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Young Nacho
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DJ Wells
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Bishop B
All right, man. We back another episode of Club 520 podcast. I'm the host. My name is DJ Wells. Same gang with me to my left. We got my dog Bishop B. Head out the prayer le. How you what? Nasty.
Young Nacho
What's up, baby? Let's get to it.
Bishop B
Hey, man, that video resurfacing again, man? Your doppelganger in the club, man.
Young Nacho
Yeah.
Bishop B
Tuck it down. The white women, man. They said what? Bishop on the money done changed them.
Young Nacho
That currently at 800,000 views right now. Now I had to click on thank God I got tattoos. Chill. Thank God I got tattoos. That's the only thing.
DJ Wells
That's her name, Lindsay.
Young Nacho
Cuz, bro, I looked at that picture. I said, bro, that's crazy. Like, he in that. Like this.
Bishop B
He in the club wild.
Young Nacho
So shout out to that gentleman right there.
DJ Wells
You was in the middle of the club. W. I hate how he TR to do that.
Bishop B
It was you allegations.
Young Nacho
No, for sure.
Bishop B
That's funny as hell, man. So I write my dog Young Nacho. Young T. Got you. What?
DJ Wells
Man, I'm cool, man. I just got off the road. I hate driving.
Bishop B
Come on, man. Coach Eagle full effect.
Young Nacho
That drove an hour.
DJ Wells
Two hours. Two hours. That's four in one day.
Young Nacho
Act like he a sit by truck driver.
DJ Wells
I felt like it too. That's four hours in one day. I ain't going back no time soon, you know.
Bishop B
So that's it. No say for us, that's a quick little popping old trip. My boy. My boy said that's too much for the game, bro.
DJ Wells
I never go up two hours to eat some food.
Young Nacho
It was worth it, though, bro. You six zero this weekend?
DJ Wells
Six zero okay? Yep. Shout out to them.
Bishop B
Starting the vibes off, man, when y' all see this? Happy birthday to my dog, man. My boy working on his birthday boy.
Young Nacho
40 today.
DJ Wells
Nah, my birthday. My birthday on Tuesday.
Bishop B
Oh, damn. I thought I was on Monday. I'm out of pocket.
DJ Wells
No, no, no. My birthday.
Bishop B
I'm pumping my baby. You say he 40.
Young Nacho
He's 40.
DJ Wells
Dang. Turn up OG it's his birthday today.
Bishop B
Kurt Thomas B Day loading.
Young Nacho
Yeah, I with that. The ex is like that straight bruiser.
DJ Wells
Ever say I was 40? This older than me, the Cody Zealous 41. What you 41?
Young Nacho
I can't wait to turn 40.
DJ Wells
I can't.
Young Nacho
I can't wait.
Bishop B
Yeah, I can't wait.
Young Nacho
Y' all scared to be 40?
Bishop B
No, I'm happy to get older. I ain't in a rush.
DJ Wells
I can't wait till I'm like 90.
Young Nacho
Oh, nah.
DJ Wells
Cause I'm a boy. My tell all story gonna be crazy as hell.
Bishop B
You going like Quincy Jones.
DJ Wells
Yeah, I'm just gonna put the camera in front of me. I was like, Mike, you remember 50.
Bishop B
Years ago when we was podcasting, y'.
DJ Wells
All told me to tell them stories. I didn't tell these Press play.
Young Nacho
They gonna kill y' all.
Kurt Thomas
She gonna be young when y' all 92. That's crazy.
DJ Wells
Hey, now, you gonna be 84.
Kurt Thomas
70 something.
Bishop B
And the funny part is don't let it be in a situation where like, you know what I'm saying? Somebody gone already. Oh, get lies off because you ain't here. Disputed. Oh, I put smud on everybody. I hope I. I hope I outlive you.
DJ Wells
I Hope I died 97. You died 94.
Bishop B
Ran claws.
Young Nacho
I hope you just sit there slobbering everywhere.
DJ Wells
Open my teeth in. I was like, I remember that moment with the New York and that white girl was in the club. He tried to say what he'll it was you.
Bishop B
And photoshopped out the tattoos.
Young Nacho
Said, I want to outlive you. You ain't gonna be worth recording when you're 97.
Bishop B
Hey, imagine if they put on draft keys you put over under, like, hey, who gonna last longer? Me and my.
Young Nacho
And I hope you lose a leg.
Bishop B
God damn.
DJ Wells
Pause over under, who gonna last longer is crazy.
Bishop B
That is crazy. That's a nasty problem. Oh, man.
DJ Wells
Listen, y' all stupid, man.
Bishop B
A lot to talk about. I want to ask anybody here listen to the Carter 6, because I did not.
DJ Wells
Well, almost.
Young Nacho
I checked out a couple songs. I love the song. I ain't gonna lie. It's not my favorite album, of course, but song with big extra plug is fire to me.
Bishop B
Big ass did what he was supposed to do. I did catch a little bit of that.
DJ Wells
Oh, man.
Young Nacho
Yeah, that's cool.
Bishop B
I thought it was dope. He had a song with him and his son, but for legacy purposes, I don't want to hear it.
DJ Wells
I'm gonna keep it real with y' all, man. When they start posting them pictures of, like, the old undertaker, the old Kane versus the old dx where Shawn Michaels ain't cuss no more, I said, yeah, that's about right, bro.
Bishop B
A put the Pat Ewing magic jersey up. I said, anytime I see this picture, I know the Shaq Boston jersey.
DJ Wells
I was like, yeah, it's over for my dog. It's cool.
Young Nacho
I think it's over for him, though. You just gotta keep touring and do all your old shit, bro. Just be mixtape tour Wayne.
DJ Wells
You know what it is, man. Even when you go see Wayne live. And y' all know I love Wayne. We went to go. We seen him at J. Cole joint. He don't give you the show you want. It ain't that he ain't a good performer. It's like he got so much music that he need to go on tour and perform, like, albums. Like, hey, I'm performing a Carter 1 and 2. You know what I mean?
Kurt Thomas
Or did his set was, what, like 15, 20 minutes?
Young Nacho
Was it even out?
DJ Wells
It was like 30 minutes. But it was like.
Bishop B
It was with the hot boys, too. Was intertwined.
DJ Wells
Yeah, but then it was like, the songs. You would get a snippet of the song, like, thank you, thank you, thank you every time. But, like, if he went on tour and was like, yo, for all my day one fans, I'm dropping. I'm going with the hot boy album, or, I'm going with the block. It's hot. Whatever the albums was, then people probably appreciate it more.
Bishop B
Well, he's on tour Now, I know people went to the show at Master Square Garden and said it was a fire show. He didn't do any of the new album. They said he didn't play all the hits.
Young Nacho
But he had to keep bringing people out. That's what I'm saying. I think, like, so far, why I don't think he done is cause he can still tour, bro. That's a good idea for him to take. You feel me? Bring up your old shit.
DJ Wells
But I mean, he do his old. But when we went, bro, he was like.
Kurt Thomas
I think he done making new music.
Young Nacho
Oh, yeah.
Bishop B
Well, yeah, I'm not saying he's done, but like Wayne on the feature is still cold.
DJ Wells
That's all he need to do. He been going crazy, features no more album.
Bishop B
And if you're gonna do an album, let's. Let's get a little different of a production team in there. I think that's really what the.
Young Nacho
Yeah, my boy know he explored with a lot though.
Bishop B
Yes.
Young Nacho
Wayne is a pure artist.
DJ Wells
You talking about drugs or that's all the above.
Kurt Thomas
That jelly Roll song is stuck in my head though.
DJ Wells
What's it called? Jelly Roll?
Kurt Thomas
Yeah, the one with jelly roll. Snakes in the grass, sharks in the water.
DJ Wells
It just.
Bishop B
It's Wayne, so it's not trash. But compared to Wayne's, what you compare.
Young Nacho
It to, that one is Carter too, and you not getting that no more.
Bishop B
Nigga, I would take Carter somewhere at this point.
DJ Wells
I just don't think he, like, I'm not. Who the fuck am I to talk about you Great at your craft.
Bishop B
Yeah. Wayne is a good.
DJ Wells
One of the best you ever do. So how can I speak on what you want to do with your life? But when I look at other greats that like. I like the way they age. Pause. Like Jay Z aged with his music. We listen to him. It's like his music like, okay, we're growing up.
Bishop B
Yeah.
Young Nacho
Yeah.
DJ Wells
I don't feel like Wayne ever aged. Like, it's like.
Young Nacho
Well, that's cause he disconnected himself from the world too.
DJ Wells
But it's like, damn, I remember that sound like Squad Up Wayne like that. It don't sound like squad Up Wayne, but he's still rapping like squad up one.
Young Nacho
Yeah.
Bishop B
And it's fucked up because realistically in hip hop, we don't even get too many artists that get to even get older to like gracefully age. Like, you look at Biggie and Pac. Them niggas died at 25, basically. Yeah, that's crazy. We don't even know what they would be like. Now with social media, that shit. So we don't have too many examples of it. But you look at the Nas, you look at the Jays. Like, some of the prominent rap, they age gracefully. Like, Nas made dope albums the last couple years, but again, he had a young producer in his pocket.
Young Nacho
You gotta stay with the times, though. Ain't too many rap artists, bro. Dropping an album now, and they still gonna be fire. It's gonna be hard.
Bishop B
I agree.
Young Nacho
It's gonna be hard because music is so different now. Rap is so different now.
DJ Wells
Like, but when somebody give you, like, I give you an example. Pusha T and Malice, they dropped that song. Yeah, that was fire.
Bishop B
Yeah, they're always going to be phenomenal.
DJ Wells
And they like old. They older rappers, but that shit was fire. Like, I'm like, this how old rappers should sound. Ace Trumpet, man, that was fire.
Young Nacho
It was.
DJ Wells
That was a hard.
Young Nacho
I still love to hear Fab and Jada on, though.
DJ Wells
Yeah, but you can hear they, like, age with their music.
Kurt Thomas
I feel like Jeezy makes grown up rap music. He's grown now.
DJ Wells
Yeah. Even when he did the snow.
Bishop B
What's the snowfall?
DJ Wells
Yeah, snowfall.
Bishop B
Drama joint.
DJ Wells
Yeah, that was. That was. That was cool.
Young Nacho
That other shit he ate on that ESTG song too.
Bishop B
All the realist. That's one of my favorite rap songs, bro.
Young Nacho
So he definitely.
DJ Wells
He aged with his music, too, but a few.
Young Nacho
It's a few. It's just we had.
DJ Wells
We were so Rick Ross age with all his music.
Young Nacho
We were so big on Wayne growing up, bro. He was our childhood. Like, Fabian really wasn't our childhood. They was, but not really. Like, we look, we grew up with Lil Wayne, bro.
DJ Wells
Yeah, I was. I was more inspired by Fab, though. I ain't gonna lie.
Bishop B
Yeah, Fab from, like, the fashion. That's with the jerseys, the swag.
Young Nacho
Yeah, I'm just talking about the music, though. Those tapes, it's crazy.
DJ Wells
Wayne was the goat, but it was just like, he was so you, like, you couldn't be Wayne, you know what I mean?
Young Nacho
He was too far gone.
DJ Wells
He was too gone, bro. I'm like, I can't.
Bishop B
I'm dating myself about my Nigga with the MySpace background, bro. With the bait purple jacket, bro. Like, that was iconic, bro. Niggas look wanted to do that, bro, but you just couldn't do that.
DJ Wells
You couldn't do it.
Bishop B
It was a different time.
Young Nacho
I just don't know who has more music than him. That's Fire.
DJ Wells
Who got a better catalog.
Young Nacho
That's why he can do trash shit and it's okay.
DJ Wells
You saying who got a better catalog?
Young Nacho
Yes.
Bishop B
His catalog is tough to beat. A lot of people gonna say his music didn't age well, but I'm not.
DJ Wells
Buying that it didn't.
Bishop B
I mean, it's tough. Nobody.
DJ Wells
It's tough to say that.
Bishop B
It's tough to say anybody. Music really aged well.
DJ Wells
You can go listen to Reasonable Doubt right now, and Reasonable Doubt, it's gonna be like, yeah, this is a good album.
Bishop B
That's fair. But we are talking about Jay, too.
DJ Wells
Yeah, but I'm saying we look at Wayne as one of the greatest ever.
Young Nacho
I would still listen to Carter 1.
DJ Wells
Or Carter 2 for sure.
Young Nacho
But every mixtape I'll still bump.
DJ Wells
It's nostalgia to us. It is like. But if you go listen to some of them, like, you'd be like. Like, if you really just play it for, like, somebody that's a young guy, they'd be like, this ass, bro. Y' all thought this shit was tight. Like, I've done it with my nephew.
Young Nacho
Yeah. Malcolm probably can't understand no ceilings, but that's a classic.
DJ Wells
It's so fire to us.
Bishop B
Don't pop out for the disrespect mouth. No, that's okay. I guess they go to Wayne mixtape discography, but it's a lot of he. We was hooping and Dedication two came out. Somebody was like. Like, Skip, that's like, hey, you shut the up.
DJ Wells
That's what I'm saying, bro.
Bishop B
I felt disrespected, bro.
Young Nacho
Skip, that is hilarious.
DJ Wells
Like, he. He got like. Like, you know, everybody know a million seven foot, six foot, seven foot, all that. But the shit that we like, it don't really come on like Birdman Jr. And all that shit, bro. Like, them shits is like classic songs, but you don't never. You rarely hear them. You know what I mean?
Bishop B
I know we're gonna get off the subject, but I want to ask how y' all feel about this? People a little bit older than me always say they like Carter 1 over Carter 2. And I've been seeing a lot of heavy people saying Carter 1 is better than Carter 2. How y' all feel about that?
DJ Wells
I'm a Carter 1 fan. That's his best album to me.
Bishop B
I'm not mad at it, bro.
DJ Wells
The way he described a fucking crack house or a project building, I should say, will the Carter, if y' all ever watched fucking New Jack. Yeah, New Jack City. The way he describes the Carter is unbelievable in that song.
Young Nacho
I'm really overthinking.
DJ Wells
That shit was fire like that took. Yeah, that took Wayne to a different.
Young Nacho
Wayne is elite. I'm probably a Carter too.
Bishop B
Car too for me. But I Miss My Dogs is a top tier rap song, bro.
DJ Wells
Man. Birdman Jr. Bro.
Bishop B
Play the corner like Ripken.
DJ Wells
What? The 40 child.
Bishop B
I know we've had this conversation many times, but I'm gonna do it before we get off the subject. Birdman Jr. The mob.
DJ Wells
The Mob. The Mob. My favorite Wayne song.
Bishop B
The Mob might be one of the best intro songs of all time.
DJ Wells
Yeah, the Mob. Mike that in Tuscan leather and one of Jeezy intros. Jeezy Got Fire intros every time.
Bishop B
Oh yeah.
Young Nacho
Kevin Gates, Luca Brown singing.
Bishop B
You fuck with that tough mid you earlier.
DJ Wells
Gates the Mob with that motherfucker, man. He played in his concert and I.
Bishop B
Don'T want you to stop that all the way through.
DJ Wells
He only played for 20 seconds.
Bishop B
Tuscan leather is a fire ass song. It's 3B flips and he goes crazy on every single one of them, bro.
DJ Wells
I like Tuscan leather, but I'mma pick the Mob as the greatest intro. I ain't going to lie.
Bishop B
I am a little disappointed that we don't have any like Drake and Wayne music. Or Drake, Wayne and Nicky music. I know we got to see Green a couple years ago, but I hate that they don't really do music.
Young Nacho
I would love that now.
DJ Wells
I ain't going to lie. Standing ovation though. That's the intro to thug motivation 101, ain't it?
Young Nacho
Gotti used to have some fire shit.
DJ Wells
On his tapes too.
Young Nacho
Cocaine music.
DJ Wells
That standard ovation, bro.
Bishop B
I told him straight. Drop this and Ziploc that, man. What? On the race lines while I kept that strap.
Young Nacho
Standing ovation or Dreams and Nightmares.
DJ Wells
I mean Dreams and Nightmares.
Bishop B
Dreams and Nightmares is an anthem, so you gotta go with it.
DJ Wells
Yeah, that one's crazy.
Bishop B
It's a cheat code.
DJ Wells
That's crazy.
Bishop B
It's a cheat code.
DJ Wells
You know what other intro I like from Meek? Lord knows.
Young Nacho
Yeah, yeah, he got inventory Lane from Crazy Jeezy actually got a few.
Bishop B
Yeah, I saw you on Twitter causing havoc with the Jeezy and T.I. conversation.
Young Nacho
Yeah, I was a real question. I guess I'd bring it here to us. Like who. Who got a better catalog? Rap catalog.
Bishop B
It's. That's a tough ass conversation because did not give Flipper hair enough credit, bro. His. Yeah, his discography is so crazy, bro.
DJ Wells
I used to love trap music.
Bishop B
Trap music is crazy. Urban legend is insane.
Young Nacho
I think T.I. has better albums.
Bishop B
Paper Trail and that's a Later album. That's fire.
Young Nacho
I think T, I got better albums.
DJ Wells
But is it better than Thug Motivator? He don't got nothing better.
Bishop B
I think Thug Mother. Oh, that's. That's such a tough.
DJ Wells
He has nothing better.
Bishop B
That's the best album of the discography. But if you put Urban Legend and trap music right under that first five.
Young Nacho
Songs on Urban Legend, it's crazy.
DJ Wells
Tim. First, you think it's better than Thug Motivation? The first five songs.
Young Nacho
Not for. Not for My Car, the Thumb. Different for Jeezy, but I don't know, T. I just. That's who gracefully aged, bro.
Bishop B
For sure.
DJ Wells
Yeah. I like it like.
Young Nacho
But King is fire, bro.
Bishop B
King. The fact that he dropped King at the same time the ATL went out in the movie theaters. I know we dating ourselves with this, bro. That's crazy, bro.
DJ Wells
Hey, what's Jesus.
Young Nacho
What you know about that, bro? I really. I really love that song, bro.
Bishop B
Here's the. Here's the problem. That conversation. Jeezy second album is not the best. Even though it is fire. It is not the best version.
DJ Wells
It's cool. But you know what's fire?
Bishop B
Recession.
DJ Wells
Recession.
Bishop B
The recession.
DJ Wells
That's crazy. TM103 Fire.
Bishop B
Fire.
DJ Wells
What? That's that. They got them hits on that.
Young Nacho
That's what got the hits. That got the club, man. What was growing.
DJ Wells
What am I doing? Wake up in the morning who the am I screwing?
Young Nacho
That can still come on today.
Bishop B
What?
DJ Wells
Yeah, I'm gonna take Jeezy.
Young Nacho
That's my favorite Jeezy song.
Bishop B
I'mma take G. I gotta roll with Clifford in this. I woke up other than two white.
DJ Wells
Girl from the Pink Pony be He was with the club, man.
Young Nacho
Give me off them white women, man. Shout out to all the bunnies. Dr. Umar. I'm sorry.
Bishop B
That's what they said. They was like, damn. We thought he was downar.
Young Nacho
I know, man. They playing on my name, bro.
Bishop B
103, that was my classic music, man. Spinning that. If y' all haven't in a while. I'm serious. As far too by ti if you.
DJ Wells
Not too Fire T. That's two classics, bro. I don't know if you pick. Whoever you pick, you can't go wrong with.
Bishop B
Nah, you can't lose it all. But speaking of music, did y' all see Rob 49 shout out to 520 alumni try to put the chain on lil Baby while he was performing?
Young Nacho
Yeah, that shit crazy.
DJ Wells
I ain't see what happened.
Bishop B
Shout out to Baby, man, for me.
Young Nacho
Try to put it on him, man, like Chill, bro. Then he tried to. Nah, nigga, I got you. He grabbed it, like. And he just held the chain up. He didn't tweak out on him, but he like, oh. He like, nigga, I'mma just hold it.
Bishop B
I got you.
Young Nacho
Just chill out. I'mma finish performing.
Bishop B
I don't want this around my neck, bro.
DJ Wells
Yeah, I'm real faux Pierre.
Young Nacho
Yeah. Like, I fuck with it. I fuck with it.
Bishop B
Shout out to Baby bro. He brought out, I'm saying, Lucci.
DJ Wells
Yeah, that was.
Young Nacho
I was confused.
Bishop B
Yeah. Very interesting. I know there's a lot of background between that. I don't know too much about the streets or the rap beef, but that was interesting. But I ain't mad at people piecing it up.
DJ Wells
Me either.
Young Nacho
I'm all for a piece, but I just. That one threw me off.
DJ Wells
I did, too. Cause the Thug, you know, I don't know. I don't care.
Bishop B
I don't know about Trisha. I know a lot of people done been to jail, got out of jail. I'm happy that people can be adults and move past, because it ain't helping.
DJ Wells
I. With Luchi, though, you know? Seven, six, two, My favorite song.
Young Nacho
Yeah.
DJ Wells
My third favorite song of all time.
Young Nacho
762 can get bumped. That's one of the slow songs that get bumped in the club. And everybody gonna sing that word for word, huh?
DJ Wells
Yeah.
Young Nacho
Yeah, he snapped on that. But I don't know. I just seen that. I was like, maybe figured it out. Maybe niggas figured it out. And if they did us good, bro, that's good for the city, especially the city of Atlanta. For sure.
Bishop B
Especially in that situation, bro. All these. As the. The major heads of all. Jordan Crump and these, bro, are going to jail, bro. And people got out. A lot of people go to jail, don't make it back. So whatever happens, shout out to y' all for figuring it out.
Young Nacho
Thug about to go on tour.
DJ Wells
Oh, for real?
Young Nacho
He got a. Okay. Jeffrey, he doing a festival in Chicago, I think, in a couple weeks.
Bishop B
I ain't mad at it.
Young Nacho
Yeah.
Bishop B
I fuck with the First Day out concert. I'm something on it. That's another discographer. That's crazy, too.
DJ Wells
Yeah, Jeffrey.
Bishop B
Yeah. Thug is a part of a lot of classic songs, bro.
Young Nacho
He is, bro. He kind of slept on, for real. One of the biggest. He's top five ever in Atlanta.
Bishop B
That's tough, brother.
Young Nacho
You said it on that one is the top five artists ever to come out of the A.
DJ Wells
All right, Jeezy. Okay, okay.
Young Nacho
Don't go in the order.
Bishop B
Just definitely have to put gucci up there.
DJ Wells
Ti. So ti gucci, jeezy future, then thug.
Young Nacho
Yeah.
DJ Wells
What about outkast? Andre 2000? Outkast.
Bishop B
All right, so you gotta put cast up there.
Young Nacho
I. I respect it, bro. This is different times.
Kurt Thomas
What are the merits of this? Like the biggest or like y' all favorite?
Young Nacho
Nah, this is, this is imprint on the city.
Bishop B
Yeah, I would say a lot of influence as well. You gotta have all the influence. Atlanta got a lot of crazy artists.
Young Nacho
Thug is different. Yeah, it ain't no disrespect to the artist. Thug is responsible for a lot of major artists today.
DJ Wells
Not more. Not more than a Gucci.
Young Nacho
No, no, but that's it though.
Bishop B
But for the new generation, I could definitely.
DJ Wells
I love who you reading over there.
Kurt Thomas
You got Gucci, Future, Andre 3000, Ludacris, Big Boy, Thug, TI Outkast.
Bishop B
I don't like Outkast. Separated. They gotta be as a group together.
Kurt Thomas
Killer Mike.
DJ Wells
I mean, shout out to Killer Mike.
Kurt Thomas
Soulja Boy. I feel like Soulja Boy should get a lot more credit on this list. Only because of his impact in music, I swear.
DJ Wells
Soulja Boy, one of the goats.
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Bishop B
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Greg Lodd
I know a lot of cops and they get asked all the time, have you ever had to shoot your gun? Sometimes the answer is yes. But there's a company dedicated to a future where the answer will always be no.
Bishop B
Across the country, cops call this Taser the Revolution.
Greg Lodd
But not everyone was convinced it was that simple.
Clayton English
Cops believed everything that Taser told them.
Greg Lodd
From Lava For Good and the team that brought you Bone Valley comes a story about what happened when a multi billion dollar company dedicated itself to one visionary mission. This is Absolute Season one, Taser Incorporated.
Clayton English
I get right back there and it's bad.
Bishop B
It's really, really bad. Really bad.
Greg Lodd
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Michael Kassin
I'm Clayton English. I'm Greg Lodd and this is season two of the War on Drugs podcast. Sir, we are back in a big way.
Clayton English
In a very big way. Real people, real perspectives.
Michael Kassin
This kind of star studded a little bit, man. We got Ricky Williams, NFL player, Heisman Trophy winner.
Kurt Thomas
It's just the compassionate choice to allow players all reasonable means to care for themselves.
Clayton English
Music stars Marcus King, John Osborne for Brothers Osborne.
Bishop B
We have this misunderstanding of what this.
Michael Kassin
Quote unquote drug fans Benny the Butcher.
Clayton English
Francis Smith from Shinedown got be real from Cypress Hill, NHL enforcer Riley Cote.
Michael Kassin
Marine Corvette, MMA fighter Liz Karamouche.
Anjali Sud
What we're doing now isn't working and.
Bishop B
We need to change things.
Clayton English
Stories matter and it brings a face to them.
Michael Kassin
It makes it real.
Clayton English
It really does. It makes it real.
Michael Kassin
Listen to new episodes of the War on Drugs Podcast, Season 2 on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcast. And to Hear episodes of one week early and ad free with exclusive content. Subscribe to Lava for Good. Plus on Apple podcast.
E
I'm Michael Kassin, founder and CEO of 3C Ventures and your guide on Good Company, the podcast where I sit down with the boldest innovators shaping what's next. In this episode, I'm joined by Anjali Sud, CEO of Tubi, for a conversation that's anything but ordinary. We dive into the competitive world of streaming, how she's turning so called niche into mainstream gold. Connecting audiences with stories that truly make them feel seen.
Anjali Sud
What others dismiss as niche, we embrace as core. It's this idea that there's so many stories out there and if you can find a way to curate and help the right person discover the right content. The term that we always hear from our audience is that they feel seen.
E
Get a front row seat to where media, marketing, technology, entertainment and sports collide and hear how leaders like Angelique are carving out space and shaking things up a bit in the most crowded of markets. Listen to Good company on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcast.
Bishop B
Changed the way people made.
Kurt Thomas
Music, his impact on music and being.
DJ Wells
From he's the first rapper on YouTube.
Young Nacho
Facts.
Bishop B
But what he did on Lawmar and all them sites, bro.
Young Nacho
Drake be his flow too.
Bishop B
Big. Draco.
Young Nacho
I just. Thug is just.
Kurt Thomas
That's what I was asking. Like what is the I the gay influence?
Bishop B
If you're going by body of work, I mean, Thug is definitely up there. Like you said, he inspired the next generation.
DJ Wells
I'm not putting him over Outkast, but.
Bishop B
Yeah, I can't put him over Outcast.
Young Nacho
I respect y' all for that, bro.
DJ Wells
He's six, though.
Bishop B
But that's not good.
Kurt Thomas
And if you go by like sales, I feel like TI and Ludacris probably sold more than.
Young Nacho
Oh yeah, Ludacris is underrated as them is in CD. Eras is buying CDs. That's. I don't compare CD to streamers.
Bishop B
I respect that. I remember we saw when Malcolm weaves that dream festival. He was like, damn ludicrous. I'm like, man, know him from Fast and Furious. No, Luna had slaps.
Young Nacho
Yeah. You gotta think though. Thug is responsible for Uzi and baby, that's big.
DJ Wells
Yeah, he can Uzi. What the he had on this?
Young Nacho
Send this to my phone.
DJ Wells
Bro. Hey, that had on heels, bro. That had to be. That gotta be fake, bro.
Young Nacho
Hopefully it's AI.
DJ Wells
But it has to be AI.
Young Nacho
He. He trolls a lot too, though.
Bishop B
Uzi trolls a lot that do whatever he want to, bro.
DJ Wells
Yeah, yeah. I ain't really. That's too good.
Bishop B
You Know what's crazy?
DJ Wells
I don't be my ass, bro. I don't want no smoke.
Bishop B
I don't know if that's the wildest thing he's doing. And that's the spirit.
DJ Wells
Yeah. That is crazy, though.
Bishop B
Yeah, that's.
DJ Wells
That's.
Young Nacho
That is crazy. That's od.
Bishop B
Yeah, he's. He's out of pocket for that.
Young Nacho
But he a troll, bro.
DJ Wells
Man, that the funniest though he ever did, bruh. That's what. He would eat that Popsicle or whatever. And that boy, them kids got off the bus. He said that to me every day. We used to laugh about that every day. He loved Uzi, bro. Yeah. I just moved over here.
Young Nacho
I think Uzi is funny. He's a troll, bro. He's a troll.
Bishop B
Oh, he. He wanted life, bro.
Young Nacho
Yeah.
Bishop B
Slaps. Got a nice girl out the way. Took a city girl off the market, bro.
Young Nacho
Yeah, he's pushing the needle with that. But that's why I put Thug up there, though, bro. Cause you. We got some Wayne shit.
DJ Wells
Yeah, I mean, I feel that we gotta ask Mike about his going to the concert.
Kurt Thomas
See, I know I hate concerts. Like, I hate going to them, but that was actually. And I've been to a lot of concerts. That was pretty fire.
Bishop B
Mike pulled up for the Scissors and the k dot.
Young Nacho
IT was.
Kurt Thomas
It was far. I actually appreciated them not having, like, those filler openers because that shit really bothers me. Like, what am I here for? Is wasting my time. But Mustard opened up. He had a good, like, 35, 40 minutes of him, like, just going crazy. Surprisingly, they played some Drake joints in there, but, I mean, the crowd loved it. Kendrick came out, I think, to squabble up. He came out, squabble up, and then SZA came in, and it was like they kept going back and forth. They do a song together. Scissors, stay out there. Do a song together. Kendrick, stay out there.
DJ Wells
Back.
Kurt Thomas
It was. It was crazy. The production was. It was fire. It was fire.
Bishop B
Those are two amazing artists. Like, if I'm going to a concert, you getting your money's worth, for sure.
Young Nacho
Yeah. I think people forget how big Scissor really is.
Kurt Thomas
I didn't realize that part.
DJ Wells
I wanted to ask y' all that because we debating a little bit. Scissor is fire, but who you like more? All right, what's my girl that's going on concert with Chris Brown?
Bishop B
Summer Walker.
DJ Wells
Yeah. Who y' all like more, SZA or Summer Walker?
Bishop B
I like Summer Walker as a singer better. But as far as music, better, I'm Gonna go with Sza after the concert.
DJ Wells
I'm going Sza I like. Bro, when Summer Walker performs, she don't do nothing. She just sit in a chair.
Young Nacho
Yeah, she trey songs for sure, but.
DJ Wells
Nigga, her voice is so good, and then her songs are so fire, the whole crowd sing them.
Young Nacho
Oh, yeah, she can drop the mic. She can ride waves some shit.
DJ Wells
Nah, that shit is crazy.
Young Nacho
Yeah, she can ride waves some shit, but I don't know, man.
DJ Wells
Sza fire.
Young Nacho
Maybe. Maybe in my ghetto girl era, probably summer, But Scissor, like, scissor. Grown up music.
Bishop B
I love control, so I'm. I'm biased for scissor, but yeah, she got some slaps, bro.
Young Nacho
Someone Walker be jamming like a mother.
Bishop B
Oh, God, her music is amazing. It makes us overlook all the other. Because she be wilding.
Young Nacho
We don't care. She fried, but she the biggest. She the biggest ones, like, the age from, like, 18 and up. She's the biggest.
Bishop B
Everybody's going on tour this summer, too. Somebody.
DJ Wells
Yeah, I'm about to ask who. Who y' all going to see? Are y' all going to the Chris Brown Scissors? I mean, Summer Walker tour?
Bishop B
I'm something. I'm seeing Chris Brown. I'll be free.
Young Nacho
I have to go to that.
DJ Wells
Yeah, that's Fire.
Bishop B
T Pain going on tour, too.
DJ Wells
T. Pain is.
Bishop B
That's a. That's a hell of an artist.
Young Nacho
I love T Pain. I will go see T Pain.
DJ Wells
But they gonna have Bryson Tiller on that tour, too, right?
Young Nacho
Yeah.
DJ Wells
It's Janae Aiku, Bryson Taylor, Summer Walker, and Chris Brown.
Young Nacho
Would y' all guess how much Bryson Tiller gets the show?
Bishop B
Nah.
DJ Wells
35, 100.
Young Nacho
Y' all think it's retarded? Are y' all crazy?
DJ Wells
35,000.
Bishop B
Last time I seen Bryson Tiller, bro, respect. He had his baby girl out there. She was singing songs. I was like, yeah, shout out to Bryson Tiller.
Young Nacho
You gotta give Bryson over 300,000 to perform.
Bishop B
Excuse me.
Young Nacho
Over 300,000.
Kurt Thomas
That's probably why we don't see him too much.
Young Nacho
Yeah, that's fact.
Bishop B
I respect it.
DJ Wells
300,000.
Bishop B
I.
DJ Wells
He getting 300,000 off one album. I with.
Bishop B
I love Trap Soul, but I will hear don't on YouTube before I pay that fee. Shout out to him.
Young Nacho
L. I just tell you how big the is, though, people. That's underrated artist for sure.
DJ Wells
I mean, that motherfucker's underdog. The sink.
Young Nacho
300 the same.
DJ Wells
Ain't nobody that opening act. Ain't nobody paying 300, 000 for that.
Young Nacho
Oh, bro, he's big, bro.
DJ Wells
I'm not saying he's not a big.
Bishop B
Artist, but shout out to Bryson. But I don't got it, bro.
DJ Wells
But I don't think nobody got. Yeah, that might have one show a year for 300.
Young Nacho
What he calls bro.
DJ Wells
Yeah, bro.
Young Nacho
He can't get out the bed, bro.
Bishop B
So we can't get him at the Vogue Day party, bro.
DJ Wells
No, no, I know. He was too big for that. Now that first. That one album was trap song was amazing.
Young Nacho
Preston Tiller. Preston Tiller.
DJ Wells
What's the interlude? That interlude? Oh, that open interlude on that song. Scd that song hard.
Young Nacho
I even like that song. I mean, you know, get well soon Diddy, but I like that song with him and Diddy. It actually slaps.
Bishop B
I'm not sure. I'm not sure if he's gonna perform that anymore. It's a compilation of people going recently, putting all the Diddy bars and songs. They were just like, what did you mean by this?
DJ Wells
And it's funny.
Young Nacho
I bet my brother. My brother cut them all about the Benjamin yesterday. I'm like it, bro. Let's rock out, bro. Who else you got, bro?
DJ Wells
Yeah, I remember when Shorty crashed out on. What's that show he's making? Walk with Cheesecake. The band.
Bishop B
Yeah.
DJ Wells
Remember when she ain't making her, like, sister had died or something and she had crashed up. They were showing that, like. Yeah, that's what I should have known. Some was crazy. He cut a whole. He cut a person and they. Sister died.
Young Nacho
He didn't give a.
DJ Wells
He didn't get no. About nobody. She was going crazy. Hey, man, she. Hey, somebody wilding over there. Y' all better get her. They could have no concern about her, bro.
Bishop B
You know what's so crazy, bro? That was the peak of reality cv because he had to do a complete bullshit, right?
Young Nacho
I would want somebody else to do making a bando. Somebody gotta do that. One of these other big artists gotta do that shit.
Bishop B
But you gotta have somebody crazy enough to make it like that. Entertaining. Cause that era of TV is unmatched, bro.
Young Nacho
It is, bro. But I. I think somebody could do it. Y' all gonna make me think about who.
Bishop B
But the Drew Ski shit's the closest shit.
Young Nacho
Yeah, but you know that's for bullshit.
DJ Wells
Ain't nobody as up as Diddy. Diddy was up, bruh.
Young Nacho
That is genius, though.
DJ Wells
When he cuts out the dance teacher and then flipped it on her. I said, he's crazy.
Young Nacho
Oh, yeah, bro.
Bishop B
We was in New York where they was at and where Juniors was Bro, I quit. There's no way I'm walking here for this mid ass cheesecake, bro.
DJ Wells
She said, they gotta learn a dance move. He said, you expect somebody to learn the dance moves in one day?
Young Nacho
He said, yes, she'd be on it. She's still doing that today.
DJ Wells
She's like, get the out of here. He flipped it on her. Like, why she talking to me like that? He just cussed her out.
Young Nacho
Like, bro, what do y' all think? Y' all can learn a dance routine in the day?
DJ Wells
Yeah. No, I'm talented.
Bishop B
I am not. I am behind the scenes.
Kurt Thomas
I can do a lot of things, but dancing ain't one of them.
DJ Wells
I got, I got, I got skills.
Young Nacho
Shout out to the 5:20 praise team today, bro.
Kurt Thomas
No, I can't.
Bishop B
We see Mike Bowen skills on display.
Kurt Thomas
I've never seen. I've never seen Mike bow a little bit. I'm fire.
Young Nacho
He said, he's better than all y' all. He led Terrell win.
Kurt Thomas
Landslide.
Bishop B
Terrell is the best ball I have ever seen in my life. Oh. Oh, that's. Hey.
Young Nacho
I asked him soon as came out.
Kurt Thomas
He had the highest score yesterday. Marcus definitely.
DJ Wells
I, I, I didn't even have a real ball. I ain't bring my ball. I ain't know was I. I ain't.
Young Nacho
Know was on come with their bags and shoes and stuff.
Bishop B
Came with a roll. I said, I got three balls.
DJ Wells
Pause. Like, I got three bowling balls and pair of shoes. I just didn't bring them.
Kurt Thomas
It really didn't feel like people were serious. I was like, oh, they ain't really serious.
DJ Wells
Cap. This nigga was throwing a ball.
Bishop B
He had a towel in his back.
DJ Wells
Pocket on his shoulder.
Kurt Thomas
I ain't even pulled the one out.
Young Nacho
Of my back pocket.
Kurt Thomas
It wasn't necessary.
Bishop B
This one, I knew she was out of pocket. My nigga had to just do it backtown. I said, this nigga too locked in.
Young Nacho
I ain't even had to pull it out.
DJ Wells
You know what? Run it back.
Young Nacho
He definitely told me y' all suck. He did some crazy shit at the end just to let to real win. Gutter.
DJ Wells
He was really pissy. Gutter. Got a gutter. But I was rolling. You know me. I'm gassing it, too.
Kurt Thomas
I was trying to show how I up.
Bishop B
Nah, Terrell did me one of the coldest balls I've ever seen in my life, bro.
Kurt Thomas
I don't like that dj, but I'm sorry, bro. We were side by side.
Bishop B
I gave you. I gave you a respect, right?
Young Nacho
I literally think he could do Everything.
Kurt Thomas
I literally can't.
Young Nacho
It's kind of crazy.
Kurt Thomas
I literally can't.
DJ Wells
He can't, though.
Young Nacho
Y' all know when we talk, that's how people really with this show. They really want to see y' all lined up.
DJ Wells
Bro. Bro, I'm going.
Young Nacho
You got a referee.
DJ Wells
This bum came to me, was like, why this Think he could really guard you? I said, I don't know why the he think this. I've talked about Richard Sherman. This thing is coming.
Kurt Thomas
I want to. I want to go. I want to go ahead and rewind that. That. That clip. I never said I could guard you. I said you couldn't guard me.
DJ Wells
Line it up.
Young Nacho
He got to get your ref te.
DJ Wells
And I roll my ankle, but I ain't tripping. I still guard that.
Kurt Thomas
He always got an excuse, y' all.
DJ Wells
I can't play the big excuse.
Kurt Thomas
Yesterday, I forgot my ball.
Young Nacho
I couldn't bow cuz I forgot my boy.
DJ Wells
Swear to God I did. She actually told me we halfway driving, like, yeah. Mike said he bringing this ball. I said, damn, gonna bring that bowling ball. I seen Phil. I seen Terrell walk in with him. I said, man, I really was leaving.
Kurt Thomas
In the car, and I saw Terrell pull his bag out. I was like, oh, okay.
DJ Wells
Yeah.
Bishop B
When I seen. With their own bowling shoes. I thought Terrell had on products yesterday. I said, I have never seen these before in my life.
DJ Wells
I got Jordan 1 bowling shoes.
Kurt Thomas
I need to look that up. Them sounded tight.
Bishop B
Hey, shout out to my Buffy, man. He threw the ball so hard yesterday that the ball that I was bowling with was no longer there. It disappeared. I got comfortable, you know what I'm saying? Got his try, and it never came back. I said, this ball because you was.
Young Nacho
Throwing that too hard.
Bishop B
You know what I'm saying?
DJ Wells
All hard as. I said, look at dj. I said, this is fire throwing a bounce pad. Broke the wood.
Bishop B
Cut passes.
DJ Wells
Bubby threw the ball so hard, bro. I was like, bub, just lay off the Roy, bro. I know you try to get the 235, but damn, bro, you look like the Rock, bro.
Bishop B
We was the only people who didn't have no spins on our throws. We were straight down the fastball. Otani, bro, what I'm talking about.
DJ Wells
Y' all see that dude speaking the whole time. You see that dude get hit in the head with that baseball? Yeah, I'm nothing. I take my. I take what I said back. I want no smoke with that. I'm not going to the batting cage.
Young Nacho
That was a whole accident, bro.
DJ Wells
That damn killed that man. Yeah, bro.
Young Nacho
Thank God he had that hat on.
DJ Wells
They ain't do shit.
Bishop B
I ain't gonna hold you, bro. Going to play baseball. You know what I'm saying? Occasionally you catch a couple, you know, straight pitches to the body. Hit you with a high fastball to the head, bro. That helmet ain't.
DJ Wells
Bro.
Bishop B
Ain't enough cushion in the world, bro.
DJ Wells
You ain't have a helmet on. I think they got a baseball cap.
Young Nacho
And look how scared you gonna be trying to look at that.
DJ Wells
Oh, that was crazy. Look how scared you gonna be trying to look at them.
Young Nacho
That's how you gotta hold the bag, bro. You don't hold it with one hand. Gotta get right.
Bishop B
You know what's crazy? You know what it's called in baseball when you do that? It's called choking up. Choke up the bat.
Young Nacho
Oh, that's what they call it.
Bishop B
Yeah.
Young Nacho
Oh, that been around for years.
Bishop B
Hey, that's why. Hey, did you see what I sent you about the pastor? Please bring that up for everybody, man.
DJ Wells
What the pastor do?
Bishop B
Hey, man, we.
Young Nacho
This is good.
Bishop B
Hey, man, shout out to the church. Be here. You really need your own church, man. If can do this, bro, you gotta tap in for sure, man. I gotta give y' all official name, man. This is crazy.
DJ Wells
As, man, while you looking it up, you know what's funny? You came to the game, one of the youngsters was like, hey, we're buddy.
Bishop B
That had the ice on. I was rolling. He said, buddy with the ice left.
DJ Wells
He's like. He was talking to me. Where you leave Buddy with the Iceland? I was rolling. I've been to call you, like, looking for your ass, man.
Young Nacho
Who I was talking to. I sent him his money. I sent him his money. Shout out to my guy.
DJ Wells
Yeah.
Bishop B
He was like, really?
DJ Wells
With the ice, the chain where he asked. I think he left.
Bishop B
He said, oh, hell no. Be hitting at the summer games.
Young Nacho
Beside bets I was betting against pike.
Bishop B
He took under be all people.
DJ Wells
So you talking about the Megan mansion house?
Bishop B
Yeah, man. Bishop Hillard, Man. Six home, 24 acres, 15 elms.
DJ Wells
I have seen that. Damn. That's kind of fire, though.
Bishop B
You're going to have to bring back the Greenleaf, man. If they doing that, bro, we got to get you back in the ministry, bro.
Young Nacho
Six homes. I'm cool, bro.
DJ Wells
Would y' all live like that?
Young Nacho
Nah, because my family gonna want to be move in.
DJ Wells
Yeah, I mean, I think that's what that was for.
Kurt Thomas
That's actually my ideal situation.
DJ Wells
You want all your family live right there.
Kurt Thomas
The joint behind Meridian I mean, not Maria, but Michigan. It's enough.
Young Nacho
Not.
Kurt Thomas
This is close as fuck, but, like, back there. Put an acre between each one of your house. You smooth.
DJ Wells
Yeah, I know.
Bishop B
Yeah, I'm cool. I love my family, but there's not a situation where I want to ride past my family on the way home every day. Cause somebody's gonna get on my nerves.
Young Nacho
I don't know how filled y' all family is with kids. Like, it's a shit ton of us, so that's a no go. So it's naughty. I don't give a fuck how much money I got. I would never.
Bishop B
Yeah, I need to see y' all when I walk.
Young Nacho
It's three motherfuckers in my family pregnant at the same time right now. No, Cap, it's dead, bro. I couldn't dare. I don't even know which family members I would pick to move and watch this.
Bishop B
Not a family draft. That's where shit get tricky.
Young Nacho
You gotta have a real draft, though.
Kurt Thomas
That's actually very valid.
DJ Wells
Do everybody got a favorite, like, brother or sister?
Kurt Thomas
I only got one.
Bishop B
I only have one brother, so he my favorite, by the way.
Young Nacho
Me? Nah, we. I'm pretty much like, everybody. The same for me.
Kurt Thomas
I feel like everybody got, like, a favorite cousin.
Bishop B
Oh, now the cousin, auntie, uncle, hierarchy is real.
DJ Wells
Yeah, I got a favorite cousin. Yeah.
Young Nacho
Oh, y' all legit. Got a favorite cousin by landslide. Got a favorite niece. Got a favorite nephew. I also have a favorite kid.
Kurt Thomas
No, for real. I got a favorite kid.
Bishop B
At some point, we're gonna have a have an honest conversation with parents, and y' all do have a favorite kid. Y' all just won't say it.
Kurt Thomas
If I had multiple brothers and sisters, I imagine I probably would have a favorite.
Greg Lodd
I know a lot of cops, and they get asked all the time, have you ever had to shoot your gun? Sometimes the answer is yes. But there's a company dedicated to a future where the answer will always be no.
Bishop B
Across the country, cops called this Taser the revolution.
Greg Lodd
But not everyone was convinced it was that simple.
Clayton English
Cops believed everything that Taser told them.
Greg Lodd
From Lava for good and the team that brought you Bone Valley, comes a story about what happened when a multi billion dollar company dedicated itself to one visionary mission. This is Absolute Season one, Taser Incorporated.
Clayton English
I get right back there, and it's bad.
Bishop B
It's really, really, really bad.
Greg Lodd
Listen to new episodes of Absolute Season 1, Taser Incorporated on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Binge episodes 1, 2, and 3 on May 20, 21st and episodes 4, 5 and 6 on June 4th. Ad free at Lava for Good plus on Apple Podcasts.
Michael Kassin
I'm Clayton English. I'm Greg Lod and this is season two of the War on Drugs podcast. Sir, we are back in a big way.
Clayton English
In a very big way. Real people, real perspectives.
Michael Kassin
This is kind of star studded a little bit, man. We got Ricky Williams, NFL player, Heisman Trophy winner.
Kurt Thomas
It's just the compassionate choice to allow players all reasonable means to care for themselves.
Clayton English
Music stars Marcus King, John Osborne from Brothers Osborne.
Bishop B
We have this misunderstanding of what this.
DJ Wells
Quote unquote drug thing is.
Clayton English
Benny the Butcher, Brent Smith from Shinedown.
Michael Kassin
Got Be real from Cypress Hill, NHL enforcer Riley Cote, Marine Corps vet MMA fighter Liz Caramouche.
Anjali Sud
What we're doing now isn't working and.
Bishop B
We need to change that.
Clayton English
Stories matter and it brings a face to them.
Michael Kassin
It makes it real.
Clayton English
It really does. It makes it real.
Michael Kassin
Listen to new episodes of the War on Drugs Podcast Season 2 on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. And to hear episodes one week early and ad free with exclusive content. Subscribe to Lava for Good plus on Apple Podcast.
Kurt Thomas
Foreign.
E
Founder and CEO of 3C Ventures and your guide on Good Company, the podcast where I sit down with the boldest innovators shaping what's next. In this episode I'm joined by Anjali Sud, CEO of Tubi, for a conversation that's anything but ordinary. We dive into the competitive world of streaming. How she's turning so called niche into mainstream gold. Connecting audiences with stories that truly make them feel seen.
Anjali Sud
What others dismiss as niche we embrace as core. It's this idea that there's so many stories out there and if you can find a way to curate and help the right person discover the right content. The term that we always hear from our audience is that they feel seen.
E
Get a front row seat to where media, marketing, technology, entertainment and sports collide and hear how leaders like Angeli are carving out space and and shaking things up a bit in the most crowded of markets. Listen to Good company on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.
DJ Wells
I love all my brothers and sisters saying but Marcus is the baby and he like my little brother.
Kurt Thomas
So you feel like he belongs to you.
DJ Wells
Yeah, he like. I mean obviously I know he everybody little brother but he like literally my only little brother. I'm somebody else's little brother. Yeah, you know what I mean.
Young Nacho
I'm the youngest out of 10.
Bishop B
So, yeah, I'm the baby. My brother 10 years older than me.
DJ Wells
Yeah. So y' all the little brothers. I get a chance to be a big brother, so that's why he my like.
Young Nacho
Nah, bro. Yeah, I have a favorite in everything. I also have a favorite parent.
Kurt Thomas
Facts.
DJ Wells
Nice.
Bishop B
That's funny. I fuck with both my parents the same, just different relationships.
Young Nacho
I do.
DJ Wells
My dad would tell you. My mom, my favorite parent.
Bishop B
Yeah.
DJ Wells
Og my dad. My dad would say he a mama, boy, he still got a nipple.
Kurt Thomas
My dad probably would say the exact.
Young Nacho
Same shit, for sure.
Kurt Thomas
But I like my mama more anyway, so.
Bishop B
Yeah, but the aunties of conversation, boy. Yeah, it would be a real a.
DJ Wells
I ain't got no favorite uncle. I do no disrespect to none of my uncles, but I ain't never really been cool with none of my uncles. Like, I ain't never really been cool with them. I grew up cool. Like, they all cool people, but I ain't never had, like, no relationship with them.
Young Nacho
Yeah, my uncles pass. I got, like, extended uncle, so I.
DJ Wells
Definitely think, bro, I got, like. I don't really see my uncles like that.
Bishop B
Yeah, I got some aunties here.
DJ Wells
Y' all cool, though.
Bishop B
Y' all. Y' all ain't gonna make it in the compound. You know what I'm saying? I hope y' all are blessed. I'm gonna see y' all holidays, but y' all cannot live in this residence.
DJ Wells
But my aunties. That's where it get tricky.
Bishop B
You gonna make a call your family especially.
DJ Wells
Yeah, I got a lot of aunties. That's cool.
Young Nacho
I don't even know how y' all.
DJ Wells
Would pick, but my Aunt Niecy, that my nigga. Yeah, that's my dog. That's my dog.
Young Nacho
You'll get a crib. I don't know who I would.
Bishop B
Oh, yeah, for sure.
Young Nacho
Got.
DJ Wells
She really love your dogs, man. I can't listen.
Kurt Thomas
No, this is.
DJ Wells
This is easy.
Young Nacho
That's easy for you.
Bishop B
Yeah.
DJ Wells
Listen. Yeah. All my brothers and sisters, Kawana be over there by. Ain't easy. I ain't gonna do people like that. Moog get a crib for sure.
Bishop B
Yeah, Moog's in the car. I agree.
DJ Wells
Six houses, right?
Kurt Thomas
Ya moms and pops get a crib for sure. See, you got lucky because that's just one crib. Yeah, I gotta take away two for that one.
DJ Wells
Oh, they gonna have to link back up. We gonna have to work this thing.
Bishop B
You try to fuck up the whole neighborhood.
Young Nacho
So my family is still together now. What do y' all do. If your mama and daddy got new.
Bishop B
Situations, which that pair I don't fuck with.
Young Nacho
Now that's where the favor kicks in.
Kurt Thomas
I gotta include Sierra people in this too.
Bishop B
No, you don't.
Kurt Thomas
It's a rap that's extended.
Young Nacho
Oh yeah. Split three and three.
Kurt Thomas
Her mama get a crib, I guess.
Bishop B
Oh, no, no, no. I'm, I'm, I'm pulling rank. No, this is my estate. Your family is extended. Fuck them.
DJ Wells
Awesome.
Bishop B
See, fuck them. They are not involved in this.
DJ Wells
Wow, that is crazy.
Bishop B
Yeah, I see y' all at family like, you know what I'm saying? Christmas I can see slide. They give a with me, bro.
Young Nacho
You guys split it up.
Bishop B
No, no, bro, this is my state, bro.
Kurt Thomas
I can't get Cheyenne the crib, so I can't get my little sister crib. But then everybody else, I got cover.
Bishop B
See, look, what decision what you should.
DJ Wells
Do is just have a guest house too so anybody can come stay when they want to.
Bishop B
Now getting people out the guest house is going to be a real problem, cuz. What's the, the limitations on how long?
Young Nacho
What I'm going do is I will put everybody on the lease. Everybody be on a 12 month cycle.
Kurt Thomas
Oh, no, they, they don't, they don't stand for free.
Young Nacho
No, the are you putting on?
Kurt Thomas
I'm not saying y' all gotta pay.
Young Nacho
I got that. You only gotta pay nothing but your utilities.
Bishop B
No, no, he said they're going to.
Kurt Thomas
Pay a portion at least the property taxes. You can't play the property tax.
DJ Wells
Mike is.
Bishop B
Mike is putting.
Young Nacho
No, no, there's seven of them.
Bishop B
That is listed as a $15 million profit. Let's do the numbers.
Young Nacho
I'm like, okay, let's do the numbers. Let's do the numbers.
Kurt Thomas
It's a 15 million dollar crib.
Bishop B
Yeah.
Kurt Thomas
Say taxes for the year is 65,000.
DJ Wells
That was more than that, bro.
Kurt Thomas
A hundred thousand, Is that better?
DJ Wells
It's more than that.
Kurt Thomas
It's not gonna be more than 100,000.
DJ Wells
Nigga, my taxes was 50,000. Yes, that.
Kurt Thomas
This ain't in Meridian Hills.
DJ Wells
If you got this much space, where you think that is? It's 15 million.
Kurt Thomas
You had to buy that much land. The property assessed around it is not gonna be that crazy.
Bishop B
Now let's for fun say it's 100%, 100 beds, right. Divided by 12 months, right?
Young Nacho
Yeah.
Kurt Thomas
No, divided by seven versus seven different cribs.
Bishop B
Oh, okay.
Young Nacho
So you the big chunk though?
Kurt Thomas
Yeah, I'll take the bigger chunk.
Bishop B
Okay, okay.
DJ Wells
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
Kurt Thomas
No, I'll take the bigger.
DJ Wells
The property tax is like 2, 2, 200.
Kurt Thomas
Call it 210 or what? 30,000 per house.
Bishop B
Yeah, if it was eagle, about 12.
Young Nacho
Divided by 12, they can figure it out.
Kurt Thomas
That's a nice mortgage.
Bishop B
Some people can't afford to be there, and they gotta pay you, too. They gonna buy it. I'm gonna stay where I'm at.
Kurt Thomas
That's a nice mortgage.
Young Nacho
Yeah, I'm cool. Shout out to him, though.
DJ Wells
Shout out to him for finessing the church.
Bishop B
Yeah, bro, I don't even know what.
Young Nacho
You do to get that type of money out of a church, though. I always want to know how bad.
DJ Wells
Soda Martin Mama Payne was tripping. I used to think pastor comes to have my mama like that, man.
Young Nacho
Boy, y' all was putting pastor coverage through it.
DJ Wells
I used to be like, mama, I done donated a couple times. This church I came back to pews still the same.
Young Nacho
Oh, yeah. She's like, nah, nah, Shanice. Mama donated, too.
DJ Wells
Let me stop playing pastor co. He about to start trying to joke, and my mama go get mad. She gonna call me. They be watching y' all show.
Young Nacho
Oh, yeah, Let me stop. That's my guy.
DJ Wells
Yes.
Kurt Thomas
I said he lives super easy.
DJ Wells
Yeah, he live in Hobby.
Young Nacho
We love Pasco, man. He let every street. All your favorite street that died, had their funeral at Fun and for free.
Bishop B
Your favorite trapper in their wedding.
Young Nacho
Yeah.
Bishop B
Yes, bro.
Young Nacho
The same that got married in here died at this, too.
DJ Wells
He didn't die there.
Young Nacho
I'm just saying, when it was time.
DJ Wells
Mama know he did.
Young Nacho
Yeah, I know. Also real. This is Rip. So his. His brother gonna be mad at me, but this is a real shit, bro. Went to his funeral, bro, on everything. His wedding picture. You know, when they. When you die, you, casket. They got all your cool pictures around you.
DJ Wells
Yeah, bro.
Young Nacho
His picture from his wedding was there. It said. That is crazy.
DJ Wells
It is. I. I know stories like this and.
Bishop B
My collage make it better. Honestly, this is my time. Don't put my wedding picture up here. This is about me.
DJ Wells
All right.
Bishop B
We did both go. This is about me and the guys, though.
DJ Wells
This is dark, but what do you want? Where will you. Will you get fresh in your casket, bro?
Bishop B
I gotta have to sit on, bro.
Young Nacho
I don't.
DJ Wells
Bro, how you going?
Young Nacho
Just put up. Just put a shirt on me.
DJ Wells
A T shirt.
Young Nacho
Yeah, that's it. No, I'm talking about, bro. Just a T shirt and some jeans. I'm cool.
Bishop B
Okay.
Young Nacho
I ain't trying to get fresh.
Kurt Thomas
He said, keep the bottom.
DJ Wells
So you just Want to ox the.
Bishop B
Door, shirt up D the bread.
DJ Wells
Yeah, 95, you just want a T shirt.
Young Nacho
I just want a tea, bro. I know, bro. Don't sweat, but I know. Be hot.
DJ Wells
Burn me up, 95.
Bishop B
Cream at me, bro. Yeah, I'm dead. I don't give a. Bro, No.
DJ Wells
I don't want nobody to pay all that stuff for no funeral.
Young Nacho
I agree, bro.
Bishop B
It's a waste of money, bro. I'm dead, bro. I don't care.
Young Nacho
I want my girl to kiss me on the lips, bro.
DJ Wells
She's not going with the lips again.
Young Nacho
See me out here with a. Put your tongue. Give me a little tongue.
DJ Wells
I'm trying to save money like I'm nothing, bro. Matter of fact, and I'm gonna tell everybody before I die, I'm spending every. If I got. If I died, I got $7 million left. I swear to God, like, at 94, I'm going crazy.
Young Nacho
I'm buying Lambo.
DJ Wells
I'm buying everything. I ain't leaving nothing for nobody.
Young Nacho
Gotta get how you live.
DJ Wells
What if I got some kids? They gonna get.
Young Nacho
I'm gonna leave normal at that old.
DJ Wells
Damn.
Bishop B
We gonna leave 100 bands.
DJ Wells
100 bands, bro. I ain't my mama. Daddy give me nothing.
Bishop B
See, we try to change the cycle.
Young Nacho
T, he's out of pocket 94, bro. You better hope you still sane to do that type of stuff.
DJ Wells
Oh, if I ain't, I'm gonna write it down. I want to buy a Lamborghini once.
Young Nacho
I gotta start changing me. Go on, just. Yeah, give me the poison.
DJ Wells
Yeah, bro. I'm trying to live till I'm 90. I'm doing everything in my power.
Bishop B
Give me the lane, bro.
Young Nacho
I'm saying, but what if a gotta change you and pick you up?
DJ Wells
You ain't gotta do that. Don't come over here.
Young Nacho
I mean, how are you gonna function, bro?
DJ Wells
Pay somebody.
Bishop B
Yeah. When I become a nuisance, bro, I.
DJ Wells
Don'T need my kids. Only no cousins, no nephews, nieces.
Young Nacho
I don't give a damn who it is. I don't want nobody doing that to me, bro. Lifting me up every day, bro. Changing my life.
DJ Wells
Because I want. I want to be. I told you. I want everybody come to my house. I just want to talk a bunch of. To them, like, boy, you ain't gonna be worth. Look at you. I just want to sit there and just talk bad. Everybody.
Young Nacho
No, that's gonna be Mike at 94.
Bishop B
And they're gonna be like. He gonna be like ghost at the end of Power with the last episode. He Said, you know what? You always needed me. That's why you ain't gonna be. He disrespected everybody.
DJ Wells
That's what I want.
Bishop B
That's why I smoked that. Everybody.
Young Nacho
Y' all ever see why I get married the at the end? Who told at the table? That's Mike at 90. Damn.
DJ Wells
Now I'm saying, hey, I'm gonna go crazy.
Bishop B
That's one of the best scenes in movie history. I don't know if y' all seen the Taraji Henson movie on Netflix. Please watch it. We'll talk it next episode. It's crazy. But that's one of the best ISOs in history. He sat at that table, everybody. He's all, niggas are snitching on me from my side, bitch. Bet we gonna have a time tonight.
Young Nacho
What you gonna wear, though? What you wanna put on?
DJ Wells
I'm gonna be 90. I'm gonna retire my Hawks jersey.
Young Nacho
You gonna burn that.
DJ Wells
Hey, black dude could never give it up, man.
Bishop B
Wait. 0 or W00.
DJ Wells
Okay. 0V with a shirt on under.
Young Nacho
Skid. Gonna be loose as hell. Look like that. Been soaking in the bathtub. What a dead look like with no shirt on. That probably look crazy.
Bishop B
Look like Deadpool underneath that costume.
Young Nacho
I wonder why turn gray. My uncle was gray in the. I said, damn. I knew I was like that. My uncle was light skinned, man. God bless his name. My uncle Kitty. I said, damn.
Bishop B
They said a bar.
Young Nacho
Look at t sw.
DJ Wells
I said, hey, what's wrong with y.
Bishop B
Hey, speaking of family, did you see the Davis brothers jump here off right after the fight?
DJ Wells
Somebody got some jump.
Bishop B
Yeah, the boxers.
DJ Wells
Oh, yeah.
Bishop B
I said, that's some Jeff and Mook right there.
Young Nacho
Oh, no. For sure.
DJ Wells
Oh, yeah. It's no fair fights when we around. Y' all can cancel Christmas if you ever think y about fight one of us 101. You a damn fool. Hey, don't let our friends be there. Oh, yeah, but I don't. I. I ain't into no competition no more. Now.
Bishop B
I thought that was hilarious. He's sitting there, my brother. Yeah, we go. See you.
DJ Wells
Yeah. Facts.
Young Nacho
Did y' all get the chance to check out the bees and wins one on one?
Bishop B
Unfortunately, I did watch that, bro. Yeah, it went how we expected.
DJ Wells
Too much filing, bro. I watched like 30 seconds, bro.
Young Nacho
It was. But God damn, bro. Michael Beasley put on a clinic, bro.
Bishop B
When Kyrie Irving says I would never play him one on one, that is a sign, bro.
DJ Wells
Right too. He can do everything. 6, 9, 610.
Bishop B
One of the most gifted basketball players, ISO 101 you've ever seen. Beasley is like that for sure.
DJ Wells
Yeah.
Young Nacho
He wanted them getting to your spot still. And a fouling you like that, bro, is wild, insane.
Bishop B
But you know what? Shout out to everybody who hooped. The undercard stuff was fire as well, too. That I know a lot of people paying for, like, the 10 GS. I like the next chapter, man. That's dope. That's a prime example that the NBA should adapt some of that. I'm not sure how they're gonna do it, but that would be dope to see, because you'll get some of the stars of people we don't think it's all stars and superstars a chance to really show how good they are.
Kurt Thomas
If y' all ever got a chance to interview Adam Silver, what kind of stuff y' all think y' all talk to him about? About changing the All Star Game, Shit like that.
Bishop B
It would depend upon if the Pacers win the chip or not. Because if we win, then, you know, saying, my question list will change. Okay, I'm gonna start there.
Young Nacho
Well, I just want to ask him, what made you even start messing with the NBA? Like, what. How was your journey just entering the NBA? Cause I'm like, how do you even sign up for something like that?
DJ Wells
I probably ask him more about, like, retired player stuff, like how we could do better. Even though I know they trying to bridge the gap, like when people retire, like, setting up payment plans for them to get to their, you know, their retirement money. Yeah, but I was about, you know, people get your pension at, like, 55, but n retire at, like, 31. So I'll be like, man, I know they got a bridge plan now, but I was just wondering, like, what they would do different.
Young Nacho
Yeah.
Bishop B
On the same topic, I'd have asked about the Tony Snell situation. That's like, something that's very interesting. Somebody was in a unique situation that close to getting that. Especially with his, you know what I'm saying, coming out, saying he's autistic and then trying to take care of his kids with specific health plans. I would really like to see, like, what's the plan in motion for that? Like you said, you return, a lot of people turn to 30, wait until 55. I mean, of course you don't want to say nobody's gonna be gone, but that's a long gap. That's 22 years. Yeah, that's a big of a gap.
Young Nacho
But how do you sign up just to start working with the NBA Bro, what kind of connections you gotta have?
Bishop B
I know he got a law background for sure. I'm gonna ask him if he. Who he tall as hell.
DJ Wells
I know.
Young Nacho
I'm like, shit, I wonder if you had a jumper back in the day.
DJ Wells
I also asked him, like, you know, I think for me, I think it should be a rule where, like, once you get your second contract that you, like, every year, whatever it is, you gotta put a million dollars in a plan. This will be mine. Like, you gotta put a million dollars in that plan in an investment portfolio, where it can grow over time every year until you retire. So if you retire with 6, $7 million, you can have 6, $7 million to last you till you get to your pension.
Bishop B
That's far.
DJ Wells
Yeah, I would do that. I mean, even though you got people that can do it for you financial, but I'd rather it be with the NBA, so, you know, like, ain't nobody stealing from you. Cause that's a lot of things that happen to players. They get with financial advisors. They be stealing and doing all type of crazy shit.
Young Nacho
This is crazy.
Bishop B
Yeah. You talk about bees. I know bees dealt with a lot of backdoor with his finances as well. And you look at shit like Tim Duncan, like, Kareem. Some of the best players that ever.
DJ Wells
Played this sport got robbed. People like, like. And they. Obviously, they made millions on millions and millions. But just see, the greatest people of all time, they get tricked a little bit, too.
Young Nacho
Yeah. Antoine Walker still buying all them properties and stuff. But that's still a crazy story, bro.
DJ Wells
Yeah, but I think that'll be. I think that'll save a lot of people, and it would help a lot of people. Cause you don't even know, like, when you playing basketball, you don't notice that. You not saying. If they took it from you, you wouldn't even notice it.
Young Nacho
Yeah.
DJ Wells
How we gonna take a million? Nobody would care. Okay.
Young Nacho
Nah. Especially if you doing it for that.
Bishop B
Most definitely, I think. Another question I ask him how he feels about the media. Cause we've been seeing a lot of stuff going on, especially with this final series. I mean, listen, I'm grateful Patience went a chip, but this is lackluster as shit. And I don't even think it has anything to do with the team's plan. It's like the coverage with them transitioning, it's just been like, blah. Like, this don't feel like the Finals.
Kurt Thomas
I want to ask you about that. Like, how do y' all feel about, like, now not having, like, finals shit, like, on the Whatever.
DJ Wells
People falling and hurting themselves.
Bishop B
Cool. I'm understanding.
DJ Wells
If it's for the finals court, they said that.
Bishop B
The cow. Yeah, they say it was a hazard. I'm fine with that. Y' all be playing fast. You don't want to get hurt. But I see y' all do advertising that you can put that shit at least for the broadcast. Maybe if it's not on our court, y' all do everything else. The Toronto Raptors had a fucking hologram.
DJ Wells
So they could do the fake shit.
Bishop B
They did a hologram behind the basket, which was weird to watch, but you can do something, bro.
DJ Wells
They could put the fake shit down like they was doing. But my biggest thing is, like, I told you about this series, and that's not me hating. The markets are so small. Like, even though it's probably the best you could get as far as basketball, like, these two teams mirror each other. It's a great basket. If you're a basketball fan, it's a great series to watch. But if you just an average sports fan, it's awful.
Bishop B
Yep.
DJ Wells
Right. Cause the market's just too many. You're not really familiar with anything in Indiana.
Bishop B
Nope.
DJ Wells
You're not familiar with nothing with okc. You might know the players, but not really. Like, people still look at LeBron as the face of the league, and he is, but that's what people still look at. Like, some people just like basketball. Cause they like the Lakers and Kobe Bryant.
Bishop B
They don't know shit else and don't care.
DJ Wells
Don't care about nothing else. So when I seen that it was going to be Indiana okc, I was like, damn, the rating's going to be down. But for basketball purists, this is the.
Bishop B
Best we could get, even to the broadcast team. I know they defensive by doors. Burgers just, like, shout out to Richard Jefferson. I think Richard Jefferson is dope. He's funny as shit. But, like, we missed the days of Mark Jackson and fucking coach and Mike Breen. Like, those. We look for those moments. We don't got that right now. And all you get is a lot of consumers who just bash a product. And then you look across the board from different media. Like, y' all not watching these games. I know everybody don't watch these games. It's impossible. But y' all don't even have the energy to, like, speak highly of the game. Y' all just shit on everything.
DJ Wells
It just. The NBA's changed so much. Cause you don't have stars of stars. Like, I mean, like I said, when you had Kobe, he was Like a star of stars. Like, if you didn't watch basketball, you still knew who Kobe Bryant was.
Young Nacho
That's a fact.
DJ Wells
Regardless of, like, LeBron, if LeBron was in this finals, this would be a whole different story. Cause if you don't watch basketball, you still know who LeBron James is.
Young Nacho
That's a fact.
DJ Wells
And that's the thing we don't have.
Young Nacho
In this now, this new generation. Yeah, that is. You gotta kinda know.
DJ Wells
Yeah, you gotta.
Young Nacho
Cause Kobe N was in movies, TV shows, all kind of stuff.
DJ Wells
Yeah. You know what I mean? Like, LeBron got space jam, all that shit, whatever. But like, I was thinking the other day, like, if Tyrese Halliburton in the basketball world, if he got traded, would it stop everything? Like when Luka got traded? No, if SGA got traded, you think it would stop everything, like, when Luka got traded?
Bishop B
Nope. Nope.
Young Nacho
Yeah.
DJ Wells
You think it would stop? Yeah, I don't think it'd be the same reaction.
Bishop B
The people of okc, that's big. But think about it, though. How many stars have already left okc? If it was like the first time, bro, they didn't give a fuck. Really. When KD left, even though he went to the warriors, everybody was shitty that he went there. It wasn't the fact that he left there. It was the fact that he went to the wars.
Young Nacho
Whooping trade. Sga, bro. That's the mvp.
Kurt Thomas
I think it depends on where you go to. Cause I think the Luca trade was so big. Not he left, but because he went to the.
DJ Wells
I think him just getting traded, period, like, it would have been big. It was ridiculous. Like, what, Y' all traded him?
Bishop B
Yeah, but like you said to the Lakers and LeBron, it was just like.
Kurt Thomas
If SGA went to the Celtics.
Young Nacho
Yeah, it would be.
DJ Wells
You think it'll be big?
Kurt Thomas
It would go just as big.
DJ Wells
I don't know.
Bishop B
Depends on who they did. Like, if it was like SGA for Jayson Tatum, everybody be like, what the fuck?
DJ Wells
Yeah, but I don't think it'll be such a. I mean, they'd be like, oh. I mean, I see what you said, the trade. They'd probably be like, I mean, this.
Bishop B
Is crazy why they did that.
DJ Wells
Yeah.
Young Nacho
Like, I see it still had a.
DJ Wells
NBA world in a chokehold. But when Luka got traded, this thing was like.
Young Nacho
That was a global affair.
DJ Wells
Yeah, this was like, global. And I was just wondering, would that happen? And maybe that's the feeling. We done gotten this NBA Finals.
Young Nacho
That's right.
Bishop B
Cause you look at it now, bro, everybody's Wondering where Kevin Durant's about to go. More than just about this final. They look like what Cooper Flag is about to do. They look like what the spurs went with. The number two pick. Where Giannis might go. It's people more Victor. When Miano went and kicked it with the Monks and shaved his head, niggas is like, oh, he about to kill next year. Like, all the things. The off season. I'm telling you, whoever wins, it don't matter if it's Pacers or okc. The next week, that shit gonna be out the cycle, bro. They like, all right. Summer league. What Kool Flag about to do.
DJ Wells
Yeah, they kind of. They kind of shitted on this finals, and it's.
Bishop B
It's nasty.
DJ Wells
As a person who love ball, it's like, damn, man. This is, like, this is good shit, but it's just not the right markets.
Bishop B
Yeah, it's the pinnacle, bro. Like, this is supposed to be. They treat this shit like All Star Weekend, bro.
DJ Wells
I've been there, though. Cause our finals was like that when it was us, Milwaukee and Phoenix. Yeah, it was the same kind of situation.
Bishop B
And that was good. That was good basketball.
DJ Wells
Yeah, but it was only. Like, it was only fire to people who watch basketball. Like, it was only good. Like, it wasn't lit.
Young Nacho
He saying, there ain't too many of these dudes walking outside now and everybody going crazy.
DJ Wells
Hell, nah, it wasn't lit. But, like, I played with Lynn Sanity. I told y' all, that's how I thought the finals was about to be. Like, Lynn Sanity. Like, when I tell you it was. Damn. There's 700 cameras under the rim when he was just warming up. That's what I thought when I seen the final. Like, we about to go to the finals. Like, n. I'm gonna get an endorsement deal just for being on a team. Yeah, that shit was not like that. He was walking that motherfucker. I'm like, damn. This feel like. Damn. Feel like regular practice, man. It's a couple more interviews for people.
Young Nacho
He was damn near like. Like Mike, though, he was just so popular. Yeah, ain't nobody been bigger than that, bro.
Bishop B
He had a T ball, like, run, bro.
Young Nacho
Yeah, like, nobody's been that big. That might not ever happen again.
Bishop B
And you know what's nasty? That's the reason why I've been complaining about tickets. I know it's the finals, but, bro, it feels like a Tuesday game against Bridge, bro. Why am I paying five more times for this, bro? This is crazy. Y' all don't even want to gas the product enough for me to feel like I'm getting my money's worth.
Young Nacho
Yeah, that's where I agree with you on that.
Bishop B
Yeah, Like, y' all not even. Yeah, you go watch first take niggas like, oh, yeah, that's cool. All right, man. What the Cowboys gonna do? Like, God damn. Like, talking about.
DJ Wells
And when I was talking about Aaron Rodgers more than they was talking about the game, I was like, damn, that's crazy.
Bishop B
Disgusting, bro. Honor the game, man. It's a lot of people who give a fuck about the game that y' all don't highlight, man. We gotta look into that more for sure. But I do think KD about to be a spur. I think that's.
DJ Wells
If he do that, he gonna. That's gonna fuck up.
Bishop B
Katie gonna be a spur, and they gonna keep the 2 pick and it's gonna go crazy.
Young Nacho
Yeah. That's gonna destroy the NBA. It's gonna make it fun.
DJ Wells
Be fire.
Young Nacho
It's gonna make it fun.
Bishop B
Y' all bring the energy back, bro. Devin Booker is rumored to get an extension for two years. It's over a hundred plus. It's looking at possibly like about 120, 125.
Young Nacho
Sit down.
Bishop B
I am a. I'm a son for life.
DJ Wells
Yeah, I love that. I seen that. The Detroit Pistons are going after Miles Turner.
Bishop B
Yeah. The phone is broke. Stop calling.
Young Nacho
No, it's not.
DJ Wells
He a free agent.
Bishop B
The phone is broke.
DJ Wells
It ain't. He's a free agent.
Young Nacho
That's what I'm saying, bro.
DJ Wells
It's not K. Cunningham with Miles Turner. I like it.
Bishop B
I don't like the energy. After we win a chip, we gonna pay miles to 100 mil for three years.
Young Nacho
You already said we win the luxury regardless.
DJ Wells
That ain't gonna be enough money if y' all win a chip, Miles. 100 million for three years. That ain't gonna be enough, boy.
Bishop B
Miles, you don't even like Coney Dogs like that, bro. You don't like.
DJ Wells
It's the same place.
Bishop B
We can get buffs here.
DJ Wells
My Detroit and Indianapolis.
Bishop B
He here. We can make it happen. The team bus.
Kurt Thomas
These technically ain't bus because I told you.
DJ Wells
Versace. What are they?
Kurt Thomas
I mean, not. It's still Cartier, but it's just old buffalo. Mike teemu.com 31Respect.
DJ Wells
Yeah, shipping included. If he go there, though, it's the same type of weather.
Young Nacho
Oh, it's the same.
DJ Wells
Yeah. But if you get a four year.
Young Nacho
Deal, they got a Patriots have to pay for 125.
DJ Wells
Four years. 125 for miles.
Bishop B
Yeah, Come on, bro. We got. We got some. You know what I'm saying? We got some. You're gonna have something here.
Young Nacho
Give Miles Turner 150 million, bro.
Bishop B
You are up our salary cap.
Young Nacho
Oh, give him 150 or let him go. Be happy.
Bishop B
Honestly, if we win a chip and you go get 150, I'm not mad, bro.
DJ Wells
It's time for him to cash in, bro.
Young Nacho
It is time, bro. 150 right now. He is deserving of it.
DJ Wells
About to be 30. It's time to kill.
Bishop B
Y' all trying to stress me out, bro. I'm trying to win this and be happy. Y' all trying to tell me I got half? Thomas Brian is my starting five next year.
Young Nacho
Chip or not, bro. Chip or not, y' all gotta pay Miles, bro. Trip or not, you out of pocket.
Bishop B
If he going to Detroit. Jalen Durham better be a Pacer. That's all I'm gonna say. I don't even like this talk, but if he's going to Detroit, then Jalen Durham has to be Pacer, bro.
Young Nacho
Thomas Bryant, you the new starter.
Bishop B
Hey, my Thomas Bryant, corner three specialist, bro.
DJ Wells
Oh, good.
Bishop B
I will not speak no more.
DJ Wells
They gonna sign Thomas Bryant to a 3 year 12.
Young Nacho
Thomas Bryan, get your 3 year 25.
Bishop B
He can get the 3 years 12 in Detroit. I love that. Him and Isaiah Stewart would be great fives for that team.
Young Nacho
Nah, bro.
DJ Wells
Nah. Miles going to Detroit.
Bishop B
Nah, Miles ain't going to Detroit.
Young Nacho
That'll be fire, though. Why wouldn't y' all give him 150, DJ, like, where's the beef?
Bishop B
3, 150. Did you see four years? You see what we pay everybody else on our team? Aaron Neesmith is a guy's gift, bro. We pay him about 15 a year.
Kurt Thomas
11.
DJ Wells
11? Yeah.
Bishop B
Nimhard is what, 18? 19. And they're both locked in for the next three years.
Kurt Thomas
Two.
Bishop B
No, his contract kicks in next year. Okay? But he signed a. He signed a very team friendly deal.
DJ Wells
I think it's like 16.
Bishop B
Yeah, it's very, very affordable. My Obadiah took, you know what I'm saying? Nice little cut to stay with the gang, bro. We can't pay you more than Tyrese or Pascal.
DJ Wells
You ain't paying me more than tyrese. Tyrese only 2,200.
Bishop B
Yeah, but 150 is tough, bro.
DJ Wells
He gonna get like 125, though.
Bishop B
He deserved it, though, on me. He deserved it. You put a banner up, bro. You've been the consummate professional. All the shit you had to Deal with and put smutty your name. When we had you and Sabonis together, knowing y' all didn't like each other, he deserved to get paid for sure. He a hundred mil. For sure.
Young Nacho
Been a great teammate, great locker room guy.
Bishop B
Yeah, bro. Held down the franchise.
Young Nacho
Y' all had him in trade rumors every day.
Bishop B
Literally, bro. I remember going into that practice, like, I with Miles. That's when I really started tapping in with my. I said, bro, they put you on a train block every year, bro, and it's not your fault.
Young Nacho
Like, come on, man. Now what y' all want me to do now, man?
Bishop B
My Nate Bjorkman said, yeah, we don't really need Miles Turner. That's just. Hey, yeah, get this. This out of here. He got fired in year one. He started wilding, bro.
DJ Wells
Yeah, I remember y' all did have that coach.
Bishop B
Yeah, Nate Bjork. And, bro, he everything up, bro. That's a raw reason why Vic got the slender. He got. People don't know that, bro. They was dealing with a psychopath. Coach Bill left. He up everything in the organization, bro.
DJ Wells
Billy Bo.
Bishop B
Yeah, bro.
DJ Wells
That was. That's my. He called me the other day.
Bishop B
I can't talk about that on camera, but that's the reason why Bill Bano left, bro. Cause Bjorkin was on some.
DJ Wells
Bill Bano. He called me one of the best.
Bishop B
Defensive coaches in the NBA, bro. His assistant bro it up.
DJ Wells
Oh, no, not Billy. Hold on. You talking about Dan Burke?
Bishop B
Burke was gone.
DJ Wells
Yeah, that's my. Both of them.
Bishop B
But Bill Mayo left, too.
DJ Wells
He's a crazy, crazy.
Bishop B
He's solid. I with him, bro.
DJ Wells
He's in Miami.
Bishop B
Wow.
DJ Wells
Shout out to Billy Beto, man. Hey, he's a wild boy, man. He be said to be put clips on the podcast, like, look at this. Hey, use a wild boy, boy.
Bishop B
I know we got here, but you see that the T spar came straight from up top. Dolan said, no, no, no. Not Leon. Watch out. Yeah, the out of here.
DJ Wells
Damn. That was all Dolan.
Bishop B
Yeah, that was. That was a do call. They said. Dolan said, I'm not talking to nobody about this because you know you can't fire a coach without your.
DJ Wells
Yeah, yeah.
Bishop B
He. The dog said, no.
DJ Wells
Damn. I heard the other players, like, some of the players said they weren't gonna play for him, and that's crazy, bro. Like, bro, he didn't play job a thousand minutes, bro. I've never complained about being in the game.
Young Nacho
At least you gonna get paid. Fucking with Tibbs.
DJ Wells
That's what I'LL give you a chance. Wow. Man, I wish I would have caught Tibbs when I was like, 26, 27.
Young Nacho
Yeah, well, should have been different.
DJ Wells
Well, you gonna play 40 minutes a game. You gonna get some stats for it.
Bishop B
Yeah, if you look at the tree of contracts paid from Tibbs, bro, I better not see no smut on Tibbs name, bro.
DJ Wells
Oh, you can't say nothing wrong Tibbs with me. Tibbs changed my life.
Young Nacho
Nah, facts. But I see, though, why, you know, some players just can't adapt to that, though, bro. But y' all was saying you need to switch it up. You know what I mean? So they probably feel like how y' all felt about it.
DJ Wells
Tibbs just needed an offensive coordinator, that's all.
Bishop B
Come be a defensive coordinator for us, bro.
DJ Wells
We love you all.
Bishop B
I need you and Rick Carlisle, bro. Y' all. Y' all will create happiness.
Young Nacho
I don't see. I don't see him sitting down, bro.
DJ Wells
You got 30 men coming to you, man. Relax, man. I'm gonna call you. He'll be like, jeff, you guy talking about me on that show.
Bishop B
I with tears, man. They were just like, we don't want Jayla bros to get her. Like, he wrote. That's a lot of people say. It's like, we don't want him to run JB into the ground. I'm like, man, which I want, man. I think they're gonna keep OG Rick on the staff, man. Yeah, I've been seeing a lot room. They said they might just say he had a too big of a voice in the locker room. I'm like, yeah, he's the best player, Daddy. He's supposed to have poppy.
DJ Wells
That's interesting. I don't know. I don't. You know, they're my guys, so.
Bishop B
Oh, yeah, I know you're gonna Mob ties for sure.
DJ Wells
Yeah, I ain't gonna do that, but I hope he's still around. I ain't never try to get nobody.
Bishop B
I love to see him on the store.
Young Nacho
If he ain't go somewhere immediately.
Bishop B
And take Jayla with you, keep him. Yeah, y' all gonna play. All right now, Jalen, go ahead.
Young Nacho
Pull your ring fire to coach your son, though.
DJ Wells
Yes, bro.
Young Nacho
In the NBA. I. I hate Daddy ball, like, with just amateur shit, but like, in the NBA. So watch your son put on a performance like that every day.
DJ Wells
I gotta. We gotta interview Rick. I'm gonna wait. I'm gonna wait till all this die down. I'm gonna call Rick and just be like, we need to talk.
Young Nacho
Yeah, I had to Talk to him about that video, too.
Bishop B
Oh, yeah, yeah.
Young Nacho
We have to talk about the video.
Bishop B
We need OG on show. Hey, C.J. miles sign a message. Tap in Brody. You know what time it is we gonna see this week?
DJ Wells
Yeah, he texting me me tell me he was gonna come on the show he put up.
Bishop B
I mean, he hot ass on the Twitter streets. Also, I was in spaces with Joe today, shout out to my dog Budding. He said he ready to be here. He said he been. He been in the gym, you know what I'm saying? He ain't smoking no more. He said he ready, you know what I'm saying, for this ones.
DJ Wells
What's up?
Young Nacho
He trying to be sober now. He smoked a lot of. It's probably still in him. Told you what? Don't leave. I told you what. Don't leave you. I'm good. I'm good.
DJ Wells
This to be him.
Bishop B
Button Ones is on the way for sure, man. That's hilarious.
Young Nacho
I'm gonna kick his ass, bro. I can't wait till we go to New York so we can set that up, though.
DJ Wells
Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think we can set up ones for him.
Kurt Thomas
What's we trying to do?
Bishop B
Oh, yeah.
Kurt Thomas
Jadakiss want to work out, too.
Bishop B
Oh, yeah. Jada Kiss said he want to put y' all through the workout.
DJ Wells
Who?
Kurt Thomas
Jadakiss.
Young Nacho
Okay.
DJ Wells
He'd be doing minutes.
Young Nacho
I'm not doing it. I'm not doing that. We do everything else, though.
Kurt Thomas
You can do it. Most of them. You've been working out for four months now.
Young Nacho
I know I can do it a little bit, but. Nah, nah, I'll work out with him.
Bishop B
That'd be far for sure. All right, man. Be here before we get out of here. Tell the people they can grab some.
Young Nacho
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Bishop B
Tap in, man, one time for boost Mobile. We appreciate y' all. Y' all know the vibes, man. 25. First three months is how many. Be here.
Young Nacho
15, baby.
Bishop B
Tab in nationwide. 5G shout to boost Mobile. Man, we appreciate y' all. We'll be back next time. Club 5:20 the volume.
DJ Wells
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Club 520 Podcast - Episode Summary: "Club 520 - Jeff Teague on DISRESPECTFUL Thunder-Pacers NBA Finals coverage, Dolan FIRING Thibodeau"
Release Date: June 9, 2025
The episode kicks off with DJ Wells introducing the show alongside his co-hosts, Bishop B and Young Nacho. The hosts engage in light-hearted conversation about a viral video featuring a doppelganger in a club, reflecting on the humorous side of social media interactions.
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They segue into sharing personal experiences related to traveling and the strains of being on the road, highlighting the camaraderie and mutual understanding among the hosts.
The discussion shifts to the state of rap music, focusing on the longevity and adaptability of artists. The hosts compare legendary figures like Lil Wayne to contemporary artists, debating how music evolves with time.
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The hosts reflect on how artists like Jay-Z have successfully aged their music, contrasting this with Lil Wayne’s perceived stagnation.
Continuing the music discussion, the hosts delve into the challenges artists face in maintaining relevance. They analyze tour performances, highlighting how artists like Jeezy manage to keep their shows fresh by focusing on classic hits.
Key Points:
They discuss the impact of legacy and catalog strength on an artist’s ability to tour successfully, underscoring the importance of connecting with long-time fans.
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The focus shifts to the NBA Finals featuring the Oklahoma City Thunder and the Indiana Pacers. The hosts critique the media coverage, describing it as lackluster and disconnected from the actual excitement of the games.
Key Points:
They express disappointment in the broadcasting quality, comparing it unfavorably to past Finals that featured iconic commentators and more engaging narratives.
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The discussion also touches on team dynamics, potential player trades, and the overall marketability of the teams involved.
The hosts analyze the broader implications of media portrayal on team popularity and fan engagement. They debate whether high-profile player movements, like potential trades of stars such as SGA or Luka, would significantly impact the league's viewership.
Key Points:
They discuss the importance of marquee players in maintaining the NBA’s global appeal and question whether the current Finals feature teams with the same star power.
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The conversation highlights concerns over ticket pricing, marketing strategies, and the need for the NBA to adapt to retain both hardcore and casual fans.
In a more personal segment, the hosts share anecdotes about their families, favorite relatives, and hypothetical scenarios about their futures. This section adds a relatable and humanizing layer to the conversation, showcasing the hosts' personalities beyond sports and music.
Key Points:
They humorously discuss preferences for funeral attire, legacy wishes, and their aspirations for longevity, blending serious topics with playful banter.
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The episode wraps up with shout-outs to sponsors and promotions for upcoming shows and merchandise. The hosts encourage listeners to engage with their community and stay tuned for future episodes.
Final Remarks:
Media Critique: The hosts express dissatisfaction with the current NBA Finals media coverage, finding it lacking in excitement and engagement compared to previous years.
Music Nostalgia: A significant portion of the discussion revolves around the evolution of rap music, the enduring legacy of classic albums like Lil Wayne’s Carter series, and the challenges contemporary artists face in maintaining relevance.
Sports and Community: The conversation underscores the importance of star players in sports leagues’ popularity and explores the dynamic between team performance and media portrayal.
Personal Connections: The hosts share personal stories and family dynamics, adding depth to their on-air personas and fostering a connection with listeners.
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This summary provides an overview of the key discussions and highlights from the Club 520 Podcast episode. For a complete experience, listeners are encouraged to tune into the full episode.