Clayton Echard Says Gabby Windey’s Bullying Him + ‘The White Lotus’ S3 Finale Reaction

Summary

Podcast Summary: Chicks in the Office – Clayton Echard Says Gabby Windey’s Bullying Him + ‘The White Lotus’ S3 Finale Reaction

Release Date: April 7, 2025

Hosts: Ria and Fran from Barstool Sports' "Chicks in the Office"

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1. Clayton Echard and Gabby Windey: Allegations of Bullying

Discussion Timeframe: [31:07] – [35:43]

Ria and Fran delve into the controversy surrounding Clayton Echard, who has publicly accused Gabby Windey of bullying him. They explore the nature of Gabby's comments about Clayton, particularly focusing on her remarks about his dancing, where she humorously likened his moves to a "toe" from Spy Kids [31:55].

Notable Quotes:

• Fran: "Gabby is just like a jokester, so you know it."
• Ria: "The response from Clayton was very serious. He felt he needed to post a whole response, which shows the impact of her comments."

The hosts emphasize that while Gabby's teasing is rooted in humor and is part of her personality, Clayton perceives it differently, feeling genuinely hurt. They advocate for the right to make light-hearted jokes about exes but acknowledge the seriousness with which Clayton is treating the situation. Fran encourages Clayton to continue his dancing, suggesting that embracing what makes him happy is the best response to bullying.

Speaker Attribution:

• Ria ([31:07])
• Fran ([31:20])

2. The White Lotus Season 3 Finale Reaction

Discussion Timeframe: [70:09] – [91:16]

Ria and Fran provide an in-depth reaction to the Season 3 finale of The White Lotus. They dissect major plot developments, character arcs, and thematic elements, offering their personal ratings and insights.

Key Points:

• Character Development: Fran praises the deep dive into characters, noting that the show focuses more on personal growth and moral dilemmas than on being a traditional murder mystery.
• Plot Execution: Both hosts express mixed feelings about the pacing and resolution of certain storylines, particularly the abruptness of some character exits and the handling of key events.
• Symbolism and Themes: Ria highlights the show's use of symbolism, such as the yin and yang shapes in character interactions, and discusses how these elements enhance the storytelling.
• Finale Impact: While acknowledging the finale's emotional weight, both hosts felt it could have been more extended to provide greater closure.

Notable Quotes:

• Fran: "The dialogue on this show is just fantastic. The writing is so good."
• Ria: "It makes you appreciate it so much more because there's a lot of lessons in it."

Speaker Attribution:

• Ria ([70:09])
• Fran ([70:10])

3. Celebrity Rumors: Zoe Kravitz and Austin Butler

Discussion Timeframe: [22:15] – [30:30]

The hosts explore emerging rumors about Zoe Kravitz and Austin Butler potentially being romantically involved, speculating on the implications for their current projects and personal lives. They reference a rumored collaboration on a crime thriller film directed by Darren Aronofsky, suggesting that on-set chemistry might have sparked off-screen interest.

Key Points:

• Source Reliability: Ria and Fran discuss the credibility of the rumors, noting that they stem from interactions during filming rather than confirmed reports.
• Previous Interactions: They examine past photos and events, such as sightings with Channing Tatum, which seem to contradict the current rumors.
• Potential Impact: The hosts speculate on how a confirmed relationship could influence their professional collaborations and public personas.

Notable Quotes:

• Fran: "This one makes me not buy into it a little bit more because sometimes I feel like they just want to maybe they're stirring up a little pre-movie whispers."
• Ria: "Their chemistry is as good off screen as it is on."

Speaker Attribution:

• Fran ([24:08])
• Ria ([24:16])

4. Additional Pop Culture Topics

Discussion Timeframe: [36:48] – [54:48]

Beyond the primary topics, Ria and Fran touch upon various other pop culture events and celebrity news, including:

• Michelle Williams' Instagram Post: Discussing an incident where Michelle Williams faced discomfort due to a passenger's bare feet in first class [37:30].
• Justin Bieber and Drake Collaboration Rumors: Speculating on the potential for a music collaboration sparked by Justin Bieber's Instagram DM invite and Drake's response [50:38].
• Supplement Company Ritual's Advertisement: Brief mention of Ritual's commitment to clinical trials and their product offerings [24:08].

Notable Quotes:

• Fran: "Taking your shoes and socks off on an airplane should never be allowed."
• Ria: "If you see a foot like that creeping up, I mean, just creeping up around the corner. Oh, no."

Speaker Attribution:

• Fran ([36:48])
• Ria ([36:48])

5. Weekly Watch Report Highlights

Discussion Timeframe: [61:50] – [88:23]

Ria and Fran review and rate various TV shows and movies they have watched recently, providing their opinions and ratings. Highlights include:

• Righteous Gemstones: Praised for Judy’s humor and Walton Goggins' performance [93:29].
• Running Point: Enjoyed for its lightheartedness, rated B- [98:51].
• The White Lotus Season 1: Favored over Season 2 and 3 for character depth and storytelling [86:54].
• Black Bag (Michael Fassbender Movie): Rated A- for its thrilling plot [96:49].
• Other Shows and Movies: Brief mentions of Summer House, Life List, and various documentaries.

Notable Quotes:

• Fran: "It makes you appreciate it so much more because there's a lot of lessons in it."
• Ria: "I really appreciate the writing for it. And then the other part of, like, we all always want something more."

Speaker Attribution:

• Fran ([61:49])
• Ria ([61:50])

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Conclusion

Ria and Fran offer a comprehensive analysis of current pop culture events, focusing on the clash between Clayton Echard and Gabby Windey, and providing their nuanced reactions to The White Lotus Season 3 finale. Their engaging discussions, enriched with personal anecdotes and critical insights, make the episode both informative and entertaining for listeners who wish to stay updated on the latest in entertainment news.

Notable Overall Quotes:

• Ria: "You just have to accept some people are gonna call it cringy for sure."
• Fran: "If you’re not investing in something, then you’re missing out."

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Transcript

[Ria]

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[Fran]

It's chicks in the office with Ria and Fran giving you that Friday energy on a Monday. Happy Monday, everybody. Thank you to everybody who came to our Rum Haven events this past weekend in Florida. Well, Thursday and Friday, Tampa, Fort Lauderdale, we had an absolute blast with you guys. What a. What a lovely little weekend it turned into.

[Ria]

Honestly, it was quite nice.

[Fran]

It was quite nice.

[Ria]

Beautiful weather.

[Fran]

Gorgeous. Just really soaking it in.

[Ria]

Yeah. Especially this time of year in New York. It's just disgusting. Coming home, I was just like, you know, like, it's just like the landing in the rain. Not great when it was 80 degrees and sunny all weekend. I feel like Joe and I always have the same conversation when we're down there and we leave and we're like, gosh, Florida, pretty nice place to live.

[Fran]

Yeah, there's. There's. I mean, it's gorgeous. The weather is unbelievable, but sometimes it's like night. I like a mixture. I like the seasons.

[Ria]

You know, the seasons are fantastic.

[Fran]

You know, it's nice to mix it in.

[Ria]

You say it and then the reality of it would be not as great as what, what you would want. But I feel like once we get past this next week of, like, rainy weather, it'll be perfect.

[Fran]

Yeah, we'll see. Yeah. But we had such a great time at the events with rumhaven, meeting so many of our listeners in person. I love when we meet listeners that are like, I'm a silent Listener. But I'm here. I'm like, well, you show that.

[Ria]

Yeah, yeah.

[Fran]

You know what I mean? Not so silent. I love it. I love to see it. So thank you to everybody who came. We went from Fort Lauderdale to. We went to dinner with my parents, my Aunt Debbie, which was a delicious dinner. And how was the rest of your weekend? Cause I didn't see you after that.

[Ria]

That was so nice. The food was amazing. And it got some leftovers. Tasted great coming back, too.

[Fran]

It was so good.

[Ria]

We did. We drove from Tampa to Fort Lauderdale, so really got to go the full road trip. Which, you know, if any. Take a wild guess at who needed to stop to use the bathroom first.

[Noah]

It was me.

[Ria]

Cause we were just joking. We were like, we're powering through, guys.

[Fran]

We're gonna make it 15 minutes.

[Ria]

We're power. We. You know, one stop. We're doing one stop. It's that and that's it. But, like, let's hit. Let's see how far we can get. 30 minutes.

[Fran]

We left at 8:20 and shout out security guard Jose, who drove us, but we left at 8:20am and we stopped at 8:39. I think the clock was.

[Noah]

I think it was.

[Ria]

No, no, I'll give it to him. It was like 8:50.

[Noah]

When I first brought it up. I said, you know what? I think I can go like, 30 more minutes. So, like, we didn't pull over in that exact moment.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Noah]

Because I. I was like, damn, that was.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Noah]

But I chugged a coffee. Right.

[Ria]

The way he did say with the way the announcement of I need to pee was literally 20 minutes. But he did hold it in.

[Noah]

But, like, I'm like, it's not that bad. It's not the end of the world.

[Fran]

Yeah. And we didn't stop at all after that. That was our one stop.

[Noah]

Yeah. And we got our nice, like, you know, gas station snacks.

[Fran]

Yeah, we did. I enjoyed the drive. I felt like it flew by.

[Ria]

It did.

[Fran]

I tried beef jerky for the first time. I think that was the first time I had beef jerky.

[Noah]

Two full albums. You. I'm in fine line, of course.

[Fran]

Well, of course. What other albums would we play?

[Ria]

I really don't mind beef jerky, but the smell of it. I. I don't love.

[Fran]

All I think of when I hear beef jerky. Montana. Montana.

[Ria]

Yeah. Yeah. Beef jerky.

[Fran]

Yeah. Say what? Say what? Yeah, that's. That's what. I heard it, but I feel like. I feel like I've never actually had it until the other day. It. It tasted how I imagined it would.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Fran]

It tastes how I imagine dog food would taste.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Fran]

Not bad, but not something I am seeking out extra of.

[Ria]

Right. Like, sometimes when you look at a dog treat, it looks like beer. And it smell. It also smells like beef jerky.

[Fran]

Yeah. Like pepperoni. Yeah, exactly. No, it's like one of those things where I'm like, you know.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Fran]

Like, please. I'm not like, oh, my God, I need more of that beef jerky.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Fran]

But.

[Ria]

And he ate it in record time.

[Fran]

He did. It was. It was actually really impressive. Really? We're going to talk about the April Fool's joke. Cause we didn't talk about it on Friday, which was honestly, like, so shocking.

[Ria]

Like, I really.

[Fran]

Because really, right before we got in or right before you walked into the studio, me and Noah were sitting in here and I was like, you're never gonna get me for April Fools. Like, I'm a guard. Da, da, da. And then we sat down to do trivia, and it was in the. Like, you played it off. I don't even. When I was saying, you're never gonna get me, there was no. Even a little glimpse of, like, he's planning anything.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Noah]

No, I was like, it would be too. Yeah, you're right. It would be too obvious.

[Ria]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Noah]

I can't do anything.

[Fran]

Oh, my God. It was disorienting.

[Ria]

No, it. It certainly was.

[Fran]

Just because they were so good. Yeah.

[Ria]

And also, I just feel like trivia, like, he wouldn't have. It never crossed my mind for him to bring the guests. The get, like, the trivia guests into it. And I felt bad because Noah was so adamant that he thought we were gonna get it after, like, five questions. And then.

[Noah]

That is awesome.

[Ria]

And then we would be able to play a normal game. And we didn't. And then we didn't have time to play a normal game with them.

[Fran]

No, we don't.

[Ria]

So they kind of got bamboozled by Noah. Not gonna lie.

[Noah]

They are on the schedule for September, so.

[Ria]

September.

[Fran]

Oh, my God. There's a big rematch coming. We have to win.

[Ria]

Yeah. Just like, I just see Noah be like, don't worry. It'll probably, like, after. They'll. They'll catch on after a few questions, then we'll play a normal game. Did it.

[Fran]

We did not catch on.

[Noah]

But they're cemented in trivia history now.

[Fran]

They are.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Fran]

Forever. And they were.

[Ria]

I literally texted, no, they sold it.

[Fran]

So they were some modern day Meryl Streeps. Seriously, they was a phenomenal actor.

[Noah]

They exceeded all my expectations.

[Ria]

I mean, that's why they sold it. And. And I. I saw myself getting more and more agitated, but in no world was I going to like. I think that's why it was a good. A good prank. Because I was ever gonna call out fans and be like, you guys are fucking cheating. That would have been.

[Fran]

You know, I did that once and it just.

[Ria]

It's just like we were trying to be. You try and be nice, and it's just not.

[Noah]

I mean, they had some backstories that.

[Fran]

I was like, they had a lot.

[Ria]

Of backstories in my head.

[Fran]

I was like, damn. A lot of backstories.

[Ria]

Elaborate backstories. That's why I was like, yeah, I was. I'm like, you guys hack Noah's computer. Like, what's going on?

[Noah]

I saw a lot of people. Listeners said that because we didn't tell them that. They also fell for it.

[Fran]

So, yeah, let me tell you, that was a plus. That was a. That was an April Fool's joke on us and the listeners. That was. That was some a plus right there. How was the rest of your weekends? Because we left you guys in Fort Lauderdale for the rest of the night.

[Ria]

Yeah. We asked you guys to send us updates on how Fort Lauderdale was, and you sent us nothing.

[Fran]

Yeah, I thought it was just.

[Noah]

I thought it was just a general.

[Fran]

Like, no, and we got a promise, like, we'll promise, we'll send it.

[Ria]

Did we not? Like, when we left with your parents, we were like, ah, let us know. Guys are up to.

[Noah]

Oh, I thought it was don't write.

[Ria]

Don't write in the other chat.

[Fran]

Yeah, like, tell us what you guys.

[Noah]

I think it's just more of like a general, like, just include us in because sometimes we'll have our behind the scenes.

[Fran]

Yeah, but we weren't included.

[Noah]

No, but the chat wasn't like, did.

[Fran]

You guys have fun?

[Ria]

That's why we wanted to be updated.

[Noah]

No, it was. It was nice. We went to a nice restaurant, like, right at. By the Water. Right by the hotel.

[Fran]

That's amazing.

[Noah]

It was in the W Hotel.

[Fran]

And that was it. Nobody restaurant, no bars or anything.

[Noah]

We went back, had a nice nightcap. At the hotel.

[Fran]

You didn't want to go to Senor Frogs.

[Noah]

Someone did say to go.

[Ria]

You didn't want to go to go see Ludacris.

[Noah]

We were all like, I don't know, maybe it was the sunburn. Like, we were just like, ah.

[Fran]

I mean, we had a couple days of traveling, tired, but it was nice.

[Noah]

To, you know, hang out.

[Fran]

Noah actually hit me with something so funny in the car. I actually cried laughing because I don't remember this. We went to dinner in Tampa after our meet and greet with Rumhaven. And after dinner, everyone was in, like, a silly, goofy mood. We were having a great time. And Noah's like, nobody's gonna come. Nobody's gonna get a nightcap with me. Like, nobody's gonna come to the bar. And he just kept saying. He's like, nobody's gonna drink. Getting a drink with me. And we were like, no, like, we gotta be up really early. Like, we're. We're. We gotta get on the road. And he just kept. Whatever. It was funny. And then the next day, I'm like, noah, how was the bar? By yourself? And he was like, oh, you know. And I said, well, why didn't you just call it a night like everyone else was calling it a night? And he said, because I get fomo and I'm like, fomo with yourself? There was no one else going to the bar. It was.

[Ria]

Oh, I know.

[Fran]

It was just you.

[Ria]

Is it FOMO of strangers?

[Fran]

Yeah. He said, it's just FOMO of life.

[Noah]

FOMO of life. I feel like people could relate.

[Fran]

No, I can't. No, I. Once you said it, I understood what you meant.

[Noah]

FOMO isn't the right word, but it's like not taking advantage of.

[Fran]

Yes. Yeah, yeah, well, the White Lotus. Yeah, yeah. Gotta take advantage of it. But that's like you were taking advantage of the hotel bar.

[Noah]

Yeah, actually, though, hotel bars, it's like, when are you gonna be in a nice hotel again? No, I don't. Maybe never.

[Fran]

Yeah, no, you're. You're right. But I. I didn't understand it at first when you said. I was like, no one else was there. And then I was like, wait, now, I did.

[Noah]

Join me, just to put that out there. I didn't. I didn't go drink by myself. Not that I have any problem.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Fran]

Enjoying a nice.

[Noah]

I've done that many times.

[Fran]

Drink by yourself. No issue. But that sounds. That sounds nice. A nice dinner after. After the gathering in Fort Lauderdale, we.

[Noah]

Had a chill night.

[Fran]

Made some time with our family over the weekend.

[Ria]

It was lovely.

[Fran]

Yeah, some nice times. How was your weekend?

[Ria]

It was beautiful. It was my grandma's 88th birthday on Sunday, so we had dinner Saturday night. We did brunch on Sunday. Just a lot of. A lot of celebrating. Lovely meals. My aunt. My aunt. Uncle were down as well, one of my cousins. So we got to. Got to enjoy. It was really. It was really a lot of fun. Sat on the beach on Saturday was just stunning. It was really beautiful.

[Fran]

Sounds lovely.

[Ria]

Yeah. And that's really kind of it. We did a White Lotus watch party on Saturday. Saturday, Sunday night. And I had to listen to my dad complain for the first hour of.

[Fran]

The episode about how nothing was happening.

[Ria]

Yeah, he's like, what? Is something gonna happen? So nothing's happening. Another dud. This is a dud dud episode.

[Fran]

I think these are the classic dad takes.

[Ria]

Oh, Every. Every single time. And he was just. Yeah, it was funny to see the reactions, but no, it was good. We had a lot of fun. I mean, Saturday, we went out for a little bit after dinner, and we were at the Grouper, and the basketball was on the tv, and we kind of, like, saw it towards the end, and it was 66, 59 Duke with like a minute and a half left. And we walked away. We said, oh, it's over. Like, they're shooting free throws. Like it's, you know, it's over.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Ria]

So we stopped looking. We just did it. We walked away. We were like, out of the dock. We get into our car, we drive home. We walk in the house. My mom's still awake and she's got the. The end of the game is on the tv. And my mom. My mom looks at us, she goes, man, crazy about Duke losing. And we go, what are you talking about? Duke won. And she was like, no, they didn't. We're like, mom, yeah, they did. She goes, I'm telling you, no, they didn't. And when we looked, we looked at our phone, we're like, oh, my God. We sat on the couch, we had to rewind the TV so we could watch.

[Fran]

Let me tell you, it was insane.

[Ria]

Where were you? At home.

[Fran]

Well, so actually, crazy night out on Saturday. Me, my dad, mom and Aunt Deb went to the casino for three and a half hours. And let me just say, by the way, these three, if you're gonna meet anybody who loves the casino more than. It's not gonna happen. So all day, they're like, all right, we're gonna go to the casino after dinner, right? I'm like, yeah, yeah. Fuck, yeah, I'm there. So we get to the. My dad's like, oh, but you want to watch the Duke game? I said, yeah, but we can go. And we can go right after dinner because we're gonna eat dinner early. I said, we can go at 6:00. And whatever, whatever happens, we'll be home by the end of the game. So we go to the Casino, which, by the way, everyone ventures off on their own, right? Like, it's a huge casino. And they're all like, okay, I'm going. They all know their spots. Okay? These three gamble together a lot. They know that they know their spots. So they split up. I'm a lone wolf. I'm like, all right, well, I'll go find my spot, I guess. I was playing roulette for a long time, and let me tell you, I had a talk to me sign on my head, I think, because every old man in the joint wanted to talk to me.

[Ria]

Yeah, Yeah, I was also. By yourself?

[Fran]

Yes. I actually had a weird moment where a guy was following me around. And I turned around and I just looked at him, and he said, I just want to talk. I said, no, and then he walked away. I think he was like, okay, not the girl. Not the girl I want. I literally went, no. And he just walked away. But besides that, when I was sitting roulette, this old man comes right up to my face, inches away. He goes, you're not smiling. I said. I just looked at him. Like, this straight face, like, please. But someone. Some people talk to you? I find it entertaining. Like, I'll talk to people next to me. Me, people, whatever. They're always some entertaining creature in some form. But the old men, no, no, not creepy old men. But I had another guy next to me, and I hit a number, and I had more money on it than him. And he was like, oh, I had money on that too, but not as much as you, apparently. And he's like, screaming. I'm like. I'm like, I'm sorry, dude. And then he left. He left the table. I was like, okay, sorry. So I actually was having a pretty entertaining time by myself.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Fran]

Besides the guy following me, nobody was happy to hear that. When I went to go find my parents, they were like, what? And I was like, no, I'm good. I'm here. I'm here.

[Ria]

Yeah, no, for sure.

[Fran]

After I, like, got off the roulette table, I passed my dad. My dad's nursing two slot machines. He's got. He's sitting in front of one and he's playing the other one, too. He's tapping two spins at the same time. He sees me and goes, oh, thank God you're here. I need you to sit in this seat. And I was like, all right, I'm on it. Me and my dad sat next to each other at these two slots for maybe an hour and a half, two hours, like, non stop, because we were winning but it was like we were right there. You know, it's just one of those things that, like. And then. And then my dad would be like, okay, cash out, cash out. We'll take that money, and then we're gonna put a little bit more in so we know that we have this money. Like, oh. It was like we were doing mathematics, the whole plan. And he's like. He's like. I could feel it. You're gonna win me this. He's like, you got the tap going. He's like, you're gonna win me this. And I was like, dad, I'm gonna fucking win you this. I did not. Shocker. You know, you're at the casino, it's just. They make you believe. They really.

[Ria]

I really don't, like, fully understand how, like, the slots just confuse me.

[Fran]

It depends which ones you play. And my dad has his one. Like, he'll. He likes to play roulette or blackjack, whatever. But these. These certain slots that have more to them than just, like, Right. The sevens, or whatever. Like, this. This has a little more magic to it. But I was like. Because it kept going up and whatever. And, you know, we didn't. We didn't get what we wanted, of course, but it made us, for an hour and a half, believe that we were going to. So that was fun. But we were watching the game on my phone in between the two slots. I had it down, and I was like, Duke was winning the whole time. So we were like, oh, nice. Okay, cool. Duke's winning. Whatever. My dad's like, oh, shit. I forgot to bet on the game. I was gonna bet on Duke. I was like, oh, whatever. And then we get home. Justin, there's, like, I wanna say, four minutes left in the game. So we were watching the four minutes that were left. All of a sudden, it just goes downhill. Aunt Debbie's calling herself bad luck. She's like, I gotta get out of the room. I gotta get out of the room. I wasn't watching before. Now I'm watching and they're losing. She's like, I'm gonna leave. Then she left.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Fran]

And it just progressively. No, it did. It did not do the trick. It didn't. And it progressively got worse and worse and worse. And my dad was like, oh, well, I'm glad I didn't bet on the game. I was like, oh, yeah. But I was watching. Matt was on Instagram Live. Cause he was at a different. He was at a bachelor party, a different casino, watching it live there. And it was like, you know, the Hopes and dreams just got sucked right out of him.

[Ria]

I couldn't believe what.

[Fran]

And he said, like, there were so many other bachelor parties there and so many other guys that were obviously just, like, screaming at him and, you know, rubbing in his face. And you can imagine that's not gonna make somebody happy after their team just lost. Yeah, that sucks. So, yeah, that did suck. And, you know, I become invested in the last couple minutes of it. You know what I mean? And I was like, damn, that does. That does suck. But there were a lot of happy people out there, you know, a lot of people despised Duke, so I don't know.

[Ria]

Yeah, that is true.

[Fran]

I don't mean. I mean, the, The Jason Isaacs wearing a Duke shirt the entire season with the gun and the. And then last night's episode.

[Ria]

I was gonna say the opening.

[Fran]

He's wearing the Duke shirt and he's popping the pills, and Matt's like, are you fucking serious?

[Ria]

I know. And then I don't know if it's. If that is. If it's the same. I would guess, yes. But when Zion was negotiating with Gary, Greg, whatever, he was like, I went to U of H. And I was like, is U of H Houston? Wait, University of Houston?

[Fran]

Wow.

[Ria]

What else would U of H be?

[Fran]

He said, U of H. Yeah, that is. That is Houston.

[Noah]

Oh, I would. I feel like people would have said something online. I, I, I don't remember why. I don't know why. I thought he said some other college.

[Ria]

I. Yeah, I think U of H is is Houston.

[Fran]

U of H is Houston. But I don't remember if that's what he said that same.

[Ria]

If he did, I picked one. I picked up on it immediately that he was like, I went to U of H. Business school or whatever he was saying to, like, try and say that he was, like, good at negotiating.

[Fran]

Let me tell you. Yeah, that would bet.

[Ria]

Is that crazy?

[Fran]

Yeah, that is really. That is really crazy. Wow.

[Noah]

I mean, oh, people are saying that someone said, u h, Hawaii, but that can't be right.

[Ria]

You. Oh, maybe.

[Fran]

Oh, maybe because she works in Hawaii.

[Ria]

She did. Yeah. But I'm pretty sure he said U.

[Noah]

Of H. Yeah, I do see other people saying that they think it's Houston.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Fran]

Damn.

[Ria]

That's crazy, because it's like, is Belinda from Hawaii or was she just working in Hawaii?

[Fran]

Yeah, you know, that's a good question.

[Ria]

Because I think she was just working in Hawaii.

[Fran]

It really was a crazy. Not foreshadowing for the season of Duke. They should have seen it coming. I mean, right?

[Ria]

Right. They knew they was there. Just shit out of luck after that.

[Fran]

Yeah. But, yeah, that was.

[Ria]

Yeah, that. I know.

[Fran]

I texted you, and I was like, that's tough. I just wrote. And you were like, wait, we didn't see. And I was like, oh, my God.

[Ria]

No, I literally. I. And then I. I wasn't looking at my phone. We were, like, leaving. I. I finally looked at my phone. I had, like, 20 text messages from other group chats and stuff being like, holy. Can't believe that just happened. And I was like, oh, no.

[Fran]

Bad. Just. Just bad.

[Ria]

Oh, no. But, yeah, I know. I. I probably do fall into more of a Duke hater category than I do a Duke lover. I've become a little bit more indifferent, but for many years, it was like a. A passionate Duke is.

[Noah]

Syracuse is, like, rival. When they went to the acc.

[Fran]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that makes sense.

[Ria]

That does make sense. But, yeah. So that national championship is on tonight.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Noah]

But who are you rooting for?

[Ria]

A little bit sadder, I guess. Florida, I think. Florida.

[Noah]

The people who beat Duke?

[Ria]

No, I just like the Florida team.

[Fran]

And it seems like everyone thinks Florida is gonna win, so it's like, all right, well, right.

[Ria]

Right.

[Noah]

Oh, really? I'm the opposite. I'm like, if everyone wants Florida.

[Ria]

I was really excited. I thought Florida Duke would be, like, a really, really great. I mean, I don't know what will happen tonight, obviously. Obviously. It's not like Houston isn't good. They won, you know?

[Fran]

Yeah. I just don't. I'm just, like, not invested.

[Ria]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Noah]

No offense to Houston, but it's like, totally.

[Ria]

Yeah. Yep.

[Fran]

I mean, my brother thought he won.

[Ria]

His bracket, and he didn't, so that was a tough one. He got all excited, started celebrating, and then he was like, oh, actually, no.

[Fran]

Damn, that sucks. I do love, like, a comeback story, though. You know what I mean? Like, watching the Houston team be like, no way. I'm like, oh, that must feel so cool for them, you know?

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Noah]

It's funny because they're all, like, number one seeds, so it's not like.

[Fran]

Yeah, it's not like they're, like, underdogs, so they are all great teams. But, yeah, great weekend. And we're ready to get back into.

[Ria]

The week here, guys.

[Fran]

Let's get. Let's get into it. I want to talk about the White Lotus. So I'm. I'm. I'm really trying to get to the weekly watch, because. Wow. I want to dive into all that, but we do have some topics to talk about. We're going to be talking about some Zoe Kravitz and Austin Butler rumors potentially.

[Ria]

This came out.

[Fran]

Didn't see that one coming. Uh, Michelle Williams, Hilarious Instagram posting about some nasty bare feet on a plane next to her. Gabby, Wendy and Clayton are fighting. The girls are fighting. Yeah, they're fighting. And Justin Bieber posted dm if you want to make music. And it seems like Drake. Yeah. Maybe took the call. Then we have the weekly watch report. So let's get into it. Start off with the topics.

[Ria]

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[Fran]

So these Zoe Kravitz and Austin Butler rumors really came out of nowhere. Although I can see it now. This is one I see way more than I see the Zoe Kravitz and Noah Centineo, which now I'm just thinking, must be a film.

[Ria]

But Zoe Kravitz, we're going purely off aesthetics.

[Fran]

Yeah, like, it's just like. No, like, serious actors. I know Noah Centineo is a serious actor, but not as serious as Austin Butler. I mean, nobody could be as serious as Austin Butler in the world of acting. I thought that there were Rumors about Austin Butler and Madeline Cline Dumois was posting that for a while that Austin Butler and Madeline Klein were seeing each other, which also made sense to me.

[Ria]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Fran]

I don't know. Everybody in Hollywood's just like, yeah, whatever, it makes sense. But the Zoe Kravitz and Austin Butler, I'm like, you know what? I really can see that.

[Ria]

I know, I thought so too. And this is really not coming from anything too substantiated. It's a source told the sun that they have been spending time together over the past few weeks. Are they in a new movie or something together?

[Fran]

Zoe and Austin?

[Ria]

Yeah. Because this is the caught. Caught stealing maybe.

[Fran]

That's why I'm thinking that they make sense together.

[Ria]

Oh, it comes out this summer. They're both in it.

[Fran]

Oh, yeah.

[Ria]

There's an upcoming crime thriller film, Darren Aronofsky starring Austin Butler, Zoe Kravitz, Regina King, Matt Smith, Bad Bunny, Vincent.

[Fran]

Yeah. Okay. So they were kissing on that set. So they must be romantically involved on the set.

[Ria]

Okay. So you know what? This one makes me not buy into it a little bit more because sometimes I feel like they just want. Maybe they're stirring up a little. A little pre movie. Little pre movie whispers, you know, pre release whispers.

[Fran]

Right. And now I am looking at an old Daily mail article from August 2024 of Austin Butler and Zoe Kravitz gazing into each other's eyes, but with Channing Tatum.

[Ria]

Right, right, right.

[Fran]

Joined Zoe Kravitz, your sweet moment with Austin Butler as they join her fiance Channing Tatum at the blink twice after New York City. But they look like. I saw this photo. I said, oh, they're gazing into each other's eyes.

[Ria]

Yeah, yeah.

[Fran]

Then I realized it was with Channing Tatum.

[Ria]

Huh.

[Fran]

So now I'm not quite sure about this. I'm a little bit confused.

[Ria]

Right. The source did say they got on very well and their chemistry is as good off screen as it is on. Austin and Zoe have been keeping it under the radar and aren't putting a label on anything yet. They are both very respectful of their ex partners and are just seeing how things go now.

[Fran]

I don't know about these two. I. I thought maybe there was something, but I think I was going off based on the fact that they were shooting movie together and kissing on set from pictures I saw.

[Ria]

Right. Which does make sense for sure. But maybe there was a little. I feel like they both kind of like an on screen and take it off screen type situation. We know it just worked for Zoe and Channing, obviously. And that didn't work, but. And also it's like, that's very. That's a very nice sentiment for them to be respectful to their exes. And Channing Tatum's out and about with his new girlfriend. No problemo. So.

[Fran]

Right. Yeah.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Fran]

Which I don't know how to feel about that. I'm not dying about this new relationship, but, I mean, what does he care what I think? But I'm just like.

[Ria]

Well, no offense to her. She's just not. She's not a big name.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Ria]

So I think we, like, have always gotten so attached to the big. Like, it was like, oh, the move and the movie. Like, Channing Tatum also was a. Was an off screen on screen guy.

[Fran]

Right.

[Ria]

It was like, you know, Jen Jones on screen, then off screen, Zoe on screen, then off screen.

[Fran]

And didn't he date Ellie Goulding?

[Ria]

Did he?

[Fran]

No, no, not Ellie Goulding. That was Ed Sheeran.

[Ria]

Oh, yes.

[Fran]

Channing Tatum was with. Why am I Jesse?

[Ria]

Jessie.

[Fran]

Jessie.

[Ria]

Jessie J. That was. That's correct. Yes, that is correct.

[Fran]

So I think maybe. No, but I. I also think she looks really young in this model. Yeah, that's also maybe.

[Ria]

Well, that's. She is. She's like 26. So. But that's definitely a factor for sure. But yeah, I think with something like this, it would, it would make sense. But it's interesting because I'm saying that, that they've been hanging around a lot, but I feel like we haven't seen them. So maybe they've been in the shadows. You know, there haven't been a lot of pictures of them.

[Fran]

Yeah. Maybe they've been laying low.

[Ria]

It's been Noah Centineo.

[Fran]

Yeah, right. Noah Centineo has just been the mask this whole time.

[Ria]

Yep.

[Fran]

Which we. We must find out what's going on with this movie now, though, like, if Noah Centineo and Zoe Kravitz are making a movie together. You know, I'm a little bit more interested in that at this point.

[Ria]

Right, right. Well, listen to this, this, this timeline here. They were spotted locking lips on set in October 2024. That's when they were filming the movie. And they. She did call off her engagement. Channing Tatum in October 2024.

[Fran]

O.

[Ria]

Interesting. Maybe there was a little extra something. Something she felt for Austin.

[Fran]

Shoot. Damn. You know, maybe.

[Ria]

Maybe.

[Fran]

Yeah. I don't wanna. I don't wanna say, but it could be.

[Ria]

Yeah. Yep.

[Fran]

Huh.

[Ria]

I know.

[Fran]

So that was in October. Time flies.

[Ria]

Time does fly. I know.

[Fran]

Holy shit.

[Ria]

I know. Yep.

[Fran]

Wow.

[Ria]

Exactly.

[Fran]

Interesting. Well, we'll have to keep an eye out on this situation.

[Ria]

And Austin and Kaia did kind of break up around that same time, too.

[Fran]

They did.

[Ria]

It was later in the year, towards the end of 2024. This says that they broke up. Ah, interesting. If I had glasses on, I'd be.

[Fran]

Pulling them down a little bit and looking up from them.

[Ria]

The wheels are turning.

[Fran]

They are. I feel like a bicycle inside my head spinning real fast.

[Ria]

So we got your. We got our eyes on YouTube.

[Fran]

Yeah, we got our eyes peeled. You crazy kids. Yeah.

[Ria]

Although let me tell you, this makes for a great press run for them when they start promoting this movie.

[Fran]

Let's do it up. Like, now.

[Ria]

We're gonna get one right now. We're gonna get Zoe Kravitz, Austin Butler doing press together. Yeah.

[Fran]

I mean, I'm eating that up for breakfast, lunch, 100.

[Ria]

I really.

[Fran]

And then for my sides, too.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Fran]

Like, I. I'm into it all portions. The more we talk about things sometimes, the more it grows. Like, I'm like, oh, wow, you know, we're really getting to this and I'm really eating it.

[Ria]

No, we built it up that these two are meant to be together right now.

[Fran]

All of a sudden, I'm like, oh, my God. You know, Channing.

[Ria]

Yeah, right. Austin was right in front of the whole time.

[Fran]

The whole time. Oh, my God. Bradley Cooper and Lady Gaga. Well, we're going to keep our eye out on this one. I'm invested. Just like I'm invested in this Clayton and Gabby fighting situation that's going on now. Listen, here's the thing, Gabby. Wendy at this point could say literally anything, and I will buy into it and laugh.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Fran]

Like, I will. I'm like, yes. Yep. You're speaking the truth. Yep. You're hilarious. Like, I. Everything Gabby says, and I think we're all like that right now, you know? So now she's on a heater.

[Ria]

She's on an absolute heater right now.

[Fran]

She is. She's on a heater. She is just fucking hilarious. And you just buy into her and you want to listen to every word she says. She found herself talking a little smack about Clayton, who, let's remember, Gabby was on Clayton season, as was Rachel, and Clayton broke up with the two of them at the same time.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Fran]

Which then prompted them to have their own Bachelorette season that did not end well.

[Ria]

Love them both. The whole thing. You know, he loves them.

[Fran]

The whole thing. Gabby went on to, you know, make fun of Clayton's dancing. Kind of called him Ugly.

[Ria]

Yeah, she did. I believe she said he looked like a toe.

[Noah]

I thought she said toad, but either, either one is insulting.

[Ria]

I. I think maybe toe.

[Fran]

I think toe. Like the, like the toes in Spy Kids.

[Ria]

Yeah, yeah. Now to add on. Yeah.

[Fran]

Just saying.

[Ria]

Look, I think what Gabby's Listen to the whole. I listen to the episode she was on Las Culturistas. They were joking about her time on the Bachelor, the Bachelorette, because she's just such a obviously different person, which is.

[Fran]

An amazing crossover, by the way. Gabby, Wendy on Los Culturistics.

[Ria]

Oh my God, it was fantastic. I was so excited when I saw it.

[Fran]

It's so good.

[Ria]

And they, you know, they were laughing, they were making jokes and yes, some of them are at Clayton's expense.

[Fran]

And who hasn't sent Clayton's videos in their group chat making fun of him?

[Ria]

Right?

[Fran]

But I'm not. But I am.

[Ria]

And look, there, there is the ability for women to make jokes and make fun of their exes should not be taken away from them. You know, that's the tales. All this time. It is joking around with your friends, making fun of your ex.

[Fran]

For sure.

[Ria]

I, you know, I wish him well. Hope he's great.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Ria]

But yeah, I'm gonna make fun of him. He's my ex. Sorry, it's that, you know, maybe that could be a controversial stance.

[Fran]

I don't think it's.

[Ria]

Would hope it's not.

[Fran]

I don't think it's kind of one.

[Noah]

Sided though, you have to admit, like, if Clayton were to say what she said about her.

[Fran]

Well, yes, here's the thing. What we can get to like, if.

[Ria]

But Gabby, that's like Gabby, Gabby says humor. Like, yeah, if. If Clayton all of a sudden, like, it would be so off brand for Clayton that it wouldn't make any sense.

[Fran]

Right? Like, listen, if somebody else other than Gabby gets on and is like, Clayton looks like a toe and I hate his dancing and he's this. Yeah. People are probably gonna be like, yeah, that's. That's mean. You know, they'll probably say it about me, what I just said Thursday. That's mean. But with Gabby, it is her sense of humor.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Fran]

So if I think, if you were to ask Gabby straight up, like, I think she'd be like, I'm kid.

[Ria]

Like, I was just right. Also, Gabby makes fun of herself. She makes fun of her own. She makes fun of everybody and everything. So it's like, I don't know, I just. And, and I just think like the, the response from Clayton was very serious. You know, sit down, address. The camera said she was bullying him. It was. It just. You're gonna lose me a little bit with the bullying on that. In that sense, you know. No, I agree. And also, I want Clayton to keep dancing for, you know, like, it makes him happy. It makes him happy. He loves doing it. Taking him out of his comfort zone. He loves dancing. I see the videos. I watch them. I watch them and. But you know, I'm not. I'm not his ex. So it's a totally different situation.

[Fran]

And we've talked about this before on.

[Ria]

This is probably very looser.

[Fran]

We've talked about this on the, on the show before and I forget who it was with, but it was like, I admire people who put themselves out there and do what they like to do. Even if people think it's cringy or weird or whatever it is. And if that is dancing for Clayton, then he should absolutely do that and keep doing it. It makes him happy. People watch it, people like it. Like, that's fine. On the other side of that, you're gonna have people that do make fun of you. And I'm sure you know that. I mean, I'm sure there's things that we do that or I do that people are like, cringe, but like, you like doing it, so. Right.

[Ria]

You're gonna. You're gonna keep doing it.

[Fran]

You're gonna keep doing it.

[Ria]

You just have to accept that some people are gonna call it cringy for sure.

[Fran]

And like, I think, you know, put yourself out there, do whatever you have to do. Gabby is just like a jokester, so you know it.

[Ria]

And look, we're probably biased. We love Gabby. I think that, yeah, that also is another gonna come to play. We. It's. We can't ad. And I'm sure people listening are like, no, that. That, that was mean and uncomfortable. Totally fair if you feel that way as well. It's just I think in this circumstance and knowing Gabby, like, she does not have. She's not mean spirited. She's right. She's not at all.

[Fran]

It's not coming from an evil place.

[Ria]

Not. It's not. It's not coming from a bullying place. It's like laughing at your ex. When you see your ex doing something cringey on social media and you're laughing with your friends about it being like you. You see the last video he posted, right?

[Fran]

For sure. And I think at the end of the day, Gabby leaving that and not thinking twice about Clayton or what she said about Clayton not even giving it a Second thought. And it's really not coming from a mean. From a mean place.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Fran]

You know, if it's somebody who doesn't really talk about joke, and then all of a sudden they're like, oh, God, these vet. Whatever. It's.

[Ria]

Right. It's gonna make you feel worse because clearly it hurt Clayton's feelings that he felt he needed to, you know, post a whole response to it. But it's just.

[Fran]

Clayton should just make the cringiest dancing videos of all time. Now.

[Ria]

I just think it wasn't that dressed as a tough. You know, he should say that as.

[Noah]

Like, he hasn't already been.

[Fran]

No. But I'm saying that he should just lean in extra hard now.

[Ria]

Yeah. Yeah. Look at the guy. He's gonna keep dancing his little heart out, so.

[Fran]

As he should.

[Ria]

Yep.

[Fran]

You know.

[Ria]

Yep.

[Fran]

If it makes you happy, you know, Clayton, keep doing.

[Ria]

Amen, sister. Keep doing those dancing shoes.

[Fran]

Seriously, tap away.

[Ria]

Yeah, seriously.

[Fran]

Go for. Yep. Moving on. This was hilarious. Michelle Williams was posting on her Instagram that she had somebody with their bare feet putting their feet up next to her, and she was sitting in the first class cabin. And I mean, this is just never. Okay. Like, let's be honest, taking your shoes and socks off on an airplane should never be allowed, even when people come on wearing sandals. First of all, I'm like, aren't your feet cold? You know, I like, oh, whatever. But this.

[Ria]

This.

[Fran]

The hygiene of it all is just despicable.

[Ria]

And the whole. Oh, actually, now I know I'm being distracted because I just opened Instagram to find the poster Michelle, and the first thing to pop up is a dumois post that actually says, this sighting was submitted last Monday. And a breakup email submitted last Thursday was that Gleb and Brooks, plus her whole family were filming. There's been a lot of sightings of them that they may be filming a show. I saw an Us Weekly article last week as well that said that the Nader girls have. Have something going on in that space. But now that there was an email that says, what? I was at an event, and this was from last week. Was that an event hosted by Brooks Nader last night? Huge filming crew. They're filming a show. Everyone signed the releases. Gleb cheated on Brooks and she dumped him yesterday.

[Fran]

Oh, what?

[Ria]

Oh, perfect timing while filming a TV show?

[Fran]

No.

[Ria]

Right?

[Fran]

What? Oh, they're filming a TV show and he just. They just happen to be together. And then he did on Brooke.

[Ria]

When has he even had time to cheat on her? I feel like he's been with her all so much. Been on tour.

[Fran]

Is he.

[Ria]

What a serious. What a cliche.

[Fran]

Is he serious?

[Ria]

Yeah, of course. You know, I wouldn't put anything past that guy, to be honest.

[Fran]

That's actually genuine. How fucking dumb do you have to be? Yeah, yeah, no, seriously, how dumb do you have to do that?

[Ria]

And he had quite the good setup right now. Especially if, you know, these rumors are true. If they are filming a show right now, like, I think a show with them is really gonna pop off. The girls are so funny and so entertaining that I just think like, what a. What a great way for, you know, if Gleb cares about staying relevant, it would be staying on that show.

[Fran]

But what the hell is wrong? Okay, first of all, I mean, I never even bought into their relationship at the begin to begin with. And then people are starting to seem.

[Ria]

Like they were dating.

[Fran]

Seemed like they were really dating. Everyone was like, oh man, I love them, I love them, I love them.

[Ria]

Holiday does this. Family vacations.

[Fran]

Seriously?

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Fran]

What the is wrong with him?

[Ria]

I don't know.

[Fran]

How dumb do you have to be?

[Ria]

I. You got to be pretty.

[Fran]

How self obsessed do you have to be? Yeah, that int insane.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Fran]

Oh my God, what a idiot. Makes her a great TV show though.

[Ria]

I know. We'll see if that's true or not, right? Because this is obviously, this is also just to clarify, this is, you know, anonymous email sent to Dumas. So don't know, don't know for sure because I have seen Gleb on a lot of their socials. Like even the sisters have been posting him a lot too, that he's been around. So I guess we'll see how that plays out. But back to Michelle Williams if that's true.

[Fran]

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[Fran]

Yeah. Behind her.

[Ria]

The person behind her right. Close. And that is, you know, there are many levels to it. And I know people, some people take their. Their shoes off on planes. But if you're barefoot, at least keep your bare foot in your space. You're putting it up into somebody else's space.

[Fran]

You have to keep your feet in your space no matter what that is. That is inhumane behavior.

[Ria]

Look at those toes right there peeking out.

[Fran]

I mean, if I saw someone's toes.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Fran]

Right next to me like that. First of all, I tickle them. Yeah, I tickle them.

[Ria]

Give them a little tickle.

[Fran]

I tickle. And then I'd pop up and say, yeah, just kidding. What the fuck is wrong with you and your little cozies? Get your piggies back to the market.

[Ria]

Seriously.

[Fran]

And out of my space.

[Ria]

Take all five of them back.

[Fran]

Oh, God.

[Ria]

And like there's their foot up like this. And they're really right in people.

[Fran]

Who the hell they think they are.

[Ria]

Now look, I'm in first class.

[Fran]

I could take. Imagine I'm not wearing socks right now. Imagine.

[Ria]

No, put them. Put those away.

[Fran]

I know it feels weird.

[Ria]

Put those away.

[Fran]

I feel naked in front of you right now. I feel like I'm naked.

[Ria]

Even sometimes when I'm when we're recording in the summer and I come in in sandals, I feel uncomfortable.

[Fran]

It feels bare and unusual.

[Ria]

Now, I will say on a long flight, I will take my shoes off, but I'm always in socks. Yes, Always socks. I know. I also. The thought of traveling in a sandal where your feet are out anyway.

[Fran]

Yeah. Cold.

[Ria]

Yuck.

[Fran]

And people are looking at your feet.

[Ria]

Yuck.

[Fran]

I don't want to see your feet. Although I don't have, like, a thing against feet so much in the way that other people do.

[Ria]

No, no.

[Fran]

I don't have a fetish, but I don't have a, like, ew. Feet.

[Ria]

No, I'm not disgusting. People like.

[Fran]

People like, freak out. They're like, oh, I can't be near a foot. And it's like, okay, well, relax. You're just being dramatic. Just how people are dramatic about the word moist. You don't actually hate the word. So let's move along. This, though, is just really psychotic behavior because it shows me that you think you run the world. It's your world. We're all just living in it. And that's. That.

[Ria]

That's like putting it that close.

[Fran]

That's how I feel about when people cross the crosswalk while the red hand is up and you're driving and they're crossing your world.

[Ria]

Yeah, right.

[Fran]

Forget me. It's your world.

[Ria]

So true. So true.

[Fran]

Nobody else lives in it. Sorry.

[Ria]

I was laughing because Michelle has made a lot of comments recently. And by the way, this is Michelle from It Happened a Couple of Times. Rhea, Road Rage, Chiffo.

[Fran]

I roll down the. This is what I do. I roll down the window, I go, your world. Yeah, that's it.

[Ria]

Oh, man. But this is Michelle Williams from Desti's Child, and she did leave it up and has been still talking about it. And honestly, I was cracking up because the comments were really making me laugh. Because she did clarify that she was sitting in the first class cabin and then she said, Seat 3F. F is for feet. And. But then Beyonce's mom, Ms. Tina, did comment. She was like, I'm so sorry that you have to go through that accidentally. Waste some ice cold coke on him. I bet he'll move them.

[Fran]

Then it's also the funny.

[Ria]

Imagine you just, like poured your glass right on that foot.

[Fran]

The funny irony in it, though, was like, I'm so sorry you have to go through that in first class.

[Ria]

Yeah, right.

[Fran]

Gosh, that is just despicable.

[Ria]

Yeah. Yep. But, man, people. People were really. Everyone was laughing.

[Fran]

I mean, it's crazy. You see some crazy shit on flight Sometimes. Let me ask you now, I have a question for you. This is a man question.

[Noah]

Oh, shit.

[Fran]

Yes. It's a gentleman question. I may say. Say you're sitting in the aisle and the row neck. The. You know, the row next to you, there's a woman in the aisle. So picture me and Fran, but I'm you and we're both coming out. Do you let the woman go first or do you try to get out?

[Noah]

You're saying we're in the same.

[Fran]

We're in the same. You're in the same row just across each other. You let the woman go first.

[Noah]

She's in the row behind us.

[Fran]

No, no, obviously you're not gonna let. You're not gonna.

[Ria]

I'm in 13 and she's in 14.

[Noah]

No way.

[Fran]

No. No way. That's an old problem. No, that's.

[Noah]

If you are in a row behind me, you are not getting.

[Fran]

You wait your turn. Yeah, but if you're in the same row, but it's just. You're on the left, she's on the right.

[Noah]

Honestly, I let everyone go in my row.

[Fran]

Like, what's wrong? Oh. Oh, whatever. It's probably crumbs. Oh, my God. It's a piece of my cinnamon raisin bagel. For sure.

[Ria]

Look at that.

[Fran]

Oh, my God, how disgusting. I was saving it for later.

[Ria]

Yeah, classic.

[Fran]

No, that's. That's. Gentlemen. I mean, you should.

[Ria]

As you should.

[Noah]

Yeah. I'll even help you get your stuff if you need it.

[Fran]

Yeah, that's very nice. As you should. The guy next. It was across from me on the row next yesterday. He jumped up immediately. He stand. He's taken up the entire space. I'm like, excuse me. Excuse me. Try to get my bag. Oh, are you getting your bag down? I said, yeah, I'm. I'm trying to get my bag down. Oh, my bad. Stands in his exact same space. I'm like, are you fucking? And then I'm just glaring at him.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Fran]

And then, of course, he went before me.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Fran]

You know, and I'm just like, I now got a little taste of who you are as a person.

[Ria]

Right, right, right.

[Fran]

You won't hold the door for a lady.

[Ria]

Right?

[Fran]

You don't open the car door for anybody. Yeah. That guy, he threw chivalry out the window a long time ago. He said, fuck this. I'm over it.

[Noah]

I purposely don't stand up until, like. Cause I don't want to be that guy. Like, I'll sit there and let everyone else, you know, I got no problem.

[Fran]

With people popping up and get. And grabbing their bags.

[Ria]

You're in.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Noah]

You know like the second that the plane turns off or whatever and everyone.

[Ria]

Oh yeah.

[Noah]

I'm like, I don't want to be part of that.

[Ria]

The woman across the aisle. For me, I've never seen someone move so fast. When the, when the seatbelt sign turned off.

[Fran]

Could be a connecting flight, could be a rush of some sort, you know. But yeah, you know when you fly.

[Ria]

Too, you know when you see a.

[Fran]

Non gentleman out in the wild, it just makes you question everything.

[Ria]

Yeah, it's true.

[Fran]

That's true.

[Ria]

So.

[Fran]

And also behavior like that with your feet.

[Ria]

I almost thought I was gonna have to ask the guy next to me to put the window, the window, what is it called? The window shade.

[Fran]

Shade.

[Ria]

Yes.

[Fran]

But if he get, if he's next to window, it's his call.

[Ria]

Yeah, but in the morning on a, on a 7:30am flight, you put the window shade down. I just think that should be standard.

[Fran]

It should be standard. But he has the window seat. So he gets.

[Ria]

No, but it, I will, I will say something.

[Noah]

Really?

[Ria]

If it's left open. Yeah.

[Noah]

Wow.

[Fran]

Well, we're just not going to pick.

[Noah]

The window seat because they want to look outside.

[Ria]

Yeah, but if it's that when it's.

[Noah]

It'S not like a, it's not like a 10 hour flight like where you're trying to sleep.

[Ria]

Like you were trying to sleep. What are you talking about? I'm trying. It's a 7:30 flight. I'm trying to sleep.

[Fran]

But some people wake up at 6, 7am on their daily life and they don't want to go back to sleep.

[Ria]

I understand that, but I think on a flight, I would say a majority of the people around me were sleeping.

[Fran]

And he was disrupting them.

[Ria]

No, he put it down as soon as the flight took off. It was. No.

[Fran]

Oh yeah. You thought you were gonna have to.

[Ria]

I. Yes, but I, but then if he.

[Noah]

Were to be like, it's my window, I can do whatever I want.

[Fran]

Yeah, yeah.

[Ria]

There's a world where he could say, I want to have it up. I say, okay, yeah.

[Fran]

Damn.

[Ria]

And look, it's probably on me. I should probably bring a eye mask. But I don't like.

[Fran]

Or by the window seat.

[Ria]

Yeah, I'm not, I mean, not my call.

[Fran]

Right, right.

[Ria]

You were flying for work.

[Fran]

Yeah, you're right.

[Ria]

If I, I do like a window seat, but you know, sometimes not my choice.

[Fran]

They, when they, I was putting an aisle as well.

[Ria]

Yeah. When they Were. I don't mind, though, getting flights for us.

[Fran]

I'm a window or aisle.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Fran]

And when I. When I get the aisle, I'm like, oh, I could go to the bathroom whenever I want.

[Noah]

Yeah.

[Fran]

When I went. When I get the window, I'm like, I'm cozy.

[Noah]

But like. Yeah, if you're in the aisle, then you have to, like, get up possibly multiple times for the people.

[Fran]

Yeah. I don't mind, though.

[Ria]

I know I did go back because I was sleep the whole time and as soon as I, like, popped an eye open because the flight attendant was like, wake up.

[Fran]

I.

[Ria]

He, like, got up to go to the bathroom. I was like, off poor. But he was maybe waiting for me to wake up.

[Noah]

Yeah. I'll try to time out if I can, like to be nice, like, if I'll wait for the people next to me. If I'm on the window to go to the bathroom, I'll just follow them so that they don't have to get up.

[Ria]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. But anyway, if I see a foot like that creeping up.

[Fran]

Yes.

[Ria]

I mean, just creeping up around the corner. Oh, no.

[Fran]

Yeah. Don't take your socks off and put your feet next to people's chairs. I mean.

[Ria]

No.

[Fran]

What are we doing?

[Ria]

No.

[Fran]

Your world. Yeah. Last topic here. Justin Bieber posted on his Instagram, if you want to collab, if you want to make music together, DM me. Drake commented that he DM to. Got no reply. Now, I was thinking, for both Justin Bieber and Drake, what they both need right now is each other. They need to come together and make some fucking hits. They. These two right now. If they came together and made an album.

[Ria]

Yeah, I also. Drake was joking.

[Fran]

No, I.

[Ria]

He definitely was.

[Fran]

He definitely was joking. But then it sparked something in me where I thought, wow, if these two came together and made an album, people would go fucking nuts.

[Ria]

Have they made music together?

[Noah]

No, they just did the music video for Pop Star.

[Fran]

Yeah. Just when Justin did the music video.

[Ria]

Drake's never done, like, a song featuring Justin or vice versa.

[Fran]

Not to my knowledge.

[Ria]

Crazy. A couple Canadians, you know, some Canadian love there.

[Noah]

Oh, they did. Right here.

[Ria]

Oh, yeah, right here. That's a Justin Eber song featuring Drake.

[Noah]

Yeah. That was, like, really early on. What year was that?

[Ria]

Yeah. Is that on? What was that on Believe?

[Noah]

No, that was on. Yeah. Believe. Believe 2012. I never heard that.

[Fran]

So that was a long time ago for me. I mean, and Drake was starting, you know, 2011. I would say it was Drake's. You know, that's when he started Coming on the scene. So that was early on. Now, I think if these two made an album together, people would go insane. I'm putting that at that. That, like, Drake should see that comment. I mean, Justin should see that comment and go, I mean, oh, I gotta do something here.

[Ria]

From what we heard of that sample, that he, Dustin, could use Drake's help.

[Fran]

He. He could. And for PR purposes, they could both use each other right now. You know, if they came together and they. And they let all their personal stuff go aside and they were like, let's just make some banging music for the world. People will just love us this summer. If they put out a summer album, Drake and Justin, everyone would be like, what? What's going on? Oh, they're great music, right?

[Ria]

No, you're definitely true. Definitely true. You are right.

[Fran]

I'm true.

[Ria]

You are true. You are true. I'm just trying to think now, like, because, you know, what came on in the car this morning was a little Ed Sheeran and, and. And Justin Bieber, you know, I said.

[Fran]

Like, just wait, what song?

[Ria]

Get back in with the. With the. With the right people.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Ria]

You know, I don't know who. Get back in with the right people.

[Fran]

But they're not flourishing his artistic ability.

[Ria]

No, they're not. No, no, no.

[Fran]

They're not propping him up in the.

[Noah]

Way, you know, who he's got to work with.

[Fran]

And let me say. All right, did you see that slip?

[Ria]

When I'm with my baby?

[Fran]

Oh, I love that song.

[Ria]

I used to always put that on the podcast. The problem is, is he's not, you know, him and Benny will never collaborate again. And he does need Benny.

[Noah]

Maybe he. Maybe he will after that.

[Ria]

Like, it's a great song.

[Fran]

I love that song. Tear up. Did you guys see the slipper rooney that Justin Bieber had? Apparently liking the complex posts of Benny and Selena.

[Ria]

Let me tell you something. I don't know if it's Photoshopped. I feel like any of his social media activity, I feel is Photoshopped.

[Noah]

I don't know.

[Fran]

Even when you see it with your own eyes.

[Noah]

Have you seen his Instagram? That's not Photoshopped.

[Ria]

Yes, but that's what I'm saying. Like, it's so off the rails all the time that when it's like other things, I'm like, I feel like people are taking advantage because they're like, it seems believable, ridiculous on social, that they're like, ooh, I bet everyone's going to believe this now. If I. If, like, fan accounts post It. They want to get views. They. They stir shit up.

[Fran]

Yeah, Noah's looking up a song there.

[Noah]

No, I'm not. I'm not.

[Fran]

I tell you.

[Ria]

Yeah, I don't. Did you guys get all those videos from. On Tik Tok of. I literally did not even see the actual episode, but I think I saw the entire thing via clips on Tick Tock of Benny Blanco with. On some guy's podcast. I don't even know who is going through that.

[Noah]

Guy goes on every podcast. I see him on, like, a million different.

[Ria]

He's been doing a lot, but this one was really cool because it was the first one that I've really seen him, like, deep dive into all the songs. No, but there's so many.

[Fran]

So many Katy Perry songs.

[Ria]

Maroon 5. Like, so many. And he has all these. He has all, like, the demos on his computer. He's like, playing the original version.

[Noah]

I wonder how the artists feel about that because he played, like, the original demo from maroon 5 for, like, animals or whatever the song was. And like, Adam Levine, like, he didn't sound great. Like, he's.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Fran]

I can't believe I've never looked this up before. I've been. I'm like, when I see these videos, I'm like, how old is Benny Blanco? But I've never gotten to look up. He's 37, which he is making these songs. He was so, like, still.

[Ria]

I know, I know, I know. It's just really so impressive. And you go back and, my God, did he really make some bangers for Justin Bieber and Selena, too?

[Fran]

It's.

[Noah]

Have you ever seen that video of Ed Sheeran and Benny Baco on, like, a tour bus making love yourself? Like, just on the bus. No, it's pretty sick.

[Ria]

No, I mean, he said. I forget which song it was maybe Diamonds or, like. Yeah, something that he just made that they made in. In 20 minutes. And. And it was an end of a session for Sia.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Ria]

And she was, like, on her way.

[Fran]

Her car was.

[Ria]

Yeah, her car was 20 minutes away. And they were like, ah, let's just do this. And they, like, made diamonds in 20 minutes. And it was just. It was originally like Sia was singing on it.

[Noah]

I saw Danny Conrad, who works in Chicago, made a funny video where he's, like, pretending to be Benny Blanco, like, as if he made, like, the Star Spangled Banner. It's like he's made every song ever.

[Ria]

Oh, yeah.

[Noah]

He's like, yeah. So we were just like, in the shop working and then like, yeah, he has made Every.

[Ria]

No, it's crazy.

[Fran]

He's made every banger out there.

[Ria]

Justin, like, needs him.

[Fran]

I know, but the thing is, he can never.

[Ria]

Well, no, it's over.

[Fran]

So that's why he needs Drake.

[Ria]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Noah]

But you don't think there's any world where, like, eventually him and Benny, like. Like, you think they actually, like, 0% because he's dating his ex.

[Fran]

I mean, it's.

[Ria]

He's gonna marry her.

[Fran]

He's literally getting married.

[Ria]

What world is Selena like, yeah, babe, you head to the studio and work with Justin.

[Fran]

I think it's because, listen, Yeah. I don't think he likes Justin, has a problem with Benny Blanco getting married to Selena Gomez. I think that they just can never be in each other's paths anymore because of, like, kind of the way the world reacts. If Selena and Justin or Benny or Hate would ever interact with each other, like, I think they just have to not be in each other's worlds.

[Ria]

Yeah, completely. It just opens a whole nother can of worms that none of them need.

[Fran]

You know, and just. And like, does it seem like Justin was having a little bit of a oh, my God, Selena Gomez is marrying Benny Blanco moment? A little bit. It did seem that way a little bit.

[Ria]

100 had to have. 100 had to have.

[Fran]

But I think for Selena, she's like, oh, God, just ignore him.

[Ria]

No. And it's. It's like it. And even from Haley's standpoint, I think for everybody, it's just easier. It's like you said, it's open a can of worms. If they. If there was rumors that Justin and Benny were working together, all of a sudden, the girls get dragged into it. It's like this. Then the story becomes, oh, just is not over Selena. He's still. He's still trying to be close to her. Like, Haley loses again. Like, yeah, right.

[Fran]

He needs Benny.

[Ria]

Yeah. Like, the same narrative that. The same, like, tired narrative would just continue forever. So it's just. I really. It'll just never happen. Even though musically it would be great for everybody.

[Fran]

It would be. It would be. But unfortunately, I don't think that's ever gonna happen. And I don't know if Drake, Selena.

[Ria]

Gets on the other end. Selena gets the full.

[Fran]

Right. The Benny Wankle treatment.

[Ria]

Full plus of not only marrying him, but he made her entire new album. And it's fire. So that's, you know, it's. That's what he's missing out on. It's like, oh, this is maybe one of the better Selena albums. And, well, it's no coincidence.

[Fran]

Right. Good work.

[Ria]

Collaboration with Benny.

[Fran]

Now, I don't think there's actually a possibility that Drake and Justin will make music together, but if so, you know, just put it out there.

[Ria]

Yeah, yeah.

[Fran]

And it would be, you know, who, who's.

[Ria]

There was a lot of people in the comments. A lot of people in the comments who are. Who are either rooting for that or pushing for themselves, which is super fair. I would, too.

[Fran]

Right.

[Ria]

You know, I mean, I was musically inclined.

[Fran]

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[Noah]

You know that we lost the whole jingle.

[Fran]

I know. Because midway I thought, yeah, I can't do it. Well, that guy's probably looking for work Monday. Weekly on Monday. Weekly watch poor on Monday. Weekly watch poor on Monday. Yeah, no, the composer's out now, so if he wants to come here and do the jingle for week watchboard, you know, we probably should just record it and play it every week.

[Noah]

No, I think. I think it's better.

[Fran]

It's charming.

[Noah]

Like, what mood is she in this week?

[Ria]

Right? That's true.

[Fran]

Yeah. Okay, well, listen, I mean, I want to talk about White Lotus right off the bat, but I think I got to get the other stuff out of the way because we're going to spend a while talking about it. I assume. I had to watch anyone but you on the plane yesterday for a second time. I just had to. I saw it the opportunity was there and man, I loved it even better the second time. I really did. I think it's a great movie. I missed something. So I was like watching on the plane. I mean, both times I watched was on a plane now, but I paid attention a lot more this time and I even liked it the first time. But this time I really was locked in. And I think it was partially because, you know, now I'm rooting for them as a couple. But God, what a film.

[Ria]

It's a great movie.

[Fran]

It's really a great movie. I'm going to give it an A. Yep.

[Ria]

Warm hearted, lots of love.

[Noah]

You probably didn't even give it an 8.

[Fran]

I don't think so. But second watch, I really made it better for her. Yeah. Really?

[Noah]

Well, I think now there's more.

[Fran]

Like I was like crying at it. I was like, oh my God. Yeah, I guess I cried a lot of things. But whatever. Love it. Summer House.

[Ria]

We watched on the plane.

[Fran]

We did watch on the plane live.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Fran]

Television on the plane.

[Ria]

Um, it's a, you know, the, the, the toe thing is just really being amped up into like a big thing.

[Fran]

It is just a Solomon storyline.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Fran]

I don't hate it like a lot of other people do.

[Ria]

I think people.

[Fran]

No, I think people despise it. But I'm also not totally interested. Like. Yeah, it's running a little long for me.

[Ria]

Yeah. And I think it's very fair to say that Jesse maybe sold Lexi a little bit of a different. A little bit of a different story, you know?

[Fran]

Right.

[Ria]

I think when it was just him and Lexi, he was so obsessed with her, telling her everything she wanted to hear and then maybe not act in that way when Lexi wasn't around. Obviously we saw what, what was, what was happening for some of these moments.

[Fran]

And I think if it was any of the other girls. Okay, so say Sierra and Lexi are switched right now and Ciara is the one becoming exclusive with Jesse. And he doesn't tell Ciara about the toe thing but tells her he wants to be exclusive and then sleeps with her that night. People would be losing their goddamn minds.

[Ria]

Right.

[Fran]

Because they would be like, that's disrespectful. They would have a different reaction now I think because Lexi is new and they're not as close with her, there's not so much of a large reaction to it, which, you know, they're not that close with her. So you are more protective of your other friends. But it's still not right. Like he chose to keep things from her that he knew would upset her and then was able to sleep with her. And she was clearly hurt by that. She. You know, you can feel however you want to feel about Lexi if you think she's interesting, uninteresting, whatever. It is a little sad when someone is very honest about how they are in relationships and the way they work in that sense, and then it kind of gets, like, taken advantage of. It is. It is disappointing to see. Overall, I'll give it, like, a circumstance. Plus, I mean, I. I find it entertaining every week. It's just. Nothing crazy is really happening.

[Ria]

Yeah. I don't care for, like, the Lindsay and Carl stuff, too. I don't know what it is. It's just like. I know it wasn't that long ago, because it really wasn't, but it just feels so far removed now just from where they are in their lives, because Lindsay's having.

[Fran]

She got pregnant pretty quickly after is having a baby, so it's like, just move on.

[Ria]

So I was just like, it's. Seeing her get upset about a potential DM from this girl. I'm just like, I don't. And apparently that girl did share that she sent the DM in October, and it wasn't August. I don't know.

[Noah]

So.

[Ria]

And. And I. Sometimes I'm like, what's. What's Gabby doing? You know, because sometimes I feel like she really kind of, like, gets Lindsay riled up a little bit when maybe she needs the opposite.

[Fran]

Yeah. More. She needs to be more like, listen, he's an. Who cares? You moved on with your life. You have this exciting new chapter. Like, kind of like, give her that more energy rather than like a. Oh, Carl was a cheater.

[Ria]

Yeah, he sent that. Oh, he totally responded. That dm. It was August, blah, blah, Whatever was going on. I don't know. So. Yeah. That's fair, though, for Summer house.

[Fran]

Yeah. Southern charm reunion, part two. Part two. I mean, did we ever think we'd be in a place. And maybe I'm in the minority here, that we feel bad for Austin Kroll because I felt a little sad for him. Not gonna lie. I feel like Craig was clearly reacting in a place of being hurt by his relationship and everything and the way that he was just like, well, we just won't be friends to Austin. I was like, it kind of just feels like it's his way or, like, whatever. And I felt bad for Austin in that moment. And like Austin was saying when he sat here with us, I do feel like Austin has grown a bit. He doesn't Talk about how much he's grown, but I think you could see a little bit how he's grown. So I felt a little sad for him in the moments with. With the Craig situation. It wasn't a good part two for Craig, let's be honest. Yeah. And I. And I think, you know, it came off of. It was like, kind of around the time of everything happening, and I think he was probably in. In a not so great spot.

[Ria]

100.

[Fran]

And the lawyer lying. The lawyer lying thing was incredibly bizarre because he said he didn't ever lied on camera. And then they showed it, and then he still was like, well, I didn't. And it was like, no, you clearly lied. And Andy kind of called him out for that, and he seemed like he was in a. In a weird spot, and I didn't like watching it.

[Ria]

Yeah, I don't think that. I don't think that was the best version.

[Fran]

It wasn't a good showing. Yeah.

[Ria]

I don't think that was the best version of Craig at all. And like you said, definitely going through a lot in that moment. And we know when they filmed that reunion, there's just a lot of outside. A lot of outside stuff going on, too. And I. And I think that that was a big struggle for him. He seemed a little checked out. When you're having those conversations, and as a friend, that's one of the most frustrating things, is when you're maybe arguing with a friend or you just want to, you know, address certain types of behavior, and you're just. You're just saying how you feel. You're just trying to explain to that person how you feel. Austin's just trying to explain to Craig how he feels.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Ria]

And when your friend's reaction is not hearing you and. And trying to understand, it's like the. You instead you get. Well, if you think about that. If you think that about me, then maybe we shouldn't be friends.

[Fran]

Right. If you.

[Ria]

Then. If you think that about me, then maybe we're just not friends.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Ria]

And you're like, no, I'm coming from a place because I am your friend, and I want to help. Yeah. And when you just, like, dismiss me, like, actually, then. Then let's not be friends. You're like, oh, see, like, this is why I don't bring anything up because I'm afraid of how you're gonna react.

[Fran]

Right. And, like, no apology from Craig or anything.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Fran]

Craig could just be like, oh, I'm sorry I made you feel that way. And. Yeah, you know, whatever. And there's and then if. And then if Austin is still difficult, then maybe, you know, don't be. But at this point, it was just like an immediate reaction. And then the only time I've ever agreed with Shep really was he was like, you know, Craig, like, you were going through, like, the Adderall and the addiction. Like, it's okay to say that you lied. Like, which he was right. Like, it's okay to be like, you know, I did lie about that. And you know what? Everyone knows I was not a good place. I was addicted. Adderall, I was doing all these things. I was lying about that. It's okay to own those things. People should 100 be able to make mistakes and change them and grow from them as years go on. Or else. I mean, everybody has like. Or else would. Everyone would be the same all the time. That's not. That's no good either. So, like, if Craig was sitting there being like, yeah, you're right. Like, I was in a bad place when I was lying during those times and that, you know, I. I try not to be that person anymore, like, totally different, but instead, he just continues to lie. It just wasn't a good showing. And it really wasn't a good showing. Yes. But I think it was around that time of, you know, he was going through.

[Ria]

Yeah. I think it was break up and so many different things, so many levels to it.

[Fran]

But I'll give. I'll give that reunion a C plus as well.

[Ria]

Yeah. He was on the defense a little bit too much, which is tough. And I don't blame him because it is hard as well when you're with a group of people and you. And.

[Fran]

Right.

[Ria]

You're gonna get defensive because you feel like everybody is coming at you a little bit and.

[Fran]

And everyone's saying they're every scared, like.

[Ria]

Yeah, exactly. They're like, oh, we're all scared of you. And then I'd be like, oh, like, come on, guys. Really?

[Fran]

Right. You're like, now. Okay, now you're making me seem like a monster. Yeah. Scared of me.

[Ria]

Yep.

[Fran]

So there is that point of, like, getting really defensive.

[Ria]

Yep.

[Fran]

And, you know, when everyone's gaining up on you, but then you also have to own up.

[Ria]

Yeah. No, I wish he did handle just a little differently.

[Fran]

Yeah. Just so. Yeah. Just a little bit better, but, you know, going through a hard time, so. And then the White Lotus. So the finale was Sunday night. Everybody was waiting for it, waiting for it, amping up all the theories, going on and on about it. And I'm still digesting it. I feel. I feel like I'm still taking it in.

[Ria]

That's fair.

[Fran]

I don't even know where to begin. I. I guess I don't know where to begin.

[Ria]

Yeah. Well, first of all, I guess we'll stop a spoiler warning if you haven't watched it yet, because I know, which is crazy to me, because this was the one thing that I'm like, if you're not watching this on Sunday night, you're toast for sure. You can't open social media. It's literally everywhere.

[Fran]

Even from the actors themselves.

[Ria]

Exactly. They're posting everything. I. I don't know. I go back and forth because I think that the show, like, you, like the finale, it was an hour and a half. So we're. You're. You hear hour and a half, and you're waiting for, like, these big moments to happen. And I don't know if maybe everyone's expectations are so high, but having it be like a full hour into the episode, really, even almost a little bit more before there was. Yeah, I was like, oh, God, I don't know. I just want, like. I think they did tie up a lot of stories, storylines. I understand that. But at the same time, I felt that there could have been so much more at the end with everybody. Like, all of a sudden, it was just like, people died. Now everybody's left the resort all in, like, 10 minutes.

[Fran]

Right. And I think I actually have come around greatly on the fact that I got so attached to these characters more than I even thought that I was originally. And I really appreciate the show for what it is, rather than trying to make it to be something else in my head. Like, this show is really. It's a deep dive into these characters with a murder on the side. It is not supposed to be really a murder mystery show. It's supposed to be, I think, a deep dive on people and rich people and this life rather than a whodunit type of thing. It just has a murder. It just has a little murder sprinkled into it. And I think when you think of it like that, you appreciate it a lot more because there's a lot of complaints about, like, well, nothing happened with these people. Nothing happened with that. Well, no, there are lessons, I think, in between all of it. Like, the three women right there. It's like, okay, well, their storyline was wrapped up because it's three best friends who grew up together. They're gonna talk shit about each other. They're gonna talk behind each other's back at the end of the Day. What happened? They're all still friends and they all came together.

[Noah]

And it is funny, though, that when the shooting happens, she ran away immediately. Like, did you see that?

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Noah]

I forget their names, but she, like, left her friends to, like, why they all ran. No, no. But, like, I think it was, like, symbolic of, like, she was like, they're like, we love each other, and then she runs away immediately. Like, doesn't even think about her friends.

[Ria]

I feel like all three of them ran away pretty fast.

[Fran]

Yeah, I thought they were.

[Noah]

She was like, which one are you.

[Ria]

Even saying ran away from?

[Fran]

Jacqueline? The.

[Noah]

The one who was crying, like, no, no.

[Fran]

Oh, Lori.

[Noah]

Yeah.

[Ria]

Oh, I don't. I mean, they all pick up on that. Looks pretty shocked. And all started running.

[Fran]

Yeah. But, yeah, I feel like that storyline was tied up nicely because it was sort of just, you know, like, I think there's less. Isn't Lessons in between all of them rather than, like, nothing happened here.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Fran]

And I grew to really love these characters. Like, I, you know, I think. Was it my favorite season? No. But I think I got more attached to these characters for some reason, and I want to see more of them. I mean, the family. I think people obviously wanted to see what happens when they find out they're poor, but that's not the kind of show that the White Lotus is. They don't really give the. The go home and find out.

[Noah]

However, I think it was more about the anxiety.

[Fran]

Right. It's like a. And then it leaves you wondering kind of how they feel. But, you know, do you. Do I wish there was a little more in the first hour? Yeah. But I think the more you digest it and look back on it, you. You just think more about the characters and the lessons and, you know, the deep dive into that rather than like the action pack. I mean, the dialogue on this show, I think, is just fantastic. Like, the writing is so good, but it's not. I think people want. And I don't know how to word this correctly, because I think Mike White is a genius, but I think people want him to be even more of a genius than he actually is. Where they're like, they want him to come up with something that nobody could possibly fathom ever remotely happening or nobody could ever think of this theory.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Fran]

When you have people speculating every minute, every hour of the day of this show, somebody's gonna be right. There's theories all over the place. It's just now with the way that people. The conversation around TV with tick tock, Twitter, whatever, there's Just so much more conversation to be had and people throwing their theories, whatever that, like, yeah, somebody eventually is going to come up with something. There are still surprises, but, like, there's going to be something that people get right. And, like, I think they expect Mike White to post something out of his ass that no one could ever possibly pull from their brains. And it's like, well, it's. He's trying to make it a little bit more realistic than you think. I don't think he's trying to do these major, like, plot twists. There's a lot of foreshadowing in the show that people are like, oh, spoiler, this theory spoiled. No, there was. There was actually foreshadowing in the show. The amount of times Chelsea was like, oh, bad things happen in threes. And, you know, all these things she was saying, the snake bite and all that, like, when you look back, you're like, oh, that was all like a. You know.

[Ria]

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[Fran]

Like, I genuinely was losing my mind laughing. Yeah, oh, my God, he's gonna kill them all.

[Ria]

And. But then, I don't know, there was there's just a couple things with that, with the family that just fell a little short for me in the sense that not. And I know everyone's like, oh, I want. I really wanted to know what happened to them. And, like, I get it. That's not really the point. But I know everyone kind of has that desire. But I don't know if it was like. Because, like you said, because there's so many people talking about it, and if you open tick tock, there's 9 million theories, and everybody's saying, oh, I think this is gonna happen. I think this is gonna happen. That then when you watch it and it does happen, you're kind of like, oh, like, yeah, he did take the fruit and the whole thing. And of course, obviously, you know, whatever. What happened with Lachlan, it's like, you didn't really see that coming and whatever. But I felt like there was so many, like, that just felt a little disorganized to me in the sense that, like, I guess it was supposed to maybe, but. Oh, the fruit. They all drank it, but then they were fine. But then they weren't supposed to be fine. It was only a sip. But then maybe he drank more, but he was still fine.

[Fran]

Right.

[Ria]

So I was like, I don't know. I just. I didn't. I didn't necessarily love the way that. That all wrapped up for them. The rip one, I thought was totally going to happen. What?

[Noah]

I felt that way about everything. I was just like. Even when Chelsea got shot, I'm like. Like, oh. Like, it just seemed like, oh, let's just wrap this up somehow. Like, she gets shot because of him. Yeah.

[Ria]

But I think that that was. That one was way less. That one was. That was. I felt that one was way more symbolic.

[Fran]

Yeah. That one tied into the whole story, though.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Fran]

Chelsea, like.

[Noah]

Yeah.

[Fran]

Only thing she ever thought about was Rick. Like, her tunnel vision was on Rick. And she put this guy before herself who really didn't show he cared about her until the final moments when she died. I think showed a lot where it's also, I think, a lesson in, like, if you can let go of the past, you know, if you hold on to the past, it's probably. It's gonna hurt you.

[Noah]

I thought the Belinda thing was good, though, that she did exactly what Jennifer Coolidge did.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Noah]

She ends up like Tanya, and it's like, yeah, people will just take the money.

[Fran]

Let's just throw it out there. Her son, one of the worst acting.

[Ria]

Oh, really?

[Fran]

Oh, my God. I thought, like, I actually Was cracking up because I, while I was watching, I was like, man, I think he's a horrible actor. But at the same time, then, because, like, people are like, Disney Channel actor. I do think, though, part of it is, like, he's a sophomore in college who's studying business. So he is, like, very, like, cringy, corny, like.

[Noah]

Cause I thought he was trying to act like his character was trying to.

[Fran]

Act older and like a business guy, but still. So I think it was part of his character, but kind of made it seem like he was a bad actor. But it was really because he was like a cringy sophomore in college.

[Ria]

Right.

[Fran]

Studying business.

[Ria]

Yeah, he didn't bother me at all, really. I thought that that made a lot of sense. And yeah, she. That's a tough one for Belinda. She pulled. It's exactly. It's. It just goes back to, like, what. What money makes people do and power and the same kind of thing with guy talking Mook. Like, she clearly wanted him to, like, get that promotion and be more important. And of course, when that. When that happens, money is involved. Now you're, you know, you're gonna get a raise. Like, all of a sudden you're her head of security. Like, you're.

[Noah]

That was funny when he was driving.

[Ria]

You're going to have the, you know, more money. And I. I feel like that was just another one where it was. She was pushing him all season to, you know, oh, you know, get care more and get, like, tougher and like, oh, you have a gun now. You can shoot the gun and all these things. And when he got the opportunity to shoot Rick, he did and got rewarded for it.

[Fran]

Yeah. I thought that Mook was going to have a bigger role because she's Lisa.

[Ria]

Right.

[Fran]

And I was like, oh, no, no, no. Bigger role. Yeah, it really was kind of a smaller role.

[Ria]

She was just the motivating factor for him, I think, to really lose a lot of the moral compass that he had had. And maybe like, this job wasn't for him, but he is so infatuated with this girl that he's gonna do whatever it takes, including murder.

[Fran]

Yeah. I thought the robbers were sort of plain that. That it kind of turned out.

[Ria]

Yeah, that one ended up like.

[Fran]

I was like, really? Nothing's going to.

[Noah]

They need the money.

[Fran]

Lori's not going to tell her friends about the stolen jewelry.

[Ria]

I know. Which is why, I guess it's just like another thing of, like, the money. Right. It's like they. A lot of times it feels like on White Lotus, Mike White Goes with the path of, like, those that are devious and, like, morally compromised things work out for them. And it's like, oh, we'll watch these guys who have no money rob the hotel, but they get away with it.

[Fran]

Right. And it kind of just felt like I thought something was bigger was gonna happen.

[Noah]

Even Sam Rockwell. Like, I loved him, and I love Sam Rockwell, but a lot of I'm like, oh, like, what was the point of all that? Like, it was just. He just partied with him for, like, a night.

[Fran]

Yeah. I don't think that Rick's dad had the big. That maybe they thought it was gonna have.

[Ria]

Like, I really don't think anyone predicted, like, you knew, but I just didn'.

[Fran]

Rick being upset about that his dad was killed. Like, I don't know why, because I felt like it was just had nothing. Like, I don't know why that whole storyline, to me, I was like, I just don't think I really care about Rick's dad being killed, to be completely honest, and how he's upset about it. I love Chelsea as a character a lot. And, you know, how she talked to Rick and whatever I thought had a lot of meaning behind it and sax and then I wanted to see. And this is the other thing that you have to accept, like, as this show is, like, you're not going to see the reactions you want to see. Would we have loved to have seen how Saxon reacts to Chelsea's death? Yes. Like, did he even know she died? Like, we just see them on the boat. We don't even know she died. But I thought Saxon, you know, those moments when he's looking back on Chelsea just, like, the facial acting, you know, the more the reactionary rather than, like, the actual acting. And I mean, how sad that Lachlan it really. And I read this in the article that they did with the Hollywood Reporter. Mike White was like, yeah, people think this season's about incest. It's not. It's really just about a kid who, like, wants to do the things that his sip. That he thinks his family loves. And one of those things is Saxon. So he's talking about sex and whatever. So, like, Lachlan thought, oh, like, my brother will like me if I'm, you know, get sexy with him. And, like, he literally said to his mother, like, like, no, I just want to, like, yeah, people.

[Noah]

And then he wants to stay with her. And then she's like, actually, it. I don't want to stay.

[Fran]

Yeah. So he just, like, wants to do what his sibling. He just wants to be accepted by his siblings, which actually was just sad because, like, for a little bit, you know, you thought that maybe he was just a freak, but he's. He really just wants to be accepted.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Fran]

I felt so sad when he was gonna die. I was like, oh, my God. This is actually really sad.

[Noah]

That was so funny when Piper was saying, like, I, like, I'm superficial, like, I can't do it, and the mom.

[Ria]

Was just like, oh, that was like, my favorite part. I was cracking up. Her. She is just. She was so good. Soccer Posey was really so good, but. Yeah. And Victoria, she's just like, yeah. She like every superficial thing out of her mouth, she was like, oh, amazing. Yeah. It's like, oh, and the food. Oh, yeah. You. You can't eat that food.

[Fran]

No. She's like, we have to take advantage of it.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Fran]

And it takes her shopping. Yeah. She's like, if it makes you happy, get it. Like, it's just that whole thing was so good.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Fran]

I mean, there's a lot to be desired, but I feel like we all just have to accept that that's. That's what this show is now. Because now going to the third season, like, okay, in the second season, some of the characters come back. So you're like, oh, we get to see some of the characters.

[Ria]

Right.

[Fran]

So then in the third season, oh, well, you know, will we see some of those? We just have to accept that once this season's done, we have to say goodbye to these characters, and if they come back, that's great, and we get to see some of those characters again. But it's kind of like we have to wipe our hands clean. I mean, thinking back to the first season, you're like, like, whatever happened? Did they get divorced? They knock a divorce?

[Ria]

No.

[Fran]

You don't know.

[Ria]

You do feel that way.

[Fran]

You feel that way after every season ends, but then you think somehow it's gonna change. It's not. It's kind of the same format every time. You don't get to see those reactions that you want to see.

[Ria]

It's in with. Within the time limit of the vacation.

[Fran]

Right.

[Ria]

It's like, oh, you don't.

[Fran]

That's what happens when they go back home.

[Ria]

You know what's going on when they're not on the vacation. Right.

[Fran]

It's not. That's not the point of the show.

[Ria]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Fran]

I think there's a lot to be desired, but also some.

[Ria]

I know. I'm so torn. Like, it's like, yeah, I appreciate it a lot, and I I think it's great and I think the show is so well done, so well written. But at the same time, like, the episode did end and I was like. I wasn't like, wow, that was amazing.

[Fran]

Right. I kind of just went right to bed.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Noah]

Definitely my least favorite.

[Fran]

Yeah. And yeah, I just. I feel like I got so attached to these characters and I think that was another part of it where I'm like, I'm so attached to these characters, but it's not my favorite season. But I want. I have a desire to know them more and want to see more of them. But it is a back. It's a. It's a back and forth in the head. It's like accepting the show for what it is and appreciating the writing for it. And then the other part of, like, we all always want, like, something more. We all want something juicier or something big, but it is what it is sort of thing. I think there's just a lot of lessons in. And I think the more you deep dive and I think it ages well. I think the White Lotus really ages better than the initial reaction that first night.

[Ria]

Definitely. And it goes into when you. What we've been saying all season two, after we watch an episode, it's. You watch the episode and then what has made the show so great is there was such a discourse about it online. But because there was such a great discourse about it, you. Everyone was like, oh, all these symbols, all these things are adding up. So it wasn't quite that big shock. But at the same time, you see all that symbolism and it is really cool and it is. Is art and it is very impressive. And even I was watching a tick tock before of some guy breaking it down of just the difference between the. The scene of the kids on the boat on the way there and how they're all sitting verse the kids on the boat on the way back and how they're sitting and when Rick and Chelsea fell into the water, that they were literally shaped like the yin and yang. And she had always been saying, you know, we're like the yin and yang and we connect. And just there's so many different things that you're like, wow, so much goes into it and so much thought goes into it. It is really smart.

[Fran]

Yes. That it makes you appreciate it so much. So much more after you watch.

[Ria]

Totally.

[Fran]

Rather than while you're watching.

[Ria]

Exactly. Like, you're not expecting to be like, oh, my God. Something so shocking. You know, the Ratliff father took the gun and Shot eight people in the hotel. Like, it's, you know, it's just. It's not gonna.

[Fran]

You know. What would have been a bang, though?

[Ria]

There's really all these lead ups to show you what is going to happen.

[Fran]

If he just jumped off the boat when he was looking out on the water. If he just jumped off the boat and ended.

[Ria]

Yeah, like, if that.

[Fran]

I would be like, oh, shit. That would have been more. That would have been like a. Whoa.

[Ria]

But I mean, if you really think about it, it is crazy and it makes sense. Even though people are like, oh, nothing. You want to see what happens with them? Is like, no. His whole story was, would he literally kill his entire family because they don't have money?

[Fran]

Money.

[Ria]

Like, how important is money to this rich family that he would straight up kill all of them because they could not live without the money that they had?

[Fran]

Yeah. And they all said it. They all made it a point. They're like, we can't. I couldn't live without the money. And the one that said he could. He was gonna. Yeah, he was gonna save him. And then he almost actually died.

[Ria]

Yep.

[Fran]

But the one thing I do hate though so much is people online that are like, well, if you didn't think that this was fantastic, then this show just isn't for you.

[Ria]

Y.

[Fran]

The people that gate. The people that gatekeep TV shows and act like, get it. You're just. You don't get it. You're just not. You're. It's not for the intellectually challenged. Like, that's literally how people act. I'm like, okay, get off your high horse. Because even Mike White himself has said, like, some things are not the way that people are trying to make them seem like they're really just straight. They're pretty straightforward. And then there are themes and symbolism that do tie into it. It's not like, yeah, people have to stop doing. For sure.

[Ria]

People read. There's a lot of reaches of the.

[Fran]

TV shows of like, whoa, you just don't get it. It's like, okay, well, shut the fuck up. Because everyone can have an opinion about the show. Everyone's allowed to watch it. You know, it's out there. So I'll give it. I'll give it a B plus because I wasn't obsessed with it, but I did like it.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Fran]

So I'll give it a B plus.

[Ria]

Fair. My grade would probably. I probably give it a. If I'm going to be true to myself, I'll probably give it a be.

[Noah]

That's wrong.

[Ria]

Like, it's still. It's still. It is really good. I enjoyed the season a lot. I like so well done. The acting was fantastic. The writing was fantastic. I think that it just moved. My personal preference is to have a little bit more like a little more fast pace. Even if the finale was just a little more fast paced, I think I would have come around to it, but.

[Fran]

It was just slow and it was slow.

[Ria]

It was slow. And I know that it was slow for a big setup at the end. And those last 10 minutes were very gratifying for everybody that wanted, you know, something to happen and have these big moments. But I would have loved that action to have been dragged out a little bit where it's like you really.

[Fran]

It just all happened in the last couple moments and then it was over.

[Ria]

Yeah, and then it was over. Which I'm sure was purposeful. But my personal taste would have liked for it to be a little longer. So I'll go with a B for the finale.

[Fran]

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[Ria]

Summer house all given B minus I thought there was more going on in this episode. The kickball whole situation made me laugh. I thought that was funny. Southern Charm reunion. I'll give as C plus probably in that range too. You know. Run it's nothing too crazy to wrap up to wrap up the season. I started the studio. I watched the first two episodes. I haven't watched the third one yet. I'm behind on the second half of the like all TV that came out in the second half of the week behind it because we were traveling. So like I haven't yesterday. It's like the studio. I haven't watched the Pit. I haven't watched. Yeah, so the studio. But I did watch the first two episodes, so I'll give that. Honestly, I'll give that an A minus. Really good. I really liked it. I really, really liked it. I thought that second episode was so good.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Ria]

The whole one shot, like, I just. It was really, really great. I'm also behind our Righteous Gemstones because it does come on right after White Lotus. But last night it was like, you know, White Lotus went long. So then I just. So I caught up with last week's Righteous Gemstones, which I will give a. I'll give that an A minus too. I thought that was a very funny episode. It was the one with them on the lake when they were trying to break up.

[Fran]

I need to catch up on.

[Ria]

Yeah, they were trying to break up their dad and Lori. And I just thought it was very, very funny. Judy was cracking me up. She is so fucking funny.

[Fran]

She's the funniest character.

[Ria]

But Walton Goggins naked for a lot of this last season, let me tell you.

[Fran]

Hot in the street right now.

[Ria]

My God, he is naked. Very naked in this. In Righteous Gemstones. I watched the Long Island Serial Killer documentary on Netflix.

[Fran]

Yeah. And oh, my God, I have to watch that.

[Ria]

Oh, my God. My God, did they that up so badly? Like he was right under their noses and they have a bunch of and, you know, corrupt Suffolk county police and the. That was going on and it just.

[Fran]

It was, you know, the picture of him on the train. Yeah, that's my cousin's picture that he took of him and posted on his Instagram years ago.

[Ria]

Crazy.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Ria]

That is so great.

[Fran]

Isn't that insane? It's so crazy because, like, when it was caught.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Fran]

It was like, oh, my God, I posted a picture of this man on the train. Yeah.

[Ria]

And these people really just like, they really. I felt so bad for these girls families because they fought so hard for them to be seen and they just did not get the attention that they deserved because of, because of their profession and the things that they were doing. And because they were sex workers. It was felt like they just didn't give them the right amount of attention when it came to trying to find, like, the fact that one of these women, they knew exactly what her last spot was. They knew exactly where her last location was. And it took them 18 months or something to finally search the marsh that she was last seen at. And the cops like, ah, you know, the mosh is just. It's Tough to get in the mosh. Like, it's like. And they're like, what? That's it. They were like, crazy. They were like, yeah, the marsh is just like high and wet and like, we couldn't search it. 18 months.

[Fran]

That's insane.

[Ria]

You knew exactly that she just like, you knew that. That she was last seen literally at the Mars. And there's also these two guys that lived with. I think they lived with one of the girls. And they gave the police the exact description of him because he was at their house and she was scared and she called her friends to come back to get the guy to leave. And they came and they. When this all. And when she was murdered, they were like, you know, she had a guy come recently. We. We had to get him out. We did not. It was a bad, like a bad situation. Full description of the guy. Everything. It was. It was him. And it was like 10 years that he gave. Before they. They gave the descript. They gave the description. 10 years.

[Fran]

I gotta watch that.

[Ria]

I thought it was really well done. I will give that a B plus. I was. I was pretty locked, pretty locked into that. And then I watched the life list on Netflix, which is a new Sophia Carson movie, which, by the way, she is like, Netflix romance. Really her niche. She crushes it. This movie was really sweet. I cried. I like, oh, my God. It got me Connie Britton as her mom. It was so good. If you haven't seen it, really, the premise is, you know, it's young girl mom gets sick, sadly passes, but she finds a bucket list that young. You know, Sofia's character had written when she was like 13 and was like, I need you to do all of these things basically, and, you know, made video messages for each thing. Is really, really sweet. Obviously a romance. Really great. I don't know too much about Kyle Allen, but my God, will I deep dive into ever the next Netflix romance? Give me a new guy. That's how I found Nicholas Galitzine was the first one I watched Purple Hearts and I was like, oh, also Sophia Carson movie. And he's absolutely adorable. And now he's coming up my TikTok all the time. He's a dancer, ballet. He's doing all these trenchard ballet moves. He's very impressive. He's in west side Story as well. But really sweet movie. I really liked it a lot. Very heartwarming. I was like trying not to cry, but it still got me where I was like, oh, my God. Very sweet. I'll give it. Honestly, I really liked it. B plus.

[Fran]

I was on the edge of my seat.

[Ria]

Yeah. I'm between an A minus and a B plus, but I think I'll. I'll go. I'll go B plus. And that's everything I watched.

[Noah]

I finished Running Point this, the season one. It was fun. Yeah.

[Ria]

It's a fun ride.

[Noah]

Yeah.

[Fran]

It's, like, super corny.

[Noah]

Obviously, it's easy. I enjoyed it. I'll give it a B minus the rest of the season. Celtics episode five, give that an A. It's like when Larry Bird's winning. So it's pretty awesome.

[Ria]

So obviously pretty sick.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Noah]

The studio episode three, that's just like. I think it's gonna be an A all season long. Maybe an A plus.

[Ria]

Wow.

[Fran]

Wow.

[Noah]

It's an A right now. Just like the cameos and seeing these, like, actual directors and there's another director in this episode. Like, their acting is so good.

[Ria]

I mean, seeing Scorsese in the Crazy Scorsese was so good.

[Noah]

Yeah. Like, I'm actually shocked at, like, I just. It's like the Entourage thing where you're playing like yourself, but a different version of yourself. So. Yeah, that's an A. I went to the movie theater yesterday. Yeah. And saw Black Bag, the Michael Fassbender movie. Very good. Very good. And it's quick. It's like an hour and a half movie. Solid. I'll give that an A. Minus.

[Fran]

Wow.

[Ria]

I don't even know what this movie is.

[Fran]

I'm not gonna lie.

[Noah]

Michael Fassbender, There's a ton of actors in it.

[Ria]

I love Michael Fassbender.

[Noah]

Yeah, he's always great.

[Fran]

That's a solid grade.

[Noah]

And it's kind of like. I don't know how you would describe.

[Ria]

It as a 96% Ron.

[Noah]

Yes. It's like, yeah, it's a thriller, but it's kind of. I guess they're spies. I'm not really sure you would call them.

[Ria]

When his beloved wife Catherine is suspected of betraying the nation, intelligence agent George Woodhouse faces the ultimate test. Loyalty to his marriage or his country.

[Noah]

Yeah. And what's his face from. Bridgerton is in it. People are always saying he's not doing Reggae Page. He's in it. Pierce Brosnan. It's a good cast. And so, yeah, I'll give that name Minus. And then the White Lotus. Yeah, I'll give it a B. Yeah. Yeah. Definitely my least favorite out of the three. But, like, if I'm just judging it on, like, I'm watching this one season. Never saw the other ones, like, still A solid.

[Fran]

Solid.

[Ria]

Very solid. Yeah.

[Noah]

I think season one might be my favorite. Honestly, like, the more I think about.

[Ria]

I love season one. I don't know, something about season two, maybe it's just because it was in Italy.

[Fran]

Right. I think that plays Theo James.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Fran]

Yeah. I feel like every time I think about season two, I'm like, but Theo James and Aubrey Plaza were in it.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Noah]

I prefer, like, the seasons to be self contained. Like, I don't need, like, callbacks and crossovers of, like, I'd rather just be like, this is a completely new season.

[Fran]

Right.

[Noah]

Like, oh, we're not talking about Jennifer Coolidge. Or like. Like, I just want completely.

[Ria]

Well, because it is interesting because it's like, you don't get every story continuation. It's obviously just what Mike White wants to continue. So that.

[Noah]

But I feel like. No, but I'm saying that so much.

[Ria]

100. It's like a fan. I don't know if it's fan reaction or. Honestly, I think it's how much he loves the character. Mike White said he loved that character so much and he wanted to keep it going, you know, so it's like, oh, there is a little bit of a frustration where some characters, you know, you're never gonna hear from them again. But, you know, Greg's storyline has continued through it.

[Noah]

All you said is in a text. Like, if they made an All Star season, that'd be so cool.

[Fran]

Yeah, that would. I mean, that would be amazing. If they did that, I would be see that.

[Noah]

It's like they invite them back. They're like, hey, we know that you had problems with your last day. There were murders. So, like, we want to invite you out to this hotel, like for.

[Fran]

Or they. Or they don't even address it. They just all end up having to go. They go to another. Yeah, I don't know, but.

[Ria]

No, but very, you know, solid.

[Fran]

Yes, for sure. All right, that wraps up everything we watched. That wraps up today's episode of Ticks in the Office. Thank you so much for watching and listening. The best show on Earth. Of course. We love you guys. We hope you have an amazing rest of your day and we'll talk to you on Wednesday. Big hugs, big smooches. Love you guys. Talk to you Wednesday.