Chicks in the Office

Episode: DWTS Wicked Night Recap + Love Island's Casey O'Gorman & Tom Clare Interview
Date: October 24, 2025
Hosts: Ria and Fran (Barstool Sports)
Guests: Casey O’Gorman & Tom Clare (Love Island)

Episode Overview

This episode of Chicks in the Office delivers a lively recap of Dancing with the Stars (DWTS) “Wicked Night,” breaking down the performances, judges’ scores, and fan reactions with the humor and blunt honesty Ria and Fran are known for. The show also features an energetic, candid interview with Love Island’s Casey O’Gorman and Tom Clare, discussing their reality TV experiences, life after the villa, celebrity encounters, and their adventures in NYC. The episode wraps up with the popular trivia game segment.

DWTS Wicked Night Recap

Starts: [06:11]

Main Points

• Overall Vibe & Theme:

  • Both hosts loved the “Wicked Night” theme, especially the producers’ decision to follow the musical's story order through the episode.
  • “They do such a great job with the themes and Wicked Night exceeded my expectations. I love that they did it in show order...which I thought was so smart.” – Rhianne [06:53]

• Guest Judge:

  • Jon M. Chu, director of the upcoming Wicked film, joined as a guest judge.
  • “Jon M. Chu knows what he’s talking about when it comes to Wicked, obviously.” – Fran [07:35]
  • Some controversy when he scored Alix Earl an 8 instead of 9s like the other judges.

• Fan Frustrations & Judging Discourse:

  • Ongoing online debates about scoring fairness and favoritism, especially for Whitney and Mark. Some think they get special treatment; Ria and Fran counter that they’re simply excellent.
  • “She’s really f***ing good, so we just need to leave it at that.” – Fran [09:16]
  • The phenomenon of “score inflation,” where once a 10 is awarded, fans want everyone’s favorite to get one.

• Performance Highlights:

  • Whitney & Mark:
    • Mark’s choreography and technical expertise praised; the couple’s first 10 stirred TikTok debates.
    • “He is the vet...he’s so good at making those arrangements fit to the dance that it just makes the star look better.” – Rhianne [10:53]
  • Elaine:
    • Her performance described as magical and tear-jerking, despite less technical dancing at the end.
    • “She’s so inspiring actually to see her up there.” – Fran [13:13]
    • Both hosts felt she deserved at least one 10 for her moment (not just the dancing).
  • Jordan & Ezra:
    • Their routine incorporated internet “finger hold” references, amusing the hosts. Ezra’s first perfect score as a pro.
    • “Ezra dropped to the floor. He was shocked. I think it was his first time getting tens ever as a pro.” – Fran [13:43]

• Elimination:

  • Scott & Riley sent home instead of Andy, sparking debate.
  • Fran admits Andy staying is fun now, but warns it’ll cause backlash if he stays over stronger dancers like Elaine or Danielle.
  • “If Andy’s staying over Elaine or Danielle or Dylan...we got a problem on our hands.” – Fran [17:58]

• Competitor Ranking:

  • Hosts’ top tier: Alex, Robert, Whitney, and (now) Jordan.
  • Danielle recognized for her Argentine Tango; Dylan appreciated for enthusiasm despite needing technical polish.

• Rooting Interests & Reality of “No Dance Experience”:

  • Hosts challenge the “no experience” premise:
    • “I want to be entertained. So do I enjoy watching Whitney put on a performance of a lifetime? Yes.” – Fran [22:51]
    • Discussion of past contestants with dance backgrounds (Jojo Siwa, Charlie D’Amelio, boy banders, etc.).

• Social Media & Confidence Issues:

  • The negative online energy towards confident female contestants like Whitney called out by Fran:
    • “A lot of people don’t like confidence. And Whitney has a lot of confidence. And I love it.” – Fran [24:00]
  • Criticism of “playing to the camera” dismissed as misunderstanding performance art.

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On the dance-offs between fan factions:

  • “People are also really, like, once the first 10s get thrown out, everyone’s like ‘Alex deserved a 10, Robert deserved a 10’...then everybody deserved a 10.” – Rhianne [08:07]

• On Andy’s longevity:

  • “I honestly, I think Andy’s tired. I think he’s got to be exhausted.” – Fran [17:49]

• On performance bias:

  • “There is viewer bias on the style of dance...A jazz or contemporary is just more fun to watch than, like, a foxtrot.” – Rhianne [09:41]

• Calling out bitterness in the fandom:

  • “I think some people might be banding against Whitney to try to get her off the show...which I think is really just spiteful for no reason.” – Fran [22:11]

Love Island: Casey & Tom Interview

Starts: [26:03]

Their New York Adventures & Celebrity Encounters

• First Impressions of NYC:

  • Tom and Casey marveled at NYC’s energy and nightlife.
  • “I didn’t realize how lively it was... everyone goes out.” – Casey [27:06]
  • Both have visited before, but this was Casey’s first real NYC weekend in a long time.

• Meeting Bradley Cooper:

  • “We were walking down the street and I said to Tom, that’s Bradley Coop. He was like, ‘Yeah, all right’...I was like, ‘No, that’s Bradley Cooper!’” – Casey [34:24]
  • Bradley Cooper recognized Casey from Love Island (“You won it!”), which left them stunned and delighted.

• On Post-Show Life:

  • Casey’s split with Gabby—integration of “villa life” to real life just didn’t work out [28:21].
  • Tom, meanwhile, is engaged to Molly and spoke about their closeness post-show.
  • “She’s my person. She’s like my best friend. We do everything together... now we’re engaged.” – Tom [29:28]

• Reality TV Careers:

  • Casey openly admits Love Island is a full-time job and returned for the money: “My job is now Love Island...I wouldn’t have done it if it was for free.” [30:49]
  • Both discuss villa differences in South Africa vs. Fiji, and the joys/challenges of new filming locations.

• Fan Interactions:

  • Casey and Tom noted they’re recognized more in New York than London, and recounted intense fan pursuits, like Snapchat followers tracking their live locations. [38:41]
  • “We’ve had a couple crazy fan interactions here this weekend.” – Casey [38:32]

• On joining other reality shows:

  • Casey is up for more TV, mentions The Traitors (US or UK), and would love to try Strictly Come Dancing.
  • “I loved being on TV...I’d love to do The Traitors...maybe even Strictly.” – Casey [51:02]

Light-hearted Bits

• Tabloid Life & “Toe-gate”:

  • Tom’s tabloid story about being photographed sucking a toe on a boat off Ibiza was shared with lots of laughs. [58:34]
  • “The next day we woke up to this article and it’s a paparazzi on the cliff and Tom’s got a toe in his mouth.” – Casey [58:34]

• NYC vs. LA Dating:

  • Casey strongly prefers New York to LA, especially for the dating scene:
  • “The girls are so much better in New York.” – Casey [41:32]

• Proposal Planning:

  • Tom shares sweet, detailed insights about keeping his Dubai engagement proposal secret.
  • “I had about 12 people in a WhatsApp group in Dubai... I think I smashed it.” – Tom [44:31]

• How They Were Cast:

  • Casey was scouted in person at a bar, Tom got the DM.
  • “That’s the best thing to do because on an interview or DM you don’t know what they’re like...” – Casey [49:25]

• Managing Private vs. Public Life:

  • Tom: “We keep a lot of stuff private, but we also share what we want to share as well... people love our journey.” [64:39]
  • Casey: “If I find someone, I think it depends what they want to do... I don’t want to date an influencer now. It’s time to switch up.” [65:37]

Notable Quotes

• About being recognized by celebrities:

  • “Last time I was here, I met Ryan Reynolds. So I was like, this is, like, sick. Two of the greatest actors ever.” – Casey [34:51]
  • “We see these two girls... ‘we’ve had your Snapchat notifications on all day and we were coming to find you.’ I was like, oh my God.” – Casey [38:40]

• On being a Love Island mainstay:

  • “I feel like my job is now Love Island...I’m full time.” – Casey [30:49]
  • When questioned about how many more times he’d go back: “They wouldn’t [pay more]. With the All Stars, it’s a set thing so no one gets more than the others.” – Casey [33:12]

Trivia Game Segment

Starts: [67:26]

• Regular Feature:

  • Listeners Amelia and Aaron join for a head-to-head trivia segment.
  • Wide-ranging pop-culture questions on movies, music, TV, and Harry Potter.

• Memorable Trivia Moments:

  • Fran’s excitement at correctly answering: “Pottery Barn. Final answer, correct.” ([75:09])
  • Music, movie, and TV questions sparked fast-talking banter—e.g., Red, White and Royal Blue, Amy Poehler roles, and more.
  • “That is shocking...[that One Direction opened for Big Time Rush].” – Fran [75:39]

Important Timestamps

• [06:11] – DWTS Wicked Night recap begins
• [13:01] – Elaine’s emotional performance, should’ve gotten a 10
• [17:49] – Controversy over Andy’s continued competition presence
• [24:00] – Fran addresses the hate for confident contestants
• [26:03] – Love Island’s Casey & Tom interview starts
• [34:24] – Meeting Bradley Cooper in NYC
• [38:41] – Intense, real-life fan interactions in NYC
• [44:00] – Tom discusses planning his (secret) proposal
• [49:02] – How Casey was scouted in person for Love Island
• [58:34] – Tom’s Ibiza paparazzi moment (“toe-gate”)
• [67:26] – Trivia game with listeners begins

Final Thoughts & Tone

• Energy & Honesty: The hosts maintain an upbeat, irreverent vibe, aren’t afraid to express strong opinions about reality TV tropes, viewer biases, or social media drama.
• Original Language: Frequent use of casual, sometimes explicit phrasing; plenty of inside pop culture jokes and references.
• Fan Engagement: Emphasis on behind-the-scenes experiences, the reality of fame, and the balance between authenticity and public personas.
• Strong Community: Throughout, the hosts and guests create a sense of supportive friendship and fandom, all about sharing the fun and drama of pop culture.

Listen if you want...

• An impassioned, comedic breakdown of DWTS drama
• Straight-talk about reality TV fame from the cast themselves
• Hilarious tales of celebrity encounters and viral moments
• Insight on dating, privacy, and life post-reality TV
• Fast-paced, pop-culture trivia fun