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Mook
All right, man, we back, man. You know what time it is? NBA free agency. Shit is crazy out here in these streets, man. And we gotta talk about it, man. We rush back to the studio, unfortunately, man. I hate to report this, man. Miles Turner, free agent. Move, man. My boy signed to the Milwaukee Bucks.
DJ
Yes, sir.
Mook
Signed to the Milwaukee Bucks, Tig. You know what I'm saying?
DJ
I left, now I'm back.
Mook
Yeah, the T jersey was supposed to be up there. Apparently, it's on the way back, man.
DJ
Yeah, I'm back. Shout out to my championship Bucks.
Mook
Nasty work, man.
DJ
We had something brewing. I didn't know what it was, but that's what it was.
Mook
Apparently, Nobody did, man. Four years, $107 million from Miles Turner, man. He is a Milwaukee buck, man. He left the city of Indianapolis to join our ops, man.
Teague
Yeah, they still trash.
Mook
Yeah. I hate this, man. I hate to see it, man.
DJ
I just don't shout out to Miles. Y' all couldn't get him 25 a year.
Mook
Listen, man, I told y' all good.
Teague
Miles.
Mook
Miles. First off, you got 100m salute to you. I hate that you had to go play with them bums up there in Milwaukee, but, you know, that's your decision. From my understanding, I should know more information about. We talk again in the morning. But I was told that the difference was $15 million. I've heard of some, a couple people. And if you look at the contract, 4 year 107 is looking like about 25, 25.5. We were rumored to have offered 360. So I imagine extra 15 million could have kept Miles Turner in Indianapolis.
DJ
I could have just offered that extra four that fourth year. I told you it was that fourth year. Remember? I said. I said boys want them years more stability. If he would have just said, they would have offered him four year 100.
Mook
Now, let's be fair. The reason why that four year happened is cuz Milwaukee Bucks, what they did to Damien L Today was absolutely insane. They wave and stretch his contract for the next five years. 113. What? 22 and a half. Basically a dead money towards the cap, which means that Giannis will not be a Milwaukee buck after this year, more than likely.
Kpj
That's so crazy.
Teague
We literally just.
Mook
Unless they're going to like have to just go into the tax crazy to keep them going forward, bro. That is dead money. With that second apron and the tax things that's going on in NBA right now, that's going to really like that don't.
DJ
That don't mess with your cap here though, do it? When you wave somebody.
Mook
Yeah. It counts towards their books.
DJ
I don't think. I think. I know it counts towards you if.
Mook
You aim to see somebody. I believe he just got waved and stretched. Pause. So, yeah, we can double check this. I believe if he stretched it, it's.
DJ
Like a certain amount of money. Like the cap hit is lower. That's why they do it like five years.
Mook
Like, not his, though. His is 22 and a half. He just got an extension.
DJ
It don't count.
Teague
It says their shower does not count. I guess the cap.
DJ
That's what I was saying. It don't count.
Mook
Yeah, they still have to pay.
DJ
They're just paying him like it's like the Tony, whatever the dude name is.
Mook
Baseball.
DJ
They just paying him like they paying him out of their pocket. Like, hey, we don't want you to be on our cap no more. You don't want to be on our books. But when it comes to the team as a free agency and all that stuff. But yeah, you still owe me, brother.
Mook
Yeah, you got to pay. What you wait. And he gonna sign another deal after next year too, but yeah, he gonna.
DJ
Sign with a new team after you come back healthy.
Mook
But this is a choice, boss.
DJ
I think it's a. I think it was a. Not a smart. Them got a lot of money. Whoever it is. Y' all just rich cuz y' all.
Kpj
Need 13, 113 to leave, bro.
DJ
Yeah, that's why I said at some.
Mook
Point, even may not direct a cap like, they going to really have to say, I care about this, cuz. Boy, that is some tough money to take on every year for a player, a roster.
DJ
Yeah, they just.
Teague
It, bro. Thank God dam is out of there.
Mook
So that money became available. Nobody else was probably going to offer four years of Miles in that situation that they said, oh, we got it. Let's make it happen.
DJ
Somebody got a lot of money. Somebody was like, hey, we gotta keep Giannis happy.
Mook
All right, so let's go across the room. Mook, obviously, we know how you feel, but I'll ask you again. Did the Pacers fumble Miles in the situation?
Kpj
Pacers blew it, bro. We not going back to the finals for another 25 years, bro.
DJ
Yeah, it's over.
Kpj
They acting like Tyrese Halliburton died, bro. He will be back in a year, bro. We gotta keep that tweaked for 15 million. We gotta find that for miles.
Mook
For $15 million. Go ahead. Teague, how do you feel about this? Is the patient.
DJ
I think this is the worst mistake they made since not paying me. It gives me that same. Nah, it's the same feeling I had. Miles, man. It was a difference of 10 million, man.
Teague
Damn.
Mook
I think that this move. Listen, KP, we trust, right? I've doubted my boy before. He's came back with some crazy situations. So hopefully, you know what I'm saying, I'll have something to be excited about in the morning. But right now, for 15 million, somebody in that bitch could have went. I don't care.
DJ
I feel like DeAndre AJ got to.
Mook
Become pace for that 15 million for that 15m. Somebody else on that.
DJ
Y' all might get Vucevich or something.
Mook
Listen, since we doing. I'm saying in trade situations. Yeah. If the Bulls want to send us Vucovich and Kobe White, we can figure it out. Let's. You know what I'm saying?
DJ
I could see y' all because y' all need a shooting big. I mean, this year don't really matter. They might as well not even go after nobody. Go ahead and get a yes, bro.
Teague
Bypass.
Mook
It's gonna get to that point.
Teague
Bye.
DJ
Yeah, I mean, I don't think he.
Mook
Got time to waste, so I wonder how he feels about that. I wonder how Tyrese feels about that. I would imagine that hopefully that there's a collective to say there's a bigger play for this, to just to let Miles walk in the situation. We should have kept Miles. If we don't have a better play.
DJ
I'm about to give Vusovich or whatever my Man's name is Aiden something. Y' all gotta get a big now at this point, unless y' all gonna ride with the young guys.
Mook
Yeah. Cause going. I don't know who a young guys. We're gonna, you know, next season with Tony Bradley at the 5. Respect King. Can't be it after a Euro step. I don't want to see him again.
DJ
Th.
Mook
Bryant. Thomas Bryant.
DJ
Tony Bradley, bro.
Teague
A.J. the.
DJ
Yeah. See, hey, y.
Mook
That's what we all. The Drake.
Teague
Yeah.
DJ
If y' all tank. Tank.
Kpj
And we still not gonna get him.
DJ
No. Y' all gonna get the fifth pick.
Mook
We've never had a number one pick, and we'll start this year.
DJ
Y' all get the fifth pick.
Mook
He's going to Boston. I've been seeing that fix, too. Yeah. Boston out here. Tank for AJ I don't like that.
Teague
I don't get a name. Zunis. All this smoke up here with the.
Mook
Big from Slovenia we ain't never heard of. He gonna come pick the Pacers.
DJ
Sasha.
Mook
Pap.
Teague
For real.
Mook
All I know is pain, man. One year of great success. Why y' all think y' all celebrate so much? We go to the finals and what happens? We was two starters in a matter of three weeks.
Teague
All these Pacer fans that was going off on us. Stick by your squad.
DJ
Yeah. I don't want to hear nothing. And y' all always hate. Y' all always hated Miles. He don't do this. He don't get no rebounds.
Mook
And you know what? Before that announcement came out today, everybody was like, why y' all so pressed to go get a big. Who only get six rebounds? You about to see why. There's a reason why we stuck around. He was handcuffed to us.
Kpj
We need Miles, bro.
DJ
Yeah.
Kpj
There's no other way around.
Teague
Y' all literally just blew your team up.
Kpj
Blew it up.
Mook
As much as I hate the Milwaukee Bucks right now, they got a great pickup in him because him and Giannis, bro.
Kpj
As far as Giannis, y' all is going. He gonna open up that paint, bro.
DJ
He gonna sit, he gonna protect the paint, and then shoot threes.
Mook
And what does y' all like to do? Drive until I got a passage.
DJ
That's the person you can bail out. He young Brooke Lopez.
Mook
Now a better Brook Lopez.
DJ
Yep. Young Brooke Lopez.
Mook
I'm saying right now, Brooke Lopez.
DJ
I'm saying.
Mook
Y. Yeah, bro. Miles. Miles is still, you know, saying help on the perimeter recovery, but you said it. The best thing about the pace of offense was having to bail out Miles Turner. Somebody with a latent Shot clock. You could pass the ball, get a quality shot. Now the Bucks have that man. Great pickup for them.
DJ
But who is that guard?
Teague
Gary Harris.
Mook
Shout out to Gary Harris. My boy just signed to Milwaukee.
Kpj
Kpj.
Mook
Kpj.
DJ
They putting the ball in his hand.
Kpj
Yeah, just paid him.
DJ
So, I mean, I don't like it.
Kpj
I don't either, but this is what.
Mook
It looked like right now.
DJ
I like him. I don't know. I don't really. I, I, you know, I think it's another playmate. I think Drew Holiday might be coming back.
Mook
They better not. Hey, listen, you want to bring. Listen, I. I have nothing to be happy for next year, so I'm bringing all the hate next NBA season. I can't wait. But, boy, they get Drew again. I am hating to the supreme, bro. No, no, bro, that cannot happen, bro.
Teague
For your team.
Mook
No, bro, that can't happen, bro. They be locking Adams. Make it right. Milwaukee.
DJ
I should never trade, you know, bring Drew back.
Mook
No, I hope he don't come back.
Teague
I love this for Dame, though.
DJ
Yeah. I mean, I just want Dame to get healthy. But honestly, now he get a chance to pick where he want to go. That's going to be smooth, man.
Mook
Go rehab at home and get away. You don't want to live in walking.
Teague
Away right now somewhere.
DJ
I wish we. I wish. I wish we was cool enough to call him. Yeah, he like cool, but he ain't that cool. He like, yeah, I with y' all, but don't be calling me.
Mook
I got called crusades first. Yeah, yeah.
DJ
Call Adidas first. Then hit me up like, I wish we was cool. Like, dang.
Teague
I called Junior, man. Junior claimed he live with him, so.
Mook
Shout out to the real JR Man. I need this family for sure.
DJ
I'm gonna hit him up on Instagram first, you know, just check the temperature, you know, I don't know if he mad, you know? You know, I never. I don't know if he like, damn, that's smooth. I'm about to get paid again.
Teague
I think he's excited. Where do y' all think he should go to Real?
DJ
I just want him to get healthy. If he come back and be. If he comes back and is anything like Damian Little that we know, load up to Drake. Like y' all would say, where the do you.
Mook
Yeah, bro, wherever. Even Damian at 80 is still better than most people, and he could go to any team and contribute and definitely needle. For sure.
DJ
You like him. I don't like him.
Mook
I want him to go to a team that's Already contended.
Kpj
I like him in Miami. Go play with Tyler and bam. That's where he wanted to be anyway.
DJ
I'm. Yeah, I'mma go with.
Kpj
Kind of be back to his show, give him the ball, let him do his thing.
Mook
Whatever team gives the Bucks the worst. That's where I want him to go. I want him to go to a team and destroy all the old teams that left.
DJ
I ain't gonna lie. I like him in Miami, too. I wouldn't be mad at that.
Mook
Oh, no.
Teague
He got options, boy.
DJ
Yeah, he gonna. He gonna be able to hand going.
Kpj
Crazy and still make them pay you another bag, too.
Teague
Yeah, his line going crazy.
Mook
Oh, yeah.
Kpj
They gonna be like, damn, you already getting paid.
Mook
Nah, pay with your way. Hey, I'll be getting.
DJ
He gonna go somewhere for. He gonna go somewhere for a smooth, like, 5 million. He gonna go somewhere first for the smooth five to show he can still play, and then he gone. He gonna re up for sure, man.
Mook
But we're gonna talk more about the trade. Let's hop in the super chat. Sarah Estar says, if I'm tyreside Burton, I'm breaking things right now. We are top three things to break other than your Achilles after losing Miles Turner. Yeah, if I'm Tyrese, I'm shitty. Unless they had a conversation and he feels confident. Or maybe he just don't care about next year because he rehabbing. I don't know. But making a move like this, boy, I hope that our stars were in conversation with it, because if not, you have made another problem.
Kpj
I know he's. I know he's pissed right now, bro.
Mook
Yeah, I know he is. He can't think about next year. Like you said, he could probably come back next year, but what's the point? We're obviously not paying for. But all I'm saying is if you don't do this, then in two years, like my boy Young Massage said, open that checkbook. There should be not a no. When Tyrese come back, you go pay whatever you want to. Fuck that luxury tax because y' all never paid it. And this maybe have been a year if, you know, things was different but cool. When Tyrese get back, hey, spare no roster, go crazy. Shot by Brando Said, hey, Jeff, the Hawks is getting the best pick out of the Bucks and Pelicans. If the Bucks move. Giannis is up. Yeah, he is upset about that deal of Damien Lillard. You know what I'm saying, How that unfolded. But that's what he's supposed to say.
DJ
Oh, he said he ain't like that.
Mook
Yeah, he said he wasn't feeling that. That's a report. But he's going to be in Milwaukee.
DJ
I ain't feeling that either, though. That is kind of crazy.
Mook
It is wild how it took place. Y' all wasn't even supposed to be available to get Miles Turner like that. That wasn't even supposed to be in the running for that. I'm sure there's other teams that we could have signed and traded. That was some wild that.
DJ
I gotta ask Dame, like, did he say, like. Like, yo, bro, y' all can wave me like. I don't wanna.
Kpj
He had to. It had to be something.
DJ
Yeah.
Mook
No way.
Kpj
You just wave name Lily, bro. I'm nothing.
Teague
I think they off the Achilles, though.
Kpj
That'd be a conversation.
Teague
They had that combo for sure. It's just. It's funny. Miles Turner is breaking news today. We would have never thought.
Kpj
Yeah, we've been saying this, and we like where Miles money is.
Teague
Yeah, that's what I'm saying. We literally just talked about that.
Mook
No, yesterday, about 8:00 o'clock. I said, all right, I'm waiting for notification. Like, we. We've been here for the last year and a half. We're like, what's going on?
Teague
I'm nothing.
DJ
Yeah. I could have gave him four years, 100.
Teague
Yes, bro.
Kpj
Easy, bro.
Mook
Somebody on that. On that bench could have been separate, bro. If that's what it took, bro. Unless again, kp, we trust. Every time I die, my boy, he come through with another situation. So I'm. I'm holding on faith right now, but if we ain't on that, dog, we would need some answers, bro. I need that press conference.
DJ
But I'll offer him three or 60 is crazy.
Mook
That's.
DJ
That's a slap in the face.
Teague
And we just seen what boys was just making.
Kpj
Yeah, I just took y' all to the finals, bro.
DJ
Bro, if you're gonna offer me three years, make it 90, bro.
Mook
They watch our shows.
Teague
Yeah. Beer, man.
Mook
90, bro.
DJ
Or at least 75. 60 is crazy. 75.
Mook
3 or 75 would have been cool. Yeah, he would have took that. It would have been cool.
DJ
25 a year. He probably would have looked at it a little different. Off me, what I just got.
Mook
I was good with 83 or 80. I'm like, go crazy. Even 90. But boy, 60 ball.
DJ
Yeah.
Kpj
I gotta go. I gotta slide.
DJ
That's crazy.
Teague
I'm out of here.
DJ
Yeah, I gotta go. You offer me standard. You gotta offer me damn near the same amount as that. What's Your boy off the bench.
Mook
Got who?
DJ
What's the little jumping top I'll be topping? They gave him 50 something.
Mook
Yeah, man, hell no.
DJ
I'm shitty, bro.
Teague
And it's no offense to follow and.
Mook
Say, oh, we got more rebounds than Miles.
Teague
Say less.
Mook
No, listen, bro, we're gonna see how.
DJ
We're gonna see next year.
Mook
Yeah, we're gonna see how jumpy you are.
DJ
The file then, man. Here we go. I'm out here.
Mook
Yeah. This is nasty, Miles. Man, if that's what happened, man, we dropped the ball. And there's no excuse for that.
DJ
He got a four year 60 in my face. Come on, man. Oh, we got four years in my face, bro. Yeah, yeah.
Mook
Tell me something, kp, man.
DJ
It's funny, man. It's jokes now.
Mook
It's nasty work, bro.
Teague
Y' all disrespectful. Where am I, Hunt? Done, bro.
DJ
Yeah, homie. Bro.
Teague
Oh, God, I'm damn near topping blocks in the league and all kinds of.
Kpj
He deserved to leave, bro.
Mook
He did.
DJ
Yeah. Good job.
Mook
I just hate that he had to go to Milwaukee. That's why. I wouldn't even imagine that.
DJ
Disrespectful. Man, I'm the longest tenure Pacer. I went to the chip. Ah, hell no. It was time to get paid. But it.
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DJ
What we got next?
Mook
Dos Cabeza said in the super chat said, can Cambridges go back to the Hawks and can we get Giannis in a trade with Milwaukee?
DJ
Man, just get some rest, boy.
Mook
Yeah, I was gonna say, boy. If you still waiting for Cam Redders, I'm here to tell you Cambridges can't.
DJ
Freddy's about to be hooking with me, man. I love Cam. That's my dog. But he about be playing against me.
Mook
Yeah, Big three, boy, you ain't going, boy.
DJ
La Rise.
Mook
We back. We back.
DJ
Ankle feeling good, y' all. I might be back. I'm still on the team, right?
Teague
If you pop up in that arena, I'll be like. I would start crying.
Mook
Hey, I'm about to hit this.
DJ
I'm about to hit the chat. See if I'm still available, bro.
Teague
That would be insane.
Mook
They gotta turn the lights off. You just come up.
DJ
I make it a comeback, bro.
Mook
Oh, man.
DJ
Where is Cam Reddish? Did he play last year?
Mook
He was the Lakers last year for a minute, wasn't he?
DJ
Yeah, but he got cut. Cam Reddish was, man, some of the biggest what ifs, man. Yeah, he's probably one of the damn, like, probably the biggest one pulls.
Mook
Like, yeah, we thought Cambridge was gonna be offensive weapon to leave for a time period.
Teague
This high school shit. I was like, ooh, we don't wanna judge him too early, but he might be ready right now.
DJ
Yeah.
Mook
Even in college, man, him playing next to RJ and Zion, they had something special going. Obviously, politics got a little bit.
DJ
Even when, like, being on his team when Atlanta, I thought, like, damn, this kid, man, once he get it, he gonna be nice. Yeah. I'm like, he gonna be nice, man. He had went for like 35, one game we played the Wizards. I was like, yeah, he got it, fam. He just needed somebody with a little more opportunity, you know? I'm like, trey got the ball and like, D Hunt. Cause they were still boosting D Hunt a little bit at that time. I was like, yeah, he just need an opportunity. But I don't know, it just never really panned out.
Mook
Didn't get a chance to connect, like you said. Even when he. You know what I'm saying? Started getting in a situation he was trying to keep and stay on the roster. He started playing great defense, like, with the Lakers. He always could lock up.
DJ
He could lock up. That's why I was really surprised. Like, man, with his athleticism, the way he played defense, I just never really. I think being with LeBron, some guys, that just ain't meant for everybody, like going to the Lakers and.
Mook
Yeah, like, some people not contender.
DJ
Yeah, some people need San Antonio, you know what I mean? Some people need the Danny Green treatment. And I think he might need that Danny Green treatment. LA might not been the best, you know?
Teague
Cause he's still young. He ain't.
DJ
He probably like 24, 25.
Teague
He around aunt Edwards age 26.
DJ
Ah, yeah, 26. It might be over.
Mook
Yeah, 26. Hopefully he get opportunity somewhere. If not go overseas, kill and come back.
DJ
But yeah, he gotta go. Yeah, he 26. Might be too old now.
Teague
They.
DJ
Damn. They write you off at 26?
Teague
Damn. In the NBA, they write you off. Yeah.
DJ
If you ain't found your foot in about 26. Yeah, okay. You ain't found your foot in about 26, you probably. Yeah, you damn near over with.
Mook
Especially if a teammate's super invested in you.
DJ
Yeah. Gotta think about it. There's somebody getting drafted every year.
Teague
That's true. That is true.
DJ
So if you ain't really found your footing, it's over.
Mook
Most of you, man, shout out to Karen Reddish, man. Moving on, Rick T. And the super chat said Luka being traded started this whole domino effect in the NBA. Yeah, it went crazy. But I ain't gonna put this on there, boy. This is some.
Teague
No, this ain't Luca fault.
Mook
Nah, this ain't Luca fault at all.
Teague
This is purely the Pacers.
Mook
We're in the market where we don't get free agents. So, boy, if you don't keep the longest senior Pacer, you. You better have a hell of a plan or you definitely fumble. And it is looking like the latter as of now. Man.
Teague
First, I don't know if they would have did that, though, if Tyrese was healthy.
Mook
If Tyrus is healthy, they would have paid with no problem.
Kpj
They paid them, bro. They just feel like they don't got a chance next year, bro. They like, why spend all this money?
DJ
N. They was just like, hey, we keep you around if you want to stay for this 20 million, you know.
Mook
But if you don't, like, we ain't no shit. You can take this.
Kpj
And they probably really was like, he going to take it. They probably thought he was, bro.
DJ
Nah, they probably threw it out there just like, hey, we want to make sure we gave you an offer. Nothing. That was like, too convincing for you to take it. Like if you would say, hey, here go four year 85 miles might have been like I might stay for 85.
Mook
And this all seemed like a rush because I feel like if that's the case, that you really didn't plan on keeping Miles and you tried to assign a trade with somebody or there's other people who could have used the big that we could have probably called and got some assets back. Yeah. So again, got nothing for him. Yeah, that's what this sounds like. A box job or a better plan. But right now it's more looking botched than a great plan. But time will tell. First team ball, defense said thanks for getting 22M for the next five years while getting another bag. Inspired. But as a fan, I hate that they had that roster around him. And Giannis. Yeah. Situation is really weird, man. Hopefully it's to Dane's benefit again. He will get another bag somewhere. Hopefully he gets to play where he wants to. But yeah, it's real crazy how all this time and stuff. We shall see. All right. Hashtag stunner said, why Paul Pierce call y' all the ugliest brothers in the league? By far. By far, by far. That's crazy.
DJ
Yeah, I thought that was a little weird. A little suspect to me. But. So who's the cutest brothers? That's what I was like. Damn, who's cute?
Teague
He coming on the show.
DJ
I wanted to ask him the gate. I was like, who the cutest then Freaky P. Yeah. All right.
Mook
Brother shot by Brando says I got the Hawks making the finals and being this year's patience told y' all the.
Teague
Hawks buried in the Pacers.
Kpj
Yeah, now for sure.
Mook
Yeah, now for sure.
Kpj
Landslide.
Mook
Don't worry, we'll be back.
Kpj
No arguments.
Teague
Maybe y' all think it's top five of the draft now. Y' all just about to have a parade and everything. Yes, or shirts that changed quick.
Mook
Was all good just a week ago. Literally just a couple weeks ago.
DJ
Is litin here.
Kpj
That changed fast.
DJ
Had banners all around the city Getting.
Teague
Drunk, coming to work.
Mook
Now we getting drunk coming to work for the wrong reasons. Speaking of getting drunk, the real Ginger King said, don't have a question. Just want to get DJ a drink. I'm sure he needed today. Little poc you up the good work, guys. Hey, I appreciate the game. I got a shot of ENJ waiting on me as soon as we get done with this episode. Oh, King chilling said Dane might go to the Celtics.
Teague
Jesus Christ.
Mook
I want him to go to A contender winning chip. That's what I want.
DJ
He go to the Celtics.
Mook
Let's cheat. Let's go. You deserve it, King.
DJ
Go to the Celtics.
Mook
Yes.
DJ
Matter of fact, that go to.
Mook
That's Go to the Rockets.
DJ
That's od that go to the Rockets.
Mook
Stay in the Eastern Conference so you can put out the books. No, I don't want them to prosper.
DJ
Go to the Rockets, bro. Rehab. Rehab. And sign with the Rockets.
Kpj
He got some good looks out there for him.
Mook
Golly. And the price that you gonna get Damian Lillard is ultra discounted. Yeah, bro. That might.
DJ
Yeah. Off the Achilles sign with the Rockets, bro.
Mook
Yeah, man. I hope this comes by. This comes back to bite.
DJ
But him and T n him. Him and Jason can't come back off the Achilles. That's not good.
Kpj
Yeah, that's. That's tough. Now that I think about. I forgot Jason Tatum was hurt.
DJ
Yeah.
Teague
Depending on what he own, bro.
Mook
Brad Stevens. Do the Lord's will. Y' all gonna get AJ the ban load up to Drake.
DJ
Yeah, if they get AJ that's fine.
Teague
Might trade Jalen Brown, bro.
Mook
Nah, you can keep all of them.
DJ
You can get all of them. Dame gonna be a rookie.
Mook
Deal Jayla Brown get you a mystery.
Teague
Surgery this year, Right?
Kpj
If you pull that off. He he the goat, bro.
Mook
That's what I want, bro. I only got hate. JL in the super chat said, patience. Gotta have something up their sleeve. Y' all need a 3 and 2K. We need everything, brother. Weed. Listen, at this point, if we're not gonna get it big this year, audition for everybody this year, go crazy so you get moved on, man. Ask Pascal if you want to deal with it or not. That's all we gotta do if he don't want to deal with it. It's time to blow up a team, man. Unfortunately, that's what happened to us. Solo D in the super chat said. Hey, that's crazy. I was just about to ask Ty. He ain't employed by the Big three. You hell boy. You win season, do you at your own job.
DJ
Okay.
Mook
Shout out to you, Mendoza said. Y' all understand like Will Smith. Like, where everybody at? Shout out to the Hawks, though, for taking advantage of dub organizations like the Pales and the Bucks. Damn. Well, we gonna see who done next year, bro.
DJ
Cause, yeah, that sucker. Both of them team really good, and.
Mook
Them picks don't mean nothing.
DJ
Oh, yeah.
Mook
I better have a 48th pick if that's the case. And also, if Derrick Queen comes out and looks amaz. Yeah, they gonna be Upset about that because he's a piece they could use.
Teague
Is gonna be good next year. Y' all watch.
Mook
Shout out to the pool party for show. All right, man. We will have more in the morning about that Pacers Milwaukee situation, man. Shout out to Miles Turner getting that 100 M's. You deserve it, King. Wish I'd have worse than Milwaukee though. Dennis Schroeder signed a three year 45 million dollar deal with the Sacramento Kings, man. A little bit different than we announced earlier out of Update, but shout out to him, man.
DJ
Yeah, making up for that money, boy. Good job, bro. Congratulations. I'm imagining he probably gonna be starting point guard.
Mook
Yes. Now we don't know what they're gonna do with the rest of their roster. We've seen some proposed trades for Sabonis, maybe even Debo. Also Malik Monk as well, so I guess we'll see. Man, shout out to the Kings. Jericho Sims is back with the Bucks. So they solidify that front court. They're gonna have him and Miles. Okay, we shall see, man. Pat Connolton know I'm saying he opted in. So they had to get him up out of town. Send him to the Hornets. Know the vibes. Rip that bread.
DJ
Yeah, for sure.
Mook
10M gone. And also the Denver Nuggets got their back up big. And Jonas Valachunas, they're trading him for Darwin. Sarge, I like that for that team.
DJ
Yeah, they need that pickup. That's a good one.
Mook
For sure, man. All right, let's finish out in the super chat again, man. DJ got them shades on because he been crying. Love the show. Absolutely. Eyes red, my brother. It's been a tough day for me. Max Black in the super chat says, have you guys ever seen the NBA this wide open at each conference? You guys ever seen. Oh, okay. Shout out to the retweet from the production team. No, we have not seen that. Yeah, you never know.
Kpj
Not like this, bro.
DJ
Nah, for sure you never know.
Mook
Listen, look what happened. A matter of two weeks. Everybody talking about you running back. Look what happened with the Celtics, bro. It is not nobody's promise next year.
DJ
Nah, hell no.
Mook
This is crazy, man. Listen, man. Free agency. Hope some more things happen. It is crazy. Get well soon to the Pacers, man. Get y' all drink today. Y' all deserve it. We'll see y' all back in the morning, man. 5:20.
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Club 520 Podcast: Episode 520 In The Morning Summary
Release Date: July 2, 2025
Hosts: Jeff Teague (@jeffteague), DJ Wells (@thatsanopiniondj), Bishop B Henn (@outthepearlys)
Title: Bucks CUT Damian Lillard, SIGN Myles Turner from Pacers, Giannis PISSED
In this high-energy episode of Club 520 Podcast, NBA All-Star Jeff Teague teams up with his co-hosts DJ Wells and Bishop B Henn to dissect the whirlwind events of NBA free agency. The primary focus centers on the Milwaukee Bucks' recent moves, including the controversial signing of Myles Turner from the Indiana Pacers and the subsequent fallout involving Damian Lillard and Giannis Antetokounmpo. The trio navigates through contract negotiations, team strategies, and the broader implications for the NBA landscape.
The episode kicks off with a heated discussion about Myles Turner's departure from the Indiana Pacers to join the Milwaukee Bucks. DJ Wells expresses frustration over the move:
DJ Wells [01:10]: "Shit is crazy out here in these streets, man. [...] Miles Turner, free agent. [...] He left the city of Indianapolis to join our ops, man."
Mook elaborates on the financial aspects, highlighting the Pacers' decision:
Mook [01:57]: "From my understanding, [...] household difference was $15 million. [...] 4 years, $107 million from Miles Turner [...] $25 a year."
The hosts critically analyze the Pacers' offer, suggesting that a mere $15 million difference could have retained Turner:
Mook [02:25]: "The difference was $15 million. I've heard of some, a couple people. And if you look at the contract, 4 year 107 is looking like about 25, 25.5. [...]"
A significant portion of the discussion centers on Damian Lillard's contract extension with the Bucks and its repercussions. Mook criticizes the Bucks' decision:
Mook [02:37]: "The reason why that four year happened is cuz Milwaukee Bucks, what they did to Damien L Today was absolutely insane. They wave and stretch his contract for the next five years. 113. What? 22 and a half."
This move has reportedly left Giannis Antetokounmpo upset, questioning the Bucks' future:
Kpj [02:56]: "That's so crazy."
Teague [12:05]: "He got upset about that deal of Damian Lillard."
The hosts delve into the potential fallout of Lillard's contract on Giannis' tenure with the Bucks. They speculate that:
Mook [02:56]: "Basically a dead money towards the cap, which means that Giannis will not be a Milwaukee buck after this year, more than likely."
Teague [12:07]: "He said he wasn't feeling that. That's a report. But he's going to be in Milwaukee."
The conversation explores the complexities of managing star players and the financial strains it imposes on the team's cap space.
A critical analysis of the Indiana Pacers' management ensues, focusing on their handling of Miles Turner's contract:
DJ Wells [02:25]: "I could have just offered that extra for the fourth year. [...] If he would have just said, they would have offered him four year 100."
The hosts express disappointment over the Pacers' inability to retain key players, attributing it to rushed decisions and inadequate offers.
The podcast shifts focus to Damian Lillard's future post-injury and his potential team destinations:
Mook [05:00]: "How do you feel about this? Is the patient."
Teague [09:00]: "I just want Dame to get healthy. [...]"
The discussion covers possible scenarios, including Lillard signing with contending teams like the Celtics or the Rockets, and the impact of his health on his career trajectory.
Beyond the Bucks and Pacers, the hosts touch upon other NBA dynamics:
Cam Reddish's Future:
Mook [17:36]: "Large Reddish was, man, some of the biggest what-ifs."
Discussion revolves around Reddish's potential to find a stable role or consider playing overseas.
Luka Doncic's Trade Implications:
Kpj [20:00]: "This ain't Luka's fault."
The conversation navigates through the domino effect of Luka’s trade rumors and the broader NBA trading landscape.
As the episode wraps up, the hosts reflect on the tumultuous nature of NBA free agency and its impact on team dynamics:
Mook [20:30]: "This all seemed like a rush because I feel like if that's the case, you really didn't plan on keeping Miles [...]"
Teague [14:37]: "Y' all disrespectful. Where am I, Hunt? Done, bro."
They emphasize the importance of strategic planning in team management and express hope for better moves in the future.
DJ Wells:
"Miles Turner, free agent. [...] He left the city of Indianapolis to join our ops, man." [01:19]
Mook:
"From my understanding, [...] difference was $15 million." [01:57]
"The reason why that four year happened is cuz Milwaukee Bucks, what they did to Damien L Today was absolutely insane." [02:37]
Jeff Teague:
"He got upset about that deal of Damian Lillard." [12:05]
Kpj:
"That's so crazy." [02:56]
Episode 520 of the Club 520 Podcast offers a deep dive into the high-stakes world of NBA free agency, spotlighting the strategic missteps and financial maneuvers of the Milwaukee Bucks and Indiana Pacers. Through spirited discussions and insightful critiques, Jeff Teague and his co-hosts illuminate the intricate balance between player retention, contract negotiations, and team success. For NBA enthusiasts seeking a comprehensive analysis of recent team dynamics and player movements, this episode serves as an engaging and informative listen.