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Chase Stokes & Kelsea Ballerini Split, Emmys Roundup + RHOSLC's Lisa Barlow Interview
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Fran
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Brianne
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Jake
Yeah, chicks in the office Long time.
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Brianne
Listener, first time caller.
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Jake
Look at the charts who does it the best two chicks getting paid in reality checks you can find them at the gym it's not even a flex last minute red carpet flew them out on the jet yeah they're who you want to be they're always on your screen Two queens and they might be spilling royalty A lot of topics that are popping here to get into I know a show that you probably weren't who turn the heat up Turn the beat up record the pod made a bag put their feet up the ones that leave no crumbs when they clean up who's the pod that they all want to meet up? Who turned the heat up Turn the beat up record the pod made a bag put their feet up the ones that leave no crumbs when they clean up who's the pod that they all want to meet up?
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Fran
What's up everyone?
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Brianne
It's Chicks in the Office with Brianne Fran giving you that Friday energy on a Monday. Happy Monday Monday everybody. Just a quick reminder before we get into the rest of the show. You do not want to miss out on getting those tickets to the Best show on Earth Tour. We cannot wait to see you there. Got tons of messages from all you girls that we cannot wait to meet and see at the shows. We are headed to Washington D.C. october 23, Milwaukee, October 28, Chicago, October 30, September, Cincinnati, November 8 and Philadelphia, December 9. We cannot wait to see you guys there. Do not miss out on getting tickets. These shows are going to be fantastic. They're going to be the best shows on Earth because that's what we bring to the damn table. We're going to have loads of fun we can't wait to see you guys there. So make sure you buy those tickets. And when you buy those tickets, tag us, post on your story, tag us. Let us know that we're going to be seeing your beautiful faces. All right, how we doing? Francesca, you're still in the Vineyard and. And we're over here in New York City. How you doing?
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Fran
Yes, great. I want to say extra, extra pushy to my Philly people to make sure we see you guys at our show, our holiday show. It's going to be a massive show. Really excited for it. I mean, if things keep going the way it's going, the, you know, Eagles are in a good rhythm right now. It's going to be early December when we feel in the love. Hopefully we keep it going. So I'm excited for that. But I am still up in the Vineyard. It was a great weekend. One of the, one of the best in a while. Just really could chill out. The weather was stunning.
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Brianne
Just like stunning.
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Fran
Oh, my God, perfect. Lots of dog time. Got Lola and Olive, like a lot of swimming and walking and great food. And my dad made some great, great meal last night and we went out to dinner and we're. Joe and I are celebrating our. We're really celebrating for like the next two weeks, to be quite honest, because it's like our anniversary, my birthday, his birthday, are all at the same time. But we are up on the Vineyard, obviously. This is where we got married last year. So being in the same place, we're like, oh, we'll celebrate. So we went out to dinner that just the two of us, Saturday night is like an early anniversary celebration. Then we got birthday and then 21st is our actually actual anniversary, Joe's birthday. So September is a busy, A busy month. Lots of celebrating and fun with that, but it was really, really lovely. That's all. I, you know, don't have too much to say about it because it was.
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Brianne
Just that nice celebrations all around. September is a great month for you guys. Celebrations all around sounds fantastic.
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Fran
Exactly. But I really want to hear about you two because you had a. What seems to be quite the weekend together.
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Brianne
Now, my little bro, you have a lot of memories to be made this past weekend. We, you know, we made up after our debacle on the last episode where he continuously just ignores everything I say. But we're moving, we're moving past it because we danced our asses off Thursday night. We went to the Capezio flagship store in Times Square where Monica there taught us how to do a hip hop dance. It Was about, like, an hour. So honestly, for, like, really only having about an hour, I would say we did a good job learning that dance. That was no beginner hip hop. Okay. There was some tricky little footwork in there. And I would say, you know what, Noah? I was impressed, and I think that we did a good. If we had multiple days, you know.
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Noah
Yeah. If this was Dancing with the Star.
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Brianne
If this was Dancing with the Stars, by the end of the week, you know, by the end of the. The week of rehearsing, we'd fucking crush it.
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Noah
You know, I was, like, messing up these moves and just trying to remember them, and I'd be like, how much longer? How many more seconds of this dance do we have? And we were only like five seconds in at a 20. I'm like, I don't think I'm gonna get this.
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Brianne
And you know what? You pulled it off, though. And we did have a great time. I will say we were, like, profusely sweating at one point.
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Fran
It was.
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Brianne
We were like, ripping sweat.
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Noah
I want to wear the. We want to wear the hoodies because that's, like, the cool hip hop thing to do. But when we were really in, like, the part of the practicing and learning, we had to take them off.
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Brianne
Yeah. Had to put the hair up.
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Noah
And that's why I was like, wait, are we doing. Are we now? Like, if we get it, we're using this as a take. And you're like, yeah. I'm like, okay, I'm putting the hoodie back.
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Brianne
Yeah. Needed the hoodie.
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Fran
How long do you guys think you had to. Really.
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Brianne
An hour?
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Fran
Like, it was just one hour.
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Brianne
Like, really? No, because we started. We didn't start till, like, 8:30. 8:40. And we finished around 9:40, so. So it was really only an hour, which I think if we had more time or more days, we would crush it. Like, I think we all know the dance by now. If we all just practice in our own time and then throw it together one more time, we could really crush it.
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Fran
You guys looked for. For one hour. I was very impressed, I have to say. And I. I even said even. Even with you, Noah. I was pretty impressed for that level of choreography because she did not take it easy on you guys. Like, I really like that. That was a lot. Ria, you crushed it. But, like, I knew you were going to crush it. I had all the confidence in you anyway. And I feel like the guys really tried. Tried their best between. Between Matt and Noah. Who do you think struggled with it? Struggled learning it more?
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Brianne
No, I mean, yeah, and I'm not. I'm not. Just. I would be honest and say there was. Matt. I know there was one part where Noah, like, really just could not get it. And we. And honestly, we spent a good chunk of our time.
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Noah
Yeah.
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Brianne
On this one part, there was, like.
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Noah
There was a jumping part, and for some reason, I was just jumping, like, really far back.
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Brianne
And then also, he couldn't, like, figure out where to put his feet. And we spent a good chunk of time on that where I was like, all right, let's just move on. And honestly, just pretend like you know what you're doing. No one's gonna pick up on the fact that you don't, you know, like, you don't gotta get it down pat. We're all doing the video together because it was taking up a good. And I was like, all right, but fair enough. Like, it was a confusing move. It was not beginner hip hop, in my opinion, so. But yeah, but it was a lot of fun.
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Noah
They, like, really, like, they did. They had. They printed out the list, like, giant frame. They had, like, a thing that said, like, welcome, Ria, Noah.
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Brianne
It was a big thing. There was a charcuterie board, cookies.
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Noah
And the cookies had, like, the number eight, like, candle kind of things. And then they had, like, 30 plates.
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Brianne
Yeah, they had, like, happy birthday. No, like, it was really. They did such a nice job. It was really well done for Noah. I was like, this is so nice.
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Noah
Marty and I went to Applebee's right before to loosen up.
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Brianne
Yeah, they had a couple. Noah and I had a drink here at the studio while we were just watching. While we were watching music videos of people dancing specifically Hot In Here by Nelly. Now, that wouldn't have been my first choice of song. I requested five different songs before we got to that one, before I learned that Noah just really wanted a basic song. So then we got to Hot In Here by Nelly, which, you know, it's a classic. It's. It's a little basic, but, you know, it hits every time. And we thought since it was a little slower, that the dance moves would be slower. No, that wasn't the case. So we had one drink here, and then we went. And Matt was working before that, so he couldn't have a drink with us. So then we got there, and Noah was like, you didn't have. Should we have more drinks?
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Noah
Whatever.
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Brianne
And then I was like, you guys go to. You guys do your thing. Like, I don't want to be. I want to focus. No shock that I was taking it very Seriously. And was like, I don't want to have too many drinks. I want to learn the dance. So we had a lot of fun, though. I like, I really think that, honestly, if you haven't seen the video, go watch it. It's collab between Noah, I, me, Noah and Matt. The reason we can't collab with chicks in the office on that video is because of music.
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Noah
Yeah.
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Brianne
Because people were like, where's the big.
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Noah
People were asking me about my own post too. They were like, what's the. No collab. And I'm like, it's the me can't.
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Brianne
Because of the music. So. But we can collab on our personals. So we did that. So go watch it if you missed it. But I don't think. I don't think you missed it. Cuz, my gosh, the engagement on that video said, we gotta dance every month. We gotta do a dance all the time.
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Fran
He. He almost didn't want to post the full video.
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Brianne
Yeah.
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Fran
Post the full video.
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Noah
Oh, well, no, that's not. That's not what I was saying. I wanted to post a full video. I just wanted to just get it all in one post with other pictures.
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Brianne
No, no, you gotta post that shit.
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Fran
Look.
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Brianne
Look at that reel. You know.
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Fran
That was definitely. That was definitely the right call. I got multiple texts and messages from people after the video came out that said, thank God you didn't try to do that with them. And I said, you're so right. You're so right.
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Brianne
Yeah, this was a hard no from you. You were like.
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Fran
It was. It was. You know, you got to know your limits. And what you would have thought.
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Noah
I would have thought that I would have said the same thing.
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Brianne
You never know.
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Fran
Well, once again, you're less. Noah, you know, you are pushing yourself. Maybe if there was. If it was a list of my own, that's fine. Maybe I would. I would try it. Not at that. I just wouldn't do it. I could not. I actually could not do it.
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Noah
But you want to be on Dancing with the Stars.
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Fran
I never said I want to be on Dancing with the Stars. I would like to. I normally clarify that I would actually prefer to host Dancing with the Stars if it was offered to me. I would certainly not say no, but I would be an early exit and, you know, I would need like a week one. I don't know, something where. Something where I'm just propped up the whole time, you know, where he could just kind of carry me around.
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Noah
I do feel like hip hop is, like, pretty tough.
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Brianne
I would Love to be on dance, like actually dancing. I might start going to just. There's these hip hop workout classes near me. I might start going once a week. I just, I love the, you know, like, I love a little outlet, a hobby, you know, like that where it's like, you know, I love to dance. Why not?
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Fran
You know, it doesn't look like there's a lot of fun dancing classes.
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Brianne
Yeah, no one's stopping me from doing that. So who knows, maybe we'll dance together more often. But then, you know, lovely weekend as well. Friday, hung out with my girls, Emma and Julie. From Comments by Celebs. If you know them, you love them. They are the absolute best. We had just a great day together. They came to Jersey City and it was so funny because they would like never spend time at Jersey City or Hoboken. And I took them around both Hoboken and Jersey City and they were like, oh my God. Like, we feel like we're in a whole new world. Like we had no idea any of this existed. It was, it was a lot of fun.
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Fran
Yep.
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Brianne
Which was great. And then Saturday, Noah again, we all went to dinner and we went out after and yeah, it was a great time. We.
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Noah
I was hoping they'd play hot in.
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Brianne
Here at the club.
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Noah
So.
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Brianne
Yeah, they didn't shut off the dance. Yeah. But we were dancing our hearts out again at the club. So Saturday night was loads of fun. We had great food, dancing and it was a late night for your girl, you know, like, I don't do that often anymore. A late night like that. Like 4 or 5 in the morning. Like, you know, it's a lot on the body and you did stay there.
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Noah
Later than I would have thought you would.
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Brianne
Yeah, yeah. We didn't get home till like 4 in the morning. And I said, well, dang, I gotta get some Burger King now. And it literally didn't leave my mind. I said, I, like, I literally have to get Burger King, you know, it just wouldn't leave. And why Burger King? I just couldn't stop thinking about that original chicken sandwich. This sounds like an ad. It's not. I think that the original chicken sandwich on that menu is one of my favorite fast food menu items. It is. It is spectacular. It's really good. It is. It is spectacular.
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Noah
I feel like that's never in the chicken sandwich.
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Brianne
And you know who always brings it up? I do, because it's not brought up really enough. So I just wouldn't leave my mind. I said, I have to have this. Didn't go to Sleep till after five. And you know, my day was wasted on Sunday because I'm fricking Saturday night, you know. But it was a lot of fun. It was worth it. It was friggin worth it. We had a blast.
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Fran
That sounds amazing. And it definitely did. You're like, you know. And I just couldn't stop dreaming about that number seven combo with the. I just.
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Brianne
The original chicken sandwich just wouldn't leave my brain and I had to have it.
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Fran
It was a must.
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Brianne
It was a must. And Sunday was, you know, football's on. Yeah, I get my naps in that sort of thing.
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Fran
Yeah, yeah, exactly.
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Brianne
I did watch the. The new Miranda Cosgrove movie, the Wrong Paris. You would love it. I'll talk about the weekly watch report. Sorry, skipped ahead. Wow.
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Fran
I'm. I'm excited to hear about it, friend. Wait, I'm gonna. I'm gonna. Is some. Is anybody. Is anybody watch. Like, is it. It be nice if somebody. Anybody watching my dog. I'm just seeing my dog walk around the yard on her own through the window. Okay. Dog secured.
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Brianne
Dog secured.
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Fran
Dog. Dog secured.
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Brianne
I got her.
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Fran
So much cute little merchandise from the black dog. I mean, you can only imagine. Come here. Look at her. Cute little rainbow.
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Brianne
That's so cute.
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Fran
That's perfect.
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Brianne
It has little.
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Fran
Is rainbow and it has little pea signs on it.
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Brianne
Oh, that is perfect.
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Lisa Barlow
Oh, my gosh.
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Fran
I know.
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Brianne
So cute.
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Fran
Thank you. I know. I was like, I wanted to go in and buy everything because now I'm like, like, that's just you. But she has. We have so much fun up here. But. Yeah. First time watching a. It sounds silly because she's obviously a dog, but first time having her in the room with us, all of us watching an Eagles game, which can be a lot because there's yelling. There's yelling, there's jumping, there's screaming there. She was like, what is happening?
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Brianne
She's a lot going on.
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Fran
Exactly. But no, Sunday was. Sunday was great. The. The eagles played at 4. 25. Close one. I appreciate you texting me.
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Brianne
I did. I. I won't. We won't say the text out loud, but I did text Fran.
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Fran
Yeah, it was after that. After that. After that interception.
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Brianne
Yeah. It included some. Some Eagle emojis and some. And some clown faces.
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Lisa Barlow
Yeah.
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Fran
Hey, your teams keep winning. Another great game for Buffalo.
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Brianne
Oh, my God. I was nervous about my quarterback.
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Fran
Wait, I didn't know. His face smashed.
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Brianne
I didn't know. On Sunday I was like, that's my quarterback. That's my quarterback. And I was like, you Know what? Like, it's so fun saying that. And. And Matt was like, oh, like Terrell Owens. And I was like, what do you mean? Like, that's. I thought that was just something people say about their quarterback, like about their team. Like, that's my quarterback. He was like, no, it's from a press conference that Terrell Owens did.
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Fran
Like.
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Brianne
And he starts crying like, that's my quarterback. I was like, I had no idea. I thought people just said, that's my quarterback. Like, you know, for their team. I didn't know it came from that. I'm sure they said it regardless before that, but you learn something new every day. I also learned something else that I don't even know if I want to admit right now.
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Fran
Uh oh.
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Lisa Barlow
I.
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Brianne
And this is a judgment free zone.
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Fran
Judgment free.
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Brianne
You say that until like a judge. I didn't realize each network had a different NFL song.
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Fran
That's.
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Brianne
I've heard all different. I've heard them all. I told Matt I thought it was based on mood of the game of which one they played. Like, I didn't realize which network. Like, I'm not looking which network the game's.
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Fran
Yeah.
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Brianne
You know what I mean?
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Fran
I think that is actually completely fair because it's something where you could be like, every network has like five songs that they could play at any point.
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Brianne
Yes.
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Fran
But really it's. I thought it was just like NFL on CBS has that.
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Brianne
You know, I thought it was like the time of day, mood of the game. Which one are we going with? And. And not the case.
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Noah
You have a favorite.
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Brianne
Not off the top of my head. I would have to like, look, you know, next to each one and then listen, do you guys have a favorite?
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Fran
I do think that. I think NFL. I do like the NFL and cbs.
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Noah
Yeah.
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Fran
Is. I think probably. Yeah.
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Noah
Wait, that's a da da, da da.
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Brianne
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm going to have to do like study up again and I'll let you guys know the next time. But yeah, it felt good to get that off my chest this weekend.
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Fran
Yeah. But Josh Allen really did. He got his nose smashed. That's got to be worst case scenario. Like you coming home to Haley. She's like, your face.
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Brianne
No, I know, but like it's like cute and rugged. You know what I mean? Care of him and all that. Yeah.
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Noah
His nose look pretty bad.
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Fran
It looks really.
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Brianne
Sure. She loves him regardless and takes care of him. He's. He's out there, you know what I mean, carrying the team. Absolutely. Let the guy be. Get off his back. It's my quarterback. That's my quarterback.
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Noah
You know who he's talking about. Oh, quiz.
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Brianne
I forget. And you know, Matt told me in the video. Remind me.
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Noah
Tony Romo.
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Brianne
Yes, yes, yes, yes. Yes. Yep, got it. All right, moving on. Enough. Enough of that. Anyways, moving on into the rest of the show. We got some topics cover the Emmys were Sunday night. Chase Stokes and Kelsey Ballerini split out of nowhere. Nobody saw that coming after his fake ass birthday post the day before.
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Fran
Now I'm just kidding.
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Brianne
I'm just kidding. You know, it is confusing though. Anyways, we also have the Lisa Barlow interview. Honestly, could have talked to Lisa for hours.
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Fran
Lisa is one of one. Truly. I just, she is really like such a top tier housewife for me.
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Brianne
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Fran
So we 12.
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Brianne
12 Photos.
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Fran
12 Photos. 12 Photos is a lot for someone that's like in the midst of a breakup, 1000%.
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Brianne
And then on Sunday, they thought that this was going to get all wrapped up in the Emmys, you know, talk.
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Fran
That I think it was the right time to dump it.
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Brianne
Yeah, they think. They thought they were going to bury it. They didn't. Because people are like, what the fuck happened? In the middle of that, they announced, you know, they didn't announce it, but it was. It was announced that they split after three years together. I think people are just like, what the hell happened? Because you post for her birthday and then all of a sudden you guys are split. Did you break up a day after her birthday and then all of a sudden it's announced? Or were you broken up when you posted the birthday post? Which would be quite strange. And, you know, but I guess sometimes you gotta do what you gotta do if you don't want people to know yet. And they're like, yeah, I don't understand that.
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Fran
Really.
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Brianne
Cause if they're broken up and you write that and you put all those pictures, I don't understand it. But maybe they're like, oh, it's her birthday. People are gonna be questioning. We don't want it to come out. So I'll just throw this post up. Which I guess I don't understand, but, you know, the Internet could be a, you know, a wild place in that sense where they're like, it's her birthday. He didn't post. They don't want people to know yet. Maybe they're still hashing it out. Maybe it's undecided if they're breaking up or not. So he still posted. That could be the case. But then it comes out that they're. They're split. Neither of them have posted anything about the breakup, but their reps have confirmed that they broke up.
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Fran
Yeah. Which is how you know, like, you want it out there. Like, Kelsey's rep is in putting out the statement to people. Unless Kelsey is like, gives the okay that they're gonna say that they're. That they're broken up. So I don't know. I think that they've kind of been on the rocks for a while and have tried to keep it on the down low. I've seen, I want to say, like, at least this summer, like, fairly recently, I saw a lot of tick tocks of people thinking that maybe they had split up just solely from, oh, we haven't really seen them together as much. And then like on social media, there was little bits and pieces of them in other posts and things that they were like, oh, well, here they were. They're together here, it's there. So who knows? It could have been something like that. And social media is so weird for celebrities where it's like, even if they're. Even if they know that maybe they're on the rocks right now, they don't want the outside world to know that. So it's like, oh, put the happy birthday post up just in case we work things out. And then no one will question it because it'll just be normal. The fact that it was literally two days ago is kind of wild, right? And it's like, oh, you didn't see the writing on the wall then? And of course, if he didn't post for her birthday, I think everyone would have been like, oh, well, they broke up, right? Which is what we're just confirming now anyway. But a source told people there are two adults who gave it their all and tried to do everything they could to make it work, but ultimately couldn't. It happens.
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Brianne
It's true. I mean, that's as true as it gets. It does happen. But I think that you're right when it comes to social media with, like, Hollywood couples and stuff, it's like they could have been taking a break. They could have and then decided, okay, you know, they're taking a break, but we might get back together. So I'll post it. And then they decide, okay, we're actually not getting back together. We're just gonna end this. So, you know, sad to see love them together as a couple.
- [25:19]
Fran
I think I really, I'm sad for them.
- [25:21]
Brianne
We love seeing the behind the scenes of, you know, I. I root for. For Kelsea Ballerini to find the one for her because, you know, she had that, you know, that bad relationship before started dating Chase. Things were fantastic, and who knows where she may end up next. I saw, you know, like, hey, take some time for yourself. Don't just jump right into a new relationship. But I already saw people shipping her and Joe Jonas together.
- [25:50]
Fran
I.
- [25:51]
Brianne
And I was like, you know what?
- [25:54]
Fran
I knew that was what you're gonna say.
- [25:56]
Brianne
I already saw it.
- [25:57]
Fran
And I was like, we're not jumping that at all. I have not seen that at all. And I was like, she's gonna say Joe Jonas.
- [26:02]
Brianne
It's just what I've seen. Like, obviously when somebody just breaks up, like, she's clearly still gonna be or whatever happened. Maybe not. Maybe they've been, you know, on the rocks for a while. So she could not be upset, but whatever. I saw people already being like, she did pop out the Jonas Brothers, you know, maybe her and Joe Jonas, which you don't want to automatically start being like d saying like, you know, let her have her time. And whenever she wants to get back out there, whenever Chase wants to get back out there, they do their thing. It seems like this just happened. So we can't start being like, go Jake, Joe Jonas right now, you know, yeah, yeah, we can't have that happen. If they all. They all of a sudden start having a fling, that's fine. But we can't be rooting for that right away.
- [26:45]
Fran
Right? There's everyone. I feel like everybody's just rooting for Kelsey Keeper. Options open and absolutely. Have fun. Because it did feel like. Not that it was like a right away, but the Chase relationship seemed to get pretty serious pretty quickly. And that just does. I mean, it is sad. It sucks when this happens. It sucks when it doesn't work out. And they clearly tried. I really thought that they were such a great, really such a great pairing. And it was, it was very sad to see these news and to see the news and I definitely was one that, like, when I saw these rumors on TikTok that they had, like, broken up or that they were on the rocks, whenever I was like, no, like, they'll make it work. They'll make it work. Or I just thought it was kind of like TikTok being tick tock. But a lot of times when there's smoke, there's fire. So it's over for these two. And that. That's sad. That's sad.
- [27:38]
Brianne
It is over for these two. Did you see Nina Dobrev? She posted a TikTok just a couple of days before the split was announced. And it was something about, like, sound was like, guy always has other women or whatever. So people were speculating that Shaun White may have cheated, but then reps came out and said there was no cheating that happened in their relationship. But people are still speculating because there was a comment that got a ton of likes on, you know, Dobrev's page that Sean was seen out at the bar with a couple girls. And then Shaun White's friend threatened the girl to, like, put her phone away and not take pictures. And the girl was like, I was not taking pictures. So a lot of speculation there too.
- [28:22]
Fran
That's very interesting. Yeah, I saw, I saw the tiktoks and then I've seen girls being like, nina, do. Nina's in her Catherine Pierce era, like, she's about to just, like, pop up. It's like basically just equating her to a character on the Vampire Diaries, which was. Which did kind of make me laugh for a second. Just as like, you know, that's not a real person, but.
- [28:43]
Brianne
Yeah, but did you see that Nina came out and spoke about the pay disparity with the Vampire Diaries, which is absolute bullshit and so insane that they would not pay her the same as her male counterparts. And then also the fact that she was playing, like four characters at once. It wasn't like she was. And by the way, she deserves to get paid the same or more anyway for the part that she was playing. She was the main character. I know people like to say that, you know, they were the main characters, but she was the main character. And then on top of that, she played like, three other characters. So she's out there playing four different characters on one show and can't get paid. So she. She left. I mean, the fact that they went through such lengths to not pay her what she deserved is so insane. Like, it's just crazy. It really is.
- [29:34]
Fran
It really is. And at the time, like, when I was watching it, you don't realize and you don't really know all the. The stories. And it's so true with so many other shows that that becomes such a big factor because people freak out when, like, a character is killed off or something happens where you're like, oh, my God, that just derailed the storyline completely that you were rooting for. But in reality, maybe there's these contract negotiations, they go poorly. The fact that she also wanted to come back for, like, multiple episodes for the final season, which would have been amazing, and they still wouldn't pay her. It's like, okay, now we're insane. This show is ending. We all know it's ending. At least. It's like. And you know, the fans are going to be so upset. This is what the fans would want. And the way. And even like, you know, Julie Pleck, the way that she would like to finish the story is to have her involved. I think, you know, she had to get involved to be like, go to the executives and be like, we need. You need to pay her. We need her for, like, at least an episode for her to come back and they still, like, wouldn't pay her what she deserved to come back and do, like, multiple episodes to finish out the series is crazy because to think of, like, what we could have gotten if they did that is just cruel. Like, we could have really, it would, could have been a whole different scenario, but instead we got freaking cheap cheapos. And they wouldn't pay Nina Dobra for literally her show.
- [31:05]
Brianne
It's such bullshit. It is so insane reading that. It was so disgusting. I'm like, damn. Like, you never know what these, these actors or actresses really are going through behind the scenes with their contracts. And like you said, like, when people leave a show and you're like, I mean, what the hell? And people were mad at her at the time too, being like she left the show and it's like, whoa, this is what was happening behind the scenes. So good for her for speaking about it now. But that sucks that that was happening. Like, that is just so, so shitty. While we're on the topic of television shows, the Emmys were Sunday night. We had some good winners out there, some shocking losses as well. The White Lotus went home with zero awards. People were, you know, stunned by this because it had the, you know, the world in a chokehold for like seven weeks straight. And they left with nothing. But a lot of other great shows were rewarded. A lot of great actors were rewarded. Gene Smart and Hannah Einbinder both won for Hacks. I am such a hack, Stan. So I was so happy for the two of them.
- [32:16]
Noah
I gotta watch a show.
- [32:17]
Brianne
You have, but you've never watched Hacks?
- [32:19]
Noah
No.
- [32:20]
Brianne
Oh, Hacks is fantastic. They also announced that the fifth season will be their fifth and final season. And I'm okay with that. Let's wrap it up. But Hacks is, like, one of my favorites. And I'm so happy for the two of them. So deserved, like, just amazing. On top of that reality competition program, the Traders won. And that's how, you know, we got good shit with the Traders going on, because people were pumped about that as well. The studio won comedy series, and the studio was just fantastic. I cannot, I hope that that comes back. I think it will. I think the studio will be a show that becomes like a long standing show. I think it'll have many, many seasons.
- [33:01]
Noah
I was surprised that they weren't doing the whole like, thank you, Sal Saperstein bit in their speeches. But is it because that was Golden Globes in the show? I can't remember it was Golden Globes. So maybe they were like, we'll save it for the Golden Globes.
- [33:13]
Brianne
Yeah, I guess you never know. I mean, that would have been funny. But maybe they're. Maybe they're saving it. The Pit won for drama series and Noah Weil won for lead actor in a drama Series which we all love the Pit. You know, it was.
- [33:27]
Fran
It was a.
- [33:28]
Brianne
It was a good night for the TV shows that we enjoy.
- [33:32]
Fran
Yeah, really was. I really was. I was pumped for Noah Wylie. I thought that was so great that he won. And I feel like. And same with Katherine Lanasa as well for. For the pitch. She's fantastic in it. Maybe really excited for another season. Love seeing that celebrated. But you know what? Really? And. And Severance as well.
- [33:56]
Brianne
Severance as well. One lead actress and supporting actor.
- [34:00]
Fran
Yes. Both amazing. I love that Brit did the. On her accepted speech. In her hand, it wrote, like, on the back side of it. It was written let me out on the back side of it. So people were freaking out because they were like, oh, that's such a good call to the. Any outy thing. Like, she's accepting the speech, but it's literally like, let me out on the back of the. On the back of the page. And yeah, they. They. Severance was really a good season, and I thought, I'm glad she won for it, too, because she really is so, so good. And I think so. You know, I think Tramell Tillman as well was fantastic in Severance.
- [34:44]
Brianne
So I haven't watched. I mean, maybe I'll. Maybe I'll catch up at some point.
- [34:49]
Fran
You know what?
- [34:49]
Brianne
I feel like I'm out on it now. Like, I feel like I'm enjoying in.
- [34:52]
Noah
There's not that many episodes.
- [34:54]
Fran
You really can. You really can.
- [34:55]
Noah
I feel like I'm like, there's another season coming, so.
- [35:00]
Fran
Yeah, I mean, I only jumped in before this season. Like, I didn't watch before that.
- [35:04]
Brianne
Remember, Noah was, like, ripping it apart this past season, so it, like, didn't.
- [35:07]
Noah
Don't let me stop you. I'm in the minority.
- [35:10]
Fran
And also, yeah, like, a lot of times, no offense, Noah, like, when he really doesn't like something, I'm like, I. It makes me want to watch it more.
- [35:20]
Noah
Makes me want to like it more.
- [35:21]
Fran
Yo. I just think, like. And. And I. I don't know.
- [35:25]
Brianne
We have to tell for myself, I'll.
- [35:27]
Noah
Be the first to say that that finale of season two was unbelievable. Yeah, I just. I just. Throughout the whole season, I wasn't loving it as much, but.
- [35:35]
Brianne
Yeah.
- [35:35]
Fran
Yeah.
- [35:36]
Brianne
Kristin Miliotti also won for the Penguin, which was so good, and she was incredible. So that was amazing.
- [35:44]
Fran
I was so happy for her, and she was so excited, I think, that she was nominated across multiple award shows for this role. Right. And. And didn't get it and didn't win the award. So clearly she was ecstatic to win this one. I was so. She was so good in that. The one thing we didn't watch, at least you and I did not watch. I don't. I don't think you watched it. I know Noah watched it, but we didn't watch Adolescence. Yeah, they won a lot, too.
- [36:10]
Noah
That's a classic. Like, I. You knew that was gonna win. Like, when they do the one take thing, and, like, because each episode is one single take where you're like, they're gonna win for acting in this.
- [36:19]
Brianne
Right?
- [36:19]
Noah
I mean, he. That kid obviously deserved to.
- [36:22]
Brianne
Yeah.
- [36:22]
Fran
Like, he was so cute.
- [36:25]
Noah
He's cooler than me.
- [36:26]
Brianne
Yeah, it's so cool.
- [36:28]
Fran
That kid was so. And he was. Anytime, like, he's 15 and he's up. He's like, you know, three years ago, I was a no one. Three years ago you were 12.
- [36:37]
Noah
Did you see the video from the day before where his favorite actor in the whole world is Jake Gyllenhaal? And, like, him saying, like, in every interview, like, I just want to meet Jake Gyllenhaal. Like, blah, blah, blah going on and on. And they, like, set up this whole fake interview for him, like, leading up to the Emmys. It was just all fake. And then Jake Gyllenhaal just walked in the room, like, so fun.
- [36:54]
Brianne
Oh, that's so nice.
- [36:56]
Fran
It was. That was a really cute video. And he said that his friend. He had a friend that gave him, like, a little trinket. Like, it was a little lucky duck. Like, a little trinket. Before, I think before he won an Oscar, he said. And he got one made for him so that he could have it for the Emmys, which was really, really cute. And he was so fired up. And then he won, which was absolutely, absolutely adorable. I love seeing all those people celebrate with their families from. From adolescence. And yeah, that was another one that I remember Noah watching and being like, yeah, it was good, but, like.
- [37:33]
Noah
No, I guess I said it was really good. I just said it was, like, incredibly depressing.
- [37:38]
Brianne
Yeah, you did 1,000%.
- [37:39]
Noah
You were like, it's really heavy.
- [37:42]
Fran
Yeah, right. Which is why when you said that, I was like, oh, I don't know if I want to. If I want to do that, which is fair, but it's only four epis.
- [37:49]
Noah
So I would say, like, it's worth the watch, but just know it. Knowing that it's.
- [37:52]
Fran
Yeah, it took. It took. It took a lot of awards. They had these big. They had a Law and Order moment in the show. They had a Gilmore Girls moment in the show. We're getting close, Rhea. We're getting close to the time where I think you should start Gilmore Girls.
- [38:06]
Brianne
Well, I think I'm going to start Gilmore Girls. We've not announced any of this and have not talked about on podcasts, but we are taking a, a very long flight somewhere soon. And I was thinking, well, man, I'm gonna have a lot of time to watch Gilmore Girls. Do you think bad idea or a good idea for that?
- [38:29]
Fran
I think good idea.
- [38:30]
Brianne
Good idea.
- [38:30]
Fran
I think good idea.
- [38:31]
Brianne
Because I was thinking to myself, I needed to pick a show.
- [38:34]
Fran
Yeah.
- [38:35]
Brianne
And I would say maybe start, start it so that I can get into it and then have more to watch.
- [38:41]
Fran
On the, like, start it at home so you can be cozy and like, enjoy that setting of starting it. And then you can, it is good. Then you can like continue to watch it as we, as we travel.
- [38:53]
Brianne
Right. Because I. Then I'll be locked in and I'll be like, wait, I need to watch. Yes.
- [38:56]
Fran
Yeah, exactly. What did you guys think of Nate Bargazi? Was.
- [39:02]
Noah
I actually really liked him.
- [39:03]
Fran
Yeah.
- [39:04]
Noah
As the host.
- [39:04]
Brianne
Yeah.
- [39:05]
Noah
And I don't know him that, that well.
- [39:07]
Brianne
Yeah.
- [39:08]
Fran
I, I, yeah.
- [39:10]
Brianne
Can say that I love his stand.
- [39:15]
Noah
Up because I really watched it.
- [39:16]
Brianne
I've tried to like, I wouldn't say I don't like it, but it's not like my favorite kind of stand up.
- [39:21]
Noah
The SNL is honestly the only reason I like have ever seen him.
- [39:24]
Brianne
Yeah. But people love him.
- [39:26]
Noah
I mean, that opening bit is always funny. They're like the SNL thing that they did. But I thought he was funny. The whole money thing was very funny to me.
- [39:33]
Brianne
Yeah.
- [39:34]
Fran
Yeah. I thought it was good to kind of have like one bit running the whole show. I felt like that kind of like keeps it connected, but at the same time, like towards the end, you, you kind of know it's a gimmick. Right. Like, you know, they're not, you know.
- [39:51]
Noah
He'S just gonna be like, donate a ton of money.
- [39:53]
Fran
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You know that it's obviously going to be kind of a, of a, a bit situation because you're like, oh, you're really not gonna. Because then at the same time, not that I am like, I don't really have that strong of an opinion on it, so. But it is funny. It is like the funny. Oh, people talk too long and it goes on. Haha. Like wrap it up. But at the same time, so much of the show, I'm like, let the people who win speak and maybe cut down on the presenters having bits that aren't funny.
- [40:28]
Brianne
I agree with that. I agree.
- [40:30]
Fran
You know, like, I get it. But at the same time, you have presenters going, two, three minutes, and you're like, all right, like, let's get to the award. And then they're. And then the person that wins runs up there and they're like, ah, thank you. I guess I need to be quick. And then they just, like, run away. And you're like, oh, like, that kind of sucks. They didn't get to really enjoy the full moment or maybe thank everybody that they wanted to thank. They just wanted a massive award. Like, at least let them have the time that they want to have the stage. Like, I think Jennifer Coolidge is hysterical, and she is so funny. And when she find. When she hit the. The punchline of her joke, it was very funny. But it was a little bit of a journey to get to it.
- [41:09]
Brianne
Yeah.
- [41:10]
Fran
That you're like, okay, this is going just a little. And some of them are really funny. Like, oh, Olive can hear her. Like, Ray Romano and Brad Garrett. That was very funny. Their back and forth was very funny. Sometimes it's great. And of course. And then sometimes it, like, lands flat, where even the presenter has to be like, oh, that one didn't. That one didn't. Like, the writers didn't hit that one. No.
- [41:35]
Brianne
Sometimes they. They're reading off the prompt and you're like, okay, moving on. Like, the.
- [41:41]
Fran
You know, so it's like I got. I got the whole joke of it, and it was funny and it made sense, and, you know, it was a continuing bit throughout the show. But at the same time, I feel like there's people that got up there that may never have this opportunity again, and they're like, oh, shit. I guess I have to be under 45 seconds, right?
- [42:00]
Brianne
No, I agree with that. Let's talk about a little bit of the fashion of the night. I thought Kristen Bell looked so good. That was a. That was a standout for me. Kristen Bell looked amazing. Who was a standout for you? I mean, I thought Malin Ackerman and Britney Snow. They also looked really good.
- [42:18]
Fran
Brittany Snow, pink dress.
- [42:21]
Brianne
I thought it was gorgeous.
- [42:23]
Fran
I loved Selena Gomez. I loved that red dress. I thought she looked stunning. And you know, and normally not my, like, I normally am. Like, a classic look, you know, is normally what I lean more towards. But, like, Jenna Ortegas, that's what I'm.
- [42:41]
Brianne
Looking at right now.
- [42:43]
Fran
So sick.
- [42:43]
Brianne
It was, like, so cool.
- [42:45]
Fran
It was so cool. I really, really love that. And I also Loved Lisa's. That dress was like a work of art. That pink dress, like, it looked like water, like flowing water. It was really. I thought that was stunning.
- [42:58]
Brianne
So good. Yeah. Jenna Ortega's, I mean, just. It was insane. It was so sick. So cool. I thought Megan Fahey looked stunning as well. I think she always looks stunning. I thought that the carpet was good. I. I thought, you know, nothing. I didn't see any and go, ah, you know.
- [43:17]
Fran
No, I know that. I. I totally. I totally agree.
- [43:20]
Brianne
I loved Hunter Schaefer's dress as well.
- [43:22]
Fran
Gorgeous.
- [43:23]
Brianne
Gorgeous. Like the coloring.
- [43:25]
Fran
Good reds. Yeah. Yeah, good reds, which.
- [43:27]
Brianne
That was stunning.
- [43:29]
Fran
Classic.
- [43:30]
Brianne
And yeah, I thought it was good carpet. I thought. I thought everyone looked gorgeous.
- [43:33]
Fran
I know Selena and Benny looked really happy together. We may be approaching wedding time. So people say the rumors are swirling that the wedding is. Is sometime soon. So that was really cute. And I guess Selena caught. Everyone's saying that she caught. You know, Martin Short was on his phone and there's a video of it and he's texting and it looks like Selena kind of looks over to see what, what he's doing and then looks over at Benny. It says, oh, like Martin's texting Meryl or like Marty, whatever it's like, which is so cute.
- [44:01]
Brianne
So cute. And that's why he ignored me last week. He didn't want Merrill to get jealous. I get it, I get it. But that is just adorable. But yeah, I think Selena Gomez, you know, the sources were saying she's getting married at the end of September. Then she did Amy Poehler's podcast and they did a tick tock too. You know, September, the song. So I thought maybe it's next weekend, you know, that, you know, this upcoming weekend, you never know. Or the weekend after that would be like the total end of September. So we, we shall see. We.
- [44:31]
Fran
We shall see. But I bet it's. I bet it's soon.
- [44:33]
Brianne
I bet it is soon.
- [44:35]
Fran
Yeah.
- [44:36]
Brianne
All right, that wraps up the topics, but we will get into the weekly Watch report.
- [44:43]
Fran
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- [45:49]
Brianne
All right, let's get into the weekly watch report, where we talk about the things we watch this week. Weekly watch report on Monday. Weekly watch report on Monday. Weekly watch report on Monday. Weekly watch report on Monday. All right, I watched the wrong Paris, the new Miranda Cosgrove movie.
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Fran
I don't know anything about this. Can you. Is it a rom com?
- [46:10]
Brianne
Yes, it totally is. And I thoroughly enjoyed it. I'm not gonna lie. I put it on.
- [46:16]
Fran
What's it on?
- [46:17]
Brianne
It's on Netflix.
- [46:18]
Fran
Oh, shit.
- [46:19]
Brianne
And it's number one right now.
- [46:21]
Fran
Oh, shit.
- [46:23]
Brianne
It is a rom com. And it is about this girl from a small town in Texas who enters to be on sort of like a reality show, like the Bachelor. Like, it's called the Honey Pot, but it's literally just the Bachelor. And she thinks it's set in Paris, France, and that's what everyone who is joining the show thinks. It's in Paris, France. And she wants to go to Paris for art school. So she thinks this is her way in. And she ends up getting on the show, and then it's like ska. Actually, you're going to Paris, Texas, which is only 40 minutes down the road from her small town. And, you know, it's a reality. It's like they show the. The reality show competitions. This. This one wins a date with this guy. This one was a date with this guy. You win money. It's a whole thing.
- [47:13]
Fran
It's.
- [47:13]
Brianne
It's very cute. And she had met the bachelor, the honey Pot, you know, only a couple weeks prior to filming at a bar. She randomly. So then, you know, he shows up as the honey pot, and she's like, oh, it's this guy. You know, it's a little back and forth, and it was cute. It's short. Probably like an hour and a half movie. Maybe a little longer than that. And I thoroughly enjoyed my time watching it. And you will thoroughly enjoy your time watching it. I know for a fact I know you.
- [47:42]
Fran
My God. That sounds Right up my alley.
- [47:44]
Brianne
No, you will. You will love this. You will love it. Cute cowboy lead, like, you'll eat it up. Madison Pettis is in it, playing like the villain, so to speak. Really just, it was top notch for me. I'll give it a B plus. I enjoyed my time. I thought it was really cute.
- [48:03]
Fran
Oh, I'm putting that on my list this week for sure.
- [48:05]
Brianne
Yes, you'll love. You will. You will love. Then I watched the Charlie Sheen documentary, AKA Charlie Sheen. Wowza, Charlie. I mean, we knew, we knew Charlie Sheen was, you know, not so. And we got all the behind the scenes about his life, some of which we knew already, some in which we didn't know already. And you know what? He got up there and he was very honest about everything that, that, that he has done and has been through. And, you know, it's a lot. There's a lot. Denise Richards was in it, obviously. Charlie. Denise Richards is the ex. One of Charlie Sheen's ex wives. He has many, but one of his ex wives, he has kids with her and she was in it and obviously very sad, you know, talking about their divorce and all the ups and downs of that and, you know, all of, you know, his addictions and drugs and alcohol and, you know, just a lot. Just a lot, a lot. I thought it was really good though, that it was very, very good. I will give that an A minus. I thought it was good. It was long though, two parts, but, you know, it had to include everything. So I will give that an A minus. Loving a good documentary these days.
- [49:24]
Fran
I. Yeah, it was really, it was really good. Like, I think that that whole setup was something that they probably like, probably something he needed to do just very. Yes. Started to get all that off his, off his chest and kind of clear things up and talk about these things that were, were going on at the time. And we were, you know, young enough during the whole, like, winning stage of his life that I don't think I like, fully grasped everything that was, everything that was going on. It's shocking that he is, you know, alive from.
- [50:03]
Brianne
Definitely. Yeah.
- [50:04]
Fran
Everything that he, you know, put his, put his body through and everything that he did is really pretty crazy. And I, I do. I thought Denise also was great because it was a little bit of an insight of all the things that she was doing even after they got divorced, you know, even after all the things that she was involved in. What do you think Nicholas Cage is thinking? Like, hey, man, let me tell you, I wasn't in this so much.
- [50:35]
Brianne
1000% had the same exact thought. I said to Matt out loud, I said, you think Nicolas Cage wanted some of these stories out there? But then it, it flashed to Nicholas Cage telling one of the stories on a talk show. So I don't. But I didn't know a lot about that, about Nicholas Cage. But Charlie, I didn't kind of like he was like, you know, Nicholas Cage seemed to be like the gateway to everything that went on. Not actually, but, you know, there was a lot of. There was a lot of stuff that, you know, played a part. But yeah, he really, I mean, him talking about, you know, smoking crack for the first time and getting a blowjob at the same time. I said, yeah. I mean, wow, you throw that combination together, that's gonna do something to a person. I would imagine the ice cube up his ass. Yeah, throwing the ice cube up his ass. And, you know, it's crazy. I, like, by the time my parents got to me, you know, I'm the youngest and I'm the third, I think they just, they didn't. It wasn't like anything was on the tv and they're like, you can't watch this. Like, I remember sitting on the couch and watching Two and a Half Men when my parents were watching Two and a Half Men. And I was young and I remember finding out that Charlie Sheen was sort of like his character on. And I was stunned. I was like, oh, my.
- [51:41]
Fran
What do you mean?
- [51:42]
Brianne
Charlie Sheen is like playing him, was playing himself. Oh, you know, I clutched my pearls as whatever age I was 8 or years old or whatever. Oh. You know, and then after that, it was just, you know, all that, like you said, the winning. And he was online and, you know, a lot on social media and all that. So it is really a roller coaster of a documentary and very, very interesting. And yeah, you know, he, he doesn't hide from who he is. He's just out there talking about it all.
- [52:15]
Fran
So I hope he continues to repair his relationship with his kids because I know that like Lola is in. Is in it and agreed to it, but I know there's been like some, even some online drama between like the sisters and they're kind of at that age. And Sammy posted a tick tock of her watching it and like crying and being like, oh, I, I didn't know he got sober for us. And just these things that, you know, she said it was a, a great documentary, something to watch. So seems like maybe she learned a lot obviously that, that, that she didn't know because I think they have maybe not had the greatest relate. Sammy and him have not had the greatest relationship for a little bit of time now. So you just hope that maybe this whole thing was like a healing process.
- [53:07]
Brianne
For a lot of them, definitely. So that was. That was very good. And then I recommend people watching. It was very crazy. Then I watched Stalking Samantha. Samantha thirteen Years of Terror on Hulu. It's a three part, you know, like, true crime documentary. And it talks about Samantha who was stalked by this man for over a decade of her life. And he. It's insane. Obviously. It's very, very wild. Watched all three parts. I will give that. You know, it always. It's always like, you're grading, like, something about this woman who was stalked, but I'll give it a B plus. I thought it was incredibly interesting. And, you know, sometimes you hear these stories in documentary, like, how did I not hear about this? You know? But that was wild. Very, very, very wild.
- [53:59]
Fran
Yeah.
- [54:00]
Brianne
I don't know.
- [54:00]
Fran
I don't know.
- [54:01]
Brianne
He was, you know, he was just obsessed, you know, and went through extreme lengths and, you know, you know, kidnapped her, trapped her. It's a lot. It is a lot. And then summer, I turned pretty. Second to last episode. Last episode will be this week. I grade this episode a B. It was probably my least favorite of the bunch of all the episodes this season. Some people loved it, some people didn't. I'm excited for the finale. I think hopefully we will be fed and happy. And I've never. We talked about this last week, so not much more to say about that. But that is everything new that I watched. We've been watching King of Queens before about every night, but that's just rewatch, so.
- [54:53]
Fran
You sure have King of Queens. Any chance?
- [54:59]
Lisa Barlow
Yeah.
- [54:59]
Brianne
Friends, like, what's with all the King of Queens references? I'm like, we're watching before about every night.
- [55:03]
Fran
No, I. She FaceTimed me over the. Like, I actually asked her. I was like, is this a bit like, is this like a yes? Well, I FaceTimed you. I was like, are you doing a bit about King of Queens? That's like, how many times can I mention King of Queens before France? Like, why are you talking about King Queen so much?
- [55:20]
Brianne
Yeah, I FaceTimed you when I was with Emma and Julie because we were talking about my nails. And gotta be honest there, I gotta get them redone. They're all different shapes and sizes. And we're just gonna move past that. But I forgot why I brought up King of Queens again. And you, you literally stopped the fate. You were like, I'm sorry, is this.
- [55:38]
Fran
Your baby about talking with your hands again and then you talk about K about King of Queens.
- [55:42]
Brianne
I was like, this is not a bit.
- [55:46]
Noah
I actually had a King of Queens question in trivia last week, and then I took it out because I'm like, that's, like, too niche. They're not going to know what was it. I'll save it.
- [55:56]
Brianne
All right. All right. Yes, let me know. All right. That's everything I watched.
- [56:02]
Fran
I will give the summer I turned Pretty episode a B. I think we're working our way there. I like to see the progress everybody is making. What. Where. Where everybody is. And I liked the stuff in Paris, even though I. I am optimistic about the final episode. But we shall see. I watched. I'll give the. I'll give the Charlie Sheen docket a minus as well. I thought it was really good. I watched. Watched Naked Gun, the Liam Neeson one.
- [56:39]
Brianne
Yeah.
- [56:40]
Fran
Last week it was. You can rent it now or whatever. So it was funny. It's, you know, classic slapstick comedy. Like, stupid, you know, stupid comedy that, like, you don't really have to think too hard, but you're laughing because it's silly, which I think is what everyone expects from us.
- [57:00]
Noah
In it.
- [57:00]
Fran
I thought he was great.
- [57:01]
Noah
Yeah, I did. I forget who, but I saw, like, some podcast or something talking about, like, if this was Steve Martin instead of, like, it would better if it was, like, a funnier guy. But I don't know if that's the case. I have seen, like, oh, mostly people.
- [57:12]
Fran
Liking it, so I. I get that. But I also think it would have been too, like. It's like the. It's. It's such stupid. Like, I can't. I know I'm. It's a bad word to use, but it's just, like, silly, you know, it's silly. So it's like if you put that. If you put an even sillier guy into it, I don't know if it would go, like, way too out of the realm, but I'll give it a B. Like, I thought it was funny. It's just like, it's not necessarily my typical genre of, like, my favorite stuff, but it was good. I thought Pamela Anderson was. Was fantastic. Apparently they really were never dating. And we never. We never talked about that.
- [57:52]
Brianne
But wait there. They never. They were never dating.
- [57:55]
Fran
Apparently they were never dating. There was an article came out maybe last weekend.
- [57:59]
Noah
Like, said in one of those speeches that she would never, like, fake a relationship.
- [58:03]
Fran
I. I'm just saying that. When was that?
- [58:06]
Noah
That Was like, after that report came out. And she didn't like, directly say it, but it was pretty obvious that she was talking about, like, she's like, I would never fake a relationship or anything. Like, I take.
- [58:15]
Fran
Okay, so maybe, but I don't know. Like, maybe not. I don't know.
- [58:18]
Brianne
Huh?
- [58:19]
Fran
Oh, yeah. Pamela Anderson seemingly shuts down PR stunt claims about her Liam Neeson romance rumors because two weeks ago a TMZ article came out that said Pamela Anderson Liam Neeson relationship was PR stunt. From this start, sources with direct knowledge tell TMZ the whole Pam and Liam love fest was cooked up by the their PR teams in Paramount.
- [58:39]
Noah
I feel like they're too old to be faking a relationship for views.
- [58:43]
Fran
I mean, I would think so, too.
- [58:44]
Brianne
I agree.
- [58:46]
Fran
I would think so, too. This. This article is posted this morning that Pamela Anderson's sons are worried about her relationship with him. They believe the relationship with Liam could leave her heartbroken, says source. Damn.
- [59:02]
Brianne
Damn.
- [59:03]
Fran
So I don't really know. I mean, we're getting a lot of mixed reports on what. What was going on between the two of them. I watched the first episode of part two of season two of Wednesday. I haven't. I have to finish it still. I really like Wednesday.
- [59:21]
Brianne
Viewership dropped, like, by 50 or 40. Did you see that?
- [59:25]
Fran
I saw that. And you know what? Sorry to, like, I really think doing the whole splitting up a season in two parts like that is. Is annoying. Like, I was so excited to watch part one and watched it immediately when it was released. And then, I mean, I was, like, excited to watch these ones, but it just kind of takes you out of it for a second because you're like, it's not that far away. It was maybe three weeks ago, but I'm still kind of thinking, wait, what happened again in the episodes I watched? Trying to remind myself. And it's like, oh, do you just wait to watch it all together? I'm sure some people probably don't even watch the first part. They're like, oh, I'll just wait for the second part to come out and then we'll start it from the. From the beginning. I think it's kind of a stupid release strategy. I don't really like when they do that, when it's. Especially when it's so close. Like, it's a weird amount of time. They do it like three weeks to a month in between. Just put it all out so we can watch it. Because I. And then it's like, poorly advertised. So I don't even know if people People may think, oh, part one came out. Now we gotta wait months and months for the rest of it. But it's like, oh, I. I don't really even know if people knew that part two was coming out. I barely saw people talking about it. So I feel like that's kind of a big thing with that too. But I watched, I think episode. I think it's technically episode five. I will give a. I'll give a B plus. I. I think Wednesday is a fantastic show. So. And it's maybe like, dropped off a little bit from the. From the first season, but nothing crazy, at least in my opinion. I caught up on real houses in Miami. It was exactly what I needed. Like, just putting on a housewife show, something silly. And they're on there. They're on their big. They have been on their big cast trip to Spain. And the problems of, like, who gets to go on the private jet? Who doesn't get to go on the private jet? Who's Stephanie inviting onto the private jet? Why is Lisa still following Marcus Jordan? Why won't she just unfollow him? There's all like. It's just. It's. It's ridiculous. But there really are some. And then they're like. They're sitting down these dinners, making these comments. Sometimes Adriana just says things. Not like, whoa. That she really. I mean, think before you speak.
- [61:51]
Brianne
I.
- [61:52]
Fran
It's. It's shocking and freaks out. She can prime example of like, wants to dish it but can't take it kind of situation, which I know a lot of housewives are like that. But I felt that majorly through these episodes. But I'm. Now I'm caught up. It's been. It's been good. It's been good tv. I'll give it. I'll give it a solid B plus. Like a good B plus. It's really very entertaining. And I think that that is.
- [62:26]
Noah
You guys aren't watching the Amanda Knox thing anymore.
- [62:29]
Fran
I. I haven't. I am. I. I just haven't. I'm watch. I haven't pressed play on the episode. I do want to grade the end of my life with the Walter boys, the last episode. D minus. Not gonna fully give it a. A full F, but the way they just gave us the exact. It's the same ending. So same ending. Just unfortunate. And that's. That's everything I watched.
- [62:58]
Brianne
I respect that.
- [63:01]
Noah
I started the Mark Ruffalo show on hbo. That's like the new Sunday show Task. It's called.
- [63:08]
Fran
Yeah.
- [63:09]
Noah
It feel. I. People are comparing it to mayor of Easttown. It has that, like, vibe to it. So far, I only watched one episode. I haven't watched the most recent one. But it's really good. Like. Yeah, I would say, like, it's gonna probably turn into that.
- [63:23]
Brianne
All right, nice. Good. We need to get on board before.
- [63:26]
Noah
I get like, a detective. But he obviously is troubled.
- [63:30]
Brianne
Yes.
- [63:30]
Noah
And just classic. And there's all these break ins happening and he needs. So yeah, I would definitely recommend it. I'll give that an A minus.
- [63:38]
Brianne
Nice.
- [63:39]
Noah
The summer I turn pretty. I'll give it. I'll give a. I'll give a B minus. It's. You know, I don't know why people have.
- [63:47]
Fran
You're gonna say it's losing me.
- [63:48]
Noah
Yeah, I was gonna say it's losing me. But, like, that's not.
- [63:50]
Fran
Like, there's only one. There's one episode left.
- [63:52]
Noah
But I'm also like, I don't know why you gu. Have such faith that, like, they're just gonna wrap it up nicely this week. Like the last two episodes. Like, I don't see that. And if. Even if it gets wrapped up, I just feel like it's gonna be so rushed.
- [64:03]
Brianne
Well, we'll see. Like, we gotta keep our minds.
- [64:06]
Fran
Let us be optimistic. I can't see any more people on TikTok being like, surprise. There's gonna be surprise. Like, people are so desperate that when they're saying there's gonna be like multiple surprise episodes, I'm like, it's just not gonna be that way.
- [64:18]
Lisa Barlow
But.
- [64:18]
Noah
Well, because I feel like no one. It just doesn't make sense that, like, this show.
- [64:22]
Brianne
We'll find out in this last episode. We'll see if. How they do it. You know, we can't say that it's not gonna be wrapped up.
- [64:27]
Noah
You know what this feels like?
- [64:28]
Brianne
Have not seen it.
- [64:29]
Noah
It feels like, you know when you used to write like a birthday card or something and at least this would happen to me and I, like, don't know how much room I have. So by the end, I'm like cramming everything at the end of the card, like. Cause I'm like, oh, fuck, I thought I had more room. That's what this feels like. It's like she thought she had more episodes than she did.
- [64:47]
Brianne
Well, don't say that just yet. We'll find out.
- [64:50]
Fran
Yeah, we don't know.
- [64:50]
Brianne
That's a funny comparison though. For sure.
- [64:53]
Noah
Okay. I watched the most recent Amanda Knox. This show, I really feel like I can't grade it because I don't love It. So I'll go on my phone, but then it's mostly in a different language. So then I'm not really, like. I'm just listening to a different language. And when I look up, I don't really know what's going on, if I'm being honest. But it's not like grabbing me.
- [65:16]
Fran
So you're really not watching. I mean, you're not watching it. You don't know what's going on. They're speaking Italian. You don't know what they're saying.
- [65:21]
Noah
Yeah, yeah, but I just feel like I have to keep watching it for some reason.
- [65:25]
Brianne
Cause you started it.
- [65:26]
Noah
Yeah, but I just. But it's never grabbed me. Like, even the whole, like, murder part in that whole, like, I just wasn't like, loving it. So I'll give it a B minus. I don't know why, but.
- [65:40]
Brianne
Yeah, that's your grade.
- [65:43]
Noah
I watched Weapons finally.
- [65:45]
Brianne
Okay. That is this week for me. I'm watching Weapons this week. I'm scared. So it has to be like, not too late, but not too early. You know, it's gotta be like.
- [65:52]
Noah
Like it's not like terrifying, like, I.
- [65:56]
Fran
Think that's like an.
- [65:57]
Brianne
That's like an. An 8:30pm movie for me.
- [66:01]
Noah
Yeah.
- [66:02]
Fran
Maybe even eight.
- [66:03]
Brianne
Maybe even eight. We're like, yes, the sun just set.
- [66:06]
Fran
It's getting. It's getting darker, unfortunately. I hate to be the bearer of bad news. The sun is 7pm is. We're done now.
- [66:12]
Brianne
I know we. You're not being the bearer. Bear news. I've been seeing it, you know, we.
- [66:16]
Fran
All see what I'm saying. No, I mean in the Bear. Bad news and now the sun. You know when you see all the graphics are like, the sun isn't going to set post 7pm until whatever, March, something 2026.
- [66:28]
Noah
You're like, when is daylight savings? Is that the next one?
- [66:31]
Brianne
Usually in October.
- [66:33]
Fran
October it is.
- [66:35]
Noah
When are they getting rid of that? Didn't they pass the law that like, they're getting rid of it?
- [66:39]
Fran
Oh, it's actually the. It's the first weekend of November. Oh, no weekend.
- [66:44]
Noah
Okay. But yeah, weapons was really good. Like, I would say definitely. Like, people were hyping it up obviously, but I say it lived up to the hype.
- [66:53]
Brianne
Did it?
- [66:54]
Noah
Yeah. And it isn't like. I mean, it's kind of creepy at points, but it's not. There aren't really any like, jump scares or anything really. Maybe there's a couple, but like, not really.
- [67:05]
Brianne
Okay.
- [67:06]
Noah
It's more of like a mystery. I did see that originally Pedro Pascal was, like, cast to play the. The role that Josh Brolin played. Thank God he didn't. That would have ruined it. But Josh was really good. Pedro Pascal.
- [67:21]
Fran
Like, what with the ricochet shot to.
- [67:23]
Noah
Pedro, I'm just off that train. I just. I just don't know. Like, I'm just off the train. And in any movie I see him in now, I'm like, it's Pedro Pascal. Like, it's not a character. I don't know. Maybe it's because the last of us. Like. Yeah, I don't. I don't know. But I would. I would highly recommend that. I'll give it an A. Like, really good.
- [67:42]
Brianne
Okay, I'm excited. Then it's finally on streaming. This past week, it happened.
- [67:46]
Noah
Yeah, that's. I got it on, which I kind of, while I was watching, it was like, I wish I saw this in theaters, but. But, yeah, that was really good. And then I watched the first episode of this show, the Girlfriend.
- [68:00]
Brianne
I put that on last night, but it was late. It was about 11pm and the jump scare, right at the beginning. I said, no, no, it's too late for this. And then I shut it off.
- [68:12]
Noah
Yeah, it's with Robin Wright and I don't know the other. Anyone else in it, but so far, so good. What. Who is that other. Who is the girlfriend? What is her name? Because I've seen her before.
- [68:25]
Brianne
I looked this up last night. Now I'm blanking because.
- [68:29]
Noah
Olivia Cook.
- [68:30]
Brianne
Yeah.
- [68:31]
Fran
She's in House of Dragon.
- [68:32]
Brianne
Yes.
- [68:33]
Noah
Oh, she's in House of Dragon. What was she in House of Dragon.
- [68:36]
Fran
She's the. She's Alice in the Hightower.
- [68:42]
Noah
But.
- [68:45]
Fran
The way Noah said that, like, he didn't believe me.
- [68:47]
Noah
No, no, no. It's not that I don't believe you. It's just that I don't really remember the House of the Dragon.
- [68:51]
Fran
Like, she's literally the main. You know what? You're right.
- [68:54]
Brianne
You're right.
- [68:55]
Noah
I see her now. I see her now.
- [68:56]
Brianne
Was it as scary as I thought it was gonna be, or. No?
- [69:00]
Noah
I don't think it was scary at all.
- [69:02]
Brianne
Okay, well, you understand how I thought it maybe could be with the very beginning of the first episode. It was like a jump.
- [69:07]
Noah
Like, what was the jumping.
- [69:08]
Brianne
Are you. Are you just on your phone all the time?
- [69:11]
Noah
I'm not.
- [69:12]
Fran
Let me tell you, I don't think Noah's really watching anything. It. Literally watching him watch episodes of shows. I think we have to take some of his reviews. Is he really watching the whole thing?
- [69:22]
Brianne
Well, it Said Psychological Thriller. And then when I press play, it was like a. Like a loud noise. And then it. Like. And then it's. And then it started. So, like, I literally didn't get past 10 seconds because of the.
- [69:35]
Noah
You know, then I must have been like, just not the kitchen or something. But it was like, the credits. You're talking about. Like, we're like, not the credits.
- [69:40]
Brianne
It was the very beginning all of a sudden, and Matt was like, yeah. No, no, no. Like, okay. We both were like, wait. No. But I imagine the rest of the episode wasn't like that. I think it was just like the.
- [69:51]
Noah
It's like. It has, like, a tense vibe, but nothing, like, scary so far, but you kind of feel like you're going in that direction.
- [69:59]
Brianne
Maybe we have different definitions of scary.
- [70:02]
Noah
Yeah, I don't know what.
- [70:03]
Brianne
We probably have different definitions of scary. Did you guys ever watch this on Amazon Prime?
- [70:09]
Noah
Yeah. Did he ever watch that movie with Justin Long, Barbarian?
- [70:13]
Fran
No. No.
- [70:14]
Noah
Oh, because that's. I didn't realize. But that's the same director who directed Weapons.
- [70:17]
Brianne
Yeah. Yeah.
- [70:19]
Noah
But, yeah, I'll give the girlfriend. I give it a B plus. Like, so far, I'm pretty. I'm just kind of want to see where this goes because I don't really know what's going on, like, in the story.
- [70:30]
Brianne
From what I gather. It's like the mom and the girlfriend are gonna be at.
- [70:34]
Noah
Yeah, but it seems a lot deeper than that. Like, this girl is. Something's up with her.
- [70:38]
Brianne
Yeah.
- [70:39]
Fran
Is. Is it. Is the whole season out? Or is it.
- [70:42]
Noah
It looks like the whole season.
- [70:43]
Brianne
Yeah, I think so. Okay.
- [70:45]
Fran
Okay. Anything else?
- [70:47]
Noah
That's all I got.
- [70:48]
Fran
I forgot. I want to add to mine that I watched the first three episodes of the Paper.
- [70:53]
Noah
Oh.
- [70:54]
Fran
Just kind of. We just sort of like, Joe and I, like, threw it on after we watched. I think after we watched, like, Naked Gun or whatever, we're like, oh, let's just put something on the paper. Which is like a new sort of, I guess, technically, maybe spin off, I guess you could call it, of the Office. Same kind of docu series, maku series type setup. And it's. It's cute. Like, nothing crazy. I can't say. Like, I was, you know, blown away right away anytime. I think a show like this is very hard, especially when it's like, oh, watch the papers, but above the Office. People just expect it to be, like, just as good or just as funny as the Office. And it's just starting, so you really don't know. It's like Oscar is in it?
- [71:42]
Noah
Yes. Is he a different. Oh, okay.
- [71:46]
Fran
Oscar is in it as Oscar. And I, I like the premise of it. I mean it's like a failing newspaper. It's not even really failing. It's like a never been really newspaper trying to get like local news stories and, and things like that. And the woman from season two of White Lotus, the, the Italian woman. Yeah, she is, she's in it. She's fantastic. I think she is really very good and she's got great comedic timing. So yeah, watching that, it's fine. I give it a, I give it a B. Like it's like, you know, it's so far it's like cute. Maybe there's a couple little romance things. It's funny, it's.
- [72:35]
Brianne
Yeah, you chuckle here and there.
- [72:37]
Fran
Yeah. But you know, like when you watch the office, you get so invested in the characters and things. You just need, you need time to build those things up. And half the time I think with sitcoms too, especially like if you look back and see what people say about most sitcoms, they're like, oh, you gotta get to season two or three. That's like when it really gets good, you know. And so when you watch something the first season, it's hard to like fully, fully dive right in because they gotta, they got to set you up into it a little bit. So keep watching that. But I forgot that I wanted to throw that in.
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- [74:51]
Lisa Barlow
The trailer was so good. I. Once you live it, it's crazy to see what actually makes the cut because there's so much. But I think the trailer was great. I think it's a weird season. It's definitely. While we were filming it and hanging out, it felt so different. Like, different from any other season.
- [75:12]
Fran
Why do you think that is?
- [75:15]
Lisa Barlow
I mean, there's so many reasons. I just think, like, comfort level for some of the newer girls in the friend group and just like, evolution, probably. So it felt, like, very different.
- [75:29]
Brianne
Are you excited for this season to come out?
- [75:32]
Lisa Barlow
I don't know. I never am. I don't know if I get nervous.
- [75:35]
Brianne
What's the feelings and emotions right now?
- [75:37]
Lisa Barlow
You know, this season I felt like, personally, I love working and I have so many things outside of the show. And there's things that I didn't do before. Like when we were filming, I would just cut everything off and then resume after we wrapped. And I think this year I was very focused on what makes me happy, what I do extraneously. That's great. And I'm not even in the first episode because I was working in Austin for South by and for me, that just felt different because I usually am, like, done drop everything. And this season I was like, I need a little more balance, I think with Jack leaving and, you know, like, how it felt at home with just one child.
- [76:22]
Brianne
Home.
- [76:23]
Lisa Barlow
I just needed to, like, regroup personally. But I think that's one factor for me. But I also think depth and dimension from others and, like, you know, that I'm friends with on this. I think it's important that you have, like, more depth and dimension. And, like, that's very important to me. Like evolution.
- [76:40]
Brianne
Yeah. How did it go down with the rest of the cast that you weren't a part of the first episode?
- [76:45]
Lisa Barlow
Have you guys seen it?
- [76:46]
Brianne
Not yet, but I. But I did read about it right.
- [76:49]
Fran
Before we did see, there were some thoughts.
- [76:53]
Lisa Barlow
Yeah, there was. I mean, I think they took it as an opportunity, if you had an issue with me, to, like, share that, which, you know, I don't. I've never done that to anyone. I feel like I, like, defend myself, but I'm like, I'm a sag. I'm like, you can do whatever you want to do, and, like, if it's affecting me, then I have an issue. But other than that, I don't really care. And I think it was interesting for me to watch it back. And, like, I'm like, wow, you guys, like, really took the opportunity to, like, have a little sesh without me, you know, I mean, I think Heather, Meredith, and Brittany, like, definitely had my back on that situation, which felt nice because I've never had that. So I'm like, this is amazing, but it was crazy. It felt different.
- [77:36]
Fran
The friendship dynamic of your group are always changing, like, I think more than any other Housewives franchise every season. You don't know. It's like the friend groups completely change sometimes. And some people who are fighting the last season, now they're best friends the next season. How do you prepare, like, going into a. Filming a new season when maybe someone you were friends with last season, now all of a sudden, you're not friends with anymore.
- [78:02]
Lisa Barlow
You know, it's such a weird dynamic on our show. I think some of it shifts organically. I grew up on the east coast and West Coast. East coast is very different. Like, loyalty, like, how you handle friendships, how you are as a friend in friendships is so different. It's not about, like, on the East Coast. I think it's like, very. I mean, I'm just very generalizing here, but it's like a very, you know, your mom's friends from when you were a little kid, and you stay in touch with them. If they ever asked you for anything, you would do anything for them. And I think, like, it's real. And I think sometimes, like, in Utah, I feel like culturally it's more surface level. I've talked to a lot of my friends that grew up and were born and raised in Utah about, like, how they handle friendships and, like, you know, like, I think culturally with, you know, the religion isn't such a big factor in Utah anymore. Like, it used to be, you know, 25, 30 years ago. It's so different. It's not as impactful, I think, on culture, but they are raised to, like, tell people, like, smile and then stab you in the back. And that's been hard for me because, like, if I'm being your friend, I'm like, this is real for me. And so I think if you're faking a friendship or doing it for appearance, it's really hard. And like, that's what I was saying. I want that depth and dimension and sometimes that's hard to get. And I think that plays a role in how, like the switch ups happen.
- [79:23]
Brianne
Well, it's so interesting, friend, the point that you brought up. We brought up the same point with the Mormon wives in Utah. And we said to them, like, it seems like every season the friendships are changing. Who you're best friends with is different than who you were best friends with last season. So it's sort of kind of like what you were saying with.
- [79:42]
Lisa Barlow
Oh, that's 100% appropriate for their show too.
- [79:45]
Brianne
Yeah, like maybe.
- [79:46]
Lisa Barlow
And how they can like switch it up and be like, oh my gosh, you just tried to wreck my life and now I'm your best friend.
- [79:51]
Fran
Right.
- [79:51]
Brianne
And obviously generalizing. And not everybody's like that, but the similarities.
- [79:56]
Fran
Is there a little like passive aggressive, you think how people handle, like, conflict?
- [80:00]
Lisa Barlow
Yeah, it's super passive aggressive. I have a girl that does my hair in Utah and she like literally got into her feelings about it and she was explaining like what she experienced growing up to me and she sent me a quote and she's like, it's very passive aggressive and she's like, you know, it lacks that depth and dimension because it is fake and it's for appearance, not for like reality. And then they function that way. It's like, it feels like a little Stepford Y. Like, you know what I mean?
- [80:29]
Fran
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
- [80:30]
Lisa Barlow
It's different. Do you think I could read her quote? It was actually better than what I'm saying. Like, way better. I should post it. I'll send it to you and you can post it. But it's a great quote of like, how to explain that. But that would be hard for me too, you know.
- [80:44]
Fran
Do you think people kind of play it up for the show as well? Like that, like you're saying that kind of step forward?
- [80:50]
Lisa Barlow
No, I think they feel like. I feel like Utah's like, when I went to school there a long time ago, I did a couple years there and then went back to New York. I went to a SUNY school in New York and it was so hard for me because I feel like everything is about appearance and in the way that it's like everyone's beautiful in Utah. People take amazing care of Themselves, they're so pretty and, like. But not, like, natural east coast pretty. It's a different kind of pretty, but still beautiful. And I just feel like there's so much on, like, being the best singer. Dancer. Dancer is a big thing with the stars.
- [81:30]
Brianne
Yeah.
- [81:31]
Lisa Barlow
Everyone on Dancing with the Stars is from Utah, and I feel like that's such a big thing. And I think it's hard because it's all based on outward instead of inward appearance. Like, where. When I was growing up, my mom's like, you better have straight A's and, like, focus on education. It's very different. And it's. It's a cultural thing. I think it's shifting a little bit. But I think growing up there, I didn't grow up there, so I think for those that grew up there, and these are very generalized statements, but, like, I think it would be hard because you're not focusing on things that, like, make you, like, a better person, like, in some ways, but in other ways.
- [82:05]
Brianne
You are, you know, now talking so much about the east coast and you being from New York. What brought you to Utah?
- [82:11]
Lisa Barlow
Oh, my gosh. It's a long story. I converted. My family converted to Mormonism when I was in high school. And for me, it was like, oh, my gosh, there's no Mormons here. It's, like, so different. I practiced the faith so differently, and then I was like, oh, my gosh, it'd be so amazing to go to byu because you see all these flyers and posters and, you know, like, not so much on the Internet back then, but, like, you know, you saw these things, and I was like, I really want to go to school there. I moved out to Utah to go to byu, and I made the most amazing friends. Like, I still have my same friend group that I had in college. Most of my friends were implants. Like, where they moved from California, Chicago, Boston. So, like, that became my core friend group. And so the first go around, like, I was like, I love it here. It's so different. It's the desert. The weather's insane. Like, we don't. We have four seasons, but it's not this, like, swell heat in the summer. It's like a dry heat and a dry cold in the winter. So that always keeps me staying there because it's so good. But I moved back to New York, and then I was like, you know what? I miss Utah. I'm gonna go back. But it's addictive. There's so many things about Utah that are easy. The state's evolved so Much. It's a tech hub. So, like, it used to be Silicon Valley. Now it's silicone slopes. Like all major tech companies, I think, are either in, like, Utah or Texas. There's so much going on. There's so much opportunity there. So I think that really keeps me there in my core friendships, which I have back here, too. I have it both places.
- [83:50]
Fran
What's it like now that, I mean, you guys kind of paved the way for it, but now reality TV has become such a huge thing out in Salt Lake City. I feel like we've gotten more and more shows that are being filmed out there. How has that kind of shifted the town at all? Has it had an effect?
- [84:09]
Lisa Barlow
I don't know if I feel it, but I get in a different zone. You know, there's like, one zone here and then another zone where I'm, like, very involved in the community, and we always were. So, like, I've stayed that way. I, like, forget I'm on a show sometimes, and someone will come up and say something, and I'm like, oh, my gosh. What are you. Wait, what? Oh, yeah, okay, I got it. You know, like, Bravo. But I feel like it has shifted some people's lives, but organically, I think Salt Lake is such a star on its own. The city, like, what happens in Salt Lake? Park City, like, we. I consider, like, Park City when we say Salt Lake, it's, like, all encompassing, but I just feel like there's so many cool things that have always happened there. Like, you know, like the Sundance Film Festival. There's so many feature films filmed there. Like, Yellowstone started there. Like, there's so many cool things that are always happening that I think it's fun for people to be like, oh, my gosh, it's showcasing my faith or my state or my city or my friend. So I think that's really fun. But I think Utah's always been underground.
- [85:16]
Brianne
Cool.
- [85:16]
Fran
Yeah. And now everybody's just watching it on tv.
- [85:20]
Lisa Barlow
I know. I was like, don't move here.
- [85:22]
Brianne
We're full.
- [85:23]
Fran
Yeah. Seriously. You guys have brought in some new players in the cast in the last couple seasons, and I think with some Bravo shows, sometimes it feels like, oh, they're saying they knew each other, but maybe they didn't really know each other. But it feels like on Salt Lake City, the new people have come in. There have been real connections. Whether it's like you with Angie and people have come in. How have you felt like a shift when new people come in that you knew in real life previously and now they're on the show. Cause I know things with Angie have taken a turn.
- [85:59]
Lisa Barlow
So I don't have a great track record of bringing people in and having it be great. You know, when I, like, no matter what's said in the press, I helped bring the show to Utah. Mikaleen Babich was amazing. She did NextGen. I had been introduced to her multiple times through text, email. When I would be in LA for a project, everyone would say, oh, you have to meet up with Michaeline. One of my best friends was a consummate in that. And it was really unique to bring Salt Lake to, you know, the franchise to Utah. And it didn't start off like, I think I knew it was gonna be a Housewives show, but it started off like more women in business. And I think there were organic connections. So, like, me with Heather, my best friend, who I'm very close with all my friends. Like, when I say I'm friends with my friends from college, I am so close with them. So my friend Angela Peterson was like, you have to meet my friend Heather. She. She's so fun and funny. Will you help her out and maybe help her brand be at Sundance? So that happened. And that's like, 2017. Ish. No, actually, in 2017. And so that's like, an organic connection, and we have someone that we love that's connecting us because she was also good friends with Heather. So I think those connections happened organically and have been great for the show. It's interesting when you know you have someone's back relentlessly and you're, like, fighting for them like, it's your life. And you're like, you know, like, blood's on the line. And then they, like, stab you in the back. That's, like, hard. That's really hard, you know? And that's where my sad side comes in, where I'm like, okay, I'll take.
- [87:31]
Brianne
It and take it.
- [87:32]
Lisa Barlow
And then if we. If you want me to end it, it's not gonna be good. I have to temper myself. I think you learn to do that. Cause you're like, do I want this over forever or, like, for now?
- [87:41]
Fran
Right? Yeah, no, that's true. I mean, do you think that's happening? Happened a little with. With Angie? Cause it really. Even just in the trailer, it seems like things are not great.
- [87:50]
Lisa Barlow
I mean, it's so dem. Like, Angie does things that are, like, I think for a boom moment, like, so demeaning. And I think it's hard when you can dish, but you can't take. Right. Like, you're gonna say something nasty, like, you gotta be okay with it when it's said back to you. And I don't think she's really experienced that. Like, I've had her back relentlessly with her marriage, her business, her other relationships and things. So, you know, I think she goes low. And then, like, when it's not a good look for her, then she's like, just kidding. Like what she did with trampoline with eyes. Right, right, right. But I think you, when you take things too far, you're like, isolating yourself. Like, I've never put myself in a position and I don't want to, where I can't recover from something, you know, like. And if, like, if you're at a point where you have to be so nasty to someone and you have nothing else to talk about or to go, like, be relevant with, then I think it's not like a good look. Like, I don't. Not even. Not a good look. It's like you're like, you better check yourself because you've taken it a little too far. Your boundaries are skewed.
- [88:53]
Fran
You know, there's always there. We felt that with your friendship with Meredith. Right. But now it seems like you guys are.
- [88:59]
Lisa Barlow
Oh, with my hot mic moment.
- [89:00]
Fran
Yes.
- [89:00]
Lisa Barlow
Oh, my gosh. You know, I was. I. That was never met for public consumption. I mean, it is what it is. It happened. I did that. I vent. I still do it. Like, I'll walk around my house, like, fuck, John.
- [89:11]
Brianne
You know what I mean?
- [89:12]
Lisa Barlow
I mean, you are who you are.
- [89:14]
Fran
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
- [89:15]
Lisa Barlow
You know, do I?
- [89:16]
Brianne
Like, I don't know.
- [89:16]
Fran
You're like. It was whispered under my breath, not meant to be.
- [89:19]
Lisa Barlow
I was like, literally, like, get me out of here. I'm flying home.
- [89:23]
Brianne
Yeah.
- [89:24]
Lisa Barlow
I just think, like, with Meredith and I, we had a real friendship to begin with. So you have to choose, like, do I want that back? Right? Like, for her and for me. Like, I obviously was feeling hurt and, you know, ranted and would never want to hurt her family. I think they're like, amazing and like, redact, Redact. But, you know, like, I'm glad we got to a place like this, but it took, like, hard hitting conversations, like, conversations no one saw where I was. Like, this is why I felt so hurt by you. This is why I left the table. I left the table because I knew I was gonna say a lot of stuff and I. I didn't want to be hurtful. And then, you know, there's a boom outside my door.
- [90:06]
Brianne
Now with this upcoming season, I know you can't tell us everything, you know, just a little tease. Is there anything particularly you are not excited for it to air? Storyline of some sort?
- [90:19]
Lisa Barlow
I never think that way, you know, like this. You know, I think some people have seen the first episode, and, you know, they're talking about, like, legal issues with me. We have, like, a million lawyers for a reason. We've been in business for 18 years. Like, you're gonna have lawsuits. And I think, you know, like, my SEC filing, which was not on Vida, which everyone likes to say, it's Vita. It was on a new brand, and we did it for a very specific reason. We've been in business for a long time. We own a lot of things. We do things for a reason. And if we're doing it, we know why we're doing it, we know why it's beneficial, blah, blah, blah. With that said, we do get sued. And, like, I'm not embarrassed of it. Like, every. I have, like, three friends being sued right now or that are suing people right now.
- [91:01]
Brianne
I mean, there's always legal problems on the Housewives and how Salt Lake City, you know. Yeah, these started off with a big.
- [91:09]
Lisa Barlow
These are not criminal. Like, they're civil. And there's a big difference between a civil and a criminal case. Anyone civilly can allege anything. And, like, you know, you have different business relationships and you do things, and. And sometimes all of our lawsuits are dismissed, which, legally, you can Google and look that up. But people are like, oh, my gosh, are you. I think they thought it was gonna embarrass me or upset me, and I'm like, no, that's the cost of doing business. That's why we have so many lawyers. We have lawyers in every state. We do business. It's smart, and you have to cross your T's and dot your I's. We're in, like, everything from, you know, we manufacture tequila in Mexico. We have an import company. We have a lounge in Park City called Premier. We have. I have Lux Marketing. We're investors in our kids brand and create other things. And sometimes I'm like, oh, it'd be nice if you guys celebrated my wins. I sold a company two years ago. No one ever talks about that. And, you know, like, in the first episode, I'm sure you saw in the trailer, like, you know, like, I feel like they're, like, always accusing me of things I don't do. Like, I've never hurt any of their companies. I've always been supportive. I've purchased their products, bought Gift certificates where, like, appropriate. And I just think it'd be nice sometimes to have someone say, like, lisa's a fucking badass. Like, I hope I can say that.
- [92:20]
Fran
Yes.
- [92:21]
Lisa Barlow
Yeah. No, like, lisa's a fucking badass. Look at what she does with Sundance. Look at all the things she's done. Instead of, like, being upset that I'm not in an rv, be like, oh, my gosh, that's so cool that she's at Blake Lively's premiere of Another Simple Favor and Ben Affleck's accountant too, you know, like, that would be amazing. You know what I mean? And that was my life. Pretty Housewives. It's been my life since 2007. And I wish that would be embraced more. And instead of people, like, always trying to pin things on me, say, like, you know what? She is super supportive. She's bought all my stuff, she's helped me sell products, she's referred me to her friends. Like, I wish that would be showcased a little more. But it's not. And that's fine.
- [93:02]
Fran
Yeah. You know, but do you think, like, just maybe some of the relationships with the ladies, they just use it, it as ammo because they just.
- [93:10]
Lisa Barlow
Then you're pretty, you know, boring.
- [93:12]
Fran
Yeah. Right. It's just.
- [93:13]
Lisa Barlow
Yeah, it's like you have nothing better to talk about. I mean, like, I have grievances with all of them all the time that are like, simple or big, that are based on real, like, fact, you know, I love fact. I love, like, it's a Capricorn moon sign. I'm like, I need fact, you know?
- [93:29]
Brianne
Yeah.
- [93:29]
Lisa Barlow
Like, and so I, you know, it's frustrating sometimes, but it is what it is.
- [93:35]
Fran
How do you think your relationship with Whitney has changed? Because I feel like throughout every season, you know, we watch it, like, kinda get better and they get worse and then kinda get better and then get worse and then like, ooh, maybe could they be friends, but then they can't.
- [93:49]
Lisa Barlow
It's just, you know, I like, don't give, I don't like to use the word like, oh, I gave you a chance, or I had your back and I'm loyal. Like, I hate those kind of terminology. Like current terminology, we don't use that. I grew up here. Do you ever go around being like, you know, not unless you.
- [94:06]
Brianne
It's kind of just like, unspoken.
- [94:07]
Lisa Barlow
Yeah, it's unspoken. So I think for me, that was kind of weird. And with Whitney when I was her friend, so beyond genuine. I mean, like, I feel like it was a one sided friendship for me where I Was, like, listening to her, helping her, giving her advice. Like, even before the reunion, she would call me and say, is there anything you think I should focus on? Or whatever? And. And, you know, I'm a pragmatic person, so I'm like, well, this stuck out to me. And I feel like when they gain, then it's like, we're done. And they'll accuse me of that, but there's no evidence of that. There's, like, evidence the other way. And with my friends, I don't keep score. Like, I'm like, hey, if we're good, we're good. If you're being nice to me, I'm gonna match your energy and be nice back to you. But I think with her, I was so hopeful. Like, at that one reunion, it was like, I'm fighting her battles. I'm everything. And then I'm like, why do you do the switch up? Like, why would you have to weaponize things that I have nothing to do with when I've been, like, good to you? You know? Like, those kind of things are always surprising to me, but it's human nature. And, like, she grew up one way, I grew up another way, and I am one way, and she's another way, but I'm always open.
- [95:13]
Fran
Yeah, well, we'll have to continue to see what. You know, what the.
- [95:17]
Lisa Barlow
She bugs me sometimes. Yeah. Like, big time. Yeah. She knows when she's crossed a line, too. You get a little note.
- [95:24]
Fran
Well, you just know when. Like, you just never know what the way the. All the. All the friendships cycle.
- [95:29]
Lisa Barlow
Ours. It's, like, organically and inorganically changing.
- [95:33]
Fran
Yeah. Yes. We have seen you, obviously, as a mom on the show and with Jack going on a mission and being away for so long, and now I believe he's home.
- [95:45]
Lisa Barlow
He's home.
- [95:46]
Fran
What was that experience like for you.
- [95:48]
Lisa Barlow
As a mom the first couple of months that he was gone? I love being a mom. Like, my kids, like, they need a kidney. They can have them. Like, my eyes, I'll give them to you. I just think it was, like, so hard. You know, when kids are in, like, high school, you don't see him that much. As soon as he got a car, I feel like he would take Henry out. Like, they have, like, their bro dates and, like, brother dates where they go to, like, a specific restaurant, get the same thing. I think it was hard on Henry. It was especially hard on me because I love being a mom. I love. I miss, like, that daily, like, mom fit checks and, like, does this look good? Should I wear this like, let's go to lunch. I missed all of that. I laid in his bed, like, almost every day and cried and made him videos, like, these sappy videos, like, of everything I love about him. I think it was the best thing that could have happened to him. It's hard. Going on a mission is extremely hard, especially with our faith. He gave up two years of his life to do service. You know, you're in a country that's predominantly another religion, and, you know, you're sharing, like, your views. And like, I think for a big thing for me, with Jack going, I'm like, hey, I'm a convert. Remember, like, your grandfather's a convert, your grandmother's a convert, all your aunts and uncles are converts, and we're the only ones in our family that are Mormon. So I'm like, just remember, like, it's a choice and what resonates with some people and their needs are different than others. So for him, I was like, make sure you're just going there and talking about redemption and how, like, every day is a new day and you can start over. And I think it was like, a really great mission for him. He was in a bougie area in Columbia. Like, Jack went from, like, one good lifestyle to another. The missions are hard. You're up at like 5:30 in the morning. There's, like, study involved and, you know, helping people all day long until, like, 11 o', clock, you get one day off. And it's not even a full day, it's a half day. So I think it was great for him. He's fluent in Spanish. I think he learned a lot about culture, people, himself. I mean, he came back a man. He doesn't need me in the same capacity, which is hard, you know, but it's really impressive that he did that. And it's fun to see what he's gonna do next.
- [98:05]
Brianne
How do they feel about watching you on tv or do they not watch?
- [98:09]
Lisa Barlow
They don't care. Like, they hear stuff from their friends. Like, oh, my gosh. Henry had, like, some naughty kid in his friend group, like, draw, like, take a picture of me from the Internet and then do some naughty stuff to the picture. And I had to call him. I was like, get over here right now. We're gonna have a chit chat. I've already sent the picture to your parents. And his, like, parents apologize to me. And I'm like, I'm not mad at him. Like, kids do dumb stuff, but I'm like, he's naughty. He's being naughty.
- [98:34]
Fran
It's a bad egg.
- [98:35]
Lisa Barlow
I think, like, Henry doesn't like when I'm immodest. Like, I'm usually always covered, like, from head to toe. They don't like. They call it dressing single. If you see something on the show, like, there was. I was in a bikini in Palm Springs, and he was like, get that off the Internet now.
- [98:50]
Brianne
Oh, my God.
- [98:51]
Fran
Yeah. Yeah. That is so true.
- [98:53]
Lisa Barlow
But they know who I am, so I think they're very comfortable with everything. I mean, raising them Mormon, too. Like, Henry will be like, it looks like you were drinking on the show, mom. And I'm like, wait, what?
- [99:04]
Brianne
You're like, wait, now I'm getting in trouble with my kids.
- [99:08]
Fran
What is that dynamic like? Because do you kind of feel now, especially with Jack doing a mission, that his faith is so strong and maybe it's different from the rest of the family?
- [99:19]
Lisa Barlow
He's a very non judgmental kid. I mean, he's like, I'm 21 in October. If you guys need help with Vita, I wanna, like, learn the business. I don't think they've ever judged it. We haven't raised them in a way where, like, I'm like, religion's a choice for everybody, no matter what faith you are. I'm like, you can pick and choose what you need. Like, my mom's needs when she was so excited about the missionaries knocking on her door, the Mormon missionaries knocking on her door in New York, her needs at that time were so different than my needs have ever been. And mine are different. So I think with religion, it's supposed to be a positive thing. And he's never been judgmental. He does have a strong faith. I think a lot of people wouldn't even. He doesn't push it on anyone. So I don't even know if they'd know he was Mormon if he didn't have a public platform to showcase it. But I don't know. I hope I'm answering the question, but I just. I think he's like, it's gonna take him a while to adjust to, like, he. Like, there's been some hard times with him being home because I feel like, you know, like, I still look at him as like a little high school boy. And in some ways, like, he left that and he came home and I'm like, get rid of all those clothes. You don't need them. Let's evolve that. And, you know, just how he interacts with me and John, you know, sometimes it's like, wait, like, there's got to be boundaries. Like, how do we put new boundaries in place?
- [100:43]
Fran
It's complicated, definitely. Because I'm sure he thinks like, he's a full grown adult now too.
- [100:48]
Lisa Barlow
Oh yeah, he does.
- [100:49]
Fran
It's like, I lived on my own, I don't need you now. Like, I, I can do all this stuff by myself.
- [100:54]
Lisa Barlow
He says that almost verbatim.
- [100:56]
Brianne
Yeah.
- [100:58]
Fran
You're like, well, we're all still living.
- [101:00]
Lisa Barlow
Here together, so my house.
- [101:03]
Fran
That's very true.
- [101:03]
Lisa Barlow
John's relaxed about it. John will say, don't ask him where he's going, don't ask him when he's coming home. And I'm like, oh my gosh, I'm not going to sleep until you call me back. Like the first week he was home, I called him like 13 times in one night, like, are you okay? Where are you? Blah, blah, blah. And he's like, don't do that. And I'm like, how do I stop? I've stopped, but it's hard.
- [101:24]
Fran
Everything's gonna be okay.
- [101:25]
Lisa Barlow
Yeah, just treat me like a roommate.
- [101:27]
Fran
Yes.
- [101:27]
Brianne
Yes.
- [101:30]
Fran
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Lisa Barlow
I don't know how much more you're gonna learn.
- [103:20]
Fran
Yeah, well, that's all right. So how does it feel now, kind of having to, I guess, defend your marriage? Do you feel like that's what you had to do?
- [103:29]
Lisa Barlow
I feel like I've been defending my marriage every season. Like John and I are in a monogamous relationship. We always have been. Like, I mean that's a big part of our faith too. You like save yourself from marriage and blah, blah, blah. And John was married before me, so obviously, you know, like he's been in a relationship before. I think marriage is beautiful and extremely hard. I think, I think it's. I am very blessed, like, and grateful that I have such a great husband. John has always encouraged me to be me and to like, you know, he'll even say like, I live to make you happy. And he, I know he genuinely means it. Like he's like, I'm not happy if you're not happy. If someone wrongs you, I feel wronged for you. I think when you've been married for 22 years, you definitely, you know, you would change. Like I got married in my twenties, late twenties, John was like late twenties as well. And I think you are one way when you get married and then you're evolving and all the things that you do to make you, you either bring you closer together or creates divide. And we've always worked on being closer together, like our whole marriage and when we don't feel in sync, it doesn't feel good. Like it honestly feels like horrible. And I think, you know, you see that there's a psychic involved. The things he was saying about everything were so spot on and stuff. Like I'd never talked about, John's never talked about from like where John's foot hurts. You know, he's like six four, he's an athlete. Like he's been having this consummate pain in the top part of his foot and he brings that up. Who's the water sign? How do you know John's a Scorpio? Like it was crazy and stuff that like you don't say it loud that you maybe think. And I think just with how I was feeling with my friends and then that coupled with like how I was feeling about like me and John, it like really struck a chord for sure.
- [105:26]
Fran
Yeah, definitely. And I think, you know, we'll see it all play out for sure. But that is something. I do feel like you bring it up every single time.
- [105:35]
Lisa Barlow
I mean, John's not getting jerked off on making out with girls. Like, that was so dumb.
- [105:39]
Brianne
Like, and it's.
- [105:41]
Lisa Barlow
It's also, like, people believe it. Like, some people believe it. Like, it's on YouTube. And I'm like, why would you ever think that? Do we give off that vibe? No. No.
- [105:50]
Brianne
Right. Well, I was gonna ask, is there anything you wish there people knew more context to? And I guess maybe it could be rumors like that where people just believe it or another.
- [106:00]
Lisa Barlow
I'm not a smoker. I have a very low voice. It's probably because I talk a lot. That's.
- [106:05]
Fran
Hey, I heal you on that.
- [106:06]
Lisa Barlow
I tried one, and my kids don't even know this. Now they're gonna know. I tried one cigarette in college, and I was like, do I look French? And my friend is like, no. So I'm like, we're done. We're done. Really?
- [106:17]
Fran
What most people try, and you're from.
- [106:19]
Brianne
The east coast, it looks one way. And then when you're in Paris or something, it looks a lot cooler.
- [106:24]
Lisa Barlow
Exactly. Exactly. But I, like, tried it with my. With my friend and roommate. She was, like, deciding she wanted to smoke, and I was like, I'll try one. And then I'm like, it's not for me. Right. I think I'm very close with my family. I think that. I think the audience can feel that, though. Like, that's not something, like, I need to dispel. We're in a monogamous relationship, though. Like, I love John. He's my person. I'm his person. I said this yesterday, and I probably don't like to say it too much because my mom said this, and then my parents got divorced, but she was like, we're gonna die like the Notebook and, like, holding hands. But I'm like, I fight for my marriage. I, like, work really hard on it. No marriage is easy. Are you guys married now?
- [107:04]
Brianne
We are married.
- [107:04]
Lisa Barlow
So you got it. Like, it's ebbs and flows, and I think you change as a person what you want to change as a person. But I think. I mean, there's so much stuff made up about me by my castmates, but I wish people would. Instead of always trying to find cracks in, like, what I do professionally, I wish they would embrace it and be like, oh, my gosh. I created a marketing company. It's exponential marketing. I don't just do events. I do Full on branding of create products, work with amazing people, bring them to market. Some you don't even know I'm a part of or John's a part of. And then we sell it, Right. Like, I sold a company two years ago when people are like, oh, all she cares about is labels. No, there's no labels on me. If you can figure out what it is, great. But, like, it's not. That doesn't define me. I can, like, I like what I like. I find what I like and I wear that. But, like, I think the, like, idea that I'm a shallow person is kind of annoying because I help a lot of people, I mentor a lot of women, and I think that part's hard. I've been an advocate in our community for a very long time for, you know, like, the LGBTQIA community. My grandfather was gay. I've always been like, let's fight for the LGBTQIA rights. You know, things like that. And I don't do it for show. Like, it's because that's where my heart is. And I think that that one of my friends just brought up something and it made me cry. Like, he has, like, a really funny TikTok page, and he was talking about stuff that I'm. Like, I didn't even know that that, like, impacted him. And that's more important to me and, like, how my kids are with impact for foster care and other groups that don't get a lot of attention, you.
- [108:46]
Brianne
Know, but when you're on reality tv, it's gonna be hard to. To fix every rumor thought.
- [108:52]
Lisa Barlow
Yeah, you can't.
- [108:53]
Brianne
About you.
- [108:54]
Lisa Barlow
It's uncomfortable with people not.
- [108:56]
Fran
Yeah.
- [108:57]
Lisa Barlow
Thinking good things about me anymore.
- [108:59]
Fran
I think there's also a difference between, like, genuinely being shallow and carrying those kinds of moral values and, you know, sometimes just liking nice things.
- [109:12]
Lisa Barlow
Like, you know, like, there's nothing wrong with that.
- [109:14]
Fran
Like, I think sometimes you just like nice things. That doesn't mean just shallow in all aspects of your life. I've said sometimes you don't want to fly economy.
- [109:22]
Brianne
No, I don't.
- [109:23]
Lisa Barlow
No, I don't. I mean, I'm working for a plane. That's what John and I have a goal. Like, we want our own plane. But I think it's also like, all of what you just said, 100% of that. I think one thing is, is if you work hard, the byproduct of hard work is money. And I am like, I think you have to be generous with money. I think you can't be. I even tell my Kids, I'm like, we're not selfish. Don't ever be selfish. You start hoarding it and then you lose it. You know? And I think, like, for me, I think it's. My dad and I were walking through the airport. Like, our flights happened to come in. I was coming in from Miami, he was coming in from London, where our gates were, like, right next to each other. And I had on Christian Louboutin. I can't. I just said that wrong. Christian Louboutin shoes. I was like, wait, the other one? No, it's the Louboutin. Christian Louboutins. And they were like, all embellished. And my dad's like, oh, my gosh, how much did you pay for those? And every person that walked by would be like, love your shoes, girl. Love your shoes. Love those. And I'm like, valuation is subjective and the value I put on these is different than you. It's all about valuation.
- [110:28]
Fran
Very, very true. That is so true. You have been, I think, the queen of some one liners on this franchise. Truly, like, some of these moments, you've given us some of the best reality TV moments. And even just from the trailer, like, even just from the trailer of Angie trying to come for you, and you're like, I've never had a facelift. I just have 12.
- [110:48]
Brianne
Whatever else do you know?
- [110:51]
Lisa Barlow
Do you guys know what the threads are?
- [110:52]
Fran
I don't think I do.
- [110:54]
Lisa Barlow
Threads are magic. When you get to like 40 and you're like, I just want to look a little more singed. And like, I've always been open about it too. I love threads. I think maybe one of the Jenny girls, I do them. And I don't have 12 in both sides of my face. 12 total, six on each side.
- [111:12]
Brianne
Something that goes in your face and holds it.
- [111:14]
Fran
Oh, no.
- [111:14]
Lisa Barlow
It is like the. I mean, it's terrifying. You should watch a video. John watches me get my threads. I love them. They go up my jawline. I don't like Botox and filler. Like, I've always. My mom's very natural. She's 73, looks beautiful, and she, like. East coast humidity keeps you young, but.
- [111:33]
Fran
Oily skin keeps you.
- [111:34]
Lisa Barlow
I don't do any through the center of my face. All perimeter. And she just puts these. There's a surgical thread. They promote collagen.
- [111:42]
Brianne
I'm picturing like an eyebrow thread going into your face. You know they look at your eyebrows.
- [111:48]
Lisa Barlow
Oh, no, honey, they're barbed. You gotta look them up. I get the barbed ones. They're smooth ones. But they don't work. Don't even waste your time with them. But if you get the barbed ones, like, you can't. Like, they're gonna hurt. But I gotta.
- [111:59]
Fran
I gotta look this up.
- [112:03]
Lisa Barlow
I love asmr. Like, I never did before, and now I'm, like, addicted to it.
- [112:07]
Brianne
I love asmr.
- [112:08]
Lisa Barlow
You would love it. It's like. Does this up the sides of your head, but she puts them in the sides of your face. She starts like, I have. I. Like. You can tell when I get them because there's an entry point, and you can usually see it for, like, a week. And it goes up through your skull, and it anchors and on the muscles, and I.
- [112:24]
Brianne
Wait, what do you mean into your. Into your skull?
- [112:27]
Lisa Barlow
The layer between your hair follicles and something else. I'm not a doctor. Like, I'm not saying when. The first time I got him, I was like, okay, I'm going to Miami. I'm great. I was flying with my girlfriend on her plane to Miami. The whole plane ride, I sat there, and I was like, I can't move. And, like, you move, like, a little like this, and it, like, hits something, and you're like. It's like that jolting feeling. I'll be in conversations with people, and I'll turn my head in the first week, and I'm like, oh, that's just like a shock. Like, painful shock.
- [112:56]
Brianne
Like.
- [112:57]
Lisa Barlow
Like jolting shock. But they look amazing. It's a good way to not have toxins in your body. Like, Botox is botulism. You know what I mean? Like, instead of having that by your brain, it's like you're putting a barbed wool. Oh, they're. They use them for surgeries. Not in your brain. In your.
- [113:13]
Fran
Like.
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Brianne
Yeah, it's right there. Yeah, it's.
- [113:17]
Lisa Barlow
You know what, though? They. The first time you get them, they're painful after you do them. I've been doing them since I was 41. And, like, after you do them, you get used to them. You can tell when I have them and when I don't have them. There's also a picture, you know, dispelling icky things about me on the line. There's a guy that posted a video of me last year at Fan Fest, and he's like, look how ugly your face is. The lighting was bad. I have pictures of me everywhere else, unfiltered. And I'm like, I look good. You can watch me on tv.
- [113:43]
Brianne
Sometimes a light can catch somebody in.
- [113:44]
Lisa Barlow
The shadows on their face. Accentuate front camera. Sometimes and like, the threads, when you get old enough to need them.
- [113:52]
Brianne
So how often do you.
- [113:53]
Lisa Barlow
Once a year. If I, you know, if I really want to look, all the time.
- [113:57]
Fran
Do they take it.
- [113:58]
Lisa Barlow
They dissolve in your face. They dissolve and they're like, they're. They use them in surgeries.
- [114:04]
Fran
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
- [114:04]
Lisa Barlow
So they're like surgical threads. They create collagen in your skin so it keeps you lifted longer. Like, so like a, like filler. I don't, like, I'm very anti filler.
- [114:14]
Fran
I think you're five steps ahead. Really? Everyone, you know, like, that's, that's, that's.
- [114:17]
Lisa Barlow
But when I said that, people are.
- [114:18]
Brianne
Like, oh, she's got Botox and filler before.
- [114:20]
Lisa Barlow
Oh, yeah, I've done a little. I probably will get a little Botox right here because I don't wear my readers or glasses and my contacts and I can't get my contacts out because of my nails. And I'm like, nails are a sight. Like, I'm going with the nails.
- [114:33]
Brianne
Nails are sight. Yeah.
- [114:34]
Lisa Barlow
I'm like, we're just not gonna see. Someone can read the menu for me.
- [114:37]
Fran
Yes.
- [114:38]
Lisa Barlow
But, like, I literally, I forgot what the question was. Cause I digress.
- [114:43]
Brianne
I have. You've gotten filler or Botox?
- [114:45]
Lisa Barlow
You know, I don't mind it.
- [114:46]
Fran
Something a little heavy.
- [114:47]
Lisa Barlow
Yeah, I just like my 11s, I think is good. And I think that Botox can drop your eyebrows and make your lids look saggy. So that's a little scary. And when you start really young. I grew up with a natural mom. I don't know if you guys remember me saying this, but, like, she started a co op, and I lived on carob chips and banana chips and, like, dried mango, you know, and it's healthy. And I think if you take good care of your body. You guys are both so beautiful and have insane skin. Like, don't. And you have the east coast humidity on your side. You guys won't need it for a while. But I think it's not a bad thing. But if you overdo Botox, it changes the way you age.
- [115:22]
Fran
I, I, Yeah, I think you absolutely see it.
- [115:25]
Brianne
Talk about that a ton.
- [115:26]
Fran
You see young, you know, especially really young girls doing it now, and it's.
- [115:29]
Brianne
You know, I think we haven't ventured in into that yet.
- [115:32]
Lisa Barlow
How old are you guys? You're young babies.
- [115:34]
Fran
I'm 30. Almost 31. 31 in two weeks.
- [115:37]
Lisa Barlow
It's that east coast humidity.
- [115:38]
Brianne
Yeah, I just turned 20.
- [115:41]
Lisa Barlow
Those are, like, the best years of your life.
- [115:43]
Fran
Yes.
- [115:43]
Lisa Barlow
We did work 28 was impactful. 30. 38 was impactful. 45. It just gets better. And I think now everyone looks prettier and younger forever.
- [115:54]
Fran
That is. That is true.
- [115:55]
Brianne
It is crazy when you look, Oh.
- [115:57]
Lisa Barlow
I got a CO2 laser. Amazing. Amazing.
- [116:00]
Fran
I have seen those.
- [116:01]
Lisa Barlow
You know what? It's. I was a little nervous because, like, I have, like, a lot of fat in my face, so I was terrified that they were gonna. I was gonna lose my fat pads under my eyes. And I was on watch what happens live with Molly Sims, and she's like, don't do it. And she has a beautiful skincare line. So I get and beautiful face, beautiful skin. I get why she told me not to do it, because she's like, it'll take away your barrier. Your barrier will come back. But it really just got rid of all of, like, the texture on the top layer of my face, which was amazing.
- [116:29]
Fran
Yeah.
- [116:29]
Lisa Barlow
Yeah. It's so good. I could talk about this stuff.
- [116:32]
Fran
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- [117:45]
Lisa Barlow
You know what? I love Lisa Milan's vibe. I haven't spent a ton of time with her, but I love her vibe. I think we're very similar. I would have Lisa Milan there. I love all the Lisa's. I love all the Lisa's just a Lisa dinner.
- [117:57]
Brianne
Honestly, they should do something that would.
- [117:59]
Lisa Barlow
Be so fun, like a little girl's triple. I love Marisol. I think she's so witty, like, underground funny, like, so hilarious. Alexi is amazing. I love Emily on the O.C. i think she's just a really good, grounded person, you know, like, they have a fun cast. I. Oh, my gosh. Who am I missing? I feel like there's so many Potomac I like. I think there's great girls on Potomac. I was with Ashley in London last year, and she is very cool. I never thought we would be friends because she's younger. I think about her probably more like Whitney. They're very different. Very different. Giselle's amazing. Karen Huger is great. Welcome home, Karen. The girls on New York are great. I love Erin Lichty. I like her style. She has, like, a really street style. Caroline Radziwill. I think that's how you say her name the right way. Cause I've heard it couple different ways. Her style's really good. I loved when she showed up in, like, a Saint Laurent motorcycle jacket and Levi's.
- [119:02]
Brianne
Gorgeous.
- [119:02]
Fran
See that picture of her at that wedding walking in with Harry Styles.
- [119:06]
Lisa Barlow
Amazing. She's amazing. She has a hot little body, too.
- [119:09]
Fran
Yeah. Yeah, she does.
- [119:10]
Lisa Barlow
But I think, like, Aaron's really cool. Uba's very fun. And, you know, I meet them all through Bravo type events. It's like part of. Of a sorority when you're on Bravo. And so there's so many. They're on the show for a reason. They're cool and are interesting. Well, most of them, yeah. Ones I just named.
- [119:28]
Brianne
Yeah.
- [119:29]
Fran
Well, we're so excited to watch this season. We're so happy that Salt Lake City is back. It really is just. We were saying it before we started top tier. It really is.
- [119:39]
Brianne
And anytime you talk to somebody who maybe doesn't watch a lot of Bravo shows, they always watch Salt Lake City.
- [119:46]
Fran
Or when I'm asked. I love that now when I'm asked, like, people who've never watch Housewives, they like, where to, where to go? I'm like, salt Lake City.
- [119:52]
Brianne
Yeah, it's.
- [119:52]
Fran
Yeah.
- [119:53]
Lisa Barlow
Thank you, guys. So I remember when they announced it at BravoCon and everyone was like, what?
- [119:57]
Brianne
Yeah. We're like, no, this is gonna be interesting.
- [120:01]
Fran
It. It totally worked out. So thank you so much for coming. And everyone make sure you're tuning in to the Salt Lake City premiere. Bravo, Tuesday, September 16th.
- [120:11]
Lisa Barlow
Yes.
- [120:13]
Brianne
All right, that wraps up today's episode of Chicks in the Office. Thank you so much for watching and listening. The best show on earth. Make sure you get the those tickets for the tour. We can't wait to see you guys. We love you and we'll talk to you on Wednesday.
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Jake
Yeah, Jake's in the office.
- [120:26]
Noah
Long time listener, first time caller.
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Jake
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