← Chief Change Officer
Chief Change Officer
Athena Brownson: Shifting Mindpower to Rebuild Life After an 8-Year Battle with Lyme Disease — Part Two
00:25:01
Athena Brownson was crushing it in real estate—until Lyme disease threw a major curveball her way. In Part 1, she opens up about the daily battles with chronic pain and endless treatments, and in Part 2, she shares how she shifted her mindset to rebuild her career and find joy again. Join us to hear Athena’s inspiring journey of grit, growth, and finding strength in the little things.
Loading summary
Transcript42 lines
- [00:01]
John Smith
At ExactSciences, we're enabling the next era of personalized cancer care. Through our growing portfolio of genomic tests, we are helping to enable intelligent and individualized oncology decisions. Precisioncology.exactsciences.com this is a PSA, or public sock announcement.
- [00:19]
Sarah Johnson
Experts have declared Bombas socks as the best way to warm up chilly feet. These pairs are super cushy, soft and designed for maximum coziness. Plus, for every pair purchased, another pair will be donated so someone in need of essential clothing can stay warm this winter. Go to bambas.com listen and use code listen for 20% off your first purchase. That's bombas.com listen and use code Listen at checkout.
- [00:46]
Emily Davis
Sweetheart, what about this one?
- [00:48]
Michael Brown
Um nah fam, that's a little sus.
- [00:50]
Jessica Wilson
Shopping with teenagers can be hard between figuring out what they like and what they mean. But with Walmart, at least shopping for their next pair of glasses is easy. With the Walmart app, you can virtually try on frames at home, upload prescriptions, and get new glasses delivered right to your door. It's an easier way to get stylish glasses they'll actually like.
- [01:08]
Michael Brown
Now these new glasses Total vibes.
- [01:11]
Jessica Wilson
Buying new glasses has a new look. Welcome to your Walmart. Valid prescription required.
- [01:16]
Sarah Johnson
Professionals spend nearly half the work week on written communication, so focus is important. With Grammarly as your AI writing partner, focus and quickly get through work with relevant real time suggestions. And it works across 500,000 apps and websites so you can sound more confident and persuasive wherever you write. 93% of professionals report that Grammarly helps them get more work done. Download Grammarly for free@Grammarly.com podcast that's Grammarly.com podcast.
- [01:58]
Vince Chen
Hi everyone. Welcome to our show. Chief Change Officer, I'm Vince Chen, your ambitious human host. Our show is a modernist community for change, progressives in organizational and human transformation. Today I'm talking to Athena Bronson, a real estate agent from Denver, Colorado. Nope, we are not talking about real estate. Instead, we dive into her extraordinary journey of resilience at the peak of her real estate career. Feeling invincible and unstoppable, Athena's life took unexpected turn. Strange health issues appeared and she was eventually diagnosed with Lyme disease, a condition that would change everything. For the past seven years, Athena has lived in chronic pain, relying on plasma transfusions 4 days each month just to keep going. Her life has revolved around battling this disease, something she never imagined facing. As she says, if life didn't give us adversity and challenges, this story is too Powerful and real for just one episode. In part one, Athena shares her experience with Lyme disease, a condition that remains poorly understood but has profoundly impacted her health. She will talk about how she coughed, what she's endured, and the fight to survive. Today in part two, Athena will share how she not only survived, but found ways to thrive, rebuild her support system, and grow her career once again. I really resonate with what you said about being our biggest advocate, especially in tough times. We hear a lot about IQ and eq, emotional question, emotional intelligence. But there's another measure, adversity quotient, or aq, which seems less talked about, yet so crucial. I think we are all starting to see how important it really is. Your experience is a powerful example of this. Physical pain is intense and medications might help here and there, maybe make sleep easier, but that's only part of it, is the mental resilience that really keeps us going. Especially in those moments when you are alone in pain, facing it all. What stands out from what you've just shared is how you found ways to mentally change your focus, even on the small things to help you stay grounded. It seems like that's been your best defense and maybe even your offense. Does that feel accurate?
- [06:25]
Michael Brown
You couldn't say it better. I think that is a beautiful way of putting it. I completely agree. I believe that the mental aspect of it is at least 50% of the challenge, that our brains are wired that in a way that if we continue to think a certain thought, whether that's I'm in pain or I don't want to do this, I don't feel good, I don't want to. I don't want to get out of bed. When we're continually reinforcing those thoughts, we will have those thoughts. Because when you're in pain, you're in pain and your brain notices that. And unfortunately, that's an unavoidable truth. But when we pair that with how am I creating new neural pathways, like, how am I creating positive affirmations in my life? How am I surrounding myself with positivity? What am I in ingesting when it comes to what I'm listening to, what information I'm taking in the people that I'm spending time with? For me, having routines is huge. So I talk about having your toolkit to get through challenging times. Something for me that is really critical for my mental health and thus my physical health, because they do go so hand in hand is having my morning and evening routines. And that involves doing breathwork and meditation. That involves having time to journal and write out my affirmations and write out my goals. I'm constantly writing out like I am healthy, I am healing, my body feels great because I want to tell my brain that I am doing okay. I want to convince myself that my body can get through this. Because when I can convince my mind and nervous system that I'm going to be okay and that there's an end goal and I keep my eyes on, really looking forward instead of downwards into the current state that I'm in, that is where we're able to keep. I really believe that you're able to create more healing in the body physically when you're mentally working on strengthening your mentality. And my. I have many doctors like my pain doctor. For instance, last week we did a class on breath work and there's been a huge number of studies done that show that when you're in pain and your nervous system is active and is in fight or flight mode, so frequently due to illness or pain, whatever you're going through, it's easy for your brain to get stuck in that pattern. So it's up to us to make sure that we're doing the work to teach our brains and our nervous system that we're okay and we're gonna get through this. And it's a challenge. And like I said, there will be good days, there will be bad days. But I believe that having routines and being able to stay goal oriented in any aspect of your life is absolutely critical for overcoming adversity.
- [10:01]
Vince Chen
You've talked about how you help yourself normalize the situation so that life and work could go on. You kept earning, kept things moving, especially with those high medical costs. Even with insurance, it still adds up. But beyond that, you mentioned the importance of building a support system with mentors, coaches and others, which I think is crucial. Can you share more about how you started building that from scratch and how you went about finding the right people, those who really became the perfect fit for your journey. Eventually, it seems like it grew into a really strong support system. One that not only provided you the help you needed, but also gave you a true sense of community.
- [11:12]
Michael Brown
I love this. Yes. So I firmly believe that I would not be where I am today, in business, in life, in anything without the people that I am surrounded by. And as an only child and a professional skier, I was a one man sport, a one person activity all the time. Being an only child, I didn't have siblings to delegate or really understand how delegation works. So for me, building out the right team was something that I continued to work on was a huge challenge for me because I was a athlete that believed that I could get everything done myself, that it was my job to make sure that I did everything perfectly. The truth of the matter is there is absolutely no way of getting through any of anything in life by yourself, let alone a real estate career, which is extremely taxing. I would say there was. You could work 24 hours a day and still have a 24 hour to do list easily. And then taken me a lot of coaching, a lot of surrounding myself with people that have taught me really the art of delegation and the art of understanding that we are not going to always be the best at everything. We need to know what our strengths are and what our weaknesses are, because we all have strengths and we should be focusing on those. And our strengths might be someone else's weaknesses or their strengths, our weaknesses. So by, by assessing really who we are, what we're good at, what we're not good at. And for me, coaching has always been really important because as an athlete I learned that a discipline and accountability. But having someone that can look over your business or your life, whatever it is that you're doing and help you see where your blind spots are, help you understand and build the path that you want to be on and understand what your strengths are that you should be focusing on, you have to understand that about yourself before you can attract or bring in the right people around you. So for me, coaching was absolutely paramount and it continues to be. And I continue to learn how to delegate because I still have a tendency to want to get everything done by myself. But Elements has taught me that I don't have the physical stamina to do everything. And nor should I, because there are people around me that are much better at certain activities than I am. So for me to be trying to do those activities is actually robbing them of the opportunity to really thrive at something that they love. So it's taken me a good decade, I would say, to build a team of people that I look around me and I know that the people on my team would absolutely do anything for me. They want nothing more than for me to get my health back and they support me unconditionally through my treatments. And they take amazing care of our clients. Honestly, my executive assistant, I like to call her my boss because her skillset is so vast and incredible and the complete opposite of mine. I wouldn't be able to get any of this, anything done without her honestly. So understanding that we're not meant to do life alone we're meant to do life in community, whatever that may be, whether it's at work or outside of work. For me, my business has become my family. It is a very demanding business. Real estate is to perform at a high level. We work very hard. But the most important thing that I've learned and I had to learn and continue to learn the hard way through not having the physical ability to do everything is understanding that we're not supposed to be able to do it all ourselves. And when we can find like minded individuals that have similar visions in terms of why they're doing business and what motivates them and really find the people, I like to call them like your tribe, who are the people that have your back unconditionally. They care just as much as you do about the business or about your clients or whatever it may be as you do. And it's taken me years and years to find those people. But now that I have, it's truly the only reason that I'm able to continue forward with having a really successful business is because I have people around me that not only care about me and my health and making sure that I'm able to take care of myself if I'm not able to get out of bed one day. I know that these people have my back and that they're going to take just as good of care of our clients. They want to build relationships. They put heart into everything that they do. And I honestly don't know what I would do without my amazing teenager. But it's taken years and years of coaching and therapy and mentors to help me understand that I can't do it all by myself and I need to. Delegation is actually giving someone the opportunity to be their best and to empower them. And I will continue to learn how to do it. But I believe in teamwork more than anything.
- [17:45]
Vince Chen
You shared so much today about building a support system. Rewiring your mindset and finding ways to move forward is incredibly helpful for those out there who might be in the middle of a live transition just like you were. They don't have a support system yet. They're still feeling stuck and they are struggling with that rewiring process. What would you say to them? What advice or encouragement would you offer to help them take that next step towards doing better, especially after listening to this episode.
- [18:34]
Michael Brown
Yeah. And what I would love nothing more is to be able to give people hope in whatever challenge or adversity that you're going through. But I would first say it's okay. It's okay to acknowledge when you're struggling and when you're going through hardship, there.
- [18:54]
Emily Davis
Is somewhat Getting engaged can be stressful. Getting the right ring won't be@blue nile.com the jewelers@bluenile.com have sparkled down to a science with beautiful lab grown diamonds worthy of your most brilliant moments. Their Lab grown diamonds are independently graded and guaranteed identical to natural diamonds and ready to ship to your door. Get $50 off your purchase of $500 or more with Code Pod at bluenile.com that's bluenile.com Code Pod for $50 off.
- [19:25]
John Smith
At Exact Sciences, we're enabling the next era of personalized cancer care. Through our growing portfolio of genomic tests, we are helping to enable intelligent and individualized oncology decisions. Precision oncology.exactsciences.com A toxic positivity that people.
- [19:44]
Michael Brown
Can say, oh, just don't think about it like, you'll be fine. No, it's acknowledge that you're going through a significant challenge, but don't allow yourself to get stuck there. And oftentimes I believe that we have a, a thought, a vision that we have to make all of these changes at one time, that all of a sudden we're supposed to have a completely new mindset and we're supposed to be able to have the ability to rewire our brains and we're not supposed to hurt and everything seems like it's supposed to all happen at once. But what I've learned is the key is to take baby steps steps every single day. If we can focus. One of my favorite books, Atomic Habits, talks about if we focus on being 1% better every day, then imagine how much that will accumulate over a year. If you're looking to get healthier, start by walking five minutes outside and then try six and then try 10, and then break everything into smaller steps. If you're looking to, you know, create routines in your life, for example, a morning routine, start with two things that you're going to consistently do every day and commit to them. And for me, I have to keep myself accountable by actually printing out my must dos and checking them off every day. Because if I don't keep, if I don't do that, I won't hold myself accountable to doing the things that I have to do to stay in a positive mindset or in a healthier place. So find what small items in your life activities that you can implement and that you can commit to implementing that are going to be small at first, but over time those small changes that you hold yourself accountable to are going to add up to being completely life changing changes. And before you know it, the amount of growth and change and development that you can create by having these small routines and being 1% better than you were the day before, these are going to add up to monumental changes in your life. And I promise that it's going to. It's going to help you get through whatever challenge it is because you have something positive to focus on. And when you have something positive to focus on, you can get through any challenge that life throws your way. And I truly believe that.
- [22:46]
Vince Chen
One thing I add to that is when you are practicing this mindset shift and making those small changes or steps forward, make it Visible. Grab an actual notebook. Not on a computer, but a real paper notebook and pen or even a board you can put up on the wall. Write down each small win, check it off and create a visual reminder that says I did it. That simple action of writing, seeing those check marks and having a visual cue of your progress can really inform that sense of accomplishment, I think is a powerful way to feel and see your growth over time.
- [23:51]
Michael Brown
I completely agree. I write everything down by hand in a notebook. I believe that if you see yourself writing it, it gets into your brain and you're able to visualize it and internalize it in a completely different way. Thank you for adding that. Because I have a journal that I bring with me everywhere to write my positive affirmations and my goals. It makes a huge difference and I really believe in the power of using just a pen and paper, which is something everyone can do. But these are tools that we have at our fingertips to hold ourselves accountable to being the best that we can be, no matter the situation that we're in.
- [24:36]
Vince Chen
The power of pen and paper does something to it. Put your smartphone aside, really engage with the old school pen and paper. Writing things down this way makes it feel more real, more lasting.
- [24:55]
Michael Brown
100%. You just gave me the biggest smile because I am a huge supporter of writing every it needs to be hand paper. Put your phone away and go. Just make it simple.
- [25:12]
Vince Chen
Jodie Foster once said, all you need to make a movie is pen, paper and confidence. Despite her success as an actor, she didn't step into directing until later in her career, initially thinking she needed to master every technical detail. But as she shared in her masterclass, she realized that those three essentials, pen, paper and confidence were all she needed to start. It's such a powerful reminder how simplicity and self belief can be the true foundation for creating something meaningful and sustainable.
- [26:05]
Michael Brown
That is beautiful.
- [26:07]
Vince Chen
Of course I know all the scripts were crafted by a copywriter, but it felt so authentic. I believe she was speaking directly from her heart and her experience.
- [26:23]
Michael Brown
It's so powerful.
- [26:26]
Vince Chen
So I'll leave you with that and share it with my listeners too. Pen, paper, that's power in them. A journal as well by the way. And of course a bit of confidence. Thank you so much Athena. Thank you for your time and sharing.
- [26:44]
Michael Brown
Thank you. I appreciate your time and I hope you have a wonderful rest of your day and I hope this inspires anyone out there. Please feel free to contact me if you need support.
- [26:58]
Vince Chen
Thank you so much for joining us today. If you like what you heard, don't forget, subscribe to our show, Leave us top rated reviews. Check out our website and follow me on social media. I'm Vin, your ambitious human host. Until next time, take care.
- [27:34]
John Smith
At Exact Sciences, we're on a mission to outsmart cancer. Through our growing portfolio of genomic tests, we are helping to enable more informed, intelligent and individualized oncology decisions. Insights from the Oncotype DX Breast Recurrence Score test, the Oncoxtra test and more are changing how cancer is treated for more than 1.5 million patients. See how we're enabling the next era of personalized cancer care@precisiononcology.exactsciences.com Building a business.
- [28:05]
Emily Davis
May feel like a big jump, but Ondeck small business loans can help keep you afloat. With lines of credit up to $100,000 and term loans up to 250,000, OnDeck lets you choose the loan that's right for your business. As a top rated online small business lender, OnDeck's team of loan advisors can help you find the right business loan to fit your needs. Visit ondeck.com for more information. Depending on certain loan attributes, your business loan may be issued by On Deck or Celtic Bank. Ondeck does not lend in North Dakota, all loans and amounts subject to lender approval.
- [28:35]
David Lee
So you want to be a marketer? It's easy. You just have to score a ton of leads and figure out a way to turn them all into customers. Plus manage a dozen channels, write a million blogs and launch a hundred campaigns all at once. When that's done, simply make your socials go viral and bring in record profits. No sweat. Okay, fine, it's a lot of Sweat. But with HubSpot's AI powered marketing tools, launching benchmark breaking campaigns is easier than ever. Get started@HubSpot.com marketers.
- [29:06]
Emily Davis
Sweetheart, what about this one?
- [29:08]
Michael Brown
Um, nah fam. That's a little sus.
- [29:11]
Jessica Wilson
Shopping with teenagers can be hard between figuring out what they like and what they mean. But with Walmart, at least shopping for their next pair of glasses is easy. With the Walmart app, you can virtually try on frames at home, upload prescriptions, and get new glasses delivered right to your door. It's an easier way to get stylish glasses they'll actually like.
- [29:28]
Michael Brown
Now these new glasses Total vibes.
- [29:31]
Jessica Wilson
Buying new glasses has a new look. Welcome to your Walmart. Valid prescription required.
- [29:37]
John Smith
So many options for toilet paper, quintuple ply.
- [29:40]
Vince Chen
This roll is titanium in forest.
- [29:42]
John Smith
This one is made from elderly trees. Is that good?
- [29:45]
Sarah Johnson
Just grab AngelSoft. It's simple, soft and strong.
- [29:48]
Vince Chen
And for any budget, AngelSoft soft and strong.
- [29:51]
Michael Brown
Simple.