Summer House Reunion Leak Reaction, Whitney Leavitt Leaving SLOMW + Heather McMahan Interview

Summary

Chicks in the Office Podcast Summary

Episode: Summer House Reunion Leak Reaction, Whitney Leavitt Leaving SLOMW + Heather McMahan Interview
Date: May 4, 2026
Hosts: Ria & Fran (Barstool Sports)
Special Guest: Heather McMahan

---

EPISODE OVERVIEW

This episode is filled with post-vacation catch-ups between Ria and Fran, recaps from their travels, and plenty of laughs as they dish on pop culture’s latest – most notably the Summer House reunion audio leaks, Whitney Leavitt’s exit from Secret Lives of Mormon Wives, major reality TV casting, White Lotus shakeups, and a long-awaited, hilarious interview with comedian/host Heather McMahan. Throughout, listeners get a sense of the hosts' signature blend of pop culture expertise, chaotic travel stories, friendship, and banter.

---

1. VACATION CATCH-UP & TRAVEL TALES

Timestamps: 00:43 – 36:21

Italy Recap: "I have FOMO of your trip" (Fran, 00:55)

• Ria details her family trip to Italy, loaded with food mishaps, wine-fueled nights, and the chaos of vacationing with both sets of parents and in-laws.
• Notable Moments:
  • Michelin star dinner mix-up: accidentally sitting for a 7-course meal post-winery. ("My mom genuinely spits and starts cracking up... seven courses?!" – Ria, 04:59)
  • Wi-Fi chaos: parents in adjacent hotel rooms constantly needing Ria’s tech help. ("Can you help me set up the Wi-Fi?" – Ria, 12:01)
  • Food highlights: special pasta meals, a transformative mortadella-pistachio sandwich, and a note on going for local-hidden spots, not just viral ones.
  • Family nostalgia: Ria’s emotional connection to Sicilian food memories and her mom speaking Italian in Sicily.
• Funny Anecdotes:
  • Group dynamics described as “four kids with us– it is crazy.” (Ria, 12:19)
  • Drunk/hungover rice ball runs; being charged €0.50 for a fork was peak “charged for the vibe" energy.
  • “I have hit my limit. Nothing else to say to you.” (Ria, 16:45)
  • The saga of stolen White Lotus hotel spoons & cups (80:59, 81:34)
• Fran recaps a Key West bachelorette party and commiserates about the ups and downs of group girl trips, car rides, and hangovers dressed as a hot dog.

---

2. POP CULTURE & REALITY TV ROUNDUP

Summer House Reunion Audio Leak

Timestamps: 61:40 – 71:19

• The Leak: Production audio clips from the yet-to-air reunion dropped online, sparking frenzy among Bravo fans.
• Speculation:
  • "Who in their right mind risked their job to get these leaks out?" (Ria, 61:48)
  • Kyle confirms it was someone in production, not glam.
  • Rumor that Jennifer Lawrence was instrumental in identifying the leaker – wild, but unconfirmed.
• Reactions:
  • Both hosts admit to listening (“Sue me, but I gotta listen. If they're out there, I need to listen.” – Ria, 63:22).
  • "Early reports are, man, does it seem like [Amanda] went in with the wrong attitude." (Fran, 64:44)
  • Audio painted Amanda as combative, lacking remorse; West was notably silent.
  • Mia called out Amanda with “so you just want to be Wes’s side chick?” – considered a savage reunion moment.
• Discussion on Reality TV Intentions:
  • On Dara joining for “fame”: “Who’s going on reality TV at this point in time… just to have a good time?” (Ria, 67:16)

Other Major Reality TV & Casting News

Timestamps: 71:20 – 76:41

• Ciara Miller (Summer House) & Maura Higgins (Love Island) to join Dancing with the Stars:
  • "Two of the hottest women to ever be on reality TV on one season... Legitimately this is the hottest season ever." (Ria, 70:53)
  • Fans joke about keeping them away from dance pro Gleb, but Maura wants to be paired with Mark.
• New Hulu unscripted show “Mafia” (“The Mob”) to star a wild cast, including Janice from Sopranos, Joe Gorga, Harry Josie, Chelsea from Selling Sunset, Bruno from DWTS, and others.
• Whitney Leavitt announces she's leaving Secret Lives of Mormon Wives live on stage.
  • Both hosts discuss the rise of musical/theater reality TV and pitch a Young Broadway reality concept.

Celebrity Gossip & Engagements

Timestamps: 84:52 – 90:30

• Zoe Kravitz & Harry Styles engagement confirmed:

  • “She’s been consistently wearing that ring. Silly. Flaunting that ring, knowing she’s walking around with her left hand out.” (Fran, 85:14)
  • Channing Tatum (her ex) sharing sad poems on IG; hosts note his "sad boy stories."
  • Ria: "I've been quoted multiple times now about this engagement... It's Hollywood, babe." (85:29)
  • They debate what happens to celebrity engagement rings post-breakup ("It’s Hollywood, babe. I don’t know what they do." – Fran, 87:59)

• White Lotus Season 3 casting shuffle:

  • Helena Bonham Carter out ("creative differences"), Laura Dern in, with a newly written character just for her ("If you’re Laura Dern, you get your own role." – Fran, 80:23).
  • Ria shares her mom stole several spoons and cappuccino cups from the White Lotus filming hotel.

---

3. WEEKLY WATCH REPORT

Timestamps: 92:01 – 117:13

TV Reviews & Recaps

• Survivor:
  • Ria: "This is a solid ass season. This past episode: A+.” (93:45)
  • Mr. Beast's million-dollar episode twist highly praised.
  • Survivor auction loved.
• Summer House:
  • Graded a B.
  • Ongoing awkwardness between Sierra and West; double dates; Amanda’s strange reactions.
  • “Sabrina’s really throwing herself in the mix more than I would like.” (Fran, 98:43)
  • Lindsay and Carl’s post-breakup tension analyzed (“Their conversations– I wanted to crawl out of my skin.” – Fran, 100:16)
• Other TV:
  • Ria & Fran haven’t watched much else due to travel but are catching up on Survivor, Summer House, The Valley (“just okay” – Fran).
  • Fran: "My For You Page is still edits of Belly and Conrad set to Noah Kahan’s new album." (111:13)
  • Noah is rewatching Mad Men (“A minus, great show.” 115:31)

---

4. INTERVIEW: Heather McMahan

Timestamps: 119:42 – 156:12
An absolute highlight, packed with jokes, honesty, and girl energy.

• The Heather McMahan Cruise:
  • Ria & Fran are joining her next "chicks at sea" cruise; Heather promises non-stop fun: “It’s like sorority rush, girls gone wild, therapy, and electing the first female president, all those feelings.” (Heather, 121:27)
  • Activities from pilates to comedy, drag, and IV drip stations.
  • “My tits were definitely out on the boat last year and they will be out even more this year!” (Heather, 124:08)
  • Advice: book the windowless room–you’ll never be there.
• On Women Producing Events:
  • “It is embarrassing when men try to put together events. Watching my husband plan a golf trip is an out-of-body experience.” (Heather, 127:58)
• On the Masters:
  • “You are not sneaking a phone into Augusta National. They will body slam your ass.” (Heather, 138:20)
  • Jenna Sims' controversial golf attire discussed, with Heather defending her style and commitment.
  • Funny story: Her husband bought 3 Masters leather ottomans ("What the fuck are you going to do with this ottoman?!" – 140:59).
• Career/TV Updates:
  • Heather filming a new special, shopping a scripted Southern comedy to Hulu (“If I was going to be on ‘Leanne’, the show would be called ‘Heather’,” 146:04).
  • Has pitched and sold multiple TV shows; jokes they'll play her failed audition tapes at her funeral (“It's just me, sad, asking ‘do I look fat at this angle?’" – Heather, 150:28)
• On Female Aspirations & Support:
  • Extensive mutual admiration between the hosts and Heather.
  • Fran shares her desire to do more hosting, red carpets, sports media; Ria jokes about wanting an acting comeback.
  • Heather's best advice on name changes: "If you can hold off, hold off – it’s a pain in the ass." (Heather, 136:18)
  • Heather closes with: "I really, truly adore y’all. The world is your oyster.” (Heather, 155:28)

---

5. MEMORABLE MOMENTS & QUOTES

• “Seven courses?! Just totally not what we thought we were signing up for.” (Ria, 04:59)
• "Italy gets an A plus." (Fran, 18:43)
• "Sue me, but I gotta listen. If they're out there, I need to listen." (Ria, 63:22)
• "Two of the hottest women to ever be on reality TV on one season... That's almost unfair." (Ria, 70:53)
• "She’s been consistently wearing that ring. Silly. Flaunting that ring, knowing she’s walking around with her left hand out.” (Fran, 85:14)
• “It's Hollywood, babe.” (Ria, 85:29 & throughout engagement talk)
• "My tits were definitely out on the boat last year and they will be out even more this year!" (Heather, 124:08)
• "It is embarrassing when men try and put together events… Watching my husband put together a golf trip…the attention to detail–but he didn’t know what day his sister’s wedding is!" (Heather, 127:58)
• “If I was going to be on Leanne, the show would be called Heather.” (Heather, 146:04)
• "The gayest thing you’ll ever experience is men at a sporting event. Truly the most homoerotic thing." (Heather, 153:21)
• "I really, truly adore y’all. I think whatever y’all want to do, the world is your oyster.” (Heather, 155:28)

---

6. ADDITIONAL HIGHLIGHTS

• Pop Culture Lightning Round: Met Gala, Kentucky Derby female trainer milestone, travel misadventures, music and TV gripes, celebrity trivia, reality stars’ viral moments.
• Running Joke: Chicks in the Office still not followed by the Jonas Brothers; general Internet FOMO.
• Listener Engagement: The show’s informal, friendly tone and shared pop culture obsession make it feel like a real-time catchup with friends.

---

7. RECOMMENDED SEGMENTS & TIMESTAMPS

• Italy Vacation Folly & Food Memories: 00:43 – 32:00
• Summer House Reunion Leak Analysis: 61:40 – 71:19
• Heather McMahan Interview: 119:42 – 156:12
• Celebrity Engagements & Hollywood Rules: 84:52 – 90:30
• Weekly Watch Report (TV Reviews): 92:01 – 117:13

---

TL;DR

The Chicks are back from vacation, delivering a laugh-packed pop culture download and vacation confessional, with candid takes on Bravo leaks, reality TV casting, and travel chaos. Hilarious interview with Heather McMahan, who promises debauchery and sisterhood at sea on her upcoming cruise and drops both industry real talk and heartfelt encouragement. Italy gets an “A+” – and so does this episode’s vibe.

Transcript

[Fran]

Hey, Chicks in the Office listeners. You can find every episode on Apple podcasts, Spotify or YouTube prime members can listen ad free on Amazon Music.

[Ria]

What if your drive was fueled with more, like, more protection for more time on the road? Shelby Power Nitro plus provides more protection for longer lasting engines. So it helps you keep your engine running like new for whatever drive is ahead. Shelby Power Nitro engine performance that lasts compare to minimum detergent gasoline. With continuous use of Shelby Power Nitro plus and gasoline direct injection engines, actual effects and benefits may vary. See Shell us more protection for more information.

[Fran]

What's up, everyone?

[Ria]

It's Chicks in the Office with Ria and Fran giving you that Friday energy on a Monday. Bongiorno. Oh, ciao, Tutti. How are we doing? We're back.

[Fran]

Great. I'm so excited to be back. I missed you guys. I miss Gabbin. I miss talking. I, like, had FOMO of your trip. I was like, oh, I wish I was with them.

[Ria]

I talked about you a lot.

[Fran]

Ugh, God. You know, there was just certain parts of the trip that I. And you were sending me. Like, you know, the shopping. I was like, fuck. I was like, God, the thing. The damage we would do together over there.

[Ria]

A lot of damage. Wait, I have a video that I need to play for you guys. Oh, okay. But hopefully you can hear it. Cause I never listened to it back.

[Fran]

Okay.

[Ria]

But it just reminded me when I said I was talking about you, that. Hold on, let me. Let me play it. And if it doesn't work, I'll just explain it after

[Fran]

you said, yeah, that was the one.

[Noah]

That was so crazy, that

[Ria]

smile, the guy. James Marsden.

[Fran]

Yeah, right. Paradise is very good.

[Ria]

You couldn't hear the beginning when he said, he goes, he's got a great smile, that guy. He goes, that's a guy Fran went crazy over. Right. So good looking in person. I literally started recording it at dinner. I'm like, oh, I have to remember this moment that we literally. My dad randomly brings up James Mar. James Marsden. I'm like, am I with Noah and Fran right now?

[Fran]

I'll tell you, I. I also love to bring up James Marsden in random conversations.

[Ria]

Well, last night in Italy, we're looking at Mount Aetna. James Morrison.

[Fran]

You know, that guy's got a real great smile. Yeah.

[Ria]

He was like, fran went crazy over him.

[Fran]

Right? You're right, Mike. I did. Yeah.

[Ria]

Oh, my gosh.

[Noah]

I was saying your dad needs a podcast because even when you posted that Zoe Harry video and you hear your dad be like, they're engaged, like, no, there's.

[Ria]

It's so funny, let me tell you. There were so many funny moments this trip that really just like, just non stop giggles. I wish I took a video of my mom. We ended up. And let me just say, like, we are just not Michelin star restaurant people. We're not. We've. I've tried it once before in France and I was like, this is a six hour thing. Course after course, they're minuscule bites.

[Fran]

Yeah. You have to know what you're signing up for.

[Ria]

You have to know what you're signing up for. And we accidentally got involved in one

[Fran]

and it was in Florence.

[Ria]

In Florence, yeah. So we accidentally fell into this because we booked the restaurant at the hotel for the night that we went to the winery because we were like, oh, we'll just come back, we'll probably be like a little bit tipsy and we'll probably just want to like eat at the hotel. None of us, for whatever reason looked up what the restaurant at the hotel like was and it ended up being like a Michelin star thing. And we had eaten some pizza when we got back and this was like,

[Fran]

it was a full, you know, eight course.

[Ria]

Yes. And. But we had gone back from the winery. We were all a little bit drunk. Yeah, the, the psalm at the winery suggested this place to go to. He said it was the best pizza in Florence. It was the by far the worst meal we've ever had. Not even just there, but like in general, like it was crazy. Every other. By the way, the food obviously spectacular. It's so good. It's spectacular. This was not only one of the worst meals, it just was so bad. So we go back to the hotel and we just wanted to get a cocktail like before bed and because it had been a long day, so we were kind of like wrapping up early. But the restaurant people spot us, the six of us, and they're like, you guys canceled your reservation. Cuz we had can't. We made the reservation, then we canceled. I got the whole thing. And they're like, well now you're here, we're going to charge you for canc. And we were like, oh my God. No, no, we, we'll just come in, we'll just, we'll just eat again. So we sit down.

[Fran]

Oh my God, that's so.

[Ria]

Yeah. Rude. So. So. And they had told us it was fine when we did cancel the whole thing, but then they saw us at the time of our reservation so they were like, oh, you guys are here.

[Fran]

I gotcha. And so that was like, hours later, it was like, you had an 8pm reservation. 8:30.

[Ria]

And that was on us because we just weren't thinking clearly, the six of us. And so we're like, oh, well, no,

[Fran]

no, no, no, don't do that.

[Ria]

Like, we'll just come in and eat.

[Fran]

I got you.

[Ria]

And the waiter comes to the table and he goes, seven courses. My mom genuinely spits. And it starts cracking up. Like, you know, when I get the giggles. Yeah, yeah. I wish I recorded her in this moment because I was like, oh, this is where I get it from. She couldn't stop laughing and just. Just bent over cackling, going, seven courses. Just totally not what we thought we were signing up for. It was on us for not reading the fine print. And it turned out to be one of the funniest nights there because we just. It. One of the things was pigeon. And my dad was like, I don't want pigeon.

[Fran]

Yeah. And you just gotta. You gotta look past it.

[Ria]

You gotta.

[Fran]

And you gotta look past it. And you know, you see it on the menu, you gotta go, right. Something else.

[Ria]

And obviously they, you know, in their Italian accents, he's like, pigeon.

[Fran]

Right, right.

[Ria]

And my dad was like, just because you're saying, like, that does not mean

[Fran]

I want to eat it. Something I want to eat.

[Ria]

But we had eaten it the night before, Matt and I, and it honestly just tasted like steak.

[Heather McMahon]

Yeah, but when you.

[Ria]

When you think about pigeon in, like, New York City, like, you're just like.

[Fran]

Yeah. No, I mean, anytime you really envision your food that clearly, if it's anything, you. It hits a little too close, you know, you don't.

[Heather McMahon]

Yeah.

[Ria]

So my dad's like, just because you're saying it like, that does not mean I want to eat it. So then we. Then he was like, okay, we'll give you the grouper instead. Like, it was. This dinner was madness. But we learned our lesson. Gotta read the fine print. We are not Michelin star people. That's not what we want to sign up for. It is not the thing.

[Fran]

To be honest, the thought that you guys made a reservation, canceled it, and

[Ria]

then showed up at the exact time

[Fran]

that the reservation was ridiculous is really fun.

[Ria]

No, it's ridiculous.

[Fran]

Like, what did you think was gonna happen? We were just gonna. And it was. And it was at your hotel.

[Ria]

It was like, no, it was all on us. We were so tipsy. We had got kind of came back from the winery. You know, you're just, like, in a funny mood. You're not thinking straight, and you're like, oh, my God. We just. And then we were stuck. Like, we could not leave. So that was very funny.

[Fran]

What was your favorite meal in Florence?

[Ria]

Oh, wow. I have to give a huge shout out to Heather. Heather McMahon. And you'll hear it on this episode, I think. I don't. I can't remember if it was during the interview or before, but Heather was like, I got all the wrecks.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Ria]

When I leave the studio, I'm going to text you, I'm going to call my guys in Italy, and I'm going to set you up with all the reservations. And my God, she did, like, as soon as we left the studio. Huge shout out to Heather. Because my favorite restaurant that we went to the entire trip was in Rome. Al Facetto. Absolutely delicious. She sent a bottle of champagne. It was.

[Fran]

It was all class.

[Ria]

Heather McMahon.

[Fran]

What a doll.

[Ria]

She's. I mean, she's my favorite person. And it just lived up to it right there. But the restaurant in Florence, El Peroni Perrion. Sorry. Yeah, I'm now blank. I went literally gone for so long that I'm. All the days are.

[Fran]

Joe and I had a full conversation. We were like. So we. We need to. We have to discuss that. It's may. Like, we have, like, what's going on? Where are we in life? What's happening? Like, we're having a weird. Like, what time of year is it?

[Ria]

No, it's crazy. I. I don't even know. It, like, feels like a dream. So both of the places that Heather set up were genuinely so delicious. And, like, two of my favorite meals that we had, we did a cooking class in Florence that was so beautiful. Learned so much. I'm really excited to take what we learned from the class and apply it at home. A different way to make tomato sauce and made raviolis. And anytime I've tried making raviolis in the raviolis in the past, I fucked it up. So to learn and actually see it and do it with them was really cool. And that was delicious. Like, that. It was so, so, so good.

[Fran]

My parents also made ravioli at a pasta making class.

[Ria]

Oh, did they?

[Fran]

It was just in Jupiter Floor.

[Ria]

Oh, my God. But, hey, that was.

[Fran]

They came home with boxes of, like, fresh pasta. It was delicious.

[Ria]

That's amazing. Yeah.

[Fran]

But they were also. Because my dad feels the same way. He's like, I'm not. I've always been uns.

[Ria]

Ravioli.

[Heather McMahon]

Ravioli.

[Ria]

Yeah. You gotta cut it the right way. It's a whole thing. But it was so, so fun.

[Fran]

And. Yeah.

[Ria]

I mean, there's Just so much like art and history in each place. Every place.

[Fran]

Florence has some great Rome.

[Ria]

Florence and Taormina, they're all unique in their own way. Like I took something away from each spot. I loved Rome. I think Rome like sometimes gets a bad rep. I think like people say it's overrated or they hated and whatever might have been the time of the year we went because it wasn't so crowded and it was beautiful weather. It was about 70 degrees, sunny each day every place we went, which you can't ask for anything better. And Rome has so much history and some not, not so great things and then other nice things, you know, when you really learn, when you really learn about it. But it was really, really cool. And I just loved each place so much that I've been going back and forth in my head of like, oh, which you know cause oh, which was your favorite place? Florence is just picture perfect. I mean it's like fake, you know. I love all the little streets and just everything like you said, the museums and everything that they have in each place was just so, so, so cool.

[Fran]

I was laughing at you posting about that walk up to the top. Cause we did that too on a day.

[Ria]

Dude, first of all, so many people message saying you have to do this walk up, but it's so worth it when you get to the top. Yeah, my mother in law really want. I wasn't even going to suggest it to the group, but my mother in law brought it up. She had seen it on TikTok and she was like, I really want to do this on at sunset. Da da da da. And my father in law had gotten like either the stomach bug or food poisoning at like the day before. And my dad's ankles completely swelled up from all the walking. So at one point Matt and I did lay in bed and go, God, our dads are old.

[Fran]

But they.

[Ria]

So they were both like, whatever. So this was the next day, everyone had recovered and we are walking up and it's just like, oh, wow, this keeps, this keeps going. Yeah. And I kept saying, oh, it's really gonna be worth it when we get to the top. When we got to the top and I had posted a video and people were like, no, you have to go to the top of stairs. No, no, no, I did go to the top of the stairs.

[Fran]

Yeah, there's just a thousand people, a

[Ria]

thousand people blocking you, so you can't even see past the railing. You gotta step up onto a bench to see it is not worth it in my opinion. I think there Are other beautiful spots in Florence or anywhere that you could see the sunset in a, in a beautiful way? Yes, you could see the whole city. But in my opinion, you can leave that out of your itinerary if you are dying to do it.

[Fran]

I did it not at sunset. And that was pretty like to see the whole city and it wasn't as crowded as when you go at sunset and there's a thousand people dying to sunset.

[Ria]

I think if you do it at another time, it is so cool. It is such a beautiful view of the city.

[Fran]

It is a really pretty aerial view, but specifically at sunset.

[Ria]

Specifically at sunset. It was madness. And I would say that the view from the bridge has a prettier view of, of the sunset in my opinion. But yeah, I mean it was so, it was so special. It was so fun. So many funny moments, so many hectic moments. I mean, you know, you always see all the beautiful, you know, moments of all together online. But like they. You're traveling, travel with your parents, you're traveling with your parents and your in laws, chaos. Bound to happen. I mean, my goodness. At one point Matt and I were like, oh yeah, we really have our four, four kids with us. Like the, like it is crazy. We joked about this with our friends too. Like sometimes they don't even know how to connect to the WI fi. And you're like, how did, how did you get me around? You know, like you can't connect to the WI fi right now. And oh, oh, and let me add this. This was a funny wrinkle. Every hotel we stayed at, all of our rooms were on the same floor. The last hotel, they put our room in between both of our parents rooms. So all I heard was from the balconies over Ri Ree. Can you help me set up the WI fi? Can you log into the WI fi? Oh my God. Oh my God. The amount of knocks on the door that I go, no, thank you. And it's your mother. I'm like, oh my God. We'd be like, no, no room service, right? No, we're good, we're good at the housekeeping. No, no, I have something for you. Okay. Okay. Coming to the door. I remember I answered the door at one point as my mother in law.

[Fran]

I said, who is it?

[Ria]

But no, it was, everybody's knocking. It was really, it was really funny though. Like when you, it was like a sitcom when you like you can't script, you can't script it when you're like, oh, our room is in between both of our parents.

[Fran]

That really did crack me up because that really was, like, the F. Murray Abraham, like, storyline on. On White Lotus with, like, him and his kid, like, then the grandson, and they're, like, all together in the room. In the hotel. Yeah.

[Ria]

Yes. Oh, no. It was. It was so funny, though. We were.

[Fran]

We were. Was it, like, warm enough for pool time?

[Ria]

So, actually, Sicily was the coldest, interesting, and the only place it rained. Yeah.

[Fran]

I guess it's still, like, kind of their spring. Spring season.

[Ria]

Yeah. And the hotel we were staying at was doing construction on their pool, coincidentally.

[Fran]

But thankfully, I mean, it's not like it was warm enough. You were pissed that I would have been.

[Heather McMahon]

Yeah.

[Ria]

Yeah. We did get a warning that it wouldn't be open, but it wasn't warm enough to even go in it, so that was fine. But each place was just so cool, and it. It really did live up to what I had dreamt up Italy to be in my head and more probably.

[Fran]

The.

[Ria]

The.

[Fran]

The Sicilian wine is, like, one of my favorite. The nerosos are just gosh divine.

[Ria]

I mean, by the way, we drank 10 nights in a row.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Ria]

At the. On the last day, my parents called me from their balcony, and I came out and they said, because we went to lunch. And honestly, that was actually probably up there for. Oh, my God. Now I'm remembering every place we ate. Joe Jones had posted a place in Rome on his Instagram. That was the first meal we had.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Ria]

When we landed, we went walking, went right to this place. There's always a line. There was no line. It was lunchtime. Got right in. We were all, like, crying at.

[Fran]

I have a little cup from that place.

[Ria]

Oh, really? Oh, yeah.

[Fran]

Oh, yeah.

[Ria]

Because you could buy it. Yeah. I didn't realize till after. I was so bummed, but we were, like, in tears at how fucking good this pasta was. The cacio e pepe I got was just so fresh and delicious and all trip. My dad kept going, that Joe Jonas pasta. I can't stop thinking about it. He's like, that Joe Jonas pasta. I'm like, you think Joe Jonas owns this place? But, oh, what was I saying? Oh, this place in Sicily.

[Fran]

Was you talking about drinking every day?

[Ria]

Drinking every day? Yes. But we went to this place in Sicily.

[Fran]

But that's the way.

[Ria]

You can't not. And we went to this place, and it was the last lunch that we had, and we went all out. Oh, my God. It was just right up there as well. I mean, I have probably a top five places. That was really up there, too. Was just so good. I Could cry thinking about it right now. But I just wasn't speaking.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Ria]

Because I just had really hit a wall at that point. And when we got back, my dad was like, let me ask you, you, are you okay? You were a little quiet at lunch. And I said, dad, yeah.

[Fran]

I've given all I got.

[Ria]

This is our 10th day drinking. I've given in. Everything I fucking got, okay?

[Fran]

And like sometimes lunch is like, I don't have any conversation left in me. You know, I've been doing lunch, dinners, breakfast every day.

[Ria]

We've been having breakfast, lunch and dinner together every day for 10 days.

[Fran]

I got nothing else to say to you.

[Ria]

Nothing. I said, I have hit my limit. But by the way, my parents can talk and talk and talk and talk and talk and talk. They never run out of things to say. Never. They never run out of things to say.

[Fran]

But it's really, it's a talent though because I just feel like they could just look at something in the room and then it could spark a 30 minute conversation.

[Ria]

Right. And I know that I've done that on this podcast about a million times.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Ria]

But then you realize where it comes from when you spend so much time with your family, you're like, oh, these are traits I've picked up on. This has been passed down. Yes. No, but it was so special. So much fun having both sets of parents together. And they just had so much fun and so many laughs together as well. And it was my parents anniversary one night and that was the first night we got to Sicily and we sent them off on their own to have their own dinner, the four of them. And we're like, you know, cause Matt's parents anniversary is this week. So we're like, you two little anniversary combo. You guys go do that. Yep, we're gonna spend some time alone. And then our anniversary, Matt had set up a whole surprise which was so awesome. We went to this restaurant in Florence and now I'm like, as I'm talking, remembering these things.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Ria]

Because this was also incredible. Went to this restaurant in Florence. They took us downstairs into this like wine cellar type of room, private room, very Tuscan looking. And it was just the two of us in this humongous room with like a, you know, it was a one of those seven course meals that were actually enjoyable. Not like a Michelin one. It was like really enjoyable, really good. I had like tortellini that was really good. We did have pigeon, which was interesting. Just tasted like steak though. But like all just like lit by candles. Super romantic, really special. Having that moment alone and then with our family. So, yeah, it was. It was really, honestly better than I could have even expected it to be. It was. It was so awesome. It was amazing.

[Fran]

Italy gets an A plus. Italy gets an A plus.

[Ria]

The motherland gets an A plus.

[Fran]

Yep.

[Ria]

Just so much cool history, you know, there that you learn. But I will say, like, everyone was like, was it your favorite place you've ever been to? I. It. It's so hard when, like.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Ria]

To compare different places that you've been to because everything is so unique and in their own way, in my opinion, like Spain, absolutely gorgeous. So much I took away from there. France, like, so many different places that I love and have specific unique things about them that I. That make them all special. So, I mean, just because it's the motherland, I'm not gonna say it's the favorite. Yeah, but it is. It.

[Heather McMahon]

It.

[Fran]

You did text me like, we belong here.

[Ria]

Oh, well, I. I do think that me and you could go live there for a summer and record the podcast from a villa in Tuscany.

[Fran]

I certainly.

[Ria]

We would really thrive.

[Fran]

Sarah's eyebrows went, yeah, well, because, I

[Ria]

mean, there's just a lot of Maria and Francesca's. There are a lot.

[Fran]

Yeah. Yeah, there are a lot.

[Ria]

And I met them all.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Ria]

I met Maria, I met Francesca, and I was like, oh, we're home. You know, and it. That's actually kind of what it felt like. Not to be cheesy, but like, I grew up around my mom's side of the family. Always talking Italian or Sicilian, like, with each other. When my grandparents lived in New York. Cause they. Any family gathering, they only talked in Italian to each other. So being there, it didn't feel, you know, like I was like, oh, like it was comforting. Yeah, it was like, oh, my aunts and uncles, you know, like, it kind of like felt that way at times.

[Fran]

How'd your mom do with her Italian?

[Ria]

Better in Sicily.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Ria]

Which makes sense because it is a lot different.

[Fran]

Sicilian dialect is very.

[Ria]

It's very different. And I actually. It was so funny because you can really feel the difference in parts of Italy. Like, going to Sicily is so different than Rome or Florence and, like, so different.

[Fran]

Northern Italy is so different.

[Ria]

Realizing a lot of the traditions that were in my family came from Sicily. Like cannolis and arancini, which we called rice balls. Like big fat rice balls with the sauce and the meat and the cheese and the peas and. My God, this orangeini was fucking life changing. It was so good. But it tasted like my, like, relatives who have now passed. They would always make these kinds of rice balls so it tasted like that. And the cannolis and all of those things. And my God, we had this. This sandwich that was so special. Oh, my God. I'm looking up at the sky thinking about it. We went to this.

[Fran]

I can see you picturing it.

[Heather McMahon]

I can.

[Ria]

I'm literally picturing the mortadella in the air. We went to this place in Taormina that. And by the way, I know that there's a lot of other places in Sicily that are. That have a lot. And that Taormina has now become like. I would say they, like, commercialized in a way people say.

[Fran]

But there is.

[Ria]

It's so unique and special. But it is a hot spot now. But there's this one place that was dedicated to, like, pistachio.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Ria]

Yeah. We had the sandwich that was mortadella burrata and just pistachio. And then like a pet. Like a pistachio cream.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Ria]

Not pesto. It's like pistachio cream. I know that pesto comes up. Whatever. I could write songs. I could write songs about this sandwich. It was so amazing. It was like the best sandwich I've ever had. It was so good. And nobody was going here and. Because you know how places become, like, really popular online. They become viral. And you can tell when you're there in Italy or Europe, like, the lines for certain places compared to other places. Yeah. It's a ghost town in certain places. And then just long lines. And no one's willing to step out of the box to go to the other place. This one place was next to an extremely popular sandwich place that had a line going down, down, down. No one was in this store.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Ria]

I was like, all right, well, let's try this. Because I have a. Like.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Ria]

I like to venture.

[Fran]

Sometimes it feels like they don't want, like they're purpose. They're purposely like. We don't need the. The.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Fran]

Crazy, like in tick tock posts.

[Ria]

And sometimes it's like when a place becomes super, super popular, sometimes I think they stop putting the love into it. Right. You know, like, it's like you gotta go to the, like the local spots that people are not talking about so much. Of course, try the viral spots too. But, like, where I really think the really good stuff comes from is, like, when you mix it up.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Ria]

I was. I wanted to start telling everybody in the streets to go to this place

[Fran]

because I was like, this is the best sandwich I've ever start going up to. People that are in the other line. You got to get out of this line.

[Ria]

Go. Go there.

[Fran]

Let me tell you something. This mortadella, this line, it was just.

[Ria]

Oh, my God. It was beautiful and fantastic.

[Fran]

I'm so happy for you guys. And it really gave me, like. I was like, oh, fuck. I. I got to. I got to get back. I'm so excited to be home and back to my house. That is stocked with Pepsi Prebiotic Cola. It comes in two flavors. The original cola and the cherry vanilla. It has that same great Pepsi taste, but now with even more to love. With no artificial sweeteners, only 5 grams of sugar, just 30 calories, and 3 grams of prebiotic fiber. Pepsi Prebiotic Cola. It's unbelievably Pepsi. I love coming home and. And enjoying a nice Pepsi Prebiotic Cola. Sometimes you just get that craving where you want that taste, that cola taste. Well, this is so delicious. I love the cherry vanilla or the original. Both are so good. And you get those 3 grams of prebiotic fiber. So it just makes it that much better to lounge, sit back, relax, put on a TV show, get cozy, and crack open a nice cold Pepsi Prebiotic Cola. It's available now, so go try it today.

[Ria]

I thought I wrote a couple things down, but I think I. I think I hit them all. I wanted to give a special thanks to Heather McMahon. I did write that down because she. Because in the way, I'm sure I'm leaving some things out that I wanted to mention, but it's just something we'll remember forever. And I have to be honest, it's like, genuinely made me so happy to see our parents so happy. Yeah, that's like a once in a

[Fran]

lifetime trip to be able to take all four parents.

[Ria]

It really was a once in a lifetime trip. And so special. And they deserve it. They really do. And just to give them that time away to just like, focus on themselves and enjoy their time, really meant a lot. You can see how happy and relaxed they were. And oftentimes relaxed, not so much. So it was really, really nice to see. And I am. I'm so happy. And it exceeded my expectations, I have to say. It really did. The way in which Heather McMahon acted for me was how I acted for Noah in his trip to London.

[Fran]

Making reservations for M.

[Noah]

Ria did really. Every single dinner was a recommendation from Ria, which I knew going in.

[Ria]

And some breakfast and some lunch.

[Noah]

Yeah. Some break. Yeah, yeah. Pretty much all of it. And yeah, didn't disappoint.

[Fran]

I was gonna say, how'd they all pan out.

[Ria]

I was keeping tabs. I was like, let me know.

[Noah]

No, my mom and I were making, like, rankings of, like, what we Kudu is like the number one, like, at the end of the trip. That was actually Joe Jones Joe Jonas spot spot as well.

[Fran]

That man knows his.

[Ria]

I've been taking Joe Jonas spots and making them my own.

[Noah]

Yeah.

[Fran]

So that was the joe jonas/ria Tour of London and Rome.

[Ria]

He doesn't even know.

[Noah]

Yeah, I mean, but London's the best. Like, London is, if not.

[Fran]

How many days were you there?

[Noah]

Five days. We got there Sunday, like, morning, so. And then left Friday morning, so. But yeah, it's just like, I've been there enough times now where now it's just like, I just go to the. The spots that I like to go to. My mom, like, she visited me when I studied abroad there, but she didn't have like a ton of time. So this time, like, took her to a thing that I do, which might be weird is I like to like, like a big into history. So, like, it's not weird. No, no, weird, like, you know, like, visit the house that Amy Winehouse lived in, like, that area.

[Fran]

I don't think that's where I love.

[Noah]

I think he died. Like, it's just like, wow, this is where it all happened.

[Ria]

What else to do when you visit somewhere else?

[Fran]

You guys think that's like a tourist. Touristy things to do?

[Noah]

I did that when I was there, but then I took my mom there, but went to all the big markets. But yeah, the dinners were great. And yeah, we went to that top, top bar, top cocktail bar. Yeah. Is it the Cannot Connaught? Okay. But yeah, I thought just overall great trip. Love London. And yeah, my mom's probably, like, seen enough of me now for the next few weeks. But we. I calculated we walked like six over 60 miles. Like, we walked so much every day because we just would walk everywhere.

[Fran]

Did you guys have good weather?

[Noah]

It was actually really nice weather. Like, we got so lucky because the whole week. This week I checked, it's like raining and then the 50s. It was like. I mean, like 70 and like sunny in London.

[Fran]

What a dream.

[Ria]

It was. It really. It really. It was nice over there.

[Noah]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. You guys do have to go to. I went to a spot that I had seen, but then I had also seen a Margot Robbie was like, that's her favorite pub slash going out place. And we went there the last night and it's like the coolest place. Like, I was. I would just go there, like, Every.

[Fran]

It is funny when you see, like, celebrities recommendations or if places that you've been to or not. You just like. Joe got so excited because he saw this Tatler post of, like, Dua Lipa's favorite places in Paris. And, like, one of our favorite restaurants that we went to when we went was on there, and he was like, dua put Clamato on her list. You're like, oh, we have the same taste. Oh, God, she's just like, us.

[Ria]

The same taste.

[Fran]

No, but that's. It's so fun to go to all these places. I'm so excited to go. Oh, I feel like this, like, now we're getting closer to our. Closer to our trip.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Fran]

No matter.

[Ria]

No matter.

[Fran]

It's May.

[Ria]

It is May. It's May.

[Fran]

We're going the end of June.

[Ria]

No matter where I go, though, I always think about London, like, and it might just be like a special place. You become attached to a place. Because I'm not saying it is a something about.

[Noah]

It's like, very comforting.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Ria]

I'm not saying it's a better place than any other place, but when something becomes different, you're feeling. Favorite place. Yeah. You just. You dream about it. Yeah. And that's so. I'm very excited to go back there. But. Yeah. You know, so obviously you do so much walking, which was so funny because we had, like, really tried to prepare my dad for that, but he was like, man, it's a lot of walking. And he was able to get. The pharmacy there is obviously easier to get things. He was able to get, like water pills for the. His legs.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Ria]

Because they were completely swelling up. So that was helpful. But.

[Noah]

But the walking is good. Then you can, like, rationalize how much you eat or drink because you're like, well, we walked so much.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Fran]

But that's fucking bullshit.

[Ria]

They know it's not. You come back losing weight. Nah, nah, trust me. Actually, at one point, we were all so pissed because Matt put on a pair of jeans that he had brought on the trip, and they were, like, so much looser than when he packed them. And we were like, you, like, seriously, like, that's because all of us were having the opposite issue. And we're like, oh, my God, things are. Things are tight, but let me.

[Fran]

Boys just have it.

[Ria]

It's just like, boys just have it easier. They just do. It's like, so literally, like, we were just looking at him like, oh, how nice that must be for you.

[Fran]

No, truly. Yeah. I deal with that with my husband as well. Like, he one he'll do one week.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Fran]

Of, like, exercising, eating healthy. And he did, like, when I was in Florida, he. And then he came into Florida and I was like, oh, my God, you look great. He was like, yeah, I've been this week. I'm like, oh, this week?

[Ria]

This week.

[Fran]

This week.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Fran]

Sorry.

[Ria]

All the dirty martinis, red wine, pasta, pizza, cannolis, gelato that I've had is not making me lose weight. Okay.

[Fran]

No, no, no. But my.

[Ria]

How much fucking walking I did. But so worth it. I don't give a shit. Yeah. I don't care. I'm not like. Like. No. You go there to experience those.

[Fran]

Exactly. You go there for all that.

[Ria]

I have to say, I don't think I had nearly enough gelato that I was supposed to.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Ria]

I don't think I had a lot of cannolis. Bless you. But I think I. The only thing.

[Fran]

No, the problem is, is that you do enjoy the food so much. The food is so good that when it does get to be gelato time, it's like, I can't eat another bite. Yeah.

[Ria]

I have to say, on the plane home, I thought about. I said, oh, God, I don't think I have gelato. That was like the.

[Fran]

You have to. You actually have to do the afternoon gelato.

[Ria]

Yes.

[Fran]

That's my.

[Ria]

We made.

[Fran]

You do, like, the. Like the 4pm Gelato.

[Ria]

We made fresh ice cream from scratch in our cooking class. Vanilla bean. Yeah. Which was so cool because I didn't know you had, like, actually cut the bean open and put it in and the whole thing. And that was. That was so fresh and delicious. But I only had pistachio gelato one night maybe, and it's not enough. Not enough.

[Fran]

Not enough.

[Ria]

I'm thinking I didn't have enough gelato, so. Gonna have to go back.

[Fran]

Just.

[Ria]

I know.

[Fran]

I know.

[Ria]

Gonna have to go back. But, yeah, an amazing trip and just thankful. Thankful for all the moments. Grateful for all the moments. Happy to be back, though. I will say everything.

[Fran]

Hallelujah. Yeah.

[Ria]

Everything.

[Fran]

Hallelujah.

[Ria]

Cannolis. Hallelujah. And Cheney. Hallelujah. I only had one really bad hangover. Like, I didn't get hungover at all because apparently that doesn't exist. Even when you have six martinis, two lemon drop shots, and a bottle of champagne.

[Fran]

Yeah, that's.

[Ria]

Apparently, you don't get hungover.

[Fran]

I don't drink as much hard alcohol when I'm over there, like, because I'm like, this is the. It's the only time when I can drink a lot of Wine. And not feel like shit.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Fran]

Because I do that here and I feel like shit.

[Ria]

Honey. I'm drinking everything. Wine, cocktail, whatever. Only one night did I wake up with the worst. I was like, oh, my God. Oh, my God. I think I got hit by. But like, yeah, that. It's terrible because a day goes out. The one day in Sicily just went out the window for me when I woke up because I was like, holy. I got hit by a bus. The only thing that could save me right now is a rice ball. So I've just mustered up the courage to get into town and have one

[Fran]

fat rice ball and go, please.

[Ria]

Fat ass rice ball. Yep. She kind of clocked me hard, though, because I was like, oh, can I get. Because Rice ball. It's a street. Like, you know, but sometimes it falls apart. So I said, oh, can I have a fork? She said, I have to charge you extra because it's a street food. I said, okay, that's fine. But then she was, like, giving me major attitude about it. And then I was like, my family's Sicilian. We make these.

[Fran]

I know.

[Ria]

I was just like, okay, well, no need to snap, but the charging of the fork.

[Fran]

Yeah, yeah.

[Ria]

Is a little crazy to me.

[Heather McMahon]

Yeah.

[Ria]

But Right.

[Fran]

Because it's also like, how much could it possibly be?

[Ria]

Yeah. 50. 50 cents or whatever it was. But I was like, okay, fine, I'm gonna. And it did fall apart, so I'm glad that I had the fork.

[Fran]

There you go.

[Ria]

But we had one night that we went out in Sicily, and we were. We were all wasted, and we went back to this place, the rice ball place. I was like, guys, I found this rice ball place yesterday when I was hungover.

[Fran]

We gotta go back here.

[Ria]

Oh, my God. Drunk devouring rice balls. And. And they actually had, like, Sicilian Square pizza.

[Fran]

Yeah. Yeah. Oh, the. The late. The, like, drunk eating is just 10 times.

[Ria]

Oh, God. It was just. I did want to try McDonald's there in Florence. Yeah. Because I like to try the.

[Heather McMahon]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Ria]

The McDonald's and other international.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Ria]

Into other places, but it kind of got away. Because, I mean, you. When you're eating all the other. Oh, sorry.

[Fran]

Time for it.

[Ria]

Last thing I want to say. We went to the Jersey Shore pizza place where they worked at in their Jersey Shore Italian season. Fantastic. The pizza is really amazing. Really good.

[Noah]

Was there, like, a picture of them on the wall?

[Ria]

Very small. Very, very small outside. Very small. It seemed like they really.

[Fran]

Yeah, yeah. They're not. It's not the main.

[Ria]

No, they're not trying to really advertise it, but it's there.

[Fran]

But yeah, they're not trying to be, like, sweeter sauce.

[Ria]

And it was. Yeah, really good.

[Fran]

This is making me.

[Ria]

Sorry, sorry, sorry.

[Noah]

But that foul edition, by the way, was really good. The breakfast sandwich that you took, Right.

[Ria]

Oh, my God.

[Noah]

I think that was called the Royale with Cheese. Or maybe

[Fran]

it was.

[Ria]

So Noah was having. Me. I'm like, I think this is called the Royale with Cheese. Like, why am I remembering this?

[Noah]

No, my mom. Because I'd be like, ria said to get this job.

[Fran]

Like, food dominates our trip.

[Ria]

No, Like, I.

[Noah]

No, my mom was like, how does she remember all this?

[Fran]

Because it's the most memorable part of a trip sometimes is the amazing food that you got to eat. I love traveling food. Love is love. Love is food.

[Ria]

I love traveling because of the food. Like, I really love to taste food from different places, and I just admire it. I can't get enough. When we got back yesterday, or. No, this. I mean, we got back yesterday, but this morning, woke up early. What did I get? Bacon, egg, and cheese on an everything bagel. Yeah, exactly. Oh, I'm back home now. I'm gonna have a bacon, egg, and cheese on everything. Yes.

[Fran]

So it was the local cuisine.

[Ria]

Amazing. And I think I've said enough. Just happy to be back, though, and a great time. How was your trip? You had a bachelorette party? You were in Florida?

[Fran]

Yes. Full bachelorette party. I had an absolute blast. Bridget was a great. She had a great time. She was ready. She was like, oh, my God, you're off the whole.

[Ria]

Your.

[Fran]

No episodes the whole week. And I was like, yeah. She's like, so no Bachelorette recap. She was like, I'm not getting my moments on the show where you talk

[Ria]

about my bachelorette party now. You can.

[Fran]

Yeah. And I was like, I'll tell you about it. I'll talk about it when I get back. No, we had a blast. We were in Key West. We had a ton of fun. It was beautiful weather. It's just, like. It's a funny place because. And I think doing the drive, like, made me think about it differently, because let me tell ya, driving through the Keys, there's the road, you know, there's not much until you get to Key West.

[Ria]

Did you stop at Dave's house?

[Fran]

I did not. But let me tell you, when I was driving through Islamorada, I was like, damn, Dave lives here. What's he doing?

[Ria]

That's why he's on the beach every day.

[Fran]

Yeah. That's why he's Teeing by the sea. Yeah, because. And I'm sure, like, that's the lifestyle you want when you.

[Ria]

When.

[Fran]

When you're down there. But the drive is really, really pretty. But you do. Once you get off the highway, the end of South Florida, it's like, okay, 100 miles on one road. And it's like one road, one lane. There's lights. It's a lot. Like, two and a half hours on this. On this, you're just going straight through the Keys. You go over these cool. Like, all these bridges that connect all the islands. It was. It's a gorgeous ride. But it was interesting when I finally got to Key west, and I was like, oh, you go back to, like, Staples and, like, Starbucks. Like, there's name things around. But the whole downtown area is so fun. The bars were so fun. We had a great dinner Thursday night, and then we were out and about. You know, what was the funniest shit? We go to this bar called Sloppy Joes, which, you know, got a good kick out of that. Had to bring home a T shirt and a hat for my husband, of course. Um, but there was this. This band playing, and they were like. Of course, they were from Philly. And the lead singer looked like Maddie from Southern Hospitality, like she was putting on a fucking show. Rock star. And we went Thursday night, and we had so much fun. And they were just, like, playing song after song, and they were like, oh, we're here. This is like night two of our seven nights. And we were like, oh, my God, Seven nights here. Friday we went back. We're like. But then Friday we realized that they were playing, like, basically the same set over again.

[Ria]

The run in the back.

[Fran]

And we were like, ooh, okay, maybe we have to mix it up a little bit. So we tried. Tried some other places, too, but we had so much fun. We did a boat. We did a bar crawl on. See, I was, like, kind of pacing myself a little bit. And Friday night I was like, you know. Well, you know, it was. I started to get a little.

[Ria]

Like.

[Fran]

I was just having a bit of a. Of a stomachache. And I was like, I'm gonna cool down for a little bit Saturday morning. Boy, was I glad I did because there's some hurt birds in the group of the people that. There was, like, a first wave of people that left Friday night, and then

[Ria]

a second wave that you were home.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Ria]

And I said, why? You went home with the first wave? I was shocked.

[Fran]

Yeah, yeah, I know. That's. It was really only because I was very unlike you really? Only because I wasn't feeling well. And then with Saturday, we. We did a full and I was ready to go. But Bridget's fiance is. Is named Nathan, so. And like. And he loves hot dogs. The Feenies love hot dogs. Her sister Katie is married and on her Bachelorette, they did like a Feeny's Last Weenie kind of thing. You know, it just writes itself. Right. So we do a full, like, Nathan's hot dog themed bar crawl where we're all in Nathan's hot dog polos. And Bridget dressed as the actual hot dog, which was extra funny because her friend just, like, had that costume already.

[Ria]

You're like, oh, you just keep this in the back of your closet.

[Fran]

So she just had to borrow that. And she went full hot dog. And Bridget was like, incredibly hungover on Saturday. And So, like, by 4:00', clock, she's coming down dressed as a hot dog and she's like, I'm dying. And she's like, hungover hot dog.

[Ria]

Almost the best case scenario not having to get dressed up when you're hungover, though.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Ria]

Like, I just gotta put on this hot dog costume and call it a day.

[Fran]

Exactly. And we almost lost her. Like, we went to dinner before going out and she was like, I don't know if I can make it. She had like one drink and she kind of brought her back to life. Thank God, because then when we went to the next bar, they brought her up on stage, did a whole by. By Miss American Pot. And my God, did this guy. We went to Irish Kevin's and my guy to this Sloppy Joes.

[Ria]

Sloppy Joe.

[Fran]

Yep, yep. They're hilarious bar names. And my God, did he make these people. Like, he brought Bridget up. Then he brought up this one guy and we were being extra mean to this guy. He was like a.

[Ria]

He was.

[Fran]

Was uncalled for. He was probably in his 20s. And the guy was like, oh, what are you here for? He's like, I'm just here with my mom. And we were like,

[Ria]

aw, it was sweet.

[Fran]

But at the same time, we were cracking up because we wanted. He made a couple. Irish Kevin made it a competition. Oh. So, like, the guy had one half of the bar.

[Ria]

Gotcha.

[Fran]

And then Bridget had the other half of the bar. And I, Irish Kevin, made us sing the chorus to that song 40 times.

[Ria]

Oh, my God.

[Fran]

I'd be like, end again.

[Ria]

Really?

[Fran]

Bridget Side end again.

[Ria]

Really?

[Fran]

I think this is the thing. You go to Irish Kevin's like, they

[Ria]

do for the battle.

[Fran]

Because my guy, we stayed like an Hour later, he did it again with other people.

[Ria]

Oh, God.

[Fran]

So, you know, we're cheering our little hearts out for our dancing hot dog. And then the other guy was like, trying to get his side to win. And we were like, hey, it's her bachelorette. She's dressed as a hot dog, right? Let the girl win.

[Ria]

You're gonna embarrass her while she dresses like a hot dog.

[Fran]

Have her win.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Fran]

And she's dressed as a hot dog.

[Ria]

That would be rude.

[Fran]

It was really funny, though. The amount of people that thought we were like Nathan's employees.

[Ria]

I could see the mix up.

[Fran]

The amount of people that were like, so you guys were. For Nathan's. You're like, no corporate retreat. It took a while before. Yeah, before finally, like, there'd be groups of people hanging around us and 30 minutes would go by and they'd be like. So I got to ask, like, why the.

[Ria]

Wow. Nathan's has really beautiful employees. It was so funny.

[Fran]

We're like, yeah, yeah. You know, they said, this is our. This is our Key west management retreat, our yearly retreat. And shout out Madeline. Because my DIY queen, she got all those yellow polos and ironed all the Nathan. Like, she made those. Iron the Nathan's logo onto all beautiful yellow. She did such a great job. And she's like, now she's making all these necklaces. She made these beautiful shell necklaces for us that were so pretty. And she's taking this like shells from the beach in Florida. And just. They're. They're so cool. So, yeah, just a lot of. A lot of fun, a lot of laughs. We really were. We really were giggling. Especially, Especially Saturday night. It was just like you had like kind of an out of body experience because Bridget's on stage dancing as a hot dog. Like, there's 9 million TVs on there was just like. It was just. It was just madness. And we, We. We had such. We had such a fun time.

[Ria]

It looked like so much fun.

[Fran]

We had such a blast. So then I went back. I drove back from Key west to. Where'd I go? Back to Jupiter and stayed the week, which was lovely. Just really relaxation time.

[Ria]

Nice.

[Fran]

Not too much there. Beautiful weather getting a little hot. But it was so fun to have, you know, I had Olive with us, which was so great. And it's just every time you go down, you spend that much time down there, it's just like shit. You get used to this. You get up, beautiful, walk with the dogs on the beach, you have your coffee, you sit out you catch up on what's going on. You just. It's beautiful weather. The sun is shining. I read my book. Floating in the pool.

[Ria]

Mm. You do a little swim, you take a little nap, you eat a little food.

[Fran]

Yep, exactly. We had some great. Some good meals. My dad cooked one night that was this, like, salmon that was fantastic. And funny enough, we did. We go. We went to this little spot that's in Hoob Sound. That's a Italian place, Casa del Vino. Shout out. And it's a. It's older Italian couple that runs the place. And it's really. It's small. They serve, like, maybe 10 people a night, like, if they can, depending on who's coming in for the seatings. And it's a, you know, fixed menu, whatever they got going that night. And it was absolutely delicious. We also had. I had a lot of ravioli. A lot of ravioli.

[Ria]

So much ravioli.

[Fran]

A lot of ravioli. But really so good. And. Yeah, then Joe came down towards, like, the end of the week, which was nice. And we had a lot of. Lot of fun time together. It's my mom's birthday this coming week, so I'm missing, like, the, you know, Mother's Day birthday. Combo G is actually going down to see her. But the way it worked out with, like, being in Key west and also us having the week off was like, well, I'm gonna write this week.

[Ria]

Exactly.

[Fran]

And do that. So that was a lot of fun. But, yeah, we. We really were just relaxing. Wasn't like, reading my book, watching sports. A lot of basketball, hockey, playoffs are on, you know, it's a lot of fun.

[Ria]

A lot of that was happening. Yeah.

[Fran]

Yeah. Got to watch the Sixers win with my. With my parents and. And lots of games. And my dad's so sorry.

[Ria]

There's a lot of this discussion going on.

[Fran]

He's gonna say he doesn't care.

[Noah]

Not that I don't care. It's just. They, like. It's kind of. I don't know if. I don't know if you saw Dave's video, but it's. It's like they weren't going to win, like, this year, and the Sixers aren't going to win, so. Yeah, we can rest easy now.

[Fran]

Well, I don't. I. You know, that's the big picture, but I'm going to enjoy the little picture. Here's the little picture is they haven't beaten the Celtics in a playoff series since the 80s.

[Ria]

Oh, really? Yeah.

[Noah]

They haven't. When's the last time they Won a playoff series before this.

[Fran]

They have won playoff series. Don't be a fucking dick.

[Noah]

I'm actually rooting for the Sixers against the Knicks because they're both, like, horrible fans to listen to.

[Ria]

Nixon, Sixers, but High School Musical shout out.

[Fran]

Yeah. Yep.

[Noah]

Oh, I didn't.

[Fran]

Yeah, yeah.

[Ria]

Work this out. Yeah, yeah. High School Musical, too.

[Noah]

But I'd rather see the Sixers advance than the Knicks, to be honest.

[Fran]

Well, it was funny because I like. Joe's a big Knicks fan, so we're, you know, house divided. And he was. Wait, are the Knicks.

[Ria]

The Knicks are playing the Sixers. Sorry, sorry. I know that it registered, but now it's really registering because, like, oh, my God, A house divided battle. That's so fun.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Ria]

Next Sixers tonight.

[Fran]

Tonight, Game one.

[Ria]

I'm going to be tuning in.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Ria]

But I'm going to be rooting for the Knicks.

[Fran]

Yeah, that's fair. You know, I really.

[Ria]

Why would I root for the Sixers?

[Fran]

Why would you root for the Six,

[Noah]

like, out of your.

[Fran]

I don't know. I actually really.

[Ria]

I'm from New York.

[Fran]

I. To be honest, I really.

[Ria]

And I say that as if I've ever. I'm from New York. Go Nicks.

[Fran]

They plan at the Garden.

[Heather McMahon]

That was a little boss.

[Noah]

First of all, I didn't really realize the intense history between Embiid and calling Anthony Towns, by the way. Now I'm seeing all this, like, that they. They hate each other.

[Fran]

Yeah. That. You know, it's going to be a very interesting. It's going to be a very interesting series. I'm excited for it, though. It's. But it was funny because I think there. And especially for me, like, I. Because Joe's such a big Knicks fan, like, and this. You know, the Philly in me probably doesn't like. The Philly me won't like this, but I'll root for the Knicks. I root for the Knicks all the time.

[Ria]

Will the. Will there be games this weekend? Yeah. When?

[Fran]

Friday and Sunday.

[Ria]

Oh, my God.

[Fran]

In Philly. Friday.

[Ria]

I asked you to come. I asked you to do something Friday.

[Fran]

Yeah, I know. Well, the schedule came out.

[Ria]

I know only. Okay, well, I won't be mad if you have to cancel, but whatever. And we're just, like, talking out loud. Yeah, that's fine.

[Heather McMahon]

Yeah.

[Fran]

Yeah. The. Yeah, It's. It's. It's. It's very interesting because they did. They played in the first round. I hope this goes against 2024.

[Ria]

Sorry.

[Fran]

Not that long ago. And in the first round. And Nick's killed Us.

[Noah]

Maxi is so good.

[Fran]

I will say he is so good. But it was funny, like, having this joint bond of, like, Knicks and Sixers just kind of hating the Celtics. So there was, like, the Knicks fans were kind of like, yeah, we're happy the Celtics lost, but now the Knicks fans.

[Noah]

I saw a lot of Knicks fans being like, we'd rather play the Celtics than the Sixers. Yeah.

[Fran]

But I don't think they would have felt that way before the Celtics Sixers series. Like, if we were going into the playoffs, looking at it well, and I think they would have been like, yeah, exactly. There's, like, they would have. Right now, there's only a very limited amount of evidence of when the Sixers play as they're starting five and everybody's healthy. Like, it rarely happened all season long. You did not get, like, Embiid and VJ and Tyrese Maxey all, like, everybody together at the same time. Because Embiid's.

[Noah]

I mean, Paul George was also, like, didn't miss the entire series. It felt like, yeah.

[Fran]

And so. But my God, every time he falls to the ground, he's. When a big guy just falls to the ground like that, you're just nervous. Flopping to the ground every time. Yeah. And. Go ahead, Noah.

[Noah]

No, no, I actually. I think the Jaylen Brown Twitch stream last night was so bad. Like, I think that's so embarrassing.

[Fran]

I think that's. And granted, like, I do like Jaylen Brown, too. I find that to be unfortunate. Sort of the kind. It's kind of like, loser.

[Noah]

It is.

[Fran]

What happened?

[Noah]

He went on Twitch last night and, like, basically made a bunch of excuses.

[Ria]

Jalen Brown is on the Celtics.

[Fran]

Celtics, and he's just being like, you know, well, b. Just flops all the time. Like, everybody's just flopping.

[Noah]

Like, he also said the rest have an agenda against.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Fran]

Yeah. So just like, when you.

[Ria]

When you get voted out of Survivor, you just have to say thank you.

[Noah]

A lot of people are also attaching to the line where he was like, this was my favorite year of basketball, where it's like, the year that you lost in the first round is a better season to you than when you won the finals and got finals mvp.

[Fran]

Interesting.

[Noah]

He said this is his favorite year, and. But people are saying that's like a shot at Tatum, right?

[Fran]

Do they have. Do they have issues?

[Noah]

I mean, no. Like, like, not. They would never say that, but people, like, he was the number one option all year. So.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Fran]

Sometimes I feel. Well, you know, it's like, that's a. That's a tough battle. It's a tough dynamic when you're superstar and when he gets her and then you have your. He steps up, he becomes a superstar. But then Tatum comes back and it's like, well, who's the superstar now?

[Noah]

Yeah, you know, Tatum being hurt was unfortunate.

[Fran]

No, that was that. Yeah.

[Noah]

Because it was also like, you. You. I was like, you don't risk.

[Fran]

You don't risk that because another. Another injury like last year. Another injury like last year and that's. That is potentially career ending, you know?

[Noah]

Yeah.

[Fran]

Like, it's a. It's a tough situation. Tatum tore his Achilles in the playoffs last year.

[Ria]

Oh.

[Fran]

Came back super fast.

[Ria]

Yes.

[Fran]

Like, way faster than the usual timeline to play. And then after game six, he looked like he maybe up his knee a little bit or maybe it was a calf situation. I think they said. They ended up. They ended up saying me. But especially with like Achilles. It was his other.

[Noah]

It was like compensate for your other leg.

[Fran]

But you. Yeah, exactly. And the Achilles is like anytime you have any sort of lower leg injury that you kind of try and play through, that's when the Achilles injuries happen.

[Ria]

A lot of pressure.

[Fran]

So I think they were very much worried about that. And he didn't play. But yeah, we got. We have next Sixers. I'm excited and be was like begging Sixers fans not to sell their.

[Noah]

That was embarrassing.

[Fran]

The Sixers. The. But I feel like that happens everywhere and it's hard to regulate and they put out like the Sixers are limiting. Of course you could buy like on StubHub or whatever. Like any second resale you can buy them. But if you were to go on to whatever Ticketmaster and buy the tickets, they were limiting it to only Philadelphia area.

[Noah]

But the Knicks aren't going to don't. Like, the Knicks aren't going to say that because they don't need to know.

[Fran]

They don't. But there'll be a lot of Sixers fans in the.

[Noah]

When it's so Philly.

[Ria]

New York is a game tonight at MSG during the Mechala. Yes.

[Noah]

Big night for New York.

[Fran]

Yes.

[Ria]

Timothy Xiaomi going to go to the Met Gal or the next game?

[Fran]

Shit.

[Noah]

Could he go to both? He could probably do both because Macau is probably before.

[Fran]

Can you leave? Like, are you allowed to leave the Mac?

[Ria]

I think so. I think you can leave early.

[Noah]

Yeah.

[Ria]

If there's one thing I know one sport I know nothing about, it's he's

[Fran]

listed on like the for sure attendance list, so maybe he's hidden. But here's the thing. You could go like the games. I think tip off is 8:12. It's like a very specific time. So it's like he could hit the carpet at 6:30, be in there for a little bit, and then there's. And just like moonwalk out of there, you know? Yeah.

[Ria]

In his Met Gala, if he.

[Noah]

If he showed up in his Met

[Ria]

Gala, that'd be pretty sick.

[Fran]

That would be sick. Kylie Jenner just strolls in at halftime.

[Ria]

Yeah. I do want to say the first women trainer for the Kentucky Derby did win Golden Tempo. Right to the top.

[Fran]

My God. A race.

[Ria]

What? What a race.

[Fran]

And you know what? I blame myself because I really wasn't that locked in. And I only saw one story. It was the story behind so happy with the trainer and he lost his wife suddenly. And I was like, oh. And I really. I didn't pay. I didn't pay enough attention because we're put. Everybody's putting their bets in. We're watching on. On Saturday afternoon, and Golden Tempo comes from so far behind. And then I see on the tv, it's like, first female trainer. I'm like, well, shit, I wish I knew this.

[Ria]

And they were brothers.

[Fran]

Yes. It was really cool. Really incredible. And what a great story. And I loved watching her reaction to the horse winning.

[Ria]

It was so cool. It was amazing.

[Fran]

And then I also love when you get to see them the next day and they're just, like, getting their treats.

[Ria]

Yeah, they're like.

[Fran]

Just won the Kentucky Derby. He's getting all the. All the snuggles.

[Noah]

It's funny because he's like, he doesn't know he won. What's going on?

[Ria]

No, he does.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Ria]

Come on.

[Heather McMahon]

Yeah.

[Fran]

Golden Tempo. Come on. Excuse me. Yeah, great. Like, if you put money on that horse. Great odds. Yeah, it was a. You probably won a lot of money, which is so fun. Wait, you know what was really getting me this weekend? Spirit Airlines, dude. I mean, boy, did I not think I was going to be crying about the end of Spirit Airlines this weekend.

[Ria]

But it fucked so many people who were boarding. People were boarding their flights. And then the Spirit Airlines employees had to be like, flights canceled.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Ria]

And I lost my job. It was crazy.

[Fran]

We're no longer an airline. I know. Well, the last flight landing. Did you hear the. The. The audio?

[Ria]

No.

[Fran]

Oh, I heard that the pilot coming in, he was flying into, I think it was Dallas. And it's like him between the traffic controller, he's like, smearing airlines 4250 coming in for Atlantic.

[Ria]

I was like, no, no, no. I was, oh, I can't listen to that.

[Fran]

And then there was, then there was a video of a Spirit Airlines pilot who missed his retirement flight. His last flight. Because the airline went up.

[Heather McMahon]

No.

[Fran]

And so he missed his retirement flight and he was on a Southwest flight going home. And I think he was with his son. I think his son had told the people at Southwest, like what had happened. And so when they, when they got off the plane at their destination, they had all these people lined up and all the Southwest Airlines people and they like got on to be like, we just want to give a special thank you to Spirit Airlines pilot. You know, he worked X amount of years and he missed his retirement flight. And every like, oh, another one that I was like, what the.

[Ria]

Oh, God, I'm glad these didn't hit my page.

[Fran]

Yeah, wait, I gotta find.

[Noah]

You ever fly Spirit?

[Fran]

I have once.

[Noah]

I don't think I ever.

[Ria]

We.

[Fran]

We probably have for tour Southwest honor. Spirit pilot whose retirement flight never took off due to airline shutdown.

[Ria]

Like one of those ones where we couldn't find like, I always thought it was Southwest.

[Fran]

He was coming down in Baltimore. Look at him coming off. Everybody claps for him.

[Ria]

At least Southwest honored him.

[Fran]

Yeah, exactly. I said, that's nice. I think his son maybe works for Southwest. They gave it. Look at, oh, everybody's clap. I was like, how awful. You missed your last flight.

[Ria]

You're retired.

[Noah]

I mean, what happens to all these planes?

[Fran]

Do they just like a fantastic question,

[Noah]

Wrap it with another?

[Fran]

Well, no, I think they're being, they get acquired.

[Ria]

I think like Spirit airline.

[Noah]

Is it JetBlue?

[Fran]

I think like United is.

[Ria]

Yeah. I thought it was JetBlue or United

[Fran]

because I think JetBlue's. So then he's either.

[Noah]

That's so interesting because then these planes aren't like the same planes. They're different. They're not as good. That's.

[Fran]

Yeah. Or I don't. Maybe not. But they did offer like discounted fares for people that were on Spirit.

[Noah]

Yeah, I saw like when I went on Delta app, it already was like, yeah, offering that.

[Fran]

I know. RIP. Yeah. United Airlines, it's had posted. If you're impacted by the Spirit Airline shutdown, we're here to help. We're offering price capped one way tickets for most cities where Spirit flew in case people were stranded by not being able to get on there to get on their. On their flights home. Yeah. But I was like, oh, man, that. And it, it's crazy to see it. Just like, I guess it makes sense. Like there's no right time to just stop.

[Noah]

I thought it'd be like a two weeks notice type thing.

[Fran]

Yeah. We're just like, it's over overnight. Yeah.

[Ria]

That's crazy. That is really crazy. Yeah. All right, let's get into today's topics. I really just hit you guys with it. That's crazy.

[Fran]

Yeah. Yeah, that's crazy. That's crazy.

[Ria]

Anyway, all right, let's get into today's topics. We're going to be talking about all of those summer house audio leaks from the reunion Dancing with the Stars announcements.

[Fran]

Catch up on.

[Ria]

Yeah, a lot to catch up on. Maura Higgins and Ciara Miller are joining Dancing with the Stars. Whitney Lovett is leaving Secret Lives of Mormon Wives Zoe and Harry Engagement update. We have a White Lotus casting update. We have the weekly Watch report and we have a great interview with Heather McMahon. So let's get into it.

[Fran]

You guys know skims is always changing the game with intimates. I have their sweatshirt in my hand right now, which I absolutely love. All of their sweatshirts and hoodies are so great and I wanted to show those off because, you know, can't show you the the bras and underwear. However, I'm wearing a skims bra right now. It is my go to everyday bra. It is by far my favorite. Everything that skims comes out with is just the best and the everyday cotton line is so great. I will say that I can wear my my T shirt bra. My everyday shirt bra. It is the best. I live in this bra. And they also the Skims ultimate bra. They recently came out with a one in their new cotton fabric which is so great. Has the same roundedness and iconic lift but feels even better in everyday cotton, especially under a T shirt. It couldn't get any better but skims just levels up every time with the new bras that they put out. Plus their cotton underwear is so comfortable. It's my go to. Really skims as my go to for bras and underwear. It is so great. Trust me. I have put these bras to the test and it is by far my favorite. I have tried tons of different ones in the past, but I always go back to skims so you can shop the Everyday cotton and all of our favorite bras and [e-mail] after you place your order, be sure to let them know that we sent you select podcasts in the survey and be sure to select our show in the drop down menu that follows.

[Ria]

So they recorded Summer House reunion back almost two weeks ago now. April 24th I believe they recorded it. It was. Or April 23rd.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Ria]

A Thursday or Friday. And immediately we get audio leaks. First reaction was, who in their right mind risked their job to get these leaks out?

[Fran]

My first guess automatically was like a messy hair and makeup person, you know, But Kyle kind of debunked that.

[Heather McMahon]

He did.

[Ria]

And they did confirm that it was someone in production.

[Fran]

They did confirm it was. Yeah.

[Ria]

But my thought process initially was just like, what's the reward? Right? Like, no, there's no.

[Fran]

Because you're not like selling it. You're just putting it out where it ends up like on Reddit and then goes viral.

[Ria]

Right. Like they didn't sell it to TMZ or something to get money. Like it just ended up out there. So there's no really reward to doing that. So that was the first reaction. But besides that, because Bravo put out a statement, they were doing an investigation, they ended up finding out exactly who it was, thanks to a fan of Bravo. Then there was a rumor that it was Jennifer Lawrence that helped figure it out.

[Fran]

That was wild.

[Ria]

Which was a wild rumor. But yeah, we'll move past that and talk about the leaks themselves.

[Fran]

Three of them.

[Ria]

Three.

[Fran]

They just kept coming.

[Ria]

They did. And maybe you're a better human than I if you didn't listen to the leak. But I absolutely listened to the audio leaks. Because when you hear that there. Cuz we got to wait a while for this reunion. Did I feel good about it? Like, no. No. I felt, I felt like Andy was scolding everybody online.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Ria]

For listening or sharing.

[Fran]

It was that. It was that cartoon. Did you see the Cartoo everyone was posting? It was like, forgive me, Father, I have sinned. I've listened to all three. Forgive me, Andy. Like I've listened to all three. Summer House reunion.

[Ria]

Well, listen, sue me, but I gotta listen because if they're out there, I need to listen to Hand up.

[Fran]

I listened to all of them.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Fran]

You know, here's the thing. And I was posting on my Instagram story about it and I was like, I'm not happy about it either. I don't like it. I think it takes away from the finished product. I think they record for so many hours getting like a 30 second clip out of context. See, is. Is doesn't do it for me. I actually do it for me.

[Ria]

I disagree with it taking it away because it's like we're. We're still gonna watch. We're only gonna watch more now because we want to see how this shit gets edited. Because what if they, you know, when they chop it up. Yeah, right. Obviously, this is out of context, but a lot of times it's chopped up, and then you don't get the real answers. Like, well, we got some real answers out of this, you know, So, I

[Fran]

mean, that's got to be frustrating for production. Like it is from that side of things where it's like, you do put time editing it all together, and then what's going to happen? Are you going to have people now complaining after the reunion comes out, being like, well, in the audio leak, you could hear this person say this, and you cut it out.

[Ria]

Well, I got to put everything in the audio, but it was still like, three minutes each.

[Fran]

No, I know. It's really not long at all.

[Ria]

But I feel like this did such harm to whatever is going to happen from this reunion in Amanda's case, because, well, it doesn't.

[Fran]

It. Early.

[Ria]

Early reports.

[Fran]

Early reports are, man, does it seem like she went in with the wrong attitude? Granted, once again, we only heard very limited audio. It's their short clips. But from what we did hear, it felt quite combative. And you heard no words from West?

[Ria]

Zero words from West. Words from Amanda were just, like, feisty.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Ria]

And didn't seem like there was much remorse.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Ria]

And I. The argument of like, oh, you just want me to be celibate.

[Fran]

It's like, no, no, that's not what anyone's saying. I mean, and unfortunately, she went with, like, the worst cliches ever of. Of. Of. Oh, what? What? It's like, oh, what do you want me to be? So. But no, there's not.

[Ria]

You.

[Fran]

You pick the one guy. She's like, well, as you can't help who. You like it.

[Ria]

It's you. Have you ever seen those videos where it's like when you tell your mom something and then your mom goes, well, I'm just the worst mom ever.

[Fran]

Yeah. Yep.

[Ria]

It felt like that. Which, like, you just want me to be celibate.

[Fran]

Right. It's like you. You bring up the littlest thing.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Fran]

Yeah. I do that to Joe sometimes when I'm like, if. Like, sometimes if things are, like, a little messy, and he's like, you know, I really, like, if, you know, maybe this week you could organize that part of the closet. I'm like, I'm sorry. I'm the messiest human alive. Okay.

[Ria]

Like, sorry.

[Fran]

You know, your side of the bed is kind of dirty. He's like, whoa. Like, I've noticed you haven't put your clothes away. That's the exact thing. Oh, sorry. I guess I should just be celibate then if I can't fuck Wes Wilson, right?

[Ria]

It really sounded like that.

[Fran]

It just Mia's line.

[Ria]

Oh my God. When Mia, his line when she hit her with the like, oh, just to be Wes's side chick.

[Fran]

I was like, oh, fire, yo.

[Ria]

Mia is an amazing casting.

[Fran]

She really is. I

[Ria]

really, really, I love her.

[Fran]

But I've seen this stuff with Sorry to to. It made me talk, think of the other. Have you seen the other girls kind of talking about Dara? I have.

[Ria]

I don't know.

[Fran]

She's here for fame. I, I'm very confused by this whole

[Ria]

thing because she's already had a TikTok following.

[Fran]

Yeah. Yeah. I'm like, I guess they just don't like her.

[Ria]

I don't know. Been together since the summer.

[Fran]

I mean it was Levi like doing like a Page Six thing and she was like, they were like, do you agree with what? That she's here like for the clout. And they were like, yeah.

[Ria]

Isn't everybody on, on going on reality TV there for the cloud? I don't understand who's going on reality TV at this point in time, this year of 2026 and going, man, I just want to have a good time.

[Fran]

Right. Like, and like, what else are you

[Ria]

going on reality tv?

[Fran]

I'm so confused. You don't even have the excuse of like a competition show to be like, well, I want to win money. It's like, no, no, you're, you're, you're actually just film. You want to be famous. That's it. That's the whole point of going.

[Ria]

What is the answer? Besides.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Ria]

I would love for someone to give me a rational answer.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Ria]

As to why you joined Summer House in the year of 2025. 2026. That doesn't include getting a little fame to like maybe jump start your career, business, whatever it is. Little clout.

[Fran]

Yeah, no, I, I, I agree. And it looks like KJ and Dar are like going strong. And I don't know if people like, if they like don't like that or whatever the, whatever the situation is, but there's, there's been a lot of post, there's been a lot of posts from KJ as well on about like the reunion and being upset and how things all went. And that's an interesting dynamic because it's like KJ came on the show through West.

[Ria]

Mm.

[Fran]

So I mean, I'm interested to see like if they talk at the reunion.

[Ria]

Mm.

[Fran]

It did kind of seem like the idea we got from the Cast is that perhaps west didn't give much.

[Ria]

Yeah. Kyle said that he was like, he's all about PR and da, da, da. And he barely. I can't recall a time where he had Amanda's back.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Ria]

There was a wild story that came out that allegedly Wes's cousin murdered their grandma, which was a shocking thing to read on the timeline during this because you.

[Fran]

Shocking headlines.

[Ria]

Shocking because I think people are wondering,

[Fran]

okay, was it not really awful?

[Ria]

It's. It's terrible. And it's like, was this before the reunion? Was it after the reunion?

[Fran]

Allegedly before.

[Ria]

So it's just that what I was really.

[Fran]

But it's like we don't know the details of him finding it out or whatever. But from what the article has said, it was like, that it actually happened like the day before.

[Ria]

So nuts.

[Fran]

You don't know what you know. You don't know where his. What his headspace was like and what he knew or didn't know or whatever going into that. So that. I mean, that's gut wrenching that you. I guess when I read that headline, it was. Are you, like, what?

[Ria]

Absolutely. Like.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Ria]

Stunning, insane headline.

[Fran]

Really? Really? That's. That's really dark.

[Ria]

Yeah. We will have to wait a little bit now to get to the reunion. I think probably May 26th or. Yeah, whatever it is. I'm looking at the calendar now. I think May 26th.

[Fran]

I saw people break it down.

[Ria]

Yeah. I think that part one will be on May 26th.

[Fran]

One, two. Yeah, for sure. Because the finale is the 19th.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Fran]

Because the in the City premiere is the 19th.

[Ria]

Right, right after the finale. Yeah.

[Fran]

So they apparently. They picked up cameras.

[Ria]

They picked up cameras. Film about Amanda and West for in the City.

[Fran]

Smart.

[Ria]

So we shall see. We shall see. But yeah, those audio leaks hitting hitting the Internet, people were going nuts. Yeah. Because they did not sound good. No, they did not sound good. But on the topic, Ciara will be on Dancing with the Stars. Huge. Absolutely huge news. Along with Maura Higgins, two of the hottest women to ever be on reality TV on one side of Dancing with the Stars. Like, that's almost unfair. This season could be unwatchable. If Rob joins. We got a big problem on our hands.

[Fran]

It's the hottest season ever.

[Ria]

It will be, like, legitimately mixed with

[Fran]

the fact that the pros are already hot, too.

[Ria]

Like, everyone's smoking hot.

[Fran]

Smoking hot season.

[Ria]

Yeah. It's insane.

[Fran]

It's a hottie season.

[Ria]

Like, it's crazy. But this. This casting is so good. Both of them, I think, will be amazing. I think that they will both offer something new and different in their own right. So I think that will be amazing as well.

[Fran]

I saw TikTok about this and I like, you know, I kind of hesitate to even bring it up because I really do love. I really do love Maura. And it's like this was in my opinion, not on her at all. But it is interesting. Cause it's like in the UK she kind of had a massive scandal.

[Ria]

She did.

[Fran]

And then she came over here and we had traders and out like. And like we all. We just love her and. And everybody here like loves her. And it's way less known of what went down with. I guess she was caught like kissing a. One of the guys from McFly.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Fran]

After the Brits. Or it was some award show. I'm not. I'm not sure what exact award show it was. And he's married.

[Ria]

Yeah. I think she had like addressed it or cleared it up at some point, but I don't know what happened there.

[Fran]

Right. It's also like we don't fully know the details of that. And by the way, like, for me, I 100 like, well, that's on that guy for who knows what could. He knows what he was saying. Like we're separated.

[Ria]

Yeah. He could have been telling more. They're separated.

[Fran]

Exactly. So. But that really blew up over there. And I saw it was funny because it came a girl on Tick Tock. Like it was. She was going viral. It came up on my for you page of like her like, you know, kind of crazy that she's like the people's princess in. In the US Right now when it was not. Not looking so good. Well, for a little bit of time.

[Ria]

Well, she said, I'll just go do all the US Shows.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Ria]

And make everyone love me.

[Fran]

You know what? Fuck yeah. Because she manifested this. I loved her saying that she had Dancing with the Stars all over her, you know, 2026 vision board and really wanted to do it. And I think maybe the casting director or team or something is similar for Traders. I don't know if that's. If I'm making that up.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Fran]

Different networks, but I like that they're different networks, but I think maybe the same woman like does a lot of these shows and she was such a star on Traders. So I think obviously it makes sense for her to be on Dancing with the Stars and. And Sierra as well. Like that's. That's no brainer. No brainer.

[Ria]

But.

[Fran]

And it's a no brainer to have these ones be the Ones like that are announced first, like, early announcements.

[Ria]

You better keep them away from Gleb, though. I don't want to see. Because first of all, I know Ciara will not fall into the Gleb trap.

[Fran]

Yeah. I don't know if they're gonna see.

[Ria]

I could see a world where they, like, maybe Mora, like, flirts with Gleb because she has that, like, flirty, flirtatious personality. No, no, no.

[Fran]

I. She's been saying she wants to. To dance with Mark, which I don't blame her. Like, she knows Mark already, of course, from Traders. And if Mark comes back for another season, that would be an amazing pairing.

[Ria]

I don't.

[Fran]

I think Glenn might. I feel like gloves kind of getting the push out.

[Ria]

That's fine.

[Fran]

From, you know, in general, which I'm absolutely fine with as well. And now they're doing all these things, like bringing in. You know, Robert Irwin's doing this show to bring in a new. A new pro.

[Ria]

So. True.

[Fran]

They did the whole Get Real Hulu event while we were away was like, right when we were leaving, which, like a lot of big announcements and things coming out from. From Hulu Unscripted. It looks like such a fun event. I hope we do get. We did get invited to go. And I wish, you know, the timing was. Was different. We were able to go, but we weren't able to. But I loved seeing all the updates and seeing all the people and the new shows that are coming and fun stuff that's going on. They did announce that they're doing a Mafias Mafia. They are like Hulu's version of traitors, basically. And they announced the cast, and it's really quite the cast. It's really quite the cast. I can't believe that. I mean, what's. What is her name from Sopranos? The sister. Janice.

[Ria]

Janice.

[Fran]

Janice is on who. Who is Kelly Key's best friend from

[Ria]

Sitting on a plane with Kelly.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Ria]

So funny. I. Oh, my God. I meant to text Kelly about that.

[Fran]

Right. And she is. And she is on this cast. Oh, it's called the Mob.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Fran]

And it's host. Gonna be hosted by Parker Posey. And it really, like, it's got really quite the cast. You got Demi for Mormon Wives, Maria's doing it, Joe Gorga, Harry, Josie, Chelsea from Selling Sunset, Willem Belly, RuPaul, Debbie Mazur Younger, Bella park from Love Overboard, Shane from Bat. I. I knew they were gonna find something else for Shane because I think that. I think ABC really liked Shane from Taylor season. And they were, like, worried I Think they now no one got to see him. So it's like, we'll put him on a different show. So he got on this show. Romeo. Haven't seen him in a while. Bruno dancing with a son.

[Ria]

Bruno shocked me.

[Fran]

And. And her name's Ada.

[Ria]

Ida. Ida Ada Ada Turturro SOPRANO the most shocking person on that cast to me was Bruno.

[Fran]

I. You know what? I feel like some of these people just got sold. Like, they just heard Italy and they were like, sold.

[Ria]

So, yeah, we'll go, fine. Fine by me.

[Fran]

You know, and they're like, okay, great. It's inspired by classic mafia movies. I think this is going to be very, very interesting. They're going to be living in a lavish Italian villa, and they're going to be able to fight their way to win up to $250,000 in cash prizes. So already that's more than. Than traitors.

[Ria]

That's true. So while we're on casting news, Whitney Levitt announced during Chicago that she will be leaving the Secret Lives of Morbid Wives. Epic way to announce it.

[Fran]

Last show. I'm probably being like, by the way, that reality show not coming back makes sense. It does make sense.

[Ria]

Her time was up. She's moved on to bigger things.

[Fran]

Connor's doing off Broadway.

[Ria]

He is. I said, you know what? Good for this family.

[Fran]

Couldn't be happier for those two.

[Ria]

They're thriving all over the place.

[Fran]

I saw that announcement. They got the dirty soda and the Sid. It seems like they're put them on in the city. Right.

[Ria]

Let's get a crossover going.

[Fran]

You know what would actually be so interesting? And I'm shocked they really haven't done it because the theater kids have the best drama.

[Ria]

They do.

[Fran]

The theater kids really have the best drama. Very dramatic. I know. And the fact that there hasn't been like a Young Stars of Broadway reality show.

[Ria]

Wow, that's a really good idea. You think?

[Fran]

Really shocking to me.

[Ria]

It sounds like you're pitching it right

[Fran]

now, but I kind of am. And I'm. It's really just coming into my brain right now. You know what really has made me think of it? The fact that this guy, Derek Klena, I've been getting him all over my TikTok because you know what he did? He's been on Broadway for years. He's a star. He's extremely handsome, and he's a real life Troy Bolton because you know where he is now? The Savannah Bananas.

[Ria]

Wow.

[Fran]

And he's. He played baseball growing up. I saw this guy, and he's singing Broadway, too.

[Ria]

Yes.

[Fran]

And it is breathtaking performances on the fucking baseball field.

[Ria]

I saw this guy because he said that he loved High School Musical and Taylor Swift.

[Fran]

And this man is actually really Troy Bolton because he's out here pitching, like, pretty well.

[Ria]

Well, he's. He's like Ryan.

[Fran]

Yeah, yeah.

[Ria]

Ryan loves.

[Fran]

Hey batta badda hey batta batta swing. Everything comes back to High School Musical.

[Heather McMahon]

It really does.

[Ria]

A couple of High School Musical references this episode.

[Fran]

And he's an extremely handsome man. Like, he's just a classic, you know, he's just chiseled. He's chiseled. Classically handsome guy. And I thought I immediately had to Google him because I was like, oh, my God, he's been in it. He's been in a million shows. He is so talented. And then now he's on Savannah Bananas. And of course, because of the TikTok crowd, it's like the comments. Everybody is dying over this guy. And I thought, man, what. How interesting would it be to have these people on some sort of reality TV show of being on Broadway or other ventures that they're trying to do or trying to. Trying to make it on Broadway? We've seen plenty of other people on reality shows that go on different shows that are like, oh, I've been, you know, I'm trying to be on Broadway, been in New York for years, auditioning, the whole thing. But what about the people who are just, you know, they just get on. It's a drama. I'm sure they're all hooking up with each other.

[Ria]

It is a really good idea.

[Fran]

You know, Cross, just think about the Hugh Jackman and Sutton Foster of it all. They're whispering the whispers backstage.

[Ria]

So true.

[Fran]

They love the gossip. I think that would be a great idea for. It is a good idea for a show.

[Ria]

I love that.

[Fran]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Ria]

While we're still talking about casting, Helena Bonham Carter left White Lotus. Yeah. And Laura Dern. Laura Dern in Now. Laura Dern did not replace Helena Bonacarta's role. They just completely wrote a different role for Laura Dern.

[Fran]

Makes sense.

[Ria]

So.

[Fran]

And you do that for Laura Dern.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Fran]

Right.

[Ria]

You're not gonna just, like, put her into somebody else's role. Don't know what happened with Helena's role. Seemed like it just wasn't working.

[Fran]

Yeah. What it said, like, creative differences.

[Ria]

Yeah, it wasn't working. She got the boot. Laura Dernan, which is such a phenomenal casting because she has talked about wanting to be in White Lotus before, and she. I can't Think of a more perfect person to be in the White Lotus. So I am just. I got chills. I had chills. I went to the White Lotus Hotel. Well, they filmed in multiple spots, but one of them we went to for cocktails and light bites.

[Fran]

Yes.

[Ria]

And my mom stole multiple spoons. Okay. And I didn't know. And she knocks her bag over and all the spoons come flying out onto the floor. I said, mom, you took the spoons? She said, yeah, I took those. They're nice. They're nice espresso spoons.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Ria]

This woman left with multiple spoons from this hotel.

[Fran]

It tells me that she didn't just take what, like one.

[Ria]

She told.

[Fran]

It was like multiple.

[Ria]

And then. Can I tell you this?

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Ria]

I got a picture this morning sent in our Italy group chat.

[Fran]

She's using the spoon with her coffee

[Ria]

of two cappuccino cups with the lids. She goes, I took them for you and Matt, the two of them. When you had cappuccinos in our room. She took the two cappuccino cups that we had in their room one day.

[Heather McMahon]

Yeah.

[Ria]

And took them home with her. And then my mother in law said, let me know if you need two of the spoons that she stole. I said, what the hell? I'm whispering about it because I'm afraid. I said, what?

[Fran]

Everyone gets a spoon?

[Ria]

Matt told me that everyone gets a spoon. One lunch, I went to the bathroom and she put a plate in her shirt.

[Noah]

Listen, I'm all about stealing things from restaurants.

[Fran]

I think here's the thing for a little. A silver, like a nice.

[Noah]

A glass.

[Fran]

I took a coaster, a plate. She put a.

[Noah]

If it's a nice plate with the

[Ria]

restaurant name on it, the plate is harder to. Harder to walk out, apparently. She put a full plate in her shirt when I went to the bathroom. Cause she thought that I'd be in her shirt. And my dad looked at her and said, stop it. And then she took it out from her shirt and then used it to eat on after. I understand. A little spoon.

[Fran]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Ria]

And then my dad goes, I don't think she realizes that. I'm pretty sure the hotel charged for those cups that she stole.

[Fran]

I'm. I'm sure, like, because they. Were they already in the room?

[Ria]

No, they were brought to the room because we ordered up cappuccinos.

[Fran]

Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh. I'm sure they take inventory.

[Ria]

And they're like.

[Fran]

When they take the room service stuff away, they're like, well, they're.

[Ria]

Well, there's two cappuccino cups missing and they're not here. Yeah.

[Fran]

So, yeah, put that on the bill.

[Ria]

When they check out, I'm like, when. When the bag fell over and multiple spoons fell out onto the floor of

[Fran]

the white little cocktail bar, I was

[Ria]

like, oh, my God.

[Heather McMahon]

Who knew you even did that?

[Fran]

You're like, you're not getting through a metal detector with those.

[Ria]

Actually, I'm almost. I don't even know if I'm mad or impressed that I didn't even realize when you put those in your bag.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Ria]

We've been sitting here this whole time.

[Fran]

That's.

[Ria]

But it was really cool to see some of the spots that they filmed at. I'm a. You know, like Noah was saying, going to. I'm a sucker for that stuff. Yeah. You know, the Godfather location, like, even

[Noah]

when we went to Portobello Road, it's like we went to the bookstore.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Ria]

Yeah, it was.

[Fran]

I agree.

[Ria]

It was. It was really cool.

[Fran]

But I just, like, so funny. He's.

[Ria]

Spoons doesn't even say four season on the spoons. Yeah, she. Normal spoons. She's like, we always remember. You always remember that these came from there. Like, that's a good point.

[Fran]

Yeah. She's not wrong. But no, Laura Dern's a fantastic cast for White Load casting for White Lotus. I'm sad because I was really excited for Helena, but, you know, sometimes two eclectic people just don't mesh. And that has nothing. Like, it's nothing against either of them, in my mind. Like, it's not like one of them being a problem or whatever. It's just like the two of them feel.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Fran]

A little. A little cuckoo chew in good ways.

[Ria]

Right.

[Fran]

And perhaps they just. They weren't. They just weren't agreeing on the vision for what this character was. And Mike White said, well, I will just write you out of this.

[Ria]

Speaking of Survivor, Mike White, Survivor. One of the best episodes of Survivor ever. Ooh. We'll talk about that when we get to the point. Before we get there, one last topic. An update for Zoe Kravitz and Harry Styles. Allegedly, they are engaged. People magazine reported it. Other sources reported she has been consistently wearing that ring. Silly. Flaunting that ring, knowing that she's walking

[Fran]

around with her left hand out. Like she's waving with her left hand.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Fran]

Have you seen Channing Tatum's Instagram posts?

[Ria]

No, but I've been quoted multiple times now about this engagement, so I just want to make a note of that. In the New York Times, I was quoted saying, it's Hollywood Babe.

[Fran]

It's Hollywood babe.

[Ria]

About there. Then on the View.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Ria]

Once again, played the full. They played the full clip. It's Hollywood babe. And we're going to trademark that because

[Noah]

you got to make some merch.

[Fran]

Eight months, you know, that's all it takes. And they seem very, very happy.

[Ria]

I didn't see Channing teams post, though. What's going on? Isn't he dating somebody new?

[Fran]

Yeah, yeah, but he's kind of posting like sad boy Instagram stories.

[Ria]

You know, I kind of feel bad now because Matt did bring up to me. He's like, did I see Channing Tatums, like, been kind of postings? I was like, no, I haven't seen that.

[Noah]

Shut up, Marty.

[Ria]

Not like that. But I just like, I haven't seen that.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Ria]

What are you talking about? And now I. Now I'm realizing, you know what you're talking about, Matt, you pop culture. Like, I do.

[Fran]

There was one post that I'm. And I'm not going to be able to find it, but there was one post. I think there's been multiple since. But the one that I really saw was after kind of like after the news came out that it seemed confirmed.

[Ria]

I am so hungry because it's about dinner time. Where I was.

[Fran]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Ria]

Right.

[Fran]

What is it?

[Ria]

It's.

[Noah]

Yeah. Seven. It'll be seven.

[Fran]

He's sharing poems on his Instagram story about how my brain and heart divorced.

[Ria]

Oh, wow.

[Noah]

Is this always second or third engagement?

[Ria]

This is her third.

[Fran]

Third.

[Ria]

I think she was married at one point.

[Fran]

She was married first.

[Noah]

Really?

[Ria]

She was married, then engaged to Channing and now engaged again. So this will be her third.

[Noah]

Wait, who is she married to? Nobody.

[Ria]

No, that's a good question. And it feels like kind of wrong

[Noah]

that Zoe Kravitz, Carl Glusman. Oh, that's pretty recent.

[Fran]

Yeah, they got divorced, like, not that long ago.

[Noah]

Oh, I don't know him from.

[Fran]

I think he's an actor.

[Noah]

The running. He is an actor. The running man.

[Fran]

Oh. They got divorced in 20. They were married for two years. 2019 to 2021.

[Ria]

Because people always reference her wedding dress and where she looks like a child.

[Fran]

You know how some people look at, like, they love to compare all Lady Gaga's engagement rings because she's had some spectacular ones. I saw one of Zoe's, like, all three rings together. Gorgeous rings.

[Ria]

This one's a little similar to her enchantings.

[Fran]

Yeah, it is.

[Ria]

But if you have a ring, you

[Fran]

know, if you got a style and if you're like, I really, like, she still.

[Ria]

I really like that ring.

[Fran]

Like, that ring. The relationship, wasn't it? Right. But I really like the ring.

[Noah]

Do you keep the ring?

[Fran]

Let's just workshop it a little bit.

[Ria]

I don't know how that works.

[Fran]

I. It's. I don't know. It's Hollywood, babe. I don't know what they do.

[Ria]

Right.

[Fran]

Like, I just.

[Ria]

Like, normal rules don't apply there.

[Fran]

I would assume even with, like.

[Noah]

Even do with it.

[Fran]

I think most sell it. I think most people wear it.

[Noah]

On your other hand.

[Fran]

I. They just talked about this on the Valley, actually the. One of the last episodes. Because Michelle, who's dating Dr. Dre, by the way.

[Ria]

Oh, yeah. Yeah. That happened. There are pictures of them. Yep.

[Fran]

Holding hands. And TMZ or somebody caught Jesse Lally and he was like, I don't think Michelle has ever listened to.

[Ria]

Maybe Dr. Dre likes that. Then.

[Fran]

I don't know how that. I don't know how the fuck that happened. But that is incredible. She, I guess, was just. They went to the jeweler, you know, the guy they always go to over there and. No, she know the one that they got. The jeweler that all the Vanderpump people go to. He's always on the show. Whatever. This is the guy, I guess Lala made something out of her ring. Maybe a necklace or something. And Michelle was like, I'm finally able to, like, look at my engagement ring again. She thought about selling it, but then thought perhaps it would be nice to keep and eventually could give to her daughter something that could be passed down despite her and Jesse not being together anymore. So they were turning it into a necklace.

[Ria]

Gotcha. Okay. Turning it into a necklace.

[Fran]

Yeah. Which can be repurposed in some way. I don't know. When you're someone like Zoe Kravitz, what exactly you do with them once you hit three?

[Ria]

I don't.

[Fran]

I'm like. Like, give them back. I don't know. I think you're just. Because it's not like she needs to. It's not like she needs.

[Ria]

No. Right. You just give it back to the person who.

[Fran]

Right.

[Ria]

Bought it.

[Fran]

But then I also think maybe you just keep them.

[Ria]

Right.

[Fran]

Just keep them.

[Ria]

Put them in a memory box.

[Fran]

Yeah. And down the line you can turn it into something else. Right.

[Ria]

That's true.

[Fran]

Or use it for something else.

[Ria]

Or Depends, I think, like, where. Where do you guys fall? You know what I mean? When you. When you end the engagement.

[Fran]

It also depends on, like, what. What relationship you're in next. You know? I wouldn't think that a lot of guys, like, you're wearing your engagement ring, diamond as a necklace, you're married to a new guy. I'd be like, maybe put that. Maybe save that one.

[Ria]

Yeah. Like, put that one.

[Fran]

That's fair. You can pass that down to your children or whatever, and they can do with it as they please.

[Ria]

But I wouldn't prefer you to be wearing it.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Noah]

This is Channing's ring. This is now going to pass this down to you.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Heather McMahon]

Right.

[Ria]

My second engagement.

[Fran]

Right. But they look. Rumor has it they're happy as clams, those two. They're just.

[Ria]

That makes me so happy.

[Noah]

He's gonna go Taylor Swift's wedding.

[Ria]

I'm. I am really thinking about that. Like, will Harry Styles be a Taylor Swift's wedding as Zoe Kravitz?

[Fran]

Yeah, I'd imagine so. I don't think Taylor gives a flying anymore now.

[Ria]

No, No, I don't think she does.

[Fran]

There was, like, question marks on if Zoe was even invited. There's. There was, like, rumors of some riff.

[Ria]

Well, I feel like they're saying that because she's with Harry.

[Fran]

Right, right. It's just like. They're just like, oh, because of Harry. They must not be.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Fran]

I don't think. I don't know. I'd imagine she's.

[Noah]

Maybe she'll decline or make up an excuse. No. To avoid any awkwardness.

[Ria]

No, no.

[Fran]

Ruben's moving his party.

[Noah]

I saw that.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Noah]

I mean, yeah.

[Fran]

Probably half the invite list is going to this wedding.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Noah]

He's probably pissed. Like, my. That's. My event's not the most event of the week now.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Fran]

Just further solidifies that being the.

[Noah]

You said before. Because now it's like a pregame for Taylor's wedding. And everyone who's not invited to Taylor's wedding at that party is, like, not cool.

[Fran]

Well, so you go to Taylor's wedding, and then you. Then you just go out to the Hamptons. Easy.

[Noah]

Yeah.

[Ria]

Well, no, it's the. It's the Wednesday before the wedding.

[Fran]

The party.

[Ria]

The party, I think is the.

[Fran]

Oh, they moved it up.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Fran]

And not later.

[Ria]

No. Yeah.

[Noah]

All the people at the party.

[Ria]

Okay.

[Fran]

So other way around, they go to the party.

[Noah]

Oh, you're not.

[Ria]

Yeah, yeah. It'll be talk a party.

[Fran]

It will. Oh, you guys going to the wedding. Imagine people going, oh, who's Travis and Taylor?

[Ria]

Oh, awkward. Ooh. Ooh. You didn't get the invite.

[Fran]

You're, like, looking LeBron James in the. Oh, you didn't get. You didn't catch that one. Travis didn't. Travis didn't invite you. Yikes.

[Ria]

Must not be that close.

[Fran]

Yeah, yeah, I'll be there.

[Ria]

All right, that wraps up today's topics. Foreign we're about to get into a great weekly watch report presented by Pepsi prebiotic cola. Right now in studio, we are stacked with Pepsi probiotic cola. We got the original cola flavor and cherry vanilla. Both are absolutely delicious. And it's so exciting when I get my lunch at work and I crack open a nice Pepsi prebiotic Cola. It is 30 calories and 3 grams of prebiotic fiber and only 5 grams of sugar. It is a perfect pick me up whether it's for lunch. You go home, you sit on the couch, you want to crack one open. And it comes in two flavors, the cola and original cola and cherry vanilla. So you can try it out. It's available today. All right, let's get into the weekly watch report where we talk about things we watch this week. A weekly watch report on Monday. Weekly watch report on Monday. Weekly watch report on Monday. Weekly watch report on Monday. So I've been watching Survivor week to week and I realized I had forgotten to bring it up the past couple weeks that we had weekly watch report. But this has been an a season. This is a solid ass season. This past episode a plus. This episode was fucking fantastic.

[Fran]

I saw this some social did I.

[Ria]

Did I want to like it because it involved Mr. Beast heavily? No, I wanted to be very annoyed about the gimmick of Mr. Beast, but let me tell you, it worked. It added quite the element to the show. This episode was so damn good. So many twists and turns. You don't know what's gonna happen. I also love the auction on Survivor. Like when they could auction up money to get some food or whatever. It's just like so satisfying to see them or like get a toothbrush and toothpaste or a blanket. You know, like the little things.

[Fran]

It's the little things. I'm nodding like I know what you're talking about. I don't, but it's one of my

[Ria]

favorite things in Survivor. But it is. It just was an awesome episode with so many twists. Mrbeast came in with the Beware Mr. Beast. I was like, what the fuck is this gimmick? Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, it was quite better than the

[Fran]

Zac Brown band gimmick.

[Ria]

Oh, my God. So much better because what they had was a coin flip and if it landed on heads, they had a million dollars to the pot from Mr. Beast making the prize $2 million. And the person who flipped the coin gets immunity and, you know, safe that night as well. And they had to decide amongst the group of who was gonna flip the coin, because then if it landed on the other one, they'd be going home and no million dollars added to the pot. So that was just. But they. It landed on heads, which is what they called, and got the million dollars added to the pot. He got immunity. Everyone wanted him to go home, so it was like the person.

[Fran]

They wanted to go home because we were like, it's a 50.

[Ria]

50 chance of him going home, ends up getting immunity. Immunity and a million dollars add to the pot.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Ria]

Which.

[Fran]

That's a good thing.

[Ria]

So then, yeah. So everyone's like, all right, well, he got a million dollars.

[Fran]

We still have to deal with him. But, yeah, it's a big addition. There's been a lot of money.

[Ria]

I was fine with. With who went home. I wanted her to go home. I did not want Devin's to go home. I wanted Steph to go home. Love, Rizzo. Rizzo is such a great addition to this show because he is a super fan. He imagine Tommy smokes being on the show. That's Rizzo. He is literally him. It's kind of weird how similar they are. And apparently he is a big barstool fan, so that's funny too. But he's, like, a humongous Survivor super fan.

[Fran]

So, like, how many seasons has he been on?

[Ria]

Just one other.

[Fran]

Oh, just one other.

[Ria]

He's, like, in his 20s. Like, he's young.

[Fran]

Oh, he's young.

[Ria]

Okay. Yeah. So he. I think he's in his 20s, but he's young, and he's just everything. Tommy wishes, you know, it. He could be. And he, like, even they kind of look like it's really weird. But he is such a super fan, so his commentary is so funny during the show because he's just happy for everything that happens. Like, he's like, this is monumental. Like, this is history. Like, everything that's happening. And he's playing such a good game because they kind of just look at him like, oh, he's a super fan. Like, he, like, sucks up to us, but he just keeps getting further and further. So it.

[Fran]

This.

[Ria]

This season is so damn good. And episode was an A plus episode before they had a twist where Christian, who I love on this show and was rooting for because he's so funny, had to vote himself. He lost and had to vote for himself. And so everyone took the easy way out and said, we're just.

[Fran]

We're just voting for him. Got to vote for.

[Ria]

Yeah, he's got to vote himself. We know where he's voting. We can just all vote him out. So he unfortunately had to go. So it's just been a damn good season. So a plus for Survivor Summer House. This episode was a B. Yeah.

[Fran]

Let me tell you. We. And we talked about this for a second on our own. But like, I know at this point we've talked about it ad nauseam. Seeing it back. Sierra is so clearly hung up on him still. And. And these long hugs, these long prolonged hugs that they're having these moments and you're like, what is happening? And. And I. West, I think, is managing it really poorly because I think he in his gut wants to be more hesitant, but he wants to please Sierra. Like he wants Sierra to be happy. So I think he's kind of feeding her like what she wants to hear and like, oh, we friends, the whole thing, whatever. And Sabrina's in here making them go on some double date. I'm like, well, Sabrina, please.

[Ria]

Right. That. And then west in his confessionals is like, I don't want to do that. Like, da, da da. And but then agrees to it. It's like, yeah, but then you're kind of talking shit in the confessional, which I didn't like. But crazy for them to even suggest like a double date situation like that in the first place.

[Fran]

She's really throwing herself in the mix more than I would like. Sabrina. Yeah, I mean, I.

[Ria]

She's fine to. It makes it interesting. You know what I mean? Like, I guess. But I feel like you can see Ciara getting really happy.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Ria]

And it's like a reflection of where she stands with west and it makes sense. I mean, she's talked about him, but she also said like, I think he's my person. Which I was like, oh, no, that killed me. No. And then Amanda's reaction, it's all weird. It's so fucking bizarre when she finds out they're going to get drinks after and she just has this. This, you know, visceral reaction.

[Fran]

Right.

[Ria]

And then it's like, well, Wes better be careful.

[Fran]

Yeah. And because it's. It seems like it's coming from a place of wanting to protect Sierra. So it's just like, when did that change?

[Ria]

Right?

[Fran]

Like, when did you start to look at Wes and think, huh, I'd hit that. Like, like, when did it change?

[Ria]

I gotta be honest, I just. Everything now, I just don't. I just.

[Fran]

I know I was like, even Carl's

[Ria]

mom, like, being like, whit and west being like, so buddy buddy with Carl's mom. I'm just like, do you do this with everybody? Even Carl, even the mothers. Like, he's just like a suck up.

[Noah]

Yeah.

[Ria]

Yeah, right.

[Fran]

You know what?

[Ria]

It's just like, why do you gotta be that touchy and suck it up to everybody that much?

[Fran]

I think that's just clear. Let's. That's just always how he's been.

[Ria]

I guess I don't trust people like that.

[Fran]

It's like, right? If you're. If you're giving it out to everybody, you're giving it to everybody.

[Ria]

A friend to all is a friend to none, they say.

[Fran]

Yeah, that is what they say. The conversation between Lindsay and Carl's mom, like, I wanted to crawl out of my skin.

[Ria]

That was. Yeah. Uncomfortable.

[Fran]

Couldn't have been more uncomfortable. I. You know what? At one point I'm like, okay, Lindsay, but, like, I get why you're. Why you're upset and, like, being sassy. The other point, the other side of me is just like, it's his mom. Like, just fake be nice and walk away, you know? Oh, good to see you. Like, like, she had to, like, oh, she's mean like me. Like, it's like, okay, I. You guys didn't have a great breakup. And I do. I think Lindsay was getting a lot of the. I think a lot of people were on Lindsay's side in the breakup scenario with, like, him breaking, like, the last minute and all these things and Lindsay being blindsided. But now we've gotten to the point that I feel like Carl's getting his act together. He's opening his bar. And her. Her side comments in her interviews, I was like, oh, she was, like, getting ready to go get a $20 juice. I'm like, oh, my God. So sad because he was so excited and, like, he was so happy. And you see him post. He actually posted on a story, I think, this morning that the little teddy bear that Lindsay got is still, like, on the wall and inside in softbar. Sidebar. Rip, rip, rip. I miss you every day.

[Ria]

Every Sunday.

[Fran]

Every Sunday I cry about you. No. And, like, seeing, like, seeing the sass of her walking in, like, whatever they were. I really wish I could use a cocktail right now. Like, all these things. I'm like, there's no need to be sad. He's like, oh, he finally did two years later.

[Ria]

I know it takes a while to open a place up.

[Fran]

Seriously.

[Ria]

Yeah. I didn't like that because I felt like Carl was so nice in his confessionals and hers were just so shady.

[Fran]

So shady.

[Ria]

Nice that she went. But still unnecessary confessionals. And you're right. With the mom, it's just say hi, say goodbye, give a hug, move on. Who cares?

[Fran]

Like, look her in the eye. Like they shouldn't even look at her.

[Ria]

It was.

[Fran]

They were. They were talking to each other like this. Like I'm locking to you. She talking like this. Yeah, I guess.

[Ria]

And she said that it was a weird text from his mom, which I didn't think the text was weird.

[Fran]

I didn't think it was that weird either. Maybe just cause it was like late.

[Ria]

Right. But I mean, at what point when is it okay? Just never talk again. I agree. I agree. Some sort of text. I agree. So I would give Summer House a B. I didn't really watch much else, to be honest.

[Fran]

Same

[Ria]

on the plane home. They had Wuthering Heights on Delta.

[Fran]

Oh.

[Ria]

I put it on for two minutes. I said, what in the world did I think I was ever gonna read this book?

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Ria]

Fair.

[Fran]

So fair. Like, this isn't so. You know what? But it was nice because everyone let you have it. Like, everyone was like, go ahead.

[Ria]

It was like winter when I talked about that. Yeah.

[Noah]

Speaking of books, what did you guys think of that Verity trailer?

[Fran]

It looks great.

[Ria]

It looked great. I woke up to a friend tag me was, I can't wait to see. We better see it together.

[Fran]

Oh, no, we 100% going with you too.

[Noah]

I'm excited to see it now too.

[Fran]

I could not be farther behind in everything I want to see. I haven't been to the movies at all forever. There are so many movies I wanted to see. I still never saw Project Hail Mary and I. And now Devil Week.

[Ria]

You could have seen Project Hail Mary.

[Fran]

I know, but you're not going to the movies in Florida.

[Noah]

Why?

[Ria]

Why? A day at the beach all day, and then you'd shower and go to the movies.

[Fran]

I love that you.

[Noah]

That's one you got to see in the theaters too.

[Fran]

And I don't know, no one would go with me. I didn't want to go by myself.

[Ria]

That's true.

[Fran]

My mom wanted to go see Devil Wars Prada, but that point, it was like too late. And Sunday, it was actually raining. Sunday was the only day it rained. And it was like, totally sold out. There was no tickets really to go see it, but I did. I do really want to see it.

[Ria]

You got to see the drama.

[Fran]

There's so much I want to see. It's actually insane.

[Ria]

Yeah, well, I shut it off within three minutes.

[Fran]

Did you see the drama?

[Ria]

Yes, we talked about it. You did?

[Fran]

Oh, you did. You did.

[Ria]

You did. Right before we left. We talked about it.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Ria]

But I rewatched Marty Supreme.

[Fran]

Yeah. You love that movie.

[Ria]

I liked it less.

[Fran]

Oh.

[Ria]

Watching it.

[Fran]

I take it back.

[Ria]

I. I still like it.

[Fran]

This was the second or third time you watched it?

[Ria]

No.

[Fran]

Oh, this is only the second.

[Noah]

Maybe I liked it less when I rewatched it too, but I just feel like most movies are like that. Like, it's never gonna hit.

[Fran]

Yeah, it doesn't hit as hard.

[Ria]

Well, anyways, the third.

[Fran]

Maybe if this is my third watch,

[Ria]

it didn't hit Fair. Fair as the first time we saw it.

[Noah]

Also, the first time we saw. We were at the premiere.

[Ria]

Right. I think there's a lot.

[Fran]

Chalamet was there. Yeah.

[Ria]

Right. And we knew he was in the presence, which. Which really helped. And

[Fran]

a lot of the.

[Ria]

I brought my iPad, but we didn't really ever turn it on.

[Fran]

And that's where we never really. Like, I was reaching for my book and not, like, watching tv.

[Ria]

It was never a point where I was like, let's watch some tv.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Ria]

And anytime we turned on, like, at night, the tv, it was all in Italian. One time they were playing Scarface in English.

[Fran]

Nice.

[Ria]

So that was a treat. Yeah. But. But no, I didn't watch anything else. I have a ton to catch up on.

[Fran]

Literally.

[Ria]

Got home on Sunday. Watch those two episodes of Survivor. Yeah. Summer House fell asleep.

[Fran]

I know, that's. And honestly, with, like, the basketball being on, I. That also went into my potential movie night times. Like, is that my dad be like,

[Ria]

oh, well, I want to.

[Fran]

We watch a game.

[Ria]

Very fair.

[Fran]

So, yeah, not a lot of TV for me either. I'll give Summer House. I'll give summer as a B.

[Ria]

Okay, guys, it's grit week. This is the part of the football calendar where nobody's watching, but everything gets built. Early mornings, pads back on conditioning, film reps. Spring training in football is all about putting in the work when nobody's cheering yet. And honestly, that's the same mindset behind the Chevy Silverado. This is a truck that is the definition of grit. Long days, dirty work, and showing up day after day, no matter the conditions. Strong, dependable, and built for the grind. Because grit isn't about being flashy. It's about being ready when it's time to go. Check out the current offers and build your [e-mail]. that's Silverado. All grit, no quit. And you can build your [e-mail]. today,

[Fran]

weirdly, like I've just been downloading stuff on Peacock on my iPad for the. For the planes. And that's like the only time I've watched TV in the last week. And I just been catching up on. On Chicago. On Chicago shows because we're approaching the end of the seasons. We're like episode 19. Like normally it's what, 22, 23 episodes. The summer break is summer breaks coming up and there's some big stuff happen on Chicago Fire. This new captain's coming for several ride and I don't know what's going to happen. So I'm. That's where I'm locked in. Fire has me locked in the other two, not as much. So I'll give Fire a B and MED&PD as see a C and I'm. I'm caught up on all of them. Is he literally the only thing I'm caught up on? I did have some stuff from when I missed last Monday, but it's not. I don't really think anything that crazy. I'm. I only watched one episode of Euphoria. I watched the first episode. I give it a see. I didn't hate it, but I didn't love it. Really, really average in my opinion. But I've seen people say that it's gotten crazier.

[Noah]

So I don't know if that's a good thing.

[Fran]

Yeah, I mean it could go both ways. So I've really only watched the first episode and I'm up to episode four of your Friends and Neighbors. So I just missed. I just have to catch up on the one from this last Friday. I love. I really love this show and it's one of those shows that like, I don't know what it is, but every time Joe and I finish an episode, we're both like, this is a great show. Like, we just really enjoy it.

[Ria]

Jon Hamm was great on Good Hang.

[Fran]

He was. I love him. So funny. My dad like really finds that my. They watch the show. It's like one of the only show like very limited on what shows they watch. My parents and he had it on like Jon Hamm and the club. Just like watching. He like really loves the John Hammond. The club scene. Just thinks it's so funny. It is. But I'll give that a. Honestly, an A minus. I really, really enjoy it. I thought this last episode was really good. I think James Marsden. I thought. I thought we were going to lose James Marsden for a second. Like there was a moment where I was like, oh no, he's Dead, which would have been tough for my viewing. Tragic, you know, but we can't have

[Noah]

that happen to him in two different.

[Fran]

No, you just can't. You really just can't. So. Really am enjoying that. I did finish this whole. I did finish shrinking as well. Caught up on the whole season. Finished that I love. You know, one of my favorites. I give that. I'll give that a B plus. I really enjoyed the end of the season. I just love Jason Siegel and. And Harrison Ford's, you know, relationship on this show. They had a little bit of a dicey moment there at the end, but they were able to come back together, which warms my heart. The new trailer for the Ted Lasso season came out as well, too.

[Ria]

They're still going with that.

[Fran]

They brought it back. Oh, it ended like they were like, we're done.

[Ria]

Yeah. What that.

[Noah]

It's been like. It's not like it was like a 10 year hiatus.

[Fran]

No, it hasn't.

[Ria]

They brought it.

[Noah]

You know what? We're gonna bring it back.

[Fran]

He's coming back to coach the girls.

[Ria]

Oh. Someone thought of the idea and said

[Fran]

this would be good. Yeah.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Noah]

How can we make this more wholesome?

[Fran]

So I'm excited for that. I'm definitely gonna watch that. Brett is, you know, Brett Goldstein's time to shine. He's got this rom com with JLO coming out.

[Ria]

Office Romance.

[Fran]

Romance. I forgot it was just gonna be like office something. Romance in the office. Office Romance. That looks so cute. So there's a lot that I'm excited for. There's a lot that's coming out. I mentioned off campus on my Instagram story because people were asking me if I was gonna watch it. I haven't read the books. And then everybody yelled at me to read the books. So that put that on my list. But that comes out next week and everyone's freaking out about it already. So I'm very much looking forward to that. People think it's gonna be fill that summer. I turn pretty void.

[Ria]

Yep.

[Fran]

And let me tell you, I need that filled because right now, my for you page is still edits of Belly and Conrad.

[Ria]

Chris Briney is in Hacks.

[Fran]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Ria]

And we were watching. Well, we turned it on and I didn't really pay attention, so I have to rewatch it. But Matt goes, oh, my God, he's cheating on Belly with Gene Smart. I died laughing. I'm like, oh, my God, this visual.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Ria]

He was literally making out Jean Smart.

[Fran]

I was crazy.

[Ria]

What is happening?

[Fran]

Crazy.

[Ria]

And that's when we shut it off because I said I'm not paying enough attention.

[Fran]

Right.

[Ria]

I need to watch this when I can focus.

[Fran]

Maybe a little too close to home. I do appreciate him going so far, like, being like this. This is the role I'm going to take because I've seen. You've seen a lot of his production stuff happening. They started production on the movie, so people are all over that. I'm seeing clips and pictures people are taking. Did a Christmas movie with Michelle Randolph.

[Ria]

Yes.

[Fran]

And the Hacks Hacks is airing now. But right now my furry page is entirely Belly and Conrad edits still. But now it's to Noah Khan's new album. Like, Noah Khan's new album came out fantastic. So good. Noah Kaiser album came out and it's just like, let's get those. Let's get those Belly and Conrad edits back out there, folks. So I'm, I'm. I very much. Was very much loving that, but off campus is apparently supposed to be filling that. I'm very excited to. To watch that. There's some good Amazon stuff coming out that they were. That they were teasing, but that's really. I watch. I'm kind of caught up on the Valley, I think. I don't know. Like, I just press play on and I don't know if it's like the latest episode or not. I think it is. I'll give it a C. It's okay, Val. I don't know. I saw a meme that really nailed. I thought nailed it on the head. They took out their apex predator. Now they don't know what to do. It's like, yes, Jack shouldn't be on the show. But now it's a little discombobulated.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Fran]

And I think that's. I think that's fair. And Real Housewives of Beverly Hills. I only watched the part one of the reunion. I still have to watch part two of the reunion. Part one. C plus. They're like, really? Dorit's just, like, really on the offensive. It's just like a lot to. To watch. And it's. I'm. I'm sad watching Kyle and Dorit and Erica, like, not be friends. They were always so locked in. And it's sad when a friendship falls apart like that where they're not. They're all like, not getting along or at least just like with Dorit. That's. That's. That's everything.

[Noah]

I don't have much. I watched before I left the new season of Beef.

[Ria]

Oscar Isaac.

[Fran]

Yeah, I've.

[Noah]

I've heard good I really like the first season a lot. And the first couple episodes of this season, I was like, oh, this is really good. And then it kind of lost me. But it was still good. It just wasn't completely different.

[Fran]

Like, I could watch season two without having ever finished season one, and this

[Noah]

one felt, like, completely different. Like, obviously, the storyline and the actors are different.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Noah]

But the show just overall itself felt different. Like, like the beef aspect of it. Like, I like it. It was good.

[Fran]

It's like White Lotus. It's like, you know, you bring a whole new group of people in.

[Noah]

This one was, like, on a way grander scale. Like, we were going to a different country.

[Fran]

Like, they upped the budget for season two.

[Noah]

They definitely did. And, like, it kind of got a little ridiculous toward the end for me, but I'll give it a B. Like, I enjoyed it solid. Some great. The music is some of the best parts of it. Like, Phineas did the music, but, like, they use, like, classic songs. Like, but, yeah, that was good. I've really just been watching Mad Men, like, anytime I have a chance.

[Fran]

Madman's having a resurgence. A lot of these.

[Ria]

Amy Polish.

[Fran]

A lot of people are re watching right now.

[Noah]

Yeah, a lot of people are rewatching, watching. My mom just finished it. I'm like, halfway through season three now.

[Fran]

I gotta give it another go. Joe and I tried to do it, like, maybe last year, and we watched maybe 10 episodes of season one and then kind of, like, stopped.

[Noah]

No, I'm pretty hooked right now. So I'm like, half my weekly watch part now. Sean Ham related.

[Fran]

So are we coming around?

[Noah]

I mean. Yeah, yeah. Like, I. I don't know. I. I am. I am having to, like, step back on what I said about Jon Hamm.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Noah]

So I'll give an A minus, like, overall for Mad Men. Just great show. Great show.

[Fran]

You know what cracks me up when I watch, like, is either sometimes when I know you guys have either talked about it, or you're just on the same page watching the dozen. And I was watching Marty play, and I don't know if it was like, a celebrity mashup. Jon Hamm, or like, John. John Hamm was, like, the answer to something. And, like, Marty immediately was like, Jon Hamm. You know, he's. He's got that big.

[Ria]

Because he learned about it recently, too. Yes.

[Fran]

Which has cracked me up. And I was like, these two definitely, like, either had the moment together where they were both like, whoa. Or no, he.

[Ria]

I remember it was over Christmas, we were in the car with his parents. And brother and sister in law. And I brought up Jon Hamm, and all of a sudden I started talking about Jon Hamm's big dick again. And he was like, what are you talking about? And we. Same thing with Noah, where I was

[Fran]

like, you gotta see, it was just so funny. Like, the way he said it was, like, so similar to how you said it. Like, just spreading the news. Yeah, exactly. Exactly. Okay. Sorry.

[Noah]

Your friends and neighbors. I'm caught up. Yeah, this is also, like, great. I don't know if it's as good as season one yet, but it's like. Yeah, I don't really know where it's going right now, but James Marston just.

[Fran]

Yeah, well, I just feel like it's really teeing up for some crazy shit to happen towards the end, you know?

[Noah]

Yeah, yeah. So I'll give that. I'll give it a. I'll give it a B so far. And then Euphoria. I haven't watched the most recent one. I watched the last one, which was the wedding episode. This is the last one I watched. It's just. I'm annoyed with myself that I have to keep watching it because it's just so bad.

[Ria]

Did you guys see that rumor that Cindy Sweeney, like, farted on set now? You guys see that video?

[Fran]

Yeah, I did.

[Ria]

That was insane. Like, first of all, like, no, there's no way she's bent over like that, farting. That was crazy. Like, the fact that people were like, oh, my God, she farted in this video. Like, there's. There's nothing. You can't come back. You know, it's like when someone else makes a noise, but it sounds like you farted, and then you have to try to be like.

[Fran]

And denying only makes it worse.

[Ria]

It only makes it worse.

[Fran]

It makes it worse.

[Ria]

You got to throw your. Yeah, I farted.

[Fran]

Yeah, it was. That's.

[Noah]

I'll give it a D. Like, it's just so, like, all over the place, and there's not much else to say from what I've said in the past few times I've talked about it. Like, it's just. I'm just looking forward to it being over.

[Ria]

Yep. So that's it.

[Fran]

Looking forward to the end.

[Noah]

Yeah.

[Ria]

That's all you want?

[Noah]

That's it. That's all I got.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Ria]

All right, well, we'll catch up more and we'll have more next week to talk about.

[Fran]

Ready to clock some TV this week?

[Ria]

For sure.

[Fran]

Catch up on some good stuff.

[Ria]

Stuff. All right. Go Nixon. Sixers.

[Fran]

Go all teams.

[Ria]

Yeah. Sports yeah. All right, that wraps up the weekly watch report. There is no bad time to start wanting to be strong. Whether you've been on the journey, you just want to get started. It's 20, 26 now, and you could just say it's the beginning. You know, we're not going to judge you. We're not going to say, hey, it started months ago. You could say it started now. Whenever you want to start. It's a judgment free environment, and it's judgment free at Planet Fitness. And you're free to get strong your way and on your own terms. And you can fill your strongest, your best self with best in class equipment for a full workout. From strength training to cardio to stretching, they have all the machines you could imagine. Most locations are open 24 hours, so if you feel like, oh, I don't know what time's gonna work for me, 24 hours in the day, anytime they're open, it's 15amonth membership, and there's over 2800 locations. And we're all strong on this planet. So join today in club online or in the free PF app. Hours, amenities and offers vary by club. Check out planetfitness.com or stop by your local club for more information. You must be 18 years old to enroll or 13 to 17 with a parent or guardian. All right, everyone, we are here with

[Fran]

a very special guest.

[Ria]

The one, the only, our favorite, Heather McMahon.

[Heather McMahon]

Hi, gals. How are you?

[Fran]

We're so excited to have you.

[Ria]

We're good.

[Heather McMahon]

I just, I'm so happy to see you.

[Ria]

We're so happy to see you. I feel like the last time you were in here, you were like, I need a soda stat. Like, I need to take my shoes off. You were like, I'm just, like, done with the day. But you were happy to be here.

[Heather McMahon]

I'm always happy to see y' all because you know what people don't realize is that we actually like each other outside of this. Really love y'. All. We were just talking offline about your trip to Italy. That's coming up. I'm going to probably just show up on the trip because I'm so excited.

[Ria]

Listen, I would love nothing more. That was like when I told you we were going to Turks and Caicos to your spot. Why, Mara? And you're like, wait, what dates are you going? Maybe I'll just show you have just

[Fran]

kind of copied all the things.

[Heather McMahon]

And that's such an honor to me because I love to think that I do vacation well. So when folks are like, I Want to go to that place? I get so horny for that.

[Fran]

Best compliment when somebody wants to copy your vacation.

[Heather McMahon]

Yeah.

[Fran]

It is the best. You're like, yeah, I. I do vacation. Right.

[Ria]

You do. And I feel like, you know, we feed off of that. And because you do vacation, so. Right. I will say this. Fran and I, we always said on this podcast, we promised each other, we promised ourselves we would never go on a fucking cruise. Okay? But because we know how good you are at vacationing and how much you love to throw a amazing party. We're coming on the cruise. You're coming on the cruise.

[Fran]

We're coming on the cruise, baby.

[Heather McMahon]

Chicks in the office are gonna be chicks at sea.

[Ria]

And listen, I. I can't wait. We were like, if we're gonna do a cruise, this is the way to do it. This is the cruise.

[Heather McMahon]

I understand the apprehension of going on a boat. I really do. A boat that size. But you have to realize I wouldn't lead you astray.

[Ria]

No.

[Heather McMahon]

It is going to be so much fun. I want you to imagine it's like Sorority Rush, Girls Gone Wild, adult spring break. Also, like, therapy and, you know, electing the first female president. All those feelings.

[Ria]

I wouldn't be on that cruise ship.

[Fran]

Are there any men that go on this?

[Heather McMahon]

Yes, a lot of times.

[Ria]

Yeah. So my husband's going to come. He's going to be at the casino with Jack.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Heather McMahon]

Listen, I don't know what they do. I don't know if they sit around in Circle Jerk. I don't ask questions, but my husband makes sure that he has, like, curated experiences for the, you know, the hetero men on board. So many husbands came on the last one, and they had a great time. Also, you're surrounded by, like, hot chicks. Like, what's there not to love?

[Ria]

Right? Like, don't complain about that. Nobody complain. My husband is really excited because a lot of times I do show him your videos and which. And he's like, I think we're gonna get along great. He's like, I'll find him at the casino.

[Heather McMahon]

He and Jeff are gonna be smoking stogies, bullshitting, talking about, well, y' all are Eagles fans, right?

[Ria]

No.

[Fran]

No.

[Ria]

You're Eagles fans. Yeah.

[Noah]

Yeah.

[Heather McMahon]

Is he a Giants fan?

[Ria]

Giants.

[Heather McMahon]

Okay, great. So as long as he's New York.

[Ria]

Yes. Yes. Big sports guy. So, you know, they could talk about all that. But we are really so, so, so excited. But like you said, it's endless entertainment, and we're gonna be putting on a show. You'll be putting on shows. It's really just like a great cast.

[Heather McMahon]

It's a great cast of characters. And I know going onto it, you're probably okay, what are we gonna do? When I tell you there is an activation and some sort of show for everyone. And I now know after doing the first cruise what I want to do differently, like for myself, for my show. And also I wanna go see other people's shows. It's just a blast. I don't know how to describe it, but Tina's here. Big shout out to Christina Tompkins, who produces the whole thing. I mean, we really spend a lot of time curating it and whatever you're into it, no matter how niche you or kinky it is, it's gonna be on the cruise.

[Fran]

I was gonna say. So for everybody that's, that's listening give us like the. Because we are, we know what it is and everything that it comes with it. But you explained everybody what exactly we're doing and, and how they can participate.

[Heather McMahon]

So obviously it's a little aggressive because like my face is on the side of the boat. But it's, it's anything that I have ever touched and loved and the people that I touch and love that I want to be a part of this. So you get up in the morning, we're gonna have whether you wanna do Pilates, whether you're hungover. We got an IV station. You can do. You can exercise. We've got DJs all over the boat. I mean, anything you can think of, we've done it. If you want to spend your afternoon. Cause you're sunburned doing vision boards, we got it. If you want to paint with my 79 year old mother, you can do a paint. Okay. You can. We're going to have comedy shows, like all day, all night. We're going to have drag shows, we're going to have strippers. You know, tastefully, if you're not into

[Ria]

that, if you're a little more concerned,

[Heather McMahon]

oh, I will be naked.

[Ria]

That's.

[Fran]

That's the part where we signed up.

[Heather McMahon]

Yeah, my tits were definitely out on the boat last year and they will be out even more this year.

[Ria]

Oh my God. I plan to be a part of that. Wow. I just imagine myself being so fogged up and.

[Heather McMahon]

You will, but you also have to pace yourself.

[Ria]

Yes, of course.

[Heather McMahon]

Because that's the thing is I didn't pace myself. Not even drinking wise, but how much I like lost my voice the first day of the cruise.

[Fran]

Yeah, that's, that's.

[Heather McMahon]

So we're going to have to bring some tea and really just ease into it.

[Fran]

What's, like, how does alcohol hit at sea? You know, because it's like, there's always drinking. Like drinking on an airplane or drinking different places. What's drinking on a cruise? Like, does it hit you harder? What do you think?

[Heather McMahon]

I think it hits you in a. Almost a gentler way because you're sitting on the lido deck, you have a cool breeze. You're just in the open ocean. It's. It hits you in a more joyful way. I will say. There's less sad, like drunken tears. Like, there's a lot less women. You think, okay, I got a bunch of women on a ship, someone's crying. No, it's so much more joyful. Even if. Even if you tend to have a couple glasses of wine, then you're like, I gotta call my stepdad and clear

[Fran]

things up or whatever it is.

[Heather McMahon]

You're not doing that on this cruise.

[Ria]

It's all joy. I'll wait till I get home. We're just having fun here. I would imagine it's like when you go on a boat and you get drunk on a boat, but it doesn't hit you till you step off the boat. Yeah, right. You know what I mean?

[Fran]

For me, on the boat.

[Heather McMahon]

Yeah. You are on the boat.

[Ria]

Right, right. Exactly.

[Heather McMahon]

Did you all do a boat day in the Turks and Caicos?

[Fran]

Not this last time, but the last time we had.

[Heather McMahon]

And you know, boat day is the best day. So imagine four days of the best day. Yeah, that's how I feel about it.

[Ria]

You jump in the water at all,

[Heather McMahon]

not off the ship.

[Fran]

That's actually a big no.

[Ria]

No, it's genuinely a question I had.

[Fran]

So that is a major safety. No, no coast guard will be called.

[Ria]

Is that like the number one rule?

[Heather McMahon]

The number one rule is please don't try and get in the water. So we will have a port of call, which is a private island. So you're gonna get off, be able to swim in the ocean.

[Ria]

Okay, we'll get off, though, at some point.

[Heather McMahon]

You'll get around, we'll swim around and

[Fran]

pools on the boat.

[Heather McMahon]

Two pools? Yeah, two pools. Not one. We got two this, two this.

[Ria]

This time next year, next May. So how can people get involved? How can people come.

[Heather McMahon]

They can sign [e-mail] fully on sale. So we are fully on sale. Go to heatherc.com and go ahead and sign up. And it's a real white glove service. And you will be able to pick your cabin and it's Going to be amazing. And what I also tell people, I understand that this is like a larger ticketed price point. Get the room with no windows. You're never going to be in your room. The only reason you're there is to like get a liquid IV and to like change your wig. That's the only reason you will be in your room.

[Ria]

Sleep, take a nap.

[Heather McMahon]

That's it. Sleep, take a nap.

[Ria]

You probably don't want to see the outside when you're taking a nap.

[Heather McMahon]

And I tell you, I wish I had a windowless room. You know, and the, the funny thing is, is, you know, I understand that people are spending money, they're taking time away from their families, their kids, their husbands, whatever, and I respect that. But my crowd, they buy out all the expensive rooms. They were like, we could. People were like fighting for balconies. And I'm like, you're on the lido deck. Just take the cheap room. That's the opposite. They like, when the male comics go and do these cruises, they can't sell the expensive rooms. Women are treating themselves.

[Fran]

And this is, and, and for like a girls trip like this, this is where we want to spend our money. Like I want to spend my money on a girls trip. I'm trying to get all my friends to come. Like that would be so fun. I told them already and they were all like, holy shit, do we have, do we all have to come?

[Ria]

And I was like, yes, yes, absolutely.

[Fran]

We'd have. So they'd have so much fun to

[Ria]

say you are a classy woman though. You know, when you're like, we get the white gloves service, we get it all. It's like you, if anyone knows how to do something like this, it's you. Because let me tell you, there is. People have tried to put together before on grounds. Yeah, that don't work out.

[Heather McMahon]

Firefighters.

[Ria]

We had firefighters. Yeah, that's kind of what I'm referring to.

[Fran]

We see men try and do some of these things and Right.

[Heather McMahon]

You know, it embarrassing when men try and put together events. I mean, I, you know, I feel like a million people have said this, but watching my husband put together a golf trip is actually the most out of body experience, like the, the attention to detail that he has. But meanwhile he didn't even know what day his sister's wedding is, you know, but watching women come together and curate. That's why I'm saying there's something for everybody on this ship. And guess what? Even if you don't drink, if you're sober, we'll have sober activities. Like, any. Whatever you're into, you can come and have a good time. I don't want people to feel pressured. Like, you gotta come and, like, break your sobriety and chug pina coladas and then, like, ruin your life. There is something.

[Ria]

We're popping our all over this place.

[Heather McMahon]

But if you want to grab your ankles and bust down Thought Diana to one of the greatest DJs I've ever met in my life, shout out to DJ John Stamps. We're going to do it.

[Ria]

I love that. Is that right? It really is. Bust Down Thiana. When we were pulling up to the church of one of my best friend's wedding, we were in the, like, limo bus thing. She goes, could someone. Can someone just put on Bus Down Batiana? She was like, this is all too serious for me.

[Fran]

Like, I'm going to pull up to

[Ria]

the church plane bus down Bouna right now, and you guys all have to get up and dance. And we were like, okay, yes, yes, yes. This is our moment and.

[Heather McMahon]

Cause what people don't realize is Bust Down Tatiana is one of the most poorly written rap songs of all time. Blueface, I believe, is the gentleman's name. He put in such minimal effort into his raps on that song. And that's why, for me, it is in my top five songs of all time.

[Ria]

Something easy to shake ass to.

[Fran]

One of the funniest things ever is that my sister had one year where she's like, I don't know what happened. Spotify must have glitched or something. She was like, there's a problem because she got her spot Spotify wrapped, and her number one artist was Blueface.

[Heather McMahon]

Yeah.

[Fran]

And she was like, I don't listen.

[Ria]

He snuck in there. He snuck in there.

[Fran]

She's like, someone hacked my Spotify and just listens to Blueface.

[Heather McMahon]

And it was Blueface. He's like, I need the streams from prison right now.

[Fran]

Oh, my. Well, we're so excited. We can't wait to jump aboard.

[Heather McMahon]

What do y' all want to do on board? That's the thing. Cause we have time. We haven't fully curated what y' all are gonna do, but I think that what I love about y' all is y' all keep me young, youthful, on the pulse of pop culture. So I feel like it would be important and pertinent for y' all to do something. Obviously, you're doing, like, a daily podcast show, right? Is that what we're doing?

[Ria]

Yeah, we're doing. We're doing a show. We're Doing. It's gonna be full pop culture, but then we're also gonna do trivia.

[Fran]

I think we wanna do trivia. Yeah.

[Ria]

Which.

[Heather McMahon]

Oh, and these hoes will get competitive.

[Ria]

Took the words right outta my mouth. And getting feisty.

[Fran]

And especially our age range. These ladies love trivia.

[Ria]

Yeah. And, like, we go against people and my goodness gracious, we can get competitive. Yeah. Yeah. Get nasty.

[Heather McMahon]

It can get nasty. And let me tell you what I tell her.

[Fran]

So if questions involved people lose their, you know.

[Heather McMahon]

Yeah. Well, when I came to y' all show, the live show in Atlanta and y' all were doing like, Harry Potter trivia, I was like, yeah, yeah. Oh, shit. And I've done celebrity Jeopardy. Which I won an episode. Like, I am also odd. I don't have. I don't know what the stock market is, but I. I can win celebrity Jeopardy. Do you know what I mean?

[Ria]

I know.

[Fran]

I feel you. I feel you. I feel you.

[Heather McMahon]

So I might play that with y' all and it's gonna get crazy.

[Fran]

That would be.

[Ria]

Be so fun.

[Fran]

Yes. We loved. We love trivia. So that would be like. I feel like we get a lot of good people involved in trivia.

[Ria]

Well, we really can't wait. I can't believe we're gonna have to wait.

[Heather McMahon]

I come in here, I know it's a lot. And when I. When we were talking and my agent was like, who do you want to come on the boat? I immediately was like, gotta get my girls. Like, that's. Y' all were one of the first people that I said, we gotta get them on.

[Ria]

I don't think you understand how happy that really makes me. I truly am a huge fan of you, even though, you know, like, I really am. I rave about you all the time. People ask me who I think the funniest person is. I think it's you.

[Fran]

There's no better feeling than feeling the love back from somebody you love that you really love.

[Ria]

You're like, oh, my God.

[Fran]

We were just talking about this with other people. Isn't it.

[Heather McMahon]

Doesn't it suck when you meet people in this industry and you're like, you're a nightmare.

[Ria]

You know,

[Heather McMahon]

I actually, like, don't like anyone in this room right now.

[Fran]

We had, like, a long standing joke. We were about, you know, like, I. I love the Jones brothers so much and her husband was joking that they don't follow us.

[Ria]

And we've done so many, so many things.

[Fran]

We've done so many.

[Heather McMahon]

Comment on this clip because y' all were talking about, like, no one.

[Ria]

Yeah. I had this on my story. I was talking about. My husband was like, they don't follow you guys. Like, that's embarrassing.

[Fran]

And I was like. And then we were joking. We were going back and forth being like, no. I was like, do we make a clip about them not following? And then I was like, well, here's the thing. They'll see that, and then they still won't follow. And that's a double. That's a double stab in my heart. And then you're like, I have to

[Heather McMahon]

end all of this.

[Fran]

Like, I can't deal with twice now. It's, like, pathetic. Now I have to, like, stop talking about.

[Ria]

Meanwhile, Heather likes us enough to invite us and to come here and hang out with us.

[Heather McMahon]

I'm making phone calls after this to my restaurants in Italy, getting.

[Ria]

I know. And here's the thing. This will come out after I'm. I'm in Italy already. So people will hold that against you. It's like, did she go to the rest? Did Heather make the call or not?

[Heather McMahon]

I'm making the call as soon as I get out of here. There's a little bit of a time difference, but that's why that's.

[Fran]

They should.

[Ria]

You're right. You're right. Okay. But I'm going to be on your case. I had your number.

[Heather McMahon]

Are you kidding me? And if I say, like, my. My family's coming.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Heather McMahon]

My family.

[Ria]

We're family.

[Heather McMahon]

We're family. My girls are coming. My families come. But they will. They will it, right? In the best way.

[Ria]

I will say you're my cousin.

[Heather McMahon]

Yeah.

[Ria]

Yeah. As you should. No problem. On your mom's side.

[Heather McMahon]

Well, yes, because we are Sicilian.

[Fran]

Yes.

[Ria]

So it has to be very specific now.

[Fran]

Do you just call it the Trufa Party? Not the.

[Ria]

Not the. Not the K. Hill Party. Not my. Not my new last name. But I go by two last names at this point. As you should, because publicly I didn't change my last name. But privately. Changing my last name.

[Heather McMahon]

So privately, you're going through it.

[Ria]

Not yet. I still have to.

[Heather McMahon]

You have to. Don't do it. Here's my thing. Okay. Don't do it. And I'm not saying that like. Don't look at me.

[Ria]

She's not changing it. I heard it's really complicated.

[Heather McMahon]

It's a pain in the ass. And I don't know exactly. I'm not getting political. I don't know exactly what's gonna happen in the next election. Keep your last name. You're a public figure. And when you check into Hotels, they can always refer to you by your married name.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Heather McMahon]

Everywhere I go, they're like, Ms. Daniels. And I go, yes, that is. But change going down to the post office. Yeah, there's a lot.

[Fran]

There's a lot of things. Social Security come out. Yeah.

[Ria]

Not publicly. Well, the best was when we were on our honeymoon last year, and my last name was still Chiffo. Yeah. And so. Oh, my God, they treated me like a princess. And we were in Spain. Okay. So. But they were like, oh, my God, are you Italian? And I was like, yes, I am. But then they spoke to me in Spanish, right? And I would be like, si. And then they would. And they would repeat what they said to me in Spanish to my husband in English. So I was able to pick up what they were saying because they were just doing both. And so I was able to pull it off, be like, yes, I speak Spanish. I'm Italian. You stayed at the same hotel that I stayed, La Residencia. The guy who checked us in, he literally stopped running me. Like, literally stopped his tracks. And then he was like, you're Italian. Okay. Then chasing me down the.

[Heather McMahon]

Yeah.

[Ria]

Ms. Truffle. Ms. Truffle, I have to ask you what part?

[Fran]

And my husband was like, what the

[Ria]

fuck is going on? We're in Spain. Like, they're right by Italy. Like, this is like, why are they acting like you are the fucking queen of Italy right now?

[Heather McMahon]

So you have better treatment at the La Residencia than I did.

[Ria]

Oh, really?

[Heather McMahon]

No, I had a great time. Just saying. No one chased me down.

[Ria]

Ms. McMahon.

[Fran]

Miss.

[Ria]

You need the vowel at the end.

[Fran]

You just need the vow at the end. It is funny because it's also like, we plan. Like, we plan all our trips, even when we're in Turks and Caicos. Like, we're. We're booking the rooms all day, so our last names get put on everything. So, like, it'll say in the. Welcome, Mr. And Mrs. Mariano. And my husband's like, oh, my God. But then he laughs because this. The staff he calls. Calls him like. Like, they think his first name is Mariano. Yes, yes. Like, they're like, Mariano. Like. And he's like, what's up?

[Ria]

All in Turks David.

[Heather McMahon]

Yeah, yeah.

[Fran]

He's like, shout out to David at the.

[Heather McMahon]

We love him.

[Fran]

Oh, and his name's Joe. So he's just like. He's just like, yeah, Mariano, that's me.

[Heather McMahon]

My husband got annoyed the first time when I think it was at our country club. They were like, Mr. McMahon. Because technically, I'm the me. I'M the lead member, the legacy. And he was like, yeah. And I said, you should be so fucking lucky. And you had a great relationship with my father. And if they think that you're maybe his son from another marriage and it's weird, and we are kissing cousins, you

[Ria]

just lean in, let her take it, and that's fine.

[Heather McMahon]

One day he was like, yeah, you're right. You're right. I mean, my God. Ah, the labels. But I just say if you can hold off, hold off. Cause it's a pain in the ass.

[Ria]

Yeah, I know what you mean. I know what you mean.

[Heather McMahon]

And guess what? Your kids on the back of the. That was the one thing. My husband was like, you don't need to change your last name.

[Fran]

Name.

[Heather McMahon]

But promise me, when we have children and they're playing soccer, it doesn't have to say, like, McMahon hyphen Daniels. I'm like, they're Daniels.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Heather McMahon]

Right.

[Fran]

Okay. You got it? Yeah.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Heather McMahon]

Deal. Deal.

[Ria]

Absolutely. You guys just went to the Masters.

[Heather McMahon]

We did.

[Ria]

What's that like? Because, you know, they take the phone. It's a whole.

[Fran]

Yeah, some hot takes this year, too. Like, the. The influencers were getting flamed for a lot being at the Masters this year.

[Heather McMahon]

So. Okay, let's. Let's take it back.

[Fran]

But you don't fall in that category.

[Ria]

Well, no, no, but I.

[Heather McMahon]

But I am a person out. Like. Yeah, I get it. And the first year the Masters had me come and they actually did some videos of me, like, recording, eating the food and all that. But we are major, major golf fans. We actually travel and, like, we follow Justin Thomas, who's a friend of ours, and we're just huge fans of his. So we're there actually, boots on the ground. If he's teeing off, I'm following him. So I have a different experience at the Masters. Like, obviously, I get to go and enjoy and, like, buy all the merch and do that, but I am not sitting drinking an azalea all day. I have an orthotic in my sneaker. And while I look absolutely poison put together, I am walking every hole. I am walking with his family. I'm actually rooting for a player. So I have a little bit of a more dialed in experience now. I thought it was kind of bullshit that all these influencers were getting shit. Like, guys, at the end of the day, you're still selling ticket. Like, it. Like, everything is her jam. And I thought that. And what was really interesting to me is how people, they jump on a bandwagon of bullshit. They don't know that. The days that the influencer out. Influencers are out there, they're able to have their phones. There are days where you're able to have your phones, you're able to have a camera. So I would see this shit where, like, somebody was bitching. I don't even know who they were bitching about. And they're like, I can't believe this person had their phone. Trust me, you're not sneaking a phone into Augusta National. They will body slam your ass. So if they had the ability to do it, they did it appropriately, Right?

[Fran]

Exactly.

[Ria]

And I feel like, like you said, when people jump on a bandwagon, there are people who have never been to the Masters, have never watched a round of golf in their entire life that will try to berate an influencer for their outfit and being like, this is not appropriate golf attire. When they have never watched golf in their life, they're just jumping on the first person who said Jenna.

[Fran]

Jenna Sims was getting it. I'm like, sure. She's fucking married to a guy. Like, Jenna Sims married to a golfer.

[Heather McMahon]

Jenna Sims wants to wear totally, like, titty tassels. I'm a big fan of Jenna Sims. Let her live. She is so fucking hot.

[Fran]

Okay. Exactly.

[Heather McMahon]

But also, she's cool and things are curated. She knows what she's doing.

[Ria]

Doing. Right.

[Heather McMahon]

I did see some other influencers there where I was like, all right, you clearly never been to a golf tournament.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Heather McMahon]

Like, then that's different. But no, shout out to Jeff. We love Jack.

[Fran]

Yeah. She took blankets, Masters blankets and turned them into pants, ripping her apart. They were so cool. I know she was.

[Heather McMahon]

She's on tour with her husband. She has been doing this for years.

[Fran]

Yes.

[Heather McMahon]

They know what they're doing. I'm so sick and tired. Yeah.

[Fran]

Again, these people have never been this year. Now you have a problem with it. She's like, I've been doing this for a long time. Yeah.

[Heather McMahon]

Like, get in line, honey.

[Ria]

All right.

[Heather McMahon]

I will say I didn't let the over consumerism take a hold of me. Like, there is this thing when you go to the merch booth, you kind of black out and you spend thousands of dollars.

[Fran]

Yes. Like, do I need one of the guys in Chicago? Like, I think bots. He came home with, like, 75 items. Like, yeah.

[Heather McMahon]

And it makes you nuts. And speaking of which, I haven't. I shipped my stuff and it hasn't arrived yet, so I got to check.

[Fran]

Okay.

[Ria]

Check on that.

[Heather McMahon]

Yeah. So my husband, I. I could only stay for two Days I left and then my husband got got these exclusive passes from a friend of ours to this place called Berkman's Place. Okay. And Burkman's is like the creme de la creme of hospitality there. Somebody who works at a big corporate gig invited him. Anyway, so my husband gets to go and you get a different tier of merchandise. So my husband bought you guys. He bought three Masters ottomans. So I want you to imagine like this ottoman in front of me. It is a leather ottoman, the legs are cross tufted gold medallions going down the side. And it has the big Augusta national flag and you know, on it. These things were $1,300 a pop.

[Fran]

So three of them.

[Heather McMahon]

He bought three of them. Two for his boys at the club. That he

[Ria]

going to pay him for that?

[Heather McMahon]

Yeah, they better. We just bought a house. Do you know how expensive it is to furnish a new home? I need brand deals.

[Ria]

You guys call me.

[Heather McMahon]

So these ottomans arrive and I said, what the fuck are you going to do with this ottoman? Jeff's like, I'm going to put it in my closet. So every morning when I sit down, I sit on Augusta national space to put on my Gucci's and I start my day. I was like, I hate you so much. Meanwhile, I felt bad buying a pair of socks.

[Fran]

I was going to say his walk in closet.

[Heather McMahon]

His walk in closet.

[Fran]

Exactly.

[Ria]

Cuz his vanity, now it's all Augusta national disgusting.

[Heather McMahon]

I'm like I said, I'm embarrassed for you. But also it's kind of cool. So whatever. Yeah, he was all excited years and

[Ria]

years down the line. It'll be very cool. It'll be a great purchase.

[Fran]

I hope those friends are grateful for those other.

[Heather McMahon]

Better be a Venmo sitting on his phone right now from these assholes. Okay.

[Ria]

Right. Thank God they ship them. I'm like, what's he do walking around with ottomans? Oh my gosh.

[Heather McMahon]

But you know the men. It's so funny to watch everybody at the Masters. It's obviously such a privilege to go and I'm so grateful that we do get to go. But again, I do have a totally different experience. Cause I am a die hard golf fan.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Heather McMahon]

You know, and happy for Rory, you know, happy he won it again. This is actually working out great for my new hour and my new special I'm about to shoot. So the more he wins, the better it is for me.

[Ria]

Aura frame is the perfect Mother's Day gift to capture the chaos you put her through and the memories that came with it. And as many photos and videos as you want. I got so many photos and videos from this Italy trip that this would be perfect for. Keep adding from anywhere at any time and add a message before it arrives. Every frame comes packaged in a premium gift box with no price tag. You could download the Aura app or text photos straight to your frame. It's reached number one in the App Store on Christmas Day in 2025, which means it was a great gift for everybody. And you can make Mother's Day special with Aura Frames. It's named number one by wire cutter and you could save on the gifts moms love by visiting aura frames.com for a limited time. Listeners can get 2025 off their bestselling Carver mat frame with code Cito. So once again, 25 off. That's Aura frames a U R A frames.com promo code CITO. Support the show by mentioning us at checkout. Terms and conditions apply. When's the new special? I'm excited about this.

[Heather McMahon]

I'm shooting it at the end of May. I still can't say where it's going.

[Fran]

Right?

[Heather McMahon]

I can't. Okay. I don't know why. I don't know why I see it.

[Fran]

That's so fine. We'll see. But I am very much looking forward to that. Will we get a little Ryder cup bit?

[Heather McMahon]

You get a lot of Ryder cup bit. You'll get a new little, like, neck job bit. There's a lot of things that I did in the last year that I didn't do well, and I'm talking all about it on stage.

[Ria]

Oh, my God, I cannot wait. One of my favorites was you telling, like, the Kate Upton story.

[Heather McMahon]

Yeah. She's such a babe.

[Ria]

It's so good. Yeah.

[Heather McMahon]

Kate Upton. You know, I haven't really heard from her since.

[Fran]

You know what? I keep telling the story publicly.

[Heather McMahon]

I keep telling the story publicly. Haven't really heard from her, but it's always about how much, like, I love and adore Kate Upton and how my husband got to meet his crush, which now I probably made it weird and creepy for her. So I get it. But shout out to Kate, though. Loved her new breakdown, her new spread and Architectural Digest. Love what she did. Definitely taking notes for my new house. So if she ever wants to come over.

[Ria]

Gorgeous but hilarious that they said they wanted it to not feel like a hotel.

[Heather McMahon]

And it is a hotel.

[Ria]

Exactly like a hotel. I was like, this is such a fucking funny caption. And it looks exactly like a hotel.

[Heather McMahon]

And I'm trying to figure out what to do now. Because, you know, I bought this home, it's been five years in the making. Like, I'm really, I'm proud of myself for doing it. And now I'm absolutely panicked because it's just like, you know, I have decision fatigue. I don't know how to pick out a throw rug, a chaise lounge, all this. And then I'm like, you want it to be warm and sexy and cool, but this, but that. And then everybody has a critique about your taste. And I'm like, if I fail, meanwhile, I don't give a shit if I have a blow up mattress. I just wanna shut the doors and finally have a place of my own.

[Fran]

I just know that that's just like a road I can't go down. Like, I just don't have the eye. I like, like my apartment, it still looks like it was decorated by like a 20 year old gallery. Yeah. Like so it's just, it's just not there for me. I'm like, I will be outsourcing. Yeah. You know, I'll have somebody come in

[Ria]

and just do it all, do it all.

[Heather McMahon]

But then you start to get those

[Fran]

bills and you go, oh yeah.

[Heather McMahon]

Wow. Yeah.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Heather McMahon]

You're like, okay.

[Ria]

Or.

[Heather McMahon]

And obviously I want to pay everybody, but they need. But you. It really is sticker shop too.

[Fran]

So that's shocking. Yeah. Yeah.

[Heather McMahon]

And I saw something the other day. They're like, if you can't afford to spend a million dollars to furnish the house, you can't afford it. And I'm like, I paid in cash. But yes, I need to do a lot of brand deals for furniture because I did not realize how expensive this is gonna be.

[Ria]

Oh my God. Just like the wedding. We need the brand deals.

[Heather McMahon]

We need the brand deals.

[Ria]

What's the update with, you know, TV movie? You're doing auditions still? Can you give us anything?

[Heather McMahon]

Let me tell you what, the amount of auditions I do that I don't see a return on investment on, it's kind of wild. And I am competing with every other out of work actor too. We're doing all the things. Whether or not I'm gonna get booked anytime soon is questionable.

[Ria]

I'm just so adamant that you belong on a TV show. And I remember I texted you, it was maybe around this time last year when that show Leanne came out on Netflix. And I was like, tell me you auditioned for this, because I feel like you did or you should.

[Heather McMahon]

And what was my response to you? I said, this is a million dollar question. Everybody has asked me, when are you gonna be on Leigh Anne. I said, if I was gonna be on Leanne, the show would be called Heather.

[Fran]

Yeah, okay.

[Heather McMahon]

And that is no shade to Leigh Anne.

[Ria]

No, but it's so true.

[Heather McMahon]

It is that it's so wild because in that space, like, I. So I sold a show to Hulu that we're developing right now, and it's based in the South. We took it to Netflix and Netflix was like, well, we have Leigh Anne. And I'm like, well, Leanne and I are. Couldn't do be different. And we are friends. I adore her. Like, shout out to Leanne's whole team. The show is fantastic. But it's so funny how being a white blonde woman from the south, they're like, well, y' all are the same thing. Like, art style would not be.

[Fran]

We already have that.

[Heather McMahon]

We already have Leanne. I'm like, yeah, she didn't even say a gosh darn, you know, And I'm over here grabbing my ankles, busting down.

[Ria]

Yeah, yeah.

[Heather McMahon]

So, yeah, I, I, I mean, I would love to have a guest star on Leanne, but. So I'm working on a show right now, but development is that's what you do. You sell, you turn and burn. And I write everything. So, you know, hopefully it gets picked up. In a perfect world, I will shoot this next special. It'll be released in the fall. And then I'll get to be on set and shoot my television show that I've wanted to make for years. So that's in a perfect worldwide listen.

[Ria]

That would be incredible. And you absolutely deserve it, like, ten times over. Manifesting.

[Heather McMahon]

What do we all want to do? What's next for y'? All?

[Ria]

Oh, God. I mean, I listen exactly that. I want to be on a TV show. I mean, God, what kind of acting?

[Heather McMahon]

I feel like you'd be an incredible dramatic actress.

[Ria]

Oh, my gosh.

[Heather McMahon]

Because you have very pensive eyes and they're. I mean, dude, you could do some telenovelas now that you are Italian and Spanish.

[Fran]

Well, here's the thing. If your project at Hulu gets developed and you. And you need a Italian of some

[Ria]

sort, put me in there. Because let me tell you, I'm just talking about this to everybody now. And our listeners are going to get very sick of this. And we can cut it out, but this is what you have to do.

[Fran]

Talk about it.

[Ria]

I grew up acting. It didn't work out, obviously. And so this is the story I tell everybody. And then it has now become like a funny thing where there has been multiple circumstances Where I have brought this up to people, where they be like, oh, well, maybe I can put you in something. You know, someone told me recently, who knows? We're not gonna even get into it. I'll tell you. After that, they're gonna have an idea, and it's a big thing. And I'm like, when do I do the follow up? Cause they were so adamant. So who knows?

[Heather McMahon]

Is the show already on air?

[Ria]

No, it's not.

[Heather McMahon]

So that they're probably panicking just as much.

[Fran]

That's the thing.

[Ria]

Like, how do I deliver this promise?

[Heather McMahon]

I have friends that are incredible writers that I don't even know if I could get them hired in my own writer's room because I have so little pull. And my name. I'm the executive producer. Like, director, actor, all that. It's wild how many other people pull the strings. Now. My show is based in Mississippi, and it's all about Mississippi. But it's gonna be tough if you start working on a Southern accent.

[Ria]

I'm gonna get you in. I will practice. I used to go to a speech pathologist when I was, like, 11 years old to get rid of my Long island accent, but now it's back.

[Fran]

I said, fuck it.

[Ria]

I need to be.

[Fran]

I need to have my character.

[Ria]

Not my character, but I need my personality back. You know when they made me get a Midwest accent and they made me get rid of it, and I lost my. Wow, that's coming back. But now it's come back.

[Heather McMahon]

So now who made you get a Midwest accent?

[Ria]

My agents when I was younger, they were like, okay, wait, you're going into auditions, and honestly, we're getting feedback that you're coming across very mature for your age.

[Heather McMahon]

Yeah, you're like 10 years old.

[Ria]

I'm like, I need a coffee and a cigarette. And they're like, wait, no, it's coffee and it's. You played softball and, like, all these things. But now I've just completely let it go because my husband has a very strong Long island accent.

[Heather McMahon]

And it'll lean into who you are.

[Ria]

Yeah, exactly. I'm leaning into who I am. So it's like, about finding that maybe

[Fran]

there's a Southern guy in the show and he takes a nice Italian out on a date and everybody freaks out.

[Ria]

And he's absolutely disgusted by her.

[Fran]

She's got a heavy Long island accent.

[Ria]

A Long island trash home.

[Fran]

That would be perfect. She doesn't fit in in Mississippi.

[Ria]

But I feel like we see, you know, like, Jake Shane and his Hulu Show. We see Paige and Hannah with their duo, we kind of, like, wanted to do those things. No, I'm so.

[Heather McMahon]

I love everybody. I'm so happy.

[Ria]

Fucking happy for them.

[Heather McMahon]

I'm so happy for everyone who's gotten their shows picked up immediately. I've sold three TV shows, but this is the one. So I am obviously very happy for my friends. Of course.

[Fran]

Totally.

[Heather McMahon]

But it is. Yeah, it is. It is a wild journey. And you know that it's so funny because people are like, when are we going to see you on tv? I'm like, I am. Every day. I've got three auditions to do later, you know, and this is the sad part about it. I think I've said this on this show before. I think that at one, like, I'll be at my funeral. And then every self tape I have ever done in a dark hotel room with either, you know, I'm reading this self tape with my husband, who's like, we're yelling at each other. Those are just gonna get played at my funeral.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Heather McMahon]

Like, I went to a casting director on a loop, and it's just me looking sad and, like, do I look fat at this angle?

[Fran]

You know, that is so relatable because.

[Ria]

Because I did that with my dad growing up. So my dad would do all the scenes with me behind the camera. And there were a couple times where they, like, put feedback through it because someone else read because his accent's, like, really strong and distracting. And then there would be. There would be times where my dad would be like, all right, can you, like, cry a little bit before this one? It makes your eyes a little bit more green.

[Fran]

And then.

[Ria]

And then I would, like, fight with him, and then they would get me to the point of crying, and he'd be like, see, though, look at those green eyes coming through.

[Heather McMahon]

And he knew what to do. It was like a toxic psychological war for.

[Ria]

It is warfare out there. But no, we're. We are so rooting for you. We know that.

[Fran]

Thank you.

[Ria]

Thank you.

[Heather McMahon]

So you want to act? What do you want to do?

[Fran]

Oh, I don't know.

[Heather McMahon]

What if you're like, just be a mother. Which. We laugh. But, like, truly, that's.

[Fran]

That's great.

[Heather McMahon]

You want that.

[Fran]

Hey, I would love for that to be in the cards as well. But no, no, I, I. There's so many, like, cool hosting things that I think we should be doing that I want to be doing. Like, I want to be. Be on the carpets. I want to be.

[Heather McMahon]

You would crush the carpets. You know, Can I tell you, the carpets is actually so good.

[Fran]

At the carpets. Yeah.

[Heather McMahon]

But it's a really hard job. And it is. It's a hard job.

[Fran]

But I've always been preparing my whole life for that job.

[Heather McMahon]

And you. You have a journalistic flair to you. Like, you could really fucking crush it. I would study so hard, but then I'd want to throw the cards away and just, like, lean into my improv and comedy skills. But it's a tough gig.

[Fran]

I know.

[Heather McMahon]

And I think it's also kind of bullshit that they. Everybody wanted to throw all the influencers under the bus, too, for that.

[Fran]

I know.

[Heather McMahon]

Everybody piped down.

[Fran]

Seriously, it's everybody else.

[Ria]

Everybody eats.

[Fran]

They got the jobs. But it's like, I've come back around to my childhood, like, dream jobs, which was sort of like the E. News, whatever, like, that kind of stuff. And then obviously, when I was 10, podcasting wasn't a job to be dreaming about. So I love what we're doing now, but now I'm like, ooh, I wonder if I could go back to some of those things that I absolutely thought I wanted to.

[Heather McMahon]

Absolutely could.

[Ria]

Absolutely. You can.

[Fran]

I'd like to maybe get in the mix in sports a little more too, because I'm a big sports gal.

[Ria]

You totally should, and I think you'd

[Heather McMahon]

be great at that.

[Fran]

We do more at barstool sports, but,

[Heather McMahon]

you know, I'm gonna say, isn't this entire facility based around the footballs?

[Fran]

It is, but they don't do that much stuff in the York anymore. They moved it all to the Chicago office.

[Heather McMahon]

I will say, you know, I had a little brush with death at the Ryder cup, and they really don't like women in men's spaces when it comes to sports. They act like they do. They want to be inclusive. They don't want you there now. You are absolutely drop dead gorgeous. So I do think you might have a better response than I.

[Ria]

Okay, stop.

[Heather McMahon]

But they. They. They really don't. They don't.

[Fran]

I don't want them.

[Heather McMahon]

They act like, oh, yeah, we want ladies here. They don't want it.

[Fran]

Well, you just fight.

[Ria]

I was fighting in the trenches for you.

[Fran]

I know you. I appreciate it.

[Heather McMahon]

The gayest thing you will ever experience is men at a sporting event. It truly is. The most homoerotic thing has got to

[Fran]

be the biggest one. Like, there's, like. You watch those guys. They're all matching outfits.

[Heather McMahon]

Yeah.

[Fran]

Like, they're all like, are you. Are you gonna make out before?

[Heather McMahon]

Like, and they all show, like. Because Ralph Lauren. Actually, I'm wearing one of my blazers that I got from the writer cup before I was fired and shout out to Ralph Lauren for giving thousands of dollars of clothes. I wear it all the time. Yep. But they. Yeah, it's all about, like, presenting their outfits and all the swag beforehand.

[Ria]

I mean, it is pretty gay.

[Fran]

There's a whole presentation. Here's the thing, though. Like, despite being. Despite not doing as much here, I have done a few things in the sports world here. And I have been here now we. Rhea's going on 10 years in September. I'm almost 10 years where, like, I got good armor to me. Yeah. You know.

[Heather McMahon]

Yeah.

[Fran]

So I think I can handle it.

[Ria]

And especially, like, our listeners and our fan base of chicks in the office would ride for you so hard on whatever you want to do that it's like, you know, whatever.

[Heather McMahon]

And you're an Eagles fan.

[Fran]

I am.

[Heather McMahon]

So really, you can handle anything. I'm an Atlanta Falcons fan, so I'm a little softer. Even though it's Atlanta.

[Fran]

Like, even though you're the Dirty Birds,

[Heather McMahon]

no one hears any funny. They had me out for, like, celebrity night in Atlanta. When I tell you I'm in this insane, sick suite, it's every rapper. I'm talking two chains, offset TI like, every. A Candy Burris is sitting next to me. I am the only white woman in the suite. And they all. They pan to everybody. They play their music, and everyone's going crazy. And then they band me and everybody in Atlanta. Like, I knew that everyone was like, who is this bitch? Four white women at the Falcons gate were like, that's our girl.

[Fran]

Yeah. And.

[Heather McMahon]

And then everybody in the suite, all the rappers, like, yeah.

[Fran]

Cause I was just there, like, doing

[Heather McMahon]

my Princess Diana way.

[Ria]

Oh, my God, I love it. That would honestly be my dream suite to be in. Yeah. Yeah.

[Heather McMahon]

It was insane. I was geeking out. Usher sitting, like, next to me, and we're eating chicken tenders off the same plate. I was like, you good?

[Ria]

You know, meat? Any honey mustard?

[Heather McMahon]

Yeah. Truly. It was amazing. But I think you would crush whatever y' all want to do. You know that. I really, truly adore y'.

[Ria]

All.

[Heather McMahon]

And I think whatever y' all want to do, the world is your oyster.

[Fran]

You're the best. Thank you. This is one of the fastest. And you know what we're going to. And our first step of trying something new. Going on a cruise.

[Ria]

Yes, exactly. That's our first step, getting out of our comfort zone. So Everybody go to heather.com. heather, thank you so much.

[Heather McMahon]

Thank you guys for having me. I love y'. All and shout out to, you know, the universe and shout out to Tina and shout out to everybody who is doing things.

[Fran]

Yep, exactly. Doing things, doing things and getting them done, trying and accomplishing.

[Ria]

And we're not jealous of anybody else's TV shows.

[Heather McMahon]

We are not jealous of anybody else's opportunities that seem to just fall in their lap.

[Ria]

I love it. Thank you.

[Heather McMahon]

Love you guys.

[Ria]

That wraps up today's episode of Chicks in the Office. Thank you so much for watching and listening. We are happy to be back. We missed you guys and we can't wait to talk about the Met gala. Happy Met Monday.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Ria]

We'll have a full review on Wednesday's episode. So we love you guys so much. We'll talk to guys you on Wednesday. Yeah. Chicks in the Office.

[Noah]

Longtime listener, first time caller.

[Ria]

Look at the charts who does it the best Two chicks getting paid in reality checks you can find them at the gym it's not even a flex Last minute red carpet flew them out on the jet yeah, they're who you

[Heather McMahon]

want to be they're always on your screen.

[Ria]

Two queens and they might be spilling

[Heather McMahon]

royalty A lot of topics that are

[Ria]

popping here to get into.

[Noah]

I know a show that you probably

[Ria]

want to listen to. Turn the heat up turn the beat

[Heather McMahon]

up record the pod made a bag put their feet up the ones that leave no crumbs when they clean up

[Fran]

who's the pod that they all want to meet up?

[Ria]

Who turned the heat up? Turn the beat up record the pod made a bag put their feet up

[Heather McMahon]

the ones that leave no crumbs when they clean up who's the pod that they all want to meet up?

[Fran]

It.