Podcast Summary: Christ With Coffee On Ice
Episode: “Less Skin, More Standard”
Host: Ally Yost
Date: December 19, 2025
Episode Overview
In this vulnerable, hope-filled episode, host Ally Yost revisits the topic of modesty from a Christian perspective, particularly as it relates to women. Through candid personal stories, scriptural reflection, and honest advice, Ally encourages listeners to reconsider what modesty truly means—not just as a standard for clothing, but as a heart posture rooted in honoring God, oneself, and future relationships. The episode aims to inspire women to embrace confidence through Christ, rethink their intentions, and approach modesty as an empowering journey.
Key Discussion Points & Insights
1. Personal Journey: From Validation to Freedom
- Ally’s Past with Modesty:
- Recalls using revealing clothing and social media posts to seek validation, thinking it was confidence and self-love ([04:50]).
- Admits, “I thought that was confidence … but I never actually did [feel confident] like, showing my body. … It was a really quick hit … of validation from the world.” (Ally, [06:35])
- Spiraling Validation:
- The fleeting sense of worth from compliments led to wanting “more,” never enough to fill the void—“Once we’ve hit a certain level… the only other option is to, like, more, right? Is to accelerate.” ([07:50])
- Transformation with Christ:
- Realization that identity and confidence couldn’t be filled by attention, but only by Jesus ([09:45]).
- “My body is not mine, it's the Lord's. … I was selfishly using it as a tool to make myself feel better, when all I needed to do was go to his feet to feel better.” (Ally, [11:35])
- “The way that I believe how the Lord wants to use my body today sounds restricting, but... it’s actually the most freedom I’ve ever received in my life.” (Ally, [14:00])
2. Steps Toward Modesty
- A Gradual Process:
- “It was a process… I had to clear out my closet multiple times.” ([16:20])
- God’s grace is emphasized: “It’s okay if you’re not perfect at it. I haven’t been. … [It’s] a journey that only…the Holy Spirit can walk you through.” ([17:05])
- Sacrifice involved: Choosing not to follow feelings or what “felt good” in the moment out of love for God’s standard ([18:10]).
3. Motivation & Heart Posture
- Checking Intentions:
- “Does this honor my dad in heaven? And like, does this honor my future spouse?” (Ally, [21:42])
- Encourages radical honesty: “Please allow the Lord to search your heart... Maybe there is some underlying desire of validation. … That takes humility.” ([22:30])
- On Dressing for Oneself or Others:
- Challenges the notion of dressing for the “female gaze” versus the “male gaze”—in reality, both can be tied to need for validation ([10:30]).
4. Modesty Beyond Clothes: The Eyes & Spiritual Influence
- Modesty and the Eyes:
- “Your eyes… are a gateway to your mind, body and soul.” (Ally, [25:45])
- Discusses seductive behavior with “siren eyes” and how immodesty can be present even when physically covered ([23:11]).
- Quotes Matthew 6:22-23: “The eye is the lamp of the body...” Explains how what we “fix our eyes on” reflects inner condition ([25:45]).
- “You meet a believer who is filled with the Holy Spirit. … I swear I can see Jesus Christ himself through their eyes.” (Ally, [26:30])
- The Jezebel Spirit:
- Explains the Jezebel spirit as symbolic of manipulation and seduction, not limited to women ([28:30]); biblical response is discernment, repentance, and walking in purity.
5. Attracting the Right Relationships
- The Right Attraction:
- The men now attracted to Ally are notably different than when she dressed and behaved for validation ([31:20]).
- “You want to attract a man, then just reflect Jesus… That’s actually what makes you incredibly attractive. … A good man.” (Ally, [33:50])
6. Practical Guidelines for Modest Dressing
- What is Modest?
- “There are hard no’s… If it is accentuating and drawing attention… It’s a hard no.” (Ally, [36:18])
- Examples: “I’m not going to wear a top that shows off my cleavage… Wearing leggings that have the wrenching… to make your butt cheeks more butt cheeky… showing off my entire thighs.” ([36:35])
- Recognizes challenges with activewear and different body types, noting some clothing is more revealing on curvier bodies ([38:15]).
- “There are hard no’s… If it is accentuating and drawing attention… It’s a hard no.” (Ally, [36:18])
- Feminine vs. Baggy:
- Shares early journey with oversized, unisex clothes but later balanced with feminine, non-sexual styles ([39:20]).
- Cultural and trend references: Sofia Richie and some of Hailey Bieber’s styles as modest inspirations; European style as a model for “expensive,” self-respecting outfits ([41:25]).
- Noted, “There actually is something so empowering about, like, not letting strangers know what you look like naked.” ([43:14])
7. The Heart Behind the Clothes
- Intent > Appearance:
- Differentiates between “sexy/lustful” and “feminine/classy” outfits ([45:00]):
- Sexy/Lustful: Short skirts, plunging necklines, sheer/tight materials, outfits designed to draw sexual attention.
- Feminine/Classy: Balanced, elegant, tailored, highlighting presence/softness rather than private areas; “Classy doesn’t mean covered from head to toe; it means intentional instead of provocative.”
- “The difference is focus.”—does the outfit say “look at my body,” or “look at my presence?” ([47:00])
- Differentiates between “sexy/lustful” and “feminine/classy” outfits ([45:00]):
- The Three Second Rule:
- “When you look in the mirror and ask what is the first thing someone will notice? … If your answer is your chest, your butt, your curves, how short it is, it’s leaning towards sexy and lustful. … If your answer is your face, your presence, your softness, your confidence, the overall outfit, like the vibe, then it’s feminine and classy.” ([51:50])
Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments
- “My body is not mine, it’s the Lord’s. … All I needed was actually him to feel better.” (Ally, [11:35])
- “I was living in a reality where I thought that was freedom, but it wasn’t… Now, it’s actually the most freedom I’ve ever received in my life.” (Ally, [14:10])
- “Does this honor my dad in heaven? ... Does this honor my future spouse?” (Ally, [21:42])
- “Ladies, be mindful of what you’re doing with your eyeballs. Are you trying to seduce a man through the screen? ... That is not of the Lord.” (Ally, [24:11])
- “Modesty is coming in. … There is something really empowering about it. I have never felt so confident, and this is the most I’ve covered my body in a really long time.” (Ally, [43:00])
- On balance: “If the top is fitted but the bottom is more relaxed, etc. Elegance is all about harmony.” ([49:05])
- “If the ways that I dressed and the ways that I lived my life was fulfilling enough, I’d still be there. And I’m not. I’m here now because this is the way that God has always intended me to live my life.” (Ally, [54:15])
- “Can we show somebody how cool Jesus is? … Let us love people even with the way that we look at them today.” (Ally, [54:45])
Practical Takeaways & Encouragement
- Modesty is a journey, not an instant transformation—allow space for God’s grace and gradual growth.
- Intentions and heart matter more than following any “one-size-fits-all” dress code. Regularly ask: Who am I trying to please or attract with this outfit or demeanor?
- Modesty isn’t about insecurity or prudishness, but a confident choice to honor God, yourself, and others.
- The right people will be attracted to who you are in Christ, not to your attempts to gain attention through immodesty.
- Reflect Jesus not just in your clothes, but in your eyes and presence—true beauty shines from within.
Timestamps of Key Segments
- [00:58] — Episode intro and setting the stage for modesty discussion
- [04:50] — Personal backstory: seeking validation through immodesty
- [11:35] — Turning point: “My body is not mine, it’s the Lord’s.”
- [16:20] — The ongoing process of learning modesty
- [21:41] — Considering how your choices honor God and future spouse
- [23:11] — The role of “seduction with your eyes”
- [25:45] — Matthew 6:22 and spiritual implications of focus/eyes
- [28:30] — Understanding the Jezebel spirit
- [36:18] — Practical “hard no” guidelines for dressing modestly
- [43:00] — Modesty as a trend and empowerment in covering up
- [45:00] — Visual and heart differences between sexy vs. feminine outfits
- [51:50] — The three-second rule for modesty assessment
- [54:15] — Closing encouragement and call to reflect Jesus
Final Words
Ally closes with an uplifting reminder to walk visibly with Christ, encouraging listeners to stand out through love, presence, and the light of Jesus—“even through our eyes”. She affirms modesty as a source of genuine empowerment, impactful witness, and deep personal peace.
