How OZEMPIC Saved My Life w/ Annie Lederman | Chris Distefao is Chrissy Chaos

Summary

Podcast Summary: "How OZEMPIC Saved My Life w/ Annie Lederman"

Episode released on October 15, 2024, of "Chris Distefano Presents: Chrissy Chaos" featuring Annie Lederman.

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Introduction & Personal Updates

The episode kicks off with Chrissy Chaos (Chris Distefano) warmly welcoming listeners and introducing his guest, Annie Lederman. Annie shares her recent experience of hosting Thanksgiving for friends, aiming to recreate a Michigan-style gathering. She humorously mentions ordering instant gravy and canned cranberry sauce through Instacart and even presents her unique touch—a butter sculpture shaped like a turkey.

Annie Lederman [00:02]: "So you would be so proud of me. I'm hosting Thanksgiving for my friends, and I was stressed because I really wanted it to feel just like Michigan..."
[00:12]

Relationships & Personal Dynamics

The conversation flows into personal anecdotes about relationships and social interactions. Annie recounts a recent encounter with Tim Dillon, where Tim offered them a ride in his Rolls Royce. However, the ride was unexpectedly brief, prompting reflections on cancellations and flexibility in friendships.

Annie Lederman [03:46]: "He's a canceler. But you know what? I kind of respect it because so am I."
[03:46]

Both hosts emphasize the importance of understanding and not getting upset over last-minute changes, highlighting their mature approach to friendships and commitments.

Annie's Journey with Ozempic

A significant portion of the episode centers around Annie's experience with Ozempic, a medication primarily used for weight loss. She delves into how Ozempic transformed her life by aiding in weight reduction and improving her mental clarity. Annie describes taking a generic version, semi-glutide, for six months, resulting in a 30-pound weight loss without obsessive thoughts about food.

Annie Lederman [12:08]: "I had, I believe, applied hypnosis too. So when I... I looked at the camera and I went. I never get bad side effects..."
[12:39]

Annie explains that Ozempic helped manage her ADD symptoms, making it easier to stay active and clear-headed. Despite her fiancé's poor eating habits, she maintained her weight loss by focusing on muscle building and a high-protein diet even after discontinuing the medication.

Annie Lederman [13:57]: "And now I have something to keep. Like, I want to keep my shape and I want to get, like, ripped..."
[13:57]

Therapy, Mental Health, and Personal Struggles

The hosts transition into a heartfelt discussion about mental health and therapy. Both Chrissy and Annie share their personal struggles with anxiety and the challenges of maintaining mental well-being amid their demanding careers and family responsibilities. They explore various therapeutic approaches, including hypnotherapy and meditation, and discuss the difficulty of sustaining these practices consistently.

Chrissy Chaos [63:28]: "I feel like I can’t do this anymore. I’m not enjoying my life even."
[63:43]

Annie emphasizes the importance of self-compassion and the need to forgive oneself for imperfections, advocating for a balanced approach to mental health.

Parenting Challenges & Family Dynamics

A poignant segment of the podcast delves into the complexities of parenting. Chrissy opens up about his nine-year-old daughter's anxiety related to his comedy career and the family's recent move from Staten Island. He expresses guilt over disrupting his children's lives by relocating, aiming to provide for them better despite financial constraints.

Chrissy Chaos [51:20]: "I was like, oh, yeah, but we can all feel like you're going to blow it."
[51:32]

Annie concurs, discussing how their children perceive their parents' careers and the impact of their professional lives on the family unit. They highlight the challenges of balancing career aspirations with parental responsibilities, especially when facing financial instability.

Annie Lederman [44:07]: "She trusts me. We live together. A whole bunch of things."
[44:08]

Career in Comedy & Self-Perception

The dialogue shifts to their careers in comedy, where both Chrissy and Annie reflect on the pressures of success and the internal battles with self-worth. Chrissy discusses his feelings of inadequacy despite achieving significant career milestones, attributing these feelings to a lack of self-trust and an overemphasis on external validation.

Chrissy Chaos [62:02]: "It's about not being good enough, not trusting."
[62:50]

Annie shares similar sentiments, exploring how constant self-questioning and fear of not being funny enough can be mentally exhausting. They both acknowledge the struggle of maintaining confidence in a field as subjective as comedy.

Social & Cultural Observations

Annie and Chrissy weave in observations about social media dynamics, cultural assimilation, and interactions with different communities, including humorous takes on Amish and Asian cultures. They discuss stereotypes and personal experiences, blending humor with insightful commentary on cultural identities.

Annie Lederman [22:27]: "I have a huge scar on my elbow as a kid. I would be done in Amish."
[22:27]

Their banter highlights the challenges of navigating cultural expectations and the humorous side of blending different cultural backgrounds.

Mental Health Practices & Coping Mechanisms

The hosts delve deeper into mental health practices, discussing the efficacy of techniques like Transcendental Meditation (TM) and hypnotherapy. Annie shares her journey of overcoming addictive behaviors and the role of spiritual practices in maintaining mental health.

Annie Lederman [66:55]: "But you just have to keep course correcting because you have a habit of going to anxiety and going to that..."
[66:55]

Chrissy and Annie emphasize the importance of adapting and finding sustainable coping mechanisms to manage anxiety and maintain mental well-being.

Humor Amidst Struggles

Throughout the episode, Annie and Chrissy infuse humor into their discussions about serious topics, making the conversation engaging and relatable. They share lighthearted stories and jokes, showcasing their comedic chemistry and ability to find laughter even in challenging situations.

Annie Lederman [71:14]: "Are you full Korean? Yeah, I'm Korean. Shout out, Koreans."
[71:50]

Their playful exchanges provide a balance to the more profound discussions, illustrating the therapeutic power of humor.

Parenting Insights & Financial Anxieties

Chrissy elaborates on his efforts to teach his children about financial responsibility, discussing his daughter's anxiety over his ability to provide and the impact of their moved living situation. He shares strategies like matching his daughter's savings to encourage responsible money habits.

Chrissy Chaos [47:04]: "It's all to hide it. That's where I put all my OnlyFans accounts. I have it on my daughter's credit."
[48:25]

This segment underscores the complexities of modern parenting, especially when balancing financial pressures with children's emotional well-being.

Closing Thoughts & Upcoming Projects

As the episode draws to a close, Chrissy and Annie express mutual support and excitement for their upcoming shows. They discuss future projects, invite listeners to attend their performances, and share updates about their personal lives, reinforcing the strong bond and camaraderie between them.

Annie Lederman [82:24]: "I'm in Naples on the 10th and then Tampa the 11th and 12th. I'm bringing Josh Potter with me. That'll be fun."
[82:24]

Chrissy Chaos [83:07]: "Annieletterman.com. Go see the dates."
[83:07]

Notable Quotes with Timestamps

• Annie Lederman [12:08]: "I never get bad side effects. Nothing ever affects me. I only have the best experiences with every medicine I ever use."
• Chrissy Chaos [63:28]: "I feel like I can’t do this anymore. I’m not enjoying my life even."
• Chrissy Chaos [62:02]: "It's about not being good enough, not trusting."
• Annie Lederman [71:14]: "Are you full Korean? Yeah, I'm Korean. Shout out, Koreans."

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Conclusion

In this heartfelt and humor-filled episode of "Chrissy Chaos," Chrissy Distefano and Annie Lederman candidly discuss personal transformations, the challenges of mental health, and the intricacies of balancing career ambitions with family life. Through their engaging dialogue, they offer listeners a blend of laughter, vulnerability, and insightful reflections on navigating life's ups and downs. The episode serves as a testament to their resilience and the power of honest conversations in fostering connection and understanding.

Transcript

[Chrissy Chaos]

You have one new voicemail. Hi.

[Annie Letterman]

So you would be so proud of me. I'm hosting Thanksgiving for my friends, and I was stressed because I really wanted it to feel just like Michigan. But then I found the same stuffing mix that you use on Instacart, and.

[Chrissy Chaos]

I ordered instant gravy, canned cranberry. What else?

[Annie Letterman]

Oh, I got everyone a little butter sculpture shaped like a turkey. All right, I should probably get cooking.

[Chrissy Chaos]

But I miss you today. Happy Thanksgiving, Mom.

[Annie Letterman]

Oh, and you should download Instacart. It's way easier than sending dad to the store. Download Instacart and enjoy free delivery on your first three orders. Service fees and terms apply.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Hi, I'm Slushy. Welcome to another episode of Chrissy Chaos. Today we're coming to you live from Los Angeles. Well, it's not live. You'll see it in a week, but it is live right now, in this moment.

[Annie Letterman]

It's so real right now.

[Chrissy Chaos]

It's so real.

[Annie Letterman]

We're so close. They sat us, like, completely. I. This is like the podcast where someone comes on that, like, talks about neuroscience, right? And the person just sits there and ask them, like, but how do we. You know what I mean?

[Chrissy Chaos]

I feel like we're docking.

[Annie Letterman]

Yes. Oh, yeah. I feel like my penis. My penis head is inside your penis head. Or am I the top? Or are you the inside?

[Chrissy Chaos]

I think I'm the alpha.

[Annie Letterman]

The inside or the outside?

[Chrissy Chaos]

The outside.

[Annie Letterman]

The outside is the alpha of the docking. You don't think the one whose penis head's totally in is.

[Chrissy Chaos]

It depends who's circumcised?

[Annie Letterman]

Because the top is. Can two uncircumcised dock?

[Chrissy Chaos]

Yes.

[Annie Letterman]

Okay.

[Chrissy Chaos]

They can.

[Annie Letterman]

Well, is Jewish. Is like being Jewish. Like, you can't dock.

[Chrissy Chaos]

No. Being Jewish. No. Oh, that's right.

[Annie Letterman]

Can you be buried in a Jewish cemetery if you've docked?

[Chrissy Chaos]

Yes.

[Annie Letterman]

Okay.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Yes, you can.

[Annie Letterman]

You just can't get a tattoo of people docking.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Exactly. Okay.

[Annie Letterman]

Okay.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Annie Letterman, folks. And this is John and Richie, right? This is. Yes, this is John and Richie.

[Annie Letterman]

Hi, guys.

[Chrissy Chaos]

What is this called? Dos Equis Studios 7.

[Annie Letterman]

I know. I caught a Dos Equis. I worked with them for so long. I caught a dose Equis for so long. It's so weird to be back. It's fun.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Look at this.

[Annie Letterman]

I like the two plants. I will say I want to give shout out to production. The. There were signs on the parking spots. Yes, said Chrissy D. Production.

[Chrissy Chaos]

I know. I texted it to you. I said, park here. Thank you. I didn't know anything about It.

[Annie Letterman]

You didn't know they were going to do that.

[Chrissy Chaos]

I did not know that they were going to have printouts that was really.

[Annie Letterman]

To type up and print out. And there's like a little lacquer over it.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Yes.

[Annie Letterman]

They shellacked it.

[Chrissy Chaos]

They did shellac.

[Annie Letterman]

It's like, amazing.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Yesterday, Annie and I saw each other at the Comedy Store. We were there. I'm sorry. No. We saw each other at the Hollywood Improv for Tim Dillon's Netflix show Watch Party thing. And then Tim gave us a ride in his Rolls Royce.

[Annie Letterman]

And when you have a Rolls Royce, you just take people for like a 12 minute ride.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Yeah. I thought he was driving me to my destination.

[Annie Letterman]

I thought we were going somewhere. I got all my stuff. I was like, hold on, let me go. I had like a jacket. I had all my things.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Yeah. I paid a $10 cancel. A $10 cancel fee on my Uber because I go, Tim's going to drive me. And then he just drove us around six blocks and dropped us right back off in front of the improv car.

[Annie Letterman]

Though I did remember he was supposed to do a Q and A. So I was like, wait, are we just. Which is a Tim Dillon move. Which is like, I learned so much from Tim on Power Moves.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Right.

[Annie Letterman]

To just. And it doesn't. He's not trying to do power moves. It's a very natural thing to him.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Yeah.

[Annie Letterman]

To. To have a party for yourself where you say stick around for a Q and A, and then there's just Q. There's no A. Yeah.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Yeah.

[Annie Letterman]

There's no A around.

[Chrissy Chaos]

No. He literally yesterday did this premier party, and he was honestly. And I do believe him on this, he was wanted to not even go to the premiere party and send a picture of himself on a plane back to New York and post that. Because he was like, I don't even want to go. He was supposed to be my first guest, but he canceled.

[Annie Letterman]

He's a canceler.

[Chrissy Chaos]

He is. But you know what? I kind of respect it because so am I.

[Annie Letterman]

No, I love it.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Here's the thing about me, and I think you're similar this way. So I think we've always gotten along. I'm the kind of person. If you even can't. If I was sitting in this chair and you were supposed to be my guests and you were like, I'm not going to make it. I would just then turn to the camera and do the podcast by myself and not get mad at you at all.

[Annie Letterman]

I would never be mad. I don't care if people are late I actually appreciate when people are late. It's more time for me to do.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Stuff or, like, dinner out.

[Annie Letterman]

You always keep the out. Like, you never fuck someone's out. If I'm late, we have the same out. It's just.

[Chrissy Chaos]

I can't. I. It really bothers me when people, like, get mad if, like, you cancel or you're. I would never. I'm like, I just want people to be happy.

[Annie Letterman]

Learn to pivot.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Yeah. I don't. I'm not your mom.

[Annie Letterman]

I don't even want to be mad at them. Like, it's like, just different personalities. Because if you are, like, it's not an unreasonable thing to be mad about. But I just feel like as my life flows on, I try to be more like, let's just go with what's going on.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Yes.

[Annie Letterman]

And I try my best to, like, not let people down with plans, but sometimes it just happens.

[Chrissy Chaos]

It happens.

[Annie Letterman]

Like, there was, when I was driving here on the highway, a fucking caution cone flung out of the back of someone's car and was right in front of the car. Like, I was like, this could be my death.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Right.

[Annie Letterman]

And would you have been sitting here mad at me for not being here?

[Chrissy Chaos]

No, I would have been.

[Annie Letterman]

The production would be like, there she is. She's late again.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Yeah. I would have literally went to the road and got whatever pieces of you I could scrape off and put it in the chair and be like, this is Hani Letterman, the skinniest she's ever been.

[Annie Letterman]

She's supposed to be Tim Dillon, but.

[Chrissy Chaos]

But.

[Annie Letterman]

But we got a piece of her.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Yes. Instead, we have her three severed fingers. You look pretty.

[Annie Letterman]

Thank you. You look very handsome.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Thank you.

[Annie Letterman]

I hugged Chris last night, and his pecs were so hard.

[Chrissy Chaos]

That's it. Yes.

[Annie Letterman]

I. I don't think I've ever hugged hard. Like, my fiance is very handsome. He eats McDonald's. He eats like shit. He just turned 30, so he's not.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Like, no, I just turned 40.

[Annie Letterman]

I'm 41.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Whoa.

[Annie Letterman]

Yeah.

[Chrissy Chaos]

You got a young boy.

[Annie Letterman]

I got a young. And he's Asian. So that's it.

[Chrissy Chaos]

My boy right here.

[Annie Letterman]

I'm, like, actually scared to call people Asian now, because I. Last night on stage, 100% sure this girl was Asian and she was fully Mexican. And people do this to my fiance all the time. But this girl, I was like, she's fully Asian. Both parents are Asian. She had soup for breakfast.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Yeah.

[Annie Letterman]

She knows how to ration her rice. Like, I love this girl. She still looks cute, but I know she eats the food yes. And she was fully Mexican. I was like, you have to do your makeup different. You can't have it go up. It has to go down.

[Chrissy Chaos]

What kind of Asian is your fiance?

[Annie Letterman]

He's half Laos. He's lean.

[Chrissy Chaos]

I don't even know what that is.

[Annie Letterman]

Okay. Laos is the most. This is fun. I know some stuff.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Yes.

[Annie Letterman]

His mom tells me this stuff when she's drunk.

[Chrissy Chaos]

He's a lousy boy.

[Annie Letterman]

He's a lousy boy. He. So they're. Laos is the most bomb per capita country that has ever existed.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Sick.

[Annie Letterman]

Because in the Vietnam War, when America was bringing their bombs back, they couldn't bring the bombs back. So they just were like, we'll just drop them on these Asian people. We'll just drop them.

[Chrissy Chaos]

So they have, like, innocent people just.

[Annie Letterman]

Yeah, like, fuck these people.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Yeah.

[Annie Letterman]

So they just like. And Obama was the first president to even acknowledge it, but they're just living in minefields. Like, all the kids have, like, one arm, right? Like, speaking of three fingers. But that's how much you can get in them.

[Chrissy Chaos]

But you got a hot one.

[Annie Letterman]

I got a hot one. But. So his mom gave me this, like. So they have these, like, people that go out and they have to, like, explode the bombs. They find them so the kids don't find them, and then they. They go off site, and then they. They, like, ignite them. And his mom gave me. There's a service that does that, and the organization sells these, like, bracelets that are made of bomb. Like, some of the bombs. So she gave me this bomb bracelet, and I go through TSA and I keep beeping, I keep beeping, I keep beeping. And I'm like. I'm so cocky. I've learned a thing. Like, you know, history. I know nothing. So that's, like, the only part of history that I know is what she told me in this thing she showed me. So I am 10 seconds away from going. Like, when I realized it's my bracelet of going, this is a bomb. Like, I was like, 10 seconds. And Todd was like, shut the fuck up. And I was like, oh, I would have been on a goddamn list. Because they would have cavity searched me. Even though it was just, like, 100%.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Yeah, just find vibrators in your ass.

[Annie Letterman]

I'd be like, oh, that's where I kept the other.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Whoops. Wait, you have a louse boyfriend. What? Lan put the laan in the basket. Do you ever do that to him?

[Annie Letterman]

Well, it's Le Ocean.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Oh, sorry.

[Annie Letterman]

But I like that. Put the leotian in the Basket, too.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Put the leotian in the basket.

[Annie Letterman]

Maybe I'll be using that. You'll see it on my special.

[Chrissy Chaos]

There it is. But his name's Todd. What's his leotian name?

[Annie Letterman]

It's Todd Fang Walker. Nice little name. Fang Some. I don't know.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Do you ever call him Fang Some?

[Annie Letterman]

That's fun.

[Chrissy Chaos]

No, you should call him. Thanks. Do you ever be, like, when I'm, like, whipping him? Yeah.

[Annie Letterman]

No, I like, he kind of crawls on the floor towards me. Like, in.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Right. Does he feel like when he's having sex, he's like, he's back. Like. Like, it's enemy to him?

[Annie Letterman]

No, but he does explode.

[Chrissy Chaos]

It's like, yeah, Agent Orange.

[Annie Letterman]

But I was thinking our wedding. We should have our.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Which, by the way, can I ask, am I gonna get invited to your wedding?

[Annie Letterman]

Would you come, though?

[Chrissy Chaos]

I actually would.

[Annie Letterman]

I feel, like, nervous about dates and stuff. It's like, you don't want to have, like, no fun people because people are doing shows. I wouldn't expect people to cancel weekends.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Are you doing it in California?

[Annie Letterman]

I don't know what we're doing.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Do it in Philly. Go back home.

[Annie Letterman]

Philly.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Come back to Philly.

[Annie Letterman]

Sometimes when I go to Philly, I. I, like, will be sitting at dinner and start crying.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Yeah, but you are northeast.

[Annie Letterman]

I don't love, like, Philly. Like, I feel more. I feel more sentimental towards Santa Fe, New Mexico, where I lived for seven years.

[Chrissy Chaos]

You lived in Santa Fe, New Mexico?

[Annie Letterman]

Yeah, I lived there for seven years.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Why?

[Annie Letterman]

I went to school there, and then I just stayed there. And I have, like, a lot of, like, weird love towards it, and I think that's where I realized my dreams.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Interesting.

[Annie Letterman]

So I. When I go back, I'm like, remember when I.

[Chrissy Chaos]

You know what we. What. How do you realize you dream? Were you doing ayahuasca?

[Annie Letterman]

You don't know?

[Chrissy Chaos]

No, I don't know.

[Annie Letterman]

Santa Fe was one of the first places that did that, that the tax cut, where you could film movies there for really cheap. So we got all these movies in town. So I was like, this, like, drunk, go, go, dancer girl. And I would just meet all of these, like, movie stars. And it was just. I kind of was like, oh, and I met the Longest Yard. Came there. They were redoing the Longest Yard. The Adam Sandler remade.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Oh, yeah.

[Annie Letterman]

And so I met, like, him, Nick Swartzen, like, all these comedians. And then I was like, oh, and Adam Sandler, chef, I became friends with. There it is. Buddies. Every bathroom is unisex. When you're doing drugs, but true.

[Chrissy Chaos]

I still haven't done coke yet, but I want.

[Annie Letterman]

I'm getting close. You have a good nose for coke.

[Chrissy Chaos]

I'm getting closer to starting to like, want to experiment with like a real hard drug.

[Annie Letterman]

Well, when you're in your 40s, it's. That's when it becomes hard. It's kind of cute when you're younger.

[Chrissy Chaos]

So you mean like me doing coke now for the first time would. Would not be good? You think it would hit me harder?

[Annie Letterman]

It depends on what you think is good.

[Chrissy Chaos]

I just want to feel what I just want. I'm getting to. I turned 40 last month and I'm like, I haven't lived a life. I feel like I haven't experienced a lot. Like, you've lived a good life. You're in New Mexico, did a bunch of drugs. Like you feel very gratified. You feel very satisfied. You've done. Sometimes I feel like I've done things in my career, but I'm like, I really was like sheltered a lot. I didn't do anything. I never really did drugs. I didn't party hard.

[Annie Letterman]

Can I just say, I met this man at the Laugh Lounge. He was wearing, he was wearing a jersey that went to like his ankles. I imagine like the biggest jersey that's ever existed.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Yes. I was literally dressed like when Annie.

[Annie Letterman]

I was a wigger and I.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Yes.

[Annie Letterman]

I am drawn to like it's my people. So.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Yeah, I was dressed like a, like a black. I was 26 years old. I'm a white 26 year old man. I was dressed like a black male teenager from the mid-90s.

[Annie Letterman]

And then there was like a mini you that was just like Pete Davidson was just like the 13 year old version that came in and then.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Yeah.

[Annie Letterman]

And then just exploded a lot of 9, 11.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Oh my God. We were, he was.

[Annie Letterman]

His, his first jokes were about. We were like, okay, okay. He was like, I'm going to go into like the deepest parts of my life.

[Chrissy Chaos]

But that was. Those were the good old days. You and I met. I think it was. Must have been 2009. So. I didn't even know that you had a whole life in New Mexico before I even met you.

[Annie Letterman]

I just came back. Yeah, I just come. I remember I felt like hot shit in New Mexico. I felt like really cool.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Yeah.

[Annie Letterman]

Popular. And then I moved to New York. I was like, one, I'm the fattest person I've ever seen. Two, I'm in cowboy boots. Like, I literally like, I had worked at a restaurant in Santa Fe. That was called the cowgirl. And you had a dress.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Yeah.

[Annie Letterman]

In cowgirl outfits. Which is like, it's not a human enough to be a server.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Right.

[Annie Letterman]

To wear a costume. But I basically was like still wearing like turquoise and stuff. I was dressed like I had retired.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Right. But you had fun. You had like real. I remember you coming to New York and like, you had like really fun. You were form. You had former fat girl energy.

[Annie Letterman]

Yeah.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Back then. I remember you had a boyfriend.

[Annie Letterman]

Full fat. Until maybe more recently.

[Chrissy Chaos]

You're not. You look good though.

[Annie Letterman]

No. Now I. Well, I went on Ozempic for six months.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Did you?

[Annie Letterman]

And then I got off of it and I've never been healthier since I got off.

[Chrissy Chaos]

I was gonna say tell me about. Because everybody, Ozempic. I was talking to a doctor the other day and he was like, what Ozempic is doing is, you're going to hear it's got side effects and this and that. But he said what it actually is doing is, you know, like 200 years ago, like people would die of scurvy, you would die of a fever, and then antibiotics came out and he was like, ozempic is going to cure obesity. Obesity is a thing that we're living with now that 100 years from now that people won't live with it anymore. Do you feel like, what is it? You just. You're not hungry?

[Annie Letterman]

No. I had, I did the semi glutide, so it was just like the generic version. But it was like, it was such a good experience. I, I believe in hypnosis too. So when I. Before I even have video of me, before I put it into my chubby little stomach, I went, I looked at the camera and I went. I never get bad side effects. Nothing ever affects me. I only have the best experiences with every medicine I ever use. And then I injected myself and I basically had that where I. It started to help my add, I felt cognitively like more clear. It was easier for me to do things. Like I didn't have this voice in my head that was like basically telling me to do the bad thing or stay in bed or like I just was really like able to be up and at em. Not that I worked out because working out, you're kind of like, you kind of get frail. You're like, I'm so skinny. Like, I can't pick that up. But I didn't, it didn't make me eat better or anything. I just wasn't obsessing about food, thinking about food. I just would eat what was in front of me. And because my fiance eats like shit. I kind of was eating badly, but I lost 30 pounds.

[Chrissy Chaos]

But wouldn't you eat. Would you say you ate less? Maybe, like.

[Annie Letterman]

Yeah, I wasn't. I wasn't eating, like, until, like, I could feel my stomach expand. And then like, 10 minutes past that. I was definitely using food before that as a. Like, a coping mechanism.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Yeah.

[Annie Letterman]

To feel better. And I don't. I just don't have that.

[Chrissy Chaos]

You don't. And that stayed with you even though you don't take the medicine anymore?

[Annie Letterman]

It stayed with me. And now it's. I'm way better afterwards because once I got off of it, I was like, oh, I'm not. Now I have something to keep. Like, I want to keep my. My shape and I want to get, like, ripped because I lost. You lose muscle mass and I want. I'm building my muscle up. I'm only having protein.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Right. What? Wait, wait. But. So why did you stop taking it then?

[Annie Letterman]

Oh, this is. I.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Please. Is it gross? I want to hear it.

[Annie Letterman]

It's not gross. I had no bad side effects. I was like. Everything was perfect.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Like. Like S shaped, beautiful turds.

[Annie Letterman]

Everything was.

[Chrissy Chaos]

That's the healthiest turds, by the way. Just so you guys know. And at home, look, you have to look in the toilet.

[Annie Letterman]

Yeah. It wasn't us, but it was one of those Superman S's you draw on your thing.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Right.

[Annie Letterman]

Trapper Keeper. So it was a little weird.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Yeah.

[Annie Letterman]

I'd have to lift up to get each angle I aimed it. But no, because. Okay, so Dr. Drew's wife, shout out Dr. Drew. Love Dr. Drew. Dr. Drew made a big mistake giving me his phone number.

[Chrissy Chaos]

He circumcised Dr. Drew.

[Annie Letterman]

Is he.

[Chrissy Chaos]

He's a Jew.

[Annie Letterman]

Have you seen it?

[Chrissy Chaos]

I'm just assuming he's Jewish and he's circumcised.

[Annie Letterman]

I don't think he's Jewish.

[Chrissy Chaos]

It's Dr. Drew. His name's Dr. Drew.

[Annie Letterman]

Dr. J. His name is not Dr. J. Oh, I thought it was Dr. Pinsky can be polished.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Oh, okay.

[Annie Letterman]

But I don't know.

[Chrissy Chaos]

But I thought it was Dr. Drew Pinsky.

[Annie Letterman]

You thought his name was Dr. Drew the whole time? It's so funny. Wait, we haven't just been calling this guy doctor. We've just been hate crime. He would take it. I. Isn't he so handsome? I love them. Him and his wife are a little like mommy and daddy.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Oh, you think that they're swingers or something? Potentially.

[Annie Letterman]

I think they would have tried to.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Bang me right Yeah, I just found out there's like an underground sex club in the tennis club near my house. That's interesting.

[Annie Letterman]

Interested?

[Chrissy Chaos]

Um, no, actually, sex clubs kind of are.

[Annie Letterman]

It's a little too much.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Yeah, I don't, I'm not. I get shy with that stuff. I don't know, like in theory I'm like, oh, I want to bang everyone and jerk off everywhere and look at my big balls. But in actual practice I'd be like, I can't.

[Annie Letterman]

Are you ball heavy?

[Chrissy Chaos]

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[Annie Letterman]

You, baby, you know? Okay, so this is one of the only things I remember from. I had this one teacher in high school who I really liked. She was called Tammy. She, like, smoked cigarettes with us. And she. She was the only one that didn't us, but she probably would have. She did smoke with us. All my teachers in high school were so horrific.

[Chrissy Chaos]

But it was great.

[Annie Letterman]

She.

[Chrissy Chaos]

But it made you who you are.

[Annie Letterman]

But I remember what she said. I know I was molested right into this job. But she. I was take your teacher to court, girl. But so Tammy was. She said to me, we were looking at, like, our old statues and stuff. Old, like statue of David or whatever. And she was like, you know, back in the day, the emphasis used to be on the balls. Like, you wanted to have a small penis and big balls. That's why I'm like all of a thing. And I'm like, that's so funny. Like, how many guys would be like, not subscribed to only fans and.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Right. Because you're saying. Well, because sexuality, it all, like. I think. What culture was it? There was a culture that they. Oh, the Amish, they're attracted to women's elbows. They're not. The Amish are Amish. They don't care about you.

[Annie Letterman]

Are you sure it's Amish.

[Chrissy Chaos]

They don't care about Dr. Jupinski. They don't care about boobs or butts or anything like that. They look at elbows. That's a big thing for them. That's what turns them off.

[Annie Letterman]

I got a huge scar on my elbow as a kid. I would be done in Amish.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Oh, my God, dude, the Amish community would be so soft.

[Annie Letterman]

I'd be a virgin. I'd be a virgin. I'd be like, do you like, when I churn this butter, I'd have, like, oops. Something. I'd always. To have something covering my elbow.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Just gross.

[Annie Letterman]

They're like, oh, it's disgusting. Pig. But Dr. Dr. His wife, tell me, is really into psychics, which, by the way, I'm so creeped out by psychics.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Me too.

[Annie Letterman]

When I see a psychic, I need, like, three weeks of, like, decompressing. And I have to do, like, Andrew Huberman routines where I'm like, I wait, like, 90 minutes before I drink coffee, and I just blink at the sun all morning.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Win Hoff, you're in an ice bucket.

[Annie Letterman]

I'm in an ice bucket. I'm like, I have to do every. To reset everything. So she. She's like, had a friend who died. So she texted me, and she always screen grabs, like, articles about how Ozempic's going to kill us all, but it's always from Breitbart or something. Like, you can always see, like, the ads above it are always, like, Fox News stuff where you're like. Like, yeah, I don't know if this is the correct place to be getting this. You know? And so she would send me these things, and then she's like, you know, I had this friend that passed away, and he keeps coming to me as a ghost and telling me that you need to get off Ozempic. And she honestly, like, bullied me into getting off. Like, I was. I. I think it's very sweet when people care about you and send you articles and stuff, right? But it. It got to the point where it was so annoying that I just got off Ozempic because you.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Because Dr. Drew Pinsky's wife said that a ghost told her.

[Annie Letterman]

She kept saying that her friend was haunting her, right? Telling her.

[Chrissy Chaos]

And it was like, specifically Annie. She's like, I died to. I came back to life to tell Annie to get off. Yes.

[Annie Letterman]

And I'm like. And she's like, I just worry about you. And I'm like, you know, okay, yeah, I'll just get off it.

[Chrissy Chaos]

I.

[Annie Letterman]

And you get, like. I talk about it openly, so then, like, fans are sending me all these. It's like, you just get annoyed with people talking to you about it.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Yes, because I think so. I also think, too now, people are ashamed to be. To say that they're on it.

[Annie Letterman]

Well, that's why I told everyone I was on it from the beginning, because I was like, oh, I like to, you know, show my dents, but opposite of some comics.

[Chrissy Chaos]

But scarred elbows.

[Annie Letterman]

I like to show my scarred elbows. I don't care if you Amish people don't want to churn my butter.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Yeah, I'm sorry. All the Amish guys watching my pod, just stop jerking off.

[Annie Letterman]

Do you think that's what they do? And they, like, they go in, they churn it 100%.

[Chrissy Chaos]

I think all the. They all have got to have full bushes, too.

[Annie Letterman]

Yeah. I mean, yeah. Can you imagine? They're wax. There's no one in the Amish pussy.

[Chrissy Chaos]

I'm, like, eating out an Amish woman. I have corn. It's corn in her pussy.

[Annie Letterman]

Do they have, like, a middle part, like Robby Hoffman?

[Chrissy Chaos]

100%.

[Annie Letterman]

Robbie's like, Amish hair.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Yeah. Just comes out. I went to. I used to go to the Amish country when I was a kid. My mom would take us there, and my uncle once took a picture of an Amish person, like, just, like, on the side of the road. And they, like, sprinted over to him. And we're like, you need to give us the camera. Because they Amish believed that the camera steals their. Your soul. So they dumped out.

[Annie Letterman]

Was that right before that Amish shooting happened?

[Chrissy Chaos]

Probably, yes. Seriously? I don't know.

[Annie Letterman]

But they fucking killed.

[Chrissy Chaos]

They took out all the film from his camera and put it in their pocket and gave him back his camera. And then they gave him, like, a blueberry pie for, like, you know. We're sorry. A homemade Amish blueberry pie.

[Annie Letterman]

I've eaten a lot of Amish food.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Me, too. Well, you're from Philly.

[Annie Letterman]

Yeah, I'm from Philly. So we would do that. We did a lot of Amish, but I was brought up Quaker, so everyone always thought I was Amish.

[Chrissy Chaos]

You were. You were a Quaker. You said, whoa, peace. It's all about peace. You are a peaceful person.

[Annie Letterman]

I actually. I'm secretly peaceful.

[Chrissy Chaos]

You can be. You come off. Like, people, like, would be like, oh, you could have, like, bitch energy. But you don't.

[Annie Letterman]

Actually, I think I just slightly Asperger's face. And sometimes I don't suffer fools. I mean, that's true. Sometimes I'm like, you're not.

[Chrissy Chaos]

You've never.

[Annie Letterman]

I like to. I like to, like, grow stuff with people. So sometimes people, when they come on and they immediately want stuff from you, I need them to, like, make me laugh a bunch before they start getting that stuff.

[Chrissy Chaos]

And anytime I hear, like, someone, like, I know as well as you, anytime, I'm like, well, Annie's never been like that with me. And I'm just like. Sometimes after a while, what I'm starting to realize is a lot of times people who say something, this person's annoying or that person's a bitch or whatever, it's always them. It's never the person. Like, when someone's like, oh, I met so and so, the celebrity, and they were such a dick, I'm like, no, you suck. Yeah.

[Annie Letterman]

But also, like, what were you bringing to them?

[Chrissy Chaos]

Yes.

[Annie Letterman]

Like, what were you offering them in that conversation, other than taking them from whatever they were doing? Yeah, I was. I just. I read a book, so I, like, have to talk about it nonstop, but.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Please.

[Annie Letterman]

It's been 20 years, and I read a book, but I read the Alchemist.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Have you read it with Malcolm Gladwell?

[Annie Letterman]

No. Sorry, but it sounds like a Malcolm Gladwell book. Yeah, no, it's a guy with a Paolo. Ba, ba, ba.

[Chrissy Chaos]

That's the Brazilian.

[Annie Letterman]

But there's.

[Chrissy Chaos]

What's the premise of it, though? I've heard of it.

[Annie Letterman]

It's about, like, a young sheep herder who is, like, learning to follow his, like, his destiny, basically.

[Chrissy Chaos]

That looks like you in New Mexico.

[Annie Letterman]

That's me in Santa Fe looking for my Laotian. He wasn't born yet, though. But there's a quote in the beginning about Narcissius, and it's all about how Narcissus was looking into the water to see his own reflection. He fell in and he died. And then the. The water was crying. And they asked the water, like, are you crying because you missed how beautiful the boy was? And they're like, we didn't even notice the boy was beautiful. We were looking into his eyes and his reflection and seeing how beautiful we were.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Right.

[Annie Letterman]

And that's why there's, like, salt in the ocean.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Interesting, apparently.

[Annie Letterman]

But it's like, you're always looking at other people to See, like, what you're.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Yeah.

[Annie Letterman]

How you look like. There's like. I used to have a boyfriend in college who I idolized. I was like, he was so amazing. It was just because he, like, would tell me I was a good artist and stuff, right?

[Chrissy Chaos]

It was Scott Peterson. It was Scott Peterson.

[Annie Letterman]

Oh, my God. We. We did pick out our baby names, and we did pick Connor. It was unfortunate. I watched the lazy Peterson thing again. It's like, why did you do it again? Yeah, why are we digging this poor bitch up?

[Chrissy Chaos]

I know.

[Annie Letterman]

Scott Peterson is like, it's still hot, by the way.

[Chrissy Chaos]

I know. It's one. Well, it's so funny because when I was watching the documentary, I swear to God in my head, I was like, I feel like this is the kind of guy Annie would date.

[Annie Letterman]

I used to do a joke about this because I was at a wedding once in New Mexico, and there was a guy that looked like Scott Peterson. I thought it'd be flattered when I told him. I was like, you look so much like Scott Peterson. And he got pissed, and I was like, you're looking more like getting Scotter.

[Chrissy Chaos]

They. So I watched the. I think it was the Netflix one. I watched the Netflix one about the, you know, murder of Lacy Peterson, and I'm like, he 100% did it. Like, there's no op. There's no way.

[Annie Letterman]

There was no way he didn't do it.

[Chrissy Chaos]

And then I watched the one on. I think it was Peacock. Or Hulu. I think it was Peacock. I watched that one, and then I'm like, now I kind of think he didn't do it.

[Annie Letterman]

That's the one with. And it always defends the men. Peacock, Always.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Oh, that's right. Yes, true.

[Annie Letterman]

No, he definitely did it because Amber Fry, he wouldn't have had the girlfriend where he said he didn't. Amber Fry, by the way, of Fresno. Whenever I hear Fresno since Lacy Peterson's body was found, right? I. Every time I hear Fresno, I'm like, amber Fry, my girl. Since I was like, a child, basically.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Yeah.

[Annie Letterman]

But Amber Fry, the girlfriend, is such a badass. She was so cool. She looked and she's kind of like.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Yeah, she came with that energy. She came with that energy where I was like, my heart started beating like I was in trouble. I was like, that is the wrong bitch to fuck with. No.

[Annie Letterman]

And she was immediate. It wasn't like. She wasn't like, well, maybe he didn't do it or whatever. Like, I mean, I've had guys be horrific, and it's taken me 10 years to be like, maybe they weren't the right guy for you know what I mean?

[Chrissy Chaos]

Right.

[Annie Letterman]

She was just like the minute that something possibly could have happened, she was like, he's disgusting. We're gonna get him.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Annie Letterman]

And she was so good. And the, the cops did, they had her wear a wire, but they didn't even like guide her and what to do. And she just nailed.

[Chrissy Chaos]

She just knew. I know. And then I like her interviews like in present day. She says like big fake boobs now. She kind of, she's kind of like smoking hot. I was like, should I DM her?

[Annie Letterman]

Yeah. Yes.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Should I just get involved?

[Annie Letterman]

I'd love to have you on the.

[Chrissy Chaos]

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[Annie Letterman]

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[Chrissy Chaos]

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[Annie Letterman]

Like, he said he had a wife that passed away three weeks before he had a wife that passed away.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Yeah, yeah. Can't do that. And then the other part, and then.

[Annie Letterman]

Bought a boat and didn't tell anyone. Like, he's such like a weird braggy guy. He wouldn't have like been like, everybody, I got a boat.

[Chrissy Chaos]

And then he goes, and then, and then they're driving, they picked him up in San Diego, the police, and they're driving back the three hours to when.

[Annie Letterman]

He looked like Sugar Ray, like dyed his hair blonde.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Yeah, he's like, he dyed his hair blonde.

[Annie Letterman]

He had like, I just want to fly.

[Chrissy Chaos]

He had a sister, his sister in law lived in San Diego. He dyed his hair blonde, had like $25,000 in cash and look like a different person. He's like, I'm just hanging out with my family.

[Annie Letterman]

We're just golfing.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Yeah. They're like, you're 10 minutes from Mexico.

[Annie Letterman]

He's like, how hideous is his family? He was like the only hot one I know. And you could tell that he was the golden boy to all of them. They're like, he's our hot.

[Chrissy Chaos]

They loved him. But, but they were go there, the police, you know, had finally found, you know, Lacy Peterson's body, whatever. And they, they tell Scott, they like have him handcuffed in the back of the car and they're driving and they go, they go, you know, we just found, you know, the body. It's been confirmed that it is Lacy and your unborn son.

[Annie Letterman]

He's like, we're going to White Castle.

[Chrissy Chaos]

I know, that's what he said. He like, put head down. It's like a minute. And then he goes, are we going to go to In N Out Burger? Like. And the police were like, excuse me. He was like, you. He was like, you said that we were going to get food, and I'm just like, I'm pretty hungry. And they were like, okay. And then so the police, when they were interviewed, they were like, what guy. What guy would say that?

[Annie Letterman]

Unless you're in, like, full shock.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Right. But, yeah, I mean, I don't know. Do you think he'll ever get out? No. Right?

[Annie Letterman]

No, I think he's not getting the death penalty.

[Chrissy Chaos]

No. But he supposedly gets a ton of ass in jail. He gets, like, conjugal visits, and these women, like, write him letters and, like, he, like, every weekend, allegedly. That's what the red.

[Annie Letterman]

Look up to him.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Yeah.

[Annie Letterman]

I'm like, dude, dude, is Reddit like, the greatest place on earth?

[Chrissy Chaos]

It's amazing.

[Annie Letterman]

You just have to not look at yourself and you're like. You're like, you're the best.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Oh, yeah.

[Annie Letterman]

But I actually think Redditors are sweet, too, because they're. They're kind of talking behind your back. Yeah, they're not. It's not for you to see. Yeah, it's very nice. Like, let's just get over here and talk shit on this person.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Yeah, Yeah, I think.

[Annie Letterman]

Let's not tag them. Like, let's just, like, be over here having our own fun.

[Chrissy Chaos]

That's the thing. They don't actually. They're. They're. They're trying to not hurt you. Yeah, but if you. If you look for it, it's you.

[Annie Letterman]

You're cutting and it's your fault.

[Chrissy Chaos]

It's bad, dude.

[Annie Letterman]

I made a real decision with myself and I just completely stopped. And it was awesome.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Yeah. Yes. Somebody. Somebody wrote on about me once on Reddit, like, just out of nowhere. No way. They said, hey, just saw Chris Di Stefano at whatever comedy club. They're like, I hate him with a passion, and I'm looking for ways to actively ruin your life.

[Annie Letterman]

I didn't want you to see that.

[Chrissy Chaos]

And it was nothing to do. They just were like, I hated his comedy so much that I want to actually try to ruin his life. I was like, oh, thanks, I guess. All right, great. Wait, why? Because everyone's been saying that LA is dead, and it's like, okay, I get it, I get it, I get it. But I've been here for two days.

[Annie Letterman]

It's not dead. And it's fun.

[Chrissy Chaos]

It's kind of fun. I'm having, like, a good time here. But do you. Why. Why is everyone saying it's dead then?

[Annie Letterman]

What day of the week is it?

[Chrissy Chaos]

Wednesday.

[Annie Letterman]

It's like, you get, like, a slow Tuesday and someone's like, it's dead.

[Chrissy Chaos]

You'll never move back East.

[Annie Letterman]

I could. Anything could happen in my life. I'm very open to everything. I'm very happy here. I, like. I live by the beach and, yeah, every time I fly in, I'm, like, happy to be back.

[Chrissy Chaos]

You don't miss New York?

[Annie Letterman]

I don't remember. I have, like, a blackout vibe with New York. No, I really. I get a lot of anxiety leading up to going back to New York because I don't remember the rhythm. I don't remember my pacing. Even though I loved living in New York, I still walked on the streets, like, hugging the street like a crazy person.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Yeah.

[Annie Letterman]

Like, I'm alive, you know, singing, like, fucking Frank Sinatra and shit. But I. So I know that I love it. I just don't remember what I loved about it. And I think now that I'm like, right, like, your money in LA constraint, you can live a real nice.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Yeah. New York City.

[Annie Letterman]

In New York, you have to, like, have had, like, a prince in your family.

[Chrissy Chaos]

It's so crazy. I mean, I was doing well, and I'm just like, I cannot provide for my family the way that they fucking want to. Like, I cannot give Jazz the house, the Gucci. I can't keep up with the shit. Yes.

[Annie Letterman]

It's very crazy.

[Chrissy Chaos]

My daughters, like, they want so much shit. It's so expensive. And I'm like, I can't add another show at the Houston Improv. I can't do it. I'm not selling. You know, I had to cancel my shows in Oxnard because I'm just not selling. Why is Oxnard? I couldn't sell a ticket there. Okay. But I thought they liked me because I'm Trump. They like us because I have a Trump face, you know?

[Annie Letterman]

You got scared all of a sudden. Yeah, I was like, I was getting a pedicure and my spray tan was crusting off.

[Chrissy Chaos]

By your boyfriend's mother?

[Annie Letterman]

Yes. She came into town, she flies in for it.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Yes.

[Annie Letterman]

Only family touches my feet, but. So this woman's, like, giving, and my spray tan's, like, crusting off, and Trump was on the thing, and I was like, I literally look like. Like, my foot looks like him. It was like, the exact same amount of spray tan.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Yeah, he. He.

[Annie Letterman]

He needs a better spray, but I think he likes that you can't. That it's not, like, fully on the. I don't know what it is, but it's as a spray tan girl, like, right? I. He's like, always, like, seven days into a Spray tan.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Well, he's like. There's, like, a local pizzeria in the neighborhood I live in that Trump would always go in. And they said, yeah, exactly.

[Annie Letterman]

Do you smell the seat when you go in?

[Chrissy Chaos]

Well, they said he would tip. Even, like, you know, obviously way before he was president, he would just, like, go in there and get, like, a pie. Or, like, his people would get, like, a pie from him, and then they would. He would give the workers, like, $1,000 cash and, like, tips. Like, when, you know, people, like, Indiana.

[Annie Letterman]

Is he gonna get flagged for election propaganda?

[Chrissy Chaos]

That's Rhino. But he supposedly.

[Annie Letterman]

He can't even say his name.

[Chrissy Chaos]

He's. He really can't. Yeah, I guess. Bleep it out.

[Annie Letterman]

Donnie Taylor. I know we're slaves to the algorithm.

[Chrissy Chaos]

I know. I just. Well, I have to be. Cause I gotta fucking pay this rent in New York. But everybody who knows him says he's, like, the most fun guy to be around, which I guess I believe.

[Annie Letterman]

I don't think anyone didn't think he was, like, fun.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Yeah.

[Annie Letterman]

They just got worried when he became like. We all watched the Apprentice. We're like, the show rules.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Yeah.

[Annie Letterman]

We weren't like, the president. We were like, oh, this is different.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Yeah. It's like, you don't want, like, one of your friends to be president. Like, you're fine.

[Annie Letterman]

Do you want anyone to be. I don't think I've met anyone. More like, I'd like this person to be president.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Why?

[Annie Letterman]

I don't want it to be someone that I've met. I don't want it to be.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Could you imagine, like, going into politics now?

[Annie Letterman]

And on Theo Vaughn's podcast, it was, like, actually so cute, though. And Theo dressed up.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Yeah. It was a good pot. I like that he had him. And then Bernie.

[Annie Letterman]

Bernie.

[Chrissy Chaos]

It was good. I want to get Hunter Biden on the pod. That's what I. I think that's every comic's main goal. Yes.

[Annie Letterman]

Chad Hanks on mine. He did, like, Delia's podcast once. I'm like, hello.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Why won't he do yours?

[Annie Letterman]

I don't. I just don't have access to him.

[Chrissy Chaos]

You don't?

[Annie Letterman]

I. I DM him. I go, get your ass in my pocket. Like, I'm like, get your ass in my pocket.

[Chrissy Chaos]

And he won't do it.

[Annie Letterman]

He just hasn't. We haven't connected.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Jesus. I'm sure Tim knows him. Doesn't Ty know him? Tim knows everybody. Timmy D. No, no, for real. That'd be.

[Annie Letterman]

I heard he's been giving Scott Peterson, conjugal visits.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Yeah, I'd love to see. I'd love to see Timmy Dean, you know, catch. Catch a straight guy who, you know, gets caught out as gay. Do you want to drink your coffee?

[Annie Letterman]

Yeah.

[Chrissy Chaos]

I know you. I feel like I wanted to give you a coffee minute. Look at that beam.

[Annie Letterman]

Do you know what is beam?

[Chrissy Chaos]

It's like a dream potion. Like, it helps you sleep. It's like Fentanyl, but in a cup. I. Wait. So we were talking last night, by the way, when part of that story is the. The car that Tim has, beautiful Rolls Royce, but it doesn't have a third seat in the back, so we had too many people in the car, which.

[Annie Letterman]

Is actually so funny. And snow person to only like, sorry, yeah, four seats. No one sits in this car.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Yeah. And then Annie had to sit on my lap, and I had texted her the address to this podcast for today. And then her phone just kept vibrating because her text vibrate. But how. She had her phone in her back pocket. So she was just sitting on my lap with her phone in the back pocket.

[Annie Letterman]

I was very careful to not arch my back.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Yeah. And I literally thought that she was, like, silently farting on my leg.

[Annie Letterman]

I was like, why is it vibrating on his. This is like, such a nightmare for me to just like. I'm just like, okay, here we are.

[Chrissy Chaos]

I was just sending Annie texts just to fucking feel the vibrations on my balls. I was like, I sent the address like, 100 times.

[Annie Letterman]

I was just like, tell Jazzy I'm not arching. But it was. Yeah. Okay, so later. This is embarrassing confession.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Come on.

[Annie Letterman]

Later, I go into the bathroom and I have just period blood all over my pants. So I. How funny would it be if I just left, like, a blood and then.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Going home and explain. Trying to explain that it was like. And then you get a call and you have to show Jasmine your period.

[Annie Letterman]

I'm like, I swear on my life. I pull a tampon out. I'm like, I swear on my life.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Yeah, you have to. Yeah. Because that was one of those situations where I was like, you know, this is. I'm going to get in trouble for this. I just felt like I was in trouble.

[Annie Letterman]

No, I know. And that's. Obviously, we'll talk about it on camera. Because if you don't talk about it on camera, then it is. It is bad.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Yeah. I mean, I've been. Yeah, it is. It is.

[Annie Letterman]

No, I was like, I didn't want to do it because I was like, I feel like I have such a good relationship with Jazzy.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Yes, you do. She loves you.

[Annie Letterman]

I love Jazzy. Jazzy, you can trust me.

[Chrissy Chaos]

You really can. She. She does. She does.

[Annie Letterman]

She trusts me. We live together. A whole bunch of things.

[Chrissy Chaos]

We did. I know. I. We did. We did. I didn't. I. I wasn't the roommate that would sneak in at night and smell your underwear.

[Annie Letterman]

Sometimes, like. Well, cuz that like clip will pop up and Racine's like, she's been telling that joke for years. And I'm like, yeah, Racine. And it still happened.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Still. You're still a psycho. I can't believe he has a kid.

[Annie Letterman]

Oh, you know what it is? It's from when I told it on your. That it was him on your podcast. Oh, that was fun. You got nervous. Jazz is going to do this to me.

[Chrissy Chaos]

I know she's here. I. Yeah, I don't. I don't know. I've been. I've been going through, you know, for me, I've been like having like this thing where I'm like, I guess. Cause Delilah's getting my little. My oldest one is like nine now. So now she has this thing where she's like, hey, every time I leave, she's like, yeah, but what's it gonna cost to leave, dad? That's what she says. Like, deep question. She's like, you're like, next week I have to go to Austin for a week. And she's like, a week? What's that really gonna cost, dad? I'm like, well, I'm doing Kill Tony. And she's like, like a week. That's a lot.

[Annie Letterman]

She's like, she's like, is Casey Rocket going to be there? Is the crab walk going to be there?

[Chrissy Chaos]

Yeah. She's like, is Ari Mattis the Estonian?

[Annie Letterman]

Is she giving you. Is she giving you like David Lucas Burns like you're looking ass having ass, booty hole.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Yeah, yo, she. I mean, she. Because of the YouTube algorithm, she. We let her watch YouTube. She's seen multiple clips of Kill Tony. Like she. She actually does know who they are. She doesn't get the comedy, but she knows their faces, I think.

[Annie Letterman]

Comedy, huh? I hope she doesn't get the comedy.

[Chrissy Chaos]

I mean, she might. I mean, I would actually want her.

[Annie Letterman]

Rape your daughter comedy. I don't want to scape or I don't want to pigeonhole Kill Tony jokes.

[Chrissy Chaos]

But yeah, that's what it is.

[Annie Letterman]

Come on. With a lot of rape your daughter. When I did it, it was. I was like, oh my God, I get some fucking crazy services over here.

[Chrissy Chaos]

I know, I know. So she. So now. So now it's like when I go away now, it's like my daughter's old enough where she'll like, text me, like, from you know, Jazz's phone and be like, what are you doing right now? And I'm like, you know, I'm. I'm about to go on stage or whatever it is, and she's like, you know, the other day she texted me I was gone for like three days and I was like, oh, I'm doing these shows, whatever, you know, blah, blah. She's like, oh, great, daddy. Like, love you so much. And then she like, dot short. Hope it was all worth it. Like, what the. What?

[Annie Letterman]

It's one thing getting it from your partner.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Yeah, from my nine year old daughter. Just smashing.

[Annie Letterman]

I feel like her DNA is just attacking you.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Yeah, she's just. I'm like, what did I do? And I was like, I'm just like making money, like for you, you know, like, so you can have what you want.

[Annie Letterman]

Well, okay, so they say that you like by like seven and before. You're like a sponge and you're just absorbing. So whatever. She's gonna be like. With money when she's older is like what you basically taught her to be, like, right? Showing signs of money anxiety is not good.

[Chrissy Chaos]

It's not good. She's gonna be like, yeah, yeah. She. She got in trouble the other day. She just. School started a couple weeks ago because I've been trying to teach her, like, you know, whatever. Like, she has a little job on Saturday. She like, cleans the gym that her mom works at. So she'll. They'll let her, like, clean the equipment or whatever and she'll give her.

[Annie Letterman]

Illegal.

[Chrissy Chaos]

I know, right? Fully illegal. They're treating her like.

[Annie Letterman]

That's why she's worried. She's like, I'm only getting paid a quarter a week, dad.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Yeah, so she's like, 10, I get. She gets 10.

[Annie Letterman]

She's like, how many ice cream cones did you get for this trip, dad? Yeah, in Austin, 10.

[Chrissy Chaos]

$10 cash she gets. And then what she does is she keeps it like in a little box. And I told her by Christmas, like, whatever you save by Christmas, whatever that number is, I'm gonna double it. I'm gonna match her for you, and then I'm gonna put it in.

[Annie Letterman]

And that's why you have to go to. She's really like. She's doing so much that you have to go to Austin for me?

[Chrissy Chaos]

Yeah. For real. I'm like, holy shit. How much this girl's like a workaholic. And so. And so I.

[Annie Letterman]

You're like. You're actually driving me away.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Yeah, it's.

[Annie Letterman]

I have to leave because of.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Because of. You take everything I say so seriously, and I'm not going to lie to you. But. So I was like, oh, you know, I'm going to double it and I'm going to put in a savings account. And I'm trying to teach her about, like, interest and all that because nobody taught me money ever.

[Annie Letterman]

Nobody taught me.

[Chrissy Chaos]

So I'm like, at least, like, I have a credit card open in her name that she doesn't have access to. Well, no, no.

[Annie Letterman]

She'S already gone bankrupt twice.

[Chrissy Chaos]

I know.

[Annie Letterman]

She's nine years old.

[Chrissy Chaos]

It's all. It's all to hide it. That's where I put all my only fans accounts. I have it on my daughter's credit.

[Annie Letterman]

Grandmother. She's going to be voting this election.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Do the right thing this November. And so the other day, she got into an argument with one of her classmates or whatever, and the school called.

[Annie Letterman]

One of her clients.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Yes, one of her clients. And she was like. She said they were on the playground and somehow money came up or whatever. And they were like, oh, that. She said to, like, one kid. She was like. She was like, yeah. She was like, I bet your dad doesn't even double your money so you can get interest. And then the kid was like, what are you talking about? Like, I don't even know, like, what that means. And then she goes, I'm tired of being around these retards. And I was like, wait, what? And then so they were like, you know, we understand, like, she may have heard that word, like, in maybe your husband's comedy and all that, but we just want to, like, slam kill Tony. Yeah, yeah.

[Annie Letterman]

Because then the teacher was like, oh, my God, do you know him?

[Chrissy Chaos]

Yeah. And so I was like, oh, shit. But there's a part of me that's like, wants to reprimand her. Like, you can't say that word. I get that. But there's other part of me that's like. She heard it on the Internet, right? She's actually like, I don't know. She's like, defending herself in her position. And I don't know. I don't want. I don't want to, like, limit. I don't want to.

[Annie Letterman]

I don't want her to hang out with poor people is really what I'm.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Saying, what it is. I don't want to discipline her. And then, like, because I feel like, sometimes, like, the hard part about having a. Like, a rambunctious child is like, I want her to, like, play by the rules and be good.

[Annie Letterman]

You want to physically say, don't get caught doing the bad things.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Yes.

[Annie Letterman]

Like, it's hard to say a bad word.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Yeah.

[Annie Letterman]

Don't say it in a. Yeah, like, wrong way.

[Chrissy Chaos]

I don't want to yell at her and have this talk. Like, I kind of. I kind of want to be like, I love that you're badass and these kids.

[Annie Letterman]

Yeah. No, she's perfect. You're a kid. I mean, I haven't seen her in years, but I love her.

[Chrissy Chaos]

I love it.

[Annie Letterman]

So funny. She's so cool. She's so strong.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Like, two weeks ago. Two weeks ago, I. We were in the mall, and this, like, really pretty, like, girl came up to me and just, like, wanted, like, a quick picture, was like, you know, nice compliment, whatever. And, like, I did it, like, no problem, whatever. And then, like, literally, as soon as, like, we started walking, we took, like, two steps, and Delilah was like, you think I'm gonna tell mom about that? And I was like, what do you mean? There's nothing to tell. She goes, do you think I'm gonna tell mom that you took a picture with a pretty girl? And I was like, I think you can if you want to. She goes, you know, you don't want me to tell mom that you just took a picture with that girl. And I was like. I was like, yeah, I guess I don't. I was like, but I didn't do anything wrong. She goes, I know you didn't do anything wrong, but, you know, I can or can tell Mom. And I was like.

[Annie Letterman]

She's like, so are we Dublin or tripling?

[Chrissy Chaos]

Well, that's what I. Well, that's what I know. That's what she said. She goes. So she goes. She wants, like. She wanted, like, these, like, platform, like, New Balance, like, those kind of. She goes, can we go to the Kid's Foot Locker and get those?

[Annie Letterman]

I'm, like, so flattered. I have the same shoes as a Gen Alpha.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Yes. Yes. As a nine year old. So I, like, bought her these sneakers. And I was kind of like, there's a part of me that's like, shit. Like, that's manipulative. But then there's another part of me like, yo, this girl is already, like, adjusting to this world, like, knowing exactly what power she holds.

[Annie Letterman]

Right. She needs to hustle for money because she's worried about her dad being able to provide for her.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Yeah. Because she's kind of already. She knows. She's like, you're doing well now. She's like, but we can all feel like you're going to blow it. We can kind of just feel like we already are.

[Annie Letterman]

But dad, you never got on snl.

[Chrissy Chaos]

I never even got an audition. Like, we already lost our beautiful house on Staten Island. Like, that lasted two years.

[Annie Letterman]

Gone. I know. I saw this on Rogan.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Yes. So I sold it. So that's been a big problem for us. Is I really.

[Annie Letterman]

How are you feeling with your. Are you feeling better?

[Chrissy Chaos]

Yeah, I feel like I let them down because they. We moved from Staten island. So I was like, it's isolating. It's this, it's that. And then when we moved, I was like, I was the adult. Like, my kids didn't feel that way. My kids were like, we all have humongous bedrooms, a in ground pool, a park. Like, just drive a little ground is very important. Like a sick. We had like a sick house and it was like, who cares where it is? Like, the kids loved it there and I took it from them. So I feel like very, very guilty about that. And now we're living in like a rental home. That's nice. But nowhere near as nice as what. Far as what Staten island was.

[Annie Letterman]

Do you think that they've adjusted and.

[Chrissy Chaos]

They forgive you and are my daughter. My nine year old does. My three year old doesn't know any difference. And my 14 year old, he's just like, whatever. He's just like, he's like, he's got a girlfriend. He's like, I don't give a fuck. He's got. Yeah, he's got a sword. Like, he's got like a. He's got a crazy sword. He doesn't give a shit. He like stabs the wall with his sword. He's like, put the sword through.

[Annie Letterman]

Like it's a rental. You're like, oh my God.

[Chrissy Chaos]

I know. I'm like, dude, come on, what the fuck? And so. But my daughter, I mean, she was, I definitely think upset with me. Was not upset with me. She goes, I remember she was like, because the neighborhood we live in now is a great neighborhood. It's like you can walk to everything, get to the city in 15 minutes. But to a child, she's just the house. She's like. And she actually, her and her brother, like a few months ago they like came to. I was just like watching TV and it was just me with them. And they came up to me and they were like, you know, like, very carefully and they were like, you know, we just want to know, did you lose your job? And is that why we're living here now? And I was like, no, we're.

[Annie Letterman]

You know, I lost my mind.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Yes, that's what it is. I was like, we.

[Annie Letterman]

I turned 40.

[Chrissy Chaos]

That's what it is.

[Annie Letterman]

I'm losing my mind. I think it's okay. Yeah, I think it's okay. I think it's okay to make mistakes and do things, and it's fine.

[Chrissy Chaos]

That's what I'll say is I. I think that these mistakes that I've made have been so, like, big in my mind. And I've been like, every night for, like, a year, like, waking up, being like, what the Did I do? But. But I feel like I made these mistakes because my daughters, my kids will never make this financial mistake. I mean, they might, but they are going to at least have, like. There was nobody around me in my family to stop me, because nobody knew anything. Nobody's ever even owned a home.

[Annie Letterman]

If only you'd taken that picture with that girl before you made that decision.

[Chrissy Chaos]

I know.

[Annie Letterman]

Could have been like, do you want to tell mom or not? We're staying with the pool.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Yeah, I know. I know. And so there's a part of me that's like, oh, do we just go back and I get them that house and that life and, like, get them back in? But now I'm like, well, I've changed their schools twice.

[Annie Letterman]

You have to, like, just trust there's a reason you did it. And it's like, it'll end up working out.

[Chrissy Chaos]

It'll work out somehow. I don't.

[Annie Letterman]

You have to trust it.

[Chrissy Chaos]

I'll get them the house. Like, for me, it's like, just keep working hard. I'll find their house for them.

[Annie Letterman]

Right.

[Chrissy Chaos]

You know, I'll be living in a Ramada, but I'll find whatever it's about, it's about them. I wouldn't even.

[Annie Letterman]

This lifestyle is crazy. You're like, are you gonna have kids?

[Chrissy Chaos]

I'm like, yeah, it's one of those things.

[Annie Letterman]

Give birth at a fucking Holiday Inn.

[Chrissy Chaos]

It's funny. Like, this real estate agent, like, older lady, she's like. It's like a very cool lady, like, in her 60s, kind of seen it all. Smoke. Was smoking cigarettes in the houses. She's showing, like, illegal shit you can't even do. And so she. She showed us three houses where each one of the houses had a second apartment, like a basement apartment or an apartment next door to rent out. But I was like, I think she's showing because she's like, oh, this guy's gonna get thrown out, so he's gonna live in that apartment. Yeah, I think she was doing that. And then by the third one, Jasmine was like, I think that that's what she's doing. Right. I was like, she's claiming that it's for a second family income, but she knows that it's like, we would be, like, fighting in the open house. And she was like, I got to get this guy close. This guy wants to be close to his kids. I get it. So, like, let me just show them two families.

[Annie Letterman]

Bring one girl back to that place.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Could you imagine?

[Annie Letterman]

Bring one girl back to your one bedroom.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Oh, she would lose your little studio.

[Annie Letterman]

Apartment inside your family.

[Chrissy Chaos]

All of a sudden, I see my. My stepson's sword coming through the walls. Jasmine just coming.

[Annie Letterman]

All of a sudden, there's an ingrown pool. She just dug a hole. It's a grave.

[Chrissy Chaos]

But yeah, yeah, she's. Yeah, yeah. So. But I'm trying to. I, I. It's weird because you ever have this thing where, like, I was gonna call.

[Annie Letterman]

You, I was, like, worried about you.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Well, people. Well, people. I appreciate that. Thanks for not calling people.

[Annie Letterman]

You're busy.

[Chrissy Chaos]

No, you should have called. You can always call. I think, like, it's this weird thing too, where people, like, a lot. I've heard a lot. Like, it is so funny.

[Annie Letterman]

It tells them you were gonna call.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Yeah.

[Annie Letterman]

You're like, I was worried.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Damn. Where, like, people are like, oh, you.

[Annie Letterman]

Know, I was gonna call, and then I got the hiccups, you know.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Have you ever had people say, like, oh, congrats on everything that's going on. I see you're killing a Blah, blah, blah. But inside you're like, I couldn't be a bigger loser and feel like a bigger f. Earlier, as a human being, when people.

[Annie Letterman]

I love that I have the appearance of doing well all the time.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Right.

[Annie Letterman]

I just go like, oh, sweet.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Yeah. So you think so you don't you like that perception of it?

[Annie Letterman]

I'm like, oh, my God. Like, I don't. Like, I used to, like, correct people. And then I went, let's let it ride.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Right? Yeah. Just whatever. You think everything.

[Annie Letterman]

I do believe things are always going to get better and, like, you know, if I can keep myself, like, in the right energy.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Yeah. Literally.

[Annie Letterman]

So I'm just like, oh, maybe they just see, like, what's coming.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Well, like, yesterday, like, you, you know, like, when we, when we hugged you, we were like, oh, you're tripped. You look good. Like, in my. Like when I look at myself in the mirror, I'm like, I think I look horrible. So, like, you literally said that to me.

[Annie Letterman]

You're such a girl. I don't know.

[Chrissy Chaos]

I know. I am a little girl. I'm definitely gay.

[Annie Letterman]

You're so girly and so you're so like, hyper, like, aware. Sexual though.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Yeah. Mateo tells me all the time. He's like, chris, I would love it if you were. But you're not.

[Annie Letterman]

You're gay, like. Cause you just want to get your dick.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Dick sucked. I'm just horny.

[Annie Letterman]

But have you ever gotten a blowjob from a guy?

[Chrissy Chaos]

No. No.

[Annie Letterman]

You're not gay. Would have had it. You're like, horny enough that you would have done it.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Matteo was like, dude, I'm telling you, he's like, I've, I. I've. I've crunched every number. You're not gay.

[Annie Letterman]

Yeah.

[Chrissy Chaos]

And so.

[Annie Letterman]

And so maybe you just like, got girls from acting gay.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Maybe that's what it is. It's all a. I did gay bait.

[Annie Letterman]

But you don't seem gay enough for that to work. I have.

[Chrissy Chaos]

No, I'm not.

[Annie Letterman]

I've had like, guy friends who like, seem so gay.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Right.

[Annie Letterman]

And then when they, like, start hitting on me, I'm like, yeah, it's such a bet. You're like, like, right, you were straight, but you are straight.

[Chrissy Chaos]

But the straight. Because you know what? Matteo had a good point. He was like. And it's things you. We've known, but, like, you don't think about all the time was like, gay. Like, actual straight guys who are gay, who don't know they're gay, they get very angry at, like, gay. They make. They make hard. He was like, you're like, always like, embracing the gay community. Like, that's, that's why you're straight.

[Annie Letterman]

You embrace them. Like, really?

[Chrissy Chaos]

Yeah, really. Like in a glory hall.

[Annie Letterman]

Yeah. You turn them around. Yeah, but prom style. You told them.

[Chrissy Chaos]

But you. But you were like, oh, like, you know, like. And I was like, I'm not. Like, I have like this false sense of self. So, like, I literally got back to Don's apartment last night at 2am and I ate two pieces of chocolate cake. Because I was like, annie's wrong. He's the real me. And I don't say that out loud, but in the front of my head, I was like, Annie said that I was muscular, but she's. This is the real me. And I'm just shoving cha. So I have these I have these issues.

[Annie Letterman]

But then do you, like, do you punish yourself the other direction where you, like, don't eat bad the next day or work out a bunch?

[Chrissy Chaos]

I worked out and then I tried to even it out. But you know what I stopped doing? Tell me what you think about this. I stopped going to therapy because I felt like I would be getting better. I would have therapy on Fridays, and I would be getting better by, like, Thursday. But then Friday I have to talk about all these thoughts again. And then thoughts become reality and I'm like, I agree. I could have just actually been out of it. But now that I have a session with you for an hour, you're going to force me to talk about this and then it's real again.

[Annie Letterman]

I know. I just. I mean, I got to the point. The last therapist I had, like, when I was living in Santa Fe, I think it was, it was like, I'm like, I'm mad at my parents again.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Yeah.

[Annie Letterman]

I don't want to be mad at my parents anymore. Like, getting old. I want to not be mad at my parents. I do, like, hypnotherapy. I do other kinds of stuff.

[Chrissy Chaos]

What's hypnotherapy?

[Annie Letterman]

It's like.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Like hypnosis?

[Annie Letterman]

No, they don't do that. But it's like you talk about, like, whatever your problem is or whatever your goal is or whatever you're blocked in and you kind of get to like, whatever the belief is you're telling yourself that's like, that's sort of perpetuate. Like, so, like, if. So if you're like, I'm trying to think of, like, one of the things you said that could be like, a problem.

[Chrissy Chaos]

I'm gay. I don't. I feel fat. I don't feel. I feel like a loser.

[Annie Letterman]

Yeah, but it would be like, why do you feel like a loser? Like, going kind of like investigating, like, to the bottom of, like, what is. What you tell yourself all the time. Like, I'm a loser. I'm not good enough.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Right.

[Annie Letterman]

Like, it usually comes back to, like, self love.

[Chrissy Chaos]

A lot of it comes from my this in doing a career in comedy. I was a physical therapist and my entire family was like, that's not a real career comedy. Like, it's not real. Like, the physical therapist was a real thing. So I think even though that that was back then and now I've turned into a real.

[Annie Letterman]

Before you were seven, Honestly, it's probably said to.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Before you were seven that I don't even remember.

[Annie Letterman]

You've been telling yourself the whole time.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Interesting.

[Annie Letterman]

And then so you kind of figure out what that is.

[Chrissy Chaos]

And, like, do you actually remember memories from when you were before 7 with this therapy?

[Annie Letterman]

Sometimes. Yeah. Like, sometimes you go back just father bills, like dick.

[Chrissy Chaos]

It's just growing. That's what I keep seeing. I'm like this.

[Annie Letterman]

You're like, I'm not gay.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Yeah.

[Annie Letterman]

But you kind of like. I don't know, you have, like, core memories that you remember of, like, bad things happening, don't you?

[Chrissy Chaos]

I do, yeah.

[Annie Letterman]

When's the first time you remember feeling a kalooza?

[Chrissy Chaos]

The first time feeling like a loser is probably when I was, like, 12 years old. And not only did I get picked last to play basketball, like, they.

[Annie Letterman]

So hacky.

[Chrissy Chaos]

I know.

[Annie Letterman]

What, that you got picked last and that's your trauma.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Well, but then. But then. But then the kids, they. I was. I know. I am.

[Annie Letterman]

To call your, like, shame. Hacky is funny, too.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Yeah, it's funny. That's how hacky I am. But these kids, you know, when we were playing, like, they were like, you know, instead of, like, playing the basketball game, they were playing the basketball game, but they would, like, fake like they were going to shoot a shot and then just rifle the ball at my head. So they kept. Yeah, yeah.

[Annie Letterman]

It's easy.

[Chrissy Chaos]

So they were like. And they just. Then I'd, like, fall on the floor and, like. And they. So, like, they made the game instead of scoring baskets. It was like, how many times?

[Annie Letterman]

So rifle. So you're, like, afraid the joke's on you and you're missing it.

[Chrissy Chaos]

I think may. I don't know. Honestly, I really don't. I really don't know. I think that there's always been in my life a lot of, you know, I have a mother who's very anxious and who would always be like, are you sure that that's the right move, Chris? Like, really? Comedy. Are you honestly sure?

[Annie Letterman]

It's like not trusting yourself.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Yeah. Oh, my God. I don't trust. I don't. I don't believe. I don't trust in myself.

[Annie Letterman]

And then you second guess all the things you do, and then you basically torture yourself because either decision you make.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Yeah, anything that I do in my career, anything.

[Annie Letterman]

But the truth is, you were unhappy in your house, so you moved and you made a decision and you moved, which is, like, a good thing. Right, Right. And your kids being closer to the city is not bad.

[Chrissy Chaos]

No, it's gonna be cool.

[Annie Letterman]

And they're. When they're older, they're gonna really appreciate it.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Yeah. Yeah. I Hope so. But I think for me, anything that I ever do in my career, I always think is. It was, I don't wanna say easy, but it was like, maybe, like, for example, I'm like, oh, I got a chance to do Radio City, right? And great show, whatever. But I'm like, yeah, but I only got to do it and I only was able to sell it out because everybody had money because of the pandemic.

[Annie Letterman]

And the surplus and I'm not good enough. So it's about not being good enough, not trusting.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Where it's like. Where it's like, yeah. It's like, yeah.

[Annie Letterman]

Not deserving.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Yeah. It's like, ok, yeah, I got X, Y and Z. Like, oh, yeah. I wound up becoming. Because of those incidents, it's always like, oh, I play basketball in college, but it was division three, so it's like, it's not like everything in my life is that, oh, yeah, I was able to sell a lot of tickets, but it's like that anybody could do it at that time. It wasn't really. It would have been. I really would. I always create something in my mind like, oh, if I could sell out Radio City now when nobody's selling tickets, then that would mean something. Something.

[Annie Letterman]

Do you think it motivates you to have this sort of anxiety? Do you feel like you have to have it to keep succeeding, to push yourself?

[Chrissy Chaos]

No. And I will say, over the last couple of months, my anxiety has been getting very, very, very exhausting. And this whole mindset, you seem like.

[Annie Letterman]

Ready to not have it.

[Chrissy Chaos]

It's very exhausting where something internally is like, okay, I'm done being this version. I can't do this anymore. Like, I'm not enjoying my life even.

[Annie Letterman]

Though I'm having success, because I have, like, I have bouts of anxiety too, but I don't have kids. Like, I can only imagine the kids.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Actually help with it because the kids will, they'll get you out of it. Like my. When my 3 year old, like when I'm having an anxiety thing about like not selling tickets or something, my 3 year old will be like, can we just. Can you put on the tutu? And you can be. They call me Princess Daddy. Like, can you just be Princess Daddy? Like, they're, they don't even know that I'm going through something. They're like, put on the tutu, we're gonna play dolls. And then I'll just do that. And then I'm like. And then I'm lost in that for 30 minutes.

[Annie Letterman]

That's good.

[Chrissy Chaos]

You know? And then I'll snap back out of it when Jasmine will be like, let me see your fucking phone.

[Annie Letterman]

And then you've done something and there's something on the phone, isn't there?

[Chrissy Chaos]

Yeah. And I'm like, how do I. Cuz.

[Annie Letterman]

You want to have problems. Cuz you don't deserve to.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Just be calm and happy and always I, I do. You know Tank Sinatra?

[Annie Letterman]

You'll get a ball shoved at your head.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Right? Do you know Tank?

[Annie Letterman]

I don't know him personally, but yeah, he's great.

[Chrissy Chaos]

He's like a, you know, gym fitness influencer, but like a, you know, a, a meditating meathead kind of guy. And he's like, you are. Cuz he went through this. He was like 20 or sober, like a vicious alcoholic. And he's been 20 years sober. Like has this like great outlook on life now. He's like, what's happened is you actually don't even know who. You don't even know how to be calm. The actual real you. You're like, you've created like six other people in front of that. So he was like, I don't know how you kill them. He was like, but I'm telling you, the thing that you really need to do is just get spiritual and turn back to religion. That's what you need to do. You're out of control because you don't have. Even if you. I was like, I'm not even saying you have to believe in God, whatever, but you have to have something. You have to have some type of discipline. So it's religion. And then comes the spirituality.

[Annie Letterman]

You have meditate.

[Chrissy Chaos]

I was. And then I stopped.

[Annie Letterman]

What were you doing? TM.

[Chrissy Chaos]

TM for 20 minutes twice.

[Annie Letterman]

Doing it again?

[Chrissy Chaos]

Yeah. But I was like, I can't. Did you feel like I can't possibly. 20 minutes twice a day.

[Annie Letterman]

You always do it twice a day. That's such horseshit.

[Chrissy Chaos]

You do it once a day for 20 minutes off.

[Annie Letterman]

I, I didn't do it for two weeks. I did it today. It's like, you just have to be easy on yourself. Like when you miss something, right? And just pick it up again. Because if you're like, oh, I'm an idiot. I didn't do it for three weeks. I better just continue to not do it. Yeah, that's when you REM number and you can do it. You do it.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Do you automatically feel better doing it today for 20 minutes?

[Annie Letterman]

I do. And I stopped five minutes early looking at my phone.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Right.

[Annie Letterman]

I don't even do it.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Well, you're Forgiving of yourself. You're not like a perfectionist with it.

[Annie Letterman]

I'm done myself up.

[Chrissy Chaos]

You're done?

[Annie Letterman]

I had, like, tmj. I mean, I was like, my. I was in pain, all this. I was in fight or flight. I'm like, I got sweaty armpits. I'm like, I'm always like, I have to stop doing. I don't do that anymore.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Yeah. I kind of.

[Annie Letterman]

I just had to make a choice.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Yeah.

[Annie Letterman]

And it's like, I'm kind of like playing a video game at night again. So I just have to, like, notice and be like, curious when I start doing that and go like, what's going on? Like, okay, so I got off of something, I'm eating really well, started vaping.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Great.

[Annie Letterman]

Right. So I'm like, oh, I'm vaping, but only through skank Fest. But then I'm like, I'll just vape again a couple more days. You know, it's like, I do like to have something to quit. I think I'm addicted to, like, being bad and then quitting it and stuff like that.

[Chrissy Chaos]

But do you think, like. Like, I also feel like it's first world problems, what we have. Like, do you think they're not talking like this in Gaza? They're having anxiety about, like, their lives.

[Annie Letterman]

Yeah. But unfortunately our bodies react to whatever. Everything the same. Like, we. We treat it as though. Because we're idiots.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Right?

[Annie Letterman]

Just, like, treat it. Wait, I do hypnosis. You can't say bad things. But we're very smart people.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Oh, yes.

[Annie Letterman]

But you. But it's like, you know, we just. We treat every, like, little social thing like it's life or death, but that.

[Chrissy Chaos]

You think that's just being a human being.

[Annie Letterman]

Yeah, but I think we're smarter now. And we, like, can do work programs that help us through that. You just have to, like, keep course correcting because you have a habit of. Of, like, going to anxiety and going to that, and you're getting a hit from that. So it's like dopamine. Yeah.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Yeah.

[Annie Letterman]

So you're used to that, and you just have to keep, like, course correcting. And I think, like, with people like us, we're afraid maybe we won't be funny or something. Or, like, we won't even know who we are.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Yeah.

[Annie Letterman]

And I'm like, if I'm not funny, I'm like, I don't feel like I'm, like, worth being on this earth.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Right.

[Annie Letterman]

It's the only thing I ever did that was like. I'm like, oh, good. This garners like everything else was like, right. Horrific. So. But now I'm having to be like, well, maybe I'm just gonna not be funny sometimes and be serious. Yeah, maybe I have some other things to say.

[Chrissy Chaos]

That okay. Yeah. I think. I think we get so lost too, and like, what other people think of us. Everyone's telling me too to. The big thing now is everyone's got to stop watching porn. Are you still watching porn? You stop that.

[Annie Letterman]

I don't watch porn. And I. I watched like the Lacy Peterson thing, but I haven't been watching as porn. What's that?

[Chrissy Chaos]

As porn? The lace.

[Annie Letterman]

Listen, I mean the pants. If I'm watching tv, the pants are off. Yeah, listen. Vibe's on. Tod's not. Like if I'm in at a hotel, I mean, there's. I. I go into a hotel room, I dump my out on the floor, I pee. I don't flush it to assert my dominance over the room. Pants are off. I'm watching Forensic Files.

[Chrissy Chaos]

That's how it is. Yeah, but so, but you stop.

[Annie Letterman]

You don't watch porn because I'm not watching porn. I'm not watching. I'm basically like.

[Chrissy Chaos]

And what's the thought process behind it, though, for you? Like purifying your mind or something?

[Annie Letterman]

Yes.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Interesting.

[Annie Letterman]

Yeah. Yeah. Cuz with porn, I always had a problem, a conflict anyway, because I'm like, trying to think about, like, are these people into this or not?

[Chrissy Chaos]

Right?

[Annie Letterman]

Like you used to watch James Dean porn because he used to like, kind of like hold them down till they actually liked it, right? But then it turned out he was like, holding it down too long, right? And then I was like, g. Is he like, the porn stars are getting canceled.

[Chrissy Chaos]

I was like, you can't do it. But so I got to try that.

[Annie Letterman]

Cuz I just felt like. Yeah. I don't know, it just. And then I would just like. I would like, masturbate till everything was like, numb, but also hurt. It was just like it wasn't feeling good anymore. It was just like I'm doing everything to excess, right? And so then everything I do, I just quit that.

[Chrissy Chaos]

I was that oic that stopped that for you, like the beginning of it?

[Annie Letterman]

Well, I stopped that kind of naturally.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Before oic.

[Annie Letterman]

Yeah.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Wow.

[Annie Letterman]

But OIC helped with everything.

[Chrissy Chaos]

I'm going to take OIC to stop watching porn.

[Annie Letterman]

It was good, but you lose your muscle.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Yeah, I can't do that.

[Annie Letterman]

Your T will get soft, I feel.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Yeah, I know. I've. I got to figure it out. All right.

[Annie Letterman]

There'll Be something else.

[Chrissy Chaos]

What are you doing for the. Look at your socks. They look like, like old lady, like, you know, like Revolutionary War. Like women that wore, like, those bonnets.

[Annie Letterman]

Socks look like they're just. I honestly just want to zoom in.

[Chrissy Chaos]

On her stupid socks.

[Annie Letterman]

I wanted, I'm covering up my leg hair, but I, I wanted white socks. These are kind of dirty. I got these for a photo shoot I was doing where I had, like, little loafers and, like, the girl socks.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Right.

[Annie Letterman]

But now what I realized is these. No, I know. They look like they, they go with the, the pile of shoes at the Holocaust Museum. If they did a pile of socks in Vietnam.

[Chrissy Chaos]

These are. Annie's wearing Anne Frank socks.

[Annie Letterman]

I'm wearing the, My own Anne Frank.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Yeah. These are the Anne Frank. New Balance. Is it?

[Annie Letterman]

Yeah. They named me Anne Frank.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Oh, beautiful.

[Annie Letterman]

I knew I'd be a writer.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Hi.

[Annie Letterman]

But I noticed on stage, girls that wear the frilly socks, their boyfriends have foot fetishes. I always ask. And they, it's like they're kind of.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Like, not into feet. I'm not into that at all.

[Annie Letterman]

It's like, whatever. I, I, it's like, it's obviously like a, A switch in the brain, because.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Yeah, I don't, I, I'm not.

[Annie Letterman]

If you don't have it, you don't have it.

[Chrissy Chaos]

I'm disgusted kind of with men's feet, women's feet, I don't want, Want to do.

[Annie Letterman]

My fiance wears socks all the time for some reason. I don't know why.

[Chrissy Chaos]

He's a guy that I like that.

[Annie Letterman]

He just always wears socks. So if, if his feet were in a lineup, I wouldn't be able to pick it out. We've been together five years. I wouldn't be able to.

[Chrissy Chaos]

You don't know what his feet look like.

[Annie Letterman]

I would never know who. His feet.

[Chrissy Chaos]

His Asian webbed feet.

[Annie Letterman]

Yeah.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Yeah.

[Annie Letterman]

Weird. They're not even bad feet. Like, I kind of know what they look like, but.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Yeah. Do Asians have webbed feet? Did I make that up? Are you. You're Asian, right? Yeah, I'm Korean. Korean. Shout out, Koreans.

[Annie Letterman]

Are you full Korean?

[Chrissy Chaos]

Full Korea.

[Annie Letterman]

I like full Asian. I don't, I don't have that many full Asians in my life at this point.

[Chrissy Chaos]

So you have a lot of Koreans.

[Annie Letterman]

Out here, back home, maybe he's the only one.

[Chrissy Chaos]

All Chinese, but big dogs, the Chinese.

[Annie Letterman]

I was. I'm so used to being around Asians. I'm so excited to become Asian. I'm so excited. It's amazing because my My homeroom was the Ls, so it was Letterman and Lee. So I was just always with all the Asian people.

[Chrissy Chaos]

All the Asians. Yeah. I think it is an exciting thing to be Asian right now. I think soup.

[Annie Letterman]

Like I.

[Chrissy Chaos]

It's great, the food.

[Annie Letterman]

I'm getting my mother in law, though. Here's the thing about Asian women. They cook you all the food and then you look over, they're not eating it.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Right.

[Annie Letterman]

They're way skinnier than you.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Right.

[Annie Letterman]

Then they call. They will call you fat when you're fat.

[Chrissy Chaos]

That's what it is.

[Annie Letterman]

But you made me fat. So I've asked my mother in law how to say help me.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Yeah.

[Annie Letterman]

In Laos. So I go, soy koi. When she's trying to feed me soy koi. I'm on camera. I'm not like you.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Yeah.

[Annie Letterman]

I don't live in New Jersey.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Yeah, you're like, you're like, jo koy. Jo koi.

[Annie Letterman]

Jo koi.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Jo koi. They. I. The thing of that is the most impressive thing.

[Annie Letterman]

That is how I can remember it.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Yes. And, and, and tell me if even this, like, I don't know if your father, you know, is still with us Korean, but like, nobody has the ability better than an Asian man to hover with their asshole that far off the floor and smoke a cigarette. Do they do that?

[Annie Letterman]

Asian squad. It's crazy. I have to test Todd to see if he can do it.

[Chrissy Chaos]

See if Todd, how low, how quick, like, can he get his asshole a centimeter off the floor and smoke his. Cuz that's what they do.

[Annie Letterman]

Yeah. I do like when he smokes for. I still think smoking's cool on other people.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Yeah. I, I don't mind this. I haven't had a cigarette in years, but I wouldn't mind having a cigarette a week. Is that really that big of a deal?

[Annie Letterman]

I don't think I could. Here's the thing, like, even with the vaping. So Todd vape. So I had completely stopped vaping. I wanted to do something bad, right. I called Dr. Drew probably three, three o'clock in the morning, New York time. Should not have given me a cell phone number. He picks up, by the way. Dr. Drew will pick up.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Really?

[Annie Letterman]

It's crazy. I'm like, you're not supposed to have given me number.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Yeah.

[Annie Letterman]

I call him. He picks up. He's like, hello. And then I go, wait, never mind. This isn't important. He goes, no, what is it? What is it? And I go, is vaping bad? And he goes, I'll call you Tomorrow, I'm just calling for nonsense. I don't even know if he's a real doctor. I'm going to be honest. I love doctor. I don't know if he's a real doctor.

[Chrissy Chaos]

I swear to God. I just.

[Annie Letterman]

Podiatrist. I don't know what he is. Like, I have called him. I. I used. I would treat him like a therapist and stuff. And then I was like, you're not a therapist.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Yeah, my thing is, like, I. You died.

[Annie Letterman]

Diagnoses me are things where I look them up and I'm like, I 100% don't have that.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Yeah, my thing is, like. My thing is, like, if you're. If you're a doctor, but you're also getting your shit edited by your mom's house. Like, I don't trust you.

[Annie Letterman]

There's, like, fart noises in your. Like, no, it's interesting with him because I'm. I'm. I'm like, he'll diagnose me or something. And I get really excited. I'm like, oh, my God. That's what I have.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Right?

[Annie Letterman]

And then I'll look it up. And it's like, it's always something that's like, suicidal, whatever. And I'm like, I have. I have not a suicidal ounce in my body. I feel like people say that before they jump off a bridge, right? But then Bon Jovi saves them. Wait, do you remember this?

[Chrissy Chaos]

No.

[Annie Letterman]

Two weeks ago, Bon Jovi saved a woman from jumping off a bridge.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Really?

[Annie Letterman]

I read the article, though. This is one of the only articles I ever read. He was doing a. It was like, this woman, I think she was young. She had short hair. So it was like. I honestly was like, is this a woman?

[Chrissy Chaos]

Right.

[Annie Letterman]

Are we able to identify this. This almost suicide victim? So she's on a bridge in Nashville, and they just show a picture of Bon Jovi, and you can see the hair. It's like, him or Ellen. You're not sure it's one of the other. And they're like, he saves this person from. And I'm like. I'm trying to, like, figure out the age range of, like, how Bon Jovi would be able to save you. And.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Right.

[Annie Letterman]

Like, do you know who Bon Jovi is? Like, you might know his son for marrying, like, Millie Bobby Brown.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Yeah.

[Annie Letterman]

I'm like, people aren't really, like, famous anymore like that.

[Chrissy Chaos]

No.

[Annie Letterman]

And then I realized. I read the article. He was filming a music video for his new song. So maybe he was, like, the cause of the suicide. Like, maybe they were like, Listening. I'm like, music. Playing the music over and over again. There's like, I'm going to kill myself.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Yeah.

[Annie Letterman]

This boomer.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Wow. John Bon Jovi wasn't so he was shooting the music. Music video on the bridge.

[Annie Letterman]

There's by the way, two Jon Bon Jovis there. Like, I don't know which one of those people.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Yeah, I have no idea.

[Annie Letterman]

And the old one's definitely a woman.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Like literally from that, that angle, I'm like, that's the Vaughn. It's, it's. That woman was about to jump. It would be funny if like he saved her life or whatever. And then she like they all left and then she just went back an hour later. That was so annoying.

[Annie Letterman]

I was like, I kind of want a follow up from her.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Annie Letterman]

I kind of want to follow up. Cuz you just see people almost die and then you're like, you're gone.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Yeah, they. I, I don't know. There's. You ever watched that documentary, the. The Bridge, I think it's called. Or.

[Annie Letterman]

Oh yeah. The person who like lives by the bridge and goes there and tries to save people.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Well, that. But then the one that was always crazy is the one guy who survived. There's one guy who survived the Golden.

[Annie Letterman]

Gate and he regretted it.

[Chrissy Chaos]

He said as. He was like, I couldn't have been more suicidal in my life. Like, he was like, every minute of every day for 10 years, I wanted to kill myself. Every day.

[Annie Letterman]

He's going to be like, bleep, bleep, bleep.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Yeah. Yeah. He's like. And then he's, he's, he's like. And then I. Yeah, I know. Just put, put the sponsors in every day I want to hello. Fresh myself.

[Annie Letterman]

And so I was so close to purple mattressing myself.

[Chrissy Chaos]

And so, and so he, as soon as his feet left the platform, he was like, I instantly.

[Annie Letterman]

We say liquid death for drowning ourselves.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Yes. He instantly regretted it. And he was like. And then I was like, just hoping to. He was like. So I fear, feel like everybody that actually died probably felt like.

[Annie Letterman]

Or maybe they really want to die and that's why they died.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Yeah. And they're like.

[Annie Letterman]

And he didn't want to die and that's why he lived.

[Chrissy Chaos]

That's true.

[Annie Letterman]

He was the only one that really wanted to live.

[Chrissy Chaos]

And then he hears this podcast and he's like, now I'm killing myself.

[Annie Letterman]

He's like, oh God.

[Chrissy Chaos]

He's like, she's right.

[Annie Letterman]

Is this. He thinks you're the girl and I'm the guy.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Oh, John Bon Jov.

[Annie Letterman]

I've never. Have you ever been suicidal?

[Chrissy Chaos]

No.

[Annie Letterman]

Me neither.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Never. I and I.

[Annie Letterman]

Which is where our anxiety is, right?

[Chrissy Chaos]

Yeah. Where it's like, if you really were anxious or whatever, you'd be like, I can't live like that.

[Annie Letterman]

Are your parents still alive?

[Chrissy Chaos]

Yes.

[Annie Letterman]

Do you fear them? Their death? Are you over that since you've had kids?

[Chrissy Chaos]

Yeah, I don't. I don't think about it much. Their death, I think about more like. Yeah, now it's about my kids. I got. I think about like, you know, my dad's 76. My mom's 62. My dad's lost like a lot of weight. He's the healthiest he's ever been, but he's still 76.

[Annie Letterman]

Your dad sucks when you lose weight and you're old because it's like you don't really get the credit.

[Chrissy Chaos]

I know people are just like, okay, dad's my. Everyone thinks he's on ok. And he's pissed. He's like, no. He's like, I eat one tuna fish sandwich a week.

[Annie Letterman]

Bad for people.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Yeah.

[Annie Letterman]

I'm anorexic.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Yeah.

[Annie Letterman]

I feel so bad for people that got in shape during o.

[Chrissy Chaos]

How old is your dad?

[Annie Letterman]

He's 83. Oh, so he's still hilarious, right? Still good on the phone. He. We were on vacation and we. There was an indoor pool. I don't trigger you. There was a pool at the.

[Chrissy Chaos]

We have a podcast. Puddle.

[Annie Letterman]

No, they'll be. It'll. It'll work out. It'll work out. It'll be the right reason that house will burn down or something.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Yeah. We'll see.

[Annie Letterman]

And the kids that live there will die. It'll be like, you saved your kids lives.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Yeah.

[Annie Letterman]

There's a reason you have to believe that.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Okay.

[Annie Letterman]

There's no other. The other option sucks.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Right.

[Annie Letterman]

Over on their kids lives.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Right.

[Annie Letterman]

But you're like, you know, because I'm.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Like, yeah, I made my kids trans.

[Annie Letterman]

Well, it's probably the tutu. Daddy. Tutu princess.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Dad. Daddy.

[Annie Letterman]

But do you talk when you do it?

[Chrissy Chaos]

Yeah, I go the full thing. If my kids want me to do something, I commit 100%.

[Annie Letterman]

Daddy cut your balls off. Okay.

[Chrissy Chaos]

You can't use the safety scissors.

[Annie Letterman]

So it's the ones with the wave.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Right.

[Annie Letterman]

Okay. So we're at this vacation home and he goes into the pool room and my mom and I are talking and my mom's looking into the pool and she goes, he fell. I thought she was talking about someone else. Because if my. If I saw my dad Fell. I would be screaming on the top of my lungs. 83 years old in a fall. That's like, hell, yeah, that's death, right?

[Chrissy Chaos]

It's bad.

[Annie Letterman]

That's like broken hip or whatever. So we look at my dad's like, on all fours of my brother's like, trying to pick him up, and he has skinned his knees completely. And I'm like, oh, my God. It's our first day of vacation. I'm like, this is my worst nightmare in my ass. It's like my worst nightmare. Yeah, just. And then. And he was fine. He just skinned his needs. He like iced them for like 10 minutes. He came to Walmart with us. He was absolutely fine. And his spirit is like, oh, yeah. Like he doesn't get. He's like happy and excited.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Yeah.

[Annie Letterman]

He just didn't let himself get hurt. And so that was like fucking amazing. And it was like almost a relief. It's like when you recover from a brain freeze, you're. You feel better. You're almost like, glad you had a brain freeze.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Right.

[Annie Letterman]

That's how it felt like. It was like, oh my God, it was such a relief.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Was he always like that, your dad? Great space spirit.

[Annie Letterman]

Yeah.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Positive, funny.

[Annie Letterman]

He laughs. I mean, he's like kind of negative. He's like a little self deprecating, but he's funny and he just laughs.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Him and your mom are together?

[Annie Letterman]

Yeah.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Forever.

[Annie Letterman]

Yeah, forever. And then like, you know, my dad has bad balance, so like he'll fall against the wall and stuff and they just start laughing like they just think everything's funny.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Yeah.

[Annie Letterman]

So it's like I have a good example and they don't act old. They don't worry about being old. My, my, my like, parents in law or soon to be, I guess I just called them my parents.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Parents in Laos.

[Annie Letterman]

I mean, they're my, my parents in Laos.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Yeah.

[Annie Letterman]

I mean, they're basically closer to my age than sometimes. I'm like, yeah, who do I side with? Yeah, they're like young and hot. They're in their 50s. Yeah, they are. No, they actually are young and hot and amazing. But so they. He. His dad's a roofer and his mom works as a bank teller. And they're stressed. Like they work all the time. My dad's been retired for like 15 years.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Right.

[Annie Letterman]

Maybe even longer. 20 years.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Right. White privilege.

[Annie Letterman]

Yeah, exactly. They just like, are. I mean, his dad's white. White as. Nice roofer. But so his dad's always like, I'm getting old. He's like, annie, you got to get, like, they caused me so much anxiety because they'll be like. He's like, you better make your money now. Nobody's going to want to have anything. I'm like, jesus Christ. Like, relax.

[Chrissy Chaos]

My dad's like, I just left my podcast.

[Annie Letterman]

Yeah. I'm like, dude, I just got freedom.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Leave me alone.

[Annie Letterman]

Where were you before I left this podcast?

[Chrissy Chaos]

Yeah, I think, oh, look, I did it again.

[Annie Letterman]

It's so fun.

[Chrissy Chaos]

I. I feel like, you know, when the older people start, they also lived like, in a radically different world than we lived in. Like, it was. I know this sounds crazy, but it was easier for them to make money. There was more jobs, more people wanted to help people back then. People don't want to help people anymore.

[Annie Letterman]

The way we are, it's easy for us to make money.

[Chrissy Chaos]

You think so?

[Annie Letterman]

We just have to get out of our own way.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Yeah, I guess I've said some stupid shit.

[Annie Letterman]

There's like, one video could make you. It's like, yeah, I guess we are very easy.

[Chrissy Chaos]

I guess we got to just stop complaining.

[Annie Letterman]

There's nothing to complain about. About. Yeah, there's nothing to complain about. But my. I will say my parents are very spiritual, right? And they, like, are always taking like a course or a class. Like we're doing Kabbalah.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Really?

[Annie Letterman]

Yeah.

[Chrissy Chaos]

So they're not Catholic.

[Annie Letterman]

No, they're just very into, like, spiritual.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Yes. See, I think too, my mom meditates every morning. See, I think that's where a lot of guilt comes from, too. My mom is so religious and her thing, it's like, Catholicism is the only way. So she's like, if you're not going to church every week, you're doing something wrong. And I'm like, I don't want to.

[Annie Letterman]

I have a Sunday show.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Yeah, exactly. It's like, I want to have my own relationship with God.

[Annie Letterman]

Every once in a while I go to, like, I'll go to Quaker meeting and it's. It's exciting because there for them because there's no, like, young Quakers, right? Because they're all about to die. So they're like, yay. And I'm like, I'm never coming back. I just came to like. Cuz I thought it was funny to come back.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Yeah, well, they're all about, like, peace, right?

[Annie Letterman]

Quakers are all peace, silence. Which is very hard for me.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Yeah.

[Annie Letterman]

They fucking made me a comedian.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Right?

[Annie Letterman]

Of course you sit and like, you stand. If you, like, feel moved. It's supposed to be God speaking through you. But I was, I stood every time.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Because you were like, God speaking through me.

[Annie Letterman]

I was like, no, I just, like, wanted to talk. I was like, oh, my God. You guys are all just here. I can talk in front of you.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Yeah.

[Annie Letterman]

I was like 7 years old. I was like, there's kids in Somalia.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Yeah, you're seven, eight years old. Doing the Mic Racine underwear sniff in the Quaker church.

[Annie Letterman]

I've been doing it since I was seven. I'm just gonna name my special micro scene. Smelled my underwear.

[Chrissy Chaos]

That's it. All right. Where can people see you?

[Annie Letterman]

I am on the road. What time does. When does this come out?

[Chrissy Chaos]

Next week.

[Annie Letterman]

I'm in Florida, guys, so if you're not mopping up your lives, I'm so sorry.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Go to Florida. Come.

[Annie Letterman]

It'll be fun.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Where are you?

[Annie Letterman]

I'm in Naples and Tampa. I'm on naples on the 10th and then Tampa the 11th and 12th.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Oh, sweet.

[Annie Letterman]

I'm bringing Josh Potter with me. That'll be fun.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Sweet.

[Annie Letterman]

Then I'm in. I'm like, everywhere.

[Chrissy Chaos]

So what? Annie letterman.com?

[Annie Letterman]

Yeah, any Letterman dot com.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Just go see the dates. Annie Letterman, go see the dates.

[Annie Letterman]

Are you here the 15th of October?

[Chrissy Chaos]

No, I get. I get here the 20th. I'm doing Jeopardy.

[Annie Letterman]

That's so fun. You're doing.

[Chrissy Chaos]

How funny is that? We'll see what happens.

[Annie Letterman]

I'm going to be a house of comedy. I'm in a lot of places.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Go, go. Annie letterman.com.

[Annie Letterman]

Alaska.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Oh, Alaska will be fun.

[Annie Letterman]

Yeah, I'm just doing one night there.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Sweet. Why not? Do you bring Todd sometimes? Cute. You should bring Todd to Alaska.

[Annie Letterman]

He has all these reptiles now, so he's home with the reptiles.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Right, but half white, half Asian. He probably looks like an escort.

[Annie Letterman]

Yeah, he probably would fit in.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Yeah. 100.

[Annie Letterman]

He's. It's fun because he is, like, pale, but then he gets so tan.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Could you. He just gets everyone's. Why?

[Annie Letterman]

I'm like, I am dating a person of color.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Yeah, you are.

[Annie Letterman]

And I get the credit. We'll stop Asian hate. My whole stop Asian hate every single hole.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Yeah. I always. I always make it a point. Even though my kids look literal, like Hitler Youth white. I'm like, it's. It's a beautiful thing to have biracial children. No, I just think they have Puerto Rican.

[Annie Letterman]

We're doing good for the. We're doing good for the world.

[Chrissy Chaos]

100%.

[Annie Letterman]

It's great. But also I have Annie wood. My show every be Thursday.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Not Annie gives you wood. Annie would.

[Annie Letterman]

Yes, but I could give you Call them the giveys. That's it.

[Chrissy Chaos]

I like that.

[Annie Letterman]

For them.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Robin. Gibbies.

[Annie Letterman]

Watch it. YouTube. Annie Letterman.

[Chrissy Chaos]

Love it. Fun.