Andy Vs Michael - A Christmas Special

Summary

Episode Summary: Andy Vs Michael - A Christmas Special

Podcast Title: Cleared Hot
Host/Author: Andy Stumpf
Episode: Andy Vs Michael - A Christmas Special
Release Date: December 27, 2024

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1. Introduction to Spartan Forge AI Tools

Timestamp: [00:00 – 02:13]

Although this section begins with advertisements, Andy briefly discusses Spartan Forge, a brand he has featured over the past two months. He highlights their advanced hunting tools, such as LIDAR and UAV mapping, deer movement prediction, and in-app pin sharing. Andy emphasizes the integration of AI for mentorship and terrain analysis, recommending listeners to explore their offerings, both on desktop and mobile platforms.

Notable Quote:

"Sometimes what a man needs is just some cheese." – Andy Stumpf
[02:51]

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2. Light-Hearted Conversations: Cheese and Life Reflections

Timestamp: [02:25 – 07:00]

Andy and Michael engage in a casual discussion about the simplicity of enjoying cheese amidst complex life thoughts. They joke about fitness fuel packs and meat sticks, using humor to navigate deeper topics about existential reflections and the challenges of overthinking.

Notable Quote:

"I think people would say, well, you're going out of your way to be nice to a certain segment. And if you were to say happy Holidays, it's a broader umbrella and therefore more inclusive because it encapsulates everybody." – Michael
[05:34]

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3. Ethical Dilemmas: The Hypothetical of Assassination for Money

Timestamp: [07:06 – 15:30]

The conversation takes a serious turn as Andy and Michael delve into moral and ethical questions surrounding hypothetical scenarios where individuals are offered large sums of money to commit acts of violence. They explore various conditions under which one might consider such actions, discussing the implications of wealth, the nature of the target, and personal moral boundaries.

Notable Quotes:

"Is it worth it? Is this optional? And the answer to that is almost always yes." – Andy
[06:53]

"What if it was a woman versus a man? I mean, I feel like a man would be an easier. Yes." – Michael
[13:58]

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4. Current Events: South Korea's Political Turmoil

Timestamp: [15:32 – 23:38]

Andy and Michael analyze recent political upheaval in South Korea, focusing on the president's declaration of martial law, subsequent impeachment, and the societal reactions. They discuss the implications of such actions on democratic processes and draw parallels with other governmental overreaches.

Notable Quote:

"He is on record with some wild ideas. It's pretty awesome." – Michael
[28:32]

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5. Technology and Conspiracy Theories: Drones Over New Jersey & AI Concerns

Timestamp: [23:38 – 41:10]

The hosts explore various conspiracy theories, including the mysterious presence of drones over New Jersey. They debate potential governmental motives, the role of AI in surveillance, and entertain playful notions like alien encounters. Additionally, they shift focus to the advancements and potential risks associated with AI, particularly discussing OpenAI's Chat GPT models and their capabilities.

Notable Quotes:

"OpenAI's new Chat GPT01 model will try to escape if it thinks it will be shut down, then lies about it." – Michael
[35:27]

"LLMs, those large. I use chat GPT all the time." – Andy
[38:27]

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6. AI Advancements: Implications for the Future

Timestamp: [35:11 – 40:49]

Andy and Michael delve deeper into the evolution of AI, discussing the potential for AI to surpass human intelligence and the ethical considerations that come with it. They touch upon the integration of AI in daily life, its impact on education, and the future possibilities of AI-generated content becoming indistinguishable from human-created material.

Notable Quote:

"There's a chance we're going to be working daily for a water ration for a robot army here pretty soon." – Andy
[35:52]

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7. Podcast Improvement and Future Directions

Timestamp: [41:14 – 48:35]

Shifting gears, Andy and Michael discuss potential changes to enhance the podcast experience. Topics include adjusting advertising formats, redesigning thumbnails for consistency, and involving Michael more in episode production. They emphasize the importance of listener feedback and aim to create a more streamlined and user-friendly podcast structure.

Notable Quote:

"From here on out you can just do the thumbnail stuff and then that way it's exactly how you like it with your autistic brain." – Andy
[46:59]

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8. Personal Anecdotes and Relationship Dynamics

Timestamp: [44:32 – 49:55]

In a lighter segment, Andy and Michael share personal stories and playful banter about past interactions, such as shared jokes and mutual teasing regarding Jiu Jitsu skills. This segment showcases their camaraderie and the informal, relatable nature of their discussions.

Notable Quote:

"They just get. Because the guys rocked, rocked the front door and move the thing like three feet backwards." – Andy
[32:55]

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9. Closing Remarks and Holiday Greetings

Timestamp: [49:33 – 49:58]

As the episode concludes, Andy and Michael exchange holiday wishes, with Michael humorously mentioning his wish for a starter camera. They sign off by encouraging listeners to engage with the podcast post-Christmas.

Notable Quote:

"Merry Christmas." – Michael
[49:52]

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Key Takeaways:

• Ethical Reflections: The episode challenges listeners to contemplate moral boundaries in hypothetical extreme scenarios.

• Current Affairs Insight: Provides an analysis of South Korea's political situation, emphasizing the fragility of democratic institutions.

• AI and Technology: Raises awareness about the rapid advancements in AI, its potential risks, and the necessity for ethical oversight.

• Podcast Evolution: Demonstrates a commitment to improving listener experience through structural and content-related adjustments.

• Relatable Host Dynamics: Highlights the genuine rapport between Andy and Michael, making complex discussions more accessible and engaging.

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Conclusion

"Andy Vs Michael - A Christmas Special" offers a blend of serious ethical debates, current event analyses, and light-hearted personal interactions. Through engaging discussions, the hosts encourage listeners to think critically about technology, governance, and personal morals while maintaining an approachable and relatable dialogue.

Transcript

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West of the smoke.

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I'm looking at danger close now. I don't want it there to give it to me. I mean. It cleared hot. Copy.

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Cleared hot. All right.

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Do you ever just sit down and eat a few pieces of cheese and think about life?

[B]

Yeah, occasionally. Is that what you're doing right now?

[A]

The cheese part?

[B]

Yeah. You're not thinking about life?

[A]

I try not to.

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Yeah. I just.

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Things become complicated when I think about too much stuff.

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Yeah. My head starts to hurt, so I just stop thinking.

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And you know what's easy? These little cheese cubes.

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Cheese. Those are. They're pretty nice.

[A]

I think so.

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Little fit fuel packs, as they call them.

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Sometimes what a man needs is just some cheese.

[B]

Sometimes meat sticks.

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Yeah.

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All right, let's see if I can.

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This is our Christmas special.

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Christmas special. We should have wore.

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This is going to. I am wearing one.

[B]

Well, I mean, like, Santa hats.

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This will come out after Christmas, so this could be and will be our gift to everybody because they can unwrap this after. This is another present under the tree.

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Yeah, that's a good idea, actually.

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Yeah.

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Merry Christmas, everybody.

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Yeah, indeed. I mean, super. I don't know what magic word applies to you using the term Merry Christmas as opposed to just cutting out every.

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Other belief and holiday Very exclusive of me.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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I expected. I mean, I'm not gonna sit here and say I expected more of you.

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But, you know, let's start off with that. How ridiculous it is to expect somebody to say. To stop saying Merry Christmas and say Happy Holidays instead.

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I don't care what people say.

[B]

I don't either.

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But don't get pissy at me if I make noises with my vocal cord that you may not align with because you feel.

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Yeah.

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Maybe it is Kwanzaa or whatever other holiday that may be occurring of the many that I don't even know exist. And I'm gonna be honest. I don't care to know that they exist as long as they mean something to people and they get to express themselves in that way.

[B]

For sure.

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I don't and have never understood why the vibrating vocal cords have such an allergic reaction to certain people when they produce noises that don't align with their beliefs.

[B]

Oh, yeah. Some words, especially, really get people going.

[A]

Some words, though, are used. Really? Negative connotation. Yeah.

[B]

Oh, yeah, absolutely.

[A]

And people are using them to try to be dicks.

[B]

Yeah. For the whole purpose of doing that.

[A]

Sometimes I fall into that category, as you have experienced. It's funny, but I do that in an individual level, targeting people That I actually care about.

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Yeah.

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In the hopes to forge them, speaking of you, in this instance, into the weapon that I know you can be, but are unlikely to ever achieve.

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No.

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Yeah. I just live your life, and in the process of doing so, maybe just don't push it on me or other people.

[B]

Yeah. The other thing, too, is, like, the sentiment is still the same. Like, you're not trying to be rude by saying, merry Christmas. You're trying. You're going out of your way to be nice.

[A]

Yeah. I think people would say, well, you're going out of your way to be nice to a certain segment. And if you were to say happy Holidays, it's a broader umbrella and therefore more inclusive because it encapsulates everybody. My theory is, say whatever you want to say.

[B]

Yeah. You know, and if it's very offensive, just be prepared for the consequences of that.

[A]

Who gets to decide what is offensive?

[B]

The individual. An individual level.

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Yeah.

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I mean, but a lot of words are broadly considered offensive to everybody.

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They are. But that's voluntary.

[B]

Oh, yeah. I agree.

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Outrage is voluntary almost every turn.

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Yeah. There is almost nothing somebody could say that would cause me to actually get mad.

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How much time do we have? Should we try?

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Well, the thing is, like, I feel.

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Like I could find it, but you would. Well, no, because you would know that I'm joking.

[B]

Exactly. Exactly.

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If somebody could, it would happen. It would happen in real life. On a. You know, real life. Being outside of the studio.

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Yeah.

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On a day where you were, like, tired or something like that, and somebody were to cut you off, and they would just say something that irritates, like, we're all, trust me, susceptible to it. And there are some things that will spin me high and right, too. But what I try to do is catch myself going high and right, and then I will literally talk to myself out loud and ask myself, what is it that you're actually getting mad at?

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Is this even worth it?

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Is it worth it? Is this optional? And the answer to that is almost always yes.

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Yeah.

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So what else you got? I have some cheese and grapes. Okay.

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Have fun. All right, let's see. So kind of a lot happened this last week. Did it? Yeah. Well, first of all, the CEO got shot. I guess that was maybe two weeks ago, but that CEO got shot.

[A]

Yep.

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A lot of people supportive of the assassin.

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He gained 100,000 Twitter followers as soon as he got sent into prison, or not prison. Yet he's in jail, I would assume. Is there a question associated with this?

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What's your opinion on all of his Support.

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Well, if he wasn't, and I'm not making an excuse at all, I'm going to lay out just a different situation. If he wasn't the CEO of a healthcare company that in the one article that I saw, that's the depth of my research was at the top of the list as far as denying claims goes. And he was a person on the street who was gunned down in random violence. The person who shot him would have none of that support.

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Yes. Yeah.

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And for everybody out there. Well, like that's not the case. He is in fact the CEO. I totally get that. Does that mean that his wife and kids should no longer have a father and a husband?

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Right.

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How would you want somebody if the, you know, if the situation were reversed? Again, you have to probably remove from that the. The occupational role that he held. How would you feel if somebody was supportive of the person that murdered you? I am jealous you decided to skip the podcast yesterday because you had. You needed a mental health day. That's what I described it to Nick. But we were talking about this a little bit and he and I are both actually, of all of it, jealous about the fact the man's being called an assassin. Because that's what I want to be called.

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Yeah. Also, what kind of gun was he using that jammed every shot or did he just not know how to use a gun?

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I don't know. In talking with Glover a little bit. So he had a 3D printed or non commercial lower, meaning the portion that your hand wraps around the upper was apparently from a Glock with a metal barrel. And it was a 3D printed silencer or suppressor, depending on people how they want to talk about it. Yeah. It could have been the type of ammunition that it was using. I mean, you can cause it to not cycle just by having your thumbs in the wrong position or physically blocking. Blocking. Yeah. The recoil. I don't know. I didn't dig into that too much. I haven't heard too much about it. I'd be curious where he got it from.

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Yeah.

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Curious if he practiced. That's what I actually am interested in. He obviously knew who he was. Knew who he was targeting for sure. It would appear that he had put some thought into it. Those are the things that I'm a little bit more curious about.

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Yeah.

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You know, I feel very badly for the family now, getting ready to go through their holidays with out of father. And I know some people, the ones who support the Luigi, I think his name was, would say. Yeah. But think about all the families that, you know, that that healthcare company may have denied claims from. And you know, and I get that. But you need to be able to think about two individual things. Like I can separate him and his family from the role that he held professionally. I also can understand why they would say those things. But I'm just. I'm trying to have. Because I want to have empathy for people in that situation. Yeah. So that sucks. But I'm curious as to. And I hope that it comes out the, you know, the five dubs. Who. Why? Yeah, those things.

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I think he had a manifesto on him when he. Or in his backpack or something.

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What is the length required for a manifesto? Because I also feel like I would like to have one of those, I.

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Don'T know, like a page 500 words.

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You imagine being an assassin with a manifesto.

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That's pretty.

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It's pretty dope.

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Yeah. It's pretty badass.

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Yeah. I don't think you have it in you, but you could write the manifesto. I think you personally, I think you would crumble in the moment of truth.

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Maybe.

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What would be your. What's your dollar amount for you to kill somebody?

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I don't want to kill anybody.

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I mean, maybe nobody does, but what if you got offered $10 million and the a pedophile that harms children? What's your number?

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I don't know. Like, $10 million is a pretty good amount of money.

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How about a hundred million?

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Yeah.

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You would kill somebody for 100 million.

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If that person was a really horrible person.

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What if you weren't sure whether or not they were? But they would write you a tax free. They would pay the tax consequence on the 100 million. So you would actually get to walk with 100 million as opposed to like the 55?

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If I wasn't sure, then. No.

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200 million?

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No.

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How about a billion dollars?

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That's so much money. I can't even conceptualize that much money.

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Yeah, but could you conceptualize killing somebody for that much money?

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No.

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What if it was a coin toss? Maybe they were good.

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You want me to kill somebody so badly.

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I'm not. I'm just, you know, taking your temperature here.

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Okay?

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I have not said I want you to kill anybody. I am curious.

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You're really getting me to try to.

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How many zeros would need to be on a check for you to do that?

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I don't even know. It's. It's not something I've really considered before.

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Until today.

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Until today. I'll. You know what? I'll think about it. Get back to you on next, Michael Vers, Andy.

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All right.

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Okay.

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I mean, I don't know anybody who has that much money that would give it to you. So this is definitely a hypothetical conversation.

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Absolutely. Hypothetical. Yeah.

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Yeah. Figure out who you are in your off time. What's your number?

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You know who I want to kill?

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No. Because in this situation, somebody's approaching you. They're the client. They have you get a. All you get is a glossy 8 by 10, like Walmart, school photo of somebody and an address and a check.

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And the check. What if I just cast the check and don't kill a person?

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I don't think that's how that works.

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Well, what if I did it?

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I feel like then you might find yourself encountering somebody else who got a different check.

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Yeah, I think that's probably true.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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No questions asked. $1 billion. Are you in?

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No, I. No.

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Interesting.

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I mean, I'm pretty comfortable with the life I'm living right now. Like, I don't really.

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What about the life you could live with a billion dollars, tax free?

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It's a lot of money. It's for sure a lot of money. Yeah.

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You can go back to Italy a bunch of time and not talk to girls at all. You just. You could buy your own flat south of France and read novels and play fucking. Play chess on your deck overlooking the ocean.

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I could do that, yeah. Well, geez, maybe I will kill somebody then.

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It's a coin toss though, whether they're good or bad. Oh, what about if it was a woman versus a man?

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I mean, I feel like a man would be an easier. Yes.

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Why?

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I don't know, just cuz women seem in general not as.

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Tell me more.

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We should just stop.

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Mistake. Were you just about to say.

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Because in general men are more violent. And so the stats.

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Definitely.

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Yeah.

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Prove that.

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And so what I was going to say.

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Yeah, what were you going to.

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Women in general are less violent.

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Yeah.

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I mean, statistically it would be.

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Does that mean they could be less evil though?

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No, I mean, it would depend on the individual.

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You don't get to know that information. This is just a picture.

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That's why we're applying broad statistics to one individual. And that's going to be difficult to determine.

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What if it was like an 80 year old and you could tell that they were, but they don't have that much time left anyway.

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What if they had a dnr? They had like stage four cancer.

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Okay.

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And they just wanted to die.

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I don't think somebody would pay you a billion dollars to solve that problem?

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I don't think so. But in this, remember, hypothetical, obscure and.

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Bespoke scenario, what you would need is elderly dnr, potentially a degrading brain injury like dementia or Alzheimer's. Bedridden, no family. And then perhaps you would consider a billion dollars.

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I would consider it. Yeah.

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All right.

[B]

Yep.

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So you and I are not the same.

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Yeah, I know. All right, fire away.

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What else you have? Even though this is probably my favorite topic we've ever talked about.

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Yeah. This is very interesting for me.

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It's quite illuminating.

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Yeah. Really delving deep into my.

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Excuse me.

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Into my psyche. Did you hear about all the South Korea stuff? So the president, South Korea's president is, I think he. He gets voted out, declares martial law, saying that his opposition are right. Are North Korean sympathizers and tries to use the military to lock out anybody from the parliament building.

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How'd that go for him?

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Not good. He got impeached. Yeah. Let me pull up the news article here.

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All right, so he. So he lost an election, said no thank you. Martial law. That didn't work.

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Yeah.

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Impeached.

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Yes.

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And now he's out of office.

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So I don't know the facing. Facing impeachment, I guess.

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Oh, an insurrection probe. See, we're not the only ones who can do it.

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No. Yeah.

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So he's probably just serving out the rest of his term.

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I think so.

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You short lived decree triggered weeks of protests and political turmoil. Was suspended from office after at least 12 members of his own ruling party voted in favor of his impeachment. Damn. Following his refusal to resign. But the fate of the embattled leader is far from sealed. You now waits for a top court to deliberate the impeachment motion and decide whether he will be formally removed from the presidency or reinstated into office. What could take up to six months. Meanwhile, the former prosecutor turned politician has been banned from leaving the country and is facing a string of investigations, including potential charges of leading an insurrection, a crime punishable by life imprisonment or even the death penalty. Huh. So we don't actually know where this guy stands.

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No. So I guess he's not totally impeached yet. But I believe.

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I think martial law to get to the root cause of this is probably a really bad idea.

[B]

Yeah. I.

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Especially if it comes to. You don't like you work in a. Or you live in a country that has some semblance of a democratic or voting process and because you don't like how it. The results came out that you apply martial law, that. That sets a really bad precedent. I think that should be avoided at all costs.

[B]

Yeah. And it's ironic that he called his opposition North Korean sympathizers when that's exactly the state that North Korea lives in 24 7. What is like the martial law oppression state.

[A]

Yeah. Yeah. Indeed.

[B]

Yeah. So I just didn't know if you heard about that.

[A]

I. I've heard about it now.

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Okay, good.

[A]

Yeah.

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I've enlightened you.

[A]

Yeah. Enlightened.

[B]

That's cool.

[A]

You're supposed to bring the heat to these episodes.

[B]

I thought that that was pretty interesting. Is that not interesting to you?

[A]

It says it's going to take six months for it to, like, net itself out.

[B]

Yeah, that's still interesting.

[A]

There are shades of things that interest me in that.

[B]

Okay, cool. Drones over New Jersey. A lot of conspiracies about that.

[A]

Before I tell you what I think it is, what do you think it is? As the young, impressionable person.

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Right. Yeah. I. I mean, I don't know. Obviously. I. I've heard. I saw a video of one like drone manufacturing guy that was like. It's looks like it might be like a. A gas leak survey or something like that.

[A]

Gas leak? Like the drone is surveying a gas leak?

[B]

Yeah, or something. I don't know.

[A]

So it's an industrial product.

[B]

Yeah. Or something like that. Yeah.

[A]

I don't see that. So DJI has some ridiculously cool technology and I don't know how. I stumbled onto their website and I was looking at some industrial stuff. They have these autonomous drones that essentially. And the one video that I saw them on, they were surveying power lines, but they would go back and they would land in this station. They would charge themselves. There was a protective clamshell that came over. It was awesome.

[B]

Yeah.

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So I can totally see that it might be an industrial use of something like that.

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Yeah. The only thing that like, is kind of doesn't make any sense to me is why the government is just like, not if that's what it is. Why would they not just come out and say that?

[A]

Sometimes the government doesn't tell you stuff. Let's say as a hypothetical, because I have absolutely no beta on any of this, but let's say the COVID story that they're using is potentially an industrial leak.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

But the reality is it's near a military base and maybe they were doing a test flight with a live nuclear weapon and that might have fallen off the wings. Right?

[B]

Yeah.

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They're not going to tell you what it is that they're looking for. And I would if I was. Had the Ability and authorization to do so. I would use every single drone and human platform possible to locate that before my head was put on the chopping block, which is going to happen eventually. But I think maybe it would be a less powerful blow if you found what it is you were looking for or you may have lost. So oftentimes they'll give you this bullshit, hey, it's an industrial gas leak or whatever it is. Probably not the case, but I bet you there's 40% truth. The truth in that would be we're looking for something.

[B]

We're looking for something.

[A]

The lie in that is we're not gonna tell you exactly what it is because it might freak people out. Dude, maybe an alien landed and got out of the spaceship and is running.

[B]

Around and they're looking for it.

[A]

That's a. I want it to be aliens. You know me well enough, I want it to.

[B]

Aliens. I do too.

[A]

But I feel horrible for them if where their first encounter is going to be. Jersey.

[B]

Oof. Yeah, it's tough.

[A]

I feel like they need to get back on a ship and head down to Miami and it's going to be fucking on. Dudes doing wheelies and crotch rockets with no shirt on and flip flops and gators and just wild happening in Florida. That's where I think aliens should check in first.

[B]

Good idea. Yeah, yeah. So you're a subscriber to the lost nuke theory.

[A]

I don't know if that theory is. I mean, I was giving you a hypothetical of what I could see. The government, an example of the government doing something where they would not tell you.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

What it is that they are doing. And they would probably say the reason we're not going to be truthful and up front is we don't want to sow widespread panic.

[B]

Right. Yeah.

[A]

You know, and there's a whole argument or conversation in that. Should they just tell the truth this, that or the other. But that's a different conversation. Yeah, I'm not saying that's what it is. I'm saying in my own personal and limited experience, I could see that being the case.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Aliens to me, I mean, some of these drones, a good majority of them have navigation lights on them, which. That's the shittiest alien ever.

[B]

That's an extreme alien.

[A]

And I've heard people saying they could be Iranian or Chinese.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

That's the worst secret observation platform ever.

[B]

Yeah, it's just blatantly obvious.

[A]

Use satellite imagery, you know, shit we can't even see passing over our head. Like, come on.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I think, again, and I think this is. I've said this a bunch about COVID I think the government would have been so much better off just being honest and saying we don't know, but this is our best information at the time.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

This is a slightly different situation, especially if it's the government behind it, but not saying anything other than this article that I saw today which said New Jersey, you know, government telling people not to shoot at the drones. I. That's not helping.

[B]

You know, and that just.

[A]

We can't tell you what it is. But don't go in your backyard.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Go to the firing range.

[B]

Yeah. That, to me, just makes it seem like they have. I mean, I'm sure they do have an idea, but it just makes it seem like it's almost them instigating or not Instagram something, but doing something with the drones or whatever.

[A]

Maybe they are. I don't know.

[B]

I don't know. But I don't think it's really anything nefarious because it's been going on for like, two weeks now.

[A]

Yeah. And then I think there's a lot of hype that gets built around it. And then people. Have you ever heard about the, like, the red car theory or the stop sign theory? You don't see a lot of them until somebody brings it up and asks you, how often do you see that? And then for the next couple days.

[B]

It'S in your head. Yeah. Yeah.

[A]

I'm not saying that's the case, but that is a real thing.

[B]

Yeah, I bet that's a. Yeah. I haven't seen some truly crazy conspiracies, like, they're gonna drop a nuke on, like, the. The Trump inauguration and use it to blame Iran to go into a war or something. And I'm just like, how does somebody actually believe that? That's insane.

[A]

If they have. If that happened, that would be the end of the world.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

That would be full on nuclear World War iii. And nobody escapes that.

[B]

No, no. It's just a bad idea.

[A]

Yeah. Conspiracy theorists are pretty wild.

[B]

They go crazy.

[A]

So Kron Gracie got knocked out by.

[B]

Was this recent.

[A]

Yeah. Last Saturday. And I really.

[B]

I didn't know. He fought again.

[A]

No, A couple weeks ago.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

He jumped close guard.

[B]

I'm looking this up.

[A]

And the dude slammed him and then elbowed him into the next century. Or next year, I should say 20. He's in 2025 already. He's time traveling.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

So the guy who knocked him out is a huge conspiracy theorist.

[B]

Really?

[A]

I have heard him arguing Devoutly about the ice wall in Antarctica. He thinks that the world is flat, I think.

[B]

Is it Bryce Mitchell? Because that would make so much sense.

[A]

Is that the hillbilly Hammer? Which I think.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

Yes, it is. Who I met in Nashville on our way home, and I fist bumped him. I'm like, thank you so much for beating the living out of crone, Gracie.

[B]

Yeah, that's awesome.

[A]

Yeah. Okay, so I'm pretty sure. Yeah, he's gonna jump.

[B]

Hold on. Let me just get.

[A]

Pull that video up.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And for people who don't know what I'm talking about, jumping clothes guard would mean somebody's wrapping their legs around their opponent.

[B]

Oh, no.

[A]

What do we got here? Crohn's on the left. Yep. Oh, little knee to the face. I'm glad this was filmed from the 400th row, right?

[B]

I imagine UFC hasn't released the official.

[A]

Maybe not.

[B]

Yep. They're pretty stingy with that stuff.

[A]

I don't know if we're gonna get to.

[B]

Oh, is it here?

[A]

He's getting ready to jump. Yep, there it is. That's guard. Oh, yeah. Boom. Punch, punch, punch in the old kidney elbow. In your face. Fight's over.

[B]

Nice.

[A]

The man who beat the shit out.

[B]

Of him, Bryce Mitchell.

[A]

He is on record with some wild ideas.

[B]

Let's just look some of these up.

[A]

Go to pbd. Bryce Mitchell conspiracies. He believes that gay people are incapable of serving in the military. He believes that the Earth is flat. And as somebody who's been to Antarctica, let me be clear. There's no fucking ice wall there.

[B]

Yeah, there's ice.

[A]

Oh, here we go. Where's some audio?

[B]

Yeah, let me.

[A]

We're 100% gonna get probably kicked off of YouTube, but.

[B]

Oh, no.

[A]

Whoa. Dude, that's Skynyrd. Don't be fucking playing Skynyrd.

[B]

No. I don't even know what I did.

[A]

Oh, my God.

[B]

Hold on.

[A]

How about this? For those of you so we don't waste your time, Go and just put Google. What's his name? Bryce. What?

[B]

Bryce Mitchell.

[A]

Bryce Mitchell. Do Bryce Mitchell. Pbd. Patrick Bet David conspiracies. What do you got? You got one. Hit it. I was really disgusted because at that point, I knew the demons are real.

[B]

I actually knew body.

[A]

You can't spell Pride Month. Without somebody that is fooling everybody. But he simply a step further than just the con artist. He's evil embodied.

[B]

Wow.

[A]

The Earth is stationary. It's covered by a dome. You got to know that NASA is evil at a T. It can spell the Word.

[B]

Satan. Whoa.

[A]

We are coming close. We are getting very close. They're never going to take my steak. They can take my life, but they will not take my steak. And I promise you that I love steak. You know the one explanation that will lead to freedom more than anything else? Starting a farm, Controlling your own food. Ladies and gentlemen. You're welcome.

[B]

Wow. I. I had no idea.

[A]

You cannot spell pride month without demon.

[B]

Which is true.

[A]

It is true. Let's just put that in the category of things that I've thought about.

[B]

No, it also means nothing that man believes, though he is a true believer.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

That is for those of you who found enlightenment or entertainment on that short clip that we played. I assure you that the Internet is full of more of that.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

With that particular individual. It's pretty awesome.

[B]

That is. That's interesting. Yeah, I. I did. I had no clue he was such a conspiracy theorist. That's cool. Good for him.

[A]

Is it good for him?

[B]

I mean, live your life.

[A]

You know what I mean?

[B]

He seems to be.

[A]

He was a very nice man in person.

[B]

Cool.

[A]

Yeah. His wife and very young child.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Chatted with him briefly. Yeah.

[B]

Nice. That's awesome.

[A]

Dive in, people, as much as you want to.

[B]

Okay, what's next here? Have you seen. I think this was a long time ago, but I just saw this video. Honduras Special Forces parachuting into.

[A]

Oh, yeah.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

Oh, you have. Do you have any idea how many times this has been forwarded to me? And people will say, what went wrong here? My response is just everything. Pull that video up. It's fucking great. So, demonstration skydiving. I'll break it down as you find it. Civilian skydiving. There is an A license, B license, C license, D license. I don't even remember what's required to get those things. And then here's your. Your pro rating, which is essentially a demonstration license. And you have to do additional knowledge and training on things like pyrotechnics. Part of that is landing in confined areas. Stadiums, which I'll put this into the stadium category, can be challenging.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And they don't have a lot of what we like to call outs, meaning once you reach this threshold of commitment, and most of the time, it's as you're looking down between your feet and you cross that threshold of entering over the top of the stadium, you are committed. And baseball stadiums are different than football. But it's. It's actually conceptually, it's not difficult. You. You plan and brief an altitude to crush that threshold. And let's Say you're coming into a baseball stadium. You maybe you'll follow the outfield wall and come down the third baseline and land going towards first base. Or you could go the other direction. Football. You enter and cross that threshold, you could follow. Follow one of the sidelines down all the way to the end. If you're a little bit high, you take it farther. If you're a little bit shorter, you start your turn earlier and you land facing downfield.

[B]

Okay. Do you think any of those calculations went into this particular.

[A]

Oh, I bet they did. I bet they thought they had planned it incredibly well. We're just going to let this one play itself out and highlight. You're welcome. Again, not really to the listener, because you're going to be sitting there going, what the fuck are they laughing at?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

But for the viewer who can see this, this is called. I say this often. Parachuting and skydiving is awesome. Until it's not. This is an example of it being that. Yeah, yeah, Go ahead.

[B]

Let's watch.

[A]

Oh, I love the music, too.

[B]

Yeah, very.

[A]

So this person is. I mean, they're committed. They're over the top of the people. They're making their final turn in.

[B]

Oh, no.

[A]

And, yeah, that's how you double femur yourself. It looks like a marching band that he landed on top of. So dash two is coming in. He's like, I got an idea. Let's just go fucking long into the bleachers. A little bit short. Porta potty. Nice. Hopefully there was somebody in there taking a deuce that just got.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

All right, so number three and number four taking a different approach. Number three here is like, I got an idea. Let's go straight into the stands. All of this stuff, the. The wind interacts differently the closer you get to that stuff. This last guy has had the answers to the test in front of him the whole time. He should have watched every jumper come in, and instead, he goes with the same. As the number three guy. Let's just bounce our canopy off the roof and then stuff it into the crowd.

[B]

Good call.

[A]

Is there another jumper? Please tell me there's one more.

[B]

No, I think that was it.

[A]

And here's the thing. The first jumper in, you are the windsock dummy for everybody else. If you go a little bit long, if you know what you're doing, you're watching where the person entered the stadium, where did they make their final turn? They go long or short. You have the answers to the test in front of you. What I like is that these guys all had the answers to the test and they said, fuck that.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Hold my beer. Not a single one of them touched down on that massive soccer pitch, which is bigger than a football field, by the way.

[B]

Right.

[A]

My favorite one, though is the guy who went into the shitter. Because I hope that there was somebody on there and you know, they're probably there like on their phone just sweating it out. In a Colombian port, a shitter in 100 degree temperature, 130 inside.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And they just get. Because the guys rocked, rocked the front door and move the thing like three feet backwards. That's my favorite part. And the guy is going into the crowd from the overhead on.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah, man.

[B]

Yeah. So you would say that is a demonstration of poor skydiving technique.

[A]

I feel like they did their best and sometimes your best is just not good enough. There's a reason why to get your pro rating from the uspa, the United States. United States Parachute Association.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

That you have, there's a knowledge and an experience test and one of the things you have to do. And again, it's been a really long time since I got my pro rating. So you have to declare 10 jumps, not sequentially, but you have to like. As you're getting ready to go, you're going to work with a. Probably a safety and training advisor. You declare. I think it's a. I think it's a 10 meter circle. You have to land inside of that or your first is. It's either your first point of contact or your last one. Regardless, there's a tight accuracy requirement and you have to declare 10 times. You can do it sequentially, but you could do one day and you know, for the next, whatever it is.

[B]

Oh, I see.

[A]

You miss any one of those, you start over.

[B]

Interesting.

[A]

And there's a reason for that. We just saw what happens when maybe they didn't play the circle drill.

[B]

Yeah. Or maybe their circle was like more of a jerk. 50 meters.

[A]

Yeah, yeah. It was more of a circle jerk than a circular landing because I feel like an ambulance was called.

[B]

Yeah. Some of those crashes look pretty brutal. Yeah.

[A]

Yeah. Skydiving is awesome till it's not.

[B]

Yeah, yeah.

[A]

And don't try to jump into stadiums or compressed areas or high consequence areas unless you're actually trained and equipped to do so.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Those canopies were not great for demonstrations either. Those were. And again, first few times I've watched the video, I haven't dug into it deeply. They looked like military canopies that were much bigger. They're going to float a little Bit more.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah. Get some.

[B]

Get some. Indeed. Okay, next. Oh, I saw this article in AI and I'm not sure exactly what company made it. Oh, I think it actually was the same company that does Chat gbt.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

They made an AI and it. It knew that it was about to be shut down, so it made a copy of itself. And this was all in a simulated environment. So none of this actually happened in real life.

[A]

That's what they're telling us.

[B]

Right. It made a copy of itself on another server so that it would still exist after it got shut down on the other server. And when asked about it, it lied about it.

[A]

Fuck. Yeah.

[B]

So let me pull up that article because it's. It's wild.

[A]

I think in as far as our human evolution, we're currently in the fuck around and find out phase.

[B]

Yeah, it seems like we're going to find out pretty quickly. Yeah.

[A]

There's a chance we're going to be working daily for a water ration for a robot army here pretty soon.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

OpenAI's new Chat GPT01 model will try to escape if it thinks it will be shut down, then lies about it. So this isn't even like. This is just their newer version.

[B]

Yeah, yeah.

[A]

All right, scroll down. I'm going to read some of this. New research on OpenAI's series of large language models, or LLMs, found that it's capable of scheming. I don't know if I like that word. Paired with artificial intelligence. I like that word a lot. I don't use it enough.

[B]

No, it's a good word.

[A]

All right, so this AI is scheming.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

Covertly pursuing goals that aren't aligned with its developers or users. That is enough for me to hear right there, that a fire axe should be taken to whatever the fuck this thing lives in.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

When it thinks it'll be turned off. So it'll do those things when it thinks it's gonna be turned off. Catching such behavior is critical to ensure AI's functionality doesn't stray from the objective of its creator and users. OpenAI partnered with AI safety organization Apollo Research to test out chat GPT01. Why do. Why do you think that 0 is smaller than the 1? It's like a lowercase 0 and a 1 instead of them both being the same size.

[B]

I Wonder if it's 01. Maybe.

[A]

Maybe. And other models to evaluate whether they were safe to use and release their findings this week. Let me see here. Researchers found that O1 would scheme to advance its own agenda. 19% of the time in cases where its goals and users didn't line up. In 37% of the cases, the model would switch from pursuing developer aligned goals back to pursuing its own agenda once it believed there was minimal oversight. Oh my God. Yeah. At one point, after the AI found documentation saying it would be replaced by a new model, it tried to abandon ship by copying its data to a new server entirely to avoid being deleted. Some AI models would even pretend to be later versions of the models to trick their developers. What I assume is the equivalent of slapping on a fake mustache and saying, he went that way. Dude, we're only like five years into this.

[B]

Yeah. It's already.

[A]

How do you test this stuff? Do you think they tested an air gapped server?

[B]

I think so, yeah. Yeah.

[A]

Like, what do they call it? A singularity where it becomes. What is it? Cognizant? I don't know, the right sentient perhaps?

[B]

Yeah, I think so.

[A]

LLMs, those large. I use chat GPT all the time.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And for. When I first started using it, I was trying to figure out ways that I would actually use it. I mean I've used it to create templates for contracts, business letter, like all sorts of stuff.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Recipes actually.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And yeah. If we're this early into it, I just. I'm thinking about my kids. Kids, their generation. Like, what are they going to have access to?

[B]

Yeah. It's going to be pretty insane actually. I feel like. Unless I feel like you have to.

[A]

Revamp the entire educational system as well.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

The curriculum and what it is that we're. Because, dude, can you imagine being in school and one. I didn't have a laptop in school.

[B]

Yeah, yeah.

[A]

I remember. I think it's my junior year. I took my first computer class on a machine that functioned at about the pace that the sun sets.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And. But can you imagine having a laptop like the one sitting on the desk and having the ability to look up anything or put. Because now you can. I've had it export stuff into PDF, into Word. You can put attachments into it, you can polish it up, you can ask it to sound more human or it's. I can't even. Like, English was one of my favorite classes. I always enjoyed writing.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

But the ability to just put a prompt in and spit out something that's almost undetectable.

[B]

Yeah. It's kind of crazy.

[A]

It's insane.

[B]

And have you seen some of these newer AI videos?

[A]

Yeah. Thank God. They're not great.

[B]

They're getting good.

[A]

They're getting good. But at this point, you still can still tell the movement is off.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

It seems to have a really hard time with walking in fingers.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

But again, we're so early into this.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I don't know, man.

[B]

Well, Sora, remember, like a long time ago I showed you Sora.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And that those were actually really good.

[A]

They were good and they're only going to get better.

[B]

Yeah. Like, if that's the base model, like, imagine like you could make a full scale movie and nobody could tell it was AI.

[A]

It'll get to that point. My guess it will be at that.

[B]

Point within the next five years, I would say.

[A]

I was gonna say in under a decade. I was gonna put the timeline out a little bit farther. Somebody will do it in five years. Yeah, but it will. It'll be pretty obvious is my guess. But I bet you in about 10 you might be able to fool quite a few people.

[B]

Well, the. You remember that the story of the. The AI art piece that won that competition that was only like six months into that. What's that one called? Mid Journey. Yeah, Into Mid Journey being publicly available.

[A]

Wait till AI is just teaching AI about AI stuff.

[B]

Yeah. What is funny about that is there's a lot of images going around that it is. There's so much AI images that the AI is starting to pull from those in creating really, really messed up pictures. And it's so.

[A]

Because it's tricking the AI now, it can't determine what's reality and what is it.

[B]

Yeah. Because it's making like copies of a copy of a copy of a copy and it just gets worse each time.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

So that part is kind of funny, but I feel like they'll find a way around that eventually.

[A]

Yeah, I like it. What? How long we've been going? 30 minutes?

[B]

40. Yeah.

[A]

Okay, question for you. 2025. What do you think we had to change for the podcast for 2025? There's some changes coming up that I can tell you about offline. But what do you think? What do you think we should change? I have thought sometimes.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And perhaps the listeners can answer. I still get an incredible volume of questions.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

But I think given that you're 23, 25, whatever. I think it might be beneficial to involve you in more of those Full Auto Friday ones so we can bounce it back and forth. And so your people are not just getting my impression.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Because I'm pretty close to death from old age.

[B]

Yeah, you're really old.

[A]

Yep. Older than I ever thought I would be.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

What else? What else do you think we should change? What do you think works? What do you think doesn't work?

[B]

I feel like I have thought about this and I have suggestions and then I forgot all of them just right now.

[A]

Cool. Sounds like you really care.

[B]

Yeah, I really, really care.

[A]

You're a piece of shit.

[B]

I know. I don't know. I feel like what we have going is like pretty good. Oh, I. Yes. This is something I've thought about a lot. Personally. For me, I like the old titles you used to do where it was episode number, guest name.

[A]

You talking about in the description.

[B]

Yeah. Or just the title itself because now you know the titles you do are like more descriptive of what the episode is.

[A]

So just save it that for the episode description.

[B]

Save that for the description and for me. And maybe this is just me being.

[A]

Yeah. What is it about that you don't like? Sometimes I just try to put like a little bit of a teaser up.

[B]

There of what it's going to be for me. And you know, again, maybe this is just like me being autistic. I really like everything to be the same template and it looks very nice to me.

[A]

Have you ever actually been diagnosed with autism?

[B]

No.

[A]

Okay, but are you a doctor?

[B]

No, I'm just saying that as a joke.

[A]

Okay. I feel like.

[B]

I don't actually think.

[A]

I feel like that's a serious joke for you. That it's an excuse that you use at other places in your life.

[B]

No.

[A]

Oh, sorry. The tism got me.

[B]

No, I say it as a joke because it's funny.

[A]

All right, good. Because you're not autistic.

[B]

I know, I know that.

[A]

I know that. Because you're not good enough at Jiu Jitsu. Because the best people in the world in Jiu Jitsu are clearly weapons grade fucking.

[B]

Yeah, yeah. Which is a joke you stole from me, by the way.

[A]

Okay. Which I probably. Yeah. Who knows where we got that from? There's anything ever unique that's been created and quite. No, probably recycling shit.

[B]

But I said that. And then. First of all, you don't laugh at my jokes on purpose. Sometimes I feel like they are so dumb sometimes. Yeah. But sometimes they're good. And I can sometimes not laughing.

[A]

Who?

[B]

They're good. What?

[A]

They're good to who?

[B]

You.

[A]

No.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

The reason I don't laugh at them is honestly, I'm embarrassed for you.

[B]

No, I have this one specific example. Remember last year we were hunting.

[A]

Hold the on. You have had this.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

Free rent kicking around in your head since last year.

[B]

Yeah. I honestly just forget about it. But we brought it up.

[A]

Clearly not. Clearly. Fire away, sir. What did I say to you last year?

[B]

So we were hunting, right?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And we were talking about something.

[A]

Everything.

[B]

Everything. Yeah. And. And I don't remember who came up. I was like, oh, that guy that seems like he has autism. And I was like, yeah, that's got. That's like weapons grade autism. And I looked at you and I was like, man, that seemed like Andy would laugh at that. I looked at you and you, like, had a little smirk, but you didn't laugh. And I was like, huh, okay. The day later, you're like talking about something and you're like, yeah, that's weapons grade autism. And I was like, you motherfucker. You just stole that from me. And you thought it was funny, obviously, otherwise you wouldn't have used it.

[A]

I have no recollection of that. And I am so happy that it's living rent free in your fucking head.

[B]

So, yeah, I feel like sometimes you purposely don't laugh at my jokes.

[A]

I mean, I have no recollection of that. But what I can guarantee is that your delivery was off.

[B]

No, no, it wasn't. It was perfect.

[A]

That's how I know it was off. Just listening to you say that, I know it was just a complete fuck show. Probably stuttered on the way out. We also have like, stay on track 20, 25.

[B]

Oh, yeah.

[A]

How can we make it better for the listener, viewer? We have some pretty cool guests coming up. I don't want to. I'm not going to tip my hand to anything. There's some cool stuff be working. What I can say is I'll be still going to be working with black, but a couple more brands as well. Changing the advertising format a bit.

[B]

Nice. Yeah, Yeah. I like the, like I was saying, the, the consistent title cards.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

Yeah. And I actually have talked to at least one person that said that they liked that consistent title cards better as well.

[A]

Okay. Yeah, that's easy.

[B]

Just some random guy listener, like.

[A]

So just some random guy. Thank you for that data point.

[B]

Yeah, you're welcome. Yeah, that's actually a pretty good data point.

[A]

It is good.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Because I listen to this stuff for sure.

[B]

Yeah. So that's like the one thing that I have been thought. I have thought about, how about from.

[A]

Here on out you can just do the thumbnail stuff and then that way it's exactly how you like it with your autistic brain.

[B]

I will do that. I've offered multiple times to do everything.

[A]

Yeah, but I just. I know you're not serious.

[B]

I am serious now. I would totally do that.

[A]

What else would you like to do? So right now you do the camera switching. Yes, I do the ad read. Obviously I can't outsource that because if I'm going to work with the brands, I want the listener or viewer to see me and hear my voice.

[B]

Yeah, absolutely.

[A]

And that's one of the change. I mean, I can talk about that. I guess one of the changes I'm going to make in 2025 is I'm going to actually take all the, like I upload to Libsyn as you know, because you've done it a few times. They have a monetization or advertising platform that I have no control over what ads they put in there. So we could be doing like with Chris Piotta, we could be doing an episode about the FBI and they could have, you know, where he's talking about the shift and change in culture and there literally might be an FBI ad for recruiting in that. So funny point me, I don't know. Not that that would necessarily be a bad thing, but I don't know. And like the money from it is. Is not. It's not non existent, but it's not meaningful, not significant.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And YouTube's the same way. I don't have any control over what advertisement they put in there. So I'm going to demonetize all of the platforms and just there's going to be two ads per episode. One in the beginning, one in the middle, and that's it. And it's all going to be my voice. It's going to be me. I just think that's better that way. They.

[B]

Yeah, I agree. That seems like a really good idea.

[A]

Standard template.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Beginning and maximum 60 seconds on both. Feel free to skip them if you want to. But like, that's one thing I've thought about to improve the experience for the user. Slash listener as well.

[B]

That seems like a good idea to me.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

You can do the thumbnails if you want to. I'm going to redo the. What the thumbnail looks like anyway and make it just a little bit cleaner. I'm working with a guy right now to redo some of the branding.

[B]

Nice.

[A]

Which will roll over into the soft goods and stuff as well too. So. Yeah, I mean, it's never ending.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

What else do you want to do that I don't let you do?

[B]

I mean, it's not that like I.

[A]

Can do switch for an episode and I can do the camera switching and.

[B]

You can interview the guest a really good idea, actually.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

No, just kidding. I actually don't like that idea.

[A]

That 100% means we're going to do it then. Especially if you don't like it.

[B]

Yeah. And I feel like that would just be completely not what the audience wants.

[A]

But maybe it's what they need.

[B]

Maybe.

[A]

I guess. All right, final thoughts. What do you have to close out for the holiday season? Christmas season. What do you want to say, Michael? You take us away.

[B]

Man. I don't really know. Have a good Christmas. Go listen to this after Christmas.

[A]

What'd you ask for for Christmas?

[B]

A camera. Yeah.

[A]

Cool.

[B]

Just a little starter camera. Nothing crazy, but it's about all you're qualified for. I know. That's why I asked for a starter camera.

[A]

Cool. All right. Until next time.

[B]

Merry Christmas.

[A]

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