520 in the Morning - Jeff Teague DEBATES Kobe Bryant wearing #8 vs. #24, Shedeur Sanders STRUGGLES

Summary

Club 520 Podcast — “520 in the Morning”: Jeff Teague DEBATES Kobe Bryant wearing #8 vs. #24, Shedeur Sanders STRUGGLES

Date: August 25, 2025
Hosts: Jeff Teague, DJ Wells, Lou, Mooc, Bishop

Episode Overview

This episode of Club 520 dives into a handful of hot sports debates and news, blending signature humor with genuine insight. The crew kicks off by honoring Kobe Bryant on his birthday, debating his legacy as #8 vs. #24. From there, they get into NBA rumors (including the Malik Beasley situation), the NBA Hall of Fame, the value of rings and role players, and tackle NFL preseason storylines—most notably Shedeur Sanders' struggles and systemic obstacles. The pod also covers WNBA, MLB highlights, and takes wild detours into food, glizzy etiquette, and comic debates about role player legacies.

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Main Discussion Points & Insights

Remembering Kobe Bryant: #8 or #24?

[03:44–07:16]

• The episode marks Kobe’s birthday and “Kobe Day,” discussing his 2013 highlights.
• Kobe Highlights: Jeff points out that 2013, under coach D’Antoni, was a standout year late in Kobe’s career.
• The pod watches a clip of an old-school Kobe game, marveling at his performance and stats: "This game my boy had 41, 12 assists, 6 rebounds, 11 for 22 from the field, man. 14 for 16 from the free throw line." (DJ Wells, [06:29])
• Favorite Kobe Version Debate:
  • Mooc: "Probably afro. Is that 8?" ([06:41])
  • Lou: "Yeah, I like 24." ([06:44])
  • DJ Wells: “Most definitely number eight Kobe ... Everybody had the weak ass fro because we rock with Kobe for no reason.” ([07:01])
  • Jeff: “Ah, they was both the same to me. ... Probably younger Kobe.” ([06:55])

Notable Quotes

• “The rebrand, the black mamba.” (DJ Wells, [06:47])

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NBA News & Rumors: Malik Beasley and Lost Opportunities

[07:50–12:06]

• The hosts detail Malik Beasley’s situation: he’s been cleared after a smear campaign lost him a rumored lucrative contract.
• Debate: Which team should sign Beasley now?
  • Lou: "Whoever got the most money" ([08:26])
  • Mooc: “I like him on the Magic or the Denver Nuggets.” ([08:30])
  • Jeff: “I want him to go back to Detroit ... [the coach is] familiar with him.” ([08:39])
• Discussion on the impact of rumors on NBA careers and the responsibility of teams/NBA/NBPA to make things right for players wronged by false allegations.
• Jeff: "He might have the worst luck NBA history." ([09:30])
• Also references gambling in sports and recent scandals affecting players’ reputations and income.

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Super Chats: Poster Dunks, Draymond vs. Gobert, and the Bulls’ Star Struggles

[12:06–18:28]

• Poster Dunks:
  • Lou recalls JaVale McGee's wild free-throw line dunk in his first game ([12:52])
  • Jeff: "They threw Al Thor...dunked on Zaza...I stood up and started crying laughing." ([13:02])
• Draymond Green vs. Rudy Gobert (Defender Debate):
  • All hosts pick Draymond for his versatility and ability to switch onto wings ([14:54–15:15]).
  • Jeff: “A lot of people go away from Draymond.” ([15:05])
• Why Can’t the Bulls Get Superstars?
  • Jeff: “It’s just not an appealing place no more, which is crazy…if you not from there and you a black athlete, they make it seem like it's crazy.” ([15:42–15:48])
  • Lou: Calls Chicago a dope city, but the “vibe” and “product” aren't there for attracting big stars.

Notable Quotes

• Jeff: “Everybody wanted them [Bulls] jerseys ... that's the only thing, Mooc. When you got to play for the Bull.” ([18:03])
• Mooc: “You couldn't get fresh. No shade to Adidas.” ([18:16])

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The Value of Rings: Role Players, Robert Horry & NBA Legacies

[38:50–44:10, extended through 59:00]

• After listing candidates for best “second option” in NBA history (Pippen, Kyrie, AD, KD, D-Wade, Steph, Kobe, Shaq), the crew debates individual legacies.
• Isaiah Thomas’ Take: Did KD “save” the Warriors’ legacy? Jeff brings up Isaiah’s assertion that Steph, Draymond, and Klay wouldn’t be as historically regarded without KD ([39:06–44:10]).
  • Jeff: "He was just saying, like, y'all are hall of famers and arguably some of the best players ever, but it's because of Kevin Durant. That's kind of basically what he said." ([40:49])
• Role Player Rings: Robert Horry vs. Swaggy Teammates
  • Multiple riffs about why Robert Horry’s 7 rings get less love than, say, JR Smith or Nick Young would with the same resume—the difference in “swag,” visibility, and memorable moments ([48:03–59:59]).
  • “Nobody ever brings that up in real conversation.” (Mooc, [49:01])
  • Compares Horry to Tayshaun Prince, Sheed Wallace, and hypotheticals—if JR Smith had 7 rings, “I'm saying he's the best guard of all time.” (DJ Wells, [60:13])

Memorable Moments

• Jeff on Horry: "He just wasn't swaggy, Robert Horry was... Let me think, somebody asked this, 'cause he lame, bro. Look, I ain't saying he lame…I don't know. He might have all the girls. Mad at it.” ([49:09])

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Hall of Fame Talk: LaMarcus Aldridge & Qualifications

[36:28–38:09]

• DJ Wells: “20,000 buckets…seven-time all-star. That meet the qualifications.”
• Jeff: “Well, he more than qualified...if you make all-NBA one time...you probably should be in…” ([36:28])
• The group generally agrees Aldridge is underrated due to market and lack of a “winner” tag but his consistency puts him in elite status.

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NFL Preseason: Shedeur Sanders’ Struggles & Systemic Hurdles

[69:10–73:20]

• DJ Wells: describes Shedeur’s difficult preseason, noting poor O-line play, limited real reps, and possible organizational sabotage:
  “They setting them up to fail.” (Lou, [69:56])
• Conspiracy? Eric Dickerson is quoted as saying NFL insiders warned teams not to draft Sanders, hinting at a broader bias.
  • Jeff: “Ain’t no way he dropped that far in the draft without it being some type of conspiracy.” ([71:02])
  • Mooc: “We said that out the gate, though, about him…They was hating on him from the get go.” ([71:07])
• Skepticism that Shedeur or Shilo will get truly fair NFL opportunities, with Jerry Jones named as the kind of owner who might buck league inertia.

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WNBA & MLB Quick Hits

[78:39–79:18]

• WNBA: Aces, Fever, and Storm recaps; Paige Buckets, Caitlin Clark, Kelsey Plum, and others get love (and some playful debate: “Paige Buckets had nine and nine. …CC would never…” — DJ Wells, [79:18]).
• MLB: Recaps Orioles, Braves, Dodgers, grand slams and home runs; recurring favorite moments include appreciation for historic players like Mark McGwire and light-hearted banter about glove-less catches at games.

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Lighter Moments & Food Debates

[29:11–31:39]

• Bread with spaghetti, mayo on glizzys (hot dogs), and “designer glizzys” get airtime, drawing big laughs and playful insults.
  • “You glisten the bun up...want the dog to sit right.” (Mooc, [31:32])
  • “If you do a regular one, you out of pocket.” (Mooc, [31:47])

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Notable Quotes

• On Kobe: “Most definitely number eight Kobe…Everybody had the weak ass fro because we rock with Kobe for no reason.” (DJ Wells, [07:01])
• On Role Player Rings: “Nobody ever brings that up in real conversation.” (Mooc re: Robert Horry, [49:01])
• On Beasley’s Situation: “He might have the worst luck NBA history.” (Jeff, [09:30])
• On Shedeur Sanders: “Ain’t no way he dropped that far in the draft without it being some type of conspiracy.” (Jeff, [71:02])
• On NBA Hall of Fame: “If you make all-NBA one time…and got a couple all stars, you probably should be in the Hall of Fame.” (Jeff, [36:32])
• On Bulls Superstars: “It’s just not an appealing place no more, which is crazy.” (Jeff, [15:42])

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• [03:44] Kobe Bryant #8 vs #24 & Memories
• [07:50] Malik Beasley’s NBA Reputation & Free Agency
• [12:06] Poster Dunks, Draymond vs Gobert, Bulls market challenges
• [36:28] LaMarcus Aldridge Hall of Fame debate
• [39:06] Best NBA 2nd Option & Isaiah Thomas’ KD/Warriors-legacy take
• [48:03] The Value of Role Player Rings: Robert Horry Deep-Dive
• [69:10] Shedeur Sanders NFL Struggles & Systemic Bias
• [78:39] WNBA & MLB Highlights

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Tone and Atmosphere

Comedic, casual, and packed with playful jabs. Hosts constantly roast each other, comic detours about food and old NBA moments abound. Yet, the episode offers candid, unvarnished takes on league politics, careers cut short, and the nuances of sports legacies.

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Closing Thoughts

This episode combines classic barbershop energy with genuine expertise, giving fans a mix of high-level debate, wild hypotheticals, and behind-the-scenes NBA/NFL insight. Anchored by Jeff Teague’s storytelling and the crew’s camaraderie, the debates about Kobe, Shedeur Sanders, and overlooked role players will especially connect with fans who like their sports talk both real and hilarious.

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[Mooc]

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[Jeff]

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[DJ Wells]

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[Mooc]

What's up, bro?

[DJ Wells]

So, man, everybody weekend smooth? All right, man, we back at it. I know y' all heard it already. Gonna tell you again. We live, baby. Off the court to a 520. We pulling up, man. We in Houston October 4th. ATL October 11th. The last but certainly not least, we at NYC October 16th, man. Tickets already going crazy. Tap in shot club520.com, man. Got some dope merch, man. We're gonna release more information about the tour later, but, man, let's get straight to it, man. Happy belated to Kobe Bean, man. His birthday just passed. We had Kobe day yesterday. We're gonna show the clip of 2013. My boy getting active. Arm sleeve, Kobe.

[Jeff]

It's one of his better years in the league. He was older, too. Hey, this one Dantonio is the coach.

[DJ Wells]

Yep. Dwight. I'll split that lay. Left hand, tough baseline.

[Jeff]

They actually had a squad.

[DJ Wells]

Hey. Oh, yeah, this is the Rudy Gay Raptors. They was Booty Juice. Oh, he.

[Lou]

Is Rudy Gay being the best player, equivalent to Andre Iguodala being the Best player. It's kind of similar.

[DJ Wells]

Hey, math that question. Oh, give me that. Hey, I love the unnecessary move. Step up.

[Mooc]

Rude out of pocket complaining you in the game. Ain't no time out of Nothing. You tripping.

[DJ Wells]

ISO send help. What do you do?

[Jeff]

2 and 2.

[DJ Wells]

No push offs these buckets. Hey, my boy Steve Blake all crazy. That's tough.

[Mooc]

He didn't see nobody else but the bass.

[DJ Wells]

Nah, baby. Oh yeah. It's in the double. I don't care. Hey, for game. That's tough, man. RP to Kobe Bean, man, this game my boy had 4112 assists, 6 rebounds, 11 for 22 from the field, man. 14 from 16 from the free throw line. Ask this question, who is your favorite version? What's your favorite version of Kobe? 8 or 24.

[Mooc]

Probably afro. Is that 8?

[DJ Wells]

Young Kobe.

[Lou]

Yeah, I like 24.

[DJ Wells]

The rebrand, the black mamba. How about you, T?

[Jeff]

Ah, they was both the same to me. They both good. Probably younger Kobe.

[DJ Wells]

Most definitely number eight Kobe. You know what I'm saying? With the fro. Everybody had the weak ass fro because we rock with Kobe for no reason. And the Adidas shoes and spaceships. That was the time period, bro.

[Mooc]

For sure.

[DJ Wells]

Got any favorite Kobe moments?

[Mooc]

I ain't gonna cap. No.

[Lou]

Not off the Dome 81, of course.

[DJ Wells]

Yeah.

[Lou]

That's legendary.

[Mooc]

Probably. Probably that too. Nah, probably one of them finals runs when him and Shaq was going crazy.

[Lou]

Hurt too.

[Mooc]

Yeah, yeah, probably one.

[Lou]

It really did.

[DJ Wells]

The embassy. That was fire to me for you, you know what I'm saying? To go crazy like that and then it's in a tweet disrespecting the owner of the league. That's heat.

[Jeff]

Yeah, yeah. Probably just the 81. All I could really remember, I wasn't a Lakers fan. We grew up out east, really. So I ain't really watch the Lakers like that.

[DJ Wells]

Yeah, so yeah, man, Kobe's had some moments for sure, man. Rip to the legend, for sure. We talked about this on the pod, man. But yeah, Leak Beasley, you know what I'm saying? They put that someone on his name for no reason, man. He has been officially cleared from the situation. Obviously he lost out a lot of money right now. What team you think could take Malik? Well, what team you think Malibu could go to and have a hell of an impact for next year? I've seen a lot of contenders looking to have him. He was rumored to get 342. That probably won't happen right now, unfortunately. But if he goes somewhere on a one year deal or A vet minimum deal. What team you think he could go in and make an immediate impact and get his bread again?

[Lou]

Whoever got the most money, okay?

[DJ Wells]

That's what you owe. Cause they owe, they pay for their way.

[Mooc]

I like him on the Magic or the Denver Nuggets.

[Lou]

Gotta my money up, and I ain't even do it, y'. All. Yeah, they owe most money, bro.

[Jeff]

Yeah, I. I want him to go back to Detroit because obviously Detroit was willing to pay him that money. So they like him. He had a good year there last year. Coach familiar with him. I go back to that situation and hopefully we can work something out during the year. Maybe, you know, sign a little extension or something. Might not be the same amount of money, but you might get a three year 15, so something, bro. Somebody gotta make it right.

[DJ Wells]

Somebody gotta pay with that way. I've been seeing a lot of people saying, you know, if you ain't gonna get a bad minimum, think like some of the new contenders, you got teams like Houston, you know what I'm saying? Who could benefit from having a shooter like that destruction floor other teams like you said that they use a prolific shooter because he shot the hell out of basketball last year. He's been doing it well last couple years, but I've seen Milwaukee, who benefit from somebody like him. Somebody who could just be on the wing, catch and shoot, but his skill set is universal, man. But like you said, it's crazy that that smoke was put on his name and now we find out it ain't true.

[Jeff]

Yeah, that's bad timing, man. That's. He might have the worst luck NBA history.

[Mooc]

I just think the NBA should step in and handle that, though. Like, just make that right. I know y' all be saying people don't got the. They got the money, bro.

[DJ Wells]

They can't.

[Mooc]

In a situation like that. You supposed to make some like that, right?

[Jeff]

Here's a free agent, though.

[Mooc]

Y' all would have sent me to jail and all this if I was guilty and all that.

[Jeff]

Like, yeah, somebody sacrificed the nb, the NBA, the nbpa. We're gonna step in, though.

[DJ Wells]

Yeah, you think so?

[Mooc]

Yeah, have to, bro. I get a team. Can't afford, you know, however that go.

[Lou]

But something got shake.

[Mooc]

I'm higher power, bro. Got to be like.

[Jeff]

The only thing is they can say it was rumored for you to have a 42. Like it was rumored, and that wasn't on paper. That wasn't. He didn't sign it or nothing and just running.

[Mooc]

I understand that, but am I worth that?

[Jeff]

A lot of People worth a lot.

[Mooc]

No, but I'm saying that right there. Like, I know that might have been your.

[Jeff]

It might have been your market, but, yeah, there's been people who had markets and didn't sign quick enough and they had to take less. So.

[Mooc]

But I. I agree with everything you said, but I'm just saying this situation is different.

[Jeff]

It is.

[Mooc]

The reason why I didn't sign no money is because y' all play with my name and said, right, that if you don't want to give me 40, but take care of me, bro.

[Lou]

Yeah. Cuz I was gonna sign the first day.

[Mooc]

Don't have me out here. Exactly. Don't have me out here fighting for my life again.

[DJ Wells]

I had the Sean's report loaded, bro, and y' all playing in my face. Like, you said, you're a free agent, so it's one thing, but, I mean, Detroit ain't gonna say, yeah, we was about to give him this offer sheet, or we had it formalized. If he don't have that, it's all hearsay.

[Jeff]

Yeah, I mean, Quinn Grimes asked for 100. He thought he had a sheet written up.

[Lou]

Boy, somebody get you for cheap, they gonna do it.

[DJ Wells]

1,000%.

[Mooc]

I'm signing for.

[DJ Wells]

Oh, he's still, you know, saying he's still figuring out. He's still weighing his options.

[Lou]

He's still on the low.

[Jeff]

He's still waiting for the 5 year 20.

[Mooc]

He said, I need a dub a year, except.

[Jeff]

All right, all right, so I'm saying somebody probably told him his market was.

[Lou]

20 million a year.

[Mooc]

Somebody had to.

[Jeff]

I'm saying somebody told him.

[Lou]

I heard you looked at some numbers.

[DJ Wells]

Yeah.

[Lou]

So my stats equal this? Nah, boy. You play for the Sixers. Y' all lose every night. It ain't the same.

[DJ Wells]

Yeah, bro, respect my performance, bro. I was out here, I was holding it down, bro, when everybody was gone, bro, the same.

[Jeff]

So, yeah, I hate that for him, man. Cuz obviously, if he didn't get 42, he was gonna get some money. He might got a three year 30. Whatever it was, he was gonna get money, bro. Yeah, but.

[DJ Wells]

So, man, sorry.

[Jeff]

DPA gonna step in, though.

[DJ Wells]

Yeah. I'm very interested to see how that works. Like you said, with all the. The. With gambling being so integrated with the sports stuff now, that type of rumor, like you said, especially what happened with Johnson Porter recently, that's. That's smart on your name, that's immediately getting you out of here. We already assuming you guilty before. You know what I'm saying? Proven otherwise. And we just can't have people money get messed up like that. That's tough. Yeah, that's facts for sure, man. Let's get a super chat this morning, man. Kevin C45 says. What's good, fellas? This question is for Jeff and Mooc. What's the craziest poster dunk you've seen in person? Also be him when you run the ones with kg. Who with kg?

[Mooc]

Oh, yeah. I don't want no smoke.

[DJ Wells]

It almost happened to Vegas. Boy, if we had a court back there. My boy was ready to hoop for real in that polo about the post be hitting up dunk.

[Lou]

I seen live, bro. My first game, JaVale McGee jumped from the free throw line and dunked on Joe Kelvin. That was. I got off the bench, bro. I had to sit back down. That was crazy.

[DJ Wells]

Your first game? Yes.

[Lou]

He jumped from the free throw line, bro.

[Jeff]

Would you always say about the business? That's what happened with Al Thor and dunked on Zaza. They threw out Thor and we was in Washington through Al Thor and he's running the lane. Threw it back to him, dunked on Zaza. I stood up and started crying, laughing. Etan Thomas. I love him. He cool, dude. But you know when you don't play and somebody play your position.

[Mooc]

Yeah.

[Jeff]

You be like, not hating a little bit. Like, like. And I like, stood up, like, oh, my God. He pulled me down. Hey, that was good, man. But we can't do that. You can't do that. You can't do that. We know, we like, you know, I mean, he would hate, you know, Zaza, but he was just like, you can't do that now. No, I would have blocked it. Like, you know, we're doing that. Like, you know what I'm saying? It was kind of like that, but we was laughing. He punched on Zazada now.

[DJ Wells]

Discreet Haters always funny, though. Yeah, now, good question. Got next. Super chat says how drunk was y' all and Mooc origin video just.

[Lou]

I was drunk as hell.

[Mooc]

I was slapped.

[Jeff]

What? The first part.

[Mooc]

Oh, yeah. I was slapped on that one. I had that black vodka.

[Lou]

I was screaming. I was popping the reverso.

[Mooc]

I had that reverso. Cavalli.

[Jeff]

What a time.

[DJ Wells]

It's real fall 20 days.

[Jeff]

That's when we had no cares forward.

[Mooc]

Stop resurfacing them videos too, by the way.

[DJ Wells]

Well, you know they're on YouTube. Says. Who y' all think is a better defender? Draymond or Gobert. Put up to the NYC event. So DJ will learn how to pronounce my name right for $5. I will not pronounce your name, bro. I'm just playing. Shout out to you, bro. Who y' all taking, Draymond or Rudy?

[Lou]

I like Draymond, bro. He can actually contain people. And Rudy B, people don't pick on Draymond. People pick on Rudy, bro. I think Luca pick on him.

[Mooc]

Yeah, I'll take Draymond.

[Jeff]

A lot of people go away from Draymond.

[DJ Wells]

Yeah, yeah.

[Jeff]

Draymond away. Better defender than me.

[DJ Wells]

Yeah. Dang. Well, you know what's so crazy about that? Rudy probably got more DPOIs in him, which is wild.

[Jeff]

I mean, your whole team. Defense do change. When you get Rudy. Your beard, though, y' all do become a top 10 defense in the league. Every team he's been on, Damn. They've been top 10 defense in the league, so it protects the realm.

[DJ Wells]

Yeah.

[Jeff]

So, yeah, most definitely.

[DJ Wells]

Yeah. Like you said, Draymond probably a little bit more versatile, especially where he can switch out in the wing. Good question. John Hamilton, the super chat, says, good morning, gang. What is about my Bulls besides management that we can't get any superstar to sign? Man?

[Jeff]

It's just not an appealing place no.

[Mooc]

More, which is crazy.

[Lou]

It's a good city.

[Jeff]

It's a beautiful city. But the. What? The, like, the stigma they put on it a little bit. Like, you feel like Chicago, a beautiful city, it's dope. But people, if you not from there and you a black athlete, they make it seem like it's crazy. Like, you about to give. Boy, don't go to Chicago. Like, even before I made it to the league, people used, like, when you go to Chicago, boy, don't go out. Yeah, they gonna be wilding. You know what I mean? You like? Shit, I don't wanna play in Chicago then. And then when you go there, you like. It's nice as hell.

[Mooc]

Like I said, that's where they got Jalen Rose at in Chicago.

[DJ Wells]

Yeah, I mean, they do make it.

[Lou]

Sound like that, though.

[Jeff]

Yeah.

[DJ Wells]

Yeah. Everywhere ain't. Oh block. But Chicago is a beautiful city. In that Bulls fan base, they always show up regardless of the team, good or bad.

[Lou]

Yeah.

[DJ Wells]

But, yeah, like you said, management might be the issue with that get well.

[Jeff]

So management, they don't want to sign no real. I mean, nobody want to go there.

[Mooc]

We're just gonna keep it real.

[Jeff]

Nah, it's way bigger than the pair. It's a big market like you, if you get a suit.

[Mooc]

Talking about the vibe. I know that. I'm talking about, like, the vibe.

[Jeff]

The vibe.

[Mooc]

It's hard for People to get a star. I mean, all stars here.

[Jeff]

Not a vibe you can get an all star in Chicago. It's just that they product over there so bad. Like, if you a star, why would you want to go play? No disrespect to them, but I'm gonna go play with all these young dudes that they just not. Yeah, they ain't been good. But when they had Jimmy Rondo and all, you know, I mean, they had stars. Yeah, yeah. It's a fire city. They arena lit.

[Lou]

Product right now.

[Jeff]

Yeah, yeah. And then you gotta go get a young star that's like not even a young star. Like a young dude that's like on his way of being a star if.

[Lou]

He want to play with.

[Jeff]

Yeah. That you could tell, like, like they should have traded for like your boy from the Pacers. Halliburton.

[DJ Wells]

Yeah.

[Jeff]

Like, he like, like, damn, he got potential to be a star. People like him. That might be a good piece. Yeah. I don't know who in the league like that right now. That like almost a star.

[Mooc]

Okay.

[Jeff]

That can be traded. I don't know.

[DJ Wells]

And the NBA would. Abraham. Chicago's a hell of a market for basketball as well. Like, obviously when they were good, they was always in every holiday game, Christmas games, regardless.

[Lou]

Yeah.

[DJ Wells]

Even without newbos with Jimmy, you know, it's lit.

[Jeff]

I think everybody growing up, if you over 30, you wanted to play for the Bulls.

[Mooc]

Come on, bro.

[DJ Wells]

You had to fly out, bro.

[Jeff]

Everybody wanted them jerseys. Yeah. That's the only thing like mooc. When you got to play for the bull. You were. You wasn't first, though. You couldn't get fresh. No shade to Adidas.

[Mooc]

But you.

[Jeff]

But you know, you grow up, you want to like.

[Lou]

You want to wear the Jewel.

[Jeff]

Is it a boys uniform? Yeah. Like, I used to be like, damn, my boy got them D roses on over there.

[Lou]

Me too. Shout out D Rose.

[Jeff]

But n. I used to be like.

[DJ Wells]

Boy, I wish I could put on.

[Jeff]

Some tens right now. If I play for the boy. I would have tried to hoop and everything.

[DJ Wells]

I ain't going to lie. That is far that you got your own bull jersey, bro. That's far.

[Jeff]

That is.

[DJ Wells]

That's fire.

[Mooc]

It is dope D Rose right there.

[Jeff]

Yeah, yeah.

[Mooc]

Like some boobs.

[Lou]

Very tall.

[Mooc]

Damn.

[Jeff]

They actually felt good.

[Lou]

I had to wear D Rose too, because.

[Jeff]

Well, I don't say nothing with him. His tongue out.

[Mooc]

This ain't off to the side. That's why I told you. I know what you was trying to get too, boy.

[Jeff]

Nah.

[Mooc]

Goodbye.

[Jeff]

Nah, nah.

[DJ Wells]

Different Hoop session.

[Jeff]

I always, you know, a jersey. I always like the White Bulls jersey.

[DJ Wells]

Oh, yeah. Clean, especially.

[Jeff]

I always like that jersey.

[DJ Wells]

And I usually hate on home jerseys. I hate white jerseys as a whole most times. But that.

[Jeff]

You got that jersey. Yeah, I like that jersey.

[Lou]

Green one.

[DJ Wells]

Yeah.

[Jeff]

All kinds of. It's sad. I don't got none of my jersey. I seen Ray Allen do a thing with all his jerseys.

[DJ Wells]

Yeah.

[Mooc]

You got a story for each one of them.

[Jeff]

Yeah, I don't got none of my jerseys.

[Mooc]

All the way from high school. He got game to Milwaukee, Seattle. He got a story for all this.

[Jeff]

I wish I would have kept some of my. I don't got none of them. They ain't hanging up. They weren't at the factory. I don't got them. I gave all the pace. I don't got not a Pacer jersey.

[Lou]

I'll take a lot of them. Probably got some. He took something off.

[Mooc]

I supposed to have a pike jersey.

[Jeff]

Definitely ain't got no pike jersey.

[Lou]

Ain't got no pipe.

[Jeff]

I mean, it's probably. You know, I can go look for them. Yeah.

[DJ Wells]

Hey, I'm surprised you ain't got no pike jerseys. You got your college jersey.

[Lou]

I got one.

[DJ Wells]

You got yours?

[Jeff]

Somebody stole it.

[DJ Wells]

Damn.

[Jeff]

Somebody stole it out of the storage.

[DJ Wells]

Oh, yeah. Damn, that sucks. It was on, man. Cardi J in the super chat says I was watching old clip of y' all when talking about the DJ. Turned out 3,5 hundreds of DJ at a gay event. Nobody said you had a crowd. Surf. Yeah, bro, they was tripping. Go get your paper, man.

[Jeff]

Respect that, man. What?

[DJ Wells]

Yeah. People wild.

[Jeff]

What was that?

[DJ Wells]

We said it on the pod. That dude was turned out. Yeah.

[Jeff]

Oh, for real. Y' all know, man, I ain't gonna lie. I'm keeping it trilly. I'm trill like I'm from Houston. Keeping it real with y'. All. I don't be looking at the Internet like that. Or maybe my. My joint don't be, like, popping up or something, bro.

[Mooc]

Because your algorithm a little different.

[Jeff]

Yeah, mine be my homeboy that be talking about the stars. He said, you know what's hurting me? The other day I was crying. He was like, you know, I'm just mad at the guys that and the girls who had so much potential to be stars.

[Mooc]

I told you. He do his top five.

[Jeff]

Yo, dude, it's hilarious, bro.

[DJ Wells]

He had somebody on there with him. He had a girl there with him, and he was breaking it.

[Jeff]

Yeah. Choose the tmac of our generation.

[Mooc]

Because.

[Jeff]

He really know basketball. That's what make it funny, bro.

[DJ Wells]

He said she had a skill, but she didn't have the heart.

[Jeff]

He said Ms. Trump off the court antics led her to be in a early release in the league.

[DJ Wells]

I was crying, dude.

[Jeff]

Funny, bro. You started following, bro. I had to follow you back. My wife told me I'm a weirdo. For me, the only to follow.

[DJ Wells]

He like this look.

[Jeff]

She like this look. Weird, bro.

[DJ Wells]

Oh, yeah.

[Mooc]

That'S a good call in for Club 520, y' all swear?

[Jeff]

But I got. I got exclusive. I gotta holla at my guy, man.

[Mooc]

Funny all in for him.

[DJ Wells]

He got me on video though.

[Jeff]

Only.

[DJ Wells]

Yeah, we got.

[Jeff]

But I found that he got a partner. Like, he got a homeboy that talking the same voice, bro.

[DJ Wells]

Oh, freaky duo.

[Jeff]

Yeah.

[DJ Wells]

The real back.

[Jeff]

Yeah. He got one of them with the shower cat. What the thing people be wearing the bonnets. He. He wear a bonnet in his though. They wild boys.

[DJ Wells]

Oh, yeah.

[Jeff]

They know everything. I'm like, yeah, y' all weird, bro. Y' all cool people. I don't know but like to know.

[Mooc]

All that breakdown with the.

[DJ Wells]

Ranches is crazy every time.

[Jeff]

Pinky is all time blush. She is the Michael Jordan of our sport.

[DJ Wells]

Get well some of the pinky, man.

[Jeff]

Stay gy, baby girl.

[DJ Wells]

Sky 7 and Super Chat. What's up, fellas? Y' all gonna join the 40U football league. Roll up and Drake. It's LOL. The Drake. I got you. Hey, the 4040 under for you. Taping in Move.

[Lou]

It's dangerous out there.

[DJ Wells]

You see the picture, right? When they had a 360, bro.

[Jeff]

Was wild when they had the Saints, the St. Baltimore jersey. Whatever, bro. It was a mix of the Saints in the Baltimore.

[Lou]

Baltimore.

[DJ Wells]

The clips be so funny, bro. Cause they really get hurt, bro. You have to clock in in the morning, bro.

[Jeff]

Y' all waiting on the ball.

[Lou]

It never can't do this. I'm like, bro, cannot do that.

[Mooc]

You can't have a regular job playing 40U football, bro.

[DJ Wells]

Bro, they have a regular job, bro.

[Jeff]

I want Club 520 to go to the 40.

[Lou]

We have to go out there.

[DJ Wells]

You.

[Jeff]

We got 5:20 in the morning. Going to see the 40U game, bro. The robberies, the marching bands, the Saturday mornings.

[DJ Wells]

Football is back, baby.

[Jeff]

College football at that.

[DJ Wells]

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[Mooc]

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[DJ Wells]

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[Ty]

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[DJ Wells]

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[Ty]

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[Sarah Spain]

The US Open is here and on my podcast Good Game with Sarah Spain, I'm breaking down the players from rising stars to legends chasing history. The predictions will we see a first time winner? And the pressure. Billie Jean King says pressure is a privilege, you know. Plus the stories and events off the court. And of course the Honey Deuces, the signature cocktail of the U.S. open. The U.S. open has gotten to be a very fancy, wonderfully experiential sporting event. I mean, listen, the whole aim is to be accessible and inclusive for all tennis fans. Whether you play tennis or not. Tennis is full of compelling stories of late. Have you heard about icon Venus Williams recent wildcard bids? Or the young Canadian Victoria Mboko making a name for herself? How about Naomi Osaka getting back to form? To hear this and more, listen to Good Game with Sarah Spain, an iHeart women's sports production in partnership with Deep Blue Sports and Entertainment on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.

[DJ Wells]

Presented by Capital One, founding partner of iHeart Women's Sports.

[Dan]

I'm Dan. He's Ty. Hello and we're the Solid Verbal College Football Podcast.

[Ty]

College football season is here and you know what that means.

[Dan]

Your team is going to break your heart three times, probably before Halloween.

[Jeff]

Uh huh.

[Ty]

But fear not, the Solid Verbal will be right there with you through every soul crushing loss and impossible comeback.

[Dan]

Join us all season long, all year long, as we ride the rollercoaster of this ridiculous sport.

[Ty]

Whether you're a diehard fan or a casual observer, we'll help you make sense of all the chaos and of course, celebrate the madness. Tune in for previews, recaps, Bits you won't hear anywhere else, and all the emotional support you need as a college football fan.

[Dan]

We don't just love college football, Ty. We live it.

[Ty]

Listen to the solid verbal college football podcast on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Noah de Barrasso]

I'm Noah. I'm 13, and as you might have seen from the news, I got a podcast and I explain those fake headlines like your uncle would, like your cousin would, if he actually did the research. Honestly, adults don't ask the right questions. Now, you know what Noah de Barrasso is a show about influence. Who's got it, how they use it, and what it means. For the rest of you, it's not the news. So what the news should be if someone Gen Z or Gen Alpha made it when I'm watching everything.

[DJ Wells]

Sheesh.

[Noah de Barrasso]

Majority of the youth 18 through 24 say they trust Republicans more than Democrats to fund the economy.

[DJ Wells]

You kidding me?

[Noah de Barrasso]

Politics is wild, and I'm definitely not here to tame it, but I'm here to make sense of it. Just what's happening, why it matters, and what it means for us. Bring your brain. Listen to now youw Know with Noah de Barrasa on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast.

[Jake Hofer]

I'm Jake Hofer and this is back 40, a limited series show on Wire to Hunt, part of Meat Eaters Podcast Network. Each episode I'll be asking eight whitetail hunting pros a focused, thought provoking question about hunting and land management. How do I hunt the best part of the farm with less than ideal access?

[DJ Wells]

Should you? That's what the real question is. Stand without good access is not a good stand.

[Jake Hofer]

Listen to Back 40 on iHeartRadio app, Apple podcast, or wherever you get your podcast.

[DJ Wells]

I'm something, bro.

[Jeff]

Let us narrate it, let us commentate it, let us do the whole.

[Mooc]

Y' all are fools.

[DJ Wells]

I'm something.

[Jeff]

That'd be the best thing we ever did.

[Lou]

Little kids, when the coaches be going crazy.

[Mooc]

Yeah.

[DJ Wells]

Get ready for basketball. You ready? Yeah. The Juicy League is hilarious, bro Juice.

[Jeff]

Yeah, I better get ready for some basketball. He took me out.

[DJ Wells]

Oh, man, y' all crazy.

[Jeff]

All right.

[DJ Wells]

Jamal Barksdale in the super chat says, yo, Teague, I have some roll house bread, cinnamon butter. It was elite my voice wife and made them with the spaghetti. And it was in one pot.

[Jeff]

Boy, she up your meal. It was. It was going at first, don't roll. But then he put it in one pot, lost me.

[DJ Wells]

The pregame was right but that's a horrible duo.

[Lou]

That's a bad meal. I ain't gonna lie. I was thinking that.

[DJ Wells]

Yeah, shout out to wifey.

[Jeff]

But, yeah, I was thinking y' all some rock bread, bro. Sound like 12 Years of Slave.

[Mooc]

Lock in with your lady, though, bro.

[Jeff]

You love her.

[Mooc]

We love her, too.

[Jeff]

You could have had some garlic bread.

[DJ Wells]

Yeah, but she got you some Texas roll.

[Jeff]

She broke it. She broke it. She broke it in the white sack, dropped it on.

[Mooc]

She lazy as hell, girl. Garlic bread take five minutes to make up 400. Wasting my goddamn gas going to that stupid ass restaurant. Get that bread.

[Jeff]

She dropped a psychology. There you go, man. Take the white bag, man. I know they come with a white.

[DJ Wells]

Bag because I buy them separately, too, man.

[Jeff]

Jamal, we ride with you. He from Barksdale, too? He from the sky.

[DJ Wells]

Yeah, yeah, I mess with him.

[Jeff]

Never mind. Your lady did it right.

[DJ Wells]

Yeah, she did it right. One pot. You know the vibes.

[Mooc]

All right.

[DJ Wells]

Here with a super chat says question for Freaky Mike. My cousin put mail on his. I'm not saying that. Hopefully on his glizzy. Here's what he meant to say. Is he bugging or does the glizzy guy allow that?

[Jeff]

Mike, can you put mayonnaise on the glizzy?

[Lou]

Y' all could put whatever y' all want on.

[DJ Wells]

Y' all hot, folks.

[Jeff]

Is he out of pocket for putting mayonnaise?

[Mooc]

That's not out of pocket, though.

[Jeff]

That was. That's a nasty combo.

[Mooc]

Nah, because if you put, like, tomatoes and a real Chicago dog. Chicago dog?

[Jeff]

Yeah.

[Mooc]

If you put, like, tomatoes and grilled onions and on there, bro, it's a sandwich. That ain't. He ain't out of pocket. A sesame seed bunch, bro.

[Lou]

Just get a sandwich.

[DJ Wells]

Designer glizzy.

[Jeff]

I'm not bad at the mayo.

[Mooc]

Yeah, you gotta.

[Lou]

I mean, bro, just make a sandwich.

[Mooc]

You put the onions on it. Yeah, you got grilled onions.

[DJ Wells]

The fact that he tried put mayo.

[Jeff]

On his dog is crazy.

[Mooc]

N. You just put mayo.

[Lou]

Done that before.

[DJ Wells]

Oh, yeah.

[Mooc]

You glisten the bun up. They got. If you going to do it that way, it has to be a.

[Jeff]

I.

[DJ Wells]

Ain'T never done that before.

[Mooc]

You glisten it up.

[Lou]

Just glisten up.

[Mooc]

Yeah, but I'm saying you glisten it up. You don't put too much on it. You don't want to have it. You want the dog to sit right.

[Jeff]

There on pa, Bro. This is crazy, bro. I can't tell you it's crazy.

[Mooc]

If you do a regular one, you out of pocket. You from 6030 you a demon for sure.

[Jeff]

Oh, man.

[DJ Wells]

Y' all a fucker for not giving Paige no love. 44 real McBuckers deserves a segment. Paige better than CeCe, by the way. Nah, Paige Buckets went off that last statement. I don't know, but that's been a conversation recently. Paige buckets over cc. She been holding down.

[Mooc]

I like her handle a thousand times better, though.

[Lou]

And hooping.

[Jeff]

I like the way she play a thousand times better. It looked like. It looked like a pro. Yeah, well, like, no disrespect, Kaitlyn Clark like a pro, too, but hers look like a seasoned like, man.

[Mooc]

She can train my kids.

[Jeff]

Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Like special, though.

[Lou]

Cause that looked like a boy.

[Jeff]

Yeah. That's what I ain't want to, like, disrespect him and say like a boy, but it looked like it looked like. You play with guys, man.

[DJ Wells]

And that game that she was talking about when it was crazy.

[Lou]

I want my daughter to play.

[DJ Wells]

Remember when they went back, they showed the clip of her Kelsey pumps out. She's like, you see that block right there? That's what I'm taking.

[Jeff]

Yeah.

[DJ Wells]

They had the clip. She backed her down. Turn around.

[Jeff]

You know, she played like Devin Booker.

[DJ Wells]

She's swaggy, bro. Like that.

[Jeff]

She played just like Devin Booker.

[Mooc]

Kayla's just a little bit more just this electrifying when she hot and she own, bro. Pulling up from half court. Damn near. Yeah. She does that type, but pure basketball. Page, bucket pages electrifying. No, that's what I said. That's what stand out to me most over Kayn.

[Lou]

But I get it when she hit three threes from half bros. Yeah, that's.

[Jeff]

That's. That's fine.

[DJ Wells]

Come on, bro.

[Mooc]

Bringing them back from 15. They win the game. All that crazy she be doing.

[Jeff]

Yeah.

[DJ Wells]

And respectfully, you know that game that she killed when she went crazy? They lost that game that her rookie year so far. I know the Dallas wins a lot going on.

[Lou]

Yeah, they're trash.

[DJ Wells]

Caitlin's first year in the league playoffs for a franchise that hadn't been there in years.

[Jeff]

Yeah. Don't worry.

[DJ Wells]

The real is back. Shout out to Paige Buckets. But you know what I'm saying. We can go through some stuff right now.

[Jeff]

Caitlin Clark is nice, but if y' all was playing one on one, like I put it this way, playing one on one page, going to win every time just because she can do score different ways.

[Mooc]

Yeah.

[Jeff]

As a point guard, obviously Caitlin better. She can pass. Probably better. And she's a great Shooter off the dribble.

[Mooc]

Paige already breaking records. I told y', all, that's crazy. Every day, bro. Something happens in the W, bro. This league been available for 40 years, bro. Girls coming in. It's killing. So I like. I like her, though.

[Lou]

The talent going up.

[Jeff]

I would like to see Paige against juju.

[DJ Wells]

People sleep. I can't wait till she get back.

[Lou]

Yeah, I hope she come back.

[Mooc]

Yeah, I heard the Magic Bird, that thing.

[DJ Wells]

Yeah.

[Jeff]

I heard she got the biggest Nike deal since Zion.

[Lou]

Dang, I can see that, everybody. I've been knowing juju for a long time.

[Mooc]

What he get? 85.

[DJ Wells]

I don't know what. I forgot what Zion got. But now she.

[Mooc]

She got a lot of money.

[DJ Wells]

They run her out. She's gonna be. She's gonna be pushing the LeBron deal. Heavy. 75.

[Mooc]

75. Okay.

[Jeff]

And Juju, they said Juju got the biggest. He said the biggest Nike deal since Zion.

[Mooc]

Oh, God.

[Lou]

Well, I'm saying it gotta be somewhere close.

[Mooc]

I remember he got cashed out.

[DJ Wells]

Boy, as he should have.

[Lou]

It was people.

[Jeff]

I mean, Kaylin Clark got a Nike deal.

[DJ Wells]

So wonderful.

[Jeff]

It's more than Caitlin Clark. It is.

[DJ Wells]

Yeah. Paige Buckers got it. Yeah. They going crazy. And she's going to be pushing LeBron's shoe. I believe this year she gonna have a lot of her own pes. And I imagine by the time she gets to W, she'll have her own shoe. Or if she stays in college next year, she'll probably have her own shoe.

[Mooc]

She gotta sit out this whole year.

[DJ Wells]

She don't have to get all the way.

[Lou]

Right. Why not?

[Mooc]

I'll come back if we're good and we make the tournament, I want to come back in the terms.

[Jeff]

And they just got the number one player in the country, usa.

[Lou]

Risky, bro. Coming back and it's too much on the line.

[Jeff]

They just signed the number one paper online.

[Mooc]

Coming back in March Mood, hopefully this new girl to see you talking about get them.

[Jeff]

I think she might be a senior in high school, though, the new girl. But they had got another recruit too coming in this year.

[DJ Wells]

Yeah, they gotta. They got a solid squad for sure, bro.

[Jeff]

Yeah.

[Mooc]

So I'm gonna make the tournament. Let me suit up. I just said, oh, I've been out for a year. That's the recovery, ain't it for. Oh, I'm ready.

[DJ Wells]

Ain't the success last year, you know what I'm saying? They had her and Kiki that was going crazy all year long. We wanted them to see him make a big tournament run, but unfortunately it didn't work that way, but yeah, she'll be just fine, bro. Can't wait to see her back on the court for sure. All right, ask out this question, man. Lamarcus Aldridge, does he deserve to be in the hall of Fame? Man? Look at some of his accolades. 20k points, five time all stars. I mean, it's five time all NBA. Excuse me, seven time all star. That meet the qualifications.

[Jeff]

Well, he more than qualified.

[DJ Wells]

Okay?

[Mooc]

No question.

[Jeff]

I feel like if you make all NBA one time and got a couple all Stars, you probably should be in the hall of Fame.

[Lou]

Points? Yes, bro.

[DJ Wells]

20,000 buckets.

[Lou]

It's a lot of points.

[DJ Wells]

Yeah, a lot of people were saying. No, I'm saying Lamarck's Aldo has always been good inside, but he was never really great, quote unquote. People saying he's just a really good player.

[Jeff]

But like you said, I just think.

[Mooc]

That'S because the market he was in.

[Lou]

He was busting ass, bro.

[Mooc]

Killing boys.

[Jeff]

We just didn't take him as a winner.

[Mooc]

Yeah, but as a good player.

[Lou]

They didn't want that. People didn't want that matchup, bro.

[DJ Wells]

Hell yeah. And he had years in San Antonio that you didn't watch, you know, the most because it was downtime for them. Different type of situation for the organization. But lamarcus Aldridge went crazy.

[Mooc]

His midi was insane, bro.

[DJ Wells]

Let's go to his stats. Like, look at. Look my boy, like consistent year one average 10. All right, that's cool. After that. Come on, man. 17, 18, 18, 21, 21, 21, bro. You never average 20 plus for a decade. Come on, man. What we doing? My career stats, bro.

[Mooc]

Yeah, that was just Portland. Just wasn't it. Portland wasn't the vibe. And he didn't have like TMAC numbers or no like that. He was. He was right there.

[Lou]

Yeah, he was. He was a good player every year. Like they said he wasn't great. He was a really.

[Mooc]

I mean, for them stats though, you wouldn't think he had 20, 000 points. That's a lot of points, bro.

[Lou]

That's a lot of points.

[DJ Wells]

Come on, man. Hell of a career for la.

[Mooc]

I think it was available every night.

[DJ Wells]

Especially in situations and teams. A lot of people were hurt, especially sporting years. You know what I'm saying, B Roy, Greg Oden. And then he go to Dane. He held it down.

[Jeff]

Nah, he a Hall of Famer, man. I don't know what's the qualifications to be a Hall of Famer, but it looked like he meet him.

[DJ Wells]

Most definitely. We always talk about some people in there with questionable resumes. Listen, that's a solid one for. For sure. We shall see.

[Jeff]

And it's the Basketball hall of Fame. What? He was a McDonald's All American, all that stuff.

[DJ Wells]

So everything plays to account as well.

[Mooc]

As he played with. What's up, boy? He. Wow. From Texas. The point guard, Booby.

[Jeff]

Yeah.

[DJ Wells]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Shout out to Booby Gibson. Yeah, man. We will see, man. Shout out to lamarcus Aldridge. Well deserving for sure. Hell of a career from my boy. All right, when I shot this question, man, who is the best second option of all time? Got a couple names here. We'll see how I feel about them. Scottie Pippen, Kyrie. You got AD Got D. Wade got Steph or KD or Kobe or Shaq.

[Mooc]

Scotty, bro.

[DJ Wells]

Scotty the best is okay.

[Lou]

Who the second option?

[Jeff]

He the only one that have his own team.

[Lou]

Second option. If KD was the second option, then he the best second option ever, bro.

[Mooc]

No, bro.

[Lou]

Kd by far.

[Mooc]

Pippin, bro.

[Jeff]

Hey, y' all see what Isaiah Thomas said? Not to take off this subject. I remember when Isaiah Thomas is talking to Draymond. Y' all seen that, and it was like, y' all careers wouldn't be what they were one for. Kevin Durant.

[Lou]

True.

[Jeff]

He said it's kind of true, though. He was like, think about it. They wanna. They won a championship.

[Mooc]

They won two without him.

[Jeff]

Nah, I mean, they saying y' all won a championship.

[DJ Wells]

Yeah.

[Jeff]

And then the next year, y' all had the worst meltdown in NBA history. Y' all was the only team in franchise, only person in league history to go down three, be up three one and lose.

[Mooc]

Yeah, but I came back and I won again. They won with Wiggins.

[Jeff]

No, no, no. Then KD came. Yeah, I won two.

[Mooc]

Right. Then he left. When he left.

[Jeff]

No, no, no. I'm saying they got the. More like, you gotta think you lose three one. Kevin Durant don't three one. Kevin ran. Don't come back. LeBron probably wins the next year.

[Mooc]

Look, I'm. I understand that part. I'm saying we cool with our stuff. Cause we won. I mean, without kd. We won without it.

[Lou]

No, he's not saying they wasn't cool. He just said it's a bit different.

[Jeff]

He's like, y' all wouldn't be as legendary as y' all are now. Like, Steph got, what, four championships?

[DJ Wells]

Yeah.

[Jeff]

He's saying y' all might only have one or two.

[Lou]

One to four.

[Mooc]

You're gonna have to. They won two Without.

[Lou]

It's still different than four, though.

[DJ Wells]

A lot people are saying if they don't. If they don't get those two with kd, then they don't even probably get a chance to have that team to go back to get that.

[Lou]

Get that last one, bro.

[Jeff]

Yeah.

[Lou]

Probably traded some people, some they got shook up. I can't be Brian. We gotta figure something out. They might not get that last without them, too.

[Mooc]

I think it's not gonna take my championship.

[DJ Wells]

No, we not.

[Lou]

We can't take it because y' all want them. If they didn't, if Katie didn't come save the day, it might have been a little different.

[Jeff]

He was just saying, like, y' all are hall of Famers and arguably some of the best players ever, but it's because of Kevin Durant. That's kind of basically what he said. He said he saved y' all because y' all had the worst meltdown in NBA history. I was up 3.1championship.

[DJ Wells]

Is he a Hall of Fame with one? No.

[Lou]

See what I'm saying?

[Jeff]

Yeah.

[Lou]

A little different.

[Mooc]

Yes, he is.

[Jeff]

Think so.

[Mooc]

This is made an All Star game, like four or five times, bro.

[Lou]

I'm just asking.

[DJ Wells]

Yeah. I ain't disrespecting the resume, but I don't think that Draymond would be a first ballot hall of Famer if they only got one trip.

[Jeff]

Yeah.

[DJ Wells]

Now it's unanimous. You can't deny him whatever you want to do for him, but. Yeah, I don't know if it would be like that with just one.

[Mooc]

Y' all cool. Y' all cool this morning?

[Jeff]

What you mean?

[Mooc]

Y' all wilding.

[Jeff]

How's that? Wilding?

[Lou]

One championship, you think?

[Mooc]

Draymond, listen. Y' all stop taking championships from them. They have two. Without kd, you're not asking me. Without kd, you can't help amplify us. Of course that's true. Solidify my.

[Lou]

Should I been on that team if they didn't get Katie, bro, Something with it.

[Mooc]

Cameron Durant don't solidify me making the hall of Fame or me me having a cold ass career.

[Jeff]

It help a lot.

[Mooc]

But I'm saying I won too. Without him, bro.

[Jeff]

I'm not sure.

[Mooc]

Didn't win. Without us, I'm nothing.

[Lou]

I helped him, too.

[Mooc]

Yeah, we helped him more than he helped us.

[Lou]

Hall of Fame. No matter what, though, KD was Hall of Fame the day he got dressed.

[Mooc]

Yeah, I mean, y' all know that's my favorite guy.

[Jeff]

I'm just saying I had never heard that until, like two days ago.

[Mooc]

Who is this?

[Lou]

Mike, Bro, them four championships is all right.

[Mooc]

They'll give them two. Not do all the.

[DJ Wells]

All defensive teams. Yeah, yeah.

[Mooc]

Not all defensive teams.

[DJ Wells]

My boy on the defensive team from 2015 to 2024.

[Mooc]

Come on, y'.

[DJ Wells]

All skip the year came back.

[Jeff]

I'm not saying Draymond not a good player.

[DJ Wells]

But that. Interesting point, though, especially here. Isaiah Thomas said that before.

[Jeff]

Isaiah Thomas to say. Because I never thought about that. Like, damn, y' all did have the worst debacle in NBA history. Like, y' all were up 3:1 and lost. Yeah, I didn't even think about it like that. I was just thinking, like, Brian did something crazy. But I don't think that team was a. I felt like the warriors should have won. I felt like they was a better team or whatever. Obviously, they was up 3:1, so I'm like, I don't think their team would have broke up, but that would be a tough recovery, though.

[Lou]

Yeah. Then if Braun winning next year.

[Jeff]

Yeah.

[Lou]

Win again the next year. Golden State. Like, we gotta figure something out, bro. That's when she start getting shook up, bro.

[Jeff]

You know, And I think, like, Brown and them had confidence. Like, we know that we can figure them out now. We can figure them out. But when you add kd.

[Lou]

Oh, yeah, they said obviously they knew something was wrong. They went and got killed.

[Jeff]

Yeah.

[DJ Wells]

It was worried 1000%.

[Lou]

They went, got the second best player in the world.

[DJ Wells]

And the easiest way, you know what I'm saying, to get over something historic like that. Change history the other way.

[Jeff]

Yeah.

[DJ Wells]

Craziest offseason pick up Denmark ever.

[Jeff]

Yeah. I just thought that was crazy when he said it. Cause I never even thought about it. Like, it never even hit me. Like, damn. Maybe I wouldn't think Steph was better than Magic Johnson.

[Lou]

Them chips help, bro. I'm telling you.

[Jeff]

Or maybe I wouldn't think he was better than Isaiah Thomas.

[Lou]

See, somebody with four greens, you know, it helps, bro.

[DJ Wells]

Yeah.

[Lou]

One to five.

[Jeff]

Maybe you wouldn't hold.

[Mooc]

Maybe I don't know what we doing today, y'.

[Jeff]

All. Maybe I wouldn't hold. Clay like, I like up that high against.

[DJ Wells]

Yo.

[Jeff]

Yo, who I say Clay was better than.

[Lou]

He did it, too.

[Mooc]

It was raw, bro. He not no Steph Curry.

[Lou]

He's not.

[Mooc]

But if don't give a. About no championships or none of that, you gonna.

[Lou]

You would have to, bro.

[Mooc]

How if I won two and this. He didn't never win.

[Jeff]

Who? Isaiah Thomas? Yeah. He won two championships.

[Mooc]

I thought you was talking about it, rit.

[Jeff]

The real I'm talking about Isaiah Thomas, the legend.

[Mooc]

Okay. I thought you was talking about what the is we doing. Yeah, I thought but I didn't know who said it.

[Jeff]

I thought.

[DJ Wells]

Since.

[Mooc]

Oh, okay. I got you legend him. I'm still. I'm still taking steps.

[Jeff]

I mean he was a bad one for me. Yeah, he was.

[Mooc]

Don't. Don't repeat it N. Bro.

[Jeff]

He won with Mike in the league.

[Mooc]

I beat Braun.

[Jeff]

True.

[DJ Wells]

Yeah, you ain't man.

[Mooc]

I be br.

[Lou]

Mike want letting boys eat. A lot of people didn't want with Brian in the league a little bit.

[Jeff]

Yeah, everybody.

[Lou]

And he got some rings with Brian in the league, bro. Dirt beating. They got some. Some rings, bro. Jordan 1:11.

[Jeff]

I won two with Mike and Magic Johnson before Magic.

[Mooc]

I'm not. I'm not doing. I'm not doing that.

[DJ Wells]

Yeah, me and Joe Dumars, bro.

[Jeff]

I'm cold.

[Mooc]

I don't know, bro. I mean I stand on the island by myself is better. But my mama Steph better than this.

[DJ Wells]

Oh, he is.

[Lou]

But it ain't like that.

[Mooc]

Isaiah Thomas was a kid about none of that. That's.

[Jeff]

He don't think Isaiah Thomas was up there.

[Mooc]

He's up there. He's a great. He not no Steph Curry.

[Lou]

Nah, but he's up there.

[DJ Wells]

I think I'll take Isaiah Thomas 3.

[Lou]

He is up there.

[DJ Wells]

Seth Magic it.

[Mooc]

You can even take Magic one if you want to. I'm cool with that. But Steph Curry, you. You take his KD championships away and still give me my two that I won. Do not with me. And I changed the league.

[DJ Wells]

Shout out to Wardell one of the goats for sure. I ain't wild.

[Jeff]

I think Steph the best pointer ever. I just said, will we look at him differently if he had his two.

[Mooc]

Bring you back, bro.

[Lou]

You.

[Mooc]

Everything you said about Steph Curry, you was right. You don't got to rethink it. Everything you said that you felt about Steph and Clay, you was right.

[Jeff]

But you would look at them differently if they had them two more championships on my mama.

[Lou]

I would if they had one.

[Mooc]

Chip, stop doing that.

[Lou]

You would look at them different, bro.

[DJ Wells]

You would. Oh, we gotta move on. Obviously you would, bro.

[Mooc]

All right, bro.

[Jeff]

It is what it is. Imagine if I had. Imagine if I had two more championships. You'll look at me different.

[Mooc]

Cause you know I don't look at hoop like that.

[Lou]

But that sounds.

[Jeff]

That sound crazy though.

[Lou]

I'm a three time champion.

[Jeff]

I could have set the bench for all three of them.

[Mooc]

Nobody gave a bro.

[Jeff]

People been like, he Won three times.

[Mooc]

Ain't nobody said that. Talk about your performance versus the people that we like.

[DJ Wells]

If I walk in like this, bro, you see the three, bro. Respect me, bro. I don't care about you will respect me, bro. I have three. They like, he was a all star.

[Jeff]

And he got three chips.

[Lou]

He better call somebody, bro.

[Jeff]

Got one chip.

[Mooc]

Give me. Give me my overcast.

[Lou]

For sure he got three chips.

[Jeff]

They definitely had a good career. He played.

[Mooc]

I like whatever the nickname is. Calart. I'm taking. I'm taking.

[Lou]

Not just saying he got three.

[Jeff]

They. Why you bring up Robert hor?

[DJ Wells]

Because you know, bro.

[Jeff]

I ain't going to lie. Nobody cares about his championship, though.

[Lou]

Care, bro.

[DJ Wells]

Bro.

[Mooc]

No, they don't, bro. And Robert or Robert Ori is a. Was a legit Hooper.

[Lou]

They bring up when they say he really players or fitting players understand how.

[Mooc]

Athletic he was coming into the NBA. Yeah, freak athlete.

[Lou]

You know how many big shots he made?

[Mooc]

That's what he known for.

[DJ Wells]

He said got active.

[Mooc]

He adjusted. He adjusted to the league.

[Jeff]

Very big shots n. He. He got his. His championships are valid. It's just that his swag was trash won.

[DJ Wells]

Got that, bro.

[Jeff]

He.

[Mooc]

That's different.

[DJ Wells]

I had seven championships, bro. Talk to me differently, bro.

[Mooc]

That's why on this podcast he come.

[Lou]

Here and say us, bro.

[Mooc]

He can say you back.

[Jeff]

We going be like, y. Swaggy.

[Lou]

Say y' all y.

[Jeff]

What up?

[DJ Wells]

I got rings. Not one multiple. That's why I'm in here. I got seven People love Robert Hoy.

[Mooc]

I'm a bas Rober big shot is saying he got so many championships, nobody ever brings that up in real conversation.

[Lou]

He wasn't the best player, bro. We understand.

[Jeff]

N just cuz he ain't swaggy Robert or was. Let me think somebody asked this cuz he lame, bro. Look, I ain't saying he lame. I don't know. He might have all the girls mad at it. He might have had somebody talk.

[Mooc]

Let's come on. We got to stop.

[Jeff]

He was. Let's just say he was Iman Shumper.

[Mooc]

Yeah.

[Jeff]

And sh had seven rings. Everybody be like sh, bro. And essentially same thing. No, we wouldn't, bro. Just because jump is just more personal.

[Lou]

Nobody cares that something got seven rings. Like they don't care about Robert Hore. It will be the same thing.

[DJ Wells]

People.

[Lou]

They're the same player.

[Jeff]

People. People with Shump and he got one ring and people.

[Mooc]

He said, I get it, bro.

[Lou]

He's cool.

[Jeff]

It's not that he cool. It's just that the way it's presented is gonna look like. Like when we seen Robert, we like nah, set the screen, man. Shoot the three. And he was way more effective than Sean probably.

[Mooc]

Yes, bro.

[Jeff]

He probably was way more.

[DJ Wells]

He shot four shots.

[Jeff]

Yeah. Like even when they show he do got the big shot where he hit against at the top of the Sacramento. That's a big shot.

[Lou]

His will live on forever, bro.

[Jeff]

They will. But it still was like look at Kobe jump up after he hits the shot.

[DJ Wells]

Camera.

[Jeff]

Go straight to Kobe.

[DJ Wells]

Kobe hits a three camera with the bronze.

[Mooc]

This is what we're.

[Jeff]

You have.

[Mooc]

You have to know. You have to know basketball to know what Robert or meant to the game.

[DJ Wells]

Facts.

[Jeff]

Exactly.

[Mooc]

That's it. That's fine if you don't know. But I'm saying though the masses ain't. Come on, boy. You never wanted the ORI jersey and he had a cool number.

[DJ Wells]

You a think I want a silver jersey.

[Mooc]

I will.

[DJ Wells]

With sh.

[Lou]

Bro, I don't want his jersey, bro.

[Jeff]

I'm saying you see shump like outside like if he was on the. No, I'm saying he on the side that he was on that show.

[DJ Wells]

Yeah.

[Jeff]

So be like.

[DJ Wells]

Yeah.

[Jeff]

You know, he's an actor. He's seven time champion. Yeah. Different.

[Lou]

You would hear it.

[Jeff]

But Robert Horus, he come in, walking in.

[Lou]

He was on the Parkers. Robert was on the Parkers, bro.

[DJ Wells]

Who was he there for?

[Mooc]

He was.

[DJ Wells]

That's my point.

[Jeff]

He over there for Monique.

[Lou]

I gotta respect him.

[DJ Wells]

I love Robert War, bro.

[Mooc]

I'm just saying. I see what Jeff, bro.

[Jeff]

I know. I'm just saying in his era, like he just.

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[DJ Wells]

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[Dan]

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[Ty]

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[Dan]

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[Jeff]

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[DJ Wells]

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[DJ Wells]

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[DJ Wells]

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[Mooc]

I don't know or it wasn't personable like that. Mo, stop acting like you don't understand.

[DJ Wells]

He could been a coolest seven rings.

[Lou]

And seven rings, bro.

[Jeff]

I mean Bill Russell got 11 and.

[DJ Wells]

People don't acknowledge that.

[Lou]

One of the best of all time.

[Jeff]

He was the star of the league. But it's somebody else on that team with him that probably got 10.

[DJ Wells]

But we don't know him, bro.

[Jeff]

He ain't had no swag was winners bro.

[DJ Wells]

Yes, bro.

[Lou]

That's the difference. He was the reason they won some of them game.

[Jeff]

Like we know Tyrone Lou more than.

[Lou]

We know Robert Hor he coaching. And bro, we know Ty. Let's be honest. Iverson stepped over ring bro.

[Jeff]

That's why we know T Luke, bro. He yeah so they did.

[DJ Wells]

Yeah.

[Jeff]

I you know who Robert Hor was? Did you know who Tyrone you knew.

[Lou]

More him or Tyrone L. Why you know?

[Jeff]

Come on man.

[Lou]

He got stiffed up. He got stepped up.

[DJ Wells]

I need.

[Jeff]

I need something to remember you by.

[DJ Wells]

I got seven rings bro. Somebody who got stepped up talking to me bro.

[Lou]

Stepped over by AI bro.

[DJ Wells]

Historic moment.

[Lou]

He wasn't swaggy bro. He was let on the ground.

[Mooc]

Hey people swaggy braids headband.

[Jeff]

Ay, you know what's gonna be funny.

[DJ Wells]

Robert respond to this. Oh go crazy.

[Mooc]

I'm gonna clip it up wrong on you a legend.

[DJ Wells]

We not hating.

[Jeff]

We just say to the the people.

[Mooc]

That I ain't coping the plea.

[Jeff]

No no I'm just saying like people don't know him like they know these other people.

[Mooc]

That's all we saying bro.

[DJ Wells]

In the comments please go find Robert Wallace had seven rings. Oh my God man. He be the greatest.

[Lou]

She's different though. But she was getting real buckets.

[Mooc]

Yeah but I'm saying she is probably known masses for being crazy.

[Jeff]

Yeah.

[DJ Wells]

Shout out to the text we know.

[Mooc]

About where she was, how cold he was but we we compared to Mark's cousin or she Wallace type so far as being crazy as a. But if she had seven rings you couldn't say to she bro. Yeah, that's different than Robert Warrior seven rings.

[Lou]

I'm not saying it's not but it's.

[Mooc]

A huge difference though.

[Lou]

That's what she Wallace though.

[Jeff]

I'm letting a role play. Let's name a role player that was like who is Robert Corey Birthday. Happy birthday.

[DJ Wells]

Talk about how you ain't got no swag.

[Jeff]

Happy birthday boy. The key kicking boy.

[DJ Wells]

Hey.

[Jeff]

Boy birthday today he got start the video.

[DJ Wells]

I woke up for my birthday.

[Mooc]

I got it.

[Jeff]

He talking about he got one Ch, he ain't even play. I didn't play. So before you get mad, start talking about me. We not talking about you didn't win chips. We understand. We just talking about you adjusted to the league.

[Mooc]

He was a high flyer coming in. Then you adjust to becoming a pure shooter on the team. You a legend, bro.

[Jeff]

Shot Bob, he got a nickname.

[Mooc]

That's hard in the league. You had a great career.

[DJ Wells]

Please put the clip of the pros versus Joe's bro, Robert Ward. That's all I want. Y' all please put it up, bro. Not be upset. He was like, I have these average.

[Jeff]

Yes, that's hard.

[DJ Wells]

That's hard.

[Jeff]

But I'm just saying, like, it's people with one ring or whoever. And we'll be like, do y' all talk about them before y' all talk about Robert or show?

[Lou]

Probably just depend on what they did on the court, bro. Like Rasheed Wallace. We're going to talk about him.

[DJ Wells]

He's the first person to get the second halftime, bro.

[Lou]

Him and Robert Horace is the same thing.

[Jeff]

Like, I put Robert word in the same breath as I put Tayshawn Prince. Like, we love. We know Tayshawn prince is a good player. We know Robert hori is a good player. But you just don't talk about it.

[Lou]

He's real quiet, though.

[Jeff]

That's how Robert ori is. Robert, he talked more than Tayshawn. But you just wouldn't even like when people start talking about good small fors who got a ring that played a role. You just don't even.

[Mooc]

Yeah, j R Smith, seven rings.

[Jeff]

Oh, my goodness.

[Lou]

He gonna be.

[DJ Wells]

Oh, it's already up.

[Mooc]

Give J R Smith seven rings.

[Lou]

That's a little better than Sean Cuz Jr gonna 360 windmill on crazy.

[Jeff]

He go. It ain't even gonna. Because he was killing cuz when he won the chip.

[Lou]

He gonna keep.

[Jeff]

I'm not even saying he was gonna do it. He was giving the same amount of stuff that Robert hor was giving in them championships. But if everything.

[Lou]

I seen when he played y' all he doing.

[Jeff]

I'm not saying he killed us, but Robert or literally hit every big shot, bro.

[DJ Wells]

He does have a record for the playoffs.

[Jeff]

Like Robert. Robert legit had.

[DJ Wells]

He had seven made threes and no Mrs.

[Jeff]

Rober legit had. He literally killed. He. He was cold. He cold.

[Lou]

He was a good player, man. Shout out to you. Did your man.

[Jeff]

Yeah, but I'm just saying, J.R. smith had seven rings, bro. It will be.

[DJ Wells]

I'm calling him the best of all.

[Mooc]

Time, Junior Smith have several rooms with his same stats that he finished his, you know, career with speaking on him different.

[DJ Wells]

I'm saying crazy. If Jared Smith got seven rings, I'm saying he's the best guard of all time.

[Jake Hofer]

And I don't care.

[Jeff]

Even if Young has seven rings.

[DJ Wells]

Oh, yeah. I'd be inconsolable.

[Jeff]

Nothing, bro. What?

[DJ Wells]

It'd be the best ball court of all time, and I don't care.

[Jeff]

It would be had seven rings. Do you know how crazy Nick Young would be?

[Lou]

Yeah. He will be off of the ring he got.

[Jeff]

So that's what I'm saying.

[DJ Wells]

So if he has seven of them.

[Jeff]

It'Ll be like, come on.

[DJ Wells]

All right, we gotta move on. But I'm sure the chat's gonna have fun with that, man. Shout out to Robert. Word, man. Happy birthday. We ain't no king.

[Jeff]

Me and my fault.

[DJ Wells]

Yeah. Super Twitch man with the gift. Shout out to you and the sub. Hey, man, tap in with the twitch. Excuse me. Club 520. Malcolm, have you been getting dubs? What's up, man? What you been on? I see you streaming, but you begin dubs in the games, man. What's up? You locked in?

[Jeff]

In.

[Lou]

I'm locked in.

[DJ Wells]

Are we locked in? You. You back in? The game sucks. It's okay.

[Lou]

I will be back.

[DJ Wells]

I can't wait. I will be better.

[Jeff]

No, no, I can't wait till you get on the game. I'mma call you as soon as it drop. Say, let's play. I know. Let's play. Let's go to the one score. I'm like, play for a million VCs.

[Lou]

Yeah, I'm not green.

[Jeff]

I'mma keep spamming your. I'mma keep spitting. You invite. I'm g. Just keep spamming you, cuz.

[DJ Wells]

I want, I want.

[Jeff]

I want to revenge something else, bro.

[DJ Wells]

I got. I'm better than him. He might well call me.

[Jeff]

I am better than him. Hey, he not better than me.

[Lou]

He nice.

[Jeff]

Only thing, he. He just know how to dribble better than me. I don't got no dribble moves. I do my own. Hesy like, I be dribbling.

[DJ Wells]

I'll be at home, I'll be like.

[Jeff]

I'll be heavy with myself, and he be going for it.

[DJ Wells]

Nasty work, man. Tap in with the twist. You know the vibes. All right, Milton. The super chat said what's good. Club520T, did you see? WWE announced the first ever Wrestle Palooza on September 20th, live at Gainesbridge, y' all pulling up, baby.

[Jeff]

Wrestling Palooza. You know, I'M there, bro. I'm about to be lit.

[DJ Wells]

Hey, now, I was gonna ask you about this, you know what I'm saying? I know that they had signed an agreement, but people didn't expect this to happen so soon.

[Jeff]

Yeah.

[DJ Wells]

So something to come out with a new pay per view event in the city. That's all. It's up now, baby.

[Jeff]

This might be the best thing that ever happened, bro.

[DJ Wells]

Yeah, man. Get what's on the peacock, man. I know they don't like that.

[Jeff]

I really enjoy when we have these wrestling interviews and we get to do things over wwe.

[DJ Wells]

Yeah.

[Jeff]

Some of the best times of my life. I like it takes me back to being a kid, man. I would gave my left leg to go to some of them back in the day, man. You know how hype I used to mooc now because he grew with me. I used to love, love, love wrestling, bro. I would I damn near kill him.

[Lou]

They almost took me out him and for real, wow. They knocked me out one time, bro.

[Jeff]

I went to the Buried Alive match with Kane and I mean Undertaker and Mankind. That changed my life, bro.

[DJ Wells]

Hey, man, shout out to wwe. Always a good time for sure. Dial Smith in the super Chat says the words, don't beat the Cavs again. Without kd. Steph and Clay and Dre might have one because people forget Brian took go set the six without Kyrie and Kevin Love. Yeah. If they don't get Katie night next year, boy, it might be. You know what I'm saying? Kyrie may not even leave Cleveland might get different. A lot of what is for sure.

[Jeff]

But it didn't happen. So it just. I just thought it was interesting. Isaiah Thomas said that. And he said it to him. He was like. That's when I knew.

[DJ Wells]

I was like.

[Jeff]

He Zeke a little crazy. Yeah. Cause he's like.

[Lou]

I was like out of Chicago. He don't care.

[DJ Wells]

He's the only person disrespect Mike, bro. Get away with it.

[Jeff]

He said, let me tell you something. I think y' all careers would be different. I don't think they'll look at y' all like that if you. Y' all didn't get Kevin Durant.

[DJ Wells]

Yeah.

[Jeff]

Draymond Green was like, huh?

[DJ Wells]

He's like, what? And it's a little bit hating there, too. He don't like the people put stuff over him.

[Jeff]

Yeah. I was like, damn.

[DJ Wells]

All right. Mikey Montana. Super Chat says, excuse me if Horry don't make some of those shots. Some of those greats don't have as many chips as they do that is a fact.

[Jeff]

That's a fact. Robert Hori played a key role. Happy birthday to him too.

[DJ Wells]

Big shot, by the way.

[Jeff]

I can't wait till he wake up and torch me. This is gonna be right, bro.

[Lou]

That's true, bro.

[Mooc]

I had to do all this work to get here. So you can make the last shot it he did.

[Jeff]

If he don't hit that shot, Sacramento goes to the championship.

[Mooc]

Sacramento should have won that championship anyway. They cheated the out of there.

[Jeff]

Yeah, they did cheat them ref. Tim.

[Mooc]

Hey to you what he did. But yeah. I just don't like when y' all be taking away from other players, bro.

[Lou]

That's not taking nothing from nobody.

[Jeff]

This is just saying he did.

[Lou]

Yeah, that's all.

[DJ Wells]

All right. Marcus Marshall in the super chat says, I didn't care if I got the chance to live with that Face album, but y' all hear that Pat BER and American Psycho straight fire. No, I have to tap in y'.

[Jeff]

All baby face, right?

[DJ Wells]

Yeah.

[Mooc]

Oh, I thought I'm looking at a difference. Talking about pet bed bars.

[DJ Wells]

Now he got a bar. No, I'm nothing on a pet bed mixtape. Sleep. Yeah. We'll check it out, though. Shout out the face.

[Jeff]

Yeah, that's my. That album hard. Actually. They face her album tight.

[DJ Wells]

Real solid. Golden Cowboy. For sure. Ryan Flynn. Super Chat says congrats on getting the hall of fame at Wake Forest Tea Surprise. Oh, Rick. Super Chat dj, was that you? They got the facial tattoos in your hand, but what's the role of an assistant coach when the head coach is ejected? It does he stick with the game plan or does he implement his own style?

[Jeff]

I usually stick to the game plan.

[Lou]

Game plan that's already been created. Yeah, just roll with that.

[DJ Wells]

You can't really get that situation to get roll.

[Jeff]

Just get d get ejected. All right, now it's time to run my Y. Let's go. ISO guys.

[Mooc]

I don't like that.

[Lou]

He had some going on.

[Jeff]

Glad we got his ass out of here anyway. Run, run, Dragon.

[DJ Wells]

That.

[Lou]

Yeah, it was almost over anyway.

[Jeff]

What he said when you got ejected? Who, me? Yeah, I got ejected. Oh, that game was over. It was two minutes ago, baby. I knew what I was doing.

[Mooc]

Ever again.

[Jeff]

I just didn't know that I had to set out the next game.

[DJ Wells]

Game.

[Lou]

My boy Lou Hel down, though.

[DJ Wells]

Shout out to l, baby.

[Jeff]

I was like, dam. I got another game. They like, yeah. Oh, my bad. Thought I was just there for this one. They like, stop the NBA. Like, all right, relax.

[DJ Wells]

Oh, man. So I'm Brandon on The super chat says question for everyone. What makes the league more competitive? Me. A cup winner gets lottery pick or All Star Game winner gets lottery pick, Best POD and morning show. That's a good question. What makes the league more competitive? All Star Game winner gets a lottery pick?

[Mooc]

I don't know.

[DJ Wells]

How does that work? Pop team now, any cup winner. I guess that kind of makes sense. But.

[Jeff]

Yeah, he thought he was cooking with that, too, son.

[DJ Wells]

Brendo, now maybe you could go.

[Mooc]

I just learned how to start speaking English. Give him a pass, bro. That's how he supposed to be over here. Be careful with them trucks outside and everything today. So stay old.

[Lou]

It was.

[Jeff]

That ain't funny, bro.

[Mooc]

It ain't. I'm serious.

[Jeff]

No, bro. Half my family like that.

[Mooc]

Hey, bro, stay old. What they call. What they call that, Lou, when the kids gotta stay home and learn? He learned. He learned today.

[DJ Wells]

Tuesday and Thursdays. And people coming. Taj. LeBron the super chat says.

[Jeff]

Nah. I hope they get on his ass.

[DJ Wells]

Nah. Y' all might be tripping a bit. Steph had two MVPs. They were seven, three, nine. Draymond was locked down, defender. They would have still be a legendary team. I mean, they still would have been good, but after a meltdown like that, bro, they didn't get a lot of smoke because of how they retooled back. I think they was obviously still going to be a good team. But, yeah, LeBron might have got them up out of here, especially if he went that way.

[Jeff]

Them losing three, one was. Nobody ever talked about it because literally two months later, Kevin Durant signed with the Warriors. So that was the biggest news in NBA history. Damn near.

[DJ Wells]

It went from a meltdown to they're running basketball.

[Jeff]

Yeah.

[DJ Wells]

Yeah. That quick. All right. Giovanni Maxwell in the super chat says 2018 Rockets team knocks out the warriors without KD, without Katie Draymond. Just role players. Yeah, that Rocket scene was really good.

[Jeff]

Yeah, they probably would have beat them. They had Katie.

[DJ Wells]

Yeah, I'm not gonna say without Katie Draymond just role players. He's pretty good, bro.

[Lou]

Nah, he was good.

[Jeff]

He was good without kd. But. But if they didn't have KD in that Houston series, Houston wins for sure.

[DJ Wells]

All right, man, let's go to NFL, man. In the preseason game, they took seven with kd, right?

[Jeff]

Oh, yeah. Chris Paul tore his hamstring. Yeah.

[DJ Wells]

Yeah. I agree with IK that made it tough. That Rocket scene was really, really, really good. And that James Harden was unstoppable at that time. Was that MVP Harden, too? 2018 or was it 17?

[Jeff]

I don't know what year it was, but he was him and CP.

[DJ Wells]

It was 18. Yeah, like I said, that was MVPJ's hard too. Yeah, it was different. All right, man, Shador, second preseason game, man, he struggled with three for six, 14 yards, took five sacks. But my problem with this, I don't know how y' all feel about it, is that that situation, man, and I've seen a lot of NFL analysts talk about it. TJ husband Zan talked about it. What they gave Dylan Gabriel and what they gave him was two different lineups. They said that, you know, Shador, you out here with people who ain't gonna make the team as of today. And Dylan Gabriel has some people who are gonna be on that situation. And also they didn't let him get that two minute drill at the end of the game. I like what he said. Basically said they don't want a quarterback controversy. They don't want that. They Joe Flacco, they starter. They're gonna go from there on now. Those two are gonna make the roster. But they did not want to push it over the situation to where he got to come back. Victory in a preseason, and now they got to go into week one saying, should he start or not?

[Lou]

Yeah, I mean, they, they setting them up to fail. Yeah, that's pretty much what it is. They said that's unheard of not to get that two minutes at the end for somebody that's on the team. They said that was unheard of. They gave it to somebody that's clearly not gonna be on the team.

[DJ Wells]

Yeah, that's tough.

[Jeff]

I mean, Eric Dickerson came out and said what he said. It pretty much let you know.

[DJ Wells]

Yeah, please play that clip.

[Jeff]

Yeah.

[DJ Wells]

I heard from someone.

[Mooc]

That the NFL would total level. Don't draft him. Do not drift. Lego becoming an example of. And this came from a very good source, a very good source.

[DJ Wells]

And he said that.

[Mooc]

I won't say who. Somebody called the Cleveland Brown and said, don't do that.

[DJ Wells]

Really?

[Mooc]

Yep. Draft. Don't, don't, don't do. That's very interesting.

[DJ Wells]

I know it's all hearsay, but you get reports like this and reports, you know, sometimes take with a grain of salt. But I'm not too surprised. We've heard this from enough people. It could possibly be true how y' all feel about it, but I believe.

[Jeff]

It because ain't no way he dropped that far in the draft without it being some type of conspiracy.

[Mooc]

Yeah, we said that out the gate, though, about him, bro. They was hating on him from the get go.

[DJ Wells]

Yeah.

[Lou]

You don't drop from number one pick to this far, bro. Maybe a couple, but not that far, bro. And now you can't even really get no reps for real in preseason, like quality reps, bro.

[Jeff]

Yeah. He almost in a lose lose situation. And it's kind of scary because I don't think he ever gonna really get an opportunity.

[Lou]

This is what it looked like. Like, that's what it look like.

[Jeff]

Dang. Like he might not ever get opportunity. It might have to be somebody who just don't give a damn. Got to be somebody like Jerry Jones who might just not give a damn. Yeah. Like I love Dion, so you know what I mean? I love Deion so much that I ain't going to let him do that kid like he rebellion. Jerry is obviously he'll do whatever you want to do. So he might be the only guy that could give him a real chance.

[Mooc]

I think they should have drafted him Cowboys. Yeah, bro. I should have took him, bro.

[DJ Wells]

Yeah, we got a lot of faith in that. I mean, yeah, from a. From a that type of standpoint, I can see it, you know, being the attention standpoint, but yeah, I don't know. That just sucks, man. If that is true that he did. You know what I'm saying? That his. His dream got deferred a little bit differently because of people just hating on him or that being like structurally hate against him. That's wild, man.

[Lou]

Yeah. Yeah.

[DJ Wells]

I mean, we've seen things like this before, but to hear it being spoke on, that sucks, man. We wish the best for Shador for sure. Give us some Shiloh, man. Welcome to the clip, man. Spoiler for yeah. The family, man. It's wicked, bro.

[Jeff]

Was sad as hell. Good luck to Shiloh. In his career, he's cooked.

[DJ Wells]

Yeah, man. They said this is why my boy got released, man. My boy was squabbling.

[Mooc]

He was gonna get rid of my dog, man. You see how big he is next to Shiloh? Looks so small.

[Lou]

Look at it. Throw him.

[DJ Wells]

You can't smack you, bro.

[Lou]

You too, little bro. I could have whooped you if I wanted to.

[Jeff]

Oh, no, bro.

[Mooc]

That's a big ass white boy.

[Lou]

That's what he said.

[DJ Wells]

He said, yeah, bro, you about to smack you. Don't tell me too small. I smacked you. Yeah, man.

[Jeff]

You think Shiloh get another opportunity?

[DJ Wells]

I think so. I think so. I hope so.

[Mooc]

Yeah, bro. He'd be okay, bro. Yeah, he'd be cool. They probably already planned on cutting him, bro. That didn't do it. All right. There it is.

[DJ Wells]

Yeah.

[Lou]

It wasn't up today.

[Mooc]

It wasn't. It was. Not that.

[DJ Wells]

No. We've seen crazy things in football, dude. I don't know if y' all seen this. Andre Johnson was at a signing recently, and they had the. They had action figures of him whooping Corey Finnegan. And he was signing, though. Action figures have been on my. I thought that was fire.

[Jeff]

That's hard.

[DJ Wells]

That's some crazy memorabilia, bro. You got me wolfing somebody's action figure. That's he. Yeah, that's for sure. All right, man. Let's get to the mlb. The Pirates, man. You know what happened? They played the Rockies. So they got a dub. Four zero shut out. Got the rays in. The Cardinal 72. Yeah.

[Jeff]

I'm putting $1,000 on the Rockies next game. I got him. Yeah. I got him winning.

[DJ Wells]

Oh, God bless you.

[Jeff]

I'm about to come up.

[DJ Wells]

Grand slam shout out to Junior. Win yard. Somebody got a souvenir. Literally knocked the ball out of the park.

[Jeff]

He running fast. Slow up.

[DJ Wells]

Nah, that's crazy. Grand slams always tough, bro. Let's go to it. Orioles and Astros. Gunnar Henderson with a home run, went yard on them. Wow.

[Jeff]

I just think them jerseys are so raw.

[DJ Wells]

Which Doris. Oh, yeah, bro. They have. They all have.

[Jeff]

I like the old bird. I don't like this bird they got.

[Lou]

They be making them home runs look light, bro.

[DJ Wells]

Timing, bro. Elite timing. So The Braves got one over the Mets, four to three. The Phillies in the Nationals, three to two. The Royal took care of the Tigers, 10 to eight. The Mars and the Blue Jays five to three, shut out White. So I got dubbed over the Twins, 8 0. The Giants and the Brewers, 4 to 3. Brewers been going crazy. Took a rare loss there. The Rangers and the Guardians another shut out, 5 to 0. Cubs and the Angels, 4 to 3. The Reds got the best of my D back, 6 to 1. Yeah, man. Load up the clip, man. Spencer Steer went crazy, man. Wow. And that's when the game was lost, officially. Rerun Dinger. Get him up out of there. You see that? Behind my boy in the crowd. No glove.

[Mooc]

I told y', all, man. Y' all made it seem like I was crazy.

[DJ Wells]

One more time, please. He could do it. Y'. All. Y' all hate him.

[Mooc]

I'm just saying, they take gloves. Baseball games is lame, bro.

[DJ Wells]

Hey, Snag City.

[Mooc]

Bare hand, bro.

[DJ Wells]

Hand say you can do it. Put some respect to my boy. All right, man. Listen, the pod been going crazy.

[Jeff]

Would have dropped that.

[DJ Wells]

Oh, that. Be here. You a got no faith in him.

[Jeff]

He would have dropped that respect, bro.

[Mooc]

These hands made of steel.

[DJ Wells]

The project's been hyp, but they took a L to the Dodgers 8 to 2. Number 45, Ohtani.

[Jeff]

Bro, every time we do a show, you hit it home. Come on, bro.

[DJ Wells]

You gonna get souvenir when I pull up, bro.

[Jeff]

He is big as.

[DJ Wells]

Hey.

[Jeff]

Go ahead and do this when you go around third. Look at him. He about do the little.

[DJ Wells]

Yeah, bro.

[Jeff]

Do.

[DJ Wells]

Yeah, man. Easy work for him. All right, man. The Mariners and the athletics 11 to 4. Logan Gilbert went crazy. Went super crazy. Please load up the clip. My boy had 13ks yesterday. Get him gone. Bye, cat.

[Jeff]

No, his arm hurt.

[DJ Wells]

Yeah, man.

[Mooc]

They do for recovery for that take days off.

[DJ Wells]

We got some more from this sky R been going crazy. Number 48 and 49. Bow.

[Jeff]

These baseball players look so little compared to Mark McGuire and them.

[DJ Wells]

That's crazy. That's crazy. That's crazy.

[Jeff]

All right, can you type in Mark McGuire is Pete.

[DJ Wells]

You went to the Silver era.

[Jeff]

Yeah, like, look at them compare.

[DJ Wells]

We like the time for the workout, bro.

[Jeff]

We like, man, like, they look like old baseball player, a little chubby, out of shape. Look at Mark McGuire when he was playing, bruh. Come on, man.

[Mooc]

This thing looks crazy, bro.

[DJ Wells]

The before and after is crazy, too. You see him with the A's and you see him with the car bed, bro, did not look like that.

[Mooc]

Oh, yeah, with the A's. He was humongous.

[Jeff]

Nah.

[Mooc]

Oh, yeah. That's the real.

[DJ Wells]

We ain't tell you to disrespect what is my throne today. Yeah, we're not gonna do that. That not gonna do that.

[Jeff]

The best basketball player like my pops.

[Mooc]

Barry was skinny. Barry was gone too. Do this. Skinny Berry was raw.

[DJ Wells]

Nah. Know somebody on Barry. Ever legend and last and s. Not least, man. The Yankees got one over the Red Sox in the river game. Seven to two. All right, man. And the W. The links took care of my fever, man. 9784 MV feedback. First game back injury. She went crazy. 32 and 9. Shout out to Courtney Williams. She had 14, 10 as well, man. Kelson Mitchell went crazy with 20, 26. You know Leah Boston had 14 and 7. The Storm took care of the Mystics. 84, 82. Close game. Ricky Boom K had 30 and 6. And Shakir Austin had 30 as well. For the Mystics and Ghost, they took care of the wings 90 to 81. Ronica Burton been hooping all year. 25, 13 and five. She got active. And Paige Buckets had nine and nine.

[Mooc]

Wow.

[DJ Wells]

Yeah. CC would never shout out to them though.

[Mooc]

Wow.

[DJ Wells]

All right. Be here before we got here. Tell the people that grab some tickets and some merch, man.

[Jeff]

Nah.

[Mooc]

Shop Club520.com baby.

[DJ Wells]

Come on man, one more time for y'.

[Jeff]

All.

[DJ Wells]

October 4th, if you know what it is. We're pulling up to H town. October 11th we will be in ATL. And last but certain, not least, man, October 16th we in NYC with it. Man, we can't wait to see our special guest. Special merch is going up one more time for boost mobile. You know the vibes. $25 unlimited nationwide. Tap in with boost mobile. Tell them club 520 sent you. We got a dope episode of club 520 drop dropping today at 12pm eastern. Tap in. We can't wait to see y' all tomorrow. 5:20 in the morning. The volume.

[Jake Hofer]

I'm Jake Hofer and this is Back 40, a limited series show on Wire to Hunt, part of Meat Eaters Podcast Network. Each episode I'll be asking eight whitetail hunting pros a focused, thought provoking question about hunting and land management. How do I hunt the best part of the farm with less than ideal access?

[DJ Wells]

Should you? That's what the real question is. Stand without Good access is not a good stand.

[Jake Hofer]

Listen to Back 40 on iHeartRadio app, Apple podcast or wherever you get your podcast.

[Dan]

I'm Dan, he's Ty.

[DJ Wells]

Hello.

[Dan]

And we're the solid verbal college football podcast.

[Ty]

Tune in for previews, recaps, bits you won't hear anywhere else, and all the emotional support you need as a college football football fan.

[Dan]

Join us all season long as we ride the roller coaster of this ridiculous sport.

[Ty]

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[Dan]

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[Sarah Spain]

The U.S. open is here and on my podcast, Good Game with Sarah Spain, I'm breaking down the players, the predictions, the pressure, and of course, the honey deuces, the signature cocktail of the U.S. open. The U.S. open has gotten to be a very wonderfully experiential sporting event. To hear this and more, listen to Good Game with Sarah Spain, an iHeart women's sports production in partnership with Deep Blue Sports and Entertainment on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts brought to you by Novartis, founding partner of iHeart Women's Sports Network.

[DJ Wells]

Check out behind the Flow, a podcast documentary series following the launch of San Diego Football club San Diego.

[Jeff]

Coming to MLS is going to be a game changer because this region has been hungry for a men's professional soccer team.

[DJ Wells]

We need to embrace this community. Listen to San Diego FC behind the flow on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Sarah Spain]

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