Best/Worst Grammys Moments + Noah Centineo Interview

Summary

Podcast Summary: Chicks in the Office – "Best/Worst Grammys Moments + Noah Centineo Interview"

Release Date: February 3, 2025

Host/Authors: Riaann and Fran from Barstool Sports' "Chicks in the Office"

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Episode Overview

In this vibrant episode of "Chicks in the Office," hosts Riaann and Fran delve into the highs and lows of the recent Grammy Awards, offering their candid opinions on standout moments and performances. Following their Grammy discussion, they transition into their "Weekly Watch Report," where they dissect the latest happenings in the world of television. The episode culminates with an engaging interview featuring actor Noah Centineo, providing listeners with insights into his evolving career and upcoming projects.

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Best/Worst Grammys Moments

General Reception and Show Length

Riaann and Fran kick off their Grammys recap by expressing their overall positive sentiment towards the event. They note the show's extended duration, initially believing it to be three hours before realizing it spanned a full four hours.

Riaann [00:43]: "It was almost four. Holy."

They commend the show's length, suggesting it could have easily continued beyond the allotted time due to the abundance of performances and discussions.

Notable Performances and Awards

The hosts highlight several key performances and award winners, emphasizing both their favorites and controversial moments.

• Dochi Wins Best Rap Album:

  Fran praises Dochi's achievement, mentioning her album "Alligator Bites Never Heal" and noting her growing popularity, especially on platforms like TikTok.

  Fran [32:29]: "Only the third woman to win that award. Lauryn Hill, Cardi B, and Dochi. Kind of crazy."

• Sabrina Carpenter Takes Home Best Pop Vocal Album:

  Riaann applauds Sabrina Carpenter's win for her album "Short and Sweet," acknowledging its critical acclaim and streaming success.

  Riaann [34:33]: "She's so cute, and this album was really great."

• Controversial Best Country Album to Beyoncé:

  A heated discussion ensues over Beyoncé winning Best Country Album for "Cowboy Carter." The hosts explore mixed reactions from fans and speculate on the reasons behind the decision.

  Fran [35:47]: "It's tough because I just really love that album so much."

• Best New Artist to Chapel Roan:

  The hosts celebrate Chapel Roan's win, commending her powerful speech that resonated with industry professionals and fellow artists alike.

  Riaann [41:04]: "It was a powerful moment. Very happy for Chapel."

• Album of the Year to Beyoncé:

  The finale of the awards sees Beyoncé clinching Album of the Year, which sparks further debate among the hosts regarding its reception and impact.

  Riaann [50:17]: "Beyoncé wins Album of the Year. It’s a polarizing album, but I think it was really well deserved."

Controversial Moments

One of the most talked-about moments was Kanye West and Bianca's shocking red carpet appearance, where Bianca appeared nearly naked. Riaann and Fran voiced their discomfort and disapproval, discussing the implications and potential repercussions.

Riaann [20:10]: "She was just naked... It's disgusting."

Additionally, Trevor Noah's hosting was critiqued for its perceived lack of engagement and overused jokes compared to his previous performances at events like the Golden Globes.

Fran [30:05]: "After getting so refreshed by Nikki Glazer at the Golden Globes, Trevor Noah’s same old jokes felt outdated."

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Weekly Watch Report

Transitioning from the Grammys, Riaann and Fran provide their insights on the latest television releases and ongoing series.

• Southern Hospitality:

  Both hosts express enthusiasm for "Southern Hospitality," with Fran highlighting the depth of Sally's storyline and connections to "Southern Charm."

  Fran [69:16]: "In season two, there's so much Sally lore... It's connected."

• Southern Charm:

  While Fran rates "Southern Charm" with a C-, citing its repetitive nature and reliance on known media drama, Riaann opts for a slightly better rating.

  Riaann [68:54]: "I give Southern Charm a C minus... it's kind of boring."

• The Real Housewives and Other Reality Shows:

  The discussion touches upon various reality TV dynamics, including interpersonal drama and character developments in shows like "The Real Housewives" and "Survivor."

• The Recruit Season 2:

  Excitement surrounds the new season of "The Recruit," with the hosts anticipating more action-packed content and improved character development.

  Fran [84:30]: "The Recruit Season 2 is streaming now on Netflix. It was a great night for the show."

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Noah Centineo Interview

The latter part of the episode features an in-depth conversation with actor Noah Centineo, focusing on his role in "The Recruit" Season 2 and his personal journey.

Career Growth and The Recruit

Noah discusses the transition from his earlier roles to his current character, Owen, a CIA lawyer navigating intense, action-driven scenarios.

Noah [93:40]: "The second season is like the first season, but with adrenaline and way more action."

He elaborates on the challenges of portraying a complex character without prior training, emphasizing the growth and comfort he's gained over time.

Noah [94:10]: "I've learned a lot and it's definitely a little bit easier now."

Personal Life and Sobriety

Noah opens up about his personal struggles with sobriety, detailing the pivotal moment that led him to seek a healthier lifestyle despite achieving financial stability and career success.

Noah [108:03]: "I was so unhappy... I realized that I needed to dry out, sober up, and kind of take a look at myself."

He attributes his improved well-being to confronting his issues head-on and adopting disciplined habits.

Noah [111:00]: "Sobriety and addiction are tough... You gotta want to."

Filming Experiences and Future Projects

Noah shares his experiences filming in South Korea and working with the CIA and State Department, highlighting the unique opportunities and challenges encountered on set.

Noah [95:17]: "We shot at the CIA and the State Department, which was really cool."

He expresses optimism for future roles and desires to work with directors who align with his creative vision.

Noah [116:00]: "I look for directors and filmmakers that I really trust... I'm open to all opportunities."

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Conclusion

Riaann and Fran conclude the episode by reiterating their enjoyment of the Grammys and expressing excitement for future episodes of "The Recruit." They extend their gratitude to Noah Centineo for joining the show and provide a sneak peek into upcoming discussions and interviews.

Riaann [117:06]: "Thank you so much for watching and listening. We love you guys so very much."

The episode offers a comprehensive blend of award show analysis, television critiques, and personal narratives, making it a must-listen for fans eager to stay informed on pop culture and entertainment.

Transcript

[Fran]

Hey, Chicks in the Office listeners. You can find every episode on Apple podcasts, Spotify or YouTube Prime. Members can listen ad free on Amazon Music. What's up, everyone?

[Rhiann]

It's Chicks in the Office with Rhiann Fran giving you that Friday energy on a Monday. Happy Monday, everybody. Happy day. After the Grammys, we'll get into all of that. It was actually a fantastic show. A lot of the best. It was a great show. It was a long show. Three hours, so we'll get into that. Yeah. Almost four. Holy.

[Noah]

You're right.

[Fran]

Yeah, it was like.

[Noah]

It was.

[Fran]

It was basically.

[Rhiann]

I just counted wrong. It was four hours.

[Fran]

And I did it, like, midnight, right?

[Rhiann]

Yeah, it was like on the dot.

[Fran]

Yeah. Yeah, it was four hours.

[Rhiann]

Hefty show.

[Fran]

Honestly, could have kept going. I would have been like, I. I might. I don't think I've ever said that I would. After Grammys, like, waking up the next day being like, I would actually rewatch that entire Grammys. I would. I would.

[Rhiann]

No, the performances were so good. But we'll get into all of that. How we feeling? How was the weekend, everybody?

[Fran]

Wonderful. Had a lovely weekend. It was my brother's birthday.

[Rhiann]

Yes. Happy birthday, jb.

[Fran]

So we went out, eat a little shindig Saturday night. Couple good dinners, celebrating. Lot of fun.

[Rhiann]

Yeah. Groovy place.

[Fran]

Yeah. Good vibes, good tunes.

[Rhiann]

Disco balls. Yeah. Good tunes, Good vibes.

[Fran]

Yep.

[Rhiann]

I had a double feature this weekend, actually. I saw you.

[Fran]

Yep.

[Rhiann]

And then I saw Noah. Not at the same time.

[Fran]

No, different plans.

[Noah]

Same night, though.

[Fran]

Same night. I. I was laughing because I was like, I actually don't think I have gone out to a bar on the Lower east side. Years. Like, actually years. I was walking past. I was just walking down First Ave. And, like, as we crossed over Houston, I was like, oh, my God. I. I have not been in this area. I think maybe pre Covid. Like, I was like, oh, really? I'm like, I never go out down there. Never.

[Rhiann]

I would say the last time I was at a bar there, I want to say 2021.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Rhiann]

Which I guess is a long time now.

[Fran]

Maybe, like, Lauren's surprise party. Like, that was. And, like, that was kind of.

[Rhiann]

That was the type of bar that we're talking about.

[Fran]

Totally. Like, the lower. More of the, like, Lower east side.

[Rhiann]

Oh, wait. Just kidding. The Green Tea tour.

[Noah]

I was going to say 2022.

[Rhiann]

The Great Green Tea Tour of 2022.

[Fran]

There you go. You're definitely down there. But snow was lovely. It was a. It was a. It was a fun time. But I really was like. I don't. I forget what it's like to like go out to like a bar on the Lower east side, right.

[Rhiann]

They write songs about that.

[Fran]

I know. I just have my like five places that I just am always at, you know.

[Rhiann]

Yeah, but. But the US the usual spots.

[Fran]

Exactly.

[Rhiann]

Same sort of vibe. This weekend for myself. JB's little birthday bash. Some dinners, great spots. Went to Brooklyn Saturday morning. Went to this bakery in Brooklyn that's absolutely just incredible. My family loves getting this Sicilian dessert. They're called cartoochis for the holidays. They're incredible. It's like a fry. It's like cannoli, but not like it's fried. Has like the cannoli cream in the middle. It's like a donut, you know, it's hard to describe, but it's so good. Look it up. And instead of doing a classic wedding cake, we're doing like, we're doing cartoochis, like layered to look like a cake sort of thing. Because we're doing just like a small little wedding cake for us to cut, whatever. But like the thing that will be served is the carto cheese, which I'm pumped about. And I can't wait for everybody to try them.

[Fran]

From this specific bakery.

[Rhiann]

From this specific bakery. So we had to go there, talk to them, do the whole thing. And it was just incredible. Just so, so, so good.

[Fran]

I was in Brooklyn as well on Friday night. I forgot about that. But real New York weekend. Yeah, weekend. Moving and grooving. Went to a concert with. With Joe. So, you know, some funk band that I've literally never heard of. I'll go with you.

[Rhiann]

Yeah, why not?

[Fran]

And it the Brooklyn bowl, which was a cool spot, half bowling alley, half live music venue.

[Rhiann]

It is a cool spot.

[Fran]

So really enjoyed that. We saw Galactic. They're actually a New Orleans band, which.

[Rhiann]

Is cool, cuz you following them this week.

[Fran]

Well, Joe was like, I think you know how he sold me too. He was last week he was like, they are New Orleans band. I think that's pretty good juju if you wanted to go see them with me. I was like, so true. You're so true. I should go. I should go.

[Rhiann]

How are you feeling now? Leaving for New Orleans right after of this?

[Fran]

Yeah, yeah, I'm excited. It's going to be a. A full week down there, which I'm, you know, excited and a little bit nervous about because it's like you don't want to overdo it at the beginning of the trip where it's like, got a long ways to go.

[Rhiann]

A lot of people don't get there till, like, Wednesday, though, for super bowl week. It's always, like, Monday. Tuesday's a little calm. Wednesday, it does.

[Fran]

Tuesday night, though, like, it's like, things are. Things are ramping up early.

[Rhiann]

Things are happening. I can't wait for you to text me with, like, some gossip happening. You know what I mean?

[Fran]

I'm participating in. I'm participating in a table tennis tournament on Wednesday.

[Rhiann]

The battle of the paddles.

[Fran]

And I'm hoping that. That by. And I'm like, still. It's gonna be so funny because I still, like, kind of think that they're gonna, like, email me and be like, just kidding. We don't want you to play.

[Rhiann]

That's not gonna happen.

[Fran]

But, um. And I haven't, like, publicly. I'm. It's. It should be going up today, so hopefully that'll. That'll seal the deal that I'm actually participating, but should be really interesting. It is a lot of, like, current pro athletes that are playing. I did get some reps in.

[Rhiann]

Let's go to practice.

[Fran]

I went Sunday afternoon with Joe and jb.

[Rhiann]

How'd you do?

[Fran]

I. I can hold my own.

[Rhiann]

Yeah. No one's doubting you.

[Fran]

Yeah. Yeah. But it was funny because Joe loves to be like, oh, friend. She always. She always downplays her athletic ability. Like, she's got. I'm like, joe, let's. Let's bring it in here. I'm talking about ping pong. You know, like, we're. We're.

[Noah]

Hey, that's an Olympic sport.

[Fran]

No, but I'm like, I'm not gonna. I'm not gonna gauge my. Like, I may be better at. I know. I think for the tournament, we have to call it table tennis. But it was like, I think, you know, I may be better than an NFL player playing table tennis, but if we're just. If you're. You know, we're gonna go with that guy being more athletic. So. Yeah. No, it was just funny, but I did. No, I felt good. Kind of played in a little bit, so I just wanted to, like, you know, get a paddle in my hand.

[Rhiann]

Yeah.

[Fran]

Feel it out, make sure it all came out flipping around and. Exactly. Make sure. Came back a little bit.

[Rhiann]

Yeah.

[Fran]

See how it feels like riding a bike, practicing a couple different serves, trying to. Trying to learn a little backspin. So that's. That'll be interesting. So that's Wednesday night. I think. I think you could stream it.

[Rhiann]

Oh, my God, Fran. If I can stream battle of the paddles. I am watching right on the dot of when it's happening with popcorn. I'm gonna make my family sit down with me and be like, we're watching Fran with Battle of the Battles. Okay. Like, I need that to be streamed because I need to.

[Fran]

I'm pretty sure it is.

[Rhiann]

I'm going to be hollering at the screen.

[Fran]

It's going to be quite funny. But no, it's going to be a great week. My whole family's coming on Friday. So, you know, Joe, jb, Gia, my parents, everybody's coming. It's going to be Friday, so it's going to be a ton of fun of the weekend with them going to bop around. I have secured tickets to the game.

[Rhiann]

Let's go.

[Fran]

I have secured tickets to the game.

[Rhiann]

What she has, ladies and gentlemen.

[Fran]

I'm also fucking pumped about and also, you know, a little nervous as one should be, because I did this two years ago, you know, and it wasn't a great outcome.

[Rhiann]

Right.

[Fran]

And if it happens again, the same outcome, not even gonna speak it. What that would be out loud. I'm, I'm. You won't catch me because the one.

[Noah]

Time you didn't catch me, the next one they won.

[Fran]

Yeah. Then, Exactly. Then, then, then. I know that I, like, really, I'm cursed.

[Rhiann]

But you were at the last game and they won, so.

[Fran]

Exactly. And, you know, that's just kind of how it goes. And, And I know my deep Philly fan people will understand, like, especially with our. Your dads and, and the juju and the whole thing, it is. It is very real. I mean, in the early 2000s, when they made all those NFC championship games in a row, my dad went to ev. All of them, they lost three years in a row. They lost every single one. The fourth one, he didn't go. He was like, it. I'm not going. They won. So he was like, that's it. I'm never going.

[Rhiann]

Fair.

[Fran]

I'm never going back to again. Very fair now.

[Rhiann]

But he was at the 1. The Super bowl they did win.

[Fran]

He was at the one they did win. Exactly. So here's the thing. Right now, they are. I believe they are going to be at the game, hopefully. But they are. They haven't pulled the plug on going yet.

[Rhiann]

They'll be there.

[Fran]

I can't imagine they wouldn't.

[Rhiann]

They're going to feel the magic in the air and they are buying those tickets as soon as their feet.

[Fran]

I can't imagine. I can't imagine they wouldn't or will you know, try and. Try and find a way that they get in the door there, which then brings back in the good juju because my parents were at the Minnesota super bowl together. So you need your parents there, actually. For sure.

[Rhiann]

I'm going to text them and say that they need to go. They give them more.

[Fran]

That's the, that's the push that they need. Yeah, right. No, yeah, I. I have a feeling it'll happen. I think they might be bringing the dogs they're road tripping from.

[Rhiann]

Oh, my God. Wow. That's going to be fun. Fun little road trip on the way there. You know, you never know on the way back. Hopefully it's great on the way back too. You never know. Super excited for you, though. Can't wait to hear all the stories that happen this week. During the whole week. You know, a lot of people are down there, you know, a lot of celebrities, influencers, the whole thing. So I cannot wait to hear the story.

[Fran]

I'm excited.

[Rhiann]

Cool people.

[Fran]

And I feel like it's going to be such a fun environment because past Super Bowls, you know, things are kind of spread out. There's not like one area that everybody's hanging out. I just feel like walking down Bourbon street, you're going to be turning left and right. It's going to be like players, everyone.

[Rhiann]

Everyone's going to want to go to that street.

[Fran]

Exactly.

[Rhiann]

It's going to be. It's going to be a blast. I cannot wait to hear the stories.

[Fran]

Laughing because on a Jason Kelsey's late night show. Do I have more shit on my face?

[Rhiann]

No, no, I was wiping my own face.

[Fran]

You know, you got a little something something. No, he's watching his late night show and he.

[Rhiann]

The.

[Fran]

On the YouTube, they show like in between the commercial breaks like that not is what is on espn and he's always like talking to the crowd and doing stuff or whatever and he's like, you know, I'm so excited to get down on Bourbon street and like do this, do that. And Kylie was like, why don't you give him your whole schedule?

[Rhiann]

Oh my God.

[Fran]

Why don't you tell them exactly where you're gonna be and what time you're gonna be there.

[Rhiann]

So true. I mean, he's gonna get bombarded. Like so many people are, but he's gonna get really.

[Fran]

Made me laugh.

[Rhiann]

Oh, he's gonna get bombarded. I'll be in Florida this week. Nice.

[Fran]

It's gonna be nice warm weather.

[Rhiann]

It's gonna be 80 and freaking sunny every single day. Can't wait Taking Luca on the plane for the first time today, helping my sister with that. It's going to be a trip. It's going to be. It's going to be something else.

[Fran]

Document this.

[Rhiann]

I'm going to document. But it's also like, you know, like, my. My sister is a mother, but it also feels like we're two young kids taking care of the baby.

[Fran]

Right, Right.

[Rhiann]

You know, you just, like, revert back to being like your young sisters. So that'll be fun. But chill week. Hoping to see some friends that are actually there at the same time. My cousin Francesca, I think I'm gonna see her on Friday. Matt's coming on Friday. My brother in law's coming on Friday, so we'll have a nice little weekend with the whole family there.

[Fran]

Love it.

[Rhiann]

This weekend.

[Fran]

But during family time all around, just in different locations.

[Rhiann]

Yeah. Family time all around. My Nano, my parents were making the guest room bed for me and my sister to sleep in. And my Nonno was like, why are you making the bed? And they were like, because Maria and Nicole are coming. And he was like, no. Maria said, she's gonna sleep in my bed. I said, no. I actually never said that. My parents called me. I said, no, I didn't. I never said that. I would never offer that.

[Fran]

I.

[Rhiann]

No. That's a no. Yeah. With him, like, no. You know what I mean? Like, no. He's really feeling the love, I guess. He like, yeah, he called me last week. He's like, I love you so much. I'm like, I love you too. No, no, of course. But he's not that kind, like, as much as, like, my family is very like, I love you, I love you, I love you. My Nono is not really, but last week, he's like, really? Like, I love you, I love you, I love you. Which is great to hear. And so he's so sweet and so nice, but I was like, no, I'm gonna be sleeping with my sister. You know, because both of us, like, Matt's not there during the weekend, and my brother in law is not there during the week, so me and my sister, like, we'll just sleep together until the weekend. But yeah. Yeah. I said to Matt, I said, when you show up on Friday, you should be like, all right, I'm in Nano's bed with Nano.

[Fran]

He's getting old.

[Rhiann]

I mean, he's 87, you know?

[Fran]

Yes. Yeah.

[Rhiann]

He's innocent, you know?

[Fran]

Yep. But, yeah, no, it's. It's.

[Rhiann]

I don't want to sleep in bed with my 87 year old grandfather.

[Fran]

No.

[Rhiann]

You know, no. Who does?

[Fran]

Can't. Can't say anybody's got that on their list.

[Rhiann]

Nobody's like me. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Fran]

Things to do with your grandpa as he. As he ages.

[Rhiann]

Right. No, absolutely not.

[Fran]

Yep, yep.

[Rhiann]

That gave them a good laugh. Yeah, yeah.

[Fran]

Just making me think of like Charlie the chocolate factory. It's just like you guys, like head to toe, right? Like facing opposite, toe to head. Yeah. Oh, yeah. All right. Well, should we jump into.

[Rhiann]

Yes, we shall.

[Fran]

The rest of the show.

[Rhiann]

One piece of hair I've been trying to wipe this entire time. I think that why I kept going like this to my face. I had this one hair. Noah, how was your weekend? This was like the last time we did this, remember? Yeah, yep.

[Noah]

No, it was. It was fun, you know, had a lot of victories to celebrate.

[Rhiann]

We'll get right into it.

[Noah]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Fran]

The Grammys was really Noah's night. I think he also basically won an honorary Grammy for all his favorites winning.

[Noah]

I just feel like this never has happened to me, which I'm sure we'll talk about. But like just in any award show, I always.

[Fran]

This just hasn't happened to me.

[Noah]

The awards or the, like the movies or the music that I want to win or think should win. Never do. And then this time I'm like, wow, we did it.

[Fran]

We finally did the recording academy. All 13,000.

[Rhiann]

You overcame a lot to get to.

[Fran]

This are named Noah Ives.

[Rhiann]

All right, let's get into it so we can jump right into it. We're going to be talking about the Grammys. We got weekly watch report and we have a fantastic interview with Noah Centineo. So let's get into it. The big game is here and there is no better time to get out to some games. With the help of gametime, the official ticketing partner of barstool sports. You know how much we love game time. And now with their brand new gametime picks feature, they're making it even easier to get to a game. Game time picks filters out the fluff to show you only incredible deals on great seats so you don't have to waste time searching through thousands of tickets. Philly is looking to knock off Kansas City and New Orleans and you've got to get your tickets with game time. If you're looking for tickets to the big game, there are some amazing game time picks deals on game time. Just pull up the chosen event, obviously the big game, and turn on the GT pick setting at the top of the screen and you can browse your deals on the gametime app homepage. So what are you waiting for? Get those tickets to the big game. Take the guesswork out of buying tickets with gametime. Download the gametime app, create an account and use code chicks for $20 off your first purchase terms do apply. Again, create an account and redeem code chicks. That's C h I c k s for $20 off. Download the game time app today. What time is it? It is game time, ladies and gentlemen. All right, Grammys talk. I mean, this was a spectacular show.

[Fran]

Yep.

[Rhiann]

3 hours and 50 minutes on the dot long show. But they crushed it. I really thought that this was a great show. A lot of performances. Not that many awards being handed out during the show.

[Fran]

No, I think they. How many you think they gave away the whole show? Seven.

[Noah]

Seven.

[Fran]

Seven or nine.

[Noah]

Nine.

[Rhiann]

Nine nine in four hours?

[Fran]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Noah]

And if you think about Kendrick, like, was two or three of them, so it's like.

[Fran]

Yeah. And they always. Like, those last few are always kind of like closer together.

[Noah]

What do you think about that? Because people like Charlie xcx don't, like, a lot of people don't get to make speeches or have that shine, you know, when they win.

[Fran]

What do you mean?

[Noah]

Like, all the awards being given out before it starts.

[Fran]

Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh.

[Rhiann]

I gotta be honest. I don't love it. Like, I wish that they saved a lot of them because, you know, you see all these people, like, Sabrina carpenter won her first grammy.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Rhiann]

Not at the show. Like, she won it before the show. Then she won again during the show. But it's like to have your first grammy, you kind of want it to be like during the ceremony, I guess. But either way, right, like, you say you want a Grammy and you're like, fuck it, I want a Grammy.

[Fran]

I think it just. It's solely just because of show. Like, run of show is they want to keep the entertainment factor there, have all those performances and everything, and you just. You just can't have that many performances do all the. It'd be six hours long. Like, it's just. They can't. They can't do it. And I know they try and do some of the biggest. And I think they do coordinate when it comes to, like, having that big moment and which ones they do announce and they try to go through the biggest ones. But like, the. Like the. The what? My brain just lost it completely. The duets, like, yeah, like Beyonce, my only one, but that was like country. But then the pop one, they. They did during the show.

[Rhiann]

Right.

[Fran]

So it's Like, I feel like they kind of pick and choose for certain, for certain ones. Like, you would think you would want the Beyonce Miley win to be, right, televised.

[Noah]

She's like, Beyonce, we won.

[Fran]

Yeah, yeah.

[Rhiann]

Listen, Miley has the coolest confidence in the entire world, and I want to be Miley Cyrus, but you can't be Miley Cyrus without accomplishing all the things Miley Cyrus has accomplished.

[Fran]

Right.

[Rhiann]

Like, Miley has earned the right to, like, talk and act the way she does, where she's just like, I'm the fucking shit. And I want you all to know it. And you do, and we respect that about Miley.

[Fran]

Absolutely.

[Rhiann]

But let's. Let's talk about some of the awards that were handed out during the show. I'm going to our Chicks in the Office account, where everything was posted spot on the whole night. Well, I guess we could talk pre show really quickly because Kanye and his wife.

[Fran]

Talk about the carpet.

[Rhiann]

Yeah, talk about the carpet. Kanye and his wife showed up. Bianca. Bianca and Kanye showed up to the red carpet, and she was naked and.

[Fran]

Couldn'T have been more naked, honestly.

[Rhiann]

No, she was just naked. Like, vagina out. And I was. I felt like a Facebook mom because I was writing the group chat. Like, this should be illegal. Like, this is disgusting.

[Fran]

I was cracking up. My friends were saying the same thing. They were like, can she get arrested? Like, this is public.

[Rhiann]

It's public indecency. Like, people get to like, if you're naked in public, you have to, like, don't you have to register?

[Fran]

No, it's really wild. And it's like, all these pictures are just up on Getty. Like, it's like, she's just naked. No, it's insane.

[Rhiann]

She's fucking naked. Clit out. It's actually. It's disgusting.

[Fran]

And it's also like, is she okay? No, that's like. That's like. It's like, alarming. Like, it's like you. She does not look like she is. She looks like she is trapped in. In some sort of Kanye mind game torture chamber.

[Rhiann]

Well, that's why I'm also, like. Part of me feels bad for her because I feel like she's being forced to do this.

[Fran]

Literally. They're like, there is something just really gross about it. It's.

[Rhiann]

It's gross. And I'm like. It feels like she's being forced by Kanye to, like, walk around as his. Just like, I don't even know, like, what he is trying to present. Like, it's just. This is my body. I own her. And she's going to walk around naked as much as I want her to. It's fudgeing. Gross. It should be illegal. Kanye should never be invited to anything. Like, are we, like, that's why when I saw this, I was like, how was Kanye invited to the Grammys? If I was Taylor Swift and I saw Kanye was invited to the Grammys, I'd be like, see ya.

[Fran]

Yeah, have fun.

[Rhiann]

Find a new presenter.

[Noah]

Nominated. Right. Carnival, I think.

[Fran]

I. I don't know.

[Rhiann]

I'd be like, find a new presenter. I'm not fucking going. Turns out. Yeah, people, it was reported that he showed up uninvited. He got escorted out. Then that article was taken down. So then people were like, wait, was he uninvited? Or did they just want to show up on the carpet? Nicky. And then leave? Like, Right.

[Fran]

So there's conflicting reports. Some sources say that they were asked to leave. Some say that he showed up, did the carpet, made his big statement, and then left. And, like, that was, like, all that he was there and wanted to be doing. Like, just, like, have that moment and then leave.

[Rhiann]

He is an awful human.

[Fran]

And no. Yeah. Like, no, thank you.

[Rhiann]

It's just crazy. Like, it's just insane.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Rhiann]

I. It's so bizarre. And it really is bizarre that she looks exactly like Kim Kardashian. I get this sick, twisted brain.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Rhiann]

Where he is presenting this naked girl in front of everybody that looks like Kim Kardashian. It's really weird. It's just bizarre. Well, that ends my Facebook mom rant. But I was. I was really mad. I was, like. I was, like, fired up about it.

[Fran]

I mean, there. You can't. If you're showing up in something that can't be shown on tv, like, that's a problem. You know, it's just, like.

[Rhiann]

It's just bizarre. Yeah, it's just bizarre.

[Fran]

Yeah, it's really. All around. All around. Not good. So that was the, I guess, like, crazy moment of the carpet. People were really taken aback by that. Thankfully, it didn't really seem like he had any interactions with other people.

[Noah]

That it was really early.

[Fran]

Yeah. That it would have been uncomfortable. Everybody else came late. Beyonce didn't even walk the carpet. She was.

[Rhiann]

I mean, there's children at the show. People bring their kids.

[Fran]

Yeah. Yeah. I mean, yeah, It's a massive, you know, theater. And there. All these. All these people around. And some other great carpet appearances. Carpet looks. I loved Sabrina Carpenter's Just Blue. Oh, my God. She looked amazing. I think it was my favorite.

[Rhiann]

She's got everything going on right now. You know what I mean?

[Fran]

Good.

[Rhiann]

Her and her team are so creative, so good. They've really, you know, captured what she's going for. She has a vision and now she. It's like when you think of certain things, you think of Sabrina Carpenter, right? Like, it has. She has a look now. She has something that goes with her. So I loved it.

[Fran]

I mean, love that. Loved. I love. I thought Olivia Rodrigo looked stunning. Miley looks stunning. Really? All the ladies crushed it. I've read Chapel Roan's dress was like the same dress that Beyonce wore in an elle shoot from 2003, which I thought was really cool too. Saw the side by side photos. Taylor looked beautiful. Taylor Swift, like, she. She always looks nice. She's stunning human being. I think people are a little more critical of her carpet looks because the, the possibilities are just endless. And she never like, it's. It's never. I'm never like, ugh. You know, it's never like, I'm like, oh, no. I hate that. She always looks beautiful and she did last night look like. But. And I don't know if it's because of the emergence of these Instagram accounts and like whatever of these fashion accounts that like faux dress Taylor before these events and Photoshop and they're like, I'd love to see Taylor in this, from this collection and whatever. And it's like you're like, oh, my God, that would be insane. She is, you know, tall, stunning, beautiful. Could really wear anything. So I'm like, sometimes I'm like, oh, gosh. I just. It's just like, it's just almost there, you know?

[Rhiann]

Well, this dress is. You're. You scroll and you see this dress on revolve, you know, so it's like that's kind of the vibe. And it doesn't mean it's ugly or bad. It just means people expect more.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Rhiann]

I loved the charm on her leg. I thought that was hot. Like, that's cool.

[Noah]

We're all joking about the High School musical tea.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Rhiann]

Tears and joy. Thought that was cool. Loved Olivia Rodrigo's. Olivia Rodrigo always goes with like a classic black dress, but it always works for her. She's so stunning.

[Fran]

Looked like she had a fun night with her boyfriend too as well. He was sitting with each other.

[Rhiann]

I actually really like Cynthia Erivos too. I thought hers was really cool. Like the silver metallic, little open on the stomach. I thought it. I thought it was very Grammys. I thought that was super cool. Charlie xcx. I thought hers was sick. I Thought it was very her.

[Fran]

I thought Charlie's was really cool. I. I didn't love the boot shoe, whatever you want to call. I very hurt, you know, Charlie, you.

[Rhiann]

Know who I love? Gracie Abrams. Yeah, I really loved Gracie Abrams just from the side of the fact that I was like, wow, she looks ethereal is the word, right?

[Fran]

She absolutely does. Absolutely. As the veil and everything. Yeah.

[Rhiann]

Like, I mean, I, I don't know if it's Grammys, but it's like I thought it was cool.

[Fran]

Yeah. I, I love her so much. I did not love the. I did not love the look.

[Rhiann]

I like the top half. Yeah, like the. Love the top.

[Fran]

I didn't love where the dress fell. I didn't love the length of the dress. Chanel on a carpet is always like very classic chic. Which, exactly. Which is like, exactly what it is. But for like the Grammys. I don't know if I'd want Chanel.

[Rhiann]

I thought she just looked like, it was like beautiful. Like she does really crazy.

[Fran]

Oh my. The close up shots of her face. So she just looks gorgeous. An absolute dream.

[Rhiann]

Alicia Keys, always super cool. Like, she is just so fucking cool. She is Billie Eilish. Comfy and cozy per usual. Cool.

[Fran]

Yep.

[Rhiann]

Always looking cool. Yeah. I thought, I thought they crushed it on the, on the carpet. Doi what I felt like, like, I'm.

[Fran]

Sure Beyonce has some pictures that she took herself.

[Rhiann]

Yeah.

[Fran]

Maybe she'll post. Because I liked the dress she was wearing.

[Rhiann]

Dochi was perfect because it played into her performance. And then she stripped down into, you know, a little sports bra and undie moment which she looked so, so good. So incredible. Like, oh my God.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Rhiann]

Just so good all around. But yeah, the carpet was nothing too crazy.

[Fran]

Yeah. Then there was a big, there was a big moment on the carpet that everybody was talking about during an interview with Baby Face. The AP reporters basically like cut him off mid thought like as he is speaking because chaperone was behind him and they were like trying to talk to chaperone and it's going insanely. He walked off and the, the reporter has since apologized.

[Noah]

But like apology was like her apology.

[Fran]

Was kind of lame.

[Noah]

Oh yeah. Sorry that I wanted to talk to chaperone more like it wasn't an apology. It was like that's what you did.

[Fran]

It was like, oh, like no disrespect, blah, blah, blah. But like, oh no, it was absolute crazy move. Really. I mean, so rude.

[Rhiann]

Insane.

[Fran]

So rude. I don't care like what they're telling you. You're. You are somebody's speaking to you, like to your face. Like, I know you're on the carpet. You got somebody in your ear telling you to do this, telling you to do that. Oh my God. We gotta go to a commercial or we gotta get this person, this person. Let the person speaking finish their thought. That's just like you. Rule of thumb.

[Rhiann]

Seems like standard practice.

[Fran]

Yeah. Seem like you let them finish their thought. Baby face was even like, that was.

[Noah]

Are you want to talk to her? Okay.

[Fran]

Yeah, go ahead.

[Rhiann]

Oh, I'd be pissed. I'd be like, all right. Me? I guess.

[Fran]

No. And you know, Khloe Kardashian actually posted a whole long thing. Did you see her story? She was like, that was so disrespectful.

[Rhiann]

It is so disrespectful.

[Fran]

Is such an icon in the music world and everything. And, and, and you're just really incredibly rude. There's really no way around it. I don't. You apologize. You don't apologize.

[Rhiann]

That's just so rude. Regardless, even if you do apologize, people going to be like, that's rude. There's no way around that.

[Fran]

Yeah. Cuz you don't. You, you know what you're doing in the moment, like cutting somebody off, like that is intentional. Yeah.

[Rhiann]

And I don't care how excited you are, like just reel it in for just a moment for you're. You're working the carpet. Like you know how to do your job. Just continue.

[Fran]

Yeah. And the Grammys succeeded. Even with Trevor Noah, once again, you know, he is useless.

[Rhiann]

The thing with Trevor Noah is just like the jokes are played out.

[Fran]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Rhiann]

Like after getting there was after I had.

[Fran]

I got one chuckle and I don't even remember what the joke was.

[Noah]

Did you see the.

[Fran]

But I do remember having one chuckle.

[Noah]

And be like, okay, notice he says some like stupid joke and Jochi like.

[Fran]

Just rolls her eyes so hard.

[Rhiann]

I love that. But after being so refreshed by Nikki Glazer at the Golden Globes, going to the. The same old jokes from Trevor Noah.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Rhiann]

You're like, you know, I mean he's up there doing his best, but it's.

[Fran]

Yeah, yeah.

[Rhiann]

You're not. We're not talking about. Oh my God, Trevor Noah did an.

[Noah]

Amazing job in a row. It's like five years. Give us another person.

[Fran]

And like, I will say I do feel it's. I will say it is very hard to navigate Grammys where there is especially in an opening, in an intro where it's not just your typical opening monologue. Like it did obviously start On a more serious tone, talking about the fires, how people can help.

[Rhiann]

Where.

[Fran]

Donate the. The Dawes performance, starting with, you know, there was Brad Paisley, Sheryl Crowe, and John Legend. All these people. Like, there was a. There's a big moment where it is hard. Like, you can't just jump right into jokes. It's a hard balance. So that's tough. And east, and you still are trying to do both. But I will say I felt like. I felt like it was maybe the least amount of time he's spoken during a Grammy. Like, he really didn't have a lot.

[Noah]

Of moments at the table.

[Fran]

Yeah. Like, at the beginning, and then, like, a couple, maybe in between here or there. But the show moved without him for a majority.

[Noah]

I do, like, when he's in the table area talking, because you can. I don't care what he's saying. I'm just looking in the background being like, what is Taylor talking about?

[Fran]

And, like, the whole opening time, it was just. He was right next to Chapel Roan. And I was like, oh, man, she must be like, God damn, this camera's on me for so long.

[Rhiann]

Right, Right.

[Fran]

Like, you, like, can't react or, like, even.

[Rhiann]

Do you.

[Fran]

Do you know, you're like, okay.

[Rhiann]

You're like, do I laugh?

[Fran]

I'm in frame for this entire monologue.

[Rhiann]

Yeah. The. It's also like, they. You know, they had to incorporate a lot, talking about the fires and everything that happened, which I thought they did a good job of doing. Absolutely.

[Fran]

So, yeah, they raised a lot of money, which is.

[Rhiann]

Yeah. So they. That couldn't have been the easiest job last night to do. But we went into it. We started off with the awards. The first award to be given out at the show was Best Rap Album, and Dochi won, which was incredible. For Alligator Bites Never Heal, I texted Noah, and I was like. I had to give a shout out to Noah because everyone, like, just seems like lately everyone's posting about Dochi on TikTok.

[Noah]

Something happened where she became, like, every celebrity's favorite artist, like, overnight.

[Rhiann]

Yeah. But I was like, you know what? Noah texted me about Dochi months and months ago, and I was like, I gotta give credit to Noah. And he was like. He was like, saying you like something before everybody else is so lame. But, like, I have to say that I did. And I was like, it is true. It is true. You. You put me on before. Yeah, I wasn't. When Doji started, like, popping off, I was like, wait, this? Like, I'm like, Noah sent me her, and I'm like, You know, it's weird, like everyone. When everyone starts, like all of a sudden, you know, it's tick tock. It's like he just gets picked up over and over and over again.

[Noah]

She's a really good performer, though. Like all, like the, like, performances that she had a tiny desk concert.

[Rhiann]

Yeah. Oh, so good.

[Fran]

Yeah. Only the third woman to win the yes in that award.

[Rhiann]

Lauryn Hill, Cardi B and Dochi. Kind of crazy.

[Fran]

Nicki Minaj is never.

[Noah]

That is crazy.

[Rhiann]

It is crazy.

[Fran]

Kind of crazy.

[Rhiann]

It is insane.

[Fran]

Like, the amount of dominant.

[Noah]

Like, I wonder what year. I wonder what year she. Like, who she lost to when she lost Nicki Minaj.

[Fran]

Yeah, a few years.

[Rhiann]

Yeah, we'll have to look at. I mean, when Macklemore won, that was the most insane thing of all time.

[Fran]

But no, very. That's such a. So awesome. Verm was. That was a really cool moment.

[Rhiann]

So.

[Noah]

So mom looks exactly like her, by the way.

[Rhiann]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. So cool, though. So happy for her. And then Sabrina Carpenter won best Pop Vocal album. Short and sweet. So happy for Sabrina. So well deserved, I think. I think everyone was. It seemed like everyone was happy for her. Standing up, cheering for her. She's so cute and this album was really great.

[Fran]

So was.

[Rhiann]

And I mean, like some of the most popular songs this year or like ever at this point with the streaming numbers. Yeah, she deserved it.

[Fran]

Totally short and sweet. Very well named album.

[Noah]

I say they show one of the packages for her songs. Please, please. And like, Barry was in it.

[Rhiann]

Yeah, yeah, I know. She's probably watching, like, what? The best country album now. This is where it got controversial. Beyonce won for Cowboy Carter for best country album. A lot of mixed opinions on this.

[Fran]

Yep.

[Rhiann]

They announce it. She looks shocked. Jay Z looks shocked. Blue Ivy looks shocked. I'm now sort of leaning towards. She was shocked. Like, at first I was like, I think she knew. You know what I mean? Like, I think she knew she was winning something, but I don't know with the amount. Like, if you look at everyone's faces, I'm like, damn, they all look really shocked. Like. Like if Blue Ivy and Jay Z didn't look shocked and then Beyonce did, I would be like, no, they knew.

[Fran]

Right.

[Rhiann]

But they both looked really shocked as well. Unless they're just a really good on Pretend.

[Noah]

Made me think, oh, well, she's probably not going to win the best album now. Like, they're going to give her this.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Noah]

But yeah, they did look pretty genuinely shocked.

[Fran]

Yeah, I. No matter what, there's going to be a Lot of discourse around it because of her, you know, not getting nominated at the Country Music Awards and things like that and how she has been vocal about, you know, not fully being. Being welcomed and what the country community, like the country fan community says back to that and everything. But if you're. It's tough. Cuz I. I just really love that album so much that I'm like okay, amazing. Love it. And I'm not a massive. Like I will listen to country music for sure. Like I don't. I don't not listen or not play things like there. If it's. If I see people talking about it, like I'll give it a listen and. But I felt like it stood pretty strong in the category that it was in compared to like the other nominees too.

[Noah]

So look too happy.

[Rhiann]

I agree. I think if you. You are a country artist in that category, you are not happy about this. Like I think that Lainey Wilson, I think Casey Bus. I think they both. I mean Chris Stapleton, like everybody who's nominated in this category probably Post Malone was nominated too.

[Fran]

Right. It's like. Right. That's like the same kind of thing. Post Malone made a country album.

[Rhiann]

But I, I think like the. The country artists in this category were probably pissed.

[Fran]

And by the way, Casey Musgrave's Deeper well was like sure you want to call it a country album, but it was very folk. Like her stuff is not like fully I would go typical country either. Like her stuff falls into that kind of like folky country, little pop be sort of vibe as well. I loved that. I thought that album was fantastic also. It just was a crazy year really. Like there was just a lot of good music and I did. It did feel like everybody kind of got their flowers a little bit here or there. Like it got trickled down through like some of the other awards that.

[Rhiann]

You know what we could talk Cowboy Carter really was an amazing album and I think it was just it in any category. Like it won best album overall. So I think just in its category, no matter if it's a country category or whatever category it was going to win.

[Noah]

So the hate is crazy.

[Rhiann]

I mean it's just a lot of listen and we are not. I am not somebody who listens to country music. So I cannot voice my opinion on whether or not like, you know, I think if you are a huge, huge country music fan and a really dedicated country music fan, then you have a different opinion on that and that's fine. I don't relate to that because I don't listen to country music. I'm just like, I really like this album. So good for her for winning. You know, different. Different opinion on that.

[Fran]

I. I couldn't have signed up faster for the. For the tour. This morning. All of them. Yeah, me and Noah are going to go full. We're going to like, dress up.

[Rhiann]

What are the dates?

[Fran]

They're. They're like kind of spread out, but it's around Memorial Day weekend. It's like the 25th, 28th. There's like, like four nights. There's four nights at. At MetLife.

[Noah]

How many nights of Taylor do at MedLife? Three, four is a lot.

[Fran]

But two weekends. Oh, no, it was three. Three, four is a lot. But it is. They're not back to back. They're like. It's from like the first one is third. It's like Thursday, Saturday, Sunday, Wednesday is. Is the breakdown of it. So I could not have signed up faster for. I'm like talking to my friends. We're like, oh, God, do we? Yeah, I gotta do the whole Taylor thing all over again. Like when I had to go get a capital one credit card, of course, Beyonce City. So I'm like, oh, man, it's gonna be City car.

[Noah]

Oh, it is.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Noah]

I got City.

[Fran]

Oh, hell no. It's getting the tickets.

[Rhiann]

No, it's getting the tickets.

[Fran]

No, you're in charge.

[Rhiann]

Damn.

[Fran]

You have to include Lauren, right?

[Rhiann]

No. Lauren messaged me last night when I put on my story, and she was like, yes, my queen. She was shot.

[Fran]

She was pumped. I was sending. Talking to her this morning about we. I was like, we have to go to this tour.

[Rhiann]

Best new artist was Chapel Roan. And I felt like this was so well deserved. And this is. This is the moment where I. I went. The Grammys are doing it right right now. The awards are going to the. To the right people. Like, it's not just one person winning over and over again. Like, I felt like it was really well deserved. Chaperone. She got up there, she gave a powerful speech. You know, she talked about how, you know, how much they give to the record labels. One of the record labels going to give to them. Talked about, you know, not having a job and. And health insurance and all and all that. And it is a powerful message to do it in front of all of those big people in the industry that probably are hiding their heads down a little bit when they hear this sort of thing. And all the artists are clapping and they're standing up for her. And the. The big guys in the room are just like, kind of like, going into a little shell, like, ah, she's talking to us. So that was a powerful moment. Very happy. Happy for Chapel. Very well deserved for best new artist. I think if Sabrina won that, it would have been like, why?

[Noah]

You know, like, I was confused because I forgot all about.

[Rhiann]

We talked about that. It's like she's not a new artist, but that's what happens. And I don't think I honestly, like as much as I love Sabrina Carpenter and I love her music and I was rooting for her to win every award. I was not rooting for her to win best new artist because it felt unfair, honestly.

[Fran]

Really and totally. And I mean, Sabrina has completely taken over for sure. But if you're. If you're really going off of new and one, you know that Chapel and that album really just, really just exploded.

[Rhiann]

It took off.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Rhiann]

So that was a great win for Chapel.

[Fran]

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[Rhiann]

The next one was best Latin pop album with Shakira.

[Fran]

Shakira.

[Rhiann]

Love Shakira.

[Fran]

I mean, she is incredible.

[Noah]

Like, me and some of my friends were just texting each other the number 48. We're like, how, how is she?

[Fran]

48? Yeah, it's. It's really incredible.

[Rhiann]

No, it's incredible. And she never ever looks different. You Know what I mean? Like, no, Shakira does not age.

[Fran]

I mean, neither does j.lo for 25 years.

[Rhiann]

But Shakira has looked exactly the same. I mean, the way that she moves her body, it's just indescribable.

[Fran]

The belly rolls are really.

[Rhiann]

I mean, she performed. I was. I was like, ah, I just want to dance like that. And Matt was like, you could do that. And I was like, okay. Like, I appreciate the support and the confidence that you give me, but let's be realistic. I cannot body roll like fucking Shakira. Like, like, like, let's be real. And I was trying to do it, and I was like, no, my body did not move like Shakira, Okay?

[Fran]

Not like in my fucking dreams. Do you know they show is one of a kind. No, she is.

[Rhiann]

She is one of a kind, and she's spectacular. Lady Gaga, Bruno Mars. They won best pop duo group performance with Die with a Smile.

[Fran]

Die with a Smile is really a song that cracks me up because it's like, I know it, I hear it.

[Noah]

Why did I not know about this song?

[Fran]

And somehow it's like, it's. But I was joking. You joke? Because it's. It almost felt like a Spotify plant or something. Because anytime I would.

[Noah]

I was trying to get that gambling.

[Fran]

Like, anytime I would click on any curated Spotify playlist since that song has come out, it's been like, at the top, it's like the first song. I'm like, this song is on every, like, any, like, top. And the streaming numbers are insane. Insane. A few months ago, it's like, fairly recent.

[Noah]

When they started performing together, I really was like, what a duo. Who would have ever seen this coming? Like, not knowing.

[Fran]

You had no idea that there was like a. They had a song.

[Rhiann]

I'll say this. I saw people dress up as Bruno and Lady Gaga for Halloween.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Rhiann]

And I was shocked because I thought people listen to this song coming from somebody who loves Gaga and I do. Like, Bruno Mars.

[Fran]

August 2020. August, mid August.

[Rhiann]

I was shocked. I was like, oh, my God. People love this song so much. They're dressing up as Lady Gaga and Bruno Mars for Halloween. But I guess so. You know what I mean, it hit all. It hit all the charts.

[Fran]

It has like a billion streams. Like, it has, like. It's like a really insane number.

[Noah]

Bruno Mars is numbers.

[Fran]

Yeah. 100%. Yeah.

[Rhiann]

That little man rocks.

[Fran]

So their performance was a big one. I was really, selfishly, I was really rooting for us with Gracie and Taylor because I love that song so much. But, you know, can't win them all. Can't win them all.

[Rhiann]

No.

[Fran]

And really, it was not a. Not a. Not an awards night for Taylor.

[Rhiann]

It wasn't. We'll get to that after we wrap up talking about the rest of the awards. But Kendrick Lamar, record of the year.

[Fran]

Yep. Double whammy.

[Rhiann]

Not only did Kendrick Lamar win record of the year, the entire crowd sang a minor. How much do they all despise Drake?

[Noah]

Taylor that was going crazy.

[Rhiann]

Every. Every person was going. Taylor was going crazy. Beyonce and Jay Z. Like, how much do they all hate Drake?

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Rhiann]

That they all join together to sing this song when Kendrick.

[Noah]

I didn't know Kendrick was there. He showed up out of nowhere.

[Rhiann]

Listen, Drake has said a fair share about the Grammys. He literally has a song called Grammys. He has talked about the Grammys. He has. He has with the Grammys. He said that about Kendrick. Kendrick just opened his mouth. Someone go hand him a Grammy right now. Like, joking about how Kendrick just gets handed Grammys. And what did the Grammys do? They had the chance to do the funniest thing ever, and they did it. They were like, Kendrick said. Yeah, they're like Drake said. Kendrick opens his mouth and gets a Grammy. Here you go. Here's your Grammys. Kendrick, like that. It was honestly amazing. And on top of that, wearing a Canadian tuxedo.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Rhiann]

Like, he didn't even have to mention Drake. I think people got confused. He was saying, what's up, Dre? People that are saying, what's up, Drake didn't even have to mention Drake, and he's just wearing the Canadian tuxedo and winning the awards that, like, tried to take down Drake's career. Like, it's. It's insane. It's. He also won song of the year, record of the year, and song of the year for not like us.

[Fran]

Double whammy. Record and song. The crowd was music video. Yeah. The crowd was pumped. Really.

[Rhiann]

Everybody.

[Fran]

The.

[Rhiann]

Russell Westbrook.

[Fran]

Taylor was dancing. She was doing. Doing the sweep. Like, everyone. Yeah. She was, like, sweet. Obviously, Taylor and Kendrick have a. Have a good relationship. Hendrick's been featured on for songs with Taylor. But so it's just. But it. And it's interesting when you think about it, because you looked at those categories, and it was. It was stacked with really popular songs and a lot of popular pop stars from this year. And I think when that happens and it's not to. Not to discredit. Not like us at all, like, but I think when that happens, votes really get split, and those are the times when, like, the one you maybe don't expect to win wins because it's like, oh, well, some people are gonna go Sabrina Carpenter. Some people are gonna go Taylor. Some.

[Rhiann]

Yeah.

[Fran]

And then it's like. And then that sneaky majority ends up being like, not like us.

[Noah]

I mean, Sabrina.

[Fran]

And things get spin.

[Noah]

But Not Like Us was like, the biggest song.

[Rhiann]

Yeah. I just think it was like a crazy.

[Fran]

I mean. No. I don't know. 100%. I. And like I said. But I think, like, if you were. If you. If that's what you're going off of. It's not what it. It's not what the award is based on.

[Noah]

It's not what the word is.

[Fran]

It's not what the award is based on. But, like, Espresso was like. You know what I'm saying? Like, if you're. But it's. But I really could make an argument for any of the songs. Yeah, for sure.

[Rhiann]

And that's why I think some people.

[Noah]

Wasn'T up for song. It wasn't a record of the year.

[Rhiann]

Yeah. And some people say the pop girls were snubbed. And like, you know, I see. I see that argument because there were so many great songs. But I don't think you could take away how good Not Like Us was. You know what I mean? So it's like. Yeah. Do I think when I was watching, I was like, oh, this is Espresso. Like, Espresso is winning this. Shocked that Kendrick won. But I love the song, so I'm not going to complain about it. You know, I. So many great songs in that category. That was.

[Fran]

I think Taylor. I think Taylor, you know, TTPD is a great album, and I love the album. But as far as, like, Straw, like, Fortnight to me isn't the strongest song that I would. And it was the single. So, like, makes sense that that's. This. That's what was nominated for those categories because it was the single that she put out. But I just don't like Fortnight to me doesn't compete with a lot of those other songs.

[Rhiann]

I agree.

[Fran]

In that category.

[Rhiann]

So last one that. The last award they give out at the show was album of the year, which was Beyonce.

[Noah]

You just did what the lady did.

[Rhiann]

I did. I. I did. I. I just.

[Noah]

Cowboy Carter.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Rhiann]

Well, she was probably nervous.

[Noah]

Oh, she definitely was.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Rhiann]

I mean, come on.

[Fran]

I mean, I said not. She's a firefighter.

[Rhiann]

Right. She's not out there presenting awards every day.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Rhiann]

I do speak on.

[Fran]

I also be.

[Rhiann]

So I should be able to Speak.

[Fran]

But I also be shitting my pants knowing that I'm about to hand an award to Beyonce.

[Rhiann]

Right. She probably was like, holy fuck, I'm about to hand her award to Beyonce. I can't even speak right now.

[Fran]

Speaking of, I did love that that Taylor did announce the country that was cool album category and then. And gave that award to Beyonce. I thought that was awesome.

[Rhiann]

Yeah, that was awesome. Anytime you could see those two interact is great, but Beyonce wins album of the year. Cowboy Carter is a fantastic album. And in this moment, Noah had texted a hilarious text to the group chat where he just.

[Fran]

I mean, Noah cleaned up.

[Rhiann]

He cleaned up.

[Noah]

It was my night.

[Fran]

It really was.

[Rhiann]

He said, truly, I feel tonight was about me. Yeah, that's what he texted.

[Fran]

And, you know, it really was. It really was. He. He dominated the Grammys. And happy for you, Noah.

[Rhiann]

Very happy for you, Noah. Do you have a speech prepared?

[Fran]

You'd like to thank those 13,000 voters. They really emphasize. I don't know what, like, they really emphasized.

[Noah]

Do you think they should? They should. The amount of people voting, percentage of votes.

[Fran]

I don't know. Like, do you think they kept doing that to really be like, guys, let's remember, it's 13,000 people. It's like, it's such a small, small amount of people.

[Noah]

Well, I think that's a lot to me.

[Fran]

I mean, the grand scheme of things.

[Noah]

The grand scheme. But, like, in my mind, it's always, like, a few hundred people.

[Rhiann]

Well, I thought that maybe they kept doing that to avoid people getting really angry at, like, some of their favorite artists not winning. Like, yeah, like. Like, Taylor did not win one award. Yeah.

[Noah]

And, you know, good look for her. She can go to the Grammys not winning anything.

[Rhiann]

Have a good time and have a great time. She was having a good look.

[Fran]

She was having a great time. I was like, this is why I fudgeing love her. She's champagne glass in hand, champagne bottle in the other, whooping it up for. Yeah, she's having a great time. Yeah, I loved it. Loved it.

[Rhiann]

How celebrated she is that she could sit there and have a fantastic night. And, you know, she's so used to performing for other people. It's nice for her to get to sit back and watch other performances.

[Fran]

Have a good night for her to have fun. Like, didn't have to worry about performing. She just presented and then, like, could.

[Rhiann]

Yeah.

[Noah]

For the presenting, because they kind of knew, like, you're not gonna have anything else to do.

[Fran]

Yeah, yeah, maybe it's possible.

[Rhiann]

But I also think, like, it, you know, if just because, you know, you think someone should win, it's not always going to be the outcome. And it is what it is. And I, I've seen a lot of people get really mad that she didn't win anything. But like, I don't think Taylor's mad. So I don't think everyone needs to get mad for Taylor, you know, Like, I think she's happy to be there, happy for her friends who are winning. I think everyone who won deserved to win. That's why they're there. So no reason to get up in arms about her not winning anything. She's, she's won so many likes, you know what I mean?

[Noah]

The hate for Beyonce is crazy to me. Like, yeah, she's just like, about her winning, like people being like, any other album should have won like over her. It's like why it was a great album.

[Fran]

I, it's, it's funny. It is like hate her. Yeah, it's a polarizing album. Which is weird because I, I thought it was. I don't know what's not to like about the album? Honestly, I love it. But I guess also if you're, I mean, if you're just like a die hard Beyonce fan or like a fan of like the earlier stuff, it's a different sound. So maybe you're, you don't love that or it's a different whatever. I think also just in this current climate, Pete Lean in the Jay Z a whole thing. Like, I think people are, are very iffy on. I think people right now in general.

[Noah]

I see a lot of people talking about like, oh, well, this is only because Jay Z like cried about her not winning.

[Fran]

Exactly. A lot of people.

[Noah]

That's not why they gave her the award.

[Rhiann]

No, no, they don't have to give an award to anybody they like.

[Noah]

It's just like Taylor showed up. Like people that kind of dispels like, oh, they know they're gonna win. That's the only reason.

[Fran]

If people wanna complain about like not liking Cowboy Carter, that's fine. There's plenty of people who also loved the album. So you can't. Like, it's not like it was universally disliked.

[Rhiann]

No, it's a great album. And yeah, your Taylor argument is like it. I think it does take away that nature for me a little bit where sometimes I believe that artists are only going because they know that they're going to win or they're told they're gonna win. Right. But Taylor was there and did not win, but had a spectacular time. Billie EILISH. Didn't win anything, but they were there having a great time and they all deserve to win. Like, they're there because they deserve to win. Everyone there, right? You right?

[Fran]

It's like everybody's a winner.

[Rhiann]

No, it's true, though. Like, everybody deserves to win. That's why they're there, you know, but unfortunately, there can only be. Only be one winner. But do you think Billie Eilish was crying for Beyonce or crying because she was upset she didn't win? I couldn't decide.

[Fran]

I. I felt like four.

[Noah]

You see, Phineas said.

[Fran]

Yeah, I just. Billy doesn't seem like. Billy doesn't. I mean, I don't know her, but she. That, like, doesn't seem like her in my mind that she will, like, cry about. About losing that to me. I felt like she was like, wow, what a moment for Beyonce. You know, I think so too, because.

[Rhiann]

I think everyone was crying, but Lady Gaga was sobbing for Beyonce.

[Fran]

Yeah, yeah.

[Rhiann]

And then of course, I had to.

[Noah]

Listen to each other was like one of the biggest songs too.

[Fran]

So it's like, yeah, yeah, 100.

[Noah]

That was a great performance.

[Fran]

And really the performances, 10 out of 10, all like, they were so good. Everybody crushed it, I thought between Sabrina's number, I thought was fantastic. The theatrics, the jokes. Like, she has that, like, old Hollywood glam that she's bringing back that I thought was so cute. Little tap she tap moment I was obsessed with.

[Rhiann]

She is a performer.

[Fran]

Yeah, she's a performer.

[Noah]

Broadway show.

[Fran]

Oh, my God.

[Rhiann]

So good.

[Fran]

But it's like, everybody Joshi was insane.

[Rhiann]

Toshi's performance was the fact that it went from Benson Boone, which, by the way, shout out to Nikki Glaser for getting that spot. Yeah, Benson Boone shirt.

[Fran]

Also when he. He, like, strokes JLo's shoulder. And I was like, wow. Okay, Benson.

[Rhiann]

The whole night, Matt kept calling JLo Benson Boone's girlfriend. And I was like. He was like, oh, Jlo and Benson Boone. And I was like, Just because he subtly strok. He was like, you never know, maybe she liked it, but.

[Fran]

And that guy can do a flips. And he did not just one, but two.

[Rhiann]

I saw a tweet that was like, you know what? If I could flip, I would make it everyone else's problem too.

[Fran]

And I agree, 100.

[Rhiann]

But it went from Benson Boone into Doi into Teddy Swims. I almost lost my goddamn mind. I was like, oh, my God. Like, I. I thought I was gonna go into cardiac arrest. I was so excited.

[Fran]

It was really so good.

[Rhiann]

But then they lost me With Jabousi. I hate that song.

[Fran]

I love that bar song.

[Noah]

Just makes me think of TikTok.

[Fran]

Here's the thing.

[Rhiann]

I hate that song.

[Fran]

The idea of it, like, the idea of the song and how it's been everywhere. Objectively, I understand why people wouldn't like it, but I. No matter where I am, what I'm doing, if that song comes on, I'm tapping my feet. It just happens. It just happens, everybody. It just happens every time, no matter what.

[Rhiann]

Yeah. I think Shaboozi has better songs than this.

[Fran]

He does. He totally does. But I can't stand this song. Catchy song.

[Rhiann]

The moment I heard it, I didn't like it. Like, the moment people started talking about, like, you know, that a bar song. And I heard, I was like, I. I think you were in the car once. Now I remember we were going somewhere and we were in the Uber and someone said, put on a bar song.

[Fran]

Tommy.

[Rhiann]

Tommy was like, put on this song.

[Noah]

You were like, discussing.

[Rhiann]

I put it on and I was like, I despise this song because I just think, you know, classic. Everybody in the club getting tipsy. You know, I think back to that. But, yeah, I do not like the song.

[Fran]

And catchy as hell. Cynthia brought tears to my eyes saying that rendition of Fly Me to the.

[Noah]

Moon was Give her the Oscar. And I've never seen the movie. Probably will never watch Molly. She's crazy.

[Fran]

No, she deserves the. Give her that, please. She. She. Now with the controversy over Best Actress. Yeah, everything that has happened, we don't have to dig into it too much right now, but with. With. With Carla and past tweets and posts and everything, it'll actually be a disgrace. Even more so if Amelia Perez wins a ton of awards at the Oscars. And anyway, also, yeah, Cynthia, like, oh, my God, my. We were all crying in my apartment. Like, it was like, so good.

[Noah]

Miss One note.

[Fran]

Oh, my God, She. And it's like, she's so talented because she takes these classic songs and then she just puts her own spin on them that are so respectful to the original, but then also, like, elevated to the. To the way that her vocal range is. It was beautiful.

[Rhiann]

Just, she's a professional.

[Noah]

A lot of people are talking about, like, why she ended up sitting with Taylor Swift.

[Fran]

Apparently, she couldn't find her seat.

[Noah]

Taylor just told her to see her.

[Fran]

Yeah, apparently she couldn't find her seat. So Taylor just, like, scooched over and was, like, sitting. Sit down next to me. Cynthia is a very tiny human. So they recreated space. Yep, yep. I thought that was very. It was. That was very funny. Taylor was really enjoying her night. Having fun. Having fun with pals and laughs.

[Noah]

Did you see Sabrina and Olivia get, like, embracing each other?

[Fran]

No. Are you. Is that real?

[Noah]

Yeah. There's a video online. They take in the background, but they're, like, hugging and then talking for a while.

[Rhiann]

Damn, not us.

[Noah]

It was up. I saw it this morning, but Taylor's, like, in the foreground, but she's not, like, part of it. But everyone's talking about that. Olivia and Sabrina seemingly.

[Fran]

Oh, yeah, I see it.

[Noah]

But I didn't see Olivia talk to Taylor.

[Fran]

No, I don't think they'll. I don't think they'll ever talk. There was no one.

[Noah]

Yeah.

[Fran]

Wow. Yeah, I see it. You know, good for the nice.

[Rhiann]

That's nice. Showing. As they should, because, you know, girls coming together.

[Fran]

Exactly. And look at them at the Grammys. Absolutely crushing it.

[Rhiann]

Right. They're probably like, what do we care about. About this past drama? Seriously. What's his face? I don't even remember his name.

[Fran]

Right.

[Noah]

Oh, my God.

[Rhiann]

The guy from High School Musical Music, Joshua Bassett. Like, who's even talking about him? We're talking about them at the Grammys.

[Noah]

Yeah.

[Fran]

You know who's. He's sitting at home watching the tv. Deep breathing him.

[Rhiann]

Yeah.

[Fran]

He's like, oh, wow, that's such a nice moment. I didn't see that. That's lovely. But no, across the board, all the performances are really.

[Noah]

Lady gagawan made me, like, close to tears.

[Fran]

Oh, my God. There was. And Chris Martin doing the Liam. You know, the Liam Payne moment that had me crying. Too bad. I kind of. And I know that there are a lot of people to remember and everyone deserves a moment. I did think that there was gonna maybe. I didn't think that there. I thought there was maybe gonna be a little more of a moment for.

[Noah]

Liam maybe if I carry in.

[Fran]

I thought, like, maybe Chris Martin would have a little. A little One Direction. Like a little something. I don't know. Not. Not like.

[Noah]

It is tough a full performance thing to like, where when you're doing an.

[Rhiann]

Immemorial and then you make something about only one person.

[Fran]

No, absolutely. Absolutely. But that was just my own. Something I would have liked to have seen. Maybe just a personal choice, but no, that was beautifully done by Chris Martin. And there was a weekend performance as well that just kind of got thrown in there, which was interesting. There's a whole. The Grammys. He said shit about the Grammys, and then that was at the Grammys. President or somebody. Somebody from the recording academy had this whole speech about the we. I honestly, like, was not listening. Like, it's just.

[Noah]

I tuned out. Yeah.

[Fran]

Kind of. And then. And then the weekend performed and I. It just. It's just so hit or miss for me sometimes with him on if, like, the performance reels me in. But, like, the first five seconds, I was like, this one's not for me.

[Rhiann]

I mean, the first five seconds I was like, yes. The weekend. His sexy music. Yeah, I, I listen. You guys know I love the Weeknd's music. I think he's got some sexy songs. Yeah, it took a turn fast where I was like, okay, enough.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Rhiann]

You know what I mean? Like, yeah, first five seconds, I was like, oh, yeah, yeah, it's the weekend.

[Noah]

The Grammys. When he did the blinding lights, like, and he was like, walking.

[Rhiann]

It was a Super Bowl.

[Noah]

No, no, there was. Maybe I'm thinking of a different one. He's like, walking down a street and.

[Rhiann]

Then he did the super bowl, blinding lights. And everyone hated it because it was very, very.

[Fran]

Or maybe it wasn't blinding lights, VMAs or something.

[Rhiann]

It wasn't blind or I don't know. But he did the super bowl and everyone hated it because they got really dizzy. But that performance took it. I was like, this is apparently the.

[Noah]

End for the, like, the Weeknd. Like, this is his last album as the Weeknd.

[Rhiann]

Yeah, he's going to able now.

[Fran]

He's going back to Abel.

[Rhiann]

I think he's going back to Abel, but interesting. I love the Weeknd's music. So I was excited, and then I was not excited because I didn't think it was good. Alicia Keys. Alicia Keys was presented the big award of the night from Queen Latifah, which was just iconic back to back, you know, Queen Latifah giving an award to Alicia Keys. Very well deserved for Alicia Keys. She is an icon. She is so cool. Like, so cool. That's how I. I define Alicia Keys.

[Fran]

She had the coolest. Really? And her, you know, her family, she had her son up there with her.

[Rhiann]

It was amazing. And a moment to honor Alicia Keys.

[Fran]

Yeah, that was a big revelation. Joe was like, alicia Keys is married.

[Rhiann]

To Swiss P. Yes. Yeah.

[Fran]

It's just that I was like, yeah. And I was like, long time too. Yeah, like, they're going strong. He was like, wow, that's so nice.

[Rhiann]

They got a good thing going.

[Fran]

But, yeah, great appearances. I mean, Diana. Diana Ross was right after that, I thought. I loved. I thought Charlie XCX performances was Was awesome, too. Very, very obviously, very her. And the song was really cool. Billy and Phineas sang together, and they had old, like, you know, childhood pictures of the two of them on the back, which I thought was really sweet. Chapel did Pink Pony Club, which I was fucking pumped. She did Ping Pony Club. Also. Nobody loves Pink Pony Club more than my husband, like, singing at the top of his life. It was really. I have a video I'll show to after it was that we were crying, laughing. He just loves Pink Pony Club.

[Rhiann]

He's just in it.

[Fran]

He just loves it.

[Rhiann]

Remember, he knew that trivia question about Chapel Roan's what color her dress was on the album.

[Fran]

We got it wrong.

[Rhiann]

When Joe was in the audience, like, this is.

[Fran]

It's this color. Yeah, yeah. The funniest thing is, like, there were certain songs that you would listen to and liked. And then for the first time ever. Cause I bought the vinyl and I played it, and it was like, his first time listening to the, like album in order, and, like, halfway through, he was like, oh, my God, these are all on the same album. This album's amazing rocks. So very, very enjoyable. But really, the showstoppers all around, amazing performance.

[Rhiann]

Grammys gets an A. A plus.

[Fran]

It does the only thing I really, really wish that they made. And also, I thought Chapel and Sabrina were, like, performing together. Was that a rumor that happened?

[Noah]

I don't know what happened.

[Fran]

I don't know. Yeah, maybe that was just a rumor that spread, but I don't. They. They had to have asked, and it didn't work out because there's no way that CBS isn't asking Miley and Beyonce to do that song.

[Noah]

Such a missed opportunity.

[Fran]

Like, there's really. There's no way. Especially with them winning. Like, if they had agreed to perform, that award would have been during the show. Like, they would have given that award after the show.

[Noah]

They're never gonna perform, so I don't know what happened.

[Fran]

I don't know what would happen, but my God, I like, I really wish they sang two Most Wanted together.

[Rhiann]

Yeah. I don't know what happened there.

[Fran]

She is going on tour now, so maybe Miley will make a couple surprise appearances if you get lucky.

[Noah]

A lot of people were joking that Miley won a country award before a country Grammy award before her dad.

[Fran]

Oh, that's. You know, I feel bad laughing about joking about him right now.

[Rhiann]

Really just a shot at Billy, right? I mean, he's clearly going through it.

[Fran]

After we talked about it last.

[Noah]

No, no, I know. I mean, but he's kind of like.

[Fran]

No, I mean he's having Because I'm serious issues.

[Rhiann]

Like he has some issues.

[Fran]

Big time issues for sure. But my God, what if it would. Yeah. Beyonce as all the performances are amazing. There wasn't as many like people singing together as, you know. I feel like a lot of times Grammys, they like put random people together to sing or do stuff. There's a few but not. But gosh, Beyonce and Miley would have been amazing.

[Noah]

I know maybe that happened.

[Rhiann]

Listen, we have to appreciate what we were given and it was fantastic.

[Fran]

Agreed.

[Rhiann]

Great show. Great show.

[Fran]

Great show. A plus really one of the best Grammys in a in a while. It's really, really, really.

[Rhiann]

It was just a great year of music.

[Fran]

Yeah, that's.

[Rhiann]

That wraps up the great year of music. That was 2024.

[Fran]

So true.

[Rhiann]

Hopefully we can have a Great one into 2025.

[Fran]

So true.

[Rhiann]

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[Fran]

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[Rhiann]

All right, let's get into the weekly Watch Report where we talk about the things we watch this week. Weekly Watch Report on Monday. Weekly Watch Report on Monday. Weekly Watch Report on Monday. Weekly Watch Report on Monday. If only I could sing like the people at the Grammys. Okay. I started Southern Hospitality because people have been hyping this show up.

[Fran]

I did as well.

[Rhiann]

And let me tell you, different seasons we did. I just. I just jumped straight to season three because that's the most current season. And I was like, shit, I want to be caught up. Solid. I'm really enjoying it. I'll give it a B. Yeah, it's a. It's solid.

[Fran]

You know, I started with season two because I will say I did watch a lot of season one and I didn't love it, so it kind of fell off for me. And I didn't jump back in when the second season came out. But we were after, like, doing watch happens live and seeing some people around and hearing everyone, and honestly, we've gotten a ton of dms from people being like, guys, hospitality is so good. So jumped in. I just started with the second season. I watched, like, the first five episodes of the second season. And honestly, it was so interesting, too, because there's so much Sally lore in. In Southern Hospitality Season 2 that I was like, wait, this is flying under the radar. So much like, Sally just moved over to Southern Charm and is involved with the guys and the drama and the. And Gaston. But I'm watching now back to season two of Southern Hospitality. She's hooking up with Joe Bradley. She's. She's. But also hooking up with Gaston at the same time. I was like, oh, my God, here's Gaston. Here's Sally. There's so much and so much going on. It's also connected.

[Rhiann]

There's so much background information. I may watch the second season just to. But I'm very good. I'm very interested in season three. I'm all caught up. I watched all the episodes. I'll give it a be. Watch Southern Charm this week. I'll give it a C minus. Like, I don't know. I think these. I think it's kind of boring. These episodes are. It's repetitive, I guess, because a lot of it that's playing out on the show is, like, stuff we just have known in the media.

[Fran]

Like, yeah, yeah, right now. Yep.

[Rhiann]

Um, actually, I'll give it a C. I don't want to give a C minus because that's. That feels too Low, but I'll give it a C. Not that exciting.

[Fran]

I have to really. Like, we. Hopefully we see Craig soon. Watching him offer Austin money for the podcast, I was like, what the fuck are you doing?

[Rhiann]

We really have to.

[Fran]

Watching him. I was like, no, Craig. No, Craig.

[Rhiann]

Yeah.

[Fran]

And it was like, I was like, oh. Oh, gosh. I did not. I did not like that at all. And then the JT and Vanita, like, fake. Like, I find that to be so fake. I don't know what is going on there.

[Rhiann]

Come on, you can't be attracted to jt, Right?

[Fran]

And also, like, JT continues to really weird me out because you're telling me he's doing this whole thing. He's showing up, he's flirting with Vanita.

[Rhiann]

Mm.

[Fran]

They're like, they have this chemistry. He. She invites him over dinner, she goes, they make it all the way through dinner. And then he's like, by the way, I'm. I'm seeing somebody. Like, I have a girlfriend. I'm like, what?

[Rhiann]

Bizarre.

[Fran]

What? What? Jt?

[Rhiann]

I have no patience for him, which is another reason why I don't love it because I really just don't have too much.

[Fran]

It's too much.

[Rhiann]

JT Traders amazing episode.

[Fran]

So good.

[Noah]

Incredible.

[Rhiann]

Like, th. This show is just so good.

[Fran]

So good.

[Rhiann]

I'm gonna give this an a. Another fantastic roundtable. I see people, like, pissed about Boston Rob and I'm just like, welcome to the gamer community. Because Boston Rob knows how to play. You cannot get mad at Boston Rob for knowing how to play the game and the others not knowing. This is what's going to happen when you throw together people who are gamers versus people who are just real housewives or have been on reality shows that have never played, like a competition show. You're going to have people that know how to manipulate and play the game in which master class, which really was a master class at the right time. And also, you know what it was. Not only was it a masterclass from Rob, but also just a complete fuck up from Wes. Because if Wes didn't fuck up, Boston Rob's gone there. You know what I mean? But Wes fucked up so royally.

[Fran]

Yeah, he did that.

[Rhiann]

Wes has an off putting attitude and that is what made people go, yeah, now you're gone. Even though Derek was right. Like, Derek's like, we're all gonna look like idiots. And Derek's right.

[Fran]

Like, Derek was.

[Rhiann]

Derek doesn't look like an idiot. No, the rest of them do.

[Fran]

And Derek really, I thought, did such a good job of explaining his case and explaining why they should go for Rob. And I really think that all Wes needed to do in that scenario after Rob. After Rob tried to spin it back to Wesley, all Wes needed to do was double down on what Derek was saying. Like, I think if in that moment, Wes was like, no, guys, let's go back to what Derek is saying. I really think Derek's right on this. Like, if. If he did that, I think everybody would have gone, Rob. But you're right. Like, he went on this weird route of, like, oh, like, I'll take. Like, I'll take you all out, like, if you come for me, like, whatever. And that sat wrong with everybody, and it ended up being Wes who got sent home. So really, I think he's. He's probably, like, looking back on that because it was like. And you could see the people who did understand, they're like, no, Derek totally had the strongest argument. But Boston Rob, man, you let him talk. And that's what happens. People get roped in. They're like, kind of going more with what he's saying. And Wes. Wes needed to go back at him stronger and team up with Derek and, like, push on that. And. And he didn't. And that was.

[Rhiann]

Yeah, that was.

[Fran]

That was his downfall.

[Rhiann]

Wes, that up royally, because Boston Rob was talking a lot, but his argument didn't really make a ton of sense. Yeah, it's just like, when you start talking a lot, people are like, okay. You know what I mean? He's. He. He started convincing them. So.

[Fran]

Mvp. I love her so much. Dolores. Dolores. And she really just cracks me up so much, too, because she, like her. Her confessional being like, you know, I really don't think Tom got a lot of attention when he was younger. You know, like, it's just like, so good, so funny. She's like a Tom Sandoval coming for her. She's like, nothing's better than watching Dolores put Tom Sandoval in his place, because Tom Sandoval has never dealt with a woman like Dolores.

[Rhiann]

Yeah, right. But they have to stop just throwing votes out just because they're mad at people. Like, you're wasting votes by just being like, oh, this person came for me. I'm voting for them. Like, it's a waste of a vote, but I'll give that away.

[Fran]

And we did get to meet some of the traders last week. We didn't really get to talk about it, but we did. Yeah, we did a little. A press junket that they were having in the city, and we chatted with Brittany and Nikki and Dolores and Wes and Bob Harper and Dylan Efron, which was amazing. Loved all the. Everybody's so sweet and so nice. We're just having fun, chatting it up about the show and how everything's gone down. I was. I was. I was sad about Bob Harper, too.

[Rhiann]

I know that night.

[Fran]

Oh, dang. Right. Right. Then just getting murdered sucks. Like, yeah.

[Rhiann]

Do anything. You just get kicked off.

[Fran]

Exactly. I mean, the. That's going on with Carolyn and Danielle is out of this world. When they got up in the turret and they were just like, kiss. They're like. I feel like they get up there, they remove their hoods, and they're like, what the. Man?

[Rhiann]

It's amazing.

[Noah]

Rob's faces.

[Rhiann]

Every time they all get back together, you're. They just want to rip each other.

[Fran]

Rob's face was so funny. And then. And then they were doing like, Carolyn did it again, and it's just gonna keep happening. Danielle started doing it again.

[Noah]

We have to get Danielle to Rob.

[Fran]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Rhiann]

I mean, they have to get Danielle. Yeah, yeah, they have to get Danielle. Danielle is making herself look really suspicious at all times.

[Fran]

Yeah. But they have got to be on, like, they got to get on Danielle for sure. For sure. That's. That's got to be coming.

[Rhiann]

I'm giving that an A great episode, and that's everything I watched.

[Fran]

I will give it an A as well. I'll give Southern Charm a C plus, I'll give Southern hospitality. Now I'm watching Southern Hospitality season two. I watched season two episodes one to five. I'll give it a B. I'm enjoying it. I think there's some good characters on. On there, for sure. I'm very intrigued by Maddie, and Maddie is, like, such a Miley Cyrus vibe to me. I know everybody, like, says that about her, but, like, her voice, her look, everything. Totally see it. There's, like, There's a lot of cheating. There's a lot of. There's a lot of cheating with these. With these young folks in Charleston.

[Rhiann]

It appears it's like OG Vanderpump.

[Fran]

Yeah. Yeah. Which you. Juicy reality TV show. I watched the part two Salt Lake City reunion. That was great. I thought, like, the moment that they had with Mary talking about her. Her family, and Robert Jr. I thought that that was really powerful, and everybody was able to, you know, talk and share their experiences. And the other women were like, oh, I watched the episode with my. With my kids, and, like, it really opened up a conversation, which I thought was really nice. Meredith is an absolutely unbelievable human Being just like, she will turn at a moment's notice where all of a sudden it seems like everything's fine. And then she's like, I'm going to leave. I'm out of here. And you're like, all right, Merit. Like, Andy's like, okay, like, don't leave. Like, it's like, you know, she's got her notes app of all the. You've called me this and this and this and this. It's just like, Meredith lives in her own world. And the only time she really. Like other housewives, they'll get fired up about other people's drama. You know, they'll insert themselves and like, whatever. Meredith is just like you. You talk about me. That's it. That's.

[Rhiann]

I'm.

[Fran]

That's it. It's the whole thing. I'll give that a B. It was good. And then caught up on Beverly Hills as well with the most recent episode. They're hanging out at Garcelle's beach house. They're having a lovely time. Seems like Kyle and Dorit maybe are burying the hatchet a little bit. We'll see. Not. Not really a crazy episode. I'll give that a C as well. It's kind of been smooth. Standard right down the. Right down the center. Special Forces 7 and 8. We're right about at the. At the end here where it gets. It gets tough. Sadly, we lost two more girls. This was the end for Kyla and. And Christy, which they really put their all in. It fought hard. But when they get to, like, the endurance stuff, you're just. If you just fall over, like, you can't keep up. So it's like, they didn't leave. Like, Kyla was like, I'm done. She left Christy, like, just couldn't quite make it, which I'm sure, you know, frustrating for her. But the other two girls, kudos to them. Kayla Killer, Nicole is a beast. And Alana Blanchard, also doing incredibly well. So it's pretty impressive. I'll give that a B minus. B minus. And the last thing I watched was, oh, Levi. And All Stars. Not the last thing I watched. Love Island All Stars, basically. Caught up.

[Rhiann]

God.

[Fran]

I mean, I am. I'm caught up. God bless. I can sue. She just brings a level of drama and theatrics that really the show needs. I'm sorry. Like, she. I've been. I've been seeing more of the. I never really watched the unseen bits, but I see them now on TikTok all the time and I'm like, damn, maybe I should Be watching because they're really funny.

[Rhiann]

Yeah.

[Fran]

I think Casey is hysterical. I think Casey so funny. But there's a moment with that can sue where she's going through this trauma with Curtis in these recent episodes, and she's like off talking to Luca and she's crying. She looks at Luca, she goes, help me, Luca. Help me. It was like the most dramatic. Like, help me. It was. I. I could. I. She knows I burst out laughing. Like, it was like, not supposed to be funny. But I think Curtis got. I think, like, I was like, oh, my God. Curse. I was like, is Curtis about to do the exact same thing he did the first time he was on the show?

[Rhiann]

It really felt like what I think is gonna happen.

[Fran]

He was really. I was like, oh, my God. Because they brought in this new girl, Danielle, who's stunning, by the way. She's from the third season. She was on it very briefly. I don't really remember her at all, but she seems awesome. And Curtis is definitely intrigued. And Curtis is kicking himself in the foot for saying that he was closed off when he probably shouldn't have said that. And my God, it's. It's season. It's season five all over again for Curtis. He's doing.

[Rhiann]

Not surprising.

[Fran]

It's absolutely insane. I'll give it a B plus. I think it's really good. There was elimination recently too, where it felt like they made the right decisions with people going home. So that was good. I'm hoping Elma has a good connection with the guy that came in. I think she's amazing. I love her. And. And then I watched the Apprentice, the movie, which I thought was really good. I wanted to watch it because they're obviously both nominated Sebastian Stan and Jeremy Strong for their performances in it, and they were both really, really good. Jeremy Strong really blew me away. I thought he was great. Trump really well as well, but I thought Jeremy Strong was really strong.

[Rhiann]

Do you think he has a chance?

[Fran]

I. I mean, my God, it's. It's. It's close between him and. And I kind of heard the main character in it. Yeah, pretty much. Pretty much. And he just. He's really, really good. I would give it a B. It's really, like, very solid and, you know, fast paced. It's about the early New York lives and, you know, Jeremy Strong plays a lawyer that basically, so they say, like, you know, made Trump and like, made him into the guy he was. Yeah, basically. Yeah. No, like, literally. So, yeah, the fantastic performances. So I under. Really. I wanted to see it for that because of the nominations. And that's everything I watched.

[Noah]

Okay. I think I brought this up in the last episode, but I started watching that show Paradise. The first three episodes were out, which I really like. It's very losty. Like, Lost. Well, I don't wanna say too much because I went in knowing nothing, and then the turns that it took were fun, not knowing what it was about. But James Marsden, love, he's great.

[Fran]

Yeah. Yeah. I'm gonna watch it. I'm gonna watch it.

[Noah]

Yeah. I feel like it'll turn into one of those shows where people are, like, speculating on the whole Internet. Start speculating.

[Rhiann]

Right.

[Noah]

I'll give that a B. Like, solid. I watched this movie called you'd hurt My Feelings. It's with Julia Louis Dreyfus.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Noah]

A couple years ago.

[Rhiann]

Saw that. Yeah.

[Noah]

Which I was like, did I see this movie before? When I, like, watched the trailer and then I watched it. I don't think I saw it otherwise. I just completely forgot. But it was good. It was a solid, like, kind of heart. Heartwarming movie. I guess I'll give it a B. Yep. Traders Season 3, the last episode. A. Yeah.

[Rhiann]

So good.

[Noah]

My thing is, which is kind of what Boston Rob said when he was here is like, the challenges are the least interesting thing to me. Like, I. I'll be like, on my phone, I'm just like, get me to the house.

[Rhiann]

Once they get to the castle, phone goes down. But during the challenges, I'm kind of.

[Noah]

Like, when that song turns on, the song that they play, like, when they're walking to the roundtable, I get hyped every time. Severance. This past episode season two of, I think, episode 3B plus, like, the whole episode, it's like the cliff. There's a big cliffhanger, which I'm excited for everybody.

[Fran]

Like, now everybody.

[Noah]

This is turning into, like.

[Fran]

You have to watch. Yeah, you have to watch. I was at dinner with some of my brother's friends Sunday for his birthday, and everyone. They were all talking.

[Noah]

It's everyone.

[Fran]

They were like, you gotta watch it.

[Noah]

And I would say, like, if you're. If it's slow in the beginning of season one, just power through because it really picks up. That's how I. I didn't watch it for a while because I'm like, this seems boring. But, yeah, I watched Baby Girl. D. Horrible.

[Fran]

Oh, horrible. Okay.

[Rhiann]

Wow.

[Fran]

All right.

[Noah]

I don't know if you guys have different opinions on me.

[Fran]

I didn't think it was, like, horrible. I didn't think it was D. Worry.

[Rhiann]

It Was D worthy.

[Noah]

It was awful. Let me just say. No, I. I don't know what I expected. I almost thought maybe, like, oh, maybe it'll be funny because it's so ridiculous. It was like, I don't know. Maybe it's not. It's not for me.

[Fran]

Yeah. I. Yeah, I'm not. I'm not. I'm not really sure if it, like, it landed for you.

[Rhiann]

You called it a Nicole Kidman passion project.

[Noah]

That was in the cool Passion project.

[Rhiann]

I'm sure.

[Fran]

I thought she was great.

[Noah]

A ball filming that.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Noah]

I just. I'm like, I don't know. I don't know. I'm just like, what was the point of this?

[Fran]

It would have fallen in, like, his.

[Noah]

Character in like a.

[Fran]

Like a C plus B minus world for me, I think.

[Noah]

I don't know. His character weirded me out and, like, was. I was confused about, like, what was going on with him. She's obviously clearly, like, insane Antonio Banderas. Like, he's the most random cast.

[Fran]

Yeah. The. This movie was not made for me. The, like, the. I think, like, the undertones of the movie were not really.

[Noah]

Yeah.

[Fran]

Was not. Was not coming through for you.

[Noah]

Definitely not.

[Fran]

That's fine. Yeah.

[Noah]

And then just in between Trader season three episodes, I've been watching Trader Season two.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Noah]

So I'm. I've watched the first eight episodes of Trader Season two. I love it.

[Fran]

I mean, first eight is a lot.

[Noah]

The first few.

[Fran]

It's like almost the whole season.

[Noah]

I was like, oh, I don't like this cast as much as season three because you get. You get connected and attached. But Pilot Pete is awesome.

[Rhiann]

He's awesome.

[Fran]

Pilot Pete was so, so good.

[Noah]

And the way that everyone is talking about him, like, he's acting like he's in the mafia.

[Rhiann]

Like. Yeah, no, he was so good.

[Noah]

And he's smart.

[Fran]

Like, yeah.

[Noah]

Some of the things he's doing, I'm like, this is really smart. Like, enough where, like, real gamers didn't think that he could.

[Fran]

I know that we, like, laugh and what. You know, Lab, Pilot P and the whole thing. Let's not. The. The nickname is he is a pilot. Like, you know, like, he says he does fly well.

[Rhiann]

That's why Dylan Efron is giving a little pilot Pete energy.

[Fran]

100.

[Noah]

From what I've seen so far, he's not on Pilot Pete's level of, like, gaming.

[Fran]

Righty. Yeah.

[Noah]

Pete is, like, running the show and, like, setting trap. That trap that he said.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Rhiann]

Yeah, he was great.

[Noah]

I'll give that an A as well, like, yeah, I think traders just in general. I don't know where I've been because I remember, like, I remember you guys talking about it now. Like, I remember when Joe Manchinello was here.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Noah]

And you guys were talking about it. I'm like, why didn't I watch this when it was airing? Because this is so good stuff. That's all I watch.

[Fran]

I just remember that I do have one more thing to add to my list. And I. And I cannot believe I didn't say it because it really, really made my week one Chicago big crossover event. This is the. This is the creme de la creme of the Chicago moments where they do it maybe once a season. And it's where all. It's a movie, It's a feature length film. It's real. And you go in one episode to the next. All three episodes connect into one long story.

[Rhiann]

It was like when the Disney Channel shows crossover.

[Fran]

Yep. Everybody's all in the.

[Rhiann]

I know what you're talking about.

[Fran]

Yep. And my God, it's always great. And this one had to be on the edge of my seat. There was, you know, one of the. Somebody got shot. It was like, is she going to be okay? Is she not? They were trapped in the. Down in the subway and are they going to get the guy? It was a very intense crossover. Very good. I will give it a B plus solid grade. Very. Yeah. Like the.

[Rhiann]

For the crossover of the.

[Fran]

Oh, my God. When I opened up Peacock on Thursday, like already in anticipation for Traders because Chicago Wednesdays. It airs on NBC on Wednesday. But normally, like, I'm, you know, I'm a Peacock gal and I watch everything on Peacock and I open the app and it was the first thing giant, like the one shot one Chicago cross crossover event. I was like, yes. And it was like, victory. Oh my God. It was like 7:30. So I was like, oh, man. Amazing. I'm gonna watch this and then I'll wait. Like I'll be a little late to Traders, but that'll be okay.

[Rhiann]

You'll lead right in. Oh, that's spectacular.

[Fran]

It was a better feeling. Another thing was better too, because Joe was going to play basketball and he was like, oh, I think we may pop over for a drink after basketball. And I was like, take your time.

[Rhiann]

I got everything.

[Fran]

I was like, honey, take your time. It's the one Chicago crossover event. He was like, oh, God. He was like, how long is that on? I was like, two hours.

[Rhiann]

I'm stacked and ready to go.

[Fran]

It's like I got a full Movie to watch. My movie is on. Please don't disturb me.

[Rhiann]

Yeah. Oh, my God. That's such a good feeling, having. Having shows back to back. Oh, my God. It was.

[Fran]

It was amazing. It was amazing. All right. That had to add that in.

[Rhiann]

All right.

[Fran]

All right.

[Rhiann]

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[D]

Thank you so much for having me.

[Rhiann]

We've been wanting you to come on this show for years now. So we're. We're happy you made it today.

[D]

Well, I'm. I'm stoked to be here. I'm honored.

[Fran]

Yeah. Seriously. It's funny because it's like when you have people that are on the list, and when it finally comes through, we're like, yes.

[Rhiann]

Like, it's been. It's been seven years.

[Fran]

Put on the list for.

[D]

What was I. What was I doing for seven years that was more important than this?

[Rhiann]

You're book. Seriously.

[Fran]

Right, Right. Well, yeah, that is. That is you're on Call her Daddy. You know, we're all, all the amazing things, but we're super excited for season two of the Recruit. How are you feeling going into a second season? You're, you know, you play a lawyer, CIA lawyer, who, you know, would think can't do all the action packed stuff, but you have to do all the action packed stuff.

[D]

Yeah, I know, it's just really funny. Like, I have no training whatsoever in real life or as the character Owen. I'm excited for the second season. It's out now. So today, Today it just came out and it's cool. I feel like when you do the first season of a show, you really are just stumbling. Sometimes you're just stumbling around. You don't really know the exact tone. Right. You've never done it before. So you're creating something actively with everyone and everybody might have a different kind of idea of what the show is, but then you finish it and you get it and you put it out and you get feedback on what works and what doesn't. And so the first season is really setting the table, figuring out the tone, the rules of engagement and the world. And then the second season, you get to play in it, I think, and have a lot more fun and lean into the aspects that people really enjoyed. And that's what we did. So the second season is like the first season, but with adrenaline and way more action.

[Rhiann]

Yeah, yeah, very funny. Do you feel like in the second season now you feel more comfortable with like acting as your part? Like you said the first one, you're scrambling around the second one. Do you feel like you've more become that person?

[D]

I think so, yeah. I've spent more time, spent more time with them and. And it's definitely a little bit easier. I would say, though, towards the. By the time we finished the first episode of season one, it kind of settled. I was like, ah, that's who this guy is. You know, you better find it, I think.

[Rhiann]

Right.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Rhiann]

Do you think if you, you know, and you did get some practice and help with the CIA, Right. So, like if you found yourself in a conversation, a deep conversation, you think you can hold your own and pretend.

[D]

For a little bit, make somebody think that maybe I'm.

[Rhiann]

Yeah.

[D]

I have spoken with, since then, I've spoken with ex CIA people. Like, I spoke with a case officer and I just started asking him questions and he kind of looked at me like how I would. Like, how do you know? I was like, I'm an actor, please don't kill me.

[Rhiann]

Right you know, our secrets.

[Fran]

Like, anybody who plays, like, a, you know, their TV doctor and they get. People ask them for real medical advice, and they're like, no, I know you think I'm a doctor, but I really don't ask me for medical advice.

[D]

At what point. At what point do you become an expert? Like, I feel like. Was it Hugh Laurie that did House?

[Fran]

Yes.

[D]

So, like, Hugh Laurie probably would trust his medical.

[Fran]

Right.

[Rhiann]

I think maybe, like, season three.

[D]

Yeah.

[Fran]

You know, I mean, Ellen Pompeo. I'm like, Grey's Anatomy. I'm like, you're a doctor. You're a doctor. They should.

[Rhiann]

When she, like, resigns from Grey's Anatomy, they should give her her degree.

[Fran]

Yeah, right.

[Rhiann]

So they should, like, have a ceremony.

[D]

An honorary 26 seasons.

[Fran]

Yeah, exactly.

[Rhiann]

In 2050, she gets her degree.

[D]

She honestly could. With that amount of time doing the show, she could have gotten a doctorate degree in the.

[Rhiann]

That's true.

[Fran]

Like, five times over. And you got to be on location this season, actually, like, at CIA headquarters. You were in South Korea. What was that like?

[D]

Oh, amazing. It's rare that you get to shoot at the CIA. In fact, all the background there were CIA, because otherwise you have to clear. Yeah, 50 or 100 people.

[Fran]

Right, right.

[D]

They don't want to clear civilians. So they did this really cool. They did a raffle. I don't know if it's really cool. I think it's cool. They were like, hey, would anybody want to be a supporting actor in the Recruit for season two? And so many people were like, oh, yeah, we like that show. We'd like to. That they had to do a raffle where people would buy tickets, and then they, like.

[Fran]

Anyway, obviously, it's. There's a lot going on at the CIA, but, like, that's got to be a fun. Like.

[D]

Okay, it was. It was a Saturday right there.

[Rhiann]

Like, you get to be in a TV show. A little rap was actually.

[D]

It was actually. It was surprising, right, because, yeah, it was a Saturday. It was a weekend. But I feel like the CIA would work on weekends as well as institutions.

[Rhiann]

That you think they do. Now I'm hearing that they don't. It's, like, a little concerning. They're filming a TV show on their Saturday.

[D]

What do you guys do? But we got. No, they. We got to. We did. We shot at the CIA, but we also shot at the State Department, which was really cool. And to do both those things. And then Korea. Yeah, we went to Korea. I got to go to night markets. And we, like, went out and. Tao, yo, who plays Jin Kyun on the show. He took me and some of the cast to his favorite pork barbecue place.

[Rhiann]

That sounds amazing.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[D]

So good.

[Rhiann]

That sounds incredible.

[Fran]

Was that your first time in South Korea or you've been there before? Yeah.

[Rhiann]

What's like the nightlife scene over there?

[D]

Radical. Yeah, they have. They have gagnam. I think that's how you pronounce it. Like from whooping.

[Fran]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Rhiann]

I was gonna say that. I don't want to be wrong.

[D]

It's like the equivalent of, like, their Beverly Hills. So it's kind of. They have, like, Gangnam and then they have. They have different districts. They have a very touristy bar like district. Yeah, that's. That's more like Key West. It feels like, you know, like Times Square.

[Rhiann]

Think of all, like, the touristy places.

[D]

Dime Square now, I suppose, as it turns into a little bit more of a Soho and. And yeah, so it's. There's just a lot of young people out wanting to have fun and. Yeah, it's wonderful. I had a great time.

[Rhiann]

Yeah, that sounds awesome.

[Fran]

That's really cool. And you got to do a little jump onto Exo Kitty.

[D]

Yeah, yeah. They shot in South Korea, and I got to go and hang out with Anna. And that was. That was cool. That was a little scary, but it was.

[Rhiann]

I saw you say that, that it was a little scary. Why?

[D]

Yeah, because, I don't know, you don't want to mess it up, you know?

[Fran]

Right, right. Because you have every girl who, like, even just popping up in the trailer, everyone's like, ah, Peter. Yeah, exactly.

[D]

You're like, oh, God, if they. What if I ruin it? You know? No, but it was. It was wonderful. And Anna's amazing. Yeah, she's so sweet.

[Fran]

It's a really cute show. So I'm sure they were happy to have you pop into it.

[Rhiann]

When the role of Peter first came to you, what were your thoughts? Did you expect it to blow up the way that it did?

[D]

No, no. I started acting when I was 8. I moved to LA when I was 15 after, like, coming out a couple times. And I auditioned all the time for Disney Channel, Nickelodeon, NBC, like, all the. Just the regular cable channels and stuff. And if I booked a role, it was almost exclusively as the love interest role. And so when I was 20, I think I was 20, and I auditioned for to all the Boys. I just wanted a job.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[D]

It's not like I had any choice in the matter. And that went out for it and booked it and we shot it independent of Netflix. Had no Idea. And then Netflix bought it. They bought it with this other indie that I did called Sierra Burgess is a Loser. And they were completely separate. Right. There were just two movies that I happened to book where I played this love interest in it. And Netflix bought both of them and released them with the Kissing Booth. And their marketing campaign was just brilliant, I suppose, in their ability to be like, if you like this, you'll love that. If you love that, then you'll love this. And it just.

[Rhiann]

They.

[D]

They.

[Rhiann]

That was a super popular time with Netflix. Like, when all those movies came out, it was just like a dream.

[Fran]

The Kissing Booth. Yeah, it was like all the scenes. Yeah. Every. Every.

[D]

Yeah, it was just. It was a crazy time. They knew what they were doing, I think. You know, I just throw it to Netflix's ability to market and their subscription base. Right.

[Rhiann]

Yeah, Absolutely.

[Fran]

Smart.

[Rhiann]

When you were auditioning for that role, how many rounds did you go through? Or was it kind of like.

[D]

That's a good question. I think I went. I think I just auditioned. And then I went into a chemistry read with Lana. Lana had already booked the role. It was hers. And I was late. I think I was late to the initial audition. And I wore, like, slides with socks and a big hoodie.

[Rhiann]

Classic.

[D]

I just walked in and. And Tamara Lee, who casted it after my audition, just said, you need to dress appropriately.

[Fran]

You know, they say, dress the job you want.

[Rhiann]

Yeah, exactly.

[D]

But it worked.

[Noah]

Yeah, exactly.

[Rhiann]

Well, they remembered you.

[Noah]

Yeah.

[D]

So, yeah, I was the last one in the room.

[Rhiann]

No, you stood out somehow. They were like, that guy, we want to see him come back dressed.

[D]

Yeah, it was different. They were like, he's good, but he looks horrible. I don't know. That's like one of those cheap tricks that they teach you when you're a child trying to make it. They go, you know, wear a color that pops. So they remember. I was always. I always thought, why don't I just do something that's memorable, you know, as opposed to present socks in a certain way.

[Rhiann]

Never worked for me.

[D]

Anyone could present anyway, get a nice haircut, put on, like, some nice jewelry and.

[Fran]

Yeah. What. Where'd the acting bug originally come from? You know, growing up in Florida, and.

[D]

I just like attention.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Rhiann]

Welcome to the club.

[Fran]

I was gonna say. Honestly, Bria would have given the same.

[Rhiann]

Attention I was, you know, didn't make it. Child acting. I tried, you know, stand out. The whole thing. Yeah, it's, you know, you stand up.

[D]

You tried stand up?

[Rhiann]

No, not stand up. I tried acting, and I did. Child Acting and modeling and you know, you walk into the audition and they tell you, when they ask you how you are, don't just say good, say fantastic. You know, say a word that stands out. Never worked for me, you know, now I'm here hosting this podcast.

[D]

It was really funny. Is it changed my whole career was. I had an acting coach named. Her name's Sarah Banyan. Banya Banyan.

[Fran]

She made a big impact on you?

[D]

No, no. Well, she recently changed her last name. Okay. So I'm very familiar with her initial last name, Banyan.

[Rhiann]

I should look it up, give her the proper.

[D]

We should add in some of this.

[Fran]

We have the ability to cut around this.

[Rhiann]

Yeah.

[D]

Okay, Cool, cool, cool. I might as well. Because this and this is like for anyone that. Yeah, Banyan with an N. Okay, got it.

[Rhiann]

Yeah, nailed it.

[Fran]

Hit that again.

[Rhiann]

Sarah Banyan.

[D]

Sarah Ban. You know, it's funny you say that because, you know, go walk in and say, oh, I'm fantastic. That was definitely what they taught you, right? Go in and be bright. And then I had this acting coach, Sarah Banyan, and she said, if you're having a bad day and they ask you how your day's going, just say it's terrible. Just be honest. Stop lying. Just like, just be honest with people. And it was the best advice I ever got.

[Rhiann]

I wish I went to Saraban yesterday.

[D]

Just go opposite.

[Fran]

They'll remember the kid that came in and was like, I am terrible.

[Rhiann]

I actually cried my eyes out on the way here.

[D]

I got a flat on my way.

[Fran]

Over here fighting with my parents.

[D]

I actually have another audition that I'm waiting for. But I'm excited to be here.

[Rhiann]

Right, right. I fought with my parents the whole way here. Cause I can't fucking get a job.

[Fran]

Did you have like a little bit of a culture shock sort of moving across the country and like starting to live in la? Cause that's a. Those high, early high school years are a very formative time to have to like jump into the LA world.

[D]

They totally are. I had been, I had been going to LA since I was 11.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[D]

So I was familiar with. And I, you know, I worked on independent films or done TV shows. So the glitz and the glamour of it. I got a very up close personal working experience of it. So for me, it was never this thing that was. By the time I moved there when I was 14 or 15, I understood the workflow of working as an actor and the amount of. From doing it since I was 8 in Miami and kind of around. It wasn't this glitz, glamour thing, it wasn't this famous thing. It was this work thing.

[Fran]

Right.

[D]

So when I moved to la, there was never that. The coolest part was auditioning on lots of Warner Brothers or Fox or. Yeah. Just going around and. But no, the adjustment was, I suppose, like any kid that you take out from one high school and you put them in another one, you know, you got to make new friends, you got to find new people and. But I ultimately, ultimately left public high school and did independent study by the time I was 17.

[Rhiann]

So did you make a lot of friends in the industry at that time, going to auditions and such that you, like, still stay in touch with now?

[D]

Yeah, yeah. Patrick Cage, I've known for a long time. He just. He plays. He's in One of. One of. One of Them Days.

[Fran]

Yep.

[D]

Do you know it was Sza and Kiki Paul. Yeah, I think it's called One of Them Days.

[Fran]

Yeah. Yeah, it just, like, just came out.

[D]

It just came out. So Patrick Cage, he's in that movie and I've known him since I was 17 years old. Chris Meyer on Sex Life of College Girls. We've known each other since. For Forever. Yeah, I've known him since middle school. We went to the same middle school together.

[Rhiann]

That's awesome.

[D]

I'm trying to think of other. Yeah, right, because if you're not in school, right, you get your social network. Your group is other kids auditioning, trying to make it. Make it work. And usually. Usually, yeah, if you go to callbacks, your chemistry reads that, like, the auditions are kind of a wider swath of people. Right. You get, you know, 100% of people that are auditioning audition, and then maybe 20% of those people get a callback. And then of those people, 5% get to chemistry Reader Mix and Match. And so you just kind of befriend those people that you're seeing weekly. Yeah, and. And yeah, it's a crazy syndicate. I just. A lot of people went to high school parties or they went to frat parties in college or they just went to parties. I did that too. I just did it in apartments. And like, sometimes, like, there was like a random billionaire that wanted young people at his house. And so, like 16 or 17 and get invited to go to this huge mansion. And you. You're. There's stripper poles and what is going on?

[Rhiann]

Different worlds grow up just, like a little bit faster.

[D]

Yeah, it's LA could be very weird in that. But there's also. There's also dope artists, right, that just Are they have like a house and it's like everybody come, we're gonna, we're gonna play live music and hang on. So. Yeah, yeah, I got, I definitely, yeah, got a unique experience.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Rhiann]

Do you still love the LA lifestyle or do you kind of like to get out of there?

[D]

I like the LA lifestyle that I've found and that I've been a part of with my friends. You know, I don't, I don't. I'm not really a club guy. I used to be like, it was very exciting when you're young, you know, 17, 18, 19, 20, you're out there and you know, you know the door.

[Rhiann]

Guy and you're Peter.

[D]

Well, that was pre Peter, but by the time I did to all the boys, I had not been through my like rage phase, you know, But I got sober when I was 21 from everything for about a year and then that. So that was kind of that whole to all the boys phase.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[D]

And then after that I kind of went back to drinking a little bit and, but never really partied. So I'm not over the lifestyle because what I found is LA is great for like bonfires on the beach or going hiking and like, I don't know, there's a hub for good food and good eating. That's all great, you know.

[Fran]

What did that year kind of do for you? Kind of taking that time away from everything.

[D]

I mean, it taught me, it taught me that sobriety or abstaining at certain points of your life can be like a superpower. You sleep better, you're more focused, you're more accountable, you hold yourself far more accountable. If you have to prepare for something, it's not like, it's not like you're hungover and you're tired or you can't really remember your lines because of that. Like you're, you know, you're hungover, you know, you gotta, you gotta, you gotta really confront things too. If you're not just drinking, right. If you're drinking, you don't have to really care about things. It's a good way to numb yourself or self medicate. So you gotta confront things and then you have to find healthier ways to deal with those things. And you know, if I'm, if I'm in those phases, like right now I'm in one of those phases where I'm just not really doing anything. And you just gotta work out, take advantage, work out and just kind of connect with yourself and try to take care of, of yourself as best as you can. Because life's trippy, right?

[Rhiann]

What made you make that decision?

[D]

Man, that's a great question. I was. I don't know how honest I can be. Should I tell them the truth, Emily? I was so unhappy. I was like, I had. I was able to pay my bills for the first time. I was, like, completely financial, financially stable and secure. I was working regularly, and I was doing a lot of drugs and nothing. Like, I wasn't doing anything crazy. I just was doing drugs a lot. Right. And drinking all the time, every day. And I was young. Right. I was 20 years old, and I'd been doing that for a couple years. And so I had a career that I was proud of. I was making enough money to pay my rent and put a little bit away. And so you would think I should be super stoked and super happy, and I just wasn't. And one day I woke up and the world just looked different. Like, it felt like it was the same world, but I was looking at it like something had kind of felt like something had broken a little bit, and it scared me. And I just realized that I needed to dry out, sober up, and kind of take a look at myself and take an inventory and figure out what that change was and. And, yeah, get back to myself. I just wasn't a happy person. And I grew up. I was a very happy kid.

[Rhiann]

Right.

[D]

And I lost that.

[Fran]

So I needed to find that. It's impressive to be able to recognize that for sure at a young age.

[Rhiann]

For sure. And I think a lot of people can relate to everything you're saying, too. Like, just feeling like you have everything in the world, but not feeling that happiness. So any steps that anybody can do to, like, make that change for themselves is just an incredible thing. So. Good for you.

[D]

Thank you.

[Fran]

Seriously, it's. It is. It is impressive because not. And it's hard to cut. It takes a lot of discipline because.

[Rhiann]

Sometimes you can end up in that spot where you, like, start feeling bad for yourself instead of, like, making the change.

[Fran]

Right.

[Rhiann]

You're like, ah, another day where I don't feel, you know, you can't do it.

[D]

It. You can't do it. Like, I. You gotta want to. You gotta be in a place where you truly gotta decide. That's why, you know, sobriety and addiction, they're such tough things. Unless the person of interest wants it for themselves. It's very hard to make someone do that.

[Fran]

Sure.

[D]

And I think what led me to it was I just. I had. I was lucky enough to ask the question, why was I so happy? When I was 11 or 12. And what changes have I made and since then that have led me to be so unhappy? I said, well, what was I doing? What was my daily life like at that age? And I just went, okay, I'm gonna replicate that, right? And, yeah, it helped. It helped substantially.

[Rhiann]

Yeah. That's amazing.

[Fran]

That's great. I mean, and now such a rapid, like, name recognition rise, you know, you get to all the boys, it's like all of a sudden you're teen heartthrob. Every girl loves you, Every girl's obsessed over you. How did that affect, like, your real life?

[D]

I think. How did it affect my real life? Excuse me.

[Rhiann]

Make sure you keep that in.

[D]

I mean, it really just changed. I mean, the first time I realized that it was going to affect anything was I had just gotten to New York. We were doing the press tour for it. I got to my hotel, and there was a small army of people outside. I go upstairs, I, like, take photos and sign things. I'm like, this is crazy. Nice to meet you guys. This is weird. I go up to my hotel room and I roll a cigarette and I go, I'm gonna go outside and smoke this. And I went, oh, I can't go outside, can I? Like, if I'm playing a kid in high school. Oh, yeah, I probably shouldn't do that. I had a panic attack, so I freaked out.

[Rhiann]

You're like, I stuck the towel under the door and I smoked out the window.

[D]

And. Yeah, I just kind of got my bearings and went, no, I think this is okay. I think you'll be fine. And I just went to the service entrance, and I said, hey. I went to, like, some. Some of the. Some of the people in the kitchen. I was like, where did. Can I smoke somewhere? And they were like, yeah, just go out there. So it's fine.

[Rhiann]

Right?

[D]

It just changes little things like that, you know, it changes the way that you're in public just by virtue of individuals that you don't know know you or think that they know you, and they come up to you. And so I remember a manager when I was younger and just starting said, whenever you're in public, you're working. And so that's kind of a different mentality to have, too. You're not anonymous anymore. There's no anonymity. Even if I think I said that word.

[Fran]

Right. Yeah. That's heavy. That's like, whoa. Okay.

[Rhiann]

Right? Like, even if you go out to dinner, you're like, I feel like everyone can see me.

[D]

Yeah. And sometimes they do and sometimes you are. Sometimes nobody knows who you are. And that's awesome, right?

[Fran]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Rhiann]

And you feel like you have, like, you said you're playing a kid in high school, so you feel like you have an image to uphold, but you're also an adult who could smoke a cigarette. So. But you have a younger crowd. And I think we see this all the time lately now, too. Just like the younger crowd, tick tock. They, like, don't know that the people they're watching on TV are older and they get mad at, like, cursing or anything like that. And you're like, you know what I mean? Like, even, like, if you take Taylor Swift for an example, it's like if she's spotted doing anything of the sorts, or like, super bowl last year, she's out partying. They're like, oh, my God, she's. She's at a party and it's like, well, yes, she's an adult.

[Fran]

You know, like that sort of thing. Right, Exactly.

[Rhiann]

Yeah.

[D]

Let her rage.

[Fran]

Yeah. No, it's. It's true. It must have been kind of really a big jump. And now how fun is it for you kind of to jump into more of like an action adventure role with the Recruit? Kind of coming from, like, the, you know, the teen heartthrob movies.

[D]

Yeah, it's fun.

[Fran]

It's just.

[D]

It's just a. It's just a different, like, muscle, and it's great. Like, literally.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[D]

And Owen's cool as a character. He's not supposed to be this perfectly trained killer, you know, he's not supposed to be badass. He's supposed to be a young kid fresh out of law school that gets recruited to be a lawyer at the CIA that gets thrown into these crazy deep ends with people that are trying to kill him and people that are trained to look cool and he just doesn't. He gets to be a mess. And I think that's awesome. And it's a fresh way into the spy genre. And I like playing it because I don't have to try to, you know, look cool. I just get to be like pants.

[Rhiann]

Exactly. Well, The Recruit Season 2 is out now on Netflix. And to wrap up with one last.

[Fran]

Question, one last question presented by Truly.

[Rhiann]

Yes, by Truly. Shout out the paradise flavor. My favorite. What would be a dream role for you now that you've done, you know, romance? Heartthrob, CIA. Do you have a dream role?

[D]

This is such a horrible answer to that question. I wish I had a really interesting one for you. Not really. I don't really Have a dream role. I look for, like, dream directors and filmmakers that I just really trust.

[Noah]

And.

[Fran]

Do you have, like, a favorite director that you would love to work with? With?

[D]

I. I don't have a. Yeah. A favorite. No. No, no. But I. I have a few that. That I hopefully get on the wish list.

[Fran]

Yeah, yeah.

[Rhiann]

Open to all opportunities.

[D]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't. It's like you don't want to say it either, because I don't work with this person.

[Fran]

No, I completely understand. It's like, people are like, no, I have my wish list. And it's.

[Rhiann]

Yeah.

[Fran]

It stays on the list until it becomes a reality.

[Rhiann]

Right. It's like when you don't say your wishes out loud.

[D]

Right, right, right, right. What you wish for.

[Rhiann]

Exactly.

[D]

Weirdo. That won't come true.

[Rhiann]

Exactly. I'm sorry. Anyways, thank you so much, Noah.

[Fran]

Thank you, Noah. We really appreciate it. And The Recruit Season 2 is streaming now on Netflix.

[D]

That's right. Now playing on Netflix.

[Fran]

Thanks, guys.

[D]

I really appreciate your time.

[Fran]

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[Rhiann]

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[Fran]

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