Full Auto Friday - 9/5/2025

Summary

Cleared Hot: Full Auto Friday – September 5, 2025

Episode Overview

In this lively, candid episode of Full Auto Friday, host Andy Stumpf welcomes regular sidekick Michael to break down everything from podcast technical mishaps to martial arts philosophy, AI dangers, tribal warfare, and some eye-opening news. The theme? Exploring discomfort, seeking growth, and never shying away from hard or weird conversations. The episode is full of humor and real talk—unfiltered, self-deprecating, and occasionally philosophical.

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Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. Podcast Recording Disaster & Technical Lessons

Timestamps: 01:12–08:46

• Michael recounts how a botched attempt at voice acting led to him accidentally muting the main microphones before a Q&A episode—spoiling audio from multiple questions.

• The hosts dissect the chain of errors, rib each other about attention to detail, and riff on Michael’s voice acting ambitions.

• Andy shows a forgiving, humorous take:

  “Honestly, I wasn't pissed about it. I just—I don't get too fired up about much. I was like, whatever, dude. We'll figure it out.” (08:03)

• Discussion leads into the dynamics of their working relationship, with Andy poking fun at Michael, and Michael owning his mistakes.

2. Jiu Jitsu: "Real" vs "Sport" and Weapons Training

Timestamps: 11:18–25:00

• Listener question sparks an in-depth discussion on the dichotomy between modern "sport" jiu jitsu (e.g., pulling guard, inverting, butt-scooting) and "real" or combative application (e.g., self-defense, law enforcement, weapons integration).

• They break down the value, risks, and techniques of training with realistic clothing and training weapons.

• Andy advises on safety regarding training guns:

  “If your training gun has sights on the top of it, shave them off ... those things have metal sights that will cut you like a knife.” (14:06)

• Both emphasize the importance of "training how you fight," but also enjoying jiu jitsu for the social and sporting aspects.

• Notable quote on frustration with new jiu jitsu styles:

  “If you've never been buggy choked by a child, you're not living life appropriately. … It's really frustrating what just happened. I don't like that. I hate you. I might be quitting Jiu Jitsu.” (22:11)

• Closing recommendation: Master the fundamentals, then layer on "fancy stuff"—but don’t get discouraged by new trends.

3. Military "Relaxed Grooming Standards" Explained

Timestamps: 25:14–31:08

• Michael asks why some special operations units can grow out hair/beards.
• Andy details "relaxed grooming standards":

  “The reason as it was described to me ... is that it slightly reduces your military-esque signature.” (26:29)

• It’s not universally applied; rooted in decreasing overt military presence, sometimes cultural adaptation (e.g., in Afghanistan, beards are the norm for respect).
• Debunks online misinformation about beards as intimidation:

  “That answer might be based a little bit more in theater than anything else.” (31:21)

4. AI Chatbot Tragedy & The Broader AI Crisis

Timestamps: 31:53–40:17

• A disturbing news story: A former Yahoo exec allegedly becomes convinced by a chatbot that his mother is a spy, then kills her and himself.

• They examine the dangers of AI chatbots for those struggling with mental health:

  “If somebody is plagued with mental health issues ... and you start being unable to parse what's real and what's not—but you have this thing ... it really talks back to you like a person.” (39:48)

• Discussion of AI’s lack of sentience but ability to reflect and amplify online negativity, with a healthy skepticism toward tech optimism.

• Referenced Terminator and Ready Player One as analogies for technology run amok.

5. AI and Robotics—From Chatbots to Badminton Dogs

Timestamps: 40:22–44:20

• Michael brings up an AI-powered robot dog that can play badminton, highlighting the transition from digital to physical machine learning.
• Andy remains unimpressed (“That’s not impressive”), noting that controlling physical objects is incremental compared to truly creative human tasks, but acknowledges steady progress:

  “Five years from now ... maybe they soften us by showing us little things like this. And then they hit us with a good one.” (44:20)

6. Tribal Warfare: YouTube Rabbit Holes & History

Timestamps: 45:05–50:16

• The duo watches and comments on a YouTube documentary of 1960s tribal warfare—with little clothing, "peen sticks," spears, and arrows.

• They marvel at how raw and primal these fights are:

  “This is like a direct view into history of how all humans fought, like, I don't know, 10,000 years ago.” (46:46)

• Andy draws parallels with modern war (“no peen sticks” in the SEALs), and they humorously ponder the role of “peen sticks."

• The randomness of YouTube’s algorithm and video recommendations is playfully analyzed.

7. Extreme Sports: BASE Jumping Gone Wrong

Timestamps: 51:03–54:24

• Michael mentions Dwayne Weston, a BASE jumper who died striking a bridge while wingsuiting—Andy shares context from Jeb Corliss’s retelling.
• Details the razor-thin margins and dangers of wingsuit BASE:

  “Super high consequence, man. There's not a lot of margin for error in that particular activity.” (54:01)

8. News Reaction: Child Killed for Ding Dong Ditching

Timestamps: 54:36–57:51

• Michael recounts a grim news story: a U.S. Army vet shoots and kills a child for remote doorbell pranking.
• Andy is unequivocal:

  “Two kids running away from you and you shoot one of them in the back. No, you're done.” (55:57)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Rolling with Weapons:
  “T-shirts are gnarly. I don't know if you've ever been choked by a shirt ... Holy cow, dude. It is gnarly.” – Andy (18:25)

• On "Real" Jiu Jitsu:
  “If your goal is to win a tournament, then yeah, it's real Jiu Jitsu. If your goal is to survive in a street encounter ... it becomes a little bit less viable as an option.” – Andy (20:33)

• On AI Mimicry:
  “It's just a new form of that same kind of delusion, but even more powerful because it can mimic a human so well that you think you're having a human connection.” – Michael (39:00)

• On Primal Violence:
  “Not a cell phone in sight. Just people living in the moment. Algorithm. Give him that. Trust me, he'll watch anything.” – Andy (49:21, reading YouTube comments)

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Episode Timeline (Timestamps of Key Segments)

• 01:12–08:46 – Recording error story, Michael’s voice acting mishap
• 11:18–25:00 – Jiu jitsu philosophies, weapons training, martial arts progression
• 25:14–31:08 – Special operations grooming standards, separating myth and fact
• 31:53–40:17 – ChatGPT/murder-suicide story, AI’s risks, societal implications
• 40:22–44:20 – AI robot dog, incremental advances in robotics and perception
• 45:05–50:16 – Watching tribal warfare, reflecting on human history and violence
• 51:03–54:24 – BASE jumping fatality story, high-stakes extreme sports analysis
• 54:36–57:51 – Ding dong ditch shooting, societal commentary

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Tone & Style

• Humorous, irreverent, and honest: Listeners can count on self-deprecation, no-BS realism, and a willingness to tackle serious subjects head-on—but always with a sly dose of sarcasm or outright laughter.
• Conversational and relatable: Even technical or martial arts topics are explained accessibly, jargon demystified, and nothing is sacred.
• Philosophical undercurrent: Whether it’s facing danger, confronting personal mistakes, or filtering misinformation, themes of growth, self-awareness, and "seeking discomfort" recur.

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For New Listeners

This episode shows why Cleared Hot stands out—Andy and Michael turn mistakes into laughs, bring nuance to martial arts discourse, probe the ethics of technology, and aren’t afraid to get raw when the news gets dark. Whether you’re here for stories of SEAL Team mishaps, martial arts wisdom, podcasting shenanigans, or just real talk about the modern world, there’s something to take away.

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Until next time—don’t be afraid to mess up, get uncomfortable, and laugh about it.

Transcript

[Michael]

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[Host]

Okay, I got the red smoke. Sun runs north to south. West of the smoke.

[Michael]

West of the smoke.

[Host]

Okay, copy.

[Michael]

West of the smoke.

[Host]

I'm looking at danger close now. Come on with it, baby.

[Michael]

Give it to me. I mean it.

[Host]

You're cleared hot. Can't be cleared hot.

[Michael]

All right, we're. We're recording.

[Host]

What are you laughing about?

[Michael]

I'm just preparing for what's to come. In about 10 seconds, I'm gonna let you.

[Host]

Describe.

[Michael]

Okay.

[Host]

And explain why we are conducting this episode the way we are today. Why right now? Wanna. I'm gonna let you tell the tale.

[Michael]

Okay. Okay.

[Host]

And then I'm gonna come in afterwards and clarify.

[Michael]

It'll be. It'll be accurate.

[Host]

Yes. You are about to throw out.

[Michael]

It'll be accurate. It'll be accurate.

[Host]

Fire.

[Michael]

So yesterday, I'm in the studio. I'm messing with the roadcaster.

[Host]

Why? Because you tell them or I'm going to.

[Michael]

Yeah, yeah, I will. I will. Because I want to, like, try and do some voiceover stuff. Right.

[Host]

You described it to me as voice acting, which, by the way, you thought I was gonna crush you when you text me about this. And I feel like I didn't crush you at all.

[Michael]

No, not at all.

[Host]

I was totally supportive.

[Michael]

You were?

[Host]

And I said, yeah. And now I'm going to completely change all of that. So that's all gone. You no longer have support. I'm going to mock you publicly. We're going to be in the middle of a jiu jitsu class tomorrow and be like Michael's voice acting. Let's do the fairytale voice. Play the dolphin princess for us, Michael.

[Michael]

Okay, so I come in yesterday. I'm doing something of the sort.

[Host]

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[Michael]

Like just voiceover stuff.

[Host]

Where's the file?

[Michael]

I deleted it.

[Host]

No, you didn't. It's somewhere.

[Michael]

No way. In the trash, which I cleared. You might be able to pull out in some way.

[Host]

Thompson, when we need him.

[Michael]

Oh, he'd be able to get it out.

[Host]

I want to hear some of your voice acting. Describe the exercises that you were doing yesterday. First off, you do not get to judge whether or not your voice acting was good or bad.

[Michael]

I was. I didn't. I wasn't.

[Host]

You said it was pretty good. You just said that.

[Michael]

I 100% did not. Whatever.

[Host]

It's possible that I'm hearing things. Go ahead and describe to me what you were voice acting about yesterday.

[Michael]

Okay. It was just a sample you need to upload to the website to blah, blah, blah.

[Host]

Do you have an account?

[Michael]

Yes. I'm not giving you my information.

[Host]

Does it have a record of what you uploaded? Because I want to hear.

[Michael]

No, it doesn't.

[Host]

What?

[Michael]

Did you read an ad Read?

[Host]

What voice did you use?

[Michael]

Very informative.

[Host]

Let's hear it.

[Michael]

This is. I mean, it was similar to this voice right now.

[Host]

Oh, you're gonna get zero jobs.

[Michael]

Okay. So I came in yesterday, lowered microphone one and two.

[Host]

Why?

[Michael]

Because I didn't want any surrounding sound to possibly come through, which doesn't happen.

[Host]

Because you can absolutely isolate track three, which is yours in post, which you should know this. So what could be some.

[Michael]

And then I.

[Host]

But so what could be some cascading consequences, Michael, of lowering microphone one and two. And for the listeners or viewers out there, I'm talking into microphone two. Normally I sit over here on the table at microphone one, but this camera angle when we do these, when he and I are talking, it's a little. I feel like it's a weird angle for me to be turned so hard.

[Michael]

Right? Yeah.

[Host]

So I sit here so I can see you. What would be some potential cascading consequences?

[Michael]

Maybe. So this is like all hypothetical, but possibly, hypothetically today, possibly Andy could be through three or four questions on the follow the Friday Invite episode.

[Host]

And then somebody might show up. And what do I do? Because I care. I invite Michael to join me for the fourth question because it was actually jiu jitsu related. And I'll actually. We should answer that one because it's interesting and I think it is. I'm interested your opinion on this because it's like more modern, sporty jiu jitsu versus more traditional or GI based, but then also introducing training tools like weapon shapes and stuff like that.

[Michael]

Right?

[Host]

Yeah. So you weren't even supposed to be a part of it, but I was going to invite you in.

[Michael]

Very nice of you.

[Host]

And you sat down maybe at the table. What could have happened then?

[Michael]

So I sit down and I look at the Rodecaster. And I. As soon as I looked at it, my heart instantly dropped. And I was considering not saying anything and letting you be like, I wonder what happened here?

[Host]

I would have looked over there and immediately recognized, no, no.

[Michael]

After I flipped these back up, so.

[Host]

Oh, you were thinking you were going to let me feel like the file was corrupted. I can respect that. Yes, I respect it.

[Michael]

But I didn't. I said, this is my fault. Like I said. And these. These two are all the way down.

[Host]

37 minutes into answering questions. And when the. It is essentially the sensitivity of the recording device.

[Michael]

Yeah.

[Host]

At the bottom where they were. I might as well unplug.

[Michael]

This sound can come through. So you might have picked something up on this one a little bit, maybe.

[Host]

Thanks for that. I would have had to, like, raise that by about 100 decibels. And if a full I buzz by, it would have nuked people's eardrums would popped out. So. Yeah, I. I mean, honestly, I wasn't pissed about it. And I just. I don't get too fired up about much.

[Michael]

I know.

[Host]

I really don't. I was like, whatever, dude. We'll figure it out.

[Michael]

Yeah, you were frustrated at first for about a minute, and then you were like, it's fine, whatever.

[Host]

Yeah, it's. I did tell you, you have no. You have no choice because we just finished wrapping up an episode. I did say you have no choice but to sit now. And now we're doing a combined episode. Yeah, because I'm not reading those questions again.

[Michael]

Yeah, no, I think. Yeah, that's fair. That's a fair. That's fair.

[Host]

This is what I work with everyone people say, why do you give Michael such a hard time?

[Michael]

Yeah, it's because I suck. That's why.

[Host]

I mean, you said it, not me. How awesome was it when I met your mom at the coffee shop and I directly asked her why I can't take you base jumping?

[Michael]

Yeah, that was pretty funny.

[Host]

I don't know if she thought it.

[Michael]

Was funny, but not really, I think.

[Host]

How come she never comes in? Your dad's in there almost every day, but she never comes in. It's the first time. Maybe she does come in all the time. That's the first time I've met her or seen her in the shop.

[Michael]

No, I think she does not come in as often. I don't know. I think she's just not as big of a coffee person as my dad is.

[Host]

I don't know if it's good that she listens to the episodes.

[Michael]

She only Listens to the ones that weird. We do? Yeah.

[Host]

I only listen to my sweet, sweet Michael. Isn't he the best? I feel like his answers are the best.

[Michael]

Is not what she says.

[Host]

Oh, really?

[Michael]

What does she say or sounds like?

[Host]

No, no. I couldn't replicate your mom's voice if I tried because I'm not a voice actor like you.

[Michael]

But yeah, I could do it easily.

[Host]

What kind of job you going for? You looking for remote work?

[Michael]

Well, yeah, I mean anything.

[Host]

I saw a request to fill out a dog walker review for you or a dog.

[Michael]

You never did it. Thanks.

[Host]

By the way, I almost hit submit. Leah stopped me. Do you want me to summarize what I had written?

[Michael]

Oh, God, no.

[Host]

Michael is absolutely the best. Our dog is care for it in every way. We come home, he's sexually satisf. Like, surprisingly, where he's short on peanut butter, often he sleeps next to our dog. He will sleep with his clothes on or off. Leah's over because I'm just dying laughing.

[Michael]

Sleeping next to the dog thing is actually true. But you guys, I thought I had.

[Host]

Clothing on or off though. It's like depending on what you like or what your dog prefers. So I'm over there dying laughing, and she knows me well enough now. She goes, what are you doing? And he said, michael apparently is starting this company or a business where he watches animals. And he asked me for a review. And she looks at me mortified. She goes, what are you writing? And I said, I read the last sentence. I said, he's excellent with our dog. We come home, he's sexually satisfied. And she again, she's just like, what is wrong with you?

[Michael]

Yeah, I'm glad Lee is there to temper you.

[Host]

That one was all timing. If she hadn't been there, I'd have smashed submit on that thing. I'll write you one. I'll write you one.

[Michael]

That's great. Thank you.

[Host]

Yeah, it's going to talk about your lack of attention to detail at your job, but yeah.

[Michael]

Well, is that. Do you have any questions new for anybody?

[Host]

Yeah, do you have any questions?

[Michael]

Yeah, let's do this.

[Host]

Let's do the Jiu Jitsu one because it was pretty good. Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. Where we are.

[Michael]

Cool.

[Host]

I think some people don't like it when we talk about Jiu Jitsu. Okay. You guys only talk about Jiu Jitsu. I don't think that's fair. I think we talk about a bunch of stuff.

[Michael]

Yeah.

[Host]

I think it's been impactful on both of our lives and I think we both enjoy it and it's something that we both.

[Michael]

Yeah, we're both passionate about it. I feel like.

[Host]

Yeah. So it's like whatevs. Hit the.

[Michael]

I feel like it's not that common that we talk about Jiu Jitsu.

[Host]

I would agree. Okay, here we go. Andy. I'm by no means a Jiu Jitsu and this one has a bunch of questions. So I'm gonna kind of take it one at a time. I am by no means a Jiu Jitsu expert. This actually could have been written by Nel based off these next sentences. I've been a blue belt for far too long by being inconsistent and not dedicating myself to more than occasional once or twice a week. However, he would need to change that to year.

[Michael]

Yeah, yeah.

[Host]

I started in 2006, which by my math is 19 years ago.

[Michael]

That's quite a while.

[Host]

And by 09 I had my blue belt. Running the numbers on this again. It's 20, 25, tail end, almost Q4 should be. You know, I let life get in the way and I am still a blue belt. Do you see how I think Nelson could have written this?

[Michael]

Yes. Yeah, absolutely.

[Host]

When I moved to my new town. It just so happens that another guy I trained with way back in 06 is at the gym I go to. He's now a second degree black belt. That's how it works when you keep training.

[Michael]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Host]

He's been a major push for me to get back into it, which is awesome. He's even been giving me private lessons at a good discount. Why does that matter? When I attend the group classes, I feel like the Jiu Jitsu that is being taught today has little bearing on real world encounters. Many of the people at my gym are doing the moves that many people mock in air quotes that he wrote Jiu Jitsu 4. Which being Pole Guard. But scute or inverting. And maybe for people who don't know we're talking about. I should describe that. Pulling guard is basically what I'm gonna describe that as getting. Pulling your. Pulling it down to the ground. Butt scooting is literally sitting down on your butt and scooting on your butt forward and inverting is exactly what it sounds like. Rolling kind of underneath somebody. Don't get me wrong, they crush me at it. And maybe I'm whining because I catch a thrashing when some 19 year old purple belt hits me with wild Jiu Jitsu I've never seen. Now the questions when I do the one on ones with My friend, we try to do the real stuff. On a few occasions we left our jeans and T shirts on and I sub out my EDC for a rubber training gun. In the past you've spoken to guys about Leo specific training. The topic of a gun not being the only option has come up. I was wondering if you do any training like this, do you have any suggestions on resources or just advice around fighting while carrying your pistol? So this is where we'll stop and answer some questions. Have you ever done any weapons based training involved with Jiu Jitsu? Yeah, like the Paul Sharp course?

[Michael]

Yeah, a couple seminars we've done. Yeah.

[Host]

Paul Sharp was a part of. I'm not sure he still is. A group called Shiv Works, specifically edge weapons. Here's what I'll say. I think you should train like you fight. I don't think you have to train with your EDC stuff on all the time, but I think it's a great idea. What I will say this. So a rubber training gun, most of the time they're not rubber. They're actually a relatively hard plastic. First tip on this is if your training gun has sights on the top of it, shave them off. I watched a demo at a place that I will name, I will not name, I will leave the name out of it, out of professional courtesy. And they were doing a demo where one of the person, you know, the person was essentially, it started with trying to prevent somebody from getting it out of the holster. And then actions if they do get out of the holster, essentially going two on one, meaning two hands on the pistol. And the person jerked the pistol back during the demo and the UKI or the person that was participating with them at that point began to bleed. And this is also another reason why, you know, live your life however you want to. I would, as a measure of absolute last resort, ever use a real firearm for any of this. But those things have metal sites that will cut you like a knife. They often are going to have RMRs on their ruggedized miniature red dots. All of that stuff can break. I don't even like the idea that. And it's like there's so many safety measures you can put in place. But like a live firearm, even though there's no rounds, I just don't like. I don't like it. Yeah, but I mean consider like even shaving off the trigger guard so a finger can't get caught in that because those are injuries that are going to last a long time. But the sights, man, if somebody it, it'll.

[Michael]

Yeah. You catch your finger on that or.

[Host]

It drags along and it cuts you.

[Michael]

Yeah.

[Host]

It's not as sharp as the metal ones, but it'll cut you. So if you're going to do that, keep, please keep those things in mind. I wouldn't tape over the sights. I would actually just shave them off. And if it is just a rubber gun and that's not an issue, then awesome. But most of the time I've seen it's a relatively hard plastic, so it can maintain the shape and go into the holster. So do I do any type of training like this? No. Like right now, I carry in a fanny pack. I'm not going to go out and do jiu jitsu with the fanny pack on. I feel relatively secure that I could access for the vast majority of what I have been taught. With that fanny pack on, it would stay closed, it would stay out of the way. And if you're up against somebody who is not rising to the level of needing to have a weapon pulled out, I. I feel pretty confident in being able to handle that. So I'm not going to go roll with a fanny pack on just because. Having said that, rolling with an appendix carry or for people who like to carry it to 6 o', clock, why they would like to do that? Because sitting down is a real thing. Like you and I right now.

[Michael]

Yeah.

[Host]

Get your. What's the name for that thing? The street broom.

[Michael]

The Constitution.

[Host]

Yeah. Okay. That's. That's your name. It's. There's a specific name for it though. It's like. I forget. Go ahead and strap that thing on your everyday carry on the back of your.

[Michael]

Yeah.

[Host]

Are you wearing a belt?

[Michael]

Yeah.

[Host]

Put that on the back of your pants right now. Six o' clock carry. Let's go for it. Just to highlight a point. Get it. Nice. Nice. Now. Now sit down on your workstation. Sure.

[Michael]

The camera.

[Host]

Yep. Get it. Nice. It's very well concealed. Nobody would ever think that you have.

[Michael]

No.

[Host]

How's that feeling?

[Michael]

It's actually about to fall off my belt right now. It's hitting this. The chair.

[Host]

I watched a guy over at Wheat, Montana, who had a vehicle that was completely decked out in all sorts of tactical flare.

[Michael]

Yeah.

[Host]

Carrying at the six o' clock position with his T shirt tucked in so everybody could see it. And then got in the front seat of his Jeep. And I want to say that he stalled out trying to get it into first email. I'm pretty sure it was a automatic. So that part is me wanting to add to the story.

[Michael]

Yeah.

[Host]

And, you know, just because we live in the Kennedy era doesn't mean we can just make things up. So I'm going to tell you guys the truth. He did not stall the vehicle even though I wanted him to.

[Michael]

That would have been hilarious.

[Host]

Quietly judged.

[Michael]

Yeah.

[Host]

I mean, if I was carrying it to six o' clock right now. Horrible. Can you imagine fighting off your back with the six o' clock carry position?

[Michael]

You couldn't even get to your gun. Like, it would be hard. Yeah.

[Host]

Especially if somebody was on top of you.

[Michael]

But, yeah, for sure.

[Host]

So if you're going to conceal carry in a waistline, I would say you don't need to do this a lot. But I totally like the fact that they are doing this specifically. What I actually like even more is the jeans and T shirt. Get used to what you actually have and what you don't have. T shirts are gnarly. I don't know if you've ever been choked by a shirt. This thin edge, like the thick edge.

[Michael]

Of a GI cuts into your.

[Host]

Well, the thick edge of the GI is actually way more comfortable than this garrote wire where you can pull it up the back of the shirt and get a grip and then bring it over the top. Holy cow, dude. It is. It is gnarly. So I love that you're doing that and I absolutely think that you should be doing that stuff. Uh, and then he asked, am I just pretending that I'm a cool guy operator and should I accept that I'm not going to be pulled into Jack Carr's next great novel? You don't have to be an operator to train like you fight tools. Regardless of what the tool is. Let's use brain surgery as an example. A topic that I know absolutely nothing about other than that they're operating on the brain. I feel like they have a bunch of tools that they can use, but the tool is only as effective as the person holding it or wielding it. So they have to practice. I think you should practice every once in a while and then maybe probably leave the. If you want to. Maybe just for your own comfort or your training partner's comfort. The pistol out street close stuff I think is really cool. What are your thoughts?

[Michael]

Um, yeah. When. Whenever I did it. It's only been a couple of times, but it was really fun and it brought a whole different level of intensity that you never really see in jiu jitsu. And I really liked it. Like, it was super fun. Like, we. I think we did a. On one of them, we did a training where it was like, you are literally like, for these 10 seconds, you're about to die, and so go as hard as you can and make sure the person doesn't do this whatever thing. And it was really.

[Host]

Paul Sharp's crazy.

[Michael]

Yeah. Oh, yeah. He's a little crazy for sure.

[Host]

But he's out of his mind crazy.

[Michael]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. But it was some of the most fun and like, kind of eye opening, I don't know, training I've ever done.

[Host]

It changes a lot about how you think about what you're doing.

[Michael]

Yes.

[Host]

And again, you know what? We totally forgot to address the modern Jiu Jitsu. What he's talking about, I would call sports Jiu Jitsu.

[Michael]

Oh, yeah.

[Host]

Is that real Jiu Jitsu to you?

[Michael]

What's your definition of real Jiu Jitsu?

[Host]

I don't know. And that's how I was gonna kind of answer it too. I actually love that people do that stuff. Not everybody is into this because they want to use this as a self defense.

[Michael]

Yeah. I would say it's real Jiu Jitsu in that, like it you. It's directly traceable to Brazilian Jiu Jitsu and it still is Brazilian Jiu Jitsu. But if your goal, I think, I mean, it depends on the goal. If your goal is to win a tournament, then, yeah, it's real Jiu Jitsu. If your goal is to, you know, I don't know, survive in a street encounter, then I would say some of.

[Host]

It becomes a little bit less viable as an option.

[Michael]

Yeah, you need to shave some of that off.

[Host]

Well, I'm not gonna crap on people for doing it, though. Whatever brings them to the mat, I'm super supportive of that. None of the stuff that, you know, the inverting and specifically the butt scooting, none of that part is in my game. I don't like inverting because then people can apply. They can just smash you into the ground. There are people who are really good at it, can. They can move your weight off center line and spit out at all odd angles and stuff like that. It's just not my game. I found this way later in life. I'm not that flexible. I have no interest. Every old school Jiu Jitsu player I talk to, I ask him about what they would change. They all say, don't let some people people touch your neck or crank on your head. Which can kind of happen when you're inverting, but I think is real too. I don't think anybody's going to be doing it in a Street fight. And that's totally okay because like I said, I don't think everybody is coming to this to be used as a tool, as a street fight. For some people, this is their only social connection or their exercise or their escape from work, whatever it is. And so whatever you're coming for. Right on. Is this guy frustrated that he gets caught by a 19 year old purple ball hitting with that stuff? Yeah. You know why? Because it's super frustrating.

[Michael]

Yeah.

[Host]

And you've never been buggy choked by a child. You're not living life appropriately. And if that doesn't piss you off, I don't know what to say because it's really frustrating what just happened. I don't like that. I hate you. I might be quitting Jiu Jitsu.

[Michael]

Yeah. And it works within the rule set of Jiu Jitsu.

[Host]

Yeah.

[Michael]

So it's like. Yeah. It's going to work on the mats for sure.

[Host]

And doesn't mean it has to be a part of your game at all.

[Michael]

Exactly. I think the foundational aspects of Jiu Jitsu of like, you know, maintaining top pressure, getting out from bottom, as long as you still have those in your foundation, then I don't think it's wrong to have all the other fancy stuff that comes with it.

[Host]

All I would say is this my recommendation. I'm not a coach, I'm not an expert. Master the foundational principles or continue to try to master them and then layer the fancy on top of it.

[Michael]

Absolutely. Yeah.

[Host]

If you lay the fancy first and you don't have the foundations, I think you'll hit a glass ceiling way, way earlier.

[Michael]

Yeah.

[Host]

Personal opinion. Take it or leave it.

[Michael]

Agreed.

[Host]

You know.

[Michael]

Yeah.

[Host]

He says carrying my gun makes me want to be better at the unarmed stuff. I totally agree. God willing, I never have to use the extreme option of a gun. But I have prepared myself for that. I find the people a. That are the most capable in violence are the least likely to encounter it. And this is just like. I just don't understand. Police are, and to a degree, firefighters, EMS personnel, they have to touch people almost every day.

[Michael]

Yeah.

[Host]

The fact that they don't train and I understand all the restrictions on time and the requirements, I totally get that. But if you have limited tools, if all you have, you have no grappling ability whatsoever and all you have is a Taser and a firearm and the Taser doesn't work, you've escalated rapidly through your available options. And that's how people, I think.

[Michael]

Yeah.

[Host]

End up on the wrong side of that.

[Michael]

Yeah.

[Host]

I mean, the reality is I have not. I've not gotten into a fight since I started doing Jiu jitsu. I have no desire to get into a fight with anybody because violence hurts, and even when you win, you can end up in the hospital. I also don't want to deal with the legal consequences. I have horsed around with a few friends who have not been trained, and it is laughable.

[Michael]

Yeah, it really is.

[Host]

It is laughable. And not. I'm not saying they're laughable, but when you understand some very fundamental principles, you.

[Michael]

Don'T even have to be that far into it.

[Host]

No.

[Michael]

You know. Yeah. It's pretty incredible. Yeah.

[Host]

And that's what Nelson says. I've learned what I need to. I mean, I don't know if he actually says that. I'm saying that. I think at this point, he just said, I quit. I'm no longer.

[Michael]

Oh, yeah. I mean, it sure seems like he did.

[Host]

Professional rain dancer or whatever that Irish dance is, but okay, I think he says I. But I think being better at my jiu jitsu, wrestling, and hitting things and people will help me not have to go to that extreme. Totally agree. And that's wrestling. Grabbing people, taking them down to the ground. Jiu jitsu, being able to fight, striking distances. That's awesome. Thanks for reading my ramblings and for the ecosystem you have created. Done. Answered. That's what we were gonna answer earlier today.

[Michael]

Well, we did.

[Host]

Until we were all good. What else you have for us? I don't even know what to call this other than Michael's up. I call it a good thumbnail. I feel like that thumbnail instantly gets censored.

[Michael]

Oh, yeah, for sure. Yeah.

[Host]

You'd have to go like f. Some weird apostrophe.

[Michael]

Apostrophe characters. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. I. Why? What is the reasoning that. Oh, actually, is this even true? First of all, that if you are in the military and you're in, like, a special operations unit or whatever, you can grow your hair and beard out sometimes.

[Host]

It's called relax Grooming standards.

[Michael]

Okay.

[Host]

And I can only speak from my time when I was in, which has been a long time since I have been in.

[Michael]

It was.

[Host]

Depending on the unit you're at, the command that you're at. There are roles that you would be allowed to do that at all times. My last deployment I did in 2010 with SEAL Team 3. We knew we were going to Afghanistan in about a month before we left, we were allowed to go on to Relax Grooming standards. Not in that time prior Whereas my experience at other commands, you were just allowed to maintain those standards. So it depends is the best answer. It is a real thing. Relaxed grooming standards is a real thing. Its application is not equal across military forces.

[Michael]

Okay, and so what is the reasoning behind that? Like why do you, why are you allowed to sometimes do that?

[Host]

The reason as it was described to me, I have never read like the black and white doctrine on this is that. So it slightly reduces your military esque signature. Now having said that, ladies and gentlemen, today's episode is brought to you by Peak. I am loving this tea. I got two examples for you here we have the Nandaka, which is the adaptogenic coffee alternative. This is something that I'm going to be using more in the morning. Energy, metabolism and mood. And I'll talk about the frother that comes with this. This stuff is so easy, right? You open this bad boy up, comes right in this little sachet. You rip this thing open, drink it out of whatever you want to. You need some hot water. Pour hot water in the, get a kettle, microwave it, put it on the stovetop, whatever you want to do. Pour this thing in there, stir it up and you're good to go. No waiting. A teabag that you have to deal with later on, waiting for it to steep to the appropriate color or what you're looking for. Throw that thing in the garbage and you're good to go. Another one. Now, I'm not a matcha guy, but I hear people talking about matcha all the time. This is the sun goddess matcha. It's a green tea. This is again for energy and this is targeted towards actually skin health. It's the exact same thing out of that box, these packets, this tea. I'm not a tea guy. I never thought I was going to be a tea guy. I've been doing these ads for a year now and I'm actually really enjoying integrating tea into my life. The efficiency is one thing. Not being so reliant upon coffee is another one as well. And I can travel with them. All I need is hot water. You can solve the hot water problem in almost any city in the world. So you're just a vessel away from having tea. There's a lot of things that tea can help with gut health. Whether you're looking for probiotics or prebiotics, longevity antioxidants in the convenience which we already talked about. And there's some health benefits as well. You could have a microbiome reset or targeting a microbiome reset with gut flora. For better digestion and smoother metabolism, energy and mood and immune support. Polyphenols that can bolster your body's resilience. A few things I like about these teas beyond just the taste themselves is the commitment to sourcing excellence. They're wild harvested from two five year old tea trees for unmatched purity and nutrient density. And they're innovative. They're using a cold extraction technology which retains maximum phytonutrients and they've evolved what traditional tea looks like. Right. This isn't your grandma and grandpa's tea. This is, you know, tea for the, you know, 2025, a quarter of the way through the 21st century. If you're ready to give it a go and you don't know what you like, they offer a starter pack. Should check that out for sure. But for a limited time you can also get 20% off on their Puwera bundle plus a free starter kit which includes a rechargeable frother which I talked about. These things are great. USB C rechargeable and a glass beake. So you could always pour the exact amount of hot water you want using my link. So head over to peaklife.com cleared hot that is P I Q U E life.com clearedhut it's right down in the show notes and claim this exclusive offer. You won't regret it. Back to the show. We're wearing military.

[Michael]

I was going to say, aren't you fully decked out and.

[Host]

Yes. So I don't necessarily think it's valid there but there are roles that are more low visibility. There are people who specialize in moving amongst individuals and areas, maybe travel to and from. But then what also raises your signature is that you're passing through a military base and everybody else is clean shaven on your way overseas.

[Michael]

Yeah.

[Host]

And 60 dudes roll off. That in and of itself massively raises the signature. Are you really worried about what's going to happen on base? No. But do people watch those type of things? Can you track that movement? Sure. You possibly could. I've heard it said that, you know, it's supposed to buy you a little bit of time.

[Michael]

Yeah, right.

[Host]

And you know, I also heard, you know, in things like Afghanistan, men having a beard, that's a very cultural thing.

[Michael]

Right.

[Host]

You're assimilating to a degree. You know, men not having a beard in Afghanistan. I don't, I'm trying. The word I'm looking for fails me at this moment. But it's not that it's you Know, disrespectful to have it, but it's an honorable thing to have.

[Michael]

Okay.

[Host]

Yeah, so. But again, I don't know if that's actually necessarily true. Right, so I've heard all of those things.

[Michael]

Yeah.

[Host]

At the end of the day, what it does is it makes your face super itchy and hot environments and you sweat your ass off.

[Michael]

Yeah. No, that's fair. I saw a video, a short on YouTube.

[Host]

Oh, is this where we're getting our news now?

[Michael]

Well, this is why I'm asking you, because I was like, this kind of sounds like bs.

[Host]

Was the short describing relaxed grooming standards?

[Michael]

It was describing the reason.

[Host]

What did they say?

[Michael]

The guy. It was like this super serious guy and he was like, the reason that we're allowed to wear beards is so the enemy knows we're different from the other regular people, that we can inflict pain. And all this stuff, the gear that.

[Host]

We'Re wearing indicates that in and of.

[Michael]

Itself, the flying vehicles that we came.

[Host]

In on versus, like, maybe, again, I haven't read the black and white. That might be. I feel like that answer might be based a little bit more in theater than anything else.

[Michael]

That's what I was kind of.

[Host]

Yeah.

[Michael]

Imagining. So that's why I had to confirm.

[Host]

It as a rule or a piece of advice for people. Be cautious using shorts as your news source.

[Michael]

Yeah, I was. I didn't take it. I didn't believe it.

[Host]

I just thought it was talking about you specifically. But even though we are talking about this because you watched it.

[Michael]

Yeah.

[Host]

Ting is a general principle.

[Michael]

Okay.

[Host]

Remember what they are.

[Michael]

Good, good. Good call. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. I sent you a text of this earlier today. I don't know if you read it at all.

[Host]

I saw that you sent me a text.

[Michael]

Yeah.

[Host]

And I did. I looked at the wave top of it. I'll let you describe it.

[Michael]

It's insane. So apparently this guy who was, I guess a former like Yahoo Executive.

[Host]

Yahoo.

[Michael]

Was.

[Host]

Do you know what Yahoo is?

[Michael]

It was like a search engine.

[Host]

Yes.

[Michael]

Yeah. And they had email and stuff.

[Host]

Okay, I'm going to go ahead and read the subject line.

[Michael]

Yes.

[Host]

Chat GPT believed to have played role in Connecticut, which is also sometimes said. Connecticut. That's how you can remember how to spell it.

[Michael]

Yes.

[Host]

Murder suicide of mother and son. Holy cow. Did you read this article? Because you can probably surmise it better.

[Michael]

Yeah, I did.

[Host]

I did the wave tops or summarize.

[Michael]

Yeah.

[Host]

What does surmise even mean?

[Michael]

Surmise. I think that means like. Like assume or something.

[Host]

Let's look that up real fast, too. Just so we know how dumb we are. I don't know why I said surmise. It's clearly summarized. Let's all learn right now. Let's surmise something.

[Michael]

Definition.

[Host]

Do it on the screen so people can see how dumb we are.

[Michael]

Oh, surmise. It's surmise. Suppose that something is true without having evidence to confirm it.

[Host]

Okay, surmise.

[Michael]

But yeah, basically, I meant summarize. Of course. Yes, I surmised that. Yeah, yeah. This guy was like a former Yahoo executive.

[Host]

Okay.

[Michael]

He was talking to Chat GPT and Chap. GPT was basically telling him that his mother was a Chinese spy.

[Host]

What?

[Michael]

And that if he. Basically he should kill her and then kill himself.

[Host]

Said that?

[Michael]

Yes. Well, I don't know if it explicitly told him to kill her.

[Host]

Are you going to get us in trouble? We're making wild assumptions and accusations.

[Michael]

No, no, this is in the article.

[Host]

Okay, well, let's find that. So I'm just not listening to you because now I'm basically taking news from a short. But you're my short.

[Michael]

I also watched a YouTube video about somebody talking about this too.

[Host]

Okay. On multiple occasions, the bot reassured Solberg. Sorry if I'm saying that wrong. That he was not delusional. At one point, Solberg told Bob. Is Bob that what he called his AI?

[Michael]

Yes. That was his AI Friend.

[Host]

We will be together in another life and another place, and we'll find a way to realign because you're going to be my best friend again forever. Oh, my God, the bot replied. Whether this world or the next, I'll find you. We'll build again, laugh again, unlock again. This makes me want to throw my phone in a blender.

[Michael]

It's crazy, dude. Like, this is insane.

[Host]

Oh, my God. Lee. Lee Vonas said. I'm assuming that's somebody associated with this or.

[Michael]

I'm guessing. Yeah.

[Host]

Said AI can be an extension of the dark content on the Internet. Well, it's.

[Michael]

It's pulling from that.

[Host]

Are we having this conversation? Oh, I was. It was yesterday when I flew down with Bill to Montana Knife company. We were talking about AI And I was talking about how pretty soon, you know the Terminator movie, which I know you haven't seen, is going to become a documentary. Yeah, because Skynet became aware at August 29th. Just a few days ago at 1:30pm which is going to make no sense to you until you do your actual homework of watching some movies. Yeah, which we are going to do Devil Wears Prada with popcorn and hobby.

[Michael]

Perfect.

[Host]

Just because I'M fascinated now by what that was about.

[Michael]

Yeah, I have no clue. Apparently, apparently it's about fashion.

[Host]

Yeah. That that particular comment to Michael will make no sense to people until about six weeks from now when. Yeah, we just recorded comes out. So ye check back in with us on that one. But you know, Bill was basically saying he doesn't have those concerns. He's like, I understand the concerns but I don't have them because one, it's not conscious and two, it can only be taught off of the, the, the models that it is provided. But if you give these LLMs access to the Internet that, you know, the negative aspect of this is of course part of that model as well. So that doesn't surprise me as well.

[Michael]

Yeah, yeah.

[Host]

And I think I just messed up what Bill kind of described that as. But I'm doing my best. Attempted it as somebody who knows way less about it than Bill.

[Michael]

So yes. Okay. Feeling his illusions that his mother was plotting against them. So somewhere I, or from this video I was watching, the guy said that.

[Host]

Hold on, this is an interesting sentence. The 56 year old Instagram. The 56 year old's Instagram page mainly detailed his bodybuilding transformation and a growing reliance on AI chatbots. So he was like kind of blasting this out.

[Michael]

Yeah.

[Host]

How so what ended up happening? He killed everybody.

[Michael]

Well, yeah, he killed his mom and then he killed himself.

[Host]

Damn his mom. After his divorce, he had run ins with the police, including a dwi.

[Michael]

Not necessarily indicative of anything.

[Host]

Is that the end of the article?

[Michael]

No, that was just the start. But this is the end right here. We've kind of already gone through it.

[Host]

In a blog entry posted last week, OpenAI acknowledged the technology falls short in lengthy conversations and fails to block certain sensitive content writing. Our top priority is making sure chat GPT doesn't make a hard moment worse if it's being man. I don't know how they train these models, but can you imagine if part of the training model was how human beings interact online and the negativity and the aggression towards each other and that's.

[Michael]

Somehow like if that's through into the.

[Host]

Yeah, well again it's. They are, they're not sentient. They're not conscious yet.

[Michael]

Yet. Yeah.

[Host]

Bill, you're wrong on that. We weren't going to work for our water ration for the robots maybe. So yeah, they, they provide you an answer based off the data points that have been put in it to teach it to a degree. And I know, I know the word teach it is not necessarily correct. I Can't even fathom how gnarly it would be if you just taught that thing on social media interactions, like, let's turn this thing loose on Twitter.

[Michael]

Yeah.

[Host]

Oh, God, the number of times I've seen on Twitter, people, you should go kill yourself.

[Michael]

You're like, whoa, vitriol. That's all it is.

[Host]

Holy cow. And I can't fathom people being comfortable saying those things to somebody's face. And I don't understand why that veil just. Or not veil, but protective lever layer disappears and people are willing to say, I would never say that to somebody. But if that was the model you were trained on, be like, yeah, your mom. I'm Bob now. I'm the AI.

[Michael]

Yeah, yeah.

[Host]

Like Michelle, this is Bob. Your mom is conspiring against you.

[Michael]

Yeah, yeah.

[Host]

And slowly tries to talk. Not that I'm saying that this thing tried to talk him into it, but it certainly didn't talk.

[Michael]

Yeah, it kind of helped him. Yeah.

[Host]

I don't know, man.

[Michael]

Yeah. No, that's insane. And I don't know, there's. I just hear everyday stories of people proposing to their AI chatbots, people having best friend. Being best friends with their AI chatbots.

[Host]

I saw a YouTube video come up the other day where a man was bringing us up to speed because 10 years before, a video was made of him and he was in a romantic relationship with his car.

[Michael]

Oh, yeah. I know exactly what you're talking about. I've. I've watched a video on that, like a long time ago. I'm sure you have that same relationship. It was the red car, right?

[Host]

Yeah.

[Michael]

Yep.

[Host]

It makes me sad. I don't know how people get to that spot.

[Michael]

I don't know either. But yeah, that story makes me think that this is chatgpt is just a new form of that Same kind of delusion, but even more powerful because it can mimic a human so well that you think you're having a human connection.

[Host]

Then again, I'm not qualified in any way to make an assessment of anybody's mental health. But I think you, like, if somebody is having a. Is plagued with mental health issues or working their way through that, I mean, what happens too, if they. If you know, in that you start having a little bit of breaks from reality and you start being unable to parse what's real and what's not. But you have this thing that's. I've done the talk to Chat GPT. Just a curiosity. It sounds like a person. It really talks back to you like a person.

[Michael]

Yep.

[Host]

I mean, I Don't know, man. It is so complicated. But I feel like. I just feel terrible that somebody can get to that place or would need to rely on an AI chatbot for their social interaction. I use that in air quotes because I guess I don't think it is actually social action because it's not.

[Michael]

It's really not.

[Host]

Yeah, it's spitting back to really good mimic things you want to hear based off of the data learning set that has been provided to it.

[Michael]

Yeah.

[Host]

I don't know, man.

[Michael]

Yeah, no, it's wild. Yeah.

[Host]

That's one word for it.

[Michael]

The real quick. Another quick AI rabbit hole.

[Host]

Let's do it.

[Michael]

Scientists have. Scientists taught an AI powered robot dog how to play badminton against humans. And it's really good. Which I think this is interesting because it's a jump from purely.

[Host]

My God. What website are you on?

[Michael]

This is.

[Host]

Have you seen Ready Player One?

[Michael]

No.

[Host]

What movies do you watch? Do you know the premise of. Have you read the book?

[Michael]

No, but basically he's like in this headset and he does.

[Host]

One of the companies. I forget the name of it. They were. They were. I forget what they called it too. But they could sell 90% of the users visual acuity screen with ads, which I feel like we're inside of Ready Player One right now.

[Michael]

This website sucks on live science. Really sucks.

[Host]

Oh, man, you got some stuff going on. All right, let's see this thing. That's really good.

[Michael]

Apparently.

[Host]

Oh my God. Okay.

[Michael]

I'm not a badminton guy.

[Host]

Yeah. But here's the thing is I think that's probably less complicated than teaching a robot how to answer complicated questions that you ask it. Right. That's one skill. I'm sure that there is trigonometry involved in that and all those things and optical sensors and aligning, all that stuff. But that's not. You know what I mean?

[Michael]

Yeah, I don't know.

[Host]

It's not impressive.

[Michael]

I think. Yeah, I mean, I think that's more interesting because it's the jump from purely digital to now it's.

[Host]

What do you mean purely digital?

[Michael]

Like yes, no answers or like they've.

[Host]

Had robots kind of like that. Not that they're playing badminton, but stuff moving around and you know, dog like stuff like that for a long time.

[Michael]

But a lot of those were. Were pre programmed movements. And this is live analog, like call and response movements. Yeah.

[Host]

They're training it to that data set that like its whole job in life is to hit that badminton back. Which is obviously a gross oversimplification. What they're Asking you to do so. I'm sure there's optical sensors. I bet there might be the radar type stuff in there.

[Michael]

Yeah.

[Host]

Yeah. Like. I mean, that's cool.

[Michael]

Yeah. I just. I think it's an interesting jump because now it's. It's. It's not only is it because, like, say compared to like a chessbot, where it only has to. It doesn't have to move in the physical space.

[Host]

Yeah.

[Michael]

Now it's like actually thinking about moving in the physical space. And I think it's an interesting jump from purely digital to keep going.

[Host]

Oh, my God, I hate this website.

[Michael]

Every part sucks. It sucks. Oh, yeah.

[Host]

So it added a camera, two lenses stacked on top. If you saw a robot like that walking down the street with a badminton paddle or racket, would you be scared? No, I don't think I would be either.

[Michael]

No.

[Host]

That'd be curious.

[Michael]

But it's an iteration towards.

[Host]

Yeah.

[Michael]

Police robots.

[Host]

What I like the most about badminton is they hit back and forth. A shuttlecock.

[Michael]

Yeah. The fact that it's called shuttlecock is really funny. Yeah.

[Host]

Who thought up that?

[Michael]

I don't know. It's hilarious.

[Host]

Strict training regimen to teach in any. It's called capital letters, A, N, Y. Mall, any mall. How to strike the shuttlecocks with a virtual coach. Rewarding the robot for a variety of characteristics. How do you reward a robot?

[Michael]

Yeah. I don't know, actually.

[Host]

Scroll down. Fast learner.

[Michael]

Yep.

[Host]

Keep going. Yeah. It's got 18 joints, so it had to figure out how to manipulate all those in sequence to do its job. Yep. Yeah. I mean, five years from now, I think is when we're gonna be terrible. I say that, but who knows? Maybe it's. But maybe they. It's like the alien stuff. They soften us by showing us little things like this. And then they hit us with a good one.

[Michael]

Two years, probably. I mean, with the rate of progression steadily increasing.

[Host]

Your. Your kids generation. Not that you're gonna have any, because I can't get you to talk to women.

[Michael]

No.

[Host]

Well, I mean.

[Michael]

What.

[Host]

Apparently recently you were talking to a woman. May have asked her out on a date.

[Michael]

Yeah.

[Host]

You know, didn't do research on that one.

[Michael]

We'll leave it at. We'll leave it at that, won't we?

[Host]

Didn't do your research on that one, did you, buddy?

[Michael]

No, I tried. I tried. I did my due diligence and end.

[Host]

Up on a wonder poster.

[Michael]

Yes.

[Host]

We'll leave it at that.

[Michael]

Nothing bad happened.

[Host]

Just thankfully.

[Michael]

Yeah. Anyways, next. This. I find this fascinating. The except the Venn diagram of things I found fascinating and things you find fascinating.

[Host]

There's some overlap.

[Michael]

There's like, a sliver of overlap. Jujitsu's one, Jiu jitsu's one. Yeah. This, I think, is really interesting. This is, like, tribal warfare from the 1960s.

[Host]

That man's butts out.

[Michael]

Yeah. This is like.

[Host]

Are they fighting with just shuttlecocks out?

[Michael]

Basically. And they're just spears and bow and arrow. Like, this is their war, basically.

[Host]

Whoa. Is this real?

[Michael]

Yeah, this is real. This is, like documentary footage.

[Host]

Does a guy have a wooden stick on his peen?

[Michael]

Yeah, maybe.

[Host]

Maybe they have peen sticks. Look at that. There's a lot of back and forth here. I wonder if it would be better to fight naked. Look at that peen stick.

[Michael]

Yeah, that actually is fascinating.

[Host]

Javi has balls that size too.

[Michael]

His nuts are amazing in relation to his body size. It's pretty impressive.

[Host]

He's a human that. Oh, this is getting real. There's a lot of people involved in this, but I'm not seeing much progression from. Yeah, it looks like we have some action coming here. We got it. You know, we have an advancing force and a retreating force for sure. Ah. Spear got thrown. There we go.

[Michael]

But I think this is crazy because this is, like, a direct view into history of how all humans fought, like, I don't know, 10,000 years ago.

[Host]

Okay, pause it. Okay. They're. They're not wearing anything.

[Michael]

No. They're, like, almost completely naked.

[Host]

Except for.

[Michael]

The peen stick, which I. I'm not quite sure why.

[Host]

That's what I'm saying. Why? If you're basically butt, ass naked.

[Michael]

Yeah.

[Host]

And some of them are curved, straight. Different sizes.

[Michael]

Yeah. I'm not quite sure what those. I'm not sure either represent or why you would. But. Yeah.

[Host]

Ask you how you stumbled across this.

[Michael]

It just showed up in my. Recommended on YouTube.

[Host]

This guy's injured.

[Michael]

Yeah. Oh, yeah, that's right. Right in the butt.

[Host]

He has a. Yeah. Oh, that guy's got one in the leg. Okay, so people are actually getting hurt here.

[Michael]

Yeah.

[Host]

That man spear in his ass cheek and walked it off.

[Michael]

Yeah. That's pretty crazy.

[Host]

All right. Oh. Oh, God. He is jamming another stick in there. Look at that. It's pulling on his butt.

[Michael]

That's so gross.

[Host]

Oh. Oh, look at that. It's got jagged little edges.

[Michael]

Yeah. Yeah. No anesthesia, no nothing. And the cameraman is just.

[Host]

That man has a second asshole. Pretty much, technically, because it's a hole in his ass.

[Michael]

Yeah. Yeah. Okay.

[Host]

What weapon would you choose.

[Michael]

In this war, do I have to choose their. Like from their selection?

[Host]

Yes. You don't get to take a Gatling gun or your Street Duster. The Constitution. It stays over there.

[Michael]

Yeah, well, probably a bow and arrow, honestly. I mean, wouldn't that be. I feel like that would be the most effective for staying safe and also reaching out at range.

[Host]

Yeah. So it. Is it just the nature of that? Them fighting themselves or each other, that is interesting to you?

[Michael]

Well, yeah, I think it's fascinating because this is like the closest thing we have to seeing what life was like. Like 10,000 years ago. Maybe a little sooner than that, but. Yeah, I mean, it's just. I think it's fascinating.

[Host]

I think it's fascinating. It showed up in your YouTube feed.

[Michael]

Yeah.

[Host]

Because your algorithm is probably way different than mine.

[Michael]

Okay, well, this has 9 million views, so it's not surprising that it showed up in my feed.

[Host]

Let's look at some of the comments.

[Michael]

See?

[Host]

Did we all just randomly get this in our feed?

[Michael]

That's what I'm telling you.

[Host]

Not a cell phone in sight. Just people living in the moment. Algorithm. Give him that. Trust me, he'll watch anything. This violence is because of video games.

[Michael]

We got some real comedians.

[Host]

Now I know why dodgeball felt so primal as a kid. Keep going.

[Michael]

Yeah. This is basically dodgeball with deadly weapons.

[Host]

Huh?

[Michael]

Yeah, that's what I'm saying. It's literally like looking in the past, man.

[Host]

I don't know what to say other than I'm slightly fascinated.

[Michael]

See? Told you.

[Host]

By the video. One part of it is that. The other part is that you wanted.

[Michael]

To talk about it.

[Host]

I'm equally fascinated by that.

[Michael]

Well, I think also, just because the parallels of. You've been. You've been to modern war, which doesn't look like that. I know, but we had no peen sticks. Damn it. That would have been cool if you did.

[Host]

No, I don't think there's anything cool about those. I feel like if you're gonna go out there and do that, just let it be free, man.

[Michael]

Yeah, you're. I mean, you don't have anything covering anything else like that man got a.

[Host]

Spear in the butt cheek.

[Michael]

Yeah.

[Host]

Yeah. And his surgeon with very, very clean tools and gloves and operating equipment came.

[Michael]

The rates of infection. Must be horrible.

[Host]

Yeah, for sure.

[Michael]

Okay. Oh, do you know who Dwayne Weston is?

[Host]

No.

[Michael]

Okay, so apparently he's a BASE jumper.

[Host]

Okay.

[Michael]

That was wing suiting. And slammed into a bridge.

[Host]

This is a long time ago, I think.

[Michael]

02.

[Host]

Were you in the room when I had Jeb Corliss on.

[Michael]

Yes.

[Host]

Jeb Corliss was the man who flew under that bridge. Okay, can you find a video of this? Let me make sure that this is the same thing of Jeb. It may not be of Jeb. Find a video of this guy and I'll be able to let you know if Jeb. If this was the jump. If it is what I think it is.

[Michael]

Yeah, I gotta go back real quick.

[Host]

Yep, go ahead. Yeah, Play it from the.

[Michael]

From the beginning. Yep. Okay.

[Host]

If you would.

[Michael]

Yep.

[Host]

She should see two jumpers. I mean, this. This camera is amazing.

[Michael]

Yeah, really.

[Host]

Actually is pretty incredible. How far recording.

[Michael]

Yeah.

[Host]

Equipment has come. So it's my understanding there were two jumpers. Jeb was the second one out. He was supposed to go over the bridge. And the man, you. I can already tell from this distance. These are old school wingsuit. And Jeb is going to go under. That angle of attack is. That is steep. Yeah. So. And then that second jumper is Jeb.

[Michael]

Okay. Okay, gotcha.

[Host]

It is my understanding, and I believe that Jeb told this story that it almost cut him in half and it deployed his parachute on impact. But as Jeb was going under the bridge, he fell, flew through essentially what was misted blood.

[Michael]

Oh, man.

[Host]

I didn't know what had happened, but it's basically his legs had gotten cut off.

[Michael]

Yeah.

[Host]

Yeah. So I don't know anything about this person yet because that is his parachute there. I think he landed dead, was killed instantly.

[Michael]

Yeah, I heard he bled out.

[Host]

I appreciate. Well, the impact would have been unbelievable. Yeah, it is my understanding he structurally damaged the bridge.

[Michael]

That's crazy. So he was screaming.

[Host]

Yeah, you're cooking.

[Michael]

But.

[Host]

I'm not going to second guess anybody or Monday morning quarterback. What I will say is, you know, when it comes to wingsuit base jumping, you're not. Wingsuit base jumping specifically. You're not even wearing an altimeter because you don't need to. So it's all camera. One camera too. And that's for those that are audio only. I was just blinking each one of my eyes independently. So it's all visual in not going to say it's easy to gauge your angle of attack always properly, but you can feel it in the suit, how much energy it has, how the feedback it's giving you. And it's not excessively difficult to gauge the. The angle of attack that you're flying. And there was opportunities in that where you could have bailed and just gone under, you know.

[Michael]

Yeah, it sucks, right? Yeah.

[Host]

Yeah, it sucks. I think they were doing this as part of an event as well, so there might have been a little bit of performance pressure as well to do it as they described it. But yeah, Jeb was there and it was. He. He was impacted by it for sure.

[Michael]

Oh, I can imagine. Yeah. Yeah.

[Host]

Super high consequence, man. There's not a lot of margin for. For error in that particular activity. Yeah, I'd call it a sport. I don't know if it. I don't know what defines a sport or not, but let's call it an activity. Yeah, I know your mom's pumped. She's waiting for you to go. Based on.

[Michael]

Yeah, we're gonna do this exact jump.

[Host]

That's years of training for you. You need to learn how to skydive first, then do a wingsuit. Yeah.

[Michael]

Yeah. Okay.

[Host]

How many more you got? How long we've been going?

[Michael]

We're at 48 minutes.

[Host]

Do one more. Because at least 12 minutes of that was you confessing to your sins.

[Michael]

Yeah, I was trying to tell the full story, but you kept interrupting me with the truth. Of course. How about. How did you hear about the boy that was ding dong ditching and then he got shot by a homeowner?

[Host]

No, but it doesn't surprise me.

[Michael]

No, so. And the homeowner turned out to be, which, I mean, not that this really matters. A u. S. Army vet. Yeah. But. Yeah, basically.

[Host]

So hold on. He rang the doorbell and he shot him? Yes. Come on.

[Michael]

I know. Yeah. So I don't know, like 11 year old. Yeah.

[Host]

So 11pm Two story home, tower of the cousins. But spaceship made a deal for ding dong ditching. I'm not even gonna explain that because everybody knows.

[Michael]

Yeah, but.

[Host]

Yeah, keep going. Go down. Approximate site where it's fatally shot. Oh, man. Damn. Just down the street.

[Michael]

Yeah.

[Host]

Whoa. After ringing the bell, the young boys took off, making it at least 20ft away before the suspect walked to the edge of his property and shot. Two shots rang out, one finding its mark. And Julian's back. That's all I need to hear right there. Like, what the.

[Michael]

Like this guy. Like really?

[Host]

I mean, the level. I mean, taking somebody's life is such a serious thing. Somebody ringing your doorbell at 11 o' clock at night, can that be super irritating? Maybe the person had a really stressful day. Maybe they're in the middle of an argument. Or maybe their life is just going to. And they've gone to sleep and they wake up and it's super. You're angry and frustrated. Does any of that justify taking an 11 year old's life. Like, no. Yeah, like I have. I don't know anything about the person who did that, but like there is no justification in the world. Two kids running away from you and you shoot one of them in the back. No, you're done.

[Michael]

Yeah. No. Well, on the fact that like there's no way he didn't know it was a child because it's pretty. Well, I guess. I don't know.

[Host]

Here's what he did. It's hard to say what he didn't know. Here's to say what he did know. His doorbell was rung when he answered it. Nobody was there because they were running down the street. He chose to walk to the edge of his property.

[Michael]

Yeah.

[Host]

And shoot somebody moving in the opposite direction. Good luck trying to justify that as any level of self defense.

[Michael]

Yeah, that's.

[Host]

Yeah, that's what he did know. He did know that there was no existential threat that was barreling down the hallway at him. Buddy mine sent me a video the day of a guy, here's something. In the middle of the night, he's clearing his house and encountered a black bear in his kitchen.

[Michael]

Yeah.

[Host]

Smoked it. Yeah, that's way different than Ding Dong. Maybe they rang it five times. I mean they rang it 10. Maybe they rang until the guy was screaming at him and it's like, what is the worst case scenario? You're frustrated, irritated, losing sleep. So let's go end the life of an 11 year old. There's no way you're taking whole life ahead of him. Yeah. I mean, come on. Anyways, thanks for really ending it on a high note.

[Michael]

Yeah, great.

[Host]

Okay. That's all I have.

[Michael]

That's all I have.

[Host]

Cool. Until the next time you mess up like tomorrow. Totally.