BEST OF 520: Dwight Howard on MVP battle with D-Rose + Jeff Teague on KD's next team, Pacers-Thunder - Club 520 Podcast

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Club 520 Podcast: BEST OF 520 - Dwight Howard on MVP Battle with D-Rose & Jeff Teague on KD’s Next Team, Pacers-Thunder

Release Date: June 7, 2025
Hosts: Jeff Teague (@jeffteague), DJ Wells (@thatsanopiniondj), and Bishop B Henn (@outthepearlys)

In this highly anticipated episode of the Club 520 Podcast, NBA All-Star Jeff Teague leads an engaging discussion with fellow hosts DJ Wells and Bishop B Henn. The episode, "BEST OF 520: Dwight Howard on MVP Battle with D-Rose + Jeff Teague on KD’s Next Team, Pacers-Thunder," delves deep into the current NBA landscape, focusing on the intense MVP race and the intriguing possibilities surrounding Kevin Durant’s future.

MVP Battle Insights with Dwight Howard

[03:30] – Dwight Howard on MVP Snubs and Comparisons

The conversation kicks off with Dwight Howard sharing his candid thoughts on the ongoing MVP race, particularly highlighting Derrick Rose's triumph over himself in previous seasons. Dwight reflects on his own MVP candidacy, expressing both pride and frustration over not securing the award despite his significant contributions on the court.

Dwight Howard [03:30]: "I thought that was my year, bro. I mean, obviously, I ain't gonna never hate on D. Rose. Cause that's my dog. He's been with Adidas. But I was like, dang. I thought that was my year."

Dwight doesn't stop at Rose, extending his analysis to other NBA legends like LeBron James and Kobe Bryant, comparing their playing styles and contributions to the game. He emphasizes the difficulty of being recognized consistently amidst such towering talents.

Historical Competitiveness and MVP Snubs

The discussion seamlessly transitions into historical NBA competitiveness, with Dwight recalling the dominance of teams like the Orlando Magic and the Detroit Pistons. He underscores how these teams shaped his approach to the game, particularly in becoming more aggressive and physically dominant in the paint.

Dwight Howard [05:02]: "We got boogie played. Boogie came and played in it. Quinn Cook came and played. We got a guy, 7 foot 7, that was playing in the league for a couple years now..."

Jeff Teague and DJ Wells interject with anecdotes from their playing days, reminiscing about intense matchups and the relentless training that defined their careers. This nostalgia sets the stage for a broader conversation about the evolution of the NBA and the changing dynamics of player performances and recognition.

Current MVP Race: Jokic vs. Shay Gilgeous-Alexander

[19:45] – Analyzing the Current Contenders

The hosts shift focus to the present, dissecting the battle between Nikola Jokić and Shai Gilgeous-Alexander for the current MVP title. Dwight advocates strongly for Shai, believing that his impact on the court warrants the award over Jokić's stellar performances.

Dwight Howard [22:37]: "He got to [win MVP]."

Jeff Teague supports this viewpoint, arguing that despite Jokić's impressive statistics, Shai's leadership and consistent gameplay make him a more deserving candidate. The conversation highlights the subjective nature of MVP voting, where team success and individual brilliance often intertwine.

Kevin Durant’s Future: Trade Scenarios and Team Dynamics

[55:20] – Jeff Teague on KD’s Next Move

Switching gears, Jeff Teague takes center stage to discuss the hot topic of Kevin Durant’s potential next team. The speculation centers around exciting trade scenarios, notably a move to the New York Knicks or the San Antonio Spurs. The hosts debate the strategic fit of Durant with these franchises, considering factors like team chemistry, player complementarity, and championship aspirations.

Jeff Teague [57:02]: "KD and Wimby just sounds insane. With Dee Dee and Fox. I would love to see that."

Dwight chimes in, envisioning Durant alongside young phenoms like Wembanyama, enhancing the Knicks’ roster with a formidable combination of experience and potential.

Dwight Howard [58:45]: "I love this... KD and Wimby would just be fucking ridiculous."

The discussion also touches on the implications for the Indiana Pacers and Oklahoma City Thunder, analyzing how Durant's presence would alter the competitive balance and playoff prospects for these teams.

NBA All-Star Game and League Evolution

[71:01] – Thoughts on the All-Star Game Format

Towards the end of the episode, the conversation veers into the recent announcement by NBA Commissioner Adam Silver regarding a new All-Star Game format: World vs. USA. The hosts express mixed feelings, debating whether this new format will revive interest or dilute the competitive spirit traditionally associated with the All-Star festivities.

Jeff Teague [73:10]: "I don't want it to turn into the... with the NFL Pro Bowl used to be lit when we was kids, bro. Now it's like you don't even think about it."

Dwight raises concerns about the commitment levels of global players in such exhibition games, fearing that the lack of seriousness might undermine the prestige of the MVP award and the overall competitiveness of the league.

Engaging with Fans: Watch Parties and Live Streams

[65:10] – Planning Finals Watch Parties

In a lively segment, the hosts brainstorm ideas for engaging with their fanbase during the NBA Finals. They discuss organizing watch parties, leveraging live streaming platforms, and creating interactive experiences to enhance fan participation. The energy is palpable as they plan logistics, address potential challenges, and envision the perfect game-day atmosphere.

DJ Wells [65:10]: "Watcher party Sunday at Jeff's house."

This segment not only showcases their camaraderie but also highlights their commitment to fostering a strong community around the podcast.

Conclusion and Final Thoughts

As the episode wraps up, Jeff Teague reflects on the importance of adaptability and resilience in both personal careers and the evolving nature of the NBA. The hosts emphasize the need to balance ambition with foundational support, particularly for young athletes navigating the pressures of early success and public scrutiny.

DJ Wells [51:07]: "Eventually the rubber gonna meet the road and your shit, your dream gonna be shot like it's gonna be over."

The episode concludes with a heartfelt endorsement of teamwork, dedication, and the enduring spirit that defines the game of basketball.

Notable Quotes:

Dwight Howard [03:30]: "I thought that was my year, bro. I mean, obviously, I ain't gonna never hate on D. Rose."
Jeff Teague [57:02]: "KD and Wimby just sounds insane. With Dee Dee and Fox."
DJ Wells [65:10]: "Watcher party Sunday at Jeff's house."
Dwight Howard [22:37]: "He got to [win MVP]."

Final Thoughts:

This episode of the Club 520 Podcast offers a rich tapestry of NBA insights, blending historical perspectives with contemporary analysis. Dwight Howard's candid reflections on MVP candidacy and his strategic thoughts on Durant's future provide listeners with a deep dive into the intricacies of basketball excellence. Meanwhile, Jeff Teague's enthusiasm for team dynamics and fan engagement initiatives underscores the vibrant community spirit that defines the podcast. Whether you're an avid NBA follower or a casual fan, this episode delivers nuanced discussions, memorable quotes, and a passion for the game that resonates with all.

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[03:30]
Tom Brokaw
You talked about this recently regarding, like, the Giannis situation. You say the grass might always be greener. I love to have that conversation with you here because I know T talked about that, his old teammate, you know, the landscape of the NBA. You know, people always talk about moving around and stuff, but some of these stars is like, you might as well just be where you at and just make it your own.
[03:48]
Dwight Howard
Yeah, man, one of the craziest things I think I did was just leaving Orlando, not knowing what I had until it was really gone and not seeing, like, when you go somewhere else, you really in somebody else shit, and you think you can come over there and take it, but nah, it ain't like that. So, you know, being in Orlando, I ain't realized I'm young as hell, man. 22 in the finals, you know what I'm saying? 22, one of the best players already. MVP and all that stuff talk. And I ain't know what I was doing down there, you know what I'm saying? So I just tell Giannis, man, you are Milwaukee. Where's you going? You know what I'm saying? It ain't gonna. Ain't nothing else gonna hit right after that, you know what I'm saying? So I just think his best bet is to just stay put. I mean, they add pieces around him, you know what I'm saying? So it ain't the other way around. Like, he don't need to go nowhere else and try to figure it out. They gonna bring whatever he. And he already won. Yeah, he already won. What else do you gotta do? He gonna get his statue. If he stay, he gonna Get a statue. The nasus will get a statue if he stays. Right now, the nastas are for a coaching job.
[05:03]
Unknown Host
Swear to God.
[05:04]
Dwight Howard
For real, he need to stay, man. Like, I understand wanting to leave and playing with these guys and chasing the ring, but for real, like, that's the one thing I don't like, and I wish I didn't do it, was chase after a ring. You know what I'm saying? Going to teams, trying to, you know, figure it out. So I would say, you gotta stay home, stay put.
[05:24]
Unknown Host
Nah. Cause when you was in Orlando, I tell everybody you was the most dominant player, and it was like you was joking with people. Like, we had four. We had four or five bigs. We had five. We had all these old Thomas, Josh Powell, Jason Collins.
[05:39]
Dwight Howard
Jason Collins. One of the grants with the loan.
[05:42]
Unknown Host
Yeah, yeah, we had a bunch of people. We had Al Horbatron, Zaza, Zaza, Patuya. Yeah, we had a whole squad to stop you. In my rookie year, y' all beat us by, like, 40 year game. But our second year, I used to say every game y' all did in the playoffs, y' all beat us by.
[05:57]
Dwight Howard
Like, 40 with Gilbert, right?
[05:59]
Unknown Host
Nah, we beat y' all with Gil. Yeah, but y' all first year, I think y' all had heedo. Oh, y' all did. Yeah, we had, like, the biggest margin of victory and, like, NBA history against y' all. Y' all, like, Woody was the coach. We was getting our ass beat. Then the next year, we played y' all, and we was like, we gonna let Dwight score 50 in the first game. You had, like, 36 in the first quarter, like, in the first half. And I'm like, hey, man, this nigga might really score 50, y' all. They like, nah, it's cool. It's cool. We gotta eliminate the threes. But I was just telling people how dominant you were. Like, it was crazy. You couldn't get a layup. Like, I used to shoot floaters at the top of the rack board. And he'll be just laughing like, don't come back here. Don't go.
[06:37]
Dwight Howard
Let him go.
[06:38]
Unknown Host
Let him go.
[06:38]
Tom Brokaw
Hey, let him go.
[06:39]
Unknown Host
I'm like, man, what the fuck? Jameer Nim just let you go to the basket. He'll block it.
[06:44]
Tom Brokaw
He was a cheat code.
[06:45]
Dwight Howard
It was fun as hell, man. And I think people took me laughing and joking as not taking the game serious. But I practiced so hard. I worked so hard out outside of the games before the game started, that by the time we got playing, I'm like, man, this is Fun. Going out there, dominating, dunking, blocking shots, doing all that I'm doing. This is fun. Cause I done put in all the hard work. So now it's really a show. That's how I'm taking it. Like, man, I'm finna put on a show. We got all these fans, they ain't never seen me play live. I'm finna go crazy. I'm finna block a shot, smile, talk some trash to the. You know, I didn't mean no harm by it. It's just. I just had so much passion about playing.
[07:27]
Unknown Host
Nah, you was dominant, bro. I' ma always give you your flyers on that. That shit was crazy. I think Gilbert had brought it up on the pod when they played Atlanta, his stats was like crazy.
[07:37]
Dwight Howard
Like 40.
[07:38]
Tom Brokaw
Like 40.
[07:39]
Dwight Howard
Oh, we played against Atlanta? Yeah, 35.
[07:41]
Unknown Host
Whatever. Oh, yeah. It's like he had something against us. That's what I was about to ask.
[07:44]
Tom Brokaw
Being from Atlanta, what was it?
[07:46]
Dwight Howard
I did one. I was mad cause I wanted to play in Atlanta, you know what I'm saying? So I was like, man, they ain't even. I'm from Atlanta. They could have drafted me. But then it was just like I wanted to beat the Hawks. Cause every game I saw somebody that I knew from growing up talking trash and they cheering for the Hawks. I was like, man, I gotta. And the Hawks, like had like five bigs too. I wanted to destroy every single big. Like that was my whole mission.
[08:13]
Clayton English
Yeah, they didn't have no chance.
[08:15]
Unknown Host
Nah, they didn't have no chance.
[08:16]
Dwight Howard
So that was y' all whole game plan to let me score?
[08:18]
Unknown Host
Yeah. That second time we played, we beat y' all. My second year. The first year, y' all blew us out. But my second year, they was like, let Dwight kill and you was killing shit. But nobody else was really scoring like that. Cause we was just staying at home and you was just playing one on one. It was killing. Well, I don't know. We figured it out. Jamal had a big series.
[08:35]
Dwight Howard
Smart ass game plan.
[08:37]
Unknown Host
Yeah, that's what it was.
[08:38]
Clayton English
For real.
[08:39]
Dwight Howard
Cause I'm like, man, I could keep cooking, but then my teammates wasn't as involved as the year before. Yeah, that wasn't good.
[08:48]
Unknown Host
When you played with Atlanta, you wasn't on that team. Nope. I left the Yuri camp, man.
[08:53]
Dwight Howard
Yeah, that would have been fire.
[08:55]
Unknown Host
Yeah.
[08:56]
Clayton English
What did you hit the weight room. When you got to the league? What kind of. Was you home?
[09:01]
Dwight Howard
I did. I was skinny.
[09:02]
Clayton English
I couldn't.
[09:03]
Dwight Howard
I tried to lift weights before I got to the league. My regiment before I got to the league was I was waking up. It's every day in high school, I was waking up, 4am, going to the track, then the weight room, then the gym. But I couldn't gain no weight. None of that stuff happened. Then when I got to the league, I started doing Olympic lifting with our trainer in Orlando. And I would say after the first year is what hit me, I started playing against the guys that was big and strong. And I was like, man, I'm not gonna get pushed around no more. So I just started lifting and eating weights. Then I got too big.
[09:42]
Clayton English
I got too high.
[09:44]
Dwight Howard
Yeah, I went and got a weight room at my house. Every day I'm doing the bench press. I'm trying to get my bench right. I'm like, man, I got to get close to 500 in the bench.
[09:55]
Tom Brokaw
Trying to get my bench right.
[09:56]
Dwight Howard
Nigga, you bitching.
[09:56]
Unknown Host
500.
[09:57]
Dwight Howard
I'm trying to get the 500. Yeah.
[09:59]
Unknown Host
I'm like, man.
[10:03]
Dwight Howard
Yeah, the bench press. And we was trying to Was doing thousand push ups every day.
[10:08]
Clayton English
Nigga, no wonder then. Cause I'm like, they shot the white with that strongest. He was like 220 or something. In high school.
[10:16]
Dwight Howard
In high school, I was 185. Then I got up to 220, 224. And then when I got to the league, they got me all the way up to 265, 270.
[10:27]
Unknown Host
That's crazy.
[10:28]
Clayton English
That's crazy.
[10:28]
Tom Brokaw
That's big, though, and that's crazy. Cause, like, they always compare, like you and Yan said, situations like when y' all first came into the league and did like a couple years.
[10:34]
Dwight Howard
I can see that.
[10:35]
Tom Brokaw
Yeah, y' all became fucking. I could see that.
[10:38]
Dwight Howard
I could see that. I think that he was. He is a like Dwight Howard with that could play with handles and, you know, being able to go full court and all that stuff. In my era, they weren't allowing the bigs to do that. And he had just came in at the right time where he could play one on one as a five, full court, bring the ball down. I remember playing in Orlando, the coach was telling every time I dribbled the ball, he. He'll tell them to come take it, don't dribble. So that's the only thing I could do is the jump hooks and dunk the ball.
[11:15]
Tom Brokaw
That's crazy. And the Atlanta team, we always give y' all credit and y' all flowers because y' all were early. Y' all set the trend like that, Especially in this era.
[11:24]
Dwight Howard
Y' all Would have dominated with the threes. Keep the floor space with the threes.
[11:29]
Tom Brokaw
Come on, man. He do Tucker Blue as the de facto point guard at 6 9.
[11:32]
Unknown Host
Ryan Anderson.
[11:33]
Dwight Howard
Ryan Anderson shooting threes. Crazy. Nobody talk about how Jameer played, man. But Jameer was cold. Star was cold, man. The way he shot the ball, it was underrated. I don't think people really talked about him. I think after he hurt his shoulder that year. But then having the two OG point guards, Skip Tamalu and Anthony Johnson. AJ yeah, he taught him no neck.
[12:05]
Clayton English
That's crazy.
[12:07]
Dwight Howard
Anthony no Neck Johnson. That was my dog. He was one of my favorite point guards. And every time in a game when he got in trouble, he'd just be like Dwight and throw the ball up for a lob. I'd be like, dog, just anytime you get in trouble, just throw that bitch.
[12:20]
Unknown Host
Up to the rim.
[12:21]
Dwight Howard
I go get it.
[12:22]
Tom Brokaw
That's a hell of a. Don't worry about that team too. Like you said, Jamer Nelson was doing his thing for sure. Skip to my little hooping, like he just hooped like it was N1. Like he didn't care.
[12:31]
Clayton English
How was that playing with him, bro?
[12:33]
Dwight Howard
Man, that was so much fun. He was one of my all time favorite favorites because I used to watch, I grew up watching. And one.
[12:38]
Tom Brokaw
Yeah, yeah.
[12:39]
Dwight Howard
So like seeing him on and one and then actually being on his team, I'm like, yo, this is sick, yo. Like this is really skipped to my loop.
[12:47]
Clayton English
Nah facts.
[12:48]
Dwight Howard
He was one of the coldest, man, but he though was one of my craziest teammates. It was cold and coldest. 6, 10 can shoot anywhere on the floor. Post up, you got handles. I think the NBA back then was such a. Like, I can't, I don't wanna hate on the guys now that's playing. But I feel like we was our era. Like that era was really nice.
[13:12]
Unknown Host
It was a good time. I mean, I think it was a lot of cold people. And I think like the best players to hoop was in that era. Like all of y' all are like hall of Famers.
[13:21]
Dwight Howard
Just think about the names of the era. You talk about the Dirt and the whiskeys, the kgs, the Tim Duncan. You got Omari Stoudemire, you got LeBron, you got all Melo. The era that we had in like.
[13:35]
Unknown Host
That was like, say it was all like hall of Famers.
[13:38]
Dwight Howard
It was probably one of the coldest eras of basket and the basketball back then was so hard because now the floor is spaced out so you getting all these points. But back then Everybody boxes at elbows. It's hard to score. It's hard to get 20 points a game in that league. But then only 10 people. It was only 10 people scoring 20 points. So you see how cold the league was back then.
[14:00]
Tom Brokaw
Yeah. Yeah. You talking about the spacing? There was no spacing. They had traditional power forwards and traditional fives.
[14:05]
Dwight Howard
Yes.
[14:05]
Tom Brokaw
And they wasn't shooting threes.
[14:07]
Unknown Host
None until they got them. When they start putting Rashad Lewis and Ryan Anderson out there.
[14:11]
Dwight Howard
Rashad Lewis was one of the first ones. I think it was Rashad. Rasheed Lewis, too. Cause we kind of got that from the Pistons. See, Detroit beat us two years in a row in the playoffs when I first got into the league. Rasheed Lewis. Rasheed Wallace. Rasheed Wallace. That's what I meant to say. Rasheed Wall. Walls.
[14:29]
Unknown Host
Yeah.
[14:31]
Dwight Howard
I said Ra.
[14:36]
Unknown Host
Just talking me out.
[14:38]
Dwight Howard
But no, Rasheed Wallace. I would say, how Rasheed Wallace and Ben Wallace. And then the guys they had on they team, they kind of gave us the blueprint of what we needed to do to be successful. Like, I need to change my mentality to be a beast in the paint. So watching and playing against guys like Ben Wallace, Jason McZeel, Rasheed Wallace, Antonio Mendice. This is all on the Pistons team. So that team right there, the league can blame them for me wanting to get in the weight room and wanting to, like, go after people. Because for two years straight, they bullied us, man. Damn. They bullied us. And we couldn't beat them in the playoffs our regular season.
[15:22]
Unknown Host
Damn.
[15:24]
Clayton English
Nah, that was crazy.
[15:25]
Tom Brokaw
Shout out to that Pistons team. Jason Maxill and Ben Wallace. That's a crazy front court.
[15:29]
Dwight Howard
I'm saying, people forgetting about Rasheed Wallace.
[15:31]
Unknown Host
Yo, people wonder how strong Antonio McDyess was.
[15:34]
Tom Brokaw
I think I'm strong as shit. And he had the Nuggets. Was getting buckets.
[15:38]
Clayton English
He was cold.
[15:39]
Dwight Howard
He was cold.
[15:40]
Clayton English
But Jason Maxill was. What's he like? Six. Six.
[15:42]
Dwight Howard
Jason Maxill, six. Three. With a. With a eight foot three.
[15:46]
Unknown Host
Yeah.
[15:47]
Dwight Howard
Long as head long ass Ar dog looking like a Ninja Turtle.
[15:53]
Tom Brokaw
For the youngest who don't know y' all talking about. What's my name? Isaiah up in Detroit. Nah, Jason Max was original Jason.
[16:00]
Dwight Howard
Ma. Y' all see that video of him chasing the dude in China?
[16:04]
Unknown Host
China, bro. He was trying to kill that boy.
[16:06]
Dwight Howard
He would have killed that man.
[16:08]
Tom Brokaw
Kill. Hey, that overseas basketball get different? For sure, man.
[16:13]
Unknown Host
Yo.
[16:14]
Dwight Howard
Oh, God.
[16:15]
Tom Brokaw
Man.
[16:15]
Dwight Howard
It was sometimes over there I wanted to scrap.
[16:18]
Tom Brokaw
Tell you why you cannot find. They would have canceled your visa.
[16:22]
Unknown Host
Threw a guy over there. Me Remember the guy that you threw? No, I'm.
[16:28]
Dwight Howard
He just talking shit.
[16:29]
Clayton English
Yeah, we gonna pass.
[16:32]
Tom Brokaw
They gonna be in comments, be like, yeah, this one right here.
[16:34]
Clayton English
Yeah, TikTok gonna find y' all.
[16:39]
Dwight Howard
But in China, we did get into Taiwan. We got into a. My team got into a fight. I got kicked out the game. I didn't even fight. I was on the bench. That was the one time I actually did do nothing to deserve a tech. So it was pretty intense.
[16:55]
Unknown Host
We gotta get you overseas, man.
[16:58]
Tom Brokaw
Yeah, it's probably over for me.
[16:59]
Unknown Host
10 days. 10 days. I could do 10 days. How about I say T a T?
[17:04]
Dwight Howard
Yeah, 10 days, man.
[17:05]
Unknown Host
I could do 10 days.
[17:06]
Dwight Howard
I started a league over in. In Asia a couple years ago after my first year in Taiwan. And reason being is a lot of guys who've played in the NBA or tried to make it to the NBA once, they don't make it or something like that, they usually tend to just be like, fuck it, you know what I'm saying? Go down the rabbit hole of why they ain't played or whatever. And I really wanted to give a lot of guys opportunities to hoop across the water. The international game, the international love, international money, it's all out there. And I feel like sometimes, you know, we just put ourselves in a box. If we don't make it here, then that's the end all be all. So we started league three years ago, and it's been booming, man. We got boogie played. Boogie came and played in it. Quinn Cook came and played. We got a guy, 7 foot 7, that was playing in the league for a couple years now, but we got about eight, nine teams. The league is.
[18:08]
Clayton English
Where your boy at? From Boston. That was on the pod big time. Nick came where Taco Fall.
[18:16]
Dwight Howard
He was about to come actually. He was about to come actually and play over there. He went to mainland China and played, but.
[18:24]
Tom Brokaw
Shout out to Taco.
[18:25]
Dwight Howard
Shout out to Taco man. I remember watching him at ucf, and UCF stand for you can't finish. He was at the right school. He could not finish in the paint. I'm like, bro, you seven foot?
[18:36]
Tom Brokaw
Yeah, bro.
[18:37]
Unknown Host
He ain't got a taco fried on this bitch. They supposed to be Duke.
[18:41]
Tom Brokaw
They got cheated.
[18:41]
Unknown Host
They did get cheated.
[18:42]
Dwight Howard
I love Taco man. For real. Just to see his real progress. Like, he came into the league, he was not that skilled as he is now. He got so much better. And he dunk. I know he's 7 foot 5 6, but he dunking on niggas like he ain't playing. Around. So shout out to Taco man.
[19:00]
Tom Brokaw
It's always funny, like, you see, like, NBA players outside of the NBA. Cause we always talk about, like, the Mitchell Robinson highlights. Talking about him not hitting free throws, but he pulling up for transition threes in the summer. Taco Fox got a crazy summer mixtape. He out there putting pats on N and shit.
[19:13]
Unknown Host
I said, damn, I gotta check this shit out.
[19:17]
Dwight Howard
It's different. I think it's different in the league. Sometimes you get. They give you a role or, like, man, you playing against really the best of the best. Like, so defense gonna be on point. Guys is gonna be really ready to lock you down, whatever it may be when you go overseas or something like that. You get the green light. You trying anything, you gonna look like Mitchell Robinson, he got the green light when he out there playing in the park or whatever it's at. So shoot, I do the same thing, for sure.
[19:45]
Clayton English
At what point in your career did you, like, figure out, like, you was the one in the NBA? Like, when did you feel like, all right, I can start taking over and leading my team?
[19:55]
Dwight Howard
I would say my damn third year. Third, fourth year. Then we went to the finals. And then I would say going to the Olympics, too, man, there's so many different situations. Playing the Olympic team, starting on Olympic team. That's when I'm like, man, I'm one of these guys. I'm here with Kobe, Bron, Jason, Kidd, Melo. You know, I'm starting with these guys. And the league was just so crazy back then. Just to be mentioned with Kobe and.
[20:26]
Clayton English
Bron, you know, that's in the MVP talks.
[20:30]
Unknown Host
Yeah, he ruined the commercial. They folks had that finals.
[20:34]
Tom Brokaw
Come on. I know Adidas loved you for that, boy.
[20:36]
Unknown Host
You fucked up a whole Nike.
[20:38]
Dwight Howard
Oh, you talk about the.
[20:39]
Unknown Host
They had the puppets and Shimon.
[20:40]
Dwight Howard
I made my own puppet. Hell, I still got him at the crib.
[20:44]
Unknown Host
Since you brought up mvp, I know that Derrick Rose.
[20:48]
Dwight Howard
What? You said he was number two that year. Derrick Rose got it.
[20:54]
Unknown Host
So everybody in the comments like, man, you wasn't getting that shit over D. Rose. What y' all think? Nah, you wanna get in that show with D. Rose.
[21:01]
Dwight Howard
All hell to Dwight, what happened that year. Why he should have got it, bro.
[21:07]
Unknown Host
He had that Bulls team rocking, bro. He was number one. And you had to guard. You had to guard the ring. Yeah, he fucked up.
[21:12]
Dwight Howard
They had a whole. They had Boozer.
[21:15]
Clayton English
They had a good team.
[21:16]
Dwight Howard
They had a good squad. It wasn't just you did too.
[21:18]
Unknown Host
Nah, it was just him.
[21:20]
Dwight Howard
It was not him.
[21:21]
Unknown Host
Lou Aldean when he got hurt. Boozer, they good. They good players. But it was all cause of Pooh, though. Like, Pooh made the engine like he was the engine. If they ain't had him, bro, it wasn't even hard.
[21:32]
Tom Brokaw
And he had the city cracking. I think that goes to the effect, too. His effect of being at the crib and pulling the Bulls back up like that.
[21:38]
Unknown Host
Yeah. After Mike.
[21:39]
Dwight Howard
Same thing with the Magic. We did the same.
[21:42]
Unknown Host
Said, you did this already.
[21:43]
Clayton English
You did. You did your. You did your big one, bro. But that. That.
[21:47]
Unknown Host
That was crazy, bro.
[21:49]
Dwight Howard
In Chicago.
[21:50]
Clayton English
Yeah, it's just a better market. He was just exciting. He was a small guard, bro. And they like, bro said, bro, they was number one bro in the league. They was.
[22:02]
Unknown Host
That's good that y' all said that. So Shay or Jokic this year?
[22:06]
Tom Brokaw
This year it's gotta be Shay.
[22:07]
Clayton English
You asked them.
[22:08]
Unknown Host
Yeah, Shay's gonna win. Jokic is the mvp. Jokic having.
[22:14]
Tom Brokaw
But last year, they told Shay that he has to do more and he should. Got MVP last year. Best record in the league. He has to get it. We know the Joker's the best player in the league. Nobody gonna argue that. Yeah, but this is sga.
[22:26]
Unknown Host
First big to average a triple double, though. That, bro, he's one of the codas.
[22:30]
Tom Brokaw
He's one of the best centers of all time, there's no question. But SJ gotta get the mvp, bro. They out of pocket.
[22:36]
Unknown Host
He gonna win mvp.
[22:37]
Dwight Howard
He got to.
[22:38]
Unknown Host
But D. Rose that year, bro, like, people had to link up to beat him.
[22:44]
Dwight Howard
Yeah, they were beating the Magic, who they made to.
[22:50]
Unknown Host
These are conference finals. When they got hurt, when he got hurt, though, they still was number one. Like the next year, I think. Nah, Hell no.
[22:57]
Dwight Howard
I think that that's when Jimmy Butler had.
[22:59]
Clayton English
He probably with Jordan, left the Bulls.
[23:01]
Unknown Host
Yeah. They weren't number one in the east, though. They were still a top team. I mean. Cause Nate Robinson and them was hooping that year and shit. But it wasn't the same, bro.
[23:11]
Clayton English
I mean, take you off that Orlando Magic team.
[23:14]
Unknown Host
They ass, too. Not ass, but they would.
[23:17]
Dwight Howard
Hey, my team was cold, man.
[23:18]
Unknown Host
If you don't play, though.
[23:20]
Clayton English
If you don't play, Dust.
[23:21]
Unknown Host
Who was y' all backup center? Gordon? Marcine Gorez.
[23:24]
Dwight Howard
He was a great backup. Shout out to Marcine, man.
[23:27]
Unknown Host
Yeah, he was good.
[23:27]
Tom Brokaw
Emmy. John Wall was shit up for a minute. They had a crazy pick around, man.
[23:30]
Dwight Howard
That little. What they call that pick and roll.
[23:32]
Unknown Host
The Gore Tez screen.
[23:33]
Dwight Howard
He got his own screen name.
[23:35]
Tom Brokaw
That's.
[23:35]
Dwight Howard
That's cold now.
[23:36]
Clayton English
Yeah.
[23:36]
Dwight Howard
To be in the league and have a. Or whatever name after you, that's pretty tough.
[23:41]
Tom Brokaw
Yeah. He was clothesline n on the screen.
[23:43]
Unknown Host
You think you should have got the MVP over D. Rose?
[23:46]
Dwight Howard
I'm gonna be. Yeah. I mean, I can't say that. I thought that was my year. I thought that was my year. I mean, obviously, you know, I ain't gonna never hate on D. Rose. Cause that's my dog. He's been with Adidas. You know, that's when we first started, you know, kicking a little bit.
[24:02]
Clayton English
Yeah.
[24:03]
Dwight Howard
But I was like, dang. I thought that was my year, bro.
[24:08]
Unknown Host
I thought that was our year.
[24:09]
Tom Brokaw
You know what's crazy? I think. And this is obviously a crazy hypothetical. If you did that in Atlanta, they would have gave you the mvp. I think the city effect that he had obviously played phenomenon. But the way that he brought that city up and that support behind him was so crazy. They was there, like, undeniable cause that was a basketball city at Ms. Jordan. And they just like, oh, we got the next.
[24:25]
Unknown Host
And he from here.
[24:26]
Tom Brokaw
He our savior type shit. And didn't have. He was killing either.
[24:30]
Unknown Host
So what was the biggest snub MVP snub to y' all? It gotta be. It gotta be.
[24:37]
Dwight Howard
I think that, too. I was gonna say that one.
[24:39]
Tom Brokaw
Yeah. That's tough.
[24:40]
Unknown Host
That is.
[24:41]
Clayton English
Yeah. That's a tough question.
[24:42]
Dwight Howard
I had to think the biggest snub.
[24:44]
Tom Brokaw
Shaq could have got one of the movies.
[24:46]
Dwight Howard
I was gonna say the Shaq and the Kobe one.
[24:48]
Unknown Host
Yeah. Shaq or Kobe should have got them MVPs.
[24:50]
Clayton English
But Shaq should have won every year.
[24:53]
Unknown Host
Every year, damn near 2000s, bro.
[24:56]
Clayton English
Every year you should have won in the early 2000s. Yeah. For him to only have one is out of pocket.
[25:00]
Unknown Host
And Kobe only got one.
[25:02]
Dwight Howard
Why you only think he got one?
[25:04]
Clayton English
I don't know, bro. Cause it's bullshit.
[25:06]
Unknown Host
Cause Jokic about to have four and. But he really killed in the playoffs, though. Yeah.
[25:12]
Dwight Howard
Was he killing the regular season?
[25:13]
Unknown Host
He killed.
[25:13]
Tom Brokaw
But, I mean, the documentary said he was coasting until it was time to kill.
[25:16]
Unknown Host
Yeah, he killed in the playoffs.
[25:18]
Tom Brokaw
He was still Shaq. He gonna get 25 and 10.
[25:20]
Clayton English
I mean, which. I know who I am, though, bro. Shaq. Yeah. Cause I mean, shit, they don't give you the MVP till, what, Damn near the Finals.
[25:27]
Unknown Host
But it's for the season, though. It's funny.
[25:30]
Dwight Howard
What is the actual rules on it. Cause it seemed like every year. Switch up.
[25:34]
Clayton English
Thank you, Dwayne.
[25:35]
Tom Brokaw
It's supposed to be French season announced in the postseason, but everybody Feels way. So we be like, all right, if the MVP losing the first round, he might not get mvp.
[25:44]
Dwight Howard
They need to switch all that up.
[25:45]
Unknown Host
Yeah.
[25:46]
Clayton English
And the qualifications of it just. I think it should be who the most important player on the team. Like if we take this off a team, how good would this team be? Realistically, I think that's how the MVP should be.
[25:58]
Unknown Host
I mean, but that's every team though. Nah, bro, that means everybody gonna have them there. MVP candidate.
[26:02]
Clayton English
Nah, nah.
[26:03]
Unknown Host
If your team is like top five.
[26:04]
Clayton English
But I'm saying like yo, Jokic, however you say his name.
[26:08]
Unknown Host
Joker.
[26:08]
Clayton English
Joker. Take him off the team, bro. They. They mid, bro.
[26:13]
Unknown Host
But you take.
[26:15]
Clayton English
If you take Jason Tatum off the.
[26:17]
Unknown Host
Celtics, you take Jalen Brunson off the Knicks, they could playoffs the hell no.
[26:22]
Tom Brokaw
No, it's quiet.
[26:23]
Clayton English
What said his curtains for him.
[26:24]
Unknown Host
Yeah. No disrespect to Campaign. Campaign is the point guard for the Knicks right now. They.
[26:29]
Dwight Howard
They out this campaign the strongest left handed. He's so left handed, it's crazy.
[26:34]
Tom Brokaw
I need you from his ankle.
[26:35]
Unknown Host
Yesterday he does. Yesterday when Jalen got fouled out.
[26:39]
Clayton English
Who.
[26:40]
Tom Brokaw
Yeah, bro, it's. I think you gotta. I think you should at least be maybe top three seed. Cause I mean y' all not gonna get nobody MVP that's averaging 30 in that seventh seed.
[26:48]
Unknown Host
Yeah, I mean Jokic won it one.
[26:51]
Dwight Howard
Year, but that was like the six. He was like the six.
[26:53]
Unknown Host
They gave MVP to players that team wasn't top five.
[26:59]
Tom Brokaw
It rarely happened. But I mean the way that he dominated was undeniable too at that time, period.
[27:02]
Clayton English
So I think KG could have got it a couple more times too, bro.
[27:06]
Dwight Howard
In Minnesota.
[27:07]
Clayton English
Yeah. KG used to kill in Minnesota.
[27:09]
Unknown Host
They just wasn't winning. He got it at the time he needed to get it.
[27:12]
Clayton English
They just wasn't winning, bro.
[27:13]
Tom Brokaw
MVPs are just really hard to come by.
[27:15]
Unknown Host
I gotta ask you. Cause you played with Bron, you played with Kobe. Like what was the difference between them two? Like Kobe.
[27:25]
Dwight Howard
Kobe's an asshole. Not saying he's an asshole to me. I'm just saying like his personality. Like he an asshole.
[27:31]
Unknown Host
Like he don't give a fuck.
[27:34]
Dwight Howard
Yeah, Bron give a fuck. He want everybody to like him. He want to joke around, laugh, have a good time. I just think they two ends of the spectrum when it comes to their personalities. And on the court, Kobe just trying to get 50. He's trying to kill who you think was better. Shit scoring wise, you gotta go with Kobe.
[28:04]
Unknown Host
How though? And Bron got the most points in league history.
[28:07]
Dwight Howard
Cause he played for the longest. And he getting dunks and layups.
[28:11]
Tom Brokaw
I'm talking about that scoring, though.
[28:12]
Dwight Howard
It is scoring. It is scoring. But I'm saying, like, as far as getting buckets like shit all the way.
[28:18]
Unknown Host
Around, I mean, how else would we get buckets? If you can't stop me getting to the basket, He.
[28:22]
Clayton English
Listen, See, don't fall into that, Dwight.
[28:25]
Unknown Host
I'm just saying. I think. I think Bron the best scorer of all time.
[28:29]
Clayton English
Bron is the best score in different spots, though. Kobe could get to it better than Bron.
[28:34]
Unknown Host
I gotta get to that spot. Just run you over. Yeah, you can't really. Because Kareem had the most points before.
[28:42]
Dwight Howard
And I think I still would think. I'm always going with Kareem. Cause I think he got the one shot. I used to tell them, Kareem the Goat. Cause he got the one shot. Nobody could stop. And he had 30,000 points doing twos. He ain't shooting no threes.
[28:58]
Clayton English
That is crazy.
[28:59]
Dwight Howard
He have no threes.
[28:59]
Clayton English
He did from the three, though.
[29:01]
Dwight Howard
He what?
[29:02]
Clayton English
He was a gun.
[29:03]
Unknown Host
But he did play 28 years.
[29:05]
Clayton English
Yeah.
[29:06]
Dwight Howard
But he's still doing two points to get 30,000.
[29:09]
Unknown Host
That is a lot of money.
[29:10]
Dwight Howard
He's the greatest. He got the most high school and college accolades, all that stuff.
[29:15]
Tom Brokaw
His career is insane.
[29:16]
Unknown Host
Yeah, that's what I'm saying. I'll take Bron.
[29:19]
Dwight Howard
You would take Bron? Cause it just. Nah.
[29:22]
Unknown Host
Cause I just watch basketball and I'm like, I would take Bron.
[29:25]
Clayton English
Kareem is literally one and done.
[29:28]
Dwight Howard
Who's stopping Kareem?
[29:29]
Clayton English
But I'm saying, you would never see that era again.
[29:31]
Unknown Host
There's nothing more.
[29:31]
Clayton English
Kareem, your dad did not have you in the hood shooting hook shots like Korea thousand times.
[29:37]
Dwight Howard
I was doing hook shots on my own. That was one of my favorite shots.
[29:40]
Unknown Host
Yeah, but you. You never let go.
[29:43]
Clayton English
You never did the Lego.
[29:45]
Dwight Howard
You never heard my highlights. Mine was running hooks. I did all running hooks.
[29:49]
Clayton English
You was not throwing your leg in the air.
[29:52]
Dwight Howard
I wasn't.
[29:56]
Clayton English
Drop step, babe.
[29:59]
Unknown Host
You did not say, I want to put like Kareem on doing your part.
[30:02]
Dwight Howard
No, I didn't.
[30:03]
Unknown Host
Hell, no.
[30:03]
Dwight Howard
No. I don't think nobody said, that's my boy.
[30:06]
Clayton English
Yeah, There it is.
[30:08]
Unknown Host
He said he made the shot because they banned dunking.
[30:11]
Dwight Howard
Right.
[30:11]
Unknown Host
I want to know how he.
[30:14]
Dwight Howard
Cause the goals. The goals probably wasn't as strong to handle people dunking like that.
[30:19]
Clayton English
Yeah.
[30:19]
Dwight Howard
Than they are now. So I can understand that. Because when I was in high school, and that's not even that long ago. We couldn't dunk in warmups.
[30:27]
Unknown Host
We still can't.
[30:29]
Dwight Howard
Still can't do that.
[30:29]
Clayton English
Nah, yo, that's a real rule.
[30:31]
Dwight Howard
Yeah. Cause you won't break the goals and stuff like that.
[30:34]
Clayton English
Yeah, we know in Jersey they let y' all.
[30:36]
Dwight Howard
In Jersey. Let y' all do anything, man.
[30:38]
Tom Brokaw
Yeah, ain't no rules in Jersey, man.
[30:41]
Dwight Howard
They about to add the shot clock.
[30:42]
Unknown Host
Y' all don't have a shot clock.
[30:43]
Clayton English
We don't either. What, y' all had that in Georgia.
[30:47]
Dwight Howard
I don't even remember.
[30:50]
Unknown Host
Saying, what, like 6 o' clock?
[30:53]
Tom Brokaw
Who was gonna talk to your wife in 24 seconds?
[30:57]
Unknown Host
This is fact.
[30:59]
Clayton English
Was that the. What was that the game plan, though, in high school? Let's get this together.
[31:03]
Unknown Host
Hold on.
[31:04]
Tom Brokaw
Yeah, he answered the question, bro.
[31:06]
Unknown Host
Who better, Brian or Kobe?
[31:09]
Clayton English
You right.
[31:09]
Dwight Howard
Damn.
[31:10]
Unknown Host
Yeah, I tried to let him get.
[31:12]
Clayton English
I was trying. Dwight.
[31:13]
Dwight Howard
Everything. Everything combined. You got to give it to LeBron.
[31:17]
Unknown Host
Okay?
[31:18]
Dwight Howard
Bat scoring wise, I gotta say, I like Kobe. If it's late in the game, I'm giving the ball to Kobe, okay? I'm not gonna give the ball to LeBron late in the game. I'm gonna give it to Kobe. But LeBron got. He got it.
[31:31]
Unknown Host
I take that.
[31:32]
Tom Brokaw
That is funny as hell. That LeBron don't, like, get considered as a score. He got the most buckets ever. We understand how, but that's crazy.
[31:39]
Unknown Host
I never understood it. He averaged like 25 every year, bro.
[31:42]
Tom Brokaw
I have the most buckets ever, bro.
[31:43]
Clayton English
He don't have a Kareem. He don't have a Kareem. Stat line. Bron score all over the floor. I mean, of course he get majority.
[31:49]
Dwight Howard
So does Blair have a bag?
[31:51]
Unknown Host
I'm bigger, I'm stronger, I'm faster. I don't need. I don't need a bag. He don't. He don't do moves.
[32:02]
Tom Brokaw
First of all, no disrespect. One of the best moves in basketball.
[32:08]
Dwight Howard
That's what I'm calling. There's no way I'm letting this man look at his hand and the ball.
[32:16]
Clayton English
He do he look right at his.
[32:18]
Dwight Howard
Hand and look at them and go back.
[32:19]
Clayton English
That's the part.
[32:21]
Unknown Host
That's how I know he the goat.
[32:22]
Tom Brokaw
When he was younger, he used to get real disrespectful and spit the ball in his hands and J. I'm like, brian is so disrespectful because we know you're not passing, bro.
[32:28]
Clayton English
Yeah, I think y' all might got Brian up. Brian got a bag, bro. Not a KHA bag, but he got a Bag?
[32:35]
Dwight Howard
He ain't got no bag.
[32:36]
Unknown Host
He got.
[32:37]
Clayton English
He do, bro. Cause his passing is. It goes into that too.
[32:41]
Unknown Host
I mean, he could pass like a month.
[32:42]
Dwight Howard
He can pass like crazy kind of way. We talking about his bag like.
[32:48]
Tom Brokaw
A handler.
[32:48]
Unknown Host
Miami.
[32:49]
Tom Brokaw
Brian was there for 300, bro. I don't need a bag, bro. Get out my way or you go die, bro.
[32:52]
Unknown Host
Facts, facts. He don't even know I done seen.
[32:54]
Clayton English
Brian 2020 pull up.
[32:56]
Tom Brokaw
I mean, he.
[32:57]
Unknown Host
He. He nice. He. But he ain't got handles like that.
[33:02]
Dwight Howard
So you say he better than Jordan? Hey, come on now.
[33:06]
Clayton English
Let's nigga podcast today.
[33:07]
Unknown Host
Yeah, I think he better than Jordan.
[33:09]
Dwight Howard
He better than Jordan.
[33:10]
Unknown Host
Yeah.
[33:10]
Dwight Howard
In what? Shooting everything.
[33:13]
Unknown Host
Oh, it ain't nothing. He can't do that, Mike. I don't know about shooting shit. Mike can't shoot threes. Mm.
[33:19]
Clayton English
Mm.
[33:19]
Unknown Host
Mike had a crazy mid range.
[33:21]
Dwight Howard
Mike shoot threes.
[33:21]
Tom Brokaw
Elite fade away.
[33:22]
Unknown Host
Yeah, but. Well, he can't do that. Mike did.
[33:26]
Clayton English
For real. I wanna hear y' all answer besides.
[33:28]
Unknown Host
The final stuff, but I feel like me. I feel like Bron played better players in the finals and had to go to some tougher roles like, ooh wee.
[33:36]
Dwight Howard
Shit, they got Detroit.
[33:39]
Unknown Host
Shout out to Zeke. Shout out to Z. Mike didn't play Detroit in the finals. He had to get through Detroit.
[33:43]
Tom Brokaw
Yeah, yeah, but he had to play. What? The Lakers scenes. That was older Magic. That Phoenix sun scene was Magic.
[33:50]
Unknown Host
Was old Magic.
[33:51]
Clayton English
Supersonics, they played the sun.
[33:53]
Unknown Host
Simple Sonics. No disrespect to gt, but he's got Steph Curry, Kevin Durant. Nah, but you just said y' all got the best era.
[34:01]
Dwight Howard
Yeah, we do got the best era.
[34:03]
Unknown Host
Okay.
[34:03]
Clayton English
That's Brian era, bro.
[34:04]
Unknown Host
Yeah, I played okc. The one I won. I played three hall of Famers in James Harden, Westbrook and kd.
[34:11]
Clayton English
He had to get through KG and them.
[34:13]
Unknown Host
Then I had to get through Boston.
[34:15]
Clayton English
Yep.
[34:15]
Tom Brokaw
Spurs was historically good.
[34:17]
Unknown Host
Spurs got five hall of Famers.
[34:19]
Clayton English
Yep.
[34:21]
Tom Brokaw
And that goes to say, team's one of the best teams in NBA history.
[34:23]
Unknown Host
NBA history. And then who, Bro, I played against him. No disrespect to Mike, but he played John Stockton and Karl Malone.
[34:30]
Clayton English
That was cold though, bro.
[34:31]
Unknown Host
They are. But that duo.
[34:32]
Clayton English
Shout out to Jeff.
[34:33]
Unknown Host
That duo is not better than no other duo that we just named that Brian played in the Finals. You taking.
[34:40]
Clayton English
I don't know. Freaky Carl, bro.
[34:41]
Dwight Howard
Was Carl Malone.
[34:43]
Unknown Host
Y' all taking him over Tim Duncan Parker.
[34:46]
Dwight Howard
Freaky Carl, though. Crazy.
[34:50]
Unknown Host
Wow.
[34:51]
Clayton English
Yeah.
[34:51]
Dwight Howard
I won't stay out of that one.
[34:53]
Unknown Host
You can.
[34:56]
Clayton English
Shout out to Freaky K. He was. He was a bucket.
[35:03]
Unknown Host
And John Stockton don't he got.
[35:05]
Dwight Howard
Why not?
[35:06]
Clayton English
I'm not either. Yeah.
[35:08]
Dwight Howard
No.
[35:08]
Tom Brokaw
I'm taking Tim Duncan all day.
[35:10]
Clayton English
Oh, facts. He's better.
[35:11]
Tom Brokaw
Yeah. I'm just rolling.
[35:12]
Unknown Host
I'm taking Tim Duncan.
[35:13]
Tom Brokaw
And from a defensive aspect too.
[35:15]
Unknown Host
Yeah. I'm taking Argument. Who better, Tim Duncan or kg? Tim Duncan.
[35:19]
Tom Brokaw
Tim Duncan. No disrespect to kg.
[35:20]
Unknown Host
Cause I thought Tim Duncan had a better career.
[35:23]
Clayton English
Nah, I'm taking kg.
[35:25]
Unknown Host
What y' all want me to do? I got San Antonio lit. Yeah. Who the fuck want to go San Antonio?
[35:31]
Tom Brokaw
If he was more of a selfish player, the stats would have been more.
[35:33]
Dwight Howard
I got Rashid over Tim Duncan.
[35:35]
Unknown Host
Yeah.
[35:36]
Clayton English
I'm not mad.
[35:36]
Dwight Howard
He must.
[35:37]
Unknown Host
He must have gave you buckets.
[35:38]
Clayton English
Yeah. No.
[35:41]
Dwight Howard
Rasheed was cold, man.
[35:43]
Tom Brokaw
He was cold.
[35:44]
Clayton English
Made Dwight hit the white room. That type respect, that was your.
[35:51]
Dwight Howard
He.
[35:52]
Unknown Host
Stripes against them. But ain't no way in hell he think he better too though. What?
[35:57]
Dwight Howard
Come on. Y' all got crazy. Y' all can't do that because Rashid didn't have those comp. Rashid was more of a team.
[36:04]
Unknown Host
He.
[36:04]
Dwight Howard
He ain't really care about having that kind of service.
[36:07]
Tom Brokaw
I think Tim Duncan.
[36:08]
Unknown Host
Tim Duncan is the most team friendly nigga I ever seen in my life. Even with his paychecks.
[36:13]
Clayton English
50 games probably. What you mean he took less to.
[36:15]
Unknown Host
Be on those first teams?
[36:17]
Clayton English
Yeah.
[36:17]
Dwight Howard
Cause on the back end he was getting paid.
[36:19]
Unknown Host
Of course he still could probably get paid, but I'm just saying it looked like it looked good. Yeah.
[36:22]
Tom Brokaw
Look at Jalen Brunson. Y' all think he just took a L on? Nah, he gonna have real estate New York.
[36:27]
Unknown Host
Yeah, for sure.
[36:27]
Tom Brokaw
I'm sure some backdoor should have gone out.
[36:29]
Dwight Howard
So you all taking? Okay, so KG or Rasheed?
[36:33]
Clayton English
I got kg, I got ticket.
[36:34]
Tom Brokaw
I'll take kg.
[36:36]
Unknown Host
But Tim Duncan over all them.
[36:38]
Tom Brokaw
You can't mess it with either one of them.
[36:39]
Unknown Host
Those are all three.
[36:40]
Tom Brokaw
Probably the top five.
[36:40]
Clayton English
Ticket was the first one to me to do what he did in NBA.
[36:43]
Unknown Host
So you gonna take that Jazz team over the spurs team? Tim Duncan, Ginoblyn.
[36:48]
Clayton English
I don't even like Utah. I don't like none of that.
[36:52]
Unknown Host
Cause they said bike played a better team.
[36:54]
Tom Brokaw
And respect to Byron Russell Ginoby is cooking him for sure. Yeah.
[36:59]
Unknown Host
Oh. What?
[37:00]
Tom Brokaw
That's what I'm saying.
[37:01]
Dwight Howard
Russell.
[37:02]
Unknown Host
Yeah. Bron played better teams.
[37:04]
Clayton English
He did, bro. Manu was that nigga shout out to Greg Ulster Tag.
[37:08]
Dwight Howard
But well, nah, we can't even say. We can't even say. Braun did play against better teams he.
[37:14]
Clayton English
Did playing against you got to go through KD Russ and James Harden.
[37:19]
Unknown Host
All I gotta do is beat Charles.
[37:20]
Clayton English
Barkley and Kevin Johnson, Stephen Curry, Draymond Green.
[37:24]
Dwight Howard
Question we just looking at it from the paper like we not actually some of these guys may not didn't have a name like the KGS and all them but they was cold back then.
[37:36]
Unknown Host
They was cold.
[37:36]
Dwight Howard
They defense and all that stuff.
[37:40]
Clayton English
It took a 07 Cavs team which half the world can't remember who was on that team to the finals.
[37:45]
Tom Brokaw
Bro. He knowable DJ stop helping my fault.
[37:50]
Dwight Howard
Got his fingers out count Iran Noble.
[37:55]
Unknown Host
No disrespect.
[37:57]
Clayton English
Nah.
[37:57]
Dwight Howard
Who else is on that team the ball head point guard.
[38:01]
Unknown Host
See well you got to do that.
[38:03]
Clayton English
We don't even got that much time Williams who what's name start with a M. Yeah.
[38:11]
Tom Brokaw
Oh he was that was he Snow.
[38:12]
Unknown Host
Yeah. Eric Sn.
[38:13]
Dwight Howard
Oh, Eric Snow. That's hey, that's one of the strongest point guards in the history.
[38:19]
Clayton English
This another question about his life.
[38:23]
Unknown Host
When you guys start saying what a one of the strongest ever. You know you that ain't no Hell no.
[38:29]
Dwight Howard
Who was on that team?
[38:30]
Unknown Host
That's what I'm saying, bro.
[38:31]
Dwight Howard
Oh, Anderson Bar.
[38:33]
Tom Brokaw
He was.
[38:34]
Dwight Howard
He was on the team. And the tall what's the.
[38:38]
Unknown Host
Braun was what, 21, 22.
[38:41]
Clayton English
Freaky Gibb was there. He was at two guard. The point guard.
[38:44]
Dwight Howard
Gibbs.
[38:45]
Unknown Host
Come on, bro. Y. Y' all tripping.
[38:47]
Clayton English
Yeah.
[38:48]
Unknown Host
Think about when Brian left. No disrespect to Booby Gibson boy. What happened?
[38:51]
Clayton English
Yeah, bro.
[38:53]
Tom Brokaw
Not even to the team. The city died.
[38:58]
Lester Holt
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[39:40]
Clayton English
And it's bad.
[39:42]
Lester Holt
It's really, really bad. Really, really bad. Listen to new episodes of Absolute Season 1, Taser Incorporated, on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Binge episodes 1, 2 and 3 on May 21 and episodes 4, 5 and 6 on June 4 ad free at Lava for Good plus on Apple Podcasts.
[40:07]
Clayton English
I'm Clayton English. I'M Greg Lodd and this is season two of the War on Drugs podcast. Yes sir, we are back in a big way.
[40:13]
Lester Holt
In a very big way. Real people, real perspectives.
[40:17]
Clayton English
This is kind of star studded a little bit, man. We got Ricky Williams, NFL player, Heisman Trophy winner. It's just the compassionate choice to allow players all reasonable means to care for themselves.
[40:28]
Lester Holt
Music stars Marcus King, John Osborne from Brothers Osborne.
[40:32]
Tom Brokaw
We have this misunderstanding of what this.
[40:35]
Clayton English
Quote unquote drug fans Benny the Butcher.
[40:39]
Lester Holt
Brent Smith from Shinedown got be real from Cypress Hill, NHL enforcer Riley Cote.
[40:44]
Clayton English
Marine Corvette MMA fighter Liz Caramouche.
[40:48]
Lester Holt
What we're doing now isn't working and.
[40:50]
Clayton English
We need to change things.
[40:51]
Lester Holt
Stories matter and it brings a face to them.
[40:53]
Clayton English
It makes it real.
[40:54]
Lester Holt
It really does. It makes it real.
[40:56]
Clayton English
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[41:18]
Lester Holt
I'm Michael Casson, founder and CEO of 3C Ventures and your guide on Good Company, the podcast where I sit down with the boldest innovators shaping what's next. In this episode I'm joined by Angeli Su, CEO of Tubi, for a conversation that's anything but ordinary. We dive into the competitive world of streaming, how she's turning so called niche into mainstream, connecting audiences with stories that truly make them feel seen. What others dismiss as niche, we embrace as core. It's this idea that there's so many stories out there and if you can find a way to curate and help the right person discover the right content. The term that we always hear from our audience is that they feel seen. Get a front row seat to where media, marketing, technology, entertainment and sports collide and hear how leaders like Angelique are carving out space and shaking things up a bit in the most crowded of markets. Listen to Good company on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.
[42:32]
Clayton English
Yeah, it don't mean. I think a lot of people too just be wanting that. Wanting to play the smoke though that's cool too.
[42:39]
Unknown Host
But what's really the smoke? Like you drive all the way to, you fly all the way to California, you play a team and got some hold backs, y' all. Fourth grade, they fifth grade they had hold backs or whatever. They beat y' all by 30. Your kids come home like man, we sad as fuck.
[42:53]
Clayton English
I agree.
[42:54]
Unknown Host
But I used to, I never understood.
[42:55]
Tom Brokaw
That I used to be like, now it's super bad. Cause they got YouTube and they looking at the number one ranked fifth grader in the nation. It's just like, bro, he might even be the 100th by the time he's in sixth grade. But he got a clip right now, YouTube short, and it's cracking. So now we want to tap in.
[43:11]
Unknown Host
I remember all them little kids when they was little, man. What's the dude? Brad. And they used to always talk about him, man. He. He ended up. He was from Houston, bro. Bryce Griggs.
[43:21]
Clayton English
Oh, yeah.
[43:22]
Unknown Host
I think that was his name. I remember he ended up going to ot.
[43:26]
Clayton English
Yeah, bro.
[43:27]
Unknown Host
They used to talk about this kid so much, bro. And no, no, no smut on his name. I don't know what his journey in basketball was. Yeah, and like, man, he the best seventh grader I ever seen. I was like, bro, he's really good. I'm like, but whoopty fucking dude, bro.
[43:42]
Clayton English
Yeah, he 13.
[43:43]
Unknown Host
I'm like, bro, I seen kids. Marcus whole team in sixth grade was doing reverse dunks in sixth grade. I never seen. I seen Marcus hoop after they got to ninth grade, tenth grade. I'd never seen none of the body else on his team, bro.
[43:56]
Clayton English
Yeah, true.
[43:57]
Unknown Host
I'm like, where the hell. All them dudes that was dunking when they was was 11, they ain't who no more. One of them was on the block. I'm like, look at him. I remember you used to get dunk in sixth grade.
[44:05]
Clayton English
But a lot of these kids, bro, got single mamas. So they seeing a kid get this notoriety and these coaches is, you know, talking to him different. He could be this, he could be that. You kind of lose track that they just kids and they got so much more to go. Like, I understand both sides of it.
[44:19]
Unknown Host
I know you right?
[44:20]
Clayton English
But I don't standpoint who don't? Because you. Because you know, though, bro, for my mother, who don't know and shit, it's.
[44:28]
Unknown Host
Obvious though, if you keep the main thing. The main thing, like, everybody know. If you hear LeBron tell you keep the main thing, the main thing, nigga, you don't nobody else in the world need to tell you nothing. Like, true. He been there every road. You talking about single mom, all that stuff. If LeBron telling you, hey, keep basketball the main thing, don't worry about all this stuff, like what we talking about.
[44:52]
Tom Brokaw
And even if you like, that's LeBron, he's Anomaly, cool. But if you look at every other NBA player, especially like with the one My guy, Brad Beal. That's legendary video. We have a lot of those players saying, hey, this is all bullshit. Now you got people talking about the Nil. Stop selling your high school dreams already for a check and you can fuck it up before you get to college. Take your time, get to college and then worry about that. Like you said, keep the main thing.
[45:14]
Unknown Host
The main thing going to worry about playing. Like, I give you the vibes. Like, shout out to, like, AJ the Bancer and all them. It's only so many of them. Like, some of y' all are going. This my biggest thing. You gotta be loved. Where you from, like. Cause your city is always gonna be your backbone. They always gonna have your back. They gonna root for you, like, even when shit go bad or you done hooping, whatever, you can always like me. I go back to Pike, I can get a job, I can be a coach, I can start a new career. But if you go traveling the world, switching school from school, and you ain't got no foundation like where you from or somebody really championing or rooting for you, you just out here.
[45:54]
Tom Brokaw
Yep.
[45:55]
Unknown Host
Like, I give an example, like Brandon Jennings going to Oak Hill, that's cool. People that went to Oak Hill, that's fire. Whatever. But you see how they talk about him. Like, you ain't no real la. You ain't play LA basketball. You know what I mean? That was too good for la. And he got a rep. Oak Hill. But Oak Hill is in Virginia. People don't really. But if you look at DeMar DeRozan when he talk about him in high school, yeah, he, like, loved, like, he went to Compton, whatever. You know what I mean? It's like a different vibe. And I always felt that. But like, Eric Gordon, like, from our area, like, Greg Odin, all them going to them schools, they like, everybody stuff your community, bro. Yeah.
[46:32]
Tom Brokaw
Even at the next level in college, you get so many kids move around. Cause they in il. But if you ain't got a home in college, hey, the league don't work out, you can go back and be a broadcaster at your old school. You can go be a coach, you bouncing school to school. Yeah, the bread is there, but the relationships is torn.
[46:44]
Unknown Host
Every year he cooked, bro. Like, Robbie Hummel can do whatever he want at Purdue for the rest of his life, bro.
[46:49]
Tom Brokaw
Legend.
[46:49]
Unknown Host
He got hurt so much. NBA career didn't last long. He could go to Purdue and do whatever he want. E2 O' Neill go to Purdue, do whatever he want. And it's like, that's amazing.
[46:58]
Clayton English
That's true. I just. Like I said, I see the other side of it. I don't agree with it, but people don't have that common knowledge, bro.
[47:06]
Unknown Host
But, you know, we've been around some money before. You know how fast you go to a prep school, they give you $50,000? You know how fast $50,000 leave your.
[47:16]
Clayton English
Hand, are you done? You cook. Especially if you ain't never had that type of chicken.
[47:20]
Unknown Host
What?
[47:21]
Tom Brokaw
Yeah, especially in a lawyer, the first time paying real taxes is like, bro.
[47:24]
Unknown Host
That 50,000 gone you owe. Yeah, 50,000 gone as soon as you pay your rent.
[47:30]
Clayton English
Yeah.
[47:30]
Tom Brokaw
Cardinal Uncle Sam, you ain't got shit, bro.
[47:33]
Unknown Host
What?
[47:33]
Tom Brokaw
Cause you gonna buy a car.
[47:34]
Unknown Host
Your kid that went out there, 50,000, you know, sent him somewhere for 50,000.
[47:39]
Clayton English
I just hate when they. When they don't work out for the kids and you gotta parent 12 times harder. Cause now you gotta, like, retrain his mental health. Damn near. Like, that's what I'd be fucked up about.
[47:51]
Unknown Host
Like, go to a prep school, you don't have too much success. Or like, they don't realize when you go to a prep school, you go into a place where usually it's a bunch of other guys who are good.
[48:03]
Clayton English
Yeah.
[48:04]
Unknown Host
So, yo, whatever it is gonna take a hit. You never have the ability to learn to take over games or do something. Cause somebody always is doing something for you. Like, if you got a point guard who's elite, he gonna make everything happen for you. If you're a big man, if you a big man, that's a lead. And your point guard is just a little. Okay. He made it easier for you. So you never learned how to be a guy.
[48:22]
Clayton English
Nah.
[48:23]
Unknown Host
Facts and everything just become easier at a prep school. Y' all might play other talented schools, but. But it's only so many schools you can play. You're gonna have to have a schedule. If you got 30 games, y' all gonna play some cupcakes.
[48:34]
Clayton English
Oh, facts for sure. For sure.
[48:37]
Tom Brokaw
Yeah, you look at all them prep schools. I mean, they only playing 10 to 12 cold teams. Probably a couple local teams. Other than that, they are definitely cupcakes, bro. Come on, Bo, pat them sacks.
[48:46]
Clayton English
And I don't even like it too, because the kids that ain't as good as the third, fourth best fifth graders in the country. That kind of discouraged them. Cause they like, like, man, a little more cold. This nine, bro, you ain't even realizing. You about to be way taller than him, way stronger than him. By the time y' all 8th grade, you gonna be looking at him he green green. You know what I'm saying? So it really that they need good people around them to tell them, like, that's why I love, like, when all the NBA, even that didn't hoop in the NBA. Just college top college just come back and get back to the kids because they need that. The social media wasn't like that when we was growing up, bro. Cause I think that would have been different for us too.
[49:23]
Unknown Host
Too. Yeah, we would have been affected for sure, bro.
[49:25]
Clayton English
Short of God. You would have.
[49:26]
Tom Brokaw
Come on, bro. We fell in love with and one mixtapes and everybody want to play basketball.
[49:30]
Clayton English
I know everybody from our lips just chap.
[49:33]
Unknown Host
Can't find my chapstick from our era.
[49:35]
Clayton English
That went to the NBA, stayed in school. I don't know if everybody would have stayed in high school back when we was in. You know what I mean?
[49:41]
Unknown Host
Or went to the league.
[49:42]
Clayton English
Niggas might have actually went to a prep school if they got offered some chicken.
[49:46]
Unknown Host
Oh, for sure. You know what I'm saying? I don't know, though. Cause the beauty about us. Cause you n was, you know, you can get paid.
[49:56]
Clayton English
Yeah.
[49:57]
Unknown Host
But the thing that was beautiful about us, the competition was so good here. Yeah, like, the competition is good here still. But here it was like I'm playing a prep school schedule. Cause I play an NBA player every night. Yep.
[50:10]
Tom Brokaw
You could just play in the mix. You were seeing the NBA player every single weekend.
[50:14]
Clayton English
That's a fact. That's a fact, man.
[50:16]
Unknown Host
And like, you wasn't gonna get no better. Like, the one thing about it, money ain't going nowhere. If you put in the work and you that good, you gonna get some money. Facts. That's what my dad used to always say. He used to be like, if you think you that you gonna get some money, but if you not that you ain't gonna get no money.
[50:36]
Clayton English
Nah, for sure.
[50:37]
Unknown Host
And I used to then believe him. I used to be like. Cause you know I'm trying to get some bread. He was like, it'll happen. You just gotta be that.
[50:47]
Clayton English
See, a lot of kids don't receive that, though. That worked out for y' all. Cause y' all was like phenomenal athletes. But these kids work ethic is trash.
[50:55]
Unknown Host
But that mean you really ain't that you giving me my. You making my prime example. Like, all right, somebody gonna give you some money cause you tall. Or somebody gonna give you some money cause you fast right now. But that shit catch up to you if you not really one of them.
[51:08]
Clayton English
Oh, yeah.
[51:08]
Unknown Host
Eventually the rubber gonna meet the road and your shit, your dream gonna be shot like it's gonna be over. That's why I hate kids who get all this hype, like, when they young. And then, like, you got no choice but to go to the league, right? Like, whatever. You have hype since you was in sixth grade to your senior year. You go to Kansas and you do just enough to get to the league. But you never really been putting through anything. And a rubber gotta meet the road. And then your NBA journey is.
[51:39]
Clayton English
Yeah. And then you don't know how to adapt.
[51:41]
Unknown Host
And now you gotta live real life.
[51:45]
Tom Brokaw
No life skills. You've been babies your whole life. Ain't got a degree, relationship might be shaky.
[51:50]
Unknown Host
You gotta figure it out overseas if that might not work. Cause you ain't never had to go out the country. And you always been catered to. Now you gotta get to it. And now everybody. Now you gotta start being like me. Talk about what you did, what I used to do, who I used to be.
[52:06]
Clayton English
You're the real Al Bundy.
[52:07]
Unknown Host
Yeah. Like, nah. I was number one in the world. And this is no shade to him. I love. I actually glad. I'm not glad it happened to him. But, like, his story makes it easier for me be a coach. I show everybody Lenny Cook's story.
[52:20]
Tom Brokaw
Yeah.
[52:21]
Clayton English
Oh, yeah. That was our best example of all time growing up.
[52:26]
Unknown Host
I show him Lenny Cook every time, man. I told Isaiah, I was like, wait, watch this. Yeah, you need to watch this Lenny Cook documentary, man.
[52:33]
Clayton English
That'll humble the fuck out of him.
[52:34]
Unknown Host
Yeah. Cause he was right there, so. And shout out to him, man. He be writing the page. He wrote me before, too.
[52:41]
Tom Brokaw
Shout out to Lenny Cook.
[52:41]
Clayton English
Nah. Hell yeah.
[52:42]
Unknown Host
His story is very inspiring. And, like, it wake you up for real?
[52:47]
Tom Brokaw
Yeah, most definitely. Good talk, man. Even, like, Kenya Mar was talking on Gil's podcast, like, if y' all training all day basketball, you probably fucking suck. Like, you have to go play basketball to play basketball. All the things that's glorified in basketball is everything but putting the work in.
[53:00]
Clayton English
Yeah. I'm a five or five anyway, over one on one.
[53:04]
Unknown Host
I can give you an example of a kid and then we can get something else. A kid told me today, nah, he raw. I said, where you see him play at? He's like, his highlights are crazy. I said, yeah. You know what? It's called a highlight. I was like, have you ever checked out his low lights? He's like, what's that? I said, yeah, yeah.
[53:19]
Clayton English
See, that's my example right there. These kids are so green, bro. They don't know. So they need people like you to tell them.
[53:25]
Unknown Host
Look, he said Elliott Cadeau used to be raw. I said, was he raw? He was like, man, his mixtapes was crazy. I was like, it was highlights, sure. I like, did you watch him at unc? He was like, I ain't really. I ain't really do nothing. I said, I know. And that's no shade to him. Cause I hope you have a successful. I know he transferred to Michigan. I hope a good showing in Michigan. But I was just saying like his.
[53:49]
Clayton English
Shit look like like Paramount Pictures in goddamn high school.
[53:53]
Tom Brokaw
Seventh woods we thought was the second coming, bro. His middle school.
[53:57]
Clayton English
I know this might be a little contradictive. Seven seven woods is the greatest seven seven year what seventh grader I've ever seen in my life. I don't care what Jeff talk about. I know we just had this good spill, but that when I seen seven woods and Atlanta playing basketball, I swear to God I knew knew he was going to leave. You couldn't tell me nothing different. I've never seen a seventh grader guard anybody like that, bro. Like that had 11 steals, bro, in the first half.
[54:27]
Tom Brokaw
It was dirty.
[54:29]
Clayton English
This gotta be 17, bro. No way.
[54:32]
Unknown Host
It was amazing.
[54:33]
Clayton English
Yeah, but that, I mean it shows you where that hype kill you though.
[54:36]
Unknown Host
Yeah. And I'm trying to figure out where you went to school at.
[54:38]
Tom Brokaw
He went to unc.
[54:39]
Unknown Host
He went to unc.
[54:40]
Clayton English
Yeah.
[54:40]
Unknown Host
Because I had never seen. Did he play?
[54:43]
Clayton English
He did here and there. Shaky, but it wasn't compared to the height. That goes to your point though.
[54:47]
Unknown Host
That's what I'm.
[54:48]
Dwight Howard
Yeah, yeah.
[54:49]
Unknown Host
Like that's crazy that he was that good.
[54:51]
Clayton English
Yeah, bro, that.
[54:51]
Tom Brokaw
That was seven woods, bro. For sure.
[54:56]
Unknown Host
That is crazy.
[54:57]
Tom Brokaw
Legend for sure. Hey, man, the Phoenix Suns, man, about to mess around to change the NBA next season, man. They got the new coach in Jordan Ott. You know what I'm saying?
[55:05]
Unknown Host
They going shout out to my dog, man.
[55:07]
Clayton English
That's Jim Boyce.
[55:08]
Unknown Host
Yeah, that's my man's bro. I'm so happy for him.
[55:10]
Tom Brokaw
Yeah, they speak very, very highly of him. They said Devin Booker, you know what I'm saying, was definitely on that committee and making sure he was a part of that. They went through for Devin Booker. He has had eight head coaches since he has been to Phoenix.
[55:21]
Clayton English
Damn.
[55:21]
Tom Brokaw
Obviously he will be around as a franchise player. But they trying to make some shit up, man. I know we talked about on the morning show possibly Katt moving on, but they got some great trade scenarios that include him getting to Phoenix And KD going to the Knicks, man.
[55:34]
Unknown Host
What's the trade scenario? Let's talk to him.
[55:36]
Tom Brokaw
Man, they talking about giving up catch and another player and getting Katie.
[55:41]
Unknown Host
That's crazy. Yo, look who called me. This is this guy. Look who it is. Jordan I O.J.
[55:50]
Tom Brokaw
Oh, that's hilarious. There's no way we could have planned this. By the way.
[55:54]
Unknown Host
I swear I missed the call. I'm gonna tell him. Let's see if he answers. He's a busy man right now. Yeah, I missed this call.
[56:02]
Clayton English
He's ecstatic.
[56:03]
Tom Brokaw
The fact he hit your line is fire, though.
[56:04]
Unknown Host
It is.
[56:06]
Clayton English
He offer you a job, you going, no real problem. Okay. Just make sure. He probably watched the show.
[56:10]
Unknown Host
He called me an hour ago. My bad. Hey, 18. My fault, brother. He might even be on a plane somewhere.
[56:16]
Tom Brokaw
Shout out to J O, man. Getting that head coaching job. But yeah, man, we've seen KD possibly going to the Spurs. There's some interest there. Houston as well.
[56:24]
Clayton English
Ooh, damn.
[56:25]
Unknown Host
KD to the Spurs.
[56:26]
Tom Brokaw
KD to the Spurs. I do, too. I think the asking prices are going to be a little bit cheaper. They trying to get it done within the next couple of weeks before the draft. Preferably. You could get KD for Devin Fussell, Harrison Barnes and that pick. And I don't even think it's a 2 pick. They were talking about possibly B14. But hey, man, imagine getting KD on that team with Wemby. That would be scary.
[56:49]
Unknown Host
Do y' all wanna see KD with Wimby or do y' all wanna see KD in New York? Houston.
[56:56]
Clayton English
I like kd. I like KD with Wemby, over KD with Bronson.
[57:03]
Tom Brokaw
KD and Wimby just sounds insane. With Dee Dee and Fox. I would love to see that. That's not my conference, so I ain't gotta deal with it. I'm all for it.
[57:09]
Unknown Host
You think they can get. They said they can get KD for the 14th pick.
[57:12]
Tom Brokaw
14Th pick. You have to give up cell. Harrison Barnes. Now. You probably got. I don't know. They might try to get that higher pick, which is fine if they do. Cause fuck it, the money's gonna be gone anyway. But then Houston. You know what I'm saying? Houston has a pretty solid pick as well. And they talking about giving up Jabari. Talking about giving up Dillon Brooks and a pick and a pick swap. So if you Phoenix, KD might be your best way to play.
[57:37]
Unknown Host
I don't like giving up Dillon Brooks.
[57:38]
Tom Brokaw
You don't like that?
[57:42]
Unknown Host
Nah. You gotta keep Dylan Brooks.
[57:45]
Tom Brokaw
We Gonna push him to the bench. You gonna just have the mess of three or four.
[57:48]
Unknown Host
He gonna start.
[57:49]
Tom Brokaw
Okay.
[57:49]
Unknown Host
KD gonna play the four. So you gonna start. Van Vliet.
[57:54]
Tom Brokaw
Yeah.
[57:56]
Unknown Host
Green.
[57:56]
Tom Brokaw
Yeah.
[57:57]
Unknown Host
Dylan Brooks. Damn. The Thompson twin. Got start? Yeah, Thompson got start.
[58:04]
Tom Brokaw
All right. What you gonna do with say gun.
[58:06]
Unknown Host
Then say, oh, he's starting five.
[58:09]
Tom Brokaw
So who come off?
[58:09]
Unknown Host
I don't want. I don't want Katie in Houston, okay? I want Katie in Houston. I want KD in New York.
[58:18]
Tom Brokaw
Okay? You okay with the Knicks?
[58:20]
Unknown Host
I want Katie and Neil over with Wimby, bro.
[58:24]
Clayton English
What?
[58:25]
Tom Brokaw
Katie and Wimby would just be fucking ridiculous.
[58:27]
Unknown Host
And I want to say, I don't want to watch San Antonio. No shade. I like.
[58:31]
Tom Brokaw
I hate their homes.
[58:32]
Unknown Host
Y' all know. Yeah, they lit.
[58:33]
Tom Brokaw
I hate their homes.
[58:34]
Unknown Host
You know? I love de' Aaron Fox, bro. One of my favorite players.
[58:36]
Clayton English
They lit, bro.
[58:37]
Unknown Host
I fuck with you, Fox forever. But I don't wanna watch. I don't wanna watch. Like, I love Wemby, too. I love kd. That's a crazy trio.
[58:46]
Tom Brokaw
That's insane.
[58:47]
Unknown Host
I don't.
[58:47]
Clayton English
The best trio.
[58:48]
Unknown Host
I don't want to see Wemby, like, KD's so good. I don't want to see him have to take like a. A little step back. I want to see Wemby shoot wild ass threes and shit.
[58:57]
Clayton English
I think he can.
[58:58]
Tom Brokaw
Oh, he's gonna do that anyway.
[59:00]
Unknown Host
I mean, it's Quinny.
[59:01]
Clayton English
I think it just looks better than him and Giannis.
[59:04]
Unknown Host
I just want to see KD in New York. KD deserved to be in New York. He did it in Brooklyn. He deserves the big likes.
[59:11]
Clayton English
He did his big shit.
[59:12]
Tom Brokaw
The real New York experience.
[59:13]
Unknown Host
Yeah, he deserves that. Like, he should go out like that. The Knicks always get people when they older anyway, so he deserves that.
[59:19]
Tom Brokaw
Damn, he the new Larry Johnson.
[59:21]
Unknown Host
Think about the New York.
[59:21]
Clayton English
I like that team, though.
[59:24]
Unknown Host
Like kd, og. Who they gonna give up? Mikell, you said Mikael and Kat. Mitchell Robinson, kd, og.
[59:33]
Clayton English
Josh Hart's still there.
[59:34]
Unknown Host
And Josh Hart. I like it.
[59:36]
Clayton English
That's a fair team.
[59:37]
Unknown Host
I like it.
[59:38]
Tom Brokaw
That's a tough team.
[59:39]
Clayton English
That is a fair team.
[59:40]
Unknown Host
You got a guaranteed bucket in Brunson. And KD got the defense there with.
[59:45]
Tom Brokaw
Hart and Mitchell Robinson Lee rebounding.
[59:47]
Clayton English
That was the Knicks problem, though. They just had a bunch of people that did stuff good. They have nobody to do nothing great.
[59:53]
Unknown Host
Like KD is a guarantee.
[59:55]
Tom Brokaw
Like, yes, Jesus Christ.
[59:57]
Unknown Host
That's a guarantee. Like, ain't no way Nemhard. No disrespect to Them. But just like Nemhard or Neesmith bothering.
[60:04]
Tom Brokaw
Him, I'm gonna get pissed off. How many versions of the Knicks we gonna have to beat if something happened? We beat y' all ass last year. Y' all gonna get Kat and Mikhail Bridges, then y' all gonna bounce back and get kd, bro. That's not fair, bro.
[60:14]
Unknown Host
I mean, it's New York.
[60:16]
Clayton English
Yeah, it's New York. And you're penalized for living here.
[60:20]
Tom Brokaw
It sucks.
[60:20]
Unknown Host
Yeah. Hold on. I don't like what Joe Button said about.
[60:23]
Tom Brokaw
Yeah, Joe, we still live in Indiana.
[60:25]
Unknown Host
Yeah. Yeah.
[60:26]
Tom Brokaw
Ain't. Chill out, gang.
[60:27]
Clayton English
Joe stole that off TikTok. He didn't mean that. He didn't mean that.
[60:30]
Unknown Host
Oh, he did. I was about to go crazy.
[60:33]
Tom Brokaw
He's still bitter about that belt to ass situation.
[60:35]
Unknown Host
I about to talk about his seats. I can't say that our seats was fucked up. We was at hole first of.
[60:44]
Clayton English
I love you too, but we wasn't in no those weeks.
[60:47]
Unknown Host
Close enough.
[60:48]
Clayton English
Good season, bro.
[60:49]
Tom Brokaw
They believe me when I said y' all was in the 300 level. Somebody on Twitter posted.
[60:53]
Dwight Howard
It was just like, damn, they up there.
[60:54]
Clayton English
I said, no, I'm in the sweet somebody. I should have 250s, bro. Somebody took a picture. Well, mouth, you know, 100,000. 100 cropped it and it's looking like I'm at M. Daniel's jersey. Like, got my head right under.
[61:11]
Unknown Host
Was close enough.
[61:12]
Clayton English
Shout out to cg. Hey, definitely shout out to C. My.
[61:15]
Tom Brokaw
Homeboy posted he was at the game. He was like, yeah, but I had to pull up to the game. He was up top. I said, boy, you better hope your feet are perfect. You are a slip away from home court.
[61:23]
Clayton English
Are y' all going to the finals game?
[61:24]
Tom Brokaw
I'm pissed because I got offered tickets in OKC today, so I can't slide. But I will probably go to game three or game four for sure.
[61:33]
Unknown Host
How much do you think a Finals.
[61:34]
Tom Brokaw
Ticket goes comma, comma, what's your guesses?
[61:40]
Unknown Host
How much? I think a floor seat go for the place.
[61:43]
Tom Brokaw
10.
[61:44]
Unknown Host
What?
[61:45]
Tom Brokaw
Four.
[61:45]
Unknown Host
Floor seat?
[61:47]
Tom Brokaw
No.
[61:47]
Unknown Host
20.
[61:48]
Tom Brokaw
Yeah.
[61:49]
Unknown Host
Let's see.
[61:50]
Clayton English
Floor seat at the.
[61:52]
Tom Brokaw
For Indiana and Oklahoma City is the NBA Finals.
[61:56]
Unknown Host
Yeah. I don't think they're that high, though.
[61:57]
Clayton English
The nosebleeds start at 600.
[61:59]
Unknown Host
Okay, what you think of the floor seat cost?
[62:02]
Clayton English
It gotta be a 10, y' all 20 bands.
[62:06]
Tom Brokaw
It's the NBA Finals. If it was the NBA Finals, I would be 1,000% there with you.
[62:11]
Unknown Host
Oh, y' all like 29. 29,000.
[62:16]
Clayton English
No, 9,000. Second row, second row. Joe. Give me Joe. Button seats.
[62:23]
Tom Brokaw
Joe Butt seas.
[62:24]
Unknown Host
Okay, Fat Joe. Told you, bro. You can't be in the jones, bro.
[62:28]
Clayton English
That's game one and okc.
[62:31]
Unknown Host
Oh, how much you think of Indiana? Game three courtside. They probably sold out anyway, but damn.
[62:37]
Clayton English
In the bridge, we acting like we got that. I'm just saying. It's 21.
[62:41]
Tom Brokaw
Oh, told y' all.
[62:43]
Clayton English
Wait, wait a second, wait a second. I wanna hear this other number.
[62:45]
Unknown Host
21,000 on the floor, 66,000 on the floor.
[62:48]
Clayton English
On the floor.
[62:49]
Tom Brokaw
I told y' all that 20.
[62:50]
Clayton English
Ben, the cheapest one on 21. You wanna sit next to media. Between the media and the pacers in the second row, how much was the one we got for 21,000.
[62:59]
Unknown Host
The second row.
[63:00]
Clayton English
21,000.
[63:01]
Unknown Host
Second row for one seat.
[63:03]
Clayton English
Oh, my gosh, y' all, somebody want 259,000.
[63:07]
Tom Brokaw
He is smoking crack cocaine for floor seats. Yeah. Ticketmaster will not honor that at all.
[63:14]
Clayton English
Good dope.
[63:15]
Tom Brokaw
I will go buy a new TV for every room in my fucking house before I spend $20,000 on the game ticket.
[63:20]
Unknown Host
And a car, nigga. I will take a private flight to Miami and watch the game at Prime112.
[63:25]
Clayton English
Shout out to prom.
[63:26]
Tom Brokaw
I have money to spare.
[63:27]
Clayton English
Amazing Brussels sprouts.
[63:30]
Tom Brokaw
Hey, tap in.
[63:31]
Unknown Host
Matter of fact, my boy be here with the size. My shout out to my dog, Miles. Go ahead and clip this up and put on your Instagram. You know you my dog. He always showed me love. Marlon Hotel. Yeah, that's my guy. That's my favorite restaurant of all time.
[63:44]
Clayton English
He gave my boy the big table, you know.
[63:47]
Unknown Host
Yeah, my favorite restaurant.
[63:50]
Clayton English
Roll four for 31,000.
[63:52]
Unknown Host
Yeah. I ain't going to that game.
[63:53]
Tom Brokaw
Yeah, I will buy a new car before I do that.
[63:56]
Unknown Host
All right, Pacers, man. Hey, shout out to the Timberwolves, man. They showed me love. They sending me some packages in the mail. Cuz I was representing for the squad. That was random. But I'm back with the Pacer, so Pacers do right by me.
[64:06]
Clayton English
Well, se don't look like we be pulling up.
[64:08]
Tom Brokaw
No, se got it. Tap in. We need the vibes.
[64:11]
Unknown Host
They don't throw us.
[64:12]
Tom Brokaw
They got it.
[64:13]
Unknown Host
Throw us a wash bar. Not for us.
[64:15]
Clayton English
Sponsor us a wash bar.
[64:18]
Tom Brokaw
They go to the security. That's what we should do.
[64:21]
Unknown Host
Let's have a watch. A live watch party. Well, you know, D.J. going to the game.
[64:27]
Clayton English
He ain't going to all seven of them. He ain't going to all 7 of them. He not.
[64:31]
Tom Brokaw
I am not. But game 3 and 4, so where.
[64:34]
Unknown Host
Are we having a watch party at for game one?
[64:37]
Clayton English
Game one? That motherfuckers tomorrow, which is tonight. I said we're not having a watch.
[64:41]
Unknown Host
Party for game one.
[64:42]
Tom Brokaw
Maybe game two Sunday, we'll try for the game.
[64:44]
Unknown Host
So we gonna have a game two watch party.
[64:45]
Clayton English
Game two, watch party Sunday at Jeff's house.
[64:49]
Unknown Host
No.
[64:50]
Clayton English
Oh, okay.
[64:52]
Tom Brokaw
Patreon.
[64:54]
Unknown Host
This is my old house.
[64:55]
Tom Brokaw
Yeah. You want to slide to the new 520? Pay 520.
[64:59]
Clayton English
I wish we had the pool to get one of these little buildings, though.
[65:02]
Unknown Host
We can easily. We can rent a space.
[65:05]
Clayton English
Are y' all sure? We could go to any bar, club downtown and say we want to have a watch party downtown.
[65:10]
Tom Brokaw
I don't know if we can.
[65:12]
Unknown Host
Oh, y' all.
[65:13]
Clayton English
Y' all wild Sunday day.
[65:14]
Tom Brokaw
The whites, bro. They shut down downtown for free T shirt giveaways. It was backed up for three hours.
[65:21]
Clayton English
Call Jay at All Stars right now.
[65:22]
Unknown Host
I guarantee we can have a watch party all.
[65:24]
Tom Brokaw
Oh, we.
[65:24]
Clayton English
We can turn all stars right now.
[65:26]
Tom Brokaw
Shout out to Jay.
[65:27]
Unknown Host
Egyptian. We can have a watch party.
[65:29]
Tom Brokaw
That's a filthy watch party.
[65:31]
Clayton English
Do they have TVs?
[65:32]
Unknown Host
Egyptian is literally my favorite place to go. Shout out to JJ.
[65:35]
Clayton English
They have TVs.
[65:36]
Tom Brokaw
Yeah, right there.
[65:38]
Unknown Host
You don't think we have a watch party also?
[65:39]
Tom Brokaw
We going to be Egyptian like this.
[65:41]
Clayton English
Jay. Jay would do that for us. That's what I'm saying.
[65:44]
Unknown Host
Let's go live, get our cameras, have a watch party.
[65:47]
Clayton English
Oh, yeah. I like stressing me out.
[65:49]
Unknown Host
Why not?
[65:50]
Tom Brokaw
Anytime we do content.
[65:58]
Unknown Host
I'm gonna get it done.
[65:59]
Clayton English
I'm gonna get it done anytime I say, let's take these cameras apart. This, it's a whole issue.
[66:04]
Unknown Host
Matt, what you think about what's streaming on watch Party? It's lit. I love it. We're k. Not we go buy a.
[66:11]
Clayton English
Bunch of TV in the studio.
[66:15]
Dwight Howard
Do.
[66:15]
Clayton English
It in the studio.
[66:18]
Unknown Host
It's gonna be us. We, we.
[66:19]
Clayton English
Don't be like, I'm telling y' all, we do that. Be a vibe. Culture won't open up for us.
[66:29]
Unknown Host
I can get it o experience live.
[66:37]
Tom Brokaw
A rush live.
[66:38]
Unknown Host
Can we do that within five days?
[66:40]
Clayton English
Can we do that in five days?
[66:41]
Unknown Host
Be here. Do you have the pool?
[66:43]
Clayton English
This is how you know we not. Because we're doing this live. We just been shooting from the hip all day today.
[66:47]
Unknown Host
Yeah. Oh, that's all we ever do.
[66:49]
Tom Brokaw
And we're gonna do all this. And if we don't, we lied anyway.
[66:52]
Unknown Host
Can you do it?
[66:53]
Tom Brokaw
Putting the pressure on me.
[66:56]
Unknown Host
What is the p. What is that.
[66:57]
Clayton English
Sound gonna be like?
[66:59]
Unknown Host
Sound's gonna be off.
[67:00]
Tom Brokaw
All right, but it doesn't. Have you also heard it.
[67:02]
Unknown Host
Have you heard the morning show so.
[67:04]
Tom Brokaw
We can have you heard 85 south.
[67:05]
Clayton English
Episode so we can sit up in the VIP area? Yeah, I probably can make that happen. Culture, y' all have to be serious.
[67:14]
Tom Brokaw
We ain't gonna talk no more Sunday. We'll talk more off camera.
[67:17]
Clayton English
Ain't that your birthday? I pay the fee.
[67:19]
Unknown Host
Nah, my birthday on the 10th Monday. Oh, it's my birthday on the 10th.
[67:22]
Clayton English
And it's your birthday.
[67:24]
Unknown Host
Watch Party Sunday. Pacers game two Slack culture tea party birthday party. Live stream. Turn up bot on T. It's going to be. Turn.
[67:35]
Tom Brokaw
Come on.
[67:35]
Unknown Host
It's lit.
[67:36]
Tom Brokaw
White Remy on tap all night. Tap.
[67:39]
Unknown Host
We got. We got to block off the area, though. You can't go here. We got to block off a certain area so the cameras won't ever be.
[67:45]
Clayton English
Yeah, we got to go have a real. Y got to sign a release when y' all come in too, cuz y' all gonna be on the Internet.
[67:49]
Tom Brokaw
Yeah, and we're not paying y' all facts.
[67:51]
Unknown Host
520 live stream.
[67:53]
Clayton English
520 live stream. Celebrating Jeff's birthday party. Celebrating game. That's game two.
[67:57]
Unknown Host
Game two. Game party.
[67:58]
Clayton English
Will, I'll be back Sunday.
[67:59]
Tom Brokaw
If we lose it, don't talk to me because I'm gonna get mad.
[68:01]
Unknown Host
Will you be back? You have to be back now.
[68:04]
Clayton English
I guess.
[68:08]
Unknown Host
I'll definitely be here. Nervous.
[68:10]
Tom Brokaw
Why are you nervous?
[68:14]
Clayton English
Stress. But y' all. Y' all not in this world of this.
[68:19]
Unknown Host
I started this world. I was the first club promoter here. You just threw the parties.
[68:27]
Clayton English
You didn't work him. See, he's a bastard. We g hire people.
[68:31]
Tom Brokaw
He's a real dj, G. Let's hire people fast.
[68:33]
Clayton English
I just made my parties for impromptu 520 day SL.
[68:37]
Tom Brokaw
Oh, impromptu.
[68:38]
Unknown Host
It will be wild.
[68:40]
Dwight Howard
Sponsor by boo Smoking.
[68:41]
Clayton English
I know.
[68:42]
Unknown Host
Put the mics on us.
[68:44]
Clayton English
Culture. The bar gonna be free, boy, that bar gonna go crazy.
[68:49]
Unknown Host
Live stream.
[68:50]
Tom Brokaw
We gotta talk to Uncle Joe, though.
[68:51]
Unknown Host
We got.
[68:51]
Tom Brokaw
We can't have none of the music videos while the game is on. We gonna have to cut off imc.
[68:55]
Unknown Host
It's gonna be real.
[68:56]
Tom Brokaw
Like that time it'd be playing, ain't I.
[68:59]
Unknown Host
And get your roll on beyond. Get your roll on. Be on the tv.
[69:05]
Tom Brokaw
Yeah, the same way. It's crazy, but we gonna lock it up. We with you.
[69:08]
Clayton English
All right. I. I talked to Joe. I mean, well, not Joe, but Derek and Rock. And we got your word. We about to make this happen on Sunday.
[69:15]
Unknown Host
I mean, I will if he can make it happen.
[69:17]
Clayton English
No, are you serious, bro? Cause you know it's gone. If you put it out there.
[69:22]
Tom Brokaw
They're gonna see us tomorrow.
[69:23]
Clayton English
Like, where do I. I'm saying, y' all know my crowd is. Don't watch this like that. So if we really pub this.
[69:31]
Unknown Host
I'm just saying, I don't care what the crowd is.
[69:33]
Tom Brokaw
The live Patreon first.
[69:35]
Clayton English
No, I'm talking about how many people is really about to.
[69:37]
Unknown Host
Yeah, just let them in. Uncle Joe and y' all. The bar gonna go stupid. Are we charging at the door or.
[69:42]
Clayton English
It's your birthday.
[69:43]
Unknown Host
It.
[69:44]
Clayton English
If it's your birthday party. They got body on food. They body on. I got. I gotta. I gotta. Yeah, I gotta build it for my shit. So. I mean, and All Stars, it probably worked. But coach, they love me to death. We'll figure it out. We'll have a promo flyer for y'.
[70:00]
Tom Brokaw
All by the weekend.
[70:02]
Unknown Host
This is gonna be today. And then you gotta, like this.
[70:06]
Clayton English
Lock it in tonight. We'll have it done today.
[70:10]
Unknown Host
But then you gotta. You gotta mic us, though. Yeah, everybody gotta be Mike.
[70:13]
Clayton English
Everybody be Mike's. The whole time.
[70:15]
Tom Brokaw
That has to be edited before it goes out.
[70:17]
Clayton English
Y' all gonna be Mike.
[70:18]
Unknown Host
Listen, look at me. No, we live streaming.
[70:19]
Clayton English
Everybody look at me.
[70:20]
Unknown Host
Me.
[70:20]
Clayton English
Y' all are gonna be miked the whole time. Look at me when I say that.
[70:24]
Unknown Host
But we're live streaming.
[70:25]
Tom Brokaw
That's gonna be up, right? Because I'm walking.
[70:29]
Unknown Host
It's gonna be live stream. Say cut my.
[70:34]
Clayton English
I'm gonna take that and put it in the toy. All right, now, this is my proof, y' all. Now, I do this party like I'm. I'm trying to tell them is that's gonna be a little different. Mike with his anxiety. He don't come out, he's gonna have. We gonna party. It's gonna be. I'm not gonna have time. I know. I'm not gonna have a good time.
[70:55]
Dwight Howard
He told me.
[70:56]
Clayton English
Oh, Mike's. That's my camera. Hold on. I'm saying.
[70:59]
Unknown Host
That's why we gotta. We gotta block off an area.
[71:02]
Clayton English
Okay. Because we can't have the game in the background anyway, because it's gonna get flagged. So.
[71:06]
Tom Brokaw
So we just shout out to copyright.
[71:07]
Clayton English
We just sit up in the VIP right there. Yeah, it's that big part.
[71:09]
Unknown Host
Yeah, yeah. And we just.
[71:11]
Clayton English
I just. You know, that's a hundred thousand dollars.
[71:14]
Tom Brokaw
Get her off of there.
[71:14]
Unknown Host
No, no, no. We just put that VIP right there. We live stream it. We watch up there. We had a party going it's just a. It's just a vibe.
[71:21]
Clayton English
Okay.
[71:22]
Tom Brokaw
Somebody gonna try to go viral. Y' all gonna have a tough job.
[71:24]
Clayton English
I don't think I understand how lit we are in the city, y' all.
[71:27]
Unknown Host
No, I don't know. But I just. I know this is gonna be fun.
[71:30]
Clayton English
Like which way we're gonna be live.
[71:31]
Unknown Host
If they can do streamer university, we could do streaming culture.
[71:38]
Clayton English
Okay, let's talk.
[71:39]
Tom Brokaw
I love this.
[71:40]
Clayton English
I got it. I got it.
[71:41]
Tom Brokaw
Good talk, man. Before we get out of here, we.
[71:45]
Unknown Host
Gotta have a limited amount of people come. Cuz it can't be that hot. I can't be on her.
[71:49]
Tom Brokaw
Let's see like we.
[71:51]
Unknown Host
We got the first 100, 110 or so.
[71:55]
Clayton English
It's only 77. 77 people fit in there? No, the weather. I was like, what? No, the weather said, well, that's an.
[72:03]
Tom Brokaw
Open gym in Indiana, people.
[72:04]
Clayton English
So it'll be like about close to 70. It's going to be hot, bro.
[72:09]
Tom Brokaw
We going to figure out how many.
[72:10]
Clayton English
People bring a fan.
[72:12]
Lester Holt
Come on.
[72:12]
Tom Brokaw
Literally. All right. Before we get out of here, Adam Silver talk today talking about the next All Star game is going to be world versus usa. We are tired of the All Star game and they gimmicks. But how do y' all feel about this announcement?
[72:26]
Unknown Host
The. The world. Nobody on the world ever plays hard. So USA will win for sure.
[72:31]
Clayton English
Hopefully we can sit down and talk to him one day about that. But I. I think you should go back to the og, the OG way.
[72:38]
Unknown Host
With Best east versus I wanna, I.
[72:40]
Clayton English
Wanna pick his brain on why. You know, he's smart and he helped turn the league up with the play in.
[72:45]
Tom Brokaw
Yeah.
[72:46]
Clayton English
And all that. I. With that. I just wanted to see like where his vision is really with it.
[72:51]
Tom Brokaw
I wonder if they really sick of All Star Weekend. I know it's a high revenue weekend. I know the product is down and people on it, but I wonder if they just sick of that. Like we just gotta do it because we gotta do it.
[73:02]
Clayton English
I don't want it to turn into the. With the NFL. Pro bowl used to be lit when we was kids, bro. Now it's like you don't even think about it.
[73:10]
Tom Brokaw
Yeah.
[73:11]
Unknown Host
Nobody watches the Pro Bowl.
[73:12]
Tom Brokaw
We have more fun than doing the mini games. Than do the actual games.
[73:15]
Clayton English
Yeah. So I hope the NBA. The NBA can't turn into that.
[73:18]
Unknown Host
But I think what they doing, what's making it, it's gonna make it a little better this year. They're playing it earlier. Like All Star weekend is so long. It is like all the three Point concert, all that shit. And then the All Star Game.
[73:31]
Clayton English
You gotta like 8pm right?
[73:32]
Unknown Host
Yeah. Like you kinda get world hot. Oh. Like three o' clock. Little kids can still be up watching it. Everybody. Like when I grew up, I remember Jordan and them playing early.
[73:42]
Clayton English
Yeah.
[73:43]
Unknown Host
You know what I'm saying? So it's kind of cool not to be that late.
[73:47]
Clayton English
Yeah. Cause Sunday, it ain't really nothing. You just preparing for that.
[73:50]
Unknown Host
Yeah, bro.
[73:51]
Tom Brokaw
It was sort of feeling the old jerseys, that was dope. That's one thing. Like even with the finals shout out to the Pacers, they did a crazy promo. You can pull up and get a final spatch in your jersey if you got one from this year or last. And it's only like 25. Some shit like that, that's like, that's real memorabilia. We used to love seeing players in their own jerseys in the offset game. Or even if it was an alternate, they had a dope theme. Like, man, we just got restored a feeling, man. I think it's very possible. I know it's a lot of fans that's picky and media vice versa. But man, we gotta do something, man. All Star Weekend was a beloved time for people who love basketball.
[74:20]
Unknown Host
Yeah. I don't know if the world versus the US Is gonna be a good thing. Cause the world players don't play for real. Like, Jokic is gonna be an All Star. He's never gonna play seriously.
[74:31]
Tom Brokaw
Nah.
[74:32]
Unknown Host
Shay, Gilja, Alexander not gonna play serious. Luka not gonna play serious.
[74:35]
Clayton English
You know, there's a better team though. Giannis, Luca, they're not gonna play serious.
[74:39]
Tom Brokaw
Yeah, the teams will be fired. But like you said, the effort ain't gonna be there.
[74:42]
Unknown Host
Yeah, they don't play serious at all. Like, if you go watch them in the All Star Games, they all do trick shots or just you.
[74:49]
Clayton English
But do you think it's them? You think they would try to prove a point? Like they're taking over the league, maybe literally.
[74:54]
Unknown Host
They all MVPs and I don't give a fuck.
[74:56]
Tom Brokaw
I don't got to.
[74:57]
Unknown Host
Let's think about that. They all MVPs and they all don't even give a about being MVP.
[75:02]
Clayton English
That's actually crazy. I agree.
[75:06]
Unknown Host
Like, Luke is on his way. He probably eventually get an mvp. Yeah, he don't give a about that. Jokish definitely don't. He didn't got a couple MVPs.
[75:13]
Clayton English
So you said the US wins, but it ain't gonna be a good game.
[75:15]
Tom Brokaw
Mo Joker didn't give a about the Chip, he said, all right, cool. I'm about to go play my horses. All right. I did my job.
[75:20]
Unknown Host
You don't give a damn about her.
[75:22]
Clayton English
I don't see that.
[75:25]
Unknown Host
Shay not about to play hard no fucking nah.
[75:28]
Clayton English
Cause you don't even know.
[75:28]
Unknown Host
And then I don't even think they got enough world people to, like, have a big enough roster.
[75:33]
Tom Brokaw
That was my next point. I was gonna say it's gonna be top heavy them first five seasons.
[75:37]
Unknown Host
I mean, like, Pascal will make it.
[75:39]
Tom Brokaw
Yeah. But then after that, boy, you gonna be having some stragglers in there.
[75:42]
Unknown Host
Yeah. You gonna have to start, like, og OG will fuck around, be an All Star.
[75:46]
Clayton English
Just Jamal Murray.
[75:48]
Unknown Host
Yeah, but like.
[75:49]
Tom Brokaw
But then you look at last year, they had G league players in it, so I guess it can't get no worse than that in respect to them. They h. Of course.
[75:55]
Unknown Host
But I ain't gonna lie. That was our weekend. Been kind of mid, bro.
[75:59]
Clayton English
I ain't gonna lie.
[76:00]
Tom Brokaw
San Fran was mid.
[76:01]
Clayton English
That was.
[76:01]
Tom Brokaw
It was mid.
[76:02]
Clayton English
Mid was one of the worst. That was one of the worst.
[76:05]
Unknown Host
Yeah. That was a bad All Star shot, man.
[76:07]
Tom Brokaw
They gonna bounce back. I got faith in the league, man.
[76:08]
Unknown Host
If not, the All Star game was like, 2015.
[76:13]
Clayton English
No, that one was mid. I say 20.
[76:19]
Tom Brokaw
I love his immediate response. Like, nah, that was mid. My nick was. Nah.
[76:23]
Clayton English
That wasn't even.
[76:24]
Unknown Host
Nah.
[76:25]
Clayton English
Cause that. That weekend was really. That wasn't pressure.
[76:28]
Unknown Host
It was. I say it was. In New York, the dunk contest was amazing.
[76:33]
Tom Brokaw
Was Toronto after that? The last Kobe1?
[76:36]
Unknown Host
The 2015? I think the All Star Game was Aaron.
[76:39]
Clayton English
Yeah. What's the last. Kobe was 18.
[76:41]
Tom Brokaw
Yeah. What was the Kobe. Kobe's last All Star game?
[76:44]
Lester Holt
I don't remember.
[76:45]
Tom Brokaw
That was probably the last super lit one.
[76:48]
Unknown Host
What was the dunk contest in 2015? Cause I think that's. I know Zach Lavine was in it.
[76:52]
Clayton English
Kobe's last All Star game was 2016.
[76:54]
Unknown Host
Yeah, that's what I thought.
[76:55]
Tom Brokaw
16. Toronto.
[76:56]
Clayton English
Okay. 16.
[76:56]
Tom Brokaw
That was Zach Levine versus Aaron Gordon. 15.
[77:00]
Unknown Host
Nah, I wasn't at that. I think that was 16 or 14.
[77:05]
Clayton English
Zach Levine, Aaron Gordon.
[77:07]
Unknown Host
That was 16.
[77:08]
Clayton English
2016.
[77:09]
Unknown Host
Yeah. That was crazy.
[77:10]
Tom Brokaw
Elite.
[77:11]
Clayton English
That was one of the ones, man. That game was pretty good, too.
[77:14]
Unknown Host
That's probably the best.
[77:15]
Clayton English
Austin. That's when he went over the mascot.
[77:17]
Unknown Host
That's the best All Star week.
[77:18]
Tom Brokaw
Yeah. One of the best known concerts.
[77:19]
Unknown Host
The last. Last. That's the last good All Star weekend for sure, man.
[77:22]
Tom Brokaw
All right, man. We got. We got to have back in NBA. Do what y got to do, man. Make all our weekend great again for sure. All right, man. We appreciate y' all. Before we get out of here, be here and tell the people they can grab some merch.
[77:31]
Clayton English
Shopclub520.com Baby, come on.
[77:33]
Tom Brokaw
You know the vibe. Shout out to Boost Mobile. We appreciate y' all. $25 unlimited nationwide.
[77:39]
Clayton English
Three months. 15.
[77:42]
Tom Brokaw
You know you got that 15 and you got that 25 for show nationwide.
[77:45]
Unknown Host
Oh, that mean when we have our field day, it's actually only going to be $15 for us.
[77:50]
Clayton English
Yeah, technically I wasn't going to tell them that, but right when we have.
[77:55]
Unknown Host
Our field day, matter of fact, pull up. We got the 15 for you, but the rest of the month, good luck.
[77:59]
Tom Brokaw
Yeah, yeah. We going to start you off, but the rest on you game.
[78:02]
Clayton English
You sign up, we got.
[78:03]
Unknown Host
You might have to bring your own.
[78:05]
Clayton English
Phone and be hand. Not Mike. You definitely have to bring your own. And Mike is set your play up right there. Little polo. I'll put the SIM chip being myself.
[78:14]
Tom Brokaw
Michael be at the stand.
[78:15]
Dwight Howard
Yep.
[78:15]
Tom Brokaw
With the orange polo.
[78:17]
Clayton English
With the iPad for sure.
[78:18]
Tom Brokaw
The Boost mobile iPad.
[78:21]
Clayton English
Boost mobile iPad. Signing contracts for sure.
[78:24]
Tom Brokaw
360 deals. Read the five print. We appreciate y' all. We be back next time. Club 520, the volume.
[78:36]
Lester Holt
I know a lot of cops. They get asked all the time, have you ever had to shoot your gun? Sometimes the answer is yes. But there's a company dedicated to a future where the answer will always be no. This is Absolute season one, Taser Incorporated. I get right back there and it's bad. Listen to Absolute Season 1, Taser Incorporated on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
[79:06]
Clayton English
I'm Clayton English.
[79:07]
Lester Holt
I'm Greg Lodd.
[79:08]
Clayton English
And this is season two of the War on Drugs podcast.
[79:11]
Lester Holt
Last year, a lot of the problems of the drug war. This year, a lot of the biggest names in music and sports.
[79:17]
Clayton English
This is kind of star studded a little bit, man.
[79:19]
Lester Holt
We met them at their homes. We met them at the recording studios. Stories matter and it brings a face to it.
[79:25]
Clayton English
It makes it real.
[79:26]
Lester Holt
It really does. It makes it real.
[79:28]
Clayton English
Listen to new episodes of the War on Drugs Podcast Season 2 on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast.
[79:36]
Lester Holt
I'm Michael Casson, founder and CEO of 3C Ventures and your guide on Good Company, the podcast where I sit down with the boldest innovators shaping what's next. In this episode, I'm joined by Angelique Sood, CEO of Tubi. We dive into the competitive world of streaming. What others dismiss as niche, we embrace as core. There's so many stories out there and if you can find a way to curate and help the right person discover the right content, the term that we always hear from our audience is that they feel seen. Listen to Good company on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast guests. Hi, I'm Sarah Spain, host of Good Game with Sarah Spain and the co author of the new book Runs in the Family, an incredible true story of football, fatherhood and belonging, written with and about Las Vegas Raiders running backs coach D. McCullough. It's the story of a football coach and father of four who sees his life forever changed by the unsealing of his adoption record. And it's got a twist you won't believe. Based on the viral ESPN story I did a few years ago, this book will blow your mind and bring you to tears by Runs in the Family wherever books are sold.
[80:49]
Unknown Host
This is an I heart podcast.