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DJ Wells
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Colin Cowherd
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Mook
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Colin Cowherd
You just matter that I'm really than you. Okay. My chick better than your chick.
Mook
Smooth highlights instructor today. Shout out to Josh Smith. Hey, freaky smooth contest still over.
Colin Cowherd
Can you?
Mook
Of course the face is going to be in the highlight.
Colin Cowherd
Damn, I feel bad. Damn.
DJ Wells
Jesus Christ.
Mook
Give me that. T. Ross.
Colin Cowherd
Was he looking down?
Mook
No, he ain't jumping, bro.
Colin Cowherd
He jumping high.
Mook
Man, that's crazy. I sleep as a fool.
DJ Wells
I ain't lie. I knew Josh used to get up, but that one with his whole arm.
Colin Cowherd
Was over to the surreal.
DJ Wells
I've never seen that one.
Mook
Hey, all the yellow hog Germans are disgusting.
Colin Cowherd
I kind of cook.
Mook
Oh. Oh, wow. Ribos. Oh, that's crazy.
DJ Wells
They were to make an All Star game is crazy.
Colin Cowherd
Need punch and.
DJ Wells
I'm not going like this.
Colin Cowherd
That look better. Let these shooters three.
DJ Wells
Straight up.
Mook
Man, he would kill in today's NBA, especially with all the spacing with three shooters and stuff like that.
DJ Wells
Brock.
Mook
And the funny part is, was it him and Corey Brewer, the reason why they came back, that Rockets team. That's crazy, man. Shout out to J. Smooth, man. What game, what player in today's NBA would y' all compare him to or comparable? Like.
DJ Wells
I don't know who do that.
Mook
With that type of athleticism, that dunking.
DJ Wells
Like Zion Williamson.
Colin Cowherd
Facts. He like supreme athlete. Yeah.
DJ Wells
Literally just showed all dunks.
Colin Cowherd
So I don't know who just dunking.
Mook
The ball like that. Yeah. He got robbed. Definitely should have been an all star.
Colin Cowherd
I don't know. I don't know. Because he was super good defensively. Guard one through four. One through five.
DJ Wells
Yeah. A powerful jumping like that.
Colin Cowherd
I don't know. Too many people play like him.
Mook
I don't want to be lazy and say Aaron Gordon because they play a little bit differently. But probably athleticism to an extent.
Colin Cowherd
But that's probably who he play like. Actually, they both a shooter. Three. Not their specialty. Yeah. I think he would be. I think he wanted to shoot threes. It wasn't that he couldn't shoot, but at that time, it was frowned upon to shoot that many threes. Yeah. You know what I mean?
Mook
Yeah. The Detroit cry used to. Y' all know he would shoot them threes and he didn't give a damn. He shoot them anyway. But they had one of the craziest lineups, bro. Him, Andre Drummond and Greg Monroe is a crazy three through five.
Colin Cowherd
They used to do it in Atlanta. Like, no. When he pull up. Yeah. Like, bro, leave me alone. But he was ahead of his time because that's what was needed in the game. Like the game was. I saying he was a headlight, but that's the way the game was going. Big shooting threes.
DJ Wells
That's why he'd have been smooth tonight if he really had a burner.
Colin Cowherd
For real. Yeah.
DJ Wells
He'd been cool today. He definitely $200 million player.
Mook
Yeah. What? The floor spacing is crazy.
Colin Cowherd
It is.
Mook
Give Josh the open line against your defender 101.
Colin Cowherd
Yeah.
Mook
He's getting punched on.
Colin Cowherd
Especially young Smooth. No, not even that. Like, if you just put him in a pick and roll and he set the screen and roll. He's such a good passer. He can make second play like secondary plays. But he can finish at the rim with the best of them.
Mook
Most definitely, man. Shout out to 520 alumni, man. Jay Smooth, for sure. All right, man. D. Fox got paid yesterday. 4 year 229. It's a lot of mixed feelings out here in these streets about this deal, man. How y' all feel about it?
Colin Cowherd
Who got a mixed feeling?
Mook
A lot of people are feeling like. You know what I'm saying? Spurs kind of overpaid. Some people feel like what the spurs doing pay him this much money? Are they going to be able to move one from him in two years if they want to let their young talent shine. But they gave up a lot of resources to get him too.
DJ Wells
Who the else are they going to play?
Colin Cowherd
What I'm about to say, is he not like one of them ones?
Mook
Like, bro, I agree.
Colin Cowherd
He's 26 and like seven or something like that. He deserved that.
DJ Wells
The 17 getting numbers. Like, what we doing?
Colin Cowherd
He like 25, 26. 26 or something young, bro.
Mook
Yeah. I was confused by that when I seen it. I mean, obviously, Grant, where you looking from? The sources from. But I was confused with so much hate on the deal. I'm like, Dean park is a really good point guard. That's. I mean, it is a number, but it's a number for show. He deserve it.
Colin Cowherd
He's elite.
DJ Wells
I mean, forget the number. Who else are they going to give some big bread to over there? Who else is deserving more than him? Forget how much the money is. Like, I'm them. The second person over here.
Colin Cowherd
Yeah. I'm 26 and 7. Like, yeah, that's proven. Yeah.
DJ Wells
I don't understand that. That's crazy.
Colin Cowherd
Yeah. Because they got Dylan Harper and. Yeah. Castle. Castle.
Mook
Yeah.
DJ Wells
But what about him?
Colin Cowherd
We don't know what Dylan Harper. He hasn't played yet, bro. I know what dear Fox gonna give me, bro.
DJ Wells
It's a pecking order, though.
Colin Cowherd
Yeah.
DJ Wells
You know, that's what they were just.
Colin Cowherd
Saying on the Internet. But yeah, he gonna. By the time Dylan Harper up in his deal. Yeah, he's gonna be Dear Fox. If he's a player that they want him to be. Dylan Harper. Yeah. Fox would be on like one of his last years and it'd be a movable contract by the end 31. He'd still be a good player. Yeah. Briar is 26, bro. Leave me alone. Like, pay me, bro. What are we talking about?
DJ Wells
His name stands some though.
Colin Cowherd
Yeah, he is cold. I don't get it.
Mook
He'll be talking crazy. My boy's out the way. All you do is get out there and kill.
Colin Cowherd
Well, that's all he do. I'm. I'm interested to see how they play though. I wonder what lineup do they start? Do they start? Dear Fox, Stefan Castle got to Dylan Harper. Like, who did he start? You gotta start, Castle, because you still gotta start.
Mook
Yeah, they'll get paid a lot of money.
Colin Cowherd
Still got for sale. Soul Chan, whatever his name is. They should have got rid of him. Yeah.
Mook
Is that recycling? Well, yeah, I think they possibly might. They gonna have to at some point.
Colin Cowherd
But you know, do you Start Luke Cornett as the five. Gotta play a lot.
Mook
Kelly Olenek. Look at this roster.
Colin Cowherd
I like their team. But do you start. Do Harrison Barnes start?
Mook
Most definitely Harrison Barnes.
Colin Cowherd
So then who you don't start. Who CA was still coming off the bench. I don't like that. He. It kind of look like he might though.
Mook
So you starting. Obviously we know the Aaron's not the one who's at the 2 because you start.
Colin Cowherd
Vasil probably gonna start cuz CP started last year. So who you gonna start now?
Mook
So it's either between Vasil and Castle. Who you gonna start?
Colin Cowherd
Vasil gonna start. He getting that chicken. So getting Castle gonna be at the three. So Harrison on the off the pond.
Mook
HB ain't never came off the pond.
Colin Cowherd
Now they gonna have. So they gonna play a buddy at the four. The big man. Wendy and Luke Cornett. The five to five. Yeah. I don't see Harrison coming. I doubt it. I thought. I think they play wouldn't be at the 5 and Harrison at the 4. Or does that mean Sochan. Whatever boy name is.
Mook
He got started at the. That's the question. With that lineup. HB don't come off the bench.
Colin Cowherd
So if he.
Mook
I mean if he does, cool. I mean but you got a lot of people you gotta figure out in that wing position.
DJ Wells
Harrison Barnes can come off the men.
Colin Cowherd
So I know this is. But do you start Kelton Johnson. Harrison Bond Johnson be hooping too. And you still got Killer Johnson not starting.
Mook
Okay, then they got a hell of a bench then. Because somebody gotta.
Colin Cowherd
Yeah. Cause Kelly.
DJ Wells
You still got Kelly o' Learning.
Colin Cowherd
Maybe a backup Back up big.
Mook
Probably for L. Cornet. Obviously you're gonna have dealing as your backup one probably running the offense too. Me.
Colin Cowherd
Oh no. You need some more shooting. I don't know how Castle still come out the bench. Somebody got stuck for CP and I'm assuming he gonna take that role.
DJ Wells
So y' all just gonna start Castle with Seal Dear Fox, Wimby and pick one of them random bigs.
Colin Cowherd
Luke or Net. Just got paid that Luke or that.
Mook
Probably gonna start next to Wimby.
Colin Cowherd
There it is.
DJ Wells
That's your five.
Mook
Yo, back up.
Colin Cowherd
You did far there ain't got no shooting though.
DJ Wells
That's why I said they need some shooters.
Colin Cowherd
What's up? Yeah, Wimpy shoot seven threes again.
Mook
That's true.
Colin Cowherd
I don't know.
Mook
They got Fox are capable of making threes as well.
Colin Cowherd
I mean like they can hit threes, but I'm talking about you need a sniper floor split. But Say no. That's what his job's supposed to be. Getting buckets. He put it on the ground. Yeah, but he, like, known for shooting threes. Yeah.
Mook
Yeah. I think it's gonna be a little bit different this year.
DJ Wells
They a 7, 8 seed or 9, 10 playing.
Colin Cowherd
They at least would be a play in team for sure.
Mook
Oh, they can't be a player scene. They got to be higher than that.
DJ Wells
Yeah.
Colin Cowherd
I'm just saying.
Mook
I feel you, but I don't think they got expectations this year. They can't be a playing team.
Colin Cowherd
Playing is 10 through seven. I think they're gonna be.
Mook
Well, I'm saying, like nine or 10. They can't. They gotta be at least top eight.
DJ Wells
Who they better than up there?
Mook
Now we have an interesting conversation. They ain't got okc.
Colin Cowherd
I might take them over the warriors, though.
Mook
Okay. Timberwolves or Spurs?
Colin Cowherd
Even though the warriors played really well last year.
DJ Wells
Timberwolves.
Mook
Timberwolves. Read up.
Colin Cowherd
Everybody healthy?
DJ Wells
It's tough out there, y'.
Colin Cowherd
All. I think they might be. They might be ninth best team.
DJ Wells
I'll take them over to Kings.
Colin Cowherd
The Suns, Kings, Trailblazers.
Mook
Are they better than the Mavericks? No.
Colin Cowherd
Yeah. Yeah. Without Kyrie, they are. I still don't think so. AD One trip away. True. But if they healthy. Yeah, everybody want to trip away. I mean. I mean, as far as you got more. We just talked about they bench. They got more resources. Let's say Dear Fox got to go out for a little bit. You still got Dylan Harper come in and play Jones. Freaky Kyle, IG Marshall. Hey, Straight.
DJ Wells
Still there. Captured Black Russell.
Colin Cowherd
I like that Brandon Williams dude.
Mook
Shout out to B. Will give me the Mavs taking the maps. Obviously, I was taking the butt without Kyrie.
Colin Cowherd
Yeah.
DJ Wells
I like the Mavs, bro.
Colin Cowherd
Max Christian. Oh, if they had Kyrie, I say them because you can deal with Anthony Davis missing his 25, 30 games he gonna miss. They ain't no shade. You know you gonna miss that many games, bro.
DJ Wells
But yeah, Dear Fox and Wimpy is a hell of a duo.
Colin Cowherd
Yeah, but, like. Because Wendy might miss some games, too. Yeah, but I just feel like they could survive without Wimby a little more than they can survive without A.D.
Mook
Yeah, but no Kyrie. I agree.
Colin Cowherd
Yeah. I'm saying. Well, they don't got Kyrie for the whole year, so. I get it. Delo good, though, bro. He can hold it down. Yeah, but I'm saying if A.D. get hurt. Yeah, like a Wimby get hurt. I think the spurs can still survive a little bit. With Cornette and all. You just said Harrison Barnes and Kelden Johnson and all these dudes on the bench.
DJ Wells
I like Gaffer and I'm better than them.
Mook
No Kyrie and no AD is tough.
Colin Cowherd
Yeah. So you already starting the season with no Kyrie. Now you got a pencil in.
DJ Wells
I think the spurs losing Wimby is way more. Way more hurting to the program than AD going for the.
Colin Cowherd
All right, so what's your lineup with AD out with this group.
DJ Wells
You guys go to that rock show. I'm gonna push together for you real quick.
Colin Cowherd
Okay.
Mook
Obviously, Julio two guard, Clay Zoomy. Clay Clay.
Colin Cowherd
Dlo, Clay Cooper at the three. And then Derek Lively. You like that lineup?
DJ Wells
You meet PJ Washington and Lively over the spurs bigs any day. Yeah, out the gate. It's not even a question for me all day. Bisman, Biombo, Luke Cornett. What's the other big over there?
Colin Cowherd
That's cool, but I'm talking about who gonna put without victory.
DJ Wells
Without Victor wouldn't be ama.
Colin Cowherd
It's just be a cool team. But they gonna take a big ass.
Mook
Give me.
Colin Cowherd
I believe in Castle and Fox gonna score the ball. I don't see who gonna score though. I don't know who gonna score the ball for the. Yeah.
DJ Wells
Are they gonna win?
Colin Cowherd
I mean score. Who gonna score the ball for the map. DLO. DLO's gonna score, bro. PJ Washington, he gonna come through. I think Cooper flag would be solid. Yeah. Yeah, they gonna be a solid. There ain't nobody putting that ball. Spurs gonna be a solid team.
DJ Wells
You act like over there is f to just be getting 30 every night.
Colin Cowherd
You're a fox, Mike, but be getting 30. 16 last year.
DJ Wells
Okay.
Mook
If I had to pick. If I had to pick between those two teams, given the injuries, I feel more confident in dear Fox and Castle than DLO and Cooper getting me on points.
Colin Cowherd
Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Like said do the full. Yeah.
DJ Wells
Our bigs is washing y', all.
Colin Cowherd
But Luke Cornet gonna do what he's supposed to do. So is PJ Harrison Barnes gonna do what he's supposed to do regardless. I'm just saying they capable.
Mook
You respect Harrison Barnes.
Colin Cowherd
Yeah, I'm saying they capable of scoring. They've been like some of them people. You don't get put in position where like Derek Lively not scoring. He. He's a 10 and 10 guy.
DJ Wells
Go to PJ Washington.
Colin Cowherd
But he do what he supposed to do.
DJ Wells
Average 12 and 3 rebounds go to P.J. washington.
Mook
What piece of average last year? 14 to 7.
DJ Wells
Miss me with that.
Colin Cowherd
I'm nothing but that. That one is roll. Really Harrison born.
DJ Wells
Oh, my God.
Colin Cowherd
It ain't.
DJ Wells
Now, we talking about Rose being effective in the game, bro.
Colin Cowherd
That PJ Washington miss half the season. What are you talking about?
DJ Wells
And I still have better numbers than you.
Colin Cowherd
Yeah, that's the whole point. If you play more games, most time your numbers are going to be worse.
DJ Wells
He's going to have a better year. Healthy, mess him up game by game. P.J. washington is going to average more rebounds and points than Harrison Barnes year. We can bet on that.
Colin Cowherd
He probably ain't gonna play that much this year. All right? If they got a healthy team, his numbers are not gonna look like. You think he about to play over Cooper flag.
DJ Wells
He gonna be in the game.
Colin Cowherd
He might get in.
DJ Wells
He gonna be in the game.
Colin Cowherd
He gonna. He gonna be a trade target. PJ played 5 extra minutes and 30 less games. Come on, bro. I know what I'm talking about.
DJ Wells
Nah, I'm just saying don't. What does that matter? When I'm in the game, I'm more effective than you.
Colin Cowherd
No, you have more opportunity than me.
DJ Wells
I play more opportunity than Harrison Barnes.
Colin Cowherd
Hell, you play five more minutes of me. What do you mean?
DJ Wells
You got it, bro? If I five five minutes, you got it, bro.
Colin Cowherd
Oh, you don't know how much five minutes is in the game. If I play 30 minutes and you play 35, you got way more opportunity than I do.
DJ Wells
Yeah, I got it, bro.
Colin Cowherd
You don't.
DJ Wells
Give me P.J. washington all that. I'm taking you over the situation.
Mook
Are he gonna waste me over Harrison Barnes?
DJ Wells
If you give him the same minutes, the same opportunity, give me PJ Washington right now over here at some Barnes flat.
Colin Cowherd
I ain't say he wasn't better.
DJ Wells
All right, what are we talking about? That theme is y' all breaking the. Y' all breaking me.
Colin Cowherd
You telling me PJ Washington gonna be your go to over Dear score gave me 16.
DJ Wells
I don't know what Dlo gonna do because this is you making my point. I'm not. I don't know what's gonna do.
Colin Cowherd
Kyrie d. Give me 15. Yeah, they are. All right. You got 15. For real. What Clay doing? I don't know.
DJ Wells
I don't know.
Colin Cowherd
All right, nobody know we still play down. We know what we know.
Mook
25.
Colin Cowherd
My point is Fox is going to average 28, 27, but they got to turn into wins. What I'm saying is y' all trying to talk about y gonna get wins with people we don't. Y' all even have a clue what these dudes actually do.
Mook
You like?
Colin Cowherd
I don't know. We don't know what this gonna do. We don't know. We know what we know l cornet gonna do. We do.
DJ Wells
I don't know what Harrison Barnes is gonna do.
Colin Cowherd
You know what Castle gonna do. And you know what dear Fox gonna do.
DJ Wells
That's it.
Colin Cowherd
Yeah, but the AR people who they got a trans. I know Z15. You think he can? Nah, he done that. He averaged 12 last year. You think he can? If. No, Kyrie, I'm a star player right now. She averaged 12 last year. I'm playing all game, Mike average 12. I played a whole. He averaged 12. My opportunities.
DJ Wells
I got more minutes. I got five extra minutes.
Colin Cowherd
I mean, how many minutes D play last year? 25 minutes. I'm getting 33. So you play 35. Game 12. How many. How many points I'm getting? Or he has a 17. So everybody gonna average 16 points. The whole team. Cooper flag average 14. So the whole team just go average 15.
DJ Wells
Hell no. I don't know what gonna do on certain nights.
Colin Cowherd
Clay. Clay probably gonna take a hit. All right, so who gonna score the 18 might for this. My boy Summer was different than everybody else. Sound like a team.
Mook
A team. Nobody.
Colin Cowherd
Nobody got 20 points, bro. We don't need that any new NBA. 13, 15 in the new NBA, bro. People scoring 130 points against.
Mook
So somebody got average a dub.
Colin Cowherd
Somebody got average a dub. Now, this was when I played in 2012, when the score was 100. Everybody was getting 98 and 100 points. All right, everybody get 15. Somebody gotta average 20 something. And y' all ain't name one person that gave us 20.
DJ Wells
No, y' all giving AD all these games off. We don't know what's about to happen.
Colin Cowherd
You know what's about to happen. Well, I'll take. I'll take.
DJ Wells
It's gonna do.
Colin Cowherd
I take the under on A.D. all right, so let's.
DJ Wells
Why are we here?
Mook
To wrap this up. Over under 60 games played for AD under.
Colin Cowherd
Over. Over 60.
DJ Wells
It's 82.
Colin Cowherd
Game Dallas, bro. I gotta go with that. I got. He got hurt, though, the first game. He kill out for three months. What the. He's done. He definitely did get. Was killing, too. Play nine games, having a great game.
DJ Wells
And I'm rolling with you, man.
Colin Cowherd
Man, I love AD I love him. 60 for AD games play a lot, bro. Look at his last years, bro. He played 76 and everybody was hyped for him. That followed that with a 42 piece.
Mook
He played what, 51 games last year?
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DJ Wells
I'm rolling for 60 this year because.
Mook
He was 42 with the Lakers. And then now the maths.
Colin Cowherd
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's still ain't 60.
Mook
Yeah, 51. All right, we stay tuned with that now for Dear Fox. Obviously he getting paid like he is a man. He deserved to be paid. What's his expectation next season? Does he need to be an all NBA guard next year?
Colin Cowherd
He ain't gonna never make that, but his numbers will say he's gonna be an all NBA guard. But you know how it goes. Most his numbers match up.
Mook
So if he's getting anything north of 24 next year, he good money.
Colin Cowherd
Oh, yeah, he gonna. That's the thing. He's. He's an all NBA guard, but he never gonna make the team. They always gonna pick Jalen Brunson and he's local SGA Stephen. Yeah, they always gonna get picked over him. But he deserved to be. He just got out of numbers. Yeah, he gonna be in that category for sure.
Mook
For show man. All right, man. Shout out to the Spurs. Locking on a young core. Let's hop in the super chat this morning. Rose says, how y' all write these albums? 500 degrees, the Carter Carter 3. No ceiling. Sorry for the way it's like father, like son from the 305.
Colin Cowherd
Love.
Mook
It's a locked ass. But we'll just go for some of these that y' all rock with because some of these is.
Colin Cowherd
No, I'm talking about the second question. Like, what is that? That's what I said. That's so weird.
Mook
I ain'.
Colin Cowherd
That's.
Mook
We're not gonna read that. That's.
Colin Cowherd
What.
Mook
Hey, I didn't even read that until after I read that first question.
Colin Cowherd
First question. I a even. See, I already knew.
DJ Wells
What bro was wrong.
Mook
No refunds either.
Colin Cowherd
He category.
DJ Wells
My favorite, though, from there. There's no ceilings for me. I ain't got wrinkle. 500 degrees is pool.
Mook
Damn.
Colin Cowherd
They have one song I like on there, Young and Blues. The rest of that was trash.
Mook
I can't tell you the last time I've listened to it, but I don't feel that strongly about it. No Sillers is crazy.
Colin Cowherd
That's it. Sorry.
Mook
Forcing me there.
Colin Cowherd
I just like no Sills.
DJ Wells
That's my gill.
Colin Cowherd
Freestyles, you know, we can't hustle something.
Mook
To me, it's a lot of wasted fire. Wayne versus on there, man.
Colin Cowherd
On what?
Mook
Like father likes Beyonce. Burnett in the super chat says, who has the best teammate team of all time, LeBron or Stephen? And what they both do in the same era and same race is the player with the worst teammates better.
DJ Wells
LeBron had the best teammates.
Colin Cowherd
Yeah.
DJ Wells
Play with all the goats.
Colin Cowherd
Yeah. LeBron had played, but he didn't play with everybody when they was at their worst.
Mook
Yes.
DJ Wells
Yeah, he did.
Mook
Steph got prom Clay, kd.
Colin Cowherd
Prom Dre, Law, Brom got some teammates. Brookie, Jimmy. Yeah.
Mook
Now he playing with Jason.
Colin Cowherd
A lot of people, bro. Bro.
DJ Wells
Played with a lot of people.
Mook
Catch a lot of people in their problem.
Colin Cowherd
He got all sad. Oh, they was all washed like he got.
DJ Wells
Was decent.
Colin Cowherd
Caleb.
Mook
Caleb.
Colin Cowherd
Kyrie. That's it.
DJ Wells
Kyrie. Dwayne Wade. Chris Bosch was decent.
Colin Cowherd
Oh, yeah. D. Wade. Chris Bosh. Kyrie. Caleb. Other than that's a L, too. L Prom kd, bro. He played with prom D Way and prom Clay. Prom KD is crazy. All of them, bro.
DJ Wells
That's it. He said teammates. Not the best teammate.
Colin Cowherd
I'm just saying. He played prime. D. Wade, too.
Mook
Yeah.
Colin Cowherd
Right. With Jimmy right now. Yeah. This line up is crazy. Anthony Davis, Dwayne Ray Allen. Shaq was sad, bro.
DJ Wells
Double double with bro.
Colin Cowherd
Westbrook. We ain't care about Boo. So he went to Utah, bro.
DJ Wells
He played with Russell Westbrook.
Mook
I'm happy that they put my boy Larry Hughes up there. Shout out to Larry Hughes, bro.
Colin Cowherd
He played with Westbrook.
DJ Wells
Russell Westbrook was not a bum.
Colin Cowherd
That was terrible.
Mook
He wasn't a bum.
Colin Cowherd
He was a bomb with the. Yeah. LeBron played with too many good people.
DJ Wells
That was just a bad fit for Russell Westbrook.
Colin Cowherd
He's still.
DJ Wells
Russell Westbrook with the Denver Nuggets was fired.
Colin Cowherd
Yeah. Very official. With the Nuggets. Yeah.
Mook
With the Clippers, he was efficient as well.
Colin Cowherd
All right. Yeah. It ain't adding up, man. It's definitely growing.
DJ Wells
He grew up with.
Colin Cowherd
Yeah.
Mook
After that first lesson.
DJ Wells
Talking about what? To you?
Colin Cowherd
This is it? This K Me era.
DJ Wells
It is. You said DeMarcus Cousins. He wasn't on no championship teams. What you want to see?
Colin Cowherd
He tried sneaking one in. This top five.
DJ Wells
These all killers, dude. Don't disrespect him.
Colin Cowherd
The sun. The sun, not the club.
Mook
Is crazy and respecting him.
DJ Wells
And they got. Hold on. They got my Sean Liveson up. Gary Payton is not better than Sean Livester.
Colin Cowherd
Nah, hell no.
DJ Wells
Are we doing? Yeah, Steph boy, y' all gotta put some more respect on Richard Jefferson. Some on this list.
Colin Cowherd
What the.
DJ Wells
Did Steph play with Stephen Jackson.
Colin Cowherd
Before they change jersey?
DJ Wells
No, this must be that. Just play for the Spurs. I mean for the Warriors. I mean, ain't no way.
Colin Cowherd
Not his rookie year.
Mook
That was it.
DJ Wells
Wow.
Mook
That was before they changed jerseys.
DJ Wells
He played with St Y got step.
Mook
Jermaine o', Neal, legend.
Colin Cowherd
My boy. My boy.
Mook
Look at like future. Yeah. I think LeBron won his debate for sure.
Colin Cowherd
Easy.
DJ Wells
Last he played with K. LeBron fan, bro.
Mook
All right, Hustle says, where am I being brought? Ruben jersey with no draws on today. Nasty work, jameson, bro.
Colin Cowherd
That was 0n remember 5 or 21, bro.
DJ Wells
He was 21, bro.
Colin Cowherd
You thought you was kg.
DJ Wells
I was kg, bro.
Mook
Jameson the Lane white says, what up, gang? I asked a question yesterday about Kenny Lofton. I feel he deserves a spot or someone. Kenny Lofton, Excuse me. Serves a spot on someone roster. His point shows he can score, he can hoop.
Colin Cowherd
But now he can hoop. He just six four, bro. Six four, big man. They just ain't gonna rock with it.
DJ Wells
You can't be six' four, like not athletic in the NBA.
Colin Cowherd
He is cold, though.
Mook
Yeah. He's a person that if he don't get back in the NBA, he's gonna make a lot of money because he is a killer for sure. All right. Lynn Telford said, why not try Kaminga for Matheran, since neither one of the coaches with them. And you got me tapped back into wrestling after 20 plus years. Shout out to you. I like it. That's right. I ain't mad at it. I mean, if they're not gonna rock.
Colin Cowherd
With Ben, but I don't know, that.
Mook
Can make a situation weird. You see the ghost that came out, say, yeah, bro, we're not trading you. Like you're locked in, bro.
Colin Cowherd
Yeah, the owner's liking, but I mean, that's like a good and a bad thing because he a free agent. I mean a restricted free agent. I don't understand. I really understand their process, man. I gotta reach out to some agents and see what's going on. There's liking, but Steve Cardone. Yeah, but I'm saying, like, if it's other teams that want you, you can sign contracts with other team. You're a restricted free agent. I'm just not understanding why he can't sign a contract with another team. He can. They just ain't offering. Yeah, but keep. People keep. It might be lies. It might be his camp just saying a team on him or whatever. Yeah, yeah.
Mook
I know it's slow and everybody trying to get constant out or check the fence or whatever, but every day we keep seeing that from scenes, but we don't see no official sheet. That's why I was confused.
Colin Cowherd
As you said, I think Golden State calling his bluff. They're like, you ain't got no offers, bro. Where they at? Why they ain't talking now? We ain't paying you what you think? Why are we gonna pay you if we don't got to? That's a fact.
Mook
But do y' all think they ultimately want him there or they just want to get the value to move him?
Colin Cowherd
The value they just want. They want something in return that they feel is worth. And if they don't, they like, we can get him on the low. We like you if we can keep you for cheap million. Yeah, we.
Mook
We don't like you at 30.
Colin Cowherd
No, no. A good spot for you. We ain't like you at 1 7. But I told. I told him. I told y'. All, he fumbled when he didn't sign with Jalen Johnson Song. Yeah. And he didn't sign. I said, oh, he's in a rude awakening. They about to. They about to not like him.
DJ Wells
Yeah, you definitely said that.
Colin Cowherd
If you don't take their offers, they do get petty. Yeah. They ain't about to sh.
DJ Wells
Me getting spooky for him like you.
Colin Cowherd
Ain'T about to play no more. As soon as he ain't take that offer, all of a sudden he ain't play no more. They don't like him no more.
DJ Wells
They playing with your money. Then when you ain't getting no minutes, man.
Mook
Tough situation. Prayers up for my boy.
Colin Cowherd
All right.
Mook
Cato Kill says, hear me out. Why is that? K.D. get a pass. He's a great, efficient score for sure, but not a winner at all. All his teams were stacked and always underachieved. It's a three other top 100 players who in the ring without Golden State, nothing. Thoughts?
Colin Cowherd
Well, the thing about him not being a winner is he won twice.
Mook
So, yeah, he Got two rings.
Colin Cowherd
That's that.
Mook
And they needed him for both.
Colin Cowherd
And he really got OKC popping.
Mook
Yeah.
Colin Cowherd
Like OKC was when they came from Seattle. Nobody was fucking with OKC at all. He became the MVP out there. Built the franchise up. Yeah.
DJ Wells
I don't know what that.
Colin Cowherd
I don't know. After that, he was just plagued by injury. I mean, towards Achilles fam. Yeah.
Mook
And he's one of the best players ever, regardless of the situation. Yeah.
Colin Cowherd
That Brooklyn team don't get hurt.
Mook
He gets right.
Colin Cowherd
Yeah. We speak about them differently.
Mook
Yeah. Ain't no pass for Katie. I know people talk about he ain't got a home to go home to. Katie been killing everywhere he went, bro. One of the best ever.
Colin Cowherd
I don't think he cared about that. He got a nice house wherever he lives.
DJ Wells
He does not care.
Colin Cowherd
I wouldn't care.
Mook
One of the best ever played basketball, bro.
DJ Wells
His attitude is trash like mine, bro. He does not give a damn.
Colin Cowherd
You really don't.
DJ Wells
That's why he said anything better than everybody.
Colin Cowherd
Yeah, he like. And they know too.
Mook
Y' all think the okc will retire his jersey once this all said 30.
Colin Cowherd
Rankers n. They too bitter. They should, but they too bitter.
DJ Wells
Damn.
Colin Cowherd
They top two all time from here, bro. If you want an MVP to your jersey supposed to go up things should.
Mook
Golden State put him in the banners as well.
Colin Cowherd
He should go up.
Mook
Okay.
Colin Cowherd
Two time, two final envy. Peace, bro.
DJ Wells
Yeah, I deserve to be here.
Mook
Obviously won't happen in Brooklyn, but those two for sure, I think.
Colin Cowherd
All right.
Mook
Cutthroat803 says from the neck up it's vegan. The rest of his body, Lex Johnson powdered up. That is crazy.
DJ Wells
I'm telling y'. All that body powder official though, for sure.
Mook
I'm scared of who we about to search and see who. This is Flex Alexander.
Colin Cowherd
He calls you mj.
DJ Wells
That's still a crazy ass picture.
Mook
Nasty work, man. Nasty work. All right, jj, the super chat says follow up with the D M versus Booker from yesterday. How would you rank Ant, book, D Miss, and Jalen Brown, in that order?
Colin Cowherd
Hell no. Jaylen Brown first talk all of them.
DJ Wells
I'm nothing.
Colin Cowherd
I'm the only finalist MVP up here.
DJ Wells
That's cool.
Colin Cowherd
I'm first.
DJ Wells
Give me at least.
Mook
So you go by the facts instead.
Colin Cowherd
Number one, JB or Ant? I mean, I'm taking it.
DJ Wells
I'm taking Ant, bro.
Mook
All right.
Colin Cowherd
JB or book jb, bro.
Mook
Okay. Mostly I'm going with the files.
Colin Cowherd
Mvp, bro. Yeah. I can't say this. I'm interested to see what it look like this year. Dad's gonna tell me a lot where.
Mook
He get to shoot the balls out.
Colin Cowherd
What is that same?
DJ Wells
Oh, yeah. He has the op or, you know.
Colin Cowherd
He got the key. Yeah, I know he got the key. I just want to say how good this is. I want to see how like, do they still win?
DJ Wells
Yeah.
Colin Cowherd
It's a similar class. It's a simple playing field now. I'm taking a big ass hit, bro. I lost my best player, bro.
DJ Wells
They same team.
Colin Cowherd
But you still got. People still have their exact same team. I'm saying you still now it's your team. You gotta. You gotta. You gotta be book team. You got a D book team, though. Yeah. That'd be better in Phoenix for sure.
Mook
So if JB get the Celtics to.
Colin Cowherd
50 wins this year and he average MVP. MVP.
Mook
They ain't getting 50 wins if they go 500. And he averaging like 26, 27. That's a great year.
DJ Wells
He's not better than Ant.
Colin Cowherd
Yeah, not with this team he is, bro. Ant has a good team. Great team is awful. You have to get a phone. It's really him and Derrick White and Peyton Pritchard. Yeah. Anthony Simons can hoop. Yeah.
Mook
This is definitely not the Boston teams before.
Colin Cowherd
They don't got. Bro.
DJ Wells
Yang just replaced Tatum.
Colin Cowherd
Oh, my God. That's my dog too.
Mook
But shout out to the minivan.
Colin Cowherd
But boy, that's a tough team they got going on around there. He's gonna average 30 and have fun this year, bro. Just watch the highlights, bro. Don't worry about enjoy myself.
DJ Wells
I don't like that y' all do that. I do not like that y' all get to pick and choose when these players win or. That's not fair.
Colin Cowherd
Already won, bro.
DJ Wells
That's crazy. Y' all pick every day. It changes with winning and losing with.
Colin Cowherd
Y' all situations, bro. Matters, bro.
DJ Wells
That's fine bro.
Mook
On that list before we move on. But see the only one that's not option number one on that list.
Colin Cowherd
Yeah. Yeah. MVP on this piece of paper.
DJ Wells
You are goddamn now.
Mook
Now it's time to see.
Colin Cowherd
He's gonna average 30, bro.
DJ Wells
Okay.
Colin Cowherd
All right.
Mook
No.
Colin Cowherd
Good question.
Mook
All right. I wrote a super chat said DJ got to sell him the phone book when he get a cut. But shout out moot 2012 Kentucky top off college team all time. All right. J Real718 says. What up, fellas? Been rocking with y' all for a while now. Hands down, best pop salute from the 3:3:0. What do y' all know about Youngstown and the talent from Ohio. Shout out to Youngstown. It's in town. Ohio. Shout out to Ohio Red. Solid AAU program. We got some Hoopers out there for sure. Ohio State. How you feeling, man?
Colin Cowherd
I love Ohio State. I don't know no kids from Ohio though.
Mook
Sure. Shout out to Youngstown. I appreciate the love Tony Reyes and Super Chat says Coach T was something you wish you understood as a player that you now prioritize as a coach when preparing athletes for games and practices. Good question.
Colin Cowherd
What I didn't do when I played, I always watch film. Probably like when I was younger, like lifting weights. I didn't care anything about lifting weights when I was in high school.
DJ Wells
Boy, if you lift ways in high school, yo, that's probably crazy now. You would probably been insane.
Colin Cowherd
I probably been so much better.
DJ Wells
6, 3, 2, 10.
Colin Cowherd
Because I was. I was 154 when I left high school.
DJ Wells
Yeah, but you have a lot of.
Colin Cowherd
Bounce because of that.
DJ Wells
But I'm saying though, like if he was just stronger or he been a freak of nature.
Colin Cowherd
Yeah, my bounce. Because as soon as I started lifting weights, I was jumping so high. He need to be. Hey.
DJ Wells
Oh boy. He was better. He just told you when he got to college and put that weight on.
Colin Cowherd
Him, he bro, he was flying in high school. He was flying in college, bro. He's gonna have bounce regardless, bro.
DJ Wells
I'm just. I think his game would look different.
Colin Cowherd
Oh yeah, for sure. The moment I didn't even take way serious in college. I did it just because I had to, but I was still missing.
DJ Wells
If he was built like he was in college, you know how easy it would have been for him to score.
Colin Cowherd
It was easy for him to score Anyway.
DJ Wells
A being 200 or 190 sometimes.
Colin Cowherd
That way don't mess up your knees and all that.
DJ Wells
His translated.
Colin Cowherd
I wish I was a little stronger in high school. I wish I would have took it a little more serious in high school.
Mook
He wasn't like.
Colin Cowherd
He just cut up.
DJ Wells
How much you were in high school? About the same. About the same. 170.
Colin Cowherd
Yeah, I was super skinny. I was like skinny too.
DJ Wells
Jersey is 170 is decent though.
Colin Cowherd
Yeah, like, I was like. Yeah.
DJ Wells
154 is your. You sick.
Colin Cowherd
I was so sick.
Mook
Yeah, it was crazy.
DJ Wells
Gofundme, baby.
Colin Cowherd
I was so skinny.
DJ Wells
63150, bro. Oh, Lord.
Colin Cowherd
That's what. That's how not rebuilt right now. 35. That's how skinny I was though.
DJ Wells
That is crazy, bro.
Colin Cowherd
I gave you £30 in two months. I gained £2£30 in two months.
Mook
Oh, damn.
Colin Cowherd
I was jumping highest. I came back home, bro. I was Euro stepping. I was going through the legs all easy.
DJ Wells
And see, when you that big, people kind of scared to get in your way because don't want to get elbow nothing. Body to body, it's different.
Mook
No, I'm sure.
Colin Cowherd
All right.
Mook
Young art on the super chat says, shout out to be here for representing the big boy community. Well, baby, probably will forever be undersea.
DJ Wells
Shout out to the ladies that tapped into it. A few big girls tapped in. Put that powder on them titties.
Colin Cowherd
I seen that.
Mook
Training like pizza, though. I can get through the morning shift, man. Shout out to everybody at work right now. We appreciate y' all tapping in. All right, man. Making a milestone mooc, man. It's for you. What's that? Moment you realize you finally made it, man. You was like, all right, it's official now. I'm like that.
Colin Cowherd
Yeah. After we won our championship, we did a autograph signing, and I ran up like, a hundred thousand. All cash, bro. So I. I never seen no money like that. I seen that. I was like, ah, we lit. Got a little different. That's when I just knew she was.
DJ Wells
A little different, man. From autograph signing.
Colin Cowherd
Hell yeah. Shout out to chime, man. That's a charm moment. Ran up a million on that mug. What? Yeah.
Mook
All right. So that 100k would you go crazy with? I know you say my love it.
Colin Cowherd
I bought his truck. Black Tahoe. I spent all that hunting.
DJ Wells
Yeah, he smoked that truck out.
Colin Cowherd
Yeah, I did that about. I don't know. I just buying stupid. But I bought that truck for sure.
Mook
That was a championship deal.
Colin Cowherd
He had the craziest discount on a truck. Yeah.
DJ Wells
And destroyed it.
Colin Cowherd
I had just bought the truck.
Mook
All right, so which car was for? The people who are listening don't know what car was.
Colin Cowherd
I had a Black tie on, 26s. Like, rob deer sound system, crazy 415s in the back. Yeah, we went crazy. I think I spend 100 on it. Not me. Yeah, I know you got it for, like, 20 or something. Discount.
Mook
Oh, yeah, that's love.
Colin Cowherd
You know what's crazy? So funny, though. He bought that truck for me, and I bought. I told him I bought a Jeep. I was like, yo, you should buy this Jeep, man. Yeah. And you should trick it out, put big tires on it.
Mook
I was like, they raw, bro.
DJ Wells
I'mma do it, boy.
Colin Cowherd
Yeah. I was like, you should do it. He was like, man, I want no damn Jeep. I was like, no, they raw, bro. He's like, man, he got me messed up, bro. I'm like, I'm telling you, they cold. Yeah, I get no G, but I look like a white girl. I ain't see the vision, bro. So did he. I want that. I like, you can have it. I get the truck. Guess who gets a jeep three years later. Got like three of them.
Mook
I a see the vision at first.
DJ Wells
I'm tell that was crazy, too. That was crazy.
Colin Cowherd
Yeah.
Mook
N for sure. Hey, deciding bonus money. Ain't nothing wrong with that.
DJ Wells
I ain't never know. I never knew y' all got paid like that too, cuz.
Colin Cowherd
You know we a get money for being there. So that's how paid.
DJ Wells
Yeah, I had an autograph signing that.
Colin Cowherd
Way I still ain't sign be eating off this. Well, they could wait to get to you out of there, boy. I think that happened when I came to practice. Thousand out his pocket. I said, what the. He said, go do them autograph side when it ran up a 100.
DJ Wells
Wow, bro.
Colin Cowherd
I told you, boy. When I went to wake for it, I came back, they was talking bad about me. Our team is going to be so much better defensive. We don't have him. I'm like, for real. I think it ain't joking while I'm walking in.
Mook
Like, ah.
Colin Cowherd
They cry.
Mook
Coach crazy.
Colin Cowherd
He told her. I was like, oh, hey, Jeff, what's going on? Oh, he wasn't joking, Gary. Like, no, he do that every day, bro. That's just because he was mad at you. That's not. Yeah, like that's how you feel. He really mean that. I mean, I averaged them or two stills wasn't enough.
Mook
Ain't no love. All right, man, Load up to Drake Mr. Jefferson with a Carl Malone and Charles Barkley debate. If you have not heard it.
Colin Cowherd
Oh, geez. Damn. That's a debate.
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Mook
So basically with Philly, he was in.
Colin Cowherd
And out of shape.
Mook
Here's what we can basically say. He was taking Paul Malone over Charles Barkley partying due to professionalism.
Colin Cowherd
I'm saying Char was a rebel. He's not a role model. So I'm not taking shots at him. But I'm saying when you look at a guy like Carl Malone who trained for eight hours a day, he played for 19 years, he was second in.
DJ Wells
Scoring and if his body would have.
Colin Cowherd
Held up, he probably would have been.
DJ Wells
The all time leading scorer.
Mook
Assuming he's just talking strictly basketball court.
Colin Cowherd
Give me Carl Malone though, okay? On the court they talking straight basketball. He talking about when it comes to being a basketball player, he ain't talking about his personal. We know it.
DJ Wells
I'm talking about the discipline of the game.
Colin Cowherd
Yeah, yeah, he likes being a basketball talk a lot of and all that.
DJ Wells
That's they get inspired, took care of his body.
Mook
It was quiet.
Colin Cowherd
Just went to work basically. Yeah, Charles Malone. I mean Charles Malone, Charles. They both up. Charles, Charles Barkley. He'd be fighting in the fights and stuff, like at bars, getting arrested and it. That's what he talking about, Charles.
Mook
Off the court activity, you know what I'm saying was different. But also, Carl's off the court activity is insane. 1000% detrimental to a team. But if you just keep it in basketball, pure basketball, I understand Carl got some most buckets ever. So I get it.
Colin Cowherd
Boys didn't know about Carmelo allegations to you as a Laker. Charles Barkley was silly, though.
Mook
Charles Barkley was cold.
DJ Wells
Yeah, I got to take Malone, though.
Mook
But who y' all think of? Y' all squidding?
DJ Wells
I'm taking car, bro.
Colin Cowherd
I'm taking Charles.
Mook
I'm taking Charles.
Colin Cowherd
Too many buckets, bro. Yeah, he got too many buckets for me to just ignore. I'm going. He did wrestling, man. He like wrestling, so.
Mook
Oh, yeah. I'm rocking with Chuck, man.
DJ Wells
25 and 10 is crazy.
Mook
I'm rocking with Chuck, man.
Colin Cowherd
I feel like he was better for a longer period of time. Carl Malone was.
DJ Wells
Yeah.
Mook
At that peak. Who you taking?
DJ Wells
I'm taking Carl.
Mook
I'm taking 93 Chuck, baby.
Colin Cowherd
MVP. Yeah. Carl Malone's MVP.
Mook
Oh, it definitely was, too.
Colin Cowherd
Oh, yeah, Give me Carl Malone. I'm sorry.
Mook
I'm rocking with Chuck, man.
Colin Cowherd
Only thing was, Malone had Stockton dominating, bro.
DJ Wells
Oh, boy, was no slouch.
Mook
Kevin Johnson was a bucket, too. They had a whipping Phoenix. I mean, they just ran to MJ.
Colin Cowherd
Yeah, I'm gonna go with the 25 and 10. I'm right with that. Yeah.
Mook
Survive now, man. With me. I'm gonna rock out with Chuck up.
Colin Cowherd
But we'll put that poll up the stream.
Mook
Get Wells on the mouth, man. Shout out to the production team with good money. Who's some of y' all top five power forwards? NBA history. We ain't gotta rank them, but tell us tbd.
Colin Cowherd
Okay, kg.
Mook
Yeah.
Colin Cowherd
Carl Malone. Charles Barkley. Nope. Dirt.
Mook
About to say you put dirt kid over Charles. Yeah.
Colin Cowherd
No order.
Mook
Yeah, he said no order.
Colin Cowherd
We just.
Mook
Giannis as a power forward.
Colin Cowherd
I like Giannis. Tim Duncan, kg, Dirt Giannis.
DJ Wells
I'm just adding Amari Stoudemire just because I focused on Mari Stoudemire.
Mook
I like Amar. I don't know if I can put him in top my top five.
Colin Cowherd
I'll take Giannis over Carl Malone and Charles Barkley. He got a championship. And I mean, two MVPs already. Yeah. Yeah, I go ahead, ride with that.
Mook
I ain't mad at that. I'm putting Chuck in my top five. I mean, like I said, Carl Malone top three in buckets. Can't be mad at that at all.
DJ Wells
Who would y' all rather take? Anthony Davis or Charles Barkley? Healthy.
Colin Cowherd
Me. Anthony Davis, bro. I'm saying foot Anthony Davis.
DJ Wells
No respect.
Colin Cowherd
Yeah.
Mook
And that's not disrespecting, Chuck, but you.
Colin Cowherd
Still six three, bro.
Mook
That's what make him close, bro. For you to be a 64 power forward, bro. You was dominating, bro.
Colin Cowherd
Bro. And the win, vp. He was wrong. Yeah.
Mook
He was killing for sure. All right, man, we got here. John Wall talking about the death of the true pgs, man. He was on the podcast basically saying it's quiet for this traditional point guard. He said, they're really all two guards now, like you. Yeah. He said, you got a couple people, you know what I'm saying? Who pushed the game. You got 73. He said, Holla. Burton, who still played, make first push the ball up. But so basically, today's PG has to be able to score a lot too, to be a point guard.
Colin Cowherd
Part you do game change.
DJ Wells
He said that a long time ago.
Colin Cowherd
Peachy's been scoring, though. Yeah, he scored what he averaged 20 at least.
Mook
Yeah. John Wall was a bucket. I mean, he did always had high assist as well, but nah.
Colin Cowherd
Yeah, but I'm just saying flinger been scoring for a while now. Yeah, you got to be a scoring threat. But I get what he's saying. I was taught when I first came in league, you wanted to get guys paid like you. It's like it was a gift and a curse to think about it that way. Like, I wish I didn't think like that. Like, I wish I would have thought of, like, get me paid. But I get what he's saying. You really think about, like, oh, man, I want my teammates to get bread. He in a contract year. Let's make sure we get him. Blah, blah, blah. That's how point guards used to think.
DJ Wells
Yeah.
Colin Cowherd
That's how we was brought up. That's how my daddy taught me how to play. Yeah. I wish my dad was not like that.
Mook
Yeah. I mean. Yeah. And if you look at all his ears, I mean, John Wall was always heavy with assists. And like you said, it's a. We talk about the gore tosskins and stuff like that. He got people paid for sure. And still killed.
Colin Cowherd
Yeah. Facts.
Mook
Is that gonna be different nowadays for a lot of PGs like Dylan Harper? Dillon Harper should be more of a scorer facilitator going in. I know he don't seem wimby. He probably gotta score more. But is he a better player at 20 and 10. Is he a better player at 25 and 5?
Colin Cowherd
Probably 20. 10 to me, but he probably gonna average 25.
Mook
5, okay.
Colin Cowherd
But to me, if you can get 20 and 10, you make your team that much better. I always feel like the point guard job is to make everybody a better player. Yeah. That's why Tyrese Halliburton is like, love so much by purists of basketball who watch the game, like, oh, my God. I love how Tyrese played because he gets everybody involved. And it reminds them of when they used to watch Magic Johnson and Stockton and all these guys. He gets everybody involved. He pushed the tempo of the game. And then for the younger people like us, or even younger than us, sometimes we get mad at Tyrese Halliburton because we, like, he don't get buckets. Like, he own. It's his time to go for 40. If he's a superstar, he supposed to get 45. But he's just a pure point guard. And, like, that's not his job because he's a point guard. That's why Chris Paul, he did that shit to the T. Cause he got everybody better. But he knew when it was like, all right, I gotta take the game over now. That's because he was a top five point guard of all time. Like, I can do this, but when it's time to win, yeah, I gotta take over the game. Not everybody got that.
Mook
Have y' all been seeing that conversation? The Kyrie or CP3 conversation?
Colin Cowherd
I mean, Chris Paul, bro, I've seen that. Yeah.
Mook
Yeah. It's been heavy on that. It was just like, you know, as good as Chris Paul is as a. Like, generating other people's buckets, Kyrie is just as good as getting buckets. It's been an interesting conversation. It's been a very interesting conversation.
Colin Cowherd
So you had to start your team who you start your team with? Chris Paul. I know my team gonna be a winner in the Schumer.
DJ Wells
I don't care about all that.
Colin Cowherd
Can you just see a show out? Yeah.
DJ Wells
Give me. Kyrie Curry's a winner.
Colin Cowherd
He is a winner. Yeah. He won. Yeah.
Mook
Yeah. They say that his, you know, his niche is that if you put him as your second option and all his job is was go kill and not have to worry about Lee, that's the best. You got the best thing, but that's it. If you need to start a team out with some leadership and people who can generate shots, easier for other people to go. Chris Paul.
Colin Cowherd
That's what I think. That's a fair assessment. Me Personally, I probably would start my team with Chris Paul. Like a young Chris Paul and a young Kyrie Irving. I'm gonna get the best of both worlds. Chris Paul was crazy.
DJ Wells
Get a D West and two years. That was crazy.
Colin Cowherd
That was crazy. People was good about that.
Mook
Top MVP voting.
Colin Cowherd
CP3 right there.
DJ Wells
That CP was.
Colin Cowherd
That's how I got the wig for it. I ain't forget I said that's how play. I'll go way forward.
Mook
Yeah, man. It's been a very interesting conversation between the two. And then a lot of people say that people over at Kyrie's game because how he scores. But I think he's one of the most efficient Hoopers in that situation. This is the way he does it. Everybody is falling in love with it.
Colin Cowherd
Yeah.
Mook
25 is 25. Even if he shoots up for three people, it's still 25.
Colin Cowherd
Yeah. Like Kyrie Irving is one of the best basketball players ever. One of the most efficient basketball players ever. Skilled basketball players ever. But it's not like he averages 35. Yeah. Like when you look at him, he still only averages 25 a game.
Mook
Yeah.
Colin Cowherd
It's just the way you do it. It's so beautiful.
DJ Wells
Yeah, it's just.
Colin Cowherd
It's beautiful.
Mook
And it's super efficient as well too.
DJ Wells
Yeah, I agree with that.
Colin Cowherd
Yeah. It's just. I mean, he's efficient. He's one of the best basketball players to ever live. Because like Jeff said, bro, he shoots. Tony Parker probably shoot the best layups ever. For real. And nobody says it because Kyrie layups is pretty. Pretty. Yeah. But Tony Parker never miss Laden. Never. And nobody says nothing about it.
DJ Wells
I'm mad at that.
Mook
Yeah.
Colin Cowherd
Like think about that. Tony Parker couldn't shoot. Yeah.
Mook
But that floater automatically floaty bucket.
Colin Cowherd
That's all he did. He was one of the most efficient paint scorers in the league. And he was 5 10.
Mook
Nah.
Colin Cowherd
TP used to get active, like around the basket, bro. He was elite. Crazy.
Mook
Yeah. Small guards definitely tap in Tony Parker.
Colin Cowherd
But Kyrie Irving, his game is so beautiful. Like you can't. There's nothing he can't do with the basketball. Right. But when you think about it, like you said, it is only 25. Pretty interesting when you think about it. Because I would think kyrie Irving average 30. They probably could though. I mean, he could.
Mook
Oh yeah. I mean, it's kind of what he does. Let's look at his numbers of the years. He probably had his highest score. It's probably near that 25 range.
Colin Cowherd
I'm sure 27. He averaged 27 a few times.
Mook
Yeah, he went 25, 24, 23. Yeah. 27, 27. 27. 27, 27.
Colin Cowherd
Yeah.
Mook
Yeah. 50, 40, 90 club every year too.
Colin Cowherd
Yeah, it's crazy. I'm rolling Reezy, man, I'm biased and stuff is crazy. Ain't wrong, but I just. You would just think he was like.
DJ Wells
Ass damn near 50, 40, 90.
Colin Cowherd
Oh, no. He usually is one of the best basketball players to ever live. One of the most.
DJ Wells
I. I see what. You see what y' all saying so far. I was like starting a team and trying to get to that promised land. You could put a bunch of different players around CP and he can pull the best out of everybody.
Colin Cowherd
Yeah. I mean, just look at this. Just look at the teams though. Like league that. Okay. C team. Yeah.
Mook
That team wasn't supposed to be that good.
DJ Wells
That Clippers team. It was talent, but he brought that together. 50 wins.
Colin Cowherd
That OKC team. We was like, wow. Yeah, he turned them up, bro.
Mook
They was whooping with three yards.
Colin Cowherd
Yeah. He got Shay together.
DJ Wells
Yeah, Shay owed him a couple hundred.
Colin Cowherd
Look at Den sch too.
Mook
They all benefit from.
Colin Cowherd
They all learned how to shoot middies.
Mook
Yeah.
Colin Cowherd
Yeah, for sure.
Mook
All right, man, good question.
DJ Wells
Shout out to John coach when he done or something.
Colin Cowherd
Yeah. Around the game.
DJ Wells
Some way form or fashion.
Mook
I can see him being around the game. I can see him coaching because he. The way he see the game. Nobody else. He could probably demand that.
DJ Wells
I mean, like, I think he'd be great. Like a player development type of person in the league if he wants to play.
Colin Cowherd
He's like Ron coaching. They just see the game too crazy. You can't. He's hard to get people.
DJ Wells
Not even player development.
Colin Cowherd
No, I could see that Rosso be doing it. Yeah. He got one of monsters cp. Yeah, he do. But CP is such a different. Like CP could take over yo whole thing. Like, hey, the coach could be coaching and CP could like come in and say. Because he's a better coach than your coach. Probably.
DJ Wells
Yeah.
Colin Cowherd
So if I start working with a guy, like, I could probably like, hey, this is what you need to do.
DJ Wells
Like give me the whole team.
Colin Cowherd
Yeah, you in the practice, I'm working with you. Hey, you come in here and you're.
DJ Wells
Saying CPA gonna some up.
Colin Cowherd
Yeah, I ain't saying he gonna it up. Yeah, like he gonna. He gonna.
DJ Wells
Or start rising in there like, hold on.
Colin Cowherd
Yeah, like people will start saying we might need CP to coach.
Mook
We don't have CP on Tuesdays.
Colin Cowherd
Take your job.
Mook
But at the same they say like, hey, man, and he's like, could you go coach? He's like, no, because I can't. The way that I see the game, I can't explain that to people. And I'm gonna want that back and I ain't gonna get it.
Colin Cowherd
Yeah, when you start coaching, like, coaching really is just like how you can relate to players. Like, it's not how you see the game. Cause people not gonna be able to see the game like you. Like, I try to put money like some our point guards in my shoes, and I try to get in their shoes and it just don't match up. Yeah, like, I'm like, man, why you can't see that play happening before it happens? Like, you don't see that dude come off that pick and roll that low, man there in that corner gonna be wide open.
DJ Wells
You didn't say it too much already.
Colin Cowherd
Second. I realized that our second day coaching, I said, oh, they just not us, bro. They don't see what we see. Yeah, let's just meet them where they at, bro. So you gotta do drills to train people mind to see certain things. But naturally, some people just don't have that gift. Like on that fast break. Yeah, like on a fast break, if a big is running the lane in the middle of the floor, most of the time, the big gonna suck in the whole defense for us. Yeah, that mean a corner guy probably gonna be open if they're running. Instead, kids are still trying to throw it to the big run in the middle of the floor and get it stolen instead of skipping it to that person in the corner. Sometimes you just gotta train people. But naturally, as a kid, I knew that already. And there's some kids that know that.
DJ Wells
But I wish kids trained like that in those type of atmospheres instead of doing the cone shit.
Colin Cowherd
But like he said, he didn't have the train to do that. He just knew to do that. It's just a gift he got.
DJ Wells
I just also think that's true. Y' all do have gifts, but I just think y' all just play more basketball with y' all friends. Even if they were sad. You learn playing like that, you know.
Colin Cowherd
What it really was? We watched. We watched tape. And when people say tape, I don't mean we watch college games and stuff. We watched and one and one really influenced you how to play basketball. I don't care what nobody say. You learned how to pass and you learned how to dribble facts a thousand percent. Because everybody did fancy passes and you had pats and the only way you completed a fancy pass, if you had to throw it early. So you dribbling and somebody cut and you had to throw a pants and spin it. Help you with your timing on stuff. So you threw it earlier because you ain't want to get stolen. You wanted to complete the fancy move. And people don't realize that it helped translate into real basketball. Even though my dad's like, quit doing all that fancy shit. But my dad, later on in life, he was like that. Y' all used to watch. Helped you out. It works because I have to work on your left hand. You've learned how to do all that because you wanted to be able to do it. Yeah. Never had to work on hand.
DJ Wells
He was cat walking down the street.
Colin Cowherd
Yes. I had handles too, though. It was cool. I used to dribble all the way to filling them house between the legs and try not to mess up.
DJ Wells
Yeah, like, nah, for sure.
Colin Cowherd
Let's see if I can do a thousand dribbles in a row between the legs before I mess up. Like. Like that. Cause you heard somebody say it. Like, now that's facts, bro. Because back in the day, it wasn't too many people. That was just sad, bro. Bro, everybody had handles. Everybody knew how to play some type of basketball. We had like that now, bro. We had street dudes that could dribble.
DJ Wells
Oh, that's a fact.
Colin Cowherd
Like, it come down and start crossing that. Yeah. You would be like, damn. Like, he got handles out of nowhere. Yeah.
Mook
But at the park had a double crossover for no reason.
Colin Cowherd
Everywhere outside hooping, man. No kids outside hooping. I'm trying tricks. You like trying to do trick moves. Shout out to my boy Williams. West had everything. Black west had every was coldest street ball.
DJ Wells
And Black west was the first Steph Curry in the hood.
Colin Cowherd
That's what they get shoot far as hell. Yeah, he get shoot far as facts.
Mook
You know what's interesting y' all say that? One thing is everybody used to watch them and one mixtape, DVDs, VHS. And we appos it and go outside.
Colin Cowherd
And try that every single time.
Mook
And then Kevin Sampson had something interesting. He was just like, yeah, out to the kids training. If y' all was playing one on zeros a year, y' all would be great. But we play 505. He said, Y' all doing all these drills against people where it's defenders there. Y' all never gonna do that in the game. Y' all have to go play again.
Colin Cowherd
That's why you gotta hoop outside, bro. Yeah, that's how you get your real reps in. And that's how to show a double realm. They. That's how you get. Yeah, a double round. Get you right. Like. I remember the first time I seen Skip to My Lou. He did a. A wide one. Like a wide wind up and then threw it between his legs. Nast. And I was like, damn. I went outside, did this shit like a hundred times in a row from the start. Playing Flower. You gotta play somebody so you can try to move on.
DJ Wells
Yeah.
Colin Cowherd
I'm like, hey, y' all trying to hoop everybody we play. Start playing four on four where we play. And I hit somebody with it. And they was like, you know, Phil, you can't do it going the other way. Let me try. Let's right, like. And that's how we practice. But we practice on each other. Pause like, let's see if we can cross each other. And one need to come back and say, today, honey. They say, yeah. And he.
DJ Wells
I need to find that skip to my little verse. Ali Mo tape.
Colin Cowherd
I need.
Mook
God bless.
Colin Cowherd
You had to try. See all the moves the kids try now. They tried against a cone. Yeah, I need somebody try to steal this. Yeah. So you had. We had to try all our moves against somebody, see if they work. I'mma throw the ball off your head. That used to get the ARG right.
Mook
There off the easy. A lot of people hit me with the ball, bro.
Colin Cowherd
Well, you had to work on like, some. One kid. One kid we had at practice one day, I was like, yo, when he come off of here, just throw the lob. He said, I can't throw lobs. I said, you can't throw a live. He was like, no, I don't know. I throw a lot. I'm like, that's all. And one with us, though. We see him throw live. We trying to throw it off the backboard. We trying.
DJ Wells
Yeah.
Mook
No, look, no hook off the backboard of the fast break.
Colin Cowherd
Crazy. Come on, bro. Gotta have silly time in the. Yeah, you work on all your stuff that way.
DJ Wells
We had that and we had NBA Streets, all that. That just translates to the video game we draw, bro. Yeah, it's a delay with these kids, man.
Colin Cowherd
It's a delay, bro.
DJ Wells
It's a delay. I never thought about that. That's the real player development.
Colin Cowherd
Yeah, you had them. You legit had. You had to try all this stuff against somebody. Yeah, like, you had to try to throw a no hook pass against somebody. Like, you can't just be at home doing it. You had to go try them. No, look past it. And that helped with your timing. But these kids never had to experience that. They seen Kyrie and they go outside and they do all the moves. But all our had to. You had to cross somebody or make somebody spin around. You had to try, right? Yeah, bro. And the thing is we used to record like somebody have a camera out there. So we trying to make our own M1 tape. Yeah.
Mook
Shout out to CP3.
Colin Cowherd
I had to say. Cuz you probably say Kardashian tape or some.
DJ Wells
I was. I had my own tape. He SC like, oh, that's me in the room tearing my up. Let me see that last time.
Colin Cowherd
When we got said that.
Mook
Who Is your favorite A1 player? Ali Mo.
Colin Cowherd
I love Ali Mo. I love AO Alamo too. For real.
Mook
I rocked with hot sauce though, cuz hot sauce highlights was. Was crazy.
Colin Cowherd
His was so crazy that like I couldn't even try his in the game.
DJ Wells
No, but he was cheeks though.
Colin Cowherd
He was sad hoofer. I like the ones that can hoofer. Like Ray for Austin. I like the ones that can hoo for yes, bro.
DJ Wells
When Raer made it to the league, I'm like, oh, this crazy.
Colin Cowherd
Yeah. He probably had everybody think that was gonna make him. It was him.
Mook
I ain't gonna lie. Volume three Hot sauce, bro, was the coldest personal art, bro.
Colin Cowherd
Yeah, my hot sauce was clowny. Yeah. I just knew he couldn't hoop. Some of his rules was just too crazy. Like a travel carry.
Mook
All right, man. Good question for sure. Donald Ghost in the super Chat says was gonna ask. Have y' all boys thought about doing live show during Essence Fest? That would be lit. We would love to. We would absolutely love to.
DJ Wells
Freaky ass older women.
Mook
Shout out to New Orleans. Beautiful city, one of my favorites. We'll tap in. All right. Stevie V says T. I know you've been in the gym heavy with your workout and eating regimen. I work out and I'm trying to get bigger paws. Love y' all should all been watching this and jump Shout out to you.
Colin Cowherd
Tap into my cousin, Coach Brandon. Motivate. Yeah, we do some off the court sessions. Pause in the weight room with him. If you tap into our YouTube, you can check him out out. He have all the routines put up for us. Be him on his journey.
DJ Wells
Shout out Motivated Fitness.
Mook
Yeah, shout out to Motivated Fitness. Man, they got some virtual plans for you. You can pull up even if you ain't here. Shout out to Coach B. All right. Bobby Bo says B0. Excuse me when the next be experience so I can pull up my bucks Cream City Tea jersey with my flare jeans and the black horse with the white laces.
DJ Wells
That's outfit my boy Von Murphy, man.
Mook
Murphy say bro bro, they won't let you in. Bob Murphy says y' all probably disgusting but DJ Night Radio boys Ch J was hilarious, Joe, but PO with y' all was fire. Hey man, shout out to Jay man. Her B hit was going crazy. Shout out to the JVP dope episode, man. It's on that Patreon tap in for sure.
DJ Wells
I was loving that episode for sure. Yeah, you caught me falling asleep at the end of that mother.
Colin Cowherd
Yeah, he was knocked up. Boy.
Mook
The zoom in is crazy. Jamal Walkman says, would y' all trade D Fox and Mel for lamelo? No no no.
DJ Wells
Hell no.
Mook
Absolutely not.
Colin Cowherd
No.
Mook
Mbuck the ape says Jeff do you remember 09 draft class alumni Taway McKee? I met him at a park in Philly the other day and he funny as hell no. Okay, let's google search this gentleman.
Colin Cowherd
I believe McKee, you can make a.
DJ Wells
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DJ Wells
I thought that was special. Damn, Woody.
Colin Cowherd
I don't know, bro.
DJ Wells
Damn. Where is your square?
Mook
Copper State.
Colin Cowherd
Man.
DJ Wells
He was a bucket. 17 or 41% Taiwane 18 I respect.
Mook
He was getting buckets.
Colin Cowherd
Yeah, definitely.
DJ Wells
Shout out to Taiwan.
Mook
Shout out to him for sure. Catch a kill says Freaky Mike. Show a video of pitching from behind the play angle. Jet not hitting a ball fast as they throw. You can't even see the ball. Yeah, they. They doubt in your ability. You know what I'm saying? To make contact at the plate, man.
Colin Cowherd
I probably can't, but I. I don't. Okay, cool.
Mook
He said that's peace. All right, let's go to the NFL, man. Travis Hunter, wide receiver, 1 CB3. How you feeling?
Colin Cowherd
Be here.
DJ Wells
I told y'.
Colin Cowherd
All. All right. Don't let him. Y'. All.
DJ Wells
They gonna let him try. The team's horrible. Let me get out here and showcase if I can do it or not and if I can't. All right, cool.
Colin Cowherd
But.
DJ Wells
But told y'.
Colin Cowherd
All. You think he'll be a better say he couldn't try.
DJ Wells
No. Y' all said he not gonna do this in the NFL. The NFL? Who said it's not gonna last long, bro.
Colin Cowherd
I'm surprised he didn't play corner over receiver. I thought second string corner.
Mook
Yeah.
Colin Cowherd
I thought he would be first string corner and second string receiver.
Mook
Yeah. I thought he'd get more of a rep. Set corner.
Colin Cowherd
Yeah.
Mook
Reps that corner. We'll see. Obviously, I'm happy he gets the opportunity to even show it. Like you said, the team definitely ain't that good that they can't give him a try.
DJ Wells
Like, I agree with y'.
Colin Cowherd
All.
DJ Wells
It probably.
Colin Cowherd
It's. It's hard.
DJ Wells
I agree. But. But bro, he on the Jaguars, bro. Who gives a, bro?
Mook
Yeah, I definitely think that he'll probably be a better defender than wide receiver, but hey, he's. He's talented, man. I hope he gets a chance to do good to both. For sure. Shout out to my dog. All right, man. Shador QB4 going to the preseason. Yeah. That Browns QB locked.
Colin Cowherd
He's a.
DJ Wells
Now, I understand that, but I'm saying, like you. He's not getting in you headset you.
Colin Cowherd
No, no, no. He street clothes.
DJ Wells
Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Like, I understand. So you don't even get the head, you know.
Colin Cowherd
Yeah, my boy. I. He can get hurt. He can get hurt. He can get hurt, and then I'm coming in.
DJ Wells
Yeah, I understand you. I'm saying on the side, you know, they might.
Colin Cowherd
They might.
DJ Wells
Tell me.
Colin Cowherd
They tell your ass you have a chain on, bro. Tell me. Stay at home, bro. Yeah, he might not.
Mook
He g have a brown hoodie on. But that. That QB lock is so messed up. It's people hurt that baring somebody else over here. Everybody. Yeah, I. I don't like it.
Colin Cowherd
He can't be this sad, though. They said he'd be playing well. So what's the problem?
DJ Wells
They got you up.
Colin Cowherd
They do. Who do like them? Who? Obviously they like them. Don't like them.
Mook
No, they don't like.
Colin Cowherd
That.
Mook
I ain't really want to rock with you, but I had to. That's. That's. That's enough right there.
DJ Wells
For you to say that in the media is very, very disrespectful.
Colin Cowherd
I need to get off this.
DJ Wells
Y' all talk about that off the cameras, bro. Don't do me like that.
Mook
He might 1000% feel that way, but he can most certainly can't say that right now.
Colin Cowherd
Would say a word.
Mook
He can't say nothing, which sucks.
Colin Cowherd
He just deal with it. This all come back from how he started the whole process. You just gotta be cool, fam. That was a scary thing about Ace Bailey. I was praying that they ain't try to Ace Bailey do Ace Bailey like this. Obviously, his talent was way more superior than Shador, but they trying to humble him. Yeah. If he would have just been cool, he would just did all the process threw at the combine. Mind humble me. Why can't your daddy. Sister, we couldn't humble your daddy.
DJ Wells
That's why I told y' all in the beginning, bro. That's why I knew Kim World wasn't going had the same type of treatment as him, bro. Cause he a trench baby. He grateful for everything. Say all the right. The number one pick.
Mook
Yeah, but like you said, they. He's even some of that. The hate towards Dion. He catching residuals for that. And like you said, the way he went about it, they don't like that. They don't want people to follow their footsteps. They want anybody who might look like him. Act that way.
Colin Cowherd
They.
Mook
No, this is what's going to happen to you. So you better fall in line up.
Colin Cowherd
You know what Dion did on his. His combine?
DJ Wells
Yeah.
Colin Cowherd
Yeah.
DJ Wells
And even told them things. Y' all better not pick me.
Colin Cowherd
Yeah. In the 90s, he was a superior athlete, though. Yeah. Yeah. There was nothing you could. You couldn't deny his talent. You could deny this. Yeah. Like, you ain't a superior. You ain't no crazy athlete. Yeah, you a pocket passer.
DJ Wells
But I.
Colin Cowherd
Which you can find.
DJ Wells
I understand.
Colin Cowherd
Like, you know what I mean?
DJ Wells
I understand that, bro. But. But I don't know. Like, he's. He is cocky, confident, but Jesus Christ, bro.
Colin Cowherd
Yeah, they.
DJ Wells
Y' all already damn near didn't pick me at all.
Colin Cowherd
Now y' all gonna keep.
DJ Wells
Then you treat me like this in the media. I'm coming to practice every day.
Colin Cowherd
Yeah, you ain't doing nothing wrong.
DJ Wells
Oh, God. Let off a little.
Mook
And respect to that team. They got Miles Garbo. Every clip I see in that social issue door, they milking it.
Colin Cowherd
I just don't. I just don't like me, bro. Hey, they don't. They don't like him now. It's a agenda on him now. But he. He brought it. He kind of brought it on himself a little bit. If he would have went. Not to say, like, go against your pops or nothing, but he would have just went his own route. Pops turn up, but I ain't chill. I'm chill. Like, I'm lamelo. Like, my pops do all this, but I'm just chilling, Lonzo. I'm just chilling. I can't control him. Yeah, I'm chilling. I'm. At every interview, I'm doing this. He was trying to act like them. Yeah. He was like, yeah, I'mma change when I get there. It went from imma change everything to I'm just happy to be here. Like, yeah, it should have been there from the beginning. I get it. Yeah.
Mook
It ain't fair. And it's messed up because they said in the tone, let's even pass him up, but it's just a nasty situation.
Colin Cowherd
This is how he was raised, though, bro. He come up under Dion, bro. This is what we do. We turn up.
Mook
I can't.
Colin Cowherd
But I don't even know if that's how. I don't even know if that was really him because, like, he out there doing his. You gotta think. I'm saying he was turned, but you gotta think when he went to. Out of high school, he wasn't like that. That.
DJ Wells
Yeah. But in Jeff saying, if you gonna do all this, you damn got to be cam new.
Colin Cowherd
You do.
Mook
Yeah, gothas, you gotta be a superior.
DJ Wells
That's the disconnect.
Colin Cowherd
But they was trying to push it like he was Cam Newton. No, you gota.
DJ Wells
But the professionals know if you bring a kid in the watch, like, let him play against y', all, y' all gonna know. Y' all don't give a how lit somebody.
Colin Cowherd
Yeah, for sure.
DJ Wells
You talk about Mikey Williams all the time. Just respect. But it's a difference. Like, and hype everyone really don't know the game.
Colin Cowherd
See you.
DJ Wells
It's like, damn. Nah, I don't know.
Colin Cowherd
Know no disrespect to them. They did a great job. They just promoted themselves very well. Like, and he was doing numbers. He was doing numbers. He's a good player. But I'm saying, the way they promoted it was, like, as high as your.
DJ Wells
Ego is, you have to be like, the next coming of Jesus Christ.
Colin Cowherd
Travis Hunter. Yeah. Like, say nothing. Yeah, yeah. He at the same place. I'm at the same place. And I ain't say the word. So I'm doing all the corny. I'm dancing with people corny. They just different. Yeah, but, like, that ain't really. I ain't saying that ain't Shador, but that really ain't Shador. You gotta think Mike and Amy. Shador. You weren't even like. Like, Travis Hunter was like that out of high school. Yeah, I was the number one player in the country.
DJ Wells
Country.
Colin Cowherd
Yeah. Shadow was 380.
Mook
He grinded.
Colin Cowherd
You know what I'm saying? So it's like, yo, your beginning should be even different because you really wasn't like that. Yeah, you was humble. You should be like, yo, I worked hard. I got where I'm at. Like, get what y' all say. Talent, it don't match. Yeah, like, Travis, if Travis Hunter was like, I'm the best in the world. Yeah, you've been.
DJ Wells
Travis was doing this.
Colin Cowherd
You ain't having, like, all right.
DJ Wells
In combat. We still gonna get you.
Colin Cowherd
Yeah, like, chill out now. Yeah, chill out now. You still number one pick like, okay.
Mook
Ace Bailey.
Colin Cowherd
Perfect. Yeah, yeah, relax now. He's still going top five. Gonna get you at three. You gonna go five now. I was gonna get you at three. You going in the eighth round.
DJ Wells
They did my boy Greasy.
Colin Cowherd
They did.
DJ Wells
I ain't gonna lie, bro.
Colin Cowherd
They. He still. He still.
DJ Wells
I've never seen nobody get treated like this, bro.
Colin Cowherd
He still. That's what I'm telling, cuz. His talent wasn't Superior, bro. Like, he. Like, if he had. If he ran a 4, a 4.
Mook
3, somebody would have went against the grade.
Colin Cowherd
They would. Somebody been like, he throwing a ball like that Charts. Yeah. He don't got nothing that's off the charts.
Mook
The GM's is just like, all right, we rock with him, but we don't feel like he gonna change our franchise. Us to go against this program. Because if we go against this program, we're gonna have to deal with the repercussions.
Colin Cowherd
And Daddy coming, Woody. Now, if he was 63 running a 43, throwing that ball like that. Yeah. Let me figure this out.
DJ Wells
But I feel like y' all right. But I feel like now I'm in practice, we in training camp or whatever we doing. And I'm showing y', all, y'.
Colin Cowherd
All.
DJ Wells
I'm probably showing y' all that I'm better than these. This number three, at least.
Colin Cowherd
Yeah.
DJ Wells
With me, bro.
Colin Cowherd
Yeah. For what we don't like damage is done. For what we don't like, damage basically done, bro. We don't like your family. This is personal.
Mook
I don't like you or your daddy.
Colin Cowherd
So we know clearly better than everybody here. Then it's over. Yeah. Yeah.
Mook
What was just a story, man. He deserves opportunity.
Colin Cowherd
But you know what's going to happen.
Mook
In that locker room, bro? Kenny Picket, Joe Fl. You know to happen. Everybody's gonna get hurt, and it's gonna be sh. Go heal that first.
Colin Cowherd
Heal. They think he cocky down. Oh, he gonna show it. Oh, he ain't gonna do it when he get paid. Oh, he gonna act a fool. He ain't gonna do it. He g. He gonna. I think he learned it. I think he learned it now. Like, hey, yo, yeah.
DJ Wells
For you be treat like this. You might want.
Colin Cowherd
Look at that chicken, bro. The money, it don't matter, cuz, you know, you would think you about to get paid. Be like, n. Wait, t. I get.
Mook
Paid T. He gonna be look right on the game.
DJ Wells
Well, he better look straight up, bro.
Colin Cowherd
These kind of stories be working out, bro. Yeah, I think he gonna. I think he's just gonna. I think he gonna kill and he just gonna chill like, this is what I do. I'm here to try to be the best quarterback I could be. Do that, bro. Turn. Turn up. Yeah, you up, bro. That's what everybody wants you to do, bro.
DJ Wells
So do it.
Colin Cowherd
That's what they say.
DJ Wells
Everybody wants you to get off your block.
Colin Cowherd
Yeah. Stay locked in, bro. They want you, you know, crash it out. They want you to crash out, bro. Stay Locked in. Tune in. Hey, man.
Mook
Shout out to Shador Major. Shout out for sure. MLB scores. Let's get to it. Astros took care of the Mars yesterday, 8 to 2. The Tigers defeated Twins 6 to 3. The Pirates defeated the Giants close from 5 to 4. And the Phillies beat the sleaze off the Orioles yesterday 13 and three. Oh, excuse three. Kyle Swer with a crazy home run yesterday. Hold up to Drake, bro.
Colin Cowherd
Is there any retired baseball players that can hit us up? Wow.
Mook
You know what this is? Second home run MVP chess.
DJ Wells
We need somebody from the Indian.
Mook
Number 40 on the year with a grand slam. That is crazy.
Colin Cowherd
Any retired baseball players in Indiana that would love to come chop it up with us, we would love to let you be our MLB analyst.
Mook
Come tap in. Come have some fun. For sure.
Colin Cowherd
Who you think gonna win it out this year, man?
Mook
Yeah, give me another month, man. But it's.
Colin Cowherd
It's.
Mook
It's. It's tough right now. It's tough right now. It's a couple things. I feel like the Tigers definitely can make a run.
Colin Cowherd
Let's go, Marlin. Detroit been hooping.
Mook
They have, man.
Colin Cowherd
Let's go.
Mook
Martin. Put my money on somebody. Beat up the Marlins. Be working in with them.
Colin Cowherd
Yeah, they had a good moment.
Mook
Yeah. I ain't mad at him.
Colin Cowherd
Is that that one word? That's that website. I knew it. He still be watching, bro. My bad, bro. The cheeks, you the real grass.
DJ Wells
I absolutely tapped on Twitter, right?
Colin Cowherd
Yeah. Twitter got that, too.
Mook
Twitter got that.
Colin Cowherd
Yeah, that's.
DJ Wells
That's the best.
Colin Cowherd
Twitter hand.
Mook
Shout out to Twitter for show X. Excuse me. The guard securing the mess. 7 6, but Peter L. A home run was fire. Anyway. Let's see it, boy. Where? Yard. There's a line here.
Colin Cowherd
The center field back. Martinez, too.
DJ Wells
What was that? That.
Mook
Play it again.
Colin Cowherd
Play it again.
Mook
Man, that hurt.
Colin Cowherd
Getting foul. My boy turned up in the pole. His empire is red as hell, though.
DJ Wells
Y' all trying to predict some. That ain't there, bro. We ain't all the people that was in my dms. Look, stupid ass. Calling in the polo. Chilling. Don't need no glove.
Colin Cowherd
That's lame.
DJ Wells
I don't think that that is lame. To bring a glove to the field, you just need your baseball. Walking around with a baseball glove.
Mook
If you bring a bat to the.
DJ Wells
Game, you need around G bridge dribbling the ball. What the are you about to do?
Colin Cowherd
Little kids. Little kids do that all, bro.
Mook
Oh, man.
DJ Wells
That's crazy.
Colin Cowherd
Hey, bring the basketball so you can sign it.
DJ Wells
Respect, bro.
Mook
Shout out to Kon oh, man. Shout out the guards from getting the dub. Anyways, Red Sox took care of The Royals yesterday, 8 to 5. Brewers took care of your BR yesterday, 3 to 1.
Colin Cowherd
My Birds no more.
Mook
Hey, get well on that. Reds defeated the Cubs and say three two in a close one. And the Rangers took care of the Yankees yesterday, eight to five. Yankees on a five game losing Yankees.
Colin Cowherd
Yankees slide.
Mook
That's the second time. But Josh Young with a walk off home run. Went crazy.
Colin Cowherd
Y' all. Tell him.
Mook
Y' all came backlin fatigue. Get real disrespectful. Get real disrespectful. Walk off home run.
Colin Cowherd
Just do it. You think? Yeah. Don't throw the B like that on me.
Mook
Wait, I thought you was a fan of the back foot.
Colin Cowherd
It is, but I'm just saying, if I'm the. If I'm the pitcher, I'm offended. Throw a better pitch. Like, if he do this. Watch it. Like, you know.
Mook
He just said disrespectful. We out of here, bro.
DJ Wells
I with that. That's swaggy.
Mook
I just beat the Yankees on a walk off home run.
Colin Cowherd
I broke my back.
DJ Wells
That's fire.
Colin Cowherd
Had to get a fine.
Mook
Yeah, we out of here, baby.
Colin Cowherd
You.
Mook
Hey, if you trip somebody running the base, they're going suspend you for.
Colin Cowherd
Yeah, they all start fighting.
Mook
Oh, man. The Blue Jays beat the limit sleeves off The Rockies yesterday, 15 to 1.
Colin Cowherd
Rockies back down to death, man.
Mook
Yeah, man. And they still not going to ass for sure. Angels took care of the race yesterday, five to one. My Diamondbacks took care of business yesterday against the Padres, 6 to 2. And last I'm certain, not least, man, the Cardinals and the Dodgers and the close one, three to two.
Colin Cowherd
It's like every team in baseball play every. Every day.
Mook
Yeah, bro.
Colin Cowherd
Like, golly, did anybody get a break?
Mook
Nah, bro.
Colin Cowherd
Nah.
Mook
So they get paid. They get paid hands, bro.
Colin Cowherd
Give me 200. 300 million.
Mook
Yeah, bro. Y', all. They play 200 games, bro. Shout out to the MLB for sure. All right. WNBA games tonight. We got the Wings at Liberty. I'm expecting Liberty to get that one. But we shall see the mystics at the sky. The sky ain't trying to win right now. Injuries is still out, so probably the mystery Fever and Sparks. What's up? What's up, man?
Colin Cowherd
Sports fan no more.
Mook
I forgot that he's a fever, bro.
DJ Wells
Yeah, I'm rolling with my fever, but them records is crazy, bro.
Mook
1712. The Sparks roster should be way better than what they had. But I'm gonna go over the fever. Sun and Mercury. I'm definitely going with the Mercury. US owns the connected Sun 5 and 23.
Colin Cowherd
There go my team. The links, baby.
Mook
Links in the storm. Who you rolling with?
Colin Cowherd
Okay, that's my team.
Mook
They just got Johnny Carrington too. They rolling up, you know what I'm saying? For a championship. I don't know about AV Fe. Hopefully she's well. You know, she got injured this past weekend. Prayers up for her. We got one more question before we get out of here. All right, man. Justin Boulevard says, love the pod. Teague, you being amazing mentor ever considering coaching in the league. Also, let's be real, Melo was a beast, but his career was overhyped. Way greater than Melo.
Colin Cowherd
That's a good. That's a take by you, brother. Yes, sir. I like D. Wade and I like Melo. Both of them, man. Both icons, both living legends. Yeah, yeah.
Mook
I won't say mellow careers over hype. That's from Mellow Anthony.
Colin Cowherd
Yeah, I don't know what the hype was about, but. All right.
Mook
Not for sure. All right, man. One more time for Boost Mobile. Boost Mobile, you know the vibes. 25 unlimited nationwide tap in boost mobile. Tell them Club 520 sent you. Shout out to the twitch man. Mac, you on the games this week? What's up man? Madden about to come out.
Colin Cowherd
You ready? I'm locked in.
Mook
Okay.
Colin Cowherd
You got faith in it? No.
Mook
Okay, get what's on the mouth, man. Listen, we appreciate y'. All. We'll be back tomorrow. 5:20 in the morning.
Colin Cowherd
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Club 520 Podcast - Episode 520 in the Morning Summary
Release Date: August 5, 2025
Hosts:
In this dynamic episode of the Club 520 Podcast, NBA All-Star Jeff Teague teams up with his buddies DJ Wells and Bishop B Henn to dissect two major topics shaking up the basketball world:
The trio engages in lively discussions, offering their unique perspectives, backed by personal anecdotes and expert analysis, ensuring both insightful and entertaining content for listeners.
Timestamp: [07:55] - [10:33]
The episode kicks off with a deep dive into De'Aaron Fox's recent four-year, $229 million contract with the San Antonio Spurs. The hosts explore the multifaceted reactions surrounding this deal, weighing the Spurs' investment against Fox's potential impact on the team.
Mook ([07:55]):
"A lot of people are feeling like Spurs kind of overpaid, but he deserved it."
DJ Wells ([08:11]):
"Who else are they going to play?"
Key Discussion Points:
Quote Highlight:
Timestamp: [55:13] - [58:14]
Transitioning from contract negotiations to player roles, the hosts delve into John Wall's commentary on the shifting responsibilities of NBA point guards. Wall underscores the necessity for modern PGs to be proficient scorers in addition to their traditional playmaking duties.
Mook ([55:13]):
"If you can get 20 and 10, you make your team that much better."
Colin Cowherd ([56:43]):
"Point guards now have to double as primary scoring options."
Key Discussion Points:
Quote Highlight:
Timestamp: [10:02] - [15:34]
The conversation shifts to the Spurs' strategic adjustments in their lineup post-Fox's acquisition. The hosts debate potential starting configurations, the role of veterans like Harrison Barnes, and the depth of the Spurs' bench.
DJ Wells ([10:02]):
"Do you think they start Castillo?"
Mook ([10:25]):
"Probably start Castillo and have Fox as the primary facilitator."
Key Discussion Points:
Quote Highlight:
Timestamp: [35:04] - [53:34]
A spirited debate unfolds as the hosts compare the legacies of Carl Malone and Charles Barkley, two iconic figures in NBA history. They weigh Malone's consistent performance and MVP accolades against Barkley's charismatic play and influence on the game.
Mook ([51:26]):
"Melo was a beast, but had two rings. Chuck had his own issues."
DJ Wells ([51:31]):
"I'm taking Carl."
Key Discussion Points:
Quote Highlight:
Timestamp: [41:01] - [43:09]
Jeff Teague shares his insights on player development, emphasizing the critical role of film study and physical training. The discussion highlights how these practices are essential for nurturing talent and enhancing player performance.
Jeff Teague ([41:01]):
"What I didn't do when I played, I always watch film. It's essential for understanding the game."
Mook ([43:03]):
"He could probably like, hey, this is what you need to do."
Key Discussion Points:
Quote Highlight:
Timestamp: [37:30] - [74:57]
Throughout the episode, the hosts engage with listeners through Super Chats, addressing questions and comments that range from personal basketball experiences to broader NBA topics. This interactive segment adds a relatable and community-driven aspect to the podcast.
DJ Wells ([37:30]):
"I'm taking Ant."
Mook ([44:15]):
"I bought his truck. That was a championship deal."
Key Discussion Points:
Quote Highlight:
Timestamp: [78:53] - [90:05]
As the episode wraps up, the hosts reflect on the discussions, reiterating the significance of strategic player acquisitions and the evolving roles within the NBA. They emphasize the importance of adaptability, teamwork, and continuous learning in achieving success both on and off the court.
Colin Cowherd ([83:10]):
"They don't get to crack it anymore."
Mook ([89:29]):
"But you still got... people still know what you do."
Key Takeaways:
Mook ([07:55]):
"Some people feel like the Spurs overpaid, but honestly, Fox's performance justifies the investment."
DJ Wells ([08:11]):
"He deserves that money. Who else on the roster could they afford to pay that way?"
Jeff Teague ([41:01]):
"What I didn't do when I played, I always watch film. It's essential for understanding the game."
Mook ([55:13]):
"If you can get 20 and 10, you make your team that much better."
Mook ([51:26]):
"Melo was a beast, but had two rings. Chuck had his own issues."
Episode 520 of the Club 520 Podcast offers a comprehensive and engaging analysis of pivotal NBA developments, blending expert opinions with interactive discussions. Whether you're a seasoned basketball enthusiast or a casual fan, this episode provides valuable insights into player dynamics, team strategies, and the ever-evolving nature of the game.
Tune in weekly to catch more entertaining and informative conversations hosted by Jeff Teague, DJ Wells, and Bishop B Henn. Don't forget to like, share, and subscribe to stay updated with the latest episodes!
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