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All right man, we back another episode of Club 520 brought to you by Boost Mobile. I'm your host. My name is dj. Well, same gang with me. To my left, we got my dog, Bishop B hen out the prayer leaves.
How you.
What Nasty shouting family get to it.
Man, for sure, my boy. You know what I'm saying? Twitter hall of fame right now doing stupid numbers, man. Shout out to Biz.
Yeah, shout out to Biz, man, you got my picture going up, man. I appreciate the love though, but y' all got the chill. Please chill or resurfacing all of our old clips, man. It's getting wild. It's getting.
Well, I'm gonna say anytime they go back to the old 520 set, you know it's never good.
I gotta be careful touching this. Y' all said I was on some other.
Oh, yeah, the bts. Please don't post that nasty work to start this episode.
I try to fix my mic. This come off y' all, and I brought it back in there.
You want me to introduce you after that?
No. Anyway, this show is brought to you by Boo Smoke.
Shout out to boo smoke, baby 25, you know the vibes. To my right, my dog, Young Nacho. Young T. Y, you what?
I'm chilling, bro. Fresh out of June ball practices. You know, back into the swing of thing.
Not to speak too much on the team, but how you feeling about June ball?
June ball? Man, I just like to get the kids back in the gym, you know, See em. You know, they be at aau, bring some structure back to their life, you know. They don't do no structure in aau. They just be having fun. And then you can tell. You can tell.
It's always funny. Cause I see coaches always say it's like when the kids go to the grandparents house with a you a high school ball. That's like, I gotta unlock all the bullshit you do in the summer. Puts you back in the winning basketball.
That's the perfect shit. You gotta rediscipline again.
That's a fact.
I like that.
And they be mad at you. Cause you like, bro, that ain't gonna work. They like, I've been killing aau. I'm like, bro, y' all know y' all wake up at eight in the morning and play a team who ain't did no scouring for it don't care. They just coming out here to run up and down with y' all. Somebody trying to get 30. Yeah, if I be killing AAU, that's. That's. That's fake.
Yeah, I promise. Nobody's really worried about wins, losses in.
The AU at all.
Only the undefeated teams post that. Undefeated everybody else, it does not matter at all.
But shout out to them, man. It's going to be all right.
So, man, shout out to boys. Big season on the way. Hey, man, I wanted to ask. First things first. Start off with the bullshit. Have y' all seen this? Please roll the clip, man. Oh, Lord, the Barbers. They struck again, man. The Barbers, man.
Who somebody a barber?
Yeah, man, they getting wicked out here in these barbershops, man. Everybody with the beers, man.
Oh, nigga got waves.
That's what y' all keep putting me in on Twitter. I didn't know who. I thought he had a shiesty. First of all, a low Caesar shiesty.
A beer Durag is already dangerous because that definitely looks like a ski mask. But for you to have waves, your beard is crazy.
It's just laughing though.
A beard.
He got the dumb bitches jumping.
He got all the Murrays in that ho going crazy.
Y got to put this in the show so people know that we talking about a beard dude for sure.
Please just clip a picture of him. A steel picture of him.
I wonder what's the thought process behind that.
Like, told you go get ball, bro. They get bored, bro. You wave up your beard. It's insane.
He still won't go to the shop and okay, hey, when I found out.
That people was paying like 100 plus for like baldies, I said, what we doing, man?
I would never pay to get my hair ball. I would just cut my myself.
You can go to Miami and get the laser. Laser your should be bald forever. They'll take out all if you got that roundabout, they'll take all that out.
Damn.
Yeah, one time. So, Jeff, you know I know you soon. You said you gonna cut your off my ain't soon. No, you said when you said when I'm 40, I'm.
I ain't gonna ever go ballto. I'm with Kobe and I'm going to Turkey. I got money.
Remix.
I'm gonna fight that fight.
Are you really gonna for on some real shit?
My gonna be swole. You see Come to Turkey, swole every come back, I'm come back. I'm be on that plane with that sw. Whoa ass forehead.
Do you think you really go get a hairline though, bro?
Hell no. I don't give a that much about this.
Your ass ain't going all the way to no bro.
Once my is done, I'm done, bro.
The Lord give you what you got, bro. Once it's done, it's done. Y' all been saying boys getting the head tats now.
Why y. I ain't get tatted.
They got the head tat, bro.
Like.
Like the hairline, but they get some crazy.
Got that, bro. This don't look bad either.
Oh, Tuck. Yeah, yeah, he got that.
Yeah, that ain't bad.
No, I'm talking about, like, real tattoos, though, not just like. The line is getting, like, dragons and all types.
That's clowning. I just get the regular line, though.
And get your cut down now. Out here getting the trash, bro.
Tattoos all over the head, bro.
My PJ got a permanent lineup. I With that.
No, that's hard.
Yeah.
If you have money, use it. That's the whole point of it.
Yeah, I. I never mind. I'm Michael Jordan. This.
You wear hats every day anyway.
No, I don't. I only wear hats on here. When I'm gone, I don't wear my hats.
We went somewhere where you go, we ain't have on. You didn't have on no hat. You've never did an episode. You didn't have on hat on Vegas when we did them episodes. Oh, on the episode. No hat on for the episode.
Yeah, I probably had, but.
Well, y' all legit. Need a hat deal.
I've been trying to get one for.
No, I got.
Did you miss the whole point of the show?
We ain't thirsty, y' all, but we thirsty.
I've been trying to get. That was his first deal at some point. What's the first deal I ever said I wanted to.
Said I need somebody to come through.
With lids, seal the deal. I want to wear a hat. I'm going to wear a hat every day. So somebody gives a hat deal. Oh, dude starts sending us hat. I'm like, hey, it's working. And we still ain't got a hat deal.
Please bless the crew, bro.
But now we've been out in Vegas. I don't wear. I don't. Obviously, I own coaching a hat because.
We probably didn't did over 300 episodes. Yang Dore hats them near every one of them, bro.
Yeah, I probably wore hat every episode.
Vast majority between us not having the shoe deal and the hat deal is criminal.
Yeah, I gave up on shoes.
What would y' all want first?
I just wear was literally at the door. Oh, shooter me hat deal. I got enough shoes.
I'll go buy hats, run the shoes.
But it depends who the shoe brand is.
That's the topic.
I would have a manufacturer if it was a conglomerate, like a store that had Multiple brands.
They got hats and shoes.
Maybe this is a product.
Let's speak this into existence. Just tap in with us. The best of both world love.
I don't know if that's.
But I'm R. Kelly fan. I'm the R. Kelly fan on the show. Look at he got R. Kelly song.
I like J. I like Jay Z. Yeah. C. Hey, you know, they never bring that up.
They talk about collab albums.
I wonder why this man, I'm sick of. Put it on. You all go say so.
Shout out to boost mobile, man. $25 nationwide. A guaranteed 5G. Guaranteed $25 for sure. They want a Nextel shirt.
Yeah. Boost mode I.530 tap in.
Yeah, they trying to tap into that old Boost vibes. I'm with the new Boost. I need a new iPad. I need that boost mobile 5G. So when I travel.
But y' all also forgot.
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Three months with Boost Mobile was $15. You didn't go to $25. That's a hidden secret for y' all. You know what I'm saying? Y' all probably didn't know that.
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Out the gate.
Facts.
Y' all fried, man. I love the way we do ass. Now shout out to the team.
Nah, for real, though. I'm really sure. Like, I really want them to. Like, I'mma get a plan because I want to do playback on the road. And, you know, if I got the 5G nationwide, I can do it at any time. Because people like Low talking shit. Yeah, I was. I was Segway into some. You little fat.
Well, what a segue.
I told you I could be me. I want to get on playback little.
With Low.
His little chubby ass pulls. We gonna talk our. Because he got me up.
But he did a breakdown. Basically saying, like, just because you winning the east, just cause you played against LeBron, bro, don't mean you gonna go out west and do your thing.
All right? So he was. I just said that we play. If we played that OKC team, we'd be all right because we play LeBron. And that if you can play LeBron. We got swept by LeBron. But I don't think nobody in the world as good as LeBron that plays basketball. Right now at that time.
Yeah. He took that way, way left and just put y' all in the game and was like, they beat your ass broke.
Yeah.
You know, people that can't play basketball, they usually do like that.
Respect.
I remember when you can't play it no more, you kind of coach it. When you never played it before, you talk about it.
What is your real analysis though on that though?
If you can't play basketball, you can talk about it.
Nah, nah, nah. That's. It depends. But I'm talking about like the real matchup between you sga, Chad.
No, I don't think I'm better than sga. What I'm saying is we were a team.
Yeah.
So we were a good team. And we played against really good players at that time. They were. They're good. They're a great team. But their numbers, historically, like our historical numbers, but they're not playing against what would you call the greatest players ever. We just said us as a group said our era was probably the greatest players ever. Like a group of players, obviously Michael Jordan and them, whoever they ranked. But our group of players at that time, most of them are top 75 that were good at that era.
That's a fact.
What do you. Do you think that team with you, Al Paul, or the team with you, Josh and Joe? Which team you taking against?
Oh, if it was a team with Josh and Joe and them and Jamal and all them, we would definitely beat their ass then. But we just ran up a team against teams that were just too fucking. Like, we played the Bulls with Derrick Rose.
Right. I forgot to ask you that. Which team you would take against.
Yeah. Now, if I said my best Hawks team. That is my best Hawks team. We had Jamal, Josh, all them. That was the best Hawks team. I was a young pup too, but I'm just that team. That team was ahead of his time. Cause we played small ball like Al was the five. Marvin, they all switched every ball screen. They did all that shit already. So that team was made for this era.
Yeah. I honestly don't see nobody on that team fucking with Joe.
Hell no.
Too big.
We would have posted, man, he would have got that switch and posted shit out of them. And we could guard him. We was the same size. Like, they would have switched 1 through 5. Like our switches wouldn't have been Rudy Gobert. Our switches is Al Horford, who been switching on the guards, who was still.
Switching in the year 76 against LeBron.
James, you know what I mean? And like that team was a fire ass Team. I ain't gonna even lie. Even like when we traded Bivy and got Kurt Heinrich, that's when Captain Kurt. That was still a fire team. But yeah, I mean, I'm not hating on SGA and they raw, they nice.
No, you ain't hating. You ain't hating. That was just a topic that, you know.
Yeah, but I'm a ride for when I played before. I be like, I don't give a fuck. I can be unrealistic all I want. That's the beauty thing about it. I played low D. He just watched.
No, that's true.
And they killed Low. When he said Reggie Mo was a role player, they was on his ass.
He said, wait, wait, I was just playing.
He's like, nah, fuck you take a.
Step back when you can't play, you just talk about it. And ain't nothing wrong with it though. I respect it all.
Shout out to low, man.
Shout out to low. Speaking of basketball, I want to ask how y' all felt about this? I seen, you know, since spurs might take Dylan Harper too. Seen a lot of people said, you know, say it could be a fire scenario if he turned it to Tyrese Maxey. And I was like, that's damn near a fire ass player coming out a little bit different in size. But what if that would be his trajectory? That would be fire for the Spurs.
He had never played like Tyrese Maxey.
You don't think Tyrese Maxey score like that.
He's a bullet, bro. He's so fast. His thing is speed. Like Tyrese Maxey is a speed player. He get where he want on the court, he drive by you, do those quick lays and he shoot threes. But you gotta respect his speed so much that you bag the fuck up. Dylan Harper is like, he's not fast. He's like a Cade Cunningham type of player.
I was about to say that.
More methodical.
Yeah, methodical. Big body. Jalen Brunson, Cade Cunningham, they use their body well big. You know what I mean? Got good size for his position. So pause. But like that's what he is going to be. He's not going to be Tyrese Maxey. Nah.
Yeah, I don't. I don't see that at all. Yeah. Damn, that is tough. Tyrese, they two totally different players.
I just don't like that fit with the Spurs. Like with Castle being able to play both guard positions well, one through three, really. And then de' Aaron Fox being the franchise point guard, I feel like, yeah, I mean he's a. All NBA caliber. Point guard. I don't see the run for Dylan Harper. Even though it's a small ball, you know, universe now, NBA or whatever you want to call it, I just still don't like it.
Yeah, because what people fail to realize, Wemby's going to have the ball in his hands too.
Yeah, he's going to play.
I mean, but if Dylan Harper is there, take him.
Shit, I mean, you take the best player available.
Most definitely figured out.
But for me, I'm going with something like I don't got on my team, that I know what my team is. I know Wemby's my guy.
Yep.
I know de' Aaron Fox is there. I'mma go with. I know Castle is there. I'mma go with something we don't got. If it's like Derrick Quinn, somebody that I don't got. You know what I'm saying?
Derrick Quinn for sure.
A complimentary player to them.
Possibly trading down from 2. May even.
Yeah, like if I'm not. If I'm not gonna trade this 2 and 14 to get a dynamic piece, if I ain't about to get some Giannis or KD or whatever it is, I'm a trade back.
Derrick Quinn could come in and play right away.
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Or, you know, or even like vj Vijay Edgecombe.
Yeah, Athlete.
He needs some development. But you can teach. Like, hey, you gonna be a good defender. You athletic, you can get out and run. We need somebody that can run with De' Aaron Fox. You know, I mean, Castle, you 6, 7, 6, 5, 6, 6. Castle, 6, 7. Y' all both can play wing positions.
Spurs a playoff team regardless of the draft pick next year.
Yeah, most definitely. You about to have. Victoriano is about to destroy the league next year. And you got a supporting cast that's capable to win games. A little bit more experience. I don't know what they're going to do with that pick. I mean, you know, maybe it's not enough balls to share pause. But I'd like to see like even a Trey Johnson with him. A solidified two guard. Maybe too high a two for them.
Somebody.
Yeah, but.
But if you trade back solid twos.
You got going forward. Like you said, you need another comp. We don't need another combo guardian Fox. You need somebody who put the ball in the hole next to him. So ain't a bad look.
But the one thing that Dylan Harper could be good at. Cause de' Aaron Fox is a scoring guard. Fox be getting 25, 28.
Oh, yeah. He's a bucket.
Dylan Harper is a scoring guard, but he can facilitate. So if they look at him as like a guy that can be a. He gonna be our point. Point. We gonna let de' Aaron Fox run around and do his shit. Then it's different.
Nah, I actually like. You brought up Derrick Quinn. I actually like him better than everybody that's available.
Damn.
Yep.
For the Spurs.
I like him. I like the big from. I like the big from Duke. I wouldn't take him at 2, but just to give the African. Yeah. To give Wemby that ability to play the four. Right. Cause Wemby's skilled as hell. Obviously, we know he can play the five, but like when he play these teams with some bigger. Like even though he guard Jokic pretty well. Whatever. But just have a chance to like stretch the floor. Still have a big that can bang. And athletic.
Yeah.
He ain't a bad pick too.
Most definitely. I want to ask how y' all felt about this? Some of the kids going back to school a lot of the nil has to play in it. You know what I'm saying?
Shout out to Carter, man. Good choice.
My boy going back. T. Pettifer going back to Auburn, something.
I wish he would have stayed.
He was going to be a late first round pick.
Yeah, go kill. Go kill this year. Be a top 10.
He came off the bench. You ain't even start. So coming off the bench.
He had a good combine workout, though.
That's good. You impressed the scouts. Now they going to come back, they going to have you ranked as a high draft pick next year. Oh, he gonna be a top 10 pick.
Yeah.
Whatever it is. Now you go, you're gonna have a chance to have a ball in your hand and play. Came off the bench as a small guard. Coming off the bench. That's rare. You gotta be so dynamic. You gotta be Rob Billingham.
Yeah, but I thought he. I thought, you know, that was his reason for going to the draft combine. To show his shit. And he went and killed all them niggas. So I thought that's why he was gonna. But I ain't. I mean, y' all say go back to school. I fuck with it.
You gotta be Rod Dillingham. It gotta be so convincing that when you came off the bench, that it looked crazy. Like, why is he coming off the bench? Yeah, we didn't really say that about him. We'd be like petty fur, you know, Like I said, every time I watched him, I'd be like, he ain't do shit. Yeah. Every time you turn your head. He played good.
Yeah, but he really did.
That's crazy.
I know, but I'm just saying, he legit did, though.
And I ain't trying to hate on the kid. Cause I think he can be really talented. I think he really. I mean, he is talented. I think he'd be a really good player. But it's like, it gotta be so convincing. Like, man, it ain't no way this dude is coming off the bench.
And it don't hurt to go back to a good team. Where you that dude now. So you really get out there and.
Get to go kill and you going back to 2, 3 million dollars. True. You probably gonna get way more money than you. He gonna get way more money than he was gonna get being the 30th pick.
And that's what I was talking about. The nil stuff. You got a lot of kids who were drawn for the draft. This is like the lowest they've had as far as declaring. Because why would I go to the NBA? And I'm possibly A second round pick. This nil. I'm getting a meal plus I'm gonna stay where I'm at.
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Yeah, I'm stay here and hoop out.
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You got kids getting 2.5 on the low end. You the 19th pick. You taking home 1.6. And after taxes, you 100,000 there.
Yeah, that's true.
But I'm about to get 3 million from Auburn. After taxes, I'm still a millionaire and.
I get to go shoot whatever the fuck I want to.
And I'm about to enjoy it.
He gonna go rock out for sure.
Oh, yeah, Go kill.
Then he's gonna average 20.
They're gonna have fun this year.
He's just so smart. I didn't know he was that athletic.
He's super athletic. Yeah, he got. He got a lot of bounce. I said, damn, he's more athletic than I was. God damn, bruh.
Even like, Carter knocks. I mean, we know that he's a health athlete, but there's some he was doing in that workout.
I'm like, damn, I've been.
He needs to come back to school, though.
Yeah, he definitely did.
He got an old man game.
He needed to come back to school. That was a good decision for sure.
Boogie Flynn going to Florida, since he on that, that's fire for him because he about to get to go hoop on a Polish team.
Yeah, I hate it, though.
You hate it?
Me too, bro.
I fuck with him as a player, but I hate. I hate he went to Florida.
He not no Florida name. To me, he's more of a UConn player than me, but that's just my take.
Not this UConn. Not this UConn you talking about UConn with.
Yeah, but I'm saying, though, a team like that, like, he needs to. I don't know. I don't think he gonna be able to get his shit off. He gonna have to play team basketball with Florida.
But what they did with old boy last year, you know what I'm saying, he got to get his shit off all year and had the bigs. Maybe he's seeing that mode. I'm like, all right, shit. Yeah, but he wants to do.
He got other people coming, though. Like the kid from Princeton or wherever he went. He going there too.
And scoring guard, he averaged number 20.
Yeah, and I ain't mad at him going to Florida. It's just like, I never been a team to go with the wave. Like, Florida just won a national championship. They lose, dude, I'm about to come fill in his spot. And if you don't perform like dude, it's gonna look crazy.
Yeah.
You know what I mean?
Like, dude, especially if you that type of player, like boogie. You straight, bro. You can go anywhere. You don't have to pull up like that. Start pulling up like kd, you gonna have to fulfill them shoes, bro.
You know they had that bread ready for him too. So they like, hey, you got faith in your boy.
You better hoop because Clayton just took us to the whatever his name is.
Walter Clayton.
Yeah, he just took us to the chip.
Walter Clayton was a senior.
Yeah, I guess them niggas be old, bro.
I don't be doing no Rick Patino. I own the bro.
Yeah.
Damn.
He just took him to the chip. Yeah. And he killed some tough shoes to fill, bro.
Next year fresh off, man. And we a school that's repeated before, so we got expectations of doing that again. Possibly.
I ain't mad at him. He might have got a bag from.
Him, I guess, but they probably threw that duffel at him. I can't be mad at him.
That ain't a bad school to go to. You gotta pick where it'll fit you though.
You gotta think. Also Arkansas brung in two guards.
Yeah. He couldn't go back home.
Yeah, they took what's his boy, Acuff, he from Michigan, Detroit thing. And then they had Brun the kid, Malcolm Thomas, I think.
Yeah, but you don't think they had no loyalty to.
Nah, he said they. They coming. Yeah, they coming in here. Malik Thomas.
Malik Thomas? Yeah, he's.
He's special. You talking about the point guard?
Yeah, yeah.
Malik Thomas, my favorite favorite player and the Eyl session last year and he.
Played like a player that you would with.
That's what.
And ote Malik Thomas, you get all the love on this show from me, brother. He is dynamic. Dynamic.
That roster spot was filled like obviously Carter, you see he could come back home. But it was the guards.
The guards filled and then he still got my boy that's been there. His nephew damn near Dewan Wagner.
Yeah, he's not going to be there.
D.J. wagner's still there. So.
Damn. He's still in school.
It was crazy. He's only a junior.
Yeah, he only be a junior.
I mean, I know. I just thought he'd have been gone though.
Got different man. The last year. Kentucky got weird for him for sure. But it's just crazy. Like the nil money, like you gotta damage get that bread. I ain't mad at people for it. But like you said, the downplay, if you go to an Organization or another school and they get wicked, boy, now.
You ain't got that.
You it's cool to go get the money. I with that for sure. Go get that paper. But you just don't want to get cold, bro. Just don't want to get cold, man. I don't know, I feel like people got a game plan for you now. Like, oh boy, Thad, whatever his name is.
Yeah, that's when you know if you like that or not. Everybody got a game plan. Like if you one of them, you show you notice a game plan. Everybody coming back to guard me, you know that every time I come in here, they gonna double team me. Like Walter Clayton. Everybody know he can shoot game plans, take him out the game. But if you really like that, you beat that. It's like the NBA. We all know Shay Gillard Alexander is about to get the ball and he about to go into this move. He about to do this and he still kill. The game plan is a game plan, but you gotta beat the game plan. If you like that. Now the ones that ain't like that, the game plan will take you out. Nah, for sure if you got boxed in one. I remember when Steph Curry people used to box and won. Steph Curry when he was at Davidson did not matter. And he was playing with nobody on his team went to the NBA. Not a soul.
They got real bad.
That was wicked.
And he still was cooking. He was like that.
That shit look like a cheat code for sure.
Yeah, you got boxed in one. It was like that.
Yeah.
Damn.
I don't know.
You get boxing one is still killing you. Really like that? Yeah.
Getting boxed in one in college, you good as fuck. I got boxed in one. I ain't even saying it like that, but I was just thinking about it like. Cause you playing with all people who at some point in their life was the guy.
But damn, I'm like, how the fuck was they boxed one and you. And you had a whip?
Yeah, North Carolina State did it.
Damn.
Yeah, Maryland did it.
Cause Todd, I mean Todd, I don't know if he really got. You had a whip, bro. You had James Faroul. He played with some shit.
Yeah, we struggled shooting though. We struggled shooting.
Ah, okay.
You know what I mean? Like we had athletes. James was a good athlete. Farouk athlete. Ish athlete. At that time, they, you know, we didn't shoot the ball well. I was really the only one that shot threes like that. And I didn't shoot like a crazy amount of threes, but I was like the only one that really shot three was you.
40%.
Come on, man. I live my right.
You 50?
40, 90. I don't know if I was 50, but I'm sure 190 from the free throw line. I was probably like 75, 80 in college, but I for sure was 40 from the three.
I fuck with that.
But we ain't shoot three. We wasn't a high three point shooting team like that.
I'mma ask you this question. What should the average NBA player be able to shoot from their free throw line? Like, percentage wise?
80, bro.
At least 80% use 81, huh? 81% from the free throw line.
The 80% is fair.
Yeah, okay, but you gotta understand, this is. I'm showing love and this is. This gonna sound crazy. It's a pause, though. But I'm trying to give y' all real basketball people hands. In the NBA, they be like three times our size.
Oh, yeah, bro.
So when they get that basketball in their hand, that shit be looking like a tennis ball in their hand, you know what I mean? Like, and they be trying to shoot a tennis ball. Like, imagine trying to shoot a tennis ball a bunch of times from the free throw line. Like, that shit look crazy, bro. Shaq look like he's shooting skittles, man. You know what I mean? It's like shout out to lethal shooter. He be shooting like that is crazy for them to try to make. I understood it like when I used to see some of the players on it, why you can't shoot free throw. They'd be like, man, this little ass ball to be.
That's why I come in, bro. Kawhi Leonard. I don't know how he do that, bro.
That pause. That bros are. Are retarded, bro.
I would smack the out somebody, bro.
Nah, facts. But I'm saying for him to shoot a basketball so efficiently like he does is insane.
To have an elite midi with oven mitts like that, bro. It's crazy.
Like, Dr. J hands for us, bro. It's like two of mine, bro.
Bro, I shook his hand when he's in Vegas, scraped my wrist.
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Oh, no wonder he was up and under doing that.
Like, they grabbing the ball. Like, when you can grab the ball out the air with one hand like that, that's. Yeah, that's what they doing, bro.
That's. That's crazy.
This is literally how they look at the basketball, bro.
The fact that you said Dr. Dre that might decide to compare himself off camera is really out of pocket.
I don't. I don't want that big bro.
You know who else hands was like that? Ray John Rondo.
Oh, yeah, yeah. Oh yeah, for sure.
That's why they used to say he couldn't shoot. No, that like his hands too.
Ray John's supposed to be six, eight, bro. Swear to God, his arms we at, we at his house. I said, bro, your hands are passing.
And that we like a 4, 15, 14, 15 foot. Look, I'm like, man, you supposed to be six seven.
N facts, bro. Torso little as shout out to my Ray, man.
That's crazy, man. It really do, man. Really different like it is, bro. At the game yesterday, somebody was looking down and some one of the old players came up. It's like, damn, Rick Smith was that tall. Like damn, Dale Davis. That's how I'm like, yeah, bro, these are abnormal human beings.
You're playing basketball, bro. Crazy, bro.
Are you average at LA Fitness? Y' all be going too far.
I don't understand. That's why when I be seeing people like a Nate Robinson or Isaiah Thomas or special bro, like even Spud Web, Mugsy Bugs, bro, y' all understand how talented and gifted them dudes are to be going against them big ass giants.
Who else was smart in the league when you was there that you can remember?
You ain't got Earl Boykin.
Earl Boykins was like 53175 a bucket you played. Yeah, probably like 160.
He used to get buckets though. Earl Boykins was five three, bro.
He's little as.
I've never seen him.
If he was anything, he was 5, 5, 5' 6 at most.
Yeah, short as 175 and 55 is crazy too. Yeah, strong ass.
I ain't gonna say he was 175. He might have been like 155, 160, but he was strongest. He bench press 300 pounds. He the second smallest player ever. How tall was he? Five five? Yeah, I would say he was little as hell. Who was I posting him up?
Damn.
Hold on. What?
I posted him up one game. Like I went to the block like, oh my God, nigga, he five five.
He stood up on you though.
Oh, I didn't score, but I went to the block like I drove, you know, I drove trying to go buying.
Yeah.
And he stayed in front. I just turned like. And he was just right there. He was like. But he was so little I could shoot over him. Yeah, but it wasn't like I was moving him. He was strong as shit. He was just like.
I mean, yeah, N5 5. I'm guarding. You definitely go to the block.
Yeah, but he was so you ain't moving him.
Like, the reason I could guard Earl. Cause he was fast. He was quick, but I was just as fast and quick. But I was 6 1. So he would try to go by me and I'd be there. And I remember one game, he just kind of was like. His voice was little as hell. He had like a little voice. Like, his voice fit him. He was like, oh, okay, okay, I see what you're doing.
Oh, shit.
You should play a little bit. And then the next game, he middied me to death. He was hitting all midis off pick and roll.
Bing, bing. I was like, damn, Earl Boykins bust your ass.
He did not bust my ass at that time. I was only playing like 10 minutes a game. He probably had like six points in my 10 minutes, so I guess that's busting my ass. But he had six points.
And I remember seeing him for 20, 30, 18, 15.
Yeah, he was in Milwaukee. I threw his shit one time, though. Cause, I mean, you know, y' all know Josh Smith, he gonna gas you like that. Little nigga gonna bust your ass. All right, you keep with Earl, man. That nice.
Cause Earl and goddamn Denver fire.
Look how little he is.
Like, he might little as he was.
Hooping low top once. Was he?
What is that? Nah, that's probably Steve Nash.
Joints come by, say he go if he hooping in the woods. Low tie.
Yeah, he was a.
He was a wizard.
Yeah, he played the Wizards. Played even French hockey.
I just remember his golden years with Denver, though.
Yeah, he was killing in Denver, baby.
Blue jersey, bro. They had all the extraordinary backup point guards.
Him, Andre Miller.
And I was just thinking about if you played against any small guy.
Andre Miller, bro, go. He was so good at basketball.
YMCA legend.
Oh, my God. He used to pick you apart, Pick everybody apart. Andre Miller, one of the best point guards to ever play basketball, bro. You gotta ask real basketball people. You can't just. The fans can be like, andre Miller was ass.
Nah, I remember Andre Miller. He's definitely nice. He had a great run in Denver, too.
We used to have a back and forth.
One of my old group chats. Who was better between him and Sean Livingston, because my homeboy from Pure, so he loves Sean Livingston. He's like, bro, two of the best backup point guards ever.
I said, bro, they both cold for sure. Yeah, Andre Miller was no backup until he was like, years.
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Until later in his career.
14. Who you taking, though? Dre or Chauncey?
Chauncey.
I gotta take Chauncey.
I'm gonna take Chauncey. I take Chauncey. But it ain't, it ain't that.
It's there.
Andre Miller was.
It used to be me and my niggas debate. Used to be Andre Miller and Chauncey like shout out to Sean. Sean was a killer, but that was hard.
I'm gonna take Chauncey cause he shot the three better. But Andre Miller, bro, that post up his pass on the Billy and the nigga was slow as fuck, bro. Like you wouldn't even think he could play, bro. He like looked like, yo, yo, wow. Cousin like, give me the ball, give me that.
He the only got the ymca, bro, to always get picked up, bro. Because he got G, bro. Come in looking like he just came off the bottom, dog.
He bigger than you.
Yeah, yeah, he probably like 6 4. Yeah, but he was like, his ankles was hurt, knees hurt, he ain't brush his hair when he about to play. And all of a sudden he just be hooping.
Nah, for sure.
That's funny, man. We bringing up all the old that everybody with. Because I remember we brought up John Salmons the other day and I ran across the highlight tape. I was like, John, he was like that, bro.
He's a random ass NBA.
I swear. He was nice. He was nice. Nah, but that's what happens though.
We we talking about all the old players we grew up on. That's to the young. They like, they old. The KD's, LeBron, they don't care about them no more, bro. They care about the new wave, bro. Basketball perpetuates.
So who, who really the new wave though? That's the real question.
The new wave is sga. The wave gotta be. Gotta be, bro.
He saved basketball for me, but gotta be the mvp.
Young mvp.
I love sga. I just think it's. I think it's still Jai Lamelo A. I think they are the wave.
I think they the way, but I.
Don'T think they how to play basketball, sga. But how many people are showing kids how to play basketball? The railway. I don't know. Everybody a trainer these days, bro.
Yeah, trainer. If you work out with a trainer every day, you probably ain't gonna be that good.
I don't know why kids don't go play 5 on 5 basketball outside, bro.
After I heard KD say something really cool. A meme clip or something like that. Yeah. When he was talking about how he got better when he was in the NBA.
First four years in the NBA.
By playing five on five, better with.
Everybody two, three times a day. Like that's unheard of, bro.
Because that's how you learn how to pass, learn how to get open, how to create space. But when you play one on one with a trainer all day and then you go out and try to play five on five, there's nothing wrong with doing skill work. But you do that, it's all you ever do. When you get out there, you're gonna try to do your one on one moves and you ain't gonna realize, oh, it's another nigga standing right here. Yeah, it actually moves. Like, you know that cone don't move. He actually like reaches at the ball and shit. And then they wonder why they can't get their shit off. And it's like, well, well, tell them to move out my way. Well, they not gonna move out your way. They play basketball too.
Scotty was like, I played against all shapes and sizes. Cause you gotta get a real feel for the game. So even the sad niggas that foul all day. I need that.
Yeah. Facts.
Yeah.
So I can learn how to counter at least.
Yeah, you got counters now where kids is coming in doing five dribble combos. That is never going to happen in a real game unless you are a star player.
Yeah, I wonder if there's any kid in the world though that like host an open run, you know what I'm saying? Like, I feel like we used to all just even going to your friend backyard like, hey, y' all, we hooping today at 7. Pull up.
Kids don't play basketball like that no more.
That is really a lost art. And that's why I think basketball is watered down, bro.
Yeah, kids don't play basketball. Everybody plays basketball because of what it can get you.
They don't play for fun no more.
Nah, it's what it can bring you. Yeah, like, oh, I'm about to play on an EYBL circuit. Cause I'm about to get all the gear. People gonna be there, people gonna know me, I'm gonna be lit the clout, all that. They don't play basketball just cause they like playing basketball.
Damn.
You know what I mean? Like, you know, I work with kids, so you never gonna hear a kid, hey, coach, can you just open the gym so we can hoop today? I mean, coaching every. I've never had somebody say, you think.
They look at it like work.
Yeah, it's like damn near. Oh my God, we gotta go to practice today. Oh my God. Like when we used to go to Practice. I used to be hyped. Like, I used to hate doing the drills. But, like, when we about to play five on five, I'm turned like some kids now when it's time to play five on five, it's like, they too cool. I heard this is for. I heard some kids, I'm just out and about. I heard some kids say, hey, I'm not hooping today. Cause I had two games. I played three games this week. So I'm gonna take a day off.
Damn.
And I was like, damn, man, I would've never took. I didn't take a day off till I was like 30, 28. You know what I mean?
Yeah.
Damn. And when I was in the teens, what y' all hooping tomorrow?
I'm there no matter where it was, though. Y' all come fresh off a AAU tournament. Out of town niggas pulling up to Butler North.
It didn't matter. Y' all hooping. It's gonna be some people that are hooping. Let's hoop.
Target and park is dry. Every time I take my babies to my mama house, it's little bro, it's nobody at the park no more.
Yeah, we definitely. The old nigga saying this, but outdoor basketball is completely dead. Oh, never.
They would never. But that's where you find. That's how you learn how to play. That's why kids can't pass. Now, facts. They ain't playing with no old heads. It's like, give me the ball.
Yeah, bro, if you don't, that's a fact. And if you don't, I'mma beat your ass or you're not gonna play under score.
Yeah, we ain't picking you up no more. Yeah. See, now, all the kids, when they do play with old heads, they come out there and shoot. And they be doing all trying to get their shit off. And n be like, man, he not playing no more. We not picking them up. And then they dads or they homeboys or parents be in the stands, like, man, we done drove while you ain't let him get a chance. Like, nah, when you a youngin, you gotta play defense and pass that motherfucker to the older dudes. And then they might give you a shot. Like, shoot that young fellow. That's the one for you.
On my mama. It's a pending order, no matter how good you are.
And I wish you would call a foul. These kids be wanting all these. I wish you would call foul.
Foul. You call a foul, bro, they cuss you out.
And I. I mean, I know we didn't have trainers like back in the day. I just want to give a shout out to my though on the pod, like my James Phillips. That's how he learned how to hoop, bro. When we was kids, bro, he was literally 8 years old playing in a grown man dust bowl, bro. Killing nigga. So by the time he got to high school, he was shit, he was flying. I mean, the streets grabbed him, but that's how niggas really learn how to hoop, nigga. Growing up in our era, I played.
With my dad every Tuesday, Thursday, and on Sundays, he would pick us up, like on his team, like, come on. And he would cuss you the fuck out. Like, I didn't understand, like, that was my dad NBA at that time. Them Tuesdays, that Thursday, that Sunday, that was everything to him. So when I came out there not playing defense or not, you know, trying to do my shit, he would be like, I'm not bringing you no more. Cause I'm tired of watching this shit, like. And they had to lose and get off the court because of me. Oh, you going crazy.
Nah, for sure. Like, Boog said the same thing. He used to take him to play with Orbit and Neil. So that's different kids. I don't see that no more, bro.
It ain't really. No, it ain't.
I get that Pro Am shit going back in there.
I don't want to sound like an old head. Cause I'm not an old head. But the love is like. It's just a different love. It's like you care and you wanted to be good just cause you wanted to be better than a. From your corner. Like, you grew like, man, James Phillips is nice. I'm like, let me. I'm gonna be better than that. He. I swear to God, when we run into them, I'm killing that.
Yeah.
It wasn't like, I want to be good so I can post it on Instagram or I want a scholarship or whatever. I just want to be better than the dude from my neighborhood.
Yeah, bro. And you know what I'm saying, it's like, nigga, I'm holding. Hold my neighborhood down. Want to hear one threes, bro, we about to dust these niggas. They about to come to my neighborhood and get us out of town court, bro. It's crazy.
I wasn't even thinking about like, the people in a nation. I'm just like, man, I gotta be the best player in Indianapolis.
We ain't had no Internet or nothing.
Yeah.
I'm like, damn, my we. I said, bro, we hoop every day bro. You 11 bro his 25 year old they cannot with you bro. These who played in college cuz the dust bowl all the old that used to hoop used to come to targeting park and run bro. He'd be dogging man. So I don't know.
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And then I also, like, it's weird. Cause now, you know, being a coach and being around kids, I would have never in my life posted, like, Eric Gordon. You know how they, like, posted another dude highlight tape. Like, I see you, boy.
Yeah.
I would have never.
That dude be shouting that gang out for sure.
Yeah. They shout out everybody. Like, dude from anywhere, Michigan. Anyway, I see you, twin fire. I'd have been like, hell, no.
They do show hella look.
Yeah. I've been like, no, he got a highlight tape. That's how he was. He got a highlight tape. How? Like, why? Why I don't got one? Like, I'm hating.
Like, niggas is trying to work on their own.
And that's why I didn't have friends. I'm being for real. Like, all them dudes, like, now that I'm older and I see them, you know, you try to say, what's up? But it was never, like, love. Like James Phillips. Like, we grew up playing against him. Them niggas didn't talk to me.
Yeah.
Dre Sherman, all them. They didn't talk to me. I used to be like, man, fuck them niggas. Like, I killed him. And you know what I mean? I'm about to kill y' all niggas. And then they.
That's what they was on, too.
They would never be like, well, so we be at Nationals. We the only team from Indiana. And it's still like, nah, nah. Like, you be like, who y' all play, nigga? Mean Streets, nigga.
They keep walking.
Like, I'm like, if Sterling David was on their team, I was the only one he was cool with. Cause we went to school together. Like, shout out to Sterling, man, what up? Like, man, what time y' all play strolling?
Don't do too much.
Yeah, that's how they was.
Stay over there.
Yeah, I swear. But that's just how it was. Like, I would have never, ever in my life posted any of them give a. They could have had 25 offers from the best schools in the country. I'd have been like, yeah, they knew.
It was offers, but, oh, good boy.
I'm like, man, that nigga sad.
Well, and I. I feel you, bro. But the only reason why I kind of fuck with it is. Cause you. You just. All the kids are just crash house these days. So when they showing love to each other.
Nah, that's a fact.
It's productive as fuck.
But I'm saying, from, like, a competitive nature, though. Like, I'm like, man, he number one. That, like, I'm I'm bet I bust his ass. I ain't gonna be like, oh, you got ranked number one. That's hard, bro. Keep killing. No, fuck him.
Yeah, like, but that's why I like Aunt and Ja and Dame Lillard and CJ McCallum. Because they got that in them, though. It's always competitive. It's love, bro. But you in between these lines, bro. I want your spot.
But for me, that's why I have friends. It was you all the way. Like, yeah, it was everything I could have. I didn't have friends because of that.
You didn't have a switch.
I did. I didn't. I didn't have friends like Philip used to be. Like, why you do that? You know Phil. Everybody like Phil. They like everybody, it feels like. See, you make people not like me. Cause I hang with you. Like, we hang out every day and people think you a asshole. I'd be like, man, I don't.
The fella was another killer.
Yeah, like J Mix. That's why. Mix, my nigga. Cause mix will ride like, I don't give a fuck. You know, he fuck over, like. Cause like, we be at a little game, like, yeah, bitch ass nigga. And you know that shit hit different.
You know what I mean?
But we famed that hit different. So at the game, they like, was that shit you was talking, nigga Mix. Like, fuck, we go ride like every time. And I was gonna ride with mix.
Niggas in Club K was like, yes, I was a bitch during.
Right?
Yeah, yeah. Like, you know, you got to keep it basketball. Like, man, get out my face. Nah, nah.
Well, I. I can't say the little dude, Tyran Stokes is definitely you. Oh, well, he crashes the out.
He cold.
He's cold. But I hope that don't catch up to it because he talks dusties. But I love that competitive nature, though.
N. Facts, facts.
That's a separating fight nowadays, man. Like you said, in a non competitive world, the ones that send out this little od, they. They look different for a reason, bro.
Yeah.
Do y' all think the NBA is competitive?
Hell yeah.
Yeah, it's super. One thing about it, niggas in the NBA, you competing. Cause you competing for something different, though. You competing for a check like everybody. So you want to live. You like, shit, I'm about to feed my family. So that competitive nature is something different in the league. Cause you trying to feed your family.
Cause, oh, I just asked y' all. Cause the old heads was talking about how it's too buddy, buddy.
I mean now.
Cause Too much love.
Like, you know, every generation before, they feel like the generation after them is too nice. It's just a real sequence.
When you get to the league, I don't. You don't gotta be like that no more. Cause you gonna naturally like, nigga, I'm playing. Cause I gotta feed my family. So when I get in between these lines, nigga, yeah, it ain't you. I'mma play competitive. Cause you might be on my team next year. Yeah, Literally, like, you know what I mean?
Like, so it ain't you.
I'm just gonna be super competitive. Cause I'm gonna do my job. Cause I gotta get paid. Like, when I was growing up, I didn't think about getting paid. It was, fuck you. Cause you said you was better than me, blah, blah, blah. Now somebody be like, yeah, you fouling ass. Quit fouling. Blah, blah, blah. It's like, you ho ass. And you just keep playing. And then after the game, good, like, hey, watch.
Hey, watch that ass though.
That. You're chill with that, but you don't give a fuck. But that's how me and Paul George was. He'd be guarding me. I'm like, he's sad as fuck. You soft nigga. Blah, blah, blah. He go back and forth with me. But I told you I couldn't cut it off. So when we got to his team, when I came to his team, I'm still bitch ass nigga. Like, you know what I mean? I remember what you said.
Lord Jesus.
That's what it was. Because we was competitive against that. Like. But I couldn't turn it off. But then when it was time to turn it off, I couldn't turn it on. It'd be nice and shit. I fucked it up. All right, so that was. We hear it now. I'm gonna tell y' all with my real grief with the Pacers. Cause everybody was like, why he don't root for the home team?
Here it is, guys.
This is why I don't root for the home team. And it's not that I told you, I'm not a fan of nobody. I don't have a fan of the team. But when I was with the Pacers, that was my favorite year of playing basketball. I always tell y' all that.
This is true.
On the court.
Yeah, on the court. Paul George wanted to be traded. Well, he didn't want to be traded. He did the baseball game.
Yeah.
Said he was going to be a Pacer for life.
It came out report.
Yeah. So I had talks with Kevin Pritchard and Them, they like, okay, you're like, you know, we're gonna bring you back. Not that we agreed on a deal or nothing, but you know how you just talk like. They like, yeah, okay, yeah. Like, at that time, they couldn't pay nobody. Like, I was the only player they could pay. Cause of the rules how it was. They had my rights. I was the only player they could play. And at that time, Jrue Holiday was the only player that, like, New Orleans can play. So I was in a competitive. Like, whatever Drew Holiday get, I'm gonna get. You know what I mean? I'm like, damn, I'm gonna stay with the Pacers. They ain't got no point guard. This is like the perfect thing. So I'm like, I'm gonna take less just to stay at home. I don't even gotta get with Jrue Holiday get. And we had the same exact stats down there. And when PG said he didn't want to be here no more, he said, we gonna be. We tanking. We about to be ass. We ain't gonna get nobody. We gonna trade pg. We love you, Jeff. It was fun. Like, I'm sorry. We gonna go in a different direction, nigga. They trade Paul George for Oladipo. It's a bonus. And, nigga, they are damn near the.
Top five team in the east to rebuild. Shout out to kp.
I'm in Minnesota sick. Like, nigga, I could have been at the crib with them niggas. And they play how I want to play.
They play it fast.
It look fun.
Teague is the bonus pick role with a fed generations, bro.
I was hurt. I was genuinely hurt.
Like KP and durable.
Ever since then. Ever since then. I've been mad at KP ever since then. And you know what? He gonna tell me, we played in Minnesota. He was like, I didn't know it was gonna play like this. You would have been perfect for this team. I look at the nigga like, I ain't got over. But honestly, bro, I forgive you.
Now you my guy. You know what I mean? I'm a ride for show, but I genuinely think KP said that from a genuine place, bro.
No, I'm not. KP did.
I know you're not mad at. I'm just saying, really? When he thought about it, we did.
Not know that Victor Odifa was about to be an all Star Year one knew Vic.
Nobody knew Vic. And Sabon's about to come here and.
Be that hey, clown, bro.
And he. He didn't even expect that. If I'm Being honest.
And then we stole bogey for a crazy pick. We got teed up real quick.
Yeah, he didn't even expect that.
It's just funny. You was a part of that.
Yeah, but, like, when he did that, it was just like, get better. They, like, let me walk. And, like, he just told me, like, bro, we. We not even try. We. We can't. He literally said, we can't pay you. 20 something million dollars.
Get a bag.
I was.
He was like, we can't pay you.
You can't be. He be the highest player on the team.
I was. I really suck. I said, oh, that did the clown.
I told you. I told you. I was like, guess what I'm about to get, guys. He finna clear 100.
My nigga was fin declare 100 smooth.
I remember that.
He was like, you cannot be the highest paid player.
Jeff Teague
I'm thinking back to the roster, too.
Unknown
We had.
Jeff Teague
If I was gonna trade pg, you.
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Would definitely been the highest paid player.
That's a true story, y' all. There's no cap.
I would have been, like, by far the highest paid player on the team, averaging only 17 and 7.
Then you know what's so funny about this nigga? He telling pg, come on, man, you gotta kill him. Come on, kill.
We gotta get on the same page. When I say, I text that nigga, like, make sure you gonna be damn near mvp.
Can't nobody fuck with you.
Oh, God. I'm at the baseball game. Y' all know I ain't even with Buddy like that. I'm at the baseball game, hitting like, yeah, that's some real shit. We gonna be all right next year, my boy.
I never forget him doing that interview at the softball game. Yeah, I want to be an IDD for life. Report coming out. Paul George will crush the trade.
Jeff Teague
I said, God damn.
Unknown
Literally.
Cause I don't care. Nobody pockets. I said, damn, clear a hundred, nigga.
I went to the baseball game. You know, we got like, quarter. We got kind of cool at the end, you know what I mean? Went to a couple parties together, and it was cool. So I went to the baseball game. But all intentions to be like, I need to know if you're going to stay here. So he told me. I'm like, man, you staying, right? You know, just. You stay in this motherfucker, right? I bet these motherfuckers love you out here.
Look at this shit.
He like, man, I can't leave this. I'm like, yeah, man, you gonna be mvp, man. I see that, bro. You. You really just now getting back, bro. We starting to find our chemistry, bro. You're gonna be that. You gonna be him, bro. He like, yeah, yeah. I'm like, I left that baseball game like, ching, ching. This about to be lit. I'm calling like, yeah. My age at the top was like, you talked to pg? I was like, yeah. He was like, okay, okay. I was like, yeah, I think I'm gonna buy a new house. He like, okay.
Niggas was pre planning.
I was like, no. Remember I started doing remodeling my house?
Yes, bro.
I was like, yeah, I'm gonna start the remodel on my crib.
There was another remodel on the way.
I started to remodel, you know, Jeff.
T signs with the Minnesota ticket war.
I was so confused. I didn't talk to him for, like, two weeks.
Weeks.
I forgot what I was doing. But I'm like, this thing is going to the terrible 57 million so bad. Like, I got all the money in the world, but I'm saying that's just the inside. I knew what he was, you know?
So that was about my.
That crazy, bro. That's a real. Y' all.
The funniest thing about this is you look at the finals. PG is the reason why both of these teams been the finals. That trade got us a bonus, and it's a bonus trade got us our franchise and SGAs and OKC because of PG.
That's a fact. Shout out to PG. You helped everybody but me.
This is the perfect time to insert better help. You need therapy.
I got therapy already.
Nah, all you do, you said, well, you should use that Boost mobile. Kp, what's up?
PG say he here. What's up, man? I wish he would have just waited till, like, July. If he could have just let me sign that shit, I would not give a fuck. I would be like, oh, damn, man. Y' all can trade me at the deadline, man.
I don't give a boost. Bo, put that Nationwide Org. It works in Indiana and Minnesota.
Yeah, like, y' all can trade me at the deadline, bro. I get it, bro. I can't be the highest paid player on the team, bruh.
I love that.
Go ahead, trade.
Those conversations would be so funny because people don't really, like, understand it's still, like, a workplace environment at the end of the day. Even though it's a lot of money involved. It's still a workplace environment.
Yeah. Shout out to kp, though. He was one thing. I'm joking. When I be, like, talking shit about the Pacers. I was Hurt because I wanted to stay at home. But he was always honest and real. When a nigga tell you you can't be the highest player player on the team, you can only respect it.
Nah.
Fact, he was like, yeah, I like you like, you can't be the highest paid player on the team.
No, that's a real shit.
I was just like, respect. I can't.
Yeah. They should have made a way, though, bro. I wish that was so funny, though. I was like, this thing going to Minnesota.
I just knew I was about to be a pacer for the next five, six years.
Cause I told him first sign here. I was like, bro, why do you want to come home?
Literally. Literally, I'm the only person that want that's from Indiana who likes to be in Indiana. That's a fact that played professional sports, cuz.
Everybody jump.
Yeah.
Shout out to the guys. I ain't gonna name y' all. Cause I ain't telling y' all whereabouts. But, yeah, I ain't here like that.
Oh, no, not here. Like, no, none of them live here. Oh, man, I live here. They don't. I gotta live here.
You don't. This set up shop. He got a family. This coach high school basketball. Where he went to high school. He stuck. Courtney Lee would never.
See. Lee said, yeah, I gotta go.
First time not coming back.
Shout out to Sea Lee.
It snows there. You're weird. That's what he telling me. He told me, like, why do you want to live here, bro? He's like, you're stationed. Like, this is where you stay. You don't just have a home here. I was like, nah, I live here, bro.
We gotta get that Sea Lee pod on the way.
Oh, we got to. You know what's so funny, man? I was at the game yesterday. People were just like, yeah, where do y' all live? I was like, bro, we record so much a week, bro, we have to live here.
Oh, y' all know people think we really from Atlanta.
Yeah, cuz of him shout out to the amen.
He talk about Atlanta so much. They. So when we be down there, bro, and I see people, bro, they really think, like, that's our home, bro.
That's where I grew up. Really, though, like, became a man. I shouldn't say grew up. I turned 21 in Atlanta.
Yeah.
Like, all I know was bank and I was.
No, I just commend you on some. On some real.
Like, I was in Bankhead with it.
For making it it through the NBA. Coming from where we from and you going to the NBA in Atlanta and starting your career and thriving like that, bro, that a lot of wouldn't have been able to.
Yeah, bro.
Bro, it's a blessing because we had some cool vets and then Atlanta was a city that kind of. It wasn't too much, like. Cause I ain't really. I wasn't a too much ever in my life, you know what I mean? We was here. I ain't do too much. But even when I got to Atlanta, I don't. I didn't know all the shit you could really do until I got like 27, 28. And you like, damn, you could spend that much money in a night, babe. I ain't never know that. Cause my vets did a good job. Like, I never paid for none of my first two years. But when I started realizing how much a table could be, it was a Hip Hop Awards. Never forget Hip Hop Awards. And the table was $10,000 that stuck in your head. And I said, somebody's paying $10,000 to sit in a section that I paid for yesterday for 1,500.
Yes.
Cause I called back, let me get that same section from last night. I had a tomboy. He said, yeah, it's gonna be 10 bands. Woo hoo. Said, huh? It was 1500. That's what he said. Ain't nobody in there. They in there tonight. I said, yeah, see how that works?
And that's back in the day, y' all. I told y' all, Atlanta is cheaper now out. Way cheaper than it was back then.
That's how that worked. I caught. I called four. Yeah, in the league.
That's nasty.
And they all was rolling those out to my dog. Everybody, man. They was like, they like. We split the table, man.
That's crazy.
Four way.
Shout out to Josh, man. I partied on your dog before too.
Me too. All the time. Shout out to Joe. Real one Joe. Joe made me look like a star on New Year's. Shout out to my Joe, man. I had all. I had everybody from. I grew up with Indianapolis at a New Year's party in Joe's section. Took that over. We were so many of us in that. Joe said, man, you got it. Dog left. We in that with all the bottles, chicken wings, everything. Swear to God. I said, damn, they broke the bill. I was like, oh, he did me like that. Like, dude was being funny. Like, man, here go your bill. I was like, oh, no, no, no, no.
This Joe.
He like, ninja already paid for it, man. I was still kind of. You was. I was like, yeah, he's like he already paid for you.
Good.
I'm being you won't find about to run out. Be fun to me.
In local news, point guard Jeff T runs out on Bill.
I don't know if you can run out in Atlanta.
Motherfucker might phone you up. Not with ag them get that tent back one way over car for the show.
I'mma run off on sea hover cash.
What we get though?
Just playing in my guys run off the plug.
You go see him at your next event. It's crazy. That's a fact.
Shout out to my what else happened.
In the world man.
That's a mean apple for sure. I see it's 26 coming back July 10th. Yeah.
Oh, they bringing a new another one out. It's going to keep going.
Yeah. Hopefully they will get to the basketball. That's the next plan.
What's that?
Bringing out NCAA football.
That was probably one of my favorite games last year. They brought it back. It's been gone a long time.
I was a Marsh Madness, bro.
They.
They.
That's what they're trying to do. You know they might get that in 27.
As long as I can make Alabama a Duke, I'm cool with that. Create me and all my. That's what I used to do, bro. You should build the school.
I didn't like.
Jeff Teague
I like.
Unknown
I like college football last year they gotta do something. I liked it. It was cool. It was cool. I ain't gonna hate it.
Nah. What's the. What's the.
The big adjustment between playing that and Madden?
Yeah, like Madden was so different than playing like the reason I like college football though. Cause it made you feel like a kid pause but like you know how we played the game. It was nigga. You could run the ball back and do crazy shit like Madden now. It's so damn realistic. You try to be. Yeah, you gotta damn near be really good. You could damn there be sad and NCAA and win because you could do some fluky fumbles all type of. But like it was like a video game.
See, I like it from the point because I was just building programs. I'm out here recruiting. I'm doing all that.
That's the fire part about it.
But I ain't doing that is tedious.
You were talking about turning your team to a powerhouse, bro. It takes mad.
I love that, bro. Doing that on March Madness. Building that school for four years, bro. Yes, bro.
Go ahead.
Your team and your players get better every year too.
The coldest player on Marsh Madness ever was Lamar Odom when he Was at Rhode Island.
No.
What?
No. What's my buddy from iu? Bracey Wright. Coldest ever on marshmallows.
It was Lamar Odom at road.
And the ugly African, number 33 from UConn.
What the hell is wrong?
Look at Bill.
Bill, he's a dick.
Hey, Bill. Bill talking about him love the Pacers. I don't know, Bill.
Him is crazy.
Oh, no, that's crazy. Pause.
I had a funny joke.
Why you laughing like that, Mike?
Mike ain't got a camera today.
That's crazy, man. He want some milk and cookies.
Him down.
Like that's crazy.
Crazy.
Call this him as well, man.
Shout out to the pronouns.
No, Santana, man. Shout out to my ca. To the whole CA family.
Shout out to the CA family.
For sure. What about the big three, man? What you talking about? Money.
But what's funny about the ECA is now, bro, when is mad. They hit the transfer portal.
Oh, yeah.
I hate that.
So if your tight didn't get enough catches, he was like, I'm in the portal.
Hard. That's hard, bro.
Jeff Teague
It's stressful, bro.
Unknown
When I'm trying to build a program.
And won't touch, bro. I'm only playing six minute quarters, bro. Everybody can't get touchdowns.
That's hard.
I only play when I play ncaa. I only play with Miami. That's the only time I ever played with, bro. No matter the year I play, it was always Miami.
No, not for sure.
So you would have been. You would have went to Miami if you played football?
For sure.
The U days only.
Only my. I don't give a if I play lacrosse, pickleball, basketball. People say to you, I am a hurricane, bro. I seen that Uncle Luke documentary, Super Coke, where I get in, bro?
Cokey coke.
Put me in the bounty.
Come on, man, the Rock, Warren Sapp, all these ghosts went there, bro. I'm tapping in.
Nah, come on, bro.
You see the mixtape, bro? They had the bars off.
Miami was fire, bro.
Yeah, because I only playing. I wanted to stop there. Like if I really wanted to play football. Rock out. I probably went to Florida State, Alabama. But I know what I'm there for.
What you there for?
For now. For real. Oh, me, bro? Ain't no way.
Yeah, my red shirt.
The first two years, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, first, last two, it's up.
You make it out of Miami, bro, and go to the NFL and be successful. You to go, bro. You to go.
They had a dynasty, bro. They was putting everybody NFL. And everybody was cold. Yeah, everybody was Cold. A lot of them players was hall of famers. If they're not borderline, bro.
What was the. I think he died, man. The safety. He did die.
John Taylor.
Yeah.
Sean Taylor. Oh, elite, bro.
Yeah, bro, he was.
He's the second best safety of all time.
Cold on the game, bro.
You know who the first one is? My favorite football player all the time. Don't play with him. Eric Reid, bro.
Not mad at that at all.
That nigga is one of the.
Eric Reid.
He's my favorite football player.
After I heard Peyton Manning talk about Ed Reed, the way that he played football. Yeah, I could never.
That's my favorite football player all the time. I remember I got a chance to meet him, talk to him on a zoom call. That was the first, like, my second time. I was, like, starstruck, and I was like, damn. And he ain't give a fuck. I'm like, man. I kept telling jlord N. He was on the zoom with us. And what's the linebacker to play for the. Luke play for the Panthers.
Luke Keakley.
Yeah. He was on there, too. And I'm kind of. I keep, like, texting Jay Lure, like, man, you think you get an Air Reid jersey for me? He like, ask the. I'm like, anything I get a jersey. He like, yeah, I could do that, man. Hell yeah, man. Let me know, man. I texted him.
I remember last. A couple years. I ain't trying to get to that school. And that's. He said, hey, I ain't gonna waste my time, man.
I ain't gonna lie. Cold. Another cold. Say, well, this high school, but that Jeremy Finch from our city, bro.
Shout out to Jeremy Finch.
I. I really thought he was gonna.
Be up there if, you know, you know, legend from the city, bro, man.
Bro would have made it to the NFL. I really think he would have been up there with some of the greats, for sure.
You talk about you going to that Miami team. I'm trying to go with that Florida team.
Nah.
Yeah, that's what I'm saying. But he was on that team with all the killers.
Tebow. Oh, thousand twins.
Yeah.
Hernandez.
I guess that's the wrong word. God love.
Well, they did it.
There's three documentaries.
N. Well, shout out to Jay Fish, though. He made that team. They had a whip. Though. They had a whip.
Urban Meyer, bro, had one of the wildest programs popping at the side. I would have definitely the Florida G.
That was my type of team. I was probably, like a LSU player. I would have went to lsu.
Which year, though?
No, no, no. Play football. Like, I was the top wideout. Like, I would have been. Like Jamar Chase Odell, Justin Jefferson. Like, I would have been one of them.
Couldn't be me. I honestly wonder what's my boy that went to Texas A and M. Johnny Manziel.
Yeah, that's who you would have been. Yep.
Go ahead. D and me.
Cocaine Music.
Where we at tonight, Johnny? Johnny Manzell had LeBron James coming to Texas.
You know what's crazy, bro? Beating Alabama changed his life so quick. I mean, he was always solid, but that win alone, bro, turned him the fuck up. He was going crazy.
Craziness.
This is the Lamar Otoma football, bro.
That's a wild comparison.
Lamar Otoma football now. Oh, Stefan Diggs.
Oh, no.
You see that? He.
The future.
That'S up. Let's see. Going live. And I'm. Damn. I tell y' all. Going live. And them phones and that party look real nice, everybody, but I think, bro probably just minding his business, bro.
Okay, but that's a Hell if that was far away, that's a hell of a zone, bro, because it looked like she. Whoever was recording was right there.
She was.
You know what I'm saying? I don't think he really cared, bro.
Just the vibes, bro.
Just survives, bro. She hit the b. Cardi on the cardi on the boat, too.
Yeah, bro. It's a party, bro.
Man, give him his crown, man. What we doing, man? We ain't in nobody way. He ain't bothering nobody.
That looks like an elite pregame to me.
He's just taking sh.
Was very respectable.
That. That was fire. But they trying to say the pink.
He had the pink candy.
They trying to put that diddy out there.
Yeah, they trying.
I thought that was bubblegum. I didn't know what was bubblegum, Steph.
That damn sure was bubblicious.
I thought it was like, her lip gloss or something.
Yeah, I didn't get.
Oh, it is all right.
What?
What?
It's like. Yeah. I'm like, who gives a. Why y' all looking at that bundles?
And he was giving it to her.
Like, this is your.
Take this away from me. Yeah, yeah.
Like a little Sarah Pastorals.
He's innocent to me.
Yeah, that could be an edible. It's hot outside.
And milk sativa.
I'm talking about they. Coach had to respond to it, though. Y' all seen that?
Yeah, that's crazy.
Yeah, he had to talk about that. I'm like, damn, man, them cameras, man, sit your ass down wherever the motherfucker that Was recording.
Yeah. That's why they got NDAs, though, man.
And he's wild in New England, so he can wild out right now. Y' all need me.
He gonna kill. He do his job.
We talked about that, like, when we used to. You know, we've been around some superstar people and they be like, hey, man, get that phone.
Lock it up.
Get them to lock them phones, killer. Cuz. A, you might not. You minding your business, bro. You ain't on that, bro. And we only know what it is. But the them, you know, just.
They going to assume the worst no matter what it.
I don't want that for you, man.
Cuz it's who he's around, bro. You around them foreign women, you know, they powder puffs. If that was four. If he had four sexy reds in front of him, that's probably some candy for sure. Definitely some sour path. You probably just would have seen this one. But he had your Colombiana.
Shout out to the important tariffs.
Yeah, I can't do that, bro.
Puerto Rican?
No, bro.
Shout out to the ethnicities.
I can't do that, bro.
Why not, bro? Look at it, Mike. That fits the set. It's kind of like.
Ah, Yeah. I don't think none of them celebrate Dream team, so.
Give me a Pablo T shirt, man.
Yeah, I can't laugh at this, bro. He gonna be like, that's you.
I ain't even inserting. Now, let's see. No drugs. You know, he's strict. No drugs, no drugs.
That's cool. That's cool. I'm talking about just, you know, having.
Your coach have a response that's first.
Yeah.
Like, that's.
How would you respond, Coach, if a.
Player had to respond to a player?
Yeah.
First of all, I don't think he's doing nothing wrong. I hope that's not nothing wrong.
Nah. Yeah, we joking about that.
Yeah.
I'm just saying.
I just wouldn't want to. That's what I'm saying. I was telling him, like, man, you gonna have fun. You on vacation, you doing your thing. Just tell them, I don't care that you got 15 girlfriends or you with 15 girls. I don't care. Just put them. Tell them to put their phone up. Y' all just enjoy the moment.
Before we got here, I wanted to ask you this. I was watching Coach Carter the other day. I forgot when they won the tournament, and then they all went out and party afterwards. I'm like, if you the head coach, you gotta go find your team. What you on?
Who, me? Yeah, man. I'M cool. So I'll just be. I'll round them all up, I sit them down, I just talk to them like, man, what y' all on? Like, what y' all doing, bro? Y' all trying to throw some shit away. Y' all trying to throw your life away. But I wouldn't, like, make em run the initial combo.
Gotta be calm, cool. You turn them up, turn up on em on the next one.
For sure I would, bro.
When my got back and found out that Grace was ass, bro.
Now that. That's. I'll be on that.
He lost it all, bro.
He lost Now.
I'll be on that, though, like, they great. Bad grades, bro. I'll be on that.
Yeah, bro, you playing with your future, bro.
Yeah, you can't allow that. I'll get to college, graduate. But you, man. Yeah, I'll be on that. Them grades be here. No, we'll tell on a heartbeat.
For sure.
I call you. I call a period. Harvey boy. Yeah, listen here. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Gotta get on Bobby ass.
So everybody hate you. Like, damn, had a good ass.
Bobby out like that. He don't got bad grades, but it's just like, we got an expectation for him. You know, he gonna be a D1 athlete. So it's like, hey, we ain't about to.
Nah, tighten up my. For sure.
And that support system is everywhere. Niggas think that. Nah, everybody's paying attention to you, bro. Make sure you succeed.
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Podcast Summary: Club 520 Podcast Episode Featuring Jeff Teague
Episode Title: Club 520 - Jeff Teague on BEEF with Pacers, SGA’s Legacy, Dylan Harper's NBA Comp, Stefon Diggs
Release Date: May 29, 2025
Hosts: Jeff Teague (@jeffteague), DJ Wells (@thatsanopiniondj), Bishop B Henn (@outthepearlys)
Platforms: iHeartPodcasts, The Volume, Shay Shay Media
The latest episode of Club 520 dives deep into a range of basketball topics, featuring insightful discussions led by NBA All-Star Jeff Teague alongside his co-hosts DJ Wells and Bishop B Henn. This episode encapsulates Teague’s experiences with the Indiana Pacers, examines Paul George’s (SGA) enduring legacy, evaluates Dylan Harper’s potential in the NBA compared to Tyrese Maxey, and offers perspectives on Stefon Diggs' role in the league. Below is a detailed breakdown of the key segments, enriched with notable quotes and timestamps for reference.
Jeff Teague opens the conversation by reflecting on his time with the Indiana Pacers, particularly focusing on the contentious trade involving star player Paul George. He explores the complexities of team dynamics, financial constraints, and personal relationships that led to George's departure.
Jeff Teague [57:55]: "When PG said he was going to be a Pacer for life... we traded Paul George for Oladipo. It's a bonus trade got us our franchise and SGAs and OKC because of PG."
DJ Wells [59:25]: "When he did that, it was just like, get better. They, like, let me walk. And he just told me, like, bro, we can't pay you."
Jeff Teague [60:45]: "He said, 'We can't pay you 20-something million dollars.'"
Bishop B Henn [61:32]: "He was like, man, I can't leave this. I'm like, yeah man, you gonna be MVP."
Teague expresses both disappointment and understanding regarding the trade, highlighting the tough decisions teams must make under financial constraints. He also touches on his evolving relationship with Paul George, ultimately conveying a sense of forgiveness and camaraderie despite past tensions.
The legacy of Paul George, often referred to as SGA, is a focal point in the discussion. The hosts analyze how George's presence and performance have left an indelible mark on both the Pacers and the broader NBA landscape.
The conversation underscores George's influence as a formidable player whose tenure with the Pacers elevated the team's competitive stature. The hosts commend his skills, leadership, and the standards he set during his time with the franchise.
A significant portion of the episode is dedicated to evaluating Dylan Harper's potential trajectory in the NBA. The hosts compare his playing style and attributes to those of Tyrese Maxey, debating the former's fit within contemporary NBA teams.
Bishop B Henn [14:42]: "Dylan Harper is like, he's not fast. He's like a Cade Cunningham type of player."
Jeff Teague [14:23]: "He has good size for his position."
DJ Wells [14:56]: "Dylan Harper is a scoring guard, but he can facilitate."
DJ Wells [15:32]: "I don't think Tyrese Maxey can score like that."
The hosts conclude that while Dylan Harper possesses a methodical approach and physicality akin to Cade Cunningham, he does not mirror Tyrese Maxey's speed and agility. They suggest that Harper's strengths lie in his scoring and facilitating abilities, making him a versatile asset for teams seeking a balanced guard.
Stefon Diggs is briefly discussed, focusing on his contributions and potential future impact within the league.
Though not extensively covered, the mention positions Diggs as a key player with substantial potential to influence his team's success in upcoming seasons.
A recurring theme in the episode is the discussion on how the competitive landscape of the NBA has transformed over the years. The hosts compare past and present training methodologies, team dynamics, and player development.
Jeff Teague [42:54]: "Kids don't play basketball like that no more. That is a lost art."
DJ Wells [41:21]: "Everybody a trainer these days, bro."
Jeff Teague [41:16]: "If you work with a trainer every day, you probably ain't gonna be that good."
The conversation critiques the modern emphasis on individual training and specialized skills, arguing that it detracts from the fundamental team-based play and athleticism that characterized earlier eras. They advocate for a balance between skill development and team cohesion to preserve the sport's integrity and competitiveness.
The hosts intersperse their discussions with personal stories and shout outs to various NBA players, both current and former, sharing their experiences and observations.
Bishop B Henn [36:34]: "He was like, he five five. Damn. I posted him up one game."
DJ Wells [37:30]: "You should play a little bit."
DJ Wells [38:05]: "He the only got the YMCA, bro, to always get picked up..."
These anecdotes serve to highlight the diverse range of talents in the NBA and the unique challenges posed by players of different physiques and playing styles.
Jeff Teague shares his insights on the current state of youth basketball, expressing concern over the lack of unstructured play and the shift towards competitive circuits like AAU.
Jeff Teague [43:00]: "But I'm trying to give y' all real basketball people hands."
Bishop B Henn [44:52]: "It's cool to go get the money."
DJ Wells [45:19]: "Bobby out like that. He don't got bad grades, but it's just like, we got an expectation for him."
The hosts emphasize the importance of fostering a love for the game rather than solely focusing on accolades or career advancement, advocating for a return to more organic, team-oriented play among young athletes.
Conclusion
This episode of Club 520 offers a rich tapestry of basketball discussions, blending personal experiences with analytical insights. Jeff Teague and his co-hosts navigate through complex topics such as team dynamics, player legacies, and the future of basketball training with a blend of humor and depth. Whether reflecting on past trades, evaluating emerging talents, or critiquing modern training practices, the hosts provide listeners with a comprehensive and engaging exploration of the game they love.
Note: Times and speaker attributions are based on the provided transcript and may vary slightly in the actual episode.