Chief Change Officer Podcast Summary Episode: Chris Schrader: Turning a Modest Charity into an 8-Figure Marathon for Change – Part Two Release Date: January 17, 2025 Host: Vince Chan

Introduction

In the second part of his enlightening conversation with Chris Schrader, Vince Chen delves deeper into Chris's unique approach to leadership and team building, drawing insightful parallels between managing an expedition and running a successful business. This episode not only explores the challenges Chris has faced while scaling his charity, 24 Hour Race, into an impactful global movement but also offers valuable advice for aspiring leaders striving to balance personal fulfillment with professional ambitions.

Overcoming Challenges and Defining Purpose

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Chris Schrader opens up about the myriad of challenges his organization has encountered over the years. He distinguishes between existential challenges—such as defining the organization's core purpose—and incidental obstacles like security threats.

“We've honestly had hundreds of thousands of challenges and they can really span from existential through to incidental.”
— Chris Schrader [05:57]

Using the analogy of mountaineering, Chris explains how defining the organization's role is akin to determining the mountain's summit. This clarity helps navigate through immediate hurdles, much like climbers adjust their path when faced with unforeseen obstacles.

Philosophical Approach to Goal-Setting

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Chris shares his transformative experience of trekking across the Gobi Desert, where navigation challenges led him to adopt a Nietzschean philosophy. He emphasizes setting goals that are so significant that their pursuit remains worthwhile, even in the face of potential failure.

“Good goals guide your day-to-day decision making… What are goals that are so important that failure is expected and not a disappointment because the goal itself is just too important for that?”
— Chris Schrader [09:05]

This perspective encourages leaders to focus on overarching missions that inspire persistent effort and resilience.

Integrating Expedition Principles into Business Leadership

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Transitioning from expeditions to the for-profit sector, Chris discusses how principles learned from leading high-stakes adventures translate into effective business strategies. He underscores the importance of team dynamics, where the performance is only as strong as the weakest link.

“The first boat is only as fast as the second boat… your performance is not defined by your best players, it's defined by your weakest players.”
— Chris Schrader [12:57]

He contrasts the unforgiving nature of expeditions with the more forgiving business environment, highlighting the necessity of addressing team weaknesses promptly to maintain overall morale and efficiency.

The Essence of Servant Leadership

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Vince aptly describes Chris as a "servant leader," a concept Chris elaborates on by balancing humility with the need to build a compelling leadership image. He emphasizes that true leadership involves enabling team members to excel rather than overshadowing them.

“I'm effectively the secretary for the team. My job is to check in on everyone, make sure that they're aligned and get rid of any obstacles in their way so that they can do the best jobs possible.”
— Chris Schrader [19:45]

Chris further explains that effective leaders must address low performance decisively to preserve team integrity and motivation, drawing parallels to the life-or-death decisions made during expeditions.

“You nip that in the bud as soon as you sense that. Right. Whether it's with a particular plan or just understanding what's going on, you need to address that almost immediately.”
— Chris Schrader [21:11]

Balancing Personal Purpose with External Expectations

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In response to Vince's final question, Chris reflects on the influence of his family and personal philosophy in forging his unconventional career path. Growing up in Hong Kong, a place with rigid career expectations, his parents emphasized values over specific career choices, fostering his independent spirit.

“What I need to be is a really good son to my parents. And what I need to be is a really good partner to my girlfriend. And what I need to be is an excellent chairman for the 24 hour race.”
— Chris Schrader [27:42]

He advocates for a vitalist, Nietzschean approach to life, prioritizing present happiness and personal fulfillment while striving toward meaningful goals. Chris stresses the importance of making tangible positive impacts on the lives of those closest to you, rather than solely focusing on global figures.

“The easiest thing, even though it's not easy at all… is to create this kind of incredible but kind of minute change to people's lives versus the hardest thing is to look at the people around you today, your family, your friends, and to help those people in meaningful ways.”
— Chris Schrader [27:42]

Conclusion

This episode of Chief Change Officer offers a profound exploration of leadership through the lens of high-stakes expeditions and global business ventures. Chris Schrader's experiences underscore the importance of defining clear purposes, nurturing team dynamics, and maintaining personal integrity amidst external pressures. His insights provide a valuable roadmap for leaders aiming to drive meaningful change while fostering a supportive and resilient organizational culture.

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