Rob Rausch Has The Traitors Cast Under His Spell, Wuthering Heights Review + Summer House Recap

Summary

Chicks in the Office – Rob Rausch Has The Traitors Cast Under His Spell, Wuthering Heights Review + Summer House Recap

Date: February 16, 2026
Hosts: Ria & Fran (Barstool Sports)
Episode Focus: Pop culture chat, Dancing with the Stars Live Tour stories, The Traitors (Peacock) deep-dive, Wuthering Heights (film) review, tell Me Lies (TV), Summer House recap, and more.

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Episode Overview

This episode is a packed, high-energy installment where Ria and Fran dish out their signature blend of pop culture commentary, weekend recaps, and in-depth TV/movie reviews. The highlights include Fran’s on-stage moment at the Dancing with the Stars Live Tour, a deep and hilarious discussion about Rob Rausch’s hypnotic run on The Traitors, passionate reactions to the new Wuthering Heights film, and Summer House drama. The tone is candid, fun, and full of quotable moments.

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1. Weekend Recaps and Valentine’s Day Adventures (00:33–13:28)

• Fran’s Valentine's Day:

  • Attended the Friends Experience ("It really felt like you were in there... they damn near replicated that shit." – Fran, 03:59).
  • Fun taking social media content; high praise for the memorabilia and set recreations (04:36–05:40).
  • Dinner/drinks at One Hotel Brooklyn and Lucali ("I accidentally changed my Instagram profile to a calzone… Could have been anything else." – Fran, 06:17).
  • Star sighting: Possibly Michael Gandolfini at Lucali and Edie Falco playing at the Roxy Bar.

• Ria’s Weekend Highlights:

  • Jazz at Roxy Bar, Italian dinner at Emilio’s Bellotto ("There's something about Emilio's breadcrumbs that is just a special blend." – Ria, 12:41).
  • Debating Olympic medal theory with other restaurant patrons.

• Valentine’s Day Discussion:

  • The joy (for those in love) and the struggles for singles ("I’m not a Valentine’s Day hater… I’m a Valentine’s Day lover. Cheese it up, do all the things." – Fran, 08:09).
  • Noting the holiday is a breakup trigger: Joe’s coffee shop eavesdropping on multiple breakup convos (09:12–10:17).

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2. Olympic & Figure Skating Drama (13:51–20:39)

• Men’s Figure Skating Catastrophe:

  • Discussing "Quad God" Ilia Malinin’s Olympic disaster ("He probably didn’t need the quad axel… but to finish in eighth? I was floored." – Ria, 14:35).
  • Speculation about ice issues and general Olympic stress.
  • Reflection on being an athlete under pressure ("You can only be so much of a good sport." – Fran, 16:25).

• Sports Gossip:

  • Cheating scandal in Olympic curling is touched upon ("Are we gonna have a brawl out there on the curling ice?" – Ria, 21:29).

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3. Fran Gets Pulled Onstage at Dancing with the Stars Live Tour (21:40–40:47)

• Show Vibes:

  • Ria and Fran’s awe of seeing dancing greatness live ("I just get so happy for people when they’re so good at what they do. It literally brings me to tears..." – Fran, 23:19).
  • Ezra gets standout praise for his energy; Emma, Val, Daniella and the whole crew lauded.

• The Big Moment (27:04–36:13):

  • Fran unexpectedly chosen for an onstage "rules of dance" bit at Radio City Music Hall.
  • Describes intense stage fright, confusion over dance trivia, and being gently roasted by Emma.
  • "I could barely choke out my name when Emma asked me what my name was." – Fran, 28:13.
  • Ultimately had to dance (“Who Let the Dogs Out?”), Alan lifted her ("Thank God Alan just twirled me. Just twirl me around!" – Fran, 32:09).
  • Whole scenario recapped with humility, humor, and supportive ribbing from Ria ("Anybody in that situation is not going up there nailing every single question." – Fran, 35:36).

• Venue Chatter:

  • Praise for Radio City’s grandeur but jokes about outdated, slow security and an attendant being stunned by a pregnant guest (38:11–39:10).

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4. Deep Dive: The Traitors – Rob Rausch’s Spellbinding Gameplay & Reactions (42:42–66:26)

Rob’s Dominance and Cast Dynamics

• Rob described as "flawless" and "mesmerizing"; few challenge him or suspect him (43:09–44:00).
• Dorinda’s hilarious recounting of being "murdered" by Rob ("I had butterflies being murdered by him." – Fran, 44:00).
• The other women on the show entranced; jokes about “pretty privilege.”

Strategy Highlights

• Rob’s ability to collect key info from other players and masterfully redirect suspicion.
• Johnny and Tara’s bombshell: finally revealing they’re best friends, which confuses everyone ("They were like, we’re best friends. Get us off the show." – Fran, 46:23).

Commentary on Trust and Lying

• Ria & Fran philosophize about playing the game with a real friend ("Even if I was Johnny and Tara…I wouldn’t 100% trust you or literally anybody." – Fran, 47:40).
• "We would never be able to lie about being as close as we are." – Ria, 48:56.

Predictions and Reunion Scoop

• Speculation about Rob’s chances to win; question if anyone will finally catch onto him ("If he doesn’t win, it’s his game to lose." – Ria, 51:28).
• Reunion tea: Lisa Rinna and Colton confrontation over "hostage" comments ("She was like, he wanted housewife, and I gave him housewife, which…is fair." – Fran, 58:50).

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5. "Weekly Watch Report" – TV & Movie Reviews (41:02–115:11)

The Traitors

• High Grade: Both hosts give it an A/A– ("He’s flying through it." – Ria, 64:12), but a guest says will only bump it to A if Rob loses ("It seems like a lock he’ll win at this point." – Guest, 65:46).

Tell Me Lies (70:41+)

• Show keeps expanding storylines; worry if it can wrap up everything ("They opened up too much with Oliver…" – Fran, 72:32).
• Hosts express exhaustion with how toxic all the characters are, especially Evan and Pippa ("Evan goes and gets [Bri’s mom] drunk before the art gallery thing…I almost threw my phone." – Ria, 73:15); everyone’s worst qualities are on display.

Love is Blind

• Standard "hot mess" season; Fran not spoiling anything, but notes the show remains reliably entertaining ("This is always entertaining; you always are like, ‘These people, no, this ain’t gonna work.’" – Fran, 83:40).

Love Story: JFK Jr. & Carolyn Bessette (Ryan Murphy)

• Strong visual casting, but performances mixed ("Naomi Watts as Jackie… I had to fast-forward at points; holy shit, this is bad." – Fran, 84:56).
• Split social media reaction: Some think it’s must-watch, others say it’s bad/corny (fierce debate across their feeds, 119:08–119:15).

The Night of the Seven Kingdoms

• High praise for this Game of Thrones spinoff miniseries ("Fantastic show. One of the better products from HBO in a while..." – Ria, 103:24).
• Edge-of-seat writing, classic GoT-style gore.
• Grades: A or even A+, especially for recent episodes (104:46–105:40).

Wuthering Heights (2026, Margot Robbie/Jacob Elordi)

• Ria enjoys the film as a "hot, romance-heavy, dramatic adaptation"—recognizes diehard book fans are furious ("Maybe her biggest mistake was calling it Wuthering Heights." – Ria, 111:54).
• Explicitly, the movie has a "smutty" spin, and Elordi is "drenched and hot the entire movie."
• Emotional reactions from the audience completely split: sobbing vs. hating it.
• Fran observes: "You're allowed to enjoy the movie." (113:16).

Summer House Recap (98:53–103:10)

• Amanda and Kyle’s marriage at the forefront, with Amanda’s weed use the latest complaint ("Kyle has such a narc grandpa view of smoking weed." – Ria, 100:59).
• Hosts clearly side with Amanda and think Kyle is deflecting ("I don’t have one piece of me that feels bad for Kyle ever." – Fran, 99:11).
• Frustration that the drama is overly focused on one couple, want more range from the season.

Love Island (All Stars)

• Ria: The Lucinda/Belle feud is now "too much"—mean girl vibes overshadowing other storylines ("Belle, you had us and you lost us…" – Ria, 90:58).
• Drama repetitive and detracting from enjoyment.

Other Mentions / Quick Grades

• The Beauty: Enjoyed, B+.
• Ponies: Good with a cliffhanger; B.
• Neighbors (HBO): Real-life neighbor feuds, quirky, B–.
• Song Sung Blue: Recent watch, B–, wholesome but sad.

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6. Memorable Quotes & Notable Moments

• "Rob continues to play what appears to be a flawless game, really, because nobody's challenging him." (44:00)
• "She was like, I had butterflies being murdered by him." (44:00)
• "Thank God Alan just twirled me. Alan, please just twirl me around." (32:09)
• "Kyle has such a narc grandpa view of like smoking weed." (100:59)
• "Jacob Elordi is drenched for a majority of this movie…my God." (112:08)
• "Anybody in that situation is not going up there and, by the way, you know, nailing every single question." (35:36)
• "Maybe her biggest mistake was calling it 'Wuthering Heights.'" (111:54)

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7. Timestamps for Key Segments

• 00:33 – Weekend/Valentine’s Recap
• 13:51 – Olympics/Figure Skating
• 21:40 – Dancing with the Stars Live Tour (Fran on Stage)
• 41:02 – Start of TV Weekly Watch Report
• 42:42 – The Traitors Deep Dive
• 70:41 – Tell Me Lies
• 83:15 – Love Is Blind
• 84:24 – Love Story: JFK Jr. & Carolyn Bessette (Ryan Murphy)
• 98:53 – Summer House Recap
• 103:24 – The Night of the Seven Kingdoms
• 106:04 – Wuthering Heights Film Review
• 115:01 – Additional Reviews / Final Thoughts

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8. Overall Episode Tone & Takeaway

This episode is immersive, conversational, and packed with both pop culture critique and personal anecdotes. Ria and Fran keep the energy light and honest, balancing fangirl moments (Dancing with the Stars, Rob Rausch) with sharper, critical takes on relationship drama and TV trends. Whether you’re watching for recaps, spoilers, or the hosts’ laughter, it’s a can’t-miss for pop culture lovers.

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Transcript

[Ria]

Hey, Chicks in the Office listeners. You can find every episode on Apple podcasts, Spotify or YouTube Prime. Members can listen ad free on Amazon Music. What's up, everyone? It's Chicks in the Office with Ria.

[Fran]

And Fran giving you that Friday energy on a Monday. Happy Monday, everybody. We have a super exciting episode that we're gonna get into. Talk all about our weekends and Fran's big moment on stage. But first, Chicks in the Office is presented by Microsoft Copilot. Like I said, before we get into everything, we need to discuss our weekends TV shows. We need to talk about the thing that is keeping everyone's lives together and organized right now, which is Microsoft 365 Copilot.

[Ria]

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[Fran]

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[Ria]

Yes. But it was lovely to be home. Valentine's Day.

[Fran]

Yes.

[Ria]

Planned activities. Just like enjoying the day. Saturday. Saturday hit like what, 40 degrees? It was lovely. We went for a long walk. Like it was balmy out there.

[Fran]

It was 50 at one point. Sun was shining.

[Ria]

Yeah, sun was shining. It. It was. It was. It was nice, but no, it was. It was a very, very nice weekend.

[Fran]

Yeah. I had such a fantastic weekend. Valentine's Day was honestly the best Valentine's Day we've ever had. It was so much fun.

[Ria]

Experience.

[Fran]

All. All thanks to the friends experience, let me tell you. Epic. No, it really was. It was such a great morning and then we. We went to the friends experience in the middle of the day and exceeded expectations. Let me tell you, it's.

[Ria]

It looks cool.

[Fran]

They got the real dealio sets up in there. Like it is not. I had low expectations going to the Friends experience, but it kind of blew me away.

[Ria]

I was like, you felt you were in the apartment?

[Fran]

Yeah. I was like, wait a second. We really are in Monica's apartment.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Fran]

I will say though, I felt like a fraud because the other people in there oh. Oh my God. They knew hardcore, line for line, quote by quote, like they knew fucking everything. Okay. And I was like, wait a second.

[Ria]

That's the kind of people that are going to the Friends Experience on Valentine's Day.

[Fran]

Yes. Okay. It was fun. Don't make fun about going to the Friends Experience on Valentine's Day.

[Ria]

I'm not making fun. It's so cute and fun. It's obviously a place where if you're going to go on Valentine's Day, which you and Matt do, love the show, that other people that are going to be there really love the show. They really do.

[Fran]

And they were frickin dedicated fans though. Like, I felt like kind of a fraud, like I said. But then we get there and they're like, you know, take your time to everybody. Like, you could take TikToks if you want. I didn't know this was going to be like a. You can make videos.

[Ria]

Well, where this was like, hey, capture all your social content to everybody.

[Fran]

They were like, capture everything you want. Take your time. You can take as many videos. I was, oh my God, Matt, this is our time.

[Guest]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Fran]

So I'm now fumbling on my phone. I'm like, I gotta find some friend sounds. All of a sudden I see the couch pivot.

[Guest]

Perfect.

[Fran]

Absolutely perfect. Crushed it. And then we get to Monica's apartment. I'm like, well, we need to do one in here. I'm fumbling through my phone, I got no service. I'm trying to find the sounds. Boom. Nailed it on the spot. And it was a great time. I mean, it was cracking us up. Like, let me tell ya, it really felt like you were in there. Like, I can't, I can't even deny it. They, they had a great setup. So I highly recommend going, yeah, that's it. If you're a fan of Friends. Or if you just like to get the feel of like a television set, they damn near replicated that shit. Okay, so we had a great time. And then we.

[Guest]

I forgot you were doing that. And then I saw that, that couch video pop up my, like Instagram. And I, I was like, are they just moving a couch in, like to their apartment and reenacting this?

[Fran]

No, they have a setup at the Friends Experience. And really, you know, we had to get the photo package, but then they let you take it on your phone and everything. So it was like, we got the photo package, but you don't even need the photo package because you could take as many pictures as you want your phone. Like, they're so nice and welcoming there. You could do whatever you want.

[Ria]

You know, some people maybe want like the. I'm sure the photo package were high quality photos. We did. And maybe some branding on there.

[Fran]

Yeah, we did buy the central perk, high quality branding photo to have, of course, with the mugs and everything. And. Yeah, it was honestly so much fun. It was hilarious in there. Like, they have memorabilia, they have like their fake licenses and everything. They have outfits that they wore. It's like, you know, a whole museum. It's a whole experience. That's why they call it the friends experience.

[Ria]

It's a whole experience.

[Fran]

Listen, 10 out of 10 worth it and highly recommend going.

[Ria]

That's so much fun.

[Fran]

Yeah. And then we went to the one hotel in Brooklyn for drinks. That's where we stayed for our wedding. And then we went to Lucali, which we have not been since our rehearsal dinner, which is just the best. I mean, the pizza, the. It's all just. It's to die for. And then.

[Ria]

Yeah, you're the new face of the cow zones.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Ria]

I accidentally so.

[Fran]

Thank God the last picture in my camera roll was a calzone.

[Ria]

Thank God it was a calzone, not something else.

[Fran]

Could have been anything else.

[Ria]

Anything.

[Fran]

And I went to go change my profile picture on Instagram and I like my finger accidentally click, done. And it was just on the last photo on my camera roll and it just changed to a calzone. And I was like, you know what? This could be me.

[Ria]

I could just be the Lucali, the.

[Fran]

Calzone, the calzone on my Instagram. But then I was like, oh, I think too many people will unfollow me if I keep it as a calzone. Like, why am I following this calzone?

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Fran]

So, but Lucali is just so good. And then I don't even know if I should be saying this, but we think we saw Michael Gandolfini, which is Tony Soprano's son, in Lucali. You probably did. I think it was him.

[Ria]

He probably did.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Ria]

I feel like he has a big presence.

[Fran]

And I was just like, oh, my God, it's Tony Soprano. Spawn.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Fran]

Sitting right there.

[Ria]

Which is so funny. I saw Edie Falco on Friday night.

[Fran]

Yeah, it just felt like a Sopranos weekend.

[Ria]

It really did.

[Fran]

And it just was like stereotypical, like, oh, Tony Soprano's son is in Lou Cali. Right at this Italian police of Brooklyn.

[Ria]

Like, 100%, 100%. It was just like, just having a good old classic New York weekend.

[Fran]

Yeah, it was where they were.

[Ria]

Where they were out. Everybody was out. And about.

[Fran]

Yeah. And I was dying because Matt got that sweatshirt that fits two people. Like, you know, the two person sweatshirt.

[Ria]

And I'm saying, yes, I've actually never seen that before.

[Fran]

No, I've seen it on TikTok before, and it always makes me crack up. And then Saturday morning, he pulls it out and I literally, I. The amount of videos I took of us dancing in this damn sweater, I have not posted any of them. Like, I don't know if these will ever see the light of day, but it was cracking me up. I don't know why. There's just something so funny about it.

[Ria]

Like, just visually looks.

[Fran]

You put it on and you're like, I don't know why this is hilarious, but it is. So that was cracking up all day. And, you know, some. Some sweet treats and all. I love Valentine's Day. You know what I mean? Like, I'm not a Valentine's Day hater. I'm a Valentine's Day lover. Like, cheese it up. Do all the things, the flowers, the sweet trees.

[Ria]

Well, you can say that because you're in love. You know, there's probably a lot of people out there that.

[Fran]

Yeah, I actually are, like, that's.

[Ria]

And you know, in love. So it doesn't quite hit as hard.

[Fran]

No, I could understand. Like, it could be, you know.

[Ria]

You know, like, for. No, it's just any other Saturday.

[Fran]

Right. But you're not mad at the people enjoying.

[Guest]

No, I'm not mad. It wasn't any other Saturday because, like, me and my friends went out and it's different. Like, because it's Valentine's Day. Yeah.

[Fran]

Right.

[Guest]

But I have no problem with.

[Fran]

Yeah, you're not mad at people.

[Guest]

Like, it doesn't make me mad that people are in love.

[Fran]

No, no. And that's a beautiful thing.

[Ria]

That's nice. Cause it does for some. You know, it does for some people.

[Guest]

I think that, like, every holiday, like, people get sad at Christmas. Like.

[Ria]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Fran]

The holidays are tough in general, you know, depending on the situation.

[Ria]

And it really is like. And I know it's Valentine's Day and it's supposed to be like, a day of love, but I do think that. And we were. We were. We've been talking about this, and Joe had a moment where he went to a coffee shop briefly Saturday morning. And he was sitting there and he came back. He told me he was like, Man 2. I was. He was eavesdropping, and he was like, there's two sets of girls sitting on either side of him and both were talking about their breakups, like recent, Recent breakups. And I was like, you know, these holidays, you would think it wouldn't, you wouldn't think that things like that would happen around Valentine's Day. But it is like any other holiday, any big moment, you're like, you're thinking about your life and you're. And you're like, what am I gonna do? And this girl was, was talking to her friend and was just like, one. I. I'm not. You know, there was other details of other things, but like, she was just like, I don't really like him. Broke up with him last night.

[Fran]

Came.

[Ria]

To talk to her friend on Valentine's morning to be like, yeah, couldn't do it. It's like, yeah. I actually think if you looked it probably. That probably happens a lot around Valentine's Day.

[Fran]

Yeah. People don't want to fake it through Valentine's Day.

[Guest]

Yeah. Because then it's like, why would. Looking back, it's like, why did we do that?

[Ria]

Yeah. Right.

[Fran]

Because then you're like, then you break up right after Valentine's Day and you're like, why did you, why did you go out with me on that? No, I know, I know.

[Ria]

Same morning as two girls being like, yeah, broke up on my boyfriend.

[Guest]

But like, he, he probably already got gifts and, and like had a reservation at that point, you know, you could, probably could have done like a week earlier.

[Ria]

Right, right, right. Well, yeah, but sometimes it's. You gotta. It doesn't really hit you till. Till the day.

[Fran]

Right.

[Ria]

And you're like, till the day comes. But no, we went out Friday night, which was really nice. And what did we do? We went to the Roxy bar and listened to some jazz.

[Fran]

Lovely.

[Ria]

A quick Google search made me realize, I guess Edie Falco's current boyfriend is a musician. He was playing in the lobby bar.

[Fran]

That's beautiful.

[Ria]

She was rocking out, so it was lovely. And then we went to Amelia's Bellotto. Delicious. Always enjoyed a nice big Italian meal. Great order. I nailed the order. You know, when you just. Not a scrap of food left. It's delicious. And what else did we do? And that was. Yeah, that was kind of it. Saturday, like, it was my ideal day. We were being lazy. Went for like a long walk in the afternoon. Picked up some cookies on the way home.

[Fran]

Delicious.

[Ria]

Some sweet treats.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Ria]

So it was, it was very nice. I realized that, you know, you know what I think it is about Emilio's. And by the way, Joe and I had maybe a 30 minute conversation at dinner about the whole Olympic Metal. My Olympic medal theory, which he does not agree with. And I think that's, like, coming from an athlete who's, like, on a team sport, who's like, no, I want to win silver. Like, silver's better than bronze. I'm like, no, I get what you're saying.

[Fran]

No, of course.

[Ria]

And we got to the point we started asking strangers, like, we were asking the other tables around us being like, what do you guys think about this? And really, we were just really getting crowdsourcing, just really getting everybody's opinion. But I think I decided that there's something about Emilio's breadcrumbs that it's just a special blend.

[Fran]

I'm sure.

[Ria]

I don't know. And obviously it is.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Ria]

But, like, the baked clams.

[Fran]

And then.

[Ria]

We got chicken parm, which is just a classic, but they just get the perfect crisp on both of those items. And I just kept eating it, being like, God, there's something about this breadcrumb blend that just is fantastic.

[Fran]

They got the pecorino Romano in there.

[Guest]

Yeah.

[Fran]

They got a couple spices, and it's.

[Ria]

Just like, they broil it just to the right level where, like, this broiling is really tricky. Yeah. It gets the perfect crisp. Not overdone, where the breadcrumbs get crunchy on a bake clam. Because I don't let you know when it gets too crunchy, and then you're like. You're biting down on it. Just the right crisp.

[Fran]

Just crispy enough.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Fran]

Yeah. That's beautiful.

[Ria]

Really. So we just enjoy some good Italian food.

[Guest]

Yeah. Speak easy after or.

[Ria]

No, no. We were in there before. Before we sat down. We ate late. Like, we sat down late. So by the time. That time, and I had, at that point, you know, drinks at the Roxy, drinks before drinks at dinner, I was like, I gotta.

[Fran]

Gotta go home. You're like, oh, my God, I gotta hit the couch.

[Ria]

I gotta go home. But no, other than that, everything. Everything was so fun. I did mention Olympics, guys. What a disaster for quad. God.

[Fran]

Oh, my God.

[Ria]

I couldn't believe my eyes.

[Fran]

Kind of a disaster for everybody.

[Ria]

It was. Which made me even more, like, I was like. As it was going on, I'm like, oh, no. These poor guys. Like, there's a lot of people messing up.

[Fran]

You think there was something up with the ice?

[Ria]

I don't know.

[Fran]

I don't know.

[Guest]

Saying that side of the ice I saw, because he only fell on that. That side of it.

[Fran]

I mean, there had to have been something up everybody.

[Ria]

Something. I think sometimes, you know, Bright Lights. Big moments.

[Fran]

Well, he had gotten a lot of shine lately and there's a lot of pressure. And then the big pressure comes and it's like fucking.

[Ria]

I know. And I couldn't believe it. Cause I also. And I commended him. I was like, you know what? He went for the quad axel. He probably didn't need to because of how the other skates went for the other skaters, where it was like, if he kind of did his bare minimum, he probably would have won. But to completely fall off the podium and to like finish in eighth, I was floored. I couldn't believe.

[Fran]

Stunned.

[Ria]

I was stunned. I felt so bad for him. And despite having maybe like a little bit of a sassy moment right after, which I don't blame him for. He was like, if I was in Beijing, I would. This like wouldn't have happened. Cause fair first Olympics, you are feeling like he would have gotten his sea legs a little bit if he had been to the Olympics before, which. Yeah, I mean, of course if you had been there, if it wasn't your first time would have been better.

[Guest]

Right.

[Ria]

Makes sense. But then I thought he handled himself really well. Like being interviewed afterwards and he just talked about. I think it seemed like every. Just negative thought came coursing through his mind at the start of the program. I felt so bad. That's just awful. Couldn't fight the. Couldn't fight the demons. Even listening to his own voice telling him, just telling him to like fight through it.

[Fran]

Yeah. I mean, listen, I can't blame somebody for being fucking pissed after they do something like that. After they live it. Like I would have a bad attitude if I got out there and I fucked up like that. Yeah, I'd be like, like stomping off the ice.

[Ria]

It's not even like bad attitude to stay on the podium.

[Guest]

I probably quit halfway, like after he fell the second time.

[Fran]

I'm not continuing stomping my feet on the ice after that. Like I, you know, you can't blame no somebody for being disappointed about what happened.

[Ria]

Like, yeah, you can only.

[Fran]

You can only be so much of a good sport.

[Ria]

Yeah, I, I agree.

[Fran]

And it's not a team thing, right?

[Ria]

Like, so like if it's just you.

[Fran]

And you're mad at yourself, that's like completely fine. Like you're just taking it out on yourself, which really sucks. Like that is just. He had all of it, you know, and they just went.

[Ria]

Yeah. And it's, it's tricky cuz like obviously you want to do so well in the individual, but the team they already competed in and. And won. So it was like. There's just. I don't know. I don't know if that makes for an added pressure to. To individual or maybe if it was switched. And individual.

[Guest]

He won gold in the team.

[Ria]

The US Won the team gold.

[Guest]

Oh, so he's coming out with, you know, some.

[Ria]

I'm making that up. Right.

[Guest]

The way that he was reacting, I feel like.

[Ria]

No, do a quick US Figure skating team event medal. They won gold. He crushed it. He was great. That's the problem. Like, in his. In his.

[Fran]

You're making me second guess now. I am, but I don't know why you're second guess.

[Ria]

Why am I second guessing it? I think I'm like. I watched the whole thing.

[Fran]

All of these events, they happen so fast, you know?

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Guest]

Yeah. United States won the gold in the figure.

[Fran]

Yeah. Yeah. Okay.

[Ria]

I don't know why I was taking myself, but. And he. And he competed.

[Guest]

He wasn't the top men's performance. So some guy named Malini.

[Ria]

Yes, yes, yes. No, that's him. That's him.

[Guest]

Oh, that's him.

[Ria]

He didn't do well. That's him. His name's Ilia.

[Guest]

I thought his name was Ilia. Quad.

[Fran]

No, no, no, no, no.

[Ria]

That is quite.

[Fran]

His last name is Quad. God.

[Ria]

That is quite literally his name. But, like, the pressure there is huge. Cause he was at the end and he had some ground to make up for to win the team, and he skated perfectly. So it's crazy. The individual clearly just a whole different level of pressure, but. Oh, my God. I couldn't believe it. I couldn't believe it.

[Fran]

I know. That was really shocking.

[Ria]

It really was.

[Fran]

That's.

[Ria]

And I think watching, like, figure skating is just an incredibly difficult sport. Cause one, if you mess up on the first.

[Fran]

Your.

[Ria]

Your first jump, like, you gotta do the whole thing.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Ria]

And then there's their faces at the end is what gets me the most when they have to, like, still, like, lift their arms up and everyone cheers and they, you know, thank you for the ice time and the whole moment. And they're just, like, distraught.

[Fran]

Yeah. You're like, this is a pity cheer. Everyone's cheering for me because they know I fucked up.

[Ria]

Yeah, they're distraught. And he looked distraught. Like, it was just. It was hard to. Really hard to watch. So. Ugh. Thank you, Pepsi, for sponsoring this ad. I think there's so many things that you discover as you get older. Some things you said, ugh, I'm never gonna try that. I don't Wanna try that? But when you finally do, you think, oh, my gosh, I've been missing out on this the whole time. You really can feel that when you try to the Pepsi Zero Sugar and let your taste decide and forget all the noise, but really taste it and realize you like the Pepsi Zero Sugar better. It's the best tasting Zero Sugar Cola. We all saw their big ad, and we see the results. The phenomenon behind the blind taste test, where you're tasting the Pepsi Zero Sugar and the Coca Cola Zero Sugar and you don't know which one is which. And like us, we tried it in the studio and that Pepsi Zero Sugar was so delicious, it really shows that the Pepsi paradox does exist. The idea that when labels and bias disappear, cola drinkers prefer the taste of pepsi. And the 2025 revival of the Pepsi Challenge, 66% of participants agreed. Pepsi Zero Sugar tastes better than Coke Zero Sugar. Pepsi Zero Sugar won 100% of markets where Pepsi conducted the Pepsi Challenge. Even in Coke's hometown of Atlanta, Pepsi wins on taste. Sometimes you have to flip your world upside down to discover what's been right there the whole time. And you deserve taste. You deserve Pepsi Zero Sugar. Lay your taste aside and go try today.

[Fran]

Listen, honey, all this figure skating talk is cute, but we need to talk about yesterday.

[Ria]

I know, I know, I know, I know. But I wanted to talk about the Olympic stuff first because I feel like there was a lot of. A lot of big stuff.

[Fran]

Listen, we can talk about the Olympics. We can talk about the Olympics all we want.

[Ria]

People want to hear. I think they're investigating the judge, the French judge.

[Fran]

Are they, you know, as they should. I'm not against them investigating the French judge. It should be investigated, but I won't take away that. I thought that the French were good.

[Ria]

Yeah, yeah.

[Guest]

Well, I was gonna say that curling was big news, too. The cheating.

[Ria]

Oh, there was cheating? Yeah, yeah.

[Fran]

Oh, I did see that. Yeah.

[Ria]

Scandal in curling.

[Fran]

Listen, the Olympics, it brings all the scandal.

[Ria]

It really does. And you watch that slow mo and you're like, his fingers on it.

[Guest]

And then seeing, like, a Canadian guy be like, shut the up.

[Ria]

Yeah. I'm like, are we gonna have a brawl? I love it on the curling court.

[Fran]

Oh, my God. What's it called?

[Ria]

The core? I mean, it's ice.

[Guest]

Curling.

[Ria]

The curling ice. The ice right on. Right out there on the ice.

[Fran]

Right out there on the curling ice.

[Ria]

Oh, man. But, yeah, no, Sunday we went to Dancing with the Stars.

[Fran]

Honey, let's get to it. Cut to the chase here.

[Ria]

Dancing with the Stars Live Tour, which we were really excited for. Cause neither of us have seen the show. Super excited, and we always want to go. And it's always the New York, New Jersey stop. Well, what's really nice is just the show's become so popular, which has done great things for the tour, which I love, because years prior, when they've done it, it hasn't been, like, the mo. Like the closest place to get to from Manhattan. They've done stops in New Jersey. They've done stops, I think maybe like, in the Westchester area. And this year, two shows, Radio City, the Bright Lights, which is just incredible. I'm so happy for them. Like, you know, doing Radio City is. Is so cool. And it's always kind of around the holiday weekend, and sometimes we're not here and it hasn't worked out. But this one, we're like, oh, we're here. We're doing it. So we. We went to the. To the matinee show. We went to the afternoon show because they did two shows on Sunday. And we were, you know, so excited, having a blast. Got these two parts. Got. First part, a little intermission. Second part, we're just sitting in our seats enjoying the show. We're dancing on our seats. We're dancing. We're incredible. Wow. The music.

[Fran]

The music was so good.

[Ria]

Great songs that they were. That they were dancing to. It opened up. Rhea shed a tear.

[Fran]

Listen, I don't know what it is. I think it's like, I just get so happy for people when they're just so good at what they do.

[Guest]

So fucking good.

[Fran]

That, like.

[Ria]

And you also love love. And when it opened up with Jenna and Val and Danielle and Pasha, you know, they're married. And it's like, I'm a sucker for love.

[Fran]

I'm a sucker for cheesiness, and I'm a sucker for people achieving their dreams. And I can't help it. Like, literally bringing me to tears, all of a sud. Watching Dancing with the Stars live, I'm like, why the fuck am I cr. And I'm trying not to make it, like. And both you and my friend Fiona look at me, and they're like, you're crying. I'm like, look at them.

[Ria]

They're so good.

[Fran]

They're just so good. I'm just so happy for them up.

[Ria]

There, seeing it in real life, too. And we've been. It's now, like, we're so lucky that we've gotten to see them. The show tapings as well. It's just a whole nother ball game. Seeing them do that shit in real life, like, watching it on tv is always amazing, but in person, it just hits even harder.

[Fran]

Watching their bodies move. I'm just like, oh, I want to possess that talent.

[Ria]

They're just all so fantastic, I could say. And every single one of them, you know, different star quality in each of them and different amazing things to say about each of them.

[Fran]

They each bring something to the show. A standout for me is Ezra. I think Ezra brings such a fun vibe.

[Ria]

Totally.

[Fran]

And, like, light to the show. His facial expressions are so good. He's so funny.

[Ria]

I said he could be on Broadway.

[Fran]

He could. He's just so talented. He has such a stage presence live on stage. I was really mesmerized by him. I thought he was, like, a huge standout for me during that whole show.

[Ria]

Absolutely. And I think that, like, it is so fun to see them switch up all the pairings. Cause you do get to watch them dance in their couples. So, like, you see. And they crush that because, you know, my God, they have chemistry.

[Fran]

Of course. Of course.

[Ria]

But even when they switch it up. And I just think they like seeing different pairings brings out a different side of the dancer. Oh, Val and Emma had this number that was breathtaking. Breathtaking.

[Fran]

I genuinely had chills all over watching Emma and Val together. I was like, wow, they are quite the pair when they dance together, like, it's just incredible. And then Daniella and Britt and Jenna, like, the way that they can move and bring so much fire to their dance, like, oh, God, it's just incredible.

[Ria]

Haley's so great, too. She's been. She's touring with them. She hasn't been an official pro, but I feel that is coming for her. Yeah, I feel that is coming for her for sure.

[Fran]

Very integrated and.

[Ria]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Fran]

I feel like she's. She's awesome. She's so good.

[Ria]

Brandon, Al. I mean, they're just all fantastic. So we're. We're sitting there, we're rocking our. Enjoying the show. There was also Bad Bunny medley that was fantastic. So we got to mention that we were like.

[Fran]

Yeah, we were just shaking it.

[Ria]

I know. There was multiple moments I wanted to jump out of my own seat and start dancing, but I was like, you can't be the one.

[Fran]

You can't do that. You just be the ones. I actually saw people online, mad at people standing up, which I get.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Guest]

Really? So everyone's sitting.

[Fran]

Yeah. I mean, because you can't see anything if you stand up, like, you know.

[Ria]

Yeah, yeah. You kind of need to be sitting, I think.

[Fran]

Yeah. Especially with the dance performance on stage. Like, right.

[Ria]

With dance, you're trying to see everybody's movements and the. You're trying to see the whole stage. But they. There's a moment in the show where they bring somebody up and there's. You know, they've done different versions of this through the years, and I don't know why. It didn't even cross our minds to text each other. Like, it didn't even. It didn't even pop into my head to think, like, what if. What if they pick us to go on stage?

[Fran]

I truly thought they stood. I don't know how they do this. I don't know. They come into the crowd, whatever, but I've seen them do it. I thought that they just, like, raise your hand if you want to come on stage, and then they take someone from the crowd and they come on stage. They come walking down the aisle, and they stop right around.

[Ria]

Maybe they do it differently.

[Fran]

No, they might, but I don't know. This seemed like they knew. They knew the location.

[Ria]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Fran]

They come right around our area, right at the row. They move up a little bit. I'm like, oh. They're moving past, and then they come back and they point right at Fran, and they're like, no, up. You're coming with us. I'm just kidding.

[Ria]

And they're in, like. It's a whole. It's a whole.

[Fran]

They're acting like detectives.

[Ria]

It's like a whole bit that Dancing.

[Fran]

With the Stars tea, and it's so cute.

[Ria]

But I'm just like. And the. But I was, like, intimidated by the way they were dressed with the glasses.

[Fran]

Yes.

[Ria]

And the. And the. And the trench coats. I was like, oh, my God. I'm really not, like. I'm really nervous about this.

[Fran]

I'm like, take her. Take her away.

[Ria]

And like, Alan put his hand down. I went, oh, my God. I've actually never been more nervous in my entire life. Did not know this was happening. I could barely choke out my name. When Emma asked me what my name was, I was like, I don't know. I almost was like. Cause then also when you're someone that kind of goes by different names, the same name, but, like, Fran, Francesca. I was like, what do I say? I went with Francesca. Felt formal, but I was like, I'm on stage at Radio City. I gotta go.

[Fran]

Francesca. Yeah, Right.

[Ria]

And it's a whole bit. It lasted, like five minutes. I couldn't believe how long I was up there for. And they're doing A whole, whole thing on, like the rules of dance, of dance and, you know, certain dances with certain rules and being sort of the police of like making sure that people follow the rules and, you know, no lifts and certain dances and all these things. But when I tell you one, I couldn't really even hear what they were saying because the whole time in my mind I was thinking, I'm gonna have to dance. They're gonna make me dance. I'm gonna have to dance up here. I'm gonna have to do something. What am I gonna do? That was the only thought coursing through my brain. I'm like, I don't know what.

[Guest]

And.

[Ria]

They'Re naming these dances and they're saying, you know, like what? Jive, like the rules, you know, jive kicks and flicks, like all these things. And watching the video back, I realized they were being somewhat repetitive. Like I, if I just listened, I could have put it together, but I was just having an out of body experience. And also when they all look at you like that, like they're all so close and then they all went quick step. They all, all their. I looked up and all their faces are looking at me and I went, I literally, I went, I don't know, I was like, oh my God, they're all so close to me and everyone's looking right in my face. Like, Pasha's like, quick step. And I'm like, ah, no clue. Now as soon as I got back to my seat, I went, how, how hard would it been to say stay in frame?

[Fran]

Well, you said quick step and then Emma hit you.

[Ria]

Yeah, she roasted me.

[Fran]

Well, quite the line. She said, yeah, yeah. And she's commenting on the show, which was, which was great. She got, you know what? She gotcha.

[Ria]

And so fair. Because in the moment I crumbled greatly. But yeah, as soon as I got back to my seat, I looked at you and went, I can't, couldn't choke out stay in frame.

[Fran]

I mean, who could blame you? You know what I mean?

[Ria]

When I tell you, you get up.

[Fran]

There, everything's moving so fast.

[Ria]

Yes.

[Fran]

You don't know you're gonna be quizzed up there.

[Ria]

And Radio City's fucking huge. And I took one look out into the audience and was like, ah, like holy stage fright. But I, you know, if they ask me to go up there and chit chat, talkity talk, I'm good to go.

[Fran]

Right? You know, we do go, we go on stage.

[Ria]

Yes, it was, I knew there was a dance. Yeah. But let me tell you, it was There's. It goes all the way up to the top.

[Fran]

The added element of, like, knowing in the back of your head that you're gonna have to break out a dance move. Like, your biggest fear, 100%.

[Ria]

Like, I almost wish I just. I had to dance first. Like, it was like my dance moment happened first, and then I could be like, okay, well, that's when you were.

[Fran]

Thinking in your head, like, okay, I'm gonna have to dance at some point. What were you like, what were. What moves were going through your head? Like, you're like, what am I gonna hit right now?

[Ria]

Like, literally, I had zero. I was like, I. I felt like I was frozen solid. I thought, I don't know what I'm gonna do.

[Fran]

I was losing it.

[Ria]

I was like, do I pull out a little disco? Like. And I was like, well, what. What song's gonna play is this just. And it ended up being, who let the dog out? To be fair, Tough.

[Fran]

That's a tough, tough one song to dance to. Like, that doesn't really make you feel.

[Ria]

I just kind of jumping around for a second before Alan just lifted me in his arms. I said, thank God. Alan just twirled me. Alan, Alan, please just twirl me around.

[Fran]

But when you came back to your seat and you texted your family group chat, and they were like, I had to dance, and your brother just wrote OMFG back, I was losing it. I was like, it's literally your biggest. Going up there talking. No problem, no problem, no problem. Going up there and dancing. Your biggest nightmare come true. I was like, biggest nightmare. I grabbed your phone to film the entire thing. Thankfully, you left it behind. And I said to you. I was like, I tried to get everything I possibly could, and you looked at me and said, I would be fine if that footage blew up. What?

[Ria]

I thought you were just on stage. I know, but I was like. Because everyone's like, oh, my God. Post your dance.

[Fran]

I'm like, no, no, it's funny.

[Ria]

No, it is.

[Fran]

It is.

[Ria]

And you know what I hear the people saying? Oh, you can't get up there and dance. You want to go on the show?

[Fran]

I.

[Ria]

Know where I would fall if I got to be on this show. It's an early elimination.

[Fran]

You never know.

[Ria]

You never. Yeah, sure. You never know. But I would be so satisfied with. With just that. And you're also surrounded by the best dancers in the world. And I'm like, now you guys are all gonna crowd around me and watch me dance to let the dogs.

[Fran]

Right to, by the way. To Who Let the Dogs Out? Like, we need to talk about that song choice. Like, that is quite the choice.

[Ria]

But you know what? They're all so sweet, and Emma's so sweet, and I. Emma puts together such a. Like, such a great show. She basically hosts throughout the whole thing. And her. And Danielle Fishel, who was the star, who was a part of the show, and Alex Earle was there and Andy Richter was there. It was just, like. It was just so much fun. But they were. They were very, very sweet.

[Fran]

You know what they should have done?

[Ria]

I was like, you're right. I'm like, yeah, I'm good.

[Fran]

They should have had. They should have had Andy come out and dance battle you.

[Guest]

That would have been unreal.

[Fran]

They were like, all right, time to dance. Bring Andy out. And then they had a dance.

[Guest]

They started playing clips of Fran from the podcast. So let's see what Fran had to say about Andy.

[Fran]

Imagine it was, like, some planned thing to bring you up there and, like, go through.

[Guest]

Is Fran gonna be here?

[Ria]

Be a disaster. I already thought about that with Emma. Because here's the thing. I love Emma. Like, it's like, she's the best.

[Fran]

Like, I could listen to her talk.

[Ria]

All day long, and she's such an amazing dancer. I think she's so fun. I think she is so smart and is such, like, a star on the show because she is able to transform her partners into these, like, mega stars. She's so good at it. And I'm like, oh, my God.

[Fran]

Now, listen, she was able to get you with the dinger.

[Ria]

Yeah, she was. She was. Which is. Yeah. Fair.

[Fran]

I think it was very funny. The whole thing was amazing. Yes.

[Ria]

Yeah. And, yeah, I went home. I just, like, had to take Olive.

[Fran]

For a long walk.

[Ria]

Really? Just think about just listening to who.

[Guest]

Let the Dogs Out.

[Ria]

Just think about what happened. And I went home. Joe cooked dinner Sunday night, and he was like, damn, babe, you blow it. He's like, you're shot. You crumbled on stage. I said, yeah, I did.

[Fran]

No, anybody in that situation is not going up there. And by the way, you know, nailing every single question about. Yeah, no, that is.

[Ria]

I didn't know it was a quiz.

[Fran]

Yeah, you didn't know it was a quiz. You're being pulled up there. You have no idea.

[Ria]

All right? The only thing going through my mind from when they pulled me out of my seat was, oh, fuck, I'm gonna have to dance. Oh, fuck, I'm gonna have to dance. Oh, fuck, I'm gonna have to dance. And, like, I wasn't even anticipating having to be that. That much in. In a bit. I was just thinking they would pull me up there and they're gonna make me dance.

[Fran]

At some point, I have to dance.

[Ria]

And that's gonna be it. Ezra. Ezra made me giggle, which kind of, like, centered me for a moment, because as I was standing there, and he was, like, right in front of me, he looked at me, goes, they really let anybody up on this stage.

[Fran]

That's hilarious.

[Ria]

And it made me laugh. And I was like, thank you, Ezra, for giving, like, making me giggle for a second.

[Fran]

Listen, people must get up there and do some wild shit, though, when they're told to dance. Like. No, I know. Like, I'm thinking about when we bring people up on stage and they just hit a split or a worm and.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Fran]

All of a sudden, they're twerking people, like, naked. Like, you can literally, like, do whatever you want. When they're like, all right, dance. It's like, what? This is my time.

[Ria]

What would. What would your move have been?

[Fran]

Listen, I would have took up that whole stage. I literally would have done a fucking Runway walk down that whole thing. Dropped it low. Maybe I would have done a little jerk. Jerk. I know you're a jerk.

[Ria]

Maybe a little doggy to let the dog sit.

[Fran]

Yeah, you could do a jerk tip.

[Ria]

You totally can. Any of you really can. You can.

[Fran]

I probably would have, I don't know, start twerking the dogs out. Like, all I know is I would have. I would have done a whole Runway walk across that stage because I would have been like, this is the only time. This is the only time I'm gonna be on stage at Radio City Music also.

[Ria]

Yeah. That's how I felt.

[Fran]

And you never know.

[Ria]

Yeah, you never know. However, Radio City is owned by our guy at msg.

[Guest]

Oh.

[Fran]

Who doesn't let us do things.

[Ria]

Wouldn't let us ever.

[Guest]

What do you think of Radio City, though? Like, as a.

[Ria]

As a. I mean, I love Radio.

[Fran]

City, you know, It's a great venue. Extremely disorganized when you first show up, but. Yes, but great venue.

[Guest]

Beautiful. It makes you feel like you're.

[Ria]

No.

[Fran]

Yeah. You're like, oh, this is New York City. Yeah. Yeah. But they were.

[Ria]

I think, because it's also disorganized. It's a little bit of a.

[Fran]

Of a.

[Ria]

Older spot.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Ria]

They just have to, like, they're. Their security is a little outdated as far as, like, getting people through security. Security quick.

[Guest]

Yeah.

[Ria]

Like, you know how some venues now, you just, like, they. They have. They Got those things. I don't even know what they do, but you just walk right through, and it's just, like, moving people along. They were stopping and wanding, like, every person. So that's just, you know, it's gonna.

[Fran]

Move a little slower. My friend is pregnant, and she got up to the front of the line, and he goes, whoa, so you're pregnant? And she was like, yeah. And he was like, you good if I. If I wand you? And he. She was like, yeah, it's fine. And then it was.

[Ria]

But it was really something with the.

[Fran]

No. She was like, no, I'm fine to get X ray. Like, it's fine. And he was like, big congratulations, by the way. And it was just like. It's almost. He's never seen a pregnant woman before. Like, the way he was acting.

[Guest]

I need to call my manager.

[Fran]

No, he was, like, absolutely stunned. I was like, what is happening? Have you ever seen a pregnant woman walk through these doors? Yeah, it was bizarre. It was weird.

[Guest]

It is also, like, if you're wanting every single person, I hope that there's nothing. No. He literally goes into our skin or something.

[Fran]

At one point, I thought he asked to check her stomach because we were. It was. He was like, whoa, you pregnant?

[Ria]

Having a fake. A fake bump there?

[Fran]

No. I was like, fiona, do you know this man? He's so shocked you're pregnant.

[Ria]

Can you smuggle something in under a fake bump?

[Fran]

Yeah. I don't know what was happening, but he was caught off guard.

[Ria]

Crazy.

[Fran]

Yeah. Yeah. I don't know, but it was. It was really so much fun, and the dancing was incredible, and I'm so glad that we dream come true.

[Ria]

Thank you to all of them for. I don't really know the details of how this even came to be.

[Fran]

They must have known the row.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Fran]

You know what I mean?

[Ria]

Like, we were. We. We were invited to go, which was great. Like, so I'm sure they knew kind of where. Where we were, but, you know, didn't receive any confirmation of, like, oh, we heard you were coming, and we wanted to do that or whatever. I was just like, okay.

[Fran]

You were just like.

[Ria]

And I did not know, obviously, that that was cool you came back.

[Fran]

You were like, did you know? I was like, no, I had no idea. But I was being. I thought. I was delighted.

[Ria]

I thought it was, like, a complete setup. And I was like, oh, my God. They know. Like, this is a dream come true for me. I thought Javon knew. I thought everybody knew. You were all, like. None of us knew.

[Fran]

None of us knew.

[Ria]

None of us knew.

[Fran]

And it was even took us all by surprise.

[Ria]

None of us knew.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Ria]

But no, it was so much fun. So thanks. Thank you to the beautiful Dancing with the Stars live Cass, for letting me live out that. That dream moment despite my embarrassment of messing it up.

[Fran]

It's okay. It makes it even better. It makes it even funnier. All right, let's get into today's show. Really, just a lot of TV talk. We're going to be. Honestly, we're basically just diving right into the weekly watch reports.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Fran]

Because it's so much tv. We have a lot of TV to catch up on.

[Ria]

There's so much TV I haven't even watched yet because there's so much tv. I feel like there's an overwhelming amount of TV right now.

[Fran]

There is a good amount of tv.

[Ria]

Yeah, it's a good amount.

[Fran]

I love that we have it right. Overwhelming.

[Ria]

But great shows are on right now. But, like, there's things I gotta catch up on.

[Fran]

All right, let's get right into the weekly watch report.

[Ria]

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[Fran]

Weekly Watch report on Monday. Weekly Watch report on Monday. Weekly Watch report on Monday. Weekly Watch report on Monday. So there is a lot of TV that we got to talk about so much. But we're going to start off with the traders. Recap.

[Ria]

So much to talk about with traders.

[Fran]

Listen.

[Ria]

This man and potential reunion drama.

[Fran]

Potential reunion drama. Rob. This man. Rob.

[Ria]

Yeah, it's ridiculous.

[Fran]

It is getting to a point. Where it is fucking.

[Ria]

It's ridiculous.

[Fran]

Ridiculous. Yeah. And you won't find me going against him. No, I am standing firm on rooting for Rob.

[Ria]

No, it's. It's pretty crazy. I mean, perfectly summed up by who was saying it with his, like, you know, laying across the couch and his cropped vest, his arms out. Eric was like, and he's like freaking out as a cucumber.

[Fran]

He was like, this is big for me. I am freaking out. Rob is just laying on the couch stroking Maurice chair. I mean, seeing Dorinda talk about getting murdered by Rob. And she was basically like, thank you. Like, she was just like, he thought about me and that's what matters.

[Ria]

No, it's the fact that she was.

[Fran]

She was like, I had butterflies being murdered by him. It's so fucking funny. Like, everyone, or not everyone, but a lot of the ladies on the show were just in a trans when it came to Rob. And Dorinda was like, me, Natalie and Maura, like, were just mesmerized.

[Ria]

They just trusted him completely and wholly, absolutely mesmerized by him. The clips are so funny if you haven't seen it. You know, Dorinda went on the Traitors recap show with Bob the Drag Queen and Bossa Rob, and they're basically trying to be like, Dorinda, like, come on, you gotta be. He played you. And she's like, and I'd do it again and I'd have him play me all over again. She's like, look, I'm a 60 something year old woman. This is thrilling for me.

[Fran]

She was like, it's not often.

[Ria]

She's like, every morning I come down, I got butterflies looking at him.

[Fran]

No boss. And Rob was like, no, Dorinda, you come on the on to win the game. She was like, mm, mm. Yeah, I am just. I. I'm honored to be murdered by him, basically.

[Ria]

And she's like, and I've got no bone to pick. Yeah. She's like, I got no issue.

[Fran]

It's ridiculous.

[Ria]

I'm not mad about it at all. She's like, it's just like at the reunion, she'd just shake his hand and be like, thank you.

[Fran]

No. Like, Regina George punched me in the face. Yeah.

[Ria]

Which is just. It's just so funny. But no, Rob continues to play what appears to be a flawless game, really, because nobody's challenging him. Like, maybe it would be different if he was put into one difficult position one time and to see how he reacted, like, if there was any smoke on him once, to just See how he would maneuver it. But he hasn't had to deal with it at all. And honestly, Eric's ended up being probably a great choice because Eric's a terrible traitor. He's freaking out. It took one episode. Kristin has not thought about Rob once. It took one episode for her to be like, eric's acting weird.

[Fran]

We gotta look at Eric. When Kristin came to Rob and Mark and was like, if I get murdered, Eric, genuinely, I started cracking up. I'm like, this man. I couldn't believe it's being fed everything. He passed away.

[Ria]

I didn't think he was gonna tell Eric that, though. I thought he was gonna keep that a secret.

[Fran]

That's me, too, because I was like, oh, my God. He. Everyone's just giving him exactly what he needs at all times. He now knows Kristin's on to Eric. Perfect. He's going to use that against Eric. Yeah, he did end up telling Eric, but now they're in a situation where they need to decide whether they're going to murder Natalie, Tara, Johnny, or Kristen. Listen, Johnny and Tara blew up their own game. Like, they were like, we are basically. They were like, we are tired of lying about being best friends. Yeah, yeah, we're best friends. Get us off the show. Like, I think that they both were just like, we don't want to do this anymore. Like, literally, get rid of us or don't, but we're sticking by each other's side. Everyone at the table, Like, Mark was like, yeah, I mean, I. Like, I have partners I work with, too. Yeah, I wouldn't know. And they're like, no, no.

[Ria]

They're like, no, no, we're best friends.

[Fran]

Rob was like, tara and Johnny just.

[Ria]

Let everyone know how to react.

[Fran]

We're besties for the resties. Like, no. Literally, no one at the table knew what the to do. Everyone was like, yeah. Looking at them like.

[Ria]

Because they were also like, what are. What are you trying to prove from telling us this? That you know each other? Like, you know each other are faithfuls? Because you're like, no, no, we're best friends.

[Guest]

Yeah, that's what they're trying to say. They're trying to be like, no, I. I would trust them with my life. Like, yeah, so I trust you. Here's the thing.

[Fran]

Like, even if Fran and I went on this show together, I wouldn't trust you. Like, I wouldn't trust anybody.

[Ria]

I.

[Fran]

You know what I'm saying? Like, I guess I would be able to read if Fran was acting weird, and I think you would be able to Read if I'm acting weird, but I wouldn't 100% trust you or literally anybody in the castle.

[Ria]

I would never be able to do a show like this with, like, a friend at that level. Yeah, because you're just like. Like, I just. And because God forbid, one of you is a traitor. That's, like, my worst nightmare.

[Fran]

Right. And then all of a sudden, it's like, oh, my God, one of us has to be lying to each other the whole time. So.

[Ria]

Yeah, because it's also, like, borderline. Putting a friendship at risk for, like, a TV show.

[Fran]

Yeah. But then you have to go into it going like, all right, we're doing this as a game.

[Ria]

Like, yeah, but still, like, if I think, like, if we went on and you were a traitor and I was the faithful and you were lying to my face the whole time, and we came out, and I'd be like, I don't know. I know it's weird. I know it's a game. But, like, that was kind of fucked up. Yeah. Yeah.

[Fran]

It's different when you go on. But when you go on and you.

[Ria]

Don'T know anybody, you lie to everybody.

[Fran]

I don't care. If we got out. And you were like, yeah, you were really good at lying about being a trainer. Like, that's weird.

[Ria]

I also was thinking, too. It's like.

[Fran]

But I would.

[Ria]

We would never be able to lie about being as close as we are as well, because odds are somebody else in the cast would have been on our show at some point, probably for sure.

[Fran]

No, I always see the tiktoks that are like, get one glass of wine in me. And I'd be like, I have something to tell you. Yeah, don't tell anybody. Like, that would be me to Fran. I'd be like, listen, promise me you're not gonna tell anybody.

[Ria]

Yeah, I'm a traitor.

[Fran]

No, don't tell anybody.

[Ria]

You'd be like, spelling out somebody's name at breakfast, like, in your food, at me. Be like.

[Fran]

I'd be like, I literally would be sending signs. I wouldn't be able to hold it in. I'd be like, I can't fucking lie about this.

[Ria]

But that's why it's so funny that they made it this far. Then they had to be like, we're best friends. And I. I've seen so many funny memes about the two of them. Cause they're like, all these faithfuls, all these fables are incredibly dumb. Johnny and Tara are glamorously dumb.

[Fran]

It's, like, so true.

[Ria]

Which is so true. Because they are just. They are not. They have not followed one lead, really, in the right direction.

[Fran]

No. It's hilarious.

[Ria]

Johnny. Maybe a little bit more, but I think they're just like, damn, we're still here.

[Fran]

Eric and Rob putting everything on Tara in that challenge.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Fran]

I was like, okay, this is so fucked up. He was so smart. But I'm like, no, Poor Tara.

[Ria]

She's like, really gonna confuse him.

[Fran]

And she's like, are you fucking serious, Aaron?

[Ria]

Tab just coming out of that box. She's like, what?

[Fran]

Yeah. And Johnny, just reflect. Refusing to put her name down for anything. I'm like, see, that's why you just can't go on with a best friend like that, because it's gonna put you in a spot where they're probably like, listen, our friendship means more than this fucking game. Like, we don't. Yeah, we don't need to win this game.

[Ria]

And by the way. And by the way, I did laugh, too. I was like, there's no way. They couldn't make. They couldn't make one of them a traitor and one of them a faithful because, my God, NBC would lose their best figure skating.

[Fran]

Oh, no, they can't.

[Ria]

Like, imagine if their friendship crumbled after Traders be like, what. What would they do?

[Guest]

Like, do you think now I'm kind of like, if they did that, would they have been able to do that? Like, Johnny, they should have done something where they have been like, I can't do this.

[Fran]

They should have done something. Like, something could have happened, because I think that would make things interesting. But I just feel like you can't go into that game trusting anybody, like, as much as you want to. Even if I was Johnny and Tara, I'd be like, like, yes, I trust you 100 outside this game. But, like, we're in the cat. Like, you know, it's so hard. It's. It's a game about lying.

[Ria]

And it's just so crazy that none of the. Nobody has looked at Rob any different way. And, like, I still.

[Fran]

If he doesn't win his game, to lose.

[Ria]

It really is. If. If he. If he doesn't win, it's like he. He really something up at the end here because it's just like, nobody is thinking about him. And even, like, after all the Candace stuff, still no one's thinking, like, maybe this goes back to Rob.

[Fran]

So much so that Natalie apologized to Rob and Eric. Natalie's apologizing to the two traitors. She's like, sorry, guys. And they're like, yeah, you know we all miss. I'm like, this is honestly incredible TV to watch. Although, thankfully, it's the last two episodes, because I could see, again, real boring and repetitive after this. You know what I mean? Like, it's gotten to the point where things are just getting serious now because.

[Ria]

Like, we know there's not much stuff they can do.

[Fran]

It's such a bad trader because.

[Ria]

So bad.

[Fran]

They're. Because Moore's like, how many do you think are left? He's like, I would have to say two. You. You already got three. You could be like, I have no idea. I would. Maybe one. Like, he's like, yeah, it's probably two left. Like, he's just scrambling. And, you know, he's. He's new to it, but so I could see Rob at the end being like, fuck all you. I did this by myself. I'm taking all the money. Like, I don't know, 100%. I always forget, like, the ending of the Traitors is always different depending on if traitors are there, if it's still faithful, because they have to, like, vote if they think there's any more traitors.

[Guest]

Right?

[Fran]

And then it's like, no, they think everyone's a faithful. And then they all reveal, like, how Siri. Siri did in the first season, and she was like, I'm a traitor. And they were like, no, I think that's what's gonna happen with Rob. Like, I can't wait to see their reactions when they realize this. Quote, unquote, sweet, sweet man.

[Ria]

Cause here's the thing.

[Fran]

I think that they might think that Rob's, like, too dumb and pretty. Like, that's how they look at him. They're like, he's not smart and he's really good looking and he can't figure this out.

[Ria]

No, he's being wildly underestimated. I think that. I think that they'll be really hot on Eric, and if they get Eric out, they'll be like, okay, now we've gotten four traders total out of here. I think they're gonna feel really confident that everybody left our faithfuls.

[Fran]

Mm, that's true. That's a good one. Because if they vote Johnny or Tara next and they're not going to be. They're going to be. They're going to be like, oh, fuck, there's still another traitor here. But they got to be a traitor. They're going to be like, yeah, I.

[Ria]

Think if they get Eric, they're going to be like, numbers are on our side.

[Fran]

Yeah. They'd be like, we're Done.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Fran]

I mean, who. Who do you think that they should murder?

[Ria]

I was thinking this. I mean.

[Fran]

Not Johnny or Tara. They have to keep them both because the scent is so strong on them that it's like, why would you send them home? Yeah.

[Ria]

Which is why it could be Mark.

[Fran]

Well, no, they have to get. There's. It's Natalie, Kristen.

[Ria]

Oh, right, I forgot. There's only certain people that they can murder. Yeah.

[Fran]

Natalie, Mark's not a part of that. No.

[Ria]

Natalie, Kristen, Johnny or Tara. I mean, I don't know, maybe Johnny, I think. I don't think Johnny's really hot on either of them that anyone would be like, oh, if Johnny's murdered, it's probably this person, you know?

[Fran]

Right. But I just feel like sending home Johnny or Tara would be silly because there's so much scent on them that you want to keep them around. Whereas like if you send Kristen home, then obviously everyone's going to look at Eric. But you can maybe convince other people that it's right, that it was Tara's.

[Ria]

Right move would be. Would be Kristen.

[Fran]

Right. But.

[Ria]

But I don't know if like him telling Eric that Kristen was like, oh, if she go like she's on to you, like, I don't know if Eric's going to fight back on that.

[Fran]

Yeah. I feel like you can maybe make the argument though that if Kristen gets murdered, you can put it on Tara because she was so after Tara.

[Ria]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Fran]

And then Natalie, if she gets murdered, it's not being traced back to Robert.

[Guest]

Eric.

[Fran]

Because she's so close. She's so close with them. So.

[Ria]

Right. I guess maybe Natalie is the right choice.

[Fran]

I feel like Natalie would be a good choice. And also Natalie has not been great. No.

[Ria]

No.

[Fran]

And she's been kind of annoying at times.

[Ria]

No. And she. No, she also has not been like.

[Fran]

When she was looking at Rob being like, say that you have the dagger because they're gonna murder me tonight. I'm like, why are you doing this right now?

[Ria]

Yeah, she kind of crumbles. She panics in the high pressure situation. Which you really wouldn't think from what was she on Survivor?

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Ria]

Between that and the banquet, it was like those moments of pure panic. And then she goes full like selfish thinking mode.

[Fran]

Pressure.

[Ria]

Yeah, the pressure. Really? Cause obviously she wants to make the end. Yeah. I thought that was a little weird. And of course like Rob was like, whatever. Cuz it's not like a big deal for me to have to reveal it, but for her to be like, tell everybody you have the dagger. I've been like, shut up.

[Fran]

Yeah. Like what?

[Ria]

Yeah, why are you doing this right now?

[Fran]

And then that wasn't talked about again.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Fran]

Like, no one talked about him having the dagger again.

[Ria]

I know. Well, maybe they did. And those roundtables always go on for so long, allegedly. And we don't really got to see every conversation.

[Fran]

I mean, like, even after, when they go back to the castle, like, no, the dagger.

[Ria]

I know. I imagine they'll.

[Fran]

Well, they'll.

[Ria]

They'll. They'll definitely talk about it when they get closer to another roundtable, because then they're going to have to really keep that into. Into consideration if he flips on Eric.

[Fran]

And uses both against him. I mean, listen, you got to do what you got to do. And if the stuff. If the stench is hard on Eric. Yeah, he's going to have to do it. He's going to have to do Eric like he did Lisa and Candace. Yeah, if. If the stench is hard, you gotta. Gotta escape it. Especially that close to the end.

[Ria]

I know. It's actually so crazy. And then. So allegedly they filmed. Well, they did. Now wasn't even allegedly they filmed the reunion. Yeah, but allegedly, allegedly at the reunion, there was some occurrence with. With Colton and Lisa Rinna. Sources have been saying to multiple, you know, social media accounts and fan pages and all those things that Lisa did confront Colton about the whole hostage statement that he said on the show, I think alluding to perhaps the stalking allegations and using that term hostage and all those things. And I saw multiple reports. I saw reports that it was like Colton stormed off stage and it was a whole big thing, and refused to answer any questions that had to do with that or else he was gonna leave. I also saw that, like, it was brought up and Colton was upset about it, and there was already kind of like a plan break. So he had left the stage and had said, you know, I don't want this line of questioning and blah, blah, blah. And so they weren't able to bring it up. And then Lisa herself posted on her social, like, you know, reunion happened. I did what I did what I needed to do kind of thing. She couldn't really say much more than that.

[Fran]

She was like, he wanted housewife.

[Ria]

Yeah, I gave him housewife, which is. Which, you know, is fair.

[Fran]

You don't ask for the housewife to come out unless you want it.

[Ria]

You don't poke the bear.

[Fran]

Especially with a reunion hosted by Andy Cohen.

[Ria]

You don't poke the bear unless you want the bear to come out. And I'm sure that's what happened. I'm just very interested to see what they show. I am very anxious to see if they. If they put this in, if they don't, if they talk about it at all. Because at the end of the day it's like, okay, you wanna. You feel like those things should be addressed. Cuz it's been such a big discussion for fans while the show's been on and I'm sure there's a lot of questions about it. But then it's like, well, you cast him knowing all of this anyway. So it's like is it like a poor reflection on you to then bring it kind of that back and forth of like well, we don't really want that to be the focus.

[Fran]

Right.

[Ria]

Because then it's not focused as much on the show. But then it's like this is your own fault for put, you know, putting him on the show knowing. Knowing that this is what people were going to talk about. So I'm just really, I'm really interested to see what they show.

[Fran]

Yeah, I think that the reunion especially also because Rob and Candace, I feel like Candace is going to go for Rob but for me it's like I really enjoyed Candace on the show and I think that she did a great job. No one was onto her and I think that she sunk her ship by tying herself to Lisa Rinna too much. Like, I think that there was no reason to tie herself to Lisa like that and she probably could have made it so much further and potentially even won at the end. And other than that though, I think Rob wins that argument with just like, you know, I was playing a game.

[Ria]

Yeah. By the way, the Colton finding out Rob is a trader video underwhelming. I thought he. I thought he was gonna be a little more surprised.

[Fran]

I think he was trying to play cool.

[Ria]

You know, I guess there's some rumors online that they think that Rob and Colton were working so closely together that Rob tipped Colton off on who are the traitors.

[Fran]

I don't think so. I don't think so either. I think, I don't know. I, I really think that they like have people just want to believe that but I really think that they have things in the contract and I was reading this that like first of all they are 100 not allowed to tell people that they're a traitor. Yeah. And then on top of that you can't like swear on family members and stuff that you are a faithful or something because remember we talked about this happened. Where didn't that happen? He went to Say past seasons.

[Ria]

Past seasons. Didn't someone did that?

[Fran]

I don't remember that.

[Ria]

Oh, I thought maybe not did it. Who's the one with Danielle? Didn't Danielle say, like, I'm a. Like, I'm a grandmother, like, whatever she was saying. Oh, in the other season when she was, like, trying to prove to everyone she was a faithful sometimes maybe not like, I swear on them, but, like, close.

[Fran]

Close to it. Yeah. Because remember, Stephen, I caught this when he went to say I swear, and then he, like, changed what he was about to say.

[Ria]

Yeah, yeah.

[Fran]

And I was like, that's weird. They must, like, really not be allowed to say that. And then I saw someone comment that must have been on one iteration of the show in one country that was like, it's in the contract that you can't, like, swear on family members lives. Right, right. That makes sense because then everyone will be swearing up and down the hill. They'd be like, I. I literally swear on my life that I am a faithful God.

[Ria]

I'm not. I mean, it's gonna. It's like an impossible Google search. But I feel like trade. Like, I feel like Danielle said something.

[Fran]

I do remember what you're saying. And it was like, she didn't swear.

[Ria]

Shell says Danielle swore on her grandkids.

[Fran]

Oh.

[Ria]

So I don't know if we heard her say it.

[Guest]

I don't think we heard her say it.

[Ria]

I don't think we heard her say it. But I think Chrishell was saying that she was saying it to people.

[Fran]

Okay. Yeah. So they must have cut that out because you can't say it. So they must have just not put that in. And then. Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Ria]

Yes. Which is why I think that was something that they talked about in the reunion, because they were like, you. You were swearing on your grandkids.

[Fran]

Right. I wouldn't swear if I was a traitor. I would just swear if I was a faithful. I'd be like, I swear I'm a faithful. I swear.

[Guest]

They all say they're like, I'm 100. It's like, oh, you're 100?

[Fran]

Yeah, that's what they say, I'm 100 faithful. But I guess that's not swearing, but, like, if you're gonna swear on someone's life, you gotta be. You gotta be telling the truth, in my opinion.

[Ria]

Yeah, agreed.

[Fran]

You know?

[Ria]

Agreed.

[Fran]

So. Yeah. Well, I cannot wait for the next two episodes. I mean, I wish the finale was this week. I. Like I said, I've been trying to figure out how the fuck this ends.

[Ria]

I know, I know.

[Fran]

It's the first show that I've ever been like, well, I guess besides the Bachelor years ago, but like, that I'm really looking for spoilers. Like, if something just comes across my desk, you know, I can't help myself, but I have, like, actively been seeking out the fucking spoiler of this show, and it is locked tight, man. It is nowhere to be found.

[Ria]

No. I'm very excited to see how it all ends. And once again, you know, Rob, he's just flying through it.

[Fran]

He is. And then they did at Dancing with the Stars live, put up a thing. Rob Roush, Ezra.

[Ria]

Perfect.

[Fran]

We can only hope.

[Ria]

Rashford, dwts.

[Fran]

Do you think Conflicting networks.

[Ria]

Yes, but I think that they would still, like. I think it wouldn't be a problem.

[Fran]

They would be like, listen, we need the viewership.

[Ria]

He can come in so popular enough. It's like. I mean, they. They wanted Boston Rob True on Dance with the Stars. Allegedly. And he turned him down.

[Fran]

Oh, and Dylan up.

[Ria]

Rob. Dylan. Yeah.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Guest]

So it's also like, Rob's not, like, working for Peacock or NBC.

[Ria]

No, no. I mean, obviously it's different because it's like boss of Rob's coming from Survivor, which was, hey, another network, cbs. And Dylan wasn't on, like, a show before Rob's, like, came through the. The NBC Universal.

[Fran]

Right.

[Ria]

But I feel like. I don't think that. I don't think it would be an issue right now.

[Fran]

Robert's making crossovers these days. I don't know.

[Ria]

And Dancing with the Stars through the years has always pulled different people from different worlds. And shows and networks, of course, they. Now they're pushing heavy the. The like, ABC world of reality people. But I. If Rob comes out of this show as the fucking winner of like and. And. And just crushes traders, they're gonna want him.

[Fran]

Yeah. I wonder if he would do it.

[Guest]

So you're rooting for Rob, like, these final episodes. I think it would be more fun, like, in terms of a viewing experience to see. To see him get got when he thinks he hasn't.

[Fran]

Oh, no, I am.

[Guest]

It's like. It seems like a lock that he's gonna win at this point.

[Fran]

I, like, at this point. I'm not rooting for the faithfuls whatsoever. I actually would be really disappointed if they won. Like, I would be like. Like, no, he. He. He fucking rocked this whole game. I would be pissed if he lost.

[Ria]

We also are under the rock spell.

[Guest]

I.

[Fran]

Listen, I. If Rob sat like, table.

[Ria]

These girls, the pretty privileged. They're all wearing. We're like, yeah, we want Rob to win.

[Fran]

No, I. I mean, listen, he's also just done such a good job that I'm like, I would be pissed of. All of a sudden, the faithfuls win at the end. I'd be like, they didn't do shit.

[Ria]

But it's like, he's doing. Yeah, he is doing such a good job because he hasn't had one single challenge.

[Fran]

Yeah, Like, Right. But he also has been playing smart, though.

[Ria]

Yeah, true.

[Fran]

He's been playing smart.

[Ria]

He's been playing smart. And you can look at the movie moves he's made when he's turned on the other traders recruiting Eric, like, they all probably are gonna benefit him greatly at this point. Even just. And the one second we saw of people doubting Eric, it's like, yeah, now this is probably gonna make sense. But here's the thing. It's like, I don't know. We'll see how it pans out. But if Kristin is so much on Eric and she's like, your attitude is changing now, you would think that that would make you think, oh, my God, maybe he's been recruited because he was acting one way the whole show. Now he's acting completely different. Which then would make you think, well, then there's gotta be one other traitor, because then who the hell recruited him?

[Fran]

Yeah, the fact that they won't even look at Rob's direction.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Fran]

Like, Maura jumps down anybody's throat who accuses. Like, she's just like. You don't hear more speak. And then all of a sudden, someone.

[Guest]

Like, that's someone that I want to see her reaction to Rob.

[Ria]

You know, Rob was carrying me physically through every single challenge. I'm not down. If she.

[Fran]

She jumps down anybody's throw, even it's not Rob. She's like. Like Morris quiet. And then gets so defensive.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Fran]

Also, Eric, easy fucking response to you being accused of being quiet. I've been wrong about everything else, so I'm a little nervous to speak up now. Like, so he did the one thing.

[Guest]

You can't do, which is like, Eric.

[Fran]

Had, like, such an easy defense to be like, I know I've been so wrong that I'm actually just now I'm rethinking the game.

[Ria]

He's so sweet, some people. And it's nice because it gives you a little bit of. And I, you know, faith. He was a faithful. To give you a little bit of faith that there's some people out there who just cannot tell a lie. And I feel he is one of them. Like, he just, he cannot tell a lie.

[Fran]

He crumbles. He. He's.

[Ria]

He is grumbling under the pressure of telling a lie.

[Fran]

Like, and like Kristen, I would, I would be scared totally. Like, oh, fuck yeah.

[Guest]

But do you think if they go after Eric and get Eric and then it's like Rob is like three for three and like every time he speaks up, he's just getting a traitor. Like, no one's gonna be.

[Ria]

No, I don't think. I don't think Rob needs. You don't the one.

[Guest]

But you don't think he would.

[Ria]

I don't think Rob needs to be the one to lead the charge. I think Rob can kind of sit back and if they keep Kristen, Kristen is going to go hard for Eric, I think. And then he can be like, Kristen made a good argument, right. And flip his thing over, back her.

[Guest]

Up a little bit. Because I feel like Kristen is like telling Rob, like, Eric's being weird. So it's like he can't just not acknowledge.

[Fran]

Well, he could do it. Like what Candace did. Yeah, like what he did to Candace. Like, he didn't go hard at Candace. He did it.

[Ria]

It's not. Which is why it's just like, I don't think he. I don't think he's gonna have to say to anybody, like, guys, I think it's Eric. Guys, I think it's Eric. Like, I think he could just.

[Fran]

I think Mark and. And Kristen are going to be spreading it.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Ria]

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[Fran]

Yes, we could talk about episode seven of Tell Me Lies. You know, there is a lot to unpack in the final episode that's coming up.

[Ria]

So much to unpack.

[Fran]

They. They really opened up a lot of storylines that they're gonna have to potentially wrap up forever.

[Ria]

Forever. Potentially forever. I don't know. I don't know. We're. Because I think we're in this limbo of not knowing if the show's gonna continue. And I think them saying, like, oh, the show could end after season three has all of our minds jumbled. Like, it's kind of putting us in a pretzel of like, so is it the end? Is it not? And if it is the end, are we going to be disappointed by them saying, this could wrap up the whole show? Because watching episode seven, I'm like, my God, how could we possibly wrap it up? I thought maybe there'd be another jump to the wedding. There wasn't. So, like, there's no time. Wedding time to see, like, how that's all going with Stephen putting that stuff together with the, with the phone. And just when I thought. And by the way, the most really pointless, evil character on this show, Oliver, like, he's done nothing but create turmoil and distress for everybody. And I don't find. I don't think there's gonna be like any reckoning for him. I think it's just like, I think it's just there's so much going on with his storyline that I'm like, they kind of have to ignore it for the eighth episode, which is, I think, gonna be super annoying. I'll be shocked if it's the other way just because it's like there's this. Not only there's this stuff with Bri, there's this stuff with what's her face, what's the younger girl's name too? Iris Apatow's character.

[Fran]

Amanda.

[Ria]

Amanda. There's a stuff with his wife, there's a stuff with Evan. Like, there's just so much that it's like you need three episodes just to figure out what the fuck's going to go on with Oliver.

[Fran]

They opened up too much with Oliver. That now they're not going to have time to close, right?

[Ria]

And it's like, because we need to.

[Fran]

Close everything else because now we just don't care about Oliver when it comes.

[Ria]

To everybody, every other character, every other relationship. And it's almost like Oliver's just been used as a catalyst to create drama for everybody else, but not really have any. Like, there's no consequences. Like, it's just like him telling Evan, like, hey, you basically just need breed and need you. And Evan interpreting. Like, Evan taking that and being like, oh, I know how I'll get her to need me. Ruin her potential relationship with her mom. What kind of crazy jump is that?

[Fran]

You psycho evil people, they're all insane, psycho evil people.

[Ria]

You're like, oh, oh, I gotta show Brie that she needs me. I'll cut off her family.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Ria]

So she finally gets to have a good relationship, or she's working on a relationship with her mom. Evan goes and gets her drunk before the art gallery thing. And when he whispers to Bri that she was like this when he picked her up, I almost threw my phone and smashed my television. I went, oh, oh. At 2, Evan.

[Fran]

Just when you think that Evan's not as bad as the rest of them.

[Ria]

Yep, he pulls. Maybe the worst move of them all. I couldn't believe it. This is definitely not the worst move of them all. Not the worst move of them all. Not the worst move of all. But in the moment, like, if. If you. If I thought about it, it's like, yes, Steve has done some crazy shit. But, like. And I. And even there, I mean, other people's family members have been involved. Wrigley, obviously. But going for Bree's mom, who has had her fair share of issues and breeze finally coming around and potentially being able to have some sort of relationship with her and is clearly walking on eggshells because she doesn't want to fuck it up. And then you just blow it up. You just blow it all up. I couldn't believe it. What a absolute asshole move.

[Fran]

Really insane. And you're almost thinking, like, how do they come up with this shit? You know what I mean? Like, oh, Evan's gonna go get Bree's mom drunk and bring it.

[Guest]

Bring her to the show.

[Ria]

And, like, by the way, you're like, you're watching like, doo to do, like, oh, that's nice. Evan offered to pick her up. Like, okay.

[Fran]

Oh, can't possibly be a nice thing.

[Ria]

And I kind of thought, oh. When he's like, oh, do you want to get a drink before I'M like, oh, that's maybe, like, not a great idea, but it was him. Oh. I picked her up like this. I went, oh, my God. So crazy. So, by the way, like, desperate and gross. Like, really unattractive and desperate.

[Fran]

Yeah. Taking Oliver's advice there.

[Ria]

Yeah. Really desperate.

[Guest]

Asking for his advice at all.

[Fran]

Yeah. Is hilarious.

[Ria]

And it's just like, oh. And then he gets to actually marry her, too.

[Fran]

I'm like, ugh, no.

[Ria]

God doesn't deserve that. And I mean, one after another just got worse and worse. Pippa. Pippa's been cheating on Wrigley forever. She's in love with Diana, and Wrigley breaks up with her, and she has the gall to, like, be, like, the victim in it.

[Fran]

The way that this pissed me off so much, because Diana and her had, like, broken up right before that. She gets broken up with twice in one day, and it's like, all of a sudden, she's coercing Wrigley to have sex with her, and you can tell he didn't want to.

[Ria]

Really uncomfortable.

[Fran]

So uncomfortable.

[Ria]

Really uncomfortable. As you're just like, okay, so you've been cheating on Diana. He breaks up with you. You're now acting like you're upset that Wrigley broke up with you, and you're being like, oh, I'm sad. Really broke up with me. Okay. Not a lot of ground to stand on There you go to Diana. That implodes. So you go back to Wrigley.

[Fran]

Awful.

[Ria]

Awful.

[Fran]

Absolutely awful.

[Ria]

Awful, awful, awful.

[Guest]

I do think initially she had to act, like, somewhat upset because if she didn't, it would have been too obvious.

[Ria]

Right. So then she, like, went to Diane. It was like, I was broken up.

[Fran]

But also, Wrigley was like, you don't. You don't feel what I'm feeling. Like, she could have been, like.

[Ria]

She could have been like, you know what?

[Fran]

You're right.

[Ria]

I love. Like, you're probably. Probably right. Like, and I think maybe we are better exactly.

[Guest]

For what she did. Being like, you're only with me because you feel bad.

[Fran]

She was. She was stunned. She was absolutely stunned.

[Ria]

Shocking.

[Fran]

What do you mean you're stunned? And. And Wrigley was like, wait, you know, and he was really trying to stick to his feelings, and she made him feel bad and, like, you know, was like, you know, please have sex with me, and it made him feel bad and, like, you know, coerced him into that.

[Guest]

And then calling him.

[Fran]

And then. Poor Brie.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Fran]

Once again. And honestly, like, I am so rooting for Wrigley and Pre. To be together.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Fran]

But doesn't seem likely at this point.

[Ria]

Yeah, it's. I'm not quite sure what's happening with Lucy's mental state because you're watching things happen. So, like, in our reality, these things are happening, but then she's forgetting things. And like, you know, she had that conversation with the girl that was with Steven of like, where. And then the girl's like, you already told me this, Lucy. And she's like, oh, my God, I did. Which makes you second guess her storyline of like, what's happening? And you're, you're like, you're second guessing her, her narrative, like how she's seeing things. So she goes. She goes to Steve and has this absolute meltdown breakdown. He gives her back the. The tape, and you're just kind of like, wow, he's giving her back the tape. Which feels like something he wouldn't do. But I had a lot of people in my DM saying this too, and it made a lot of sense of like, he's all, he's in it for the game. He's in it for the back and forth. He's in it for the I torture you, you, you try to torture me kind of thing. And like, seeing her absolutely crumble, like, this is not like the fun game that he thinks torturing her is, and gives it back to her. But then you're also kind of like, is she remembering this all correctly? I don't know. Cause she's remembering other things not correctly.

[Fran]

Yeah, it did feel like in that moment he was kind of like, okay, like, this has gone too far. Like, like he was like, this isn't fun anymore for me. Like, you lost your mind.

[Ria]

Yeah. And it wasn't the best strategy from Lucy too, to, like, try to like, get back together with him to get the tape. Yeah, well, earlier in the episode, you.

[Fran]

Know, she doesn't know what's going on.

[Ria]

No, she has no clue.

[Fran]

Like, she's been put into a.

[Ria]

No, she is, She's. She's trying everything. She is. Absolutely. She is.

[Guest]

She did think she was like kind of genius at the beginning of that where she's.

[Ria]

Yeah, but I mean, she's so cr. Like mentally crushed by him having this tape that's like, obviously you see it, she crumbles. Then she has this moment of relief where she gets it back. She seems like she can finally breathe for the first time. And Brie sees the Facebook pictures and looking back on them and is like, oh, Lucy and Evan look pretty cozy in the back of this photo, you're going, oh, no. Which all obviously ties back, which is where I think, like, a lot can be covered in episode eight. But all the, like, side storylines. That's where I think we're going to be disappointed that those things aren't maybe touched on as much.

[Fran]

But we also need a lot of the present. We need a lot of the what's happening in 2015.

[Ria]

We need a lot of the wedding. Like, give me the wedding. We need what's going on there. Because all we. We. We see Bri say, like, I'm the worst person ever.

[Fran]

Right. So we're. We need to know what she did.

[Ria]

What she did.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Ria]

Which is not good because obviously you see her looking at that picture. She's marrying Evan. She doesn't seem that upset, like, about the. Well, she already knew about it, clearly.

[Fran]

Or.

[Ria]

Or put something together. So you gotta think she does something to Lucy.

[Fran]

Right? Because Lucy's in her wedding.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Fran]

She's marrying Evan. What could it.

[Ria]

Right. You gotta think she does something to Lucy that's like a secret.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Ria]

The options are endless.

[Fran]

The options really are endless.

[Ria]

The captions are endless. Because there she's got on Lucy.

[Fran]

You never know where their show's going.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Ria]

Which is not good. I saw. I've seen a lot of theories of, like, Bree's gonna take the.

[Guest]

The.

[Ria]

The tape.

[Fran]

The tape. Well, Lucy should have like, fucking crushed that shit and threw it in the garbage. Like, littered on fire. Immediately.

[Ria]

Immediately, Immediately. So I don't know, like, Steven wouldn't.

[Fran]

Sneak back in and take it back.

[Ria]

Right. You know, it's also like, Stephen gives her the. The file, but it's. How do you know he hasn't had. He doesn't have like a million copies.

[Fran]

And he's like, you know, how do you know? I don't make a cop. You just have to trust, you know?

[Ria]

Yeah. No, I. I really don't trust you at all.

[Fran]

No, why would I. Why would.

[Guest]

I fell for it, though? I was like, you know what? I believe him.

[Fran]

Like, I don't think he has a copy.

[Guest]

I don't know. He felt bad. Like, he. That was the first time I think ever that on his face. I was like, does he actually feel bad?

[Fran]

I don't know if he felt bad or was just like, nah, this isn't fun anymore.

[Ria]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Fran]

You know, I don't know if he's capable of feeling bad.

[Ria]

Yep, Agreed.

[Fran]

But I get what you're saying, you know, like, don't let him have this moment of humility. Right. Now because he is such a piece of garbage. But I will give. Didn't rate. Traitors. I'll give it an A. I will give. Tell me lies an A minus. Love is blind.

[Ria]

I haven't started yet.

[Fran]

I won't spoil anything. But love is blind. The classic formula of you're watching it, you're going, eh, me too. This ain't gonna work. And you just watching. The greatest is watching them all meet for the first time.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Fran]

Yeah. For like when they. When they mix and mingle.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Fran]

And they get together and you just get to see it all, like, kind of, you know, dwindle.

[Ria]

There's one like, bad guy on here, right? There's like a guy that I. I saw was accused by like, multiple women of like, I think assault.

[Fran]

Who?

[Ria]

I'm not sure which one.

[Fran]

I didn't see that.

[Ria]

Yeah, there's like a. They made like a website.

[Fran]

Oh, I did not see that.

[Ria]

Yeah, I. I'm not sure what happened, but I think he's like, I guess now I'm seeing this news article that this guy's suing her.

[Fran]

Oh.

[Ria]

Accusing her of defamation after she publicly alleged he sexually assaulted her.

[Fran]

Oh, my God. Yeah, well, I gotta look into that. That's not good. I didn't see that.

[Ria]

Not good. I will give you watch all the. All the episodes.

[Fran]

All the episodes. I will give it a B plus. It is always entertaining. You always are like, oh, my God, these people may wear. No, no, this ain't gonna work. I watched the Love Story. John F. Kennedy Jr. And Carolyn. Carolyn Bessette. Listen, I watched all three episodes really fast, back to back to back. Sometimes I just like a show that's like in New York City. And honestly, watching this, like, I. I separated it from the real life story because a lot of people are like, this is, you know, not all of it is how. Right. It's like fabricated. A lot of made up events.

[Ria]

A lot of stuff's dramatized.

[Fran]

Right. A lot of it's dramatized. And people didn't really know the ins and outs of their relationship like they think they did and all of that. So I kind of watched it in a lens of. As if I was watching a show that wasn't about real people, even though it is about real people. And I think you kind of have to look at like a Ryan Murphy show like that because a lot. Because there's so much now about.

[Ria]

Yeah. And I mean, Ryan Murphy does that with the major. With most the shows.

[Fran]

Naomi Watts is as Jackie not your cup of tea. I had to, like, fast forward at points.

[Guest]

I was like, I agree.

[Fran]

Holy shit. Like, this is bad.

[Guest]

Now I'm forgetting her name. Dakota Fanning was bad. Not Dakota Fanning. Dakota Johnson.

[Ria]

Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh. Johnson.

[Fran]

Am I thinking Natalie Portman?

[Ria]

Portman played Jackie.

[Fran]

Are you thinking Kristen Stewart as Princess Diana? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Ria]

I was gonna say that's got it.

[Fran]

Okay. Yeah. No, I had to fast forward. I was like, this is not good. I'm uncomfortable.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Fran]

And then Daryl Hannah. You know, I don't know much about her, but they made her character also insufferable as well. I think that the two mains have fantastic chemistry, in my opinion. I think that the actors that play JFK Jr. And Carolyn have great chemistry. And yeah, it's good. I'll give it a B. Like, I'm enjoying my time watching it. But I understand if people have gripes with it because they're like, you know, nobody ever even really heard Carolyn talk. You know, she never did interviews.

[Ria]

Nope. There's apparently only 18 seconds of her.

[Fran]

Right. So you don't really know how she would act. They only have stories that people told about her.

[Ria]

Right. And which I guess gives or set. Like Sarah Pigeon. You think her last name is just pronounced Pigeon?

[Fran]

I think so. It's gotta be.

[Ria]

Right?

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Ria]

More creative liberties, I think, in that case. And she's. I think she's fantastic.

[Fran]

I think she's really good now. I think she's acting like Carolyn. I have no idea.

[Ria]

No clue.

[Fran]

But I think she's really good.

[Ria]

She's really good. Because at first, like, with jfk, I was like, I don't know about this one. Like, I, I, I, I wasn't buying him. I wasn't. I mean, granted, they look exactly the same, of course, like, they, that's was the main reason for this, for this casting. But the acting, I was like, I don't know. And he's definitely gotten better as it's gone on. But, like, halfway through the first episode, I was like, I don't know if I'm buying this guy. And it definitely, it definitely got a lot better. For sure. They do have great chemistry. Yeah. I don't know much about, about Daryl, but I do think that there's a lot about her as a person that how she was like, off camera and stuff that maybe connects to this. It's like you said, it's tough to watch a show like this because you, at least for me, like, I'm watching scenes and I'm immediately Googling, like, how did this happen? And did this happen? Like the dog dying. I was like, oh, my God, did this really happen?

[Fran]

Did. Right.

[Ria]

So it's like, there's certain things that I'm just like, oh, my God. Right, you're fact checking almost.

[Fran]

Yeah. Because some of the stuff at Calvin Klein, like, didn't happen. Like, they didn't meet that way. Calvin Klein, I think it was like he came in for a fitting and she fitted him and that's how it did. But, like, they didn't meet at this event by Calvin Klein. So there are obviously some things that are just, like, kind of thrown in there to, like, make a good show. But I think the casting, like, looks wise, is pretty spot on.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Fran]

But you're right. With him, I was like, okay. And then I think he gets better as the show goes on.

[Ria]

I think it's also, like, better than we expected because the show was kind of getting crushed before it even came out. Just from, like, the photos of them and people, I think, being upset about the show being made or the way they looked or all these different things. So in the sense of that, it's like, well, I'm enjoying watching. And I think once we get past, like, once we get more of them, it will be better too, because these early episodes was a lot of Jackie.

[Fran]

The third one was all about Jackie.

[Ria]

Yeah. Which is fair because it's, of course, it's a big part of the story, you know, Jackie, Kenny Nunhez's passing. But it was maybe Naomi Watts's worst performance, I think.

[Fran]

I couldn't. I. I couldn't watch. I had to fast forward her parts in the third episode. I was like, get me through this. Like, I'm sorry, this sounds terrible, but I was like, oh, God. Yeah. But I'm enjoying watching the two main characters because I just think that they have a lot of chemistry. Yep. So, yeah, that is everything I watched.

[Ria]

I'll say nothing. No. Catch up on our All Stars.

[Fran]

No. Fuck.

[Ria]

I'm dying for you to watch All Stars. I will watch, but the season's gonna be over.

[Fran]

I'll catch up. I got time.

[Ria]

The season's gonna be over.

[Fran]

I watched, like, two episodes, so I feel like I can't really.

[Ria]

Well, I'll talk about All Stars for a second because I think everyone that is. That is caught up is maybe feeling the same things that I'm feeling where the train is off the tracks. This, like, Belle Lucinda. Everybody doesn't like Lucinda situation has just gone on for too long. It really doesn't have anything to do with the couples to Be honest. Like, it has nothing to do with any of their relationships. It's just the drama in the villa that. A lot. Not a lot, but some of the girls feel like they really can't be around Lucinda at all. There's this back and forth of, like, is this really who Lucinda is, or is it more, like manipulative and calculated? Like, she's more calculated. What word am I trying to say?

[Fran]

Calculated.

[Ria]

She's calculated. Yes.

[Fran]

Calculated.

[Ria]

Yeah, Calculated.

[Fran]

I think that's it.

[Ria]

That is. That's what I'm trying to say. They think she's more calculated than she's leading on to be. That this whole, like, baby voice, play dumb thing is, like, a manipulation tactic, basically. And she's kind of like, it's just me. Like, I'm kind of just a little bit of a weirdo. I don't know what to tell you guys. Like, now you're just attacking my character. All these things. And at first I was kind of like, okay, Lucinda has been driving me a little crazy. It's tough to watch. But Belle has gone so hard on her that now it's, like, hard to watch that, you know, when it's. You know, when things turn.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Ria]

And you're like, belle, you had us and you lost us.

[Fran]

Because you don't want to fight mean girl with mean girl. You know what I mean? Like, it's.

[Ria]

And that's, like, what it's. It's turned into.

[Fran]

You almost want to do, like, the killing with kindness, where it's like, whenever you take that step further, then you almost become the one in the wrong.

[Ria]

Yeah. And whether or not Lucinda is, like, being sneaky with how she's doing it, what they've been saying is Lucinda loves to rage, bait people, which I kind of do think she does like. But I don't really know if, deep down, if it's, like, malicious intent. I think she's on tv, and I think she likes to be on tv. I think she likes to stir the pot a little bit, but not in her mind. It's not that deep. Like, in her mind, she's like, we're on tv. I'm stirring the pot a little bit, like, creating drama, whatever. For the other girls, they're like, you're a terrible person.

[Fran]

We hate you.

[Ria]

And it's just, like, became too much. Belle's constantly yelling at them, and, I mean, Shawn continues.

[Fran]

It was good tv.

[Ria]

It was. But now it's not.

[Fran]

Like, I was just, like, annoying.

[Ria]

It was for a few episodes, for sure, where you were like, oh, the girls are popping off constantly, but I think we're on maybe episodes, like, where they're bringing up the same fights, they're bringing up the same arguments, the same drama, and now it's getting kind of tired because they're just yelling at each other in a. In just, like a mean way. And I think Bell had a lot more on her side, and now she's just really lashing into her. And you're like, okay, now this is like, Bell. I still. I think, still thinks she's on her season where. Where, like the early Levi and UK seasons. My God, would they yell at each other? Oh, yeah, my God. But that hasn't really been the case as of more recent seasons, and she's stuck where it's just, like, popping off all the time at them. And it's. It's just gotten to be too much, in my opinion. We've. It was good. It was okay drama for a few episodes, but now this situation needs to be remedied. They got to move on. They either need to, like, stop talking or just figure out other things because there are, like, other relationship drama that's going on, but it gets overshadowed every time because Belle just starts yelling at Lucinda and Shawn and it's just like, okay, now this has just been going on for too long. They can't have any other conversations about any of the other couples or what else is going on, or, like, some of the new people are starting to make moves or maybe looking at other people. But that drama's just. It's just taken over. It's got to be too much. It's got end. I don't know if they need a vote or something, and I'm not up to date on the UK time, so maybe something happened like this weekend that I haven't seen yet, but they gotta. They gotta get themselves together. I do think. I think. And this is. Whatever. I'm sorry if I'm. I. I saw some things on social media that people were joking that they thought, like, production had to get involved. Like, they were, like, production had to, like, get involved and tell everyone to fucking get themselves sorted. Like, just figure it out. So we'll see what happens there. But it is good. I mean, I think I'll give, like, this last week of episodes, like, a B plus. It's good, but the. The fighting has just gotten a little too repetitive for me. And, like, they're just being nasty. It's.

[Fran]

Sorry.

[Ria]

It's like, at certain points, good tv and then it just turns and then you're like, this is just straight up nasty behavior now. And traitors. I'll give an A. Tell me lies. I'll give an A. Honestly, I thought that episode was really good. And Love Story, I will give. Give it a B minus. I like it. And I'm gonna keep watching, but definitely not, like, blown away.

[Fran]

Yeah. And I think. I feel like you do kind of have to just watch it in the way of, like, this isn't really. This is a ray.

[Ria]

Which is hard to do.

[Fran]

It is very hard to do. Because you're googling every five seconds. Yeah, no, exactly, but because you have no idea if what is being shown is the real event.

[Ria]

Yeah. I had a conversation with Joe. Like, we were watching it together, and episode one, they're getting on the plane, and I was like, wow, we're starting with this. And Joe was like, what? And I was like, you don't really know anything about jfk.

[Guest]

Yeah, I had the same.

[Ria]

You don't know anything about JFK Jr. Do you? And he was like, honestly, no. I was like, well, maybe don't Google it then.

[Fran]

Like, hey, don't. Don't get it spoiled for you.

[Guest]

No. I saw a lot of people online saying the same thing because I had, like, done a deep dive on this, like, however long ago, just out of, like, curiosity. So I feel like I knew what was. I know a lot about JFK Jr. Weirdly.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Guest]

But. But I saw a lot of people online just watching it as if it was just like a Tell me Lies type show. Being like, wait, they. They really crashed the plane.

[Fran]

Like, I also feel like being like, you guys both go to the Cape or Martha's Vineyard. Like, I feel like you probably know a lot about that. Like. No, because that's where. His vineyard.

[Guest]

Yeah. Just something about him being JFK's son is, like, so interesting to me.

[Fran]

Right. And he just grew up always in the spotlight, even though his dad. Yep. You know, happened when he was three. Yeah. That is the fascination 100%.

[Ria]

But I'm definitely gonna keep watching. I'm enjoying it. I'm not. I'm not caught up on the beauty, but I did watch episode.

[Fran]

Five, I think.

[Guest]

I think. Oh, no, that would have been four then, if you. If you're not caught up.

[Ria]

Okay, so then I watch episode four. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because it's the one you watched last week. Because what's her face we were talking about.

[Guest]

You're right. That was. You would. This is gonna be seven this week. So you would have been. That would have been five then.

[Ria]

Okay, so I watched four and five.

[Guest]

Yeah.

[Ria]

I'm still really enjoying. I'll give a B plus. I think it's really good. I'm really liking it. I don't want to give, like, too much away, but I am. I'm definitely enjoying it. I don't see too many people talking about it.

[Guest]

Yeah. I don't really see, like, people online.

[Ria]

Yeah. But I am very much enjoying it. I think it's like, this is, to me, Ryan Murphy's like bread and butter. I know.

[Guest]

This guy. Have any time?

[Ria]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Seriously. Joe and I finished ponies, which I really liked. Cliffhanger at the end. I hope they make a second season.

[Fran]

My God.

[Ria]

It ended on the biggest cliffhanger of all time, so I thought that was good. There's a couple episodes that I was like, meh on, but overall, I enjoyed. The show is definitely better in, like, the last two or three episodes. I'm excited to see what else is happening. I think. I think they gotta do a second season with the way, like, so many other storylines that just did not. Did not wrap up. I'll give that a B. I liked it. Picture this. It's Monday morning. It is actually. Currently, you know, it's Monday morning. You open your laptop, Outlook hits you with 87 unread emails. Ugh. Your calendar looks like a game of Tetris. Your boss wants a report, your team wants a presentation, and all you want to do is take a nice nap. Enter Microsoft Copilot. Copilot summarizes your emails. So, boom, you're all caught up. No worries. It'll draft your report in Word, it builds your slides in PowerPoint. It even pulls insights from your Excel data. Suddenly, you're the office hero. You're organized, responsible, even promotable. All because Copilot did the stuff that you didn't want to. So if you want to reclaim your time and get your life together, try Microsoft Copilot. Copilot. Because sometimes the smartest move is letting AI do the work. Learn more at Microsoft.com M365 copilot Summer House. We didn't talk about Summer House.

[Fran]

Oh, yes.

[Ria]

Summer House. Summer House episode two came out, and my God, I can't think of one. Like, what? What did they do?

[Fran]

It was when Kyle was complaining to the guys about how Amanda.

[Ria]

Amanda smokes too much weed.

[Fran]

Smokes too much weed in her apartment's driving.

[Ria]

Yeah, right, right, right, right, right.

[Fran]

And then Amanda catches them, and then they have the dinner and Ciara.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Fran]

Which they were making a euphoria Joke. Because Ciara was like, is this fucking speech about you? And then Mando was like this fucking play about us, which was a euphoria joke. And Kyle flipped out, obviously. I'm sorry. I. Like, I don't have one piece of me that feels bad for Kyle ever. Like, I don't care if Amanda is smoking weed and has the apartment a mess, because it's probably to deal with you, you know what I mean? Like, she's probably just trying to drown out you. Okay? Like, I. And it was funny. The next day, Amanda put on her story like a. It was like a meme. And it was like my coping mechanism. And it was like a joint. And it was like, like, shut the fuck up. You're never. By the way, you said yourself that you have been home for one weekend from January to June.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Fran]

So how do you expect Amanda to give. She lives alone basically about you or what? Like, I just. I don't have an ounce that feels bad for him. I really don't.

[Ria]

I also just don't like the game of like, oh, everyone's talking about things that I do wrong. Let's talk about things Amanda does wrong.

[Fran]

And also, by the way, like, guy conversation on tv. Like Wes being like, when do you. Yeah, right, right, right. I'm sorry.

[Ria]

You're taught, like, so fair. But I'll be honest, I was also wondering.

[Fran]

No, obviously a question you. Like, when a couple is like fighting like that, you're like, all right, are.

[Ria]

You guys having sex?

[Fran]

Are you guys having sex or what? But Amanda is standing right.

[Ria]

No, she's right there for sure.

[Fran]

And he's like, so when do you guys fuck? And Kyle's like, well, she. She smokes weed every night. Like, first of all, that doesn't make you just automatically not have sex. By the way. Like, smoking weed does not equal. Doesn't have sex. So that it's just like, was it cop out?

[Ria]

Kyle has like such a, like, narc grandpa view of like smoking weed.

[Fran]

Yeah. He's like, oh, she smokes weed so we don't have sex. Like, that was a cop out answer. Like, maybe she doesn't want to be intimate with you, pothead. Yeah, like, I don't know, maybe she doesn't want to be intimate with you because you don't show her any kind of love in any other way. So why would she want to be intimate with you? Like, I don't know. Obviously it's a question you ask. Cause you're like, are you guys even doing it? Like, what? You know what's your right. What's your love life like? And all that.

[Ria]

I'm very interested to see, like, kind of what other storylines appear from this season. Cause right now it is very Kyle and Amanda focused. And I think it's probably gonna stay very Kyle and Amanda focused, of course. But there's so many other people in the house. Like, I just think it's gonna be a little overkill if it's, like, just so hard on Kyle and Amanda every episode. But we'll see.

[Fran]

I don't know. Just, I. I don't feel bad for that man at all. Like, I just. It's like he asks questions and he's like, I don't know why she's acting like this. And it's like, what do you mean? You don't know why we even know why she's acting like this? You know?

[Ria]

Yeah. And it's like.

[Fran]

Yeah, it's very apparent. There's tension.

[Ria]

Yeah. Just at the end of the day, they just don't like it. Like, they just like each other.

[Fran]

They're a married couple. And, like, neither of them have said. The entire week, neither of them have said to each other, like, let's talk about what happened. Even if Kyle. Like, it should be on Kyle, obviously, to apologize to Amanda. But, like, you're a married couple. You don't just say to him, hey, what the fuck was that? You know, you don't just, like, bring it up. Like, I don't understand their kid. They. They lack communication.

[Ria]

Yeah. It's all areas. And I think they do save stuff for tv. Like, it seems like they save stuff for when they're filming, but it makes no sense, which is weird to me.

[Fran]

I'm just like, you guys are married. You don't speak to each other.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Fran]

Yeah. Now I guess it makes sense there. It's. That's.

[Ria]

It's like, that's. It just really comes to show. Goes to show. I think they got. They hit the point where, like, yeah, they still have love for each other, but they don't like each other.

[Fran]

No.

[Ria]

You know?

[Fran]

No, they're not in love with each other.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Guest]

Yeah.

[Ria]

You know, But I'll give this episode.

[Fran]

A B. Yeah, I'll give it a B as well.

[Ria]

I watched all of up to episode five of the Night and the Seven Kingdoms. The Night of the Seven Kingdoms.

[Guest]

Night of the Seven Kingdoms.

[Ria]

The Night of the Seven Kingdoms. I keep fucking up the name. Every time I put it on, I'm like, seven knights, Whatever.

[Guest]

Kingdoms, whatever.

[Fran]

Same death.

[Ria]

The Night of the Seven Kingdoms. Fantastic show. One of the better products from HBO in a while, I think. And it's a. It's a miniseries. It's really short. It's only six episodes, but it is a Game of Thrones in the Game of thrones world. George R.R. martin novella about Sir Dunk and Egg. And it's so good. Episode five was such a great episode where I was, like, on the edge of my seat, so captivated, but also at that old school Game of Thrones gore where I was, like, almost throwing up. Like, I was like. Like, it was borderline disgusting. Like, people getting fucking swords in their eyeballs. Like, just like. Like, oh, my over the top gore. But it was such a good episode. They covered so much in that 40 minutes. I know you're watching 42.

[Guest]

It's like 30, which is like, people are upset, but I kind of see both sides of it.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Guest]

Like.

[Ria]

Well, because there's not much to the story, I don't think, but people think.

[Guest]

That there's gonna be another season. Like, I don't know.

[Fran]

Oh, really?

[Guest]

Yeah.

[Ria]

To be honest, I don't know how much. Like, I don't know how much source material they have.

[Guest]

I don't think they'd have that much. Yeah, that's the thing.

[Ria]

So it's like, maybe they. They have to turn into something else. But this episode five had a little bit of, like, Dunk's background and the current fight, and my God, my jaw dropped at the end of that episode.

[Guest]

Here's the thing. I got it. I wouldn't say spoiled because it's like, these were books.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Guest]

But I, like. Because after episode four, I was obsessed with it. So it was my whole thing. So then I knew what was gonna happen.

[Ria]

So people know about the lineage and who died.

[Guest]

Everyone knew who was gonna die in that episode before it happened.

[Ria]

Not me.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Guest]

Which, like, didn't really ruin it for me. I. It would have been more of a shock. But yeah, especially even, like, the end of episode four for me was like, maybe the peak of this. So.

[Ria]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Guest]

That speech that he gave. And like, yeah, this is. Yeah, I would agree. Like, it's one of the better shows.

[Ria]

Yeah, it's really good. And like, the Solid Age.

[Guest]

So good.

[Ria]

He's so good. I. He is so precious. When he screamed wait. At the top of his songs. Oh, my gosh. Oh, my God, this guy. This little kid's a fantastic actor.

[Guest]

And I don't know actually know their names off the top of my head, both of them, but they seem like they're like, best Buddies now.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Guest]

Which is funny.

[Ria]

Really cute. I'm. He's. It's a great show. It's very much an.

[Fran]

A. Very, very good.

[Ria]

Very, very good. And then I went to go see Wuthering Heights Gia and I saw it Thursday night. And I'll be honest, I'm a little nervous to say how I feel about this movie because we're getting some crazy discourse over this film, and I think we kind of anticipated that happening, but it's gone to, like, the nth degree that I'm just having a hard time wrapping my brain around a lot of the conversations. But I never read the book. I know the story loosely, but I'm not so in deep with the book and staying loyal to the book and all these things. And I also felt like all the signs were there that this wasn't gonna be the book. They couldn't have said it more, to be honest. Really not gonna be the. Hey, it's not gonna be like, it's not gonna be. It's her, all these things. And all these people are very upset about the choices that were made and the decisions of where the story went. I guess in this adaptation, I thought maybe she would have been better off just not naming it Wuthering Heights.

[Fran]

Right. I think maybe putting it in quotes wasn't. Wasn't enough.

[Ria]

Right. Like, I think using the title probably couldn't. She maybe could have named it something else and said, oh, these characters are loosely based on Wuthering Heights, on the story from Wuthering Heights. But in all honesty, like, I enjoyed the movie. Like, I can't say I went in. I'm seeing comments. People being like, my theater was laughing. It was a joke. How bad it was. All time bad movie.

[Guest]

Keep seeing. Boring is, like, the most common.

[Ria]

I didn't think that either. I didn't. So maybe a little bit in the second half. But the young people, the young versions of themselves were so good, by the way, the kid from adolescence, so good.

[Fran]

He's in this Ellen paper.

[Guest]

I did see a scene, and I was like, was that him?

[Ria]

Yeah. He's so good. And then I also left the theater being like, wow, great performances from Margot and Jacob. And every. I don't know, every little thing's getting torn apart because it's not. I think people are mad at the love story and quote, unquote, wattpad version of what she turned this into. When deep down, the book has so many more serious, real turn, like, real conversations and real issues that are addressed and face in the book that aren't the romance.

[Fran]

Mm.

[Ria]

And this movie is very heavily romance, so I get that. And I saw the people. Look, when I saw this movie was coming out on Valentine's Day, I knew this isn't gonna be the movie for me. Cuz it's like, obviously this is not the story, not how I interpret it, Wuthering Heights, all these things. But because I am not super familiar with the book and I don't have a dying loyalty to the book, like what appears so many people have. I enjoyed the movie. I thought they were both great. Gia sobbed her eyes out at the end. It was funny because my TikTok went back from people being like walking out of the theater sobbing, being like, oh my God. And then people being like, that was a fucking joke. I hated it so much. So it's crazy. It's just. It's all over the place. But I don't know, I looked at Gia, I was like, I mean, you. You knew it wasn't a happy ending. And she was like, I don't know. I thought maybe she changed it because like, also at the end of the day, they're bad people. Like, you're not rooting for either of them personally, which I think is a big part of it. They're hot people having these hot romantic moments that you're like, oh, the fiery love that they have. But deep down, they're bad people. Like, they're. They're not morally good people. But it's so romance heavy. And it does get a little slower in the second half, I will say, because it just culminates in obviously a not great ending, but not anything shocking, in my opinion.

[Guest]

But see, I didn't know. I knew nothing about it. So.

[Ria]

Yeah, it's like if you loosely know what happens. I think most people, maybe I'm speaking out of turn, but I think most people know Wuthering Heights doesn't have like a happy ending. Whether that means like if they end up together or death or fight, whatever. Whatever. But I feel like most people have the understanding of like, oh, they know that Kathy and Heathcliff's story isn't like they run away and they live happily ever after.

[Fran]

They don't even kiss in the book.

[Ria]

Yeah, it's not really.

[Fran]

So it's really like. Right. Which is why Margot Robbie was like, we're changing that.

[Ria]

They turn this into this like, smut heavy romance, which people didn't like. And I. I can. I can understand that because she's full on. Like they're hooking up, you know, they're Hooking up. So I would probably end up giving it. I think I'd end up giving it a B. Like, I really was not.

[Guest]

The dumbest question of all time.

[Ria]

I'm ruined by it.

[Guest]

I was gonna say, well, what is the author? What do you think the author thinks? And then I realized that this book was written in 1847.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Ria]

Which is also why people are like, the source material is old, and there's been different interpretations of it and different adaptations of it. Movies of about. Of the story have been made in the past, and some people like different things. And I really. At the end of the day, maybe her biggest mistake was calling it Wuthering Heights.

[Fran]

Seems like it.

[Ria]

She could have just called us something else and was like, I was inspired by Kathy and Heathcliff. And honestly, it's a romance from that era.

[Fran]

Could have even changed the names.

[Ria]

Yeah, they could.

[Fran]

You know what I mean?

[Ria]

Like, could have had different names.

[Guest]

Why not just write a different story in that time?

[Ria]

I'll be honest, guys. Like, Jacob Elordi is drenched for a majority of this movie. My God, the man was walking in the rain the entire movie. Like, he is soaking wet the whole movie. And there were some collective. And, look, I'm just a girl. Sorry. But, like, there's collective moments where I felt the entire theater went like, he.

[Guest]

What percent of the theater were just women?

[Ria]

It was pretty split. There was actually a good amount of guys. Yeah, it was like Valentine's Day weekend.

[Fran]

I don't know. Yeah, that's true.

[Ria]

Thursday night. But there's just some moments. There's a moment that he picks her up by her corset, like, the center of her corset, with one hand, and just, like, lifts her off the ground. And. And you just go, oh. Oh, my. Oh, my goodness. But, yeah, and look, that. That's the movie she made. I don't know. People are very upset about it, but it's a big A B movie in my mind, for me, at least.

[Fran]

And, yeah, you're allowed to enjoy the movie.

[Ria]

Well, Gia literally asked me. She was making a TikTok effort. She's like, am I gonna get canceled for saying I liked Wuthering Heights? I said, I don't know, man. I don't. I don't know. I don't know. So it is what it is. But that's. It's obviously very different from what the book is, and people were mad about that for a plethora of reasons. But I went into the movie not being a book person. I don't know. The book. So that's. This is the only opinion I know how to have.

[Fran]

I guess it seems to be a.

[Guest]

Common theme, adaptations, like, not being so accurate. Like the housemaid. And like, I guess the housemaid wasn't really. They didn't change much. They just left a lot out, it seems.

[Fran]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Ria]

I think leaving stuff out is very different than changing things.

[Fran]

Like, changing the whole story, basically.

[Ria]

Yeah. Like, a lot was changed in this.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Ria]

So I get it.

[Fran]

Hence why it was in quotes.

[Ria]

Yeah. Yeah. Maybe could have been something.

[Fran]

She was like, this is Wuthering Heights. I was like, yeah.

[Ria]

Any other heights. Any other heights around? You can rename it to the difference.

[Guest]

Between, like, Lincoln, the movie, and then, like, Abraham Lincoln, Vampire slayer, where it's like, you're taking a lot of liberties.

[Ria]

Certainly taking a lot of liberties.

[Guest]

For sure.

[Ria]

That's everything. I watched.

[Fran]

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[Ria]

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[Guest]

All right, Watch. Tell me Lies. That's an A. I have no idea how they're gonna wrap it up, but, yeah, Wrigley's the only redeeming character at this point.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Guest]

Evan is maybe bottom three now, like, in terms of, like, worst characters.

[Fran]

Yeah. It's hard to rank them. It's hard.

[Ria]

Really is hard.

[Guest]

Yeah. Industry. The last two episodes, I really, like, can't follow this show. I mean, partially just because, like, there's a lot of points where I'm not that interested. But. But it's. It's really. Sometimes you look up, like, I check my phone, and I'm like, we got Kit Harrington in, like, a gay, like, sex orgy. Like, I don't know, like, what's going on?

[Fran]

Maybe if you were not looking at your phone.

[Guest]

But the thing is, it's like these things. Like, I don't like.

[Fran]

He goes. I look up from my phone. All of a sudden, this is happening.

[Ria]

It's like, maybe. You know why he was in the words.

[Guest]

Part of the. What I'm saying is, like, a lot of the show kind of seems like they're just doing things for The. What's the word I'm looking for? Shock value. Where it's like. Yeah, like, it's crazy, but, like, what is. What is happening in this show? I don't even know. Like, it's supposed to be more about, like, investing and all that, but they're straying away. I don't know.

[Fran]

It's.

[Guest]

I'll give it a B minus. The beauty. I'll give it a B plus. I'll say, like, Ashton Kutcher in this last episode. Like, I'm buying in a little more. Like, he was kind of, like, the weak part of the show for me, but I can kind of see it a little more, and it's interesting to see, like, his whole backstory. Night of Seven Kingdoms. Yeah, I'll give that an A because that gets really good.

[Ria]

Episode five, honestly, probably even maybe A. Yeah.

[Guest]

And episode four, I literally was, like, cheering from my couch and then played. I watched that episode multiple times, everyone. And it's great. It will suck if that's. If this is it.

[Ria]

Yeah. Yeah. But sometimes it's like, when you get something that's so good, you get six episodes. Something that's so good, it's like, no, it's not.

[Fran]

Do you need to like it?

[Guest]

Yeah. Don't drag it out. Yeah. That shows amazing. The traitors. I'll give an A minus. Like, at this point, I think the only way it'll get up to an A for me is if Rob is. Loses because.

[Fran]

Oh, you're not rooting for him.

[Guest]

No, because I just, like, it's not. Well.

[Fran]

Well, no.

[Ria]

Hates pretty men.

[Guest]

No, I don't. The thing is, it's like, if he was the underdog, I'd be rooting for him. But it's just, like, the fact that.

[Fran]

It'S a lot to win.

[Ria]

So fair.

[Guest]

Everyone's rooting for him to win. It's like, that's not fun.

[Ria]

No. I totally see both sides of the argument, to be honest. It's like he's just going to cruise.

[Fran]

Through this whole thing and wait.

[Guest]

The whole thing. And it's like, everyone's just rooting for him.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Guest]

Everyone wants him to win. Someone's got to, like, I don't know who I'm rooting for. And I don't think.

[Ria]

I think even the Fables want him to win.

[Guest]

And I don't even think.

[Fran]

Really.

[Guest]

I don't even think there is. Like, I can't think of someone who could actually win.

[Ria]

No. Even Dorinda's like, I hope he wins.

[Guest]

But it would be like, imagine Mora, like, last second, just, like, called him out and sent him. Like, that would never happen because she's just blinded by him. But I'll give that an A minus. The pit.

[Ria]

I'm behind the pit.

[Guest]

I'll give this an A minus. It was, like, close to an A. Very sad. Like, obviously, like, every episode kind of is, but this one especially, like, she.

[Ria]

Said she sobbed in this episode.

[Guest]

Yeah. Like, yeah, it's like some sad people dying, but just a great show. JFK Jr. I'll give a B minus, mainly because I'm interested in JFK and that aspect of it, but I really think it's more of, like, a C in my mind. I was shocked to see the online rhetoric about it being like, this show is incredible.

[Fran]

Like, oh, I saw quite the.

[Guest]

Everything I saw was like, I. Like, we need, like, a hundred seasons.

[Fran]

Oh, my God. Quite the opposite. I saw, like, I. I felt like an idiot for liking the show.

[Guest]

I felt like an idiot for not.

[Fran]

Like, oh, everything that I saw was.

[Ria]

Like, guys, what a good testament to. For you, Page, how social media works these days and how you're just fed.

[Guest]

But they're fears.

[Fran]

You're fed things that make you feel like an idiot for liking something because I.

[Ria]

And they don't let you form your own opinion.

[Fran]

Oh, but I liked it. And every video I saw was like, this is so horrible they're doing. You know, and obviously it is a tragic story. So, like, I understand people being upset that it. If it's, you know, Ryan Murphy, he's making another. You know, people are upset in the first place that they're making this.

[Ria]

And what. It's. It's. Everyone's issue with him is, like, profiting off of people's trauma and people's. You know, and it is.

[Fran]

It's a tragedy what happened. So there was a lot of conversation about that.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Fran]

But the two actors have great chemistry, so I was like, I. I, like, she's really good.

[Guest]

Not, like, in terms of. I don't know if she's, like, portraying her acting.

[Ria]

Well, we don't really know, but, like.

[Guest]

That doesn't really matter to me. Like.

[Ria]

No, she's just a good actress.

[Guest]

Going to the show, I knew it was gonna be, like, dramatized, and I. I just. Something about him, I'm like. Like, not buying. Like, he. I don't know. He does. I don't think he's.

[Ria]

I struggled with it.

[Fran]

Like, one of his first roles. Yeah, he's getting his footing.

[Ria]

Yeah, exactly.

[Guest]

But it's like, would I rather Have a guy who's a really good actor who doesn't look like JFK Jr. Or a guy who's looks exactly like him, but it isn't really like a great actor.

[Ria]

I don't know. I'd rather have the first. I don't know if he would though, because I could hear his critique. I could be like, the guy's good, but, you know, he really doesn't look like.

[Guest]

Yeah, but like, I. I don't know. I don't know. I. Does he even looked that much like him?

[Fran]

Pretty. I think he does. I think that they both look like them. And I think Daryl Hannah looks like her too. Whoever's.

[Ria]

But I think the, the models she was dating looks just like that guy.

[Fran]

I know, I know. I think that the, the casting look wise has been pretty spot on. Yeah.

[Guest]

I do love it just like you said too. But like, just a New York show, like set in the city.

[Fran]

Yeah. That's why I think I was like, really into it because I'm like, oh, they're in New York.

[Ria]

Totally.

[Fran]

Also at the same time, like, we're not watching this for like the best acting of all time. You know what I mean?

[Guest]

No, no. I think that, like, I. Going into it, I knew it was going to be like corny because there are points where I'm like, oh, okay, like the writing and stuff. But yeah, give it to me. Minus. I'll continue to watch. I watch. Existing on the Will Arnett Bradley Cooper directed movie. It was good. Like, it was kind of what I expected. You just have to suspend your belief a little bit because it's so ridiculous. Kind of like the premise that he's just like this recently divorced guy, he's basically walking by the comedy Cellar and just like walks, stumbles in, goes up at the comedy Cellar and then it's just like going up. Like, that would never happen. But like, he, he, he was good. Will Arnett was good. It was fine. I'll give it a B. I watched the first episode of that show Neighbors on hbo.

[Ria]

Oh, yeah.

[Guest]

About Neighbors, like feuding.

[Ria]

Yeah. Oh, I didn't know what it was about. I thought it was like, I thought they made a TV show out of the movie.

[Fran]

You know what?

[Guest]

I didn't know either.

[Fran]

And I just.

[Guest]

Efron movie. Yeah.

[Ria]

I was like, in my mind, oh, wow. They made a TV show out of the movie Neighbors. I kept seeing it, thinking it's gonna be about frat guys.

[Fran]

I thought that they just put Neighbors on hbo. Yeah.

[Guest]

Marketing. Yeah.

[Fran]

I was like, wow, people a Lot of people are watching Neighbors.

[Ria]

They do that on Netflix all the time, getting an old movie.

[Fran]

When they put the top and you're like, wait, a lot of people are watching Neighbors?

[Guest]

Yeah. No, it's like a shot as kind of like a documentary type, and it's like, real people with real problems. I don't know how they, like, found these people.

[Fran]

Is it good?

[Guest]

It's interesting.

[Fran]

I'm, like, really interested now.

[Guest]

It is interesting.

[Ria]

It's about neighbors, like, fighting.

[Guest]

Yeah. Like, they find, like.

[Ria]

It's like your leaves are falling on my side of the lawn.

[Guest]

That's basically what it is. Which I'm kind of curious. Like, how do they find these people and start filming? Like. Like, how do they apply for, Like, I don't know how to do it Right.

[Ria]

There's a casting that's like, if you have a problem with your neighbor, please call. I need number.

[Guest]

Yeah. No, you probably like it. There's, like, a few different. Like, they have, like, a few different stories going on at once, so it's like. But yeah, it's kind of crazy.

[Ria]

Interesting.

[Fran]

Wow. I am watching this when I get home. I don't know why I'm so interested. I feel like just, like, a bunch of characters on there.

[Guest]

Oh, they're definitely, like, characters.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Guest]

But I'll give it a B minus. Like, it's. It's funny and it's. It makes you feel, like, not. I mean, not that I've ever had a feud with a neighbor, but it's like, this is just what happens. No, it's about, like, things that.

[Fran]

I've never had a feud with a neighbor either, but it's almost something you fantasize about.

[Guest]

And there's, like, one of the storylines.

[Ria]

And like I said, there's so many, like, there's so many stereotypical fights.

[Fran]

Yeah. Cliches.

[Ria]

Yeah. Like, the leaves of my lawn. You're cutting your grass, your fence.

[Fran]

Yeah. You grow up thinking, like, am I gonna be, like, fighting with my neighborhood?

[Ria]

Snow into my yard?

[Guest]

The main one is, like, this guy who just happens.

[Fran]

Don't spoil it. No, it's not a spoiler.

[Guest]

He's, like, huge on TikTok. He has over 2 million followers on TikTok. This older, like, dad guy, and he, like, moved into this huge, like, empty field. So, like, across the field, there's another neighbor, like, that's his neighbor, and he put up, like, a fence when he moved in, which, like, blocks the road. So this other guy has a bunch of horses. And I guess the horses can't, like, Just wander free now. So it's all about, like, you take that fence down. Like, it's just hilarious. And he's like, you're saying your 2 million TikTok followers, they're harassing our family. Like, it's pretty interesting.

[Ria]

I want, like.

[Guest]

Like, no, there's other ones too. About, like, this is a private property. Like, you can't go on our beach. Like, there's one where that's like.

[Fran]

So it's like. Is it, like, really rich people?

[Guest]

No, not at all.

[Fran]

Oh, okay.

[Guest]

They're not rich.

[Fran]

Okay. Because I want, like, classic.

[Guest]

No, no, trust me, these are not.

[Fran]

I want, like, middle class drama.

[Guest]

It is. Okay, so I'll give that a B minus. I watched the first two episodes of Landman. Just. I don't know.

[Ria]

Yeah, I've heard.

[Fran]

I've heard.

[Guest]

Mixed review. I think I heard that season one's, like, better than. And then it goes downhill. It's good. It's, like, very dramatic and. But it's interesting, like, in terms I don't really know much about, like, the oil industry and all that. And. Yeah, so I'll give that a B minus. What's her name? Michelle.

[Ria]

Michelle Randolph.

[Guest]

She's fan of her.

[Fran]

Yeah. Obviously. Shocking.

[Guest]

And then I watched song Sung Blue last night, finally.

[Ria]

Oh, right, because you never saw it.

[Guest]

I never saw it.

[Fran]

Oh, he's gonna hate it.

[Guest]

I'm not gonna say. Look at him.

[Fran]

Look at him.

[Guest]

No, I'm not gonna say that I hate it at all. Of course. Because we had Kate Hudson here and it was great. Okay.

[Fran]

You could be honest about your feelings.

[Guest]

I don't know. I definitely didn't hate it. I didn't go into it thinking I was gonna love it. I'm not a one. I'm not a huge Neil diamond guy. Not that that really matters here, because it's not him. I thought the story was interesting. I just. It's just not for me. I think the movie, like, it was kind of. It was wholesome, I guess, but I never.

[Ria]

I guess. I mean, it's also pretty sad.

[Fran]

Yes.

[Guest]

Yeah, it is sad. I thought the singing was great.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Guest]

Great singing.

[Ria]

Nominated for an Academy Award. Yeah, she was.

[Fran]

Yeah, he is. Yeah, she was her.

[Guest]

That poster was right next to my TV when I was watching. But there are some other people that I thought maybe like, would be more deserving. Like, I love Kate Hudson, but, like. And I thought she was really good. I didn't. There was just never a moment where I was like, this is an incredible. Like. Yeah, but I thought it was really good. I thought, like, some of the songs went on for, like, a long time. I was like, wow.

[Ria]

They did. They did.

[Guest]

We're just watching a full concert now.

[Fran]

That is true. That is true.

[Guest]

But I'll give it a B minus. Like, just a good movie. I definitely didn't hate it. It's a fun movie and it's not like. Yeah, just parts of it.

[Ria]

Yeah, yeah, no, the music and the fun. There's a lot of uplifting and then you're, you know, then there's. Then just smacks in the face.

[Guest]

And I think they definitely took, like, creative liberties to where, like, I don't think it's just a spoiler, but it's like you're telling me that he died, like, right before he was gonna meet Neil Diamond?

[Ria]

Like, yeah, that was.

[Guest]

Happened that way.

[Ria]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Guest]

And also, like, he was that point where he's like, is he dying on stage for a second, then he's just like, back to singing. But the. When the car. That car hitting her, I was like, did this. I had to look up. I'm like, did that really happen? Yeah. Kind of crazy.

[Ria]

It's a crazy story.

[Fran]

It is a crazy story.

[Ria]

Crazy story.

[Guest]

But, yeah, that's. That's everything I watched, so, I mean.

[Fran]

You know, I'm glad that you watched it.

[Guest]

Yeah, I liked it.

[Fran]

I didn't know it.

[Guest]

I don't want to be like.

[Ria]

I didn't. Honestly. This is how I thought you would feel about it. I didn't think you were gonna hate it. I didn't think you were in love.

[Fran]

It's not like you're like, this is the best movie of all time. It's pretty sad story for sure.

[Guest]

A little weird.

[Fran]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Definitely. Y. All right. That is everything we watched. All right. That wraps up today's episode of Chicks in the Office. Thank you so much for watching and listening. We are headed back on tour next month and we want to see your beautiful faces there. So make sure you go online and check out tickets. We will be announcing guests very soon. We love you guys. We'll talk to you on Wednesday.

[Guest]

Yeah.

[Fran]

Chicks in the office.

[Guest]

Longtime listener, first time caller. Look at the charts. Who does it. The best.

[Fran]

Two chicks getting paid in reality checks.

[Guest]

You can find them at the gym.

[Fran]

It's not even a flex.

[Guest]

Last minute red carpet flew them out on the jet. Yeah, they're who you want to be. They're always on your screen. Two queens and they might be spilling royalty.

[Fran]

A lot of topics that are popping.

[Guest]

Here to get into I know a show that you probably want to listen to.

[Ria]

Turn the heat up Turn the beat.

[Fran]

Up Record the pod made a bag put their feet up the ones that leave no crumbs when they clean up.

[Ria]

Who'S the pod that they all want to meet up? Who turned the heat up?

[Fran]

Turn the beat up Record the pod made a bag put their feet up.

[Guest]

The ones that leave no crumbs when.

[Ria]

They clean up who's the pod that they all want to meet up up.