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Z
This is an Iheart podcast. Guaranteed human.
Be Here
The volume.
Mook
Recap.
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Most these be cap been around the world and we now hood and we good. How the gay nasty we that who that you that Mike that malk Lou that crew back give me 50ft. You better move back. Cause we don't run from adversity. Where they do that at. Missing the shots we going to shoot back. These is true stats bust them white laces with the shoes black. I guess the tension is new crack. Hey it's 5:20 in the morning. But you already knew that.
Mook
Good morning. It's 5:20 in the morning.
Be Here
My jacket on.
Mook
We already saw him for man. Shout out to Boost mobile. You know the vibes control your love on that new iPhone 17. Yeah, we going to have a good party today for sure. Shout out to Hard Rock B here had a later hit last week. I know you got another one this week, brother.
Jeff
Yeah, for sure.
Be Here
Lou.
Jeff
Got it locked and loaded, baby.
Z
We here we we talking about football today.
Be Here
Know that. Yes sir.
Mook
On a Monday morning. You know the vibe everybody pulled up.
Be Here
I got to work somewhere.
Mook
It was some good games though. He got a little free time.
Be Here
Look, I got keep the lights on.
Z
He got a lot of free time. You know who don't got free time? Who? 49ers.
Mook
Shout out to my boy Rock Purdy put. Yeah, we'll talk about the military mad at him.
Jeff
My boy Trent, they came out the NBA young boy.
Be Here
Yeah.
Z
Middle get healthy boy. I'm sorry that happened to you.
Mook
Yeah man, we'll talk about that game later. Shout out to these. Supposed to be talking about all pro all. Because they're all protein.
Be Here
Let's start with all protein. Let's start all protein.
Mook
My bad, my bad.
Be Here
This the real. Listen, they got a lot of, you know, different end of the season accolades. There's a lot of stuff. I mean but this is the highest honor in my opinion that you get as an active player AP all pro. It go back to you know what I'm saying? What if usually you got Matt Stafford first team quarterback. That's low key single in that he's probably gonna get that MVP more times than not. The first team all pro quarterback is gonna get that MVP before we move on.
Mook
How crazy would it be if say Drake May gets it over Matthew Stafford? He's not first team all pro. Cause like Dwight Howard, you know what I'm saying, didn't get DPOI and he was first team all defense. Like shit like that. Is that an anomaly in the NFL?
Be Here
It happens. I think it it might have actually just happened a couple years maybe last year. I think Lamar might have got the first team all Pro and Josh Allen got mvp. It had happened. The quarterback spot.
Mook
This.
Be Here
That's one of the hardest honors that you could get in the NFL's first team All Pro. At quarterback. Cause it's only one spot. So you literally gotta be the best quarterback in the NFL the whole season. I ain't mad at it. So that's a tough Joan bijan juice, puka, JSN.
Mook
Yeah.
Be Here
Jamar. Yeah, they put the All Pro there. McCaffrey. McCaffrey went crazy this year. Yeah.
Mook
That made up that position for him to win awards. But respect, I'm here to spread hate today. Yeah.
Be Here
I think he had almost 100 catches, bro.
Mook
Then why did he get running back then? Because that's a position play.
Be Here
Because he got a hundred catches, bro. He touched the ball more than anybody else in the league. Pause.
T
That is a madeup award though.
Mook
It's a made up position.
T
All purpose is not a position.
Be Here
Edge rush. Shout out to Al Gar.
Jeff
Players get drafted as an athlete, they.
T
Still have a position, bro.
Jeff
Who they get drafted as athletes though.
T
The position is not athlete. It's whatever position you play that says all purpose, bro.
Jeff
That's the same thing.
Be Here
Y' all really need to stop cuz y' all just the forward label on a lot of y' all just say, oh, he's a wing. He's a slasher. What is a slasher?
Jeff
What is a wing is a small forward, bro.
Be Here
Cap, bro. Y' all find the way put basketball. I'm just saying Y Y Y always judging the sport. Don't. I don't. I don't judge y' all sport till y. Jud is a 2, 3.
T
We know that. We we talking about purpose literally is not a position.
Mook
Shout out to CMC though.
Be Here
Shout out to Will Anderson.
Mook
Yeah.
T
Everybody else got a position up to.
Be Here
Well, Micah. Micah got that first team on pro.
Z
Interior lineman, Inter lineman.
Mook
Yeah.
Be Here
What? Alicia, that's confusing to you?
Z
No, it ain't confusing. I'm just saying Tennessee was so ass that they got somebody all pro.
Be Here
No, listen, I'm g tell you this. Jeffrey Simm over there on that shit all year like he was out there whamming out. They would be losing by whatever and he out there real life tripping like he the brothers too. Shout out to that.
Z
That's what I'm saying. So this why it's okay to be a football player. Cause your team can be ass and you can still be All Pro. NBA is fucking quiet. Could never be an All Star.
Be Here
No. If you really putting up the. But it's different. So understand something. If y' all defense is not that great, right? And you at D tackle, bro, they are triple teaming him. It's four people on him and he is out there really wrecking the game.
Mook
He's out there wild. I'm just saying that they were so bad that he was still.
Z
He's good as fuck.
Mook
I don't know his brother.
Be Here
But killing, he's just that good. That's what I'm saying.
Z
Okay? Yeah, but the fact that you can make All Pro on the worst team.
Jeff
He'S saying that's impossible in the NBA.
Z
Impossible in the NBA. Impossible.
Be Here
I don't think.
Z
Let me say this.
Be Here
That's because every one player in basketball has that much more of effect on the game. You know what I'm saying? That's more of a. It's only five of y' all out there. So if one person is really just going for 45 every night, like y' all have to win. Unless like the whole team is really like point shaving. But you know.
Z
No, you don't. It's people that average 35 on the worst team in the league. Zach LaVine literally is only one of the worst teams. He averaged under 30 points.
Be Here
He still be an all Star sometimes.
Z
Fuck no.
Mook
Only person he got that was Brad Bill when he was in Washington. They was real bad. He was still Denver averaging 30. So they had to. But yeah, it get tricky. But I understand what you're saying, Z. Yeah, a lot more effect.
Be Here
Jordan Brooks led the league in tackle. Shout out to Jordan Brooks. That's a good joint for him.
Mook
Derrick Singh Jr had a hell of a season for sure.
Be Here
Cooper, Dejan Quin slot cornerback.
Z
It's a position all these he with allegedly wrestling.
Mook
Oh sh. Cooper, Kyle Hamilton.
Z
What's her name?
Be Here
No, I can't let y do y' all let me do that to the NBA.
Mook
Don't do that.
Be Here
No, no, no, we ain't doing that. That's crazy. That's why I like don't do that. Cuz every time I be like that, he. What's the name? No, no, no.
Jeff
We ain't doing it.
Be Here
We ain't doing it. We ain't doing.
Jeff
Do your.
Be Here
You right.
Z
They white though. They like knock out each other and stuff.
Be Here
You got allegations on you gang.
Mook
They like, they like outside.
Z
They like outside with each other. Respect. Nikki Bella. It ain't a bad Bella, you know what I mean?
Be Here
Yeah, that's crazy. Chill. My bad. We keep going. What's the second team? Or that's only the first team. First team only matter then.
Mook
Hey, man, shout out to everybody.
Z
We really do second teams over here.
Mook
We ain't mad at Trey McBride. Should have been unanimous. George Killer is amazing. Get well soon is my boy. But Traymond, bro, I still got that unanimous slot. My opinion, help us. He's dope.
T
Who you got for mvp? Z. Matt Stafford.
Be Here
Yeah, but I'm voting. If I was a voter, I'm voting like not even like honorably like to me, Matt Stafford give him this mvp. Not saying they give it to him. He deserve it, but he on the back end. This probably gonna help him get that first ballot. You know what I mean? Put him in that upper room. Drake, man, his second year.
T
Yeah, first ballot anyway.
Be Here
Well, yeah, yeah. But that MVP gonna put him in another convo. You know what I'm saying? So then you give him that Drake. God. A long, long time to get that John. So I'm gonna probably give it to the old hit just cause he been doing it. But Drake may definitely, probably. Well, I mean, he looked great last night too, but we get into that too. Shout out to Q Nelly.
Mook
Yeah.
Be Here
All Pro every year he been in the league. That's very different. Elite All Pro Pro every single year he'd been in the league. That's like different generational.
Mook
Shout out to my boy George Piggs. Getting that all pro for show James Cook up there for Buffalo. Hell of a season. I'm mad at jt, you know.
Be Here
Yeah, they burnt. They burnt.
Mook
Season ended a little bit rough for him to get that out. But he definitely should have been in that conversation for sure, bro.
Be Here
Yeah, he started off balling. He led the league. He was third in rushing, led the league in touchdowns. I mean, I get. I. But when they. You gotta. The thing is, you gotta cook when they voting. That's the. That's really what it comes down to. Like timing. Yes. Like the NFL season so long. Like y' all don't even remember who was nice in September. Was he? Yeah, I don't even remember I remember, but he went for 200 about two weeks ago. And that's what. That's what really be mattering. You got to cook at the end when they voting. Because when they voting, it's like, oh, recency by same thing with Pro Bowl. Like if you catch a pick doing Pro bowl voting. Oh, yeah. That's what you needed right there. You make a good play during probo voting. That's what you need right there. But unless you, like, really.
Mook
It's weak as hell, though.
T
So I did all this shit all year, and all y' all care about is this time?
Be Here
Yeah. Cause the end of the end of the year, everything just mean more. Like in the fl, it's like September, October, cool. But all right, them December plays, those the ones that we gonna talk about for a long, long time anymore.
Mook
Yeah. Especially if them performances get your team to the playoffs and put you over and above.
Be Here
Or against.
Z
Or against.
Be Here
Like, again, like, say. All right, you might not have made no noise first two months, but then say you book Matt Stafford two games in one game, two times. Whoa, hold on. Stafford look like he about to be mvp.
T
Nah, that's different.
Jeff
Look at all the shit they did at the beginning of the year.
Be Here
See, here y' all go. Here y' all go.
Jeff
No, I'm saying, though, that's fact, though. That's just saying what, you know, for mvp, week four.
Be Here
Don't do this, please. Let's not do this.
Z
Week eight, he second.
T
We could do this, cuz we was.
Be Here
That's real crazy that you.
Jeff
He was. Week eight.
Be Here
That's real crazy.
Jeff
They was seven and one.
Be Here
But the whole time I was telling you. I was telling y' all this the whole time. At least I was consistent. I was.
Mook
Respect.
Be Here
Shout out to Nelly, man. Man, he on everything.
Z
All purpose. Second. Yeah, that's crazy.
Be Here
You gonna give him two Jo. I mean, now it's okay to kill.
Mook
Cuz when I just said.
Be Here
Made up his position, he just gave him two spots. I'm. I'm saying. But Bijan is crazy. I'm not Bijan crazy.
Z
He do a lot.
Be Here
But at the same.
Z
We had a debate who's the best running back in the league? And I said, jt, I'm S. Bijon. Yes, we was here. I was rooting for the Falcons, and.
Mook
I said that was one of his teams.
Z
He crazy.
Be Here
B did something different, though.
Z
You said JT Was. And there's no shade to jt.
Mook
But stop, stop.
Be Here
James Cook end up leading the league in Russian. That's why.
Z
Oh, that's James.
Be Here
He end up leading the league in Russian. He end up leading the league in Russian. Shout out to James Cook, too.
Z
So who third team? They got 13.
Be Here
Can you please stop?
Jeff
Does it go all the way to fifth?
Mook
Yeah. Out of pocket.
Z
Oh, it's only two.
Jeff
Okay.
Z
See, the NBA got third team.
Be Here
That's why everybody get that. That's why all y'.
Jeff
All.
Be Here
That's why everybody. That's why everybody Getting. Don't do that cuz I go team. We don't have to do this today.
Z
It was 100.
Be Here
We don't have to do this today. We don't have to be this guy.
Z
To make the team.
Be Here
That's why everybod. That's why. Look, don't do this. Let's stop Monday.
Mook
Stop worthy conversation.
T
It wasn't his fault, bro.
Z
It could have been the best back can you on the first or second team.
Mook
What's wrong with him?
Be Here
You know what? We deserve this T. You know you said about the NFL is val we deserve.
Mook
We would not disrespect John this fight. Don't ever. Don't ever disrespect.
Z
You the only one could wear seven in Atlanta besides Vic. Like he let you wear it because you like that, bro.
Mook
Respect. Shout out to B. John for sure. Let's get straight to it, man. These Bears comeback victory over the Packers 3127. Shout out to the Gary Bears. They was down 21 nights.
Z
Gary Bears East Chicago Bears back in Chicago.
Be Here
They got word Slip one time too. Like they. They win like they got. You be seeing Tremaine and them. Yeah, they gotta let it slip one time. They thought about it too. Today after coming back and beating the Packers.
Mook
They better not.
Be Here
They gotta let one slip, huh? They gotta let it slip one time. Nope.
Mook
Don't do it.
Jeff
No, I'm trying.
T
It was slip, bro.
Be Here
They be every game. They was a young child in Chicago. They got let that go.
Mook
Legendary child.
Z
Chief Keith. Hey, man.
Mook
Your man, Mr. Love. He showed out, man. He had four TDs. Not enough, man. Haley Wilson got it done. 361 2. Tug, go ahead. Love the highlights of this game.
Be Here
Hardest thing in the league is to hold the early lead, bro. Hardest, hardest thing, bro.
Z
Damn.
Be Here
Getting up that early, that fast to the flat. Christian Watson.
Z
Yeah, I ain't going.
Be Here
Don't get beat to the flat. Don't get beat to the flat.
Jeff
He was fucking them up too.
Z
We were supposed to get them about.
Be Here
Shout out to Swift. For sure. Shout out to Swift. Yes, sir. That was big. That's a tough joint. He got it going. This young boy first touchdown. He a rookie.
Mook
And that's so disrespectful to sports.
Be Here
Great ball. Good though. Shout out to DJ Philly in the building putting on. Yes, sir.
Jeff
That was insane.
Mook
Mr. Fool Porter himself.
Be Here
Man, that was a tough drawing, bro.
Mook
Hell, man.
Be Here
I try to tell Caleb is real different though, bro. Like.
Mook
Early on that been on the bandwagon talking about it. But you the first I seen speak about. That's the people.
T
They don't want to talk about it.
Be Here
This is one of the most athletic throws I've ever seen, bro. Run it back. Run it back one time.
Z
I ain't gonna lie.
Mook
That crazy.
Be Here
Run it back. Running back right there.
Z
I'm surprised he ain't tear his ab.
Be Here
That's what I'm saying. Like to throw that across gotta be crazy. And it's on the money, though, bro. That's a dot, gang.
T
That's a dot IN clutch situation.
Z
Yeah.
Mook
And that's a fourth down. Talk to me, bro.
Be Here
That was on fourth down, bro.
T
Give him every dollar. He worth it all, bro.
Mook
All right. So who we playing for this loss? Let's get to it. Your team one of them.
Z
Don't do that. My team won't.
T
Oh, oh.
Mook
Now you don't rock the packers because they lost.
Z
This is disgusting work.
Mook
This is nasty.
Z
I like the fact they don't got Aaron Rodgers no more. Who cares?
Be Here
That's crazy.
Mook
Two weeks ago.
Z
I'm a 49ers fan through and through, bro.
Be Here
Through and through.
Mook
Aaron Rodgers has been gone for this team for a minute, by the way. Longer than we been doing this show.
Z
It's hard. Michael Parson got hurt. Don't count.
Be Here
No, that's crazy.
Jeff
That's true, though.
Be Here
That's a big loss.
Z
Taylor Wilson would have been back there moving and grooving like that.
Mook
21 3. It's on, y'. All.
T
It might be some truth in that, though.
Be Here
Yeah.
T
Taylor Wilson wouldn't have been moving like that.
Be Here
I like that.
Mook
He was first.
Be Here
He would have been. It would have been him and Micah doing the dance, but he'd have been moving for sure.
T
But they would did dance.
Mook
I agree.
Be Here
What about Wayne? Why Wayne, Just don't be dissing. Come on, Wayne. Wayne, put lock your phone.
Z
Yeah.
Be Here
Wayne.
Z
Wayne. Go crazy.
Be Here
Go crazy.
Mook
Wayne.
Be Here
Don't diss the young boy like that. It's just funny. Every time Kel do something, everybody bring up the nail polish. That's low hanging fruit.
Mook
Yeah, but disrespectful double entendre. Yeah, man. Give us up to the Packers. Matt LaFlore. Is that.
Be Here
That just. That just released? Oh, that's a good drum man for a good coach, man.
Mook
Yeah, they said the back and forth basically saying they don't know if they was going to keep him as a coach. I don't know why they wouldn't. Yeah, but if he's not, then he's.
Z
Gonna be the coach. Yeah. I don't mind mad we take hardball, man.
Mook
I'm cool. I'm kp.
Be Here
I'm rocking with Green Bay. Some of these organizations is like, the Green Bay is an offensive organization. So, like, they need an offensive coach. Yeah.
Mook
Damn. Give us something to the packers, man.
Z
Let's get to the real game.
Mook
Okay, we'll get to the real game.
Be Here
There we go.
Z
Because everybody said, come back.
Mook
Victory against the Eagles, 23 to 19. Man. Brock Purdy. 262. Two tugs, two interceptions. Jalen Hurts.
T
168.
Mook
168.
Z
My boy. Brock Purdy.
Jeff
Hamstring, bro. His hamstring is up. Who is Jayla Hurst at the end.
Z
Of the game, did he play?
T
But I ain't. I ain't even all the way mad at him. AJ can't catch a cold.
Mook
Oh, what are we doing?
T
He been. That's why you can't talk, bro. Talking all that now.
Mook
You can't.
Jeff
You can. You can. You can.
T
You gotta. Then like this happen, bros.
Jeff
He gotta go.
Be Here
I like Nick, though. I like. I like Nick like that.
Z
Yeah, he gone.
Jeff
Aj.
Z
You. You.
Be Here
You've won, aj.
Z
It's time to go back to Tennessee.
Be Here
Time to go tennis. No help. Don't come back over here. Go. Go somewhere.
Jeff
Go ahead.
Be Here
Go ahead and get it. Get like that, though.
Jeff
Go where you celebrate, bro. Y' all just wasn't a vibe all year.
Mook
Yeah, listen, man, y' all won last year. Rough season this year. Yeah, Happy with y'. All. Go ahead. Love the hollacs in this man. Give us one of George Kelly.
Z
Is he a game changer or game manager?
Be Here
I don't.
Z
But I'm.
Be Here
I'm with. I'm with game manager.
Mook
I'm.
Be Here
I'm with. Who's it. Being a game managers. Shannon even said being a game manager is not a bad thing.
Jeff
Good block.
Mook
Oh, this is crazy, huh?
Be Here
No, this is crazy.
Z
It's what we do.
T
We treating them like little kids.
Be Here
Well, I would have been on Twitter, but it's cool. Don't worry about it. Yeah, I don't think being a game manager is a bad thing.
Z
That's a good thing.
Be Here
I don't really, like. I don't look at it as a disrespectful thing.
Z
I just keep winning with all my best receivers, my star players getting hurt.
T
What's wrong with that? I don't see nothing wrong. Look at him.
Z
He's such a dog.
Jeff
It's more of a game changer.
Mook
Running back like that.
Z
He's such a dog.
T
If I manage the game, I Can still manage for us to get wins, bro.
Be Here
This is what I'm saying though. It's like crazy some people. He's a game manager. Yeah.
Jeff
Caleb is a game changer.
T
Yes, bro. When the passes he making them is game changing plays.
Z
Ron Cardi made that pass.
Be Here
But everybody's not everybody not a playmaker though. Do you just. That's like saying just because you, you're not a playmaker, you're not a good point guard. That's not necessarily true. Some guys just know how to make the right pass at the right moment and know how to manipulate the defense in that way. Other guys could come and move the defense based off of what they doing and then make the right play. You know what I mean? It's almost the same thing. That don't make you necessarily. I mean some of them more God given talent but some, some people play a lot longer and more successful being able to execute.
Z
The game managers play longer.
Mook
Yeah, they do.
T
You hit your check down.
Be Here
Theoretically, but at the same time. So it's like we gonna get to it. But Josh Allen, Josh Allen got a hamstring knee. Yeah. Broken hand. He got all kind of stuff. And what people always misunderstand about guys like Josh Allen and Patrick Mahomes is yes, they run around, they make a bunch of plays, but they could stand in the pocket and compete as well. Like Josh Allen sat in the pocket and made throw at the throw at the throw.
T
Like that's Jalen Hurst's problem. He don't want to stand in the pocket, bro. He always try to run out to that right side, bro. You gotta stay in the pocket sometimes, bro. Cut off half the field.
Z
Hey, super bowl champ. Get, get healthy, bro.
T
Said it, bro. He cutting off half his field every time he do that.
Be Here
Yeah.
Z
Don't. They don't scroll past this game real fast. I know we got some more highlights to this beautiful game.
Mook
Oh yeah. We can talk about. No, we don't. We can talk about the, the offseason for the Eagles. Obviously AJ's probably gone. He talk to the media. I imagine he probably won't be there next year. He got though super bowl hangover. I ain't mad at. They still made it to the playoffs. They ain't got nothing to be mad about.
Z
Let's talk about how we just keep winning and we keep losing our star players.
Be Here
I will give you San Fr. Now when they lost Kittle, first of all I knew, I knew the San Fran was gonna come out on some dog on dog timing. I know that it's a rivalry because.
Z
You remember how they did stop.
Be Here
See every time we tried, you try. It's not about me.
T
Oh I thought when Kittle got hurt, you know it was over, bro.
Mook
Yeah, it's about 49.
Be Here
That one hurt a little way, bro. I'm still grieving, bro.
T
They didn't hurt half. They did.
Jeff
So that's game changing.
T
No.
Z
Yeah bro. You.
Jeff
How are you calling me a manager and I'm losing everybody and still.
Be Here
He'S making plays. He's making a lot of. Without killing him. Like that was a tough. That was a tough jo.
T
His offense to the te, bro.
Jeff
Yeah. With different.
Mook
Every game I got somebody fair to.
Jeff
Call me a game manager.
Z
Cuz it's.
Be Here
Like a derogatory term calling somebody a game manager. Such negative. But you can understand though. You can understand it's difference though. It's difference. But he. He do make plays. He creates with his legs.
T
He do a lot make a play or something. God damn you. Starting quarterback in the field. Come on, you'll make some plays.
Be Here
Give a little more credit than that.
Jeff
No, he's good.
T
I'm not saying he's not cold.
Jeff
He's not regular at all, bro.
Mook
Not regular.
Z
I'm top 10. He's not regular.
Be Here
He is top 10 for sure.
Mook
I don't like teams, bro. But the 49ers didn't punt for like a month.
Z
Come on, bro. I'm top 10.
Mook
That shit's crazy. They went.
Be Here
Brady was game managing his first three.
Z
Different.
Mook
I know that he got.
Be Here
But I actually hall of Fame game manager literally don't mess this up.
Z
Literally just do not turn the ball.
Mook
I'm always.
Z
Listen get us a field goal every time.
T
Tom Brady runs his offensive.
Jeff
Tom Brady did that with multiple receivers too.
T
But he runs his offensive teams.
Mook
That's the goat though.
Be Here
This another thing I'm going say with pie too though bro. That defense is that it's the defense though. Like a lot of the game manager tags get put on people who offense is just good with a great defense like his defense, obviously they still producing. They made the play to win the game. But the injuries that they went through on that side of the ball like for him to continue to lead and stuff. I think also being a leader and being able to rally like you said. Those new guys in the huddle like you down your. You know what I'm saying, your left tackle and Trent. I know Trent played this week but he was down them a lot of the season. Losing Kittle. Kittle's a leader in that. You Know, Jon, you know what I'm saying?
T
I got a question.
Be Here
You getting all those guys rallied and getting to execute, that's there's a talent in there.
Mook
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T
What is Jalen Hurts?
Be Here
What do you mean he wins? He's a Super bowl mvp. That's what he is.
T
You asked is he a game manager or a game. So what?
Z
So is Tom Brady.
T
They say he the a. A gang manager.
Jeff
No, all that mook. Answer the question. Change your manager.
Be Here
But you. We just had this conversation about you saying that game manager is a negative. Negative?
Mook
I didn't say that.
Be Here
Don't do me like that. Look, I'm moving around. I had this hood on. I said damn. I got the wrong colors on it though. I'm banging the wrong n. You was good. You was game manager. Know me better than they know. Let's tighten up. Let's tighten up. I walk around My, I'm good in the neighood. We a 12D.
Z
We ain't got to do that on you straight.
Be Here
We going to keep it cool. We going to keep it cool, though. I'm good in all hoods though, for sure. Shout out the North.
Mook
We getting super chat right quick. All right. What's up, fellas? Question for Z. Is Herbert really that good? Every time I see the playoffs, he end up looking silly. Speaking of silly, you continue that conversation. Shout out Justin Herbert.
Jeff
See you go.
Be Here
Shout out to Herbert, man. Shout out to Herbert.
Mook
Hey, I ain't going to L lie. Justin Herbert's talented, but it's time for a conversation. Bull.
Z
He's not better than Purdy, bro.
Mook
Out for a conversation, bro. I don't want to hear no more Justin Herbert. Top 10 till you get a playoff. We talk about this with everybody else. I know that the talent is there. I know the skills there. I don't want to hear top 10 till you get a playoff game, bro. We do it again, everybody. At this point, you two, and I mean 02 in the playoffs. I got to see something, bro.
T
Facts.
Mook
Three points, not enough.
T
Facts. That's horrible.
Be Here
New England team is hot, though. England.
Mook
New England team is amazing.
T
Points, though, bro.
Mook
Not enough, bro.
Be Here
Drake may look good. Drake may. Might be ready though, huh?
T
Drake May. He Patriots.
Mook
You gotta respect it.
Be Here
Jerry May looks like he ready. I ain't gonna lie.
Z
He might DJ look like Caleb Williams.
Be Here
Cuz. Hold on, hold on. What's. What's that?
T
North junior?
Mook
That's your cousin?
Be Here
No, that's my man.
Mook
Go ahead. All respect me and my team. Do some PE Said Marcus is that beat. I need a feature. I'm from town Nasty Toes out here at the facility. I'm like that too. DJ Unintentionally funny as Salute Teague and Moot.
Be Here
Shout out to gang.
Jeff
Shout the north man.
Mook
Sure.
Be Here
For sure.
Mook
Y. He on the remix.
Jeff
Behead.
Mook
What's up?
Jeff
N for sure, man.
Mook
Okay. Yeah, girl. Dog. Call me Kayla Williams.
Be Here
Man.
Mook
That's crazy. You will soon to me.
Jeff
That is wild.
Mook
I'm tired of him. His last engage straight him. I'll take age over him. At least you will put up 20 shots, DJ N. Watch him mouth.
Z
That's crazy ass like your friend.
Mook
They gonna read it.
Z
That's crazy. Throw it through the free mo. Talk about throw it. That's crazy, man.
T
I tell DJ Do I'm singing a song.
Be Here
That's crazy.
Mook
Hey, this is nasty. Who you Between Miami and iu. You can read the rest of that.
Be Here
They really Trying. That's crazy.
Mook
It's a word we can't say.
Be Here
You put it on tape, bro. That's why. That's how that go, bro. You put bad film on tape. That's how they gonna do. They're gonna keep attacking.
Mook
You shout out to production team, man. No Christmas bonus.
Z
That said the meters. What is wrong with y'? All? For 212 yards, Benitus Brown going for 212. They stupid.
Mook
I want to see a JC Terrell D land match up into ones. I think DLAM's scared, bro.
T
Y' all do not want to see D land play one, so I don't either.
Jeff
They could barely walk.
Be Here
SGA made first team. Olympia Miss Playoffs are happening. That's real life.
Z
No, I don't think that happened.
Mook
They're gonna say fact check that I.
Z
Don'T made first team all NBA.
Be Here
He only did it once, right?
Z
And missed the playoffs.
Mook
Yeah, I know. So we don't know, brother. But I don't recall that.
Jeff
What was he like third team or something?
Z
He said first team, whatever that was.
Mook
Oh yeah, I got you.
Be Here
He a three time NBA first team though.
Mook
Yeah, he made it.
Z
He missed it. Damn.
Be Here
They missed the playoffs.
Z
That's a first.
Mook
Hey.
Jeff
NBA on playoffs.
Be Here
The lie detector determined that was a lie.
Z
That was a bad call.
Be Here
Shout out to the chat.
Mook
Never to the chat.
Z
Usually doesn't happen that much.
Be Here
Crazy.
Mook
Hey, something we know.
Be Here
Never and always, my brother. Never and always.
Mook
Never and always. All right, man. Moving on, man. If Bills took care of the Jags in the close one. 27, 24, man. Shout out Josh Allen. 273, 3Ts. What he did in that fourth quarter was absolutely insane. Shout out to Trevor Lawrence. He balled out as well. But he had two interceptions and the last one to close out the game.
Jeff
Smoked that.
T
Smoked.
Mook
Yeah, man. He had a minute drive, no time out. We was going to see what T law was on at the crib. It got spook you real quick, man. Josh Allen made some incredible plays, especially in that, that last drive to get that. Go ahead. Touchdown. Get well soon, man. To the J, man. Hell of a season. Shout out to the Bills, man. Go ahead. This is crazy.
T
Bills going. It's the best touch push of all time.
Be Here
This is different. On fourth down too. Again.
Mook
Fourth down, fourth and inches, bro.
Be Here
That's crazy.
Mook
That's insane, bro. Could have almost been a touchdown.
T
That's just hoeing some right there, bro.
Mook
Yeah, man.
T
Flat out.
Be Here
That's. That's strong.
Jeff
NFL.
Mook
Yeah, bro.
Be Here
That's real diff, bro.
Mook
That's a tough way to lose a game.
Z
That ain't even football, man.
Mook
Yes, it is.
Z
Is that, bro? What is that, bro?
T
We about to run y' all up, stupid.
Mook
We bigger than you and we stronger than you.
Jeff
How you feel about that, Jeff?
Z
That's weak, man.
Be Here
With the play.
Z
Yeah, man, I hate it.
Be Here
Cause the Eagles do just line up and just pushing over, huh?
Jeff
Can't. We can't gather him up and just.
Z
Pick him up and dunk it. Somebody just got wimy just picking up.
Mook
I'm tell you right now, that's a sick ass. Walk around, like.
Be Here
In the lane like the queen.
Mook
They said.
Jeff
Come on.
Z
That's stupid, bro.
Mook
That was some.
Be Here
That was crazy.
Jeff
I get, too.
Z
10 yards is crazy.
Be Here
I'm asking. Do you think they thought they was gonna get 10 yards when they snapped that ball, though?
Mook
No, I'm blaming the jacks for that.
Be Here
You just. They just moved people out the way. That's what happened. They just moved other people out the way, and nobody stopped them. Yeah, man, I won't lie. I set up a little taller in my chair once they lost. Man, I ain't. I'm. I'm off that, though, Jay. Look, they got me this year, but I felt good. Look, made my day.
Mook
Hey, I ain't mad at it. Nothing like seeing your ops lose. Can't wait till the four 9ers lose the ops. Five from the bottom, bro. Don't you worry.
Be Here
I almost want my chain today. I'm g. Let you go to you, right?
Z
Don't do that. I'm just saying.
Be Here
No, but Josh Allen look great, though.
Mook
Nah.
Be Here
Yeah, Josh Allen look great. Look like I forgot that. Not forgot, but I just underestimated. Like, when you get to the playoffs. They had a graphic up before the playoffs started yesterday. All quarterbacks, bro, come down playoffs, come back down to quarterback play. And by far, Josh Allen still is the best quarterback in the playoffs. He gonna make that difference every time. So.
Mook
Yeah, the plays that he was making yesterday, like I said, 40 yards, back shoulder, back foot, it didn't matter, bro. He's like that for real, man.
T
It's a chance, bro.
Mook
Yeah. And not for nothing, despite that last play, the Jags played pretty well.
Be Here
Jags played great game, I thought. I ain't gonna lie to Jags. All jokes aside, the Jags was actually my. My dark. They were just a hot team. I mean, just playing complimentary ball. I mean, they run defense.
Mook
Yeah.
Be Here
Was elite. Stopped the number one rusher in the league, obviously, with James Cook and even Josh Allen. So Definitely had a. I mean, you know what I mean, tip your head to them. But Josh Allen made the difference for sure.
Mook
I asked this question because we had a lot of close games this weekend. We're talking about the Rams and Panthers next. But is there a thing of scoring too early? I know you want time, possession, especially in the fourth, but like you got to get touched on how you can. But you've seen all these times, we've seen all the vets walk these young boys down and they didn't even have enough chance to respond or able to. Is it like a time of possession? It's more important than the fourth in the score in your opinion, bro?
Be Here
It's so funny because I was actually talking to my pops about it. So they got on the fourth of inches, it's about a minute left. They get on a half an inch yard line and it's a minute, it's about a minute left. I'm thinking to myself, I'm like, man, that is a little bit too much time. Now Jacksonville had no time out, so I'm like, man, do you technically run another play? But if you just did a quarterback sneak and got 10 yards, you have to run quarterback sneak again just cause I'm rolling, you just, you know what I mean? So you just had to. But I think a little bit of that was also a little bit of gamesmanship by Jacksonville. In that standpoint, you really better off just letting Buffalo score so you can get the ball back. With a minute left, you down three, you got a chance to either tie, to go to overtime or go win the game. So that's just kind of like the game within the game. But yeah, I think that's why it always comes down to quarterback. Because, you know, it's funny, me and my boys texting each other back and forth, it's like, all right, Caleb Williams, legacy drive. Okay? Jordan Love, legacy drive. Trevor Lawrence back and forth, back and forth. Because at the end of the day, it comes down to the quarterback executing and running a two minute offense.
Z
Damn. Hey, don't that suck though? Like that you gotta be saying that instead of playing stinky.
Be Here
You know what? This is the Lord's plan, you know what I mean?
Z
But there are days where I'd be like, damn, bro, really? Like he about to go for the third chip, bro. I remember them days. But then when I was going for the chip, I was like, damn, I don't got nobody text, I'm going for the chip.
Be Here
You got the chip. You ain't play though.
Z
I mean, we Play by the same minutes.
Be Here
Who, me and you saying I. No, I play every snap.
Z
No, I'm saying.
Be Here
I'm saying when I play the game, I play every snap.
Z
I'm saying, your playoff run.
Be Here
I'm saying, you know, I play. You know, I play every game, though.
Z
Well, yeah, but you play for no reason.
Be Here
No, that's not true.
Z
I'm literally just playing for the money.
Be Here
Okay, that's crazy.
Jeff
Not for the love of the game.
Z
He can't win nothing. He with us right now, people going over meetings.
Be Here
That's crazy. You know what?
Mook
I'll give you that.
Be Here
I will. Look, I will say. I will say. I had to turn that off.
Jeff
I did.
Be Here
Look, I'm watching the pregame. I'm watching that. I'm like, man, I turned it off. I did. That hurt. I'm like real life depressed, though, so. I appreciate that. Yeah, I'm like, kind of sad, but it's okay.
Mook
Worry about.
Z
Laugh at your pain.
Be Here
For sure. For sure.
Mook
But it's cool.
Be Here
But my eyes lost. I'm kind of happy.
Mook
Respect.
Be Here
I'm kind of happy.
Mook
So I'm cool about happiness and hate, brother.
Be Here
Yeah. Hope I get a little happier today.
Mook
But let's keep going. Rams and Panthers was enough. Close game.
Z
We lost officials. I still ain't recovered. Why you so mad, cuz? Never mind. I'll tell you later.
Mook
Shout out to Pike. Rams and Panthers. Another close game. Panthers had a chance to get that match, man, but Matthew Stafford, he liked that for sure, man. Good season for the Panthers, man.
Jeff
Almost let me down, boy.
Be Here
Nah, the Panthers. I knew there was gonna be a better game.
Jeff
I did.
Mook
You said what he said about Rams.
Z
Was gonna blow the Panthers.
Be Here
Nah, I knew the Panthers could run the ball. That's the difference. If you could run the ball in the NFL, you always got a chance. And they got a real rushing attack.
Jeff
Yeah, that's just.
Be Here
I'm not mad at that. I'm not mad at what he said either. Young boy signed, turned up at running back, really took over. And then they, you know, they started playing politics. Stopped giving him the ball.
Mook
Yeah.
Be Here
Cause he was going in a free agency and they already had somebody that was paying. So I'm not mad at that, but. Cause I definitely feel like he had the momentum and the talent to change their game. I mean, he. The reason that he kind of helped kickstart them their run.
Mook
So he's the reason why they started winning games. Respectfully, Bryce Young showed up, but that defense played amazing all year. But from an offensive standpoint, Rico been Killing all year long, right? Yeah.
Be Here
So Bryce also looked good too, man. It was good to see Bryce in the playoffs on that stage, I feel like. You know what I mean? Another example how you got to continue to believe in a young quarterback. Keep giving them opportunities especially.
Z
Come on, man. Y' all keep believing in my boy.
Be Here
Can you stop?
Jeff
He had a decent game.
Z
Bryce Young, my boy, man. Hey, Rich is right there, bro. He right there. Y' all believed in Bryce Young? Believe in average.
Be Here
Shout out to. Shout out to gvo. Shout out to gvo. That's my brother for sure.
Mook
Shout out to Bryce. All right, moving on.
Be Here
You are just a messy person.
Mook
Yeah.
Be Here
You crazy boy. Why did he acting like that fight. He had fishes. Now, now, now. I got beautiful fishes. I'm already still on cards. Tripping, tripping. Damn.
Z
No, that's for real though. You got. You gotta give up on your quarterback. Like on Bryce on a young player.
Mook
For real though.
Be Here
No, you can't. I think it's a. I actually think it's 100%. But I also feel like sometimes these guys have to go through these type of experiences to learn to grow that way. They approach their next situation just from a different perspective, different angle. Same thing with, you know, it's all over. Sam Darnold, Baker Mayfield, Daniel Jones. I think the stuff that he went through in New York, he came to Indy with a different energy, you know what I mean? I think he was able to produce the same way. But to your point, we ain't had no damn quarterback, bro. So this shit come down to quarterback and we had no quarterback.
Z
Yeah. Who you talking about? The Colts?
Be Here
Yes.
Mook
Yeah. N was hurt.
Be Here
Everyone want to talk about the coats. We lost. We suck. It is than this, but one thing.
Mook
I will say is they only like they didn't have the media that we have today. Because back in there, like Payton's first years, we knew Payton was the one. But they was ass like you had years for your quarterback to develop and become something. Now, especially for a high pick, you got a couple years and boy that.
Z
Boy the league in reception, right?
Mook
That all over the place a lot.
Be Here
I mean even. It's so funny. I forgot. I'm in the locker room one time, me and Philip just talking. Philip didn't play for this first three years. He was behind Drew Brees. I said, damn, he was in league a long ass time game. People don't remember Drew Brees played for the Chargers. So he was telling me about his whole. His journey. How he had to sit for the first three years he didn't play and like just what that was like, you know what I mean? Learning and growing and developing. So it's like that quarterback development definitely happens sometimes. You get guys like Caleb, like Jayna Daniels, like Drake May who come out they ready. But a lot more times than not, some of these guys, they gonna have highs and lows. Like even Jaden Daniels, like he was banged up this year. He gotta figure that out. You know what I mean? But Drake, Drake May definitely. Nah, cj. CJ came out was ready too.
Z
Yeah, I'm saying he came out ready.
Be Here
But he had Lowe's last year.
Mook
Yeah. Patriots and Chargers. Man. 16:3. Nothing special. Talk about, man. Give us one to the Chargers. Patriots took care of business to move on. All right, tonight we got Texans at Steelers. Are we feeling Texans?
Z
Still curtain. Still curtain.
Jeff
Steelers, baby.
Mook
I'm wrong with the Steelers. I mean I'm wrong with the Texas tonight. That Texas defense is real. DK is back though. DK is back. So they will make a difference with Steelers in the last couple weeks. But I'm wrong with the Texas tonight, man. We will see what happens.
Be Here
Shout out my dog Speed. Hope he make a play. But I got a spot in Turks for you, my brother. Don't worry about it.
Mook
Just in case.
Be Here
That's my brother though. That's my butter though.
Z
You see how don't get the chance to play ready for you to be out. That's some.
Be Here
I want my man this man.
Jeff
I do.
Be Here
I want my man this man. I that's I've been consistent. I want my manus man.
Mook
That's a fact.
Z
Golly, bro. He already sent them the villas and there type of crazy we here game.
Mook
That's crazy, man. Get well some my dogs. All right, man. Let's get on to the NBA.
Be Here
Play basketball no more the real sport. Y' all can't Hawks couldn't wait to get rid of trade. Y' all couldn't wait to get rid of trade. Y' all dirty for that too.
Z
By the way, they play well dirty for that.
Mook
Hey, I've been seeing.
Be Here
Nasty I'm ruining against the Hawks now.
Mook
Oh yeah.
Z
I don't like how they doing that. As soon as he left. Now they won't play serious.
Be Here
That's what I'm saying now Y we got him like come on, bro. He was caring. They want to play serious. I love the death train.
Z
I'm like look like they playing for purpose, boy.
Mook
Hey, that's crazy, man. The kill walk Alexander had 2411 and six big old had 1812 and eight. Steph had 31. Jimmy had 37. 16.
Z
Go ahead.
Mook
The highlights, man. That's a different team killing the first half.
Jeff
Different team.
Z
Yeah. Big O was playing well.
Mook
Yeah.
Jeff
Wow.
Z
He killed on the road, too. That's what I was like. Damn.
Mook
Is your man. You was talking bad about him getting season been locked in.
Z
He was shitty at the beginning, but now. Hey, mip boy.
Mook
17 the first half.
Z
Mip man Gold stay ass, though.
Mook
Yeah.
Jeff
Hell no.
T
They are.
Jeff
No, y' all better not say that. That don't diminish the Hawks win. No, y' all was.
Be Here
I thought y' all been saying the Warrior sad all year, though.
Jeff
Who I have them is day you.
Be Here
Been saying the warriors is sad, man. The Hawks like that cuz they beat a sad team.
T
The warriors is sad, bro.
Jeff
But y' all crazy.
Mook
Go ahead, load it up, cuz. This disrespectful.
Jeff
That's how much y' all hate the Hawks.
Mook
That's so disrespectful.
Jeff
Fade away, Highlights. They got the ass kicked.
T
It's more entertaining. N looks good.
Mook
Look at that.
T
Ain't nobody in the Hogs doing that.
Z
That's so too.
Mook
That's. That's crazy.
Be Here
That was.
T
Ain't nobody doing that on the horse, folks. They traded the.
Be Here
Oh, no. Get up, Jimmy.
Mook
So disrespectful. I don't gotta look at it, bro.
Be Here
He lowkey looked like they like he look a lot of times. He don't look that one. That one.
Jeff
He look that one.
Be Here
He Loki look. He Loki look. Look, look.
T
N. He looked. He looked afterwards.
Mook
Hey, we would never diminish Steph Curry in this broadcast. I don't care what y' all never.
Jeff
I never but show the who won highlights, bro.
Mook
We did a have many, bro.
Be Here
They played see Talking so bad about the Hawks. Then they win one game now. Now they who talk bad about the Hogs.
Jeff
I don't either.
Be Here
Y' all couldn't wait to get bro escape. Go, my man, bro.
Mook
Yeah. I can't wait to pull up 60.
Be Here
On y' all something crazy.
Z
Get 60 on him, too.
Jeff
No for sure.
Mook
All right.
Z
Mip always here for a revenge game.
Mook
Mip T. Jalen Johnson. Denny AIA KE George Denny aia.
Z
Mip is Walker and K Alex Alexander Walker.
Jeff
They go off this list. They better give it to Jalen Johnson. Even though I hate that award. But.
T
Went from 5. What do you average last year?
Z
He averaged like 18, 20 then the.
Mook
Ivy numbers are insane.
T
He averaged 27 now.
Jeff
Man, look at this. Numbers, bro.
Mook
Pull up IV numbers any Ivy numbers is crazy, though.
Be Here
All right.
Z
He was hooping last year, though.
Mook
He just got hurt.
Jeff
23. 10, 8 on 52%. 27.
T
6, 7 and 7.
Be Here
26.
Mook
7 to 7.
Jeff
My stats better than yours.
T
You average 23 by my team.
Z
Better. Average.
Jeff
See, now winning don't matter.
Z
Your team not better.
T
Our team.
Be Here
Damn.
Jeff
They're the same.
Z
They the same.
Jeff
Jaylen Johnson's team is better. The same. Jay Johnson has won more games than this this year, bro.
T
Yeah, but the Hawks is sad. And we sack.
Mook
We both said, oh, no.
Be Here
Yeah, they got the same record. They got the same record.
Mook
And our coach went fed, bro. So wait, though.
Be Here
Portland. Portland. In the play, y' all mentioned Chauncey.
Jeff
Bill was one more. He got fired.
Mook
Third game, he's not fired.
Be Here
So he could come back.
T
You average 23. I average 26, bro.
Z
I got in a kill. Alexander walker. You averaged nine last year. He had like 20.
Jeff
And we missed our best player, bro. I've been killing, holding down.
Z
I think he the mip.
T
He been the best player.
Mook
All right, man.
Z
Him or Ryan Rollins.
Be Here
Wait, why you don't like MIP, though?
Jeff
I just think, bro. Good Samaritan Award.
Z
20 points a game last year.
Be Here
Getting better.
T
Yeah, he.
Be Here
He in the running.
Mook
Congrats. Will do your job, become a better player.
Be Here
Congratulations.
Jeff
I got MIP in the NFL.
Be Here
No, come back. But it's not the same thing.
Jeff
Yeah, how about.
Z
Yeah, it's not last year. Yeah, I got him for most improved, for sure.
Mook
Ryan Rollins been balling.
Jeff
That's been killing Ryan.
Mook
Ryan Deontay George has to be in the conversation.
Jeff
Yeah, he's short, killer.
Mook
Let us know in the chat who y' all feeling, man.
Z
Yeah. Fact.
Mook
Shout out to the Hawks. Getting the dub for sure.
T
Ryan Rollins.
Mook
All right, man. Moving on to Thunder. Took care of the heat yesterday. 124 to 112sga. Light day, 29, 8 and 5. J Dub had 18, 4 and 4, Chad had 16 to 10, Wiggins had 23, and Tyler Hero had 19. Go ahead, load up the SJ highlights, man.
T
Pal, Mushy be out putting in work.
Be Here
They back. They off that slump, huh?
Jeff
They still going to lose.
Mook
Yeah, they back on road, bro. Yeah, bro. I do what I want.
Be Here
Pick a roll with Caruso. That's what I'm saying. That's. That's Jeff and Mook right there.
Jeff
Who? Caruso.
T
Crazy. I be cr.
Z
So.
Jeff
Make him.
Be Here
Make him pick, bro.
Jeff
Off the double. Best player in the NBA.
Mook
Like work.
Be Here
Be here light. It's easy.
Mook
Got more highlights from this Eric Wiggins.
Be Here
You said that they figured SGA out. Didn't you say that?
Jeff
No, no, they never did.
T
I said, okay, see, I ain't say sga.
Be Here
Nobody did.
T
They never figure him.
Mook
Ain't mad at it.
Z
Wiggins ain't gonna be on that team very long.
Mook
No, he will not. And Raj Mitchell will be gone for sure. They cannot afford him. Bad boy had six yesterday. They have been saying the Heat hasn't been playing as well. I don't know if this is propaganda or not, but y' all better be grateful that y' all have a player like Bambi. I see I trade 14 a year.
Z
Bam B. He don't really be killing.
T
Don't, bro.
Z
He's just a good player, a good defender, bro.
T
Yeah, he's like.
Z
He not a star.
Unknown
It's 5:20 in the morning.
Be Here
Out the gate.
T
How you.
Be Here
What?
Mook
Out the gate? Yeah, I need a little bit better percentage there, but 17 to 10.
Z
He's a good player.
Jeff
That's your boy.
Be Here
Number from what's his. What was his joint last year, though?
T
Facts.
Z
Evan Mobley, he a good complimentary piece.
T
Yeah, he can't be your guy, but he a good piece.
Be Here
Yeah, that's consistent. Everybody consistent.
Z
Yeah, he like a good complimentary Curry piece. I mean, he's still a quality player. Could be an All Star, fringe All star, you know what I mean?
Be Here
Yeah, that was his piece, it looked like, though.
Z
But I think if they get John Morant some new blood in there that can run pick and rolls with him and stuff like that. Yeah, I think he step up. I just don't think he playing with a pure point guard right now.
T
I'm only 6 8. True.
Mook
And bro, yeah, MPZ ain't getting assists, bro. We ain't over getting assists.
Jeff
Tyler Hero not know they need to stop center.
Mook
He's getting off the rim, bro.
Jeff
I don't want to be a 6A center in the NBA.
Mook
That's a job, bro.
Z
He a four.
Be Here
Yeah, I need four.
Jeff
Yeah, I need to be a strong.
Mook
I agree, Jeff. They get more of a guard who can create to pick a row for them. I think life would be easier. But don't trade BAM2 yet.
T
They actually really need John Mar.
Z
Yeah, Facts.
Mook
I'm rolling. Let's get going.
Z
Point guards.
Mook
Yeah, that's true. Yeah, they are. Trey, Lamelo, Johnson. American point guards is getting devalued.
Jeff
Devaluing them for sure.
Be Here
What they moving towards that's going to fuck up basketball.
Z
They trying to make it a. Obviously it's a Euro more European Style game. But they just don't want to pay short people no.
Be Here
More like a point forward type of thing.
Mook
Yeah.
Be Here
Or they just feel like. Don't know.
Z
They start going towards the Lucas like Lucas a point forward.
Be Here
They feel like nobody need to initiate.
Mook
They just don't want to pay.
T
I'll be honest.
Be Here
They just want like the ball to free flowing. They just don't want to. Want one person to have it.
Jeff
Yeah, just point forward.
Mook
They just don't want nobody forward.
T
Honestly.
Mook
That's what they want.
Be Here
They don't want p. They can handle the ball.
Mook
It's like the longevity ain't worth the money. I give you a max deal at 27, 28 and you 6162 by 30. You ain't going to hold up.
Z
Yeah, four like your ceiling just too.
T
That's why it fell victim too.
Mook
Yes.
T
Just short.
Mook
They're putting a cap on your. Your money early. Basically. Like we. We can't afford to have you at this position at 50 mil and you six foot.
Jeff
Like.
Z
Yeah, I can't win with my star player being a point guard.
Be Here
Well, I feel like, like y' all.
Z
Said, they're gonna make point guards complimentary pieces.
Be Here
You get. You get the. You get the right point guard, they elevate everybody play though.
Z
They don't think that's worth 100.
Be Here
Ain't on that.
T
No, that's that old school basketball.
Be Here
You know what it is though? I feel like that's. Cause y' all point guards now ain't leaders though. I feel like the old point guard used to always be like the leader of the team. He making all the numbers. When he walking up the court and all that. I was like, now y', all, they the leader. They the leader. They lead. They leaders at the strip club now. You feel me? Y' all point guards be tripping.
Mook
But you know what it is, Z? Because they made po guards become scores. So then you say, oh, I want you to run a team. Well, you just told me I had an average starter to be in this position because that's what the trend was. Now it's like, what you want me to do now? Yeah, I got to be tall now.
T
Stockton, they have to average 30.
Be Here
Truth.
Mook
Yeah, they want Eric Snows again. They don't want no more killers at the pg, man.
Be Here
It's snow in the Philly.
Z
They do. They just want scores at the pg. Like they rather have a Keante George who like six, five.
Jeff
Yeah, yeah.
Z
Be the point guard can score and they can justify. Like I can get give Him, I know he can play for another five years. I know he can switch on defense. I know he can do this. I know he can do that. But if you six foot and you not defensive mind and you just a score, they're going to start moving you to the side. Like he going to be a specialty player.
Jeff
Yeah, like Colin Sexton. He's a specialty player.
Be Here
But they, I feel like they always they going to say that until you need a point guard to run the show in the playoffs.
Z
Because the way basketball is trending, people are so tall now and so skilled that you can kind of place people. People. Places like Jalen. Like we just said Jalen Johnson, they like Trey Young. We can trade him now because Jalen Johnson can basically run point guard. He averaged what, eight assists. Yeah, we can put the ball in this dude hand. We can switch every pick and roll. We don't ever gotta worry about somebody being hidden on defense. We can do all that and then our smaller, shorter player can be our scorer. Kill Alexander Walker.
T
The big man skill set is messing up basketball. Like Wimby being 7 5, bro. And being a shoot guard.
Be Here
Thanks.
T
It's up basketball.
Z
Yeah, they like. No, we can put the ball in this kid hand 37.
Be Here
Yeah.
Mook
All Star for sure. Shout out Jalen Johnson, man.
Z
Put the ball in Dyson Daniel Hand. He's 66 and he can guard.
Be Here
Ben Simmons started this.
T
I feel that though. I'm going with the tall person.
Mook
Ben Simmons back.
Be Here
Ben Simmons was an all star for a minute.
Mook
We will never forget what Ben Simmons was.
Be Here
Ben Simmons run was elite.
Z
You just got to be so dynamic. If you going to be a short, you got to be Jalen Brunson, bro.
Be Here
And you got to be punching like K. 68. K is 68, bro.
Mook
27, 7 and 10. Yeah, bro.
T
I know my model. Take the tall person, bro. Every time guard me.
Z
I hate that because I'm a short guard and I don't know what it.
Jeff
Was like, but yeah, shout out to Jeremiah Ferris, man.
T
But imagine you really having to guard Ben Simmons.
Z
You can't. I couldn't.
Jeff
You could have guard him.
Z
JJ Reddick.
T
I'm talking about the real Ben Simmons. Can I guard him? Too small. He's 16, bro.
Jeff
I just want to hear you speak high him.
T
Oh, he was a dog. We ain't gonna act like he was a dog.
Mook
But never forget, it's different now.
Be Here
He got burnt for a dpoy too, but I. I don't want to revisit it. But he got burnt for it.
Jeff
He did Man.
Z
Hey, mad bro.
T
Hall of fame.
Z
Better than Bam.
Be Here
Don't disrespect Bam. I'm going.
Z
It depends what you looking for.
Jeff
I'm going with J.D. that's my.
T
That's your main player, B. Bam is a main game player on the.
Mook
I'm rolling with Bell.
T
I don't know.
Be Here
It's banned, bro. That's bad.
Z
It depends what you want now.
Jeff
You want for sure.
Z
Like, you want a.
Mook
A bruiser.
Z
Like a guy that can run point. You can play through him and all.
T
Types of lockdown defender.
Z
You want Bam?
Jeff
Let me Bam Jaylen Duran lock down too.
T
Yeah, but now on the wing and.
Z
Yeah, BAM Guard 1 through 5.
Be Here
They do.
Jeff
BAM is more versatile.
Mook
Two of the best bigs in the east for sure, man.
Jeff
I'm taking Jalen.
Be Here
Hey, yo, y' all basketball heights actually started to get a little more realistic once y' all stop getting measured with shoes on, too. Don't act like they ain't noticed that either, bro.
Jeff
Why are you poking at the NBA players, bro? What's up?
Be Here
You know, it's crazy. I'm not five, nine, first of all, I'm six foot and three quarters, so I'm technically six.
Jeff
Without your shoes.
Be Here
We can't. We get match with no shoes on, bro. See, look at you. That's hate.
Jeff
Okay, but why you coming at the NBA players?
Be Here
I'm just pointing something out, though.
Jeff
Like, that was random though, cuz he was 69.
Be Here
I felt like. I felt like Bam always thought he was 610. I'm like, hold on. Oh, numbers shrinking a little bit though. But it's cool, though.
Z
It's.
Be Here
I'm like, I ain't beefing or nothing. I'm just saying, like, you feel me? Just know I'm watching.
Z
Y' all got to start just flexing y money on, bro.
Jeff
I see.
Mook
Yeah. Start telling. Hey, man, your ain't guaranteed watch out.
Be Here
Flexing your health care benefits. I ain't going to lie. You really had me in the crib thinking about that, though.
Z
That is wild.
Be Here
I'm like, damn, we don't got health care for life. And y' all do.
Z
Yeah. That's crazy.
Be Here
I could hoop.
Z
Well, I was watching that the other day.
Mook
I could hoop, bro.
Jeff
You put your life on the line every time.
Z
Rams all time great.
Mook
Stephen Jackson.
Z
No, no, no.
Be Here
With the go.
Z
Yeah, I see him talking about it.
Jeff
That's what it is.
Z
The persons and stuff.
Be Here
Oh, man.
Z
He was just saying, like, they help care only last five years after you're done playing.
Be Here
I believe so.
Z
Yeah. He was saying somebody was getting, like, y' all retirement benefits was like 250amonth or some like that.
Be Here
That might have been an OCBA, but.
Z
Yeah, some, like, older player was getting, like 250 or something.
Be Here
They had to revisit all that.
Z
Damn. Yeah.
Mook
You tap in.
Jeff
That's too high risk, bro.
Be Here
Yeah, it's all right.
T
Y' all really need it.
Be Here
I agree.
Mook
Yeah, like, what do you.
Z
Like, what do, like, a old head like him, what would he get, like, a month? Like, I'm not trying to be in their business.
Be Here
I mean, I don't know it depending what you invest in. I mean, but they got. How they pretty much try to break it down. You got several different investment things. So you almost get multiple streams of income. You know what I mean? And then the real big pot hit once you turn 45 or 50, whatever it is. I'm not that sure. But it ain't right. It ain't good enough. To be honest with you. Based off of everything that we doing. Eric Dickerson, the amount of collisions and stuff that he had going through, he need to be taken care of in this case.
Mook
Well said, man. Take care of your people, man. You ain't gonna get it right next time for sure.
Be Here
You will soon.
Mook
All right, man. Secured the spurs in the close one yesterday, 104 to 103. Behem AE23 end up the game. Dante had 197.
Jeff
Shout out to my boy T. Yeah.
Mook
He hooped out yesterday.
Z
That's crazy.
Mook
Shout out to J.R. man. He had 15, 8. Wimy had 29.
Z
7.
Mook
D. Fox had 12, 84. We got highlights with this game, man. Oh, yeah. This for you. Be here, man. We got spice on your favorite. Rudy Gobert.
Jeff
Oh, yeah.
Mook
We gonna load him up, man.
Be Here
Bald, bald, bald, bald.
Mook
The real friend.
Z
That's his man's, though.
Be Here
Yeah, that was OG Gobert can't be OG Bro.
Mook
I can't be OG they from same country.
Be Here
Everybody can't be OG, Man. Exactly.
Jeff
That's like Wendy W.
T
She is bad work. He playing with this, bro.
Z
Wy really?
Mook
L throw it off the backboard.
Be Here
That's crazy.
T
Throw that off the glass.
Jeff
That, man.
Mook
Wimy not replace person, bro.
Be Here
No, he's not.
Jeff
Neither is go.
Z
He look just like the kid.
Jeff
He should have throw it off the glass like Teabag.
Be Here
He could if he fell.
Mook
Hey, man, good game. W. A call game, man. Load it up. Shout out to our guy. One of the best clothes in the NBA, man.
Be Here
Come here.
Mook
W. W Too, too. Heavies.
Be Here
Good screen.
Mook
Good Seal.
T
Nice.
Mook
Yeah, man.
Jeff
Special, man. Special.
Z
Well, Minnesota rocking. It's fun though. I ain't going to lie. They crowd fun when they Minnesota do.
Be Here
Minnesota do got good fan base.
Z
Yeah, they do got good fans when that when it's rocking, it's rock.
Be Here
Yeah, man.
Z
We was sad that was empty as we was good. Yeah.
Mook
Yeah. Hey, man. Shout out to the T Wolves getting a win. All right. The Kings took care of the Rockets yesterday. 11198 snapping seven game losing streak. The Rockets have been struggling as of late as well. Shout out to Debo, man. He had 22, reached 26k end points. Lot of buckets, man. A lot of buckets, man. Thompson twin had 31, 13 and 6.
Z
He balled out.
Mook
KD had 23. T had 19, 9 and 4. Go ahead. Love the highlights.
T
Malik Monkman Rockers cannot score, bro. They struggle to get 100, bro.
Z
I need James Harden telling you they.
T
They offense is trash.
Mook
I'm rolling free league monkey man. Yeah. They said SEO made a business decision right here.
Be Here
Y rolling. Indeed he did, cuz he wouldn't guard nobody.
Mook
He said hey, you still want to.
Be Here
Post it too, my boy?
Mook
Oh, me?
Be Here
You should have just jump.
Z
Yeah, a lot of people can do it. Use him. He a bucket.
Mook
That was crazy. This or Thompson twin, cuz this is nasty too.
Z
Ah, I'm going with this already. Yeah, full court.
Be Here
Oh, he grabbed him though. He said no.
Mook
Come with me. Yeah, he's out.
Be Here
Mayo. He didn't know he ain't made it. 32 tried to line it up though.
T
32 clearly punched on him. God damn.
Mook
Yeah, bro.
Z
He's so fat.
Mook
Yeah, man.
T
He said I can't keep up this fast ass.
Jeff
Stop the ball, bro.
T
He was running fast.
Mook
You ain't taking a charge stop too fast, bro. Hey, that's true facts. You got do all the when you get no pt.
Z
I remember by last year they had me going full court. Get nerd turn them. What the.
Mook
Play hard J.
Z
Man, give me the out this game. All right, man.
Mook
The Rockets have been closing their games awfully. They need to make a move going forward. I know short time span of them not being too good. We ain't going.
Jeff
Okay, bro.
T
They need a point guard, bro.
Z
James Harden, bro.
Mook
James Harden.
Z
Bring him back to the rock the city missing.
Mook
Hey, man, the Clippers making moves right now. You know what I'm saying?
Z
I mean the Clippers playing well. I mean, he. They one of their best players. Probably they best player.
Mook
Yeah.
Jeff
Yeah, bro.
Z
Rockets got a chance to win, Chip.
Be Here
They g. They gonna Give to give up Too much for James, though, right?
Mook
They can figure it out. They got assets and contracts. They can figure it out.
Be Here
James at the end, y' all want John Houston. I want John Houston.
Z
John Houston.
Be Here
I want John Houston.
Z
You gota give up, too.
Mook
I don't want John Houston.
Z
You gotta give up. You gotta give Jabar.
Mook
Yeah. You gonna have to give up a.
Jeff
Big I give up a Tom swing.
Be Here
Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
Mook
So Reed, shepherd and Har eason.
Be Here
Would you do that?
Z
Getting no damn drama around with that. You gotta make the money match, though. John moran make what, 40 healthy? So you gotta.
Be Here
You still got.
Z
You gotta give Jabari and Reed, probably, yeah.
Mook
Would y' all make that deal? Jabari.
T
I ain't see you healthy, bro.
Mook
Me, I'll say right now, there's no trade at the Houston young bro.
Jeff
He not James Harden.
Be Here
Jabari re both 21 to 22.
Mook
You.
Z
You ain't getting the.
Mook
You ain't getting top. And twin boys is going to be first team.
Jeff
Y' all stingy, bro.
Be Here
Them boys is young in the league.
Z
But you gonna get. You can get Jabari, probably.
Jeff
So y' all think that's a good trade? Jabari and what's her name?
Mook
I'm not saying this a good trade. I'm saying they don't want Jo anymore.
Be Here
We ain't doing Reed shon KD with the Thompson. Y' all can make a run with that for sure. That sound. That sound like the team as is.
Z
And he only 26.
Mook
Yeah.
Z
J. Young now young, bro.
Be Here
He just play a reckless.
Z
He make 40 million.
Be Here
39.
Z
Yeah. 39. Yeah. He going to have to make that money work.
Be Here
Throw man fleet in there. You can try somebody that's hurt.
Mook
Yeah. Tripping. No, no, you got pass.
Be Here
You got to pass a physical on the day you. You pull up unless they wave it. But you know what I'm saying.
Jeff
Be having to pass physicals in the NBA, too.
Z
You pass a physical?
Jeff
Yeah.
Z
You got pass.
Mook
Yeah.
Be Here
I'm saying you trade a. That's rehabbing his.
Jeff
He be good, though. Next year.
Mook
Yeah, you can rehab here.
Be Here
All the chemistry.
Jeff
That's cool, bro.
Z
And then they trying to get off the job contract.
Mook
Yeah, bro. When we trying to get off that money, bro. You gonna do what you got to do.
Z
You think they trying to get off track contract?
Mook
Yes, bro. It's a drop the moves. Yeah.
Z
Okay. So they get off. They got right there Van V and a young player, maybe a first rounder.
Be Here
Read and reading the draft.
T
The bar can Go.
Z
That might be too much Van V.
Mook
Make a bank 25.
Be Here
He just signed a 2 year 52 for 50 light work on the table.
Mook
God bless n man. We'll see, man. All right, moving on. The Raptors took care of 76Z. Maxi 116, 115. Maxi 35. He hooped out yesterday. VJ has 17, no MB, no PG. Scotty Barnes had 318 and 7. He been balling IQ had 20, 75. Go ahead, load it up, Lou.
Jeff
Yes, bro.
Mook
Scotty Barnes had a crazy ass dunk yesterday.
Jeff
Why y not playing, bro?
Z
I like IQ game nothing.
Mook
Performing recently too.
Jeff
I don't that weak as hell. Yes, they do. Just play last game. Paul George just had 20.
T
Yeah, his knee price swell up when he woke up in the morning, bro.
Mook
They are menace restriction game restrictions them up. Scotty Barnes be doing some random crazy.
T
I think it's really be hurt, bro. Like they really play.
Jeff
They gonna play the next game.
T
Cuz they probably needed a day.
Mook
I know they lost, man. We don't care on this show.
Be Here
No, they really wearing these black jerseys too. They really throwing them.
Mook
All y need is straight, man.
Be Here
Oh, Bucky.
T
You should be able to beat the Raptors, bro.
Jeff
No, the Raptors are actually decent.
Z
See, that's why eyes don't. It don't matter for him cuz he a shooter. He scores so well.
Be Here
You feel like Maxi a true one though.
Z
N he score, he definitely a scoring ball IQ too.
T
That game that had a ball for 15 seconds.
Mook
Yeah, bro.
Z
Definitely, bro.
Be Here
N he on some. I ain't going to hold you.
Mook
He.
Be Here
He lowkey. He got the left arm band on or us leave.
Jeff
What you about to say?
Be Here
Because he giving. He trying. He giving. N see, hold on. I see what Max got going on. I see what Maxi got going. I don't like when they do that a little bit though. I didn't seen guys do this. It's not a Maxi thing. But sometimes you, you. You dress a certain way or look and just give a. You just resembling certain. So. But who though, huh? Don't do that. Come on. You got to let that breathe.
Mook
Talk about his.
Be Here
You got that jersey on. Just hold on. Keep your swag. Your swag. Don't.
Mook
Don't try day one.
Be Here
Don't try to throw the left arm band a little different. But he. He do look good though. He look good though.
Mook
Put on a trade man uniform. He to be there for sure. Hey, man, give us something to the Sixers, man. All right, moving on, man. The Knicks are car blazers 123 to 114. JB had 26, 8 and 6. OG had 24, 7. Cat 2011 heard us talking back hooping in the I. 25, 5 and 4. And Shannon Sharp had 23, 3 and 6. Got any highlights from this game?
Z
And we got Blazer highlights.
Be Here
They play all team.
Mook
Shout out Diamond Clement. Damn the block. Oh, I know what this is. Yeah.
Be Here
Excuse me.
Z
Yeah.
Mook
Shady Sharp, always doing some crazy.
Z
He got some bounce.
Be Here
Boy, that's not a tech. I thought you could hang on the rim no more.
Mook
It's safety for you to. To land this, which I think they.
Z
Should take that away.
Mook
It should be a tech, bro.
Be Here
Just hang on the rim.
T
In the NBA, though. They do.
Z
Yeah.
Mook
To go, man. Shout out to Nick, though. The Magic car, the Pelicans 1, 28, 118. Zion had 22. Trey Murphy had 21. EBay had 27. Anthony Blackman balling. He had 27 and 5, 23, 8 and 8. Yeah. Talk about it. Including them conversations, for sure. Oh, yeah, man. Shout out to JP Man. Jordan Poole is a clown for this shot, man. It's hilarious. But also shout out to dq. My boy shot the three with the left.
T
I'm cold.
Jeff
He gotta go.
Mook
Free JP Man. Free JP Man.
Be Here
Yeah.
Mook
Let my boy hoop again.
Z
You.
Be Here
He hit it. Okay.
Mook
It was like the shot clock. He had to shoot it.
Be Here
No, don't do that. Okay. When cuz shot that bull a couple weeks ago, you said it was cool.
Jeff
That's the star of the team right there.
T
Look at the whole.
Mook
With the pets.
Jeff
That's my right there.
Mook
Now Mook on the Internet, they said that was travel.
T
Mo.
Jeff
That's a great move.
T
Be traveling. That's a good move, bro.
Jeff
Was about to hate.
T
I knew that move.
Jeff
Jordan pool, get him out of here.
Mook
Free JP Man. Pretty real. For sure. All right, man. The Nuggets took care of the Bucks yesterday. 1 8, 104. Giannis had 3,111. Eight did not matter, man. Did not matter at all, man. Eric Gordon had 23, man.
Be Here
Did not matter.
Mook
Tim Hardway Jr. He had 25. Give us. Oh, yeah. The Suns beat the out the Wizards 1 1293. We will not see probably Trey Young in uniform this year. They are clearly not trying to win more games. They said that's not the plan right now. Yeah.
Be Here
For the whole year.
Mook
Yeah. They're trying to make sure they keep their pick because they have a pick that's protected and yeah, they need to keep that.
Be Here
They just outwardly said Trey. No injury designation, bro.
Mook
He has some injuries early in the season. Bro. Get all the way right, bro.
Z
We will see injury Trey Young play.
T
They will win games.
Mook
We are not on that, bro. This is one of the best draft in the last five years.
Be Here
Is that how y' all act around here?
Mook
Oh, of course.
Jeff
You a see this? Yeah, I'm with you.
Mook
This tank is blatant.
Z
To not have to play and know you about to get an extension legend.
Be Here
I don't know.
Jeff
Stadium still like China used to dance there. Syracuse.
Be Here
When I was going there, I was in Syracuse going there too.
Mook
Child mark wins. That's crazy.
Be Here
Yeah. Shout out to them. Congratulations. The Kings.
Mook
Real stadium.
Z
I seen my shots, my Phil. I seen losers monitor Shout out to and it's a.
Jeff
You would think that's a lit. It's a little dirty ass strip club too.
Be Here
Carpet dirty. Got this carpet of that city though.
T
Stadium boy.
Z
My boy Phil said, hey, man, I lived in Atlanta.
Mook
I like this better.
Z
Where you at? I'm at a place called Stadium. I beat him up there. He in there.
Jeff
It's a club right across the street from Stadium too. It was lit.
Mook
DC Tap in looking like you remember.
Z
When Bad Boys with Will Smith went to the bar. Shorty was.
Mook
Closed.
Jeff
For real. And it used to be a lit gas station. Gas station across the street.
Be Here
Definitely got too much. It's too much, too much out there.
Jeff
D.C. the brunch capital.
Be Here
You know ball then. I know a little something. Park 14 don't miss the Grizz.
Mook
Took care after this.
Be Here
Telling we telling.
Z
We'll be over there. I ain't really tapped into D.C. i just know Phil was.
Mook
That was his staple shout field, man.
Z
Close your spot down.
Be Here
Southeast.
Mook
All right, man. From the Pistons this weekend. Want to see which one y' all like better. Man, Shout out to your guy. Be here, Ron. Holler in a second.
Jeff
Crash out, baby.
Mook
Crash out. Got the break. Man.
T
That'S a windmill right there.
Mook
Okay.
T
For sure.
Mook
For sure.
Be Here
Shout out to the.
Mook
Yeah, for sure. Unfortunately, they did lose this game. But we still playing the highlights. Anyway, man.
Be Here
Good dude, man. Oh, pass was that. Yeah. Oh, watch out.
Mook
Bad pass. Good finish though.
T
We'll go get that.
Be Here
Yeah.
Mook
We don't care about west lost in the show because they definitely lost that game. Shout out to the Clippers, man. Shout out to the Pistons. Anyway.
Be Here
All right.
Mook
Mook. Back court connection, man. College basketball. Zar Djokovic went crazy this weekend.
T
Who?
Mook
Yeah, I know his name now. He jumped over in game n. Boy.
Be Here
You gotta get up.
Mook
Wow.
Z
28 probably.
T
That'S what you should be doing 28.
Mook
That's a crazy post right there, man. All right, man. Shout out to usc, man. They took care of weight. Shout out Caleb Wilson loaded up ball it out in this first half.
Be Here
Damn.
Z
Wait, our jersey's fire. We just ain't got a name on.
Jeff
The back of them with that stro mouth. Switch with.
Mook
Dunk, bro.
Jeff
That's what Twitter said, bro.
T
I A. That is all he do.
Z
You gonna see him wild before three. In the corner, pump fake, throw the other way and cut and dunk the window.
Mook
Unc, they don't know that you UNC fan. They like why we always hating on USC because of you.
Jeff
Yeah, it's fine.
Mook
Yeah, give us on, man.
Jeff
Caleb brought him back. He gone, though. He's definitely a lottery pick.
Mook
Oh, one of them for short, man. Last part, not least man. William Kyle. Man, Syracuse. This is crazy.
Be Here
About to say don't William Ky. Oh.
Z
Hey, him shout out.
Be Here
Q's been winning Lil Key, bro.
Mook
Yeah.
Z
Got 10 to 5.
Be Here
We got this win, too.
Mook
Oh, my.
Be Here
Yeah. Yeah, he like that. He got. He got that too. I watch him against Houston. He was doing his thing.
Z
Yeah, he was balling that.
Be Here
Syracuse might be turn. Might be 20 time, bro.
Mook
Oh, that's a lot, brother.
Be Here
But I'm thinking about pulling up to the game when they play Unc. Okay. Is that worth it? That good game.
T
Oh, my God.
Be Here
That's crazy out of Y'. All. But UNC. Yeah, at Syracuse.
Jeff
Yeah. Be shot by 25.
Mook
Caleb Wilson might put belt, but respect.
T
Crazy.
Be Here
Yeah. Can I gamble one college boy.
Mook
Tap in.
Be Here
Point guard right there, man.
Mook
Know so you know the man. We gonna pay the bills at all time.
Jeff
Slam.
T
And that was a nice dunk, bro.
Jeff
You shout out to 42, man.
Be Here
By the way, free Kanye too. They playing one man.
Mook
Michigan State.
Be Here
Free Kanye, bro.
Mook
He's just fine. He gonna be there next year.
Be Here
No, no, he not, bro.
Jeff
He's the best dunker in college.
T
Definitely gonna be there next year, Cuz he not playing.
Be Here
He need to play. He was leading him in squad when he coming out the best.
Mook
It's.
Z
It's cuz.
Mook
It's cuz he a freshman, man. But don't you worry. Sophomore season, he will be getting.
Be Here
Bro. Yeah.
Z
This young fell right here got bounce.
Mook
N. This is my favorite. He do some crazy on consistent basis. Hey, he's.
Jeff
He's different.
Be Here
Yeah.
Jeff
Watch this boot. It's real dunking right here.
Mook
N that last nasty doing some crazy stuff like that. Women he had. That's nasty.
T
Oh, my God.
Z
Yeah, that's Crazy.
Jeff
You don't know about him.
Z
Yeah.
Jeff
Oh, he real.
Be Here
He rose up.
Mook
That's not normal.
Be Here
Left.
Jeff
Yeah. On kenning far.
T
He almost ain't take no steps, bro.
Mook
Yeah, they beat.
T
He caught that in just one.
Mook
All season long on the lowest of keys, bro.
Jeff
He caught that Jones if he was 611.
Mook
This is crazy.
Jeff
Lottery pick.
T
How tall is he?
Z
66.
Be Here
66.
T
Play five.
Be Here
That's basketball. You dunk the ball hard. You.
Z
Shout out to AJ Bro.
Jeff
Shout out to number two, man.
Z
He told him he AJ Moya.
Mook
Shout AJ Mo, man. IU legend.
Be Here
Yeah.
Mook
Yeah, bro. He's dunking everything, bro. If you're not tapped in, bro, coin car. He's shout to him R B him verified buckets who was getting to it this weekend.
Jeff
That's a legend, man.
Z
AJ gonna text me.
Jeff
AJ was a 62 center. Oh, God, bro. That's. That was my guy. He played with him marsh madness 03.04.
T
And he held it down.
Jeff
Number two.
Mook
Bring it back.
Jeff
Scotty Barnes, man.
Z
Okay.
Mook
He Definitely about to 31. 87. Pooped out this weekend for sure. Z, where you going, man? From the NFL side, who you think had a really good weekend?
Be Here
From the NFL side? Yeah. Who.
Mook
Who'd you verify a bucket to?
Be Here
Verify a bucket? I'm going 49ers.
Jeff
Give it to Caleb, bro.
Be Here
I was about to say. I got to go. Caleb, bro. I know you that. That playoff moment comeback win at home. And that fourth down throw. Barry Lee. I gotta go. Caleb, bro.
Mook
Bears ain't been for a while, man. Shout out to the Bears, man. D, I know you happy, man. Gary Bears. T, where you going?
Be Here
I had to do that, D. I'm.
Z
Gonna go with the 49ers, bro. We down team the whole squad. Five bucket, bro. Kittle goes out. Brock Purdy steps up.
Jeff
Can't hate on, bro.
Mook
How did he step up if he started? He was a starting quarterback.
Z
Come off the bench. No, he stepped up because our guys went down. Yo, yo, safety blanket out there. Killer went down early in the game. We rallied the troops, got a win.
Mook
Respect, man. Shout out to the 49ers, man.
Z
On the road cold. You know we from the bay. You know it ain't that cold.
Mook
We don't want to hear that, man. We going to talk about that episode.
Z
It was 8 degr outside.
Be Here
I don't really want to hold Jeff camp. Y' all come on, bro.
Jeff
When it's cold outside. The coach closed the stadium. They was playing them.
Be Here
We need. I'm an outside dog, though. Don't do that my best.
Z
The field is trash.
Mook
Why do I have to be cold?
Be Here
I'm an outside dog. I ain't going to lie. I don't want to give it up to my bro. We need to open that roof a little bit more. Shout out. Jim would just open that joint whenever he wanted to. You on the way to the stadium and drop it. No, it's over. You gotta go back to the crib, change. Cuz he just tweaked it out on Sunday morning. I, like, I missed that. Like, open it up. N. That's one. You know. It's real, though. I love playing outside. That's my favorite games.
Z
They got a good field out there in Philly.
Be Here
The Link. It's one of the best stadiums in my opinion.
Mook
The 49ers, they doing some research about that power plant near y' all stadium.
Be Here
They keep this. And you. You heard my man kb man mention something about it? Yeah, they said they got the power plan. I don't know.
Mook
Out there cheating, man. Mook, where you going, bro?
T
Max Maxi.
Mook
38.
Be Here
38.
T
5.
Mook
Let's go. Me and Thompson, man. I'm gonna show some love. 31, 13, 6. You did all you were supposed to, man. Shout out to yanis. He had 31 and 11. All right, man, before we get up out of here, we gotta talk about it. The Hoosiers vs. Miami Z. How you feeling, brother?
Be Here
Mendoza?
Mook
They putting a lot of smut on his name, saying he ain't real. Showing up every game.
Be Here
I'm gonna tell you what.
T
That's.
Be Here
Those are definitely that, boy. But we gotta get some love to Carson Beck, bro. I ain't gonna lie. I wasn't the biggest Carson Beck fan, to be honest with you. But, man, he. He carrying that team. He making good throws. I mean, he old as hell, but he doing his thing, bro, for sure.
T
Shout out to Carson Beck. Cause I thought he was sad, too.
Be Here
It just feel. It feel like he been playing. Sometimes it just be feeling like you've been playing forever, gang. I'm like, damn, I done seen your ass.
T
30.
Z
I think he's the same age as Mendoza.
T
Mendoza, are you by seven, though?
Z
Mendoza, like 23.
Mook
It's crazy. Miami could have happened, though. Cause he from Miami.
Be Here
Mendoza from Miami. He Colombian.
T
They beat the fuck out these.
Be Here
They did.
Jeff
They made some.
Be Here
I didn't even get a chance to watch the game. By the time I put the game on, it was 35.
Mook
I knew it was gonna get wicked, boy.
Be Here
I ain't gonna lie, bro.
Mook
They like that. They went in the Trenches. They got running backs who don't give a damn.
Be Here
Miami got them dogs. Wait to see Tony on that. On that stage.
Mook
A dog. Their receivers is crazy.
Be Here
56. They put a 56 incompletions. Yeah. For 25 TDS.
Z
He got eight touchdowns, five incompletions in the playoffs.
Be Here
Yeah, he's cooking. He's number one overall for sure.
Mook
Like they said, Dante Moore might have been, you know what I'm saying, Competing. But after what he's doing in this campaign, it's hard to look over him though. Let some workout stuff go crazy. It'll probably be in my opinion.
Be Here
I think he still come out. Cuz like I saw Ty Simpson, the quarterback from Alabama. He declared. They said that he had an offer for 6 million to stay in college.
T
I would have took that.
Z
Wow.
Be Here
But if you think about it though, if you're a quarterback, first of all, it's a quarterback driven league. Even if you not that great most of the time, you still gonna go first round at least top 15. You gonna get 40 million guaranteed at signing. So like. And the chance of you going, you might go back get that six for sure. But then if you have a bad year, you fall all the way off. That's you sad. Whereas though you go into the NFL, you be sad for four, five years, you still gonna get that 40, still gonna hit. And you got a chance to go hit for the 50 a year score sooner. So that's real in my opinion. But I get it. It's all math.
Mook
Yeah. All right. Be here. Did you see our guy DJ Lagway? Where he going to Baylor.
Jeff
I don't want to take no money out of my boy pocket, bro.
Z
He going to the Baylor.
Jeff
I'm just glad you're a part of Florida. You was doing us a disservice out there, man. Go on the Baylor man go to a running back.
Mook
The running back for the Ducks was in the portal. Like playing like he was in the.
Be Here
Portal while he was killing too.
Mook
But he's in portal. Why he was seeing it the entire game.
Be Here
That's crazy.
Z
Somebody from Miami going to iu, ain't they?
Be Here
He already committed the transfer to IU after the game or before the game.
Z
Somebody from Miami is like supposed to be going to iu.
Mook
That's crazy.
Be Here
That's crazy. They gotta change that Portal might have.
Z
Made that up, but I was gna say I feel like I seen it.
Be Here
Shout out to the Ole Miss quarterback too. Though he put on. Though he put on.
Z
He.
Mook
I don't know why he was Trying to have another year in college, boy, just tell me that's cuz.
Be Here
He was trying to run up that bread, but yeah, he outside.
Mook
No, you're outside.
Be Here
You got to come outside.
Mook
You in the draft, brother.
Jeff
He's 25.
Z
He's 28.
Mook
Yeah, he just took a year.
Be Here
Crazy. They don't even got birthdays off.
Jeff
I can't stand college.
Be Here
23, my bad.
Jeff
That's fair, that's fair.
Mook
That's time to go to the league, bro.
Be Here
August, he gonna turn 24, rookie.
Z
And that's a good players like him, they say he's like a sixth, seventh round pick.
Be Here
Cause he ain't got no hype. He came from D2. Honestly, a lot of sports, especially NFL's, like, they consistently trying to make themselves right. So like, it's funny because I found out like a couple people we was looking it up, we was like, who on you know in the league was five star athletes? Like being a five star in high school really travel with you forever. Like, you know what I'm saying? You got quarterbacks who don't be who be sad because, oh, he transferred from lsu, then he transferred here. And you be like, oh, he was the number two quarterback in his class. And it's kind of like when y' all was in high school, ain't no telling who you was playing, what camp you went to to get the hundreds.
Mook
Of it didn't matter no more.
Be Here
But you know, he came from D2. He wasn't supposed to be doing that. But he a good player, bro. Every year is a guy that's underlooked. Underlooked, underrated. Get a chance to show out in the pro days and get to meet in the teams and stuff.
Jeff
So that's what's fire about football.
Z
Yeah, that shit don't matter in basketball. Like your pedigree five star in high school, most of them dudes be trash, don't give.
Mook
Yeah, nobody hurts you in basketball. Cause you get hunted.
Be Here
That'll help. That comes all the way to the league. I done seen somebody be a first round pick or a high draft pick. Not really produced and like on a. Well, he was a five star in high school. I'm like, in high school, nigga. That was six years, bro. Yeah, but that's how that go. But let me ask y' all this though. Y' all think if Archie Declare, you think he'd be number one?
Z
No, he'd be top five.
Be Here
I'm talking about quarterback. You don't think he'd be number one quarterback coming out?
Z
Nope. Yeah, I do.
Mook
He gonna be a first round pick, though. Somebody gonna draft Arch?
Z
I think he'd be the number one pick.
Mook
I don't think he'd be number one, but I think he a first round pick. He would get drafted no more.
Be Here
I'm gonna tell y' all this right now.
Z
Number one.
Be Here
I'm telling y' all this right. The same way I was talking y about Caleb right now. I'm telling y'.
Mook
All.
Be Here
Y' all underestimate what the hype train do to the NFL draft every year. Every year. Not saying Archie. Definitely raw as hell. They gonna get in front of them coaches, somebody gonna like them scout reports, gonna start sneaking out. Oh, he hangs out with his old line. Every Wednesday. He took him to Ribs. Did that like three times. Next thing you know, trying to tell.
Jeff
You, hey, I think he going hot.
Z
He going back.
Be Here
I think he would have went number one if he would have declared. In my personal opinion, even unless Mendoza. Mendoza get the national championship. There's nothing to talk about, though. Heisman national championship. You're going number one.
Mook
I'm Roland Z. All right, man. Let's get a super chat before we get out of here. Jeff, please tell us what was going through your mind when Embiid and Cat fought and me and Simmons put Cat.
Z
In the head box, Huh? I don't remember.
Be Here
You was on that team.
Mook
Yeah, yeah. It's a funny clip. You grabbing and beat.
Jeff
Oh, I do remember that.
Z
Oh, yeah.
Be Here
You in every scuffle, bro. You really a troublemaker, bro. What is wrong with you, bro?
Jeff
You trying to break it.
Z
I broke it up. I'm the one that threw and be big ass on the ground. Big ass on.
Be Here
You got anger issues, bro.
Mook
Mix you in so many. Have you seen this highlight? Now, wait till we play it, bro.
Be Here
You so many altercations, bro.
Jeff
Name of the game.
Z
I grew up.
Be Here
Oh, my God.
T
My.
Z
My siblings, bro. We.
Be Here
Yeah, T. Oh, so it's really your fault. No hustle.
Z
What on the block. Hey.
Be Here
That's funny.
T
I was like, let me up.
Z
Look at Al. Al with this.
Mook
Al look like, what y' all doing?
Be Here
Why they helping him walk like he ain't 16.
Mook
Be start chasing the crowd.
Be Here
That's what makes it crazy.
Jeff
Cab being some boy.
Be Here
Look at you over on the other.
Mook
Do nothing.
T
Ain't do lip bleeding.
Be Here
Boom.
Jeff
Yeah, Cat did do something for.
Mook
Yeah, Cat got a crack record, my boy. N.
Be Here
No, you thought, man.
Jeff
Why you grab?
Be Here
Oh, yeah, okay.
Z
I go get the other. I don't care what my do.
T
Holding this.
Z
I'm like, come get your licks in.
Be Here
That is crazy, man.
Mook
Leg trying to be on purpose.
Z
I'm not going for my man.
Mook
I'm not going for my man.
Z
Look, he right there.
Mook
Nah, I need him.
Be Here
No, you look. You about to.
Z
Yeah, I'm trying be.
Jeff
That's £300.
Be Here
You was a troublemaker, though. You in the middle of every scope. Every in the NBA. That happened when you was playing. You was in the middle of it, bro.
Z
Cuz, I'm like, no problem, bro. I'm telling Cat, bro.
Mook
I'm.
Z
I got him. You better come come get your off, boy.
Be Here
What y' all said, like, obviously y' all saw. Yo, when y' all all got to y. I was laughing. Y' all saw a cat get a headlock and tap out.
Z
Oh, I was definitely. You know, I'm a wrestler fan. I was wrong.
Mook
He did like. Yeah, he.
Be Here
He did this. Like this wasn't real life, cuz he didn't have to do that.
Jeff
Yeah, he did.
Be Here
Look at his hat, though. That's crazy. That's crazy. Why he do that? So I'm saying when you do you talk to him in the locker room, you act like you a see it like how y' all carry.
Z
I was happy for that.
Mook
Locker room was different.
Z
I was happy for Cat.
Be Here
You was happy that he got choked out?
Mook
Yeah, he got a cracking.
Z
No, I was happy like fall.
Be Here
Oh, cuz he was like fighting back. You feel like.
Z
Yeah, a lot of people had been putting smut on.
T
They. They was with Cat at that time a lot.
Jeff
I know Cat had dreads. That just be doing. Cat crazy.
Mook
Come on. Come on, man.
Z
Hey, don't do my like that. He said, thanks for having my back, Jeff.
Mook
Cat, man, I with you, bro. I keep putting forever Jeff for that.
Jeff
Because that could have got dangerous.
Z
Supposed to go get his lick in, bro.
Mook
Take down playing T. SIMS. All Pro11 sexes wild. When Kyle Cor made an all star game Maverick in 12. Damn.
Be Here
Talk to him.
Jeff
That's one of Z boys for sure.
Z
What you mean?
Be Here
Hey, look, shout out to the members in the chat.
Z
All I'm saying is we won 60 games. I understand why it was. I just didn't understand that.
Mook
Yeah, I'm not reading Nasty, Neil. Yeah, you gotta get on some other, bro. Might as well be. Which player less than 6 years experience would y' all take as your franchise player?
Z
Six years. Under six.
Be Here
Less than six years wouldn't be to go.
Mook
I ain't taking nobody over with me, bro.
Z
Yeah, only one B I could think of.
Mook
Yeah, it's what it is the pick and row still working modern basketball, because it's basketball.
Z
It creates an advantage. You got two people guarding a basketball and that means somebody's open.
Be Here
Especially if they brothers like, why ask that?
Mook
Yeah, that is nasty. He asked me some dumb afterwards. He out of pocket. All right. That is crazy. Freaky. Just chat. All these short guards who can't make the NBA. Make the countless professional soccer leagues worldwide. World cup gonna change every.
Be Here
No, it's not, bro.
Mook
You out of pocket.
Be Here
No, it's not.
Mook
So go play soccer.
Be Here
It's crazy not playing soccer. Out of pocket, man.
Mook
Shout out to Hard Rock Bet be hit. You had a lay that went through last week. What you got for us tonight, brother?
Jeff
All right, man. Sixers to beat the Raptors.
Mook
Okay.
Jeff
Mavs to beat the Nets. Clippers to beat the Hornets. Jazz to beat the Cavs. And the Lakers to beat the Kings. 103,185 today.
Mook
Yeah, I will say everything on hit except for.
T
For that Jazz game.
Mook
The Jazz got beat by what, 55 points over the weekend?
Z
They did.
Be Here
That's where that Cash dude had the.
Mook
Lowest plus minus in NBA history with.
Jeff
The Hornets game last week.
Mook
It is a fact believer spacers. Yeah, that's true.
Z
He had the lowest plus minus in NBA.
Mook
Cody Williams called a straight for no reason, man. The Jazz Bailey, man.
Z
That's why I don't like plus minus, though. Cause he just happened to be in the game when they was ass.
Mook
I had nothing to do with this game. I did not give up.
Be Here
Oh, my God. They lost to the Hornets.
Mook
The Hornets whooped they ass 50. They was on get well soon today. Yeah, yeah.
Be Here
Minus 60 is crazy.
Mook
That's crazy, bro.
Be Here
Yeah. Plus minus cook for the season.
Mook
Yeah, yeah. You can't be, bro. That has nothing to do with him.
Jeff
My name.
Mook
That's what I told you, bro. George had how many points? You are awful out there. And a negative 38.
Be Here
Oh, McCarkin didn't even play.
T
Minus 60 is crazy.
Mook
That's why they got like that there. No. Excuse me.
Z
Time you was in the game, y' all was getting cooked.
Mook
You know what's crazy? The Hornets beat them so bad.
T
They like, damn.
Mook
We should never keep Lamelo. That's how bad the ass didn't play.
Jeff
Really play like 20 minutes.
Be Here
Oh, yeah. Then Lamelo go to the bench.
Mook
Yeah. They brought my boy off the bench. I don't like that.
Be Here
What made them do? They just chastise in the morning, bro. Everybody.
Mook
Everybody running it up. Yeah.
Z
So we can play in the back end.
Be Here
Is that what he said?
Mook
Yeah, that's mellow.
Z
Mellow.
Mook
I'm wrong with the mellow, bro. Shout out to Hard Bet, man. Tap in, be here and got the lay, man. Hopefully y' all hit shout out to Boost Mob. You know that new iPhone 17? They'll pull up to your crib and handle the rest.
T
This is last year, bro.
Jeff
No, it's not.
Be Here
Somebody.
Mook
Yeah, Kevin Love.
Be Here
Yeah, the same. The same millions that James St. Patrick was coming up with, he was getting from the Jazz. Money laundering, bro.
Mook
They money laundering.
Be Here
How is Kevin Love? No, Kevin Love will be in that.
Mook
Brown chair on Wednesdays and Thursdays after this year. Shout out to K. Love Legend for sure. Boy, it's almost time to come home, man.
Be Here
Sure.
Mook
Shout out to CH making money. We'll catch y' all tomorrow. 5:20 in the morning.
Z
One of the greatest people on Instagram, bro.
Be Here
The volume.
Z
Wasn'T that delicious. So good. Your bill, ladies.
Be Here
I got it.
Mook
I got it. No, I got it. Seriously.
Be Here
I insist. I insist first.
Z
Oh, don't be silly.
Mook
You don't be silly.
Be Here
People with the Wells Fargo Active Cash credit card prefer to pay because they earn unlimited 2% cash rewards on purchases. Okay. Rock, paper, scissors for it. Rock, paper, scissors.
Jeff
Shoot.
T
No.
Be Here
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Z
This is an iHeart podcast. Guaranteed Human.
Date: January 12, 2026
Hosts: Jeff Teague, DJ Wells, Bishop B Henn (plus regulars Mook and Z)
Producer: iHeartPodcasts & The Volume
This episode of “Club 520 Podcast” dives into big NFL playoff moments, heated debates about All-Pro honors, MVP races, and the contrasting legacies between “game managers” and “game changers.” The crew also breaks down NBA headlines, the state of the Warriors, candidates for Most Improved Player, short guards in today’s league, and standout college basketball performances. True to the Club 520 vibe, the show is packed with sport takes, laughs, stories, and fast-paced banter—swapping between NFL and NBA with a tone that's real, funny, and raw.
[01:45 – 10:00]
All-Pro Accolades
NBA v. NFL – Can Best Players Shine on Bad Teams?
All-Pro Standouts
MVP Race & Career Legacies
[11:37 – 24:00]
Bears Big Comeback Over Packers
Packers’ Coaching Future
49ers vs. Eagles & Brock Purdy Debate
Bills Squeeze by Jags, Josh Allen’s Greatness
Panthers vs. Rams, Player Development
[40:12 – 44:06]
Warriors’ State: Are Steph and the Warriors “Cooked”?
Most Improved Player (MIP) Conversation
Emergence of Tall Point Forwards and Devaluing Short Guards
[44:17 – 56:34]
Thunder, Heat, Magic, Pelicans, Raptors Wins
Injury/Tank Debates & Maxi’s Emerging Greatness
[68:30 – End]
College Dunk Highlights
Transfer Portal and NIL Effects
NFL Draft, Five-Star Label Hype
Bonus: Jeff Teague Recounts Breaking Up the Embiid & KAT NBA Fight
On the “all-purpose” position in football:
“All purpose is not a position.” – T [03:27]
On a legendary 4th-down throw:
“One of the most athletic throws I’ve ever seen, bro… That’s a dot, gang.” – Be Here [13:44]
On MVP honors:
“Give [Stafford] that MVP, put him in that upper room.” – Be Here [07:12]
Game manager vs. game changer QB:
“Calling somebody a game manager… is like a derogatory term. But you can understand it’s a difference.” – Be Here [20:13]
“How are you calling me a manager and I’m losing everybody and still winning?” – Jeff [19:51]
On Josh Allen:
“By far, Josh Allen still is the best quarterback in the playoffs. He gonna make that difference every time.” – Be Here [31:04]
On NBA’s shift in point guard value:
“They’re devaluing American point guards for sure.” – Jeff [47:17]
“They just don’t wanna pay short people no more.” – Z [47:21]
Steph Curry & the Warriors:
“We would never diminish Steph Curry on this broadcast.” – Mook [41:34]
On NBA Most Improved Player:
“Good Samaritan Award.” – Jeff [44:48]
On hype and the NFL draft:
“Don’t underestimate what the hype train do to the NFL draft every year.” – Be Here [81:00]
For fans who missed the episode, this one’s a must-hear for both NFL and NBA fans—full of authenticity, humor, and real sports talk. The crew stays true to Club 520’s energy: candid, competitive, and always entertaining.
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