DWTS Finale Preview, 'Special Forces' BTS w/ Shawn Johnson & Andrew East + ‘All Her Fault' Series Recap

Summary

CHICKS IN THE OFFICE
Ep: DWTS Finale Preview, 'Special Forces' BTS w/ Shawn Johnson & Andrew East + ‘All Her Fault' Series Recap
Date: November 24, 2025

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Episode Overview

This episode of Chicks in the Office, hosted by Ria and Fran, covers an eclectic pop culture roundup: a deep dive into the DWTS (Dancing With The Stars) finale, an exclusive interview with Shawn Johnson and Andrew East about their transformative journey on Special Forces, and a thorough, spoiler-rich discussion of the twisty thriller series 'All Her Fault.' As always, the Chicks mix humor, honesty, and relatable banter, tackling everything from Eagles football misery to Thanksgiving plans, beauty confessions, and recaps of their latest TV binges.

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Key Discussion Points & Highlights

1. Personal Catch-Up: Football Heartache, Friendsgiving & Thanksgiving Plans

Time: 02:32–19:19

• Fran processes the Eagles’ devastating loss ("Clock hit zero. I went power off..." – Fran, 05:24). She blames the coaching staff more than the players and finds solace in watching Netflix’s Frankenstein ("Putting on Frankenstein. Me mad." – Fran, 06:03).
• Ria hosts an impromptu Friendsgiving, experimenting with new recipes (shoutout to Teeny’s mac & cheese from TikTok). She reflects on the highs and lows of sweet potatoes and playful game night drama.
• Both co-hosts celebrate the cozy nothingness of a lazy fall weekend, with Ria discovering the joys of cold plunges and sauna therapy ("Who would have thought me and Matt are looking at each other. Like, who would have thought us two would like a cold plunge?" – Ria, 12:09).

2. Beauty Confessions: “I Have Grays!”

Time: 20:27–32:26

• Fran comes clean about coloring her hair for gray coverage at age 31, sparking a hilariously vulnerable conversation about aging, plucking that one gray hair ("At the root of it all, there's grays." – Fran, 22:00), and debunking the myth that pulling a gray makes more grow. (“No, that's a myth. Pulling out a gray hair does not cause more gray to grow…” – Fran, 25:58)
• Spirited debates about dream hair shades and color filters, but both agree to stick to their signature looks.

3. Thanksgiving Anecdotes & Anticipation

Time: 32:27–41:36

• Ria shares her intent to claim the coveted family “antipasto board” at her in-laws’ Thanksgiving, reflecting on funny family food rivalries and the high-stakes etiquette of holiday cooking.
• Both mourn their bygone days of Thanksgiving Eve bar crawls ("Thanksgiving Eve, by the way, doesn't exist in my book anymore." – Ria, 39:46), now preferring PJs, wine, and low-key get-togethers.

4. Dancing With The Stars Finale Preview

Time: 41:37–46:59

• The Chicks preview an unpredictable DWTS finale, pondering "popularity votes" and the possible upset if Dylan Efron snags the win.
• Refer to online theories and rumors (including Dumois gossip and preemptive Google search results) about the intensely competitive finale, and discuss whether the outcome is rigged or simply fan-driven. (“There was also a Dumois entry that said crikey and said that they had their winner picked out from the beginning.” – Ria, 46:29)

5. DWTS Couples & Support Discourse

Time: 47:00–49:57

• Debate erupts about Braxton Berrios' perceived lack of support for girlfriend Alex on DWTS. The hosts analyze NFL schedules, public expectations of partners at reality finales, and speculate about behind-the-scenes support versus visible, performative support.

6. Weekly Watch Report

Time: 53:19–109:21

A robust, rapid-fire segment where Fran, Ria, and Noah review what they've been watching:

Ria:

• Squid Game: The Challenge (B-) – Strong start, but lost steam.
• Eddie Murphy documentary (A) – “Loved learning about early days of Eddie Murphy.”
• Jonas Brothers Christmas Movie (C+) – Enjoyed the brothers but underwhelmed by the musical format.
• Sebastian Maniscalco’s special (C+) – Not as good as his classics.
• All Her Fault (A) – Gripping, unpredictable thriller. (“I love a show that ropes you in like that and makes you want to not go to sleep.” – Ria, 66:31)
• Kardashians (C+) – Entertaining, “Courtney’s got some problems.”
• The Beast in Me (B) – Good, but less captivating after All Her Fault.

Francesca:

• Selling Sunset (C-) – She’s no longer hooked but can’t stop watching.
• Selling the OC (C) – Sometimes more fun than flagship series.
• RHOSLC (B+) – “Salt Lake City’s been fantastic.”—Fran, 84:50
• Special Forces (B) – Impressed by women’s mental toughness.
• Frankenstein (Guillermo del Toro) (B) – Visually arresting, less horror than expected. “Leave it to Jacob Elordi to make that monster, like, still attractive.” – Fran, 88:22
• Wicked: For Good (B+) – Enjoyable, though two parts may have stretched content.
• Task (B+) – Strong, but emotionally heavy.

Noah:

• All Her Fault (B) – Preferred first half (“Got a little crazy at the end for me.” – Noah, 101:35)
• PLURIBUS (A-) – “Pretty crazy…kind of shocking that no one's done this idea.”
• Murdaugh (B) – The story’s wildness outweighs the show’s quality.
• Dancing With The Stars (B+) – Fun live event.
• The Beast in Me (B-) – Claire Danes is “a little bit too much quivering for me.”
• The Town (rewatch) (A)
• Ojai (Oh, Hi) (C) – Short, but lacked a likable character.
• Skipped full Jonas Brothers movie: “Not gonna grade that off the five minutes I had on…”

7. In-Depth Recap: ‘All Her Fault’ (SPOILERS)

Time: 66:31–78:13

• All Her Fault gets an enthusiastic A grade from both Ria and Fran. The hosts dissect the show’s masterful handling of red herrings, family secrets, and explosive final reveals, marveling at Jake Lacy and Sarah Snook’s performances and the emotional complexity surrounding child custody, trauma, and moral choices.
• On the ending: “The title’s All Her Fault, when really it’s all his fault.” – Ria, 69:34
• Everyone is in awe of child actor Duke McLeod (“Milo — cutest kid I’ve ever seen in my life.” – Fran, 76:47).

8. Interview: Shawn Johnson & Andrew East on ‘Special Forces’

Time: 109:21–141:14

Key Insights:

• First time as a couple: Sean explains she’d been asked to do the show from season one, but was finally able to – and pushed for Andrew to join. “They lowered their standards. They let me come on the show as the bargaining chip.” – Andrew, 111:13
• The Mental Game: Andrew is praised for his empathy and inability to lie in brutal interrogations; Shawn credits her Olympic training for her “flip the switch” mentality (“So much of this show is something that we would literally pay to do. I am an adrenaline junkie.” – Shawn, 123:28).
• Physical vs. Mental: Both praise the toughness of Gia Giudice (“Mentally, they [the women] were the quickest to think on their feet…” – Andrew, 125:52) and emphasize the uniquely non-glamorous, unscripted, unsupervised military environment.
• Family Impact: Shawn shares how completing the challenge revived confidence lost since her Olympic days, and Andrew hopes their daughter finds inspiration in the journey.
• Marriage & Podcasting: Their podcast, ‘Couple Things,’ is built on their determination to present honest, nuanced takes on marriage. They’re mindful about not “emotionally vomiting everything” for content, and instead discuss things they’ve worked through. Laughs ensue at the notion of podcasting about unresolved arguments (“Wouldn’t recommend it.” – Andrew, 133:36).
• Both stress continual growth and support as pillars of their partnership: “You always need to be trying to learn about your spouse and do better for them.” – Shawn, 135:50.

Memorable Moments:

• Fran, starstruck: “We have watched you since we were young girls. Being able to sit with you now and just see you finish this course was incredible.” – Fran, 121:44
• On podcast boundaries: “Whatever we talk about, we’ve worked through already.” – Andrew, 132:54
• On marriage: “The stronger I can help Shawn become, then the better she can help me…” – Andrew, 137:15

9. DWTS Finale Predictions (with Shawn & Andrew)

Time: 139:14–140:54

• All are shocked by Whitney’s elimination (“She is a phenomenal, magical dancer.” – Shawn, 139:32).
• Robert is named “star power” frontrunner; Dylan and Alex are rising contenders.
• Ria: “But I think Robert’s got this... just got this spark.” (140:11)

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Notable Quotes by Timestamp

• Fran on Eagles’ Loss (05:24): "The game ended, clock hit zero. I went power off."
• Ria on holiday game night (10:06): “He’s a game dictator.”
• Fran on gray hair (22:00): “At the root of it all, there’s grays.”
• Ria on holiday etiquette (33:04): “I wouldn’t want to step on boards. Step on toes.”
• Ria on sweet potatoes (08:46): “And I like sweet things, but sometimes it’s just too sweet.”
• Fran on child actors (76:47): “Milo—cutest kid I’ve ever seen in my life.”
• Fran on ‘All Her Fault’ (66:31): “I love a show that ropes you in like that and makes you want to not go to sleep.”
• Ria on DWTS finale (44:59): “You never know. Dancing With the Stars, Dylan Efron. You never know.”
• Andrew East, on Special Forces couple dynamic (111:18): “They lowered their standards. They let me come on the show just as the bargaining chip.”
• Shawn Johnson, on finishing Special Forces (122:44): “Being able to finish, that gave me a confidence back that I kind of have lost for a while.”
• Andrew East, on marriage (137:15): “The stronger I can help Shawn become, then the better she can help me become stronger.”

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Important Segment Timestamps

• Football/Life Update: 02:32–07:42
• Gray Hair/Beauty Chat: 20:27–32:26
• Thanksgiving Discourse: 32:27–41:36
• DWTS Finale Preview: 41:37–46:59
• Braxton & Alex DWTS Discussion: 47:00–49:57
• Weekly Watch Report: 53:19–109:21
• ‘All Her Fault’ Spoiler Recap: 66:31–78:13
• Special Forces Interview (Shawn & Andrew): 109:21–141:14
• Shawn & Andrew on DWTS Finale: 139:14–140:54

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Tone & Language

The Chicks’ signature humor is on full display, mixing sharp pop cultural observations with confessional, best-friend energy and unfiltered candor. The interview with Shawn and Andrew is warm, supportive, and genuinely insightful, with plenty of mutual admiration and lighthearted self-deprecation throughout.

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Summary Takeaways

This episode serves as a lively primer on what (and who) to root for as DWTS wraps up, delivers earnest relationship wisdom courtesy of Shawn and Andrew, and enthusiastically breaks down TV’s latest buzzy dramas (with ample spoilers). For listeners who missed the episode, this recap captures the vibe, heart, and humor of the Chicks, making you wish you were hanging out in the studio, glass of wine in hand, ready to rehash it all for Thanksgiving.

Transcript

[Francesca]

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[Intro Rapper]

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[Francesca]

What's up everyone?

[Ria]

It's Chicks in the Office with Ria and Fran giving you that Friday energy on a Monday. Happy Monday everybody. It is Thanksgiving week, so this is our last episode of the week. We have some exciting new merch dropping Black Friday, which always starts Thursday night after Thanksgiving. We have a cool crew Neck. We have a new hoodie that we're so excited to release. Just some classic chicks in the office merch for our loyal listeners. We're super excited about that. And then on top of that, we are two weeks away, almost two weeks away from our Philly holiday spectacular. It's our last show of the year, so make sure you get in those tickets, all of our Philly gals out there. And guys. Yeah, Whoever wants to come to the show, the tickets are available. And we can't wait to see you guys.

[Francesca]

Yes. It was gonna be so much fun. Tough night yesterday, though.

[Ria]

Oh, my gosh.

[Francesca]

Tough.

[Ria]

I looked up at the screen.

[Francesca]

Yeah.

[Ria]

And I thought, this is gonna be no good for Francesca tomorrow.

[Francesca]

No good, no good, no good.

[Ria]

I was expecting you to come in, like, Eagles gear today. The whole.

[Francesca]

I was ready.

[Ria]

I know. And I thought, oh, there's.

[Francesca]

Oh, my God. The group chat. It was 20. It was 21 nothing. The group chat was like, this is the kind of team we are. Like, we were like. It was like. Like, I was like, statement play. Like, this is like the we, and it just. It just crumbles.

[Ria]

You're rocking your Cowboys blue today.

[Francesca]

I know. I know. That is kind of true.

[Noah]

Yeah.

[Francesca]

I do love this blue.

[Ria]

It is a nice blue.

[Francesca]

But. Yes. Abercrombie as well. But, yeah, no, no green for me today. It was unpleasant, and I was watching by myself, and I was just, like, sitting in silence just watching it all. All crumble. It's not good. It's not good. And for my, like, 30 seconds of real football opinion on it, I find that I point my fingers at the coaching staff a lot more than I do the individual players. Like, this week, there's been a lot of drama this past week. Jalen, AJ all this drama within the players. I'm like, I don't think it's the players. I think it's the coaches. I think that our offensive coordinator is terrible, and now those fingers are pointing at him. Like, multiple players are kind of hinting that that's where the issue is coming from. And Nick Foles also, like, did a podcast, was like. Like, this is a fairly predictable offense, and it has been so. That was. That was tough. Tough.

[Shawn Johnson East]

Watch.

[Francesca]

I had to turn football off completely, which normally, like, late anyway. Yeah. But, you know, I'll watch Sunday Night Football, and it was supposed to be a good game. The Rams played really, really well. But, like, the game ended, clock hit zero. I went power off.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Francesca]

And I just, like, sat there, and then I took off for a walk. And then I came back and then I watched. I watched Frankenstein because I was like, you know what?

[Ria]

Alone.

[Francesca]

Yeah. I was like, I'm just gonna watch. I'm angry.

[Ria]

Was it scary?

[Francesca]

No, it really wasn't.

[Ria]

We'll get to it.

[Francesca]

Yeah, yeah. To be honest, really wasn't at all like the trailer made that seem 10 times scarier.

[Ria]

All the promo, the pictures, all the.

[Francesca]

Promo, like made it seem like it was. It was like a pret. Normal movie.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Francesca]

Some gross parts for sure, but like not. Whatever, I'll talk about it. But yeah, that's like. That was my mindset. I was like, I'm angry.

[Ria]

I'm gonna watch Frankenstein turning into the monster.

[Francesca]

Putting on Frankenstein. Me mad. And yeah, that was. That. That was it. That was not good. Not good.

[Ria]

No.

[Francesca]

So it's gonna be, you know, I'm not with my Mariano side for Thanksgiving. It's a. It's an in law Thanksgiving for me this year and I can only imagine the takes that will be flying across the Thanksgiving.

[Ria]

Oh yeah.

[Francesca]

Table. Thankfully they're not playing on Thanksgiving because that has happened in years past. And like my poor aunts who pour everything into Thanksgiving and then everyone's just watching the Eagles the entire time. They actually play on Friday.

[Ria]

That's nice though. A Friday game.

[Francesca]

Yeah, Friday game is. Friday game is nice for sure. I mean, say about a Friday game, but.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Francesca]

Not good.

[Ria]

Not good. Not good. Dang.

[Francesca]

Yeah.

[Ria]

Well, hopefully you had a nice weekend.

[Francesca]

Other than I did. I had a really nice weekend of doing nothing. Exactly like I had planned and exactly like I said I was gonna do. I committed to that and I did nothing.

[Ria]

So nice.

[Francesca]

It was amazing.

[Ria]

Glorious. Just glorious.

[Francesca]

Yeah.

[Ria]

We're coming back in refreshed. Yeah. Like some spring chickens.

[Francesca]

Seriously. Really? I'll just have to talk about the weekly watch for. Because I just watched. Was watching tv.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Francesca]

And just like lounging and having a nice time and like Saturday kind of got a little nice in the afternoon. Like the sun came out for a little. The weather's been pretty dreary around these parts.

[Ria]

It is.

[Francesca]

So the sun came out for a little bit and Joe and I took all of on like a nice long walk down the west side Highway. Which. Which was really nice. And that was like the longest I went outside.

[Ria]

I think the only weekend fair. Very fair. About.

[Noah]

Yeah.

[Francesca]

Yep, yep. What about you? I know you hosted like a little. A little friendsgiving. Yeah. It was very sorts.

[Ria]

It was very loud. I wouldn't even call it that. It was super last minute. I was just, you Know, I'm in the mood to cook this week. You know, Thanksgiving's around the corner, and I've been seeing these new recipes, and I just wanted to give it a go. Yeah. And then I was like, well, Matt and I are not gonna eat all this. All this food right now, so we might as well invite some people over. Noah did come over, friend. You were invited.

[Francesca]

You told me to come. I said, which I committed to my doing nothing. Totally understood.

[Ria]

I was like, I know you're probably not gonna come, but you can do that. So we cooked a lot on Saturday night. I think everybody enjoyed it.

[Noah]

Noah, it was very delicious.

[Ria]

Thank you. Thank you. Noah was going nuts over my sweet potatoes.

[Noah]

That's, like, my number one thing on Thanksgiving, honestly. Yeah, I love the marshmallows and all that.

[Francesca]

I did ask Ria what the menu was, and when she said it, and then she was like, I know how you feel about sweet potatoes, but I swear, these are really good. I'm like, no, I know they are potatoes. I. I am not a. I'm not a sweet potatoes gal.

[Noah]

That's like.

[Francesca]

It's just too sweet.

[Ria]

Sweet.

[Francesca]

And I like sweet things, but sometimes it's just too sweet. Now, granted, I have had some amazing sweet potatoes in my life, and I can enjoy a nice sweet potato, but, like, I'm not. That's not what I'm gunning for first.

[Ria]

You know, I. I love sweet potatoes just in general. Yeah. Sweet potatoes.

[Francesca]

And then, like, a sweet potato fry is not my.

[Ria]

Like, I'm like, no, I would prefer a regular fry, but I like a sweet potato. Yeah. And then the sweet potato marshmallows. Oh, and then I made Teeny's Mac and cheese. Teeny, if you know her from Tick Tock or Instagram, I made her Mac and cheese. I think I crushed it. I think I nailed it.

[Noah]

It's really good.

[Francesca]

It looked cheesy.

[Noah]

I don't know anything about the lore of that Mac and cheese, but it was very good.

[Ria]

Thank you. Nobody saw the process. I cooked before everybody came. I wanted to just sit back and relax when everyone was there, not be running around the kitchen. But I think I crushed it. I was proud of myself. I really focused. You know, you got to make sure that Roux is right, otherwise you're going to fuck up the whole cheesy blend of it. And I put out a video if people want to see the reveal on Instagram and TikTok. But it was a lot of fun, just relaxing. Just cooked good food and had some good wine and you know, played a lot of games. And you got Tommy, AKA Mussolini, yelling at everybody about how to play the games all night long.

[Francesca]

He's a game, Like a game dictator.

[Ria]

Yes. Noah.

[Noah]

Yeah. No, we were. It was me, him, and Kelly in the car there. And that's all. He's like, I can't wait to play this game. This game. And Kelly's like, you know, we can, like, talk to each other, right? Like, we can, like, we don't have to play games. The second we walk in, they walk in the door.

[Ria]

Tommy's immediately talking about games.

[Francesca]

What kind of, like, what kind of game?

[Ria]

Imposter. Oh, okay. We broke out. I love Scatter. So we broke out Scatter. Tommy hadn't played Scatter.

[Francesca]

I like, I like games like that.

[Ria]

So when we broke out categories, then he became the ma. He thought he was a master of categories after that. Of course he did. But as soon as they walk through the door, they're. They're talking about games, and Kelly's like, guys, we just walked through the door. Let's crack open a bottle of wine.

[Francesca]

Let's catch up.

[Ria]

Like, we're going to start playing games. We're going to have dinner first.

[Noah]

Watching the entire Dr. Mulaney.

[Francesca]

Yeah.

[Ria]

Yeah. We ended up watching the, the John Mulaney. It's just some Stan. I ended up, like, falling asleep on the couch. I was like, oh, my God, is anyone gonna leave yet?

[Francesca]

The telltale sign, you know, I'm like.

[Ria]

I'm like, I'm dozing off. I'm like, all right, this stand up is almost done. I'm kidding. But it was, it was lovely. And then otherwise, we did nothing as well. Just some relaxing. I went to sweat house, which is the contrast therapy place, which is cold plunge and froze sauna, the vitamin C shower we went on Friday. We loved it. It was so nice. Just, like, relaxing. You know, you put. It's a nice way to, like, be disconnected for an hour.

[Francesca]

Yeah, definitely.

[Ria]

Just you two sitting in the sauna, cold plunge, whatever, you know, forces you to be disconnected, which is really nice and relaxing. And then on Sunday, we were like, should we go back? And we, and we went back. We were like, let's go again. Amazing. And it was so nice Sunday, just doing it again. Came home, watched some more football, and then went to sleep. We were like, damn. Yeah. Who would have thought me and Matt are looking at each other. Like, who would have thought us two would like a cold plunge?

[Francesca]

Like, you know, But Singapore changed us.

[Ria]

I, I, it just is, is really. I tried it, for the first time, really nice and. And relaxing. And I, you know, I never thought I would like asana. Yes. I never thought I would like a cold plunge.

[Francesca]

Yeah.

[Ria]

But I do.

[Francesca]

I feel like it's probably really good for.

[Ria]

Like, your body, you know, in general.

[Francesca]

Yeah.

[Ria]

Yeah. I think that's what people say about it.

[Noah]

Yeah.

[Ria]

They say that it's supposed to be, like, really good.

[Francesca]

So you are somebody that has, you know, aches and pains from time to time.

[Ria]

Yes, somebody who, you know, suffers from my endometriosis and get aches and pains. But that's been better lately as well. But this must.

[Francesca]

I feel like this could.

[Ria]

This must amp it up even more probably. So. Yeah. That was lovely. And I mean, sleeping like a baby came in. I'm refreshed today. I got no more canker sores. Knock on wood. Whatever.

[Francesca]

It's one to me.

[Ria]

I. You have it?

[Francesca]

Yeah.

[Ria]

Shit. Just one, though. It's kind of going away.

[Francesca]

Well, we had the same thing. It was like last week, we were both run down, probably fighting off some sort of illness, which is always when the canker sores come. And I could tell, I felt it coming at the, like, the end of. Towards the end of last week, and I was like, ugh, it's. It's on its way out. It's. You know, I've passed.

[Ria]

Yeah, get the fuck out of here.

[Francesca]

It passed its peak, you know, you can tell it's past its peak.

[Ria]

I. I couldn't be more thrilled. Mine. I woke up like, Saturday morning and.

[Francesca]

I was like, whoa, I don't feel new. Lease on life.

[Noah]

Yeah.

[Francesca]

I was like, wow, I could talk.

[Ria]

It was amazing. Talk, eat, live. You know, last week I was kind of communicating to Matt and you through just, like, my brain because I was saving my talking for the podcast that when, like, I wasn't talking on the podcast, I would just be like. And you both were like, thank God we can understand you just by looking at you. So that worked. But now I woke up like, woo. I could talk. Yap, yap, yap. Everyone's really excited about that. But what was I gonna say? See, now I'm losing my train of thought. Cause I'm so excited.

[Francesca]

You just have so much to say.

[Ria]

I do, right? I feel like, so free my tongue. Feel. Feel free.

[Francesca]

Y.

[Ria]

Because I had it on my tongue and it was like a disaster. But I literally was struggling. But I tried a new thing last week and I texted you because, you know, everybody has their remedies. And by the way, if one more person Tells me to use salt water. As if I haven't learned that when I was eight years old.

[Francesca]

Right.

[Ria]

Like, I get it, but thank you. Thank you. I do appreciate the remedies. You know, I'm being a little bratty right now, but, like, come on, we learned that when we were younger.

[Francesca]

Yep.

[Ria]

One that I did not do was just putting salt directly on it. Like, you don't even do the salt water. You just take salt and you just burn that and you just go. So I saw this online, an old forum of somebody talking about it. I thought, my God, I'll do whatever it takes to burn this to the ground. Where these. Because they were multiple. And I looked myself in the mirror, and I said, you just do it the way. The way that I just looked in the mirror. And I tortured myself by putting salt on both ends of my tongue. And I'm drooling them out of my mouth. I got tears from my eye. Matt is hysterical laughing because I'm also laughing. So I'm like, yeah, I guess.

[Francesca]

Laugh, crying.

[Ria]

I feel like a crazy person right now.

[Francesca]

Yeah.

[Ria]

I feel insane. Holy hell. Did that burn? Like, I can't even. I don't want to even give a description because, oh, my God. Torturous. And then for hours after, it just burned.

[Francesca]

Yeah.

[Ria]

And burned and burned. Yeah. And it wasn't going away. And I was just on that couch just saying my hallelujahs, praying to the Lord to answer me. I haven't talked to you in a.

[Francesca]

While, but, God, this is the end.

[Ria]

Help me. Help me get through this. And then all of a sudden, no pain. Nothing. I feel nothing in my mouth. I look in the mirror, I see nothing. I'm like, what's going on? Did they rapidly disappear?

[Francesca]

Yeah.

[Ria]

Woke up the next morning. They're back. They're back. And then woke up the next morning, gone. I'm like, these. These are tricky. Yeah. They want to play.

[Francesca]

They really are.

[Ria]

They play with your heart. They make you think they're gone. All of a sudden, they. They swoop back in.

[Francesca]

I know, I know.

[Ria]

But I'm happy to report they're gone. And I went to dinner with my friends Thursday night, and we wanted to have some wine, and I was like, I don't know, guys. I don't know. Is this going to make it worse or is it going to kill this? And part of me wants to tell myself it. It had a helping hand.

[Francesca]

Right.

[Ria]

You know, they would say that alcohol would irritate it.

[Francesca]

Yeah, absolute. Any kind of a alcohol. The bacteria killed it.

[Ria]

In my brain, that's what I want to go with. And by the way, I didn't like the restaurant we went to, but that's a whole other. Yeah, I don't want to shout out the restaurant or anything.

[Francesca]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, I know where you went. It's a. It's a hot spot.

[Ria]

It's a hot spot. And my goodness. None of us liked it. Oh, my gosh. Wow. Yeah. Wow. Cold food.

[Francesca]

Oh, yeah. That's tough.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Francesca]

Funny enough, I actually went where. Joe and I went out Thursday night as well, little date night. And the couple next to us also sent back their food because it was cold.

[Ria]

Oh, we didn't send ours back.

[Francesca]

No, they sent it.

[Ria]

They said.

[Francesca]

They said, heat this up.

[Ria]

Yeah, we're not eating this.

[Francesca]

And. And. And to be fair, they ordered a whole chicken, and it was cold, so they were just.

[Ria]

Yeah, no, that.

[Francesca]

That's, like, warm up.

[Ria]

No, but I wouldn't. Even after that, like, with chicken, I would be like, well, now you got to warm it up. And now I'm gonna get.

[Francesca]

Well, here's the thing. Like, it was cold. I mean. I mean, it was. It was cooked right. It just was.

[Ria]

But when.

[Francesca]

Chicken temperature.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Francesca]

Like, it just wasn't seeming hot, I guess. Meanwhile, I mean, the meal I had was absolutely fantastic, so I'm probably jealous. Yeah, they. They seemed, you know, like. You know, especially in a New York City restaurant where if you're a party of two, sometimes you get put in the section where those tables are so close together. We talked about this before.

[Ria]

You're basically sitting with the other people.

[Francesca]

Basically at the table with these people, and you can't help but listen to what these. What they're saying, you know? And this couple had a lot of opinions, a lot of.

[Ria]

A lot.

[Francesca]

Like, a lot of back and forth.

[Ria]

On the wine that. Between the two of them, wine snobs.

[Francesca]

Like, multiple bottles of wine were brought out to them for them to try.

[Ria]

Really?

[Francesca]

Yes.

[Ria]

They just seem like snobby people.

[Francesca]

Yeah, right. Which is why, like, when they. She was like, the chicken's called. I was like, of course. You're like, I need to get a.

[Ria]

Temp check on that.

[Francesca]

I was like, of course it is. But no, yeah, it was nice. We did dinner and a little jazz. Lovely little jazz club. Little jazz club. Sexy little jazz club. Yeah.

[Ria]

Yeah, I love that. How fun.

[Francesca]

It was nice. It was really nice.

[Ria]

Thanksgiving.

[Francesca]

Little jazz trio.

[Ria]

Oh, my God. Little drinks and jazz.

[Francesca]

Little martini and jazz.

[Ria]

That's what we had.

[Francesca]

It was delightful. But, yeah, that's That's.

[Ria]

And then.

[Francesca]

And then after that, like, I was like, Thursday, we're going out. We're having a nice dinner. And then after that, I was like, I will be doing nothing for the rest of the weekend.

[Ria]

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[Francesca]

I. I do have a personal. Personal announcement.

[Ria]

Okay. I. I just want to say that I. I was going to say the word. I was going to say the word Thanksgiving, and it just, like, kind of just in case it flew under the radar and everyone heard me say.

[Francesca]

Oh, I didn't hear you.

[Ria]

Yes. And it flew by. But, yeah, I want to acknowledge that before everyone's like, she just randomly blurted out thanksgiving.

[Francesca]

Thanksgiving.

[Ria]

No one. But anyways, I want to hear the personal announcement.

[Francesca]

I have officially reached the point in my life at 31 years old where I am not just coloring my hair for fun. I am coloring it because my grays are out of control.

[Ria]

What?

[Francesca]

Out of control?

[Ria]

You got grays?

[Francesca]

A lot of them. Tons.

[Ria]

Well, here's the thing. I'm pretty sure I do as well.

[Francesca]

But take a look through here. She looked.

[Ria]

She went, oh, no. Oh.

[Francesca]

And you know what? I knew when I thought about saying this this morning as I was getting ready, I said, I'm gonna show Ria, and I know she's gonna be honest with me, and she's probably gonna go, oh. And that's exactly what just happened. Because they're there. They're tucked underneath, so it's not like it's.

[Ria]

They're here.

[Francesca]

Yeah, but they're there.

[Ria]

They're there. They're there.

[Francesca]

Where? Now. Now, the more I do ponytails, I'm like, oh, no, I haven't worn my hair up in a while because it's like, it's. They're all underneath.

[Ria]

Your hair looks beautiful.

[Francesca]

Thank you. But yes, but, yes, they're there.

[Ria]

So now at the root.

[Francesca]

Yeah, at the root. At the root of it all, there's grace.

[Ria]

They're at the root, which is just relatable at this age.

[Francesca]

It is. I just. That's why I wanted to share with you all, because I'm sure there are fellow ladies with that getting their grays are coming in.

[Ria]

I got one. I got a gray up here, but you have one. It's one. It's one. And I actually don't want to get rid of it. I like, like her.

[Francesca]

Yeah, I know it's one, and I've seen it.

[Ria]

It's one. And you've. And I could pull it out, but I don't.

[Francesca]

Honestly, the. I applaud you for not doing that, because I would be unable, because probably at least a year now, I would just. I just pull them. And I know you're not supposed to do that. And then everybody says they grow back worse. And here I am saying, I have a ton now, so blah, blah, blah, whatever. But when you would get the ones that are the little short hairs, and they're like, right here on the top, there's just a gray hair sticking up. Alfalfa style. Like, I'm gonna pluck that. Sorry. It's going. And I've done it before, as you should, with, like, a slick back. Slick back of my hair. And then there's one little gray hair poking out from the side. I'm pulling it.

[Ria]

I have that. And I have yet to pull it. And I don't know what's stopping me. But sometimes I look in the mirror, I'm like, there she is. And I just leave her there. And I'm like, But, like, she should be pulled. She should be pulled. But back to.

[Francesca]

We've never discussed that hair. But I have thought about it, and in my head, I thought, is she gonna pull this? No. But after, like, the third time, I was like, she clearly knows it's there and wants it to be there.

[Ria]

I don't even know. It's like a piece of me that I can't get rid of for some reason.

[Francesca]

Exactly. Now, but some people now, like, it's like, I maintain my color. I have an appointment next. I think I have an appointment next week after Thanksgiving. I'm at the point where it's like, well, now it's not just to maintain the red. I gotta cover those bad boys up.

[Ria]

Have you ever thought about going full gray? No.

[Francesca]

No.

[Ria]

Okay.

[Francesca]

Nope.

[Ria]

I wouldn't even. I'm not suggesting it. I just suggest.

[Noah]

No.

[Francesca]

And I, you know, and you know, I have a few grays. Rhea, I'm not at the point of going full. She saw like five gray hairs. She was like, have you thought about just going gray? She just embraced the gray.

[Ria]

I would hope that it would take silver fox.

[Francesca]

I would hope that I'm at the point where it would be a lot of years before I'm going fully 1,000%. But no, I will be. I will be maintaining the color that I currently have.

[Ria]

And as you should.

[Francesca]

It's a gorgeous color. Said Grace.

[Ria]

You shouldn't. It's a gorgeous color.

[Francesca]

Too much salt and pepper. You know, that's what my dad, you know, that's such a, you know those dad things. Like the. We talk about this, we talk about this often. Like turn the light on in the back of the car and you're gonna get pulled over. Like the lies your dad would tell you. And that was the one my dad always said had too much salt. Ate his food with too much salt.

[Ria]

Pepper. Too much salt. Pepper. Oh, classic. Yeah. Yeah.

[Francesca]

I don't think that's my problem.

[Ria]

Francesca, you're eating salt and pepper over there.

[Francesca]

Yep. But here it is. Mark it in the calendars. 30, 31. I got to start covering these bad.

[Ria]

Boys and maybe she'll get pulled.

[Francesca]

I don't know. I think you should keep her. Cuz at this point, like, here's the thing, maybe it is proof of the theory of, you know, when you pull one, three more grow back or whatever the heck they people say, because you've just had that one and that's it.

[Noah]

I don't think that's a real thing.

[Ria]

I wonder if my hairdresser. I wonder if my hairdresser looks at my hair when, when she does it. Like not dyeing it, but like when I get a blowout, she's like, I mean, is she gonna pull this thing? Like this thing's still here.

[Francesca]

Well, that's what I'm saying. But is it true that if you.

[Noah]

I think it's more just like more gray hair grows in over time.

[Francesca]

So like gray hair grows in.

[Ria]

I don't know. I mean, it wasn't.

[Francesca]

No, that's a myth. Pulling out a gray hair does not Cause more gray hairs to grow in its place. Each hair grows from a single follicle. Pulling out one gray hair only affects that one follicle, not the others around it. It may grow back gray again, but it won't cause neighboring hairs to turn gray.

[Ria]

Okay, so should I make a video of me pulling this one hair?

[Noah]

I like that it says it may grow back. Like, it definitely will go back. Right?

[Francesca]

Well, sometimes they don't.

[Ria]

Patreon. I make a Patreon, and it's just me pulling. It's just gray hair.

[Francesca]

And it's like. Just like the. Like a funeral march.

[Ria]

Yeah. I might do. Oh, my God. Auction off that one. Gray hair. Yes.

[Francesca]

First gray hair.

[Noah]

You should. Yeah. Frame that.

[Ria]

Yes.

[Francesca]

Why people think it happens as we age, more follicles naturally lose pigment. So if someone pulls out a gray hair and later notices more grays, it's because they were going to turn gray anyway, not because of the plucking.

[Noah]

My thing is, stress is an actual cause of gray hair. Right. That's not a myth.

[Ria]

I don't know.

[Noah]

I think it is. I think because people always joke, oh, you must be stressed. But I think it actually does impact it.

[Francesca]

Stress can contribute to gray hair, but it's not the only cause.

[Ria]

I think gray hair just speeds up. It's a part of life.

[Francesca]

Yeah.

[Ria]

I think everybody. Some people don't, but most people do.

[Francesca]

Stress doesn't cause all gray hair. It mainly speeds up the process in people who are already genetically predisposed.

[Ria]

All the stress is just in this one strand hanging on. This one strand of hair has taken on all the stress.

[Noah]

The hair is like. I could use a little help here, guys.

[Ria]

Oh, shit.

[Francesca]

Gray hair can return to its original color, but it's not.

[Ria]

Not likely.

[Francesca]

Not likely. Well, cases are rare.

[Ria]

Listen, you gotta dye it anyway because of the red.

[Francesca]

Yeah, right. Like, I'm covered up.

[Ria]

Keep. Anyway.

[Francesca]

But I was like, I definitely spread them out more, my appointments, like, a few months. And it may not. I may have to shorten the time in between.

[Ria]

Right. You just may need to go more frequently.

[Francesca]

Exactly, Exactly.

[Ria]

Exactly. You know, what's a color I've always wanted to do? I will never, ever do it. Like, I will never do it. It will not be good for my hair. I can't do it. It's like Cherry Cola red.

[Francesca]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Ria]

I've always, like. You know what I mean?

[Francesca]

Yeah.

[Ria]

You and Gia can, like, do the Cherry Cola red. You guys got that red in you? Yeah, my sister has done it, and it looks. It's great. On her. I am not a cherry cola person. And I won't, like. I won't. I will not experiment with it. It's not in my forte color.

[Francesca]

Have you ever used, like, the. The filter? Like the. Like. Yes. Snapchat filter?

[Ria]

Oh, yeah. And I've been like, damn, girl. But you just know that that's not realistic. Yeah. And it's not in my forte of colors. I have to keep the forte of colors.

[Francesca]

What would make your eyes very. Look, look, look. Margarine.

[Ria]

Oh, thank you. But don't. Don't.

[Francesca]

No, I. I'm not encouraging that. I don't.

[Ria]

I don't think it will never happen. But it's like everybody has that one hair color that. Where they go, what if. Yeah, but they don't actually.

[Francesca]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Ria]

I gotta stick to my range these days where it's just like, either, like it's, you know, light brown with blonde or brown, you know, anywhere from. I think anywhere from a brown to a. To a light brown with blonde.

[Francesca]

Yeah.

[Ria]

I'm. Where I'm lying.

[Francesca]

That's.

[Ria]

You know what I mean? That's. This.

[Francesca]

That's.

[Ria]

That's my wheelhouse.

[Francesca]

Right. That's a safe. Safe space.

[Ria]

And you're safe with this beautiful.

[Francesca]

I like hair around this one. I. The only one I've never really done is, like, super dark, like. Like a. I don't. I don't know.

[Ria]

Auburn. Why did we just say that at the same exact time in the same.

[Noah]

Voice that sweet life is acting, Cody line.

[Ria]

I don't know.

[Noah]

You don't know?

[Ria]

Oh, yeah. Honey.

[Noah]

Honey, you missed auburn or something.

[Ria]

Yeah, honey, you missed.

[Francesca]

Oh, yeah. Gone straight to right, Isn't it like, honey, you miss this one. Straight to. What is it?

[Ria]

Honey?

[Francesca]

Honey or honey, that's not. What does he say?

[Noah]

The box said it would be a honeymoon Auburn. And then he goes, honey mist.

[Ria]

Auburn. Wow.

[Francesca]

Great joke. But, no, I think I'm. Yeah. I don't really know. And people ask me that all the time. They're like, what do you ask for when you go to the salon? And I don't even know, like, necessarily what I asked for the first time I went. But now, like, me and my. My hair lady, we just know. So when I go in, I'm just like, you know, give me the.

[Ria]

Give me the good stuff.

[Francesca]

Fix it up. And she's like, got you.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Francesca]

And then we just kind of like, do the same. Do the same stuff.

[Ria]

Well, that is your color, honey. Yeah.

[Francesca]

Yeah.

[Ria]

You did not miss auburn.

[Francesca]

Yes. And Gia. Like, I had A funny, funny back and forth with Gia about it because my sister, if you saw, did just go like a similar reddish brown color and I replied to her Instagram story like, was like. And she was like, wait, I feel like your hair is like, not red. And I was like, what? And then she was like, I'm crazy and it totally is. And we laughed and we're like, yeah, you know, it does make sense.

[Ria]

You're sister. Yeah. And yep, you can pull off the same. The same hair color. Yeah. Yeah.

[Francesca]

Hers is a little darker right now, but that's also just cuz she. She like just got it done, you know, so it makes a difference because my. Like when I get it done and that's that darker, it gradually gets lighter. And it's also because all of my hair mostly, you know, whatever at this point, probably from my ear down, is hair that's been bleached at some point because I used to go lighter.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Francesca]

So it's like once the darker red starts to fade, it kind of goes back to being like a lighter color. Lighter.

[Ria]

So.

[Francesca]

But yeah, anyway, that's my hair journey. I got grays. I'm old as fuck.

[Ria]

You're not. Oh, you're young, honey.

[Noah]

I got my first grade when I was like 17.

[Francesca]

It's different for boys.

[Ria]

Sigh. Whatever.

[Francesca]

It's always different for boys. The dub, you know, guy starts to go red, gray, silver fox. They look so good. Girls go gray. Guys not the same.

[Noah]

You're thinking of like movie stars. I feel like.

[Ria]

Well, no, no, I. Matt's got a little.

[Francesca]

Matt's got a little salt and pepper in his beard.

[Ria]

I like it.

[Francesca]

Yeah. So, yeah, it's.

[Ria]

It's very, you know, not a lot.

[Francesca]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Ria]

But I'm like, ooh. Yeah. Anyways, Thanksgiving is. Is around. Oh, yeah.

[Francesca]

Here's the thought about Thanksgiving.

[Ria]

Sorry.

[Francesca]

Thanksgiving is around.

[Ria]

Thanksgiving. Finally Thanksgiving is around the corner. It's on Thursday. And now we are spending it with Matt's family. Yep. I took a job away from somebody. I did.

[Francesca]

You said you weren't gonna do that.

[Ria]

I said I wasn't. But. But you were told. But I was told. Well, I offered and I said I make a beautiful board. An antipas. I make a beautiful antipas board. Can I?

[Francesca]

Yeah. Well, that's an app.

[Ria]

No, it's an app. And I said, can I? But somebody else, usually an aunt, usually makes it. And I asked my in laws, I said, can I? And they said, we'll talk to her. Mm. And she might be happy to give it up.

[Francesca]

Right, Right. And instead of having dueling boards.

[Ria]

Right. Because I just wouldn't make one then. Right. I wouldn't want to step on boards. Step on toes.

[Francesca]

Well, honestly, that's a hilarious. That's like. That's, like, a very funny skit. Like, I'm sure maybe SNL has made this at some point of, like, dueling the new member of the family coming in and to the holiday where, like, everybody has a set plate and you, like, walking in in slow mo with your giant, like, cheesy, amazing Mac and cheese. And the aunt that makes the Mac and cheese is, like, what the fuck?

[Ria]

No, literally. Because that would probably be, like, as an aunt, like, thinking about me years down the line.

[Francesca]

Like, there's, like, a. There's a fan blowing. Your hair's, like, blowing in the wind.

[Ria]

I got a fresh blowout.

[Francesca]

You're carrying the Mac and cheese, and you're like, I made the Mac and cheese.

[Ria]

Oh, that is an SNL skit.

[Francesca]

Yeah.

[Noah]

No, but speaking of SNL skits, I want to get Fran's opinion.

[Ria]

You're blowing on my spot.

[Noah]

Okay, go ahead.

[Francesca]

Right in the middle of her story.

[Noah]

And it's gonna be very quick.

[Ria]

It's fine. I. I just don't want my. He's blown on my spot. They, Tommy and Noah were. Were so set that this SNL skit was so funny. The Nate Bargazzi. Like, George Washington.

[Francesca]

The George. Yeah.

[Ria]

And I just didn't find it that funny. Like, I was like, this is not funny.

[Noah]

Understatement.

[Ria]

It's not an. I just was like, they wanted me to be, like, cackling. I'm like, I. Okay. He's talking about things. Like, all.

[Noah]

Don't.

[Francesca]

Yeah. Right. It's like. It's like a. Like a drunk history kind of.

[Ria]

Yeah. And, like, do you think it's the funniest skit you've ever seen?

[Francesca]

No.

[Noah]

No one ever said it was the funniest.

[Ria]

No, the way that they were.

[Noah]

I said, it's one of the funniest skits in the last 10 years. SNL.

[Ria]

They just were hyping it up so much. Like, this is so funny. Yeah. You have to watch it. And we put it on, and I was like, yeah.

[Francesca]

And I think I actually. He has a very particular sense of humor, I think. Nate Barga.

[Noah]

Yeah.

[Francesca]

Where it's like, sometimes it's very hit or miss for me. Like, sometimes I think it's very funny, and sometimes I don't. It's a funny sketch, and I know people rave about it. They're like, this is. And I mean, granted, it was such a popular sketch.

[Ria]

He.

[Francesca]

He did it again for the award show. That.

[Ria]

What did he do The Emmys? Yeah.

[Noah]

SNL50. Or he did it again. Did it again for SNL50. And then he did it for. Hosted the Golden Globe. We should have shown you that one, too.

[Francesca]

But that would, like. They did again. It's like that. That's what annoys me. Like. But when they did again at the Golden Globes, I was like, this is making the original one not as funny.

[Noah]

Oh, I don't agree with.

[Ria]

And this is exactly what I said. I knew that Fran would agree with me. They were like, no. Was like, we'll see if Fran finds it funny. I go, I bet friend doesn't think this is that.

[Francesca]

Yeah. And as an SNL apologize, it is funny. I'm not saying it's not funny, but I'm not, like. I probably, like, laugh at other sketches more than that.

[Ria]

Yeah, I agree. Yeah. So I just, like, this was, like, a whole thing Saturday night where a.

[Francesca]

Whole debate about it.

[Ria]

Like, Tommy and Noah were, like, getting so worked up that we weren't, like, cackling at this. And by the way, we were watching, they weren't laughing either.

[Francesca]

Yeah, well, I've seen it a thousand.

[Noah]

Times, and I'm trying to, you know, I'm trying to, like, hear your reaction.

[Ria]

But I don't want to be the person, like, it's not funny, because I know people think it's funny. Yeah. They enjoy it. Personally, I wasn't cracking up.

[Francesca]

Yeah. Like, when I. When I saw the whole, like, Domingo thing for the first time, I probably thought that I, like, probably laughed harder at that than I did.

[Ria]

I laughed harder at Marcelo being Sebastian Maniscalco.

[Francesca]

Yeah.

[Noah]

But I said, you just like Sebastian Maniscalco. He's just doing an impression of Sebastian Maniscalco.

[Francesca]

Yeah, but it's kind of fair.

[Ria]

It's Italian.

[Francesca]

A very particular, like, you know, that's the type of sketch. That's a very dry sense of humor sketch.

[Noah]

To each their own.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Francesca]

Not everyone thinks it's, you know.

[Ria]

Exactly.

[Noah]

I'm not even, like, a Nate Bargazi guy. I think he's funny, but I don't really know much about him. I just thought that was a funny sketch. But anyways.

[Ria]

Yeah. So what was I saying about the Thanksgiving? My board.

[Francesca]

We were. We were honestly. We were going. We were having a really funny riff.

[Ria]

We were riffing.

[Francesca]

We were having a really funny riff about you stealing your aunt's food. And then Noah brought in The SNL thing. And now the moment's over. But you're making a board.

[Ria]

But I am making. I'm making the antipas.

[Francesca]

The aunt relinquished the board.

[Ria]

And I did make that comment. Like that obnoxious comment, let the new generation step in. And which now I am. And now they're like, this board better be fucking fantastic because you just stepped in and took a board. But I would never take it if. If she was so passionate about it. I think she was ready to be like, yeah, go for it, Go for it.

[Francesca]

And that's like, you know, a board is more of a. Of a creative outlet than it is full blown cooking. It's like, it's assembling. It's almost like a puzzle. Well, that's why I put the puzzle pieces together and it. And sometimes that's one where it's like, hey, if you don't. That's one. I'd be like, oh, you make the board this year.

[Ria]

Right?

[Francesca]

Exactly.

[Ria]

And like, that's like relaxing to me. Like I get pure joy out of assembling a board and being creative. Ooh, where am I gonna put this? Where are you gon agree?

[Francesca]

I love it.

[Ria]

It's like so fun. So I did. And then I'm making some other. Some other things, you know, stuff mushrooms and things of that sort that I had been making for the past couple years.

[Francesca]

Yeah. So you know, bring some sticking some more Italian flare to the Thanksgiving. Yeah.

[Ria]

Sticking to the class. I did offer to. I was like, you guys want me to make stuffed shells? And they were like, well, cuz like at my Thanksgiving on my side, like my mom always makes like stuffed shells and meatballs and all that on top of the Thanksgiving food. But always happens, and it happens every year is that everyone gets. That's like the first course and everyone gets full. Full on the Italian food. And then when it comes to the Thanksgiving food, everyone's like, but then you have it for the next day, so whatever. But I'm just.

[Francesca]

Yeah, my mother in law is like that. We always do like a ravioli. Her homemade ravioli is the. The primi piatti.

[Ria]

Ah, gosh.

[Shawn Johnson East]

And then we're.

[Francesca]

And then we're like, we just are full on.

[Ria]

Lita, send some my way. I know she's listening. Lita, send some to me.

[Francesca]

She makes some bomb raviolis.

[Ria]

I want hand roll.

[Francesca]

Oh, hand rolls them all.

[Ria]

That's gorgeous.

[Francesca]

Yep.

[Ria]

Oh my God, that's to die for. Well, we are clearly ready for Thanksgiving.

[Francesca]

Because it's all about ready. But I mean, we Always.

[Ria]

Like, this is the classic. Every year people talk about the night before Thanksgiving. Like, yeah, yeah. Thanksgiving Eve, by the way, doesn't exist in my book anymore.

[Francesca]

No, we're. It's. It's over. Wait, Thanksgiving Eve is. I got gray hair.

[Ria]

Yeah, come on. Fran is aging rapidly to the right of me.

[Francesca]

I got gray hair is over for me. Thanks to Eve.

[Ria]

Thanks to Eve. Are you nuts?

[Francesca]

Yeah.

[Ria]

No, no, that's just not. It's just not a thing anymore. And Thanksgiving Eve is about getting in your comfies, getting in your cozies, whatever that may be to you. Some pajamas. Maybe you're throwing on Christmas pajamas. Who gives a fuck? It's Thanksgiving. The next day, you're already on to Christmas. Santa comes out, it's Christmas time. You get in your. Your PJs or whatever it is. Maybe you have some. Some wine. Maybe you have a little drink at home. Maybe you play a game the most. I bet you play a game.

[Francesca]

Definitely playing a game the most. The most I'll do now is, like, bring a bottle of wine over to a friend's and we all, like, sit and sit in our pajamas and chat, for sure.

[Ria]

Or you go to dinner with friends and you keep it casual. Whatever it is, it's no longer hitting your nearest bar or pub.

[Francesca]

No.

[Ria]

You know.

[Francesca]

No, no, no. I saw a very cute TikTok, though. If you know the trend that's happening right now of everyone being like, in your 20s, you're gonna meet this, and it's very important you do this.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Francesca]

You know, and a lot of. It's like people meeting their husbands or anything. I did see a cute one. That was a girl being like, in your 20s, you're gonna, you know, you're gonna see your high school crush on Thanksgiving Eve. It's. It's like, very important you talk to him or whatever. And it was them getting married. That's a nice long story.

[Ria]

That's a good one. Thanksgiving.

[Francesca]

Reconnecting on Thanksgiving is a good one because I feel like a lot of people talk about the horror stories of Thanksgiving Eve, but, you know, sometimes. Sometimes there's a win. Sometimes there's a win.

[Ria]

There is. And that's. That's one of them.

[Francesca]

Yep.

[Ria]

But excited for the rest of the week. And then we will be back with a new episode on Monday. We won't have an episode for the rest of the week. Which, by the way, guys.

[Francesca]

No, sorry.

[Ria]

Dancing with the Stars was my surprise as well.

[Francesca]

Oh. Oh.

[Ria]

I.

[Francesca]

No one. Well, no more excited.

[Ria]

I fully thought that we had an episode coming out on Wednesday. Like, I thought we're coming back in to record on Tuesday. This has just been in my brain. Yeah. Four months last week I found out we don't have an episode on Wednesday. So I'm sorry, guys.

[Noah]

Sorry. Amazing. If we had showed up tomorrow alone.

[Ria]

Here's the thing, guys.

[Francesca]

And how long do they wear? We made this decision months ago, like.

[Noah]

A beginning of the year.

[Ria]

I mean, we made this decision in January together. Right.

[Francesca]

We have to, we have to go to the calendar like early at the.

[Ria]

Beginning of every year. Probably actually at the end of December every year. We make our calendar. We make our calendar for the full next year. Yeah. So you can imagine color coded by the time it's color coded and everything, but by the time it gets to this time.

[Francesca]

Yeah.

[Ria]

We made the calendar a year ago.

[Francesca]

Yeah.

[Ria]

So when we decided, oh, we're going to take that day, God, I just, it just slipped my brain and I was ready to, you know, come back in, give everyone an episode on Wednesday. But these two next to me, they said, no, no, no, we don't want an episode.

[Francesca]

But say it was already planned. You know, sales input, ads, you know, it was planned.

[Ria]

We, we planned it last December.

[Francesca]

Yeah.

[Ria]

And yeah.

[Francesca]

However, I did realize over the weekend I was like, shit, Dancing with the Stars. We won't be talking about the finale till next week. But that's. We'll have some time to let that really marinate and see how it ends.

[Ria]

Like a video.

[Francesca]

And sometimes it's, you know, the finale is not as much drama as the rest of the season.

[Ria]

No.

[Francesca]

Because someone wins and that's happy. Unless.

[Ria]

Unless Dylan wins.

[Francesca]

There's a, you know, unless.

[Ria]

Because if Dylan Efron wins, that'd be crazy.

[Francesca]

That'd be crazy.

[Ria]

Yeah. I would be really happy to. Here's the thing. I don't think Elaine should win, but I would be very happy.

[Francesca]

Yeah. Yeah, yeah. And Dylan, like, I'd be extremely happy.

[Ria]

I would be happy for Dylan too. I just would be like, you should. You did that one, you know. Yeah.

[Francesca]

No, Right.

[Noah]

But neither of them are better than Robert or Alex.

[Ria]

No, no. But I'm just saying that would be a shock. Like, that would to me would be like a popularity vote came in, Andy thing, you know.

[Francesca]

Right. I really do enjoy all of these finalists. So it's like, you know, if Jordan gets the way, if some. If there's a surprise win in here, because I know a lot of people probably think it's going to be Robert or Alex. There's a Surprise win, I think. I don't know if I'm going to have, like, some big animated reaction.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Francesca]

I think it's going to be like, oh, I'm so happy for, like, happy for them, not who I voted for, you know, And. And I'd be like, and at this point, it's been such a crazy season that it's like, ah, crazy season ends. And sometimes that's what happens too, though. And especially with five people in the finale, there could be a situation where everybody is so set on Robert or Alex and they're voting. Because I do think you. You have the option to vote for multiple people. But I do think a lot of times in the finale, people do pick one person and vote for them. But just like any election, you got people voting for Robert, Alex. They could be splitting the young person vote. And then all of a sudden, Dylan sneaks in there and you're like, well, the vote was split between Robert and Alex. Here comes our winner, Dancing with the Stars, Dylan Efron. You know, you never know.

[Noah]

Do you think that he asked Zach, can you, hey, do you mind posting on your story? Or Zach just did that?

[Francesca]

No, I mean, I think Zach's publicist. I mean, I don't think Zach typed out that Instagram story. Someone did that for him.

[Ria]

Zach was looking around, being like, is this a good score? So I think Zach is being told kind of what to do here, but he's also. Which one?

[Francesca]

I also think if you're going to be there, if he's showing up and he's actually there in the crowd, it's like, why? I'll post a vote, you know?

[Ria]

Yeah. I mean, listen, it's his brother and he's supporting him.

[Francesca]

Yeah.

[Ria]

The thing I saw was people were saying, like, Robert Irwin has an entire continent using a VPN to vote for him as well. And then on top of that, if you Google who won Dancing with the Stars, it says Robert Irwin won. So people are not happy with that because they think that it's, like, premeditated. Yeah. Which I think that sometimes, like, the AI Google thing just does that. It does it and it just, like, predicts or predicts or whatever. Yeah, predicts. Like, why am I saying predicts?

[Francesca]

Predicts. Why am I saying, like, pre dicks.

[Ria]

Pre dicks. Okay, I'm like, malfunctioning.

[Francesca]

Well, now you're just saying dicks.

[Ria]

I know I'm malfunctioning. It just keeps sounding like I'm saying dicks over and over again.

[Francesca]

Like, yeah, predicts, predicts dicks.

[Ria]

Like, I'm really trying to pronounce the ts on that, not K. All right. Well, anyways, it says Robert Irwin. So people are like, right. Upset about that. And they're like, oh, it's premeditated. Dancing with the Stars.

[Francesca]

Because there was also, it feels written in the stars.

[Ria]

There was also a Dumois entry that said crikey and said that they had their winner picked out from the beginning.

[Francesca]

Which I don't believe that sounds like a disgruntled Dancing with the Stars fan.

[Ria]

Yes.

[Francesca]

Check my, check my, my scent folder. Yeah, that sounds like a disgruntled fan. That's like, this shit's rigged, right?

[Ria]

Yeah, I, I think that, you know, whatever. I think it could. I think it's a toss up. Who knows? We shall see. I'm very excited to watch.

[Francesca]

Well, you know who won't be in the. Probably won't be in the ballroom for the Braxton Berry.

[Ria]

That man hasn't been to one. And people are like, oh, he's busy. You know, you can't leave NFL. A lot of teams are off on Tuesdays.

[Francesca]

Are they, though? I feel like.

[Noah]

And also, like, what a team.

[Ria]

Be okay.

[Noah]

To go, like, watch your girlfriend.

[Ria]

Like, apparently, if you look it up, the NFL, most teams are off on Tuesdays. They have a big meeting on Monday, and then on Tuesdays is the day off. That. I don't know. Listen, I do. I work in the NFL. No. So I don't know. But this is like what some people that work in the NFL were saying. So they were like, can't he just, like, even on his bye week when he had the full week off.

[Francesca]

Right. I mean, he did not go.

[Ria]

He.

[Francesca]

But he went to la.

[Ria]

But he went to LA now. But here's the thing.

[Francesca]

Maybe Alex doesn't want him.

[Ria]

Maybe Alex is like, I don't want you there. I'll be too nervous. Maybe it'll be too much of a distraction. I don't know. I mean, listen, that doesn't make sense to me, but it could be.

[Francesca]

Google Overview does say the Houston Texans practice schedule during the regular season generally follows a Wednesday to Friday pattern. Yeah, but you know, Tuesdays, you know, you never know.

[Ria]

But I. It could be a weird thing where she doesn't want him there. I don't know.

[Francesca]

But yeah, I mean, I, I certainly haven't been having a freak out about it as much as, like, I see so many tiktoks of people commenting on it and whatnot. But it is like, not one. But at the same time, I don't know he's in season. It's kind of impossible.

[Ria]

Right.

[Francesca]

And. And you're really supposed to be there. And I don't know, is there somewhere.

[Ria]

In between Whitney's husband and Braxton Barrios of supportive level?

[Francesca]

Right, right, right, right, right, right, right. Yeah, I'm sure.

[Ria]

You got Connor, who's dressing up like the theme every single week, front row, to be honest. And then you have Braxton Barrios, who won't even post the. The tactics, the text to vote on his story.

[Francesca]

Yeah, right.

[Ria]

I mean, I don't know if he doesn't. I think sometimes he posts. Who knows? Yeah. I think people are looking into it a lot. And I'm sure, like, maybe she just wants to put her full focus in Dancing with the Stars. And she's like, yeah, we're still together, but I'm focusing on this and he'll be distracted.

[Francesca]

And it's also like. I'm sure he is. Absent is the wrong word. But I'm sure he is also very busy. That, like she. And there. And she's like, oh, here's a little taste of the football. Well, dating someone that's a football player. Now I'm really busy.

[Ria]

He's hurt.

[Francesca]

Yeah. That's what I'm saying.

[Ria]

But like, we don't know how supportive he is behind the scenes. Maybe he's.

[Francesca]

But he, you know, maybe he's the most supportive behind scenes. You still have to be at everything.

[Ria]

Yeah, that. No, for sure. For sure. Like being hurt. You have to still go, yeah, but maybe there's stuff we don't see behind the scenes. Maybe he's super supportive behind the scenes. We don't know that. Maybe they don't post everything.

[Francesca]

Yeah.

[Ria]

So I don't know. I'm trying to find like a. I know, I know. I'm trying to get. Because I feel like people are just like, odd.

[Francesca]

I know.

[Ria]

Ragging on them and it's like, well, maybe.

[Francesca]

Which is what I did just kind of do.

[Ria]

No, but that's. It's open to discussion because I lean both ways on it. Yeah. On one hand I'm like, where the are you, bro? And on the other hand, I'm like.

[Francesca]

I feel like the time must be pretty difficult too, because it's like five o', clock, you know, it's not like it's on at 8pm LA time and you can fly and make it to LA at 8 for 8pm It's 5 o'. Clock. So it's. If you're.

[Noah]

If you're.

[Ria]

He can't take a 6am flight if you're at the other.

[Francesca]

I'm saying if he has to like I don't know what there's, I don't know what the Texans day today is. If they, if he has to be at the facility for something on Tuesday, maybe it could be an impossible turnaround.

[Ria]

Who knows, Maybe he'll be at the finale. Maybe.

[Francesca]

Maybe. But maybe not.

[Ria]

But, but also maybe not.

[Noah]

I don't know.

[Ria]

We'll see in the upcoming weeks when, when the season ends.

[Francesca]

I will say it's got to be so tough though because it's, it's. They just stress on the relationship but it's also so much outside noise which we are contributing to right now.

[Ria]

And for sure.

[Francesca]

And like last season he was playing in Miami and that was I'm sure 10 times more manageable when he's in Miami and they're in their home and they're in the city that she lives in and now they're doing this whole Houston thing.

[Ria]

Houston. La.

[Francesca]

Yeah. And he. She's in la. Houston. My, you know, his home is also in Miami too.

[Ria]

It's just. It's a lot.

[Francesca]

It's a lot.

[Noah]

So.

[Ria]

It is. It is for sure. But I'm coming to an end.

[Francesca]

So maybe they'll spend Thanksgiving together.

[Shawn Johnson East]

Yeah.

[Francesca]

You know, who knows?

[Ria]

Who knows? Yeah. But I don't think people should jump to conclusions just yet because it seems like they're still together. I mean he posted the dog on, you know, the cleats recently, so. But it's time to move on. No topics Today we're gonna do weekly watch report and we have a great interview with Shawn Johnson east and Andrew East. Great interview. Talking about special forces. They crushed it. So we'll get into that. But first we're gonna get into the weekly watch report. It's beginning to look a lot like holidays on the house at DraftKings Casino. Celebrate the season with bright lights and big win wins on all of your favorite casino games. Spin more than 1000 slots to exclusives to new releases. New players get 500 spins over 10 days on your choice of cash. Cash Eruption slots. I love the DraftKings casino at our apartment in Jersey. Pull up the DraftKings app. Go on the casino on my phone sometimes I airplay it onto the screen. So much fun to play. So download the app and sign up with Code Chicks. Then choose from 10 different cash eruption slots and let it spin in partnership with DraftKings Casino. The crown is yours.

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[Ria]

Weekly watch report on Monday. Weekly watch report on Monday. Weekly watch report on Monday. Weekly watch report on Monday. All right, let's get into the weekly watch report where we talk about the things we watch this week. So where do I want to begin? Squid game. I'll get that out of the way. Finished it. I'll give it.

[Francesca]

Don't tell me who won.

[Ria]

I won't.

[Francesca]

I'm still watching. I'm on episode five.

[Ria]

I'll give it a B minus. I very much.

[Francesca]

How many episodes is it?

[Ria]

10.

[Francesca]

9.

[Ria]

10. 9 or 10.

[Francesca]

Somewhere around there.

[Ria]

Yeah, somewhere around there. It was just press and play and let it all go.

[Noah]

For sure.

[Ria]

I'll give it a B minus. I thought the beginning was a lot more captivating. I was way more into it, but still, you got to finish it out. And I still think it's a great show. Like, I'm hoping that they make more seasons. Yeah. Eddie Murphy documentary. Loved it.

[Francesca]

I gotta watch it.

[Ria]

Love learning about early days of Eddie Murphy. I love seeing everybody talk about him, their own stories. So much fun. I will give that an A. I just. I love documentaries like that. Anything about entertainers, comedians, actors. Like, I just. I love it. The Jonas Brothers Christmas movie.

[Francesca]

You didn't like it?

[Ria]

I. I did not love it.

[Francesca]

You didn't like it?

[Ria]

I did not love it.

[Francesca]

Really? You didn't think it was funny?

[Ria]

No, it was. It was cute and it was funny. I think I. Why did I have higher expectations for just a fun, just movie?

[Francesca]

Yeah, maybe I hyped it up, too.

[Noah]

I think Fran was definitely hyping it up.

[Ria]

I think that you hyped it up.

[Francesca]

I think I was hyping it up because my expectations were so low that it exceeded my expectations.

[Ria]

Okay, so I had the opposite where, like, I was like, this is going to be the best movie of the year. Yeah. No, it was cute and funny and I just like seeing the brothers together. Like, their rapport is funny to me. There were times where I did catch myself, like, cackling at a Joke. Being like, this is so them, you know? And you're like, okay, ground yourself for a minute. You don't know him that well. Relax. You have to find those moments.

[Francesca]

Yes.

[Ria]

But I could have done without it being a musical. If I'm being completely honest. I actually enjoyed the parts where they were not singing a lot more like the actual, like, movie part of it, where when they. When they first broke. When they broke out.

[Francesca]

You want the brothers not to sing.

[Ria]

I love the brothers singing, but maybe if they ended the movie with one big jam sesh. I don't know. The first time they broke out into song, I started hysterical laughing.

[Francesca]

Like, yeah, there it was.

[Ria]

Oh, here we go.

[Noah]

Turn it on. Because I wanted to, like, be able to talk about it. And that's when I turned it off. I just. The musical thing lost me. But I did. I will say it's a musical. The first part of it, though, like, I was like, no wonder why, Fran, like, if you're a Jonas Brothers fan, like, this has to be the greatest thing ever.

[Ria]

It was enjoyable to see the brothers in this environment, just, like, having fun.

[Francesca]

And like I said, Christmas movies. Christmas, no, nothing. Not like a serious plot.

[Ria]

No. It's not high stakes, not mistakes. And there's something so fun watching them make self aware jokes. Yeah. Yeah. That I really enjoy.

[Francesca]

Yep.

[Ria]

But then Matt and I are just, like, debating things about the Jonas Brothers the entire movie. Like, who's the better singer? Who's the best looking? Like, I'm like, we're, you know, he. He had a lot to say about Joe's chest tattoo. And I was like, you don't listen. You just don't get it. Yeah. I was like, his chest tattoo looks really good. Yeah. In certain, I think, settings. That towel on stage, he was like, but right there, his chest tattooed. I'm like, listen, you're nitpicking Joe Jonas right now.

[Francesca]

Yeah. That's.

[Ria]

You're being nitpicky. Yeah. About Joe's chest tattoo. All right, buddy.

[Francesca]

And you're just looking for that one thing that you're here complaining about.

[Ria]

One thing about. And.

[Francesca]

Oh, of course he's funny, he's charming, he's hot. You're trying to pick one thing that he loves.

[Ria]

He said this. He goes, I love that they're short. Yeah, yeah, of course you do. Yeah.

[Noah]

Joe's not that short.

[Ria]

No, they're nobody. They're short. They're like five, six.

[Noah]

No way.

[Ria]

Yes. Joe Jones.

[Noah]

I've been around them.

[Francesca]

I look Joe Jonas, like, straight in the.

[Ria]

No, Joe Jonas is like five six.

[Noah]

Damn.

[Ria]

Maybe five, seven. And Nick is definitely.

[Noah]

I know. I knew Nick was, like, the shorter.

[Ria]

One, but Joe Jonas.

[Francesca]

It says Joe.

[Ria]

Are both pretty. It says Joe's five seven online.

[Francesca]

Yeah. Which is.

[Noah]

Yeah, wow.

[Francesca]

Joe's probably is five seven, but I'm. That's.

[Ria]

And then it also says. It says Nick is five six.

[Francesca]

Yeah.

[Ria]

Kevin's the tallest.

[Francesca]

Kevin is the tall.

[Ria]

At a strong five eight.

[Francesca]

Yeah.

[Ria]

Wow.

[Francesca]

Yeah.

[Ria]

Or five nine. It says Kevin is They.

[Francesca]

They.

[Ria]

Yeah, Kevin. Kevin took all the height. He popped out first and he took all the height.

[Francesca]

Franklin's taller than. Yeah, Than Kevin.

[Ria]

But they don't need the height. Doesn't matter. They have everything else, so it's fine. But we were talking about.

[Francesca]

Doesn't stop Joe from dating this supermodel that he's dating right now.

[Ria]

No.

[Francesca]

Looking up at her.

[Ria]

We were talking about he. I mean, he looked up at Sophie Turner, too. Yeah, we talked about who. Who he thinks about her singer. Between Joe and Nick now Kevin, you know, he's throwing his hat.

[Francesca]

Kevin's in the mix.

[Ria]

He's in the mix. But I go back and forth between Joe and Nick. It depends on.

[Francesca]

Yeah, it depends on the song for sure. But I both have a very distinct sound as a whole.

[Ria]

I'll give this movie. I don't want them.

[Francesca]

You can be honest.

[Ria]

I'll give it a C plus.

[Francesca]

Yeah.

[Noah]

The Will Ferrell stuff was funny.

[Ria]

Oh, strong start.

[Francesca]

Strong start.

[Ria]

Strong start.

[Francesca]

I thought that was there again.

[Ria]

I thought that was hilarious. That was a great beginning. That was so perfect. I loved that. It was cute, though.

[Francesca]

Yeah.

[Ria]

I enjoyed my time watching it.

[Noah]

That song, by the way, is insanely catchy. I will say their Christmas song, not the new one. The. You make every day feel like it's like.

[Ria]

Oh, that's an old.

[Noah]

That's an older one. If I hear that, though, like the whole day, it's just.

[Francesca]

Yeah, yeah. It is very catchy.

[Ria]

No, it's so catchy.

[Francesca]

I do like the new one, too, that they do with the big. The big dance number. Yes. In the train station.

[Ria]

Me too. I love that one, too.

[Francesca]

Coming Home this Christmas.

[Ria]

They're all very catchy. Yeah.

[Francesca]

So the one time that I did laugh about the breaking out in song was Joe's song with Chloe Bennett when they were, like, walking and then they both started singing. I was like, okay, this is like trying to be Gotta Go my own way. But it's not. But it's not right now.

[Ria]

You know, we don't need this right now.

[Francesca]

Yeah, but Granted, that's a musical. And when they break out in song in a musical, it's like, damn, they're really breaking out in song.

[Ria]

Right. But I don't want the brothers to think that I didn't like it. Cause I did. Yeah. It just, I wasn't, you know, it was cute. Sebastian Maniscalco's new special. I love Sebastian's older specials. This one was fine. It was some funny parts. Not my favorite, but still funny. Still enjoyed my time. Why not? I'll give this. Also a C plus. Was it my favorite of his specials. But still enjoyed my time.

[Francesca]

I don't think I've ever watched one full.

[Ria]

Really?

[Francesca]

Specials. I'm not like that much of a stand up com. Like, you know, I don't watch that much of it really.

[Ria]

Yeah, we were just reminiscing on a lot of stand up this past week. I think the Eddie Murphy doc.

[Francesca]

Yeah, right.

[Ria]

Inspired me of that.

[Francesca]

But I like really talked about. I'd be like, oh, we should have really.

[Ria]

I. I would go through like deep phases of. Even like before I started working here. Just like when I was younger. Yeah. Where I loved stand up comedy. And do you remember the phase where like Kevin Hart was like the funniest person alive?

[Francesca]

Yes.

[Ria]

Like when Kevin Hart really is his stand up in like 2016.

[Francesca]

Yeah.

[Ria]

It was like he was the funniest person alive. And we went back and watched that this past week and we were like this. I mean, it's still fucking funny. It still hits. But there are a couple of standup specials that stick in my mind. One of them being Sebastian's. That from years ago. That just reminds me so much of my family that it's. It's one of those, you know, when you can really like.

[Francesca]

Yeah.

[Ria]

So typical to be like, oh, I relate. But like, you know, when you can just. You just start envisioning your life with it and you just start cracking up.

[Noah]

Yeah.

[Ria]

That's my. That's my favorite kind of stand up.

[Francesca]

The John Mulaney post rehab one is always the. Probably by far.

[Noah]

That's what we watched.

[Ria]

One of the funniest ones we watched that Saturday night.

[Francesca]

It's. It is so funny.

[Ria]

So funny. The way that I was laughing on the couch Saturday night and like nobody else was laughing that hard. Actually me and Kelly were like, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Francesca]

Really loves him too.

[Noah]

I'm also just not like, you're not like audible laugh. Like I'm like, like chuckle to myself or like I'm just smiling but I'm not like, ha.

[Shawn Johnson East]

Ha.

[Ria]

I was hitting, like the. You know, when I get those laughs, like I was hitting those hard and I can't help myself. That Baby J special is fucking hilarious. So we watched that as well. But that's a rewatch for me, so. I mean, that's an A, but it's a rewatch. I watched the Beast in me same, but not all. They're Danes. I watched with Claire Danes. And Brittany Snow's in this too, which took me by surprise.

[Noah]

She's done a lot.

[Francesca]

She has, she has. She's been really good.

[Ria]

She's making quite her rounds. The Beast in me, I only watched four episodes. I will give this a B. I like it coming off of all her fault, though.

[Francesca]

Yeah.

[Ria]

I thought all her fault was so good that going to this right after it just.

[Francesca]

Right, right, right.

[Ria]

I've seen similar psychological thriller type situation where going right after. After it. It's good.

[Francesca]

Yeah.

[Noah]

But dying it is creepy.

[Ria]

Oh, my God. He's. He's a phenomenal actor. He is creepy and so enjoying that right now. Gotta finish that. Did four episodes. Kardashians caught up. Courtney's got some problems.

[Francesca]

She's got some attitude problems.

[Ria]

Kim is sitting there telling her that she had a hit out on her and, like, all these things that are happening this week to her. And Kourtney just hits her with a. Have you tried a date with butter and salt? And Kim's like, thank you for this deep conversation where I told you I have a hit out on my life. And then it cuts to Courtney in the confessional and she was like, I mean, I just get bored. And like, I just, you know, to me, like, I don't relate to this. Like, I'm breastfeeding. So to me, like, a butter a date is interesting. It's like your sister just told you that somebody put a hit out on her life.

[Francesca]

Yeah.

[Ria]

Yeah. And you're like, hey, what? How about this snack?

[Francesca]

Yeah.

[Ria]

It's like, I get what she's trying to do and what she means when she wants to, like, be positive and separate herself. I'm like, that's all fine and dandy, but when you're just, like, genuinely being rude to people, that. That's not cool.

[Francesca]

I did see I'm behind on a bunch of episodes, but I did see the clip of her. Like, they're just, you know, Kim's talking about the lawyer stuff and she was like, Courtney was saying to her, don't you feel like maybe you could put this on pause now to be like, more present for your kids? And it was just such like a. And they're sisters, so I guess it's, you know, doesn't come across as shamey. As if, like, a friend said it to you probably, but just like a little mom, a classic mom. Shamy. I feel like Courtney loves. Loves a mom doing that.

[Ria]

And.

[Francesca]

And, you know, at the same time, I'm just like, you know what I'm really intrigued by? And I don't know what the details are, but it's like, her older kids. Where are they? I don't know, you know, because Scott teasing about. Stop talking at the beginning of the season about potentially moving to New York and obvious, like, whatever, that didn't happen. But when Chloe was like. And what, like, he was like, well, you know, Mason, come. Come with me. It's like, so if you were to move, Mason would go live with you in New York.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Francesca]

Like, it's just an. It's just interesting of where that all stands because it does feel like Courtney. So mom, mom, mom, mom, mom. But it's like mom mode with just the new. Like, the new baby. Like, it's just like, a lot of Rocky stuff.

[Ria]

I agree.

[Francesca]

And I feel like we don't get.

[Ria]

A very information on that. Yeah.

[Francesca]

And maybe now she's just be like, she just doesn't want the kids on the show as much, which is also very possible because she doesn't show Rocky's face on the show or anything like that. So that could be a big part of it as well. But yeah, the lit, like, that comment to Kim was like. And Kim's like, no, I like that my kids, like, see that I'm working hard and. And want, like, put my mind to something. Put my mind to something and, like, want to accomplish it. And she was like, you could. Don't think you could be, like, home more.

[Ria]

Yeah. Kim was like, I like learning new things, which I think is great, because especially, like, in what she does for a living. I could imagine the yearning for wanting to learn new things. Yeah. So that was interesting. I'll give that a C. Plus, it's like the Kardashians, you know, classic. You chuckle a little bit. Kris Jenner, Khloe. Very funny together and entertaining enough.

[Francesca]

Yep.

[Ria]

And then the last thing was all her fault, which was really good.

[Francesca]

So good. I watched it this weekend.

[Ria]

I'll give all her fault a solid A. That is. I love a show that can just rope you in like that and makes you want to not go to sleep. You want to watch all the episodes. You stay up late watching. It. I want one that'll keep me up till 2am watching it. And this. And this is that kind of a. This is that kind of show. Great acting by all of them. Incredible twist. I mean, it's just one of those that you can't predict. Like, at the beginning, you're predicting a lot of different things to happen. And I don't want to spoil it because. Right.

[Francesca]

Well, maybe we just say spoil, like, because we can talk about it.

[Ria]

Okay. Spoiler.

[Francesca]

So did you watch it, Noah?

[Noah]

Yeah, I watched it.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Francesca]

Okay. So big spoiler alert. Big fat spoiler for all her faults. Big fat spoiler for all her faults. I think as much as. Pause.

[Ria]

Mm.

[Francesca]

I think as much as you could anticipate something was happening with the husband because, you know, he's lying about a lot. He realized he lies about the accident. And it's like, you still don't think it's that?

[Ria]

Yes.

[Francesca]

You know, like, I still didn't think it was that. I still don't think he did that. Well, I. We also don't know a lot, which is good. Like, the way it's formatted is like, they. They keep a lot of that stuff hidden throughout the story so that they tell this different story. And you come up with a whole idea. Like, I was texting one of my friends while I was watching, because we had just. We were at dinner the other night, like, talking about it. I said, oh, I'm only at episode four. She was like, oh, my God. You could tell me when you're. When you get through it.

[Noah]

And.

[Francesca]

And in my mind, I was like, ah. I texted her, like, ah, classic, classic storyline of, like, Nanny Carey style of, you know, a woman who goes through some sort of terrible childbearing story or pregnancy or something, where she then kidnaps a kid and is like, I'm gonna be your mom now. Like, it's. You know, we've seen that before as well. I'm texting her, like, oh, so classic Jose. Whatever. Like, classic this. And I. And it was funny because I was laughing that her fake name was Carrie. And then I was like, so Nanny Carrie? Like, the whole thing. And then. And then you have to watch all the way to the end for it to be like, no, you're missing a whole chunk of that story. And that was the accident, which obviously they didn't tell you about till the last episode of, like, no, there was an accident for sure.

[Ria]

And watching the show, I was like, what is the deal with the siblings? Who gives a shit? Like, I. I.

[Francesca]

Right, right, right.

[Ria]

Throughout the show, I'm like, I mean, what do they have to do with this story?

[Francesca]

I. I felt that a little bit with Dakota Fanning storyline. I was like, and how is Jenny not involved really at all? Like, I understand her marriage is not great and her, like, husband's, like, lying to her and drinking, so. But I think it was all just tied to the whole theme of just, like, deceit.

[Ria]

Deceit. And also, like, the. The title's all her fault, when really it's all his fault. Because it's always. It falls on the exact.

[Francesca]

They're all like, dude, Jenny's getting blamed for everything.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Francesca]

She's too busy at work and blah, blah. Meanwhile, his ass is in a parking lot watching Tick Tocks.

[Ria]

Yeah. Like, gross.

[Francesca]

Yeah.

[Ria]

But I had the same feeling about that. I was like, who gives a. About this deadbeat husband? Like, for sure.

[Noah]

What.

[Ria]

But I think it was. It's to, like, throw you off the scent of, like, could it be any one of these characters?

[Francesca]

Yeah.

[Ria]

Because you're like, what is the point of them on the show? They had to have been involved. At one point, I was putting it on Michael Pena. I said this Detectives up to something. He's saying a lot of. I was like, he's saying a lot of cliches.

[Francesca]

Yeah.

[Ria]

You know, good people could do bad things. Yeah. And I'm like, is it him? What. What's this narrative going on? I was like, why are they making him seem sketchy? But he. He was fine.

[Francesca]

I was starting to lean. He was also fantastic, by the way. He was so good. But I. I was towards, like, episode six, seven. I was leaning to not. Not the six, seven.

[Ria]

I didn't even pick up on it.

[Francesca]

You know, but it came out of my mouth and I heard it and I said, oh, no. Well, around that time. Around that time.

[Ria]

Am I supposed to do that?

[Noah]

Yeah.

[Francesca]

I don't know. I don't know.

[Ria]

Is it over?

[Francesca]

I don't know.

[Ria]

Sorry.

[Francesca]

It's at. I was like, well, clearly Colin is in some money problems.

[Ria]

He's moving.

[Francesca]

He's moving money around to try and save the business. Like, how desperate did he get? Like, is he involved in this? Yeah, you really could do anything. Like, the siblings.

[Ria]

I was like, okay, what? But then when it was revealed, okay, first of all, not only did he trip his brother and lie about it for his entire life, you know, paralyzed. His brother lied about it his entire life. Life. He lied about him being able to get spine surgery.

[Francesca]

Yeah.

[Ria]

I'm like, did we have to make him so, like, because now he's a big fat liar and he's evil.

[Francesca]

Right.

[Ria]

And she's still not leaving him. You know what I mean? Like, I'm like, I. You know the ending.

[Francesca]

Yeah.

[Ria]

She ends up. Yeah. Killing him with the allergy.

[Francesca]

Which I texted my friend, I said, I hope he eats a massive soybean.

[Ria]

Right. And there you go. But part of me was wishing in that moment when she found all that out that she was gonna just tell the cops and he would get got right there. Tell them. Tell them. And you're, you know, you're rooting for that. But then that would definitely. But that would just be the end of the show, and there would be no way to end it. Yeah. Like, all right, now he's the bad guy and that's it. Yeah. Which I still would have thought was good.

[Francesca]

But she. She wasn't wrong in the fact that, like, if that were the case, it could have opened up a whole nother legal battle where she is not this kid's biological mom.

[Ria]

Right.

[Francesca]

So it's like, if this were to go to court or if Josie's deadbeat mom found out that the kid was alive, like, she could try and file to, like, take custody of this kid because it's technically her blood relative.

[Ria]

Well, then it opened up the question where I was like.

[Francesca]

Do you keep the kid? Like, oh. I mean, one. Yeah. So that's why they were like, this is your. That's, you know, like, because that's your child.

[Ria]

Because at this point. Because at this point, that's her kid. She's become so attached.

[Francesca]

Yeah.

[Ria]

To Milo.

[Noah]

And that kid would be like, imagine. Be like, never mind.

[Ria]

Never mind. I'm not your mom.

[Francesca]

I had in my mind, though, that I was like. And this is so, like, take yourself out of the. Take yourself out of a show that's obviously fictional. And like, Like, I was like, damn, what happens if as. And I thought this. As they were laying in bed, the parent, they were both laying in bed with Milo looking at each other, and he was like, they ruled it an act. Like, they ruled self defense. Like, it's over and they're looking at Milo. And I'm like, what happens when this. It was like, what happens if he turns 25 and wants to do a 23andMe?

[Ria]

I mean, he'll find out. I mean, a lot of people in real life. Yeah, a lot of people find out.

[Francesca]

Like, then you. Then. How do you explain this one?

[Ria]

Right. Yeah, that's. That's going to be a long story.

[Francesca]

It was really. That Was crazy. I mean, that was a classic. He had so many issues, Peter. And obviously he had one of those crazy, like, caregiver complexes of, like, I need to take care of people to, like, make myself feel. It's the only thing that makes myself feel good.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Francesca]

And you saw that the whole way of obviously lying. And even when it was like, what's your favorite thing about Milo? And he was like, when he comes in, when he has a nightmare and I can comfort him, it's like he.

[Ria]

Said that I was, like, clearly was.

[Francesca]

Very sick in the head.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Francesca]

And all that stuff that happened their childhood and all the lying, like, really went to him. But, yeah, also, like, the theme of how far will you go to take care of your kid? You see Michael Pena with his adorable son and, you know, lying to. Tampering with evidence to get his kid into that school. Which is why I felt like the end was really made so much sense to me, because it wasn't like a detective coming in me like, well, here's what's right, and this is what we should do. He's like, well, knowing what I just did. Yeah, I kind of understand. And this may not be the justice that I've been taught, but it feels like.

[Ria]

Right.

[Francesca]

It's the ending that. That feels appropriate. I also thought it was very interesting that the boyfriend, Josie's boyfriend, went to jail for years for the. For selling oxygen. And then it was like, the same charge for the kid that he was like, get this rich kid off of this charge. And how easy it was for that to just disappear because he had money.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Francesca]

And this poor guy who's struggling because now his young girlfriend's pregnant, and he's like, resorts to selling drugs and he's in jail for years.

[Ria]

Yeah. It's insane. Years.

[Francesca]

So it was. It was very well done. I thought it was a really good show.

[Ria]

Really, really good. I. We just need more shows like that that just hook it in.

[Francesca]

Yeah.

[Ria]

Make you not want to stop watching for all eight episodes.

[Francesca]

I know.

[Ria]

Or whatever it is.

[Francesca]

He plays a. He. He's a good actor, that guy. He's Peter.

[Ria]

Oh, my God. I mean, he. I. He's one of those guys that you're just like, he's so good.

[Francesca]

Jake Lacey. He's really good.

[Ria]

He just plays that character so well.

[Francesca]

They were all so good. Sarah Snook was so good. I love seeing Dakota Fanning in something like this. I thought she was so good.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Francesca]

You know, Abby Elliott, who was on snl, play the sister. She's. She's really cornered the. Yeah. Really cornered the. Dysfunctional family television show because she's also. Yes.

[Ria]

On the.

[Francesca]

She's also the sister on the bear.

[Ria]

She.

[Noah]

See, her character seemed very similar to.

[Ria]

That's why when she popped in, I was like, why is this familiar?

[Francesca]

Yeah, Right. Yes. But she. They were all. They were all really, really good. Just fantastic. Just fantastic acting all around. The girl that played Josie Carey, whatever you want to call her, was also. So.

[Ria]

Yeah, they were all really good. That's a. That's a solid A show.

[Francesca]

And last thought on that, Milo. Cutest kid I've ever seen in my life.

[Ria]

Oh, my God. Have you seen his interviews?

[Francesca]

No.

[Ria]

Carpet.

[Francesca]

Oh, my God. Oh, my God. No. I gotta look them up.

[Ria]

Stop. No, friend, you'll die.

[Francesca]

I literally was like, give this. Get an Oscar. He's a fantastic actor.

[Ria]

You will be dead. Interviews on the carpet. When they're asking him questions and he's fully answering. Like, he's saying he was more excited for this premiere than the last premiere he did.

[Francesca]

Oh, my God, he's a star.

[Ria]

They were asking, like, who would you trust with a secret? And he says, sarah. Like, it is so freaking cute. You have to watch it after this. So cute.

[Francesca]

I. I mean, he really was, like, the cutest guy I've ever seen. I was like, this kid is adorable.

[Ria]

So cute.

[Francesca]

What? What a name. Duke McLeod.

[Ria]

Amazing.

[Francesca]

That's. That's a name right there. That's his real name. Classic Duke McLeod. Is that he has a little Instagram.

[Ria]

He's so cute.

[Noah]

I was assuming that wasn't his.

[Francesca]

Well, it could be. Maybe it's run by his mom, parents, or perhaps a fan account.

[Noah]

Maybe when he daredevil Duke. Is that what you're looking at?

[Ria]

Yeah. So cute.

[Francesca]

Oh, my God, he's so cut. I can't take it.

[Ria]

I hope he grows up to be a star.

[Francesca]

Seriously, because he was.

[Ria]

I mean, he's 6 years old and he's so good. Oh, my God.

[Francesca]

Like, literally, he's the cutest kid.

[Ria]

You have to watch his interviews after. They're so cute.

[Francesca]

Oh, okay. I got to look that up on TikTok.

[Ria]

Yeah. That is everything I watched.

[Francesca]

I will also give all her faults an A. Really, really good. I love being roped into a show like that, like you said. So definitely an A for me as well. I just cracked open a Truly from the Truly Celebration Pack. And tis the season, guys, we are here. It is time to turn things up. Says A. Right here on the can. Every party needs a spark, and I know that we're headed in to that time where there's lots of family gatherings, holiday parties. Well, if you want to be the hero, you're showing up with the Truly Celebration pack. Your new holiday hero is here with with four limited edition flavors. Me for throwing the rules out the window and turning up the holiday season. They got these flavors. I have the citrus spark in my hand right now. Delicious, refreshing. They also have peach parade, trisecco style and style. It's perfect for any friendsgiving Thanksgiving eve, cozy holiday hangs and everything in between. Especially if the thing in between is another night with your favorite people. So if you're hosting your friendsgiving this week leading up, or maybe you're just showing up to family Thanksgiving and you are bringing the party, you're taking that Truly celebration pack and showing up and celebrating with everybody. So it's time to celebrate with Truly Heart Seltzer Celebration Pack. Find it at a store near you or Visit truly heart seltzer.com I watched, I finished selling Sunset. Wow. Which I forgot about for a while. Yeah. And may it, you know, watched it, did the whole reunion, everything. I'm not surprised Chrishell's leaving this show at this point. I don't really know what the show is going to be without Chrishell. She really is a centerpiece of this show and it's really tough. That was the only real element of the show to me was seeing during the reunion of Chrishell and Emma's friendship kind of falling apart because of her boyfriend on and off boyfriend, which you really don't even see that much on the show because half the time I feel like these show like the drama in the show, these shows are so fake. But hearing them talk about it in real life and all that went down, might first thought was like, yeah, kind of crazy that Chrishell and Emma were having issues over all this and Chrishell like publicly commented shitting on this guy and it must have just gotten to that point. And I think every, I think a lot of girls know that feeling of when your friend starts to date somebody that is just fundamentally not a good person and you know it, but they don't know it or they know it and they don't care. And you are just fighting, trying to support her and you're like, this is, this is not going well. And it seemed like she just got to a point where it was like, I, I'm, I'm at my, I'm at my wits end. I'm fed up about this. Because even Chelsea, when it's like she's Trying to come and help mediate was like, I won't. She's like, you're not gonna get me to say one nice word about this guy. Like, I don't care what story she. He's telling. And Emma. Emma seems great, but it's like you got the blind over your face, like you're hearing some of these stories. And she's like, well, that's not, like, really how it went. And he said this and that. I'm like, no, no, no. I don't really think there's any defending any part of this story. The guy sounds like a douchebag. So that's really. That. That was kind of crazy, and it sucks that it's all kind of ended that I don't know where they are as a relationship. I know. I saw Mary do an interview recently that was like, oh, they're not together currently. Like, if you're lying to your friend, you're like, oh, I'm going to visit my family. And then you're popping up on Instagram in the Bahamas with your boyfriend that everybody hates. That's probably gonna ruffle some feathers. And, yeah, I mean, it's a C minus. It's like, it took me this long to finish it. Yeah, it's one of those shows that I still continue to watch, but, you know, wasn't exactly. Didn't exactly have me roped in what it did get me to do, though, and. Which was a. I guess, good on them. They played the whole Selling OC Selling the OC Trailer during the reunion, which I was like, damn, that looks good. Because they brought in some new agents and some new drama. So I started watching Sell the O.C. like, the first three episodes. That's also a. I'll give that a C. I kind of enjoy it sometimes more. Freaking Luke from Summerhouse just popped into the. The trailer on a date with one of the agents, and I was like, what the. What the hell is this?

[Ria]

Guess he's not dating Tisha anymore.

[Francesca]

I haven't. No, I haven't gotten to. To that point yet of the show. But that's another one where it's like that guy Tyler who was married to Britney Snow.

[Shawn Johnson East]

Really?

[Francesca]

Some. Some interesting. I'd. I would just love to know the real story, because everything I feel like I watch on that show, I'm like, this is all fake. This is all like. I want the real. Give me the real drama of how this all went down. Because they're back filming the show. All the agents of the O group are like, we haven't seen Tyler or spoken to him in 18 months. 18 months. The only reason you're talking to him now is because the cameras are back up and you're filming. So it's like, that's the reality of it. It's like, oh, we think Tyler's changed a lot and he seems to be getting better. And, like, we're all going to talk to him is like. Like, no, you don't actually think that you all have to film with him because he's still on. He's still technically on the show or decided to come back to the show. So Alex hall is the only Alex standing. All the other Alexes are gone. They brought in a bunch of new agents as well. This episode of Salt Lake City, fantastic. Once again, I really want to know. I really want to know what happened on that airplane. But Mary's church, I'm doing instruction on it. Mary's church was completed, so they filmed an episode of the service of them back in the church and her speaking. And she directed a lot of comments at the. At the women that were. At the women that were there. So I'll give it a. I think I had high expectations, though, because Andy was like, it's such a great episode. I mean, it was a good episode, but I wasn't, like, blown away. Give it a B plus. It's a good episode. I do. I mean, Salt Lake City's been fantastic.

[Ria]

I have to set myself a reminder to watch this damn show.

[Francesca]

You really just.

[Ria]

I. My plan was this weekend to watch Salt Lake City, and it completely escaped me. Yeah, I'm setting myself an alarm.

[Francesca]

Yeah, you should.

[Ria]

You should, because I'm watching that tonight.

[Francesca]

Right? Open up that peacock app, girl. Fred, get watch.

[Ria]

No, I'm not kidding. I'm literally setting myself get.

[Francesca]

Watching the. And this is the week to do it. I'll grade the rest of Special Forces because we do have Sean and Andrew on, and I watched all the way to the. To the finale, and we talk a lot about the finale with them. So I'll save, you know, my thoughts for. For there. But it was a good, really great season. I'll give it a B. I thought that it was a great cast, and I was just so hyped that it was Sean and Gia that finished the whole thing. Like, I just think that's so amazing and such an accomplishment. And I said it to Sean, too, but, like, the two smallest girls to tough this out. It's like the women, so cool women were. You know, they showed that they're just so Mentally tough.

[Ria]

They are.

[Francesca]

Because when some of this come push comes to shove, these guys crumble at the. At the mental aspect of the game. The physical aspect, sure, they're okay. But the mental aspect, like women, we.

[Ria]

Got that mental tough.

[Francesca]

Yeah. And I just thought that that was great. So I watched that. I caught up on. Caught up on Grey's Anatomy, you know. You know me, I'm like, I'm still locked in. And this was before the little fall break we got here. So of course there was a cliffhanger once again. So I don't really care. I don't think anybody even cares if I spoil Grey's Anatomy. But if you do, don't listen to this one sentence I'm about to say right now. But if they. If they do anything to Joe, I will be furious. It's. Don't. There's some characters that I'm like.

[Ria]

If.

[Francesca]

A tragic accident were to happen and Owen's time comes to an end, fine. Oh, and watching Owen's relationships throughout this show has been a disaster. He's freaking divorced again. It's like the guy. I don't know what they. It's always happens with him. But if they may. If something happens. Because they left us on a cliffhanger with Joe's pregnancy and they already did at the beginning. Like, can't Joe and Link just be happy? Link already gotten it. Something already happened to Link to start the season. It's only been six episodes. Seven episodes, however. Six episodes. I'll give it a C. Minus C actually give the. Because before the fall finale, they amp it up. So I'll give this last couple episodes to see. I watched Frankenstein, like I said, the Guillermo del Toro's Frankenstein, which is on Netflix. Talk about a dealer's choice. I opened up Netflix after the Eagles game and I saw the new Minka Kelly romance, Netflix romance called Champagne Problems. And the preview started playing and I was like, damn, is this what I watch? Like, talk. I couldn't gone in two different directions between that and then I. In my mind, I was like, you know, I actually really want to watch Frankenstein because I've just been curious about it, and it was good. I definitely think that when I first saw that trailer, it seemed way more like dark scare, like, just even visually dark scary horror.

[Ria]

Ooh.

[Francesca]

Leave it to Jacob Elardi to make that monster, like, still attractive. Sorry.

[Shawn Johnson East]

He.

[Ria]

Frankenstein's a. Hear me out.

[Francesca]

He is. He actually really is. And I'm sorry, I. He couldn't. They. They tried. They tried their darndest to make him mangled and piece him. Piece together his face. But you can still see that bone structure through that makeup.

[Ria]

You know who's also. Hear me out. And I saw this on TikTok just this past weekend. The Grinch. But like, not. Not Jim Carrey.

[Francesca]

Not Jim Carrey.

[Ria]

The Grinch. Like, the Grinch. Yeah, the Grinch. I feel like we talked about this last year because I'm like, why have I thought about this before? I saw it.

[Francesca]

We all think about it. When Martha. Martha is like, you don't blame her.

[Ria]

That's not the right idea.

[Francesca]

You don't blame her. Everybody loves a funny guy, too. He's a funny guy.

[Ria]

Exactly. Maybe that's what it is. I like his personality. Yeah.

[Francesca]

No, but truly, like, I was, like, looking at this.

[Ria]

The furry might be tingly.

[Francesca]

Yeah. I'm looking at this Jacob Elordi monster, and I'm just like, I don't know. And then it's in two parts, told via Oscar Isaac. Victor Frankenstein's perspective, and then Jacob Elordi's perspective, the monsters, you know, creatures perspective. And it really, you know, really makes me feel something for the monster because he's been created and he can't die, and all he wants to do is die. Have you ever seen the original? Yeah, of course, but it's like, feel bad for him. I know, but I didn't know what direction they were taking this story, you know?

[Ria]

And you know what gets me going? When people are like, the monster isn't called Frankenstein. The doctor.

[Francesca]

Yeah.

[Ria]

The doctor is called Frankenstein.

[Francesca]

Yeah. Well, he's like. It's these Victor Frankenstein.

[Ria]

Right. But like, the monster.

[Francesca]

I know the monster is Frankenstein.

[Ria]

Like, when you're dressing up for Frankenstein as Halloween. For Halloween, you're dressing up as the.

[Francesca]

Monster, which really is inaccurate.

[Ria]

You're not dressing up as Victor Frankenstein. But don't they end up calling the monster Frankenstein?

[Francesca]

I don't know. I.

[Ria]

Sorry. Not to bring up such a deep conversation.

[Francesca]

Yeah. I don't know, because. Let me tell in.

[Ria]

Yeah. They call the monster Frankenstein because it's the last name of the creator.

[Francesca]

Right.

[Ria]

Victor Frankenstein.

[Francesca]

Right, right, right.

[Ria]

And. But, people, it's become a popular misconception through films. The monster in Mary Shelley's novel is never given a name.

[Francesca]

He's never. Yeah, yeah.

[Ria]

But calling the creature Frankenstein is understandable given its relationship as the sun. But.

[Francesca]

Right. Because then even on the end of this movie, they're like, they. They call each other. It's like a father, you know, father.

[Ria]

Son, but then Bride of Frankenstein.

[Francesca]

Yeah. That's where.

[Ria]

Where it's the monster. That's how you know. Then it becomes.

[Francesca]

Yeah.

[Ria]

Synonymous with that. Where you're like, well, yeah, then the monster is Frankenstein.

[Francesca]

I thought Mia Goth was also really good and Oscar Isaac was. Was great in it as well, but it wasn't like. Sorry, just getting into the genealogy of Frank.

[Ria]

There's a Reddit thread that popped up. It was like. Like the monster's name is Frankenstein. There's always that one that needs to be clarify that the monster from the book Frankenstein is not given a proper name. It's like, yeah, there is always that one person that's like, it's not actually Frankenstein. Well, you know what? Shut the up.

[Francesca]

Yeah, he's Frankenstein. Well, in this.

[Ria]

Did you fake laugh at me?

[Francesca]

No, I wasn't. That.

[Ria]

Would that, like, Like, Right. Did you see that?

[Noah]

I. I heard it.

[Ria]

She went like. Okay.

[Francesca]

To be honest, that was a real laugh. But it came out weird. I don't know why it came out weird.

[Ria]

Such a fake. Like, okay.

[Francesca]

I don't know why.

[Ria]

Give me a phony. Don't give me a laugh.

[Francesca]

It wasn't a phony laugh. Yeah, it did sound weird, though.

[Ria]

Don't pity me.

[Francesca]

It sounded weird coming out. I turned my face like this. Maybe that's why it sounded weird coming.

[Ria]

Out of my mouth. Okay. Yeah. You've never pitied me before. Why do that?

[Francesca]

I didn't like. I didn't like the sound of that at all. Really?

[Ria]

You've literally never given me a fake laugh.

[Francesca]

Like, why.

[Ria]

Why start.

[Francesca]

No, I did not like that.

[Ria]

I'm, like, dressed like Frankenstein. Continue dressed like Frankenstein. You're in a striped shirt. I feel like Frankenstein. He wears the stripes.

[Francesca]

She wears stripes.

[Ria]

Doesn't Frankenstein wear the stripes?

[Francesca]

Oh, yeah, yeah.

[Ria]

Striped shirt.

[Francesca]

Yeah. Look, I have Guillermo del Toro's I'm.

[Ria]

Sorry idea of Frankenstein in my mind right now.

[Francesca]

I am talking about old Frankston cartoon Frankenstein.

[Noah]

You ever watch Young Frankenstein the movie?

[Francesca]

No.

[Ria]

Does Frankenstein wear a striped. A black and white striped shirt? Am I making shit up in a.

[Francesca]

Lot of the cartoons? He's in an orange shirt.

[Ria]

What am I thinking of? I'm picturing Frankston.

[Francesca]

You're thinking Beetlejuice.

[Ria]

Yeah. Yep. Obviously, I know what Frankenstein looks like, but I was thinking.

[Francesca]

You're thinking Beetlejuice. Yeah, but, no, I like. It was a. It was a very, you know, very beautifully done movie. It was certainly not, like, as dark as I would think. You know what you're getting into? You know, this guy is taking bodies and putting them together to make a monster, you know, so there is certain, like, bodily things that you're like, like, you know, you're watching him cut feet off of dead bodies and different parts to like put it all together, which can certainly be unpleasant. But all in all, like, that's probably some aspects of gore in it, but it's not, there's no, like, not as much like horror to it. I know it's kind of like horror, sci fi, but I don't find as much horror to this, to this story. I've more in like a sci fi type vibe. But I thought Jacob Elordi was fantastic. And that's, you know, you just think about all the, all that time in the special effects and makeup chair and everything to get that, to get that whole look. But he was good. He had a. I was, I was, I was impressed by him in this, in this role. I'll give it, I'll give it a solid B because it's not like a story that you're unfamiliar with. But I thought all of the acting was fantastic and the pacing of it was really good too because it was still like a two and a half hour long movie. But it had me pretty locked in on my, on my Sunday nights. And I. We already talked about Wicked for good last week, but I, I will give Wicked for Good. A B plus. Loved it. I think there's a lot of discourse online right now around this movie and like, what would have happened if it wasn't put into two parts and would.

[Ria]

Be way too long before.

[Francesca]

Right. Well, but it's like they're like, look, they spent years. Wicked has been on Broadway for years and they've done such a great job with the, with the stage show of keeping it at whatever, two hours and 45 minutes, almost three hours with an intermission and whatever. Movies are always going to expand on a stage performance. There's just so much more that goes into it. But I think because the second act is just. The pacing is just different anyway because the first act is so different and there's more material, I think in the first act that in the second, you know, you're adding the song, adding a couple songs or adding a couple things kind of. It almost felt like they, they were trying to stretch this movie out a little bit. And of course it paid off for them in the long run making this two parts. It made us so much money that it makes sense. Could they have tried to do it in one? I think they could have. But I understand obviously why that, why that did not Happen. But all in all, like, loved it. I would. I absolutely go see it again, 100%.

[Ria]

And.

[Francesca]

It'S. I still really enjoyed it despite, you know, certain critiques here or there, but nothing, like, nothing crazy. I've seen a lot of opinions on Michelle Yeoh's performance as well, which I think she is such a. I think she's such a fantastic actress. I do think that maybe this was miscast a little bit. Just in this, especially in this second act, the. The singing becomes more apparent, you know, which is. Is fine. But TikTok's gotten a hold of knowing who else auditioned for Madamorable. And, you know, when that happens, everyone's like, it should have been this person. It should have been this person. That whole. That whole thing. But that is everything that I watched.

[Noah]

You guys have been great. Dancing with the Stars.

[Francesca]

Oh.

[Ria]

Prince night. I will give it an A. I mean, the whole season just, you know.

[Francesca]

Yeah, it's been so good.

[Ria]

You know what? Actually, I'll give it an A minus. Yeah, I'm gonna give it an A minus. Because although I love Prince, it felt like a couple of the songs maybe didn't hit as hard with the dances. I. I actually thinking about Alex and Val's Argentine tango. I feel like an Argentine tango needs a song that hits right. And hits you. It hits you hard.

[Francesca]

And Little red Corvette, like, wasn't.

[Ria]

And that wasn't it for the Argentine.

[Francesca]

But it's not their fault.

[Ria]

Not their fault at all.

[Francesca]

I do think my. I think that I also fall in that category. I'd give it an A minus as well. It's so good. I just don't know if I would have gone with a theme night for the semifinal.

[Ria]

I agree.

[Francesca]

I love a theme night and I love the themes throughout the season, but towards the end, I get a little tired of the theme nights. Like, then I'm like, this is their time to really shine. And I love when the pros get a little bit more, like, in their bag of creating a dance that goes with a song that they have more creative choice over or input in. And when you have a theme night, like, you have Prince nights, you really only have so much to work with, and that I think, can limit your choreography a lot for sure. So, yeah, listen, we've all got a lot on our plate right now. You just heard the weekly watchboard. That's a lot of TV we've been watching. We're clocking some hours. We're busy. But when it comes to life, stuff like managing your money, we want to keep things simple. That's why we love Acorns. Acorns lets you save and invest your money without ever thinking about it. And all you have to do to get started is use that spare change. That's because Acorns rounds every purchase that you make up to the nearest dollar and automatically invest your spare change, which is so great. So. So it's like, you know, take you through the weekend. I'm running errands, maybe picking up that, you know, picking up the paper towels at the. At the drugstore or whatever. Maybe a couple dog treats for Olive or a new sweatshirt. I'm always getting cozy new pajamas. Well, that spare change you can use and you can be investing. All you have to do is swipe. And Acorns gives your money a chance to grow and it'll really make you feel like you got your life together. So sign up now and Acorns will boost your new account with a $20 bonus investment. So head to acorns.com chicks or download the Acorns app to get started. Paid non client endorsement compensation provides incentive to positively promote acorns. Tier 2 compensation provided potential subject to various factors such as customers accounts, age and investment settings. Does not include Acorns fees. Results do not predict or represent the performance of any Acorns portfolio. Investment results will vary. Investing involves risk. Acorns Advisors LLC and SEC registered investment advisor. View important [e-mail] chicks.

[Noah]

Okay, I watched All Her Fault. I had finished that before last year, but I was at jury duty. Yes, I liked it a lot. I actually liked the first half better. I did not like the second half of the season. But. But it got to a point where I was like, this guy. Like, this is just the worst guy of all time. Like, it kind of got a little slightly ridiculous for me, but I still liked it. The nut allergy thing or allergy thing kind of hit home a little hard, but I'll give it a B. I thought it was great. It was just. It kind of got a little crazy at the end for me. I've been watching Pluribus, the Apple TV show. I think it's really good. I think you said you didn't enjoy it.

[Ria]

You put it on. I know. I didn't even press play.

[Noah]

Oh, I thought you said you put it on.

[Ria]

No, I opened it up and I said, I'm not interested.

[Noah]

Yeah, I could see you either really liking it or really hating it. It's one of those shows. But I think it's a really cool idea that it is kind of shocking that no one's ever thought of this idea, I guess, but it's pretty crazy. I don't know her name, the actress, but she's really good. Look it up after. But I'll give that an A. Minus the first four episodes. Murdoch. The last one I watched, I'll give it a B. Like, this show is. The story is crazier than the show being good, if that makes sense. Like, yeah. Like, I'm just kind of shocked that this story is true every time I watch the episode. So I'll give that a B. I'll give Dancing with Stars a B plus. Now I'm just watching it.

[Francesca]

Yeah.

[Noah]

Which is, you know, I thought you're in the mix. Yeah. I was upset that Whitney was sent home. I think that's kind of bullshit. But hopefully Robert wins. I think he's. I think he should win.

[Ria]

Yeah. But, yeah, I think. Yeah. I'm torn between him and Alice.

[Noah]

I think that if.

[Ria]

If.

[Noah]

If Elaine or Dylan wins and people are excited for them. That's just, like, really hypocritical. If you were. If those people were also mad that Andy was still on, because now I feel like it's like, they're gonna pity votes too.

[Francesca]

They're still way better dancers than Andy.

[Noah]

They are. But, like, they're not. They're not nearly as good as the people who should win at this point.

[Francesca]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Noah]

And Elaine shouldn't be on the show. Elaine or Dylan should have gone home the last past week.

[Francesca]

Yeah. Yes.

[Noah]

I'll give it a B plus. Enjoying it. It is just like the live aspect is always fun. Like you're watching with everyone. The beast in me. I finished. I'll give that a B minus. Like, it was good. Claire Danes. I haven't really watched much with her, but she kind of creeps me out. I don't know why.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Francesca]

I never watched Homeland.

[Ria]

She always plays a quivering actress. Yeah.

[Francesca]

Yeah.

[Noah]

Like, a little bit too much quivering for me.

[Francesca]

I saw people very much compare. Comparing this character to the Homeland character.

[Noah]

Yeah. Never watched Homeland. Yeah. The villain I said earlier, though, this guy was so creepy. Like, so he was good. But I'll give it B minus. Like, I thought it was. It was. It was a good show. I rewatched the Town. I don't know why. Just popped up.

[Ria]

Nice. Solid.

[Noah]

That's just an A. Always classic. And then I watched Ojai the other night. It's the Logan Lerman. Molly Gordon.

[Francesca]

Oh, hi.

[Noah]

Oh, hi.

[Ria]

Oh, hi.

[Noah]

Oh, hi.

[Francesca]

I don't know why I Like, thought of, like, Ojai. Like, the place.

[Ria]

Yeah. Hawaii.

[Francesca]

Like. Like. Like California. Like, I just, like, yeah, it's a town. I don't know why that was my first thought.

[Noah]

I didn't really.

[Francesca]

Oh, hi.

[Noah]

Know what to expect going in. And I was slightly buzzed when I was watching this, so I don't, like. Like, I didn't really, like, was fully invested my attention on it, but I.

[Francesca]

Feel like I see it on, like, everything.

[Ria]

I keep seeing it as soon as I open up. It's just.

[Noah]

That's why when I was at your apartment, I hadn't seen that. It was on Netflix, but it popped up on.

[Francesca]

Saw it on Netflix, too. I thought about it last night as well, and I was like, nah.

[Noah]

Yeah. I didn't know anything about it. I thought it was going to be more of, like, a romcom type thing.

[Francesca]

And it's not dark comedy, is what.

[Noah]

It says, dark comedy. But. But it was just like. I mean, I don't think it's giving it away. I don't think it's giving anything away. But basically, like, he doesn't want to be in a. They go, like, on this weekend trip to, like, rent some house.

[Francesca]

Yeah.

[Noah]

And everything seems fine. And then he's like, I don't want to be in a relationship. When he's asked. When she's asking, like, basically, like, what they're gonna be. And so she, like, locks him to a bed, or he was already locked to the bed because of some, like, kinky sex thing, but she, like, won't unlock him from the bed until he, like, basically agrees to be in a relationship with her. It kind of just got weird, and there was just like, no character that I was, like, enjoying. So I'll give it a C. But it was. It was short, harmless.

[Ria]

Mm.

[Noah]

But kind of like. I don't know. This is kind of weird. Yeah. But. Yeah, that's all I got.

[Ria]

No Jonas Brothers movie.

[Noah]

I'm not gonna grade that off. The five minutes that I had on.

[Ria]

That's.

[Andrew East]

Yeah.

[Francesca]

You didn't watch the whole thing.

[Noah]

No, no. And, like, I think, as I was saying, it's like, if you're a Jonas Brothers fan, I couldn't think of anything I'd enjoy more. I would have watched it. Like, I enjoyed the parts from the.

[Francesca]

Five minutes that I had on the.

[Noah]

Musical Tokyo, them backstage being like, oh, I can't believe Will Ferrell that was there. Or talking about. But our stalkers. Like, that was all very funny. Like, I just wish it was all that. But when they, like, Break out into song. And it lasted. I actually, like, waited. I'm like, all right, maybe it's pretty quick. And it was, like, going on and on and on.

[Ria]

I'm like, okay, yeah, the musical, you know, wasn't. Well.

[Francesca]

You should try it and just maybe, like, fast forward.

[Ria]

Fast forward to the song.

[Francesca]

Like, fast forward.

[Noah]

I was kind of curious to see, like, what other cameos there would be.

[Francesca]

Yeah, you could just fast. You know, you could fast forward through the song, see how you. See how you feel after that. I forgot to say that I watched episode two and three of Task. Joe and I are watching that. It's. It's like. It's a more of a heavy lift. Like, it's good, but I'm, like, buckling up to watch each episode. One, because they're very long. Yeah, they're. And two, because it's like. It's. It's heavy.

[Noah]

There's not much comedic relief.

[Francesca]

No, it's. It's pretty heavy and dark and. Yeah. So it's like every. And around every turn, it's like, oh, something more depressing is happening. I'm like, oh, okay. Yeah, you like hearing more of, like, what happened with Mark Ruffalo with his son and the. And the wife. And I was like, oh, God. Like, this is just. It is dark. And, you know, they get.

[Noah]

They.

[Francesca]

They, you know, basically kidnapped a kid. I don't know. There's a lot going on. It is. It is very good. But Joe and I have definitely gotten to the point where, like, certain nights were like, oh, do we watch a task? And then we're like, let's just watch something like, you're like, let's just, like, put on squid games.

[Ria]

Probably something light.

[Francesca]

Yeah, like something else. But 2 and 3 were good. I mean, I'll give it a. Get a B plus. I mean, they're really good. They're fantastic episodes. It's just like, I don't know if I'm in. I'm in the mindset currently for. For that. So take on the task. Yes. Nailed it. Yeah, that's. That's it for me.

[Ria]

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[Francesca]

All right, everyone, we are here with two very special guests. We have Shawn Johnson east and Andrew east here in studio. We're so excited to talk to you guys. Thank you for coming in.

[Ria]

Thanks for having us pumped to be here. Yeah, we're super excited.

[Shawn Johnson East]

Thank you.

[Francesca]

We were just, just reminiscing on our People's Choice Award loss.

[Ria]

Yes, yes.

[Shawn Johnson East]

Our brutal.

[Francesca]

Our big loss when we were category.

[Ria]

And Megan Markle beat us all.

[Shawn Johnson East]

She beat everyone.

[Ria]

She beat everybody. And I don't even think she does a podcast anymore.

[Noah]

But we are.

[Ria]

We're. We're all still doing it.

[Francesca]

We are all. We're out here grinding.

[Ria]

That loss did not push us down, guys. We're still doing it.

[Shawn Johnson East]

I'll be nominated again.

[Ria]

Yeah, I think they got rid of that category.

[Francesca]

They got rid of the People's Choice Awards as a whole. Like, they, like, changed it to the country Choice Award, People's Choice.

[Ria]

They were like, these podcasters are piping too much. Like, we got to get rid of the. The whole ceremony. We are so excited to have you guys here. Sean, congrats. Thank you. On finishing.

[Noah]

Thank you.

[Ria]

Very, very huge. I mean, you guys both did such an incredible job.

[Francesca]

Special for.

[Ria]

On Special Forces. Yes. We're here to talk about.

[Francesca]

Yeah, we are here to talk about.

[Ria]

But I mean, wow, what a journey you guys went through on that show. We want to hear all about it.

[Francesca]

Yeah. I want to start by asking you guys because this was the first season that they did they let, like, couples or like, Gia and her, you know, mother daughter do it together because normally it's been so individual, individually based. Were you guys originally approached to do it together or was it just one of you and say, can we both do it?

[Shawn Johnson East]

I had been approached since season one to do it, but I had either been pregnant or, like, freshly postpartum.

[Francesca]

Yeah.

[Shawn Johnson East]

And then this season. Yeah, not the space. And then this season they came back and I remember asking them. I was like, I really Want to do it, but how about we both do it? And they're like, yeah, let's do that.

[Andrew East]

They lowered their standards. They let me come on the show just as the bargaining chip.

[Francesca]

Okay, well, they probably were like, wait, this is a fantastic idea. And it probably opened the door for everybody else to have that opportunity. Because what I was seeing when the cast was announced, it was like, oh, you guys are doing it. And you know, Jesse.

[Ria]

And Eric.

[Francesca]

And Eric as well. And it was like, ooh, this is another dynamic. And certainly watching all the way to the end, you realize that it is mental warfare on having your husband or wife there with you. And how, like, did it gradually get harder for you guys and then all of a sudden you're smacked in the face with this interrogation. Like, how. How did, how was your mental headspace together as a couple up until then?

[Shawn Johnson East]

I think honestly our mental headspace all the way, even through interrogation was fine. I think. Andrew, obviously you got the worst of it because you can see through the entire season. It's just who you are. You're like the people's golden retriever. Like you just love so hard and deeply, which is so amazing.

[Andrew East]

I got roasted in that interrogation that.

[Shawn Johnson East]

But you could see it. They picked up on his just like kind soul. And then they exploited it in the last one, which like the fact that you went out because one, you couldn't lie at all and two, you just had too big of a heart. That it was like too much for you, I think makes me look like I won the frickin jackpot in human beings for a spouse.

[Andrew East]

You're hyping me up right now. I appreciate that.

[Shawn Johnson East]

You're the best human.

[Ria]

I love that.

[Francesca]

That is. And that is so true. Cuz I find like, you know, I've run through being on the show. Like in my mind I'm like, how would I handle all these things? Or whatever. And they immediately like the smallest of smirks and you're getting reamed out. So I don't. That's like the. I would think that that would be so tough to go through. And you feel, you feel like a smiley guy, Andrew. Like, it's like you're. There's like corners of your lips, like, would go up and I'd be like.

[Andrew East]

Oh, it was tough. You asked if it gradually got harder. The interesting thing is like, it was hard from day one. Like the first thing we did, I thought my body was going to shut down physically. And then they put you through a series of like hard workouts and then they put you through some dangerous stuff where you're, like, literally getting hurt. I cracked a rib. My nose got all beat up. There's many people that had to, like, medically withdraw, but then there's, like, this psychological difficulty to it, and so it's just like layer on layer of difficulty. But I will say, the last day, it makes everything else look, like, all fun and games. It's like, dude, yeah, it's wild in there.

[Ria]

When you guys get off that bus the first day, what is going through your head? I mean, they're shoving your face in mud. You're like, oh, this is kind of funny, maybe at first. And then it turns really unfunny pretty quickly.

[Shawn Johnson East]

I think there's been enough seasons now that all of us who went into it on the cast this season, we knew, like. I don't want to say exactly what to expect, but we knew we were gonna get, like, kidnapped at the beginning, and so we were all very, like, smirky to the whole concept. And I feel like when they start screaming at you and putting you through this workout, like, right off that bus, it's just a way to kind of, like, smack you in the face with a reality check of, like, you think you know what's coming, but you don't. And I think we all went from.

[Francesca]

Like, oh, this is so fun, to.

[Shawn Johnson East]

Like, oh, God, what did we sign up for?

[Ria]

Right.

[Shawn Johnson East]

Right?

[Noah]

Yeah.

[Andrew East]

And you don't want to. You don't want to, like, smile or joke around too much, because if you do, then you're gonna make everybody, like, work out, so. So you take it seriously pretty quickly off the bat. But, yeah, I'm excited for you guys to do it.

[Shawn Johnson East]

Even the smiles.

[Ria]

I don't know about that.

[Francesca]

I actually said that I would.

[Shawn Johnson East]

You should.

[Andrew East]

Let's go.

[Francesca]

But I. I don't know.

[Ria]

I'm like, do I want to do that? No. Do I feel like I could do it yet? Yes. Like, I have a lot of faith in myself to be able to prove it.

[Andrew East]

You gotta prove it.

[Ria]

But, like, I could say that without doing it.

[Francesca]

Yeah, right. I don't have to do it, but.

[Ria]

I don't have to do it. But I have a lot of faith. No, I mean, you seem like it does, and you think that you can do it until you get there and you're. And like you said, you're smacked in the face with reality of what's about to come, and it's so incredible to make it to the end, to finish when you signed up for the show and before you Got there. Was there any part of you that thought, I'm not gonna finish?

[Shawn Johnson East]

I went through a range of emotions. Andrew will tell you, I was so scared to leave our babies for that long that I had, like, this master plan of I'm not gonna get emotionally involved in this show. Like, I don't need to prove anything. I'm gonna show up for the first day, and then I'm gonna bow out and go home to our babies. But you're gonna stay and you're gonna win the whole thing. But then so quickly, and it happened to both of us so quickly you show up and you meet these four DS staff, and it becomes so personal because you hear their stories, like, off camera, and you hear how they've created this course and the meaning behind it. And they parallel it to their lives and experiences of when they lost some of their best friends. And then it becomes like, I can't let you. You guys down. And after the first day, I think we were both like, we're gonna finish it.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Shawn Johnson East]

Like, we have to.

[Francesca]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. What's the. I guess, like, what's the relationship you guys have with them? Because with this. With the staff, because you, you. Obviously we all watch you guys get yelled at and all these things, but then when you do those, like, one on one conversations, it sort of seems like a therapy session. And they're pretty good listeners and they have good advice. And then, like. And then, like, you get your armband ripped off of you, and they're like, you're out. And then they're like, you should be really proud of yourself.

[Ria]

Yeah. Such a great job.

[Francesca]

And you're like, wait, I'm sorry. Like, whiplash. Like, what is it?

[Noah]

Yeah.

[Francesca]

So how do you kind of like, form relationships with them?

[Andrew East]

Yeah, the relationship with the DSA is a little confusing, but it's. It's crazy. How good of a job. Have you guys ever done anything with reality tv?

[Ria]

No.

[Francesca]

Oh, no. I mean, not network.

[Ria]

She's not network.

[Andrew East]

I mean, it's. I was thinking it was all gonna kind of be a gimmick, and I wasn't sure what to experience or what to expect behind the camera. But you show up there and you actually. I feel like I learned something about myself and then learned something about Sean, because I think they orchestrate the course by the individuals that are there. And so, like, the way they interact with you is catered to, like, what you need. And so there's some people that need, like, the hard yelling. I think they did hard yelling at most people, but but it really makes you, like, so rarely do you get an opportunity to have someone who's just gonna, like, shoot it to you straight like that. It's so like, you think about all these reality TV stars, you know, going to BravoCon. They have all these fans that are just gonna kind of, like, tell them what they want to hear. And then you show up here, and it's like, you have to get physically stronger.

[Francesca]

Yeah.

[Andrew East]

And you're like, okay, I guess I should get physically stronger. And then it's just such a cool, unique experience that you can either hear their feedback and be like, no, they're wrong. I don't need whatever they're telling me I need. Or you could say, dang, that's a good point. So. Yeah.

[Shawn Johnson East]

But it starts out at the beginning. They're very hard on everybody because they are also trying to figure us out. They're trying to figure out our weak points, what potential we have. And over the course of the 10 days that we did, you know, the. The actual course, they start to learn you more, and you start to learn them, and it grows to be, like, a better relationship, and they never stop being hard on you. But even on, like, the second to last day, where we're hiking up the mountain and we have chains around our neck, if that were the first day, they probably would have ripped armbands off.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Shawn Johnson East]

But they. Since it was the second to last day, they knew who we were. And they were so encouraging.

[Francesca]

Yes.

[Shawn Johnson East]

They're still screaming at you, but they're like, do not give up. Even with Brianna, they were pushing her so hard because they're like, you can finish this. Do not take the armband off. Like. Like, you have to finish this.

[Andrew East]

But it's funny, the way they deliver that encouragement is still by yelling. And so it sounds like they're mad at you, but they're like, keep going.

[Francesca]

Right.

[Andrew East]

You're strong.

[Francesca]

You can do this.

[Noah]

Yeah.

[Ria]

No, that's so funny that you mentioned BravoCon and. And reality TV stars like that. It's like a lot of them need to be put on this show. They need to be smacked in the face with some sort of reality with people yelling at them. But I think we saw that a lot with Gia Giudice, who. Wow. I think. Think. You know, she crushed it. You guys crushed it together. I mean, I think it's never expected that. No. And I think people judge on the outside.

[Shawn Johnson East]

Yeah.

[Ria]

So when you learn about the fact that she has had to take care of her family.

[Noah]

Yeah.

[Ria]

And her mom was there and, like, Almost her mom leaving. Yeah. Was actually better for her, I think, because it was like, I don't have to carry my mom anymore. Like, I'm gonna finish this myself. Yeah. And she did that and, like, gained so much respect from the audience because they were like, oh, this girl is mentally tough for doing this.

[Shawn Johnson East]

She had the coolest story watching the show. It's funny, since we got to watch the show, we got to fill in a lot of gaps of things we didn't even know about our castmates and hearing their stories, but we lived it with them. But seeing her story played out, it was perfect. It's like you have this girl who literally said probably 50 times the first day, I can't do this. I'm gonna quit.

[Andrew East]

And she just, oh, my gosh, I'm gonna throw up.

[Shawn Johnson East]

Or she would yell back at the DS and be like, stop yelling at me. And we were like, chia. And to see how much she matured over 10 days and, like, how much confidence she grew in herself and seeing the DS then gain this respect for her, it was so cool to see.

[Francesca]

Yeah. I loved hearing them talk about her at the end. They were like, man, we really didn't think she was gonna make it to this point. And even, like, right at the. Even right at the end when, you know, like, right when they're, like, pulling that cover over, she's like, I'm not doing this.

[Andrew East]

And they were like, this isn't for me.

[Francesca]

This is not for. And she was able to fight through it and stick it out. I mean, that's what I was.

[Ria]

So.

[Francesca]

I mean, I'm sure. I know Breeze, I'm sure very proud of herself for making it as far as she did, but when they. Because you don't know. I'm sure you don't know in the moment how much time you have left. But hearing the narrator be like, I know there was 10 minutes left. I was like, oh, no.

[Andrew East]

The way they painted that was so dirty.

[Ria]

You know, that's such a bummer. But she still did such an incredible job.

[Shawn Johnson East]

She finished, like, she literally finished, and.

[Ria]

I think it's so amazing. And, Andrew, obviously, you did an incredible job, and I think people expect the guys to do great, right? But when the women finish over, none of the guys.

[Francesca]

The tiniest ones. The tiniest women.

[Ria]

It's so cool to watch, And I think it pumps us all up, but we, you know, at the same time, we know you have that in you because you're an Olympian, and we have watched you since we were young girls. So. So being able to sit with you now and just see you finish this course was incredible.

[Shawn Johnson East]

Thank you. I really needed it. It sounds weird to say, but like I was saying the other day, I competed the Olympics when I was 16, and it's like ever since then, I used the Olympics as a cop out to kind of finish anything else. I was like, I don't need to because I already proved myself. And so that was always my excuse for not going for goals or not, you know, whatever it was, it was a cop out. And then I went on to have babies, and then those, our babies became my excuse of, like, oh, I just had a kid. I can't do this. And I started doubting my ability to do hard things anymore and to really tap into that, like, grit that we saw. And so being able to finish, that gave me a confidence back that I kind of have lost for a while.

[Andrew East]

Girls, competition. Sean. Scary. Well, let me tell you, scary.

[Francesca]

I was just gonna say there were moments where you could see in your face. I was like, that's stone cold killer, Sean. She's absolutely locked in. What did. Did you go to a place that maybe you haven't been to in a while? Because it felt, like, obvious. I think gymnastics is so impressive, but just like, the mental game of gymnastics is so crazy. And I think with our. As time has gone on, our gymnasts have been so much more vocal about the mental toll that the sport takes on them. Coaching their body, all. Everything that goes in on it. And I was like, you know what? I almost see, like, gymnast Sean is locking in here. Did you feel that way when you were doing it?

[Shawn Johnson East]

Oh, absolutely. I felt like it. It just came right back. Yeah, that competitive side. I used to get so nervous for competitions, like when I was competing and I learned how to, like, literally flip a switch and turn it off. I don't know if that's good. I should probably ask a therapist. It's probably not a good ability to have, but so much of this show is something that we would literally pay to do. Like, I am an adrenaline junkie. I want to jump out of helicopters. I didn't mind rappelling off of the 300 foot dam. I thought it was awesome. I even told that to DSQ once and he's like, that's the wrong answer. And I got punished for it.

[Francesca]

I'm sweating, as you know, don't show any excitement. It's not fun.

[Shawn Johnson East]

But when. When it came to, like, pushing through the pain of, like, the physicality, I literally told Andrew I was singing like, 99 bottles of beer on the wall. And that's all I remember. I don't remember anything else. And I can just tune it out.

[Francesca]

Yeah.

[Ria]

Did you guys train a lot for this?

[Shawn Johnson East]

We trained for probably a month, dude.

[Andrew East]

Sean was so locked in, it was like, she does not do morning workouts. Doesn't like them. But for the five weeks I guess we had to prepare, she was waking up at 4:30. She bought all these, like, heavy ruck packs, £50. And I was like, dang, this is. I wouldn't do this unless you put me through it.

[Ria]

But yeah.

[Andrew East]

Yeah.

[Francesca]

Is it? And you kind of needed it too, because there's. Especially with, like, those chains and everything. I'm like, those chains. This. Sean's caring more than probably how much she weighs, right?

[Shawn Johnson East]

I was. And I truly. So I was already on, like, this fitness journey back from postpartum. I knew we were done having kids, and I was like, I just really want to feel strong again. So it worked out. Great timing. I had had this remarkable trainer who really brought me back from my lowest, like, in physical shape point. And then when the show called, I had told my trainer, and he went back and watched every season, and he's like, this is what we're gonna do. And I remember having the chains on my neck that day. And I was like, if it weren't for Mark, I would be dead. I would be dead.

[Francesca]

Yeah.

[Ria]

Well, you guys.

[Francesca]

You guys. You guys made it through. And I'm sure all that football training came back for you too, right?

[Andrew East]

Like, so what was interesting is I feel like I was pretty well equipped with the physical challenges.

[Shawn Johnson East]

You said it was literally easy, like the chain one.

[Andrew East]

No, I'm sorry, but wasn't it?

[Francesca]

There's a lot of pro athletes that were on there that did not make it as far.

[Andrew East]

You know, it got so dangerous out there. But what's interesting is, you know, the two girls finished, and I think even though they were the smallest physically, like, that might have been one of their weak points, although Sean still crushed it. But, like, mentally they were the most. Like, they were the quickest to think on their feet, which. Which was, like, really good in the interrogation standpoint. So, like, no matter what your strengths or weaknesses are, you had an opportunity to, like, flex it a little bit. And, yeah, so the football training did help, but only so much.

[Francesca]

Do you get to see anybody, like, when they leave, or is it really as abrupt as it comes across on the show? Because I know you guys are there and they're. They're filming all day. And the way it's portrayed on TV is just like some of these people, either they get sick or they get hurt or they quit. And then they're like, this person quit.

[Ria]

Bye.

[Noah]

And you never.

[Francesca]

There's no like exit interview. There's no nothing. Like, so when they leave, do you get to see any of them? Or they're just gone.

[Shawn Johnson East]

They literally are driven to the airport and they're out. Yeah, like their bags are going like already in the car. The craziest part about this quote show is, is it's not a reality TV show that was scripted to be like a Navy seal. You know, it is a military course, or they call it a course. It's a military challenge that just so happens to be filmed. There's no on time, off time. You don't see a production crew, you don't speak to producers. Nobody's allowed to talk to you. You can't ask to go to the bathroom. You can't. Like, you're literally in the military for 10 days and there are just cameras set up like GoPros pretty much around everything.

[Ria]

That's crazy. So producers are not talking to you at all?

[Shawn Johnson East]

They're not allowed to. You don't see that?

[Ria]

I love that. I love that aspect of this show because with so many reality TV shows, you know that there's a producer behind the camera asking a question to get an answer back. No, this is just raw footage.

[Shawn Johnson East]

Very raw. And. And that's why I think people get so comfortable so quickly. Like in the barracks and they're talking like everything is truly a security camera. There's not even like cameras like this set up. It's just like in the corner and they're running 24 7. They have an entire crew that's watching you sleep and like picking up notes. If you're talking, but you don't see anybody.

[Ria]

Yeah, that's.

[Francesca]

I mean, obviously that's how they make it as real as possible. Which. Good, good for them on that. Cuz really you see these people leave and then they're gone. It's like Randall Cobb was doing so well. All of a sudden it was just like he was like. That got too real. And then he just like, poof.

[Ria]

Disappeared.

[Francesca]

Yeah, then he was gone. And I was like, oh my God. It's like we don't even get to hear like what his thought process was, all these things. But it is, it is so insanely intense. And I know they talked, you guys both a lot about your kids and leaving your kids at home. And it was the longest you've been away from them? What did you guys share with them about this show? And have they. Did they get to watch maybe some of the crazy things you guys did?

[Andrew East]

They've seen little clips of like the helicopter. Sean was able to keep her uniform and brought it back home. So our four year old's been living in it ever since the show.

[Ria]

That's so cute. He loves it.

[Shawn Johnson East]

He wants to be an army man now.

[Francesca]

Yeah.

[Andrew East]

I mean, there's quite a lot of. I think they bleep a lot of them out, but there's a lot of swearing. So we haven't shown them all of it. Just like kind of the fun, the fun clips.

[Francesca]

Right. Because I'm like, you, like you said, you rappelling down that wall. Like that's would be cool to show without obviously all the other parts.

[Shawn Johnson East]

Our six year old has seen the most of, like all of our kids since they're 6, 4 and 2. And she keeps asking to see more. She's like, I want to watch the army show. And I'm like, oh, gosh.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Shawn Johnson East]

And I don't know, I'm like, I don't know how to explain to her why mommy's getting screamed at and I'm bawling.

[Ria]

Right, right. And just mute it. Yeah, yeah.

[Shawn Johnson East]

So they'll get to see more and more. But like, our nieces and nephews are older and they're obsessed with it. They're like watching the podcast and they're watching everything. It was.

[Ria]

It's wild.

[Andrew East]

I hope our kids do, at some point watch it and they're able to realize, I mean, Shawn, time and time again, whatever show she does, she just freaking shows up and dominates.

[Shawn Johnson East]

So did you.

[Andrew East]

I hope, like our daughter watches it and is just inspired to take on whatever challenge like you have.

[Francesca]

So, I mean, you guys both absolutely crushed it. And I do love that you both had like that mindset of, of we will, we will get through this. Because, you know, I very much understand where, like for Jesse and Eric, I totally get it. And it's like you have your person and if he's done, I'm done. But I was like, oh. Like, I wanted to see. Because she was. I wanted to see how far Jesse could have, how far she could take it because it really did feel like the women were crushing it. Did you guys know them before you went on?

[Ria]

Yes.

[Francesca]

Right? Yeah.

[Shawn Johnson East]

We live really close to each other. Our kids go to school together.

[Francesca]

Amazing.

[Ria]

That's awesome. Yeah, I, I feel you on that. I, I wanted him to be like, stay and do it. Yeah. But at the same time, I guess.

[Francesca]

I, I, maybe he, it's his wife.

[Ria]

He knows her best. If she's like, hey, if you're out, I'm out, then, then that's fine. Absolutely. But you guys, congrats again. So awesome. You crushed it. We did mention at the beginning of this that we were some people's choice podcast losers together, which is a very strong bond that we all have. I want to know what made you guys decide to start your podcast together and kind of enter into a business together?

[Shawn Johnson East]

Because we're crazy. We wanted to start our podcast. It's called Couple Things. Because I got really tired of watching headlines about people getting divorced and hearing people say that if you find the one, it should be easy and you will never argue. And, and I don't know, I just wanted to kind of break down relationships and marriage and bring in psychologists and just show that the great side of marriage, even though it takes a lot.

[Francesca]

Of work, we have a lot of.

[Shawn Johnson East]

Fun talking about couples.

[Andrew East]

It's been really nice because we started right around the time we had our first kid. And the amount of time you get with intentional conversation, like, as a married couple when you have young kids is few and far between. Like, it's not a lot. And so the podcast has really been an excuse for us to have, have discussions about topics we probably otherwise wouldn't. And I think we're, we're better off for it.

[Francesca]

Yeah, that's so true. You don't even really think about that. It's just like the day to day, you're so, so busy.

[Noah]

Go, go, go.

[Francesca]

And this is carved out time for you guys really just to, to talk to each other. What. Have you guys set any, like, boundaries for the podcast? What is, is, is there anything that's on the. Hey, we're not talking about this list. Are you guys like, hey, we got.

[Ria]

To put it all out there.

[Andrew East]

It's such an interesting. I mean, the Internet is such a.

[Ria]

Wild place, you know, it really is.

[Noah]

I'm curious.

[Andrew East]

There's, there's always this pull to, I call it like emotional promiscuity where it's like, oh, man, you know, we could get on there and cry, and I'm sure that would do really well, but it's probably not good for us. And so as like, tempting as that is, sometimes to just like, you know, emotionally vomit everything, one of the boundaries we have is like, whatever we talk about, we've had to work through it already.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Andrew East]

And it's not like we're figuring it out live. It's like, no, if there's. If there's, like, a point of contention, it's. It's kind of been resolved, and now we're talking about what we've learned through that, as opposed to just, you know, mudslinging live, right?

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Shawn Johnson East]

And since it is our life and just marriage can be messy, we have had times where we'll, like, go to film podcast, and we'll end up getting an argument or, like, whatever. We'll figure out that it wasn't resolved yet, and we'll just be like, well, yeah, cut this one. Try again.

[Francesca]

All right, we'll revisit this tomorrow.

[Ria]

Glad we talked about cut.

[Shawn Johnson East]

Anders.

[Francesca]

We'll come back to this one tomorrow.

[Shawn Johnson East]

Andrew had an idea of filming a podcast once about our biggest arguments.

[Andrew East]

Wouldn't recommend it.

[Francesca]

Would not recommend it.

[Shawn Johnson East]

And I don't think any of our biggest arguments are resolved. So we got rid of that one.

[Francesca]

You're like, there's still. There's still time. Maybe one day you'll. You'll be able to revisit that one. Well, you guys are almost at 10 years of marriage, which is amazing, and I like to consider myself still a newlywed, even though it's been over a year. She is a newlywed.

[Ria]

Congratulations, April.

[Francesca]

I was September of 2024.

[Shawn Johnson East]

April what?

[Ria]

April 25th.

[Shawn Johnson East]

We're April 16th.

[Ria]

I love it. I love April. That was like a. My parents got married in April. Friends got married in April. My grandparents. Big wow. Yeah.

[Andrew East]

I mean, how's it going so far?

[Ria]

Love it. I mean, I. I love being married. He's, like, my best friend in the whole world. Not to. Not to make this about me, but, like, I absolutely love it. Like, it's.

[Francesca]

Yeah, it's. It's been amazing. But that's why I wanted to ask you guys, you know, going on. Going on 10 years, and you obviously talk about your relationship publicly and all these things, and I'm sure you're asked this all the time, but what's your. You have your marriage advice that you give to. To newlyweds.

[Noah]

I don't know.

[Andrew East]

I don't know if we're the people to give relationship advice, but honestly, I just feel like I have the best teammate I could ask for in Sean, and she is. I feel like she's the most capable, talented woman I know, and she also the most humble, and it's been so cool, and I'm so grateful for, like. I feel like you've made room for me despite all the Things you could do or all your ambitions that you could pursue. It's like, you've really made space for our family, which, you know, it's not. It's not a necessity by any means. It's just something you've done, like, intentionally so. Thank you.

[Shawn Johnson East]

I. I know it's ridiculous. You're the sweetest. I. I got to marry my best friend, which is the greatest thing in the entire world. But marriage can be difficult. You go through so many seasons of life where things change. You get new jobs or careers and have babies or move or. Life just can get hard. And I think something that Andrew and I agreed to very early on in our relationship was to never stop working for our marriage. And I feel like my piece of advice with marriage is complacency can hurt a marriage. You always need to be trying to learn about your spouse and do better for them. And if you can do that, and if you can reflect on your marriage frequently and say, like, what can I do better next week or tomorrow? If you're always trying, it makes it so much better because you get through these phases with a lot more ease rather than, like, tension.

[Ria]

Definitely. And I love the way that you guys speak about each other and to each other. It's so sweet. You're so complimentary of each other, so supportive. And I feel like that's so important, right? Because I. I hate watching, like, a couple, like, put down their wives or put down their husbands. And jokes are fine. Everybody jokes around. But, like, the jokes that you're like, that one just feels like it was a little too real. But hyping each other up is the best. So watching you guys do that, even here today, I love it like that. That's my favorite part of marriage, too, as well. So seeing you guys do that, I. I think just.

[Andrew East]

I love it by the way we've done that. And it's like. And you realize that it just. Why would you do that?

[Ria]

Like, this is.

[Andrew East]

I can either be married, and it could go really well, and we could, like, better each other, you know, like, sharpen each other, or we could just be cutting each other down and then make each other sad. It's like, why would we do that?

[Ria]

Right? You're like, I married you for a reason, and it's because I love all these great things about you, so why not say it?

[Noah]

Yeah.

[Ria]

I don't know.

[Shawn Johnson East]

We've also learned that, like, especially in marriage, your spouse has the most power to either hurt you or help you. And because they know you've done, we've done it wrong. Yeah, we've done it wrong. We've hurt each other. And nothing is worse than that.

[Francesca]

Yeah.

[Andrew East]

But I was thinking about this as a marriage strategy, actually. I was just writing this down, like, journaling. I was like, all right, the stronger I can help Sean become, then the better than she can help me become stronger. And so it's like, it's in my best interest to, like, pour into her as much as I can, because then ultimately, like, helps both of us out in a cool way. So that's. That's kind of been my new. This is like, a revelation as a couple.

[Shawn Johnson East]

Oh, really?

[Francesca]

Thinking about this. I haven't told you yet, but I've got a whole.

[Ria]

Like, when I get home, the Chicks in the office podcast. I want to break this down.

[Francesca]

I got whole notes every.

[Ria]

A very serious problem.

[Francesca]

No, no.

[Ria]

I love it.

[Francesca]

You are right, though. And I had someone tell me that it's kind of like a ladder, but it's like each person has to put the next.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Francesca]

Row up on the ladder because then it's like you will continue to climb, but you.

[Ria]

But you.

[Francesca]

You each need to put one, like, thing up so that you can each both go up.

[Ria]

Exactly. Because I think that is a great example, because I think in a great marriage, you both get better. Yeah. And. And it's like you can see that. You could see that happening, like, your life growing together. Well.

[Shawn Johnson East]

And you have to also be prepared to truly hold each other up when you're at your low points. Marriage doesn't always have to be fun because we've both gone through phases and funks where it's like, I went through postpartum depression, and that's not fun for a spouse. But he really lifted me up and we got through that phase. And then he's gone through phases where I've had to, like, like you said, you just always have to be right. Someone's working for the other.

[Francesca]

Exactly. Sadly, we have to wrap up, but we could talk to you guys for forever. We do have one last question. It is our luminous Armani luminous silk concealer question for you guys. We know Dancing with the Stars is obviously a big part of. Of your journey as well. And I think you guys were at the 20th. Yeah, so we. We were there as well. We were on the balcony. I'm like, I think that's.

[Ria]

We.

[Francesca]

We just were up here waving down to everybody.

[Andrew East]

I'm like, there are People's Choice award win.

[Ria]

Yeah, they suck us in the bleachers again.

[Francesca]

This season has been so fun to watch. I wanted to know if you guys have any favorites or who you're rooting for in the. In the finale next season.

[Shawn Johnson East]

Well, so incredibly shocked about last night.

[Francesca]

I know.

[Shawn Johnson East]

I cannot believe Whitney got eliminated because she is a phenomenal, magical dancer. I said week one that I thought Robert was going to win, like, absolutely hands down. However, Dylan is really coming up in the ranks and so is Alex.

[Francesca]

Yeah.

[Shawn Johnson East]

And so is Jordan.

[Francesca]

Yeah.

[Ria]

Yeah, you're right. Everyone is fantastic.

[Francesca]

Everyone is really so happy.

[Ria]

That's a great. Pissed that Whitney's gone because she is such a phenomenal dancer.

[Shawn Johnson East]

Amazing dancer.

[Ria]

I think that Robert has this pizzazz in him that, like, we love Dylan.

[Shawn Johnson East]

Yeah.

[Ria]

But I think Robert's got this. Just also got this spark.

[Shawn Johnson East]

Prince was zooming on Dancing with the Stars with him. That was wild.

[Francesca]

This guy's got star power. Prince William. William.

[Ria]

What?

[Shawn Johnson East]

Zoomed in to his rehearsal to say, like, I'm just cheered for how you do it.

[Ria]

I was like, luck, Right? And then finally Zac Efron showed up after that because I guess Zac Efron was like, well, they got Prince William.

[Francesca]

Call him the big gun.

[Ria]

So did you watch the episode without me? What the. What the heck?

[Shawn Johnson East]

No, not the 20th last night.

[Noah]

No.

[Shawn Johnson East]

This would have been watching in the.

[Ria]

Car all day at the 20th anniversary.

[Francesca]

20Th anniversary was Prince William.

[Shawn Johnson East]

He wasn't there.

[Francesca]

Oh. Oh, okay.

[Shawn Johnson East]

It was just me. I took three of my girlfriends.

[Ria]

Fair, Fair.

[Francesca]

So fair. Okay, thank you guys so much for joining us.

[Ria]

Thank you so much.

[Francesca]

And Special forces was amazing. And make sure you tell everyone where they can also listen to a couple things as well.

[Andrew East]

You can listen to Chicks in the Office relationship therapy edition. Just right here on this channel.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Andrew East]

Our show is called A couple Things and you can find it on YouTube and all the podcast places. So check it out.

[Ria]

Yeah. Amazing.

[Francesca]

Thank you guys so much.

[Shawn Johnson East]

Of course.

[Ria]

That wraps up today's episode of Ticks in the Office. Just a reminder, Black Friday sale at Barstool Sports. Coming Thursday night, we have two new sweatshirts we're excited to put out. Just classic Chicks in the Office for those loyal listeners out there. We can't wait to show them. And remember, reminder, those Philly tickets are on sale, so make sure you get them. We can't wait for our holiday spectacular. Everybody, have a lovely week, a lovely Thanksgiving, and we will talk to you on Monday. Love you. Big hugs and smooches.

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[Francesca]

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