Classical Stuff You Should Know
Episode 295: Robinson Crusoe, by Daniel Defoe
Release Date: February 3, 2026
Hosts: A.J. Hanenburg, Graeme Donaldson, Thomas Magbee
Episode Overview
In this episode, A.J., Graeme, and Thomas delve into Daniel Defoe's Robinson Crusoe, exploring the novel’s plot, historical backdrop, moral questions, and enduring influence. The hosts analyze both Defoe’s eventful life and the themes of providence, industry, cultural relativism, and the allure of the “simpler life.” The discussion is lively, self-deprecating, and thoughtful, balancing humor with critical engagement of the text’s more problematic aspects.
Key Discussion Points and Insights
1. Opening and Author Background
- Initial confusion: The hosts banter about confusing Robinson Crusoe with Swiss Family Robinson and Gulliver’s Travels ([01:30]), setting a playful tone.
- Daniel Defoe’s Life:
- Not originally “Defoe” – added the “De” for flair ([03:52])
- Son of a candle maker; educated in Surrey.
- Life as a merchant, government spy (for both Tories and Whigs), prolific writer (500+ works).
- Once sentenced to the pillory, but “flowered” with flowers, not fruit, due to a popular poem ([04:47]).
2. Plot Summary of Robinson Crusoe
- Early Life and Philosophy:
- Crusoe’s father warns him to seek a “middle station of life” for happiness ([05:27–08:21]).
- Long passage read from the novel about the virtues of the middle class ([05:27]).
- Hosts discuss the idea:
- Graeme: “He’s essentially agreeing with P. Diddy and Mace: more money, more problems” ([08:33]).
- Donaldson: Playful dissent, says he’d still like wealth and jet skis ([09:22]).
- Initial Voyages and Shipwreck:
- Crusoe goes to sea, repeatedly ignores advice, gets shipwrecked, becomes a slave, escapes ([11:19–13:56]).
- Begins life in Brazil as a successful plantation owner, joins a slave-trading expedition, and is shipwrecked again — alone this time ([13:56]).
- Survival on the Island:
- Salvages supplies, sets up fortified home, survives initial illnesses ([14:47–17:37]).
- Experiences a religious conversion after a fever, becomes deeply thankful for providential “blessings” ([17:37]).
- Graeme: “Dude’s going on a slaving mission. Yeah, he’s not great” ([17:35]).
- Raises goats and crops, contends with too many breeding cats, befriends a parrot, adapts to solitude ([17:47–21:05]).
- Remarkable industriousness: crafts tools, pottery, baskets, even a summer house ([21:05–22:38]).
- The Allure and Critique of the “Simpler Life”:
- Discussion on whether the book reflects nostalgia for a simpler, pre-modern existence.
- Graham: “It’s just funny that this is also this heart that’s happening in the 1600s... we have those sorts of parallels today” ([21:36–23:20]).
- They observe cyclical nostalgia through literary history, pointing to ancient and modern examples ([23:59–27:15]).
- Crusoe’s Changing Perspective:
- Over years, shifts from lamentation to thankfulness for his “blessings” ([17:37] and [33:34]).
- Discussions around instituting a kind of self-reliant kingdom on the island.
3. Encounters with Others: Cannibals, Friday, Mutineers
- Discovery of Cannibals:
- Crusoe finds footprints, becomes paranoid, and discovers cannibal rituals on the island ([34:14–35:28]).
- Long passage read where Crusoe debates the morality of killing the “savages” for cannibalism and questions his right to be their judge ([35:28–38:11]).
- Arthur: “Interesting to hear a 1600s ‘don’t judge other people, bro’ being applied to cannibalism” ([38:17]).
- Crusoe ultimately decides not to interfere unless necessary ([39:05–40:00]).
- Friday’s Arrival:
- Crusoe rescues a native (Friday) from cannibals. Friday pledges service for life ([42:19]).
- Realization that the phrase “my man Friday” originates here.
- Friday is taught English, Christianity, and bushcraft, and they become companions, though the master-servant dynamic is problematic ([42:22–43:50]).
- Crusoe rescues a native (Friday) from cannibals. Friday pledges service for life ([42:19]).
- More Rescues and Return to Civilization:
- Crusoe saves Spaniards, then thwarts a mutiny, and finally escapes the island after 28 years ([43:50–46:19]).
- Upon return: his little stipend in England is nearly gone, but his plantation has made him rich ([46:19–46:49]).
- Adventure elements escalate as Crusoe fights off wolves and bears in Europe before returning to the island once more ([46:48–47:49]).
4. Historical Inspiration: Alexander Selkirk
- Story of Selkirk, a Scottish privateer marooned for four years, is recounted in detail ([52:27–57:28]):
- Many Crusoe events are drawn from Selkirk’s real experiences (e.g., surviving on goats, befriending feral cats, being rescued by a privateer).
- Selkirk later observed: “I'm now worth 800 pounds, but shall never be as happy as when I was not worth a farthing.” ([56:48]).
Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments
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On Middle Class versus Wealth
- Graham: “I probably wouldn’t be upset if I was richer” ([08:24])
- Donaldson: “I would love a jet ski. And I wouldn’t mind a lake place, you know what I mean?” ([09:22])
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On Providential Survival
- Donaldson: “There’s a couple barrels of powder in there as well. ... For me, the part that matters the most is a dog and two cats. That companionship” ([14:47])
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On Cultural Relativism and Judgment
- Donaldson (reading Defoe): “I began with cooler thoughts to consider what I was going to engage in and what authority I had to pretend to be judge and executioner upon these men as criminals whom heaven had thought fit for so many ages to suffer unpunished...” ([35:28])
- Arthur: “Interesting to hear a 1600s ‘don’t judge other people, bro’ being applied to cannibalism” ([38:17])
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On Adventure Fiction’s Purpose
- Graham: “Even that [Crusoe’s industry] is a view of man, right? ... That sort of early modern philosophy... you will be saved if you work hard enough” ([31:35])
- Donaldson: “There’s almost no mention of the value of industry. The focus is thankfulness, even in bad situations” ([32:57])
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On Appropriating or Adapting Crusoe’s Message
- Donaldson: “He treats Friday with incredible respect and basically become bosom friends. ... He only sort of executes judgment on real, actual injustice.” ([48:00–48:28])
- Graham: “There’s this blind-spot—the imago dei—of the character... Are the other savages on the other side of the world my brother or are they not?” ([51:08])
- Donaldson: “If you are somebody who can be content with nothing, you can be entrusted to have the riches at the end” ([50:54])
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On Reading the Book Today
- Donaldson: “Read it when you’re 13.” ([57:42])
- “If you’re older, you can read it, but don’t expect it to be life-changing. Even the stuff about Providence—I couldn’t help but think, yeah, but if you had died or that earthquake had collapsed your hut…” ([57:51])
Timeline of Important Segments
- [01:30] – Hosts introduce confusion between Crusoe and other classic adventure tales
- [03:56] – Donaldson summarizes Daniel Defoe’s wild biography
- [05:27] – Excerpt on the virtues of the “middle station” in life; extended discussion follows
- [11:19] – Recap of Crusoe’s early reckless choices and first voyages
- [14:47] – Survival and ingenuity on the island; domestication of animals; crisis and conversion
- [17:35] – Discussion of Crusoe’s character flaws and religious awakening
- [21:36] – The “simpler times” theme and its resonance in literature and history
- [34:14] – Discovery of cannibal footprints; Crusoe’s moral quandary about “playing God”
- [35:28] – Reading and unpacking Crusoe’s debate about executing the cannibals
- [42:19] – Introduction of Friday; the master-servant dynamic and its legacy
- [46:19] – Crusoe’s escape/rescue, battles with wolves, and return to England
- [52:27] – The true story of Alexander Selkirk, Crusoe’s real-world inspiration
- [57:42] – Final judgments: best age to read, literary significance, and the “Providence Question”
Tone and Style
The episode is lighthearted and humorous, occasionally self-mocking. The hosts are candid about the novel’s outdated morals but also appreciative of its literary attributes and insight into its time. They blend serious critique with jokes about jet skis, wilderness survival skills, and who among the hosts would be eaten first if shipwrecked (Thomas, by their consensus at [30:03]).
Conclusion – Final Thoughts
- Robinson Crusoe remains a foundational adventure narrative, valuable especially to younger readers for its ingenuity and sense of Providence, but also reflective of significant blind spots around slavery, colonialism, and ethnocentric morality.
- The hosts agree: read for the adventure, be aware of its limitations; enjoy the “good tales” but interrogate their uncomfortable legacies.
Recommended Audience
- Ideal for educators, students, and anyone interested in classics, literary adventure, and the culture of early modern Europe.
- “Read it when you’re 13” ([57:42]) is the prevailing advice—enjoy the adventure, recognize the caveats.
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