Cleared Hot - Episode 375: Joel Struthers

Release Date: February 24, 2025

Hosts & Guests:

• Andy Stumpf: Host of Cleared Hot, a podcast exploring diverse experiences and challenging discussions.
• Joel Struthers: Guest, author of the book Appel, former member of the French Foreign Legion, and current helicopter pilot.

1. Introduction & Joel's Background

Andy Stumpf introduces Joel Struthers, highlighting Joel's diverse background, including his military service in the French Foreign Legion, experience as a helicopter pilot, and authorship of Appel. Joel brings firsthand insights into the selection and life within the Foreign Legion.

Notable Quote:

• Andy (00:00): “First person I've ever actually sat down with with individual, firsthand experience in the Foreign Legion.”

2. Understanding the French Foreign Legion

Joel provides an overview of the French Foreign Legion, its history, and its role within the French military. He explains the Legion's origins as a unit that allows foreigners to serve in the French military, offering them a chance at redemption and a new start.

Notable Quote:

• Joel (90:00): “Initially it was designed back in the 1800s by the king for... a chance to pay their penance.”

3. Life and Selection in the Legion

Joel recounts his journey into the Legion, detailing the rigorous selection process, training regimens, and the multicultural environment within the Legion. He emphasizes the discipline, physical challenges, and the emphasis on teamwork.

Notable Quotes:

• Joel (92:24): “There's the option to go out after four months, you know?”
• Andy (93:29): “That one there. No, down, down.”

4. Transition to Civilian Life and Aviation

After six years in the Legion, Joel decided to transition back to civilian life to pursue his passion for aviation. He discusses the challenges of moving from a structured military environment to the dynamic and demanding field of helicopter piloting.

Notable Quote:

• Joel (26:08): “I was married and didn't have a son yet. And my wife at the time was supportive of the whole idea.”

5. Helicopter Piloting: Challenges and Experiences

Joel delves into his experiences as a helicopter pilot, covering various aspects such as firefighting, heli-skiing, and the technical skills required. He shares anecdotes about the dangers of helicopter flying, the importance of discipline, and the continuous learning curve pilots face.

Notable Quotes:

• Joel (58:37): “But what you learn from obviously, and I think, I think attitude is a huge part...”
• Andy (60:42): “That was my first me inadvertent IMC.”

6. Reflections on Military and Civilian Overlap

The conversation shifts to comparing military operations with civilian aviation roles. Joel reflects on the similarities in discipline and decision-making required in both fields, highlighting how his military background has influenced his civilian career.

Notable Quote:

• Andy (102:22): “They are angrily saying, 'They're fucking spectacular operators.'”

7. Writing Appel and Public Perception

Joel discusses his motivation behind writing Appel, aiming to provide an authentic portrayal of his experiences in the Legion. He touches on the misconceptions surrounding the Legion and the importance of sharing truthful narratives to educate and inform others.

Notable Quotes:

• Joel (117:24): “Appel... it's a roll call. Every morning, the Legion, the whistle goes off and you, you count out.”
• Andy (141:15): “It's a weird relationship, having a podcast. People know more about you than you know about them.”

8. Future Aspirations and Closing Thoughts

Joel shares his future plans, including continuing his career in firefighting aviation and possibly retiring in northern France. He emphasizes the value of honesty, continuous improvement, and the lessons learned from both his military and civilian experiences.

Notable Quotes:

• Andy (147:34): “I have a Realtor looking, you know, Normandy area.”
• Joel (79:18): “It's a challenge, but it makes you a better pilot.”

9. Sponsor Message & Final Remarks

The episode briefly returns to sponsor messages, promoting BetterHelp as a resource for mental health support. Andy encourages listeners to invest in themselves and seek help when needed.

Notable Quote:

• Andy (74:23): “Visit betterhelp.com/clearedhot today and you're going to get 10% off your first month.”

Conclusion: In this episode of Cleared Hot, Joel Struthers provides an in-depth look into his experiences with the French Foreign Legion and his transition into helicopter piloting. The conversation offers valuable insights into the challenges of military life, the discipline required in aviation, and the importance of honest storytelling. Joel's reflections serve as a guide for those considering similar paths, emphasizing the need for preparation, resilience, and continuous learning.

Website and Further Resources:

• Joel Struthers' Book: Appel available on Amazon and Audible.
• Website: legionengineer.com for more information about Joel and his works.