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CISO Perspectives (public)
Hosted by N2K Networks · EN
This season on CISO Perspectives, host Kim Jones explores some of the challenges of leading through uncertainty. We explore the complexity of the changing nature of regulation and working with the federal government, the evolution of privacy and fraud, and how emerging technologies like AI and quantum computing are changing cyber. When you don’t know what questions to ask, you’re afraid to ask, or don’t know who to ask, CISO Perspectives provides the foundation for learning in this brave new world.
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Are we a trade or a profession?
Jan 2000:44:33Tap to summarizePlease enjoy this encore of CISO Perspectives. Show Notes: Cybersecurity has an identity problem where the industry as a whole is struggling to determine whether it is a trade or a profession. In this episode of CISO Perspectives, host Kim Jones sits down with Larry Whiteside Jr., the Chief Advisory Officer for The CISO Society, to discuss this identity crisis and how the industry as a whole connects to both of these labels. Throughout the conversation, Larry and Kim will discuss the merits and drawbacks of both labels and how cybersecurity does not solely fall into one category or the other. Want more CISO Perspectives?: Check out a companion blog post by our very own Ethan Cook, where he breaks down key insights, shares behind-the-scenes context, and highlights research that complements this episode. It’s the perfect follow-up if you’re curious about the cyber talent crunch and how we can reshape the ecosystem for future professionals.
Transcribe →Is the cyber talent ecosystem broken?
Jan 1300:40:36Tap to summarizePlease enjoy this encore of CISO Perspectives Show Notes: The cyber talent ecosystem faces severe indigestion, which has stifled growth and closed doors to new talent. In this episode of CISO Perspectives, host Kim Jones sits down with Ed Adams, the Head of Cybersecurity for North America at the Bureau Veritas Group, to discuss what has caused this indigestion and how leadership can better address these challenges. A key aspect of this conversation revolved around discussing Ed's book, See Yourself in Cyber: Security Careers Beyond Hacking, and how he expands the conversation surrounding traditional roles associated with cybersecurity. Want more CISO Perspectives?: Check out a companion blog post by our very own Ethan Cook, where he breaks down key insights, shares behind-the-scenes context, and highlights research that complements this episode. It’s the perfect follow-up if you’re curious about the cyber talent crunch and how we can reshape the ecosystem for future professionals.
Transcribe →Season finale: Leading security in a brave new world.
Dec 3000:43:59Tap to summarizeIn the season finale of CSO Perspectives, Ethan Cook and Kim Jones reflect on a season of conversations exploring what it means to lead security in a rapidly evolving “brave new world.” From the realities behind AI hype and the slow-burn impact of quantum computing to the business forces shaping cybersecurity innovation, they revisit key lessons and lingering challenges facing today’s CISOs. The episode closes with an optimistic—but candid—look at why fundamentals, critical thinking, and leadership still matter as the industry moves forward. Want more CISO Perspectives? Check out companion blog posts by our very own Ethan Cook, where he breaks down key insights, shares behind-the-scenes context, and highlights research that complements episodes throughout the season.
Transcribe →Tech Investment Strategies and Overview
Dec 2300:48:39Tap to summarizeIn this CISOP episode of CSO Perspectives, Host Kim Jones sits down with John Funge, venture capitalist at DataTribe, to explore how investors view the cybersecurity landscape. Kim reflects on the tension between innovation, profit motives, and the real needs of security practitioners—raising questions about whether the industry prioritizes mitigation over true solutions. John offers a candid look inside the VC decision-making process, breaking down how teams, market fit, and long-term defensibility shape investment choices. Together, they examine how founders, investors, and CISOs can better align to drive meaningful, effective security innovation. Want more CISO Perspectives? Check out a companion blog post by our very own Ethan Cook, where he breaks down key insights, shares behind-the-scenes context, and highlights research that complements this episode.
Transcribe →Quantum
Dec 1600:39:16Tap to summarizeIn this episode, host Kim Jones tacks a topic that is rapidly moving from theoretical to operational reality: quantum computing. While classical computing will remain the backbone of our systems for years to come, quantum technologies are advancing fast enough that CISOs must begin preparing today. Kim explores what quantum computing really means, why it matters for cybersecurity, and how leaders should begin planning for its inevitable impact. To help demystify the subject, Kim is joined by longtime colleague and cybersecurity practitioner Michael Sottile—now the CSO of a quantum computing firm—who brings decades of hands-on experience across industries and a front-row seat to quantum's evolution. Want more CISO Perspectives? Check out a companion blog post by our very own Ethan Cook, where he breaks down key insights, shares behind-the-scenes context, and highlights research that complements this episode.
Transcribe →AI and cyber practicum
Dec 900:41:07Tap to summarizeIn this episode, host Kim Jones examines the rapid rise of enterprise AI and the tension between innovation and protection, sharing an RSA anecdote that highlights both excitement and concern. He outlines the benefits organizations hope to gain from AI while calling out often-overlooked risks like data quality, governance, and accountability. Kim is joined by technologist Tony Gauda to discuss why AI represents a fundamental shift in how systems and decisions are designed. Together, they explore AI-driven operations, cultural barriers to experimentation, and how CISOs can adopt AI responsibly without compromising security. Want more CISO Perspectives? Check out a companion blog post by our very own Ethan Cook, where he breaks down key insights, shares behind-the-scenes context, and highlights research that complements this episode.
Transcribe →AI's impact on business
Dec 200:40:55Tap to summarizeIn this episode, Kim Jones sits down with Eric Nagel, a former CISO with a rare blend of engineering, legal, and patent expertise, to unpack what responsible AI really looks like inside a modern enterprise. Eric breaks down the difference between traditional machine learning and generative AI, why nondeterministic outputs can be both powerful and risky, and how issues like bias, hallucinations, and data leakage demand new safeguards—including AI firewalls. He also discusses what smaller organizations can do to manage AI risk, how tools like code-generation models change expectations for developers, and the evolving regulatory landscape shaping how companies must deploy AI responsibly. Want more CISO Perspectives? Check out a companion blog post by our very own Ethan Cook, where he breaks down key insights, shares behind-the-scenes context, and highlights research that complements this episode.
Transcribe →Regulation takeaways with Ethan Cook.
Oct 2100:41:23Tap to summarizeOn this episode, host Kim Jones is joined by Ethan Cook, N2K’s lead analyst and editor, for a deeper, more reflective conversation on cybersecurity regulation, privacy, and the future of policy. This episode steps back from the news cycle to connect the dots and explore where the regulatory landscape is heading — and why it matters. Ethan, who will join the show regularly this season to provide big-picture analysis after major policy conversations, shares his perspective on the evolving balance between government oversight, innovation, and individual responsibility. This episode of N2K Pro's CISO Perspectives podcast is brought to you by our sponsor, Meter. Meter provides a full-stack, enterprise-grade networking solution—wired, wireless, and cellular—designed, deployed, and managed end-to-end. From hardware to software, ISP to security, Meter delivers seamless, secure, and scalable connectivity for modern business environments. Learn more about Meter. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Transcribe →The existing state of regulation.
Sep 2300:40:00Tap to summarizeRegulation is a double-edged sword. While it helps create structure, establish accountability, and set standards, it also creates unnecessary hurdles, slower response times, and overly rigid systems. With every administration, policy goals and subsequently regulatory stances change, which can have major impacts on business operations. In this episode of CISO Perspectives, host Kim Jones sits down with Ben Yelin, from the University of Maryland Center for Cyber Health and Hazard Strategies, to discuss the current state of regulation. Throughout the conversation, Ben and Kim discuss how the current administration views regulations and the future role of the federal government. Regulation is a double-edged sword. While it helps create structure, establish accountability, and set standards, it also creates unnecessary hurdles, slower response times, and overly rigid systems. With every administration, policy goals and subsequently regulatory stances change, which can have major impacts on business operations. In this episode of CISO Perspectives, host Kim Jones sits down with Ben Yelin, from the University of Maryland Center for Cyber Health and Hazard Strategies, to discuss the current state of regulation. Throughout the conversation, Ben and Kim discuss how the current administration views regulations and the future role of the federal government. This episode of N2K Pro's CISO Perspectives podcast is brought to you by our sponsor, Meter. Meter provides a full-stack, enterprise-grade networking solution—wired, wireless, and cellular—designed, deployed, and managed end-to-end. From hardware to software, ISP to security, Meter delivers seamless, secure, and scalable connectivity for modern business environments. Learn more about Meter. Want more CISO Perspectives? Check out a companion blog post by our very own Ethan Cook, where he breaks down key insights, shares behind-the-scenes context, and highlights research that complements this episode. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Transcribe →The return of CISO Perspectives.
Sep 1600:01:36Tap to summarizeThis season on CISO Perspectives—your host, Kim Jones is digging into the issues shaping the future of cybersecurity leadership. From the regulations every CISO needs to understand, to the unexpected places privacy risks are emerging, to the new ways fraud and identity are colliding—these conversations will sharpen your strategies and strengthen your defenses. Industry leaders join the discussion to share their insights, challenges, and hard-earned lessons. Together, we’ll connect the dots across regulation, privacy, fraud, leadership, and talent—helping you build a stronger, more resilient cybersecurity ecosystem. This is CISO Perspectives. Real conversations. Real strategies. Real impact. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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