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Nathaniel Collington Smith
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Sherlock Holmes
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Jenny Snell
Why is that? This is amazing.
Nathaniel Collington Smith
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Narrator
4, the last in a series of.
Sherlock Holmes
Five new cases inspired by references in the original stories of Sir Arthur Conan Doyle. The Further Adventures of Sherlock Holmes.
Nathaniel Collington Smith
Look around you, my young friend. A library is a perfect reflection of the ideal world. Every single volume in my care has its allotted place in the great scheme of things. Move one, even by an infinitesimal degree and you diminish its values. It is the relationship between facts which gives them their meaning. However well concealed, the truth is always there to be detected. At least that is my view. And I should like to think that you agree with me, Mr. Holmes.
Narrator
The saviour of Cripplegate Square by Bert Cos. With Clive Medicine as Sherlock Holmes and Andrew Sachs as Dr. John Watson. And featuring Tom Baker as Collington Smith, Siobhan Redmond as Mrs. Emily Gutteridge, David Holt as Tobias Gutteridge and Jasmine Hyde as Jenny Snell. The Saviour of Cripplegate Square.
Dr. John Watson
What a filthy night. God only knows what's going on under cover of that.
Sherlock Holmes
Crime, you mean?
Dr. John Watson
Yeah, of course.
Sherlock Holmes
Oh. Oh.
Dr. John Watson
Damn weather.
Sherlock Holmes
Not much, I'd wager. How's the old war wound?
Dr. John Watson
Oh, making its presence felt. What do you mean, not much?
Sherlock Holmes
It's fog. That's the criminal's friend. On a night like this, most self respecting villains are safely tucked up with a drink and a good smoke.
Dr. John Watson
Both of which they probably stole from some honest, hard working citizen.
Sherlock Holmes
Yes, no doubt.
Dr. John Watson
Brandy?
Sherlock Holmes
Second. Yeah. You don't mind?
Dr. John Watson
No, of course not. Take my mind off my damn shoulder.
Sherlock Holmes
Yeah, I'll do my best.
Dr. John Watson
Oh, no, don't stop.
Sherlock Holmes
Not too depressing for a cold winter's mate?
Dr. John Watson
I wouldn't have called it depressing. Plaintive.
Sherlock Holmes
Yes, plaintive. Very word A dying man lies alone, helplessly waiting for the woman he loves. For her sake, he's turned his back on everything. His friends, his country, his hopes for the future. And now he waits for her and she does not appear.
Dr. John Watson
What's it from?
Sherlock Holmes
Kristen and Isolde. A Hymn to Love and Death.
Dr. John Watson
Now he had a pretty bleak view of love, your Wagner.
Sherlock Holmes
It's a bleak emotion. Oh, come on. The Elizabethans have the right idea. To them, love was a disease. If you caught it, you were doomed.
Dr. John Watson
I'll stick to my definitions, thank you. Yeah.
Sherlock Holmes
Love is a positive force for good. Love brings out the best in man.
Dr. John Watson
Well, I think so.
Sherlock Holmes
You should have met Tobias and Emily Gutteridge.
Dr. John Watson
Who the devil were they?
Sherlock Holmes
The Gutteridges of Cripplegate Square?
Dr. John Watson
Yes.
Sherlock Holmes
They caught the disease.
Dr. John Watson
You mean they were in love?
Sherlock Holmes
Goes somewhat further than that. One of your cases, just before you and I met.
Dr. John Watson
Is it a good story?
Sherlock Holmes
Come on, Watson. If you want to hear it, say so.
Dr. John Watson
Of course I want to hear it.
Sherlock Holmes
A dark tale for a dark night. Very well, Doctor. Keep the brandy to hand. Light up a cigar and let me shatter your illusions about love.
Nathaniel Collington Smith
The Annals of crime. Police Review, 1880. Criminals and their Characteristics. A Survey of Delinquent behavior. Your books, Mr. Holmes.
Sherlock Holmes
Thank you, Mr. Smith. I don't believe I've ever mentioned Collington Smith.
Dr. John Watson
Never.
Sherlock Holmes
Nathaniel Collington Smith. He worked in the library at the British Museum when I came down from the university. I spent a good deal of time there, reading up on various subjects.
Dr. John Watson
Like the History of Crime.
Sherlock Holmes
It's an essential study for a detective. If they put in a book collection down to Scotland Yard, their success rate would soar.
Dr. John Watson
Only if you persuaded them to read the books.
Sherlock Holmes
Smith could have persuaded them. He had that rare combination. He not only possessed knowledge, he was able to infuse others with the thirst for it.
Nathaniel Collington Smith
If I might make a small comment.
Sherlock Holmes
Of course.
Nathaniel Collington Smith
Criminals and Their Characteristics. It is perhaps a trifle unsound.
Sherlock Holmes
You've read it?
Nathaniel Collington Smith
Oh, dear, no. Librarians don't read books, Mr. Holmes. They simply know about them.
Sherlock Holmes
Unsound?
Nathaniel Collington Smith
That's the general opinion. Sloppily argued from some highly dubious data.
Sherlock Holmes
Then please take it back. Why? I've no wish to clutter my mind with useless information.
Nathaniel Collington Smith
My dear sir, your mind may not have elastic walls, but it does at least possess both an entrance and an exit. Read the book. Decide for yourself what to retain. One can learn from the unsound as well as the sound, you know. Surely they taught you that up at the university.
Sherlock Holmes
Mr. Smith. Anyone foolish enough to have voiced that sentiment would have been rapidly removed from the building and confined as a lunatic. Really?
Nathaniel Collington Smith
Fascinating. What a good job I never went there.
Sherlock Holmes
He was a remarkable man.
Dr. John Watson
He sounds it.
Sherlock Holmes
Yes, I learned a good deal in that reading room and by no means all of it from the books.
Nathaniel Collington Smith
This is the finest place in the capital to study one's fellow man. In the course of a single morning. Here you can observe more characteristics than in a week outside. Only the other day I noticed. I heard nothing.
Sherlock Holmes
Oh sure, yes.
Jenny Snell
Listen.
Nathaniel Collington Smith
Ah, that's a woman crying.
Sherlock Holmes
I thought I was right. Probably one of the cleaning staff. I'm sorry, you were saying?
Nathaniel Collington Smith
Mr. Holmes, you disappoint me.
Sherlock Holmes
In what way?
Nathaniel Collington Smith
I believe it's emanating from that storeroom. Come with me. My dear child, what are you doing in here?
Jenny Snell
Sorry, sir. It won't happen again, sir. I'll get back to work.
Nathaniel Collington Smith
You'll do nothing of the sort, sir.
Sherlock Holmes
Sugar, sir?
Nathaniel Collington Smith
Do you take sugar?
Jenny Snell
Oh, no, sir, no thank you.
Nathaniel Collington Smith
Very well. Mr. Holmes, kindly pass over that plate of biscuits, will you?
Sherlock Holmes
Oh yes, of course. Here, I. I should be going.
Nathaniel Collington Smith
No, I think perhaps you should stay.
Sherlock Holmes
Very well.
Nathaniel Collington Smith
Excellent. Now, I am Nathaniel Collington Smith and this gentleman is Mr. Sherlock Holmes.
Sherlock Holmes
And you are?
Jenny Snell
Jenny, sir. Jenny Snell.
Nathaniel Collington Smith
Drink your tea, Ms. Snell.
Jenny Snell
I shouldn't be in here. If Ms. McCarthy finds out.
Nathaniel Collington Smith
Oh, you may safely leave Ms. McCarthy to me. Drink your tea, then Mr. Holmes will pour you some more. You can tell us what's wrong.
Jenny Snell
Yes, sir. Thank you, sir.
Sherlock Holmes
That was typical of the man. She wasn't a servant to him, just a soul in distress.
Dr. John Watson
What was the matter with the girl? Obviously it was nothing trivial.
Sherlock Holmes
How do you know that?
Dr. John Watson
Well, if it were, you'd hardly be telling me about it, would you? When do we get to the Gutteridges of Cripplegate Square?
Sherlock Holmes
Patience, Doctor, let the tale unfold at its own pace. That's better.
Nathaniel Collington Smith
Now, Ms. Snell, what is it that so upset you?
Jenny Snell
I can't tell you.
Sherlock Holmes
Is it something to do with your other job?
Jenny Snell
How did you know about that?
Sherlock Holmes
I've observed you once or twice, arriving here in the evenings as I was leaving. You always come wearing some sort of uniform. Obviously you have other employment.
Jenny Snell
During the day I'm a nursemaid. Well, not really a nursemaid, just sort of a cleaner really, like here. During the day I work at Gutridge's private orphanage in Clerkenwell. And have you heard of it?
Sherlock Holmes
No.
Jenny Snell
Mrs. Guttridge, she's the owner. She Takes in babies.
Sherlock Holmes
Orphans, presumably?
Jenny Snell
No, sir, not orphans. Though most of them might as well be within.
Sherlock Holmes
What?
Nathaniel Collington Smith
Unwanted children, Mr. Holmes.
Sherlock Holmes
Unwanted for what reason?
Nathaniel Collington Smith
There are many. Caste, space, social stigma, general encumbrance.
Sherlock Holmes
Good God.
Nathaniel Collington Smith
Something else they didn't teach you up at the university.
Sherlock Holmes
Yes.
Jenny Snell
Anyway, the women bring their babies to Mrs. Gutteridge and she takes them in.
Sherlock Holmes
So she's a philanthropist.
Nathaniel Collington Smith
So I think you'll find that money changes hands.
Dr. John Watson
Ah, baby farming. You're talking about baby farming?
Sherlock Holmes
The concept was totally new to me then. It was quite a shock.
Dr. John Watson
It's a shocking practice.
Sherlock Holmes
No, I mean it was a shock realizing how little I actually knew of life. Valuable lesson.
Dr. John Watson
Yeah, I'm sure it must have been. So this girl Jenny, worked for a baby farmer?
Sherlock Holmes
Yes.
Jenny Snell
The women pay so much a week, or sometimes they just make one donation.
Sherlock Holmes
And what happens to the children?
Jenny Snell
Mrs. Gutteridge looks after them until they're older. Then she finds people to take them.
Sherlock Holmes
I see. And something's happened to upset this arrangement?
Jenny Snell
Yes, sir.
Nathaniel Collington Smith
Something connected with Mrs. Gutridge?
Jenny Snell
No, sir, not her. Oh, it's her husband. Oh, he's a nasty piece of work, sir. Though I shouldn't say so.
Sherlock Holmes
Get out of here, girl. You've no business in here.
Jenny Snell
Please, sir. Mrs. Gutridge sent me to fetch some iodine, sir.
Sherlock Holmes
Iodine?
Jenny Snell
Yes, sir.
Sherlock Holmes
Very well.
Dr. John Watson
You fetch this yourself.
Sherlock Holmes
You understand I was not here.
Jenny Snell
Very good, sir. Thank you, sir.
Sherlock Holmes
Tell her otherwise and I'll see you're dismissed. Now go. Where did this conversation take place?
Jenny Snell
In one of the storerooms, sir, where the medicines and things are kept.
Sherlock Holmes
Interesting.
Nathaniel Collington Smith
Go on with your story, Jenny. Surely you're not so upset just because someone told you off.
Jenny Snell
If I was, I'd always be crying, sir. No, it's more than that.
Sherlock Holmes
Give us the facts.
Jenny Snell
Well, I'm not sure if I can. Not real facts, like.
Sherlock Holmes
Without the facts, how can we help you?
Nathaniel Collington Smith
Well, there's more to life than cold fact, Mr. Holmes. Jenny, suppose you tell us this in your own way.
Jenny Snell
Yes, sir. Well, there's something wrong in that house. Something very wrong. If it was just Mrs. Gutteridge, everything would be so different.
Sherlock Holmes
But it's her husband who causes you this alarm.
Jenny Snell
He hates them, sir. The poor little babies, he hates them.
Sherlock Holmes
For the love of God, can't you shut them up?
Jenny Snell
Some of them are sick, sir. Again? Mistress says they'll be over it soon.
Sherlock Holmes
Why she has to devote her life to this, I cannot tell.
Jenny Snell
She says they need her, sir. They need her.
Dr. John Watson
She was a rare woman. Most of them are only Interested in the money? The babies come a very poor second.
Sherlock Holmes
You speak from experience?
Dr. John Watson
Oh, indirectly. These people are supposed to be registered. Local doctors carry out regular checks. Oh, the stories I've heard.
Sherlock Holmes
Well, perhaps this one will be different.
Dr. John Watson
I hope it is.
Jenny Snell
There, that's good. That's nice. He'll have nothing to moan about now, will he? The old misery. Feeling better now, are you? Are you? Oh, no. Oh no. Oh, please, no.
Sherlock Holmes
How many of them were dead?
Jenny Snell
Three. And three who'd been sick. And, sir, this was the day after I saw Mr. Gutridge messing about with medicines the very next day. Ah, as cotton is heaven. Sirs, I. I think he killed them.
Dr. John Watson
It wouldn't be the first time, I'm afraid. Did the Gutridges have the babies insured?
Sherlock Holmes
As usual, you cut straight to the heart of the matter. Yes, they did.
Dr. John Watson
Was there a doctor's report?
Sherlock Holmes
Mrs. Gutteridge did everything by the letter of the law. The doctor was sent for straight away.
Dr. John Watson
And?
Sherlock Holmes
No obvious cause of death?
Dr. John Watson
It may not have been the most rigorous examination. Those East End practices are desperately overworked.
Sherlock Holmes
Some of the doctors there are not above taking money to turn a blind eye.
Dr. John Watson
That is a disgusting suggestion.
Sherlock Holmes
Which you know full well to be true. Every barrel has its rotten apples, Watson. They will always be so.
Dr. John Watson
Oh, yes, I'm afraid you're right. I take it you investigated this Gutteridge man then? Was it your first murder case?
Sherlock Holmes
Actually, I was reluctant to get involved. You must go to the police.
Jenny Snell
The police? I can't. Don't you know what happens to servants who criticise a master, Sir? I'll be out on my ear in no character. Then what would happen to me?
Sherlock Holmes
You have your job here.
Jenny Snell
Four hours work at fivepence a night. Could you live on that?
Nathaniel Collington Smith
No, he couldn't. I understand your problem, my dear.
Jenny Snell
There's something else, sir, Something I haven't said.
Nathaniel Collington Smith
And what is that?
Sherlock Holmes
She's afraid that Gutteridge knows of her suspicions.
Jenny Snell
That's it, sir. He knows I saw him doing it, whatever it was, with the medicines.
Sherlock Holmes
When was this?
Jenny Snell
Five days ago.
Nathaniel Collington Smith
Have you been into work there since?
Jenny Snell
Every day. I'd get the elbow otherwise.
Sherlock Holmes
You are a very brave young woman. Brave?
Jenny Snell
Not me, sir. I've been terrified. I can tell you straight.
Sherlock Holmes
Has Mr. Gutteridge said anything to you or done anything suspicious?
Jenny Snell
No, but I've kept away from him best I could.
Nathaniel Collington Smith
Very sensible of you. My young friend here will look into the matter.
Jenny Snell
Oh, sir.
Sherlock Holmes
Smith.
Jenny Snell
I'm ever so grateful, sir. I had to tell someone. I'm glad it was.
Nathaniel Collington Smith
You ever wonder what life is like with a phantom screen?
Sherlock Holmes
It's magic. It is? Oh, wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow, wow, wow.
Jenny Snell
What is that? It's amazing.
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Sherlock Holmes
Why did you say that to the girl?
Nathaniel Collington Smith
Well, my dear Mr. Holmes, surely you found her story interesting.
Sherlock Holmes
Of course. The girl is observant, intelligent, her suspicions are probably correct.
Nathaniel Collington Smith
And she appears to have great faith in your ability to help her. Which I share.
Sherlock Holmes
Thank you. The fact remains, I don't see what on earth I can do.
Nathaniel Collington Smith
You can stir yourself out from behind your books and look into the real world for a change. What sort of a detective turns his back on a possible murder case?
Sherlock Holmes
I can hardly march up to this woman's establishment and tell her I'm investigating three suspicious deaths.
Nathaniel Collington Smith
Of course you can't. But there are other ways. Put that brain of yours to use.
Jenny Snell
Good evening, sir. What's your pleasure?
Sherlock Holmes
Whiskey, please, and one for yourself.
Emily Gutteridge
Thank you, sir.
Sherlock Holmes
Pleasure to encounter a real gent for a change. There.
Emily Gutteridge
Best in the house.
Sherlock Holmes
Thank you.
Jenny Snell
Now, sir, what tickles your fancy? Big skinny, right for the plucking. What are you after?
Sherlock Holmes
What I'm after is information.
Emily Gutteridge
What sort of information?
Sherlock Holmes
Do you know a man called Gutteridge? It was a mistake, of course. She shut her mouth and didn't open it again.
Dr. John Watson
No. They're very suspicious of strangers in those parts, especially ones from up west.
Sherlock Holmes
So I discovered. It was a stupid miscalculation.
Nathaniel Collington Smith
Don't berate yourself. The basic idea was perfectly sound.
Sherlock Holmes
If you want the local gossip, go to the local palm. Just don't go dressed for the opera.
Nathaniel Collington Smith
I trust you didn't give up the quest quite that easily.
Sherlock Holmes
No, of course not. I waited until it was full dark and went round to the house itself. The area wasn't pleasant. Guttridge's private orphanage was a rambling old building set back from the street. It must have been quite a place in its day.
Dr. John Watson
Didn't you feel even more conspicuous there than in the publisher?
Sherlock Holmes
Oddly enough, no, I didn't. Evening wear is ideally suited to hiding in undergrowth. Every burglar should invest in a set of tails.
Emily Gutteridge
Easy now, easy. She'll be safe and well cared for. And you can come and visit her whenever you want.
Jenny Snell
I told you that I don't think I could bear it. I really don't.
Emily Gutteridge
I understand. But if you change your mind, there's always a welcome for you here.
Jenny Snell
You were so kind. Without you, I. I Would have had to.
Emily Gutteridge
There's no sense dwelling on mita beans.
Jenny Snell
Will it be all right going home? It's not far. I'll be quite safe. There, there, child.
Emily Gutteridge
It's mended. Everything's all right now.
Sherlock Holmes
It was immensely frustrating. I could see in the front door, but I couldn't learn anything of use. There's no sign of Mr. Gutteridge at all. If I'm going to see this thing through, I need to get inside.
Nathaniel Collington Smith
And how exactly do you propose to do that?
Sherlock Holmes
I don't know yet.
Nathaniel Collington Smith
If I might make a small suggestion?
Sherlock Holmes
Please do.
Nathaniel Collington Smith
This could be an ideal opportunity to put some of that expensive university experience to good use.
Sherlock Holmes
Applied chemistry.
Nathaniel Collington Smith
That wasn't what I had in mind.
Sherlock Holmes
No.
Nathaniel Collington Smith
Try to think in something other than straight lines.
Dr. John Watson
So that's where you got it from.
Sherlock Holmes
Watson, you're interrupting my flow.
Dr. John Watson
Got what from that infuriating expression? How many times have you told me to stop thinking in straight lines?
Sherlock Holmes
Very good advice.
Dr. John Watson
Well, did it work?
Sherlock Holmes
Actually, yes, it did. Oh, shit. Sorry, mate. Miles away. Yeah, the best place for all.
Jenny Snell
Right, all right.
Sherlock Holmes
Keep your shirt on. Some people. Right.
Dr. John Watson
Are you really saying.
Sherlock Holmes
What?
Dr. John Watson
No, no, no. Sorry, but this is fascinating. You're saying that was the very first time you ever used a disguise?
Nathaniel Collington Smith
Exactly.
Sherlock Holmes
So, thinking sideways, you see? What did I do at university? Apart from study? I acted.
Dr. John Watson
You've never told me that.
Sherlock Holmes
You never asked me. May I continue? You.
Dr. John Watson
No more interruptions, I promise. What did you find when you got to the orphanage?
Sherlock Holmes
What I expected to find. My primary suspect. Yes? I want to see Mrs. Gutteridge. What makes you think she's here? Oh, look, mate, don't mess me about. This is Gutteridge's private orphanage, right? Where else is she gonna be? Who are you? I'm someone who wants to see the proprietor. Look, please, please.
Jenny Snell
Who is it?
Emily Gutteridge
Toby?
Sherlock Holmes
It's someone for you.
Emily Gutteridge
Then why didn't you send Jenny to find me?
Sherlock Holmes
Good afternoon, Mrs. G. I was told.
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Sherlock Holmes
Mum. Albert Hawkins.
Emily Gutteridge
Now, Mr. Hawkins, you drink your tea and I'll tell you why you've come to me.
Sherlock Holmes
No.
Emily Gutteridge
There.
Sherlock Holmes
Oh, thanks. What do you mean, ma'? Am? You'll tell me.
Emily Gutteridge
My dear Mr. Hawkins, people only come here for one reason. The details vary, but the basic facts are always the same. Now, let me see. You're in work, yes?
Sherlock Holmes
Yes. Market supervisor.
Emily Gutteridge
Decent enough pay, but not enough to feed one more mouth.
Dr. John Watson
Am I right?
Sherlock Holmes
We've got five already. Look, no offense and all, but if there was any other way, I wouldn't be here.
Emily Gutteridge
You're not alone, Mr. Hawkins. Oh, no, you're definitely not alone. At least you didn't do something drastic.
Sherlock Holmes
I'd have nothing to do with that. No more with my else. I've seen one of those butchers do.
Emily Gutteridge
And so have I. I'm sorry to say we shan't mention it again. Does your wife know you're here?
Sherlock Holmes
Oh, yes.
Emily Gutteridge
Good. Well, we do have space at the moment. Would you like to see round the house?
Sherlock Holmes
Well, I wouldn't mind. Put my mind at rest, like.
Emily Gutteridge
Of course. Drink up your tea and I'll give you a tour. You made a good choice, Mr. Hawkins. I never take in more babies than I can cope with. Unlike some, I'm sorry to say.
Sherlock Holmes
We have heard stories, my else and me.
Emily Gutteridge
And some of them are undoubtedly true, I'm afraid.
Sherlock Holmes
What happens if they get sick?
Emily Gutteridge
I can care for most common illnesses myself. And of course, we're registered with a local doctor.
Sherlock Holmes
Oh, good. That's good. And they do look all right. Look at him sleeping so peaceful. Happy, isn't it? So I suppose all I need to know now.
Emily Gutteridge
Well, I think there's still some cherry cake downstairs. We can discuss the practicalities over some more tea.
Sherlock Holmes
Come along. The practicalities turned out to be threepence a day or a single payment of £5.
Nathaniel Collington Smith
Good Lord.
Sherlock Holmes
Yes, it was certainly more than the going rate. I checked. But it was a superior establishment.
Dr. John Watson
How many working class women could afford five pounds?
Sherlock Holmes
Well, when you consider the alternatives.
Dr. John Watson
I'm afraid the alternatives are the only way for most people in that position. Something's going to have to be done, you know, sooner or later.
Sherlock Holmes
I agree, but we're straying somewhat from the storeroom.
Dr. John Watson
Sorry, sir. Did you manage to see that medicine storeroom?
Sherlock Holmes
It would have been too out of character, I'm afraid. But I did at least succeed in getting another look at the alleged child killer. He was summoned to show me out. Your wife's a wonderful woman, Mr. Gutteridge.
Dr. John Watson
So I'm constantly being Told.
Sherlock Holmes
Oh, you must be proud of her.
Dr. John Watson
There are perhaps nobler ways to make a living.
Sherlock Holmes
I can't think of any. She's a real godsend, she is.
Dr. John Watson
Do you say, sir?
Sherlock Holmes
I do, sir. God bless her. And you too. Good day to you, Mr. Hawkins. Good day. There's a definite undercurrent of.
Jenny Snell
How can.
Sherlock Holmes
I'm not sure. Hate, possibly. Weariness, distaste. I'm not prepared to brand him as a murderer on the strength of it.
Nathaniel Collington Smith
I'm pleased to hear it.
Sherlock Holmes
I have to know what's in that medicine store.
Nathaniel Collington Smith
And how do you propose to find out?
Sherlock Holmes
I've thought of two separate ways. Neither of them is ideal. One is positively illegal and the other.
Jenny Snell
No, I can't, Jenny. I suppose he captures me and make.
Sherlock Holmes
Sure he's out of the way.
Jenny Snell
But I wouldn't know what to look for.
Sherlock Holmes
I'll give you a list.
Jenny Snell
A list? Oh, sir. What good's a list to me?
Sherlock Holmes
You can't read nor write.
Jenny Snell
No, sir, I can't.
Dr. John Watson
Thank God for it.
Sherlock Holmes
Hose.
Dr. John Watson
What the devil were you thinking of?
Sherlock Holmes
Collington. Smith used exactly those words.
Dr. John Watson
Good for him, to put that child into danger.
Sherlock Holmes
I had a perfectly foolproof diversion worked out.
Dr. John Watson
Did you?
Sherlock Holmes
As I said, it was a long time ago. I wouldn't do it now unless there.
Dr. John Watson
Was no other way.
Sherlock Holmes
The point is academic. I fall back on my second plan of attack.
Dr. John Watson
The illegal one.
Sherlock Holmes
Quite.
Dr. John Watson
I know exactly what it was.
Sherlock Holmes
Of course you do, Sam.
Nathaniel Collington Smith
Mr. Holmes, I cannot condone such blatant criminal activity. Unless, of course, it yielded the desired result.
Sherlock Holmes
Arsenic. He's been concentrating pure arsenic and storing it in unmarked bottles in a locked cupboard.
Nathaniel Collington Smith
Then young Miss Snell was quite correct.
Sherlock Holmes
Looks like it.
Nathaniel Collington Smith
What will you do now?
Sherlock Holmes
There's one more piece of evidence I need.
Dr. John Watson
And then.
Sherlock Holmes
Then my case will be complete.
Dr. John Watson
A detective, do you mean? From Scotland Yard?
Sherlock Holmes
A private detective. Are you sick? Injured? No, sir. I have a room full of patients out there and a hundred more waiting.
Dr. John Watson
To take their place. I don't mean to be rude, but.
Sherlock Holmes
I have no time to play games. This is no game. You are the official medical examiner for Gutteridge's Orphanage, are you not? What about it? I have been commissioned to investigate the recent deaths of three infants. Mr. Holmes. Sherlock Holmes. Mr. Holmes, when you leave my rooms, look around you.
Dr. John Watson
Look at the filth and the squalor and the hunger and ask yourself, which is the stranger?
Sherlock Holmes
The children die or that they manage to live? Have you seen inside Mrs. Guttridge's establishment? Have you met the lady herself. Yes, I have. Then you'll know that the children there live like royalty compared to most.
Dr. John Watson
I have seen Mrs. Gutteridge take in.
Sherlock Holmes
Babies who are more bone than flesh. If some of them don't survive, then.
Dr. John Watson
Look outside that house for the cause.
Sherlock Holmes
Sir, not inside it.
Dr. John Watson
Now, if you don't mind, I have.
Sherlock Holmes
To do my best to help these people. Will you answer just two questions?
Dr. John Watson
If you will agree to ask them and then leave.
Sherlock Holmes
I agree. Then ask me your questions. Did you conduct a thorough examination of the dead babies?
Dr. John Watson
Now, Sarah, as my time and my resources permitted, yes, I did.
Sherlock Holmes
And did you detect any signs at all of arsenical poisoning? Arsenic? Good God now. Not a trace.
Dr. John Watson
You believed him?
Sherlock Holmes
I was impressed with him. I've said to you before now that when a doctor goes wrong, he makes a formidable criminal.
Dr. John Watson
Yes, you have. I can't say I was flattered.
Sherlock Holmes
Perhaps this will redress the balance. In all my life, I have not met many people who are thoroughly decent, uncomplicated, good men. Of the ones I have met, several of them were doctors.
Nathaniel Collington Smith
You appear to have arrived at something of an impasse, my friend.
Sherlock Holmes
Why else is arsenic there if not to kill all those children? Rats. Not even buy poison for vermin over the counter at any chemist's shop. If I read the evidence of right that arsenic was being produced in secret, then hidden away, then what do you.
Nathaniel Collington Smith
Propose to do now?
Sherlock Holmes
I suppose it could be nothing more than a coincidence. I have to talk to that girl again. Jenny.
Jenny Snell
Oh, sorry.
Sherlock Holmes
I didn't mean to stop.
Jenny Snell
Oh, it's not you, sir. It's me. I'm just frightened to any little noise. Now, you're not going to ask me to spy on him again, are you?
Sherlock Holmes
No, no, no, no, no. And I'm sorry about asking you before. It was wrong. Please forgive me.
Jenny Snell
Forgive you? Forgive.
Sherlock Holmes
My dear Ms. Snell. Please stop crying.
Jenny Snell
I'm sorry, sir. I'm really.
Sherlock Holmes
What's wrong?
Jenny Snell
Nothing's wrong. It's just. Well, people like me don't get apologized to, that's all.
Sherlock Holmes
Then you do forgive me?
Jenny Snell
Of course I do, sir. He was only trying to help me, after all.
Sherlock Holmes
Thank you.
Jenny Snell
So, what do you want this time?
Sherlock Holmes
I want to ask you this. When you surprise Mr. Gutteridge with the medicines, can you remember what he was doing? Exactly what he was doing. Well, it might help if you tell me what he was working with. Do you remember?
Jenny Snell
I'm not sure.
Sherlock Holmes
Recall the scene. Mrs. Gutteridge asked you to get some iodine.
Jenny Snell
That's right.
Sherlock Holmes
So you had to Stop what you were doing, what was that?
Jenny Snell
I was washing the sheets. I just put the clean ones on the beds and I was washing the old ones.
Sherlock Holmes
Very good. Very good. So you had stopped washing the sheets and you went to the medicine store. Was the door open or shut?
Jenny Snell
Shut. It was shut.
Sherlock Holmes
Excellent. Excellent. You pushed open the door and you saw Mr. Gutteridge. Was he facing you?
Jenny Snell
No, he had his back to the door. That's right. He was bending over the table, he turned around and he had fly papers. He was holding fly papers.
Dr. John Watson
Flypapers.
Sherlock Holmes
Made by impregnating a strip of paper with a weak solution of arsenic.
Dr. John Watson
Yes. Soak the paper in water, boil the solution dry, and what's left is pure, concentrated poison. Pretty damning conclusive.
Jenny Snell
There you are. Not too fast now.
Sherlock Holmes
Good.
Emily Gutteridge
When you've finished here, Jenny, collect up the bottles and leave them to soap.
Jenny Snell
Yes, Mum.
Emily Gutteridge
I'll be in the scullery if you need me.
Jenny Snell
Mum. Yes. You like that, don't you? Of course you do. That's the way you.
Sherlock Holmes
Girl.
Jenny Snell
Sir.
Sherlock Holmes
Stop there and come with me. I want to talk to you. Get in. Get in there.
Jenny Snell
No, no.
Sherlock Holmes
Quiet, girl. Go in, I say. Stop it. Listen to me. I want to know exactly what you saw in here the other day. You understand? Exactly.
Nathaniel Collington Smith
I'm afraid I have some disturbing news.
Sherlock Holmes
What news?
Nathaniel Collington Smith
I've been speaking to the cleaning supervisor. Jenny Snell hasn't come into work for the past four nights.
Sherlock Holmes
Oh, God, no. It didn't look good.
Dr. John Watson
What did you do?
Sherlock Holmes
I trusted that my disguise really had taken them in and went round to Gutteridge's orphanage as myself.
Dr. John Watson
Quite a risk.
Sherlock Holmes
It had to be done. Good afternoon. My name is Sherlock Holmes. I'm here to inquire about Miss Jennifer Snell. Then you better come in.
Nathaniel Collington Smith
What happened?
Sherlock Holmes
I was presented with this. Here.
Dr. John Watson
But surely.
Sherlock Holmes
Exactly. A fatal error. But what did it mean? Had he killed her too? The girl had been silenced. I'm afraid I could see no other explanation.
Dr. John Watson
What did you do?
Sherlock Holmes
To be honest, I wasn't sure what to do. I want to ask your advice.
Nathaniel Collington Smith
My advice? My dear sir, I'm just a tired old librarian too rapidly approaching an unwilling retirement. What can you possibly wish to ask me?
Sherlock Holmes
If I should go to the police with what I know or confront the murderer myself?
Dr. John Watson
What was Smith's advice to do?
Sherlock Holmes
Neither. Neither?
Dr. John Watson
Why on earth not?
Sherlock Holmes
For a very good reason which I'd completely overlooked.
Nathaniel Collington Smith
You're too eager to show off your cleverness. A calculating criminal has made a slip and Sherlock Holmes has detected it. Am I correct?
Sherlock Holmes
Well, yes, I suppose you are. But if I'm. If I'm right and the girl has.
Nathaniel Collington Smith
Been done away with, then justice must be done.
Sherlock Holmes
Of course.
Nathaniel Collington Smith
But it seems to me, Mr. Holmes, that you're proposing to confront your villain with only half a case. You may have solved this new crime, but what of the old one?
Dr. John Watson
The dead babies?
Sherlock Holmes
He was quite right, of course. I have nothing to link the three dead infants with the secret store of arsenic. No evidence whatsoever of foul play.
Dr. John Watson
What did you do?
Sherlock Holmes
Something you've seen me do many times. I just sat and smoked and thought and eventually I saw the truth. And then I knew exactly what course I should take.
Emily Gutteridge
Mr. Holmes, I fail to see how I can help you further. I've given you Jenny's home address. I suggest you contact her at her father's.
Sherlock Holmes
I doubt if I should find her there.
Dr. John Watson
What do you mean by that?
Sherlock Holmes
But I'm not here solely about Ms. Snell. I'm investigating the recent deaths of three babies in your care.
Emily Gutteridge
Mrs. Gutteridge, those children died of natural causes. God rest their souls. I have the doctor's certificates.
Sherlock Holmes
I'm well aware of that.
Emily Gutteridge
Then what is there to investigate?
Sherlock Holmes
A very great deal. For instance, I know that your medicine store contains a hidden supply of concentrated arsenic. What? And I know that the arsenic was used to kill those infants.
Emily Gutteridge
But there was no trace of poison.
Sherlock Holmes
You know that. Oh, yes. And finally, I know that Jenny Snell was unfortunate enough to stumble onto what was happening and was killed to keep her silent.
Emily Gutteridge
Jenny's dead.
Sherlock Holmes
Unfortunately for her killer, she came to me first.
Emily Gutteridge
She can't be dead.
Jenny Snell
It's a lie.
Emily Gutteridge
Toby, tell him.
Sherlock Holmes
I already have. She had to leave unexpected. Oh, yes. My mum died sudden. I have to go home.
Emily Gutteridge
There you are.
Sherlock Holmes
Actually, it's. It's quite well done. Except for one rather significant, significant detail.
Dr. John Watson
What are you on about?
Sherlock Holmes
Next time you forge a farewell letter, Gutteridge, I suggest you first make sure that your victim knows how to write.
Emily Gutteridge
Tobias, tell me this isn't true.
Sherlock Holmes
What did you do with the body, Gutteridge? There's new returned earth in the back garden. Shall we go and dig it up?
Jenny Snell
Oh, dear God.
Sherlock Holmes
I have you guttering. There's no sense in denying it. I'm not going to tonight.
Jenny Snell
Oh, dear God. Oh, dear Lord. How could you do it?
Sherlock Holmes
Why? Well, will you tell her or shall I? I had to shut her up. She knew I killed those babies.
Jenny Snell
Toby.
Sherlock Holmes
Don't say nothing.
Dr. John Watson
Emily.
Sherlock Holmes
You admit it. You killed Jennifer Snell. I said so. And your Three children. Yes.
Jenny Snell
Oh, Toby.
Sherlock Holmes
How? What you mean, how? Oh, it was brilliantly done. Not a trace of poison in their system. Tell me how you did it. Well, very well. Then tell me why. Perhaps it was for the insurance money. Yes.
Dr. John Watson
Yes, that's it.
Sherlock Holmes
The insurance. The insurance money goes to your wife. I checked. I ask you again, just how were the murders done? You don't know? Of course you don't know, because you were not the killer. I tell you, I was evidence. You knew there had been foul play, even though you didn't know the method. And since then you've done everything in your power to protect the real murderer, to protect your wife. Only she handles the children. Only she supervises their food and their medicines. And only she stands to benefit from their death.
Emily Gutteridge
No, I've had enough of this.
Sherlock Holmes
Please remain exactly where you are. Thank you. Since one of you can't explain and the other won't permit me, it's been done on adults before now, but never on children. So I congratulate you on a totally original crime. You start with the smallest of amounts, almost infinitesimal, I suppose, on an infant. Then you build up the dose, a fraction of a grain by a fraction of a grain, day by day, until you have a child hopelessly addicted to arsenic. Keep administering the drug and the child lives. Withhold it and the result is death. And not a trace of anything harmful to be detected. Clever and diabolical.
Emily Gutteridge
You've got no proof.
Sherlock Holmes
I have abundant proof. It's here in this house. You'll find no arsenic here. Of course I won't. You destroyed it all. Just as you destroyed that innocent young girl. For the same reason. Reason of averted desire to protect your wife.
Emily Gutteridge
Toby, my dear.
Sherlock Holmes
Don't say anything, Emily. You're right. He's got no proof. Tell him, Mrs. Gutteridge. What? Tell me what? Tell him the rest. Tell him that three wasn't going to be enough. What? Tell him that every single one of the babies in this house is already a drug addict, waiting to be casually snuffed out the next time you felt the whim or the need for power or. Or some ready cash. Carum.
Emily Gutteridge
You are so wrong.
Sherlock Holmes
I don't think so.
Emily Gutteridge
A whim, power, money. That's not why I do it, Emily. Do you know what my babies have to look forward to, Mr. Holmes? Do you know about the factories and the workhouses and the filth and the squalor? Have you seen the children begging and seeing? Have you seen them selling their bodies on the street for a penny a Time. I've seen them well before it comes to that. For a time, for a tiny, fleeting time, I can give them warmth and comfort and love.
Sherlock Holmes
And then.
Emily Gutteridge
Then I can make sure the world doesn't get them and soil them and wear them down and finally destroy them like animals.
Sherlock Holmes
And don't you tell me that what.
Emily Gutteridge
I do is wrong. It's the world that's wrong, sir. Forget about me. I don't matter. Do something about the world out there, if you can.
Dr. John Watson
What are you going to do with us?
Sherlock Holmes
Take you to the police.
Emily Gutteridge
And then it'll be the courts and then the hangman?
Sherlock Holmes
I imagine so.
Emily Gutteridge
Then tell me this, Mr. Holmes. What will happen to my babies? Now you tell me that.
Sherlock Holmes
I didn't know what to say.
Nathaniel Collington Smith
I have one question.
Sherlock Holmes
What is it?
Nathaniel Collington Smith
The evidence of the other children. Were you sure? Or was it just bluff on your part?
Sherlock Holmes
It wasn't a bluff. One of the side effects of progressive arsenic addiction is a natural lethargy and calm, especially in the young. I'd seen the signs when she showed me around the house on my first visit. I just didn't recognize them for what they were until later.
Nathaniel Collington Smith
So all the children are due for the same fate? Dear God.
Sherlock Holmes
The doctor thinks they can be slowly weaned off the stuff they might live, if you can call the world that's waiting for them a life.
Nathaniel Collington Smith
Come now, Mr. Holmes. Whatever our experiences may suggest, I like to think that the world is basically a good place. There's still tolerance and warmth and humanity out there. Don't you believe that?
Dr. John Watson
I'd very much like to meet that man.
Sherlock Holmes
I'm afraid that's not possible. He died last year. Oh, I'm. I'm sorry. Thank you.
Dr. John Watson
Why didn't the doctor recognize the symptoms in the other children?
Sherlock Holmes
I dare say I was a lot more familiar with the signs of poisoning than he was. Besides, he had no reason to look for them. He saw clean sheets and good care and was grateful for it.
Dr. John Watson
So that was your story about love?
Sherlock Holmes
It was. Gutteridge loved his wife. Murderer or no, he loved her so much that he was willing to take her guilt on himself and to kill to protect her. And she loved the children and so she murdered them. You still insist that love is a positive force for good?
Dr. John Watson
Yes, of course I do. You can't argue from a particular to the general like that. It's. It's thinking in straight lines.
Sherlock Holmes
Touche, Doctor. A palpable hit.
Dr. John Watson
Oh, what a sordid business. Poor Jenny Snell.
Sherlock Holmes
The wrong place at the wrong time. She must have walked in on Gutteridge at the very moment he discovered the arsenic.
Dr. John Watson
How can a young girl's life hang on such a slender thread?
Sherlock Holmes
Yes, how indeed? There was Smith. Right, do you think is the world basically a good place?
Dr. John Watson
I believe so. Don't you?
Sherlock Holmes
I wish I could, my friend. I wish I could. Yeah. I think the rain stopped. Yes, it has.
Narrator
In the Savior of Cripplegate Square, Sherlock Holmes was played by clive medicine and Dr. John Watson by Andrew Sachs. Collington Smith was played by Tom Baker, Emily Gutteridge by Siobhan Redmond, Tobias Gutridge by David Holt and Jenny Snell by Jasmine Hyde. The doctor was played by Andrew Wincott and the landlady by Helen Ayers. The violinists were Leonard Friedman and Bernard Doherty. The Savior of Cripplegate Square was written by Bert Coulls from a reference in the novel the Sign of the Four by Sir Arthur Conan Doyle. The director was Patrick Rayner.
Podcast: Choice Classic Radio Detectives | Old Time Radio
Episode Air Date: September 12, 2025
This episode of Choice Classic Radio Detectives delivers an original Sherlock Holmes drama, "Savior of Cripplegate Square," inspired by passing references in the Conan Doyle stories. The broadcast revives the Golden Age of Radio, featuring a dark, morally complex case from Holmes’ early days—long before his famous partnership with Dr. Watson.
The plot centers on Holmes’ investigation into mysterious infant deaths at a private orphanage in Victorian London, uncovering themes of love, deception, social injustice, and the limits of moral action.
| Timestamp | Speaker | Quote | |-----------|---------------|---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| | 01:06 | Collington Smith | “The truth is always there to be detected. At least that is my view. And I should like to think that you agree...” | | 13:04 | Jenny Snell | “Something wrong in that house. Something very wrong.” | | 15:12 | Dr. Watson | “Some of the doctors there are not above taking money to turn a blind eye.” | | 21:20 | Sherlock Holmes| “That was the very first time you ever used a disguise?...” | | 27:51 | Collington Smith | “Mr. Holmes, I cannot condone such blatant criminal activity. Unless, of course, it yielded the desired result.” | | 37:04 | Sherlock Holmes| “Next time you forge a farewell letter...first make sure that your victim knows how to write.” | | 39:55 | Sherlock Holmes| “You have a child hopelessly addicted to arsenic...and not a trace...to be detected. Clever and diabolical.” | | 41:04 | Emily Gutteridge| “For a time...I can give them warmth and comfort and love...then I can make sure the world doesn’t get them...” | | 42:47 | Collington Smith | “I like to think that the world is basically a good place...Don’t you believe that?” | | 44:45 | Sherlock Holmes| “I wish I could, my friend. I wish I could.” |
A superbly-crafted, emotionally rich story that probes the shadowy intersection of love, poverty, and moral action—reaffirming why Sherlock Holmes remains a classic for all ages.