyler, so obviously, like, you know, whatever. A full curated weekend in. In Jupiter. And they. They did two of those, which was fun. It was like, you know, two people were going at it and they were like, what about two weekends? You each get one, so it was great. My friend Bridget came up from Miami with us, which was fine. JB had a couple of his friends with us. My mom came, and, yeah, we had. We had a blast. So it's a really fun weekend. And it's just, like. It's funny because Friday and Saturday, we had tons of activities. Sunday is like, when you're. You're home and it's so cold in Florida. There's legit. There's. I'm like, what? There's nothing to do. My mom was like, let's go do something. I'm like, what are we gonna do? And everything here is an outside activity.

[Ria]

Everything. Yeah.

[Fran]

She's like, do you want to go to the mall? I was like, not really. That's kind of.

[Ria]

That's.

[Fran]

That's kind of it. So. And it's so misleading because you look outside and it's beautiful. Sunshine, the palm trees and everything. But it's frigid, right? So that was that. And, you know, we had a fantastic weekend. Ton of fun. Like I said, like, they did a great job putting it all together. Such a great group of girls. I loved meeting everybody, and it was so much fun. So loved it. What about you guys?

[Ria]

That sounds like a blast. You look like a stunning disco diva. So much fun. Love a theme.

[Fran]

Thank you. Yeah, dressing up is so fun. And also it's fun when everybody commits. You know when you walk into a room and you're like, oh, hell yeah. Everybody. Everybody really wanted to go full disco for the. For the theme, which was awesome. Tate looked incredible. Tyler's girlfriend. Oh, my God. Just an unbelievable outfit from her. She did, like, the full disco hair and makeup and loved it. Everybody really went all out, which was so much fun.

[Ria]

Yeah, she did look awesome. Everybody did. Everybody did. But, yeah, it was cool to see everyone go all out. It looked like so much fun. I had a great weekend. Just, like, super chill. Just some good dinners. We went to the movies. We saw Send Help again because Kelly wanted to see Send Help. Matt wanted to send help. Noah didn't see it. So Noah came, Tommy came. We'll talk about more. More about that weekly Watch Report. But, you know, there's, like, something I really look forward to, is going to like our Local spot. Oh, wow. I think I lost my voice there. I was. I was not at the club two nights in a row, but that local spot sure did take me out. Yeah, there's something about going to your local spot, you know, where you're like, ooh, you know what we're gonna do Saturday night? We're gonna go to our spot for dinner and have a couple drinks. Just us too. And it, like, get. It just, like, gets you through the week, you know? So, like, all week, I was like, oh, I can't wait for Saturday night. We're gonna go to our spa, we're gonna have a couple drinks, some good food, and that's exactly what we did. And it hit the spot, and it does every time. Like, my. My favorite place in Jersey City has my favorite dirty martini. And it always hits like. It is never bad. It is always consistent, and it may not be, like, the best dirty martini that you've ever had, but it's my. You know what I mean? It's like, you. You have your favorite one, and for me, this place has it, and it's just like, oh, it just a cozy vibe inside of there. That's what you need on, like, a really cold night. So. So honestly, that was really it. I went to. I went to two different workout classes this weekend because I was going to solidcore for a long time, a lot. And then I took sort of a break from it because I just started just, like, regular strength training, just straight up weights in the gym for a while. So I hadn't been in. In a little bit, and I was sort of missing it. And I was like, you know what? I'm gonna go. I'm gonna go to a class on. On Sunday. If you stop going to that class for a while, and then you get back to it. Holy. I. I was being so dramatic yesterday. I was like, I'm coming down with the flu. Like, I am in so much pain. I feel like I have flu pains in my body because of how sore I am. Today I woke up feeling a lot better. It was inner thigh day and. Jesus Christ. And I just hadn't. Hadn't been in a while because I've just been doing regular weights. And I was like, oh, my God. I. I thought I was out for the count yesterday. Like, I. I was being so dramatic around our apartment.

[Noah]

I'm like, I think I'm coming down with the flu.

[Ria]

And I'm like, it's really just. It's. It's the workout. It's the workout that got me and then Friday I went to P Volve with Kelly, so we went in la, and then I've been a couple times before, and it's like Jennifer Aniston's, like, where. I don't know. Like, she. I always thought she came up with it, but just the workout that she likes and she, like.

[Fran]

Yeah, Like, I think it's. It's came from her trainer. Like, her.

[Ria]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. She's like the brand name person for it.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Ria]

So Kelly and I, first of all, were. The streets of Manhattan are just chaos because there's snow built up everywhere and the trains are delayed and. And if you're taking an Uber or a taxi, you're. It's stuck in a lot of traffic. So both of us on different ends were. We're running late, and we are sprinting down the block, and I am just huffing cold air throughout because I. I was. Thought I was gonna be late throughout the entire workout. I am. I am out of commission. I look, I'm not gonna lie. I look like a freak in this class. First of all, my equipment broke, and I had no idea how to fix it. So I'm doing one leg here, one leg over there. I looked like a goddamn mess in this thing. I was like, get. You know when you're just like, get me out of here like this. I. I need this to end so badly. That's. That's where I was at with this class. And then sometimes it feels like the instructor is just singling you and. And your friend out. And it's not like we're talking like, you know what I mean? Like, Kelly and I, you would have thought we never even known each other. But yet, for some reason, the corrections keep coming our way and. And, you know, you know, us after that, we were just like that. Like, are we getting corrected the whole time? But granted, I needed it because I was all over the place.

[Fran]

Yeah, I. That is one of the things when you. When you go to the class and you're like, I just. And if you're not in the mood, like, if you're like, you know what? It's a miracle I made it here in the first place. So let me just get through the class. And I know maybe I'm not lifting my leg as high as I could. Don't tell me I'm not lifting my leg as right.

[Ria]

Like, this is my journey for the next 50 minutes. So let me take this journey by myself. And if you want to come over and just, like, help me with a form quietly. I don't mind that. But when you get on the microphone and you're like, maria, let's fix that form. I'm done. I don't want to be in that class any longer. There is nothing I despise more than being in a workout class and being directly called out onto. On the microphone when you're doing something wrong, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Fran]

If they're like.

[Ria]

Like, yesterday, Maria on her toes, I'm like, hell, yeah.

[Fran]

Yup, that's me.

[Ria]

Friday, Maria, we gotta fix that. I'm like, I'm gonna run out. I'm gonna leave. I'm gonna leave the class right now because you are ruining my silent journey.

[Fran]

Sometimes you just want to.

[Ria]

You just want to take it how it's gonna take you that day. You know, I want to be told that.

[Fran]

I don't even want. I don't want to be told if I'm good, bad, anything. I. I just. Call me out if you think I'm gonna hurt myself.

[Ria]

You know?

[Fran]

Like, that's like, call me out if I'm on the cusp of having a major injury.

[Ria]

But.

[Fran]

But that's about it. Oh, my God. So I'm cracking up. I'm thinking about this Saturday morning, Friday night inbounds.

[Ria]

We're.

[Fran]

We're at the table. It's t. It was Tyler's birthday on Saturday, so they were also doing all the big birthday celebrations and everything. And I'm standing up at the couch and I. And there's a man in front of me, and he's talking. He turns around. I go, ah, Johnny bananas. I'm like, oh, my. Oh, my God. I haven't. I haven't seen him in forever. So we're talking, we're laughing, we're reminiscing about our first look episode, the whole thing. We're telling people we go way back. And he's like, oh, my God, you gotta come to rumble. I'm like, johnny, I'm not coming to rumble this weekend. Like, it's just not. Because I think he. You know, he owns the. I think he's one of the owners of the Rumble and Boca or whatever franchise. One of the Rumbles, because you can do that. And it's in Boca. And I was like, I'm not. I'm not. I'm not coming down to Boca. I'm sorry. It's just not happening. Because it's like one of those times. It's like a workout class not in the cards for me this weekend. It's just. Yeah, it's not. And the journey to Delray is even kind of far. It can be like an hour from. From where I live. So is that. But it was funny, like being in the club and him being like, come to rumble.

[Ria]

I'm like, no, yeah, that. That's like when you sign up for a workout class at 1 o' clock in the morning for 10am the next day and you're like, I'm not. I'm not going to this. Exactly into that. No. But yeah, there. There is really nothing worse than a workout class when you get called out and then on top of that you feel like it's just you. Right? Like, I'm like, there are 30 other people in this class right now. Why me? I can't possibly be the only person in this class that is doing this maybe incorrectly right now. Okay. Why me? That's how it feels. It feels like the world's caving in on you.

[Fran]

But I hear you.

[Ria]

A lot of fun. A lot of fun. I mean, I do just enjoy. I mean, I loved going to Solidcore for a while. I was going all the time, like very, very consistently. And then you were going a lot sort of fell off and I was like, I just, I just miss it. And then, and then yesterday afterwards I was like, did I miss that? It is quite. It is quite the fucking. Quite the fucking burn though. No. How was your weekend?

[Noah]

It was good. I really didn't do anything after that movie. Like, Tommy and I were walking home and we were like, yeah, I don't think we were both like, we're not gonna leave our apartments again after. Which is what I wanted. Like, it's so cold that, you know.

[Ria]

I'm having this thing with the cold that I'm like almost walking more to places than I eat, than I would like. I don't know, I don't know if that makes sense, but it doesn't because it's freezing out. But all weekend long I've been like, oh, let's just walk there. Let's just walk there.

[Noah]

This is like the type of.

[Ria]

I think you're like really enjoying how cold it is. And I'm like, I don't know something about it. Like I. I feel, you know, you walk outside, it's like you're. You're awake, you know.

[Noah]

Where, like your hands hurt though. Like, I like to go for a walk. Yesterday I got a haircut. Then I wanted to like walk home. It'd be like a 30 minute walk, but like holding an iced coffee. Like I actually like couldn't feel my hand Like, I had to take the subway.

[Fran]

Yeah, well, I mean, that's. User error.

[Noah]

Like, but there's, like, if it was.

[Ria]

Like, iced coffee the other day, too.

[Noah]

But if it was 25 degrees, I think, or 30 degrees, like, I could do it. But yeah, when it's 10 degrees, I'm like, this isn't fun.

[Ria]

Yeah, that. That is true. It's at night. I'll say. It's more during the day. I've been doing it because the sun. When the sun hits, it's better, but at night, it's just.

[Fran]

Oh.

[Ria]

Oh, my God. We got into bed, and my legs were still freezing cold from being outside. I was like, what is happening? My legs are just not warming up.

[Fran]

You probably have quite the view of the. Of the frozen river, huh?

[Ria]

I do. You guys want to see it? I. If I bring it up and I. It's gonna mess up the sound.

[Fran]

It's gonna mess up Noah. Literally, his face. He went, oh, no.

[Ria]

Yeah. I was gonna turn my camera around.

[Fran]

But send me a picture later. I just want to say, it's so crazy.

[Ria]

Did I not send you guys videos?

[Fran]

I don't think so.

[Ria]

Oh, I took so many videos last weekend of the frozen river, and I didn't share it with anybody.

[Fran]

I don't think so. I only saw on Instagram, you see that. That guy went viral of, like, the guy being rescued off that piece of ice with the. With the helicopter on the river. It's flying out. When did I leave? Thursday night was crazy. Like, taking off from JFK and seeing all the water and everything. That's just ice. And by the way, France forecast, we're barely cracking above. Above freezing, for we may. We may get close. 3132. And then it's getting cold again.

[Ria]

I saw that, and I thought, oh, my God, What a treat. 30 degrees. Like, I was. I was so excited.

[Fran]

Anything above 25 at this point is. Is balmy.

[Noah]

But it's not. It's not gonna snow again. It seems, at least on the forecast here.

[Fran]

It does not. Yeah. How'd you feel about that big snowstorm this weekend you were so confident about, huh?

[Noah]

I. I admitted once I don't see it on the app. Then I'm like, yeah, it's not gonna snow. Which is probably exactly what your guide does.

[Fran]

No, you see, he had it days before that when it still said it was gonna snow.

[Noah]

Well, that's true. Then he's a psychic or something.

[Fran]

Then he just knows how to.

[Ria]

You.

[Fran]

Who do you think? I. I'd love to know how, like where you think weather comes from? Like predicting weather? No, I'm telling you, meteorologists just check the weather app and that's how they decide.

[Ria]

No, I'm telling you, they feel their boobs and they know what the weather is.

[Noah]

No, he's just copying the, like, meteorologists on tv. No, that, that's what I've been saying. He's just checking the weather app and being up.

[Fran]

That's not what he's doing.

[Noah]

All right, fine.

[Fran]

It's very clearly not what he's doing. Anyway, we are stuck in a tundra. It is cold everywhere. Snow all up and down the east Coast. Really? I think it's been snowing like everywhere. My, My sister in law's in South Carolina. They're like, we got seven inches of snow.

[Ria]

They did. Yeah, I saw that. It's insane. It's insane and it's freezing, but I'm like making the best of it.

[Noah]

I don't know.

[Ria]

Like, I. I want it to get.

[Fran]

Warmer, obviously, but I'm like, you know, Phil Sundays. Phil says six more weeks of winter.

[Ria]

Oh, Jesus Christ.

[Fran]

It is.

[Ria]

Was today Groundhog Day?

[Fran]

Today's the day.

[Noah]

Oh, my God.

[Fran]

How did I miss that?

[Ria]

Wait, Matt loves Groundhog Day and he missed it. Oh, my God. I gotta text him.

[Fran]

Oh, my God. Tell him.

[Noah]

Wait.

[Fran]

I always know because it's. It's my brother's birthday.

[Noah]

Did the groundhog come out yet or that's.

[Fran]

Yeah, it happened.

[Noah]

Oh, it happened.

[Fran]

Pucks a Tony Phil predicting six more weeks of winter. He saw his shadow Monday morning. Six more weeks of winter, obviously. Noah, it's a groundhog.

[Ria]

What say.

[Fran]

I don't know how accurate that is.

[Noah]

No, I said, I wonder how accurate that is over the years.

[Ria]

I can't believe I didn't know that today was Groundhog Day. Yeah, sorry, sorry. I'm.

[Noah]

I'm like.

[Fran]

Here you go, Noah. I got it for you. Phil's predictions are accurate about 35% of the time.

[Ria]

Geez Louise, Phil.

[Fran]

Staten Island.

[Noah]

That's probably.

[Fran]

You know what? Staten Island Chuck is forgotten because everyone wants to talk about Punxsutawney Phil. Staten Island Chuck is. He's had over 85% accuracy since 1981.

[Ria]

Wow. We got to move on to him, Justice.

[Fran]

Like, then this whole news report is the video from Pucks Atoni Phil. But Staten Island Chuck is. Is way more active.

[Ria]

Staten Island Chuck.

[Fran]

Let's see what Staten Island Chuck says today.

[Ria]

Matt said, I can't believe I missed it. And that stupid bastard saw his shadow.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Ria]

Oh, man. We Gotta find out what Chuck saw is this.

[Fran]

Chuck also saw his shadow. We're toast, Charlie. We're cooked. Staten Island. Chuck also saw his shadow predicting six more weeks of winter. According to the Staten Island Zoo. Chuck has been accurate in his predictions nearly 80% of the time.

[Ria]

You know what? When we get that sweet relief, it's gonna feel so damn good. You know what I mean? I know when, when it's final, when we get that random 60 degree weather day in March that we get, or in February, which I don't think it's coming this time. I don't think it's February, February, March, when that random day hits where it's 60 degrees and everyone's hitting a rooftop and you're breaking out your mini skirt and maybe a little heel and you're pale as all hell, but you're just happy that 60 degrees, that day will come.

[Fran]

Yeah, that just gave me. That just gave me chills. We're gave you hope.

[Ria]

We're almost there, everybody. All right, we're going to get into the rest of the show. We have weekly Watch Report. We have an interview. We have a lot of topics. But before we get into that, we want to just talk about the passing of Catherine o', Hara, which was so sad. The news came on Friday afternoon. She was 71 years old. So young and for us, unexpected. I think we're still waiting for details about what was going on, any illnesses that she had. And it's just so heartbreaking. And, and to see the amazing words that people were saying about her all weekend long were just so nice and, and to see, you know, someone who is so loved and also so appreciated for who they are and their humor and always going back to that and, and teaching so many young actors great things. It's. It's just incredibly sad. So young.

[Fran]

I know it shocked everybody, I believe, like her age. Her agents put out a statement that she had a brief illness, so we don't really have any more details than that. I did not realize that she had apparently suffered from this very rare condition where the org.

[Ria]

Your.

[Fran]

Her organs were on the flipped, like on the other side of her body, which is crazy. I can only imagine what comes with that as far as like going to a doctor or being treated. It's like. Because every. They have to flip everything, basically. So I just. It was so, so sad.

[Ria]

She.

[Fran]

What an absolute legend. Comedic legend. One of the funniest, funniest people. I think you felt that from the words that everybody had to say about her, whether it was, you know, People she's worked with for years, newer people she's worked with. People have only gotten to be near her for a short amount of time, but really felt her impact. And lots of amazing Schitt's Creek quotes being thrown around. I know she had worked with Eugene Levy for a really long time. They'd known each other for. For decades and decades. So, you know, Dan wrote something really, really sweet as well, as did Macaulay. Culkin's post was also heartbreaking. What really crushed me, too, was they just started filming the second season. The studio in only, like, the last couple weeks, and I guess she has not been feeling great, so they kind of move some things around in the schedule. So she had not started yet, but they had already started the second season filming, which sucks, because then it's like, oh, so she's. She's not gonna be in the second season really, at all. And she's so great in the first season. What a great character. So just really, really, really, really sad. Just losing a great, great talent.

[Ria]

Yeah, it is really sad. But everything that everybody is saying about her, too. You wish that you could experience being around somebody like that. Like, I'm just seeing what everyone has to share, and she just seems so wonderful in, in all aspects, so incredibly sad. Shocking at the same time. And I guess we'll see, you know, what else comes out, comes out from it going forward.

[Fran]

Yep, yep, yep, yep. I think it's time for a Schitt's Creek rewatch.

[Ria]

Well, then I said to myself, I might have to just watch it fully.

[Fran]

You do, you do.

[Ria]

Because I hadn't in the past, and I thought, well, now I feel like I need to.

[Fran]

I, I, I really do think, and I know it's the same thing everybody says, and everybody had to say it to me. Everybody had to say it to me. You just, you got to get to the second season.

[Ria]

I think I watched it at the wrong time. Yeah, I think I would much, probably more appreciate it now.

[Fran]

Yeah. Yeah, I think you would too.

[Ria]

You know what I mean? I think I was just, like, smoking too much weed and just, like, you know, blah. But, like, now I'm, like, ready for some fun, you know, Shit's Creek.

[Fran]

It's, it's such, it's such a heartwarming show, too. Like.

[Ria]

Yes.

[Fran]

Got it.

[Ria]

And I love heartwarming.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Ria]

So I feel like I just foresee.

[Fran]

It being a show you. You would love to put on before bed.

[Ria]

Exactly. Exactly. All right, let's get into the rest of the topics. We're going to be talking about the Grammys. We have the red carpet and then the actual show. Allegedly Kim Kardashian is secretly dating Lewis Hamilton. The devil wears Prada to trailer has dropped. Connor's story will be hosting Saturday Night Live this upcoming weekend. We have a full Traders recap.

[Noah]

We'll be.

[Ria]

We also have the weekly watch port and we have an interview with Spencer Pratt. By the way, that interview that we were teasing, it's coming on Wednesday. It's a fun little thing and we'll leave it at that. And that'll be on Wednesday. I loved seeing everyone's reactions on Friday, which is like, we love Carl, obviously, but seeing everyone's reactions being like, wow, the office was going so crazy over Carl Radke was hilarious.

[Fran]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. You'll. You'll see what we're talking about when it happens, right?

[Ria]

And it's really cute and sorry, we've.

[Fran]

Been doing this to you for like two weeks, right?

[Ria]

And now everyone's gonna see and go, oh, no, I'm kidding. It's really fun. It's really fun and cute. All right, let's get into it. All right, let's get into the Grammys. We're going to be discussing the red carpet before we get into the actual show and the Grammys. Red carpet coverage is sponsored by Neutrophil. Good hair days do more than we can give them credit for. When your hair feels healthy, you show up differently. You're more confident, more relaxed, and you're not constantly checking the mirrors or addressing your hair. Nutrafol is the number one dermatologist recommended hair growth supplement brand. And it's the number one hair growth supplement brand personally used by dermatologists. Nutrafol's hair growth supplements are peer reviewed, NSF certified for sport and clinically tested to measure improvements in hair growth quality and strength. Let your hair be one less thing to worry about. See visibly thicker, stronger, faster. Growing hair in three to six months with Nutrafol. For a limited time, Nutrafol is offering our listeners $10 off your first month subscription and free shipping when you visit Nutrafol.com and enter promo code Chicks. That's Nutrafol.com spelled N U T R A F O L.com promo code Chicks. All right, let's get into the red carpet coverage for last night's Grammy Awards. I gotta be honest. I was left hungry. I was left hungry.

[Fran]

You were not fat. You were not fed. I wanted to be.

[Ria]

Did not feel like I was satiated. Satiated. Satiated. In the way That I wanted to be. For the looks on the red carpet, there were a couple standouts that I was like, wow, those are bangers. Olivia Dean, I thought was a humongous standout on the red carpet with her. With her Chanel gown. The. The feathers of it all I thought was stunning. I was bored by Madison Beer. Yeah, I was bored. I was bored by a lot of people, I'll say, to be honest.

[Fran]

The. Yeah, I would say, you know, bored by the people who do. Who don't really normally take risks anyway. You know, I felt the same way. Madison. It's these gorgeous, gorgeous, gorgeous girls. Madison Beer wearing, you know, what looks like a black prom dress.

[Ria]

Mm.

[Fran]

Same with. To be honest, that's how I feel. Even with, like, Haley Bieber. Once again, gorgeous jewels. Ho ho. Stunning. The earrings, the necklace, the glam stunning. But, you know, cute black dress. Like, it's just. There's. It's not. There's not a big risk. And I do feel like the Grammys are a show that you can have some more fun with with your look. Like. Yeah, even I. I thought Addison Rae looked so cute. I thought it was fun. I thought it was different. And to be honest, I thought it was like. I thought she was gonna be in something crazy, you know, And I thought so. Like, I thought that was fun, what she was into. So I liked that.

[Ria]

Yeah, I thought. I did not like Miley Cyrus's.

[Fran]

Not a fan of the. Of the Celine sort of suit look.

[Ria]

No, not really. I wasn't really a fan of that.

[Fran]

Yeah. I also saw a lot of people saying, like, the whole brooch situation was, like, kind of giving Hunger Games. I saw that thought a bunch. And I. I had. Would have had to agree. It definitely felt. Felt like that as well. I thought Sabrina. Are you gonna say Sabrina?

[Ria]

Yeah, I thought Sabrina Carpenter's was pretty.

[Fran]

Very pretty.

[Ria]

Very pretty.

[Fran]

It was cool. The beating was really, really beautiful. I liked that one. I liked that one a lot. Tyler, I loved always.

[Ria]

I always love Tyler's gowns and everything and everything she's wearing. Can we talk about Chapel Roan? Ouch. What the Was that?

[Fran]

Yeah, I mean, she had. She had to have had some sort of, like, covering breastplate on or something, like.

[Ria]

For sure, absolutely.

[Fran]

One. One kind of, like, prosthetic. Chapel Roan was in a gown that was covered, like, sheer, and then it came off, and then it looked like the dress was literally just holding on by her nipples. I can only imagine the amount of people that were, like, zooming in to try and see what the was going on there.

[Ria]

I was one of them. Yes.

[Fran]

Completely covered. And I have. I mean, there's just no. Like, it was some sort of prosthetic covering, whatever. Like some. Something over her actual boob. Because there's. There's just no way. And it didn't look like it wasn't like a real nipple. Like, if you really looked at it.

[Ria]

No, there was no. There was no nipple there. It was just hanging on. I just thought, ouch. If you get caught onto something and that dress gets pulled in one wrong direction. Oh, oh, that's gotta hurt.

[Fran]

Yeah, yeah. Immediate reaction is, oh, whoa. Ouch. I was actually. I was out to dinner very quickly before the show with my parents, and my dad was on his phone on Instagram and our po. Like, our pictures of her red carpet look. And literally my mom's sitting next to him. They're in a booth. She looks over. What are you looking at? What is that? My dad's like, I don't know. Your daughter posted it.

[Ria]

Oh, that's hilarious. Here's the thing. I'm all out for. I. I mean, I'm all, like, in for a nipple out situation. Like, you know when you could see. When it's like a sheer and you could see a little nipple. Like, I'm not against that. This. I just don't understand. Like, this to me, I just. I just don't necessarily like it.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Ria]

You know, like, I'm not like, oh, I love this look, because I don't really.

[Fran]

Yeah, yeah. No, I agree with you. I liked what she wore on stage when she was presenting a lot. A lot more, you know. Also, another absolute gorgeous girl wearing just a very simple black dress to me was Tate McRae. Like, and I. Tate McCray, I think. And I just feel like her Persona and the style she has, she's so cool. And then this was sort of like, it aged her.

[Ria]

I feel like she could do so much more. Like.

[Fran]

Yeah. Even. Once again, another beautiful necklace, but gorgeous.

[Ria]

But, like, we could throw that. We could throw the hair into a different hairstyle at some point.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Ria]

You know.

[Fran]

Yep, yep. I agree.

[Ria]

No one's taken a risk.

[Fran]

I know. I love that there was a lot of groups that did, like, matching outfits.

[Ria]

Cat's eye.

[Fran]

Cat's Eye was all coordinated. Heim sisters were all coordinated, which I really liked. I thought they all. I thought the 3 didn't look gorgeous. Cat's Eye was all. To be honest, I didn't. Some of Cat's Eye looks I loved and some I didn't like. I, I, I don't know. Something about the lace, like, looked maybe, like, a little cheap to me. I don't know. There's. But go there. Once again, stunning. And I love the coordination. I feel like I don't know everybody, like, all the, all the girl groups, like, got the memo to come in coordinated outfits, which I liked. Rose looks beautiful. There are some very pretty ones. Loved Gaga.

[Ria]

I always love Gaga because Gaga's always taking risks. I know her whole Persona is taking a risk.

[Fran]

It always is. And she always, she always crushes it in such a, in such a cool way. Kelsey Ballerini's gown was stunning too.

[Ria]

Yeah, she looked gorgeous.

[Fran]

I. That gold with the hair slicked back. Really, really, really, really pretty.

[Ria]

Yeah. That jacket.

[Fran]

Jack Antonoff showed up to the Grammys and literally, jeans and a leather jacket. Like, I'm sorry. Come on, come on. Jeans and a white T shirt.

[Ria]

So I'm cool. I'm just, I'm just gonna wear my jeans and a leather jacket.

[Fran]

Right. Like, it's just, like, too chill.

[Ria]

Yeah. Blase.

[Noah]

Harry Styles were jeans, though.

[Ria]

It's.

[Fran]

It's Harry Styles, and he wore a bl. He wore a blazer with, with nothing on underneath it, you know.

[Noah]

Double standards.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Fran]

For those two. Yeah.

[Ria]

You know, when it comes.

[Fran]

When I have no problem admitting that.

[Ria]

You kind of have. There is. When it comes to, you know, Harry Styles versus somebody else.

[Fran]

Let me tell you something.

[Ria]

Double standard.

[Fran]

Yeah. Like, there are girls out there, and I would feel this way where it's like, oh, well, she wore it. I'd be like, me and her not on the same level. That's not my peer. I'm not looking at her to see what I should be wearing. Jackie, it's enough. Isn't like, oh, Harry Styles did it. Like, that's, that's not, that's not happening.

[Ria]

When you put it like that, though. Sometimes I see a celebrity wearing something, I'm like, well, Hailey Bieber wore it, so I can. So I. Now I'm. Now I'm going back and forth because sometimes I do look at celebrities and go, well, they were. Wore it then.

[Fran]

Why can't I not? I, I do not have that issue. I'll see Miley Cyrus wearing something. I'm like, good for Miley. I. I shouldn't be wearing something.

[Ria]

You could be anything you want to be. You know, maybe that's what Jack Antonov said. He. He's like, I could be anything I want to be. And I want to be like Harry Styles. Yeah.

[Fran]

By the way, Harry Styles Also never wear.

[Ria]

That's was.

[Fran]

It was a bad outfit regardless. Like, it wasn't a cool chill outfit.

[Ria]

Yeah. I didn't like, I didn't love Harry's outfit.

[Fran]

I'm not gonna lie. I like Sopper's full sequins fit.

[Ria]

So did I. I thought he looked.

[Fran]

Fantastic when in the lace and the whole thing like that. I said, okay, pop off. Best new artist.

[Ria]

Yeah, I thought he looked great. He was, he was one of the best dressed for me.

[Fran]

Yeah. Nikki Glaser looked gorge. Wore that black, like a black leather dress. The video. I was crying, laughing. You see what she posted on her story?

[Ria]

Mm.

[Fran]

The Grammys posted a behind the scenes video of Harry Styles walking backstage. And the video kind of like cuts off right as he's passing Nikki Glaser and her face, like, she's like, like freaking out. And I'm pretty sure you can hear her be like, love you.

[Ria]

Listen, I love that Nikki Glaser is getting to go to all these awards. I hope that she hosts the Grammys next year. Yeah.

[Fran]

Because let me tell you, her three second bit on stage was funnier than anything that was done the whole rest of the show. But we'll talk about that when we talk about the show. Any other, any other standouts? Oh my God. My guy, Benson Boone looked adorable in his velvet. I want to call out the glam bot people because they posted a video of him getting ready for his glambot and they were all telling him to do a flip. And you know what? He. It's not like, do a flip. Do a flip. Every. It's. He's on the carpet.

[Ria]

Monkey dance.

[Fran]

I felt. And he was like, my pants, he was like, my pants are too tight. Like, I can't do it. And I was like, oh my God. Even at the glambout telling him to.

[Ria]

Do a flip, it's not right. It is not right what they're doing to that guy. Flip all over the place. A standout for me to wrap up the carpet was Sierra Miller. I mean, Sierra is just. Honestly, she's been crushing her looks. You know, she was at the Wuthering Heights premiere and she looked fucking stunning. And then last night at the Grammys, I loved it. She wore a classic black dress, but to me, this was like a standout black dress and she just looked stunning. That. That was a standout for me.

[Fran]

Totally. I did not like Heidi Klums dress.

[Ria]

No. Wasn't a fan of that either.

[Fran]

Was not a fan of that. I feel like that's really some of the major standouts. There was a lot of black. You know, that's.

[Ria]

That's a safe option, though.

[Fran]

Yeah, you know, it is. It definitely is. But.

[Ria]

But we're saying to step outside the box.

[Fran]

I know, I know. Well, but even like. Like Olivia Dean was one that is. You take. Has those elements, but you elevate it and make it really cool at this. I think. I think she was my best dressed.

[Ria]

Yeah, she's definitely up there. Her. Her and somber were. Her. Her gown, though. Definitely the best gown that I saw all night.

[Fran]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, agreed.

[Ria]

All right, let's move into the Grammys show itself. There were a ton of performances. I thought it was an entertaining night. Too many damn commercials.

[Fran]

Yeah, there's always too many commercials in the Grammys, though. And I like to tell myself that they need them because of like turning the stages around or in between or prepping that it's like they need those breaks. You know, Sabrina Carpenter's got a full airport on stage. Tyler, the creator is blowing things up. It's like they gotta. They need those in between times to clear everything out before the next person.

[Ria]

You know what? Thank you for bringing that to my attention because I was just like old man yelling from my couch. Like, there's too many commercials. There's a commercial after every award. Like, I was getting so annoyed because it was. It just was never end. Like, it was just, I want the entertainment. But now that you bring up that point, you're absolutely correct. How are they going to get the things on stage if they don't have time to do that? But it was an entertainment filled night. I mean, we start from the beginning. Sabrina Carpenter. Well, Rose and Bruno Mars opened up the show with a. And I just feel like this isn't really the music Bruno Mars wants to be making. You know, like something about watching Bruno perform this. I don't think his soul is in it. Like, I can just tell that Bruno Mars has more, you know, like Bruno.

[Fran]

Mars, I think, like the light has left his eyes. He.

[Ria]

He just is such a talented guy. I don't think that this mu. This music is his passion.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Ria]

Ah, but. But you can't tell me Bruno's like, yeah, this song fucking rocks.

[Fran]

You know, catchy as hell, but I don't know where. It's like, he. He. I almost feel like sometimes now they treat him like he. He's like the house band.

[Ria]

Yes.

[Fran]

Like, it's like, oh, we got a tradition. We got a transition happening. Let's send Bruno Mars out there.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Fran]

You know, it's like, let's get. Let's get. Let's get a Bruno Mars little house band transition moment. I know a lot of people still make jokes about him being in debt. I know that that's like, something that has been debunked. But there was a rumor there that he had, like, $50 million in gambling debt. And everyone was like, well, that's why you're seeing him everywhere. Yeah, gotta pay off the Z. But mgm, like, they. They denied that that was ever true and. And whatever. But it's like, I think also maybe because he had another performance. So it was like he opens the show and then they were like, oh, here. And then here's another Bruno Mars performance. You're like, why another one? He opened the show with such a big moment.

[Ria]

I will say I just went on that whole spiel about Bruno Mars being like, there's no way this is the music he likes. Meanwhile, we're talking about the guy who's known for, like, Uptown Funk. Like, it's. It's. This has been Bruno Mars.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Ria]

Forever. Maybe it's just this particular song. I'm like, why is this song so popular?

[Fran]

This song is just one that it gets stuck in your head. Watching the Grammys with your, like, parents, by the way. Like, me trying to explain to my mom what they were saying. I was like, I just can't do this. Like, what are they saying? Like, I just. I'm like, ah. So. But it's. It's a fun song. But you're not. It's. It's.

[Ria]

Right.

[Fran]

You're not finding, like, some deep meaning from the song.

[Ria]

No. When we.

[Fran]

It's like a fun pop song.

[Ria]

Yeah. When you hear it from your couch, you're like, don't you.

[Fran]

Yeah, you need me now.

[Ria]

And you're singing with Rose and Bruno and you're getting into it, but then you, like, have a come to moment. You're like, what was I just singing?

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Ria]

What.

[Fran]

What. What did.

[Ria]

What was that? Yeah, but they open the show and then we got a Sabrina Carpenter performance. And Sabrina is just a bottle of fun. Right? Like, you put her out on stage and she's just a Polly pocket full of joy prancing around that stage. She sang Manchild. Really cool. Set was an airport, you know, we had the near plane, the conveyor belts. She's prancing around. Reba McIntyre's going nuts. She's like, that's my baby. You know, like, it was a good time. It's a good time performance. Everyone. Everyone is enjoying Themselves watching Sabrina Carpenter.

[Fran]

Absolutely. She's. She's just like a. She's just a delight and like, a delightful palette cleanser that you're just like, oh, give me more. Sabrina. She's so great.

[Ria]

She's a pocket full of sunshine on stage.

[Fran]

She is. She really. She really is. I love that. I thought that was a great performance. I was fun.

[Ria]

It's.

[Fran]

It's unique. It's just. It's very. She knows her brand, you know, like, she plays her strengths.

[Ria]

Yeah, she does.

[Fran]

She was. She was great.

[Ria]

Then we moved on to the best rap album award. Was right off the bat. And Kendrick took this one home for gnx. Not a surprise.

[Fran]

I. I couldn't tell you.

[Noah]

I mean, I. I thought that maybe they'd be like, oh, we. We gave him so many last year that maybe we switch it up. But I think well deserved, for sure. There were some others that definitely, like, I would have been fine with winning, but good for. Good for Kendrick.

[Ria]

Yeah, always happy for Kendrick. And it's just always funny that it goes back to what Drake says. Kendrick just opened his mouth. Somebody just hand him a Grammy right now. Like, it's just. Every time. It's just Kendrick is always winning the Grammys.

[Noah]

Trevor. No, when he was, like, trying to joke around with Kendrick, like, after a certain point, I feel like you could just tell on Kendrick's face, like, all right.

[Ria]

Like, yeah, I felt that way a lot with Trevor. Trevor Noah, with everybody. Like, Trevor Noah would say a funny joke, but then it just kept going on and on and on. Like, the joke, it felt like it never ended in certain spots, you know?

[Fran]

Yeah. And it seemed like more of the stars were incredibly nervous for him to come to, like, their area. Like, it's like, oh, man. And I don't know, sometimes there's. There's a. There's an art to hosting that I think, like, Nikki Glaser, to me, does it in such a great way where there is a compliment in there or it's coming from love, but it's still, like, a funny joke. Sometimes I think Trevor Noah can. Can ramble into, like, the. You're so great. You're so. Oh, you're so great. You're so great. And then, like, try and slide in a joke, and then it's like it doesn't flow very well.

[Ria]

He also uses the same jokes on multiple people. Like, he. He said to Hailey Bieber, can I get a discount code on the road? But he also said that to somebody right before about their brand. He was like, yeah, he Literally made.

[Fran]

A joke to Pharrell. Like, it's.

[Ria]

Yeah. Oh, can I get a discount code? Like, okay, Brokey. Like, why are you asking everybody for a discount code? Yeah, yeah, I'm just kidding. That's like. Would have been a funny joke for one person.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Ria]

But then you are now using the same joke on multiple people.

[Fran]

Right, Right. Makes sense. Yeah, that.

[Ria]

No, it makes no sense. It doesn't make sense.

[Fran]

No, it makes sense. It makes. It makes sense that he recite. Like, it makes sense that he just uses the same jokes all night because I feel like he. It's weird because it's like he wants to push the envelope in other areas, but when it comes to, like, talking about the actual stars, it doesn't happen. Which I get. I'm sure that that's like a nerve wracking thing to say. Anything straight to these people's face.

[Ria]

Right. You could tell Justin Bieber was nervous.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Ria]

I. I feel so bad for Justin Bieber. It's like, I think he hates these things, but at the same time wants to be a part of them, you know? And he's. We'll get into his performance because he's just so talented, but I don't think he wants to be there.

[Fran]

I don't really know where he wants to be because you see him go anywhere, it looks like he doesn't want to be there.

[Ria]

Probably just at home in one of his mansions.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Ria]

On vacation somewhere.

[Fran]

I got tired.

[Ria]

He's been working since he was 14, 15.

[Fran]

And you know what? I. I think we're just maybe all a little too overly critical as well, where it's like, he's probably fine most of the time. Like, I know. We see him on the carpet and he's like this. And you're like, come on, Justin. Like, is. Have a little fun, you know?

[Ria]

Are you right?

[Fran]

And then it's like. But realistically, he's probably fine. Just probably doesn't want to fucking smile at all the cameras. And once he's off the red carpet, he's, like, enjoying himself.

[Ria]

I hope so. I hope so, because I hope so too.

[Fran]

That's what.

[Ria]

I'm pretty miserable most of the time.

[Fran]

I know.

[Noah]

What do you guys think of this whole baggy pants thing? Like. Like, what do you mean?

[Fran]

He's. Oh, that's. I feel like.

[Noah]

What do you think about.

[Fran]

I. I don't. I haven't seen him in anything else ever, so. Like, it's just his brand.

[Noah]

I know. I'm just like. I feel like it looks bad if I'M just being honest.

[Fran]

Yeah. The man loves an oversized outfit. He always has.

[Noah]

Yeah, I know. I'd, like, maybe, like, switch it up once in a while.

[Fran]

Well, it is.

[Ria]

It is the joke that what? Like, when people say when him and Haley show up somewhere, it's like, well, there's Haley and there's him. Like, you know, like, he's never quite meeting Haley's standards of.

[Noah]

Yeah, like, she dressed some guys. I feel like, pull it off or it's like, oh, that's like a look. Like. Like it's a baggy look. But I feel like him. It just looks like he got clothes that were, like, 10 times too big. It wasn't like, a plan, like, fit. You know what I'm saying? Like, he's just, like, wearing, like, 15 XL clothes.

[Ria]

In his mind, he's like this. I'm getting a fudgeing fit off right now. Moving on, Best new artists went to Olivia Dean, and that was a stacked category. And I have to say, they all performed, like, all of the nominees for best new artists, and it went one into the other. I want to say that I am so sorry to Alex Warren for not knowing anything about his story, because I feel like I knew nothing about his life. Really, I didn't. Or maybe I. Years ago I knew, but I feel like it escaped me. And we're watching. And his earpiece came out and it up his performance.

[Fran]

Well, he posted. He posted a video. Did you see? He played the sound of what was playing in his ear and it was like, all. Yeah, all jumbled.

[Ria]

Right, because the earpiece came out and.

[Fran]

No, no, because the earpiece was playing the wrong in his ear.

[Ria]

Oh.

[Fran]

Like, he had the earpiece in and it was, like, all jumbled up. Like, the mix was all wrong.

[Ria]

I took that as a joke TikTok that he made being like, this is what I heard.

[Fran]

But I. Oh, no, I think. I think that was, like, real. I think it was like, this is what I heard was hearing. So he tried to take the earpiece out to continue singing.

[Ria]

Oh, well, either way.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Ria]

Whatever happened messed him up. And he's so good. And I was watching, and I was like, oh, my God. He. I feel so bad that this is happening to him right now because he deserves this moment. And then Matt was like, well, do you know, like, his. The story about his life? And I was like, no, I really have no idea. And he told me, and I just started crying. I. I couldn't. I was like, that is so crazy. And I had no idea. And then he was in the. And I'm like, this, the guy from the Hype House? He's like, yes. And I, I just was like, wow, he really deserves this moment. So I was so happy for him. And at the same time, I was like, it's so funny that him and Addison Rae are in the same category right now, and they both came from the Hype House and two wildly different genres of music that they got going on, you know.

[Fran]

Very much so. Very much so.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Fran]

It was sad. It was like, oh, once he started to get behind the music a little bit, I was like, oh, no. I mean, I feel like he was able to try and save it there till the end. He has such an incredible voice. So I, I just. That was sad. It's like, oh, big moment, Grammys. And then you have that kind of technical difficulty. I felt bad because even at the end, like, when it was like the pause in the transition and it was like on his face and he just looked like he was so pissed, I was like, I, I, I felt so bad in that moment. I was like, yeah, he's, he's not going to be happy with, with how that went. What'd you think of Addison Rae?

[Ria]

She was obviously lip syncing, right?

[Fran]

Yeah, yeah, absolutely. I think, I think lip syncing is going to be where, where, where she lives. Not that, like, not that I, I think her music is so fun. I loved a lot of the songs on, on the album, but, like, I don't know if she's a, I don't think she's a standout live performer. Like, you look at that and then you listen to Olivia Dean saying, you're like, she's singing.

[Ria]

Right. I felt like that right there showed the difference between Addison Rae and the rest of the artists in the group was that, like, Addison Rae is a fun.

[Fran]

Yeah, pop.

[Ria]

Entertaining.

[Fran]

Right, whatever. Pop, Pop princess.

[Ria]

Right. And it's fun and it gives you what you need for that. But when you have her go back to, back to back with all the rest of these artists that are just have these ink, you have Lola Young, who just has an incredible voice as well, you then see the big difference and you're like, I don't know. I don't know if she belongs in this category with everybody.

[Fran]

So, yeah, same. The same way that you didn't know about Alex Warren. I had no clue Leon Thomas was the guy from Victorious. Like, I had no idea. I saw someone post on Instagram. I went, what? Yeah, I just, I guess I never, I feel like he, like, has sunglasses on all the time when he's performing. And I just hadn't made that connection. I thought, wow, what a talented cast of characters again, these young kids. But it is always funny when you see best new artist and it's been talked about for years that the best new artist category is like kind of a funny use of new artists because some are very much, yes, this is their first big song. This is. This breakout moment happened early. But it's almost like best breakout artists, like who. Who really had a fantastic year. Like Olivia Dean said in her speech, she's like, me and my Matt, you my. Me and my manager. We've been doing this for 10 years. It's like this was not Olivia Dean's first album that she's ever put out. There's people who have been working in the business for a long, long time and they get put into the best new artist category because they're, they're really being appreciated and discovered by the. By the music world. But some of them have been going at it for quite some time already. It's Sabrina Carpenter, like, that was an example too. It's like she's been working for years. So it is always interesting to see that. That difference. Someone like Leon Thomas, he's been, he's been singing for forever.

[Ria]

He's singing on Nickelodeon and now here. And it's true. It is really just when they get that recognition.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Ria]

It's not just. It's not brand new. After that, we went into a performance from Justin Bieber. He was incredible. And now confusion with him walking out in his, you know, boxer shorts, whatever it was, what I took from that was that it was a stripped down performance in his bedroom. There was a mirror. I thought it was supposed to be like, I'm in like my room or whatever, just playing my music. And it's just about the vocals and, and the music. It's not about the fancy sets or lights or outfits. It's just about me, Justin, singing my heart out. And that is what he did. And I had chills. I was like, this is a sexy performance. This it. And just shows his talent. Never leaves him. He is always so talented.

[Fran]

Yeah. Was just a reminder to all of us that he still has the voice of an angel. In case anybody forgot, he is. He is so talented. And I thought it was really cool. Like he came out, everyone immediately went, oh boy, he's in his underwear. And then he opens his mouth and you're like, oh, who the fuck cares what he's got on? He is just so, so talented. And I really loved the guitar. Situ. Like, I love that he came out. He just played the guitar. He was, you know, recording what he was playing on the guitar. So that when he stopped playing the guitar and just started singing, the. His guitar playing was just looped, so. Because I saw people being like, I thought he was going to play the guitars. Well, he did at the beginning, and then he let that go throughout the entire performance. And he is just. He's just such a talent. And you got to hear that full, stripped down version. There's also just something so amazing about Justin Bieber where he. His voice is so insane, you forget, really, the words he's singing. You know, you really. You're listening to the lyrics and you're like, these lyrics, it's still so funny when they're sung in such a serious way. But there it's so. It was great. It was a fantastic performance. I was really just so happy to see him on the stage and singing and having that. And having that moment that cut to Hailey a lot, which was no surprise, her and the audience. But everyone was loving it. What's not to love? Truly? It was so good.

[Ria]

It was so good. I just was mesmerized. And he didn't open his eyes once. He was just in it. He was just feeling the music, singing it. And Haley is just so beautiful. Like, seriously close up on her face like that. And it is glowing. Like, just. Just the best skin ever. Just glowing. It was just. That's how I felt when I was.

[Fran]

Like, fans think that he's debuted a new back tattoo of Haley's face that went crazy viral. And they were, like, using this cover of. I think Elliot was.

[Ria]

It was L. From 20 20.

[Fran]

Yeah. And that. They were like, this is. It's that picture, and it's tattooed on his back. There's a lot of shadowing in it, like, shading. Noah was texting the grouping, like, is it Jesus? I'm like, I. I don't know.

[Noah]

I. I still put my money.

[Fran]

Seems to be Haley to me.

[Ria]

I think it's Haley, because years ago, he had mentioned. He had mentioned that his back was open, and he was like, when I have kids, I want to, like, maybe put portraits of my kids back there. So I feel like maybe he started with Haley, and then we'll have Jack and then maybe, like, all the kids, like, on his back. I agree.

[Noah]

How would you feel about the matriarch? Like, let's. Let's say that Marty or Joe were like, tattoo guys. Would you be like, yeah, get my Face on your back or would that like, weird you out?

[Ria]

Well, if they were like tattoo guys, like they had full tattoos, I wouldn't be weirded out. But if.

[Noah]

No, I know you could have.

[Ria]

But if all of a sudden, of all of a sudden Marty was like, has no tattoos and wanted to get my face, I would say, please don't.

[Noah]

No. But like, I feel like still, even if you have a lot of tattoos, like getting someone's full face on your back and you have to see that every day is kind of like a little strange.

[Ria]

But if you are a tattoo person, like, that's not strange to you. Like, I don't tattoo people who have people's faces on them. And it's like not weird to. It's just like what they do, you know? So it's like.

[Fran]

I couldn't agree, I couldn't agree more, by the way. I think it's like if, if you're someone that's tatted up and the sleeves are done and everything, like, you probably have a lot of people's faces on you and there's a different spot. Yeah. Or there's, there's, there's something like that where that to me wouldn't raise a single alarm because it's like if, if my guy is Justin Bieber, he's, he's fully. Everything is, is tatted. So yeah, if you're my sweet, adorable husband who doesn't have a single tattoo and all of a sudden he was like, I'm getting a full ass portrait of your face on my back. I'd say maybe a problem. Ben Affleck gets that dry giant thing on his back, he'll maybe you're going through something.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Fran]

By the way, him and JLO are just like fully back together. Have you seen that?

[Ria]

Ben Affleck. And I thought these were fake. I thought these were old, old photos. I keep trying to not get got by them.

[Fran]

No. Hollywood posted a video yesterday of them walking like hand in hand in the street.

[Ria]

I thought it was fake. I thought it was old. I was like, don't get got by this.

[Fran]

No, I don't think so.

[Ria]

Oh, shit. I got to look into that after. That's interesting. You know what? Those two, they just can't quit each other.

[Fran]

I know, right?

[Ria]

But I thought it was old videos, but maybe not.

[Fran]

I gotta, I gotta go back and see if I can find it.

[Ria]

But it, I was trying to not get got by, like, old, old videos. Research.

[Fran]

I know, but they've been, they've been seen together a lot. That Is true. Like they've definitely been seen together a lot.

[Ria]

Interesting. Yeah, we gotta look into that after. But Justin Bieber, that was one of my favorite performances of the night. Foreign.

[Fran]

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[Ria]

Then we went into best urban music album Bad Bunny 1. Bad Bunny won twice. He won album of the year and also for urban music. Loved Bad Bunny's speech. I felt like it was powerful. He spoke from the heart and also just to watch how emotional he got about winning overall, love him, love him so much and was so happy for him. I agree.

[Fran]

I, I could not agree more. I was so happy for him. And you're right, what he said, just like the power of love and kind of just like rising above and he such a, you know, strong message, great message. He's so beloved and it's so well deserved. I'm so glad he was getting the, getting the flowers he deserved.

[Ria]

Yeah. He's just so incredibly deserving and watching him get that all night last night just felt so great. So, just so happy for him and I can't wait for the Super Bowl. I cannot wait to see him perform. You know, Trevor Noah was just doing like this bit with him the whole night being like, oh, will you perform? Will you perform? And he was like, got the super bowl, you know, So I cannot wait to see his performance. I think it's gonna be so much fun and entertaining and.

[Fran]

Yeah, yeah, I agree. By the way, I think I may have been getting got get and got got got by some old videos, too. I don't know. There's been rumors, though, of Ben and Jen. They just been spending time together, but it's also like, are they just. Are they just a beautiful blended family getting along even though they're not romantically together? But some rumors swirling that perhaps it. Perhaps it is romantic. I know. I thought that was funny with trying to get Bad Bunny to sing. Obviously, the super bowl is on. I think it's on NBC this year, so it's like. Like, he can't be singing on cbs. But it was very funny until it went on a little bit too long. Just like a. Too long. The first time he did it perfect. Maybe the second time could have been cut down by, like, three minutes.

[Ria]

Yeah, it did. It did go on for a long time. That's what I mean, though, with Trevor Noah all night was that it just felt he would do a joke and he didn't know how to move on from it. And it just went on and on and on. And honestly, the people there were probably like, all right, man, leave me alone.

[Fran]

Yeah, absolutely.

[Ria]

But to, you know, move towards the end of the night, because while we're on the topic of Bad Bunny, him winning album of the year, and his reaction was just so sweet. It was so special.

[Fran]

Did. Did you have a moment, though? Like, when that happened, I was like, is he there by himself? Like, does. Did he have a friend? Somebody hug him? Like, was.

[Ria]

I know, I know.

[Fran]

And I know he was. He was obviously very emotional and taking it all in, but I was like. I don't know if he was moved around during the night or what happened or if he didn't have anybody necessarily, like, with him, but I was like, agent, manager, family, anybody. Anybody there to. To rub his shoulders, be like, great job.

[Ria]

I know, I know. Maybe they were just letting him have his moment, and they were like, we don't want to. Yeah, he's really soaking it in, so maybe we don't want to disrupt it. I don't know.

[Fran]

Look, it was. It was very powerful. Seeing him sit there and get very emotional and obviously take a few seconds just to even muster up the energy to get up there, because he was. He was so surprised was so cool. But at the same time, I'm like, I'm laughing because, you know, Nat Wolf is behind him. I'm like. I was like, nat, give him a little fist bump or something.

[Ria]

Yeah. Well, now Will's probably like, should I bother Bad Bunny right now? You know? But there were so many great performances and other awards throughout the night. Kendrick Lamar and SZA won for best record of the year. Billie Eilish, Wildflower, one song of the year, which is a beautiful song and.

[Fran]

Definitely a surprise, I would say.

[Ria]

I think. Yeah. I think out of that category, people were surprised by that. Lola Young won best pop solo performance for. For Messi, Lady Gaga. 1 Best Pop Vocal album. I thought that was a surprise. I was honestly pretty stunned to see that. Although I was rooting for her and we got great performances. I thought Tyler, the creator's performance was fantastic. I love him because he is just so creative and he always does something different and expresses himself. And I thought he did that in his performance. I loved it. I also felt like it was maybe sort of a callback to Marty Supreme a little bit with the car and the gas station.

[Noah]

I didn't think of that, but I could.

[Ria]

I could see that because as I was watching it, I was like, wait, he's getting in a car, driving away. The gas station, you know, you know, blows up. Like, is this. It's Marty Supreme?

[Fran]

That's. I didn't think about that either. That's a very true thought. That there could totally be some connection to that.

[Ria]

I feel like maybe there was. It could be multiple meetings and multiple connections. But, yeah, that had. That had to have crossed his mind at some point.

[Fran]

Feels like that would his most stand.

[Ria]

Parallel. His most standout scene. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Fran]

No, definitely.

[Ria]

Look, I.

[Fran]

That it was very entertaining. He is. He's super creative. I love anybody that's going to come in onto the Grammy stage and do something unique and different, which, you know, is completely, completely what he did.

[Ria]

He always does. He is just so creative, such a interesting, weird mind. But it's always great to get an inside look into it.

[Fran]

What's the name of that. What's the name of the second song he did?

[Ria]

Sugar on My Tongue.

[Fran]

Yeah, that. That song. Always. Very catchy.

[Ria]

Yeah, it makes you wonder.

[Fran]

Catchy.

[Ria]

While watching him dance, I was like, this is how I dance in my home when I'm alone and it's come. It's comforting to watch him do it on a big stage.

[Noah]

Did you see the video of, like, whoever was sitting in the audience, like, after he, like, fell down the stairs, he, like, laid on the Ground for, like, another, like, minute after, like, the camera after, like, the broadcast stop. The guy was, like, filming him. Like, why is he still, like, laying down next to me? Like, committed?

[Ria]

He was committed to it. You don't want to get up too soon. I think it was still on you, right?

[Fran]

I think it was. I think it was Loffy.

[Ria]

Yeah. The thing is, you don't. Sometimes they don't take the camera away. Like, when Lady Gaga performed, she was staring at that camera for a long time, and they still weren't taking it away. And then finally, she breaks character, and then the camera stops. It's like, move the camera before she breaks character. Come on, Play into the art, cameraman. But there were other great performances as well. We got an Ozzy Osbourne tribute with Red Hot Chili Peppers and Post Malone. It is really crazy how much the drummer of Red Hot Chili Peppers looks like Will Ferrell. Yeah. It's really insane. Matt turned to me and goes, is that Will Ferrell with the backwards hat? And I was like, you got caught.

[Fran]

Yep, he does. He definitely does.

[Noah]

But that was pretty sick. That was probably my favorite performance of the night.

[Ria]

Yeah, I think.

[Noah]

Awesome.

[Ria]

That was so cool. It was so good. Post Malone did such a good job. Young Blood was probably just foaming at the mouth. Jealousy.

[Noah]

He looked like he was, like, very much enjoying it. But I did think, like, oh, it's kind of interesting that he wasn't involved in the same at all.

[Ria]

Well, they can't have Young Blood be like, he's Ozzy Osbourne at.

[Noah]

No, but, like. But, like, they could have, like, brought him, like.

[Ria]

Right. But at some point, they have to separate the two and be like, okay, Youngblood isn't actually Ozzy Osborne. He doesn't have to do everything that. That has to do with Ozzy, by the way. He give another person a chance.

[Fran]

He did win the Grammy for performing an Aussie song. Like, yeah. Youngblood won a Grammy for best rock performance for singing live performance from. From Villa Park.

[Noah]

The cutaways to the family were, like, seemingly very emotional. Obviously, it was.

[Ria]

I mean, they have been extremely emotional since Ozzy's passing.

[Fran]

Yeah. Yeah. I did not know that there was an older sister. That kind of blew my mind when I saw that she was there. And everyone was like, oh, my God, it's Amy Osbourne. And I was like, who the fuck is Amy Osbourne?

[Ria]

Right? She doesn't really.

[Fran]

No. And I realized looking back, it was like she, like, left home at 16 because she didn't want to be a part of the show or do anything. And then I had. I had no clue because I was looking at the table, I'm like, wow, that she really looks like Sharon. And I was like, that girl really looks like Sharon.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Fran]

And Amy Osborne. I had absolutely no idea.

[Ria]

But Youngblood is fantastic at singing Ozzy songs and, and, you know, doing him justice. And I thought Post Malone did a really great job too. Different than Youngblood, obviously. I thought it was nice to see a. A change up of Post Malone doing.

[Noah]

It, but bigger name, obviously. I feel like that's what it comes down to.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Noah]

The Grammys.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Fran]

Yeah. No, definitely, definitely.

[Ria]

I think so. But I think that they would let Young Blood do here. My take is.

[Noah]

I thought they could have brought him out a little too wet for a second. I don't know.

[Fran]

Okay.

[Ria]

He must.

[Fran]

I think he's probably pumped he won that Grammy for that performance.

[Ria]

Yeah, definitely.

[Fran]

Right? Like, that's. That's got to be best case. Best case scenario for him.

[Noah]

A tweet that called him Evil Harry Styles. Young Blood.

[Fran]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, the both of those tributes were fantastic, I think. You know, then they went into Lauryn Hill singing with. Singing to honor d' Angelo and Robert Flack and just like these amazing, amazing songs and amazing, amazing performances and performers. Everybody coming on stage and having all these moments was. Was really cool too. I just, like, there's just so many, you know, I kind of wonder. I. I text this too.

[Noah]

It's like.

[Fran]

The producers, the Grammy producers. It's the who who gets together and says, you know what? This is getting a full blown song performance. We're getting people together. Bob Ware's getting four seconds of a. Of a sentence.

[Noah]

To be fair, Bob Weir just died. I feel like this has probably been very much planned for like a long time. Like, there were so many people involved in the d' Angelo thing where it's like, clearly that has been like, yeah.

[Fran]

But the Grammys, they don't. They're not that prepared. They add performers, like last month, I guess.

[Noah]

Yeah. I don't know.

[Fran]

It's like they're like, oh, just announced.

[Noah]

D' Angelo was like a hundred people on stage. And then I feel like if they already had that, then it's like, how are they going to fit in a Bob Weird. Like.

[Fran]

No, I know. I'm just saying I thought they could have put together quite the group of people.

[Noah]

Maybe.

[Fran]

Yeah, maybe to honor him too.

[Noah]

I guess they were.

[Fran]

If they were looking for star power. Yeah, yeah, they probably could have done that too. But no, it was it was all around great performances and.

[Noah]

So Justin Bieber's your favorite performance of the night?

[Fran]

Yeah, he was. He was mine for sure.

[Ria]

I put him up there as my favorite performance. But I really love Tyler Creators and the Post Malone as well. Like, they were all kind of like, Justin Bieber's was first. So I was like, best performance of the night. But then those two happen, and I was like, okay, but if I'm gonna go back and re. Listen to one, it's probably gonna be Justin Bieber's.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Noah]

Lola Young was actually a cool performance too. The way that she sang messy in, like, a different way.

[Fran]

Yeah, it was cool. And I. I thought Olivia Dean was a favorite for me too. She just puts a smile on my face. She's just like a ray of sunshine, you know, red mini dress. But there's just so many Grammy Awards. They obviously don't announce all of them during the show. Is happy that Cynthia and Ariana won pop duo group performance for Defying Gravity. Fantastic performance. That was a big one for them. Lady Gaga, one for dance pop recording as well for Abracadabra. Love that song. Lafey won best traditional Pop vocal album. So there's a lot of. There's just so many. So many wins. So many ones that they don't even. That they don't even show what you think of. We were talking about it, but I don't know if maybe she just was not standing, because there were some moments that they cut to her where she was just like, not standing when everybody else was standing. But everybody freaked out that Miley Cyrus didn't stand after Lady Gaga won her Grammy that Miley was also nominated for. And the Internet kind of went crazy of like, oh, like, was that, like, kind of shade? I was like, I don't know. I think Miley just, like, didn't stand up for legit anybody the whole night.

[Ria]

I was unhappy about this. Seeing Miley do that. I thought to myself, why not stand up for literally anybody? She didn't stand up at all, right? And if she was wearing a dress that you can't stand in, I would understand. But she was just wearing, like, pants and a leather jacket. So I was confused about her not standing whatsoever. Maybe she was told not to stand for cameras.

[Fran]

I have no idea.

[Ria]

I have no idea. But I was so confused. And especially when Lady Gaga won and she didn't stand up, I was unhappy with that. I was like, no, Miley, you can't be doing this right now. You're gonna stand up.

[Fran]

I know.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Fran]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Ria]

I would like to think it was a technical difficulty and not because she just wasn't standing in general, because. Yeah, then that would confuse me. It's like, well, everyone's standing up for everybody. Why aren't you standing?

[Fran]

Agreed. I think that's kind of all the big moments, right?

[Ria]

Yeah. That was the standout moments of the night and it was a fucking long show. But it was entertaining.

[Fran]

It was.

[Ria]

It.

[Fran]

It definitely was. The Grammys loves Billie Eilish. Like you said. Love seeing her with her. With her little date. That was cute.

[Ria]

So cute.

[Fran]

And yeah, I felt like that was. It was a. Like, it's long. The Grammys are always a long night. But great, great performances. And I did love that it was a good mix of winners. There wasn't a lot of repeats. There wasn't like one song that kind of swept all the major categories, which I think is fun when lots of people get to. Get to be awarded for their work this year. So.

[Ria]

I agree. I thought it was. It was great all around to see so many people be. Be rewarded. Yeah. Moving on to the next topic. Kim Kardashian allegedly secretly dating Lewis Hamilton. Which I feel like, okay, we haven't seen Kim Kardashian dating somebody in the news for a little bit. Felt like it was like Tom Brady. It was Odell. And now we have F1 driver Lewis Hamilton, which. Does that explain why she was at so many races? And I think she went to go see Lewis Hamilton. And I'm like, are people getting this confused? Are they actually dating or are they just spreading a rumor here? Right.

[Fran]

If that could also be very true. They've definitely. I mean, they've been friends for a long time. So I don't know if we've. We're in a friends to lovers scenario here.

[Ria]

A trope.

[Fran]

Yes. They've never been romantically linked till now. They've been photographed together multiple times. They've known each other for a long time. Per the Sun. Kim left L. A. On Saturday afternoon on her private jet and met up with Lewis Hamilton to stay at the Estelle Manor in the Cotswolds.

[Ria]

I went there.

[Fran]

That's apparently where they were. The two had a very romantic weekend, per source, while being trailed by their security guards to ensure their privacy. Insider told the outlet that the pair shared a room and had exclusive uses of the pool and the spa. And then they apparently checked out 11am Sunday and they left in two separate cars with Kim going back to the airport.

[Noah]

Wow.

[Ria]

You know, that is a super private location. And that would make a lot of sense if they were looking for a little getaway in a. Somewhere where no one can find them.

[Fran]

Yes. And apparently they were both at Kate Hudson's New Year's Eve party in Aspen, but they were not photo. They were not photographed together there, but apparently they were both there.

[Ria]

Maybe they were vibing at the. At the party. Maybe that's. That's what led to this little cost walls trip.

[Fran]

Yep, yep. That's very possible. They've known each other for a long time since, so I don't know. You never know. Maybe this is a little connection.

[Ria]

Maybe Lewis said, oh, it's time for me to take her out on a little. A little trip.

[Fran]

Yeah. He's 41, she's 45. Feels appropriate.

[Ria]

Age appropriate. I like that.

[Fran]

You know, like, it's. He's obviously extremely successful as well.

[Ria]

Of course.

[Fran]

So very interesting. I thought.

[Ria]

I. I don't know.

[Fran]

We'll see. They've known each other for a while because I think that they, like as far as couple friends, like, when Kim was with Kanye, he dated Nicole Scherzinger for a while. So it's like, I think they did a lot of coupley things together, which is interesting when things switch around. But it's been a long time.

[Ria]

Very late. They're like.

[Fran]

It's been 10, like, you know, 10 years at this point.

[Ria]

So you were a lot of fun on that double date. I'd love to take you out on. On our own. Yeah.

[Fran]

Yeah, exactly. So I don't know. We'll be keeping our eye on this one.

[Ria]

We'll keep the tabs on that. Yes. The Devil Wears Prada to trailer came out, and it looks pretty good to me. You know, I was nervous when we were seeing it being filmed around Manhattan and we were seeing tidbits about what they may have been filming. But the thing is, Meryl Streep is just such a phenomenal actress that when she graces your screen, it immediately makes the movie better. Right. So, like, as soon as you hear her in that tone, in that Miranda tone, you're instantly brought back, you're instantly at ease, and you're ready for the second movie to come out.

[Fran]

Absolutely. And I am still a little worried because the trailer really didn't give much away, which I'm happy about. I will say, like, I'm happy that it wasn't a two and a half minute trailer where you felt like you watched the whole movie already. It really didn't share much of the plot at all. It's just like they're all back together, and she's the new features editor for Runway. So it's like, oh, so that's. That's the setup. And it was a good couple callback jokes to throw Emily in there.

[Ria]

It.

[Fran]

It makes you feel like you're back in the universe without giving away really where the story is, is gonna go. And like you said, you got some iconic Miranda Priestly moments already. It's like she, her acting like she completely forgets who Andy Sachs is. Love it. Great. That's into how I would expect it to go.

[Ria]

Plays into Miranda so well.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Ria]

And I'm excited to see it. Like, I think, is it gonna be better than the first one? No, there's no way. There's no way it's gonna touch the first one. But I think it will give us what we're looking for, and it won't be something that we're, like, greatly disappointed by that. That's the way I'm looking at it. Because I just think that we have a ton of great actresses all together in a movie. And whenever, whenever Meryl Streep is on the screen, you're just captivated. And that's what's giving me hope for this second movie.

[Fran]

I agree. And you get a little. I love Stanley Tucci's character in the. In this movie. I'm so excited to see him back in this role. It's, like, one of my favorites. So I, I, It's. It's just exciting. It's exciting. They didn't really tease any of the cameos. We just have obviously heard about all them that we're gonna get. So we'll see as we get closer. Maybe they release another trailer or teaser or something. But I thought that this was very strategic and smart on their part to play into the nostalgia, give a couple jokes, but not share really too many plot details.

[Ria]

Yes, I agree. Moving on. Connor story is hosting SNL February, Saturday, February 28th. So exciting. And also so soon after being thrust into stardom. Like, I just feel like it takes usually a long time for people to make it onto Saturday Night Live, but not Connor Story. He's going to be on there.

[Fran]

Look, I, I agree. I'm so happy for them. I think that they are on a meteoric rise here. I mean, we got snl, Hudson's walking in Fashion Week. It's just like, they are. They're thriving. You know, I hope they're taking care of themselves. Put my mom hat on for a second to be like, it's a lot of fame. All at once. Hope they're taking care of themselves. Could be overwhelming. A lot of outside voices, I'm sure they're being told like, you gotta do this project now. You gotta do that project now. So many different things coming across their desk. SNL is a great one because if there's one thing we know about Connor, the man can do an accent. So I just feel like they can really have some fun with him on SNL and see, and see what he can do. Because I just feel like sketch. He will be so good at it.

[Ria]

I totally agree. I mean, just the fact that you pointed out that he can do such a good Russian accent. But I feel like the world is Zoister when it comes to Saturday Night Live. And I'm happy that he got on it so soon. Like, it really takes people years and years and years to get on Saturday Night Live and yet he does one banger of a show and they're like, we want you. Which is so exciting for him. So well deserved. Such a sweetheart. And he's been wanting this since he was literally a little kid. So it just makes me so happy. Mumford and Sons will be the musical guest as well. Uh, so it's gonna be, it's gonna be a great episode and I, I'm just thrilled for both of them. But you're right, I do hope they're taking care of themselves. They are all over the world right now. Hudson Williams basically did a hard launch of his girlfriend on Instagram in a slide picture with her and then I missed that. Yeah, well, it was like in a slide and at the end it was her and Connor like eating ice cream together in Europe and somebody commented like his boyfriend and girlfriend and he liked the comment. So I think he was just confirming. And you know what that' because I'm sure there are tons of people pining at him right now and people have been wanting to know, did he have a girlfriend? Does he not have a girlfriend? And you know, just throwing that in there. Just a little tidbit. Probably doesn't have to show too much, but let's just like I hear, you know, I'm a taken man and that's that.

[Fran]

Totally.

[Ria]

It was sweetened to see her hanging out with Connor as well. So I'm just so happy for our guys and I can't wait to watch Connor on Saturday Night Live. This is one that I would love to tune into Live because it's, it's probably just so exciting and nerve wracking and all of the things at once for him.

[Fran]

So a lot of rumors about him and Francois. Have you seen that? Because they've just been, like, out and about together a lot.

[Ria]

I have. But there are two guys that really do want to keep their. Their personal life private. So I just kind of. I'm like, okay. Hudson, you know, gave us his girlfriend to confirm that. And I'm like, I'm not going to look too much into what's going on with Connor because I feel like he was, like, so adamant that he wouldn't be sharing about his personal life.

[Fran]

So Francois as well.

[Ria]

Yes. They seem pretty adamant about that. Yeah, they do. Which I respect. But we're seeing the pictures, right?

[Fran]

Right. Seeing the pictures.

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[Ria]

All right, let's move into our Traitors recap. Episode seven was the banquet. They called it the Black Banquet. They should not have hyped up this episode the way that they did because although it was a great episode, the banquet itself fell a little short for me because I feel like they hyped it up like it was the most insane thing to ever happen. And yeah, it was entertaining. And jam. Jam being like, it's Lisa. Like, all of that was. Was entertaining, but it wasn't some insane carnage as Alan worded it to me. Although A great episode.

[Fran]

Yeah, I think that's fair. I think anytime shows like this hype up one singular episode, it gets fans a little bit too excited. They think it's going to be like, the craziest thing to ever happen. Granted, I do think Jam Jam screaming it's Lisa as he's being pulled out of there was crazy. And I think for them in the moment having that happen, they were like, this is nuts. So living through that, I'm probably sure. I feel like that's probably why they were like, oh, my God, wait until you get to the banquet. It's crazy because I don't think they've really. It's not like they've had that happen.

[Ria]

But my question is, it's not like Jam Jam knew that it was Lisa for 100 fact.

[Fran]

No, no.

[Ria]

It was. For some reason. It wasn't being brought up that it was pure speculation. Like. Like the way that they were bringing up the argument that Jam Jam was like, well, Jamsam said it was Lisa and he has no reason to lie. He's a faithful. Yeah, he's not lying, but he's also speculating. He doesn't know for a fact that it's Lisa. Like, nobody was bringing that part up, which was driving me insane. Like, he was speculating and he was correct.

[Fran]

But yeah, he was just going off the kiss thing, though. Like, he was totally, really confident about that. Right.

[Ria]

But it wasn't the case. But also it was like, the bigger.

[Noah]

Thing is, like, people saying, like, he shouldn't have been able to say anything after you're out, you're out. Like, because that's kind of both. Like, you're.

[Ria]

But he doesn't. But he doesn't know he's a faithful. It's not like he knows.

[Noah]

But.

[Ria]

But the traitors are.

[Noah]

Rob's whole argument about, like, if two people are lying, he had nothing to lose, which is kind of true. Then it's like, that's unfair because it's like, here, you're out of the game. Why would he be lying then? Like, he's out. He's like, Lisa, like. So then that whole argument is like, there's no way Lisa could have gotten out of that.

[Ria]

Right. But it's just speculation. That's what I. I'm confused why nobody is saying that. Like, Rob being like, he has no reason to lie. Yeah. But he also doesn't know for sure.

[Noah]

That he is faithful. But people are going to believe probably his word more than someone who's like. Like someone who's still in the game, they're like, oh, he must know. Like, he.

[Ria]

Right. I'm just.

[Fran]

I think you take the words of someone that's a faithful on their way out over anybody else in the game because you're like, he was a faithful. And there he goes, and he's screaming about this, and now he's not in.

[Ria]

The game anymore, and he turns out to be right. But he didn't know for sure. I think that's what I'm stuck on is like, everyone's acting like Jam jam knew for 100 fact that Lisa was a faithful. He didn't know. It was not like he was pulled out and also had all the answers to the game. Like, that's not what happened.

[Fran]

Yeah, yeah, no, absolutely. But I think him. He just like anything in this game. No one knows anything for sure.

[Ria]

Right.

[Fran]

Just have to be really confident in what you say. And I think they were just going over the fact that Jam Jam were like, wow, that just proves that he's the faithful and he's extremely confident that the kiss is what did it and whatever. So it's like, yes, it wasn't the kiss, but his confidence in the answer is clearly what. What threw everybody into it. I know that a lot of. Lot of mixed feelings on Rob for this episode. I've seen people upset with him. I've seen people think he's, you know, making. Making good moves. I think you can be both. Like, I'm sad that he went against his fellow traitors, but I get why he did it because he's still looking out for himself. And it did feel like Lisa was a sinking ship. And at that point, it's like, well, I think I've done as much as I possibly can. I now have to sort of flip it. And I'm. He.

[Ria]

He.

[Fran]

He goes anti. He goes anti traitor trader on trader crime here against. Against Lisa. I also just don't love. I just don't love it because it's like, he's just besties with Colton. So it's like, I know you're a traitor. It's fine. But he's making these moves because he's playing this game, like, step by step with Colton, which I'm like, fine, I guess.

[Ria]

Right? I'm gonna go into this thinking that Rob had no idea about Colton's past, which would then, you know, make things a little bit more clear as to why he buddied up with him. But also, it's like, you don't need to do everything Colton's saying. He's letting. But in is he just doing that so that when he gets to the end, he could fool Col like, you know, that's also an aspect. I was fine with Rob's move because although I was rooting for Lisa as a trader because I thought Lisa was iconic on this show, she was awful. She was awful at a lot. A lot of points. When the finger was being pointed at her as the traitor, she had no argument to flip it around and was really bad at defending herself against being a traitor. So at some point, you gotta just cut off the tie and go, all right, I'm gonna let her go down because I need to save myself now. Did he have to put up some strong argument about why Lisa was a traitor? No, he didn't have to do that. I think that everybody at the roundtable has to speak is my assumption with production. I feel like everybody has to have. Has a moment where they talk, which is fine, but I feel like he could have made his moment. Be like, a lot of people are bringing up a lot of good points, and at this. At this, you know, stage, I just feel like, I don't know, between Natalie and Lisa, just keep it, like, pretty generic or be like, you know, I'm. You know, people are making great points about Lisa. The man was doing a whole spiel about why Lisa was the traitor. So I feel like on that side of it, I understand voting Lisa out, and I feel like Candace honestly should have just voted for Natalie, knowing Lisa was going to be gone. But I do get why Candace did that, because now immediately I would be like, all right, I understand this whole no, rude, you know, voting for housewives thing, but Candace being like, I can't vote for Natalie or Lisa, and I'm going to write Rob's name down. I'd be. I'm going to be taking a double look at Candace. And then if Candace goes, I'm going to go, well, she wrote Rob's name down. Rob's a traitor. Because it seems like she just picked, you know, I'm going to. I'm unhappy that Rob's going against Lisa. So now Rob's a traitor. So I would just be looking. If they do get to the point of looking at Candace, then I would also be looking at Rob. But you can also make the argument of Candace being like, she wouldn't vote for Natalie either. You know, is Natalie a traitor? With Candace and Lisa, like, there's all these different arguments where I feel like if Candace just wrote Natalie's name down, then she and Rob could have got together and Be like, all right, now, let's ride this to the end, because no one's suspecting Katniss as a traitor right now. Yeah, I feel like they could have worked something out to work together, but it seems like going forward, that's not going to be the case. I don't think they're going to work together, and I think they're both individually playing a good game for themselves. Like, I think I. I don't have a large problem with either of their moves that they made. Candace writing Rob's name down, I think she did it is like a fuck you. If I go down, you're going down with me. And Rob's like, well, Lisa's going down, and I'm. I'm getting away from that. I'm going to save myself. Yeah, I agree.

[Fran]

I think I was kind of confused by Candace's move at first, and then it's kind of clear that she. Her defense of Lisa is going to come back to her, I think. So it's like, you know, if you're really the only one out here sticking up for Lisa, that's gonna now point some fingers at you. If that does happen and they. They get Candace out, I think they'll think back on this vote and be like, that was weird. She voted for Rob. Is it because they all started to turn on each other and. And you see what happens from there. From what I'm gathering from social media, Candace. There's no love lost between Candace and Rob right now, so it'll be interesting to see what happens. They've had some sassy comments back and forth to each other on Instagram, so I have a feeling their traitors alliance is going to blow up when we watch the next episode. Do I wish Rob was able to stick with these ladies and make it work? We know the housewives really honor loyalty. Loyalty is very important to them in their friendships. And I think Candace is going to be very upset with his. With Rob's disloyalty to the. To the rest of the. Of the gals. But.

[Ria]

Rob.

[Fran]

I get what Rob was doing for sure. I think he knows he's really flying under the radar. And I feel like he's reached the point in the game where he's like, I may actually be able to win this, and if I do, I gotta make some big moves right now that's gonna make me look like a faithful.

[Spencer Pratt]

And.

[Fran]

And that's what he did. So we'll see if it works. We'll see if it. If it doesn't. But no One's really thinking about. No one's really thinking about Rob right now. But my God, it's like the way the show is. Is edited, does. Does no favors to Colton because it's like after every roundtable, it makes it seem like Colton sits down in a room and is like, you know, who I think's a traitor? And like just like immediately throws out another name. And you're like, colton, calm five seconds. Just calm down before you're like, I know who's the next traitor.

[Ria]

Yeah. Okay.

[Fran]

But it's like the way it's cut makes it seem like that happens right away every single time.

[Ria]

Right. Sadly, I think. And I've been shitting on Colton. Sadly, I think that would be me. If I was a faithful. I think that I would just be thinking about this non stop and I. I would be like, I don't fucking trust anybody ever. And I'm on to all of you. And. And I thought that way about with. With Maura at the banquet. She's standing next to Lisa and Jam Jam. When Jam Jam fixes Lisa's brooch.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Ria]

Just has no idea what's going on. Like, I. I just feel like, how are you not paying attention and overthinking every single thing, you know?

[Fran]

Like, yeah, yeah.

[Ria]

I'd be thinking back to that moment, be like, Jam dad did fix Lisa's brooch. You know, after all of this, after it all connects the dots, a traitor, Jam dad gets out because Lisa did kiss everybody on the cheek. So it's like it clearly wasn't the kiss. We have to look at something else that happened. What else did anybody witness Lisa do with Jam Jam? So I don't know. I feel like more is just like, not paying attention to anything that's happening.

[Fran]

That's also. I don't know. It's smart because that's just such a minuscule thing that I don't know if it. I don't know if it gets on anybody's radar. Like, I don't think if anybody was thinking, like, something with their outfits. Because it's smart. Because everybody's outfit is so outlandish.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Fran]

That it's like, well, everybody's in crazy stuff, so they're thinking about the food, the cards. Like, they're thinking about things that seem slightly out of place instead of looking at things that are so in plain sight, like something on an outfit or like something like that. Which was. Which is smart. I think the brooch was like, a really good move as far, like, just for production goes in terms of, like, what. What they needed to. To change or use, because they immediately went to bigger actions, like, oh, who served me this? Or who did that? Or did I move this card? And, like, whatever. Or a kiss. It was, like, a lot of physical action. It was more like.

[Ria]

They were all.

[Fran]

Thinking of it as, like, the traitor did something to me, not I did something to the trader. You know, oh, I gave the traitor this. And that was. It was like they all thought, oh, you serve me food. You kiss me on the cheek. You like you did this. When really it was the other way.

[Ria]

Poor Stephen Coletti just wanted to be a gentleman and. And serve food. And everyone was like, it's the turkey.

[Fran]

I was just trying to cut the turkey.

[Ria]

And Mark. Mark was like, guys, it's not the turkey. We're all eating the same turkey. So that. That was really funny. He was just trying to get his point across that it wasn't the turkey. I think, as for the challenge and Rob getting the dagger, incredible that he was able to get the dagger. I mean, yeah, just look at everybody in the face and find out who's lying, and he actually nails it. Yeah, we were all. We were all pretty jazzed up to see him do that. I would say.

[Fran]

I think it helps that, you know, what benefited him, that there was only one lady in the group.

[Noah]

She. She did not have a good poker face. It looked like she wanted him to take it.

[Ria]

Yeah, she. She was not good at hiding that. It was. It was very poor execution on her part. I will say, though, I don't understand why Rob would tell the group about the dagger unless he were to say to them, hey, guys, let's. Let's use this going forward for somebody we all want to vote for, because telling everybody he has the dagger doesn't do anything for everybody, for anybody.

[Fran]

Wouldn't they have been able to. Wouldn't they have been able to deduce that anyway?

[Ria]

They would say it's Rob or Natalie or.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Ria]

No. No, they wouldn't.

[Fran]

Because if I'm trying to remember what happened, but they knew that. Not like.

[Ria]

No, they didn't. They didn't know that Natalie had it.

[Noah]

I mean, she could have.

[Ria]

Natalie.

[Fran]

But I'm saying Natalie could have told.

[Ria]

The rest of the group.

[Noah]

Like, I could be lying, too. Like.

[Ria]

Yeah, but everyone could. At the end of the day, if.

[Fran]

The five of them all get together and sit down and. And each the four boys go, I didn't have it. And then Natalie says, I did have it. And then they're like, well, Rob took It. So it's like, they'd figure out Rob.

[Ria]

Yeah, right. But I'm just saying, like, I think he should have. If he was gonna be like, hey, guys, I'm proving, you guys, I'm a faithful. I have the dagger. He could have been like, let's all vote for some. Like, let's all use this going forward as a group, who we want to take out, like, you know, as a double. You know what I'm saying? Like, just to get them to trust him even more. Right.

[Fran]

Which. Which I think he'll do. Yeah, like, I think he'll do going forward, but I think they. They were. Because it wasn't like there was any debate on who people were leaning towards at that point. It was like, no, no, I didn't.

[Ria]

Mean for that one. I just mean going forward. Like, hey, as a group, we should pick somebody that I'm gonna use, you know?

[Fran]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Noah]

I probably have to use it against Candace now, right?

[Ria]

Probably. We'll see. We'll see what happens. I. Yeah. I don't think those two are gonna work together, just from what we've seen Candace say, like, and. Please, she's gonna go after one person at the reunion. I feel like it's Rob.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Ria]

But.

[Noah]

Sorry, I was gonna say, has there ever been a trader season where, like, the traders just are gone? Like. Like mid Se. Like, how does that work? If they just, like, the next two episodes were like, we get Candace, and then they go after Rob because she said Rob, like, or they would.

[Fran]

Sometimes they let them. Sometimes they let them recruit a new trader. No, one or two. Sometimes they give him the option to. To bring in enough to. To pick someone to be a traitor, like, at the last minute.

[Noah]

Yeah.

[Ria]

If they were to do that, I would hope they would. They would pick Johnny because Johnny is so much a faithful that. And he's on to Rob. So I would just pick the person who's totally on to me.

[Fran]

Totally.

[Ria]

I'd be like, all right, well, you know, they'll get. They'll get everybody off my back now, and everybody trusts Johnny as a faithful, so to bring him in. Oh, be so good.

[Fran]

Totally.

[Ria]

All right, that wraps up the Traders recap. Can't wait for the next episode. We have, I think, three episodes left. I think it's 11 episodes. The finale is, I believe, the 26th, so 8, 9, 10, 11. Oh, I think we have four episodes left. Ooh, how exciting. Can't wait to see what happens between these two. I really cannot wait. The GameTime app gives fans the advantage with constant innovation, it's how you unlock amazing tickets and experiences in a few taps. So simple to use. The Game Time guarantee means you get 100% authentic tickets on time at the best price. No surprises. Fees are included in the price. You see. What you see is what you pay, period. Maybe you're eyeing some Hillary Duff tickets. Maybe you're eyeing Harry. Harry Styles tickets. You can look at Game Time for that upcoming event that you have your eyes on. So take the guesswork out of buying tickets to every type of event with Game Time. Download the Game Time app, create an account and use code chicks for $20 off. Your first purchase terms. Apply again, create an account and redeem Code Chicks C H I C k s for $20 off. Download the Gametime app today. All right, let's get into the weekly Watch Report where we talk about the things we watch this week. Weekly Watch Report on Monday. Weekly Watch Report on Monday. Weekly Watch Report on Monday. Weekly Watch Report on Monday. I watched the entirety of this show, Finding Her Edge on Netflix. Now, let me tell you, it took up my entire Saturday morning. I put it on as soon as I woke up and just watched it the entire day. And let me tell you, this show is not good, but it's also amazing. Like, it's. It's a. It's a bad show and it's really bad acting and there's so many plot holes, but I love it. Okay. Like, realistically, it's a C show, but I'm gonna have to give it like a B minus because of how much I enjoyed watching it. But there are, let me tell you, it is endless. It's about young figure skaters. It's a what? You know, it's a YA Netflix series. There's a little love triangles, you know, sisters fighting, a dead mom, obviously with a dad who's just trying to figure it out. Like, it's got all the elements. And let me tell you, some of the acting is just so atrocious. Some of the scenes, it's like one of those shows where like you're like an action walk in the room. Like, it's just every scene starts off with somebody walking into a room and starting the scene. Like, it's. It's just perfect. And I ate this shit up. And I would recommend if you're just looking for something simple and easy to watch that maybe makes your heart flutter at times or you get angry and you get so into it, but it's really just not that good.

[Fran]

At the same time, it's from what you're describing. It's giving me sort of like my life with the Walter boys kind of. Kind of vibes. Like, where you're like, although I like this better. You're locked into the story, but you're like, this is objectively not good. But I'm watching.

[Ria]

Right. And I can't wait for the second season now. Like it is. It ends on a cliffhanger.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Ria]

And I am in. So it's a C show, but my eyes to be minus. So I want that to be clear on the graphic because I don't want people to turn the show on and go B minus. It's not. But if you enjoy this kind of tv, you'll see what I mean. So. Gosh, I wish I could. I wish I could just have it from the beginning and erase my brain. It just, it just hit the spot. I watched. I'm still watching Love Island Australia. I don't even know what episode I'm on. And I will give that B. Love Island All Stars. I watched the first, like four episodes. It is slow for me. Slow to start. I'm not. I'm not super in right away. It's. I'm finding it.

[Fran]

It's so good now.

[Ria]

I'm finding it hard for it to grab my attention right now. But I'm going to continue. I will also give that. No, you know what? I'll give Love Island Australia an A minus. And I will give Love Island All Stars a B send. Help. Rachel McAdams. Dylan O' Brien saw it in theaters, which I'm happy I did because we had missed the beginning part when we went to the screening. I will give it a. I'm torn between an A minus and a B plus.

[Fran]

I think the fact that you, like, want to go see it again happily, like, gives it an A minus.

[Ria]

I'll give it an A minus. I'll give it an A minus. I. I really enjoy the movie. I think it's such an. I think it's an original idea. Yeah. And they are phenomenal in it. And I love just a fun movie. Like, not everything has to be award winning movie. Look into it. Like, oh, with this and my snobby little nose on how this little, like, no, it can just be a fun time.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Ria]

And also be a great movie. And that's what I think this is. Great performances.

[Fran]

It's like a great Rotten Tomatoes score.

[Ria]

And it really captivates you. I think. I think the two of them, like, really, you're never bored throughout this movie. Even though it's just the Two of them, Yeah.

[Noah]

I also didn't really know. I didn't expect, like, the amount of gore that it had, like, going into it. I thought it was going to be more of, like, a comedy, but I.

[Ria]

Thought it was scary.

[Noah]

I mean, I thought it was, like, a good mix of comedy and horror. But I think the comedy, like, for me was, like, the better part of it. Like, the jump scares throughout never really, like, got me. Like, it wasn't. I was never really scared, but I very much enjoyed it. I thought, like, each of them, obviously, they had great chemistry.

[Ria]

I'm glad you enjoyed it because I took you guys and was, like, you know, endorsing the movie and. And when we were leaving, I was like, so, did you guys like it? Because I was nervous that I had brought everyone to a movie that they did not like.

[Fran]

I asked Ria for, like, everybody's full reviews because I was like, why do I feel so defensive about, like, I'm, like, I feel so defensive about this movie. Like, tell me how everyone thought about it, because if. If. If they didn't like it, we'd have a problem.

[Ria]

Like, yeah, I basically said exactly what you said. I was like, Noah said he was Found it really entertaining, but that the horror elements didn't work for him.

[Noah]

Yeah, they. It's number one in the box office, like, after the first opening weekend, which is impressive, but I'm so happy for that. Like, and also it's like, yeah, it is impressive when it's just a movie with really just two people. I know. Like, and it kind of. There's never really much, like, down time, even though you'd think there would be because, like, they're on an island. But I left to go to the bathroom at one point, and I'm like, all right, this. I was actually thinking on my walk to the bathroom, Like, I'm so good at picking times to go to the bathroom. Like, this is a perfect. I'm not gonna miss anything, and I'm. I won't spoil it. But I came back and, like, I missed so much. Like, I. I, like, was like, what?

[Ria]

Like, yeah, I thought that in my head, when you got up to go to the bathroom, I thought, he thinks this is a good part, but this is such a bad part.

[Noah]

And I'm not happened.

[Ria]

And I wasn't gonna, you know, reach over Kelly to be like, tell Noah not now. Like, I wasn't gonna cause a scene.

[Noah]

It was also, like, the same thing when Tommy went. And then I had to tell him when he came back because he he went into something like. Something that, like, you had to see. Otherwise, you'd be very confused on what's going on.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Noah]

But, yeah, they were good.

[Ria]

Yeah, I'll give that an A minus. And I think that's. That's all for me.

[Fran]

I've been really locked into Love Island All Stars. I am caught up. So the last week of episodes on Peacock, I'm caught up on. Honestly, I'm gonna give it an A minus. I've been, like, waiting for the new episodes every night. I know you're watching, so I don't want to spoil it, but I got. I really want to talk about it.

[Ria]

They. I'll catch up. I have. I have time today where I'm gonna catch up on those.

[Fran]

They just brought in a bunch of Americans in a way that they've never done before. We got, like, Casa Amore is Villa usa. Like, they got a bunch of people, which is just very, like. It's breaking my brain seeing these people talk to each other. I'm like, in my mind, you just. You live in different worlds. You were all. All Love Island. But, like, seeing Millie, like, talking to guys from Love island usa, I'm like, this is just crazy. And it's very entertaining. I'm excited to see what happens because I'm like, I don't know why the Love Island UK people. In my mind, I'm like, they're royalty. These are reality stars. And then some of the Love Island USA people, I'm like, he doesn't deserve to talk to Millie, but. But there is. Very entertaining. I'm very excited to see what happens and, like, what connections are made and what happens when everybody comes back together. I. You know, I want to say something about Helena just quickly, and it's not too much of a spoiler, but I didn't really love Helen on her season. I'm feeling for her on this one. I'm just like, she's getting the short end of the stick time and time again, and I'm like, come on, guys. Really, like, whatever. She seems lovely. It's just. I feel like she's getting kind of screwed here. But I've been. I've been loving it. Really, really good. Caught up on Southern Charm. I'm just, like, sad and tired of watching Craig and Austin fight with each other. It's just like it's happened for multiple seasons now. It's either be friends or dopey friends. But they. The way Craig referred to Austin as his enemy. And I thought, that is a crazy thing to say about someone that's whatever level of friend you're at right now. He's like, oh, you're gonna listen to my. To my enemy? I'm like, your enemy? So, I mean, they're just going at it.

[Spencer Pratt]

They're.

[Fran]

They're in a bad place. They're fighting. They try and go to, like, a boys dinner to. To. For everyone to get back on the same page, and they're just not getting back on the same page. And it sucks because it's, like, not super fun to watch, in my opinion. And I think, granted, that comes into play with, like, being friends with both of them and then just being like, oh, guys, like, come on. Like, I need someone to shake them, to be like, get over it. Like. But it's. That's kind of where I'm at because I just feel like there's other storylines and there's other things happening, and it's getting really dominated by. By this friendship fight or whatever, you know, whatever you want to call it. I also think Austin may have gotten a little screwed with the edit for, like, the. The coming, like, on the rest of this. This season of Southern Charm. The way it's cut makes it look like he cheats on Audrey with Sally. That, like, it looks like he kisses Sally and then they break up, which is not what happened, as far as I know.

[Ria]

I'm.

[Fran]

I feel like they broke up before that, but it's. From what I saw, I feel like he had kind of said, oh, this is, like, not right. This is not accurate. Factually accurate here. So see how that all. See how that all plays out. I'll give it. I'll give it a B. I'm still. I'm still enjoying it. I'm still watching it. Everything else to be on it. I don't think I've. I don't think I've really watched anything else.

[Ria]

Half degrade. Traders.

[Fran]

A. Oh, Traders. Duh.

[Ria]

Hey.

[Fran]

I watched that immediately when I got home. Oh, I. Joe and I started ponies. We watched the first two episodes.

[Ria]

Oh, yeah.

[Fran]

I'm really excited to continue watching that. I really liked the first two episodes. I think that Haley Lou Richardson and Amelia Clark are fantastic together. I'll give that a B as well. I'm excited because I think it's just only going to get better. It was like a good. Good couple setup episodes, and I hope I have time to watch that. Just like, been a lot of. A lot of travel and that is. Watch anything on who now. I think that's. I kind of think that's everything I watch. I haven't watched too much. Catching up. Oh, the last part of Salt Lake City Reunion Part three. I'll give a B plus. I think we got some more details of friendships, of relationships. I felt terrible. Like, I was. Felt very sad for Bronwyn of where things went for her and Todd in the show. And it kind of broke my heart to hear Bronwyn talk about, like, Todd not really knowing how the Internet was, like, reacting to him. Or I think he just thought, like, his actions were not weird or unusual or anything. Like he didn't think things were a big deal. And it saw. I think he. Brahman kind of made it seem like he went down a rabbit hole of, you know, searching his name and looking at Reddit and like, doing all these things and that it just, like, really, really hurt him. And that made me sad. But sounds like they probably weren't going to come to an agreement of. Of where they want to go right now with their. With their life. Because I think Brahman really enjoys doing the show and being a part of it, and Todd clearly doesn't feel the same. I think there seems to be a lot more going on with Whitney and Justin than they've been leaving on. Like, Whitney got really emotional, walked off set when they were talking about this too. So just fighting through some. Some relationship stuff.

[Noah]

But.

[Fran]

Yeah, I'll give that. Did I give it a grade? I'll give it A B. Part 3 Reunion Tell Me Lies Episode 5 I remember in my mind I was like, in my mind, I was like, you know when you remember opening a certain app and then you're like, what was I watching? Then I realized I watched it on the plane and had to fast forward through a couple parts.

[Ria]

Yeah. Well, tell me a lot as I watch at the beginning of the week. So for some reason, when Monday comes around, I know I completely forget it and watched it.

[Fran]

I know if you feel like you completely forget about it.

[Ria]

Yeah. But we only had three more episodes after this.

[Fran]

Yeah. Which is crazy because I feel like there's definitely things happening, but I'm waiting to see how it all develops. I have. Let me tell you, I have enjoyed at least this last episode. Feeling like there's less Steven. Like, I'm watching less Steven. I feel like I'm watching more with the other characters. Look, I know obviously it doesn't pan out well, but watching Wrigley and Bree together, I'm like, I like, I'm like.

[Ria]

Really rooting for them.

[Fran]

Wrigley going with Brie to. To be with her Mom. And, like, I was like, oh, my God, the car. Like, they're so sweet. And then he's teaching her how to swim. I'm, like, trying to swim, which just breaks my heart, because, you know, that they don't end up together. It doesn't work for them. She so.

[Ria]

Man.

[Fran]

But I. Watching their origin story, I guess, is. Is really cute. I know they're probably not. Probably shouldn't be rooting for them since they're both cheating on the people they're with, but.

[Noah]

Yeah, the annoying thing is to say he's not actually doing it because he feels bad, but Pippa's been cheating on him for this.

[Ria]

Yeah, no, I know.

[Fran]

I know, exactly.

[Ria]

Papering on him the whole time. So you're like, you know what? Do it. Wrigley on you. And then Evan cheated on her, Lucy. And. And so you're just like, you know what? Breathe. Be with Ricky.

[Fran]

Like, totally. And Evan just, like, treated Molly like shit. Like, everyone was like, yeah, kicked Molly to the curb when Bri came back, so.

[Ria]

Right.

[Fran]

No, they're all treating each other like that is 100% true. I love every time Diana gives it to Stephen, and, like, he tried to be like, I got into Yale Law, blah, blah, blah. And she's like, yeah, I did too, and I'll get in wherever I want because I don't want to be near you. However, whatever he's about to do with those photos is gonna be real bad.

[Ria]

He's such a scumbag.

[Fran]

Such a scumbag. If he sends those to, like, the admission, like, school, like, what's he gonna do? Send them to Stanford Law Admissions? Like, I guess he might. I don't know. It's so crazy to me. Or, like, sending them out so that there's some sort of scandal and then she doesn't get into law school is going to drive me insane. Because Diana, like, is the only one with a. With a soul and deserves. And deserves to go to law school, and she's gonna get. Because of Steven.

[Ria]

So, yeah, he's such a scumbag.

[Noah]

It was satisfying to watch Stephen, like, want to be really happy and celebrate with his friends and realize that he has no friends.

[Ria]

No, he has no one to celebrate with.

[Noah]

Like, anyone wanna. Wanna. I got into Yale.

[Ria]

Like, like, no one gives a.

[Fran]

No one gives a. Cause you're terrible. But I'll give this episode a B plus.

[Ria]

Me too.

[Noah]

Okay. Yeah, I was gonna give it a B plus too. I'm. I'm like. I think I saw people saying it was kind of A boring episode. I thought it was like, I was pretty, like, locked in. So go to B plus.

[Fran]

I think people are just so used to crazy happening every episode that when you have one episode that's like.

[Ria]

It'S.

[Fran]

A good lead in. You need that episode because you're gonna find out what Stephen does with the picture. I think Brie, like the Brie and Wrigley stuff is going to become huge. So it was a good episode. It just wasn't like, crazy explosive. And by the way, the end with Lucy. Poor Lucy's so up. Sorry, I forgot to bring that up. Playing the audio of Stephen and the. You know, it's just so.

[Ria]

You're like, it's so. Yeah, that. That's.

[Fran]

You're in a bad, bad place and need major, major therapy.

[Ria]

That's trauma right there. That is.

[Noah]

What's the guy that she's hooking up with? I forget his name.

[Ria]

Alex. Alex, yeah.

[Noah]

When. When he's like, I, like, I didn't know this was coming from a place of trauma. And she's like, it's not. It's not.

[Ria]

It's like, no, it is like, no, girl, it is.

[Fran]

Oh, it is. Big time.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Noah]

I watched the newest episode of the Beauty. Yeah, I. I very much enjoy the show. I'm really locked in. Like, I think I like everything about this show other than Ashton Kutcher. Like, Ashton Kutcher. Every time I see him, I'm like, there's Ashton Kutcher, but he's not like, playing a character that I kind of like, buy into. I'm like, Ashton. Like, he's just being Ashton Kutcher, but he's supposed to be this kind of like, evil rich guy. I just. I don't know, maybe he'll like, maybe I'll find myself of believing it more as, like, we really haven't seen much of his character. But that's the one part that I like, don't necessarily like, like, so far, but everyone else is great. Evan Peters, like, all the main people. Anthony Ramos, obviously. Like, I'm like, that's like one of my shows. I'm like, more looking forward to each week. So I've got a B plus Traders. I'll give an A. Like, it's just fun when a trader's like, causing chaos. So, like, whether Rob's playing the game right or not, like, I feel like I saw Boston Rob and Bob the Drag Queen kind of like saying they didn't agree with, like, a lot of his moves and like, how he went about it, but it's still just, like, fun to see traders going at each other. The pit given a minus. I feel he's starting to pick up. That's another one where I feel like people are saying, like, it's kind of, like, going a little slow, but I'm. I'm pretty locked in. And I feel like next episode will be, like, a big one, I think.

[Fran]

I feel like that was how season one went, too. Like, the first two episodes of season one weren't crazy, and then crazy happens.

[Noah]

Yeah. We're, like, almost halfway.

[Ria]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Noah]

But, yeah, I think that's just, like, always going to be a great show. I'll give it an A minus. Send help. Yeah. B plus. Already talked about that. I watched Miracle the boys of 80s, which is the new documentary about the miracle.

[Fran]

Miracle. Nice.

[Noah]

Yep. Which one of my favorite movies. And I'll watch anything about that. And this documentary is, like, all you could really ask for. Like, they have everyone who's still alive from the team. They, like, go back to Lake Placid. They're being interviewed. Like, they're going back to the locker rooms and, like, all these stories you didn't ever know. It's great, like, teared up a couple times. And it's also, like, a good way to. With, like, the actual Winter Olympics happening, like, in a week. It's a good way to get into that mood.

[Ria]

Yeah. That's how I felt about finding a rich. The figure skating.

[Noah]

Yeah. It makes you, like. Oh, yeah. I'm excited to watch. Even though, like, I always say I'm gonna watch the Olympics, and then I just. It's just too much. I just never do. It's like, I never know what to do but give that an A. And I watched Frankenstein, which, if you had just said Frankenstein, I, like, had no interest. But then I kind of heard people saying, I mean, obviously it's, like, up for some Oscars. That it was, like, a great movie, But I just was hard to not have, like, the cartoony Frankenstein in my head when I was hearing about this, like, the green, whatever. But I actually liked it, like, a lot more than I expected. Just, like, as a movie as a whole. I don't know if I agree that Jacob already should have been nominated. Like, I. I don't think he, like, necessarily gave, like, an incredible, like, he was good, but, like, I don't think he had to do anything crazy. Like, I don't know.

[Fran]

I don't know. I think that's a pretty crazy, physical, like, role you have to play.

[Ria]

I also want to step in and say that my grandpa texted me because he saw us on the View and he was like, hi, Maria, you made it. You were on the View. Love you. Like, he was so excited. And then he said, just saw Frankenstein with that guy Jacob. He was terrific. Picture was great. Watched it twice. And then I said, oh, really? I've heard great things. I haven't watched yet, but I'll have to. And he said, I'm going to watch it again. Lol.

[Noah]

Three times.

[Ria]

He is gonna watch Frankenstein for a third time. That's how terrific Jacob was in his eyes.

[Noah]

I mean, I thought, like, just personal opinion, like, I thought Oscar Isaac was like a better. I was more like, drawn to. To him in the movie, but great movie.

[Fran]

Like, yeah, yeah, it is Gamma del Toro. You know, it's not like it was some. Yeah, it's Fluke. It's a very well done. Interesting take on the. On the movie.

[Noah]

Yeah. So whatever the character, you know, a B plus and. Oh, yeah, we never even, like, said that. But that was funny that we were on the View.

[Ria]

We were on the View because we were talking about Jacob Elordi and Margot Robbie and their press tour for Wuthering Heights. And they pulled the clip from our podcast where we were discussing, you know, how. How actors, when they have husbands or wives, act together. And it was so funny because Whoopi was like, and we have a clip from this podcast.

[Noah]

And then after they played the clip, which ended with me, like, saying, like, you have a husband. And like, most of the View people were like, laughing, but Whoopi was there, like, look, looking, like, miserable, like, no, well, the clip was that.

[Ria]

No, the clip ended with Fran being like, I don't blame her.

[Noah]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Fran]

Take my moment, Noah.

[Ria]

And all the ladies were. No, all the ladies were laughing at that. Yeah, that's what they were laughing at.

[Fran]

Except for Whoopi.

[Ria]

You did not think that was funny.

[Noah]

But people are like, does she not realize, like, she's doing the same thing?

[Ria]

Like, Well, I think that's what it is. Very old school mentality where, like, the. Like, we went through this whole discussion with talk shows and podcasts. It's like you're. You're basically doing ones on tv, one's on the Internet, you know? Yeah.

[Fran]

And also Whoopi is like, probably in the mindset of, like, I'm an actor and these people are. These people are acting. You know, they're doing their job. What are these little, little girls on this couch know about. About the art of acting?

[Noah]

Yeah, it's Also funny that it was when we were in our hotel. It wasn't even like, in our studio.

[Fran]

We're not even in a studio.

[Ria]

We're just in a random hotel. Yeah. But I was happy to see us on there.

[Fran]

You know, someone. Someone in the production room of the View is watching Chicks the office.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Fran]

And they love Noah. Noah's got. Noah makes a big statement.

[Ria]

Every time my mom said that, she.

[Noah]

Was like, on the phone, by the way. Like, just. I think this one I. I saw people messaging about. Like, obviously the first one, if she hadn't been watching, I don't think any of us would have ever known about that.

[Fran]

But it got DM to us a couple times. The Kate Hudson, all of them. Like, I'm just saying people went like.

[Ria]

By the way, my grandpa watches. So he would have filled us.

[Noah]

No, I know. I'm not saying the first time they didn't like, say, chasing off. So if you didn't know that Kate Hudson was like, referring to something that happened on our show. But. But she was like, watching. She was on the phone and she said she, like, looked up at the TV and. And she was like, saw you guys and was like, thought that she, like, switched the channel or something. Like, was so confused. But that was like. I woke up again and I'm like, what? I thought Rachel McAdams like, went on the View and.

[Ria]

Oh, that's so funny.

[Noah]

The last thing I watched was I watched the Rose Burn. If I had legs, I'd. Which I wasn't looking forward to watching ever. Like, that's why I've been putting it off for so long, because I knew it was going to be like this anxiety inducing movie just by the trailer and by like, the reviews and everything. And it was actually worse in that aspect than I could have even imagined. Like, damn, the way that they shot this movie, like, alone, like, all things, like, to the side other than like, that gives you anxiety. Like, I don't know how to explain it without watching it, but, like, she has a kid throughout the whole movie that's like, has lines and is talking. You never see the kid. It's just like a closeup of Roseburn's face. Like, and I know what they're trying to do and I think it worked of, like, this is kind of how she feels where, like, she's trapped in blah. Like, and she has no contact with the outside world or whatever it is. But, like, it's. It's not like an enjoyable watch whatsoever. Asap. Rockies in it. Like, he's. He's good in it. But I, like, didn't enjoy my time watching this. I. I'll say, like, she was, she gave a great performance and I think, like, definitely worthy of the Oscar nomination, but not something I'll ever be re watching. And like, I was just kind of wanting it to end throughout the whole time. So I'll give it a B minus.

[Ria]

So higher grade than I was expecting you to get.

[Noah]

I don't want to give it a bad grade because it gave me anxiety because that would kind of be like someone watching Marty supreme or Uncut Gems and being like, oh, like, I hated that when it's like, it's a good movie for what.

[Fran]

And I think that's like the, that's.

[Noah]

Like, that's the point.

[Fran]

Like, the movie is trying to give you anxiety. So it's like, in that case, they're doing their job.

[Noah]

Conan o' Brien is in it. He plays like her therapist. He's. He's funny and good in it. But. But yeah, it was just, it's like, like, Marty supreme is like a fun anxiety. This is just like a bad anxiety.

[Ria]

Again, an impending doom.

[Noah]

Yeah. Yeah. Especially like, if I might have, like, smoked a little beforehand. And it was just like, not, not the. That was not the move.

[Ria]

That was not the move for this movie.

[Noah]

So, yeah, that's all I got.

[Ria]

All right, well, that is everything we watched this week.

[Fran]

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[Ria]

All right, everyone. We are here with a special guest. We are joined by Spencer Pratt. We're here to talk about his new memoir. We got Spencer Pratt, the guy you love to hate, Confessions From a Reality TV Villain. And now we were just talking before you got in here. We're Shocked by. This is. This is the first time you wrote a book.

[Fran]

We just like, kind of thought you'd have like five or six books out.

[Ria]

By now, you know.

[Spencer Pratt]

You know, it's harder to get a book than people realize.

[Ria]

It's.

[Spencer Pratt]

Thanks, Shout Out Simon and Schuster Gallery. It's a very, yeah. Magical thing to have.

[Fran]

Why was this the right time for you to write?

[Spencer Pratt]

I mean, I would have loved to have written this book in high school. You know what I mean? You know, that time is God's timing, obviously, but I think there was a, like a closure to my. My journey. You know, obviously I'm not that old and I would like to have a new chapter or a new book of life, but for that, you know, having everything just burn down and start at zero after the whole book is my hustle and trying to build up what I thought was fame and riches that then becomes just a home with your family and hummingbird birds and crystals, and then that's gone. So I think it just had. At least I would imagine that was the publisher's perspective, that there was an end to the story.

[Fran]

No pun intended. But are you closing the chapter on being reality known as reality TV villain?

[Spencer Pratt]

Well, my goal right now, that's why I'm blessed to be on the first Chicks in the Office podcast, is to have a number one New York Times bestselling book. So that way I don't, you know, when like Gavin Newsom or Karen Bass call me a washed up reality star, I can say that's number one bestselling author, washed up reality star.

[Ria]

There's an asterisk there.

[Spencer Pratt]

I would like to add some cachet to my, my brand here.

[Fran]

Put that on best.

[Spencer Pratt]

But no, I will do any reality TV show, definitely.

[Ria]

Yeah, you know, I, I guess it feels sort of repetitive, but, I mean, you talk about it in your book, just how much you've been referred to as like, the most hated person on TV at one point. I mean, certainly when we were watching, but I think getting that behind the scenes of really how much you leaned into it really opens our eyes just a little bit more. Right? Because when we were watching the Hills when it was on tv, it was like, oh, my God, this asshole, you.

[Spencer Pratt]

Know, as Gayle King referred to me for the first time, I. I thought I'd been called everything, but yesterday on cbs, she called me douche canoe. And so, you know, I guess.

[Fran]

My God.

[Ria]

Out loud?

[Spencer Pratt]

Yeah, out loud. On.

[Fran]

I just can't imagine those words coming out of Gayle King's mouth.

[Ria]

I know I had the same reaction.

[Spencer Pratt]

I'm like, she said those words in.

[Fran]

Her defense that on the back of the book.

[Noah]

Yes.

[Spencer Pratt]

You know, when they do the updated. Whatever that's called. Endorsements.

[Ria]

Exactly. Quotes from people.

[Spencer Pratt]

Yeah. I think. Thank God I was so. It was so planned that even when I lost the plot deep into the journey, I could always go back to like, no, you did this on purpose. Like, you. So again, you know, when you're Dr. Frankenstein and Frankenstein and then you're, like, making Dr. Jekyll Hyde, and then you're just deep in the play, pretend, you know now it's like, so cool if you're a method Timmy Chalamet, you know, he's always such a good ping pong player. Like, I was Timmy Chalamet of being, like, the bad boyfriend.

[Ria]

Right.

[Spencer Pratt]

You know, so it was very strategic, and there was so much money behind it. I would do it again. If anything, I would have gone harder, you know?

[Fran]

Yeah, harder.

[Spencer Pratt]

Oh, my. Absolutely. I mean, I, like, I phoned it in, you know, it got to that. It was just.

[Ria]

I don't know if you phoned it in.

[Spencer Pratt]

Oh, I Now looking back. Now looking back, knowing just. I would have just been so much scared.

[Fran]

Well, it's interesting reading about, like, more of your childhood in earlier years, because now reading that and hearing that, you're like, okay, yeah, maybe, because I know you tell a story in the book where you kind of, like, blackmailed your dad again. And you held that over his head for a while. Like, you filmed him without his.

[Spencer Pratt]

It was an audio. Audio recording.

[Fran]

Audio recording, recording. And like, you're like, look, Dad, I got this tape of you, you know, freaking out.

[Spencer Pratt]

I technically. Was legal because he left the voicemail, so it wasn't. It would have been illegal if I was recording the phone, but he left it on a device. In the old days before you guys were born, we had machines next to our phones that the.

[Fran]

Don't worry, we had. We had voicemails. No, I had to leave a message for my friends.

[Ria]

My parents still have a lamb.

[Spencer Pratt]

I was checking. I don't know what demo we're in myself, but I would go.

[Fran]

The rotary phone. No, but I just thought it was funny, like, hearing those. And do you think at the time it seemed like you wrote, oh, your dad was maybe, like, a little angry, but then it kind of turned to respect.

[Spencer Pratt]

Yeah. I think he was like, dang, I got to pay this kid, you know? So, yeah, I think I've always. People that have known me since preschool, I want to say I'M very similar. Like, my spirit, my soul, it came to earth and it. I've been the same brand for a long time.

[Ria]

So I want to go through the thought process and sort of the mental behind, like, all right, I'm going to be this bad boyfriend. Like, I'm going to lean into this. And you say you phoned it in and you're like, it was easy. But like, seriously, what, like, what were you thinking to yourself as this starts going? Cause you said, you know, you've kind of been the same person, but how do you separate the two? Because you can get lost in it.

[Spencer Pratt]

Yeah, I think as you'll, you know, obviously, God willing, ever listening you're reading the book or listening to the audiobook is. You'll see. It's. I started in reality TV by creating an executive producing my own network show on Fox. And that was completely. We made up. Everything was so fake. The idea of anything being real. By the time I got to the Hills, I didn't know you could be in front of a camera and not come up with a plan and make a scene. And, like, what's the payoff and what's our drama? So I think also the key was one of the Hill's executive producers was Brody. And our employee on Princeton Malibu, he was our showrunner. So I had already spent six months doing make believe with this guy all day long. So by the time I get to the Hills and he's the executive producer there, I'm like, oh, I got this. And what they don't show on the Hills is one of my favorite parts about Heidi when I met her is Heidi was the biggest player I'd ever met. When I. For real, when I met her, she was writing a book, how to Play the Player. So we were like, yeah, like a true chess match of a relationship that never. By the time we got to the Hills, because we started dating pre, like in between seasons, so we were doing all these antics, young love type of things. So by the time the Hills started filming, she'd already changed her phone number on me. And so I was like, oh, okay, we're playing. We're going to this tier. So, you know, it's just to the point where if I gave Heidi roses and I still out in my car, I thought it was such a good idea. Use those same roses, give him a gandadrina. Because I just saw how good of TV that would be. And then you're also working with the producers. Like the famous get out of my car scene. I didn't come up with that. That's just. They're like, you're mad she won't move in with you. She's already living with me. That's how fake all this stuff is. So. And then you do it for two hours. You're sitting in the car doing the same stuff. So then you start really getting annoyed, and your energy's like, okay, I wanna get out of here. And so it looks like that's going on. But she got back in the car and we went out to dinner. So, you know, it was just pretty easy.

[Ria]

Yeah, I mean, I remember exactly where I was when it was revealed that, like, everything was fake. You know, they pull up the green screen, and Kristen and Brody, like, they drive away, but then they come back together, they hug, and I was floored. You know, my young self was like, what the hell? I've been lied to. Now, knowing what you know about how fake reality TV can be, is watching reality shows different for you because you could spot when something's fake, what's real? Do you think it's all fake? Like, where do you lie now, watching these shows?

[Spencer Pratt]

You know, So I just did a show that was. It ended up not being a huge hit, but it was a lot of fun. It was on Hulu called Got to Get Out. And the thing about. Even when people are. I like the term image crafting. And, you know, pretty much you're curating your own. You think it's IG story, but you're trying to do it in front of the camera for a reality show, even when you're doing that, when you're locked in a house for, like, two or three weeks and you have other people. Image crafting. And so even if you're being fake, like, real, like, if you're a bad person, real stuff comes out. Like on that show, I don't know what I'm legally allowed to say, but two people really cracked, and one ends up, like, breaking out of the house, hitchhiking to, like, a liquor store. A lot of details. They don't show on the show, but she was very locked in until she wasn't. So I always think, even if you're fake, these shows can break you down, even if you have a game plan. Whereas it didn't for me because it was like, vacation, you know, having two kids, it was like not having to do any dads. I was like, ha, this is a spa. But no, I don't watch. I don't have any time to watch Relations. I love them. And there's real people on reality Shows that are authentic. But the problem with most shows now, which I don't judge and good luck, is everyone wants to just get more followers or get brand deals or they think they're going to be Alex Earl if they pop off on a dating show. So there's. Which, again, I think those people are entertaining, too. So I like fame, horror, energy.

[Ria]

I think it would probably be. Although there was a lot of tabloids when you guys were on the Hills, there wasn't constant video evidence of everybody doing everything. So you talking about you and Heidi getting into that fight, but then going to get dinner after. It was easier to go and get dinner after because there wasn't everyone. There was paparazzi, but not every single move. Now it's a little.

[Fran]

Right. You'd be like. You'd be spotted immediately. They take your picture at the restaurant.

[Ria]

And be all over Heidi and Spencer out to dinner. What do you mean? They just got to this fight.

[Spencer Pratt]

And you bring into a bigger thing that people are like, how did you do that? You didn't care about getting hated. There was no IG Live TikTok live comment sections. IG.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Spencer Pratt]

No Snapchat, no TikTok. So I didn't feel any of that hate. Even if people hated me, if I went out and they were just like, oh, he's the worst person ever. They're like, can I get a photo? And I knew they hated me. I was like, you know, I knew that photo was getting. You know, look at this piece.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Spencer Pratt]

You know, it's like, I didn't care. I love taking photos.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Fran]

But you don't have to, like, take it home with you. It wasn't like you were scrolling in.

[Spencer Pratt]

Bed being like, that's the thing. I don't know, like, when I say, oh, I would go harder. That's in that era, the blowback on comment sections now. And you know, I love positive comments. So I would much rather be the Brody of the Hills based off of, you know, now I have positive things. I'm like, oh, thank you. You know, I. I like that. I like nice people.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Spencer Pratt]

So I. I have to. I don't want to be blocking and muting people. So that's a huge. Forget. Even keeping the storyline locked in. That's how I was able to.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Fran]

You know, you wrote a little bit about. Of Adam Devello in the.

[Spencer Pratt]

In the book Devil.

[Fran]

Oh, Devil. Yes. And I will say, I think because watching the Hills and then having that big reveal and then anything I've ever seen him do after I'm like, well, it's all fake. Like, it's just all. Which is crazy because he still does all these massive, massive shows.

[Spencer Pratt]

He. He got when the Hills rebooted this week. He hadn't done anything in 17 years. And then the Hills got rebooted. And so now his name has some clout. And so. Yes.

[Ria]

Does he do that?

[Fran]

Doesn't he do this Selling Sunset?

[Spencer Pratt]

So he doesn't have. Let's be clear, he has one. Very good for him. I'm very excited that, you know, good luck in hell with those riches. So.

[Fran]

But I watched Selling Sunset in the lens and I'm like.

[Spencer Pratt]

Read about what that lady, the queen quit the show had to say about him.

[Noah]

Yeah.

[Fran]

Chris.

[Spencer Pratt]

No, no, no.

[Ria]

Oh.

[Fran]

Oh, Chris. Christine.

[Spencer Pratt]

So check out what she. So it's not just like a Spencer. Go see her experience with him and, you know, again, there's no jealousy. I don't want a franchise.

[Fran]

Would you have rebooted with him again or would you have wanted to do it with someone else?

[Spencer Pratt]

Thankfully, I mean, I would have.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Spencer Pratt]

Yes. But they brought in this guy, Alex Baskin, who had created Vanderpump. He did Houses of Beverly Hills, Housewives of Orange county, now the new shah's reboot. So I. It was like bringing in like a Kobe Bryant go of reality tv. So I was way more pumped. But, yeah, I would.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Spencer Pratt]

One thing I learned about, and you'll see in the book, is burning bridges and relationships. And now, you know, I would. I could work with my enemy. Like, let's get some money.

[Fran]

Yep.

[Ria]

Where do you think the reboot went wrong? Because I know that we have.

[Spencer Pratt]

How long is this podcast?

[Fran]

I know that's a whole.

[Ria]

I honestly knew when I asked that question, the reaction would be sort of like that. But I think maybe just from our point of view, it was like, maybe casting maybe. You know, there was just a lot of factors of bringing it back.

[Spencer Pratt]

You'll read in my book. I've made some big mistakes in my life, and one of the biggest mistake of my entire life is I got called to meet with the heads of MTV in 2017, I think, and I want to give you your own show. And some epiphany from the depths of stupid hit me. And I was like, let's reboot the Hills. They're like, no, no, we're loving what you're doing on Snapchat with the family and your world and the crystals. I'm like, no, no, no, we should reboot the Hills because the Jersey Shore just came back and I Was, you know, in my moronic thought, I was like, oh, you know, bring more clout. You know, team up. Maybe they'll be thirsty again because nobody's had any checks and fame. And that was. That's where we start on the journey of what went wrong. It shouldn't have even been rebooted. And then they bring in, with respect, Misha Barton, who was a scripted person, which is the weirdest concept that we're going to take. So I get if we're rebooting Laguna Beach. Laguna beach was based off of the Orange county show that she was on. So I kind of get like, that's the weirdest connection ever, but let's put her on.

[Fran]

Right.

[Spencer Pratt]

But it had nothing to do with the hill. So bring in Misha Barton. And we're not getting the Misha Barton that was just like, on TMZ in that backyard, you know, jumping off that balcony, you know.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Spencer Pratt]

Clip. Which I was like, oh, I thought, maybe we're getting this. And that's why we did not get that version. And the one we did get, like, I went to dinner with her the first night filming, you know, hiding our. Drinking our New Zealand white wine, having a good time, and she's like, oh, no, no, no. And the second the cameras go down, I swear to God on a Bible, she takes a full glass and just go poof. It makes it, like, disappear, like a magic trick. I was like, why? Like, please do that on the show. This Misha bar looks fun, you know?

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Spencer Pratt]

So. And it's back to what happened with the whole cast, and it's back to the word that's. It's image crafting.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Spencer Pratt]

Now this cast is in the comments section. So the only way you can have a successful reality TV show is if you don't change your personality based off of, like, what Joe Schmo says to you and Timbuktu or whatever. And like, oh, I can't believe you did that or wore that. And then you change who you are. And these people were doing that. And then we also got cursed with the pandemic. So we're show, you know, where everyone's getting 10 tests a day, we're wearing masks, taking them off to be like, hey, you know, put the mask back on. We're shutting down. So many things went wrong, but it should have never happened. And, you know, obviously, I'm so glad it did. And I needed every one of those dollars, and I'm grateful for them, but I would have been better off for, like, my career life to Having, even if it was just one season of my own show, even if it was canceled, but like how that brand building of my journey and not just back into this dumb. And then the storyline was like, oh, Heidi and Switzer are partying too hard. When this is our only time. We have a nanny Heidi, like where we're going out. Also everyone thinks we're all dying of COVID So it's end of the world energy still. Like everyone I like stocked up on liquor cause I thought it was a rap. So yes, we were partying and then we have like Ashley, this rando. Like oh my God, I think they have a drinking problem. Like no, you have a non drinking problem. Cause this show should be partying.

[Ria]

I do remember now it's all coming back to me how this played out.

[Spencer Pratt]

Triggering.

[Ria]

Yeah, no, I could tell.

[Fran]

And it's all coming back to us.

[Ria]

And I mean you're absolutely correct. Like you need people on a reality show who really, really don't give a fuck about how they're perceived. I think like Brooks Nader right now is one of those people that like really does not care what people. She's just out there. Her name is out there. She's with everyone.

[Fran]

It's just like you'll actually film yourself. There's so many people that do. What you're stuffing is they change when they, they are so excited to sign up for reality tv and then they change themselves when the cameras are right.

[Ria]

Like Misha Barton. You're right. Scripted television always would never fit reality tv. So yeah, I don't want you to say that. It was like the worst move ever because we were all very excited.

[Spencer Pratt]

It made sense. Like we Jersey Shore is still on. I'm not wrong. Like we should have been the New Jersey shore. And these people off camera, Adrina is entertaining off camera, Justin Bobby is entertain. When the cameras turn off, these people are up till sunrise in the like random. Like we're in Tahoe. It's all boring shooting cameras. So they're all watching the sunrise in random casinos on the sides of like doing indie film level content.

[Ria]

They don't want to get the edit that you and Heidi get where it looks like you guys are out there, you know, partying.

[Spencer Pratt]

I don't think they want to look like anything but like a movie star.

[Ria]

Yeah, right.

[Fran]

Yeah. And it's changed so much now too because I feel like they, you know, the reality TV that we're all nostalgic for, they actually found people that really knew each other and were like had some sort of real life connection. Now I think they just throw people on a show and they're like, now act like you guys are all best friends and you're like, I don't know this person really at all.

[Spencer Pratt]

And then the other hard part about having any reality TV show is we watch people, whether it's real or fake, all day long on our feeds.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Spencer Pratt]

So it's very challenging to get somebody who can't even watch a full TikTok of somebody's get ready with me to then, like, watch them get ready on a TV show to go out to, like, a date.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Spencer Pratt]

So our. We've been like, deprogrammed of, like, our attention span of what is, you know, I mean, obviously I'll stick into an Alex Earl, get ready to me and see if, you know, she says anything about Tom Brady, you know, you know, stakes and some get ready with me, but average one, you know, I don't care what palette you're using, I'm out.

[Fran]

No, that is very true. But I mean, you also obviously have a lot about your relationship in the book, and you and Heidi are really a testament to reality TV success because so many people came for you guys at the time. But look at all the reality TV couples that tried and failed. It's endless. And you guys are still going strong. What do you think it's been for you to kind of have that duality of like. No, we are a very still legit, safe and compatible couple.

[Spencer Pratt]

Yeah. For us, it was always such a strong relationship that anything that was portrayed didn't ever happen. So if all that happened, I would be like, yes, we survived. We made it. It's this way. But, you know, when we did a fake fight, we're leaving and going to Blockbuster and getting popcorn and Red Vines and mixing them together, you know, so our lives in our relationship were so grounded in just normal, everyday type, just good relationships. So it's not like this. How did it happen? Also, I was never planning on being in a relationship or getting married or anything. So one thing I will tell people when they like, oh, how do you make this work? Make sure you find somebody that you actually are in love with that you want to be with. Because if I didn't love Heidi and she wasn't like an angel, I wouldn't be married. I wouldn't have kids. So I never had to, like, force it. Like, it just. It's meant to be, you know, so when people are like, oh, what are the trick? I have no relationship guide advice because I'm not Sure. You can make a relationship that's not supposed to be.

[Noah]

Be.

[Spencer Pratt]

And, you know, that's why there's a lot of divorce and breakups and a lot of these couples that were. Compared to that don't make it hard. They maybe weren't supposed to be together or that was just their time together and.

[Ria]

Right.

[Spencer Pratt]

And they learned whatever they were going to learn from life, from that relationship. But, you know, also, Heidi's what people, again, don't know because we've always been so manipulated and part of. She's like the sweetest angel on earth. So it's very easy to have a successful marriage with somebody who is like a little fairy, you know, so she was like some bitch.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Spencer Pratt]

Yeah. You know, so that is. Yeah. Thankfully that there's not two Spencers in the relationship. Like, she's. You know, all I do is complain and whine and, like, you know, I'm. I'm horrible. She's great.

[Fran]

What's. What's going on with Heidi's music right now?

[Spencer Pratt]

We have a we. Because I'm so.

[Fran]

Yeah. I kind of think of it as a we.

[Spencer Pratt]

It's like when we're pregnant, we're pregnant, we're due. She has a new album coming out probably in like, six weeks, maybe sooner. The 18 new. You know, her last album, Heidi Wood, had all the top people that are popping. And then since that one has so much juice, we were able to even tap into even another tier of popping people.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Spencer Pratt]

Unless you're Tate McCray or.

[Ria]

Right.

[Spencer Pratt]

You know, literally, you're not getting these songs. So amazing. So, yeah. It's so exciting. That's, you know, again, having your house burned down is horrible. And then you focus on the, like, well, Blue Heidi's music up. So many people found it all over the world and so they're still streaming it and still has every month, at least 2 million monthly listeners without new algorithm music.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Spencer Pratt]

So it's incredible. I hope we get to do, like, she had a lot of performances. I hope this year. Dear Pride. You know, as mayor of la, of course, I will require Pride to be Heidi, the host of all Pride events. So people are just. That's one of my main policies.

[Fran]

We only have. We only have a couple more minutes with you, so I don't know if we can dive in as much as we would like about, you know, what future plans you have coming up. But you did, like you said, and I will be more fresh about it. You did say you're going to run for the mayor of Los Angeles. You are running for the mayor. It's happening. It's, it's. You filed the whole thing. What's your, you know, is it like your 2 minute elevator pitch? Like, of like what?

[Spencer Pratt]

You know, thankfully. L. A, so horrible. I don't need a pitch. You know, anybody that is in LA knows exactly why I'm running. Because the person that's currently the mayor that's running again has destroyed the city where you can't walk anywhere without stepping in either human poop or a fentanyl needle. You can't go to the park, city's broke. I mean, so anybody that is in LA and they're like, why is he running? Like, oh my God, because anything's better, you know, so even people who wouldn't want to vote for me are like, that's what we're going for. Spencer, you know, have you had a lot of people? I have friends that are like real ones that would be the first ones that call me up and be like, you know, you're crazy to. And they'll hit me up and be like, you gotta win this, bro. You gotta win this, yo. That's the real litmus test. Like OG friends that. But no, it's.

[Fran]

This came from kind of digging into this.

[Ria]

Oh yeah.

[Spencer Pratt]

Once I found out, you know, they let 12 people burn alive, 7,000 structures burned to the ground. And then in the last year, the amount of COVID ups, legit, like not conspiracy, paid off. Cover up the shadiest stuff. So people who argue like, oh, he only cares about Palisades. Actually, Palisades is part of Los Angeles. There's no mayor of Palisades. I care because first off, I don't have a house in palaces. I'm, you know, I would like my kids to be able to grow up where I grew up. And as you read in my book, LA was everything to me. It's what made me want to be famous. It's made me want to. My whole life is about the LA dream that's now gone. If you ask anybody, you know, transplants will be on TikTok. Be like, LA's back. I'm like, you don't even know what you, you know, like, you know, you need a time machine if you think that. So I was hoping somebody else would step up. I don't want to be the mayor of la. I want to go back to my house and be hummingbird and make Snapchats and dance to Taylor Swift. But they burned that life down. And so I don't have a choice because no one stepped up and we were going to be stuck with this Karen Bass, Karen Basura for four more years. And what she's able to do in four years just now, and she's the same plan. There's no like, hey, I'm the worst mayor. I'm going to change. It's let me lean into all these policies and everything. So, I mean, I truly is crazy. I believe I'm going to win. And I think God burned my town down in my house because he's like, if you read my book, if there's anybody designed to go against the system. And that's the other thing. I'm not a political person. I'm not connected to one political party. Like, I'm a common sense. You know, we pay all this taxes we should be able to not live in. Realistically, there's third world countries that look better than LA and no shade to third world countries, but for how many billions of they're laundering. And that's what other thing I learned from the fire scam, the fire aid concert. I learned how they take $100 million and then none of the victims get it and they put it to all these rich people and their NGOs and they pay themselves bonuses and they put it in their little friend. You know, they did that with $30 billion for homelessness and they've increased more homeless. So people are like, oh, what's your experience? My experience is going to go do the exact opposite of what they are doing that's destroyed the city. So you give me $24 billion, I'm gonna clean up the streets. You're not going to be smoking Fentanyl. You know, I'm in no hurry. I'm in no hurry. I got all day. I got traffic last 20 minutes with the, the first office.

[Fran]

I feel like I opened a can of worms.

[Ria]

We can tell the passion that you have for la. And I think you could see it in your book as well and here right now.

[Spencer Pratt]

So, yeah. So again, I don't want to do this. I have to.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Spencer Pratt]

And once I am mayor, I think I'm going to end up being mayor for like eight years because I'm be the best mayor ever. And then I'm stuck. And then they're going to make me be the governor because I'm going to be like, oh, you saved la. Can you please do this to the whole state of California, Arnold Sportsman. And now I have no. He also failed too. So I'm not going to be a failure. And then I'll be governor for Eight years. But I think I'll stop it there and just stay in California. Let's not even do the whole president thing. I don't want any of those.

[Fran]

Well, look, that would be a much longer book than.

[Spencer Pratt]

Yeah, well, that's gonna be Spencer, the guy you love, right?

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Ria]

That's the next book.

[Fran]

There you go. Well, guys, the book is available now. Please buy.

[Ria]

Buy it.

[Fran]

Listen to it. The guy you loved to hate. I do like that you made loved past tense.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Spencer Pratt]

You know what's interesting? I don't know. Some smart person told me this 20 years ago, and I really locked into it. I don't know who they were that could have been a bartender. And he said, love and hate are on the same pole. And if you can get people to hate you, it's actually harder to get somebody to hate you than to love you. Because hate takes more energy than love. So I've always looked at in my redemption arc in my head, I was like, well, if I can give people hate me so much one day, it shouldn't be that hard to make, like, easier to just love. So that's been a goal ever since. You know, being hated is not fun. Let's be clear. And I mean, if you read this book, anybody, it's like, oh, I'm gonna go be hated. Social media version. Don't do it. It's not the ticket, but yes. Thank you for having me.

[Fran]

Thank you so much.

[Ria]

Thank you so much for coming. You're showing off the book.

[Fran]

Yes.

[Ria]

Go buy it. All right, that wraps up today's episode of Chicks in the office. Thank you so much for watching and listening. Just a reminder, we have tickets on sale for our upcoming shows, and we want to see you there. We'll post it again online for you guys to see, but we also have the link in the description and on our social. So we hope to see you there. We love you so very much. We'll talk to you on Wednesday.

[Noah]

Yeah, chicks in the office.

[Spencer Pratt]

Longtime listener, first time caller.

[Noah]

Look at the charts who does it the best two chicks getting paid in reality checks.

[Fran]

You can find them at the gym it's not even a flex Last minute.

[Noah]

Red carpet flew them out on a jet. Yeah, they're who you want to be they're always on your screen. Two queens and they might be spilling royalty.

[Ria]

A lot of topics that are popping.

[Spencer Pratt]

Here to get into.

[Noah]

I know a show that you probably want to listen to. Turn the heat up, turn the beat.

[Ria]

Up record the pod made a bag.

[Fran]

Put their feet up the ones that leave no crumbs when they clean up who's the pod that they all want to meet up?

[Noah]

Who turn the heat up, turn the.

[Fran]

Beat up record the pod made a.

[Ria]

Bag put their feet up the ones.

[Noah]

That leave no crumbs when they clean.

[Fran]

Up who's the pod that they all.

[Spencer Pratt]

Want to meet up?

[Ria]

Sam?