West Wilson Talks, Summer House Recap, 'Unwell' Allegations + Odeya Rush Interview

Summary

Chicks in the Office — Episode Summary
(Release Date: April 22, 2026)

Episode Theme Overview This episode of Chicks in the Office is packed with pop culture recaps, discussions of trending entertainment drama, and a heartfelt, funny interview with actress Odeya Rush. Hosts Ria and Fran return to their signature banter, catching up on personal stories, internet drama, the latest drops in reality TV, celebrity social media quirks, and industry scandals. The episode includes a detailed “Summer House” recap with focus on the West Wilson drama and the resulting “unwell” allegations about the Alex Cooper/Matt Kaplan workplace. The show closes with a nostalgic and revealing chat with Odeya Rush about her acting journey, funny childhood acting class stories, and behind-the-scenes memories from working with Hollywood heavyweights.

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Episode Sections & Detailed Highlights

1. Catching Up & Personal Stories (03:00–06:10)

• Fran recaps attending a childhood friend’s wedding, emotionally sharing a touching moment when the bride surprised her mom with a dance (“The Best Day” by Taylor Swift) [02:50].
  • Quote (Fran, 02:54): “My God, I was sobbing like a baby.”
• The hosts jokingly discuss husbands navigating weddings, Jersey Shore party vibes, and signature wedding reception quirks like mini tambourines.
• Quick catch-up on fashion plans and teasing co-host Noah about post-London style improvements.

2. Introduction to the Episode & Odeya Rush (06:35–07:03)

• Ria introduces the forthcoming interview with Odeya Rush, highlighting her impressive résumé (Meryl Streep, Jennifer Aniston, Timothy Chalamet, “Curb Your Enthusiasm”).
  • Quote (Ria, 06:16): “She’s worked with some of the biggest actors literally ever, which is really insane.”

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3. Social Media, Celebrity Fandom & Jonas Brothers Banter (07:41–22:33)

Fandom Levels & Social Media Etiquette

• Extended discussion about fandom, specifically Ria’s journey to becoming a “Joe Jonas Stan,” and the excitement of Joe Jonas commenting on their post [08:08]:
  • Quote (Ria, 08:08): “Joe Joseph Jonas...commented on our post and said, ‘Welcome to the club.’ And my God, was I giddy.”
• Debate: Why don’t the Jonas Brothers follow Chicks in the Office or the hosts back on Instagram?
  • Speculation about celebrity following etiquette—gender, relationships, privacy, and fan expectations.
  • Quote (Fran, 14:15): “Maybe there’s something different about following women. Wow.”
  • Hilarious hypotheticals about what they’d post if followed and the Instagram pressure of being watched by the Jonas Brothers.

Content Creation & Wearing New Outfits

• Ria and Fran talk about the habit of “saving” new outfits for future events, their intentions to break the cycle.
  • Quote (Ria, 23:26): “I’m done saving outfits. I’m just gonna wear the damn thing that I got.”

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4. Major Pop Culture Topics

A. West Wilson & Summer House Drama (26:25–43:03)

• Recap and dissection of West Wilson's podcast apology and relationship timeline [32:20].
  • Discussion of his evasive statements around the Amanda/Sierra timeline and fan skepticism.
  • Quote (Ria, 32:24): “He said it maybe got a little bit more serious in February... if it got more serious in February, then it must have started before February. Or did it start and get serious within the same month?”
• Analysis of the latest Summer House episode: Amanda rides for Sierra, the shifting friendships, and West’s touchy interactions creating blurred lines.
  • Quote (Ria, 35:50): “It is a crazy episode to watch...knowing what’s to come, because you see Ciara be so open... literally broke my heart.”
• Prediction for an awkward reunion, West’s inability to face tough questions, and changing perceptions as new information emerges.
  • Quote (Ria, 40:08): “He’s very uncomfortable with awkwardness. He said that himself.”
• Sidebar: How reality TV reunions shift blame (Kyle Cook’s recurring talent for escaping the hot seat).

B. "Unwell" Allegations: Alex Cooper & Matt Kaplan (46:04–53:07)

• Break-down of the Bloomberg report on “Unwell” and Matt Kaplan’s alleged workplace outbursts.
  • Reporting of on-set threats and the pattern of staff turnover.
  • Quote (Ria, 47:36): “You never want to read the word ‘outbursts’ with that... And then also with the threatening of never working in Hollywood again.”
• Discussion of what makes Barstool’s culture different (Dave Portnoy’s public accountability vs. closed-doors threats at Unwell).
• Questions about why certain Unwell shows don't shine and the realities of podcast network business models.

C. Devil Wears Prada 2 Premiere & Industry Gossip (53:07–55:51)

• Recap of the glamorous NYC premiere: Anne Hathaway, Meryl Streep, Emily Blunt, Paige and Hannah’s cameo, and influencer red carpet fashion.
  • Quote (Fran, 54:47): “Did you see her? It was gorgeous... really, really pretty. Just seem to really like when someone nails the assignment.”
• Reports that Sydney Sweeney’s cameo was cut, segueing into Odeya Rush’s interview discussion about being cut from projects.

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5. Interview: Odeya Rush (56:57–106:52)

Background & Early Career (56:57–62:23)

• Odeya and Ria reminisce on their childhood acting classes (“master class” in a living room, learning about frozen grapes as snacks, being the youngest in a very adult environment).
• Funny and slightly shocking stories: improv strip poker at age 13 on “Curb Your Enthusiasm” [60:00], and the infamous “orgasm with a Clementine” acting exercise [61:48].
  • Quote (Ria, 61:48): “She’s like, okay, so I want you to like eat each piece of the clementine. I want it to be like a bigger and bigger orgasm. And I had to... I’m a child.”
• Odeya’s first major gigs: “Curb Your Enthusiasm” (with Larry Charles/Borat), “Law & Order,” “Odd Life of Timothy Green.”

Hollywood Stories (62:23–80:10)

• Getting big break with “The Giver” (Meryl Streep, Taylor Swift), going to Taylor’s 4th of July Rhode Island party, and the reality of being a “one-sided friend” to Taylor [64:32].
• Working with notable stars:
  • Greta Gerwig on “Lady Bird”: small film turned Oscar hit, Greta’s on-set rituals (music, name tags) [72:57].
  • Jack Black (“Goosebumps”): “He would bring us into his trailer...that, to me, is so cool, that he...didn’t lose that side” [75:46].
  • Ray Liotta: generous and present even on others’ coverage, humility [79:07].
• Audition war stories: being nearly cast as young Mila Kunis, the heartbreak of almost-roles (and child acting gig ghosting).

Acting Industry Real Talk & Directing (80:30–101:11)

• The unpredictability of the acting business—cut scenes (“they just put like a little bit of tree and grass on him”), rejection, and learning not to hype too early.
• The differences between acting in TV and movies, experience shooting horror comedy, and the real emotional effects of gore/shooting at night [80:43–82:32].
• Odeya’s directorial ambitions—her love of making home plays and films, desire to eventually direct her own movie [98:06].

Comedy, Friendships, and Podcasting (101:11–106:52)

• Odeya dreams of comedy roles with the likes of Seth Rogen or Judd Apatow, and discusses the magic of movie comedy eras [91:25, 92:32].
• The blurred line between being “on” as a performer or podcast host, the pressure and rewards of making people laugh, and mutual admiration between Ria, Fran, and Odeya.

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6. Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “You can’t recreate magic twice.” — Ria (07:38)
• “Welcome to the club.” — Joe Jonas in the comments (08:08)
• “It’s a will-they/won’t-they with Joe Jonas and the follow.” — Ria (18:51)
• “You know what? I’m done saving outfits. I’m just gonna wear the damn thing that I got.” — Ria (23:26)
• “He commented on Ciara’s picture ‘holy frick’ in March…[but] it maybe got a little more serious in February.” — Ria, dissecting timeline (32:20)
• “That is a Will they, won’t they?” — Noah (18:51)
• “Why is he so touchy?” — Ria, on West (37:37)
• “You never want to read the word ‘outbursts’... and also with the threatening of never working in Hollywood again.” — Ria, on Unwell/Matt Kaplan (47:36)
• “She just came from a time where at 13 you get married...” — Odeya (62:48)
• “When you do a show, you’re in contract...I’ve never had that where I knew six months out of the year, I’m doing this.” — Odeya (82:44)
• “If you’re able to be entertaining on your own podcast...you’re talented enough to be a comedic actor.” — Odeya (99:34)

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7. Interview Segment Guide (Timestamps)

• Odeya Rush Interview Start: 56:57
  • Early acting class stories (56:57–62:23)
  • Recounting landing major roles/being on “Curb” (59:53–61:41)
  • Acting alongside icons: Taylor Swift, Greta Gerwig, Jack Black, Ray Liotta (62:23–80:10)
  • Industry rejection, margin of luck, handling setbacks (83:12–85:51)
  • Directing aspirations/childhood homemade “films” (98:06)
• Memorable acting class story: [61:48]
• Taylor Swift Rhode Island party: [65:29]
• Jack Black on “Goosebumps”: [75:46]
• Directing/creative ambitions: [98:06–99:19]
• Horror vs. Comedy reflections: [80:33, 91:59]

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8. Tone and Style

The episode is light, witty, self-aware, often self-deprecating, and deeply personal. Signature Chicks in the Office banter blends humor with honest, sometimes heartfelt commentary, especially in stories around fandom, Hollywood friendship, and the less-glamorous side of acting. The Odeya Rush segment is both hilarious and revealing, filled with industry lessons and nostalgia.

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This episode is quintessential Chicks in the Office: frothy, funny, and full of pop culture insight, with plenty of industry tea, exclusive personal stories, and the relatability that hooks loyal listeners.

Transcript

[Fran]

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[Fran]

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[Ria]

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[Fran]

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[Ria]

Exactly. And you can learn [e-mail] Work Happy Wednesday, everybody. How are we feeling on this lovely day?

[Fran]

Wonderful.

[Ria]

Amazing.

[Fran]

I felt like, you know, you miss one episode, it's like, I haven't seen them in so long.

[Ria]

I know.

[Odeya Rush]

Welcome back.

[Fran]

I felt like I was. I was like, damn, I feel like I haven't seen Ri in a while. And it was like three days.

[Ria]

I know. It's been a couple of days. How was the wedding?

[Fran]

Wedding was beautiful. Was so, so nice to see some people I haven't seen in a long time. And my. My beautiful friend Megan, she. She was. She crushed it. She was a great bride. And she. She just had a baby like less than two months ago. So the fact that she did all this incredible. And their family is just the cutest freaking thing ever. And it was so I got to see my parents Were there. And we had an absolute blast venue. It was gorgeous. I was a puddle the whole time. She surprised her mom after she danced with her dad. She surprised her mom and brought her onto the dance floor to dance to the Best Day by Taylor Swift.

[Odeya Rush]

A.

[Fran]

And my God was sobbing like a baby.

[Ria]

Oh, that's so.

[Fran]

And like, they were crying. I was like, oh, my God, I'm crying.

[Ria]

I was like, that's so sweet.

[Fran]

And then I had to explain to my mom. My mom was like, everybody was crying. I'm like, yeah, let's. My friend. That's about her mom had to explain it.

[Ria]

Laura's like, I don't cry like that.

[Fran]

She's like, I don't.

[Ria]

I didn't.

[Fran]

No, it was. It was. It was so, so, so nice. But we had a blast. It's so funny when you're at a wedding where you are like, this is one of my best childhood friends, bridesmaid. My two other friends were, you know, bridesmaids as well. And our husbands really just had to figure. Figure it out on their own. It was like, you guys are, you know, we got a early, early wake up, enjoy the day. Like, you guys figure it out and make sure you're coming to the venue on time, is your shirt ironed, like, all these things.

[Ria]

That's the way it goes.

[Fran]

All these things. And it can be a risk. And I was cracking up because obviously I did not have my phone in my hand, nor did any of the bridesmaids when we came out into the reception and they started to do their dances and all these things. And I'm looking over at our three husbands who have, like, primo real estate, got the best view of the dance, the whole thing. I look at Claire and I'm like, look at these three guys. They got the best view. I know they're taking it all in right now, but, like, what a quick video, Something I finally, like, make eye contact with Joe. I'm like, take a picture, take a picture. So then I was able to get some stuff. But no, it was so much fun. We had a really fun DJ who occasionally DJs at DJs.

[Ria]

Wow. So coming from the Jersey shore, you

[Fran]

know, brought the party.

[Ria]

This was a classic Jersey wedding.

[Fran]

Yeah, we had a. We had a blast. Meg got light up mini handheld tambourines.

[Ria]

Love it.

[Fran]

Real smash hit. Yeah, those are a ton of fun. Beautiful cocktail hour. Cocktail hour wedding. It was gorgeous. It was so, such. Such a fun wedding. And we, I mean, we were like, we were exhausted coming. Coming out of that. But it was so much fun. So loved it.

[Ria]

That's amazing. Well, welcome back. We're happy to have you back. We talked a lot on Monday about clothes and fashion and. Yeah, who's to say? Who's to say what Noah could be coming back as from London.

[Fran]

Are you gonna up your game?

[Noah]

It was discussed, but don't.

[Ria]

Let's not give her anything else.

[Noah]

Yeah, no, like, yeah, we'll do some shopping in London. We'll see.

[Ria]

We'll see what he comes up with. See what happens.

[Fran]

I mean, I expect you to come back and change, man.

[Noah]

No pun intended.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Ria]

On this episode. I recorded an interview on Monday that Fran could not make, but it was with my friend Odeya, who is a lovely actress. She's been in a ton of things and right now she's got a. A show on Hulu that's popping off. And we went to acting class together when we were literally children and we have not seen each other since then. So it was really nice reuniting, reminiscing and we talked a lot. I mean, she's worked with some of the biggest actors literally ever, which is really insane. And we were just.

[Noah]

I didn't say it either. That Curbing Enthusiasm episode that she did was like. That's one of the all time episodes too.

[Ria]

Yeah, it's such a good episode. And she's just been in. So like, she just worked with some of the biggest actors ever, like Meryl Streep, Timothy Chalamet, Jennifer Aniston. She's been on Curb your Enthusiasm. Like she has quite the resume. So it was really fun going down like memory lane with her. So that's on this episode as well. And yeah, I don't really have anything

[Fran]

else to listen to that.

[Ria]

You know, it's been one day since yesterday. I haven't really done. I haven't really done much. Trying to think of anything else I can catch you up on. I talked about, you know, and I'll just be repeating myself. Talked about the weekend, but dinner with Matt, we had a great dinner. I was pissed that the waiter suggested charred vegetables. You know, I already talked about this on the podcast.

[Fran]

So I don't need to want to repeat.

[Ria]

I don't need to repeat the whole thing.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Noah]

Well, we can tune into Monday's episode.

[Fran]

Yeah, we can talk off. Listen. We can talk offline.

[Ria]

It's a Monday's episode and you can hear what I have to say about it.

[Fran]

I know, but sometimes it's like when you listen, it's like I get angry.

[Odeya Rush]

Cause that.

[Fran]

Because I have questions.

[Odeya Rush]

Oh.

[Fran]

Like, if I was there, I would have had questions for you.

[Ria]

You have my number.

[Fran]

Yeah, no, I know.

[Ria]

You can listen and text me.

[Fran]

That's what I'm saying. I have to, like, I'd rather just offline you. You can tell me again to my face.

[Ria]

You're right, I do. I didn't give you a review. I have to give you a review.

[Noah]

There have been times where, like, I talk about something on the podcast and then I'm talking to my parents, like, on the phone, and they're like, like, oh, how was it? I'm like, just listen to the podcast. Like, I already told the story.

[Ria]

You're like, I'm tired, Mom.

[Fran]

I couldn't possibly tell it again.

[Ria]

Please, you can't recreate magic twice.

[Fran]

The only thing I'll ask was Matt Surpr.

[Ria]

He was very surprised and very happy. Thrilled. All week I kept asking him where he thought we were going, and he kept naming two places, and this was one of them. So it was. It was great surprise. He was very happy. But I did not talk about Joe Jonas on Monday. Actually saved it for you to come back. So last week I went on my whole, like, I'm a Joe Jonas, Stan. I'm coming out. It's a whole thing. Joe himself, Joe Joseph Jonas.

[Fran]

Adam.

[Ria]

Jonas Adam. I was gonna say Andrew Joseph Adam Jonas commented on our post and said, welcome to the club. It was. It was like a meme gif thing. And he said, welcome to the club. And my God, was I giddy. Because when he commented that I like

[Noah]

that you don't act like you've met him so many times and, like, hosted Jonah's, I kept.

[Fran]

He commented. I kept laughing because in my mind I'm like, is Joe seeking these clips and being like, damn, all the shit we did before this? Does she just not like me?

[Ria]

Here's the thing. I think it's, like, levels to this shit, right? Like your love. There's a. Oh, there you go. It's a Jonas song.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Ria]

I think that there's levels, right? I have always been a fan of the Jonas Brothers. I've always been a massive fan of the Jonas Brothers. On my childhood bedroom wall, I wrote with pen. I heart Jonas Brothers. But then pen or pencil, I don't know what it was, but I know I wrote it on my wall and I know that was a no, no. But then you meet someone who is in is an actual humongous fan that makes you think, oh, my God, I don't even know what being a fan Is really like, right. So then it's kind of like, you know, I like the Jonas Brothers.

[Fran]

You.

[Ria]

You kind of. You lower it a little bit because you're like, oh, my God, she's really a fan. Like, she's really, really a big fan. You know, like a little scary. So I'm talking about you. So.

[Fran]

No, I know.

[Ria]

I'm not arguing. I mean, I'm taking it.

[Fran]

I actually, you know, I said nothing because I have nothing to say. You're right.

[Ria]

Right. So it's like, oh, whoa, whoa.

[Odeya Rush]

Okay.

[Ria]

This level of fandom, I don't know. So I've always been a fan. But I've also had criticism for them as well as you naturally do. It had it hadn't reached Stan level. I reached stand level with Joe recently where it's like, all the things are clicking.

[Fran]

They're all, yeah.

[Ria]

And on Friday, firing on all. Yeah, on Friday, I'm like, oh, shit. Matt put on the type in Joe Jonas put on the vlogs. He's like, joe Jonas is doing vlogs now. And honestly, we laughed because he had a new one up and it was like an hour had been up and it said like 4k views. And Matt was like, oh, my God, he's doing me numbers.

[Fran]

He was like, what's going on here?

[Ria]

Which was funny. But I'm like, oh, let's watch the vlogs. And as we're watching the vlogs, you texted me, new vlog drop. I said, honey, I'm already watching. I'm already on it. And as we're watching the vlogs, there's a new one. There is a new one. There's more. He just can't stop vlogging. But we're watching the vlogs. And you know, I'm just like, you smiling at your ear. I'm like, this guy's great, right? Matt? He's great.

[Odeya Rush]

He's like, yeah, whatever. He's like.

[Ria]

But, you know, it's kind of wild. Like, it was almost like Matt was being like a. Like an online troll, where he's like, where's his kids? Like, he was like, wow, all these videos back to back to back. Where's his kids at? I'm like, clearly, he's got off.

[Odeya Rush]

Yeah, it's.

[Ria]

This is what.

[Fran]

It's mom time.

[Ria]

This is what they do in Hollywood. Mom's got them and. And dads got things to do. And then they figure it out. And they have it figured out.

[Fran]

It's like co parent shaming.

[Odeya Rush]

No, no, no.

[Ria]

And it's I said, this is co parenting in Hollywood. I think they go, like, weeks at a time rather than like, days, you know, because, like, in normie life, I think people just go days. Like, you get Tuesdays and Fridays and I get the rest of the week.

[Fran]

Sophie keeps the kids in the, like, in the uk.

[Ria]

Right, right. But I'm talking, like, normie shit, where

[Fran]

it's like, oh, for sure. You swap Wednesdays and every other weekend.

[Ria]

Yes, exactly. Hollywood couples, they don't do that. It's like months.

[Fran]

They got. They've got very unique setups.

[Ria]

So now we're going to this whole thing. I'm like, you know what? I totally forgot he had kids. I said, wow, you got me. I totally forgot he had kids. You're so right. And then two. Yeah, two of them, not just one.

[Noah]

Like, pretty old at this point, right?

[Ria]

They're growing up.

[Fran]

Yeah, Yeah. I mean, they're not that old.

[Noah]

They're older than Nick Jonas'. Like, they're the oldest. Other than Kevin.

[Ria]

Well, yeah, they're growing up. But Joe's vlogs are entertaining. And they're like, it's not high stress, you know, it's easy lift. Oh, easy, easy lift to watch.

[Fran]

It's a little giggle. They're short.

[Ria]

As we're watching, I'm like, holy, this is so meta. He's commenting on the video of me

[Fran]

and I'm watching him. I'm watching him right now.

[Ria]

Not to be creepo, but I'm literally watching him.

[Fran]

I'm watching your vlogs right now, bro. Yeah.

[Ria]

I was so fucking giddy. And Matt brought up a good point. He was like, they don't follow you guys. And I was like, that's such a good point. He was like, I. I feel like they should follow you guys. You guys show them so much support, you know? And I'm like, you're so right. Like, I went to Joe's following because I was like, does he not even follow chicks in the office? Like, he's just scoping. He's just stalking.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Ria]

You know, he, like, keeps tabs on us. Yeah, he doesn't follow. Like, that's fucked up. He follows, like, Jake Shane. And I'm like, oh, he doesn't follow chicks in the office. He doesn't follow me. He doesn't follow you.

[Fran]

Not surprised by that.

[Ria]

At least follow chicks in the office, though, bro. Like, it's. It's honestly offensive. So I was like, wow, Matt, you don't. Kevin. Kevin doesn't follow chicks in the office. Check his following Right. I know. Sure as hell Nick doesn't.

[Fran]

But that's what I'm saying. Like, I. I don't following.

[Ria]

I don't.

[Noah]

Franklin, you guys go way back.

[Ria]

We do.

[Noah]

I'm like 2019.

[Ria]

That's what Matt was saying. He was like, I just can't believe they don't follow you. And I was like, are you trying to get me against Joe right now?

[Odeya Rush]

Because it kind of feels like you're

[Ria]

trying to get me against Joe. It ain't gonna happen, buddy.

[Noah]

How many people does he follow in total?

[Fran]

Joe, Guys? I don't think so.

[Ria]

A good amount. You're telling me Kevin Jonas does not follow us.

[Noah]

Wait, doesn't you guys like dm, don't you?

[Fran]

That doesn't mean anything with following. We.

[Ria]

I don't think we've ever DMed Joe. Oh, Kevin. You've DM'd Kevin.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Ria]

You lucky bitch.

[Fran]

He does not. Like.

[Noah]

What would you guys have to do to get a follow at this point? There's nothing left.

[Ria]

There's nothing. I mean.

[Fran]

I mean, directly to his face.

[Ria]

This. I guess put out a video of us being like, hey, Kevin, why don't you.

[Fran]

Because he follows barstool sports. That's it.

[Ria]

Okay, well, he follows. He follows comments by celebs. Those are our good pals. Like, okay.

[Fran]

Yep.

[Ria]

Let's see. Joe Jonas is. Yeah, they all follow Jake Shane.

[Fran]

Yeah, that's. What's the person.

[Ria]

You guys are people.

[Fran]

I. I know, I know, but I don't know, I think they. I think there's something different about, like, following women. Wow.

[Ria]

Oh, you know. Oh, you think it's a no fly zone.

[Noah]

But Joe has been single.

[Ria]

Well, he's. No, he has a girlfriend now. No, I know, but I guess, I mean, I don't know.

[Noah]

Relationship. You can't follow another woman.

[Fran]

Nick Jonas follows 552 accounts.

[Ria]

Listen, I never thought we'd get a follow from Nick, but I'm not putting him in the discussion. I'm on Kevin and Joe.

[Fran]

Nick.

[Ria]

I won't even dare. It's like, we know we're not getting that. It's probably. Does he follow Jake Shane too? Yeah, he does. Of course he does. Oh, Nick follows foreplay.

[Fran]

Okay.

[Ria]

Foreplay.

[Fran]

Pot. Yeah, he's in the mix.

[Ria]

He's okay. Okay. Why?

[Noah]

He's gonna follow Trent before you?

[Fran]

Well, you know, at least we have Frankie.

[Ria]

Franklin follows us. He's gonna be Frank now.

[Fran]

Yeah. Franklin follows both of us.

[Ria]

Damn.

[Fran]

Individually.

[Ria]

Oh, that's really sweet.

[Fran]

Yes.

[Ria]

Nice. All right, well, thank you.

[Fran]

But Nick, Kevin Joe. No, not. Nope.

[Ria]

And here's the thing.

[Fran]

Maybe they're like all these pop culture posts. We don't give a. Also, they don't want to see videos of us talking about them.

[Noah]

But if they followed your personals, they're not going to get that. That's just.

[Odeya Rush]

Yeah, but I would. I would act.

[Fran]

I have no qualms with them not following my.

[Ria]

I would never.

[Noah]

You wouldn't want to be like, wow, look.

[Ria]

No.

[Odeya Rush]

I mean,

[Fran]

I would never expect.

[Ria]

This is what they're gonna get from me. They're gonna get a bikini pick. They're gonna get pictures of me and Matt. They're gonna get some food. Yeah.

[Fran]

It's like, I can see. I wouldn't be. I. Like, there's nothing that I'm posting on my personal. I would think, like Joe Jonas is dying to say. I was just thinking by Sephora sale. Rex. Like I say, chicks in the office. Maybe chicks in the office.

[Noah]

They're friends with Glen Powell. He has no problem following you.

[Ria]

So true. Well, Glenn. Yeah. But Glenn, let me tell you. I mean, Glenn's the goat.

[Odeya Rush]

Yeah.

[Ria]

And I don't have never. I actually have never said those words in my life.

[Noah]

Go.

[Odeya Rush]

Sorry.

[Fran]

Glenn Powell is just a man of the people. And also he legitimately. A thousand plus more people than both like Kevin and.

[Ria]

Okay. But here's the thing. Back to Glenn Powell.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Ria]

And me calling him the goat. I've never called anybody the goat in my life.

[Noah]

He's goated.

[Ria]

Those words have never come out.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Ria]

Until this very moment. And it was like almost as if I was savoring this moment to use it on someone really special. Yeah. And that special somebody is Glenn Powell.

[Fran]

Uhhuh.

[Ria]

You seem uninterested.

[Fran]

No, no, I'm. I. I was. I was back in. Because you know what always surprises me is when they follow us. But not.

[Noah]

Yeah. That's.

[Ria]

That's more rare Chicks in the office.

[Noah]

It's usually the other way around.

[Fran]

You know, like Glenn. Glenn's is giving us the nod on a personal level because we're friendly with Glenn.

[Ria]

I know.

[Odeya Rush]

I know.

[Ria]

Because we actually like. Glenn is like. No, I would consider Glenn a friend. No.

[Fran]

Glenn is it. Glenn is a pal.

[Ria]

Yeah. He is.

[Fran]

For sure.

[Ria]

Glenn is a pal.

[Fran]

Yeah. When I go up to. I'm still. I'm still unsure if I'm like annoying them. When I go say hi to the Josh brothers.

[Ria]

Yeah. And I don't feel that way about Glenn at all. I think I could walk up to Glenn.

[Fran]

No issue at any point. No issue.

[Ria]

No issue.

[Noah]

Glenn follows Project Big Screen.

[Fran]

Glenn is a man of the people.

[Ria]

Listen, Glenn gets it. And at a later date we could talk about this. Glen Powell just fucking. Yeah, he gets it. Okay.

[Noah]

Anyways, so should we clip this out and, like, call Joe?

[Fran]

No, no, because. Because that's annoying. Like, I'm not, you know, because here's the thing. If somebody did this to me, where they were, like, I'd met them a couple times and then they were like, fran doesn't fucking follow me. I'd be like, yeah. Cause I didn't want to, you know, like, it's like if I did. Like, if I. If I did, I'd follow and that.

[Ria]

And fair. Like, if they were like, hey, I just don't want to. Like, fine.

[Fran]

I know.

[Ria]

You know, that's what I'm saying. I would be more just. I understood.

[Fran]

That was to Noah being like, should we make a video? Us being like, you guys don't follow us.

[Ria]

I understand he's trying to get some content. Yeah. Hey, he's a producer, Clearly.

[Noah]

Hey, if you make that video, he's going to see it clearly.

[Ria]

The thing with Joe is I can't handle that, though.

[Fran]

Like, then it's like, if it feels like a double stab in the heart, I feel like he already hasn't followed. Then we'll make a video about him not following. He'll see it and then still not.

[Ria]

I feel like this just got a little bit deeper than I was intending. Like, this, like, this was all supposed to be like, jokey, jokey.

[Fran]

We are joking.

[Ria]

It feels like it's getting way deeper.

[Fran]

I'm joking. I'm saying it would. It would be another level of like, aw. If we were like, he doesn't follow us. And then he saw the video and like, commented, hahaha. Or something, and then still didn't follow.

[Ria]

You know what would happen? That's a good.

[Noah]

Like, will he. Right?

[Ria]

It's a Will they, won't they?

[Noah]

Yeah.

[Ria]

You know what would happen, though, if we caught a follow from them? Personally, I would watch my stories over and over and over again in the eye lens as if I'm a Jonas brother. Right? Like when. When Joe commented on that video. You know how many times I rewatched that video being like, this is what Joe saw. And I. And I had to like, you know, you ever do that? Like, you were like, oh, oh, this is. You ever look at your Instagram page after someone follows you and you go, oh, this is what they saw when they followed me. You know, it's It's a lot of pressure to know if the brothers are gonna be, like, clicking your story.

[Fran]

Yeah. And you know now also, too, Noah's

[Ria]

posting so many stories for, like, one specific person.

[Fran]

When you follow a new person on Instagram, the algorithm, like, pushes their stories to the front. It's like, if I follow a new person, they're the first. If they post a story, I'm watching it so ridiculously fast because they push it to the front of the. To the front of the line.

[Ria]

I honestly have no shame with story watching. Like, I'll watch anybody's story within 0.2 seconds. I will.

[Noah]

You feel like.

[Ria]

No, I don't.

[Fran]

Everyone like, the story I watch that fast is probably yours.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Odeya Rush]

No, your.

[Ria]

I watch it immediately.

[Fran]

Like, it's the first thing that pops up if it's right at the front.

[Ria]

I'm watching.

[Fran]

You're. You're always my. And here. And, like, if you post, you're my first one.

[Ria]

I also have no shame.

[Fran]

Tell me I'm your first one.

[Ria]

I'm your first one.

[Fran]

Tell me I'm your first.

[Ria]

Oh, you're my first one. I promise you're my first one. I looked at all of your Sephora wrecks last night. You were my first one. One. I'm watching you like a hawk. I will say, I also have no shame in the game of not following somebody and clicking their story and watching. Like, if I don't follow.

[Fran]

Yeah, I do that too.

[Ria]

If I don't follow, like, famous could be, like, anything. Yeah, it's like, I'm just gonna watch their story.

[Fran]

Right. Because there's also, like, a risk of you never know what kind of person, what kind of person they are when it comes to looking at who's viewing their own stories. Because there's the type of people who go through the entire list of, like, who's looking at their stories. And some people just don't look at all, like, this post, and it's like, that's gone. It's gone. They don't really look at all. So you could watch someone's story. Be like, they'll never know.

[Ria]

I watch this. I just don't care even if they knew that I did.

[Fran]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Ria]

I went to go look. I don't know.

[Fran]

Yeah, I was looking.

[Ria]

I heard something was interesting, by the way.

[Fran]

You could also see, especially when there's somebody with a following or, like, whatever, when we're. You have these, like, professional dashboards. It's like, okay, I have X amount of followers. Instagram is Telling me my profile has been looked at 14 million times this month.

[Ria]

Right. There are people that are looking that don't follow.

[Fran]

That do not follow. Yeah, but they're looking. Hey, if you ever toss me a follow, I'll take it. Yeah, please. But that's what always cracks me up, is like, they give you Jonas Brothers. They give you that massive number, and then it's like, damn, none of them are following her.

[Ria]

I guess it wasn't interesting enough to be fair. We're not like big posties.

[Fran]

We're really not on Instagram. We're really. We're really not.

[Ria]

We probably should be better.

[Fran]

We should be better. But hence, why full circle? Like, am I. Am I. I actually would prefer maybe if they didn't follow my personal. Because I wouldn't really be able to live my life. Joe Jonas.

[Ria]

Oh, you're talking about the Jonas Brothers. Yeah. No. And it's a lot of pressure.

[Fran]

Every picture of Olive I post, I'd be like, yo, but Joe, is this a cute picture of all enough? Like, what if Joe sees it?

[Ria]

Joe would eat that up.

[Fran]

No, he would. He would.

[Ria]

He'd be like, that's a mad cute picture. Really cute dog.

[Odeya Rush]

I don't know.

[Fran]

Yeah, you're missing out on really cute pictures.

[Ria]

Missing out on cute pictures. I don't know how much to wear. I might step up my content game in Italy.

[Fran]

You obviously should. Vacation is the time to do that.

[Ria]

Like, hey, like, with, like, wine drunk.

[Fran]

This is me.

[Odeya Rush]

Well, you'll have.

[Fran]

You'll have pictures, video, like, outfits. There's just so much more to film and post when you're on vacation than there is your day to day.

[Ria]

Many outfits. I got so many outfits. But here's what happens with me when I get to the location, I go, me, I just want to be comfy tonight. And I told you, Matt, this yesterday. I said, I got so many cute outfits. Yeah. If you hear me say one night that I just want to be comfy and I'm not dressing up, remind me of this conversation that we're having. And remind me that I said I wanted to wear my cute outfits. Yeah. Because I do that. Where I'm like, nah, you know what? I'll save this outfit. I'm done saving. This is a new thing that I'm working on. I'm done saving outfits.

[Fran]

Yep.

[Ria]

I'm just gonna wear the damn thing that I got.

[Fran]

I do it all the time.

[Ria]

You do.

[Fran]

And then you always sen. You're like, I bought this two years ago. I never wore it. You Send me a picture of it. I'm like, we've had so many things. You could have worn that too.

[Ria]

It's ridiculous.

[Fran]

There's so many times you could have put that dress on. It's so cute. Why haven't you worn it?

[Ria]

No, it's. It's so stupid. I am literally a whore for saving outfits and not wearing them. Even the simplest. I got a new pair of track pants the other day.

[Odeya Rush]

Okay.

[Ria]

They're track pants. They're not.

[Fran]

Yeah, they're just.

[Ria]

Where were they from, dairy boy?

[Fran]

Oh, they're just track post I've ever seen. I liked.

[Ria]

No, no, these are like. They're like sport.

[Fran]

They're like.

[Ria]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Fran]

That true.

[Ria]

Athletic track pants. Okay. I said, I looked. Them are brand new. I said, I'm going to save these. And then I said, why the fuck? Yeah, what am I saving these for? I'm going to wear them on Saturday

[Odeya Rush]

morning to go get a cup of coffee.

[Ria]

Because why? It's like I'm always saving my.

[Fran]

The complete opposite. Like, when I. When new clothes are being purchased, I want to wear them all immediately.

[Ria]

Yeah. That's what I should be doing. Instead, I'm just re wearing old outfits all the time when I have. I have new clothes that need to be seen.

[Fran]

Yep.

[Ria]

Yep. I got this one dress that I got last summer from Rag and Bone. Who doesn't see the light in.

[Fran]

My God, have I heard about this Rag and Bone dress one more time? The amount of times Ria's texted me, I think I might wear the Rag and Bone dress. I know exactly what the dress is. The dress has still not been worn.

[Ria]

Still not.

[Fran]

I'm like, shows, events, whatever. She's like, could this be the night for the rag and bow dress?

[Ria]

And it's the most simple dress. And the amount of times I've texted Fran that I'm wearing this dress and I don't.

[Fran]

And then you don't.

[Ria]

It's in the suitcase, packed.

[Fran]

Oh, good.

[Ria]

Thank God it's there. It'll depend on the weather. I don't know. It's like more of like a summer thing. Who knows? I got it last summer. I still haven't worn it.

[Fran]

Yep.

[Ria]

God. And it fits my body just right. But still, I just can't. I. I'm. This is a. This is a lesson.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Ria]

That I am teaching myself right now. Yeah.

[Fran]

You know, I get. I just get it in the sense of.

[Ria]

Did you just wear the thing where

[Fran]

you want to wear, like, the dress has to match the event.

[Ria]

Right. No, for sure. But there's even like, shirts. I'm like, oh, save this.

[Odeya Rush]

What are you saving it for?

[Ria]

Live your life.

[Fran]

Oh, yeah, you're right. You're right. You're saving it for life. There's no reason today, tomorrow, next week, there's no reason track pants should be saved.

[Ria]

Know, like a.

[Fran]

A nice dress. I'll. Okay, sure.

[Ria]

No track pants.

[Fran]

A new pair of track pants. Wear them.

[Ria]

Cuz I was like, I'll wear these for recording one day. I could rewear them.

[Fran]

Yeah, yeah, you could.

[Ria]

I wore them on Saturday. I'll rewear them probably the week we come back. Yeah. All right.

[Odeya Rush]

Okay.

[Fran]

I'm looking forward to it.

[Ria]

Sorry. I know. I know that there are people out there that can relate to this sort of thing where you get. So you go, oh, I saving this. I'm saving this.

[Odeya Rush]

I'm saving this.

[Fran]

Of course. Especially if it's a high, like a higher ticket number, you know, you're like. But it's meant to be worn and meant to be seen.

[Ria]

So, yeah, I'm excited for that. Leaving tomorrow. All right, let's get into the rest of the show. We are going to be talking about Wes apology or not apology. I mean, apology.

[Fran]

It was just like, I think he couldn't really keep recording his podcast. Not addressing it.

[Ria]

Yeah. I don't know why I worded it as apology.

[Fran]

Yeah, there's no, like.

[Ria]

No, it was a statement. Yeah. Addressing West.

[Fran]

West Talks.

[Ria]

West Talks.

[Fran]

Yeah, he'll rename that.

[Ria]

He could rename the podcast if you. West talks on his podcast.

[Noah]

West Pouts.

[Fran]

West Pouts.

[Ria]

Who's West?

[Noah]

No, I'm saying West Pouts.

[Ria]

Who's.

[Fran]

Was he pouting?

[Noah]

Yeah, he was pouting the whole time. Oh, I'm not saying it's a person. Why are you saying who's West? Pout?

[Fran]

No, because I just. I just like, did. I haven't heard anyone big like he was pouting.

[Noah]

Yeah, he was like, trying to. Like, that's everything I'm seeing online is like, look at him. Like, why?

[Fran]

We're like, west.

[Noah]

Who's West Bouts? Who's West?

[Ria]

I just, I got really stuck there. Like, my brain, like, I kept going like this, like, who's West Bouts? Yeah, yeah. Like, I'm like, I was twitching.

[Odeya Rush]

Yeah.

[Ria]

I just. I like, I guess it was a bad joke.

[Fran]

Well, you know, Wes talks was a

[Ria]

callback to Jed Talks.

[Fran]

To Jed talks.

[Noah]

Yeah.

[Ria]

And I feel like.

[Fran]

And then Noah was like, more like Wes Pouts because he's all Mr. Pouty Pants.

[Noah]

I was like, I Literally just saw a meme just now.

[Ria]

Oh, so you took a meme?

[Noah]

No, it's been like, everyone be like, this is classic West. Like, he's gonna cry, like, and try to make people feel bad for him.

[Fran]

I don't really think he was doing any of that. He was just, like, being evasive.

[Ria]

He was like, someone just said he

[Noah]

was doing the Ariana Grande.

[Ria]

Like, this is pouty.

[Fran]

No, no, for sure.

[Noah]

Just take it out of me, guys. Not her.

[Ria]

West Pout. I. That one's gonna stick with me. I don't know. I don't know what happened there. I don't know who's West.

[Fran]

West Pouts could be a name.

[Ria]

I was thinking of, like, Will Poulter. Yeah, right. I don't know why I was like, west Pouts. What is this? What is this deep layered joke I'm not getting? Turns out, it was, like, a pretty surface level joke.

[Fran]

Wesley Snipes.

[Ria]

He was just saying that. Wes Pouts.

[Fran]

Yeah, he's just saying he was pouting, that's all. And you know what? He was pouting, so. All right.

[Ria]

Ground Baking.

[Noah]

Ground baking. We're ground baking.

[Fran]

We're baking from the ground up.

[Noah]

That's actually a pretty good name, like, for a show. Like, welcome to Ground Baking.

[Fran]

For baking.

[Noah]

Like, for a baking show or something.

[Fran]

Yeah, it would.

[Odeya Rush]

As it is.

[Noah]

Yeah.

[Fran]

Baking shows. Love baking puns, so. Oh, my God.

[Ria]

Making puns.

[Fran]

Baking bake. Did I say baking puns? That's the pun in itself.

[Ria]

Were you saying baking shows, like baking puns, or were you saying they like making puns?

[Fran]

No, I meant to say they like baking puns.

[Ria]

You said that.

[Fran]

Like puns about baking.

[Ria]

Oh, okay. I thought you were like, oh, baking shows, like making pies.

[Fran]

No, I meant specifically about baking.

[Ria]

Got it.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Ria]

Ground baking.

[Fran]

They like making buns.

[Ria]

It's. Come in here. Come on. Right here, right here. Knuckle sandwich.

[Fran]

Did you see who won toc?

[Ria]

I did.

[Fran]

I was. I was happy.

[Ria]

Yo, Me too. Although proud of him. My guy. I was really upset about the round before.

[Fran]

On which side?

[Ria]

Both.

[Odeya Rush]

Both?

[Ria]

Oh, yeah.

[Fran]

Like, yeah, yeah.

[Ria]

Jet.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Ria]

And Kenny. Yeah, I wanted them. No, I was.

[Fran]

I was very upset for Jet. I mean, you know, this poor guy.

[Ria]

I ended up like Duke.

[Fran]

It really is loses in the end. So upsetting because he, like. And he. He's like, I'll go home, you know, I'll talk to my wife. I'll cry, I'll go to therapy, and then I'll come back and do it all over again. It's like, oh, what a vicious cycle this guy's in. Can't make it past the Final Four.

[Ria]

No. No, he can't.

[Fran]

Seven seasons later, it's tough. At what point did they just rig it for him?

[Ria]

You know, I thought this was the year.

[Fran]

I thought this was the year, too.

[Ria]

The way they were talking it totally.

[Fran]

I really did. I said. I said the same to Joe. I was like, I just feel like this is the organ that they're gonna set it up for.

[Ria]

Jet and. Nope, nope. Not quite. Well, anyways, west pouting. Yeah. Alex Cooper is apparently the new Ellen DeGeneres.

[Fran]

Is.

[Ria]

Is she the Ellen or is Matt Kaplan the Ellen?

[Fran]

It might be. And Alex could be one of. One of the sidekicks that was on, you know, Porsche.

[Ria]

Yeah, they're modern day Portia and Ellen.

[Fran]

Ellen. Yep.

[Ria]

And Sydney Sweeney was cut from Devil Wears Prada. And we got big premiere in New York, which was fabulous. People were looking fab. And we have the interview with Odea. So let's get into it.

[Fran]

It's time to talk about some game day vibes for a second because Truly is fully in their era right now. They're the official hard seltzer of US Soccer, which honestly just makes sense. And they've got these packs that are perfect for watching with friends, like the Star Squad Pack and the Wild Berry. So many good flavors, and it's just easy. You bring it and everyone's happy. The flavors are super refreshing, very fruity, very drinkable, and you're not getting that heavy feeling after a couple of. It's only 100 calories and 1 gram of sugar, so you can actually hang. Keep watching, keep chatting, keep everything going. And we love that there's so much variety because not everyone wants the same thing. And Truly just always has all the options. It's kind of the ideal thing to show up when you're watching a game or just hanging out. We got a big summer coming up, so maybe you're going to some watch parties. Hanging out with Friends, the official hard Seltzer of U.S. soccer, to cheer them on and get going. So grab a Truly Star Squad pack or a Wild Berry pack for your next Watch party and keep the vibes going.

[Ria]

West Pouts, period. That's all I have to say.

[Fran]

West Pouts.

[Ria]

So he went on his podcast and he addressed the situation. He said, and this is what people are stuck on. And I'm sort of stuck on this as well. Yeah, girl Boss Town made a video and was like, I need this specifically addressed at the reunion. He said, it maybe Got a little bit more serious in February, but he also said that it started in February. So people are like, okay, well, if it got more serious in February, then it must have started before February. Or did it start and get serious within the same month? On top of that, Amanda and Sierra did watch what happens live together in February. The super bowl was in February. All of these things adding up. He commented on Ciara's picture. Holy frick. In March. It's like. It's an. It's just the timeline is obviously they got to get their story straight before they go to the reunion, but hitting it with a maybe got a little bit more serious in February. But also saying it started in February. That's why what people are stuck on adamant.

[Fran]

There's no overlap. Like, he started being like, I want to 100 say there was no overlap. Right. Everyone was single.

[Ria]

And I. I do believe everyone was single. But I think when you say that something maybe got more serious in February, people are like, well, if it got more serious in February, did something happen before February? Because what. Because did start and get serious in the same month, then like, yeah, he needs.

[Fran]

He needs to clarify that statement. Because is it like, oh, Amanda moved out and started going out more and they were all hanging out as, like, friends, so maybe they were getting closer and then in February they hooked up and things.

[Ria]

Well, you're giving.

[Fran]

Escalated.

[Ria]

You're giving him the script now.

[Fran]

Yeah, I am.

[Ria]

Yeah, I am.

[Fran]

I am.

[Ria]

You know, yeah.

[Fran]

Imagine he's like, so after Amanda moved out, we started hanging out together a lot as friends, and then one night, things just took a turn. But yeah, that's. That's definitely where there's everywhere. People want some clarification? He said Amanda's phone number somehow got leaked. She's. He said she's taken the brunt of it more than him. It should be him, not her. Someone texted her. She's a home wrecking core. Which is factually inaccurate.

[Ria]

Right.

[Fran]

That's.

[Ria]

That, you know, name calling doesn't fit this.

[Fran]

Yeah. However, like, you know, terrible friend, treasonous friends. Yes, absolutely. Yeah. Like, going behind. Oh, and we watched this week's Summer House, which you guys all. It's aired Tuesday night, so we. Spoiler bit. You know, I think literally everyone's watching Summerhouse live right now, but if you're not, this is from Tuesday's episode. It's crazy to see these three talk. Like. And I know Andy's been teasing the episodes and he was talking about this when he's like, watch this with one eye. Open like and you're like yeah, you're cringing the whole time because Amanda's like riding so hard for Sierra at the beginning. The episode starts and she's like you don't get the respect that you deserve from people. Like people do not respect you enough. And it's like my lord, the call is coming from inside the house. It is like it's was crazy, crazy, crazy, crazy, crazy crazy to watch. And it only got crazier watching Sierra really open up to west at the end of the episode. They cry like basically are crying together.

[Ria]

It is a crazy episode to watch. Just from now the lens of knowing what happened because even Wes and Amanda meet like meet up and have a conversation about what he's doing to Ciara. And Amanda seems genuinely upset for Sierra

[Fran]

and like conflicted because she's like you're being so nice to me as a friend but like why can't you treat Ciara with that same respect right?

[Ria]

And to see her go so hard for Ciara and you're like wait, but how did this turn into that? And then to watch the conversation between Ciara and West and what would maybe be an incredibly heartwarming scene to watch has now turned into a heart wrenching scene. Knowing what's to come because you see Ciara be so open. She's like can we just go back to being best friends? Literally broke my heart.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Ria]

He's like I'll be your best friend tomorrow. Big fat hug. And then we see the trailer for next week and it seems like things get flirty again. She's kiss, he's kissing. West is like the touchiest guy of all time. I'm sorry I talked about this on Monday. It's like in no world.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Ria]

It like this man is so touchy.

[Fran]

It's crazy.

[Ria]

He's got always grabbing the women's hair, kissing their foreheads and it's like whatever. But anyways so that we got.

[Fran]

It's just so hard to be friends with someone like Sierra. It's. It's got to be so it was had to have been so hard for Sierra because she wanted to put up a boundary with him. She finally lets it down, is like I do want to be friends. However the way that Wes shows friendship can be really misinterpreted. And so it's like she had these feelings for Wes that are obviously like still kind of there. So it's like oh, if Wes is in the mindset of now like ah, I can go back to like being my touchy friendly self. Like I do with all the other girls. With Sierra, it's like it just sends mixed signals and it's inappropriate.

[Ria]

Why is he so touchy?

[Fran]

I don't know, but he clearly does. I mean, he's fucking pulling Bailey's hair. I don't know. He's rubbing them all. It's just. It seems the way. Seems like he's a touchy guy.

[Ria]

He's just very touchy. It's weird, but I. I feel like now we're seeing a trailer and then we see, like, Amanda get worked up in the trailer about.

[Odeya Rush]

Yeah.

[Ria]

Them going more. Being more than friends.

[Fran]

So, like, yeah. All of a sudden it was like she wanted to be friends. Then she was like, does it seem like it's moving too fast?

[Ria]

Right.

[Fran]

Which is fair. Like, she could definitely be concerned for her friend at that time. It just is bonkers that it moved at the pace that it did. I think unintentionally there are some things that really make you scratch your for, like, that really make you think. Because it probably wasn't that way. But in this different lens, it changes everything. Like Amanda not showing up this weekend and the show is like, oh, if none of this happened, it would have been so clear. Like, the Kyle stuff's catching up to her. She's put on this big fake I'm a good wife smile, even though she's miserable. And, like, that would have been the conversation. But because of this, it's like, oh, was there something going on? And she didn't want to be around west and Sierra, so.

[Ria]

Right. That's what the conversation is.

[Fran]

It makes you question absolutely everything. And my God, my. I. My heart hurt for Sarah talking to us like that because I was like, here she's finally being vulnerable, and they're having this conversation that they have needed to have for a while and being honest to each other and sharing their feelings and, like, seemed to get to a good place. And bam. He even went to Ciara's birthday.

[Ria]

He did. We talked about that on Monday. My heart really does break for Ciara. And watching last night's episode was just incredibly uncomfortable and sort of how Andy worded it. It's like you're watching with one eye open. Cause you know what's to come. And I feel like it is big when Ciara gets to the point that she can be so open about her feelings. And she has been so open, especially this season. And I here. I just struggle sometimes watching Wes right now in this season because I cannot imagine how he's gonna handle himself at the reunion because he can't seem to, like, answer a question straight on. He's very, very uncomfortable with awkwardness. He said that himself?

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Ria]

Sierra said she's okay with awkwardness. He's clearly not. And so this reunion is just gonna be so incredibly uncomfortable because I feel like he. When he's put on the spot, like, cannot answer.

[Odeya Rush]

Yeah.

[Ria]

Give a straight answer. Yeah.

[Fran]

I'm not sure how this is gonna go.

[Ria]

Be bold with his answers and emotions. Like, it's always like, kind of like. What's the word? Like, like, hide. Like turtle.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Ria]

Kind of like into his shell, he cowers. Yes. That's the word where it's like, not. Not direct eye contact, kind of looking away. Slow talking.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Ria]

I also think about what he wants to think.

[Fran]

He's like, says what the other person wants to hear. Not sometimes, not necessarily. Like, there are some things he said to Sierra in that conversation where I thought to myself, does he really mean this? You know, and he's like, I. I'm like, I want to go back to that, too. Like, obviously, you know, and you're like, well, is it obvious?

[Ria]

Right?

[Fran]

I don't know.

[Ria]

You texted me this too. And I thought it was a good point when he was like, I see you more now. And it was like, she has been saying the words over and over again. I want him to see me. And it kind of felt like he, like, threw that in because it was like, I know the word she wanted to hear.

[Fran]

I couldn't believe it. He said, I see you more. I said, oh, west, you can't be saying like that. And then you start hooking up with Amanda.

[Ria]

No, it's.

[Fran]

You just.

[Ria]

I, I.

[Fran]

You're hitting her with. I was. And I see you, and you're going. And you started hooking up with her best friend.

[Ria]

And those words are so important. So it just. It just hits a lot, and it's crazy. Moving on, because we'll have more to discuss, because I think that the reunion is being filmed at the end of this week.

[Fran]

I do we know that. I think.

[Odeya Rush]

I don't know.

[Fran]

It has to be a couple people

[Ria]

DM saying a specific date this week. So I feel like maybe that was the rumblings. I guess it has to be right.

[Fran]

And we probably have, like, three ish episodes left, so that would make sense just, like, timeline wise of when, of when they do it. Wes did say on the podcast that he reached out to a bunch of castmates and, like, hasn't heard back from all of them. And KJ got on threads. He was like, I didn't get a text. So it's just like. There's just like, a lot of. I think there's going to be a lot of discourse from the. Within the cast, like, ever. The cast is going to have a lot to say.

[Ria]

They are. And I. I can't imagine them discussing much else of what happened this season.

[Fran]

I know.

[Ria]

You know what I mean? It feels like it's just going to be about this.

[Fran]

I did see a video of, like, of someone saying, who's better at getting out of the hot seat on reunions than Kyle Cook? Like, he's just evaded the hot seat. So many different reunions. Because other shit has happened when this would have been the reunion where, like, holy shit, like, everyone would have crushed Kyle for his behavior and everything that was going down. And knowing that him and Amanda separated now, like, this would have been such an explosion on Kyle. And I laughed because Paige liked the Instagram video that I saw, too, but it was like, anyone better at getting out of the hot seat than Kyle Cook. And once again, he will be. He's going to be on the. On the offense.

[Ria]

So true. He liked our video yesterday of me talking about Amanda and West. The Yankee game. New bestie, yo. You know, I'm like, by the way, I think I've said yo a million times on this episode. I think I've said, bro, yo, go. I don't know what kind of energy I'm bringing today, but I think it's my new sneakers.

[Noah]

It's the Marty supreme hat.

[Ria]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Fran]

I think it's a chalamet. It's a chalamet.

[Ria]

Energy. Timothy Chalamet today, I guess.

[Noah]

Speaking of chalamet, did you see that he skipped the first Knicks game. They won, and then he went last night and they lost. He might never. Kylie Jenner.

[Fran]

Kylie was a good luck charm.

[Ria]

Damn.

[Fran]

Yeah. That was a really bad loss.

[Noah]

Terrible. I was surprised he skipped the first game to, like, be partying in Miami. It's unlike him.

[Ria]

Skippy Tabs.

[Odeya Rush]

I can't believe he.

[Ria]

I can't believe he's partying in Miami.

[Noah]

No, because I said where.

[Fran]

I was really disappointed in Timothy's behavior.

[Noah]

No, I thought he was a real fan.

[Fran]

You got.

[Noah]

Ben Stiller would never miss a game.

[Fran]

Maybe he had some. We don't know.

[Ria]

He was at 11.

[Noah]

Come on.

[Fran]

Maybe it was.

[Noah]

I think he was. Yeah, I think at one of those clubs in Miami.

[Ria]

He was at one. He was at one of those nightclubs clubs.

[Fran]

Eleven's a big difference. The big difference between 11 and some of the other ones.

[Noah]

I think I saw 11.

[Fran]

Okay, well look, maybe it was one

[Noah]

of his 11 parties at 11 without Kylie Jenner.

[Fran]

Maybe it was one of his bro. Maybe it was one of his bros birthdays.

[Ria]

Yeah. I can't imagine a world like where Kylie Jenner is like mad that Timothy Chalmer is going to 11.

[Noah]

No, no, I'm more mad about the Knicks thing.

[Ria]

Yeah, you were. Kylie's more like, hey, you got to get to the Knicks game with me because we need them to win.

[Fran]

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[Ria]

Moving on to Portia and Ellen, Matt Kaplan and Alex Cooper. It's ridiculous.

[Fran]

It actually is. But the idea of like the idea of like down the line that Alex and Matt Kaplan would just like move to some like beautiful ranch in California, never to be seen again and then potentially to the uk. Like I was gonna say, didn't they

[Ria]

move to the uk?

[Noah]

Didn't she come back already?

[Ria]

I don't think she came back.

[Fran]

Well, after everything happened with the show they moved to, like, that beauty that. Or they were in some new house or something that. But yeah, so there's a big Bloomberg article that came out about the inner workings of Unwell. And there's been some rumors for a while that things have not been great. And this Bloomberg article, article came out that apparently he. He's berating people. He even brought someone to tears. There's this in this Bloomberg article. Matt Kaplan reportedly oversees day to day operations at Unwell. In his role as CEO, he has outbursts that has led crews to threaten to quit on the spot during filming and live tours. And one alleged incident, Matt brought a staffer to tears when he, quote, berated the staff on set and threatened to prevent them from ever working in Hollywood again if they messed up. Crew members allegedly filed formal complaints threatening to quit if Matt didn't clean up his act. The report also says that there's a lot of staff turnover at Unwell with the company's head of brand marketing, head of the network and chief growth officer leaving in the past year. So a lot going on. There's a lot in the world right now, you know, of Alex Cooper.

[Ria]

You know what's so crazy? Like, you never want to read the word outbursts with that.

[Odeya Rush]

Right?

[Ria]

Because, like, outbursts. And then also with the threatening of never working in Hollywood again. Like, that is like. Because here's the thing, like, obviously just kind of like, look like that. Yeah.

[Fran]

So the thing is, you'll never work in this town again.

[Odeya Rush]

Honey.

[Ria]

You looked me so dead in the eyes, I thought I would never work in Hollywood again. I was like, fuck, I'm fired. I felt like an Unwell employee. And you were Matt Kaplan. Yep. I was gonna say, like, okay, so here at Barstool, obviously, like, Dave is not your traditional boss. And a lot of people have a lot to say about that. The way that he, like, talks so openly to employees. Right. Y does it so openly that it's

[Fran]

like he'll do it live on air.

[Ria]

It's like live on air and everybody knows what they're getting when they, like, come to work here. Is that like, you know that you are signing, signing up to basically, like, captain to fight with Dave on camera.

[Odeya Rush]

Yeah.

[Ria]

Matt Kaplan is threatening your status in Hollywood behind closed doors. And that is a no go.

[Fran]

No. It's shady. It's also like. It's also so interesting to me because I did. You did kind of get a sense that maybe something was up. There was, of course, a twist to it in what was put into the show. But when Alex did the doc, and they were following the live tour and everything. You watched the guy who was, like, in charge. I don't know if it was like, the production manager or whatever, but of the. Of the live show, threatened to quit, like the. In the. In the, you know, 23rd hour before the. Before the show, first show. And he kind of had to be, like, talked off the ledge. So now sort of looking at that in a different lens, you're like, ooh, what really was going on there? Because in the show, you sort of see Alex be like, I'm very particular. I. I know how I want things done. If I was a guy, I'd be a boss. But since I'm a woman, then that just makes me a bitch. Like, and it's. That is so true that there are so many instances where that happens. And it's like, no one has not been saying that about Alex Cooper in the last couple weeks, too. It's like, repeatedly, savage businesswoman, like, wants to, you know, make money and be head honcho. All these things. So then you just see sort of like, what's going on behind the scenes. And the fact that there's a lot of turnover is not great. And when that happens, honestly, a lot of times it really is like, there's one bad egg who gets all these people to leave. And I don't. Is it Portia or is it Ellen? I don't know. Like, you're not quite sure where it's coming from, United Front or whatever, but when it rains, it pours. So it's like the Cooper and Earl stuff happens.

[Odeya Rush]

There were.

[Fran]

Was the rumors about Unwell. Now everyone's really, really, really, really digging into the Unwell stuff and making that, like, a bigger story.

[Ria]

And any media outlet has. Who has any insight on what's going on, on. Well, this is kind of the perfect time for them to put this out there because they know that there's eyes on it and they have this information. They're like, all right, well, we know that there's a lot of shit going on with the employees on at Unwell, so let's get this article out there because it's. It's clicks and it's whatnot. But yeah, yeah, honestly, this is. This is no good if there's a lot of shit that's happening behind the scenes. There's been people who have been reposting stuff on TikTok that have worked on well, that have reposted, you know, stories.

[Fran]

It is so fascinating to me because if you just look at the Trajectory of what some of these shows that they've acquired and, and things, it's just like, where are they? Like, you just. It's. It's. You wonder what, what. What power is getting pushed behind these other shows that. That are not. That aren't. Call Her Daddy. Because you hear about all these other shows, but you just don't see. See as much of it. And it's like, where. Where's the disconnect here?

[Ria]

Yeah. I mean, I guess in a way, though. And I don't know. Cause it's two media companies that I'm talking about here. Like at Barstool, there are plenty of shows that maybe people don't. They have a select fan base that people know where they are and they're not like the ginormous shows. So maybe that is happening on Adam. Well, and we're kind of like, oh, where are these shows? But there are people that are listening to them. We're not the audience, you know, So I think that that's also. That's fair.

[Fran]

I just think, like, maybe Unwell sells a little bit more of a dream of like.

[Ria]

Yeah, totally. That could totally be the case.

[Fran]

You'll be massive if you come here.

[Ria]

Right where. Whereas, like, when you're more upfront about like, hey, it's up to you here, like, you know, that sort of thing. So very, very interesting. And I'm sure more will come out as we unfold this Alex Cooper drama. And then on top of that, the Devil wears proudest. Prada 2 is right around the corner, coming out May 1st on that Friday. And we had the premiere in New York City. Everyone looked fabulous. It was amazing to see everyone get dressed up to the nines. I felt like the dress code was very glamor. We had people in long black gowns, red gowns, very like black and red. A lot of black and red on that theme of the Devil Wears Prada. And Hathaway looked gorgeous. Meryl Streep, Emily Blunt.

[Fran]

I loved Emily Blunt's dress.

[Ria]

That was a standout.

[Fran]

And you know who really showed up and he dressed for the occasion to support his wife. John Krasinski. He looked fantastic.

[Ria]

Fantastic. They. They were showstoppers.

[Fran]

And Mr. Tucci.

[Ria]

Yes. Well, of course.

[Fran]

Always, Always dapper.

[Ria]

I've been looking into his wrecks a little bit because. Of course. Yeah. But on top of that, Hannah and Paige. Hannah just posted on Instagram they had like a three second cameo. She wrote. They looked fabulous.

[Fran]

They did. I love very similar dress.

[Ria]

And Hathaway, which I thought was similar.

[Fran]

And Which. And is there anything. I don't know if there's anything better or worse. Cause it's like, oh, my God, I had the same idea as Anne Hathaway. Which is like, what a compliment. Like, she's such a style icon, but at the same time, you're like, oh, my God, I had the same idea as Anne Hathaway. It's a devil. It's her movie. Right, Right.

[Ria]

Oh, my God, she's the fucking star. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Fran]

Where it goes both ways. Where you're like, holy shit. But they both looked gorgeous. The silhouette was stunning. Anne was in a. In a red dress and Paige's was black. But very, you know, like the drop waist and the strapless. Yeah, but both. I mean, stunning. Really gorgeous and looked beautiful. She's world's most beautiful. She's cover star of the People mag. Talking about a lot recently. Meryl Streep, stunning. This was a big one too, where I think it's such a fun one to dress up for. And all the New York City influencers and tick tock, tick tockers. Like, so many people were. We're invited to go. Which I love seeing everybody's dresses. Specifically, I loved acquired styles. Did you see her?

[Ria]

No.

[Fran]

Oh, my God, I gotta show it to you. It was gorgeous. Like, black skin tight, like sort of mermaid with a big skirt, had bows all down the front. It was really, really pretty. Just seem to really like when someone nails the assignment of, like, what the movie is, what the premiere is. I love it. And Kate. Kate Barlett Oswal, she wore this, like, gorgeous red gown.

[Odeya Rush]

Loved.

[Fran]

With like a red lip. Just perfection. Really, really, really good. So I love seeing what everybody. What everybody wears and the fun. And there's so many cameos that are allegedly in this movie, but one that got cut with Sydney Sweeneys, allegedly for a creative decision at the. The last minute.

[Ria]

And honestly, it kind of leads into the interview with Odea where she talked a lot about how you literally don't know if you make a movie or TV show until it comes out. Because you could film an entire thing and it's all gone be like. Or you get cast and then the night before they recast you.

[Odeya Rush]

Yeah.

[Ria]

And we talked all about that in the interview. So it's kind of a nice lead in because it seems like that happened with Sydney Sweeney here. And we'll get into. We'll get into it. And I can't wait for the Devil Wears product too, I think.

[Fran]

I'm so excited.

[Ria]

And that wraps up the topics

[Fran]

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[Ria]

All right, everyone, we are here with

[Fran]

a very special guest.

[Ria]

We are joined by Odeya Rush, here to talk about her new show just finished up, Memory of a killer corporate retreat coming out. And also one of my friends from my childhood acting days that everyone loves to hear about. And now you can back up that you actually saw me at the classes.

[Odeya Rush]

Yeah, I mean, we were kids. We were like 14. And that was not. That was like, not a legit acting class.

[Ria]

I will say I thought she was, like, critically acclaimed.

[Odeya Rush]

She was amazing. But it was in her living room. And we did, like, we did take, like an hour snack break, which is not what you do in a class.

[Ria]

It's so true, because she's the one who taught me frozen grapes, like, to freeze my grapes.

[Odeya Rush]

That's what you learned in the class.

[Ria]

And there's also, like, we were younger. We were like 14.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Ria]

But we were in class with a lot of. Of older individuals.

[Odeya Rush]

We were in the master class.

[Ria]

Yeah. No, no big deal.

[Noah]

Yeah.

[Ria]

It was just me and you, though, like, as the youngest and you're, you know, like sometimes I'm looking at you, I'm like, what's it like living my dream? You know, like, you actually got the parts. You were in class bringing your scripts.

[Odeya Rush]

Yeah.

[Ria]

And you made it happen. Thank you.

[Fran]

Thank you.

[Odeya Rush]

So I don't know what else to say. Thank you.

[Ria]

It's. It really is so cool. You've done a lot of amazing, amazing projects. Most recently Memory of a Killer on Hulu with Patrick Dempsey, which is huge. How did you feel getting a show like that, especially with Patrick?

[Odeya Rush]

I've been wanting to do TV for a while. My entire career, I've only done movies. And I think that's, you know, when I started out, movies were the thing. And then the last few years, I think TV is the same level as movie. Yeah, it's become, you know, such high level stuff.

[Ria]

So.

[Odeya Rush]

So I. It's so weird. I feel like I manifested it. I had visions for like a year that I was waking up, like, in a modern apartment in Toronto. For a long time. I wanted many specific things. I wanted to do a show I like. I wanted to do a job for a long time because I kind of wanted the security, because movies max, you know, three months. So I. I really feel like I manifested. I wanted, like this. This exact specific thing. So when it happened, it was crazy, but I was always like, yeah, I also knew it, you know.

[Ria]

You knew it was gonna happen.

[Odeya Rush]

Yeah.

[Ria]

I mean, your first roles were like Curb youb Enthusiasm and Law and Order, right?

[Odeya Rush]

Yeah. Which every New York actor does. You have to do Law and Order except me.

[Ria]

Yeah, I didn't. I didn't get the call for that one. Yeah, no, not quite. But you will one day. No, I've given it up. I do this now. This is what I'm doing.

[Odeya Rush]

Yeah, you're good at it, though.

[Ria]

Thanks. Thanks. But Curb your Enthusiasm was so cool because I feel like, especially at the age that you did it, being on, like an older show, was that kind of the moment you were like, oh, this is like, this is gonna be a thing for me. Like, I. This is gonna be my career. Yes.

[Odeya Rush]

I mean, that show was so sick because the guy that directed it was Larry Charles, who directed Borat.

[Ria]

Yes.

[Odeya Rush]

So for me, and I didn't really watch her because I was 13, but then I remember I went to. It wasn't Blockbuster. It was like another kind of video store down the street for me. And I got all the. I got, like, season and I watch it and I'm like, I'm genuinely a fan of this. And it's also. It's all improv, which I think is, like, kind of hard for a kid. So I was like, okay, I did this. You know, it gave me a lot of confidence that I could pull that off and work with such big people,

[Ria]

you know, that is so much pressure as a kid to be like, all right, here's the Gist now just do some improv.

[Odeya Rush]

Yeah. Also, the funny thing is it was one of my first auditions and my dad used to. I used to live in Jersey, so my dad would drive me into the city and like, there's no parking, so I just go upstairs and he'd like make loops around the block. And the way the audition went is in the waiting room. They gave you like a strip of paper and they're like, this is the scenario. And the scenario was pretend you're playing strip poker, but you keep winning. And I'm 13. So I call my dad. I'm like, oh, Abba. Like, what's strip poker? And he was like, what's happening?

[Ria]

What are they doing to you up there?

[Odeya Rush]

This is a child. I knew I shouldn't have put her in this, but they talked to him. They're like, don't worry, she's winning the

[Ria]

whole time, so it's fine. Like, actually, she's great at poker.

[Odeya Rush]

She's amazing. She's a genius. And she's not taking off her clothes at 13.

[Ria]

That is so cool. But I feel like the classes that we went to at Ann's kind of like prepared for moments like that because it was more mature. I mean, I tell a story and I've told it on this podcast a ton, but people may have not heard it. Matthew Daddario, you know. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. So he was in our class.

[Odeya Rush]

Yes.

[Ria]

And there was one night and it was around Christmas and we never did commercial acting, but around Christmas there was one class we did commercials and nobody showed up. Cause it was like, great.

[Odeya Rush]

I didn't even know about this.

[Ria]

Yeah. Like, nobody showed up this week besides me and Matt Daddario. And I'm 13 at the time. And Ann hands me a clementine and she's like, do you know what an orgasm is? And I was like, ah, yeah. Like from what my 13 year old brain could like put together. But like, she's like, okay, so I want you to like eat each piece of the clementine. I want it to be like a bigger and bigger orgasm. And I had.

[Odeya Rush]

You're a child.

[Ria]

No, I'm a child.

[Odeya Rush]

Yeah.

[Ria]

And may she rest in peace now. Not okay, I know, but she. But it was. And Matt Daddario like kept looking away. Cause he was obviously uncomfortable.

[Odeya Rush]

Obviously.

[Ria]

Yeah. He was just like. And was like, no, no, look at her. She's doing a great job. And like here I am like 13 years old faking an orgasm. So the classes were like, well, really mature. She was.

[Odeya Rush]

So I think she was like 90 when she was teaching the class. And she just came from a time where like at 13 you get married kind of.

[Ria]

You know what I mean?

[Odeya Rush]

She's like, well, you're a woman child bride. Like, it's time to get married and start a family. And I remember too, she loved. And I think she did this to you too. She loved doing that scene in August, Osage county, where like we'd sit on the ground and there was a creepy older guy behind us. It was her favorite scene. She's like, do the scene. Do the scene. Yes.

[Ria]

There were a lot of things like that where it was very adult. I remember. This is funny. We both were auditioning for the same role. At some point we came in to work on the scene. Competition. Yeah. And I brought cigarettes because my mom. Cause that's what the person was doing the scene. And I remember I gave. Anne was like, give her your cigarette. Give her your cigarette. And I was like, my mom's still waiting for Odeya to return her cigarette.

[Odeya Rush]

Yeah, yeah, I got you. I got you.

[Ria]

You know, $16 a pack. Okay.

[Odeya Rush]

And now it's 22.

[Ria]

Oh, shit. Yeah, you went up. You grew up.

[Odeya Rush]

Yeah, yeah, exactly.

[Ria]

No, but you went from Law and Curb youb Enthusiasm and then your first movie, was it Odd Life or the Giver?

[Odeya Rush]

Yeah, it was the Odd Life of Timothy Green. Such a cute movie.

[Ria]

So cute. It's on Disney now, I think.

[Odeya Rush]

Okay, good to know.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Odeya Rush]

And yeah, I mean, I was still in public school when I did that movie. I went for like three months and then. And I think that was so cool. A. I did so well in school. Cause they give you a private teacher and they kind of give you the answers too. So I remember I came back like straight A's. I'm like, I did a movie.

[Ria]

No big deal. No big deal. And then you go to the Giver, which huge, huge movie. Meryl Streep. And then you went on this little press run where you were like besties with Taylor Swift.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Ria]

Can we discuss that? Cause I have told many people that you were best friends with Taylor Swift.

[Odeya Rush]

This was definitely a one sided friendship, I would say.

[Ria]

But the pictures online exist. If you look up Odea, she invited

[Odeya Rush]

me to some stuff, but I think she was just a really like. She's just so nice.

[Ria]

So.

[Odeya Rush]

And she could tell I was such a big fan. The dynamic was kind of like, have you been to camp?

[Ria]

Yes. Literally cheerleading.

[Odeya Rush]

Okay, well, I don't know if they had this dynamic there, but like when you're like 13. And there's like an 18 year old counselor that you're obsessed with and you think. And like you go home and you tell all your friends that you have this 18 year old friend and she doesn't know your name. So I. I was just Taylor. She was just so nice, like, genuinely so nice. And I think it was at the time too, she was like doing these like the 4th of July gathering, which was so sweet of her to invite me to, but yeah, it was. It's pretty embarrassing.

[Ria]

So you went to the Rhode island house.

[Odeya Rush]

I did.

[Ria]

You did one of those big fourth of July parties. Her favorite holiday.

[Odeya Rush]

I never invited again, but I did go and I did tell every person I met about it. Cause it's such a flex, you know.

[Ria]

And then you were doing press and you were like, she's my best friend.

[Odeya Rush]

I said that on the news. Taylor Swift is my best friend. I did say that, but I was 16 and I was excited and I didn't realize what friendship, really. I didn't realize it takes time. I didn't take. I didn't realize it has to be a mutual thing.

[Ria]

Yeah. But now being invited to her Rhode island house, you were like, okay, we're friends enough.

[Odeya Rush]

Yeah, I'm close enough. Cause the people there were that also. The people there were so cool, you

[Ria]

know, because that was like around, I think the era of like the Bad Blood music video maybe.

[Odeya Rush]

I think so.

[Ria]

It was like, who am I gonna get the call up to be in

[Odeya Rush]

the music video, by the way? Did not get the call. Did not get the call. But she was like, I don't know, she was so nice and I was such a big fan. So in my head, I think I just jumped to, we're best friends.

[Ria]

Right? You know, right now there are rumors that she's getting married the fourth of July weekend. And that. That's like, what? No, you didn't catch that invite?

[Odeya Rush]

Did not catch that. I'll invite her to mine though.

[Ria]

Yeah. Maybe she'll be like, oh, that girl.

[Odeya Rush]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Ria]

So you do the giver and that's like, would you say, obviously being Meryl Streep, does that start the run of you working with like some of the biggest actors of all time?

[Odeya Rush]

Yeah, I mean, I think I did a few things when I was younger, when I was still in school. And then I think from the giver, I went straight to goosebumps. And I mean, I'm lucky. I'm like, this industry takes so much luck, truly. It just takes like, it's like a Kismet thing. You have to be. Obviously, you have to work hard, but also you have to be at the right place at the right time. And I think, too, it was, like, a good momentum run.

[Ria]

But, yeah, what was it like when you went back to school and you were just in, like, big feature films? Like, how. How did the kids at school react to that?

[Odeya Rush]

I think in the. In the beginning, I was definitely. Because I started doing commercials, and I remember I did a commercial for, like. And I didn't tell anyone at first because I was almost a little scared and embarrassed about it. I was the new girl in school, too. And I remember kids would, like, sing the song to me of the commercials. And I remember, like, I had a crush on one of the guys, and I did a commercial for Glitter Lava, and I was like, well, I could bring you some. Like, they gave me a lot of free Glitter Lava.

[Ria]

I got some free samples I can give you.

[Odeya Rush]

I think I was annoying knowing about it more than. I don't think they cared as much as I did, to be honest, because

[Ria]

sometimes when you reach a certain point in school, like, that's kind of when I sorta gave it up a little bit. Whereas, like, I try. I feel like I tried so hard. And then, like, I think I felt like I cared more about my friends at one point and kind of, like, dropped the love for it. And then it sort of came back around now where I'm like, oh, fuck, why did I, like, give it up so easily?

[Odeya Rush]

You can still go back.

[Ria]

I think I've talked too much on this podcast for me to be, like, cast and anything at this point. They're like, we can't have her. We can't have her around.

[Odeya Rush]

You could be Maria's friend in memory. I'm a pitch.

[Ria]

Listen, pitch it, because I. Here's the thing. I've had a couple of people now tell me that they're gonna, like, pitch me to certain things, and I won't say who, because one is still in the works. I'm waiting on, and it's a big story. I can't. Yeah, no, literally not. Because I cannot talk about it whatsoever. And it would be fucking insane if it were to happen. It's a totally separate thing. But there was a time where, you know, Outer Banks.

[Odeya Rush]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, of course.

[Ria]

So we took the sign down because we got mad at him. Oh, my God, I forgot. I used to. It used to be, I would die for John B. Okay, so when Outer Banks first came out, Fran and I were, like, obsessed with it. We had Madeline Klein and Chase Stokes on, like, early days. They didn't. Like, they were barely cracking 10,000 followers. Like, that type of thing. Like, it was about to explode. And we were so obsessed. And then it became a thing where, like, I was like, I want to be on the show. Like, get me on this show. I promise you, I could deliver. I got the reps in. I've done a lot of classes, not a lot of filming. I get me on this show.

[Odeya Rush]

Yeah. Yeah, she's trained. Yeah, she's classically trained. Exactly.

[Ria]

By Ann Ray Trae. Yes. Very mature.

[Odeya Rush]

She knows how to have an orgasm with her Clementine.

[Ria]

They need that on Outer Banks.

[Odeya Rush]

Exactly.

[Ria]

They. They go to do the second season, and I don't get a call, so obviously I'm upset. Then I get it trending on Twitter. Hashtag, get Rihan Outer Banks trends on Twitter. I'm like, I'm so in there now they're gonna see the demand is there. Show comes out, and I'm watching, and there's a part where, like, they're at a party, and. And, like, Chase's character ends up with, like, another girl, and it's, like, a whole thing. He goes to do an interview about the show, and the girl he did the interview with brought it up to him, and he told her that was supposed to be my role, but, like, it didn't work out. I said, okay, well, I never got a call or anything. Like, it didn't work out because of COVID Yeah. Well, then why did it work out with that girl?

[Odeya Rush]

Why am I sitting by the phone?

[Ria]

Yeah. Like, waiting. I'm waiting for the email to come in. That's. So I've kind of just given up hope. But there's. There is something right now, but I won't talk about it. And when it finally comes out and I didn't get the call, then I'll. Then I'll talk about it.

[Odeya Rush]

Yeah.

[Ria]

You know.

[Odeya Rush]

You know what happened to me? And I kind of learned with this industry that you can't talk about things. The first movie I ever got, it was called the Sorcerer's Apprentice. With. Who was it? Nicholas Cage.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Odeya Rush]

And I. It was a tiny role. It was, like, one scene, but I was so excited. I didn't just tell my class. I told the entire school. Every person in Midland Park High School knew that I was gonna do a movie. And the night before, my mom's like, we didn't know what hair and makeup was, so my mom's doing my hair in rollers because I was like, oh, I have to come. Like, ready? And it's the night before. And we get the call that they cut the scene. And my parents were like, it's okay. You don't have to go to school tomorrow.

[Ria]

That's so nice.

[Odeya Rush]

It was so nice of them.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Odeya Rush]

And for years later, people are like, when's that movie coming out? I don't know.

[Ria]

I don't think it ever came out.

[Fran]

I don't know.

[Odeya Rush]

Yeah, I think they're still working on it.

[Ria]

They recapped.

[Odeya Rush]

Casted.

[Ria]

Yeah, that is true. I feel like you cannot tell anybody anything until it's out there.

[Odeya Rush]

Also, you could film a scene and they'll cut you out.

[Ria]

Yeah, I feel like that happens.

[Odeya Rush]

They can be. By the way, I did a move, oddly, for Timothy Green. I was supposed to have like, you know, a side chick on there. Like a side guy, whatever the term is. And they fully just painted him out of the scene.

[Ria]

Why?

[Odeya Rush]

They just put, like, a little bit of tree and grass on him. He's fully in a scene that they just.

[Ria]

That's insane. So it's really mean.

[Odeya Rush]

So disrespectful.

[Ria]

I feel like there are so many stories now, and especially with, like, TikTok, more actors and actresses are coming out with stories of being like, by the way, I was in this show. I just got completely cut.

[Odeya Rush]

It happens. Also, this is my first time doing a show. You could be watching it and a whole scene is cut. Yeah, because they. They have to fit it into an hour, you know, and they. Some commercial breaks, whatever. Like, I get excited for Apartment. Okay, well, that's gone.

[Ria]

You're like, at least I know I'm a series regular in the show.

[Odeya Rush]

Yeah, exactly.

[Ria]

So you do the Giver, which was huge. And from there, I feel like you did so many cool other movies, Lady Bird being one of them, which was Oscar. Winning. Right. Oscar nominated, which is so ginormous. Directed by Greta Gerwig, who's an iconic director. What is it like working with someone like Greta Gerwig, who. I feel like people just dream of working with her?

[Odeya Rush]

Well, at the time, it was a really small movie. It a24 wasn't even attached, you know? And I've always been a fan of Greta Gerwig. Like, I loved Frances.

[Ria]

Ha.

[Odeya Rush]

I loved Mistress America. Like, I watched all of her interviews. She's just so. She's so smart and she's so special. And I also love New York. And she does kind of like celebrate a lot. Even though she's from Sacramento, like, at the time, she Was doing a lot of movies, kind of romanticizing New York, which I do as well. So I don't know, it was at the time, really sick. She had a lot of things that were really special. Like she would play music in between takes just to get the crew in the, you know, the right mood. She did something else that was really sweet that I encourage people to do as well. Is this right? And she gave people name tags. Cause sets are filled with so many crew members and sometimes you forget people's names. So it was cute that every day people wore name tags and it just made things feel more personal. And I don't know, she was so sweet. And Saoirse is like, honestly one of the nicest people I've ever worked with. She talks to everyone. She sits at lunch with everyone. Like, that was. It was really fun. But because it was so small, I think I had zero expectations. Truly. Never thought it would go to the Oscars. Never thought it would, like, break all the box office, whatever, you know, get such high ratings. I was just like, yeah, I live in LA and this is fun and I'm driving really close to work and I love Greta, but I never expected it to do what it did, you know?

[Ria]

Did you go to the Oscars?

[Odeya Rush]

No, I went to the after party, though.

[Ria]

Okay. The Vanity Fair after party. That's what everyone wants to go to anyway.

[Odeya Rush]

That was sick. That was like just celebrities every. You know, I remember Kobe was there. He won an Oscar that night.

[Ria]

Yes.

[Odeya Rush]

In Sasha Baron Co. You know, I love Borat. He was there. That was super cool.

[Ria]

That's awesome. Is it still crazy for you to be around such big names, even though you are an actress who was in the movies with them?

[Odeya Rush]

Honestly?

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Odeya Rush]

To me, especially if I'm a big fan of someone, it's hard for me to like, separate the job, you know what I mean? Their character. If I see someone on a TV show.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Odeya Rush]

I'm gonna be honest. Yeah. It's so beautiful.

[Ria]

It is crazy because I feel like there are so many. I mean, like now Timothee Chalamet. It's insane. Yeah.

[Odeya Rush]

And that was one of his first movies. Yeah. No one had, like, we had no

[Ria]

idea how big that was gonna be.

[Odeya Rush]

No idea.

[Ria]

I think it was just like one of those coming of age people. They relate to them. And then you. Do you work with Jennifer Aniston as well? It's like, I feel like I'm. It's like name dropping. So many of the biggest actors and actresses, but also really cool that you get to Learn from being on set with them as well.

[Odeya Rush]

Yeah.

[Ria]

Is there anything that you picked up specifically from any of these people that you work with that you now take with you everywhere?

[Odeya Rush]

I think something, you know, Jack Black did that was so cool on the set of Goosebumps was, you know, it was Jack Black, and then it was me and Dylan and Ryan. So we're like three 17 year olds. And then him, and he has this, like, massive trailer and all these things. And he would, like, bring us into his trailer to watch things with him. I remember it was the NBA final, so, like, you know, we'd watch games with him, he played basketball with us, he'd go to movies with us. Like, that, to me, is so cool that he is one of the biggest stars in the world. And for him to be that massive and still, like, he could have just been like, all right, I'm going to my trailer. I don't need to talk to these kids. Let me just talk to a lot of people do that, you know, and the fact that he, like, didn't lose that side of him that's so nurturing and cool. I think that's a big lesson. And I'm. When I work with people that aren't like that, I'm like, guys, like, Jack Black is like that.

[Ria]

You can all.

[Odeya Rush]

You can all be like that.

[Ria]

I feel like that's something people would absolutely love to hear about Jack Black because he just gives off that kind. Kind of energy that he's like, uncle that you want to hang out with. So that is just incredible to hear. It really is so wild. I feel like the resume that you have built for yourself and now to lead up to being in a show with Patrick Dempsey after. I feel like people have been, like, waiting for Patrick Dempsey to return to, like, a TV show where they could watch him all the time. And now it's renewed.

[Odeya Rush]

Yeah, I know. We got second season.

[Ria]

Yes. That is so, so exciting. My parents are a picture obsessed with the show, by the way. Before they even knew you were in it, like, they were so excited. And then when they realized it was you, they were like, oh, my God. Like one of those.

[Odeya Rush]

Like, we know her.

[Ria]

Yeah, we know her. Which is so fun.

[Fran]

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[Ria]

I wanted to ask about, you know you worked with Ray Liotta. Yeah. Right before his passing, which was so insane, but also an incredible experience and moment to have with him before that.

[Odeya Rush]

Yeah, I mean, I have to say the same about him. Like, you know, I didn't work with him so much, but when he came, we shot the movie in the Dominican Republic. And like when he came, you know, we go to dinners, he was so sweet. Didn't feel like this huge movie star that he is. Another thing that I remember him doing was this happens quite often where when you film an actor's coverage, you know, you film close up and then you film your close up. And when their close up gets filmed, a lot of the times they give it a hundred percent and then it turns on you and it's like, you know, you feel a little bit of a difference. I'm telling you, I feel like he gave me more on my closeup. Like, he was so humble and so sweet and I, I like, for me, it's just an honor, you know, it was really an honor. It was such an honor also to work with Eric. Like, that was. I Was, I don't know, 23, 24, just a surreal experience. And two men that are so. That were so sweet and yeah, I'm

[Ria]

very fortunate, you know, really just iconic, honestly. And just like being able to cherish those memories and take them with you going forward on your future projects is just. Just incredible to have. Is there anything, you know, you're working on TV now. Do you have a desire to go back to movies? I mean, we have corporate retreat coming out, which is horror.

[Odeya Rush]

Yeah, that's horror comedy, satire.

[Ria]

What's the difference between doing, like, horror versus anything else? Cause I feel like we hear how different it is. We just had Camila Moroney on and she was talking about. It's just like, so different sometimes.

[Odeya Rush]

It's, you know, I'm like, I'm a scaredy cat. I don't watch horror movies. And this movie is so gory. That genuine, genuinely. When I was reading one, I couldn't even read the scene, you know, like, and this scene, we. This movie, we did a lot of practical things. So I guess it's just different in the sense, like, if you're into that stuff, it can be really exciting. If you're like me and you're scared, it can genuinely, like, I don't know, it's. It's kind of surreal that, you know, to see you and your co stars, like, all bloodied up or cut up or whatever it is. Yeah, I was pretty affected by that. And then it's also. You have to save your voice. It's a lot of screaming, honestly.

[Ria]

Even though being affected, I'm sure it comes into play when you go home at night and you have to actually be with yourself. Right. That's a weird aspect to kind of differentiate the two. But does it help a little bit more getting into the character? Cause you genuinely are freaked out by it.

[Odeya Rush]

Well, my character was supposed to be strong, actually. No, actually the opposite. Yeah. I don't know. So what was the question exactly?

[Ria]

Like, being able to differentiate going home versus being in it. Like, is it a weird feeling when you're filming horror? Like, when you're, like, alone at night?

[Odeya Rush]

Yeah. I mean, what was nice is we did a lot of night shoots, so I'm a night owl, so it's perfect. Like, a lot of the times, you know, you end up having you get to sleep during the day. And this actually happened to me where, you know, I had all this blood on me. I was 7:00am I'm like, I'm gonna go home like this. I'm gonna take a Shower. I don't want to take it off here. And I got pulled over because I had all this blood on me. He was like, are you okay? And I'm like, no, no, I'm doing a movie. And he's like, are you sure? Are you okay? I was like, it's fake blood. Do you want to touch it? He's like, no, no.

[Ria]

Are you still, like, actively auditioning for things constantly, or now that you know that you're filming Memory of a Killer, you kind of take it easy. Like, what's the day to day now, like, as a working actor?

[Odeya Rush]

Well, when you do a show, you're kind of like, you're in contract and you have to block out a certain amount of time. So, yeah, I am still going out for stuff if it's something I can do in the hiatus, you know, But I've never really had that where I've known, like, okay, six months out of the year, I'm doing this, which is cool. It's actually pretty relaxing. It's like a pretty relaxing feeling because that's something. As an actor, you're always. You do something, and then it's like, oh, my God, what am I gonna do next? You know?

[Ria]

Right. I did see somebody recently, and now I'm blanking on her name, but she is, like a known actress. And now I feel like an asshole that I'm blanking on her name, but she made a video. Being like, I'm so tired of getting to the end and it being between me and somebody else, and it going to somebody else.

[Odeya Rush]

Oh, yeah.

[Ria]

And there were a lot of comments. I think even Kerry Washington commented being like, I've been there. It is so frustrating. Have you been in those positions before where you've been told, like, oh, it's between you and somebody else, and then it goes to some. A different person, of course.

[Odeya Rush]

And that's. That's also a skill in and of itself, because I used to get so excited. Like, I. If I knew it was filming in Vancouver, I'm looking, like, hotels up, you know, I'm like, I could be. Because it could change. These things can change your life. But I feel like I truly feel this, that the things I didn't get, they weren't meant for me. Even if they did, well, I'll watch the movie. And I'm like, no, this person's better. This person was meant to have this role, you know, and you kind of. It's out of your control. So you just. You can't get too excited. You have to look at it as, like, take the good out. Like, very flattering that I got close, but until you're on set, until it comes out, genuinely, you know, it's not yours. Yeah.

[Ria]

Is there anything major that you would feel comfortable talking about that you auditioned for, like, that that you didn't get? Because I feel like there's gotta be a ton of things.

[Odeya Rush]

I've auditioned for so many things. Let me think.

[Ria]

I feel like, as you're thinking, the first movie audition I ever had, and I know that you auditioned for it, too, was Salt, and it was Angelina Jolie. To play young Angelina Jolie.

[Odeya Rush]

That makes sense.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Ria]

I mean, you remember that. Definitely should have gotten that. Thank you. You know, because I feel like I remember whoever was casted.

[Odeya Rush]

I look like her more.

[Ria]

Way more.

[Odeya Rush]

Oh, there was a movie where I was so close to it to play young Mila Kunis.

[Ria]

Okay.

[Fran]

Which is, like the most, you know,

[Odeya Rush]

the person I'm most compared to most all the time. Why did I fail this? I had one job.

[Ria]

You had one job. Because that was a thing. I feel like when you first start coming up, that people were like, holy shit.

[Odeya Rush]

People still do it. People still do it.

[Ria]

You do. Definitely. I mean, I've never seen. Seen her in person, but I feel like, obviously the similarities are there.

[Odeya Rush]

That was. It was something. It was something for Netflix. And the girl who got it was really good. She was really good.

[Ria]

I think I look like her more, but you look more like her, I think there.

[Odeya Rush]

But it's like a vibe. I think she did a better job with maybe what they were looking for, you know? But I was like, really? This one. Like, I thought I had that in the bag.

[Ria]

Yeah. I was telling you right before we started that watching Marty supreme, that I thought that you definitely would have auditioned for the role that Odessa played.

[Odeya Rush]

I didn't. But also, she's incredible.

[Ria]

Yeah. So good.

[Odeya Rush]

I feel like no one could do it like her in that role.

[Ria]

I guess that's kind of what you're saying, though, when it turns out that somebody gets something, it's like that role was meant for them.

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Odeya Rush]

Then you see the way they did it, and you remember the way you did it, and you're like, no, it's just they got the character better. Their interpretation. Sometimes it's just like, you are that person, too.

[Ria]

Have you ever left an audition or have been in audition where they were like, you just fucking bombed that. Like, that was terrible.

[Odeya Rush]

Oh, my God. Not in a long time. I think if you maybe don't hear anything but I.

[Ria]

That was like, me. I never heard anything. Yeah, you got ghosted. Yeah. No, every time I was ghosted. No, there was a. There was one that I got close to, which was. It was called Truck, and that was directed by David Schwimmer and.

[Odeya Rush]

Oh, that's sick.

[Ria]

Liana Liberato, I think was her name. The girl who got it.

[Odeya Rush]

Yeah.

[Ria]

She's really great. And I was really young compared to the person to her who got it. We might only have a couple year difference now, but when I auditioned, I think I was maybe like, 11. And it was like a girl who meets someone online and ends up, you know, the guys.

[Odeya Rush]

I know what you're talking. Did I audition for you too?

[Ria]

You probably did.

[Odeya Rush]

Yeah. But I think I know. I think I know what you're talking about.

[Ria]

I remember getting close on that, and then it was kind of like, all right, you're, like, too young to be, like, online and, like, going to the mall by yourself.

[Odeya Rush]

Yeah. Anne is like, I beg to differ.

[Ria]

Anne's like, no, she could be a

[Fran]

lady of the night.

[Ria]

Yeah. Let me tell you, she's grown. That really was wild, though. Like, we showed up to an apartment on the Upper west side in a living room. Yeah. And it was kind of the same thing over and over, over again. You know, it was.

[Odeya Rush]

But there was, like, beautiful moments that didn't really have. It was therapy. I remember came out in. In our class.

[Ria]

Yes.

[Odeya Rush]

I remember because so many people weren't professional actors. Some people were worked in construction and would come in and, like, kill and do such an amazing job. And one of the parts of class was sitting in a circle and, like, talking about things like that make you cry or sit. A positive thing about someone, it wasn't. You know what I mean? Like, she really had us pour our hearts out. And for me, I lived in a small town, New Jersey. Nobody was acting. And for me, it was like, I have this little community that's so special, where it's like, we're all a little weird, you know, we have our outlet, you know?

[Ria]

Yeah, absolutely. I think it's like you said, like, it was getting deeper at an age that, you know, where you're from, small town, New Jersey, like, being from Long island and then, like, being able to meet people that are different from you, I feel like at that age was really important. And like, you said, like, there were deep things that came out of that class. But I remember one day we went around and we did the, like. What's a word that upsets you? And I and I just like couldn't think of anything that day because I was like, I'm having a pretty good. Like, I was literally 13. I'm like, I'm having a pretty good day. And I said, and I remember like a boy in school, like maybe said like, I was a failure or something, like as a joke or whatever.

[Odeya Rush]

Like, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Ria]

I don't know. But I was like, what do I say? And we got to me and I was like, failure, like is the deep word. And I remember Anne being like a boy in your class called you a failure. You're 13. And I was like, I was like, how do I come up with a deeper story right now of why this word failure affects me? Like, I really wasn't. I just like couldn't think of anything at the time. Yeah. Meanwhile, people were sharing so many deeper. Everyone was like, 45. Yeah.

[Odeya Rush]

No, they're like, I had an abortion last week.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Fran]

Like, it was deep.

[Odeya Rush]

My lunch wasn't good. Yeah.

[Ria]

Like, I was like, I. I don't know this 13 year old kids.

[Fran]

I was a failure because I was

[Ria]

bad in gym class. Like, yeah, yeah, it was, it was deep, but it was kind of real fast. Yeah, we did. And it was kind of like the same recipe. But I've talked about this. We had Kenny Ortega on, who was director of High School Musical, Cheetah Girls, the whole thing. And I talked about this with him a little bit. We're like, like, it actually was such a welcoming place because I remember at the time my dad had like lost his job for a little bit. And like my parents kind of like said to Anne, like, hey, we can't really afford, like coming to class anymore. And she let me come for free.

[Odeya Rush]

Oh, I didn't pay for like a year.

[Ria]

Yeah, like, she, like, that's the kind of woman that she was. Even though we talked about the weird stories, she. She was like, no, keep coming. Like it's okay. Like you can't afford it, but, like, you can keep coming. Which is like giving a place for young kids to come together and do that is really cool. Even though a lot of it was.

[Odeya Rush]

She used to teach at LaGuardia, right?

[Ria]

Yeah, I think so. Or something like that. Because then, you know, her sons and all that, which, you know, there's been some TMZ articles that we won't get into.

[Odeya Rush]

Oh, really?

[Ria]

Yeah, I think they got into some. I think Devin maybe got into some trouble at some point. You know the guy from Home Alone.

[Odeya Rush]

Yeah, of course. Well, she always.

[Ria]

Yeah, yeah, it was like My son was in Home Alone, so obviously.

[Odeya Rush]

Nice to meet you.

[Ria]

My son.

[Odeya Rush]

Yeah, like, obviously, he just said, how are you?

[Ria]

Yeah, that was it.

[Fran]

Like, he.

[Ria]

We barely saw him.

[Odeya Rush]

Yeah, yeah.

[Ria]

But, yeah, that. That was awesome. I'm so excited for you. I'm so happy for you. Thank you. Is there a dream role that you kind of, like, want to manifest out there that's maybe like a movie or somebody that you would want to work with that you haven't yet, even though the list is pretty stacked right now.

[Odeya Rush]

Yeah, I want to do more comedy. I would love to work with Seth Rogen.

[Ria]

Oh, my God.

[Odeya Rush]

Like, I grew up on him. Even the studio is. Have you seen Love Studios those last two episodes? All the time.

[Ria]

I can't wait for that show to come back. And I feel like Catherine o', Hara, obviously very sad, but I feel like they're gonna do her justice. And Seth Rogen, the way that he spoke about her was beautiful. That. Oh, that would be so good. I feel like that's such a good pairing. I'm rooting for that for you. I feel like. Thank you. I feel like that would be amazing. So you just. You want to get more into the comedy?

[Odeya Rush]

I just want to see what it feels, you know, I've done such especially Memory is, like, so heavy, you know, and I want to see what it feels like. Even I'll, you know, I'll watch videos behind the scenes of, like, Judd Apatow or Seth Rogen. I would love to know what it feels like to have a director yell from the monitor to give you improv lines. I would love to know what it feels like to, like, break in a scene, you know, break out laughing, just to see how it feels to come home, you know, after laughing all day. Right. I want to feel that. That's like the next thing that I would love to do. Either.

[Ria]

Either.

[Odeya Rush]

I grew up on, like, knocked up, you know, super Bad. This is the end.

[Ria]

Like great comedies that now like that anymore. We're yearning for it.

[Odeya Rush]

I know. They really Step brothers.

[Ria]

The Hangover, like the Anchorman. It was such a time.

[Odeya Rush]

It was an amazing time. And I wonder too, if it's because, like, we're so entertained by social media and those movies are pure entertainment, like non stop laughs. And I wonder now if people are, like, seeking that less. You know what I mean? I don't know why that's happening. There's talented people out there.

[Fran]

Right.

[Ria]

And it's one of those things that it comes back around, though, because now people are having those conversations again. Where it's like, well, we need to get back to those spots.

[Odeya Rush]

Yeah.

[Ria]

I just went to the movies yesterday and saw the drama. And coming Attractions was Seth Rogen. Olivia Wilde, the invites, an A24 film. Okay, cool. And it looked. That looks really cool, too. Love Seth Rogen. Seth Rogen. He loves reality tv. And he followed. Remember Noah when he followed me on Twitter and I was so hyped?

[Noah]

Oh, yeah.

[Ria]

Because it was about Summer Night.

[Odeya Rush]

Such a flex.

[Fran]

It was a flex.

[Ria]

And then we went to LA and we bought his weed. And I was, like, tweeting at him, but he never answered. But I was like, okay. He followed, though.

[Odeya Rush]

You know what else he has that's really cool? He has, like, a weed accessory line.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Odeya Rush]

That's so sick. Like, I got my best friend. Cause she likes weed. I got her, like, a ashtray tape, and they're so sick.

[Ria]

He knows what he's doing. Yeah. You know, he's a pro at that.

[Odeya Rush]

Yeah. And I think he, like, makes them, designs himself. He has, like, a director's chair that has an ashtray and like a big cup thing. Like, really sick stuff.

[Ria]

Cause he, like, sculpts. I think that he's like, pottery, right?

[Odeya Rush]

No, I know this.

[Ria]

He does, like, the whole, like, the pottery.

[Odeya Rush]

I know all about it. What is it called? Houseplant.

[Ria]

Houseplant.

[Fran]

Is it?

[Ria]

Yeah. Well, remember we were so pissed. Cause it was so locked up. We were like, this shit's. It was so hard to open.

[Odeya Rush]

What are you talking about?

[Ria]

His weed.

[Fran]

It was so hard to open.

[Ria]

It was driving us nothing. I think that's what I tweeted at him. And obviously.

[Odeya Rush]

How do I open this at Seth Rogen? Can you help me open?

[Ria]

Right? I think that's what it was. And he's probably like, okay, this girl's annoying. I want her to talk about Summer House. She's actually just weak. Do you watch any reality TV at all?

[Odeya Rush]

Yes. What do I. Is love on the spectrum?

[Ria]

Yeah, that's reality tv.

[Odeya Rush]

I love that. I love that show so much. I cry in every episode.

[Ria]

We always get people who are. Watch, like, the net, Netflix, reality. Like, when Camilla was here, she was like, am I like a noob? Because I only watch the Netflix ones. We were like, yeah, you gotta get into Bravo. You know?

[Odeya Rush]

Where do I watch Bravo?

[Ria]

Peacock.

[Odeya Rush]

I don't have Peacock.

[Ria]

You need my login. You know what I watch?

[Odeya Rush]

No. You know what I watched last summer? That was really good? Love Island.

[Ria]

Oh, the best. That was good. We went. We went.

[Odeya Rush]

What do you mean you went?

[Ria]

We went to Fiji. We were on After Sun.

[Odeya Rush]

No big deal. You did?

[Fran]

Yes.

[Odeya Rush]

What is. I don't know how to watch the. The, like, spin off.

[Ria]

It's on Peacock. Okay, I'm gonna send you my login.

[Odeya Rush]

I need the login. There's too many things.

[Ria]

I. I have everything.

[Odeya Rush]

You have everything?

[Ria]

Well, we. You know.

[Odeya Rush]

What do you watch? Housewives.

[Ria]

Some Housewives. Housewives of Rhode Island's new. Very good. Summer House is huge.

[Odeya Rush]

I don't know what that is.

[Ria]

Summer House is on Bravo. It's like every. They just go to a house in the Hamptons every summer, and they all like. Like, there's a lot of drama with it.

[Odeya Rush]

I've been seeing you guys post it, but I have no idea what it means. What's happening?

[Ria]

People are exes and stuff.

[Odeya Rush]

Oh, is that what happened?

[Ria]

Yeah, yeah, A lot of drama.

[Odeya Rush]

Confused. I'm like, who are these people? What's happening? It seems serious.

[Ria]

It is. It's serious. If you watch the show, it's serious. But Love Island's the best of the best.

[Odeya Rush]

That's the best. Love is Blind.

[Ria]

Love is Blind's always good.

[Odeya Rush]

Yeah, I've heard this season is really good.

[Ria]

Yeah, I haven't seen the. This one was really good. You know what's funny with Love is Blind? Like, the people that go on that show have so many people watching it. Like, you watch any interview of any famous person ever, and they're like, yeah, I watched Love is Blind. But then the people from the show don't become that famous. You know, it kind of like. It's not like Love is Blind, but

[Odeya Rush]

they're not trying to. Love is Blind is, like, the most normal. But no, I feel like it's people that, like, live in, you know, small towns and they don't have, like, finance jobs, right?

[Ria]

And they kind of just go back. Some of them are trying to make it and just doesn't hit, you know, it doesn't hit. Not like Love Island.

[Odeya Rush]

Well, Love island is so also, like, shock value. It's like the, you know, mamacita thing. Like, they try to say stuff that's very, like, memes. Exactly. Like, tick tock sounds.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Odeya Rush]

Versus, to me, Love is Blind feels more genuine in the sense of, like.

[Ria]

Except, like, they don't see each other. And then they do, and they're like, ew.

[Odeya Rush]

Yeah. Do those couples make it?

[Ria]

Some of them are, like, married and have kids. That's beautiful. This past season, no one made it.

[Odeya Rush]

Spoiler.

[Ria]

Oh, no. It's over now. This one was a rough One, the one before wasn't. The guys were just huge assholes. Like they really were.

[Fran]

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[Ria]

But wait, you mentioned directing for a moment. You are a director yourself? Yeah. How exciting is that?

[Odeya Rush]

I mean, that's what I grew up doing. Cause I have four younger brothers.

[Ria]

So you're the only girl?

[Odeya Rush]

I'm the only girl. I have two older brothers, too. I have six brothers.

[Ria]

Six brothers?

[Fran]

Yes.

[Odeya Rush]

I have six brothers. And when they were younger and I could kind of like force them to do stuff now they grew up and they're into sports now, and I can't dress them up as girls. But, like, growing up, I'm like, okay, now we're doing a play. Now we're doing a movie. I just found my old iPad, actually, and I would like. That was pretty good. I would direct them in a lot of stuff. And, like, the editing was really nice. But I started off before I was professionally acting. I was making movies or writing plays. And I directed a short when I was 18. And I've directed music videos. And I want to get. I've been so busy with acting, but I want to make a feature. But it has to be, like. Has to be really good.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Odeya Rush]

So I. I don't have ideas right now.

[Ria]

Right. I. That is so cool. And I feel like it's something I'm interested in more too, is more like the writing and directing aspect of doing a movie TV show. We're seeing so many adaptations, right. Of, like, books or even just, like, people who do podcasts. Like, we're seeing Jake Shane has a show on Hulu. We got Hannah and Peach from Giggly Squad getting a show on Netflix.

[Odeya Rush]

And I'm like, but these are the celebrities, right? And you know what I mean, if

[Ria]

you know the right people and have the right connections. I feel like you can get something made, you know?

[Odeya Rush]

Yeah, exactly. Well, I feel like now it's just about eyeballs and it's about what gets attention.

[Ria]

Right.

[Odeya Rush]

These podcasts get more attention sometimes than, like, a limited series, you know, and then everybody knows the people from these vertical shows or at least podcasts, so. And I feel like if you are able to be entertaining enough to hold your own podcast, like Jake Shane, like, he's funny enough, then you're talented enough to be a comedic actor. You know what I mean? Or if you're like a big YouTuber that you're good at editing, you're good at storytelling, it's kind of the same. It's a similar skill set.

[Ria]

Right. Because you are kind of putting on not a character, but you have to get in the zone of, like, when you are recording, you're very real there. I mean, I get on the show sometimes and I'm like, I'm fucking tired and I have my period and I'm in a bad mood. But there are a lot of times where you. Someone, you could be having a bad day, but you come in and you're like, this is. I'm gonna be entertaining. I'm gonna be. I'm gonna put on a show right now. I always joke that being a podcast host is the best of both worlds, because we do, like, live shows where we get on stage, and I'm like, I don't have the pressure of being a comedian, but I get up there and I say a lot of jokes and people laugh, and that's great. But they're not expecting it so much because I don't brand myself as a comedian. If you brand yourself as a comedian, that's rough. That's a lot of pressure.

[Odeya Rush]

Exactly.

[Ria]

It's so much pressure to, like, actually be funny.

[Odeya Rush]

Yeah.

[Ria]

When you're a podcast host and you just happen to be funny, and it's like, oh, my God, you could do anything.

[Odeya Rush]

Yeah, exactly. Because with comedy, it's like, it's black or white. It's like you made them laugh or you didn't make them laugh, you know?

[Ria]

And that's like. Can be really uncomfortable when you, like, say something in front of a crowd and they don't terrifying laugh and you're like, terrifying, and then you feel like you have to explain it. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Odeya Rush]

And that makes it worse.

[Ria]

Oh, it makes it so much worse. I do that on here too, where I'm like. I'm just. Sometimes you can edit it out. Yeah. No, a lot. I cut it out a lot. But sometimes I feel like I want to get something out there, and I say, like, I'm just kidding, because I'm afraid. Because sometimes you get nervous that people aren't gonna get that you're kidding, and then it kind of ruins the joke, and I'm like, I just ruined my own thing.

[Odeya Rush]

Yeah. You know, well, you can cut it maybe.

[Ria]

Yeah. Well, listen, we're real here. That's what you said about the podcast. You know, it's all genuine stuff. Stuff. But I'm so excited for you, and I love following along. I. It's so funny because we haven't seen each other since we were 14. Yeah. But I'm always bragging about you and telling, oh, my God, you were in class together and. And everything, and you haven't changed. Oh, my God. Yes.

[Odeya Rush]

You didn't let it get to your head.

[Ria]

Oh, my God.

[Odeya Rush]

Thanks.

[Ria]

You too.

[Fran]

Thank you.

[Ria]

Yeah. This ginormous podcast really got to me. It is by.

[Odeya Rush]

By the way.

[Fran]

It is.

[Odeya Rush]

I see all the guests you have on, and I see the. It's not just that. It's like, the. What's so difficult is, like, the consistency.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Odeya Rush]

We've been doing it to not fall off.

[Ria]

It is hard. And when we started the podcast, it was so funny. Cause Fran and I were like, everyone has a podcast. But that was in 2017. Now everyone has a podcast. Literally. But then it actually wasn't. So, you know, and we've. We've only done more and more as years go on. So.

[Odeya Rush]

Are you guys frustrated friends?

[Ria]

Yeah. Wait. Yeah. That's so funny. People always ask us. We're literally best friends.

[Odeya Rush]

Oh, so you started it, but we started.

[Ria]

No, we started working here. Okay.

[Odeya Rush]

Okay. That's what I mean.

[Ria]

Fran came in, like, six months after me, and we were, like, two of the only girls.

[Odeya Rush]

Yeah.

[Ria]

And we kind of just like bonded over our love of, like, pop culture and whatever. And we ended up making, like, just one minute clips on Instagram, like chicks in the office.

[Odeya Rush]

Right, right, right.

[Ria]

And then it turned into a radio show and a Snapchat show and the podcast. And then we went from. During COVID We went from I think it was one or two times a week to three times a week. And now we're. It's so funny because people. We actually had one of our live show guests, Ashley Hesseltine Heseltine. I always. I always say Ashley Hess. And I think Heseltine is from Girls Gotta eat. She does a huge podcast as well. And she was this Special guest. And she looked at me and friend goes. Are you guys, like, actually friends? And we're like, no, we're literally best friends. It's so funny because there's so much, like, drama now.

[Odeya Rush]

Yeah.

[Ria]

You know, like, people think the podcast world. The podcast world is. We got falling outs and a lot of TikTok drama.

[Fran]

I mean, it's.

[Odeya Rush]

It's a business too.

[Ria]

It is. We do technically, like, Chicks in the Office is a part of Barstool, but Dave always tells us to run Chicks in the Office as if we're running our own business. So we do basically run a business together. But, like, we. We work very similarly, and it's all about. We always say it's all about having the same morals and value and all those things. And, like, we just. Even though our personalities are so different at times or a lot of times, we are, like, have the same, you know.

[Odeya Rush]

Well, that's good if you're a little different.

[Ria]

Oh, we are.

[Odeya Rush]

Cause then you'll clash.

[Ria]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Odeya Rush]

But is that hard to. Cause you said you guys are best friends. Are you hanging out all the time and working all the time?

[Ria]

We spend a lot of work time together. Because we are. It seems like we're always at work. Honestly, what would you like? I feel like Fran and I, we hang out a lot with, like, our husbands.

[Odeya Rush]

Oh, you're both married?

[Fran]

Yes.

[Odeya Rush]

Okay.

[Ria]

And so we'll do, like, if we're hanging out outside of work, it's like double dates and they're friends.

[Odeya Rush]

Your husband?

[Ria]

Yeah. And we'll go, like, on vacation together.

[Odeya Rush]

Yeah.

[Ria]

Like, we literally do spend, like, vacate. Like, people are like, we. You're spending your time off, like, together. Not all the time, but we do a lot of work. You know, we'll, like, go to work parties or whatever. But it is funny. Then I go out with Noah all the time too, and we have our own little group of stuff. Honestly. That's great.

[Odeya Rush]

The fact that you can, like, you

[Noah]

get to talk about it on the podcast afterwards.

[Ria]

Yeah.

[Odeya Rush]

That's how it is. Being on set, by the way. Like, if you. If you're working on the corporate retreat, let's say, like, we're all the same age. We're all genuinely became friends. And that's like the best part, to go home and, like, talk shit about what happened, you know?

[Fran]

Yeah.

[Ria]

And that's how here it is here at Barstool, and right now they're doing, like, a reality show. They did it in the summer and it was like summer house. Now they're doing spring break so that a bunch of, like, people who work here are in Vegas together. And. And basically, the point is, like, hook up, fight, the whole thing.

[Odeya Rush]

Okay.

[Ria]

But, like, they're pulling the whole, like, we're a family dynamic right now. And my boss is like, no, I want you guys to fight with each other. Like, this is a reality show. Like, we need the juice. So. It is.

[Odeya Rush]

That's messy.

[Ria]

It is. Oh, yeah. Yeah. This place is gonna be messy. Yeah.

[Odeya Rush]

I didn't realize.

[Ria]

I don't know how this works. Yeah, it's juicy. It is. I'm so excited for you, though. And I'm so excited for Memory of a Killer being renewed. My parents are going to be hyped about that one. Yeah.

[Fran]

Tell them I say hi.

[Ria]

I will. My mom's going to be like, I want that cigarette back.

[Odeya Rush]

Oh, Daya, I will buy her a pack. I can afford it now.

[Ria]

But what about Peacock?

[Fran]

That. You know, that's more principle.

[Ria]

You know what the thing is, they're just. They keep upping it.

[Odeya Rush]

That's the problem. They keep getting me. And then it's like, because my whole family. I don't know if this is you, but I like, I supply the family Netflix. And the family, well, they're like, she's in the movies.

[Ria]

She's supplying the streaming services.

[Odeya Rush]

Exactly. So it's just like, it's too much. Someone else needs to pick up the slack.

[Ria]

Yeah, one of your six brothers.

[Odeya Rush]

Exactly. One of them does the Spotify.

[Ria]

That's fair.

[Odeya Rush]

But the someone else needs to do the Peacock.

[Ria]

Yeah, okay. That's fair. And if not, I'll give you my login. Don't worry.

[Odeya Rush]

I'll text you.

[Ria]

Thank you. Yes, Odeyah, thank you so much.

[Odeya Rush]

Everybody.

[Ria]

Stream Memory of a Killer on Hulu. So fun. And watch Corporate Retreat. When does it come out?

[Odeya Rush]

May 22nd.

[Ria]

Amazing. Theaters in theaters. So fun. Me and Noah were just talking about going to the movies. Whole other experience really adds an amazing element to it.

[Odeya Rush]

You have to.

[Ria]

You have to do it. Don't forget. Exactly.

[Fran]

All right.

[Ria]

Thank you so much.

[Odeya Rush]

Yeah.

[Fran]

Thank you.

[Ria]

Yay.

[Odeya Rush]

Yay.

[Ria]

All right, that wraps up today's episode of Chicks in the Office. Thank you so much for watching and listening. We love you guys so very much. And we'll talk to you on Friday. Yeah. Chicks in the Office.

[Noah]

Longtime listener, first time caller.

[Ria]

Look at the charts.

[Odeya Rush]

Who does it.

[Ria]

The best two chicks getting paid in reality checks. You can find them at the gym. It's not even a flex. Last minute red carpet flew them out on the jet yeah, they're who you want to be they're always on your screen Two queens and they might be spilling royalty A lot of topics that are popping here to get into I know a show that you probably want to listen? Who turn the heat up? Turn the beat up? Record the pod, made a bag, put their feet up the ones that leave no crumbs when they clean up? Who's the pod that they all want to meet up? Who turned the heat up? Turn the beat up Record the pod made a bag, put their feet up the ones that leave no crumbs when they clean up who's the pod that they all want to meet up? Sam.