Fake ManBoobs, Foreign Policy, and the Dildo of Consequence | Negligent Discharge Friday | 4.10.2026

Summary

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Host: Andy Stumpf
Episode Title: Fake ManBoobs, Foreign Policy, and the Dildo of Consequence | Negligent Discharge Friday | 4.10.2026
Date: April 10, 2026

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Episode Overview

This Negligent Discharge Friday episode combines Andy Stumpf’s signature irreverent humor with deep dives into recent political drama, military shakeups, social commentary, and a few off-the-wall tangents. Andy is joined by co-host Michael, and together they tackle everything from scandalous developments in U.S. politics (fake manboobs and all) to serious reflections on war, leadership, and justice. The tone swings between playful banter, dark comedy, and sober critique of current affairs and leadership failures.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

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1. Listener Mail & Gift Exchange

• Timestamp: 02:17–07:06
• Michael receives nunchaku from a fan ("Dave"), prompting jokes and mockery about self-defense and readiness. Andy questions Michael’s style and humor delivery ("Your style is like a pride flag in the wind" – Andy, 01:57).
• Michael gets a singlet as a prank gift. Andy teases using it for a Greg Anderson prank.
• Tone: Playful, self-deprecating, teasing.

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2. Scandal: Kristi Noem’s Husband’s Double Life

• Timestamp: 08:26–16:47
• The hosts react to the explosive news that South Dakota Governor Kristi Noem’s husband, Byron, was outed for cross-dressing online (under the alias “Jason Jackson”), engaging fetish models, and sparking a family crisis.
• Andy stresses that, while not judging kinks, the risk of blackmail for public figures is real.

  "If you want to wear women's thong on backwards with one of your beanbags blasting out each side and put on fake boobs, that's your call." – Andy, 08:51

• The hosts riff on human weirdness, the impossibility of truly knowing someone, and media schadenfreude.
• Notable line:

  "The dildo of consequences, Michael, oftentimes arrive unlubed." – Andy, 14:02

• The story prompts reflection on secrets, the risk for public officials, and the ironic immigrant link in the scandal's exposure.

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3. Trump’s Iran Statement & Foreign Policy Rant

• Timestamp: 16:55–28:24
• Trump’s alarming quote—“an entire civilization will die tonight”—posted before the Iran regime change, is dissected. The hosts react to its apocalyptic tone and question Trump’s commitment to de-escalation and protocols.

  "Either the office of the President of the United States means something and it carries with it some level of decorum, or it doesn't." – Andy, 19:03

• Discussion on the complications of distinguishing radicals from civilians in warfare, NATO’s Article 5, and allies’ obligations ("It is a defensive treaty. Correct." – Andy, 26:02).
• Cynicism about America’s endless wars and rhetorical disconnects from leaders ("We have to be in a war 100% of the time." – Michael, 19:49).

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4. Military Leadership Shakeups

• Timestamp: 29:01–34:44
• Coverage of recent firings/promotions blocks among U.S. generals and concerns about “purge optics.”
• Andy points out the military’s top-heavy leadership and expresses little concern about 12 generals being axed out of nearly 900.

  "The US military is incredibly top heavy…900 generals and admirals is more than enough…" – Andy, 31:31

• Q&A around what "Army Chief of Staff" actually commands; the importance of "why" behind firings.

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5. The Warehouse Fire – Desperation & Social Frayed Nerves

• Timestamp: 35:24–41:48
• Michael shares the viral story of a man torching a toilet paper warehouse on video, raging about economic disparity.
• Andy relates it to social drift, wealth gaps, and people being pushed towards “crazy shit” by a rigged system.

  "The more there is a gap…what it looks like is…just elevating the status of someone who already has more than they will ever have." – Andy, 00:00 & echoed at 38:28

• They riff on how artificial shortages (COVID toilet paper panic) are often caused by human overreaction.

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6. Bidet Tangent & Cultural Commentary

• Timestamp: 41:49–45:26
• Out of the warehouse fire story springs a discussion of Japanese bidets. Michael is an enthusiastic convert (“…it just…cleans you so much better. Like, it literally is spotless.”—Michael, 42:55).
• Andy jokes about kink, privacy, and adapting good habits from abroad.

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7. Media & Political Accountability: Bondi, Ballistics, and More

• Timestamp: 45:40–51:50
• Coverage of inconclusive forensics in the Charlie Kirk shooting: the importance of understanding legal language ("inconclusive" does not mean "doesn’t match").
• Pam Bondi’s firing is discussed, both as a symptom of administrative cronyism and as a consequence for failures related to the Epstein case.

  "The President wrote on Truth Social that Bondi would be transitioning to a much needed and important new job. In the private sector, I think what that means is you’re fucking fired." – Andy, 48:25

• Spirited debate on whether firing (and public opinion) is fair/too harsh for public figures.

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8. Sex Offender Accountability, Vigilantism, and Justice Gaps

• Timestamp: 52:18–64:04
• Reaction to Trump’s former spiritual advisor Robert Morris’s light sentence for child abuse—Andy fantasizes (darkly) about more severe justice.

  “If I were in charge of a legal system…the victim would be brought in… and you would lay out every implement that you could possibly want to kill the person.” – Andy, 55:56

• The “Alaskan Avenger” and the iconic father who killed his son’s abuser at the airport are recapped.
• Complex feelings about vigilantism, the failures of the legal system, and whether justice ever feels sufficient.

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9. How Change Happens: Top-Down vs. Ground-Up Ethics

• Timestamp: 65:06–70:17
• Michael and Andy ponder what real change in America now requires.
• Andy argues that top-down fixes (“elected officials”) no longer work; instead, entrepreneurs, business owners, and ordinary people setting local culture will be agents of change.

  “The culture at that store is not only my responsibility, but the manager’s… That’s how you make a cultural change.” – Andy, 67:13

• Conversation ends on a mix of hope and realism: “You have a 100% ability to impact the world around you…but it’s through the people that you know.” (Andy, 68:22)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On privacy and public figures:
  "Anything that you send or even put onto your phone, you have to act as if it will live forever..." – Andy, 09:02
• On coping with bizarre news:
  "Human beings are so weird and complex, and you actually probably really will never...even if you've been married to somebody for 50 years..." – Andy, 14:20
• On Trump’s rhetoric:
  "It is shocking to me to see somebody in the highest elected office in our country saying things like this..." – Andy, 18:55
• On systemic change:
  "If you stand on the beach and you scream at the ocean because you don’t want to get your feet wet but you don’t move...you’re gonna get your feet wet." – Andy, 70:14

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Timestamps for Major Segments

| Segment Description | Timestamp | |---------------------------------------------------|-----------------| | Banter & Listener Gifts / Nunchaku & Singlet | 02:17–07:06 | | Kristi Noem Husband Scandal | 08:26–16:47 | | Trump’s Iran/Foreign Policy Rant | 16:55–28:24 | | Military Shakeups / Generals Firing | 29:01–34:44 | | Toilet Paper Warehouse Fire & Social Commentary | 35:24–41:48 | | Bidets, Hoarding, and COVID Culture | 41:49–45:26 | | Ballistics/Charlie Kirk Case / Pam Bondi Firing | 45:40–51:50 | | Robert Morris Case / Child Predator Justice | 52:18–64:04 | | Vigilantism: Alaskan Avenger & Courtroom Shooting | 59:08–64:04 | | Top-Down vs. Ground-Up Change Discussion | 65:06–70:17 |

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Final Thoughts

This episode, while wrapped in Andy and Michael’s characteristic sarcasm and black humor, is a genuine microcosm of American unease in 2026: divided politics, crumbling trust in leadership, discomfort with justice, and the constant, sometimes hilarious, absurdity of modern life. If there’s a takeaway, it’s that influence begins at the smallest local and personal scale—"change the people that are around you"—and that facing uncomfortable truths is the only way forward, whether those truths are about fake manboobs or the state of the nation.

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For listeners new and old: This episode is a wild ride of laughs, groans, head-shakes, and the recurring reminder that, in Andy Stumpf’s world, absolutely nothing (and no one) is off-limits—except maybe the ads and any notion of political correctness.

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Transcript

[Andy]

The more there is a gap in distance between those that have and those that don't have and are working at their asses off to just try to make ends meet. And what it looks like is that everything that they're doing is just elevating the status of somebody who already has more than they will ever have.

[Michael]

Right.

[Andy]

The more you are pushing people towards doing crazy like this. And I'm not trying to justify this, but I also can tell you that I understand how this happens. Listen to the word again. Maybe there's a massive mental health issue there.

[Michael]

I'm sure that there is.

[Andy]

Listen to the words that the person is saying when he's lighting the fire and tell me that you don't have a portion of who you are that understands what he's saying. I'm not saying you have to agree with the actions. But you're telling me that you don't. At a. At a baseline human level, you can't say, yeah, yeah, I can see how you get there. Okay, I got the red smoke, West of the smoke. Okay, copy, west of the smoke. I'm looking at danger close now. Oh, wait a minute. Give it to me. I mean it. You're clear.

[Michael]

Hot.

[Andy]

Can't be cleared on.

[Michael]

All right, we are going. We are live 100.

[Andy]

Not live.

[Michael]

Nope. But it's just cool to say so to start this episode off.

[Andy]

First off, take a breath. You're already laughing. If you are gonna try to burn somebody, you need to get your shit together.

[Michael]

I'm not trying to burn anybody. What do you mean burn somebody?

[Andy]

If you want to, like, pull a funny haha on somebody, play a joke. If you start laughing before you sell it, much of the joke is lost.

[Michael]

Yeah, that's not really my style. I just keep laughing.

[Andy]

You don't have a style. All right? Your style is like a pride flag in the wind. It goes with whatever direction the wind is blowing.

[Michael]

Yeah, you got something against the pun intended?

[Andy]

No, I just was using something that I thought you would have an affinity and connection.

[Michael]

Affiliation. Yeah, for sure.

[Andy]

I didn't say affiliation. I said affinity.

[Michael]

So anyways, we had a. One of the. Our listeners reached out to me and

[Andy]

over what medium in case other people want to do so?

[Michael]

Instagram.

[Andy]

What's your Instagram user?

[Michael]

Michael Shelton 7. So yeah, if anybody else wants to send a fun little gift, just reach out. And he just decided since I have all these weapon

[Andy]

you really need to get your together today.

[Michael]

I have all these weapons. He decided you need to award.

[Andy]

How about this? Upgrade an arsenal.

[Michael]

You have an arsenal. Yeah. And actually he. I have two pairs now of nunchakos. Nunchaku. Yes.

[Andy]

Yeah. But that one has. Who gives you a pair of. Well, apparently connected nunchucks.

[Michael]

Apparently. According to the letter he sent. This is like how they actually connect come, I guess. And not with a chain. Like this is like a authentic Okanawa nunchucks. Apparently.

[Andy]

I'm not even going to pretend to be an authority on where nunchucks come from. Korea. And how.

[Michael]

Yeah.

[Andy]

So obviously now you have the ability to do one of your favorite things, which is double fisted, double fit.

[Michael]

Of course.

[Andy]

Yeah. But is that how you're going to practice? Are you going to train each hand independently? And then because you have to understand this, nunchucks are available to everybody, but not everybody is ready. They actually will self select because you will hit yourself in the face if you are not ready or capable of mastering their power.

[Michael]

Yeah. This Dave is his name. Also sent a letter and said to maybe start practicing with foam nunchucks first. I think that's a good idea.

[Andy]

Brought to you by firecrackerform. You want to talk about things that integrate into my life. This product right here might be one of the easier ad reads that I do. I am putting this hot salt on just about everything. And I'm being the first to tell you I don't understand the chemical reaction and how it's able to pull the flavors out of everything. I'm putting it on from eggs in the morning to avocado toast to steak, just about everything. I'm not a psychopath. I don't put it on fruit. I haven't tried that yet. I don't understand how it does it, how it pulls the flavors out, how it makes everything that I eat taste better. But it does. My recommendation to you is to head over to Firecracker Farm to check out what they have to offer because they have legitimately very spicy hot salts. But they also have new stuff like the vanilla heat flavor, which I'm pretty sure Alex's daughter had the idea for. They sent me some. It has been my absolute go to. And then everything in between is going to come in these stainless steel push button grinders. All you got to do is drive the plunger down with your thumb and you can control how much. I don't have a crazy heat tolerance, so I'll generally use one or two pumps, but you can go as insane as you may like. So you can get them on firecracker.com or we actually sell these in the coffee shop here locally in Kalispell. Or if you live somewhere that has a black rifle, coffee, you can get them in store as well. Alex and his family are creating these products together at their small family farm. So this is your opportunity to really level up your seasoning game, but also support the American dream. For a family that is all in on this and they're doing it together. So it's an amazing opportunity. The best way to do so probably for most people, head over to Firecracker Farm, check out what they have to offer. I would suggest the Vanilla Heat. You won't regret it. Back to the show. Okay.

[Michael]

Yes. So anyways, if you want to open

[Andy]

your gift, where'd you have him mail it?

[Michael]

To the coffee shop.

[Andy]

Oh, so now the coffee shop is your personal mailbox, huh?

[Michael]

Yep. I told.

[Andy]

I'll be mailing you a few things then too.

[Michael]

Anyways.

[Andy]

Oh, nice. Okay, what do we have here?

[Michael]

Just unfold it for the camera.

[Andy]

Clearly you've already opened this, which.

[Michael]

Yeah, I did.

[Andy]

Oh, yes. A singlet. Greg Anderson is so screwed. When he comes back, what I'll do is I'll tell him I have to go to the bathroom and then I'll

[Michael]

come back to do the podcast wearing the singlet.

[Andy]

The singlet.

[Michael]

Yeah. So anyways, thanks to Dave who reached out and said that he thought that would be a funny gift, and I agreed. So now you own a singlet and I own.

[Andy]

Are you pleased with yourself?

[Michael]

Yeah, kind of.

[Andy]

Do you feel like rate this evolution on a 1 to 10? 1 being a preschooler eating paste could do this. 10 being you are, I don't know, like Elon Musk putting geosynchronous satellites into

[Michael]

orbit, like a 3. It wasn't difficult, but I just thought it would be humorous, you know?

[Andy]

Okay. I hope that for you it sparked joy.

[Michael]

It did spark a little bit of joy. I also want to clarify. I did almost none of the work. It was almost all.

[Andy]

The one who got it here provided addresses.

[Michael]

That's true. It was a logistical nightmare.

[Andy]

Yeah, I'm sure it was arduous. We all have our cross to bear, Michael. I'm glad that you were able to survive such an arduous journey.

[Michael]

You're welcome.

[Andy]

What do you have for this week? It's not like anything is going on in the world, so it's going to be shit.

[Michael]

Okay, we're going to start with a one that I find just truly hilarious.

[Andy]

Okay.

[Michael]

And you, I'm sure that you have seen this. Oh, let me find the correct picture. Husband.

[Andy]

Again, you're laughing before it Comes up, you're really putting the cart in front of the horse. On how you deliver a funny. Haha.

[Michael]

Okay, I'm gonna pull it up, make sure it's so the audience can see this. Oh, you've seen this?

[Andy]

Yeah, listen, I saw that this happened. I did no additional research as to what was going on. Okay. For those of you who are audio only for the next few minutes, that actually might be a benefit. So scroll up a little bit so I can at least read the title there.

[Michael]

Yeah.

[Andy]

Christy Gnome's husband, Byron, has been living a double life. Cross dressing with fake breasts. Listen, listen, I'm not going to tell anybody how to live their life, okay?

[Michael]

Yes.

[Andy]

People don't believe me when I say that I don't care what you do as long as you're not preying upon other people. And generally, I really don't care.

[Michael]

Yeah.

[Andy]

Like, if this is what gets your rocks off. Right.

[Michael]

Yeah. Go for it.

[Andy]

If you want to wear women's thong on backwards with one of your beanbags blasting out each side and put on fake boobs, that's your call.

[Michael]

Yeah.

[Andy]

If your wife happens to be the head of DHS for a short period of time, and I'm going to be real honest, I'm really glad that she is no longer the head of dhs.

[Michael]

Yeah.

[Andy]

If your wife is in that level of public role, and correct me if I'm wrong, a woman came forward and said, hey, your husband's been not. Not hey to, like, Ms. Gnome.

[Michael]

Yeah.

[Andy]

But probably to the reporter that was willing to pay the highest amount for this story or break the story. Like, I don't know if you'd be interested in, I don't know, $20,000 worth of credit card transactions and communication back and forth, because here's old Mr. Byron Gnome.

[Michael]

Yeah.

[Andy]

What the. Then again, I don't care. Like, whatever gets your rocks off. But how in the world that we live in. It's something I've told my kids since they were asking about having electronic devices. Anything that you send or even put onto your phone, you have to act as if it will live forever. And then it. One day you will be at a job interview that maybe you really want for your future job, and they slide something across the table and they say, hey, by the way, nice tits.

[Michael]

Yeah.

[Andy]

In this situation. Right.

[Michael]

Yeah.

[Andy]

Somebody said that to my daughter. Somebody said that to my daughter. I would immediately go beat the lymph instead of them.

[Michael]

Yeah, that would be an issue. What.

[Andy]

What else have you found? Christy Gnome is devastated over her husband's Double life. Yeah, that's probably a tough imagine.

[Michael]

I can imagine.

[Andy]

Okay. Several individuals have come forward with allegations and details regarding a secret online life led by Byron Gnome. What a weird collection of words, by the way. Not that the names are weird, but it's just a weird collection. The husband, a former Department of Homeland Security secretary in South Dakota, Governor Christy Noemi. Based on reports from late March and early April 2026. Webcam fetish models. At least three models involved in the bimbofication fetish scene, which I don't know what that is, but I told the Daily Mall or Daily Mail that Byron Gnome used a pseudonym. Jason Jackson. Not bad. That's not bad. Yeah.

[Michael]

Jason Jackson.

[Andy]

Jason Jack, Double J, if you will, to engage in online chats where he wore women's clothing and fake breasts. Nicole Ragno. Sorry if I said your name wrong. A model known as Plastic Trophy Bimbo. My God. Told the Daily Mail and other outlets that she had a virtual relationship with Byron for several years, claiming he paid her thousands of dollars, showered her with gifts, and asked her to marry him even after his wife was ousted from dhs. There's some claims of insider knowledge. The Daily Mail reported that Byron allegedly told one model in a message, I know there's nothing I can't. I can do about it. Regarding rumors of his wife's alleged affair with advisor Corey Lewandowski. I didn't know about that. Also don't care. Source of the leak. According to Axios reporter Mark Caputo, the initial tip regarding this double life may have come from an immigrant sex worker acting in retribution for DHS policies. Get some. According to a New York Daily News report, Kristi Noem's representative stated in late March 2026 that the family was devastated and blindsided by the revelations. Asking for privacy. While Byron Gnome did not deny the photos and messages when contacted by the Daily Mail, he did deny that his actions put his wife at risk of blackmail. Well, that last sentence is a real tough one. Yeah, I'm not sure how you would think. I mean, blackmail, the way I look at it, is essentially leverage. Maybe it's financial, maybe it's personal. Whatever it is, an embarrassment, a threat to your public Persona or your. Your significant other's public Persona. Yeah, dude. I think. I think putting on some women's clothing and fake boobs and engaging in whatever he was doing online puts you in a really bad spot and definitely gives some people some leverage.

[Michael]

Yeah.

[Andy]

But maybe if that's what you're into, you have a hard time realizing the consequences of Said actions.

[Michael]

Yeah.

[Andy]

Let me ask you this.

[Michael]

Yeah.

[Andy]

Let's say she was amazing at her job, and instead of being fired, she, like, everybody, like, she had, like, a 99% approval rating and this came out. Would you care?

[Michael]

No. I mean, I would still think it's funny.

[Andy]

I would use the word weird. But again, I'm not here to judge. I think it's weird. Some of the things I like doing, like wingsuit base jumping, a lot of other people think are weird.

[Michael]

Yeah.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Michael]

But I think it's even more humorous because she was not very good at her job. And it's ironic because an immigrant is the one that exposed the whole thing.

[Andy]

Allegedly.

[Michael]

Allegedly. Yes. Yes.

[Andy]

The dildo of consequences, Michael, oftentimes arrive unlubbed.

[Michael]

I think this is one of the rare instances where that is a literal. You can take that statement literally.

[Andy]

Pun intended.

[Michael]

Yeah. So, yeah, that's.

[Andy]

You know what this. Do you know what this reminds me of, though? It reminds me that is put together as people that you don't know in the world and that you'll never have access to, may portray themselves to be as perfect and whatever it is. Human beings are so weird and complex, and you actually probably really will never. Even if you've been married to somebody for 50 years, I guarantee you that there is something.

[Michael]

Yeah.

[Andy]

That they aren't. You know what I mean? Like, human beings are just wild, man. Yeah, they're wild.

[Michael]

Yeah. Case in point. This is so insane.

[Andy]

What do you get out of throwing on fake breasts and doing video calls?

[Michael]

I have no clue. And, like, that part like that just. It doesn't bother me at all that he's doing that. Like, whatever. Yeah. I. And I don't think it should matter for your job because unless you're doing it at work. What's that?

[Andy]

Unless you're doing it at work.

[Michael]

Yeah. Then that's an issue.

[Andy]

Like, if I walked in here and you were doing that, we would have a relatively uncomfortable conversation about your future here at Andy Stump Industries. If you were doing that in your off time and somebody exposed you. Not that anybody would care about either you or I. Yeah. I would not give a. Yeah. And I would never let you live it down. I would harass you incessantly.

[Michael]

Yes. Yes.

[Andy]

At every inappropriate opportunity and we'd be just fine.

[Michael]

Of course. Yeah. But especially for Christie. I don't think it matters at her. I mean, obviously nobody knew about this, so that's kind of a big deal.

[Andy]

Really. Where do you hide a fake set of tits? Honey, don't go into my Bowling bag.

[Michael]

Yeah, those are bowling balls. They're bowling ball sized.

[Andy]

Can you imagine the efforts that would have to take place to legitimately try to hide that? I mean, you. Were you really hiding. Yeah. Well. And where are you doing the calls from? How are you not. I'm not saying that, you know, that she have no idea the demands of the job that she had, but I mean, it's not. I don't feel like he's walking around the house facetiming doing this, you know, I mean, so there's some extra effort involved in that as well.

[Michael]

Giddy up, giddy up. Yeah. But anyways, I thought we'd start off with a pretty humorous.

[Andy]

Because I guess it's humorous unless your last name is Gnome.

[Michael]

That's. Yeah, that's true. Yeah. Yeah. Usually we start off with some more.

[Andy]

I mean, we'll get to it. Like I said, there's not even really much going on this week, so.

[Michael]

No, no, not at all. Speaking of more downtrodden news, let me find the quote. Oh, here we go. Now, this obviously has kind of been walked back with things that have happened after this, but Trump's quote of a civilization will die tonight. Yeah.

[Andy]

Never to be brought back again. I don't want that to happen, but it probably will. The President wrote on Truth Social. However, now that we have complete and total regime change where different, smarter and less radicalized minds prevail, maybe something revolutionarily wonderful can happen. Who knows? We will find out tonight. He adds, I believe he also ended it with God bless the Iranian people.

[Michael]

Something like that. Yeah.

[Andy]

So open with an entire civilization is going to be annihilated tonight. Closed it with God bless the Iranian people. Very conflicting messaging.

[Michael]

Very conflicting. Yeah.

[Andy]

Okay. I thought that we were involved in Iran to prevent them from getting nuclear material. And we could add to that a caveat, regime change. So the President of the United States is claiming. Claiming that we have total regime change. So that should be a metric of. For exiting this conflict. One of them marked off if the other one was the denying them the ability to create nuclear fission material one. I thought that's what we struck for last summer, which I believe we could probably find quotes from the same administration saying we have what. I don't even know what flower obliterated. Whatever flowery, excessive adjectives involved in whatever. And so that was now, apparently. So that was either not true then or it's not true now.

[Michael]

Right.

[Andy]

One of those things. It is shocking to me, personal opinion, which is all it counts for. It is shocking to me to See somebody in the highest elected office in our country saying things like this.

[Michael]

Yes.

[Andy]

And then other people justifying it by saying, well, that's just the way that he negotiates. Dude. Either the office of the President of the United States means something and it carries with it some level of decorum, or it doesn't.

[Michael]

Right.

[Andy]

And there were a lot of people saying that this goes to, like a nuclear strike. I don't. I. First off, I don't understand what he's saying.

[Michael]

No.

[Andy]

And I don't know what he means when he says this.

[Michael]

Right.

[Andy]

So I'm not gonna. I'm not gonna sit here and claim that actually, that I know anything. I could talk about how I feel and stuff like that, but I don't understand a campaign run on ending wars and not getting into new ones. Wtf.

[Michael]

Yeah.

[Andy]

Is going on right now.

[Michael]

Well.

[Andy]

And are you ready to enlist in the military, Michael, because you are a prime age. We need you fighting somewhere.

[Michael]

Yes. We have to be in a war 100% of the time. Every single.

[Andy]

But I thought no more wars. Yeah.

[Michael]

It's interesting. It is really interesting.

[Andy]

Technically, we're not at war. Don't worry. We're just using the authorized use of military force without congressional oversight.

[Michael]

This isn't a war, guys. Come on. This isn't a war. No. So the word genocide gets thrown around a whole lot. Yeah. And I think it's overused. However, saying a whole civilization will die, that, to me, becomes pretty close to the definition of genocide.

[Andy]

Well, if you take action on it, for sure.

[Michael]

Yes. Which is what I'm saying. An American president is calling for essentially the genocide of a whole people. I mean, how many people are in live in Iran?

[Andy]

Millions.

[Michael]

Yeah. And it's just like.

[Andy]

I'm sure he would say, let's. I'll try to be. I'll try to play devil's advocate here. I'm sure he would say what I meant was the. The radicals or those still attached to the regime. Okay. How are you going to kill all of them and only all of them? Have you never seen how warfare is conducted? So even giving you the most gracious understanding of your statement, which, for clarity, I'm not sure that's what he meant. I'm just trying to play devil's advocate.

[Michael]

Yep.

[Andy]

How are you going to do that? Innocent people have already died in Iran, and that is the consequence of taking actions associated with war or actions of war. It is not black and white. It is not a scalpel. Mistakes are made. Military intelligence is not 100% perfect. Accuracy is not 100% perfect. So how are you going to. And an entire civilization assuming again, playing devil's advocate that you only meant to radicalize people who would thrive on chanting death to America. What do you have? Do you have like some movie level red button that you can push that you have injected or. And somehow spray it upon only those people that are evil and only they are going to die? Like, how do you do this? Why do you talk like this?

[Michael]

I don't know. I mean, like, obviously he has a history of saying inflammatory things.

[Andy]

What makes you say that?

[Michael]

Yeah, but this, to me, I mean, it's just a whole. It's. It's a next step up. Obviously he's not acting on this. Thank God.

[Andy]

What do you think he would have done? Because supposedly it was an 8pm deadline Eastern time, which I wonder if he took daylight savings into account for that. I mean, what clock are we going off of fucking Zulu clock here? Greenwich Mean Time? I mean, come on, what do you think he would have done?

[Michael]

It's very hard to say because he is just. Is so unpredictable.

[Andy]

I don't know the man at all, but I feel like him saving face is one of the most important things to him. So I feel like it would have backed him into a corner and he would have done something, but I don't know what that is.

[Michael]

Yeah. Which is like. That's a scary thought. You know, if we have the head of our country, the head of the most powerful military in the world is doing something catastrophic because he doesn't want to look like an idiot.

[Andy]

That's problematic.

[Michael]

Problematic.

[Andy]

You're looking for.

[Michael]

Yeah, like the consequences of that. Of what? Just thinking about what could happen from him not wanting to look bad and just putting millions of lives at risk.

[Andy]

It's just complete and total regime change, really. Like we're gonna make that claim.

[Michael]

Yeah.

[Andy]

It is probably time to start packing it up then.

[Michael]

Yeah. And also is that even true because they just installed. Basically the same guy. You know, it's a different person.

[Andy]

But the places where the US could probably broadly be seen as successful with regime change would be Japan and Europe and maybe some involvement in Korea. Guess where we still have troops five and six decades later.

[Michael]

Right.

[Andy]

All of those places that I just mentioned. So is that the level of involvement that we are prepared to undertake here in Iran? Yeah, because I think that's the only way a change is going to be permanent.

[Michael]

Yeah.

[Andy]

I mean, dude, I'm at a loss. I do not know.

[Michael]

I think so. I mean, I think that's where so many people are of just like, what the are we doing?

[Andy]

Have you seen the video? And I realize this might be considered by some to be insensitive, but I

[Michael]

love

[Andy]

sometimes these people who go out into crowds and they interview people who are at events.

[Michael]

Yeah, yeah.

[Andy]

And it's this man talking to a woman. He's like, don't you think it's a little bigoted that we're only worried about the Straits of Hormuz? What about the gaze of Hormuz? And she's like, I know,

[Michael]

yes. My, My mom just brought that up to me the other day. I was like, oh, my God, that's so. So, yeah. Regardless of, like, what you think of the situation, that is, the ignorance there is so hilarious.

[Andy]

Oh, man. Again, human beings are wild. I don't know where it leads. You know, he's, He's. There's a. There are substantial issues with NATO. I mean, whether you talk about how much GDP each country is supposed to put in, like, there's a lot of issues with NATO. Don't get me wrong. There's plenty of complaints. I don't think a lot of people understand specifically what Article 5 is inside of the NATO charter. That is essentially, and I'm paraphrasing, you can pull it up if you want. If one NATO country is attacked, all others will come to their aid. It says nothing about offensive operations.

[Michael]

Right.

[Andy]

Yeah. So a lot of people are complaining about the lack of assistance that we're getting from NATO, but in this situation, they are under no obligation. Yeah, they're under no obligation to support an offensive action.

[Michael]

It's a defensive treaty.

[Andy]

It is a defensive treaty. Correct. And I think that's forgotten. Sometimes it would benefit people a little bit to just read what the charter actually is. And like I said, there's plenty of complaints I have about NATO as about who's carrying the lion's share of the load and all those things. And all those things should be addressed. But it's interesting to see some people like, you know, these people in these.

[Michael]

Out.

[Andy]

Where were you? You know, why aren't you involved in this? It's like, they don't. They don't have to be. This is.

[Michael]

There's no reason for them to get involved in this.

[Andy]

It's at least a choice. And they are not violating the NATO charter in any way, shape or form.

[Michael]

Yeah.

[Andy]

By being hesitant or denying the usage of airspace.

[Michael]

Yeah. So no, I, Yeah, it's. There's.

[Andy]

May not like it, but they're inside of the letter of the Treaty.

[Michael]

Yeah. And I do not blame them at all for not wanting to get involved in this. This. I mean, to me it seems like a useless war. Sorry, Use of military author. What is it?

[Andy]

Aumf. Authorized use of military force.

[Michael]

Yeah, sorry. Not a war. But yeah, let's. Speaking of like NATO contributions, like the US obviously is the massive lion share. Yeah. Huge amount of, you know, which I, I don't know, I don't think it's necessarily a bad thing. But also I think other countries could be pulling their weight a little bit more.

[Andy]

Yeah. I mean, look, so NATO, total defense spending in 2025, the US 980 billion. The next one is Germany, 93.7 billion.

[Michael]

So what's a 10 times.

[Andy]

Yeah. And then the UK 90.5 billion. You know, again, there are, there's a lot of things that, that could rightfully be complained about and we should have those conversations. Like, okay, if the NATO treaty isn't working the way that we want it to, how about instead of wiping our ass with it, let's sit down and, and figure out something.

[Michael]

Yeah.

[Andy]

That can work. And then if countries don't want to make those decisions, if they either think that they can't or don't want to, then that can lead to a different conversation. Like, okay, then put your own fucking britches on. Right. Yeah, but let's have the conversation because they don't want to join you in an optional offensive action. Take it easy. Right. Let's keep the cart behind the horse instead of in front of it.

[Michael]

Yeah. And these are our allies, by the way. Like, we should be able to sit down with our allies and say, hey, let's restructure this a little bit so we are, you know, having to contribute most of the resources. Yeah.

[Andy]

This is for your generation to fix, Michael.

[Michael]

It is, unfortunately.

[Andy]

What are you going to do about it? Great plan, Real good plan.

[Michael]

Probably threaten to destroy a civilization.

[Andy]

Nobody's going to believe you if you say that. You're just a ginger headed fuck.

[Michael]

That is true.

[Andy]

Actually, can we throw some tape on the bridge of your glasses? Like a little strip of white tape?

[Michael]

I almost had to do that because both of the little, you know, the little pads that hold them on your nose.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Michael]

They both fell off and so now they continue to slide down. Yeah.

[Andy]

Get a new pair of glasses.

[Michael]

I will. I just haven't gotten to it, so.

[Andy]

Okay.

[Michael]

Yes. Next thing, kind of along the same vein, what was it? 12 Generals have been fired?

[Andy]

Yeah, I think so. I. Fired. I think they were on the. Some have been fired. I think some of them were on an advancement list, which I'm not necessarily sure. They release a list from my understanding of people who are going to be advanced in the next cycle. And I believe that Hegseth pulled some of them off. He did fire some, yeah. But I think it was a combination of firing and then and blocking the advancement of others. Let me see here. As retired early, fired in the Purge, fired in late August. So here's the thing. The US military is incredibly top heavy. Google how many admirals and generals are in the US military currently? Is brought to you by AG1. Well, guess what, we're into February. How many of you are still just jamming on on your New Year's resolutions? I think the the data shows that most people are done with them by about 21 or even 14 days. I've talked about this man for well over a year. My goal to dial in the macro and micro, but oftentimes the micro elements of my hydration and supplementation game. And this is where AG1 comes in. I use it in the morning to hydrate and it helps me dial in all the micronutrients that I honestly just don't pay attention to. AG1 is the opposite of complexity. It takes about 20 seconds. One scoop boom into the water in the morning. Eight ounces is what I go with. You're done drinking it first thing in the morning before my coffee helps with my hydration, before I even check my phone. And boom. That microhabit helps anchor me throughout the remainder of the day. They've added a new next gen formula with more vitamins and minerals than ever clinically proven to fill the common nutritional gaps. Plus daily energy support powered by superfoods and B vitamins to help you avoid that winter slump and immune system support from antioxidants, probiotics and functional mushrooms to help you stay your best this winter. AG1 has over 50,000 verified 5 star reviews and comes with a 90 day money back guarantee for a limited time only. Go to drink ag1.com ClearedHot to get a free AG1 flavor sampler. That's how you can check out their flavors and AGZ Sampler which is their evening drink to try all the flavors plus free vitamin D3 plus K2 and AG1 welcome kit with your first AG1 subscription order. This is a limited time offer only available while supplies last. That's drinkag1.com ClearedHot Drink ag1.com Cleared Hot back to the show.

[Michael]

850 to 900.

[Andy]

Okay, so does this provide a Little bit better context as to the impact or lack thereof potentially for getting rid of some people.

[Michael]

Yes.

[Andy]

So the optic on this could be viewed poorly.

[Michael]

Right.

[Andy]

Because there could be the lens of a discriminatory action. It could be a gender thing, a race thing, it could be a disagreement thing. I don't know if any of those things had anything to do with the disability decision, but I know that 900 Generals and Admirals is more than enough to suffice for the needs of the Department of Defense. I'd say it's probably a little bit bloated and I'm sure maybe the enlisted side of the house at that E9 level is bloated as well too. There's just only so many leadership positions.

[Michael]

Yeah.

[Andy]

So 12 people being removed. Again, the optic and timing may look a little bit off and maybe it is off. I just don't have the data to support that. But removing 12 people does not concern me in any way, shape or form. The military might have a net positive benefit from that. Actually,

[Michael]

this is a legitimate question. I'm not trying to play devil's advocate is because I. Is, is Army Chief of Staff, is that like in charge of all the ground forces?

[Andy]

I would Google that actually, Army Chief

[Michael]

of Staff because I have heard that he got rid of the one that was in control of all of the ground forces.

[Andy]

Google what, Google what is, what is the role and responsibility of Army Chief of Staff. I wasn't in the army, so this is a little bit. I'm a little bit out in the front of my skis on this one. I know this is probably a four

[Michael]

star, the highest ranking officer assigned to serve in the tower Army. The chief is the principal military advisor and the deputy Secretary of the.

[Andy]

So he sounds like he's more like an advisor than somebody in tactical command.

[Michael]

Yeah.

[Andy]

Look at you just typing over there. I can hear it. Hopeful listeners.

[Michael]

I know they can. So okay, so the Army Chief of Staff Randy George was forced out. But I don't know if that's the. Anyways, I had heard that the ground forces commander got fired. Is that, would you say that under the same umbrella as what you were saying?

[Andy]

So ground force commander could be all the way down to somebody at my level. Lieutenant. Right. Because if you're talking about an element on the ground, there is a senior person there that is the ground force commander. Then there are battlespace commanders, then there are theater commanders. There's like a Pacific Fleet. You know what I mean? Like in the Navy fleet level commanders. I don't know though. Even on the Navy side of the House who, like a fleet commander would report to. But the term ground force commander could be titrated all the way down to a dude with his boots on the ground.

[Michael]

Gotcha.

[Andy]

So that's probably not the right term to use.

[Michael]

Yeah.

[Andy]

I think you're talking about more like a strategic leader. Like the person who maybe would be in charge of the troops in the Middle East.

[Michael]

Yeah, yeah.

[Andy]

What was the question associated with that?

[Michael]

Because you were saying that, oh, maybe they got fired because. Just. Because they were just getting rid of some leadership.

[Andy]

Could be.

[Michael]

Would you. Would your opinion still be the same if it was the person who would be in charge of sending troops into Iran?

[Andy]

The why would matter to me. Yeah, I would need to understand the why. Yeah, I mean, that's really the crux of it. Are you doing it because they have a disagreement and you feel like they may not do what you tell them to do, or are they legitimately underperforming at their job?

[Michael]

Yeah.

[Andy]

And you have multiple people who could probably do a better job, who are younger, a different look on the military and their capability. Like, you know what I mean? The why really matters.

[Michael]

Yeah, yeah. Because like, obviously the narrative on the anti Trump side is like, oh, they're getting rid of them because they won't accept or they were refusing orders to go under, whatever.

[Andy]

And like narratives are true.

[Michael]

Yeah. Who knows what?

[Andy]

Not all narratives are false also. I. I do not know.

[Michael]

I don't know either. Yeah, I had one pulled up already. Oh, did you see the employee that burned down a warehouse?

[Andy]

I'm sorry, come again?

[Michael]

Okay, good.

[Andy]

What sector of business was this in?

[Michael]

It was like a toilet paper warehouse

[Andy]

that's gonna burn like a. So this is like disgruntled action.

[Michael]

Yeah, so. And he. So the stupidest thing.

[Andy]

You got to be careful pissing in people's Cheerios, man. Sometimes they'll burn your warehouse down.

[Michael]

So what's funny is he videoed himself doing this.

[Andy]

Strong.

[Michael]

Very strong.

[Andy]

That's strong when it comes to really being the Jason Bourne of pyromania.

[Michael]

Yeah. So let me pull this up here.

[Andy]

Oh my God.

[Michael]

Dude, isn't this crazy?

[Andy]

Okay, for. Again, for the audio only, this is a. A news reporter standing in front of. I'm going to call that like a 150 inch TV. The warehouse spans the entire thing.

[Michael]

It is insanely huge.

[Andy]

New developments this morning in this warehouse fire that started yesterday in Ontario. It's a story today in LA has been on top of. I was going to say Canada or la.

[Michael]

Yeah.

[Andy]

And now new video has surfaced.

[Michael]

Oops.

[Andy]

Apparently posted by the man accused of arson. Yes, NBC4's Lauren Cornado has been on this since the fire started.

[Michael]

Okay, I just want to see the video.

[Andy]

Yeah, just show me the guy. Oh, Go, Michael. Stop it. Up. Go to him. Light it. Enough to live, or afford to live. At least pay us enough not to do this.

[Michael]

Oh,

[Andy]

Shocking video posted to social. Where's the fire suppression system? Pallets and pallets of paper.

[Michael]

Yeah, that's actually a good question.

[Andy]

Paper. Wipe these paper towels. On fire within the Kimberly Clark warehouse here in Ontario overnight Tuesday. Our team spoke with a worker who says he was with the man. Man in the video just about 10 minutes right before that fire started.

[Michael]

I'm glad I just met him.

[Andy]

The two hours I was working with

[Michael]

him, I didn't see this coming.

[Andy]

All right, hit pause. I get it.

[Michael]

Yeah. Dude, isn't that crazy?

[Andy]

It's insane. But I tell you what, I mean, I've said this before too, like the elites or the cabal or whatever it is. If they're. If they're legitimately. I'm not saying that there isn't. I fall back into again. I just. I don't know how structured this could possibly be or coordinated. Maybe it is, maybe it's not. The more there is a gap in distance between those that have and those that don't have and are working their asses off to just try to make ends meet. And what it looks like is that everything that they're doing is just elevating the status of somebody who already has more than they will ever have. Right. The more you are pushing people towards doing crazy like this, and I'm not trying to justify this, but I also can tell you that I understand how this happens. Listen to the word again. Maybe there's a massive mental health issue there.

[Michael]

I'm sure that there is.

[Andy]

Listen to the words that the person is saying when he's lighting the fire and tell me that you don't have a portion of who you are that understands what he's saying. I'm not saying you have to agree with the actions, but you have to telling me that you don't. At a. At a baseline human level, you can't say, yeah, yeah, I. I can see how you get there. Maybe don't go there, but I can see how you get there.

[Michael]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. So it, like, obviously this is such a stupid thing to do. I mean, this guy is just going to. He's going to get so much prison time for this.

[Andy]

But he just. No, dude, he'll be like, there's AI.

[Michael]

Yeah, exactly.

[Andy]

But in the modern era, I think that could be the end all catch all for like, like. Oh no, no, that wasn't me, that was AI. Yeah.

[Michael]

But yeah, I mean, I, I understand the sentiment to a degree, I guess, but this is just.

[Andy]

It's a leap. I mean, I'm not saying there, there is a huge leap there between feeling that way and lighting somebody's warehouse full of paper on fire, which. Where was the fire suppression system.

[Michael]

That building too. Like that nothing went off. It didn't seem like the spring.

[Andy]

Well, he also, there was, there was a very large jump between a few rolls of toilet paper on fire and then what? The lady was standing in front. Really? See how this progressed.

[Michael]

Yeah. Maybe it did go off.

[Andy]

And I would imagine the fire suppression system has to have a minimum threshold that has to be met because otherwise that's another way to ruin your toilet paper too, is to just douse it in water.

[Michael]

Yeah.

[Andy]

You know what I mean? Right. So if like there wasn't a fire threshold is too low would be a problem.

[Michael]

That's actually funny. Yeah. Either way.

[Andy]

Wow. You would think it would be somewhere before the entire building burned to the point where the roof collapsed and then just the infrastructure or the, the skeleton of the building was left behind. My God.

[Michael]

Yeah. That's so insane. So insane. Who knows? Maybe you'll come in one day and I'm trying to light fire to the. To our brand new studio.

[Andy]

I mean, you and I could have a conversation about what's bothering you before that happens, you know?

[Michael]

Well, that's the other thing too. There's so many steps between, oh yeah, I'm not getting paid enough to. Okay, I'm burning down.

[Andy]

There are several steps.

[Michael]

Yeah.

[Andy]

And again, try to be playing devil's advocate benefit of the doubt. That guy probably had horrendous stuff going on in his life.

[Michael]

Right.

[Andy]

But I bet a lot of it didn't have anything directly to do with that. But that day, that guy might have been caught on the worst day of his life right there.

[Michael]

Yeah.

[Andy]

And took an action that he'll regret for the rest of his life. From a prison cell.

[Michael]

Yeah. Yeah, for sure.

[Andy]

Will there be a toilet paper shortage is the question.

[Michael]

I don't think.

[Andy]

I don't think LA's got a lot of butts.

[Michael]

That's true. They do have a lot of butts. But also they survived the COVID the great Covid toilet paper shortage.

[Andy]

Yeah, we all did.

[Michael]

Yeah.

[Andy]

So I think you know what was hilarious?

[Michael]

What?

[Andy]

So after that, people were trying to sell toilet paper back to the vendors

[Michael]

that they bought it from for pennies on the dollar. Probably.

[Andy]

Probably. And I don't think any of them took it back. There never was a shortage. Because if people would have just purchased a reasonable amount of toilet paper, there's enough for everybody. But people are going to Costco and loading up. It's just like. I mean, year. I mean, you probably could work your way through it, obviously, but I mean, years worth of it. Which created an artificial storage or a store not shortage.

[Michael]

Shortage.

[Andy]

Yeah. That then freaked other people out, which created even more of an artificial shortage. And then there legitimately was one because people were so nerded out.

[Michael]

People were, yeah.

[Andy]

And then at the end, they're trying

[Michael]

to sell toilet paper anyways. Yeah. Well, also, you've said this before, but why toilet paper? Like, that's the stupidest thing to hoard. Because you can't really.

[Andy]

What? In Japan.

[Michael]

Oh, yeah. Because of the bidets.

[Andy]

Yeah. Did you enjoy that? Did you use the bidet, Michael?

[Michael]

I did. I. Not the public ones, but the ones in my.

[Andy]

Here's a question for you. How does it know where to aim?

[Michael]

I think, well, you have to adjust a little bit. I think they have like.

[Andy]

That was on your lower end one. I feel like some of those are automatic, maybe.

[Michael]

But yeah, the ones I use, you had to adjust yourself.

[Andy]

I feel like somewhere in the big bidet, you know, Conglomerate. Yeah, Cabal.

[Michael]

Cabal.

[Andy]

There's a couple terabytes of footage of

[Michael]

people's, I would imagine.

[Andy]

Also, why did you like the bidet?

[Michael]

Because it just. It cleans you so much better. Like, it literally is spotless.

[Andy]

How did you check?

[Michael]

Well, you still have to use toilet paper after to dry yourself off.

[Andy]

Why haven't you gotten one for here in the US Then if it was so enjoyable?

[Michael]

I actually am going to get one because it is actually very. Okay, think about this.

[Andy]

Hot or cold water, Lukewarm, High pressure, Medium or low?

[Michael]

I'm more of a medium kind of guy. Okay, okay. No, but think about this. For people that are like, you know, poo, pooing bidets.

[Andy]

Pun intended.

[Michael]

Pun intended. If you got shit anywhere else on your body, would you just wipe it off?

[Andy]

Yes.

[Michael]

And you wouldn't wash it.

[Andy]

Why? I wiped it off.

[Michael]

Okay, well, you are not a prime

[Andy]

bidet customer, then just let me be contrarian. Whatever you were gonna ask me, I was gonna give you the answer that

[Michael]

was the opposite of what you were looking for. But no, you would wash with soap. Like, at least use water. So why is your butt any different?

[Andy]

I don't know.

[Michael]

Well, it isn't. So go get a potato.

[Andy]

I feel like it was just something that you enjoyed. It was a surprise. It was a new kink for you. That's what I feel like it was. And now your neighbors are like, why does he have a garden hose going through the window of his bathroom? And he's taking two hour shits. You're in there with a noose around your neck, like over the shower curtain and like a western belt buckle on. With a homemade bidet.

[Michael]

Homemade?

[Andy]

Yeah, Cowboy boots and spurs.

[Michael]

If I was going that far, I would get a real bidet.

[Andy]

That's fair. Yeah. You're more committed than that. Yeah, I'm not a. I mean. Cool. Do you? Do you?

[Michael]

I will. I will. To me.

[Andy]

I know.

[Michael]

Quite literally.

[Andy]

Is your mom proud of these episodes? She doesn't listen, does she?

[Michael]

Well, she likes these. Well, like is a strong word for these ones. She listens to them and then she usually texts me and it's like, why did you guys talk about that?

[Andy]

We don't know what we're going to talk about. Who knows where the conversation is? We just went from a massive toilet paper fire, a crisis, if you will, in the eastern Los Angeles area, to an existential conversation about bidets. I mean, this. To me, one naturally leads to the other.

[Michael]

I would actually agree. This is probably the most natural progression of a conversation, actually.

[Andy]

I like that. I can support that. Sorry. Michael's mom. Yeah, I'm still taking him BASE jumping. One day.

[Michael]

One day. We'll get there. Yeah. Okay. Charlie Kirk's suspected killer's bullet. Inconclusive result if it was actually the caliber of the rifle he used.

[Andy]

So at least you used the correct verbiage. Because a lot of people took that verbiage and said they bullet doesn't match.

[Michael]

Right.

[Andy]

Which inconclusive does not mean that the bullet doesn't match. It means that they were unable to determine whether or not it does or it doesn't. And sometimes that's what happens with what you have left from the bullets.

[Michael]

Yeah.

[Andy]

Could this be viewed through an horribly conspiratorial lens? 100%. Could it be viewed through a lens that is not conspiratorial and it just is what it is? They were not exactly as it said. Again. What verbatim is the headline. Okay.

[Michael]

An inconclusive result.

[Andy]

Yeah. What? An inconclusive result means let's. What does it say here? Unable to identify the Bullet recovered at autopsy to the rifle allegedly tied to Mr. Robinson. Scroll down a little bit. Okay, so skip the social media. Okay. In parentheses here in the article, several paragraphs down. So nobody's going to make it this far because it's the headline that gets. When the results of a bullet fragment analysis come back as inconclusive, that does not mean that the rifle did not fire the bullet. Christopher Ballot, a spokesman for the Utah County Attorney's office and part of the prosecution team, wrote in an email to Paul PolitiFact. Yeah, PolitiFact. There just aren't enough marks on the fragment to make a conclusive one way or the other as to whether or not the bullet fragment was fired by the particular rifle. That actually. Although that is from the prosecution. Right. So they have a little bit of incentive for it to match. Even they are saying. Yeah, it's, it's. It doesn't mean that all of a sudden that this is thrown out. It doesn't mean you have to spin this into Israel flew in a Mosad assassin and shot over his shoulder.

[Michael]

Yeah.

[Andy]

You know, it's like. It just means that what they had left from an evidentiary perspective, they were not able to replicate or match to the rifle. It does not mean that it didn't come from the rifle. It also doesn't mean that it does. We are squarely back in the territory of. I don't know.

[Michael]

Right. Yeah. And I can imagine a bullet gets pretty mangled when it goes through something sometimes.

[Andy]

Yeah, sometimes.

[Michael]

Which would make it even more difficult, you know, Grant. Or given the inconclusive result. Yeah, I can see right there.

[Andy]

This is not the first time that this has happened. This will not be the last time that it happens. Forensics is an amazing thing. It's an evolving science, but they have to work with what they have.

[Michael]

Yeah.

[Andy]

So,

[Michael]

okay, so another big firing of Pam Bondi.

[Andy]

Yes. Which is weird because The Dow's at 50,000.

[Michael]

Yeah, I would. I mean, to me, that would mean she's doing a great job. Yep. I mean, there's. Well, the. The big thing that also comes from this is I've heard now she will not be testifying on the Epstein files because she's no longer Attorney General.

[Andy]

I hadn't really thought about that, but I suppose that's possible, too. Again, could be viewed through a conspiratorial lens, or could it just be corollary to what's going on? The President wrote on Truth Social that Bondi would be transitioning to a much needed and important new job. In the private sector, I think what that means is you're fucking fired. Not impressed with her in the role that she held. Not impressed with her in the way that she conducted herself. I hope the next person does better. Yeah.

[Michael]

I have absolutely zero sympathy for her. I am.

[Andy]

Well, it's just because you're a callous and shallow human being.

[Michael]

That's true. It is true. Yeah. I'm not a fan of her at all. And I'm kind of glad she's fired, actually.

[Andy]

You can be not a fan of somebody, even hate them, and still have sympathy for what happens in their life.

[Michael]

Yeah, but I don't really have sympathy.

[Andy]

Do you have sympathy for Kristi Noem and the fact that her husband has bigger tits than she does?

[Michael]

I actually kind of do have sympathy for Kristi Noem, especially if she genuinely didn't know anything about this.

[Andy]

Like, what do you think the odds are she generally didn't know?

[Michael]

Oh, man. 70%.

[Andy]

That's a big 30.

[Michael]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Andy]

She might have been, like, just like starting a lawnmower. Just pull starting pool cue balls out of his on the regular. You know what I mean? Just full, like, full arm extension to, like, up over the top of the shoulder.

[Michael]

Like. Yeah, that's cool.

[Andy]

That's what's happening in that 30% or.

[Michael]

I don't want to think about that.

[Andy]

Or also maybe not.

[Michael]

Yeah, you know what? 70% chance that that's not happening at all. I like those odds better.

[Andy]

I could not believe when Pam Bondi was sitting there providing testimony and mentioned the Dow and didn't stop what was happening. When the survivors raised their hand and talked and talked about never being interviewed, it's just like, stop it for five minutes.

[Michael]

Yeah.

[Andy]

And go assign somebody that works for you. Like, at the minimum, go get their contact information. Like, this is. This is. Well, that's execution and conduction. You know, conduct of a job 101. This is not hard.

[Michael]

Yeah, that. That is why I do not have sympathy empathy for her. Because just. Yeah. I just don't think she's a good person in my opinion.

[Andy]

How much do you actually know about her? And for clarity, I know very little about her, so I'm not claiming that I'm an expert.

[Michael]

Yeah, no, hate's a strong word. I don't say I hate her. I just said I don't have any sympathy for her in this job.

[Andy]

Okay.

[Michael]

And that she got fired.

[Andy]

You said she's not a good person.

[Michael]

Yeah, I mean, that is definitely judging her from her actions that she broadcasts out to the American people that she has to. Because she's the attorney or was the Attorney General.

[Andy]

Would you like to be judged only by your mistakes in life?

[Michael]

No. But also, I don't know if she considers those mistakes.

[Andy]

I think the rest of us can kind of fill in the blank on that one. As to whether or not they're a mistake or not.

[Michael]

Yeah, I think they're a mistake.

[Andy]

Point is, nobody's perfect.

[Michael]

No.

[Andy]

And I. And I would hope that people don't judge me only on the mistakes that I have made. However, I'm not Attorney General, neither are you. So I understand that the. The lens and the optic is a little bit different. People aren't perfect, man. And the reason I ask you is it's really easy to say, hey, I think she's a horrible person. Neither you or I actually know much about her. You know what I mean?

[Michael]

Yeah.

[Andy]

Maybe she just wasn't qualified for the job.

[Michael]

Yeah, maybe not, you know, but she was still in that position.

[Andy]

And still, I'm not saying she's not responsible and accountable for her actions, the conduct of her behavior. Just saying. It's so easy to flippantly say, oh, she's not a good person, and I am as guilty of this as anybody else. Then you ask yourself the question, like, what do I actually know about this person? Oh, Jack. And is the answer, yeah, yeah.

[Michael]

I mean that. Yeah, that is true. But I'm not going to take back what I said.

[Andy]

Nobody's asking you to.

[Michael]

Okay, good. Because I wasn't going to.

[Andy]

Yeah, I know. Your convictions are very deeply held.

[Michael]

I understand. Yeah. Okay. Oh, have you seen this stuff about Trump's former spiritual advisor?

[Andy]

What?

[Michael]

Okay.

[Andy]

Yeah, I was not aware that Trump had a spiritual advisor.

[Michael]

I was not either.

[Andy]

Who is your spiritual advisor?

[Michael]

Who probably.

[Andy]

Is there a job?

[Michael]

Probably Vaughn.

[Andy]

I was gonna say, if there's a job opening, I would like to submit an application.

[Michael]

Well, I think there will be a job opening soon. With

[Andy]

out of his mind. Okay. No, I was not aware of anything. Fuck you, CNN. We're not paying $70 a year for whatever it is that you're trying to sell us.

[Michael]

Yeah, let's see. So while I. While I research this. Jesus.

[Andy]

Easy. We're talking about a spiritual advisor. Don't call down wrath upon you.

[Michael]

He, if I'm remembering correctly, molested a child.

[Andy]

What?

[Michael]

Yeah. Here we go. And it was out of jail in six months.

[Andy]

Robert Morris, a former evangelical spiritual advisor to Donald Trump and founder of the Dallas based Gateway megachurch, pleaded guilty to child sexual abuse charges in October 2025. Here are the key details based on reports from the late 2025 and early 2026. Guilty plea and charges. On October 2, 2025, Morris, who is 64, pleaded guilty to five felony counts of lewd or indecent acts with a child in Osage County District Court, Oklahoma. The charges stem from the abuse of a 12 year old girl now identified as. I'm going to leave the name out of it. In the 1980s, even though she's an adult, despite facing a potential 10 year sentence. First off, how is five felony counts against a 12 year old only a 10 year sentence? How about that's the opener. Yeah, we're going to open with 10 years and add a zero. Yeah, we'll just add a zero to that. And by the way, we're not adding, we're multiplying.

[Michael]

Yeah.

[Andy]

A plea deal resulted in a 10 year suspended sentence with only 6 months to be served in county jail. Reports indicate he was released in jail. So this actually has nothing to probably to do with intervention. This has to do with a plea deal. As part of the plea agreement, Morris is required to register as a sex offender, pay 250,000 in restitution and serve time on probation. He served on the 2016 campaign evangelical advisory Board and was a vocal supporter of Donald Trump. Oh, it is my understanding that she would have likely had to agree to the plea deal. I think that's how that works.

[Michael]

The victim.

[Andy]

Yes, and I'm not here. I mean, again, God, there's no, there's no good outcomes in that situation. Even him dying in prison is not going to bring back whatever he took from her. Who am I to judge whether or not she was okay with that or not?

[Michael]

Apparently, and this is just AI overview, a victim does not have to agree to a plea deal.

[Andy]

Okay. Even worse for the victim then how, if that's the case and let's go. Let's operate under the assumption that that's the case. How could there be any level of feeling of vindication from a victim or a feeling that justice has been served in any way?

[Michael]

Six months, like what?

[Andy]

This. I mean to me, if I were in charge of a legal system.

[Michael]

Yeah, let's hear it.

[Andy]

The person, when they pled guilty, especially to something like this, they'd be walked up to the, the little booth that you testify from and then the victim would be brought in on a table about this size and you would lay out every implement that you could possibly want to kill the person.

[Michael]

Yeah.

[Andy]

And maybe in this situation, I think like a Close range with a sawed off shotgun. Starting off to the junk. A shot to the junk first would be a good opener. And then you could transition to potato like you want to again. I don't know if that would necessarily make anybody feel like justice has been served as well. And obviously I'm talking tongue in cheek here, but that would make me feel a hell of a lot better if a predator like that had that happened. Then write a check for a quarter million bucks which I bet you he took out of the, the church's purse anyway, which was tax free. Megachurch purse didn't round off error. Probably based off what they have in there.

[Michael]

Yeah.

[Andy]

And. Oh cool. He's got to go register as a SEC defender. Okay, well I bet you he'll go live on his multi million dollar compound somewhere where he doesn't have to go out and interface. He'll have everything brought to him.

[Michael]

So he basically got off scot free like

[Andy]

there. You know, the camera is not normally I'm sitting in the other chair right now. I'm looking across at the incredibly sharp Montana knife company daggers that sit behind me, which to this day I fear that one will fall off the magnet. I'll hear the thump as the handle hits the ledge and it'll be flying towards the back of my neck on camera. Except the magnets are really good.

[Michael]

Mike.

[Andy]

Mike did a good job. The guy who installed it. I hate predators.

[Michael]

Yeah, I would. I think everybody does. Unless you're a predator.

[Andy]

Let me get in a room with this dude with a couple of those. Just not even a couple, just one.

[Michael]

You only need one.

[Andy]

To be honest with you, I don't even need one.

[Michael]

No, it'd be okay. You just need you.

[Andy]

God.

[Michael]

But yeah.

[Andy]

This is why I could never work in law enforcement. I would, I would be the one ending up in on trial. Yeah, I, I, I, I, I don't know how they do it.

[Michael]

Well, this is just a failure of justice as well. Like, and there are so many examples of this where it's like, oh, you know, guy molested a kid for 10 years. Oh, he gets five years in jail. Like what? I just don't understand it.

[Andy]

I don't understand why it's tolerated. Do you pulled up the video one time, right, of the guy who was pretending to be on the payphone and then smoked the dude right in the ear as he was walking away.

[Michael]

I've seen that video a lot.

[Andy]

High five. Cheers to that, man.

[Michael]

It's a good one. And I think he actually got off because the judge Deemed him not a threat to anybody else.

[Andy]

He's a threat to one guy.

[Michael]

Yeah, to one person.

[Andy]

Right in the old ear. I think he went with like a snub nose.357.

[Michael]

Yeah.

[Andy]

Quality choice for a pocket pistol. You know what I mean? Get your head out of the gutter. Not that pocket pistol. That's your pocket rocket, as hobby would call it. Yes. Jody, wasn't there also a guy in Alaska who went to prison for. For killing pedophiles?

[Michael]

Yes. Yeah, I've heard about this. And his.

[Andy]

He was smiling the entire time.

[Michael]

Brother was abused, I think.

[Andy]

Yes.

[Michael]

And so he can't. Yeah, let me see if I can find that.

[Andy]

Yeah. And again, I'm not trying to give anybody ideas. I'm just saying as a human being. I get it. I get it.

[Michael]

Yeah. Jason was the Alaskan guy, right?

[Andy]

They had a nick.

[Michael]

The Alaskan avenger.

[Andy]

Double A.

[Michael]

Double A. Yeah. Gets prison.

[Andy]

I believe he's out now, actually.

[Michael]

Yeah. Let me see. Pull up a article here.

[Andy]

Pedophile hunter who sought justice gets prison for assaulting sex offenders in Alaska. I believe in prison, he continued his journey.

[Michael]

That's amazing.

[Andy]

What do we got? 23 years in prison for assault. And man attacked three registered SEC offenders in Alaska and called himself an avenging angel. Seeking justice. Was sent Monday to 23s in prison for assault and robbery charges. Interesting. Pled guilty to one assault, one robbery charge. Eligible to apply for parole once he served six years. Okay. Yeah. He said in court he was physically and sexually abused by his stepfather while growing up, which fueled his anger towards sex offenders. Yeah.

[Michael]

No, Yeah, I can see.

[Andy]

Takes full responsibility for his actions. Scroll up. He said the 43 year old assaulted three men he found on the state's online sex offender registry in June 2016. During a five day period, one of the victims was struck with a hammer, knocking him unconscious, while the others had items such as a laptop and truck stolen from them. Interesting combination of activities. The men he attacked were complying with law. It was not the purpose of the registry to allow people to do their own brand of justice. Yeah, no kidding. Oh, man. I get. I mean, again, I get it.

[Michael]

Yeah. No, I. I completely understand that sentiment.

[Andy]

But also, who is the pocket pistol man? Mr. Oh, Mr. Phone bank.

[Michael]

Jody Foush. I think Foosh. No, maybe that was the victim.

[Andy]

I know you've pulled this video before.

[Michael]

Oh, I have, yeah. Yeah. I don't even know what to look up.

[Andy]

I would look up. Father shoots sex offender in court killing of Jeffrey Doucet.

[Michael]

Yes. Here we Go.

[Andy]

Because I believe it was the father.

[Michael]

Yeah. And he kidnapped. I'll pull this up while I look for the video. Yep. But he kidnapped the Guy's son.

[Andy]

In 84, Duquette was flown back to Louisiana to face trial. So he was the perpetrator. He arrived at Baton Rouge Metropolitan Airport and was led in handcuffs by police officers to the airport around 9:30pm oh, it was in the airport.

[Michael]

Yeah.

[Andy]

Baller. An employee of the local ABC affiliate, had told PL when Duquette would be arriving. Oh, that's. So he told the father when the guy was gonna be arrived. A news crew was there. Had set up their cameras to record his arrival. Opposite the news crew was a bank of payphones where Plush plowshe.

[Michael]

Sorry. Sure. How to pronounce.

[Andy]

Yeah, I'm not either. Waited while talking to his best friend on a telephone with his back turned. He wore a baseball cap and a sunglasses as disguise so that no one would see and recognize him. He tracked the reflection of the camera lights on the wall as they panned towards him. Recording Duquette. Baller.

[Michael]

Baller. Move.

[Andy]

Didn't need to turn around. Saw where he was or determined where he was because the light. Go. I'm reading, you son of bitch.

[Michael]

Sorry. Sorry.

[Andy]

God. We'll get to the video.

[Michael]

You like the video more.

[Andy]

He passed the news crew where they were taping and then walked past Plaus, who fired at the right side of Duquette's head. At close range. It was a very close range. Yes. He fell to the floor, bleeding from a wound near his right ear. Yeah, that's. That's what happens. Placed the telephone receiver down before a police officer restrained him and removed the gun from his hand. Uh, the officers who grabbed him recognized him. They kept him pinned against the bank of telephones, asking him why. Why? I think that is a. What's called a rhetorical question. He fell into a coma where he rushed into the hospital, and then he died the next day. Okay. Aftermath. He was plush. Was initially charged with second degree murder, but agreed to a plea bargain, which he pleaded no contest to manslaughter. He was sentenced to a seven year suspended sentence with five years probation and 300 more hours of community service, which he completed in 89.

[Michael]

Okay, so we did have to serve some time.

[Andy]

At 67, he gave an interview where he said he did not regret killing Duquette and would do so again. Yeah. Let me see. Where's he going now? Oh, he died. Damn. Suffered a stroke in 2011. After having another stroke in 2014 and nursing him. He died at the age of 68.

[Michael]

Okay, video time.

[Andy]

Okay.

[Michael]

I'm not sure if this will get us demonetized. Do you care?

[Andy]

Leave it on your face as we watch it. Okay. Yeah, it probably would get us a lot more than demonetized, which I don't care about the monetization. Hello? Hold on, I'll be right back.

[Michael]

Boom. Yeah,

[Andy]

I mean, I tell you what, he didn't take a whole lot of time to aim and there was a police officer right on the other side. Yeah, that dude is actually pretty lucky he didn't smoke kakan.

[Michael]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Andy]

Also, bullets don't always stop in the person that you are shooting, so. Yeah, dude.

[Michael]

What caliber did it say? Do you know what?

[Andy]

It didn't say. There's a pocket pistol. That's all you need to know. They come in a variety of calibers.

[Michael]

Indeed.

[Andy]

How long we been at it?

[Michael]

An hour.

[Andy]

I mean, the world's not ready for more than an hour.

[Michael]

No. This is the perfect time.

[Andy]

Jenn, you'd like to close it with. On this day of complete sanity. And nothing is unrestful in American society.

[Michael]

Oh, man.

[Andy]

Are you hopeful? You think we can make it through?

[Michael]

I. Well, I. Yes, I'm hopeful about the midterms. I am.

[Andy]

Do you really think that elected officials are the answer to this? Do you think our system is capable of. Of course, correcting from a top down approach,

[Michael]

meaning from elections? I don't know. Because it seems like a lot of checks and balances have not been working.

[Andy]

Yeah, I don't think it is going to be a top down approach anymore.

[Michael]

Yeah.

[Andy]

So what does that leave us? Is a good question.

[Michael]

I don't know. Yeah, that's kind of a scary thought.

[Andy]

It's not scary at all. You know the reason why it's scary?

[Michael]

Why?

[Andy]

Because you are going to have to do something about it.

[Michael]

Yeah, I guess. And if it. The thing is, it's. I. I don't know.

[Andy]

By the way, I'm not saying wait at a bank of pay phones as the lights pan by. You okay? We're talking about other things at this point.

[Michael]

Yeah.

[Andy]

Let me guess. You feel like there's nothing you can do.

[Michael]

Oh, yeah. That is exactly what I feel like. Yeah.

[Andy]

In politics, you're right.

[Michael]

Yeah.

[Andy]

What about where you and I live? So I'm stealing this from Andy Frisella because we talked about it on his show.

[Michael]

Yeah.

[Andy]

We got to this point where we were talking about the US and his thoughts are that entrepreneurs are the way that we are going to save this country because they get to set the Culture of the businesses and they have direct touch points with people who can impact everyday life and society. And I was thinking about that. I employ almost 40 people at the coffee shop at relatively young ages in their journey. Right. They're super malleable. They'll listen, they respond to examples that are provided for them. There's a reason I'm at the shop almost every day. There's a reason I'll go clean the bathroom or empty the garbage or when they're busy, I'll do all this stuff behind the scenes. First off, the main reason for that is I don't know how to fucking make the drinks. Right. And nobody. I can make a latte. All right, like take it easy. Let's not. We don't have to celebrate that part. The latte art. No, you're getting none of that because I don't know how to do that said I can make the drink, not the fucking art.

[Michael]

Yeah.

[Andy]

But they will see me doing those things without asking to be do. Asking to or being need needed to being told to do so. Because I am trying to show them that you should always be looking for work and things that can be done. You don't need to wait to be told to do something because you can look around and you can solve issues on your own. I invest in the people at the shop. I don't take a dime out of that shop. All the money goes back into it. I pay them as much as I possibly can. I try to retain people to the highest level that we possibly can. I'd reward them at the 6 month mark and the 12 month mark when they're there at the store. The culture at that store is not only my responsibility, but the manager's responsibility. And it has impact because it's first job for a lot of people. It was the first job for all three of my kids, essentially. That's how you make a cultural change. Yeah, you have a 100% ability to impact the world around you. But it's through the people that you know. It's through where we live. It's through getting involved, mentor somebody, teach somebody. You can do this. It's tough though. And you're not going to see the impact for a long time. But I don't think at this point in time we're going to change from the top down because it seems to be two wings of the same fucking bird.

[Michael]

Absolutely, dude. Like everybody's just in it for themselves.

[Andy]

Everybody in that system is.

[Michael]

Yeah. Oh yeah. That's what I mean.

[Andy]

So you know what though? Those people.

[Michael]

Yeah, they suck.

[Andy]

Change the people that are around you. Tell your brother, drink more milk so his bones stop breaking. And your other brother needs to drink milk too, because his teeth keep falling.

[Michael]

Grow his teeth. Yeah, yeah.

[Andy]

You're not going to grow his teeth. Okay. He needs to get fake tee fees.

[Michael]

Yeah.

[Andy]

That is legitimately. At first, you know, when Frisella was talking about that, I was like, son of a. I had never thought about owning a business in that way. But, dude, I get to set the culture at the store.

[Michael]

Mm.

[Andy]

And I think that is an incredible privilege and burden because it can have impact. It's a long term impact. Because I don't think the politicians care anymore.

[Michael]

No, I don't think. I think maybe some of the younger ones coming up will.

[Andy]

Unless they're corrupted by the same system.

[Michael]

Well, yeah, exactly. And that's. I mean, kind of the question. Is it like chicken or the egg? Are they attracted because they want power or does the power corrupt them?

[Andy]

Who even cares anymore?

[Michael]

Yeah. I mean, you know. Yeah. I don't know. But something needs to change for sure. Because we, if not like, genuinely, we, are on the fast track to losing our country.

[Andy]

We're not going to lose the country. We're going to be okay. I don't know. It's. It's going to be rough. I think we might get some tires right up to the edge. We might. If a cop was following us, you know, the tires might touch the. The mustard and the mayonnaise once or twice. They might think we're a little faced.

[Michael]

Yeah.

[Andy]

But we're gonna get home okay.

[Michael]

I hope so. Yeah, we will hope so. Perfect.

[Andy]

And the. And the worst that the political system gets, I think the answer is you more. The more you dive into places you actually have impact. Because if you stand out on the beach and you scream at the ocean because you don't want to get your feet wet but you don't move, guess what's going to happen? You're gonna get your feet wet.

[Michael]

Yeah. Don't get your feet wet.

[Andy]

Or do.

[Michael]

Yes.

[Andy]

Know what I'm saying?

[Michael]

Yeah. Not really, but I'm just gonna agree.

[Andy]

I don't even know either.

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