Club 520 - Cyhi The Prynce on working with Kanye West, Travis Scott, NBA Finals picks

Summary

Club 520 Podcast – Episode Summary

Episode: Cyhi The Prynce on working with Kanye West, Travis Scott, NBA Finals picks
Date: May 4, 2026
Hosts: DJ Wells, Jeff Teague ("Young Teague"), Bishop B Henn
Guest: Cyhi The Prynce

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Main Theme / Purpose

This high-energy episode of Club 520 features acclaimed lyricist and songwriter Cyhi The Prynce. The conversation weaves through Cyhi’s creative journey and behind-the-scenes stories from working with Kanye West and Travis Scott, industry insights on songwriting and the evolution of hip-hop, plus strong opinions and hilarious debates on the NBA, the Ball brothers and who really belongs in the basketball GOAT conversation. This episode delivers both music and sports authenticity—with Cyhi dropping gems and revealing never-heard stories in the show’s unfiltered, barbershop-style vibe.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

Cyhi’s Background & Come-Up

[06:17–12:56]

• Writing “No Dope on Sundays” and his approach to storytelling:
  • Cyhi discusses channeling his teenage experiences and transition from the streets into music.
  • Notable Quote:
    “I tried to do something to kind of sum up my childhood… make a capsule of it and kind of make it an experience but also have some lessons in it.” (06:17, Cyhi)
• Sports background:
  • Varsity in track and football, nearly went to Georgia, and ran the Junior Olympics. “I was supposed to go to Georgia. Georgia was crew(ing) me in ninth grade… I went to Junior Olympics twice. I'm with him, bro. Respect.” (09:36, Cyhi)
• Early influences:
  • Couldn’t listen to rap at home—parents only allowed gospel or jazz—so he was influenced by East Coast hip-hop through friends, discovering Jay-Z’s “Reasonable Doubt.”
  • Motivation to improve lyrically came from witnessing New York transplants dominate ciphers at school.

Breaking Into the Industry & Iconic Collaborations

[12:04–17:30]

• Freestyling his way onto Kanye and Jay-Z’s “So Appalled”:
  • He was supposed to write the hook, but secretly laid a freestyle verse—Kanye heard it by accident, played it for Jay-Z and Beyoncé, who said:
    “Beyoncé was like, whoever that is, you need to sign them.” (12:56, Cyhi)
• Early deals:
  • Signed by Jazzy Faye (as part of a group), then worked with Akon, before his connection with Kanye solidified.
• On being in GOOD Music:
  • Described early years as rap’s “Power Rangers,” with creativity and camaraderie at an all-time high.
  • “It was almost like we was the Power Rangers or like Captain Planet. All the powers combined for real.” (14:14, Cyhi)
• Kanye’s creative process:
  • Detailed Kanye’s relentless thrifting and inspiration gathering for YEEZY shoes:
    “For him to make one shoe, he might go thrifting around the world twice and bring in, I would say, 3,000 pair of shoes to make one shoe.” (15:51, Cyhi)

Songwriting for Others & Industry Insight

[18:14–21:41]

• Process of songwriting for other artists:
  • Stresses the need to spend time with artists to accurately channel their voice, not just his own.
    “I need to be around the artist for at least two weeks to a month, just to know your vibe, process… so when I write, it don’t sound like it's my verse.” (19:36, Cyhi)
• Defining moments/standout songs:
  • “Father Stretch My Hands” with Kanye and “SICKO MODE” with Travis Scott.
    • On “SICKO MODE”, Cyhi says he was left alone in the studio (“Travis had to go to the dentist”), so he wrote lyric ideas for the track, not knowing Drake would be added.
    • “I just was vibing to the record and I just, you know, came up with some lyrics… I didn’t know he was gonna put Drake on it, but once Drake got on it, it was up.” (23:22, Cyhi)

Rap Industry Structure & Streaming

[38:52–46:01]

• On major labels vs independent artists:
  • Argues that, similar to NBA/overseas ballers and street leagues, the music world should “professionalize” more: only major label artists should be called “rappers” to protect the art and its economics.
  • Notable Quote:
    “If you don't have a major record deal, you can't be called a rapper or artist... YouTube basketball, they're not NBA.” (36:01, Cyhi)
  • Breaks down how Spotify and streaming share revenue and why it dilutes artist earning potential.
• The blog era and invention of streaming:
  • Recalls how artists like himself, Kendrick, Wiz, and Drake dropped mixtapes on DatPiff, LiveMixtapes, Spinrilla, giving birth to the streaming revolution.
    “We invented streaming lowkey… Apple Music and Spotify… came up with streaming because they seen that they major artists was losing steam to the artists that they had on the shelf.” (44:02, Cyhi)

Writing Credits, Songwriter Recognition, and Working with Ye

[29:20–32:41]

• On songwriter recognition:
  • Praises Kanye for giving co-writers and contributors their proper credit—sometimes even the “maids get percentages on shoes.”
  • “Ye give everybody credit. If you stay up long enough… he gonna give you credit. Like, he give the most miscellaneous credit out. God damn it.” (31:40, Cyhi)
• On 'My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy' sessions:
  • Reminisces about studio sessions with legends: Alicia Keys, Nicki Minaj, Swizz, Charlie Wilson—calls it “the zenith of Black music and culture all in one.” (32:41, Cyhi)

Rap Beefs and the Kendrick–Drake Battle

[35:05–38:51]

• On competitive battles:
  • Cyhi views the Drake/Kendrick beef as too personal, compared to classic professional rivalries:
    “It should have stayed professional… The lines get blurred when artists start trying to behave like the aspiring artists.” (37:10, Cyhi)
  • Advocates for professionalism and keeping “rap beef” on wax, not extending into dangerous territory.

Freestyling, Staying Sharp & The Ritual of Rap

[41:45–43:17]

• On his viral freestyles:
  • Cyhi treats freestyles like “pickup games”—practice and keeping his pen sharp with extra bars, comparing it to summer Pro-Am leagues.
• Favorite body of work:
  • Early mixtape success: “Ivy League,” and acknowledges the DATPIFF/blog era as a launchpad for many.

NBA, Ball Brothers, and Player Debates

[49:50–68:01 and throughout]

• Ball brothers fandom:
  • Cyhi is a confirmed LaMelo/Lonzo Ball superfan, gives NBA-level hypotheticals for how the Ball brothers could succeed as a full NBA lineup.
    • “If you give them to the ball boys… they gonna be in the chip. We put us out there with Michael Porter, Lamelo, Alonzo… we gonna run the league.” (68:04, Cyhi)
• Coaching rants:
  • Criticizes Hornets’ minutes restrictions, laments lack of a true playmaker for his team (57:51–58:29).
• Debates on point guards and NBA legacy:
  • Staunchly defends “old school” PGs, says LaMelo is the best PG in the East (“LaMelo, the goat, I f-ck with”), argues for sweat equity and classic team roles.
  • Hilarious, passionate arguments about LeBron’s rings versus those won “with the team you were drafted to,” calling out the modern trend of “superteams.”
  • Cyhi's All-Time Top 5 (contested by hosts):
    “Kobe, Jordan, Steph, Tim Duncan, LeBron… in that order. Everybody else homegrown. What the f-ck that mean? I won my chips with the team I was drafted to.” (69:45–70:21, Cyhi)

NBA Finals Picks & Sports Fandom

[88:23–89:15]

• Picks for 2026 NBA Finals:
  • Cyhi’s heart pick: “Who I want is Cleveland.” (88:29)
  • Head pick: “I’m going Boston to beat OKC.” (88:47)
  • Both hosts and Cyhi align on Boston as favorites, but hope for James in Cleveland to get a ring.
• NFL and Atlanta sports:
  • Loyal to the Atlanta Falcons but jokes about needing a "real quarterback," poking fun at the current roster (89:15–89:29).

Other Notable Moments

• Candles & studio rituals:
  • Playful back-and-forth about the “vibe” of candles vs. plug-ins in the studio, and who was sassy for having them.
    “My candles is real candle. These ain’t no family dollar… $100 candles. My penhaligon… bitch walking my crib, smell that Louis, baby.” (46:58, Cyhi)
• Locker room relationships & NBA love triangles:
  • Laugh-out-loud moment where Cyhi tells a story about being at a Rockets/Timberwolves game and realizing three players on the court all dated his ex-girlfriends (“I ain't know who to root for that night! I'm rooting for both!”) (47:47–49:09).
• Debate over “sweat equity” in the NBA:
  • Cyhi defines it as “getting to touch the ball” so you’re ready when it’s time to make winning plays—“That’s why Derek Fisher always hit game winning shots. Because he has sweat equity.” (78:39, Cyhi)
• Nuanced takes on basketball positions and how “the modern game” has changed the stat lines and evaluation of players.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On writing iconic songs by accident:
  • “He asked me to write the hook on ‘So Paul[d]’... I told him, put me at the eight minute mark so I could just get my little freestyle off... Beyoncé was like, whoever that is, you need to sign them.” — Cyhi (12:16–12:56)
• On working with Kanye:
  • “That was the zenith of Black music and culture all in one conundrum.” — Cyhi on the My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy sessions (32:41)
• On songwriter recognition:
  • “Ye give everybody credit. If you stay up long enough… he gonna give you credit.” (31:40)
• On the rap battle era:
  • “It should have stayed professional… This ain’t Pac and Big.” (38:07)
• On NBA superteam culture:
  • “When you stay on the same team your whole career, you gotta reload and unload and reload and unload. That’s what you gotta do.” (71:23)
• On LeBron vs. Kobe/Jordan:
  • “Everybody else homegrown. What the f-ck that mean? I won my chips with the team I was drafted to. LeBron did, too. … That's like a no, come back bro. Don’t do that, bro. Don’t do that.” (69:49–70:21)
• On favorite NBA Finals pick:
  • “Who I want is Cleveland. Who I think gonna win it? I’m going Boston.” (88:29–88:49)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• [06:00] Cyhi on writing his first classic album and leaving the streets for music
• [12:04] Breakdown of how Cyhi wrote his breakout verse for Kanye/Jay-Z “So Appalled” (and was cosigned by Beyoncé)
• [14:08] Experience in GOOD Music, making creative history
• [18:14] Songwriting process: getting inside the head of the artist
• [20:24] “Father Stretch” and “SICKO MODE”—origin stories
• [29:20] Songwriter recognition & the “Ye effect”
• [32:24] Studio stories from My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy
• [35:05] Modern rap beefs, professionalism in music
• [38:52] Debates on indie artists vs. major label structure (“professionalize rap”)
• [41:45] On freestyling and treating rap like an elite pickup game
• [49:50] Deep-dive NBA debates: Ball brothers, point guard legacies, coaching takes
• [69:45] Cyhi’s all-time NBA top 5, ring logic, and superteam culture
• [88:23] NBA Finals picks and passionate Cleveland/Boston predictions

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Overall Tone & Takeaways

The episode flows with classic Club 520 energy: a hybrid of locker room trash talk, hip-hop history, and raw personal insight. Cyhi The Prynce is both candid and vulnerable, dropping straight-from-the-source gems about the creative process, his journey from street life to rap stardom, and the realities of the music industry. Simultaneously, the conversation finds humor and heat in sports arguments (especially around the NBA and Ball family), making the episode a recommended listen for fans of authentically honest, culture-celebrating podcasting.

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New Projects Teased

• “West Story of Mr. EGOT”—new Cyhi album dropping in two months. (90:32)

Final Quote:
“I appreciate y’all, man… Long time coming, man… Club 520, one of my favorite shows. I’m an Atlanta house family… I watch our show all the time. Y’all hilarious, and y’all got good taste.” — Cyhi The Prynce (90:49)

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Listen If:

• You love hip-hop origin stories and want insider tales from Kanye, Travis Scott, and the blog era
• You’re an NBA junkie who enjoys heated (and hysterical) hoops debate
• You want to understand the business side of songwriting and the music industry, straight from an industry vet

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Transcript

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[Saha Prince]

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[DJ Wells]

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[Saha Prince]

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[Saha Prince]

Oh, yeah, for sure. I got you.

[DJ Wells]

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[Saha Prince]

I a. I ain't really on. I bet it on Charlotte this year. Oh, to do what, brother? We supposed to go to the finals.

[DJ Wells]

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[Saha Prince]

That probably won you 11 million. Yeah, I mean, I ain't gonna bet. I ain't Gonna bet on Boston or nothing. I'm gonna go with something that's gonna. Yeah. Give me some paper.

[DJ Wells]

Five.

[Saha Prince]

Five.

[DJ Wells]

When you.

[Saha Prince]

A million eleven. Yes. That Derek Jeter, man, we got sabotaged by the coach, but we. We'll talk about that.

[DJ Wells]

Yeah, we're gonna talk about it. But listen, if you're making a bet futures on the Hornets, please call the hotline below. Value yourself and your money, man. Shout out to StockX. Keeping us fresh in the set as well. We got a special guest in the building as usual. You know, introduce him last on my far left, we got my dog, Bishop B. Hand out the prayer le. How you what? Nasty.

[Saha Prince]

Well, nasty. Let's get to it. My guy is. Yes, sir. Yes, sir.

[DJ Wells]

Got a whole lot to talk about for sure. Long time coming. To my right, we got my dog, Young Nacho Young Teague, how you what? I'm chilling, bro. We already had some debates before the pod game. Y' all can't hear those debates, but about to be a fun pod.

[Saha Prince]

Yeah, for sure.

[DJ Wells]

Yeah, if he get winky, we might snitch on air, man. But we ain't gonna do that Tig at all.

[Saha Prince]

We ain't gonna do that Teague. To hear legend. And, hey, we gonna keep it that way.

[DJ Wells]

Appreciate it.

[Saha Prince]

For sure.

[DJ Wells]

Speaking of legend, hey, man, we in the as only, right? We got our dog in the building, man, the man behind some of your favorite songs, and the man who made one of my favorite albums of all time. No dope on Sunday. Come on, baby.

[Saha Prince]

No dope on Sundays. Yes, sir.

[DJ Wells]

The real right now, man. Sahada Prince in the building, Big dog. We apprec. Appreciate you sliding on us. Yes, sir.

[Saha Prince]

Yes, sir. I appreciate y' all for having me, man. I appreciate y' all for having me.

[DJ Wells]

Yeah, we got a whole lot of talk. I gotta crack it off, though.

[Saha Prince]

Kick it off. What we doing, bro?

[DJ Wells]

It's your money, bro. That's one of my favorite songs, that first verse, bruh. Oh, man, that's one of the most epic verse.

[Saha Prince]

My boy.

[DJ Wells]

Shout out to my boy Phil.

[Saha Prince]

When you play that song back to

[DJ Wells]

back to back, that verse is fucking crazy. What was going through your mind when you did that one?

[Saha Prince]

Man, that album was like, man, you know, I tried to, like, do something to kind of sum up my childhood, like. Well, like, my teenage years are just being on some. I was a part of some shit I wasn't supposed to be a part of, and I was just like, how can I, like, make a capsule of it and kind of make it an experience? But also have some lessons in it. So I guess that whole album, I was just in that mind frame. I had to kind of, like, take myself back to that time and all the lessons I learned and things that I went through during that time, I just put it in lyrics.

[DJ Wells]

You say that, T? Cause my favorite song on the album, some of my homeboys too. It's Closer, but top of your sample. Crazy. Cause, like, you was really rapping your life on that bitch. You can feel that shit.

[Saha Prince]

Yeah, yeah. I mean, that's kind of, like, been my whole thing. I can't even write if it ain't about me or, like, it's close to me, you know what I'm saying? No pun intended. So I think, yeah, that whole project was just a reflection of. Right before I got in the music industry. It was just like how I just kind of just went cold turkey in the street and just kind of fully focused on my career and, you know what I mean? And my blessings and my talent that I had.

[DJ Wells]

People say that a lot of times they pursue their dreams, leave it alone. But how did you make that type of a transition? Because obviously, you know what I'm saying, you was a little successful in the field at first, and then you just like, fuck it. I got a chance in music. It's up to you.

[Saha Prince]

I mean. Cause I always wanted to do music before anything. I just thought. To me, I always thought the streets was like. I was disappointed I was in the streets. Like, man, how the fuck did I get here? You know what I'm saying? Like, nigga be, like, excited to be there. I be like, I had, man. I was really an athlete growing up. So.

[DJ Wells]

Varsity in two sports.

[Saha Prince]

Yeah, varsity in two sports. I was varsity in track and football. So I was on that. And then I got kicked out of school. Kind of dropped out after that, and then it was just shit, Pick up a pack. And then after that, my life just, you know, whirlwind, jail, shootouts, all type of foolishness. So I was just like, man, what can I do? And then my buddy had a studio in his garage, so I just went in there and just kind of was like, really just rapping my frustration as a. I was only 15, 16. So, yeah. What year did you start, like, taking that rap serious, though? Like, oh, I really got something. I can do something with this. I think I had to be, like, almost like I always took. Well, I started rapping when I was young, so I had to be like, ninth grade kind of vibe. But then, like, three. Three years after that, Four years after that, I was, like, on fire, just, like, throughout the industry. So I just started. When they started putting them numbers on the table with them zeros, I was like, hold up now. And I was just like, shit, okay. I could take this serious now.

[DJ Wells]

Hell yeah. Now you say. You know what I'm saying? You was on the field with it. What position you play?

[Saha Prince]

I played tailback and receiver. You know what I'm saying? I was him. I was him. I always tell people that where I grew up at, I had a. Before I went to high school, I played my little league team. 17 went D1. Like, 11 of them went to the league.

[DJ Wells]

Damn.

[Saha Prince]

And I was the captain, so I played with Reggie Ball, Craig Lumpkin, all them. So. Yeah, yeah, we was. Yeah, yeah, we were cold. So shout out to all them from the east side of Atlanta. Yup. You had some offers. I mean, I was supposed to go to Georgia. Georgia was crew me in the ninth grade. I was with him. Yeah, I went to Junior Olympics twice. I'm with him, bro. Respect. So you know what I'm saying? I know the sports. That's why I'm here. That's why you look on this. You know what I'm saying? I'm here to, like. I'm here to, like, let y', all do. You know what I mean? Respect.

[DJ Wells]

Damn. My boy was into Olympics.

[Saha Prince]

We ain't got no bars about that yet, man. You ain't flex that. I mean, you know, when I say I varsity of two sports, my reputation preceded me, you know what I mean? It was real. I was him on that for sure, man.

[DJ Wells]

Now, interesting. We bounce around a little bit, but, like, your sound being from Atlanta is totally different than what you would expect from somebody to, quote, unquote, be from Atlanta. How did you get your sound? What did you grow up listening to?

[Saha Prince]

Well, I couldn't really grow up listening to rap. So, like, I heard rap, like, in, like, the club party scene. Triple C, late ball. We would just party today. But I ain't. I couldn't listen to rap in the house. Damn. So I was just. I ain't had no music. My parents listen to gospel or jazz or whatever. That's what I could listen to. But I didn't get my first cd. I had a. I had a dude in my neighborhood. He loved rap, and he was, like, from New. I think he might have been from New York, New Jersey or something. And the first CD he gave me was Reasonable Doubt.

[DJ Wells]

Oh, yeah.

[Saha Prince]

And I was like, God, who is this? Then I started getting into Nas and I started. He just put me on a bunch of east coast niggas. And then what happened? Let me tell you what really happened. I was in high school, and we had an influx of, you know, east coast New York dudes moving to Atlanta. So they would have these little ciphers at the end of the hallway. And they used to embarrass all my buddies that was from Atlanta. And like, one summer, I was just upset with them niggas. I think at the end of the school, I just. One of them niggas destroyed one of my partners. I was like, you know what? Next year I'm gonna come back, I'm gonna get this nigga to business. So after that, I just went home that summer, just started working on some shit, right? I came into school. I'm flaming. So I just think after that, when I destroyed all the New York dudes at my school, I knew I had some.

[DJ Wells]

Damn, that's crazy. You go up from your first. So you listen to a reasonable doubt. To being on the song with him

[Saha Prince]

and Low Key Wash. Yeah, Low Key Wash. And I freestyled that. Like, a lot of people don't know. I ain't. I wasn't expecting to be on that song.

[DJ Wells]

Oh, you was just in the studio.

[Saha Prince]

I was just in the studio. I was bored. He asked me to write the hook on so Paul. So I was just like, I'm gonna just give him a little hook. And then after that, I was telling the engineer, like, move me to the 8 minute mark. Cause the song was only like. The lyrics stopped at like a minute and a half. So I told him, put me at the eight minute mark so I could just get my little freestyle off. And he heard it like two months later. Cause he was playing it for Jay Z and Beyonce, and he didn't press stop on the beat. So the song still playing in Pro Tools. Then my verse just come in and then, shit. Beyonce was like, whoever that is, you need to sign them. So.

[DJ Wells]

Damn.

[Saha Prince]

That's how. That's how I started. That was your first shot? Well, not into the industry, but working with. Yeah, it was my first thing, but I had deals with. I used to work with. I was signed by Jazzy Faye back in the day when I was in the group. Then I worked with Akon for a second. Then after that, that's when I linked up with. Yeah, okay. Yeah.

[DJ Wells]

You telling me you freestyled that verse, bro?

[Saha Prince]

Yeah.

[DJ Wells]

God had ipod playlist. Yeah, that was just on your spirit.

[Saha Prince]

Yeah, it might have took me about. Yeah, it might just took Me, five minutes kind of vibe.

[DJ Wells]

That's crazy.

[Saha Prince]

Damn, bro. You know, that's why I was kind of like. I wanted him to let me go in and. Really? But I was like, he already like it. Fuck it. Just go with it. So it was that dude. That was it. Yeah.

[DJ Wells]

I don't care how good you are, if you get a Beyonce cosine.

[Saha Prince]

Yeah, yeah, for sure, for sure. That's my Virgo sister. So. You know what it is?

[DJ Wells]

I looked at. I looked at the preview one time.

[Saha Prince]

I mean. I mean, we know, you know the Knicks in the house. You know the Knicks and the Hawks, man, play all time. Okay, okay. He wrestles. Okay. Oh, he wrestled. Oh, okay. Okay. All right.

[DJ Wells]

What you got?

[Saha Prince]

But we need. You need people like you in the crew, so. We appreciate that. We appreciate that. How was that being part of that good music group though? Like, at first I was like, that first year. Nah, it was your first go. No, no, no, it was cool. When we first got. It was camaraderie, man. To me, that was the craziest moment in hip hop kind of vibe. Cause it's like, it was almost like we was the Power Rangers or like Captain Planet some shit. All the powers combined for real. You know what I'm saying? We all just came together and then, I mean, it was really a learning to me. I always tell people, like, I don't like to say this, but I gotta say this. Cause it's just like my truth. By the time I met Holmes, I kind of gave up on rap. I was just happy to be out the street at that point. Cause it was just like I had, you know, growing up, I was signed to, like, some street dudes. So a lot of my early opportunities I wanted to have, I couldn't really get it all the way done because people that was affiliated with was kind of like making the record labels nervous and shit like that. So by the time I kind of just got all that out the way and, you know, got through the Akon situation, the Cap situations, it was just like, by the time I meet a genuine nigga, it was just like, bro, what you need me to do? Bring in coffee, carry the bags? I'm like, I'm on that at that point. You know what I mean? So everything after that was just like, I was just of service.

[DJ Wells]

Nah, that's hard, man. You was around for so much. Even that situation, like RP divergence, like you was around for that era. Like, I always tell people that Don C era, it was such a creative era. You got to Witness all of that and work for that. What was that like? Even not even talking about music, man.

[Saha Prince]

All of them was just super creative, bro. I mean, it was amazing to see. Like I was there when they created the Nike. I forget which one. That one, the one with the glowing, the gray one and the black one. The glowing dark. Yeah, one or two. Yeah, yeah, both of them. The first phone, the first Adidas, all that I was there for. But I always tell people, man, like, that was really yay, bro. His taste level and his style and he just, you know, radiates that kind of energy throughout the room. It's just. And you know, he. He bringing in the most swagged out shit ever. Like, for him to make one shoe, he might go thrifting around the world twice and bring in, I would say, 3,000 pair of shoes to make one shoe. Damn, that's crazy. You're gonna go to get every shoe from Japan to Australia. Bring that shit in the room. Be like, okay, I like the sole of that. I like the shoestrings on that. I don't like the tongue on that, but I like the fabric on that tongue cut that. You know what I mean? Like, he was on that level of thinking. So just to be able to see that process throughout all that with all them guys, it was just. It was cool.

[DJ Wells]

Yeah, that lineup was crazy, man. You, Sean, Chains was around. Push was around. Like, y' all really was a rap superheroes too. And N did not want y' all in the cipher at all.

[Saha Prince]

Absolutely not. Especially not me. You know what I mean? Especially not me. This album was fired. Yeah, for sure. Had my dog on there. Kills the world. Yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[DJ Wells]

Oh, oh, no. They still playing. We still play. R. Kelly.

[Saha Prince]

I know. I mean, he a legend, man. It Robert, he is where he is. Yeah, yeah, for sure. For sure. Being stupid for real, that's a classic song on that. It was crazy, man.

[DJ Wells]

That album is super. Make it to the studio.

[Saha Prince]

I'm trying to see what a side

[DJ Wells]

R. Kelly song sound.

[Saha Prince]

No, it don't sound. They got no sound to it that muted. Not. Not there. For sure.

[DJ Wells]

Y' all look stupid. Is it easier working on music for yourself or is it easier working on helping a pro team project?

[Saha Prince]

I would say myself, but to me it's just creativity. So I'm cool with it either way. You know what I'm saying? Maybe when I work on stuff with other people, they don't like to take as many risks as I would like some artists to take, you know? What I'm saying, so, you know, people kind of just go with what work. But me, for myself, I feel like I can just be, you know, creative as possible. Yeah. Do you pick those people like yourself or do, like, the industry bring them to you? Like, well, song for this person? Yeah, they come to me, but I don't. I don't work with all of them. I. If you ain't. If you ain't. I'm an A list kind of guy and somebody who, like, really want to be, you know, want to have somebody to kind of bounce ideas off of. But, you know, I mean, if you ain't that, I really ain't. I ain't really ain't doing nothing with you for sure.

[DJ Wells]

So you didn't wrote whole songs for people, like, and they.

[Saha Prince]

Whole songs, half a song, you know what I'm saying?

[DJ Wells]

They didn't do.

[Saha Prince]

They did bar for bar.

[DJ Wells]

They do bar for bar.

[Saha Prince]

Yeah, I done that.

[DJ Wells]

Like, when you hear, like, somebody, like, fucking with the song, like, yeah, that shit cold. Do you ever feel like, come on, bro, that ain't you. Like you ever felt that way?

[Saha Prince]

Nah, I don't feel the way because it's a process I learned from. Yeah, that I do. Whereas I make myself have to, you know, I need to be around the artist for at least two weeks to a month, you know what I'm saying? Just to be able to, like, know what you own, kind of know your vibe, what's your process, how you. I want to meet your parents, your girlfriend. Like, I need to know what you own. So when I write it, it don't sound like it's my verse. It sounds like something you wrote, you know what I'm saying? So I like to try to, like, you know, gather that information prior to going into the studio and working on something for an artist.

[DJ Wells]

What's the song that you were in the studio that came about as you was like, oh, this is the one. Oh, this shit's crazy.

[Saha Prince]

Two was Father Stretch and Syco Mode.

[DJ Wells]

Hey, man, Shout out to Metro. We was just in Vegas, and Metro played that as the opening song in his set, and everybody in the club lost their fucking minds. And I. You know what I'm saying? I'm gonna say for you, the person who had the hardest verse in this song should have been on that song. And it's just juvenile because my hands. It's crazy. If niggas not tapped in, tapped in, it's on SoundCloud.

[Saha Prince]

N. Oh, for real? Yeah, Damn. I did that in the car. I mean, I know somebody stripped that off the Internet. Damn. N. That was. Yeah. You know what's crazy, bro? It's like, I tell people this all the time. Like, I've been to shit for so long, when my verse get taken off a song, I don't even trip.

[DJ Wells]

Damn.

[Saha Prince]

Damn. I got a problem, bro. It's like, when you been that nigga since kindergarten, it be like, bro, I'm gonna put Big Sean on it. Go. Let Big Sean rap on it, man. Don't let Nas get that. Nas need this, you know what I mean? Like, I've been Nas, see? Literally, Nas been famous for 20 years. I've been famous for 20 years, too, you know what I mean? So I just never had that, you know what I mean?

[DJ Wells]

Biggest fan right here.

[Saha Prince]

Nah, for sure. I'm one of Nas biggest fans, too. Nas. I mean, I tell you a Nas story. I tell this story. I was in a cipher, and a dude came. You know, I was rapping, and this dude was teaching me how to rap. And he's the first person I ever heard. You know, back then, it wasn't no Internet or nothing, so we learned how to rap. Learning other people raps. You get what I'm saying? We couldn't go to the studio and rap our own rap. Ain't no fucking studio. So he rapped me. I gave you power. I made you vlog. Wow. When he told me that Nas wrote that and turned himself to a gun, that shit made me instantly lock in on, like, how creative I could be with music. So that Illmatic album, that was groundbreaking on everything.

[DJ Wells]

Yeah, you said Sicko Mo, though, man. That's a. Yeah. How was that? Like, how did that come about?

[Saha Prince]

Well, I think the beauty of it was I was around Trav for a minute, and we was just locking in. And the grace of God, he had to go to the dentist that day, so his mouth was fucked up. He couldn't rap. But he told me about this beat that he got from Hit Boy or something and was like, bro, this shit hard. I need some lines on this. That's why I kind of want to come on this vibe, you know what I mean? I want to do this, this, this. And then, you know, that was down the time. I think Kylie was there with him. And then I think, bro, it's so funny. Like, every time I do some of my most amazing shit, the artist I'm working with got his girl, and his girl want to go do something. So they either want to go to movies or out to eat or something. So they went out to eat or something. And then I just was just vibing to the record and I just, you know, came up with some lyrics for him and asked him what you think about D. I had a lot. He just kind of like, oh, I like this part. Oh, this verse. Hard like, you know, doing what producer artists extraordinaires do. So and then just, you know, I didn't know he was gonna put Drake on it, but once Drake got on it, it was up.

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[DJ Wells]

That was gonna be my next one. Drake already on the track, but you know it's gonna be far. Even before just cause of how far

[Saha Prince]

the beat it gonna be hard. Yeah. Cause it was the only thing like that on his album. And then I think Sylvia Rohn and Big John came into the studio one day. I think they was with like six, seven people. And he played his whole album and they just kept saying, play that sicko mode again. Play that sicko mode again. It was just like, oh, that's the one. That's a crazy feeling. Yeah, for sure, for sure.

[DJ Wells]

Damn. Too ex look like man, they supposed

[Saha Prince]

to be bigger, but you know what I mean. We gonna. We gonna take our blessings. How they go. It's like what royalties or you don't. Yeah, royalties. Yeah. We were just speaking to Camp about that. Like if you write a song, do you ask like this. This motherfucker cost 150,000 like that? Like do y' all go about doing some stuff like that or is it straight on the back end? Well, now, I mean, I kind of conduct my business like that. Cause I got, you know, enough cache in the game. But, you know, early on, they mistreated songwriters, you know what I'm saying? Because it's like, you know, most especially in urban or like, especially in hip hop, the artists don't be wanting you to know a helped them with the song. I'll be like, yeah, be like, bruh. Every artist got help with a song either if their partners was there or wasn't there. It's like, that's where we get our inspiration from. I used a lot of lines that I heard my OG say back in the day. Or my buddy smoking weed, he just said some funny shit. I might just throw it in the rap, you know. But in the black community, we don't look at that as contributing. We look at that as just niggas just here. Cause you know, we on professionalize. Nothing. Nah facts. So it's like we just kicking it. But now it's like, nah. Songwriters need more input. And I would give a lot of credit to ye for that too. Is like, by him being a producer, he was the first one that actually gave co writers credit. Like a lot of artists, they ain't gonna tell you they wrote, you wrote. You gonna give you this little check on the table. Nigga, shut up. Right? Yeah. That was Quinn Miller thing. It was like they was telling Quinn Miller he couldn't say nothing. They were saying that to me too, but I just ain't been that type of nigga to even take the art anyway. I want the art, the fans to think. Because a lot of the inspiration that songwriters do give to artists come from the artists. That's why we can tap in. Yeah. Tap into that. So yeah. Nah. Ye put all 40 niggas names on them songs. Oh, yeah, for sure. He show love. Ye give everybody credit. Nigga who bring in the coffee if you stay up long enough at three in the morning, you in there, he gonna give you credit. Like he give the most miscellaneous credit out. God damn it.

[DJ Wells]

Hold on.

[Saha Prince]

That's my preference. Yeah, bro. But he feel like the girl with the short hair came with the vibe. She dancing to the song. He need no publishing, but she don't gotta publish. I just seen a few songs. He the only one that got 40 people. Yeah. It's no way nigga would've had to get one word apiece, bro. Yeah. For this to be. But that's yay, yay. As ye respect everything in the room that's hard. Everything in the room. I done seen maids get percentages on shoes, you know what I mean? Like anything he do, if anything inspire him, he gonna give you something for it. That's hom he the first one that I ever seen do that. I'm like, damn home cold.

[DJ Wells]

That's crazy. Not to nerd out too much about it, but I want to ask. Cause my Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy is my favorite rap album of all time. Mine's too, understandably. So. Some of them sessions, like the Charlie Wilson shit, like what was that like with some of the stuff that didn't make it? It just seemed like the vibes around that time all together was just immaculate, man.

[Saha Prince]

That's ultralight beaming, bruh. For sure, bro. I mean, all those sessions, Alicia Keys, I mean, I seen Alicia Keys seen all of the lights Pregnant Swizz Beats, Nicki Minaj come in the studio. Like it was just. It was. It was the zenith of black music and culture all in one conundrum. Whatever you. You know what I mean? So I think that right there was just. That was the time to be alive.

[DJ Wells]

Is that something that could happen again or has streaming kind of ruined stuff like that?

[Saha Prince]

Yeah, but it just take the powers that be to like. I think it just takes us to kind of come together. I think, I think media kind of ruined it a little bit because it's. Media kind of like took away the mystique of artists. And you know, sometimes it'll get a little messy and kind of like tarnish artists when artists should still be kind of vague with their. And let the art speak. But you know, when music is blowing up, you got more publications, like people want to speak with you. And then, you know, you get to start seeing the flaws of these human beings that we so called looked up to. And then it kind of like taints the music.

[DJ Wells]

I think the only artist that like kept that kind of is like Jay.

[Saha Prince]

Right, right.

[DJ Wells]

Kind of kept that mystique about him. Like, even though people try to pull him into the media space, he don't never like, he don't give you shit. Like he might talk to one person one time every five years.

[Saha Prince]

That's true. But he show a little personnel. But you. Right, Nah, pseudo. But you know, the media start not playing your records and not supporting you too. So it's like, it just takes a balance. Like, I think as journalists, you know, we gotta kind of protect the artists sometimes too, versus, you know, a lot of times they wanna get A story, you know what I'm saying? They wanna get something out you. But I think it's a tasteful way of doing it and I think it's still early on into hip hop. Like I tell people, hip hop ain't number what, 50 years old. So I think we still getting some learning. But I think, you know, it'll come back around today. I think we'll get those times again. I think Drake about to drop. So. Yeah, Ye just dropped. Drake about to drop. I think the energy gonna be back. So it's a, it's a good time in music. Nah, summer Ms. Drake. For sure, for sure. Yeah, yeah.

[DJ Wells]

I mean to be real. I mean we feel how you feel about the battle, but it's always good. We got good music all around the place, especially Drake. Cause Drake is one of one.

[Saha Prince]

For sure, for sure.

[DJ Wells]

Now I don't know if it was AI or not, but did you see the picture of Ye and Drake?

[Saha Prince]

I did. It looked like Ye, but I don't know if that's him, you know what I'm saying? I ain't spoke to him, but I think, I think, I think, yeah. To me, Drake is great for the culture. I think to me, I just think he took the battle a little too serious. I was gonna ask you too, how you felt about like when artists, since you are an artist, when artists beef, like do you think sometimes shit kinda go too far or do you fuck with the sport of the little rap battle as long as don't nobody die? Well, it's a two parter question. I feel like one to me. I feel like we gotta professionalize music and especially rap. If you don't have a major record deal, you can't be called a rapper or artist.

[DJ Wells]

Damn.

[Saha Prince]

To me, you gotta be an inspiring. Like not even if you not as if you indie. I like YouTube basketball. I like the dudes on YouTube. Oh, don't worry, he gonna, he want to dap you up right now. I'm just saying the next chapter gonna see it's a little heavy.

[DJ Wells]

I'm just somebody probably see the goddamn truth.

[Saha Prince]

And I'm just saying like if a YouTube.

[DJ Wells]

Yeah.

[Saha Prince]

Basketball player got caught selling bricks, they'd be like, man, an NBA basketball player got caught selling bricks. Yeah, like, like hold on. For sure. So I think what about indie artists is like on his shit though? Good. I know a lot of them that Teague would be like, man, home got some game. Yeah, he ain't make it to the league because this is what I'm trying to say. It taints the sport. You get what I'm saying? If you a indie artist. Cause you gotta think. I'm saying, what if they got beef, right? Yeah, yeah. They killing and smacking each other. I hear you. Now they think those same kind of artists is the equivalent of what Drake and Kendrick going through.

[DJ Wells]

Yeah. Hell no.

[Saha Prince]

Insane.

[DJ Wells]

His levels.

[Saha Prince]

His levels to the. Them niggas is. Yeah. They make music on the side to kind of just pass the day by. So that's what I'm saying. Like, to me, the Drake and Kendrick thing was more professional. It should have stayed professional. I think the lines get bluer when we start, when artists start trying to behave like the inspiring the aspiring artists. But that's what I'm saying. Like. Like, I tell people, excuse me. If Dre would have been like, man, you know, that's one of the greatest rappers of America in America. He's good, you know. Woo, woo, woo, woo, woo. I got something else coming out. Boom. We would have took it as like, oh, and I feel like we would have got more records from Drizzy would have. But we didn't get that because niggas over there like, man, what we gonna do to this? It's a rap, bro. Rap your verse. You know what I'm saying?

[DJ Wells]

It's up. At the time period about. It was a different level of excitement because we was looking forward to them drops, bro.

[Saha Prince]

Yeah.

[DJ Wells]

That's what I was talking about. Think about the drop soon, but end up being kind of detrimental because we didn't have music and didn't want to drop music with. Damn her. A year, year and a half after that.

[Saha Prince]

Exactly. Exactly.

[DJ Wells]

Then the cold, cold. One of my favorite rappers, man.

[Saha Prince]

It's like, damn.

[DJ Wells]

Now don't nobody want to rap no more.

[Saha Prince]

Cause I'm like, what y' all doing? Like, niggas is good kids. Literally. Y' all ain't from. Y' all ain't grow up. Like, stop it, man. This ain't Pac and Big. Yeah. Ain't no like. Yeah. You might have recruited some real street niggas around you, but it's been real street niggas around us since we've been kids. That's a fact. And we've been dealing with that type of.

[DJ Wells]

Yeah.

[Saha Prince]

So not saying you guys ain't stand up men, but, like, let's not take it to the point where we gonna lower ourselves to an indie status. Like the indie artist. All right, now, hold on. So drive. Let's just go right here. What's up, man? What's up? So you sell. You're saying, take the high major record label over doing it the independent route. Yeah. It's never, ever gone. You're never gonna be that big of an artist if you keep going in the end, you know what I mean? I mean, what I'm saying is you can make money. But what I'm saying is we have to professionalize it to the point where it's like. It's like this Spotify pay out, like, I think 450 million a year. And it has to disperse to every artist that's on Spotify. So your sister could make 10 songs tomorrow. She can go to the guitar center, get a 25, $5,000 setup, sing 10 songs. Now, her album next to Beyonce's. Beyonce been running in heels and singing on treadmills all shit for 25 years to get this spot on Spotify or whatever. Nigga, what if I'm better than that? No, no, but that's what I'm trying to say. You gotta prove it multiple times. Like, she had to prove it. Like, I can say, yeah, I'm better than T. Right? But you gotta prove it in the eighth grade. Make your eighth grade. You gotta make it, jb. You gotta make your varsity. You gotta go to school. Red shirt. Yeah. You gotta go through the steps to be able to save. Because you gotta think this 450 million is being split up between 750,000 artists. I understand. You can't pain Kevin Durant. 20 million a year if it's 3,000 niggas on the bench. Like, when we get in the game. The only reason you can pay him that much is because it's only 350 of y'.

[DJ Wells]

All. Yeah.

[Saha Prince]

So what about the Rattler Russell to it, huh? What about the route of Russell to it? Yeah, I mean, he. That I would call that like, he playing in China.

[DJ Wells]

Got nigga Stephon Marbury.

[Saha Prince]

He in China, playing in China, he getting paid. I mean, but you still any. You still getting paid, but you ain't in the NBA, you know? I mean, you ain't no Sony, Universal Capital Interscope. Them the fold if you ain't on them. Nice dribbling hot sauce. But I'm just saying. Lovely lebron playing the heat tonight.

[DJ Wells]

I'm just saying, boy, heaven sent, man. Get well sooner the Russell, man.

[Saha Prince]

All right, man, I'm just telling y' all what God love.

[DJ Wells]

That's hard. I want to talk about your freestyles, man. You go to radio stations, man. You murder LA leakers everywhere. Yeah. And you shut down, like, every time you Do a freestyle.

[Saha Prince]

I get on Instagram or wherever I

[DJ Wells]

go and it automatically pop up, shout out to my boy Brandon Beasley. Every time you do a freestyle, he post it immediately.

[Saha Prince]

Appreciate that, Appreciate that.

[DJ Wells]

They be unbelievable every time, bro. Like, do you go there like, yo, I'm about to fuck this. I'm about to fuck the Internet up real quick.

[Saha Prince]

Yeah. So before I like, I mean I do like I write for like practice and rituals. So it's almost like it's like a pickup game, you know what I mean? I like to refer to like this like me going to a. You know what I mean? Little pickup game in the gym over the summertime and dropping 70.

[DJ Wells]

Yeah.

[Saha Prince]

You know what I'm saying? I'm the artist.

[DJ Wells]

Pro am shot.

[Saha Prince]

I'm Pro Am shawty. You know what I mean? I'm Drew Lee Shawty.

[DJ Wells]

So working on your game.

[Saha Prince]

So that's just me, just little bars that didn't make my album. I'd be like, you know what, I'm going to write a couple warm up raps and then I just, you know, I can remember them fast because the way I write them and I just, you know, remember then when people want something like, you know what I'm saying

[DJ Wells]

for sure about your cal, I wanna ask what's your favorite body of work or some of your favorite bodies of work? I know it's a lot to ask from me. I would say for me, the first time I heard you shout out to my boy Wes, he put me on to the first time Ivy League dropped. And the first time I heard that shit with Mike Will, I was like, oh, this nigga Cole rapping like this on the mike will be. Do you still go back in that catalog?

[Saha Prince]

I mean, I don't. You know what's so crazy about that time? Shout out to live mixtapes and Dat Piff.

[DJ Wells]

Come on man.

[Saha Prince]

Me, I would say me, Kendrick, Currency, Wiz, Crit, Shine.

[DJ Wells]

Blog era, baby.

[Saha Prince]

Whole, the whole blog era. We invented streaming low. What it was was we wasn't street pop rap to the labels. So we was all on major labels. They wouldn't just put us out cause they focusing on they a list act. So what we did was okay, we gonna go to Dat Piff, we gonna go to live mixtape and let them put it on they site and you can stream it from they site.

[DJ Wells]

Yeah, spinrilla.

[Saha Prince]

Yeah, spinrilla. You know what I mean? So we started getting so much notoriety on them sites. Apple Music and Spotify and Tidal came up with streaming and the record labels came up with streaming because they seen that they major artists was losing steam to the artists that they had on the shelf. Yeah. So that's how the blog era kind of came up. And you said y' all was the first. Yeah, we.

[Daniel Cormier]

We.

[Saha Prince]

Yeah. I'm just saying it wasn't no streaming before that. Piff and live mixtapes and Spin Real. I just was thinking about Soulja Boy. Him started Limewire. He was the first to do it. No, but I mean, he got discovered, but I don't feel like he put out projects, like multiple projects. He just had that one song that caught fire and then. You know what I'm saying? I can't wait.

[DJ Wells]

I can't wait to Soulja Boy.

[Saha Prince]

See, he went major. He got major record deals. He did.

[DJ Wells]

Immediately.

[Saha Prince]

Immediately. Yeah, he did.

[DJ Wells]

He got a major record deal.

[Saha Prince]

Soulja Boy is the first streamer in the world. Okay, we'll take that. We'll take that. You know what I'm saying?

[DJ Wells]

First do everything.

[Saha Prince]

Because Soulja Boy put that song out. He was 50 cent. He wasn't even Soulja Boy when he did that.

[DJ Wells]

Oh, yeah. If you get on any of them sites, boy, it was whatever song that when you played it, he was the first catfish.

[Saha Prince]

He the first catfish. Yeah.

[DJ Wells]

Oh, God. Crank. That played on everything.

[Saha Prince]

Yeah.

[DJ Wells]

So that was Viruses.

[Saha Prince]

Yeah, that was. That was genius. Oh, God. I ain't going to say that. That's one thing I can say that was genius.

[DJ Wells]

But be here. Remember them time period, like, especially when. When Meek was dropping the Dream Chasers. Chase, bro, they was everywhere but those major places and they was crashing sites.

[Saha Prince]

Yeah. Meek Mills, like. Yeah. He was on the freshman cover with me. Yeah. Yeah.

[DJ Wells]

Xxl.

[Saha Prince]

Yeah. So that's what. I mean, we all was. That's what brought screaming to the forefront. I think Drake kind of was the first major artist that took it serious, though. Like, I think Apple gave him a deal and stuff, like. Yeah, yeah. And then he was the first to kind of. That's when he's mad at him. Right.

[DJ Wells]

Not fucking with title.

[Saha Prince]

Yep.

[DJ Wells]

Yeah.

[Saha Prince]

What's that studio process like for you, though? You got like, a certain thing you gotta have in the studio. I used to, but now I can just go in there and just. Yeah, it used to be, you know, I mean, I do like flowers and candles and like that unorthodox Palo Santo and just look, you know, work with younger artists now. Yeah.

[DJ Wells]

Say that again. Candles. I don't know about the candles, man. He said you shouldn't have candles in your house, man. I ain't say you shouldn't have candles in your house, bruh. I don't know what. What I say about candles.

[Saha Prince]

I already remember a studio in the studio. That's a vibe. That's the vibe. I don't even want to get them on this, bro. Damn, man.

[DJ Wells]

Okay, what I say about candles? What he say about get you a plug in and call today?

[Saha Prince]

No, no, it was kind of sassy for to have candles. Yeah, you did. For real?

[DJ Wells]

Yeah. DJ say he like candles.

[Saha Prince]

Hey, I don't know what y' all talking about. Like, my candles is real candle. These ain't no. These ain't no family dollar. You know what I mean? Feel me? Yes, sir. $100 candles. Yeah. My penhaligon. Shit. Bitch walking my crib. Smell that Louis, baby. Like, yeah. Come on, baby. Go on and go upstairs now.

[DJ Wells]

Yeah, talk to him.

[Saha Prince]

So bath. The body works. Yeah, and I be having flowers all around the crib. It's a vibe, bruh. I mean, you might be. You far removed from that, probably.

[DJ Wells]

Nah, I live. I don't live nothing around my house.

[Saha Prince]

You know what I'm saying?

[DJ Wells]

Respect. That's all her.

[Saha Prince]

You was in the league. You ain't gotta have nothing. You was my nigga. Bitch. Fuck bitch. Espn, bitch. All right, now.

[DJ Wells]

Hey, no, no, no.

[Saha Prince]

You said jersey.

[DJ Wells]

Nah, I had to do that. I'm like. They go by All Star Jersey.

[Saha Prince]

Hey, you know what? So I want to say this to Tee. I was in. I don't know who ladies is ladies. It's just fellas, okay? I was in Miami. I mean, Houston with trial, and I think Houston played the Timberwolves. And I'm like, man, damn. It's three niggas on the court that hit my main three bitches. Damn. It was. It was. It was like, you know what? I love these, right? Me, my nigga, bro. We on the same taste, bro. I knew I could have made it to the league, man. All the Marshall. Yeah. Niggas be out there mad. I was like, don't mind niggas, bro. I ain't know who to root for that night. He's a dean. Yeah, bro. Didn't know what side of the gym I was on. I'm rooting for both. We all win. We all win. Damn. Team I that team. Oh, I thought I was a big player, like 12 that we need, you know what I mean?

[DJ Wells]

I wasn't on that team, you know? Be funny.

[Saha Prince]

They did the jersey swap after the game try.

[DJ Wells]

Why keep trying to put me on that team, cuz?

[Saha Prince]

I can't remember one, two it would be. I can't remember, but I knew it was all three of y' all got blurred. It was Joe hard as Pete. It was all the same. I was like the real big game for show. The real big. The real big thing. I'm a pin player, bro.

[DJ Wells]

We talk about basketball. Speaking of, you was talking about Lamelo, man. You talking about best PG in the easy.

[Saha Prince]

Oh, yeah, he the best. Man don't do that, though. Who? Lamelo, the goat I fuck with.

[DJ Wells]

There's no bigger fans than Star wars, bruh.

[Saha Prince]

This what they messed up this year, okay? At the trade deadline, we got Kobe. We appreciate Kobe.

[DJ Wells]

Shout out Kobe.

[Saha Prince]

White, you supposed to go get Lonzo. No, no, no, no. On T. Lonzo on.

[DJ Wells]

Over Kobe White.

[Saha Prince]

No, I said you get. You ain't getting Lonzo for nothing. He coming off the whoopi. Woo. What's the. He 2 mil?

[DJ Wells]

Yeah, he probably on that team next year.

[Saha Prince]

Cause the ball don't move. That's why Knipple start missing all those shots. Cause the coach, he playing canipple without Lamelo. He sent Lamelo and leave Canippo out there. Canippo can't get off. Get no shot off. He can't get run. No offense. You need Lonzo out there to. Oh, yeah, for sure. Okay. I ain't mad at that.

[DJ Wells]

I am.

[Saha Prince]

I ain't mad at that, man.

[DJ Wells]

Come on, bro.

[Saha Prince]

Wait till my Chino Hill boys get in the league. Yeah.

[DJ Wells]

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[Saha Prince]

Yeah, man. Every day, night with the lady, man. I rock my gold piece, man. So shout out to gld.

[DJ Wells]

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[Saha Prince]

For sure, man. Shout out to GLD some of your favorite Celebrities is tapped in with gld. Justin Biebers, Malik, neighbors, Michael Parsons, even ASAP Rocky, man.

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[DJ Wells]

Now Was you one of the rappers who was mad when Jello had to Slap. And they were just like, he playing with the game. You talking about. Was he one of the people who was. Know what I'm saying?

[Saha Prince]

Jello? Ooh, the real ball, brother. You say he was playing with the game?

[DJ Wells]

What you mean?

[Saha Prince]

Independent rapper.

[DJ Wells]

He in the Matrix.

[Saha Prince]

No, I mean. I mean, they. They gave a major deal. He like. He like flow rider, like pit bull. Like, he in that, like, shout out

[DJ Wells]

to Celsius, you know what I'm saying?

[Saha Prince]

And I mean, he. He a lower level. You know what I'm saying?

[DJ Wells]

But they made club like, man, we

[Saha Prince]

need Jello in the league, too, man.

[DJ Wells]

He want the.

[Saha Prince]

He put my Chino heels on, man. What squad would get my. We got to go to Sacramento. Is that what we got to go to?

[DJ Wells]

Listen, boy. Yeah, open gym in Sacramento.

[Saha Prince]

We gotta go to Sacramento, bro. They can't go there. Jello gotta go somewhere that they already polished. Nah, bro. If you get Lonzo and if you up by 30, put jello in on, bro. Let me tell y' all something. I seen. Let me tell you something. I think from four to five years, when LaMelo was in the ninth grade and Lonzo was a senior, all them players that's in the league when they play right now, we was whooping them by 40, and they all on the same squad. You got a big week. It's all five stars. We. We doing them by 40. Why we can't do them by 49? What changed in three years that y' all had?

[DJ Wells]

Big O, too, though, from the Hawks. Big O.

[Saha Prince]

Give us Big O, we'll trade for Big O.

[DJ Wells]

Man, y' all gonna get beat by 60.

[Saha Prince]

Man, I'm trying to.

[DJ Wells]

Listen, y' all gonna do Chrissy already with some smell sauce. They'll have to smell something else.

[Saha Prince]

You go. But they gonna be the worst team. No, I'm gonna tell you what we got. All we gotta do is figure out how to get Lonzo on the squad and trade for Zion.

[DJ Wells]

Oh, you want lamelo and Zion in

[Saha Prince]

the same locker room? So we talking about. Hey, no, we ain't doing that tonight. She got to stay at the room. We going up to Milwaukee. We playing Milwaukee. She gonna stand my kind of. You right. You right. See, they ain't got no. Ain't nobody. They ain't got no big bro on the squad.

[DJ Wells]

OG's on the horn.

[Saha Prince]

Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

[DJ Wells]

And then the coach.

[Saha Prince]

This last thing I want to say about the coach, bro. I just watched Tyree Maxey play 76 minutes the other night. This nigga still got Lamelo on his team on minutes restrictions. Hey, bro, don't take him out the game. If we lose, we going fishing. Yeah, facts. That's true, though.

[DJ Wells]

I fuck with that.

[Saha Prince]

100% agree with that. Yeah, he on the sideline with his arms folded, trying to do his little one, two like. Yeah, he should have he it up.

[DJ Wells]

The only one I know who like the Hornets like that.

[Saha Prince]

I love the horn, but I love. Bro, I'm a ball fan to the the death, bro. My boys need to be on the same. Braun messed up my Laker run, but we ain't gonna get into that.

[DJ Wells]

How, bro? Messed up the Laker run, bro.

[Saha Prince]

We had Lonzo, Queensfoot, Randall. Caruso. We out here throwing live. You're not taking into account that them got injured and, bro, Nah, bro. We was only 21, was young and hurt, bro. No, no. Cal Kuzma was the only really that stayed healthy on the spot. He was good. What you mean? I love Junior, but I'm telling y', all, them wasn't durable, bro.

[DJ Wells]

Can't want a chip, though. Got you a chip.

[Saha Prince]

I'm saying. Hold on, hold on. We don't count that one. That's. That's the asterisk 1.

[DJ Wells]

Oh, no, we're not.

[Saha Prince]

That's like the lockout chip.

[DJ Wells]

They don't count.

[Saha Prince]

I mean, it count. But it's everybody under the same sentence, though. No, it's like. Nah. It's like if I'm a 400 runner and you a hundred runner, right? And they make you run the 400, but you get to stop it. We gotta stop at the 200 and let you get your breath and recuperate. Then we run the next 200. You might beat me. That's true. But in the basketball game, ain't none of that. No, I'm saying. No, I'm saying if we play a full 82 break. When you took a break, that helped the veteran players. That didn't help the young niggas who got. Who need rhythm, who gotta stay in the thickest shit. Take shit. We can't get no pussy. Like, that's a part of. We gotta eat. Long John Silver's at Disneyland. It's like they won't let us bring no business in. It's like we can't have no playstate. It's like pissing the cup. We can't smoke no dope. It's like, man, you got it, bro. Said he was a juvenile trying to see they lady, man. Brian. Brian kept LA alive, bro. Y' all was Mid as. You would have kept that team. Don't do that. Oh, God. Y' all was the New Orleans Pelicans.

[DJ Wells]

Well, Y did trade half them together.

[Saha Prince]

That was the New Orleans. No, no, no, no, no, you don't.

[DJ Wells]

They let Josh Har go.

[Saha Prince]

Would have been okc. Oh, hell no. We would have been okay if we would have lost. Who the fuck is who?

[DJ Wells]

And Shay, if we would have lost

[Saha Prince]

for two to three years, we would have had what, three top five picks?

[DJ Wells]

Who is Shea?

[Saha Prince]

I'm just saying that's what we would have end up having. We would have had a lot of young pieces, a lot of top five picks. Cause we would have been in the bottom, y'. All. Yeah, I don't give a fuck what draft, what pick. Y' all would have never had. A Shay Cooker's on the Lakers, man. Shay is just talking about him. Don't do it. Why are you doing all this? Them foreigners last thing last. I grew up in the neighborhood, bro. We played basketball every day. Yeah, you probably fail twice a year. You know, you got the scars on your. Yeah, we never fail that much. They.

[DJ Wells]

Yeah, I was in Dwayne for all the time.

[Saha Prince]

It's a whole 20 minutes. He trying to punch it on the knee. Dwayne, he's trying to punch it on the neck. He ain't falling because he hit the screen. They just sliding on the wheel. So that's why I only watch highlights on YouTube. Watch the game, bro.

[DJ Wells]

Yo, support Lucas.

[Saha Prince]

Like, that's all you get, a whole game. It's like these be falling everywhere. I can't do the foreigners in the league. Another championship, bro. He got a conversation.

[DJ Wells]

It's time for some more comfortable conversations. Because he getting the third best PG of all time. Who the third best?

[Saha Prince]

Who the first two?

[DJ Wells]

Wardell. Magic. Magic. It's gonna be him and Isaiah Thomas.

[Saha Prince]

That third spot is you talking about. I mean.

[DJ Wells]

Cause Isaiah only got one final vp. He did go back to back as well.

[Saha Prince]

Yeah. I mean. Yeah. Show love. Yeah. Yeah. And that Lakers team would have never had no like that. I promise you, bro. I think y' all ownership, the way you thinking. OkC. Whooping oh, Lonzo would have locked him up, bro.

[DJ Wells]

You know what's crazy? Y' all should even get Lonzo. Y' all should have had Dear Fox. Yes, Y' all should have had Jason Tatum. I should have had.

[Saha Prince]

You're Jason Tatum.

[DJ Wells]

Yeah. Y' all should have took Jason Tatum.

[Saha Prince]

What you saying? In high school, we blew Fox and Tatum out. In college, we blew Fox and Tatum out.

[DJ Wells]

What happened with. What happened when y' all went UCLA against Kentucky?

[Saha Prince]

We playing with. Don't do that, sir. Ain't nobody from his squad make the league.

[DJ Wells]

TJ Lee pays for legend, bro.

[Saha Prince]

We beat this nigga with TJ Lee over there. All them is all American. McDonald's bring all Americans to the court. I'm gonna beat you with the white boy. You bullshitting. Ain't no way in you think Lonzo is with. It ain't even close, y'. All. No, no, no. What it is, is there's no team that'll let them play they style of ball, bro, we full court pressing. Get me them three. Get me. Who your three again? My father, my ball brothers. Okay, get me a Zion who can play my Draymond Green spot. I need a power forward who can pass. That's why I tell Bridges. I love Bridges, but Bridges don't know how to do the dribble handoff. He don't know how to run the action off the Draymond motherfucker. That's why we need to trade for Draymond. That's on the low low because Steph coming in two years when he is up because he got a retired Crip. Oh, ok. But we need to go get a Draymond who can play that fool who know how to pass just like Eli Scott did. And she know his. He was the poor man. Draymond.

[DJ Wells]

Why he know these fevers?

[Saha Prince]

Nah. All right, nigga, you tapped in. That's what I'm trying. Now you talking a bunch of bullshit. But you tapped in with and give me some. Like, what's my boy from Phoenix? Dylan. What's the light skin? Brooks. Give me some Dylan Brooks. I need seven other Dylan Brooks. So what team play basketball?

[DJ Wells]

I go be the league in Tex.

[Saha Prince]

So what team are y' all beating, though? No, put them niggas out east on the east side. On the East. Give me that. Don't make the playoffs, man. Put me on any for. You know who played like us. That's why they went on this 20. This last part of the year, we went on the run. Hollaburg and them did it last year. They kind of tried to play our game. See, it's gonna come into our game, but it's gonna be too late.

[DJ Wells]

They was pressing and stuff.

[Saha Prince]

Yeah, that's what I'm trying to say, but I'm talking about all game. We pressing all game stuff.

[DJ Wells]

You was gonna have the free agency. They gonna say, get me off this team. Play like this college.

[Saha Prince]

No, no, we Gonna. We gonna be hoisting up the. What is it called? They gonna be crying. Saha, if you think an NBA team is gonna press for 48 minutes, that's crazy.

[DJ Wells]

What you gonna do coaching the world?

[Saha Prince]

They threw it off the backboard, bro, in a 2, 2, 1. Bro, I'm trying to tell you, bro. That's why I said we need some G League.

[DJ Wells]

Oh, you just. Oh, you just talk about rap. We just talk about rap. Wasn't on the majors.

[Saha Prince]

Well, G. But the G League is still in the NBA. They like the. That's on the shelf at a major label. They like. They, like, still trying to get their album together. Label, vocal coaches.

[DJ Wells]

No, that's the niggas that don't play.

[Saha Prince]

That's the 13th. All right, bro, I'm just telling you what God love. We get. We get. We get our ball. We get to play our ball. We just put Lamelo and Lonzo together. I promise you, bro, they gonna run through the. Do it next year. I promise you. I like that duo. If Lonzo was healthy, I swear to God I'm wrong. Cause Lonzo healthy.

[DJ Wells]

Lamelo, he said he healthy.

[Saha Prince]

Nah, bro, it's just this. Lonzo, bro, is the old point guard, see, the new point guard want to do this. All they want us do is score. You know, the J Hard motherfucker. My boy Lonzo is here. Here. Here. He here. You know what I'm saying? Here he here. He. And then on the defensive end. I'm locking down. I'm locked down now.

[DJ Wells]

Saha, we had a conversation on the Morning Show.

[Saha Prince]

What's up?

[DJ Wells]

Who would you rather have between Lonzo Ball and Alex Caruso? Yes.

[Saha Prince]

Lonzo Ball.

[DJ Wells]

Who he picked?

[Saha Prince]

Caruso. Caruso, man. I'm going Lonzo Ball champion. I mean, yeah, he's a tag along. He's a tag along, bro. Okay, bro. Wait, wait. I got a feeling somebody. Cause you know, my boy already got his bag. Yeah, Lamelo. The next one is we doing the Giannis, so we ain't playing.

[DJ Wells]

Oh, we getting to bring my whole

[Saha Prince]

family, my auntie, uncle. Everybody gotta be on the squad or we ain't playing.

[DJ Wells]

Now, Charles Lee Bishop, in the middle of the season, you feel like he got that type of leverage now? He can make them calls.

[Saha Prince]

It might not even be with Charlotte. Keep playing with us. It ain't. You ain't. We ain't gonna even be playing with y'.

[DJ Wells]

All. Y' all gonna be in Sacramento.

[Saha Prince]

We're gonna be in Sacramento, bro. We gonna be who? Another team need us. No, Brooklyn Net Sacramento.

[DJ Wells]

I don't. I don't wish the Brooklyn. That's on nobody, man.

[Saha Prince]

If you give them to the ball boys, we. We. We. They g. They gonna be in the chip. You need a star. You need a. We put us out there with Michael Porter. Lamelo, Alonzo. Okay, but see if we don't run the league.

[DJ Wells]

Listen, man. Listen to. Yo.

[Saha Prince]

Listen to your team. He beat Michael Porter. Oh, God. We beat Bam. We beat Bam. What's my other on the Knicks?

[DJ Wells]

Shout out to my Deontay Von Knuckles. He beat Greg Oden in high school.

[Saha Prince]

Who?

[DJ Wells]

Dude we know named Knuckles.

[Saha Prince]

Greg Oden was. He was better than every ball, bro. Who Greg Holden. Is you talking, man, he's smoking wet dope.

[DJ Wells]

What?

[Saha Prince]

Greg. But he was just the first tall from Indiana. He went to the natty chip with the legs. Oh, number one pick, though, over Kevin Durant. Injuries got him. That's why I was about to get. Yeah, but I'm just saying, a big man, that's a generational. A big man gonna dominate. But when you get to the big league.

[DJ Wells]

He dominated college.

[Saha Prince]

He played against Al Horford, Joaquim Noah as a first pack Florida thing. You one of the best post defenders ever defender. Yeah, but you ain't making me work on the off. I ain't defending nothing. I'm just chilling in the plate. When you on offense, you ain't watching no basketball. You gotta play if you don't know the best. This is why my top five is Kobe, Jordan, Steph, Tim Duncan, LeBron.

[DJ Wells]

In that order.

[Saha Prince]

In that order?

[DJ Wells]

What the.

[Saha Prince]

In that order.

[DJ Wells]

It's a horrible order.

[Saha Prince]

Why? Why? Don't. Don't do that, bro. Hold on, hold on. Why the LeBron cause. Cause damn near sound like he barely made it. That's top five. Because everybody else homegrown. What the fuck that mean? I won my chips with the team I was drafted with. LeBron did, too. Yeah, he won. That's like a no, come back, bro. Don't do that, bro. Don't do that. I divorced, came back, and I made it right. I made it right. No, that ain't his team no more.

[DJ Wells]

We fixed it.

[Saha Prince]

No, no, no, no, no, no.

[DJ Wells]

We went to the lady

[Saha Prince]

Toby wanted with the team he was drafted to. Jordan won it with the team he was drafted to. Steph wanted with the team he was drafted to. Tim Duncan wanted with the team he was drafted to. That don't. That. That. That's it. No, see, are you saying is the best player or what are you doing in that the best players from championship team just because they won weaned finagle in the league to get it. We ain't finna call my boy. Come play with me. I fuck with the tape. You not doing that, bro. I'm not doing that.

[DJ Wells]

Ron Deborah had to.

[Saha Prince]

What you mean? Man? They wouldn't trade for people for Bron. No, no. Nobody want to go to Cleveland, brother. No, no, no, no. When Pal Gasol came to the Lakers changed shift of the whole organization. Stop.

[DJ Wells]

The Lakers was bad before.

[Saha Prince]

Stop. When you stay on the same team your whole career, you gotta reload and unload and reload and unload. That's what you gotta do. But they got the best. They went to go get his best friend and it changed. Pal Gasol, it's Kobe's best friend and he changed the game.

[DJ Wells]

And I said, hey, see, you gotta keep it real.

[Saha Prince]

Take your glasses off.

[DJ Wells]

They got who they got? For real. Your favorite player, Lamar. Hello.

[Saha Prince]

The difference maker, man. Listen, man of the year. You talking about. You ain't never seen that Fan was not that, bruh. He had a nice finesse game. He had a nice finesse game, but he had it. Cause Kobe was teaching him about spots. He was teaching him how to be a winner. He wouldn't have been that without Kobe. He would have been stuck in Memphis. Nobody wouldn't have won a championship without him. He was the most important player after Kobe. We was going to get somebody. I'm Kobe.

[DJ Wells]

Andrew Vinyl.

[Saha Prince]

You had to get somebody that fit Kobe's program. Everybody couldn't play with Kobe. Okay, well, I found one that could play with me. Right? But I'm still. I didn't go play with him. He came to play with me. But I'm saying, you discrediting the pieces around niggas. No, I'm not saying they all NBA players. Nah, fuck all that. I'm saying Pal. Pal was cool. Pal was an all star. Deservingly, bro. Yeah, he was cool. Pal used to cook niggas, bro. Like how Chris Bosh was important to that Miami Heat team. Listen, bro, just as important as Pau Casar was to that Laker. You said who was important? Chris Bosh. Okay, yeah, yeah, I'll take that. Yeah, they get that chance. Chris Bosh was like top 15 player when he went to that team.

[DJ Wells]

He was.

[Saha Prince]

Paul Gasol was not no top 15 player. Oh yeah?

[DJ Wells]

Yeah, he was.

[Saha Prince]

Chris Boss was a nine time all star. Yeah, he was cold. He was cold. No, he was cold. I'm just telling the same type of impact that they had on their team. But I'm just saying I come from cold. You act like pal Gasol was. I'm not saying. No, no, he was garbage. No, you. No, you're not saying he's garbage. You're saying like he was super mid. And then when Kobe got him, he was. I mean, he was a B minus. Kobe took him 8-10 in Memphis.

[DJ Wells]

In the air, power forwards, he was like Kevin. He was like Kevin Love before Kevin Love.

[Saha Prince]

Yeah, okay, I'm glad you said that.

[DJ Wells]

Kevin Love was killing before he went to the. That's crazy. Kevin Love still the league too.

[Saha Prince]

Niggas had to sacrifice their numbers to play with these star players, bro. And you taking away from them. Him. That's what I'm trying to tell you. He got in Memphis. That's cuz he. No, don't say. But you got more shots in Memphis. You the man. Kobe got you better shots and more efficient shots. Cuz everybody doubling me is reading the numbers, bro. Everybody doubling me. I'm Kobe. He went over there and did the

[DJ Wells]

same thing he been doing.

[Saha Prince]

Kobe didn't do nothing for him. No, I'm saying he got it more efficiently. Kobe was over there. He took more shots when he was in Memphis. Cause he was the man.

[DJ Wells]

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[Saha Prince]

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[DJ Wells]

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[Saha Prince]

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[DJ Wells]

Don't go down the rabbit hole.

[Saha Prince]

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[Saha Prince]

That's what I'm trying to tell you. He was the man.

[DJ Wells]

All right, we gotta move on from this subject. Let us know. Y' all my pog man, for sure. All right. Rookie of the year. Obviously you a Hornets fan. Cone he gotta share. Absolutely.

[Saha Prince]

Who am I sharing it? We not sharing it.

[DJ Wells]

Be here. That's he Cooper flag. Gotta get that Rookie of the year

[Saha Prince]

N. I love side of death. Nah, but his usage rate too high. I got y' all be having a lot of usage rate players and be acting like they really them.

[DJ Wells]

Kobe had a high usage rate.

[Saha Prince]

No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. He had a high shooting rate. No usage for me. No, no, no, no, no. LeBron had a high usage rate cause he. Westbrook had a high usage break.

[DJ Wells]

They dominate the ball, but they average 10 assists. 11 assists.

[Saha Prince]

Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Kobe job. My job is to put the ball in the bucket. Derek Fisher's job is to bring it up the court. You want to know why Derek Fisher always hit game winning shots? Because he has sweat equity. You know what sweat equity is? It means you get to touch the ball throughout the game.

[DJ Wells]

That's true.

[Saha Prince]

You get what I'm saying?

[DJ Wells]

See?

[Saha Prince]

And then like LeBron and Westbrook, I'm just. I put LeBron at 5. Is because if I'm on your team and I get paid 20 million a year to get 10 rebounds and now I play with you only get 6. Cause you come to snatch them off the board every time. Trying to get my fucking family paid. I can't be the point guard. Williams can't be. My players can't develop. Cause you do everything.

[DJ Wells]

So when people say you mad at them cause they can't.

[Saha Prince]

No, I'm saying when people say LeBron didn't play with nobody, it's like, no, you wouldn't let nobody develop. Cause you do everything. You shoot the ball, you pass the ball, you rebound, you defense. It's like, damn, what we at, man? We might play by himself.

[DJ Wells]

So would you say he a better player then?

[Saha Prince]

Huh?

[DJ Wells]

Would you say he an overall better player?

[Saha Prince]

I would say he wanted to be A better player. He wanted to be an overall better player. But most niggas want to play with they. When you want to win, we want you to do your job. Kobe do my job. Derek Fish, you do your job. Ori, do your job. It's like big shot Derek Fisher averaged like three assists. No, no, no, no. He didn't. Don't do that. He did. Don't do that.

[DJ Wells]

He wasn't a high assist guy.

[Saha Prince]

I mean, I'm not saying he has probably the worst. He got at least five assists average. They got at least five assists, bro.

[DJ Wells]

Let's look up Derek Fisher stats, please.

[Saha Prince]

And we played the triangle. So Derrick Fisher never average the triangle. It's a lot of hockey.

[DJ Wells]

It's a lot of hockey.

[Saha Prince]

See what I'm saying?

[DJ Wells]

It's a lot of isolation.

[Saha Prince]

That's why I think should get a half of assist for screen.

[DJ Wells]

Oh, 2K assist.

[Saha Prince]

Yeah. I feel like if you and a score, you should get a half of assist. Yeah, about five. He be with a roundup. What for his career. Oh, yeah. Could we run? I told. Can't get the. He's a starter point guard. Oh, my mom. I could have passed. Hold on. Time out. Time out now. Time out. No, no, no, no, no. Let me tell you. Don't do that. Don't do that. They skewed. They skewed. Now you know now. Now you know the assist back when, when Kobe and them play, you had to pass it and you had to go up with it.

[DJ Wells]

No, I looked at John Stockton stats.

[Saha Prince]

No, you didn't have to run it down.

[DJ Wells]

No, I'm talking.

[Saha Prince]

We find them a lot now get assist. Pain away. These things. Get that.

[DJ Wells]

It was a lot of isolation. Kobe and them get. They just. He just brought the ball up, threw it to Kobe and cut to the.

[Saha Prince]

I know it was. It was. But I feel like when you playing in the triangle, it's a lot of hockey assist. So it's like you got to read the defense is different. But yeah, I just feel like pass the ball on the. I just feel like he brought the ball. I'm just saying he was involved in the game sweat equity, you know what I'm saying?

[DJ Wells]

He definitely got the. Bring the ball up the court.

[Saha Prince]

Yeah, yeah, you gotta have that sweat equity, bro. Cause. But so you can ball off the rim like junior and run the wrong way. Cause you ain't got the ball. This Nigga's been dunking on 360. Now I get the ball off the rim running the wrong way. Cause I'm. I'M like, where the holes at tonight? He done check that. He done checked out the game. He ain't got no sweat equity, you know what I'm saying?

[DJ Wells]

I gotta with that. I gotta with that.

[Saha Prince]

I with that. Hey, man, I'm just. I do this sports, man.

[DJ Wells]

Yeah, I with that. But for sure, I think, bro. Yeah, I with that.

[Saha Prince]

People think I be disrespecting them because I say he five. No, that's your five. That's your five.

[DJ Wells]

We just seen Brian. No, I'm saying throw a oop to his son in the playoffs. Yeah, he gotta be top three off that alone. He made his own teammate, bro.

[Saha Prince]

He Fool 41, bro.

[DJ Wells]

The best player on.

[Saha Prince]

You know Luke Canard played with on LeBron's AAU team. Yeah. No, no, what I will say LeBron is the greatest. I feel like he is the greatest and the best athlete to ever live, though. I will say that. Like, if you had to tell every athlete to swim, play golf, football, baseball, he gonna average out the best. Yeah. Just off physique, he gonna do that. But basketball, he number five. You know why I focus on this, though? Because you got reasons.

[DJ Wells]

Yeah, he make you think about it a little bit.

[Saha Prince]

I appreciate you. My last one before I. I don't want to talk y' all to death about Kobe. Rest in peace. Kobe is the best out of all of them, and I'm gonna tell you why. When Jordan came in the league, niggas was playing the Congos. When they dribbled, Jordan was the first hit a nigga with this here, that. You know what I mean? That cuff on it right now, the Dream team go all the way around the world. Eric, Kid want to be like Mike. Wanna be like Mike. Kobe, B. Every nigga want to be like Mike. Tracy McGrady, Vince, Carters, your Penny Hardaway. I'm talking about your six, six, five to six, eight, two guards. Eddie Jones. Eddie Jones.

[DJ Wells]

Yeah, Eddie Jones.

[Saha Prince]

Jordan was playing like Jon Starrs, Hornason Dumars. These niggas sick one, sick two, Jordan six, five, six, six. Kobe beat all the niggas that wanted to be like Mike, and they were still six, six, six something. Kobe giving them nigga 40.

[DJ Wells]

That's a good point.

[Saha Prince]

All right, man. What you think LeBron did?

[DJ Wells]

I'm about say what you think Bron did.

[Saha Prince]

LeBron playing out of position. Is the least athletic player on the trip. Everybody know that. LeBron agrees. The gotta switches brought a small forward, bro. No, he a power forward. If you lined up everybody, if we went to the Street. Street. And playing street basketball, LeBron would be our Power 4. He done brought Horse Grant out to the top of the key to the three point line and driving the ball on him. Horse ain't got no fee for. Yeah, you got the five all the way in the corner. Like when. When you see Jordan Duncan on. It used to be male Herpet Matombo, 7, 1-7-foot. Levon don't need sixes. 6, 6, 3. Under the basket like this.

[DJ Wells]

Yeah, don't go to a dunkin.

[Saha Prince]

Punched on that. Yeah. And I got what Tim Duncan said you can get on YouTube right now, but you switch. Yeah, we gonna let you punch. That's the point. We gonna let you get a couple on, but we gonna win. This chip, though. We grown players, niggas we drafted. We ain't trade for these niggas. We develop these niggas. You didn't develop Paul Gasol. No, I'm saying, I'm just. You developed Andrew Bynum.

[DJ Wells]

Shout out Andrew Byno.

[Saha Prince]

We developed Ginobili. We didn't develop Parker. Rick Parker. We developed Bynum. You didn't develop Kawhi. Yeah, Kawhi was drafted by the spurs, but I ain't gonna say that he do. They do.

[DJ Wells]

They did.

[Saha Prince]

They definitely did. All developed.

[DJ Wells]

Oh, they got Kevin Durant, too. Kevin Durant, that's a hell of a blessing.

[Saha Prince]

But they did win without Katie. Let me tell you something. Let me tell you something. Clay, Steph. Okay? Steph was a lottery pick. Yeah, lottery Clay, he was early lottery. Clay was what?

[DJ Wells]

Lottery.

[Saha Prince]

Fourth pick.

[DJ Wells]

No, Clay was a lottery.

[Saha Prince]

He was.

[DJ Wells]

Clay. 10, 8, 11. Yeah, he was high.

[Saha Prince]

You sure?

[DJ Wells]

Yeah, I swear. He was a lottery pick.

[Saha Prince]

Yeah, fact check that, bro.

[DJ Wells]

Clay Thompson. Clay was lottery.

[Saha Prince]

He was lottery.

[DJ Wells]

Yeah, he was lottery.

[Saha Prince]

Draymond. What Was Draymond.

[DJ Wells]

Draymond was second rounder. Yeah.

[Saha Prince]

Okay. Know what I'm saying? We won 72, cuz. We. We went to church together, bro.

[DJ Wells]

He's a loving pick.

[Saha Prince]

Well, that late. We'll take him. We'll take him, but LeBron, he got hall of Famers on the court.

[DJ Wells]

They all got hall of Famers.

[Saha Prince]

No, no, I'm talking about hall of Famers before you met him. LeBron. Chris Bosh was on the hall of Fame trajectory. D. Wade, hall of fame trajectory.

[DJ Wells]

Yeah.

[Saha Prince]

AD hall of Fame trajectory.

[DJ Wells]

Talk about when he took that 07,

[Saha Prince]

Kyrie hall of Fame trajectory.

[DJ Wells]

Go. PG.

[Saha Prince]

Kevin Love hall of Fame trajectory. What about when Bron took that 07? Like Kyrie Iverson in there. Oh, you talking 07, remember? Yeah. I mean, high, renewable. I mean, you know, very huge. Listen, outside of the top three teams in the East. Outside of the top three teams in the east, everybody under 500 for 10 years straight. Everybody under 500. Not true. 39. And I don't. Even with the east side. Am I lying? 25 and 90 at the seven seed.

[DJ Wells]

No playing.

[Saha Prince]

No play. For real, bro. No play. I'm just saying what God love. East was bad, but. All right.

[DJ Wells]

Before we get out of here, son, I gotta see how you feel about some of these things, man.

[Saha Prince]

All right?

[DJ Wells]

Who you got winning the chip this year? Who's taking it? Okay.

[Saha Prince]

Who I want or who I got?

[DJ Wells]

Both.

[Saha Prince]

Who I want is Cleveland.

[DJ Wells]

Yeah.

[Saha Prince]

Who I. Who I think gonna win it? I'm going Boston. I want Boston to beat okc. Cause y' all talking all this sga. What are you looking at me? I'm going Boston.

[DJ Wells]

Going Boston.

[Saha Prince]

Respect. But I want Cleveland, though. Come on, James, get us one. I would love to see James get one.

[DJ Wells]

Me, too.

[Saha Prince]

Yeah, for sure. Yeah.

[DJ Wells]

Are you a Falcons fan? Everybody do that to the Falcons.

[Saha Prince]

That is crazy. I mean, we Falcons fans. Cause we just from Atlanta, so it's like. You know what I mean? It's like we here. Yeah.

[DJ Wells]

Bijan Cole, though.

[Saha Prince]

Yeah. Yeah.

[DJ Wells]

We need.

[Saha Prince]

We need a real quarterback, though. Who? Paraplegic. Don't do that, bro. He might not make it. He a sack away, man. That.

[DJ Wells]

That's.

[Saha Prince]

That. That might fall on. Might jog onto the field or something, like happen to him. Come out the tunnel.

[DJ Wells]

Yeah, I'm about to tell her out for the year.

[Saha Prince]

Yeah, bro. Crazy, not paraplegic, man. We appreciate you, though, son. Nah, for sure, man. I appreciate y', all, man.

[DJ Wells]

Long time coming, man.

[Saha Prince]

Big fan of y' all show, man. Yes, bro. I. I'm a Teague fan. That's perfect, bro. You know what I mean? Like, I'm an Atlanta house family, you know, My favorite basketball player was Mookie Blaylock Cole. You know, he was the original Teague Cold. You know what I mean? So I go back that far from Atlanta, so. So I appreciate that, bro. I watch our show all the time. Y' all hilarious, and y' all got good taste. And your brother not here, man.

[DJ Wells]

Yeah, he's somewhere.

[Saha Prince]

Yeah, yeah. Oh, man, you gotta tell, man. I was looking for him, bro.

[DJ Wells]

For sure, man. Listen, man. Happy we can make this finally happen. Show, man. Saha, the Prince. One of our favorite rappers. One of your favorite rappers?

[Saha Prince]

Yes, sir.

[DJ Wells]

Tap in new projects on the way.

[Saha Prince]

New west story of Mr. EGOT two months. We rolling it out. Let's get it.

[DJ Wells]

Tap in Club 520. Shout out to our sponsors one more time. Boost mobile family. Tap in with Saha. He told y' all. It's time to spin the block, sir. Might have to pay for this one. You know what I'm saying? But you know what I'm saying. We gonna make it back for show. Shout out to StockX and shout out to Hard Rock Bet. Until next time, we out.

[Saha Prince]

Peace the volume.

[DJ Wells]

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[Saha Prince]

Boom.

[DJ Wells]

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[Saha Prince]

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