DWTS Wicked Night Recap + Love Island's Casey O'Gorman & Tom Clare Interview

Summary

Chicks in the Office

Episode: DWTS Wicked Night Recap + Love Island's Casey O'Gorman & Tom Clare Interview
Date: October 24, 2025
Hosts: Ria and Fran (Barstool Sports)
Guests: Casey O’Gorman & Tom Clare (Love Island)

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Episode Overview

This episode of Chicks in the Office delivers a lively recap of Dancing with the Stars (DWTS) “Wicked Night,” breaking down the performances, judges’ scores, and fan reactions with the humor and blunt honesty Ria and Fran are known for. The show also features an energetic, candid interview with Love Island’s Casey O’Gorman and Tom Clare, discussing their reality TV experiences, life after the villa, celebrity encounters, and their adventures in NYC. The episode wraps up with the popular trivia game segment.

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DWTS Wicked Night Recap

Starts: [06:11]

Main Points

• Overall Vibe & Theme:

  • Both hosts loved the “Wicked Night” theme, especially the producers’ decision to follow the musical's story order through the episode.
  • “They do such a great job with the themes and Wicked Night exceeded my expectations. I love that they did it in show order...which I thought was so smart.” – Rhianne [06:53]

• Guest Judge:

  • Jon M. Chu, director of the upcoming Wicked film, joined as a guest judge.
  • “Jon M. Chu knows what he’s talking about when it comes to Wicked, obviously.” – Fran [07:35]
  • Some controversy when he scored Alix Earl an 8 instead of 9s like the other judges.

• Fan Frustrations & Judging Discourse:

  • Ongoing online debates about scoring fairness and favoritism, especially for Whitney and Mark. Some think they get special treatment; Ria and Fran counter that they’re simply excellent.
  • “She’s really f***ing good, so we just need to leave it at that.” – Fran [09:16]
  • The phenomenon of “score inflation,” where once a 10 is awarded, fans want everyone’s favorite to get one.

• Performance Highlights:

  • Whitney & Mark:
    • Mark’s choreography and technical expertise praised; the couple’s first 10 stirred TikTok debates.
    • “He is the vet...he’s so good at making those arrangements fit to the dance that it just makes the star look better.” – Rhianne [10:53]
  • Elaine:
    • Her performance described as magical and tear-jerking, despite less technical dancing at the end.
    • “She’s so inspiring actually to see her up there.” – Fran [13:13]
    • Both hosts felt she deserved at least one 10 for her moment (not just the dancing).
  • Jordan & Ezra:
    • Their routine incorporated internet “finger hold” references, amusing the hosts. Ezra’s first perfect score as a pro.
    • “Ezra dropped to the floor. He was shocked. I think it was his first time getting tens ever as a pro.” – Fran [13:43]

• Elimination:

  • Scott & Riley sent home instead of Andy, sparking debate.
  • Fran admits Andy staying is fun now, but warns it’ll cause backlash if he stays over stronger dancers like Elaine or Danielle.
  • “If Andy’s staying over Elaine or Danielle or Dylan...we got a problem on our hands.” – Fran [17:58]

• Competitor Ranking:

  • Hosts’ top tier: Alex, Robert, Whitney, and (now) Jordan.
  • Danielle recognized for her Argentine Tango; Dylan appreciated for enthusiasm despite needing technical polish.

• Rooting Interests & Reality of “No Dance Experience”:

  • Hosts challenge the “no experience” premise:
    • “I want to be entertained. So do I enjoy watching Whitney put on a performance of a lifetime? Yes.” – Fran [22:51]
    • Discussion of past contestants with dance backgrounds (Jojo Siwa, Charlie D’Amelio, boy banders, etc.).

• Social Media & Confidence Issues:

  • The negative online energy towards confident female contestants like Whitney called out by Fran:
    • “A lot of people don’t like confidence. And Whitney has a lot of confidence. And I love it.” – Fran [24:00]
  • Criticism of “playing to the camera” dismissed as misunderstanding performance art.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On the dance-offs between fan factions:

  • “People are also really, like, once the first 10s get thrown out, everyone’s like ‘Alex deserved a 10, Robert deserved a 10’...then everybody deserved a 10.” – Rhianne [08:07]

• On Andy’s longevity:

  • “I honestly, I think Andy’s tired. I think he’s got to be exhausted.” – Fran [17:49]

• On performance bias:

  • “There is viewer bias on the style of dance...A jazz or contemporary is just more fun to watch than, like, a foxtrot.” – Rhianne [09:41]

• Calling out bitterness in the fandom:

  • “I think some people might be banding against Whitney to try to get her off the show...which I think is really just spiteful for no reason.” – Fran [22:11]

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Love Island: Casey & Tom Interview

Starts: [26:03]

Their New York Adventures & Celebrity Encounters

• First Impressions of NYC:

  • Tom and Casey marveled at NYC’s energy and nightlife.
  • “I didn’t realize how lively it was... everyone goes out.” – Casey [27:06]
  • Both have visited before, but this was Casey’s first real NYC weekend in a long time.

• Meeting Bradley Cooper:

  • “We were walking down the street and I said to Tom, that’s Bradley Coop. He was like, ‘Yeah, all right’...I was like, ‘No, that’s Bradley Cooper!’” – Casey [34:24]
  • Bradley Cooper recognized Casey from Love Island (“You won it!”), which left them stunned and delighted.

• On Post-Show Life:

  • Casey’s split with Gabby—integration of “villa life” to real life just didn’t work out [28:21].
  • Tom, meanwhile, is engaged to Molly and spoke about their closeness post-show.
  • “She’s my person. She’s like my best friend. We do everything together... now we’re engaged.” – Tom [29:28]

• Reality TV Careers:

  • Casey openly admits Love Island is a full-time job and returned for the money: “My job is now Love Island...I wouldn’t have done it if it was for free.” [30:49]
  • Both discuss villa differences in South Africa vs. Fiji, and the joys/challenges of new filming locations.

• Fan Interactions:

  • Casey and Tom noted they’re recognized more in New York than London, and recounted intense fan pursuits, like Snapchat followers tracking their live locations. [38:41]
  • “We’ve had a couple crazy fan interactions here this weekend.” – Casey [38:32]

• On joining other reality shows:

  • Casey is up for more TV, mentions The Traitors (US or UK), and would love to try Strictly Come Dancing.
  • “I loved being on TV...I’d love to do The Traitors...maybe even Strictly.” – Casey [51:02]

Light-hearted Bits

• Tabloid Life & “Toe-gate”:

  • Tom’s tabloid story about being photographed sucking a toe on a boat off Ibiza was shared with lots of laughs. [58:34]
  • “The next day we woke up to this article and it’s a paparazzi on the cliff and Tom’s got a toe in his mouth.” – Casey [58:34]

• NYC vs. LA Dating:

  • Casey strongly prefers New York to LA, especially for the dating scene:
  • “The girls are so much better in New York.” – Casey [41:32]

• Proposal Planning:

  • Tom shares sweet, detailed insights about keeping his Dubai engagement proposal secret.
  • “I had about 12 people in a WhatsApp group in Dubai... I think I smashed it.” – Tom [44:31]

• How They Were Cast:

  • Casey was scouted in person at a bar, Tom got the DM.
  • “That’s the best thing to do because on an interview or DM you don’t know what they’re like...” – Casey [49:25]

• Managing Private vs. Public Life:

  • Tom: “We keep a lot of stuff private, but we also share what we want to share as well... people love our journey.” [64:39]
  • Casey: “If I find someone, I think it depends what they want to do... I don’t want to date an influencer now. It’s time to switch up.” [65:37]

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Notable Quotes

• About being recognized by celebrities:

  • “Last time I was here, I met Ryan Reynolds. So I was like, this is, like, sick. Two of the greatest actors ever.” – Casey [34:51]
  • “We see these two girls... ‘we’ve had your Snapchat notifications on all day and we were coming to find you.’ I was like, oh my God.” – Casey [38:40]

• On being a Love Island mainstay:

  • “I feel like my job is now Love Island...I’m full time.” – Casey [30:49]
  • When questioned about how many more times he’d go back: “They wouldn’t [pay more]. With the All Stars, it’s a set thing so no one gets more than the others.” – Casey [33:12]

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Trivia Game Segment

Starts: [67:26]

• Regular Feature:

  • Listeners Amelia and Aaron join for a head-to-head trivia segment.
  • Wide-ranging pop-culture questions on movies, music, TV, and Harry Potter.

• Memorable Trivia Moments:

  • Fran’s excitement at correctly answering: “Pottery Barn. Final answer, correct.” ([75:09])
  • Music, movie, and TV questions sparked fast-talking banter—e.g., Red, White and Royal Blue, Amy Poehler roles, and more.
  • “That is shocking...[that One Direction opened for Big Time Rush].” – Fran [75:39]

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Important Timestamps

• [06:11] – DWTS Wicked Night recap begins
• [13:01] – Elaine’s emotional performance, should’ve gotten a 10
• [17:49] – Controversy over Andy’s continued competition presence
• [24:00] – Fran addresses the hate for confident contestants
• [26:03] – Love Island’s Casey & Tom interview starts
• [34:24] – Meeting Bradley Cooper in NYC
• [38:41] – Intense, real-life fan interactions in NYC
• [44:00] – Tom discusses planning his (secret) proposal
• [49:02] – How Casey was scouted in person for Love Island
• [58:34] – Tom’s Ibiza paparazzi moment (“toe-gate”)
• [67:26] – Trivia game with listeners begins

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Final Thoughts & Tone

• Energy & Honesty: The hosts maintain an upbeat, irreverent vibe, aren’t afraid to express strong opinions about reality TV tropes, viewer biases, or social media drama.
• Original Language: Frequent use of casual, sometimes explicit phrasing; plenty of inside pop culture jokes and references.
• Fan Engagement: Emphasis on behind-the-scenes experiences, the reality of fame, and the balance between authenticity and public personas.
• Strong Community: Throughout, the hosts and guests create a sense of supportive friendship and fandom, all about sharing the fun and drama of pop culture.

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Listen if you want...

• An impassioned, comedic breakdown of DWTS drama
• Straight-talk about reality TV fame from the cast themselves
• Hilarious tales of celebrity encounters and viral moments
• Insight on dating, privacy, and life post-reality TV
• Fast-paced, pop-culture trivia fun

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[Rhianne]

What's up, everyone?

[Fran]

It's chicks in the office with Rhianne Fran giving you that Friday energy on a Friday. Happy Friday, everybody. Reporting to you live from the past. We are recording this a little bit ahead of time because we do have our show in D.C. but we are going to be recapping Dancing with the Stars Wicked night because how can we not? We also have a fun interview with Casey and Tom from Love island, who are a lot of fun. And we have a great game of trivia. Trivia was on fire this week. Yes. And then on Monday we'll have Halloween trivia to get you ready for the spooky Halloween right around the corner.

[Rhianne]

So we are back on Monday for an episode, but no episodes Wednesday and Friday. So we have Halloween trivia on Monday.

[Fran]

Yes, we do, because we can't give you our typical Halloween episode. But don't worry, we'll be posting a ton of videos, tiktoks, the whole shebang of our Halloween costumes. So you will not miss out, but unfortunately won't be able to be, you know, in character for the episode like we have been the past couple years. But that is all very exciting. And Halloween trivia is always a blast because you never know what you're gonna get. You know what I mean? The holiday trivia. You just never know. How are we feeling, everybody? We're about to head out.

[Rhianne]

Great. Excited to travel and get to the shows and it's gonna be a lot of fun.

[Fran]

Yes. We're gonna have a blast now.

[Noah]

How are you? I am as well. Yeah, I'm excited. I feel like I like that, like the team camaraderie on the road.

[Fran]

Yeah, you love a good show day.

[Noah]

Yeah, I love a good pre show night, actually. Like maybe the.

[Fran]

You know how it's like pre show night.

[Noah]

Well, you know how it's like Christmas Eve is actually better than Christmas. That's how I feel.

[Rhianne]

It's like the night before our show.

[Noah]

It's also like the actual show itself is obviously very fun, but it is like a who working and like, so the night before it's like, let's have a nice dinner.

[Fran]

Yeah, we always get a nice dinner in a couple of drinks. Everyone's in a goofy, funny mood.

[Noah]

Finally at the hotel bar.

[Fran]

Yeah, always.

[Tom]

Always.

[Fran]

You're testing out the hotel bars, so yeah, that'll be great tonight. But we will get into the rest of the episode.

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[Fran]

Really, the most important topic today is Dancing with the Stars. Wicked Night was Tuesday night. Everybody was locked in. There's so much discourse happening around this season. Everyone's mad all the time. You know, like, there's a lot of fighting going on on the Internet right now with Dancing with the Stars, but we're here to alleviate that. You know, we're here to give our flowers to all the contestants who deserve it.

[Rhianne]

It's just a fun night. It's a fun. It's the best show. I just, I love the show. I love that they did Wicked Night.

[Fran]

We're the best show.

[Rhianne]

Yes.

[Fran]

Because we're going on tour.

[Rhianne]

Well, they're the best show on tv.

[Fran]

Yes. Right now.

[Rhianne]

You know, if we were on tv, it'd be us.

[Fran]

That's true.

[Rhianne]

Could be one day.

[Fran]

Yeah. You never know.

[Rhianne]

But they do such a great job with the themes and Wicked Night exceeded my expectations. I love that they did. I love that they did it in show order. Like all the music went in show order from start to finish of the show, which I thought was so smart. Took you on the whole journey through Wicked. John M. Chu was the guest judge and I thought he was fantastic. Good feedback, fun addition to the. To the judges panel. And really everybody crushed it. I mean, the opening number was so fun. The whole show was so fun. I loved, really start to finish. I had no complaints.

[Fran]

Yeah. Jon M. Chu Knows what he's talking about when it comes to Wicked, obviously. So he's, you know, grading on a. Probably a higher scale to start the show, you know, I think he hit Alix earl with an 8. And people were not too pleased with that. You know, she got nines otherwise. And an eight slipped in there.

[Rhianne]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Fran]

From John. And people were right.

[Rhianne]

He didn't know what the vibe was.

[Fran]

And people were unhappy with that 8 thrown at Alex. And you know what? Compared to the other dances, when Andy gets a seven, does Alex deserve an eight? No.

[Rhianne]

She should have at least gotten all nines. And, you know, we were throwing tens out there on. On Tuesday, so, like, that's. People are also really, like, once the first tens. Here's the problem. Once the first tens get thrown out, everybody wants their favorite to get 10 for sure. Like, once the first 10 gets out, everyone's like, Alex deserved a 10, Robert deserved a 10. Every. You know, then everybody deserved a 10.

[Fran]

Do I think Alex deserved a 10? No. Do I think Robert deserved a 10?

[Rhianne]

I think it was all nines.

[Fran]

I think Alex deserved all nines. I think Robert deserved a 10.

[Rhianne]

Yeah.

[Fran]

Somewhere in there. Yeah.

[Rhianne]

It was just kind of.

[Fran]

Maybe not because it was fun.

[Rhianne]

I loved it so much, But I think realistically, I would have gone, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Fran]

Specifically.

[Rhianne]

Yeah. I think Robert was actually scored pretty well.

[Fran]

Yeah. Then Whitney got the first ten. Whitney and Mark. And people are losing their goddamn minds about Whitney and Mark on TikTok. Give it a rest. She's fantastic.

[Rhianne]

Yes, she is. Suck it up.

[Fran]

She's great. What are you gonna do about it?

[Rhianne]

I know.

[Fran]

Like, just let it be. Why are you so mad that she's so good? All this talk about special treatment. Da, da, da, da, da. Because of Mark.

[Rhianne]

Well, you know what?

[Fran]

She's really fucking good, so we just need to leave it at that. Well, we can also root for everybody else. Robert is also fantastic in their eyes. Was it a ten dance? No, I guess not. I think they thought that her quick step was a ten dance, not Robert's. So, I mean, I think people are. You can want your faves to get certain scores, but you're knocking down other people who are really good.

[Rhianne]

Yeah. I do think that there is, like, viewer bias on the style of dance, too, because some dances are just naturally more exciting. Like a jazz or a contemporary is just more fun to watch most of the time, I think, from, like, the normal viewer than, like, a foxtrot or a quick step. You're like, oh, yeah, that was fun. But we don't know all the rules of a foxtrot. And a quick step that were like, oh, that was such an amazing quick step. And I do think, you know, yes, people think Mark is. You know, there's favoritism or whatever it is. Mark's also just incredibly good at his job. So it's just like, I don't think viewers can be mad at him for that. He's done it for so long. He's so good. He is the vet. Like, he is the pro that has all that experience. So he has also said, you know, he has a hand in working out the arrangement and all those things, which really end up being so good. Because, of course, you can't dance to the whole song. It's just bits and pieces of the song. So he's so good at making those arrangements fit to the dance that it just makes the star look better. It's just the way it goes.

[Fran]

Yeah. And I. I agree with that. And also, when I watched Whitney and Mark's dance, was I like, oh, my God, that was the best thing I've ever seen. No, because the quick step is pretty in my eyes. A little bit boring. They're just, like, hopping across the stage.

[Rhianne]

Yeah.

[Fran]

Technically, to the judges, they had an amazing quick step.

[Rhianne]

Yeah, I did.

[Fran]

I don't know what it's like. You know what I mean? They're all. To me, it looks like they're hopping around on stage. But besides that, her facial expressions, everything else that goes into it, she really sells it.

[Rhianne]

She really does.

[Fran]

And that is undeniable. There were some other great dances. I mean, Elaine was just magical. The ending, it was tear jerking, tear jerking. You know, you're watching. You're watching Lisanne Walters in the crowd just light up watching her bestie on that stage. I saw your sister post this and I kind of agreed. But also at the same time, it was such a magical moment that I really don't care that much. Not that much dancing at the end of that. You know what I mean?

[Rhianne]

Yeah, for sure, for sure.

[Fran]

Right. So. But still a magical moment.

[Rhianne]

Yeah, I do.

[Fran]

Would I replace it with more dancing? No, because I wanted to see that moment. But I do understand where it's like, well, there wasn't that much dancing in that moment. Yeah.

[Rhianne]

And it goes back because the dancing was so good, like, she was crushing it. That it was like, oh, that extra, you know, 15, 20 seconds or whatever would have been great to see more dance, but at the same time, it was just such an epic moment. They were so. It was so Smart. Because I did love seeing a lot of the wicked elements. I love seeing the pros put a lot of the actual wicked elements into their dances. You know, Val and Alex did the whole book choreography from the. What is this feeling like that was in their dance. And you do that big act one ending from the. From the play, and you get Elaine up there. She's defying gravity. She's. I mean, it was incredible. I. I know. We were just saying, like, everyone fights and says, oh, this person deserved a 10. This person. I think. I think she deserved a 10.

[Fran]

At least one 10, just for the moment. Like, John should have just gave her a 10 just because of how it was incredible, you know, in depth. It was.

[Rhianne]

Yeah. And I thought the whole routine was. She nailed it.

[Fran]

She's. She's so good. Yeah. You know, it's so inspiring, actually, to see her up there. They were so proud of themselves. Love to see that. Jordan and Ezra got tens so well deserved. I love them. They are so high up there on the list for me, for people. I really want to make it and win. The finger hold was so funny. They incorporated the Ariana and Cynthia finger hold in their dance, which was hilarious that they did that, like, very, very chronically online.

[Rhianne]

Yeah.

[Fran]

You know, but so perfect. And they got tens. Ezra dropped to the floor. He was shot. I think it was his first.

[Rhianne]

And they got bleeped.

[Fran]

His first time getting tens ever as a pro. So that was really cool moment for him. You know, Andy, he. I will say a little bit more this week. You know what I mean?

[Rhianne]

Yeah.

[Fran]

He put in a little bit more this week. Scott and Riley were sent home. People were messaging, how pissed are you that Andy didn't go home instead of Scott and Riley. Yeah. I gotta be honest. Not pissed. Do I think, you know, if Andy really starts making it even further, we got a big problem on our hands. Absolutely. I went on this rant already. Scott and Riley just didn't have the pizzazz this season.

[Rhianne]

Yeah.

[Fran]

In my personal opinion, they were kind of forgettable at times.

[Rhianne]

Yeah. I think that that was pretty obvious in my view. Like, once we got to the end of the episode, in my mind, I was like, scott's going home. Like, I just thought. And yes, I do think going first sometimes not great. But I also think that unfortunately their performances.

[Fran]

Were.

[Rhianne]

They are good. I don't like to use words. It's just kind of boring. And I do think that that then makes it forgettable. And then you're like, oh, shoot. And I don't know. I. They clearly, you know, really liked working with each other, Scott and Riley, but I just don't know in the grand scheme of things if it was the right PA for her. She does seem to thrive more with the younger partner. As far as just, like, the choreography goes and all those things. I don't know if that is a factor in the mix here, but I felt like it was pretty obvious that it was going to be Scott because everyone just loves Andy. And you can see online still, everybody is loving Andy. Now, look, it is going to become a problem. I'm not ready to be like, ah. I'm so angry that Andy. Not after this one, that Andy's still here, and. And it's fine. Like, he is entertaining. There's the element of fun and entertainment that he is bringing, which, you know, Emma crushes as well with the dances that are fun to watch and memorable. Like, I kind of put. Like, I kind of put Jen in that category too, of just like, she is. She's doing great and she's getting better. But, you know, maybe falls a little bit on the pro, too, because I think he's getting more criticism that their dances have kind of been forgettable, too. And I think you can even tell that maybe she's feeling that way in the package, being like, I want harder choreography, you know, like, give me something crazy. And they're still not quite, quite getting it. And it does hurt, I think, too, that, like, on a night where there's so many jazz and contemporary that, like, pop, they get a foxtrot, and it's like, okay, well, it's news. Like, it's like, no. You know, you're just kind of like, oh, okay. But then there's so many people who date, take a different dance and then make it explode. I mean, Danielle. Danielle's Argentine tango. Phenomenal. Really fat. I was so happy for her. But here's the problem, because, like, let's say. Let's. Let's play, like, the what happens in the future game. If next week, the way things are going next week, maybe it's Jen and Andy's still around after that. It's like, ooh, if Andy's staying over Elaine or Danielle or Dylan, like, it's gonna be like, I. That we guys, we gotta, like, let's be real here. I'm hoping that we do get to a certain point that everyone's like, oh, my God, we got Andy to, like, week seven week. Like, who? We never would have thought this would happen now, like, his time has come to an.

[Fran]

I honestly, I think andy's tired.

[Rhianne]

Yeah. 100%.

[Fran]

I think he's got to be exhausted.

[Rhianne]

I'm sure he. I'm sure he is. But, yeah, like, if we're. If we're gonna have a problem, if he does make it far enough, where then the Andy fans are going, like, we can get him to win this thing, and then we're gonna be like, guys, like, come on.

[Fran]

Yeah, I totally agree with that. I think you're right about Jen as well. I do think Jan is getting. It almost seems like the criticism is more towards him than Jen.

[Rhianne]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Fran]

But I think the judges. They can't continue to tell him. You know what I'm saying? And then it's like, okay, well, this is just landing on the pro the whole time.

[Rhianne]

It's such an adjustment. It's his first year.

[Fran]

It's his first year. And it's kind of tough for her to be on the same season as Whitney right now, because Whitney is so phenomenal that I'm sure it's probably hard for her right now to have Whitney with Mark, who is the pro of all pros, and then you get the new guy, and a lot of the criticism is headed towards his way of. We need new choreography. So that's gotta be hard for her. She's trying so hard. It was sad to see her be like, am I a bad dancer? Like, no. You know what I'm saying? Like, there are actual band. Bad dancers. She's not one of them.

[Rhianne]

No, she's not. She is a good dancer.

[Fran]

Yeah. It's just been a little bit forgettable.

[Rhianne]

Yeah.

[Fran]

Like you said. And, yeah. If Andy is starting to beat out Elaine, Danielle, all those people, we have a big problem on our hands. If he makes it one more week, I don't really think it's that big of a problem. He's entertaining, and this week, I certainly didn't think it was a problem. I.

[Rhianne]

It was a fun dance, and. Yeah. It's just. He's getting better, and I think it was hard. Like, they gave, and I. And Emma did exactly what I. She made it a big ensemble number. There's extra dancers. It's one short day in the Emerald City. It's a whole fun moment.

[Fran]

Mm.

[Rhianne]

And people are gonna love that. So.

[Fran]

Right. So it's just getting almost about that time where it's gonna get. Start getting real competitive, and we're gonna start seeing people go home that we don't want to see go home or don't deserve to go home.

[Rhianne]

Yeah. Because I really do think that, like, I Mean, Alex, I kind of even. Sometimes her scores don't show it, but I think she's better. Better than.

[Fran]

A lot of her scores have been 1,000%. I mean, the one that she did Disney week, Maleficent, I thought was fucking incredible. And I thought that she was totally underscored for that.

[Rhianne]

I think she's been mis. Scored a little bit for sure. So, like, in my mind, I see like, Alex, Robert, Whitney as my. Like, probably Jordan too now as like top tier. And then Elaine, Dylan, Danielle. Danielle kind of right there. And then, like, then you get. Now we have Jen and Andy where it's like, Andy may. May make it.

[Fran]

I think he passed that.

[Rhianne]

I love, you know, Dylan. I appreciate Dylan's effort in all his dances. Like, that is a man that is not afraid to move his hips. And I did laugh at the critique from the judges of, like, you know, you're moving your hips, sometimes it gets a little crazy.

[Fran]

Yeah. He's not shy of moving his hips.

[Rhianne]

Yeah.

[Fran]

It's everything else that needs to move with him.

[Rhianne]

Yeah. Right, right, right. But he is. I thought that was like, a great rubber too. So.

[Fran]

Yeah. I mean, it was.

[Rhianne]

It was a fun night. And I do think that that makes sense. I know probably people are gonna expect us to be, like, outraged that Andy, from what we've been saying.

[Fran]

Right.

[Rhianne]

And I'm like, this one, this one. I can'.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Rhianne]

Like, I can't say that.

[Fran]

What?

[Rhianne]

I will feel that way once. I will. If. If he is staying over, like, far and beyond. More entertaining and better pairings.

[Fran]

1,000%. He's on the edge right now.

[Rhianne]

Yeah.

[Fran]

It's like. Right. We're gonna. We're gonna rein it in this week.

[Rhianne]

Right. But I'm afraid it's like, gonna come down to, like, him and Danielle and I'm gonna lose it because I think Danielle has been get like, so much better and is so good that I was so impressed.

[Fran]

Danielle also does have a strong F of people.

[Rhianne]

For sure. For sure.

[Fran]

So we'll see. It's gonna come. The fan bases are going to come into play.

[Rhianne]

I was Andy.

[Fran]

I also think that some people might be banning against Whitney to try to get her off the show.

[Rhianne]

Yeah.

[Fran]

Which I think is really just.

[Rhianne]

I don't like that.

[Fran]

Spiteful for no reason. Yeah. In my opinion. Yep. I think people are just so fucking mad at how good her. Her and Mark are and they need to get over it. Just let it be.

[Rhianne]

It's just like she deserves to make it to the end.

[Fran]

Right.

[Rhianne]

You know, if you don't want to vote for her to win. Fine. But like, she should be in the finale. That's like a no brainer.

[Fran]

Absolutely.

[Rhianne]

And that's just how the show goes. I do think we've, you know, we're repeating ourselves, but that's what the show's about. I'm not here to watch bad dances from nice people.

[Fran]

I think that it gets confusing because people are like, well, the premise of the show is for people to go on with no dance experience and learn. At the end of the day, I want to be entertained. So do I enjoy watching Whitney put on a performance of a lifetime? Yes.

[Rhianne]

Right.

[Fran]

I do.

[Rhianne]

And also, it's just like every season since the beginning have had people that has had some sort of dance experience.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Rhianne]

Or some dance background. I mean, we've had.

[Fran]

Dance is very popular.

[Rhianne]

Yeah, we've. And you have performers, like stars. These guys are actors, musicians, performers brought like they have some sort of dance experience. You've had plenty of people that have been like boy bands and all these things. Like, they've been dancers. Yeah.

[Fran]

They have had people choreograph them.

[Rhianne]

Like, I think back to like og, like old, old, old. I mean, I believe Drew Lachey won the show and like not a, you know, professional dancer, but in a boy band where he had to dance and had to learn dances.

[Fran]

Right. Jojo Siwa was on. She was on a show called Dance Moms.

[Rhianne]

Yeah.

[Fran]

Charlie d' Amelio got famous from TikTok for dancing.

[Rhianne]

Yeah. Like, you know, and everybody loved rooting for Charlie. Yeah.

[Fran]

It's just.

[Rhianne]

Yeah, it's weird. It's just like that.

[Fran]

You know what it is? A lot of people don't like confidence. And Whitney has a lot of confidence. Yeah. And I love it. I love to see somebody confident in themselves like that. And she puts it on when she gets out there. She has the facial expressions like, yeah, I know I'm damn good and good for her. You know, but people, they don't like that.

[Rhianne]

And.

[Fran]

You know, that's, that's their own. Yeah, whatever.

[Rhianne]

I know. I saw people being like mad that they play to the camera sometimes. And I'm like, they're performing.

[Fran]

They're performing for the play to the camera.

[Rhianne]

They're like, Whitney and Mark are always looking at the camera. Yeah.

[Fran]

What are they supposed to do?

[Rhianne]

They're on tv as they should.

[Fran]

They're playing.

[Noah]

People voting. Are at home.

[Fran]

Exactly. So people are mad at confidence. They're. They're not comfortable with it. And that's a whole other thing. But she's doing great.

[Rhianne]

Yep.

[Fran]

So it is.

[Rhianne]

I love that Connor painted himself green.

[Fran]

Yeah, he's really. He. You know what? He. He should, though.

[Rhianne]

Yeah, absolutely.

[Fran]

He should be painting himself green and getting out there.

[Noah]

Yep.

[Rhianne]

So.

[Fran]

All right, that wraps up the Dancing with the Stars conversation. No other topics today because we're recording a little bit of in advance, but we do have a great interview with Casey and Tom and a great game of trivia. So let's head right into it.

[Rhianne]

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[Fran]

All right, everyone. We are here with two very special guests. We are joined by Casey and Tom from Love Island. They're stopping in the studio. They've had a big New York City weekend and they decided to come on by. So how are we feeling?

[Tom]

Very good.

[Casey]

Yeah, I'm great. Feeling good. A bit hungover. Yeah. Because I've been going out quite hard.

[Fran]

Did you go out last night too, on Sunday?

[Casey]

No, actually, that was our first night. We. We stayed in.

[Fran]

It's just like the lingering from Saturday. Yeah, I feel like.

[Rhianne]

Yeah, I'll say. Sometimes the most fun is Sunday, I think, going out, really.

[Tom]

Oh, really?

[Casey]

Because of the football?

[Rhianne]

Because.

[Casey]

Yeah.

[Fran]

I am so not a Sunday going out.

[Rhianne]

She is not at all.

[Fran]

Never been, never will be.

[Rhianne]

Maybe not necessarily as much as at, like later at night, but during the day. Like, I. That's the best, I think, for all the. For all the.

[Casey]

It did look busy when we were walking around.

[Fran]

That's probably it. I feel like going out on Friday is great if you're gonna do one night because then you have Saturday and Sunday to recover, you know.

[Rhianne]

But when you're in New York, you gotta. You gotta try everything. Right.

[Tom]

100.

[Casey]

I didn't realize how, like, lively it was. Like, everyone goes out. Everyone loves it.

[Amelia]

Yeah.

[Tom]

It's like London, though. Everyone's always out.

[Casey]

Yeah, true.

[Rhianne]

Have you guys had New York weekends before or was this like Your full, proper New York weekend.

[Tom]

I came last Christmas with my fiance.

[Fran]

Congratulations.

[Rhianne]

Thank you.

[Fran]

Very exciting.

[Noah]

Thank you.

[Tom]

Yeah.

[Casey]

Yeah, it sounds weird, I know.

[Tom]

It's just crazy.

[Fran]

It's exciting.

[Tom]

Yeah. Really exciting. So I came with her family last Christmas and it was like snowing in Central park and it was like, unreal. And then this is my second time.

[Casey]

I literally came this time last year for Halloween because I ran the marathon in New York last year, but no marathon this year. No, not this year.

[Rhianne]

Did you do.

[Casey]

I did the Sydney one a couple of months ago.

[Fran]

Okay. Okay.

[Casey]

I haven't been back since before that. I went straight from Sydney to Fiji and then straight from Fiji to la. So I've been living out of suitcase for like two.

[Rhianne]

So you haven't been home at all?

[Casey]

No.

[Rhianne]

Finally today, since you left for Love.

[Fran]

Island, he's got to keep going on Love island until he comes home.

[Tom]

Yeah.

[Rhianne]

Well, I don't believe you.

[Fran]

Yeah, I don't believe you.

[Rhianne]

And same.

[Fran]

Casey, the last time that we talked to you, we were talking to you.

[Rhianne]

Over the screen with Gabby.

[Fran]

With Gabby. Didn't pan out. Can you tell us a little bit about that?

[Casey]

Yeah. To be honest, there's not much to it. Like, we tried to make it work after the show. It wasn't working. We tried to give it a good go and just decided to go our separate ways.

[Rhianne]

Yeah.

[Casey]

Well, what was it working? Oh, God, I don't know. I think. I think everyone says this, but it's. It's so different being in there. Like in the. When you come out and we came out and we tried to integrate into each other's lives and like our day to day lives and it just. It just. It just was different. It just felt different on the outside to what it was like in. On the inside, which is fine. Like, there was no bad blood there. It wasn't like anyone cheated or anything like that. It just. It just didn't work out.

[Rhianne]

Yeah.

[Fran]

You guys, you feel like you're a different lifestyle, so.

[Casey]

Yeah. Yeah, I think so.

[Rhianne]

Yeah.

[Fran]

Right.

[Rhianne]

It's like you're forced to live the same lifestyle in the villa.

[Casey]

Yeah.

[Rhianne]

You get back to your. Your real life, Tom. How did you find it? Like, after leaving the villain, Obviously you and Molly have made it work.

[Tom]

Yeah.

[Rhianne]

So what would what goes into make we see how it doesn't work. What goes into making it work?

[Tom]

I don't know. I just think, like, when you, like, she's my person. I mean, she's like my best friend. Like, we do everything together and we didn't really spend much time away from each other. Like when we came out, so we were just together all the time. And yeah, we've just gone from strength to strength and then now we're engaged. So, yeah, things just keep getting better and better.

[Fran]

Yeah, that's amazing.

[Rhianne]

But, yeah, maybe, you know, one more show, you know, that it could be what life.

[Fran]

Honestly, I know straight up, you can't, like, you have to put that to it.

[Casey]

You know what?

[Rhianne]

We'll see when Love Island Australia calls. And if we don't see you, well.

[Fran]

I think people got excited to see you come back, but then on the other side of it, we're like, hi, me, Casey again.

[Casey]

Right.

[Fran]

You know, so Love Island Games was your fourth.

[Casey]

Yeah.

[Fran]

Time on the show.

[Casey]

Yeah.

[Rhianne]

That was a good one.

[Fran]

Yeah. When you got that call, were you hesitant at all or you're like, yeah, no, I'm gonna go back.

[Casey]

Yeah. If I'm completely honest, like, if it was the right amount of money to go back on, I would have done it. So it wasn't about money, Tops. Yeah. So it wasn't anything other than the honesty, is there? If being completely honest, Like, I wouldn't have done it if I was going back on for free sort of thing. And it was more of a love that answer.

[Fran]

I was getting paid. So I'm going back on.

[Casey]

It was like, my job is now Love Island. Like, yeah, it's like a full time job.

[Tom]

But you were saying it was so different to all like.

[Casey]

Yeah, totally. Yeah.

[Rhianne]

The other shows you've all filmed in.

[Casey]

The same place in South Africa, in Cape Town. Yeah.

[Rhianne]

Okay. And then obviously this one, you're in Fiji.

[Casey]

Yeah.

[Rhianne]

So how different was that?

[Casey]

The villa was cooler.

[Rhianne]

Cooler for games?

[Casey]

Yeah, yeah, it was bigger. Cooler. There was like a sauna.

[Tom]

Oh, my God.

[Casey]

And there was like a speakeasy. You know what speakeasy is? Yeah, it's like a backstreet bar. So it was like in the villa. Yeah, yeah. It was crazy.

[Fran]

They just built that this season.

[Rhianne]

Yeah, yeah.

[Fran]

Season six, I think.

[Rhianne]

Yeah.

[Fran]

For season was able to pay for season seven, how big it got.

[Casey]

But yeah, I preferred the villa in Fiji for sure. But I feel like Cape Town villa I'm loyal to and that's like my home. That's like my second home.

[Noah]

Right.

[Fran]

Are you gonna miss it because you're going back?

[Casey]

Yeah.

[Tom]

Is it in South Africa?

[Casey]

Yeah. I think you can actually book it out on like, Airbnb or, like, booking.

[Tom]

I've seen it on Tick Tock. It doesn't look the same. So I wouldn't want to do that.

[Casey]

So maybe we might have to go back there just to.

[Rhianne]

Yeah. Because they probably, like, leave the bare bones of it.

[Tom]

I think so.

[Casey]

Yeah.

[Rhianne]

Like, all the fun stuff is taken out. Like, they're not leaving all the expensive.

[Fran]

Right.

[Casey]

Whereas the villa in Fiji, they build literally from scratch.

[Rhianne]

Yeah.

[Fran]

Yeah, they take it down. Yeah.

[Rhianne]

We actually have been in the villa last year after season six.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Rhianne]

We went and did after sun and toured, like, the villa and everything. And that was awesome.

[Fran]

Yeah, it was really cool. I just.

[Rhianne]

You're surprised by how small it is, though.

[Fran]

I didn't have that reaction.

[Rhianne]

Oh, I did.

[Fran]

She keeps saying. I didn't have that reaction to it.

[Casey]

I thought it looked bigger on tv.

[Rhianne]

Yes.

[Fran]

I thought it looked exactly how it looked on TV to me in real.

[Rhianne]

Life, walking around it. I thought, like. Because when you watch the show, you think, oh, these. These people are talking over here. These people are talking over here. They're miles away from each. They can't hear each other. They're miles away from each other. Like, you're watching it on tv, they seem so far, but when you're there, I'm like, so wait, they're right there. How they could hear everything I'm saying. Like, it feels. It's much more. It's much more intimate than you realize.

[Casey]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Rhianne]

That there's, like, way more. Less areas to.

[Casey]

To go to, especially the bedroom. Like, you're all literally, like, next to each other.

[Fran]

Well, that's all very close.

[Casey]

Yeah.

[Fran]

Now, you said you got paid for Love Island Games, but you said you're not going on again. But now what if they offer more money for you to go back on again?

[Casey]

They wouldn't.

[Fran]

We're capped out of money for him.

[Casey]

Yeah. No, with the All Stars, it's like a. It's like a set sort of thing. So no one goes more than other people.

[Fran]

Right. Yeah.

[Casey]

Just to, like, make it as fair as possible. So, yeah, I. I wouldn't do again, but I feel like with the uk. Yeah, yeah, obviously, I love it. I've been full time.

[Noah]

Yeah.

[Casey]

With the UK one, I feel like I've done it three times. I won the last one. I feel like I've completed enough. I can't go back.

[Rhianne]

Yeah, no, that's fair.

[Tom]

Like, we need to find him a wife. Yeah, that's what we need.

[Casey]

Yeah. I think she might be in New York as well. I met so many nice girls this weekend.

[Fran]

Were you like, oh, my God, I need to be here?

[Casey]

Yeah.

[Fran]

Yeah. And Tom, were you like, Enough.

[Casey]

Yeah. No.

[Tom]

But then when we were coming, he was like, damn, I didn't find my wife. Yeah, there's still time.

[Rhianne]

Yeah, there is.

[Casey]

Yeah.

[Rhianne]

Maybe you didn't.

[Noah]

You didn't.

[Fran]

Yeah, you don't know.

[Rhianne]

Maybe you did.

[Casey]

I got some numbers.

[Rhianne]

Well, we had a. I was saying before we started, we had like such a nice weekend here too. I saw on, on Social, you guys, like, I'm like, oh, they're doing the rooftop parties. They're doing everything. Like, this is like the perfect New York fall weekend where makes you fall in love.

[Casey]

We met Bradley Cooper.

[Tom]

Oh, yeah.

[Fran]

Yes.

[Rhianne]

We wanted to ask about this. I heard that. We saw the video.

[Casey]

Oh, did you?

[Rhianne]

Yes.

[Casey]

Crazy.

[Rhianne]

It, like came up in my for you page, honestly. And it was like a random account that wasn't even like your account was.

[Casey]

Some other account posted like a tick tock about it.

[Rhianne]

Yeah, that was like, yeah, that, that and Bradley Cooper watched the show.

[Casey]

Yeah. So we were walking down the street and I said, you, like, freaked out. I said to Tom, that's Bradley Coop. He was like, yeah, all right. Well, I just kind of was like, no, no, that's Bradley Cooper. I was get a picture with him. Like, I love Bradley Cooper.

[Fran]

You're in New York.

[Casey]

Yeah, like, why not? And last time I was here, I met Ryan Reynolds. So I was like, this is like, sick. Like, two of the greatest actors ever. Like, we need to do this. So I've run back and be like, bradley, really sorry, could I get a picture? He was like, yeah, of course. He was with his daughter. And I was waiting for Tom to come over, took it. And I was like, really big fan from London. He was like, ah, lovely to meet you. And then he went, wait, Love Island. He was like, I loved you on the show.

[Fran]

Oh, my God.

[Casey]

He was like, you won it. I was like, yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, oh, my God.

[Tom]

His eyes, like, lit up.

[Casey]

I was like, nice to meet you. I was like, yeah. And Tom won the season before.

[Tom]

He was like, he didn't have a clue. I was like, yeah, whatever.

[Unknown Rapper 1]

Yeah.

[Casey]

But he was like, I absolutely love you. Like, you're great. You're jokes. I was like, oh, thanks.

[Rhianne]

Oh, my God, that's so funny.

[Fran]

How did you initially approach him? Like, did you ask for a picture?

[Tom]

He just literally, like, run up, there's no hesitation.

[Fran]

But what did you say before you asked for a picture? Or did you just say, can I get a picture?

[Casey]

I just said, hi, mate, big fan. Do you mind if we get a picnic?

[Rhianne]

I think that's, I mean, One. It's so funny because that's brave, you know, because, like, it is for us.

[Fran]

I think if we saw Bradley Cooper, we wouldn't. I don't know if I'd go up to him really. Like, I don't know if I would be like, Bradley Cooper. Can I catch everything?

[Rhianne]

I have seen Bradley Cooper.

[Fran]

Have you gone up to him and asked for a picture? No, Exactly.

[Casey]

And then I was like, oh, you from here? He was like, I literally there and I pointed to the building. Yeah, yeah.

[Fran]

But then I would just be so nervous that he would be like, like, no.

[Casey]

But I didn't want to take up his time. So we sort of was like, nice bit. But then like, when he said about Love island, then we started chatting to him and he was actually lovely. He was really such a nice bloke.

[Rhianne]

We were. We were joking about it before because I would. It was like, oh, Bradley Cooper watching Love Island. I was like, bradley Cooper dates Gigi Hadid. And I bet Gigi Hadid watches Love Island. You know, like, it's like every. Every feel like every young person watches it.

[Fran]

Has that been the craziest celebrity interaction that's watched Love island or have you ever.

[Casey]

100%. Yeah, yeah. We. We know of, like, people and a listers that watch it, but haven't met them. Like, we know, like, Margot Robbie's like a huge fan, but never bumped into her.

[Fran]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Casey]

Annoying.

[Rhianne]

Yeah.

[Tom]

I really met any, like, mad people who watch.

[Casey]

No. Yeah.

[Fran]

Any DMS from people?

[Casey]

Jason Derulo, Jason Driller, DM me last night, the night before that was something wrong. That was a cliff of me on the All Stars. Because he came in the villa and performed.

[Rhianne]

Yes.

[Casey]

And then I was like, oh, my God, it's Jason Derulo. And like screamed and it got like.

[Tom]

I love Jason Viral.

[Rhianne]

Yeah.

[Casey]

And then he was like, we should recreate this. He was like, I'm in the. I'm coming to the O2 soon or something.

[Rhianne]

He loves TikTok. Does it?

[Casey]

Yes.

[Rhianne]

So I bet you they're all over there. Like, we gotta get tick tock. Like, this makes sense to do something on TikTok. I feel like he's always doing stuff.

[Noah]

Yeah.

[Fran]

I feel like year, like a couple years ago though, it was like Jason. It was like resurgence. Like everyone was.

[Rhianne]

Yeah, I'm sure he's still doing it though. But yeah, there I. I will say it is one of the shows that I think even when we have guests come in and they're promoting, you know, their. Their movie, their TV show, whatever and if we ask them, like, oh, you guys watch reality TV or whatever, they're always say, love Island.

[Casey]

Yeah.

[Rhianne]

And most Americans. And it's changed now because the last couple seasons of us have been so huge.

[Tom]

Yeah, they've been huge.

[Casey]

But they love the uk.

[Rhianne]

Love the uk.

[Fran]

Like, that's where we started.

[Rhianne]

And people think they, like, turn. They're like, UK only, though.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Casey]

Like, me and Tom walking around New York. We've been recognized here more than we would walking around London.

[Rhianne]

Yeah.

[Fran]

Really?

[Rhianne]

I'm not surprised by that at all.

[Fran]

But it's so big in London too, though.

[Casey]

It is, but they're more like.

[Fran]

Yeah, it's normal to see people are more friendly here.

[Casey]

I. Yeah, well, I saw people are so friendly here. We've loved it.

[Tom]

Whereas London is.

[Casey]

Yeah. And we've had a couple. We've had a couple of crazy fan interactions here this weekend.

[Fran]

What was the craziest?

[Casey]

Oh, my God. That was this guy.

[Tom]

Oh, bless them. They were so nice.

[Casey]

No, they were lovely. Yeah. Like, if you're listening. But it was crazy. Like, we were on Brooklyn Bridge and we were just posting on our Snapchats and stuff, just like, openly. And we see these two girls and they're like, oh, like, Casey, Tom, lovely to meet you. Can we get a picture? Chatted to them for a bit. We're like, oh, you're walking over Brooklyn Bridge. They're like, no, we've had your Snapchat notifications on the whole day and we were coming to find you. I was like, oh, my God. Like, yeah. Is that a bit dangerous?

[Rhianne]

Yeah, it is. You don't realize that people do that until it happens. And you're like, oh, the people actually do this.

[Tom]

Yeah, but normally I always post when I've been somewhere. I never post.

[Fran]

And part of you in life.

[Rhianne]

Yeah.

[Fran]

This is really cool. You're like, oh, my God, I made it. This is so cool. And then the other part of you is like, this is a little dangerous. Yeah, yeah. It's a. It's a little mixed. But they're always very know.

[Tom]

Yeah, they're really nice.

[Casey]

Every person we met has been so nice.

[Fran]

Yeah, I saw. This was my experience, right? Like, going to London. I saw Molly Mae in a Zara and I was like, oh, my God.

[Casey]

What are the chances, right?

[Fran]

Like, what are the chances? But nobody was bothering her. Nobody was talking to her or anything. So I feel like that's like kind of what you're saying here.

[Tom]

Like when you're in London, London's like that. I feel like the More you go up north, people probably interact with you more. I feel like London, they're not that bothered, are they?

[Casey]

No. Because there's so many tourists in London, especially like central London. So.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Rhianne]

It's kind of the same thing with New York, though. It's that I think a lot of even just New Yorkers and Londoners are probably the same. Or it's like they see famous people and they're like, oh, we just either leave them alone. Or it's like with U. S. Reality stars, if we saw them on the street, we'd be like, oh, that's so and so from this show.

[Fran]

But anyone from UK when you guys.

[Rhianne]

Are here, it's like, holy shit. They're ever here.

[Casey]

Because it's not normal for them. Them to see us. Oh, my God. Yeah.

[Tom]

People have just been like, what are you two doing in New York?

[Fran]

I felt the same. Isn't that a funny question? When they're like, what are you doing here? And you're like, why travel too?

[Casey]

I think every single person said that to us. What you doing last holiday last weekend?

[Fran]

Yeah. Are you wanting to do more New York weekends now that you spent this year?

[Tom]

He wants to move here.

[Noah]

I think.

[Casey]

I'd love to see.

[Rhianne]

There you go. I think this is, you know, we have some friends that are like, you think, you know, you haven't found your person in New York, but I feel like maybe, maybe London is the place you need to go. Maybe it's the opposite for you. You gotta come. You gotta come here.

[Fran]

It's the opposite for you.

[Rhianne]

Yeah.

[Fran]

You know, we've been telling some of our girlfriends to head to London and go find a guy there.

[Casey]

Yeah.

[Fran]

Yeah. And now you're like, I need to come here.

[Casey]

Yeah. 100%.

[Fran]

Yeah. What about LA? Because you came from there first.

[Casey]

I wasn't massive fan of la. Like, I liked it and I liked. Liked having a week there, but I couldn't live there. I think everything. Everything's so spaced out. And I love walking everywhere. You can't walk anywhere in la. Like, oh, really? So much traffic.

[Rhianne]

No, you can't walk anywhere. You have to literally drive everywhere.

[Casey]

And I think the girls are so much better in New York.

[Fran]

I feel like this podcast has just become like, how do we find Casey a girlfriend? It's like we're just, like, talking it through.

[Tom]

Like, I've tried everything, but, yeah, just. You guys know her friends are all, like, married, all with kids, right?

[Casey]

Yeah. Text me the day before Tom came out. Being like, hate to do this because my Fiance is coming to join you, but the Victoria's Secret fashion show is happening tonight, so there'll be a lot of models out, so you should go. Go and try and find one of them.

[Fran]

Pick up a Victoria's Secret model.

[Rhianne]

You can bring Tom, put a blindfold on for you.

[Casey]

Maybe you should go.

[Rhianne]

No, that is. That's funny. I. You guys. So you were here with Kendall, and I feel like Kendall knows everybody. Take you into everything. Like, I'm sure. I know Kendall doesn't even live in New York, but I'm sure he probably showed you guys a great time.

[Casey]

Yeah. We met with Kayla, who's from New York as well, so we were hanging out with her for a little bit, but Kendall knew everyone. Yeah, yeah. Any restaurant we went into, he's like, hey, what's going on?

[Rhianne]

Yeah, that's.

[Fran]

Doesn't surprise me. Kendall's social media. I'm like, does he ever get tired? Oh, my God. Like, do these people ever just, like, sit on the couch and not do anything?

[Tom]

This guy has the maddest social battery I've ever seen in my life.

[Casey]

It's crazy.

[Rhianne]

Did you know you guys were both gonna go on Love island games?

[Noah]

Yeah.

[Casey]

Yeah, yeah. We went into Ibiza together a couple of months before the show, and I was like, are you going on? He was like, I think so. I was like, okay, let's do it.

[Rhianne]

Yeah.

[Fran]

So there was a little.

[Casey]

Yeah.

[Fran]

Beforehand.

[Casey]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Rhianne]

Have you guys gotten to hang? Like, when you were in la, did the cast hang out all together a little or.

[Casey]

Yeah, bit. They were always hanging out together. All the cast, they were, like, going out clubbing, like, every single night together, like, literally everyone. I think me and Kendall were, like, the only ones who didn't really get involved as much. Like, we just didn't. I just didn't get invited.

[Fran]

I was say, did they not get invited?

[Rhianne]

They were like, we got. Those two are going to make us.

[Fran]

Do tik toks the whole time. Do that Maui Wowie Tik tok. For the fifth time.

[Casey]

I still haven't done it.

[Fran]

I'm shocked because if you were with Kendall all weekend, I mean, I've seen him do it. I feel like six times already. We'd sit down. You gotta go do it on the street before you leave.

[Casey]

We've seen people, like, in New York just, like, hanging.

[Fran]

Are you afraid you can't do it?

[Casey]

No, I can.

[Fran]

Yeah, of course I can do it.

[Tom]

I promise.

[Rhianne]

Yeah, I can do it. I can do it. Okay. Tom, I want to ask you about the Proposal.

[Tom]

Go for it.

[Rhianne]

Because it was absolutely gorgeous. I know everyone was freaking out. I mean, location, ring, everything. Stunning. What was your planning process like, and were you able to keep it a secret or did she have an idea it was coming?

[Tom]

Notice I kept it fully secret. And normally she knows something before I've even done it. Like, she's like that. But no, I've been in the planning for, like, a good six, seven months. Had the ring, kept it actually. Her best friend's house, the ring. So I didn't have it at hours just because I thought she might, like, rummage through stuff and you never know.

[Rhianne]

Yeah, smart.

[Tom]

And then I had, like, about 12 people in a WhatsApp group in Dubai, like, trying to organize stuff and everything. She was going for her hair. I was getting people to the hotel to organize stuff. And, yeah, I think I smashed it. So I was proud of my. I was gonna say I. Pat on the back.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Tom]

But no, thankfully she. She didn't find out anything or kept it top secret.

[Rhianne]

Wow, that's amazing. So she really had no idea?

[Tom]

No idea.

[Fran]

You definitely crushed it. And I think, you know, everyone was so excited to be able to see a glimpse of it online.

[Tom]

For sure.

[Rhianne]

Yeah. The ring was, like, really cool and unique. Did you do that yourself or you have some help?

[Tom]

I welded it.

[Rhianne]

Yep, yep, yep.

[Tom]

No. So obviously I was speaking to her best friend a lot, and I was like, come on, what. What does she like? So she'd like. Obviously girls speak about that stuff. Yeah, best friends, of course. So I had an inkling, but then I put a twist on the ring, like. But I kind of liked as well. And what I. I thought she might like. So, yeah, there was a bit of me in there as well, but I knew what she wanted, so.

[Rhianne]

Yeah.

[Tom]

And then I had to get the ring size and then all that. But no, it was. Everything just went so perfectly. So I was really happy.

[Rhianne]

That's amazing. How's wedding planning started?

[Tom]

I think wedding planning started when I came out the villa with, you know.

[Noah]

What girls are like.

[Tom]

Yeah. Do you know what I mean? But no, it started. We're obviously trying to sell our house and move at the minute as well. So we've got that and the wedding. So it's a lot, but it's all good stuff. So. But yeah, we're definitely thinking abroad somewhere, I think.

[Fran]

Oh, that's very exciting. I was gonna ask that, but then you never know. You know what I mean? You don't want to, like, pry and be like, oh, where is it gonna be? Yeah, that's very cool.

[Tom]

Yeah, we've seen a few different spots.

[Rhianne]

And you propose in Dubai. Do you guys, you guys love going?

[Tom]

That's my favorite place in the world. Have you ever been?

[Rhianne]

No, no. I, I mean, I've been to the airport.

[Tom]

Oh, yeah.

[Rhianne]

I had a connecting flight. Did not leave the airport. No, no. I went to Cape Town on my honeymoon. So we flew to Dubai and then Dubai, Cape Town. But I've had a bunch of friends now stop in Dubai on their, on their. You know, honeymoons are big trips, but it's. I feel like we don't know a lot of people that go to Dubai often, but it seems like in the uk, especially for young people, it's really a popular spot. What's, what's so, what's so great about it?

[Tom]

I think just like number one for me is safety. Like, like Molly could be walking the street at 12 at night and she's, she's fine. Whereas in the UK, it's the complete opposite. There's just like, there's some. I should get commission for selling flights.

[Fran]

Clean.

[Tom]

It's just clean. But you love it as well.

[Casey]

Yeah, it's, it's so great. I mean the weather is unbelievable. Like, the restaurants are so nice, the hotels are so nice, the beaches, the beach clubs.

[Tom]

Yeah, I could, I can't fault it.

[Casey]

Yeah.

[Tom]

There's anything wrong with it. You need to go. Definitely.

[Rhianne]

Yeah. Because I feel like especially. I don't know if it's like even more so a Love island thing too, but I feel like especially after watching a season of Love island uk, you get to meet all these people and then the season ends and you follow them all on social media and like, next thing you know that everyone's on different trips to Dubai.

[Fran]

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[Tom]

So I was playing football. So you guys play soccer?

[Fran]

Soccer, yeah, yeah.

[Tom]

And I still play that now as well.

[Casey]

Yeah, I was in sales. I worked in recruitment. And then.

[Rhianne]

What a switch. Yeah, yeah, what a switch.

[Casey]

And then I. I was just in a bar in London, just got approached by a girl.

[Rhianne]

Really?

[Casey]

Yeah. Chatting her up a little bit. And then the next day she was like, can we jump on a call about this dating show? I was like scouting you. Yeah.

[Rhianne]

Wow, that's so interesting. I feel like I've never heard about an in person scout. Yeah, I feel it's there. Oh, people are always like, oh, I got a dm.

[Tom]

They do that a lot, right?

[Casey]

Yeah.

[Rhianne]

Really?

[Casey]

Yeah, they've got bars.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Casey]

In like the hot spots of like people in their like 20s.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Rhianne]

Right, right, right.

[Casey]

And they'll go and it. I think that's the best thing to do because like on an interview or dm, like you don't know what they're like or you don't know how they're trying to be someone else or.

[Fran]

Right. So she was talking to you and he.

[Casey]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Rhianne]

That is. What did. Was yours a dm?

[Tom]

Mine was a dm. Yeah, yeah, yeah. When I remember when I first met Kiss, like in the villa, I didn't really like him too. I couldn't really.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Tom]

I just thought he was a bit irritating. But now he's my best friend.

[Fran]

Yeah, yeah. It's funny how that works out. How did you feel about Tom?

[Tom]

He's probably in love with me or something.

[Casey]

I just thought it was this like weird northern blood.

[Tom]

No, you didn't. But me and him are polar opposites. Like, I think that's why we get on so much.

[Casey]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Tom]

Polar opposites.

[Casey]

Yeah.

[Fran]

How.

[Rhianne]

How old were you guys when you, when you did your. The first. Your first season?

[Casey]

26.

[Tom]

I was 23.

[Fran]

Okay.

[Tom]

Yeah.

[Rhianne]

So that's why I feel like it's really. Can be so people's experiences can be so different, I think depending on, on how old they are. It's like 23 is young.

[Casey]

Yeah.

[Rhianne]

I think to, you know, and whatever. Obviously multiple. Multiple shows, but in the span of only, what, a couple years?

[Tom]

Yeah, 26 now.

[Rhianne]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. From the first one, too.

[Casey]

I feel like I'd have lasted like two days if I went on when I was 20. Really? Yeah, I just felt like I'd have been too young, personally.

[Fran]

Yeah, I can stay really long next time, please.

[Rhianne]

Or there. Are there any other shows you would be interested in doing? I know, yeah.

[Casey]

I loved being on tv. Like, I think it's great. So I'd definitely do other shows. I'd love to do Traitors. Yeah, that'd be great.

[Fran]

That would be great.

[Casey]

Yeah. We have Strictly Come Dancing in the uk, which is like, same as. Yeah, that one. Yeah, I'd love to do that. Maybe even like any dance. No, yeah, exactly, exactly. So, yeah, I want to do more tv. Has.

[Rhianne]

Has Strictly become more popular? Like, Dancing with the Stars has been around for a really long time and I think Dancing the Stars came from Strictly for, like. I think Strictly came first and then we did. Yeah, I think so.

[Casey]

And then.

[Rhianne]

Days with the Stars sort of like, just was super popular with an older demographic and, you know, younger people weren't watching it. Now the last few years, it's like exploded again and it's huge on TikTok and everybody's watching it.

[Casey]

Is that because people like Alex Earl are on it?

[Rhianne]

Yeah.

[Fran]

Last season, though, like, people got really interested with like, you know, the Bachelor.

[Casey]

Okay.

[Fran]

Oh, yeah, Joey, the Bachelor was on it last season. And then before that, Ariana Matic.

[Casey]

Yeah, you know. Oh, she did it.

[Rhianne]

Yeah, she was fantastic. But it's just like they. Now it's just being talked about so much and even on my own Tick tock, I see like a ton of clips from Strictly and I've never, like. I've never seen clips from it.

[Tom]

I think it's been big for ages. Strictly. Yeah, I think so.

[Casey]

Yeah.

[Rhianne]

It's always.

[Casey]

Yeah, it's one of the biggest shows there is on in the uk for sure.

[Rhianne]

And now they're doing Traders, Celebs. Celeb.

[Casey]

Yeah.

[Rhianne]

Right.

[Casey]

Yeah. That looks so good. I haven't been able to watch it because I've been here, but the cast was.

[Rhianne]

Yeah.

[Casey]

Strong. Like really strong.

[Rhianne]

So would you. Which would you prefer to do? The one in the UK or the one here?

[Casey]

Probably us.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Casey]

Yeah, because probably chances are probably higher to get on because they've always had like a Love Islander uk. Yeah. And Ekin was on the one Before.

[Fran]

Yes. Ekan is so fun.

[Casey]

Yeah. Have you met her?

[Fran]

Yes, yes, yes. She's coming. And she was just on. Did you guys see that show Inside?

[Casey]

I haven't watched it, but I know she was on it. Yeah.

[Fran]

Hilarious.

[Casey]

Was she so funny. She's TV gold, though.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Tom]

She just says it how it is.

[Fran]

Oh, she really is.

[Noah]

She was.

[Casey]

She knows. She knows what to do on reality tv. She's so good. Like, she was on my All Stars season, but she was. She was great.

[Rhianne]

Yeah, she does. She really. She is one of those people, and it's one of those people that you, like, don't get. Some people, it's like, when they do a lot of shows, you're like, oh, they're doing another show. No, I was like, I see.

[Fran]

Back on.

[Rhianne]

I was actually gonna put Casey in the same category where it's like, you like, watching them on reality tv. There's people that you want to see. Like, definitely. Sue has that where it's like, she. Every. If. If she signs up to do every reality show, I'll be like, great.

[Fran]

I'll watch show. I feel like people feel that way about you. They think you're very funny, so they just want to see you on tv. Yeah.

[Rhianne]

Yeah.

[Fran]

Do you think it's hard to now keep up with, like, your Tick Tock and everything? You feel like you gotta, like, stay on top of it.

[Casey]

Yeah. But I. I feel like it does come quite naturally. Like, I always think of, like, ideas and stuff, and I love doing TikTok. It's great. Yeah, you can actually. I feel like you can get your personality across a lot more on Tick Tock than you can Instagram.

[Fran]

Unless you were just big on Instagram reels.

[Casey]

Yes, true. Unless.

[Noah]

Yeah.

[Fran]

You know.

[Tom]

Yeah.

[Rhianne]

Did you guys do, like, like, superlatives in. In school?

[Casey]

Like, what does that mean?

[Rhianne]

We have, like, in your years. That's not English. Never heard that in your yearbook. Like, you get most likely to or usually.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Rhianne]

Like.

[Casey]

Yeah.

[Rhianne]

You know. Yeah.

[Fran]

Best dress.

[Rhianne]

Best dress. Best smile. Best laugh. Those. Those kinds of things.

[Casey]

Yeah.

[Rhianne]

Because I was gonna wonder if you guys did, like.

[Casey]

Yeah.

[Rhianne]

You guys had that private school.

[Casey]

Yeah. Most likely to be on tv.

[Tom]

No, you didn't, bro.

[Casey]

Yes, I did.

[Fran]

Prove. I felt like you just made that up. Yeah.

[Casey]

I'll show you my year yearbook.

[Noah]

Prove it.

[Fran]

Didn't even know what superlatives was he. Most likely.

[Casey]

Well, we call it a yearbook.

[Fran]

Yeah. Yeah. I don't know.

[Rhianne]

Let me just call it the yearbook.

[Fran]

That's true. It is a yearbook.

[Rhianne]

Yeah.

[Fran]

We need the proof.

[Casey]

Yeah.

[Tom]

I don't believe.

[Casey]

Yeah.

[Fran]

You know what I mean? Like, don't you think he would have posted that? Yeah.

[Tom]

100.

[Amelia]

Why?

[Tom]

It's something.

[Casey]

I think I maybe did post it a couple of years ago.

[Tom]

Yeah.

[Fran]

In high school.

[Rhianne]

He's like, I don't know if I'm.

[Fran]

Making this up now.

[Tom]

You've dug a hole now.

[Casey]

No, I haven't. I can show. Do you know what? When I get back to the UK tomorrow.

[Rhianne]

Yep.

[Casey]

I'm gonna go through, take. Take a picture and send it to you.

[Tom]

Yeah, fair enough.

[Casey]

I'll put it on my story the day this pod comes out.

[Noah]

Yes.

[Rhianne]

I'd be like, here, here it is.

[Fran]

I just googled it and it didn't come up. But the first article is love Islander flies out for fourth go at show despite Maya Jama banning him.

[Rhianne]

My God, Did Maya ban you or did she jok say stop?

[Casey]

You commented on one of my Instagram posts or Tik Toks being like, please, not again. Yeah, yeah, okay.

[Rhianne]

Well, you know, I think it. It is a. It is a running joke, but, you.

[Fran]

Know, I feel like. Lol. My guy. Enough.

[Casey]

Yeah, that was it.

[Fran]

That was. Yeah.

[Casey]

My guy.

[Tom]

My guy.

[Fran]

She hit you with a my guy. Have you guys seen, like, article like, okay, this is from the sun, right? So whenever we read something from the sun, we're always like, oh, how true can that be? Is that how you guys feel about the Sun?

[Tom]

I feel like uk. UK press.

[Casey]

I don't know.

[Noah]

The.

[Rhianne]

It's a lot of.

[Tom]

A lot of. It's like clickbait, I think.

[Rhianne]

Yeah.

[Casey]

Yeah.

[Fran]

Especially I feel like with the sun too.

[Casey]

Yeah.

[Rhianne]

Because we deal. We do, you know, on the show, we obviously. We cover pop culture topics. And, like, even when we're, like, researching things, it's always a very. Like, it'd be a headline from a new source, and then the next one is like the Daily Mail headline. And the Daily Mail one is always like, nuts. You're always like, wait a sec, is.

[Casey]

That the same as, like, TMZ here?

[Fran]

Yeah, except TMZ is pretty accurate. Yeah. Like, TMZ doesn't really. They've pro. They've been wrong once or twice. It's for sure a big deal. Right? Like, people are like, tmz, massively big on, like, Breaking. Right? But because most of the time, the things that they report are right when they do fuck up.

[Rhianne]

Yeah.

[Fran]

It's like, oh, my God, I can't believe TMZ posted that. Like, that's a major, major fuck up.

[Rhianne]

What did you guys feel about, like, coming off the show and kind of being in. In more and more of the. Of the tabloids, like, did you ever pay attention to it at all? Or was it like.

[Tom]

I think sometimes what you laughing at? I know exactly what he's laughing at.

[Casey]

So we went to Ibiza. We went to Ibiza, and it's my favorite story that ever came out, like, of all time. I need to come. We went on a. Like a boat.

[Fran]

Before you continue the story, can I ask.

[Casey]

Yeah.

[Fran]

You say Ibiza, right?

[Casey]

Yeah.

[Fran]

Would it be just like such a major, you know, faux pas, I guess you would call it if we were to say Ibiza?

[Casey]

No, that's normal.

[Fran]

Yeah, it's normal.

[Casey]

Yeah. Yeah, we know. We know Americans call it that as well.

[Fran]

When I went to Ibiza, I was. Was getting my hair done and all of the people in the shop were making fun of somebody who came in and called it Ibiza.

[Tom]

Oh, really?

[Fran]

And they were like, oh, my God, Classic Ibiza. And I'm sitting there in my head, I'm like, oh, my God, should I be calling it Ibiza? You know, it's like a. You get nervous. You don't want to say the wrong thing.

[Noah]

No, no.

[Fran]

But it just flies off naturally.

[Casey]

Yeah, yeah. Ibiza. Ibiza.

[Fran]

Same thing.

[Tom]

This is when I was single.

[Casey]

All right, we know you weren't with Molly. This is like. This is when we first came off the show, first time out, and we went to this beach club and we invited all these girls to come on this boat with us the next day. And we just like, we're mind our own business on this boat in the middle of the ocean, like right in the middle, like so far out of shore. And then the next day we wake up to this article and it's a paparazzi on the cliff and Tom's got toe tally.

[Fran]

Oh, wow. Can I read? It says, oh, my God. It's a play on. Totally loves it. Love island star Tom Clare sucks Mystery Girls toes in Ibiza after split from Sammy on holiday with co star Casey.

[Rhianne]

Wow.

[Fran]

Yeah, you had the full.

[Tom]

It wasn't my proudest moment.

[Rhianne]

The longest headlines ever.

[Fran]

Multiple.

[Rhianne]

Oh, they're always so long. The headlines are always so long.

[Casey]

Oh, my God.

[Rhianne]

And very descriptive, descriptive words. Yeah, that is so.

[Fran]

And how did you. Were you like, super hungover waking up to that article and you're like, oh.

[Tom]

No, you're in Ibiza Holiday man.

[Casey]

And he had me giggling.

[Fran]

Yeah. The thing is, you're an Ibiza, though, so it flies like. Yeah, I had A couple toes in my mouth. But we were in Ibiza.

[Rhianne]

Yeah.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Casey]

You know, I just can't believe they caught that one.

[Tom]

He definitely got a pair eyes, that photographer.

[Casey]

Oh, my God. Yeah. He must.

[Tom]

He got easy at the top.

[Casey]

He must have taken it.

[Rhianne]

How can you tell?

[Fran]

Like, could you. When you were on that boat, you didn't notice the paparazzi?

[Casey]

No, because they got that extra zoom.

[Fran]

You don't even know where they're coming from.

[Casey]

Yeah. Crazy.

[Fran]

See that?

[Rhianne]

It's like. That's what I'm saying. That's so crazy to me, especially, like you just all the these stories and one picture can probably. I feel like one picture sometimes in the US is like, there's a couple articles, then it dies and it goes by pretty quickly. I feel like sometimes I see a Daily Mail article, like, like 18 different articles about the same picture. It's like kind of like a slight change of the story, but it's all pretty much the same. So it's like that. That's a lot. You never know what those hidden lenses.

[Noah]

No.

[Rhianne]

Where they are.

[Fran]

You could be sucking somebody's toe in a. Bees.

[Tom]

Who would do that?

[Casey]

It's A.I. now it's fine.

[Tom]

What's that?

[Casey]

You can just say it's AI.

[Tom]

They say I. Yeah, that's true. Wasn't me, though.

[Fran]

Yeah, we know that. We know that one's not AI. But now you know, Casey, if you're ever on holiday.

[Rhianne]

That was one of the jokes that one of the guys on. On UK had said when he Cat Cash was. When he cried, he was like, that was AI. That wasn't me crying. That was funny. You guys, you don't. Do you keep up with the show at all?

[Casey]

Like, we have been watching.

[Tom]

I watched.

[Rhianne]

What did you think of them putting an American girl on the show, Tony?

[Tom]

Yeah, she was good. She was really.

[Fran]

And she won it.

[Rhianne]

And she won.

[Casey]

It. And she won it. Yeah.

[Fran]

At first we were kind of judgmental about it.

[Rhianne]

I switched my tune big time. I was like.

[Fran]

I don't watch UK from America. We want to escape the Americans. And then the more the season went on, we were like, you know what?

[Casey]

She came up.

[Rhianne]

Yeah, she did.

[Fran]

And it was so funny because it was interesting to see everybody want to talk to her because she was from America, where it's like opposite. When somebody comes in on the U.S. like season six, when Liv came in from Australia, everyone's like, oh, this Australian girl is here.

[Casey]

Because they've had a few UK people on the USA one.

[Rhianne]

Yeah, they do.

[Fran]

They've yeah, they brought a lot of traders.

[Casey]

The Miguel.

[Fran]

Miguel. Yeah.

[Tom]

Oh, yeah, we met him.

[Casey]

Yeah. Dallas.

[Rhianne]

Was on Traders.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Noah]

Originally.

[Fran]

And then.

[Casey]

Oh, really?

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Rhianne]

Brought a ton.

[Fran]

Yeah, too.

[Rhianne]

It's like they always, I think like the U.S. now, they're so huge. But before they did try and like they brought in from other people to give it a little amp. Lucinda did Love Island, Australia.

[Casey]

Yeah.

[Rhianne]

Yeah. Which was like, I remember, like watching Australia. I watched like all of them. Not all of them because I didn't even realize when they do Love island games, I'm like, Love Island Netherlands.

[Fran]

Or Love Island Malta.

[Rhianne]

Malta, yeah. They do. They always like picking someone from Love Island, France. How long were you actually, like, it seemed like a quick stint you had on the show.

[Casey]

I was there. Yeah. Five, six days.

[Rhianne]

Yeah.

[Casey]

Yeah.

[Rhianne]

It was crazy.

[Casey]

Yeah.

[Rhianne]

But did they have you waiting for a while because you came in later?

[Casey]

Yeah, I was waiting for a little bit.

[Rhianne]

Yeah.

[Casey]

I. But I came later than everyone else because I was in Sydney. So I came like maybe a couple weeks after everyone else. So I wasn't waiting as long as other people were, but I'm still waiting a little bit of time.

[Rhianne]

Yeah.

[Fran]

Did you get. Yeah. Did you get to enjoy Fiji at all?

[Casey]

Not really.

[Noah]

Yeah.

[Casey]

No.

[Tom]

You don't really go to me every day.

[Casey]

I still have my phone, which was good.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Casey]

But yeah, I didn't really get to see much of. Much of the island.

[Fran]

How much time do you guys spend together even though you don't live that.

[Tom]

Close at the minute? Probably not much. But we all. We speak every day.

[Casey]

We literally face on every single day.

[Fran]

Yeah. Gotta catch up. Yeah, of course.

[Casey]

Yeah. But yeah, because we don't live together anymore because we moved in together after showing. But then Tom obviously moved back up up with Molly, so we don't see each other as much as we would obviously like to, but we're both so busy. Like.

[Tom]

But like stuff like this, like New York.

[Casey]

Yeah. Yeah. We go on holiday with each other at least once a year.

[Rhianne]

That's nice.

[Fran]

It is actually really nice.

[Casey]

Yeah.

[Rhianne]

Make time for each other. It is.

[Noah]

I know.

[Rhianne]

That is really nice.

[Fran]

All right, we have one last question. Frances, she has one last question.

[Rhianne]

Is presented by Armani Zarmani.

[Noah]

Beauty.

[Rhianne]

We kind of talked about it a little bit, but now that you have opposite kind of experiences. Sounds crazy. I guess dating wise.

[Fran]

Sorry. You won the show and got engaged. You won the show, broke up.

[Rhianne]

What sharing your dating life on. On social media is like for each of you and because, you know, people love seeing you and Molly Together, so they want all that, that content. And then I guess like if you start dating someone, it's like, do you keep it more hush hush to see? Like how do you kind of balance the dating and the social media?

[Tom]

Yeah, we keep a lot of stuff private, but we also share what we want to share as well. So we literally have the best of both worlds because we get people followed us because they love our journey, they love us growing together and showing the engagement and stuff like that. People of course want to see it, so we'll share that. But yeah, of course we keep a lot of stuff private and just us too as well.

[Fran]

I feel like you guys do a great job at that. It's like you can see a little bit of your life but. But obviously you're together all the time, so we're not seeing. Keep the private moments private while also giving the fans just a little bit. Yeah, yeah.

[Rhianne]

Casey, what do you think going forward? Like if you find someone, you think you'll keep it private?

[Casey]

I think it depends on what they want to do. Yeah, I think like if they're happy to get involved in my tiktoks.

[Fran]

Say we're see this on TikTok.

[Rhianne]

Well, it depends. Maybe you fall in love and she's like, I don't want to be in your TikTok.

[Casey]

Yeah. Or maybe she might, might even be like in the same industry. Like, I don't, I don't know. Do you want that? I don't think she will be.

[Noah]

No.

[Casey]

I think I don't want to date an influencer now.

[Rhianne]

Yeah.

[Fran]

Right.

[Casey]

Because it hasn't worked in the past. I think it's time to switch up.

[Fran]

Well, we'll.

[Rhianne]

You'll come to New York and.

[Fran]

Yeah. Find out if anybody you met in New York.

[Rhianne]

Yeah, right. Exactly. Exactly. Well, guys, thank you so much for jumping in and joining us in the studio. This was a ton of fun. We love following along.

[Fran]

Yes.

[Rhianne]

Can't wait to see the wedding content and you know, whatever show Casey on.

[Fran]

On next. Yeah, we'll root for you to be on Traders. I think you would be amazing. Great. On Traders.

[Rhianne]

I would love to see you on Traders.

[Fran]

Let's tell the agents to work on it.

[Tom]

Yeah.

[Rhianne]

I think maybe you and Kendall need to like fight it out because I bet you Kendall wants to go on Traders.

[Casey]

Yeah, yeah, he does. He, yeah, he wants to be like a presenter, I think. Yeah. Kendall.

[Rhianne]

Yeah, he does want to do like hosting stuff.

[Casey]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Fran]

Let's be real. He wants to go on Traders.

[Rhianne]

Yeah.

[Fran]

I would want to go on Traders. Exactly. Well, thank you guys so much for joining us, and have a safe trip back.

[Casey]

Thank you. Cheers, guys.

[Rhianne]

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[Fran]

All right, ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to another game of Beatrie and Fran. This is game number 194, and we are joined by Amelia and Aaron. They've been friends since high school. They bonded over their love for Harry Styles, as we all do. So thank you guys for joining us. We're excited to play. Yeah.

[Amelia]

Thank you. Thanks for having us.

[Rhianne]

Amazing. We're going to jump into it. It's 15 questions. If you get it right, you get the point. If you get it wrong, the other team can steal the point. Whoever has the most points. Points at the end wins. To determine who goes first, Noah's gonna give us a movie. We're gonna guess the Rotten Tomatoes critic score of that movie. Whoever is closest will go first, and we all get our own. Individual guests will alternate between teams for guesses. So, Noah, what is today's movie?

[Noah]

Today's movie is her. You ever see that?

[Fran]

Oh, her computer name.

[Noah]

Scarlett Johansson.

[Fran]

The computer.

[Rhianne]

She's a computer.

[Noah]

Yeah, she's a computer AI. Yeah.

[Fran]

All right, so one of you will guess first.

[Amelia]

I'll go first. I think it was really well received. So 75. I'll say.

[Fran]

Good guess. Good guess. I was gonna guess 76. I'm still gonna guess 76.

[Rhianne]

Yeah, go for it.

[Fran]

76. Trust your gut.

[Amelia]

Feel like I'll go like 70. 62. A little bit lower strategy.

[Rhianne]

I'm gonna say 49.

[Noah]

76. Closest. 95.

[Fran]

Whoa. Oh. All I had to do was go one up. Yeah, it's a good movie. That's a high score.

[Noah]

Also way ahead of its time. Looking back now, like so.

[Rhianne]

Yeah, right.

[Fran]

Falling in love with it.

[Noah]

I haven't rewatched it in, like, 10.

[Fran]

Years, but, yeah, it probably be even more creepy.

[Amelia]

I was gonna say hit's a little different now.

[Rhianne]

Definitely.

[Amelia]

Yeah, for sure.

[Noah]

Okay, so question to ran Fran shout out April from Irvine, California, in the 1999 movie. She's all that. What was the bet between Zach and Dean?

[Fran]

It was about Lacey getting her to go to prom and winning Prom queen. Can you make. Can you make a dorky girl into prom?

[Tom]

Yeah.

[Noah]

Yeah.

[Fran]

Yeah, that's it.

[Noah]

Yeah.

[Fran]

Final answer correct. Am I a bet? Am I a fucking bet? Classic.

[Noah]

All right, question number two. It's one. Nothing. Ran Fran, shout out Rachel from Chaska, Minnesota. What two people co hosted Dancing with Osiris from seasons 18 to 28?

[Amelia]

I believe it's Erin Andrews and Tom Bergeron.

[Fran]

Exactly.

[Amelia]

Yes.

[Fran]

Okay.

[Amelia]

Final answer correct.

[Fran]

Boom.

[Amelia]

Amelia, we got our one.

[Fran]

That's all anybody's ever hoping for is just to get one.

[Noah]

I've seen some people, like, campaigning for Aaron Andrews to come back. Have you seen that?

[Rhianne]

Tom and Aaron were a fantastic duo. They, you know, they. Their time got. Their time was cut short if you ask me.

[Noah]

They must be like, damn, we really missed. Missed this wave.

[Fran]

No, it was. It was popular when they were hosting.

[Rhianne]

It was. It was. But I mean, they made the mistake of. It was the Tyra move after that.

[Amelia]

Yeah, I was gonna say it was Tyra. That was.

[Noah]

All right. Tied up at one. Question number three. Insta Reenfranchetta. Melissa from Naples, Florida. What actress was in all three of these movies? Mean Girls. The original Inside Out 2. Blades of Glory.

[Fran]

Tina Fey.

[Rhianne]

Amy Poehler.

[Fran]

No, Amy Poehler and Inside Out. Amy Poehler's in Inside out, but it's.

[Rhianne]

Amy Poehler and Blades of Glory.

[Fran]

Yes, right. It's Amy Poehler, not Amy.

[Rhianne]

Yeah, I think it's Amy Poehler.

[Fran]

All right, Amy Poehler. Final answer correct.

[Noah]

Do you know what her character is inside out to?

[Rhianne]

Well, she's the main girl.

[Noah]

Oh, she's the main. I've never seen it.

[Amelia]

She's Joy, right?

[Rhianne]

She's Joy.

[Fran]

Oh, yeah, Yeah.

[Rhianne]

I think they just tried to throw us off by saying Inside out, too. Instead of Inside Inside Out, I was.

[Noah]

Like, oh, she was only in two.

[Rhianne]

No, yeah, no, she's in both. She's the star of both.

[Noah]

All right, two. One R&Fran, question number four to Aaron and Amelia. Shadow Ariana from New York City. Chris and Liam Hemsworth are famous actor siblings. They also have a lesser known brother. What is his name?

[Amelia]

Is it Luke? Yes. And you know why? Are you sure about that? No, I think. Yes, because I was thinking of five seconds of Summers, Luke and how their names are very similar, like their last names. So I was like, I. I think it's Luke. All right, we'll go with Luke.

[Noah]

Correct.

[Fran]

Yep. Nicely. Done.

[Noah]

He's the oldest, too.

[Rhianne]

Good old Luke Hemsworth.

[Noah]

I thought he was the youngest, but.

[Rhianne]

Now he's the old. Yeah. Oldest. I think Chris is the middle, right?

[Noah]

Is he?

[Fran]

Chris is the middle, yeah. He doesn't give middle.

[Noah]

He does not.

[Rhianne]

He does.

[Noah]

He's oldest.

[Rhianne]

Yeah.

[Noah]

All right, it's tied up at two. Question number five, and this is to reinfranch Sam from Iowa, name the movie based on this IMDb description. When the feud between the son of the American president and Britain's prince threatens to drive a wedge in US British relations, the two are forced into a staged truce that sparks something deeper.

[Rhianne]

Red, white and royal blue.

[Fran]

Final answer correct.

[Rhianne]

Great movie.

[Amelia]

I couldn't think of, like, the name.

[Fran]

Of it, but I was like, it's a movie that Fran loves.

[Rhianne]

Yeah, Love that movie. And they're making a second.

[Amelia]

I was gonna say, do we have any update on that?

[Rhianne]

They made. They made it. I just don't think it's out yet. But they filmed it. Yeah.

[Noah]

All right. Three, two, R&Fran. Question number six to Aaron and Amelia. Shout out Melissa from Chicago in Harry Potter rescuing Harry from Godrick's Hollow. Who did Hagrid borrow the flying motorbike from?

[Amelia]

I knew there was going to be a Harry Potter question and I should have watched. I don't know them well enough.

[Rhianne]

Shoot.

[Noah]

15 seconds.

[Amelia]

I'm gonna be so mad at myself when I hear, wasn't the Weasleys, was it?

[Noah]

Three seconds.

[Amelia]

Let's just say the Weasleys. I don't have anything else.

[Noah]

Incorrect. To reinforce Friend.

[Rhianne]

I don't know. I don't know where that motorbike comes from.

[Fran]

I don't know either.

[Rhianne]

He shows up.

[Noah]

15 seconds.

[Rhianne]

Borrowed it from.

[Fran]

Dumbledore. Final answer incorrect.

[Noah]

Serious, black.

[Rhianne]

Oh, I should have just guessed that.

[Fran]

Damn.

[Noah]

All right, it is.

[Fran]

No, you didn't.

[Rhianne]

No, no, I, I, I did, though.

[Noah]

Seriously, After I failed my math class.

[Rhianne]

No, I said no.

[Noah]

I knew that.

[Fran]

No, I knew all those questions.

[Rhianne]

Serious was my first gut thought. And then I thought that. That I was thinking of the wrong time.

[Noah]

All right, three.

[Fran]

Always go with your gut. That's what we learn here.

[Rhianne]

Yeah, I know.

[Noah]

Ran Friend and his questions to them. Shout out Libby and Sophia from Lafayette, Louisiana, in Friends. What store does Phoebe hate?

[Fran]

Pottery Barn. Final answer, correct.

[Noah]

Nice. Two weeks in a row.

[Fran]

Yeah. All right, don't test me.

[Noah]

Four, two. Rhianne, Friend. Question number eight to Aaron and Amelia. Shout out Ariana from New York City. Again, One Direction, first tour, the US Opening for which boy band?

[Fran]

Big time.

[Amelia]

Big time Rush. Final answer.

[Fran]

What a throwback I had.

[Noah]

No, I was shocked.

[Fran]

Yeah. That is shocking. Yeah, it's true. But shocking because we were with you.

[Amelia]

I was listening to Louis Tomlinson's, like, podcast that he just said, like, the super long form one and he mentioned it and I was like, I forgot about.

[Noah]

Yeah, that's such a flex for all those guys.

[Fran]

It is. It's so crazy when you think about it.

[Noah]

Harry Styles, open for me.

[Casey]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Noah]

All right. Four, three. Rhian Friend. This question to them, shout out. Allison from Atlanta. Put these Drake albums in order from oldest to newest. Take care. Views. Nothing was the same. If you're reading this, it's too late.

[Fran]

So Take care. Views. Nothing was the same. If you're reading this, it's too late. Okay, so take care is first, then it's Nothing was the same. If you're reading this, it's too late. Views. Final answer.

[Noah]

Correct.

[Rhianne]

Nice.

[Noah]

I was listening to Drake today.

[Fran]

Actually, so was I.

[Noah]

This morning.

[Fran]

I was in a Drake movie. You know what it is? It's hotline bling season. Yeah. October. Came out in October.

[Noah]

Damn. I was never a big hotline bling guy, though.

[Fran]

It. Here's the thing. When you go back and listen now, it hits because it reminds you of a time.

[Noah]

Hold on.

[Fran]

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[Noah]

Okay. Five, three, Ran. Fran, I'm gonna play a movie clip and you tell me what it's from. This is two to Aaron and Amelia.

[Fran]

I am not the awful person that I know that I was. I don't even know that person. And I, I'd like to believe, I have to believe that if you knew that if in your heart you, you really, really knew that, you wouldn't be getting ready to marry someone right now unless as someone or me.

[Amelia]

Mary, do you have any ideas? Is it Jennifer Garner's voice? I think so. It was either her or. What was the Patrick Dempsey movie? Man of Honor?

[Fran]

No.

[Noah]

She would.

[Amelia]

Go with your gut because I, I have no clue.

[Noah]

Five seconds.

[Amelia]

Who does she marry? We'll just pass on it.

[Fran]

Pass.

[Noah]

I guess.

[Amelia]

Yeah.

[Fran]

13. 13.

[Rhianne]

Yeah, 13 going on 30. Final answer?

[Noah]

Correct.

[Fran]

Darn.

[Rhianne]

It's a great line. It's a great line.

[Fran]

You said Jennifer Gardner.

[Noah]

All right. No. 6, 3. Have you guys seen Big, the Tom Hanks movie? It's like the same thing as 13. Okay. Six, three. Rhian. Fran, this is question number 11. To them, shout out Ariana from New York City again. Name this song from these lyrics. I am not a stranger in the dark hideaway they say because we don't want your boy broken parts.

[Rhianne]

Say them again.

[Noah]

I am not a stranger to the dark hide away they say cuz we don't want your broken parts.

[Fran]

Not ringing a bell for me without the tone.

[Noah]

10 seconds.

[Rhianne]

Is it? Name the song.

[Noah]

Yeah, name the song.

[Rhianne]

Gives me like weekend vibes.

[Noah]

Time is up. I don't know Aaron and Amelia.

[Amelia]

I don't know why. I feel like it fits Taylor Swift Reputation album somehow, but I could not tell you this song if it is Noah, can you say it again? Again, please?

[Noah]

I am not a stranger to the dark hide away they say cuz we don't want your broken parts. Three seconds.

[Amelia]

Damn, that tone would really help.

[Noah]

I couldn't even do it if I tried. All right, time is up.

[Fran]

Yeah. Is it? I could do it with a broken heart.

[Noah]

This is me, the greatest showman.

[Fran]

Oh, oh, oh my goodness gracious. This is the greatest show. Yeah. No, I don't, I don't know. I, I, I would have barely seen the Greatest show show tunes.

[Rhianne]

Not even close to what I was thinking of. Like, didn't even think that was like, an option.

[Noah]

All right, six three. Rean Fran still. This is question number 12 to Aaron and Amelia. Shout out Allie from Rhode Island. What musical artist plays Sophie, the owner of the music store in Gilmore Girls?

[Amelia]

I just started re watching Gilmore Girls again, but I didn't get that far. Yeah. Oh no, we're crashing and burning. What musical artist play, Sophie.

[Noah]

Yeah. Ten seconds.

[Amelia]

Who's somebody that's relevant in that time?

[Noah]

Three seconds.

[Amelia]

I don't have anything from blind.

[Rhianne]

Read that again.

[Fran]

Who is play Sophie.

[Noah]

The what Musical artist plays Sophie? The owner of the music store in Gilmer. Girls.

[Rhianne]

Musical artist, owner of the.

[Fran]

Haven't done my watch yet.

[Noah]

You're losing time.

[Fran]

I know. The fall is slipping away.

[Noah]

15 seconds.

[Rhianne]

It's not Carol King, is it? Carol King.

[Fran]

Final answer correct. There you go.

[Amelia]

Good poll.

[Fran]

Carol Kings and Gilmore Girls.

[Rhianne]

Carole King sings the girl. Yeah, that's why.

[Fran]

Oh, she sings it. She sings. Wow. I didn't know this.

[Rhianne]

Well, it was a song.

[Fran]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Rhianne]

Song first.

[Noah]

Seven, three. That seals the victory in France. Do the final three questions.

[Fran]

Sorry.

[Amelia]

It's okay. Why are you.

[Fran]

Sorry.

[Noah]

Question number 13.

[Fran]

I was being boast.

[Noah]

Shout out. Megan from Miami. This is to ran for it. Taylor Swift is featured on a song called Two is Better than One. This song is by what band?

[Rhianne]

Boys Like Girls.

[Fran]

Final answer correct.

[Noah]

I had no idea she did a song with them.

[Rhianne]

Yeah, they were opening for the Jones brothers on this tour.

[Noah]

Wow.

[Rhianne]

Some shows. Not all of them.

[Noah]

Eight, three. Ran Fran. Question number 14. Two. Aaron and Amelia. Shout out. Riley from Michigan. What is the type of facial that Kim Kardashian famously popularized that involves using your own blood?

[Fran]

Vampire.

[Amelia]

Yeah. Vampire facial is what popped in my head.

[Fran]

Okay.

[Amelia]

Final answer correct.

[Fran]

Cool. Thank goodness. Sick.

[Noah]

All right, eight, four. Final question to Re and France. Shout out Lauren. In the summer I turn pretty. What is Conrad Fisher's ex girlfriend's name that Billy caught comforting Conrad upstairs during Susanna's luncheon?

[Rhianne]

What's her name?

[Fran]

I don't recall.

[Rhianne]

I want to say it's an a name.

[Noah]

15 seconds.

[Fran]

Amber. Five seconds, Amber. Final answer incorrect. No Freaking.

[Rhianne]

I can't picture her face.

[Amelia]

You watch that.

[Fran]

She. Amelia.

[Rhianne]

She's just the one that found me.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Amelia]

I'm literally picturing the scene and Belly's reaction. I don't know why.

[Fran]

Just say it.

[Amelia]

It's not gonna be Veronica. But Veronica is in my head. I don't know. Go for it, Veronica.

[Noah]

Incorrect. I'll bring Aubrey.

[Rhianne]

Aubrey.

[Fran]

I should have gone.

[Rhianne]

I was close.

[Fran]

Same diff. You know what I mean.

[Rhianne]

An A and a B.

[Fran]

They were on the same page. There. On the same page. Veronica would have been awesome.

[Amelia]

Yeah, that would have been great clothes.

[Fran]

It would have been. It would have been amazing. Thank you guys so much for playing. We really appreciate you taking the time. And honestly, you know, not to be selfish, it was a great game.

[Noah]

I mean, you guys got more questions?

[Fran]

A lot of Questions. And that's all that matters. Matters.

[Rhianne]

Which is good, because sometimes it's not.

[Fran]

Yes, exactly.

[Amelia]

I was like, aaron, I'm gonna cry if we get zero. We don't want to be in that team.

[Fran]

Not even close. You guys crushed it. Oh, my gosh. Thank you so much for playing, guys. And you. You still get merch. So know what? Your address and sizes, and we'll get that sent to you guys.

[Amelia]

Well, damn. Hopefully Noah will answer us this time.

[Rhianne]

Yeah.

[Fran]

Yeah. He's a busy man.

[Noah]

You're here, aren't you?

[Fran]

You're here.

[Amelia]

We are.

[Fran]

That's true.

[Noah]

It always does.

[Fran]

There's a lot of people on the list. He can't help it, you know?

[Rhianne]

He said.

[Fran]

He said you're here. He's right.

[Amelia]

He is.

[Casey]

Bye.

[Fran]

Bye, guys.

[Amelia]

Thank you, guys. Have a good one.

[Fran]

All right, that wraps up today's episode of Chicks in the Office. Thank you so much for watching and listening. Reminder, Milwaukee, Chicago, we're coming for you. There's some tickets still on sale, so make sure you get those before they're all gone. We can't wait to see you guys. We love you so much and have an amazing weekend.

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