
Hey y'all ! Welcome to another Friday with CWCOI ! In this week's episode our host, Ally Yost, reads the Word of God in the book of Proverbs. We started to read Proverbs in episode two of season four, "We Have The Key To Life" and we are continuing to...
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Ashley
Foreign.
Ali Yost
Hello, everybody. Welcome to another episode of Christ with Coffee and Ice. I am your host, Ali Yost, and I am so excited to be here with you guys.
Ashley
Hi.
Ali Yost
Happy Friday. Happy Christ with Coffee and Ice. Friday, guys. We have our coffee. Coffee on ice, topped with a little bit of cinnamon. Some cinnamon.
Ashley
Love you. Gorgeous. Scrumptious.
Ali Yost
Amazing. We have our Christ. I'm excited for today's episode because we are going to be reading scripture again, guys. We're gonna read the Bible together. That's, like, one of my favorite things to do with you guys is actually just read the Word of God because like we've said before, sometimes, actually it should be all the time. That's enough. The Word of God should actually be enough for us. That is food to our souls and.
Ashley
Our minds and our hearts.
Ali Yost
And so I would love for you guys to join me. If you have a Bible nearby, I think it would be really great for us to do this together and follow along together. If you don't have a Bible near you, that's okay. You can definitely just listen to the Word of God. But like I said before, in other episodes where we just read Scripture, I would advise and I think it would be the most effective if you're actually reading a Bible. So I know it's easier to just have somebody kind of read it to you and feel like you got your dose of the day. But please don't count this as your quiet time with the Lord. Don't count this as your time of being in your Bible. I, of course, it's an honor that I get to read it to you guys. And, you know, any way we could take the Word of God? I mean, we'll take it. So it's better than nothing.
Ashley
But.
Ali Yost
But also, I really think it would be great for us to just be intentional and. And open it and read it and feel it and look at it and underline it and highlight it and write notes. I just feel like that's the best way to really make sure that the Word of God is embedding in our hearts, because. Which is also Bible. It's very important to not only hear the Word of God and know the Word of God, but to apply it and embed it deep in our hearts. And so I don't know. That's just what I believe is the most effective when it comes to making sure it actually goes into our hearts is like really holding, Tangibly holding the Word of God and being in it. So that's just my little side lecture, I guess. But if you have your Bible with you. I think it'd be great for us to start now. We've read Proverbs before. I don't remember where we left off, to be honest.
Ashley
I'm in the book of Proverbs right.
Ali Yost
Now and I've just been thriving in it. And so I think that it'd be really great if we just continue together. I am in Proverbs 25, so I know that's kind of giving random or in the middle. If you haven't read Proverbs before, definitely read it on your own time, especially if you haven't read anything up until 25. But we will start in Proverbs 25 together right now. Just as another reminder, I do have the NLT translation of the Bible.
Ashley
Also.
Ali Yost
Guys, remember how I was kind of having those issues in my house with flies?
Ashley
So Ashley and I were sick and tired of being sick and tired of these flies.
Ali Yost
Cuz I think I told you guys that we had. I put up some type of like.
Ashley
Bug catcher in the house and then one outside on our porch as well.
Ali Yost
Because that's where they're coming from. And it's like awful. I mean, it's.
Ashley
It's awful.
Ali Yost
It's giving infestation where if we just simply have the back door open for just a few seconds, a fly comes in. This story is going to make sense, I swear. It's about the Lord. But Ashley and I got sick and tired of being sick and tired. And so we prayed together because where two or more are gathered, right? So we prayed together and we said, God, we need you to do something about this. Okay, dad, we love you. This is so distracting. It's like getting in her vlogs. It's getting in her videos where she's like making food videos and there's flies everywhere. It's getting in my podcast, you know, like, it's just a little bit of a distraction. And it's gross. It's like gross. So he said, God, please help us. Seems silly, seems small, but it also is giving. Like when I prayed for the cockroaches that were in my house. You guys remember, I think I told you guys about that when I was living in Nashville, there were cockroaches in my home.
Ashley
And I was so sick and tired.
Ali Yost
Of it and no one was helping me. Exterminators couldn't come. They were canceling. They were procrastinating. So I just prayed and I didn't see any more cockroaches. Right? We did the same thing, just with our flies and it's quiet. There haven't been flies in our house in days since we made that prayer. So nothing is too silly, nothing is too small, nothing is too inconvenient, nothing is too minuscule for the Lord. He cares about everything because he cares about you so deeply. So just know that you can pray about anything, even if it seems something as silly as, like, flies being in your home. Because. Because we have not seen any more flies in our house. That's the power of the Lord. Everything has to answer to the name of Jesus. Even a house fly. Yeah. Isn't that silly? It's true. Even a bow fly, even a house fly has to answer to the name of Jesus. So that was really cool for us to see. And so I don't believe that there's going to be any more guests. Unexpected, uninvited guests on the podcast who have wings.
Ashley
But if an angel wants to show up, that's fine. I'll take that with wings. Yeah.
Ali Yost
Yeah.
Ashley
I would take an angel.
Ali Yost
All right, ladies and gents, let's get into the Bible. The Bible. It's our sword. It's our food.
Ashley
It's the key to life.
Ali Yost
We talked about that the last time.
Ashley
We were in Proverbs. More Proverbs of Solomon.
Ali Yost
Proverbs 25. What reads, these are more Proverbs of.
Ashley
Solomon, collected by the advisors of King Henry Hezekiah of Judah. It is God's privilege to conceal things and the king's privilege to discover them. No one can comprehend the height of heaven, the depth of the earth, or all that goes on in the king's mind.
Ali Yost
Remove the impurities from silver, and sterling.
Ashley
Will be ready for the silversmith. Remove the wicked from the king's court, and his reign will be made secure by justice. Don't demand an audience with the king or push for a place among the great in. Better to wait for an invitation to the head table than to be sent away in public disgrace just because you've seen something. Don't be in a hurry to go to court. For what will you do in the end if your neighbor deals you a shameful defeat? When arguing with your neighbor, don't betray another person's secret. Others may accuse you of gossip, and you will never regain your good reputation.
Ali Yost
Timely advice is lovely, like golden apples.
Ashley
In a silver basket. To one who listens, valid criticism is like a gold earring or other gold jewelry. Trustworthy messengers refresh. Like snow in summer, they receive the spirit of their employer. A person who promises a gift but doesn't give it is like clouds and wind that bring no rain. Patience can persuade a prince and soft speech can break bones. Do you like honey? Don't eat too much or it will make you sick. Don't visit your neighbors too often or you will wear out your welcome. Telling lies about others is as harmful as hitting them with an axe, wounding them with a sword, or shooting them with a sharp arrow. Putting confidence in an unreliable person in times of trouble is like chewing with a broken tooth or walking on a lame foot. Singing cheerful songs to a person with a heavy heart is like taking someone's coat in a cold weather or pouring vinegar in a wound. If your enemies are hungry, give them food to eat. If they are thirsty, give them water to drink. You will heap burning coals of shame on their heads and the Lord will reward you.
Ali Yost
Wait, I want to talk about that verse.
Ashley
That's 25:22, Ashley, and I refer to that one a lot. You will heap burning coals of shame on their heads and the Lord will reward you.
Ali Yost
If your enemies are hungry, give them food.
Ashley
If they are thirsty, give them water to drink. The best way that I interpret that is that even when people treat you cruelly, repay them with love, right?
Ali Yost
It's that verse where it's like, don't repay evil with evil, repay evil with blessings. It's really interesting because when you don't repay evil with evil, meaning if people come at you aggressively, if they're unkind to you, if they're just straight up rude, disrespectful, and you reply in a way that's the same, you're only adding fuel to the fire. I mean, that's kind of expected, actually. Like, if somebody's gonna be rude to you, it's more common for a human being to just be rude back, right? Because in worldly ways and mentalities, the way that we think without the heart of Jesus is, well, of course I'm going to dish back what they're dishing me. Why would I treat them with kindness when they're being unkind to me? It only makes sense to meet them where they're at. And so if they're being rude, I'm a hand it right back to them, right? But it's kind of giving pride, it's kind of giving revenge, and it's just not pure to respond that way, no matter how tempting it is for our flesh to want to lash back out or even simply defend ourselves. Let's say somebody's being really rude and it's unrightful and you're like, I didn't even do anything. And you kind of want to argue, but not in a way to be like, I'm going to be a jerk back, but I'm going to defend myself, because that wasn't right. But the thing that we need to believe and remember as followers of Christ is that we are not our own defenders. The Lord defends us. And so we aren't here to, like, armor up and fight for ourselves. He is our defender. He is the one that fights for us. We are supposed to be still and know that the Lord will fight for us, that he is God. Right. So it's actually kind of an uno reverse. It's a bit of a plot twist and it's very unexpected. When somebody comes at you in an aggressive way and you respond to them in kindness and love, it's going to throw them off. So much so that it actually makes them feel shame. I'm going to give an example.
Ashley
So we went to the movies a.
Ali Yost
Few nights ago and there was this woman that was sitting in front of me, and I actually was fully in the wrong because I didn't realize I was doing this. We were seeing the movie Twisters. It was actually very good. Okay. Side note, I highly suggest the movie. It was, like, so good. We really enjoyed it. I'd say overall, my friends and I think we gave it like a 7 out of 10. It was. It was good. It was entertaining, it was good. It wasn't super predictable, and it wasn't really cheesy or corny. I was locked in the whole time. So we go to see this movie and this woman is sitting in front of me, and I didn't realize I was doing this, but I was kind of playing with my shoe against the back of her seat. But because also there are some intent, like, highly intense moments of this movie. So I was probably doing it kind of anxiously because I was like, so like, oh, my gosh, what's going to happen next? Are they going to live? Is it going to be okay? Because it's like Thriller, right? And so I didn't realize I was doing this with my shoe, but I must. I was kind of probably bumping the back of her seat with my shoe. Anxiously being like, in the movie, right. Kind of playing with my shoe. And she turns around and she was really snappy and not very nice to me about it. And she was like, can you stop? Like, wasn't nice.
Ashley
Obviously, she had lost her patience.
Ali Yost
Maybe she had been biting her tongue. Tongue for a while. I don't know how long I was doing it for. But I'm sure it was just kind of one of those, like, irritating little things that was happening. And she was just hoping that I would stop and didn't say anything. And then she just, you know, I understand. I actually have compassion for that. I'm not even angry at her about it, but I actually just didn't even realize I was doing it. And so she lashes out and does that. And I, like, took a second to even process what was happening and what was said. I was like, did she just yell.
Ashley
At me for doing something to the.
Ali Yost
Back of her seat? Like, I couldn't really hear her either because of the movie. And I wasn't expecting it. I don't know. It just kind of really took me off guard. And everyone who was with her next to her was kind of also like, whoa, like, what? What happened? Right? And so I put my hand on her shoulder, and I was like, was.
Ashley
I kicking the back of your seat?
Ali Yost
And she was like, yes, my seat. You are. You were kicking my seat. And I was like, I am so sorry.
Ashley
Oh, my gosh.
Ali Yost
I had no idea that I was doing that. And I, like, kind of rubbed her shoulder in a way that was loving. I wasn't invading her space, but I was definitely being like, oh, my gosh. Like, I love you, you know? And I was like, I am so sorry. I did not mean to disrupt you in your experience. Like, that's awful. I'm sorry. Like, genuinely, from the bottom of my. Of my heart was apologizing to this woman with such sincerity that I could tell on her. Like, she, guys, this is what the love of Christ does to people. It doesn't matter how bitter, how angry, how agitated, how anxious. Like, this is what the love of Christ does. Her complete demeanor and her tone in her. In her voice and everything completely changed. And she was like, oh, it's okay. The love of Christ, the love of Jesus does that. Like, if I had fought back and been like, I'm sorry. I didn't even realize I was doing it. Like, calm down. Oh, my gosh. It's not that deep. It's like, watch the movie. I don't know if I responded in any other way, it wouldn't have been productive. But isn't it interesting that the minute that we allow the Lord to just speak love through us and use us as a vessel, there is no more fight there. There is no more anger. Like, it keeps burning coals of shame on their heads? I'm sure in that second she was like, oh, wait, she's sweet. Oh, I didn't mean to lash out like that. She's actually kind. She didn't mean it. Like, maybe in her head she was making up this narrative, like these kids sitting behind me, like, so whatever. And I really believe that because of the way that I loved her. I didn't get defensive. I didn't feel like I had to fight. I didn't feel like I had to defend myself. And like, I didn't have an ego, I didn't have pride. I said, I'm sorry, I was wrong. I love you. Oh my gosh, I'm so sorry.
Ashley
And the Lord will reward you.
Ali Yost
I mean, that's not why I did it. I just really wanted to love her. But the reward, low key is like, there's no fight, there's no fight. And the Lord is so proud of us. In moments like that, when we decide to love people who aren't loving to us in the first place, God sees that. And let's say that that woman still didn't reply to me with love and kind of huffed and puffed and rolled her eyes. And that doesn't even matter because the Lord saw the way that I loved her. And that's what he asked. That's the only thing he really asks us to do in life. That's the only thing he ever asks us to do, is to love one another. So I love that verse.
Ashley
If your enemies are hungry, give them food to eat.
Ali Yost
That woman needed love, so I gave it to her. And it was actually really sweet. I felt like we could walk down the besties after that moment, you know? I don't know. I think it's fun. I think being a follower of the Lord, it's. It's not discouraging when people are unkind anymore. I've really gotten to that point. It wasn't always like this. For me, it wasn't. So if you can't relate to this, I have compassion for that. And I know that one day you will get here if you don't feel like you're here yet. But I believe now it doesn't really.
Ashley
Offend me when people aren't kind to me.
Ali Yost
I mean, did we talk about this recently? I don't think of myself anymore. When people are rude to us, it's easy for us to get discouraged and it's easy for us to get our feelings hurt because we immediately look at ourselves after that interaction. Right? You have an interaction with somebody, they are unbelievably unkind to you. They're rude to You. You didn't deserve it. The only reason in that situation that you could ever feel down bad and feel sad and want to cry and feel discouraged is because you're looking at yourself. That's just the truth. Like, you're pitying yourself and you're feeling bad for yourself. Am I saying that to invalidate anyone's feelings? No, because it's real. It's real. Like, if somebody's treating you a certain way and you don't feel like you deserve it, it's very real to have your feelings hurt and feel like you want to cry. Okay, I've been there. I have cried because strangers have been rude to me, you know? So I don't say that to invalidate anybody. But I do say it in a way where it's kind of giving superpower, though, if you don't want to feel like that anymore and you don't want to feel discouraged by the way that strangers could treat you, even if you know that you don't deserve it.
Ashley
The superpower loophole is not looking at yourself, is looking at them and having.
Ali Yost
A passion for them. I know it's another Uno reverse.
Ashley
But it's what the Lord does.
Ali Yost
Jesus doesn't look at himself ever. Actually, he doesn't deserve a lot of things, and he never looks at himself. I'm crying again.
Ashley
It's true.
Ali Yost
There are a lot of things that.
Ashley
The Lord doesn't deserve.
Ali Yost
Doesn't deserve to be neglected, he doesn't.
Ashley
Deserve to be ignored. He doesn't deserve to be mocked, and he doesn't deserve to be used as a curse word. Like, there's, the Lord just doesn't deserve.
Ali Yost
A lot of things, even today. And yet he still doesn't look at himself. He looks at others and he has compassion for them. And he says, forgive them, Father, for they don't know. And so when people are unkind to me, even that woman in the theater.
Ashley
When she was not nice to me.
Ali Yost
I didn't look at myself. I looked at her and I had compassion for her. And I think the ultimate wisdom that we only can get from the Lord is being able to look at people who are hurting and seeing the pain that they must be feeling to act that way. And I don't say that in a, wow, well, she must be miserable. I say that with love in my heart. Like, oh, my gosh, you have been so hurt.
Ashley
You have been so betrayed by the world. You have been so hurt that this is how you treat people.
Ali Yost
You know what I mean? It's not about us.
Ashley
At all.
Ali Yost
And it's actually about that person, which is why we need to be praying for people like that. Not like, oh, I'm praying for her. Like, no, I'm actually.
Ashley
I'm actually praying for you.
Ali Yost
Because that person doesn't have peace.
Ashley
They're not happy. They're not truly happy. Maybe they think they are, but if.
Ali Yost
They'Re treating people like that, there's a.
Ashley
Good chance that they're not. They don't have peace. They don't sleep well at night. They feel alone, they feel anxious, they feel angry. There's no peace in their heart. Anybody who has true peace in their.
Ali Yost
Heart would never act like that. You know, my response to her was giving peace. I had peace. I said, I'm so sorry. I'm not gonna fight back.
Ashley
If you have peace, you're not gonna fight.
Ali Yost
And it's the people who are constantly ready to fight that clearly don't reflect peace. They don't have peace, and they're ready to fight all the time. Does that make sense?
Ashley
So the best loophole to not being.
Ali Yost
Hurt, not being offended, is literally not looking at yourself. Because if you know who you are.
Ashley
And the Lord knows who you are.
Ali Yost
And you know that you didn't deserve that, that's all that matters. And the other thing that matters is how you treat them in response. And if that didn't matter, the Lord wouldn't make that so clear in Scripture of how we're supposed to treat our enemies, how we're supposed to treat evil. Right. How are we supposed to respond to evil? With blessings. If that wasn't important, the Lord wouldn't have even bothered to put that in the Bible. It's actually also very important in the way that we respond to evil, how we respond to people who are unkind to us. Even if no one else sees it, it's not for anyone else to see.
Ashley
It's for the Lord.
Ali Yost
It's to say, okay, God, I know what to do in this situation because you've taught me and you showed me. So I'm going to apply what you've taught me to real life, and I'm.
Ashley
Going to treat this person with love.
Ali Yost
And I'm going to repay them with blessings, and I'm going to pray for them. Because I know you care about the way that I walk. Not just the way I talk, not just the way that I. I read the Bible, but the way that I walk as well.
Ashley
All right, y', all, moving on little side tangent. Okay. 25:23. As surely as a north wind Brings rain, so a gossiping tongue causes anger. It's better to live alone in the corner of an attic than with a quarrelsome wife. A lovely home.
Ali Yost
Good news from far away is like.
Ashley
Cold water to the thirsty.
Ali Yost
Oh, guys, that's good.
Ashley
Good news from far away is like cold water to the thirsty. I think about the Bible. Good news for keeping it far away from people. That's like cold water to the thirsty. If the godly give in to the wicked, it's like polluting a fountain or muddying a spring. It's not good to eat too much honey and it's not good to seek honors for yourself. A person without self control is like a city with broken down walls. Now we're in Proverbs 26. Honor is no more associated with fools than snow with summer or rain with harvest. Like a fluttering sparrow or a darting swallow, an undeserved curse will not land on its intended victim. Guide a horse with a whip, a donkey with a brittle, and a fool with a rod to his back. Be sure to answer the foolish arguments of fools or they will become wise in their own estimation. Trusting a fool to convey a message is like cutting off one's feet or drinking poison. A proverb in the mouth of a fool is as useless as a paralyzed leg. Honoring a fool is as foolish as tying a stone to a slingshot. A proverb in the mouth of a fool is like a thorny branch brandished by a drunk. An employer who hires a fool or a bystander is like an arker who shoots at random. As a dog returns to its vomit, so a fool repeats his foolishness. There is more hope for fools than for people who think they are wise.
Ali Yost
The lazy person claims there's a lion on the road. Yes, I'm sure there's a lion out there.
Ashley
As a door swings back and forth on its hinges, so the lazy person turns over in bed. Lazy people take food in their hand but don't even lift it to their mouth. Lazy people consider themselves smarter than seven wise counselors.
Ali Yost
Interfering in someone else's argument is as.
Ashley
Foolish as yanking a dog's ear. Just as damaging as a madman shooting a deadly weapon is someone who lies to a friend and then says, I was only joking. Fire goes out without wood and quarrels disappear when gossips stop. A quarrelsome person starts fights as easily as hot embers. Light charcoal or fire lights wood. Rumors are dainty morsels that sink deep into one's heart. Smooth words may hide a wicked heart. Just as a pretty glaze covers a Clay pot. People may cover their hatred with pleasant words, but they're deceiving you. They pretend to be kind, but don't believe them. Their hearts are full of many evils. While their hatred may be concealed by trickery, their wrongdoing will be exposed in public. If you set a trap for others, you will get caught in it yourself. If you roll a boulder down on others, it will crush you instead. A lying tongue hates its victims, and flattering words cause ruin. Proverbs 27. Now don't brag about tomorrow, since you don't know what the day will bring. Let someone else praise you, not your own mouth, a stranger. Nod your own lips. A stone is heavy and sand is weighty, but the resentment caused by a fool is even heavier. Anger is cruel and wrath is like a flood, but jealousy is even more dangerous. An open rebuke is better than hidden love. Wounds from a sincere friend are better than many kisses from the enemy. Whoa. A person who is full refuses honey. But even bitter food tastes sweet to the hungry. Whoa.
Ali Yost
I love that.
Ashley
Wait, can we read that one more time? Y' all, listen to this.
Ali Yost
Think about it. Marinate with that.
Ashley
Interpret that. A person who is full refuses even honey because they're full. It don't matter how sweet it is. They're like Ran's full. But even bitter food tastes sweet to the hungry. Like, if they are so hungry, they will eat even bitter food. The way that I think of this, I think this can be interpreted in.
Ali Yost
A few different ways, which is what.
Ashley
Makes scripture so beautiful.
Ali Yost
But the thing that it makes me think about is, like, the Lord, the word of God, the presence of the spirit, Jesus, okay? If we are full spiritually, we don't need anything else. It doesn't matter how sweet it could be honey. And we're like, nomful. I'm full. I'm full of the Spirit. I'm full of the Lord. I'm satisfied. I literally am stuffed. Like, I. I can't eat anything else. Spiritually, we are full, right? When we have a relationship with the Lord, when we have the Holy Spirit dwelling inside of us, when we've spent our time in Scripture, when we've been in the. In the secret place with the Lord, right?
Ashley
But even bitter food tastes sweet to the hungry.
Ali Yost
So I just think about people, maybe even versions of ourselves, that didn't know the Lord. And so we're turning to things that are probably so bitter, but it doesn't matter because we were literally that starving that even that tasted sweet to us because we were not full. We were trying to fill this void through other things. It could be anything in the world. It could have been anything, okay? Anything that we do, that we try to do to fill that void in our hearts that is only supposed to be filled by the Lord is even.
Ashley
Bitter food tastes sweet to the hungry. We were hungry, we were starving.
Ali Yost
And we were willing to try to use anything to fill that void. When if we had just gone straight.
Ashley
To the thing that was meant to.
Ali Yost
Fill that space in our heart, which was the Lord, we would have been full. We would have refused even honey. We would have been like, oh, girl, I'm good.
Ashley
A person who is full refuses honey. But even bitter foods taste sweet to the hungry. They're desperate. When we don't have Jesus, we are desperate. We will try anything to try to fill that void. A person who strays from home is like a bird that strays from its nest. And that makes me think of when we stray away from the Lord. He is our home. Jesus is our home. God is our home.
Ali Yost
Being in relation with our Heavenly Father is our home. And so anyone who strays away from.
Ashley
Their home is like a bird that strays from its nest.
Ali Yost
They stray away from their home safety.
Ashley
What they're meant for, what they were made to be. That bird was made to be with its nest in its home, not stuck.
Ali Yost
In a mall somewhere. I don't know. Think of those birds that get stuck in a mall and they're like flying around. All that's not what birds were made for. Birds were made to be near their nests, their home, their families.
Ashley
The heartfelt counsel of a friend is as sweet as perfume and incense. Never abandon a friend, either yours or your father's. When disaster strikes, you won't have to ask your brother for assistance.
Ali Yost
It's better to go to a neighbor.
Ashley
Than to a brother who lives far away. Be wise, my child, and make my heart glad. Then I will be able to answer my critics. A prudent person foresees danger and takes precautions. The simpleton goes blindly on and suffers the consequences. Get security from someone who guarantees a stranger's debt, but get a deposit if he does it. For foreigners, a loud and cheerful greeting early in the morning will be taken as a curse. A quarrelsome wife is as annoying as a constant dripping on a rainy day. Stopping her complaints is like trying to stop the wind or trying to hold something with greased hands. As iron sharpens iron, so a friend sharpens a friend. As workers who tend a fig tree are allowed to eat the fruit so workers who protect their employers interests will be rewarded.
Ali Yost
As a face is reflected in water.
Ashley
So the heart reflects the real person. So the heart reflects the real person, their heart.
Ali Yost
Wow.
Ashley
Just as death and destruction are never satisfied, so human desire is never satisfied. Fire tests the purity of silver and gold. But a person is tested by being praised.
Ali Yost
I really like that. I feel like the way I, I interpret that is. So fire tests the purity of silver and gold, right?
Ashley
Like how pure it is.
Ali Yost
Like if it's pure silver, pure gold, how much of it is completely that? But a person is tested by being praised. Like, if I were to think of myself with how much people praise what I do online and stuff, I feel like that could be the fire that tests my purity. Like, am I going to let that get to my head and I'm going to start looking at myself as my own God or be impressed with my own wisdom? Or am I going to continue to give glory to God? A person is tested by being praised.
Ashley
That's really good.
Ali Yost
Like, the best way to be tested.
Ashley
In our purity and our humility is actually the way that we react when we're being praised by others.
Ali Yost
Like, are you like high and mighty and ego and pride and look at me, I'm so great. Or are you like, glory to God. It is because of the Lord that I am this way. There's no other reason.
Ashley
Thank you.
Ali Yost
I'm grateful. I love to work hard for the kingdom, but thank you, Jesus. He's the one that's given me all of this. The knowledge, the wisdom, the work ethic, the drive, the motivation, the inspiration, the visions, the dreams.
Ashley
Like he, he is the reason. So fire tests the purity of silver.
Ali Yost
And gold, but a person is tested by being praised. I love that you cannot separate fools from their foolishness, even though you grind.
Ashley
Them like grain with mortar and pestle.
Ali Yost
I really don't know what that means. I'm gonna keep it a buck with you guys. At some parts of the Bible, I still don't really understand. I don't know what mortar and pestle are. But if I were to try to break this down to the best of my ability, I would imagine that if a fool insists on being foolish, like, they just be a fool and they're like not trying to not be one. I feel like this is giving. The girlfriend who tries to convince their man. Sorry if I'm calling someone out. I just know that this exists. I love you. I love you. But it's giving. Like the girlfriend that drags the boyfriend to church to try to get him to believe in the Lord. Like, you have so much faith and you really, so deeply want him to. But if he doesn't want to know the Lord, if he's not the one leading the relationship, if he's not the one bringing you to church, baby, it doesn't matter how much you grind them like grain in a mortar and pestle, girl. You cannot separate a fool from their foolishness. Especially if they insist on being one, if they don't want to. Not because I was a fool. I was a fool, and I was.
Ashley
Foolish for a while.
Ali Yost
And there was a point in my life where you could not separate the foolishness from me being a fool because I was con. I was just. I was content being one. I was content living life without the Lord and not having an intimate relationship with him. I just. I was just like, whatever, okay? I also was content until I wasn't anymore. Until I was sick of my own foolishness, Until I was sick of being a dog that was returning to its own vomit. So a fool repeats his foolishness, right? We go back to Proverbs 25:11 as a dog returns to its vomit. I was sick of returning to my own vomit, but it was. It was the dog, it was me who had to make the decision of saying, no. I'm actually sick of returning back to my foolishness. I'm sick of being a fool. This kind of goes back to the episode that we filmed last week, y', all, where we can't force anyone into their faith. Like, they have to make that choice themselves, and they have to want it themselves. And so that's kind of how I'm interpreting it. Hopefully, that gently convicts somebody, if you feel like that's what you're doing. But you cannot separate fools from their foolishness. Only the Lord can do that. And it can only be initiated by somebody who's like, okay, I'm done being a fool. Like, I don't want to do this anymore. The invitation to the Lord, right? Because the Lord is always knocking at the door. It's just a matter of us actually unlocking it and opening the door and being like, okay, God, I. I do need you, you know? But you cannot separate fools from their foolishness. That's not something that we can actually physically do at all. Dang, y', all, that's fire Bible.
Ashley
Know the state of your flocks and put your heart into caring for your herd.
Ali Yost
For riches don't last forever, and the.
Ashley
Crown might not be passed to the next generation. After the hay has harvested and the New crop appears, and the mountain grasses are gathered in. Your sheep will provide wool for clothing, and your goats will provide the price of a field. And you will have enough goat's milk for yourself, your family, and your servant girls. Proverbs 20:8.
Ali Yost
The wicked run away when no one is chasing them. But the godly are as bold as lions. That's so batty. I love that.
Ashley
Oh, my gosh.
Ali Yost
Can we read that one more time? The wicked run away when no one is literally chasing them. Fools being foolish. Girl, what are you talking about? Ain't nobody behind you. But the godly are as bold as lions. That's us, guys. Yeah, you do have it inside of you to be as bold as a lion. Because of the Holy Spirit. Because the lion himself, the lion and the lamb. Yeah, because of Jesus Christ. Whoa. But the godly are as bold as lions. That's amazing.
Ashley
When there is moral rot within a nation, its government topples easily.
Ali Yost
But wise and knowledgeable leaders bring stability.
Ashley
A poor person who oppresses the poor is like a pounding rain that destroys the crops. To reject the law is to praise the wicked. To obey the law is to fight them.
Ali Yost
Talking about the law? We're talking about the Bible, you guys.
Ashley
To reject the law, to reject the.
Ali Yost
Word of God is to praise the wicked. Girl, you might as well be out there praising the world, living like the world. If you're rejecting the Lord and the word of God, you might as well.
Ashley
Go praise the wicked. But to obey the law is to fight them.
Ali Yost
What was I doing in that movie theater? What was I doing in that movie theater? I was obeying the law. I said, okay, dad, I'm gonna do what you tell me to do. I'm gonna. I'm gonna do exactly how you're telling me to act in a situation like this. And I'm going to repay evil with blessings. And so with that, I actually fought. I fought them with my kindness, with the love of Christ in my heart and practicing. It was obeying the law. I obeyed what my dad said, and I trusted him enough to say, okay.
Ashley
God, I'm gonna respond like, this is actually to fight them, to fight the wicked by. And the wicked is the demonic.
Ali Yost
So whatever spirit was over that poor woman.
Ashley
Spirit of agitation, a spirit of irritation, a spirit of anger.
Ali Yost
I fought those spirits, but with my love. That's so cool. This ain't a war against flesh and blood, baby. This is a war against the demonic, the spirit. I wasn't fighting that poor woman. That's another thing. We need to keep in mind, y', all, is when people be acting like this, we got to look straight at the spirits that are operating through them or hovering over them. Look them in the eye. Evil people don't understand justice.
Ashley
But those who follow the Lord understand completely.
Ali Yost
Better to be poor and honest than.
Ashley
To be dishonest and rich. Young people who obey the law are wise. Those with wild friends bring shame to their parents.
Ali Yost
Income from charging high interest rates will end up in the pocket of someone.
Ashley
Who is kind to the poor. God detests the prayers of a person who ignores the law. Those who lead good people along an evil path will fall into their own trap. But the honest will inherit good things. Rich people may think they are wise, but the poor person with discernment can see right through them. The power of discernment, y', all, which we get, that's a fruit of the Spirit.
Ali Yost
We get that from the Holy Spirit.
Ashley
We get that from the Lord. A poor person with discernment can see right through them. It doesn't matter the status of the person. They didn't need to be rich to see right through them. They just needed to be rich in the spirit.
Ali Yost
A poor person with discernment can see right through the rich person who thinks they're wise. Oh, that's so good. Oh, that's so good. That's real wealth vibe. When the godly succeed, everyone is glad. When the wicked take charge, people go into hiding.
Ashley
People who conceal their sins will not prosper. But if they confess and turn from them, they will receive mercy. Blessed are those who fear to do wrong. But the stubborn are headed for serious trouble. A wicked ruler is as dangerous to the poor as a roaring lion or an attacking bear. A ruler with no understanding will oppress his people. But one who hates corruption will have a long life.
Ali Yost
A murderer's tormented conscience will drive him.
Ashley
Into the grave, don't protect him.
Ali Yost
The blameless will be rescued from harm.
Ashley
But the crooked will be suddenly destroyed. A hard worker has plenty of food, but a person who chases fantasies ends up in poverty.
Ali Yost
This is like to the people who.
Ashley
Actually do something about their dreams versus people who just fantasize and talk the talk and like dream about the dreams, but they don't do anything to like.
Ali Yost
Actually work hard or just bring it to life, right? A hard worker has plenty of food, but a person who chases fantasies end up in poverty. Like, if you're just going to dream about it and you're not willing to work for it, obviously you're going to end up in poverty. Meaning, like there's there's nothing that's going to happen. But somebody who works hard has plenty of food because they're not afraid to work. You know, I think the one thing that we need to remember in anything is that it's always good to have faith. It's good to have dreams, it's good to have visions and have plans. But the Lord can't really do anything if we are also not willing to do anything. There are things that he calls us to lean back on and not do anything about. Like, there are some things that are coming to my mind where maybe I want to try to do things about them, but it's giving. This is God's job. Like, when it comes to trying to make certain things happen, you know, it's like, ally, stop trying to take on the role of the Lord. Sit back and let him be dad. There are things in life where we aren't supposed to act on it, but there are things that the Lord is asking me to do. Like even me simply sitting down and recording for this podcast. It's like, I could have dreamt about the pod. I could have been like, wow, what a great thing, Lord, do it. Make it happen. But if I wasn't willing to get up and put it to show, right, put the show on.
Ashley
Here I am.
Ali Yost
I would be as good as somebody who chases fantasies and ends up in poverty, meaning it doesn't happen. The Lord can only do so much with people who are not willing to do anything. And so, you know, even proverbs, I mean, they went in, Solomon went in on even just talking about lazy people and a swinging door, right, Is as good. It's as good as somebody who tosses and turns in bed and just sleeps all day. You know, the Lord does need us to be willing to do and work. You know, we're a team with the Lord. We can't be God. But God does need us to be cooperative and he needs us to be willing to work. So I really love that the trustworthy.
Ashley
Person will get a rich reward. But a person who wants quick riches will get into trouble. Showing partiality is never good. Yet some will do wrong for a mere piece of bread. That makes me think of Judas. Greedy people try to get rich quick, quick, but don't realize they're headed for poverty in the end. People appreciate honest criticism far more than flattery. Anyone who steals from his father and mother and says, what's wrong with that? Is no better than a murderer. Greed causes fighting. Trusting the Lord leads to prosperity. Those who trust their own Insight are foolish.
Ali Yost
But anyone who walks in wisdom is safe, AKA the Lord. We're not leaning on our own understanding. We don't trust our own insight.
Ashley
That's foolish.
Ali Yost
But anyone who walks in wisdom is safe.
Ashley
Those who close their eyes to poverty will be cursed. When the wicked take charge, people go into hiding. When the wicked meet disaster, the godly flourish.
Ali Yost
Now we're in Proverbs 29.
Ashley
Whoever stubbornly refuses to accept criticism will suddenly be destroyed beyond recovery.
Ali Yost
When the godly are in authority, the.
Ashley
People rejoice, but when the wicked are in power, they groan.
Ali Yost
I want to go back. I really like whoever stubbornly refuses to accept criticism. I just think that sometimes we can take that as like criticism from the world or like from our enemies. I don't want anyone to think that. If you didn't think that, great. But that's not what I believe the Lord means with this. I think he just means that if you're not humble enough to take criticism, meaning if you're not humble enough and criticism from people who are trustworthy, you're not just going to take criticism from anybody. You're going to take criticism from people who are also godly, who are in your community, who know Jesus, who you trust. Right. Who truly uplift you and back it up with Scripture. You know, there are things that I, and Ashley has said this, like she's openly said this, so I could say this, but there are things that I've even said to ashes that I feel are from the Lord and it might not feel the best. She said some things to me too, where we're not, you know, there's no flattery.
Ashley
Right.
Ali Yost
It goes back to Proverbs 28:23. It says in the end people appreciate honest criticism far more than flattery, like sugar coating things or you know, helping somebody's ego in that moment rather than giving honest criticism and saying, actually, I really believe the Lord wants you to know this. Like this is the truth. And, and it might kind of hurt a little, like sting.
Ashley
Sometimes the truth stings a little bit.
Ali Yost
But if it's not ultimately like uplifting you and encouraging you and you don't feel encouraged by the Lord. Correction is really important. And we even talked about that when we were talking about prophecy, Right? Like sometimes even in prophecy, the hard truth can be told to us and it doesn't always feel the best, but ultimately at the end of the conversation it should be encouraging and it shouldn't make you feel awful. Right? So in the end, people do appreciate honest criticism. But flattery Flattery is like you're not helping anyone, especially if you love the person. And so whoever stubbornly refuses to accept criticism, though it's giving. You have too much of an ego. Maybe there's a little bit of pride that's in the way, that's allowing you to be critiqued ultimately by the Lord. He guides us, though it's his shepherding. You know what? We're not going to be perfect, and we're going to get things wrong and we're going to think that we're right, but maybe we're not. And so there's that humbling factor of being a child of God. We are children. He is our father. You know, you think about those roles. You think of what a child is to their father. Father knows best, Father knows more. Father's more experienced, he's aged, he's been through a lot more. So when we identify proudly as children of God, we need to realize that we are his children, though. So with that comes, you know, criticism and correction in a loving way. It may kind of sting at first, but that is something that we're supposed to embrace and love, actually, and rejoice in. Oh, my gosh, what better person to be corrected by than the Lord? You know? And so if we're not willing to take criticism, we will suddenly be destroyed beyond recovery. Meaning if you are going to continue to have ego or, or pride in the way we are, only on the route of destruction, we. We won't be able to prosper. It's through the correction of the love of the Father that keeps us on the right path. And if we refuse that, we're not allowing ourselves to grow spiritually or just flourish, be blessed. You know, the man who loves wisdom brings joy to his father, but if he hangs around with prostitutes, his wealth is wasted. Okay, do we love that? The man who loves wisdom brings joy to his father. So if we're constantly seeking his wisdom and we love it and we want the correction, we're okay with being humbled, we're okay with being wrong. If it means that we are gaining wisdom from our Lord, that actually brings joy to our Father. Like, he's so excited when we're willing to take that.
Ashley
A just king gives stability to his nation, but one who demands bribes destroys it.
Ali Yost
To flatter friends is to lay a.
Ashley
Trap for their feet. Evil people are trapped by sin, but the righteous escape shouting for joy.
Ali Yost
The godly care about the rights of.
Ashley
The poor, the wicked don't care at all. The bloodthirsty hate, blameless people but the upright seek to help them.
Ali Yost
Oh, guys, this. Okay, this is a good one.
Ashley
Fools vent their anger, but the wise quietly hold it back. If a ruler pays attention to liars, all his advisors will be wicked. The poor and the oppressor have this in common. The Lord gives sight to the eyes of both. If a king judges the poor fairly, his throne will last forever. To discipline a child produces wisdom. But a mother is disgraced by an undisciplined child.
Ali Yost
When the wicked are in authority, sin flourishes.
Ashley
But the godly will live to see their downfall. Discipline your children and they will give you peace of mind and will make your heart glad. When people do not accept divine guidance, they run wild. But whoever obeys the law is joyful. Words alone will not discipline a servant. The words may be understood, but they are not heeded. There is more hope for a fool than for someone who speaks without thinking. A servant pampered from childhood will become a rebel. An angry person starts fights. A hot tempered person commits all kinds of sin.
Ali Yost
Pride ends in humiliation, while humility brings honor. Let's read that again, guys. That's good.
Ashley
That ties into what we were just saying.
Ali Yost
Pride ends in humiliation, while humility brings honor. It's giving. No matter what, we will be humbled.
Ashley
So it's better to just be humble.
Ali Yost
From the beginning because that's what brings honor. Rather than being prideful and being humiliated. Because you will be humbled, pride will be humbled. But with humility brings honor. When we're already humble. If you assist a thief, you only hurt yourself.
Ashley
You are sworn to tell the truth, but you dare not testify. Fearing people is a dangerous trap. But trusting the Lord means safety. Many seek the ruler's favor. But justice comes from the Lord. The righteous despise the unjust. The wicked despise the godly. Now we're in Proverbs 30.
Ali Yost
I really want to try to get to Proverbs 31.
Ashley
Yeah, we'll just finish Proverbs. We're almost there. Okay. Proverbs 30. The sayings of a Girl Son of Jekyll contains this message. I. I botched both of those names. Forgive me, guys, okay? I am weary, O God. I am weary and worn out, O God. I am too stupid to be human and I lack common sense. I have not mastered human wisdom, nor do I know the Holy One. Who but God goes up to heaven and comes back down? Who holds the wind in his fists? Who wraps up the oceans in his cloak? Who has created the whole wide world? What is his name and His Son's name. Tell me if you know. Every word of God proves true. He is a shield to all who come to him for protection. Do not add to his words, or he may rebuke you and expose you as a liar. O God, I beg two favors from you. Let me have them before I die. First, help me never to tell a lie. Second, give me neither poverty nor riches. Give me just enough to satisfy my needs. For if I grow rich, I may deny you and say, who is the Lord? And if I'm too poor, I may steal and thus insult God's holy name. Never slander a worker to the employer or the person will curse you and you will pay for it. Some people curse their father and do not thank their mother. They are pure in their own eyes, but they are filthy and unwashed. They look proudly around, casting disdainful glances. They have teeth like swords and fangs like knives. They devour the poor from the earth and the needy. From among humanity, the leech has two suckers that cry out More. More.
Ali Yost
There are three things that are never satisfied.
Ashley
No.
Ali Yost
4 that never say enough. The grave. The barren womb.
Ashley
The thirsty desert.
Ali Yost
The blazing fire. The eye that mocks a father and.
Ashley
Despises a mother's instructions will be plucked out by ravens of the valley and eaten by vultures. There are three things that amaze me. No.
Ali Yost
Four things that I don't understand.
Ashley
How an eagle glides through the sky. How a snake slithers on a rock. How a ship navigates the ocean. How man loves a woman. An adulterous woman consumes a mare, then wipes her mouth and says, what's wrong with that? There are three things that make the earth tremble. No. 4 it cannot endure. A slave who becomes a king. An overbearing fool who prospers. A bitter woman who finally gets a husband. A servant girl who supplants her mistress.
Ali Yost
There are four things on earth that.
Ashley
Are small but unusually wise.
Ali Yost
Ants.
Ashley
They aren't strong, but they store up food all summer. Hyraxes. They aren't powerful, but they make their homes among the rocks. Locusts. They have no king, but they march in formation. Lizards. They are easy to catch, but they are found even in kings palaces. There are three things that walk with stately stride. No. 4 that strut about. The lion, king of animals who won't turn aside for anything. The strutting rooster. The male goat. A king as he leads his army. If you have been a fool by being proud or plotting evil, cover your mouth in shame. As the beating of cream yields butter and striking the nose causes bleeding, so stirring up anger causes quarrels. And now we're in Proverbs 31. The saying of King Lemuel contains this message which his mother taught. O my son. O son of my womb, O son of my vows. Do not waste your strength on women, on those who ruin kings. It is not for kings, o Lemuel, to guzzle wine. Rulers should not crave alcohol, for if they drink, they may forget the law and and not give justice to the oppressed. Alcohol is for the dying and wine for those in bitter distress. Let them drink to forget their poverty and remember their troubles no more. Speak up for those who cannot speak for themselves. Ensure justice for those being crushed. Yes, speak up for the poor and helpless and see that they get justice. A wife of noble character. Who can find a virtuous and capable wife? She is more precious than rubies. Her husband can trust her, and she will greatly enrich his life. She brings him good, not harm, all the days of her life. She finds wool and flax and busily spins it. She is like a merchant's ship, bringing her food from afar. She gets up before dawn to prepare breakfast for her household and plan the day's work for her servant girls. She goes to inspect a field and buys it with her earnings. She plants a vineyard. She is energetic and strong, a hard worker. She makes sure her dealings are profitable. Her lamp burns late into the night. Her hands are busy spinning thread, her fingers twisting fiber. She extends a helping hand to the port and opens her arms to the needy. She has no fear of winter for her household, for everyone has warm clothes. She makes her own bedspreads. She dresses in fine linen and purple gowns. Her husband is well known in the city gates where he sits with the other civic leaders. She makes belted linen garments and sashes to sell to the merchants. She is clothed with strength and dignity, and she lacks without fear of the future.
Ali Yost
When she speaks, her words are wise.
Ashley
And she gives instructions with kindness. She carefully watches everything in her household.
Ali Yost
And suffers nothing from laziness.
Ashley
Her children stand and bless her. Her husband praises her.
Ali Yost
There are many virtuous and capable women.
Ashley
In the world, but you surpass them all. Charm is deceptive, and beauty does not last. But a woman who fears the Lord will be greatly praised. Reward her for all she has done. Let her deeds publicly declare her praise.
Ali Yost
All right, y'.
Ashley
All.
Ali Yost
Well, that is Proverbs 25:31.
Ashley
I hope that you guys enjoyed this episode.
Ali Yost
I did.
Ashley
I love Proverbs, y'. All. It's so good.
Ali Yost
If you ever want to learn something. Proverbs.
Ashley
Oh my gosh.
Ali Yost
That was so good.
Ashley
Thank you guys for joining with me.
Ali Yost
And I hope it was fruitful. I love you guys. I'm so proud of you.
Ashley
Thank you for being here.
Ali Yost
Thank you for loving the podcast. Also, can we do something cool today? Can we do something cool? Can we show somebody how cool Jesus is?
Ashley
Let's show someone the love of Jesus.
Ali Yost
Let's show somebody maybe a few things.
Ashley
We even learned today.
Ali Yost
I love you guys. Have a blessed weekend and have a great rest of your week and I.
Ashley
Will see you next Friday. Bye.
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Host: Ally Yost (with guest, Ashley)
Episode: Vengeance Is the Lord’s
Date: September 13, 2024
This episode centers on the foundational Christian principle that “vengeance is the Lord’s,” highlighting what it means to live with compassion, humility, and trust in God’s justice rather than taking matters into one's own hands. The hosts, Ally and Ashley, read extensively from Proverbs (NLT translation, Proverbs 25–31), weaving together Scripture, real-life anecdotes, and honest discussion about dealing with adversity, responding in love, and developing spiritual maturity. The episode encourages listeners to internalize God’s Word and lean on Him in daily struggles, big or small.
In their signature friendly, open-hearted style, Ally and Ashley invite listeners to not only ingest Scripture but also embody it. They remind us that handling conflict and unkindness with Christlike love is both a discipline and a gift—one which God honors and uses to reach others. The essence of this episode is summed up in a challenge to “show someone the love of Jesus,” inspired by the ancient wisdom of Proverbs and the everyday faithfulness of walking with Christ.
For those who missed the episode:
This conversation is a practical, honest deep-dive into living out Proverbs in day-to-day situations. It’s uplifting, vulnerable, and packed with wisdom for anyone seeking to respond to life’s obstacles with grace, humility, and the confidence that “vengeance is the Lord’s.”