Club 520 - Joe Johnson, Roscoe Dash, Pour Minds, DJ Drama ATLANTA LIVE SHOW

Summary

Club 520 Podcast: Atlanta LIVE SHOW w/ Joe Johnson, Roscoe Dash, Pour Minds, DJ Drama

Date: October 27, 2025
Hosts: Jeff Teague, DJ Wells, Bishop B Henn
Guests: DJ Drama, Joe Johnson, Roscoe Dash, Pour Minds (Drea & Lex P)

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Episode Overview

This special live episode of Club 520 heads to Atlanta for a packed show with major guests: NBA legend Joe Johnson, Atlanta hitmaker Roscoe Dash, DJ Drama, and podcast-duo Pour Minds (Drea & Lex P). The iconic crew shares untold locker room stories, behind-the-scenes hip hop memories, and laugh-out-loud relationship debates, all with the raw and hilarious energy that’s made Club 520 a breakout sensation.

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Key Segments & Discussion Points

1. Pour Minds Take the Stage – Relationship Hot Takes & Hilarious Debates

(04:00 – 21:00)

• Pour or Pass? Game
  The hosts start by throwing wild dating scenarios at Pour Minds (Drea & Lex P). The crowd joins in for takes on drinks, first-date restaurants, cohabiting exes and much more.

  • E&J vs Taylor Port: Lex P: “Taylor Port! Of course. ‘Cause we ladies, we gonna drink a little wine.” (04:23)
  • Would You Date a Guy Who Still Lives with His Baby Mama?
    Drea: “If I was a baby mama and my baby daddy still live with me, we still fucking.” (06:05)
  • ‘Teague Time’ Explained:
    DJ Drama: “He gonna show up to your house with a jersey, no draws.” (07:19)
    Lex P: “Winnie the Pooh style? Pour.” (07:44)
  • If First Date Is at Texas Roadhouse:
    Lex P: “Is there an option for that to be pre-dinner? ’Cause I would get the rolls and then we can go to dinner for real.” (09:45)

• Biggest ‘Ick’ in a Man
  Drea: “I hate men that be super braggy when you first meet them... if you really who you say you are, just show up and show me…” (10:54)

• What’s a Cheap Date?
  Lex P: “$100 for two people is cheap going out to eat. Do you agree?” (12:50)
  Drea: “That’s just for food, we’re gonna want to drink! Two or three drinks, an appetizer, and our meal—we’re spending $100.”

• On Men with Hair Units and Secrets
  Drea (on dating guys with ‘units’): “Why wouldn’t you tell me that you wear a piece? … You could’ve told me that upfront.” (13:43–15:28)

Memorable Quote:
Lex P: “If we having sex and you keep your socks on? You don’t love me for real—you don’t trust me.” (18:02)

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2. Behind Pour Minds: Origins of Their Friendship

(15:53 – 16:31)

• How They Met:
  Drea: “We met working at the strip club together—bartending. Then we started a YouTube channel. And then we ended up moving to Atlanta and went crazy.” (16:08)
• Wildest Podcast Guest?
  Lex P: “Ain’t nobody wilder than us! But T-Pain was probably one—we had to edit out one of his stories...” (16:40)
  “Slim Thug was wild too... We did a counter—he asked for some in like 45 songs!” (17:24)

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3. NBA & ATL Stories with Joe Johnson & Jeff Teague

(37:18 – 66:53)

• Joe Johnson’s First Impression of Jeff Teague:
  “In 18 years playing in the NBA, I never went to any of these (draft) press conferences. But when T got drafted, I went... I was a fan since day one.” (38:35)

• Growing with the Hawks:
  “When I got here, we only won 29 the first year. By the time Jeff got here, we’d already been through the rough part...” (42:05)

• Locker Room & Clubbing Stories:
  “The whole team would go out. Shoutout to Joe—he didn’t haze me... But he’d invite me to the club.” (43:09)

• NBA Rookie Hazing:
  Joe: “I hated that shit when I was a rookie. You have to do all the chores, get the donuts. So I never messed with Jeff about it.” (44:20)

• Legendary Team Chemistry
  Joe and Jeff reflect that their Hawks team—Al Horford, Josh Smith, Bibby, Marvin, Jamal Crawford—would “win a championship in today’s NBA” (64:20), only to get roasted by co-hosts for the bold claim.

  • Co-host: “A championship is crazy. Y’all ain’t beating that OKC team.” (65:05)

• On Steve Nash’s MVP and the 2005 Phoenix Suns:
  Joe: “Nash could’ve averaged 25 easy, but he settled for 16 and 13 assists. And that’s why he won MVP—we were the best team in the league.” (68:17)

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4. Roscoe Dash Reflects on Atlanta’s Culture and His Legacy

(71:00 – 77:45)

• Influence on Style:
  “You made this dude get a Mohawk, bro. That’s influence.” (71:35)
• How ‘No Hands’ Came Together:
  “I looked at Waka, I said, bro, the ladies love you, so let’s make a song for them... While they (Wale) came in and put a verse on it, and the rest was history.” (77:18)
  • “I knew it immediately—that was a hit.” (77:41)
• Atlanta’s Camaraderie:
  “Atlanta’s always been a place of camaraderie; people want to come and be a part of it. Now that I’m the bridge, I’m just going to keep putting in what needs to be there.” (74:13)

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5. DJ Drama: Mixtape King & Atlanta’s Soundtrack

(79:24 – 105:36)

• Favorite Mixtapes & Hidden Gems:
  DJ Drama: “Crenshaw (with Nipsey), The Burrprint, In My Zone with Chris Brown, the movie with Gucci Mane… too many to count.” (80:02–80:47)
  “With Trap or Die and Dedication, I feel like I found my personality… those tapes really changed my life.” (91:19)
• Mixtape Stories – Almost Projects:
  “Travis Scott’s Days After Rodeo was gonna be a Gangsta Grillz… but Kanye told him no.” (93:34)
• DJing vs. Making Music:
  “Being on stage is like being on the court—performing… but in the studio, that’s where I can go in my zone and create for people to hear.” (98:55)
• Finding Uzi & Jack Harlow:
  “A lot of people didn’t believe in Uzi... We created the Generation Now formula for breaking artists—moved him to Atlanta, introduced him to everyone, got him on tour.” (95:54)
• Jeezy Orchestra Tour and Atlanta Pride:
  Drama on Jeezy's music: “There’s not a lot of albums in hip hop like Thug Motivation... 20 years later, still bang the way they bang. You could put that on in the club right now.” (100:36)
• Making Mixtapes vs Albums:
  “It’s definitely different… with mixtapes it’s usually me and one artist in the zone—albums are about collaborations, clearances, business…” (104:04)

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Notable Quotes & Laugh-Out-Loud Moments

• Lex P (on dating men with socks on during sex):
  “If we having sex and you keep your socks on? You don’t love me – I need to see you butt, booty hole, ass naked.” (19:09)
• Jeff Teague on rookie nerves in the NBA:
  “You got to lead grown-ass men who’ve been in the league for 5, 10, 12 years. You don’t come in with the right demeanor, you can get lost.” (39:32)
• Joe Johnson on first Hawks years:
  “We go in the arena, it’s like three, four hundred people there. It did not feel like the NBA.” (42:32)
• Roscoe Dash on “No Hands”:
  “I knew it immediately… that was a hit.” (77:41)
• DJ Drama on Atlanta music culture:
  “Atlanta is just what I listen to… the city adopted me.” (91:03)
  “Gangsta Grillz was very pivotal in helping Southern hip hop reach the masses.” (92:28)
• DJ Drama on breaking new talent:
  “People didn’t see the vision for Uzi at first… but the clubs and the city, that’s how we broke him.” (95:54)

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Episode Flow & Tonal Highlights

• Energy & Authenticity: The crowd is engaged throughout; hosts and guests banter freely, pulling no punches. There’s an effortless mix of sports, hip hop, and dating culture.
• Unfiltered Opinions: Drea & Lex P keep it real about relationship standards, dating pitfalls, and men’s insecurities—with both humor and insight.
• Atlanta Love Letter: The episode is a celebration of Black culture, Atlanta nightlife, and the local legends who shaped both basketball and music.

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Must-Listen Timestamps

• Pour Minds’ “Pour or Pass?” Relationship Game: 04:00–21:00
• Joe Johnson & Jeff Teague Reflect on the Hawks: 37:18–66:53
• Roscoe Dash on “No Hands” & Atlanta Legacy: 77:18–78:31
• DJ Drama on Mixtapes, Uzi, & Atlanta’s Sound: 79:24–105:36

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Summary

This Atlanta LIVE show blends candid sports storytelling, hip hop nostalgia, and straight-up relationship comedy into a rowdy, unmissable podcast event. Pour Minds bring heat on relationship “icks” and first dates; Joe Johnson & Jeff Teague swap NBA war stories and debate basketball eras; Roscoe Dash tells the real story behind “No Hands”; and DJ Drama takes fans behind the curtain of mixtape history and Atlanta’s continued dominance in music. Energy stays high, guests are unfiltered, and Atlanta’s culture is front and center.

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For fans of basketball, rap, and outrageous debates on life and love—this is quintessential Club 520.

Transcript

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[DJ Drama]

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[Kal Penn]

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[Greg Rosenthal]

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[DJ Drama]

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[DJ Drama]

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[Greg Rosenthal]

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[DJ Drama (continued) / Gucci Mane]

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[DJ Drama]

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[Greg Rosenthal]

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[DJ Drama]

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[Co-host / Host]

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[DJ Drama]

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[Co-host / Host]

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[DJ Drama]

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[Co-host / Host]

Ain't no way they pulling up Boost Mobile.

[DJ Drama (continued) / Gucci Mane]

Pulling.

[Co-host / Host]

Setting up my service on my new iPhone 7 at the crib.

[DJ Drama]

You ain't gotta leave, man. Come on, off the couch with it. Listen, doorstep sir. C code, you know what I'm saying? When you get a new phone, the worst part is transferring your contacts, your pictures and messages. All that. You ain't even got do all that. They gonna handle that for you. Just tap in. Listen, man, the most powerful iPhone ever, iPhone 17. Boost Mobile got you in. They gotta leave the crib. They gonna bring your phone, transfer it for you. Man, what's the. What's the excuse not to get it?

[Co-host / Host]

Be hen Ain't no excuses, Especially they pulling up to your door. Would I never know other providers ever did that.

[DJ Drama]

Come on, man. Doorstep service.

[Co-host / Host]

Wow, that's definitely new, man. Damn, it's tight.

[DJ Drama]

Yeah. Shout out to Boost Mobile.

[Co-host / Host]

Man, I forgot where we at. We got a pod.

[DJ Drama]

All right, man. I think the vibes are right now. Ladies, how y' all doing tonight? Man, make some noise for four miles in the building. One more time. God dam.

[Kal Penn]

Hey, y'.

[DJ Drama (continued) / Gucci Mane]

All.

[DJ Drama]

First and foremost, we appreciate y' all pulling up. How y' all doing, man? Y' all going crazy right now. How's life?

[Greg Rosenthal]

Good. I done worked up a little. Sweet. Y' all know I got a bad knee, bitch.

[DJ Drama]

All right, man, we gonna have some fun to kick it off with the show. We gonna play pour or Pass. I'm gonna see how y' all feeling about the questions. You let me know if you pouring it or if you passing it. First things first for you, me and Behen. Uh, oh, y' all, two favorite drinks. Pour, Pass, E and J. Or Taylor Port.

[Greg Rosenthal]

Taylor Port. Taylor Port. Of course. Cause we ladies, we gonna Drink a little wine.

[Co-host / Host]

Okay. Taylor Port is a wino drink.

[Greg Rosenthal]

They both wino drinks, but out of the two, I'm gonna choose Taylor Port. And also, that's our sponsor, Mr. Taylor Port.

[DJ Drama]

Respect. Pay the bills. No disrespect.

[Co-host / Host]

That's a wild sponsor.

[DJ Drama]

They must have heard your song. But which I don't know, is my boy, he's sponsored by enj. Freestyle.

[Greg Rosenthal]

Who got a Freestyle? I got it here now.

[Co-host / Host]

No, you gotta do it ain't available. It ain't a. Chill out, chill out. Let's move on. Moving along, moving along.

[DJ Drama]

Shout out to copyright man. We're gonna get the freestyle loaded up for y' all for sure. Next question. If you met a man, he's cool. The vibes is right. But he happened to just live with his baby mama. Is that poor or path pass.

[Greg Rosenthal]

He lived with his baby mama.

[DJ Drama]

They roommates, right? Now they just figure out.

[Greg Rosenthal]

No, because if they roommates, they let me know. He don't need to be trying to talk to me.

[Co-host / Host]

What if he about to move out, though?

[Greg Rosenthal]

What if what?

[Co-host / Host]

What if he about to move out?

[DJ Drama (continued) / Gucci Mane]

Maybe.

[Greg Rosenthal]

What's the hold up?

[Co-host / Host]

No, I'm saying maybe. Maybe they just broke up.

[Greg Rosenthal]

You should have moved out the next day.

[Co-host / Host]

I'll give you a scenario.

[Joe Johnson]

It.

[Co-host / Host]

And I. I know this happened all the time in Atlanta, so listen, it. Do a nigga break up with his girl, right? And then he's still living with her. All his shit still there, but his guys take him out. He meet Lex.

[DJ Drama]

Mm.

[Co-host / Host]

How you doing?

[DJ Drama]

Take me through that. Take me through that.

[Co-host / Host]

You know what I mean? It's fresh. You feeling him?

[Greg Rosenthal]

No. The reason I'm not. Because if I was a baby mama and my baby daddy still live with me, we still fucking.

[Co-host / Host]

We still not on the first day of the breakup. What if I'm really tired of your ass, though? What if I'm really tired? For real? A dude literally, like, what is his time limit to move out? Or it's just an automatic no.

[Greg Rosenthal]

Why would he not move out immediately?

[DJ Drama (continued) / Gucci Mane]

You knew.

[Co-host / Host]

We just. It's just fresh. I just told her I don't like.

[Greg Rosenthal]

Her no more today, okay? And so you should be out of there tomorrow.

[Co-host / Host]

Okay? Respect.

[Greg Rosenthal]

Unless. Unless y' all gotta split everything and that's why you need to stay.

[DJ Drama (continued) / Gucci Mane]

Okay.

[Co-host / Host]

What if I gotta stay till the lease is up, huh? What if it's three months left on the lease?

[Greg Rosenthal]

Then you could still move out. If it's only three months left, that ain't that long.

[Co-host / Host]

Okay? Respect.

[Greg Rosenthal]

Cause they'll help her with the rent and move out.

[Co-host / Host]

So y' all don't. They don't have no grace. Dj, what you got? You don't got no grace.

[DJ Drama]

Next question. Poor Pass. If he hit your line and say he going tee time tonight. Oh, Lord.

[Co-host / Host]

You say what?

[Greg Rosenthal]

Hold on, wait.

[DJ Drama]

If he going teague time tonight. Are y' all playing with me?

[Co-host / Host]

Tell him what it is.

[DJ Drama]

Oh, you don't know what teague time is? Uh, Take me through there. Take me through there.

[Greg Rosenthal]

What is that?

[DJ Drama]

Yo, he gonna show up to your house with a jersey. Listen, he gonna show up to your house with a jersey. No draws.

[Greg Rosenthal]

Jersey on, no draws. Winnie the Pooh song. Like, what are we talking about? With, like, nothing on the bottom. And who, you or me? The man or me?

[DJ Drama]

No, hell, I'm cool with a little.

[Greg Rosenthal]

Winnie the Pooh style. Poor.

[Co-host / Host]

You don't want no nigga walking around your house with his T shirt and no draws.

[Greg Rosenthal]

I ain't mad at it. Didn't Usher say that on their song Trading Places? I ain't mad at that.

[Co-host / Host]

She out of pocket.

[DJ Drama]

She's crazy. Oh, we about to have some fun tonight. Where Barbie at, man? We need some more drinks up here.

[Greg Rosenthal]

Yeah. What? Oh, that's why.

[Co-host / Host]

Damn, B. Got love in the head.

[Greg Rosenthal]

What's up, Atlanta?

[Co-host / Host]

Oh, hell, I'll see.

[DJ Drama]

Yeah, okay.

[Greg Rosenthal]

Let me do my job. Hold on, hold on.

[DJ Drama]

What we got today, Tea time?

[Greg Rosenthal]

Oh, we ain't got no panties on. Ain't got no panties on. We ain't got no panties on on the dance floor.

[DJ Drama]

My damn drink.

[Greg Rosenthal]

I can carry this tray. I can carry it in, squirt.

[DJ Drama]

Girl, get my drink.

[Greg Rosenthal]

Cuz, you ain't got nothing on. For real.

[Co-host / Host]

Y silly, man, look at.

[DJ Drama]

She about to drop the play. We in the wrong city if you saying that. Okay, we got you.

[Co-host / Host]

Hey, now, that's talent, that is. Go let it dry. It's okay.

[DJ Drama]

Want me to hold your mic? Man, I ain't reaching in there, brother. That's myself.

[Co-host / Host]

That's how they get into the game.

[DJ Drama]

We got HR on this. We are a business.

[Co-host / Host]

That's how they get into them games. Do motherfucker dolls between they legs.

[Greg Rosenthal]

I didn't bring B here no drink. He got a whole bottle over here.

[Co-host / Host]

Okay? Respect.

[Greg Rosenthal]

With his glasses on, he already faded. He been cutting up.

[DJ Drama]

All right. While Barbie's up here, we gonna have some fun. We gonna ask you this, too. Pour or pass. If a man hits you up, he say he wanna take you out to eat. He ain't gonna tell you where y' all Going. And when you get to the destination, you find out it's Texas roadhouse. Don't do that. Hey, nigga, don't do that.

[Co-host / Host]

Don't answer the fucking question.

[DJ Drama]

No, nigga, don't do that. Let all lad pour or pass. Are y' all something.

[Greg Rosenthal]

The roll's kind of good. You p me up?

[Joe Johnson]

Me up.

[Greg Rosenthal]

Is there an option for that to be pre dinner? Cuz I would get the rolls and then we can go to dinner for real.

[Co-host / Host]

So. So basically what y saying?

[Greg Rosenthal]

Pre dinner? Pre dinner is crazy.

[DJ Drama]

We f. So we supposed to go somewhere else after Texas roll house. That's the pregame.

[Greg Rosenthal]

We can take a few shots, get some rolls, fill ourselves up on that bread.

[DJ Drama]

If you get shots at Texas row house, the police are on the way.

[Greg Rosenthal]

Where you going afterwards?

[DJ Drama]

She said a pre eat.

[Greg Rosenthal]

Ooh, where we going afterwards? This is your first date? This is your first date. It's the first date. She gonna go to Lil Alley, Little Alley, or Marcy. But me, I'm at Raw. Bring me the ribeye. I'm ready to eat. Yeah, it's gonna be tough as hell.

[DJ Drama]

Yeah.

[Greg Rosenthal]

Texas roadhouse steak. It ain't gonna be finished.

[DJ Drama]

Oh, Lord.

[Greg Rosenthal]

They sound like good. Ask Lex when the last. When the last time you ate at Texas. Now you in my business. Exactly.

[DJ Drama]

She gonna find dining when she heard.

[Co-host / Host]

I got a question. What's your biggest ick in a man? Oh, don't do that now.

[Greg Rosenthal]

I hate men that be super braggy when you first meet them.

[Co-host / Host]

Super bratty.

[Greg Rosenthal]

Yeah, just bragging. Bragging about what they got, Bragging what they did for other girls. Yeah, just show me. Do it. If you really who you say you are, just show up and tell we be lying. You saying what?

[DJ Drama]

We be lying. What the. Yeah, like a month in. That was Michael Kors, but it look good.

[Co-host / Host]

You talking about can a take y' all shopping on the first date?

[Greg Rosenthal]

Yeah, no, of course.

[Commercial Announcer]

Look.

[DJ Drama]

And do I do Lord?

[Co-host / Host]

Nah. Well, some girls that I asked, they said that's not like, respectful to take a woman out the gate to the mom. Because they said you're supposed to damn near quarter. I ain't doing that.

[DJ Drama]

I did that.

[Joe Johnson]

All right.

[Co-host / Host]

Barbie said it on my mama.

[Greg Rosenthal]

Never.

[DJ Drama]

Ever.

[Co-host / Host]

We talked about it.

[DJ Drama]

She ain't never living in Atlanta.

[Greg Rosenthal]

It's the pick me bitches that was up under our post. Like, no. Texas roll house for our first date is good.

[Commercial Announcer]

I'll cook for you.

[Greg Rosenthal]

Money on me. I mean, I feel like that's fine if it's within that man's Budget. I do. I feel like that's fine. Like him taking his girl to Texas Roll House, if that's what I'm clap for. That all clapping. That ain't her, man. Yeah, I didn't say that was my nigga, though. But okay, little.

[DJ Drama]

Stop clapping real quick.

[Greg Rosenthal]

That's his budget, and that's the man that you chose to date, and that's what he can afford to do then, you know, cool. But I'm not.

[DJ Drama]

Why is she talking to Barbie like this? She like the you can afford to date.

[Greg Rosenthal]

They was on my ass about it because I said I didn't want to go to Texas Row House. She said, yeah, what was the price.

[Co-host / Host]

For a cheap date? What do we say?

[Greg Rosenthal]

Hey, listen, I said 100 for two people is cheap. Going out to eat. Do you agree?

[DJ Drama]

Yeah.

[Greg Rosenthal]

Yeah. What the hell?

[Co-host / Host]

No.

[Greg Rosenthal]

And you probably spent $150 on this ticket. I can't stand, nigga. I absolutely feel. Yeah. And I feel like that is cheap because that's just the food. We gonna want to drink. Exactly. By the time we drink, two or three drinks, an appetizer, and our meal, we're spending $100. Yeah, 100. I agree. And I said, me and my girls, we spend that all the time. So the man's like, oh, no, da.

[DJ Drama]

Da, da, da da.

[Commercial Announcer]

Then don't spend it.

[Greg Rosenthal]

I'm gonna go with it. I'm an alcoholic. $100 is my drinks alone, bitch.

[Kal Penn]

Right?

[DJ Drama]

Let's bring it back in. Let's bring it back in. Shout there.

[Greg Rosenthal]

They moing, y'.

[DJ Drama]

All.

[Greg Rosenthal]

They drug me to hell on the Internet.

[DJ Drama]

One mic, one mic, one M a girl.

[Greg Rosenthal]

They be like that in our.

[DJ Drama]

All right. Poor pass. The man is perfect. Y' all have a good time.

[Co-host / Host]

Uhoh.

[DJ Drama]

Y' all go swimming one time, you find out he got a unit.

[Greg Rosenthal]

He got a unit.

[DJ Drama]

Yeah.

[Greg Rosenthal]

I ain't mad at that, cuz. I do too.

[Co-host / Host]

See a room. See a room.

[Greg Rosenthal]

You know?

[DJ Drama (continued) / Gucci Mane]

Uh.

[DJ Drama]

Oh.

[Greg Rosenthal]

I would only be upset because why you ain't tell me, boo?

[DJ Drama]

I don't think they're telling you that.

[Greg Rosenthal]

Why I gotta find out? Cause it's floating in the pool. Like, you could have told me that up front, and I still probably would have dated you. But, like, it's weird that you wouldn't tell me and then I'm finding out because it floated off.

[Co-host / Host]

You are in your space. I don't know about floating off. Some of them. Some. Somebody got some good units out here.

[Greg Rosenthal]

And some men look sexy bald, like I don't know what's with men and, like, not wanting to just embrace the bald.

[Co-host / Host]

A man's biggest insecurity is his hair. So if the got the. I'mma ask you this. So if a got the unit on, right?

[Greg Rosenthal]

Uhhuh.

[Co-host / Host]

Y' all six months in. It's time for him to get a new one.

[Greg Rosenthal]

That delays.

[Joe Johnson]

Hold on.

[Co-host / Host]

That get the lifting in the back.

[Greg Rosenthal]

It's bald.

[Co-host / Host]

But you already six months in. You really like him. You done told baby girl about him. You locked in. Is that a deal breaker?

[Greg Rosenthal]

We six months in, and I'm just now finding out he got a unit.

[Co-host / Host]

But you. You damn near love this, y'.

[Joe Johnson]

All.

[Co-host / Host]

He damn near the little spoon.

[Greg Rosenthal]

I'm just gonna let him know gently. Babe, I think it's time for you. Well, first of all, I'm gonna be like, are you wearing a unique. Come here. I just. I don't know. Like, that might be grounds for me to stop talking to him. Cause you dishonest, lying ass nigga.

[Joe Johnson]

But you never.

[Co-host / Host]

How is he dishonest? Y' all never talked about it.

[Greg Rosenthal]

Exactly. You lied about omission.

[Co-host / Host]

No, he didn't lie, though. That's just his hairstyle. That's just his hairstyle.

[Greg Rosenthal]

But why wouldn't you tell me that you wear a piece?

[Co-host / Host]

Because, I mean, it wasn't time to tell you yet. I didn't think it was a big thing. You like me for me?

[Greg Rosenthal]

You gonna wanna know if I. Exactly.

[Co-host / Host]

Oh, no, I'm natural, baby. This is. I know. That's. Yeah, this is natural.

[Greg Rosenthal]

Let us tug on it. Let's see.

[Co-host / Host]

You can rock this.

[Greg Rosenthal]

Feed them waves. Waves don't swim so they hate on him.

[DJ Drama]

Oh, man. Y' all went crazy for poor passing. Make some noise for Barbie, man. Starting trouble in the cr.

[DJ Drama (continued) / Gucci Mane]

Y' all.

[DJ Drama]

Soon as she get on here. But we want to talk about y'. All. How did y' all meet? How did y' all start pon.

[Greg Rosenthal]

We met working at the strip club together. We wasn't dancing, though. We wasn't dancing.

[Co-host / Host]

I'm about to ask what y names was.

[Greg Rosenthal]

No, we was bartenders. We worked working behind. I mean, we met working behind a bar together at a strip club in Houston. We became really cool. I moved to Atlanta a year after we met. We kept in touch the whole time. And then a year after I moved here, I had convinced her to move here. And then we ended up starting a YouTube channel, and that's what happened.

[DJ Drama]

Been going crazy ever since. Y' all have a lot of stuff going on in your pod. I wanna ask A couple questions. What's the wildest guest y' all had on your show? Cause y' all done had some people on that motherfucking show.

[Greg Rosenthal]

I don't know. Cause sometimes I be feeling like ain't nobody wilder than us. I know, I do feel like we wilder than the guests. But you know what? I think the person that came and, like, really turned up with us was probably T Pain. T Pain. Like, we got really lit and it was like a story. Remember the story he told about a certain. We're not gonna say the name. Yeah, but we literally had to edit it out because it was like, really, it was.

[DJ Drama]

What was the story?

[Greg Rosenthal]

Honestly, I don't remember. I don't remember the story. If we being real, they like, you lying.

[Co-host / Host]

There's some lying ass niggas over here.

[DJ Drama]

Be nice, be nice.

[Greg Rosenthal]

I think that was probably like, one of our guests. We were like, okay. And Slim Thug, too. Oh, yeah. That was a crazy swim. Thug was like. He was a wild guest.

[Co-host / Host]

Yeah, he was.

[Greg Rosenthal]

I mean, and it was even more crazy, cuz it's like we knew him, we know him in real life. So it's like, why are you cutting up like these on the couch? He asked that every five seconds. Like, why y a give me none? Like why y' all ain't give me none? We did a counter. He actually asked like 45 songs. Yeah, it was a counter.

[DJ Drama]

It was a counter. Now, see, great question. What was.

[Greg Rosenthal]

He's like, you know our brother.

[DJ Drama]

Now this question, this question for Lex P. You got a theory about niggas in socks?

[Roscoe Dash]

I do.

[DJ Drama]

In the bedroom.

[Greg Rosenthal]

Oh, yes.

[DJ Drama]

Please elaborate for our crowd here.

[Greg Rosenthal]

I feel I don't. You talking about when. I'm talking about when they have their socks on. Yeah, yeah. Like, I feel like if we having sex and you keep your socks on. You don't love me. For real. You don't trust me. You ain't my man. Like, if a nigga is ladies. I know it's not a lot of ladies in here. If the nigga you with right now, you ain't never seen his feet. That nigga do not fuck with you. Or he just got a black.

[Co-host / Host]

That's not true.

[Greg Rosenthal]

Or he got a black toenail. Cause n feet be ugly. Or he got a black toenail.

[DJ Drama]

His feet be my toenail. Black as fuck.

[Greg Rosenthal]

That's what I'm saying.

[Co-host / Host]

He might be insecure about his feet, though.

[Greg Rosenthal]

I always look, he hitting it from the back. I need to stop.

[Co-host / Host]

Check it off A might need it for that grip, though. Might need it for. Especially what if a hitting you on this carpet? No hitting you on this carpet right here. This old lady carpet.

[Greg Rosenthal]

He might even. I do not trust people that don't take their socks off.

[DJ Drama]

Hey, be here. Them sky's on socks. He curled up.

[Co-host / Host]

Please slide this nigga slipping out of that motherfucker. Trying to hold on. She trying to throw that back.

[Greg Rosenthal]

I feel like socks do take away from the intimacy, though. I need to see you butt, booty hole. Ass naked. Yeah, we need to be naked. I want to see everything. How would y' all feel if you were having sex with a woman and she had her socks on?

[Co-host / Host]

I'm cool with that.

[DJ Drama]

I don't give a. Every time.

[Co-host / Host]

Every. No, every time.

[Greg Rosenthal]

Every time you. Her. She got her socks on, and you like, babe, you can take those off.

[Co-host / Host]

No, it's not. It's not really about the. I mean, like, if we in the shower, fresh out the shower and on that. But damn, if we. If we fresh out the club. I'm just taking my pants off of this. It's game time.

[Greg Rosenthal]

See, see, you don't with that.

[DJ Drama]

You don't with that hoe.

[Greg Rosenthal]

Yeah, I do.

[Co-host / Host]

I'm saying, though, like, I don't think you should judge, man. Cause he want to keep his socks on, though. That's kind of crazy. That don't mean he don't love you.

[Greg Rosenthal]

But I want to see the real you. I need to see them feet.

[Co-host / Host]

You might have said we might take a shower together. And you see him.

[Joe Johnson]

Y' all not.

[Co-host / Host]

Y' all don't. Y' all not that big on no feet.

[Greg Rosenthal]

I am. No, she is.

[Co-host / Host]

You just said you'll let a hit you with a jersey on. You ain't worried about socks.

[Greg Rosenthal]

I absolutely would. Why would I not? If that's what make him come hit him. But I need to know that jersey, though.

[Co-host / Host]

Respect.

[DJ Drama]

Oh, man. Y', all. That said a hardwood classic.

[Greg Rosenthal]

And you know, that's. Once he get comfortable once he at my house all the time. You know, he can walk around with his T shirt on.

[Co-host / Host]

You out of.

[Greg Rosenthal]

Not his T shirt and his panties on.

[Co-host / Host]

No, for sure.

[Greg Rosenthal]

No panties.

[Co-host / Host]

That might swing the other side if you just casually walking around the house of the T shirt with no drawers on you the other way.

[DJ Drama]

Out of pocket.

[Co-host / Host]

I. I want to ask, like, what's your beef with my uncle, though?

[Greg Rosenthal]

What's your. Okay, we just talked about these backstage.

[Co-host / Host]

Like, Kim, that's my uncle. I don't like what you said. Like, what did I say? Like, you was like, I hate When? What'd you say about the song that you don't like at the brunch?

[Greg Rosenthal]

Well, that was the goopoly song.

[Co-host / Host]

Yeah, she don't like that song. But I can't stop loving you as a classic. Like, what's your beef?

[Greg Rosenthal]

You know, that's debatable. So we were talking about songs, like, very popular songs that everybody loves that we don't like.

[Roscoe Dash]

Right?

[Greg Rosenthal]

And I said, I hate it. Closer to my dream.

[DJ Drama (continued) / Gucci Mane]

Oh.

[Co-host / Host]

You know what I'm saying?

[Greg Rosenthal]

If I'm a hater, that positivity, it's time to be a hater. I don't want to hear that.

[Co-host / Host]

So what y' all want to hear at brunch when y' all go out?

[DJ Drama]

Not no Kim.

[Greg Rosenthal]

Yeah, I don't want to hear no Kim.

[DJ Drama (continued) / Gucci Mane]

Respect.

[DJ Drama]

To your mother.

[Greg Rosenthal]

To my dreams. At Branch, I'm trying to turn up. I want to hear a little Migos. I want to hear a little future.

[Co-host / Host]

So no arm a little gun.

[Greg Rosenthal]

You said wait.

[Co-host / Host]

No R B at Bro.

[Greg Rosenthal]

We can do R B at brunch, but I just feel like I can't stop.

[Co-host / Host]

Don't sing it. Like, shut up.

[Greg Rosenthal]

That's gonna kill the vibe. I ain't trying to hear that at brain. I want to hear right with Mama M. People like twerking by my pancakes because some people twerk. Win be phone.

[Co-host / Host]

So why the we gonna play Migos then?

[Greg Rosenthal]

I. I like R B.

[Co-host / Host]

Okay.

[Greg Rosenthal]

I do like R and B at brunch. I do.

[Co-host / Host]

But.

[Greg Rosenthal]

But let's turn it down, too. Sometimes the music be too loud. A good DJ gonna have a good balance of R and B and hip hop. But they not gonna play Kim.

[Roscoe Dash]

No.

[Co-host / Host]

Okay.

[DJ Drama]

Respect.

[Roscoe Dash]

Respect.

[DJ Drama]

All right, I wanna ask y' all some questions. Would you rather. Would you rather date an athlete or a musician?

[Greg Rosenthal]

Neither.

[DJ Drama]

Yeah, neither. You gotta pick one.

[Greg Rosenthal]

Oh, my God.

[DJ Drama]

Well, I would pick the athlete.

[Greg Rosenthal]

I would pick an athlete.

[DJ Drama]

Athlete or pastor?

[Greg Rosenthal]

Athlete or pastor? Because I want to still be able to listen to. We getting tonight in the car. You can't do that with the pastor. Yes, you can. Yes, you can.

[Co-host / Host]

Y' all taking the athlete over the man of God.

[Greg Rosenthal]

The athlete might be a man of God, too. He might be in his Bible and in that field.

[DJ Drama]

Okay. Athlete or photographer?

[Greg Rosenthal]

Athlete.

[DJ Drama (continued) / Gucci Mane]

Damn.

[Co-host / Host]

Shout out to all my niggas that take pictures.

[DJ Drama]

God damn. Freaky Mike. Freaky mount. Y' all is done.

[Co-host / Host]

Freaky Mike. You done, boy.

[DJ Drama]

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[DJ Drama]

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[DJ Drama]

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[DJ Drama]

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[Greg Rosenthal]

Trade War 2.0 is only accelerating the process of de dollarization, which in a way is jargon for people turning away from the dollar.

[DJ Drama]

That is where the big take from Bloomberg podcast comes in. To connect the dots.

[DJ Drama (continued) / Gucci Mane]

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[Kal Penn]

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[DJ Drama]

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[Co-host / Host]

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[Greg Rosenthal]

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[DJ Drama]

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[Co-host / Host]

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[Greg Rosenthal]

They are.

[DJ Drama]

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[DJ Drama (continued) / Gucci Mane]

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[Greg Rosenthal]

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[Kal Penn]

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[DJ Drama]

When you start weaponizing outer space, things.

[Roscoe Dash]

Can potentially go really wrong.

[Kal Penn]

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[DJ Drama]

Okay. Athletes or gym trainers?

[Co-host / Host]

Fitness trainers.

[Greg Rosenthal]

Cause I'm gonna say the same thing.

[DJ Drama]

He said they the same.

[Greg Rosenthal]

I don't like athletes, so I would say gym trainer. I don't care what the occupation is. Not the athletes.

[DJ Drama]

Damn, not the athletes.

[Co-host / Host]

I ain't no athlete. He is.

[Greg Rosenthal]

And he look a pingy too.

[DJ Drama]

I'm sorry. The fuck? That nigga played linebacker. Respect. Oh, that's right.

[Co-host / Host]

What's your beef? What's your beef with athletes, though? For real, what's your beef? Tell the truth, don't lie.

[Greg Rosenthal]

I'm not lying. I keep it real. I just is there. I have never seen a situation with in my close friend group of it being a good situation.

[DJ Drama]

I'll say that.

[Co-host / Host]

I'm cool.

[Greg Rosenthal]

He said what ain't me. I'm cool to learn about other people's mistakes. And I'm.

[Co-host / Host]

So. Would you prefer a rapper or athlete? A lit rapper.

[Greg Rosenthal]

The athlete.

[Co-host / Host]

Okay. Damn. What's wrong with the rapper? Why you look like that?

[Greg Rosenthal]

No, I would never want to date a rapper.

[Co-host / Host]

If he lit. If he on top of the world, that's fine.

[Greg Rosenthal]

But most rappers don't own themselves. But that's a topic for another time.

[Co-host / Host]

Respect. She a little too tapped in.

[Kal Penn]

Yeah.

[Greg Rosenthal]

If anything, I would want the that on the label.

[Co-host / Host]

Oh, okay. So that's why you can't take her to Texas Ro. She want the that own Texas roll house.

[Greg Rosenthal]

Exactly. Hey, you stupid.

[Co-host / Host]

I respect it.

[DJ Drama]

Another question. What's a crazy place to go on the first date? We talk about that. Smart girl. Sit your ass back, we might have fire her ass. What's the craziest place to go on the first date? DJ at back home. What you talking? The strip club or a funeral.

[Greg Rosenthal]

Hold on. You said what?

[DJ Drama]

What's a crazier first date? A strip club trip or a funeral?

[Greg Rosenthal]

A funeral. Strip club is fun for a first date.

[Co-host / Host]

Look, this nigga on.

[DJ Drama]

He said, if I tell y' all who made these questions, you won't believe.

[Co-host / Host]

Take me to a funeral. They got a pocket.

[Greg Rosenthal]

You want to take me to your Aunt Geraldine funeral on the first day out the game?

[DJ Drama]

I got your uncle, I got motion. You know the vibes.

[Greg Rosenthal]

Nah, that's wild. I will block you.

[DJ Drama]

No, I ain't been to a funeral.

[Co-host / Host]

What's the. What's the worst date? Both of y' all can answer this. What's the worst date y' all done been on? Say his name, too.

[Greg Rosenthal]

I. I ain't gonna say his name.

[DJ Drama]

That play for what team you play for? Oh, yeah.

[Co-host / Host]

Cause we heard about y'.

[DJ Drama (continued) / Gucci Mane]

All.

[Co-host / Host]

One of my. That. That. Who said one of y' all ain't.

[DJ Drama]

But nah.

[Co-host / Host]

And we ain't doing that. Cause they ain't here to defend.

[DJ Drama]

His behead was a football.

[Co-host / Host]

It was play for the Falcons.

[DJ Drama]

He said, yeah.

[Co-host / Host]

That said Lex ain't worth a quarter. But I didn't want to do that because.

[DJ Drama]

I'm about to have me one of them.

[Co-host / Host]

She's a potential breeder.

[DJ Drama]

Yeah.

[Co-host / Host]

She a potential breeder.

[Greg Rosenthal]

This has been fun, guys.

[DJ Drama]

He just knew they was going strong. Ain't that a bitch?

[Co-host / Host]

Yeah. So I'm up here to get y' all the floor to, you know, speak y' all truth.

[Greg Rosenthal]

Okay, so what's the worst date you've been on? Honestly, I just had a conversation about this last night. I just think it's a bad day, like you said, when n be name dropping and doing all that shit. But also, like, I can't stand. Like, I'm a big girl, right? Like, hold on, nigga. Slow your eyes.

[Co-host / Host]

He wasn't saying it like that. He wasn't saying it like that.

[Greg Rosenthal]

Whoever it was.

[DJ Drama]

Hold on.

[Greg Rosenthal]

He did say it like that. He said, yeah.

[DJ Drama]

Remember that video when the kid was like, go get the gun.

[Greg Rosenthal]

Damn.

[Joe Johnson]

Damn.

[Greg Rosenthal]

Not too much.

[Co-host / Host]

Nah, go ahead. Go ahead, Lex.

[Greg Rosenthal]

So it's like I'm 5, 8, 5, 9. So when I work here, I'm like 6, 1, 6, 2. Cause I like big heels, right? And like, I felt like he was just being weird. Cause he was a big ass nigga. He kept calling, like, regular Ubers. And we squeezed in the back of the Kia.

[DJ Drama (continued) / Gucci Mane]

Ooh, damn. The hunter.

[Greg Rosenthal]

He was like, yeah. Cause when you order a Uber Black, it ain't no difference. For real, it ain't. He said, yes, it is. Yes, it is.

[DJ Drama]

He ain't getting no Uber Black, man. He don't get Uber Black.

[Greg Rosenthal]

See, I wanted an Uber Black. And he was tall, too.

[Co-host / Host]

He sit in the back of his.

[Greg Rosenthal]

Prius and then don't try to hold people in a Prius is crazy. And then he was trying to order a XL and hoping that it was going to get upgraded. That pulled up in the minivan. You got me up.

[Co-host / Host]

At least you had a seat by yourself. You need a single seat.

[Greg Rosenthal]

No, but a minivan better than a priest. Yeah, but no.

[Co-host / Host]

Does. Does height matter, though, Lex, for you?

[Greg Rosenthal]

Honestly, it doesn't. It hold on. Be like, he probably five, three.

[DJ Drama]

Look down here.

[Greg Rosenthal]

Got. No, it doesn't matter, though. It's not like a deal breaker anymore.

[Co-host / Host]

All right, So a five, seven can talk to you.

[Greg Rosenthal]

Five seven. Okay. This is my thing with heels on. She like 5 11, though. No, I'm literally 6 foot 61 with my heels.

[Joe Johnson]

Damn.

[Greg Rosenthal]

So I feel like as long as. Like when I'm in flats, if we can see eye to eye, we good. Like, with my flats on and like. But I care more about the size. I don't like skinny niggas. I like niggas with that meat. A barbecue rib, you feel me? What meat we talking about?

[DJ Drama (continued) / Gucci Mane]

Both.

[Co-host / Host]

Respect.

[DJ Drama]

What are your two?

[Greg Rosenthal]

It's not a poor mind. Does height matter for me?

[Co-host / Host]

Yeah.

[Greg Rosenthal]

Yeah. I mean, I'm short. Like, I'm five two.

[DJ Drama]

Damn.

[Greg Rosenthal]

So I just feel like you just need to be taller than me. At least 5 7. I prefer because I feel like little be short. I mean, little be angry and mean.

[DJ Drama (continued) / Gucci Mane]

Damn.

[Co-host / Host]

Little be mean.

[Greg Rosenthal]

Well, little be mean. They be having a chip on their shoulders.

[Co-host / Host]

Cause they small.

[Greg Rosenthal]

Yeah. Cause they little. They already got that against them, so they be angry about it.

[Co-host / Host]

Shout out to all my five, seven out there, man.

[Kal Penn]

Respect.

[DJ Drama (continued) / Gucci Mane]

Saying that.

[Greg Rosenthal]

Because I've dated like, like shorter men, and then I've also dated tall men, and I just feel like short men be mean.

[DJ Drama (continued) / Gucci Mane]

Yeah.

[Co-host / Host]

Taller men got better attitudes.

[Greg Rosenthal]

They do. Yeah. They definitely got an attitude. Cause they be tall. They be happy. They know that they that, nigga. But also with tall men, they be making it they personality. Sometimes they do. They be like, yeah, nigga, I'm six eight, and you slew foot and not me, bitch. We ain't finna make no athletes. Ho ass, nigga. Fuck outta here. You ain't wrong. I'll be looking at them knees and they don't be having. I know when them calf muscles.

[Co-host / Host]

Yeah.

[Greg Rosenthal]

When they go in at the bottom.

[DJ Drama]

Yeah.

[Greg Rosenthal]

You ain't shit. You ain't wrong. And sometimes they be having a little cte.

[DJ Drama]

Yeah, CTE is crazy.

[Co-host / Host]

Hey, now y' all body shaming.

[Greg Rosenthal]

Oh, I'm a body shaming nigga?

[Co-host / Host]

That's crazy.

[Joe Johnson]

I don't give a fuck.

[DJ Drama]

Oh, man. Listen, we gotta get a full episode with y' all in. We appreciate y' all pulling up. Make some more noise of Cor mine one time for the one time.

[Co-host / Host]

Thank y'.

[DJ Drama (continued) / Gucci Mane]

All.

[DJ Drama]

Next P. Andrea, Nicole, Ladies, we appreciate Y', all, thank y' all so much.

[DJ Drama (continued) / Gucci Mane]

Y' all.

[DJ Drama]

Appreciate y' all 1,000%. Oh, man, listen. Long awaited episode. We got our guy in the building. Yes, sir. T, your og Yvette, man, talk to. I gotta tell the story immediately. As soon as you get your ass out here. Cause I'm surprised you showed up. But anyway, so, man, we came here to Atlanta maybe, what, about two or three months ago? Yes, sir.

[Co-host / Host]

Yes.

[DJ Drama]

You know this. Do a yoga, all type of origami. And yes. So we pull up. We like Joe. We in town. We came to see this literally spent.

[Joe Johnson]

We came to see Josh.

[Co-host / Host]

No, we came to see you. We spent thousands and thousands of thousands of dollars.

[Joe Johnson]

Listen, to get to.

[DJ Drama (continued) / Gucci Mane]

At.

[Co-host / Host]

Hold on, Joe, it's not your turn. We drove past that yoga studio. I said, t, let's shoot this. He ain't answering the phone. Let's blow this motherfucker up.

[DJ Drama]

Hey, why we knock on the door? We in. That ass in there, Joe.

[Co-host / Host]

It was a white lady in there with her legs behind her head and shit. Stupid ass out the way.

[DJ Drama]

And then this got the nerve to write me on Instagram. Y' all niggas funny as hell. What the.

[Co-host / Host]

Under all our posts. What's up, man? What's your reason, man, I can't go.

[Joe Johnson]

To the grocery store or nothing without somebody stopping and asking me, man, when you gonna go on the pod? I'm like, bro, it's gonna happen. Timing is everything, baby.

[DJ Drama]

Yeah, that's a fact.

[Joe Johnson]

Look, we here now.

[Co-host / Host]

Why y' all bringing up that old.

[Greg Rosenthal]

That bad juju, y', all, man, we.

[Joe Johnson]

Bringing bad juju around here, man.

[DJ Drama]

My fault, brother. For sure, man. Glad we could finally make it happen, man. I want to ask you, he always telling stories. What was the first time you met young Nacho? On the locker room. What was he like?

[Joe Johnson]

Man, you know, when you draft, when players get drafted, like, the very next day, they go to the team they got drafted to and they do their press conference and all that. In 18 years playing in the NBA, I never went to any of these press conferences. But T get drafted, I go to the press conference. You know, I had watched him in college, and I was a big fan, bro. So I got a chance to not only meet him, but meet his parents, meet his folks, and that was a cool, you know, cool little deal. So I was a fan since day one, man. I was a fan since day one.

[DJ Drama]

Appreciate that old head. I remember that day. Cause in college, I played point guard and shooting guard, and then they was like, yeah, he our Starting shooting guard. Nigga, I'm six one. Nigga, you six eight. I said, damn. My daddy says, you ain't gonna play, nigga. I said, ain't no way he don't play power forward. They was like, nah, he the two guard. I said, lord, it's over with. And I didn't play. He was right.

[Joe Johnson]

Now, chill. The point guard position, when you come into the NBA, especially for young guys, that's probably, you know, the hardest position to play. It's kind of equivalent to football. As a quarterback coming into the NFL, that shit hard, man. It takes a while. You gotta lead grown ass men who've been in the league for 5, 10, 12 years. And if you don't come in with the right demeanor, you know what I mean? You can get lost. So his opportunity came. It came. It didn't come at the time he wanted to. Cause at the time, you know, we were playing in the playoffs and.

[Kal Penn]

He.

[Joe Johnson]

Didn'T get to play to the second round. And D. Rose was the mvp.

[DJ Drama]

Hold on, nigga. Why you saying it like that? Nigga, I did my job, nigga.

[Co-host / Host]

He did his thing, bro. He did his thing.

[Joe Johnson]

He did do his thing. I'm just saying, you know, sometimes you can. Then it's gonna come in a way you may not think.

[DJ Drama]

Oh, God.

[Joe Johnson]

Kirk Heinrich got hurt and he stepped in. He had to play the point. Yeah, he held it down, but it was tough. Hey, I ain't gonna lie. Because that year, D. Rose, where he was the youngest mvp.

[DJ Drama]

Yep. Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, man, he was a monster. But we end up winning game one. I'm thinking we really had a chance. But when they came here, I don't know, he hit another level.

[DJ Drama]

That nigga had 45. I said, Joe, switch. He said, nigga, it's so mad you wanted this. Nah, nigga, I ain't dreaming about this one.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, right? Hey, you gotta gauge yourself, you know, you play against the mvp, gauging a little bit.

[DJ Drama]

I remember after Game three, it was Mother's Day, Ironically, my mama called me and said, baby, it's okay. I said, nah, everybody mad at me. She said, why they mad at you? Said he had 45 mama. She said, don't worry about it. He do that to everybody. Shout out to my mama, man.

[Co-host / Host]

Yeah, for sure.

[DJ Drama]

I wanted to ask you, what was it like for you when you first came into the Hawks organization?

[Joe Johnson]

Man, the Hawks organization, man, it didn't seem like the NBA. I'm not gonna lie. You know, I had just left Phoenix. I had just left Phoenix. We had won 62 games.

[DJ Drama]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

And we were number one. The number one seed in the playoffs that year. So coming here, prior to me coming here, they had only won 11 games.

[DJ Drama]

Lord, they got to put more respect on my dog, too. Cuz y' all won 11 games when you came here. When I came here, y' all the playoff team. Shout out to my dog.

[Joe Johnson]

What I'm saying is, n. They had won 11 games before I got here. When I got here, we only won 29 the first game. We won 29 the first game. I think I mean, the first year. Then the second year, we end up winning, like, 40. I almost made the playoffs. And then by the time you got.

[DJ Drama]

Here, oh, y' all was lit.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, it was. We hadn't already been through the. Through the rough part. You know what I mean? Like, literally, we go in the arena, man, it's like three, 400 people in there. It did not feel like the NBA.

[Co-host / Host]

Damn.

[DJ Drama]

But what was it like when you left the arena? He a.

[Joe Johnson]

I know.

[DJ Drama]

It was fun, wasn't it? I'm trying to think. When I was in Minnesota, we were sad. I had fun, though.

[Joe Johnson]

The first year, we didn't really hang out a lot, man. Like what? It was too depressing, bro. Like, you getting your ass beat every night, and you think you gonna go out and party. I couldn't do it. It just. I couldn't do it. So it took a little while.

[DJ Drama]

Ah, that's why you was who you are.

[Joe Johnson]

By the time you got here, you already know what it was.

[Co-host / Host]

You was comfortable at that point.

[DJ Drama]

Oh, man, they fucked my life up, man. They showed me what. Listen, I know we gonna get back to you being a professional. You are, but I'm gonna tell y', all, y' all was some professional go outers. Yeah, they went to the club. No, no, no. The whole team went to the club. So don't worry about it. We used to win games, and the whole team would go out and shout out to Joe. He didn't haze me. Everybody else made me do rookie shit. He didn't. But he would always invite me to the club. He went. He ain't go every time. Like me and some of my other teammates, we went every night. We ain't miss a night. Hey, Because Magic City lucky Velvet Room go crazy, kids. What's the other one?

[Joe Johnson]

The far one out here?

[DJ Drama]

They was far.

[Joe Johnson]

They weren't there. Like the Velvet Room?

[DJ Drama]

Nah, that Velvet.

[Co-host / Host]

Velvet Room. Legendary. Compound is legendary.

[DJ Drama]

Compound.

[Co-host / Host]

Legendary.

[DJ Drama]

When I felt crazy, I used to go to the one. What? Jeezy Say in that one song where they had the big ass blue motherfuckers with the big cup, Y' all know I'm Central Station, God damn it. Oh, you was ratchet. That's ratchet, nigga. Yeah, I was out there. Blue Flame. Yeah, that was me. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Joe ain't go to that. Joe. He was. He was up there.

[Joe Johnson]

I didn't. I didn't haze him as a rookie because I hated that shit when I was a rookie. You know, they make you wear them pink backpacks. You know, you have to do all the chores, Go get the prophylactics, go get coffee donuts. I hated all that. So I never messed with him about it.

[DJ Drama]

Nah, he ain't do that, man. My boy T so got ptsd, man. From that popcorn.

[DJ Drama (continued) / Gucci Mane]

Yeah.

[DJ Drama]

Did you know about the popcorn?

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, man.

[DJ Drama]

So he said all that. Good. Then this knew.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, man, you gotta pay your dues. You come in, they gonna get you. Especially if you don't listen, you know what I mean?

[DJ Drama]

So I ain't listening.

[Joe Johnson]

You're a little hard headed at time, but you know, you caught on.

[DJ Drama]

Hey, you remember when? I don't know if you remember, but you remember we had y' all wanted like, Krispy Kreme donuts. Not you. You ain't really eat that. This like a machine. This didn't even eat. I don't know what he ate.

[Joe Johnson]

Chill, chill, chill.

[DJ Drama]

But everybody else ate them donuts and then they didn't eat them for like a month. And I just left them there and they turned green.

[DJ Drama (continued) / Gucci Mane]

No.

[DJ Drama]

And if smooth here. I don't know if smooth here or not, but he. He said he opened that up. They was green. They was molded. That nigga said, ah, hell nah. You gonna pay for this motherfucker.

[Joe Johnson]

That's who used to be on his ass. Smooth. Josh Smith used to be on his ass.

[DJ Drama]

God. Shout out to my man smooth, though. He was on my ass.

[Co-host / Host]

Who was your vet coming into the league?

[Joe Johnson]

Who was what?

[Co-host / Host]

Your vet coming into the league.

[Joe Johnson]

My vets coming into the league was Antwan Walker, Paul Pierce. I got drafted by Boston01. And what I did for Jeff is what those dudes did for me. They looked out for me. Anytime we went somewhere and did anything, you know, we did it as a group.

[DJ Drama]

True.

[Joe Johnson]

I ain't never had to pull my wallet out, you know what I mean? They always took care of me, so I just passed it on down, you.

[DJ Drama]

Know what I mean? So what happened with you?

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, but we had some good times, you know? Twan can Party.

[Co-host / Host]

Something else.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[DJ Drama]

So what happened when you adopted T And my dog? Jordan Crawford is your young boys because they was outside. What happened when you adopted them? You took them under your wig. They was outside.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, everywhere We. When Jordan Crawford got here, I think that was Teague, second year.

[DJ Drama (continued) / Gucci Mane]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Every night, man. It's some. It's either a comedy show, concert. It was something in Atlanta every night. And we. We was. We was moving. We was moving around, bro.

[DJ Drama]

Yeah. Shout out to Joe. He. I mean, I don't like to tell nobody business. I don't. He probably ain't got these cars no more. It was a long time ago, but he used to have a ghost, right? Y' all know Rolls Royce. That motherfucker was nice, but he ain't give a fuck. He let you drive his shit. Me and Jordan hopped in that motherfucker one night. Joe, you know, he was responsible. He was a star. He was averaging 20 something points. He had to be in bed at the right time. Me and Jordan didn't give a fuck. So we end up getting his car. He like, y' all got it. Young fellas. You know how he talk. He smooth in a motherfucker. Y' all got a young fellas, man, y' all go tear that motherfucker up. At the club, we like, yeah, we didn't put our 1500 together to get a section. We take his car. We ain't realized until we got to the club. This nigga got two all over this. It's two on the rims, two in the head seat to where we pull up. Smooth in a motherfucker. Nigga at the door said, man, that's Joe Carr.

[Co-host / Host]

I said, trying to stun.

[DJ Drama]

They asked him to park this motherfucking. Shut up. That motherfucker was clean, though. It was clean.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, man, you gotta let. You gotta let him have some fun sometime, man. You know, as vets, it's imperative that we look out for the rookies, make sure they, you know, they experience some good times.

[DJ Drama]

Nah, in fact, definitely did.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, look, that man probably didn't miss nothing. Anything that was going on, he was out.

[DJ Drama]

Come on, man. I ain't trying to call nobody out, but my teammates went out. If you didn't go, somebody else was. I was out. That boy atl, they probably tired of me, nigga. Compound. I didn't miss a Saturday. It got so bad, man. You remember we played in Charlotte? Charlotte, about a 45 minute flight. I went to compound after ARG. I ain't played, so I wasn't tired. I wasn't tired. I was there until they threw it.

[Joe Johnson]

Little ass in there against D Roll. Yeah.

[DJ Drama]

I'm gonna let you have the moment again. But I remember we about to play. We was about to play D Rose and them. And Kurt, he hurt his leg the last game of that series. In the whole year I've been talking about, man, I'm better than this dude. I'm better than that dude. I should be playing. Blah, blah. Joe. Like, man, man, you keep asking for, man, that don't come, man, man. And then next thing you know, they get hurt. You know how, like, you ready for the moment, but you really ain't ready. Said Shakur get hurt. Coach said, said, we gonna go with you, T. I said, damn, for real. That Joe said, man, it's time you got the mvp. So I'm ready, man. He said, yeah, all right. Walked out. Shout out to my man Joe, though. Nah, good times as a Hawk push. I want to ask, you know what I'm saying? You went to Brooklyn Nets. You know what I'm saying? Free agency. You got to play with my dog. Booth has a 520W.

[Joe Johnson]

I. I didn't go to. I didn't go to.

[DJ Drama]

Not free agency. Sorry, you gotta trade.

[Joe Johnson]

I didn't go to Brooklyn free agency. I got traded. He got traded, right When Danny Ferry took over for the Hawks, I was the first person who he traded.

[DJ Drama]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, God, me too. He traded me. He traded me to Brooklyn, and, you know, the rest is history.

[DJ Drama]

You know what? You know what? I gotta bow.

[Co-host / Host]

None of you.

[DJ Drama]

Hold on. No, he ain't like.

[Co-host / Host]

No, he couldn't stand this right here.

[DJ Drama]

He told me, pull your fucking pants up. I pulled them down to my ankle, you know.

[Joe Johnson]

You know the weirdest part about that is I used to have. Cause all the guys who I hung out with in the summer, you know, they played ball whether it was overseas or whatnot. So when they came over to the States in the summer, I would get them a spot on the roster on the summer league. On Atlanta Hawks summer league team. So I got one of my homeboys on the summer league team. Even though I just got traded, I'm still coming to the arena every day for practice, and I see Danny Ferry every day. That man never spoke to me, never said nothing to me. He never looked my way. And I hey, look.

[DJ Drama]

Yeah, I like that energy.

[Joe Johnson]

That was probably the weirdest thing, because I still had a great. Yeah, a great vibe with the coaches. But everybody was on pins and needle when he took over, because they already knew that at some point, you know, he was getting everybody about him.

[DJ Drama]

You know, I ain't gonna lie. You know, I was mad at you bro. For about a year. He was, you got trade to Brooklyn. He was like, this is my first year, gonna start my second year. You were like. He was like, man, I finally get to play with a great point guard. I said, damn.

[Co-host / Host]

And the sad part is, we love Joe. But hold on though, hold on though. Tell them. Tell them how you used to bust D will ass.

[DJ Drama]

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[DJ Drama]

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[DJ Drama]

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[DJ Drama]

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[DJ Drama]

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[Greg Rosenthal]

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[DJ Drama]

That is where the Big Take from Bloomberg Podcast comes in. To connect the dots.

[DJ Drama (continued) / Gucci Mane]

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[DJ Drama]

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[DJ Drama]

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[Greg Rosenthal]

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[DJ Drama]

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[Co-host / Host]

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[DJ Drama]

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[DJ Drama (continued) / Gucci Mane]

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[Greg Rosenthal]

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[DJ Drama]

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[DJ Drama]

D. Will was green. That's why when we played y' all in the playoffs, I was like, yeah, Joe, that nigga good, ain't he? We beat the hell out them niggas.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, look, sometimes you need something like that, man, to give you a little boost. Yeah, to give you a little boost.

[Co-host / Host]

You know what I mean?

[DJ Drama]

Nah. F aspect.

[Joe Johnson]

But, hey, what about that. What about that game we played y'.

[DJ Drama]

All in London when I killed?

[Joe Johnson]

Huh?

[DJ Drama]

You talking when I was killing.

[Joe Johnson]

We played y' all in London. You don't remember when y'. All. When the Brooklyn Nets played y' all in London?

[Kal Penn]

What?

[DJ Drama]

I had 26N.

[Co-host / Host]

He own that Joe. He own that Joe. Humbling me if you got to.

[DJ Drama]

You know, we run them up.

[Joe Johnson]

I had 30 at the half. I had 30 at the half. Yeah.

[DJ Drama]

Oh, no, no, you cold. We ain't never say you.

[Joe Johnson]

I'm just saying you.

[DJ Drama]

You don't remember that, Joe. You good as you supposed to be. You probably going to be in the hall of Fame. If you ain't in the hall of fame.

[Joe Johnson]

They when I went to Brooklyn. We probably ain't beat y' all too many times, but there was one.

[DJ Drama]

Yeah, you had a good game.

[Greg Rosenthal]

Who?

[DJ Drama]

Guard. I think Kyle might have been guard.

[Joe Johnson]

Nah, that's my man. That's my man.

[DJ Drama]

Put us on, Kyle.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, look, you know. You know a funny story? I played against when.

[DJ Drama (continued) / Gucci Mane]

That game.

[DJ Drama]

He had 30. Who? He did what?

[Co-host / Host]

Jeff had.

[DJ Drama]

Ain't that a beast, Luis. Hey, Social Security out of security.

[Co-host / Host]

Hey, hey.

[Joe Johnson]

Appreciate that, bro.

[DJ Drama]

Please get that and take his ass out of there. I had 12.

[Joe Johnson]

Out the game.

[Co-host / Host]

That's funny to the boy.

[DJ Drama]

That was funny as I. I like you. Matter of fact, say after shock, I talk to you.

[Greg Rosenthal]

N.

[DJ Drama]

Joe, you said you had a story. You said you had a story about Kyle Korver.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, I played when we was 18 playing AAU. I played against him in the National.

[DJ Drama]

Oh, yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Championship. For the Nationals. AAU Nationals championship game.

[DJ Drama]

Who'd you play for? Aau.

[Joe Johnson]

I played for the Arkansas Hawks.

[DJ Drama]

Oh, they legendary.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, we played. I don't remember the name of their team, but I know we played against them in AAU in the championship game. Cal been nice for a minute.

[DJ Drama]

Yeah. Arkansas Hawks for us is a legendary team because Mike Conley Jr. He grew up playing for Arkansas.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah. Because his dad went to Arkansas.

[DJ Drama]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Alumni.

[DJ Drama]

Speaking of Arkansas, y' all got a good coach this year. I'm excited for y' all team, man. Y' all got Kyle appear. Y' all had him last year. It was the first start, but now y' all gotta. Y' all got a whip over there.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, we got some talent.

[Co-host / Host]

Are you helping recruit, though?

[Greg Rosenthal]

Huh?

[Co-host / Host]

Are you helping recruit?

[DJ Drama]

He said, hell no. Respect.

[Joe Johnson]

We got. Hello. There you go. We got. We got. We got some great recruits, but, you know, they don't necessarily lead to championships, bro. You got to get them to buy in. So I think that's going to be the hardest thing. But having coach Kyle, you know, we're going to have talent.

[DJ Drama]

That's a fact.

[Joe Johnson]

You know what I mean? So that's all we can ask for.

[DJ Drama]

At this point, Mass Effect. But I want to ask you this question. You got a legendary highlight, one of the craziest crossovers against Paul Pierce. Please talk us through that moment. Please, please. Because he end up being your teammate. So I know y' all address that.

[Joe Johnson]

At some point like, like I tell y', all, Paul Pierce. Paul Pierce was my vet. OG Bruh, dude, he gave me hell every day as a rookie. Mind you, Boston, they weren't a great team. You know, prior to us getting. By the time we got there, it's kind of like by the time you got to Atlanta, we was a playoff team. Yeah, but they hadn't made the playoffs since they had Paul Pierce and Antoine Walker. So they had three first round picks, 10, 11, and like 22. So we was. I had two other guys on me who were rookies, and Paul Pierce used To, like, he used to haze us every day, bro. But he was like, he was probably the most prolific scorer at that time. Like, I think he led the league in scoring throughout that whole season. I know he finished probably top three at like 30, 29, 30 a game, man. Listen, listen. I'm saying even if he had to be in 0101, 02, I guarantee he was least top three, top four in scoring. And, like.

[DJ Drama]

Tell yourself, shut your ass up. Listen to the story.

[Joe Johnson]

So listen with all that. I never forgot that how he used to go at us and mess with us all the time. So to get that little get back at him, you bring it up to him. Now he gets sensitive about that.

[DJ Drama]

I can't wait to see his ass. I said we talk. We play that crossover damn near once a month. That touched the floor, started reaching for marbles and dominoes and. Nah. And you had a crazy highlight. So before I got church, before I got drafted to the Hawks, you hit D. Wade and you played the Miami Heat. Y' all was cavaling and stuff. And then you played the Boston Celtics in a series where y' all went game seven and you hit a step back. I don't know who was scoring. Was it Ray Allen? It was Paul again. Damn. Which one you hit the deep step back three. Damn near fell.

[Joe Johnson]

I think it was on.

[DJ Drama]

Oh, it was Posey. Yeah. That's when I was started watching the Hawk. I used to play with y' all on 2K, and I was like, yeah, that nigga Joe different. I ain't realized you were six eight. I thought you like six, four.

[Joe Johnson]

So that was my third year here. That was my first time.

[DJ Drama]

What was that like? Cause the atmosphere in the playoffs on the Hawks is good. It's crazy. I want to know what it was like for y' all to be in the playoffs for the first time. What was that atmosphere like?

[Joe Johnson]

It was us being in the playoffs for the first time. That year was pretty much everything I envisioned coming here. Meaning in Boston, I ain't gonna lie. We weren't even competing. They was thrashing. So, like, the first two games, like, man, they gonna sweep them boys. Ain't gonna be nothing, man, it came to Atlanta. I've never seen Atlanta so crump. Like, any and every celebrity who's on the front row, from TI To JD Ludacris, all them dudes, man, they were showing us love and support. And honestly, it was like the sixth. The sixth man that we needed because they kept giving us hope, energy, and anytime Boston made a run, it Was like, they couldn't withstand it here in Atlanta. Like, I don't care what it was. They didn't win a game here. Yeah, and they didn't. So we took them seven. Cleveland, with LeBron, took them seven. Then they won the championship in six or less.

[DJ Drama]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah. So we had a decent run, bro. We had a decent run in.

[DJ Drama]

Yeah. Yeah. I think I always say to these guys, like, our team, that we had my rookie year, even my second year, we was just ahead of our time. Like how Wood played. We switched everything.

[Joe Johnson]

Cause you had Al at the five.

[DJ Drama]

Yep.

[Joe Johnson]

You got Josh at the four. They neither one. Well, they both probably power fours, which would be great in today's game.

[DJ Drama]

Yep.

[Joe Johnson]

But Al wasn't shooting threes like he's shooting.

[DJ Drama]

Not now.

[Joe Johnson]

You know what I mean?

[DJ Drama]

But just think about if you had that team right now, like with Al Horford, the way we played. Like, you was a 1 through 4. Really, but you was playing the 3. You had bib at the 1 1, and then Marvin, and then you still had Jamal Crawford as a sixth man. I'm like, if we had that team in today's basketball, the Atlanta Hawks will win a championship, bro.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, yeah.

[Co-host / Host]

Damn.

[Joe Johnson]

Would be a we for sure. Hey, hold on.

[Co-host / Host]

Nah, nah, nah.

[Joe Johnson]

I love y' all boy in today's game.

[Co-host / Host]

Joe, I love you today, but that over there, I love him to death.

[DJ Drama (continued) / Gucci Mane]

Death.

[Co-host / Host]

I love him to death. Y ain't winning no championship.

[DJ Drama]

Yeah. Ain't winning.

[Co-host / Host]

And I'm going let y' all get y off, cuz. Y' all having a moment. Big bro, little bro, a championship is crazy.

[DJ Drama]

You sure? You sure, bro?

[DJ Drama (continued) / Gucci Mane]

I'm.

[Co-host / Host]

I'm saying, though, like, let's. Let's keep it real. And I don't mean to up the big bro, little bro moment, but. But that team. Joe, you was a mom. When I first seen you, you. I thought she was. AI, Nigga, I thought she was the first AI.

[DJ Drama (continued) / Gucci Mane]

I told him.

[Co-host / Host]

I said, bro, this is the biggest two guard I ever seen in my life. Chest busting out of the jersey. Pause.

[Kal Penn]

Respect.

[Co-host / Host]

But I swear to God, bro, I don't know if y' all could beat that Oklahoma City Thunder team right now, bro.

[Greg Rosenthal]

Why not?

[Joe Johnson]

Be a good one.

[Greg Rosenthal]

Why not?

[Co-host / Host]

I mean, if y' all made it to the finals, I. I give y' all one or two games.

[DJ Drama]

I mean, the Pacers took him to seven.

[DJ Drama (continued) / Gucci Mane]

We.

[DJ Drama]

Hey, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold, hold on.

[Co-host / Host]

On.

[DJ Drama (continued) / Gucci Mane]

On.

[Co-host / Host]

They. And y' all had. Y' all had some killers, bro. Y' all was the codest. But I swear to God, that have been the today's game. I can't just. I can't just sit up here and let you say y' all going to win a championship. Now say. Say y' all be a 2, 3, 4, 5 seed.

[DJ Drama (continued) / Gucci Mane]

Cool.

[Co-host / Host]

But a y. Y' all disrespecting today's game.

[DJ Drama]

I hate that, man.

[Co-host / Host]

That's my to deal. But.

[DJ Drama]

But y' all ass. Why you always try to humble me in my moments?

[Co-host / Host]

I'm not trying to humble you, but you just said the championship so easy, bro. The NBA ain't sweet.

[DJ Drama]

Well, goddamn it. Have you seen Joe play 47, 8, 9.

[Co-host / Host]

Nah, Joe was hard back then. Joe couldn't nobody with Joe back in the day.

[Joe Johnson]

He off that 42 up here. That's the problem.

[Co-host / Host]

Get you a shot.

[DJ Drama]

And Joe was gonna guard sga. It might be a long night, Joe. I ain't gonna say it's gonna be a long night. Look like long night. It's. Listen, y' all was gonna have to cancel each other.

[Co-host / Host]

No, y. I'm though y' all team was fire.

[Joe Johnson]

It'll been a long night for a lot of people.

[DJ Drama]

Yeah, I wouldn't guard him.

[Co-host / Host]

I want to ask you though, how was it going from like that Phoenix team and stepping into that leadership role with the Hawks? Was that like a big transition for you or was it easy for you?

[Joe Johnson]

Nah, it was a huge transition for me, cuz I'm just a chill, laid back guy. Ain't no rah rah dude. I ain't finna be out here of, you know, trying to hype you up this and the third. I'm a guy who kind of just leads by example. So, you know, we professionals. At the end of the day, we expect everybody to come ready to play. You know what I mean? Yeah, it was a.

[Co-host / Host]

And that was a championship team. What, that Phoenix team?

[DJ Drama (continued) / Gucci Mane]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

We only had one year together, bro. One year. You give us three years together, we at least get one.

[Co-host / Host]

Nah, that's a fact. That's a fact.

[DJ Drama]

And I want to ask you this. A lot of people discredit Steve Nash, say he didn't deserve two MVPs, but how good was was he playing with a player like that, man?

[Joe Johnson]

Nash was he. He was. He was great, bro. But he was great because he understood the guys who were surrounded around him. You know, you got Amari Stoudemire, who was damn man child, you know what I mean? Since he came into the league, like he won rookie of the year, Over Yao Ming.

[DJ Drama]

Facts.

[Joe Johnson]

Then you got a perennial all star and Shawn Marion, who you ain't got to run no plays for. And he gonna get 20 and 10 every night. And then you got Quentin Richardson who came over from the Clippers, who led the league in three point makes that year. Man, I ain't even know this can shoot threes. When we used to play the Clippers, when Q they would run a turn three. It's just a post up play every time. So I didn't even know he could shoot the way he could shoot.

[DJ Drama (continued) / Gucci Mane]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

And I end up leading the league in free throw percentage at 48, 49% from 3. And Nash took the back seat, to be honest with you, because he could have averaged 25 easily. But he settled for 16 points and 13 assists. You know what I mean? So. And I think, yeah, he won MVP with that. We were the best team in the league.

[DJ Drama]

That's Kobe MVP for. Joe said it was. It was Sting Nash mvp.

[Joe Johnson]

Wasn't.

[DJ Drama]

They tried to say it was Kobe mvp. I said Steve Nash won it.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, man, I. I think when you win, obviously everybody gets rewarded, right?

[DJ Drama]

That's a fact.

[Joe Johnson]

Considering the fact when he. He came to, we wasn't even a playoff team the year before.

[DJ Drama]

Yeah, facts.

[Joe Johnson]

And then we end up making it to the Western Conference final.

[DJ Drama]

That's a fact. That's MVP worthy.

[Joe Johnson]

Against the Dallas series. The series. I got hurt against Dallas.

[DJ Drama]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

And that man Putting up 43, 16, 37, 15. Like crazy.

[DJ Drama]

So people forget that, don't they?

[DJ Drama (continued) / Gucci Mane]

Huh?

[DJ Drama]

People forget that, don't they?

[Joe Johnson]

But yeah, they do forget.

[DJ Drama]

That's why I forget.

[Joe Johnson]

But you know, he wanted to get back anyway because Dallas didn't want to resign him. So you know they was gonna get the best.

[DJ Drama]

He was only.

[Joe Johnson]

He was a beast, bro.

[DJ Drama]

My boy be here. Double cup. You good over there, brother.

[Co-host / Host]

Hey, boy, this tequila kicking my ass. I ain't gonna lie. I with yo with Joe take a toast.

[DJ Drama]

Hey, pimp. See, I think we need to wake me head up, man. You got something to play back here. That Joe drinking water. He just toasted. So ain't pump faking. What y' all like that song? Let me tell y' all a story about that song. That nigga right there, that's how I met him, cuz. He said he had crit. No, no, no, no, no, no. You wasn't trying to get me locked up.

[Co-host / Host]

Police ass. Charleston white ass. Six nine ass. God damn.

[DJ Drama]

Damn. Why you ain't say the other name? H Scary ass.

[Greg Rosenthal]

This.

[DJ Drama]

Oh, man.

[Co-host / Host]

You Bogus as hell over here.

[DJ Drama]

Hey, listen, man, make some noise for ISO Joe pulling up, man, for the live show in the. Hey, yes, sir, Big Dog, we appreciate you, man. Long time coming, man. We got to do it again, man. Make some noise for Rosco Dash in the building. One time for the one time.

[Co-host / Host]

Sir.

[DJ Drama]

Yes, sir. Big Dog, we appreciate you sliding on us tonight. How you feeling, bro?

[Roscoe Dash]

Thanks for having me, man. I love this, bro. I love this podcast. So I'm happy to be up here. I appreciate y', all, too. I appreciate you, baby.

[Co-host / Host]

You got real fans name. You know that, right?

[Roscoe Dash]

Yeah, man. This crazy.

[Co-host / Host]

Yeah, bro. We celebrate you all the time. I appreciate that. Oh, hold on.

[DJ Drama]

The up now you lying.

[Co-host / Host]

Hold on. I'mma tell you why I celebrate. And I'm gonna tell you.

[DJ Drama]

He tried to clown.

[Co-host / Host]

No, hold on. I did. But let me tell how big this. This is a hay, man.

[DJ Drama]

Sneak on me. On me.

[Co-host / Host]

So for you to be so influential that you made this get a Mohawk, bro, you was the biggest.

[DJ Drama]

When I pulled to Atlanta, I was like, damn, this hard, man. It's so inspiring. I was like, he got the mohawk. People with, I'm about to get a Mohawk. And this roast me every day for that.

[Co-host / Host]

That's crazy head, cuz. Only reason why now I know. But, bro, I only roasted him because he got the blonde tips in this. When he put the blonde in his hair, I said, hold on, what we.

[DJ Drama]

Doing on the west side of that, bro? I ain't had no blonde tips. Nah.

[Co-host / Host]

But, bro, I just want to say thank you so much, bro.

[Joe Johnson]

Appreciate you, bro.

[Kal Penn]

For real.

[Co-host / Host]

We appreciate.

[DJ Drama]

No, we really do, though, cuz. I. When I came to Atlanta, that was the vibe. So, like, even to see, like, Metro kind of bring that vibe back a little bit, that was a vibe. But, like, like, them songs, like, show out all that. Whoa, nigga, you had me dancing in the club, bro.

[Co-host / Host]

Did you know what you had back then?

[Roscoe Dash]

No.

[Greg Rosenthal]

I think we was just trying to.

[Roscoe Dash]

Like, do something fun for me. I grew up as a student of the game. Like, I used to go to Earwax and shit like that. Go get records and CDs and read the booklet, you know what I'm saying? So, like, I was really a student of what's going on and not just shit from Atlanta, you know what I'm saying? Like, everything, whether it's d blocking them, DMX, whoever, like Andre 3000, all them.

[DJ Drama]

Like.

[Roscoe Dash]

So when I got my opportunity, it was about just pouring that back into where I are. What made me fall in love with Music, you know what I'm saying? So, same thing with the Metro. I think it's just about making music fun again. Literally.

[DJ Drama]

That's a fact. What was that like when, like. Like how we just played Turn up and, like, everybody still get hyped for that, you know what I mean? That's a vibe. What's that like for you?

[Roscoe Dash]

I just love. I'm a person that's built off reciprocity, bro, to be honest. So anytime that you can give your all or put your effort and energy into something and get something back the same way, that's love. You know what I mean?

[DJ Drama]

So.

[Co-host / Host]

Bro, you literally. Literally one of the biggest.

[DJ Drama (continued) / Gucci Mane]

Like, who.

[Co-host / Host]

Who put you in the booth? Like, did you just.

[Roscoe Dash]

Man, I've been doing this since we had boom boxes with the little cassette tape, and we were stuffing paper in the side to wrap over the karaoke machine.

[DJ Drama]

Like, damn, whoever that is. Old as. Cause y' all was emotional. As she said, I'm 30, know n. For real. It's just.

[Roscoe Dash]

It's in me, bro. I come from a music family. My. My mom played the clarinet and some woodwind or whatever. My brother made beats, so it was like kind of just in me. I was around music all the time. I'm like, man, I'm going to rap. I'm in there.

[Co-host / Host]

Okay. Yeah, cuz, you definitely. You make timeless music, though. Are you working on anything new right now?

[Roscoe Dash]

Yeah, we coming off of the. The Metro thing. It's still a futuristic summer right now, so we shooting all the videos for that. Just continuing to just pour fun back into the community, man, and just doing stuff together, bringing it together. I feel like, honestly, being from Atlanta and just being a student of the game, I feel like we've always been a place of camaraderie. That's why people want to come and be a part of what we got going on. Whether that's art, whether that's theater, whether it's music, whatever it is. So for me, right now, it's just about continuing to build on that. There's a lot of people who didn't bridge those gaps. So now that I'm in a space, coming in at 19 years old to now being 35, like. Like, I'm the bridge now, you know what I'm saying? So I'm just gonna try to keep putting in what needs to be there, you know what I mean?

[Joe Johnson]

So.

[Co-host / Host]

Nah, for sure. Now I gotta ask, man.

[DJ Drama]

What?

[Roscoe Dash]

We ain't oh, neither. Somebody said that in the front. We ain't. Oh, I ain't Accepting that shit. Yeah.

[Co-host / Host]

What. What made you get the Mohawk?

[DJ Drama]

Dash?

[Co-host / Host]

Tell me about the Mohawk Journey. Cause he just got it off the strength. Yeah, he just went to the barbershop, said, give me the number 13.

[DJ Drama]

Nah, that's what Dash got.

[Co-host / Host]

Dash got the 13. So I wanna know.

[DJ Drama]

Get that right there. Hey, that's crazy.

[Co-host / Host]

Where the Mohawk come from the start, honestly.

[Roscoe Dash]

I always had, like, hair and shit, and I think I cut my hair when I was, like, 17. I was in high school, and then I started growing it back, and I think I cut my own first Mohawk. And then I was inspired by, like, Young LA and that type of stuff. Like, just having the designs in there. I fuck with Leland. Leland's him. You know what I'm saying? So shout out to Leland for that. But, yeah, I cut my own first Mohawk. Then I just started going. I was like, man, I can't keep doing this because this ain't really my speed. Trying to be in the mirror doing my own shit. And so I went to go fuck with Barbershop Bill over off Candler and Wesley Chapel. And then from there, I ran into Bobby's World, and it was history from there.

[Co-host / Host]

Oh, okay, cool.

[DJ Drama]

Cuz I know that. I know people probably was adding you like a. When he said that, 100%. Yeah.

[Commercial Announcer]

Yeah.

[DJ Drama]

Cuz I. I was mad. I ain't going to lie. I said, you got me up.

[Co-host / Host]

He was mad.

[DJ Drama]

He was mad because he couldn't get.

[Roscoe Dash]

No, he couldn't do that.

[DJ Drama]

You know what I'm saying? He was going to kill his growth process. Was.

[Co-host / Host]

That was crazy.

[DJ Drama]

Whoa, you right. You cr. You right out the process. I'mma mute my mic. That's crazy. I don't deserve to spend. It's a bad weekend for that kind of stream. Whoa. Shout out to the city Respect My bad, gang.

[Roscoe Dash]

Hey, y' all wilding.

[DJ Drama]

I want to ask you about no Hands. How did that record come about, man?

[Roscoe Dash]

I think me and Waka was doing. We was always, like, around each other. We used to go to Mariachi Mondays, Belushi up in Gwinnett. We used to, like, move around and just do shit together. So I think we was coming off the road and I went to Patchwork, literally, to go. I think we was going to fuck with Gucci when he first got out one of them times. And Waka was in the B room, so it was, like, super flooded in a room. So I'm like, let me go find something else to do. Cause I'm not finna you know what I mean? And drummer boy Happened to be in there with Waka, and we was actually talking about doing something else, like some other type of music. But I looked at Walk, I said, bro, the ladies love you, bro, and I don't know why, but they love you, though. So we going to make a song for them, like, you know what I'm saying? Like, you do a record for them, they going to love you for the.

[DJ Drama (continued) / Gucci Mane]

Rest of your life.

[Roscoe Dash]

And I was like, I got the hook, bro. Just write the verse. While they happened to walk in, he was, like, standing off to the side somewhere, just jotting on that BlackBerry and. And I was like, Reese had came in. Shout out to Reese, too. She helped put that together. She was like, wale, got something you want to put?

[DJ Drama]

I said, man, this w. Put the nigga on.

[Roscoe Dash]

Tell him to go in the booth. And the rest was history, bro. Came out the next day on More About Nothing, I think, or something like that. And it was up from there.

[DJ Drama]

Did you know that was a hit when you.

[Roscoe Dash]

I knew it immediately. Yeah, I knew it immediately. I don't know if they knew it. I knew that shit, though.

[DJ Drama]

It's crazy. I know Joe, before you got here, Joe was like, I know we gonna play that no hands tonight, ain't we? He didn't even know you was coming. Cause one day we went to a club. My fault, Joe. I don't know if you still here or not. We went to a club. We was the first motherfuckers in the club. Literally, it was us. It was a couple girls. Listen. And we played this song 20 times in a row.

[Roscoe Dash]

That's crazy.

[DJ Drama]

It was just us. And we got hype every time.

[Roscoe Dash]

That's fine.

[DJ Drama]

Like, we heard it for the first time. My fault, Joe.

[Joe Johnson]

I know.

[Roscoe Dash]

I think music's supposed to do that for you, though, you know what I'm saying? Like, even before I knew how to make music, bro, it was songs that made me feel like that no matter what type of day I was having. So I just wanted to have something like back that ass up. I wanted some. I wanted my own version of that, you know what I'm saying?

[Co-host / Host]

So, yeah, you got that. You got that for sure.

[DJ Drama]

I don't know if that's your family over there. I mean. Yeah, yeah, that going crazy. What you want to hear? Oh, she with you.

[Co-host / Host]

Hey, hey, hey, Pim. Drop that no hands then. Drop that no hands.

[DJ Drama]

Nah. Play that show out every time I go out. Yeah, play that. Play that show album.

[Co-host / Host]

That ain't what he did in that song.

[DJ Drama]

Yeah, yeah.

[Co-host / Host]

What's Up Pimp C, salute my guy.

[DJ Drama]

Shout out to DJ Pimpsy setting the vibe. John, Big Dog, we appreciate you sliding on us tonight. How you feeling? How you living, brother?

[DJ Drama (continued) / Gucci Mane]

I'm living good, man. Thanks for having me, man. Congratulations to y' all on going on Tour, the 520 podcast. Doing big things.

[DJ Drama]

Come on.

[Co-host / Host]

Thank you, thank you.

[DJ Drama (continued) / Gucci Mane]

Nap Town in the building.

[DJ Drama]

You know man, I boost mope against DJ drama ended building. Listen all of us man, we all have enjoyed your music. Everybody in the crowd. Big sa going crowd. I want to ask you put you on the hot seat. What's one of your favorite mixtapes you ever made that people may not know? That's one of your favorites.

[DJ Drama (continued) / Gucci Mane]

One of my favorites that I made that people may not not know. Yeah. What y' all think?

[Joe Johnson]

Think.

[DJ Drama (continued) / Gucci Mane]

Y' all saying. Y' all saying the obvious ones though. Like we know trapad that. Oh yeah, you talking about the ones that people may not know.

[Co-host / Host]

Yeah.

[DJ Drama (continued) / Gucci Mane]

Nap Town's finest. I'mma probably say, you know there's always. That's a good one shot the G Perico. Yo Gotti, I told you so. We could be here for days. You know what I'm saying? Just talk that I'm gonna definitely say Crenshaw. Rest in peace, my brother. Nip King Nip. That's one of them for sure. Me and Chris Brown did in my zone back in class 0809.

[Co-host / Host]

That's a classic.

[DJ Drama (continued) / Gucci Mane]

Definitely a classic. The burr print was one of them ones. The movie. The movie was a classic.

[Co-host / Host]

That's the greatest Gucci tape.

[DJ Drama (continued) / Gucci Mane]

Jeremiah Late nights. Jeremiah Late nights is a good one.

[DJ Drama]

I don't want to cut you off. Listen, you got too many relapse on some naptown. We gotta say I know Goose acl, that's y' all guy. But in that the movie.

[DJ Drama (continued) / Gucci Mane]

Yeah movie was. I could see that.

[Co-host / Host]

Probably the best Gucci tape ever brought.

[DJ Drama]

That might be one of the best places photo shoot Pimpsy oh oh. They said they trying to act crazy.

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[DJ Drama]

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[DJ Drama]

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[DJ Drama (continued) / Gucci Mane]

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[Greg Rosenthal]

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[DJ Drama (continued) / Gucci Mane]

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[Greg Rosenthal]

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[Roscoe Dash]

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[Greg Rosenthal]

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[DJ Drama (continued) / Gucci Mane]

I gotta. I got a funny story about the movie too, because that was. That was me and Gucci's first tape that we did together. And right after we did that tape, he. He had got locked up for one one of them stints. And. And. And like the tape, the tape had, like, it didn't really have a buzz at first. You know what I'm saying? When we first dropped it, I don't remember what was going on, but to a point where I couldn't really, like, feel it, feel it. And then I was going out of town. I was going to places like Pittsburgh and Naptown, yo. And I would ask what is listening to and it's like, all we playing is that Gucci the movie. I'm like, oh, that is going. And that was turning into a classic right under my eyes. So shout out to go out. Nah.

[Co-host / Host]

Thanks, bro.

[DJ Drama (continued) / Gucci Mane]

Good times.

[Co-host / Host]

How did you get into the game, though? I want to ask how you got into the game of DJing? Like, did you start DJing in the clubs? What's up?

[DJ Drama]

What.

[Co-host / Host]

What happened?

[DJ Drama (continued) / Gucci Mane]

Hold on.

[Co-host / Host]

I can't. What you say Now, y' all know that used to bugs and in this house, y' all know he come from humble beginnings. He had. That's trauma. Trying to catch bugs and roaches and rats. That's trauma. We here with drama today.

[DJ Drama (continued) / Gucci Mane]

Don't pay attention.

[DJ Drama]

My house big. I got nice.

[Co-host / Host]

Respect.

[DJ Drama]

We got Ray. We got Ray, man.

[Co-host / Host]

Shut the up. Now I want to ask how you got into this, like, DJing space. Like, who was.

[DJ Drama (continued) / Gucci Mane]

You know, I'm originally from. From Philly.

[DJ Drama]

Yeah. Yeah.

[DJ Drama (continued) / Gucci Mane]

And when I was growing up, I went to go see the movie Juice, and I was pretty much inspired by Omar Epson's character in the movie. That was like my first time like. Like seeing a. A DJ on a big screen. You know what I'm saying? And like, you know, I was always into music. I didn't feel like I could really, really rap. Even though I talked the best shit ever in life, I just can't make that shit rhyme. But so, you know, so I decided to get into DJing. I convinced my grandmom to buy me a turntable. She bought me a turntable. I got a turntable and a mixer. This is. This is old school shit, y'. All. Before the computer and, you know, I had like a Crater Records when I was in high school. My sister took me to New York. I bought my first mixtape. It was like an old school mixtape. And then I was just fascinated by mixtape DJs ever since, like, you know, the mixtape DJ for me, like, you know, when it comes to DJing, there's like different forms. There's like club DJs, there's radio DJs, there's show DJs. And you know, in my time when I was coming up, it was mixtape DJs. So to me, the mixtape DJ always felt like the biggest, you know what I'm saying? Because they were like their own artists, they had their own product, you know what I'm saying? I would go places. I would hear DJ Clue coming out of cars and shit like that. And I was like, that was a dream, a goal of mine. I want to hear my shit playing out of somebody car. So I moved to Atlanta. I went to Clark Atlanta University. I met my shot to cau, Shout to the AUC in the building. I met my business partners, my best friends. Then Lake Show, Don Cannon and DJ Sense and you know, we befriended each other. We started the affiliates and you know, short story long or long story short, I created Gangsta grills in like 2000 maybe. Around that time I had. I was introduced to TI by his manager, Jason Jeter. Tip came to my crib. I used to live in a full Ford and Coach K used to live around the corner from me, Naptown and Shout out to Coach K. And, you know, Tip came through for the first time. He was the first person to ever call me off of getting my number off of the back of a mixtape. He had just got his deal And Young Ti comes through the crib and he spits this freestyle. At the end of it, he says, like, he's the king of the South. And when he left, I told my man, DJ Sense, like, yo, this little nigga's crazy. He just said he's the fucking king of the South. Like, the fuck is going on? Next thing you know, me and Tip, I got befriended by Ground Hustle. Coach told me he had this new artist he was working with named Young Jeezy. Jeezy and Coach were the first people to ever pay me for a mixtape. They gave me a thousand dollars to do Streets is Watching and the rest is history.

[Co-host / Host]

No, that's hard, bro.

[DJ Drama]

Streets is watching. When I first heard you. But the reason I fell in love, how you did mixtapes was Trap or Die, for sure. And when I first heard Trap or Die, like, shit, I was trying to trap her die. I ain't never been a street, but I was trying. I said, if anybody got some weed, I'm ready to sell that.

[DJ Drama (continued) / Gucci Mane]

Thank you.

[DJ Drama]

Thank you. Barbie.

[Co-host / Host]

What's up, Barbie?

[DJ Drama (continued) / Gucci Mane]

How you doing?

[DJ Drama]

We gotta get these some ice packs. They out of pocket, cuz. Pocket what?

[DJ Drama (continued) / Gucci Mane]

What was y' all listening to? Like, what mixtapes were y' all listening to in the long locker rooms and at practice and stuff like that? I wanted to.

[DJ Drama]

Mixtapes, bro. We listen to dedication, we listen to drown, we listen to. I was a trapper. I play Trapper Die. Still to this day, like, I'm a Jeezy.

[DJ Drama (continued) / Gucci Mane]

Was that how you heard about Jeezy? Through Trap or Die?

[DJ Drama]

What? And then like, that snowfall, like, when that first. That intro, I said, oh, they trying to take me back. Lord, I was so hyped. Everybody know. They know I listen to Jeezy all day, so. So I listen to anything atl. Like, when I came here, I was, like, adopted. So, like, future, all them, like, everybody. Atlanta is just what I listen to.

[DJ Drama (continued) / Gucci Mane]

Yeah, no, we've all been adopted by the city.

[DJ Drama]

Anyway, I gotta take it back because I know there's a lot of people favorite here, but the first time I heard that Dedication two, like, I was hit the Dedication one for sure. When I heard Dedication two for the first time, my life up, dog.

[DJ Drama (continued) / Gucci Mane]

Yeah, I mean, I feel like Trap a Dime and dedication, like, really changed my life, you know? Trap a Die was. Was a lot of firsts for me. Again, that was the first time I, like, you know, anybody had ever, like, really gave me money to do a mixtape, you know, that's kind of where I. I feel like I Found my personality too. I was talking shit before that on, like earlier Gangsta Grills, like before Gangsta Grylls was. How y' all know it today? It was like, it was like a compilation of the hottest songs in the street. So it was kind of similar to every other mixtape. But I had always wanted to make it where it was like its own brand, where, like, you know, that was the only place you could get that music. So when I linked up with Tip and with Jeezy, you know, they gave me the opportunity to do that. And you know, when. When we did Trap or Die, we did a DVD that was the first time that had been done. And so people found out what I looked like, like, because of my voice is kind of deep. You know, a lot of people thought I was like dark skinned and like, like this big dude. You know what I'm saying?

[DJ Drama]

And I'm people, right?

[DJ Drama (continued) / Gucci Mane]

So everybody's like, who's this white guy? Saying all over the songs when the DVD came out and, and then, you know, with, with. With dedication, you know, Wayne was like, like really coming into his own at that point. When we did the first one, he had kind of. He was. He was doing the Carter albums, but like, Dedication and Trabada were tapes that, you know, because they were mixtapes and they were in the streets, you know, they, they, they went a lot of different places. So, you know, a lot of people heard those. Those guys through those tapes. Like, they wasn't playing Jeezy on Hot 97 in New York at first, but N. In New York was listening to the mixtapes, you know what I'm saying? So they heard it. You know, they were. They were hearing Wayne through Dedication. So, so, you know, a lot of. With Gangster Grills, like, I, I can look back on through history and say like, it was. It was very pivotal in helping, you know, Southern hip hop culture reach the masses and go worldwide the way it did.

[DJ Drama]

That's a fact. I want to ask what's against the grills that almost happened, but didn't happen.

[DJ Drama (continued) / Gucci Mane]

Oh, man. Which one? Talk about the Rico.

[DJ Drama]

Whoa, y' all is federal.

[DJ Drama (continued) / Gucci Mane]

Nice. What?

[DJ Drama]

We having a good time. Got dark. Get that a drink. Get, get security. Get that out of here. Like what? Say that word in Atlanta. You know, better.

[DJ Drama (continued) / Gucci Mane]

I. I don't remember. I don't remember that rapper. I don't remember. I don't remember that rapper. Damn. What was the qu. Oh, the ones that almost happened. Travis Scott. What is it? Days after Rodeo that was going to be a gangster. Girls.

[Joe Johnson]

Damn.

[DJ Drama (continued) / Gucci Mane]

And Then Kanye told him, don't. No, I don't do that.

[DJ Drama]

Damn. Yeah, he hated.

[Co-host / Host]

Yeah, yeah, he hated.

[DJ Drama (continued) / Gucci Mane]

I don't think he was. I mean, he was kind of hating. But, you know, sometimes people just, like. You know, for whatever reason, they. They want to go in a different direction. I ain't mad at them. We did a. Future, we did a tape. We did. We did one. It's actually called the Movie. Yeah, that's where Chosen One came from. Me and Future got a classic.

[Co-host / Host]

No, that's a fact.

[DJ Drama]

Don't know, like, Chosen One.

[Co-host / Host]

That's the best rapper ever to do it right there.

[DJ Drama (continued) / Gucci Mane]

Shout out, shot the Future go.

[DJ Drama]

They shouldn't have told me that.

[DJ Drama (continued) / Gucci Mane]

Lord, that tape don't get talked about enough. That was a good tape, for sure. I was gonna ask y' all. What.

[Co-host / Host]

What?

[DJ Drama (continued) / Gucci Mane]

Who should I do a tape with that I haven't done a tape with? Who?

[DJ Drama]

Y' all think.

[DJ Drama (continued) / Gucci Mane]

That'S the one?

[DJ Drama]

Hey, I ain't mad at that one.

[DJ Drama (continued) / Gucci Mane]

Oh.

[Kal Penn]

Kodak.

[DJ Drama (continued) / Gucci Mane]

That. Who Shy. All right, Bun B. All right. I did want. Me and Bunby did one. Me and. But we could do another one. But, yeah, I did one with Bun. That's a lot. Lot of good ones I'm hearing.

[DJ Drama]

Shout out to y'.

[DJ Drama (continued) / Gucci Mane]

All.

[DJ Drama]

Shout out to y'.

[Kal Penn]

All.

[DJ Drama]

I want to ask, you always had an offer, talent. What's it like? Back to back years, you going on tour Wiz, you bringing out Uzi, you bring out Jack Harlow being the executive, you know what I'm saying? Pieces stuff together. Coming from a DJ perspective, what's that like?

[DJ Drama (continued) / Gucci Mane]

You know, it's crazy because I feel like it was, you know, it's progression. It's evolution. It's really being like, you know, loving the culture, like, and wanting to continue to put on for hip hop and leaving a legacy behind. You know, interestingly enough, like. Like, we started the label Generation now in 2014, and around that time, I. I started to notice that, you know, the mixtape grind was kind of slowing down, and the mixtape wasn't the same. Streaming was, you know, was. Was being introduced, and, you know, I just was. Wasn't doing as many tapes. I had just built the studio in Atlanta called Mean Street Studios, and through that studio, you know, me and Me, Lake show and Don Cannon. When we started Generation now, you know, Uzi was. Was the first artist that we signed, and we had. We had kind of missed out on a couple artists that we were interested in signing. And at the time, Uzi came along and, you know, Cannon brought Uzi to the table. And we was like, yo, we don't want to miss any more artists. So I was working at Atlantic, and we took Uzi to Atlantic through Generation now and, you know, becoming an executive, like, being an A. I got my A and R job because I was putting out my own albums. I was put. I was making my own records, and people believed in me because of the success I was having. So, you know, I went on to becoming an A and R, and I had to find my footing at first. Like, when I first got in the building, you know, they were putting me with artists that they had already had signed, and that really wasn't my forte or like. Like how my style of a ring was. And, you know, it was more about discovering new talent, which I had been doing for years already through the mixtapes, you know. So when we brought Uzi to the table, a lot of people didn't believe in it. Like, you know, they didn't see the vision. Especially like, this kid with purple hair from Philly, from a city where, like, you know, at the time, it had been known for real spitters and. And always has been, like, you know, Meek and State Prop and Siegel and. And stuff like that. So Uzi was, you know, something. Something like kind of. Kind of new at the time. You know, I remember having to tell people, like, people like, you know, what type of artist is he? And I'd be like, you know, he's like. He's like, what. What ASAP Rocky is to. To Philly, you know what I'm saying? That was the only way I could describe him at the time. And, you know, a lot of Uzi's success also came here in Atlanta, because we were here in Atlanta. You know, he moved here. He. He met Thug here. We. I took him on to wizard, and, you know, I basically, like, almost created this, like, this formula of us breaking artists. So after, you know, I worked with Uzi and we signed Jack, we kind of ran through the same routine. Like, he moved here. We. We introduced him to everybody at the studio. You know, I took him on tour and, you know, what he made was popping, and the rest is history.

[DJ Drama]

No, it's a fact. What's more fun, DJing in the club or making the music that you play in the club?

[DJ Drama (continued) / Gucci Mane]

Club. What's more more fun, DJing the club or making the music? I like both of them. You know, the club, like, being on stage is, you know, I guess it'd be comparable to, say, like, you know, being on the court. Like, it's performing, you know, what I'm saying. So, you know, I love to be in front of whether it's, you know, 200, 2000, 20,000, like, doing what I do best, but, you know, being in the studio is still. It's that creative side. So, you know, that's where I can kind of go on my zone and, you know, work with the music and, you know, create the music to. For people to hear. So they're both very invigorating in a lot of different ways. Like, they go hand in hand. Joe.

[Co-host / Host]

How was that tour, man, with Jeezy going on this orchestra tour?

[DJ Drama (continued) / Gucci Mane]

Oh, man. Did anybody come to that tour? Did anybody get an opportunity to shout out to y', all, I appreciate y'. All.

[Co-host / Host]

I caught y' all in Orlando.

[DJ Drama (continued) / Gucci Mane]

Yeah, absolutely. No, but you was in the building. If you haven't got a chance to see the tour, we. We're doing a residency in Vegas at the end of the month, end of October. We have two dates then and then two dates in December, a masquerade ball, and then Nutcracker during the holidays. So, you know, y' all childish.

[Roscoe Dash]

Sorry, Drop.

[DJ Drama]

My audience isn't short. God, watch that in the front, man.

[Co-host / Host]

Yeah, they childish.

[DJ Drama]

He be watching everything.

[DJ Drama (continued) / Gucci Mane]

But, you know, that tour. That tour was like.

[Joe Johnson]

Is that different?

[DJ Drama (continued) / Gucci Mane]

Like, yeah, it was. It was different because, like, you know, it's 20 years later, it's celebrating Thug Motivation.

[Co-host / Host]

Yeah.

[DJ Drama (continued) / Gucci Mane]

You know, an album that, you know, changed. Changed a lot. It changed Jeezy's life. It changed my life. It changed everything, but it changed so much. Like, there's not a lot of albums in hip hop like that. Like, thug motivation that 20 years later, still bang the way that bang. Like, you could put that on the club right now. 12:31 o'.

[DJ Drama]

Clock. What'd you say? Play Stand It up.

[DJ Drama (continued) / Gucci Mane]

Like it was 2005.

[Co-host / Host]

Oh, that's a fact.

[DJ Drama]

Come on, go back. Listen, Jesus.

[Co-host / Host]

You need to get your mom, right? Like, what?

[DJ Drama]

What did you say? Play get your.

[DJ Drama (continued) / Gucci Mane]

Everybody's gonna sing a word for word.

[Co-host / Host]

Like, it was like.

[DJ Drama (continued) / Gucci Mane]

It was 2005. 5.

[Co-host / Host]

Now, was y' all in the studio making this together?

[DJ Drama (continued) / Gucci Mane]

Yeah, it was at Patchwork. Made that whole album at.

[Co-host / Host]

That's a legendary studio, by the way. If you don't.

[DJ Drama (continued) / Gucci Mane]

Yeah, for sure. Shout out to Patchwork. You know what's crazy is to watch. What's crazy is the.

[Joe Johnson]

Hold on.

[Co-host / Host]

Shout out. Shout out.

[DJ Drama]

Uncle Gucci, my brother, Uncle Gucci.

[Co-host / Host]

Uncle Gucci. Uncle Gucci.

[DJ Drama]

Uncle Gucci.

[Greg Rosenthal]

That's.

[DJ Drama]

That's my brother. Now they call him uncle what yeah, Uncle Gucci. Don't ask why. I ain't going to ask you why they call him that, though.

[Co-host / Host]

Now, how was that, though, in the studio, working with Jeezy on that album?

[DJ Drama (continued) / Gucci Mane]

It's always a time. I mean, Jeezy works pretty. How would I describe it? Productively, I guess, to say, I mean, he, you know, he.

[Co-host / Host]

He'll.

[DJ Drama (continued) / Gucci Mane]

Like this most recent mixtape we just did, still snowing. He did that in like two weeks.

[Co-host / Host]

Damn.

[DJ Drama (continued) / Gucci Mane]

Like, you know, he'll go in, get in the zone and. And bang it out. You know what I'm saying? So, you know, to think about, like, trappedon thug motivation, like, oh, pause.

[Co-host / Host]

What'd he say? What'd I say?

[DJ Drama (continued) / Gucci Mane]

What?

[DJ Drama]

I say?

[Co-host / Host]

No, that's not a banger.

[DJ Drama (continued) / Gucci Mane]

That's not a pause.

[DJ Drama]

Like, they reach it. They reach.

[DJ Drama (continued) / Gucci Mane]

Don't reach him with that one. That's not a pause. I didn't say, like, no, no, no, no, no, no. I'm not going for it.

[DJ Drama]

Don't worry about them.

[DJ Drama (continued) / Gucci Mane]

I'm not going for that one.

[DJ Drama]

No, no, no, no, no, no, no. You're out of pocket.

[DJ Drama (continued) / Gucci Mane]

But, you know, like, even like back to the tour, like, you know, it was a suit and tie affair. You know, it's people in the building that. That, you know, grew up listening to Jeezy at different points in their lives and, you know, went from whether it was elementary school or, you know, high school, college, and hustling or, you know, getting your degree or whatever, you know, now they're doctors, lawyers, you know, nurses, flight attendants, you know, right, Doing their thing, getting money. So it's like, you know, reminds you of a time of your life. And it's like, like, you know, it's no different than if you think about it like a Frank Sinatra or the ojs or something. It's just trap music. And, you know, we had a time in life, you know, listening to it. 20 years later, we're going to be listening to it 40 years later and, you know, God willing, 60 years later, you know what I'm saying? But, you know, to watch the way people react to that music and just the feeling that it gives them, it's like, it's special. It's not a lot of artists that can do that with an album that what Jeezy is able to do with the motivation.

[Co-host / Host]

Nah, that's a fact.

[DJ Drama]

I want to ask you this. Everybody talks about the mixtape you made. Obviously legendary, but you done made some fire albums, too. Is there a difference between making a mixtape and making an album?

[DJ Drama (continued) / Gucci Mane]

Yeah, absolutely. It's definitely a difference specifically for me personally because, you know, I'm more like a conductor than, you know, a typical artist. Like, so when, when I'm doing my mixtapes, you know what people know know me for my mixtapes. It's normally one individual artist and you know, I approached the album from a different standpoint, like trying to put together collaborations that people may not have seen before, you know, just make it more. It's about making a cohesive body of work that's with either form of them. But you know, me and my teen generation now like, you know, so we'll put in more of the work to, to get those albums done. Definitely a lot more clearances, paperwork and like that that has to get done on my side. So the business is a lot different per se is, you know, when I work on a mixtape, I'm, I'm normally almost coming in like an artist. So it's like a, you know, one off type thing situation for sure.

[DJ Drama]

I know we got to get out of here, but Pimp C, I know you got a couple slaps off that album people need to hear, man. Y' all know this is my second home. I really appreciate y' all coming out. Listen, we had a grand time. 5:20. We gonna keep turning up. We gonna keep doing what the we do be here and I don't know where he is, but he gonna continue to be a clown and dj. We gonna hold it down and we really appreciate y'. All love atl. We catch our opium tonight turn up. So listen, tonight we taking the after party.

[Greg Rosenthal]

We going to opium.

[DJ Drama]

But before you go out of here, I gotta remind you if you have a official meet and greet, stay in your seat. We gonna make that happen. As you exit the building, please get your 520 merch.

[Greg Rosenthal]

Shout out to DJ Drama.

[DJ Drama]

Shout out to Poor Mine.

[Greg Rosenthal]

Shout out to ISO Joe.

[DJ Drama]

Shout out to Roscoe Dash for holding us down tonight.

[Greg Rosenthal]

We in New York next week continue.

[DJ Drama]

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[DJ Drama (continued) / Gucci Mane]

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