Mormon Wives' Jessi's Husband Files for Divorce, Chappell Roan vs Brazil + Jenna Dewan Interview

Summary

Chicks in the Office – March 23, 2026

Episode: "Mormon Wives' Jessi's Husband Files for Divorce, Chappell Roan vs Brazil + Jenna Dewan Interview"

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Episode Overview

This episode finds Ria, Fran, and Noah hitting all the latest and wildest pop culture moments—from the latest Mormon Wives drama and Chappell Roan getting banned in Brazil, to the full Justin Timberlake DUI footage, plus a recap-heavy Watch Report. Topping it all is a rich, joyful interview with actress and dancer Jenna Dewan, where the hosts get nostalgic about Step Up and discuss her career evolution. The tone is high-energy, irreverent, and conversational, with true signature Chick in the Office wit and sidebars.

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Pop Culture Recap & Personal Updates

1. Hannah Montana LA Premiere & Brand Trip Excitement

• [01:57-06:31]
  • Fran and Brianne are recording from LA, buzzing about attending the Hannah Montana Anniversary Special premiere—fulfilling lifelong dreams as Disney Channel stans.
  • "If you're reviving any sort of Disney Channel thing and there's a premiere, I'm your gal. Make sure I'm there." – Fran [03:14]
  • First-time experience on a brand trip (with Maybelline); both are giddy about free goodies and the red carpet.

2. Upcoming Live Show

• [04:20-05:02]
  • They hype up their Dallas live show, promising guest appearances from Jesse and Carl from Summer House and encouraging fans to bring signs.

3. Airport Chaos & Concert-Going

• [07:58-14:54]
  • The crew discusses the recent surge in viral TSA/airport wait lines. Noah details his "concert week," attending four shows (including three nights with Marcus King, run-ins with Cyndi Lauper, and time in the Blue Note green room).
  • "I thought could have ended my life. Like, I was in another dimension." – Noah on his concert candy experience [13:44]
  • Joking that their concert antics always look more subdued than they actually feel.

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Main Pop Culture Hot Topics

1. Mormon Wives’ Jessi’s Husband Files for Divorce

• [20:57-29:41]
  • Breaking news: Jordan, Jessi’s husband, files for divorce, sparking debate on prenups and reality TV power plays.
  • "This guy is the mayor of Weenie Hut Jr." – Fran [21:21]
  • Hosts express paternal protectiveness over Jessi, disappointed she didn’t get to file first for ultimate pettiness.
  • They speculate on the fate of the "MomTok" show, referencing an ABC exec call where the cast voiced concern about filming amid child abuse allegations against cast member Taylor.
  • Frenzied social media coverage: "It's just dominating everybody's feed. It's like every other post I feel like I'm seeing." – Fran [25:50]
  • Rumors swirl about Jessi possibly appearing on "Call Her Daddy" to tell her side.

2. Chappell Roan vs. Brazil: Security Scandal

• [29:41-40:24]
  • Recap of Chappell Roan’s security allegedly yelling at Jude Law’s 11-year-old daughter after she simply noticed Roan at breakfast in Brazil—a PR disaster ignites, with Roan reportedly "banned" from returning to Rio’s Lollapalooza.
  • "The Brazilians are the best of the best, and... you really don’t want to mess with Brazil." – Fran [36:52]
  • Roan claims it wasn't her security; backlash highlights her "boundaries-not-an-excuse-to-be-an-asshole" reputation.
  • Hosts compare her celebrity comportment to pop stars like Miley Cyrus and Harry Styles. Noah says: "She just might be an asshole." [40:37]

3. Justin Timberlake DUI Video Released

• [40:55-48:49]
  • Full arrest tape released, revealing Timberlake’s slurred attempts to charm police ("I'm on a world tour") and ultimately admit, "I'm Justin Timberlake."
  • "He gets pulled over and couldn't find it in himself to be like, 'I'm a singer.' I'm a musician. He hit the 'I'm on a world tour.'" – Brianne [41:38]
  • The hosts both mock and rebuke him, noting that "the video only happened because this idiot was drunk driving." – Fran [44:11]
  • Laughing at his behavior, but firmly condemning drunk driving as "inexcusable."
  • Memorable moment: Timberlake’s oddball joke when booking: "They have him under white. He looks back, he's like, 'white.' And then he's like, 'I'm just kidding.'" – Brianne [42:21]

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Weekly Watch Report (TV & Movie Reviews)

• [51:15-81:31]
  • Hosts recap and rate shows (grades in parentheses):
    • Survivor: B+ ("Get past the Zac Brown Band stuff and it was a good episode." – Brianne [52:56])
    • Summer House: A- / "ramping up" with important convos on race (see: Sierra and Wes) [58:01]
    • Southern Charm Reunion: B ("Tough showing for Craig and double standards on women." [59:28])
    • Love Story: D/F ("Stunner of an episode—just 45 minutes of fighting, forced Princess Diana connections, horrific fake crying." – Noah [64:04])
    • Shrinking: A- (Fran: "It's just a really, really good show." [65:39])
    • The Pit: A ("Does it extremely well. It's so timely and feels like present day real life." – Fran [70:55])
    • Paradise: B ("Least invested in Jane's storyline" [76:10])
    • Rooster: C- (Noah: "I just have no interest in it at all." [81:57])
    • Movie talk: The team is desperate to see "Project Hail Mary" in IMAX, referencing its book club acclaim and sold-out shows.

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Jenna Dewan Interview

Jenna’s Journey & Nostalgia

• [86:08-116:24]
  • Jenna is warmly welcomed ("Huge fans forever now!" – Brianne [86:20]), decked out in "fairycore" spring attire.
  • Allergy struggles and spring in NY banter to start.
  • The Rookie: "The dreamiest job I've ever had." – Jenna [89:36]
    • Plays Bailey, loves the adventurous scripts, and praises the cast—especially Nathan Fillion ("greatest person to work for" [89:36])
  • Acting origin: Discovered by a manager after dancing with *NSYNC at the Grammys [91:17]; first audition landed her a role in the horror movie "Tamara"
  • Early setbacks: Cut from "Take the Lead," got "Step Up" thanks to her manager's insistence she wasn't already a "dance movie" star [94:47]
    • "I literally fell into it, and I didn't even know what a mark was." – Jenna [93:52]
  • Step Up at 20 years: Hosts reminisce about its ongoing cultural relevance.
    • "Step Up is 20 years old this year." – Fran [97:31]
    • Jenna is still recognized by kids not even born then, feels amazed at its legacy [99:01]
    • The soundtrack and viral TikTok dances keep it alive [99:09]
    • Favorite scene: Bar dance along with cast [113:47]
  • All things dance:
    • Taught herself Janet Jackson routines as a kid, landed her dream role touring with Janet at 18 [107:46]
    • On if she'd do Dancing With The Stars: "Never say never... but I've never ballroom danced in my entire life." [102:47]
    • Recalls hilarious pressure not to label herself a "dancer" when aiming for serious acting roles [94:51]
    • Support for her kids' self-discovery—she won’t push them into dance, but both Evie and Callum seem to have rhythm [110:13]
  • Love for "The Rookie":
    • Describes set as a family, loves how TikTok is bringing new viewers
    • "We're a family. We really are." – Jenna [115:14]

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Memorable Quotes & Moments

• Jordan (Jessi's ex) Reaction: "He’s the mayor of Weenie Hut Jr." – Fran [21:21]
• On Chappell Roan: "You piss off Brazil, you got to be worried about your career after that." – Brianne [37:54]
• Timberlake DUI: "He gets pulled over and couldn't find it in himself to be like, 'I'm a singer. I'm a musician.' He hit the 'I'm on a world tour.'" – Brianne [41:38]
• Love for Step Up: "It's muscle memory. I can't remember where my phone or keys are... but I could do a dance from when I was 15." – Jenna Dewan [99:48]
• On Dance Talent: "Maybe she'll get Steve's singing voice. I have no idea. My youngest just seems to be yelling at us all day." – Jenna Dewan [111:11]

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• 01:57–06:31 – LA Hannah Montana Premiere & Brand Trip
• 20:57–29:41 – Mormon Wives Divorce & Reality TV Fallout
• 29:41–40:24 – Chappell Roan vs Brazil Security Scandal
• 40:55–48:49 – Justin Timberlake DUI Video
• 51:15–81:31 – Weekly Watch Report (detailed TV reviews)
• 86:08–116:24 – Jenna Dewan Interview

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Takeaways

• The Chicks mix playful shade, genuine pop culture analysis, and silly anecdotes with real engagement in showbiz behind-the-scenes.
• The Jenna Dewan interview—giddy, warm, and packed with career stories—is a must-listen for dance or Step Up fans.
• The pod delivers the best reality TV coverage, deftly balancing snark and sincerity.

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For listeners looking for top-tier pop culture dishing, firsthand entertainment news, and a nostalgic, authentic celebrity deep-dive, this episode is as lively and fun as its hosts.

Transcript

[Fran]

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[Fran]

What's up, everyone?

[Brianne Fran]

It's Chicks in the Office with Brianne Fran, giving you that Friday energy on a Monday. Happy Monday, everybody. This is a super fun episode, as always, because it's the best show on earth. But the best show on Earth. Chicks in the Office is presented by Microsoft 365 copilot. Before we get into today's topics and our wonderful interview, we need to talk about the thing that is keeping everyone's lives organized right now. And that is Microsoft 365 copilot.

[Fran]

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[Brianne Fran]

That's exactly right, Fran. You can learn [e-mail] M365CO pilot Happy Monday, everybody. We are in LA right now. We're so freaking excited. Fran and I are both in LA for the Hannah Montana anniversary special premiere. We're both in the same hotel right now in separate hotel rooms. Recording this was the best way to do this, but we're so excited. Red carpet premiere. The Whole thing. I'm so pumped. Number one, because it's Hannah Montana, and this is literally like a lifelong dream of ours. Like, I'm freaking out. Number two, I've never, like, walked a red carpet for a premiere.

[Fran]

Right. You said that to me, which was shocking when you said that, but I guess that's true because. But you don't really count, like, the People's Choice Awards because that's. Oh. Because it's like. I mean, that's a. That's a red carpet.

[Brianne Fran]

No.

[Fran]

Yes.

[Brianne Fran]

Yes. That's a red carpet. That's like a Ward show. But, like, I've never done, like, a prem. A premier red carpet, you know? Right, right, right.

[Fran]

The only ones I've done, I just had the Jonas Brothers one, so I really. Jonas Brothers, Hannah Montana.

[Brianne Fran]

Like Disney Channel. Yes.

[Fran]

Only invited to Disney Channel carpets. That's it.

[Brianne Fran]

That's our brand. Disney Channel.

[Fran]

If you're reviving any sort of Disney Channel thing and there's a premiere, I'm your gal. Make sure I'm there.

[Brianne Fran]

Yeah, me too.

[Fran]

Which is so funny. No, I'm so. I'm so excited we're here. I was laughing because you. We're recording on Sunday, and we just got here, and you had posted some of the stuff from your room where. We're here with Maybelline, which we're. We're. It's great. And I had to post in a different ad, so it, like, I'm getting people being like, wait, are you not. They, like, think I'm at home cooking dinner.

[Brianne Fran]

I know. People are messaging me, like, is Fran not there with you? Guys, guys, don't worry. She's here. She's here.

[Fran]

I'm here, I'm here.

[Brianne Fran]

At this point, we are basically never separated. We have spent so much time together, but we've been having a blast, let me tell you.

[Fran]

Like, we definitely have. You know, it's been. It's been a lot of fun. We've been doing some really fun stuff. We've been on the go, go, go. We had a little bit of some time at home the last few days. And like we said last week, you know, we're headed to something really excited, real exciting. We were pumped about it. This is it.

[Brianne Fran]

We.

[Fran]

We're here for a couple days, and then straight to Dallas for our live show. So we're very excited.

[Brianne Fran]

Yes. We have our live show in Dallas. Jesse and Carl from Summer House. Are our Dallas guests. Going to be so much fun. We can't wait for that. Can't wait to see you guys. If you're coming to the show, Reminder, bring your signs. And we're. We're so pumped for that as well. So, yeah, it's been a ton of fun being on the road. A lot of exciting things. And I'm like, honestly, just geeking out about this Hannah Montana stuff. I'm like, what's going to happen? And then we'll do a full recording after. Um, that'll be on Wednesday's episode to detail what happened at the premiere. Is Miley gonna show up? What's she gonna be wearing? The. The whole thing.

[Fran]

This is also kind of our first, like, brand trip.

[Brianne Fran]

Yeah.

[Fran]

Honestly, we've never really done this. Like, we've never walked into the hotel room and the stuff's laid out on the bed, and the, you know, the. The. The Maybelline stickers on the mirror in the bathroom, and we're like, oh, shit. Like, we're here. Maybe it's Maybelline, baby.

[Brianne Fran]

Yeah. Never.

[Fran]

We've never had that. Which is. Which is cool. Like, I feel like I'm so excited it's our first time.

[Brianne Fran]

Me too. I'm like, oh, I'm like a little kid in a candy store right now. Or honestly, kind of just like a little girl, like, finding makeup for the first time. Like, I'm trying. I'm touching everything. I'm trying everything. Oh, my God. I made myself a little. Ooh, wow. Motorcycle going by. Can you guys hear that? I made myself espresso when I got in. Like, oh, just. Just happy to be here. But I cannot wait for this anniversary special. Like. Like what? You know, is she going to pop out and sing to us again? Like, I don't know. I'm getting my hopes up. I'm getting my hopes up. I've, like, I've envisioned this whole thing where we run into Miley and she's like, girls, it was so good seeing you last time. You guys look so cute. And then she, like, pops up and sings something. Like, I've. I've drummed up this entire thing in my head. We probably will not run into her. And I don't know if she's gonna sing because we're watching the special. But, yeah, you know, a girl can dream. A girl can dream while we're here.

[Fran]

Absolutely. We're in. We're in la. City of dreams, you know?

[Brianne Fran]

You know, Miley did say recently in an interview, she said that she learned this from Dolly Parton, where she talks about things before they happen, as if they're happening. Yes. And then they kind of did this to happen. That's how she did the special. Yeah. Miley's gonna sing. Miley is gonna sing at the anniversary special premiere. Obviously now the pressure is on her to do so.

[Fran]

Yeah. And you didn't see any of the spoilers because she did a big interview with ver. Variety.

[Brianne Fran]

Yes, variety.

[Fran]

Variety. And they really included a lot of what is in this special. I saw it all.

[Brianne Fran]

So I purposely closed my eyes and didn't look or watch because.

[Fran]

Which is great. So you don't. You don't know about some of the surprises that are in the special, which is exciting because I had it spoiled for me and I didn't really have a choice. I didn't go looking for it. It was in a. Just in my face. In a tweet. It was just right there. The. The thing. Sorry, Excuse me. The spoiler was in the tweet. Oh, shit.

[Brianne Fran]

Yeah. Okay. Well, don't tell me.

[Fran]

No, I'm not. I haven't, I haven't.

[Brianne Fran]

I'm going in blind. And purposely I did that so that it can all be like a fun surprise. But yeah, we're so excited. And yeah, we had some time at home. I had my friend Fiona's baby shower on Saturday and was so freaking cute. I'm so happy for them. So that was really nice. And then we were back on the road.

[Fran]

Exactly. I had a couple of days. Couple of days at home and back on the flight to. To la, which I'm. We're traveling a lot and I know a lot of people are feeling this. I could not be more locked in to looking up airports, social media. Like, what's tsa?

[Brianne Fran]

What.

[Fran]

What's the TSA situation? Looking up wait times. Because if you're looking on TikTok, it seems to be a disaster everywhere. Granted, showing up at whatever time. We did a Sunday morning at jfk. We were to. Was totally fine. It was.

[Brianne Fran]

We were.

[Fran]

We were there quite early, but that was totally fine because we had some breakfast. I'm so nervous now for traveling everywhere else because we have. We have to continue to going. Continue going to shows. I'm worried about these guys. I'm worried about these guys traveling to Dallas without us. We're not there to watch them.

[Noah]

I was going to ask, like, what time do I have to get to the airport on Wednesday? Like, or Tuesday?

[Fran]

Like, exactly. I knew he was going to ask

[Brianne Fran]

us what time to get.

[Noah]

I saw today, like a video of LaGuardia where the line was, like, in the parking lot.

[Fran]

And the problem is, is you guys are Flying early in the morning, right? Or late?

[Noah]

No, we're flying late. Late, late.

[Fran]

I think that. Don't. Don't.

[Brianne Fran]

I don't know.

[Fran]

I'm talking out of my ass, to be honest. That might be better because allegedly, it is the worst in the early morning hours.

[Noah]

Well, now I'm seeing people saying that because this is all becoming a whole thing on the Internet. It's. It's actually causing the lines to be longer because now people show up earlier for, like, when they, like. So the. They're showing up so early that they're getting in line with people that are not. I don't know. It's. It's very.

[Fran]

No, I saw. I. I actually saw what you're saying. It's like people are so scared, they're showing up four hours early to their flight, and then everybody's waiting in line at the same time for flights that are all, like, actually spaced out.

[Brianne Fran]

Yeah, it's a. It's a whole freaking disaster. But, yeah, we need you guys to make it. We are rooting for you to make it to meet us in Dallas.

[Noah]

Listen, like, after last week, we can't have, like, situation.

[Fran]

Smooth sailing.

[Noah]

Let it just be every time.

[Brianne Fran]

Now it's like, hey, Dave, we're stuck again. Seeming to be suspicious.

[Fran]

So crazy. But we just can't find a flight. Just again.

[Brianne Fran]

But it's honestly weird being here without you guys. I'm not gonna lie. So we're excited to. Excited to reunite in Dallas.

[Noah]

Yeah, we'll see you in Dallas.

[Brianne Fran]

Yeah. Hopefully you make it.

[Noah]

I hope so, too.

[Fran]

Yep. Just, you know, keep us posted. You'll be good. What? Did you do anything this weekend?

[Noah]

Noah, you know, just kept my con. This is the concert week of Noah.

[Fran]

Yeah, I was gonna ask for the update on the concert.

[Noah]

So, yeah, I'm Four in.

[Fran]

Four concerts in one week.

[Noah]

Four concerts, one week. And we got two next week.

[Brianne Fran]

Whoa.

[Fran]

More next week on the weekend. When do you have the time?

[Noah]

Next Friday and Saturday. And listen, if we didn't have our own show on Wednesday, you'd catch me at Tedeschi on Wednesday too. And by the way, Trent, he's fully bought in because I was only going on Friday next week, but, like, I was just gonna. I'm going by myself on Friday again. They're doing 10 nights at the Beacon. But Trent, after these shows, he. We're going next Saturday again, too, together.

[Brianne Fran]

Oh, my God.

[Noah]

He's fully bought in. It's just. They're the greatest band on earth. There's not much else to say.

[Brianne Fran]

You're tempting me. Like, I feel like I'm missing out.

[Noah]

You know who they brought out randomly last night that I ne. Not necessarily, like, was my cup of tea, but it was just, like, so random. Cyndi Lauper. Cyndi Lauper.

[Brianne Fran]

Cyndi Lauper.

[Fran]

Cyndi Lauper.

[Noah]

Yeah. Yeah. She came out and sang a song.

[Fran]

That's awesome.

[Noah]

Yeah, they brought in a lot of people. Honestly, like, she was the biggest name, but in that world.

[Fran]

I mean, no, she's a mega, mega, mega.

[Noah]

No, I know what? Girls just want to have fun. I looked it up while she was out there, because I'm like, wait, what? Like, what did she do?

[Brianne Fran]

Oh, my God.

[Fran]

You went to Google. Cindy Lauper.

[Noah]

When she came out, I knew the name. I just was like, what's. What are her songs? That's the only song that I recognized when I looked her up.

[Fran]

But she's an icon.

[Noah]

Yeah, but it's incredible. Yeah. Just. It's just.

[Brianne Fran]

Wow.

[Noah]

Three hours of the best jamming. Just jamming.

[Fran]

Just jamming, man. Him and Trent. This is. This is. They're saying they're going this.

[Noah]

No, no. Like, do you remember that there was a picture when Trent and I went to a John Mayer concert? Like, I think Franz Friend or someone took it.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Noah]

It's just like, me and Trent, like, standing there, like, with our arms crossed. You're like, it's like, that is, for the most part, probably how we look. Like if you just saw us, it might not look like we're having the best time. But trust. Trust us. We are.

[Brianne Fran]

I believe that you are. The pictures you guys posted were so funny. And you know what? I'm. I'm happy for you guys that you guys love it so much. You're going to go back this weekend. Like, honestly, I was going to say, well, we're busy. I don't know how you're finding the time. I agree so much that you are finding the time.

[Noah]

This break is good because then I. I saw Marcus King a couple nights last week.

[Brianne Fran]

You can miss them a little bit. Yeah. Yeah.

[Noah]

Like, you need some days, like, I have gone, like, four times in a row, and by the fourth one, if you're doing that, you kind of. Which is funny. Even, like, at the concert when it's like, intermission and I sit, I'm like, to try and, like, oh, like, my feet are killing me on my back. And meanwhile they're, like, up playing a concert and I'm, like, exhausted from just. You put a lot into it. Jamming. You're exhausting the Jamming takes it out of you. I will say last night I might have gone a little too hard with the. The candy, as I would have said to Rhea at the airport.

[Brianne Fran]

Oh.

[Fran]

Oh, yeah. The special candy.

[Brianne Fran]

Special candy.

[Noah]

Different kinds of candy. And. And the. This. I. You know, but it's good, like, now I know for next week. I. I did walk out of the concert. Kind of like one of the songs toward the end. I. I thought could have ended my life. Like, I was in. I was in another dimension.

[Fran]

Oh. Oh, my goodness.

[Brianne Fran]

Well, those experiences, they'll teach you for the next time.

[Noah]

That's what. Yeah. You know, that's why you go to, like, 4, 5, 6. Because then you can test these things.

[Brianne Fran]

You can test the level of. Of drug usage.

[Fran]

Hey, the neck next time. Oh, you'll have the correct dosage.

[Noah]

Yeah, I didn't say that, actually. When I went to Marcus King the other night, because it was actually through shout out to his team, like, they gave some tickets to barstool that I ended up in his green room in between. I told Frank because.

[Fran]

Yeah, no, I got. I got a solo text about it.

[Noah]

Solo text. But that was pretty wild. Anytime you end up in a green room at a concert, you just feel like it. I didn't feel as weird, though, as when I did this to Tedeschi last year. I felt more like, yeah, I should. I should I. Yeah. I'm just chilling.

[Fran]

You know who was extremely jealous? My. My husband. My husband was like, you get. You had tickets to work. You didn't want to go. You didn't tell me. No, I went when I was there.

[Brianne Fran]

What the hell?

[Fran]

You didn't tell. No, I didn't know Noah got tickets to work. I thought Noah was just going on his own.

[Noah]

Well, I was.

[Brianne Fran]

He didn't mention that. You're right.

[Noah]

No, no, that was kind of like a last second thing. And then the funny thing is, it's like I ended up staying for the late show that night, which I didn't plan on. And then I went the night again the night after that. So I saw this, his show three times, but it was awesome to be, like, in the green room.

[Brianne Fran]

Very.

[Noah]

Told him, like. And it's like, you never know what to say. It's like, hey, man, like, unrealist. That was unreal. That was awesome.

[Brianne Fran]

You rocked out there, man.

[Noah]

Yeah.

[Fran]

What a show.

[Noah]

What a show.

[Fran]

But yeah, Green room at the Blue Note. That's one to cross off. That's as cool as it gets.

[Brianne Fran]

What's on his rider. Would you.

[Noah]

Would you see Back there, cigarettes and beer, like, I don't know. Yeah, it was like a. It's a tiny room, like tinier than any room we've ever had, which makes sense.

[Fran]

The Blue Note's so small.

[Noah]

But that's why it also feels funny because I. I was the first one to walk in out of the people that coming in and. And you walk in and it's just like an insanely small room. And he had just come off and it's like, what am I doing here?

[Fran]

That's so cool. For those that don't know, the Blue Note is a very iconic, like, jazz club in New York City.

[Noah]

Yeah.

[Fran]

And it's. It's an awesome spot. And there's been some very, very, like, legendary performances there down in the West Village. It's a really cool spot. If you're ever visiting New York, I highly recommend. But they have like, you know, like Marcus King has been doing a bunch of shows. There's.

[Noah]

Yeah, they have blue notes now, like a lot of it. Like, I know they have one like a famous one in Tokyo now.

[Brianne Fran]

Oh, really?

[Noah]

Yeah. I think they must have it in la. I know they have it in London, but.

[Brianne Fran]

Yeah.

[Fran]

Look at you, music guy.

[Noah]

This is. This is two weeks. The Ives of March.

[Fran]

I jokingly say to my friends, the Ives of March.

[Brianne Fran]

Oh, well, we're excited for the recaps next week. We can't wait for you and Trends Journey.

[Noah]

Maybe we'll have.

[Brianne Fran]

Maybe we'll have Trent pop on if he's around.

[Fran]

Yeah. I was gonna say it's nice to know trends alive.

[Brianne Fran]

Yeah. Yeah. To pop on. To talk about the fact that, you know, when the Bachelorette was going to air and stuff and, you know, everything was happening, we were probably going to have him on to discuss a little bit. Now that's not happening.

[Noah]

So we were throwing out a possible, you know, cutting stems.

[Brianne Fran]

Yeah.

[Noah]

Bringing it back in some capacity.

[Brianne Fran]

Yeah. So we should have him on to discuss and also discuss all your guys ventures. That'll be fun. We'll ask him if he's around. Yeah.

[Noah]

It's just good to have like a buddy that is as invested and. And loves it as much because, you know, you take people and then they're not. They're kind of like, oh, yeah, that was cool. But to have someone who's like that, that was the greatest night of my life.

[Brianne Fran]

Like, fuck, yeah, I love it. That's amazing. Yeah, that is. That is awesome. All right, we're gonna get into the rest of the show. We got to talk about these Mormon Wives. More drama, more news hit Thursday night that Jordan, Jesse's husband, has filed for divorce. And then there's rumors swirling around that Dumois posted some things. Chapel, Roan security, a lot of drama going on with Jude Law's 11 year old daughter and chaperone security. She's not allowed to go to Rio anymore. It's a whole thing. The full Justin Timberlake DUI video has been released and man, it's a treat. And we have the weekly Watch report and a great interview with Jenna Dewan who we've wanted to have on this show for such a long time. And she is so nice and so fun and really reminiscing. So that was amazing. And yeah, on on Wednesday, we'll be back with another episode recapping everything that happened at the premiere. So stay tuned for that. But let's get into the topics. We cannot wait for our show in Dallas. But even more than that, we can't wait to drink a delicious Rum Haven cocktail with all of you. Because right now, the world's too loud. It's too filtered, it's too fake. But not here, not with us and not with Rum Haven. Rumhaven is where the noise fades and the real comes out. Where you can unbutton expectations and sip on what's true and what's natural. One taste of pure cane sugar and real coconut water lets you feel the difference. It's what real tastes like. That place, that feeling, that mindset where everything finds its balance. It's an oasis of authenticity and it calls to you and draws you in. Because in this space, you can be real with yourself, your friends and the strangers who might just become them. So open up a bottle of Rumhaven, drink a nice Rumhaven cocktail at one of our shows, lose the small talk and find the good vibes. Because the best moments aren't fake. They're simply real. Rom Haven made for real. So after we wrapped up recording Thursday when the bachelorite got canceled, breaking news, the whole thing. There's all these reports coming in now. Taylor, Frankie, Paul, Dakota, I guess has been granted primary custody until temporary custody. Yeah, until their court date. After all that, we go home. News hits. Jordan has filed for divorce from Jesse. This fucking guy. We both had the same reaction because honestly, so happy they're getting a divorce. But what this read to me was that Jordan found a little, a little plot hole in the prenup and said, oh yeah, I'm filing and I'm going to get your money. And to that you pissed me off, Jordan, because I so Badly wish Jesse was the one to file. And who knows what happened with their prenup situation because we never really got a follow up on the Season of Mormon Wives. So we want to know what's happening. But this guy, I mean, I'm. I'm glad she's getting away, but at the same time, I wish she was the one to file.

[Fran]

Yeah. That was solely from the. The basis of pettiness on. On our parts when we saw he was the one to file. That was solely just a petty like, well, that's. He's the one filing. Give me a break. Like, we immediately just thought, absolutely, no, this guy is the mayor of Weenie Hut Jr. You know, like, it's just. It's just the, the mayor, like the manager. The. The. The owner of Weenie Hut Jr. Yeah.

[Brianne Fran]

The biggest loser of Loserville.

[Fran]

It's.

[Brianne Fran]

It's crazy.

[Fran]

Yeah. And the timing of this is crazy. Going, what a day at the courthouse. Their. Their. Their local courthouse. Thursday was a busy day, it seems. Guy. These guys were in and out of that place left and right.

[Brianne Fran]

Salt Lake City was stacked that day.

[Fran]

Yeah. And. And Jordan just jumped into the chaos. Filed for. Filed for divorce. It almost seemed like, I'm gonna file before you file. Like it was a race to. To who's going to get it done? Because the rumor is that Jesse was out in LA to record call her daddy. That was the rumor that was on Dumois. She was out in la. She was posting videos of her dancing with Sasha from Dancing with the Stars. And honestly, that gave me a giggle. I thought Jesse is posted on her story saucing with Sasha and Jordan's. Jordan's filing for divorce in. In the courthouse. But I, We. This is one we probably saw coming. You know, the way they talked about their relationship on the show, it seemed like it's been over for a long time. Even this whole last season of them trying to stay together, it just didn't really seem like it was gonna work. And we've known that they've maybe, you know, been living separately and she's. She wanted to go back to her maiden name and all these things that just really started to add up to this relationship is. Is not gonna work. And yeah, I wish we knew more of the details of the prenup situation. We were left on a bit of a cliffhanger with that. And now we're gonna have to see what happens. I don't know. I don't know where we're gonna see what happens because it just. It feels like the Future of all of this is really up in the air at the end. At the end of the week. An article came out too, that the cast had a call at the beginning of March with some ABC executives just trying to get their thoughts out there on. On where their heads were at and the fact that they didn't really. They didn't want to film with Taylor until all of this had been resolved or they had known what had happened at the end of February and clearly they were very uncomfortable with the way it was going. And it sounded like something where they wanted to protect their jobs but also not be filming this crazy situation because they. They didn't want to be around it. It was. It was not a good. It was not a good situation. But at the same time, it's like, oh, they know that they really film every little part of their lives and now if they're on a break, all these things are not filming. What does that mean for the show? And everything just really seems up in the air. Yeah.

[Brianne Fran]

The article that came out with the ABC execs Zoom Call was so insane. It was kind of just like, we don't want to know what's happening. We don't want to see what's happening. And it seemed like the cast members were like, hey, no, like we want to bring attention to this. It seems like even, like the cast had found out a lot more and the. And the women on the show and found out more than what they even knew about what was happening as well. At the end of the day, I'm not sure Mom Talk is going to survive this. Like, I don't. I do not know if the show will continue. As for Jesse and Jordan, it seemed like there were some rumors, allegedly about his past and parties and escorts and the whole thing. And Jesse's getting ready to tell her story, so we'll see if she does do the Call Her Daddy interview. I feel like we can almost expect this Wednesday for. For that to happen, if not this Wednesday, the next. Like, I, I would assume that's what's happening.

[Fran]

Right. You would think it would be as timely as possible.

[Brianne Fran]

Yeah. It just seems like, you know, news hit after news hit with this group. You know, I'm seeing some of them comment on each other's posts. You know, Miranda, I mean, Macy and Michaela commenting about moving to LA and all that. So there is so much going on and I think everyone is wondering, like, will this show even continue? Even with just the other ladies like, will, will Mom Talk survive this? They're probably all asking Themselves. And then we got dad talk. Just trying to, you know, they're, they're taking over the courthouse.

[Fran]

Yeah, yeah, absolutely. They're all in there. Yeah, these guys. Zach's like making tiktoks, ranking the cast of Mormon wives. It's just, it's nuts. There's so many videos, there's so many rumors, there's so many posts. It's really hard to keep up with. It really dominated our feeds all of last week and still into this week of who's answering what DM and who's posting what and who's saying this. And there was allegedly someone that had DM'd a long message to Jace sort of saying that they should be standing with Taylor and Mom talk. And he had pretty much outright answered like, you know, I'm not going to support any sort of child abuse. And the response, I'm gonna, you know, I don't have it in front of me, so I don't know exactly. But the response was like, you know, we, you, you all, you all knew about this 2023 incident. And he was like, well, we've, we've come to learn more. So that's fairly ominous as well that we don't know the details of and, and the, and really what else was said there. But it's, it's just dominating everybody's feed. It's like every other post I feel like I'm seeing. I, I sent this message or someone posted this or someone said that and talking about it and how everyone feels about it. And I saw I was getting crazy theories on tick tock that I almost was in the comments. Like, guys, come on. People were making videos going mega viral, being like, my theory is they never even filmed this season of the Bachelorette. Like, I was like, guys, like, I, I, I'm not. This is, we're going too far in, in the conspiracy here is I met somebody who literally filmed this. And I promise you, he went, he was on the show. Like, it's. Yeah, it was crazy.

[Brianne Fran]

I mean, the theories that people come up with are so, so out there. You're like, almost impressed. I'm like, wow. Yeah, if that was the case, that would be really quite, quite the ruse. Right?

[Fran]

Seriously.

[Brianne Fran]

I mean, wow, that would be something. But that's definitely not what happened.

[Fran]

Yeah, it's like, no, this is all, really all for publicity. I'm like, I don't know if this is the route they would have gone for.

[Brianne Fran]

Yeah.

[Fran]

On that one.

[Brianne Fran]

I don't think that this is the, you know, when they say like all publicity is good publicity. I don't think this one's that. I think that this one's bad publicity. I think they're not happy with this. But, you know, I. As for the guys that were on the show, they kind of have a market right now where they could pop up on Tick Tock and be like, I was supposed to be on the show and they might get some followers because now it's like this mystery. I also saw people talking about like,

[Fran]

if you were, they're still under contract, apparently.

[Brianne Fran]

Yeah, that makes sense.

[Fran]

Like they had a big meeting, they had a call with Warner Brothers and I saw this article that said that there they were like all told that they're still under contract.

[Brianne Fran]

Yeah. I saw people talking about if you were the villain of this season, you got to be hyped, like, because there's always, there's always a villain on every season.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Brianne Fran]

If you're this guy, you're like, oh, yeah, not too shabby.

[Fran]

I have seen some of the guys on Tick Tock joking about, you know, not having any money because they're like, oh, I did. I didn't work for months to go on this show and now the show is supposed to air now.

[Brianne Fran]

It's not.

[Noah]

They do get paid like not a lot, I'm sure, but like they do get paid to be on the show, right?

[Fran]

Yeah, but it's like not a lot.

[Brianne Fran]

It doesn't. You know, they probably pales in comparison

[Fran]

to what they would make in their real jobs.

[Brianne Fran]

Right. They're not just like, oh, we'll pay you your salary of what you're making at your job.

[Noah]

Yeah, yeah.

[Brianne Fran]

So. Well, listen, I'm sure more and more will come out and I am excited for Jesse. Yeah. I'm interested to see if Jesse goes on call her daddy and talks. We shall see.

[Fran]

Same Chapel roan.

[Brianne Fran]

Back in the news. Security. This time around, Jude Law's 11 year old daughter has come into play. We got Brazil in the mix. This is, this is a wild story that I was trying to keep up with and I, and I was so confused what was happening. I was like, wait, her security. She got her security to yell at 11 year old. Now she's not allowed in Brazil. It's a, is a whole thing.

[Fran]

Yeah. So I, so I have the original screenshot. So backstory is Jude Law and Catherine Harding. Cat Harding. They share an 11 year old, 11 year old daughter. She is now married to a Brazilian soccer player, very well known, Georginio Jude Law Zacks.

[Brianne Fran]

Yes, yes.

[Fran]

And he put up A story because there's Lollapalooza in Brazil is happening this weekend. And he posted a story where he said, I went through a very upsetting situation with my family earlier today. My wife Kat is in Sao Paulo for Lollapalooza Brazil. This morning my daughter woke up incredibly excited. She even made a sign because she was so happy to see an artist she really admires or used to admire at Chapel Roan. By coincidence, they're staying at the same hotel as this artist. During breakfast, the artist walked past their table. My daughter, like any child, recognized or got excited and just wanted to make sure it was really her. And the worst part is she didn't even approach her. She simply walked past the singer's table, looked to confirm it was her, smiled and went back to sit with her mom. She didn't say anything, didn't ask for anything. What happened next was completely disproportionate. A large security guard came over to their table while they were still having breakfast and began speaking in an extremely aggressive manner to both my wife and my daughter, saying that she shouldn't allow my daughter to, quote, disrespect or quote, harass other people. Honestly, I don't know at what point simply walking past the table and looking to see if someone is there can be considered harassment. He even said he would file a complaint against them with the hotel. While my 11 year old daughter was sitting there in tears, my daughter was extremely shaken and cried a lot. I live with football, public exposure and well known people for many years and I understand very well what respect and boundaries are. What happened there was not that. It was just a child admiring someone. It's sad to see this kind of treatment coming from those who should understand the importance of fans. At the end of the day, they're the ones who build all of this. I sincerely hope this serves as a moment of reflection. No one should have to go through this, especially not a child. To tag Chapel Roan again, without your fans, you would be nothing. And to the fans, she does not deserve your affection. He also included a picture, a screenshot of Chapel run's Instagram, just her Instagram, and a screenshot of his daughter's sign that says, you know, hot to go. I'm watching Chapel Room little, little homemade sign that explodes. Everyone, everyone freaks out because Chapel's had her fair share of run ins with fans and paparazzi and her attitude has begin to become a hot topic of conversation. A video went viral of her in Paris recently of fans trying to get her to Sign shit. And she started filming them back. And it was a whole big thing. She got on Instagram, posted Instagram story saying, this was not my security. You know, maybe it was, by the

[Noah]

way, security at Lalapalooza, like a few hours after this, before she went on Instagram, she like, had publicly on stage, like, thanked her security. So people were jumping on that too, being like, look at her, she's thanking her security after that.

[Fran]

I know which, which is unfortunate though, that one I'm not gonna jump on because it's like, it's not like she said, wow, like Brazil, thank you so much to my security. Like, it was, it was in the midst of thanking everybody. It was like my team, my security, my fan. Like, it was like, thanks to everyone for being here. It wasn't like an one, A one shout out to security, but the articles made it sound like she was like, shout out to my security. But that's. She, that's not what she did. But no, she posted a whole video saying on her story that it wasn't her. It's not how she would react to a, to a child or it was no one from her secure. That was no one from her security.

[Noah]

Doesn't hate children.

[Fran]

Doesn't hate children.

[Brianne Fran]

I mean, listen, this whole story is so insane. And if that's what happened, it's so ridiculous. Like, it's an 11 year old girl, she's walking by her table being like, oh, is that chaperone? Doesn't bother her. Like, that's gonna happen. Like, I'm sorry, she's a little girl. Like, it's, it's so crazy.

[Fran]

Chapel was trying to say, she, she's like, I didn't see, I didn't see this mother, I didn't see this daughter. I didn't see any of them. I was just, I just had breakfast at the hotel. No, she was like, no one bothered me. I had no issues in my head. I was like, yeah, no one bothered you because you're security guards. And then the mom, she posted a video as well, saying she was like, it was not hotel security. It was, it was some sort of personal security. It like it was at hotel security. Because if my first thought was my theory was maybe Chapel Ron's been so nuts about this that her personal security had detailed to all the hotel security. Like, be on high alert. She doesn't want anyone bothering her. Like, this is a big, this is a whole big thing. And maybe, you know, hotel security took it a little too far. But now the mom is saying it was not hotel security. I feel like her own security deserve

[Noah]

the benefit of the doubt at this point. Like, she probably does so much. I know I always do where she is. One of those people are. Now everyone's like, saying that you have boundaries isn't, like, an excuse to be an asshole to everyone.

[Fran]

Yeah, yeah.

[Brianne Fran]

Like, yeah, that is. That is.

[Noah]

And it's like, she's probably, like, whether she told the security, like, act like this or not, the way that she acts and, like, is kind of like she is empowering her security to, like, go after these people.

[Brianne Fran]

When it's like, right. A kid, especially a little kid, it's

[Noah]

like, who didn't say anything by the table.

[Brianne Fran]

Just. Just noticed that it was her and was excited.

[Noah]

Her video apology just seemed, like, so disingenuous. Like, like, oh, I don't know what this is. Like, she's in bed. Like, I don't know what this is about. I don't hate children. Like, that wasn't my security. Like,

[Brianne Fran]

sounds like security.

[Fran]

Yeah. I just think that she has. She has such a reputation now, and there's no way that her security isn't working overtime with or without her knowledge of keeping people away from her. Because I'm. I'm also sure her team of people are saying to her, security, keep people away from her. Because anytime a fan interacts with her, it turns into a disaster, and it's a PR nightmare. Like, her. Her team is probably, like, hey, we probably can't have people approach her because it goes viral that she's a bitch to her fans. And then. And. And it's a problem. So, like, just keep her away from everybody.

[Brianne Fran]

Yeah. And then it ends up on the total opposite end where it's like, you can't even look at her. Yeah.

[Fran]

And you're in Brazil, where. Oh, my God, they're passionate.

[Brianne Fran]

Very passionate.

[Fran]

They are passionate. The Brazilians are the best of the best, and they love their people and they support and they ride for their people. And I can only imagine, like, the prep of, like, oh, Chapel's going to Lapuza. The mayor, the Rio mayor posted that she's, you know, no longer available. She's no longer allowed.

[Noah]

She can never perform it like that.

[Fran]

She can never perform at. She can never perform at the Lollapalooza in Brazil anymore. This is what they say. This is what he said. Posted on X saying, I hate that I just said X. Sorry. I mean that as long as I'm in charge of our city, this young lady Chapel Roan will never perform a Tor Mundo no to Rio. I doubt Shakira would do that.

[Brianne Fran]

You know what's. It's so funny because, like, an artist, celebrity, they work their whole lives for that moment. For somebody to say, come to Brazil. And now it's don't come to Brazil.

[Noah]

People. Yeah. People are like, if you piss off the Brazil.

[Brianne Fran]

If you get slapped with a don't come to Brazil, you got to be worried. You got to be worried about your career after that.

[Fran]

Yeah. Yeah. Loves you 100%. You don't. You really don't want to mess with Brazil.

[Noah]

No. You.

[Fran]

And having this happen there is. Is not good. Yeah. Noah's right. It was very. She's laying in bed. She's like, I don't know. I didn't see that. I didn't see a mom. I didn't see a kid. I just had my breakfast. I don't think that, you know, this wasn't my security. So I was like, look, she didn't even know. The daughter came back. The daughter came back to the table and wasn't even sure if it was her because we're so used to seeing the full. The makeup, the outfits, the performer, chaperone, and without all that. I think the. The little girl was like, oh, I think it's her, but I'm not sure, but just didn't even do anything at all. So just another PR nightmare for her. And it's. Get. It's hard out here for the fans that love her and want to defend her. And you see it. It's like, oh, she. She's. She's. She deserves her. Her peace and her security and all that. But at the same time, it's like, at a certain point, this is just part of it. You gotta be. You gotta be nice to people. It's not that hard.

[Noah]

She. She, like, could do a SIA type thing where, like, she doesn't need to make all these public appearances. Like, she isn't, like, shying away from, like, going to award shows and, like, doing all these things. So, like.

[Fran]

Yeah, the problem is she just wants to be a superstar without any of the. Of the fan. So she wants to be a superstar with a superstar, a performer without the celebrity that's attached to it. And she's always going to struggle. Like, there's always going to be a struggle with that. She can't be performing arenas and then not expect fans to be waiting outside for her to sign things and get mad if she blows past them. Like, it's. It's. It's part of the industry, and she does not want it. I actually, in that Variety article, I think it was Miley saying that when. When sort of this started with Chapel, that she had reached out to her to sort of talk to her about the balance of. Of being an artist and dealing with the fame, because it's. Miley has done a pretty good job of figuring out how to still be the superstar that she is, but keeping a lot of her. Her life private still.

[Jenna Dewan]

And

[Fran]

there seems to be a disconnect for Chapel.

[Brianne Fran]

Yeah. At some point, you just come across, like, a huge asshole. But.

[Noah]

But she just, like, might be a huge asshole. Like, have you thought about that? Like, she just might be an asshole.

[Brianne Fran]

Could be the case.

[Noah]

Could very well be like, people like Harry Styles are like, I've seen videos of them where they're like, hey, do you mind? Like, I'm like. Like, I'm just trying to, like, walk around. And they do it in, like, a normal, nice way. You don't always have to, like, attack like a fan. Just, like, coming up.

[Brianne Fran]

Yeah. Speaking of PR nightmare, Justin Timberlake's video of his arrest was released. Yeah. My goodness gracious. Is it funnier than we ever thought it could be. He gets pulled over, and he's asked like, what are you doing in town? And this man just couldn't find it in himself to be like, I'm a singer. I'm a musician. He hit the. I'm on a world tour. The cops like, what does that mean? What world tour? And Justin's like, it's really hard to explain. It's like. Is actually quite simple. You're a singer. Oh, I'm a singer. I'm a musician. I'm. I'm. I'm performing.

[Noah]

He kept muttering like. He's like, world. The world tour.

[Fran]

The world.

[Brianne Fran]

It's the world tour. Obviously, it's the world tour.

[Fran]

And then before, he finally is like, I'm Justin Timberlake.

[Brianne Fran]

I'm Justin Timberlake. Like, he said, like, I'm Ron Burgundy. I'm Justin Timberlake.

[Fran]

And the cop was like, just. I was like, let me see some id.

[Brianne Fran]

Yeah. Wait, you're Justin Timberlake. Let me see your license.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Brianne Fran]

Obviously, the cop has heard the name Justin Timberlake before. It's not like, oh, he didn't know Justin Timberlake, but he's looking at Justin Timberlake. You're Justin Timberlake. Yeah, I'm Justin Timberlake. Gets out of the car, performs all the tests. Just, you know, it's a skunk.

[Noah]

These are hard tests.

[Brianne Fran]

He's like. He's like, these are Pretty hard,

[Fran]

you

[Brianne Fran]

know, These are like, really hard. Like, I could sing, but I can't walk a straight line. These are really hard tests. And then whoever was there, whether it was his publicist, pr, somebody who worked for him, was like, can you just do me a favor? Because you love Bye Bye Bye or Sexy Back, which is so fucking funny. And I have to say, Sexy Back is truly one of my favorite songs of all time. But you're hitting the cop with like, you gotta love Sexy Back. No, come on, let him slide. He gets booked. You know, they throw him in the slammer. He's cracking jokes as he's filling out his. His information. They have him under white. He looks back, he's like, white. And then he's like, I'm just kidding. Like, he is like fully under the influence cracking all these jokes. They throw him in the cell. They're like, you're going to be sleeping here. He's like, in.

[Fran]

He.

[Brianne Fran]

In here. I'm going to be sleeping in here. They're like, we got blankets for. You can make calls. The. The video is. It's so funny, but also so insane. Like, when we can see the entirety of this video, I'm like, how do. How do we get to see all this?

[Fran]

Yeah, it. It's crazy. It did almost feel like he thought he was being punked or something the whole time. And he. He, like, didn' real the way that he was talking to. To some of these cops and his team, you know, they. They didn't want this coming out. They said it was gonna do irreparable harm and. And damaged to him and his. His reputation. And to that, I'm like, well, maybe don't fucking drink and drive guy. Like, I. It's like I. I know everyone's talking about the video and we're laughing about the video, but the video only happened because this idiot was drunk driving. So I'm like, you. You deserve to be punished for this. And you're like laughing it up, making. No, it's. It's insane.

[Brianne Fran]

There is actually nothing that gets me more worked up or grinds my gear more than drunk driving. I hate it. I don't know why anybody does it. It's like not. Not especially now, always, but like, there's Uber Lyft.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Brianne Fran]

You're like.

[Fran]

You said, you're Justin Timberland.

[Brianne Fran]

Timberlake. You can get home. So the fact that you're drunk driving is so inexcusable. I do not care. It's so fudgeing insane. But them being like, please, for the Love of God, because you love sexy back, do not release this. Do not book him. Like, it did ruin the world tour also.

[Noah]

Did he not? When this came out of.

[Brianne Fran]

Is this going to ruin the world tour? It. It ruined the world tour. And his idiot ass was drunk driving.

[Noah]

So didn't he make a statement, like, after he had been arrested, like, and he kind of still tried to make it seem like he only had, like, a drink or he's like, even if it's. I don't know why, I might be wrong, but I feel like he did where he still tried to frame it in a way of, like, I only had a drink. But even that's not right. But it's like, clearly he was just up.

[Brianne Fran]

There is no way. I mean, on. It is so clear how fucked up he is. He cannot even stand.

[Fran]

Like, it's that. That the. The line test was impossible to him. One.

[Jenna Dewan]

He.

[Fran]

He couldn't. It could not. He could not comprehend when to start, when to stop, how many steps it was. You failed the test. That's why he got. That's why he got put in the

[Brianne Fran]

slammer, by the way. These tests are really hard.

[Noah]

It's like. No, they're. They're really not. They're. They're only hard if you're drunk.

[Brianne Fran]

Yeah, if you're drunk and you're drunk, you're an. Who's drunk driving. So.

[Fran]

And it was just so, like, really. Just unattractive. Just seeing him like, like, slur his words. And I. The, The.

[Jenna Dewan]

The.

[Fran]

Him making a joke about his race being white on the sheet was just like, I. What, like, is that a joke that he makes often?

[Brianne Fran]

That.

[Fran]

Yeah, I was like, and you're making that joke to cops in Sag Harbor?

[Brianne Fran]

Like, I, I like the fact, like, I mean, I can't believe he was sitting there being like, I'm going to make this joke right now.

[Fran]

And he's talking to the cops. Like, you guys are really. You guys are really giving me, like, the whole thing. And the cops are like, yeah, we're, you know, we're. We're. We're treating you just like we would treat anybody else. We appreciate your cooperation. Like, we. We got to go through everything that we would do. He's like, yeah, I mean, you guys are really just. You're really just making me do all this stuff. It's like, yeah, we are.

[Brianne Fran]

They treated him like they should after seeing he was drunk driving. Like, he wanted the special treatment all because of. Bye, Bye, bye. Ain't gonna happen, buddy.

[Fran]

No, no, it's not. And you know, we. I looked at you when we. After we'd been in the airport all day in Seattle and we got back to the car, I just said, this is gonna ruin the tour. It's just like we. It's. It's crazy. It's crazy to see it all in this. In this way where you do. They do release this footage to the world, and it was a full play by play. There's no way he can deny not being drunk, not clearly being under the influence while. While driving. And that's just. It's really as inexcusable as it gets.

[Brianne Fran]

For sure. Yeah. I mean, I. I will never get over the white.

[Fran]

It's hard.

[Brianne Fran]

Yeah. No, no. He's like, it's hard to explain. I'm Justin Timberlake.

[Fran]

I know. And it's like, you're a fucking singer or musician.

[Brianne Fran]

What was so hard about that? He's like, I'm. I'm on a world tour.

[Jenna Dewan]

Right?

[Fran]

Like in his drunken state, he was trying to be like, humble. He's trying to not come off. Which is. Which is funny because it's like he. Here's the thing. It could have gone both. Either way. And you would make fun of him for both ways. It's like, oh, he's trying to be like, oh, I'm on a world tour. Instead of just being like, I'm Justin Timber. Like. But if he was arrested and he was an asshole to the cops, he was like, I'm Justin Timberlake. You're gonna arrest me? Like, I'm on a world tour. I'm Justin Timberlake. You don't know who I am.

[Brianne Fran]

He be.

[Fran]

He'd be crushed for that. So he was. He was trying to be humble and then he was.

[Brianne Fran]

World tour.

[Fran]

Yeah. Like, I'm. And he's like, I'm Justin Timberlake. And you know, it's bad when you're like, I'm Justin Timberlake and you're in a state where the cops like, I'm gonna have to see some ID because you're not looking like Justin Timberlake right now.

[Brianne Fran]

So insane. Reminds me of when Zach Bryan got arrested and was like, I'm a 27 year old kid.

[Fran]

Yeah, exactly.

[Brianne Fran]

Yeah.

[Fran]

Like, you're like, you sound so stupid.

[Brianne Fran]

And it's.

[Fran]

And you're. And. And you're really. You're getting caught with your pants pulled down. Like you. You're driving drunk like a idiot. Like, now the whole world's gonna watch you try and walk in a straight line and you can't do it.

[Brianne Fran]

Can't do it. Oh, my God. It is just. Is an insane video. And it. Dude goes on and on. It just goes on and on.

[Fran]

It's. Every time I would open social media, there was a new clip. I'm like, where are all these clips coming from?

[Noah]

No, they were releasing them in, like, parts. It was like.

[Brianne Fran]

It was like.

[Noah]

It was a Netflix series. It was like, part three coming tomorrow.

[Fran]

Yeah, it was like new. New Timberlake video just dropped. Stay tuned for part two in three hours. Like, it was like every single time I opened. I opened Instagram, a new video was being.

[Noah]

Who is dropping this?

[Brianne Fran]

Like, I. I don't get it. It's insane. So insane.

[Fran]

I guess the court. Like, it's because it was lawyers. The lawyers had put the tap, like, the town. Because the lawyers had put in, like, that. They wanted. Wanted it to be sealed, and that

[Brianne Fran]

got denied, obviously, the world tour. All right, that wraps up the topics for today.

[Fran]

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[Brianne Fran]

All right, let's get into the weekly Watch Report where we talk about the things we watch this week. Weekly Watch report on Monday. Weekly Watch report on Monday. Weekly Watch report on Monday. Weekly Watch report on Monday. So, honestly, I. I feel like I. I didn't watch that much this week. There's a lot of basketball on. We're still in March. It's March. It is March. Our team.

[Fran]

March Madness.

[Brianne Fran]

March Madness. Duke ended up winning both games this weekend. So that's big news.

[Fran]

My bracket still alive.

[Brianne Fran]

Let's go, guys.

[Noah]

I'm not going to, like, brag. My bracket is, like, killing it.

[Brianne Fran]

Really?

[Noah]

Yeah. I'm, like, number one in all my things.

[Brianne Fran]

Oh. But, yeah, we'll see what happens. You never know. It's March.

[Fran]

Yeah, we, unfortunately, are Prairie View Panthers. It was maybe the worst March Madness game I've ever watched in my Life. So that was tough.

[Brianne Fran]

It was so fucking bad. It was so terrible.

[Fran]

It was. It was. Florida's very good. And those guys on Florida are so tall.

[Noah]

Yeah, Florida's not looking too hot right now, but.

[Fran]

Oh, are they losing?

[Noah]

They were, but they're up by 2 right now. But they were down. Yeah, pretty much the whole game.

[Fran]

I said there's a guy that's seven nine. I said that. That's. You can't be. I thought it was a made up height.

[Noah]

Is that real?

[Fran]

Yes. He doesn't play. He's like.

[Jenna Dewan]

He.

[Fran]

He's on the bench. He played in the last game. That was like a whole big thing that he played.

[Brianne Fran]

It almost feels like illegal to be that tall on a team. I feel like there should be a height cap. Like you're showed him your whim.

[Fran]

They showed him dunk. He barely had to jump.

[Brianne Fran]

Just has to go on his tippy toes.

[Fran]

Pretty much.

[Brianne Fran]

Yeah. That's insane. That is insane. All right, let's get into the things that we watch. Survivor talked about it on Friday's episode. I'm gonna give that episode. I'll give it a B plus. I'll give it a B plus. Came back around the second half. Get past the Zach Brown band stuff and it was a good episode. I don't think it deserves to have the lowest rating on IMDb because the lead up to tribal was really good. So I'll give Survivor B plus. Summer house this week. Summer house this week was. Was emotional. They had a really good conversation on this episode during their dinner. You know, the spotlight was kind of on west again and Sierra to kind of give him give another apology to Sierra for, you know, fudgeing up in the past. Going to talk to, you know, news outlets and media about how he did not like her. And then he kind of said that like, you know, seeing it happen with Jesse and Lexi made him realize like how bad that all really was. And then Sierra opened up talking about being the first black woman on Summer House and how she has to deal with or dealt with commentary around that and what she builds up in her head is going to come her way if she acts a certain way or with guys. And then KJ opened up about himself and his sisters and having to see what his sisters deal with and, you know, everything they go through with being black cast members on this show. So it was. It was really nice to see the support of the house during this conversation and for them to be able to talk about it and for them to air it as well. And then you know, Kyle kind of like gave his point of view where he was like, you know, as a white guy, I can just pop off and I don't got to worry about what people are going to say. But, you know, you guys do. Yeah, she does often. Which he does often. So acknowledging that privilege and I thought it was just like a really good conversation that was shown on the show. And I think now we're getting a little glimpse of something happening with Sierra and West going forward. And I don't know what happens, but it seems like they're flirting again. And then it looks like some. He does something and everyone's like, why would you do that? So I don't know. I don't know what happened there.

[Fran]

Yeah, I. It seems like a lot is going to go down between the two of them. But yeah, he was. West was clearly extremely drunk when they were playing this game of spin the bottle. Basically, like. But it's like truth or dare. Spin the bottle. And he's, you know, rubbing Sierra's leg and touching her back and everyone's like, dude, what are you doing? But he's like, can't even speak a word. He was incoherent.

[Brianne Fran]

So it seems Sierra broke the fourth wall and looked at the camera like at least twice, which I love. She was like, are you seeing what this guy's doing? So funny.

[Fran]

I love them playing that game, by the way. I was like, make summer fun again. You know, like they. It felt like they were laughing. There's a bunch of single people, they're kissing. They're enjoying their time. But I totally agree with everything you, Everything you said about that dinner. I think it's so important for the rest of the cast to hear Sierra and KJ and Mia and everything that they have to say about being on the show. Especially like, you know, Kyle had said in. In a place like this, filming a show in a place like the Hamptons too. And it. It has to be good for west as well to hear Sierra sort of explain how she felt and what. What's. What it's like for her to be a black woman on this show who has been dating white guys. And the. The feedback that she gets from that and, you know, the commentary she gets and everything non stop. It's. It's really hard. And you. And you feel for her because she seems to get so in her head about some of these things. And I think the quick judgment is like, oh, why is she doing that? And it's like, oh, because we do not understand how she is. How she is feeling in this relationship. It's. It's so different for her in this situation. So I love that she was able to say that all to West Face and to really say it to the. To the whole table and have the rest of the house. House support them and see what happens. I, you know, west and Sierra clearly have an attraction to each other. They have a pull to each other. I, I don't know what's going to happen or if anything's going to happen. It's if they just can finally, like, find a way to. To be in a good place. It kind of made it seem like west maybe Wesley kiss somebody. I don't know. It seems like something had happened that. That was. That was not good. But the, the preview for the rest of the season looks fantastic. Carl and Kyle are getting into it maybe over. Over Amanda. There's some more commentary from Amanda on. On Ben. I. It's. It's crazy. Looks like Ben's got a girl that he's bringing into the house. So it really is seeming to turn into like quite a. Quite a chaotic rest of the season.

[Brianne Fran]

Yeah, this season looks good. The rest of the season. I mean, the whole season's been really, really good, I think, and really fun. And the different cast members have each brought something to the show. The little clip of, like, Amanda talking about, like, Ben did try to fuck me in Italy. I'm like, justice for Bailey making that comment. Like, my God, you know, because she, she read that and she got torn apart for it. But I will give Summer House an A minus this week. I think it's really ramping up and I think. And I can not wait to see what happens between Carl and Kyle.

[Fran]

Can. Can I also just say, really love the idea of Carl and Bailey. Like, I know that they kind of said that they had a little bit of a, of a lunch date or a hangout to catch Carl up on everything that was going on. And I saw the clips of them doing, like, hot ones and they were all joking about how they would be ones to hook up or date or whatever. Lindsay's like, make out, make out. I'm like Lindsay. But. But I really do think they'd be so cute. I feel like they have the same energy.

[Brianne Fran]

I think they would be cute, too. That would be cute. And KJ and Dara are cute.

[Fran]

They're adorable.

[Brianne Fran]

Currently dating, going strong. Good for them. They are in love. And he was on watch what happens live and gushing over. Over each other. So that was really cute. Moving on to Southern charm I mean, oh, my God. Oh, my God, these people.

[Fran]

I mean, tough part of the reunion for. For the guys.

[Brianne Fran]

What a tough showing for Craig. My.

[Fran]

Yeah. Was not good.

[Brianne Fran]

My goodness. I mean. And then, you know, I. I don't understand, like, Austin, like, just be honest about what's happening with Sally. Like, come on. I. I don't know. Like, he's. He's worried about his ex girlfriend, the whole thing, and it's kind of making Sally looks silly. And these guys, they give me a headache, man. They. They're. It's like, they're never gonna grow up. I don't know. I don't know.

[Fran]

Well, sometimes you just hear them and. And I. I want. I go, oh, no. Like, I know. I think Austin gets defensive because in his mind, it seems he thinks everyone's pushing him and Sally to be together. Sally's pushing it or whatever. So he, like, becomes very defensive and comes off in not a great way. And I really didn't like what they were saying about Sally. You know, she wants to be a wife, act like a wife, and she's out too much, and her body count, all this. I'm like, bro, and I'm glad Andy kind of called him out to be like, yeah, you're not exactly one to be talking about body count around Charleston. Like, meanwhile, Austin, then we're talking about how they would, like, run around Case street and do whatever they wanted for years. It's like, yeah, you. You did.

[Brianne Fran]

No, the double standard is crazy.

[Fran]

It's. It's crazy. I'm like, so. So Sally, who is single, needs to be sitting at home crocheting and cleaning the kitchen so that. So that she can. So that she can become a wife. Like, give me a break. She's having fun. She goes out and they're like, she's out all nights. And it's like, so what?

[Brianne Fran]

Yeah, I also think, like, this, like. Like. Like wives can't be fun and, like, go out. Like, I don't. I don't understand that.

[Fran]

Like, totally.

[Brianne Fran]

It's so annoying. Like, people. I mean, people do that shit all the time. Like. Like, if you post it. I've had people. If I post a picture, like, you're a wife. And I'm like, yeah, and my husband tells me that I look good into. He's like, you look so good. You need to post that. Show yourself off. Da, da, da. So, like, I can't like the way that. Oh, God. It's. It's.

[Fran]

Yeah, I know. It's. It's not good. And. And I Just sometimes I just wish, like, I want to shake these guys and be like, sometimes you just got to take it. Like, they're all talking to Craig, and immediately it's so defensive. It's right back to them, like, well, you guys have all done spats. I was like, no, no, you're. Now you're deflecting. We're talking about you. It's not. Oh, everybody else is messed up. And that's a. That's an excuse on why I can mess up, because they were saying that, I guess off camera, he had yelled at Sally in front of her parents, and multiple people were there to see it happen. And it. It just. It wasn't a good showing. I just, like, I just want these guys to. To just eat it for a second. You messed up. Eat it, say you're sorry and. And move on and try and be better. But it's the constant push back and being defensive, and I'm. You know, I'm doing all this work on myself and all these things, and I'm so much better. And everyone's like, no, you're not.

[Brianne Fran]

Yeah. And by the way, spare me with the. I'm an empath.

[Fran]

Yeah, no, that's.

[Brianne Fran]

That's tough, that stuff. Please. Like, the m. When. When Andy was like, you got empath spray from a magician.

[Fran]

Yeah, that. I couldn't believe those. Those. None of those words. One of those words should have been in the same. No, no.

[Brianne Fran]

It was literally like, Mad Libs. And it's. It's insane. It's so insane. I will give that a B because I'm just like, like, gross out by the behavior a lot of times, honestly. Love story. Holy shit. This show fucking plummeted. My God. I. Wow.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Brianne Fran]

Wow.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Brianne Fran]

This episode was a stunner.

[Fran]

Yeah. It really seems like they're trying to. To build up the. The drama in their relationship towards the end of just, like, how not on the same page they were at this point in their relationship, or. Or so it seems. But they. They just. They just fought for 45 minutes, and that was the entire episode.

[Noah]

Some of the worst crying, fake crying I have ever seen on screen, ever.

[Brianne Fran]

Absolutely stunning. The Princess Diana stuff. No, I was genuinely like, what is happening in this show right now?

[Fran]

I was like, I wonder if any of that was actually based. I was wondering if any of that was, like, actually based in. In reality. I'm sure it wasn't. I'm sure it wasn't, because.

[Brianne Fran]

Why.

[Fran]

I don't think there's any way that they would. That they would know that. But because you kind of think. You, like, think about the comparison and you hear him in the episode be like, he's he there. That's the monarchy. Like, I, you know, took my bike to school. Like, it's just. It's just. It seemed like such a crazy fight that they just had for so. For so long. And, you know, I still really like Sarah Pigeon. I think she's doing the best with what she's been given.

[Brianne Fran]

You know, you're right. She is doing the best at what she's been given. But this episode was so fun. Was so bad. I have to give.

[Fran]

It was just.

[Brianne Fran]

I have to give this one a day. I have to give this episode a day. This might be one of the first Ds I've ever thrown out because I couldn't believe what I was watching.

[Fran]

Oh, yeah, yeah, it was.

[Brianne Fran]

It was a bad one.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Brianne Fran]

And that is all I watched for anything New Summer House.

[Fran]

I'll give an Somehow so given A minus. Southern Charm Part one. I'll give a B plus. Love Story. Love Story.

[Brianne Fran]

I'll give a C. That's nice.

[Fran]

Yeah, that's, you know, C. A C. Shrinking. I'm caught up on shrinking. This is just the best show. I love shrinking. I know. I. I say it every time. It's just. It's just a really, really good show. Shrinking is an A minus. There's a budding romance between Jason Siegel's character and Kobe Smolders from. Also from How I Met yout Mother, Robin. Which is kind of crazy because of course in How I Met yout Mother, there was never any crossover between the two of them romantically. But now in this, there is. And they're like on a date. And I was like, ah, this feels wrong, but I like it. Like you're like, ah, no, Robin. What? But it's, it's. It's such a cute show and one of my favorites. On the plane, I caught up on all the Chicago's some up to date.

[Brianne Fran]

I did notice that.

[Fran]

Caught up on all the Chicago's Fire and Med. I'll give a B. PD is like a C plus. PD has just been falling off for me. I. I don't know what it is. I just haven't been as invested. And I think like, having Haley and Jay back for the crossover reminded me of how much I loved it when they were on it. And now they're gone. So that was like, now that they're gone again, I'm like, ah, they're gone again. But some good stuff with With Paxton Hall, Yoshida's character on Chicago Med. He's a little background Ria. He plays a pediatrician. He's a pediatric doctor in the emergency room who also was a child star acting on television. He was like on the end of like a. Like a Nickelodeon show. Like, it was. It was called Nick of Time and it was him. And now he's got himself in quite the dilemma because he is. He has. He's got a sick dad and he may have to do a reboot to help support his dad.

[Brianne Fran]

Oh, wow. That's actually a good plot.

[Fran]

Yeah. So that's. So that's happening right now. I almost actually started to cry. I held it together because I didn't want you to see me crying at Chicago Med.

[Brianne Fran]

I would never judge. Why would I. I would never judge somebody crying at a television show.

[Fran]

I know, but it wasn't even you. It was just like everybody, like, I was like, everybody around me is like, I don't need to be crying on the plane to Chicago Med. There's one story. It's like a. This adorable married couple. The husband was terminally ill, basically fighting for his life to stay alive till the birth of his daughter. And he's like making all these videos for her and the daughter. The baby's finally born. And I was like, I was like, I'm going to sob in my. In my seat. I held it together. This episode is sponsored by Better Help. I think there's tons of times you get stressed out. There's pressures in life, maybe a little bit of burnout, where things are starting to pile up and you're not sure how to handle it. Well, therapy is so great for that and being able to talk it out and talk through all those things. It can be challenging to make time for therapy better. Help make scheduling and attending your weekly sessions easy because it's all online. You can do phone, video or message chat according to your schedule. With over 30,000 therapists, BetterHelp is the world's largest online therapy platform, having served over 6 million people globally. And it works with an average rating of 4.9 out of 5 for a live session based on over 1.7 million client reviews. If your therapist isn't the right fit, you can switch anytime, easily and at no extra cost. Prioritize your well being with better help. Visit betterhelp.com office to get 10% off your first month. That's betterhelp. H E-L-P.com office the pit. I'm all caught up. Very good. This was a this was a really good episode. The pit's just an A. I don't know if I graded the 10 last week, because I think I was behind. I watched 10 and 11, and this last one, you know, they always leave you on kind of a cliffhanger. I'm really into the. The drama with Langdon, and I wish I remembered all their names.

[Noah]

Who are you? Like, whose side are you on right now, Langdon or Santos?

[Fran]

I understand. Santos is frustration. It's hard to pick a side because I get where she's coming from, but at the same time, it's like, if Langdon has done the work and is trying to be better, is that. Is that okay? Or do I fall in the side with Santos where it's like, you're stealing drugs from the hospital. You. You actually shouldn't be a doctor. Yeah, like that. I kind of think that's final straw. You shouldn't be a doctor anymore. Which I totally see that.

[Noah]

Yeah. And I think a lot of people are saying that apology he gave wasn't really, like, the greatest apology.

[Fran]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's. That's super fair. But I mean, that there's a. That storyline with the kid in the car was really sad. It's interesting to see what's going on with

[Jenna Dewan]

God.

[Fran]

I don't. I literally don't know any of their names. It's so bad. It's like. I watch and I'm like. But it's. What are. You know. You know, I'm talking about her and her sister. Her sister has a boyfriend, and she's feeling like. Yes.

[Noah]

Yeah.

[Brianne Fran]

I don't.

[Fran]

And I. I feel for her. She's having a tough season. She's got the deposition. She's getting put under this. She's dealing with her sister. She's clearly in a. In a. In a tough spot right now as well. And talk about timely. The Pit does it extremely well. They had a situation where a woman was detained by ICE officers and had hurt her shoulder in some way and was taken into the hospital by these two officers. One who, you know, completely covers his face the whole time he's in the hospital. And workers are leaving the hospital because they're nervous, and people are leaving their waiting room because they're nervous. And Robbie's trying to deal with keeping the. The ER running when they are in there and scaring everybody. And this. This woman who is just like, I just want to tell my daughter where I am. And they run off. They take her, and one of the other guys, the nurses, gets arrested because he tries to Jump in, defend her. So I just. Once again, I just. I think the Pit does it so extremely well. It's so timely and it's really feels like present day real life. So that's an A for sure. It's really, really good. And I kind of think that's all I want. I've. I watched the episode one of Southern Hospitality, the new season. I have to catch up. I'm excited to watch. I loved last season of Southern Hospitality, so I'm excited for this one. Episode one. I still was like, okay, Emmy, you're. You're is deranged as always. Like, it's. I. It's just a really. The lying and the. That these guys have been pulling on each other on this show, it really is. It really is crazy. After the last season's reunion, which was such a show, and I'm pretty sure that's it. I have to catch up. On Grey's Anatomy. I saw a spoiler. Like, I didn't see a spoiler. I saw a post that was like, grey's Anatomy kills. Killed somebody off. I don't know who. I. I almost clicked. But then I was like, I'll watch.

[Brianne Fran]

I'll.

[Fran]

I'll watch the episode to find out. But that is everything I watched.

[Noah]

You definitely forgot paradise.

[Fran]

Oh, I did forget paradise. Thank you, Noah. The Monday drops really hard for me with. With weekly Watch Report. Like, by the time the. It's a whole new Monday's coming around. I watched the episode a week ago. Finally. That's all I'm gonna say. Finally. Xavier's looking his wife in the face. I don't know what happened. I don't know what's going on. Seems like she's okay, but Gary. Gary was pulling some shady shit. And we knew it. We knew it's happened. We knew Gary was pulling that shady.

[Noah]

Like, what was his goal?

[Fran]

I don't know.

[Noah]

Blew up that bomb, like, just kill everyone there. Because.

[Fran]

Well, here's the thing I'm thinking, like, is he. He. Is it. It almost feels like he was trying to kidnap her back. Like, it was like, Terry's fine. Like, Terry left with the group, I think, like, on purpose.

[Noah]

Yeah. I don't really understand what his plan was because whether he, like, the bomb wasn't his idea from the start. So it's like he didn't know that could have been a thing. And then like, he blew him up.

[Fran]

Right. Which is why maybe Gary wanted to just like, kill a lot of these people.

[Brianne Fran]

But it's like snag Terry.

[Noah]

He could never have let Xavier talk to his wife because he. She would immediately tell him, this guy's a freak.

[Fran]

Yeah. It was a bad plan all around. It was not well thought out, and it didn't work for Gary. Did not work at all.

[Noah]

This is. This is, by the way, on tv, though.

[Brianne Fran]

It.

[Fran]

It is so good. No, you know what I saw? I was blown away. You know, Steve from Full House, he's the voice of. He's the voice of the original Aladdin. If you saw him.

[Noah]

Full House guy.

[Fran]

But if you saw him, maybe you recognize him. He's a. He's a writer on Paradise. I had no idea. I said, okay, Steve from Full House, right in paradise go off. Which I thought was really cool. The Jane of it all, she really freaks me out.

[Noah]

She's like, my least favorite, like, storyline

[Brianne Fran]

because I just don't, like, I didn't

[Fran]

love this episode because of that. Because I just, like, don't necessarily get it that much.

[Noah]

Yeah.

[Fran]

And then the. With her birth and the thing with the. With the tech guy being like, you're. You're giving birth to a killer. It was like. I don't know. It was all. It was all a lot. And then she goes. When she goes out to meet Thomas Doherty and his whole squad and whatever is going to happen there, I don't know what Sinatra's got up her sleeve, but I don't like it. And I like that Xavier's daughter is getting Sinatra's daughter to be like, hey, your mom's a nutcase. Maybe you should look into this.

[Noah]

She's about to get killed if she keeps doing that.

[Fran]

But I. I just, like, I don't get James. I don't get Jane's end game at all. Like, whose side is she on?

[Noah]

What is she killing people for her approval? She just wants someone's approval. Like, I don't get it.

[Fran]

Yeah. I don't know. But it's a disaster.

[Noah]

Xavier's, like, gotta take this, like, whole army now to. To the dome. He's got all these people first. I don't know what they're gonna do with Gary. Like, kill Gary.

[Fran]

Yeah. Yeah. I'm not sure what's gonna happen to Gary. This episode was a B to me. It was good, but I. I am the least invested in Jane's storyline, and this episode was predominantly Jane stuff.

[Noah]

Yeah. Agreed.

[Brianne Fran]

Okay.

[Fran]

Now I think that's everything.

[Noah]

I watched the Pit. I'll give an A minus. Like. Like, even an episode of the Pit where it's not like, my favorite episode season is always like, that's like, the baseline for that show. Every episode is just so good. And. Yeah, I don't really know. I am very, like, into the whole Langdon. I think he's a great character, but I don't know if I, like, am on his side or not, because.

[Fran]

Yeah, that's fair.

[Noah]

I. I'm like, yeah, like, he shouldn't have a job in reality, but he is also kind of still like, a dick. But I don't know. But it's an A minus. I watched dtf. I guess I'll be behind now because that's that premiering tonight. But I. I like that show a lot, too. That's like a solid B plus. I think Jason Bateman is great in it. And also Linda Carlini and. Yeah, just. It's just one of those shows that you just want to know what happened.

[Fran]

Yeah, I gotta start watching that. And we love Linda Cardellini.

[Brianne Fran]

We gotta jump in. I know. We. I. You know, it's just a lot of traveling.

[Noah]

There's too many.

[Brianne Fran]

And there's a lot of shows that Matt and I want to watch together.

[Fran]

Same, same.

[Brianne Fran]

That's my problem too, like, holding them. You know what I mean? For when we're home.

[Fran]

Yep.

[Noah]

Paradise. I'll give it. I'll give it B plus. But because, honestly, just. Yeah, mainly because of the Jane stuff, which I just don't care that much about. But now I'm excited because I feel like now, hopefully we are headed back to the dome soon. So that gets a B plus love story. Like, I want to give it an F, but, like, I'll give it a D minus because it. Because it actually was, like, funny. Like, it was. You guys just seen Little Manhattan with Josh. What to say, Josh Hutcherson. There's a scene in that, like, which I don't know why. I just, like, for my whole life, like, always joke about that scene where he's, like, crying, but it's like, the funniest, like, cry, like, Like I've ever seen. Go. Go back and watch it. But it's like, he's like a little

[Brianne Fran]

kid, but it's like, you know, I'm not.

[Noah]

I'm not putting it on Josh Hutchinson. But this is what it looked like when we have a grown. Like, this is supposed to be JFK Jr. Like, pouting and like. Like moaning and crying. Like, I don't want you to leave everyone. I ruined.

[Brianne Fran]

Like, my favorite thing is every week, Noah hits a. This is supposed to be JFK Jr.

[Noah]

This is not, like, go watch an interview with JFK. Junior. And then tell me that he's crying like this in his apartment. Like, it seems so. For, like, the writing is maybe the worst part, but he's actually. It's not. Nothing can be worse than his acting. But it's just so bad. Like, I actually feel bad for. What's her name? Laura Pigeon.

[Brianne Fran]

Sarah Pigeon.

[Noah]

Sarah Pigeon. Because it's just like, how could she not laugh in that moment? Like, it was.

[Brianne Fran]

She's in. She's in the character. She's in the zone.

[Noah]

No, I know.

[Brianne Fran]

Making it work.

[Noah]

And I'm also, like, I'm sure that, like, I actually didn't know. Like, I mean, it makes sense. I don't know how friendly they were with Princess Diana, but, like, I get. They're obviously, like, probably knew each other. But it's like, that seemed like a crazy. Like, I know people, like, love Princess Diana, but that seemed like a crazy reaction. Like, it just seems so fun.

[Fran]

Well, it was. It. Yeah, it was really. It was. It was very.

[Brianne Fran]

And, like, it was very dramatic.

[Fran]

I understand the connection the show was trying to make, but it was. Yeah, but it was a little too forced in your. It was a little.

[Noah]

Goes to the dishwasher. And it's like, I could tell, like, what they were trying to do where it's like, he. He's trying to, like, avoid what's happening, but it just was so bad. Like, I just. I was laughing. Like, I think I watched it, like, after one of the concerts where I was kind of like. Like, I was feeling good, and I'm like, this is the funniest thing I've ever seen. Like, if it was a comedy, it would be an A plus.

[Fran]

Yeah, it was. It was. Yeah. Some of, like, the. And it's just, like, a little bit of a frustrating watch with their relationship because it's like, you guys are saying really mean stuff to each other, and you really don't seem to like each other and you're not in a good place. But then he's like, I'm gonna leave. And she's like, like, what? You're gonna leave? It's like, you seem to actually really not like him at all.

[Noah]

Yeah, honestly, I get it.

[Brianne Fran]

Where it's like, fight.

[Fran]

A lot of fighting.

[Noah]

Anyone, like, who's in the Kennedy family. And, like, I would be like, this. This is insane that, like, they can just make this. Like, I was actually thinking to myself, like, what if JFK Jr. Watched this? Like, what if they. Like, this is crazy that I. It is kind of crazy that they're allowed to Just do this. Like.

[Jenna Dewan]

Yeah, yeah.

[Noah]

Because it Clearly, I don't believe any of that episode ever happened. Like, yeah, this is just fan. Fanfiction.

[Fran]

That's. That was fan fiction for sure.

[Brianne Fran]

That one was particularly insane.

[Noah]

Yeah.

[Fran]

Yeah, that.

[Brianne Fran]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Fran]

Wow. I just saw Florida Lost. Damn. Did they.

[Noah]

I just. Yeah, they were up with two seconds left, and I was. And I turned. It was my turn, so I turned.

[Brianne Fran]

Oh, you see?

[Fran]

You turn your head. Well, something. Something must have happened in Iowa. Wanted the bus.

[Noah]

Well, I picked Iowa, so.

[Brianne Fran]

Hey, go, Trent.

[Noah]

Yeah. And then the last thing I watch is, wow. Last thing I watched was Rooster today. I watched episode two. That's a show that I'm just. I'm cutting it off at episode two. I'm done. I. I just have no interest in it.

[Brianne Fran]

That's big.

[Fran]

Okay. That's it.

[Noah]

Usually I. Usually I see things through, even if they're bad. This one, I. I mean, maybe I'll, like. I'll throw it on if I have nothing. But it's not even that it's, like, bad. It's just like. It just does nothing for me. Like, I'm not. No character interests me. Steve Carell is, like, playing, like, it's like, in that Ted Lasso shrinking world of, like, that kind of humor. And Steve Carell's playing a character I feel like I've seen him play a million times. And I don't know. Yeah. I have no interest in it at all. And it's not even, like, damn, a terrible show. I would say it's just like, I don't care.

[Brianne Fran]

You're just not in bed.

[Noah]

No. So I'll give that, like, a C minus. I don't actually know. I haven't seen anyone talk about it. I don't really even know, like, what the. If people like it or not. But.

[Brianne Fran]

Yeah. And you didn't sell me, so I can't. Can't say.

[Noah]

I mean, I don't know. It's like. Yeah, I was never a Ted last night anyway.

[Brianne Fran]

Yeah.

[Noah]

So, like, it's the same.

[Fran]

True. You don't really like those shows, which makes me think I would really like it.

[Noah]

So maybe I'll watch, like. And I like shrinking. But part. There are a lot of moments where I remember. Like, I remember. Oh, this is what the show is like. It's always going to be, like, feel good type stuff, which is fine.

[Brianne Fran]

Not your fave.

[Noah]

And. Yeah. And I was meaning to go. I really want to go see Project Hail Mary, and I just. There's not. There's no tickets I really want to see it.

[Fran]

Let me tell you something. I, I tried multiple nights. I was like, Joe, he was like, the basketball's on. I was like, oh. Because I want, I need, I don't have any when I'm gonna go see it.

[Noah]

But my thing is like maybe, but this is one of those movies where it's like you guys IMAX 70. So I'm like, if I'm seeing it, I'm seeing an imax.

[Fran]

I don't think, I don't think I'm, I'm thinking I'm just gonna have to go see it normally. I was looking at weeks out for the iMac 70. There's no. But it's seats at Lincoln Center.

[Brianne Fran]

Really? Damn.

[Fran]

I was looking, I was looking to try and go at like 11am on a random day. Like even that, like those were still sold out.

[Noah]

I might go like at 11pm tomorrow. Like I actually like if there are. The thing is, it's like I, I don't want to sit so far up. Those tickets are still kind of scattered.

[Fran]

But sometimes people need to see it.

[Noah]

Sometimes people like return their tickets right

[Brianne Fran]

before the people are saying that. It's unbelievable.

[Fran]

People do buy tickets. Like they just buy them up and then like last minute they, they don't go and like get the refund. But yeah, I mean we talked about this on same page Book Club for, for those listening. If you're not listening to Saint Page Book Club, you should be. And I read Project Hail Mary last month and five star book. It was so good. Loved it. Kelly sent me the link already because I was joking about how I'm going to need a Rocky stuffed animal. And a Rocky stuffed animal has been. I, I ordered it so fast. Like I, I, it pre ordered ordered. Robbie Fox gave it a, gave it five stars on letterbox. I replied to store. I was like, oh my God. He said it was the best movie he's seen since Dune 2. People want me to see this movie. I need to see it.

[Brianne Fran]

Truly unbelievable. I can't wait to see it too.

[Fran]

Oh God. And I, I know I'm gonna love it. So I'm really dying to go see it. I, I'm with, you know, I really want to see it in imax, but if I don't get an IMAX seat, I'm just gonna have to go see it in a normal theater.

[Brianne Fran]

Yeah, they're very fair.

[Fran]

Yep.

[Brianne Fran]

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[Fran]

All right, everyone, we are here with a very special guest. We have Jenna Duan in studio. We are so excited to have you here. We are such big fans.

[Brianne Fran]

Yes, we are. Yes. Huge fans. Forever now.

[Fran]

Yes.

[Jenna Dewan]

Okay. That makes you sound.

[Fran]

Yeah, no, like, for the longest time. We're so happy that you're here, and we're just so happy seeing everything that you've been up to. And I feel like, you know, you're active on social, but getting to see you back on TV and doing all these fun things is. Has been great. So thank you so much for joining us.

[Jenna Dewan]

Thank you for having me. I'm so happy to be here. I'm huge fans of you guys, so this is really cool. I was really honored to be asking you.

[Fran]

Just.

[Brianne Fran]

Jenna, you don't have to lie to us.

[Jenna Dewan]

I have listened.

[Brianne Fran]

We are honored. No, but really, we honestly have always hyped you up for years and years and years now. So we are so honored that you took the time today to be with us. You have an amazing outfit on right now.

[Jenna Dewan]

Thank you.

[Brianne Fran]

Free is very special spring.

[Jenna Dewan]

I know.

[Brianne Fran]

And I'm jealous of your pants.

[Jenna Dewan]

Listen, this was the fastest. Yes. I put these pants on. I was like, yes, I want to come back into my fairy.

[Fran]

Whatever.

[Jenna Dewan]

This is fairycore. I don't know what we're doing, but it is. It's a little nice. Summery, kind of. We're getting warmer. I love it.

[Fran]

Yeah, it's. I was just joking before that once we crack 60 degrees, this is like our fake spring, where we get, like, four or five nice days and it goes back to being cold before it actually becomes spring. And that's where we're at. Right now where everybody comes out and they're like, this is amazing.

[Brianne Fran]

It makes people act crazy, but like, in the best way. Everyone's excited.

[Fran]

Everyone wants an aperol spritz. Right.

[Brianne Fran]

You brought the good weather from California.

[Jenna Dewan]

Listen, you're welcome. I am so glad that we can celebrate the sunshine in New York. New York. Springtime in New York is kind of the greatest.

[Fran]

I think so too.

[Jenna Dewan]

There's nothing better.

[Fran]

It is. Unless you have a pollen allergy. Because then it can be a little tough.

[Jenna Dewan]

Oh, you know what? I do.

[Brianne Fran]

Yeah.

[Jenna Dewan]

You're telling me I'm going to be miserable.

[Fran]

Yeah. Well, we're so early. Like it's just starting. But you know how they want to. They scare you every season. So it's like the last two weeks all. All the like Instagram graphics have been like, NYC to have worse pollen season in blah blah, blah years. And you're like, oh, great.

[Brianne Fran]

You're just terrified.

[Fran]

You open up your windows, then you immediately close them because you're like, oh, here comes kill you the pollen.

[Jenna Dewan]

I mean, I feel like I can have my own whole other side quest of how to survive with allergies.

[Brianne Fran]

Mine are so bad.

[Jenna Dewan]

I don't know if you have a navage. No, I have terrible. Go and get that.

[Fran]

I do have one of those.

[Jenna Dewan]

Live by that.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Brianne Fran]

What is it?

[Fran]

The. The Navajo. You know, it's really nose.

[Jenna Dewan]

It's a really sexy thing that washes.

[Brianne Fran]

Glamorous.

[Jenna Dewan]

Yeah, it's a. Yeah.

[Fran]

We don't have to go into the full detail anyway. Exactly. Of what exactly it does.

[Brianne Fran]

Hey.

[Fran]

But it's.

[Brianne Fran]

If anybody's listening. Listening. That has allergies.

[Jenna Dewan]

I might have just.

[Fran]

It cleans you out.

[Brianne Fran]

Especially if you're in New York.

[Fran]

Yeah, exactly. I have a steam shower in my apartment. So like that's all sitting just really.

[Jenna Dewan]

Just that you got it all.

[Brianne Fran]

Oh, yeah.

[Fran]

Really living lavishly prepared.

[Brianne Fran]

Prepared.

[Jenna Dewan]

I feel like I have a sauna.

[Brianne Fran]

Yeah.

[Fran]

Yeah. I wish. But okay. We're so excited that you're back on this season of the Rookie.

[Jenna Dewan]

Thank you.

[Fran]

And you had a. A spot coming, you know, end of season three. But now you are on season regular season four.

[Jenna Dewan]

Yes.

[Fran]

How is it being a part of the show full time?

[Jenna Dewan]

Amazing. I honestly like the show is the dreamiest job that I've ever had. It is wonderful. The people are wonderful. The show is really fun to do. My character Bailey is always doing really adventurous, wild, badass things. So I'm. I'm truly never bored. Nathan Fillion, who plays, you know, obviously is the Lead character on Rookie and who plays my husband on the show is such a nice human. He's the greatest person to work for. Everyone's so nice. I really feel like I'm going into Disneyland every day is like that great of a job. So nice. I love it. It's. It's wonderful. We film in la. It's so great. And it's fun every single episode. We never know where we're gonna go with it. And we went to Prague this season, which was, you know, also a fun adventure. And it never ends.

[Brianne Fran]

Right. So you, you never know where you're gonna go with the script, but you know what you're showing up to on set. Yeah.

[Jenna Dewan]

You know, you find out you get the script about a week before you start filming that episode. So we as actors, unless we get a hint from the showrunner ahead of time, we really are. It's like, choose your own adventure. You get the script, see, oh, that's where we're going with this. And we don't get a lot of information and. But it's exciting. So you can kind of go, okay. You sort of start reading through the lines. You say, I think we're going this direction and maybe we're gonna head this way. So it's, it's exciting for us too.

[Brianne Fran]

Do you have a method of when you get your script, how you work through the lines, how you memorize it all?

[Jenna Dewan]

Not really. I mean, I like to be pretty spontaneous with it. So I think in the beginning of my acting career I was coming from dance and acting. I was so like worried about doing it wrong because I was just like, I was, I was legitimately thrown into acting. So I had to learn on the job. Now I read the script or I read, you know, right when they give it to us and then I kind of. On the day or the night before, I look over it, I have an idea. I know where we're going with my character in this, in the whole episode. I know what is happening in the scene. But we are so. We've been doing this for so long now that Nathan and I, a lot of times we show up and we've got it somewhat, but we just play and we're a little spontaneous and it just flows. And once you sort of know what you're saying in the scene and you listen to each other, it comes a lot easier. Whereas, you know, 25 year old me was probably like, okay, I gotta, I would repeat it over and over and over and then it just kind of feels a little stale. So. Yeah, I'm gonna keep freedom in there.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Brianne Fran]

That's amazing to have that creative freedom and makes it even that much more fun. When you say you were just thrown into acting, what do you mean by that?

[Jenna Dewan]

I mean that I was dancing on the Grammys with NSync. That's a long time. I was Justin Timberlake's partner in the dance, so I was pretty featured because it was their last. I think it was their last performance, as in sync, before Justin went solo and a manager was watching the Grammys and saw me and said, that girl should be an actress. This is. How weird is. She knew she was representing a friend of Justin's who from back in Tennessee days somehow got through. Someone got through. Someone got to me and brought me into her office. And she was very pushy, and she's an amazing manager. And she. She was like, you need to do this. I said, well, I don't. If I've never acted, I don't. Okay, but, like, what do I do? And she was like, wipe off all your makeup. Clearly, I've not listened. Like, a full face of makeup on.

[Fran]

Well, you're, you know, you're coming from the dance world, where that's, you know, gotta be.

[Jenna Dewan]

Hank, we love your glitter eyeliner, but not in an audition room. Take it all off. Go in there, hear some sides and hear some auditions and see what happens. And I didn't know any better. And I said, okay. And I ended, actually, my very first. I ended up booking the very first audition I went in on, which was this movie called Tamara, which for my horror fans, they. It's a very. It's like a lot of these cult classic. I love that movie. And then from there came Take the Lead and then Step Up. So it just happened. I just literally fell into it, and I didn't even know what a mark was. I didn't. I knew nothing. I learned on the job.

[Fran]

Yeah. And was the manager, like, I see you mixing the dance world into the acting world right away, because it feels like those. Obviously those first big ones. You were dancing in the movies.

[Jenna Dewan]

Yeah, no, that was really happenstance. So she saw me and thought, you should get into acting. I had no idea what I was like, okay, you know, went with it. But then it happened to be that two dance movies were casting. And then it gets even crazier because Take the Lead was my first movie, but I showed up to the premiere here in New York, and I was basically cut out of it. So I just. I had so much more in that movie, and it was because of a million different reasons and storylines and stuff. I just had this ending dance scene. So when Step up was casting, the casting director said, we don't want anyone that's been in a dance movie. But this manager at the time called and was like, no, she's been cut out.

[Brianne Fran]

Yeah.

[Jenna Dewan]

Yeah. So she's not.

[Brianne Fran]

I promise you, she's not in it.

[Fran]

I promise you, she's the.

[Jenna Dewan]

Not in a real big part in this movie. So they saw me, luckily, because she pushed for it and that. And then Step up happened. But those. That was totally random. I don't think she so much so that after the two dance movies came out and obviously Step up was a big hit, they went. Everyone was advising me opposite. Don't say you're a dancer. We want you to be a real actress now. You know, go in there and. And. And I tried that for a long time, and it just wasn't obviously authentic. And me. And it didn't work. But, no, it was fully not planned. It just, like, happened.

[Fran]

It's so crazy. And I feel like we hear people talk about that phenomenon all the time of filming a movie and then going to see it. And you're like, wait, yeah, I'm not. Which I guess maybe is different now. Cause maybe there's more warnings or updates or whatever. But that is. It's. I forget who we were talking to. We were talking to somebody who was like, I told all my friends, everybody, like, to go see this movie. And then I went and goes. And I'm like, I'm not in the movie.

[Jenna Dewan]

Oh, yeah. My family was there. We were all waiting. This is the moment. Sasha was my character. I was like, we're gonna have. This is gonna be so. And it was a huge movie premiere because it was Antonio Banderas. And then I'm watching him like, oh, wait, I thought it was in that scene. Wait. Oh, nope.

[Fran]

It's like, you're really sitting in the theater for the premiere, being like, I guess I'm not. Yeah. That's crazy. Yeah, it's crazy.

[Brianne Fran]

Best case scenario, though, for Step Up, I mean, it's so insane. You know, you do your first audition and you get it like, what is that feeling like?

[Jenna Dewan]

It was insane. I really did not. Obviously, I didn't expect it. I didn't even seem necessarily going in this direction, so. And then that role in particular, Tamara, I had to play two different versions of this character. So anyways, I had to go into this audition, and one side was this mousy, picked on nerdy girl who then Is killed. And because of witchcraft. Witchcraft. Stay with me.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Jenna Dewan]

Comes back hot and revengeful. Okay. Yep. You know, but in the audition, I didn't know what I was doing, but somehow I have no idea. I think they just saw that. Maybe I was just really excited to work. I have, you know, I don't. The dancer part of you, that's gung ho, I don't know. But then I went from there directly to an acting coach, and that's how I started learning how to act.

[Fran]

Well, it's incredible. And we love. I mean, we got to watch the dance in the movies, which was honestly the perfect combination. I mean, we were just talking about the fact that step up is 20 years old this year.

[Jenna Dewan]

I can. I just heard this too recently, and this really. I don't know what it does to me inside, but it's a wild feeling.

[Fran]

And for us too, because it's one of those movies, I think, for. For our age that was like a formative movie that we will look back like. And so, like I. I watch that movie on planes all the time. So excited.

[Jenna Dewan]

All the time.

[Fran]

All the time. I mean, oh, my God, I still cry every time.

[Brianne Fran]

Yeah.

[Fran]

Once. His face is spoiler at this point, 20 years later, it's like he's. If you haven't seen in 20 years. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Brianne Fran]

No, I mean, everyone's obsessed with it. My husband today was like, oh, who do you have coming in? I told him, he goes, step up. I'm like, yes. He's like, oh, my mom's gonna be so excited.

[Fran]

Everyone like, no, I feel like it

[Brianne Fran]

was a movie that, like, bonded a lot of people together too.

[Fran]

And it formed what an amazing, like, franchise of movies and stars and dancers.

[Jenna Dewan]

You had told us in Baltimore we're filming. I mean, it was a small movie. Yeah, it was a low, not low budget, but, you know, not a big budgeted movie. And we had no idea, like, no clue. I will say that was one of the wildest experiences to have that movie be so well received. And what's also crazy is nowadays I'll have young kids. I'm talking, you know, 10 year old, 12 year olds that are like, step up, my favorite movie. I was like, you weren't born.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Jenna Dewan]

How you.

[Fran]

It's because their moms probably love, like, they loved it.

[Jenna Dewan]

Somehow we find dancers and also social

[Brianne Fran]

media now, like, brings everything back around and people see all of these iconic movies, which I'm so happy about because, like, we need to appreciate how amazing that movie really is.

[Fran]

And the trends come back around with the dance stuff. You see the moves in the movie and then they go viral because everybody wants to do it on TikTok.

[Jenna Dewan]

I know that's true. I did see someone the other day doing the ending dance on TikTok and I was like I remember it. Yeah, we'll see if I can still do it. But I remember it and the lift and all of that. It's.

[Fran]

I'm sure it's muscle memory.

[Jenna Dewan]

There is. You know I can do a dance that I did when I was 15. I can. If you put the song on, I remember it.

[Fran]

It's weird.

[Jenna Dewan]

It's muscle memory. I can't remember where my phone or my keys are every day at least 20 times a day. But I could do a dance from when I was 15.

[Fran]

No, but those dances and you think of like step up too. The rain.

[Jenna Dewan]

So the rain dance just so good.

[Fran]

But the water, it's just, it's just the best. What did you like? Did you enjoy watching all the other movies that came out after? Yeah, I did.

[Jenna Dewan]

I loved it. I mean at the end of the day I am a dancer.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Jenna Dewan]

In my blood. That's like that's where I started. That's, that's. That's my first true love. So I love a dance movie like everybody else love as a dance movie. It's so fun and it was really cool. I thought it was interesting and a good choice that they went in different directions and the, the franchise kind of grew. Truly grew. Like it just felt a lot bigger than our movie. I loved watching it and I was always rooting them on.

[Fran]

Yeah, I was going to ask, was

[Brianne Fran]

there any talk about continuing your guys story in the movie rather than you know, kind of the spin offs that they did?

[Jenna Dewan]

No there. Well for the second movie they definitely wanted Chan. That was the thing. So he went and did the second. He had a part in the second one. They, they were like. They wanted me but it wasn't like there wasn't a great place for nor like it was. Yeah, we didn't really. It didn't really fit and so it just really made sense for him to go and do it. And then. No, they never, they never called us about the other ones. But we did do the Step Up High water TV show which was really cool. That was fun.

[Fran]

It just like really obviously exploded its own like franchise of dance and inspiring kids I think to dance to which was really cool and watching that all happen. But then you know you continue to really like fall into that acting more in the acting bubble. Movies and not necessarily the movie, the acting dance combo. But I love how you still incorporate all the dance online. I see you dressed as your character but you're fully doing the dances on TikTok and all those things. What are your co stars are like, oh, Jenna wants to do another dance.

[Jenna Dewan]

Oh God, yes. I mean God, love TikTok. It was funny. Mikiya on the show who, who's also on the Rookie, she's also a dancer. You know, she danced for Michael Jackson when I danced for Jan Jackson. So we always have this fun where we want to dance together. Every job in some sort of way finds a way to get me dancing. I think on the Rookie we did a throwback episode where I was in a prior, you know, I was a video dancer and we did a whole music video dance. But I, you know, I danced. We did a special, the step into the movie special and I got to dance, do the dance with Derek Hough. There. There's moments that are always bringing me back into dance. Lately though, there hasn't been. Which is sort of killing me. I need to figure out something.

[Fran]

Was there ever like a potential Dancing with the Stars situation for you?

[Jenna Dewan]

Honey, They. I was just asked this. I.

[Fran]

No. Well, like even as a pro, like as.

[Jenna Dewan]

I never say never because I did dance as like a guest performance years ago on that show. It was, it was when they were doing this Macy's stars of dance and they would bring different choreography dancers on. But that I'm talking, that was like right after Step up came out so long ago. I never say never. I've never ballroom danced in my entire life. So it would be hard for me. I know the inside of me that it would be difficult to say no to it because I've like love to dance so much. But I, I don't know because. But that shows evolve so much. Right. So it really started with people that have never danced.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Brianne Fran]

Yeah.

[Jenna Dewan]

Now it seems to be a love of dance.

[Fran]

Yeah, there's a love of dance. There's a lot of people that maybe dance when they were younger and lost it and use the show to come back and find it. But the, the, the fandom is crazy because it's like people argue what the show's core value is. Is it someone who's never danced before and you get to see them get better week by week or is it like that person already knew how to dance and then like see, I would

[Brianne Fran]

be pushing for you to be on the show so hard and there would be people that would be like, she's a dancer, but we'd be like, she's not a ballroom dancer.

[Jenna Dewan]

She's not a ballroom. I mean, the. The honest truth is it would be really difficult.

[Fran]

Don't believe that. Like, I just.

[Jenna Dewan]

I know.

[Fran]

I don't believe that.

[Jenna Dewan]

Like, it's hard to be.

[Fran]

Yeah. They're like, oh, yeah, sure. Like, it's like, I know people think if you can dance, you could just do anything, because I know there's really been so many people that have had, like, theater experience or, like jazz, but. Or Whitney, you know. Yeah, she was musical theater dancer. Yeah. And you're like, oh. And then they're like, but that doesn't mean I know how to do a foxtrot.

[Jenna Dewan]

I definitely do not. If you told me right now do a foxtrot, I would failed. You know, I have no idea.

[Fran]

I think it's almost harder to maybe unteach yourself the way that you would dance in, like, a more, you know, contemporary type of way to do the foxtrot. Anyway, I think you should do dancing.

[Brianne Fran]

This is us pushing you to be on Dancing with the Stars.

[Fran]

Anyway, I think it would be amazing or even, like, you should, like, guest judge. I feel like definitely.

[Jenna Dewan]

Yes.

[Fran]

I mean, because they pick some guest judges that don't know what they're talking about.

[Jenna Dewan]

I would 1,000%. Any. Like, I said, any chance that I'm able to be with my dancers, influence and dance in any way. Dance just in general. I. I can't.

[Fran]

I loved World of Dance.

[Jenna Dewan]

Thank you.

[Fran]

That was such a fun show.

[Jenna Dewan]

It's really great. That was a great experience.

[Fran]

That was a really cool show. And the. The judging panel was fantastic.

[Jenna Dewan]

Like, oh, God, we had so much fun. I mean, I had never hosted. That's another one that I jumped in.

[Fran]

That is a.

[Jenna Dewan]

Now I'm talking about this. That's a weird theme in my life.

[Fran]

Just jump right in, get thrown into

[Jenna Dewan]

things and have to figure it out. You know what?

[Fran]

It's worked. Keeps working. Counts.

[Jenna Dewan]

It keeps working. I'm like, what next? Yeah, I know. It was JLO and Neo and Derek Hough and then me hosting. It was fun. And honestly, every time we see each other, we're still like, oh, my God, we love each other.

[Fran]

Those are such amazing talent on those shows, too. I just. I think it's because I can't dance at all, that every time I see someone, I'm like, gosh, so many people have this talent.

[Jenna Dewan]

I know. I know it is.

[Fran]

And they don't. And they don't get noticed. Like, they're so good. But.

[Brianne Fran]

But especially your dancing. I mean, I feel like we still go back and watch videos of you dancing.

[Fran]

Your TikToks are addictive to us.

[Brianne Fran]

It really is, like intoxicating. Yeah. Oh, my God.

[Fran]

Every time, like it's.

[Brianne Fran]

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[Jenna Dewan]

It was, it was. Well, I was 18, so I was very, very young. 18 and 19, basically when I was on tour. And that was my vision board manifestation. I wanted to be a Janet dancer more than I wanted anything in my entire life. And I watched her velvet rope tour years prior and learned it all from my living room in high school. So I. I just wanted it so bad. So when I was asked to go on tour with her, I was like, I was like, bye. I was at USC and I called my dad and I was like, so I'm leaving school.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Brianne Fran]

Hell yeah.

[Fran]

Dreams are coming true. Never come back.

[Jenna Dewan]

Yeah, we're never coming back. We're going to Torrent. And that's was wild. It was crazy. It was insanely amazing. It was all things. It was like being thrust out into. I mean, we were on a World tour for two years. So we went everywhere. Everywhere. And the next youngest dancer was seven years older than me, six years older than me. Oh, my God. I was the baby. Janet was sneaking me into clubs. I mean, it was like, okay. We just had wild experiences.

[Brianne Fran]

How old were you?

[Jenna Dewan]

I was 18 when I started working with her for.

[Fran]

It was like, freshman year. Ish of college.

[Jenna Dewan]

It was. Was the end of freshman year. Yeah. Was like, into the second year. And I was like, and how wild

[Brianne Fran]

is that to just go all around the world? Like, did. How were you able to adjust to that schedule?

[Jenna Dewan]

I think young and dumb.

[Fran]

You know what I mean?

[Jenna Dewan]

Like, I think about it now, and I was like, oh, my God, when did I get my seven hours of sleep? We were on a tour bus. We went out. We would then be in a new city every two, three days. You'd park it for about one day, and then you sometimes get a day. We were. We went to, like, Paris and Japan and. And, you know, everywhere. Wow. Hawaii was our big HBO special. We were there for, like, three weeks.

[Brianne Fran]

And you had, like, a close relationship with Janet?

[Jenna Dewan]

Yes, still do. She's actually a friend of mine still.

[Brianne Fran]

That's awesome.

[Fran]

It's so cool. And I feel like it's, you know, like I said, it's so fun watching you continue to dance. And I wonder do your. And do all these. And, you know, you go to work, like. And your kids are like, okay, Mom's an a. She's an actress. She's going to set every day. But when you come home and you're doing your dancing, what are they like? She's a great dancer. Do they have any idea. And do they have the rhythm? The rhythm?

[Jenna Dewan]

Do they have the rhythm?

[Brianne Fran]

Yeah.

[Fran]

Do they have that natural talent?

[Jenna Dewan]

Evie, I think. Cause she's the oldest. She's starting well, she has known it, but I think it's more apparent as she's gotten older because people say things to her. And she knows. Her mom's a dancer, her dad's a dancer. Like, she knows these things, so she's more aware of it now. And she still thinks it's very cool. She's. And she does her own style, so she does Irish dancing, which I never. Irish dancing. Ballroom dancing.

[Brianne Fran]

Yeah.

[Jenna Dewan]

Yeah. And she started to sort of get into cheerleading and regular dance now. But she know. And she has. She has something for sure. She is crazy athletic. Yeah, she's really strong. She's. Her leaps and kick. I think she's like. She could explode. Yeah, she does working, but I did not know It. For the first part of her life, she had no interest in dance whatsoever. So it sort of came later on

[Fran]

because I feel like you see, and I know it's such a stare, like, but you see like the viral videos of the three year old where the music comes on and they're like. You're like, oh, my God, this kid is. Kid has no.

[Jenna Dewan]

I mean Callum, funny enough. My son, he took a. It's called pip hop, which is like a hip hop for little kids. And he did not look like he was getting any of it. I thought, well, okay, it's not gonna be him, right? Like, I did not see him.

[Brianne Fran]

And then we showed up to the

[Jenna Dewan]

recital and he freaking nailed it. Like, he was up there smiling and nailed it. And I don't know. I'm not a parent that pushes stuff. I kind of let them figure out who they are and I just watch it and support it. So I don't know, like, he could get into it.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Jenna Dewan]

My youngest just seems to be yelling at us all day. And. And she sings a lot and she's got a very loud voice, so I'm like, maybe she'll get Steve's singing voice. I have no idea.

[Fran]

But there's just a lot. A lot of great talent in there. That's. But I like what you're saying. You know, what. Whatever they. Whatever path they wanted, whatever they want to use and go on and, you know, it could be not in the arts at all.

[Jenna Dewan]

They come out and I mean, we all did. We're all. We are who we are.

[Fran]

Right.

[Jenna Dewan]

We can be dialed up and dialed down, but we are who we are.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Jenna Dewan]

So they are who they are. And, you know, we'll see. But I will say she, especially Evie, she's starting to put it together a little more. And she even the other day was like, can I watch Step Up? And I said, you did. When you were a kid and you told me it was boring. She goes, can I try again? Yeah.

[Fran]

I'd be like, maybe I should give it another shot.

[Jenna Dewan]

Yeah, exactly. She's like, maybe there's something to this movie.

[Fran]

No, that's so true. I feel like you have to be any. I think about all the time. Even with movies we watch, movies your parents love, you watch. And then you're like, God, I should probably watch it again, because I don't really think I really got it.

[Jenna Dewan]

I know. That's what's so wild to me is like, that that movie somehow is still standing. The test of Time is great.

[Fran]

I'm telling you. I at least like at least once a year.

[Brianne Fran]

And I. I feel like there's always movies that just like hit at certain points in your life. Yeah, right. Like, they resonate with you.

[Jenna Dewan]

And the soundtrack, too. That's one thing. A lot of people were saying that recently in the 20 year reflection that there's not a lot of movies that have a soundtrack that you want to download anymore in that way. And I went, that's kind of a good point. That was back when it was. Yeah. You know that Sean Paul did a song.

[Brianne Fran]

Even the last.

[Fran]

You're the last number remix. Like, it's so. It's so good.

[Brianne Fran]

So true.

[Fran]

It's so good.

[Jenna Dewan]

And then.

[Fran]

Yeah. The town. Everybody's singing. The scene of you guys all dancing at that bar.

[Jenna Dewan]

That's my favorite scene in the movie.

[Fran]

It is the best.

[Jenna Dewan]

That is my favorite scene in the movie.

[Fran]

It really is. It's just. Oh, gosh, it's so much fun. But yeah, we obviously, obviously loved every second of it. But we're so excited we get to keep watching you on the Rookie and it's such a fun show because I do think that it's like you get those great. I always mess up the word procedural.

[Jenna Dewan]

Proceed.

[Fran]

You know, procedural. Procedural drama.

[Brianne Fran]

I'm like, I don't even know what word you're saying right now.

[Fran]

I'm probably still messing up. It's just one. That I say it in my head. Yes. And it's clear, but it doesn't come out.

[Brianne Fran]

Comes out.

[Fran]

Yeah, it doesn't come out. Right. But on a network, you know, like abc, that is known for their fantastic dramas of all this.

[Jenna Dewan]

Gonna get. You don't know what you're gonna get, but you know what you're gonna get. And it's a nice comfortability.

[Fran]

Exactly.

[Jenna Dewan]

Also exciting because it is like.

[Fran]

Yep. Who's it gonna still get the twists and turns. It's like you're like comfort solid.

[Jenna Dewan]

It's a comfort show too. And. And yet we are always kind of trying to push boundaries and. And. And grow the storyline. But at the end of the day, you know who your characters are. You know, the circle set pieces. And there's just things that you know and love.

[Fran]

Exactly. Cause it's. And you still get a show that is making, you know, X amount of episodes a season, which is rare when that happens. So it's like, I feel like you get to build a community on set. It becomes a little bit more familiar.

[Jenna Dewan]

We're a family. We really are. We know each other. We are. We know each other's.

[Brianne Fran]

Families.

[Jenna Dewan]

Eric and I on the show had done a show prior to this, so we've known each other extra long. So you just have this like, like, camaraderie when you show up. And it's. And the fact that for some reason that I will always be grateful for. We're growing and people are finding it, I think, through tick tock. Funny enough, I think it's become like a social element.

[Fran]

I mean, you're young kids, too. Like, they're watching you dressed up as a firefighter, doing their dances. They're like, where's she doing?

[Jenna Dewan]

I don't show that to my son all the time. Like, you know, clearly I just want my kids to think I'm cool. I'm a firefighter. And he's like, why it's cool.

[Fran]

That doesn't make any sense, Mom. I'll explain.

[Brianne Fran]

No, but it works too, because whenever you could stream a show so easily as well. That's even better.

[Jenna Dewan]

Yeah. Thank you. Hulu makes it easy for everybody.

[Fran]

A good binge for anybody that wants to catch up. So, Jenna, thank you so much for joining us. This was so fun. We're so happy you were here. The rookies on Monday's ABC could stream the next day on Hulu.

[Brianne Fran]

We've been wanting you in here for so long. So seriously. Thank you so much, guys.

[Jenna Dewan]

This made my whole day. Thank you. Thank you.

[Brianne Fran]

That's really. You made our day. All right, that wraps up today's episode of Chicks in the Office. Thank you so much for watching and listening, Dallas. We will see you soon. Make sure you bring your signs and last minute tickets are available if you're feeling like it. And we cannot wait to go to the Hat of Montana premiere and talk about it on Wednesday's episode. So thank you guys so much. We love you so much. Big smooches, yeah.

[Noah]

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[Brianne Fran]

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[Noah]

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[Brianne Fran]

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[Noah]

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[Fran]

Who's the pod that they all want to meet up?

[Brianne Fran]

Who turn the heat up turn the beat up record the pod made a bag put their feet up the ones

[Noah]

that leave no crumbs when they clean up.

[Fran]

Who's the pod that they all want

[Noah]

to meet up,

[Brianne Fran]

Sam?