Julianne Hough Interview: 'DWTS' S34 & More, 'TSITP' Conrad Hot Take + Beat Ria & Fran Game 188

Summary

Chicks in the Office – Julianne Hough Interview: 'DWTS' S34 & More, 'TSITP' Conrad Hot Take + Beat Ria & Fran Game 188

Date: September 5, 2025
Hosts: Ria and Fran (Barstool Sports)
Special Guest: Julianne Hough

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Episode Overview

This episode is packed with pop culture commentary, fan interactions, and an in-depth interview with Dancing With The Stars host Julianne Hough. Ria and Fran discuss the upcoming Chicks in the Office live tour, take listener voicemails on hot pop culture takes, recap new TV obsessions (including The Summer I Turned Pretty and true crime docs), and close with their recurring “Beat Ria & Fran” trivia game. The highlight is a candid, energetic chat with Julianne Hough about the future of DWTS, social media’s power, and her evolving career.

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Key Segments & Discussion Highlights

1. Tour Announcements and Fall Vibes

Timestamps: 02:08–04:50

• Ria and Fran announce the Chicks in the Office Fall and Holiday Tour, covering cities like Washington D.C., Milwaukee, Chicago (Halloween show), Cincinnati, and Philadelphia (the "hometown" Christmas show for Fran).
• The segment is filled with their signature playful banter.
  Quote:
  • Ria: “Nothing tickles my fancy like fall tour. I love it.” (04:28)
  • Fran (on Philly): “We love it. And it’s technically, we like to call it a hometown show for Fran.” (03:30)

2. Travel, FOMO & The Summer I Turned Pretty Recap

Timestamps: 05:10–10:12

• The hosts discuss upcoming travel, feeling out of sync by not watching TV shows together (especially The Summer I Turned Pretty), and Matt’s reactions to key episodes.
• Light teasing about restaurant overhype in new cities.
• Outfits and personal style observations.
• Upcoming Wicked musical countdown.

3. Sports, Football Fandom, and Documentaries

Timestamps: 11:07–17:00

• NFL season return; Fran’s Eagles loyalty, Ria’s honorary Bills fandom, and Buffalo trip memories.

• Saquon Barkley’s upcoming documentary, the power of “filming your own greatness,” and nostalgia-driven discussions about old home videos and how parents “just knew” their kids were special (or not!).

• The recent boom in sports documentaries (Cowboys, Chiefs, Hard Knocks).

  Quote:

  • Ria: “I’m an honorary Bills fan… Josh Allen, Hailee Steinfeld.” (12:38)

4. Review: Unknown Number Netflix Documentary

Timestamps: 18:53–28:40

• Ria and Fran passionately dissect the shocking documentary about a mother who anonymously harasses her own daughter by text.

• Strong language about the emotional toll, the mental health aspect, and the culture around internet-driven “Munchausen” behaviors.

• Reflections on the documentary’s “who dunnit” format, parental motives, and lack of clear boundary between victim and perpetrator.

  Memorable Quotes:

  • Fran: “There’s a whole nother level of psycho when you go through all of this and then you’re like, yeah, I’m gonna sit down and reenact all this and people are gonna watch it for a documentary.” (22:09)
  • Ria: “This mom needs to be put away… Like, forever.” (20:41)

5. Interview: Julianne Hough – Dancing With The Stars S34

Timestamps: 30:11–62:39

Main Topics:

• DWTS Season 34 Cast:

  • Julianne praises the variety and likability of the new cast, notes the show’s shift to embrace social media and TikTok personalities (notably Alex Earl).
    • Julianne: “It literally could be anybody’s at this point.” (31:19)
    • “Nobody has ever talked about the show as consistently when the season’s not even going as it has this last year.” (33:32)

• Social Media’s Role:

  • The cast is more active on social, creating buzz and pulling in new demographics.
  • Show now straddles two worlds: network TV & viral digital culture.
    • Julianne: “It almost feels like we’re doing two separate shows at the same time.” (34:41)
    • “You have to do it in an authentic way. So, like, what is my ‘why’?” (35:49)

• Behind-the-Scenes Dynamics:

  • How cast members are paired, the growth of “authentic” desire among celebrities to join the show.
  • The competitive but friendly energy among the professional dancers, especially with new additions (notably Jan, from Taylor Swift’s ERAS tour).
    • Julianne: “Now I’m like, I wonder what this dynamic is gonna bring in… I do feel a sense of competitive, like, charge come back.” (61:38)

• Evolving Roles:

  • Julianne discusses moving from pro dancer to judge to host, preferring her host role now for being more present with contestants.
    • “I love watching other people shine.” (38:17)
    • “I have so much respect for the dancers and what they do.” (38:33)

• Family & Career Reflections:

  • Working with brother Derek Hough; their sibling “parallel paths.”
  • Most shocking career milestones: blending her siblings’ dreams, and the journey from Broadway to acting, music, and now hosting.
  • On new perspectives and being a “Jack of all trades,”:
    • “I’m sort of that, like, Jack of all Trades, master of none kind of thing. But…the mastery is that you can do it a little, whatever.” (58:24)
  • Julianne’s excitement over designing Derek and Hayley’s baby room.

• Iconic Moments:

  • Favorite moments as host (e.g. Man in Finance dance), as pro (first samba with Apollo Ohno—her “coming out” moment), and full-circle experiences with the main judges.
    • “Just sitting next to Len and like Carrie Ann and Bruno…was just like…a full circle moment of this is where I started.” (47:23)

• Realness with Fans:

  • Viral interactions, TikTok ‘cringe’ culture, and her infamous Timothée Chalamet question:
    • “Be cringe. You’re at least putting yourself out there.” (46:48)
  • Viewers’ (sometimes limited) awareness of her legacy as a dancer.

Notable Quotes:

• On the show’s transformation:
  • “People are literally begging to be on the show now.” (36:28)
• On competitive spirit:
  • “Everybody wants everybody to win, but everybody wants to win.” (62:16)

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6. Popcorner: Hot Takes & Listener Questions

Timestamps: 64:39–81:18

• The Summer I Turned Pretty “Conrad Hot Take” — Debating whether Conrad’s secrecy is selfish or protective.
• Pop culture parallels: Justin & Hailey Bieber as the new Beckhams.
• Real Housewives of Miami: The importance of acknowledging real-life events (e.g. cancer) in reality TV rewards/sympathy.
• One Tree Hill and TSITP Soundtracks: Curating “what-if” playlists; the pivotal role of songs in TV storylines.

7. Beat Ria & Fran: Game 188

Timestamps: 82:08–101:43

• Fan-favorite pop culture trivia matchup featuring listener contestants Kayla & Joe.
• Range of questions spans Mean Girls to Harry Potter to Taylor Swift lyrics and classic rom-coms.
• Tense overtime round, with Ria & Fran clinching an 8-7 victory.
• Lots of nostalgia, laughs, and witty in-game banter.
  • Ria: "This is a tennis match, seriously… a little back and forth. Ping pong." (94:32)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments (with Timestamps)

• On Shocking True Crime Docs:
  • Fran: “There’s a whole nother level of psycho when … people are gonna watch it for a documentary.” (22:09)
• On DWTS’s New Cast:
  • Julianne: “People are literally begging to be on the show now.” (36:28)
• On Cringe Culture:
  • Julianne: “Be cringe. You’re at least putting yourself out there.” (46:48)
• Sibling Rivalry:
  • Julianne on her career vs. Derek’s: “Well I started judging. Well I started judging. And I’m like, what are you gonna do now? Host? And now he’s the host of Extra so…” (54:18)
• On the Role Social Media Plays Now:
  • Julianne: “It almost feels like we’re doing two separate shows at the same time.” (34:41)

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Episode Structure (with Key Timestamps)

• 02:08–04:50 – Tour Announcements
• 05:10–10:12 – TV Recaps, FOMO, Style
• 11:07–17:00 – NFL, Sports Docs, Fan Fandom
• 18:53–28:40 – Netflix Documentary Discussion
• 30:11–62:39 – Julianne Hough/DWTS Interview
• 64:39–81:18 – Popcorner: Voicemails & Hot Takes
• 82:08–101:43 – Beat Ria & Fran Trivia
• 101:43–End – Outro and Tour Reminder

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Tone & Style

True to Chicks in the Office form: fast-paced, energetic, irreverent, and pop-culture obsessed—with a healthy dose of personal storytelling and candid, unfiltered opinions. Pop culture fans, TV junkies, and DWTS followers will find this episode rich in insights, inside jokes, and nostalgia.

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TL;DR

An action-packed CITO episode: Ria and Fran announce a fall tour; break down DWTS S34 with Julianne Hough (who reveals how social media and new cast members are transforming the show); debate wild theories about Conrad on The Summer I Turned Pretty; review a disturbing true crime documentary; answer listener hot takes; and defend their crown in a high-stakes trivia game. Unfiltered, funny, deeply inside-y, and packed with must-hear pop culture goodness.

Transcript

[Fran]

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[Noah]

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[Ria]

Yeah.

[Olive]

Chick's in the office.

[Fran]

Longtime listener, first time caller.

[Olive]

Look at the charts. Who does it the best Two chicks getting paid in reality checks. You can find them at the gym it's not even a flex Last minute red carpet flew them out on the jet. Yeah, they're who you want to be they're always on your screen Two queens and they might be spilling royalty. A lot of topics that are popping here to get into. I know a show that you probably want to listen to. Well turn the heat up turn the beat up Record the pod made a bag put their feet up the ones that leave no crumbs when they clean up who's the pod that they all want to meet up? Who turned the heat up Turn the beat up Record the pod made a bag put their feet up the ones that leave no crumbs when they clean up who's the pod that they all want to meet up?

[Fran]

What's up everyone?

[Ria]

It's chicks in the office with Brian Fran giving you that Friday energy on a Friday. Happy Friday everybody. We have a great episode for you today. We got the one and only Julianne Hough on today's episode talking all things Dancing with the Stars. It's a big Dancing with the Stars week. Huge week and we are so excited for that. We have the popcorner. We're going to touch on some things in the intro but super, super exciting news. We are going back on tour Big announcement. We're headed back on tour. Tickets will be on sale Tuesday, September 9th at noon Eastern time. We're going to run through the dates for you guys real quick. We're headed Back to Washington, D.C. october 23rd. Milwaukee, October 28th. Chic. October 30th for a fun Halloween show. So make sure you already start thinking of your costumes and what you're gonna wear because we already started thinking about it. Chicago, big Halloween show. Cincinnati, November 8th. And then drum roll for the big Christmas show, December 9th. We are coming back to Philly. It has been two years since we've been to Philly and we are fucking pumped to get back there. We miss it. We. We love it. And it's technically, we like to call it a hometown show for Fran. You know, we could.

[Fran]

It's close enough.

[Ria]

It's close enough. We could wiggle around that. Go birds.

[Fran]

Go birds.

[Ria]

We are.

[Fran]

It's during football season. It is, you know, perfectly all that matters.

[Ria]

We're so excited. Cannot wait to see you guys back on tour. We're super excited for these cities. We think we're gonna have an absolute blast. Some fun things sprinkled in that Halloween show, the Christmas show, all of it. Dc, Milwaukee, Cincinnati, a couple places we haven't been.

[Fran]

Yes.

[Ria]

Very, very excited. So we can't wait to see you there. Tickets are on sale September 9th, 12pm Eastern time. Woohoo.

[Fran]

So excited.

[Ria]

Back on the road. We cannot freaking wait to hang out with you guys.

[Fran]

Yes, it'll be. It'll be a blast. I'm excited to get back and do some shows.

[Ria]

Yes. Very, very excited. We love a fall tour.

[Fran]

Nothing do.

[Ria]

Sprinkles.

[Fran]

Just the best.

[Ria]

Yeah, nothing tickles. I was gonna say sprinkles, but that works too. Tickles my fancy tinkles too.

[Fran]

You said tinkles.

[Ria]

It's the cold. It's the. It's the lingering cold.

[Fran]

You said tinkle. I did.

[Ria]

I did tinkle. It makes me tinkle. Nothing tickles my fancy like fall tour. I love it.

[Fran]

I know.

[Ria]

The weather changing, the vibes that are in the air. I love the fall. Freaking love it. So we can't wait. Remind our tickets on sale Tuesday at noon, September 9th. Make sure you're there or be freaking square. That's what they say.

[Fran]

That's what they say. That's what they say.

[Ria]

Exactly.

[Fran]

We are recording this episode a little bit earlier in the week because we are going to Savannah. Once this comes out, you know, too late. If you missed it, we missed you. We missed, you know, if you missed it.

[Ria]

If you missed the event, we missed you.

[Fran]

Yeah. Yep, yep. But we. I'm sure we had an amazing time always.

[Ria]

I always have a great time at the cocktail hours, the happy hours, dancing, singing.

[Fran]

You guys are traveling. You guys are gonna have one night without me in Savannah. I am. I'm arriving day of.

[Ria]

Yes.

[Fran]

So, you know, I will have fomo. Cause I also wish we were all watching the new summer I turned pretty episode together again. Which really should have factored into my planning more. But it was. It was dog priority with. I was like, ugh. I just, you know, extra. An extra day of finding somebody to help. It's easier to just have it be one day.

[Ria]

Right. So we will be watching the summer I turn pretty without you.

[Fran]

Out without you, unfortunately. Yeah, that's okay. That's okay.

[Ria]

On top of that, I filmed Matt's reaction to episode seven, but then he was traveling for work last week when episode eight came out, so I couldn't film his reaction to that. Cause I watched it. No, he hasn't watched it. But now I'm gone. He's behind.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Ria]

And so then I. So maybe I'll have to do when I get home on Friday, a back to back episodes 8 and 9 reaction from him.

[Fran]

Yeah. Because he may just have to watch eight.

[Ria]

He might have to watch eight without me. And then we could do a reaction to nine after that. But I would love to get his reaction to, you know, what happened.

[Fran]

Yeah, no, yeah. That's a big episode for sure.

[Ria]

For sure. So I got to. I got to figure that out.

[Fran]

But you have no. I just want to let you know the screen's still on. So.

[Ria]

Yeah, we can see your emails.

[Fran]

You're writing out an email that.

[Ria]

Noah, Noah. You're looking that up in the middle of work.

[Fran]

Disgusting.

[Noah]

It's not off.

[Fran]

Oh, my God. Working screen. What the hell? This is what you're doing when we're recording. That's disgusting. Noah, put that away.

[Ria]

But we are. I'm excited. We're going to a restaurant tonight that people had recommended. So we'll give a review on that, do a little walk around. We'll see what happens.

[Fran]

I heard it's very popular, but maybe overhyped.

[Ria]

You know, Fran, wow. Just because you're not gonna be there doesn't mean you need to throw fucking shade on our parade.

[Fran]

No, I just have. No, no, I've heard. I've heard fomo.

[Ria]

The same thing. I've heard that it could be overhyped. I also heard it's really good.

[Fran]

But I actually think that those are the places I always want to go to when I go to a new city. Because I'm like, well, I'll be the judge of that. Yeah.

[Ria]

Also, I'm a fucking tourist, so I'm gonna do the touristy things. You know what I mean? Exactly. So I don't really give a shit.

[Fran]

And I'm gonna go, no, I'm jealous.

[Ria]

And then I'll let.

[Fran]

I'm just jealous.

[Ria]

I could tell. And I'll let you know if it's overhyped.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Ria]

You know what? Green doesn't look good on you.

[Fran]

We are Elphaba and Glenda coated again today.

[Ria]

We are. We are.

[Fran]

It happens unintentionally. We've actually realized we've been wearing these same two for two. I'm wearing the same outfits this week.

[Ria]

We have. We realize we're very in sync with our outfits, which I think is a good thing, because we get the vibes.

[Fran]

Yes.

[Ria]

Like, we know what day we're dressing up. We know what day we're being comfy, cozy.

[Fran]

But it's always, like, opposite.

[Ria]

It's always the same, but opposite. Like, today we are truly.

[Fran]

I mean, we're in the same sneakers.

[Ria]

You're in black and green. I'm in sweatshirt.

[Fran]

Sweatshirt, and bike shorts. I'm in black and green, and you're in pink and white, so. And we both were like. And I know when you guys are all traveling, I'm like, I know. You know, travel day, you want to be in comfy, cozy.

[Ria]

Right.

[Fran]

I was like, she's probably gonna have her glasses on. And then I have my. Now I got glasses, and my glasses are green.

[Ria]

Right? There you go. Because I don't like to do makeup on travel days. I don't like getting on planes with makeup.

[Fran]

It's the whole thing. No, I don't want.

[Ria]

I don't like getting.

[Fran]

Wearing makeup on planes either. So only like 80 days or something till wicked for good.

[Ria]

Oh, my God. So exciting.

[Fran]

I know.

[Ria]

I can't wait.

[Fran]

The countdown is on. It felt like it would be so long ago, but now it's not.

[Ria]

I know it went fast, and, you know, we complained about it, but now it's. Now that it's here. Went fast.

[Fran]

Yeah, yeah.

[Ria]

And it's nice that we get another.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Fran]

And we're just really. We are just really in sync. I also said over the weekend, I burned my. Got, like, some sunburn on my lips. You did the same thing I did.

[Ria]

We're just very in sick. I.

[Fran]

And they still hurt.

[Ria]

Same. Yours is your top, mine's my bottom. We put them together. Kylie Jenner lips. But I walked upstairs, actually did kind.

[Fran]

Of like, the look.

[Ria]

I was like, ooh, no, honey, you don't need that. Your lips are perfect. No, don't. Don't get injections.

[Fran]

No, no, the lip kind of scares me.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Fran]

There's other things that I would do, but the lips kind of scares me.

[Ria]

Yeah, I agree.

[Fran]

Because you just seen so many bad ones.

[Ria]

Exactly. You know, I totally agree. I walked downstairs on Monday, and they were like. It was so. It was like, literally, like, pouty face. They were like, you might have to say on the podcast, like, no, I did not get lip injections. My lips are just fucking burnt. But it went down since then, so we're in the clear. They're just very chapped, so don't worry.

[Fran]

I feel you, too. I've been, like, putting, like. I've been putting heavy lotion.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Fran]

On my lips because they've been.

[Ria]

They've been so bad, but lotion those bad boys up.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Ria]

But, yeah, you'll be missed tonight. And, yeah, I know you'll be jealous, but we won't send you pictures of all of us together and stuff like that. No, I'm sure that.

[Fran]

I can't wait for Noah to Photoshop somebody famous.

[Ria]

Totally.

[Fran]

Whatever restaurant you guys are at, be like, wow, Fran, can't believe you're missing this.

[Ria]

But imagine we really do see somebody.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Noah]

It'll be funny when it really happens eventually. And you think, like, you don't believe it.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Noah]

And, like, you think it's a Photoshop.

[Fran]

I hope that. I hope we do get to that.

[Ria]

Day that did happen. When we were in Disney, we saw Kieran Culkin, and we told our. Our friends that we saw Kieran Cohen. They did not believe us at all. Right, right, right. They were like, no, no, that's obviously a lie.

[Noah]

I literally turned to. That's how you knew it was real.

[Ria]

Yeah, yeah.

[Noah]

He got punched. Friends.

[Julianne Hough]

Yo, yo, yo.

[Ria]

It's Kara Culkin.

[Fran]

So Starstruck literally went, oh. It's like, Fran, look. And I'm. And I. You know, and I still missed him.

[Ria]

But he had a kid on his shoulders.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Ria]

It's very sweet. Anyways, you watched the documentary last night. Unknown number.

[Fran]

I did watch. I forgot about that.

[Ria]

No, I've been.

[Julianne Hough]

I forgot.

[Ria]

I did not forget because 24 hours to discuss it with you.

[Fran]

I do want to talk about that. Let's do that. For first, I want to mention. Go Birds, the Eagles. Play Thursday. Football season's back, baby. Put my sweatshirt on, ready to go. Got some Go Birds. Walk around the street. It's funny, when you're in New York City, you would think you wouldn't get as much, but there's a lot of people here and super bowl champs, you know, so I've got a lot of, oh, go Birds. Go Birds. But they're. Once again. This will be out after the game, so. Hope they won, but, you know, Thursday Night Football, we're back.

[Ria]

So I am so with you. I'm a. I'm an honorary Eagles fan. I was actually telling my parents that we were going to Georgia on Thursday, and they were like, oh, shit, football starts. Like, Frannie going to be watching the Eagles Thursday night. I said, definitely. And they said, oh, like, maybe you should show up in Cowboys. And I said, absolutely not. I said, I'm. No, It'd be disgusting. I said, excuse me. I'm a supporter. I'm an honorary Eagles fan for Fran. Like, I'm an honorary friend for Eagles.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Ria]

So, like, I would never do that. And they were like, oh, that's nice of you. And I was, yeah, I'm not into that.

[Fran]

Like, go against the Eagles.

[Ria]

Show, like, you're never going to catch me slipping with that. Sorry.

[Fran]

And if it was maybe any other team, it'd be, like, maybe a joke. But, like, with the Cowboys, I think I'd actually be like. I mean, actually be like, what the.

[Ria]

No. And also, like, you know, Matt is a Giants fan.

[Fran]

Yeah. They don't like the Cowboys either. Yeah.

[Ria]

But also the Eagles.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Ria]

Like, I'm more supportive of the Eagles.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Ria]

They're better. That's why.

[Fran]

So that is true. I'm also.

[Ria]

I want to say this. I'm also an. I made myself this. I declared it a couple weeks ago. I haven't told anybody, but ready to bring it to the group. I'm an honorary Bills fan.

[Fran]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Noah]

Why?

[Ria]

I love.

[Fran]

Bills are great.

[Ria]

No. Oh, no. That's not.

[Fran]

Oh, no. I know. I. That was my own. But she. Your reason is.

[Ria]

No, my reason was because I really loved Buffalo when we visited last year. True, true. And I loved all the people that we met. They won him over. And I loved the food and I loved the vibes. And, you know, Josh Allen, Hailee Seinfeld.

[Noah]

Josh Allen's great.

[Fran]

I do love their dedication to the Bills, too. It's a very similar. I think it's a very parallel, like, fandom of Eagles fans to Bills fans.

[Ria]

Right. I just love it. And, you know, What? I ordered a Bills varsity jacket from Abercrombie, and I was like, you know what? It is very cool. And I was like, I think I'm like, an honorary. Yeah. Bills fan.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Ria]

So I got allegiances all over the place.

[Fran]

That's all right.

[Ria]

But that's what you like. Hey, I'm just a fan of football. How about that? You know, I kind of hate when people say that, but at the same time, like, that is me.

[Fran]

Right. You know, jumping in.

[Ria]

I'm just here for a good time. Place a couple bets here and there. Support you. Support my husband. Support the Bills randomly. You know what I mean? I don't know personally know any Bills fans, but I know our listeners. There's a lot of Bills fans, so I support them. And if they'll have me. Bill's listeners. Bill's Mafia.

[Fran]

Bill's Mafia. If you'll have me cordially inviting myself.

[Noah]

Tailgate.

[Fran]

Cordially inviting myself, I would love to. I'd love to see you jump through a table.

[Ria]

I'd love to be a part of it this season. Would you have me?

[Noah]

Would you jump through a table?

[Ria]

No.

[Noah]

Come on.

[Ria]

Come on.

[Fran]

What if we did it together?

[Ria]

If everyone was, like, yelling, like, do it.

[Fran]

Do it. Imagine a crowd of people. They're going, you know what?

[Ria]

Can I just say that was such an un. Bill's Mafia answer for me. How would they ever accept me if I were to say, no, absolutely, I jumped through a table.

[Fran]

Absolutely I will.

[Ria]

With the wing in my mouth.

[Fran]

Yep, Yep.

[Ria]

Okay. That was, like, right there. That little growl I just did. That was my football growl. So I'm in it. And we're ready to go Thursday night.

[Fran]

Woohoo. There's a new. It's coming out in October, but I guess Saquon has been filming this, like, full, like, documentary of his life for the last, like, five years. And it's coming out on Prime, I think, early October of, like, the last five years in his journey and whatnot. I'm very like. There's a teaser trailer in it, executive produced by Martin Scorsese.

[Ria]

Wow. Yeah. You think he included that night at Little Sister?

[Fran]

Probably. It's probably a whole episode, If I had to guess.

[Ria]

Were in the background.

[Fran]

If I had to guess, he was like. And then we want. But it'll be very interesting to see, like, the whole transition of, like, there's clips of, you know, him saying, you know, I want to try and stay on the Giants and all those things that went down there. But I. Anybody that has, like, the foresight to be like, you know what? I'm gonna film all of my shit because one day I'm gonna be so great that everyone's gonna want to see it. And it's true.

[Noah]

That's like the. The Jordan documentary. Like, all those things. It's like, wow. They really just knew.

[Ria]

Well, that was like, the Jonas Brothers documentary. They had all these videos of them. Yeah. When they were kids, singing and dancing, and it almost freaked me out because I was like, did their parents. And now there's a bug flying around.

[Fran]

I hated that.

[Ria]

Me, too. It, like, came out of the back.

[Fran]

Came out.

[Ria]

Where the.

[Fran]

Where did that bug come from?

[Ria]

It was almost like, how did the parents know? It was almost like the d', Amelios, too. Remember, like, when the d' Amelio parents had, like, all the home videos of them?

[Fran]

If you have talented kids, you're, like, recording them all the time anyway because you're like, my kid is so. So perfect and different and talented.

[Ria]

We have a lot of home recordings of us, but, like, not doing anything of talent. Same. It's just me smiling at the camera.

[Fran]

Like, yeah, my mom's got a lot of me just, like, trying to boss.

[Ria]

JB and G around, so that makes sense. Well, on the opposite side of that, like, I'm the youngest, so there's a lot of me being told to, like, shut up and, like, videos like, you're annoying and stu.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Ria]

You know, that's where the complex comes in. But it is what it is, so. Yeah.

[Fran]

Yeah, that's true. But that was very interesting, so I'm excited to see that. A lot. A lot of football. Like, a lot of documentaries they've been doing.

[Ria]

Yeah. The Kingdom.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Ria]

The Chiefs Kingdom.

[Noah]

I started watching the Cowboys one.

[Fran]

The Cowboys one on Netflix came out. Plus, I mean, then there's just always Hard Knocks, you know, there's. There's a lot. A lot of preseason stuff to. To watch.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Fran]

Travis talked about. He said he's so happy.

[Ria]

He.

[Fran]

You know, he knows the person he's gonna spend the rest of his life with.

[Ria]

Everybody knows the person he's gonna spend the rest of his life with. And that's gorgeous.

[Fran]

Yep.

[Ria]

That's beautiful. And that's love for you.

[Fran]

It is that.

[Ria]

It is.

[Fran]

Talking about getting to college. Other fiance. So sweet. It is. It is such a thrill.

[Ria]

Yeah. And then on top of that, then husband and wife.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Ria]

Even better.

[Fran]

Yeah. Like, he mentioned that, like, when they went to that Cincinnati Nebraska game, that, like, that was the first time he was really, like, introducing. Heard other People being like, this is my fiance. Say, yeah, the best. Yeah, it's amazing.

[Ria]

We announced the tour, which we are so excited about, and we can't wait to have Truly along with us. Truly is so refreshing. It is amazing to just sit back, relax and enjoy your Truly. This past weekend, I was putting back a couple trulies, had the blood orange bliss, which I have in my hand right now. It matched the sunset, it matched the vibes. It was absolutely delicious, refreshing. And that's what Truly is all about. Having those flavors that are exciting and fresh and just effervescent with style. That is what Truly is made for. It's made to share. So you grab your friends, you grab a pack of Truly, and it's made with flavor. You know, those flavors are just absolutely delicious. So you know what? It's time to just sit back, relax with a Truly hard seltzer. You can find a Truly near you at www.trulyhardselter.com and use that Truly finder. Moving on to documentary. Yeah, I need to know. Sorry, I've been patient.

[Fran]

Okay. Spoiler alert, though.

[Ria]

Spoiler alert. We're going to be talking about the unknown number and we will reveal.

[Fran]

Yeah. Unknown number on Netflix. If you don't want to know who sent the text, don't. Don't listen to this. Okay? So I put it on and I watched with Joe. And let me tell you, five seconds, like five minutes in, Joe was like, I am not gonna like this. He's like, I can just tell already. I am not gonna like where this is going. And in my brain I thought, you know, the culprit never participates in the documentary. Well, of course, like, it's like it's always a who done it. And when they. When it's finally revealed, it's like that person isn't in the documentary. So as they're going through all the people, and it's like, is it this friend? Is it that friend? And then all the friends show up in the documentary. I'm like, okay, well, it's obviously not them. They're participating in the show. They're participating in the documentary. So I texted you. I was like, I'm thinking, I'm thinking it's a creepy teacher. Like, I'm thinking it's a creepy teacher that, like, fell in love with Owen. Owen. Fucking hottest guy in Beals. Beale City. Beale City, Yeah. This guy. Hot commodity. Everybody, Everybody wanted a sewing, even the girls in other towns. And I was like, ah, maybe creepy teacher, whatever. And then when it spun back around to the FBI Getting involved and it being her fucking mom. I was like, you got to be kidding me. It's. It's sick. And I forget what that guy's title was. Was he the. Like, I forget what he was. Prosecute something. One of the guys, he was like, I think this is like Internet Munchausens. Like, it's like technology based Munchausens.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Fran]

Which you.

[Ria]

One of the sickest things I have ever seen. This mom needs to be put away.

[Fran]

Yeah, she was.

[Ria]

No, but like forever.

[Fran]

No, I know, it's crazy. The fact really is crazy. It's like, it's like technically in our. In our society, like, she served her time, she's out.

[Ria]

Yeah. But the fact that this woman is running amok still, like in able to contact her daughter. And honestly, somebody needs to get through the. Through to the daughter. I know that this was talked about and the daughter was like, you know, I don't care what people say, I still don't have a relationship with my mom. Somebody needs to get through to her.

[Fran]

No, that's asap.

[Ria]

Because this woman is terrifying. Genuinely. How sick in the head can you be as a human being? Like, and then she's talking.

[Fran]

May need to get a call from Gypsy Rose.

[Ria]

Yeah. And then she's. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. Like, and then she's talking.

[Fran]

Obviously not to that level.

[Ria]

Yeah, you're telling. She should.

[Fran]

I mean, this. Your. Your mom's telling you to kill yourself a lot.

[Ria]

Your mom told you to kill her yourself. Like, on top of every other bizarre, disgusting thing she said, she told you to kill yourself multiple, endless times.

[Fran]

And then when the mom also was like, when they asked her, like, were you afraid of her, like, actually doing this? And the mom was like, no, not really. It was like, what? She was so. She deranged.

[Ria]

It's really the head.

[Fran]

The whole thing was so creepy because then I like took myself out of it for a second too and was like, this is so creepy already. But the fact that this really is a recent thing and they're both partisan. Like, everyone's participating in this documentary and the mom is doing it and the daughter and they're, they're like. I was just thinking of the process of filming this and reenacting all these scenes that they were doing and like, walking with the phone out and the mom walking around the house and like, sad face looking on the couch. I mean, there's a whole nother level of psycho when you go through all of this and then you're like, yeah, I'm gonna sit down and like reenact all this and people are gonna watch it for a documentary.

[Ria]

It's so, so, so disgusting. Literally mind blowing. I mean, the poor dad, the poor fucking dad.

[Fran]

She lied about her jobs, all of it, like everything. This woman is so sick.

[Ria]

She needs to be like, no, really taken away from society because it's so next level.

[Fran]

Like the rash, the rationalizations she was trying to make. At one point she was saying, you know, I committed a crime and there are other people out there. It's like, oh, you know, you run a red light, like commit a crime, like basically like comparing it to these like traffic violations and things of, or other, you know, low level crimes of like. Yeah. And then, and then you get in trouble. And she was like, some people get caught. Some people do it and they don't get caught, you know, and they just go about living their life. Some people do it, they do get caught. She's like, I got caught. Like, I, I, you know, and I'm gonna, It was like, no, no, no, no, no, no, we're not, there's no comparison.

[Ria]

No, it's not funny. But you, you laugh when you're watching this woman because it's so insane. Genuinely one of the most shocking.

[Fran]

Sending the daughter from jail. And just like that, that girl, my heart breaks for her because she's like, you know, I'm down to mend this relationship with my mom. Like, why? Why literally?

[Ria]

In what world?

[Fran]

Oh, so like I was, I couldn't therapy. I hope that she is it right. Like I, they didn't even really say no. I wasn't like, I'm trying to work through this. It's like, oh, what?

[Ria]

Don't you think this is like one of the most shocking documentaries you've ever seen?

[Fran]

And they're like, also in the same school.

[Ria]

It's wild.

[Fran]

Crazy.

[Ria]

And then Owen and she's just walking.

[Fran]

Around, she's like, yeah, me and, me and Owen don't talk anymore. Talking to each other in the, in.

[Ria]

The hallway, they don't talk. It's all the mom ruined everything. And then think about being Owen's parents. Yeah. Like, yeah, there's so many levels to this. And then, oh, and then you had Owen's parents blame Chloe and they're, they're texting me like, I know it's Chloe.

[Fran]

I know. I, I. And at a certain level too, I was like, they really let these texts go on for so long. At what point is it like, I know you want to find out who's doing it. Throw the phones in the trash.

[Ria]

Well, this is what Matt said, and I thought this was a good idea that they just didn't do was get them new phones. Yeah. Only give the new number to the people they're closest to. And then if the texts start coming, then, you know, it's like, process of elimination.

[Fran]

Totally.

[Ria]

But they just let them keep their phones. Like, the police were like, are you gonna get them a new phone? Yeah, because they couldn't block it because it's coming from secondary app. Every time they block, new number would come, which I understand, but I'm like, get them a new number. Get them new phones. Went on for almost two years. Yeah.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Ria]

But it's hard to say what you would do in that situation when you're trying to find out.

[Fran]

Right. Because they're like, at that point, they knew it had to have been someone that really knew them. So, like, the paranoia you must live with is so crazy. You know, I thought we're, like, kind of. Also gave me a chuckle, too, were Chloe's parents. Because obviously, like, they've been through a lot as well. But towards the end, like, Chloe's parents were like, I nailed this thing. From the beginning, we knew she was a creep. Like, you know, they're like. We were like, they failed. They failed this whole investigation. But from the beginning, we were like, you're looking at the mom or what?

[Ria]

Yeah. And they were like. They're like, yeah, Chloe's popular in different schools. People are jealous.

[Fran]

Big reach. I think they said, friend group has a big reach.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Fran]

No, but I look it. That is so. It's so scary. It's so terrifying real for a second. People like this exist.

[Ria]

Like, it's straight up people like this.

[Fran]

And these, like, these poor children, not only, you know, Lauren and Owen and everything that they had to deal with, but all the other girls that were potentially framed or getting questioned by the police, like, all these things. The poor, poor cousin who was also, like, damaged. Like, Adriana just seemed like, who was maybe just going, shy girl. Shy girl had trouble making friends in school, maybe, and. And now she's getting dragged into this. A lot of, like, profiling that these people are just like, oh, I bet you it's her. It's like, what? From what?

[Ria]

No.

[Fran]

No basis.

[Ria]

You could have started that documentary and never. I would have named 20 people before I ever named the mom.

[Fran]

I waited to text you, like, 20 minutes after the mom said it was her, because I was like, is there gonna be some twist where it's actually not the mom? Like, I like, Was waiting for, like, it can't be her. Like, it can't actually be her. What actually happened? And then she kept saying too, like, I didn't start it. I wasn't the first one to say absolutely started it. I just, I just, you know, jumped on the train.

[Ria]

It's like, what?

[Fran]

He's like, no, no, you just jumped.

[Ria]

On the text bandwagon.

[Fran]

You sent all the texts.

[Ria]

1000. Absolute freak. I believe that she sent those messages. Yeah, like from the beginning.

[Fran]

Oh, I do. Too big. I do too. Because you don't get to the level.

[Ria]

It's like bounce around, like, oh, I didn't start it.

[Fran]

Well, it's not like you see them and you're like, oh, this is fun. Let me what the up.

[Ria]

You started about creaming all the time.

[Fran]

I don't know.

[Ria]

Accurately described by me.

[Fran]

Yeah, yeah.

[Ria]

Those were disgusting. No, it was disturbing all around.

[Fran]

No, the whole thing was actually so.

[Ria]

A shocking, disturbing documentary. And even if you listen to this and got it spoiled, still watch it. It will still blow your mind even if, you know. Yeah, I agree.

[Fran]

It really was just like absolutely terrifying.

[Ria]

So, so terrifying.

[Fran]

And we'll leave you guys on that.

[Ria]

Note, a very happy go. Lucky note that somebody's mother was sending them these disgusting.

[Fran]

Harassing them.

[Ria]

Harassing stalking messages concerning text messages. Yeah.

[Fran]

No.

[Ria]

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[Fran]

All right, everyone, we are here with.

[Ria]

A very, very special guest.

[Fran]

Super exciting.

[Ria]

We are joined by co hosts of Dancing with the Stars, Julianne Hough. Thank you so much for joining us. We're super excited. We've wanted you on the show for a long time, and we cannot wait to discuss everything. Dancing with the Stars and you. So thanks for joining us.

[Julianne Hough]

Thank you. I'm pumped to be here. I love both of you so much, and I can't wait. Like, I'm on this couch.

[Fran]

I know with Beulah, you can't see Dobby, but he's on the other side, too.

[Julianne Hough]

Weirdly, I actually dressed like Dobby for Halloween one year.

[Fran]

That's a fun.

[Ria]

That's a great costume.

[Julianne Hough]

I was on my way to Hawaii to meet my friends, and I was like, I have nothing to wear. Give me one sock. And I had, like, a. Like, a little calf tan or whatever.

[Fran]

I was, like, done. Perfect.

[Ria]

It's about that time where you got to start thinking of what you're gonna be for Halloween.

[Julianne Hough]

I know.

[Fran]

That is so true.

[Julianne Hough]

It's true.

[Fran]

Oh, I'm not ready for that yet. Not ready for that yet. But what I am ready for is a new season of Dancing with the Stars. Massive announcement. We have the full cast reveal. Maybe one of the best casts we have had in a while. Like, I know it just keeps getting.

[Julianne Hough]

Better and better, but I know every year we're like, it's the best cast we've ever had. But truly this year, I. I really think it is. I think that the. The dynamic of. And variety and versatility of all of the people are incredible. But also, like, I'm rooting for, like, well, I am the host, so I'm Switzerland. I root for everyone. But at the same time, I can really see, like, a bunch of frontrunners. It's not just, like, one or two. You're like, oh, my gosh. It literally could be anybody's at this point.

[Fran]

And it's a lot of, like, sweethearts. You know, sometimes with the cast, you get maybe some polarizing people that stir the pot a little bit. But you go down the line of this, you're like, oh, just sweetheart. Sweetheart. After sweetheart.

[Julianne Hough]

It's true. There was one person that was really close to making it that would have been very polarizing.

[Ria]

Can you tease us a little more.

[Julianne Hough]

You know, once we're off?

[Fran]

Yeah, you know, that's.

[Ria]

Everyone's got me jealous of that, but.

[Fran]

Everyone gets so excited for this cast. What was the name that really popped to you the most?

[Julianne Hough]

Honestly, I think the fact that, like, Alex was announced first or not first, but Robert was. But. But that was amazing because I feel like the way that Dancing with the Stars in the last few years has shaped up is become this whole lore and, like, TikTok and, like, the social media personalities. And, like, I just was like, oh, wow, they're really, like, Dancing with Stars is leaning in, and we're. We're about to, like, have this new generation of people coming and watching the show. So I felt like, just as, like, for the show, I feel like Alex is such a great person to bring new audience members to the show, but also, like, I mean, Dylan is gonna be great. Everybody loves him. He was so great on Traitors. I feel like everybody's, like, rooting for him. I mean, we've got Lauren. I feel like the. The Mormon Housewives. Like, I think that it is gonna get really competitive with those two because they're both great dancers.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Julianne Hough]

And so, I don't know. I just think it's. It's great.

[Ria]

There are so many added elements to this. Like, like you said about Alex Earl being in it.

[Julianne Hough]

Yeah.

[Ria]

We're already following along with her on TikTok. Her talking about going to rehearsals and practices more so than we've seen years prior. You guys, Even though last year kind.

[Julianne Hough]

Of ramped up 20 years that this show has been on and, you know, 34 seasons, nobody has ever talked about the show as consistently when the season's not even going as it has this last year. Like, everybody is so interested in it. And, like, I'm finding out things on TikTok that I didn't even know were happening. So it's pretty great.

[Ria]

Right? And the drama, too, because you saw a lot of drama, you know, off camera behind the scenes last year with the people that were on the show. And then this time you mentioned the Mormon wives.

[Julianne Hough]

Yeah.

[Ria]

You know. You know that those two are gonna be fighting, and it's gonna be on the next season of Secret Wives, and then we're gonna still be talking about Dancing with the Stars.

[Julianne Hough]

It's true. It's true.

[Fran]

It really is. And it's so fun to get to see all the behind the scenes. Like you said, watching, like, Alex's videos of I'm getting ready for practice and all these things. It is, like, a totally new feel. How do you feel about, like. Cause you've been there from the beginning, what it's like now with such A shift to, like, this very social media forward show when it really. Obviously, I mean, social media didn't exist, but, you know.

[Julianne Hough]

Yeah, I mean, I feel like it's. It's that thing where you're like, I'm either gonna join it or I'm gonna be left behind. And I think when, like, the first season that I came back as a host, I was like, oh, my gosh, this is so. This is like another show. It almost feels like we're doing two separate shows at the same time. And it felt like a lot. And then after, like, it started becoming more normal. Then we're like, oh, no, this is what people want to see. Back when I was on the show as a dancer, we had two shows a week. And so there was much more, like, the confessionals room where we would, like, share more. The packages that we would have were much longer, and you would show more of the rehearsal. And we do these, like, fun packages. So I think it. What it's doing is what we used to do on the show, but it's. It's on personal accounts, you know, and so now you're getting, like, just again, more widespread and you're keeping up with the times. I think that's the biggest thing is, like, people who are not invested in it are just gonna get like, yeah, right.

[Ria]

It's like almost like the saying, you can't beat them, join them.

[Julianne Hough]

Yeah.

[Ria]

It's like, well, you know what? We gotta lean into exactly what's going on now, what people are into now.

[Julianne Hough]

And it is social media and find your. Like, not just do it because you want to stay relevant. Like, you have to do it in an authentic way. So, like, what is my. Why am I doing this? Not because I have to, but because I, like, I'm gonna find joy out of it.

[Fran]

And it does feel like the cast members now are coming on to pull from another. Like, coming on for all the right reasons. Like, they're like, you know, they want to be on Dancing with the Stars.

[Julianne Hough]

Oh, yeah.

[Fran]

It's not like it means more.

[Julianne Hough]

It does.

[Fran]

It seems now, which is. Which is really fun.

[Julianne Hough]

I'm getting DMs from, like, random celebrities being like, can you get me on the show? I'm like, I can't. But, like, I love that you want to do the show.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Julianne Hough]

You know, like, again, like, not to talk badly at all, but, like, in past years, it was always sort of like, oh, the celebrities that we don't really know who they are, but they're making a comeback, you know, and like, this time around, it's like, people are literally begging to be on the show.

[Fran]

Exactly. Like, I mean, it's when you get people like, you know, Alex Earl, who is her, is talked about so much. When you hear a young voice being like, no, no, no. I'm dying to go on Dancing with the Stars, like, that obviously changes the game for. For the show. TikToks, we've been getting some teases from some of the cast, so it has been fun seeing the full list, because I know people have had their suspicions of who's going to do it. Like, hilarious. Baldwin is on this cast.

[Julianne Hough]

Yes.

[Fran]

And, you know, she's been posting all these videos of her dad.

[Julianne Hough]

Like, I'm not. I'm not kidding. Like, that was a campaign, and she won. Like, she. She was doing that all separately. She was not a part of the show until later. Like, she was campaigning, and she got on. Like, that's awesome.

[Fran]

I really advise her to, like, she, like, you know what? I'm Alec, stand right here. I'm gonna dance around you.

[Ria]

I love it.

[Fran]

And it worked out. It worked out perfectly.

[Julianne Hough]

I'm really excited for them because I. I did Rock of Ages with Alec, and, like, just. He's so sweet and so fun, and, like, I'm sure he's gonna be in the audience and everything. And so I'm like, oh, reunion. That'll be good. Know, she used to dance as well. She dated Eugene Katzeman, who was like, a proper, like, Latin dancer who lives here in New York. And so, like, it's. It's fun.

[Fran]

Like, it's gonna be so interesting.

[Julianne Hough]

All the, like, the conversations people are gonna have behind the scenes are gonna be great because they're already having conversations, and I get to just listen to all of it.

[Ria]

Right. As a. As a host now, do you ever miss being a dancer on the show, or are you, like, you know what? I like watching from afar.

[Julianne Hough]

You know, I mean, look, I. Once a dancer, always a dancer. I got to, like, you know, bust a move last season, and that was amazing. And. But I think in this season of my life, I love watching other people shine. And so. And also, like, I don't have to be, you know, working seven days a week and, like, choreographing, teaching, being emotional support. Like, it's like, it's a. It is intense. And I have so much respect for the dancers and what they do, and I love that, you know, Alfonso and I get to, like, show up and root for them, you know, and almost like, mama, you know, energy instead yeah. So it's good. I love being a host and judging was really fun too. But similarly, like, we were always separated when we were judging. We weren't like involved with the cast. So this one, I'm like, oh, I'm like a part of it throughout the whole season. We get to know each other. I, you know, before I wasn't allowed to talk to anybody, so. Right.

[Fran]

So would you, would you say this version of your involvement in the show is kind of your favorite? Of what?

[Julianne Hough]

Of what you've done different seasons.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Julianne Hough]

Right. Like in this season, this is my favorite. Obviously. When I was 18 and dancing, it was the greatest time of my life. It was very much like Riley arnold. I was 18 on the show and won my first two seasons. And it really was like an overnight thing. I was like, I just graduated from high school and I got on the show and it was like, Whoa, 20 million viewers were watching every week when people only watch TV and like social media didn't exist. And then watching her, her rise like that, I was like, wow, that was such a, that was such like a parallel moment. And I'm like, watching her blow up is just like, it was just, it was reminiscent almost of that. And I'm like, honestly, in like a weird way, not protective at all. Like, she's got her, she's great. She's doing just fine. But also like, oh, I, you know, like, I know that feeling. And going from like this to this overnight is. It's kind of a weird whiplash moment.

[Fran]

Definitely.

[Julianne Hough]

Yeah.

[Fran]

What's it like for, you know, like you said similar ages, especially when you, you know, you started and now Riley and Riley we've really only seen with like, younger partners. Now she does have Scott from Pentatonix, which is different from them, what we've seen from her. What was your experience like, you know, dancing with guys that maybe were a little bit older than you and that whole, you know, experience?

[Julianne Hough]

Well, so my first partner was Apollo Ono, so we were kind of like similar age. We were like the cute, the cute little couple, you know. And then I did dance with a, you know, Elio Castronovez, which he was a little bit older but still had like young energy. My third partner was Adam Carolla, and that was very different. I was like a 19 year old at the time and he was like this older man who is very like, you know, a comedic. But I think they are going to be such a great match because, I mean, his energy is so infectious. I can't wait to watch what they do. Too, because they're just. Yeah, they're just like these gorgeous, bubbly, infectious, like, magnetizing people. And they're gonna play. They're gonna have fun.

[Ria]

Right? And I think more than ever right now, we're seeing a lot of people who are voicing their opinion on who should be paired up with who. Yeah, it's like, I think people are happy that Riley is paired up with somebody new. A little different than past seasons. But, I mean, the conversation surrounding who is paired up with you.

[Julianne Hough]

Oh, yeah.

[Ria]

Behind the scenes, are you nervous for people to see that before it comes out? Because you're like, ooh, I don't know if people are gonna be happy about this one.

[Julianne Hough]

I don't know. I think there was a lot of, like, rumors that, like, Robert and Riley were gonna be together. I think that they did a great job at casting Scott and Riley and Whitney and Robert, I think. I don't know. I just. I feel like that great job casting, like, obviously would have been great the other way as well, but maybe a little bit more on the nose and, like, these two young birds. But I. But I'm like, I love. I love how the casting is paired.

[Fran]

Right now when the cast shows up and the stars go, are they really. You know, we always see the videos of them opening the door and they're, oh, my God, this is who I wanted to. Are they really finding that out at that time?

[Julianne Hough]

I mean, I think so. They might, like, find out right beforehand. I know that some of the dancers, like, look, it's been 20 years, so, like, there's ways and there's relationships now where you're like, can you just, like, give me a little hint? You know? But I think. I think there is. I don't think that the celebrities know who their partner is for sure. Sometimes I think the dancers find out a little bit beforehand or prep for.

[Fran]

Them to go into it.

[Julianne Hough]

Yeah, I think so.

[Fran]

Prepare themselves or what kind of teacher they have to be.

[Julianne Hough]

Yeah, exactly. One of. One of the things that was funny, though, I don't know if it was Daniella. We were chatting, and she's like, can we all decide that we're gonna wear normal clothes on the first meeting instead of, like, some of us are, like, in normal clothes. And then the celebrities come in in, like, gym shorts and, you know, bad socks and stuff, and, like, can we just all, like. So that was, like, a funny, like, behind the scenes moment where, like, nobody's telling us what we're actually supposed to be doing. This first meeting. We're not Dancing. We're just meeting, and Daniela's like, I want to look cute.

[Ria]

I don't want to, you know.

[Julianne Hough]

And then my partner shows up in gym shorts, like, come on. Right?

[Fran]

You're like, let's be. Let's match a little bit.

[Julianne Hough]

Yeah, exactly. So those are, like, first meeting things that you're like, you would never think of that, but. Yeah, but I'm so excited. I think this season also, like, this is my third season hosting. And so the first season I'm, like, a little bit nervous. Second season, I, like, dropped in a little bit more. This season I'm like, oh, it feels like home again, and I'll fly. Alfonso and I just. We love each other, so that'll be really fun too.

[Fran]

I was gonna ask what the, you know, chemistry has been like for you two working together, and how do you feel like you now, like you said, going into a third season, the two of you are gonna hit your stride. I mean, love all the dance promos that you guys get to do together are so fun.

[Julianne Hough]

Well, I think the best part is that, like, him and his wife Angela, like, we speak the same language outside of the show too. So, like, they are very big in, like, personal development and, like, you know, eating healthy and, like, you know, more like mystical spirituality and stuff. So, like, we just, like, totally vibe in that sense. So. Yeah, so, like, when we're. When we're on set, we're just like. We're just like, we got. We're on the same page.

[Ria]

And.

[Julianne Hough]

Yeah, so it's. It's fun. And then again, like, I mean, we've. We've been on the show for so many years that the same camera operators, the lighting designers, costume designers, I mean, they've been my family since I was 18 years old. And, like, we've grown up together. And I don't know any other show that has been on this long that can say, like, I'm obsessed with my family. And, like, you know, there's always a few people in the family where you're like, you know what? Sometimes you don't get to pick them, but they're a part of the family.

[Fran]

That's Uncle Joe. We just deal with them.

[Julianne Hough]

But it really is. It's such a good group of people. And, yeah, it's the best.

[Ria]

And you've been doing it, like you said, since 18. You've been a part of this big family. Is there any moment that stands out to you as your all time favorite Dancing with the Stars moment?

[Julianne Hough]

Oh, my gosh. All time favorite.

[Ria]

You could Pick one from hosting, one from dancing.

[Julianne Hough]

Okay, so from hosting, I would say, like, I loved my. My man in finance dance that I got to do last season. That was like, super fun and epic. And the funny story about that is that because this new generation is watching the show, they were like, I didn't even know she danced, you know? And my brother.

[Fran]

That's so crazy.

[Julianne Hough]

Yeah. And my brother was so cute. He like, repost. And she's like, oh, don't. You know, don't get it wrong. Like, this is the OG Bitch.

[Ria]

You know, like, people need to be reminded. Well, that was like when you interviewed Timothee Chalamet on the carpet, and you.

[Julianne Hough]

Were the most cringe moment of my life.

[Ria]

No, but you were asking about his dance moves.

[Julianne Hough]

He was like, what?

[Ria]

And Timothee Chalamet was like, what? And then people were like, what a random question. And I saw people going nuts on TikTok being like, she is a dancer. It is the most fitting question. I'm like, exactly.

[Julianne Hough]

Oh, my gosh. That. Truly. I was like, that was horrible.

[Fran]

But.

[Julianne Hough]

But you know what? Like, whatever. It was something that people talked about. And I always say, like, you know what? Be cringe. Like you're. You're at least putting yourself out there, like, whatever.

[Ria]

Not even cringy. You're a dancer.

[Fran]

It actually made a lot of sense.

[Julianne Hough]

It was just. It is.

[Fran]

There we are dealing with this younger generation that just literally only see things off social media and TikTok. It's like. Like, when we watch that. When we would watch Love island, people be like, this host is great. And we're like, people are going back to watch Vanderpump. They were like, they don't know who she is. Which is crazy to us because it's like, well, what. How could that. How could that be the case?

[Ria]

And also, everything is cringe to people now. Like, they'll be like, cringe, cringe. You're like, there's.

[Fran]

Yeah, yeah.

[Ria]

It's not.

[Fran]

It's not at all. What about f. I mean, winning, obviously, I'm sure is up there for.

[Julianne Hough]

But as a pro, so as a pro. Oh, my favorite moment. I actually, it was my. I like to call. It was like my coming out party like, moment. It was when I did the samba with Apollo Ohno and I was wearing this tiger outfit that was like this little, like, body suit, and I had big hair and it was the. We got our first tens and it was epic. It was really great. So that was like my favorite moment of that. And then judging. I Don't know. I think just honestly, to get sentimental, like, just sitting next to Len and like Carrie Ann and Bruno and like, I've known Len since I was 10 years old and grew up dancing for him and being judged by him taking lessons. And so it was just cool as like a full circle moment of this is where I started. And I'm sitting next to you as, you know, like equals in the sense that we're, you know. Yeah. A part of this show that is bringing ballroom dancing to the world in a commercial, public way. That was so niche and was like such a weird hobby to do as a kid. And so, yeah, it was just. It was. That was probably my coolest moment was just like. And also like being backstage with Bruno and his tighty whities, smoking a cigarette and like, like that was my life too, right?

[Ria]

Oh, my God. Amazing.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Ria]

Do you feel with hosting, I mean, with judging, there comes a little bit more of judging from the outside as well towards being a judge. Because we see it now with your brother Derek, you know, it can. It can come with criticism, being a judge, because sometimes people are unhappy with the criticism you give.

[Julianne Hough]

Yes. No, that's. That's a huge thing because at the end of the day too, like, you. You wanna. It's like anything, you wanna give the right feedback. You don't wanna over pump somebody up. You wanna actually give them the score that is deserving, give them the correction and then see if they can grow from that. And so, you know, you don't want to over inflate people, but yet it's a show. And we were having this conversation the other day because one of our other choreographer friends was judging this competition and usually it's all like, you know, nobody sees the marks or whatever. And this one was like televised and on screen and she's like, I get it. I absolutely get it. You, like, you write a five and then all of a sudden you're like, I'll write a seven. Because you're like, oh, my gosh. The pressure to, like, make sure everybody's happy. But I think the. The key is, like, you have to just be honest. And if you're gonna get criticism, you're gonna get criticism. But integrity always wins. And I think with people actually having the controversy, it does give something, you know, to talk about. And so, yeah, whatever.

[Ria]

Absolutely. It brings people into the conversation.

[Julianne Hough]

Exactly. Because disagreeing if everybody's doing the same.

[Ria]

Disagreeing is great. When you're watching, watching tv because it makes you watch even more.

[Julianne Hough]

Well, it's like, debates. It's like you. The reason why debates are so fun to watch is because you have polarizing views and you get to figure out where you stand in it.

[Ria]

You're yelling at the tv. Exactly.

[Julianne Hough]

Exactly.

[Fran]

Was there ever, like, an extra added toughness for you? And I'm sure maybe, like, it goes for Derek as well. Now, where you are now sitting at the judges table and these pros are all like, you're your peers and friends. And you're like. And they're like, okay, let's hear. What do you have to say?

[Julianne Hough]

Well, that was what was kind of funny when I was judging, because I was judging my brother at the time, and everybody's like, ah, she's gonna be like, so nice on, you know, on him. I was like, whatever. I was harder on him because I didn't want there to be, like, favoritism. But I think the big thing is you're not really judging the pro. You are looking at the celebrity and how they can improve. Sometimes it's hard, though, when you're like, man, like, you know, the pro, you did not highlight, you know, your partner well, or you just sat for 30 seconds and didn't let them dance. And now we're gonna have to mark them because of your decision like that. That's sometimes hard. And so, yeah, so sometimes it gets a little tricky with, like, the pros and stuff. But most of the time, it's truly just about judging the celebrity.

[Ria]

Right. And you said that when you're a judge, you know, you're kind of away from the cast and everybody else because, you know, you're the judge.

[Julianne Hough]

Totally.

[Ria]

What's it like for you during the season with Derek? Because, you know, he's judge, you're the host. You may know a little bit more. What's that?

[Julianne Hough]

Like, that's true. Like, I don't know. Like. Cause they have the trailers outside. Like, Alfonso and I are inside, and then the cast are on the other side. So it's like everybody's kind of separated. But Alfonso and I, we show up the day before, we're hanging out during camera blocking. We're engaging with them. But, yeah, like, I know some of the secrets of being a judge. And so, like, we get to kind of, like, chat through certain things that even Alfonso doesn't know because he hasn't been in that seat.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Julianne Hough]

So it's kind of fun. I feel like I have all the secrets.

[Fran]

Yes, you are the key holder of.

[Ria]

Dancing with the Stars.

[Fran]

Has it been key for you to, like, have your brother along this ride with you and. And whether it's as pros together, judges, pros, hosts, judge. It's like you guys have done so many different iterations of it, but always have stayed within that, you know, Dancing with the Stars family.

[Julianne Hough]

Yeah, it's so funny. Our first thing that we ever did with, like, Dancing with the Stars was we were both on the live tour before I was ever on the show. And I was on the show a season before he was on. So we were on this tour and Carrie Ann actually was the one that choreographed everything. And she got us to do a rumba together. You guys, that is the dance of love.

[Fran]

Right, right, right.

[Julianne Hough]

That my brother and I had to dance together. And so our names in the program were Derek and Julianne Hough. So everybody thought we were married and we were doing this rumba and it's like, you know, anyway, when people found out we were brother and sister, I remember specifically there was one venue where we were dancing and we just heard, that's just raw.

[Ria]

Oh, my God.

[Julianne Hough]

That was like our first. And then like, Carrie Ann to this day, she's like, I'm sorry I made you guys dance the rumba. But anyway, so that's Carrie Ann.

[Fran]

Thanks.

[Ria]

We got this label, now we're like.

[Julianne Hough]

Game of Thrones, but we. But that was kind of like our first experience. And then if you watch our careers, we've been kind of like parallel pathing it and it was a joke. We did a tour together where we had this like, sibling rivalry moment where it was like, I won two times on Dance with the Stars. Well, I won six. And then I was like, well, I start in Grease live. Well, I start in Hairspray live. Well, I started judging. Well, I started judging. And I'm like, what are you gonna do now? Host? And now he's the host of Extra so.

[Fran]

But kind of following indoors.

[Julianne Hough]

Yes, baby girl.

[Ria]

Exactly.

[Julianne Hough]

But I think, you know, jokes aside, it's really cool that we get to do similar things in our own way. We're definitely unique. We share, you know, we're cut from the same cloth, so there's a lot of similar energy. But like, like, we're very different. And yeah, it's so funny. My brother is a lot more like Julianne, like, don't show your belly. And like, I'm like, derek, zip it. Like, okay, dad. You know, like, we have like those moments, but he's just like, I just don't want, like, you know, people saying anything about you. I was like, I don't care. I literally do not care.

[Ria]

It's like, I've been doing this since I'm 18.

[Julianne Hough]

Yeah. And so like, he's cute, he's very protective, and I'm like a little bit of a wrecking ball for him. So it's, it's fun, makes it exciting.

[Fran]

And he's gonna be a dad.

[Caller]

I know.

[Fran]

How excited are you excited for him and Haley?

[Julianne Hough]

Honestly, like, they sent me an image basically of like a wax melting baby.

[Fran]

Because, you know, like, what am I looking at?

[Ria]

Like, oh, yeah, that's coming from you guys.

[Julianne Hough]

But it was like, honestly the cutest. I mean, the nose looks like his nose, the little lips look like her lips. And like, it's like, oh my gosh, this baby. I can't wait to see what they look like. And yeah, I, I've been an aunt since I was 11, so I'm not like, new to this.

[Fran]

Yes.

[Julianne Hough]

But as an adult, being in a different stage of life and having a newborn baby, that's my brother who I'm so close with. I mean, they're gonna get really annoyed with me, like, can I come over?

[Ria]

Oh my God, Yeah.

[Julianne Hough]

But Haley did FaceTime me the other day and she's like, hey, you know, like, you're so good at design and stuff like that. Would you want to help me design the baby room? And I was like, yes, I would love that.

[Ria]

Absolutely.

[Julianne Hough]

I know. I was like, I feel like you're proposing to me right now. But yes, I will absolutely help.

[Ria]

That is so exciting. Yeah. Congratulations to all of you. Thank you. You mentioned, you know, the different paths and how much dance has opened up so many different avenues for you. Tv, film, Broadway. What has been the most shocking thing that you've done?

[Julianne Hough]

You think, oh my gosh. Well, it's kind of crazy. Cause I mean, I haven't really told this story because I just kind of came to it the other day. I've actually achieved all of my siblings dreams. My oldest sister wanted to be on Broadway. My second sister wanted to be a country star. My third sister, she wanted to be an actress. And then Derek was obviously a ballroom dancer. And I was like, oh, wow. Like I, I think I, like they were all like, you know, the model of what was possible. And I just wanted to follow in their footsteps or, you know, like, we could talk trauma, but like, I just want to, I just want to be included.

[Fran]

And it was cool because they liked it.

[Julianne Hough]

Yeah, exactly, exactly. And so what's interesting is like, I've done so many things in my career and I think, you know, I'm 37 now, and I'm like, okay, here's all the titles that I've done. I've been a dancer, actor, singer, host, author, entrepreneur. But those are all things that I do. And I think now I'm sort of like, well, who am I without all the things that I do? And what I realized is, like, when I was younger and I was like, seven, I was like, I just wanted to try everything. I just wanted to be a student. And I love anything that's athletic and physical, that's through the body. So, like, I just started surfing and, like, I love rock climbing and, like, anything that's, like, a bit of a challenge. So. Not. I didn't answer your question at all. But, like. But, like, as far as the. Like, I don't know what I like more because I think I'm sort of that, like, Jack of all Trades, master of none kind of thing. But, like. But I think the mastery is. What is the end of that line? I don't know. We always forget that line. But it's like. But the mastery is that you can do it a little. Whatever.

[Ria]

Right.

[Julianne Hough]

So I think, like, I don't know, it just kind of depends on what mood I'm in.

[Ria]

Right. Like, at different times, you may love this and the next one. You love that. Exactly.

[Julianne Hough]

And, like, I tend to immerse myself fully into something, and then I'm like, cool. I felt like I completed that, and now I want to go try something new.

[Fran]

Is there anything that you've done, you know, like you said, with music, tv, film, Broadway? Is there anything that you would like to go back to?

[Julianne Hough]

I mean, all of it. Like, I. You know, I want to continue doing all of the things that I cycles through.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Julianne Hough]

That I love. I think it's a different. A different. Why now? You know, I think, like, before it was much more like, how good can I be at it? Versus, like, is this really coming from me? And, like, my fulfillment of it? And so, like, I would love to do music again in a different way. I would love to pick roles that, you know, fulfill me in a different, more challenging way versus, kind of, I would do a lot of, like, the same roles in films that would be sort of like the girl running away from something terrible in her life and then finding love. That was.

[Ria]

She dances.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Julianne Hough]

And then she dances and sings Story by Nicole Sparks.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Julianne Hough]

And I was like, oh, is that my life? So I'm like, maybe I could play some characters versus just my life. Yeah.

[Fran]

That's also so fair. Well, we Loved watching all that, too. And we love watching you on Dancing with the Stars. I think you and Alfonso really just do such an amazing job with the show. Now we do have a one last question brought to you by Armani Beauty. We have this beautiful gift bag for you to take home with you. The one thing that we didn't touch on that I do want to ask you about about this new season is we do have a new pro.

[Julianne Hough]

Yes.

[Fran]

Which, you know, changes it up a bit. We're not, like, we're very comfortable with our pros. Throw in a new one. We're like, what's going on with this?

[Julianne Hough]

Totally.

[Fran]

Who is this new pro? What can you tell us about him? Because we've seen everyone on Social freaking.

[Julianne Hough]

Out about him, of course. Okay, so Jan, and he is an incredible dancer. Obviously, most people know him from Taylor Swift because he was one of her dancers on her ERAS tour and definitely made a splash.

[Fran]

Yes.

[Julianne Hough]

He also was, you know, at the Oscars and danced with Margaret Qualley for that big number. And he's just. He's just a beautiful dancer. I think what's going to be really interesting and is he's such a versatile dancer. He's gonna bring so much. Obviously, Ballerman Latin is, like, the main focus here, but he's an incredible choreographer in contemporary, and so to see his new energy and flavor. By the way, back in the day when we started Dancing with the Stars, the pros were so competitive with each other. It was another era. Nobody had kids. Everybody was going out and partying. Like, it was so intense. And, like, the. The competitiveness between the pros was, like, no joke. So now I'm like, I wonder what this dynamic is gonna bring in because, you know, like, people are gonna get competitive again. And there's. Now that, like, all of the pros have had kids and stuff, there's like, some new energy coming up of these, like, younger, you know, but there's no.

[Fran]

They still know each other. Even the youngest know each other dancing growing up. There's. There's married couples. There's couples dance. You know, it's so many. The dynamic is so different.

[Julianne Hough]

But I. But it's funny. Like, not in a negative way, but I do feel a sense of competitive, like, charge come back. Because, you know, Mark Ballas is back, and he is wildly competitive and not against people. It's more of, like, an internal competitiveness. But. But yeah, like, he's wildly competitive. And when you start feeling that in the air versus, like, let's have everybody be successful, you Know, it's like everybody wants everybody to win, but everybod. Everybody wants to win.

[Ria]

Right.

[Julianne Hough]

Like that again, that's the kind of energy that you want to feel. And, like, totally.

[Ria]

And you can feel it watching it. And, you know, they'll be happy for each other, but they want to beat them.

[Julianne Hough]

Yeah. And I think that that's okay.

[Ria]

Yes. That's what it should be about. Yeah, exactly. Friendly competition.

[Fran]

Sometimes everyone wants to win.

[Ria]

Yeah, exactly.

[Fran]

It's not shameful to say you want to win.

[Julianne Hough]

No, no.

[Ria]

You should want to be competitive.

[Fran]

Exactly. Julian, thank you so much for joining us here. So great. We can't wait for this new season of Dancing with the Stars to come out. 16th we went two years ago, and.

[Ria]

We want to go back.

[Fran]

It was your first season.

[Julianne Hough]

Okay.

[Fran]

And we went. Now I forget what night it was, but we had.

[Ria]

It was the night. It was the week after Disney.

[Julianne Hough]

Okay. Week after Disney. No clue.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Ria]

No, I just remember because we were upset about missing.

[Fran]

No, just because.

[Julianne Hough]

Yeah.

[Fran]

And then last season, we were invited to go Disney night. We couldn't go. Yeah, I'm very upset about that. So maybe this year, Disney.

[Ria]

Maybe this year.

[Fran]

Yeah, Exactly.

[Julianne Hough]

Well, please, please come visit.

[Fran]

I would love. We would love to. Thank you. Thank you so much.

[Julianne Hough]

Thank you.

[Fran]

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[Ria]

All right, let's get into the Popcorner, where we're going to take your Voicemail to how it takes your opinions, Noah. Let's hear the first one.

[Caller]

Hi. So mine's a semi turn pretty opinion. And I know. Fran, don't make the face. You gotta listen. Open ears. Okay, so Conrad's hero complex actually has ruined everyone's life. Not a hero complex. It's like a selfish complex. Because first off, his dad's cheating. He doesn't tell anyone. So Jer then idolizes his dad unknowingly. Then when his mom dies, he holds his dad closer. He's got just him and his brother, and his brother is very distant. So Conrad didn't protect his brother. He led him straight into his dad's arms. Number two, he doesn't tell anybody about his mom's cancer. And at the end of the season one, Conrad says Jer is the one who convinced his mom to get treatment. Had Conrad told them early on, maybe his mom would have gotten treatment earlier and wouldn't have died. So Conrad.

[Fran]

Holy moly.

[Caller]

And he didn't tell Belly that he loved her. So he basically let Jared pursue her and then stole her back, even though he didn't know anyone could have dated her and he would have been stealing them back. And last, he didn't tell anybody about. About selling the house. And guess who ends up helping Laurel. Conrad was completely useless in that situation. So he thinks that he's keeping secrets to help people, but he's actually complete opposite. And also him, like, not telling. You know, him telling Belly that Jared cheated was the only time he came clean on something, and it backfires. So. And that was the only selfish. That was a selfish act. So, you know, there's nothing worse than withholding information that's just as bad as cheating. So that's what Jer meant when he said you treated Belly like trash. So that was a lot. But, you know, I just think that, you know, they're both Jer and Conrad, both cheaters, and Jer learned it from Conrad, not his dad, because Garrett never knew about.

[Ria]

Well, they can't say withholding the information about Susanna dying is the same.

[Caller]

Yep, that's my hot take. Love you guys.

[Ria]

Love you, too.

[Fran]

Yeah. No, no, no.

[Ria]

We can't say that Conrad withholding information about Susanna dying and things about the house and things of that nature are the same as cheating.

[Fran]

No, they're not.

[Ria]

They're not the same thing.

[Fran]

They're. They're definitely not the same thing.

[Ria]

They're not the same thing.

[Fran]

I will say in the fact that, like, I think it was maybe what the third thing she said About Conrad, you know, not telling Belly he loved her and basically driving her into Jeremiah. Like, that, I think is pretty valid. That's the emotional unavailability. That's like him. He's also like a teenager at these points. Like, granted, now he is in the season that we're watching, you know, post college, wanting to be a doctor. But, like, those earlier seasons, like, season one, he is. They're all really young. And I think that especially when his mom was going through the treatment, like. And especially we. We hear those last. Like, Susanna telling him to always look out for Jeremiah and all these things. Like, I just think as a kid, it's a lot of pressure. And then you interpret that as, like, you have to protect him. And he just has a different definition of, like, protecting him. It's like, oh, he. Conrad's pissed that he has to know this stuff about his dad, but why does Jeremiah also have to have a bad relationship with him? So it is a bit of a hero complex. I do understand that, but I don't think the way she was framing it, I felt more that it came from a malicious place, and I don't think it really did. I think he was just so worked up in his own mind of, like. Like, now my mom's dead, and her dying wish was for me to protect Jeremiah and, like. And I don't want to ruin that relationship and all these things. And, like, being really torn between his feelings for Belly and, like, protecting Jeremiah. He made some mistakes, for sure, but there were times when I think he grew up as, like, oh, Conrad's perfect. Conrad's perfect. Conrad's perfect. And when you do have that pressure as a kid growing up, you do end up lying about that things and. And withholding the truth because you think, like, everybody has this perfect image of me. I can't ruin that. So. All right, that's my very deep analysis of a fictional show. You know, that's what we're here for. At the same time, it's like, I. I do appreciate the conversation about it, but sometimes I'm like, we need to, you know, rein it in a little bit, because it is. You know, it's not that deep sometimes.

[Ria]

Sometimes it's just the fun of, hey, we want Belly and Conrad to be together. Cause it's, you know, it's a.

[Fran]

For sure. It's just a story we want to, like, It's a story I want to happen.

[Ria]

It's just fictional.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Ria]

Fictional fun.

[Fran]

And I do think, you know, and he has grown in this season. Like, he Got fired. That's probably something that he would have never actually shared with his dad in previous years, but he did tell him that that's what happened. So there are moments where it's like he is trying to open up more.

[Ria]

A lot of it also, I think, stems from, like, when you watch the show, you're rooting for Belly and Conrad, or a lot of us are, because you know that Belly wants to be with Conrad.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Ria]

So you know what I mean? And sometimes it's not even just about the brothers or their qualities or the things about them. It's like, well, Belly really wants. You could tell she really likes Conrad, so we root for her to be with Conrad.

[Fran]

Yeah. And the first love trope is not something we're being introduced to for the first time. Like, there's so many things where it's like, so many shows or movies that you watch where you get so attached to, like, the first love. And the first love is they go and they date other people, but it's not the same. And then they reunite with their first love, and you're like, yes. Like, that's what you're rooting for, you know, so.

[Ria]

All right, moving on.

[Fran]

Yep.

[Caller]

Hi. Ria, Fran, Noah, and Olive. This is Olivia from Chicago. My hot take is that Justin and Haley are the new Victoria and David Beckham. And I could see them developing their family really similarly. And just the way that the press follows them and David and Justin's hair.

[Fran]

All of it. And the fact that David and Victoria's kids all kind of look like Justin Bieber.

[Ria]

Yeah. I must say that. That I could see it. I think David Beckham is quite different from Justin Bieber.

[Fran]

Fair. I think, solely from, like, the fact that they have, like, five kids and. Or four kids. How many do they have? 5. Brooklyn Romeo.

[Ria]

4. Three boys and a girl.

[Fran]

Yeah. Yeah. That they could just, like, have a similar family dynamic.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Fran]

You know, as the breakdown of, like, having more kids.

[Ria]

Right. And kind of just be, like, a super cool couple. Yeah. With a lot of tabloids following them.

[Fran]

I mean, Haley and Victoria, I think, do have a lot of similarities in just, like, trend setting.

[Ria]

For sure.

[Fran]

Blazing a trail.

[Ria]

Yes.

[Fran]

Being coming up with products and ideas that, like, everybody wants.

[Ria]

I could see that for sure.

[Fran]

New looks, new styles, new haircuts, all those things.

[Ria]

Totally.

[Fran]

You know.

[Ria]

Absolutely.

[Fran]

Yeah. Yeah. But, yeah, I think that's. I mean, David and. And Justin, not too much. Not too similar. Not too much, but I do get the comparison.

[Ria]

Yeah. Yeah, I can see it.

[Caller]

Hi, chick. This is Rhiann. From Connecticut. So my hot take is that Real Houses in Miami is by far the best show Bravo has right now. The characters on this show are insane. I have a few hot takes regarding it. I know Fran's been a hot watcher recently, but one that Julia adopted these two children and then just threw them on national television. Uses it almost as a point of why. Like, to emphasize that her other daughters don't talk to her anymore. Like, this is. I don't think this is how we should be going about this. Also, that Gertie literally survived cancer, but they're gonna do a girls trip for Alexia, who is getting divorced but isn't getting divorced and is still in love with her husband, and they're trying to stay together. Like, why does she get a trip but Gertie doesn't get a trip for surviving cancer. Well, let me know what you girls think, but this show is fantastic. Thank you.

[Ria]

Well, say you sold me.

[Fran]

I think you're so right. Miami is so good. These ladies are really out of their minds. This season for Julia has been insane because it really is. It's like she and Martina have been talking about adopting kids for a while. It's like, that's been part of Julia's storyline previous seasons. Like, her daughters are out of the house. It feels empty. She loved to have more kids and, like, doing that with Martina, and we didn't know if it would actually happen. And then, like, bam. This season, it's like, oh, they did it. They adopted two little boys. And then. And then she's like, yeah, so, you know, my daughters didn't really love the way we, like, went about this. And they're not really speaking to us right now, which makes me think that the communication there was not great, which is crazy, because once again, they were adopting children, which is wild that they wouldn't all be on the same page as a family. And then there's the Julia and Adriana drama. They were such good friends. And then now it's just like, Adriana thinks Julia's drinking the Kool Aid of being with the other girls and leaving her bestie behind. And Gertie, the girls, really. That is very true about, like, planning all these trips and doing all this. They're like, oh, Lexi is really going through a tough time. Like, let's do all this stuff for her. It's like, what about Gertie? You know? And then there's just great drama. It is. And sometimes it is silly and petty, but it does make for good reality tv most of the time. Time like, even like Lisa and Larsa going back and forth. It's like one second they're friends, the next they're yelling at each other about like Instagram, who follows who on Instagram? You know, it's just. It is funny. It is a great show. It is up there with Salt Lake. Salt Lake City, I think has been so good, but Miami really is so good and not talked about enough because it is absolutely ridiculous.

[Ria]

I gotta catch up. Yeah, it's behind. Yeah. Yeah.

[Fran]

It is really a fun, like, what do I want to turn? Like, I just want to watch a bunch of episodes and laugh because it's so silly.

[Ria]

Like, that's just absurd. Yeah.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Ria]

All right, let's do one more.

[Caller]

Hi, Rhea, Fran and Noah. Love the pod. It's the highlight of my Monday, Wednesday and Friday. I am currently in a One Tree Hill rewatch for about the fifth time. And I'm also watching the Samurai trip Turned pretty. And ever since the summer I turned pretty used Heartbeat. I've had this thought in my head just about how big the music of One Tree Hill is. And I feel like now with all the Taylor Swift songs, like music has been a big deal in the summer I turn pretty. So my question for you is if One Tree Hill was airing today, why songs or what like big hits do you think would have made it in the show? And are there any current songs that you would put with those big One Tree Hill moments? So like would you pick a different one for when Nathan and Haley kissed for the first time or that moment at the Saint championship? So two part question here. What big songs do you think would have made it in One Tree Hill back then? And then if you had to pick a more current song to replace one in a big One Tree Hill moment, what would it be? Curious to hear your answers. Have a great rest of your day. Bye.

[Fran]

That's a great question. I feel like the summer I interprety is. It's a unique thing because it is definitely more girly pop. You know, Olivia, Gracie, Taylor. And then of course they throw in like you know, U2 and Rolling Stones. Like it's like it is all over the place too. But they have access to everything, which is amazing. What was so awesome about One Tree Hill was like at the time that it was on because of the storylines of the show, it gave so many like newer bands these big moments.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Fran]

Which makes me think that like if it were on now, I would hope it would still be in that same vibe. Like I don't think they'd be Using Olivia Rodrigo songs on One Tree Hill, I think they'd be using like more of an indie pop vibe or like, you know, like we were. They were having like Jack's Mannequin and all these more kind of pop punky emo.

[Ria]

They would have them perform exactly. In the Leaders.

[Fran]

Exactly. I mean Pete Wentz was like on the show, you know, so I feel like they would have. If it was on now would go down a different path of like. But then like ballads, you know, maybe Hozier, Royal, Otis. Like some of these more. Maybe even like. Like a Mount Joy vibe. Like something kind of more in there I think would match what goes on with maybe like that Alex Warren song.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Fran]

Would be.

[Ria]

Yeah. The vibe of the show would be more like One Tree Hill via Than like.

[Fran]

Yeah, because I just think like it's.

[Ria]

Not as like I can hear a lot of Taylor Swift playing One Tree Hill because it's.

[Fran]

There's so many characters and so many different plot lines that it's not just like Summer Interprety is just more belly driven in my mind and like the music comes more from like these moments with her that are so fitting. But with One Tree Hill there's you know, Lucas and Peyton, Nathan and Haley, like even, you know, all these other characters that I feel like had musical moments that would make more sense with like. Like a not as pop vibe. I can't really think of anybody else I would 100% put in there. But that's.

[Ria]

I agree with that.

[Fran]

That's like the. My. That's where I would go through right now of like more ballady type things and more like indie alt rock.

[Ria]

Yeah, I think that's a solid answer.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Ria]

Because I'm even thinking about like throwing in, you know, like happier than ever and with Billie Eilish. But even still that seems like it would be a little too because you know, Peyton had her blog and you know I don't talk shit about you in the intro. Maybe like a little breakup with that. But also at the same time, I'm not really sure that fits the vibe.

[Fran]

Right. Like One Tree Hill had music in it that the scenes were so iconic the music became iconic and the summer intra pretty. A lot of it's like we all. We know the music already and it just fits so perfectly in the. In the seat scenes.

[Ria]

Yeah, that makes sense.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Ria]

Yeah, I like that answer. All right.

[Fran]

That was a fun one. I like. Yeah, that was really. It's a good comparison because it really is the show. The music makes such a big impact.

[Ria]

One that Will always sit with me is Gossip Girl loses her Virginia truck for the first time. Some 41. Yep. Like it that my mind immediately goes there to, like songs that you remember in that moment forever. So it is a great question. Yeah.

[Fran]

What's the one? What's the song that plays when. When he says he loves her? What's that song? Season of love by shiny toy Guns. That was one where I was like that. I listened to that song so much. It brings you right to that after that scene. And anytime I hear it now takes me right back to the street of, you know, Blair walking up on Chuck.

[Ria]

Exactly.

[Fran]

So it is true. It really.

[Ria]

Music is so important.

[Fran]

Absolutely is. And I think, like, we're so. We're so used to now also, like, with reality tv that they just use that, like, crazy music that's not all the time. Like songs that we know and things. And then when you get a good scripted show with, like, amazing music, it just makes it so much fun. Like how they get the budget for this. Yeah. Every time with the summer integrity. It's like, these songs are insane.

[Noah]

Is it true that I saw people saying this, but that because it's Amazon, they just have access to, like, that whole library and don't have to. I don't know how that works, but I don't know.

[Fran]

I could definitely understand someone assuming that it's like, oh, well, there's Amazon music that just, like, you can play music that's definitely.

[Ria]

I feel like, not the case, because.

[Fran]

Definitely not the case.

[Ria]

Why would Jenny Han have to write letters?

[Noah]

I mean, I'm sure that the artist still has to approve of him. Maybe it makes it a little easier.

[Fran]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't know. I don't know. They definitely have.

[Ria]

It definitely brings up every show. It does, like, a ton of notches, though.

[Fran]

Does it does.

[Ria]

All right, that wraps up the popcorn. And keep calling in with your hot takes. Your opinions or questions. We're answering them every Wednesday on the Popcorner. Abercrombie is an official fashion partner of the NFL. There's gears for all teams available. You can start with their Sunday crew oversized sweatshirt. They got the no bra camis. They got the dresses, the jackets. I talked about how I got a Buffalo Bills Abercrombie jacket that I can't wait to rock. Fran's gonna be rocking her eagle stuff.

[Fran]

She's got the eagle sweatshirt on sweatshi right now.

[Ria]

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[Fran]

Yeah.

[Ria]

But thank you so much for joining us.

[Noah]

Thank you.

[Kayla]

Very excited.

[Fran]

Amazing. I'm excited, too. I didn't get to play last week, so I'm excited to play. Um, so we'll get right into it. It's 15 questions. If you get it right, you get the point. If you get it wrong, the other team can steal the point. Whoever has the most points at the end wins. To determine who goes first, Noah's gonna give us a movie. We're gonna guess the round tomatoes critic score of that movie. Whoever's closest will go first, and we will alternate between teams. Everyone gets their own individual guess. Noah, what is today's movie?

[Noah]

Today's movie is the original Freaky Friday.

[Ria]

Ooh.

[Fran]

The original.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Noah]

Is that. How many are there?

[Fran]

I believe there's one before you obviously mean. Okay.

[Ria]

Yeah, Yeah.

[Noah]

I don't even know that. I didn't even know there was one.

[Ria]

Before that knew what you meant by that.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Ria]

All right, so one of you goes first.

[Kayla]

We'll say 78.

[Ria]

Solid guess.

[Fran]

Okay. Ria, you guess that direction.

[Ria]

I'm going to go 54.

[Noah]

64.

[Fran]

She says 78.

[Ria]

80.

[Noah]

That's the closest. 88.

[Ria]

Wow. High score. Well deserved.

[Fran]

Now I'm thinking, like, maybe was there. Sorry, just check for me. I may be wrong. Was there, like, an old Freaky Friday 1976. 1976. Thank you, Sarah.

[Noah]

Yeah.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Noah]

Damn. I think I read that book, the Freaky Friday book. Maybe you did, but I thought that was just, like, I don't know. Okay, question number one to Re and Fran, shout out Ellen and Biz from Phil in the original Mean Girls movie. The original Mean Girls movie. Hope there's not.

[Fran]

Yeah, no, that's.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Noah]

When Katie is talking to Aaron, what are the two words she combines to make one word?

[Ria]

Gruel.

[Fran]

Gruel.

[Ria]

So great and cool.

[Fran]

Yep.

[Ria]

Gruel. Final answer correct.

[Noah]

Okay.

[Ria]

I'm not proud that I say that often.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Noah]

One. Nothing. Question number two to Kayla and Joe, shout out Katie from Laconor, Washington. Sex and the City has a prequel that was made. What was it called?

[Kayla]

The Carrie Diaries.

[Ria]

Final answer correct with Austin Butler. Humble Braga auditioned for that show. Yeah, as the angsty little sister.

[Noah]

You weren't angsty enough.

[Fran]

Who got the part?

[Ria]

I don't remember her name.

[Noah]

No one does.

[Ria]

Goth, kind of.

[Fran]

She didn't become anything.

[Ria]

I don't think it took off for her. It might have. I just forget her name.

[Noah]

All right, tied up at one. Question number three to Re and Fran, shadow Elizabeth from St. Louis. Which TV show created the fake holiday? Holiday? Galentine's Day, Parks and Rec.

[Fran]

Final answer correct.

[Noah]

Off to a hot start. Okay, two. One. Question number four to Kaylin, Joe, Shadow Hallie from Clemson. Which actress has starred in the following Wedding Crashers, Sherlock Holmes, the Family Stone.

[Kayla]

I only know Wedding Crashers. Is it Rachel?

[Fran]

Yes.

[Noah]

I was gonna say that.

[Ria]

Yes.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Kayla]

Want to go her?

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Kayla]

Okay. Rachel McAdams final answer correct.

[Noah]

Okay, good one.

[Fran]

Ria's whispering to me. Easy.

[Noah]

Tied up at two. Question number five to Ri and Fran, shout out Anna from Philly. She says, go, Birds.

[Fran]

Go Birds.

[Noah]

Name. This year, Rihanna debuts Ponde Replay Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire is released in theaters. Maroon 5 wins Best New Artist at the Grammys.

[Fran]

So Rihanna just celebrated, what, 20 years?

[Ria]

I was gonna say maybe 2003 or 2004.

[Fran]

Goblet of Fire was. I was probably in 10 seconds. Fifth grade. Yeah. Four or five.

[Ria]

Not three?

[Fran]

No, I don't think three.

[Noah]

Three seconds.

[Fran]

I go four. 2004.

[Ria]

All right, 2004.

[Noah]

Incorrect.

[Ria]

Don't tell me it's 2003.

[Kayla]

I feel like friends on the right track with the 20 years. I want to say 2005.

[Noah]

Let's do it.

[Kayla]

Okay. 2005. Final answer correct.

[Ria]

Dang it.

[Fran]

Good job.

[Ria]

Shit.

[Fran]

I should have said 2005. I knew it. Because I. I wrote. I wrote Daniel Radcliffe the fan letter when I was in fifth grade. And that's what? Goblet of Fire. Because that's when he looked the best. In my fifth grade opinion.

[Noah]

All right, three, two. Kayla and Joe, this is question number six. To them, shout out Carly from Port Townsend in Friends. Who do the guys mistakenly think stole Ross's wedding ring?

[Kayla]

That's a toss, right?

[Noah]

Yes.

[Kayla]

It's the stripper. Are you.

[Noah]

I have no objection. I don't Know.

[Kayla]

Is that specific enough? The stripper. Final answer correct.

[Noah]

Do you guys know who? Actually I don't know why? It was a duck ate the ring. I don't know if you remember that.

[Ria]

I don't really. No.

[Noah]

Yeah, that sounds familiar. Okay. Four, two. Kaylin, Joe. Question number seven. To Ran Fran, shout out Carly from Colorado. Layden meester and Ali McLaughlin co star in what thriller movie together?

[Ria]

The Room Roommate.

[Fran]

Yes.

[Ria]

And you're talking about Milchaka.

[Fran]

Wow. That was so bad. I could not even get where I didn't even know where that was. Like I was like who?

[Ria]

Is that correct?

[Fran]

Yes. Ally and aj. That's tough. Yeah.

[Noah]

Okay. Four, three. Kayla and Joe. Question number eight. To them shout out Adrian from LA in Harry Potter. What is the name of the Slytherin house ghost? That's all you.

[Kayla]

I got nothing great with Harry Potter. The only ghost I remember is Moan Myrtle. But I don't remember what that was. Slytherin. So I'll just say Moan Myrtle.

[Noah]

Final answer incorrect three and friend.

[Fran]

I don't. I'm not going to remember cuz I'm thinking like Salazar Slytherin. But that's the head. That's the. It's not the ghost. They take the ghost out of all the movies. Nearly Headless Nick. Not him. The fat. The Baron. The something Baron.

[Noah]

10 seconds.

[Ria]

The big Baron. The big brawny Baron.

[Fran]

Oh yeah. It's something like that but I forget what it is.

[Ria]

I'm going to say the Baron.

[Fran]

Final answer.

[Noah]

Very close, but no. The Bloody Baron.

[Fran]

Bloody Baron. I was there before I was there there. I could have thought about that for like five more seconds. It may have came to me.

[Noah]

Still 43. Kaylin, Joe. Question number nine to Brienne, Fran, Shadow, Emily and Darien from Rochester, New Hampshire. What is the name of the company they work for in Severance?

[Ria]

I'm not going to know this one.

[Fran]

Is this our question?

[Ria]

Yeah. Oh, oh, oh.

[Fran]

Lumen. Lumen. Final answer correct.

[Ria]

Lumen. Damn. Boom.

[Fran]

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[Noah]

All right, tied up at 4. This is question number 10. I'm gonna play a movie clip and you tell me what movie it's from. It's really more of a brotherhood. It's like a musical team. It's like a symphony of guys.

[Ria]

Guys, symphony.

[Noah]

And it's very hard to describe the true magic of a group of guys.

[Ria]

Singing in perfect harmony.

[Noah]

It's transcendent.

[Ria]

I guess the best way to put it in words is just.

[Noah]

So it's either. It's not Pitch Perfect.

[Kayla]

No.

[Noah]

It's the one with Vince Vaughn and Jennifer Aniston. Oh, my gosh. What's the name of it? They live in. They live in Chicago.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Fran]

The breakup.

[Kayla]

You think it's that?

[Noah]

I do the breakup. Final answer correct. Wow, that was a good poll.

[Ria]

What a poll.

[Fran]

Kind of a fake out. You would think.

[Ria]

Pitch Perfect. Yeah, that was a fake out question.

[Noah]

That scene is so funny in that. In that movie where he's, like, going around the table making everyone sing. Okay, five, four. Kayla and Joe. Question number 11. To reinforce ran shadow Elaine from Cincinnati. What kind of nut is Mia nervous that security will crush on their inspection when going to meet her grandma for the first time in Princess Diaries?

[Fran]

Soy nut. Is that a thing?

[Ria]

Let's go.

[Fran]

That just, like, came to me.

[Ria]

Soy nut.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Ria]

Because soy milk.

[Fran]

Yeah. Final.

[Noah]

Final answer correct.

[Ria]

Nice.

[Noah]

All right, tied up at 5.

[Fran]

This is a close one.

[Ria]

Oh, this is a game of tennis. Seriously, A little back and forth. It's ping pong.

[Noah]

Question number 12.

[Fran]

Alarm set or.

[Noah]

Yeah, I don't know what that was.

[Ria]

I had to wake up at 11 o' clock today.

[Noah]

Question number 12 to Kaylin Joe. Tied up to five. Shout out to Sarah from Louisville, Kentucky. On Taylor Swift's debut album. She famously has one song, song that mentions the number 87. What's the name of that song, Mary song.

[Kayla]

Final answer correct.

[Fran]

Kayla knows her Taylor Swift.

[Ria]

Bang.

[Noah]

Okay. Six, five.

[Ria]

All right. They just bounced it back to us.

[Noah]

Shout out Annie from Chicago. Finish the lyrics in Olivia Rodrigo's song. Brutal. And I hate every song I write, and I'm not cool and I'm not smart, and I can't even parallel park.

[Ria]

Boom.

[Noah]

Dang.

[Ria]

Bang.

[Fran]

Nice.

[Noah]

Correct. Wow. I'm shocked that you got that.

[Fran]

I. Well, I'm.

[Ria]

I'm not shocked.

[Fran]

I'm not that. I mean, I would not have got it.

[Ria]

I listen to that song often.

[Fran]

It's a great song.

[Noah]

I had that in the bank for, like, the last question of a trivia in the live show, and I didn't put it right because I thought, oh, no one's gonna know that.

[Fran]

That.

[Ria]

Nope, I got it.

[Noah]

All right. Tied up at six. Two questions left.

[Ria]

Oh, boy.

[Noah]

Question number 14 to Kayla and Joe. Shout out Hannah from Washington. What three actresses play the main three moms in the movie? Bad moms.

[Fran]

Oh, my gosh.

[Noah]

I see all their faces, but I know none of their names.

[Kayla]

That's the one with Mila Kunis, right?

[Ria]

No.

[Fran]

Oh, yeah.

[Noah]

No, you're right.

[Fran]

It is. I was thinking of.

[Noah]

So she's won 10 seconds.

[Fran]

Oh, geez.

[Kayla]

Is one Ellie Kemper.

[Fran]

Sure.

[Noah]

Five seconds.

[Kayla]

I don't know if I know the third.

[Noah]

Up.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Noah]

Now pass.

[Ria]

So one is Mila Kuna, Maya Rudolph, maybe, and then a blonde.

[Fran]

Yeah, you're just thinking, like, across the board. Is one Ellie Kemper.

[Ria]

We could do that. We could do Ellie Kemper, Mila Kunis, and Maya Ruda.

[Fran]

Why not?

[Ria]

All right, those are the three.

[Noah]

Incorrect. It's Kristen Bell, Mila Kunis, and Katherine Hahn.

[Fran]

I see.

[Ria]

I was gonna say Kristen Bell, but I wasn't gonna say Katherine Hahn, so wouldn't have got.

[Fran]

Yeah, yeah. Yep.

[Noah]

All right. Still tied up at 6. Final question.

[Fran]

Lock in. Lock in.

[Ria]

I'm locking in.

[Noah]

Shout out. Paige from Richmond, Kentucky, in 2009. What? Nickelodeon showed a Justin Bieber guest star as himself in.

[Fran]

What Nickelodeon show?

[Ria]

Icarly.

[Fran]

I mean, icarly is probably like the.

[Ria]

Because the webcam show. You know what I mean?

[Fran]

And, like, there's so many guest appearance in iCarly, but I don't remember.

[Ria]

Just.

[Fran]

I don't remember being in iCarly 2009.

[Noah]

3 seconds.

[Fran]

Sam and Cat. Is that too late?

[Ria]

Victorious.

[Fran]

I don't know. ICarly.

[Noah]

Final answer incorrect. Tequila and Jo.

[Kayla]

Oh, my God. This is a lot of pressure.

[Fran]

I. I don't know.

[Kayla]

I was more of a Disney Girly, but it's not Icarly.

[Noah]

Himself.

[Kayla]

That's a pretty big get in 2009.

[Noah]

10 seconds. Just take a guess.

[Fran]

I got nothing.

[Ria]

It's.

[Kayla]

It's not victorious, but victorious.

[Noah]

Final answer incorrect. True. Jackson vp.

[Ria]

Damn it.

[Fran]

Damn. Yeah, I don't remember that at all.

[Noah]

Headed to overtime.

[Ria]

All right.

[Fran]

All right. Well, we haven't had an overtime while.

[Noah]

Okay.

[Fran]

All right. So, I mean, it's. Once again, our go to for overtime is we have these rules. Don't really know if they make sense, but these are the rules. Three more questions. You guys will now start. Because we started the first round after three questions. If we're still tied, it's basically just a shootout.

[Noah]

All right, question number one. Kaylin, Joe, Shout out Hallie from Clemson in the movie Step Brothers. What program are the boys watching when Robert the Dad shuts off the tv?

[Fran]

Shark Week.

[Noah]

Final answer, Correct.

[Ria]

Damn.

[Fran]

Yep.

[Noah]

Okay.

[Ria]

It's a softball.

[Fran]

Yes.

[Noah]

Okay, question number two to Ria and Fran, shout out Sam from Montreal. Name the singer featured in all of these albums. Midnights by Taylor Swift. Starboard by the Weeknd. World Music Radio by Jon Batista.

[Ria]

Alana Delray.

[Fran]

She have a song with. Yeah. Yeah.

[Ria]

Let's go. Lana Del Rey.

[Fran]

Final answer correct.

[Ria]

Ice.

[Noah]

All right, question number three, back to Kaylin, Joe, Shadow, Elizabeth from St. Louis. What country does the third Cheetah Girls movie take place?

[Fran]

Soon. Oh, boy.

[Kayla]

Oh, no. There's a third?

[Noah]

Oh, gosh, I have no idea.

[Kayla]

The second one is Spain. Right.

[Noah]

Guess a country. I don't know.

[Kayla]

France.

[Fran]

Sure.

[Kayla]

France. Final answer.

[Noah]

Incorrect.

[Ria]

India. Bang. Damn.

[Fran]

Final answer.

[Noah]

Oh, man.

[Fran]

Tough. Zen with the Cheetah Girls.

[Ria]

Tough.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Kayla]

That was a good game.

[Ria]

Wow.

[Fran]

Yes. The second one is Barcelona. I actually did not remember I was about to say Morocco. Like, I was like, I don't know why.

[Ria]

It's Bollywood, baby.

[Fran]

It was Bollywood. You're right, you're right, you're right, you're right, you're right.

[Noah]

All right, final score. Eight, seven.

[Ria]

Damn. That was a really close game. Yep. Unfortunately, I was on my. But, yeah.

[Fran]

You guys were. Honestly.

[Ria]

That was great, though. That was a great back and forth. You guys were fantastic. Thank you so much.

[Fran]

Yes.

[Ria]

Really, really great game. And you guys still.

[Fran]

Thank you guys so much.

[Ria]

Yes, thank you. And you still get merch, so just send no your address and sizes and we'll get some merch sent to you. Joe, if you want something, you know, other than chicks in the office, just send that request in. We got you covered. Thank you. I appreciate it. Thank you guys so much. So nice meeting you both and congratulations again.

[Fran]

Thanks, guys.

[Noah]

Thank you.

[Fran]

Bye, guys.

[Ria]

All right, that wraps up today's episode of chicks in the office. Thanks for watching the best show on earth because we're going on the best show on earth tour. We want to see you there. Tickets will be on sale Tuesday, September 9, 12 Eastern Time. We can't wait to see you guys. We love you guys very much and we'll talk to you on Monday.

[Olive]

Yeah, chicks in the office.

[Fran]

Longtime listener, first time caller.

[Olive]

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[Ria]

Sam.