Tara Lipinski & Johnny Weir Interview, Harry Styles Album Track By Track Review + Weekly Watch Report

Summary

Chicks in the Office – March 9, 2026

Episode Theme: “Tara Lipinski & Johnny Weir Interview, Harry Styles Album Track By Track Review, and Weekly Watch Report”

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1. Episode Overview

Ria and Fran bring their signature blend of pop culture coverage and conversational fun to this packed episode. This week, they sit down in-studio with Olympic icons and best friends Tara Lipinski and Johnny Weir for an open conversation about "The Traitors" and the recent Winter Olympics. The hosts also deliver a song-by-song review of Harry Styles’ brand new album "Kiss All The Time, Disco Occasionally," and close the show with their weekly TV Watch Report and hilarious banter.

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2. Key Discussion Points & Insights

A. Weekend Catch-Up & Seasonal Banter (03:01 – 09:16)

• The hosts reflect on their weekends, enjoying the “fake spring” in NYC, noting the playful confusion caused by daylight savings time.
• They riff about viral memes on NYC’s “eight seasons,” and muse on how daylight saving debates continue:

  “It just gets you. Every year it's like, oh, my God, it's this weekend. It just gets you.” — Ria (06:12)

B. Pop Culture Chatter: Birkin Bags & Celeb Gossip (09:23 – 17:24)

• The friends joke about Birkin bag culture, referencing a running office joke about Noah owing them one.
• They pivot into nostalgia about teenage celebrity drama: Nick Jonas, Miley Cyrus, and Selena Gomez.
• Ria reflects on cringey old interview questions to young stars and how pop culture coverage has changed:

  “It's just, like, so crazy though, because for us, it was so deep because it just, like, took over our lives… For them, they're like, you guys are obsessed with my relationship when I was 15.” — Ria (17:25)

C. Harry Styles’ “Kiss All The Time, Disco Occasionally” – Track by Track Review (20:23 – 49:59)

[Highly Detailed, see section below]

D. Weekly Watch Report (52:00 – 86:02)

• The crew shares quick reviews and lively commentary on trending TV and streaming content, including:
  • What I Like About You (B+ / Nostalgic comfort)
  • Southern Charm (C– to C / Lost steam in the finale stretch)
  • Summer House (B / Praising new cast member Bailey, thoughtful discussion of Ciara’s vulnerability)
  • Survivor 50 (B+ / “Great strategic gameplay, rooting for Sari & Christian”)
  • Love Is Blind (B / Eager for the reunion and some spoilers accidentally seen)
  • 56 Days (B / Intrigue building, but split opinions)
  • Paradise (A– / Deeply moving, “huge tearjerker”)
  • Love Story: The Wedding Episode – Discussion of real-life vs. dramatization, and media literacy
  • The Pit, Young Sherlock, DTF St. Louis, Industry Finale, Rooster (various mini-reviews)
  • Dinosaurs docuseries (B+ / “So cool but also heartbreakingly sad.”)

E. Interview: Tara Lipinski & Johnny Weir – “Traitors” & Olympic Life (87:20 – 120:11)

• Tara and Johnny discuss entering "The Traitors" together, the emotional reality of playing as tight-knit besties, and how it tested their bond.
• They explain why their plan was to conceal the extent of their friendship, navigating alliance suspicion and gameplay psychology.
• Johnny shares the emotional impact of feeling isolated in the game after being suspected, tying it to his experiences as a young gay man.
• Tara and Johnny provide an insider view on the unique drama of being both competitive athletes and reality show contestants.
• The pair gleam as they recall matching Birkin bags earned on tour and compare the “investment” of luxury goods.
• They touch on key Olympic moments this year—highlighting the authenticity and sportsmanship of the new wave of U.S. figure skaters.
• Both reflect on maintaining a balance between informative commentary and emotional storytelling in their Olympic broadcasting:

  “We really lead with love... that's where we come from as people and that's who we were as skaters.” — Johnny Weir (118:18)

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3. Highlight: Harry Styles “Kiss All The Time, Disco Occasionally” – Full Album Review

(20:23 – 49:59)

General Thoughts & Mood:
Fran admits she was nervous (“enormous sense of relief”) and says it’s a concise album—12 tracks, 42 minutes—that “saved her whole weekend.”

Song-by-Song Breakdown:

• Aperture (22:20)

  • Mixed reactions: Fran says it’s towards the bottom of her list; Noah calls it “top five”.
  • Many skip it on album listen since it was a pre-release single.

• American Girls (23:22)

  • “Catchy as hell!” Both agree this is an instant hit.
  • Fans drawing parallels to One Direction—music video references to “What Makes You Beautiful”.
  • Ria: “There’s a lot of introspective moments on this album.”

• Ready, Steady Go (25:24)

  • Nostalgic for a tween mall era—“shopping in Abercrombie or Hollister in middle school.”
  • The “dirty feet” lyric gets a laugh but is also appreciated for its quirky romance.

• Are You Listening Yet? (26:54)

  • “Top 3 for me”—Fran calls it fast-paced, “very chatty, less singy”.
  • Both love the urgency and live performance energy.

• Tasteback (27:55)

  • Noted as a crowd favorite, “growing on me more and more.”

• The Waiting Game (28:08)

  • Ria dislikes the “beep beep boop” sounds: “The beeps are too much for me.”
  • Both agree it’s “skippable” but might grow with time.

• Season 2 Weight Loss (29:14)

  • Both hosts are lukewarm; share Harry’s explanation that it’s about post-season actor “glow-ups” on TV.

• Coming Up Roses (29:32)

  • Consensus favorite: “Might be a top 3 Harry Styles song in general.”
  • Fran: “The way that it hits me so emotionally... chills, goosebumps every time.”
  • Ria: “It’s top 3, if not number one, to be honest... for Harry’s best songs ever.”

• Pop (34:33)

  • Called “so fun!” and “no notes.” Fran ties in Brittney Broski’s viral reaction.

• Dance No More (37:42)

  • “Sickly obsessed!” Fran calls it her possible #1 or #2 on the album.
  • Lyrics—“DJs don’t dance no more”—are called “funny and true”.

• Paint By Numbers (39:12)

  • Causes heated fandom debate about meaning (is it Harry’s One Direction past? Is it about Olivia Wilde’s kids?).
  • “Deeply felt... a bit of a heavy one.”

• Carla Song (41:28)

  • Lovely closing track “about Paul Simon,” named for a real-life friend.
  • Ria: “I think it was a really good way to end the album because it felt like a little bit of everything.”

Album Rankings:

• Fran’s tentative Top 5:
  1. Coming Up Roses
  2. Dance No More
  3. Are You Listening Yet
  4. Paint By Numbers
  5. Ready, Steady Go/American Girls (changing live on air)
• Ria’s:
  1. Coming Up Roses
  2. Dance No More
  3. American Girls
  4. Carla Song
  5. Aperture/Ready, Steady Go

Both declare this Harry’s second-best album, after Fine Line; express joy and intense anticipation for his upcoming tour.

Notable Quotes & Moments:

• “Harold, like, the way you saved us with this album this weekend. Thank you so much.” — Fran (22:00)
• “I just am so happy.” — Fran (44:38)
• “Let me tell you something. We’re going to be a goddamn puddle when he does ‘Coming Up Roses’ [on tour].” — Ria (48:47)
• “This is my favorite album that has come out in a long time, like, in general.” — Fran (49:50)

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4. Tara Lipinski & Johnny Weir Interview: Highlights & Notable Quotes (87:20 – 120:11)

Main Topics:

• Navigating “The Traitors” together as real-life best friends—keeping their relationship secret for strategy.
• Emotional challenges and gameplay strategy—how their athletic background shaped their approach.
• Impactful Olympics moments: embracing authenticity, sportsmanship, and new role models in figure skating.
• Passion for broadcasting: leading with love, honoring athlete moments, and working to grow the sport’s fandom.

Quotes:

• “We would have protected each other if one of us was up in the turret. That’s probably why they didn’t do it.” — Tara Lipinski (89:45)
• “I never want someone to dislike me just because… I’d rather you get to know me and then dislike me.” — Johnny Weir (103:24)
• “We really lead with love... that's where we come from as people and that's who we were as skaters.” — Johnny Weir (118:18)
• “There's this resurgence right now in skating.” — Tara Lipinski (113:08)

Memorable Moment:

• The duo shares the story of their matching rare Birkin bags from Tokyo, a testament to their friendship—and how they now match Maura’s “Traitors” finale Birkin.

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5. Timestamps for Key Segments

• Daylight Savings/Fake Spring Chat: (03:01–09:16)
• Birkin Bag Banter / Childhood Celebrity Gossip: (09:23–17:24)
• Harry Styles Album Deep Dive: (20:23–49:59)
• Weekly Watch Report: (52:00–86:02)
• Tara & Johnny Interview: (87:20–120:11)
• Notable Quotes & Top Songs Segment: (44:26–49:59)

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6. Tone, Language, & Energy

• Fast-paced, witty, and informal—like a fun pop culture group chat.
• Ria and Fran foster a supportive, fangirl-enthusiast dynamic—especially in their music reviews.
• Honest, at times emotional, never taking themselves too seriously.
• The Tara & Johnny interview brings warmth, openness, and a dash of glamorous insider perspective.

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Summary: Why Listen?

This episode is a must-listen for Harry Styles fans, pop culture obsessives, and reality TV junkies. Ria & Fran’s song-by-song album breakdown is giddy, emotional, and sincere, echoing the community of Styles fandom at its best. The Tara & Johnny interview is a rare, candid inside look at friendship, high-level competition, and the emotional truth of reality TV. Add insightful TV reviews and the signature “Chicks in the Office” banter, and you have the pop culture podcast hangout of the week.

Transcript

[Ria]

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[Ria]

What's up everyone?

[Fran]

It's Chicks in the Office with Ria and Fran giving you that Friday energy on a Monday. Happy Monday everybody. We have a super exciting episode for you today. We have Tara Lipinski and Johnny Weir on today's episode.

[Ria]

So excited.

[Fran]

We didn't know if we were gonna be able to have them on, but they were able both together besties together in studio. So we're super excited about that. But before we get into all of that and we get into today's episode, we need to talk about the thing that is keeping everyone's lives together right now. And that is Microsoft 365 copilot. You know, before we get into a little album discussion, our interview, we need to talk about the thing that is keeping everyone's lives organized right now.

[Ria]

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[Fran]

Exactly. And you can learn [e-mail] M365Copilot so excited for today's episode. So excited to have Tara and Johnny on gonna talk all about the Olympics and traders and all of good stuff. But before we get into all of that, I really want to talk about Harry. But how Was your weekend?

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Fran]

How are you guys doing? You know, we just want to talk about Harry's new album. But how are you doing?

[Ria]

Good. I had a lovely weekend and you know, saw some friends, went out a little bit, had some fun. Was good. Very solid. Nice weekend at home. Friday just got to relax, catch up on some. On some programs, tv, all that jazz, you know, it was nice. Catch up on some programs.

[Fran]

Some good programs. Uh huh.

[Ria]

There was. There has been some good ones. And yeah, that's kind of it. We went to Thursday night, we did like a late birthday celebration for Gia. Her birthday was the end of February, but we were away so we didn't see her. And my brother is here in New York for a week or so. So we're like, oh, well, we'll all do that together. And it was great. So fun.

[Fran]

Yeah, sounds amazing. It was nice.

[Ria]

Sunday was. Went for a nice long walk with Olive because it was finally cracking like 60 degrees and it was so nice, which is how people are feeling. We got fake spring right now.

[Fran]

We're in fake spring. That's why I broke out my pink shirt. Because fake spring is here.

[Ria]

We're in fake spring.

[Fran]

I looked at my closet, I said, oh, no sweater for you today, darling. You gotta put on a pink shirt.

[Ria]

Exactly. And there is a, there's a viral like meme that gets shared every year where it's the seasons. You know, you don't actually have four seasons in New York. It's like eight. Because there's a. There's a fake out. There's a second summer, there's a first spring. Like there's always. You get that little bit of time. And right now it's fake spring. So you get like three, four days of beautiful sunshine, 60 degrees, and then come like the weekend again. It's gonna be cold. And we'll take it though. You get a little sprinkle of winter before we fully get to spring. Even though they are saying this is supposed to be a warmer spring than usual.

[Fran]

I'll take what we can get though. On a Monday. Like a Monday morning waking up a little pep with the sun shining and the weather feeling good. Like frick, I'm not complaining.

[Ria]

And the clocks changed, which can be a little disorienting when it comes to the morning because it's dark out still. You know, it's like. So you get the darker mornings, but this obviously later in the day. You get the later sunsets, but the wake up is disorienting because you're used to a certain amount of light outside at the normal time that you wake up. And then when your alarm goes off and you're like, it's still dark out, it kind of throws, you know, it throws you off. I think everybody kind of. Every year, it just sneaks up on you, you know, Every year it's like, oh, my God, it's this weekend. It just gets you. And even Saturday, I was talking about it with all my friends, and Sunday I still was like, oh, my God, the clocks changed, you know?

[Fran]

Yeah, I. I'd have no idea unless everyone was talking about it. You know, you're like, it really does sneak. You're like, oh, that's this weekend.

[Ria]

Yep.

[Fran]

But then by next weekend, you get adjusted to it and you're. You're happy that it's light out.

[Ria]

Exactly. Spring forward and we get those late later sunsets, which is, you know, longer days. A beautiful Sunday sunset to start us off.

[Fran]

It was gorgeous. It was gorgeous. Cotton candy skies. Could sing about them.

[Ria]

6:55pm Delightful. It just gets better and better. You realize you. You realize as you get older, it makes such a big difference, the whole daylight saving thing. Because as a kid, I don't know, you're not really paying that much attention to it. You're like, oh, the clock's changed. Whatever. Maybe it's annoying when you wake up, go to school, you're like, this sucks. But it's not. It's way more, like, impactful as an adult, I think. Cause that those winter months, they just really get you.

[Fran]

Mm.

[Ria]

And then when the clock goes and you get that first 6:55pm Sunset, you're

[Fran]

like, please, the tides are turning.

[Noah]

I think I said this last year too, but I could have swore that they, like, passed something to get rid of daily savings. And I don't know if it just like, takes a few years to, like, implement, but.

[Ria]

No, I know what you're talking about, but I don't know if it did. It's like it maybe got it maybe went like one round. Yeah, you know, it went one round.

[Noah]

Daily savings. Okay. Is not permanently ending in 2026.

[Fran]

Yes. Yeah. Not. Well, not now, clearly.

[Ria]

Yeah, I think it was talked about it ending.

[Noah]

While 29 states have introduced legislation to stop the changes, federal action is required to make it permanent.

[Ria]

Yeah, exactly. So it's like the states can do it, but then you, you know, you can't have some states doing it. Some states, not Arizona and Hawaii do not observe.

[Noah]

So.

[Ria]

Yeah, I know, I know. But imagine, like, I guess they really could. I guess it really doesn't matter. But it would just be kind of crazy if New Jersey had a different

[Fran]

time than New York than New Jersey. That would be, like, disorienting.

[Ria]

Like, it's fine because it's Arizona. We have a time difference anyway from Arizona. We're on the East Coast. But I'm saying, like, if. That. If certain states on the east coast decided to change it, and then for us, we. We spring forward and others just don't do it.

[Noah]

Wait, so then I didn't even realize that. So, like, Arizona is like an hour. Is an hour like, ahead of California or back or behind California for a while, I guess.

[Fran]

Yes.

[Noah]

That's interesting.

[Fran]

I think.

[Noah]

So it must be if they don't switch the clocks.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Ria]

Cause. Right. It's a difference of us sometimes, like when we're. It's three hours or two hours.

[Noah]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Ria]

When you're there.

[Tara Lipinski]

So.

[Ria]

So, yeah, like, that'd be kind of crazy. You can't be commuting and having time zone a different time when you get home.

[Noah]

Imagine, like, Jersey passes it, but New York doesn't. So you cross a bridge and it's like you're going backwards.

[Ria]

That would be crazy, wouldn't it?

[Fran]

That would be crazy. It would be crazy if.

[Ria]

It's crazy if I just said that.

[Noah]

Yeah. Oh, fucking.

[Fran]

Fuck, yeah. That would be so insane. If Fran would just be so crazy

[Ria]

if I looked at Ray and said, we can't have New Jersey and New York having different times.

[Fran]

And then I said, yeah, that would be disorienting.

[Noah]

You know what's crazy is speaking of me, like, repeating things. We put out that clip of, like, the Birkin bag thing, and I found out from a comment that you had already said that we had already been

[Fran]

talking earlier about how we didn't have Birkins. Yes. That's okay. You know what? We love you for it. Yeah.

[Ria]

That one was not as egregious. This one. I just said it maybe 15 seconds ago.

[Noah]

I thought you were talking about going, hey, Fran.

[Fran]

Hey, Fran. Maybe it's just the tone of your voice. Maybe.

[Ria]

Maybe, you know, aren't you happy that

[Noah]

I don't just do it to you?

[Fran]

Yeah. Well, yeah.

[Ria]

Now everybody.

[Fran]

Yeah. Remember when he told me it was the.

[Ria]

The tone of your voice or whatever,

[Fran]

the frequency of my voice. Your voice just. It's a certain frequency.

[Noah]

So it's like when you play that ringing noise and dogs. Only dogs can hear it.

[Fran]

Yeah, exactly.

[Ria]

That's how we sound to you now. Yeah, that was funny. People really laughed at that clip. And I Saw a lot of people saying, hey, I think Noah. Noah's got to get the girls Birkins.

[Fran]

Oh, my God. And Noah owes us a Birkin bag.

[Ria]

A shared one. We'd have to share it.

[Fran]

He can't.

[Noah]

He can't get to your Birkin, Hook it up. You know, I. I'm not paying for

[Ria]

it, but no one's hooking that up.

[Noah]

But you don't think Rob got, like, some stupid.

[Fran]

Absolutely not.

[Noah]

A lot of people online I'm seeing

[Fran]

thinking, hook it up.

[Noah]

Like, he tagged the place.

[Fran]

No, no, no, no.

[Ria]

See, here's the thing. People would assume that because in most other industries. Yes, that would work. Like, if it was a piece of jewelry or, like, I think there's places that maybe that could happen. Not for free, but perhaps a discount. A Birkin.

[Fran]

No, I don't thank him.

[Ria]

I think he's saying thank you because that he didn't have to fly to Paris.

[Fran]

Yeah. Like, thank you just for being able to give this to me.

[Noah]

Isn't this, like, a secondhand? Like, this isn't, like, coming straight from the company.

[Fran]

You're still not gonna get a discount.

[Ria]

No, you're not getting a discount. If anything, it could be more expensive,

[Noah]

but that's the first thing.

[Ria]

Bags are more rare.

[Noah]

That's kind of more on the cheaper side for Birkins.

[Fran]

No, not necessarily.

[Noah]

15 to 20. Oh, really?

[Fran]

Well, I think Birkins can be very, very expensive.

[Ria]

Yeah, it depends on the material, the hardware. You know, there's certain. Like, an exotic Birkin where it's. Those can be hundreds. Hundreds of thousands of dollars.

[Noah]

What's that come from? The moon? Like, exotic.

[Ria]

Yeah, well, it's.

[Fran]

Yeah, Yeah.

[Ria]

I don't know. That they make out of, like, alligator and stuff.

[Fran]

Well, no one will get us a burk in it, then. We'll just share it. Like, we'll do designated weekends.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Ria]

We have shared custody.

[Fran]

Yeah. We just have. Of our child.

[Noah]

I really think that if you, like, made it your goal. Like, I'm getting, like, you don't. I'm sure you could get one. Like, it would probably take a lot of work maybe, but, yeah, it's not like, say, money's not an object. Like, you could get one.

[Ria]

It's not that. It's like, we're like, oh, my God. It's so insanely unattainable for us. It's just more so. We don't want to spend that much money on a bag.

[Fran]

Yeah, you got to go through the approval process.

[Ria]

It's a whole thing. You Gotta. If you have one that you like, you gotta source. We're just lazy, I guess. It's like a mat. Like, it's. It's not even.

[Fran]

I don't even.

[Ria]

Like, that's what I'm saying. Like, we don't love the bag so much that we're. I'm willing to drop tens of thousands of dollars on this bag because, like, I don't love the bag that much.

[Fran]

Exactly. I don't, like, want this bag.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Fran]

Really bad.

[Ria]

If I wanted it that badly.

[Noah]

You have to look at it as, like, an investment, because then it is.

[Ria]

That is how many people look at their collections of bags.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Ria]

But. Yes.

[Noah]

Wouldn't you always be worried, though? You'd be like, it's just in my apartment. Like, what if someone broke into my apartment?

[Ria]

Well, look at what happens to all the Real Housewives of Beverly Hills is they've had their really, like, so many of them had their houses broken into and all their shit gets taken. All their bags, all their jewelry.

[Noah]

Did you see you were right about Jake Shane Rob going on Jake Shane's podcast.

[Fran]

Yeah. I think Lisa.

[Ria]

I think Lisa spilled the beans.

[Fran]

Flipped up a little bit there.

[Tara Lipinski]

Yeah.

[Ria]

I don't know if Lisa was supposed to say that, but we could have

[Fran]

put two and two together.

[Ria]

Yeah. I mean, kind of makes sense. It's like, if they're recording the podcast together, then it's like, hey, Jake, can you come along with us?

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Ria]

I watched. I watched Nick Jonas on Therapist and it really cracked me up because Nick is just, like, too serious all the time.

[Fran]

He is so serious.

[Ria]

Sometimes I'm just like, loosen up, my guy. And he's like, yeah, I'm a Virgo. And everyone says I'm a very typical Virgo. But I kept giggling because it was the most Nick thing ever that he was able to spin. Jake asking about the Send it on music video into how it was actually a really great cause that Disney was advocating for and, like, they wanted to get the message out there taking care of the planet. And, like, goes on this whole thing about, you know, why it was impactful at the time for young kids to care about the planet and all these things. And meanwhile, I'm like. Cause Jake was like, what was that like, making that video? You know, Jake just wanted the tea from a Behind the scenes of the Set it on video. And Nick's like, well, we were trying to save the planet. Okay, Jake.

[Fran]

No, I know. He is literally, like, he really knows how to spin all of his answers.

[Ria]

That's why they called him Mr. President.

[Noah]

I saw the clip about like the. Him calling it Love island on crack. The Disney games.

[Fran]

Yeah, yeah, but that wasn't really like,

[Noah]

it's not that serious guy. Like people are trying to. It's like. But you kind of make it sound ser. Like when he talks, he's like, talks in a serious way.

[Ria]

He, he really.

[Fran]

You just want to like shake him up a little bit and be like, sometimes it's all right to loosen up a little bit, Nick. You don't got to give that serious of an answer. You're on there. You're on a show called Therapists. Yeah. Where he calls his fans pussies. Yeah. So I mean, shake it up a little bit.

[Ria]

And there were times where they were like, you know, they're totally having fun. But it is funny because I feel like Jake can jump around from topic to topic. And so like, they'll be talking about one thing and then be like, actually, you know what, let's talk about this ended on music video. And he's like, sure, what do you want to know about it? It was like, what was it like? He's like, well, we were trying to save the planet.

[Fran]

Yeah, he did get a little bit by being like, you know, it was a little crazy just because, you know, you have a lot of big personalities,

[Ria]

the schedules and all that. I actually watched a TikTok this weekend that, you know when you just all of a sudden are caught watching a TikTok and it's like a 10 minute long video, but you're like, I'm watching this whole thing. It was a like 2008, 9 breakdown of Nick Miley and Selena and God, I was hooked. And it took me back to. It took me back. And I'm seeing these pictures and these interviews and I'm like, wow, what a time. You really forget. It's just like the, the way that they would speak about each other is like Barbara Walters is asking them these very intimate questions.

[Fran]

Always.

[Ria]

It was like for some reason, Barbara Walters, I'm like, she's talking about, you know, she's talking to them about Miley's book and like their breakup and all these things. I'm like, they were literally like 15 years old.

[Fran]

They were so young. And the way that like these. And a lot of times it was Barbara Walters would ask these kids questions and then be like, like, even like Britney Spears or Justin Timberlake would be like, you're. Are you a virgin? It's like, imagine just getting into an interview and asking that.

[Ria]

Like, it's Crazy.

[Fran]

That would never fly.

[Ria]

It really took me out.

[Fran]

They asked young kids when they were. And especially, like, kids who were dating, like, Nick, Miley and Selena.

[Ria]

And you know what they were talking about? Like, they played a clip of Miley before she sang Full Circle. And she was like, on stage and she was like, I wrote this song about, you know, someone is always going to be in my. Like, we just always kind of keep coming back to each other. And then she's like, you know, spoilers about it. It's about a generous mother, like, you know, and everyone cheers and freaks out. And no wonder Nick is like this, because then they. There was another interview where there. You couldn't see the person interviewing them. It was like a, you know, video hit or something. And the guy was talking about Miley, like, writing songs about him, and then he's like, you think you should be getting some residuals from all these songs she's writing about you? And he's like, ha. Funny. Like, you're like, yeah. What the fuck is he supposed to say to that?

[Fran]

Like, what kind of question is that?

[Ria]

Yeah, yeah, they were.

[Fran]

They really were.

[Ria]

They really got. It's wild.

[Fran]

They were trying to bait people, like, a lot.

[Ria]

And I think he really is, like, jaded from that. I think he has gotten, you know, he can be very, like, diplomatic in his. In his interviews, and not that he would ever be like, oh, yeah. Let me tell you, all the things like that was happening with me and Miley and Selena when we were 15, like, it's. It's over and everyone's married. Like, it's not something that they probably want to rehash because then everybody would have a million things to say.

[Fran]

If anyone's gonna talk about it, it'll be Miley Cyrus.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Fran]

I feel like she can be an open book a lot of times.

[Ria]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Fran]

And she'll just be like, it was fucking crazy.

[Ria]

Yeah. And it's just not that. It's just not that deep because it's like, for us, it was that deep. It is deep.

[Noah]

I know.

[Ria]

It's just, like, so crazy, though, because for us, it was so deep because it just, like, took over our lives. It's literally all we cared about for them.

[Fran]

They're like, we were so.

[Ria]

You guys are obsessed with my relationship when I was 15. Like, imagine. I can't even imagine what life would be like if I was constantly asked about the person I dated when I was 15.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Ria]

It would not be fun. I'd be like, I don't. Shut up.

[Fran]

Yeah. Like, let's put, like, Nick's. Like, I am a married man.

[Noah]

Yeah.

[Ria]

Yeah, exactly. But no, they were that. It did. It did make me giggle watching them. Watching them talk.

[Fran]

For sure, it made me laugh, but it was also making me slightly uncomfortable.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Fran]

Because I was like, okay, you could laugh, Nick. It's all right here. But besides that, I think that we really just want to dive into Harry's whole album song by song, because my goodness gracious, am I thrilled. I listened to this on Friday by the pool, had a nice weekend in Florida, just, you know, some family, some family fun. It was great. And then Friday the album comes out, and I'm like, oh, the perfect time to listen to this in the sunshine, then in my headphones, then on the plane, then at home on the. On the Netflix show. Like, I was like, oh, my God. I was just eating it all up. So I think we're gonna get into Harry Styles album song by song discourse, as well as the weekly Watch report, because we have a lot to discuss with that and a great interview with Tara and Johnny, which we are so, so excited about. So let's get into it. We're so excited to be headed back on tour with Rum Haven. This weekend. We are going to be serving up some delicious Rum Haven cocktails in Seattle and San Diego. And honestly, we're going to have a nice time on a little rooftop drinking some Rum Haven, maybe having a little photo shoot. And we cannot wait for it, because right now, the world is loud, it's filtered, it is fake. But not here, not with us and not with Rum Haven. Rumhaven is where the noise fades and the real comes out, where you can unbutton expectations and sip on what's true and what's natural. And that is rumhaven. One taste of pure cane sugar and real coconut water will let you feel the difference. And it's what real tastes like. That place, that feeling, that mindset where everything finds its balance. So open up a bottle of rumhaven, lose that small talk and find the good vibes, because the best moments aren't fake. They're simply real. Like Rom Haven made for real. So exciting. Harry Styles new album, Kiss all the Time Disco occasionally came out on Friday. And listen, ladies and gentlemen. Mostly ladies. I was, you know, a little bit nervous because I have high hopes for my guy Harry. I was like, am I gonna love this album? We already got tickets to the show in London in June.

[Ria]

I'm just so excited.

[Fran]

Harry's house wasn't my favorite, but Fine Line is, like, my favorite Album ever. How am I gonna feel? Us? And the way that I feel is that I love this album. I am so thrilled. I am so happy. I also have an enormous sense of relief because, my goodness, what would I say if I didn't like this album right here, right now? I would have to, like, break it to everybody that I didn't like this album. That would be heartbreaking. That would be heartbreaking. It would. But that is not how I feel.

[Ria]

No, you couldn't have gone back to Backy too, You know, that would have been tough.

[Fran]

Oh, no. Because then it would be like, okay, so you only like Fine Line. You know, that would be really tough. No, no. I love this album. I am so excited. We're gonna go song by song. I have the track list pulled up. Short album only, 42 minutes, 12 songs. I like it, though. It's concise. Yeah. Which means I like every song on here. Like, there's not a song that I don't like.

[Ria]

And I will say, I think we probably nailed it pretty well. When we were talking about the album, when the name came out, that we thought, oh, super exciting, you know, disco, maybe. That's the kind of vibe we're getting. And then we were like, it does say disco occasionally.

[Fran]

Occasionally.

[Ria]

And honestly, I feel like I'm glad we kind of went into it thinking that way because, yes, there are totally the ones you want to get up and dance to. But then there are some, you know, deeper, slower ones that are just beautiful. Some of his best ever, I think.

[Fran]

Really. Just incredible. Harold, like, the way that you saved us with this album this weekend. Like, thank you so much. Thank you from the bottom of my heart, Harry Edward Styles, I love you. I freaking love you. Anyways, we'll start from the top. So the first song on the album is Aperture.

[Ria]

Yep.

[Fran]

Now, this was the first single on the album.

[Ria]

Yep.

[Fran]

And I have to say, Aperture probably on my bottom list of songs that I like on this album.

[Noah]

Really?

[Fran]

Yes.

[Ria]

That's still pretty high on mine.

[Noah]

That's like a top five for me.

[Fran]

Oh, really? Yeah. I still love it, but I love so many that this kind of falls towards the bottom for me.

[Ria]

That's fair.

[Fran]

Which was.

[Noah]

When you listened to the album, did you listen to Aperture first or do you skip it because you're like, I already heard it.

[Fran]

No, I listened to Aperture first.

[Ria]

I skipped it on my first listen. My first and second listen, I skipped it. But then as like, walking around or like, doing cleaning in the apartment or walking the dog, I'm starting with number One. So then I would press, then I would go Aperture all the way to the end.

[Fran]

Yeah. First listen, I listened to it and I just was more and more surprised each song by how much I loved each one. And it got better and better to me as it went on. Although I do love a lot of the initial songs. But Aperture, we already discussed, so we can move on from that. American Girls. This is gonna be an instant hit.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Fran]

For. For most people. Noah even texted me on the side. He was like, this is a banger. And I'm like, absolutely.

[Noah]

That's either that or Aperture is probably my favorite.

[Ria]

Yeah. American Girls, it's just very catchy. Certainly not his, like, deepest, but it is catchy as hell. And I love the music video. Honestly, one too many tears shed for me on TikTok this weekend. Like, I just. Sometimes it just gets you and all the fan. I was getting so many fan edits and everything. And there's a lot of the fandom making some One Direction parallels from this album. Because I will say, and I think I agree that there was like some of the. More like One Direction esque sounding songs.

[Fran]

Sometimes I felt I saw someone say

[Noah]

some connections on this American Girl, specifically that it kind of has One Direction.

[Ria]

And in the music video, you know, he's. He's solo on the motorcycle. Like, that camera view is almost identical to what they did for. That's what makes you. That's what makes you beautiful. And obviously he was with the other guys and now it's just him solo and that there were. There was for sure some. Some parallels there that had people in their feels, which is so fair. I think there's probably a. You know, there's a lot of introspective moments on this album, and I've seen a lot of people fighting, you know, fans. This song's about this. No, it's about that. This song. No, it's not like. But I live in my thought processes. A song can have multiple meanings or multiple references. You know what I'm saying? Like, some people sing, see the lyrics, and they see one lyric, and they're like, the whole song is about this because of the one lyric. I'm like, well, maybe that lyric is a callback to that. Maybe the next lyric is a callback to this. Like, it can be multiple things in one song.

[Fran]

Absolutely.

[Ria]

But everyone's so quick to be like, that song's about this. That song's about that. Yeah.

[Fran]

I think he. Most artists probably draw inspiration from many things and can incorporate into one song this one's pretty straightforward. Love American girls, Friends are in love with American girls. And it's just pretty repetitive. Very, very catchy. The next song on the album is Ready, Steady Go. I love this song. I see that this is on the bottom of a lot of people's list.

[Noah]

I was surprised by that too.

[Fran]

I really love.

[Ria]

I really like this song too.

[Fran]

Immediately it brought me back to, like, shopping in Abercrombie or Hollister in middle school.

[Ria]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Fran]

Especially towards the end of the song. And when he performed it in the Netflix special, he had the. You know, the. I don't even know what it's called, but to, like, muffle his voice up a little bit, which I thought was really cool. This one I keep going back to as. As one that I really like and is pretty high up there for me on this album. I like. You know, there's. There's a couple of lyrics on. On this album where you're like, huh? But it works. Yeah. He's, like, butterflied both our bellies. I'm like, you know what? I get it. I get what he's saying. It's said in a different way, but I get it. You and me are skipping sleep with dirty feet, and it's. It's a lot of love in. In a lot of these songs. Definitely the one after that is. Are you listening yet? This is a top every song. I'm like, this is a top song for me. Are you listening yet? Really is a top three for me on this album. I freaking love this song. I just love the way that he gets into it. I love that. You know, I don't even know the word that I'm looking for, but it's like fast pace, and it just gets me going.

[Ria]

Yeah. You know, he really does love a repetitive chorus. Not in a bad way. Just like, you know what I'm saying? When you hear. And I don't know if this is gonna sound silly, but, like, when you hear the song title and it obviously matches up perfectly with the chorus, but that is the line that is repeated over and over again. So even, like, ready seti go? You're like, ready, steady, go. Like, it just immediately starts playing that one part over and over. It's all same without you listening.

[Fran]

It's.

[Ria]

Are you listening? Oh, it's so good. And he's like. It's.

[Fran]

It's like he's. He's talking to us, and he's like, are you listening yet?

[Ria]

Yeah, this one is very chatty. It's less singy and more chatty.

[Fran]

I liked it, though. I like to hear him chatty. I like the way that he performed it too. Yeah. He was very into it.

[Noah]

I was curious to see how he. Because a lot of these songs aren't, like, easy to perform, I'd say, because there's a lot of production.

[Ria]

A lot of production.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Noah]

But it was cool how he did it. Like, I thought microphones and.

[Fran]

Yeah, I thought that was really cool. The next one is Tasteback. This seems to be a crowd favorite.

[Tara Lipinski]

Yeah, I do.

[Ria]

I like Tasteback.

[Fran]

I like tasteback. I wouldn't say it's quite yet at the top of my list, but I. It's growing on me more and more. After Tasteback is the Waiting Game. Yeah.

[Ria]

This is a lull for me. These two I could kind of like. I find myself really being pulled to the first few songs and then the last few songs and these couple in the middle. I don't know what it is about. And I see people loving the Waiting Game, but I don't know what it is. There's something about that, like, the beep, beep, beep, boop, like, that's happening in the background that really, like, doesn't. I don't like it. Like, there's something that is just kind of the whole rest of it I really like. And it's weird. Cause in my head, I think I'm just so distracted by the beeps. And I'm like, if the beeps were out of this, I think I'd really love this song. But the beeps are too much for me.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Ria]

Which is. It's silly and not like, it's a crazy thing to focus on, but there's something in my brain that's like, I don't like these beeps.

[Fran]

I would say the Waiting Game and season two Weight Loss are the two songs I listen to the least.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Fran]

On this album, I think that maybe I'll go back to them a bit more to see if they'll grow on me. But right now, they are not the two that I keep going back to. Yeah. And they're kind of. I could skip them.

[Ria]

Yeah. This was a little bit of, like, the. These two. My first listen. Like, these two. I was like, okay, all right. And then. And then, you know, once we hit Coming Up Roses, I was like, right. This Coming Up Roses, the end of the album is. Is no notes. Fantastic. I was like, this might be his best consecutive songs in a row.

[Fran]

Yeah. The. The rest of it is unbelievable. After season two, Weight Loss is Coming Up Roses, which to me might Be a top three Harry Styles song in general.

[Ria]

Can we go back to season two weight loss for one second? Because I thought it was funny that he said because at first you're like, what the fuck does that mean? And he. In his Zane Lowe interview, he explained, like, you know, when you watch, like, a Netflix show and they get one season and they get signed on for another season, everybody kind of comes back with, like a glow up and they, like, look different and like, all these things. I was like, that's. That's a pretty funny concept for a song. And not sort of what I expected, but it did. It did make me laugh.

[Fran]

Yeah. It makes more sense now because I think everyone was confused at that title. Like, what is this song going to be about?

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Fran]

Still probably could have been named something else, but we'll let it slide.

[Ria]

No, but you're absolutely right about color roses. Truly. I had one of the most gorgeous songs.

[Fran]

I had to, like, take deep breaths.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Fran]

While listening to the song and still do. Because the way that it hits me so emotionally. First of all, the orchestra. This entire song musically is just gorgeous.

[Ria]

It's chills. Goosebumps every time.

[Fran]

Immediate chills. But on top of that, the lyrics for this song are probably the deepest on this album besides Paint by numbers, I think. Yeah. Because a lot of these lyrics are not super deep on. It's just a lot of fun. Yeah. But this song is so beautiful. And to me, it brings it just like. Oh, it gives you that, like, warm feeling of falling in love. And I just love it. And the laying, you know, you lay your head on my chest, I'm like, oh, yes. You know, it just. Ooh. It just does it for me.

[Ria]

Yeah. The strings. Just that second half with the strings moment is just, like, breathtaking.

[Fran]

It's just so beautiful. And I swear, like, I had to hold myself together every time I put the song on. I'm like, why am I having deep breaths? Crying to the song every time? But it just hits a part deep in my soul that I really, you know, really feel something with this song. And I think it is so beautifully done. I think it's some of his best work ever. It is a top three Harry song for me, hands down. I will continue going back to this one for the rest of my life. Like, oh, my God. And I. And I love the name of it, too.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Fran]

Beautiful.

[Ria]

I've seen people really throw everything. They. They're like this song at my wedding immediately, you know, it's just a gorgeous. And. And I don't think it's maybe like the happiest. Does that make sense?

[Fran]

Because I feel like no, but it has, you know, happy moments. Like.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Fran]

I love the phrase let's go hangover chasing. I've never heard that. I think that's fun.

[Ria]

Love that.

[Fran]

It's like that's. That's something we could say going forward. Like, you know, let's go hangover chasing tonight. Like, you're going to go get your drink on. You know, you're going to get a hangover and who cares? Because it's just me and you and we're going to deal with that. And then I absolutely just love the. But we'll see out the night with your head on my chest, me and you. Because that's just. Oh, that's where I belong, you know? Like, that is just the best feeling. And I just. I absolutely am in love with this song. It's way to go, Harry.

[Ria]

You are right. It's. It's top three, if not number one, to be honest. Like, for Harry's best songs ever. Ever.

[Fran]

Yeah. Wow.

[Noah]

Coming up, like, what would be the other ones? What are your other top Harry songs?

[Fran]

I mean, for me is up there. For me, Sign of the Times is up there.

[Noah]

Cherry, I like a lot from the first album, too.

[Fran]

Yeah. Carolina. Yeah.

[Noah]

Sweet creatures. Honestly, like.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Fran]

I think for me, she is always up there as probably my favorite.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Fran]

Harry Styles song.

[Ria]

And I'm even. I'm just going, like, not even preference, because I think everyone has their top three. That's your preference. I'm just thinking of just

[Fran]

musicality.

[Ria]

Objectively. Stunning.

[Fran]

Stunning.

[Ria]

You know?

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Ria]

Just musically like you. You no matter what kind of music you like, if you like hair, if you don't like hair or you listen to that song, you're like, that's just a stunning song.

[Fran]

Yeah. I think I'd maybe go number one. She. And then it's two and three is Sign of the Times and Coming Up Roses. But I'm going back and forth right now because right now it'd be Coming Up Roses, but Sign of the Times. Yeah. Is probably number two. And number three would probably be Coming Up Roses. But Coming Up Roses might sneak to the top with more listens because it's that beautiful and it gives me just that feeling throughout my. Throughout my whole body just chills. Next one after that is pop. Pop is so fun. I think that the rest of the songs on this album are fantastic. Like you said, no notes. 10 out of 10 for the rest.

[Ria]

This was quite the run after these last five Songs. I was like, oh, yes.

[Fran]

Pop is so fun. Pop is the one that he had Brittney Broski listen to.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Fran]

On Royal Court. Yep. And you can tell her reaction now. You know why her reaction was that way.

[Noah]

Yep.

[Ria]

Which I love too, by the way. We didn't even really talk about that. I love seeing Harry having fun and giggling, because a lot of times I do think they do. He does very serious interviews when he puts new albums out. And he always sits down with Zane Lowe, which is, like. It's interesting to listen to, but in all honesty, sometimes I listen and I'm like, do they even know what they're saying? Like, it's just, like, so. Everything's so deep.

[Fran]

A lot of music jargon.

[Ria]

Yes. It's, like, very, like, introspective. And what did this note mean? And this things. And I'm like, oh, yes, absolutely. Do that for the. For the new album. I get it. But mixing in the fun stuff for press is also great too. So seeing him do World Court, I thought was so funny and being able to make fun of himself, like, joke and laugh. His hairline joke was very funny.

[Fran]

I have to say, though, right now, Harry's hair is, like, really not doing it for me.

[Ria]

He's got that British bloody haircut. It's like an oasis. Yeah.

[Fran]

Whatever's going on. It's like. I was looking at the videos that I had on my phone from 2021 of him in concert. He looks so damn good. His hair was like, you know, like, had, like a curl to it, the whole thing. And we always love Harry, but right now, his hair, for me, is.

[Ria]

I kind of like it.

[Fran]

Really.

[Ria]

It's got kind of got that, like,

[Noah]

kind of a mullet.

[Fran]

It's giving Ryan Seacrest at times.

[Ria]

Oh, no, See, I think it's like Ryan Secret. I think it's like. No, I think it's like the Gallagher brothers situation. Like, he's got that British.

[Noah]

Did, you know, Hair transplant.

[Fran]

No. He joked on the Royal Court that he did, but he didn't. I don't. I don't think. But.

[Ria]

But yeah, it is very, like, you know, it's got the long and the tail.

[Fran]

It's almost more the sideburns here that are really long and then, like, the tail in the back.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Noah]

By the way, have you seen all the videos of him just walking around New York this weekend?

[Fran]

Yes. More people ran into him.

[Noah]

The Brooklyn Bridge.

[Ria]

I saw some people that were like, definitely did see him. And then some, like, saw Harry Styles, like, impersonator.

[Noah]

No. There was one where they said that they saw him, like, on the bridge and they were listening to the album and they showed him. And that's the video where he, like,

[Fran]

fist bumps and like, oh, yeah, my dream.

[Ria]

He really does just. He really does just love walking around.

[Fran]

He does. Like, God, I just wasn't here this weekend or else I would have been walking around.

[Ria]

Maybe I would ran into him, Right. And he's just enjoying his time because he's doing SNL this week. But he did pop into SNL for Ryan Gosling on Saturday night.

[Fran]

He did. And I was just like, oh, my God. Imagine you get tickets to snl. You're sitting and then Harry's next to you. Like, what a treat.

[Ria]

Seriously, what an absolute treat. But no, pop is so. Pop is so fun. Like, yeah, the pop and Dance no More are just fun songs.

[Fran]

I am so sickly obsessed with Dance no More. This is. Here's the thing. I am torn between this being my number one or number two on the album. Because Coming Up Rose, as I say, is.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Fran]

But in terms of dance fun. Yeah. So I'd maybe say Coming Up Roses number one, Dance no More is a very close number two. They are so, so, so different that it's hard to judge them. Dance no More is so freaking fun. And it's exactly what I was looking for from this album. Yeah. As soon as I hit play on this song, I was like, yes, yes, Harry.

[Ria]

Like, this is exactly such a.

[Fran]

Sorry to be screaming. That's why this song made me feel.

[Ria]

It's such a funny lyric.

[Fran]

It is DJ.

[Ria]

DJs don't dance no More. And they sit and you know what?

[Fran]

It's like. You're absolutely correct. You know what I mean? Like, all they're doing sometimes is pressing fucking buttons.

[Ria]

And Harry's up there, he's press his

[Fran]

buttons, he's dancing around on the stage. I am upset.

[Noah]

Me like David Bowie.

[Fran]

Yes. Like, and also gave me.

[Noah]

And then when they're Floyd.

[Fran]

Yes. Pink Floyd. Another Brick in the Wall.

[Noah]

Another Brick in the Wall.

[Fran]

Yes.

[Noah]

That's what I was saying with the way that they, like, say, like, what he said.

[Ria]

Yes.

[Fran]

That's why I ate it up. Because I love that song. And I. That, oh, gives me chills. Like, you know. Oh, God, you're so right. This one is just so, so, so good. And I'm obsessed with it. And I wanted, you know. But like, he said disco occasionally, but he gave us. He gave us disco in this. But I will say it was diabolical for him to Go from dance no more into paint by numbers.

[Ria]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Fran]

It's like, you sick son of a bitch. You had us dancing our asses off.

[Noah]

But you said breather.

[Fran]

Absolutely vibing. No, but then we had to take a crier. We didn't have to take a breather.

[Ria]

We had to take a crier. Another one. Because two spaces out, like, you gotta space up. Coming up. Roses and paintbrush.

[Fran]

You gotta.

[Ria]

You know, like, they can't be back to back.

[Fran]

But how are you gonna have me dancing to D More and then have me crying to paint by numbers? Because to me, this was my interpretation of Paint by numbers. And I'm sure other people have other interpretations, and I'm sure it can mean many things. But holding the weight of the American children whose hearts you break to me felt like one direction. Like, he's talking about maybe their breakup.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Fran]

Liam's passing. Like, I thought that there were a lot of tones. Playing with water guns was about Olivia

[Ria]

Wilde's kids, and I really don't think.

[Fran]

I don't think it is. He's saying it's a lifetime of picking one or the other kids with water guns. Watch them run.

[Noah]

Yeah.

[Ria]

No, I can't.

[Fran]

The amount of times. Oh, my God, I have chills. The amount of times they were on stage, like, spraying each other with water guns. And, like, I thought. As soon as I heard this song, I thought, oh, this feels like.

[Ria]

This felt very introspective on him and his youth and growing up.

[Fran]

And when he was asked about this, he immediately went into talking about the passing of his friend and losing a friend. So I do.

[Noah]

Yeah.

[Fran]

Think it has tones of that in this song, and that's what I took from it. And I do think it's actually pretty

[Ria]

crazy seeing the fandom fight over, like, what they think this song is about. I'm like, well, I'm sure there could be references to multiple things, but I really do think he's, you know, more so talking about his own experiences from that age and, like, how now looking back, how he felt.

[Fran]

And I just. I.

[Ria]

And losing a friend and losing somebody in the group. And.

[Fran]

Yeah, I'm not even. I guess because people are stuck on the Olivia Wilde. That didn't even cross my mind. And I still am because they're talking about.

[Ria]

They, like, oh, like the 30. You know, him mentioning 33. But I'm like, that could just be a Liam reference.

[Fran]

And they're.

[Ria]

They.

[Fran]

Yeah. Because they were all not 33 yet. So I felt this one deeply. Yeah. I thought that this was A bit of a heavy one. Another song, though.

[Ria]

Yeah, it really is.

[Fran]

And then the last one on the album is Carla Song.

[Johnny Weir]

Yeah.

[Fran]

And I think that this is a great way to wrap up this album. I think that this song is great, really. I think it's fun, interesting, and a great way to close out the album.

[Ria]

Agreed. And, you know, shout out Carla because what a dream it would be to have Harry Styles write a song dedicated to you. Carla is a real person, just one of his friends and they've, you know, had a musical connection and.

[Noah]

About Paul Simon.

[Ria]

Yeah, about Paul Simon.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Ria]

And now he's just got. You got a whole ass. Carla Song. It's a fun song. Really cool. And I think it was a really good way to end the album because it felt like a little bit of everything. It felt like a little bit of that sort of electronic synth stuff that he was. That he's doing, but also, you know, more lyrical and more singy. Does that make sense than just, like, how some of the earlier songs are? And it just kind of pulled it all together to end it in that way, because I kind of see it in, like, sections, you know, Aperture to Season two, Weight Loss. There's a lot of that. I saw people saying, you know, he had talked a lot about LCD sound system and things like that. And while, yes, there's. It's not like, in your face. Oh, my God. This totally has, like, an LCD sound system sound. There's definitely, you know, more of an electronic production element in that first half, I feel like. And then you get Coming Up Roses, you get Paint by Numbers. But then, like, Pop Dancer, more dance and more. Have way more of, like, pop and dance. No, more have a little bit more of that disco Y vibe. Then the first half is definitely, you know, you can dance to it for sure, but it definitely has more electronic production.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Ria]

So it's like a little bit of disco, but a little bit of current pop. Electronic dance music combination.

[Fran]

Just dinging it all. Yeah. I'm just totally obsessed with this album. I think that this is my second favorite Harry album ever. I think Fine Line is number one. Kiss all the Time. Disco, occasionally Number two. His debut, Number three. Although I do love his debut album. Like, that is a. That's an album that is up there for me. And I. You know, I went to bed struggling with this last night thinking, would I put that at number two or would I put this one at number two? But sometimes it's so hard to do

[Ria]

right when a new album comes out, you know, But I Just think.

[Fran]

Think right now I'm gonna put it at number two. Yeah. Maybe I'll switch back years from now.

[Ria]

Yeah. I think it's. Cause it always changes. And then when a new album comes out, that shifts everything around.

[Fran]

And also, part of me wants to respect, like, Harry's grown, you know, like, this is the music that Harry wants to put out right now, and I'm gonna support him. Right. And I love it. And then Harry's house will fall last for me. But, God, am I just feeling.

[Noah]

You want top five songs?

[Fran]

Yes, I will give my top five songs for this album. I will do. Oh, God, it's so hard to order them.

[Ria]

I love it. I. I'm so happy.

[Fran]

I just am so happy. I'm gonna do number one. Coming Up Roses. Number two, Dance. No more number three. Are you listening yet? Oh, this is too hard for me. Oh, this is too hard. Oh, God,

[Ria]

it's really hard. I don't know what to do either, because it just changes.

[Fran]

I'm gonna go paint by numbers. Yeah. And I'm gonna go Ready, Steady Go. But I do really love American Girls, and I love Carla's song and I love pop.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Fran]

So I'm.

[Ria]

All the other songs.

[Fran]

I love all the other songs. Besides the waiting game is.

[Ria]

Waiting game is easy to do. Weight loss. We both just have at the bot.

[Fran]

Oh, don't put this list out.

[Noah]

No, we're making these graphics. Come on.

[Ria]

Yeah. By the way, that's this list for sure.

[Fran]

Because that's gonna change by the time the graphic comes out.

[Ria]

I know. It always does.

[Noah]

That's the beauty of it. Ugh.

[Fran]

Cause American Girls is just so good. But I feel like that's just, like an obvious. It's obviously good, you know? Yeah.

[Ria]

But you gotta put it on the. You know, it's.

[Fran]

But I think it's just if you

[Noah]

do, you sign of the times. Obviously good, too.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Noah]

Like, the obviously good songs are. Are obviously good.

[Fran]

I. You're right. Like, I'm like, what if it's obviously good? Then why wouldn't it be in my top five?

[Ria]

Yeah, I think I would go dance. No, I think I would go Coming Up Roses. I got the same one and two going. Coming Up Roses Dance. No more American Girls. Carla's song. Ready, Steady Go. Even though aperture, like, I think does crack my top five aperture, like, would be six. Like, aperture and Ready Steady Go are. Are interchangeable in my mind.

[Fran]

I think I might have to change Paint by numbers in American Girls because I think I will listen to American Girls more yeah, but I really.

[Ria]

Paint by Numbers is a gorgeous song.

[Fran]

I just think Paint by Numbers is a gorgeous one.

[Noah]

Like you're saying, like Paint by Numbers is out.

[Fran]

Yeah, take Paint by by Numbers out and put American Girls in. But Paint by Numbers, it seems so special to me that I don't want to just neglect it. So that'll be six.

[Ria]

I think you got it. I. Yeah, I. I gotta switch.

[Noah]

There's no six.

[Ria]

Ready said. Hey. I think I really do like ready, steady, go. But if I were listening like back and forth Aperture, I'm going rapature. I think 5 is aperture for me. I do really like aperture. I think I just have bias because I've been listening to it for weeks. I've been listening to it for weeks already. What makes people not like it or not, it makes people not want to put it on their list. Because it's like I've been listening to it for weeks and now I have all these new songs to listen to. But when I think about it in the grand scheme and honestly, listening to it in the Netflix thing was actually really helpful. Like him playing it first and last. I was like, this song really fucking.

[Noah]

And obviously he loves it.

[Fran]

Yeah, he loves it.

[Noah]

Then played it twice.

[Tara Lipinski]

Yeah.

[Noah]

Yeah.

[Ria]

How about him singing from the dining table? That was awesome.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Ria]

Something he never does. And the crowd went crazy. You could hear them all singing at the top of their lungs. Because then of course he did, you know, Golden as it was. Ramen Sugar did that Sound of the Times played the hits. But then he threw in one for everybody there, which I thought was really cool because you never hear him sing from the dining table.

[Fran]

No, I'm. I'm curious about what his set set list is going to be like, cuz I'm like, are you gonna not play a song that I love from this album?

[Noah]

He's not gonna play everyone.

[Ria]

Yeah, he probably won't play.

[Fran]

Oh, but I'm like, what?

[Noah]

I don't know. No, he's not gonna play all.

[Ria]

No, he's not gonna play all.

[Fran]

He's not gonna play all of them. But concerts are pretty long though.

[Noah]

Like there's not that many. I mean, I don't. Yeah, he won't.

[Ria]

Yeah, but he never. It's not like he played every song from Harry's house. At Harry's house.

[Noah]

No. Yeah.

[Fran]

Well, I'm just thrilled. I just am so freakin happy. And I cannot wait. I can't believe we get to see this man perform this in person. Oh, God, thank you, Harry.

[Ria]

Let me tell you Something. We are going to be a goddamn puddle when he does. Coming up Roses. And they bring the whole. I'm sure he'll have the whole string section. All the musicians on stage just listening to it on Netflix. It sounded unbelievable. And just like those moments in real life when you just. When you can experience music like that and a beautiful string section like that, it's. Nothing is better.

[Fran]

It really.

[Ria]

It sends a shiver down my spine just thinking about it. It's so stunning.

[Fran]

It really is. I wish that I had written down the timestamp of the specific note.

[Ria]

Oh, yeah, I know. I know exactly what you're talking about. Oh, I know the exact.

[Tara Lipinski]

Screw you.

[Fran]

Yep.

[Ria]

I believe that's the one where I was walking to. To breakfast on Friday and just one tear fell down my face. And right as it hit that one

[Fran]

note, it's just that one.

[Ria]

Just one part. And you're like, oh, yeah. Yep. I couldn't agree more.

[Fran]

Like a thorn from a stem. Right at that part, you know?

[Ria]

And we all know the exact one we're talking about.

[Fran]

We do.

[Ria]

We all know the exact one we're talking about.

[Fran]

Well, honestly, this is my favorite album that. That has come out in a long time, like, in general. And that just fricking warms my life.

[Ria]

Thank you, Harry. Thank you, Harry.

[Fran]

I love you, Harry. Oh, my God. Good night, Manchester. All right, moving on. We're getting into the weekly Watch report, but I'm so excited to crack open a Pepsi Prebiotic Cola. This is the cherry vanilla flavor. I'm going to take a sip. I am obsessed with this cherry vanilla Pepsi Prebiotic Cola. It is so good. Whether I'm having it with my lunch as a midday pick me up, or I'm just sitting on the couch, I want to crack open a Pepsi or for dinner, really any time of the day. This works. It is so good. And it comes in two flavors. You have the classic cola or the cherry vanilla. Right now, I have the cherry vanilla in my hand and it is delicious. But you can't go wrong with the classic cola, original cola as well. It has the great Pepsi taste, but now with even more to love. No artificial sweeteners, only 5 grams of sugar and 30 calories and 3 grams of prebiotic fiber. And this is the Pepsi Prebiotic Cola. Don't miss out. It's available today and you could try it anytime. You do not want to miss out on how delicious. This is my favorite, the cherry vanilla. But you can't go wrong with the original as well. So let's take another Sip. Cheers. Everybody get your Pepsi. All right, let's get into the weekly Watch Report, where we talk about the things we watch this week. Weekly Watch report on Monday. Weekly Watch report on Monday. Weekly Watch report on Monday. Weekly Watch report Monday. I would have loved to have hit that in some sort of Harry Styles tune, but I just knew that I couldn't do it. You know what I mean? Yeah.

[Ria]

I was gonna make an attempt.

[Fran]

Are you watching yet? Are you watching it? Weekly Watch Reporty. Watching it.

[Ria]

Maybe a stretch.

[Fran]

Maybe. Nailed it. All right, starting off with I finished what I like about you. That was just a rewatch, so I'm just getting that out of the way. Season four. I'm gonna miss watching this at night. It was a nice, nostalgic rewatch, and I will get.

[Ria]

It kind of, like, ends sort of abruptly. It does. From what I recall, like, it seemed like it got canceled, and they definitely could have done more.

[Fran]

Yeah. Season four had a lot less episodes than the rest of the seasons. It's kind of bullshit.

[Ria]

Yeah. I remember that from watching it and being like. When it ended, and I was like, that's it.

[Fran]

Yeah. Something must have happened, obviously. So we'll give that a B plus. It's just a nice nostalgic show to watch. Vladimir on Netflix. Did anybody watch?

[Noah]

I.

[Ria]

No, not yet.

[Fran]

Leo Woodall and Rachel.

[Ria]

But I read the book.

[Fran]

Okay.

[Ria]

It's a funky book.

[Fran]

A whole lot of nothing happens in this show. Really? Yeah. Besides all the adults just being really horny and not being able to keep it in their pants. Yeah, correct. And it was a fine. We watched it in one sitting on Sunday. Like eight episodes, 30 minutes each. We were just bedrotting and watch the show fully. I'll give it a C. Yeah. Plus.

[Ria]

Yeah, fine.

[Fran]

I'll give it a C plus. Because I did watch it in one sitting. It was completely. I would say it was completely fine. Yeah. I.

[Johnny Weir]

The book. Really?

[Fran]

Nothing.

[Ria]

I, like, liked the book, but then I didn't like the book. But then I liked, like, I don't know, the book. I'm gonna go back and look to see what I rated the book.

[Fran]

It's just like, nothing really happens. Yeah. Besides all of them being, like, horny the entire time.

[Ria]

Which is why I was surprised they even made it a show. Cause in my mind, I was like, yeah.

[Fran]

And I don't want to spoil anything if someone were to watch it, but you're kind of just waiting for this one thing to happen, and then it happens at the end, and then. And that's it kind of, you know, that's really. So. It was. Meh. I'll give it a circle. Southern charm. I will give a C minus. This episode. It took a dip this episode for me. I don't know. I kind of was just, like, over it.

[Ria]

Because of what?

[Fran]

I don't know. Just like, I got tired of. I got tired of the storyline.

[Ria]

Well, it's over now.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Ria]

The finale is this week.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Ria]

So that's super fair. I mean, it's just like, I'll give

[Fran]

her a C. I won't get a C minus.

[Ria]

I get where they. They were all at. They kind of had to wrap up the. This Mexico trip, that sweat house did.

[Fran]

I don't.

[Ria]

I looked like they were really sweaty. I just don't like to be that close. Like, I'm fine experiencing something like that. Like, I get the idea of it really sweat.

[Fran]

Sure.

[Ria]

But when you're that close to people and everyone's sweating.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Ria]

I don't know how I feel. I don't know how I feel about that. Yeah. But Craig had some pretty unreal lines in.

[Fran]

Oh, my God.

[Ria]

That's what I gotta say. I said it to you guys. I said, oh, my God. When he was eating lunch with Whitney, and he said, I mean, I'm perfectly imperfect.

[Fran]

Oh, God.

[Ria]

And, you know, anytime I hear I'm perfectly imperfect, it just goes to the camp rock song. Like, the camp rock song immediately starts playing in my head. Perfectly imperfect. But I wouldn't. And I'm surprised Craig didn't break out into that song.

[Fran]

I think it's because all. All of them kind of annoy me.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Fran]

So I'm like, all right, we could wrap this one up.

[Ria]

Yeah. It's just. And I'm curious to see how it goes at the reunion, to be honest, because I feel like Charlie was really telling Craig, like, one thing and maybe talking. Craig had a different idea when they weren't filming or whatever. And then when the cameras are on, because in all the interviews, Charlie is. Doesn't really seem that into it. But Craig seems so worried about potentially ruining this potential relationship that there had to have been more to it. But after his blow up, she was like this.

[Fran]

I don't.

[Ria]

I don't see anything romantic. So we'll see it all play out on the reunion.

[Fran]

Yeah, they. They did reveal their. Their cast photo for the reunion, so I'm sure they'll be interesting summer house. I have to say, I'm really enjoying the newbies. I think Bailey is really funny and cute and brings, like, fresh air to the show and her.

[Ria]

Certainly her mind.

[Fran]

She does. And like, she's cracking me up with the flirting. Yeah.

[Ria]

And all the flirting thing was funny. The preview of her bringing up Ben wanting to fudge Amanda at the dinner table, though, that was bold.

[Tara Lipinski]

Yeah.

[Fran]

It is bold. But like, we need someone to come in. Yeah. And do that and shake things up. Yeah. And so I appreciate that. I'm enjoying the season. I'm interested now where things are going to go with west and Sierra because we see a little preview to, like, west missing Ciara. We get the Jesse and Ciara stuff unfolding.

[Noah]

Yeah.

[Fran]

Ciara kind of broke my heart this episode.

[Ria]

Same, same.

[Fran]

Just like her talking about her feelings and her saying, like, I just feel like everyone wants to, like, experience me. It broke my heart listening to her say that and how she feels that people view her because she is absolutely stunning. But there is so much more to her as well. Totally. So I thought this was a good episode. I'll give it a B. I'm always enjoying Summer House.

[Ria]

That's gotta be so frustrating for her. And it really does break my heart as well because is just so gorgeous and so cool and all the things and guys are probably really weird to her and make her feel a certain way and, you know, it's like being objectified in a way that. Where he's like, oh, my, My. My friend that. I thought we were really close. He's saying he wants to make out with me as a joke. It's like, oh, why? So you can just say that you got to make out. Like, make out with me because you, you know, talk about. Everyone says I'm talking about being. She's being so hot and all these things.

[Fran]

And

[Ria]

yeah, Jesse didn't really, like. I feel like he didn't even know what to say. You know, he was like, yeah, sorry. You know, like, he just.

[Fran]

He handled that poorly.

[Ria]

Didn't quite know how to explain himself. He handled the whole thing kind of poorly in a way. It's like. Like Sierra said, it's like, why even ask Wes how you feel about it without talking to me? Like, you.

[Fran]

Right.

[Ria]

It's.

[Tara Lipinski]

Yeah.

[Fran]

You don't even know she was interested. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'll give Summerhouse a B. Survivor third episodes this week. I've watched the first two episodes. I will give Survivor a B plus right now. Super into this season. The second episode hooked me even more than the first. I won't spoil anything for anybody who has not. Is not watching yet or has not caught up because there's time to Catch up, people, because we're only two episodes in, but this is gonna be a good one. There was a great ending to this episode. A little sneaking around, a little planting of fake idols, fake clues, all that good stuff. And I am rooting for Christian, but he's such a big personality that I could see him being a huge threat that people will be after. And I'm rooting for Sari, as always, and I like her alliance with Ozzy. So we'll see. We'll see what happens. But this season is gonna be great. Season 50, ladies and gentlemen, buckle up. House of Villains is back on. Peacock. The thing that House of villains does. Joe McHale's a host. Is that they, like, he almost leans into it too much of it being like, a. Making fun of itself. Like, they make fun of the show, but it's, like, constant.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Fran]

And I'm like, all right, so are we supposed to be taking this show seriously? And obviously it's a reality. You don't take it seriously, but you know what I mean, right? Watch the first episode. I will continue watching. I'll give it a B. I am intrigued there. It's an interesting cast, and it caught my attention as something I'll just throw on to catch up with Ted. Season two is out F. Did you watch season one? Yeah. Funny. Oh, yeah, very funny. Very enjoyable. I've only watched the first two episodes, actually, so still gotta catch up. But it's funny. I'll give it a B. Enjoyable quick episodes. It's a cheat code having the bear make facial expressions or do dirty things because you're like, oh, my God, how is this bear doing that? And it just makes you laugh. Love is blind. We watched. I will give those episodes a B. Or the last episode. I mean, you know, once it gets to the end, you're like, all right, tell me if you got married or not. I think the reunion's gonna be really good. I've seen some spoilers about what has happened, what has transpired. I haven't seen any people messaged me after talking about it. Yeah. And then I was like, oh, shit, wait.

[Ria]

I saw it too. But they were like, do you want to know? I'm like, no, I don't want to know.

[Fran]

I didn't. I didn't say yes. It's just, here's what happened. But I'm still looking forward to watching. That'll be interesting. And then watch 56 Days on Prime. That's with Dove, Cameron, and Avan Jogia. I don't know if I'm Pronouncing that right. But he was from Victorious Dove Cameron, we know her from Disney Channel days as well. This show is good. This. This show I am interested in. I'm only three episodes in. I will give it a B for now because I am pretty intrigued at what these two are hiding. Cause there's some secret that's going on. Clearly both of them are hiding something. Yeah. And I've heard that there's a lot of twists and turns and people have said how good and crazy it gets. So I'm only on third episode here.

[Ria]

I watched the first episode and didn't love it. Like, I didn't go back to it.

[Fran]

Oh, I don't know.

[Ria]

I just like. Yeah, I. Maybe I'll give it a try. We got a couple long flights coming up.

[Fran]

Yeah, I'll let you know. But I was just in the TV watching zone yesterday, and I saw a

[Ria]

lot of people, like, girls were messaging me about this show too, saying, like, I would love it. And I watched the first episode, like, last week, like, when they. When it came out, I'd seen it, and I, like, didn't really love the first one. So I was like, I don't know if I'm gonna even keep watch. Like, it just kind of seems sort of ridiculous.

[Fran]

Oh, okay. Well, I'm gonna continue watching it because I'm three episodes in. Yeah. And at this point, now think it's. No.

[Ria]

Now you gotta know.

[Fran]

Now I gotta know what happens. I gotta know what these two are hiding and the whole thing. And that is everything. I wrote down that I watched.

[Ria]

Southern Charm. I'll give a B minus. Summer House. I'll give a B plus. Thought it was a good episode. Anything else that you had said that I had also watched?

[Noah]

No.

[Ria]

Chicago crossover event.

[Fran]

Oh, shit. It happened.

[Ria]

It happened. It was Wednesday night, and I was locked in for those three hours. Haley was back, Jay was back. You're bringing back some familiar faces that we miss seeing. Good crossover, good plot. Very scary. Like, legit. Pretty scary because it was. The premise was like a plane was flying into Chicago Airport, and they lost communication with the plane, but it seemed like it was operating still properly and was, like, coming in for the landing and everything. And the plane lands, and they go on to the plane and everybody's dead. And there was, like, a. Some sort of toxin that was released.

[Fran]

Oh, my God.

[Ria]

In the air on the plane. And they're like. And they're, like, bleeding from the eyes.

[Fran]

Oh, my God.

[Ria]

Like, it was like, ah. Like, it was kind of freaky and of course. Fire, PD Med. They're all putting together how, why this happened, who did it, what's happening, what's. What's the cause? And I just love seeing Hayley and Jay back. That made me so happy. It was really. I mean, as an A. I was locked in. Well done. Well, well done, Dick. You did it, Mr. Wolf. Good one. Tournament of Champions. Food Network is back.

[Fran]

It's back.

[Ria]

It's back. Yes. Which I absolutely love. It's just the best Food Network show to put on and enjoy. Joe and I love it. It's so good. The first two episodes are out, which, honestly, like, b. It's so good.

[Tara Lipinski]

I love it.

[Ria]

Good twist. This year, all the one seeds are. All the one seeds are people that have never competed on tournament champions before, but they're like culinary legends.

[Noah]

Mmm, I like that.

[Ria]

So they're. They're big names, and it's a surprise. They keep their identity hidden until right before the. Right before the match. And a lot of them have been judges, but they've never actually competed on the show, which really, really interesting to watch. And I. You know, it's just one of those fun ones that you throw on that you really enjoy. Paradise caught up, man. I. I love this show. I think it's fantastic. I thought each episode was, like, different and interesting, and, you know, you. Oh, it always. It'll tie all together at some point, but you're getting sort of all these individual stories. I forgot how up Jane was. I kind of forgot about that. And then she pulled that mood with the President. I was like, what the fuck is this girl's deal? Like, what is she? What is her end game? I do not know.

[Noah]

It's crazy how the. Like, I kind of forgot about the finale.

[Ria]

I forgot about the finale a little bit. I had to go rewatch.

[Noah]

What was the thing that she wanted that was absurd. Like, we.

[Ria]

Yeah, the Wii. Like, yeah. And I was like, is she good? And then that happened. And then the other Secret Service member, I'm like, what is her end game here? I don't. Because at first it seemed like, oh, she was on one side. And then it was like, oh, she did that. But to potentially protect Xavier. But now this isn't protecting Xavier at all. I don't know. I'm like, I don't get what side she's on. I guess we'll find out.

[Noah]

I do. Like, Shailene Woodley's edition.

[Ria]

She was really, really good. Now, episode four, which is the most recent one.

[Fran]

Holy.

[Ria]

Like, I needed a trigger warning for the amount I was sobbing like a baby. It just was brutally sad. Just like next. I mean it was, it was a beautiful episode and it was so interesting and well done. And honestly, like even brings up a bigger conversation of. Of modern medicine and science and childbirth and all these things that we have now and that these they had in the bubble but didn't have outside the bubble. And it was a heart wrenching episode. I saw maybe one person post about how sad it was and I was like, oh, okay, like what? You know, how sad could it be? Just from the way that the show's been knocked me off. I couldn't believe. I was like, thank God I was. I think I watched on Friday night when I was just. I was home and I was like, thank God no one else is. I don't have any plans. It ruined my whole night. But I'm really, it's. I'm very intrigued to see how this all plays out now. And there's always no, it's like always one thing after the next. You know, he. Xavier gets to the next point and it's like, oh, here's another. Like he's another obstacle. Like, oh, he finally gets to Atlanta and the guy's like, she's out here. Like, God damn it. Like, where is she?

[Noah]

Also when he was like he kind of at first made it seem like she had like moved on from him and they like were together. I was like, no way.

[Ria]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Paradise also has really good music a la love Story. Like we're just the paradise jingle making

[Noah]

fun of this so much. Oh, I love know jingle but like

[Ria]

that they'll not a jingle but it's the, you know.

[Noah]

No, but that they'll have like famous songs but sung by like random people.

[Ria]

Oh yes. Well, that I'm not even talking about that. I'm talking about like the they're like theme song. You know, it's like that is different and paradise has its own as well. That's honestly, you know, it's not too far off from the love story one to be honest. But it's. It's good. And God, it just killed me. But paradise is like an A minus really. I really, really like Paradise. I think it is.

[Noah]

I actually watched.

[Ria]

I really wish it was Binge Binge

[Noah]

from last season again yesterday. Yeah, I was like, I got to watch that again.

[Ria]

So fair. I'm so intrigued to see how Thomas Doherty's character gets all. Because I'm also like, is Xavier going to have psychic powers? It seems like that. It seems that way it seems like he's starting to be able to look into the future.

[Noah]

Yeah.

[Ria]

Like, what's. I don't know what's happening, but they're. Jeff and I were talking about it, too, because he was like, the show is going to go supernatural, like, for sure. I was like, yeah, I could definitely see. I could definitely see that happening. Speaking of love story, the wedding episode was out this. This week as well.

[Fran]

Watch that as well.

[Johnny Weir]

Yeah.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Noah]

Can we just love each other?

[Ria]

Yeah. You know, I. This one was better than the last.

[Fran]

Better. There was less of.

[Ria]

Yeah. Less dialogue for him. Like, less speaking from him. Calvin Klein was the star of this episode, too.

[Johnny Weir]

Oh, yeah.

[Ria]

Like, really like that. And I don't. The discourse around this episode, around this show has gotten to be so crazy because you have. You have Daryl Hannah coming out and saying, you know, they portray me in this way, and it's not me, and none of this stuff is true. And it's. I saw a girl on TikTok talking about this. It's like reading comprehension, watching comprehension. That in front of us, we are watching a show that says at the beginning, much of this is fictionalized. And people watch a show and they still see the character, and they believe every single second and every word said, and they think that every single thing that Daryl Hannah did in this show she did in real life.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Ria]

And so she had to come out and be like, I didn't do that. Like, I didn't show up to the wake or do this. Like, it's just things that I didn't do. And it's all for a show.

[Tara Lipinski]

And

[Ria]

people watch it and think that it's real. Every detail is real. And, yeah, there's, like, certain things, you know, you watch the wedding. Yes. She was allegedly hours late because there was an issue with the dress, which is, you know, you watch it happen. But the little details on the conversation and, like, the mom's rehearsal dinner speech, that's We. That's made up. Like, you know, so it's. You kind of. You have to watch it with that mindset, and people really don't, which is so crazy. And then they attack the real person. So I thought. I felt bad that she had to, like, put out a statement to be like, I didn't do all these. All these things. But this episode, of course, you have these really intense moments of, like, Dana Gordon calling JFK out at the rehearsal dinner of, like, you better fucking give. Like, watch her and all these things. You're like, I don't know. You know, they made it as intense as possible for the show.

[Fran]

Right.

[Ria]

Because we don't have a play by play of what happened at the very first thing.

[Noah]

You keep calling her Dana Gordon.

[Ria]

I can't think of her anything about Danny Gordon. I'm so sorry.

[Noah]

She's been on Chicks in the Office.

[Ria]

Yes.

[Fran]

Because she did. Unreal.

[Noah]

Yeah.

[Fran]

But she is so Dana Gordon.

[Ria]

But it's just like she's Dana Gordon

[Fran]

with a wig on.

[Ria]

Like, I can't. It's. It's. It's crazy. But I mean, the wedding itself. Stunning.

[Fran]

Yeah. So, so beautiful.

[Ria]

It's gorgeous.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Ria]

Absolutely gorgeous. Found myself googling that island

[Fran]

and, you

[Ria]

know, having to do it all by candlelight and all that. It's just. It was gorgeous. And she. She did look stunning and that was that. But. Oh, and maybe one too many, like, ocean plane foreshadowing moments in this episode as well. Like when they were sitting on the beach and they were like, isn't it so crazy? Like, this ocean is the same ocean as in Hyannis and it's so vast and so huge. I'm like, yeah, they were really playing a lot of really, really planting the seed for what's to come and even like her mom with, you know, protect her and all these things. And you're like, oh, right. Certainly leading towards what happened. I think not. Is next week the next last one?

[Fran]

I think there's two more.

[Ria]

Was this episode seven or eight?

[Noah]

That was. That was six. Oh, the next one's seven.

[Ria]

Okay, so there's a bunch more. I think there's nine total. Can you look at how many total? There are nine from what I looked last.

[Noah]

Nine.

[Ria]

Nine. Yes. And Love is Blind. I'll give a B as well. The final wedding episode.

[Fran]

That's it.

[Ria]

I mean, watch Harry Styles. But I feel like we, you know, you talked about that kind of a special.

[Fran]

It's an A plus. Yeah.

[Noah]

Yeah. And then when I was watching the Harry Styles thing, I still was like, it was very well done, obviously, but I still was like, it doesn't like we. We've been to a one night only. It doesn't. Like you'll never be able to capture.

[Ria]

No. You really can't.

[Fran]

Healing in real life. Yeah.

[Noah]

Because it's just. You don't feel like you're there.

[Fran]

No.

[Ria]

You just. It's.

[Fran]

It.

[Ria]

It really is like. It really is once in a lifetime.

[Noah]

Like when he's like, doing stuff to the crowd like this, I'm like, imagine like being in the crowd and like. Yeah. Roar. Like.

[Tara Lipinski]

Yeah.

[Noah]

Hear that?

[Ria]

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[Noah]

okay, I will go through this quickly. I watched Industry Finale, Season four Finale. I didn't even mention that I watched. I stopped putting it in my weekly watchboard. Cause I'm like, I just feel like I don't even know what's going on, but I'm not giving it my all. Although I will just put it here to say that, like, Kit Harington had a great performance. He's an incredible actor. And I was happy with what his character did in this final episode. And I thought they wrapped it up very well. Although it's not over, I don't think. Or is it over? I don't even know if they're coming back.

[Ria]

Another season, you mean?

[Noah]

Yeah, but I thought it was just a really good finale. Either way, I'll give it a B. And I started that show. I watched the first two episodes that are out DTF St. Louis.

[Fran]

Yeah, I wanna watch that.

[Noah]

Jason Bateman. It was. It's good. It's weird, but it's good. And it's like a murder mystery type thing. And Jason Bateman, like, he's a good actor, but I do. It's just funny. I like. He's kind of like the same character and everything he does to me, the way that.

[Fran]

Yeah. His cadence.

[Noah]

Yeah. But I like it so far. I'll give it a B plus. Like, I'm pretty locked in paradise. I'll give a B plus. Yeah. Like, I just. I'm excited to get back to the bubble.

[Ria]

I keep saying, did that episode bring a tear to your eye at all or.

[Noah]

No.

[Ria]

Oh, man. Oh, God, it was brutal.

[Noah]

Yeah. No, it didn't.

[Ria]

But you get it. I mean, objective.

[Noah]

I mean, I can see why it would.

[Ria]

Yes.

[Noah]

I feel like Shane, like, I don't know if this is a spoiler. I guess it is. But, like, it's like, she was in the show so for such a little time that I wasn't, like, too attached to her being like, oh, now she's gone.

[Ria]

Like, no, no. It was just the way it had.

[Noah]

It's the way it happened now.

[Fran]

It wasn't.

[Ria]

I wasn't like, I was so attacked. I just thought. I thought she was just gonna. And I just had no idea. Like, I thought she was gonna be in it way more.

[Noah]

Yeah. I'm just like, damn. Now Xavier, like, he's got even more responsibility. Yeah.

[Ria]

The responsibilities are piled.

[Noah]

Now he's got another kid.

[Ria]

I know.

[Fran]

And he.

[Ria]

And whenever they cut back to, like, those, like, sweet moments with James Marsden, I'm like, damn. You know, he did make a good present.

[Noah]

I was like, that's what I. And then when I watch episode seven again, I'm like, damn, I need more James Morrison.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Ria]

And it's just, you know, he got got. He got. Got early.

[Fran]

He got.

[Ria]

Got early.

[Noah]

Yeah. So that's a b. The beauty.

[Ria]

I'm not caught up.

[Noah]

You haven't caught up. Okay. Well, it's. That was.

[Ria]

I watched episode eight, so the last

[Noah]

two episodes came out, which were the finale. Oh, okay. Which. When I watched it, I didn't know it was. I thought there was another one.

[Ria]

The last one I watched was when he. His kids. His. They changed his kids.

[Noah]

Oh, yeah. Yeah.

[Ria]

He's like. His weird kids.

[Noah]

That's like, a couple episodes really, like, it's good. It's definitely, like. So it's over.

[Ria]

You watched the whole thing?

[Noah]

Yeah, it's over. Although I don't know if they're renewed, but they really, like. It's a cliffhanger that they leave you, like, a. Like, giant cliffhanger. There was one thing in this last episode that was so disgusting and, like, there's been some. But this was like. This one was one of those ones where, like, I'm, like, in bed thinking about it.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Noah]

Like, trying to get it out of my.

[Fran]

Trying to erase it.

[Noah]

And yes. It makes.

[Ria]

Even the opening intro. I don't like.

[Noah]

Oh, I skip it.

[Ria]

There's no. But there's no skip Button.

[Noah]

There is for me.

[Ria]

Oh, there is. For some reason, there isn't for me. And I have to, like, manually fast forward, which. Cry me a river. I have to manually fast forward, but with the.

[Fran]

You're already seeing. I'm like.

[Ria]

I'm like.

[Noah]

Like, you're stuck watching it so bad. Like, I don't think it's a spoiler, but, like, this kid, like, gets. Like, all the kids are starting to take it.

[Ria]

Ashton Kutcher says he's game to do a second season, but it is not officially renewed.

[Noah]

Ryan Murphy might be too busy with these love stories.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Noah]

Clearly bringing in more views.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Noah]

But I'll give it a B minus. Like, I think I liked it at the beginning more. And now it's kind of taken, like, just a wild, like. But you should have seen it coming. It's so gross. But, yeah, B minus. I started the first few episodes of that young Sherlock show. Heard is good. Huge Guy Ritchie fan. So, like, I was excited about that. Hero finds Tiffin. He's good. And even, like, Colin Firth is in it, which I didn't know. So a lot of people, you know,

[Ria]

let me tell you, you can always throw Colin Firth in. Some sort of, like, British production. Especially maybe Sherlock Holmes. Yeah, he's gonna be in that. But no, that's a big show for hero.

[Noah]

Yeah, it is. Yeah.

[Fran]

Happy for him.

[Noah]

Yeah, he's good. And it's just classic Guy Ritchie, like, style.

[Ria]

Joe sent me two video clips of a GQ article that. A GQ interview that Hiro did where one, he's talking about his love for West Ham, which, you know, Joe went to one West Ham game and he's. That's his Premier League team. And then the next one was like that. He loves playing chess. And Joe is like, I fucking love this guy.

[Noah]

It is cool, though, to see, like, the young, you know, what is that on? It's on Prime. I feel like I've never seen or heard. I don't know if they've done, like, a Sherlock when he was younger.

[Fran]

I don't think so as a kid.

[Noah]

But it's cool to see, like, the origin. Obviously. They're just, like, making it up.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Noah]

And the pit.

[Fran]

Oh, fuck.

[Ria]

I watched the Pit.

[Noah]

Yeah.

[Ria]

I always forget the pit.

[Noah]

The pit is in a territory now for me. Like, it's just.

[Ria]

It is. It's so good. How do I. And every week I'm like, I watched it too.

[Fran]

A.

[Noah]

Like, for some reason, I forgot how many episodes there were last season. So I was like, oh, shit. It's like this was like nine or something. I'm like, it's gonna be like one or two more. There's 15, so we got. We got a lot more to go.

[Ria]

Oh, there is.

[Noah]

Yeah.

[Fran]

They're very giving.

[Noah]

It makes sense. Cause it's like a shift.

[Ria]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Noah]

But really good. I don't think, like, it's a spoiler either to say that Robbie is like kind of hinting that he's gonna kill himself now. Like, that. That like, he's basically like. That's kind of what he's hinting at. Like, when he goes on sabbatical, he's not coming back.

[Fran]

Oh, well.

[Ria]

I feel like it's not even necessarily what he's saying. I felt like it was when the other hot doctor. What's his name?

[Noah]

His name.

[Ria]

You know who I'm talking about. Not land, not the other one.

[Noah]

Military.

[Ria]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. He's a sexy man. When he.

[Noah]

You see there were since courtside together at the Lakers. Yeah.

[Ria]

When he was like, you know, if you like, if you need me, call me.

[Noah]

Yeah. He's like, it's a lot of like, self acting time. Yeah, much for you.

[Ria]

Like, if it's too much, I. Call me. That's when I kind of was like.

[Noah]

But then when he sat the younger doctor down too, and it was like, you want to live my house and if I don't come back, it's yours.

[Tara Lipinski]

Yeah.

[Noah]

Like, he's just kind of like, right.

[Ria]

Yep, yep.

[Noah]

But very good show.

[Ria]

It's so good.

[Noah]

Yeah. That's an A. Jfk. I like that. I keep calling it jfk. It's a C minus for me, but I will continue to watch it every time.

[Fran]

Oh, did we grade it? No, I'll give it a B.

[Ria]

This episode was a B minus for me.

[Noah]

Yeah. I just can't get past it. And then like, I don't know. It's hard to not let everyone, like, who's actually like, related to or being portrayed or family members.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Noah]

Terrible things to be like, full. It is, but it is just a fiction. Yeah, it's just whatever.

[Ria]

You just have to not watch it and be like, wow, I can't believe Carolyn's mom said that to him. It's like, well, we don't know.

[Noah]

I just can't see. I just cannot see JFK Jr being like this whiny. Like, I. I just don't buy it.

[Ria]

That's fine. You don't have to buy it.

[Noah]

He seems like a whole.

[Ria]

It's a fictionalized version of him.

[Noah]

Like, Yeah, I don't know. So, yeah, it's a C minus. I watched the four part dinosaurs.

[Fran]

Oh, I want to watch this.

[Ria]

Okay. I had a. I made a note about this, like, when I saw the trailer weeks ago, being like, oh, my God, I want to watch this. But I actually think I'll sob my eyes out because it's like, spoiler. We know what happens. Like, as you watch a dinosaur show, they make you fall in love with all these.

[Fran]

Let me tell you, all these dinosaurs.

[Noah]

Seeing the T. Rex gasper. Gasp for air. Well after the meteor hit.

[Ria]

No, see, I can't watch. I can't watch that. Sorry.

[Noah]

I actually, it's really cool.

[Ria]

I will sob my eyes out.

[Noah]

Part of me is like. I mean, not part of me. Like, all of me is like, how did they. Like, how much of this is just like. I mean, obviously they're creating storylines and it's like Morgan Freeman, like, narrating. So you need to like.

[Fran]

Yeah, but I'm like, create these fictional

[Ria]

storylines just for them to all be blown up and die.

[Noah]

But it is like the. Honestly, the craziest part watching is like, because they have like, it starts like 250 million years ago, and then it'll like, fast forward to be like, now we're now. Like, it's crazy when you think about. I don't even know if I knew, like, how long the dinosaurs fucking ruled the world. Yeah, it was.

[Fran]

Imagine they were still here.

[Noah]

150 to 200 million years. They were. I looked up. How long do you think humans have been on the first human. How long do you think we've been around? And the dinosaurs were blown up 66 million years ago. Just

[Ria]

the first man was. What? I've seen him. He's in Italy.

[Noah]

What, caveman?

[Ria]

Yeah, like, the first remnants of. The man is in Bolzano.

[Fran]

Yes, yes, I know.

[Noah]

You're talking about. They have them propped up.

[Ria]

Yeah, you could see, but I don't know. I mean, I could throw out a really stupid number. 10,000 BC.

[Noah]

Well, let's say how many years ago. That's easier because I don't know how like the.

[Fran]

Oh, I know that. I know you're.

[Ria]

That that makes it way harder.

[Fran]

That's math.

[Noah]

Yeah.

[Fran]

No, you're trying to make me.

[Noah]

300,000 years ago is what they say. So that's like nothing compared to way

[Ria]

more than I see.

[Noah]

Yeah, but like, that. That's like still like 66 million years before, like, the dinosaurs were gone. It's hard to process that, but it is cool. I mean, it's very cool. I mean, it's like. I don't know, the animation stuff.

[Ria]

Otzi is in Bolzano. He's Otzi the iceman. He's a 5,300-year-old natural mummy discovered in the Alps in 1991, dating back to around 3300 BCE. He's remarkably preserved. But even that wouldn't have been, obviously, the oldest.

[Noah]

I don't know how they do it. And obviously, they take a lot of liberties, I'm sure.

[Ria]

You know, it just really makes me think about the planet, like, way too much. And I just read Project Hail Mary, and that's also about, like, Earth. If Earth was to, like, blow up.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Ria]

And, you know, you just kind of get to the point where you're like, it's probably bound to happen.

[Noah]

It's just crazy that, like, the. The settings that they're into, like, because it's, like, snowing a lot, and you're like, I didn't really think about the dinosaurs, like, walking around in the snow.

[Fran]

Right.

[Noah]

And then they, like, finally get to this point where, like, the dinosaurs are ruling the world, everything's going well, and then it's just the meteor gone crazy.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Noah]

But very cool. And so, like. And obviously Morgan Freeman just. That's.

[Fran]

Oh, yeah. That voice the entire time.

[Ria]

Yeah, that's what I'm saying. I think I just cry. Like, they just. Like, they all just die.

[Noah]

You know what? You know what's also crazy? I was thinking about is that, like, alligators and, like, birds and, like, they've been around this whole time, like, they were around with the dinosaurs. It's crazy.

[Fran]

That is wild.

[Noah]

I'll give that a B plus. Like, just kind of crazy.

[Ria]

I gotta get my. I know my dad will be all over that.

[Fran]

Yeah, Love that.

[Noah]

Yeah. I watched the movie Dead Man's Wire. It's a new movie. It's with what's His Face from Strange. Well, first of all, it's Bill Skarsgrd, one of the Skarsgrd sons.

[Ria]

And then Bill's the one that does it.

[Noah]

It's Dante Montgomery, the guy from Stranger Things. But very good movie. True Story. I'd highly recommend it. Just like, Crazy Story, I'll get a B plus. Although, you know, it's on the edge of A. And then I watched Rooster, the Steve Carell Show.

[Fran]

I want to watch that, too.

[Noah]

It's the same guy who created Ted Lasso and Shrinking, so I kind of knew what I was getting into.

[Ria]

Is it Bill Lawrence?

[Noah]

If that's. Yeah, that's A guy I don't know. I'm not loving it so far. I'll give it C, like, I think you probably.

[Ria]

By the way, speaking of shrinking, I give this last week's episode a B plus. I watched that, too. Yeah, throw that in.

[Noah]

But it's very much in that realm. And Steve Carell is just like playing Steve Carell, but, yeah. So that's a C. And that's all I got.

[Fran]

I want to watch that one, too. All right. That is everything we watch. There's a lot that I want to catch up on. So, yeah, we got some more travel this week, so we'll. We'll be watching stuff on the plate and have more for next Monday. But that is everything we watched. Picture this. It's Monday morning, you open up your laptop, and Outlook hits you with 87 unread emails. Your calendar now looks like a game of Tetris. Your boss wants a report, your team wants a presentation, and you just want to take a nap. Enter Microsoft Copilot. Copilot summarizes your emails, and boom, you're caught up. It drafts your report in Word, it builds your slides in PowerPoint, even pulls insights from your Excel data. Suddenly, you're the office hero. You're organized, you're responsible, and you're just all ready to go. All because Copilot did the stuff that you didn't want to. So if you want to reclaim your time and get your life together, try Microsoft Copilot. Copilot. Because sometimes the smartest move is letting AI do the work. Learn more at Microsoft.com M365 copilot All right, everyone, we are joined by two very special guests. They are Olympians. They are figure skating analysis. They are, you know, faithfuls that we know and love, and they are best friends. Everybody, welcome Tara Lipinski and Johnny Weir. Thank you so much for joining us.

[Johnny Weir]

It's absolutely our pleasure. Thanks for having us.

[Ria]

Oh, we're. We're so excited for so many reasons, right? Because we love Traders. At the same time, we're just coming off an Olympics, a Winter Olympics, and we get so into it. It's the. The figure skating, especially for the Winter Olympics. It's just, I, like, you end up obsessing over it every. Every time it comes back around. So it's so fun seeing you guys be a part of it. But that's why we were joking is like when you guys were coming on Traders and you're like, yeah, you know, we're figure skaters. We know each other, and everyone's like, oh, sure. I'm like, oh, my God. Nobody knows. And no one really.

[Tara Lipinski]

We got really lucky.

[Ria]

Put it together until you guys had your big reveal.

[Tara Lipinski]

Until our big reveal.

[Fran]

We can't take it anymore. We're best friends. No.

[Johnny Weir]

There's one person who has no excuse, and that's Eric Nam. Yeah. So we filmed with him for the Olympics in 2018. He was teaching us all about K Pop, so he should have alerted people if he needed to. It's like I'd met them before.

[Ria]

They were very much working together.

[Fran]

He thought he knew your handwriting, but he did it.

[Tara Lipinski]

I think what was great about it is they knew that we knew each other. We were both figure skaters. But I think our stories going in, we just really nailed it. We did it kind of seamlessly where we were just like, oh, we live on different coasts. Like, I won the Olympics when I was 15, he just started skating when he was 12. We just like, we never really knew each other.

[Ria]

We sold it in a way that was like, you guys are both in the business, but didn't really.

[Tara Lipinski]

Yeah, we would go because I think

[Ria]

it's kind of like the housewives being like, yeah, she's also another housewife, but I've never really met her.

[Tara Lipinski]

Yeah. You know, they would ask and we'd be like, yeah, sometimes we work together.

[Johnny Weir]

It was really like, that was our one move. It's our one strategy preparing for the show. Because we got the offer on the same call, we couldn't come up with a proper, like, theory or strategy. What are we gonna do? But the only thing we could control was our relationship with one another. And we thought it would be best, definitely, if we kept it to ourselves. Keep a little hush hush for the people that wouldn't know.

[Fran]

Right.

[Tara Lipinski]

And we really stayed apart for, I mean, a good chunk of the show.

[Johnny Weir]

Very uncomfortable.

[Tara Lipinski]

Very uncomfortable. But when he first came to, like, see me outside at the castle, I was, like, mad at you because.

[Johnny Weir]

Yeah, because I went for a hug. Because I hug everyone. I'm a hugger.

[Tara Lipinski]

And I was like, oh, no, this is going against our plan. I was like, oh, hi.

[Johnny Weir]

Hi.

[Fran]

You're like, sir, who are you Too suspicious now. I think everybody wants to know what would have happened if one of you were a traitor and one was not. Because that's what we were dying to see happen.

[Tara Lipinski]

It's so easy. We would have protected each other if one of us was up in the turret. That's probably why they didn't do it. Because either one of us, we would have protected one another. Till the very end. So one of us could win. Either a faithful or a traitor.

[Johnny Weir]

It's all about playing the game, and they want to put together the best game show. So I think they definitely would have been at a disadvantage if one of us had been a traitor, because we pretty much, even as two faithfuls, were playing our own game.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Johnny Weir]

And it would have been a mess for them if one of the traitors. If one of us was a traitor and was protecting the other the whole time.

[Tara Lipinski]

Yeah. And we would have. I would have known.

[Johnny Weir]

Yeah, we would have known immediately.

[Fran]

Yeah. I feel like even if you didn't tell each other outright, you just would have been able to tell 100%. Yeah. Oh, that would have been so interesting. But instead, you guys were both faithfuls until the end, and once you guys reveals that you were best friends, everyone was on to you. Oh, my God. What if they're trying to throw us off the scent? And, you know, you guys were getting there at the end. You know, we really did.

[Johnny Weir]

We said we got there.

[Fran]

You got there at the end. You were right there. You said, sniff them out, and then boom. Maura kept her alliance.

[Tara Lipinski]

We got close, though. I mean, I feel like we won. Cause we stayed together till the very end, and that's really what we wanted.

[Johnny Weir]

And I think as far as, like, a duo goes, we lasted longer than any, like, a very extreme duo. Like, we are totally. We lasted longer than any other duo had, and we're really proud of that. And I think going into it, our dream was to stand at the final flame, hold hands, raise them like in the Hunger Games, and just be super proud. But for the way we played and how kind of out of fish out of water we were, I'm so proud with how we did, because we made it as far as we possibly could have, but we were, like, two episodes late to figure out which way is right.

[Ria]

Yeah, that is so true. And I think, you know, during that. That roundtable with Natalie where she was like, I need you to speak up for me and be on my side, and it seemed like you just couldn't quite maybe get or you didn't want to throw Rob's name.

[Johnny Weir]

Well, there were definitely two main things.

[Tara Lipinski]

Yeah, I mean, I think. I mean, it's an hour show, right. So you only see so much. And I think it was great TV for, you know, the drama of it all. But there's so much that's happening, you know, during the day. So for me, what wasn't shown is I thought it was Robin Mora and I thought it was like a Bonnie and Clyde thing. And I was telling Natalie this, and I'm like, it's the two of them. Obviously, I was wrong on Maura, but I was very clear, and Johnny was very clear that we have to have the numbers. And I was saying we shouldn't go for Rob. I think there was a few lines of me saying that we shouldn't go for Rob tonight. What I was wanting to do is go for Maura that night. But the thing is, I went to Natalie before the roundtable. Again, you can't show all of this. But we had realized we didn't have the numbers. Natalie and I went to Maura, and Maura was like, no. And then went to Rob and Eric. And then Johnny was talking to Eric, and. And he's like, oh, boy, Tara, there is. You know, there's that alliance of Mark, Eric, Mora, Rob going for Natalie with the double dagger. So then I went to Mark, and I was like, mark, will you commit? And he's like, no, I can't commit. Let's just, you know, like, you know.

[Ria]

Cause it's hard.

[Tara Lipinski]

How do you know? And who knows? Maybe at the table, he would have been like, okay, well, now I'll go down the Rob Avenue. But, you know, Rob had a lot of people fooled, so it was hard for people to commit. But I went to Natalie before, and I was like, we can't do this. It's three against five. And I'm like, we'll just see how it goes at the table. But then it's hard. The heat came on Natalie very quickly from that side, and if you stand

[Johnny Weir]

out, you get stuck. So I think in addition to the gameplay of Natalie and Tara trying to figure it out, I was in the same car, and I was listening to the whole conversation. But as the final gamer, I never truly trusted Natalie. And also, she curses a lot. And for me, someone who curses a lot is hiding something or trying to cover something up or be bigger or something. Like, I don't trust a person that curses a lot. So even though we did find out she was a faithful, obviously even at that final roundtable, I didn't feel horrible putting her name down until after the fact. And I knew she was a faithful.

[Tara Lipinski]

Yeah, well, yeah, I think she just. The way that it unfolded is she got a lot of heat, and then it was smart gameplay on her to be like, tara, you told me about Rob today. So I actually was surprised. Cause I was like, oh, I went

[Fran]

to you before the roundtable.

[Tara Lipinski]

Like, I'm not Gonna vote for you. Let's figure out if it's Eric or Maura or if it swings to Rob. So I think it was just an unfortunate turn of events for the faithfuls that that happened. And the double dagger was that night. And then I felt so bad because, you know, she was, you know, upset and emotional, and you make these relationships. But at that point, I knew she was voting for Johnny, and I. And I could have jumped in and been trying to save her, but then that would have ruined Johnny and I's gameplay at that point, and we would have gone home.

[Johnny Weir]

As you can probably tell, we are completely unaffected by our experience there. We can barely even talk about it. We can barely remember it. It is so. The show is so real.

[Fran]

I mean, speaking of building relationships, you know, you're in there for what it is, two weeks or however long you get your phones taken away. You're, you know, put up somewhere, and you're just focused on this game 24 7. So you can see how much it really affects you. Johnny, you with Candace, you know, you can tell how disoriented you were after finding out she was a traitor because you were like, wow, I really did put my trust in her, but now I'm figuring out that she was protecting me.

[Noah]

Yeah.

[Fran]

Did everything sort of change for you in that moment during the game?

[Johnny Weir]

I think the fact that I'd put so much faith and Tara and I both had put so much faith in someone that was a traitor is very on brand for us. I mean, we trust before we distrust, and I think that is just who we are at our core deep down inside. And as you mentioned, the game becomes very real. And sitting at home, I mean, I binge watched all the seasons to get ready, and I'm a huge fan now. And when I originally watched, I was like, how can they be crying? They just met two days ago. But you go so native, and you are so deep in the game. And for people who do wear their hearts on their sleeves very proudly like us, it's a really emotional game. And when Candace revealed that she was a traitor, I was just bamboozled. And then, you know, the next day and that day a little bit too. But the next day is when the castle turned on me, and it was so lonely. And, like, I'm a very singular person aside from when I'm with Tara. I love just being alone. I love closing my door. I love being quiet. And it was the first time that I really didn't relish being alone because nobody would talk to me. They Were all afraid to be seen with me because I was the one that was getting voted out, and they didn't want there to be any connection there. And it was just. It's a horrible feeling. So kind of after Candace and then the episode when everyone was coming for me, I was like, you know what? I'm terrible at this game. I'm just gonna stop playing. I'm gonna wear my outfits.

[Ria]

Just leave me alone.

[Tara Lipinski]

I mean, that was the hardest part is the. It is so emotional when you're in the castle because you're so isolated for so long, and then these are Become, like, these people are becoming your friends and your relationships that you're there for weeks. So I think that was the hardest thing for me, to separate, you know, the heart from the mind. And then also, we were, like you said, playing our own game. So even with Candace. We were both besties with Candace. But that day, Johnny's name was being thrown around. And that's. You know, I voted for her, but never thought she was a traitor, but did it because I needed to make sure they weren't going after Johnny. So there was. Or even the Natalie thing, when that sort of was like a surprise at the table, I was like, but I've got to protect this team. And that was really hard for me to separate how to do that to someone, even though it's just a game, right?

[Fran]

And I think that's what flies under the radar, especially, is the emotions being heightened so much, because as a viewer, right, you're like, oh, it's just a game. It's just a game. But even Rob, he's having to lie to everybody all the time. And you can tell by the end he was kind of tired. That kind of wore on him as well, where he's like, I'm kind of tired of lying to everybody all the time. And then I saw you guys post a video where you were, you know, when you were on the plane. You know, we're still doing symbols to

[Johnny Weir]

each other because we still, like, we still get weirded out.

[Fran]

The paranoia.

[Johnny Weir]

We don't know.

[Fran]

Especially having cameras following you all the time as well.

[Tara Lipinski]

That's the craziest thing. You don't see the cameras. The cameras are just so hidden that that is also what just immerses you in this world, and you forget that this is just a game. But, yeah, afterwards at the airport, we changed our flights to fly together because

[Johnny Weir]

we were like, we just traumatized.

[Fran]

We're traumatized.

[Johnny Weir]

But there was. There's, like, I had the thought that the only people that come off of the traders and say, oh, it's just a game are the people that lose early or the ones that win. Everyone in that in between area, you do start ticket really seriously. I mean, call Mark Ballas. He's taken it the most seriously of anyone. Even the aftermath. And we still have like a faithfuls chat that everyone's in on. And it's very sweet that you have the sense of community, but it is a hard show to play, especially for. I mean I'm super emotional. T often is my rock and keeps us going forward, but I would just crumble. And it was a great test and I think that it showed how strong our bond is and how brave we can be in the face of adversity and how much that we can. We do. I think Natalie said it actually like it was like playing with two kids who only wanted to play with each other at the playground.

[Ria]

I was like, yeah. Did you feel like you almost had to, you know, when you did reveal to everyone that you are as close as you are, did you feel like they maybe didn't fully believe you? Because there was, you know, and we talked to Mark was in the studio

[Fran]

a couple weeks ago.

[Ria]

We talked to him about it. Cause Mark was like in the mo. I dance with partners all the time and like we work together and all these things, but I don't know if I have like an undying trust with all these people, but I. And because it kind of felt like you were like, oh, we're best friends. And everyone was like, okay.

[Tara Lipinski]

Yeah, Well, I think. Well, it definitely changed the vibe. So thank goodness somehow we, we lasted in the beginning because the moment we did that then we started getting the heat of like one of them's a trader, one of them's recruiting. So I do think that we would have been spotted way earlier and been kicked out, but I don't think that in that moment they truly understood that like no matter how you took that

[Ria]

moment to tell everyone you were that close, we.

[Johnny Weir]

So that day and the edits, when it goes down to an hour and it's, you know, an 18 hour shoot day and you guys get an hour of it to watch. It was a horrible day. Like I just would sit by myself in rooms. She would come check on me. I would try to avoid everyone. I wasn't into it on the mission. Even the fashion shots that we do before we go down to breakfast, I

[Ria]

could see on your face.

[Johnny Weir]

I was just, I was so defeated

[Tara Lipinski]

and done well because his name was being thrown Around. So when we woke up that morning, I guess Colton had left the night or left that day. And then it was Candace's name that was being thrown around, but also Johnny's, which I was freaking out. And even this wasn't part of the show. But Steven came up to me and he's like, I'm gonna test you. Like, this is gonna, like, I know you know, Johnny, his name's being thrown around. We're going after him tonight. If you, like, say something, we'll know. And I was like, definitely. And then I ran to the kitchen, and we're like, in the refrigerator. And I'm like, johnny, I cannot tell you anything right now. So you just have to follow my lead. And we're gonna vote, like. Cause we had eye movements that we do at the table to, like, go

[Johnny Weir]

to signify what we were doing.

[Tara Lipinski]

But I knew that Johnny was feeling that energy in the castle that day, and it was really hard. Cause people were throwing his name around. And when that happens, you know, you walk into a room and everyone goes silent. And it's, like, so silly. It's a game, but it feels awful. So when Johnny and I finally had a chat, I was like. I mean, I don't know what I thought. They're never gonna kick two people off at once. But we were just like Thelma and Louise style. Let's go out, like, blazing and just do it together.

[Johnny Weir]

And to us, I think it was bigger than it would have been to the other people because it was a secret that we'd been trying to hold onto for the whole game. And at that point in the game, it was already like a week and a half, two weeks that we'd been there and production secret. But anyway, we'd been there for a while, and I was just. I honestly. And I didn't think the game would affect me the way that it did. But I was just so defeated, and I felt so bad. I don't like anyone to ever feel uncomfortable around me or, like, they have to scurry when I walk into a room because they're afraid of association. Like, I've been a young gay kid in high school before. I know what it feels like. And it just, like, immediately took me back to that. So I was just like, I'm done. And then Tara was like, let's just do it. Let's just tell us we're all done together.

[Tara Lipinski]

Let's just do it all up.

[Johnny Weir]

Like, let them banish you. They're gonna murder me tonight. Let's go.

[Tara Lipinski]

I feel like if it went a

[Johnny Weir]

different way, her jersey came out.

[Tara Lipinski]

There was, like, a part of me that's like, maybe I just. Like, if you were going, I just stand up. And we're the first to, like, hold hands and be like, bye, guys.

[Johnny Weir]

We're both leaving.

[Fran]

We're fables, and we're out. Especially. Especially after the episode with the Jack in the Box game, where they just kept putting your name in and you would not put her name up. But it was just. Every answer was Tara. And honestly, watching it was kind of hard. I was like, oh, my God. Like, they just keep going. And you could see your faces turn. Like, they were perfect.

[Tara Lipinski]

But it was harder for me, too, because, like, we know each other so well in that way. Like, I was actually okay through that. I kind of knew it, but I. You could see it on your face if you watch back. I just know his face, despite the bowtie.

[Johnny Weir]

And he was, like, just crestfallen.

[Tara Lipinski]

He was really upset, upset by it. And I was like. I knew after. I was like, I need to get to him, to talk to him. Because, like, this is. It starts to feel real.

[Johnny Weir]

It's why I don't really read comments or emails or anything. I've got somebody scan everything for me, because I don't. Like, I can take criticism. It makes me feel like I can be better. I'm an athlete. But, like, I just. I never want someone to dislike me just because I'd rather you get to know me and then dislike me. And it just felt like they were coming at us from all sides. And I just felt so defeated. And I wanted to protect her, but at the same time, my whole world that I built in the game was crumbling, and it was just. It was a bad day.

[Ria]

It was a bad day.

[Fran]

You know, you bring up being an athlete, and I love that in one of your professionals, you were like, we weren't playing school games like this. Like, we were Olympians.

[Johnny Weir]

We trained on Christmas. I didn't do an Easter egg hunt because I was training. Like, it's true. And I think that's something. Like, during the Olympics, you marvel at these performances, but if you've not been an athlete or, like, in the realm or the satellite of an athlete before, you don't realize how much it actually takes and how much dedication. And I like to bring up being an athlete as much as we can, because, yes, our friendship, our hair, our clothes, all of that gets a lot of attention. But at the end of the day, we worked really hard for our position in this world, and I mean, it takes a lot to be an Olympian, so you can apply everything you learn as an athlete into everything else you do.

[Tara Lipinski]

And I think it was like a different take for us too, coming on a show like that. Obviously, we've been in entertainment and we're on live TV together, but we're analyzing figure skating, so it's something very serious. So you throw us into the reality world. I mean, back in the day, he had his own reality show, so he had more experience. But I was Tara's first. Yeah, it was my first. So, you know, we were very different than everyone else there. We weren't reality stars. We weren't looking for, like, allied. And our friendship meant so much that it was. It was a lot to juggle. And also the athlete mindset. We just. You want to do well for your team. So, like, the faithfuls became like Team usa And it just really wore on us when we were not doing well. You know, we felt like we were disappointing our team.

[Ria]

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[Johnny Weir]

Well, I. I was excited about it. I was actually asked to do season one.

[Tara Lipinski]

Okay.

[Johnny Weir]

And I couldn't because of a prior engagement. But when we got the offer together, we definitely had to talk it through.

[Tara Lipinski]

Yeah. Cause it was hard for me because I had, you know, my daughter was only 15 months at the time, and I had never done reality. I never thought I was gonna, like, go down that path. But again, doing it with him, I was like, this is gonna be once in a lifetime experience. And the show is so fun and campy that I knew I could take it on. But, I mean, look how campy and fun it is. And I still was the one, like, crying throughout the whole.

[Ria]

It's true, because it's on one side of the coin, you want to do it with someone you know, but on the other side, it's like, ooh, do I want to do it with someone I know? Because you could get to a point where if you're playing the game, if something happens or all these things, like, we've joked about it, like, if we were on it, it's like, yeah. God, what would happen if one of us was a traitor?

[Fran]

One glass of wine, you're like, how much.

[Ria]

Okay, that's that. It's just.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Ria]

So it's. I'm sure it was crazy, but I feel like until it got hectic at the end, you. The two of you did seem like you were having so much fun.

[Tara Lipinski]

We had so much fun. Even looking back at it now, we're always like, oh, my God, that was so much fun.

[Fran]

And we got to experience it. It's always the after.

[Johnny Weir]

Yeah, everything's prettier in hindsight.

[Ria]

Was Rob being the sole winner at that point a shock or not a shock to you guys?

[Johnny Weir]

Not a shock. And to be fair, he was a traitor. He was masterful. And if anybody should have won that thing alone, it should have been him. If it wasn't us, I was rooting for him because, like, every mission, he kicked ass. Every time we were in a social situation or doing reality, as it's called in the show, he made time to be friendly and talk to everyone. Someone could say it's strategy, but I also think there's some heart to Rob and, like, he was generally a lovely person for the most part, and that's why he was able to do so well. But I don't think it's all fake for the game.

[Tara Lipinski]

No, I'm with you 100%. And I think that, you know, when Johnny left, obviously, that was so awful for me. But I also knew that, you know, we made it to the last episode together, so there was only a little bit of time. So I actually felt, like, very focused and competitive in that moment. Cause I was like, I've gotta come through for Johnny, and we've gotta win it together. Even though he's not standing There. And I think I was a little. I was so sad. The first part of that episode where I really thought, well, you were still around at that point. I thought we won the game. Because Maura was like, all in on it.

[Johnny Weir]

Mora lied to her.

[Tara Lipinski]

Yeah, all in. And she's like, we're gonna go for Eric. He's gonna be so surprised. Like, my hands are shaking. I can't even believe. And I was like, johnny, we just won. It's gonna be me, you, and Maura at the end. And I really. I was so convinced by what she said to me that that first roundtable when he left was such a shock. By the end game, I kind of realized. I'm like, she's probably. I'm gonna try again. Maybe I'll get it. I was like, this is now really, like, 50. 50. If it could happen.

[Fran]

Hey, Rob may have won the whole thing, but he did make a promise to her, which was a Birkin.

[Ria]

Yes.

[Fran]

Oh, yeah. And he made it happen. And Maura's Birkin has gotten a lot of press. But you two walked in here. You guys came in with matching Birkin mug bags.

[Johnny Weir]

Okay. Funny story. So I've been a collector for a while, and I love Birkin bags. And it's like, the one thing I understand as far as an investment is concerned. If I ever need them, they're sitting there. But this is what we've been talking about.

[Fran]

It's an investment.

[Johnny Weir]

It's an investment. I don't sell them, though. So that's the thing.

[Fran]

Investment for yourself.

[Johnny Weir]

But skating is really big in Japan. And I had an Hermes guy in the Ginza shop, and I was going in to pick one up during the Olympics in Tokyo. And Tara went with me, and she hadn't really dove into the Hermes pool yet.

[Tara Lipinski]

Yeah, I was like, this is too much of a purchase. It was overwhelming.

[Johnny Weir]

But they took us into the room. She was obviously popular in the store as well. Cause skating is so big over there. And she watched the process unfold, like revealing it from the white bag. So you can wear the gloves, the whole thing

[Tara Lipinski]

out.

[Johnny Weir]

I'm like, oh, my goodness, It's a wowzer. And then she was like, well, I want one, and I want a matching one. And my guy, he was like, well, let me see what I can do. So in Japan, they get a really limited number of bags in a particular color. So it was a seasonal color. It was very special. I think it's very sought after now.

[Fran]

Should we shut?

[Ria]

I was gonna say nobody else in

[Fran]

the room touched there Touch them.

[Ria]

Yeah, but bring them in, you guys.

[Noah]

Yes. Yeah.

[Johnny Weir]

Otherwise, I'll have to ease my way out. Actually, you can look at the discoloration

[Tara Lipinski]

on and know which is who.

[Johnny Weir]

Which whose is whose.

[Ria]

Maybe a little tan on them.

[Johnny Weir]

Yeah, yeah, but. Yeah, so. So I love a Birkin bag, and this is in the color Nata, but our guy was able to source one. There were, like, six of this color in the whole country. And he got one for me, and he got one for Taylor.

[Noah]

Yeah.

[Fran]

I will have Sarah.

[Ria]

Yours looks like you use yours, you know.

[Tara Lipinski]

Oh, I really use mine.

[Johnny Weir]

Mine's just been to the spa to be fair.

[Tara Lipinski]

Okay, okay.

[Fran]

Fair, Fair.

[Tara Lipinski]

No, it was so crazy. Cause I didn't think I was gonna do that. But then the fact that we have matching ones.

[Fran]

Can you put my hand.

[Ria]

Which I just think is so funny, that you guys feel very right. And the show ends with, like, this being such a big thing that it's like this huge moment of Rob gifting her this bag. It's like. And everyone's like, well, shouldn't every. Who should everybody be getting a bag?

[Fran]

When did you guys get them?

[Johnny Weir]

So it was like, 2021, when the Olympics were in Tokyo.

[Fran]

Okay, so you've had them.

[Tara Lipinski]

Yeah.

[Johnny Weir]

I mean, it's old news now. Now we're trying to get our second

[Tara Lipinski]

situation, but we're working on our second round. We try to do a matching moment. It's very hard.

[Ria]

Yes.

[Tara Lipinski]

So, Johnny, I leave that to you.

[Johnny Weir]

Yeah, I'm working on it. Her handles. Can you. Some love.

[Ria]

Hers will go to the spa next.

[Johnny Weir]

No, it's wonderful. And I love, like, busting through a door, and we're both carrying the same bag. It's really cute. It's very on brand for us.

[Fran]

I love it. When you guys walked in, I was like, are those. I think they are. We've been talking about it all day.

[Ria]

We have been talking about nonstop, which is so funny. But we. I loved watching all the Olympic coverage from you guys. I feel like we had some major US Skating moments this year. Whether it was surprise in a good way, surprise in a bad way, just all over the place. Now that, you know, we're a little bit removed. What are you guys. What are you guys taking away from these Team USA moments?

[Tara Lipinski]

I feel like it was just a great moment for skating in general. I feel like the public really engaged with Team usa. You have Alyssa Liu and Amber, Glenn and Ilya Malinin and Max Nomov and all of their incredible stories and unique personalities, and it just felt larger than Life to me. And then you did. You had the ups and downs, which is what the Olympics bring. So you. You watch the heartbreak of Ilya Malinin, who was supposed to win gold against. You know, there was no. There was no odds against him. He just. It was, like, in the bag. And for something like that to happen was so shocking. But then also the. The greatest thing about his story, for me, was the way that he showed up for the Olympic champion that night and walked over there, and he was the example of the sportsmanship. And just for me, just off the ice, he's an incredible athlete, but I think it showed his character off the ice. And then I think Alyssa Liu for figure skating, it just reminds everyone why figure skating is so amazing. And just her mindset and the wisdom she has at such a young age and the way she's able to bring that to the ice is so refreshing. So I really feel like there's this resurgence right now in skating.

[Johnny Weir]

I mean, I have a skating school, and the rink is so crowded right now, so so many people are bringing their kids to learn to skate, and I think that's awesome. But the thing about the Olympics that was so special this time is that we come from. I mean, the Olympics as a whole are always something that we tune in for, and we love all the Olympics, but figure skating is our sport, and our sport is judged by strangers. So you often have the feeling as a skater that you want to please everyone and you don't want to ruffle feathers, and I wasn't that way in my career. But there are definitely a lot of people around me in my time that were trying to play by the rules and be the perfect little skater person. Whatever the judges wanted, that's what they were. And I think this Olympics, for the first time, really, we had a full menagerie of beautiful, authentic athletes, people that really were themselves, and they showed the world that you can win by being yourself. And I think that is the most special message that all the skaters gave to the world. This Olympic Games, and Team usa, of course, in particular. Between Ilya's sportsmanship, Amber's heart on her sleeve, Alyssa showing the world that you don't have to be exactly what you imagine when you think of a figure skater to win the gold. Chock and Bates being graceful in defeat, Team USA winning the team event. I think that there was just so much beauty and kind of that human vulnerability to all the skaters that we got to watch, more so than ever.

[Fran]

Seen that for years in skating, and especially some of the interviews They've been doing. I saw Alyssa was asked recently, she would say to her younger self, and I love that she was like. She was like, nothing. Like, she's. She's got it. Like, she'll figure it out. And I was like, I have never thought about responding that way, but I love that answer.

[Tara Lipinski]

Alyssa Lu should also become, like, a therapist and give us all advice because she's. She's got it down.

[Ria]

Yeah, she really does. I. I think I, like, lost sleep over Madison and Evan. Like, I was really couldn't believe it. It does. Like you said, you do those deep dives into the. Into judging and how it all turns out. All these things. Like, when you. How hard is it commentating on these moments where you sort of, of course, have your own opinion, because it is. You're coming off judges who also have their own opinion. That's their score. And you sort of have to honor their opinion. But at the same time, you're like, I don't know.

[Johnny Weir]

We call them out when we. When we really need to. But. But our first duty is to our audience, the people that invite us into their living room so that they can enjoy the skating with us. So we have a huge responsibility, but also a lot of gratitude for being able to share what our sport is with the world.

[Ria]

But you guys do an amazing job at that.

[Noah]

Thank you.

[Johnny Weir]

That's our first objective. And then, obviously, we get to sit in the booth with our best friend, and we enjoy each other's company. And I'm sure you guys love working together and sitting and gossiping and talking, so we infuse it with that as well. But sometimes the hard moments are really hard for us because we have both been there. We know what it feels like to lose by this much. We know what it feels like to have a rough performance and not fulfill expectations. And that really does help us with our job. Having the experience of it and trying to make it make sense to people without kind of tearing down the skater that you've just seen and saying, well, they lost a point here, they lost a point here. They did this a little bit incorrectly and not pooing on their moment and trying to lift them up. Because we respect and admire anyone that's brave enough to get out there and do this sport because it's so personal.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Tara Lipinski]

And I think that's what makes. I mean, obviously bias, but I think that's what makes skating so special and so dramatic in a way. You know, it's still a little bit of a subjective sport. There's an Artistic score, there's a technical score, and now they've built a judging system that's all based on numbers. But at the end of the day, there's, you know, still personal preference that can change things. And I think, like you said, it's our sort of duty to know the ins and outs of that and try to explain it to the audience and make sure each athlete is sort of, you know, lifted up for their moment, too.

[Johnny Weir]

But we definitely. We lead with love. Like, that's where we come from as people, and that's who we were as skaters.

[Tara Lipinski]

Well, we've been there. We've been in every one of those

[Ria]

situations, which is why I think you guys are so great. And I think there is such a balance when you're watching a sport like figure skating, where you want to be focused on the.

[Fran]

On the.

[Ria]

On the skater, but at the same time, inform the viewer of what's happening and moves that are happening. So you can teach people, but also not, you know, talk over the entire performance. And then you lose the music. You lose the things. You guys have the perfect balance. I think it's really so great. It makes me love watching figure skating. And I think this past Olympics was so great for everyone watching that hopefully they'll continue to watch even when it's not the Olympics.

[Tara Lipinski]

That makes me so happy just to hear that. I mean, that's all we want is we love our sport so much. We grew up. It's our life.

[Johnny Weir]

We live our lives in Olympic cycles. Really. We have our whole lives.

[Tara Lipinski]

But we also now not only had our story in the sport, but we have watched Ilija from day one. We have seen these skaters grow up before our eyes and know the sacrifices they make for these moments. So all we want to do is commentate in a way that brings viewers in to realize what's so magical about skating.

[Fran]

And you guys absolutely do that. And we became so obsessed with it. Now for our book club, we're reading the favorites.

[Ria]

Yes.

[Fran]

Because we just couldn't get enough.

[Ria]

I know.

[Fran]

And did you record some of the audiobook?

[Johnny Weir]

Yes, I played Ella Steen for the audiobook.

[Ria]

That's amazing. Yeah, that's our book club book of the month. We're so into it.

[Fran]

So we're doing the favorites.

[Ria]

Yeah, we were like we should have done last month, but we're just extending our. Our obsession with it.

[Johnny Weir]

You do have the world championships this month.

[Ria]

Yes, exactly. Tune into that. So really excited. Thank you guys so much. We do have to. I know you guys have a. Have a heart. Out. So we have to wrap up. We could, but this was so great. We're so happy that you guys came into studio to talk to us so much.

[Johnny Weir]

Thank you. Thank you. And enjoy your. Your lives.

[Fran]

Your lives.

[Ria]

Thank you.

[Fran]

Thank you so much.

[Johnny Weir]

Podcasting.

[Fran]

Yeah. All right, that wraps up today's episode of Chicks the Office. Thank you so much for watching and listening. Seattle and San Diego, we are headed your way this week. There are a couple of tickets still on sale, so check those out if you're interested. We love you guys so very much and we'll talk to you on Wednesday.

[Johnny Weir]

Yeah.

[Ria]

Chicks in the Office.

[Noah]

Longtime listener, first time caller.

[Ria]

Look at the charts, who does it the best?

[Fran]

Two chicks getting paid in reality checks?

[Ria]

You can find them at the gym?

[Fran]

It's not even a flex? Last minute red carpet flew them out on the jet? Yeah, they're who you want to be? They're always on your screen? Two queens and they might be spilling royalty? A lot of topics that are popping here to get into.

[Noah]

I know a show that you probably

[Fran]

want to listen to.

[Ria]

Well, turn the heat up, turn the beat up?

[Fran]

Record the pod made a bag, put their feet up? The ones that leave no crumbs when they clean up?

[Ria]

Who's the pod that they all want to meet up? Who turned the heat up?

[Fran]

Turn the feet up, record the pod made a bag, put their feet up?

[Ria]

The ones that leave no crumbs when they clean up? Who's the pod that they all want to meet up?

[Fran]

Sa.