Celebrity Gossip w/ Justin Sylvester + Owning Manhattan's Chloe Tucker Caine Interview

Summary

Chicks in the Office — "Celebrity Gossip w/ Justin Sylvester + Owning Manhattan's Chloe Tucker Caine Interview"

Release Date: December 5, 2025
Hosts: Ria & Fran (Barstool Sports)
Guests: Justin Sylvester (celebrity host), Chloe Tucker Caine (Owning Manhattan), plus cameo by Hunter & Holland for trivia

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Episode Overview

This high-energy episode of Chicks in the Office is a pop culture buffet featuring:

• A deep-dish chat with celebrity host Justin Sylvester on Hollywood gossip, reality TV crossovers, and celebrity encounters (especially Scarlett Johansson).
• An in-studio interview with Chloe Tucker Caine from Netflix's Owning Manhattan, unearthing the dance between real estate, reality TV, and Broadway dreams.
• The always-iconic trivia face-off, "Beatrie and Fran," bringing in listeners for pop culture stumping. The tone is lively, gossipy, candid, and laced with the signature quick wit and camaraderie Ria and Fran are known for.

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Key Segments & Insights

I. Justin Sylvester Joins for Weekly Gossip Radar

Starts ~02:09

1. Justin's NYC Whirlwind & Star-Heavy Week

• Justin has been spending time with Kyle Richards and Scarlett Johansson.
• He raves about Scarlett’s confidence and presence, especially during her recent hosting stints.
  • "I've never met a woman more confident in my life." (Justin, 02:52)
  • "She called me the king of f**ing Hollywood."* (Justin, 04:36)
• Discussion about celebrities transitioning into hosting roles, taking seats from seasoned hosts like Justin himself.

2. Scorpio Energy: Confidence & Success

• They reflect on how some women, like Scarlett or Oprah, seem to have “figured out” who they are early on, and how financial success can embolden that persona.
  • "There's something about a woman who just knows who she is." (Justin, 06:17)
  • "She's also very rich. That helps." (Fran & Justin, 06:52)

3. Hair & Makeup Artists: The Real Gatekeepers

• Anecdotes about how the real backstage dirt often comes from hair and makeup teams.
  • "The hair and makeup artists know everything." (Fran, 08:56)
  • Justin shares a story about a celebrity tracking leaks by spreading multiple versions of a sensitive story—real Hollywood detective work.

4. Football, Reality Hot Seat, and the Taylor Swift Effect

• Justin discusses his role on Sunday Night Football’s Reality Hot Seat—crossing sports, reality TV, and pop culture.
  • "It's for the guy who loves football and for the girl who pretends like she does." (Justin, 26:05)
• Speculation on Taylor Swift’s attendance at Chiefs games and Blake Lively possibly joining her:
  • "If Taylor shows up with Blake Lively…that would give me three hours of content." (Justin, 18:07)
• Reflections on the Chiefs' struggles and parallels to past celeb-athlete dramas (Jessica Simpson/Tony Romo).
  • "His check engine light's on." (Justin, 18:53)

5. Pop Culture Deep Dive: Movie Rights Messes & ‘Oscar Curses’

• Discussion of ongoing Blake Lively/Justin Baldoni drama and the Colleen Hoover book adaptations.
• Sympathy for everyone involved in the messy production:
  • "No one wins at this point…everyone loses." (Justin, 20:33)
• Skepticism about sequels and movie rights issues:
  • "Zero reason to make the second one." (Ria, 21:57)
• Anne Hathaway's career-strategy praised for alternating visibility to avoid audience fatigue.
  • "I like Anne Hathaway because…I'll put my sht out for a year, and then I'll hide for a year…"* (Justin, 22:37)

6. Euphoria S3 and the Risk of High Expectations

• Anticipation for Euphoria S3, the creator’s bold claims, and cast age jumps.
  • "Season three better be better. You had six years to think about it…All these motherf**ers are 30."* (Justin, 25:28)
• Spoilers: Cassie and Nate reportedly getting married.

7. Fashion Real Talk: Birkins, Priorities & Quiet Luxury

• Extensive, hilarious breakdown of how to spot a fake Birkin and the psychology of matching luxury accessories to lifestyle.
  • "If you're walking out of your car into a locker room and your Birkin looks a little stiff and a little fake, I'ma call your ass out." (Justin, 27:08)
• Justin’s client stories: two separate Birkin-smelling rooms, E.J. Johnson’s “Birkin test” in clubs.
• Spirited rundown of the etiquette of fashion flexing vs. being “bad with your money.”
  • "If you have a Range Rover Sport and two roommates at 40…your priorities aren’t straight." (Justin, 31:57)
• "Quiet luxury" vs. "loud money" debate; hair and shoes as the real tells of style.

8. Nails, Maintenance, & Friendship ‘Bullying’

• Wildly relatable spiral about nail routines, peer pressure, and the “Russian manicure wave.”
  • "If you have more than 2mm between your cuticles and your last manicure, bitch, we're fighting." (Justin, 34:04)

9. Spotify Wrapped: The Ultimate Validation or Algorithmic Mess?

• They dissect their Spotify Wrapped results, the basicness of posting, and the anxiety over “off” results.
  • "That's a basic white girl and gay thing. The basic white gays do it. The basic white girls do it." (Justin, 38:34)
• Fran’s wrapped glitched—her top song surprised even her. Justin’s is “Morgan Wallen problematic,” and Ria’s is “bubblegum pop.”
• Separating art vs. the artist—mini debate citing Morgan Wallen, R. Kelly.

10. Variety’s “Actors on Actors” Pairings—Predictions & Hot Takes

• The group analyzes the oddest and most intriguing pairs: Ariana Grande/Adam Sandler, Gwyneth Paltrow/Jacob Elordi, Anne Hathaway/J.Lo.
• General consensus: Julia Roberts should have been paired with someone younger, Kate Hudson and Jeremy Allen White will flirt, and Jennifer Lawrence will pull “unhinged” fun out of Leo.

11. Hollywood Beef: Quentin Tarantino vs. Paul Dano

• Tarantino called Paul Dano "the weakest actor in SAG" and “limpest dick in the world” over There Will Be Blood.
  • "He pissed him off, and he's been waiting for years…" (Justin, 52:48)
• Hosts note this may ironically help Dano get more (contrarian) roles.

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II. Chloe Tucker Caine Interview — Owning Manhattan

Starts ~58:07

1. Chloe’s Path: From Broadway Dreams to Real Estate Queen

• Chloe details her unique journey: musical theater background, landing the lead in Mamma Mia at her very first audition, moving from bartending to Airbnb entrepreneur to real estate star.
  • "No one told me I wasn’t good enough but me, when I really think about it." (Chloe, 61:18)

2. Blending Theatrical Flair with Real Estate Hustle

• Discusses merging performance skills with real estate—literally putting on a show to sell properties (including staging actual musicals in townhouses to lure buyers).
  • "It's all a performance. Places, people, it's time to start the show." (Chloe, 64:45)

3. The Reality TV Experience

• Chloe talks about the “weirdness” of living a year ahead of what’s airing, her initial anxieties over edits, and the thrill/fear of seeing “real life” translated for Netflix.
• She emphasizes that Owning Manhattan is less manufactured drama and more, "Success-ion with real deals."
  • "We're going to take your real lives and set it up looking like succession…You're really seeing us fight each other—not necessarily on a personal level." (Chloe, 67:58)

4. Navigating Friendship, Trust, and Betrayal on TV

• Recounts her on-and-off friendship with Jade and how reality TV blurs lines between real emotion and storyline creation.
  • "I literally thought Jade, my best friend, was making up a storyline that her husband was cheating on her…It turned out that wasn't the case—he really was cheating." (Chloe, 74:00)

5. Owning Her Broadway Ambitions (and Defying Self-Doubt)

• Chloe is candid about wresting with self-esteem and expectations, especially after theater “setbacks,” and her plans to fuse both passions.
  • "I want to do Broadway. I want to do Dancing with the Stars, and I want to be able to perform at night and do real estate by day." (Chloe, 78:00)
• She talks about not wanting her daughter to inherit her anxieties and manifesting big opportunities.

6. Real Estate Hot Tips

• “There’s always a catch in New York City…you need somewhere with good light, a good building, a doorman you love.” (Chloe, 80:43)
• Talks candidly about rental scams on TikTok, advises renters to have docs and deposits ready (“If it looks too good to be true, it is!”).

7. Behind the Scenes: Musical Salesmanship

• Chloe elaborates on producing an actual musical staged in a townhouse to help it sell—her multi-hyphenate career in action.

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III. "Beatrie and Fran" Trivia Segment

Starts ~90:22

• Listener guests (Hunter and Holland) join for a trivia face-off—15 questions on pop culture (from Love is Blind and The Princess Bride to Lizzie McGuire lyrics).
• Notable moments:
  • Ria’s self-deprecating humor: “I have never felt worse at trivia than I do today.” (105:38)
  • Fran’s deadpan on fashion: “Where are the priorities? Let me tell you something.” (30:49)
• Final Score: Hunter and Holland win. "You beat the crap out of us and you get shirts that say you beat us," Fran jokes (113:52).

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

"I've never met a woman more confident in my life. Never in my life." — Justin Sylvester on Scarlett Johansson (02:52)

"If you have a Range Rover Sport and two roommates at 40…your priorities aren’t straight." — Justin Sylvester (31:09)

"It's for the guy who loves football and for the girl who pretends like she does." — Justin Sylvester on Reality Hot Seat (26:05)

"If Taylor [Swift] shows up with Blake Lively…that would give me three hours of content." — Justin Sylvester (18:07)

"No one told me I wasn’t good enough but me, when I really think about it." — Chloe Tucker Caine (61:18)

"It's all a performance. Places, people, it's time to start the show." — Chloe Tucker Caine (64:45)

"That's a basic white girl and gay thing. The basic white gays do it. The basic white girls do it." — Justin Sylvester on Spotify Wrapped (38:34)

"There’s always a catch in New York City." — Chloe Tucker Caine (88:14)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

| Timestamp | Segment | Details | |-----------|-----------------------------------|-------------------------------------------------------------------| | 02:09 | Justin Sylvester Interview Start | Weekly catch-up, Scarlett Johansson, “King of Hollywood” | | 06:52 | Rich & Confident Women | Oprah and ScarJo—power, confidence, and authenticity | | 08:34 | Backstage Celebrity Stories | Hair & makeup teams, Hollywood leaks | | 12:20 | Football/Pop Culture Broadcast | Reality Hot Seat, Chiefs, Taylor Swift segment | | 20:33 | Book Adaptation Drama | Blake Lively/Justin Baldoni/Colleen Hoover movie adaptation mess | | 22:37 | Anne Hathaway/J.Lo Career Paths | | | 25:28 | Euphoria Season 3 Hype | Six-year wait, cast age topic | | 27:08 | Fashion Priorities/Birkins | How to spot fakes, stories of luxury mismatches | | 34:04 | Nails and Peer Pressure | The Russian manicure wave, self-care & friend “bullying” | | 38:34 | Spotify Wrapped | Validation, algorithm angst, “basic” debate | | 45:00 | Trivia Segment Start | Beatrie and Fran with Hunter & Holland | | 58:07 | Chloe Tucker Caine Interview | Real estate, Broadway, reality TV, and hustling in Manhattan | | 80:43 | Real Estate Hot Takes | NY property advice, scamming data, and bargaining | | 90:22 | Trivia Returns | Games, laughs, pop culture knowledge tested | | 113:52 | Trivia Results Wrap | Hunter and Holland declared winners |

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Tone & Style

• Light-hearted, witty, often self-deprecating
• Candid opinions about pop culture, but with affection
• Blend of sharp humor and sincerity (especially regarding career insecurities, therapy, and confidence)

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Takeaways for Listeners

• Justin Sylvester’s stories offer a peek behind Hollywood’s "velvet rope" and how celebrity culture and hosting gigs are evolving.
• Chloe Tucker Caine’s candidness demystifies reality TV production, the grit behind real estate, and chasing big dreams even after “wins” and “losses.”
• The show is ultimately about women supporting women—calling out the mess while also rooting for growth, whether in music, film, business, or personal life.

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For Pop Culture Fans Who Haven’t Heard the Episode:

You’ll walk away with tons of Hollywood insider tea (Scarlett Johansson is as cool as advertised), real estate shenanigans (NYC never changes), and feel both seen and roasted for your Spotify Wrapped—and you just might check your nails.

Transcript

[Ria]

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[Fran]

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[Two Chicks Getting Paid (Podcast Hosts)]

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[Fran]

What's up everyone? It's chicks in the office with Ria and Fran giving you that Friday energy on a Friday. This time joined by our favorite Friday guest, Justin Sylvester. Welcome back.

[Justin Sylvester]

Thank you so much. I just had a polar Seltzer premium. This is real bougie.

[Fran]

Yeah, you came in.

[Ria]

The best we have here.

[Fran]

You know, you sat down, you said, can I get a sparkling water? And we said, anything for you.

[Justin Sylvester]

You know what, I've been with Kyle Richards all week, so I feel Rich today.

[Ria]

Yeah, There you go.

[Justin Sylvester]

You know what I mean?

[Fran]

You're with Kyle Richards. You're with Scarlett Johansson. Had a real quick. You hit us with a hard out. You're having a big week in New York.

[Ria]

It's a Hutu week in New York.

[Justin Sylvester]

It really is fucking Scarlett Johansson, man.

[Fran]

How was that?

[Justin Sylvester]

I've never met a woman more confident in my life. Never in my life. I also love that, like, she's out there living her dream. Like, she is. Like, I want to host the Today Show. She's showing up. She's treating everybody like guests. Like she is like a talk show host. Like, she is not Scarlett Johansson on that set.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Justin Sylvester]

She's like Mrs. Jost.

[Ria]

Well, that's what's so amazing is it's when you see all the names of people that come through for with Jenna and like, there's these big stars and you're like, oh, you must really want to do, like, hosting. If this is because she's done. She's doing it a few times now, like, often.

[Justin Sylvester]

By the way. I love it as a viewer, but personally, it's fucking at my job.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Justin Sylvester]

Like, if Scarlett Johansson's keep on taking this job, it's never gonna come to me. But this is like a testament to Jenna Bush and that team because they make it so easy for you to just be there and be yourself and do it. These A listers. Leslie Bibb's been there twice. Scarlett Johansson, Brooke Shields is coming up. Like, it's insane. She gets some really, really great people.

[Ria]

And she really does. And like, the athletes, when all. Like when Dwayne Wade does it, like, it's.

[Justin Sylvester]

Everybody loves it and I cry twice.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Justin Sylvester]

You know what I mean? Like, she's really doing it. And by the way, I feel so terrible.

For anybody out there who, like, heard about that position and they thought, like, when they're like. Cause they're a TV host, that they were gonna go in there. No, ma'.

[Fran]

Am.

[Justin Sylvester]

Honey, Hollywood is coming in those seats.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Fran]

Really? Charlotte Johansson.

[Chloe Tucker Cain]

Yes.

[Fran]

Was that your first time meeting her?

[Justin Sylvester]

I was on last time she was on, so I got like a really good intro to her. But this time, I don't know if you guys saw.

[Ria]

I saw some.

[Justin Sylvester]

She called me the king of Hollywood.

[Ria]

Oh, I didn't see that.

[Fran]

I did not see that.

[Justin Sylvester]

She called me the king of fucking Hollywood.

[Fran]

Wow.

[Justin Sylvester]

Yeah. That's my Christmas card.

[Ria]

I was gonna say put that.

[Justin Sylvester]

Oh, yeah. Oh, I'm gonna slap that shit on everything.

[Ria]

That's the new social media box merch. That's all the top of the resume.

[Justin Sylvester]

And it's gonna say, she said it.

[Chloe Tucker Cain]

I didn't. Right.

[Ria]

Oh, no. Oh, you put it exactly.

[Fran]

It's not you calling it Scarlett Johansson.

[Justin Sylvester]

Scarlett King of Hollywood.

[Fran]

Yes.

[Justin Sylvester]

Okay, I'm gonna remix it where she says it, like seven times in a row. Like, King of Hollywood. King of Hollywood.

[Fran]

Hollywood.

[Justin Sylvester]

Hollywood.

[Fran]

We'll have Noah work on something like that. He's good at mixing that together. Yeah, he's done it for us. You know, when. When one celebrity says one nice thing, we use it for years.

[Justin Sylvester]

Oh, everywhere.

[Fran]

We're still using Nick Jonas. Yeah. It's been years.

[Justin Sylvester]

I'm calling John Summit. I'd be like, can you put this before the drop with your hot ass for a walkout?

[Fran]

So your walkout.

[Justin Sylvester]

Oh.

[Fran]

When you walk into this room, he.

[Justin Sylvester]

Goes to my gym, John Summit. And honestly, he's probably been there for the three years that I've been there, but he has not caught my eye because he's like, well.

[Ria]

And, yeah.

[Justin Sylvester]

A normal vanilla white man. Then he took his shirt off, and I was like, wait, hold a minute. Of course I saw him, like, the next day. Like, I saw the video of him with a shirt off. And then I walk in the gym, I go to yoga, and I'm like, oh, that's the white man with the shirt off. Yeah, that's John Summit.

[Fran]

Oh, my gosh.

[Ria]

We know who he is now.

[Fran]

Yes.

[Justin Sylvester]

He's so funny.

[Fran]

Wait, that's so funny. I'm gonna. We're gonna ask Noah, when you leave, to find that clip of Scarlett Johansson, have you walk in here and we're gonna have a whole, you know, promo for you on the episode tomorrow.

[Justin Sylvester]

Oh, done.

[Fran]

The king of Hollywood.

[Justin Sylvester]

The king of Hollywood.

[Fran]

On today's episode, I wanna ask why you said she is the most confident person you. I wanna carry some of that into myself. From Scarlett Johansson through you.

[Justin Sylvester]

There's something about a woman who just knows who she is. I've met a few of them in my life. They're very rare. Very rare. But I think there's a type of woman who figured out herself at 13 and just kept going through life. You know what I mean? For myself. I've been trying to figure myself out, I think every decade. I think I figured out in my late 20s who I really was. But she just seems like that girl who just at 13 was like, this is who I am, and take it or leave it. She's also very rich.

[Fran]

That helps.

[Justin Sylvester]

That really helps.

[Fran]

You can really be who you are and want to be when you're there for sure.

[Justin Sylvester]

Have you met Oprah?

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Ria]

No. Yeah, but I can only imagine.

[Justin Sylvester]

Have you ever motherfucking met Oprah? Okay, like, if. Keep in mind, Gayle got money too. But if you watch the video of like, Gail walking onto that spaceship and she rings that bell, have you ever seen it? And she's like, oh, fuck. Like, as if she was clocking in for like a 9 to 9, like a 12 hour shift at the factory. Like, she looked like she was going through it. Oprah just walks in a room and she's like, what are we talking about today? World War II? Yeah, let's go. Like, that's Oprah. It's cash.

[Ria]

Yeah, okay.

[Fran]

That's ScarJo.

[Justin Sylvester]

That's ScarJo. Cash.

[Ria]

Because then she also does all that. And then she was like, let me drop a. A skincare line that people actually really love and use and use. Nice. Yeah.

[Justin Sylvester]

And she believes in it.

[Fran]

She marks well. Markets it well.

[Chloe Tucker Cain]

She does.

[Justin Sylvester]

You know, she's also not the girl who's been in, like every advertisement. Like, I feel like she comes out with one bougie bag, you know, campaign for sure, once every three years. And then goes back in the closet and then comes back out with like.

[Ria]

A Louis Vuitton, really nice perfume ad.

[Justin Sylvester]

Yeah. And then goes back in the closet. And then for her, what she did, which was really smart, was she found something that she was really passionate about, held until it was time, and then put it out there. Yeah, yeah, that's. But she has a very great team behind her. She has the team behind her.

[Ria]

I'm sure she does. I'm sure she's got it all.

[Fran]

You know, when you love somebody and then you hear great things about them, you're like, that's why I feel like when you come in here, we just hear all the people you've been around.

[Justin Sylvester]

Oh, yeah.

[Fran]

You've never been king of Hollywood. Yeah, well, he is the king of Hollywood.

[Justin Sylvester]

King of Hollywood. And by the way, I don't stop at, like, in person. Like, I'm not stopping my research on camera. Like, I'm in the back talking to, like, the hair and makeup people. I'm like, what was she like? And they're all like, we can't wait for her to come back.

[Ria]

Right. I think, how do you feel when she comes in?

[Justin Sylvester]

And by the way, that's who you.

[Ria]

Want to talk to.

[Justin Sylvester]

That's who you want to talk to.

[Fran]

The hair and makeup artists know everything.

[Justin Sylvester]

Everything. Girl, they knew my Social Security number before I even knew It. Okay.

[Fran]

They know because they also have people sitting in their chairs for long amounts of time. When you're sitting in that chair for a while, you just start talking. You don't even know what's coming out of your mouth.

[Justin Sylvester]

You start talking, you leave, you go.

[Fran]

Did I just tell them that? Did I just say that?

[Justin Sylvester]

And by the way, it used to be. Honestly, hair and makeup used to be like a sanctuary. Like, it was like the Oval Office. Like, whatever I say in this hair and makeup chair stays in this hair and makeup chair. I am very lucky that my whole life.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Justin Sylvester]

There was a really big celebrity back in the day who, when tabloids would buy stories, she used to have a lot of leaks. And what she did one day was she picked a very big story in her life. She sacrificed the story. She told everybody the same story and changed one aspect of it. So when the story came out, she found out that it was somebody on her hair and makeup team.

[Fran]

O, that is smart.

[Justin Sylvester]

It was very smart.

[Fran]

That is really smart.

[Ria]

That's what they do in, like, the books. Like, when the royal books about the royal family, they're like, the prince told his friends at school all this to see who leaks.

[Fran]

That is so smart. That was like when Khloe Kardashian said that her therapist leaked the. The story about Tristan Thompson.

[Justin Sylvester]

Right. Yeah. It's really wild. It's really.

[Fran]

But I. I really do trust my hair salon. Last night, I was there, gonna blow out. I was talking shit left and right, and I'm like.

I felt like I was holding court. Everyone's gathered around. They're like, oh, tell us more. I'm like. As I'm talking, I'm like, I don't know anymore.

[Justin Sylvester]

You know what I mean?

[Fran]

Now I'm in too deep.

[Justin Sylvester]

You get too comfortable.

[Fran]

I'm like, I actually just heard that. I'm actually not sure how true that is.

[Justin Sylvester]

No, no.

[Fran]

You get really comfortable allegedly in there. Like, I'm on the podcast, you know, just in case. Like, allegedly. Allegedly.

[Justin Sylvester]

Is that why you're on Dumont today?

[Fran]

Yeah. Like, Ray was in a hair salon talking about this situation.

[Justin Sylvester]

You know what it is? It's something about a person that could tell you, you look like shit, like, every day of your life. Like, if you get a hair, makeup person, like, especially a makeup person, it's the only person in your life other than your husband that can be like, damn, you look like shit today. You know what I mean? Like, and you're like, yeah, I know.

[Ria]

Like, fix me up.

[Justin Sylvester]

So you automatically trust that person because they tell you the truth. It's crazy.

[Ria]

That is so true.

[Justin Sylvester]

Yeah.

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[Ria]

While you're gearing up for a little Sunday night Football action.

[Justin Sylvester]

Was not on my bingo card.

[Fran]

Yes.

[Ria]

Was not on the. On. Not on the mood board for 25.

[Justin Sylvester]

Was not anywhere on the mood board for 2025. And honestly, when I got there, you know, we do chemistry tests.

[Ria]

Yep.

[Justin Sylvester]

I think I was maybe one of the last chemistry tests. There was a straight guy in my chemistry test with me, and a football question would come up, and I'm waiting for this motherfucker to jump in, and he was just like, do, do, do. And meanwhile, I'm like, well, the first round is when. And like, everyone was like, oh, my God. How do you know about football? And I'm like, how the hell did I become the resident NFL guy here? Okay. But I learned it for trade.

[Ria]

So there you go. And now we're watching. We got Sunday Night Football reality hot seat, which you are going to be on this weekend for Sunday Night Football.

[Justin Sylvester]

And let me tell you something.

[Ria]

What a collection of people.

[Justin Sylvester]

Collection of people. Kate Chastain. Can't wait.

[Chloe Tucker Cain]

Yeah.

[Justin Sylvester]

Boston Rob. Can't wait. But Heather Gay is going to be fresh off a reunion.

[Noah]

I know.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Justin Sylvester]

Because they're filming it tonight.

[Fran]

Yes.

[Justin Sylvester]

And you know what? Those ladies are loose lips.

[Ria]

They bet. We're getting. We're getting. Lisa Barlow is. Is our guest for show next week in Philadelphia. And we're like. When I saw. When I saw Andy post that picture this morning that they were. I was like, oh, yeah, it's reunion day.

[Justin Sylvester]

By the way, Angie K Middle Snowflake again.

[Fran]

Really?

[Justin Sylvester]

Angie K's Middle Snowflake, the second year in a row.

[Ria]

Oh, you're right. By herself thinking about it.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Justin Sylvester]

Yeah, like, literally, like, I'm like, whoa. I'm pretty impressed with you. Like. Cause she wasn't an original cast member.

[Fran]

Nope.

[Ria]

Nope. Build your way up. From a friend of.

[Fran]

I just caught up on everything of this season because I felt like I was really missing out every week. I was like, every week.

[Ria]

These episodes are so good.

[Fran]

And I was like, I'm really missing out. So I watched all 11 episodes in one day last week.

[Justin Sylvester]

By the way, congratulations to you. And I feel bad for your brain cells.

[Chloe Tucker Cain]

Yeah.

[Justin Sylvester]

The one thing that I know we will never get is the audio or the video from that. But there was a straight man who was on the plane who I think has it. I saw on TikTok.

[Fran]

Really?

[Justin Sylvester]

He posted a photo of everybody in first class.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Justin Sylvester]

I need Bravo, Andy Cohen. If you are listening to this, you need to find that straight man.

[Fran]

Pay that man.

[Justin Sylvester]

Okay? And you know what else? You need to find those two gay flight attendants. Because if those queens did not call the cops, it was because they were gay and they were messy. Get them and watch what happens live. I bet you I can track those people down.

[Fran]

Yeah. The fact that nobody's speaking publicly, like, this is what was said. Interesting.

[Justin Sylvester]

I'm telling you, somebody's going to end up somewhere.

[Fran]

Maybe at the reunion.

[Chloe Tucker Cain]

Maybe they'll.

[Fran]

Maybe they'll bring them out.

[Ria]

We're finally resolving it at the reunion. We have the audio.

[Justin Sylvester]

Because people.

[Fran]

Somebody's gotta have.

[Ria]

We went straight to the airline.

[Fran]

You're gonna tell me nobody was like this on their phone? Clicking record. And it's just like, well, I can't.

[Ria]

Believe it wasn't Whitney Rose.

[Justin Sylvester]

Right.

[Ria]

Like, what were they doing?

[Justin Sylvester]

Well, it wasn't Brittany. You know, Brittany Scarf the last time she recorded something.

[Fran]

Exactly.

[Justin Sylvester]

I mean, it was pretty wild. Kudos to Meredith. I love a white woman who takes zero accountability. Like, that is my favorite type of white woman who's like, well, you know what? I was really upset, too. She hurt my feelings. And I'm like, yes, bitch. Triple down. Like, if seven people told you you stabbed someone, just keep saying no.

[Ria]

And it's like, not even triple. It's like the millionth time, too. And I'm seeing her do press right now, and she's doing interviews, and she's just like, yeah, I was angry. I was talking about Britney. I was also talking about a lot of other things.

[Fran]

It's very impressive.

[Ria]

And that's all she says.

[Fran]

You know, you're like, in. I'm just enamored with people who just can double, triple, quadruple. Down. Because for me, I feel guilty about. I'm overthinking everything I say ever. And I'm almost like, oh, my God, Did I say something? Da, da, da, da. These people are like, no, I did this. Yeah.

[Justin Sylvester]

When Mary is trying to explain to her what she experienced, and she was like, I have no idea what you're talking about. And by the way, no shame here, bitch. Cause I blacked out on an Ambien myself. Okay? I have done some wild shit on an Ambien. Please do not let anyone try to have sex with you while you have taken an Ambien, okay? I dated this guy one time, woke up the next morning, and he was like, you were on fire last night.

[Hunter or Holland]

Oh, my God.

[Justin Sylvester]

I was like, wait, what do you mean? He was like, wow, that was impressive. I literally ran to the bathroom like I was on Law and Order svu. I was like, wait, what? What has happened tonight? Like, what happened?

[Fran]

Do I have to do this every time now?

[Ria]

I thought I was asleep.

[Justin Sylvester]

I had no idea.

[Fran]

How am I supposed to live up to these expectations, right?

[Justin Sylvester]

I don't know where they are. You know what I mean? Next time. He was like, can you do that thing you did? I'm like, yeah, what was it again?

[Fran]

You're like, oh, tell me what you want.

[Justin Sylvester]

Right, right.

[Ria]

So in the moment, I forgot.

[Justin Sylvester]

Yeah, so I get it. I'm down.

[Ria]

Well.

You never know where the broadcast is gonna take you. And let me tell you, if you're, like, halfway through the game and all of a sudden you're like, let's talk.

[Justin Sylvester]

About the reunion all day. And by the way, that's what it is, too. That's what I love about it. It's honestly, when I go and watch a football game, I'm honestly talking about everything else that's going on in life. We're talking about pop culture. We're talking about the news. We're talking about everything that's been on Page Six and on e. Online. That's what we're basically doing at football games.

[Fran]

And then you're like, oh, oh.

[Ria]

Or you're like, who's that guy? Who's that guy dating?

[Justin Sylvester]

Exactly.

[Ria]

Who's. Yes. The whole thing. The game. The game this week is Texans versus Chiefs. Okay, great.

[Justin Sylvester]

And it's a home game.

[Ria]

Okay? So obviously, you have all the. You got Taylor of it all. Takes up plenty.

[Justin Sylvester]

Taylor's coming, by the way, if Taylor shows up with Blake Lively. Oh, wouldn't that be crazy?

[Fran]

You think Blake Live would be there?

[Justin Sylvester]

No, but that would be Crazy.

[Ria]

No.

[Justin Sylvester]

Yeah. That would give me three hours of content.

[Ria]

100, actually.

[Fran]

That takes up the entire gig.

[Justin Sylvester]

Oh, 1,000%.

[Ria]

She wants to bring anybody into that box. Well, you know, they really don't show her that much these days.

[Fran]

That was a thing, though, right?

[Ria]

It's, like, on purpose. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It seems to be on purpose that they, like, don't want to show her on the jumbotron in the stadium anymore. And, like, she's very secretive coming in and out. She doesn't do her whole. Her whole catwalk into the box like she was doing last season.

[Justin Sylvester]

Well, also, like, her man's having, like, a rough go right now.

[Ria]

Yeah, yeah. Right. You know what I mean? They could not make the playoffs, so that's a problem.

[Justin Sylvester]

His check engine light's on.

[Fran]

Right, Right.

[Justin Sylvester]

So. And by the him, I mean the whole team.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Justin Sylvester]

So she's like, you know what?

[Ria]

Let me lay low.

[Justin Sylvester]

Let me let y' all get this tune up, get this shit together. Because you know what we saw with Jessica Simpson when Tony Romo was down and out? They blamed her.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Justin Sylvester]

You know what I mean? She ain't got time for that. She only gets good pr, Right? So.

[Fran]

So you're not even going to see me at the game. You won't know if I'm there one time.

[Justin Sylvester]

You see these bangs and this ponytail?

[Fran]

Yeah. And that ring?

[Justin Sylvester]

That's it. And that ring. And that's it. I'm going give it to you once.

[Fran]

Are you still following along with the whole Blake Lively, Justin Baldoni, everything that's going on? Because it's still in the news every single day. But it's hard to keep up with.

[Justin Sylvester]

By the way, I took a break because I know that in May, it's about to ramp up.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Justin Sylvester]

And May's gonna be here in zero time.

[Ria]

It's like when they actually are in court.

[Fran]

Right. When we.

[Chloe Tucker Cain]

When we.

[Ria]

This. All this in between time. It's all.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Ria]

Chat.

[Justin Sylvester]

It's like little, like, you know, this movement, this motion, this thing. I'm like, no, no, I'm gonna wait till May.

[Chloe Tucker Cain]

It's crazy.

[Fran]

It's gonna be around the corner because when we heard the court date, initially, I remember us thinking, oh, we're never gonna get there. It's gonna take forever. Now we're a full year. We're almost there.

[Justin Sylvester]

Are you 30 yet?

[Fran]

Yes.

[Justin Sylvester]

By the way, when you're in your 30s, summer is like, just me, not her.

[Ria]

Just to clarify.

[Justin Sylvester]

No, no, no. When you get to 30, summer feels like a blip.

[Ria]

Yes. That it does.

[Justin Sylvester]

When you were 10, three months was like a long time.

[Fran]

Oh, my God.

[Justin Sylvester]

In your teens you were like, yeah, get a break. Now that you're in your 30s, Summer's like, oh, my God, you blanked.

[Ria]

Summer's like, oh, my God. I have 12 weekends and that's it. And every single weekend is booked. So when is summer?

[Fran]

You have a wedding every weekend, right?

[Ria]

When is summer?

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Justin Sylvester]

So when you guys were like, oh, no, May. I was like, oh, yeah, that'd be.

I still feel bad for them because again, no one wins at this point. Like, the movie lost. Because the movie would have been the biggest movie of the year.

[Ria]

Yeah. And everyone still want, you know.

[Justin Sylvester]

No, people still went, but it still would have been the biggest movie. People were obsessed with that book. People were obsessed with that author. And it kind of took away from the whole film. She loses. He loses in this thing. Ryan Reynolds, he loses big time too. Loses in this thing. Everyone loses. Sony loses. Wme, the guy from WME got fired. He loses. Too many people have already lost and we haven't even gotten to the courtroom.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Hunter or Holland]

Yep.

[Ria]

That is.

[Fran]

I just say that every day. They just must be regretting that they ever did this. And then Colleen Hoover, the author, she said that she's now embarrassed to tell people that she wrote the book.

[Justin Sylvester]

Cause of everything that went on.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Justin Sylvester]

By the way, she was doing some weird shit with Diet Coke for a minute too. So, like, you remember that was like some weird, like. No, remember she was like doing some weird TikToks and shit. Like she had some, like some weird shit. I mean, it's still a great book and she still has four more under her belt. But there's gonna be now a fight for that second book because he has the rights to all of them.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Justin Sylvester]

Cause this has a sequel.

[Fran]

Yeah, it does. Just put it to bed though, you know, don't even try to resurrect.

[Ria]

Zero reason to make the second one.

[Justin Sylvester]

But by the way, that's a very bad thing for her. You know what I mean? Like, that's the shitty part.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Justin Sylvester]

Is because you were banking on that two book deal for sure. And now you probably bought this five million dollar house. That's what I would have done.

[Fran]

We gotta hope Verity does well with Anne Hathaway.

[Justin Sylvester]

Yeah, it will.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Justin Sylvester]

It's Anna.

[Ria]

Yeah, That'll be fantastic. She's got. She is booked for like. Did you see her schedule for the movies that she's got coming out, like in the next year? It's like four months and it Goes Mother Mary. Devil Wears Prada, two, The Odyssey and Verity are all coming out within, like, four or five months of each other, by the way.

[Justin Sylvester]

She knows the jam. She's like, I'm gonna give you. I like Anne Hathaway because Anne Hathaway is one of those celebrities. Like, Jennifer Lopez is a 24 7, 365 girl. Like, she got shit coming out every day. Okay. Anne Hathaway's like, I know people get tired of me, so what I'm gonna do is I'm gonna put my shit out for a year, and then I'm hide for a year, and then I'll put my shit out for a year, and then I'm gonna hide for a year. She's figured it out. Because when you're in the limelight too long, people automatically turn on you, even though you're Jennifer Lopez and you're putting out great shit. You know what I mean?

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Justin Sylvester]

They just find reasons to come after you.

[Fran]

Yeah. They want to miss you a little bit.

[Ria]

I was like a. I was a pretty early on Anne Hathaway hater, and I have come around big time. I think I've done a full 180.

[Justin Sylvester]

Well, the Oscar curse is real. You know what I mean? Like, I feel like when you win that Oscar, if you don't act a certain way, and even if you try to act, you know, the way they want you to, it still fucks with you.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Justin Sylvester]

Like, Mikey Madison won that Oscar and disappeared.

[Ria]

I was gonna. I was thinking about that the other night.

[Fran]

I was like, what movie? Oh, and Nora. Wait, what happened there?

[Justin Sylvester]

She was smart. She was smart. She saw what happened to Gwyneth Paltrow. She saw what happened to Anne Hathaway. Look at Jennifer Lawrence. Same thing happened to her. Also, when women win Oscars, there's this weird thing that happens to you where the world. And you only think that you can do Oscar movies. Like, if you win an Oscar, all you think about is how you're gonna get that next Oscar.

[Fran]

Right, right, right.

[Justin Sylvester]

And it gets in your way.

[Fran]

Right.

[Justin Sylvester]

You know, I feel like, unfortunately, Sydney Sweeney did the same thing. She went for Oscar movies. And I'm like, but why'd you do that?

[Chloe Tucker Cain]

Right?

[Justin Sylvester]

Like, you just unlocked the Cameron Diaz shortcut to life. Like, you could have been the funniest, cutest anyone, but you. Like, you should have stayed on that thing. But all these actresses want to win Oscars. They want to be seen as. And by the way, I get it. Like, you want to be seen as something else. You want to be taken seriously. But damn, she could have just had the biggest run. Yeah, being Cameron Diaz.

[Fran]

And now Euphoria. Season three was announced and that'll be coming out in April. The creator said that this is the best season yet. Now that is a bold claim.

[Ria]

Well, there's only two seasons.

[Fran]

There is a bold first of all. Two seasons.

[Ria]

But he said best season yet. There's only been two other ones.

[Fran]

Right, but still, it's a bold claim to make. When people loved the first one so much, didn't love the second one, and now they are all already tearing apart the third one. First of all, it didn't even come out.

[Justin Sylvester]

That Oklahoma scene, that OK, season two, that play, that whole scene, the best TV I've seen.

[Fran]

I like season two a lot.

[Justin Sylvester]

I love season two was bumping. Season three better be better. You had six years to think about it. All these motherfuckers are 30. You better be the best. Goddamn.

[Fran]

And there's a major time jump in this season, too.

[Ria]

The creator also said 100% that Cassie and Nate, Sydney Sweeney and Jacob Elardi's charact manager will be getting married on this season.

[Justin Sylvester]

Damn. Did he say that?

[Ria]

He said the marriage is happening. Okay. There's a couple other topics we want to talk to you about as well, but I do want to circle back to football quickly and because I realized we're talking about it because we all know what it is, but everyone else listening might not know. Even, like Sunday Night Football. You guys are doing a reality hot seat broadcast on Peacock.

[Justin Sylvester]

Yes, we are watching the game and you are going to watch us talk about the game and also talk about your favorite pop culture and reality moments. I always say, like, it's for the guy who loves football and for the girl who pretends like she does.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Justin Sylvester]

You know what I mean? Like, bring your man. The game's gonna be on, but we gonna be gabbing about it.

[Ria]

So this is my actual dream broadcast because as someone who loves football and pop culture, this is the mix of everything. So I love. I think this is great. I think it's a super fun idea and it'll be fun to watch. And I think a lot of Taylor fans who are now into the Chiefs.

[Justin Sylvester]

Yeah.

[Ria]

Are going to like this.

[Justin Sylvester]

Oh, no. For sure. And also, like, come on, you guys. Like, we could be looking at some hot men for like three hours. And by the way, the men in the NFL have been stepping their game up.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Justin Sylvester]

Like, the shorts are getting shorter. People wearing crop tops now.

[Ria]

Well, I do think that they're I mean, they've certainly stepped up their pregame outfits.

[Justin Sylvester]

Oh, yeah.

[Ria]

Stepping off the bus and walking into the tunnel.

[Justin Sylvester]

Babe, they got Birkins. Yeah, yeah, some of them have fake ones.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Justin Sylvester]

By the way, just so you know, if you're walking out of your car into a locker room and you're carrying a Birkin that looks a little stiff and a little fake, I'm a call your ass out.

[Fran]

See, this is way more entertaining than listening to Tom Brady call the game.

[Justin Sylvester]

Yeah. In my opinion, nothing's worse than a fake Birkin. Nothing is worse.

[Fran]

How can you tell?

[Justin Sylvester]

Oh, first of all, I can smell it.

[Fran]

I don't think I've actually even seen. Seen a Birkin in real life. No, I don't.

[Justin Sylvester]

I'll bring one next time.

[Fran]

Yeah, please do.

[Justin Sylvester]

I have one?

[Fran]

I don't think you do have a.45.

[Ria]

I mean, bring. Bring her in, because I don't think I've seen one here.

[Fran]

What was your introduction to a Birkin the first time?

[Ria]

Morgan Stewart.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Justin Sylvester]

Kyle Richards.

[Fran]

Yeah, that makes more sense.

[Ria]

Well, Morgan's I also think is unbelievable.

[Justin Sylvester]

Morgan? Yeah, Morgan collect collection.

[Ria]

When she makes, like, a tik tok about something silly and her wall of Birkins are behind her, like, I mean, that was hilarious.

[Fran]

She made a tik tok about someone serious, and it was just all Birkin through the background. People were commenting. They were like, you know what? This is why we love Morgan Stewart. We're actually not even mad at her. This is Morgan Stewart.

[Justin Sylvester]

It was the wildfires.

[Fran]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Justin Sylvester]

I also felt bad for her on that because she is from California. She loves California. She's like a California girl. But one of my clients had an insane Birkin collection.

And she had two closets for her purses, and she collected two different types of Birkins and Kelly's. The leathers are different, okay. They're called two different things, and she kept them separate because they smell differently. So when you would walk into one closet, you would get a whiff of this leather, and it smelled very distinctively from this closet.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Justin Sylvester]

So that was my introduction into the Burke and Kelly smell.

[Hunter or Holland]

Okay.

[Justin Sylvester]

And then E.J. johnson, okay. Because he has a few Birkins. I'm sure when we were going out and we were a hot mess, and we were in our 20s, and girls would walk into the clubs with their Birkins, he would take his nail. I'm not joking you. This is a real story. He would take his nail and he would tap on the hardware, and if it didn't jingle the right way. He knew it was fake, and he taught me if it did, it was fake, and if it did, it was real.

[Ria]

You're right. You're like a certain. It has a certain note.

[Justin Sylvester]

He. Lil John would be playing in the club. It would be loud as I could just see him, like, and he was drunk. He was drunk as fuck. And he would be like, fake.

[Ria]

This bitch is burking his fake.

[Justin Sylvester]

You're burking his fake. Like, he would literally.

[Fran]

I'm telling you, Instagram's a liar.

[Justin Sylvester]

Oh, my God. Like, a girl would, like, sit down at the table for dinner, and I could, like, see him. Like, he would, like, wait for her to turn. He'd be like, oh, my God, can I see your bag? And he'd be like. She'd be like, oh, it's so nice.

[Fran]

Ding, ding, ding, ding, ding.

[Justin Sylvester]

And, like, literally put it back down.

[Fran]

I love it. Oh, my God. That's amazing.

[Justin Sylvester]

He is. He taught me, like, that's who taught me about that.

[Fran]

Yeah. So when did you get your first one?

[Justin Sylvester]

I got mine as a Christmas gift one time from a guy.

[Fran]

Okay. Gifted.

[Justin Sylvester]

But I never. Have never worn it because, honestly, like, my car's nice, but it's not really nice if I pop out a car, but my bag costs just as much as my car. It doesn't match.

[Fran]

Fair.

[Ria]

Has to match the whole thing.

[Fran]

I feel you on that. It does.

[Ria]

Because you're like.

[Fran]

I don't want to go down this path. I don't want to go down this path.

[Ria]

What color is this?

[Justin Sylvester]

It's gray. It's gorgeous.

[Fran]

When you see people wearing, like, a logo here, a logo here, a logo here, a logo here. Right. None of the logos match, and then they're popping out of, you know, a Honda Accord. Maybe you're like, you know, but what's going on here?

[Justin Sylvester]

Your priorities are not right.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Justin Sylvester]

Let me tell you something.

[Ria]

That means you're bad with your money.

[Justin Sylvester]

Yeah. That means you're bad with your money.

[Chloe Tucker Cain]

Right.

[Fran]

Right. That's what it is. I'm like, where are the priorities?

[Justin Sylvester]

Where are the priorities? I dated a man when I was in my 20s. I went on a few dates with this guy. He was, like, 40. He had a Range Rover Sport. It was beautiful. And I remember thinking, oh, my God, he has a Range Rover Sport. Like, I don't question anything at this point.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Justin Sylvester]

And night, like, date three, he's like, oh, come to my house. And I'm like, yeah. And I walk in to his house, and I'm like, Damn, you have a lot of shoes at the door. He's like, yeah, I got two roommates. And I'm like, oh, so like you own the house and like you rent two rooms out? He's like, no, no, we just rent this place. And I'm like, hold a minute, let me back up for a fucking second. You're driving a $2,500 car a month that you put 10k down on. You said that this was your second one. So you have spent $20,000 and over $4,000 in the last, like two years. Four years. On this car, on this Range Rover, yet you live in a three bedroom, walk up with two other people and you're 40. Yeah, we have our priorities.

[Fran]

The priorities aren't straight. They're not. By the way, no diss on a Honda Accord.

[Justin Sylvester]

Grew up. And no diss on a roommate.

[Chloe Tucker Cain]

Grew up.

[Fran]

My brother had a hond.

[Justin Sylvester]

You know, first car, two door, Honda Accord.

[Fran]

Yeah, exactly. I am not shitting on a Honda Accord. I used to borrow his car all the time. I'm just saying, when it doesn't match up, you're like, what's going on here?

[Ria]

No, that's why they say the, you know, the, the, the rich of the rich. You, you, you wouldn't know because they're not loud. It's quiet luxury.

[Fran]

Yeah, that's why they call it quiet luxury.

[Justin Sylvester]

You know what I do like, I do know, though, and this is why God didn't make me a girl. Cause my priorities would be fucked up. Okay. My shoe game and my hair game would be so locked. Like, I think as a woman, that's what makes it hard.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Justin Sylvester]

Cause if I was a woman, 100.

[Ria]

I make these mistakes, man. I got a couple coats in my closet that could have gone to some other really important things.

[Justin Sylvester]

And by the way, no one gives a shit about the coats. Everyone cares about the shoes and your hair. Cause it's the first thing I look at when I look at a woman. Shoes and hair.

[Chloe Tucker Cain]

Yep.

[Justin Sylvester]

Men always compliment the hair and the shoes.

[Ria]

That's true.

[Justin Sylvester]

By the way. A spandex dress is a spandex dress.

[Fran]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Justin Sylvester]

Like, it doesn't matter if it's loewe or, you know, sheen. It's a spandex dress.

[Fran]

Yeah. I'm not, I'm not so big on like designer clothes. Like, you know, like you said, like, it's, it's the shoes, it's the bags.

[Justin Sylvester]

Yes.

[Fran]

The clothing Items.

[Justin Sylvester]

You know, 1000% like this.

[Fran]

Both from Zara. You know what I Mean.

[Justin Sylvester]

And that's what it's supposed to be.

[Chloe Tucker Cain]

And that's.

[Fran]

It's. It's, you know, 50. $50 each. I'm like, that's great.

[Justin Sylvester]

I've seen the subways y' all are sitting on in New York. If you put your ass wearing some Louis Vuitton on that subway. Get the fuck out of here. Yeah, like, get out of here. But that's where I. Like where this generation is going. Like, the bags are classic. You start to see designers making more classic bags, more staple pieces that people can keep in their, you know, their. Their wardrobes for a very long time. Always go for those bags where they could have been made in 2010 or 2010. You know what I mean? Like, or 2020. You know what I mean?

[Fran]

See, accessories. It's bag, shoes, jewelry. I'm big on jewelry, too.

[Justin Sylvester]

And don't come here with no chip motherfucking nails. If you have more than 2 millimeters of space between your cuticles and where your last manicure started, bitch, we're fighting.

[Fran]

I'm going to.

[Ria]

That. I'm going to put too much money.

[Fran]

I'm like, it's okay.

[Ria]

And guess what? We both have appointments after appointments today.

[Fran]

But let me tell you, it took me a while to learn that, because my best friend used to come in with nails. The worst. No. But even before that, that was a step up from what I used to do. My best friend growing up and in high school, she always got her nails done every two weeks. Okay? Always. And I would never have my nails done. And she would just rag on me for it all the time. And then I just started purposely not getting. Cause I was like, well, now I'm just. Do you want to piss you off? I'm not going to have them. I would say about. I want to say, like, five years ago, I started getting them done religiously. Like, I have had nails for five years. And you love it, and I love them. But every time I see her, she. She's always like, she. It's like she looks down at me proud with a little smile. But the last time she looked at my nails, oh, she was unhappy that I wasn't getting Russian manicures. I said, jesse, I. You already got me doing my nails every, you know, three weeks now. Whatever it is, sometimes I push it to a full month. Now you want me to start getting Russian manicures? And what did I do? I started getting Russia because she would.

[Ria]

She would look down with this little judgment, little look.

[Fran]

And then Fran would step in my other Everyone would step in.

[Ria]

I started to judge her because she told me that when she would go to get a manicure, she would tell her nail tech to skip the cuticles.

[Fran]

Because they would get all fucked up when she did it. Which was a sign of. I was going to the wrong place.

[Justin Sylvester]

You're going to the wrong person.

[Ria]

Like, so you've gone years of manicures. They haven't touched your cuticles once.

[Fran]

Yes.

[Justin Sylvester]

By the way. They probably thought you were crazy. They probably were like, wait, what? That's a manicure touch.

[Ria]

So she went to go get this Russian manicure. Took four hours.

[Fran]

No. She was like, I'm doing surgery on your nails. And I was like, surgery? They're that bad? And she was like. She was like, this is even the worst surgery I've done. I was like, why do you keep calling it surgery?

Exactly. But now I'm on the Russian manicure wave, and it's a whole thing. I'm going, going today. And I gotta make all my friends happy, including my. It does make me happy too. Like, you know, but I got bullied into it, basically. That's fine.

[Justin Sylvester]

By the way, keep. Keep your. Your. Your foot on her neck.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Justin Sylvester]

Keep your.

[Ria]

That's the whole. He said you're not taking care of your cuticles.

[Fran]

That's the point. The best is my friend Jesse, who, you know, she has a, you know, very serious job. Not very serious job, but more serious than, you know, talking on a podcast. And she's like. Like, you're on camera every day. Your nails have to look good. I'm like, this. This is so. She's right.

[Justin Sylvester]

You know, you're gonna go a month. Don't pick red. Don't pick black. Get that ballet flat.

[Chloe Tucker Cain]

Yeah, right?

[Justin Sylvester]

Like, let it blend in. You know what I mean? Just let it blend in. Don't get up.

[Ria]

Ria's like, they're getting stuck in my hair right now. Rhea with her red nails. They are.

[Fran]

They're bright red.

[Ria]

Mine are dark brown.

[Fran]

Almost had an inch of growth.

[Hunter or Holland]

Almost.

[Fran]

Whatever. Yeah.

[Ria]

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We gotta do some topics because. Yes, because let me tell you, we could sit here for three hours.

And he's got a lunch, but we got some things we want to talk about.

[Fran]

Spotify wrapped. How do you. First of all, I want to know, how do you feel about people posting their Spotify wrapped? We both like it, but we want to know your.

[Justin Sylvester]

That's a basic white girl and gay thing. Like the basic white gays do it. The basic white girls do it. However, I have a new podcast and some people have been posting my podcast as their most like, listen to podcast of the year. So this is amazing for me now.

[Ria]

And you know what? I like it and I said it multiple times on, on Wednesday, just on social that like, I love seeing what other people listen to, but I like posting it myself because I feel it is. And maybe it's because I speak so much about the people I like and the artists I like that I'm like, this validates everything I talked about this year. I am the person I say I am. Yeah. Well, it goes. And here's the proof. Spotify told me my listening age is 17 years old.

[Justin Sylvester]

By the way, they just added that in.

[Ria]

That's a new one.

[Justin Sylvester]

And that's crazy.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Justin Sylvester]

It also tells me a lot about. It tells me a lot about you and what you've been through for the last year.

[Ria]

17 in my number one genre is bubblegum pop, so that's. That's cute.

[Chloe Tucker Cain]

Yep.

[Ria]

Bubblegum pop. 17 year old.

[Justin Sylvester]

Mine would probably like secretly be Morgan Wallen, like, and it's problematic.

[Ria]

Well, guess what? His album was the number one most listened to album on Spotify. So you wouldn't.

[Fran]

You're a Morgan Wallen fan.

[Justin Sylvester]

No, I go to gym with a bunch of straight bros. Like a bunch of Latin straight bros. And by the way, I know Morgan Wallen is, you know, a hot take, but I got caught up in it. I got caught up in the Morgan Wallen of it all.

[Fran]

People do fucking love his music.

[Justin Sylvester]

Right?

[Ria]

I won't expose them. My friends who have, have, have him as their top artist and I I always say, we're Morgan Wall and Hay.

[Chloe Tucker Cain]

I go.

[Justin Sylvester]

I know. And Tate McCrae.

[Fran]

Oh, I like Tate McCray. No, I like Tate McCray. But she did do that.

When he's like the number one artist and he comes knocking at your door, by the way, Tamara Cray's like, I guess I'll answer.

[Justin Sylvester]

I grew up listening to R. Kelly. We all knew what R. Kelly was doing, okay. When he wrote AJ number to number, like, we all knew what the fuck he was doing. You know what I mean? Like, it just is so hard. Like, I got into the Marvel.

[Fran]

It's the classic debate of separating the art and the artists.

[Ria]

Rhea, you never post yours.

[Fran]

No, because I gotta say, mine was not. There's something not right with mine this year. And I know it for a fact, because that happened.

[Ria]

Remember that happened to Gia last year?

[Fran]

My number one song was a song that I have never listened to. No, no. It's Squabble up by Kendrick Lamar.

[Justin Sylvester]

Oh.

[Fran]

But I have never gone out of my way to listen to that song. Maybe once or twice I have, because when it first came out, I liked it. Yeah. But it's always a song that when it comes on, I skip it.

[Justin Sylvester]

You got caught in the algorithm.

[Fran]

Something I think must have happened because that I.

[Ria]

You, like, played enough.

[Fran]

We could have sat here.

[Ria]

Five seconds counts as a play.

[Fran]

No, but we could have sat here and you could have said a hundred. Name 100 songs that you think might be your number one song. I would have never had that as my number one song. So I didn't. That's why I didn't post something that seemed right to me. My listening age was 30, which.

[Ria]

Wow. Actually you're the only person that I have seen that got an age. I was actually near their age. Cause I felt like I was like, okay. In my mind, I thought, is Spotify being the drama? Like, is Spotify either giving you 16, 17, 18, or 70? Yeah, like. And I was like, I don't see anybody getting any in between ages. No one's getting 30. No one's getting 40.

[Fran]

Yeah, baby, I got 30. You got 30.

[Justin Sylvester]

And I'm still being. My listening age would be like a 26 year old girl with an IUD. Because Megan Thee stallion. That nasty, dirty Megan thee stallion. I was listening to her all year long.

[Fran]

But I also was listening to Mayhem so much. Lady Gaga's album and Miley's album. Neither of those two albums were in my top five albums. But the life of a showgirl was. And I have to say I did Listen to Life of Showgirl a lot. When to comes it. It first came out.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Fran]

I have listened to mayhem and something beautiful.

[Justin Sylvester]

Way more.

[Fran]

Way more than that. So I was like, something's not right here. Because my number one sign of something not being right was Squabble up by Country. I have never gone out of my way to, like, listen to that. Like I said, maybe once or twice. Like, maybe the first week it came out, something happened and I was unhappy. When I opened, I was like, this isn't real what's going on here.

[Ria]

My music tastes.

[Chloe Tucker Cain]

You could go back.

[Ria]

Like, you could say, what was Fran listening to in 2008? It'd be the exact same thing. It's the same thing. The exact same thing. It's Jonas Brothers, Taylor Swift, Miley Cyrus, Justin Bieber. I threw Olivia and Dean entered the mix because I fucking love her. And she is into it. She's in my list this year. But those four, I'm like, you could have gone back to. I had to. My freshman year of high school would have been exactly the same.

[Fran]

This one made sense to me. I had Drake. Drake. It did make sense to me.

[Justin Sylvester]

I love that you still support Champagne Pop.

[Fran]

I listen to so much Drake. I can't even help it. I do. I love it. He has a song for everything.

[Justin Sylvester]

Because you were the club.

[Fran]

You were a club. And, like, he just has something for everything. He's got slow songs, he's got sexy songs, he's got hyped up songs. He's got hard rap songs, he's got singing songs. He really. He does. He does have a.

[Justin Sylvester]

He's got a range.

[Fran]

He does.

[Justin Sylvester]

And you can't fight that.

[Fran]

But I also had Kendrick in my top five as well. So I was like, okay, I'm on both sides.

[Justin Sylvester]

That a fair weather friend. We call that a fair weather there. I love that man. Okay. And after I saw that, that old naughty picture, I love that man even more.

[Fran]

You gonna pop up in Turks and Caicos. Hope you run into him.

[Justin Sylvester]

I would, I would. Did you see that nasty photo?

[Fran]

Oh, yes, girl. I think we all did, by the way.

[Justin Sylvester]

I think he wanted it to come out well.

[Fran]

Then my favorite was when he.

[Ria]

After you see the picture and it sometimes, like, if, you know, you're like, oh, well, they're proud.

[Fran]

That's one of my favorite lines in the song. One of his diss tracks to Kendrick, he said, there's only. Now I have to find out what a book.

[Justin Sylvester]

Right?

[Fran]

I'll let you guys know.

[Justin Sylvester]

Let me let you guys know. Something. I bought those tickets to the Drake concert after I saw that photo.

[Ria]

There you go. So I got.

[Fran]

I. I gotta.

[Justin Sylvester]

And I bought three of my. I bought three of my single friends. And I said, tonight, one of you. One of us.

[Fran]

Yeah. Doesn't he say there's only. There's only one big D and there's video proof. Right? That's like something. Something like.

[Justin Sylvester]

No, listen, you would know to my single girls out there, if you come with me to a Drake concert, one of us is not coming home to you.

[Fran]

There you go.

[Justin Sylvester]

So get your nails done. Oh, my God, I would die if one of my friends hooked up with Drake.

[Fran]

He gets around.

[Justin Sylvester]

He gets around. But again, if I was champagne Poppy.

[Fran]

Yeah, no, obviously he gets around. But like, I'm saying he gets around with, like, people that. You know. You know what I mean? Like, there are, like, a lot of, like, I think influencers. I think a lot of that is going on.

[Chloe Tucker Cain]

For sure.

[Ria]

He's definitely in people's DMs.

[Fran]

That you'd be like, oh, yeah.

[Justin Sylvester]

Girls are like, I'm waiting for it. You know, there's gonna be a thread at, like, some point in the next, like, 10 years.

[Fran]

I think a lot of rappers are. I think. I think there are a lot for sure.

[Ria]

Okay. The last thing we want to talk about is. Oh, there was two things, but we'll go through. Let's go through them fast. The Variety announced the actors on Actors.

[Justin Sylvester]

Tell me who's going who.

[Ria]

So there's some good ones in. Some that I'm like, oh, I wish that person got something. Someone better. Ariana Grande and Adam Sandler.

[Chloe Tucker Cain]

Love.

[Ria]

I think that's very. That's a very good one. Funny people. But you wouldn't. You would never think of them together.

David Corn Sweat, who? I think I say his name. I hope I'm saying his name right. Who's played Superman? The new Superman and Jonathan Bailey people.

[Fran]

They knew what they were doing.

[Ria]

They said, let's put these two very handsome guys together. Handsome men.

[Justin Sylvester]

But David Corenswet is, like, vanilla.

[Ria]

Yes. And. And like, he's missionary. Like, he is Superman in my eyes. Like, I think everything about him screams very Superman.

[Fran]

Clark Kent. Yes.

[Chloe Tucker Cain]

Yeah.

[Fran]

And he's doing it in the Superman position.

[Ria]

100 and is barely touching Gwyneth Paltrow and Jacob Elordi off, which is so funny. Like, are they just gonna, like, whisper to each other?

[Justin Sylvester]

Probably Right?

[Ria]

Like, so I can't see either of them showing much. I know animation about the other's work.

[Justin Sylvester]

Right.

[Ria]

Like Gwyneth Pals was gonna be like. I love Euphoria.

[Justin Sylvester]

Literally. I have not seen it. Frankenstein. That was deep. Deep.

[Ria]

That was. That was Cindy Sweeney and Ethan Hawke.

Michael B. Jordan and Jesse Plemons.

[Justin Sylvester]

Oh, yeah, that's great.

[Ria]

That's a good one.

[Justin Sylvester]

By the way, low key. Begonia.

[Fran]

I heard it's fantastic.

[Justin Sylvester]

Begonia might be my second favorite movie of the year.

[Fran]

What was your first?

[Justin Sylvester]

The Leo movie.

[Fran]

One battle after another. Just watch it. Fantastic.

[Justin Sylvester]

Was really great.

[Fran]

So good.

[Ria]

Got Oscar Isaac and Teyana Taylor.

[Justin Sylvester]

Yeah.

[Chloe Tucker Cain]

Interesting pairing.

[Justin Sylvester]

I like that.

[Ria]

I like that one. Julia Roberts and Sean Penn.

I would have liked Julia Roberts to be with a different age, like a different generation.

[Justin Sylvester]

I would have put Julia Roberts or Jacob Eloria.

[Fran]

I was gonna say. I wonder if they have stories, though. Julia Roberts.

[Justin Sylvester]

They probably do.

[Ria]

They must. They must. Dwayne Johnson and Brendan Fraser. Oh, I love that.

[Fran]

Sounds like it'll be sweet.

[Ria]

Put Brendan Fraser with the Rock, you know, that's great.

[Justin Sylvester]

What's Brendan Fraser in this year?

[Ria]

What was he. I don't know if what he was in this year because normally they do like.

[Justin Sylvester]

Oh, they're bringing back old mom.

[Ria]

Is. Aren't they bringing the money. The mummy? Or am I making that up?

[Justin Sylvester]

Oh, maybe that's why we were talking.

[Noah]

About that called Rental Family.

[Fran]

Oh, that's.

[Justin Sylvester]

Oh, yeah. You see in that. Yeah, I heard that's supposed to be really good.

[Ria]

Cynthia Rivo and Hugh Jackman. Musical theater heaven right there.

[Justin Sylvester]

That's gonna be a great one.

[Ria]

Alexander Skarsgard and Stellan Skarsgard. Okay.

[Fran]

Some brothers.

[Justin Sylvester]

Dad and mom. Dad and bro.

[Ria]

Dad and son.

[Fran]

Brothers.

[Justin Sylvester]

No, dad.

[Ria]

Dad. Stellan is dad.

[Fran]

Right, yeah, sorry.

[Ria]

I always forget which ones. Stellan is the one that plays. He's in Mamma Mia.

[Fran]

That's a bad.

[Ria]

He's so many other things. Mamma Mia is definitely. That's like me being like Pierce Brosnan. He's in Mamma Mia.

[Justin Sylvester]

He's in Mamma Mia.

[Fran]

That's what I would say for Pierce Brosin.

[Ria]

That's what I would say. Forget James Bond. He's in Mamma Mia.

[Fran]

Yeah. No, but he is. He is. No, I know.

[Ria]

Yes. Kate Hudson and Jeremy Allen White.

[Justin Sylvester]

That's a good one, by the way. She'll flirt with him the whole fucking time.

[Ria]

That's a cute one. Colin Farrell and Jesse Buckley. That's a cute one. She's having a moment right now. She was apparently incredible in Hamnet. Kelly said she saw it. And Jennifer Lawrence and Leo.

[Fran]

Oh, can't get that one.

[Ria]

I think Jennifer Lawrence will pull some great energy out of 100%. I want her to go in like. Like slightly unhinged and be like, let's. Let's talk about weird shit together.

[Fran]

Yeah, we're home. That's a great one.

[Justin Sylvester]

You should definitely go.

[Ria]

Oh, I. I heard it's a.

[Justin Sylvester]

By the way, it's an at home movie.

[Ria]

Yeah, that's. Yeah, that's just.

[Justin Sylvester]

But I also blame myself. I went to the movie, I saw the two of them, like, being kind of giggly and fun in interviews. So I thought, oh, let me go see that movie. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I didn't even know what it was about.

[Ria]

Totally. I think that's.

[Justin Sylvester]

And then I went there and I was like, wait, hold. Hold the fucking phone.

[Ria]

Yeah, I think she started warning. That's why they started warning people in interviews afterwards. They were like, by the way, this is not like Katniss and Edward in a movie together, Guys. Like, this is like, this is not the vibe.

[Justin Sylvester]

Yeah, don't go. Like, literally, if you don't take Lexapro, please don't go see this movie in a theater. Like, bring your Lexapro with you. It is sad.

[Ria]

Exactly. I was gonna take one of.

[Fran]

Those are some really great paragraphs.

[Justin Sylvester]

I thought Jennifer Lopez was doing actors on actors. I saw her do something.

[Ria]

She's not on this list.

[Fran]

Who's Teyana Taylor with again?

[Ria]

Oscar Isaac.

[Fran]

Nice.

[Chloe Tucker Cain]

Yeah.

[Fran]

Teyana Taylor has the best body of all time. I mean, watching that movie because I just watched it one battle after another.

[Chloe Tucker Cain]

You're just like.

[Fran]

And I remember we saw when she did the music video. She did fade. Yeah, the music video.

[Justin Sylvester]

It's.

[Ria]

It's incredible.

[Fran]

It's really just incredible. And we need to take note of it. You know what I mean? She's so talented.

[Justin Sylvester]

Have you been all fair? Have you been watching that? By the way, it gets better after episode two.

[Ria]

I. I have to. I have to admit, I watched episode.

[Fran]

One and never went to it.

[Hunter or Holland]

No, no.

[Justin Sylvester]

By the way, skip episode two.

[Chloe Tucker Cain]

Fuck episode two.

[Fran]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Justin Sylvester]

Throw that bitch out. Go to episode three.

[Ria]

Fell asleep. And like, when I woke up, it was like three fourths of the way through episode two. So I'll just go to episode three.

[Justin Sylvester]

No, no, go to episode three.

[Fran]

Do you think I should watch?

[Justin Sylvester]

I think you should get back into it because I'm gonna be honest. I'm so sorry for any Kim K fan here because you are gonna be upset. I think that Ryan Murphy wrote this show thinking that he was writing for everybody else.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Justin Sylvester]

And A lot of times in Ryan Murphy shows, if you look at Sarah Paulson, there's always a big monologue. There's always these big over the top moments like he writes it, and these women go ham.

[Ria]

Yep.

[Justin Sylvester]

I think Kim K. Came into this being what she thought Kim K. As a lawyer would be. However, Ryan Murphy wrote the show around her.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Justin Sylvester]

And honestly, she's just not a leading lady yet.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Justin Sylvester]

So I think what happened was episode one and episode two were already in the can as far as writing. What they did for her in episode three is they kind of met her where she was in her acting skills. So it's written better for her.

[Ria]

I did see people say, like, it gets better for her as it goes on.

[Justin Sylvester]

And it wasn't, again, it wasn't her fault. It was Ryan Murphy writing Orion Murphy show for an actress he thought was.

[Ria]

You don't see a lot of very monotone speakers excel in Ryan Murphy productions. That's not Ryan Murphy.

[Justin Sylvester]

No, you can't be there. But he, again, maybe it was his fault for stretching his writing too far for her. But in episode 3 and 4A, they focus more on Sarah Paulson. They focus more on Niecy Nash, and she is really still in the show, but she is just at the perfect pace for her.

[Ria]

Yeah. In the world of movies, the last thing we have is that Quentin Tarantino went on a podcast and he was ranking his top films. He talks about Paul Thomas Anderson's There Will Be Blood, and he's sharing his best movies of the 21st century. And he ranked that movie at number five, noting that it would stand a better chance to be a number one or number two if it didn't have a big giant flaw in it. And the flaw, this is direct quote, and the flaw is Paul Dano. Obviously it's supposed to be a two handed hander. And it's also so drastically obvious that it's not a two hander. He is weak sauce, man. He's a weak sister crazy.

[Fran]

By the way, he also said he's the weakest actor in sag.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Justin Sylvester]

Here's the jam, Paul. I don't know how I know how you pissed him off. You weren't available for him one time.

[Ria]

He. He called him the limpest dick in the world.

[Justin Sylvester]

Yeah, Paul, by the way, straight men, when you piss a straight white man off with money, get ready, right? Get ready. Okay? Because like, if you hear about a divorce where like, this white man will be like, I will spend $50 million so you don't get 5, you know what I mean? This is the same exact thing. Like, he pissed him off, and he's been waiting for years because Paul Dano probably told him he was not available to audition or to be in a movie or whatever it might be. But. But Paul Dano better send his ass an Edible Arrangement, because everybody's talking about Paul Dano now, and this motherfucker is about to get another movie role.

[Fran]

I was thinking that he gets great roles. He does. But another great director out there is going to see this and go, well, I think Paul Dano's great, and he's going to be the star. A director that doesn't like Quentin Tarantino. He's going to pop in and be like, paul Dano's the star of this movie.

[Justin Sylvester]

Paul Dano's getting it.

[Fran]

Paul Dano's probably sitting back going, this.

[Ria]

Is great for me. It's just like, yeah, okay, Quentin, you freak. Yeah, but here's the thing.

[Fran]

You say that, but Quentin Tarantino is also one of the greatest directors. The thing is, like, people were mad at Quentin Tarantino, but they couldn't be like, well, Quentin Tarantino doesn't even make good movies.

[Justin Sylvester]

You know what I mean?

[Fran]

They couldn't say that. They were like, oh, well, he fucking likes feet.

[Justin Sylvester]

Yeah.

[Fran]

Like, that's.

[Justin Sylvester]

That's all they can say about him. And also, like, not every actor is supposed to be like, top Bill. Like, Paul Dano is an actor who comes in, does some weird fucking shit, and steals the movie.

[Fran]

The weakest actor in SAG is crazy.

[Ria]

Limpest dick in the world. Limpest dick in the world.

[Fran]

I don't know. I don't know what happened here. Maybe he. He.

[Ria]

I was gonna say there's.

[Fran]

He fucked Quentino's wife.

[Ria]

There's something going on, by the way.

[Justin Sylvester]

I don't know what he did, but again, I didn't know what Paul's last name was. I just knew he was the weird dude from those movies.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Justin Sylvester]

People are Googling panel right now and are hitting him up, up, and they're.

[Fran]

Like, oh, it's that guy. That's what they're doing when they're Googling Paul Dano.

[Justin Sylvester]

By the way, I had a Twitter exchange with some random woman who's an actress or a celebrity, and I was like, holy, something's up. Like, oh, my God, everyone's gonna be mad at me. I got my last agent from that exchange.

[Fran]

So you never know.

[Justin Sylvester]

You never know.

[Ria]

That is true. That is true. He's been in so much stuff, too. It's one of Those guys, you're like.

[Fran]

I'm not quite sure. Paul Dano is struggling to work with anybody.

[Ria]

No, for sure.

[Fran]

But I think, think it'll be even easier now.

[Justin Sylvester]

But the weakest actor in Zach is pretty up.

[Fran]

Yeah, you get. Today, you're the king of Hollywood, and today Paul Dano's the weakest actor in sag.

[Justin Sylvester]

Paul Dano better call and get that.

[Fran]

Whatever she's on, whatever that.

[Justin Sylvester]

You better call Paul Dano and give him your script, bitch.

[Fran]

Whatever that antidepressant is that.

[Justin Sylvester]

When she told me about that, she needs to be on that commercial.

For you guys who know but bleep her name out. I came here and the PA who got me at the elevator was floating on cloud nine. And I was like, oh, my God, you look. So I said, oh, my God, you. Did you change your hair? She goes, no, I. I just got new anti anxiety medication. And I'm like, oh, is that what it is? Because you look like you're floating. She's like, yeah, you know, it's. I don't know what it's called, but it's. It's like codeine mixed with like a Wellbutrin. I'm like, like, ma', am, your highs are high here.

[Fran]

You just let everybody know you were super high.

[Chloe Tucker Cain]

And that's.

[Ria]

We're happy for you. That's some Gen Z shit right there too, you know, where they're like, yeah, I changed up my meds. I'm feeling good, by the way.

[Justin Sylvester]

I said, well, good for you. It was really nice to see you. I'm gonna do this podcast. Why don't you cut up a line for us?

[Fran]

Right. So we have to let you go so you can meet. Yes, you can meet her in the green room.

[Ria]

And honestly, we gotta. Now we gotta wrap up. So that's it.

[Fran]

Perfect time. Perfect.

[Justin Sylvester]

Oh, my God, I love you guys.

[Fran]

We love when you. You come in.

[Ria]

Thank you so, so much. And everyone.

[Fran]

And we're excited to watch you on Sunday.

[Hunter or Holland]

Yeah.

[Ria]

Tune in Sunday Night Football on Peacock for reality hot seats. It's going to be great. I'm excited to see. I'm excited to see you and Boss and Rob chop it up about you're.

[Fran]

Going to be the leader of that pack, I hope. Yeah. You will be 100%. All right. Thanks, sports gang.

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[Ria]

All right, everyone, we're here with a very special guest. We have Chloe Tucker Cain from Owning Manhattan in the studio with her dog Sadie as well, who is stealing the show. And Rhea said, fran, do the intro because I'm busy.

[Chloe Tucker Cain]

I'm psychedelic when she's around, so I'm used to it.

[Fran]

Sadie and I are bonding, of course. She just loves my jacket, I think.

[Chloe Tucker Cain]

Yeah, she's a hugger.

[Ria]

Just looks like another.

[Chloe Tucker Cain]

I know.

[Hunter or Holland]

I love it.

[Chloe Tucker Cain]

I love it.

[Fran]

Can you come up here?

[Ria]

Come on up here.

[Fran]

So sweet.

[Ria]

This is. I was gonna say this whole chair smells like my dog as she sits on my lap when we record.

[Chloe Tucker Cain]

Oh.

[Ria]

So it's probably all the smells are on here, but thanks so much for joining us.

[Fran]

So happy to be here. Thank you for joining us. New season of Owning Manhattan is out now, so we want to talk all about it. How are we feeling? We were just talking to you. You said, you know, maybe you haven't seen all of it yet, but you've seen your audition tape that was put out there.

[Chloe Tucker Cain]

I did. I saw that. I've seen some clips.

[Fran]

Yes.

[Chloe Tucker Cain]

I saw the first episode so far, and I'm terrified to see the rest. It's a very weird thing when you don't get to see it before and you watch it with the rest of the world.

[Fran]

Right. What are you terrified about?

[Chloe Tucker Cain]

I mean, you just. We filmed. We started when my baby was six months and she's now almost two. So you film so much and you just don't really know where they're gonna go with the story, how your own personal story is gonna be told. And it's like, it's a bit scary because they can really go in whatever direction most fits what they want to say.

[Fran]

Yeah, that is a while now you really think about it. You're a year and a half.

[Ria]

I mean, what did you film?

[Chloe Tucker Cain]

Yeah, we filmed. We started in. God, I don't even know when. Yeah, almost a year and a half ago.

[Ria]

Okay.

[Chloe Tucker Cain]

Yeah.

[Ria]

So, yeah, that is a big gap of time where a lot. A lot changes. A lot happens, especially in the. In the real estate world. Like, I feel like the business could change so much from so much from then to now. But I'd love to know a little bit more. I'm, like, so distracted by this doll. She's too cute. I'd love to know a little bit more of you, you know, joining the process of joining Sirhant, because I kind of feel like we saw a lot season one, but we hear a lot about, you know, the wanting to be on Broadway and all those. Which I want to talk about too. But where did, like, the real estate jump into the picture?

[Chloe Tucker Cain]

Yeah, so I. I was always doing theater. That was what we were doing. I came out of the womb. My mom stuck me in theater camp from four on. And then, you know, I went to college for it. I applied to one school. It was the Boston Conservatory. I got a full scholarship. And then I had an opportunity to audition for Mamma Mia. It was an open call. It was my first professional audition and booked the lead role. Did it for two years. And then I got to New York and I didn't realize that I was actually, like, really killing it. Like, I had a great team behind me. I was always in the room for things. I was always getting the. She's really great. She's not right for this. But I think because everything else happened so quickly in my head, being so young, I was like, they're just saying I'm not good enough. But, like, no one told me I wasn't good enough but me, when I, like, really think about it.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Chloe Tucker Cain]

Anyways, flash forward to me bartending, you know, trying to make a boss. But I was, like, a terrible bartender. I was so bad at it. So I kept getting fired. And I was like, well, let me Airbnb my apartment and I'll just live with my boyfriend, my now husband at the time. And that got super illegal. And so, yeah, he was like, why don't you just get a real estate license? Like, you're really good at this. And I was like, okay, I guess I'll get a license. And I loved it. And I just, you know, I did the course in two weeks and I was like, wait, like, okay, whatever. Like, never mind. Theater. Let me focus on this. Like, I'm gonna be the best at this.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Chloe Tucker Cain]

And I started finding clients on Facebook and did, like, 100 rentals my first year. Then I got a rental building. And then. And then I was like, I have to watch Million Dollar Listing, because that's what you do when you go into.

[Ria]

Real estate, of course.

[Chloe Tucker Cain]

And I, like, totally fell in love with Ryan Sirhan, and. And I watched all his videos, and I was like, I'm gonna copy him. I'm gonna make the same type of videos, and when I get to 10 videos, I'm gonna reach out. And I got to six videos, and someone from his team was like, hey, we love what you're doing. Come work with us.

[Fran]

That's awesome.

[Chloe Tucker Cain]

Sorry. That's, like, a very long story of, like, how we got down here.

[Fran]

I love it. Love to hear about it.

[Ria]

And you can tell, like, that he obviously loves the power of social media and all and all that. So I feel like that's a perfect way to get in with him.

[Fran]

Yeah, for sure. And you talk about, you know, the open call for Mamma Mia. And getting the lead. What was that like for you? Because then after that, like you said, then you hear no, and it's like, oh, what? What do you mean? I'm not getting this right away.

[Chloe Tucker Cain]

It was very confusing, right? Because I was so young, and it was like, oh, you know, I. I left school to go do a show called. I think it was like, the next Elle Woods. Making of Elle Woods. Legally bought on mtv.

[Ria]

Yes.

[Chloe Tucker Cain]

The Search for Elle Woods.

[Ria]

Yes. And I. Oh, I remember that.

[Chloe Tucker Cain]

Yes.

[Ria]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Fran]

Okay.

[Chloe Tucker Cain]

And I was in college, and I made the. You know, they basically pick a group of girls, they have you sign a contract, and then they, like, film the audition. So I was like, great. Like, I'm in. Like, I'm packing up my bags. I'd been in school for four months. I was like, peace out. I'm gonna go be a Broadway star. I got kicked off the first episode, like, Beat One Moment One. And then I was like, well, now what? Like, I'm not going back to school. That's, like, very humiliating. I told everyone I was gonna, like, be a Broadway star.

[Fran]

And, like, I'm on Broadway.

[Ria]

I was like, got to be even worse at, like, a theater school. It's like, you.

[Fran]

I can't. I can't go back now.

[Chloe Tucker Cain]

I, like, was horrified. I was like. I became a recluse. I was like, I can't look at anyone. But, yeah, I was, like, partying for a minute, like, just being. I'D never just, like, been young and had fun. I was always, like, performing. And then I was like, okay, Chloe, like, get back. Get back on your bullshit. So, like, go to an open call. Like, use the muscle. And it was for Mamma Mia. And I went and I booked the role right away. So I feel like things had always come very easy and natural, which. It felt easy, but I'd been working at it since I was very young. So when I got to New York, like, because I wasn't getting it handed to me on a silver platter, I was like, what's. Wait a minute. Like, actually, I've always thought I'd get to New York and they'd be like, oh, my God, you're here. And actually, they were like, you're great. But, like, wait, your turn.

[Fran]

She's arrived.

[Chloe Tucker Cain]

Yeah. Like, I was like, where is the parade? Like, I know what's happening. So.

[Fran]

That is so cool, though. That's awesome. Do you think that your experience in acting in theater really helps you be a great real estate agent?

[Chloe Tucker Cain]

I mean, totally, because it's. It's all a performance, right? You know, like, places, people. It's time to start the show. You know, you have your clients come in, and you're presenting an apartment, and it's. I've always kind of thought of it as, you know, you're putting on a.

[Fran]

Show, and if you're having a shitty day, you're in a mood, you're like, well, it's time. I have to sell this home 100%.

[Chloe Tucker Cain]

You know, gotta put your big girl pants on, put the costume on, and go to work.

[Ria]

Yeah, yeah. The. The musical aspect of selling a townhouse, a new idea that, you know, haven't seen, but on this season, we see it.

[Chloe Tucker Cain]

We sure do.

[Ria]

And you really. You put together a whole show, and at first seemed like Niall was like, mmm, this feels like a crazy idea. Then you walked him through it, and then he seemed like he really was. Then he was like, well, we could do this here and we could do this there. Was it hard to convince him to join in on that idea?

[Chloe Tucker Cain]

Oh, the guy, like, did not answer my calls for, like, the first 10 days after I put this idea into the world. I think he, like, the guy's a performer. The guy loves a bit. And so I think, first of all, I think he thought it was, like, a crazy idea. He's like, what do you mean? Like, you want to have, you know, an orchestra out the windows and a full musical and dancers like that. That's like, okay, like, yeah, great idea, Chloe. And then the more he kept seeing it and, like, seeing how serious I was about it, I think he got more and more excited. And then he got terrified. He was like, wait, I'm gonna, like, sing. Like, what if I'm not good?

[Ria]

Like, it was very.

[Chloe Tucker Cain]

He had, like, an internal crisis. And it was so fun to watch.

[Ria]

The. Is it. Is it hard when the show obviously doesn't come out for so long after you're doing all these things? Because it's like you're making all these things for social media. So a lot of it, people see on social. And then we watch again on the show.

[Chloe Tucker Cain]

Yeah, it's definitely hard. I feel like I'm really excited to re release a lot of stuff.

[Ria]

Right. I mean, I remember seeing the musical. The musical and thinking, wow, what is happening here? And now we're seeing it on the show.

[Chloe Tucker Cain]

Yeah. So it's cool to be able to. You know, at the time, it was such a big, big deal, and it felt so amazing. And then you kind of are like, yeah, that happened.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Chloe Tucker Cain]

So now to be like, no, like, this was a really cool thing we did. I get to share this with so many more people, and it led to so many other things. I started, like, a musical web series, so I get to re release a lot of stuff, which is exciting.

[Ria]

The. There's so many. I feel like, you know, obviously now we're in this era of these real estate reality shows, and a lot of it, you know, is on Netflix, and people are obsessed with them, and they're so great. But I think, like, what I love about owning Manhattan is I feel like I actually. No offense to the other. Some of the other people, like, I'm.

[Chloe Tucker Cain]

Actually watching read them for Phil.

[Ria]

Real Estate. Like, people that work. No, I feel like I'm really watching people that work.

That's such an interesting part of the show to me, especially with this season two and, like, seeing Ryan approach other agents that are at different brokerages and being like, you should come to Sirhan, and then all of a sudden, these people are finding themselves on tv. It's like. Like, it's a. It's obvious. It's a big change. So I'd love to know how you guys all talked about taking your jobs and putting it on tv.

[Chloe Tucker Cain]

Yeah. I know that Ryan, especially, really set out to do something very different. He's done Million Dollar Listing. He's done the real estate show. And I think he was like, okay, but what's next? And I think the way he approached it in the Producers, which I thought was very cool, was, was. It was like, we're going to make a reality show, but approach it. We're gonna make a reality show, but approach it like a scripted show. So we're gonna take your real lives, we're not going to make up stories, we're not going to try to make it all the drama. We're going to take your real lives and set it up looking like a succession. Right. So you really are just capturing the deals. Like you're really seeing us, us fight each other. Not necessarily on a personal level. Sometimes, you know, it gets like a little messy. But, you know, real estate itself is dramatic and it's exciting that people get to see what it really is and can be like when things get, you know, pretty crazy as it can. Yeah.

[Fran]

Especially, you know, with the places you guys are selling and the big numbers that are thrown out there.

[Chloe Tucker Cain]

That's why it happens. And I think the emotions do get so high because, you know, there is so much money on the line. These commissions can be huge. And if someone else is coming in and they're not only threatening you on a personal level, they're threatening your bank account, you know, they're threatening your way of life. And so it can get very, very competitive.

[Fran]

Yeah. So we know that Ryan Sarhant has a crazy routine. He was actually one of our first.

[Ria]

One of our first guests ever on the show. Yeah. Probably like 2018.

[Fran]

Yeah, like seven years ago.

[Ria]

Yeah, like a while ago. Talking about million dollar listeners.

[Fran]

Yeah, we were talking to him about that and we learned all about his routine and his lifestyle. What is your routine like, any. Anything like that?

[Chloe Tucker Cain]

It's absolutely nothing like Ryan's. The guy is a literal robot. You know, I think his wife like plugs him in in the mornings to get him going. Like, it's. That's not how we operate over here. I'm also a new mom. You know, I have 20 month old, so, like it's chaotic. You know, some. No morning is the same. It really depends on how she slept the night before, what time we wake up. And then, you know, I'm with her for the first few hours and then thankfully I have a nanny who comes. And then, you know, my day really just depends. If I have showings, am I in the office, am I recording vocals, am I doing something on the musical side? So it's. Every day is very, very different, but it's fun. I could never do the. I'm not regimented. I am an ADHD queen. Like, every day is different. Like Every moment is different. We're living on the same.

[Fran]

Exactly. No, I. I give props to people who can wake up at the same exact 4am every single morning. They do the same exact thing. They eat the same exact thing. You know what? Props to them.

[Chloe Tucker Cain]

Props. But, like, are you okay?

[Fran]

Yeah, it's just like. Like you said, it's like, plug in. Like, at night, he's, like, powering down, literally.

[Chloe Tucker Cain]

I think he, like, runs to his room and just, like, falls into bed. Turns off zombie. Yeah.

[Ria]

Zombie sleep. And then right back up. Yeah.

[Noah]

It.

[Ria]

And I think, like, seeing the dynamics of everybody in the office and different teams and. And friendships. What's the hardest part of trying to be friends with your, like, colleagues, do you think?

[Chloe Tucker Cain]

I think we're all so competitive. Yeah. That's what, unfortunately, makes a really good real estate agent.

[Ria]

I feel like that's.

[Chloe Tucker Cain]

Yeah.

[Ria]

I feel like real estate is so competitive, so.

[Chloe Tucker Cain]

It is so competitive. So it's very hard to not mix business and friendships and take things personally when it comes to something they did with their business.

[Fran]

Right.

[Chloe Tucker Cain]

So things can get very complicated there. But you also have a lot more respect for the friends you do have, because not only do you like them, you think they're, like, really good at what they do, and there's just, like, a huge mutual respect, especially with a lot of people in the office. That's, like, very cool.

[Fran]

Right. It must be hard, sort of, because you root for your friends. You want your friends to succeed and do well, but at the same time, when you're competing in the same space for that money, for that check, that can get a little difficult.

[Chloe Tucker Cain]

You know, I think for me, especially growing up in theater, that's really what I think made me get in my head and give up, is comparing myself to other people.

Having a hard time when other people got something over me or a role over me. So real estate changed me in so many ways because it made me realize that a lot of the times, like, it's not personal. Yeah. You know, I may not be the right agent for everyone. Someone may love the idea of turning a listing into a musical number, and other people may be, like, that's ridiculous. So, like, I may be right for this person, but, you know, Jessica Taylor or someone else in the office may be the right fit.

[Fran]

Right.

[Chloe Tucker Cain]

So it's also, like, made me become a better performer and entertainer because I've taken the pressure off, too.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Chloe Tucker Cain]

The.

[Ria]

In this season, we see kind of like, where your friendship is with Jade and the ups and downs, and it seems like at the beginning, we're at a down. It's not good. Between you guys, how have things. Has anything shifted?

[Chloe Tucker Cain]

Yeah, we're actually in a really good place. Like, she's like my sister, you know, at the end of the day, she's like my ride or die. Like, and I am to her. But things get really messy when you're on a reality show. And what I love about some of these other shows is, like, you know, the Morven Wives is breaking that fourth wall. You're seeing what it's like filming a show with these other women, where for us, we're a different type of show. We really want to focus on the deals and not open the curtain to that. So a lot of the issues we had season one was about things that were happening on camera. Like, is this real? Were you making up a storyline like the podcast? Yeah.

[Ria]

Like, all these things. Yeah.

[Chloe Tucker Cain]

It's like, are these bits or like, do you feel this way? Like, everyone didn't really know where they. They stood with each other. We're like, to the point where, like, I literally thought Jade, my best friend, was making up a storyline about her husband cheating on her. Like, that's where things. How crazy things were getting.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Chloe Tucker Cain]

And the distrust between everyone. And it wasn't only me that thought that, like, we all, as a cast thought this girl was making up a storyline that her husband of 10 years was cheating for camera. And it turned out, like, that wasn't the case. He really was cheating. Like, and it was actually really bad. And, you know, she was obviously very hurt by that.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Chloe Tucker Cain]

And I felt very guilty about that. So I think, you know, and then I think she kind of attacked me. She, like, put some articles out that were kind of nasty.

[Ria]

She. And in the beginning of this season, she does kind of make it seem like she felt you took his side and kind of were defending him. I know there was one moment where she was like, he only. She defended that he only cheated. Like, he said he only cheated twice.

[Chloe Tucker Cain]

She says. She said says this. Okay. When I watch she's first season, like, what she says is basically, Chloe took my husband's side. And Chloe was like, well, he only cheated twice. And I'm like, no, he cheated seven times. When I heard that, it was like the biggest punch to the gut, because I feel like two people can have the same experience and remember it so differently. Like, at the time, I was still. This was like, years ago. I did not believe this girl about her husband cheating. Yeah. So, you know, she was like, he seated. He cheated on me seven times. And I'm like, well, I thought you said it was twice.

[Fran]

Right.

[Ria]

You know, where, what's the story?

[Chloe Tucker Cain]

Where she was hearing it as me just like defending, defending, defending him, like picking his side. Like, we just experienced it differently. So there's just like been a lot of like, missed crossed wires for the past couple years. And like two people who love each other but are so hurt and finally, finally, fingers crossed. I think we've really, really worked hard to move past it and be like, no, like, I love you, I respect you. Like, I have your back. Like, let's go back to taking on the world together.

[Hunter or Holland]

Good.

[Chloe Tucker Cain]

I love that.

[Ria]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Fran]

I was gonna ask if there was anything from the first or second season now that you kind of wish didn't happen.

[Chloe Tucker Cain]

Yeah, I mean, I mean, watching yourself on reality tv, sometimes the story is like manipulated slightly just so that, that the audience understands, but like, other times it's like showing you a mirror of yourself. Yeah. And I think me being new to real estate, like a five foot one woman, like, I think I always felt like, oh, no, I need to be confrontational. Like, I need to seem like someone that sticks up for themselves and puts people in their places. And like, watching that back from season one, just, it was like me walking into every room and being like. And another thing, like, no context, nothing. I was like, you know what? Like, I actually don't feel like that was authentic. Like, I think once again, being in theater, when there's cameras on you and they're like, well, why don't you go, like, confront that person about what you were telling us you're upset about? And I'm like, okay, yes. And like, get the camera ready.

[Fran]

Performance. Right.

[Chloe Tucker Cain]

So you. I think people like, Whitney is a good example. Like, she has a background in performing. I'm not saying, like, she's also done things that are like, kind of shitty, but like, like, for sure, you know, it's. We're more comfortable on the camera, which can sometimes get us in trouble.

[Ria]

That's, that's definitely true. I wanted, I want to ask about the, the love for theater. And, you know, you say multiple times and you said it's like you've been doing it for as long as you can remember. What was your, your first big role that you remember?

[Chloe Tucker Cain]

Oh, my God. I. You know, it's funny. One of the big roles I did in high school was Chicago Amazing. But I was a Velma, so they stunt cast the Roxy. I'm like, I am a Velma. But that was A show that I did when I was like, I'm gonna do this role on Broadway one day. Like, there's no question in my head. So, you know, if it happens, it happens.

[Fran]

Yeah. Hey, you never know.

[Ria]

Well, now, how do you try and, like, balance it all? Because I think obviously now being on a show, it is a big platform. And just like, referencing Whitney is like, you get to be on a TV show and hope hopefully it can take you other places.

[Chloe Tucker Cain]

You mean, like, straight to Dancing with the swords? Yeah, like.

[Ria]

Exactly.

[Fran]

Stars to Broadway.

[Ria]

Right? What are the. What are the opportunities we're manifesting?

[Chloe Tucker Cain]

Oh, yeah. I mean, I wanna. You know, I. It's funny. Like, I literally had a talk with my therapist, and, like, before this week, I was, like, so scared to, like, say what I wanted. I was like, I don't know. Like, I'm gonna put it out there, and, like, hopefully people think I'm good enough. And I'm like, chloe, like, shut up. Like, you've been working towards this since you were 4. Like, I still warm up every single day and, like, take dance class. Like, we are ready. Like, I want to do Broadway. I want to do Dancing with the Stars, and I want to be able to perform at night and do real estate by day.

[Ria]

Y. There you go.

[Fran]

Let's not forget you getting the Mama me on an open call.

[Chloe Tucker Cain]

There you go. You can forget that. I mean, also, Whitney, she's like, I booked my first movie. I was like, chloe, you did a movie this year. Like, you also book like you are doing it. Like, what is. Like, no one has told you you are not good enough but yourself.

[Fran]

It's just that constant drive to keep.

[Chloe Tucker Cain]

Wanting to prove yourself totally and just get. I. For the first time in my life, being a new mom, I need to get out of my own way because it's for my daughter. I don't want my daughter to look at her mom and be like, wow. Like, she really had these. Like, she really worked hard and she was talented, but she kept getting stuck in her own head.

[Ria]

Right.

[Chloe Tucker Cain]

I don't want. I don't want my daughter to see that. So we're getting out of our own way and we're going for the things we want.

[Ria]

How do you now obviously, being online and sharing so much with the show and. But also. So using your social media presence for Broadway, for real estate, everything, how do you kind of deal with any maybe negative feedback that you get now? It's like, I don't care.

[Chloe Tucker Cain]

Not well. We, like, shut ourselves in the bathroom and have a Good little cry and then we, you know, get out of it. No, I think that is true, but I think last season I was just like, every comment I felt like I had to respond to. Cause I just felt like so much of the story wasn't being told.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Justin Sylvester]

Yeah.

[Chloe Tucker Cain]

Since then, I've really made a promise to myself just to not look like, to not care, to stay in my own lane. And even with the other girls on the cast, like, we all are so different, you know, Jade is her own thing. She's sexy and she wants to do these things. Like, I'm in my theater era, so it's like, just like, cut out the noise. Don't pay attention to the comments. Some people are going to think I'm super talented and others are going to be like, this girl, like, like, sucks. Like, who does she think she is? And like, it's not my problem.

[Fran]

Yeah, you're like, it's not my business.

[Chloe Tucker Cain]

It's not my business what people think of me. Yep, yep. That's.

[Ria]

That's so fair.

[Fran]

Yeah. I want to talk more about design and homes. I mean, I feel like that's gotta be so fun to just get to go to these insane places and kind of dream it up, right? Like, you walk in and you're like, oh, my gosh, imagine living here. But what are your hot takes or absolute no's when you walk in a place? Even if from. From the Eye to Us is like, this is amazing.

[Chloe Tucker Cain]

I'm from la, like, born and raised, you know, in West Hollywood. So I'm used to these, like, very big homes with, like, big outdoor space. So coming to New York, it's hard to kind of put in perspective what things cost. The thing for me, especially in New York, is like, you need somewhere with good light. You know, you need to get that vitamin D on your skin. Otherwise, you know that seasonal depression will get you no matter how rich you. So, you know, I think light is a big one. I think being in a building that you love is really important. I know this sounds silly, but, like, loving your doorman, like, you know, being really comfortable where I've lived in the same rental building for 10 years because, like, I'm obsessed with the staff and the doorman. So it's like, you know, finding a place that, like, really feels like home and a community and somewhere you're excited to go every day and location is really important. You know, I always tell all, you know, these young kids who are moving from Indiana, you know, to New York, like, like, where. Where are you working? Like, let's figure out where in town you're working and what trains are close to that. So that when we're looking for apartments, like, we want to make your life as easy as possible when you're in this like new city.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Fran]

So how do you deal with people going, this is the price of that, Especially in New York.

[Chloe Tucker Cain]

I'm like, girl, I know, like, I hear you. Like, I totally understand where you're coming from, but, but it's New York City, you know, like, if you don't want it, I can guarantee you someone else will.

[Fran]

That is true.

[Chloe Tucker Cain]

So, you know, if you love it, you better, you know, buckle up.

[Ria]

Yeah, that is very true. We see some insane properties on the show. What has been the craziest space you've gotten to, to see in Manhattan through Mark?

[Chloe Tucker Cain]

And I think Ryan's 250 million dollar listing was insane. Like it was so high up that your ears would pop. Like, it was just the opulence of it and the views and it was really crazy to think like, wow, this is a 250 million dollar apartment. The amount of people in the world that can afford this is like 13. Like, you know, it's like it's too high up.

[Fran]

I wouldn't want to live there anyway.

[Chloe Tucker Cain]

Oh yeah, exactly. So this is not for me. Yeah.

[Ria]

Altitude.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Ria]

Yeah. I, I want to say like, I mean it's, it's so crazy to me and I'm so fascinated by New York City real estate from just now. I've been living in the city for almost.

10 years. It'll be 10 years next year.

[Chloe Tucker Cain]

Congratulations.

[Ria]

Yes. And I was, and you know, I was on the bri side and now I'm, now I'm in Chelsea and it's just been like, like I still just hold on to being in New York despite, you know, some of my friends starting to move to the suburbs and like make these changes. But I like, especially watching this show, I love seeing what you guys are showing. And then I'm on, I'm on street easy looking at like all the apartments and everything in the area. Like, what's, what's your biggest advice to, to people in New York who are, you know, trying to, to find something that is suitable for their family.

In the, in real estate.

[Chloe Tucker Cain]

Yeah. You really have to look at what makes sense. You gotta, you gotta run the numbers, you know, and, and there's always a catch in New York. There's not ever gonna be that perfect apartment that ticks every single box. But you have to look at it like what makes the most sense for me and my lifestyle and my family and go from there. And it's really important to not only look at the price, price, because that's the one thing about New York on the buy side is like, we have maintenance, you know, we have the taxes. Some of these buildings, it can be astronomical, but the price is low. Or vice versa. But, you know, you have to really kind of let go and think of where am I going to be the happiest?

[Fran]

Yeah, that is true. That.

[Ria]

That is very true.

[Chloe Tucker Cain]

And if you're a renter, like, get all your documents in order or you're not gonna get the appropriate.

[Fran]

That is great advice too. Just have the documents ready.

[Chloe Tucker Cain]

That's like. If I could give any advice, advice to young people is take all the documents. There are five. You can email me if you need to know exactly what they are, but put them in a PDF, because the way that landlords pick the person that's going to get the apartment is like the first one in with the deposit and the documents that check out. Send them to the broker. Even if it's like you're not sure about it, like it's gonna hold your.

[Ria]

Spot for a year.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Ria]

So this is, and this is kind of a random question, but my friends and I were talking about it, so I wanna know your opinion.

[Chloe Tucker Cain]

Oh, God. Here.

[Ria]

No, this is like once again, very real estate focus. But there's all these TikTok accounts now that are people like walking into these insane apartments and they're like, this apartment is for rent. And it is like, these are gorgeous Tribeca lofts. And they're like, it's $5,000 a month. And I'm like, what am I missing here? What are we missing with those people? Like, is it all just. Are they just scamming people? They're like DM for. To DM for an interview.

[Chloe Tucker Cain]

That is what we call a class. Bait and switch, my friend. That is unfortunately the name of the game for a lot of these, like, slime ball real estate agents in New York. I got my first apartment on a bait and switch. I saw something like that online and this like random broker was like, oh, yeah, let me take you there. We get out front. He's like, oh, can't get you in today. But actually I have five other ones that I can show you. It's a bait and switch. It is, you know, low hanging fruit, as I like to call it.

[Fran]

Those are big on TikTok right now.

[Ria]

They're huge on TikTok.

[Fran]

And they.

[Ria]

And they keep coming up my. Up on my for you page, and I'm like, the amount that I pay in rent for, I live.

[Chloe Tucker Cain]

This makes no sense if it looks too good.

[Fran]

Scammers.

[Chloe Tucker Cain]

True. It is not real. That is what I tell everyone I know.

[Ria]

And then I'm always in the comments. I'm like, am I? Because people are like, I'm interested. And they're like, okay, DM me your application. I'm like, oh, my God. People are really going through and. And reaching out to these people.

[Chloe Tucker Cain]

It's actually worse because I think they're having people send in an application and money, like a deposit. So not only is it probably a bait and switch, like, it's a big old scam.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Chloe Tucker Cain]

Yeah.

[Fran]

Well, they're just, like, scamming people that have never lived in New York or don't know anything about real estate in New York. And that's how you're gonna get people like that.

[Chloe Tucker Cain]

Totally.

[Fran]

I mean, literally, like, they're preying on people that just don't have any idea, which is just messed up.

[Chloe Tucker Cain]

I mean, my mom is, like, getting it, you know, like, just from, like, Amazon and Google.

[Fran]

Oh, yeah.

[Chloe Tucker Cain]

Bitcoin, you know?

[Fran]

Yeah, yeah. I mean, all the calls and the text. Yeah, yeah. You got to be careful. You got to warn the parents out there.

[Chloe Tucker Cain]

You got to warn them. I'm like, you have to warn them.

[Fran]

You have to warn them.

[Ria]

Hello, Jen Shaw. That's exactly why she went to jail. Scamming old people.

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[Fran]

The best.

[Ria]

I know it's been a while since you guys filmed, and we do get to see some updates on social media, and one that I did see was that townhouse. The musical did sell.

[Chloe Tucker Cain]

It did.

[Ria]

Can you give us little details on how that went down?

[Chloe Tucker Cain]

You kind of see, so it's interesting. In New York City, like, things can fall through. So you kind of see us negotiate an offer, which we got. That one ended up not going through. But luckily, we got another offer that came in, and that one did close. But especially with townhouses, there's a lot of due diligence. There's a lot of inspections that have to happen, and sometimes, you know, it can really add up. So like I said, in New York City, there's always a catch.

[Ria]

Yeah, that is very true. There's one. There's one townhouse that's near where I.

[Fran]

Live, where I walk.

[Ria]

I walk my dog past it, like, Every day. And it has the Sirhan sign out front, and it's like, who's on the list? I'm not quite sure.

[Chloe Tucker Cain]

Get them off. That's my territory.

[Ria]

It is a. It is a stunning apartment. Like, it's an apartment. It's a stunning home. And I was like, you know what? For the first time the other day, I was like, let me. Let me look up what. What the listing price is on this.

[Fran]

Yeah, it's like, let me take a gander.

[Ria]

It's like a easy $25 million. I was like, oh, maybe not.

[Chloe Tucker Cain]

I think that's actually just Taylor's listing.

[Ria]

It might be.

[Chloe Tucker Cain]

I'll see if I can get you a deal.

[Ria]

I was like, this home is stunning. But yeah. Yeah, it's on, like, 20 seconds.

[Fran]

Wow.

[Chloe Tucker Cain]

You were feeling really confident, weren't you? You. We were like, let me check out.

[Ria]

Let me just go check out how.

[Chloe Tucker Cain]

Just a little townhomes you're manifesting.

[Ria]

Yeah, exactly. Maybe one day. I believe in you, Chloe. Thank you so much for joining us. We're so excited for everybody to watch the second season of Owning Manhattan on Netflix. Out now. Everyone can stream the episodes on Netflix and see all the amazing real estate and drama that you guys are getting into this season.

[Chloe Tucker Cain]

Buckle up, baby.

[Fran]

Gonna get messy. Thanks for having me, guys. Thank you so much.

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All right, ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to another game of Beatrie and Fran. This is game number 199, and we are joined by Hunter and Holland.

[Chloe Tucker Cain]

Love it.

[Fran]

They are wearing matching chicks in the office best show on earth hoodies that Hunter was able to snag at our Cincinnati show, and she brought one for her bestie. So love it. Love it. And we're keeping excited to play. Thank you guys for joining us.

[Chloe Tucker Cain]

Thank you.

[Hunter or Holland]

Thanks for having us.

[Ria]

Amazing. We're gonna kick it off with I can't believe it's game 199. So I'm really stuck on that.

[Fran]

I honestly feel like. I feel like it should be more.

[Noah]

We've been in trivia for, like, five years.

[Fran]

We have been. And I feel like it should be.

[Ria]

It's only once a week.

[Fran]

Yeah, yeah. It just feels like it's way more.

[Ria]

Yeah, yeah, that's true. That's true. Okay, it is 15 questions. If you get the question right, you get the point. If you get it wrong, the other team can steal the point. Whoever has the most points at the end wins. To determine who goes first, Noah's going to give us a movie. We're going to guess the rotten tomatoes critic score of that movie, and whoever is closest will go first. We all get our own individual guests, and we will alternate between teams for guesses. So, Noah, what is today's movie?

[Noah]

Today's movie is you've got Mail.

[Ria]

Okay, Great movie.

[Hunter or Holland]

Yeah.

[Fran]

First.

[Hunter or Holland]

That one's pretty high. I feel like it. That's really popular. I'm gonna say 85.

[Fran]

Ria.

91.

[Hunter or Holland]

Oh.

I'm gonna say.

72.

[Ria]

84.

[Noah]

72 is the closest. 69.

[Chloe Tucker Cain]

Oh.

[Fran]

Lower than I thought.

[Ria]

Lower than I thought as well.

[Noah]

Oh, it's like a rom com, though, right?

[Ria]

Yeah, but beloved.

[Noah]

Okay. Question number one to Hunter in Holland, shout out Julie from New Brunswick, Canada. And she says they also have great lobster rolls there.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Noah]

What year did the first season of love. Love is blind Air.

[Hunter or Holland]

So during COVID I was going to say 2019 or 2020.

I feel like I was. I feel like we were out of college when it came out, though, was it 2021 or 2020? I would say 20.

[Noah]

2015.

[Hunter or Holland]

All right, 2020. Final answer correct.

[Noah]

Covid.

[Fran]

Nicely done.

[Noah]

One, nothing. Hunter and Holland, question number two to reinfranch, shout out Laney from Philly. Who are the four winners of the Traders USC season three?

[Fran]

Okay, so this was this past season. It was Gabby, Wendy, Dolores, Dylan, Efron. And I thought just three people won.

No.

[Ria]

Dolores, Dylan, Gabby.

[Fran]

There's one more.

[Noah]

Five seconds.

[Hunter or Holland]

I don't remember.

[Fran]

Ugh.

[Noah]

Time is up.

[Fran]

Damn it.

[Noah]

Hot Turn hot.

[Hunter or Holland]

You know it. I know it's Gabby, Dylan, Dolores. Is it that older guy that was on it? I forget his name. He's the English guy, right? Yeah. I want to say it's not John.

It might be 15 seconds, and it's not. I can sue, right? No, she went home early.

I don't know.

[Noah]

It's. You got it right. Gabby, Dylan, Dolores, and then Ivar. Is it?

[Ria]

Yeah.

I was gonna say when they said the old guy, I was like, oh, that's totally him, but I forgot his name.

[Noah]

Yeah, yeah.

[Hunter or Holland]

Can picture him.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Ria]

That's when they throw the random British.

Aristocracy lord.

[Fran]

Yeah. I mean, hey, he. He snuck under there. Yeah, he did.

[Noah]

Okay. It is one nothing still Hunter in Holland. This question is to them. Question number three. Shadow Amy from Atlanta and partially Riley and Rhiann. Name this movie from the IMDb description. A bedridden boy's grandfather reads him the story of a farm boy turned pirate spirit who encounters numerous obstacles, enemies and allies in his quest to be reunited with his. His true love.

[Hunter or Holland]

Is that the Princess Bride?

[Fran]

Oh, I don't know.

[Hunter or Holland]

I was gonna say Willy Wonka.

[Fran]

I think it's.

[Hunter or Holland]

I think it's the Princess Bride.

[Fran]

Okay.

[Hunter or Holland]

If you poke on.

[Fran]

Okay.

[Hunter or Holland]

The Princess Bride. Final answer.

[Noah]

Correct.

[Fran]

Nice. Oh, that's nice.

[Noah]

The true love thing might have been.

[Fran]

Did everyone have to watch the Princess Bride in school? School? No, no, we did. That's really.

[Ria]

That's an intense movie to watch in school.

[Fran]

The Princess Bride. I watched it in, like, middle school.

[Ria]

Huh.

[Fran]

Would you.

[Noah]

I mean, that's a good.

[Hunter or Holland]

That's a. I think middle school.

[Ria]

Yeah, but in like, Catholic school.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Ria]

Shocking.

[Fran]

And we had a whipped cream party during it.

[Ria]

I, I, you know when they would.

[Fran]

Put the whipped cream on your desk and you play around.

[Ria]

No, we didn't do that either.

[Noah]

Had that either.

[Fran]

Oh.

[Hunter or Holland]

Never mind.

[Ria]

That movie, like, when I was younger kind of scared me like that.

[Fran]

He's.

[Ria]

He gets, like, legit torture.

[Noah]

Yeah. That torture scene is kind of intense.

[Ria]

Which I wouldn't think they would show in a Catholic school.

[Fran]

We watched the Passion of the Christ. Yeah. Fair Jesus gets tortured. She does that.

[Ria]

He does two.

[Noah]

Nothing Hunter and Holland is question number four to Re and Fran, shout out Laney from Philly. Again, complete these lyrics from Miley Cyrus's Flowers. Paint my nails cherry red.

What's the next line.

[Fran]

Giving us a.

[Ria]

Lot to work with.

[Chloe Tucker Cain]

Yeah, like.

[Fran]

No. Be.

[Ria]

No, no, it's just like. No, that's just such a short.

[Fran]

Yeah. Line.

[Ria]

Paint my nails cherry red.

[Chloe Tucker Cain]

I have no.

[Ria]

I mean, I don't know.

[Fran]

Write my name in the sand. I know that one of the things. But I don't think it's.

[Justin Sylvester]

Yeah.

[Ria]

I don't know. I can't even hear that line in the song.

[Fran]

I'm. I'm going to say.

[Noah]

Oh.

[Fran]

Oh, wait.

[Noah]

Time is up.

[Ria]

Oh, it's the beginning.

[Fran]

Okay.

[Noah]

It's a hunter, right?

[Hunter or Holland]

Yeah, that's what I was. I thought it was in the sand too, but now it's the beginning, so it's kind of fun. It's in between that. Oh, cheating.

[Justin Sylvester]

Yeah.

[Hunter or Holland]

I don't know what it is.

[Ria]

I still don't know it.

[Noah]

15 seconds.

[Hunter or Holland]

I don't know.

[Justin Sylvester]

I don't know.

[Hunter or Holland]

Oh, it's like blanking. I cannot.

[Fran]

I know.

[Hunter or Holland]

I can't even fill it in.

[Noah]

Five seconds.

[Hunter or Holland]

What's the say? Do you remember? Time is up. No, no, no answer.

[Noah]

It's paint my nails cherry red red match the roses that you left.

[Ria]

You know it's not quite so. Despite how many times I've listened to that song.

[Fran]

It was the beginning.

[Noah]

Well, no, when you. When you actually. Yeah, that's how she.

[Ria]

Yeah, that. That. That was.

[Fran]

Right.

[Ria]

It's just. Yeah.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Noah]

Okay, still two nothing. Hunter and Holland, this is question number five to them. Shout out Lauren and Brianna from. From Nova Scotia, Canada. What now? Pop star opened the first half of Olivia Rodrigo's first Tour sour in 2022.

[Fran]

I think it was.

[Hunter or Holland]

Yeah, I think it is.

[Chloe Tucker Cain]

Yeah.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Hunter or Holland]

Chop around. Final answer incorrect.

[Ria]

Oh, that's who I thought it was.

[Noah]

Re. Infrared.

[Ria]

Say it again.

[Noah]

What now? Pop star opened the first half of Olivia Rodrigo's first Tour sour in 2022.

[Fran]

Gracie Abrams.

[Ria]

That's a good guess. Wouldn't be Tate McCray, would it?

[Fran]

Oh.

It might have been. I'm in between 10 seconds.

[Ria]

I don't know if Gracie opened for Olivia ever.

Should we go?

[Fran]

I'm gonna go. Tate McCray.

[Noah]

Final answer incorrect.

[Ria]

Oh, it's Gracie Abrams.

[Hunter or Holland]

Yeah.

[Noah]

Gracie opened the first half and then chaperone opened, like, one show on the tour.

[Hunter or Holland]

Oh, okay.

[Noah]

Gracie Abrams did the entire first half.

[Ria]

Oh, that just did not.

That did not pop in my brain.

[Fran]

I need to really start going with my gut.

[Chloe Tucker Cain]

Yeah, no, you were.

[Ria]

That was.

[Fran]

I really do this quite often. Yeah. People commented the how many minutes Ria said didn't go with her gut on it or something? With an answer, sir.

[Noah]

Okay, still two nothing. Hunter and Holland. And this is question number six to R. And Fran. Shadow Amy from Atlanta again, in Friends, where do Ross and Rachel spend their first night together?

[Fran]

The dinosaur. Dinosaur museum.

[Hunter or Holland]

Whatever it is.

[Fran]

The museum.

[Ria]

Museum of.

[Fran]

I'm just going to say museum.

[Noah]

Okay.

[Fran]

Got to keep it simple. Final answer correct.

[Noah]

I would have taken museum science Museum Planetarium.

[Fran]

Yeah, I've been watching a lot of Seinfeld lately, so I thought that was gonna jumble me up right there.

[Chloe Tucker Cain]

Yeah.

[Noah]

Okay. Two, one. Hunter and Holland, question number seven to Them shout out, ali from Denver or. Oh, sorry. Eli from Denver. Eiley from Denver. In the Harry Potter. All over the place. In the Harry Potter series, what are employees of the Department of Mysteries called?

[Hunter or Holland]

Are they ors? Something of magic? Oh, I thought. I think they're ors. I know how to spell it, but I don't know how to. Hey, it's.

Do you feel confident? I do. Okay. Okay.

[Chloe Tucker Cain]

I think it's.

[Hunter or Holland]

They're called ors. It's a U, R, O, R, S. Final answer incorrect.

[Chloe Tucker Cain]

Shit.

[Ria]

I thought that's what it was, too. Say it again.

[Noah]

In the Harry Potter series, what are employees of the Department of Mysteries called?

15 seconds.

[Chloe Tucker Cain]

No clue.

[Ria]

Yeah, I don't. I got nothing.

[Noah]

Unspeakables.

[Hunter or Holland]

Oh, I don't.

[Fran]

I don't remember. That's all that.

[Chloe Tucker Cain]

That's a.

[Ria]

That's a book reference. Obviously. Harry Potter's here. I don't really think.

[Noah]

It's definitely not in the movies, though.

[Ria]

I don't think so.

[Fran]

Yeah, I think so.

[Noah]

All right.

[Ria]

Well, that's all right. It's a book question.

[Chloe Tucker Cain]

Yeah.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Noah]

Series.

[Chloe Tucker Cain]

Yeah, she.

[Ria]

She did say series.

[Noah]

Okay, still two. One. Hunter in Holland. Question number eight to Re and Fran shadow Emily from Florida. Name the movie that the character Melanie Smooter is from and the actress who plays her.

[Ria]

Do you know, is this mystery?

This is Reese Witherspoon in Sweet Home Alabama. Final answer correct.

[Hunter or Holland]

Nice.

[Justin Sylvester]

Nice.

[Hunter or Holland]

No, I didn't even think of that. Didn't come to mind.

[Noah]

Okay, that's her OG name tied up at two. Question number nine to Hunter in Holland. Shout out. Matt from Jersey. Could be Marty.

[Fran]

I was gonna say. Any questions?

[Noah]

Okay, one. What song contains the following opening two lines? She says she's no good with words, but I'm worse. Barely stuttered out of jail. Joke of a romantic stuck to my tongue.

[Hunter or Holland]

Can you repeat the question?

[Noah]

What song is this? She says she's no good with words, but I. Morris. Barely stuttered out. A joke of a romantic stuck to my tongue.

[Hunter or Holland]

Obviously It's a male.

[Noah]

15 seconds.

[Hunter or Holland]

I have no idea. I don't know, like Ed Sheeran or something. Yeah, but do you think of a song name? No.

[Chloe Tucker Cain]

No.

[Hunter or Holland]

I have no idea.

[Fran]

No clue. Zero idea.

[Ria]

I feel like it sounds like something Harry Styles would say.

[Fran]

Maybe that was the first person I thought of, but I don't know what song?

[Justin Sylvester]

No.

[Ria]

Are we guessing the song?

[Noah]

Yeah.

[Fran]

What's the name of the song?

[Ria]

I just.

[Fran]

I can't even. I.

[Ria]

You know, the lyrics is just like. It's crazy. She Said she's no good at words. What's the second part?

[Noah]

Barely stuttered out. A joke of a romantic. Stuck to my tongue three seconds.

When I say it, you're gonna be like, oh, dance, Dance by Fall Out Boy.

[Fran]

I'm not saying, but you can't think.

[Noah]

Of like the way I was purposely trying to just read it. Very like matter of fact, because I thought that if I said it in the way that he's, you know, she.

[Fran]

Said she's not like, no, I only know dance, Dance.

[Noah]

All right.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Noah]

Tied up at 2. Still.

[Ria]

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[Noah]

Question number 10 to RIA and Fran. I'm playing a movie club and you tell me what movie it's from.

[Justin Sylvester]

We're going to need a few more.

[Fran]

People helping us out.

[Justin Sylvester]

I'll tell you why. We are going to be spending an obscene amount of money in here, so we're going to need a lot more help sucking up to us because that's.

[Fran]

What we really like.

[Justin Sylvester]

You understand that. Sir, if I may say so, you're.

[Ria]

In the right store and the right.

[Justin Sylvester]

City for that matter.

[Noah]

Anything you see here we can do, by the way.

[Justin Sylvester]

Get ready to have some fun. Okay? Mary Pat, Mary Kate, Mary Frances, Tova.

[Chloe Tucker Cain]

Let's see it.

[Noah]

Come on.

[Justin Sylvester]

Bring it out.

[Ria]

Absolutely divine.

I have never felt worse at trivia than I do today.

[Fran]

Me too.

[Ria]

Sounds like an old movie.

[Fran]

Old timey. Sounds ruffly. You know what I mean? Sounds a little muffled.

[Ria]

Some old voices.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Ria]

Mary Catherine, Mary Frances. Mary. Who the hell are they? A lot of Mary's.

[Fran]

Some. Some firm they're working at.

[Hunter or Holland]

Some firm or some stock brokerage, something.

[Ria]

No clue.

[Fran]

Yeah, I am really blanking here.

[Noah]

Three seconds.

[Ria]

Okay, Rep is at Tiffany's.

[Fran]

Final answer.

[Noah]

Correct.

[Hunter or Holland]

It sound like an old Christmas movie.

[Fran]

It does.

[Noah]

I can't.

[Hunter or Holland]

I can't think of an old Christmas movie. The only movie coming to mind is national.

[Fran]

Well, it's in.

[Hunter or Holland]

It seems like it's in New York City. I know, like Miracle and 34th Street. But that's not a big family.

Throw it out there.

[Fran]

Okay.

[Hunter or Holland]

Miracle on 34th Street.

[Noah]

Incorrect. Pretty Woman. Oh, shopping.

[Fran]

You're never gonna believe me. I swear, you're never gonna believe me.

I mean, yeah, I have to be less scared of. Of being wrong.

[Noah]

But the funny thing is, you were wrong anyway.

[Fran]

I don't care about being. I don't care about being wrong. I don't want to let Fran down. That's what it is.

[Ria]

They care less.

[Fran]

It's not me being. I'm like, I don't want to. I don't want to let Fran down.

[Ria]

That movie sounded a lot older than the 90s.

[Hunter or Holland]

Agreed.

[Noah]

Okay, it is still tied up at 2. And this is question number 11 to Hunter and Holland. Shout out Amy from Atlanta. Again, what actors play the couple who is planning to adopt. Adopt Juno's baby in Juno.

[Hunter or Holland]

Oh, Jennifer Garner. And is it Jason Bateman?

[Fran]

I think. I think it is.

[Hunter or Holland]

That's his name, right?

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Hunter or Holland]

Okay, we're gonna go. Jennifer Garner and Jason Bateman. Final answer.

[Noah]

Correct.

[Fran]

Nailed it. Crushed it.

[Ria]

I feel like you needed a little more enthusiasm on that.

[Chloe Tucker Cain]

Correct. That was a really good one.

[Fran]

That was a good point call.

[Noah]

All right.

[Chloe Tucker Cain]

Correct.

[Ria]

I've really only seen. I don't think I've seen Juno since it came out.

[Hunter or Holland]

It's been a minute.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Noah]

Okay. Three, two.

[Fran]

When Juno came out, I felt like it was inappropriate for me to watch. Fair. Does that make sense?

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Fran]

Although I watched many inappropriate things at that age. In school, you know, at school, in my own time with my parents.

[Ria]

They, you know, that was really. The one thing was. That was hammered into us at the.

[Chloe Tucker Cain]

You know, Catholic schools.

[Fran]

I didn't listen.

That didn't need to be said. All right, anyways.

[Noah]

All right. Three, two. Hunter and Holland, question number 12. To Ria and Fran, shout out Megan from Miami. What are the three Summer I Turn Pretty books called? In order.

[Fran]

The sus. Right?

[Hunter or Holland]

Yeah.

[Ria]

The Summer I Turned Pretty one.

[Fran]

The Summer I Turned Pretty Two.

Shit.

[Ria]

And I listened to all the fucking. The audiobooks. The summer.

What the hell are they all called?

[Fran]

It's escaping me. I didn't read the first, first, and second, and I only read the second half of the third.

[Ria]

This.

[Chloe Tucker Cain]

I'm like.

[Ria]

I'm like. The summer we fell apart. The summer we got together.

[Hunter or Holland]

Okay. It's the summer I turn pretty. It's not summer without you. And we'll always have summer.

[Fran]

You're on fire.

Yeah.

[Noah]

Final answer.

[Fran]

Yes.

[Noah]

Correct.

[Fran]

Snap claws. Snap claws. We'll always have summer.

[Ria]

Summer.

[Fran]

Yeah. We'll always have summer. That was such a good pool. Yeah.

[Noah]

All right, four, two, Hunter and Holland. Question number 13. To them, shout out Claire from Fargo, North Dakota.

[Fran]

If I would have stuck with my gut, we'd be 44.

[Justin Sylvester]

Yeah.

[Noah]

On. That's a Raven. What was the name of Raven's fashion label in the later seasons?

[Fran]

Oh.

[Hunter or Holland]

Is it hagran minute? I think so.

Why do I think it's that?

[Noah]

So raven.

[Fran]

I know.

[Noah]

15 seconds.

[Hunter or Holland]

You want to just go with us?

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Hunter or Holland]

You can say, okay, that's a Raven. Final answer incorrect.

[Fran]

I don't know. But I do. I do remember really loving these episodes because she was. Was she fighting with, like, the knockoff version of Dolce and Gabbana?

[Ria]

Yeah. I just remember she wore her. Donna Gabbana.

[Fran]

Donna Gabbana.

[Ria]

That's the only thing I remember about the fact I don't remember what her label was called.

[Fran]

Yeah.

Raven. Revelation.

[Ria]

I have no clue. I've actually got zero questions.

[Fran]

Yeah. Revelation.

[Noah]

Incorrect. Ravenous Fashions.

[Ria]

Ravenous Fashion.

[Fran]

It's not a great name.

[Chloe Tucker Cain]

Raven.

[Fran]

No.

[Ria]

And you know what? None of us remembered it.

[Fran]

So was it Ravenous or was it. Well, it's a play on Ravenous.

[Noah]

Yeah.

[Fran]

Ravenous.

[Chloe Tucker Cain]

Yeah.

[Noah]

Okay. Four, two, Hunter, Holland. Ran Fernanda. Have to get the final two, right?

[Hunter or Holland]

Yep.

[Noah]

Question number 14 to them.

[Fran]

Come on, don't knock us just yet.

[Noah]

Shout out Ariana from New York City. In the movie Ratatouille, what does Linguini call Remy?

[Fran]

Come on, Fran.

[Ria]

What does Linguini call Remy?

[Fran]

You little rat.

[Ria]

Little chef.

[Hunter or Holland]

Sous chef.

[Ria]

Final answer.

[Noah]

Correct.

[Fran]

Nice.

[Ria]

That felt like a trick question.

[Fran]

All right, let's hope Hunter and Holland don't get this one right. Even though you know, we want to root for you, but at the same time, we want to work win.

[Noah]

Okay? Because you Guys love lyrics so much. We're going to do.

[Ria]

Oh, my God, another one. A third lyric. Question of the game.

[Fran]

Damn. Didn't know this was Fill in the lyrics.

[Chloe Tucker Cain]

Seriously. What was that show called?

[Ria]

I think it was called, like, Guess the Water. Fill in the Ly. It might have been called Fill in the lyrics.

[Fran]

Whose line?

[Ria]

Yeah, whose line is Anyway. But songs.

[Noah]

Okay, four, three.

[Ria]

I actually did like that.

[Noah]

So Holland, this is to them for the win Shadow episode from Hoboken. Finish this lyric from the Lizzie McGuire opening song. Sometimes we make it and sometimes we fake it.

[Hunter or Holland]

I can only think of the ending.

And sometimes, like, I feel like it's like, sometimes we fake every.

[Fran]

No, no, that's.

[Hunter or Holland]

That's the end.

[Justin Sylvester]

That's the ending.

[Noah]

10 seconds.

[Chloe Tucker Cain]

I don't know.

[Hunter or Holland]

I don't know.

[Fran]

It's like five.

[Hunter or Holland]

Pass. We don't know.

[Ria]

I mean, sometimes we make it Sometimes.

[Fran]

We fake it.

[Ria]

Figure it out in the what's that? What's that in between line. Sometimes we make it, Sometimes we fake.

[Fran]

It I don't know at all.

[Ria]

Harder and harder it gets harder and harder each and every day but we'll.

[Fran]

Figure it out Figure it out anyway Incorrect.

[Noah]

Oh, you had half of it. It's. But we get one step closer each and every day.

[Ria]

Oh, each and every day. But we get one step closer each and every day.

[Chloe Tucker Cain]

Dang it.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Noah]

You guys won.

[Fran]

Oh, congratulations.

[Ria]

That was such a one that I was like.

[Fran]

So close. So congratulations.

[Ria]

You guys serve, guys.

[Fran]

You beat the crap out of us and you get shirts that say you beat us. So more chicks in the office. Merch coming your way to match those lovely sweatshirts. But you guys absolutely crushed it. So thank you so much for playing with us and thank you for coming to our show. I hope you can make it to one next time. We really appreciate it. Thank you, guys.

[Ria]

Thanks, guys.

[Hunter or Holland]

Thanks for having us.

[Fran]

Bye. Bye.

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[Fran]

Listener, first time caller.

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[Fran]

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