Club 520 - K Camp on KISS albums, CRAZY story on "Cut Her Off" w/ 2 Chainz, music streaming

Summary

Club 520 Podcast – K Camp on KISS Albums, Crazy Story on “Cut Her Off” with 2 Chainz, and Music Streaming

Date: May 26, 2026
Hosts: DJ Wells, Bishop B Henn., Jeff Teague (not present in this episode)
Guest: K Camp
Producer: iHeartPodcasts & The Volume

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Episode Overview

This episode of Club 520 is a deep-dive with Atlanta rapper K Camp, known for hits like "Cut Her Off" and the long-running KISS series. The crew—DJ Wells and Bishop B—chop it up in Atlanta about K Camp’s journey from local talent to national chart presence, the realities of making music in the streaming era, the making of iconic tracks, crazy behind-the-scenes stories, and valuable industry game for up-and-coming artists. The tone is laid-back, funny, and honest, blending classic Atlanta nostalgia with insightful takes on music industry shifts.

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Key Topics and Discussion Points

1. Growing up Atlanta & Sports Talk

[04:24–09:23]

• K Camp recalls growing up in Atlanta, the old days of having ringtones, and the vibe of the city.
• Jokes about the pain of being a Falcons fan—especially the shock of their infamous Super Bowl loss ("The Falcons are going to be the Falcons... I pray for a better season", K Camp, 06:57).
• Nostalgia about how the city changed over the years: "I be going places, I don't know where the hell I'm at no more. The whole city changed, you know what I'm saying? The vibe changed, the clubs changed." (K Camp, 09:32)

2. K Camp’s Introduction to Music

[09:43–10:22]

• Originally a hooper, his shift to music happened after a high school ankle injury.
• “I was hooping first... broke my ankle my 12th grade year... I was already doing music with the partners... so I jumped in the music bag and I ain't look back.” (K Camp, 09:57)

3. The Birth and Evolution of the KISS Projects

[11:45–13:31]

• K Camp explains the creative origin of his Kiss mixtape series, initially crafted for female fans:
  • “I made a song for the females... females at school were eating that shit up. So I was like, let me just do a whole project for the females... I just kept dropping them. We 10 plus years on the Kiss project... the females, they gonna buy the record, they gonna make sure them venue filled up...” (K Camp, 12:01)
• Behind the song "Fall In Line": written about a girl actually in the studio with him that night.

4. Big Break and “Cut Her Off” Story

[13:46–18:59 | 24:40–26:24]

• K Camp discusses when he knew he “made it”—the first time he heard himself on the radio, even though he was “still broke.”
  • “When I first heard myself on the radio... I was like, okay, cool, some of that work done paid off. Now it's time to get some money.” (K Camp, 13:52)
• Hilarious, candid story behind “Cut Her Off”:
  • Written after waiting on a girl who stood him up at the studio.
  • “I had the lime-a-ritas, was vibed out... she never pulled up. So I'm mad, I slipped mad... I just kept repeating, ‘it ain't nothing to cut that off’... I played it for my partner and he was like, ‘what the…what is this!?’... that’s when I knew.” (K Camp, 24:40 & 25:48)
• On whether the girl ever knew it was about her: “Honestly bro, I swear to God, I don’t know who the girl was…if she would’ve walked by me today, I wouldn’t know.” (K Camp, 26:08)

5. Early Success & the Business Side

[26:52–29:30]

• On his first big purchases:
  • Didn’t blow his first checks frivolously, but did spend on “Sprinter for all my guys on the road” and big houses in LA.
  • “The money, I done f*cked it up... but it was just life expenses that start hitting.” (K Camp, 26:57)
• Insights into being signed to a major label (Interscope) versus going independent:
  • “When I finally went independent, I feel like my whole life changed. I got everything... my business was so right...” (K Camp, 28:17)

6. Music Streaming and the Modern Industry

[32:08–35:34]

• “It’s easy to make music now—it’s probably the easiest it’s ever been in music history…but is it easy to make money in music? No.” (K Camp, 32:16)
• On streaming payouts:
  • “1 million streams equal $4,000... if a million people listen to your music, you only get $4,000. Imagine if a million people listening got you a dollar—you’d be a millionaire.” (K Camp, 32:44)
• Practical advice:
  • “Learn your business... there are so many ways to get money in the industry... but you gotta have your business together…” (K Camp, 34:20)

7. Staying Relevant, Social Media, and Touring

[36:00–39:19]

• On strategies to stay relevant:
  • A blend of “behind the scenes” focus and knowing when to pop out (“Paris Fashion Week, Grammys, F1, all that... now the other part is like, let me get in front of you.” (K Camp, 36:47))
• On being hesitant about the fame side:
  • “I was against a lot of this for a long time, bro... anxiety bad, bro... I’m a private person, you might ask the wrong question, I might say something... that’s why I stayed away from it.” (K Camp, 37:09)
• How streaming data helps pick tour cities.
  • “It’s real strategic... not really bullshitting around, just popping up in a random-ass city... the data in the backend tells you where the fans at.” (K Camp, 38:20)

8. Mentorship and OG Status

[39:24–41:52]

• On working with new artists:
  • “When I was young, I was always trying to reach up... now I’m just trying to be the influence, the young OG for the new niggas... if I get on your song, it’s stamped.” (K Camp, 40:20)
• On protecting his creative process:
  • "A lot of niggas came around and just took pieces of a nigga and just put it on theirs... I'm real picky of who I let in my creative mix." (K Camp, 41:09)
• Making his own beats: “I make all my beats now... my next album produced by me fully.” (K Camp, 41:45)

9. Missed Opportunities & Ghostwriting Realities

[45:21–47:12]

• Song he regrets passing on: "Go Shorty Go" by Travis Porter.
  • “I was in the house of spins that day and they was recording... I could've torn that joint up." (K Camp, 45:44)
• On songwriting for others:
  • “It’s bad out here for some writers…You write a song, a hundred-dollar check if it blows up? It’s disgusting.” (K Camp, 47:12)
• "If you popping enough, you can charge up front…but if you just a writer, you gotta split that tiny royalty." (K Camp, 47:34)

10. Studio Life, Inspiration, and Creative Process

[50:00–54:15]

• In free time: goes to Hawks games, gun range, plays ball, works out at LA Fitness.
• Most songs recorded solo at home:
  • “Like 90% of them... I ain't want my partner hearing me sing... that was uncomfortable.” (K Camp, 52:32)
• On song inspiration and titles:
  • “Marilyn Monroe'—I never said ‘Marilyn’ in the song... made it about a girl in Magic City, needed a face, saw Marilyn on Google, it just stuck...” (K Camp, 53:05)

11. Advice for Up-and-Coming Artists

[51:01–52:19]

• "Get you a lawyer. Learn your business. Keep a creative team and genuine folks around you. Stay in the studio—one hit can change your life." (K Camp, 51:01)
• "Sometimes I just go in when I feel something, be intentional... when I do go, I know it’s gonna hit." (K Camp, 51:41)

12. Closing: New Projects & Atlanta Sports

[54:54–57:10]

• Hype for the Hawks season ("Hawks in five!"), reflections on being a season ticket holder.
• K Camp teases a new project dropping next month: “This is for the city... I can’t say who, but it’s coming.” (K Camp, 56:59)

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Notable Quotes

• On monetizing music today:
  “It’s easy to make music now, but is it easy to make money? No. 1 million streams equal about $4,000.” — K Camp (32:16)
• On writing “Cut Her Off”:
  “She never pulled up. So I'm mad... I just kept repeating 'it ain't nothing to cut that off.' Played it for my partner—he was like ‘what the... what is this!?’ That's when I knew.” — K Camp (25:48)
• On independence:
  “When I finally went independent, my whole life changed... my business was so right.” — K Camp (28:17)
• On new artists seeking features:
  “When I was young, I always tried to reach out... Now I’m just trying to be the influence, the young OG. If I get on your song, it's stamped.” — K Camp (40:20)
• Advice to artists:
  “Get you a lawyer. Learn your business. Keep you a creative team. One hit can change your life.” — K Camp (51:01)
• On missing out:
  "Go Shorty Go'... I could have tore it up. That’s the one that comes to mind. The rest? I don’t care, I had my clear." — K Camp (45:44)
• On recording solo:
  “My biggest songs, I recorded by myself... I ain’t want my partner hearing me sing with a room full of people, that’s uncomfortable.” — K Camp (52:31)

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Significant Timestamps

• 04:24 – Atlanta nostalgia, ringtone memories, and Falcons fandom woes
• 09:43 – K Camp’s start in music after hoop dreams end
• 12:01 – Creating the KISS series, appealing to female fans
• 13:46 – The “I made it” moment hearing himself on radio
• 24:40 – Full story behind “Cut Her Off”: studio, lime-a-ritas, and real-life heartbreak
• 32:16 – Cold realities of streaming economics
• 36:47 – Relevance and learning to embrace the spotlight
• 40:20 – On mentorship and the transition to being the influencer
• 45:21 – Missed opportunity: “Go Shorty Go”
• 51:01 – Essential advice for young artists
• 52:32 – K Camp’s preference for recording alone
• 56:59 – Tease for new, city-focused project dropping next month

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Memorable/Funny Moments

• K Camp buying lime-a-ritas at the gas station, waiting for a "freak" who never shows up, accidentally creating a hit (24:40–25:48).
• The whole room joking about splitting tiny streaming royalties and ghostwriting horror stories.
• Admission that "Marilyn Monroe" wasn’t about the icon, but a Magic City dancer (53:05).

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Final Thoughts

This Club 520 episode with K Camp is rich with Atlanta culture, music industry truth, and hilarious behind-the-music moments. K Camp is open about his grind, the game’s pitfalls, and how surviving the streaming era is about both creativity and business. Whether you’re an indie musician, a fan of the ATL scene, or just love real conversations behind hit records, this episode offers wisdom, laughs, and plenty of “you had to be there” vibes.

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[Guest K Camp]

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[Guest K Camp]

Of course. We all did. From Sydney.

[Host DJ Wells]

What was your ringtone?

[Guest K Camp]

The church, the ringtone. What was the ringtone for the church?

[Host DJ Wells]

Yeah, you still the side button now. I used to play the jams on there too.

[Co-host Bishop B]

A lot of songs. You put whatever on there.

[Guest K Camp]

Oh yeah, yeah, I got some. I had some tc. I had some underground on my ringtone.

[Host DJ Wells]

Okay.

[Guest K Camp]

Yeah, I probably don't know about him.

[Host DJ Wells]

Damn ringtone area. That's a long time.

[Guest K Camp]

Yeah, I've been here my whole life for sure, man.

[Host DJ Wells]

Tap me with the Boost him Shout out to Hard Rock BET be here. Playoff topic. Go get this money. If you had to put some Chicken down. Who the champs right now? Out the east and the West. Be here. Who you rolling with? Future bets, baby.

[Co-host Bishop B]

Cleveland and OKC out the gate. I'll let him put a thousand on him, man.

[Host DJ Wells]

Oh, put a stack on him.

[Co-host Bishop B]

Put a stack on him, huh? Oh, on both of them. You can bet for both of them to go to the final.

[Guest K Camp]

Oh, yeah, okay. Yeah, okay. See strong, though.

[Host DJ Wells]

Now. Are you a betting man? You know what I'm saying? Do you tattoo with the sports game? Okay, so it's one of your best licks you ever got off the parlays or the. Or the gamma or something. You saw I had two descents, bro.

[Guest K Camp]

Probably like two bands on some prize pick shit.

[Co-host Bishop B]

Okay, okay. I should have.

[Host DJ Wells]

You want to do hard rock? Yeah, but shout out to Hard Rock, baby. Baby, use them eyes. Tag teams. Love520. No, no vibes for sure, man. I guess keeping us fresh as well. I'm your host. My name is D.J. wells, man. Like we said in the a special guest. Introduce him last as usual. To my far left, we got my dog, Bishop B. Hitting out the pearlies. How you What? Nasty.

[Co-host Bishop B]

Cool and nasty. Glad to be in Atlanta, baby. Let's get to it.

[Host DJ Wells]

Okay, man. Yeah, the vibe's a little bit different here, man. We in the master suite, you know what I'm saying? Shout out to Freaky Mike, man. Appreciate you putting us up in your room, man. That's right.

[Co-host Bishop B]

That's right. Yeah.

[Host DJ Wells]

No, this is a B. Henness room.

[Co-host Bishop B]

Oh, that wouldn't be charged somebody so bad, boy.

[Guest K Camp]

Swear.

[Co-host Bishop B]

Never seen a want to be another so bad damn police ass, man.

[Host DJ Wells]

Right? My dog Young Nacho Young Tea you got. You what? And jealous because I'm in Jim Popping be here got a suite, you know.

[Co-host Bishop B]

You know what I mean? Should nice. We could have shot it anywhere when we chose to fall right here.

[Host DJ Wells]

Oh, that's crazy. I ain't gonna lie. I got my room. I had to go downstair. I said, hey, I know y' all didn't clean this. Boy, it was a hoop session in my room before I checked in, boy. It was makeup sayings all over the wall. I said, baby girl did not get dressed right here. Well, like we said, man. And ATL's only right where I wanted to find some Atlanta, Georgia, man. We've been waiting for this episode a long time. Be here. We finally got him in, man. Mr. K. Camp in the building. Big dog. Appreciate you sliding on us, man.

[Guest K Camp]

Y' all man. Appreciate y' all trying to tell you how y' all Doing, man?

[Host DJ Wells]

Man, we good, man. How you feeling, man?

[Guest K Camp]

Can't complain another day, man. Get into it. We outside tonight, though.

[Host DJ Wells]

Oh, yeah. Talk about it. Listen a lot to talk about it. Since you grew up in Atlanta, obviously you were Falcons and Hawks fan, right?

[Guest K Camp]

Sure, for sure.

[Host DJ Wells]

So how you feeling about the Falcons getting to it, man. The Falcons? Yeah. How you feel about the Falcons?

[Guest K Camp]

The Falcons are going to be the Falcons.

[Host DJ Wells]

You know what I'm saying?

[Guest K Camp]

I pray. I pray for a better season, you know what I'm saying? I got. I got a lot of love for the Falcons, though, but we trying to figure it out.

[Host DJ Wells]

It's crazy every time we bring up the Falcons in the city. Niggas whole vibe like it's like a funeral. You find a nigga, this feel like it's on time.

[Guest K Camp]

Ain't gonna lie to you. You feel like it's on time.

[Co-host Bishop B]

He'd be living in a stadium, though. Though it be lit, it might not

[Guest K Camp]

stay in the show. You going to have some fun. You going to have some fun? For sure.

[Co-host Bishop B]

Sheldon took me to a couple of them football games. It'd be lit. Feel like a day for me lit.

[Host DJ Wells]

Be cold on. Oh, yeah. You get a little tricky, man.

[Co-host Bishop B]

Well, y' all sad in the. But are you. Are you a Falcons or is that one of your teams?

[Host DJ Wells]

Yeah, that was one of my teams. I done retired them.

[Co-host Bishop B]

Retired?

[Guest K Camp]

Who you?

[Host DJ Wells]

Yeah, I'm back. I'm back with the 40 with the Falcons.

[Guest K Camp]

You said what?

[Host DJ Wells]

Ask him when he quit the Falcons

[Guest K Camp]

and you quit the Falcon game when

[Host DJ Wells]

they lost the Super Bowl. So when we was up and I had booked my ticket for the Magic city float.

[Guest K Camp]

I remember that too. You.

[Co-host Bishop B]

You had money on that account.

[Guest K Camp]

I think we all did, so.

[Host DJ Wells]

I think we all did.

[Co-host Bishop B]

It was that super bowl party was an A, man.

[Guest K Camp]

I had a party at the crib that was disappointing.

[Host DJ Wells]

You had a. Yeah, was probably getting

[Guest K Camp]

drunk standing on table.

[Host DJ Wells]

We were going crazy. Oh, niggas was like grease today, right on the last. I bought a ticket to fly back to Atlanta and go to the party

[Co-host Bishop B]

that might be the toughest l ever for the city.

[Guest K Camp]

No, for sure. Well, that's the types of one that stain the most.

[Co-host Bishop B]

Nah, for sure. For sure.

[Host DJ Wells]

I ain't gonna lie, man. I didn't Martin everybody. Get the hell out of my house. I'm mad, bro. We just blew the super bowl, bro.

[Guest K Camp]

For sure. We still return even though they lie. We still would turn, though, like you said.

[Host DJ Wells]

Yeah, I see it on shut down, but I remember Covid. Boy, y' all in Houston. Y' all didn't give a damn about that. It was still up for the city. Atlanta. Hell, Atlanta never cared.

[Guest K Camp]

We used to. It used to what we used to got there going crazy. We win or lose. My CO Belt. No, no, no. Hell no, Hel. We trying to get ants, too.

[Co-host Bishop B]

For sure now.

[Host DJ Wells]

See, you talked about. He said, even though, you know what I'm saying, The teams weren't that good. The vibes were still high. Boy, them old hog seasons, boy, before y' all turned up. Yeah, we made to the playoffs. Talk about they didn't give a.

[Guest K Camp]

The Martin was there.

[Host DJ Wells]

Yeah.

[Guest K Camp]

Yeah.

[Host DJ Wells]

He went to the playoffs trying to get haircuts upstairs, man. It was. Oh, no. The. The games is always involved. They do not care about the actual game to the playoffs, but that's always a good team.

[Guest K Camp]

He had a turn, too.

[Host DJ Wells]

Hell, yeah. All right, man. Growing up at atl, man, I want to ask you a question. What's it like seeing the city now? What it is when you was growing up? Is it a big difference?

[Guest K Camp]

A big difference? Yeah, for sure. You know what I'm saying? As far as I'm from the city, you know what I'm saying? I've been here my whole life, and I'll be going places. I don't know where the hell I'm at no more.

[Host DJ Wells]

Damn.

[Guest K Camp]

I swear to God. The whole city changed, you know what I'm saying? The vibe change, the club change.

[Host DJ Wells]

It's still.

[Guest K Camp]

Emotionally still, you know what I'm saying? A great environment, thrive in, you know, but, you know, everything changed.

[Co-host Bishop B]

How you getting introduced to music? Was that your first love? Did you hoop play football anymore? Okay.

[Host DJ Wells]

Would you like that?

[Guest K Camp]

I was like, my mind, everybody, everybody, they like that in their mind.

[Host DJ Wells]

He good. He satisfies,

[Guest K Camp]

you know what I'm saying? I was hooping first. I actually broke my ankle my 12th grade year, summer league game. And then I, you know what I'm saying? I was already doing the music, you know what I'm saying, with the partners and. Yeah. And I ain't had nothing else. The hoop was the only thing I knew. So I just, you know, saying, jumped in the music bag and I ain't stopped. I ain't look back.

[Co-host Bishop B]

You had some offers or something?

[Guest K Camp]

Hell, no.

[Co-host Bishop B]

Oh, okay.

[Guest K Camp]

I mean, in my mind, I was like that.

[Host DJ Wells]

He.

[Co-host Bishop B]

For the love of the game, love

[Guest K Camp]

of the guy, you know what I'm saying? You was cool about the whole shit. Yeah.

[Host DJ Wells]

What's your hoop game like, man? He was like behemoth.

[Co-host Bishop B]

Oh, no, he wasn't he didn't play big. Kim was probably a pg.

[Guest K Camp]

Oh, God. He wasn't.

[Host DJ Wells]

No, he was a big.

[Co-host Bishop B]

Yeah, I was a point guard in center. Yeah, yeah, bro.

[Host DJ Wells]

Hell, and then he gave him the

[Co-host Bishop B]

wrist with a screen set.

[Guest K Camp]

Screen.

[Co-host Bishop B]

You know, screen. Open road. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Guest K Camp]

Me.

[Host DJ Wells]

Every time you explain you being the stretch for. It's funny as fuck.

[Co-host Bishop B]

Cause he be hating on me, bro.

[Host DJ Wells]

Yeah, it's funny because I really seen you play basketball in high school, though. That's why it's funny.

[Guest K Camp]

Where you from?

[Co-host Bishop B]

Indianapolis.

[Guest K Camp]

Indianapolis.

[Co-host Bishop B]

Yeah, I used to. We all play Pike. Okay. Nigga, they my freshman year. Pike beat us 83 to 30.

[Guest K Camp]

God damn. Well, who probably was on him?

[Co-host Bishop B]

Nah, he wasn't in high school. He was at eighth grade.

[Host DJ Wells]

I went to the game.

[Co-host Bishop B]

He was in eighth grade. Robert Vaden is probably one of the greatest high school basketball players I ever seen in my life. They had a college basketball team, Indiana basketball, different. Like, I don't know if basketball. Basketball probably big down here too, but like, we. Everything is basketball up there, bro. So these niggas on my mama, they could have beat a small D1 school back in time. That's a fact.

[Host DJ Wells]

Seven D1 player.

[Co-host Bishop B]

Yeah, for sure. For sure.

[Guest K Camp]

Yeah, man.

[Host DJ Wells]

How y' all feel about football is how we feel about basketball, period.

[Guest K Camp]

Yeah.

[Host DJ Wells]

Is that real?

[Guest K Camp]

You from out there too?

[Host DJ Wells]

No, I'm from Indianapolis.

[Guest K Camp]

Okay, okay.

[Co-host Bishop B]

Okay, man, I want to talk to you about them Kiss tapes, man. How'd that come about, man? Classics, bro.

[Guest K Camp]

What you.

[Co-host Bishop B]

I said the first one. Yeah. I want to know how it started.

[Guest K Camp]

Oh, how the first one started, bro, I think I was just trying to find my sound at that time.

[Co-host Bishop B]

Yeah.

[Guest K Camp]

And you know, when you. When you. When you're a new artist, you always trying to find that sound. I think I made a song for the females one time in the. In the, you know, females at school with eating that shit up. So I was like, let me just do a whole project for the female shit, you know what I'm saying? I named the kids. I think the original name was like, keep it so sexy. Some cheesy ass shit like that. You know what I'm saying? Keep it something like that. And I put it out and it got great feedback and I just kept dropping them, you know what I'm saying? We 10 plus years on the Kiss project. I just dropped the Kiss 6 last year. Went on tour with that same thing. So that shit just stuck, bro. And the female, they gonna buy the record. They gonna. They gonna buy everything up. They gonna make sure them venue filled up, you know what I'm saying? So when I, you know, when I caught wind of that, I just kept going with this.

[Host DJ Wells]

That fall in line.

[Guest K Camp]

My. That fall in line, man. What. That'd be hard. I made it by that girl that was in the studio that same day. I was talking about her. She was. I'm recording. She in the lines and she getting a nervous only like. Cause you gotta follow the line. So I'm talking about. I'm talking about her. I shot there, you know what I'm saying? I swear to God. I swear to God. That was too raw.

[Co-host Bishop B]

Finally told her fall in line to you.

[Host DJ Wells]

So I got married.

[Co-host Bishop B]

Major pain.

[Guest K Camp]

I'm in line.

[Co-host Bishop B]

Nah, Marilyn Monroe is my. Yeah, that's the one. I made my one.

[Guest K Camp]

It's made one of my top.

[Co-host Bishop B]

I made my last baby today. So science here because. Because, you know, I mean that hard and legendary godfather. No, for sure, for sure. When did you feel like you like cracked the seal like in the music game?

[Host DJ Wells]

The feeling is crazy. We here. But he finally. Now he here. He finally.

[Co-host Bishop B]

That's why he laughing. Yeah, he waste the show. He know you listen to his family.

[Host DJ Wells]

He said f decision. Can I say breakthrough doesn't even work.

[Co-host Bishop B]

When did you feel like you made it?

[Guest K Camp]

When I feel like I made it.

[Host DJ Wells]

Here we go.

[Guest K Camp]

Ammo appropriate for the time.

[Host DJ Wells]

I don't even cover requirements for the

[Guest K Camp]

time, you know what I'm saying? But now I feel like the first time I heard myself on the radio, dog, you know what I'm saying? Because before I heard myself on the radio, we was outside four, five times a week in the clubs, you know what I'm saying? Going down to Alabama, north, the Carolinas, you know what I'm saying? Running around this shit just outside. And when I first heard myself on the radio, I was like, okay, cool. Like some of that work done paid off. Now it's time to get some money. Because when I heard myself on the radio, I was still broke. So I had to figure out, okay, cool. Outside of my neighborhood, know me outside of Mary. You know what I'm saying, Carl? Mary, they know me. Madison, find out how to really get some money out of this shit.

[Co-host Bishop B]

Was it cut her off?

[Guest K Camp]

No, it was something called all night.

[Co-host Bishop B]

Oh, okay.

[Guest K Camp]

It's called Porter all night. It's around the same time Walker Oled do it. And Travis Porter all the way to early.

[Co-host Bishop B]

That's number 2010, right?

[Guest K Camp]

Yeah, 20. Shit, you might be right.

[Host DJ Wells]

Each year different 2010. I got here in 09. He was like 20.

[Guest K Camp]

God damn.

[Co-host Bishop B]

Don't you watch that? You been in the game for a while.

[Guest K Camp]

Real, real. Still in it, still doing it, still thriving.

[Co-host Bishop B]

Oh, that's hard.

[Guest K Camp]

You know what I'm saying? So, yeah, I think that was around his first time.

[Co-host Bishop B]

Do you still perform some of them customs for your core.

[Guest K Camp]

Not them, not them, not them.

[Co-host Bishop B]

Not even money. You don't perform?

[Guest K Camp]

No, no money, baby. For sure. Money, baby. Cut off all that. All that classic. For sure. Oh yeah. I can't do a show without doing that, you understand? But far like all n. Not everything but like. Like for example, my last tour is Kiss 6 toy, you know what I'm saying? How my drop. So you got to be mindful like they coming for that album. So you know what I'm saying? I can't just be doing all the old shit. So I try to sprinkle it in just to keep that, you know what I'm saying? That feel.

[Co-host Bishop B]

But yeah, that's what I always wanted to wonder. I mean, wanted to ask artists too, like, yeah, y' all named the. You know what I mean? The tour from the tape or the album? Yeah, but how is that process work? Cause you gotta.

[Guest K Camp]

You gotta do something.

[Host DJ Wells]

Gotta play the slam, gotta play the song.

[Co-host Bishop B]

I love the tape. Yeah, but I got my bitch.

[Guest K Camp]

You got to.

[Co-host Bishop B]

I'm trying to relive that merely.

[Guest K Camp]

Exactly. And that would I be thinking about here. For real. Hey, when I do that song. But they act like that brand new every time I perform. That I got, man, I got coming on my shoulders, bro.

[Co-host Bishop B]

My cousin went to your one. I think he was in Chicago. We was Chicago. I was with these working in Chicago.

[Host DJ Wells]

We were loaded.

[Co-host Bishop B]

Yeah, bro. He told me it was a good ass tone. They really got an intimate setting in your shit. For sure.

[Host DJ Wells]

You talk about, you know what I'm saying, people, especially women, you know what I'm saying? By the records and support, which I like knowing that you have such a strong fan base like them. Because you look at any TikTok, any social media reel, bro. Yeah, bro, they fucking with your music. You the soundtrack for a lot of shit, for sure.

[Guest K Camp]

It's crazy because when I first like really got into that, I ain't really want to do the song for the female, you know what I'm saying? I thought that shit was just like, nah. Cause that was my vibe. That wasn't the niggas I was around. They wasn't on there. Everybody listening to Young Ralph Dolph, you know, everything trapped out. So you know, when I kind of start leaning toward the female records. Them niggas ain't want to hear that shit, you know what I'm saying? So I was like, I shouldn't get with it. But like I said when I tapped in with the Kiss projects, not in the reaction got from the fans. And you know what I'm saying, When I try to, like, lean towards another side, they be like, man, drop that Kiss. Drop the shit from the feet. You know what I'm saying? So I was like, okay. I ain't gonna just ignore this shit. Cause if this is what they want, I'm gonna have to give it to them. So that turned into, like, you know what I'm saying? A decade worth of vibes, bro.

[Host DJ Wells]

Do it for, like, two different careers or two different audience or two different creation processes. When you're doing music that you want to do in the catered show.

[Guest K Camp]

100%. I got some dropping this Monday. It's super hard. I can't. Yeah, I can't tell y' all who's with, but I'm popping the whole project. It really ain't no. Yeah. You know, I'm be vigging me popping for the city. I think it was just time for it. It's about to be summertime.

[Host DJ Wells]

Yeah.

[Guest K Camp]

I'm saying the energy up, you know what I'm saying? Life good. You know what I'm saying? I'm pretty sure y'.

[Co-host Bishop B]

All.

[Guest K Camp]

Life is good. Y' all doing fly on the Internet every day. You know what I'm saying? Doing y', all. You know what I'm saying, y', all. You know what I'm saying? We're trying to get out, you know what I'm saying? We all working, you know what I'm saying? So it's just time to just have fun with it. This.

[Host DJ Wells]

Oh, yeah. I got a question, man. What was going on in the studio when you said, ain't nothing to cut that out.

[Co-host Bishop B]

Like, what happened? What. What's the vibes in the.

[Host DJ Wells]

What she do?

[Guest K Camp]

Same type of bro.

[Host DJ Wells]

Fall in line, cuz. If you fall, I need to know the back.

[Guest K Camp]

All these songs, bro. I swear to God, all these songs is. Is something that happened, you know what I'm saying? I don't think I got one song out there that something ain't happened with that situation. Like, you feel me? But I was just some. Just some young man. I was what cut off. Came out 20, 13, 14. So I was about, like, 22, 23.

[Host DJ Wells]

Yeah.

[Guest K Camp]

You know what I'm saying? That's when I stayed with my Manager. We was on Thorn Road. He had a big ass crib. And so, you know, I had a little. I had my own room and I had a studio room and soldier one and a day, you know what I'm saying? Another studio day. I had met this little freak that weekend in the club. Yo, she says, you know what I'm saying? What you want with you on the weekend? I told her I was on that weekend. I'm in the studio, but pull up that vibe out. So you know what I'm saying, As a young. We know how we was as young. We got to get some play, you know what I'm saying? Loaded, getting drank, get everything, you know what I'm saying? You're going to set the vibe, right? Absolutely. So I'm turned waiting for her, you know what I'm saying? She told me she on the way. I got the lime maritas. I ain't went to the gas station across the street. Freaking camp. I know you don't freaking camp.

[Host DJ Wells]

Was it flavor?

[Guest K Camp]

It was the green ones. Check this out though. This is before the flavors came out. When I dropped the song that. When they dropped the flavors. Yeah.

[Co-host Bishop B]

That's when the strawberry, strawberry, strawberry drop

[Host DJ Wells]

down the court orders. Oh, no. The Lamborghini is undefeated.

[Guest K Camp]

No, you said the cold waters. I just had one for the first time the other day.

[Co-host Bishop B]

The cold water don't get no hangover.

[Guest K Camp]

That La Marina hate you risk it at all, boy.

[Co-host Bishop B]

Can't mix nothing with that. Yeah, yeah, for sure.

[Host DJ Wells]

That's never like the 4 loco, but

[Guest K Camp]

I was about to say 4 logos too. We was on all that.

[Co-host Bishop B]

Damn. L is crazy.

[Host DJ Wells]

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[Guest K Camp]

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[Guest K Camp]

Long story short man, I had already got down just drunk to the line, really getting ready for the business, you know what I'm saying? Had a little hand so I'm vibed out, waiting for her like someone. She comes, it's up, you know what I'm saying?

[Co-host Bishop B]

Respect.

[Guest K Camp]

So she kept me down. She never pulled up. She never pulled up. Dang. I'm still in the studio. I'm still having a folder full of beats Yeah, I pull up with Lefou. It ain't nothing to cut that out. I just kept repeating that I'm mad. I slipped mad because.

[Co-host Bishop B]

Oh, God,

[Guest K Camp]

you feel me? I ain't trying to be too cool for this. I was sleep. Hey, you know, I was like, God damn. The big Cut me down. So I want to mic. It ain't nothing, you know, I'm like, oh, this shit kind of hard. Cause I'm feeling like it. You know what I'm saying? Recording if I'm feeling it. And I'm like, oh, this shit actually making me feel something. You know what I'm saying? And I just kept going. And I played it for my. I think it was one of my partners. And he was like, what the. What the is this? And when I. Every time I play something with somebody, one of my. My, like key factors. But I'm doing music, I might say we just chopping it up. Yeah, I might let the song play in the background. I might just play, you know what I'm saying? Just a slick. Just to catch a reaction. If I get that reaction I'm looking for, I already.

[Co-host Bishop B]

That's how I know that's the one. Okay, okay, so cut her off. Sent you through there.

[Guest K Camp]

Send me through there. Shout out to her, man, she got me paid. Do it again.

[Host DJ Wells]

Do know somebody cap me down.

[Co-host Bishop B]

So for sure. Did she know that was about her? Like, bro, I don't know.

[Guest K Camp]

I didn't say in the interviews. But honestly, bro, I can. I swear to God, I don't know

[Host DJ Wells]

who the girl was.

[Guest K Camp]

I don't know. I do not. If she would have walked by me today, I would keep on her voice, know who she was.

[Host DJ Wells]

He said, you ain't getting none of these worlds. Don't treat your body that.

[Co-host Bishop B]

So did you hit her? Like, where you at? Were you. You're still coming?

[Guest K Camp]

Nah, I ain't one of them type. I ain't gonna. I ain't gonna just flood you. Like, if it's over, it's over.

[Co-host Bishop B]

Well, I'm saying, when did you know she wasn't pulling up?

[Guest K Camp]

Which was around like 45 minute pass.

[Host DJ Wells]

Oh, yeah, she now pulling up.

[Guest K Camp]

I'm really kicking in. I'm like, what is this? That one? I was like, okay, she. She playing. She playing now. Like, the last time I talked to her.

[Host DJ Wells]

Be here. Dpu he get wicked, man, for sure. I'm telling you. That's the song that got, you know what I'm saying, cracking. What was that? First purchase like that first crazy. All right, I got it now I'm gonna do what I always wanted to do.

[Co-host Bishop B]

Yeah.

[Guest K Camp]

To be honest, Brian, really blow my check when I. When I got it on, bro.

[Co-host Bishop B]

Smart, man.

[Guest K Camp]

You know what I'm saying? But I. The money, I don't get twisted. I it up. I think the biggest purchase I made was my sprinter because I want all my guys going on the road and, and, and cribs in LA. 16, 000amonth rent, 20. You know, I was damn it up. That's how I was fucking it up. I wasn't like just, you know, I buy clothes, you know what I'm saying? I got a Porsche and shit. Like, you know, that was on my vision board and at the time. But I ain't really just my bag up. I think just life expenses kind of like start hitting that well.

[Co-host Bishop B]

So you was. You were signed?

[Guest K Camp]

Yeah, to Interscope.

[Co-host Bishop B]

Okay.

[Guest K Camp]

I was signing Interscope. I went independent in 2022.

[Co-host Bishop B]

So that was after the song came out. And you got some traction or you signed before, Cut her off came out.

[Guest K Camp]

It was money baby first. Money baby was before cutting off.

[Co-host Bishop B]

Yeah.

[Guest K Camp]

No, actually it was do it with Michael Montana.

[Host DJ Wells]

Yeah, that right.

[Co-host Bishop B]

Yeah, that was in Atlanta.

[Guest K Camp]

Boy, I dropped 200, baby. I was, I was catching traction in the city. Like, that's when the labels got you, you know what I'm saying? But I already had cut her off. So I leaked, cut her off, and then it went up. But the label was already trying to sign me, so that's how I ended up being like a Interscope situation. Cause, you know, they gone. It was the best label in the game at the time. They still one of the top labels. Yeah.

[Co-host Bishop B]

I wanna ask, like, just get some game. Like, what's the difference between your opinion between staying independent and signing to a label when you first starting out?

[Guest K Camp]

When you first starting out.

[Co-host Bishop B]

Yeah. Should you go get the bag and bet on yourself?

[Guest K Camp]

That's what you gotta do with everything, for real. But I feel like everybody's situation kind of different, bro. Because when I first got signed and we all started independent, when I first got signed, yeah, that was, that was life to me, you know what I'm saying? Cause I wanted to sign Interscope my whole career, you feel me? So. But when I got signed, you know what I'm saying, You go through the trials and tribulations of it, you know what I'm saying? Of course I got fame from it. I got money from it. But then I got stuck in a situation that wasn't working for me, you know what I'm Saying in the long run. So when I finally went independent, I feel like my whole life changed. I got everything, you know what I'm saying? My business was so. I can't really. People ask me that shit all the time. Do what works for you. You know what I'm saying? If you win a contract with a major, all majors ain't gonna fuck you over. You know what I'm saying? If you know your. If you know your. Your agreements and your terms. So I signed young bro. You know what I'm saying? And I ain't no shit. I just wanted some money. I just wanted to be in the studio and get drunk and you know what I'm saying? Therefore, I don't know how much I can say on it.

[Co-host Bishop B]

No, you can. This is anything this motherfucker be to your uncle.

[Guest K Camp]

Okay.

[Host DJ Wells]

Okay, cool.

[Guest K Camp]

You know what I'm saying? And hoes and like, that's the only thing I wanted to do.

[Co-host Bishop B]

Yeah, for sure. That's real.

[Guest K Camp]

You know. That's how this came about.

[Host DJ Wells]

Let me ask you this, because you said you bough sprinter where all your guys can travel with you. Yeah. As you gotten older, is your entourage still that big show with. It's all right.

[Guest K Camp]

I remember that. I think we all remember that.

[Host DJ Wells]

I remember that. That should start costing.

[Guest K Camp]

And that started costing life start happening. You know what I'm saying? Friendships ain't friendships no more. Like, man, it's a lot that come with that, bro.

[Host DJ Wells]

Boy, that start costing you eight hotel room, man. What? Let me go and get this.

[Guest K Camp]

I'm trying to tell you like security, cameraman, dj, that's all I need.

[Co-host Bishop B]

I mean, when y' all realize that's too much though.

[Host DJ Wells]

Like, when you see that check and

[Guest K Camp]

that boys come in shit getting thin. You see. Let me see the account go down

[Co-host Bishop B]

a little further value to you know what I mean?

[Host DJ Wells]

Cause he like to be real. I don't know for me, but like, you bought a big house. If you got the house in LA for 16,000amonth. Cause your guy's gonna be with you, hear me? Yeah. So you like. They having a good ass time. And my check keep going down. They ain't worried about they laying on the couch eating Cheetos.

[Co-host Bishop B]

And not for real.

[Host DJ Wells]

You start looking like, man, all that

[Guest K Camp]

light bulbs are going off.

[Host DJ Wells]

It is like you working for other people at that point. After. Yeah, they enjoy the fruitsy.

[Guest K Camp]

And this don't last forever. You know what I'm saying?

[Host DJ Wells]

That's a fact.

[Guest K Camp]

But you don't know that during that time, you Just trying to live. Cause yeah, usually fun, this type of life, your whole life when you get in and you just like, fuck it. But then you're like, hold on.

[Co-host Bishop B]

Did you have a moment where shit slowed all the way down?

[Guest K Camp]

Hell yeah, I had one of the moments. I was living in Alpharetto in another big ass house doing the same shit I was doing, you know what I'm saying? Didn't learn my lesson, you know what I'm saying? And my mama was helping with the management and doing my finances at one point and she, you know what I'm saying, Hit me with a reality check. Like, if you keep this shit up, you gonna be in trouble for sure. And that one I just tightened up. We had two bank accounts. I told her the money that I had in this account, make sure the bills pay. I'm gonna take this account and I'm gonna do what I gotta do. And I did what I had to do. Yeah, out the Garrett this shit back up, you know what I'm saying? The M's is back.

[Host DJ Wells]

Yes, sir. They rolled us.

[Guest K Camp]

It's back in action game.

[Host DJ Wells]

Shout out the money, baby. Like you said, I'm a car dude. So I gotta ask, what Porsche did you grab?

[Guest K Camp]

Panamera. Panamera. I had that on my vision board for a long time. So I just bought this shit cash too. I was like, oh, damn.

[Host DJ Wells]

Think alike, bruh. Out the gas.

[Co-host Bishop B]

Mine was a 911.

[Host DJ Wells]

Yeah, I had that on the Vis.

[Co-host Bishop B]

How much?

[Guest K Camp]

Don't call this here, man.

[Co-host Bishop B]

What's it called?

[Host DJ Wells]

I wanted to ask with the streaming area, obviously the way the things in music is pushed out now, is it easier to make music or is it harder to make music?

[Guest K Camp]

No, it's easy to make music. It's probably the easiest it's ever been in. In music history right now. But is it easy to make money in music? No. You know what I'm saying? I don't know if y' all know too much about like the streaming business, but just, you know what I'm saying, Just how the royalty rates and the percentage artists get on their own records. It's just. What is it depending on a dollar? Huh?

[Co-host Bishop B]

That's what I'm saying. What is how many streams do you have to give for us to get a dollar?

[Guest K Camp]

Before she instreams on. I want to say Apple. I don't want to get it wrong. Either Apple or Spotify mainstream equal $4,000. So if a million people listen to your music, you only get $4,000. Imagine if a million people listen to your music and get you a dollar, you're a millionaire.

[Host DJ Wells]

Yeah, that's a fact.

[Guest K Camp]

You get what I'm saying? So the math don't really be math. And so if you're a new artist in the game trying to, you know, make some money, it's going to take you longer. Cause nobody know you, so they're not listening unless you're going hand in hand, direct consumer saying, hey, this $10, this $10. And you making your money just right there. So. Or you gotta be established, you know what I'm saying? Like a torn. You gotta be a torn artist. You know what I'm saying? You gotta sell tickets and people gotta like, yeah, hard tickets and people gotta like your music.

[Host DJ Wells]

You gotta have it like, just like one song. Cause I know like you drop an album, so it's like $4,000 for one song. Like if you listen to one song a million times.

[Guest K Camp]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So that can add up. Yeah, that's still a million strings on 10 songs being here. The question playing a lot of money, Not a lot of money.

[Host DJ Wells]

Yeah, I'm gonna say it ain't too far.

[Guest K Camp]

Y' all got the same numbers like that on podcast.

[Host DJ Wells]

Oh, yeah. But YouTube, it's a little bit better.

[Co-host Bishop B]

Just.

[Host DJ Wells]

It's all about timing, I would say, for YouTube. Because if you catch it at a right stride, like, say something like a Shannon sharpen, hit me with cat win. Yeah. When you catch a stride like that, yeah, the ads and revenue, that. That price goes facts. You and everybody algorithm, you supersede and everything.

[Guest K Camp]

Facts, facts, facts.

[Host DJ Wells]

Behin asks a million dollar question is like, what's the cost of streaming? It's like they made the shit up.

[Guest K Camp]

That's what I said.

[Host DJ Wells]

It was the crazy part. They made this up.

[Guest K Camp]

Fake ass. They just put together and we got to buy it.

[Co-host Bishop B]

But that's. That's tough, especially as a rapper. I'll be on tour, nigga, every day.

[Guest K Camp]

The thing is, as an artist, though, you know what I'm saying? I'll be telling these niggas this all the time, these interviews, learn your business, you know what I'm saying? There's so many ways to get money in the industry, you know what I'm saying? Or music industry. It's multiple income streams from YouTube. So many platforms that you can pull the money from. And it's not just streaming, you know what I'm saying? So all artists should understand, just get your business together and you can leverage, get your credit shit together. Go get a loan. You know what I'm saying if you really want to. It's ways around money. If you tighten up your business, if you just out here just. Just doing bullshit, which we all did. I'm a bit the mud. But when I tightened up, the money tightened up too.

[Host DJ Wells]

That's interesting. I've seen somebody talk, I forgot who it was, but shout out to them. They were just like the independent artists. Now look like the wealthier artists compared to the people that signed because they have so much control. They doing hand to hand sales. They might sell 20,000 copies of their CD. But that's directly consumer different story.

[Guest K Camp]

Yeah, Russell just pulled something like that, you know what I'm saying? Like he made what, 100 and something thousand on it? He did something I ain't really pay. I seen it like a little clip up.

[Co-host Bishop B]

But yeah, he did.

[Guest K Camp]

He independent as a. Well now he with ROC Nation. But that possible if you, if you

[Co-host Bishop B]

in the backyard with that, you feel me?

[Guest K Camp]

If you got a fan base, bro, if you talking to your people and if they really with you, they gonna, they gonna, they gonna spend with you.

[Co-host Bishop B]

Turn on the market too.

[Guest K Camp]

Yeah, depending on the market.

[Co-host Bishop B]

Goddamn it. Get well sued for sure. But I'm saying if you in Cali, you damn near. Yeah, well game. But if you in Cali, you don't gotta come all the way over here to, you know, nab and where we are. So you can the whole state up. Exactly. You run up a bag, bro.

[Host DJ Wells]

Mailbox money, bro. All the people to pride the fake campaign that was there early on, that was very, very flourishing.

[Co-host Bishop B]

What's some stuff that you do to stay relevant though, to keep you, you know, I mean, in the mix? Do you use social media or do you pop out?

[Guest K Camp]

Okay, you know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? For a long time I was behind the scene, bro. I was really just a studio rat. I'm still a studio rat. But yeah, I ain't damn about the other side of the business, like the fame side. I just wanted to get paid, do my. And you know what I'm saying? But as far as to stay relevant, you know, pr. I like learning the business. Like have my PR make sure I'm at Paris Fashion Week, make sure I'm the Grammys big, you know, all these, you know, F1, all this that everybody be at, you know what I'm saying? You pop out, you know what I'm saying? Because I'm always do my shit like, you know, home base. I'm gonna make sure I'm working My shit, I'm giving that product out. You know what I'm saying? I'm gonna do my part, but now the other part is like, all right, let me get in front of you.

[Co-host Bishop B]

You didn't do your this shit.

[Guest K Camp]

Yeah, I'm scared

[Co-host Bishop B]

we'll turn you up.

[Guest K Camp]

You know what I'm saying?

[Host DJ Wells]

Exactly.

[Guest K Camp]

You know what I'm saying? I was against a lot of this for a long time, bro.

[Co-host Bishop B]

We know.

[Guest K Camp]

I was against.

[Co-host Bishop B]

Are you. Why you. Why you? Why you was against it, bro? We know. We don't.

[Host DJ Wells]

Now we can fucking happen. Oh, God.

[Guest K Camp]

You said what?

[Host DJ Wells]

Why you was against it, bro?

[Guest K Camp]

Like, cuz, bro, like, I don't know. It was just anxiety bad, bro.

[Host DJ Wells]

Okay.

[Guest K Camp]

You know what I'm saying? And like, I'm a scary shit. You're like, I'm a private. You know what I'm saying? Might ask the wrong question. I might goddamn say, like, for example, I just did Justin the boy. I'm on six shots, you know what I'm saying? I'm on a six shot. When they say it was dropping, I was like, damn, what the Did I say in the interview? You know what I'm saying? Like, that he'd be like, ah, you know what I'm saying? We get from behind these cameras embarrass

[Co-host Bishop B]

themselves, you feel me?

[Guest K Camp]

A lot of folks be doing goofy ass, but I ain't heard. I ain't no goofy, but yeah, you know what I'm saying? You might slip up and say some shit you ain't supposed to one time, but so that why I really stayed away from.

[Co-host Bishop B]

Yeah, for sure. We me off six shots on this. It'd be the last one we might be, you know what I'm saying?

[Host DJ Wells]

By the way, that's when we first started, though.

[Co-host Bishop B]

Yeah. If that ever gets released or anything. It was good noise you kept.

[Guest K Camp]

It was turned.

[Co-host Bishop B]

No, it was turned.

[Host DJ Wells]

I know. Even had video. Yeah, niggas turned all the.

[Co-host Bishop B]

How do you go about, like, picking your cities? Like when you planning your tour?

[Guest K Camp]

The data in the back end.

[Host DJ Wells]

Okay.

[Guest K Camp]

I don't want the fans at. Yeah, real strategic, you know what I'm saying? Not really bullshitting around, just popping up in a random ass city thinking they was gonna come see me, knowing exactly where they at.

[Co-host Bishop B]

Have you ever just chose one? Just like, man, let me add this just to see and end up being better than you expected. Like a city that you.

[Guest K Camp]

Yeah, yeah, my agent. My agent has. You know what I'm saying? Say I announced a tour and we ain't got a certain City on the. On the. On the lineup and people in the comments going crazy. And you'd be like, man, we gotta add this city, and we add it and it be some. Maybe some fun.

[Host DJ Wells]

And we always talk about the streaming era of music, but now having the information that you may not have before, does that kind of help with something?

[Guest K Camp]

Hell yeah.

[Host DJ Wells]

Yeah.

[Guest K Camp]

Hell yeah. That's all I gotta do.

[Host DJ Wells]

I'm graphics.

[Guest K Camp]

I'm a nerd when it comes to that shit now.

[Host DJ Wells]

Yeah.

[Guest K Camp]

You know what I'm saying? When it comes to the back end of data all the time, emails, phone numbers, like, I don't play around with that. Like, that's like our main business model. When that's the reason why my. So you know what I'm saying? Tight. Now pause. That's.

[Host DJ Wells]

Yeah, he locked in.

[Guest K Camp]

Respect.

[Co-host Bishop B]

Yeah, he locked in.

[Host DJ Wells]

Yeah.

[Co-host Bishop B]

What's the artist that you ain't worked with? You, you know, I mean, want to tap in with,

[Guest K Camp]

you know that question right there, bro. I'm at a point in my. Am I a stage in my career? I don't even be chasing that no more.

[Co-host Bishop B]

Yeah.

[Guest K Camp]

You know what I'm saying? If niggas wanted to rock with me, they gonna rock with me, you know what I'm saying? I'm the type of artist now. Like, when I was a young, I always try to, like, reach out to the. The niggas that was in front of me going crazy, and some of them fucked with me, some of them didn't. And that shit bothered me for a little while, you know? You know what I'm saying? We all got our idols that we look up to. Like, damn, I can't wait to get on, like, with this nigga, get in the studio, do a song with this, blah, blah, blah, and this shit don't happen. So I kind of, like, changed my mindset when it came to this. I'm like, okay, cool. I'm gonna be the influence in the young OG to the new niggas. And I'm gonna set a wave for the young niggas, you know what I'm saying? And be the one. If I get on your song, it's stamped, you know what I'm saying? They gonna. You know what I'm saying? It's the one or a lot. Even if I don't get on the song, if I sing with it, you know what I'm saying? Just that. Just that I'm the one you need like a Pharrell or somebody, you know what I'm saying? Nigga, that's just Influential and like, okay, cool. That's the approach, you know what I'm saying?

[Co-host Bishop B]

You listen to other people's music, like up and coming. He'd be like, ah, damn, let me holler at him.

[Guest K Camp]

Yeah, not everybody. Everybody ain't jamming like that. But a lot of be jamming, you know what I'm saying? But I don't try to get too indulgent, folks I like only reason I really tune into a lot of people's because I'll be so locked in on my. And I be. I gotta hear somebody else, you know what I'm saying? Because I come from like writing camps. Like Akon writing camps in Florida with like Lucky Day before he was Lucky Day. And Asian. A whole bunch of, you know what I'm saying? Vers Simmons and N. Like that is foolish, you know what I'm saying? So I like to hear other artists so I can make sure I'm still in my bag.

[Host DJ Wells]

I was gonna ask, how's that feeling now? Obviously, you know, came up in the industry and solidified yourself. Now you got people who come to you for a certain sound and want that certain vibe, a certain aesthetic. Yeah, what's that feeling like, knowing what I'm saying, that you cater to that role for a lot of people now, like you said, being OG for some

[Guest K Camp]

people, it's a thin line with that one.

[Host DJ Wells]

Okay.

[Guest K Camp]

A lot of niggas like Steel Soft.

[Host DJ Wells]

Oh, Respect.

[Guest K Camp]

Oh, Lord. And they like this way. So these days I'm real picky of who I let in my creative mix, you know what I'm saying? Cause a lot of niggas came around and just took pieces of a nigga and just put it on their like it was theirs, you know what I'm saying? That's the shit I don't like. But if you coming around and you genuinely want to work and we creating, you know what I'm saying? Off each other energy, I'm cool with that. And I don't mind. Cause I'm an artist, bro. I love making music. I love just hearing new shit, you know what I'm saying? I just started producing three years ago. I make all my beats now, you know what I'm saying? Have the shit I be making, you know what I'm saying? Like my next album produced by me fully. So it's like I just like being around creative shit, but not who just come around you with the wrong intentions, you know what I'm saying?

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[Guest K Camp]

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[Guest K Camp]

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[Guest K Camp]

Harmony what's one song money?

[Host DJ Wells]

What's the one song that you had or you could have had that you're supposed to be on?

[Guest K Camp]

You said what?

[Host DJ Wells]

Y' all nigga's crazy. I said what's one song you had, could have had or was supposed to be on? And you like I regret or I got I messed up on.

[Guest K Camp]

You said a song. I had that.

[Host DJ Wells]

Yeah.

[Co-host Bishop B]

What you mean that you passed on like a beat or something or a

[Host DJ Wells]

song you could have been a part of? You like damn I wish I would have did that in hindsight.

[Guest K Camp]

This old though I put me on trap reporter go shorty go. Oh you was I was in the house of spins and them that day and it was recorded by. They was recording. I had went to the crib that shows that show. That was hard.

[Co-host Bishop B]

That was hard.

[Guest K Camp]

Anything too.

[Co-host Bishop B]

That was big. Oh yeah.

[Host DJ Wells]

Oh I remember that song.

[Co-host Bishop B]

Yeah, they used to get the girls going in the pornhast.

[Guest K Camp]

I ain't had nothing going in the entire time.

[Co-host Bishop B]

You could have tore it off.

[Guest K Camp]

That the hell I blow that one. But that come to mind first, bro. You know what I'm saying? Other shit I don't care. I had I don't get damn about that. You look clear first.

[Co-host Bishop B]

You writing for other people like other

[Guest K Camp]

big artists or you just Nah, I used to.

[Co-host Bishop B]

Okay.

[Guest K Camp]

I used to. I put that shit down unless it makes sense. Like I keep telling everybody if I ain't in the studio with Rihanna Beyonce with them or somebody. I'm not doing a pass. You my song. You pass that nigga. You pass that nigga.

[Co-host Bishop B]

See, I always wonder what the process was like. Like if you wrote a whole song for a motherfucker. How's it go with you getting.

[Guest K Camp]

Yeah, depending on who the artist though. Like you write a song for up and coming artists, you. You ain't really gonna get paid like that unless the song blow up and be number one on you know what I'm saying? Hot, hot.

[Co-host Bishop B]

But so you get your money on the back end from that.

[Guest K Camp]

Yeah. Depending on if it's string. And I remember I told y', all it's strange. Millions or million strings, you gotta split that between 5 and management and lawyers and you gonna around get it. $100. Yeah. You're writing a song.

[Co-host Bishop B]

Yeah.

[Guest K Camp]

You know what I'm saying? It's bad, I hear for some writers, you know what I'm saying? I wish somebody would put something in place to change that. But that ain't now. It don't look good.

[Co-host Bishop B]

Damn, man, that's filthy. To write a song and send you a hundred dollar check, man. It's not definitely slapping on Tick tock

[Guest K Camp]

that boomer thousand stories out there like that right now. I'll be seeing that all the time on the Internet.

[Co-host Bishop B]

See, I need to have just a bad. This costs 100 000. You want this one.

[Guest K Camp]

But if you mean if you popping enough, you can charge out the gate like.

[Host DJ Wells]

Yeah, you can get yourself.

[Guest K Camp]

You weren't the top songwriters in the game gonna be a hit.

[Co-host Bishop B]

So I would say it for sure. So you gotta. You got a price on them beats. You to produce the whole thing.

[Guest K Camp]

I ain't put no price on them yet.

[Co-host Bishop B]

I might need to go.

[Guest K Camp]

Don't trip. I will. Look, I'm just making it for me for real.

[Host DJ Wells]

That being linking box, you know what I'm saying?

[Guest K Camp]

I got some. You know, I shoot y' all some beats, ain't you know what I'm saying?

[Co-host Bishop B]

Okay.

[Guest K Camp]

I can't wait. Somebody go up on one of my beats, we'll figure out the price. Definitely going up. When I do that. I want to charge y'. All. I'm charging whoever signed y' all this.

[Co-host Bishop B]

Oh, okay.

[Guest K Camp]

Label getting charged that.

[Co-host Bishop B]

There it is then.

[Host DJ Wells]

We love a good 360. Let's figure it out.

[Guest K Camp]

Hell no.

[Co-host Bishop B]

I'm trying to put a 720 here.

[Host DJ Wells]

You still your artist? Yeah, that's.

[Co-host Bishop B]

That's one of my artists. He right here. Yeah, we got rid of him. He didn't meet his quota. He did a tour.

[Host DJ Wells]

He was in the red.

[Co-host Bishop B]

He did a 10 city tour and 10 people showed up.

[Guest K Camp]

A person that's here.

[Co-host Bishop B]

That's my new artist over there. Oh, yeah, over there. Okay. The Kills. You know what I'm saying? I want to be singer, man.

[Guest K Camp]

Let's do it.

[Co-host Bishop B]

I have to tap in for sure.

[Guest K Camp]

Beats for yeah.

[Host DJ Wells]

How we found out we did live show. We was on Black Effects. Oh, God. I said, what's going Black Effect can't get family. Let's talk about here. We did a live show with N gre Shout out to Black Effects. I'm saying, he said, y' all never want a Black Effects. We ain't no black. I was like, we not.

[Co-host Bishop B]

Hell no. When you assigned to the label, did you ever have to do some that they just sprung on you? Like, man, pull up, you gotta do this. Then why the y' all let me

[Guest K Camp]

know a lot of not. What you mean? Like, do some like, interviews and interviews. Like, yeah, yeah. Like I used to promote. I ain't gonna lie. I don't know if I can say this on my it. I don't give back. I used to hate going to New York do press. Yeah. Because that was like my first time going to New York. And every time I went to New York, it was like 8am and like 5. Just interview, interview interviews. I never really got to experience that. And that was like, nah, you know what I'm saying? But as far as, like, I did what I wanted, bro, you know what I'm saying? It wasn't no control. I had created control. My songs, everything I heard, you know what I'm saying? It was all us wild out. So it wasn't really. No, it was just the business. But I was young, so I ain't understand the business. Cause they was just doing what the hell they supposed to do with they shit.

[Co-host Bishop B]

For sure, for sure.

[Host DJ Wells]

Obviously I know you be grinding the studio, man. What you doing in your free time, man?

[Guest K Camp]

Free time? Hawks game, Gun range. Yeah, Go hoop Still, you know what I'm saying?

[Host DJ Wells]

Are you still in the wreck with it?

[Guest K Camp]

Yeah, LA Fitness type shit.

[Host DJ Wells]

Ooh, LA Fitness.

[Guest K Camp]

Don't hype it up. Like it's really going crazy.

[Host DJ Wells]

I'm saying, you really like basketball? Because la, I don't work out every

[Guest K Camp]

day, you know what I'm saying? I make sure I stay in the gym, you know what I'm saying? Keep my shit together.

[Host DJ Wells]

But as far as tried you at LA Fitness?

[Guest K Camp]

Nah, I get busy, man. I still got some Shit going on.

[Co-host Bishop B]

You need to get in the abl, man. Nah, I make a call for you, bro.

[Guest K Camp]

See shit like that. Like, you know what I'm saying? I love that shit. Yeah, I'm not trying to go to the league, bro. He's taking this nigga be taking my popping right now. I'm like, dog, them ain't gonna call you now.

[Host DJ Wells]

They're not gonna call you no matter what you do.

[Guest K Camp]

But I respect the hustle, man. I respect that a thousand percent. But like, I'm not trying to just go in no league and twist my up my knee up now. I can't perform and do my job. And I'm not with that. I'm smarter with this.

[Co-host Bishop B]

No, for sure. What's some game you got for like a younger artist trying to come up in the game, man?

[Guest K Camp]

Get you a lawyer.

[Co-host Bishop B]

That was good first.

[Guest K Camp]

Yeah, get you a lawyer, learn your business, keep you a creative team around you, keep you some genuine folks around you. Because you're going, you're going. It's going to get tricky. And stay in that studio. If you love this, stay in that studio. That's really, you know what I'm saying? Because one hit changed your life, man. One hit changed my life. Yeah. And I was mad at a. Changed my life, you know what I'm saying? Another advice, you know, I'm sending emotions. Real tap in la marita or not tap in with the emotion. You might get rich.

[Co-host Bishop B]

Nah, for sure. How many hours do you spend in the studio though?

[Guest K Camp]

It depends, bro. I ain't gonna lie like, and that be really with my head sometime. Cause like, probably like four, five. I ain't gonna say four, five, three. Four years ago I feel like I was in the studio more now I feel like I'll be going to the studio when I feel something instead of just being in there just being that motherfucker. Like I try to be as intentional as I can when it comes to making music. Cause back in the day, you know what I'm saying, studio rap shit, you in that bitch from the morning to 45 in the morning, you know what I'm saying? Like morning to morning type shit. So I don't know, it's just whatever, you know what I'm saying. When I do go in there, I know I'm going in there with something that I know it gon hit. Sure. For sure, you know what I'm saying?

[Host DJ Wells]

Like you said how you used to pull up to the studio back when you first started, do you still pull up the same way? Like Maybe you have less people. Do you go dolo now since you produce, producing it and making something?

[Guest K Camp]

Yeah, majority of my. I record at the crib by myself. My biggest songs I recorded by myself.

[Host DJ Wells]

Damn.

[Guest K Camp]

Like, probably like 90 of them.

[Co-host Bishop B]

Oh, damn. Okay.

[Guest K Camp]

No, like, what's on your mind? Ice Cold Metamar, Autumn by myself. So that was my. That's how I was. That was my workflow for a long time. Cause I ain't want my partner hearing me sing. I don't want to be singing with Rome full of and like, you know what I'm saying? That uncomfortable.

[Co-host Bishop B]

Yeah. Room for the singing.

[Guest K Camp]

That. Nah, I ain't with it. You know what I'm saying? Boy, I gotta be by myself with them.

[Co-host Bishop B]

Funny how you go about naming the songs. Marilyn Monroe. That's crazy.

[Guest K Camp]

Song that name me, I ain't say melon one time. I think I made that song about that girl that work that magic. I think she still work at Magic

[Co-host Bishop B]

T. He probably T probably know.

[Host DJ Wells]

Man, stop it.

[Guest K Camp]

One of us know her. I know for a fact she love that. But what you say?

[Host DJ Wells]

No, he said one day.

[Guest K Camp]

But now it really was a strip club song by her. And I just wanted like a. A face that did. I don't know. I really don't remember how. I think I was just on Google and she popped up or something and I just like, damn. My name had been mellow because it rolled out the tongue like.

[Co-host Bishop B]

Yeah. Cause she was a demon back in the day.

[Guest K Camp]

You feel me?

[Co-host Bishop B]

Yeah.

[Guest K Camp]

And that played a role too. I don't know why. I told me more about. I don't know. I don't know.

[Co-host Bishop B]

No for sure.

[Host DJ Wells]

So hey, man, shout out to the inspiration. Like he said, boy, them the most is real, boy.

[Guest K Camp]

You feel me?

[Host DJ Wells]

If you know how to do it, it might get you paid.

[Guest K Camp]

I was liking her at that time, too. I'm like, how the fuck. Fast forward. I'm like, what? That's about who I made the song about.

[Co-host Bishop B]

Oh, you was liking her.

[Guest K Camp]

Not liking her. Like, about to go with her. But like I'm saying, you know, you be in the club. You can't advise your cookie. We vied up what's her name? You know what I'm saying? I must have forgot. Too many cities, too many dots.

[Co-host Bishop B]

Strippers will do that too.

[Guest K Camp]

They do it to you.

[Host DJ Wells]

Said, what's your real name?

[Co-host Bishop B]

You know what I'm saying?

[Host DJ Wells]

Stripper name.

[Guest K Camp]

I told stripper name. What's your name?

[Co-host Bishop B]

The ATL a few drops trying to

[Guest K Camp]

tell you, yeah, that different. If y' all in town. If y' all in town Monday. Y' all here Monday. Y' all ain't here Monday?

[Host DJ Wells]

No, I told you.

[Guest K Camp]

I'm having a party Monday, man. My birthday Monday. Float city, man. Float city, man.

[Co-host Bishop B]

Hey, I'm shitty, man.

[Guest K Camp]

Come back Monday, man.

[Host DJ Wells]

Yeah, come.

[Guest K Camp]

Come back Monday.

[Host DJ Wells]

I really need you, man.

[Guest K Camp]

Oh, man. Gonna be a now.

[Host DJ Wells]

Yeah, I see my nose.

[Guest K Camp]

All right, tell us.

[Co-host Bishop B]

Tell us how you feel about these

[Guest K Camp]

goddamn Hawks, Boy, I'm loving this. Damn. Loving it. You know what I'm saying?

[Host DJ Wells]

Hawks in five.

[Guest K Camp]

Hawks and five, man. We about to smack the Knicks tonight. Damn. I don't want this to come out.

[Co-host Bishop B]

Get on your ass.

[Host DJ Wells]

Crazy.

[Guest K Camp]

But now, you know what I'm saying? We try to catch this dude, man. You know, the city tight. We a think CJ was gonna coco crazy, but he. Yeah, he went crazy, man.

[Host DJ Wells]

520 limit. I see J. Hey, they call you a profit team. They said nobody saw the vision before Jeff did.

[Guest K Camp]

Are you saying it?

[Host DJ Wells]

I said it. It's cool.

[Co-host Bishop B]

He did.

[Guest K Camp]

I ain't gonna lie.

[Co-host Bishop B]

He did. But I think, like I asked you before, when Trey got traded, we thought y' all was like, yeah, it was wicked. Damn. They're trying to get the number one pick. For real.

[Host DJ Wells]

We gonna get that anyway.

[Co-host Bishop B]

I mean, yeah, but I'm just saying it was looking like a rebuild session. For sure. For sure.

[Guest K Camp]

It's looking good as long as everybody stay healthy.

[Co-host Bishop B]

I thought motherfucker CJ was gonna sign and then get up outta here on some shit like that.

[Host DJ Wells]

Nah, he gonna be here for a couple more years. Everybody about to resign.

[Co-host Bishop B]

Hey, what's that environment like in the arena when you're in that?

[Guest K Camp]

Bro, that lit, finally. I ain't gonna lie. I got season. Course I ticket, bro. I swear, my sister Be selling 80% of my tickets. Oh, God. Not I'll be gone or just like, she wants a gang dad, like, you

[Co-host Bishop B]

know what I'm saying?

[Guest K Camp]

Don't fuck with you, know what I'm saying? I. But now I'm like, okay, cool, sign me up.

[Co-host Bishop B]

I'm now, when'd you. Okay, When'd you start taking your tickets and going to the game, bro?

[Guest K Camp]

I've been going cigar. I didn't have EC ticket for like, three, four years, bro. You know what I'm saying? But just like it was, we had a little rough patch, you know what I'm saying?

[Host DJ Wells]

So basically, kick up to last week, you know what I'm saying?

[Guest K Camp]

I'd have been a couple games this year for sure, years ago.

[Co-host Bishop B]

Trey trading was all right.

[Guest K Camp]

That was cool. It was just we kept getting trade and it was like, man, it kept just yeah, but hey man, still lit. Come on, man, support the city.

[Host DJ Wells]

By the time it's come out, man, hopefully we still be victorious with the Hawks, man. If not, we gonna clip it up either way, man.

[Co-host Bishop B]

Yeah, for sure, man.

[Host DJ Wells]

Well, we out here can't tell if a new project you got on the way new project dropping real, real soon, right?

[Guest K Camp]

Yeah, we got something dropping next month for the city, man. This is for the city. It's for everybody, but it's for the city. Me and me and I can't tell you, but yeah, it's coming.

[Co-host Bishop B]

Tap in with my dog for sure. We appreciate you for sliding on, man.

[Host DJ Wells]

Shout out to our family over there. Boost Mobile. Tap in with K Camp. We need a chirp like the man. Bring the vibes back for show. Shout out to StockX, shout out to Hard Rock. Bet we appreciate y'.

[Co-host Bishop B]

All.

[Host DJ Wells]

We'll catch y' all next time.

[Guest K Camp]

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