The Men on Love Is Blind SUCK + Traitors Finale Theories

Summary

Chicks in the Office

Episode: The Men on Love Is Blind SUCK + Traitors Finale Theories

Date: February 23, 2026
Hosts: Ria and Fran (Barstool Sports)
Special Guest: Rhian

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Episode Overview

This episode brings classic "Chicks in the Office" energy as Ria and Fran, joined by Rhian, hunker down during a major Northeast snowstorm. The trio chat about the winter, recap the Winter Olympics and major sporting moments, and then dive into their weekly TV Watch reports. The main segment centers on a scathing recap of "Love is Blind" (Season 6), with a focus on the disappointingly toxic male contestants. They also engage in spirited discussion and predictions for the finale of "The Traitors," share heartfelt thoughts about Eric Dane's passing, and review other trending pop culture stories.

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Table of Contents

1. Snowstorm & Winter Blues (00:44-14:30)
2. Olympics Recap & Sports Highlights (14:47-34:24)
3. Viral Moments & Internet Obsessions (34:28-41:39)
4. Tribute to Eric Dane (42:10-49:19)
5. Weekly Watch Report: TV Recaps
   • Summer House (55:37)
   • Love is Blind: The Men Suck Segment (65:26)
   • Traitors: Finale Theories (88:42)
   • Other Shows (107:14)
6. Memorable Quotes & Moments
7. Notable Timestamps Summary

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Snowstorm & Winter Blues (00:44–14:30)

• Hosts stuck at home due to a blizzard: The episode opens with snow day chat—Ria is excited like a kid, Fran is completely over winter.
  • Fran: “When it becomes spring and summer, I’m going to be outside skipping around every single day. No more couch time. I have had enough couch time to last me a lifetime.” (02:04)
  • Ria shares her excitement for snowstorms and the magical, quiet vibe in New York City when streets are emptied.
  • Travel woes: People stranded, canceled flights; Fran and Ria nervously anticipate an upcoming Turks and Caicos trip possibly being thwarted by the weather.

Notable moment:

• Ria and Fran discuss snow gear (or lack thereof), childlike wonder vs. total winter burnout, and flights getting canceled left and right.

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Olympics Recap & Sports Highlights (14:47–34:24)

• Winter Olympics feels:
  • USA Men’s & Women’s Hockey both clinched gold in overtime wins versus Canada—cue major nationalism and friendly sport rivalry.
  • Fran: “The fact that both teams won gold against Canada in overtime. Amazing. And, you know, we do have amazing Canadian listeners, and we love you guys, but...” (22:15)
  • Highlighted the emotional moments: Honoring a teammate who should have been on the team, the joy and tears of victory, and children of athletes on the ice.
  • Jack Hughes is shouted out for his bar mitzvah and golden goal, and the Hughes family’s deep hockey roots are discussed.
  • The hosts call out Donald Trump for making derogatory comments about the US women’s team, expressing their support and admiration for the athletes. (“So fucking lame and such bullshit. These women work so hard. And by the way, like I just said, more gold medals. More gold medals.” — Ria, 33:14)

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Viral Moments & Internet Obsessions (34:28–41:39)

• Punch the Monkey:
  • Discussion of the viral story of “Punch,” a tiny monkey in a Japanese zoo rejected by other monkeys and comforted by a stuffed orangutan.
  • A deluge of TikTok videos and online compassion—the gang debates whether this is bullying or natural monkey behavior.
  • “It’s impossible not to feel sorry for him when you’re watching these videos.” — Fran (40:28)
• Reflection: The conversation turns to parallels with kids being bullied and the emotional toll it takes.

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Tribute to Eric Dane (42:10–49:19)

• Eric Dane’s passing from ALS:
  • Somber discussion of the actor’s quick decline and his touching Netflix “Famous Last Words” episode where he leaves a message for his daughters.
  • Fran: "The amount of courage it takes to get on camera and film your last words, knowing what's ahead for you is really quite heartbreaking and sad, but also, like you said, beautiful." (46:35)
• Highlights the brutality of ALS, the importance of cherishing moments, and not taking life for granted.

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Weekly Watch Report: TV Recaps

Summer House (55:37)

• Main focus: The escalating, toxic dynamic between Kyle and Amanda.
  • Fran: “The way that he treats her makes me feel physically ill... He automatically jumps to, okay, fine, I'll just stop drinking and I'll just stop DJing—like, he's just a big baby.” (58:20)
• Both hosts are relieved the couple is now separated in real life.

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Love is Blind: The Men Suck Segment (65:26)

[Main Episode Theme]

• Chris (the villain):

  • Repeatedly disparages his fiancée for not doing Pilates every day, wants an unrealistic “Pilates body.”
  • Fran: “Chris, this little troll, this little elf, this little fucking shrimp, really had the nerve to tell a beautiful, gorgeous doctor… that he wants someone who does Pilates every day.” (65:35)
  • Ria: “Him saying that was him perpetuating the, like, stereotype of what a Pilates body looks like. And let me tell you something... do these guys own a mirror?” (66:49)
  • Both hosts: Consistently outraged at men’s audacity and their “dealbreakers” for incredible women.

• Bri's enabler moment:

  • Criticism of Bri for appearing to side with Chris in a key argument, while putting down her own partner Connor.

• Other guys catch heat:

  • Alex (“nomadic soccer guy”) is scolded for fixating on “dark features” and for being emotionally unavailable; “clearly has a lot to work on himself,” says Ria (75:16).
  • Devonte is labeled uninterested, “blah” and Britney deserves better, says Fran (84:33).
  • Jordan’s potential as a good catch for Amber is debated—reminder that having a child remains a real sticking point.

• Process critique:

  • Why do people with rigid “types” or those obsessed with superficial traits go on “Love is Blind”?
  • The process is called out for unintentionally giving men a platform to bash women’s looks, despite being unremarkable themselves.

• Positive Standouts:

  • Christina and Vic are praised as the only couple with real, mature conversations (“breath of fresh air,” Ria, 87:45)

• General tone: Ranting, comedic incredulity, lots of “these men suck” energy.

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Traitors: Finale Theories (88:42)

• Predictions for finale:

  • The group comes close to identifying Rob as a traitor but falls apart at the last minute; frustration with the “faithfuls” being clueless.
  • “They have no confidence in any move.” — Ria (89:14)
  • The roundtable scenes and backstabbing are relished, with Justice for Natalie who gets thrown under the bus.
  • Maura’s blind loyalty to Rob is lambasted.
  • Detailed speculation ensues on how the game might end—multiple twists possible; Rob may have to betray Eric.

• Grade:

  • All hosts are addicted to the drama, admit it’s a “hate-watch” — especially impressed with Rob’s subtle mastery.
  • A minus/B plus ratings for the show’s entertainment value.

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Other Shows (107:14–127:51)

• Love Story: JFK Jr. & Carolyn:

  • The hosts debate the acting chops of the lead. Chemistry is good, but “he just doesn’t have it,” says Rhian (115:59).
  • Praised for 90s music, NYC setting, and for Sarah Pigeon as Carolyn.

• Southern Charm, Shrinking, The Beauty, The Pit, Landman...

  • Brief, lively reviews and grades on ongoing storylines and character arcs.
  • “The Pit” gets an A for its latest episode; “Shrinking” called a “warm hug” of a show.

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Memorable Quotes & Moments

• Ria on the snowstorm:
  “There's something magical about New York City when we get this much snow because everything shuts down. I took Olive out, there was a man on skis going down my street. Like, he was in the middle of the road, just like on skis.” (06:06)

• Fran on “Love is Blind” men:
  “These guys just suck so much... The nerve that these guys have when these women wouldn't even look in their fucking direction in real life.” (64:40)

• On Rob’s performance in “The Traitors”:
  “Does Rob win at all at this point? He deserves to win it all... He did what he had to do to get out of the Lisa scramble, the Candace scramble. Like, he's playing a good game.” — Fran (100:10)

• On Eric Dane’s farewell:
  “The amount of courage it takes to get on camera and film your last words, knowing what's ahead for you is really quite heartbreaking and sad, but also... beautiful.” — Fran (46:35)

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Notable Timestamps Summary

| Timestamp | Segment/Event | |-----------|--------------------------------------------------------| | 00:44 | Snow day blues and NYC winter talk | | 14:47 | Winter Olympics hockey & emotional victories | | 33:14 | Trump’s comments on the women’s hockey team | | 34:28 | Internet’s obsession with “Punch” the monkey | | 42:10 | Eric Dane’s ALS tribute and last words | | 55:37 | Summer House: Kyle & Amanda relationship drama | | 65:26 | Love is Blind: Male toxicity reached new heights | | 88:42 | Traitors: Finale predictions & wild theories | | 107:14 | Other shows: Love Story, Southern Charm, Shrinking, etc.| | 127:51 | Knight of the Seven Kingdoms finale (Game of Thrones spinoff) |

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Final Grades Given:

• Love is Blind: B+/A- (for sheer drama and rant potential)
• Traitors: B+/A- (for chaos and strategy)
• Summer House: B/B- (engaging but infuriating)
• Love Story: JFK Jr.: B+/C+ (great 90s ambiance, mixed acting)
• The Pit: A (great episode)
• Shrinking: A (heartwarming series)
• Landman, The Beauty: B+/B

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Overall Tone & Takeaway

Ria and Fran bring unfiltered, fiery commentary, mixing heartfelt moments (Olympics, Eric Dane) with their signature pop-culture snark—especially towards "Love is Blind"’s parade of disappointing men. The episode is as much a communal vent session as it is a deep-dive into reality TV and sports culture, peppered with sharp one-liners, worried travel plans, and plenty of laughs.

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For listeners craving reality TV recap, pop culture rants, and brutally honest friendship, this episode checks every box.

Transcript

[Ria]

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[Fran]

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[Ria]

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[Fran]

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[Fran]

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[Ria]

What's up everyone?

[Fran]

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[Ria]

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[Fran]

That's right. And you can learn [e-mail] M365 copilot Happy Monday everybody. We are stuck inside because of this blizzard, snowstorm and my goodness, it just feels like this winter is never going to end. You know what? It's like, I was thinking about this. You know when you get a stuffy nose, you get sick and you tell yourself, like, oh my God, I really took for granted the times that my nose wasn't stuffed, the times I didn't have a headache, the times my stomach didn't hurt. That's how I feel about this goddamn snow right now. When it becomes spring and summer, I'm going to be outside skipping around every single day. No more couch time. I have had enough couch time to last me a lifetime.

[Ria]

I'M going to be out there dancing

[Fran]

on the streets because, gosh, I just can't take it anymore. I need the sun. I. I need. I need the sunshine. Okay. I looked in the mirror this morning. I said, you know what? Don't even, don't even put makeup on for this zoom recording. Let everyone know what you look like right now with no sun, just being stuck inside in this long, long winter.

[Ria]

You know, I'm kind of not, not the opposite, but, like, I woke up this morning, like, I still get excited for the big snowstorms. Like, I was like, oh, my God, like, there's so much snow. Like, it was still exciting to me. If it's a dreary, cold winter and there's no snow, absolutely. I hate it. It's miserable. But, like, the excitement of a snowstorm, I. I think it's. I still get like a little. A little zip. Like, I'm like, I'm.

[Fran]

I'm.

[Ria]

Open up my shades. I'm like, oh, my God, it's still snowing so much. I'm going outside. I want to see how much snow there is. I put my snow pants on to take all of out. Like, I'm ready. I'm walking to the park later. I might borrow someone's sled.

[Fran]

Who knows? See, that's great for you. I. Maybe that's because you're, like, near parks and stuff, like in the city or whatever's going on. I can't go anywhere where I am. It's not fun to step outside. I'm basically in a gigantic wind tunnel that if I step outside, I'm getting blown away. Like, there. There's. There's no going outside for me. And by the way, there's no going outside for me because I'm an asshole who doesn't have any snow gear. Like, I. That's another thing. I don't own a single piece of snow gear.

[Ria]

Like, that does crack me up. Like, you don't even have, like, rain. But I was like, do you have rain boots that you could, you know, put thick socks.

[Fran]

I don't even have a pair of rain boots anymore. I got rid of all of them. I don't know why. I don't know why. You know when you do, like, a closet clean out and you just get rid of a bunch of shit you can't even see straight. And then months go by and you're like, oh, I got. I got rid of that thing that I was. I was probably going to need.

[Ria]

You got rid of those snow boots that you brought To Minneapolis eight years ago.

[Fran]

Yeah, but those are like, the only snow boots I ever had. Although I did have a great pair of hunter boots. Right. Like, I feel like there was a time where everyone had just a solid pair of hunter boots.

[Rhian]

Yep.

[Ria]

And got new ones last Christmas.

[Fran]

Well, I'm thinking about getting a pair. Even though, you know, now it'll be, I'll have it for next year because I'm late to the game. And I. And I said part of the reasoning I'm stuck inside is because I also just don't have snow gear. Like, I'm an idiot. And I know this is all my fault. I know that this is all on me. But besides that, I don't even want to go out there. Like, it's not like I'm like, get me in the snow. I want to play around and do snow Angel. I don't want to do any of that. I don't want to. I want to be on a beach. I want to be in the sun. I want to be taking a long walk on like a 60 degree weather day. You know, I don't. I'm done with this the first time, fun the second time. All right, cool.

[Ria]

Snow.

[Fran]

I'm over it now. I'm over it.

[Ria]

Yeah. I don't know. I just have that. That childlike love for snowstorm.

[Fran]

I just. I'm so happy for you. But there's a lot of us that are. That are over it.

[Ria]

No, I know. I was outside. I was like, taking picture because I don't know, there's something really. And once again, maybe I'm just romanticizing the whole New York City. Like, there's something, I think, magical about New York City when we get this much snow because everything shuts down. There's no cars in the street. I went. I took all of that. There was a man on skis going down my street. Like, he was in the middle of the road, just like on skis. And I'm just like, it's crazy. It never happens. You never get to see it. It never snows like this here in New York City anymore. And this year we definitely have gotten a lot of snow, that's for sure. But snowstorms like this only it's been a decade since we've gotten a storm like this blizzard. So I'm like, what's the right word for it? It's like a statistics thing. Like, I'm like, man, it's the biggest storm we've gotten in 10 years.

[Rhian]

Like, I'm a friend. Like, I was like, it was like, Christmas Eve on. On Saturday, I was like, looking out the window, like, tomorrow we'll have snow. Like, I don't know how you don't get excited about it.

[Fran]

It's because, like, your whole schedule gets up.

[Rhian]

But that's like, the beauty of it. It's like you have an excuse to do nothing.

[Ria]

It's like that's. That's also like, the craziness of a storm.

[Rhian]

Like, you're like, oh, yeah, everyone's in it together.

[Ria]

What's gonna happen? Yeah.

[Fran]

Like the first time of the year it happens. Not the third or fourth time.

[Rhian]

This is only like, the storm, like, we've had in the last, like, five years. And they both happen this year, but it's like, we haven't had any snow. So I've. I've been missing it.

[Fran]

I. I'm with you. That, like, the snow looks cool sometimes, you know?

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Fran]

You're.

[Ria]

You're a war. You're just. You're not.

[Fran]

I don't think. I don't think it's crazy that I'm not like, oh, my God, yes, we're stuck inside.

[Rhian]

I don't think anyone would have thought you were a snow person, to be honest. No. You know, you don't give off, like, naturey, outdoorsy.

[Ria]

Well, I don't think so. Has anything to do with nature. Y. I just think I like being outdoors.

[Fran]

That's my whole thing is that I. Is that I'm stuck right now. I want to be outside. I don't like being outside in the snow. It's just. It's just.

[Ria]

It's just temperature. It's like, you're. You're never gonna go on a cold weather vacation over a warm weather vacation.

[Fran]

Never. Yeah.

[Rhian]

Yeah.

[Fran]

Never.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Fran]

No. You're not gonna catch me there.

[Ria]

No, exactly. That's totally fine. But no, it's so crazy, I think. And honestly, this past weekend was so busy for so many people. I've had so many friends that were away trying to get home because it was the trajectory of this storm, man, it was crazy at first. Last week they were like, oh, big storm. And then it died down and it was like, maybe, maybe not. Maybe, maybe not. And then like, Friday, Saturday, they were like, oh, it's taking a turn.

[Rhian]

Big Storm Brands guy.

[Ria]

Yeah, I know. All. All of Saturday, he was. Because. Because then also yesterday, I was like. I was like, yeah, get him on his Instagram stories. Because people were writing in Sunday afternoon because it was snowing, but it wasn't sticking because it was still too warm. And People are writing in, like, I don't know. This seems like a dud. It's been sewing for hours and nothing's sticking. And. And he. He was like, just wait. I'm telling you guys, it's overnight, like, and. And then you wake up and see this. So he was definitely right. But I think it was a panic for a lot of people to change travel plans and all those things. I. If you were in New York this weekend, you weren't getting out of New York. I know. People are. People are stuck here. I said last week that at the end of last week that. That Joe was away this weekend, and I don't know what magic he finagled, but he got on a flight to Philly that somehow landed because flights Sunday, Monday. I have friends in Florida that their Tuesday flights have already been canceled. It's like. It's crazy. So made it to Philly, got on a train, made it home at, like, 10 o', clock, which I was very impressed by, because it's just. It's crazy. Every single person is like, oh, my friends in Florida, they're. I'm like, oh, I just booked this flight. 30 minutes later, they're like, flights canceled.

[Fran]

Yeah. Honestly, it is a miracle that he was able to get home because a lot of people are getting fucked over right now. Yeah. Which is awful. So, Yeah.

[Ria]

I mean, we also have. We. We have a vacation at the end of this week, and my God, if that vacation gets messed up, heads will roll.

[Fran]

Yeah. Fran and I are going to Turks and Caicos. Will roll on a couple's trip. So that's partially why I'm like, all right, well, you know, we'll be leaving soon, but at the same time, we might not be. And at that point, like, I've already, in my head have accepted that. Like, I've already been like, maria, you need to get in your head that there's a good chance you don't. You don't make it out of here. And. Because on the. On the chance that we do make it out, it'll be like, wow, this is amazing. It'll feel so good. But you got to set the expectations low right now because.

[Ria]

Yeah, my worry is. My worry is, is that one of my friends is watching Olive and she's not here. She's stuck in Florida. So she doesn't make it back.

[Rhian]

Hey, friend, I'll take all of home to my mom.

[Fran]

Oh. Oh, that's such a nice moment.

[Rhian]

Really wanting Marie and Olive to meet up anyway.

[Ria]

Wow, that's actually a great.

[Fran]

That's a great offer.

[Ria]

That is a great offer. No, I may have to take you up. Jen, if you're listening, I would really love that.

[Rhian]

She is. She is getting a foster next weekend, I think, but I'm sure she could make it work. Hey, I just want to tell my dad.

[Ria]

Yeah, you just. Your dad just comes home. She's like. He's like, oh, is this the new foster's? Like, no, this is Fran's dog. I don't know, she just popped up here.

[Rhian]

It's.

[Ria]

We're just taking care of her. But no, it's.

[Fran]

It.

[Ria]

And I just can't believe I'm like, I keep looking out the window because if you couldn't tell, I'm just straight up recording for bed. Like, I'm going full snow day.

[Fran]

I'm.

[Ria]

I'm in bed. But also, you know, Joe's here and working and there's one desk in this apartment and I just keep looking out the window. It is blowing snow still blowing. And it is. It's, you know, Monday morning at this point. It's crazy.

[Fran]

I'm going to give a glimpse on my laptop of what my windows look like right now that you can usually see, like the entire city and everything.

[Ria]

Yeah, yeah. No, nothing that's. Hey, they said white out conditions.

[Fran]

Although it does look. It does look pretty cool.

[Ria]

It's like you're living in a cloud.

[Fran]

I am, but when you get really close to the window. Should I try to take us over there? Oh, we're traveling. When you get really close, you could see it blowing, like, really hard. Maybe you can't see it.

[Ria]

Yeah, no, I can. I can see some movement.

[Fran]

And the windows, it never usually sticks to the window, but it is frozen on the window right now. Look, this is like a live weather report. This is kind of fun.

[Ria]

Reporting live from Jersey City.

[Fran]

I'm falling. My laptop's falling out of my hands. No, look. And then my balcony.

[Ria]

Yeah, yeah. You're like, I can.

[Rhian]

You should do the podcast from the balcony.

[Ria]

I can confirm it is still snowing.

[Fran]

Yeah, well, I should have covered or took my furniture in. I mean, it's two chairs and a thing, so it really doesn't matter.

[Ria]

So fine.

[Fran]

But it's so fine. But look at that. But yeah. It's so crazy. Yeah.

[Rhian]

This storm will be different too. Where?

[Fran]

I think from the snowstorm. Sorry, I'm having a blasting in front of my window right now. You're not watching on YouTube. Head on over.

[Rhian]

Yeah, like, the last time it snowed, it was freezing for like Weeks. So the snow didn't go anywhere, but I feel like this snow's gonna melt, like, in a week.

[Fran]

Oh, look at that. Look at the ice on the window.

[Ria]

It does look crazy. This is, like, a little day after tomorrow. You know, you're in the. Yeah, no, you know, it says that, but then at the same time, there's, like, snow in the forecast for, like, a lot of the rest of the week.

[Fran]

There is. There's snow on Wednesday. There's still on Thursday. There's snow next Monday. Yeah, there's snow every day. Sorry, I'm gonna calm down. I'm gonna calm down. No, there is, there is. I get what you guys are saying. There is a little bit of charm of, like, you know, we're all home right now.

[Rhian]

And also, like, it was during the Olympics. It was snowing. Like, we're watching the hockey game. It's snowing y outside.

[Ria]

Wait.

[Fran]

Oh, my God.

[Ria]

My friends just sent me this thing that is. Because on. If you're watching the broadcast, it was like, after the. The men's team won gold, they were like, their original plan was to fly to New York, but because of the storm, they're actually going to Miami. And we were all joking. I'm like, oh, no, they have to go to Miami. Like, they're so. There's. That's so upsetting. And a Miami sports reporter just posted this graphic that says, Team USA Hockey will be celebrating the gold at 11.

[Fran]

11. Oh, my God. That is hilarious. Yeah, that's quite the. That's quite the switch up from New York. 11. They're going to be at the strip club. Men's USA Hockey celebrating at the strip club. Oh, my God.

[Ria]

I mean, God knows what. What they're going to be doing. Yeah, I saw a bunch of videos of them celebrating in Miami, in. In Milan, too.

[Rhian]

You know, you see that one where they're, like, being interviewed and, like, the three of them are just so clearly, like, blackout drunk at that point. Oh, so funny.

[Ria]

I. Even when they were all in line for their medal. Who is it? Like, Trachea. I don't know all their names, so I'll probably fudge it up. But, like, you could see him mouthing,

[Fran]

yeah, someone in the truck.

[Ria]

He's like, yeah, Trojack. He was like, I'm getting so fucked up to.

[Fran]

It's Trojack has a. A back and forth with Matt because people tell them they look alike.

[Ria]

Oh, I could kind of see that.

[Fran]

So they, like, message each other, like, randomly, like, congrats, cousin. How you doing? Cousin, like, just like this back and forth. So people are always tagging each other. So yesterday he was like, I just sent him a dm, like, congrats, cuz.

[Ria]

As you should. As you should. Yeah. And I. Because I feel like I get. Like, there's that and then the cut.

[Fran]

What.

[Ria]

How do you say there?

[Fran]

I. To Chuck.

[Ria]

I always say their last name.

[Fran]

Weird, right? Yeah. You know what? Hockey last name. Sometimes.

[Ria]

Yeah. I'll just stick to Hughes.

[Rhian]

Yeah, the Hughes brothers are easy.

[Ria]

They're easy, and I like them a lot. The other brothers, not my cup of tea. Just.

[Fran]

Right.

[Ria]

Not my cup of tea for a lot of reasons, but the Hughes brothers, cutie pie, cutie pants. Love them. And now, what you were sending us, you know, a pretty.

[Fran]

A pretty big statistic, the bar mitzvah thing.

[Ria]

Yes.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Rhian]

I mean, hey, that's a very specific statistic. And. But hey, yeah, he's the Jack Hughes first golden goal and bar mitzvah haver.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Rhian]

Like, I, like, I saw who responded to it. Some. Some famous, like, comedian responded being like, I have one of those. But it's funny.

[Fran]

His. Their mom is sick, too. So she was on the women's ice hockey team back in. I think it was 1992 or 1994.

[Rhian]

I'm blanking on.

[Fran]

On which year it was. And so she was on the Olympic team for them. And then she's on the staff of the USA women's hockey team as well. So they're just a. And there's a big hockey family. I think their dad worked on the Maple Leafs for a little bit and who knows what else. I think they're just, like, very integrated in hockey. And then they have a. They have a third brother.

[Rhian]

I kind of felt bad for the third.

[Fran]

Make it to the Olympics with the rest of the.

[Rhian]

I mean, he's. He's. He's a young.

[Fran]

Yeah, he's younger. So he's like. I'm 22, I think four years younger than Quinn and then maybe two years younger than Jack.

[Ria]

Right?

[Rhian]

Yeah.

[Ria]

But also, he does still play hockey, right?

[Fran]

Yeah, he does.

[Rhian]

He's on the Devils with Jack Hughes.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Ria]

Oh, he's on the Devils with Jack.

[Fran]

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[Ria]

Amazing win for Alyssa.

[Fran]

Lou.

[Rhian]

I.

[Ria]

We were, like, on our way to leave, and I'm. I had it up on my phone, and I couldn't believe it. It was down to the wire and really coming out of numbers. But just a. Just a stunning performance. I love how she skates, you know, like, she gets out there. She's having fun. I think figure skating can have

[Fran]

a

[Ria]

little bit of almost, I don't know, like, uppity. Like, it's like they. They're so serious. Like, they get out there and polished. It's. It's like, must be polished, clean. Sure, they can smile, but it needs to be like a pageant queen smile. Not like, I'm really having fun smile. And Lissa gets out there, and she's dancing, she's moving. She's hitting all of her moves. She's hitting every jump. It was absolutely perfection. It was so great to see. She has such a wild story that just seeing her now win gold is. It's just so awesome. So that was so exciting. I was so cool. I was so happy for Amber, too, to, you know, after the short program disaster, she came back to do the free skate, and it felt like she crushed. It was the best triple axel she did. Wasn't like. I know she. At the end, she was, like, this close because she had, like, one little mess up, but it was good enough. To really, you know, push her all the way back to, like, fifth place, which is pretty impressive with the way it all went, but it was awesome. And, like, like you said, we were not here, so it's like we were getting ready to go somewhere and, like, in the hotel. And the women's hockey wins golden overtime. Right into Alyssa winning gold and figure skating. It was amazing. It was a great day for the ladies pump for them. I mean, the fact.

[Fran]

So sick.

[Ria]

The fact that both teams won gold against Canada in overtime. Amazing. And, you know, we do have amazing Canadian listeners, and we love you guys, but.

[Fran]

Yes, we do.

[Ria]

I don't. I don't know what to tell, but.

[Rhian]

Silver shines just as bright.

[Ria]

Oh, that. Yeah, that is.

[Fran]

That is beautiful.

[Ria]

That was.

[Rhian]

No, that's. Did you see that, Ria? Oh, you don't have Twitter. They.

[Ria]

Team Canada put out, like, a graphic. It said, silver shines.

[Fran]

Oh, no, I didn't see that.

[Rhian]

And they were getting, like, made fun of so much for that.

[Ria]

It's been fairly chaotic over there on Twitter when it comes to. To them talking about this game and all the. All the hockey. You know, it was. It was so. It was so intense waking up Sunday morning and watching the game. And I think one of the Canadian players, too, like, Nathan McKinnon, was like, I mean, you watched that game and tell. Tell me who was the better team. It's like, well, you lost, and you also missed a wide open shot, right?

[Fran]

Like, I've.

[Ria]

I've actually never seen a wide open shot quite like that. How wide open that shot was that he missed.

[Fran]

That's what happens, though, right? Like, you have a lot of people saying, you know, Canada was the better team for. For both women and men's. But then you're like, but. But they didn't win. And you kind of, you know, like, that's always. The argument is like, well, then who. Who won? But it was. It was so amazing watching both teams

[Ria]

when really got his teeth knocked out.

[Fran]

Full teeth knocked out, but really came away, you know, a huge winner at the end there. You're kind of like trading in. Trading in the teeth for a gold medal there. But I saw. He was asked, like, what was your first thoughts, like, after that happens? Like, where does the human brain go? And he mentioned Megan Keller. He said that he, like, immediately thought of her and her goal for U.S. women's. Because he saw her in the. In the. In the calf, they call it, you know, Olympic Village.

[Rhian]

He kept saying that.

[Fran]

I was saying the calf, and I

[Rhian]

was like, I saw her in the calf?

[Fran]

Yeah. I was like, wow, that is just Olympic village talk right there. He's saying how he saw her in the calf and, you know, congratulated them. So he was like, that's like, who I thought of first. So. Just a bunch of people scoring those golden goals, you know, See the.

[Rhian]

What him and Quinn said about like the night before, like, that they were like, couldn't go to sleep. And then like two hours after, like, they've been lying in bed, he's like, what are you. What are you thinking about? And he's like thinking about scoring that overtime goal. And like, he said, me too. And then like, he actually did it. Like, that's insane.

[Fran]

So sick. I mean, it's something you dream of, right? Like, I imagine all of these people in the Olympics, it's what they're envisioning and then it happens and I, you know, I, I'm seeing all those, those cheesy sayings, but it's so true. It's like, if you don't envision it, how will you be ready for the moment, you know?

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Rhian]

Mike Tirico had a great sign off shout out to Syracuse Newhouse graduate.

[Ria]

He did. He definitely did. I think, like seeing everything that they said. I mean, even Jax said that he was. That when he got that penalty towards the end of the game, he was like in the box thinking like, oh, man, I'm gonna end up. I'm gonna end up on barstool as like the most hated man in America. Quite the opposite. And yeah, just seeing him smile with all his teeth gone, his mouth bloody,

[Fran]

I'm like, amazing pictures. Amazing pictures that will.

[Ria]

Photos are. Yeah, they will live on forever. But I'm sure Tate McCray is like, hey, you gotta, you gotta fix those pretty quick.

[Fran]

Well, then that leads me to, you know, congratulations to all the Olympic athletes that, that won medals and everyone who participated as well, who didn't win. But now I want to, you know, go into. Is he still dating Tate McCray? Like, I, like, I am. I.

[Ria]

I mean, my guess would be yeah, but it's also like, they could be on a break considering he's been at the Olympics.

[Fran]

Right. Like, I'm just trying to figure if they are dating or not, because the last time that we saw them together, right, Was like, in December.

[Ria]

Yeah, I forget when exactly it was, but it's at this point, it's like, hey, I don't know, he's probably been in training. Probably like a crazy schedule. Put the focus on the Olympics. Maybe after he's won. It's like, hey, all the, all, all things open up now. I don't know.

[Fran]

I kept seeing memes being like, I'm Jack Hughes, I just scored the golden goal for America, and I'm dating Tate McCray.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Rhian]

It was all like, I stole your med and your pop star.

[Ria]

Oh, my God. No, it was, I know. There was a lot of commentary for that too, but I just like, it was, it was so great to, to see them win for so many reasons. And of course, we know it's been so long since 1980. And it was the same exact day, February 22nd to the day. And seeing them bring the dro kids onto the. Oh, I was sobbing like a baby. I, I sobbing like the baby. And also, once again, here's how Tick, like tick tock. Just your phone, your algorithm is just like listening to everything you're doing. As soon as the game was over, all day Sunday, everything on my for you page was either about hockey or honestly, like, videos of Noah and like, because she's, she's like a little star. Yeah, she's out there. There's. She's, you know, making all these little videos, I think with maybe her aunt. I don't, I'm not sure who exactly she, the, she is the one posting all these videos of Noah, but she's so cute and oh, my God, her smiling ear to ear on the ice with her and her little brother. And it was his second birthday and

[Fran]

I was like, so cute.

[Ria]

Kidding me. I was just like, full blown, you know, his family, their family there at the game, just an absolute puddle.

[Fran]

I couldn't. Yeah, they held up his jersey for him, which was beautiful. And I saw people talking, like, about how the kids, they immediately went into the arms of these players. Like, they were so comfortable with them, which is also so beautiful. And they were just happy to be on the ice. And that's. That is also a picture that will live on forever. It's just beautiful that they honored him in that way and also just so sad and so emotional at the same time.

[Ria]

I know, I know. But it's just, it's so nice for them to, to do it in that way because it is something that they will have forever. The kids will have forever. Their families will be able to remember and of course honor him since, you know, he was, should have been on this team. So I think having that moment was so special and just like, really icing on the cake of what an incredible accomplishment that that whole thing was really just what a fun. Like, I know I. I been joking about how much I love the Olympics, but I do, and I just think there's. There's so many shining moments, and it's just the peak of competition and everything that these people have dreamed of their whole lives, and they get to go and do it, and I love that women won the most gold for the US in this Winter Olympics. And, you know, we crushed a lot of. A lot of big wins. And I thought that was amazing. So, gosh, I was. I'm so. I'm sad it's over.

[Fran]

I know it was amazing all around.

[Ria]

Winter Olympics always go quick.

[Fran]

It did fly by, but it was honestly just so fun to watch this year. Like, it was all. It was all so fun and amazing to watch. And I'm sad that it's over, but it was. It was nice to have while we had it.

[Ria]

Totally. And I don't know if anybody's even going to know who I'm talking about, but if you kept the broadcast on after the hockey ended and there was a couple medal ceremonies that happened, there's this. I don't think I could even pronounce his name properly, but I hope people know who I'm talking about. There is a. I think he's Norwegian Skier. Cross country skier is the prettiest human being I've ever seen in my life. Like, I didn't say. Oh, my God, my jaw hit the floor. He was up there getting his gold medal. I guess he got, like. He has six gold medals now in. In cross country skiing. And, my God, it looked like a prince out of a cartoon.

[Fran]

Oh, they're calling him the new Winter Olympics king.

[Ria]

See, it's got to be him.

[Fran]

He has blonde. Blonde hair.

[Ria]

Yeah. He looks like Prince Charming. Do you see him? Yeah, I. I was taken aback. Like, I. His face came on this on my tv.

[Fran]

Sorry. I don't know why I'm laughing, because you kind of described him like it is like a cartoon.

[Ria]

No, I'm like, this guy. Yes. It's like a fake human. Like, I'm like, this is. It looks like. Like if. Like, I know Hans in Frozen, like, kind of has a little bit of a goofy look to him, like in the cartoon, but it's like, if Hans is a real life person, it'd be this guy.

[Fran]

Wow. Yeah, I see what you're talking about.

[Ria]

No, he's. And unfortunately, a lot of his pictures, you know, he's in the goggles and the whole cross country thing, right? Oh, here we go. I mean, my goodness gracious.

[Fran]

Yeah, I'm Seeing that that was him

[Ria]

getting his medal, I thought, wow, great hair. Fantastic hair.

[Fran]

He does got good flow going on.

[Ria]

Great hair. But I don't know if anybody. I saw that in the, in the, in the moment. But, yeah, that's it. That's it. And we'll see Everybody in. In LA in 2028. They're already starting to run the promos. They got Kate Hudson out here singing, which would not have been the person I expected to be in charge of the first ads for NBC for the 2028 Summer Olympics. But it's all under the NBC Universal umbrella. You're like, oh, song sung blue. SHE sings. Let's get. Let's get kid out there.

[Fran]

Yeah, they're. They're already marketing for it.

[Ria]

Absolutely.

[Fran]

Seems a bit early. But you know what? They got to get people pumped for something.

[Ria]

No, when the Olympics end, they got to be like, all right, we're on to 2028.

[Fran]

Like, we're on to summer, guys.

[Ria]

We're on to summer because it's. It's like, hey, we're on December and it's here. So that makes a. A big impact for sure. Oh, and by the way, we just saw this because it's like, it's being posted on the Internet right now, like, while we're. While we are recording. So we've seen bits and pieces of it. But Trump, like, making fun of the women's team, calling the guys in the locker room so ridiculous, so fucking lame and such bullshit because these women work so hard. And by the way, like. Like I just said, better this, like, more gold medals. More gold medals.

[Fran]

Right?

[Ria]

And just like seeing the camaraderie between the teams before.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Ria]

And how it's all felt like it was all good. Like, what you were saying with. With, you know, the Hughes's mom and like, all these things, and then he just has to come in and stomp all over it and ruin it.

[Fran]

It's just, like, so frustrating.

[Ria]

So frustrating. And it just takes. It takes such a turn because it's like, oh, you're so excited to see this moment. You're happy for these athletes. It's such, like, an awesome thing. And in sports, Unify this country. And then he's gotta step in and just ruin it by having to, like, knock down the. Oh, I'm gonna. I have. I'm gonna have to invite the women's team. Yeah, no shit. It's just. Whatever.

[Fran]

Yeah, no, it's brutal.

[Ria]

It's so annoying to see, and I just want those women athletes to know that you Are the best and your

[Fran]

performances show that, and they are unbelievable and we all know it. Exactly. So.

[Ria]

Exactly.

[Fran]

Just gotta let this stupidity, you know.

[Ria]

Yep. But yeah, that's.

[Rhian]

Have you guys seen the other huge thing on the Internet this past weekend that has also taken up my entire feed?

[Ria]

Oh, Punch the monkey.

[Fran]

Oh, yes. Oh, my God. I'm so glad that you brought up punch the Monkey because I almost forgot. I can't. I can't watch these emotionally handle these videos right now.

[Ria]

No, I can't. But he's been. He's been accepted, right?

[Rhian]

It looks like he has like a bodyguard now. Like one of the monkeys. That's one of the tweets I saw. And it's literally like a bigger monkey, like, protecting him.

[Ria]

Thank God they got some. They got some monkey stepping in to help.

[Fran]

Listen, when I saw rumblings of this, at first I was like, do not start feeding me these videos. And then all of a sudden, of course, I just was getting non stop videos of Punch first.

[Rhian]

I was like, I hope this is an AI. Like, this is right.

[Fran]

You were getting God again.

[Rhian]

Yeah.

[Ria]

Yes. So if you. If you somehow didn't see this monkey in the last few days, he is in a zoo in Japan. Yes.

[Rhian]

Yeah. Japan.

[Ria]

He's in a zoo in Japan.

[Rhian]

Which by the way, looks like more of just like a concrete pit. Like. Yeah, what zoo is this?

[Ria]

Yeah. And. And he was kind of like abandoned by his.

[Rhian]

I've seen abandoned. But then the more. More recent news I'm seeing is that his mother died.

[Ria]

Oh. So I don't know which is true.

[Fran]

Okay.

[Ria]

Well, either way, he. He started his life being raised by the human zookeepers, and that obviously doesn't let him assimilate into the group of monkeys. And they have a pretty legit system. We know that. I think a lot of people have seen it, especially for those. I know you guys both watched because everyone was like, this really was reminding me of. Of chimp empire. Yeah. Really. So once he was big enough or they tried to get him to back into the group, back into the pack, and he's just not. He's just non stop being bullied. I mean, the poor little guy was being knocked around and because he didn't have a mom, they gave him this stuffed orangutan. Stuffed stuffed animal. That was like his comfort. And he brought it around everywhere, carried around everywhere, hugging it, snuggling it. And you're seeing these videos of him getting tossed around by these big monkeys and then he's running to the stuffed animal. He's Hiding behind the stuffed animal, by the way.

[Rhian]

I don't know if this is true, but apparently he's only nine inches tall.

[Fran]

Listen, that makes probably. Is the whole thing is too much to handle. Like, I can't. And, and here's the thing. There's a lot of people that know more than we do about the way they, these monkeys act and operate and whether or not it is bullying or if this is just like the chain and how it happens. And all I know is the videos are just too sad at times. And then he has this stuffed animal orangutan on. On top of that, which is just like adding to the whole thing, which now I know why people had to make sure that this was real. Because you were like, you're watching this monkey with a stuffed animal orangutan. You're like, is this a real video?

[Rhian]

It is him, like falling asleep on

[Fran]

top of this, on it, using it to protect him. Like, it's crazy.

[Rhian]

Like being attacked by another monkey and then running across the whole zoo to get his stuff in, right?

[Fran]

And he's like, I need my stuffy. Like, I just need to be safe with my orangutan. And he's just carrying the fucking orangutan around.

[Ria]

No, it's.

[Rhian]

Did you see, apparently, because it's an ikea. It's from ikea, the stuff like that, they sent like a bunch. I think it's already sold out. I was trying to order one, honestly. Yeah, it's sold out everywhere.

[Fran]

It makes sense. It's. It's a hot toy right now. But this, you know, this reminded me of. I said this to Matt the other day where I was like, when we have kids and like, one day, what if one of them comes home and is like, being bullied? My heart can't handle it. Like, even thinking about that, I'm just like, what do you do, you know, what do you do when you find out your kid is being bullied? It's. I was, my nephew, Luca, it was his second birthday this weekend and he had his birthday party on Saturday. To infinity and beyond. Very cute. Very fun. He's very big into Toy Story right now and watching all these little kids play with each other, like, just like him and a bunch of other 2 year olds or 3 year olds or whatever. I'm like, this is so freaking cute, like, watching them all interact. But then you remember, like, one day he's going to go to school and

[Rhian]

what, they're going to grow into monsters.

[Fran]

Yeah. Like, what if he gets bullied? Like, I I just. Oh, my God. It's too much. It's too much on the heart.

[Ria]

It really. It really is, I guess. On. On Friday, the zoo. He's in the Ichikawa City Zoo, put out a statement that said that before that video was recorded, Punch attempted to communicate with another baby monkey in the habitat, but he was rejected. Punch was then confronted by an adult monkey, likely the mother of the baby monkey that Punch tried to interact with. And in the statement, the zoo said the mother may have thought her baby was annoyed with Punch, which upset her. The zoo statement said, while Punch is scolded, he shows resilience and mental strength. When you observe these disciplinary behaviors from other troop members toward Punch when he tries to communicate with them. We would like you to support Punch's efforts rather than feel sorry for him. It's, like, impossible.

[Fran]

It's impossible. It's impossible not to feel sorry for him when you're watching these videos.

[Rhian]

Also, whenever the zookeeper comes in and Punch, like, jumps onto the. That one zookeeper every time. I don't know if you saw those

[Ria]

videos, but yeah, so they also said he's getting. He's getting groomed, playfully poking at others, getting scolded, and having all sorts of experiences every day, steadily learning how to live as a monkey within the troop.

[Fran]

He's learning.

[Ria]

I hope so.

[Fran]

I'm sure we'll get more updates.

[Ria]

I hope so, because, my God, that was just the worst thing I've ever seen in my life. I just.

[Fran]

So sad, but also so cute, you know? I know it's a lot. It's a lot to handle Punch.

[Ria]

It really is. That is just like. Just like, make sure he's okay, you know?

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Ria]

But there is a system. It's like they want to get him back into the system of the. Of the. Of the family life, the troop life, as they call it, so that he's not fully reliant on.

[Fran]

On humans or on his stuffed animal. I know his orangutan.

[Ria]

I wonder what the other monkeys think about his stuffed animal.

[Fran]

They probably hate it.

[Rhian]

You know, they're probably like, are we. Are we just not going to tell him that's not a real monkey?

[Fran]

Or think they're talking to each other? Like, is someone gonna let Punch know that this monkey isn't real?

[Ria]

They're like, look at this little monkey carrying around this fake monkey.

[Fran]

Oh, it's all right.

[Ria]

Well, we're thinking funny. Stay strong out there, bud.

[Fran]

Stay strong. We are rooting for you. We are rooting for you on a, you know, very Sad note. Unfortunately, Eric Dane lost his battle with ALS on Thursday, it was reported. Just incredibly sad all around. I mean, everything had seemed to happen so fast with him. Yeah. And, you know, we're seeing so many videos. He had his thing on Netflix, Friend you said you watched. It's just all so sad and heartbreaking.

[Ria]

Yeah, it's just. It's super awful, super sad. We've known about. We've known about his battle. He has been open about it, and really, it seems like he just wanted to get a message out to his girls, his two daughters, with his. With his ex, Ruck Geheart, who they have not been together for a while, but actually never fully got divorced. And he kind of talked about that in the Netflix thing, but he did a Famous Last Words with Brad Falchuk. And he's being interviewed, and they're really just in a room, the two of them. No one else is in the room.

[Fran]

And

[Ria]

he's just sort of talking about his. His life, his experiences, his relationship with his family, his parents, you know, some of the moments in. In his career, things he's proud of, his family life, his history with, you know, drugs and alcohol and, you know, his relationship with his dad, and really sharing a lot of things that I'm sure were extremely therapeutic to. To get out there. But it really is a crazy concept because, you know, they start it and they're like, look, if. If you're watching this, that means Eric has passed because it's something that they recorded purposely for after he had died. So it's just. It's kind of crazy to see him speaking from that perspective of, you know, at this point, I'm not here anymore. So let me. Let me share my story. And towards the end, Brad got up and left and just. It was just Eric in the room by himself, and he just, you know, looked directly in the camera and was like, these are my. My last words for Billy in Georgia, his. His daughters. And it was just incredibly heartbreaking. I was another time crying like a baby. I just. It was so beautiful what he said. And I think it's a beautiful thing to have that moment, to be able to. To do that for his daughters, but also do it in a public way, which I'm sure, you know, people can have your opinion on, if that's a private thing you want to do or a public thing you want to do. But as someone that's in the public eye and has been in the public eye for a long time, I thought what a beautiful thing to do, not only for his daughters, but for other families that could relate to the situation that, that he is in or losing a father at a young age and kind of having that, that message. But my God, it's just so, so, so, so sad. So, so sad. And, you know, those. His girls are still pretty young, and it's hard to. To wrap your mind around because ALS is just a brutal, brutal, brutal, like, it's just brutal. So.

[Fran]

Right.

[Ria]

I mean, so sad to see.

[Fran]

It really is so sad. And it's kind of crazy to wrap your head around, you know, someone knowing that their life is coming to an end. As sad and scary as that sounds, when you film that.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Fran]

You. You know what's ahead. And the amount of courage it takes to get on camera and film your last words, knowing what's ahead for you is really quite heartbreaking and sad, but also, like you said, beautiful. At the same time, for him to be able to get his words out there for his family and for other people out there that are dealing with the same thing, because it is such a scary, brutal disease that so many people deal with, and it unfortunately takes a lot of people's lives and in such a quick way, you know, and we saw that happen with Eric that it seemed like one moment we heard of his diagnosis and, you know, the next year this happens, which is so incredibly sad. But beautiful words to watch and to live by and for his family to see that. And so many people that worked with him to have so many lovely things to say about him. He did film Euphoria.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Fran]

Apparently before. Before he passed. So that's interesting as well. But the whole thing is just so, so sad. And. And it's always a reminder that, you know, as sad it is that you just don't know. You just don't know. Yeah.

[Ria]

And it's. It's just another moment. He kind of spoke on this too, of just. You really gotta. You really gotta live your life in the fullest and not. And not take anything for granted because you just. You never know what's. You never know what's coming. And.

[Fran]

Absolutely, It's. It's so true. It's. It's one of those dark times that reminds you that you really don't know and you can't take life for granted. And also another reminder that you don't know what other people are going through, maybe behind closed doors that they don't even talk about their suffering of. Of this disease or many other ones as well. So just, you know, thinking about his family and friends and anybody else suffering from this right now because it's just so awful.

[Ria]

Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely so. And Brad, I thought Brad did a lovely job sort of navigating the conversation and giving him moments to speak, but asking really, you know, thoughtful questions, which, which was nice. So it's, it's a beautiful thing to watch even, you know, of course it's super sad. It obviously is. It's very, very sad. But still, just a, still put out a great message there and to kind of learn a little bit more about him and how he is, you know, how he reflected on his life.

[Fran]

Absolutely. All right, we're going to head into the rest of the episode and it's just a big TV recap day. We're going to do a lot of weekly Watch report. We're going to talk about Traders, Love is Blind, everything else we've been watching. So we're going to get right in to that. Let's do it.

[Ria]

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[Fran]

Weekly Watch report on Monday. Weekly Watch report on Monday. Weekly Watch report on Monday. Weekly Watch report on Monday. All right, let's get into everything we watched this week. It was a good week of television. I was excited to have a lot of things to Watch. We had traitors. Love is blind Love Story. I gotta break out my list for. For the things we watch. I'm catching up on on All Stars.

[Ria]

Shit.

[Fran]

My goodness gracious.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Fran]

My goodness gracious.

[Ria]

Finale's tonight.

[Fran]

Oh, shit.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Fran]

All right, well I'm gonna catch up before the finale tonight.

[Ria]

Yeah, I only have finale. It's live in the UK tonight, so.

[Fran]

Okay. Okay. Yeah, I have like, I want to say like three episodes left. I was really trying to chug along yesterday. Sunday was a great day to catch up.

[Ria]

Yeah. This was the weekend to do it.

[Fran]

It was. I was like, you know what? I'm doing this. I'm going to start off with the things that I'm just going to get out of the way first before we get into the bigger recaps. Watched is this thing on the Will Arnett, Laura Dern, Bradley Cooper movie. It was fine. Like I. I didn't think it was great and I didn't think it was bad. I thought it was fine. There were some funny moments.

[Rhian]

Yeah. By the way, since I watched it, apparently it's like semi true story which I didn't know when I was watching

[Fran]

it is based on. They said, yeah, someone, I guess it's not Bradley Cooper. It's not Bradley Cooper and it's not Will Arnett. But yeah, like I liked it. Like, I'm not gonna rave about it. I didn't find it to be one of the best movies ever watch and I don't know if I'll ever watch it again. But I understood the message behind it and I liked the concept. I mean, no, I remember you talking about this last week saying you have to like, you know, expand your reality.

[Rhian]

Yeah.

[Fran]

Kind of there.

[Rhian]

Yeah. Suspend your belief.

[Fran]

Suspend your belief. Yes. Or expand your reality. Whatever one you want to go with.

[Rhian]

I like that. I've never heard that.

[Fran]

Expand your reality. It just made it up here on the spot. But yeah, you sort of do. But it's fun because it's. It's once again takes place in New York City, the comedy seller kind of.

[Rhian]

Yeah. They don't ever like say comedy seller because I was talking to my dad about it, but he was like, if you aren't from New York, maybe you don't know like how like famous that place is. It could just be any comedy club.

[Fran]

Right. And you don't know that you can't just pop into a place and do that. But I kind of liked that he didn't like Bomb right away, you know what I'm saying? Like when he first Goes in, you're kind of expecting him to be like, oh, this is fucking awful. He's going to get up there and bomb. But he didn't really, like, people laughed. And it wasn't as uncomfortable as I thought it was going to be because I was kind of like, you know, when you. That first moment, you're kind of like cringing really hard. You're like, what's going to happen? But yeah, it was. It was fine. I will give it a B minus. I'll give. Is this thing on watch Neighbors. So Noah had talked about this, like, two weeks ago or maybe last week. It was this show on HBO that follows neighbors in different states and the fights that they get into. And now it's weekly. So I thought there was a bunch of episodes out, but when I first watched it, there was only one episode out, and now two is out, and I don't know when the third one comes out. So I'm caught up on both one and two. And it is a very interesting show. The dynamic of Neighbors and who's right and who's wrong. And my goodness gracious, some of these people are just so fucking annoying. Like, you're just like, oh, my God. It is interesting, though, and definitely funny at times, but also sad at times, too, because, you know, these people are dealing with this shit and they just want to, you know, live and neighbor, neighbor, neighbor banter, neighbor dynamics. And it is interesting, though. I'll give it a B. It's just something. It's quick. It's 30 minutes.

[Rhian]

Yeah, I have to watch the new. I haven't watched past one.

[Fran]

The second episode is crazier than the first. Like, oh, my God. But I won't. I won't give anything away, but, wow, I'll give that a B. And Summer House, I will give a B minus.

[Ria]

Summer House was a tough watch this week.

[Fran]

Yeah, obviously it's like, it's one of those shows that I'm always into, but at the same time, I'm like, no,

[Ria]

I mean, I love it. Like, I love Summer House in general. Just watching. Watching Amanda and Kyle fight like that on the beach was. Was tough to watch. And I don't know, there. There's some. There's a lot of deep, deeper rooted issues. I think with Kyle that as a viewer, it seems so clear, but for them in their real life, it is. It's not. But watching him become so defensive as soon as his drinking is brought up is such, like, it's just not good. And it really makes you think that there are Potentially some deeper issues there, because for him to kind of immediately go for the jugular on, on Amanda, it's like, oh, Amanda's just saying, hey, the partying, the drinking, if that was all reined in a little bit, I, I wouldn't be acting the way I am. Like, he, he keeps throwing all these accusations and all these things in Amanda, but he can't acknowledge that it all stems from his actions and his, his refusal to step back from the partying and the drinking and all these things. It's like, if you were to do that, maybe there is a way to save this. And instead, he attacks Amanda and he's like, you do this. Is this talking about her personality? He's like, get a personality. Like, I hated every second of having to watch it. And it also clearly looked uncomfortable for everybody else in the group having to see that happen. The boys kind of checking on Amanda and being like, you know, I think it was Wes who was like, I hate when Kyle gets like this. Like, it's, it's, it's too much like,

[Fran]

yeah, west was like, he's, he's just a baby sometimes. And I, week after week, talk about this man child. I don't have patience or tolerance for people like that. I really don't. It's like, get yourself together. You're a joke. You're actually a joke. I, I, I. The way that he treats her makes me feel physically ill because the fact that he can't wrap around in his brain, that it has to do with his actions, genuinely pisses me the fuck off. I'm like, how do you not get.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Fran]

That her actions are a direct reaction to the way you act. Yeah. Going back to before they got married, he had to sign something about his drinking, that if he didn't get his drinking in check, he would owe Amanda's parents every dollar that they put into whatever. How does he not see it? How does he not have any. Listen, you can enjoy your life, have fun, want to do things, go out, hang out with your friends, all those things, while also having a. Want to be a good husband and partner and, like, want better for yourself and for your family and for your wife. It's like he just. He automatically jumps to, okay, fine, I'll just stop drinking and I'll just stop DJing like, he's just a big baby. Like, he's just a baby. You know, it's the immediate jump to conclusion of, well, I'll just give up my entire life. And Amanda's like, well, yeah, like, you knew how I felt. And then you just started DJing. Like, it's. It's just a slap in the face. I can't stand it. I honestly, I have, like, I just. And every week people are like, but I love Kyle. He seems so fun to hang out with. I'm like, I actually don't see that. I actually just find him to be quite annoying because of the way he treats Amanda. Like, there's sometimes a line of like, yes, someone could be like a fun person to hang out with, and maybe they're bad in relationships. But at what point does it become like, actually, I'm just kind of like, grossed out by your behavior and, like, I actually don't even think you're fun anymore because you're gonna choose. I saw somebody put up a video that was like, him DJing in Kansas City this weekend, and it was like, this or Amanda Betula. And I'm like, you have it right there. Like, really, you chose this life instead of your wife? And to me, that's pathetic.

[Ria]

Yeah, because it really is. Like, it almost just seems perfect world. Kyle wanted to get Amanda to live his lifestyle, want to go out, want to be social all the time to all these things and him not have to change a single thing. Like, him just get to do what he wants. But she now has to change to his. To his life and what he wants to do. So.

[Fran]

Right. And if that's the case, and if you're like that kind of person and that's just like, you want to be selfish in that way, then best is that they're not together anymore. And now he can sort of do that and just live in his. In Kyle's world. And maybe he'll just be by himself or maybe he will be with somebody who adapts to his lifestyle, and then fine, good for him if he could figure out that. But Amanda did not deserve any of this. And he put her in a. In a shitty situation because, you know, now she has an attitude with him and now she's kind of given it to him and it's on TV and people are watching and, you know, it's like, oh, Amanda's giving him attitude? Well, yeah, no shit, she's giving him attitude because she's. She's fed up with having to explain herself to her husband that she has explained to him long before they even got married. So it's best now that they. They are separated and can hopefully just move on from this and they can both have what they want in life because clearly they did not want the same things.

[Ria]

Completely.

[Fran]

It's.

[Ria]

It's like you and I saw. I saw a lot of people saying this, like, thank God we are watching this and they are broken up, because if we were watching this and all this was happening and they were still together, it would be. It would be, like, impossible to wrap our minds around.

[Fran]

And I could see that Amanda is being nice to Kyle on Social, and I think it's because probably she. She seems like such a wonderful person, and I think that she's probably going to see the backlash that Kyle's going to get this season and is maybe like, hey, we're. We're cool now. Like, since we're separated and it's like, you know, you don't have to. We don't have to attack Kyle online or do any of that. We could talk about his actions and how much they're pissing us off, like, watching. But at this point, let them be separated and let them live their own lives and, like, for sure, you know, that whole thing. So I'll give. I'll give somewhere else to be. Minus. I want to learn more about the new people. I think that, you know, K.J. and Ben and Bailey and Levi, they're bringing, like, a fresh perspective to the show, and it could be fun to learn more about them. I'm not, like, annoyed by them, and I'm not, like, oh, my God, love them yet. They're, like, perfectly fine.

[Ria]

Yeah. Kyle and Amanda are really just dominating the storyline right now.

[Fran]

Sierra is cracking me up.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Fran]

He's like, I am this. You know, I'm a. I'm a strict probation officer, but I'm allowed to clock out.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Fran]

It's just very, very funny. And Wes being like, I don't know if we're friends, we're flirting, or she hates my guts, and that's kind of where she should keep him. You know, it's totally right where you want him.

[Ria]

Right. And he. Where he's got absolutely no idea. But it was cute, him being, like, so excited. He's, like, at the best side with Sierra.

[Fran]

Like, he's just like, it is cute.

[Ria]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Fran]

And then there's a preview for next week where Jesse's, like, asking west if he can make out with Sierra. And it's. And I just want to know, like, does Sierra have a say? Because all these guys are like, oh, make out with Sarah. This. That's like, I don't think Sierra wants to make out with you, so what does it even fucking matter? You know? Like, and. And Wes kind of says to him, like, you know, anybody else would be like, you're a fucking dickhead for asking me this. Like, kind of absurd, so whatever to that. But moving on to Love is Blind. My God, I feel like I'm just going off on all these, like, men on reality TV today because they are. They are just so frustrating to watch these. These pieces of, like, I. I was getting so boiled up watching Boiled up. I don't even know if that's. That's a phrase. Expand your reality boiled up watching Love is Blind. I mean, these guys are just such assholes this season. Besides maybe like, two of them, but really quite the pick of the litter here because. Oh, my God. Did you guys hear that? No, sorry. There is little clumps, clumps of ice and snow falling in front of my face right now. Wow. I'm watching from the window. Holy shit. That was wild. Sorry, sorry. Not to get off. I'm not getting off this rant right now. These fucking terrible men on Love is Blind. But the nerve that these guys have when these women wouldn't even look in their fucking direction in real life. Oh, goodness gracious. I don't even know where to begin. I don't even know where to begin. But I guess we just. I guess we just begin with Chris because he really ended up stealing the show in the 11th hour of love is Blind.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Fran]

Where he just turned into one of the worst humans I've ever seen. Now. Fucking show.

[Ria]

Absolutely. But don't forget that he does not give a flying fuck.

[Fran]

So. And he'll say it three or four or five times. And I love when Connor stepped in and was like, oh, no. He said. I've heard. This is the second. Third time I've heard him say this. Or whatever he said. This guy, Chris, this little troll, this little elf, this little fucking shrimp, really had the nerve to tell a beautiful, gorgeous doctor.

[Ria]

Doctor, okay, Infectious disease doctor.

[Fran]

Infectious disease doctor who is busy in the hospital on the daily. Saving lives, doing her work, being a boss that he wants someone who does Pilates every day. And he can't get past the fact that she doesn't work out every day. And he's looking for. And by the. And by the way, the fact that he kept repeating the Pilates part of it. I know. Pissed me the fuck off because it's like, you're just like. It just sounded like he's looking for a specific, like, thing, you know, like, it's not about working out. It's not about a routine. It's not about this. He's the Pilates every day.

[Ria]

Him saying that was him perpetuating the, like, stereotype of what a Pilates body looks like. And let me tell you something. I. I thought we were texting about this because we were both infuriated. Infuriated. I'm just like, do these guys own a mirror? Sorry. I'm just like, okay, great, Chris, if you like to work out every day, enjoy your time, fine. But to say that to someone. And then Bri kind of, like, defending him in that argument, he was like, oh, no. You just, like, want somebody that's on that same routine. Like, it's like, a routine thing. I was like, bri, you got. You have got to be kidding me. Because as of right now, Connor seems like a very sweet guy. Sure. Maybe, like, some immature areas here or there, but all in all, seems like a pretty nice guy. Like, he. He's. He's seems like he's got his. Sure, he's got a keg in the backyard, but. And his Christmas tree still up, but, like, those are things you could get past. But the way that Bri treats him, like, she's constantly talking down to him, constantly, like, kind of making fun of him, it seems. Then she's over here talking to Chris, like, defending him in this weird way, and Chris is like, I think you just. I think you need somebody, like, more dominant. And, like, all I'm like, is that supposed to be you?

[Fran]

I can't. No. First of all, Connor got a mustache and became, like, the most mature guy in the show. Like, all of a sudden, when they came. When they moved back home and Connor got a mustache, it was like, oh, Connor grew up, and he has mature thoughts now. First of all, I didn't want to go after any of the women on this show because the guys just suck so much that I was really disappointed when I felt like we had to criticize Bri here, because the guys are bad enough. We don't need a woman on the show enabling their bad behavior. Which, by the way, Bree, who is, like, mad that, you know, Connor has a keg and whatever, calls herself breezy. So if we're like. Like, we're stuck on a guy who's like. Like, you're like, call me breezy. Like, that's like, you know, like, I'm just.

[Ria]

Well, that's her name.

[Fran]

No, but her name's Bri, and she's like, call me Breezy. Like, as if that's not like, a fratty thing to do. Sorry.

[Ria]

Like, her nickname her whole life.

[Fran]

Right. But breezy is, like, a Fratty name. You're not gonna. You're gonna tell me Breezy isn't like, a frat name?

[Ria]

No, it's not. I, I do. I. I mean, I. I get what you're saying. I just think that's what their family.

[Fran]

Fine. That's her nickname. Fine. I'm just mad that we had to watch her.

[Ria]

No, I just told the up like,

[Fran]

her even to entertain Chris, right? I was like, why are we entertaining this conversation right now? Like, immediately it was like, I'm not taking sides. I could see where you're coming from. It's routine. That's not what he's saying. He keeps saying Pilates body like. Or, like, Pilates every day. Like, you. I get like, you know what he's saying with that?

[Ria]

And.

[Fran]

Which was pissing me off. And then on top of that, he gets into his, like, sex conversation and he's like, let me know, is this the best sex you ever had? She's like, no, but it's good. It's like, breezy. If you're going to marry this guy and you're saying this on tv, like, why are you even talking about your sex life with Connor? With another man? Like, to me, that is just so inappropriate when you're, like, engaged to this guy. It's, like, all around inappropriate. She. I don't think that she was defending Connor in those conversations at all. She. She wasn't defending her friend either. Like, all around was just a mess of a conversation in. In my personal opinion, and was so frustrating to watch because as bad as Chris is and was acting, because, my goodness gracious, he is terrible, you would hope that a woman talking to him would be like, bro, get out. Like, kind of like how Amber did. Like, Amber was like, nah. Like, Amber was killing me in the conversation with Chris where she was just like, she wasn't having any of it. Like, Chris was being annoying. Being like. You know, we say, like, Amber's crazy, but she was just like, I'm, you know, I'm walking away from this. Bri could have done that. She could have walked away. But for some reason, she has, like, a liking to him, I guess, because they bonded in the pods. And I'm just like, this guy is so not it at all. He's fucking terrible. He is terrible.

[Ria]

And I truly think that maybe he was like. I'm like, was he on drugs when he, like, was at that bar?

[Fran]

Oh, I think he was up because

[Ria]

the way he was acting was so crazy. I. I posted my Instagram. Like, a demon took over his body. I'm like, we haven't seen this guy act like, this one time. Now all of a sudden, he's this hotshot. They're talking about he. How he's on making an Instagram posting from a strip club, like, being like that. Like, it's like, ah. Like, what's happening literally is this, like, his true self coming out. Like, he was, like, just a fake person in the pods. And now, I don't know. It was just. It was just so bizarre to me.

[Fran]

And you see Bri and Jessica talking about, like, how and Jessica kind of protected Bri when, you know, Bri had said that Chris DM'd her, right? But then we see Jessica talking to the other women, and she's like, you know, he did message somebody. She doesn't say Bri. Like, she's. You know, And I'm just like, the nerve. The nerve of this guy. Really? I. I just felt so bad for Jessica in those moments because she is so awesome. And you could tell, like, just everything about her, like, the way she carries herself and she's so beautiful as well. So the fact that we have this little shrimp of a guy making her feel less than. Oh, it disgusts me. It does. I mean, and this is just the nerve that guys have in general. Like, they just. It's like, you. You really looked at yourself in the mirror and said, I have the nerve to talk about women the way that I do when I look like this. And you don't want to go low like they do. You know, you don't want to go lower and start making fun of the way they look when they talk about. But that. You just got to remind them. You're like, really? You're gonna say this? It's.

[Ria]

It's ridiculous, but it's. I don't know. They have. They have a lot of. A lot of couples this year.

[Fran]

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[Ria]

Then you got Alex, who's just living that nomadic lifestyle. He's nomadically living his life. He's a nomad. His soccer career ended. And he's going to remind you about that too. There's just sometimes when you get the guys like this, you're like, okay, you clearly have a lot to work on yourself before you have some sort of partner. A lot of talk about the soccer, A lot of talk about living nomadically. I, I, if I have to hear this guy say one more time either of those things. But now also, because in the preview he's like, you know, I, and he said it before is that, you know, he normally goes for, for darker features. Ashley is stunning.

[Fran]

She's a gorgeous girl.

[Ria]

You hit the lottery, my guy. And he's like, I prefer brunette. This is what drives me nuts. Because, like, then you're like, okay, you clearly had the wrong intentions coming on this show, all of those things. You're, you're an insecure man. You got all these issues. And you're gonna look at this another stunning woman and be like, I actually like dark hair and dark features. It's crazy. And I don't really think that they're compatible anyway. I think that, I don't know, the sex stuff was kind of weird. I'm like, clearly, Ashley, Ashley clearly needs her needs met.

[Fran]

The period that was her conversation when he was like, do you want to share your appear? What is going on? What is going.

[Ria]

Like I said, once again, he has a lot of his own issues that he needs to work through before he can be in a relationship. Talks about his mom and his family, and he definitely had a up parental situation. And, you know, he was an accident. And he's, he seems to be very afraid of being trapped into, like, having a baby. Like, I think that's what he's afraid of, that he, she's gonna get pregnant. And it's like, oh, my God, now like, I'm having a baby. And I don't think he really needs to be, you know, worried about that in this scenario. She's repeatedly said that she doesn't want to have a child right now, but it's just the same thing that he keeps on bringing up. And it's like, okay, you guys are not going to Work. And I saw people. I saw people loving her dad. No, thank you.

[Fran]

No, thank you.

[Ria]

Not for me. I actually didn't like one second of that.

[Fran]

Neither did I. I was like, what is this?

[Ria]

Like both of their ends?

[Fran]

Yeah. All around. I was like, this is fucking bizarre. And I didn't like it at all. And I also, now that we're talking about the parents, because you brought up her dad, Mike's family, the Italian family was so absurd. Like, wait, I love them. You do? Like, I just thought it was like such like a, you know, dominant. Like. We don't call it sauce. It's called gravy. It's. First of all, nobody. No, it's. First of all, you're going to open up a whole other conversation right now where it's not fucking called gravy. It's not. It's called sauce. But besides that, like, I.

[Ria]

It's crazy because you really are. It is going to be such a battle. My, My mother in law says gravy.

[Fran]

Does she? That's wild. That's wild. But no, I just felt like it was just, it was, it.

[Ria]

You.

[Fran]

Listen.

[Ria]

It was crazy what they were doing at the beginning. Like, I thought, oh, like they're, they're really, you know, they were doing the full. It almost felt. I called the Italian Inquisition. It was like, you know, we're a big Italian family. How are you gonna fit in? Like, just looking at her. But then I felt towards the end,

[Fran]

they

[Ria]

like dropped that a little bit and they were like, look like you guys are happy. These are things you talked about. Like, you seem like a lovely girl. It seemed like they were more open to it. But of course, right away, especially with, you know, that kind of family, it's like if, and, and you're. And an Italian mother with her son, just like, my boy isn't gonna, doesn't. Isn't gonna have babies. So I, I get it. Like, I'm sure that they're, they have their, their worries about that situation, but I, I mean, I love Emma. I think she is so sweet.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Ria]

And, and so genuine and has obviously extremely valid reasons for being nervous about starting a family. What I thought was crazy was them going to her family and she is definitely, I guess, shared with them or her family that she's never wanted to have kids and that her family felt like that was a hard stop. And now maybe she's entertaining it. And that could be a little like, whoa, are you okay? This is something you've never ever said. She's been fiercely independent. Her Whole life. Now this guy's here. Now she's like, oh, maybe because, like, he wants kids, but her sister

[Fran]

saying,

[Ria]

like, I have two kids. I love them so much. Like, I love my kids so much. But if I could go back and, and live this life again, I wouldn't have kids and just, like, live life for myself. I thought, what a crazy thing to say. As something, another thing where you're like, you're on TV and this is recorded and your two small children could eventually see this and be like, wow, mom never. If mom could have a do over, she'd want us out of here. Like, it's like, I.

[Fran]

You. You texted me and you really, you texted me. You were like, just wait until you get to this conversation. Now, here's the thing. I do appreciate mothers, like, being honest about their experiences and, like, what they go through and how hard it actually is to be a mom, because I do think a lot of it is, like, glamorized a lot of times or people like, oh, my God, you know, I would be nothing without my kids and all this. And like, and sometimes people aren't open and honest about, like, how hard it really is. So, like, I do appreciate that aspect of it. But the way that it was worded on like a big Netflix show like this, and you're like, man, these kids, when they grow up and see this, they're going to be like, so mom's basically saying, yeah, she wouldn't have us again. Felt like. Felt like it maybe could have been worded a little bit differently, you know?

[Ria]

Yeah, definitely.

[Fran]

Like more of like a, hey, if you don't want to have kids, don't. Because there is something to be said about living for yourself and just for yourself, and you don't have. Have to have kids. And I feel like that is. That is a great conversation to have. So I think it was the way that it was worded. It was like, whoa.

[Ria]

Yeah. It's like, oh, okay. It definitely could have been. Definitely could have been said in a. In a different way, I thought. But yeah, so I. That seems, that seems like a big issue for them, I think on the kids front. We'll see what. We'll see what happens. And the same thing with Amber and Jeremy, right?

[Fran]

His name's Jeremy Jordan.

[Ria]

Jordan. Why did I think Jeremy Jordan? Yeah, where it's like, oh, you see him in the pods and he's like, hey, my one deal breaker was no kids. And here he is with a woman with a child. And I'm like, okay, like, you're gonna, which is just, is just crazy to me on this show is you can ride this whole thing out to the end, potentially get married and be like, ah, you know, just didn't work out because she's, she has a child already. It's like, okay, well did you just do this to stay on tv? Because you had said pretty clearly that that was a deal breaker to you. So I don't know. But as of right now they seem to have a great relationship. So I hope that it doesn't become an issue because I think she is so great and deserves someone that treats her like a queen. And I think it could be him. Like, I think they, they could have a really great relationship if that's something that they can get on the same page with because she's gonna put her daughter first when it comes to where they want to live in the house and all these things. And he's very much like, I want to be close to the city. I want to be close to the city. So it. Is it going to be a problem?

[Fran]

It might, it might be. I do think Amber and Jordan are really sweet though. I really do. I really do like them together. I really like Amber. I, I think that she's great and you know, like I said earlier, I love that she like was having Chris's bullshit and I love the way that she like talks about like she's just had bad experiences with guys and she's like fudge these guys. And I love that. And you know, she has a 7 year old daughter and I think she's great and I think Jordan is great. It's just about if he is ready to take on the role of being stepdad and also not being near his dive bars that he wants to be near. So we'll see what happens there. But my goodness, are these people frustrating time and time after again when you, when you watch and you go, then why the fuck did you go on a show called Love is Blind when you had specific types? Yeah, you know Alex, like we're being so stuck on liking somebody with darker futures or Chris who wants a pilates body or whatever the fuck. It's like, well then don't go on this show. Okay, I have.

[Ria]

And then also guys that are just seem so disengaged. Oh like Devonta just seems like he doesn't want to be there.

[Fran]

No. Watching Devonte I'm like, okay, please. Britney is so cute, so beautiful, so like bubbly. She deserves a man that is interested in her and loves her and wants to be all up on her and showing her that love. And he's just. He's just so blah. It's like he has no personality. I just. It's. I. I don't know how long the show's gonna go on for, but it seems like it's gonna keep going. You know what I mean? Like, it's. You. You wonder when are we going to realize this whole thing maybe isn't working, but it's also so entertaining every time. But it's also. It's entertaining, but at what expense, right? It's like we're watching these men get to just, like, shit on these women and make them feel bad about themselves when they absolutely shouldn't be. And then they have, like, insecurities after this that they also had going in before. Yeah, I had a. A lot of women respond to my Instagram story being like, yeah, this is what we're dealing with in Columbus, Ohio. Like, these are the kind of men that are in the dating pool here. And it's just fudgeing bullshit. Like, and it reminds you of the stupid guys online, too, that just have so much to say about beautiful women everywhere. And you're like, what the fuck do you look? What are you bringing to the table? My guy. Seriously.

[Ria]

Yeah, Yeah, I know. You know what I also found so confusing? And, like, maybe it's how it works or not, but Christina, Vic are just a beautiful couple that seem to be mature and have real life conversations. And you're like, okay, this process can work. They're on their own show. Like, they're not. It seemed like when they walked into that bar is the first time they'd seen each other in weeks because they weren't in Mexico with all the rest of the cast. They were in Malibu. And when I looked it up, it was like, oh, Netflix or not, the production company only has, like, a set budget for a certain amount of couples. And this season they had more couples than usual. So it was like a budget thing that all of them couldn't go to Mexico. And I said, I'm so sorry. I don't believe that. Like, you're telling me you don't have enough money to send one more couple to Mexico? It was so weird. I'm like, that can't be the reason a budget issue that you can't send the lot. Like, one more couple to Mexico. Really weird. But seems like they had a lovely time in Malibu.

[Fran]

I.

[Ria]

Those two are adorable. And I'm like, wow. Listening to them have such mature conversations about life and what it would mean for them to be married and start a family and all these things. And you're like, you got to deal with Chris on the other side of this. But I don't even know if they were like, hey. And it seemed like they also thought, like, I'm. Whatever. Blame it on budgets. But then it was like, oh, also, you know, they're gonna pick the couples that could potentially have the most drama with each other. And those two were having drama with nobody because they were. They were locked into each other, which is like, okay, so punish them that they don't get to go to Mexico.

[Fran]

Like, weird, weird, weird.

[Ria]

But I have faith in those two because every time they cut to them, I'm like, ah, breath of fresh air. Two very mature adult humans trying to have a relationship.

[Fran]

Right. It felt like they. Netflix was like, hey, can you get some phone footage of you guys? Because none of these other countries.

[Ria]

We're not even sending a producer.

[Fran]

Yeah, we're gonna need to edit some of this in to make it look like, you know, one of these experiments worked. Crazy. I am interested what happened there, But I will give this season. I'll give it a B plus. I mean, like, yeah, I'm around the same.

[Ria]

The pods were funny enough. Like, normally the pods I find more interesting. And the pods were a little less, like, less exciting to me than these last three new episodes I thought were more interesting because these guys are starting to lose their minds. It appears.

[Fran]

It's just a hate watch. It's just, like, all around. Yeah. Moving on to traitors. So we are nearing the end. We are close to the finale now. This week, this Thursday night is the finale. And they almost had him. They almost had them this week. The faithful. They were right there, all right? They were almost at the fucking finish line. If they would have just trusted their gut, they just have no.

[Ria]

They have no confidence in any move. So it's like, of course, eventually, out of weeks of doing this show or whatever, you know, they're there for day after day after day that, like, eventually Rob's name is going to be brought up in conversation. It has to. There's no. It's going to get to a point where they're so confused. They just got to start naming everybody. So it's frustrating when you're like, you're on the right path, but they're. They have no confidence, zero confidence in anything that they're doing.

[Fran]

And then they just eat each other alive. Because finally, Tara is on it. She's like, I think it's Rob. And you're and you're watching. You're like, you know what, Tara? Yes, you're right. You got this girl. You've been doubting yourself. You've been doubting yourself the whole time.

[Ria]

But she said no reason. Yeah, like.

[Fran]

But why?

[Ria]

She's like, I don't know.

[Fran]

Yeah. She's like, well, we're just. We just gotta look at him. And, you know, she's been. She's like, I'm so bad at this game. She finally is like, I think it's Rob. Something's not right. Candace threw his name out there. You know, that was something. Candace throwing his name. She goes to Natalie. She's spreading it. They get to that roundtable, that man doesn't receive one vote. That man does not get his name written down.

[Ria]

One time she crumbled so hard, Terry.

[Fran]

Natalie just turn on each other.

[Ria]

And they were in it, like.

[Fran]

And honestly, justice for Natalie at that roundtable, Natalie was frustrating to watch at times during this show.

[Ria]

Yes.

[Fran]

But the way that it just flipped to Natalie when. When she brought up it be me maybe being Rob and Tara just crumbled and was like, I don't want to say anymore of who I think it is. And it's like, okay, but you are also playing a game, and I know that it can really, like, the wear and tear gets to you, and now time and time again, you're wrong and it's getting to you. And, you know, you see her break down in tears and she's comforted by Mark after. But it is. You are playing a game, and right now you have to name somebody. So just stick, like, stick with Natalie and be like, yeah, I did say it was Rob, but she all of a sudden was like, I don't want to say who. And then kind of just left Natalie out there to be banished. Because Natalie was like, what's going on right now? Like, you. We all talked about this all day, and now you guys are just cowering. Like, everyone just, like, backtracked, and they're like, we're just gonna fudgeing go for Natalie right now.

[Ria]

I wish Natalie. Because there's so many times at a roundtable where it felt like Natalie just went into hardcore defense mode. And instead of creating a good argument for why it could be somebody else, it was always either like, well, it's not me, it's not me, it's not me. And if you're the person that brings up her name, then she's just like, well, then it's you. So it just took a turn for her. And instead of being able to, like, shake people off of her and be like, actually, let's all have a conversation of why it could be Rob. They just lost it between the two of them. It didn't work out for her, which. Which sucks.

[Rhian]

And Rob wasn't good at defending himself.

[Ria]

No, he wasn't.

[Fran]

And it's just talking about this where

[Rhian]

it's like, he's had so much time to, like, come up with an excuse for that, and he had nothing other than, like, I don't know. I thought that was weird.

[Ria]

Well, you know what's so crazy, too, is, like, he just has. He has certain people, and now, of course, Eric is on the same side of him. But, like, Maura can't possibly fathom, like, we get it.

[Rhian]

Crush on Rob.

[Ria]

Like, she cannot. It's impossible. She can't even let his name be brought up and have a discussion because she's so, like, it's not Rob. Which is great for Rob, but it's just like, they can't even have a conversation at the roundtable about it being robbed because more's like, it's not Rob.

[Fran]

It's really crazy. It's like, listen, at some point, it falls, and you're like, you know what? It might be Rob. We're with him long enough. The show's over tomorrow. We had him here. Let's get rid of him now. All right? We're all going home tomorrow anyway. We don't got to keep him around. It's like, she just thinks. Because the one person she knows outside the show is with her there. She's like, I can't possibly be him.

[Rhian]

They're not even, like, good friends outside the show.

[Fran]

They're not. They're not friends at all.

[Rhian]

I think they just were on Love island, not. Not even together. She was, like, the host of the after show and, like, talk to him one time.

[Fran]

It is really nuts because Maura is talking about her defense of Rob as if she's Tara and Johnny.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Fran]

She's like, I could never believe it.

[Ria]

No, it's. It's. It's so crazy, actually. Baffling. She knows it's the. I take it's on Rob. Like, it's just like, I did. I take this. I take that. It's just. But it's not Rob.

[Rhian]

Like, yeah. When Tara. The way they first brought it up to her, her face was like, it's not Rob. Trust me. Trust me. It's not Rob. If it is, like, why. Why is it Right?

[Fran]

Like, why. Why is it not him? I know that is the question. But so he skates by again.

[Ria]

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[Fran]

Now we'll see. Like, my theory. Now I think we, like, we should talk about our theories going into this week. I think at some point he's gonna have to turn on Eric. And I think that it. I think that they murder Maura or Mark you.

[Ria]

I kind of forget how it ends. I'm not gonna lie every year. And I kind of forget how it ends. Like, if there is a traitor. You know what I'm saying?

[Fran]

Like, if it's like they go around and they. I think this is how it ends. Maybe I'm maybe. Oh, my God. Things are a little like, sorry, I keep getting here.

[Ria]

Yeah, but you like, I'm like, if he does turn on Eric and then they get Eric out, and then they think that that's the last traitor.

[Fran]

Yeah. Then they go to the end and it's like, do you believe everyone here is a faithful? That sort of thing. And then they say, yes, right? And then they all reveal themselves and they go, I'm a faithful. I'm a faithful. And then.

[Ria]

Right, right, right, right.

[Fran]

I'm a Traitor.

[Ria]

So if Rob. So if Rob, like, says, yes, we're all faithfuls, but then when they reveal, he's like, I'm a traitor, then Rob just wins.

[Fran]

Then Rob just wins. Because if. If they all agree and say, yeah, we think we're all faithfuls.

[Ria]

Because I just remember from how it's when it's only been faithfuls and then they just have to argue about the money.

[Fran]

Right. No, I think it's. I think they all have to agree, like, yes, we're all faithful here. And then they reveal themselves and it's like, yeah, Rob's like, I'm a traitor. Haha. I won the whole thing.

[Ria]

Strategically though, like, yes, it would make sense, I think, to try and get rid of Eric. But at this point, like, I don't. I. At this point, I imagine Rob is at his. At his most confident. Like, I. I think every roundtable has proven that, like, they could turn it. And I feel like he could probably create an argument for Johnny or something and they'd all be like, okay, like, yes, you wouldn't get Tara, but I think you could get the rest of them. Like, Tara's not gonna vote for Johnny, but I think you could. You could get Mark, Mora, Rob, Eric to all vote for Johnny.

[Fran]

Right. But if Johnny then reveals I'm a faithful, they're gonna go, oh, there's a traitor left. Yeah, yeah. You know, like, I think I. I'm not 100% sure how it's supposed to end.

[Ria]

Here's a good point.

[Fran]

Because I think that they would be like, there's got to be one more traitor.

[Ria]

Who do they murder, do you think?

[Fran]

I think. See, I.

[Rhian]

Mark is like, most people think Mark.

[Fran]

Most people think it's Mark. Mark, I guess, would be Mark, smartest in the bunch.

[Rhian]

Yeah.

[Fran]

So I'd be like, let's get him out.

[Ria]

I guess I would also go with Mark because the rest of them.

[Fran]

Yeah, I see that, like, you know, Rob's argument of more. Of murdering more. But then they might go, oh, he murdered more to get the stink off him, you know, in my turn.

[Ria]

Yeah, yeah.

[Fran]

And also you kind of need more as vote at the end because she'll be like, rob's a faithful.

[Ria]

My God. Won't vote against him. Yeah, I should absolutely kill. Keep her.

[Fran]

I would be nervous to keep Johnny and Tara together.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Fran]

And that's why I would maybe entertain murdering one of them.

[Ria]

Because I really wish we asked Mark this when he was on, because it just seems so clear and we've talked about this. Rhian you pointed out, too, I don't know how they're not having any conversations. That's like, it has to be a guy. Like, all the other traders have been women, so why are none of them, like, just, you know, statistically speaking, here it has to be a guy.

[Fran]

I don't know either. And maybe they are talking about it and it's just not being shown because there is so much footage.

[Ria]

We don't think they got all female

[Fran]

traders this year, right? Maybe. Maybe they're thinking like that. Who knows? But I cannot wait for this finale. I can't wait to figure out how this ends. Does Rob win at all at this point? He deserves to win it all. Like, I, you know, if the Faithfuls come out with a win here, I will be mighty impressed. I think it would be quite the turn of events, and it'll be shocking. And I think a lot of people would be excited, though, because they're just like, it would be a change up from what we think is going to happen. But all in all, I do think Rob deserves to win in the end because he's just gone by this this entire time and.

[Rhian]

But a lot of people's, like, argument to that is like. Like, he probably will win and, like, he's done fine, but it's like, he hasn't done anything crazy because he's just had to sit back and, like, no one's come for him. And then the second they do, like, it passes over and like.

[Fran]

But this is what. This is what happens, though, when people play a good. Then there's the argument of, are they playing a good game? Are they not playing. He's playing a good game. Like, let's. Let's call it how it is. Yeah, he's playing a good game. He. He did what he had to do to get out of the Lisa scramble, the Candace scramble. Like, he's playing a good game.

[Rhian]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Fran]

Like, the conversation always like, but is he?

[Ria]

It's like, no, he is. He is. He is.

[Fran]

He is.

[Rhian]

Yeah. The Faithfuls are extra bad right now.

[Ria]

Yeah, they're all time bad. But I. I'm curious what Pilot P was here.

[Rhian]

He'd be gone. Let's just say.

[Fran]

Oh, no. I mean, the. The fact that they all switched up on each other. I couldn't believe it. I was like, poor Natalie, who just.

[Ria]

Oh, yeah. Which does make me think, though, that if they murder, like, if Johnny and Tara are still left together at the

[Rhian]

end,

[Ria]

I think that they would go for Rob, because it does seem like Johnny did agree that Rob was a traitor.

[Fran]

So, you know, at the end of the episode when they. When it shows Johnny saying, there are two traitors left and it's Rob and Eric, I think that was edited in because they never showed his face saying it.

[Ria]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Fran]

And they just. It like moved quick and they just. You hear him say it, but you don't see him say it.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Fran]

And I'm wondering, and I don't want to not give Johnny credit here, but it was just weird that they didn't show him saying it where I'm like, I'm wondering if the faithfuls were doing so bad that in post production they went in and, you know, because sometimes they have to refilm confessionals. They went in and had him say, like, I know that there's two traitors left and it's Robin, Eric. Because maybe they were doing so bad that they were like, we gotta re film something here just in post to have something to have people wanting to tune into the next episode, which they will anyway. You get what I'm saying because, yeah, it was really bizarre to me that you didn't see. See him saying it.

[Ria]

I. I agree, but I also think, like, because they don't really show anybody speaking at the end because of like the. The trailer. They don't want to reveal who's been murdered. Like, if obviously they're speaking, then they know. Like, if you actually see them speaking, like, you're like, oh, then they weren't murdered. So I. I don't know. I'm just.

[Fran]

But it. Yeah, it wasn't a confessional though, when they showed it.

[Ria]

So I was like, really interested to see. So really, really interested to see how it all ends. But, yeah, look, the most clear path makes sense for Rob to lean into, you know, perhaps whispers of it being Eric and see what happens.

[Fran]

And

[Ria]

he could be the last man standing. We'll see.

[Fran]

We shall see. I will get this episode.

[Ria]

I'll give this one a B plus and I will. We just have to acknowledge Rip Natalie's club outfits she packed for an entirely different trip than being at the castle in Scotland. Pop off, girl. She's so. She's so jacked. It's like. It's so impressive.

[Fran]

Her body's sick.

[Ria]

Her body is crazy. But when I saw her walk into breakfast in heels and the dress I wore to the club on your Bachelorette, I thought, oh, no, I know you.

[Fran]

Immediately you're like, I literally wore this dress on your Bachelor. I'm like, I remember.

[Ria]

And. And it's. And it does crack Me up. Because it's like, that they do have to wear it all day. It's like, yes, you want the breakfast. But then they. Whatever. They have to do the challenge. But then it's right back into that dress.

[Fran]

I know. It's so uncomfortable. I'm like, props to her for rocking that club outfit.

[Ria]

Was that warm. And you're. That's a. It's a little dress.

[Fran]

No, it was. Oh, my God. That was so fun.

[Ria]

Rip Natalie's club outfits. You will be missed.

[Fran]

Yes. You will be missed. All right. That's everything. I. I actually love Island All Stars. I did mention I'm, like, three episodes away from being officially caught up. I totally get what you're saying now. Yeah. Lucinda is really hard to figure out.

[Ria]

So hard.

[Fran]

Incredibly hard to figure out. And these girls, they are. They are. She is getting to them. And at times, you can't blame them, you know? And. And I just watched Movie Night where they're like, we're. You know, Sammy and Belle and Whitney, they're like, we're hot heads, and, like, this is pissing us off.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Fran]

And I think she.

[Ria]

I think Lucinda absolutely knows that she's pushing their buttons. I just think Lucinda's fake. Like, I. And I don't meet. Like, she's entertaining. She's funny. She's obviously been good tv, because this is her, like, fourth Love island show that she's done. I do think she likes Sean, but at the same time, she says things that I'm just like. She totally doesn't mean that. Like, not to, you know, really give anything away. But there she says it earlier on, too, of, like. And they talk about it movie night. Like, I look up to Belle. Like, I. I think she's so strong. Like, I'm like, Lucinda, you're full of.

[Fran]

Yeah. Like, you don't.

[Ria]

Like. I'm sorry. I'm not gonna believe you're gonna, like, have these conversations with her, but then also be like, well, she's such such a strong woman that I admire so much. I'm like, no, you're just. That's, like, a performative thing you're saying. And if I was Bella, be like, shut up. Like, you don't think that.

[Fran]

Yeah. I can't understand her for the life of me. I really like either. And honestly, there really is nothing that pisses me off more as well when someone's laughing in, like, a serious conversation or a fight. And, you know, I understand people laugh. Like, get a nervous laugh, but all of the time, it's just like, you Know Sammy's frustration be like, she's pissing me off. Yeah, I feel you, girl. But I'm not all the way caught up. I will give All Stars an A minus because it is quite entertaining. And that's everything I watched.

[Ria]

I will give All Stars. I'm caught up.

[Fran]

I'm.

[Ria]

I'm on the. I'm on that VPN so I can see how it all ends live. I love when they bring the islanders back. All the islanders back, and they've all had, like, access to their phones, and so they start, like, ripping things that are happening online, like, to faces that just happened, which is always fun to watch. So I'll give that an A minus. I'm worried because let me tell you that, like, I'm on different sides of Tik Tok, where there's some people that love Lucinda and, like, they're like, yeah, she's so funny. Like, she thinks we all hate her, but we actually all love her. And, like, they're just in it for the plot of, like, having Lucinda and Sean win. But. I don't know. I'm not going to give too much away on who I'm rooting for, but it's not them. Traders. I'll give Traders. I'll give a B plus. And love is blind. Like, pods to me were a baby. These last three new episodes, I'd give, like, an A minus because I was way more locked in Summer House. Summer House will give a B as well, mostly because it just enraged me.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Ria]

What else? Oh, I'm caught up on Southern Charm. I know we haven't really talked about it that much, but it's been a fairly interesting season. I'll give it to the girls because they brought the drama. You know, everyone has their feelings about the Sally, but I just think, like, someone like Sally is just necessary to a show like this. Like, I think there's times when Southern charm can get really repetitive. And it's like, oh, every season we're watching the, like, the fighting is coming from the boys. It's like, oh, Austin and Craig are mad at each other again. It's just, like, can be kind of repetitive and there's not as much maybe dating aspects to it. And this season that changed that big time. And Sally just being, like, open and honest and, like, you know, I want Austin, despite him literally just breaking up with his girlfriend is a little nuts. But at the same time, like, it's making for good. It's making for good tv. This last episode, I'll give, like, this last episode I'll give a B. They are now on their trip. I think Craig's got to cool it with Vanita. I. I know that they don't get along, but I think he,

[Fran]

I don't

[Ria]

know, just like, sometimes says inappropriate things that he just. It's just rude. And I know he doesn't like Finita and he has his reasons and Vanita doesn't like him, but I don't know. It's. I, I don't, I don't love seeing that. And then I love Molly. I just, I love like Molly's. She's doing a little open mic night in this episode. She's got a great voice. I'm like, this woman can do everything. Like just. She's just. She's just the best. So that was great. And I'm caught up on Shrinking. The new season of Shrinking came out, which I had a bunch of episodes to catch up on, which was great.

[Fran]

I totally missed that. It came out.

[Ria]

Yeah, yeah, it's. I think like four episodes are out. I love this show. I just. It's just a warm hug. It is funny. It is heartwarming. It's just the best. It's a solid A. Like Joe and I watched one through four, like all in one night because we were loving it so much. I am caught up on the beauty. Noah, totally agree with what you were saying last week of the last few episodes. Sort of like the background of how this all started with the billionaires and Ashton Kutcher's character's background and all that. Very interesting. I feel like the end of this is going to be wild. I really liked it. B plus. I think. I think it's. I think it's good. These last few episodes definitely got way more interesting and I feel like you're seeing sort of a direction of where they're taking it and the manipulation and all that. That is. That's going on to get the, to get the drug out. Caught up on all the Chicago's. Across the board, probably B minus. We're gonna.

[Fran]

We're gonna.

[Ria]

We're in a lull until the big crossover event in two weeks.

[Fran]

Of course I am waiting for the crossover.

[Ria]

Big crossover right in two weeks is. Is coming. So I'm looking forward to that. And I did not watch the last Joe and I saved it because he got home late. But I didn't. We didn't watch the last Night of the Seven Kingdoms yet, so I have to watch that. But episode four of Love Story jfk, we didn't talk about. Oh yeah. Yes. So episode four came out. I'm just, I'm just loving the show. I don't know what to say. I, I, I'm loving it. I think a lot of it is probably fake as and yes. Which is so fair because, you know, we obviously don't know this in depth of the ins and outs of their relationship, but I think he's getting better. I think now that Naomi Watts is

[Fran]

off the screen, it's better.

[Ria]

And just like, this whole episode was way more focused on the two of them, which I loved. Boy. Did not not expect to see Dana Gordon playing her mom.

[Fran]

The absolute jump scare of realizing that that was Dana Gordon. Holy. Matt and I literally looked at each other like, no, is that.

[Ria]

Oh, no, she's no, her mom.

[Fran]

Literally, we were like, is that Dana Gordon? Like, genuinely afraid?

[Ria]

Like, yeah.

[Fran]

You know, it's like one of those things where, like, wait, this can't possibly seem right. No. Oh, my God. That was, that was a jump scare.

[Ria]

Totally. I, you know, I'm still a little, I don't know. I'm still a little iffy on him. I think Sarah Pigeon is fantastic.

[Fran]

He's great.

[Ria]

I just, like, I'm really loving her. So it's a, it's a B for me. I'm enjoying it. It's good. Honestly, one of the best parts is the music. Fantastic music in this show.

[Fran]

I'll give it a B plus.

[Rhian]

That was my best part, by the way. The Jeff Buckley something. I was like.

[Fran]

They went, yeah.

[Ria]

And they went. They're go. They're really leaning into the 90s thing, which, as they should. That's obviously when they were. When the time period is. But, like, both Joe and I on the couch when the beginning of Linger started, we were like, yeah.

[Fran]

Oh, that was a good one. Yeah. I'll give it a B plus. Let me tell you. I texted my hair girl and was like, hey, can we get highlights going? Like, I literally, I literally text her yesterday. I was like, all right, let's. Let's get the appointment. I got to. I want to throw some blonde back in my hair.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Fran]

You know, just inspired by the blonde locks on Sarah Pigeon right now. But, yeah, no, it's enjoyable. I get what you mean about Paul Anthony Kelly. Listen, I love a fresh face, though. That, that's what excites me is, is seeing fresh faces. Get their start, get there, get their shine. No, he's never been in anything before, and that's why I just keep reminding myself, like, let him find his footing. All right? This is his first television show. He's probably getting used to it. All right. So, yeah, no, it's enjoyable, though. And like you said, a lot of it's probably fake.

[Ria]

Oh, yeah.

[Fran]

But I think their chemistry is so good, and I think that's a big draw.

[Ria]

Totally. I think their chemistry is.

[Fran]

So the two actors. Their chemistry is really, really great. So, yeah, that's a. That's a B plus for me.

[Ria]

Yeah. And it's crazy because he has such a specific look in the show. Like, he obviously really looks like JFK Jr. In the show, but they're. I'm seeing him now because they. Hulu also did a pot. Like a, you know, short, firm, podcast kind of situation for this show as well. And he's. He's got a mustache. He's got this curly hair. I'm like, ah, this looks like a totally different guy. We were like, did he get a perm? Like, is this. How did he get his hair like this?

[Fran]

Yeah, it is. It's awesome, though, to see him transform for the role because he does really look like him.

[Ria]

Yeah. I just, like, I need a little more emotion from him in the show, and I don't know if maybe. Maybe that's just like, JFK Jr. Wasn't like that.

[Fran]

I don't know.

[Ria]

But, like, even in the. In the makeup breakup, I'm like, give me. Give me a little more.

[Fran]

Yeah. I don't know if I, like, I. I sort of get what you're saying,

[Ria]

but I do think it's because he's kind of monotone.

[Fran]

Yeah, I do.

[Ria]

That might be why.

[Fran]

Right. I just do think that their chemistry is so good, and I think it is. I'm sort of falling into that.

[Rhian]

I just find it hard to, like. Because I've seen interviews of JFK Jr. And I'm like, this guy just doesn't have it. He just doesn't have it.

[Fran]

Oh, like.

[Rhian]

And like that. Like, no one. Like, it's hard.

[Ria]

I don't think anybody.

[Fran]

I mean, it would be hard to replicate.

[Rhian]

I don't think he's really, like, necessarily like, that close to having. Like that. Like, yeah, he kind of looks like him, but, like, that's it. Like, he doesn't have that.

[Fran]

Caroline is played by Meryl Streep's daughter, Right?

[Ria]

Yes.

[Fran]

Okay. I just want to. You know, I. Oh, really? It could have been a Google search.

[Rhian]

Yeah. I didn't realize that was her daughter.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Fran]

Right.

[Ria]

What's her name?

[Fran]

I was just trusting my knowledge on that one.

[Rhian]

I can kind of see it now.

[Fran]

Her.

[Ria]

Yeah. What's her. I always forget her name. Oh, Grace Gummer. Yeah, yeah.

[Rhian]

No, Street.

[Fran]

Yes, her.

[Ria]

Her mom is Meryl Streep. Yeah, she's married to Mark Ronson. Really?

[Fran]

I didn't know that. Huh.

[Ria]

I think she plays a great. I think she's great.

[Rhian]

Yeah, she's good.

[Fran]

I mean, she's bound to be great.

[Ria]

Yeah, totally.

[Fran]

Smarl's daughter.

[Ria]

I know, I know. But yeah, that's. That's everything for me.

[Fran]

When you see me rocking blonde hair soon.

[Rhian]

Okay. I watched a ton of.

[Fran]

What were you gonna say?

[Ria]

So I was going to say blonde hair, a nice crisp blouse.

[Fran]

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[Rhian]

Ton of Landman I only have like five episodes left of season two now, so I watched like the, like, I guess, yeah, 15 episodes or something. It's good. Like it's entertaining. Not the greatest show you'll ever see, but like, obviously, Billy Bob Thornton's always good, and, like, it's kind of fun. It's honestly, like, pretty funny. Like, the dynamic that he has with Michelle Randolph's character, like, which is his daughter in the show where, like, it's, It's a good mix of funny. There's a lot of action. Like, a lot of things are going bad all the time. People are dying. Good family dynamic. Jon Hamm, he's in it to me more. She's, she's pretty good at being an unlikable character. And, yeah, I'll give it a B plus, I would say, like, it has me, like, binging, so that's good.

[Fran]

Nice.

[Rhian]

Tell me lies. I guess I'll give it, like, a B plus.

[Ria]

Like, I guess we have to grade the finale.

[Rhian]

Yeah, it was, like, a good. I liked it, but it, I wasn't like, this is a great. It just wrapped things up for me that it kind of felt like we were there. Like, we have to wrap this up. Like, that's our main goal here. And it's like, it felt a little bit rushed. And I said it last week, but I felt like, didn't really match the tone that was set up until this point. Like, it was very, like, serious and dark. It felt like. And then we're like, you know what? Let's just, like, wrap it up in a really funny, lighthearted way, which I was fine with, but it just, it didn't really, like, it wasn't what I was expecting or necessarily, like, wanting. But fair.

[Ria]

Yeah, super fair. I think I, I, I guess if we're all grading it, I would give the finale, Honestly, I give it an A minus. I, I enjoyed it. And I, you know, I, I listened to, I listened to Jackson on Caller Daddy, and he was funny because he was like, I hope, like, people laughed. Like, I hope it was like, I think it was. He's like, I thought it was hysterical because you're like, you know? And Alex was like, people obviously didn't want Stephen to win, but that's just sometimes the way life goes. And I thought that made a lot of sense. And he was like, no, he's like. I thought the ending was, like, hysterical.

[Fran]

It was. I thought it was funny, too. I'd also give it an A minus.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Rhian]

Okay. And then I, I watched the latest episode of the Beauty.

[Fran]

That.

[Rhian]

That's, like, a solid B plus right now. Like, Ashton Kutcher is growing on me.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Rhian]

Like, he's pretty good. And, yeah, all, like, getting all the backstories and everything. And Anthony Ramos is just like, he'll always be the best part of the show. His characters so good in this show and he's, he's so good in it. So yeah, that's the show that I look forward to every week. That's a B plus Traders. I'll give an A minus. Like it's still like the chaos and everything is. I'm loving it. Like, it's fun to watch these people just like be so dumb. Like there's no other way to say it. Like, or scared. I don't know. Like, I mean more is just no offense to her, like, love more. But like in this game she is just so dumb. Like it's crazy. Like I think she's single handedly like winning Rob the game and. Yeah. So I'll give that an A minus. And honestly, like, I really hope Mark doesn't go home because he is like our only hope. Not that I don't even think he. Like they don't even have enough numbers really, where like it would probably wouldn't happen anyway. But like he, he's at least refreshing where like he actually thinks about things.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Fran]

And like when he, when he looked at Rob and was like, look at me in the eye and tell me you're not. And Rob was like, yeah, like.

[Rhian]

And he's like, oh, that's all I knew.

[Fran]

Rob basically told him, yeah, I am a traitor. And it's still.

[Rhian]

Oh no. When, when he, when, when Mark laid down on the pool table next to Rob. They're both laying down. He goes, they're playing us. And I'm like, you're so.

[Fran]

That was, that was Rob's dive into the pool and hide moment. Except there's a pool table.

[Rhian]

The Pit. Another great episode.

[Ria]

Oh shit. I'm caught up on the pit too.

[Fran]

I forgot.

[Rhian]

Oh, really? Yeah. I would say this last one, I'll give it an A. I'll bump this one up to an A. Like, I think it's just really good. Like very sad. But I think the new character they brought in, what's his face back, which was nice. I like him in it.

[Fran]

The.

[Rhian]

Yeah, I don't forget his name now. But I like the way that the new characters are now like mixing in with the season one people. Like, I think it's all kind of working.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Fran]

I.

[Ria]

It's the Pit. This last episode is an A minus for me and I thought it was very interesting that they're going to. It was a great ending because now we're going fully like technology off. Like.

[Fran]

No.

[Rhian]

Yeah, that's cool.

[Ria]

Like, a full system shutdown is going to be crazy to watch because of a cyber attack, which is once again another very real thing that happens.

[Rhian]

So, yeah, the one thing that I am seeing, which I like, wasn't really thinking about that much, but when you think about it, it's kind of like. That doesn't make any sense. Where it's like, it is supposed to be July 4th, and it's like, what's her face has a deposition in the middle. Like, why would she have that on July 4th? Why is there, like a high school football team practicing on July 4th? Like, there's all these things happening on July 4th where it's like, no one has anything on July 4th. Like, that's like a holiday for everyone in the country. So when you actually think about maybe

[Ria]

he's on a really intense football team that's making them work out on. On July 4th.

[Rhian]

Maybe.

[Fran]

Why.

[Rhian]

Why is. Why does someone have a deposition on July?

[Ria]

No, that I don't know. Because I every. Everything. The government's closed, so.

[Rhian]

Yeah. But. Yeah, I'll give that an A. JFK Jr. Is like a C plus.

[Ria]

It's called love story.

[Fran]

Just.

[Ria]

Just grading. JFK, JFK Jr. I'll give.

[Rhian]

But the thing is, it's like, I thought that this is one of those shows where it's like, what is it like American Horror Story or like. Or like Monsters, where it's like, the name of the show is Love. I didn't know if there were other ones to this.

[Ria]

Yeah, the name of the story is Love Story. The Junior.

[Fran]

They're going to make it.

[Rhian]

So they're going to make more. So it's like, I'm not going to say just Love Story.

[Fran]

The next one's going to be C. Kelsey Ballerini and Chase Stokes.

[Rhian]

I'll give that like a C plus as my grade. Although I. I enjoy watching it just for, like, all the things that you mentioned, like the music, the. The New York city in the 90s. And also just like, the fact that I'm interested by that family. But I. It is like, there's so many points where it's like, just too. Too corny for me. And like, in the. And he's just. I don't know. I. I don't think he's that great. Like, no offense to him, but that's fine. I just. I just can't get past, like. I just think they cast a guy who looks like him and he doesn't have the acting chops. But I'll give that A C plus. And then Knight of Seven Kingdoms finale last night. I thought it was great. Like, I'll give it an A minus. Like the whole show is probably an A, like just like a. They wrapped everything up. And though the way they ended it, I don't think this gives anything away is like, because people were saying they thought they were only going to get this one season. So it kind of has a nice like ending to it where like you don't.

[Ria]

Where you think there could be another season or you think it just.

[Rhian]

No, like, like I think it's confirmed that they're. They're doing more now. But the way that they had shot this, it looks like they did it not thinking they would have more. So they ended it pretty like, like ending.

[Ria]

Oh, so they could not.

[Rhian]

I think it's confirmed. I think they like came out and said like HBO came out and said, yeah, it is. Yeah.

[Ria]

HBO has renewed for a second season.

[Rhian]

Yeah. But that kid, like, he better win some Oscars because especially in this there's

[Ria]

more material for it too. Yeah, I'm like, I'm like, how many novellas does George RMR and have about these two? I guess enough.

[Rhian]

Yeah. What's his name though, who you're talking about? Egg Dexter. He better win. Like, he was so good. Like, I don't know how. Like, no offense to JFK Jr. I keep going back to him but like going from that to then this like 11 year old, like putting on like an insane performance of a lifetime. Yeah, I'm like, this is the, like, this is, this is what acting should be. No offense, jfk.

[Fran]

Oh,

[Ria]

if you shave your head, can you still excel and like, like, hey,

[Rhian]

you have a great hairline, buddy. You're a good looking guy, but that doesn't mean you're gonna be JFK Jr. But yeah, I'll give that an A minus. And that's all I watched.

[Fran]

All right, a good week for tv. We got more to catch up on this week. It'll be exciting to watch the the Traders finale and we'll talk about it next Monday. And Love is Blind and all that. So that wraps up the weekly Watch report. All right, that wraps up today's episode of Chicks in the Office. Olive wants to give everybody a good

[Ria]

goodbye kiss right into the mic.

[Fran]

All right, that wraps up today's episode. Reminder, tickets are on sale for the tour. We're going to be starting to announce our guest this week, so we are so excited. So look forward. I was going to say tune in. Look forward to that on Socials the announcements coming soon. And we will be back on Wednesday with another episode. We love you guys so much. Talk soon.

[Rhian]

Yeah. Jake's in the office. Longtime listener, first time caller.

[Ria]

Look at the charts.

[Rhian]

Who does it the best? Two chicks getting paid in reality checks you can find them at the gym

[Fran]

it's not even a flex?

[Rhian]

Last minute red carpet flew them out on the jet? Yeah, they're who you want to be they're always on your screen? Two queens and they might be spilling

[Fran]

royalty A lot of topics that are

[Rhian]

popping here to get into I know a show that you probably probably want to listen?

[Ria]

Turn the heat up turn the beat

[Fran]

up record the pod made a bag put their feet up the ones that

[Rhian]

leave no crumbs when they clean up?

[Ria]

Who's the pod that they all want to meet up? Who turned the heat up?

[Fran]

Turn the beat up record the pod made a bag put their feet up

[Rhian]

the ones that leave no crumbs when they clean up?

[Ria]

Who's the pod that they all want to meet up?

[Fran]

Sa.