Blake Lively 'Apologized' to Taylor Swift + Stealing Baby Name Ends Friendship

Summary

Chicks in the Office: Episode Summary Title: Blake Lively 'Apologized' to Taylor Swift + Stealing Baby Name Ends Friendship
Release Date: April 9, 2025
Host/Author: Barstool Sports

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1. Personal Wellness and Daily Struggles

The episode kicks off with Ria Ciuffo and Fran Mariano delving into their personal challenges related to posture and neck pain, a common issue exacerbated by prolonged phone usage. Fran shares her struggle with "technic" (tech neck) and discusses her attempts to improve her posture by using specialized pillows.

• Fran Mariano (02:01): "I'm trying to just like put my head up high and put my shoulders back because my neck is killing me over the last couple days."
• Ria Ciuffo (03:01): "I think I want to get one of those pillows. That's for the side sleepers."

The conversation evolves into a humorous exchange about the abundance of pillows on their beds and the aesthetic versus comfort dilemma.

2. Navigating Sleep Comfort

Continuing their wellness talk, Fran and Ria discuss various sleeping positions and the impact of different pillows on their neck and back health. They laugh about their struggles to adapt to new pillows and the challenges of maintaining a comfortable sleep environment.

• Fran Mariano (05:47): "I got to implement the side pillow a little bit more."
• Ria Ciuffo (06:41): "I have another one if you want. I keep complaining about things."

3. Television Talk: Pulse, The Pit, and White Lotus

Moving into pop culture, the hosts discuss the new medical drama "Pulse" on Netflix, comparing it to "Grey's Anatomy." They praise its realistic portrayal of day-to-day hospital operations and the evolving personal relationships among its characters.

• Ria Ciuffo (15:31): "It's medical, but you could tell from the word pulse. Yeah."

They also touch on "The Pit" and share their experiences watching the final episodes, expressing mixed feelings about certain performances and plot developments.

4. Main Stories: Celebrity Apologies and Friendship Fallout

The heart of the episode revolves around two major topics:

a. Blake Lively Apologizes to Taylor Swift

Allegedly reported by Page Six, Blake Lively reached out to Taylor Swift to apologize for being involved in the "It Ends With Us" drama. The hosts express skepticism about the authenticity and timing of the apology.

• Fran Mariano (35:17): "Blake Lively reached out to Taylor Swift to apologize for being brought into the it ends with us drama."
• Ria Ciuffo (35:53): "Things kind of work. We haven't seen too much."

They discuss the depth of Swift and Lively's friendship, questioning the motivations and the sincerity behind the apology.

b. Stealing Baby Names Ends Friendships

A listener shares a story about a friendship ending due to one friend stealing a baby name that was previously discussed as a favorite for the other's child. Ria and Fran weigh in on whether this constitutes a friendship-ending offense.

• Caller (52:13): "Is this something that you would qualify as a friendship ender for these two girls?"
• Ria Ciuffo (61:43): "I'm pissed off for sure."

Both hosts agree that while it's a peculiar situation, it doesn't necessarily have to end a friendship permanently but acknowledge the potential for lasting resentment.

5. Listener Voicemails: Weddings and Baby Names

In the "Popcorner" segment, Ria and Fran respond to listener voicemails discussing personal opinions and experiences related to weddings and baby naming.

a. Wedding Pet Peeves

A listener from Boston shares her irritation with maid of honor or best man speeches that start with irrelevant anecdotes, such as turning the speech into a drinking game.

• Caller (52:13): "One of my icks at weddings is when the maid of honor or best man starts their speech with..."
• Fran Mariano (52:41): "Weddings are so personal."

The hosts discuss their own preferences, emphasizing the importance of heartfelt and relevant speeches while acknowledging the pressure on bridal parties to entertain.

b. The Drama of Baby Name Theft

Another caller from Illinois asks for opinions on ending friendships over the theft of baby names, prompting Ria and Fran to explore the boundaries of personal grievances in friendships.

• Caller (60:37): "Is this something that you would qualify as a friendship ender for these two girls?"
• Ria Ciuffo (67:00): "If you were the first one to say that name, There are things that you can get the same of and copy."

They conclude that while it's understandable to feel upset, it's possible to move past the incident with open communication.

6. Wrap-Up and Final Thoughts

As the episode concludes, Ria and Fran reflect on the various topics discussed, emphasizing the importance of communication and understanding in personal relationships. They encourage listeners to share their own stories and opinions for future episodes.

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Notable Quotes:

• Fran Mariano (35:27): "He knows what he's doing. He said, if you don't want to go to bed with me, get out of my bed."
• Ria Ciuffo (37:05): "She missed their friendship, and she hopes they can put this whole thing behind them."
• Fran Mariano (61:53): "I think it's a little bit. But I think it's fucking bizarre."

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This episode of Chicks in the Office offers a blend of personal anecdotes, deep dives into pop culture, and engaging discussions on the complexities of friendships and celebrity dynamics. Ria and Fran provide insightful commentary, making it both entertaining and relatable for listeners.

Transcript

[Ria Ciuffo]

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[Fran Mariano]

What'S up everyone? It's chicks in the office with Rhiann Fran giving you that Friday energy on a Wednesday. Happy Wednesday, everybody.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Happy Wednesday.

[Fran Mariano]

Here we are, Wednesday, middle of the week. I feel like I'm trying to work on my posture these days because I feel like I'm getting technic.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Ooh.

[Fran Mariano]

You know?

[Ria Ciuffo]

Yeah. Like I think that's something I probably already have and is irreversible.

[Fran Mariano]

You know, I'm trying to.

[Ria Ciuffo]

I'm like, I'm always looking down at my phone. So what, what's, what's. How do you reverse that?

[Fran Mariano]

I don't know, but I'm trying. I'm trying.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Start to look at your phone, but like this. Yeah.

[Fran Mariano]

I'm trying to just like put my head up high and put my shoulders back because my neck is killing me over the last couple days. It hurts so bad. I don't know if it's the way I slept or.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Yeah, there's no way that something.

[Fran Mariano]

It can't possibly help. It can't possibly help when I'm looking down. It hurts when I look down.

[Ria Ciuffo]

That's true. But that's definitely not. And we shocked if that's the.

[Fran Mariano]

And the way I sleep sometimes is like crumpled up, you know, like my neck goes like I'm on my side and I'm all crumpled up.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Let me tell you a little Ball.

[Fran Mariano]

There's something really nice when you wake up on your back and you're, like, in the coffin position of sleeping.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Yeah.

[Fran Mariano]

And you feel like. For me, I feel so much better if I wake up like that, but when I wake up all crumpled.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, I think I want to get one of those pillows. That's for the side sleepers.

[Fran Mariano]

Yeah, I feel like I need that, too.

[Ria Ciuffo]

I think I need one of those. I say that when I stayed at one of my friend's apartments recently, she had them, and it was delightful.

[Fran Mariano]

I really, like. I feel like it helps your neck.

[Ria Ciuffo]

It really. It does. It does.

[Fran Mariano]

I will. Matt actually did get me a pillow a couple months ago for the side, and I just. I couldn't get used to it.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Implemented it.

[Fran Mariano]

No, I. I just couldn't get used to it. I don't know why. Also, because the shape doesn't match the rest of the pillows.

[Ria Ciuffo]

No, it doesn't.

[Fran Mariano]

And for me, it was throwing me off.

[Ria Ciuffo]

I was like, well, now it was an aesthetic thing.

[Fran Mariano]

Yeah. Now I'm like, okay, well, now the pillow.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Maybe if you hide it behind.

[Fran Mariano]

Right. I could hide and brick it out when I go to sleep.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Yeah. Or like, maybe put it behind the other pillows.

[Fran Mariano]

Yeah, I might have to do that.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Not the first pillow.

[Fran Mariano]

It's probably what I. But then there's three pillows on one side and two on the other.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Right, right, right.

[Fran Mariano]

You know?

[Ria Ciuffo]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Fran Mariano]

You get the aesthetic of making your bed.

[Ria Ciuffo]

I. I can't. I. That bothered me for a little bit. But Joe uses so many fucking pillows that. There's just so many pillows on our bed. Like, Joe has maybe four pillows.

[Fran Mariano]

Damn. So how many do you use? 2, so 4 and 2. So when you make the bed.

[Ria Ciuffo]

I make the bed. I do a three and three, but.

[Fran Mariano]

Nice, nice.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Okay.

[Fran Mariano]

Evens out.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Yeah, but still, it's a lot of.

[Fran Mariano]

That's a lot of pillows. It is a lot of pillows.

[Ria Ciuffo]

And, like, not decorative pillows. Pillows for sleeping. Actually sleep with, like, actual pillows.

[Fran Mariano]

Oh, my God. It's like the. He can't feel the pee.

[Ria Ciuffo]

No, I. Literally.

[Fran Mariano]

Or he can feel it with one.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Pillow in between his legs. That's supposed to be good for your spine. And he's got another pillow. I don't know. They're all some. Most of the time, one pillow ends up on the ground, and yet he insists that it needs to be on the bed.

[Fran Mariano]

Hey, you know what? The comfort. Comfort is key when you sleep. I got to implement the side pillow a little bit more.

[Ria Ciuffo]

I would like to go Back and she had two of them, so it looked nice on the bed because they were side by side.

[Fran Mariano]

I literally like, when you brought that up, I thought, that's a good idea. And I thought, oh, my God, wait, you have. I have one. And I just. Oh, my God. Whip it out. I have to tonight or something. My neck is out of control. I was doing stretches this morning.

[Ria Ciuffo]

I'm like, ah, yeah, I see the tick tocks for all them too. People being like, ooh, they look so peaceful sleeping with the side pillow.

[Fran Mariano]

Yeah, okay, well, maybe I'll whip it out.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Sleeping on your side is really not good for you in the first.

[Fran Mariano]

No, that's why I've been trying to.

[Caller]

I feel like it.

[Ria Ciuffo]

No, no, it's no. Bad for your neck, bad for your.

[Fran Mariano]

Back, but it's not the worst one. The worst one for you is sleeping on your stomach because that is really bad for your lower back. But lately I've been trying to sleep like, like this. Just.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Yeah, you're literally supposed to sleep like you're dead.

[Fran Mariano]

And I'm like, you know what? This is sort of peaceful.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Yeah. You know, I try and fall asleep like that and I just. I'll slowly feel my. Feel my. Feel my neck turn to the left.

[Fran Mariano]

And then your body just goes.

[Ria Ciuffo]

And then like, then my head just goes. Oh, now my head's all the way on the other side. Oh, now my body's.

[Fran Mariano]

And now you're peacefully sleeping on your side like a Disney princess. It's really nice.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Yeah, it's.

[Fran Mariano]

Yeah, yeah, No, I got to work on that. But I got to do some stretch. I got to open up the body.

[Caller]

Advertise like it's like a roller and you lay flat on the ground and you put on your neck and just like you're neck kind of like it reverses everything.

[Fran Mariano]

Let me tell you, I am yearning for that right now.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Yeah.

[Fran Mariano]

Like, my God, I love to roll my neck out right now on the floor.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Like, oh, that sounds like it'd be pretty nice.

[Fran Mariano]

It would be. Yeah. Oh, gosh.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Just a massage. I tricked my back a little playing pickleball, I think.

[Fran Mariano]

Oh, my God, just two hurt girls right now.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Yeah, I know, I know. I was like, we were playing pickleball in Florida and we're just outdoors. The wind was blowing and I was trying to hit the ball so hard against the wind and I could feel it in my. For my. From my twists. But I'm. I'm fine. That's fine.

[Fran Mariano]

We'll adjust.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, we'll adjust. I'm a survivor. I'm.

[Fran Mariano]

Okay, listen, we are rooting for you.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Yes.

[Fran Mariano]

Seriously.

[Ria Ciuffo]

No, totally. I'm good. I'm good.

[Fran Mariano]

I'm all whacked out of sorts today because I ordered lunch. I should have just walked and got lunch. But I ordered lunch because I found this new chicken salad sandwich in the city that I think is really delightful. And I ordered it before I left my apartment because I know that the delivery takes a little bit long from this place. Two hours. This lunch is still not here.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Crazy.

[Fran Mariano]

So I haven't eaten yet and I'm hangry. You know, I'm on the point of like, mama needs something to eat. Yeah.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Right. And I don't blame you.

[Fran Mariano]

Like, now I'm just in a. Like, I'm not gonna cancel and I'm not gonna order a new lunch.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Yeah.

[Fran Mariano]

I'm going to wait till this lunch break.

[Ria Ciuffo]

You gotta wait for it to show up for sure.

[Fran Mariano]

But now it's 1:30 and, you know, we're recording, so I can't eat now. Yeah. The order is still not even picked up for delivery. But I can't cancel out of principle.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Is it a real. And that's like a real restaurant that you can go and sit down at, Right?

[Fran Mariano]

I'm not sure. I've only ordered the chicken salad sandwich from there.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Yeah, I think it is.

[Fran Mariano]

I looked up best chicken salad sandwich in New York City on Google.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Yeah.

[Fran Mariano]

And this place, daily provisions came up and I thought, oh, I'm gonna try it. Saw it. Saw it was on Uber Eats. Oh, they're on the way.

[Ria Ciuffo]

I think it is a relief.

[Fran Mariano]

It doesn't matter though. I won't be able to eat it now. But they're on the way. That is truly a relief. Gosh. Well, anyways, I'll eat at some point today, right? I'll get there. Achy neck, hungry. What other complaints do I got? Not really.

[Ria Ciuffo]

I was gonna say I. I have another one if you want. If I.

[Fran Mariano]

If you want to add on.

[Ria Ciuffo]

I keep complaining about things.

[Fran Mariano]

Sure, why not?

[Ria Ciuffo]

I switched to a new Invisalign. Oh, and the. The edges are hurting. Hurting.

[Fran Mariano]

Ouch.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Uncomfortable. I don't know. It's new brand of Invisalign. No, no, no, no. New. The next week. The next week I'm on the. I'm at the end.

[Fran Mariano]

How is it done?

[Caller]

I feel like even you were supposed to be done. Like.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Yeah.

[Fran Mariano]

Weren't you supposed to be done in August?

[Ria Ciuffo]

Guys, remember, they gave me 14 new weeks the last time I went.

[Fran Mariano]

You never.

[Caller]

Why, though? Like, Were you.

[Ria Ciuffo]

They said they weren't. They weren't done. Is that they were done cooking, doing.

[Caller]

Because, like, you didn't wear it enough or.

[Ria Ciuffo]

No, I was pretty good about it. I'm not gonna lie. I just think it wasn't. Yeah, yeah.

[Fran Mariano]

We did more on.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Yeah. Invisalign wasn't doing what it needed to do. And it's still not. Honestly talking. It kind of hurts. Like, I feel like I'm gonna get a cut on my tongue.

[Fran Mariano]

Oh, my gosh. Well, you know what?

[Ria Ciuffo]

We just need to take a pause.

[Fran Mariano]

From the podcast today. I know we're gonna get through it. Don't reach out to your mouth right now.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Inside. I know, but now it actually. Now it actually hurts.

[Fran Mariano]

Oh, God. Oh, gosh.

[Ria Ciuffo]

I know. This is week 13.

[Fran Mariano]

Oh. So you have one more week.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Yeah.

[Fran Mariano]

Wow.

[Ria Ciuffo]

But I think I'm gonna go back and they're gonna say they're not done.

[Fran Mariano]

You need six more weeks after that.

[Caller]

This sounds like a scam.

[Fran Mariano]

Invisalign. Yeah. Is sometimes.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Well, it's never. It's never the amount of time that they say it is. It's wishful thinking because they tell you.

[Fran Mariano]

Oh.

[Ria Ciuffo]

But. But how they get away with it is because they say if you wear it 20 out of the 24 hours of the day, like, you'll be good.

[Fran Mariano]

That's just a lot of hours.

[Ria Ciuffo]

It's just. It's just impossible.

[Fran Mariano]

It's just too many hours.

[Ria Ciuffo]

It's just impossible for somebody who, you know, eats. And by the way, you're not. You're only supposed to drink water with it.

[Fran Mariano]

Yep.

[Ria Ciuffo]

So it's like, if you want to have a coffee, you're supposed to take it out. If you want to have anything else to drink, you got to take it out. You're going straw breakfast, lunch, dinner. You got, you know, the whole thing. So it's. Those hours add up. So the way they get away with it by being like, well, if you wear it for those set amount of hours, you should be good. But who has the time.

[Fran Mariano]

No. No.

[Ria Ciuffo]

To have it in for that? And you just. It's. It's. It locks you up.

[Fran Mariano]

Right.

[Ria Ciuffo]

To be worried about it for that much. You'll be free.

[Fran Mariano]

Hopefully. I probably.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Well, because every time I look at my mouth, too, and I'm like, it's. It's just there. But I almost think my. My teeth have been in the same spot for, like, the last six weeks, regardless of the Invisalign. So I just think that they're not going to be able to to get it past that last little hump. It's the T. It is quite literally the teeniest amount.

[Fran Mariano]

Well, can't you just say, listen, I'm done. I don't care about this little thing.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Problem is, yes, I could, but. But I'm worried that. Because the plan was that they would then put in a permanent retainer, I'm worried that she's gonna be like, well, I can't put in the permanent retainer unless they're all the way done. And then it's like. And then if I just give up, what was the point of it all? Because then my teeth will just go back. They'll just move back.

[Fran Mariano]

Right, right.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Because they'll let. I know what will happen. They'll just push right back. And then my middle. The teeth that the, the bottom teeth that I'm trying to fix, we'll just go right back. Well, and then what's the point? I've been doing this for a year, one year wasted of wearing this stupid Invisalign.

[Fran Mariano]

You keep going until you get to the end. Powering through, powering through until you get to the end.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Yeah, I can't also get any. No one answers the phone there.

[Fran Mariano]

Listen, Nobody answers the phone at the dentist. In general, I've had the same situation before.

[Ria Ciuffo]

I went crazy. I think I have to go walk to the office, knock on the door, literally, to walk in and be like, I need to speak to somebody to make this appointment.

[Fran Mariano]

Yeah, that's super annoying.

[Ria Ciuffo]

So, yeah, go knock him down.

[Fran Mariano]

And I'm not wearing this for six more weeks. Seriously, it's going to end at week 14.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Killing me, killing me. But that's all I have to complain about.

[Fran Mariano]

I feel like I'm just hoping that I'm not actually getting sick because when your whole body hurts, sometimes it's like, oh, yeah, maybe I'm just getting sick because I felt a little bit that way when I woke up. Like, I felt a little bit like.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Ooh, I bet you you're a little.

[Fran Mariano]

Sore, a little sick. You could be a little sore, a little run down.

[Ria Ciuffo]

You know what? It also is drastic change in weather.

[Fran Mariano]

And I'll give you this.

[Ria Ciuffo]

You know, it's so warm in Florida, it's cold here.

[Fran Mariano]

Drastic change in weather on top of drastic change in apartment temperature because I'm too cold when I'm sitting on the couch. So we have to have the heat on.

[Ria Ciuffo]

The heat on.

[Fran Mariano]

Yeah. But when we get into bed, I'm too hot to be in bed. So we gotta put the air on. So I'm going from hot to cold in a short amount of time. And then I'm waking up, like, ooh, maybe that wasn't the best idea. That's what happened today. I thought, you know what?

[Ria Ciuffo]

The heat into the air, that'll do it too. For sure.

[Fran Mariano]

Probably not the best idea.

[Ria Ciuffo]

That'll definitely do it.

[Fran Mariano]

Just in Florida now, I come to cold weather. My body's trying to regulate with the temperatures. And you know what? I'm hoping I could just shake it off today and tomorrow I wake up a new day.

[Ria Ciuffo]

You will, you know, you'll feel like a brand new.

[Fran Mariano]

A brand new woman. Yeah, let's hope.

[Ria Ciuffo]

I think so.

[Fran Mariano]

And maybe after I eat my lunch, I'll feel a little bit better, too.

[Ria Ciuffo]

That's probably coming.

[Fran Mariano]

Once I eat my lunch, I'll be like, oh, I feel great.

[Ria Ciuffo]

I'll take you back. I think I have to take this.

[Fran Mariano]

Invisalign out right now.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Yeah, like, okay, take it out. I'm going to.

[Fran Mariano]

You have to. You gotta be comfortable while talking. You gotta take it out. You gotta flow that mouth, you know, easily. Whatever that means. I don't know why I just said that.

[Caller]

I was like, did I flow that mouth?

[Fran Mariano]

Flow that mouth easily? I don't know what I'm saying right now. I didn't eat lunch yet. I haven't eaten lunch. I'm hungry, so I don't even know what I'm saying. But Fran's currently taking care of his line now and then she'll be able to speak freely. And she's putting into a napkin. Don't throw that napkin out by accident. That is the worst. If you. Did you ever throw it out by accident yet?

[Ria Ciuffo]

I haven't done that.

[Fran Mariano]

Wow, that's impressive. It's probably when your frontal lobe develops. You don't do that, right? When I had them when I was younger, I threw it out all the time.

[Ria Ciuffo]

I. I imagine that would be very easy.

[Fran Mariano]

This line was in the garbage all the time.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Oh, my. That feels so much better. It was like, feel free. It was. I felt like I was sawing into my tongue.

[Fran Mariano]

Yeah. Now you could do exercises. Unique New York. Unique New York. What's the other ones?

[Ria Ciuffo]

Red leather, yellow leather. Red leather, yellow leather.

[Fran Mariano]

How now, brown cow. How now, brown cow. Wow. Even I feel looser now.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Yeah.

[Fran Mariano]

I feel like I was holding on to your attention.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Some vocal exercises just to bring us.

[Fran Mariano]

I felt like I was holding on to your teeth. In. My teeth.

[Ria Ciuffo]

It was my. Yeah, my tongue. Really?

[Fran Mariano]

Okay, well, Feeling good?

[Ria Ciuffo]

Yeah. Good. All right.

[Fran Mariano]

Let's get into the rest of the topics.

[Ria Ciuffo]

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[Fran Mariano]

Oh, I was gonna ask you what that was you posted on your story.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Oh, I'm locked in.

[Fran Mariano]

Should I watch?

[Ria Ciuffo]

Yes.

[Fran Mariano]

What is it?

[Ria Ciuffo]

It's Grey's Anatomy, but, like.

[Fran Mariano]

Oh, wait, so where's another medical?

[Ria Ciuffo]

It's medical, but you could tell from the word pulse. Yeah.

[Fran Mariano]

Yeah, I dreamt about this last night. About Pulse. I dreamt about asking you about Pulse because I saw it on your story and I wanted to know what it was, but I didn't go through the lengths of looking at it. I just thought, I'll ask her tomorrow. Yeah, I'm not even gonna Google.

[Ria Ciuffo]

There you go. Well, it is a medical drama now. It's very different. It's more gray Grey's Anatomy than it is. Like, the pit is very realistic day to day, you know, hour by hour. In the. In the er. Pulse is more. Yes, they are all doctors, but there's, you know, personal relationships. There's more love involved. Love story, but it's, you know, a young doctor who gets into a relationship with her old, you know, her boss that's obviously, you know, not drastically older, but it's her boss and the drama that ensues as well because, you know, she tries to get it promoted, but then he's in charge of her being promoted, but they're a secret, but then she, like, reports him and then they break up. It's a whole big thing.

[Fran Mariano]

So HR violations.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Yeah, it was a whole big thing. Like, at the beginning, I wasn't sure. I'm like, wait, is this guy a good guy or a bad guy? Do we not like him because she filed a complaint against him? But then it's like, oh, maybe it's something else. Maybe she's working through her own. Her own things. She's got her own personal issues. But they. It seemed like they were in love. And, my God, is he handsome.

[Fran Mariano]

Gosh.

[Ria Ciuffo]

My God, is he handsome? So of course he is. But kind of a little early Meredith Gray McDreamy kind of vibe of like, oh, keeping a secret. He's, you know, a more important. At the hospital kind of thing.

[Fran Mariano]

Gotcha. Okay. I like it.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Yes.

[Fran Mariano]

Like the sound of it.

[Ria Ciuffo]

And it's in Miami. Ooh, the hospital's in Miami.

[Fran Mariano]

Switch up.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Yep, switch up. And the first couple episodes, they're dealing with a big hurricane. Oh, so that is. Huh. Well, that, you know, big hurricane. And I watched eight episodes on Monday.

[Fran Mariano]

Holy shit.

[Caller]

How long are they. Are they.

[Ria Ciuffo]

They're standard 45, you know. Oh, my God.

[Fran Mariano]

So almost eight hours of time.

[Ria Ciuffo]

No, I. Quite literally, I barely turned it off to watch the national championship game. Like, Joe came home.

[Fran Mariano]

I love that.

[Ria Ciuffo]

I was still watching Pulse, and he was like, you don't have the basketball on. I was like, I'm so. I was like, I'm so locked in right now, I can't even care about that.

[Fran Mariano]

I absolutely love that that's making me want to watch. Instead, I watched the Gilgo beach documentary, and let me tell you, quite the opposite of handsome. Oh.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Terrifying monster.

[Fran Mariano]

God. Terrifying ugly monster. And you could say that about him because he is a gross, ugly, disgusting monster. And w. Yeah, they really fucked up, huh? They really did. I have one more episode left. I fell asleep.

[Ria Ciuffo]

That's fine.

[Fran Mariano]

With. With within two episodes, I fell asleep.

[Ria Ciuffo]

There's only three episodes, so I was.

[Fran Mariano]

Interested, but I was tired. I was a tired gal, so I went to sleep. But. Ooh, I'm gonna give.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Maybe that three is good, because it's really. It's where they get them, you know?

[Fran Mariano]

Yeah, they got the bastard.

[Ria Ciuffo]

It's satisfying to see him. To see him get. God.

[Fran Mariano]

Piece of shit.

[Caller]

Have you watched the most recent episode of the Pit? Yes, I watched it last night. No spoilers.

[Fran Mariano]

Don't spoil.

[Ria Ciuffo]

No, I'm not. I'm not. I'm not. I'm not. It is. It is very good.

[Fran Mariano]

I feel like I have a lot of television I want to watch.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Yeah. And it's get ready, but pull your scalpel out because it's a lot of metal.

[Fran Mariano]

Get your goggles on.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Yeah, it is. Well, the Pit finale is on Thursday.

[Fran Mariano]

I know, but Matt is traveling to Chicago for work until Friday together from Tuesday to Friday. And we watch the Pit.

[Ria Ciuffo]

What episode do you think you're on?

[Fran Mariano]

We're on nine right now.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Okay.

[Fran Mariano]

Yes.

[Ria Ciuffo]

We have a couple left. You still haven't really gotten to the good stuff.

[Fran Mariano]

I know. Well, I think the whole show is.

[Ria Ciuffo]

I mean, it's also bad for me to really say the good stuff because what happens is God awful.

[Fran Mariano]

Right. But there's a couple of shows that we want to watch right now. But I'll watch the Pulse.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Yeah.

[Fran Mariano]

Without him.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Yeah, yeah. Yes.

[Fran Mariano]

Because I feel that, you know, that's.

[Ria Ciuffo]

He doesn't need to watch.

[Fran Mariano]

That's a me TV show for sure. You know what I mean?

[Ria Ciuffo]

For sure.

[Fran Mariano]

So I'll watch that in the meantime.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Yeah.

[Fran Mariano]

To wait it out. But, yeah, I got to catch up on that. I feel like there were some other things that I wanted to watch.

[Caller]

Studio.

[Fran Mariano]

The studio I gotta catch up on. That'll be a this weekend thing.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Yeah. Yep.

[Fran Mariano]

Some nice. Some nice telly.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Catch up on T O C. The.

[Fran Mariano]

List just keeps getting longer.

[Ria Ciuffo]

I know it does, but that'll be.

[Fran Mariano]

A nice weekend to unwind and watch some television.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Exactly.

[Fran Mariano]

All right, let's get into the rest of the topics for today. I mean, my God, I'm starving. No, I'm just mad at myself because last week I brought lunch every day, like leftovers from what I cooked from the night before. And it was delightful, you know, having your lunch already made, ready to go. You don't have to worry about this. Yeah, but I wasn't here this weekend, so I didn't cook over the weekend. And then I didn't cook Monday night. I was way too lazy. So now I'm shit out of luck with my lunch. I'm starving anyways. Enough. Enough out of me. We'll move on. We'll move on. All right, let's get into the rest of the topic.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Wednesday Complainers.

[Fran Mariano]

Yeah, it is Wednesday. It is Wednesday Complain day. Let us. Let us have it once in a while, you know, Every once in a while. Every once in a while. Just feels good. Mike White talked a lot about cut scenes from the White Lotus. He talks about the, you know, little breakup with the composer from the White Lotus. He's gone, no love lost. And he hits back at criticism towards the quote, unquote boring claims. Blake Lively apparently reached out to Taylor Swift to apologize for being brought into the it ends with us drama. Gleb says he's blindsided by the Breakup News with Brooks Nader. Don't know how you could be blindsided by that. And Sydney, sweetie is spotted with her ex Jonathan getting lunch over the weekend, she looked like she did not want to be seen at all. She did not. She looked miserable in the photographs. But we shall discuss. And we have the popcorner, which, you know what, guys, you've been calling in with some great voicemails, so let's keep that up. All right, let's get into the topics. Introducing innovation from the award winning number one dry shampoo. Brand new Batiste Light Dry Shampoo is our lightest dry shampoo ever. Addressing some of the main reasons you may not already be using dry shampoo. It blends seamlessly in hair and leaves no visible white residue. It's lightweight and non gritty, absorbing oil and grease for cleaner looking hair without weighing it down. Batiste Light Dry Shampoo comes in two soft and subtle scents, Mellomelon and Zen Matcha. You can buy Batiste Light Dry Shampoo online or in in store at your nearest retailer. Batiste Light Dry Shampoo is absolutely perfect. I love the Mellow Melon scent. It is absolutely perfect for, you know, the days that you don't want to wash your hair. You're just looking for a nice little touch up with your dry shampoo. You can look for Batiste Light Dry Shampoo and it comes in those two soft and subtle scents, Mellow Melon and Zen Matcha. Buy Batiste Light Dry Shampoo online or in store at your nearest retailer. The finale of White Lotus was Sunday night, so the conversation continues. This week, Mike White went on the White Lotus Official podcast and he talked about, you know, some of the backlash he's been getting, the situation with the composer, some scenes that were cut out, which I think everybody loves hearing the behind the scenes. But then when you hear that scenes were cut out, you're like, well, damn, give us just a whole other season of all the cut scenes we want to see.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Right.

[Fran Mariano]

I think there were some storylines that were cut that probably didn't make much sense. Like Piper losing her virginity to Zion, Belinda's son.

[Ria Ciuffo]

I don't know where that would fit in.

[Fran Mariano]

I don't. That's what I was thinking. I was like, at what point would she have done that?

[Ria Ciuffo]

It would have felt so random.

[Fran Mariano]

It would have felt so random because we didn't see them interact at all. They would have had to have them interacting at some point to then have that scene.

[Ria Ciuffo]

He did say he was trying to maybe ended up narratively trying to like, do too much.

[Fran Mariano]

Yeah, it felt like that would have been just like an. No, like it would have just been random.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Yeah.

[Fran Mariano]

Like, everyone would have been, I guess, you know, happy for Piper to be doing something other than just talking about how she wants to live in Thailand. But at the same time, I feel like it would have been completely random. He also hit back on the criticism that people have called the show boring or the finale was boring, predictable things of that nature. He knows what he's doing. He said, if you don't want to go to bed with me, get out of my bed. I'm edging. You enjoy the edging. If you don't want to be edged, get out of my bed. Don't be a bossy bottom. Which I love this quote. I think it's hilarious. It's hysterical. And on point, he's like, hey, listen, I'm getting you right to that point. Yeah, but I'm not. I'm not going to blow it right in this episode. I'm going to make you wait until the very last second for you to know what happens. You're going to be waiting the entire time. So I feel like, you know, we all picked up on that for this season especially, I think, was a little bit more of that edging he's talking about. Yeah, I think some in the. In the first season and the second season, like, if. Like, if you remember in the first season, and I don't know if I remember this correctly, but when they get robbed, they're still after. You know what I mean? Like, they go to the hotel, the hotel's trying to make it up for them. Like, the murder didn't happen, you know, Whereas, like, sometimes it feels like, like the rock, there was a robbery in this, but it didn't feel as big as the first season one, you know.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Because it didn't really end up mattering that. Right. So any other part of the storyline?

[Fran Mariano]

Yeah. So I just feel like with this season there. There was a little bit more of that waiting, waiting, waiting. Oh, my God, what's gonna happen? But it kept people coming back each week. Just like, if big moments happen, people would have came back. The little moments happening and not getting that big thing still makes people come back because they're like, well, what's it gonna be this week?

[Ria Ciuffo]

Yeah, Yeah, I think you're very right. And I think Mike White can do whatever the hell he wants. Right. Like, and I think he. You kind of forget how he is as a person until you listen to the interviews and whatnot. And it just makes you chuckle because he is gonna stick to. To his guns for sure. And there's certain things that, like, if it annoyed you. He really doesn't care. He really doesn't. He's. He's making the show the way he wants to make it.

[Fran Mariano]

Mike White, I just don't think he care. I think he just.

[Ria Ciuffo]

No.

[Fran Mariano]

Does what he wants to do, and.

[Ria Ciuffo]

He lets it fly. He says what he. What he thinks. I know we've seen this drama with the composer that due to creative differences, he was not going to come back for season two. And Mike White, during a interview on the Howard Stern show, said, I honestly don't know what happened, except now I'm reading his interviews because he decides to do some PR campaign about him leaving the show. I don't think he respected me. He wants people to know that he's edgy and dark, and I'm. I don't know, like, I watch reality tv. We never really even fought. He says we feuded. I don't think I ever had a fight with him except for maybe some emails. It was basically me giving him notes. I don't think he'd like to go through the process of getting notes from me or wanting revisions because he didn't respect me. I knew he wasn't a team player and that he wanted to do it his way. I was thrown that he would go to the New York Times to shit on me in the show three days before the finale. It was kind of a bitch move. I love that mic drop.

[Fran Mariano]

I love it.

[Ria Ciuffo]

I mean, take that, Cristobal.

[Fran Mariano]

I mean, he's kind of. He's kind of right, though. It's like, three days before the finale drops. You're gonna be like, by the way, I'm not returning. We're in a big fight. Da, da da, da, da. I mean, what now Mike White's just gonna find another composer to make it exact. Any people would probably die to make the music for the White Lotus. Yeah, he's gonna find another composer. He's gonna do it exactly the way Mike White likes. You know, it's good. People love the music in the White Lotus, though, so it is a little bit disappointing because I'm sure they can't just outright copy it, because the composer made that.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Right. And it's crazy.

[Fran Mariano]

And he wanted the music.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Right. And it did seem he wanted to keep the. And Mike didn't.

[Fran Mariano]

Yeah.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Which is.

[Fran Mariano]

The audience would disagree with Mike.

[Ria Ciuffo]

A choice from Mike. But once again, he wanted, apparently what, you know, he had told the New York Times the composer was that Mike wanted more. Something more that was like, background music, a song. That's more like something you Would listen to in Ibiza in some clubby place with a chill, sexy vibe. So I actually really enjoy. Mike Cutler was an ooh la la version of this.

[Fran Mariano]

Yeah, I enjoyed this. This music. It really grew on me week to week.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Yeah, he. He said that he. He felt it would have been great to make a longer version with the Ululus because people would explode if they realized that it was going there anyway. He thought it was a good idea. Some producer thought it was a good idea. But then Mike cut it. He wasn't happy about it.

[Fran Mariano]

Mike's like, no. Hulu lose.

[Ria Ciuffo]

No.

[Fran Mariano]

None.

[Ria Ciuffo]

None.

[Fran Mariano]

None in this season.

[Ria Ciuffo]

He just didn't want it to work. So, yes, that's it. And he won't be coming back. White also said the composer didn't want to go through the process with me and, quote, didn't want to go to sessions during the making of the third season, adding, he would always look at me with this contemptuous smirk on his face, like he thought I was a chimp or something. He's definitely making a big deal out of a creative difference of opinion. He's very talented, but I've never kissed somebody's ass so hard to just get him to. To lead the horse to water. Have fun with whatever you're doing next.

[Fran Mariano]

Damn cold.

[Ria Ciuffo]

See ya.

[Fran Mariano]

I love it because he's just gonna find somebody who wants to do it.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Yeah.

[Fran Mariano]

And do it the way Mike White wants.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Totally. Which is also just like, you know, I mean, Mike's not a composer himself, but clearly he feels like he gets the final say, and he does. He's the creator of the show.

[Fran Mariano]

The egos, they come into play.

[Ria Ciuffo]

They do.

[Fran Mariano]

And, you know, I can picture.

[Ria Ciuffo]

I think that's the problem.

[Fran Mariano]

An artsy composer is like, well, this is my art. I know what I'm talking about. You don't. And Mike White's like, I don't really give a shit if I know about composing or not. Do it the way I want.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Mike White's like, listen to the theme song for Southern Charm and take notes.

[Fran Mariano]

Yeah, that's what we want in this show. Okay. So copy that. Yeah, but I can listen to Mike White really talk about anything from the show. I can listen to any of the cast members talk about behind the scenes. I love every single Amy Lu Wood interview she does. I stop and have to watch every single one. I can listen to these people talk about it all. And I could talk. I listen to Jason Isaacs insinuate there was drama on the set in every single interview he does. Yeah, it Never gets old. He may be the drama.

[Ria Ciuffo]

He may be the drama.

[Fran Mariano]

Am I the problem?

[Ria Ciuffo]

I think it is. I think it is. Am I the problem Situation. Because nobody else has said it except for him. And then it's like, well, are you the problem?

[Fran Mariano]

Am I the drama? Because it really feels that way. You know, it was actually so funny when we went to bed Sunday night, we threw on an episode of Entourage.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Yeah.

[Fran Mariano]

And Jason Isaacs was in the episode.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Oh.

[Fran Mariano]

And it freaked us out. We were like, what?

[Ria Ciuffo]

Wow. I don't remember him being in an episode.

[Fran Mariano]

He was like a tailor.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Interesting.

[Fran Mariano]

Yeah. It was so rant. We were like, is that Jason Isaacs? It was.

[Ria Ciuffo]

He wasn't playing Jason.

[Fran Mariano]

No. He was playing, like, a designer. Taylor. I. You know, I don't know exactly.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, I know.

[Fran Mariano]

I know. But.

[Ria Ciuffo]

But that's so interesting because that was, like, peak Harry Potter time.

[Fran Mariano]

Yeah, it was. It was. It really, really threw us off.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Yeah.

[Fran Mariano]

Because, you know, you know, something like that happens. You're like watching a show, whatever. You're like, wait a second. Yeah, there was in it. There was just another.

[Ria Ciuffo]

You were just watching him on another show?

[Fran Mariano]

Yeah, I think it must have been. He must have been playing a designer. Now I'm. Now I want to get it right, so. I'm sorry. I'm Googling this right now.

[Ria Ciuffo]

No, it's probably. I actually feel like I remember what you're talking about. He wants to dress.

[Fran Mariano]

He's overseeing a marketing campaign for Dolce and Gabbana.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Yeah.

[Fran Mariano]

And hires him as the male model.

[Ria Ciuffo]

But isn't he the one that also.

[Fran Mariano]

Oh, my God.

[Ria Ciuffo]

He likes. Because of the model. He likes the model.

[Fran Mariano]

He's jealous. Frederic is jealous of her. Attracting to Vince.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Yes.

[Fran Mariano]

Yeah.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Yes, yes. Oh, my God. That's him.

[Fran Mariano]

Yes.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Wow.

[Fran Mariano]

We were like, wow, what?

[Ria Ciuffo]

Now I totally remember. The plot point here was because of the other. He wanted to work with that other female model, and then she got doing the campaign. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Wow.

[Fran Mariano]

Yeah.

[Ria Ciuffo]

What an interesting role for him at that point.

[Fran Mariano]

It was. But it was just so random. Yeah. What the hell is Jason Isaac doing on a screen again?

[Ria Ciuffo]

Right, right, right, right, right. Here he is.

[Fran Mariano]

I love him talking about the drama because I'm like, who was he fighting with?

[Ria Ciuffo]

Seriously? I think he was. He must have been with him.

[Fran Mariano]

And he always says he was closest with the kids the whole time, so I'm like, did he just not get along with any of the adults?

[Ria Ciuffo]

Right, right, right.

[Fran Mariano]

Or maybe they didn't get along. Who knows? But I'm interested in all of it. And I'm gonna miss this cast and miss interviews from them and same. It's going to die down and we're all going to be waiting on the edge of our seat to find out where the next location is.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Right where they're going for season four.

[Fran Mariano]

Is it going to be cold?

[Ria Ciuffo]

We're going to have to wait for. He said that he wants to Ayahuasca trip.

[Fran Mariano]

Yeah. The next time he's in the hospital somewhere and hallucinates on the season. But he said he wants to kind of stray away from the crashing.

[Ria Ciuffo]

I saw that crash. Waves on the rocks. Yeah.

[Fran Mariano]

Yeah. So who knows? I mean, that could be done really anywhere. There's many places you can. You could do that. Places in Europe that.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Yeah.

[Fran Mariano]

Beaches.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Yeah.

[Fran Mariano]

You can do it in cold climates.

[Ria Ciuffo]

You could do something. Japan, ski resort.

[Fran Mariano]

Yeah. I'm.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Safari would be kind of sick. Really. White Lotus. Five star safari.

[Fran Mariano]

Well, I think it has to be a Four Seasons because every hotel no does has been filmed out of Four Seasons.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Picking for.

[Fran Mariano]

I. I would imagine he almost has a deal with the Four Seasons that he can film at any of the locations.

[Ria Ciuffo]

And they keep like. I feel like they have all these events, like even the LA influencers and whatnot. All went to an event at the Four Seasons because it was white load. But they, you know, it feels like.

[Fran Mariano]

They'Re deal with them.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Yeah.

[Fran Mariano]

So I. Unless I'm not.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Well, there are four Seasons everywhere.

[Fran Mariano]

Yeah. I'm not dying for a snowy season. I know some people are.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Yeah.

[Fran Mariano]

But I wouldn't like. I'm sure it would be spectacular, but I'm not like, please, please give us a snowy season.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Yeah. Yeah. I go. So I think safari would be pretty crazy.

[Fran Mariano]

Yeah, that would be crazy.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Yeah.

[Fran Mariano]

Maybe the elephants will start shooting people.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Right.

[Fran Mariano]

Because the monkeys.

[Caller]

It would be nice to switch it up if it was like snowy. Like just a different like, aesthetic.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Well, she just said she wouldn't want it to be.

[Caller]

No, I know, but I just feel like that would be like it would change.

[Fran Mariano]

Yeah. I'm not dying for it, but I.

[Caller]

Think it'd be cool.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Yeah.

[Fran Mariano]

Because I guess it can get a bit repetitive if you don't switch it up.

[Caller]

Yeah.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Whole different decor, clothes, costumes.

[Fran Mariano]

Yeah.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Could really go all out full.

[Caller]

Switzerland.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Fran Mariano]

Yeah. That would be really cool too. Switzerland.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Yep.

[Fran Mariano]

That'd be very cool.

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[Fran Mariano]

Moving on. This is alleged Page Six reported this Blake Lively reached out to Taylor Swift to apologize for being brought into the it ends with us drama.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Yeah.

[Fran Mariano]

Now, now, apparently they maybe haven't talked much since she was brought into it. Blake Lively reached out to Taylor Swift to apologize. Taylor said, you know, she felt it was heartfelt and genuine. I don't know where they get this information from, though. Like, I'm like, who is saying this and how did they find this out? Like, I'm just so curious because it is a random headline, a random article to be written, you know, like, just out of nowhere because I felt like.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Things kind of work. We haven't seen too much.

[Fran Mariano]

Yeah. So they're like, all right, let's throw this story back in there. Yeah, throw it in the mix. Because it's been a little bit. But, I mean, I could imagine Taylor wasn't happy when her name was thrown out into this whole thing. I mean, that's a night for nightmare for anybody to be thrown into this. But I don't know the, you know, inner workings of what happened between their relationship. And if this is true, if they actually. She actually didn't speak to Blake Lively after or anything like that. But this is what the article says.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Yeah. It's a source exclusively told Page Six it was important to Blake to be on good terms again with Taylor. It was never her attention to hurt Taylor cause any harm to their friendship. Blake missed their friendship, and she hopes they can put this whole thing behind them there. The source says that Swift appreciated Lively's apology. Like you said, she felt it was genuine, heartfelt. Taylor has no hard feelings and is ready to move forward. And that's really, you know, kind of about it. But that kind of feels like a story out of nothing, to be honest. Like, I think that if anything, Taylor was maybe a little bit annoyed, but it's somebody that you're so close to that she could have apologized. Like, this apology could have been months ago or just re repeated at this point. Of, hey, really sorry how this all went down.

[Fran Mariano]

Yeah.

[Ria Ciuffo]

And it's like. Yeah, I know it's annoying, but we're fine. Like, no worries. Like, Right. It's okay. Like, it's.

[Fran Mariano]

It's.

[Ria Ciuffo]

It's gonna be okay. She's so close to them and godmother to the children. One of the. One of them, I think for sure.

[Fran Mariano]

If somebody that likes close to me, I could pretty much get over anything. Like, unless it's really bad.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Yeah.

[Fran Mariano]

You know what I mean? Or if it's a repetitive thing. But something like this, I feel like if it was the godmother to my children and one of my best friends ever, I'd probably be a little mad, but I'd be like, it's all right. We'll get over it, you know?

[Ria Ciuffo]

Yeah.

[Fran Mariano]

Like, I'm not going to not talk to you forever over this if we're that close.

[Ria Ciuffo]

She's godmother to all three of them. Yeah. And this.

[Fran Mariano]

So that's the case. You're.

[Ria Ciuffo]

You got to work past that is actually kind of hilarious.

[Fran Mariano]

She just said fuck.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Everybody else was just like, you know what? I'm really setting my kids up where they're all going to. Taylor Swift.

[Caller]

What did she call her? Like, what did she say?

[Ria Ciuffo]

Like, a lot of dragons.

[Caller]

Yeah.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Yeah.

[Fran Mariano]

That's kind of like weird. Like, I'm.

[Ria Ciuffo]

No, you rarely. Honest, you rarely give. I rarely hear of a godmother.

[Fran Mariano]

You.

[Ria Ciuffo]

You know, you get all the kids.

[Fran Mariano]

Yeah. She has a sister and she has.

[Ria Ciuffo]

She's a sister. Your sister's married to Bart Johnson.

[Caller]

That's crazy.

[Fran Mariano]

Oh, no. Sister. Sorry, I thought it was a sister in law. No, no, she has a sister.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Her sister is married to Coach Bolton.

[Fran Mariano]

Right, right. I fucked that up in my head. But I think.

[Ria Ciuffo]

I think maybe a couple other siblings.

[Fran Mariano]

Let me just say, like, now that I'm like, thinking this out loud, like, that's actually incredibly bizarre that Taylor Swift is the godbrother to all three.

[Caller]

She has four siblings.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Some people don't. Some people, it's. It's. I think it's a regional thing. I also think it's a religious thing.

[Caller]

Clout thing.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Well, some people don't use their siblings for godparents. Like, I have friends regardless. Have, like their. Their godparents are not their aunts and uncles.

[Fran Mariano]

You don't have any other friends to mix in. You just have one. The biggest superstar on the planet that you're gonna make the godmother to all.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Of your children if you have the number one superstar.

[Fran Mariano]

But I'm not making her the godmother to all of my children. My family and friends mean a lot to me.

[Caller]

She's asking Taylor. It's not like Taylor's, like, offering. So don't you think Taylor, after maybe two is like, really first one, I.

[Fran Mariano]

Would be like, wow, again.

[Ria Ciuffo]

That if anything was. If anything were to happen to them.

[Caller]

All you need to be a godmother.

[Ria Ciuffo]

To all three kids go to. I find they also have four kids.

[Fran Mariano]

And I mean, listen, now I'm kid.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Those three kids go to.

[Fran Mariano]

Now that we're talking this out, like, I define that to be really bizarre. I don't care how close you are. Could be the closest person in the world to you. There are. And there are other close people to you. And if she's the only close person to you, you got to look inward. There's nobody else you're. There's nobody else that means anything to you. It's only Taylor Swift. Means something to you to make the godmother. That's weird. I don't know all children.

[Ria Ciuffo]

And it's also like, what happened to the fourth?

[Fran Mariano]

I never even thought about that.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Is the fourth kid is Taylor Swift not the godmother to their fourth.

[Fran Mariano]

Finally, Blake said to her sister that's.

[Caller]

Married to Bart, Taylor's like, enough.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Yeah. I was like, please, I'll take the three of them, but not the fourth.

[Fran Mariano]

Yeah.

[Caller]

Taylor doesn't have time to have her own kids.

[Fran Mariano]

She's your godmother.

[Ria Ciuffo]

All of them.

[Caller]

Too many.

[Fran Mariano]

God, that is bizarre.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Yeah.

[Fran Mariano]

And not really best friends. First of all.

[Caller]

Were they best friends?

[Fran Mariano]

Yeah.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Yes.

[Caller]

Like, best.

[Fran Mariano]

Best friends, I guess it seems. But not on. It's not bizarre on Taylor's part. I mean, what an honor. Taylor's partner. No, this is such an honor. But weird on Blake Lively's part. Definitely weird up. Like, Lively's part. I can't believe I am just putting this all together.

[Ria Ciuffo]

And Betty are all her. God.

[Caller]

She was fishing to, like, have them mentioned in a song, which they were.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Well, that's after.

[Fran Mariano]

I just think.

[Caller]

No, that's what I'm saying.

[Fran Mariano]

I just think if I was in Blake Lively's family or other friends, I'd be, like, kind of strange. She keeps picking the biggest superstar on the planet to be the godmother of all her children. Not any of us.

[Caller]

Ryan doesn't have any.

[Fran Mariano]

Right. What about Ryan's family?

[Ria Ciuffo]

I don't know.

[Caller]

He's like. Well, I really like. Shut up, Brian.

[Ria Ciuffo]

And do they all know who God.

[Fran Mariano]

And do they have a God? Different. That would be the real question.

[Ria Ciuffo]

We don't know.

[Fran Mariano]

The real test would be if there's a different godfather. Which one?

[Ria Ciuffo]

Yeah. Some people also double up.

[Fran Mariano]

Same godfather.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Like, some people also double up. Maybe, like, Blake's sister, their godmother there, and also Taylor.

[Fran Mariano]

I've never heard anybody doubling up on godparents.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Yeah, I've seen that too.

[Fran Mariano]

Really?

[Ria Ciuffo]

Because when they are. When they're not, like. Like Baptist, like, you're not, you know.

[Fran Mariano]

Yeah.

[Ria Ciuffo]

It's like you kind of do whatever you want, throw the label on people. Because if you're not. If it's not really, like, in the church.

[Fran Mariano]

Right.

[Ria Ciuffo]

You kind of. Like, I have friends that are like. Oh, yeah, that's. I called them. You know, whatever.

[Fran Mariano]

They're like, my God, Those are my godmothers.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Yeah, it's kind of more of a free for all.

[Fran Mariano]

Yeah.

[Ria Ciuffo]

I don't know. I don't know about them, though. But I didn't realize it was all three. I did kind of think it was just one, but it is three. And I keep saying all three, but there. She does have four.

[Fran Mariano]

Sorry.

[Caller]

Fourth one's gonna feel so.

[Fran Mariano]

I'm. I feel like I'm being super judgy about this, but I could be four.

[Ria Ciuffo]

It could be four.

[Caller]

Like, Taylor comes and says hi to only the three.

[Fran Mariano]

The other ones, they all get Christmas presents beside the fourth. Yeah.

[Caller]

Oh, here. Go talk to your normal godmother.

[Fran Mariano]

I mean, wow.

[Ria Ciuffo]

When was the fourth. Fourth child born? 2020. Beginning of 2024.

[Fran Mariano]

Ooh. In the middle of the drama. I don't know.

[Ria Ciuffo]

No, no, no. 2023. 2023, huh?

[Caller]

Like, fourth.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Maybe. It's just. Maybe because their fourth kid is a boy that they went Taylor Swift for all the girls.

[Caller]

I mean, that would make sense.

[Fran Mariano]

Yeah, I guess.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Yeah.

[Caller]

It's Ryan Reynolds. I mean, it's a. Yeah.

[Ria Ciuffo]

I don't know. Yeah, all the girls get Taylor Swift, objectively.

[Fran Mariano]

But there's other women that. That mean something.

[Ria Ciuffo]

No, of course. But maybe they're like, you get to. I don't know. It's pretty sick for all the girls to get to say it, you know? Like, then you're not leaving any of the girls out. It's like, oh, just Betty gets Taylor Swift, and I get Aunt what's Her Face.

[Fran Mariano]

Yeah, but that's so mean to say about Aunt what's Her Face.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Well, no, it just wouldn't be any aunts or uncles. It would be all friends, you know?

[Caller]

Yeah. I'm seeing this. After they welcomed The sun in 2023. Ryan Reynolds said, Taylor Swift is the godparent to my daughters.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Yeah.

[Caller]

So maybe that is why, like.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Yeah, but it's still like, hey, all the girls get Taylor Swift.

[Caller]

You'll never not convince me. That's. That's not weird.

[Fran Mariano]

I agree. I'm fully in agreement with you, Noah. I think it's a little bit.

[Caller]

I think it'd even be weird if it was just like your aunt and she's like, you have other people in your life. Why are you making one person?

[Fran Mariano]

All of them?

[Ria Ciuffo]

Yeah, all of them. I don't know.

[Fran Mariano]

Yeah, it's like, spread the love.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Yeah.

[Fran Mariano]

Weird. Anyways, moving on, I guess. I can't believe we went down that path. And now I. Now I'm like, thinking about this a little bit more. Gleb says he's blindsided by the breakup news of Brooks Nader. So he saw this news online. He said that he reached out, claims.

[Ria Ciuffo]

He saw it online.

[Fran Mariano]

He saw it online. He reached out to Brooks on April 6 was the last time they talked. He texted her wanting to talk on the phone. She didn't answer him. The last time he saw her was April 1 and March 31. Because he went to go support the filming of her reality show. He said. So yeah, he saw her just about a week ago. Maybe cheated on her in between that time period or maybe finds out about it or just found out about something and now is not answering him. And now he's blindsided by the news that they broke up. I mean, sometimes I just can't understand what the hell that could even mean.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Yeah, I. I've seen enough of this guy to be honest. And after. Did you see his TikTok in response?

[Fran Mariano]

No, I didn't. I just saw the articles about it.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Jesus. Let me show you. It's just. You'll be like, of course he did the. The Kardashian sound about the, you know, next this season or. Or is that. Is that. It's not Kardashian. I don't know what the sound is from this one.

[Noah]

Who watches my life and gossips about it? Don't give up.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Season two is about to come.

[Fran Mariano]

Oh, my God.

[Ria Ciuffo]

No, it's barf. Give it a barf. The wink. Like the wink.

[Fran Mariano]

You know what? The whole thing, I've been holding it in.

[Ria Ciuffo]

He plays it up, but plays it up hard.

[Fran Mariano]

Listen, Brooks can do way better than washed up dancer like Gleb. Yeah, sorry. I just ricochet shots, but it's just true.

[Ria Ciuffo]

It's like, look, he's a handsome guy. Yeah.

[Fran Mariano]

It's not that he's not handsome, but from his past relationships and what his ex wife has said, whatever. And, and you know, sky's the limit.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Really, for who Brooks could date.

[Fran Mariano]

That's what I'm saying. Like, Brooks can really. And I'm sure she really liked club, so it's, it's really. So it's kind of messed up to say, you know, she could do better if she really liked him. But I'm just saying, like, you could do better than somebody who's gonna treat you like that. You can do better than a piece of shit who's gonna cheat on, like, one of the most gorgeous women on the earth who's also hilarious and all the things. So it's like, you know, just move on and do better than him. Because he was clearly, he clearly was getting used to the attention, liked what the Naders brought to him and now agreed, he's. He's reaping what he sow might, they say. Is that it? So now he can continue on with that life and now with their, you know, if they start this reality show, whatever they do, they can move on and he's out of the picture and he won't benefit from it.

[Ria Ciuffo]

I. I agree. I think he was mooching.

[Fran Mariano]

He was, he was. He loved the Cloud of the Tick Tock. People loving them.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Exactly. Oh, people being like, oh, my favorite.

[Fran Mariano]

Show'S on and it's them too.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Yep, yep.

[Fran Mariano]

And you know, one time I saw a paparazzi video of them and he looked right in the paparazzo's eyes. And as soon as he looked right in the paparazzo's eyes, he cl. You know, he clenched her hand a little stronger, brought her in. And Brooks is not looking at the paparazzo at all. She's just up in the air looking around. You could tell Gleb looked and he was like, ooh, yeah, ooh, let me get lovey dovey for the camera. You know, he was, he was throwing it on. And I do believe Brooks actually did like him. So, yeah, this is how he's gonna act and be shitty then. She could do better than him.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Absolutely. So, yeah. And I don't know how much I believe of what he says of, you know, finding this out online or whatever. I'm sure you may have had an inkling that something had happened.

[Fran Mariano]

Yes.

[Ria Ciuffo]

If maybe perhaps she wasn't answering her phone. You could write two and two together.

[Fran Mariano]

Right.

[Ria Ciuffo]

That she found something out.

[Fran Mariano]

Right.

[Ria Ciuffo]

And.

[Fran Mariano]

Oh, she didn't want to talk to you.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Yeah.

[Fran Mariano]

Guess why?

[Ria Ciuffo]

Yeah.

[Fran Mariano]

Idiot.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Yep.

[Fran Mariano]

Anyways.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Pants.

[Fran Mariano]

Yeah. Stupid face.

[Ria Ciuffo]

You bet. Let's see your PASA double now. Yeah.

[Fran Mariano]

He's gonna be slipping all over the dance floor on tour now. He's gonna be all messed up. Sydney Sweeney was spotted with her ex Jonathan, getting lunch over the weekend. And let me tell you, she didn't. She did not want to be spotted. Sweatshirt, hood up, sunglasses on. She's like, I don't want to be spotted with my ex. I can't have people thinking I'm back together with this guy. But who knows? Maybe they're just grabbing a lunch to, you know, talk about. Maybe they want to. She wants to get lunch in a public place. She doesn't want to meet him in a private place. They're broken up. She wants it to be public, the whole thing. Who knows?

[Ria Ciuffo]

They probably have some financials to work through.

[Fran Mariano]

Right? They've been together for a long time. Yeah, they've been together a long time.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Things, right. But she's like, animal things, right?

[Fran Mariano]

We're gonna do this in a public place.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Yeah.

[Fran Mariano]

Private setting.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Yeah. But also at the same time, I really don't want to be like, if I'm photographs, she's. She's got a full Damien and Mean girls outfit going with this with, like, a pulled sweatshirt.

[Fran Mariano]

She's, like, photographed with you. I want to look miserable. I want people to not get a little inkling when we're back together. I want them to think, I don't want to be at this lunch with you at all, and I have to. It's strictly business.

[Ria Ciuffo]

And it's so clearly him. You know, it's. He's easy to spot, I feel. And she was definitely. Yeah, they were headed. They were at the Beverly Glen deli, where they casually sat together for about an hour and then left together. Both wore sunglasses while walking Sweeney's dog, Tank. And that was it. Following reports that the two had been living separately, a source told people on Monday, March 31, that Sweeney had been focusing on work amid the end of her engagement. So, yeah, maybe just see some loose ends to tie up.

[Fran Mariano]

They're glad.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Let's go get lunch. Lunch is as casual as it gets, for sure.

[Fran Mariano]

They're grabbing a deli sandwich, maybe chicken salad.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Exactly.

[Fran Mariano]

And they're talking about their. Their splits.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Yeah.

[Fran Mariano]

Yeah. And that's it.

[Ria Ciuffo]

How bad is it that they were having lunch?

[Fran Mariano]

I know. I'm starving right now, and my lunch is out there now. It's been out there. That's okay.

[Ria Ciuffo]

No.

[Fran Mariano]

Enjoy your order. I will. Two and a Half hours later, she.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Yeah, this is, it sucks because really right now, it's, she's gonna be photographed wherever she goes. At this point, I feel like they're, they're, there's some people that I don't think the paparazzi are following around all the time. I do think they are following her around all the time. For sure.

[Fran Mariano]

Yeah, they're, they're trying to get the money shot.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Yeah, for sure. She's, it's, everything with her love life's very hot in the streets right now.

[Fran Mariano]

It would be the perfect sound.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Exactly those. And especially catching her with the, with her ex.

[Fran Mariano]

Oh, golden.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Yeah, exactly.

[Fran Mariano]

When somebody got that, they thought, oh, yep, I'm eating good dinner tonight. Steak dinner tonight, honey.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Exactly. Exactly.

[Fran Mariano]

So, all right, that wraps up today's topics.

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[Fran Mariano]

Welcome back to the Popcorner, where we're going to be taking your voicemails, your hot takes, whatever you want to talk about. If you want to call in and leave us a voicemail, the number is 914-297-7089. We'll be taking these every Wednesday on the Popcorner. So let's get into the first voicemail.

[Caller]

Hey, Ria, Fran and Noah. I have a hot take about weddings. This isn't anything pop culture Related. But since you both are in your bridal era, One of my icks at weddings is when the maid of honor or best man starts their speech with. For those of you who don't know me, if you made it a drinking game, you'd be plastered. So with that said, I was just wondering if you two and no included, have any wedding icks of your own. Thanks, guys. Love you.

[Fran Mariano]

That's a good question. I mean, weddings are so personal. Personal. So, yeah, it's like something you may not like somebody else may love. And especially being so close to my wedding right now, I'm weary of judging other people because it's like, you may like something somebody else doesn't like, and it's your day, so it's really up to you. I will say that does make me cringe. But sometimes, right, you have to say, but also you would hope everyone would know who you are if you are the maid of honor best man. My sister and Matt's brother, matron of honor best man, are not making speeches at our wedding. We're doing them at the rehearsal dinner the night before to kind of cut out the. I don't know. My sister is terrified of public speaking. Quite the opposite of me. Like, absolutely, absolutely terrified. So that kind of make it an.

[Caller]

Easier decision at her wedding, right?

[Fran Mariano]

Well, her, she had a backyard wedding because of COVID I made this speech. She ended up having her bridal shower after she got married. And I made the speech there. But it made the decision easier because she is so terrified of public speaking to not do the speeches at the wedding. Because, you know, it's really gotta be a sweet spot. You know, it really depends. Some can be super cringy, and you're like, why the hell are they saying this right now? And others are really sweet and heartfelt and funny. So, God, it could really go either way.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Yeah. I love us. I love a speech. It's kind of one of my favorite parts of a wedding, which I know is maybe not the most popular opinion. Sometimes people are like, ah, wrap it up, you know, But I love listening to the speeches and hearing what people have to say about the. About the couple is one of my favorite things. I don't necessarily have a lot of icks, but I. I will say if the couple and I feel like this is more maybe celebrity based or, you know, performer based, but I've seen it done before as well. Any kind of special performance, like a choreographer for the bride or groom. Like, the bride comes, like, the groom sits in a chair and the bride Does a little performance, a little dance or a song or something. Or vice versa. I'm just kind of like, this feels.

[Caller]

What about like a.

[Ria Ciuffo]

This feels like maybe not a. For a crowd.

[Fran Mariano]

Yeah. You know, Moment.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Yeah.

[Caller]

Does that include, like, a choreographed dance between the two? I just saw one the other day.

[Ria Ciuffo]

No, no, Like. Like. Like between the bride and groom. No, Like, I'm talking about, like, just one of them.

[Caller]

Yeah.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Like, the bride is sitting down and the groom stance. Yeah.

[Fran Mariano]

Yeah. Like, she was a cheerleader, and then she brings out the whole team and they do it.

[Caller]

Yeah.

[Fran Mariano]

But if you're super talented, it could be really entertaining and look like.

[Ria Ciuffo]

If I think about Meghan Trainor's wedding, I think about what. What d. Whole. The whole performance, I'm like, that was entertainment. Really? It's quite entertainment. But when you're gonna do it, it.

[Fran Mariano]

Has to be like.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Yeah. It has to be over the. You have to go 150%. Even if you're going, like, 90, it still could be like.

[Fran Mariano]

Yeah. And it's got to be. You got to be talented and over the top. And if you're not talented, it's got to be.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Yeah.

[Fran Mariano]

Funny in some capacity. There's a lot of pressure for some sort of choreographed routine. Y. I haven't seen anything lately that I've been like, ooh, I hate when people do that, you know?

[Ria Ciuffo]

Yeah.

[Fran Mariano]

I don't have any either. I think it's really up to the couple.

[Caller]

I also can't think of anything. Like, I usually just have a good time when I go to wedding.

[Fran Mariano]

Right. That's another thing.

[Caller]

I'm not like, wow, what the fuck?

[Fran Mariano]

Right?

[Caller]

Yeah. It's hard to think of anything that I'm like, weird. Yeah. There's sometimes bad speeches, but that's inevitable.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Yeah.

[Fran Mariano]

Right. Sometimes with a speech, when someone's, like, tells a long story that no one cares, like a story from childhood that only you two would find is funny. Whatever. It's like, I feel like you can keep those in. Only my dad is doing a speech, which is really funny because he brings it up every day. And I can tell he's really nervous, but keeps telling me, like, it's going to be okay. And I'm like, I'm not worried. I think.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Yeah.

[Fran Mariano]

I think you're telling me it's going to be okay because you're the one who's worried.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Sometimes they have to. You know, you got to talk yourself into it. I think maybe also from going to so many weddings in a Catholic church and also just having any Kind of like religious ceremony in the same realm of, you know, for those of you who don't know me, it's just like, you get. You get the ick because you've just heard it so many times. I sometimes feel the same with, and I'm sure so many people out here and listening have used it or done it because it's by far the most popular, and I love it every time I hear it. But also, I'm like, it's. It's done every single time. Is. Is it Corinthians? Love is patient, Love is kind. Love is this. It's just that reading, I think, is maybe it's got to be the most popular.

[Fran Mariano]

Yeah.

[Ria Ciuffo]

One done at every ceremony. As far as, like, the same world of. For those of you don't know me, it's like you. You get annoyed by it because you've heard it 50 times.

[Fran Mariano]

Right.

[Caller]

But I would say when the, like, the officiant would actually be the guy who I'd be most annoyed by. Like, if he's not, like, in the family or whoever he is. Like, if he's trying to, like, make the show about him, you know, that's.

[Ria Ciuffo]

That's a good one. That's a good one.

[Caller]

They're good. But if they're not, it's just like, all right, man, just move it.

[Ria Ciuffo]

No, I. In the. In the realm of that. I've been to some where it's been very clear that the either, you know, priest or efficient doesn't know the couple at all.

[Fran Mariano]

Yeah.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Like, that's where I've been like, ooh. Like, they've maybe made comments. I'm like, what? Yeah. I'm like, okay, you spent 20 minutes with these people. You're. And you're. You're trying to make it sound like you know them and you don't.

[Fran Mariano]

One. One more Ick. I actually just thought of mine. The bridal party entrances into the. Which, if it's just being announced, love it. Yeah. I want to know. Welcome. Let's. Let's throw our hands in the air and clap for the.

[Ria Ciuffo]

For the.

[Fran Mariano]

For the bridal party. The. Like, oh, I'm gonna fake throw you a football and, like, do the. Oh, my God. Like, do the whole thing, like.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Yeah, yeah, that. Yeah.

[Fran Mariano]

I. You know, I just.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Some of them.

[Fran Mariano]

Some of them are creative and cute, and some of them just, like, we've seen it before.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Yes. I get what you're saying. It's not that the whole idea of it is an ick. It's that it's Just the same thing are done all the time. Right.

[Fran Mariano]

Because you should welcome everybody into the party. Everybody should clap for the bride and groom and the parents and all that. But it's like the go long.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Go long.

[Fran Mariano]

I'm gonna fake passion of football, and it's gonna be my PK and the whole thing. Like, it's like, sometimes I just wish the bride and groom would tell their friends, like, don't worry about doing the entrances. Just get out there and say hi. Like, just, like, throw your hands at the end. Like, you can just walk out and that's it.

[Caller]

Because a lot of times you're running.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Into someone you don't know.

[Fran Mariano]

Yeah.

[Ria Ciuffo]

That's something that I feel has transitioned out a little bit too.

[Fran Mariano]

It has.

[Ria Ciuffo]

For sure. I have not been to a lot of weddings where they've done that recently. It's been a couple years. Although I did go to one where, oh, my God, they did it so well. Every pairing had, like, a full routine, and it was top notch.

[Fran Mariano]

When it's done like that, it's spectacular. I went to one last summer, but.

[Ria Ciuffo]

It'S awkward when everyone doesn't know what to do when they half ass it.

[Fran Mariano]

I went to one last summer where they were coming downstairs.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Yeah.

[Fran Mariano]

And they did a little lift. Boom. Fell flat on the face. And that is not an entrance you want to be a part of. Okay. Also the amount of entrances. Because Matt has been in, like, 14 weddings at this point. Every single time he's about to do one of these, I can't help but make fun of him. I'm like, ooh, what are you gonna do? A fake dribble?

[Caller]

Does he have a go to?

[Ria Ciuffo]

No.

[Fran Mariano]

I mean, he leaves it up to whoever the bridesmaid put a shot up. He says he always leaves it up to whatever bridesmaid he's walking out with them. Pick.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Yeah.

[Fran Mariano]

And he'll be like, she wants to do the toss.

[Ria Ciuffo]

And I'm like, you gotta do it.

[Fran Mariano]

And I'm standing there just, like, waiting to make fun of him. I'm like, you got it. But I just can't. I can't wait to make fun of him when he gets back to his seat. Like, you did the toss again. Great job.

[Ria Ciuffo]

So funny, though.

[Fran Mariano]

That's one of them where it's like, entrances are fine, but, you know, some of them are overdone.

[Caller]

Hi, Rio, Fran and Noah. This is Courtney from Boston. I'm calling because I have a. I guess a friend of a friend. I'll say a tangential friend who ended a friendship over baby names. So I want your opinion on this. She, I guess her best friend growing up, she told her for years, you know, what she wanted to name her future baby that didn't exist yet. And come to find out, the friend stole the baby name and used it for her daughter when she had a kid before the other friend did. So I know this happens often, and I know, like, even, like, amongst siblings, if there's a family name, you know, this could happen. Is this something that you would qualify as a friendship ender for these. These two girls? They're no longer friends because of this. In my mind, I'm like, this can't be something that you're ending a friendship over. Like, just name your kids the same thing. What do you care? I don't know. What's your opinion on this? I'm curious to hear. Thanks. I'm a big fan.

[Ria Ciuffo]

I don't know if I'm ending the friendship, but I'm pissed off for sure. I'm pissed off.

[Fran Mariano]

I agree. I don't think it's a friendship ender. I think it's something you can come back from.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Yeah.

[Fran Mariano]

But I think it's fucking bizarre.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Yeah.

[Fran Mariano]

If you tell somebody forever that you love a name, you want to name your kid this, da, da, da da, and they fucking steal it for you. There's a million names in the world. There's a million names in the world. Pick another name. If you were the first one to say that name, There are things that you can get the same of and copy. You can even name your kids the same thing.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Yeah.

[Fran Mariano]

If your friend names their child whatever.

[Ria Ciuffo]

It'S like your best friend.

[Fran Mariano]

But if it's your best friend. But if, say your friend names their child whatever, it's not your best friend, but it's a friend.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Yeah.

[Fran Mariano]

And you say, you know, I really love that name. It's like, oh, name your whatever.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Totally.

[Fran Mariano]

You guys are in a. Well, sure, go for it. But if it's your best friend in the world and you've been talking about this name, that is weird behavior.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Yeah, that's a little.

[Fran Mariano]

I. I would never think about doing that.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Never.

[Fran Mariano]

Like you had said you want to name your child Francesca, your daughter. Imagine I name my daughter Francesca. It would be.

[Ria Ciuffo]

That would be.

[Fran Mariano]

It would be an honor. See, now, any other name, Any other name. Francesca's.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Because that's your name.

[Fran Mariano]

But you would be like, yes, if.

[Ria Ciuffo]

I had a name. Like, if I had a name that I have been telling you for years. Yeah, that's on my, you know, Top of my list.

[Fran Mariano]

Right?

[Ria Ciuffo]

And you had a kid before me and you were like, this is her name. I'd be like, what the fuck?

[Fran Mariano]

I would, like, change it.

[Ria Ciuffo]

I'd be like, let me see the birth certificate. Cross it out.

[Caller]

I want to know when she.

[Fran Mariano]

I would just be like, that's bizarre.

[Caller]

Did you tell her? Like, I'm sure she didn't find out when it was born. Like, I'm sure she told her ahead of time. Does that change?

[Ria Ciuffo]

I don't know. I don't.

[Caller]

Like, if they came to you being like, hey, I know that this was your name.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Well, that's almost even worse because then she's like. Because if the friend is like, oh, okay. Like, she did it anyway. It's not like, even if the friend was like, yeah, I really.

[Fran Mariano]

I don't think it's a friendship ender, but it's definitely.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Really? Yeah, yeah. It's like, of all things, you know that your best friend has had this name locked in for forever and you just take it.

[Fran Mariano]

Yeah, that's.

[Ria Ciuffo]

I'm not gonna lie. Did you guys see the clips of Kaitlyn Marceau talking about.

[Fran Mariano]

I was just gonna bring that up.

[Ria Ciuffo]

And so Caitlyn on her podcast said that she. That Jason had always known that Teddy was on the top of her list for a baby name and that she always wanted to name her son Teddy or Teddy Teddy. Yeah. And. But I was trying to think if it was. She just loved the name Teddy. And Jason gets a new dog and names the dog Teddy. And people are picking her apart. They're saying, this is so dramatic. No, this is like, oh, she needs to calm down. This is not a big deal. It's just a dog. Sorry. No, I'd be pissed.

[Fran Mariano]

No, I'd be pissed too. Listen, there are some things that keep.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Makes it worse that it's a dog, right?

[Fran Mariano]

I think it's. I think it's bizarre. You can name your dog whatever you want. There's a million dollar names. Name it fucking Fluffy. Whatever.

[Ria Ciuffo]

What's even weird is name it. He put out like a.

[Caller]

You know why he did. He's doing. He's doing to piss her off.

[Ria Ciuffo]

No, but he put out a weird. That's weird.

[Caller]

It's weird.

[Ria Ciuffo]

That's weird. That's weird behavior.

[Fran Mariano]

Petty weird behavior.

[Ria Ciuffo]

It's weir weird.

[Fran Mariano]

That's weird.

[Ria Ciuffo]

I'm sorry. And he put out like a. He put out a public poll when he got the dog because he didn't have a name for the dog yet. He put out a public poll of like, hey, what should I name my dog? Everyone, like, vote. Like, what should I name my dog? And he still went with Teddy. And I'm sure people sent Teddy a lot, but it's like, oh, maybe go with pick number two. Like, I think that was his excuse to be like, well, the public said.

[Fran Mariano]

People said Teddy.

[Ria Ciuffo]

So I'm gonna go, Teddy.

[Fran Mariano]

The people wanted Teddy.

[Caller]

Like, really bad names.

[Ria Ciuffo]

No.

[Caller]

Right?

[Fran Mariano]

No, the people wanted Teddy. No, I think that's ridiculous. And there are other things that Caitlin said that, you know, I think it's fine to disagree with. The podcast thing, the gym thing with. Yeah, whatever.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Right.

[Fran Mariano]

But the name.

[Ria Ciuffo]

No, the name Teddy is a.

[Fran Mariano]

Would be really bizarre to see from an X I got.

[Ria Ciuffo]

This is like. And I'm. You know, the caller is probably gonna be like, wow. I. You know, they really disagree with me. But I. Baby names are. Are funky like that. Because you just have an idea. Like, I have had an idea. I'm not even gonna. I'm not gonna say it, but I had, like, a. Like a. Not even close to me at all Person just have a baby and. And use the name that I like. Yes. And I was like, ah, I can't use it now. And Joe was like, what are you talking about? Like, of course you can use it now. He's like, no, she's not there. I'm copying her.

[Fran Mariano]

What's the name? I can't.

[Ria Ciuffo]

I'm not saying. Because it's still in the running.

[Fran Mariano]

You can cut it out.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Oh, no. But I'll tell you after.

[Fran Mariano]

Okay, now I want to know. But you could still use it.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Yeah, no, I know, I know. But now I thought it was so fun, and now it just feels less unique, you know, because it felt, like, less popular. But now I'm like, oh, is it going. You know. Anyway, baby names are weird.

[Fran Mariano]

They are people.

[Ria Ciuffo]

They do. They do. And I'm sorry, if. If. If it was like, you or Claire or somebody that I've known for, like, a really long time that I've. That is like, I've. And they just were like, you know what I'm naming my kid? You've been talking about naming your kid for. I'd be like, what the.

[Fran Mariano]

That would be. That would be crazy. That would really be insane. It would be. And if you.

[Ria Ciuffo]

And it also. I think it's kind of weird if the friend's response is, hey, well, you can use the name too. It's like, fuck you, I guess.

[Fran Mariano]

No, no, no. I think that's weird.

[Caller]

Would you, though, like, if your friends.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Would do you wouldn't need to.

[Fran Mariano]

No.

[Caller]

Because you don't want to have this. But if you, if you're like you, we're not friends, then why not name it?

[Fran Mariano]

I know I would. Because I don't want the story behind my kid's name to be something petty.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Fran Mariano]

I would just be like, all right, we're time to move on to option number two. Yeah, it is what it is.

[Ria Ciuffo]

And it's like you're mad, you're probably mad for a little bit, but then you get over and you name your kid something else and you move on. But you just like if I have little Maddie and. And Rhea has little Maddie, like we. And like, sorry, I went with Matt's literal name. But it's like, like we'd be like, oh, that's Maddie. Little Maddie Cahill and little Maddie Riley. Like we have to like guess, throw their last names into it. Like, you know you're gonna name the kids the same thing. Yeah. Damn, we do too much together already. Imagine children the same name.

[Fran Mariano]

Yeah, that would be out of control. No, it would be crazy. Damn, that's right.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Can't do that.

[Fran Mariano]

No, they can't.

[Caller]

Hi, Ria Franoa, this is Kara from Newport Beach, California. Love your show. Love you guys. Highlight of my week. My question for you is about Teresa Giudice and everything that's going on with her and Louie and bankruptcy. Like, do we really think Theresa had no clue what was going on? Like, what are your guys thoughts on their relationship, this dynamic and now like her financial troubles all over again. I feel like there's no way she could have been ignorant again to all of this drama. But you know, maybe she really was. So would love to hear your guys opinions on this. Thanks so much. Love you guys so much. Bye.

[Ria Ciuffo]

I think she was. I think she was. I think she lives in La La Land. I really do. Like, if you just hear, if you even not on the show, interviews, bubble, whatever. She seems very sweet, but she is like, I think she just is living in La La Land. I think she falls in love and she believes whatever these guys are telling her.

[Fran Mariano]

It seems like she doesn't communicate with her partners whatsoever in any capacity. But if she just goes, yeah, he loves me, I love him.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Right? And I think she just goes with like whatever they. But if Louie's like, babe, everything's fine and you can talk to my guy and what Louie's guy's gonna say the same, you know, everything's fine.

[Fran Mariano]

I just don't know how I could believe it twice that she really has nothing, has no idea. Maybe she plays the stupid act with some things and she, I don't know, she has some idea with the money or is she that aloof? Is she that, you know, has no idea what's going on?

[Ria Ciuffo]

To be honest, yeah. It's even less her and more that I think that these guys are so shady behind the scenes that he's keeping a secret from everybody.

[Fran Mariano]

Yeah.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Where it's. Maybe she's not thinking that she needs to be digging in.

[Fran Mariano]

She's clearly not asking questions.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Yeah.

[Fran Mariano]

You know.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Yeah.

[Fran Mariano]

She's not asking the right questions.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Right.

[Fran Mariano]

Because she keeps finding herself in these situations.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Yeah. It's just like if when he goes to work, who knows what he's doing kind of thing. Like what. What other weird shady business and shit doing.

[Fran Mariano]

Might not even care.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. At this point, she doesn't. At this point, I really feel like they're like, la, la, Everything's fine. We'll figure it out. Missing out on a show that everyone is talking about isn't an option for us. We're constantly signing up for new streaming services. And then a few months later, you realize, I've been paying for this service for way longer than I should have. You know the show's already done. Rocket Money is a personal finance app that helps find and cancel your unwanted subscriptions, monitors your spending, and helps lower your bills so you can grow your savings. See all of your subscriptions in one place and know exactly where your money is going. For ones you don't want anymore, Rocket Money can help you cancel them. Rocket Money has over 5 million users and has saved a total of $500 million in canceled subscriptions, saving members up to $740 a year when using all the app's premium features. It's so easy. I have signed up for so many things, so many trials that I forgotten about, and Rocket Money will cancel them for you. So cancel your unwanted subscriptions and reach your financial goals faster with Rocket Money. Go to RocketMoney.com chicks today. That's RocketMoney.com chicks. RocketMoney.com chicks.

[Fran Mariano]

All right, let's do one last one.

[Caller]

Hi, Ria, Fran and Noah. My name's Ashton and I'm from Illinois. Looking forward to Jonas Con this weekend. Sky Stage is going to be awesome with.

[Ria Ciuffo]

It was.

[Fran Mariano]

It was epic.

[Caller]

My calls about this video I keep seeing on TikTok. Basically it's asking what five drinks you would choose to be. An endless spout on each of your fingers. My five would probably be between Diet Dr. Pepper, Strawberry Acai, or however you say it, water to, you know, exist. Wine and apple juice. Maybe if I could figure out a way for espresso to be coffee in the morning and a martini at night, that could make the list. What are your guys? Five drinks. Looking forward to hearing from you guys. Thanks. Bye.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Is it bad that my mind immediately went to alcohol when she said that? Like, like my mind immediately was like, ooh, like a glass of red dirty martini. Like, I didn't even think. Like she, she said water and I went, oh, shit. Water, huh? Is that's, that's. This is not an alcohol only questions.

[Fran Mariano]

Mine went straight to Coca Cola, which I'm not proud of either. Honestly. I would say water, Arnold Palmer, like an iced tea, lemonade, Coca Cola. I'm gonna throw alcohol in there. I'll go red wine.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Yeah.

[Fran Mariano]

And then the last one is tough. I'll put espresso in there because I've been liking just a quick single shot of espresso in the mornings.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Yeah. That's lovely. Wow, that's so Italian of you.

[Fran Mariano]

It is pretty Italian, but I just do it.

[Caller]

But I feel like. But then you only use that finger.

[Fran Mariano]

Like for a quick shot.

[Caller]

For a quick shot, like once a day.

[Fran Mariano]

Right, But I, I mean, yeah, but.

[Ria Ciuffo]

You got to get the caffeine somewhere.

[Fran Mariano]

I'm not gonna be drinking the Coca Cola every day.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Yeah, yeah.

[Fran Mariano]

I would do water, Arnold Palmer, Coca cola, red wine and espresso.

[Ria Ciuffo]

I think I'm gonna get a little fancy. I'm gonna go with like a, like a sparkling water with lemon.

[Fran Mariano]

Nice.

[Ria Ciuffo]

That's gonna be my. That's gonna be my water. But. But jazz it up a little bit so it's not just water. Diet Coke.

[Fran Mariano]

Yep. Give me the hard stuff.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Yeah, I think I would just go unsweetened black iced tea, dirty martini already mixed. Yeah, it's gotta vodka. Yeah. I mean, it's a spout, so. Right.

[Fran Mariano]

Like it'll be nice.

[Caller]

Blue cheese, olives come out of the family.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Yeah, yeah. Dirty martini.

[Fran Mariano]

That's the other hand.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Right?

[Caller]

Yeah.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Right. Imagine that in the last two, I'm like vodka olive juice and it's a good. That's a last one is tough because I'm torn between like champagne or like a rose or a beer. Honestly, sometimes it's just a good old fashioned beer.

[Fran Mariano]

Yeah.

[Caller]

Like in the summer if you had Corona just in your hand.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Yeah. Now I'm gonna go rose.

[Fran Mariano]

Nice.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Cold.

[Fran Mariano]

It has to be cold. Cold. Oh, well, I'm hoping you can get the temperatures on them as well.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Yeah, right.

[Fran Mariano]

The espresso has to be hot.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Yeah.

[Fran Mariano]

I want the rest to be cold because I want a chilled red wine. I don't want it to be room temperature.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Yeah. Yep.

[Fran Mariano]

A chilled red, please.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Yep. That's.

[Fran Mariano]

How about you?

[Caller]

I would make one of them probably red Gatorade.

[Fran Mariano]

That's solid.

[Caller]

I think one of them water. That'd be so nice to just like wake up in the middle night, like just suck your thumb.

[Fran Mariano]

Oh, my God. Yeah, that's why the thumb would be water. I agree.

[Caller]

I think one would be old fashioned. So that's three dirty martini. Honestly, I would.

[Ria Ciuffo]

But when you're feeling fancy, you gotta be able to plot something, you know?

[Caller]

Yeah. And then I would do. I would do a.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Just.

[Caller]

Cause I had it the other day at the movie theater. I would do like a root beer.

[Fran Mariano]

Nice.

[Caller]

Nice root beer.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Ooh, I love a good root beer, but I just don't think I drink it enough that it would go on the hand.

[Fran Mariano]

Go on the finger.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Yeah, yeah.

[Fran Mariano]

Damn.

[Caller]

But why don't you.

[Fran Mariano]

Now I'm looking at my finger.

[Caller]

There's certain sodas where you're like, why don't I always have. Why don't I have ducks?

[Fran Mariano]

Dr. Pepper More my guilty pleasure. Soda is an orange soda. I love orange soda. Every time I have Chinese food, I have an orange soda.

[Caller]

I love a great, great.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Root beer is a lot of sugar.

[Caller]

But if you have. Here's the thing. It's like, everyone's like, diet Coke. Diet Coke. That's the most popular drink. Why not Diet Dr. Pepper?

[Fran Mariano]

I love Diet Dr. Pepper. Fair.

[Ria Ciuffo]

I don't like. I mean, I prefer a Diet Coke over. I love. I prefer Coke over Dr. Pepper.

[Fran Mariano]

Yeah, yeah. Now I'm looking at my fingers differently and I'm like, give it to me, give it to me.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Yeah.

[Fran Mariano]

All right, that wraps up the voicemails. Once again, if you want to call in with your hot takes, your questions, you want to talk pop culture, really, whatever you want to talk about, call in at 914-297-7089. And we'll be taking your questions every single Wednesday on the Popcorner. All right, that wraps up today's episode of Chicks in the Office. Thank you so much for watching and listening. We love you guys. Obviously. Thanks for listening to the best show on ear th as usual. Love you so much. And we'll talk to you on Friday.