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On this episode of The Closing Time Podcast, host Kyle McCort sits down with two of the most respected names in real estate investing—RJ Pepino and Dave Payerchin. As the powerhouse duo behind The CREAM (Columbus Real Estate And Money), they’ve built more than just a massive Facebook group—they’ve built a thriving community where local real estate pros collaborate, educate, and close deals together.

But RJ and Dave aren’t just about business—they’re deeply passionate about the mindset behind success. In this episode, they break down how to stay grounded when things go wrong, what it truly takes to win big, and why mental and physical well-being are non-negotiables if you want long-term success. From bouncing back after losses to daily habits that keep them sharp, this conversation is packed with practical wisdom, real talk, and a heavy dose of inspiration.

Whether you’re an investor, agent, or entrepreneur, this episode is your reminder that the inner game is the real game.

Mindset is the Investment: Winning in Life & Real Estate