Church History Matters Podcast Episode 112 Summary: "D&C 29 - CFM - The End of the World as We Know It?"
Release Date: March 26, 2025
Hosts: Scott and Casey from Scripture Central
1. Introduction to Doctrine and Covenants Section 29
In this episode, Scott and Casey delve into Doctrine and Covenants (D&C) Section 29, marking the first eschatological revelation within the Doctrine and Covenants. They explore its profound theological depth, addressing the end times, the gathering of Israel, and the redemption from sin and Satan's influence.
2. Understanding Eschatology
Casey humorously introduces the term "eschatological," highlighting its complexity and relevance.
[00:53] Casey: "I'm going to pause you, Scott, because that is a big word... eschatological. To our listeners, this is a huge word."
Scott defines eschatology as the branch of theology concerned with the end times, emphasizing that Section 29 offers a comprehensive look into millennial themes such as heaven, the millennium, and the sanctification of the earth.
[02:07] Scott: "Eschatology is the branch of theology that studies the end of times... the first eschatological revelation."
3. Context Behind Section 29: Joseph Smith Translation Project
The revelation emerges from the Joseph Smith Translation (JST) project, which significantly influenced the Doctrine and Covenants by introducing richer doctrinal content.
[04:14] Casey: "Joseph is studying the Scriptures... the Joseph Smith Translation project... leads to a really rich theological section."
4. The Two Scriptural Issues Addressed
4.1. Gathering of Israel and the New Jerusalem
The first issue revolves around a prophecy from the Book of Mormon, where Jesus foretells the gospel's fullness being given to the Gentiles and the gathering of Israel. Early church members saw themselves as these Gentile converts, destined to partner with the descendants of Lehi (interpreted as Native Americans) to build the New Jerusalem.
[07:36] Casey: "Jesus prophesies... Gentiles will assist the remnant of Jacob... build the city which shall be called the New Jerusalem."
4.2. The Death of Adam and the Nature of Commandments
The second issue pertains to understanding Adam's transgression and its implications. This inquiry is linked to Joseph Smith's ongoing translation of the Bible, particularly his work on Genesis and its expansion into the Book of Moses.
[05:37] Scott: "These are kinda doctrinally rich questions because Joseph's nose is in the Bible... revealing profound insights."
5. Detailed Exploration of Section 29 Verses
5.1. Verses 1-6: Introduction and God's Invitation
God begins by addressing His people with titles that echo the Exodus story, such as "the Lord" and "Redeemer." He invites the faithful to unite in prayer and assures them of their selection to declare His gospel.
[20:40] Casey: "He’s trying to gather you... safe from all this."
5.2. Verses 7-21: Redemption of Israel and Second Coming Prophecies
God affirms the gathering of His elect, drawing parallels to the original Exodus. He foretells tribulations and the eventual Second Coming, where righteous individuals will be redeemed and rule with Him during the millennium.
[22:44] Scott: "The Lord is affirming... when Jesus's second coming."
5.3. Verses 22-30: Transition to Redemption from Satan and Adam's Fall
A bridge is built towards the second redemption narrative, emphasizing the creation's completion and the eventual renewal of heaven and earth. This segment reassures believers of an ultimate restoration despite impending tribulations.
[38:11] Scott: "A thousand years and the wicked shall not stand... all things shall become new."
5.4. Verses 30-50: Redemption from Satan and the Fall of Adam
This section delves into the premortal rebellion of Satan and his angels, Adam's temptation, and the consequences of the Fall. It underscores the necessity of agency, the role of evil in God's plan, and the path to redemption through repentance and Christ's atonement.
[51:38] Casey: "This is theological nugget... redemption from their subjection."
5.4.1. Special Redemptive Conditions
God delineates special conditions for redemption:
- Little Children: Automatically redeemed as they cannot sin.
[59:15] Casey: "The first group is little children whom the Lord says they're redeemed from the foundation of the world." - Those Without Understanding: Individuals with mental disabilities or ignorance receive special consideration, ensuring judgment is fair and based on understanding.
[60:07] Scott: "He doesn't punish somebody who doesn't know that what they're doing is wrong."
6. Controversies Discussed
6.1. The Concept of the Elect and Potential Elitism
The mention of the "elect" in the gathering raises concerns about elitism. However, Scott and Casey argue that being elect is based on choosing to hear God's voice and repent, making it accessible to all.
[62:11] Casey: "It seems like that is something that everybody is capable of doing."
6.2. Fate of Children and Those Without Understanding
The assurance that children and those lacking understanding are redeemed is comforting but raises questions about agency and predestination. Scott and Casey emphasize that God's judgments are just and considerate of individual capacities.
[68:44] Casey: "Special redemption conditions for children and those who have no understanding."
7. Conclusion: Implications and Takeaways
Scott and Casey summarize that Section 29 presents two intertwined redemption narratives:
- Redemption of Israel from scattered bondage to their promised land during the millennium.
- Redemption of the human family from Satan's influence and spiritual death through repentance and Christ.
The revelation emphasizes individual agency, the importance of hearing and responding to God's voice, and the inclusive nature of redemption for all who choose righteousness. Special provisions for children and those without understanding highlight God's mercy and just nature.
[73:05] Casey: "The best commentary on Scripture is Scripture... divine and profound truths."
The hosts encourage listeners to reflect on the theological richness of Section 29 and apply its teachings to their lives, reinforcing the continuous journey towards spiritual redemption and fulfillment.
Notable Quotes:
- Scott [02:07]: "Eschatology is the branch of theology that studies the end of times... the first eschatological revelation."
- Casey [05:37]: "Joseph is studying the Scriptures... leads to a really rich theological section."
- Scott [20:40]: "Always repenting and choosing righteousness..."
- Casey [62:12]: "You choose to be elect. That's the way my mission president used to explain it to us."
- Scott [61:55]: "Anyone can join. It's up to you."
Final Thoughts:
This episode underscores the depth and complexity of D&C Section 29, encouraging listeners to engage deeply with scripture, understand the historical and doctrinal contexts, and apply the teachings to their personal spiritual journeys. Scott and Casey adeptly navigate theological concepts, making eschatological themes accessible and relevant to contemporary believers.
