Club 520 - KevOnStage on podcasting, standup comedy, hooping + NBA Finals picks

Summary

Club 520 Podcast – KevOnStage on Podcasting, Standup Comedy, Hooping & NBA Finals Picks

Episode Date: April 27, 2026
Guests: KevOnStage (Kevin Fredericks), with hosts DJ Wells, Bishop B, and Young Nacho

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Episode Overview

This episode features celebrated comedian, podcaster, and creative entrepreneur KevOnStage as he joins the Club 520 crew for a hilarious and insightful conversation. The group covers Kev’s path into podcasting and stand-up comedy, life lessons from the road, why authenticity matters, family business dynamics, and some highly debated food takes. They wrap with NBA Finals predictions and a celebration of Black media success.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. KevOnStage’s Podcasting Journey

• Origins & Motivation:
  Kev explains that his entry into podcasting was inspired by his wife and began with "The Love Hour" podcast, initially recorded on iPhone voice notes about relationships, before growing into a multi-platform media career.

  • “The first podcast I ever did was called the Love Hour Podcast. My wife was always into relationships... we did that podcast for like six, seven years, maybe longer. We ended up writing a book, Marriage Be Hard, New York Times bestseller.” – Kev, [15:01–16:15]

• Diversification:
  Now hosts and produces several major podcasts, including “Here’s the Thing” with Angel, “The Bald Brothers” with Tony Baker, and “Not My Best Moment,” partnering with Steph Curry’s Unanimous Media.

  • “I do a podcast called Here's a Thing with My Homegirl Angel... we have good chemistry... Me and Tony do a podcast called the Bald Brothers. We're probably even me and him on there talking about movies, pod... And then I do Not My Best Moment on iHeart with Steph Curry's company, Unanimous Media.” – Kev, [16:28–17:41]

• Approach:
  Emphasizes making content based on genuine interests, showing the power of being one’s authentic self online.

  • “I only talk about stuff I'm excited about, and I never try to overdo my stuff. And I never try to, like, be into something just so I could be in that community or whatever.” – Kev, [13:12]

2. Comedy, Church, and Authenticity

• Growing Up in Church:
  Kev humorously details his journey from church drummer (the “star player” in church pecking order) to youth pastor, often performing on stage and preaching, sometimes to overlapping crowds.

  • “My first role was the drummer... The drummer was like. That was the star player. I was never even a great drummer... My first desire for the limelight was like, I gotta get on drums.” – Kev, [08:49–10:20]

• Relatability:
  Highlights the importance of being real in both church and street culture, resonating with a multi-faceted Black audience.

  • “You don’t have to try to be something you’re not to get people to like you. Like, the more you are who you are, the more people can relate to that.” – Kev, [08:08]

3. Standing Out and Elevating Black Media

• Praising Club 520:
  Kev credits Club 520 as proof that authentic voices, chemistry, and relatable storytelling can break through in a "saturated" podcast space.
  • “In the same way standup comedy wasn’t around forever… everybody’s not a stand-up comedian. Some people are perfect for podcasting and y’all are perfect… y’all got the perfect balance of funny stories, culture jokes, good hosts, like getting shoe deals. […] I love the fact that the media landscape is changing. Black people are at the forefront, and we can support our people and be entertained. I love that for us.” – Kev, [05:59–07:55]

4. From Day Jobs to Full-Time Creative Careers

• The Grind Before the Breakthrough:
  Both Kev and hosts share stories of juggling soul-killing jobs with creative passions. Kev describes working at Boeing, hating the cubicle, and meticulously touring on weekends.

  • “Anything that prevents me from having to go back to that cubicle at Boeing is like, I will do it. Because I remember looking at that clock and be like, I know an hour passed, I know it. And it’s 8:03…” – Kev, [17:43–18:07]

• Advice for Creatives:
  Encourages listeners not to quit day jobs prematurely:

  • “You really shouldn’t quit your job until it’s impossible to maintain both...you give your business a better chance to succeed if you don’t rely on it for all your income immediately.” – Kev, [22:14]

5. Food Takes, Family, and Everyday Debate

• Iconic Food Debates:
  Kev defends the much-maligned pumpkin pie – over sweet potato pie – and provides sharp observations on Black food culture.

  • “I prefer pumpkin pie over sweet potato pie… Pumpkin pie and sweet potato pie ain’t really that different. We just put way more sugar in sweet potato pie… Pumpkin pie is just a little bland little dessert… But yeah, I prefer pumpkin pie. Cause I grew up on that.” – Kev, [28:51–29:16]

• Family Life and Cooking:
  Shares how his family relates to food, his own lack of culinary prowess, and the expensive experiment of having a private chef.

  • “You ain’t gotta dress it up. Make it real for me. Cut me a slice. I don’t need all that extra… I eat, but I don't really cook like that.” – Kev, [31:11], [34:45]

• DoorDash Confessions:
  Whole panel discusses their DoorDash addictions:

  • “I don’t even want to look at how much damage I do on that. Like, it’s crazy. The DoorDash Wrapped at the end of the year. Like your Spotify Wrapped.” – Kev, [35:02]

6. The Reality of Touring and Comedy Work

• Touring Challenges:
  Kev explains the struggle of travel, ticket sales, and maintaining family balance, especially based in LA rather than Atlanta.

  • “The hardest part really is that it takes so much work and time to do something for 45 minutes… The travel is easily the hardest part. Being away from your family is hard as well, but the travel is easily. And then also it’s hard to self ticket tickets.” – Kev, [38:08–39:41]

• Keeping Material Fresh:
  Online content helps him test and protect material.

  • “I’ve done so many jokes online. One to. To see if it works, two to stamp it—you can’t steal it… Sometimes when I’m going to build a new hour, I’ll just go through my feed and be like, what have I not talked about?” – Kev, [39:44]

• Lesson from Basketball:
  Applies being a “glue guy” in basketball to knowing his role in creative work and team building.

  • “I was a mediocre basketball player, but I really wanted to win… If this nigga Duncan, you not dunking…so for me, I’m like, okay, bet. But if we win, we win.” – Kev, [40:57–43:36]

7. Work, Family, and Business Boundaries

• Hiring Family is Complicated:
  Kev is candid about why he doesn’t hire family for his company, with funny and honest stories about expectations and tensions mixing family and business.

  • “I can’t hire you because I don’t want to have to fire you. And I will immediately… Even my brother, rest in peace, he was my manager before he passed away. I had to let him go. I said, man, I need a manager to go out and get business for me. He’s like, that ain’t really what I do. I gotta let you go.” – Kev, [59:41–61:00]

• Working with His Wife:
  Talks about the challenges and rewards of being business partners and how conflict and different strengths make them stronger together.

  • “There was a time in the pandemic, man, it… She was like, we can’t work together… over the last year or two we really found a good flow state and most of it’s been me listening to her earlier… She would have saved me a couple hundred thousand dollars if I would have listened to her early.” – Kev, [63:59–65:25]
  • “If you had what I have… I wouldn’t want to lose that… I’d fight for her.” – Kev, [68:01]

• Business Standards:
  Stresses high standards for his team:

  • “I’ve gotta have people on my team that are working as hard as I am… Be a star in your role.” – Kev, [62:09–62:22]

8. NBA Finals Predictions

• Kev throws a curveball with his Finals pick:
  • “I think the Spurs have an easier path than I realized… I think the spurs. I’m gonna jump out there. If I’m right, they like, Kev knew Spurs!” – Kev, [74:17]

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Black Media:
  • “The media landscape is changing. Black people are at the forefront, and we can support our people and be entertained.” – Kev, [07:55]
• On Authenticity:
  • “You don’t have to try to be something you’re not to get people to like you.” – Kev, [08:08]
• On Food Loyalty:
  • “Pumpkin pie and sweet potato pie ain’t really that different. We just put way more sugar in sweet potato pie.” – Kev, [29:09]
• On the Hustle:
  • “Anything that prevents me from having to go back to that cubicle at Boeing is like, I will do it.” – Kev, [17:43]
• On Team Roles:
  • “I was a mediocre basketball player, but I really wanted to win… That mean I need to do what I do well and let the other niggas do what they do well.” – Kev, [40:57–42:00]
• On Working with Family:
  • “I can't hire you because I don't want to have to fire you. Facts. And I will immediately…” – Kev, [59:41]
• On Marriage:
  • “If you had what I have… I wouldn’t want to lose that… I’d fight for her.” – Kev, [68:01]
• On NBA Finals:
  • “If I’m right, they like, Kev knew Spurs! If I’m wrong, it’s like that nigga Kev don’t know.” – Kev, [75:00]

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• KevOnStage on Podcast Beginnings & Evolution: [15:01–17:41]
• The Importance of Authenticity in Black Media: [05:59–08:08]
• Food Debates: Pumpkin Pie > Sweet Potato? [28:51–29:24]
• Comedy Hustle & Leaving the Day Job: [17:43–18:07], [22:14]
• On Touring and Creative Work: [38:08–40:41]
• Basketball Lessons / Team Roles: [40:57–43:36]
• Why He Doesn’t Hire Family: [59:41–61:00]
• Marriage/Business Partnership Dynamics: [63:59–65:25], [68:01]
• NBA Finals Picks: [74:17–75:00]

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Overall Tone & Final Reflections

The episode is a dynamic, funny, and inspiring conversation — equal parts inside-joke riffing and real talk about surviving (and thriving) in creative business, especially as Black creators. KevOnStage has the rare ability to blend practical knowledge, community uplift, laughter, and brutal honesty. It’s a must-listen episode for fans of culture, comedy, and digital entrepreneurship.

Follow: @club520podcast & @kevonstage
Kev’s Projects: "Bald Brothers" (Tubi/YouTube), "Safe Space" & "Airport" (Tubi), "Not My Best Moment," "Here’s The Thing"

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Episode Highlight:
Kev’s final NBA pick and the crew’s belly laugh sign-off set the tone for a show about celebrating wins, being true to yourself, and giving people their flowers while they can still smell them.

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A full meal of laughs, lessons, and Black creative excellence. Highly recommended for fans of comedy, podcasts and hustle.

Transcript

[Kevin]

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[Bishop B]

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[DJ Wells]

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[Kevin]

Man, I never had Boost Mobile.

[DJ Wells]

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[Kevin]

No, I, I, I just never had it. I was, I had the same sprint for the whole time, but I would love it. You feel me? You know what I'm saying? I'd love to.

[Bishop B]

No respect. We got to switch you over to the game.

[Kevin]

Put me on.

[DJ Wells]

Come on. We got something special happening tonight. Hey, Boost Tap in. Came on. Same shit. He was a fat P. You know what I'm saying?

[Kevin]

Boost Mobile.

[Bishop B]

Yeah, for sure, for sure.

[Kevin]

It's never had that.

[DJ Wells]

The qualifications have went down because back in the days, used to have, you know, used to have the trap. You know what I'm saying? Have a. Yeah, you could just use them for every day, man.

[Bishop B]

Pull up to the career, bro. Set yourself up so you ain't gotta go nowhere.

[Kevin]

I need that.

[Bishop B]

Yeah, for sure.

[DJ Wells]

None of Oz Boost Tap in family for sure. Shout out to Hard Rock bed B hen. I wish they had a lay man for Vegas, boy. Cause you could always take the underboard. Vegas is undefeated, brother.

[Bishop B]

Yeah, I would have took the under yesterday for sure. For sure, man.

[DJ Wells]

To be here in parlay is a wild one. Nakayv. Do you dabble in the sports world again? I know you watch sports. You tap in with the lights, you get a little.

[Kevin]

I don't really tap in. I don't really bet on nothing I can't control.

[DJ Wells]

Okay.

[Kevin]

Cause it'd be infuriating to me. You know what I'm saying sometimes I gamble, you know what I'm saying? But Vegas will do blackjack, roulette, just for fun. A little too, honey, here and there, just to feel the life. But after that, man, I'm gone, you know what I'm saying? If harleg one rebound off now, my kid. Yeah. It's like I can't enjoy the game like that.

[Bishop B]

That's true.

[Kevin]

Why you ain't grabbing that right?

[Bishop B]

He got a rebound. He's a legendary.

[Kevin]

I'm still sorry, Milwaukee. Please forgive me.

[DJ Wells]

Yeah, Jeff somebody rent money, man. Not getting that rebound for sure. Shout out to Harbor. I bet. Shout out to StockX. Keeping us fresh in the set as well. Like I said, I'm your host. Miami is D.J. wells. We got a special special guest in the building, man, as usual. Introduce him last. To my far left, we got my dog, Bishop B. Heading out the pearlies. How you at, Nasty?

[Bishop B]

Cool and nasty, man. Enjoying my morning, man. Let's get to it. I'm ready to talk to kids, man.

[DJ Wells]

Hey, man, listen, a link up has always been necessary. I'm glad we can make that happen, man. Two people here going crazy. Still to my right, my dog, Young Nacho. Young T. How you what?

[Kevin]

Just in Vegas, man. Y' all know I'm here. I'm ready for WrestleMania, man. Yeah, but we got a special guest and I'm hyped to have him here. Hilarious.

[DJ Wells]

Yeah, him and B, him about to have a moment.

[Kevin]

Already know.

[DJ Wells]

So it's about to be good for the Internet, man. Have been asking for this. Absolutely. 1,000% in the street.

[Kevin]

Absolutely.

[Bishop B]

So before we start, bro, I want to say thank you for that shout out on Mellow Pod. Yeah, that was big for us, bro.

[Kevin]

Real quick, y' all don't know when I saw that. I said, nigga, like, the game is changing before our eyes. And I'm telling you, like, y' all are proven, like, in the same way. Standup comedy wasn't around forever, right in the 70s. People were like, oh, you can actually do this as a job. You can get a TV show from this. Everybody's not a stand up comedian. Everybody's not a skit maker on Instagram. Some people are perfect for podcasting and y' all are perfect. It's like Lex P. Andrea for poor minds. Like, they don't have to go and try and get on stage and do something like, what you doing is enough. And y' all got sports, culture, comedy. You like every athlete. Podcast ain't all created equal. I ain't here to throw no Shots? Nah, but y' all got the perfect balance of funny stories, culture jokes, good hosts, like getting shoe deals. Nigga, what are you talking about? I didn't even know that was a thing. We didn't either. We didn't either. Shout out to the three Stripes. So. Yeah, it's just amazing. I love the fact that the media landscape is changing. Black people are at the forefront, and we can support our people and be entertained. Like, I love that for us. And what y' all do open the door for people like me. Like, even though I've been in podcasting longer, nigga, I ain't doing what y' all doing now. I got to go to my people, be like, nigga's getting. Shoot. I didn't know we could do that. Where is my money? So, no, but y'. All. But y' all also deliver, though. It ain't just like, y' all were giving something you didn't earn. Like, the podcast delivers weekly, and y' all put in a lot of work, bro. Like, y' all out here doing the work. You putting a lot of podcasts. Like, y'. All. It's. It's a job. Y' all doing a job, and y' all doing a great job. So I'm. I'm happy to be here. Be blowing my mind that people know who I am. I was like, when John hit me up, I thought it was just like, oh, I thought he was doing off the strength of we niggas. Yeah, we all niggas.

[Bishop B]

Yeah, for sure. Watching content slap every day, and it's hella relatable to every part of the world.

[Jacob Goldstein]

For real.

[Kevin]

Thank you, man.

[Bishop B]

You understand that, like, the stories you share just about your own world and then bringing it back into everybody else, man, that is dope.

[Kevin]

I love that. It's proof that you can just be who you are. You don't have to try to be something you wear to get people to like you. Like, the more you are who you are, the more people can relate to that. You know, I'm a square church going nigga who loves niggas. Okay with that? Yeah. I don't want you to try to be like you, trying to be a street. You really not about that. Life don't matter.

[DJ Wells]

Fdo.

[Kevin]

Fdo. Yeah. Like, if you a street, street know the street, and they know if you a church, be a church, and that's cool.

[Bishop B]

We fuck with y', all, too.

[Kevin]

Yeah, A lot of street grew up in church. They know church. They granny church. You know what I'm saying? But, like, yeah, I'm cool, man. Stall around.

[Bishop B]

Speaking of church, what was your role? Did you have a role in the church?

[Kevin]

Oh, man, I had so many roles. My first role was the drummer. Like, okay, that's him right there. You drummer?

[Bishop B]

Church drummer, yeah.

[Kevin]

Oh, you had hoes then.

[Bishop B]

Yep.

[Kevin]

Drummer got the most. Drummer got the most hole.

[Bishop B]

Oh, God. I brought a new one to turn.

[Kevin]

Gary Sunday kid got the most hoes. They see you playing like, he probably beat me up like that

[Bishop B]

from the back.

[Kevin]

That's how. That's how. That's how you got a girl in church.

[Bishop B]

Yeah.

[Kevin]

You had to be the drummer. You had to be going off. If you ain't. If you ain't. You know, everybody could get some. All the musicians, but the drummer was the Nigga. Like, number one, 1,000%.

[Bishop B]

Yeah. I always. It's a drummer. The choir director is definitely last.

[Kevin]

No, he. Well, he played. He played a different conference. Right?

[DJ Wells]

Yeah.

[Kevin]

I feel just a little bit different.

[Bishop B]

Right.

[Kevin]

And I hate that stereotype, but at some of my churches, it was absolutely true. I'm so sorry. It is a stereotype for a reason.

[DJ Wells]

And honestly, if I come to your

[Kevin]

church choir director ain't like that. I'm a question department. I'm question y. H.R. yeah. Because y' all ain even playing at the top of your skill. Y not scouting. You need people in the right positions. Like, you need the choir director be like that. You hear me? You don't want me direct to the choir. We gonna be terrible.

[Bishop B]

Nah, for sure. The choir director was the first tik tok dancer. I tell people that all the time.

[Kevin]

But, like, my. The drummer was like. That was the star player.

[DJ Wells]

Yes.

[Kevin]

And I was never even a great drummer. But I, like, I got on the drums. But that was my first goal. My first desire for the limelight was like, I gotta get on drums.

[Bishop B]

That was the first manly thing to me in the church for sure. That's what my family always told me. It was drummer, bass, keys, and my

[Kevin]

uncle played the bass. I was like, you know, the drums was there. The organ is probably the most. The hardest instrument to play.

[DJ Wells]

Organ players are very, very talented.

[Kevin]

Yeah, you playing with both hands and you running the bass with your left foot, like. And you controlling the power with your right. Like, that's really. But yeah, that was my first thing in life was play the drums, sing the choir. Cause we all had to. I eventually was an ordained minister and then youth pastor for four, three, four years. I was both learning to do stand up comedy and a youth pastor at the same time. So I have people come to my shows on Thursday and be like, this is preaching on Sunday. And they would come to my church. Like, people from the club would come to my church on Sunday. And then I'd see church people in the club. Like, don't tell my pastor, I'm in here. Like, I'm in here. Go up what I'm gonna say.

[DJ Wells]

And you know what? One thing that I always respected and appreciate about you is that you hit so many different graphics of people, but is you being yourself, right? Because so many people is multifaceted. Everybody be trying to act fake online. You. Yeah, one person, you do a lot of different things. So for you to do content, not even content the way you just live, to affect so many people in different ways. Like, different age brackets. I always thought that was fire.

[Kevin]

Yeah, I just really talk out loud about whatever I'm into. Like, if I'm into. Like, when my son got into soccer, I was like, let me learn everything I can about soccer. Then I got into the black people who into soccer. You know, I used to play basketball. So, you know, I love sports. I love all sports. I'm always talking about, you know, sports. Got to the WNBA because I felt like, man, I'm missing out. You know what I'm saying? Like, then I got into that. Then I get into wnba. I get into anime. Because Tyler, my boy Tyler, my boy. I want him to be my boy. But he was talking about, yeah, Tyler, I want to overdo our friendship. You know what I'm saying? Dragonfly Jones. Yeah, Dragonfly Jones. That's cool. But he was like, yo. He was just on Twitter like, yo, this show Blue Eye Samurai is legit, and I'm not even an anime type dude. So I'm like, oh, he wouldn't, you know, like, let me check this out. So I watched that. I enjoy that. And then black people was like, oh, if you like that, watch this. And next thing you know, I'm an anime nigger now. Like, and it's legit, you know? But I don't ever talk about something I'm not really on. Like, I only talk about stuff I'm excited about, and I never try to overdo my stuff. And I never try to, like, be into something just so I could be in that community or whatever. Like, it ain't. It ain't like that. I usually just talk about what I'm interested in, But I'm interested in a lot of things, which, like, you said, a lot of people are, you know what I'm saying? A Lot of street watch anime. Like I got pulled aside by some rappers. Like, nigga, I ain't even know you was on that. So Jujitsu Kaiser. I'm like, you killed three. He's like, yeah, but I always,

[Bishop B]

I

[DJ Wells]

won't say that because on the east side of that sorry city is a bad shout out.

[Kevin]

But like I said on the Pokemon cards, apparently not playing. Yeah, yeah. And get hoes too as well. And real niggas is into wrestling. Like, oh yeah, Wale. You know them niggas real. Like we all.

[DJ Wells]

Yeah, yeah.

[Kevin]

So I'm, I just do whatever I'm, I'm into. I'm into it loud.

[DJ Wells]

You know what's funny about that? Last year we met you at Wrestlemania.

[Kevin]

We was just like, I don't know

[DJ Wells]

if he know who he is, but we met you backstage at the joint.

[Kevin]

Wally mania.

[DJ Wells]

No, at WrestleMania last year.

[Kevin]

We know. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[DJ Wells]

We was like, dang. I don't know if he knows. I was like, I'm just like, well anyway, that's good. That's also next year for you to be on the show. Crazy. Like we didn't even know if he was aware of us.

[Kevin]

I, I for sure, I don't think I placed it. Like I remember the moment right now and I'm like, I know I know a lot of people, but I can't always tell where I know them from. You know what I'm saying? But I for sure been a fan of the podcast. Like I try to keep up on everything black entertainment, you know. And y. Yalls podcast is one of the stories of like, people think you can't make it still. Like, like they think podcasting is over saturated. I'm like, yalls podcast is another example of if you have the right things, you can, you can cut through, you can break through, you know what I'm saying? And you have the, the right chemistry. And Deontay Kyle is another example. Like he was riding like driving trucks for a living last summer. Like last summer that nigga was dropping off loads, hooking it up and on the road. Now he's a full time podcaster, you know what I'm saying? So if you have the talent, skill and ability, you gonna cut through. So like this is just like a dream come true. When John hit me, I was like, I gotta go now. I gotta go back home to be on time with my kids because my wife is like, all right. Like, oh yeah. What we say though, you know, how'd

[Bishop B]

you get into the business to podcasting?

[Kevin]

So I got into podcasting low key, because my wife not even being funny. The first podcast I ever did was called the Love Hour Podcast. My wife was always into relationships. Way back in Tacoma, we had. We did like, a live thing called the Love Hour Live. And it was like a. We would just, like, talk about relationships at this. There's a barbecue restaurant called Uncle Therm's. People paid, like, five actually. I don't think we charged at that time. It was like, yo, pull up on Thursdays. We're gonna talk about loving relationships. So we did that live for a few times. And then my wife actually is the one who put me on the podcasting. She was on the read way back. The Read and Brilliant Idiots were the first two podcasts that she told me about. And I. I didn't know. Like, I had heard of the idea, but I didn't, like, tap into any of them. The reason. Yeah, og, OG Loudspeaker Network. Then when I worked at All Deaf, I got put on the Combat Jack. That was like, the. Those were the big three podcasts. Yeah. Rest in peace, Combat Jack. So we was. At that time, we would record our podcast. No video on our iPhone, voice note, like, in our bedroom, just, like, holding it, talking about love and relationships. And then we did that podcast for, like, six, seven years, maybe longer. We ended up writing a book, Marriage Be Hard, New York Times bestseller. Shout out to me and her two times. You know what I'm saying? I got to say it.

[DJ Wells]

Yeah, you got it.

[Kevin]

Because it's hard, and everybody gonna do it, so ain't nobody got toot. I gotta toot my toot. You feel me?

[Bishop B]

Oh, for sure.

[Kevin]

But, yeah, part of my left. That's my bad. Okay, I feel you. I feel you. Yeah. Two to two.

[Bishop B]

The double toot is Christ.

[Kevin]

The double toot. The double toot is wild, y'. All. Let me slide. You let me slide the double, too. That's my bad. Respect, Spartan left. But then I got into comedy podcasting. I do a podcast called Here's a Thing with My Homegirl Angel. Brilliant, brilliant, brilliant comedic mind. I really let her do her thing. Like, on that show. I'm her rebound. Outlap Pass. Okay. Like, she is the first option on that podcast. Like, I thought it was my podcast. And I just realized over the last few months, I'm really Wade you bron here, and that's cool. I have to carry the load on a lot of things. I don't have to carry it on everything. So for that podcast, she is the comedic relief. You Know, we have good chemistry. Joshi on there too. And me and Tony do a podcast called the Bald Brothers. We're probably even me and him on there talking about movies, pod. I mean, movies, sports, a lot of ranking stuff. We just be excused to hang out. And then I do not. My best moment on iHeart with Steph Curry's company, Unanimous Media. That's where I talk to artists, athletes, entertainers about mistakes they make. You know what I'm saying? That's like my professional podcast. So, yeah, those are the four that I do.

[Bishop B]

Damn, that shit don't get tired.

[Kevin]

You know what? It does. But, man, I used to hate my job. And anything that prevents me from having to go back to that cubicle at Boeing is like, I will do it. Because I remember looking at that clock and be like, I know an hour passed, I know it. And it's 8:03. And I looked at 8 and I'm like, oh my God, like, how am I going to make it till? And I got off work at 2:00'.

[DJ Wells]

Clock.

[Kevin]

I started my shift. I was in my desk at 4:45. Sheesh. In my desk, first shift. Shout, bruh. I'm in there. I done seen the end of YouTube. Like, I'm watching Paid in Full at work. Just like, bro, I can't, I can't. I can't even be bored enough. Like, they was letting me do anything and they were still boring. You know what I'm saying? So it do be tiring. I just shot my podcast, John Hibby. I was like, I bet if I can make this work dream come true immediately, I'm gonna go immediately to WrestleMania after this. Me and Father, for four hours. But it is tiring. But it's infinitely better than being in that cubicle. Anything that prevents me to have to go back to that job and have to ask somebody for time off when I know I'm already going. Like, what year did you know I'm about to go, bro? And you pull 100 one way or another, 2000%. You either go write me up, I'm taking PTO, or I'm not getting paid, but I'm absolutely going.

[DJ Wells]

And if you wild out, somebody in my family might randomly just, you know what I'm saying?

[Kevin]

Like, it's my fourth grade in the

[Bishop B]

fans, but I'm doing fake, fake funerals. I used to Google who died a week ago.

[Kevin]

You was doing research.

[Bishop B]

Yeah, I did the research, scumbag. Because, you know, everybody fumed is always what we follow.

[DJ Wells]

If you black, you got two and

[Bishop B]

a half I always. I had a girl who made. She made what's her name? Obituaries, but she was just. I put this lady face on there. This is the day she died. So to match up to the article. So it'll match the article. It was so bad. It was so bad. K, the I work for, they used to send flyers to my mama house. My mom was receiving random flowers. I'm like, girl, just shut up. Just take them, put them somewhere. You gonna get some more in a couple of weeks.

[Kevin]

What's wrong with him?

[Bishop B]

I got a slide so wrong with him, bro.

[Kevin]

The Rico? Yeah. I almost got fired so many times. I worked at the bank, man. I remember I had a. I would. I got a chance to do a show in Miami and I'm like, I got no pto. I'm like, I gotta go. I call my manager from the airport, in the airport, like, oh, I'm sick, like, faking. She's like, here's now boarded. Like, she's like, kev. I was like, man, I'm sorry. I had a show. I'm sorry, man. I had to do it.

[Bishop B]

What year did you start working, though?

[Kevin]

So officially, my last year working was 2019, I believe. So I worked at All Deaf and that first tour, when I first did my first independent tour, I worked Monday through Thursday at my job, flew Thursday night to whatever city we had a show in on Friday, worked remote all day, slack, email, doing notes Saturday morning, flew or drove to the next city. Yeah, did a show that night, Sunday morning flu, drove to the next city, did a show Sunday night. Then Monday morning, I would fly back to LA and go straight from LAX to work. So I worked basically for 10 months straight every single day. So because I was like, if this tour don't work, I gotta, you know, yeah, I gotta pay these comedians. I gotta. I don't have no health insurance, all that stuff. So after that first year, my wife was like, bro, you can't. You can't. You can't do that to yourself again. Because I was willing to do it again. And it was like 80. We did like 80 shows. Like, we was. We. We was. Yeah, we was. We was on roll, man. We was. Chattanooga, Buffalo, like, cities I didn't even do well. And Albuquerque, it's like 15 people. It's like, we ain't even going to do this, man. Like, y' all all could have met up at the next city specifically need to come to Albuquerque. But it was enough people coming that it made sense. But after that. So 2019 is when I went full time touring and at the same time I was doing a podcast at that time as well. So Yeah, I was 2019, I, I, I went full time and then 2020 I was, I'm about to go on the road again and it was a pan, pandemic right on top of that. So I was real tripping, man.

[DJ Wells]

That's inspiring for you to say that because a lot of people think that, you know what I'm saying, once they quote unquote make it that okay, I'm done with all this stuff, it's like, no, just because things going, you have to keep doing what you did for to get to that point.

[Kevin]

Yeah, I tell people you really shouldn't quit your job until it's impossible to maintain both and really, you give your business a better chance to succeed if you don't rely on it for all your income immediately. Like a lot of times we just really want to do that. But most young businesses, they don't have enough income to be solely your job like that, especially in entertainment, you gotta build that up. Today's show is brought to you by our presenting sponsor, Hard Rock Bet, the official sportsbook partner of the Miami Heat and Orlando Magic. Hardwood is heating up as the NBA playoffs begin. In a Hard Rock Bet, every night is a shot to build the same game parlay and to score a major bucket.

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[Kevin]

So I was doing podcasting, I was doing live shows, I was doing touring, you know, selling merch, doing all that stuff. And it was like a combination of all that. I was like, okay, I could. Like, I could. I've made enough that if I don't work my regular job, actually working my regular job prevents me from being as successful as I could because at this point, shows is more money than I could make at all. Def. You know what I'm saying? Like, I could make that in like three weekends, and then I could be out for, you know, 40 weeks. I was doing like 40 weekends of shows at that time, so. And then it was just like it was too hard on my body to like, then go sit up at the job. Yeah.

[Bishop B]

You know, could have stretched it during COVID though.

[Kevin]

Cause yeah, we could have.

[Bishop B]

So you were supposed to get the fake test. Seven days off, kid. That's a free seven, man. You don't even gotta use the PTO or nothing. You'd had a 14 off, so. Huh?

[Kevin]

14 days off?

[Bishop B]

Oh, yeah, I had 14. I did it six times. So we really. Damn cousin Cuz. My last year working was 2020, but I stretched it out, and then when cover was done, when was healed, I just used the rest of my PTO. And so 2020 was a blessing year for me. I work for this company named Epson. They. We used to build projectors and the.

[Kevin]

The printer company.

[Bishop B]

Yep, we used to build projectors, and they're just, you know, putting all. Put projectors together.

[Kevin]

Wow, that's amazing with all the talent you have, like, all that was in you. And you was building printer.

[Bishop B]

Yep, I had a. I did that. I worked at the post office and I had a catering company all at the same time.

[Kevin]

You definitely trapping, man.

[Bishop B]

Yeah, I did all that in 2020. But that once. Once that Covid came, I mean, God bless everybody who lost their life, but that was a blessing to me because I survived in that them paychecks. Kev, you laughing, Kev,

[Kevin]

you knew he was gonna say that. You still said it. Like you brain heard that coming out, you was like, yeah. Cause this how I feel. I got to get this all the way, man. Scary as that might have been, the maliverse, he was thinking, oh, he said, God bless everybody. We got guests. So he would have said what he really wanted to say.

[Bishop B]

No, for sure, for sure. Well, yeah, we. I wish. I know y' all told you. Hold on. Not yet.

[Kevin]

You got extra 14 for sure.

[DJ Wells]

N be his chef it up for real. My boy get wicked in the kitchen. Now while you here, Kev, you have some radical food takes. Be here our resident food expert. It's only right we had this conversation for sure. I got jumped right recently because I told these people that pumpkin pie was better than supersetter pie. If there's one gentleman I know who appreciates his take issue, please let these people know what they missing out on, man.

[Kevin]

So here's the thing. I don't actually word it that way, okay? But I prefer pumpkin pie over sweet potato pie. And my thing is, I tell black people all the time. Cause I'm with you. Pumpkin pie and sweet potato pie ain't really that different. We just put way more sugar in sweet potato pie than it is pumpkin pie. Pumpkin pie is just a little bland little dessert. You know what I'm saying? It's like banana bread. It don't bother nobody. It ain't over there trying to be something that's not.

[Bishop B]

It's like, hey, bro, that is true.

[Kevin]

I'm cool. You want a sweet pot, you can go get that. Black people be like, nigga, you ain't. You don't like Obama. Ain't nobody that ain't say nothing like that. But, yeah, I prefer pumpkin pie. Cause I grew up on that. My mom was not a baker, so she would always buy pumpkin pies and just sit them on the. On the table during the fall season. So basically, anytime through September through, you know, Christmas, we always had pumpkin pie. So I would eat sweet potato pie, but it ain't like something I crave. So now around the fall time, I'm like, oh, nigga, it's pumpkin pie season. And pumpkin spice lattes. I be in Starbucks. Give my pumpkin spice a shot. I'm a white girl when it comes to this crazy. I can get a pumpkin loaf. I'm pumpkin out. Like, whoa, bruh. At Starbucks, I be getting pumpkin everything. And the thing is, black people like all the other pumpkin stuff. But that pumpkin pie, they be like, that's where it's the weak.

[Bishop B]

It's the weakest dish, kid.

[Kevin]

It is like, I'm not even here to defend it.

[Bishop B]

You need some ice cream or something.

[Kevin]

They always try to put some ice cream or something. No whipped cream. Just great pumpkin pie.

[Bishop B]

No, no whipped cream. Whipped cream.

[Kevin]

But like, it's like pound cake. People only get mad at the pumpkin pie take. Like, if I said I like pound cake, nobody would care. No it ain't really that different, but you can't.

[Bishop B]

If you eat. If you eat pound cake butt naked. That's crazy. You gotta put strawberries, then you put the damn. I do use that for whipped cream or something else. Respect. With that shortcake, you need that whipped cream and that strawberries on.

[Kevin]

Oh, that sound crazy. I don't have to have decadent dessert. It ain't got to be crazy for me. You ain't got to dress it up. You ain't got to dress it up. Make it real for me. Cut me a slice. I don't need all that extra, man. Like, I'm cool with just semisweet dessert.

[Bishop B]

The shortcake is damn near.

[Kevin]

No, don't do that.

[Bishop B]

It's. It's good. No, I was about to say no. It's damn near like it's bread. Basically,

[Kevin]

you gotta put. Hey, hot sa. It's.

[Bishop B]

It's sweet, but it's. It's sweet, but it's just pointless, bro. It's just pointless. It's pointless.

[Kevin]

Why is it pointless?

[Bishop B]

Because it's just. I don't know. It's. It's not really a dessert, bro. It's just too sweet to make a sandwich. But it's just. I don't know. It's just a useless piece of dessert, bro. I'm sorry, kid. We gonna blank that out for you guys. I know you got a lot of going on.

[Kevin]

I'm wrong with him. I'll rock with shortcake, bro. So you had shortcake, but not apple pie? Apple pie. No, I never had apple pie. Never had it. Not apple crumble, nothing. Apple pie is cool. Or my nephew, he ain't never had apple pie either. Have you? Yeah, apple pie. Big white American dessert. That's like big maga. That's. They think Eagles, guns, nascar, apple pie, racism.

[Bishop B]

No, that's true.

[Kevin]

That go with their stuff. Like, we don't be on apple pie. Like, I don't have to be like, where's the apple pie? Like, that's not a thing for. In the black community. We eat it, but it ain't like you got to have it.

[DJ Wells]

How much to make them nigga pieces

[Kevin]

since you can read so good? Try. See, that's fine. Y' all told me apple pie was fire, though.

[Bishop B]

I love. No, I. I respect A.J. n. I. I love apple pie, though. A McDonald's apple pie.

[Kevin]

D.J. this back totally different. Apple pie is smoke. Every smoke. Way better than, like. Yeah, especially the. Back in the 90s when it was the crispy, like, the fried one.

[Bishop B]

Like, in the red pack?

[Kevin]

Yeah, when the box was red, that was. They. That was a prime. I like the baked ones, but the hot fried one was, like. That was the best version of that.

[Bishop B]

That's crazy. Do you cook here?

[Kevin]

Nope.

[Bishop B]

You don't get it.

[Kevin]

Again, I don't do nothing I really like. I don't even grill. For real. I'm okay. I do burgers, dogs, mainly chicken. But, like, if I don't be amazing at stuff, I don't do it at all. I'd be like, man, I just. This is dumb. If I can't make a souffle and smoke ribs, then I don't. I'd rather just order it. Like, I'm just not. I respect it, though. Like, my homie CP that really be out here smoking ribs. Spice, bro. Got, like, the. The smoker the time. Like, like, bought him a girl for Christmas.

[Bishop B]

Yeah, they bought me a green egg. I'm still getting used to that.

[Kevin]

That's like, this the kind of, like a small.

[Bishop B]

It's fire. Yeah, it's fire. But I got. I stick to my OG too, bro.

[Kevin]

Yeah, smoke on Traeger. Yeah, yeah, yeah, bro. You. Are you wood? Yeah.

[Bishop B]

Oh, respect. That's what. Kel. That's why I call my. It's the wood.

[Kevin]

Yo, that reminds me. Yesterday, my wife. My son's. Everybody in my family got abs. So my son was sitting down, flexing my. My wife touched his thumb. She was like, you rock hard. He was like, yo, yeah, that's crazy. She was like, you cannot pause your mom. He was, you need to say abs. He said, you need to say your abs. Sure. Like, you just can't say that. She was like, you can't pause me, but you. It was like. That was wild.

[Bishop B]

I used a little wood.

[Kevin]

The mesquite chip wood.

[Bishop B]

Yep. I used the little chips wood, and I mix it in with the charcoal.

[Kevin]

Okay, cool. Yeah, see, that's legit. Yeah. Yeah, I just, you know, I never really been into that. You know what I'm saying? I eat, but I don't really. I don't really cook like that. Yeah.

[DJ Wells]

I'm first seeing my door dash. You know what I'm saying?

[Kevin]

Yeah. I'm second team. I don't. I don't even want to look at how much damage I do on that. Like, it's crazy.

[DJ Wells]

I'm scared. If I ever did, like, a year imbalance. Oh, bro, I need that on my taxes. I'm gonna keep it big.

[Kevin]

The doordash wrapped at the end of the year. Like your Spotify Wrapped.

[DJ Wells]

Oh, no, no.

[Bishop B]

Y' all doordashing every day, bro.

[Kevin]

I. Yes, okay. I. Doordash.

[DJ Wells]

You have to.

[Kevin]

It's insane. It's. It's a problem because I'm really, like, efficient. Like, I know.

[DJ Wells]

Okay.

[Kevin]

I'm about to do this meeting at 12. I want to eat at 11. Let me hit. You know, I want this at my door. You know what I'm saying?

[Bishop B]

Like, you're a scheduler.

[Kevin]

Yeah, And I don't really want to clean. I don't want to do no dishes. Like, why am I going to cook these two eggs and I got to clean up the frying pan? Just, like, have these at my house. Fruit. You know, the vegetables. Fruit and vegetables.

[DJ Wells]

Yes, sir.

[Bishop B]

Oh, yeah. Respect.

[Kevin]

Oh, see, I don't never know when y'. All.

[Bishop B]

No, no, no.

[DJ Wells]

Respect.

[Kevin]

Wood's a problem, but fruit's okay. But, yeah, it's laziness, too. Like, oh, my. Laziness.

[DJ Wells]

This is crazy. Kev. I'll drive past the place out door

[Kevin]

dash 1000% at the red light. Oh, yeah, that sounds fire. I do that. I do that with five guys. Yeah, that look good, man.

[DJ Wells]

Boy, door dash five. I know that's at least 100 of rip, boy.

[Kevin]

Oh, you know I ain't tripping. Run it up. You got to do it. What's in your wheelhouse? This ain't a problem for me. I. And this ain't no flex. This is just the truth. I had a chef for a little bit, and I was like, nah, doordash is good. Why? You never knew my contract. Actually,

[Bishop B]

can you speak on how you let him go?

[Kevin]

Actually, it was during COVID It was just. He took off 14 days. Yeah, I can't make him in. Said, we ain't really eating right now. Yeah, my son, sometimes she. She would make stuff, and my. Like, my sons. You made this thing, and then my kids eating something else. I'm like, no, we can't have that. Like, it's too expensive if everybody ain't eating it for every meal.

[Bishop B]

That's a fact.

[Kevin]

You. This. We. It's got to go now.

[DJ Wells]

That's crazy. If I. We have a chef, we need to

[Kevin]

be on one Accord. Yeah, but my. My youngest son's super picky. Like, he is. Like, this nigga will eat yogurt every day, three times a day. Like, he don't like nothing. Like, he's on that. Like, so it's like he don't want to eat nothing special, nothing different. Only what. My wife makes all that stuff, so I'm like, this don't make sense. And she was asking us what you want for dinner? I was like, a week. That's what we got. Oh, man. What y' all want? No, for sure.

[Bishop B]

That is for sure. Yeah, A thousand percent.

[Kevin]

A thousand backwards.

[Bishop B]

That's why I was, yeah, now, yeah, I'm paying you. Like the thing for you. That's crazy.

[Kevin]

Yeah. And it was just like I, I, I did a little too much with my life. Like I was like this out here and I was like, I'm not out here like that. Like, I, I ain't no athlete where I need nutrition. Like, I'm over here, you making French toast. I'm making terrible choices. Like, you hurting me.

[Bishop B]

N for sure. I wanted to ask you, man, what is like the hardest part about touring?

[Kevin]

Man, the, the hardest part really is that it takes so much work and time to do something for 45 minutes. Like, and especially living in LA, like, if I lived in Atlanta, it would be infinitely easier because you can get from Atlanta to almost anywhere in that same day flight. But from la, it's already more expensive because either you. I got a show in Atlanta on Friday night. I can't leave Friday morning and get there safely in enough time to perform. So I usually got to go red eye Thursday night. And then to make sure I get into the room, I have to buy the room for the night before, you know, so I, you know. Cause they'll give you a room away. Or you're stuck in the lobby waiting, which if you ain't got nothing to do, that's okay. But if you got a show that night, you sit in the lobby till 3 o', clock, 4 o', clock, depending on what check in time is. That just messes up my whole vibe. So the travel is easily the hardest part. Being away from your family is hard as well, but the travel is easily. And then also it's hard to self ticket tickets. Like to consistently sell tickets, you gotta, everything else is part of it. Like videos, podcasts, you gotta save people's feeds. So I'm always kind of feeding them. That's why I'd never stop making these videos. Because I always wanna remind you, like, oh, Kev, that was funny. Oh, Kev. So that when I'm, I'm not always like trying to promote my ticket sales every single time you see me, but when I do promote, you're like, oh, go check them out. You know what I'm saying? But you really gotta be funny every day to be able to tour, you know, 30 times, you know, or perform 30, 40 times a week. I'm sorry, a year. So, yeah, that's easily the hardest part is. Is selling tickets, promoting, and the travel.

[Bishop B]

That's how you work on your game, though, like online, every day, 1,000%.

[Kevin]

It's easy to get. Like, I've. I've done so many jokes online. One to. To see if it works, two to stamp it. You can't steal it because, like, dang, Kev's the first person to sell that. Sometimes when I'm going to build a new hour, I'll just go through my feed and be like, what have I not talked about? Can this be a joke that works on stage? Cause everything online don't work for the stage, but some stuff actually can. You know what I'm saying?

[DJ Wells]

So.

[Kevin]

But yeah, it's essentially like getting shots of. I gotta be out there trying to be funny, trying to be fresh. Cause standup comedy, if you don't do it consistently, you'll lose it. Like, you won't be funny. That's why Eddie Murphy was like, I've been away from it too long. I don't even know if I'm funny like that anymore. But I think people will still laugh, so I really can't risk that. But, yeah, that online works. And staying fresh. Me and Tony do the Bob brothers too. Even though that's not traditional standup, I know it allows me to stay fresh at the skill.

[DJ Wells]

What I want to ask is, obviously you're a talented writer and creator as well. One thing I wanted to say is, was it harder for you to perform some of the stuff that you're. When I say perform, is it hard to translate the stuff and the jokes that you're making into writing for other people to act on other people to perform instead of how you would do it?

[Kevin]

You know, what I like to do is really, so far, I've been able to really play to people's skill sets. So when we did the Airport or Safe Space recently, we did the Airport. The people that I hire, I'm a fan of them. So when we're writing stuff, I'm writing stuff where I know you can get off. Like when we hire cp, for example, he's a premier roaster, so we put him in spots where he can do what he does well. He's also a brilliant actor. He can do anything. But I know he's gonna shine at this mecca, who's a tiktoker, She's a brilliant yapper. So the things we have for her in the airport is like, let's play to your yapping ability. Then there are people like angel who can do anything, or Spice Adams is really physical. Like, he's a physical comedian. So we wrote a sketch for him. Like, okay, we don't even have to tell him to do that. He just naturally will be like, I'm gonna go farther than you ever expected me to go. So Tahir has a very mischievous deviousness to him. Like, he always looked like he either finna commit a crime or plotting on you. Like, he looked like he just looking for an angle. Like, I ain't gonna rob you straight up, but your pocket will be a little light, so. And he also will take it too far. So you just put them in positions to win. And probably my best ability is I. I was a mediocre basketball player, but I really wanted to win. So that mean I need to do what I do well and let the other niggas do what they do well. So I. I think being not good at sports, but really wanting to win prepared me for this part of life. Cause I. I remember I always tell this joke that I played four years with jv, but it was really only three. But. And I know three's bad enough. That's crazy, right? But my coach came to me, so. So in 11th grade, Lakes High School, my coach came to me. Reggie Williams was on our team. Reggie Williams was the ninth pick in the NFL draft the year he came out. He went to uw. We went to high school and college together. My coach came to me, and he's like, he not coming out the game. Y' all play the same position. He's 6'5,235, runs a 4, 6, 4, 5, 40. All American football, track, basketball. I'm 5' 10. I can't dunk. I can't dribble that well. I'm just a utility player. I'm rebound. I'm still gonna take a charge. Like, I know what I do. I'm a glue guy. I'm a Sid Colson locker room nigga. Like, I went trash. But I'm like, you know, I'm this nigga dunking. So if this nigga Duncan, you not dunkin, my nigga. Easy choice to make. Like, so for me, I'm like, okay, bet. But if we win, we win.

[DJ Wells]

Yeah.

[Kevin]

So if I'm rebounding, if you can. And I can't shoot threes like, it probably you should. I'm here. You feel me? Finish with the lap. Undersized power forward. You know what I'm saying? Oh, yeah. Like, I One in the same. I played myself down for comedic Billy, but I was. I was solid at basketball, right? But I wasn't amazing. Like, I knew I wasn't going to the league in any way. Actually, I didn't know that. I found that out. I believe in myself. What did you find out?

[DJ Wells]

If you don't want me asking.

[Kevin]

No, I'm gonna tell you. I'm gonna tell you exactly. Because I remember the moment, it became very clear to me, one, when that coach told me that I was like, okay, so shoot, shoot. If he's asking me, he was like, do you wanna sit on the bench or do you wanna play jv? So I was like, I'll play. Like, I'd rather play basketball than not play basketball. Facts. But after my senior year, my coach got me a tryout. Me and my homeboy, a tryout at, like, some Division 3 college. So I'm, you know, I'm you. You dub. Like, at that time, Nate Robinson there, Will Conroy's there. Like, yeah, Hoopers, you know, they going to that college. So I'm like, okay, I know these. I'm not on that level. So let me. I know I'm gonna cook these white boys at Pine Tree Valley College when I tell you I went out to the woods in the middle of nowhere, Washington. Never heard of this college. Never seen these white people. I'm like, okay, I'm gonna start off guarding the guards. This white boy, probably five' five, strong as hell, crossing me over. I can't do nothing with him. White boy, bop, bop, chest bum, three bob. I'm crossing me. I'm like, nigga, why is he crossing me? He is white, strong as hell, ripping me, crossing me over. And I'm like, this nigga done hit five threes in a row. Like, I'm not gonna make this team, right? And at this point, the bigs on the floor have not done nothing. So I'm like, okay, I'm switch off to the big. I get my boy like, yo, switch off, switch off. I got to do something different, nigga. I start guarding the whiteboard. All of a sudden, this nigga's dunking. He ain't dunked all game. These niggas, they throwing him lobs. I'm getting dunked on. And I'm sitting here like, nigga, I can't guard anybody on this. And we at Pine Tree Valley Community College, and I can't stop anybody, right? So the coach is like, yeah, Frederick, man, just take a break. Promise you. I took my shoes off. I said, yeah, that's. You ain't got.

[Bishop B]

You had plans to hoop at the high school?

[Kevin]

What? We going to the league. Oh, what you mean?

[Bishop B]

Kev, you took that shit a little too far.

[Kevin]

What? In my mind, I'm. Bro, you gotta understand, in my mind, I'm destroying everything and everything I do.

[Bishop B]

You must have had a hell of a senior year.

[Kevin]

Not really. Not really. I once had 26 and 10. Okay, you with my. With my girl in the. You know, in the away game, right?

[Bishop B]

No, that's lit.

[Kevin]

Step back, B. Blocking shots out of. Bound, but average.4 overall.4.3 overall that season. Solid. Just a good team player, man. Like, Draymond. Like, a lot of things I did. It's not like, you know Draymond. What I mean by that is, like, he don't feel everything, but you. Like, he's a. He's a difference maker on the court. He makes the team better. That's kind of how I was. Right? But then I went to University of Washington, and I see, like, Nate Robinson, Will Conroy, like, these. Brandon Roy, John Brockman. Yeah, Brockman, bro. Like these. This is what God wants for you. This ain't what he wants for me. But when I have my streaming service kept on stage studios, when I tell you dead serious, I'm not a joking bone in my body, I'm like, we gonna make this so big. Netflix is gonna call me and be like, yo, what y' all doing? Like, y' all eating to our subscriber base. And I'm like, yeah, we gonna. Yeah, we out here. Like, in my mind, that's how big we gonna get. We gonna make a dent. You gonna have to buy me out, right? Like, that's. But to me, if you ain't thinking like that, then you lost already.

[DJ Wells]

That's a fact.

[Kevin]

Like, you can't. You might not get there. But if you start off like, we just gonna have a thousand, what's the point of even trying? Like, I'm trying to dominate in everything I do, but once I realize I can't, I'm out. Like, I'm like, if I'm not gonna be that nigga, then I'm not doing that. You know what I'm saying?

[DJ Wells]

Listen. You know, said his coach had a hard dart with him.

[Kevin]

Yeah, I haven't had those hard to hearts. I can't tell a kid that yet. I ain't got it ever yet. People need to hear that, though. They do, they do. Like, I. I appreciate my coach for being like, I can't be mad if I say I'm no, put me on varsity. My ego like, no, I want to be varsity as a junior. I can't be mad if he don't put me in. Like, that nigga was dunking. He was strong as hell. This nigga was. Like, when I was watching him, I was, my game's at 3:30, bro. They don't even have. They don't even take the tickets. He like, yeah, yeah, come in sessions, ey ops. And your game is crazy. We don't have that stuff. Cheerleaders is not out here. Not here for the love of the game, bro. Like, it's cool. I'm cool with that. Cause I knew where I was at. Like, I'm never. I'm very self aware. Like, my son was really good in soccer. Like, my son was at a point where this team in Rome was like, hey, we want you to come out here and live here and play under us. Like, this is how you gonna elevate your game. When he was like, coming out of ninth grade.

[Bishop B]

Damn.

[Kevin]

And I was like, yo, if you want to do this, like, this is you really low key late already? Because for real, if you want to be like, at the top level soccer, they pick you out at like 7, 8, 9. You in those academies, you in Europe and stuff like that. So I was like, you really late. But the fact that you're on the radar, you know, this is your time. If you want to play at that level, this is it. And he was like, I ain't trying to go to Rome. I was like, bet. Just know you not gonna be at the top level. And he was like, okay, cool. So we cool with that. Like, but don't tell me you want to be at that level. Like, even if you don't go to Rome, like, you gotta have a trainer. Like, if you want to be on those levels. These kids not playing games. He's like, I'm trying to enjoy my summer. Well, then that's it. Like, we just gonna go to your game and support you. But I'm not expecting you to go. Yeah, Mikey, these kids are really about. They're not playing the game. These niggas have coaches and trainers and nutritionists at high school. Like, the club games, they not playing about this. Like, you playing and that's cool. But he also was like, bro, I don't have to play soccer for a living. Like, I just enjoy soccer. I'm not trying to live in Italy for that. And my wife was like, we gotta move to Italy too. I was like, nigga, what?

[Bishop B]

Hell no.

[Kevin]

I got stuff to do. For sure.

[Bishop B]

For sure.

[Kevin]

Yeah, It's like boarding school. Like that nigga Awkward.

[Bishop B]

Yeah, I'mma fuck with you. FaceTime.

[Kevin]

I feel you. Yeah, from LA. You want to play soccer? So I respected him when he didn't want to go. But like, also, don't tell me you want to play at the top of the level, you know what I'm saying? And that's cool. Like he, he said, I only want to play in college. I just enjoy playing soccer. This nigga joined the volleyball team just because he likes playing sports, you know what I'm saying? And that's fine. But in my mind, it's either the top or nothing. And that's not always a good mindset, but it does help me in certain things. But I don't. I can't do things for a hobby, really. Like if I'm not. I used to play the bass, but it's like if I'm not the best at that, then I'm just. There ain't no point, you know what I'm saying?

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[DJ Wells]

That's funny. I guess I have some of that.

[Kevin]

They very similar, bro.

[DJ Wells]

Especially that shit is crazy.

[Kevin]

Yeah, yeah.

[DJ Wells]

All that training stuff. We ain't trying to hoop, for real. We ain't wasting all this chicken, bro.

[Kevin]

Yeah, just go hoop. We deal with our net.

[Bishop B]

Did you spend money early on when he was playing?

[Kevin]

Yeah, yeah. And I didn't really realize, like, I played AAU basketball, but this was. It wasn't that level. But. But. But soccer in LA at the club level is super expensive. It's. It's. Thousand bucks. Two, three thousand bucks in dues. Couple hundred bucks for tournaments. Cleats. Like, it's like a really expensive thing. And he was. They was getting washed, like, smacked around. I'm like, nigga, we don't. You gonna get smacked around. Do that at the field by the house. We driving all the way to San Bernardino, losing six to zero.

[Bishop B]

Oh, for sure.

[Kevin]

And I gotta drive back in the truck. You musty and sleep. And I'm like, yeah, it's over.

[Bishop B]

Was he the only, like, African American on?

[Kevin]

Yeah. Yes kid on the team.

[Bishop B]

They picking on the. On the team.

[Kevin]

Yeah. And he was a beast. Like, he was really good at soccer, but it's like, you know, it's 11 people on the. On the team, like, and then other people. They got people too. You Know what I'm saying? So it's like, save your money, man. Save your money, man. We not going to do this. And you don't have to do this. Like, I got a whole production. We say money, then we melt for your father's company. After college.

[Bishop B]

Learn the game, baby. Yeah.

[Kevin]

That's how we did him. Oh, yeah. Literally, you program.

[DJ Wells]

It started off just him, thousand percent.

[Kevin]

He quit in what, seventh grade, eighth grade soccer.

[Bishop B]

He started his au program for his nephew. And this. He's a. He's a y poo sh.

[Kevin]

That program men people to college into the NBA. All type of people.

[Bishop B]

He told the kid, this is Malcolm. Probably remember this. This is a school northwest where they used to have, like, tryouts and that. He told the kid, you. This is my Uncle T. We had

[Kevin]

that program for another 10 years. We ain't seen Balco not one time.

[Bishop B]

Hey, no.

[Kevin]

He really told the kid that my daddy. This my daddy house.

[Bishop B]

That was the energy for sure.

[Kevin]

For sure. Lonnie, man, dude, crazy, man.

[Bishop B]

That daddy work with us.

[Kevin]

But that's. I mean, that's the dream, man. We was talking to my sons about this last night. My son, the soccer one, he is a. Like, he is a cheap dude. Like, we was at the airport, and he had ordered a sandwich and three drinks, and the dude was like, $50. And my son was like, what? He was like, sandwich, 23. He was like, how much is the drink? Like, 650. So he was like, nah, I don't want none of it. Like, fine. I'm not hungry. I'm not thirsty. And the drinks were mine and my wife's, and the money, like, it's my credit card. He's like, nah, it's just on principle, like, that's. That's crazy. So when he also wanted to go to school for econ, and my wife was like, you should be production accountant. Like, you should be in the budget part of production. Because he. He. His whole life, he don't play about his bread. Like, even when he was young, before we even had money, I bet them $100 they couldn't do a bottle flip. And he won. Like, he flipped it the first time. He kept that hundred dollars for, like. Like, four years. Damn. Like, dead serious. His friends, like, we got a little bit of bread. And my oldest son is like, you know, he enjoys that part of our life. He said, I was there before. Yeah. He was like, hey, man. Like, he. People get on him like, you a trustworm, baby. He was like, you say that like, nigga, what for sure. My parents take care of me. You want me to feel bad about that?

[Bishop B]

That's how I used to be. I swear to God.

[Kevin]

Talk about, like, I'm sorry you can't enjoy this, but thanks, kid.

[Bishop B]

That was me in the hood. I can't help the shop. Come on over here, get something to eat, right?

[Kevin]

But my youngest son, he don't play that like, we going to Six Flags. We all pay in our ways. So one of the times this kid was like, he ain't having. And my son was like, what you doing with them Crocs? He was like, what? I'll take the Crocs. Damn. Yeah, he gonna be. So that's the thing. I wouldn't charge him my money. Cause you treat my money like it's your money. That's cool. You know what I'm saying? But he can have that now. Go to school, learn how, you know, learn the business for real. But also, you have a job here. But also, I told my oldest son this. He wanted to work for me, and I said, you know me as the dad, and I'm a playful dad. You ain't known the business person of me. Like, when I need something, I need it, and you ain't seen that side of me. So if you say you want to do this for real, I don't play about that. I play about a lot of stuff. But that business stuff, he was like, all right. Like, so I need five clips from this episode by Friday at noon, and he'll turn him in midnight, Thursday night. Like, he knows that I don't play. Because when you go to that business, they're not gonna be like, oh, he's Kevin on stage's son. Like, none of that matters when it's time to do the work. Like, nepotism will get you in the door, but a lot of times when you black, it will not keep you there. You white. Oh, yeah, that's Scotty's son. Like, you get chance after chance after chance when you black. If you're not working for your dad's company, like, it's a rap, you know what I'm saying? And I'm not finna raise nobody who's gonna be a bum on the stuff I built. Like, we all have to work. You working this for real? You got to be for real. You know what I'm saying? Because if I die and leave this to you, I need to know this in good hands, or we just sell it. You know what I'm saying? Like, because. Because I can't have my name My Marlo. My name is my name for sure. Like, he called the streets, called me a punk. He's like, man, you ain't worried about that? No, man.

[Bishop B]

You hire anybody else in the film. You hire anybody else in the film now, or you just.

[Kevin]

What's that type of election?

[Bishop B]

Like, everybody N. Man, everybody needs a job, man.

[Kevin]

This is what I tell people. I can't hire you because I don't want to have to fire you. Facts. And I will immediately. Like, I. I hired my cousin. I love you. Got to let you go. I gotta let you go. What happen? He's just saying, hey, brother. And this my. I love her. Her, but we go on a family trip together to Hawaii. Every trip for me is work, though. Like, even if I'm in Hawaii, I'm still working. I'm taking meetings, stuff. She put it out of office on her email. Like, you can't reach me. I'm out of the office, nigga. You with me. You directing people to me, nigga, You. You. You're here. Yeah. You can't be out of office. I ain't out of office.

[Bishop B]

No for sure.

[Kevin]

Say respect my work life balance. Nah, that you not. Nah, baby girl.

[Bishop B]

And you took her, like, pay for

[Kevin]

her to go, like, ticket hotel. I'm paying you for the week. What you mean you out of office? You talking just. In Hawaii. You had a job. You want to use your PTO now, you can't hurt that. She didn't use the benefit of her job. I can't say nothing about at all.

[Bishop B]

That is crazy. I ain't gonna lie.

[Kevin]

That's great.

[Bishop B]

That was your last straw.

[Kevin]

That was my last. Yeah, that. That'll do it. That'll do it, and I don't want it. I don't want Thanksgiving to be weird.

[DJ Wells]

Weird.

[Kevin]

Yeah, it was weird. Yeah. I fired you. Now your auntie, like, you still with your wife. What now we got all, like, now, like, sure.

[Bishop B]

Nah, you saw the ending. The why I can't.

[Kevin]

What?

[Bishop B]

Why didn't I get married or whatever it is? That's all. He shot that up.

[Kevin]

Even my brother, rest in peace. He's. He was my manager before he passed away. I had to let him go. I said, man, I need a manager to go out and get business for me. He's like, that ain't really what I do. I said, I gotta do it. I gotta lay there, boy. I gotta let you go. For sure. He understood. I said, bro, these people talking about, they gonna. They got teams. They gonna go out to brand deals day and night. He's like, I can't do it. Yeah, I got that. Come on, man, let me talk to you real quick, because this is my life, man. Yeah, for sure. For sure. This is my life. Hey, Real, though. He said, hey, but I ain't doing that.

[Bishop B]

You got a lot going on.

[Kevin]

That's real.

[Bishop B]

You got a lot going on, bro.

[Kevin]

I gotta have people on. On my team that are. Are working as hard as I am at your thing. I don't. I don't expect you to do my job, but you gotta do your job at your ability.

[DJ Wells]

Be a star in your role.

[Kevin]

That's all you gotta do. That's what I'm telling you, bro. I not being great at sports has helped me because you. You know, you talk about basketball. You think about it. There's only so many possessions, and they can only get to so many. So people stay in the league. By you, you a three and D guy. Now, you might have been getting 40 in high school, 30 in college. Right now, I need you to guard, space the floor, and hit that corner and hit that corner. Three. I remember them days. Yeah. Cause this nigga getting 30 shots a night.

[DJ Wells]

Damn it, Joe.

[Kevin]

So, yeah, like, I need that out of my team because I'm a do. I'm do my part every time. You know what I'm saying? So, luckily, now I have some people with me. Josh, my. My first hire, cameraman. Excuse me, videographer. He's great. Rich. Tv, film, he works hard. My brother Greg, tour manager, he's a beast. You know, my wife is the best thing ever. Like, she is legit as good as me, but in things that I'm not good at. So that really was what makes me formidable. Excuse me. Hell, yeah.

[DJ Wells]

Real teamwork.

[Kevin]

But, yeah, no family no more. I love y'.

[DJ Wells]

All.

[Kevin]

See y' all on Thanksgiving and Christmas.

[Bishop B]

Now, what about, though, when it gets tough with the wife? When y' all arguing, do y' all separate work from.

[Kevin]

You know. I know.

[Bishop B]

You know what I mean? You ain't gotta say too much, kid. Don't get a little tricky. I don't want you. You know what I mean? We got a little motion. This motherfucker be clipped up.

[Kevin]

I could never. It's tough.

[Bishop B]

Yeah.

[Kevin]

You know, we have this inside joke where it's like. Because there was a time in the pandemic, man, it was. She was like, we can't work together. Like, we were not working well together because I'm. What. What. What it took to become Kevin Stage is not what it takes to become Kev on Stage, studio. And I was having trouble separating the two because it was always me, me, me, me, me. And I'm hard headed and stubborn and I think I'm right about everything. And it takes me a long time to come around to being wrong. And when I come back to your idea being right by that time I come around to it. It's my idea now, like, oh, I know somebody like that.

[Bishop B]

I know somebody just like that. He's sitting right there. Yeah, it was your shit the whole time. Facts, facts.

[Kevin]

I come around to like, so what we need to do is. That's what we told you. I remember that now I'm saying it. That's crazy. Gaslighter. That's crazy. And I don't even realize it, right? So my wife always calls me out about that. But the thing is, yeah, like sometimes it's, it's tough. Sometimes we gotta figure it out. Sometimes we gotta like, you know, I won't say go our separate ways, but sometimes there's tension as a result of working together. I think over the last year or two we really found a good flow state and most of it's been me listening to her earlier, you know what I'm saying? Because she's been writing about a lot of things and I probably would have, she, she would have saved me a couple hundred thousand dollars if I would have listened to her early.

[Bishop B]

That's gang.

[Kevin]

So I don't make that mistake as often as I used to. But also part of it is like we, we have the conversation and we recognize it's okay to disagree. But she's like, we got to have the conversation. And at the end of conversation you decide this is what you want to do, that's fine. But you got to hear me out fairly and listen to what I'm saying. And if you decide not to do that, that's cool. But you're not finna just like bowl over me, you know what I'm saying? So I think it is tough because back in the day I went to work, it did my job, she went to work, did her job, we come back home and talk about stuff. Now our jobs are the same. So sometimes it's blurry between what's like, like our relationship, what's work is like, is there any real difference ever? So we have to find other things to connect about. And sometimes we don't agree. Like I'm really an artist. And what I mean by that is I can sometimes be a bad business person because I really, really want to perform. And she's like, nah, like, they ain't respecting the money. So she'll speak to the ego of me. Like, they ain't care. They think you would take that. I'm like, nah, nah what? Like, oh, they think they gonna play me like now. Like. But she know how to activate. Like, oh, if you want to take that, then you'll take anything thing. Oh, that's what they trying to do. So she knows how to like, yeah, speak to me to, to my, you know, my skills and all that type of stuff. So. And she's a really good business person, like, probably better than, than me. So I think it's, it's just really beneficial. But she also, like, part of the reason I'm doing this new Grief sucks tour is cuz she challenged me, like, as a wife. She was like, I was going to go do the churches, just do an easy hour, you know, people was gonna have a good time. And she was like, like, you better than that, Kev.

[DJ Wells]

Yeah.

[Kevin]

She was like, you doing them old jokes? Oh, I was like, hold on, hold on.

[Bishop B]

Like my shit work.

[Kevin]

Yeah. But I remember we was doing a show and this comedian did a joke I was about to do. She was like, that's only happened to me because you did that joke when you were 16 and she was there like, like, you've been doing that joke. Like, come on, man. Like, you should be embarrassed that you was even about to say something somebody else about to say. That's dope. Yeah, yeah. Like, she really was like speaking to the challeng in me, the creative in me. So it's like there's so many benefits about being with her that it prevents me from like, seeing it as a negative because I just told the story on Cam's podcast about we was in a rough spot and I went outside and begged for her, like, don't leave. And people in the comments, nigga, I'll never beg. Nigga, I will. If you had what I have.

[Bishop B]

Yeah.

[Kevin]

Like, I wouldn't. I don't want to lose that. That, like, if I had a diamond and somebody was trying to rob, like, I wouldn't just let you take it. Like, I'd fight for her. Like. And the thing is in that story, I was realizing if I let her go, I know what it would have done to me. Like, if I let her go to the hotel that night, I would have been like, oh, she don't want me. Blah, blah, bl. Like, I could have gotten my head that way. It wasn't all her. And I was like, if we, if we. If you don't get that to that point, we can still do this. So I, I say all that to say all the way back to what we was talking about. You gotta be who you are. I'm a begging nigga. I need that woman in my life for a variety of reasons. It don't matter to me what you would do nigga in the comments. Yeah. Cause you don't have her. Like, it doesn't matter what you nigga say to comments.

[Bishop B]

That is a fact in this situation.

[Kevin]

Yeah.

[Bishop B]

One thing I can say about you though, Kev, you know how to stay at that doghouse boy.

[Kevin]

Oh, man.

[Bishop B]

Cause I ain't gonna lie. I'm gonna test some water stuff. I'm gonna test some water.

[Kevin]

You gonna test the point.

[Bishop B]

Yeah. I ain't go lock.

[Kevin]

You gonna let it go to the hotel?

[Bishop B]

Because I think, I think you was like you when she left. Soon as you saw her at the car, you ran out there. I. I let my girl drive down the street.

[Kevin]

I let it get down the street in a portal. No contact.

[Bishop B]

I'll let her get down the street.

[Kevin]

When she got to the hotel, I

[Bishop B]

gotta test the water because you gonna

[Kevin]

get to the hotel damn near.

[Bishop B]

I'm gonna let her get to the checkout, then sliding that. Cause you know, let her get done. Cause we gonna stay tonight. I'm gonna stay tonight. We gonna make this a whole. I'm gonna stay the whole night with you. We gonna make this a whole, whole toxic moment. Bust through the elevator, bust through the door. Ken. Now it's role playing, K. I'm the real Kev on stage, out the gate. Stupid N for sure. On some real, though. That is dope. How you speak high. Your wife, though. I appreciate that for sure.

[Kevin]

Cuz it's like, man, I know. Like, I know what I got. I feel lucky and blessed and it don't bother me and they don't. I'm not taking. Like, my manhood is not questioned. Like, none of that stuff matters to me in that way. Like, a lot of times, a lot of times low key men, we have a tendency to do things for the admiration of other men, regardless of the people that it really matters about. About. If you're a real man, to me, you do stuff that you know is right and that you. You rock with. Versus like, if I do this be him think it'll be cool, be here living his own life.

[Bishop B]

That's true.

[Kevin]

He be on the grill, you know, he got the. Whatever he's doing. Like, but you know, you, you this funny thing Happened on the Internet. I know I'm talking a lot, but there was this whole conversation about how men's body types are built. Like, do women prefer men who are, like, muscular or like that? But bods and women were like, actually, we prefer dad bods. And men were like, no, y' all don't. And women were like, yeah, we do. Like, no, y' all don't, man. Men like this. It was like, y' all like, yeah, muscular. We prefer a well dressed. You don't have to have muscles. Like, he probably really strict about what he eats and all that type of stuff. I ain't trying to. Like, women were saying that. And men were like, I ain't trying to do that. Because a lot of times men are more concerned with what men. That's a life. There's a. With dad bods. Taking work. Damn.

[Bishop B]

Hang some kid.

[Kevin]

I know you taking be. You feel me? I recognize a look like me. I know that. Doing work,

[Bishop B]

you ain't lying with a wood hanging.

[Kevin]

You hear me?

[Bishop B]

I'm out. For real. Tiger wood, no ass.

[Kevin]

Sorry. You. You the bug shot. If I go in a car like this out of there. Said I just got off the phone with the President. Car?

[Bishop B]

Sure. For sure.

[Kevin]

B's legend. Get your roll on.

[Bishop B]

Oh, this one. This one, my favorite episodes right here.

[Kevin]

I appreciate y', all, man. I had so much time, man. Thank y' all so much. This is my favorite, man.

[DJ Wells]

This is my favorite honor, man.

[Kevin]

No, for sure.

[DJ Wells]

It's a great episode. We got to do this again sometime.

[Kevin]

Oh, absolutely, man. Thank y' all for having me, man. And y', all, y' all get me out on time. I get to be a good husband. This is a win, win, win.

[DJ Wells]

We appreciate you.

[Kevin]

I appreciate y', all, man.

[DJ Wells]

Before you get out here, tell people they can tap in, man. You got TV shows, you got podcasts, man.

[Kevin]

Tell the people where they can support at, brother. Right now, I got the Bald Brothers airing on Tubi. I got new episodes of Bald Brothers, Me and Tony airing on YouTube. This June on Tubi, we got safe space. And this November on Tubi, we got the airport. Low key airport. I did my big one. I ain't gonna hold y'.

[DJ Wells]

All.

[Kevin]

Yeah, and I don't usually talk like this, but these, man, I had like, 55 black comedians, actors, creators.

[DJ Wells]

Hell, yeah.

[Kevin]

They was all. It was like Nike, ABCD camp. When Bron took over Lenny K. Cook, it was like everybody brought it. It was so dope. Cause it was all one band, one sound. Everybody getting paid the same. Everybody Here for the. For the jokes. Safe space was just like, oh, we really did it. And then the airport. We shot the next month. We really did it again, but it's just on a bigger scale. I can't wait for. And it's going to be free on tubi. Like, that's the best part about it. There's no paywall. 10 episodes you'll be able to watch that. So, yeah, if you follow me, Kevin on stage on anything, I'll always tell you what I got going on.

[DJ Wells]

Come on. Tap in after the show. We gotta talk about Tui, man. Be here and try to get into movie, but that's after.

[Kevin]

Oh, I got y'.

[DJ Wells]

All.

[Kevin]

Yeah, I got y'.

[Jacob Goldstein]

All.

[Kevin]

Be him, the drummer.

[DJ Wells]

Oh, yeah.

[Bishop B]

I love that. I love it. It'll have flashbacks.

[DJ Wells]

Listen, man, tap in, subscribe, man, like he told you, man. Came on stage everywhere going crazy, man. Shout out to our family over at Boost Mobile. You know the vibes. Hey, he told y'.

[Kevin]

All.

[DJ Wells]

You need a new phone, man. Tap in Boost Mobile. Family, take care of family. You know what's going on on. Shout out to Hard Rock BET Be here. And delays will be on the way, man. Summertime playoffs here. Yeah. Let's get this money before we get out of here. NBA champion.

[Kevin]

What you got? OO I. I think it's tough to repeat. We ain't had a repeater in, what, four or five years? I'mma. I'mma go. I'mma jump out. I'mma say the Spurs. Hmm. Not a bad take. I. I'm. I'm. I just. I, I, I. It's easy to pick okc. Yeah, I know Detroit's the number one seed on. On. On the east, but I've been surprised before. I think that. I think the spurs have an easier path than I realized. And I think they play well against okc. I think whoever comes out the west probably gonna win, but there's probably four teams that wouldn't surprise me if they won. No, for sure.

[DJ Wells]

You know what I'm saying?

[Kevin]

Like, it could be anybody, but. But if I had to jump out there, and if I'm right, they like n. Kev knew Spurs. If I'm wrong, it's like that nigga Kev don't know. Either way, I'm the way, man.

[DJ Wells]

Shout out to Hard Rock BET Put the future bets in on the Spurs. Kev, I get you paid for sure. We appreciate y'.

[Kevin]

All.

[DJ Wells]

We'll catch y' all next time we out.

[Kevin]

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