The VS Fashion Show Delivered + BIP's Andrew Spencer & Alexe Godin Interview

Summary

Chicks in the Office: The VS Fashion Show Delivered + BIP's Andrew Spencer & Alexe Godin Interview

Hosts: Ria & Fran (Barstool Sports)
Date: October 17, 2025
Guests: Andrew Spencer & Alexe Godin (Bachelor in Paradise)

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Episode Overview

This episode of Chicks in the Office brings listeners the latest in pop culture with a heavy focus on the newly returned Victoria’s Secret Fashion Show and an in-depth, candid interview with Bachelor in Paradise’s Andrew Spencer and Alexe Godin. Ria and Fran deliver their signature banter, breaking down reality TV bombshells, sharing TV and movie takes, and hosting a spirited round of pop culture trivia. Notable moments include reflections on inclusivity at the VS show, unfiltered discussion about Bachelor Nation’s evolving cast dynamics, and playful deep dives into recent romcoms and TV phenomena.

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Main Segments & Key Discussion Points

1. Weekend Chit-Chat and Pop Culture Catch-Up

(02:21–07:18)

• Hosts reflect on personal downtime:
  • Ria looks forward to her first plan-free weekend in a while ("I'm actually in my home, gonna change over my closet… get all the sweaters out of storage." [03:11]).
  • Fran and Ria joke about third-wheeling dinners, TV marathons, and prepping for their upcoming tour.
• TV talk highlights:
  • Fran is finally catching up on "Black Rabbit."
  • Ria recommends they discuss its ending next week due to its binge-worthiness ("That was one of the first shows in a while that I really didn't want to exit out of." [04:29]).
  • Quick reference to “Love is Blind” and its “shock of the century” breakup: ("Nick was like, I'm not going to the altar." [05:00]).

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2. Tour Announcements & Meet and Greet

(07:18–08:24)

• DC show is the kickoff for their tour, with a pre-show Truly meet & greet at Franklin Hall (Oct 22, 6pm).
• Kalen Bristow announced as first guest for DC.
• Tickets are still available.

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3. Victoria’s Secret Fashion Show: Honest Review

Timestamps: 11:53–26:29

Show’s Comeback and Critique

• Marketing was lacking ([12:00]–[14:22]):
  • Ria: “Incredible, incredible… poor advertising. I really feel like people did not know that this was happening…” [12:09]
  • Both struggled to even find the show on Prime.
• Styling & Show Vibes:
  • Fran: "Thank God they went back to, you know, some bouncy hair. The slick backs last year were not working." [14:42]
  • Bouncy blowouts returned, but not entirely; “a sleek blowout” dominated [15:10].
• Theme, Performances, and Influencers:
  • Themed sections like gold and red were praised.
  • Madison Beer "is the closest thing to AI." [16:01]
  • Influencers' presence discussed ("Back in the day it was the super, super supermodels… now… more inclusive and more accessible." [17:02])
  • Ria acknowledges models' frustration at influencers taking runway spots, but says "influencers are working hard too… they're not gonna say no." [17:20]

Notable Show Moments and Personalities

• Angel Reese, Suni Lee, Gabby (Josh Richards’ girlfriend):
  • Ria: “Gabby was so good… I watched that clip… when Josh saw her, it was a cute clip…” [20:00]
  • Controversy: Josh Richards was not given a ticket, sparking incredulity.
• Supportive Husbands:
  • Dylan Sprouse handing out endometriosis pins; Patrick Schwarzenegger cheered for his wife.
• Big Performers:
  • Carol G and Missy Elliott “Get Your Freak On” closing the show discussed with admiration.
  • Rolling Stone's ranking of “Get Your Freak On” as #1 21st-century song: "Not my personal best, but I think that's hilarious" [24:41].
• Sierra Miller’s Look:
  • The hosts gush over Sierra Miller: "She needs wings. Put her on that Runway." [25:15]

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4. Bachelor in Paradise: Andrew & Alexe Interview

Timestamps: 28:41–67:09

Introduction & First Impressions

• The couple's first official podcast appearance (despite tour stops and live shows).
• Andrew: “I feel like you're the most shown [on my feed].” [28:54]

Paradise Experience & Dynamics

• Why they returned (or decided to join):
  • Andrew: "It was perfect timing…I was not talking to anyone, like, romantically." [30:43]
  • Alexe: “Bachelor was very serious… Paradise just fit my personality.” [31:17]
• Their relationship dynamic:
  • Alexe: “I want to be dating my best friend, that I also want to fuck.” [32:42]
  • Andrew: "Her honesty is a little bit too honest… she’ll just, like, blurt out anything and everything." [33:11]
• Fun with the extended BIP friend group and behind-the-scenes skits ("We just took things extremely slow… wanted to see each other all the time." [32:29]).
• Logistics of filming: timing, required secrecy ("…you're not allowed to do really anything because you would be spoiling the season." [36:11])

Paradise Format Changes

• New location setup with "Goldens":
  • Air conditioning, shared rooms, and activities increased connection; opportunity to get to know each other naturally [43:13].
  • "Sleeping next to someone is a massive feeling…especially if you're gonna propose" [44:46]
• Golden Bachelor Contestants:
  • The "Goldens" (older contestants) brought warmth, humor, and parental wisdom to the cast.
  • Andrew: "It was just like this, like, parental, like, warmth." [56:53]
• Money Element:
  • Money as a prize introduced a competitive twist but also exposed "raw feelings." [43:14]
  • Andrew notes the show felt more “unproduced” and organic.

On Spoilers & Reality TV Drama

• The hosts share a self-deprecating tale about falling for a fake spoil on Zach’s season, receiving ridicule from Reality Steve, and learning to distrust unverified spoilers [39:14].

BIP Friendships, Breaking the Show Bubble

• Cast remains close, especially those from Andrew's original season ("…they became my brothers. They've been to like funerals of my families…” [50:45]).
• Not all is transactional, but Bachelor Nation is clicky—real friendships are rare and valuable.

Living Logistics Post-Show

• Andrew and Alexe currently live apart but are planning their next steps: Alexe’s considering moving to Chicago, with hopes of a “year in New York” together. [96:04]

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5. TV & Movie Takes

Timestamps: 68:25–94:45

Quick Takes & Debates

• ‘The Wrong Parrot’ Romcom
  • Fran: “I know it’s bad, but it was good.”
  • Both agree it’s entertaining for Bachelor fans thanks to tropes and fake reality TV.
• Materialists (Movie Review):
  • Ria: "There was no chemistry for either of them," especially between Chris Evans and Pedro Pascal's characters [80:21].
  • Andrew felt the film mirrored real-life dating dilemmas, although the prosthetic-height surgery subplot seemed unnecessary.
  • The discussion segues to the real-life popularity of limb-lengthening (“height”) surgery, which the group finds both fascinating and absurd (“Imagine… you had a growth spurt at 35!” [85:57]).

Bachelor in Paradise: Team Jeremiah vs. Team Conrad

• Lively debate over "The Summer I Turned Pretty":
  • Andrew is fiercely Team Jeremiah: “I just hate Jeremiah the least.” [70:42]
  • The hosts are Team Conrad, knowing that “Belly wanted Conrad.”
  • Analysis of characters’ communication styles, the siblings’ trauma, and why the love triangle is so divisive. ("Conrad is the most icky human I've ever met in my life. He's the most toxic man…" [71:15])
• The group laughs over romcom tropes, actor chemistry, and pop-culture plot holes.

Fantasy, Sci-Fi, and Franchise Movies

• Fran prefers love-story-driven fantasy (Twilight) versus high fantasy (Harry Potter/Lord of the Rings).
• Praise for Game of Thrones; disappointment with House of the Dragon’s plot.
• All wish for more villain-origin story movies ("Why not give us, like, the Voldemort story or him killing Harry’s parents?" [92:12]).

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6. Pop Culture Trivia Game

Timestamps: 100:05–124:43

• Theme: Movie and TV knowledge, reality TV, music, and pop culture.
• Notable Question Topics:
  • Zac Efron's character in "The Greatest Showman" (Philip).
  • SNL’s 50th season finale host (Scarlett Johansson).
  • Taylor Swift songs in "The Summer I Turned Pretty" (Cruel Summer).
  • Details from romcoms ("How to Lose a Guy in 10 Days"), Disney Channel Original Movies ("Lemonade Mouth"), Friends (Monica’s turkey head), and more.
• Memorable quote:
  • Ria, after a close round: “We're flying through these.” [115:31]
• Winners get show merch, regardless of outcome.

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Notable Quotes & Fun Moments

• On the VS Fashion Show:

  • “Thank God they went back to, you know, some bouncy hair. The slick backs last year were not working.” – Fran [14:42]
  • “If you were to put [a model] into AI, it would probably spit out Madison Beer.” – Ria [16:07]
  • “They couldn’t give Josh Richards a ticket to see his girlfriend walk the Victoria’s Secret Fashion show?” – Ria [20:38]
  • “Sierra Miller... She needs wings. Put her on that Runway.” – Fran [25:15]

• On Bachelor Nation:

  • “I think we were just cracking up the whole entire time that it was just like, we can't even hear any discussions that you guys are having. Literally laughing.” – Andrew [32:07]
  • “Her honesty is a little bit too honest… she'll just, like, blurt out anything and everything.” – Andrew on Alexe [33:11]
  • “It was a massive feeling that you gain...especially if you’re gonna propose to someone.” – Andrew, on sleeping next to someone [44:46]

• On Pop Culture:

  • “It's always that… A man that has the wealth and everything… and a guy that knows [will] love her to the end…” – Andrew, on romcom archetypes [80:02]
  • “I just hate Jeremiah the least.” – Andrew, on the Summer I Turned Pretty love triangle [70:42]
  • “Would you love me if I was short?” – Ria, mocking the overdramatized height-surgery plotline [83:06]

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Important Segment Timestamps

| Topic | Timestamp | |-------|-----------| | Weekend/catch-up | 02:21–07:18 | | Tour & Meet & Greet Info | 07:18–08:24 | | VS Fashion Show Breakdown | 11:53–26:29 | | Andrew & Alexe BIP Interview | 28:41–67:09 | | Movie/TV Takes & Trends | 68:25–94:45 | | Pop Culture Trivia Game | 100:05–124:43 |

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Takeaways: Why Listen to This Episode?

• Fresh and unfiltered hot takes from trusted reality TV and pop culture voices.
• Inside perspectives from Bachelor in Paradise couple Andrew and Alexe: get to know their dynamic, the truth about friendships in Bachelor Nation, and their lives post-show.
• Laugh-out-loud moments and honest reviews—whether you watched the VS Fashion Show or not, Ria and Fran’s breakdown gives you all the viral highlights, controversies, and the lowdown on fashion’s evolving inclusivity.
• Fun, highly relatable trivia section that tests and celebrates millennial/gen Z pop culture memory.

For those who want the pop culture scoop, fandom insights, and reality romance behind-the-scenes, this episode is a must-catch.

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Full episode available on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, YouTube, and Amazon Music.

Transcript

[Ria]

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[Listener Caller]

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[Fran]

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[Listener Caller]

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[Ria]

What's up everyone?

[Fran]

It's Chicks in the Office with Ria and Fran giving you that Friday energy on a Friday. Happy Friday Friday everybody. Giving you that Friday.

[Ria]

Oh, I like that Friday. This is different.

[Fran]

Is it? Oh, I was trying to do the one from a couple weeks ago.

[Ria]

Energy.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Ria]

Yeah. But the giving. You like that had a little more R B to it this time around.

[Fran]

I was just trying to change it up. How are we feeling? We're going into the weekend now.

[Ria]

Good, good.

[Fran]

Still adjusting.

[Ria]

Yeah. But I'm, like, so excited for this weekend. It's maybe the first weekend.

[Fran]

Wherever the wind takes you.

[Ria]

First weekend that I'm, like, home.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Ria]

I think maybe since the beginning of the summer, I don't think there's been one weekend that I've had zero plans and, like, I'm actually in my home.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Ria]

So I'm excited. I'm gonna change over my closet from my. To get all the sweaters out of storage. Woke up with a little chill this morning. It's 45 degrees.

[Fran]

I went, oh, do a little refresh.

[Ria]

Exactly. Maybe clean some stuff out. Get rid of some stuff. So I'm very much looking forward to that. Will be a lovely. A lovely weekend. And because it's our last weekend before we head out on. On tour, and we'll be traveling for the next few weeks, so that's always exciting, but it's nice to have, you know, one. One time, one little weekend at home.

[Fran]

That sounds fantastic.

[Ria]

Yeah, it's gonna be nice.

[Fran]

Same thing for me. Yeah. So same sort of deal. Me and Matt were just planning on, you know, grabbing dinner, grabbing drinks. Tomorrow night.

[Ria]

Sounds so nice before the tour starts.

[Fran]

Probably with you.

[Ria]

Joe's away this weekend, so you did. I said, I'll come.

[Fran]

Yeah, you did say, I'll probably third wheel. Yeah. I said, that's perfectly fine, honey.

[Ria]

We're going somewhere nice for drinks. He said, count me in.

[Fran]

Yeah, I'm there. And. Yeah, that's really it. Keeping it. Keeping it casual. Fast Five is on the docket this weekend. Haven't watched yet. So that's lined up. Started Black Rabbit. Very good. I'm behind, obviously, from everybody else.

[Ria]

If you do finish it.

[Fran]

Yes.

[Ria]

Like, if you watch it fast, we could talk about it on Monday.

[Fran]

Perfect.

[Ria]

I haven't talked about the end because.

[Fran]

Zero plans for Saturday and Sunday. So you will find me there because you.

[Ria]

You'll fly through it. Like, I. That was one of the first shows in a while that I, like, really didn't want to exit out of. When a new episode, like, started playing, it was like, oh, play the next one. Play the next one.

[Fran]

Yeah, we watched two last night. Two episodes.

[Ria]

The first 28 episodes.

[Fran]

And then Pretty foam. We'll fly through it.

[Ria]

Yeah, it's really good.

[Noah]

I'm telling you. You guys should watch Task.

[Fran]

I.

[Ria]

That's.

[Fran]

Next Task keeps. Keeps popping up as well.

[Ria]

Yeah, I gotta. I think. I think Joe would probably want to watch that.

[Alex]

So.

[Fran]

Yeah. Love is Blind. New episodes were out, and I mean.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Fran]

Spoiler shock of the century.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Fran]

That Nick was like, I'm not going to the altar. I said on. And I need to acknowledge that because on Monday, I was like, I know for sure that Nick is just gonna get married because he feels like it's just what he has to do.

[Ria]

Yeah. Yeah. I really thought that those two would be the ones that actually say yes. Me too. Absol.

[Fran]

Absolutely not. He said, you can't make me.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Fran]

You cannot make me get on that altar.

[Ria]

But it's just, like, so funny because the way it's cut together and, like, the edits, it's just like, you're sold. One story with a person. Like, Nick was so. It seemed so into it. And so. And, like, what everyone else is saying on the cast, like, oh, like, Nick seen, like, he was maybe manipulative. Blah, blah, blah, like, kind of all these things. And then they have. Like, all they show is one incredibly awkward drunk conversation. And the next scene is, you can't get me to marry. Like, I will not be showing up, and you can't make me. And that's it. And you're like, wait a second. Wait a second.

[Fran]

Why?

[Ria]

Like, I thought they were. I thought they were headed down the aisle. They were ready to go, and all of us. Like, I had to pause it for a second and rewind it because I was like, wait a second. Are they breaking up? Like, what's happening? And boy, I mean, yeah, she. That was it. She was like, it's over. And she. That was a tough convo.

[Fran]

It was extremely tough.

[Ria]

Drunk and was like, I just want you to love. Love me like I love you. And he. We. He was like, are you okay?

[Fran]

He. She kept saying how much she loved him on. During the breakup. And he was like. Basically. He was like, I don't care. You're not getting it. I don't want to be you. Like, to sum up what he said. He did say, like, that.

[Ria]

Yeah, but.

[Fran]

But that was the gist. It was close enough where he was like. And then we had Joe and Madison.

[Ria]

Yeah. I mean, no one's. No one wants to run more than Joe.

[Fran]

Are you not caught up?

[Ria]

Oh, I haven't watched 10. Oh, yeah, I haven't watched 10 yet. I only watched nine. I mean, he's. Joe's gone. Like, Joe's gone.

[Fran]

Joe is gone. Joe's gone.

[Ria]

Joe's in his white pickup truck driving across state lines.

[Fran]

Joe is gone.

[Ria]

Yep.

[Fran]

And in his words, it is what it is. That's what it is.

[Ria]

Yeah. I mean, I don't know what. I don't know what show Joe thought he.

[Fran]

We'll talk about it more on Monday.

[Ria]

Yeah, we have to. I know, I know, I know. I have to watch 10, but you have to. And then the weddings will be on.

[Fran]

Yes, that'll be next Wednesday. But we do have a couple of things coming up. Tour starts next week. Our first show is in D.C. but very exciting if you can't make it to the show or if you are coming to the show and you want to do a double whammy. We will be doing a little meet and greet with truly on October 22, which is for the night before. We're doing that at Franklin hall at 6pm with Truly. We're gonna have a couple drinks, we're gonna talk, we're gonna chat, we're gonna take pictures, do the whole thing. A nice little meet and greet at the bar. So if you're pretty dc. Yeah. A little pregame for the show the next day. So if you're in dc, please come by. We want to hang with you. We can't wait.

[Noah]

I'm excited for dc. I like DC a lot.

[Fran]

I love dc.

[Noah]

Go to the monuments again.

[Ria]

Yeah. DC is a fantastic city, so I'm very excited as well. It'll be a lot of fun.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Ria]

We're gonna have to kick off tour.

[Noah]

Kaylin Bristow.

[Fran]

Yes. Kalen Bristow was announced as our first guest for dc.

[Ria]

So exciting.

[Fran]

And there are still a couple tickets on sale if you want to get any last minute spots. Make sure you snag those tickets. And we can't wait. So that is all very exciting.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Fran]

And we have a great episode with Andrew and Alex from Bachelor in Paradise. Andrew has, you know, been a friend of ours now for a little bit and has come on the tour, has been on a live show, but he's never been on this show before the actual podcast, so had to have him on. And Alex, they're great. They're fun, really funny. And we talk about Bachelor in Paradise, we talk about TV shows, movies. We really got into it all, which is so fun. It was fun.

[Ria]

It was a long chat. But he's a movie guy, you know, so you can really. He's just like, he's a movie TV guy. He'll talk forever.

[Fran]

And he's got takes. And I appreciate that. I love that. But before we get into all that, and we also have a great game of trivia, really spectacular game.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Fran]

We want to talk about the Victoria's Secret fashion show.

[Ria]

And before we talk about that, Noah, you have a good birthday?

[Noah]

Yeah, I had a good birthday. I would say so. Got drinks with some people here and then had dinner with my. I was kind of like semi drunk. By the time I got to dinner, I'm like, shit. But I had a good dinner with parents and brother and lovely.

[Ria]

Just wanted to pretty chill. This is gonna be my final acknowledgement of your 30th birthday.

[Noah]

You know, do I keep this up behind me?

[Fran]

I was thinking that you can until the year.

[Ria]

I think you should keep it up.

[Fran]

For a little bit until the year.

[Noah]

Five years from now, it's still.

[Ria]

It's only had all the post its up for so, you know, so many days.

[Fran]

I think until the new year, you can keep it up.

[Noah]

Okay.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Ad]

Yeah.

[Ria]

I mean, your call, bro. Right?

[Fran]

Whatever you want to do is your.

[Ria]

Area if you're decorating.

[Fran]

Yeah, you wish.

[Ria]

You're getting tired of it and you want to take it down.

[Noah]

White wall behind me.

[Fran]

No, it's nice, kind of nice to.

[Ria]

Have played white wall behind you for years, so.

[Noah]

Oh, I know. And it's nice to a little color.

[Ria]

Pop, a little depth.

[Noah]

Yeah.

[Fran]

Yeah. You know, it's really up to you.

[Ria]

Hey, maybe you want to. Maybe you want to put something else up there.

[Fran]

Yeah. A new poster.

[Noah]

What should I do? Oh, Happy birthday, John Mayer. It's John Mayer's birthday.

[Fran]

Oh, yes. Happy birthday, John Mayer.

[Andrew]

Sure.

[Ria]

He's having a lovely birthday. Did you see that video Cat posted?

[Fran]

Yes, I did. Where she was like, if somebody did. I don't know how people wake up with everyone talking about them and personal lives. Yeah. Yeah, that was funny. Yeah. So one last happy birthday to Noah.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Noah]

Thanks, guys.

[Ria]

That's the final bow on the birthday.

[Noah]

Or so you think.

[Fran]

Well, we get. Well, we got him. We snagged him a reservation for his birthday.

[Noah]

Thank you, guys.

[Fran]

So coveted.

[Ria]

True.

[Noah]

Oh, so then that really isn't over.

[Fran]

No, that. That wraps it up.

[Noah]

Like that's not November.

[Fran]

That's November 1st. But you enjoy that on your own.

[Ria]

And we won't be with you.

[Alex]

We won't be with you.

[Fran]

It's with your family.

[Noah]

They don't have to be like, thanks, Re. And Fran.

[Fran]

You don't have to thank us.

[Ria]

No, you don't have to thank us.

[Noah]

So it'll be another post. Collab. Post.

[Fran]

No, you enjoy that. You enjoy that on your own time. Your personal time.

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[Fran]

But we do want to talk about the Victoria's Secret fashion show was last night. The second year in a row that it's back.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Fran]

And everyone, you know, has a lot of takes about it because it's a lot different than what it used to be. And you know, everyone has a lot to say. I enjoyed my time watching it.

[Ria]

I will say I thought this one was exponentially better than last year for sure. I think that they found the sweet spot again of what they should be doing now. I will say incredibly incredible. Like, poor advertising. I really feel like people did not know that this was happening on. On Wednesday night.

[Fran]

I feel like they were given a big budget, not enough sponsor, like not enough bidding and big budget not happening.

[Ria]

I feel like I would. I used to see, you know, commercials or ads or billboards, like all these things for it. And I will say everybody in my personal life had no idea what was going on. Like my friends group chat, they were like, holy shit, Victoria's Secret fashion is on today. And even when I went and I didn't watch it live, like I went on and put it on after. I had to go and search it on Prime. Like when I opened prime, it was nowhere in any of like the opening Carousel homepage. I was like scrolling for it. I was like, it's not here. I had to literally search. Like I searched into the search bar Victoria's Secret fashion show for it to show up. So I was like feel like it's really not being broadcast or like advertise as much as they've used to where I feel like not a lot of people knew it was going on when it was.

[Fran]

It also started at 7pm which is an odd time for things to start for people, I believe. Yeah, yeah.

[Ad]

Yeah.

[Fran]

You know, we all are all conditioned to, like, 8:00pm or 9:00pm or 7:00pm you know, people are still eating dinner and stuff. You're throwing off. Right.

[Ria]

But it's like. And that's why it was nice. You know, obviously, it's a lot that you can watch it live or you can just put it on at whatever time you want to put it on. Just crazy to me that I feel like no one was really talking about it beforehand. And then, bam, it was here. Even, like, the new people that they had in the show, like, they put a bunch of influencers and prominent people in there. And even from them, I feel like it was only the last couple days. Like, I don't know if they told them, hey, you know, don't post about it until right before.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Ria]

Because even looking at people's Instagrams, it's like, oh, they're just sharing that this is happening. And it's like, two days before they're doing it.

[Fran]

Right. There wasn't a ton of marketing.

[Ria]

Yeah. Even some of the models, like, I'm like, they were not sharing at all.

[Fran]

Candice Swanpole, you have Adriana Lima, you have Alessandra Ambrosio. You got all the top notches.

[Ria]

You got. And you got new, like, new models doing it too. I've not done it before. And I was like, I'm looking at their Instagram. I'm like, there's literally nothing on this about how they're doing the Victoria's Secret fashion show. I'm like, I would be screaming from the rooftops.

[Fran]

I know. It was very confusing with that. Thank God they went back to, you know, some bouncy hair. The slick backs last year were not working.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Fran]

We were like, where's the bouncy blowout?

[Ria]

But I will say bouncy blowout was.

[Fran]

Back, but not fully. Like, a lot of it was, like, straight.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Fran]

Hair.

[Ria]

Yeah. But it was better than last year.

[Fran]

No, definitely better than the slick backs of it. Don't get me. We love a slick back. I'm literally. My hair's in a slick back ponytail right now. But for the Victoria's Secret fashion show, we want the voom. Yeah, but I wasn't getting a lot of voom curls.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Fran]

You know, with the. It was more like a. A sleek blowout. Blowout.

[Ria]

Like, you know, maybe there's something about, like, having the hairstyle last that they need to kind of, like, keep it more structured.

[Fran]

Used to last back in the day.

[Ad]

Yeah.

[Ria]

Yeah, that's true.

[Fran]

They were walking down bouncy as hell.

[Ria]

That is true. That is true.

[Fran]

Giselle's bouncy blowouts walking down the Runway, for sure, that bounced.

[Ria]

But there was some. Yeah. Like. And the. The themes were all really good. I felt this year, like, the gold was great.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Ria]

The sexy red was great.

[Fran]

Great.

[Ria]

The performances were great.

[Fran]

Madison Beer fits perfectly.

[Ria]

Madison Beer. Like, when Madison beer then walked the. Like, the catwalk herself is crazy. I was watching with Joe, and he goes, she's got to be the closest thing to AI and I said, that's so true.

[Fran]

1,000%.

[Ria]

That is so true. Like, if you were to put into AI, like, it would probably spit out Madison Beer.

[Fran]

Yeah. No, it. She. Yes, exactly. Like, perfect. Perfect woman.

[Ria]

Yeah. And the voice of an angel.

[Fran]

Yeah. She sounds fantastic. The only thing is, the pink segment used to be a lot more fun.

[Ria]

Yeah. Yeah. It was toned down, a little bit colorful. They did, like, the whole football thing, and it was just cute.

[Fran]

Definitely more toned down. Not a lot of props and all that.

[Ria]

I feel like normally way more props.

[Fran]

I feel like they could have amped up the pink section a little bit more.

[Ria]

Maybe they wanted to, like, ease everyone back in because they just brought pink. Was just back for this one.

[Fran]

Right. But I did think everybody looked fantastic. I mean, people have a lot to say, oh, why are influencers whatever? I think they looked great. I mean, I. I thought everybody looked like a Victoria Secret model up on that Runway.

[Ria]

Yeah. I think that's, like, kind of what the thing is with Victoria's Secret now, too, is that, like, back in the day, it was the super, super supermodels that were getting this call.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Ria]

And now I do think that they want it to be more inclusive and more accessible. So it's like, yes, they are influencers, but it is more so, like, hey, this is a not. This is not a supermodel.

[Fran]

This isn't a 6:2, you know?

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Fran]

Supermodel.

[Ria]

Right. Exactly. That's, like, it's. It's more fun. It's people you recognize. It's like, you know, people who have been watching who want. Dream of an opportunity like this, trying to get, like, try to get an opportunity like this, which I think is cool. And I. I know I saw a lot of people on Tick Tock, too, or, like, other models on Tick Tock be like, you know, we work so hard, and we want these jobs like this. And then when they go to influencers, it's, like, very disappointing. And I understand that. Like, I'm sure that that is frustrating, but at the same time, like, the Influencers are working hard, too, and it's an awesome opportunity for them. And they're not gonna say no, right. If that's. You know, it's not. It's not there. And they're not. They're not blaming influencers. Like, it's not their fault, obviously. It's, like, just how the show's been cast. But I could see being a model.

[Fran]

Being like, this is my fucking dream. And.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Fran]

Can't even get in the room.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Fran]

But you see both sides of that situation. But everybody looked unbelievable. They did. It was definitely better than last year, for sure.

[Ria]

Definitely better.

[Fran]

Definitely better.

[Ria]

I thought Carol G also so good.

[Fran]

Yeah, she's.

[Ria]

Carol G. Is something else.

[Fran]

She's amazing.

[Ria]

And she started dancing.

[Fran]

No. I literally was like, oh, my God. I just wish I could move my body like Carol G. But the cameraman loved Carol G. So much. So that blocked out Amelia Gray.

[Ria]

Yeah. Yeah. You know, Emelia Gray had a pretty iconic, I would call it, first look on the Victoria's Secret fashion show. You know, she's in this little slinky red number, open back, and then just, like, the. The tiniest song of all time.

[Fran]

Shoelace.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Fran]

If you.

[Ria]

If you could even call it floss. Like, like, truly.

[Ad]

And really.

[Ria]

You only saw her ass walk away. It was like, whoa, what model is that? Didn't see your face, but caught her walk walking.

[Fran]

The cameraman was like, I walking back.

[Ria]

That was the moment of the outfit. But then she had another look as well and walked out, which I was like, whoa. But that's why it was, like, it was kind of fun. At the same time, not really seeing it being advertised, because I really didn't see a lot of the names that were gonna be in it. So I was like, whoa. Amelia Grant. Good for you, girl. Like, here she goes walking down the aisle.

[Fran]

You know, there were a lot of random.

[Ria]

Like, some of them I did like. Like, Angel Reese was a name that I had seen. So I was like, oh, that's very cool.

[Fran]

She crushed great.

[Ria]

She looked amazing. But then there were some that I didn't see. Like. Like Suni Lee, I did not know. And when she came out during the pig day, I was like, ah, Sunny Lee.

[Fran]

Like, I know how exciting. Josh Richards girlfriend Gabby.

[Ria]

Gabby was so good.

[Fran]

Incredible.

[Ria]

Gabby was so good. I watched. I saw that clip came on my for you page of. I guess Josh was streaming and watching. And when she. When he. Like, it was a cute clip of when he saw her. And then, like, every time, it would flip to the other girl. He's like, oh, not her. Not her.

[Fran]

Oh.

[Ria]

Which. And then I saw in the comments, I actually think it was Brie that commented back at somebody.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Ria]

She had posted, like, a video also watching Gabby, and someone was like, why is Josh not there? And Brie commented back like, oh, they did. They didn't give him a ticket. Which I just, like, that was kind of insane.

[Fran]

That feels insane when you see all these other influencers being invited and. Yeah, you invited influencer.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Fran]

No connection to the show. But you can't give.

[Ria]

Wait, I'm sorry. They couldn't give Josh Richards a ticket to see his girlfriend walk the Victoria's Secret Fashion show?

[Fran]

Feels wild. Wild. Like, really wild.

[Ria]

Feels like not. I don't know. That feels like something's up.

[Fran]

I don't know.

[Ria]

It's.

[Fran]

If that's the case. That's insane.

[Ria]

That's insane. There was wildly rude.

[Fran]

So there were so many influencers that were invited. It's like, all right, we'll just invite one last.

[Ria]

Yeah. It's like, I think priority should be the model. Each model should get one plus one.

[Fran]

Right.

[Ria]

Like, they should be able to bring somebody to maybe bring. Maybe she had family or something.

[Fran]

I don't know. Family member, and she wanted to.

[Ria]

Yeah. Either way, that.

[Noah]

Yeah. You can't bring Marty to the live show next week.

[Ad]

Yeah.

[Ria]

Yeah. No tickets available.

[Fran]

Sorry.

[Ria]

No, that's. I. I, like, saw. That was like, oh, my God, that's. That's so wild. I do always love my favorite Victoria's Secret fashion. Joe plus one is always Dylan Sprouse.

[Fran]

Yep.

[Ria]

Supportive, supportive husband. I love seeing that clip of him hang. Handing out those. Handing out endometriosis pins.

[Fran]

I need one.

[Ria]

You do. And did you see his interview, like, talking about it? He's just.

[Fran]

What.

[Ria]

What a good guy.

[Fran]

Yeah, that was.

[Ria]

That was really sweet. And he was like, she's just. That says that he just has the nicest things to say about his wife, which obviously he should. But, like, so good. It was very sweet.

[Noah]

I saw they asked him, like, where would Zack and Cody be now? And he's like, probably used car salesman or something.

[Ria]

He's like, I don't fudge know, bro.

[Fran]

Like, I know. That's the funniest question people ask. Act actress. Where do you think your character would be, like, 20 years from now? Like, let me make up the most random thing I possibly could.

[Ria]

Yeah, it's so. It's cute to see the supportive husband. Patrick Schwarzenegger was there, too. His wife Abby was walking. What was I gonna say? We. When we were in Singapore, our tour guide was like, there's big shows this weekend. Twice is here. And we were like, who? We were unfamiliar, but there they were.

[Fran]

They were there.

[Ria]

They were there.

[Fran]

Performing the Victoria's Secret.

[Ria]

They were there. Victoria's Secret fashion show. And then obviously Missy Elliott closed the show, which was iconic as always.

[Fran]

We didn't talk about Missy Elliott. Get your freak on getting the number one spot.

[Ria]

Yeah. I immediately thought that when she started.

[Fran]

Playing that song, it's like she won it for Rolling stone, the number one song.

[Ria]

Rolling Stone put out a list of the 50. 50. 100, 250. I thought 250. It was a lot of songs. Best songs of this generation. Oh, 21st century generation. What am I talking about? 21st century. And we were at dinner one night. We were trying to guess what the song could possibly be.

[Fran]

Get your free, get your freedom. And let me tell you, we had all close, I think, guesses. Yeah, but. But did not. Now. I don't know.

[Noah]

I think great song, but I don't think that's one.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Fran]

In their eyes and get your freak out.

[Ria]

That's their best.

[Noah]

Questionable.

[Ria]

Yeah. I mean, obviously, like, it's that we joked that it would be like if we joke that it would be like if the three of us put together a best song list. We all said. And we all said, like, we each get X amount of the list and then we'll organize it.

[Fran]

Mm.

[Ria]

It would be a very eclectic list.

[Fran]

As well if we did 150 songs. And we did 50 each. Yeah, but you just did yours, and.

[Ria]

Then you had to, like, rank them all in between.

[Noah]

But. But I guess, like, that's the question. Like, what are they basing this off of? Is it like popularity?

[Fran]

Is it like just any of these lists is just. I think if we were gonna make one, it would be what we like our. Our personal 50 songs and throw it into one list.

[Noah]

It's impossible. I mean, music, even making the 30, it's like. Yeah.

[Ria]

It's one of those things that I just think is quite literally impossible to rank unless you're very like. Unless you're literally going by, here's a list of success based on, like, streams or money made or whatever. Like, that's like a number you can go by a lot of stuff. When you just say best, it's like, okay, well, that's what you think is best.

[Fran]

Yeah. I have a different list of best Rolling stone things. Get your freak on is the best.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Fran]

Which I. Not. Not my personal best, but yeah. I think that's hilarious.

[Noah]

What?

[Fran]

Yeah. Missy Elliott opens up the article. She's like, what? Number one.

[Ria]

My God. Also, do you know somebody who was at the Victoria's Secret fashion show last night who should have been walking in the Victoria's Secret?

[Fran]

Sierra Miller.

[Ria]

Sierra Miller.

[Fran]

Holy. I had this same exact shit. Wow. Yes.

[Ria]

I mean, that outfit was.

[Fran]

Why wasn't she. She was modeled for them. Why wasn't she up there?

[Ria]

Put her in the fucking show.

[Fran]

Put her in the. She needs wings. Put her on that Runway by that outfit.

[Ria]

She looked insane.

[Fran]

Insane. Give her the wings right now.

[Ria]

Right now. The fact that she better be in.

[Fran]

The show, the fact she wasn't walking, I was stunned. I know.

[Ria]

I was blown. Like, I. When I saw those carpet looks, I went.

[Fran]

I'm like, I. Like, I've. Chills.

[Ria]

I know. I've never, like, seen someone look better in my entire life. It was like, this is the hottest person I've ever seen.

[Fran]

It's insane. Insane.

[Ria]

She's so hot.

[Fran]

So hot.

[Ria]

Oh, my God, Sierra, you look fucking amazing.

[Fran]

So good.

[Ria]

Yeah, I was. I literally was like, just start walking on the. Like, just get up there.

[Fran]

No one would be upset.

[Ria]

Just get up.

[Fran]

Everyone would be happy.

[Ria]

And she'd fit right in.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Ria]

Like, it was.

[Fran]

Oh, my God.

[Ria]

It was so good.

[Fran]

So good. Really?

[Ria]

I was thinking about it all night.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Ria]

Like, I kept thinking about the. Because I kept seeing it pop up, too, and I was like, this is actually insane.

[Fran]

She looks unbelievable. It's insane that she wasn't on there.

[Ria]

Yeah. I. I. And I hope she. Maybe she turned some heads from the. From the Victoria's Secret folk that were there who were like, you know what?

[Fran]

We need her.

[Ria]

She needs to be.

[Fran]

She's open the show next year.

[Ria]

She needs to be on this Runway.

[Fran]

Holy. It was better than last year, though, certainly. And I think we could progress. Yeah. And we could wrap up the talk about it with that. And maybe one day the fantasy bra will come back if they can make money again.

[Ria]

Yeah, you're right. Yeah. Yeah, we'll see. Some of those wings look heavy.

[Fran]

Yeah. Bella Hadid's was 60 pounds. She looks like she was gonna pass out.

[Ria]

She kept grabbing him. Like, I was like, is she gonna go down?

[Fran]

No, she didn't look. She looked, first of all, stunning.

[Alex]

Well, she did.

[Ria]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Fran]

But she did not look well walking.

[Ria]

Second walk with the giant wings. When she was walking back and she, like, she was holding on to them, I was like. And she looked like she was walking, like she wasn't doing A normal. Her normal walk. I was like, she is gonna fall over.

[Fran]

No, she wasn't strutting like she used.

[Ria]

Yeah, yeah. I mean that. It's like 60. How much does she weigh right now?

[Fran]

You know, right.

[Ria]

Like you look at. I'm like, that's.

[Fran]

It's taking her down. Yeah, taking her down for sure. But everyone looks stunning and it's a step up.

[Ria]

Yeah, yeah, definitely. Definitely.

[Fran]

All right, let's get into the rest of the show. Another reminder. We're gonna be having a little Truly meet and greet in D.C. october 22, the night before the show, and we want to see you there. I have a peach parade from the Truly celebration pack right in my hand and you guys got to get your hands on them too. Truly Hard Seltzer is all about fun, light, refreshing variety in a bubbly, ever resting style to get you and your people in a lively party mood. Made with flavor. All drinks are packed with fun, exciting flavors. It's made light and bubbly, so it's easy for drinking and it's refreshing. Only about 1 grams of sugar and 100 calories. So it's great for day drinking all through the night. Whatever you wish. And Truly has a new celebration pack, like I mentioned, like the one in my hand, the Peach. And it's a limited time variety pack made to celebrate this fall. There's four juicy flavors like Peach, Party, Citrus, Spark, Trisecco Style, and Style. Grab Truly Hard Seltzer at your favorite store or bar or visit www.trulyhardsaltzer.com and use the Truly finder to find it near you. All right, everyone, we are here with two very special guests. We are joined by Andrew and Alex, winners, some might say of Bachelor in Paradise. Thank you so much for joining us. Super excited to have you both here. Andrew has been a guest at one of our live shows, Super Fun in Detroit, but you've never been on the show. And Alex, you've never been on the show either. So welcome having us.

[Andrew]

Yeah, thanks for having us.

[Ria]

I know we're pumped. I was saying, like, we've seen Andrew a lot. Like, you know, social settings, all those things. You always have a ton of fun.

[Andrew]

And always running into each other.

[Ria]

Shockingly, never been on an actual episode, so here we are.

[Andrew]

No. And I'm also like a big follower of you guys. I think like your trending topics just come up at the perfect time and I feel like you're the most shown. Like, you know when you can click most shown on feed. Yeah, it's like cheeks me up.

[Ria]

You Know that's how you're saying update.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Andrew]

I'm like, yeah. And then, like, obviously, like, the summer I turned pretty. You guys post a lot about that. And, like, I had just got done watching it, too. So true. It's like, perfect timing.

[Alex]

Yeah.

[Ria]

I feel like I had a bone to pick with you about that.

[Fran]

Oh, yeah, you were teenager mine. Yeah, we'll get into that. We discuss all that. And I do want to say we.

[Ria]

Won'T start out that hot.

[Andrew]

Right.

[Fran]

We'll get into all your movie takes after.

[Andrew]

Oh, okay.

[Fran]

Because I know you have a ton of them. But I will say I was.

[Ria]

Yes.

[Fran]

Yeah. Yes. I was a big Andrew fan for a while before we ever met, but it was like a don't meet your hero situation. You know what I mean? Like, I was like, I know. Like, you. No, you turned out to be.

[Andrew]

Oh, okay.

[Alex]

Okay.

[Fran]

Perfect.

[Noah]

Oh, my God.

[Ria]

People that are on radio.

[Fran]

I Remember sending your TikToks, your videos to, like, our, like, bachelor group chat. I'd be like, God, like, it's so funny. We do have a great bachelor. And I was just like, you know what? Like, never, you know, that's why you've never been on the show. I was like, don't want to, you.

[Andrew]

Know, don't want to limit it.

[Fran]

Yeah, exactly. But, you know, you have lived up to the hype as well as Alex, and we're so excited to have you guys here, and we want to hear, you know, as they call it, about the journey of Bachelor in paradise for you guys.

[Ria]

Yeah. I want to start, Andrew, because I think when I first saw that you were going back on the show, I was like, come on. Yeah, this is gonna be bad. I was like, oh, my goodness. I said, he's coming. He's coming back again. It made me. It made me excited to watch. But I also like that you didn't. It wasn't from right away, from the beginning, which I think was good. But why were you like, you know what? I'll do it again.

[Andrew]

It was, like, perfect timing.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Andrew]

Like, it was at that time where I had nothing going on. I was not talking to anyone, like, romantically. So it was just like, all right, well, yeah, let's take this interview call and let's do it. Let's see. It's probably the last time I'll ever be able to get a chance to go on the Bachelor, so. And they were like, oh, we got some new fun things going on. I was like, oh, okay, we got a new production. I was like, oh, okay. So I was like, let me just go be a part of this. And, you know, whatever happens, happens. I did not think that I would actually find something this time. And I guess, like, that's when it usually happens.

[Ria]

Yeah. Yeah. Alex, why did you want to do Paradise?

[Alex]

Just because, knowing my personality, I went on the Bachelor, and I was like, it's very serious. And not saying that we're not serious, but it just fit my personality. And when they offered it, I was like, oh, totally. Let's have fun. And I also didn't expect I was gonna meet anybody.

[Ria]

But I think it, like, worked out so well, though, because from seeing you on it and then, like, watching, you know, you like seeing more of your personality. Yes.

[Alex]

Yes.

[Ria]

I think I had said it to you, too, that I was like. I think when Andrew gets in, I'm like, those two make a lot of sense.

[Alex]

A lot of sense.

[Ria]

And I'm sure everyone said that to the both of you.

[Alex]

Well, not really, because I think on the show, and which I think I am wholesome, but I think I came off very, like, no, but, like, you also thought I was gonna be a very, like, goody two shoes, right? And I felt like I had to, like, live up to that expectation. So I was. And then once we met, we were like, wait a second. We kind of are the same person.

[Ria]

Yeah, yeah.

[Andrew]

No, I think we. And it's not very. It wasn't shown very much, but I think we just were cracking up the whole entire time that it was just like, we can't even hear any discussions that you guys are having. Literally laughing.

[Alex]

It'd be like, what do you think about that guy? Like, I'd be like, what? What conversation happened?

[Ria]

Yeah, the editors were like, we can't even include no sense.

[Fran]

You guys aren't in on the inside joke. No.

[Ad]

At all.

[Andrew]

And I think that was just important for us to just, like. I think we were just. We took it extremely slow to the point where you're just like, let's hang out and let's just, like, get to know each other. And then after that, we just, like, wanted to see each other all the time and hang out with each other all the time. So.

[Alex]

Well, I will say for me, I've always said from the beginning, I want to be dating my best friend, that I also want to fuck. So I also think that's what happened. You were like, my best friend. Then I was like, wait a second.

[Ria]

Yes, Very important.

[Fran]

Very important.

[Ria]

She just, you know, just wants a best friend. She thinks he's hot. That's a PG version of that.

[Alex]

Sorry.

[Andrew]

Not wholesome.

[Alex]

That's okay on this show.

[Ria]

Absolutely. And that's truthful, by the way. That's.

[Fran]

Yes, that is what you want.

[Andrew]

I think that's probably my best. Her best trait is, like, as crazy it might be, her honesty is, like, a little bit too honest to the point where she'll just, like, blurt out anything and everything.

[Alex]

They're very impulsive. Yeah.

[Andrew]

Yeah. And like, she was like, this morning. I stayed at Greg's last night. Cause we just got in and we're getting a hotel later today. She comes in. She's like. She's like, see, See, baby, this is my dream. Like, the balcony, the whole city. Like, I just want to, like, like doggy right from back, like, right here. And Greg is. Greg is right there. I'm just like, I'm sorry, dude.

[Fran]

I don't think doggy is.

[Ria]

Back shots.

[Alex]

Back shots.

[Fran]

I'm sure he's. Greg has heard it all.

[Andrew]

I was like, dude, I'm sorry.

[Ria]

I was like, Greg's like, mouth. My mouth. Leave.

[Fran]

I guess literally, it's like.

[Andrew]

It's like, you were so early, like, oh, my. She took the red eye. She just got in.

[Fran]

So I'm just like, you.

[Andrew]

She's tired.

[Fran]

Go get us bagels.

[Alex]

Yeah, we'll come back.

[Ria]

I'll get us a dozen.

[Fran]

We'll come back.

[Ria]

You know what?

[Fran]

You guys will be well fed after.

[Ria]

There is. There's some sort of skit in there for Greg to come.

[Andrew]

We've had a ton of skits like this.

[Alex]

And, like, that's so fun to me, like, because I am a theater kid at heart, and I feel like hanging out with them. They come up with the craziest concepts. I'm like, I'm down. Like, this is so fun.

[Andrew]

So I can't even tell you how many, like, skits we had never released.

[Fran]

You guys have to, like. It's just. I sound like a fanboy. I'm like, you gotta release the skits.

[Andrew]

It's just like, sometimes it's all timing. We'll just, like, we'll film it and then we'll just, like. We'll just keep it just in case. And it's like. Like, there's sometimes, like, I posted one that happened, like, maybe a year or two before, and everyone's like, oh, this is so good. I'm like, oh, see, I told you it was, like, the right time. Yeah.

[Fran]

This one.

[Ria]

The draft for years.

[Noah]

Yeah.

[Fran]

I don't know if you have this where you think something is really Funny. But you don't know if other people are gonna think it's funny. It's funny between you two.

[Andrew]

Yes.

[Fran]

But you're like, what if nobody finds it funny? That happens to me and my husband a lot. Where I'm like, we could keep this one to ourselves.

[Andrew]

Like, Greg's biggest talent is he's so good at knowing the audience and crowd and like, when would it be good? And I feel like I kind of like, took a little bit from that and I'm just like, okay, you can just kind of read the vibe of people, gauge. We'll see what they're. What they're. What they're feeling. And then that's when you post. But yeah, it's also like, she's starting to learn it now.

[Alex]

No, I know, because every time I'm like, I'm like, I showed him like this tick tock. And I was like, this is my best piece ever. And he goes, not a really, Not a real, like, not really big fan. And then I posted and it flopped.

[Andrew]

And I was like, I didn't say it wasn't a big fan.

[Fran]

I just said, she is important.

[Alex]

I was just like, I'm not a big. No, you said I'm not a big fan.

[Andrew]

No, I just said right now. I said, let's. Let's sit on it, you know?

[Alex]

And I'm so like, yes, let's push it in.

[Fran]

That's the way to go about it.

[Ria]

You're like this. Send that to the editor.

[Fran]

I see your vision.

[Ria]

I see the vision, but execution, not quite.

[Fran]

That is so funny.

[Ria]

That is so funny.

[Fran]

Now, when did you guys film Bachelor in Paradise? I always get confused with the filming of that show.

[Alex]

All of May.

[Fran]

Okay, so in May. So you guys come back and then it's summertime. Yeah, that's like the worst.

[Andrew]

That was the worst part because, like, you lose your whole summer. Yeah, because we're not allowed to. And even if you came back single, you weren't allowed to do really anything because you would be spoiling the season.

[Fran]

Yeah, right?

[Alex]

Yeah.

[Andrew]

So it's like, it's just sitting around. Like she was like, I don't know if I could do this. Like, we're just. We're sitting around. We're just figuring out ways.

[Alex]

Not us. Just like, I don't know if I.

[Andrew]

Can just like the whole, like, waiting around.

[Alex]

Let's just go out. Who cares?

[Ria]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Andrew]

But I was just like, it's, you know, let's just wait and see how, like, like how people are taking. I don't want to ruin this. Like, we, like, we. We had a really magical people.

[Alex]

Didn't expect. I think that we were gonna, you know, so we didn't want to speak.

[Fran]

Out with, like, disguises and stuff.

[Andrew]

Yeah, yeah. Yes. Yeah, we did.

[Alex]

Loved it.

[Fran]

Did anybody recognize you guys?

[Andrew]

One person, I think.

[Alex]

Yeah. And we're like, yeah, down low.

[Andrew]

Yeah.

[Alex]

But no one.

[Andrew]

They're, like, staring at me.

[Alex]

You said you walked next to some, like, a really good friend, and they looked at you and they were like, no, that's not. Yeah, like, right in front of you.

[Andrew]

And then also, it's tough when you're, like, with, like, like, clay.

[Ria]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Andrew]

And then we were with Joe. Grocery store Joe, too. So it was.

[Ria]

Yeah. If you're with other people.

[Andrew]

Yeah.

[Ria]

Yeah. I feel like that's kind of why some of the. I felt like that was why some of the other people that was. Were on the season were, like, jetting. They were, like, going off to Europe. Like, I know. They're like, we're going to Portugal. It's like, we just live our life there. Nobody gives a shit.

[Fran]

Over the.

[Andrew]

See, I would have done that, but Greg happened in.

[Alex]

Oh, in Italy.

[Andrew]

In Italy. So I was like, oh, no.

[Fran]

Oh, my God. That was a scandal. It was.

[Andrew]

Wow.

[Fran]

They got tattoos.

[Ria]

I got a little shiver down my.

[Fran]

Spine thinking about that.

[Ria]

What a time.

[Fran]

That.

[Andrew]

That was a crazy time.

[Fran]

That was good. So exciting. So excited. They went to Italy and got challenged. Crazy wild.

[Alex]

That is really.

[Andrew]

He's so cool for that, though. Not many people can pull that shit off. And I'm just like, you got to hand it to him sometimes.

[Ria]

Yeah, no, that's. That's so true. Yeah. That's got to be hard. It's like, you don't want. And because people do love spoiling, they do this show specifically corny to me.

[Alex]

Also, like, my friend followed guys, like, or followed you. I mean, like, the day after, and then they figured it out until.

[Ria]

Right, right, right. You can't even, like, follow, like, the reality Steve dude. Yeah. Yeah.

[Andrew]

I think it. I think it's so weird.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Andrew]

I mean, like, you're, what, like, 50, and you're, like, talking about reality TV and trying to spoil every season. That's just my.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Andrew]

I just think it's weird. I mean. I mean, I get it. I get it.

[Alex]

I mean, he spoils it.

[Andrew]

I just don't like the spoiling part.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Alex]

Someone telling, like, Santa Claus.

[Ria]

You heard this story of. Of Rhea thinking, do we have to.

[Fran]

Go down this road?

[Andrew]

No, no, we got To.

[Alex]

We got to.

[Ria]

We have to. Rhea thought she got the biggest spoiler of all time for Zach's season.

[Fran]

I'll tell the story.

[Ria]

Yes.

[Fran]

This. This. And listen, this girl probably despises me now because the amount of times I've told the story.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Alex]

And she.

[Ria]

She hates real.

[Fran]

She definitely doesn't listen, and she hates my guts. Well, anyways, this lovely listener of ours at the time. No. Not sure if she's still a listener. Dm me being like, I have this crazy spoiler about Zach's season. Like, da, da. Like, I know for a fact. Da, da, da, da. So I'm like, I've never been a spoiler person. Like, I'm not a spoiler.

[Ria]

I don't look at spoiler Zach. It was, like, kind of a boring.

[Fran]

Yeah. So I was like.

[Ria]

So, like, it was. We thought. We were like, oh, my God, this is Right.

[Fran]

So I was like, oh, this is. This is going to get crazy. Because they kept. You know, they always tease something never seen before. Something never seen before. And with Zach season, I'm like.

[Alex]

Like, I miss it all.

[Fran]

Pretty standard, so give it to me. And I'm not a spoiler person. You know the people who like, oh, I read the last page of the book, and then I go to the beginning. It's like, no, no, I do not do that. People do that.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Andrew]

That's bizarre.

[Fran]

They read the last page of the book and then go to the first.

[Alex]

See, that would be weird.

[Fran]

I can't do that. No, no, no. So not. Not me, but this girl, she ropes me in, and she tells me that Zach, like, leaves the show to be with Jess, who he sent home. You know Jess?

[Alex]

Yes.

[Fran]

Who he sent home weekend prior, and that they're living together and a whole thing. And I'm like, what the. That's a crazy spoiler. So I'm like, oh, my God, that's insane. And now I'm, like, hyping this up on our show. I'm like, guys, I got told this spoiler. I'm not sure how true it is.

[Ria]

We're like, no one has this.

[Fran]

No one has, like, reality Steve.

[Andrew]

Where's this coming from?

[Ria]

Reality Steve's gonna be falling off his chair.

[Andrew]

Where are the sources from?

[Fran]

I got this big story, and so I did, like, a big reveal on Instagram. I was like, you know, if you want to know this spoiler, like, spoiler alert. A whole thing, and obviously it turned out to not be true.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Fran]

And reality Steve was like, this is. You know, if you're gonna get into the spoiler game. You gotta check your sources.

[Andrew]

Come on, Come on.

[Ria]

And I was like, basically, he's like, this is why you don't listen to people not in the game.

[Fran]

He was like, you're listening. Like, she's not in the game. Da, da, da. And, like, I had to dress up like a clown. It was a who. Oh.

[Ria]

It was like.

[Fran]

Well, because that's when we were doing.

[Ria]

Cutting stems. So, like, our. We did all that.

[Fran]

Got very mad at me because I never said her name or anything. I was just like, this girl told me this story. That's fine. It's the whole thing. And she messaged me, by the way.

[Ria]

The girl was legitimate.

[Fran]

Yeah. She was like, I really believed it. And I trusted you. And I was like, nobody knows your name. I never told your name.

[Ria]

It's the whole thing.

[Fran]

I said I was going to say it out loud, and she was so mad at me, and. Yeah, that's it.

[Andrew]

She trusted you.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Fran]

Hey, I just.

[Andrew]

I got a secret just for me and you.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Andrew]

Like, did she say that in the message? Don't. Don't tell anyone.

[Fran]

I was like, I'm gonna talk about it, like. And I, like, you know, I'm sorry.

[Andrew]

That happened to you.

[Fran]

I just wrote off spoilers one time, and now I'm out. I'm out.

[Ria]

Especially after, like, Zach and Katie came in here after, too, and they were, like, so in love. And we were like, sorry, guys.

[Fran]

Yeah, it was so awesome.

[Alex]

Oh, my God.

[Fran]

Like, damn.

[Ria]

We thought. We, like, kind of thought you. You guys broke up and you were.

[Fran]

Living in just, like, Tampa, like, I don't know.

[Ria]

And they were like, no, like, we're solid.

[Fran]

Like, the most rock songs where, like, they really. The couple really works out. I'm so not proud of myself for it. I know. It haunts me to this day.

[Alex]

I think the clown is a good.

[Fran]

You know, that's a good.

[Andrew]

That's a good, like, shame.

[Ria]

No.

[Andrew]

I would forget about it right after that.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Alex]

I didn't even know about it exactly.

[Ria]

It was funny. So what did you guys think about the whole switch up for the. For the season? Because not only was it a new location, you're in a hotel, you got air conditioning, and money was involved. At what point did you guys find out that money was actually gonna be part of it? Were there rumblings of potential money?

[Andrew]

I had no idea of the rumblings. I knew that it was gonna be a new location, and I was like, well, let me try this, because I was at the other one, and Then, like, I heard they were gonna be doing, like, activities and stuff, and I was like. Because the first one, everyone's like, oh, I love the original one. So boring.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Andrew]

Like, you don't sit around all day. Around all day.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Alex]

And I tried to, like, watch your season to, like, get not to kind of understand what paradise was. And I was like, falling asleep. Yeah.

[Ria]

So boring to just sit around.

[Andrew]

Everything that was crazy that happened in those seasons were producer driven.

[Fran]

Right.

[Andrew]

So, like, this one is like, you're playing a game. There's emotions. It's like everything is starting to get heightened a little bit now. You have money in it. So now people are starting obviously go a little crazy because of the money. So, like, you're getting different emotions out of it. So that's why, like, I felt it was like, a little bit unproduced because of that situation. Like, you were getting, like, raw feelings. Like, I think once the game started, like, we started really connecting with each other because we were having so much fun with it and having, like, good banter to go off of it.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Andrew]

We're looking back on things that we did. We're like, that was so funny and, like, we're laughing about it.

[Alex]

Yeah. And it also, like, served as, like, not a reflection of, like, you know, outside struggles. Like, you kind of, like, you lose. How do you deal with deception or losses and stuff like that versus, I think, like your old paradise? Like, you get to talk and there's just so much you're just talking versus here. Oh, okay. You're a sore loser. Okay.

[Ad]

Yeah.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Alex]

Great.

[Ria]

Great. You know, and that's also like the original paradise. It's like the only time you ever got to leave or do anything was, like, if you got a date.

[Andrew]

Yes.

[Ria]

Which was so rare.

[Andrew]

So rare.

[Ria]

It's kind of cool because it's like every whatever challenge you guys did was kind of like a mini date.

[Andrew]

Yes. Like, but then also you could win an extra date.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Andrew]

So it's like, you can prolong time. And then also we got the. We got to sleep with each other, like, like in the same room. So, like, that was a huge bonus.

[Alex]

I mean, my grandma hears this.

[Fran]

No, not like, back shot.

[Alex]

No, that's what I'm saying.

[Andrew]

No, I wasn't. I wasn't even talking. I'm talking about sleep, like, literally, like.

[Fran]

Next to each other. Grandma's been talking about God. You know what I mean?

[Andrew]

She's going crazy. Like. No, no, just in general. But, like, I think sleeping next to someone is a massive feeling that you Gain. Especially if you're gonna propose to someone.

[Ria]

It's a little Love island desk. They're like, put you into bed together.

[Andrew]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. And that was really nice. So then, like, we just wake up in the morning together rather than, like, we're, like, on two different aisles, like, in bunk beds.

[Ria]

Right, right, right, right.

[Andrew]

In no air conditioning with, like.

[Fran]

Yeah. It's so important to know how somebody sleeps.

[Andrew]

Yes, absolutely. Absolutely. She's a wild sleeper.

[Fran]

But me, yeah, when I woke up, it's her. Oh, my God.

[Ria]

Are you a night terror?

[Andrew]

Oh, yes.

[Noah]

No, no, no.

[Andrew]

You have crazy. No, you woke up. No, no.

[Alex]

But it's because I was like, no, no. I was thinking about something in my head, and then you were having a nightmare.

[Andrew]

I was having a nightmare. That's right.

[Alex]

Yeah. And then the second that you're gonna get sucked up by the tornado, I woke up and I was like, it's her.

[Fran]

And I was like, who?

[Ria]

Yeah, that's like, when you wake up and you look at each other and you're like, where are we? Are we good?

[Andrew]

I think we took a melatonin that we did.

[Fran]

Yeah, that'll do it.

[Ria]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, that'll do it. That'll do it. But no, I actually feel like this season, because at first, I think people were skeptical, I included on, like, is this going to be conducive to, like, people finding each other? They threw the goldens in there. It was like, what's going to happen?

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Ria]

And then it sort of seemed like it worked out pretty well. I remember, like, we were talking about it towards the end, and I so confidently. Because past seasons, it's like, everyone leaves Bachelor in Paradise, and like, two weeks later, they're. They're broken up.

[Alex]

Oh, really?

[Ria]

So I'm, like, talking out of my. I'm, like, talking out of my ass because I have no idea how anything ends. And it's like two episodes before the final, and I'm like, yeah, I haven't watched him yet. I mean, I doubt anybody has asked.

[Fran]

Who even knows if anyone.

[Ria]

I watched the episodes, and then it ended, and I came back in and I was like, there's, like, four couples together, strong couples, and they're pretty locked in. So did you feel like it was a good way to connect?

[Andrew]

Oh, my God. I think that was the best version of paradise, like, for finding someone or just in general in Bachelor. To find someone because you had, obviously no distractions, you had time, you had activities, and obviously you get to sleep with them.

[Ria]

Like, yeah, yeah.

[Andrew]

Well, he could that too. So everyone's like, where was the boom boom room?

[Ria]

Yeah. Everywhere.

[Andrew]

No, seriously. So, like, everyone would, like, trade because we all had roommates. So our roommates would, like, switch with other people and be like, oh, I'll stay in their room tonight. And so it just like, worked out perfectly for everyone.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Andrew]

So everyone got a chance.

[Ria]

Your roommate.

[Andrew]

I was Spencer's roommate.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Alex]

And I was Bailey.

[Andrew]

Yeah.

[Ria]

Okay. So then it was. Then you gotta get Jeremy to swap and swap.

[Fran]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Andrew]

Dale will go to Cats.

[Ria]

Yeah, yeah.

[Fran]

Just a little.

[Ria]

A little cycle.

[Fran]

Yeah. How's it now hanging out with, you know, everybody who's been on the show before? Alex, you're being brought into, like, you know, a friend group that Andrew has had now with the show. What's that? Like, I see the tiktoks everyone's making.

[Ria]

Oh, it's fun.

[Alex]

No, it was definitely a conversation online. Being like, oh, no.

[Ria]

Like, Greg lost his.

[Alex]

His partner, but I feel like, oh.

[Fran]

No, it's gonna happen.

[Alex]

But to be honest, like, we have, like, even this morning, I was like, needed to get my makeup done. I was like. They were like, oh, you can go to the bathroom. And I was like, no, I want to hang out with you guys. I'll do it in the living room.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Alex]

Like, we fit in so well together. Like, it's been amazing. It does feel like a throuple. But like, I love it.

[Noah]

Yeah.

[Andrew]

I mean, I think. I think me and Greg's like, whole thing has always been to, like, have a relationship with our girls to be able. Like, we've never been on a double date.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Andrew]

Really. Like a lizard.

[Ria]

But I feel like you guys have swapped, like, being.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Ria]

Like, when Greg was in a relationship, I was single.

[Andrew]

Yeah.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Andrew]

It's every. In or there was a period where me, Justin and Greg were in a relationship, but we were just. Yeah, he was New York or Nashville and I was in Chicago.

[Ria]

Greg be the Bachelor, right?

[Andrew]

Yeah, I would. I would be.

[Alex]

People would tune in 100.

[Andrew]

Like, I don't.

[Noah]

I don't.

[Fran]

That I was, you know, sticking out for Greg since the beginning.

[Ria]

Yes.

[Andrew]

I don't. I don't. I don't understand the. The blackballing that happened, but I think he's probably passed it though.

[Ria]

Yeah.

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Yeah.

[Andrew]

He's like. He's like.

[Ria]

I'm sure he's like, doesn't need to revisit. I feel like he's done pretty well.

[Fran]

With that without the franchise. No.

[Ad]

People.

[Andrew]

People recognize him as the Tick Tock guy.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Andrew]

Oh, you're the tick tock guy.

[Alex]

That's the goal.

[Ria]

I do.

[Fran]

That's so true with Susie and Justin. You know, we saw a little bit happen on the show which was quite confusing. I think everyone was like, what the hell is happening here? It's very uncomfortable to watch. And now seeing everybody hang out again and people are like, oh, my God, how are they in the same room? How's everybody hanging out? What's that? You know, I'm not gonna ask you about their personal relationship because you're not them, but what's it like when you guys are just posting something like that and you see all the comments come in and are you just, like, ignoring it all and you.

[Andrew]

Yeah, you pretty much. You pretty much ignore it. I think for the first. For the. For the most part, me, Justin and Susie were all good friends before they even started dating.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Andrew]

So, like, they're. They're very amicable about, like.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Andrew]

Situations where they're at. And that's just kind of how all paradise is or Bachelor is. Is like, once you get around people, like, no one cares about, like, the. The stuff you got in the background. Like, it's just like that. That moment where you're at, it's just fun to hang out. It's very clicky because people are like, who.

[Fran]

How are they hanging out together? And they're like, yeah, you know what? They're making it work, you know?

[Andrew]

Yeah, yeah. No, I don't think they're two good people. And, you know, they're both down the half. Like, Susie is a riot.

[Alex]

So funny. Oh, my gosh.

[Fran]

Yeah, you're right, though. It is a little bit clicky.

[Andrew]

Yeah.

[Fran]

There's a clicks.

[Andrew]

There's a. There's a little. There's clicks. But, you know, it's tough to be friends with everyone in Bachelor Nation because it's almost like you don't know if it's a transactional thing. Like, for me, my friends, it's the same ones from that my season.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Andrew]

Cause I have a shared trauma with them.

[Ria]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Andrew]

And like. And also, like, they became my brothers. Like, they. They've been to, like, funerals of my families. They've been to family reunions. So, like, they don't even, like, look like friends. Like our Bachelor people.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Andrew]

Right now I talk to each and one of them every single day. Greg calls me every day, literally.

[Alex]

Sometimes he'll be like, facetime. He's like, I have to. I have to go. Greg's calling.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Andrew]

Okay.

[Alex]

We've worked on it. But, like, no.

[Fran]

That's real friendship though.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Andrew]

No, And I've always want to be that friend.

[Ria]

What does he have to say to.

[Alex]

You literally at night?

[Ria]

Like how he's sleeping?

[Andrew]

Nothing. Cuz it's 9am for him. It's 8am for me. Yes.

[Fran]

And someone just like the chat. Okay.

[Andrew]

He literally just goes, yo, bro, what you got going on today? It's 8am, I'm just waking up. He's just like a. That's crazy.

[Fran]

That's crazy. Yeah.

[Andrew]

He's like, that's really.

[Ria]

Is Greg like the kind of person that will call you five minutes before he walks in the door to like where the place he's going to?

[Andrew]

Yes, yes, absolutely. Craig is very communicative. So he will make sure that you know exactly what's going on even if you don't ask.

[Ria]

That's my husband is like that where I'm like, I'm like. He's on his way home from work. He calls me and I'm like, you on your way home? He's like, yeah, I know I did this. And like I got this going on.

[Fran]

Yeah, yeah. That's like I.

[Ria]

And he's like, I could tell you.

[Fran]

Don'T want to talk.

[Ria]

I'm like, I'm gonna see you in five minutes.

[Fran]

Minutes.

[Ria]

You're gonna walk in the door in five minutes.

[Andrew]

He's a location creeper.

[Ria]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Andrew]

What are you doing over here? Why are you watching me? Leave me alone, bro.

[Ria]

Yep. Yep. That is so funny.

[Fran]

But people have asked if me and Fran have our each other's location and we don't.

[Andrew]

That's crazy to me.

[Fran]

No, but Fran said that she can't and I'm not asking for it.

[Andrew]

I don't want her.

[Ria]

Weirdly, my like my friends were not location sharing group of girls. We really.

[Fran]

Yeah, I think like for I have safety reasons.

[Ria]

Me and Joe, like me and my husband have same.

[Fran]

But. But I think like for safety reasons obviously, like with your partner, like if you, you know, if you travel a lot, whatever. That's great for my friends. We'll share for like a specific amount of time.

[Ria]

Yes.

[Fran]

And then you know, like indefinitely, you know, not in depth. Yeah. There's a couple people I have that I don't even know if they know that.

[Andrew]

I do have that too.

[Ria]

But I. I will never say it's like secretly like. Yes.

[Fran]

No. Right. And like I didn't do that. And I'm like, I have had their location for two years. I don't think they know. And I'm not saying, but people are shocked. We don't. And I'm like, we're together all the time anyway. That, like, what if you, like, lost.

[Andrew]

Your phone and don't know where it's at? Like, your friend could track it. Like, I remember one time I had to track down.

[Alex]

Would they lose their phone?

[Fran]

You.

[Andrew]

No, he literally. He literally left it in Uber. He's like, hey, can you track this person down? I felt like I was secret, secret agency.

[Fran]

Like, that's just. That's.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Fran]

Yeah. I think the only person that has my location is my husband.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Andrew]

Oh, wow.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Ria]

You know, like, indefinitely. Like I said, we are with each other all the time. And it's also like, I'm somebody that is. Like, I'm not egregiously late, but I'm always, like, 10 minutes late. Like, okay. Like, everything.

[Fran]

She's late a lot.

[Ria]

And, like, you know, like, I'm just like, I don't need someone when I'm, like, rushing out the door and I'm like. Like, I just left, but I, like, didn't actually just leave. I don't need somebody being like, you haven't left yet. I can see it.

[Fran]

She asked me that. She goes, you do. I say no. No. Because also, you can just, like, all.

[Ria]

The time to my friends, too, which is why none of my friends have.

[Andrew]

You ever had when someone's on their way to your place and you're like, oh, how much time do I have? And you just click and be like, oh, I got, like, 20 minutes so I can, like, clean or whatever.

[Ria]

Yeah, yeah.

[Andrew]

Like, you have to understand, there's so much benefits.

[Ria]

There is.

[Fran]

I wouldn't complain about having her location. She doesn't want me to have it for this reason. I'm kidding. I never asked.

[Ria]

We have not. We have.

[Alex]

We've never been.

[Ria]

I've never been.

[Alex]

Like, how long have you guys been working together?

[Fran]

Eight years. Yeah. Eight years. That's crazy to not also work together all the time.

[Ria]

We know where we are at. Like, I know where you are. Like, we're texting.

[Fran]

Anyway.

[Ria]

I know where you are.

[Fran]

Yeah, exactly.

[Alex]

Years.

[Ad]

Wow.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Andrew]

When's the anniversary? Like, do you guys have a date?

[Ria]

I guess, like, technically it would be. What? Like, well, when we counted. When we start chicks in the office.

[Fran]

Or like, our chicks in the office was July 2017.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Fran]

Oh, wow.

[Alex]

Congrats. Holy.

[Fran]

Thanks.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Andrew]

Rager in the 10th anniversary or something.

[Fran]

We were thinking maybe for our thousandth episode, because we're. What are we up to?

[Ria]

Yeah, we're eight something.

[Noah]

This is 8.99.

[Fran]

Damn.

[Andrew]

We're 8.99.

[Fran]

I like 900.

[Andrew]

I kind of like 899.

[Alex]

Yeah, that's really.

[Fran]

It sounds like a. I kind of like that 899.

[Ria]

Like a Domino's deal.

[Andrew]

8.99, you know?

[Fran]

You know what I'm saying? Like, 8.99 is on a Friday, and then 900 on Monday starts the week. Yeah.

[Ria]

It's a clean start of the week.

[Alex]

I like.

[Ria]

I like an even number. Starts ocd.

[Fran]

Exactly.

[Ria]

Yeah. That's so funny. What did you guys think of the Goldens on the. On the show with you? Because I know, like, viewers were kind of like, this could be weird, but it seemed like everybody loved it.

[Andrew]

She loves the Golden.

[Alex]

Yeah, I love them. Keith and Kathy. I always. I told them we basically won because of you guys. The last challenge, we hadn't. You know, they told us we voted a certain way, and then it was in her favor. And if we hadn't won that one, I think we'd have been out.

[Fran]

So.

[Alex]

But besides that, besides the winning part, they give us a lot of not, like, wise advice, you know what I mean?

[Ria]

And they were like, I always correlate.

[Alex]

It to, oh, love him.

[Andrew]

You ever, like. I mean, when you were dating, growing up, like, you had to hang out in the kitchen with. That was always my favorite moments.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Fran]

I'll never forget my eighth grade boyfriend's parents.

[Andrew]

Yeah. Yeah, you just. Because it's such a warm feeling and obviously, like, I'm not gonna get too, like, I couldn't have that with my family and, like, to be around, like, someone's family, and they're all in there in the kitchen, and they're just all having a good time. I was like, this is, like, this is amazing.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Andrew]

So that's kind of what it felt like having the Goldens there. It was just like this, like, parental, like, warmth.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Andrew]

Why? Also them trying to be fun and young at the same time, and you're just, like, laughing, and you're like.

[Alex]

It also gave us so much confirmation, too. They would observe stuff and be like, Andrew's like, I can see in his eyes, like, he really cares about you. And you're like, oh, really? And you're like, oh, yeah.

[Ad]

Like, yeah.

[Ria]

They're like, believe me.

[Alex]

We can't just talk about the Goldens without you doing a Keith impression.

[Fran]

Is that bad?

[Andrew]

Oh, come on.

[Fran]

Please.

[Alex]

No. Do you guys remember his. His lap? Please, Please.

[Andrew]

I don't. I can't.

[Fran]

An impression on the spot, huh?

[Andrew]

Oh, My God. No. She literally made me do a Grinch impression in front of this little girl for the kid.

[Fran]

Come on.

[Andrew]

I was like, are you serious? So I'm like, but watch what I wear. Out of nowhere now you go, oh, my God.

[Alex]

That's the Grinch. Okay, go do it.

[Ria]

Come on. Come on. You've had some time to think about it now.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Andrew]

You know what? Alex will be. His tongue's always, like, halfway out.

[Ria]

It does sound like it does. But he's also, like, borderline on the verge of tears.

[Andrew]

Oh, my God. Every time. He's so emotional.

[Fran]

Pisces.

[Ria]

I watched the. The reunion, whatever you guys want. What podcast episode that you guys all did, which, by the way, I was like, just logistically, I was curious how everyone did that. Like, I was sitting on one couch.

[Fran]

This couch.

[Andrew]

This is literally how big the.

[Ria]

Really squished. Yeah, yeah. And like, dudes, three seconds into Keith talking, he was like, I'm gonna. I'm gonna get emotional. Yeah, it's like, I'm gonna get emotional. Here it comes. He started to tear up. He was so happy for everybody.

[Andrew]

Yeah, they had a great time. Like, that was the best part for them. It was a vacation. But I don't want to speak for them, but obviously, I remember my grandma, she would always complain about being lonelier and being around. For them to just have constant conversations with people, constant people being around and interacting with them, I think they love that more than any relationship they've ever met. Me and Keith played bags almost every day. That was a big thing that we.

[Ria]

Did, and I did stay around as long as they did. The Golden's really were on the chopping block. Once people started getting sent home, I.

[Andrew]

Was like, see, you Goldens, you guys made your money.

[Ria]

Was like, which Golden's getting sent home now? They all went one by one, one by one.

[Fran]

Do you ever get that way, though, with, like, you know, you're surrounded by the Goldens or, like, older people, where you are genuinely hanging out with them because you like their company, but at the same time, you don't want them to feel like you're just hanging out with them because you feel bad because they're old.

[Andrew]

Yes.

[Fran]

You're like, how. Like, how do I monitor my personality? Like, I do, like, with my grandpa. I'm like, no, I really enjoy spending time with him, but I don't want him to think I'm, like, making fun of him or like, you know.

[Ria]

Yes.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Andrew]

No, I think. I think he could tell on the beach. The guys that were just Like, I really want to talk to this person or people that were really interested in what they had to say. Like, and there's times where they're long winded and I'm just like, yeah, yeah, I'm gonna use the bathroom. And that's like, you're kind of key to just kind of, like, reset. Cause, like, they're trying to give you so much life advice at once.

[Fran]

You have to remind yourself, like, will be you one day.

[Andrew]

Gary, Gary, Gary. Gary loves to talk. That's a talker. That's a yapper right there. I can't do it.

[Ria]

I feel like there was a couple moments I remember, like, watching the two of you, like, at the bar, just being like, we just need, like, a second. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Andrew]

No, of course. But she. She can't help it. She. I would. It's funny because the challenges would start and then, like, whoever would have a conversation with Alex would sway her opinion.

[Ria]

Oh, yeah, like.

[Andrew]

Like that she's coming to me.

[Alex]

Cr.

[Andrew]

Like, I can't vote them out.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Ria]

I mean, that is a massive, like, having. And I felt like. I felt that way, like, every time Bailey would cry, like, over setting, like, the goals. I'm big same. I'd be like, this is my nightmare. I'd rather send home all of you before I send.

[Andrew]

Yeah, yeah, absolutely.

[Alex]

She had one of the toughest decision to make.

[Andrew]

I think she was the first decision too. Like, you're sending this. These people home.

[Fran]

I'm just like, yeah, well, you gotta go. It's a game.

[Ria]

Yeah, yeah. What do you guys think of. Of Sean's big, big moment there at the end? I think it was kind of out with a bang.

[Andrew]

It was kind of tasteless. But at the same time, like, I see he was trying to play the game.

[Fran]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Andrew]

I just think he took it too far because the game was over for him at that point.

[Alex]

Like, yeah, just move on. I think there's a way to address things, you know? And it just felt like. Yeah, like you said tackless and like, having tack. The opposite of tac.

[Fran]

Right.

[Ria]

I don't know what TAC is.

[Fran]

Like, she's. She's French.

[Ria]

Guys, I got you. Tact. Yeah.

[Fran]

No tactics, like, tactical.

[Ria]

No, no, no.

[Alex]

It's. Tack is, like, sharp and, like, Sarah's.

[Ria]

Gonna give us the Merriam Webster and.

[Alex]

T, A, C, K. No, tact.

[Ria]

T A, C, T. Sensitivity in dealing with others.

[Andrew]

That's my speech language pathologist right there.

[Alex]

He always said, I can't talk.

[Ria]

So tacit.

[Alex]

Yeah. There's just A way to go about it. I think we were just so shocked. Like, I couldn't. I was like, I can't. I've never.

[Fran]

Wow.

[Alex]

This is insane.

[Ria]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Alex]

And I think conversation could have been made privately first to. Especially for Dale.

[Ria]

Right?

[Andrew]

Yeah, he could. He was boys with Dale. He could have just been like, hey, Dale, man.

[Ria]

Like, yeah, right?

[Andrew]

And then Dale. It would have been up to Dale to make that decision.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Andrew]

Like, the whole world, Right?

[Ria]

Yep.

[Fran]

Yep. So this turned out to be a great experience for you guys.

[Andrew]

Yeah.

[Fran]

All in all, it was a great experience. We had a.

[Andrew]

We had ups and downs. Yeah.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Ria]

I feel like. Well, there you go. Like, we didn't see a lot of it. Like, I feel like with, like, even Wells, when I was watching the room, like, Wells was like, I. He was like, no offense, Jess and Spencer, but, like, I really loved watching your guys's, like, love story evolve. But I keep, you know, viewers, we were. See it as much.

[Andrew]

We were around everyone. We were like. We were the double dates. So we would just, like, tag on to people and just, like, bounce off of everyone and kind of have a good time. We never had, like, one on one. Like, all right, let's talk about what's troubling us.

[Alex]

Not the second cameras in my face, and it's like, action. Like, talk about your feelings. I'm like, yeah, I choke and I'm terrible.

[Ria]

Was it also. And I know, obviously, like, there was an engagement, but it did feel like there was much less of an emphasis on, like, a proposal.

[Fran]

Yeah. Part of the show.

[Ria]

I know, but I feel like, like, was it. Did you feel like it was a little bit less talked about?

[Andrew]

No, it was still.

[Ria]

No, it was.

[Andrew]

It was. It just was. There's a difference in how, like, we approached it, I think. And then also just like. Like, you could still get engaged. Like, when people came back, that was probably their chance to be like, hey, if you guys want to engage, like, come back and engage. That's just my.

[Ria]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. They'd be like, look, it's. Yeah, Neil's on speed dial. If you want.

[Andrew]

Like. Like, if. If Justin Spencer would have got sent home instead of Dale and Cat, they would have still gave him a chance.

[Ria]

To have a proposal.

[Andrew]

So I think it was always on the table. I just. That's just so tough to do.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Andrew]

It's like we don't even know each other. Like.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Alex]

Because we had to, like, date started from, you know, the start.

[Ria]

Well, at least watching it did kind of seem like not at the forefront like it. Because past paradise seasons, it's like, oh, you have four or five couples at the end.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Ria]

And it's like debating are they gonna propose? Are they not gonna like the whole end of the show?

[Fran]

This.

[Ria]

There are so many other elements that it was like, oh, oh, I forgot like a proposal could even be like a part of it. Like when Spencer proposed, I was like, oh, he's proposing.

[Alex]

Yeah. Well, that's one thing I didn't like, I think was like, because there was so much time and effort put on, you know, the gains and everything, I don't think we saw our story develop. And then at the end, I was like, oh. I said I love it. I was like, where is this coming from?

[Ria]

Right.

[Andrew]

You love this man. Same with Justin Spencer. Like no one's expecting to get engaged because we focused so much on the games and that was going on and all the drama that you didn't get to see them. They were pretty locked in.

[Ad]

Yeah.

[Alex]

Yeah, they were. From the beginning.

[Ria]

Any debate on running and taking the money and just saying, see ya.

[Andrew]

Well, I think she should have took it.

[Alex]

I know looking back at it, I'm.

[Andrew]

Like, I totally feel like if she takes it, I look so good.

[Alex]

He did say this. Like, I'm the next Bachelor.

[Andrew]

Well, I wouldn't be a part of.

[Ria]

The movie that I want to about talk. Talk to you about that. You gave such a great grade. It was the worst movie ever.

[Fran]

Wait, I enjoyed it.

[Andrew]

I thought it was so good. Yeah. Yes. I thought it was so freaking.

[Ria]

I have it in my head.

[Andrew]

So good.

[Ria]

Gave it a 6.8 out of 10 and I was like, I thought it was so good.

[Fran]

And I surely thought that friend would like it because she likes some movies that are questionable.

[Andrew]

I liked it because everything was the Bachelor.

[Fran]

Yes.

[Andrew]

I was like, oh my God, this is a documentary. That one with Marie cracking.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Alex]

I couldn't even watch it.

[Andrew]

Like, the acting, I was like, the beginning was cringey.

[Fran]

It was terrible. Yeah. But then midway, you're midway.

[Andrew]

Oh, I'm in. I was in.

[Fran]

I definitely was like, I was, I was like, hehehe. Like, I was like, oh my God.

[Ria]

Like, but that would have been.

[Fran]

And I was like, that was a good movie.

[Ria]

That would have been. The ideal situation is like, break up with me, take the money and I'll be waiting for you.

[Andrew]

But the thing is, the thing is, is like we didn't know. Like, because if like we didn't. We didn't get a chance to talk to each other. We didn't know It.

[Alex]

And I will say. I will say that in my head, this is what I thought. I thought that they were gonna be like, choose the money or love. And if I went with love, they were gonna be like, you know what? We are so amazed by your decision. Here's250,000. Anyway.

[Ria]

Yeah, right, right, right.

[Alex]

Okay. Well, going through my head, I was like, they're definitely gonna give me the full, like, the full amount.

[Fran]

Close.

[Ria]

And then you're also thinking, like, if I take this money, will he, like, will I be able to explain myself?

[Alex]

Yes. That's another thing. And I'm not the best.

[Ria]

Would he still be okay with dating me?

[Andrew]

I think he would have, yeah. And I feel like at the same time, you're still kind of, like, shot in a way. You're just like, at the end of the day, you don't want to be rejected or not chosen.

[Ria]

Like, standing in that room and if she didn't show up, I would have felt.

[Andrew]

I felt alone, and I would have watched her grab the money.

[Alex]

Yeah.

[Fran]

I didn't know you'd seen me as.

[Andrew]

Much as you were like, oh, this would have been. I'm just like, I'm so happy the way it went because that's exactly how I wanted it to go.

[Ria]

It's still a nice chunk of change.

[Andrew]

Yeah, it's still a nice.

[Alex]

I pay my student loans. That's all that matters.

[Andrew]

That's perfect. And, like, you know, we're happy and, like, everything's going exactly how we wanted it to go.

[Fran]

Well, that's fantastic. Then it turned out to be a great ending.

[Ria]

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[Fran]

We want to talk more about your movie and TV takes because, you know, Fran just mentioned the wrong parrot.

[Ria]

6.8 out of 10.

[Fran]

We're on the same page with that. Y know it's bad, but it was good.

[Andrew]

It was so bad. Like, so bad. So I love.

[Ria]

I just like, enjoyed our show. His. His. His abs annoyed me.

[Andrew]

I thought they were too perfect.

[Ria]

Too perfect.

[Andrew]

They were way too perfect.

[Fran]

Which is such a crazy take from Fran because usually I love a perfect body like this. Everything about this movie I read wrong about her because this is like her.

[Ria]

Type of film, textbook on paper. If you were to list out every single aspect of this movie, I'd be like, like 10 out of 10. Sign me up. I'm obsessed. Something about the execution of it just didn't. It just didn't work for me. I really couldn't. I was like, what is happening? That. I'm like, you're really.

[Fran]

I like, Miranda Cosgrove has this, like.

[Ria]

And that guy's not even an actor. Like, that guy's not an actor. Yeah.

[Fran]

And then what's his name was in it.

[Alex]

I was like, wait, what's going on here?

[Andrew]

Harry?

[Alex]

Josie. No.

[Ria]

Yes.

[Andrew]

Oh, he was.

[Fran]

Yes.

[Ria]

I didn't watch it, but I.

[Fran]

She's like a goody.

[Andrew]

That was Terry.

[Fran]

She's like a goody two shoes.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Alex]

But she does like to say I loved it.

[Fran]

Yes. That's my favorite part. Probably.

[Alex]

Fuck.

[Andrew]

No. I thought it was per. It felt like I was watching the Bachelor. That was like a reality TV movie.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Andrew]

Like, it felt like it was reality TV turned into a movie.

[Ria]

Yeah, yeah.

[Andrew]

Because it felt like she really was like, I don't know, like, if I could do this. But at the same time, like, I kind of want to just use this to go to Paris. You're like, oh, well, I know some people who are doing stuff like that. And then you watch like, like the antics that people are pulling. I'm like, oh, my God. Like when she fell into the hot tub. That was fucking funny.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Andrew]

Yeah, I thought that. Cuz, like, that's some.

[Fran]

That's. I was bought in.

[Andrew]

Yeah, I was bought in the producer aspect. Like, that's Literally what the producers are doing.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Andrew]

Like, that was like. I was like, oh, my God, I'm watching a documentary now.

[Fran]

Can we discuss the team Jeremiah thoughts? Because. Cause I wanna hear this. That stunned everybody because I feel like every time I see your takes on rom coms and everything, like, in agreement, this one. Not in agreement.

[Andrew]

I. Okay. First off, I just. I hate Jeremiah the least.

[Fran]

Okay.

[Andrew]

So that's really. That's how I always started. I hate him the least.

[Fran]

Okay.

[Ria]

Belly included.

[Andrew]

Belly included.

[Ria]

Yep.

[Andrew]

I think that Jeremiah, had he not done the. Which I hate that she did that in the book. Like, made him cheat. Like, I. So dumb. He had such a good arc going like, that he would have never done that to her. The Jeremiah I know from the seasons leading up, always protecting her.

[Ria]

He's not a cheater.

[Andrew]

Would always hang back with her.

[Noah]

Like.

[Ria]

Yeah. You know what I mean? That is true.

[Fran]

You know, somebody would be like, their dad.

[Andrew]

Yeah.

[Fran]

And that's what they were trying, I think, to come across here was like, one of them's gonna take after their dad a little bit. And Jeremiah, in this season specifically is taking after him.

[Andrew]

His dad blew my mind because he stayed with his mom and would watch movies with his mom. So he was more like his mom in my eyes. So, like, I just didn't get it. And then the Conrad. Conrad is the most icky human I've ever met in my life. He's the most toxic man. Like, I'm tired of, like, the. The shtick. Where were women? Like, the guys who just are broken and needs to be.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Andrew]

Who needs therapy?

[Ria]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Andrew]

I can't with those kind of guys.

[Ria]

Therapy.

[Ad]

And got back.

[Fran]

It didn't work.

[Alex]

Yes, it did.

[Andrew]

He told. He confessed his love on the night his brother was getting married.

[Ria]

Yeah. Yeah, I would have.

[Andrew]

I would have.

[Ria]

But you know what? Jeremiah shouldn't have got. He shouldn't have taken Belly back in the first place. That would. The two of them should have never started dating again in the first place. Watching it back again, watching the second season back again, I was like, it is actually appalling that they drove Conrad to college so that he could take that final exam. And he was so excited because he definitely passed they upstudy. And he's got to walk over and find them kissing on his car.

[Andrew]

Okay. But when they're sitting outside by the. By the vending machine.

[Ria]

Yeah, yeah.

[Andrew]

He tells like, hey, listen, if you want Belly, man, I'll drop out right now. You just gotta let me.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Andrew]

And Conrad did not do that, so.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Ria]

He didn't.

[Andrew]

Jeremiah always communicated. Conrad never communicated, ever. And that was the reason why. I'm telling you, I have a long list of why.

[Ria]

That's true. That's true. It is true.

[Fran]

You're putting up the best argument I've seen people try to make because, you know, we're Conrad defenders. We can defend Conrad all the time.

[Ria]

I do think he figured it out.

[Fran]

The reason that I was so team Conrad was because you can feel that. That Belly wanted Conrad. You know what I'm saying? It's like, why am I gonna fight for. You know?

[Ria]

Like, it's very clear.

[Fran]

Belly wants me with Conrad, so sheep should be with Conrad.

[Ria]

She's hallucinating on the dance floor. Like, after smoking a little, you know, imagine every scene with Conrad's going through.

[Andrew]

But that's on Belly then, too.

[Noah]

That's why.

[Ria]

No, I don't.

[Fran]

Belly has her flaws received a lot of criticism.

[Andrew]

My thing was when. Dang, I almost lost my train of thought when Jeremiah was. Damn. I lost my train of thought.

[Ria]

Wait, Alex, did you say you have not watched any of it?

[Alex]

So I'm like, watching this.

[Fran]

I'm like, oh, yeah.

[Alex]

Huh. Yeah, right.

[Ria]

That's just so funny. And you're like, man, he knows a lot about this.

[Andrew]

I watched it. I was in quarantine for. Not quarantine, but when you have to wait for paradise.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Andrew]

They had me in holding there. So, like, I was there for eight.

[Fran]

Days before you could go in. You're like, I could not. You got so locked into Team Jeremiah.

[Andrew]

I just watched and I watched, dissecting this, like, over and over. I'm like, this guy's. This guy's insane. Like, Jeremiah is a great guy. Like, what are we. What are we missing out here?

[Fran]

Yeah. So were you upset with the ending?

[Andrew]

Yeah. Yeah, I was.

[Alex]

Is this a spoiler? Does she end up with.

[Ria]

No, no. Yes.

[Fran]

Yes.

[Ria]

It's okay. She does.

[Fran]

She does.

[Andrew]

Now they're coming up with a movie. I honestly.

[Ria]

I watched the. I've watched the last episode, like, eight times.

[Alex]

Oh, you're like, the way Conrad talked.

[Andrew]

To, like, Steven and, like, the people around him.

[Noah]

Like, ew.

[Andrew]

You cannot tell me this guy's not a good. Like, this guy's a good guy. Like, I'm sorry. No, no, I think.

[Fran]

I don't think he's a bad guy. He, you know, took on a lot.

[Andrew]

With mom, but nobody told him to do that.

[Ria]

Yeah, but that's a. That's a. That's a. As a fellow oldest child, that's like, that's an inner oldest child. Like, personal trauma you put on yourself. Like, you. There's a lot of personal responsibility you put on yourself that you think, like, okay, I have to.

[Andrew]

He did strong Jeremiah for anything.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Ria]

No way. That was.

[Andrew]

And then when they knew she was sick, he stayed away. How does that make any sense? Like, he literally was like, oh, I'm gonna withhold this from you. Only I can know. He's so self absorbed and so I literally can't with this man.

[Fran]

I wonder if you've seen. I'm wondering if you've seen these tiktoks that remind me when you're like, only I can know this information.

[Andrew]

Yes.

[Fran]

Have you seen, like, when your friends. When your friends were going through. Through something at school and my friends are walking by, like, why are they crying?

[Ad]

Like, don't worry.

[Andrew]

It's just.

[Fran]

It's just me only I know. Don't. Don't bother them. Don't bother. Like, space. She needs space. When you're. When you're the only friend that knows.

[Andrew]

What you're going through, that's literally Conrad.

[Ria]

Like, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yep.

[Andrew]

I'm telling you guys, he, he, he.

[Fran]

Got everything the way that you said. Ew is so funny.

[Alex]

He says all the time.

[Ria]

I think his, you know, I think his mom put a lot of pressure on him too, to keep everybody together. And then he crumbled. Like, his mom was like, watching.

[Andrew]

I think his mom fell in love with him as well. I'm serious.

[Fran]

I'm serious.

[Andrew]

Show.

[Fran]

Are you guys watching?

[Ria]

You know, you know, you know, you.

[Andrew]

Know, they have favorites. We have no favorites.

[Fran]

And there are, you know, I feel like there's been a couple shows lately where the mom is, like, so obsessed with her son.

[Andrew]

You know, it's real life too. I've seen, like, I don't want to say, like. Like, I'm not gonna say their name because I like sports. I don't want to be involved. There's some moms.

[Ria]

Oh, yeah.

[Andrew]

There's some moms involved in their.

[Ria]

With their athlete sons.

[Andrew]

Come on.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Fran]

Come on.

[Andrew]

Yeah, we gotta. We gotta chill. And like, I love my mom to death. Like, and I get it. Like, they're our first love. Like, yep, I love my mom. Like, I just don't understand how they're just so, like, on top of, like, I could never. Like, I call my mom maybe once, once a week. If not, she calls me like, six times a day.

[Fran]

So it's like, yeah, let's go back to the Susanna. Healthy, healthy Susanna. Being in love With Conrad. Yeah.

[Andrew]

And, and I think, here's the thing. I thought at this point, Jeremiah and Conrad are allowed to love the same things. They're brothers, they grew up together, they live the same lifestyle. You're allowed to love the same things. He loved his mom equally as Conrad did. And he loved Belly equally as Conrad did, which is so valid. And okay. I think that everyone makes it not okay for someone to love the same thing as their brother just because they did. Like you think they both fell for both their family. Like their, like they fell for their mother's love. Okay. And they wanted to, they wanted to have that equally.

[Alex]

Uh huh.

[Andrew]

And he knew his love, his mom's love for Conrad was more than his. Same with his dad. Like, everyone loved Conrad more than Jeremiah and Jeremiah was always the on the back burner. But then when Belly finally chose Jeremiah, she was like, he was like, finally, I have this thing that I can call mine that I, I finally. The love that we both shared, me and Conrad is finally mine was more.

[Fran]

Than his son Jeremiah. Yeah. You know what I mean?

[Ria]

Yeah. Yeah, that's so true. That's so true. But I think Belly herself got caught up in that because I think she felt that way too.

[Andrew]

Yeah.

[Ria]

And then she like, absolutely. And then was like, oh, now I like, I don't. I've wrapped my whole life in him because he's so great and I love him but like not.

[Andrew]

Yeah, I think so.

[Ria]

Afraid of hurting him in that same way, you know, she.

[Andrew]

Yeah, she irritates. She was fine in Paris.

[Ria]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Andrew]

That's where it should have ended.

[Fran]

There were some ended there troubling Belly episodes this season.

[Alex]

Was she Conrad in Paris?

[Ria]

No, she went off on her own.

[Andrew]

Yeah.

[Ria]

But got it. He, he, he came back.

[Alex]

Oh, of course, of course he did.

[Andrew]

Obviously that's what a toxic man does.

[Fran]

I also want to talk to you about the materialists.

[Andrew]

Okay.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Andrew]

Oh, we went to saw that.

[Fran]

We saw it together. What were your guys thoughts? Because it's been kind of a hot topic between this.

[Ria]

It's been hot on the. We all agree we're, we're months and months late to it on the show because it's now like finally on. Like you can like rent it on your tv. Yeah. So like now we've all actually watched it.

[Andrew]

We're also very big move. Like I am. But I always does our big date spot. We go. Yeah. Like literally once a week.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Andrew]

And I took her to see Materialist and she took me to see a scary movie, which I hated.

[Alex]

It's give and take.

[Fran]

Weapons.

[Andrew]

No, Weapons was good.

[Alex]

You have to watch it now.

[Ria]

We haven't seen it. I think it's like for someone who.

[Alex]

Doesn'T like horror movies or scary movies, that's a really good one to watch because it's an original comedy at the end. Great.

[Andrew]

Yeah. And then we saw the comedy conjuring.

[Ria]

Yeah, it's scary.

[Alex]

No, no.

[Andrew]

But the materialist I thought was very real. I thought it was real. But at the same time the knee surgery was diabolical.

[Fran]

We are in agreement that this was a bad movie. Like. Like the three of us were just like there was no push and pull. Like there was no really build up between. That's true.

[Ria]

I bought into none of the Chris.

[Fran]

Evans or her and Pedro Pascal. Actually.

[Andrew]

I think it was very real in a sense that I feel like this is what a woman categorizes. Two men.

[Ad]

Okay.

[Andrew]

A man that has the wealth and everything that can give her the lifestyle that she can live comfortably and live good. And a guy that knows gonna love her to the end without.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Andrew]

You know who she. Who would love her forever. And it's always like, who doesn't have the money.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Andrew]

So it's always that like.

[Ria]

Yeah. But there was no chemistry between. For either of them.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Andrew]

Acting though.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Andrew]

Like she's like that.

[Ria]

Like I felt like Chris Evans normally sells it a lot better too. Like his, his like declaration of love at the end. I was like, this is. Evans is making me feel nothing, which is hard to do. Yeah, he's a good actor.

[Andrew]

Like really sad moment in there. And I was just like, well, the movie's all over the place.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Fran]

Yes.

[Alex]

That part was like.

[Ria]

Yeah, it took it right. Took a dark turn. That was dark. And then wasn't necessary the movie.

[Andrew]

Cuz it was a beautiful wedding scene. And I thought that was. I was like, okay, we got something going here and then you got to come home. I need help. I was just like.

[Fran]

Right.

[Ria]

It was like. There could have been more. Yeah.

[Fran]

The height.

[Ria]

The height surgery.

[Fran]

Surgery was one of the most ridiculous things. But it's.

[Andrew]

I think it's like, it's a.

[Fran]

It's.

[Andrew]

I've seen quite a few tik toks of the height surgery. It's actually real and people are doing it.

[Ria]

The height surgery. Okay. So it must just be like a hot topic right now that like it's like, oh my God, height surgery and.

[Ad]

Yeah.

[Ria]

And writers in Hollywood are like learning about this and they're putting it in everything because let me tell you, I Was watching Chicago Med. The premiere or the second episode. I watch all the Chicago shows and. And a guy and his wife come in and the guy's like, got an infection. He proposed. They were in the lake, he got an infection. And the doctor's looking at him, he's like, oh, this like, looks like you had some sort of surgery. And he was like, oh yeah, like blah, blah, blah. He said he had gotten to a car accident and then he got an X ray. They got that. Got the X ray. And the doctor was like, he's got.

[Fran]

Rods up his entire.

[Ria]

Like he got. He got height surgery. And he goes in and the guy was like, no, but that's what's so crazy. And the guy was like, don't tell my fiance. Like she doesn't know. Like why she wouldn't love me if she knew. And then it was like a whole. He had a whole crisis because he's been short his whole life. Had a major complex and super procedure.

[Fran]

That procedure that breaks the legs bones gradually.

[Ria]

And so they. The doctors fought to get rid of the infection without. Without ruining his height surgery. Cuz he was like, I'd literally rather die die than be short again.

[Fran]

Before and after.

[Ria]

He straight up was like, I'd rather die die.

[Andrew]

They have to like relearn how to walk.

[Alex]

Yeah.

[Ria]

It's insane. Clearly it's a very hot topic right now. They're putting it in a lot, everywhere.

[Andrew]

It's funny because their limbs don't.

[Fran]

One place is this. This institute is crazy.

[Andrew]

Sorry. Cut that. Their arms are still like short, baby. Sorry.

[Ria]

You're right. No, you're judging people based on heights. All of a sudden, 6 inches to their height, they're gonna like, you're.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Ria]

Not gonna be proportional. It's like a very. It's a lot of height to add on.

[Andrew]

No, it is.

[Ria]

It's not like they're adding on two inches. They're adding on like four to six.

[Fran]

Oh, they are?

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Andrew]

But it was just funny how they made Pedro be that guy.

[Ria]

And I was just like, yeah, I know, I know.

[Andrew]

That was so funny.

[Ria]

But that's why it also, like, it was so serious that it took me out because it was such a ridiculous thing. And it's like, would you love me if I was short? It's like, I can't. I can't with this.

[Fran]

This red just popped up. I had lead leg lengthening surgery. And I'll never tell my future wife.

[Alex]

But there has to be a scar. There has to be essentially what the.

[Fran]

Title says, a little over three years ago.

[Ria]

I feel like this guy, say down.

[Fran]

To a car of bilateral femur lengthening after a life of height related insecurity.

[Andrew]

Did he say over the course of.

[Fran]

Few months, I went from 5.8.5 to a solid 6 foot.

[Andrew]

Really?

[Fran]

You went up 3 inches?

[Andrew]

That's not even.

[Ria]

Oh, that's not. I didn't even. It's not worth like not a chance in your shoes. Or maybe that is the change people do.

[Fran]

It was a bit gruesome at times, but I've been pretty much physically recovered for quite a while now and ready to put the space in my life behind me. I've been thinking about this a lot lately and I don't think I'll tell a future partner. I look the same as any guy who's naturally taller. Anyway, one of my most recent ex girlfriends has had a boob job and I genuinely had no idea until she jokingly told me. Upon very close inspection, I could see tiny incision marks, but they look and feel the same as any natural tits.

[Ria]

Wait, wait, wait.

[Fran]

Is no different in my opinion. His ex girlfriend, he said so he got a cop a feel on his ex girlfriend.

[Ria]

They were together.

[Andrew]

Are they back?

[Ria]

No, no, no.

[Fran]

His ex girlfriend has had a gotcha, gotcha, gotcha, gotcha.

[Andrew]

And she was after the fact that.

[Ria]

He had no idea.

[Fran]

He had no idea.

[Ria]

He didn't look at those pictures.

[Fran]

He told her and he said this scenario is no different in my opinion.

[Andrew]

Well, she's gonna know.

[Fran]

I've been seeing a girl since pretty recently and we're really hitting it off. I still have somewhat obvious scarring. Scarring. Especially on my right leg. And she asked about this the other day. I told her I had an accident as a child and left it at that.

[Andrew]

If you like live with a lie.

[Fran]

I absolutely do not want to have biological children for a variety of reasons.

[Ria]

Oh, oh, yeah. Taking a turn.

[Fran]

Yeah, yeah.

[Andrew]

He got bread because he doesn't want.

[Ria]

You know, this guy's got.

[Andrew]

That procedure is not cheap.

[Fran]

Really?

[Ria]

No, it's really expensive. No, but man, this guy clearly went through a lot because he doesn't. Yeah, he doesn't want to. He doesn't want to pass on the short genes.

[Fran]

5, 8, normal.

[Alex]

It is.

[Andrew]

He must have like a look thing too.

[Fran]

Yeah, right, right.

[Andrew]

Because you. Sorry.

[Fran]

I mean the thing is with this, it's anonymous, so he doesn't want that.

[Andrew]

Biological children, you could be like, oh, they're short because my wife was short, you know.

[Ria]

Yeah, yeah.

[Fran]

Oh, this. Okay, this, by the way, this is Absurd.

[Ria]

This person wearing it to 5.

[Fran]

This person went from 511 to 6 6. Why are you getting it from 5.

[Ria]

11, 511 to 66 is actually like, that's.

[Andrew]

That's what I would do it for, though. If I'm gonna get it, I'm gonna go get it. I'm gonna get it.

[Ria]

People that know you. Sorry. Like, that's your. That's ridiculous.

[Andrew]

Imagine. Wow, you had a growth.

[Ria]

There's no way to hide that.

[Fran]

It's not like you're gonna life.

[Ria]

It's not like you're five' eleven. You're like, okay, maybe you're like six one now. You're like, a little bit. It's like, yeah. People are like, you look a little taller.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Ria]

Six sixes. You're not fitting into doorways. Yeah, yeah.

[Alex]

Because a couple inches, it's like, that's crazy.

[Andrew]

Yeah.

[Fran]

Guys, I am now down a rabbit.

[Ria]

Hole to a boob job is also kind of. You gotta see the workout people, like.

[Andrew]

Do to get back.

[Ria]

Most people can kind of tell when people have.

[Fran]

You have a boob job.

[Ria]

Like, it's like, that's true, you know?

[Alex]

Yeah.

[Ria]

Or with a partner. It's like, those things aren't.

[Fran]

You know, maybe he hasn't felt many others before.

[Ria]

Yeah, right, right, right. Because then it's like, oh, he's never gonna admit to the leg thing.

[Ad]

Yeah.

[Andrew]

That's crazy to me.

[Alex]

His family would know.

[Andrew]

So then it's like, well, he's not getting a biological.

[Alex]

No, no. But like, so, like, it's weird. Family would know and he brings.

[Andrew]

Unless you like.

[Ria]

Yeah, right, right, right.

[Alex]

Life.

[Andrew]

Yeah.

[Ria]

Everyone keep it a secret. I got this.

[Fran]

I'm, like, pretty locked into that now. I got to do more research later.

[Ria]

I think we gotta. TikTok's got a crazy.

[Fran]

Oh, they do.

[Andrew]

And you'll see, like, the arms be like this.

[Fran]

I didn't realize that this was a real thing that was happening. Yeah. Oh, wow.

[Ria]

Yep, Yep.

[Andrew]

Like, men are getting a lot of surgeries nowadays.

[Ria]

Well, you know what?

[Fran]

If you want to feel better, go for it. You just wear this.

[Ria]

I agree. But that feels like the height one to me, though.

[Fran]

It just seems like a lot of risk for not a ton of reward when you're going. When you're going from 5:11 to 6, 6, 6. Like, 5:11 is an extremely normal height for a man. Yeah.

[Ria]

Just like having to break your leg, your legs.

[Fran]

Right. It seems like a big risk. It does.

[Ria]

You know, and like this guy in Chicago Med. It could get infected.

[Alex]

Right.

[Ria]

You go for A swim in the lake and boom. And boom. You have a flesh eating bacteria and it's going straight into your fake legs.

[Fran]

Yeah, that's a lot to handle. Yeah, that's.

[Alex]

But then how. What. What do they add?

[Ria]

Like, they put iron rods in.

[Andrew]

Oh, is it like.

[Ria]

Chicago Med, ladies?

[Fran]

Yeah, don't worry.

[Ria]

At least on Chicago Med, this guy had rods.

[Alex]

But they have to have more skin to stretch it.

[Ria]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. They like.

[Alex]

Or do they take a chunk of your. Like.

[Ria]

No, it's bum.

[Andrew]

It's a good question.

[Ria]

A great question.

[Alex]

Because they have to have something to add.

[Ria]

Yeah, yeah. Like I get the rods.

[Fran]

How much is it? How much?

[Ria]

I think hundreds of thousands of dollars.

[Andrew]

It's gotta be. It's gotta be the most expensive surgery. Like.

[Fran]

You'Re changing between 75,000 and over 200,000, I guess the price varying.

[Ria]

If you want to go to someone's.

[Fran]

The number of bones you want, length.

[Andrew]

If you're doing that surgery, the amount of height.

[Fran]

Inches cost more money.

[Ria]

How many bones you want lengthened? We may have to stop talking about. This is making me a little sl.

[Alex]

Yeah, like, right. We're like, oh, my gosh.

[Fran]

I'm like.

[Ria]

We're lengthy bones here. It's like a Harry Potter spell.

[Fran]

Yeah, yeah. Literally, when the.

[Ria]

When the arm goes flabby, his arms flabbing this way. Let's put an extra bone in there.

[Andrew]

Would you guys rank Harry Potter yet?

[Ria]

Oh, we have, we have. Because we did a whole re. Watch. Oh, that's gonna be hard. I don't. I don't know if we fully remember.

[Fran]

And I know, I'm gonna be completely honest, I never watched again.

[Alex]

You watched it once and that was it.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Andrew]

You need some time.

[Fran]

Like.

[Andrew]

So when I first watched, it took me like a two, three years before I got back on.

[Ria]

I just. I don't know if you'll. I don't know if you'll jump.

[Fran]

I don't know. I don't think it's my jam. It's not forever.

[Alex]

Are you like a Lord of the Rings or.

[Fran]

No, no, Twilight. Twilight.

[Ria]

Twilight what?

[Alex]

Yeah, I don't know.

[Ria]

But Twilight fantasy, though, like Harry Potter, Lord of the Rings. Way more fantasy. Twilight's really, you know, driven by a love story. The werewolves.

[Alex]

Not fantasy.

[Ria]

No, it's fantasy, but the love story takes.

[Alex]

I've never seen it, you know, but.

[Andrew]

I've never seen it.

[Fran]

No, it's very romantic.

[Ad]

Oh, my God.

[Ria]

Well, there's not as.

[Alex]

You know. What is it, loca?

[Ria]

It's where the hell you Been.

[Andrew]

It's literally. Oh, my God, that's Greg's.

[Alex]

Oh, that was his thing.

[Ria]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, I saw that.

[Fran]

I am watching the Lord of the Rings, though. I am open to watching that one.

[Ria]

You know, like, Lord of the Rings doesn't have a driving love story, unless.

[Fran]

You count the ring.

[Andrew]

Yeah.

[Fran]

But I could. What? You know, I could watch things that don't involve a love story. But I gotta. Like. Like, it's weird. Sometimes I buy right It. Buy right into.

[Ria]

You know, what she bought has bought right into Fast and Furious.

[Fran]

But there's love stories combined in there.

[Andrew]

But that's not the drive after they went to space.

[Fran]

Oh, well, no, I'm not up to that yet.

[Ria]

She hadn't even seen any of them.

[Fran]

First.

[Andrew]

First three. I'll go with the five. Five is at five.

[Fran]

People love five. That's this weekend. I haven't watched it.

[Andrew]

Five is great, but after that you're. You're really.

[Fran]

And seven when they say goodbye.

[Andrew]

Yeah. You know, I think it was eight. Eight was insane. Nine, ten. This last ten when I watched was good. Ten was good.

[Fran]

Yeah. They'll lose me probably after seven. Every time.

[Alex]

Every time it's the same actors.

[Andrew]

Well, they add some people.

[Ria]

Like, some people come in.

[Fran]

No, they change. They change. Like.

[Andrew]

Well, everyone dies. Always comes back.

[Fran]

Yeah. No, and the second movie, like, the second movie was way different than the first. And then the third had none of the other characters. The third was Tokyo Drift without Paul Walker or Vin Diesel.

[Andrew]

Yeah.

[Fran]

Where I was like, okay, I like.

[Andrew]

Vin Diesel's in the end.

[Fran]

Yes, I did hear that. But. Yeah.

[Andrew]

Oh, and then Chan was in that too.

[Fran]

Yes, and that's. Yes, I learned that too. So, yeah, I'm bought into that. But Lord of the Rings I have kept open because my sister is very obsessed with Lord of the Rings.

[Alex]

Okay.

[Fran]

And she's always tells me to watch. But, you know, it's very long sometimes. That stuff's not my jam.

[Andrew]

Yeah, it's. It's. It's a long watch too. So that's like the problem with those. I just like.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Andrew]

Can't get on that.

[Fran]

Yeah, it's weird because, like, I loved Game of Thrones.

[Andrew]

Yes.

[Fran]

Right. So, like. Oh, yeah. But that's just like one of the best TV shows ever. And I really did fucking love it. But if you are gonna give me. So, like, the House of the Dragon, the plot line, I bounced out of that. Like, I couldn't get into it. So it's weird. I.

[Andrew]

You know, there was no connections.

[Fran]

Sometimes I'M in.

[Ria]

Yeah. I would say the plots, the. Like, the storyline in Game of Thrones, I think, is just a lot better too.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Ad]

It's just.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Andrew]

I don't understand why, like, even, like, Harry Potter come with this new show. It's just a re.

[Fran]

Yeah. Make.

[Andrew]

Why not give us, like, the Voldemort story or, like, him killing, like, Harry's parents or, like, how he turned evil.

[Ria]

I mean, that's what I want to see. It's just money, money, money, you know, it's like. Because it's like they recycle everything. It's like how enough times pass. Let's remake it into something else.

[Andrew]

I've always.

[Ria]

It's like we have 80 different Spider Mans, you know, so they're like, all right, now it's time for a new Harry Potter.

[Andrew]

Yeah.

[Alex]

She. It's like, probably because it's tied to her, so she would have to come up with the storyline.

[Andrew]

It's already. It's already written. They have it.

[Alex]

Oh, yeah.

[Andrew]

Yeah. It's all in the books, like, how it happened and when it. When it came.

[Ria]

Yeah, but they would. She'd probably have. Be very involved.

[Andrew]

Yeah, she's very involved in this one.

[Alex]

Well, that's what I'm saying.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Alex]

Is.

[Andrew]

You know, but then, like, Game of Thrones, like, why not, like, show, like, the Mad King? Like, I want to see that. You know what I'm saying? Like, you're, like, the main, like, protagonist. You never show us. Like, I. I don't understand.

[Fran]

Why aren't they showing me the thing that I want to say?

[Ria]

Right. But that's what they did with the Penguin. And the Penguin was so good.

[Andrew]

Yes. Yeah.

[Ria]

You know, it's a penguin. Yeah, yeah.

[Andrew]

Batman.

[Ria]

But he's a villain. Batman's like, you know, it's never about the villain.

[Fran]

And everybody wanted.

[Ria]

And he was Joker.

[Fran]

Right. And. And we all wanted Joker movies because of the Joker.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Fran]

We wanted Heath Ledger. We wanted, you know, for sure and for sure, unfortunately, you know.

[Ria]

Did you watch the trailer for Eternity? That's a new rom com coming out that. It's gonna be so good. I'll play it for you after.

[Andrew]

Oh, yeah.

[Ria]

Miles Teller, Elizabeth Olsen column Turner.

[Andrew]

No, I didn't see this.

[Ria]

Right. I'm, like, so excited about. I'm telling Everybody about. It's 824 been. I have. I haven't. Shut up.

[Fran]

And honestly, I learned a lot from you.

[Ria]

I'm so excited for it because I'm just like. Actually, there's a lot of hype around it. And I'm like, I want this actually be good. Divine Joy Randolph's in it, too. And it's, like, about the afterlife and, like, who you. You get to. You get to the afterlife and you pick your partner for, like, eternity. And I guess she had like a. Maybe a husband or someone die early, so he's already there.

[Andrew]

So she was.

[Ria]

So now she's there with her. Oh, current husband, I think. And then past one, it's like the one that died young is there. So she's. It's like, who do you.

[Fran]

Who does she pick? Oh, that's why I haven't seen much about this film.

[Ria]

About the film.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Ria]

Well, I don't. Well, they haven't started really doing that much press for it.

[Andrew]

Another rom com that was, like, very popular that was coming out. I don't know what it was.

[Fran]

It already has a grade on Rotten Tomatoes.

[Ria]

Yeah, it does. It's high, right?

[Fran]

86%.

[Ria]

Yeah. Good enough for me.

[Andrew]

That's really good.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Fran]

And letterboxd. It has a 3.8 out of 5.

[Ria]

Yeah, it doesn't. It's just.

[Ad]

That's not.

[Andrew]

That letterbox is more like, like.

[Fran]

Yeah, Yeah.

[Ria]

I better not be let down.

[Alex]

I've been hyping that we just watched.

[Ria]

But it doesn't come out till Thanksgiving.

[Fran]

Yes.

[Andrew]

Oh, the Margot Robbie one.

[Alex]

I fell asleep at the movie theater.

[Ria]

Oh, with the Colin.

[Alex]

Yes.

[Ria]

No, Colin Farrell.

[Andrew]

Terrible.

[Ria]

I heard that was the worst movie I've ever seen.

[Andrew]

Yeah, Yeah, I would. I would pick Miranda costar over.

[Ria]

Astonishing to me that you can put Colin Farrell and Margot Robbie the. In a movie together and have it be that bad.

[Fran]

Right. But you ever see movies pop up when you're scrolling on streaming services where it's like, you know, Bradley Cooper and Al Pacino, and you're like, how come I've never heard of this? There's a reason I haven't heard of it, you know?

[Ria]

Yes, that's exactly.

[Fran]

Because sometimes we're like, should we watch it? I'm like, no, no, no. There's a reason we haven't heard this one yet.

[Ria]

Yeah, that's so true. That's so true. Okay, guys, very fun movie.

[Ad]

Yeah, I love.

[Ria]

I love chatting movies with you guys. Love catching up with you guys. I guess we'll end with. I'm sure the question most like Bachelor fans want to know is you guys live in different places.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Ria]

What's the plan? Am I putting pressure on you guys? No, no, no, no, no.

[Andrew]

You can go and ask.

[Alex]

Yeah, of course. I mean, I really want to move here. I, like, love New York.

[Fran]

Yes.

[Alex]

But I've heard it's different to visit than living here.

[Ria]

It is, but I love living.

[Alex]

Right, Exactly. So slowly but surely, I think I'll convince him. But I think, yeah, next year I'm moving to Chicago.

[Ria]

Okay.

[Alex]

I want to be in the city.

[Ria]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Alex]

So it's a happy medium, I think. And then. But I would love, ideally, a year in New York, and then we move to Chicago to settle down.

[Ria]

There you go.

[Noah]

Yeah.

[Ria]

You could do a year in New York.

[Andrew]

I could do somewhere.

[Alex]

Exactly.

[Andrew]

I could do it here.

[Fran]

Here.

[Andrew]

I just know it's just like, it's so. But for you, it's a lot like Chicago. Like, we love to rot. I feel like you can't rot in New York.

[Alex]

What do you mean? That's how you. He said that this morning, driving.

[Andrew]

I feel like.

[Fran]

You'Re looking at two girls. Right. I can. I live in Jersey City, but I.

[Ria]

Can go breakfast, lunch, dinner, Uber.

[Andrew]

How long have you been here?

[Fran]

Well, we lived in, like, New York. Well, see, our whole lives outside of.

[Andrew]

The city, we've never, like, been from, so it's.

[Fran]

Yeah, I'm from long.

[Ria]

I've been living in the city since 2016.

[Fran]

Yeah. Okay.

[Andrew]

See, so we're like. We'd have to be like, oh, well, we have to go see this, this, and this and go.

[Fran]

Right?

[Ria]

Yeah, but that gets that. You do that quickly. And then there's not much, but then.

[Andrew]

Okay.

[Fran]

And then now it's just like, what restaurant are we hitting now?

[Andrew]

But then if we're gonna go rot now, I'm paying double what I'm paying in Chicago.

[Ria]

It's not that much more expensive. Chicago's expensive.

[Alex]

Thank you.

[Andrew]

No.

[Ria]

And it's cold.

[Andrew]

It's the same way.

[Fran]

It gets really cold here.

[Alex]

It does. But I Check on chocolate ChatGPT the other day because I was like, I know this.

[Fran]

No, it gets very cold here.

[Alex]

It's a little bit colder.

[Ria]

Chicago does get cold because of the, like, there's a lot more. I see a lot more negatives in the.

[Fran]

Yeah, New York does get very cold.

[Alex]

Right. I'm from Canada, so I'm used to it.

[Ria]

So.

[Andrew]

Okay, so what's your point about.

[Ria]

Right, right.

[Andrew]

You live cold.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Alex]

But, like, coming from la, I need, like, I can't go straight to.

[Fran]

You just want to have your New.

[Alex]

York City a year, especially that everyone that knows.

[Ria]

And you know what? I think that is extremely fair. And I think everybody should live in New York for a little bit of time before you go before. Before you go to where? The final destination.

[Fran]

I lived in New York for a little bit. Now I live in Jersey City.

[Ria]

There you go.

[Alex]

Exactly.

[Fran]

You've had right outside.

[Andrew]

How long's your commute?

[Fran]

Quick? I mean, it really depends on the day. Like, train wise will always be 20 to 25 minutes. I don't always take the train. Sometimes I drive. Sometimes I Uber. That could be 20 to 30 minutes or it could be an hour, depending on traffic.

[Alex]

Yeah, but.

[Fran]

No, but Jersey City's fan. Fantastic. I love it, Love it so much.

[Ria]

Okay, well, we're very much looking forward to the New York phase. Yeah, we'll see the next step. But thank you guys for coming in and hanging out with us. So fun.

[Andrew]

Hope you guys get to see Charlie Sheen.

[Fran]

Well, you know, we've been talking for an hour now. I think Charlie's probably out the door.

[Andrew]

That's your time limit. I'm ready to go.

[Fran]

I think Charlie probably know. He seems like quite the.

[Andrew]

Yeah, I feel like.

[Fran]

Well, I think they probably didn't start that interview till 2 and I don't know how long it was. You know, maybe. Yeah. Dave is in the office today too. Maybe.

[Ria]

All right, so everyone shut up.

[Fran]

So we go out, we walk out into the lobby and it's Charlie Sheen, Dave, and just like the most random collection of people.

[Alex]

Cbs.

[Fran]

Cbs.

[Ria]

Thanks, guys.

[Fran]

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[Ria]

Amazing. We're gonna jump right into it. It's 15 questions. If you get the question right, you get the point. If you get it wrong, the other team can steal the point. Whoever has the most points at the end wins. To determine who goes first, Noah's gonna give us a movie. We're gonna guess the Rotten Tomatoes critic score of that movie. Whoever is closest will guess first. And everyone gets their own guess. Will alternate between teams for guesses. So what is today's movie?

[Noah]

No, today's movie is Materialist.

[Fran]

All right, one of you goes really on your brain.

[Ad]

I know. I tried to, like, look up movies that you guys have been talking about too, but I didn't look up this one. 57.

[Fran]

Ria. So I weirdly think this got a. That this got a high score. I'm gonna say 86. Okay. I did not see it, but I'm going off of what you guys reviewed, so I'm gonna say like 42.

[Ria]

I think it started off really good and then, like, drastically dropped. I'm gonna say 36.

[Noah]

Ria's the closest. 78.

[Fran]

It should not be crazy. It should not. Really.

[Ria]

That's really cool.

[Fran]

Crazy.

[Ria]

I thought. I remember seeing it and then. And then being like, oh, it fell off a lot. But I actually think. Cuz it started at like 96.

[Fran]

Yeah, I. That's what I remember seeing.

[Ria]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Noah]

That's just absurd. Like, I'm just. I just know there's romcoms that are like, incredible that are way lower than that.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Noah]

Okay, question number one. To Re and Fran, shout out Megan. What is Zac Efron's character's first name in the Greatest Showman in.

[Fran]

Fran, this has got to be you. I've only seen the Greatest Showman like, one time.

[Ria]

And I should know this because I just went through the entire cast. They just announced the cast for the show in England.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Alex]

This is like your.

[Fran]

One of your favorite movies.

[Ria]

Yeah, but they, like, don't talk to each other by name.

[Noah]

Five seconds.

[Fran]

Do you have any guess?

[Ria]

Philip?

[Noah]

Final answer correct. Wow, you're lucky because the original question was full name, but I was like, that's probably too hard.

[Fran]

You know what?

[Noah]

Philip Carlisle.

[Fran]

A little picture.

[Ria]

I actually would have gotten that.

[Noah]

You think?

[Ria]

Yes, because in my mind I was thinking Carlisle. I was like, could Carlisle possibly be his first name?

[Fran]

Isn't that the first name in Twilight?

[Ria]

Philip Carla. Yeah, the dad, right?

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Noah]

Okay. One, nothing ran friend. Question number two to Kellyanne and Colleen. Shout out Lainey from Philly. She says, go Birds. Who was runner up on Dancing with The Stars season 33 in 2024 behind winner Joey Grassadeh.

[Ad]

Oh, my God. I didn't watch the finale, but I watched the rest of the season. Was it Alona?

[Alex]

I think it was Ilona in the.

[Ria]

End because it was those two.

[Fran]

And.

[Ad]

And like Chandler and Steven And Dan. I think it was.

[Fran]

I think Alona was the. Yeah, she goes.

[Ad]

Alona and Alan. Yeah, Alona and Alan. Final answer correct.

[Fran]

Nice.

[Ad]

Got one.

[Fran]

It's a great start. It's a great start.

[Ria]

I like space on every single person I was on last season.

[Noah]

Okay, tied up at one. Question number three. Turian friends shout out Megan from Miami.

[Fran]

Name.

[Noah]

This year, the Office US Version premieres. Hollaback Girl by Gwen Stefani is released, and Brad Pitt and Jennifer Aniston get divorced.03.

[Fran]

Yeah, that's.

[Ria]

Yeah, I'm in that. I'm in that world, too. My first thought was four, but it's four too late. Maybe three. Didn't they just celebrate 20 years of the Office?

[Fran]

Office.

[Ria]

Wasn't that a whole big thing last year?

[Noah]

10 seconds.

[Fran]

I'm just like, so not an office person that. It really throws me off. It's probably either of those, which is 3004.

[Ria]

2004.

[Noah]

Final answer incorrect. Kellyanna Collins.

[Ria]

I think it.

[Ad]

Is it 05. They're celebrating 20 years this year of the Office, right? That sounds right, but I think It's. I think it's.

[Ria]

05.

[Ad]

2005. Final answer correct.

[Fran]

All right. Either way, we would have been wrong.

[Ria]

Either way, I was wrong, but I was right about them celebrating 20. I just didn't realize it was this year.

[Noah]

Are they doing anything? Like. I haven't really, like, seen anything like. No, they're not.

[Fran]

I don't know.

[Noah]

I don't.

[Fran]

Clearly, you guys have seen something about it.

[Ria]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. We're all talking about it.

[Noah]

All right, two, one. Kellyanne and Colleen's question is to them, shout out Megan from Miami again. What actor is in all of these films? TV shows, The Bear, Train Wreck, 21 Jump Street.

[Fran]

I have not seen a single one of them.

[Ad]

Is this to us?

[Fran]

Yeah, I.

[Ad]

My weird guess is, like, isn't Rob riggle. He's in 21 Jump Street. It's kind of like a random person.

[Ria]

So I'm like.

[Ad]

Because it's not one of the main. I've only seen 21 Jump street and these three.

[Alex]

Great.

[Ad]

Should we just say that?

[Fran]

Yeah, go for it.

[Ad]

Rob Briggle. Final answer incorrect.

[Fran]

That was it. I was gonna say Rob.

[Ria]

I was about to be like, yep, correct.

[Fran]

Is it.

[Ad]

Well, at least it wasn't a dumb guess.

[Ria]

No. I don't know.

[Noah]

15 seconds.

[Fran]

Dave Franco isn't in.

[Ria]

He in the Bear.

[Fran]

No. That's what I'm thinking of. Like, I can't think of.

[Ria]

Unless there's a count. Like that one random episode that everyone's in.

[Fran]

Oh, in the.

[Ria]

But he's not in Train wreck.

[Noah]

Time is up.

[Fran]

Brie Larson.

[Alex]

Yep.

[Ria]

Final answer correct. Wow. When is she in the bear?

[Noah]

She's isn't like, the sister or something? Or, like, I looked up, like, just to confirm, and there. She's definitely in that. I just don't know what her character technically is. She plays Francine, the sister of Neil and Teddy.

[Ria]

Oh, wow.

[Noah]

Yeah.

[Fran]

Good poll at the buzzer.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Noah]

Wow. Was that in the.

[Fran]

Like, it was in the back of my head. Yes. I was thinking it too.

[Ria]

I just couldn't place her in the.

[Fran]

I felt silly saying it, but I thought we have no guess.

[Noah]

All right.

[Fran]

I knew Dave Franco was a bad guest.

[Noah]

Question number five to Re and Fran, shout out Danny from Hebron, Maine. And thank you for letting me know that it's called Hebron because I've been saying Hebron, I think.

[Ria]

Nice.

[Noah]

What artist has performed in the super bowl halftime show more than once in the last five years?

[Ria]

In the last five years?

[Fran]

Kendrick Lamar. Ooh, It's Kendrick Lamar, right?

[Ria]

Because he did his own, and then he was in the other one.

[Fran]

Yes.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Fran]

Final answer correct. Nice.

[Noah]

2022. 2025. All right. Three, two. I was just about to say perfect score so far, and now no reason.

[Fran]

I mean, you.

[Ria]

That's your favorite thing to do.

[Noah]

Okay, question number six. To Kellyanne and Colleen, it is three, two, ran. Fran, shout out Heather from Chicago. What is the first Taylor Swift song to be played in the summer I Turn Pretty Season 1 episode? Episode 1?

[Ad]

I don't know, because she just started it over.

[Ria]

Cruel Summer.

[Ad]

Is that you think?

[Fran]

I think it.

[Alex]

Because.

[Ria]

And lover plays when she sees Conrad.

[Fran]

But I don't know if it opens with Cruel Summer.

[Ad]

I feel like the first one's probably when he sees her.

[Ria]

What did it say?

[Ad]

Would they open and then go right into Taylor?

[Noah]

So look.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Ria]

So lover.

[Fran]

Lover. Yeah.

[Ad]

Lover.

[Noah]

Final answer incorrect to re in front.

[Ria]

I don't know.

[Ad]

Sorry.

[Ria]

If you were right, I don't know. The first episode, they get there, they throw in the pool.

[Noah]

10 seconds.

[Ria]

I don't even have a guess. Should we just guess?

[Fran]

Girl.

[Ad]

Summer.

[Fran]

Yeah. Yeah. That feels too obvious.

[Ria]

I don't think it's that. Sparks fly. It could be sparks fly.

[Noah]

Final answer.

[Ria]

Cruel Summer.

[Noah]

Final answer correct.

[Fran]

Oh, thank God.

[Ad]

Sorry, Cal.

[Fran]

It's okay. Yeah.

[Noah]

Lover is played in that first episode too, but it's not the first song. All right. Four, two, Ran.

[Fran]

Fran, a little more obvious in the first season. Yeah.

[Noah]

Question number seven to Re. Infran. Shout out. Abby from Boyd's, Maryland, who hosted the finale of SNL season 50.

[Fran]

It was this past year.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Fran]

I don't know. Couldn't possibly be Chevy Chase.

[Ria]

I don't think he did it. Adam Sandler. Martin Short.

[Noah]

10 seconds.

[Fran]

I don't know. Those are both good guesses.

[Ria]

Season 50 finale. I feel like we would have remembered. Did we just go with Adam Sanders?

[Noah]

Time is up.

[Fran]

Adam Sandler, final answer incorrectly. You know, Cal, no. Is. Isn't the finale always like it's someone.

[Ad]

I think it's someone who. It was their fifth time because they were getting their like five year club robe. But I don't know, like it's not. So maybe it was Martin Short because.

[Fran]

I feel like his was recently and they brought back like a bunch of people. Yeah, okay.

[Ad]

Martin Short. Final answer incorrect.

[Noah]

Scarlett Johansson.

[Ria]

Oh. Oh, yeah.

[Fran]

And it was a whole thing.

[Ria]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yep, yep. She did the weekend. Yeah, the whole thing.

[Noah]

All right. Four, two. Still Rhea and friend. This is question eight. Shout out Melissa from Naples, Florida. Name this Disney Channel original movie based on the IMDb description. Five high school students form a music group and prepare to compete against a popular rock band.

[Ad]

Lemonade Mouth. Yeah, it's Lemonade. I'm like kind of embarrassed to know that cuz that was after my time. But yeah, Lemonade Mouth. Final answer correct.

[Fran]

No need to be embarrassed.

[Ria]

No need. No need.

[Fran]

I.

[Ria]

We all knew that one.

[Ad]

Smile on your face.

[Ria]

We all knew that one.

[Ad]

Immediately we were like, this is what we're here for.

[Fran]

Yeah, that movie rocked.

[Noah]

Okay, question number nine. To re infran it is four, three. Them. Shadow Cat Catherine from Nova Scotia, Canada. In Friends. What was Monica wearing when Chandler told her he loved her for the first time?

[Ria]

I don't know.

[Fran]

Sometimes I think these friends questions are just stupid because there's just so many seasons.

[Ria]

How could one possibly remember? I don't know. What is she wearing? It's gotta be something weird. Then.

[Fran]

Oh, oh. Cause he laughs, he goes, I love you. And then she's like, what? Right, right. Is it the turkey head? Sure, the turkey head. Final answer correct.

[Ad]

That's what I was gonna guess too.

[Ria]

Sorry. We worked it out.

[Fran]

We got there. We got there.

[Ria]

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[Noah]

All right, five, three. Ran Fran question number 10 to Colleen and Kellyanne. I'm playing a movie clip, and you tell me what movie it's from.

[Fran]

You guys know that I was here all weekend, right? Yeah.

[Ria]

Yes, you were upstairs. You would testify to that?

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Andrew]

I would take a bullet for you. You know that. Right between the eyes when I would slit my throat rather than say something.

[Fran]

To someone that you didn't want me to say.

[Ria]

That's not necessary. Yeah, but that is comforting.

[Noah]

That's how I am.

[Andrew]

That's how I roll. That's how I do.

[Ad]

Is it easy A. It sounds like Emma Stone.

[Fran]

Yeah. That.

[Ad]

Unless I'm super off, that's.

[Fran]

That's as good of a guess as I have. I don't really. Right. Easy.

[Ad]

A final answer.

[Noah]

Correct.

[Ria]

It's a great Stanley Tucci role.

[Noah]

All right, back and forth. 5, 4. Ran Fran question number 11 to them, shout out Leah from Dallas. What is the town that the Walters live in in the Netflix show My Life with the Walter boys.

[Ria]

Oh, frickety.

[Noah]

15 seconds.

[Ria]

Got no clue. It's one of those. Those cut. You know, one of those country towns.

[Fran]

What state are they in?

[Ria]

I think Texas. I think that could also be wrong.

[Noah]

Three seconds. Time is up.

[Ria]

I got no guess.

[Fran]

Zero.

[Noah]

All right, to Kellyanne and Colleen.

[Ad]

Did you watch it, Cal?

[Fran]

No, I haven't watched it. I did, and I don't.

[Ad]

I have for some reason. I have, like, Silver Falls in my head, but that doesn't. Doesn't sound right, but I don't have anything else, so I'm just gonna go for it.

[Ria]

Silver Falls.

[Ad]

Final answer.

[Noah]

Correct. Colorado.

[Ria]

Oh, they're in Colorado. Yes.

[Noah]

Wow.

[Fran]

Quite different.

[Ria]

Totally not Texas. You know, it's. They're really country for being in Colorado.

[Ad]

No, it's very. Yeah, it's like more Wyoming vibes would have been my guess.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Noah]

All right, tied up at 5. This question is number 12 to Colleen and Kellyanne. Shout out Katie from Bayside Wisconsin, she says, go, pet, go. Sorry, friend.

[Ria]

No apology needed in Shrek.

[Noah]

What is the shape of Princess Fiona and Shrek's carriage after they get married?

[Ad]

It's an onion, right?

[Fran]

Yes.

[Ad]

Yeah. Yeah, an onion. Final answer.

[Noah]

Correct.

[Ad]

Bobby's gonna be so proud.

[Ria]

We're flying through these.

[Fran]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Noah]

All right, six, five. Colleen and Kellyanne, this is question number 13. To Ran, Fran, shout out Laura from Minneapolis in the kissing booth. What is the name of each girl that makes up the OMG Girls?

[Fran]

No, I literally zero idea.

[Ria]

Who were the OMG Girls. I don't even remember. They just all have omg.

[Fran]

Olivia.

[Ria]

Has to be Olivia, Megan and.

[Fran]

Gabby.

[Ria]

Genevieve. Oh, Gabby. I like Gabby better. I'm just trying to think of mean girl things.

[Noah]

Five seconds.

[Ria]

All right, that's our. That's our Megan and Gabby.

[Noah]

Incorrect.

[Fran]

I think.

[Ad]

I think Olivia's right. I want to say me. I had, like, Olivia, Mia, and Gia in my head, but I don't. I don't know why I thought they all, like.

[Fran]

Yeah, I feel like it's definitely Olivia.

[Ad]

But I think it's Olivia and Mia. I don't know the G. They all.

[Fran]

Yeah, let's go with Gia. I feel like them all rhyming would be like a quick.

[Ad]

Olivia, Mia. Gia. Final answer.

[Noah]

Incorrect. You have two. Olivia, Mia. Gwyneth.

[Ria]

Gwyneth, Frano.

[Andrew]

Closer.

[Ad]

Genevieve.

[Fran]

Threw that one in there.

[Noah]

All right, still six five. Colleen and Kellyanne. And this question is to them. Number 14, shout out Haley from Raleigh, North Carolina, for the win. Yeah. For the win. In the movie how to Lose a guy in 10 days, what is the name of the dog Andy gets for her and Ben then?

[Fran]

I can picture this.

[Ad]

I know it's wearing a little, like, Burberry outfit, but I don't remember. It's like, a really girly name. Or is it like. No, now I'm thinking of High School Musical, and it's like, boy.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Ad]

Or Boyd.

[Fran]

Oh, my gosh.

[Alex]

What is it?

[Ad]

They have the love burn.

[Fran]

And that's not.5 seconds. You like Princess Sparkle?

[Alex]

Yeah.

[Ad]

Princess Sparkles.

[Noah]

Incorrect.

[Ria]

Funny enough, Princess Sparkle was also in my mind.

[Fran]

I was gonna say Sparkle. Sparkles.

[Alex]

Yes.

[Ria]

I feel like Princess was in it.

[Fran]

Or was it Ms. Sparkles?

[Andrew]

Maybe.

[Alex]

Sprinklers.

[Ria]

Sprinkles. Princess Sprinkles. It was one of those naked dogs, you know.

[Noah]

Ten seconds.

[Ria]

He had. It was a boy. I think time is up. Ugh. Princess Sprinkles.

[Noah]

Incorrect. Crawl.

[Ria]

Yeah, well, Crawl. Kroll's the. It's. Yeah, but he's talking about his Penis. Yeah, but that's because he's like the name of the dog. And then he's like, Kroll.

[Fran]

Oh, I thought that was the name that he wanted for his penis.

[Ria]

I thought that was.

[Noah]

No, that was a dick. I feel like we've had that trivia question.

[Fran]

Kroll, the Warrior King. Kroll, the Warrior King, I thought was him talking about his penis. Not the dog.

[Noah]

No, the name of the dog.

[Ria]

No, it is.

[Noah]

It is nicknamed the Tinkle King.

[Ria]

Tinkle King. That's what I was thinking of.

[Fran]

I thought that crow was. Yeah.

[Noah]

All right, well, final question. A chance to send it to overtime. This is to Ran, Fran, Shadow, Allie from North Carolina. What is the name of the showgirl? And Taylor Swift's new song, the Life of a Showgirl.

[Fran]

One's the one song I really have not listened to on repeat.

[Ria]

Say what.

[Noah]

What is the name of the showgirl until Life of the showgirl.

[Ria]

Her name. Oh, her name was Kitty.

[Fran]

Oh, yeah.

[Ad]

Kitty.

[Ria]

Final answer.

[Noah]

Correct.

[Fran]

There we go. It's one of those. Like you're trying to think too hard. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Noah]

All right. Over time. Wow.

[Ria]

Has. That's been a while.

[Noah]

It's been a while.

[Fran]

All right, we're ready.

[Ria]

It's three. It's three questions. You guys start because we started the. The first round. And if it's still tied up, then it's a sudden death setup.

[Fran]

Shootout.

[Ria]

Shootout.

[Noah]

Okay.

[Ad]

Okay.

[Noah]

Question number one of overtime. In the movie the Change up, shout out Bailey from Nashville, Tennessee. In the movie the Change up, who are the two actresses who play Ryan Reynolds and Jason Bateman's love interests?

[Ad]

I know one.

[Fran]

I haven't seen this movie, so I don't wanna.

[Ad]

I don't wanna just say the one because I have no clue who the second one is.

[Fran]

She like, blonde?

[Ad]

Yeah, I think they're both blonde. I haven't seen this movie. I just know Jason Bateman there.

[Noah]

Five seconds.

[Fran]

I don't know.

[Ad]

I don't know the second one.

[Noah]

Okay to re.

[Ad]

No answer.

[Ria]

One of them is Jennifer Aniston. No, I'm thinking of a different movie.

[Fran]

Are you thinking of the breakup?

[Ria]

No, this isn't the change up with the. With the kit. I think she is.

[Noah]

15 seconds.

[Fran]

Is Scarlet Johansson in the Change Up?

[Ria]

Maybe. Maybe it's the both of them. We don't have any other guesses, do we?

[Fran]

Yeah, let's just go. Jennifer Aniston. Scarlett Johansson.

[Ria]

Yep. Final answer.

[Noah]

Neither Leslie man and Olivia Wild.

[Ria]

Olivia Wild.

[Ad]

I thought it was Katherine Heigl.

[Ria]

I won Olivia Wild.

[Fran]

Yes. Because I remember, like that's the first time I've. I seen Olivia Wilde.

[Ria]

I've also never seen that movie.

[Noah]

Okay, question number two of Over Time. It's still tied up at six. Shout out Emma from Billings, Montana, in the King of Queens. What is Carrie's dad's name?

[Fran]

Arthur. Done.

[Ria]

Final answer correct.

[Fran]

That was really easy.

[Noah]

Well, for you, since you watch every day, maybe.

[Fran]

Yeah, I know. I guess if you've never seen it.

[Ria]

Then I saw a very funny option. Funny clip of a random guy in London for the. Like, it was a man on the street for the football games. And it was like these British guys, they were jets fans. And the guy was like, why you jets fans? And they. And the guy goes, we love King of Queens.

[Fran]

Wow. What a fantastic answer.

[Noah]

All right, it is one nothing in overtime. Brian. Fran. This is the third question of overtime to Colleen and Kellyanne. Shout out. Cassidy from long Island. Ellen DeGeneres used to end her talk show every episode with the same line. What was it?

[Fran]

I don't know.

[Ad]

All I have is just keep swimming in my head. But I don't think that's it.

[Fran]

I don't think that's it. But what's that thing just, like, dance off.

[Noah]

Five seconds.

[Fran]

I don't know. Go. Just keep swimming.

[Ad]

Just keep swimming.

[Noah]

Incorrect.

[Ria]

She says, be kind to one another.

[Fran]

Yeah. It's like she's the be kind lady.

[Ria]

It's be kind to one another. Bye. Be kind to one another. I think that's it.

[Fran]

That's how she opens the show.

[Ria]

No, close. Right?

[Fran]

Close, close, close. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Ria]

Final answer correct.

[Fran]

Yeah, because that was. The whole thing is like she kept saying, be kind.

[Andrew]

Yeah.

[Fran]

That's like she was not kind.

[Ria]

Yeah. Be kind to one another.

[Noah]

All right, that wraps it up.

[Fran]

Close game. Close call.

[Ad]

I was really hoping Kitty was not gonna come to you.

[Fran]

Yeah. I'm very happy. It did. It did. Well, thank you guys so much for playing. That was a fantastic game. A close call. Great back and forth. We really appreciate. And even though you lost, you still get merch.

[Ria]

Yes.

[Fran]

So send all your address inside. We'll get that sent to you. And thank you guys so much for playing. That was so fun. Thank you.

[Ria]

Thanks, guys.

[Fran]

Bye. All right, that wraps up today's episode of Chicks in the Office. Thank you so much for watching and listening. Make sure you get those tickets for the tour. And we will see you next week, D.C. @ Franklin hall the night before. And we'll see at the show the next day. We love you guys so very much. Have a wonderful weekend.

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[Fran]

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