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Bill Bellamy
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Bill Bellamy
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DJ Wells
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Bill Bellamy
Yeah, I'm going tomorrow to get mine, man. It's time. I need to upgrade immediately, man. Tap in.
DJ Wells
Come on. Yeah, they'll pull up to your crib. You don't even got to do nothing. You ain't got to go tap in with the. The. The stores or whatever. They'll have the phone come to your crib. Boost Mobile pull up to your crib and you get everything situated for you.
Bill Bellamy
Boost Mobile. Is Boost Mobile for real?
DJ Wells
Yeah, it's mobile. They getting active. Listen, man, everybody, they pulling up.
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Bill Bellamy
Ain't no way they pulling up.
DJ Wells
Boost Mobile. Pulling.
Bill Bellamy
Setting up my service on my new iPhone 17 at the crib.
DJ Wells
You ain't gotta leave, man. Come on, off the couch with it. Listen, doorstep sir. C code, you know what I'm saying? When you get a new phone, the worst part is transferring your contacts, your pictures and messages. All that. You ain't even gotta do all that. They gonna handle that for you. Just tap in. Listen, man, the most powerful iPhone ever. IPhone 17, Boost Mobile got you in. They gotta leave the crib. They gonna bring your phone, transfer, refer you, man. What's the excuse not to get a behen?
Bill Bellamy
Ain't no excuses. Especially they pulling up to your door. Would I never know other providers ever did that.
DJ Wells
Come on, man. Doorstep service.
Bill Bellamy
Wow, that's definitely new, man. Damn, it's tight.
DJ Wells
Yeah. Shout out to Boost Mobile, man.
Bill Bellamy
All right, man.
DJ Wells
We back another episode of Club 520 podcast. I'm your host. My name is DJ Wells. Brought to you by Boost Mobile. You know the vibes. Get you your loved one. That new iPhone 17, they'll pull up to your crib and handle the rest. And Bill, gotta ask you a question before I introduce you. Did you have a Boost Mobile back in the day? Did you have that chirp.
Bill Bellamy
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I had it. I think I had every kind of trap phone. No, for real? For real. Cause back then, that Boost Mobile joint was hot. We had the Startech joint. We had the. Remember the one that you turn Sidekicks. The Sidekicks? Is that. Am I telling my age? No, no, we had Sidekicks. Yeah. The Sidekick was really the first iPhone. Oh, God, it was. Yeah. Cause Cass was in the hood like, hey, man, wait till I turn this motherfucker, though. That shit was fun as hell.
DJ Wells
Hey, man, that's the boss man. Shout out to the good people over here at Boost Mobile. Also shout out to Hard Rock Batman, official sponsor of Club 520 and 520 in the morning.
Bill Bellamy
Shout out.
DJ Wells
I got to be him. And he got this thing called a crash out parlay. So he either going, you know, saying, make the household cool, okay? Or everybody going to have to move out, man.
Bill Bellamy
Oh, Lord. Yeah, it got. It got ugly in 2025.
DJ Wells
Yeah.
Bill Bellamy
Man, you know he r some people.
DJ Wells
Christmas.
Bill Bellamy
Wash all that away, man. Good.
DJ Wells
We good.
Bill Bellamy
We ready to start fresh, though. Yeah, we ready to start fresh. New year, New year, new me. New year, new me. Okay. All right. I'll pray for you.
DJ Wells
Shout out to the last man. Shout out to StockX. Keeping us fresh in the set as well, man. We got a special guest in the building, but you know how it goes. Introducing Blast to my far left. We got my dog Bishop B. Heading out the prairies. How you at, Nasty?
Bill Bellamy
Chatting, man. Glad to be here today. We gotta. It's gonna be a good one.
DJ Wells
Yeah, we got a legend on the show now. Listen, this is. You know what I'm saying? He's our resident chef in the building. You know, we always criticize my man Jeff about his food takes and the stuff that he decides to do in, like, nice establishments. He puts ketchup on steak. And he's been finding some support out here. We want to see. How do you feel about that?
Bill Bellamy
Obviously, you've been around. No, it's very hood. I see where JT coming from. You know what I'm saying? Cause ketchup, really? And it's gotta be Heinz. I ain't never been a Hunt's cat, you know what I'm saying? Hans, go with everything, bro. So, like, I'm trying to peep game, like. Okay. If he in a nice restaurant. You gotta hide it, though. Is he full throttle? Bring him the bottom. Oh, damn. From the bottom.
DJ Wells
It can't be an ass.
Bill Bellamy
Can I get a place in LA like you in LA? You at steak 48? You actually get some ketchup?
DJ Wells
Yeah, I just like. I get ketchup.
Bill Bellamy
And you ain't got no fries, no wedge. Okay, Just. Okay, so he ain't just all the way pricing.
DJ Wells
He's lying.
Bill Bellamy
He lying, bro.
DJ Wells
Give me a little side of ketchup.
Bill Bellamy
So do you. Do you. Do you get steak sauce at all? Do you do? Because I don't like, like, Honestly, I like A1.
DJ Wells
No top tier. I get it every. Now I got it. Like one time we went out.
Bill Bellamy
You don't do. You don't do the highest 57 joint.
DJ Wells
Oh.
Bill Bellamy
Cause that one. That one's got a different taste. Like it ain't. That's a little bit more tangy.
DJ Wells
No, no, I like that.
Bill Bellamy
Yeah. He just won't catch it.
DJ Wells
I just want to catch it.
Bill Bellamy
Yeah. He gonna keep his section 8.
DJ Wells
Still to my right. My dog Young Nacho. Young Tig. How you what? I'm good, man. They talking about the ketchup already. It's gonna be a legendary pie, man. We got a legend in the building, man.
Richard Sherman
Thank you, man.
Bill Bellamy
I appreciate you.
DJ Wells
Come on, man. Like we said, man. Legend in the building, man. He's been around our entire lives. Entertainers. Thank you, man. Movies, TV, comedy. We got the one and only Mr. Bill Bellamy in the building. Big Dog. We appreciate you, Slide, man.
Bill Bellamy
I'm excited to be here with y', all, man. I like what y' all doing that they don't tell y', all, like, where the podcast is, though. See, that's the thing that's scary about, like, these podcasts. Cause you think everyone is gonna be in this high rise building. Like, when you come to. You gotta want to come to y'. All. Cause when you roll up, it look like an episode of bmf. Yo, what season, though? Yo, it' the streets is lit right now. So when it. Cause the funny part, when we pulled up, I was like. When we turned the corner, I was like, I don't think they here because this is a slash. It looked like the joint where you drop off the keys and you roll. Oh, God.
DJ Wells
But.
Bill Bellamy
But when you come inside, it's souvenir. I'm just joking.
DJ Wells
I'm just joking.
Bill Bellamy
Collision repair building for sure.
DJ Wells
Your first house.
Bill Bellamy
Hit your best house. Right, right, right. Y' all on your way up. I feel you.
DJ Wells
I feel you for sure. Appreciate you pulling up, man. We got so much to talk about. Let's get straight to it, man. You a Hooper man.
Bill Bellamy
Yes, sir.
DJ Wells
Now I got right here be here. You know what I'm saying? He been going around playing a lot of celebrity podcasts and shout out to top billing. You do y' all thing. Y' all trying to jump into space, man. What's going on? We got three on three, into two on two.
Bill Bellamy
Listen, listen. Like, I'm still hooping relatively good. Like, I ain't. I ain't really explosive like I used to be. Like, if I cross you one or two times, I ain't got no more left. Cause I just don't have this pop pop. I used to have the pop pop. Ha. Now, ha. And then I go sit down, like, you know what I'm saying? Now I'm jump shot. I'm mid range, you know what I'm saying? I'm keeping it simple. Cause like, unless I play with cats that really hoop, I be nervous at these LA fitnesses and stuff. Cause it's always like them three, four dudes that ain't never played organized basketball nowhere. They run into you, they Undercut you, they run right into you with they whole head.
DJ Wells
That's a fact.
Bill Bellamy
You gotta play like, kind of like safety wise, you know what I mean?
DJ Wells
Without making a car.
Bill Bellamy
Yeah, yeah, yeah. I want to get out. I want the cardio at this point. But like before COVID it used to be official in la. I used to play up at Santa Monica College on Sundays when I wasn't working. And Baron Davis would be up there.
DJ Wells
About to be there.
Bill Bellamy
Paul Pierce, I seen him up there a couple times back in. Who else was up there? Crazy. What's my man? He always smiling, man. He played for the Lakers. He got in trouble. He was dating. He was dating Izzy. Izzy. Nick Young, Swaggy P. Swaggy P. I love Swaggy P. He talks so much trash. I love Swaggy P. He always smiling while he talking trash.
DJ Wells
Facts. That's a wild hoop session. Bd Paul Pierce, Nick Young and a.
Bill Bellamy
Few gang members mixed in. They hoop like it was used to be live hoops, man. And if you lose, you be mad. Cause they had the three courts. So like you trying to make it to the middle court. And if you lose, you. Oh my God, you be way. You might have to wait like five, six games. That's how good it was. Who the best celebrity that you done seen? Who that can. Who. All your years in this. You about what, 30 years in this space? I'm about 30 years in this space.
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Bill Bellamy
I'm gonna tell you right now, right now, off the top, Chris Brown.
DJ Wells
Okay.
Bill Bellamy
I would say breezy. Cause I would say Breezy is probably one of the most athletic guys that I didn't know was that athletic. Like when we. We used to play the Entertainment League in la.
Lenovo Advertiser
Yeah.
Bill Bellamy
And. And he was playing and he was really good. Him Flex. What about Tank? Tank? Tank. Tank can actually play, but he play football, basketball. He used all his fouls in the first quarter. Oh, yeah. Oh, my God. Be fouling the out you. And then he'll sing you. Sing to you. So it's weird. No, but for real, take and play. Who else I played with, that was pretty good. That shocked me. Jaleel White.
DJ Wells
Okay.
Bill Bellamy
He said he could. Yeah, he could play. Yeah, Jaleel can play.
DJ Wells
All right. Who winning between you and him?
Bill Bellamy
Me and Jaleel, we've had some really good battles. It just depends. Now I kill him, but a couple, couple games he caught me slipping. Like Jaleel is tricky because he's like. He's kind of like unexpected quick, you know what I mean? Because he could get by you real quick and whatever. He not jumping over, you know, but he got. He got speed, like. And he know how to get to the cup. So I give him respect, you know what I'm saying?
DJ Wells
That's all growing up in Jersey, you know what I'm saying? Rutgers, man.
Bill Bellamy
Yes.
DJ Wells
Some of your favorite Hoopers growing up, or. You know what I'm saying? Are you tapped in with Rutgers basketball at all?
Bill Bellamy
Yes, yes, yes. So I gotta take you back. So y' all was probably, like, in third grade then, but some of the best Rutgers players that. When I was at school, we had John Battle. John Battle was a guard that made it to the NBA. Roy Henson, he.
DJ Wells
I know Roy. He worked at the NBA for a long time.
Bill Bellamy
He played. Did he play in Atlanta?
DJ Wells
Yep.
Bill Bellamy
Yeah, I think so. I don't know why that popped in my head. Let me see. Anybody else made it to the league? Not in basketball, but in football? We had Ray Rice. Yeah, we had Ray Rice and maybe another other football player that made it, but not many guys that I knew during my span made it. But I played with a lot of great street ball players.
DJ Wells
Okay.
Bill Bellamy
You know what I'm saying? Back in the day, like, when I first came to the game in the early 90s, it was nothing to play, not to play in the summer league. If you could hoop, you could get on the team. That was a big deal in the east coast. Summer leagues was big. So if you knew somebody or you hooped, you could probably get on a team and pick, like, you know, coming off the bench or whatever. But you could play, you know, I mean, they would let, like, cats that they knew play. But one of the best street Hoopers I ever seen in my life outside of Skip to my Lou guard wise, was this dude named Ali Mo.
DJ Wells
Oh, yeah.
Bill Bellamy
I never seen nothing like that in my life. He was 6, 8, blue, black. Oh, God. He had everything. I mean, it was like. Let me give you, like, 92, 93. I will never forget this, bro. He might have shot. He might have went 15 for 15. Like, it was just unbelievable. He was going on every way. Pullback floater from the three going through Duncan. I was just like, yo, he's unguardable. Like, it was a show in a show, and he was doing, like, moves that you ain't seen before. Yeah, like. Like he was doing Euros then. And we didn't even know what to call it. Like, he was doing tricky street shit. Did he travel? We was like, yo, yo, he was one of them. Oh. Oh, that's a new York legend, for sure. Yeah, he was here, bro. You definitely watch basketball. I remember playing in a game with. With Skip, right? And everybody. This is. We had no. Back then, you know, we had the team up. You know, we had the little trap phones and shit. So it wasn't no Internet and shit. But In New York, Cas was talking about Skip. They was like, yo, man, don't look at him. Don't look at his waist. You can't guard him. He got it on a string. And you was like, what? They was like, yo, I swear to God, bro, if you look at him, he gonna put you on the ground. Oh, my God, bro. I was trying to guard this dude. It was like I was. Bro, I went on everything. I was over here. I was over there. I was like, yo, man, go get him, bro. Hey, yo, my man, go get him. You know what? That's when you know you can't gu. Hey, my man, I'm good. You played him at Rucker? We played at. It was in New York. It used to be so many great celebrity, like Summer League Jones. It was really an interesting time in the early 90s, because the Rucker was must do. But all the pros was there. Like, you couldn't play at the Rucker unless you was a pro. I never played at no Rucker like that. But the Rucker was dope to go to. Did you ever go to the Rucker? Nah, I never was able to make it. Like we go, like, when we visit. But I wanted to ask. You wanted to see somebody push.
DJ Wells
I wanted to go see a live matchups.
Bill Bellamy
I want to hear Duke on the mic talking shit. Everybody was coming through the ruck. Did you do it?
DJ Wells
Nah, I ain't play at the Ruck.
Bill Bellamy
You ain't never want to?
DJ Wells
Yeah, I played at Dykmann. I ain't playing at the Rucker.
Bill Bellamy
Well, Dyckman is dope, too, though. It's the same thing. But the Rucker was just more of a, you know, a New York kind of, like, historic thing, like from when Kobe put up crazy numbers. KD came through like every. Everybody who was. Did Brian ever do it?
DJ Wells
She was supposed to play that Blackout game.
Bill Bellamy
He was supposed to do the Fat Joe versus Jay Z. But something happened. Like you said, Fat Joe, Jay Z. See that? That was the kind of era we was in where it was like, ballers, guys who were like good hoopers with pros. And I used to play in a lot of them. I remember one of my favorite games. I don't know why you making Me think of this. One of my favorite games I ever played with pros was we played at University of Maryland. Penny was in the league. Larry Johnson was in the league. Scottie Pippen was playing. Yo, this is. Let me tell you how crazy you out there. What the hell? This is how crazy it was. Cause you could play in the summer league back then. The pros didn't have no restrictions. And I played in the game where Larry Johnson hurt his back.
DJ Wells
Damn.
Bill Bellamy
Yo, he took off. You know how freakishly athletic Larry Johnson was. Grandmama was the first LeBron, okay? Oh, think about size, athleticism. I mean, he was probably one of the most athletic three fours at that time.
DJ Wells
I get a lot of Zion comparisons for him.
Bill Bellamy
For Larry Johnson, I could see that. But I'm just saying, like, when have you ever seen another athletic Larry Johnson? Especially back then. Hell, no. Let me tell you, it was so crazy, right? Penny was coming down, you know, And Penny was really nice. Tricky looking off alleys, you know. He was like, to me, a baby magic. So Penny came down, Boom, boom, boom. Did some real quick cute shit and just threw it like this. LJ came baseline, but it was a little behind him. He caught it and still made it bow. And then he just went down. And everybody's like, oh, shit. He was rolling around and that's. He never been the same. I remember the game. And that's when they stopped letting him play.
DJ Wells
Damn, damn, damn.
Bill Bellamy
If it ever come up, he'll remember. Damn, dog, you sure did. True story. I'm keeping it real. Keeping it real.
DJ Wells
We'll have some fun tonight. Barbie at work tonight.
Bill Bellamy
Be here. Where you at, B? Pull up. I need a drink.
Richard Sherman
Hello.
Bill Bellamy
Hello. Oh, God damn. This for breakfast? Yeah. What y' all having?
DJ Wells
What we got today?
Bill Bellamy
Old Fashioned.
DJ Wells
Okay.
Bill Bellamy
We gotta act like prestigious. Me. Okay, okay. We grown.
DJ Wells
Yeah. Steak on. Catch up. You know what I'm saying? We still drink Old Fashioned around here for sure. The building, the show. We like to play a lot of unnecessary videos on here. Okay, since you're here, we gotta have tradition. Go ahead, load the first one. Shout out to my guy, Jermaine Jackson. He is a. Well, we can start there. Jermaine Jackson is a constant topic on this show. Shout out to our guy Kevin on stage. Now, being here, he had us. This is a little clip by his hair. And we found out that apparently his hair on the side is not paint, it is his fro.
Bill Bellamy
You know this.
DJ Wells
Let's go ahead and play the clip for more content.
Bill Bellamy
I can't. I can't. Take it. You can't help. It's so crazy.
DJ Wells
You could be giving us tonight's lotto numbers. The password to Sally Mace.
Bill Bellamy
How's he keeping a straight face? How do we look up? How old? He said he got to be 70.
DJ Wells
You think he's 70?
Bill Bellamy
I' ma say 71, 50 something, man. I don't know. I'm gonna say 71.
DJ Wells
We got. I'm going 70. 71.
Bill Bellamy
All right.
DJ Wells
Yeah.
Bill Bellamy
Oh, I just threw that off the head.
DJ Wells
So he said the side of his hair be. Hint. It's not paint. It's his fro. Just let it down.
Bill Bellamy
It looked like the stuff do your roof with. Oh, God. You know. You know, like when you get a leak and you don't want to pay the roofer, you go get. But you gotta heat it. You know, that's what it look like. You know, like, they be like, yo, Jermaine, we gotta the roof leak. Or go up there and he'll just lay his head on there. That's what I'm talking about. That right there, you gotta heat that up. It'll seal it. Hey, and you got to put the mop. You got to use a wet mop. Somebody here do construction. He know exactly what I'm talking about.
DJ Wells
How big is the bucket?
Bill Bellamy
I think what he do is whenever they. I think whenever there's a construction site and they doing it, he just go see that bucket and put his head in there. And then we get in the car, he just lay it down.
DJ Wells
And it's a ponytail in the back.
Bill Bellamy
Yeah, he got a ponytail.
Lenovo Advertiser
Oh, yeah.
Bill Bellamy
I thought it was just smooth all around playing with me. If he ever came to my comedy show, I got a whole hour. I will tag his ass up. You can never go to a comedy club with that hair. Hey, look. Hell no. He got a little weight. I don't understand the front, though. That's different. He cut that out. It's a tunnel.
DJ Wells
Yeah, stupid. Now, Barbie, I don't know if you're in the sugar daddies, but if your sugar daddy had that.
Bill Bellamy
If your sugar daddy look like that, he better be taking care of you, like, completely. That got to be like, you know what, girl? I'm just. I'm a ride it out. He got three more years. That's it. Yeah, I can do three.
DJ Wells
I can do three.
Bill Bellamy
I'll put a ponytail in four. Oh, you don't put your pouring. Let's see when you.
DJ Wells
Beautiful hair, yo.
Bill Bellamy
But the thing that it's so interesting is like, you know, and, you know, this Shit, you know, being in league and shit. Some people just so eccentric, right? I'm like, deebo Samuels, throw me off. Debo Samuels is so talented, right? But his gear be killing me. I don't never know which angle he went. Yeah, he. Debo bugged out with it. You know what I'm saying? I be like, where is he going? He looked like he just got out of baby oil tub with. He got chains on and lip gloss, all kinds of. But, but. But he.
DJ Wells
But.
Bill Bellamy
But he got baller, though.
DJ Wells
Yeah, yeah. Hey, that's crazy. You pulled that pickup, yo.
Bill Bellamy
I did. I did a. You look at that. Look at it. Depot don't care about that. Was out of pocket. This one right here with the thigh meat out. Yeah, that was. And the little black socks and whatever he was on his Uzi verb. Shit. Listen, it looked like people scared to say stuff. Yeah, yeah. Cause he looked like he bite.
DJ Wells
Deep of nature.
Bill Bellamy
Aaron, you can't kill, baby. Oh, man. No, I was just playing deep. How much does that take into your show, though? Like, crowd engagement. I love that shit, bro. That's what people want to hear. Like, comedians, we just want to be in the moment. Like, I got scripted shit that's really, really funny. But I love just being off the rip with it where, you know, I'm just thinking fast, you know? And that's the beauty of repetition, of being. Doing a lot of shows and stuff like that. But if Jermaine Jackson or Debo ever come to my show, stay in the. Say, how far back do you go? Like, you mean hard? Like. No, I'm saying, like, if you on stage, like, are you in that? Well, if I can see you. Yeah, it has to be. It has to be natural. Like, for instance, like, if I see it and I think it, I gotta say it. Like, that's just, you know, that's a rule. You know what I'm saying?
DJ Wells
Y' all both dangerous, man.
Bill Bellamy
Yo, you like that, too? Yeah. Ross say whatever. Yeah, that's what. But people love that about you. That's why Charles Barkley so damn funny. Like, he be saying stuff on tv. Be like, what? But it be funny. Cause it's so honest. And I think the best comedian. People do that. Yeah.
DJ Wells
Now, Barb, want to ask you this. Would you go front row on your first date to a comedy show?
Bill Bellamy
Would I. Yeah. Depending on who I'm with. It depends on. And it depends on how you dress, too. If you look nice, nine times out of 10, you're not gonna get hit. But if you Think. Think back when DEF Jam came out. Martin was wearing out. And if you had an outfit that was real crazy, Martin going right there, and that makes it funny. The greatest of that. Yo, he's the greatest of that. Martin didn't even have to do his set. Yeah, he was tearing. Motherfuckers. I used to love that about Martin. Boy, that's. Yo, that's them there. Yo, that's my class.
DJ Wells
Yeah.
Bill Bellamy
Yeah, that's my class. That's crazy. Jamie in there, too. Jamie. Yeah, I was on. I was on Joe and Jada, and I said, yo, we really actually got the best comedy class ever, bro.
DJ Wells
I agree.
Bill Bellamy
Like, we probably 40 deep. We probably 40 deep in talent. Like, if you want to go through the lineup, it's crazy. You just said, we got Dave, we got Chris, we got Sid, we got DL we got Chris Tucker, DL Hughley. But you see what I'm saying. And I'm Eddie Griffin, Steve Harvey.
DJ Wells
That's basically everybody in college that you grew up with.
Bill Bellamy
That's definitely. Yeah, that's like Bernie Mac when y' all were shorties, when we was doing. And we were all. And here's the dopest thing about it. For the cats that you know. Bruce, Bruce. And I'm just rattling names, it was the first time we ever got a chance to be TV stars. Think about it. Like, they was making sitcoms back then. That's true. So look at all of us got shows. Like, I had a big deal at NBC. I was on the wb. Sid and Steve was on the wb. Jamie Wyndham was on Fox. Who else had a show back then?
DJ Wells
Sid Martin. Steve Harvey.
Bill Bellamy
Martin was on Fox as well.
DJ Wells
Steve Harvey's.
Bill Bellamy
Damn, I'm throwing a blank. Eddie Griffin had a show with Flex. They did. Sure did. Homeboys in Space. No, it wasn't. Yeah, yeah. So, like, there were a lot of opportunities that we got from being very funny.
DJ Wells
You know what? That's interesting you said that, because we talk about it on here all the time. Like, we don't have those same sitcoms like, you used to have those spaces.
Bill Bellamy
It's like, look forward to it.
DJ Wells
Yeah. Like, you got Mikey Epps, you got this thing on Netflix. But, like, is there a possibility that return it or that have changed? They just look in a different direction now.
Bill Bellamy
No, I think we could do it now because we want to see us.
DJ Wells
Yeah.
Bill Bellamy
You know, that's why platforms like Tubi are doing really well, in my opinion, because no matter whether it's good or bad, we still want to see us. If we were to put up good content, good shows. That's why podcasts are really good, because people want to see us being funny and authentically us. So if we were to put up a great show, go on any platform, people will watch it? I think so. I would watch it. I'm looking for. I'm watching reruns and that's all I do. Yeah, I watch reruns.
DJ Wells
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DJ Wells
I gotta show that I can't remember exactly what it's called. Was on Envy, mtv. Rock and Jock. That's what it was. That was my man.
Bill Bellamy
How old were you when you was.
DJ Wells
Watching, man, I had to.
Bill Bellamy
What year was that? From 92. From like 90, 91. So right from 90. I was on MTV from 91 to 98. Right. So we were doing it every year, and it got bigger and bigger. And this is why I love the 90s. It was so dope because I got a chance to meet some of my favorite heroes, you know? You know, I played ball with GP Yeah. Kevin Garnett was fresh in the league. Derek Jeter, Alex Rodriguez, also the kid that played baseball, Ken Griffey Jr. Shout.
DJ Wells
Out to swing, man.
Bill Bellamy
It's like, who else played that was in the league? Is that Brian McKnight up there? Brian McKnight. You see me there? Who's in the middle right there?
DJ Wells
Is that Christmas? I want to be famous. Right here.
Bill Bellamy
That's when you wanted to be famous? I wanted to do that because it was silly. What was dope about rock and jock? It was kind of silly, but we was actually playing, and it was actually a celebrity game. But we had all them bullshit baskets. Did you remember? That's what made it fun. Like, Gary, pay to this day, got the most points ever. I think he got.
DJ Wells
Yeah.
Bill Bellamy
Remember he had like 175 points. Yo, he figured out how to get the 50. The 50 was way.
DJ Wells
He kept on it way up.
Bill Bellamy
And he did the 50 and it fell into 25.
DJ Wells
I. I was like, I want to get on this game so bad. I was like, six or seven.
Bill Bellamy
That's dope. You remember that, though? It was fun. That was a fun era.
DJ Wells
Real celebrity. But speaking of basketball. Go ahead, load it up, man. My boy Scott Van Pill almost started here off real tragic right here.
Bill Bellamy
What happened?
DJ Wells
What is this? They show two. Two guys.
Bill Bellamy
He said, come on, bro. He said he caught himself. God is good. The camera's rolling. He almost crashed out. He said, what? It is love. Love is everything. I ain't never seen that before. When that happened, it just happened. Wow. They just gonna let it happen? Okay. Let it ride.
DJ Wells
You got to love you with love. I was gonna ask, obviously, you've been doing comedy for so long, has the guidelines kind of changed with sensitivity towards things a little bit different?
Bill Bellamy
See what he said? Are you crazy? We can't say nothing. Yeah, Bernie Mac wouldn't have made it. Bernie Mac wouldn't have made it in. What the hell going on? Bernie would have crashed after boys had acquired the gyms. Okay. Happy New Year, Birdie. Would have crashed. I remember the first time. This is so funny. I'm gonna do it in a comedic way because it was the first time I ever seen it before. Right? Yeah. So I forget. It was the NFL draft. And I think his name's Mike Sam missed the sec. Everything Worldwide. He was like. He was. He was everything. Yes, right? So I was like, yo. Because I don't. You know, I don't know anything. So I'm like, I love. I love sports. I love football, basketball, whatever. So I'm like, yo, my man Sec, he's moving like that. That's. Dude, it's crazy. So I'm like. So I'm, like, invested in him. So I'm like this. I'm like, yo, I'm watching it. I'm like, yo, I know he gonna go big. Cause I was watching him kill. He was like a baby Lawrence Taylor, right? So I was like, dang, man. This dude, Mike Sam, boy, this dude right here, I know he going, top five, blah, blah, blah, right? So I'm watching the draft, and I had to say, I'm sorry. Do you see? No, I'm being honest. It's so funny right there. It did. Cause it just caught me off guard. So, you know, you don't expect that on dead ass. So we at the crib, you know, when we drinking and stuff. And then, because I always watch the draft, you know, I'm keeping it 1,000, right? So I'm like, oh, man. I know. My man Mike said, went pour some of this, man. I know Sam about to get it. I know he going, top five, drinking and stuff. And they say, give it up for Mike Sam. Nah, nah, nah. And then my man turned. I said, where you going? Then he kissed my man in the mouth with the cake. I said, Times have changed. I was like, okay, you know what? You just gotta say congratulations. Now, speaking about that, we can get off of it. But you and Jamie Foxx had a moment like that on the episode, man. Oh, yeah. Yo, yo, yo. Yeah, we did. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You remember I had the big toe. Oh, God. He was that coming to play. But see, that's the thing that I love about the 90s in that era. We could joke about stuff and not. Not be offensive, but we could joke about. You know, we pushed the line a little bit. Not so crazy. But now if you were to do that same thing on tv, man. They might cancel your show. I don't think that's fair. I feel like we should be able to laugh and, like, you know, as long as we not being disrespectful. You feel me? Like, we know. You know, we know what we dealing with. But I'm saying, like, in a respectful way. Humor is humor. Everybody should be laughing, bro. Like, on some real funny shit. Like, why is people like, oh, like, I did a joke one time, I said. And I put this up. I was like, yo, man, whatever was wrong with you back in the day used to be your nickname. Like, think back when you was a kid and you was in the hood to be like, yo, you know, Cross side Larry, man, I ain't seen him. He all right. It used to be whatever's wrong with you. Yo, Club Foot Willie. Yo, he can't play today. Oh, okay. Ms. Willie. Willie not coming out now. His foot. His foot so wrong. His foot today. Like, you know what I mean? Remember Bowleg and Shirley? Whatever your. And then we used to say midgets. You can't say that now. You gotta say little people. Yeah, and I had a funny situation, right, with this little person. Listen, I wanna say midget so bad, but I shouldn't be drinking. So, listen, I'm in a club, right? And I keep hearing a voice. So you know how the bar is. Like, we tall guys. So the bar is probably hitting us, like, mid right here, right? So I'm up here, it's loud, it's a lot of people. And I hear a voice say, help. I was like, what the fuck going on, man? You hear that? And I'm like, yo, my man, can you help me? And I looked down. This is a little midget lady. She said, I've been down here trying to get a drink. I said, are you serious? You've been right there. That was you? She was like, yeah. I was saying, help. I was like, you know, can you tell the bartender I need a drink? So I picked her up and put her on the counter, like. And she said, thank you. Everybody busted out laughing. But that was just me being a comedian in the moment. Cause I was like, if you stay down, ain't nobody gonna see you. I thought that was a kid. As a kid, I thought she was in here. I was like, did she hear me? I thought she got in here. That's a real kid. Okay, my bad. But she was that side.
DJ Wells
Guys.
Bill Bellamy
They solid, though. They like baby people. They feel like them bullies, you know, they tight you ever. You ever picked up a pit, it says that's what the. The midget feel like. They experience that. I always see that the back of them, they always got a wagon on them. The girls do. They always be strapped. So. You sound like you my dude. See, I. I could talk to you. So. So day we in New York, right? I don't know why you making me think of stuff. So we in New York and it was this one girl, she was a little Puerto Rican. A little person, a little cutie though, bubble. They come in every, every nationality. I didn't know that. And so me and my boys used to be talking like that. Like we be like, yo, man, if she was just a little taller though, you know? You know, cats don't act like they won't do it. But they be talking about, man, real talk, man. If she can get some regular hands off. Cause I think your hands throw you off Boxing Glo.
DJ Wells
The hand BBL is crazy.
Bill Bellamy
I don't pass out that hand. That little hand touched me, I'mma pass out. It be too little because the fingers be stubby. They got construction worker. The N are like, can we say that? Can we say this?
DJ Wells
Yes, we can.
Bill Bellamy
I'm sorry.
DJ Wells
Look at.
Bill Bellamy
I should have never had this old fashioned, man.
DJ Wells
Y' all crazy.
Bill Bellamy
I know what you're talking about too, man, but. Yeah, but so you sound like you like you one of my boys. You know what I mean? That's how we be talking 1000% back in the day. It was this one cute little Puerto Rican little person. And she was adorable too. And she was so nice, but she was actually really pretty girl. And we used to be like, man, she used to do all the parties, hand out the flies for the next party thing. And so me and my boys, we drink it in the club like real tall dog on everything. She might catch me slipping.
DJ Wells
Man. Hilarious.
Bill Bellamy
We ain't never seen one jtu, man. I'm saying all that he's like, right? He got. He like, I got two in the truck. I keep. I keep in there like a spare out the game. I love this podcast. I love this podcast. Appreciate you.
DJ Wells
Thank you.
Bill Bellamy
Oh, yeah, thank you for the cocktail.
DJ Wells
I want to ask you about, like the movies, man. Okay. Yeah. Like how to be the player, you know, man, I kind of lived my life a little bit like that.
Bill Bellamy
Okay. A little something.
DJ Wells
Yeah. For about 21, about 25.
Bill Bellamy
Okay. You had a four year, like a college.
DJ Wells
Yeah. You, you know, I mean, I was inspired by that movie, man. What went into that role like, what made you take that role? Were you living like that?
Bill Bellamy
What? I. I was just. Just getting that real money, you know what I'm saying? At first, you know, like when you get in the league, at first you get that first solid contract, you know. You know, you straight. You seven figures with it.
DJ Wells
What you buy first? Crazy. Purchase a crib.
Bill Bellamy
Tired of living in apartments and stuff. So most cats was buying cars. I just bought nice crib off the rip. Because my big thing was I want something to put my car in, you feel me? I didn't want to have a car and, you know, be at the apartment type. So first thing was a crib. So I'm so. I'm really. I'm single, you know what I'm saying? I'm getting that like, first level of, like, cool success is starting to happen. Then I get this movie, right? So I'm like, dang, this movie kind of live. So I figured when I read the script, the first version of it was, the character wasn't very likable. He was very arrogant. So I was like, that's not gonna work. So I'm talking with Mark Brown and I was like, he can't be arrogant because no one's gonna like him. I say he gotta be charming and funny so that the stuff he doesn't that he's doing is not gonna come off offensive. He's gotta be like, almost getting left, you know what I mean? So we went back and forth over and he was like, yeah, B, I like them notes. I was like, yeah, because think about it, women gotta watch it and wanna like it. We can't just have dudes in the theater and they get in a fight with they chick. Cause this dude is just smashing everything moving. I said, what it's gotta be is like, he's in the candy store. He just got the best day of his life. He can get any candy he want today. And it's basically. Cause how to Be a Player is basically the best day of your life. You getting all the chicks you want, you having the most fun, and you bring in your friends. That's really what the movie is. That's what it is. And so with that kind of energy, I was like, I am going to bring so much fun to the character that women won't have a chance to get mad at me. They just gonna be like, he is stupid as hell. Like, oh my God, he got another girlfriend. He got this right here. And then the dudes would be like, yeah, nigga, I do. That's me all day. And I have had guys from every age group say, yo, man, I was in. Me and my brother used to watch that. My mama used to want us to watch it. I have guys in their 20s, 30s, 40s, and 50s that watch how to Be a Player. And that was, what, 30 years ago? 27. I don't know, but it's amazing to do a movie that make people feel like that.
DJ Wells
Yeah, that's fire.
Bill Bellamy
I don't know if I could do that now. But look at the cast. We had Bernie Mac Pierre. We had Natalie desale. We had A.J. johnson. R.I.P.
DJ Wells
R.I.P.
Bill Bellamy
We had Gilbert Gottfried in there. We had. Oh, man. J. Anthony Brown was in there. He was playing Unk. Who else I had in there? I had Elise Neal.
DJ Wells
Yeah.
Bill Bellamy
Wow. Let me think, let me think, let me think. Let me think of somebody else. Oh, we had Goldie, Max Julian, who was a wonderful person. So my sister passed away. That Natalie Sell. We lost a few cast members. We also lost Bernie, obviously. We lost max, Julian and A.J. johnson. So, I mean, you know, it's a blessing that their legacy is still moving. You feel me? So I think that was a wonderful thing.
DJ Wells
Like, you have a cult classic, especially in our community, like, that's a classic.
Richard Sherman
Yes.
DJ Wells
What's that feeling like? Cause we see a lot of movies that, you know what I'm saying, people might like, but it's like, that came out. Everybody love this movie.
Bill Bellamy
Pierre was a horrible wingman.
DJ Wells
Oh, yeah.
Bill Bellamy
He low key.
DJ Wells
A hating ass. He ain't know how to set the screen.
Bill Bellamy
Yeah, low key. Oh, God. He didn't set no screen. No scream.
DJ Wells
I like his podcast, though. I like his podcast.
Bill Bellamy
We talk about how people get treated, like, outside of their character in the real world. We would have treated Pierre back in the day.
DJ Wells
Oh, God. We would have been like, man, you weak.
Bill Bellamy
I wonder, do people feel like that about him now, like, in real life? Cause people treat me like, you know, they like me because they feel like I'm that guy. Like, you know what I mean? A lot of rappers just be like, yo, I'm in a club like Bill Bellamy. Or they you in a lot of songs. Like, I'm in a lot of songs. So it's like. Like, whatever that character is, it resonates with cool. It resonates with being on, you know what I mean?
DJ Wells
Like, I'm on, I'm up, I swear.
Bill Bellamy
So, like, if you play a lame character, I wonder, do people be like, man, yo, what do they be giving Pierre? He never told me that. I would ask him.
DJ Wells
That's Funny.
Bill Bellamy
He was funny, though. He was funny as hell. But I'm saying, you. That movie, man, it's like everybody can relate to somebody. Yes, sir. They got an uncle, like, you know what I mean? Jay Anthony or aj, Just anybody. Like, all them characters are relatable to sort of neighborhoods. I had a dude, couple months ago said that he. He. He did his whole closet because of that. Because of how to be played. He wanted all his sneakers lined up. And I forgot about that. I was like, yo, yeah, my closet was kind of lit. And remember, it had lighting in it, so you could see all. It was kind of dope. Yeah. And I had the. And I'm gonna tell you how much that movie affected me. So when I did the movie, I went. Went after I had the movie, I had never had a loft before.
DJ Wells
Okay?
Bill Bellamy
I went out and found me a loft, bro. And so now, this is so crazy how art imitates life. So I literally lived in a real loft. Like, I had a 3.3level loft, just like Dre. It was so crazy. I was like, yo, man, I'm really living this shit today. Cause it wasn't that. It wasn't a lot of people who had lost cause. That's when they was converting, you know, old schools and warehouse buildings into, like, loft apartments and stuff, for sure.
DJ Wells
I wanna ask you this question. Obviously, still on the road, still getting money, still doing standup. How would you tell yourself to start doing comedy in 2026? Cause nowadays, like, we don't see as many standups. We see a lot more. Instagram, comedians, skits. Like, those are the more popular things. How would you start in today's era on the gram. Social media?
Bill Bellamy
I think what they're doing is wonderful because you ain't gotta wait. You know what I'm saying? Like, you could showcase. You are funny. You can tell a story. You could think of something really quick. I think that's the beauty of technology now. Does not mean you're comedian yet. You could be funny now. You know, a lot of these cats do skits and you got to edit sound effects, voiceovers. Yes, sir. But that stage with a microphone and just some water in the stool, that hit different.
DJ Wells
That's a fact.
Bill Bellamy
That's like trying to guard this. And you play at LA Fitness, and when you and he going full throttle, and you like, oh, man, I'm Mr. LA Fitness. Not today. So that's what. That's where you gotta. You know, you gotta go, okay, I can get on like this, but I gotta do practice to get there. You know what I mean? Because comedy is an art form. Like, it is like. Like I tell my son, it's like shooting shots. You gotta get shots up. You cannot be a shooter without shooting. Nah, 100%. You cannot become a great shooter if you're not in the gym putting up shots. I tell my son shit all the time. It's like, bro, you are never gonna be a great shooter unless you shoot a lot of shots. Now you. Now the ones you missing, you gonna start making. Cause you shoot just like some of them bad jokes I did that I messed up. If I was practicing more, that gap closes now, my set is better. You feel me? It's the same thing. And you and I just tell the cats, don't cheat the game. You know, you could get famous on. You can get famous on the Internet. I love these dudes that's killing. Like, Mojo Brooks. That dude, he funnier than a motherfucker. Desi Banks, funny than a motherfucker. D.C. young, fly, funny than a motherfucker. These cats, off the top of my head, I think they have the best of everything. Why? They're really, really funny. They are not cheating the game. They are talented, and they embrace their fan base. They don't just get like. I was just talking with DC the other day. We working on a movie. He was like, yo, man, I gotta keep feeding it. Cause that's what that people know me from. He didn't go, oh, now that I'm big on this and that, he's still funny.
DJ Wells
Yeah.
Bill Bellamy
And that's the beauty. Like, for me as an og, if I think of something right now, I'll be like, damn, man. I'm gonna go in my car real quick. Let me get my camera in. Because I got an idea. And I could that a lot of that go viral.
DJ Wells
Yeah.
Bill Bellamy
Because if I'm waiting for my special to come out, or I'm waiting for the movie to come up, y' all might not see the movie, you might not see my comedy special. But if I put up them little commercials that keep me relevant, especially if I hit, you know, Jermaine Jackson, I do something about his haircut, or I do. I pick a topic that's so right now. Like, you know, the Diddy thing right now is crazy. It's in the culture, it's in the people's mind. Like, oh, my God. Did you ever go, like. You know, like, people. People like, thinking about it, like. Cause back in the day, you know, maybe going to that party would have been a thing. But now you, like, did you go, fam. Oh, God. Right? Everybody, like, did you ever go, Yeah, I hope you wasn't in there. Entertained during COVID speaking about the Internet. Like, during COVID them stories, I said, oh, they gonna come get. They gonna go get his what? Hey, you said some shit. I said, oh, Bill Cloudy. No, but I kept his for sure, you know? No, but the thing about me, why I don't think people get mad at me? Cause I'm never mean about it. I'm just telling you my perspective. Like, I just did this thing where it really happened when I met Mannie Fresh, and I'm a big Mannie Fresh fan, but I never met him in person. But I love Mannie Fresh, right? And so people was like, bill, you wild as hell. Why would you do that? But it's true. So the thing about Mannie Fresh, to me is I love music, right? So his own style, his own sound. I don't know if you know how many artists. I mean, he's the mastermind behind, you know, Lil Wayne and, you know, Cash Money he was doing. This is when nobody knew who Mannie Fresh was. They just knew the beats. So I've been following his career, but I was. I never met him, right? So I was in Houston, and my boy Al, who do my security when I'm there, he was like, yo, B, man, you know, Mannie Fresh is in town. You know, he got a little joint you gotta pull up. It's gonna be crazy. I said, oh, my God. So I get there, and I'm like, man, I can't wait to meet Mannie Fresh. So I get into vip and I'm looking. Cause I'm thinking, Mannie Fresh, probably tall, you know, whatever. And I'm like, standing around looking. And this person DJing, and I'm like, yo, he must have a warmup joint, you know? Cause they don't come out right away. I got there probably like quarter to 12, 12, 30. I was like, man, he ain't coming out. But every time I look over there, and it was like a stud. And she was like, yo, what's up? I was like, oh, he helping them people out. You know, I'm just being honest, but I'm drunk. I'm drunk.
DJ Wells
So I'm looking.
Bill Bellamy
I'm like, yo, this stud keeps saying, what's up? Different times. But I'm like, yo. I'm like, yo, you know, I never seen a stud dj. I was like, okay, this stud is doing. She doing her thing.
Richard Sherman
So.
Bill Bellamy
So now it's like 115. And I'm like, yo, Al, man, I'm about leave, man. I'm waiting to meet Manny Fred. She said, why you ain't say? He right there. I was like, what? I ain't know the stud. Where's Manny Fred from the dick this, bro. I'm a story people that I'm sure Manny start following me from the store. It wasn't a mean story, but from a distance, like, I didn't know. Especially off that liquor. It'll definitely get. Yo, I'm drinking. I don't know, man. And everybody's like, me, you crazy. I'm like, dog. Cause he ain't got no facial hair, no eyebrows, and that's the hair. And he got the stud haircut.
DJ Wells
About that story we had went to Dreville Fest, and my nephew did the same exact thing. We like to go, Manny fresh Eli her. It was like, no. No disrespect. The lip. Yeah. Like, are you crazy? He did the same exact thing.
Bill Bellamy
But so you know, I'm not like, oh, yeah. You know what I mean? Everybody. It's just like, people don't think I'm that tall. Like, when people meet me, they be like, oh, that ain't no Bill Bellamy. Bill Bellamy little. And then when they meet me, they be like, damn, B, you kind of tall. I'm like, I don't know what I look like on tv. You know what I'm saying? It's the same kind concept. And especially when you meet celebrities. Like, I remember the first time I met Yao Ming.
DJ Wells
Oh, man.
Bill Bellamy
Man, you ain't never seen nothing like this. Like, you know, like, I didn't know a human being could be that big.
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Bill Bellamy
Yao Ming was unreal. I was like, God damn. And he played basketball.
DJ Wells
And that's crazy because, you know, Shaq, like, that's feeling me. So, like, bigger than Shaq. That's crazy.
Bill Bellamy
Shaq is regular to him. If. If you don't see Yami, Shaq's the biggest guy in the world. And then you put Yaming next to Shaq. Shaq looked like he was 610 or 6 9. It was crazy. So that's. That's the concept.
Richard Sherman
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DJ Wells
That's one. Now you. You have one of my favorite skits. He said crackheads can't lie, right?
Bill Bellamy
No, Crackhead. One of my favorite Instagram videos, man. Crackheads can't lie, Man. Crackheads. Everybody got a cousin or a friend that's a crackhead. The thing about crackheads, to me that's funny is they tell you what you want to hear to get the crack. Like, they not going. They'll tell you anything. You gonna do better. Yeah, yeah. You know that stuff gonna kill you.
DJ Wells
Yes.
Bill Bellamy
You gonna stop, right?
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Bill Bellamy
Yeah. Now I'm gonna give you this money, and when they see you about to get it, they start doing like this. I swear to God, I say the same. I don't know why they do this. They be like, they start rocking. Cause they be excited. You could give a crackhead $20. It's like they hit the lottery. That's right. And everything that you trying to continue to say, they run.
Richard Sherman
Yeah.
Bill Bellamy
So you be like, listen, I'mma give you this money, dog. Okay? And I want you to get you something to eat, bro, and get you some new socks. And. And they be like, oh, Bill, as soon as he put it in. Yeah, for sure. You be like, you gonna get them socks. They be running to get that crack, boy. I don't want to say what I really want to say, but they just. They just more grateful than the other people that be outside.
DJ Wells
Oh, okay.
Bill Bellamy
That's all I'm saying. Oh, you gonna leave it, right? Yeah. Okay. Right there. I love a good crackhead, bro. I support, like. But here's the thing about crack is, cuz, it's a joy when you give them that dub. It's a joy to feel good about that. Make you feel like, yeah, I seen a crackhead fall off a roof, get up and keep walking. Oh, God. That's all my uncle hired for his construction staff, so. We see that all the time. Y' all hire crackheads? Yes, bro. I ain't going to shout this company, cuz, you know. Right, right. I don't want to up the business, but.
Richard Sherman
Hey, that's a real company.
Bill Bellamy
That's my brother. He crazy.
DJ Wells
It's a bad shout out if you coach. Yo, don't do it.
Bill Bellamy
Don't do it. Don't do it, though.
DJ Wells
All right, man.
Bill Bellamy
Before we get out of here, who's.
DJ Wells
Some of your favorite players currently playing in the league? I know you still tapped in.
Bill Bellamy
Oh, man, I love so many players, man. Okay. All right, let me go.
DJ Wells
Guards.
Bill Bellamy
I'm. I'mma do. I'm going to go by position. Okay. Yeah. So my guards right now.
DJ Wells
Shout. Yeah.
Bill Bellamy
Killing the game. Anthony Edwards. Well, he's not playing, but I love Jayson Tatum. I hope he come back healthy. Who else is currently playing that? I love watching him get busy. Let me go, Steph. Obviously, I'm going down the west coast. Kd. Well, KD really a three, but he a fucking guard. But let me go. Let me go.
DJ Wells
East.
Bill Bellamy
Jalen Bronson, JB Little big man.
DJ Wells
Little big man.
Bill Bellamy
Little footwork. Yeah. Jalen Bronson got. If Jalen Brunson was 6, 6, 6, 7, it's already crazy, but for. I think he might be 5, 11, maybe 5, 10, maybe 6 foot the most. Most cook, everybody. I love his name.
DJ Wells
If he was 6, 7, he'd be crazy.
Bill Bellamy
He be crazy. Who else on the. I'm going down the East. The East. Oh, Darius Garland.
DJ Wells
Shout out dg.
Bill Bellamy
Can't nobody guard him. Super tricky Donovan Mitchell. Another one my favorites going down the East Coast. Miami.
DJ Wells
You a Laker fan?
Bill Bellamy
I love the Lakers. I like Luka. I just don't. He don't play a good enough D for me. Like, he don't help me. Like, you know what I mean? Like, I love Luka. Offensively, I think he's unguardable. He big, slow.
DJ Wells
So let me ask you this question. It's a per. We just had a debate, me and him. You taking Jaylen Brown or Luka right now, this year?
Bill Bellamy
Don't move the goalpost.
DJ Wells
That's what we was debating. That's what we was debating.
Bill Bellamy
If I gotta be 100, if it's not just about buckets, I'm going with Jaylen Brown.
DJ Wells
Thank you. That's all I want. Now, listen, making money moves. Last night, Jaylen Brown just average dropped 50. He had 50 last night. He was mad he didn't get that Player of the month and dropped 50.
Bill Bellamy
But this is the thing, like, about basketball that I could share with you that I, from my perspective is there's certain guys that do certain things really, really well and they lock in on that. Luka is all offense, and that's cool if, you know, you need a bucket. Okay, cool. Who's going to lock down Luka? Not locking down nobody in the playoffs, bro. He don't extend the energy that it Takes take to play D. So how he helping you? He. He turning sideways. He letting Cash roll. So y' all just catching him on this bad day? No, no. L. Dope. No, no, I'm just saying, bro. In the playoffs, we got to get to the playoff. I'm a Laker fan. He do his thing, okay? He do his thing in the playoff. He's not going to guard. No, we got to play a Zoom. No, listen, Bill. That's why I'm paying Bill Bellamy, Jamie Fox. I'm paying your other niggas to do this other shit. Okay? I'm here. But you a big guard, right? Yeah. Here's the thing, bro. At some point, you got a guard, because you can't. You can't. This is why. OKC so dope. They play defense for real. 1989, 90s goddamn Detroit Pistons defense. So when you playing them right, and they. They all on the floor, they all tipping. They all. They. They. They frantic about it, right? So. So we got to play seven games of that, bro. You cooked? Nah, for sure. The Browns are all retired. I'm just saying. Yeah, it's over with. I' if you just going out the hoop, it's Luca, bro. He unguardable, bro. Now, when you're doing the team, of course he unguardable and all this, but if you put four defenders or three, two defenders around, okay, but if he. I'll tell you how Luka can help us. If he average a double in assists, that's. That'll. That'll. That'll help him. Because if he can come off the pill, he don't need 40 a game. He don't need 35. Luka could do 25 and 10 every night, easily about 35 and 10.
DJ Wells
Right now he doing 35 and 10. Yeah, he doing 33.
Bill Bellamy
Oh, he doing 35.
DJ Wells
10.
Bill Bellamy
My bad.
DJ Wells
It's almost 33. Tennis.
Bill Bellamy
Now.
DJ Wells
He build defense now.
Bill Bellamy
Hey, Luca, I'm sorry. I ain't got my numbers right.
DJ Wells
What you were saying, the numbers. 33.
Bill Bellamy
I'm just saying. I'm just saying, conceptually, if you're trying to win. I know what you're saying.
DJ Wells
You can't.
Bill Bellamy
You can't ask LeBron at this point in his career to do all of that. You hire these young guns, you know, maybe we grab one more piece, somebody that's going to rock out. But LeBron and Luka are ball dominant. It's very hard to have a team when the ball don't move like that. So when you got a team, this is why the Pacers, to me, was. Was dope. When they was winning, before Tyrese got hurt, the ball was like, fling, fling. Don't nobody care who get 30. Don't nobody care. When the. When the Celtics, when the Celtics were at their best, they was moving the ball. So the better, the better. Teams that's playing like the community, they win because it's hard to guard them niggas. Like, it's tough. So case in point, I don't know why you got me talking basketball, because I love basketball. But the thing that's the hardest thing to me to watch is when the ball be sticking. Because everybody watching, you know, or LeBron, who I love the goat. Whatever. LeBron need eight dribbles. He not LeBron or Jordan. No, LeBron is the goat of this decade.
DJ Wells
Okay?
Bill Bellamy
He's not the goat of basketball. Who's the good goat is Jordan. Michael Jordan.
DJ Wells
I remember he was at the space.
Bill Bellamy
No, I'm just being honest. I'm just Michael Jordan. But of this decade, of 20 years that I've been a fan of basketball, LeBron is the greatest player that I've seen in this era. LeBron is the best basketball player in the last 30 years. I'm just giving it to you. Yeah, I respect it. I've been watching LeBron since he was in the ninth grade. So I'm invested. I seen it when they said. When they was like, yo, he gonna be the next. I was like, okay, well, he's only in the 10th grade. He's playing in arenas. He did everything they said. Be a witness. Oh, he's stronger, bigger. He's killing NBA players in the 11th grade. He did all that.
DJ Wells
So fact.
Bill Bellamy
I mean.
DJ Wells
So you taking over Mike.
Bill Bellamy
Okay, that's crazy. No, not over. No, no, you start. No, I'm starting a team. So you start a team with pick.
DJ Wells
And you start a team. You take Mike.
Bill Bellamy
What we doing? What we doing?
DJ Wells
Ask the question.
Bill Bellamy
No, you start your team with Jordan. Jordan or LeBron? LeBron in they prime.
DJ Wells
Prime.
Bill Bellamy
Both.
DJ Wells
Yeah.
Bill Bellamy
Yeah. We're just starting the team, bro. This your.
DJ Wells
You got the first thing I'm going.
Bill Bellamy
With Mike going, Mike. I gotta go with Mike. If we starting. Yeah, we. Cause Mike is that nucleus for you now. If we are building a team, a different type of team. Cause to me, what cats don't ever talk about is LeBron is magic. Nobody even give him that. Stop trying to compare him to Michael Jordan. Compare him to Magic. He has all those attributes. Leadership on the floor, pass the ball. He's unselfish. He's unguardable, stronger, bigger than any guard. He can get to the cup. He fixed every part of his game since he started. LeBron has fixed every flaw in his game.
DJ Wells
That's a fact.
Bill Bellamy
Oh, he can't. He can't close. He closed. He can't play with his back to the best.
DJ Wells
Sound like the greatest to me. No, but what you describe it sound like the great. It don't sound like the greatest to you?
Bill Bellamy
No, but I'm saying, like, how do you feel?
DJ Wells
I think he the greatest ever. I mean. Yeah. I mean, I grew up in this era, so Mike. I think Mike is like somewhere over there. I can't believe he, like, real. Yeah, like, that's how good I think Mike.
Bill Bellamy
You saying what I'm saying. In your experience, what you witness, LeBron is the go, but you witness both. I witnessed both. Both live. And I can only separate it like this. It's like almost trying to say Michael Jackson and Chris Brown, they both great. They don't have to be greater than the other. They're both great. They're just. They're striking in different decades.
DJ Wells
But I don't think Mike. I don't think Chris.
Bill Bellamy
Well, who closing your concert then? You got the money to afford both of them. Who closing your concert?
DJ Wells
Yeah, Michael. Chris Buntz.
Bill Bellamy
It's not about who better. I was just Michael Jackson clown. But Chris Brown on his ass. Mike might have to do another moonwalker new. Cause Chris Brown is flipping. He do three hour shows.
DJ Wells
Yeah.
Bill Bellamy
Facts. You ever been to Chris Brown show lately? Yes, yes, yes. Man, Chris Brown got so many goddamn hits, you get a headache. You forgot, like, you were like, oh, I know Chris Brown.
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Bill Bellamy
Oh, that's right. He definitely don't need to open her. Let me tell you how crazy Chris Brown show is. And nobody says this Chris Brown can do another tour with just the features he was on. Oh, God.
DJ Wells
Facts.
Bill Bellamy
Yes.
DJ Wells
All B sides.
Bill Bellamy
I'm just doing. I'm just doing features. Him and Drake could do that. I'm just gonna do a concert with the features I did. I'm not gonna do my other stuff. That's how good they are. That's how much content they put out.
DJ Wells
That's crazy.
Bill Bellamy
What artists of your generation you think could do something like that? Besides our R. Kelly. What side? Arenas. Oh, it's so many people besides R. Kelly. I love R. Kelly. That's my rain and shine.
DJ Wells
You said now.
Bill Bellamy
Robert.
DJ Wells
Robert did it.
Richard Sherman
Robert.
Bill Bellamy
Robert, we still love you, bro.
DJ Wells
R. Kelly.
Bill Bellamy
Rob. Rob is something. He's special, man. God, y' all Gonna have it.
DJ Wells
I gotta go.
Bill Bellamy
We can wrap it up. Let me do one quick story with Rob. I love Rob. I love Rob, man. Where was you. Where was you when All Star was in Orlando?
DJ Wells
Shit, I was probably.
Bill Bellamy
Orlando was what? Look it up for me, dawg. All star year is 2000.
DJ Wells
Orlando. I was in high school.
Bill Bellamy
Yeah, they was in high school. When was Orlando?
DJ Wells
2012. 2012. I was in the league.
Bill Bellamy
You was in the league, right?
DJ Wells
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Bill Bellamy
So we in Orlando, so you was probably there. You know, I will never forget this. So R. Kelly had a row. Like, we was all in the same row. And he bought Hennessy for the entire row, right? And so I had met Rob many a times, but this is like the first time, like, I'm drinking with him. Like, real. He off the clock. He not on the show. Whatever. Whatever, right? So my role manager at the time, Big E, you know, he six, eight. He's like, yo, man. Yo, man, I. I don't want to be sweating Robert, man, but, yo, he kind of fly, man. He. He a big dude, but, you know, he's. You know, you don't want to look like he. He a fan. Yo, yo, be real talk, man. And he drink hand to see me or everything I love. I'm buying everything. He dropped me, so they had to.
DJ Wells
He.
Bill Bellamy
And Rob took a liking to Big E, man. He said, man, big fella. He said, man, big fella, real one, man. I said, yeah, that's my guy, man. I said, man, he don't wanna say, hey, he love you, bro. He said, big fella, you a fan, man? He said, man, I fuck with you.
DJ Wells
A little bit, man.
Bill Bellamy
So him and Kells became real, real cool and shit. And he was just such a good dude, you know, Just a real Chicago kind of cat. So when all that stuff happened, I felt so bad because all the times I hung out with him, he was so dope, genuine kind of dude. Like, he would take every. He would get us all drunk.
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Bill Bellamy
He'd take us all out like he was. He. And he was a Hooper, too. He liked to play ball. So I used to hoot with him sometime. It was fun. I respect, man, and I see. I see you. Respect kills.
DJ Wells
Yeah.
Bill Bellamy
Let's go to your generation. Always off the court. What he did, that's his life. You know what I mean? But we just talking about the music. No, no, the. I don't know if it's enough. Another epic person of my decade that could really kill it like that. Well, you got to go with, like, Shade Lauryn. Hill just ain't gonna be on time.
DJ Wells
Lauren Hill just ain't gonna be on time.
Bill Bellamy
Yeah, Lauren Hill not gonna come, but.
DJ Wells
She gonna be dpu.
Bill Bellamy
But I'm trying to think right now. Ch you think? What you thinking, Kel?
DJ Wells
Different.
Bill Bellamy
That's it.
DJ Wells
Do you have your passport?
Bill Bellamy
I was trying. I was just asking you why. I'm asking you because, like, man, you grew up in. In the right era, bro. Yes. Oh, man. Tupac. Why am I slipping? Yeah, Tupac and Big. Yeah. Yeah, yeah.
DJ Wells
Oh, yeah. Yeah.
Bill Bellamy
I'm gonna do one more story for y', all, then I'm gonna go. Cause I'm hungry.
DJ Wells
Yeah. Facts.
Bill Bellamy
Respect. Do you remember when flirt came out? Yeah, I'm a flirt.
DJ Wells
Bow wow said that was his song.
Bill Bellamy
Okay. Wait till I tell you this. Crazy ass. That. So I'm in Miami. All the way up. I think it was Karoo Ny. I don't know if you. How old you are, but back then, Karoo Ny was everything. So I'm in Miami. I don't know why I'm there. Maybe I'm doing a show. Something, something, something. But I go to this dope ass after party, and Kels is there. And this when his song is crazy, right? Yes, it was the biggest song. Damn, 28, right? Oh, God, the song was so mother fucking crazy, right? So I think Catino Mobley was with me. I think it was. I think it was. I think he was in the league at the time. For whatever reason, I think I remember seeing Catino in my mind. So anyway, we rolling up in the club. We all fly. It's a bunch of bad chicks in the vip. So imagine you walk in the vip. It's the one where all the couches along like this. You sitting looking this way. You sitting this way. And Kells is all the way at the back looking this way. So I got to step up and walk in, and I see Kells. I said, oh, Kells, what's up? He go like. He do like this. Like, what up, nigga? You in the game. You in here. I'm like, what's up? Then I said, Damn, 28. And all the women got up, and it looked like I was in the music video with him. I said, oh, I done made it, Cuz. It looked like the music video. And everybody, when I walk up, I'm a flirt. And he started walking through, pouring champagne. I said, oh, my God. I am in the game. What are the odds that the number one song would come on? And I'm in the fucking club. With the man and he walking around like the video. And it was nothing but killers in that video, in that vip. Straight killers. Shout out to Rob.
DJ Wells
Hey man, what better way to close the episode?
Bill Bellamy
We appreciate you.
DJ Wells
Thank you, man. We pulling up tonight. My dog.
Bill Bellamy
Come on, jt. Come on.
DJ Wells
Make it money. Move. Shout out to boost mobile Stock X. And last but certain, not least, Hard Rock. Bet we appreciate y'.
Bill Bellamy
All.
DJ Wells
We'll catch y' all next time. Shout out to boost.
Bill Bellamy
Peace. The volume.
Richard Sherman
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DJ Wells
This is Julian Edelman from Dudes on Dudes with Gronk and Jewels.
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Bill Bellamy
Your classic do it all tight end.
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Bill Bellamy
No.
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DJ Wells
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Bill Bellamy
This is an iHeart podcast. Guaranteed Human.
Release date: January 5, 2026
Host: DJ Wells (with Jeff Teague, Bishop B Henn.)
Guest: Bill Bellamy
This episode of Club 520 features veteran comedian, actor, and (as listeners learn) lifelong hooper Bill Bellamy. The crew dives into Bill’s basketball stories, iconic comedy era memories, thoughts on today’s NBA, and wild behind-the-scenes moments from his entertainment career—including a legendary R. Kelly story. The vibe is relaxed and hilarious, with Bill matching the hosts’ energy beat for beat.
Jermaine Jackson’s Hair:
Changing Comedy Norms:
Short Women & Club Stories:
"Grandmama was like the first LeBron, okay?...Size, athleticism...he was probably one of the most athletic three-fours at that time."
— Bill Bellamy on Larry Johnson (16:23)
"Back then, whatever was wrong with you used to be your nickname."
— Bill Bellamy (38:53)
"Mojo Brooks, Desi Banks, DC Young Fly...they not cheating the game."
— Bill Bellamy on new school comedy (49:42)
"The character wasn’t likable at first—had to make him charming and funny so women would want to watch."
— Bill Bellamy on playing Dre in How to Be a Player (41:59)
"Luka is all offense...but in playoffs, you gotta play D."
— Bill Bellamy (62:52)
"LeBron is the goat of this decade...Michael Jordan is the goat of basketball."
— Bill Bellamy (66:21)
"Kells is at the end of the VIP, and when 'I’m a Flirt' came on, all the women got up. It looked like I was in the music video..."
— Bill Bellamy (74:41)
This episode serves as a living oral history—Bill Bellamy’s infectious storytelling touches on the intersection of basketball, comedy, and Black pop culture from the ‘90s to now. The conversation is rolling with laughter, ribbing, and genuine respect, making it a must-listen—or, thanks to this summary, a must-read—for anyone who loves hoops, stand-up, or the art of a good story.