Did Demi Moore Snub Kylie Jenner? + Justin Bieber Unfollows Scooter Braun

Summary

Chicks in the Office: Did Demi Moore Snub Kylie Jenner? + Justin Bieber Unfollows Scooter Braun

Hosts: Ria Ciuffo & Fran Mariano
Release Date: January 8, 2025
Platform: Apple Podcasts, Spotify, YouTube, Amazon Music (Prime Members)

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1. Embracing the New Year: Resolutions vs. Routines (02:21 - 07:00)

As the new year unfolds, Ria and Fran delve into the perennial topic of New Year's resolutions. Fran shares her personal goal:

"I need to be off my phone less" (04:00).

Ria echoes the sentiment, emphasizing the importance of starting fresh without the pressão of strict timelines:

"2025 can really start any day you want it to" (02:26).

They discuss strategies to implement lasting changes, such as Fran's decision to begin Dry January later in the month to accommodate her schedule. This flexibility underscores their belief in sustainable habit-forming over rigid resolutions.

2. Struggling with Phone Addiction: A Common Challenge (11:05 - 22:27)

Fran opens up about her battle with phone addiction, detailing how it affects her daily routines:

"I'm always playing something. Whether I'm like having TikTok videos play" (05:38).

Ria relates by sharing her efforts to reduce screen time, highlighting the difficulty of finding comfort in silence:

"We're always stimulated by something at this point" (05:33).

The conversation evolves into practical solutions, such as adopting alternative alarm clocks to minimize morning phone usage. Fran reveals her appreciation for the Hatch Alarm Clock:

"I have one. My problem is, is that my husband has to have, like, a sledgehammer go off to wake him up" (08:49).

Their candid discussion underscores a collective struggle many listeners face, fostering a relatable and supportive atmosphere.

3. Navigating Anxiety Amidst Reality TV Filming (23:26 - 35:24)

Ria and Fran transition to their experiences with the reality show "Survivor Barstool," specifically discussing the "Pink Wedding" episodes. Ria candidly shares her anxiety during filming:

"The anxiety was truly taking over my body" (12:12).

Fran empathizes, explaining the complexities of maintaining friendships under the high-stakes environment of reality TV:

"It's a tough one, but it's just a game" (13:54).

They reflect on the public's harsh judgments, particularly towards Ria, and the challenges of portraying authentic emotions on camera. Fran notes:

"They're playing their own game... It’s just the name of the game" (15:06).

The hosts highlight the thin line between personal relationships and game strategies, offering insights into the psychological toll of such shows.

4. Celebrity Spotlight: Kate Beckinsale and Matt Rife Reunion (24:06 - 35:02)

One of the episode's main topics is the rumored rekindling of the relationship between Kate Beckinsale and comedian Matt Rife at the Golden Globes after-party. Fran provides background on their past relationship:

"They dated for about a year in 2017 when she was 43 and he was 21" (30:27).

Ria questions the authenticity of recent reports:

"Some say they were just having funny conversations... I don't think it happened" (24:39).

The hosts analyze varying accounts from sources, debating whether the interaction was mere friendly affection or indicative of a rekindled romance. Fran adds:

"Nicki did a fabulous job pronouncing Demi correctly" (44:35).

Their discussion emphasizes the often ambiguous nature of celebrity interactions and the propensity for media to sensationalize.

5. The Demi Moore and Kylie Jenner Encounter: Fact vs. Fable (46:02 - 55:14)

A significant portion of the episode addresses the viral video where Demi Moore appears to snub Kylie Jenner during an event. Ria and Fran dissect the situation, challenging online narratives:

"I really just think that no matter which one it is like people are gonna want to enjoy seeing the worst things happen to like the Kardashian Jenner clan" (45:40).

Fran contends that the interaction was likely unintentional amidst the chaos of the event:

"Lit back and forth because you know, Kylie Jenner, she wasn't in a movie. She's there supporting her boyfriend" (46:21).

Ria emphasizes the importance of context, suggesting that quick movements and high emotions could lead to perceived snubs without actual intent:

"It’s just a little snippet and it could have been so many different things" (46:21).

Their analysis urges listeners to consider the broader environment before jumping to conclusions about celebrity behavior.

6. Reality TV Wars: Below Deck vs. Real Housewives & Love Island Australia (55:16 - 91:52)

The hosts shift focus to reality TV, debating the merits and popularity of shows like "Below Deck" and "Real Housewives." Fran questions the programming choices of Bravo:

"Why don't they play More Housewives or Summer House instead of Below Deck?" (90:00).

Ria defends "Below Deck" as a staple of Bravo's lineup, acknowledging its fanbase while candidly admitting their personal disinterest:

"I don't watch this... It's up there as one of their top viewed shows" (90:57).

They also touch upon "Love Island Australia," critiquing its production and the rapid dissolution of relationships post-filming:

"Every time she says no was the greatest thing to ever happen to Pete Davidson" (33:12).

The conversation highlights the hosts' varied tastes in reality TV and their perspectives on the authenticity and longevity of such programs.

7. Audience Voicemails: Justin Bieber’s Social Media Cleanse (73:03 - 82:27)

Listener Katrina from Melbourne calls in to discuss Justin Bieber's recent social media activity, specifically his mass unfollowing and blocking of former associates like Scooter Braun:

"He's blocked Scooter, he's blocked Ryan... he's just blocked Pooh Bear" (73:09).

Ria and Fran speculate on the reasons behind Bieber's actions, contemplating personal boundaries versus industry pressures:

"There's probably so much he has gone through that we have no idea about" (74:33).

Fran expresses concern over the potential impact of these changes on Bieber's mental health:

"He was probably not protected the way he should have been" (75:44).

They conclude that Bieber's steps might be indicative of a necessary shift towards healthier personal management, emphasizing empathy and understanding for his situation.

8. Pop Culture Hot Takes: Jennifer Aiden at Jersey Mike’s (86:06 - 95:00)

A voicemail from Alexis sparks a heated discussion about Jennifer Aiden's public outburst at Jersey Mike's in Newark airport. The incident, where Aiden publicly criticized the staff and was caught on camera exhibiting unruly behavior, becomes a focal point:

"She's making herself look like the biggest asshole known to man" (70:15).

Ria and Fran condemn Aiden's actions, highlighting issues of entitlement and the negative repercussions of airing grievances publicly:

"You are going to sound like the worst thing you could be and look like the biggest asshole" (71:31).

They advocate for patience and respect towards service employees, stressing that such confrontations are both unnecessary and unbecoming, especially for public figures.

9. Final Thoughts and Wrap-Up (96:47)

As the episode concludes, Ria and Fran reflect on the varied topics discussed, reinforcing their commitment to providing honest and engaging pop culture commentary. They encourage listeners to reach out with their own hot takes and voicemails, fostering a community of shared interests and discussions.

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Notable Quotes:

• Fran on Phone Addiction:

  "I'm always playing something. Whether I'm like having TikTok videos play" (05:38).

• Ria on Starting Anytime:

  "2025 can really start any day you want it to" (02:26).

• Ria on Personal Anxiety:

  "The anxiety was truly taking over my body" (12:12).

• Discussing Demi's Snub:

  "It could have been so many different things, but...there was no snub of any sort" (46:21).

• Fran on Reality TV Choices:

  "Why don't they play More Housewives or Summer House instead of Below Deck?" (90:00).

Conclusion:

In this episode of "Chicks in the Office," Ria and Fran navigate a diverse array of pop culture topics, from personal growth and challenges to dissecting high-profile celebrity interactions and reality TV dynamics. Their blend of personal anecdotes, critical analysis, and relatable discussions offers listeners an engaging and insightful experience, making complex subjects accessible and entertaining.

Transcript

[Fran Mariano]

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[Ria Ciuffo]

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[Fran Mariano]

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[Ria Ciuffo]

I love that memo, Fran. I love that memo. How are we take care of your.

[Fran Mariano]

Skin this year, folks?

[Ria Ciuffo]

Yes, the year of taking care of your skin. 2025. And my motto is 2025 can really start any day you want it to. You know what I mean? There's always that pressure of the new year. Like, what are you going to do in the new year?

[Fran Mariano]

What are your New Year's resolutions?

[Ria Ciuffo]

And having goals for yourself is great and something you should do, but don't put that much pressure. Like say you're a little behind on your goals. You're. It's January. It's January 7th, 2025 started. You may be thinking yourself, shit, I didn't do that thing I wanted to do. January 1st. It's okay.

[Fran Mariano]

Yeah.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Start it whenever you want.

[Fran Mariano]

And it's the way the, the way the new year fell this year. It was like right into a weekend. You don't start anything on the weekends.

[Ria Ciuffo]

No, that's ridiculous. No, that would be utterly ridiculous.

[Fran Mariano]

Never start anything on the weekend. So it's something you think about this week. It's like when Joe and I were just. Because last year we did dry January as well. We were talking about doing it this year as well. And we're like, oh, well, January 1st. Like. And then it's like the weekend we're still gonna be in Florida. We're like, ah, dry January starts January 6th. Yeah, like that's, you know, that's reasonable.

[Ria Ciuffo]

And that's how you end up in January.

[Fran Mariano]

Take one more weekend. Then I end up in damn January. Yeah. So that's, that's where you can't really say was fully dry January. But you're making an attempt.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Right? And you can start whenever.

[Fran Mariano]

Exactly. Exactly.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Did you have anything that you want besides that? Was there anything in the new year?

[Fran Mariano]

I am really. I think I. I feel like I really say this every year to myself and I never follow through because every. It's just. It's a. It's a tough one, but I.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Need.

[Fran Mariano]

To be off my phone less.

[Ria Ciuffo]

I mean, that's a great one for everybody.

[Fran Mariano]

Yeah. Like, I just, I've. I've found myself to be. I'm in like a. It's not even a co. Dependent relationship because my phone doesn't need me, but I need it.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Yeah.

[Fran Mariano]

You know, where there's just like the smaller moments where I'm like, I now feel. And I don't know if anybody else is like this. Like, I struggle with being comfortable in silence and like not having some sort of stimulation whether it's on my. Like I. When I am getting ready in the morning, like I'll have something playing on my phone or whatever. Like when I'm doing. When I'M going to bed. Like, I have something. Like, I just constantly, like I'm either listening or watching something and I need in 2025, it's a big goal of mine to be like, more comfortable just living in. Not silence per se, but just like not being. Not like having my hand twitch if I'm like doing my makeup and my skincare, whatever. And I don't have like music or something. Like just being like, okay. Without some outside stimulant.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Yeah. I'm so with you. I love that goal. I think a lot of people can relate to that. I also can relate to that. It's true. Like, we're always stimulated by something at this point. Whether, like, even if you're watching tv.

[Fran Mariano]

Yeah.

[Ria Ciuffo]

And you're off your phone, you're still watching tv.

[Fran Mariano]

I know.

[Ria Ciuffo]

It's like more just like being able to sit in a room and like stare out space.

[Fran Mariano]

Even sitting on my couch.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Yeah.

[Fran Mariano]

And having the TV on. Like, I still have to be on my phone. Like, I still can't even really like sit and have my phone down and watch TV and not be like distracted.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Gotcha.

[Fran Mariano]

Like, it is.

[Ria Ciuffo]

It's an addiction.

[Fran Mariano]

No, it really is an addiction. I. And you know, for first step is recognizing you have a problem. And that is where. That is where I am at. Because even like last night I was washing my face and getting ready for bed, doing these things, and literally I was like, oh. Like, let me play something like on YouTube for two, for five minutes while I finish the rest. Like, I can't just do it.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Interesting.

[Fran Mariano]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Ria Ciuffo]

I guess I didn't really know that about you.

[Fran Mariano]

No, it's.

[Ria Ciuffo]

I figure we all have the same kind of phone addiction. But I didn't know in the way that you like, even if you're like washing your face or like doing something. Yeah.

[Fran Mariano]

I'm always playing something.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Huh.

[Fran Mariano]

Whether I'm like. I'm like having TikTok videos play.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Oh, I do that too.

[Noah]

Like, I'm going to the bathroom just to pee. I like have my TikTok open.

[Fran Mariano]

Yeah.

[Ria Ciuffo]

I think that. I think that's like everybody, like, you know, if TikTok were to disappear, it.

[Noah]

Would fix a lot of problems because, like, I'm not gonna be scrolling Instagram while I'm peeing.

[Fran Mariano]

Yeah. Well.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Then you'd go to reels. Look, I find a new fix.

[Fran Mariano]

There's the. The vast majority of this country, I believe like the last poll or something that I saw was that only like 30 something percent should support a tick tock ban. I. You know, I could be making up.

[Ria Ciuffo]

That statistic, but I'm. I believe you.

[Fran Mariano]

Yeah. So I don't know. That's all. That's, like, all rapidly approaching.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Yeah.

[Fran Mariano]

Too. So we'll see what happens there. I believe the Supreme Court did. Like, there's a hearing on Friday. And then this past, like, in the past 24 hours. Kevin O'Leary, Mr. Wonderful, has said that he is putting together a bid to buy TikTok. So that is something that would have to happen rapidly because the deadline is January 19th. So he did go on. I think he was on Fox News, and he said, like, we knew we were gonna need Trump's help on this one to really, like, push. Push this through. So we'll see if it happens or not. That'll be.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Yeah, that'll be very.

[Fran Mariano]

But the. The clock is quite literally ticking, so that's coming soon. Yeah, it's like, that's January 19th.

[Ria Ciuffo]

I'm with you with the phone thing, though. I got a hatch alarm clock because. Yeah, I think that the iPhone alarm clock is so brutal. It sounds like an ad right now. It's not that I'm. The iPhone alarm clock. Like, it really is jarring. So I got the. Well, Matt got me the hatch alarm clock, and he was like, why don't you try. He wakes up easier than I do. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I. I admire him for that. Like, he can wake up at any time and get going, and I just, like, struggle to get out of bed sometimes. And I think a lot of it has to do with the phone. Like, it's like, okay, my alarm goes off on my phone, then all of a sudden, I'm on my phone immediately when I wake up. So I've been trying the hatch, and what a lovely, unexpected noise that I woke up to when I first tried it.

[Fran Mariano]

It is beautiful. I have one. Yeah, I have one. My problem is, is that my husband has to have, like, a sledgehammer go off to wake him up. So it's like, not like the hatch alarm. He has to wake up earlier than I do. So the hatch alarm was beautiful. But it would wake me up at an earlier hour and not wake him up. So then I would just have to wake him up.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Right.

[Fran Mariano]

Turn off the alarm. Yeah.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Because it's really, like, a nice sound. Like, it's lovely. I have it on a meditative flute.

[Fran Mariano]

Yeah, lovely. The light gets brighter. It wakes you up. Yeah.

[Ria Ciuffo]

The first time we both woke up, it was like, oh, my. Are we. Are we still in a dream? Like that meditative Flute sound was so interesting.

[Fran Mariano]

So nice.

[Ria Ciuffo]

I am enjoying it because I'm trying to not have my phone in our room when I go to bed, because really, there's a lot going on. And I just said this to you before we started the podcast because you were like, do you want to talk about Sovereign Barstool? Do you want to save it for Friday? Whatever? And, like, I get. Like, I know it's our show, but I get. I'm like, oh, my God. I don't want to keep talking because I know people are like, oh, Ria talks about herself a lot. But then I'm like, survivor's going on. My bridal shower is Saturday. Then I'm talking about myself a lot, but I'm like, this is what's happening in my life. So, like, it's a show is quite.

[Fran Mariano]

Literally for you to talk about yourself. So.

[Ria Ciuffo]

I know, but it's like a pole in my head when I see people say, like. Like, I talk about myself too much. But it is a show where we talk about ourselves, and if we have something to say about ourselves, we say it. So I'm trying to, you know, be better at that and just talk about something if I want to talk about it.

[Fran Mariano]

Exactly.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Not that I've really struggled in the past. I do talk about everything anyway.

[Fran Mariano]

Also, just very interesting stuff that you have going on right now. Like, I don't really need to talk about how I put glasses on this morning because I thought my left eye was getting a little red, and I got nervous about a sty coming.

[Ria Ciuffo]

But I am interested in that.

[Fran Mariano]

You know what I'm saying? Like, and I still said it anyway, because selfishly, I still wanted to say it.

[Ria Ciuffo]

And I want to know.

[Fran Mariano]

Guess what? Your stuff is way more interesting.

[Ria Ciuffo]

No, it's not. I want to know about your side, too. You know what I'm saying?

[Fran Mariano]

It's fine. I woke up with my. You know, I have a. My left eye is my problem eye because of what happened last year with the Charizard that I had. And I. What was the name again? A Chalassian.

[Ria Ciuffo]

No, but what did we name her? We keep forgetting.

[Fran Mariano]

Yeah. What did we call it?

[Ria Ciuffo]

Pam.

[Fran Mariano]

No, I forget.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Well, I think the glasses are a cute look.

[Fran Mariano]

Thank you. But I just. Like, I was. Anytime it gets a little red, I get nervous because people say that it can be, like, reoccurring, and if you just had the. Like, it's a genetic thing, too. So I was like, I'm not putting eye makeup on today. Well, you look worse. And I Panicked, so thanks, but.

[Ria Ciuffo]

And I think the glasses look cute.

[Fran Mariano]

That's really all I have going on. And you. Your. It is. While it is stressful, I certainly. How hard is it? I'm certainly not like, do I wish I was in your place right now?

[Ria Ciuffo]

No. If I'm letting out my true feelings, like, this is how I fucking feel right now. Holy fuck.

[Fran Mariano]

Yeah.

[Ria Ciuffo]

I mean, here's the thing. Because I go back and forth in my head, I just was saying to you this before a record, but I'm trying to be honest with all my feelings. Is that, like. I think it's interesting and I know some people want to hear about it, but I also know there's probably plenty of people who don't want to hear me talk about myself and the things that are happening. So I have this battle in my brain of whether to talk about things or not to talk about things. But you know what? It's our show, and if you don't want to hear it, then fast forward. I guess that's kind of the point I have.

[Fran Mariano]

We get to decide.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Yeah, I think I just have to come to that conclusion that, like, if you don't want to hear it, you can fast forward because there are people that are asking. But, yes, I will sit up again. But that's just how I felt in the moment about surviving Barstool airing right now. The Pink Wedding episodes aired. By the time this comes out, both Pink Wedding episodes.

[Fran Mariano]

Yeah.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Will have aired. And I just want to be completely honest with how I. How I've been feeling and how I felt during that. Really not, like, great. Like, the anxiety was truly taking over my body. Like, I think you can see it. In the episodes I've had girls say to me, like, I could see you, like, playing with your ear. My ears were turning, like, really hot, and I thought I was going to faint and I needed them to bring me, like, cookies and soda and, like, body armor. Because I like, genuinely. The anxiety was taking over my body from, like, I guess just not sleeping and not eating and, like, just being so caught up in this game and we're fighting with our co workers and there's like, the emotions are so heightened and, like, all these things were happening and, like, the anxiety really was taking over my body at this point. And I think you could start to see that happening and now watching it back. All those feelings I was having during that time have now re. Entered my body again.

[Fran Mariano]

So going through it twice.

[Ria Ciuffo]

He's going through it twice. And it's interesting and, you know, everyone Has a lot of opinions and I think some of the opinions towards me don't really match the crime. Like, I, I don't know how many times we've had to remind people that, like, we all signed up to play a game. Yep. And that's, you know, just the name of the game. Like, we all signed up to play this game.

[Fran Mariano]

And I do think people are more harsh with you than others.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Yeah. And it's like a whole, like, no, like, that's not how I am in real life. Like, I'm playing a game, you know, like that whole thing.

[Fran Mariano]

But yeah, I don't know how many times I've said. Can say it too. It's just like you. I, I don't know if people. And I don't even watch Survivor, the real Survivor. Like, I don't watch Survivor. Like, but I know that you. Those people are ruthless because I watch them in other shows. I watched them on the challenge. I watched them on untrained. The traitors like you. They're fucking ruthless because that's the kind of game you have to play. It's just it is such a different social experiment, this game and people feel differently about it. The public feels differently about it because. And so, I mean, so do you guys playing is because they, you are all co workers and friends. So when you go into a game where you have to be ruthless and a lot of times it's strangers, so, like, you can respect the game more because they're like, oh, they're being ruthless, but they don't know the other people. It's. You still have to play that game and it's people that you actually know.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Right.

[Fran Mariano]

And that's what people can. I don't. I find that that's where people get. Can't get past those, like, existing relationships and all those things. It's like, oh, but, but so and so and so and so they're. They're best friends. How could they do that? It's like, well, yes, but you can't. Like, if people didn't make those moves, there's no show.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Right. Exactly. And I know, I know people were worried about me and Kelly, but, like, me and Kelly are more than okay.

[Fran Mariano]

Totally okay.

[Ria Ciuffo]

That's the funny part to me is like, Kelly and I knew this was coming.

[Fran Mariano]

Kelly, spilling red wine on your. On your carpet last weekend is honestly more damning than what you did on Surviving Barstool.

[Ria Ciuffo]

I mean, the thing is, Kelly, that's.

[Fran Mariano]

Red wine on a white cat on a white rug.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Kelly. And I knew this was Coming, like, since we filmed it, obviously, and we've been laughing about it, being like, people are gonna watch this and be like, oh, my God, Kelly and Rhea are fighting. Meanwhile, like, Kelly and I talk all the time. We hang out all the time. We literally were just hanging out this weekend. We're texting about the episodes, like, laughing about us, like, yelling at each other and whatever. But it's hard to. Like, you can't respond to every single comment or message that you get where they're questioning what's happening. And then you have to be like, well, no, actually, we're really good friends and we're super fine. And we laughed about this. And it's like, well, you're also still watching a show. It's a reality show. And, like, it wouldn't be the same if. If this kind of. These kinds of things didn't happen. But I just wanted everyone to know that me and Kelly are completely okay. Like, more than okay. And we've been laughing about it since it happened. But, yeah, it's. I think a lot of people. I mean, the cast that was on the show, the Pink Wedding, when it happened, like, we were like, this is the craziest thing to ever happen to us. Like, being in it versus, like, watching it back. Like, yes, I did say, like, those feelings are coming back. Like, I'm getting anxious again, watching things. Like, just. It's also just disorienting watching yourself in settings where you know that you don't feel good and you're watching yourself, and I'm, like, the way that I'm talking and, like, I can't get my words out or, like, the way that I'm saying things, I'm like. You know what I mean?

[Fran Mariano]

Yeah, you got. Yeah, it's frustrating.

[Ria Ciuffo]

You get, like, the ick from yourself.

[Fran Mariano]

Yeah, like.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Like, I can't. I can't keep watching myself. But what was I saying? Just, like, when this happened, it was like nothing else in the world existed. Yeah, it was like the Pink Wedding.

[Noah]

This one we were supposed to record Time Stood still, and you texted us, like, we're not recording.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Yeah, I was like, we can't. Like, and that's another thing. Now, I think if you. If people listening. Remember during the week that you were on your honeymoon and I was filming Survivor and I was trying to do chicks in the office at the same time, and it was like, I'm trying to do chicks in the office. All this is happening. There's a lot going on. And then the Pink Wedding happens, and I'm like, I. Like.

[Fran Mariano]

I don't know.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Like, it was, like, just trying to figure that all out. Like, my head was spinning. Like, yeah, we're doing this. We're stuck in this room for how many fucking hours? This was like, we were stuck in this one area for, like, six hours. I don't even know how long it was. Like, this went on for so long. And then in the back of my head, I'm like, okay, well, I also have other work to do. Like, I have chicks in the office. Like, there's other things going on besides surviving barstool. But, yeah, my brain is so into this. It's the only thing I could think about.

[Noah]

Like, it actually felt like, from my perspective, like walking into a war zone. Because we were just, like, on the outside waiting for you to text us. Like, hey, we're gonna record now. And then when you walk in and, like, when Mooby and Kelly came on. Yeah, we're just like. You guys look like you've been going through it.

[Fran Mariano]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Ria Ciuffo]

I remember because we had Movie and Kelly on for one of the episodes while we were there in Chicago, and it was like, get getting in that room, the three of us. And then the three of us are scared to be in that room together, away from everybody else. Because when you go and record, you're like, okay. People could be having conversations without you. Like, it's just like, really. It really. With your head. And, you know, obviously, there's a big prize at the end of it, so people are being cutthroat and emotions are high, and there's just so much going on. And. Yeah, I just remember after the Pink Wedding, being like. Like, I was like, this is gonna be the biggest show of all time.

[Fran Mariano]

Like. Like, if.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Like, being in the moment, I was like, this is gonna be bigger than Love Island. Like, it just felt. It just felt so insane. And then you come back down to earth, you know, and you're like, okay, yeah, we're just a bunch of co workers, like, fighting with each other. It's just ridiculous. So, yeah, it's fun to talk about after, you know, the episodes come out. You could talk about.

[Fran Mariano]

Yeah, we can set up the whole. The whole scenario.

[Ria Ciuffo]

The things that I've had. I mean, yeah, I haven't.

[Fran Mariano]

I haven't watched, like, you know, you. You lived it, girl. Right. But I. Like, we're recording on Tuesday. I haven't seen Tuesday.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Yeah, Tuesday night's episode. Yeah, I know.

[Fran Mariano]

I know what happens. Yeah. Yeah.

[Noah]

I'm selfishly, Don't I.

[Fran Mariano]

No, same. I'M I'm watching just like.

[Noah]

And I'm like, I don't really want to look at what.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Yeah.

[Fran Mariano]

But by the time, like, everybody.

[Ria Ciuffo]

I've already seen. Seen it.

[Fran Mariano]

No, no, no, no.

[Noah]

I'm just saying, like, from episode to.

[Fran Mariano]

Episode, he's just saying in general, he's, like, enjoying watching it because we don't really know everything that happened.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Yeah. And Fran texted me about Rico giving his immunity to Dave, and she was like, he gave his immune. I was like, wait, I didn't tell you that. Like, there are so many things that I just didn't or just.

[Fran Mariano]

And there's also, like, there. You may have told me. But at this point, like, I forget too.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Like, you know, I just man. The pink wedding. Like, there's just not enough words to describe like what those. How many ever hours felt like. Like.

[Fran Mariano]

Yeah.

[Ria Ciuffo]

And Dave truly just like, that was like his.

[Fran Mariano]

That was a d. They have just master class.

[Ria Ciuffo]

He was like. And I've. And also I got like a question like a girl was like, like, people like Dave and I have been aligned since day one. If you're watching the show, we've been aligned since day one. So I wasn't just gonna switch up in the pink wedding and start aligning with somebody else.

[Fran Mariano]

Yeah.

[Ria Ciuffo]

When me and Dave have trusted each other from day one and have done all these things and Big Cat 2 and Mubi. So it's like.

[Fran Mariano]

And not. Yeah. Not voted for each other or anything.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Yeah. So it's like, well, I'm not just gonna go switch to another alliance. Cause it was like the voting Kirk out and Kelly didn't want to go for Kirk and. But we were like, we don't trust Kirk. Cause he was working with Will and Biz and there was like a whole thing. And so I wasn't just gonna honor then. I wasn't just gonna jump to Kirk's side when I haven't worked with Kirk at all. Like, that didn't make sense in my brain. Why would I just listen to what you know? And yeah, I guess same for Kelly. She was working with Kirk. So why. You know, like.

[Fran Mariano]

Right. It's the same kind. I mean, it's tough because, like, as a viewer, you see the other conversations you guys were living in and you don't know every conversation Kelly's having. Kelly doesn't know all the conversations you're having. So.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Right.

[Fran Mariano]

You were playing your own game. Kelly was playing her own game. You two are friends. So, yes, you were trying to help each other out. But you were also.

[Ria Ciuffo]

But we both didn't want to listen to. Yeah.

[Fran Mariano]

Like, you're both on different teams strategically moving to this point, and when it got to the point where it was like, hey, like, we may need you to kind of cross over here, it's like, oh, well, I've been working on this. I've been working on this alliance, so, like, I don't want to. You know, it's just.

[Ria Ciuffo]

And I think for me, in this moment with the pink wedding, it was like our tribe had to go through all these eliminations. So I knew.

[Fran Mariano]

Yeah.

[Ria Ciuffo]

That I could trust Dave, Big Cat, and Movie because we had gone through all these eliminations together and made all these moves together with, like, Kelly and Kirk. They had only gone through one elimination. Then they. All the rest of them, they won.

[Fran Mariano]

Right.

[Ria Ciuffo]

So in my head, I was like, how. How do you know that we could trust Kirk? Like, you. Like, there hasn't been that many eliminations for you to go through to know that you could really trust what he's saying. Right. So that's why I was like, I'm sticking with my alliance here. Like, I. I know I can trust them. We've all. We've been doing all these moves together, so, yeah, it's. It's crazy. I just think back to those moments of, like, how we felt when it ended being like, holy fuck, that was torturous. Like, it's funny to laugh.

[Fran Mariano]

Torture chamber, truly.

[Ria Ciuffo]

But it's funny to kind of laugh at that.

[Fran Mariano]

Yeah. You have to be able to now.

[Ria Ciuffo]

You have to be able to laugh at it now and also just, like, laugh at the ridiculousness of it all, because. Holy. Like, gosh. Yeah.

[Fran Mariano]

Yep.

[Ria Ciuffo]

And there'll be another episode. Yep. Tonight when this episode comes out. There'll be an episode on Wednesday, and then we'll talk about the next week.

[Fran Mariano]

Is what, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Yeah, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday. And then it's over. And so we'll talk about whatever happens on Friday. Sounds good. Yeah. Let's get into.

[Fran Mariano]

Let's do some topics.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Let's do some topics. Let's get into it. Kate Beckinsale and Matt Rife. A little reconnection here. Who would have thought?

[Fran Mariano]

Not me.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Who would have thunk it? Not us. Demi Moore. Looks like she snubbed Kylie Jenner, but, you know, I don't think so.

[Fran Mariano]

I mean, blown out of proportion, but blown out.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Per usual. Hugh Jackman and Sutton Foster.

[Fran Mariano]

Big debut.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Big debut. Making things official. Not Sutton Strack.

[Fran Mariano]

Sutton Strack. But I'm sure Sutton Strack wishes it was her I was.

[Ria Ciuffo]

You know what? I really bet she does. Just a little date with you. Jasmine and Jennifer. Aiden's weird jersey Mike rant really actually outlandish. Out of line.

[Fran Mariano]

I forgot to talk about this on Monday and honestly, because like Monday we just had so much to cover and this, it just needs to be mentioned because my God, did it just take over my brain when I saw these videos. It's absurd over the holiday.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Absurd. And we also have the return of popcorn or we're going to be listening to your voicemails. So let's get into it. Starting off the topics. Super exciting news. Ypb. Abercrombie's Active line just dropped a ton of new things for the new year. I got a ton of new sets. I absolutely love them. Black, maroon, navy tank top, sports bras, leggings. All different kinds of sets from ybb. Abercrombie's Active line. New Activemade for routines, not resolutions in the new year so you could bring your personal best all year long. Their newest fabric, Studio Flex, is buttery soft and I can attest to that. It is the softest fabric ever and perfect for your studio girl lifestyle. Also happening right now is Abercrombie's winter sale. It's the new year and this is and there's a sale. So you might as well refresh your wardrobe going into the new year. Abercrombie drops new stuffs every single week, so make sure to download the app or visit abercrombie.com and do not miss, miss out on these new drops. So we're going to talk about Kate Beckinsale, Matt Rife, maybe rekindling canoodling at the Golden Globe afterparty. But I do want to mention it seems like Nikki Glaser is going to be invited back to host it again next year.

[Fran Mariano]

She should, I agree.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Like she should just be permanent host of the Golden Globes. Like this should just be her job going forward. Not the only thing she does. But I mean like the spot should be given to her. It was reported how much she made on the first one, which was incredible. Props to Nikki and also how much. Like over $400,000.

[Fran Mariano]

And that it should be like substantially more the next time around.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Right? Like she's gonna get paid millions to host the Golden Globes, which is incredible. And she did such a fantastic job. I've seen nothing but praise and high regards for Nikki and I think she deserves that because I totally forgot about Joe Coy's fuck up last year. Like in the middle of all of this I was like, who hosted last year? And then I was like, oh, my.

[Fran Mariano]

God, it was so bad. We blocked it out.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Oh, the boobies thing. Like, we. We forgot about boobies.

[Fran Mariano]

Yeah, we forgot about that. No, it's just astronom. Like an astronomic difference, you know, it's great.

[Ria Ciuffo]

It's. It's not even close. So props to Nikki. Just want to give her the congratulations there, because that is awesome. No, better.

[Fran Mariano]

Some other really funny jokes, too. Did you hear sell them on Stern Howard Turn?

[Noah]

Yeah, some of those are so good.

[Fran Mariano]

Some of them are really good. It's, like, fair. And I respect why they may have not made the full show, but funny nonetheless.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Very funny. Probably the smarter move to play a little more safe next year. She can maybe get into a little bit more. But that has to be, like, a.

[Fran Mariano]

Nicole Kim and robot joke was funny.

[Noah]

So the hitman one.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Yes, the. The robot one was so funny. But I feel like when somebody hosts an award show, like, you're usually going to end up getting shit on. Like, lately in recent years, it's been like, without a doubt.

[Fran Mariano]

Without a doubt, there's going to be. And I'm sure there. I'm sure some people have. There's. It's. It's never like, 100% positive, but it feels like everyone with the brain knew.

[Ria Ciuffo]

It was good, right? And I feel like.

[Fran Mariano]

Does that make sense?

[Ria Ciuffo]

Yeah, but it's like, you know, it's never gonna be 100% positive no matter what. But it's more. Way more positive than it is negative rather than. It's always usually way more negative than it is positive with hosts lately. So totally props to Nikki because that is a hard job, a hard room of people, probably the hardest room of people, and she nailed it. But besides that, there was an after party and Matt Rife and Kate Beckinsale. Now, if you don't know Matt Rife, comedian, he was on this show. Then he got canceled.

[Fran Mariano]

Right.

[Ria Ciuffo]

What. What did he do again?

[Noah]

Like, pretty soon after.

[Fran Mariano]

What was he doing?

[Noah]

He, like, his special came out and he, like, changed everything about his, like, routine, right?

[Fran Mariano]

No, but it was.

[Ria Ciuffo]

His special had jokes in it that like.

[Noah]

Or were like. Like, basically him being like, I don't want women to listen to me. Like, that whole thing.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Yes, yes, yes, yes. And then he posted the helmets on.

[Fran Mariano]

His story, and it was a whole thing.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Yes. Okay, so that happened. Now, Kate Bacchusale and Matt Rife did date years ago, and he's been asked about it before, and it kind of seemed like he really wanted nothing to do with it ever again. And he moved past it and. But now it looks like they were canoodling at the Golden Globes after party.

[Fran Mariano]

Yes, he is. He had previously publicly told ex her Pete Davidson, who is also Kate Beckinsale's ex, to run. That was the comment that he made. But allegedly, a source told Page Six that they spotted Kate Beckinsale and Matt Rife smooching at Spago during Netflix's bash following the Golden Globes. They were kissing and being affectionate with one another. Says a spy who described it. A spy who described it all in more romantic terms than a makeout session. Her arm. Her arms were around his neck, and his arms and hands were around her waist. They were very close. And then I saw them kiss a couple times. Another source tells us of the interaction, which they also said wasn't making out. They are friendly exes, and we're having some funny conversations. So one person saying they were kissing, another person saying they were friendly exes having some funny conversations. But, yes, they dated for about a year in 2017 when she was 43 and he was 21.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Yeah, I.

[Fran Mariano]

Which, you know, not great.

[Ria Ciuffo]

No, it's not. And I remember finding that out, like, in the past year, because when Matt Rife started to pop off, like, on TikTok or whatever, and it was like, wait, this kid dated? And I'm calling him kid. He's older than me. But yeah, like, this guy dated Kate Beckinsale then. And it was like, huh? Like, I was trying to wrap my head around it. But now I don't know if it's only one person saying they were kissing. Like, maybe it's somebody just trying to drum up some rumors. Or maybe Matt Rife, who we haven't heard much about recently, maybe somebody in his camp's like, you know, we'll get the people talking if we start saying you were kissing ex Kate Beckinsale again. Or maybe Matt Rife himself is like, if I start kissing Kate Beckinsale again, maybe I'm back in the news.

[Fran Mariano]

Yeah, you don't know what kind of spin there. There is there for sure. But the last time he previously, like, spoke about her publicly, it was not, like, super positive, I would say, you know, that's when he was said to his advice to Pete Davidson was to be careful. And he also said he was asked if he would ever get back with Kate Beckinsale, to which he firmly replied, not a chance. It was complicated. He said, a lot of ups and downs, but she's moved on and I'm happy. And then rife. He had later apologized for those comments, saying, telling Pete Davidson to run, saying he regretted publicly dissing Beckinsale, and added that he was being a petty a hole. So maybe they have just moved on and laughed through that experience and they are just friendly exes laughing it up, hugging each other.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Yeah. Maybe Kate's like, remember when you told Pete to run away from me?

[Fran Mariano]

They were having, like, a little cheeky flirt.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Yeah.

[Fran Mariano]

Very British of her.

[Ria Ciuffo]

That would be little cheeky flirt. And I feel like Kate Beckinsale, she just does her thing. Like, if she wants to flirt with Matt Rife, she's probably gonna do that.

[Fran Mariano]

I just, like, saw the headline again and was like, whoa, Blast from the past. Did not.

[Ria Ciuffo]

I wasn't expecting that because I forgot.

[Fran Mariano]

About those two, too.

[Ria Ciuffo]

I also forgot about the whole Pete Davidson thing, where I was like, didn't he say something? Not have great things to say about Kate Beckinsale?

[Fran Mariano]

I know one of my friends the other day was like, I really can't believe. And completely kind of forgot that Pete Davidson, like, straight up proposed to Ariana Grande and that they were, like, engaged to be married.

[Noah]

Every time her saying no was the greatest thing to ever happen to Pete Davidson or.

[Fran Mariano]

Well, they broke up, she said yes.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Didn't they get engaged? So, yeah, say yes.

[Fran Mariano]

They were engaged.

[Ria Ciuffo]

And then didn't she like to row the ring at him?

[Fran Mariano]

I don't remember what the ring.

[Ria Ciuffo]

She got so pissed at him, she threw a ring.

[Fran Mariano]

I don't know what happened, but. And then she got.

[Ria Ciuffo]

And then she got engaged, married Dalton. And then Pete Davidson dated Kate Beckinsale and dated Kaia Gerber and dated Kim Kardashian and dated Madeline Klein. Who else did he date? I feel like we're missing one.

[Noah]

You're definitely missing people.

[Fran Mariano]

Those are. Those are all the big ones, I'm pretty sure.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Was Emily Ratajkowski in there?

[Noah]

I feel like that was like a.

[Fran Mariano]

Oh, that was like that. Yeah, that was. That seemed like a hookup.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Yeah. They were, like, at each other's apartments.

[Fran Mariano]

Yeah.

[Ria Ciuffo]

And it was like, yeah. No, no. Ellie Rada's at Beat Davidson's.

[Fran Mariano]

Yeah.

[Noah]

Yeah. Margot Qualy. That was after Kate.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Margot Quality. Yeah.

[Noah]

Kai Gerber. Phoebe Dynavore.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Phoebe Dynavore. Yes. And both Margaret Qualley and Phoebe Dynamore ended up going and getting married after.

[Fran Mariano]

Yeah.

[Noah]

Then it was Kim, then it was Emily, then it was Chase Sui Wonders.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Yes. I thought the Chase Sui Wonders one was gonna be the one to really last Song.

[Fran Mariano]

Right.

[Ria Ciuffo]

And then I went to Madeline. I thought, this one's it.

[Fran Mariano]

Yeah. Well, then that's all we know. Then he drove that car into that house.

[Ria Ciuffo]

He did. And then he had that phone call with PETA.

[Fran Mariano]

Yep.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Yeah.

[Fran Mariano]

Yep.

[Ria Ciuffo]

He was in the news a lot more. Yeah.

[Fran Mariano]

I mean, that's why that. You know. But we do miss that, like, reeling it back in.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Right. Selfishly, I do miss the times reeling it back.

[Fran Mariano]

Davidson, he was like, I got his. I got it. Him being like, I got to say no to more things is also probably him, like, saying no to dates. We need as well.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Yeah. But we need a new bachelor. Like, we need a new guy that's like dating around that we could talk about because that was fun. Like, when Pete Davidson was just dating all these.

[Noah]

Who was it before him? Like, who was like the.

[Ria Ciuffo]

I don't know. He went. He went on quite a run.

[Fran Mariano]

Yeah. I mean, it's really.

[Ria Ciuffo]

No. Tyler Cameron, like, only dated Gigi Hadid. And then it was like Instagram.

[Fran Mariano]

Yeah. It was really on back in the day. Yeah. It's an unmatched run in recent. In recent memory. I feel like it is weird because.

[Noah]

You would think that, like, if you keep dating this many people that women would, like, be weary of you being like, something's wrong with him.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Right. You have so many answers.

[Noah]

But it's the opposite. Like, I feel like people are more attract. It's like that thing that people say. It's like, if you're with. That's why once he was with Ariana.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Well, everyone wants a taste. Now they're like, well, what you got going on, why every girl's with him. But also on the other side of that, like, if you're looking for a real partner to, like, last long. You know what I mean? Like, you're looking for a partnership. You're probably. If you're starting to date Pete Davidson in your head, you have to go in with low expectations. Like, this isn't going to last very long. You know what I mean?

[Fran Mariano]

Yeah, yeah. I don't even. A lot of those younger guys, like, they all have been in fairly long term, ish relationships. I think about, like, you know, I mean, I don't really know the status of some of them now. Like, are Austin Butler and Kaia Gerber still together?

[Ria Ciuffo]

No. So I. Apparently they haven't been seen together since October. Actually just saw this and Kai Gerber was on vacation somewhere. I think Glen Powell was maybe there too.

[Fran Mariano]

Yeah.

[Ria Ciuffo]

And they were like, oh, I saw that on Doom. But there Weren't pictures of them together.

[Fran Mariano]

They weren't together.

[Ria Ciuffo]

They were just saying they were basically in the same place. And then I saw people trying to make up rumors that Gracie Abrams started dating Austin Butler and then she left Paul Mezcal for Austin Butler. This was like a random TikTok. I started, like, totally total rumor.

[Fran Mariano]

No, but that's. Right. Like, even Paul Masco.

[Ria Ciuffo]

But it's not crazy that I saw that rumor.

[Fran Mariano]

Phoebe Bridgers, Gracie Abrams.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Like, I see that one rumor, that one TikTok, I'm like. But it was like, nothing.

[Fran Mariano]

Yeah.

[Ria Ciuffo]

There's no other background noises.

[Fran Mariano]

Not made up.

[Ria Ciuffo]

It's just made up. It's like someone was just like, I'm just going to fuck with somebody here and say that Gracie Abrams and other dating and she left Paul Metal.

[Fran Mariano]

That's because it's made up. Who else was I thinking? Jacob Elordi. Like, I don't know what his status is.

[Ria Ciuffo]

No, he, Olivia, Jade.

[Fran Mariano]

I know, but are they still together? You never see them.

[Ria Ciuffo]

I feel like. I feel like we do. I feel like we do see them in, like, paparazzi pictures.

[Fran Mariano]

Really? I feel like it's been a while.

[Noah]

I feel like I haven't seen him at all. Just, like, in anything, really. Like, I saw that he had a beard and people were like, he looks terrible with the beard.

[Fran Mariano]

Yeah, No, I. Yeah, but I'm saying. That's what I'm saying. Like, I don't know. When was the last time those two were seen together?

[Ria Ciuffo]

Do you think that Jacob Lordy was upset that he lost out on the role to Austin Butler for American Psycho?

[Noah]

Yes, I'm sure he wasn't.

[Fran Mariano]

Yes. How could you not be?

[Ria Ciuffo]

Two days ago.

[Noah]

Oh, who's more famous, Austin Butler or Jacob Elordi? That's not even.

[Fran Mariano]

Oh, this. I mean, this last thing, this last People article is from September.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Yeah, it's true, it's true. I mean, the months are flying by, really. Like, in my head, September was last week.

[Fran Mariano]

Right.

[Ria Ciuffo]

But then Life and Style, Jacob Elordian and Olivia Jade's romance facing a test this year.

[Fran Mariano]

Yeah. A Life and Style exclusive.

[Ria Ciuffo]

I wonder where they got this drop.

[Fran Mariano]

A Life and Style. Probably that same girl on TikTok also, right?

[Ria Ciuffo]

The one with the Boston Butler and Gracie Abrams.

[Fran Mariano]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Noah, what were you about to say?

[Noah]

I was gonna say you haven't said your classic. Like, summer's right around the corner.

[Ria Ciuffo]

It is.

[Noah]

I mean, like, in January.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Well, because I'm not trying to jump to summer because my weddings before then, so I'm like, more like springs right around the corner.

[Fran Mariano]

Yeah.

[Ria Ciuffo]

You know, I'm not trying to jump to summer just yet.

[Fran Mariano]

I mean, you just asked us for our full year calendar. Like, we're already.

[Noah]

That's.

[Fran Mariano]

That's how it, you know, wrap my brain around it.

[Ria Ciuffo]

So our years book up fast because we do have to give our full year calendars in January. And then all of a sudden, you start putting everything in and you're. And then you're in. And then you're in November, which does.

[Fran Mariano]

Like, hopefully force you to plan because it's just like it. You really don't have any room for any spot spontaneity, which is fine because most people, you know, don't when they're working.

[Ria Ciuffo]

That is life.

[Fran Mariano]

That is life. But, yeah, I. You know what Another thing with 2025 is, is I do want to. And it's not like, necessarily a no. I guess it is kind of like a goal, too. But I really. And after. After, like the. My honeymoon and traveling, I was like, I really, like, I've told you this. I've got, like the travel bug. Like, there's so many places I want to see, so I don't know why I just brought that up. But, you know, you're.

[Ria Ciuffo]

It's great. You went from saying that, like, spontaneity is not something people can do to you being like, I want to travel.

[Fran Mariano]

Yeah. No, I was saying it more because I was like, shit, I have to decide, like, now if I want to go on a trip, like, in nine months, you know?

[Ria Ciuffo]

Right, right.

[Fran Mariano]

That's. Because that's. Those are the decisions that have to be made.

[Ria Ciuffo]

That is true.

[Fran Mariano]

Yeah.

[Ria Ciuffo]

And a lot of our vacations line up together.

[Fran Mariano]

Yeah.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Like, it's like, well, if you're going to go somewhere, then I'm going to go somewhere. The only times they haven't lined up is the honeymoons.

[Fran Mariano]

Because we.

[Ria Ciuffo]

We can't physically can't if we both kind of.

[Fran Mariano]

As much as I would like to also go on a second honeymoon.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Right. It's like one of us has to be here for that.

[Fran Mariano]

Yes. And that was what we agreed. You know, when this. When all this was happening around the same time, it was like, perfect.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Yeah, you do that.

[Fran Mariano]

I do that.

[Ria Ciuffo]

I gotta stretch your back.

[Fran Mariano]

You scratch. Exactly.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Boom. Um, but yeah, I've never sat like this before in the podcast, the way that I'm sitting right now, it felt natural.

[Fran Mariano]

I felt like in the moment.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Yeah. I felt like, why don't you just prop your head I this and just start and start.

[Fran Mariano]

There is not like I'm. I keep drinking this water because I'm so thirsty, but I don't know. Like, this water bottle has been here since four weeks. Yeah. @ least a month.

[Ria Ciuffo]

It's been a while.

[Fran Mariano]

Opened.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Yes.

[Fran Mariano]

You know?

[Ria Ciuffo]

Yeah.

[Fran Mariano]

But there's no other water right. In the office right now, like, so.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Like, waiting for a refill.

[Fran Mariano]

The body armor goes fast up in here.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Yeah. People are thirsty.

[Fran Mariano]

And when there's, like, a little bit of a delay in the live.

[Noah]

People don't know what to do.

[Fran Mariano]

People, they really don't. Like me.

[Noah]

Jack. No. I was saying earlier, Jack, we were, like, cleaning out this place, and we had a bunch of lemonade in here. I just put it outside to be, like, thrown out. And Jack is like, can I take that? Like, people don't know what to drink.

[Fran Mariano]

Yeah. No. Yeah.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Oh, man.

[Fran Mariano]

When you're used to. You know, when you're used to having it and then it's not there, it throws everything.

[Ria Ciuffo]

We have to get a fridge in this place, though. I've been everybody for saying that since 2023.

[Noah]

Use it for, though.

[Ria Ciuffo]

What do you mean, what would I use?

[Noah]

What do you have right now that you'd want to put in a fridge?

[Fran Mariano]

Oh, my God.

[Ria Ciuffo]

I would store drinks in there. I mean, I would store more than just water. I would store soda. I would store tea. I would store maybe my lunch. If I brought lunch to work that day, I'd put it in the mini fridge.

[Fran Mariano]

Yeah.

[Ria Ciuffo]

You know, there's so many. There's the world is our oyster. Should I throw a mini fridge on my registry real quick before Saturday? You should, and see if people buy it.

[Fran Mariano]

Me?

[Ria Ciuffo]

You buy it and you bring it in.

[Fran Mariano]

I just buy you a mini fridge for the studio to bring it in here.

[Noah]

What about, like, a changing room curtain? Put it over here so I don't have to turn around anymore.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Did we really have to bring that up, Noah? Okay, I had a wedgie.

[Fran Mariano]

Yeah, sorry.

[Ria Ciuffo]

I didn't want to have to walk all the way to the bathroom.

[Fran Mariano]

Look, you're just out. You're just outnumbered in this room where it's easier. There's four girls.

[Ria Ciuffo]

There's one guy.

[Fran Mariano]

Yep.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Happens. We've both had times where we're like, noah, turn around Exactly. Turn around exactly.

[Fran Mariano]

All right.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Every now and then. What's. What karaoke song. Are you gonna sing?

[Fran Mariano]

Get a little bit.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Gonna sing something with me?

[Fran Mariano]

I'll sing whatever. I'll sing whatever you want with you.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Should we do High School Musical?

[Fran Mariano]

We could totally do High School Musical.

[Ria Ciuffo]

The karaoke, the start of something.

[Fran Mariano]

Should we do Wicked?

[Ria Ciuffo]

Oh, my God. Yeah, we should. We should do Wicked.

[Fran Mariano]

Yeah.

[Ria Ciuffo]

And everyone will leave because they'll hear how horrendous. Yeah, our voices are. All right, let's move on. Let's move on to the topics. More topics. Demi Moore. There's a video going around where she comes over to the table of Kylie Jenner, Timothee Chalamet, and Elle Fanning, and she's talking to Elle, and they're probably. You know, Elle and Dakota Fanning have been in this biz for quite some time.

[Fran Mariano]

When I look at life, they're lifers.

[Ria Ciuffo]

No, they really are like Dakota and Elle Fanning, my salty vets.

[Fran Mariano]

They like.

[Ria Ciuffo]

When I think about their upbringing and how stable they seem to be for little. Have been in this industry and have probably seen some shit, I'm like, it is really impressive that those two are, like, still normal and capable, because. Wow. Yeah, they've been around for a while. And then first it was just Dakota, you know, first Dakota was like this rising star, and then all of a sudden, you. Then all of a sudden you're on.

[Noah]

An audition, I think.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Yeah, you're at an audition, and you find out that Dakota Fanning has a sister named Elle, and Elle's in the running for the role, and Elle gets the role. And that's how you find out that Dakota Fanning has a sister, Elle. And the Fannings are taking over the industry.

[Fran Mariano]

And I just feel like they've, like, they've taken breaks a little bit from time to time. Like, I think Dakota was working so much that she did decide to kind of, like, take a little bit of a break. And then Elle was working a lot as well. And now that. Now they both are. And that's. They were both there. They, you know, both part of. Nominated. What was Dakota Ripley. Oh, and a complete unknown. Like, they're, you know, they're both. They're both thriving. They brought their grandma, too, which is very sweet. It is sweet. But, yeah, Demi was Demi. Yeah, don't forget, it's Demi.

[Ria Ciuffo]

And Nikki did a fabulous job pronouncing that correctly.

[Fran Mariano]

She did. She did. And there's this video where she is talking to El, and it kind of looks like Kylie turns to her to, like, say congrats. And there isn't, like, perhaps Demi had acknowledged her briefly, and then it looked like she kind of jumped over to Timothy. And that Kylie, quote, unquote, was snubbed in this interaction. I really just think that no matter which one it is like people are gonna want to enjoy seeing the worst things happen to like the Kardashian Jenner clan no matter what. Because I like really did not see this as a big deal at all. And if anything that if that was anybody else, this would have been spun more onto Demi of like, oh my God, how rude. Like she didn't acknowledge. But instead it's like, aha, look at Kylie Jenner getting skipped right over. Sucker. Like it's like, wait, what?

[Ria Ciuffo]

Why? I've also seen people being like, Demi didn't know who she was. Like, bullshit. Everybody fudgeing knows who the Kardashians are. I don't care. Everybody knows who they are. And you could sit here and you.

[Fran Mariano]

Did that whole you're a big fat liar.

[Ria Ciuffo]

She did. I think that Demi was just in the moment and she totally said it. Thanks. And. And then she said something to Timothy and you know what? Timoth didn't stop to introduce Demi to Kylie.

[Fran Mariano]

Yeah.

[Ria Ciuffo]

You know, and also she also could.

[Fran Mariano]

Have been talking to Kylie before she moved to Elle and we don't know.

[Ria Ciuffo]

That's so true. It's just a little snippet and it's like it could be so many different things, but you just see that little snippet and I don't think there's any reason to holler and cheer at Demi Moore possibly snubbing Kylie Jenner because I don't think it happened. And I think if it did, I think people were saying in the video.

[Noah]

She was saying because it was both Timothy's co stars, it was Monica and Elle and she was saying like, you two look so good. Like she was saying, you too. Maybe that's why people were like. And Kylie was just sitting right there like, you two look so good.

[Fran Mariano]

Also, like the Golden Globes is just a room of people kissing each other's asses for four hours long where they're all just like blowing smoke of like, oh my God, you were so amazing in your project. And oh my, oh my God, you were so amazing in your project. So it's like she just, she won. She's feeling great. As she should. She like you, you're. I think that was a very, I think that was a surprise win for her. So she's probably just doesn't even know what she's thinking right now. But everyone I'm sure is congratulating her on her roles. So she's like probably congratulating them back on. Oh my God. Oh, Demi, you were so great. Oh, you were so great. Your movie was so great. Just goes back and forth. You know, Kylie Jenner, she wasn't in a movie. She's there supporting her boyfriend. It's like a congrats, whatever. It is what it is, but it's.

[Ria Ciuffo]

A poo poo fest.

[Fran Mariano]

Yes. One of Demi's daughters posted on her story saying hi at everyone, but really press nipping this straight in the bud. We spent New Year with Elle, so connecting with her after a win was a very organic thing to do. This angel was in total shock and delight and moving throughout a warm room of well wishers. There was no, there was no snub of any sort. I had seen. Oh, sorry, I'm reading this terribly. There was no snub of any sort. Had she seen KJ wanting to congratulate her, she would have fully given her the time and space. Literally. Just give it all a break and let a gal enjoy her accomplishments. Amen. That's all, you know, that's all. Let her enjoy her win. And in the frenzy and chaos of it all of everyone congratulating you and you're being whisked away from table to table to have everybody greet you and tell you how this is like, there's. You may skip over a few people accidentally, right?

[Ria Ciuffo]

You know, it probably, you know, you're just caught up in the moment.

[Fran Mariano]

By the way, no matter what, like if she's saying, if they did, she's like, we spent New Year's with Elle. Okay? So this is like, no matter what, this is somebody she actually knows. You're gonna naturally talk to that person more. It's just how it works.

[Ria Ciuffo]

It's kinda like when Jean Smart got on stage and she was like, ah, Kate. Like to Kate Hudson and then to Mindy Kaling, she was just like, thank you. Like, it's because she knows Kate Hudson and doesn't know Mindy Kaling.

[Fran Mariano]

It's not a snub. It's just like you're just acknowledging the relationships that you already have.

[Noah]

These moments were happening everywhere. Did you see the video where people were like, Ariana and Cynthia were walking together and Cynthia saw like an old friend of hers, so she walked over to her and Ariana just like didn't know what to do and just like started walking away. But people are like, oh, like she like was so rattled by that.

[Fran Mariano]

That happens all the time. And it's not a snub. That is just called. That's just a social interaction no matter what. Like there's plenty of scenarios all the time. All the time. You Ever walked into a room of people where you recognize the per.1. Like, you see one person you know, and you're like, oh, my God. And you go up to that person, but that person's with all other people that you don't know. Then you. You gotta. Like, you're trying to talk to the one you know, but you gotta meet all the other people. Like, and it's just normal, right?

[Ria Ciuffo]

And then.

[Fran Mariano]

Or if you. Or you just don't go up because you don't want to talk to the other people, right?

[Ria Ciuffo]

Or. Or a conversation ends and you awkwardly walk away and then you're like, where do I go now? I don't know anybody else in this room. Sometimes it's just life.

[Fran Mariano]

That's exactly.

[Ria Ciuffo]

And it's being speculated and picked apart by everybody on the Internet. Per usual.

[Fran Mariano]

I did not think that that was a big deal.

[Ria Ciuffo]

No. Per usual, though.

[Fran Mariano]

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[Ria Ciuffo]

Hugh Jackman and Sutton Foster. You know, this is your story because I still don't understand, like, the big.

[Fran Mariano]

The lore of, like, the lore of.

[Ria Ciuffo]

The Hugh Jackman, Sutton Foster thing. Because I'm still stuck on the fact that I think Hugh Jackman is dating Sutton Strack.

[Fran Mariano]

Yeah.

[Ria Ciuffo]

And my brain, like, won't let that go. And it's like, what a great Beverly Hills Housewives plotline that would be.

[Fran Mariano]

Right?

[Ria Ciuffo]

But it's not.

[Fran Mariano]

No, it's not. It's. It's Hugh Jackman. And Simon Foster they've seen holding hands during a date night in Santa Monica. This is the first showing of pda, which comes two months after it was revealed that there was some sort of secret romance going on. Now, I have explained this before, but Sutton and Hugh were both the stars of Music man on Broadway for some time. So they were co stars together on Broadway. Hugh and his wife of many years had divorced end of, like last. Not end of 2024, but I think like around full year before that. The potential drama here was that Sutton had perhaps been recently separated, but nobody really knows what that whole situation was. That could have been like a full. They could have been separated and had just waited longer to like, fully filed for divorce. You know, you don't know the inner workings of that, like the exact timelines of when people split up. But there was. This was like such Broadway drama, because the Broadway drama, the theater drama was that there were whispers of this relationship, but nobody really knew for sure. Hadn't reached mainstream media yet. But like, the behind the scenes of the Broadway squad was like, ooh, something's brewing here. And now here they are walking hand in hand. They were caught by the paparazzi, paparazzo. And here they go. They look like they're having a grand time holding hands, smiling.

[Ria Ciuffo]

They looked happy.

[Fran Mariano]

They did. They certainly did. It doesn't say where exactly they were going, but paparazzi, a paparazzo had jumped out and took a few shots. According to an insider who saw the, who saw the interaction. Yes, Hugh and his wife had split in September of 2023. So that's, you know, it's going, going on a while now, but these two, you know, it's. I, I know people are skeptical based on like the timeline, timelines and, and such, but I don't know what happened. All I know is I love these two together. I just think they're so you're stick.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Couple if you're shipping them. I'm shipping.

[Fran Mariano]

Yeah, I'm very pro.

[Ria Ciuffo]

I'm very riding hard with them. Yeah, honey, I am.

[Fran Mariano]

I'm. I am riding high because Hugh just seems like a fantastic guy. He always has. Doesn't seem like there's a bad bone in that guy's body. He's always seemed like a sweetheart, and Sutton is lovely.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Now, do you think, because we've talked about this where there were rumors that people thought Hugh Jackman was gay, do you think that it's really just because he was interested in another woman? He was just interested in Sutton Foster, and so people thought because he wasn't interested in his relationship, that he was gay, but it's really because he was just interested in somebody else.

[Fran Mariano]

No, no, because the. Just the time, like the mat. The timeline of it wouldn't have made sense. The only thing that was like the rumors were was like when Sutton and her husband had split, it was like, oh, she's in love with Hugh. There's been like, those were just like.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Yes, rumors were just.

[Fran Mariano]

Those rumors have been around for Hugh Jackman for a very, like, just regardless. For a very long time. And I don't. There's really no.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Like, people just decided that they were.

[Fran Mariano]

Yeah, people just decided that that was. People just decided that was going to be the case for. For what they would claim a plethora of reasons. And it's probably just all very like stereotypical, bad profiling reasons, you know, and even just like, I also think maybe like, because his ex wife was not. I think she was an actress when they had first met in Australia and you know, his career obviously like skyrocketed to being like a massive world famous movie star. And they had stayed together for so long, but the public was always kind of like mean to her for like, like, oh, she's just a beard. And like. Right. It was just like really.

[Ria Ciuffo]

And they split right when their kid went to college. Right?

[Fran Mariano]

Yeah, it was like it was around that time because it was September of 2023. So I think it was when.

[Ria Ciuffo]

So it was like, oh, yeah, it was like, like they're gonna finally split up now.

[Fran Mariano]

Yeah, yeah.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Well, listen, if you are riding high for this couple, then I will ride high with you because I don't. Like I said, I. I'm not particularly in the know of everything besides of what you told me. And if you support, then I support. That's where I land.

[Fran Mariano]

I know. I think it's lovely.

[Ria Ciuffo]

And they looked cute in the pictures.

[Fran Mariano]

They do. And all the quotes around the two of them were so sweet. It was like this was when the rumors had first started. And I think I'd mentioned it before, but this quote was that Hugh and Sutton were 100% together and want to spend the rest of their lives together. It's like, oh, that's.

[Ria Ciuffo]

That's cute.

[Fran Mariano]

Very sweet.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Well then, if that's how they feel.

[Fran Mariano]

But yes, unfortunately, like, I. I could be somewhat in the wrong here of supporting it as much as I do if there was. Because they're in. You know, there's always sides of. There was perhaps a little her leaving.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Her ex for Hugh, which you're gonna turn a blind eye too.

[Fran Mariano]

You're leaving? Yeah, I'm, you know.

[Ria Ciuffo]

She's in love with you.

[Fran Mariano]

It's Hugh Jackman. So. And it was one of her ex husband's friends had kind of allure. What's the right word? There was a comment left by one of his ex's. One of the ex's friends kind alluding. That's what I'm looking for. Alluding that there was perhaps a.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Maybe.

[Fran Mariano]

An affair type scenario, overlap scenario. So. But like I said, not fully.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Not confirmed.

[Fran Mariano]

Not confirmed. And I'm gonna choose to believe that that wasn't the case really. But I, you know, it's, It's. You really end up playing favorites, which is probably just like, you know, as people, as people do. And it is what it is.

[Ria Ciuffo]

It's very clear in this moment what you're doing right now.

[Fran Mariano]

For sure.

[Ria Ciuffo]

You're like, I'm turning a blind eye because I like these two together.

[Fran Mariano]

Right. Meanwhile, like on the opposite side of it, people talk about Ariana Grande, like, and going to Ethan Slater and the things that Ethan Slater did. I'd be like, fuck him. Tsk, tsk, tsk, tsk, tsk, tsk, tsk.

[Ria Ciuffo]

No good.

[Fran Mariano]

But meanwhile, like my exact. My.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Which we didn't even talk about.

[Fran Mariano]

Argument of like, I'm like, well, Hugh Jackman. I'm like, well, Ethan Slater is Ariana Grande.

[Ria Ciuffo]

So we didn't even talk about the Ethan Slater's ex wife, which she put out there. Yeah, she did.

[Fran Mariano]

She did a whole.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Which was sad.

[Fran Mariano]

The whole. Really. Article.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Really sad to read.

[Fran Mariano]

Essay.

[Ria Ciuffo]

It was an essay.

[Fran Mariano]

Personal essay. Yeah. Heartbreaking.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Heartbreaking to read.

[Fran Mariano]

Yep.

[Ria Ciuffo]

You know.

[Fran Mariano]

Yep. Completely.

[Ria Ciuffo]

And probably in the mix of all this wicked, you know, promo going on, I can only imagine what she's going through and how she feels right now. So.

[Fran Mariano]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. That one part of her, like, she's like, imagine, you know, you have to go through the hardest part of your life and, like, try and move on, and then it's just right in front of your face. Right in front of your face.

[Ria Ciuffo]

All the time.

[Fran Mariano]

Yeah, all the time. Not only is it one movie, it's.

[Ria Ciuffo]

It's too, like, not only, like, she's not like, oh, it's over now.

[Fran Mariano]

Yeah.

[Ria Ciuffo]

It's like, well, giddy on up.

[Fran Mariano]

Yep.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Because we got round two coming in November.

[Fran Mariano]

Yeah, exactly.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Yeah. That's tough. That's heartbreaking. Yeah, that was sad.

[Fran Mariano]

That was just like. Continue to try and rationalize it in my head of like, oh, you know, son they're older. They've been through passes in their lives.

[Ria Ciuffo]

They've been there a lot. Like their.

[Fran Mariano]

Their kids are grown up.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Right? Right. They've gone through a lot. Last topic here before we get into the popcorn of the voicemails, this Jennifer Aiden situation with Jersey Mike's. Now listen, Jennifer Aiden is also so perfect.

[Fran Mariano]

That is Jersey Mike's. Like, for a real. For a real housewife of New Jersey to, To decide that the battle, the hill she wants to die on is the Jersey Mike's in the Newark airport.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Is quite a battle. And now I feel like we've all been in situations before where, whether you're at a store or you're ordering food somewhere or you're online at a coffee shop or whatever it is, and you end up. End up in a circumstance where you feel like you're in the right and the employees in the wrong. Right. Like we've all, we've all ended up in that situation at least once in our lives. But what you do or normal person does go all right, and you just move on with your day. Yeah, you just take it and you just, like, move on with your day like a normal human being.

[Fran Mariano]

Take it to the group chat.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Take it to the. I can't believe what happened at Starbucks today, guys.

[Fran Mariano]

Once again, so many problems could be solved if you just took it to the group chat. Because they're, they're the people that are there to hear you complain about something stupid like this and then tell you.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Oh, my God, fuck that, that happened to me.

[Fran Mariano]

And then you move on.

[Ria Ciuffo]

And then you move on and it's a little piece of your day that barely even happened. It's a little blip. And sometimes you're just in a bad mood and it happens. And honestly, the employee is probably right most of the time because it's their job and they're supposed to be doing what they're told to do. But you as the customer, feel like you have a right and it's a whole thing. But at the end of the day, it's not a big deal. You move on with your life and you don't go complaining about it on social media like Jennifer Aiden does and make yourself look like the biggest asshole known to man and look like an entitled, spoiled brat. At Jersey Mike's, how are you gonna end up embarrassing yourself at Jersey Mike's? Jennifer Aiden, like at the airport, at the Newark airport in Jersey Mike's, you end up embarrassing yourself.

[Noah]

Jersey Mike's at airports are always hectic.

[Fran Mariano]

They are, but always look I did see. I did see one person comment, and I don't remember who exactly it was, but it was a woman with a verified Instagram account. And she was like, I hate Jennifer Aiden. But, like, this Jersey Mike's at the Newark airport is notoriously bad. But when you are, when those, when you were at those places, like, that's when you have to remain calm and you have to have respect for the people that are working because those places have crazy lines. It takes a while. And they're. But they're working and give them, like, just respect. Yes. Common decency.

[Ria Ciuffo]

And because those employees are dealing with your bullshit all day long, they're dealing with other people's bullshit 24 7. Because they're working in the airport. The airport is an extremely hectic place. People are rushing to their flights. They feel like they got to grab a fucking hero before they fight their flight. They got to grab Jersey Mike's before they make their flight. They're in a rush. They're telling the employees, oh, my God, I need my. I need my sub mics way before I get on my flight. But I got five minutes to run to boarding. Like. And these employees have to listen to your stupid problems all day long. So give them some grace because they have to listen to you while they're doing their job. They're just trying to do their job. Do they want it to be as hectic as it is?

[Fran Mariano]

No.

[Ria Ciuffo]

The employee also does not want to tell you no or make it hectic. They just want to do their jobs and get on with their day. But people kind of make it impossible because they're so fudgeing, snooty and snobby and complain about everything. And then you have people like Jennifer Ayden filming, like, now in the world, everyone films everything. Like, I'm just going to film you. What if I just film you? And let me tell you, the person who ends up filming never, ever looks good.

[Fran Mariano]

No, never.

[Ria Ciuffo]

The person who's behind the camera going, I'm just going to film you, is always the one who ends up looking the worst. Because you're like, why do you have to take it there? Yeah, why do you have to take it to the Internet? You're posting this. I'm a fucking celebrity. If I was standing in line behind Jennifer Ayden and she was doing this, I want to say I'd have some words. I'd probably just stand there and laugh this whole ordeal and then say to the employees and be like, God, like, I've had that happen. Where Like, I start siding with employees, and I'm like, gosh, how are you dealing with this? Like, I. At the hotel the other day in London, six girls. I forgot about this story. I was standing in the lobby and six girls came in to check in to two rooms. There was queen beds in each room. And so the manager was like, well, you only put down four people. Two people in each room. You're here with six people. And she was like, I'm not checking you in. Like, it's a safety prototype. Like, I can't have you all in these two rooms. Like. Like, it's not allowed. And they were just fighting back and forth.

[Fran Mariano]

Well, it's all.

[Ria Ciuffo]

And the woman was like, well, you wrote down to each room, there are six of you. And she's going back and forth. And I just. After they left, I was like, I'm so sorry you have to deal with that. And she was like, ah, it's my job. Like, I do this every day. And I'm just like. But people really just think they have the right. You know what I mean? Like, they just. Oh, they always think they have the right.

[Fran Mariano]

No, it is. It is so true. And she. Jennifer did not look good in this whatsoever. It's early in the morning and just, by the way, like, Jersey Mike's etiquette, especially the airport, when the line is long, the line's long. You got a long time to think about your sandwich order, girl. You have your order ready to go when you get to the front. And if you are ordering five sandwiches, you say, hi, I'm gonna need five sandwiches right off the bat. You don't just start adding sandwiches. People jumping into the line saying, oh, get me this, give me this. That's where they were like, oh. Then people were jumping in. Oh, got me a tuna. Get me a tuna sandwiches. And that's just. And then like, the guy behind her was saying, like, oh, you know, you're being kind of ridiculous because you kept at the Jersey. Mike's employee was like, if you are ordering another sandwich, you have to get in the back of the line. Like, other people need to order. And he was like, it's getting kind of real. Then she started filming him, and he was like, I'm a law professor. Like, blah, blah, blah. And. And then I don't know who it was, but there was somebody, like, wasn't. I don't know if it was Jennifer's friend or somebody or somebody that was like, she's a celebrity. And then she was like, I am a celebrity. And I Was just like, oh my God. That is worse. Oh my God. Oh my God. That was a burp.

[Noah]

I thought that was a sound effect.

[Fran Mariano]

No, that was a full burp. Full burp.

[Noah]

That was like mid word.

[Fran Mariano]

It was. Sometimes you just keep talking. It flows out of you. She came from like a belch. It was a good sound effect.

[Ria Ciuffo]

I'm like gonna need an instant replay on that because.

[Fran Mariano]

Oh my God, how embarrassing.

[Ria Ciuffo]

I. My jaw dropped. Oh, yeah, you gave me a fright.

[Fran Mariano]

I was stunned, honestly. It's like, you know, sometimes you feel free. No, it's like sometimes when you're drinking water and then you just start talking so much.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Oh, do you feel lighter?

[Fran Mariano]

No, no. Now I'm just sweating from embarrassment.

[Ria Ciuffo]

I'm not even meaning to laugh that hard. I just can't stop.

[Fran Mariano]

Oh, man. Sometimes that does happen to me.

[Ria Ciuffo]

You would have just farted.

[Fran Mariano]

Oh, God.

[Ria Ciuffo]

No. I'm gonna need instant replay as soon as we stop recording.

[Fran Mariano]

I'm not even. I think I just. I think I'll just step out.

[Ria Ciuffo]

That was incredible. Wow. I don't even remember. No, I don't even remember what you were saying.

[Fran Mariano]

I don't either. I don't either.

[Ria Ciuffo]

What'd you have for lunch today?

[Fran Mariano]

Chipotle.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Yeah, that'll do it. That'll do it. That sounded like Chipotle.

[Fran Mariano]

That will do it. It's not even. It is. I blame this old water spin, but it's been bubbling. Oh, God. Actually, Jennifer Aiden's jersey in Florida, my parents, like exclusively have, like, they love the sparkling waters, like the flavored sparkling waters. And Joe and I probably drink, so it's a build up much of them. And one day on the beach, like Joe and I just like sat on the beach like alternating between like burping for like an hour. And he was like, I don't like, he's like, I've never burped this much in my life. And I was like, I think it's cause of all the. I think it's cause of all the sparkling water.

[Ria Ciuffo]

We just drink the soda water that built up. It just came out and it transformed.

[Fran Mariano]

Yeah. But I mean, it's been days since I had any sparkling water. So that's just. That was just a. Just a pure old slip up.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Yeah. That was incredible. Wow.

[Fran Mariano]

Sometimes when you're just talking, you never know what'll come out.

[Ria Ciuffo]

It just is like. So Jersey. Like fucking Jersey. Jennifer Aiden with a jersey.

[Fran Mariano]

Yeah. Have some clash at Raven.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Oh, all right, let's end there. Let's just end there.

[Fran Mariano]

The last Thing I wanted to say was that the Jersey Mike's employees did fire back at her.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Yes.

[Fran Mariano]

And they were like. It was. Oh, and the, the, the biggest mistake she made was in her video, she was like, there's an 80 year old, like, taking so long, like making the sandwiches. You're gonna. On this poor 80 year old that's working the Jersey Mike's in the airport.

[Ria Ciuffo]

It's so same.

[Fran Mariano]

Like you're gonna like, be like, oh my God, look how old they are. And working and being slow. Like, you're an evil type of person to have to say that about an older person working.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Really, you should be kind of praising them like, wow, this person's 80 years old and they're still working.

[Fran Mariano]

Yeah.

[Ria Ciuffo]

You know what I mean?

[Fran Mariano]

That's just so obnoxious.

[Ria Ciuffo]

No, it's just so rude. Like, I imagine, like hearing that and it's like about my gr. My grandpa. Well, my grandmas are dead, but my grandpa. I would be really upset.

[Fran Mariano]

No, it would be awful.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Yeah.

[Fran Mariano]

And she's like moving so slow, getting the bread like g. Like, yeah. Off.

[Ria Ciuffo]

No. Jennifer, why don't you get behind there and make your own sandwich then?

[Fran Mariano]

Yeah.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Why don't you get in the kitchen, Jennifer, and make your own sandwich?

[Fran Mariano]

I just. At a certain point you, like, also film those videos and you need to give, like, if you, if you find yourself in that scenario, one look in the mirror. But also, like, you gotta sit with it for at least an hour and then watch it back and then be like, okay, I probably look like a psychopath. Probably shouldn't post that. If you are somebody with a following.

[Ria Ciuffo]

If you're gonna do any sort of complaining about restaurants, especially when you're food celebrity. Yeah, I'm a celebrity. Get me out of here.

[Fran Mariano]

I'm a celebrity.

[Ria Ciuffo]

If you're gonna do any sort of complaint about that, about any sort of anything in the food industry, you better make sure you're right.

[Fran Mariano]

Yeah.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Before you start posting things.

[Fran Mariano]

Yep.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Because a lot of times people are not gonna end up on your side. You know what I mean? Like, a lot of times you end up sounding like the.

[Fran Mariano]

What a bad look.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Yeah. Bad luck. Bad luck.

[Fran Mariano]

I'm feeling nervous about my tummy now. Oh, no, I don't.

[Ria Ciuffo]

You never know what's gonna happen.

[Fran Mariano]

I don't know what's gonna happen.

[Ria Ciuffo]

You could just come out of nowhere.

[Fran Mariano]

You just never know. At this point, I'm afraid to take another sip of water.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Yeah. Don't. All right. That. Right. The topics.

[Fran Mariano]

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[Ria Ciuffo]

Welcome back to Popcorner where we're going to be taking your voicemails. Hot takes about pop culture, whatever you really want to call it and talk about. We're here to listen and answer. So let's get into some voicemails.

[D]

Hi, Rhea, Fran and Noah. I'm Katrina and I'm from Melbourne, Australia.

[Fran Mariano]

Wow.

[D]

I'm ringing because I want your take on everything that's going on in Justin Bieber world right now because I'm a huge believer. Loving so much. I love Haley. I love the Beavers. Oh, I just love him so much. But over the past couple of days he's done the mass unfollowing. Like, he's blocked Scooter, he's blocked Ryan. Like, and they had Drew house together and now they no longer obviously have Drew house anymore. He's blocked Allison, who was also his manager. He's blocked Kenny, who was his bodyguard and now he's just blocked Pooh Bear. Like, do you think this is all in relation to what's been going on in regards to, I hate to say it, D or do you think, you know, hopefully this is like a brand new era for Justin, like with the new album coming out. But I don't know, like, I also feel scared and like sad for him too because these are the people who, you know, raised him and raised him in this industry. Like, I just would just love your opinion on this and what's going on because you know us in the Justin Bieber world, we, we're all pretty shocked by it. Anyway, love you guys.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Love you too. And I think for Justin Bieber, there's Probably so much he has gone through that we have no idea about.

[Fran Mariano]

Like 100%. The secrets that he has is. Are probably astounding.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Right? Like.

[Fran Mariano]

Like this. Yeah. There's just so much more. Because when there's so much. When there's so much already out there publicly of things that he's gone through, that just means there's 10x more behind the scenes that we don't know about.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Right. And, you know, to bring up the Diddy point, like, for a while, when Diddy's name first got brought up and he first got arrested and all these charges first started happening, there was a lot of videos that were being brought up again of Justin Bieber hanging out with Diddy in a way that it seemed like Diddy was making Justin Bieber uncomfortable. Like, it was, you know, like there was just weird things that Diddy was saying and doing to Justin in these videos that had people raise their eyebrows and go, well, what did Justin see behind the scenes? What was maybe done to him behind the scenes? Like, you know, everyone's mind started racing, racing, like, what could have happened to Justin Bieber? And I think that our minds are still there. I mean, I know for sure. I, I feel that way. I'm like, what did Justin Bieber go through and what was done to Justin Bieber and what did Justin Bieber see? Because it has to be a lot like that. That's kind of just my opinion on it.

[Fran Mariano]

I agree. It is sad because during that era, like, that prime era, these people were so intertwined in his life, his business, obviously. But the fans all saw them too. The concert, the movies, the behind the scenes, the videos, like, they all seemed so close and so supportive of Justin that now if, like, the healthy thing for Justin is to not have these people in his lives, like, that's hopefully that's good, but it is just sad that whatever had gone on and whatever has transpired since then is at the point that he is, like, fully separating himself from. From them. And I don't. Yeah, I just. There was always. It felt like almost. And we've seen it in his last documentary and everything. Like a little bit of a darkness that he's had to live with. And you just don't know how involved these other people were. And he just probably was not protected the way that you. He should have been, you know?

[Ria Ciuffo]

Yeah, I agree with that.

[Fran Mariano]

Now when he's looking back at it and hopefully working through it in a way that is healthy for him, like, there's just probably some boundaries that have needed to be set. And I would like to hope that it wasn't as bad as where our brains go to, especially, like, with the Diddy stuff and all these things that it's, you know, not at that level, but certainly not out of the question.

[Ria Ciuffo]

So, yeah, when it comes to the blocking of all the people that were, like, in his close proximity in life, I don't know. I don't know. You know what I mean? Like, I don't know if that has to do with Diddy or if that is a personal.

[Fran Mariano]

I think Scooter deactivated his entire Instagram too.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Maybe after he got the blocking, he wanted to make it.

[Fran Mariano]

Yeah, like, it wasn't.

[Ria Ciuffo]

So, I mean, we all know Scooter.

[Fran Mariano]

Sketch, so I didn't want to look it up or something because I tried to. I tried to find his Instagram. Instagram, and nothing comes up.

[Ria Ciuffo]

So maybe he deactivated because he didn't want people to think that anything was happening. But it's clear something is happening. And whether it's just a personal, like, like you said, personal boundaries that he's setting that he wants to, you know, put those in place and. And, you know, have these people not a part of his new era of life, or is there some sort of thing that these people knew and they didn't protect Justin in the way. And now he's kind of setting that.

[Fran Mariano]

Tone just to do like a complete 180, but also not really, because that caller was Australian, which jolted my mind. Did you finish Love Island Australia?

[Ria Ciuffo]

I got it spoiled of who won.

[Fran Mariano]

And I did finish it. And then I have seen the aftermath in the coming time. Bad. What a disaster of a season.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Yeah, that's kind of what I saw that made it get spoiled for me.

[Fran Mariano]

Yeah. I don't also. Don't. It also seems that they feel like they filmed it on a delay, which I did not realize it wasn't real time. Yeah, in real time. So I don't know if every Love Island Australia season is like that.

[Ria Ciuffo]

I think it is with Australia, which bullshit.

[Noah]

That's like the whole show.

[Fran Mariano]

Yeah, I know. Which I really didn't realize that because then I'm like, so who's voting when they're like, all the super. The super fans are voting. Like, who are the super fans? They just have, like, a select group of people that are allowed to watch.

[Ria Ciuffo]

That's a good point.

[Fran Mariano]

Happening. And then, like, the rest of the public just sees it when it airs. I don't know. So that was confusing to me. But anyway, if you haven't finished the season. I guess don't listen to this. But. But after they finished filming, it was just like everybody broke up. Like everybody. And the way they all talk about each other now is just so funny. Cause they're like, yeah, just like, didn't even. Didn't give it a chance. Like Mercedes and M ended up winning and Mercedes has just gone on this like reality TV villain kick that I just didn't even realize. I guess he was on Fboy island twice, which is like red flag once.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Once is a red flag, twice is.

[Fran Mariano]

And alarms. And I think he won. I didn't even know he could win F Boy island, but I guess he won F Boy Island.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Also a red flag.

[Fran Mariano]

So now he's on TikTok being like, I'm a three peat reality TV winner. Like, I'm the goat. Like, blah, blah, blah. I'm like, what the fuck is this?

[Noah]

Lean into it.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Yeah.

[Fran Mariano]

And then Taylor, I guess also had been on another reality show. It was just like all these shows that these guys had been on. And I think maybe, I don't know if Em had done something. I don't know, it was just something where like they had all acknowledged that they were on other shows, but then like, it didn't get air. Like nothing was aired about it. So just all very weird. But even the couples that you thought like actually had a connection, they're like, oh, no. Nair.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Nair.

[Fran Mariano]

After about like three days, it was like everybody broke up. I think the last time I looked was like two weeks ago. And Kayla and the fourth Hemsworth were still together.

[Ria Ciuffo]

That would be shocking.

[Fran Mariano]

And they were like the only ones.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Wow.

[Fran Mariano]

Which was very funny considering, like, they were together for like six days before the end.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Damn. Yeah. No, that was like. That season was fireworks. And that exploded too fast.

[Fran Mariano]

Exactly. It really, it. It really was shining bright too early and had a massive, massive collapse. And now it is very funny seeing them all talk about it because it's just like, it was a disaster.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Right? For sure.

[Fran Mariano]

And yeah, I mean, all of them. But the other guys too. The French guy was like, that was obviously never gonna work either.

[Ria Ciuffo]

No. God, no.

[Fran Mariano]

And I don't know what Mimi was thinking staying with him too, after. After she saw the clip of him being like, it's different when men cheat than when women cheat. It was like, all right, you lost me, pal.

[Ria Ciuffo]

She should have been out of there. She should have just left the show at that point.

[Fran Mariano]

Really? Seriously.

[Ria Ciuffo]

It would have been iconic.

[Fran Mariano]

So, yeah, that. Anyway, that was my little tidbit. On Love Island, Australia. We can do the next question.

[D]

Hi, Rhiann fan. So my hot take is that sometimes we fans give too much power to celebrities who, like, hit their big break. Like, I'm gonna mess up his name. Breguet Page. The Duke from Bridgerton. Like, we gave him too much love, and then he said he was gonna go and do bigger and better things. And what did he do? Like, nothing. And he still won't come back to Bridgerton. And I love Renee Rapp, but I wish he could have stayed on Sex Life of College Girls for, like, at least another season before she went on to go pursue more for music. Because the time was, like, so big for the pop girlies that maybe in a year or two, she could have hit, like, her really big break. So, I don't know. I feel like sometimes we just get people so hyped that they're like, you know what? I don't need this show. I can do bigger and better things. And I think the timing could just wait a little bit.

[Fran Mariano]

I honestly love this because I feel like she's basically saying that the people we all really love, we should make sure we humble them.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Yeah. Don't put them on a pedestal.

[Fran Mariano]

You know, we should really keep these people down to earth. Like, when you see somebody having their big break, you should really be like, you know what, pal? Sit.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Yeah, like, sit down. Hey, let's not show them too much love.

[Fran Mariano]

Yeah, do your time. You're not there yet.

[Ria Ciuffo]

I do kind of understand what you're saying, though, in the sense of, like, it's more really on that. It's on them that they feel like, okay, I'm getting all this love. Well, what I'm doing now, I can really be the biggest superstar on the planet. And then it's like, okay, well, people really loved you because you were doing this thing, and now you're not doing this thing. You know, it's like, right. Did you need it or did you not need it? It's. It's difficult because you're not gonna stop yourself from loving somebody or being a fan of them. And you should always be nice to people that you enjoy and always give them the praise that they deserve. And if you enjoy them, you should tell them.

[Fran Mariano]

Yeah.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Because the other side of that, people are. Are really mean.

[Noah]

And.

[Ria Ciuffo]

And that's not fun either. And I don't think people should be mean to other people like that either.

[Fran Mariano]

But it falls on the actors.

[Ria Ciuffo]

It's like, right? It's like, if their team is telling them, hey, you you, you're bigger than this. You got to leave, then they're probably gonna listen to that. And that's really on them. If they don't want to be doing it anymore, like, if they still wanted to do it, I think they would do it. But they don't want to like Renee rap, like she didn't want to do sex lives of college girls anymore. So like, you can't force someone to do something they don't want to do regardless if they're taking off, skyrocketing or not, you know?

[Fran Mariano]

Yeah. Reggie Jean Page certainly could have continued to do Bridgeton, but it was like, in a sense where I do now, looking back at it, I do somewhat get it because at the end of the day, like, he wasn't gonna be the main character again. The story was gonna move on, which is also still kind of tougher. It's like you couldn't find a little, little blip to make a. Make a two episode appearance with. With Daphne, like, it's just like, what's the. Is it that much of a commitment?

[Ria Ciuffo]

Yeah.

[Fran Mariano]

Look at Jonathan Bailey, right? The man has skyrocketed, Skyrocketed. Now he's probably a good example of what to do, you know, and he works, he worked hard. He did Bridgerton. And when after a season of Bridgerton, he wasn't like, fuck off, Bridgerton, he still like has, you know, made made appearances and had some in the third season and everybody loved him for that. But it's also like he want. He was like, I loved that doing it. So it's. Who are we to say really? Like, especially, I know with Renee Rapp too. Like, she, if I remember correctly, I think she had like somewhat of a toxic relationship around when she was still.

[Ria Ciuffo]

She struggled doing the show around the.

[Fran Mariano]

I think like doing the first season of the show and then it was like really hard for her to go back to that environment. And.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Yeah, it happens.

[Fran Mariano]

Yeah.

[Ria Ciuffo]

You know, I mean, but it also could really work out in their favor. Like Olivia Rodrigo, like, she was on High School Musical, Musical, the series, but.

[Noah]

She did come back right after the first season.

[Fran Mariano]

She did, she did.

[Ria Ciuffo]

And then.

[Fran Mariano]

But like slowly faded out. Like it was like a slow fade.

[Ria Ciuffo]

And she's superstars, so it really depends.

[Fran Mariano]

Not everyone. Like, some people act. There are actors out there and it's just the same thing with musicians. You know, there are one hit wonders out there and sometimes like an actor, they have their big thing and it's just. They don't catch that magic again.

[Ria Ciuffo]

No. And I think and that's, you know.

[Fran Mariano]

That'S not on us because whatever that one hit thing is, it was probably fantastic.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Yeah, we did love them for it.

[Fran Mariano]

Yeah.

[D]

Hey girlies, I've got a hot take for you. Can we leave the slick back bun in 2024? I have always hated this trend. I think your hair looks disgusting. Not you two in general, but every girly. Your hair looks way better down. Stop doing that.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Just put it in a ponytail if.

[D]

You, if you must. But yeah, I've, I've never been on this trend. I think it's, it's awful. And let's leave it in 2024. Cheers.

[Ria Ciuffo]

It's just so easy to do when you don't want to wash your hair and you want to put a little hair mask in and slick it back. I will say though, I now that my hair is darker, I actually don't like my hair in a slick back bun in the way that I did like when it was blonde. I liked it better in a slick back bun when it was blonde. But now I don't really love it in a slick back bun. I still do it from time to time just if I'm really lazy. But it's not my preference anymore because I think it looks different now that it's darker than it was blonde, if I'm being completely honest. But I actually think like the opposite of that. Like, I think a lot of people do pull off a slick back really well. Like I'm like, I don't think it looks gross. Like, I think it looks great. But I could, I do know that people have that opinion that they need a slick back.

[Fran Mariano]

And you know, they do say it's like not great for your hair and all these things. But I would, I consider myself somewhat of like a novice of doing hair like my own hair. I'm just like not that good at it. But a slick back is something that I can do. So I will be continuing to do it because I can manage it and like the way my hair is and just doing like a normal ponytail, it just looks messy. Like it's like the slick black just gives it a clean look. Like I have a bunch of baby hairs and all these things that like stick out when I'm just trying to do like throwing my hair up in a ponytail that needs it to kind of have like a cleaner look. So as much as I hear you.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Yes.

[Fran Mariano]

And see you, I will, will not be retiring my slip slick back ponytail this year. I may not do it as much, but, but I still very much Enjoy it. Because also having to wash your hair all the time is really fucking annoying. Right?

[Ria Ciuffo]

It's like, yes, I know my hair. Sometimes I don't know, but I just totally. It's a lot of hair to do.

[Fran Mariano]

It really is. And sometimes when it's like, my hair gets oily very quickly. So I already am washing my hair, like, every other day. Like, I'll try and extend it longer, but it's hard for me. So if I wash my hair Friday morning and I'm going out Saturday night, and my hair already, like, is kind of not looking great down. I'm like, I don't wanna. I just washed it yesterday. I'm not washing again. Throw it in a ponytail. Like, throw it in the slick back. It just makes life so much easier.

[Ria Ciuffo]

And you do a great one. And honestly, like, it's just. Sometimes it's just the easy way to go. And I actually do love it. On other people. I'm not. I actually disagree. Like, when I see other people doing it, I'm like, oh, they look great. Like, I don't have the. The opinion of. I don't think people look good. Yeah, but that's your opinion and you're entitled to that.

[D]

Hi, Rhea and Fran. So my hot take has to do with reality tv, specifically on cable. So I thought cable. And I have no clue why they only play Below Deck on the Bravo channel. Like, I do not give a shit about Below Deck. Does anyone actually watch that show? I think it's so stupid. And why don't they play More Housewives or Summer House or something like that? So my hot take is no one gives a shit about Below Deck. Love you guys. Bye.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Listen, we don't watch Below Deck. Yeah, yeah, but so many people watch Below Deck. I. I actually think Below Deck is one of their most popular shows.

[Fran Mariano]

It has, like, 14 different iterations. Yeah, so.

[Ria Ciuffo]

But it's so true. You're so right. Below Deck is always on Bravo cable. It so is. Sometimes you'll catch, like, a Vanderpump rerun on a Wednesday. I've noticed that's like. Or like a Beverly Hills or, you know, a Real Housewives on a Wednesday. But a lot of the times it's Below Deck. A lot of the times. I've noticed that too. And I'm also like, I'm not watching this.

[Fran Mariano]

It is just so interesting scheduling question, though. And I wonder if it's just, like, they can go off. What? Like, I wonder if they can go off streaming numbers and just see, like, what more people are streaming and maybe like, the Below deck streaming numbers are lower, so they're like, let's just slap Below deck on TV all the time so that people can. People can watch it. Maybe they'll. Maybe they'll get hooked. But I do think Below Deck is, like, one of their top viewed shows.

[Ria Ciuffo]

It is. I'm pretty sure. I don't think they would be playing it on reruns as much.

[Fran Mariano]

I mean, hey, like, that's like. If you put on MTV and it's like just ridiculousness over and over and over again.

[Ria Ciuffo]

God, we. Don't get me started about that. I can go on for at least the.

[Fran Mariano]

The catalog of reality TV that MTV has that they could play and marathons and reruns of things that they could play. And instead it's just ridiculousness over and over and over again. You know, I don't really understand why that is either.

[Ria Ciuffo]

It's the worst show ever. Ridiculousness is the worst show ever.

[Fran Mariano]

I'm gonna Google Bravo's top below document.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Might be number one.

[Fran Mariano]

According to recent reports, the highest rated shows on Bravo are currently considered to be the Real Housewives of Beverly Hills, which often boasts the highest viewership across the entire Real Housewives franchise. Okay, but see, like, this is, like. This is like the AI Answer, you know, but sometimes they. You can see the ratings on tv, but these are just like, from their primetime charts of this week, which doesn't help either, because I feel like streaming, obviously, streaming. Like, people watch everything on Peacock now too, because, like, there's a Bravo ratings Twitter account that posts, like, the viewership of the new episodes that are on now.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Well, there's so many different. There's so many different avenues of.

[Fran Mariano]

Yeah, there are.

[Ria Ciuffo]

There are, but I would say it's a popular show, but I just don't know if we're watching it.

[Fran Mariano]

Yeah, it's up there. It is always mentioned, I would say, for sure, as far as the highest. The highest rated. The highest rated shows. So can't blame them. But that's. Yeah, I've never. Not one I've ever gotten into.

[Ria Ciuffo]

I've tried. We couldn't do it. We couldn't do it. All right, let's do one more.

[Fran Mariano]

Hey, Rhian, Graham, this is Alexis from Chicago. I'm calling in again with another Mary Kill question. This time, I would love to hear your guys ask Mary Kill with the following channels. Disney Channel, Nickelodeon, and Cartoon Network, based on the shows that were, like, on those channels when you both were growing up. Because I personally don't know what I would do for either of those three, Because I just have such a nostalgic soft spot for multiple shows on all three of those channels, like Nickelodeon. We got Zoe101, iCarly, Rugrat. Just so many great shows. Disney Channel. We obviously have Hannah Montana, Street Life of Zack and Cody, which is a Waverly place, sunny with a Chance. Shake It Up, Cartoon Network, Imaginary Friends, Powerpuff Girls.

[Ria Ciuffo]

This is an easy one for me. It's a really great show.

[Fran Mariano]

So I genuinely don't know what I would do. So I'd love to hear what you guys think. So give us your ordinary call for those two.

[Ria Ciuffo]

I would assume we have the same answer. It's. It couldn't even be. I don't even have to think about it. It's Mary.

[Fran Mariano]

Disney.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Nickelodeon.

[Fran Mariano]

Kill cartoon network 100.

[Noah]

You gotta kill Cartoon Network.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Yeah, you have. In that circumstance, you have to kill.

[Noah]

I was never a Cartoon Network guy.

[Ria Ciuffo]

No. I mean, there were a couple shows on Cartoon Network or, you know, like, Adult Swim was like, whoa, I'm watching Adult Swim.

[Fran Mariano]

Yeah.

[Ria Ciuffo]

But I was always, like, sort of afraid of Cartoon Network.

[Fran Mariano]

Sometimes I was too. You know, there was. I was just some, like, courage. The courage. The Cowardly Dog, like, really, like, really bothered. Really bothered me as a kid.

[Ria Ciuffo]

And there were some, like, commercials that were kind of creepy on. On Cartoon Network. Yeah. It didn't pull you in, like, as, like, a kid, or maybe it did.

[Fran Mariano]

To other people, I would say. There was, like. There was some that I did love, like Ed, Edd and Eddie. I loved Dexter's Laboratory, Dexter's Laboratory, Johnny Bravo, Powerpuff Girls. But it was just never. It was just never high enough.

[Ria Ciuffo]

It also was all about cartoons. And I never was a huge cartoon. I mean, I loved Rugrats.

[Fran Mariano]

Yeah.

[Ria Ciuffo]

But that was when I was younger.

[Fran Mariano]

Courageously, Cowardly Dog, like, really just didn't sit well with me as a kid.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Yeah. I mean, you have to be a big cartoon person to pick Cartoon Network.

[Fran Mariano]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Ria Ciuffo]

And I wanted to, like, feel like I could live these people's lives, in which I felt with Disney and Nickelodeon.

[Fran Mariano]

Yeah. And I also feel like with Nickelodeon, like, Nickelodeon gave me just the right amount of cartoons that I wanted, too. And also because I was so much more of a spongebob kid.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Yeah, same. And Nickelodeon, though, with those shows, like, even Zoey 101 iCarly, Drake and Josh, like, they only la. They didn't last for very long.

[Fran Mariano]

No, they didn't.

[Ria Ciuffo]

Like, they were like, you know, like, Sweet Lives. That's so Raven. Like, Hannah Montana. Wizards. Those shows lasted way longer. There were so many more crossovers. There was movies like it was endless. Concerts like there was so much.

[Fran Mariano]

Yeah.

[Ria Ciuffo]

With Disney, even though Nickelodeon was great, but Disney is a clear marry there.

[Fran Mariano]

Yeah.

[Ria Ciuffo]

All right. And that wraps up the popcorner.

[Fran Mariano]

All right.

[Ria Ciuffo]

That wraps up today's episode of Ticks in the Office. Thank you so much for watching and listening. We love you guys, oh, so very much. And we'll talk to you on Friday. It.