Summer House's 'In The City' Trailer + Taylor Frankie Paul Files Protective Order Against Dakota

Summary

Chicks in the Office (April 8, 2026): "Summer House's 'In The City' Trailer + Taylor Frankie Paul Files Protective Order Against Dakota"

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Episode Overview

Ria and Fran unite for a pop culture-packed episode of Chicks in the Office, diving deep into the latest Bravo universe news, viral celebrity drama, social media scandals, and reality TV updates. Major discussion centers on the trailer drop for Summer House: In The City, Taylor Frankie Paul's serious legal moves against Dakota, and a range of other trending celebrity stories.

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Key Discussion Points & Deep Dives

1. Life Updates & Upcoming Travels (02:24–14:31)

• Fran’s Summer Travel Plans
  • Fran shares excitement over an upcoming family trip to Italy — her first time visiting, alongside her parents and in-laws. The trip is a surprise for her mother who last visited Italy as a child. They'll visit Rome, Florence, and Taormina, and will celebrate Fran’s one-year wedding anniversary in Florence. Fran’s also looking forward to Italian leather shopping, local wine in Tuscany, and visiting White Lotus filming locations.
    • "I feel so grateful that we were able to do that for them because it's gonna be really special and really, really cool." (06:12, Fran)
• Noah’s London Plans
  • Noah is headed to London with his mom for a five-day trip, noting the dynamics and challenges of traveling one-on-one with family.
    • "My mom's like, wow...we have every meal planned out pretty much." (08:56, Noah)
• Ria’s Bachelorette Weekend
  • Ria briefly mentions her upcoming bachelorette trip, rounding out the team's spring travels.

2. Summer House: "In The City" Trailer Breakdown (19:30–27:45)

• Bravo’s Marketing Genius
  • The trailer for Summer House: In The City dropped, teasing returning and new cast members, relationship drama, and a May 19th premiere date, likely timed to follow the Summer House finale.
    • "Bravo knows exactly what they're doing...they also know exactly what they're doing by putting in that little tidbit of Amanda and West hugging." (19:30, Fran)
• New and Returning Faces
  • Main cast: Amanda, Kyle, Lindsay, Danielle, Andrea, Lexi, and more, including Amanda’s ex Kyle, her friend Katie, Lindsay’s friend Yvonne, and notable newcomers.
  • The trailer hints at major drama, including Amanda and Kyle’s divorce, Kyle’s financial struggles, and potential new relationships.
• Casting Authenticity
  • Ria highlights how the new cast are genuinely connected, not just randoms: "I commend them for building out a show in a way that they all really do know each other." (26:21, Ria)
• Biggest Storylines
  • Amanda and Kyle’s marriage breakdown and West’s role teased, leading to intense speculation about the cast’s real dynamics.

3. Taylor Frankie Paul Files Protective Order Against Dakota (27:45–32:40)

• Legal Escalation
  • Taylor files a restraining order, detailing severe accusations against Dakota: possessiveness, stalking, alleged physical abuse.
    • "She's accusing Dakota of slamming her head against the dashboard of his car while in Taylor's driveway. Even Wilder...he asked her for sex right after." (28:58, Rhianne)
  • Dakota is also seeking to extend his own protective order; both sides have filed serious claims.
• Toxic Dynamics
  • Ria and Fran discuss the toxic, explosive nature of Taylor and Dakota’s relationship on and off reality TV, suggesting neither should remain in the spotlight for their well-being.
    • "Both of them should not be on reality TV...they need to be off it so people don't feed into this further." (32:07, Fran)
• Broader Concerns
  • The conversation touches on audience complicity and reality TV producers’ roles in keeping such dynamics front and center.

4. Chloe Fineman’s Vanity Fair Controversy (34:14–40:50)

• Problematic Storytelling
  • Chloe Fineman (SNL) faced backlash after a Vanity Fair interview in which she joked about pantsing a 6-year-old boy as a camp counselor — a story Vanity Fair later edited to minimize public outrage.
    • "Anytime you have to tell a story with the clarification of 'it was a different time', maybe don't tell the story publicly." (35:28, Rhianne)
  • The hosts are baffled at how this made it out of editing and the publicists’ approval, noting how uncomfortable even Chloe’s SNL castmates looked on video.
    • "They visibly got uncomfortable, wanted to leave the room...no one wants to be part of this little game anymore." (38:08, Fran)
• Double Standards and Reactions
  • The group points out that if the gender roles were reversed, consequences would likely be swift and severe.

5. Blake Lively v. Justin Baldoni – Lawsuit Updates (41:09–46:25)

• Court Proceedings
  • Blake Lively posts a lengthy statement after the court dismisses most sexual harassment claims against Justin Baldoni but lets the key retaliation claim go to trial. The hosts read extended quotes from Lively’s post.
    • "I'm grateful for the court's ruling which allows the heart of my case to be presented to a jury next month..." (41:11, Fran, quoting Lively)
• Key Takeaways
  • The trial will center on workplace retaliation and coordinated digital attacks, with both the legal system and the court of public opinion watching closely. The hosts anticipate even more bombshells this May.
    • “At this point, just throwing my hands in the air and seeing what happens in court.” (45:36, Fran)

6. Meryl Streep & Anna Wintour’s Vogue Spread (48:45–55:12)

• Pop Culture Crossover
  • Meryl Streep and Vogue’s Anna Wintour delight in a joint photo shoot, finally leaning into their Devil Wears Prada association after years of reluctance.
    • "Now she's leaning into it...taking herself a little less serious, which is always nice because she scares me." (49:05, Fran)
• Met Gala Speculation
  • The hosts hope for a viral Met Gala moment with Meryl arriving as Miranda Priestly.
• Integration & Marketing
  • They praise the clever cross-promotions and cameos (e.g., Adrian Grenier’s Starbucks ad referencing his infamous Nate role).
• Devil Wears Prada Hot Takes
  • Spirited debate about Nate’s reputation: "He was a bad boyfriend. No one wanted Nate to be back." (51:58, Rhianne)

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Listener Voicemails and Hot Takes (57:29–71:43)

1. Influencers vs. A-List Celebrities

   • Q: Are influencers like Alex Earle replacing traditional celebrities with younger generations?
   • A: Generational gap acknowledged. Fran and Ria note that fame is now highly subjective, influencers can outshine traditional celebs for the young, but classic movie stars still hold unique cachet for older fans.
     • "On the opposite end of that, somebody younger is probably gonna have that reaction to Alex." (60:01, Fran)

2. Mormon Wives & Sober Drama

   • Q: How does drama play out so wild without alcohol?
   • A: Hosts agree—knowing the drama happens sober actually makes it crazier; speculate on the performative nature of social media spats among Utah influencer wives.
   • "When I watch this show that completely escapes my brain...Can only imagine...if alcohol was involved." (63:23, Fran)

3. Amanda & West—Career Fallout?

   • Q: Will Amanda and West’s recent scandal end their careers?
   • A: The hosts say likely not. Time, public reaction, and how they handle it on-show play big roles. They reference how past reality TV villains have rebounded or simply become mainstays.
     • "They didn't murder somebody...it's not like they need to be fired." (68:23, Fran)
     • "Time heals all in these sort of situations if they keep working..." (67:18, Fran)

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Memorable Quotes & Moments

• Fran on Family Surprises (04:04): "I talked to my dad privately without my mom knowing and was like, 'Hey, if Matt and I surprise you with a trip to Italy...how do you feel about that?'"
• Rhianne on Reality Casting (26:21): "I commend them for building out a show in a way that they all really do know each other..."
• Rhianne on Editing Scandals (35:28): "Anytime you have to tell a story with the clarification of 'it was a different time', maybe don't tell the story publicly."
• Fran on Drama Fatigue (64:55): "Then it just all comes across so fake...a little bit repetitive with the drama."
• Fran on the Blake Lively Case (45:36): "At this point, just throwing my hands in the air and seeing what happens in court."
• Rhianne on Cancel Culture (68:23): "When it gets so extreme that these people's lives should be ruined forever because of this, then I'm like, backpedal a little bit."

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Important Timestamps

• 02:24–14:31 – Personal spring/summer plans, Italy trip details, wedding anniversary talk.
• 19:30–27:45 – Summer House: In The City trailer breakdown, cast introductions, Bravo scheduling theories.
• 27:45–32:40 – Taylor Frankie Paul legal saga, details of accusations, reality TV toxicity.
• 34:14–40:50 – Chloe Fineman’s Vanity Fair backlash, editing controversy, double standards.
• 41:09–46:25 – Blake Lively v. Justin Baldoni lawsuit update, retaliation claims, court preview.
• 48:45–55:12 – Meryl Streep & Anna Wintour’s Vogue spread, Devil Wears Prada nostalgia.
• 57:29–71:43 – Listener voicemails: Gen-Z celebrity knowledge, Mormon Wives drama, Amanda/West's futures.

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Tone, Vibe & Format

• Energetic, conversational, candid, and irreverently pop-savvy
• Direct quotes maintain the hosts' signature snark and warmth
• Listener engagement steers the final act, with hot takes and voicemails discussed openly

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Conclusion

The episode serves as a roundtable for all things trending—reality TV upheaval, legal bombshells, celebrity pop culture crossovers—grounded in both personal anecdotes and sharp commentary. For new listeners or those too busy to catch every headline, the Chicks deliver essential, hilarious, and insightful pop culture curation, with enough Bravo tea and TikTok drama to fuel any group chat.

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End of Summary.

Transcript

[Rhianne Fran]

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[Fran]

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[Rhianne Fran]

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[Fran]

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[Fran]

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[Rhianne Fran]

Happy Wednesday.

[Fran]

How are we feeling today? Good.

[Rhianne Fran]

Feel like it's been a good week.

[Fran]

Yeah, great week.

[Rhianne Fran]

Busy. Got some fun stuff coming up. Planning. The summer's right around the corner. I can. I can feel it. Like when you start. When you start to really get into the summer, planning of things and making sure you got all this down. I got some. Some spring. Couple spring weddings that I'm looking forward to. You. Your hair is blonder. Yes.

[Fran]

I defrosted.

[Rhianne Fran]

You did defrost.

[Fran]

I'm out of hibernation. I defrosted for the summer.

[Rhianne Fran]

As you must.

[Fran]

Yeah, the hair is blonder.

[Rhianne Fran]

Tommy noticed.

[Fran]

Tommy, of course noticed. Yes, of course. He was like something different.

[Rhianne Fran]

There's something different about. It's the most boy thing ever. Cause most of the Time, they don't notice. But when they do notice, they can't pinpoint what exactly it is. So they look at you like you have 18 heads. And then they go, did you do something to your hair?

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Rhianne Fran]

And you have to be like, you are right, I did. And they'll be like, I don't know what it is, but it's something.

[Fran]

Nailed it. Nailed it. Yeah. I was like, of course you would notice that my hair is blonder. Yeah. Loving it. Turned out so good. I'm obsessed. And I'm so excited because I'm getting. I was like, okay, I need to do my hair, because in two weeks, I'm going to Italy for the first time. I'm so excited.

[Rhianne Fran]

I don't think that's probably legit shocking to people.

[Fran]

I don't think I've talked about it once on this show.

[Rhianne Fran]

No, I don't think you have either. I don't think you have either. I was gonna say it's. That will probably blow people's minds.

[Fran]

Yes. Yes. This is my first time going to

[Rhianne Fran]

Italy, so, you know,

[Fran]

I've obviously always wanted to go to Italy, but I always felt like I gotta go, like, with. With my parents. I don't know why, but my. Well, I do know why, because my mom used to go when she was way younger, and her dad is from Italy, and, you know, like, literally came here when he was 27. So she has always wanted to go back because the last time she was there, she was very young. But this honestly happened months ago now. Like, maybe in November or. When was the last time?

[Rhianne Fran]

They haven't been back.

[Fran]

No, she. No, my mom has not been back since she was, like, a little girl.

[Rhianne Fran]

Oh, my God.

[Fran]

Yes.

[Rhianne Fran]

I don't think I realized that.

[Fran]

No. So I talked to my dad privately without my mom knowing, and I was like, hey, like, if Matt and I surprise you guys with a trip to Italy, like, how do you feel about that? Like, you know, I really wanna surprise mom because I had heard that my mom was basically crying to my family that she'll never get to go back to Italy and, you know, she'll never see it again. The last time she saw it, she was a little girl, like, the whole thing. And my dad was like, I mean, you know, wow. Like, yeah. You know, as a parent, they're obviously like, no, don't do that. But he was like, but she would love that. So I think back in, like, November, we surprised her, and she obviously lost her mind and was like, oh, my God, I'm gonna kiss the ground when we land and, you know, the whole thing. The motherland. She was like, ah. So she literally are so excited. And then Matt's parents are gonna come too now. So it's Matt and I and then both of our parents so much. It's gonna be a really special trip. Really fun. Everyone's so excited. Yeah. I think. Yeah. None of us have been to Italy, besides my mom. Yeah. And my mom does speak fluent Sicilian.

[Rhianne Fran]

Yeah.

[Fran]

So it's different Italian.

[Rhianne Fran]

Definitely. Definitely different.

[Fran]

It is very different because it's more of like a, you know, it's a dialect. It's more like a slang, a lot of it. So it'll be interesting because she's trying to brush up on, like, the actual Italian and not just what she knows, but I'm like, hey, we'll have someone that can. She knows the gist, I assume. But it is.

[Rhianne Fran]

And they'll know, too. They'll clock her immediately.

[Fran]

Yes. So very, very exciting. So we're going in two weeks. I literally can't wait. We're going to Rome, Florence, and then Taormina, Sicily. So it's gonna be so exciting. It's gonna be. Listen, it's gonna be quite the trip. Quite the cast of characters. I mean.

[Rhianne Fran]

And Matt's parents have never been.

[Fran]

No, they've never been either. Crazy. Yes. And getting them four together is always so fun. They have such a blast and are so funny together. So we can't wait. Matt and I kind of feel like we're bringing our kids to Italy and not, like, vice versa, but it. But it's really cool. And I feel so grateful that we were able to do that for them because it's gonna be really special and really, really cool. And I. And I really can't wait. Like, I've kind of, like, put it to the side for. For months now. And now I'm like, oh, my God, it's finally here. It's almost here.

[Rhianne Fran]

It's so crazy. And the timing of it all works out so great. Cause it'll be your one year wedding anniversary.

[Fran]

Yes. Yes. So we're gonna be in Florence for our one year wedding anniversary, and we're kind of gonna go off and do our own thing. Matt has something planned. I don't know what it is yet, although I can't help but spoil things for myself, which is so bad.

[Rhianne Fran]

But I will say, this poor guy always tries to surprise you, and you're just one step ahead.

[Fran]

I know. And then. But the weekend before we go is his birthday.

[Rhianne Fran]

Yeah.

[Fran]

So we said this Last year where it was like, okay, next year, like, I'm gonna handle your birthday and then you handle the one year anniversary, so we could both, like surprise each other sort of thing. So. So I have a surprise for his birthday that I'm very excited about for the week before. So it's gonna be a fun couple of weeks. I'm really excited and I'm just like, ah.

[Rhianne Fran]

I'm so giddy about it.

[Fran]

And yeah, doing, doing the one year anniversary in Florida. It's crazy. It's absurd. I just feel so grateful. I'm so, I'm so excited. And do you know the rule of, like, the, the gifts, like, for wedding anniversaries, like one year, two year, whatever. So the first year.

[Rhianne Fran]

I don't know what they are, but

[Fran]

I know that they're so the first year. I think it's paper.

[Rhianne Fran]

Yeah.

[Fran]

I was hoping it was going to be leather, because buying leather in Florence, it's not. It's paper. Yeah.

[Rhianne Fran]

But I said, we'll buy some.

[Fran]

Something of paper in Florence.

[Rhianne Fran]

Yeah, you'll get a postcard.

[Fran]

Yeah, something like that.

[Rhianne Fran]

Something that, like, is just commemorative.

[Fran]

Yes, yes. But I literally can't work. I'm so freaking excited. So that'll be. We're. We're all taking a week off. Franny has a. You have a bachelorette trip.

[Rhianne Fran]

I do.

[Fran]

For one of your friends who's getting married. Noah's headed to London with his mom, which is so exciting.

[Noah]

Another son trip.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Rhianne Fran]

So nice that you do that with your mom.

[Fran]

It is really nice.

[Noah]

Well, last time I wanted to do it, and then my sister and brother, like, finagled their way into it. So this time I'm like, it's just us.

[Fran]

Yeah. Did you.

[Rhianne Fran]

Was it a hard rule like, you guys. Well, my mom, like, did your siblings try and come and you said no or.

[Noah]

I didn't tell them about it. And then my sister found out and my mom's like, she wants to come. I'm like, all right. She wants to pay her way there. But like, I'm like, also, you're not like, you don't have to come on every trip, you know? Yeah, you can, you can take it. Take a trip with mom on your own time.

[Fran]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Rhianne Fran]

Plan your own trip with mom.

[Fran]

Yeah, I've. I've done some of the planning for Noah. I basically gave him every dinner reservation that he's going to.

[Noah]

My mom's like, wow. Like, because I'm like, we have every, every, like, meal planned out pretty much

[Rhianne Fran]

for the most part.

[Noah]

Yeah.

[Rhianne Fran]

That's amazing. How long are you going for?

[Noah]

Five days, I guess. Four days. I think we get there on Sunday and then we leave on Friday, so.

[Rhianne Fran]

Oh, no, it's a good, solid. A good chunk of time.

[Fran]

Solid chunk. Yeah.

[Rhianne Fran]

That's a really fun trip. I just felt like. It's just so interesting when you go somewhere with just one other person.

[Noah]

That's the last time I went to London, four years ago, when we did, like, our week.

[Rhianne Fran]

Not like a significant other.

[Noah]

Yeah. Me and my friend went. Just us last time. And it's fun. I mean, by the time. By the end of it, I was kind of like, I'm done with you.

[Fran]

I've spent too much time with you.

[Noah]

No. Yeah. Yeah. And maybe my mom will, like. Maybe she'll, like, go to bed and I'll be like, I'll hit the town or something.

[Fran]

She'll hit Bond Street. You'll hit the pubs.

[Noah]

Yeah, no, she'll hit the pubs. She's looking forward to the pubs more than anything, I think.

[Fran]

Oh, that's.

[Noah]

Anyone in London wants to hang out. Yeah, we'll be there.

[Fran]

Love it.

[Rhianne Fran]

Give me British listeners. Yes.

[Fran]

Sounds like a good time. Honestly.

[Rhianne Fran]

Yes. Who knows who we could meet.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Noah]

Notting Hill.

[Rhianne Fran]

Yeah.

[Fran]

You never know.

[Rhianne Fran]

You'd have a whole big moment. It'll be nice to see.

[Fran]

Famous actress.

[Rhianne Fran]

Yeah. This is like. We do like to take a little. It's not spring break, but around springtime trip. So the timing of it, just following around where your anniversary is just to feel like works out.

[Fran]

Yeah. We've done this the past couple years. And we usually center it around after the tour or right before the tour, that sort of thing.

[Rhianne Fran]

It always just depends on, like, there's one of us always has something that we're like, hey, can we build it around this?

[Noah]

Last year it was Singapore. Well, because we didn't do one in the spring, remember? Well, like, because Ria went on our honeymoon and then we just, like. We didn't take like a week off for the team.

[Fran]

Yeah, we did. Singapore. Yes.

[Noah]

The week that we were gonna take off, we'll just go to.

[Fran]

Yeah, we'.

[Rhianne Fran]

Like, we'll sub that down into the

[Noah]

fall, which didn't really feel like a vaca. Like, it was obviously awesome, but it's like, it still felt. Cause when it's the three of us, it just always feels like.

[Rhianne Fran]

Yeah, like we gotta be doing some content.

[Fran]

Yeah. I'd like to say that I'm gonna be off the grid and I'm gonna be a lot, but I'm Also, like, I gotta capture some things too, you

[Rhianne Fran]

know, I also don't have to be on the grid.

[Listener Caller 1]

Like.

[Rhianne Fran]

You don't have to be off the grid.

[Fran]

No, no. But, like, I. I want, like, you know, I'm like, oh, I really wanna dive into every part and, like, be. But we're also. You're also so ahead.

[Rhianne Fran]

Yeah.

[Fran]

Like six hours ahead or whatever it is that you are.

[Noah]

Well, don't worry. I'll be. I'll be pretty close.

[Fran]

Yeah. Oh, my gosh.

[Rhianne Fran]

Don't worry.

[Fran]

No, I'm at the Coliseum, and I look over and there's no one. His mom.

[Noah]

You know, the crazy thing is we

[Fran]

took the train recently.

[Noah]

Like, we were thinking about, like, oh, is it worth it to go to, like, another place? But I was like, it's a. One week is kind of tough to, like, go to different countries, but it would have been.

[Fran]

You can go to Paris.

[Noah]

And Sarah. Sarah's gonna be in Ireland. We're all.

[Fran]

Sarah's gonna be in Ireland over there.

[Rhianne Fran]

It's not that hard.

[Noah]

No, it's not. But it's just like, staying in London for one week sounded easier sometimes because I'm like, I don't wanna. Traveling is tiring.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Rhianne Fran]

It's time off. It's like, it's.

[Noah]

Yeah, but that would have been hilarious if I didn't tell you. And I was like, ria.

[Fran]

All of a sudden, then Sarah's like,

[Rhianne Fran]

hey, we just jumped over from Ireland.

[Noah]

We're here, too.

[Fran]

That's hilarious. I am a little funny. I am nervous to see.

[Rhianne Fran]

See,

[Fran]

I think my parents could be anxious travelers sometimes, and I am a little bit nervous to see how they're going to react to the fact that we're going to have to take, like, a plane from. From Florence to Sicily. When they're like, wait, we're already in Italy and we now have to get on another plane.

[Rhianne Fran]

They have to get on, like, a. Like a Ryanair.

[Fran]

And I've kind of like, been like, oh, yeah, no, no, it's fine. We're just going to train and a plane. And they're like, okay, whatever you want. And then, like, when the day happens, they're going to be like, oh, now,

[Rhianne Fran]

Ryan, what is it? Easy Jet.

[Fran]

Yeah, there's all of them. Ryanair, Easy Jet. There's like, a bunch of those.

[Rhianne Fran]

That's what we did when we went to. When we flew.

[Fran]

But if anybody has any recommendations, please let me know. We have some things booked that we're doing, but we kind of got a

[Rhianne Fran]

restaurant in Florence for you. You gotta go.

[Fran]

Please let me know. Because we are left a lot of nights open just to kind of like walk around, see what, see what's happening. We are, I'm so excited. We're going to, you know, where the White Lotus was filmed in Taormina. And we're gonna go to like the bar where they, you know, a lot of it was shot. We have a reservation there and the whole thing, it's gonna be great. My dad's like, oh, I'm gonna re. Watch. I'm gonna re watch White Lotus Italy.

[Rhianne Fran]

I feel like it's gonna really throw your. Throw them off that, that the locations are, are like different. They film at that hotel, but that hotel has no beach. So it's like the beach scenes they film somewhere else in Sicily. So it's like you get to the hotel and you're like, where's the beach? Yeah.

[Fran]

No, not there.

[Rhianne Fran]

Not here.

[Fran]

Not there.

[Rhianne Fran]

Not there.

[Fran]

Yeah, really exciting though, because my mom's family is from Palermo.

[Rhianne Fran]

Yeah.

[Fran]

City Alcamo, that's in Palermo, which is on like the opposite side of the island in Sicily. So we're not gonna go there. But she was like, we'll just take like, we'll just drive there for the day. I said, you're not gonna do that. It's like a four hour drive. Yeah, yeah. I was like, you're not, you're not gonna do that. But.

[Rhianne Fran]

Oh, God. Great. Mount Etna wine.

[Fran]

Yes. Oh, yeah, we're going to. Because my in laws, nobody loves wine more than them, which I appreciate because they. Because I've learned a lot from them about wine and appreciating good wine. And so we're going to a winery in Tuscany. That'll be nice. And I'm just really, I'm just really excited because it's gonna be a special trip.

[Rhianne Fran]

That's gonna be so nice. Yes.

[Fran]

Very excited.

[Rhianne Fran]

So excited for you guys.

[Fran]

Thank you. Uh, anything else on the agenda? We have Minneapolis show coming up. Trent will be there. Super exciting. How nice to Trent to take some time out of Masters week.

[Rhianne Fran]

I sort of didn't realize that until like yesterday.

[Fran]

Me too.

[Rhianne Fran]

I thought that in my head and I thought, wow, Trent committed to doing this the Thursday night of the Masters.

[Noah]

Yeah, but, but like when does the Masters actually start?

[Rhianne Fran]

Thursday.

[Noah]

Oh, it starts on Thursday.

[Fran]

I thought it was just a one day thing, honestly. Like it's a big game on Sunday, you know.

[Rhianne Fran]

Sunday, Master Sunday. No, the mast. Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday. Holy shit.

[Fran]

Is he gonna be getting live?

[Rhianne Fran]

First round is Thursday.

[Fran]

You think he's gonna be distracted during the show.

[Rhianne Fran]

No, they'll be done. They'll be. They'll be off the course by then.

[Fran]

I'm actually even more honored he's taking the time.

[Rhianne Fran]

Yeah.

[Fran]

Maybe he didn't realize.

[Rhianne Fran]

No. I will say though, I think that normally the Foreplay guys go down there like for the first few days before the tournament actually starts. Like, I think that they. At least from what I've seen. Cause I saw such a cute video of Frankie bringing his father and his father in law to Augusta and the whole thing. And I think they were saying, oh, you know, Wednesday, so it really starts Thursday. But I think those guys are down there before. And then they leave. So my guess is he's coming from. Is he coming from Augusta?

[Noah]

I honestly have no idea.

[Rhianne Fran]

Has anyone spoken to Trump?

[Noah]

I speak to Trent, but it's just us sending music back and forth. I don't. I don't ask him about his whereabouts.

[Fran]

Should I ask Trent right now? I do.

[Noah]

He did ask me to book his flight so I could look, but.

[Rhianne Fran]

Right. Hey, man. You and. You and Augusta rn.

[Fran]

I'm gonna text him, wait for updates.

[Noah]

Should we just FaceTime him?

[Rhianne Fran]

Are you in Augusta right now?

[Fran]

Should I just FaceTime him?

[Noah]

Yeah, just FaceTime.

[Fran]

He probably won't answer.

[Rhianne Fran]

Probably on the course. It's Augusta.

[Noah]

I don't know if he's there though. Is he like. Cause the whole thing with the Masters

[Fran]

is it's like it's a two week event.

[Noah]

No, no, I know, but I'm like, if they're in there, like there's no phones or anything. Right? So.

[Rhianne Fran]

Yeah, I don't know if they are as strict on it pre, like the tournament actually starting.

[Fran]

I'm just feeling honored.

[Rhianne Fran]

First two days. Yeah.

[Fran]

All right, well, we'll wait for his text back. But Minneapolis, we cannot wait to see you guys. We're gonna have such a good show. It's gonna be such a fun night. Remember to bring your signs. The signs. This tour has so good.

[Rhianne Fran]

A plus. So good.

[Fran]

Knocked it out of the park. So good. So creative. So thank you guys once again for. For putting in the effort and making those signs because we really do appreciate them. And I love looking back at the end of the night. I love looking back on the pictures.

[Rhianne Fran]

Same. Me too.

[Fran]

We post because I'm like, oh, my God, I don't see that one.

[Rhianne Fran]

Some of them.

[Noah]

Yeah, I don't see them either because all the people, like on the upper levels, I don't see.

[Rhianne Fran]

Yeah.

[Fran]

So good.

[Rhianne Fran]

All of them. Yeah. No people have the funniest ideas, and then they. They're able to execute in a way that is really so good.

[Fran]

There were some really funny ones at the last one that we didn't pick up on until. Until after, which was so good. But we're super excited. Can't wait to see you guys. All right, let's get into the rest of today's episode and get into the topics we're going to be talking about. The in trailer that just dropped. We're gonna get more Amanda Kyle, new couple drama. Blake Lively has posted on her Instagram talking about the court dismissing the sexual harassment claims made against Justin Baldoni. Chloe Feynman, weird video on Vanity Fair talking about her as a camp counselor. Not good. Not good. Taylor. Frankie Paul files a restraining order against Dakota detailing alleged abuse from Dakota and Meryl Streep and Anna Wintour teamed up for a nice Vogue spread. We love to see it. And we have the popcorner. So let's get into it.

[Rhianne Fran]

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[Fran]

the in the City trailer has dropped. And Bravo knows exactly what they're doing dropping this trailer right now. They also know exactly what they're doing by putting in that little tidbit of Amanda and West hugging. Hello.

[Rhianne Fran]

Hi, cutie. Hey, Mandy.

[Fran]

Lingering hug, long hug, long hug. We got new couples in the mix. We have Andrea back on our screens with his Wife Lexi. We have Whitney Franzway, who was on the Bachelor. Bachelor for a little bit, and I

[Rhianne Fran]

think maybe she did a season of Paradise. Yes.

[Fran]

We have Yvonne, who is Lindsay's.

[Rhianne Fran]

It's like Lindsay's real.

[Fran]

Yeah. Lindsey's real best friend. And we'll see a little back and forth between them. We have Lindsey Solo taking care of Gemma in the show. Of course. We have Amanda and Kyle. We have Danielle and her boy toy as well.

[Rhianne Fran]

So we have the full names of everybody. Lindsay, Kyle, Amanda, Danielle, Ian.

[Fran]

That's Danielle's.

[Rhianne Fran]

Yes. Right. Andrea and Lexi, Nick and Devon, Georgina, Whitney Franzway, Kenny Martin, Gavin Mosley and Katie Arendelle.

[Fran]

Yeah. So it's a different cast, new people joining our TV screens, some familiar faces with Andrea joining, obviously. Amanda, Kyle, Lindsay, Danielle. We know from Summer House, and it's an interesting time to drop this. It'll premiere May 19th, which we have now calculated. Calculated in our head. What I believe to be happening is that it will be the last episode of Summer House or the Part 2 reunion of Summer House. Because if we recall, this is the Bravo play by play. This is what they do best, is a lead in. A lead in. Like they did with Beverly Hills into Vanderpump Rules, when we got Sheena cheating or Brandi's husband cheating with Sheena, and we were like, what show are we watching right now? And turns out it was Vanderpump Rules.

[Rhianne Fran]

So same with Vanderpump into Summer House.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Rhianne Fran]

When they. When they too. I think realistically, it's probably the Summer House finale into in the City.

[Fran]

Yes.

[Rhianne Fran]

Before the reunion. Which does mean the finale wouldn't be until May 19th. It could be the reunion, but if. If they're following the formula, it would be like the Summer House finale.

[Fran]

It would be the 15th episode, right?

[Rhianne Fran]

Yep. Right.

[Fran]

Or the part one of.

[Rhianne Fran]

Or part one or.

[Fran]

I don't know, the reunion. I could see them doing, like, a part one reunion.

[Rhianne Fran]

How many part. How many parts they're gonna need?

[Fran]

Right. Do it all in one fucking night. I don't want to go week to week, give it to me all at once. I don't need the teasers. Spoil it for us. But it looks like we're not gonna get Summer House until end of May at this point, the reunion. And I think that they're not filming the reunion until end of April. I've heard rumblings now that it's in the April 20th. Some people DM me that, and I said, huh, I wonder how they know.

[Rhianne Fran]

Everybody's talking.

[Fran]

Everybody, Right? Everybody that could be wrong too.

[Rhianne Fran]

Yeah. And unfortunately, it's like the longer we wait, the more some absolutely insane rumors circulate where I feel like there's just a lot of speculation because we won't know until we hear from them, which won't be till them till then. So we got a long ways to go. It feels so like, it feels so far away.

[Fran]

It does. And as of right now, we are unfamiliar with most of this cast. So I think the drama that's being shown in this teaser. Yes. Looks interesting. Yeah. But we're gonna have to be bought in for us to be totally into the drama right now. The most interesting part to the of the teaser for us is seeing Amanda, Amanda and Kyle's relationship unwind. Their divorce. You know, Kyle, it seems like he had people over at the apartment while Amanda was still there while they were breaking up. They're talking about how they don't have a prenup. And, you know, Amanda's like, don't come for me. And Kyle's like, I won't come for you. That whole back and forth, I think that was edited in a way to seem like it's more devious than it was because when Amanda went on watch what happens live, she was like, we're fine.

[Rhianne Fran]

Like, yeah.

[Fran]

So I think that was definitely edited to make us believe something different. But who knows if this whole thing changes? Changes it. But it's interesting. It's smart marketing to drop this right now. And we'll be getting it May 19th.

[Rhianne Fran]

We're getting everybody involved. I mean, they put the. They put the bios for everybody on Bravo, which is interesting because you see, like, what they say. For Kyle and Amanda, their marriage is the demise of their marriage front and center. Kyle struggling with financial issues with lover boy Lindsay dealing with his new chapter as a fiercely independent single mom. Nick and Yvonne are married, and he is a furniture entrepreneur known for his charm and goofball energy. He finally proposed to her, the former vice president of marketing at a high profile nightlife empire now redefining success beyond the velvet rope after an unexpected layoff. While their marriage appears solid, underlying tensions about having children start to surface. She leans on her bestie Lindsay for support. And Nick weighs the pressure of career and financial uncertainty. Certainty as they decide if they're ready to start a family. Then we got Georgina, who's a sought after dermatologist and medical director of two thriving practices. She's preparing to launch her own skincare line. Also navigating single motherhood, complicated relationship with an ex Whitney and Kenny are a couple and she's moving from LA to New York. For him, that seems to be their storyline. It's like he hasn't proposed but. But she's, but she's moving. Kenny is Kyle's friend and lover boy investor. Blunt truth teller, self made real estate investor and venture capitalist. Then we got Danielle and her boyfriend

[Fran]

who

[Rhianne Fran]

you know, not to just solely go off, judging from the outside, interesting looking guy. You know, I'm like, he looks old

[Fran]

maybe, maybe he's an older gentleman.

[Rhianne Fran]

Maybe he is. She's apparently madly in love. Their whirlwind romance is moving at lightning speed. They're living together and navigating their fast paced love story. He's building a hotel tech startup. We got Gavin, who's a single guy, fixture in New York City nightlife, launching a string of successful bars and speakeasies. Andrea and Lexi, who we know and fresh off their first year of marriage at 34 with his parents in Italy, Andrea feels the pressure of time to start the family. So that they're going to be. That's where they're all at. It's like, is it time to start a family? Not then. We got Katie who is Amanda's childhood best friend. So they really did pull from like their real lives for this cast. Yeah, I remember Katie.

[Fran]

She was on the last episode. Yeah.

[Rhianne Fran]

And I think it was Katie's, I think it was Katie's wedding with the Ben in Italy. In Italy thing because I think that was, I think that was that. But she, yeah. Childhood best friends. Katie's unafraid to challenge Kyle and in a way only a ride or die could. Fiercely loyal. But that doesn't come without complications as Katie is also close with Danielle who doesn't always see eye to eye with Amanda. So they really, I will say I commend them for building out a show in a way that they all really do know each other. Like this isn't. I don't think it's going to feel forced. I think it's going to feel like how does this person fit in here? How do they know this person? It's like, no, they all really do know each other and they all agreed to do a, a reality show. So I think it makes it so much better than just sort of like finding random couples and, and slapping them on a show.

[Fran]

Right. And doing fake dinners and whatnot. So yeah, this will be interesting. Interested to watch and see what unfolds and you know, we'll. Devil west will definitely be in part of it because we get a little Teaser of that.

[Rhianne Fran]

I think that edit happened recently. I guess they're like, ooh, you know, Wes did film a little bit. Let's make sure we put some of

[Fran]

that in the teaser. He's in two minutes of an episode. Let's make sure we get that in the teaser. Yeah, yeah. Per.

[Rhianne Fran]

Exactly.

[Fran]

Moving on. More reality TV talk. Taylor, Frankie Paul filed a restraining order detailing alleged abuse from Dakota. So she filed the restraining order against Dakota today. It has been reported, and it's very detailed of what's happening. Yeah.

[Rhianne Fran]

Not good.

[Fran]

Not good. No.

[Rhianne Fran]

And here's the thing. This is what we had talked about when it all went down with Dakota filing and Dakota side of the story. It felt like these two were so. Are just. It's so toxic between the two of them. They're both coming at each other. They're both throwing accusations left and right. They're both. I'm sure there's bad behavior on both sides. But now this is Taylor's side filing this restraining order where she had to detail what had happened recently. She says that Dakota has displayed signs of crazy jealousy, stalking her, assaulting her, and becoming, quote, increasingly possessive ahead of her debut on the Bachelorette. According to her, Dakota got her initials tattooed on the inside of his lip, something she says she found out about leading up to their February altercation.

[Fran]

Oh, my God.

[Rhianne Fran]

And while Dakota is accusing her of assaulting him in that incident, she says he actually assaulted her in that confrontation in February. She's accusing Dakota of slamming her head against the dashboard of his car while in Taylor's driveway. Even Wilder. I'm reading this straight from tmz. Even Wilder. Taylor says he asked her for sex right after. According to Taylor, after she denied his advantage advances, Dakota called the police on her.

[Fran]

Oh, wow. Wow. That is very, very, very dark.

[Rhianne Fran]

Yeah, it's. It's crazy to see this side of it. And you just. You have a million thoughts that rush through your head because they're probably throwing accusations at each other, and they get to this point, they're in this fight, Alleged altercation happens. I think that in past years, I don't. I don't. I don't think it's gonna stop out. But in, like, past years, this is the stuff that would turn them on in a way. I gotta saying, like, they would have these crazy fights, and then I think. And then I think hook up. Like, that's what. Like, it would fuel these. These crazy fights would happen, and then they would just, like, jump into bed together.

[Fran]

Definitely seem that way on the show.

[Rhianne Fran]

Yeah. Even in the show, when you heard, when you heard Taylor in Jesse's closet on the phone with Dakota, like so upset about him sleeping with a girl and he's like, you know, she's like what's. She wants all these details because she's

[Fran]

like, she openly said that she was turned on.

[Rhianne Fran]

Yeah. Saying she was turned on. So it's just, I have a, like I just feel that they get into these crazy altercations and now hopefully they're starting to realize that it, it's extremely unhealthy the way that they were handling those, those things. And it's like, oh, maybe Dakota was, they're, they're falling back into these ways where they'd have these crazy fights and it would lead to them hooking up, which is just absolutely like wrong in this situation. Especially if they are physically hurting each other. You know, she's claiming he's slamming her head into the dashboard. Like it's, it is so bad, it's so absurd. So that is, you know, now, now her side, like I said the other day, I don't know what exactly happens in as this moves on, but she obviously is now is going on the offensive because it's like, well now I'm gonna like he filed his restraining order and that protective order, now she's filing hers. In today's proceedings, Dakota is expected to ask the court to extend his protective order against Taylor into a long term one as authorities are still investigating accusations of domestic violence. So it's, I guess it's just an ongoing investigation and now they have filed these reports against both of each other like, and now it's, it's up to, you know, I guess the police investigation on what, what comes out of it.

[Fran]

Yeah, I think that this is going to be one of those things where they both have accusations and alleged abuse against each other. And so it's going to be a back and forth and really I've kind of said this a million times now, but just like both of them should not be on reality TV and I both think that they need to be off of it so that people don't feed into this further. Because I think they also both thrive on that as well when they get the audience reaction of who's on my side, who's on her side and vice versa.

[Rhianne Fran]

So feels even crazier to just be promoting a show with Dakota.

[Fran]

No, it's insane.

[Rhianne Fran]

Now this comes out and there's just no acknowledgment, right? Nothing. No nada. Haha. We're just gonna watch My little show on YouTube, right?

[Fran]

We're just gonna keep them on the Shelby while this comes out. It's crazy.

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[Fran]

Moving on. Chloe Feynman and the rest of some SNL cast members were doing a little vanity. What the was it doing a little Vanity Fair interview and they were playing a little game of, you know, do you know me that well? That sort of game that all these places are doing.

[Rhianne Fran]

Yeah, they do it. They do it with a lot of cast.

[Fran]

They do with a lot of cast and they're doing with snl. And this story that Chloe Feynman told was of her as a camp counselor pantsing a six year old boy and he wasn't wearing underwear. And you know, and they put that out. Vanity Fair puts that out. They see the backlash to the story. Vanity Fair then edits the story together to not include his age and some other details to make it not seem as bad. But people had already seen the unedited version with the full story where you. And by the way, you could see the entire rest of the cast face where they're like, it just got worse and worse. It just got, it just got worse.

[Rhianne Fran]

And they were doing like solo cuts. Yes. To the of their reactions. Like it was a zoom.

[Fran]

And Chloe fan was like, oh, you know, it was a different time. I'M like what does that mean? A different time.

[Rhianne Fran]

She was like, anytime you have to tell a story with the clarification of ay was a different time. You think 10 years ago, maybe don't tell the story, you know like and don't tell the story publicly in an interview that you're like haha, jokey. Did you guys know this about me kind of way.

[Fran]

And this isn't like a two truth and a lie game where you're like two truths and a lie. I lived in Italy.

[Rhianne Fran]

She's the only one that knew the story. She gave it to them.

[Fran]

Yes, she just gave everyone the story. And she was like, and by the way, I got fired at camp counselor because I painted a six year old kid. And then she said that the kid would like lift up her shirt and so she wanted to get back at him.

[Rhianne Fran]

She called the kid a dick. A little dick.

[Fran]

A little dick. And pulled his pants.

[Rhianne Fran]

This she was a camp counselor. Six. Six year old kid, you can't pull anybody pants down.

[Noah]

Drove by and saw that like that's kind of traumatizing for that kid.

[Rhianne Fran]

And I always mess up all the cast. But what's his was like it like what is happening? Like it's just like this. Everybody's like how old was this kid? She was like I don't know, like six. And they cut that part out of the the new. Like they just jumped to her being like it was a different time and they're all joking, everyone's there. They're like honey, I think you're on some sort of list. Like yeah, no, I don't think this is a story you should be telling. And I don't know if they thought oh haha, people are going to laugh at this. And then when they saw the reaction they thought, ooh, let me backtrack. It's crazy to me that they saw backlash and thought well let's just edit his name. Let's just edit the kid's age out. That makes it better.

[Fran]

No, I don't know how cut the whole thing out. By the way. I don't know how this got even past the round of like publicists being in the room and hearing this whole story and them being like, yeah, air this. Like I don't even know, you know

[Rhianne Fran]

what I'm gonna bring to Vanity Fair. The story about how I pants to 6 year old as a camper.

[Fran]

And the publicists were like absolutely, like got fired for it. Listen, number one, this shouldn't have happened in the first place. We all can acknowledge that obviously this was so wrong. Number two, should have never told the story. Number three, who is in the room stopping this, this story from.

[Noah]

Also it's like, you don't want to play. I've seen people talking about this too. Like the if this was a guy card. But like, imagine if the roles were reversed here and this was a guy saying he pants a little girl. Like he'd be fired from SNL immediately.

[Fran]

Insanity. It's not good. You guys said this last night in our group chat and I watched it and I was like, what is this going to be? And I was like, oh, I was floored. And then I rewatched it 15 times. I was like, am I hearing this story correct?

[Rhianne Fran]

Cause I also there's certain details you pick up on the. On other watch, like third watch and.

[Fran]

Cause then every time I watch somebody else's face in the video, be like, wait, what is she saying?

[Rhianne Fran]

Cause they're.

[Fran]

They. You can all see them visibly get uncomfortable and want to leave the room. Like nobody wants to be a part of this little game anymore.

[Rhianne Fran]

Right?

[Fran]

You're.

[Rhianne Fran]

And it was also weird because you're like, okay, so you're trying to justify a six year old boy who was six years old and didn't real and you know, probably doesn't know what's wrong, what's right. And of course, like, yeah. Should that six year old be lifting up your shirt? No.

[Fran]

But do you.

[Rhianne Fran]

Do you pants the kid?

[Fran]

You definitely don't retaliate.

[Rhianne Fran]

And she didn't share how old she was.

[Noah]

I think she was like 16 or something.

[Rhianne Fran]

But I'm saying like, if you're a camp counselor, from my general idea of camp, because I was, I was never a camp kid. But I think you gotta be like, I think it's like 14 plus at least to be a counselor.

[Noah]

Oh, no.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Noah]

Regardless, I saw someone say she was 16. I don't know if that's true.

[Rhianne Fran]

I mean, I. They don't who they're making that. I think they would just be making that up because like, how would anybody know that? Like, how would anybody be like, she was 16.

[Fran]

How do you know?

[Rhianne Fran]

She didn't say.

[Fran]

Yeah, it was very wild though.

[Noah]

Yeah, very. Either way, it doesn't matter.

[Rhianne Fran]

No, it's. No, it's ridiculous. It's like, yeah, no wonder you were fired for that. But it's not like a. And she's doing like the voices.

[Fran]

Yeah, the whole voice.

[Rhianne Fran]

The voices. Oh. Like it just was weird trying to be like really weird.

[Fran]

It was like an SNL bit And it was like, wait, this is not. And this is not funny. And this is just really weird.

[Noah]

Like how, like, I'm just picturing, like, when you're editing that, it's like you can tell everyone in the room was uncomfortable, and you're like, yeah, let's. Let's still, like, keep this in.

[Rhianne Fran]

I don't. I don't know. Her castmates weren't like, hey, let's cut. Hey, cut.

[Fran]

Right?

[Rhianne Fran]

And then Chloe find a different story

[Fran]

also to then edit it and put it out again thinking nobody was going

[Rhianne Fran]

to see the original re edit is crazy.

[Fran]

RE editing is wild. The whole thing is so weird.

[Rhianne Fran]

If we just take out how old the kid was, that'll make it better.

[Fran]

Yeah. No, wild.

[Rhianne Fran]

Very.

[Fran]

So.

[Rhianne Fran]

So inappropriate.

[Fran]

Say wildly inappropriate.

[Rhianne Fran]

Just wildly inappropriate. Not a funny story.

[Fran]

And. Yeah. Yeah.

[Rhianne Fran]

You know, sometimes you find, like, sometimes I feel like comedians do sort of test the. You know, they'll test the waters on a. On a funny. On a funny story and whatnot. And you're like, oh, but in a. In a scenario like this where you're doing an interview and it's like your cast is just guessing if things are, like, questions about you just come up with something else.

[Fran]

Yeah, no, she literally gave this up herself.

[Rhianne Fran]

You know, like, this isn't the place to be sharing that story.

[Fran]

And I bet she regrets sharing it now.

[Rhianne Fran]

Yeah.

[Fran]

Because reaction has not been, yeah, wild. Obviously. Blake Lively has posted on her Instagram now after the court has dismissed the claims that she made.

[Rhianne Fran]

Not all of them.

[Fran]

Not all, but a lot of them.

[Rhianne Fran]

Yeah.

[Fran]

To Justin Baldoni. And she had a long statement that she had posted on her Instagram. She did include the dragon emoji.

[Rhianne Fran]

She did. So, I mean, perhaps leaning into it, who knows? But she. The court had dismissed a bunch of the, like, sexual harassment elements, but has kept the retaliation case, which she is. She put out a statement to really commend, like, double down on how she feels like this is one of the more important pieces of her case against him. She wrote, I'm grateful for the court's ruling which allows the heart of my case to be presented to a jury next month, and for the ability to finally tell my story in full at trial for my own sake, but also for those who don't have the same opportunity. Too many of whom I have known and loved deeply in my life, and the countless I'll never know. The last thing I wanted in my life was a lawsuit. But I brought this case because of the pervasive retaliation I faced and continue to for privately and professionally asking for a safe working environment for myself and others. She, you know, continues to, to write about how the digital attack on her was, was very real. It's been abusive. It's everywhere, not just in the news, but it's. But everybody's talking about it. If you're looking my claims will be the first or last time you'll see examples of the extreme dangers of retaliation in digital warfare. And it often won't be directed at celebrities or those who may be able to speak up talking about how it affects all of us. Studies estimate that between 16% and 58% of women have experienced online abuse or stalking, with 97% of gender based violence. Service providers reporting technology facilitated abuse in their cases. So she's really, really making sure everybody knows that she feels very strongly about this part of her case. She ended it by saying, I will never stop doing my part in fighting to expose the systems and people who speak to harm, shame, silence and retaliate against victims. I know it's a privilege to be able to stand up. I will not waste it. Dragon emoji. Yeah.

[Fran]

The dragon emoji was a nice touch at the end there to lean into the.

[Rhianne Fran]

Yeah. Throw a little callback.

[Fran]

Yeah, a little callback. A little throwback. The Dragon text.

[Rhianne Fran]

Yes. So from the course ruling, it said Lively has come forward with affirmative evidence supporting her claim, both with respect to the Wayfarer parties following through on their intent to spread negative content about her, and with respect to Wallace's technological capabilities in doing so. There's all. There also is some direct evidence that the plan to destroy Lively in her career was put into action in addition to boosting videos of himself. A jury could find that those efforts were proactive and in line with Baldoni's desire to, quote, feel like Lively can be buried a person. Her position could have understood the workplace to at times reflect a gender and sexualized you of women and a disregard for their privacy sufficient to make it reasonable to complain about a hostile work environment based on sex or gender. Viewed in the light. Viewed in the light most favorable to Lively, there is also sufficient evidence that it was reasonable for her to believe that the Wayfarer party sexually harassed her by creating a hostile work environment. Given the nature of the response, a jury could find that the Wayfarer parties were motivated not just by fear of what would be disclosed, but by the protected actions Lively had taken in the past. Lively has also submitted expert reports that tend to support her allegations that there was an online campaign to manipulate public opinion. And discussion against her. Thus, a jury could find that the Wayfarer parties, quote, waited to exact their retaliation at an opportune time. Lively has identified evidence that, if credited, could support an inference that Wayfarer parties took adverse employment actions against her, at least in part because of her protected activity. The way fair parties have not specifically contested Lively subject to believe that she was discriminated against. Boni himself made statements suggesting he understood Lively made her complaints in good faith. There is enough evidence to bring the issue of Lively's protected activity before a jury. So it's like, so, you know, they. They have found the courtesy that there is enough evidence in the retaliation case here for them to really. To. For them to really go to court. I was thinking that it's crazy that when this was all happening, we were like, May, 2026, they're going to court. That's in for. That's forever. And now in her note, she's like, I'm, you know, looking forward to having my day in court next month.

[Fran]

It's here. It is here at this point, just throwing my hands in the air and seeing what happens in court.

[Rhianne Fran]

Yeah, I'm sure a lot more will be said. I'm sure there will be nonstop news coverage of what is happening when this does go to court and everything that Blake will say and Blake's team will say and the lawyers will say in the courtroom. Because as we know, for the last year, there's been nonstop evidence being thrown in and submitted and all these things that have been made public and emails, texts, calls, posts, everything that we have that we have seen. And now, like she said, the. Her day in court will be happening.

[Fran]

So that's happening soon.

[Rhianne Fran]

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[Fran]

Last topic. This was absolutely iconic. Meryl Streep and Anna Wintour did a Vogue spread together. The pictures are so good. And we are finally seeing Anna Wintour lean into Meryl's character in the Devil Wears Prada. Because when the movie first came out, the Devil Wears Prada, Anna Wintour was not into this. She didn't like it.

[Rhianne Fran]

No.

[Fran]

She didn't like the way she was portrayed. She didn't like the whole universe of the Devil Wears Prada. Now she's leaning into it. Has had conversations with Meryl saying that she trusts. Trusts her implicitly. And I love that. I love to see this happening because I feel like we are now getting Anna Wintour taking herself a little bit less serious, which is always nice because she scares me. And to see Meryl and her having so much fun at these photo shoots. Like, these pictures are major. They are iconic. And it is a huge moment in pop culture for us to be getting this together right now.

[Rhianne Fran]

Yeah. This is such a great. This is such a great idea. And there is a video that Is. It's awesome. Of them waiting for the elevator, and they're looking each other up and down, and they're like, have we met? Like, you look familiar. And they're sort of going back and forth and. And Anna Winter started is naming, like, events, and there was a long standing rumor that Meryl was, like, blacklisted from the Met Gala because of her. Of this portrayal, that she was never. That's why she had never been there or gone. And as, like, Anna's naming the event, she's like, Oscar. And she's like, Met Gala. And Meryl, as Miranda is going, oh. She goes, oh, definitely not.

[Fran]

It would be amazing if Meryl goes to the Met Gala this year as Miranda. That would be a nice little play in.

[Rhianne Fran]

See that?

[Fran]

That would be really fun.

[Rhianne Fran]

That's a good prediction.

[Fran]

You could be. It could be happening. I'm sure they would lean into the Devil Wears Prada of it all at

[Rhianne Fran]

the end, because when does the movie come out?

[Fran]

Right.

[Rhianne Fran]

It's the end right then.

[Fran]

Right, Right. Because it'll be the first Monday of May, and then Devil Wears Pride, I think comes out the end of April. No.

[Rhianne Fran]

Or I forget the exact date.

[Fran]

Oh, May 1st. So it'll be. Oh, that is. I mean.

[Rhianne Fran]

Yeah. Yeah, that writes itself.

[Fran]

Mm. We got May 1st and Friday, May

[Rhianne Fran]

1st, and then Monday, May 4th, is the Met Gala.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Rhianne Fran]

Yeah, put that one. I'll put that.

[Noah]

What?

[Rhianne Fran]

Can we bet on that?

[Fran]

Yeah, we're betting on that. And if I'm wrong, then they missed out on great market. Yeah.

[Rhianne Fran]

Then that would have been amazing because I feel like the Devil Wears. Like, they're really leaning into the promo for this right now. And there's a lot of campaigns. There's a lot of. What's the word I'm looking for?

[Fran]

Crossover.

[Rhianne Fran]

Yeah, crossover. Integration.

[Fran]

Integration.

[Rhianne Fran]

There's a lot of integration happening right now of the characters in real life and the fashion industry and all these things to promote the movie. He just did a. Adrian Grenier just did a. Did you see it? He did a Starbucks commercial, and he's like. He's talking about how Nate didn't get asked back to do the movie. He.

[Fran]

He didn't. Because people didn't.

[Rhianne Fran]

Like. Everyone hated Nate.

[Fran]

Everyone hated Nate because they were like, you're not.

[Rhianne Fran]

He was a bad boyfriend. No one wanted Nate to be back.

[Fran]

Okay, here's. Here's the thing. Yeah. He wasn't supportive of her and her job. She did miss a lot of Nate's vets, but he didn't see the vision he didn't.

[Rhianne Fran]

And I think that. Yeah.

[Fran]

You know what I mean?

[Noah]

Like, I agree.

[Fran]

Like, there were parts.

[Rhianne Fran]

Thanks, Noah.

[Fran]

No, but I mean, like, the thing is, like, there were some instances, like his birthday and everything where you're like, you know what? But an understanding boyfriend, supportive would be like, it's okay, honey. We'll celebrate a different time. Yeah, he was kind of like a little bit. He was like a little bitch about it.

[Rhianne Fran]

Yes. And he. Yeah, he had a little toot about it at all times. And he, like, held it against her. It wasn't like, oh, this sucks that you missed it. But we'll, like, work.

[Fran]

We'll make it. Make it up. Yeah.

[Rhianne Fran]

You're not any powdered about.

[Fran]

It's pretty whiny.

[Rhianne Fran]

He was pretty whiny and had no understanding of. Really? Because I don't think he wanted to understand how competitive and intense her job was.

[Fran]

No, they weren't meant to be, and it was better off that way.

[Rhianne Fran]

No, I'll say. The commercial was very funny. It's like, what you throwing him in there. And then he made a little nod at the end. He was like. I mean, like, if they, like, if they call me, I'm available.

[Fran]

Right. He's like, only hot. And Entourage. Does that make sense?

[Rhianne Fran]

Yeah, well, like, he was hot as Nate. I always thought. I always thought he.

[Fran]

I just think Vinnie Chase, like, he's just.

[Rhianne Fran]

Yeah. Well, the unfortunate thing was anytime he was in anything else, it did just seem like it was Vinnie Chase.

[Fran]

Right.

[Rhianne Fran]

You know?

[Fran]

No, it was like it. But then it only. He was only Vinny chasing into the Entourage world.

[Rhianne Fran]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Fran]

You know?

[Rhianne Fran]

Yeah.

[Fran]

He can only be so nonchalant as Vinny Chase.

[Rhianne Fran]

Right.

[Fran]

When he got into other roles, everyone was like, all right, Vinny Chase is, like, sort of a bad actor.

[Rhianne Fran]

Yeah. He hasn't done too many other things, I feel like, recently. But he has been asked non stop about it because they're like, oh, the movie. So I feel like he's had to talk about Nate a lot. So this was smart, too. It's like, hey, if you're gonna. If you're gonna be asked 9 million times about this character and how this character has been left out of the sequel.

[Fran]

Right.

[Rhianne Fran]

At least get your bag at that big commercial. Yeah.

[Fran]

And here's the thing. Like, yeah, they broke up. He wasn't invited back. Yeah, she moved on.

[Rhianne Fran]

Right. It's also like, I don't think.

[Fran]

Not everyone.

[Rhianne Fran]

I don't think anybody would have wanted Andy to be back with.

[Fran]

No. No one's like, Nate.

[Rhianne Fran]

Yes. Andy, get back with Nate. We were like, right, just like this, you know, high powered professional at this point going back to working with Miranda and she's like, oh, by the way, Nate's at home cooking grilled cheese.

[Fran]

Hey, maybe he turned supportive and stay at home husband.

[Rhianne Fran]

Maybe they'll maybe, maybe there'll be like a mention of him. Like, not that he's in it, but maybe they'll be like, oh, he's like an executive chef in Paris or something.

[Fran]

I ran into Nathan. Yeah, in Paris.

[Rhianne Fran]

You know, I don't, I don't see him. But he fulfilled his dream of being a chef and he's got this big restaurant. He's too busy now, you know, or

[Fran]

they completely write him down or he just never made it. He never made it. The chef. It just didn't happen.

[Rhianne Fran]

I know, but it is so fun seeing them do this shoot, having them. It just all makes sense. And I'm glad, like you said, that Anna's starting to lean into it. You know, I always say Anna, and I know it is Anna, but she just seems like an Anna.

[Fran]

Really? Yeah, it's always been Anna.

[Rhianne Fran]

No, always. But just her aura.

[Noah]

Well, that's like the Ralph Lauren versus Ralph Lauren.

[Rhianne Fran]

Right, right, right, exactly. It's like you want to make it a little fancy and you just. So you go, oh, Anna Wintour. But everyone's always said Anna Sana. Yes.

[Fran]

Yeah, I never thought of it like that. But I get what you're saying.

[Rhianne Fran]

But I wonder if sometimes she's like, she has that. It's a very specific accent that she has. You know, she's like, I'm Anna Wintour.

[Fran]

Yeah, like, yeah, Ralph Lauren.

[Rhianne Fran]

Rad. People are. Yeah, Ralph. No, it's Ralph Lauren.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Noah]

People are like, he's from Queens.

[Fran]

Yeah. Actually Ralph Lauren. Straight up.

[Rhianne Fran]

Just straight up. Always been Ralph Lauren.

[Noah]

No, for a while. I definitely said it.

[Rhianne Fran]

100. I think I throw well because always. Because you went through a phase around maybe like high school ish times where people either they'd be like, it's Ralph Lauren. You're like, oh, is.

[Fran]

Oh, shit. I've been saying that.

[Noah]

No, I was like, I'd be like, yeah. Oh, I don't know fashion.

[Fran]

This is like when Kris Jenner, the way she says all the designer names. That's such a funny clip of the Kardashians.

[Rhianne Fran]

Yeah, yeah. The Louis Vuitton. Louis Vuitton. Louis Vuitton. Louis Vuitton.

[Fran]

It song so good. Yeah. This was amazing. Iconic.

[Rhianne Fran]

And I love it.

[Fran]

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[Rhianne Fran]

I like to roll with it. Lay that first voicemail.

[Listener Caller 1]

Hey guys, I just wanted to pick your brain on the whole influencers versus A list celebrities and their knowledge to the public, if that makes sense. Like I would say my mom has no idea who Alec Earl is, but then my younger cousin has no idea who George Clooney is. Like where do you think? Is there any in between? Like where do we think our these generations are going to end up? Are they not going to ever know these A list celebrities? Because they're just going to be so invested in influencers. And do you really think that influencers like Alex Earl would really turn out to be even bigger than a George Clooney? Not sure if this is all making sense, but are you catching my drift? Would love to hear what you guys think and love you.

[Fran]

Love you. I am catching it.

[Rhianne Fran]

You catching my drift? We're catching it.

[Fran]

I'm catching it. I think that there is like a cutoff and I think it is sort of a little bit after the year I was born. So I was born in 1997 and I think 2000 and on. It's really a toss up if they know certain celebrities, musicians, movies, like sometimes I'll see Mubi and Smelly have no idea about someone that we're just like, oh, obviously that person is so famous, you know, like, like there is. There's just a certain cutoff at some point now.

[Rhianne Fran]

But I think this is banned Through, I will say, like, I don't think this is a new thing. I think this has always been the case. I think there's just. I don't think it's necessarily influencers versus, like, a list celebrities now because they're all considered celebrities, like, these influencers to a younger generation. Like, they are their celebrities. So, like, they. They're just all put in the celebrity category. It's like, you know, there's. There's celebrities that my mom would have been, like, obsessed with in the 80s, that if you asked me when I was 10 to 16, if I knew who they were, like some guy on Melrose Place, I'd be like, I have no fucking clue who that is.

[Fran]

You know, I think it also brings up the discussion, though, of, you know, the two names Alex Earl and George Clooney. If we're in a restaurant. Right. Yeah. We see Alex Earl sitting at a table. Whoa. Like, oh, okay, cool. We see George Clooney. I'm. I'm fainting at the table.

[Rhianne Fran]

Yeah.

[Fran]

You know what I mean? Like, where it is like, holy. Yeah. But on the opposite end of that, somebody younger is probably gonna have that reaction to Alex.

[Rhianne Fran]

Yeah, for sure.

[Fran]

And George Clooney. Clooney. They'll look at their. Oh. Who. It's like some old.

[Noah]

But I feel like she's also saying, like, in, like, 30 years from now, is it just gonna be. Is it gonna, like. Is the Pendulum gonna, like, sway to the. Where no one cares?

[Rhianne Fran]

No, I don't think so. Because there'll be a new age of A list celebrities. To them, like, they're like. Like, their. A list celebrity will be. Will be Timothy Chalamet will be these, like, these younger.

[Noah]

But I also think that those people have to be online kind of, so they almost are, like, dipping their toes like Timothy Chaumet. That whole Marty supreme that was like. Like, that was like, as if he was an influencer.

[Fran]

Yeah. Marketed a bit younger. Yeah. They kind of have to play into that now because that's how you're gonna grab their attention. So. Yeah, it's interesting. But I. I do think what Fran said is right in the way that, like. Yeah. Kind of the same thing. When we were younger and didn't care about certain actors. Like, I mean, I remember my parents going crazy over Goldie Hawn. And when I was younger, I didn't get it. Now I can appreciate Goldie Hawn. Cause I'm like, oh, my God. Wow. Legend also. That is Kate Hudson's mom. Like, and there's, you know, you Figure out all that, that you appreciate more when you grow up.

[Rhianne Fran]

When you grow up and you actually sit down and watch the projects that these people have done. Because now you're like, if a, if a 12 year old is like, I've seen all of George Clooney's movies, I'd be like, that's weird, right?

[Fran]

You know, like borderline inappropriate.

[Rhianne Fran]

Yeah. There, there's. You're not at that age yet. And I think eventually you grow up, you start to watch old things, you see new things and you're like, oh, you can understand the impact that these people have had. But because this younger generation is so online, the obsessiveness over the. The newer age celebrity is just so strong. I don't think it means that they won't care about the big movie stars. I just think they're gonna really care about them all. Like, they'll. But the influencers are the ones that feel the most, like, approachable to them. They have the most access to them and seeing their lives. So yeah, like you see Alex Earl on the street. A girl is gonna run up and know everything about her and want a picture and all these things compared to walking down the street and you see like Jennifer Aniston, you're like, oh my God. But you don't, you don't have that access to her. You would, you would like, you're like, I can't go up to Jennifer Aniston, you know, so.

[Fran]

For sure.

[Rhianne Fran]

Yeah.

[Listener Caller 1]

Hi, guys. I would just like to make a point here. All of this drama that's coming out with the Mormon lives, specifically Jesse, These girls don't drink, so they are making these sober. Like Jesse with Marciano. Jesse kissing Jace like you're doing this sober. I think Taylor might have been drunk with the domestic violence stuff. But imagine if these girls drink, what the drama would look like. Like, this is crazy that this is all going on without an ounce of alcohol.

[Rhianne Fran]

I think that all the time. But don't. Doesn't. Some of them don't.

[Fran]

Does Jesse.

[Rhianne Fran]

Jesse does.

[Fran]

Jesse. Because.

[Rhianne Fran]

Right.

[Fran]

There's some that. Because Jesse sort of left the Mormon. Yeah. I don't know though. Pretty unclear. Has consumed alcohol, so don't know if she's actively.

[Rhianne Fran]

But it's not like. I don't think it's like someone who never drinks alcohol.

[Fran]

But you do bring up a good point. Because honestly, when I watch this show that completely escapes my brain that they don't really drink and oh my God, you're right. Can only imagine, like think of the reality shows that we get where people are drunk all the time, fighting like, I cannot imagine.

[Rhianne Fran]

Did you see Michaela post a video? She posted a video on Instagram. Sure, it's on TikTok too. But it was like Eminem, her and Macy, after driving over four hours to prove that Crusty man was lying. And now they're hanging out. Eye roll emoji, eyes emoji about Jesse and Marciano. And her caption was, I love you, but you're way too hot for this crying face emoji. And Jesse commented, okay, but you're not single. So had to find someone else. And then Jesse's going back and forth to people in the comments. I'm still single, just having fun. What's what dating is doesn't mean I'm in a relationship and won't be for a long time. Macy comments, looks like we're gonna have to take out the trash again.

[Fran]

Oh, shit.

[Rhianne Fran]

So she. But I'm like, what is this stirring up for? Like, what are you guys getting us all going for?

[Fran]

They know this is how they even got the show in the first place.

[Rhianne Fran]

I know. So they're so pick up the cameras.

[Fran]

I don't know how this doesn't cause them like anxiety. You know what I mean? They like love leaning into their online drama.

[Rhianne Fran]

Totally. And they're talking about their friends. Like, but that's why I wonder it all. Then it just all comes across like, so fake.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Rhianne Fran]

You know that's true.

[Fran]

That is true. Then it's getting a little bit tiresome right now. Yeah. Right now it's getting a little bit repetitive with the drama.

[Rhianne Fran]

Right. And it's almost like you're all making jokes about it. Jesse's commenting, Macy's commenting is like, are they all just in the group chat beforehand? Like, hey, I made this video. What should I caption? Like, people are gonna go crazy.

[Fran]

Right? Like, you go comment and then I'll comment. Yeah.

[Rhianne Fran]

Who knows?

[Fran]

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[Listener Caller 1]

Hi, Rhea, Fran, and Noah. This is Emily from Chicago. My question is, what would it take for Amanda and West to have a successful career after the drama? I feel like it will take at least a year after everything to kind of settle down. But my inkling is telling me that Amanda will be able to, like, see the light at the end of the tunnel. But I don't know about West. I feel like he's kind of done for. Let me know your thoughts. Thank you. Bye.

[Rhianne Fran]

I don't know. I feel weird when it's like this is the end of their careers because that feels extreme. Like, I know their behavior is wrong, but is it like, oh, my God, he should never work again because of it, you know, and. And. And we had to watch Tom Sandoval in 90 different shows.

[Fran]

Like, this isn't like, like, job ending. Like, they shouldn't have jobs anymore, you know, Like, I don't think they should be.

[Rhianne Fran]

Like, I don't think Wes should be fired from his job. Right.

[Fran]

No. Like, you like, hooking up with someone that you shouldn't or whatever does not mean bad moral judgment. Yeah. But that doesn't mean you shouldn't have a job anymore. So I think just like time. Because their job, I guess, in some way is to be likable. Right. When you are an Internet personality, your job is to be likable. And for people to want to watch and follow you so they could still do that. Are people going to watch and follow them? Time will tell. I think time heals all in these sort of situations where if they kind of like, weather the storm and push through and keep, you know, working, then eventually I think it comes back around. I mean, like you said, Tom Sandoval was on 500 million different shows, guys

[Rhianne Fran]

fucking on, singing on America's Got Talent, for Christ's sake.

[Fran]

People did enjoy Tom Sandoval on Traders. Like, yeah, yeah. And maybe to laugh at and not with, but this is a situation where, like, they didn't murder somebody. They don't. It's not like, oh, my God, they need to be fired.

[Rhianne Fran]

No.

[Fran]

You know?

[Rhianne Fran]

Yeah. And it's like, I don't know. I find this with a lot of these Bravo scandals that everybody loses their mind over. It's salacious, it's juicy. You want to know the Details. You want to talk about it with all your friends. But when it gets so extreme that it's like these people's lives should be ruined forever because of this, then I'm like, ah, like backpedal a little bit. Amanda's. It's a little more interesting to me because, yes, while she has her different ventures that she has done and, you know, like the bathing suit thing and being online, reality star is really her job and so she's gonna have a new show. But once again, it's like another thing of that is so much more based on public opinion. And if people wanna watch you as a reality TV personality, which is, which is different because it's like, who knows what's going to happen with Summer House, but if they're all back in the house this summer, that dynamic is, is crazy. Do they rework it? Do they not? Or if they all go back and, and see what happens? I. I don't know.

[Fran]

I mean, we watched Kristen and Jax for how many more seasons after Kristen fucked Jackson. So like, were we a fan and be like, yes, no, but people were watching them on tv.

[Rhianne Fran]

So no, as I'm saying, which is why I'm like, Amanda could still very much be on reality TV and continue that journey for herself and see what she wants to do in that world. I don't know what her other, you know, aspirations are on anything else that she wants to do. While yes, we watch west on reality tv, he does, you know, the podcast thing, the hosting stuff. Like, he's also so much in the sports world that there's like a pivot of like, oh, well, if Summer House is a dead end now and I blew up my reputation on Summer House, there is something else that he can do that while, yes, he will face public backlash for a while, eventually, eventually it'll die down. And same with Amanda, it's like if she wants, if they keep doing in the city and if that's a massive success and see what happens there or, or whatever, whatever she wants to do next, it'll. It'll die down. I don't think it's like, well, we should never. Like that it's over for them.

[Fran]

Yeah, no, I think that there is a path. Whichever way you. You kind of just have to keep going and see what happens.

[Rhianne Fran]

And this is what makes reality TV juicy. It's like they have now. You want to see how they all handle something like this.

[Fran]

And there has been many of times where somebody does something on reality TV that is messed up and then they return for A couple more seasons, and then people end up liking them a couple seasons down the line, you. Years of years down the line. So you. You just never know what could happen.

[Rhianne Fran]

Right. And it's hard to. It's hard to really say now when we haven't heard from either of them. Like, we don't know what their. What their vibe is going to be. We don't know if it's like, if they're going to own up to it, if they're not, if they're going to be like about it. Like, that changes it all so much.

[Fran]

Right.

[Rhianne Fran]

So true with how they show up to the reunion, like, and. And that'll be a big tell on, I think, how the public sees them going forward, but we don't have those answers right now because we don't know.

[Fran]

Yeah. How they proceed going forward will be a big indicator for, I think, the future for them. So. All right. I think that wraps up the popcorn or keep calling in with your hot takes, your voicemails and your opinions. We love hearing them. All right, that wraps up today's episode of Chicks in the Office. Thank you so much for watching and listening. We love you guys so very much. We'll see you in Minneapolis and we'll talk to you on Friday.

[Listener Caller 2]

Yeah, Chicks in the Office.

[Rhianne Fran]

Longtime listener, first time caller.

[Listener Caller 2]

Look at the charts. Who does it the best Two chicks getting paid in reality checks you can find them at the gym it's not even a flex Last minute red carpet flew them out on the jet yeah, they're who you want to be they're always on your screen. Two queens and they might be spilling royalty. A lot of topics that are popping here to get into. I know a show that you probably want to listen to. Who turn the heat up turn the beat up record the pod made a bag put their feet up the ones that leave no crumbs when they clean up who's the pod that they all want to meet up? Who turned the heat up Turn the beat up record the pod made a bag put their feet up the ones that leave no crumbs when they clean up who's the pod that they all want to meet up?

[Fran]

Sam.