Club 520 - Rotimi on ‘Power,’ becoming a FAN of Jeff Teague & Club 520, making music, playing basketball

Summary

Club 520 Podcast — Rotimi on ‘Power,’ Club 520, Music, and Basketball

Episode overview:
This lively episode of Club 520 welcomes actor and musician Rotimi for an unfiltered, wide-ranging combo with Jeff Teague, DJ Wells, Bishop B Henn, and the crew. Rotimi reminisces about his days as a high school hooper in Jersey, details his steadfast approach to both music and acting, shares the behind-the-scenes story of his breakout in TV, and opens up about Afrobeats' rise and how he balances his Nigerian and American influences. The conversation is rich with stories from the set of ‘Power’, lessons in discipline and humility, and signature Club 520 humor.

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Main Themes

• Rotimi’s multi-hyphenate journey: From a hooping kid in Jersey to Northwestern, to breaking into music and acting.
• Discipline and self-belief: Saving his first big checks, not feeling like he’s "made it", and letting intuition and faith guide him.
• Cultural crossovers: Bringing Afrobeats to the mainstream, embracing both his Nigerian and African American roots.
• Camaraderie & competition: Stories of competition and brotherhood in sports and in the creative industry.
• Inside Power and The Chi: Behind-the-scenes tales and what it feels like to be both loved and hated by fans for iconic TV roles.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

Early Days: Basketball, Jersey Pride, and Northwestern

[09:34]

• Rotimi confirmed he played point guard in high school in Jersey, inspired by Jason Kidd:

  “I wasn't the best player on the team. I was more so just a leader... J. Kidd changed everything for me.” — Rotimi [11:04]

• Reminisces about high school rivalries:

  “You played Corey Fisher in there?” — DJ Wells [12:15]
  “Corey Fisher, Villanova. Oh, my God, bro. Randy Ford... Lance Thomas... Like, it was. You had to either have heart or skill. Me, I was a heart.” — Rotimi [12:18–13:24]

• How he got to Northwestern:

  “I'm Nigerian, right? So everything is education at first... I auditioned and got in for voice performance, early decision, so couldn't go anywhere else.” — Rotimi [13:41]

• Early challenges at Northwestern: cold, culture shock, but formative:

  “It made me understand what it meant to be a man.... You got to figure out who you are now in this world.” — Rotimi [15:22]

Music First, Acting by Fate

[17:21]

• Started singing at age 3–4, performing at Nigerian weddings coast-to-coast:

  “My mom was a hustler...I sing for the bride and then they would just throw bread everywhere... If I could do this for the rest of my life, bro, this is what I'm supposed to do.” — Rotimi [17:41]

• Acting was almost accidental—he was broke post-college; manager pushed him to try it despite few initial opportunities.
• First big break on “Boss” came through a Northwestern alum connection—Kelsey Grammer was on hand:

  “I did the audition 8 or 9 times... He was like, you know what? This kid's special. I got the job three, four days later. They fired old boy.” — Rotimi [19:18] “My first acting class was on set.” — Rotimi [20:48]

• “Boss” led Courtney Kemp to notice him, paving the way for Power:

  “She was like, who is that kid?... It was meant to be.” — Rotimi [21:55]

Money, Discipline, and Family Perspective

[23:29]

• Rotimi saved the bulk of his first big check, at his Nigerian father’s urging:

  “The first thing I did, bro, was save 120 of it.” — Rotimi [23:29]
  “If you really like that, if you're a star, save this and live off of 20, 30,000 and figure it out. And I'm competitive, so I did it for ten years.” — Rotimi [24:03]

• Used acting checks for real estate; lived off endorsements and hosting.
• Jeff and Rotimi discuss early financial decisions – difference between sports and entertainment contracts.

Creative Process: Music, Performance, and Afrobeat Crossover

[27:08]

• Discusses thrill of performing vs. creating, detailed break-down of making “In My Bed” (feat. Wale):

  “Empire said you have five days to make a hit record. My man [Harmony Samuels] said, ‘I have this idea...there's a meeting in my bed.’... Finished the song in 45 minutes, it changed my life.” — Rotimi [34:30–36:03]

• Pioneering Afrobeats in America; initial resistance from radio stations:

  “I was one of the first people in America to take the flag of Afrobeats...radio stations were like, ‘I can’t get the beat, bro.’” — Rotimi [37:05]

• Double album concept:

  “First time having 9 songs R&B, 9 songs Afrobeats. No one else has ever done that.” — Rotimi [67:05]

Acting: Inside “Power,” Fame, and Fan Connections

[41:16]

• Describes acting as an ex-athlete: always trying to “dominate every scene.”

  “I was trying to make sure you remembered Dre...everyone had the same mindset, so that’s what made us great.” — Rotimi [41:28–42:58]

• On being both loved and hated for his ‘Dre’ character:

  “Girls coming up: ‘You cute, but I can’t stand your ass’... I had to realize it’s a compliment. It means you’re affecting people.” — Rotimi [46:21]

• Advice from Tyrese and Jamie Foxx:

  “They said, ‘Kill this [role] and make them want to research who’s killing this.’” — Rotimi [46:07]

Transitioning Shows: “The Chi” and Adapting

[49:12]

• Joining “The Chi” felt like being a “free agent” on an established team:

  “It’s like going to play with Jokic and them...How do I fit in?” — Rotimi [49:15]

• Initially signed for two episodes; embraced the opportunity and turned it into more.

Industry Real Talk: Competition, Insecurity, and Uplifting Each Other

[58:08]

• Jeff reflects on celebrating, not envying, his brother’s NBA success.
• Rotimi discusses how “insecurity, ego, pride, jealousy, trauma” make entertainment a “crab in a barrel” industry:

  “Only our people look at it like that...our whole mindset is just hate, hate, hate. We don’t champion nothing.” — Rotimi [60:34–61:18]

• Importance of supporting each other and being confident in divinely appointed paths:

  “What’s meant for me is gonna be for mine...being confident within self, most people aren’t confident within themselves.” — Rotimi [65:10 & 66:23]

Craft & Technique:

[67:48]

• On not having taken acting classes, learning by studying greats’ eye contact and non-verbal presence:

  “I studied Al Pacino, Robert De Niro, Ed Norton, Brad Pitt...what they did with their eyes.” — Rotimi [67:48]

• Trusts his intuition and God, in both his acting and music.

Family Reactions & Remaining Grounded

[69:32]

• On his Nigerian parents’ reaction to his early TV roles:

  “My mom was like, ‘Why are you stroking this girl like that on TV?’... Then she got the first check — ‘Yes, keep beating!’” — Rotimi [69:32]

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Club 520’s vibe:

  “I hit Mike, I said, ‘Y’all got something special over here... Potent, honest, efficient... People need authenticity.” — Rotimi [09:47]

• On financial discipline:

  “If you’re a star, bro, save this and live off 20, 30k and figure it out.” — Rotimi [24:03]

• On creative pressure:

  “You have five days to make a hit record...my man gave me a cool idea...finished the song in 45 minutes. It changed my life.” — Rotimi [34:30–36:03]

• On being Dre:

  “Girls coming up: ‘You cute, but I can’t stand your ass.’” — Rotimi [46:21]

• On working in established franchises:

  “It’s like being a free agent...a new team, they’re already winning.” — Rotimi [49:15]

• On competitiveness in creative industries:

  “Most artists, actors, creatives are insecure human beings, bro. Sometimes they use the insecurity to thrive, or use it to just hate.” — Rotimi [65:29]

• On acting technique:

  “No acting class, never took a class in my life. Studied the greats." — Rotimi [44:00, 67:48]

• Fan love/hate:

  “We were everybody’s escape from life...people feel like you’re family.” — Rotimi [45:32]

• On intuition:

  “Trust your intuition, trust your instincts, and then trust in God, man. That’s what guided me.” — Rotimi [43:23]

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Fun & Heartfelt Interactions

• Plans for Bishop B Henn to play drums at Rotimi’s next Indiana show [38:34–39:37]
• Spirited, hilarious debates about Afrobeats hits, favorite artists, and danceability [32:31–37:03]
• Club 520’s signature jokes about “freakiest professions” — photographers vs. personal trainers [74:07]

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Timeline Highlights

• 09:47–14:44: Rotimi on Jersey hoops, getting to Northwestern, and growing up
• 17:21–22:16: Early music hustle, chance break into acting, Kelsey Grammer story
• 23:29–26:07: Money advice, comparing career paths with Jeff Teague
• 34:30–37:03: The making of “In My Bed” and Afrobeats breakout
• 41:16–46:57: ‘Power’ — competing on set, being a villain the fans love/hate
• 49:12–51:37: ‘The Chi’— joining a running show as a “free agent”
• 58:08–66:32: Jealousy, insecurity, and support between Black men in the industry and sports
• 67:48–69:20: Studying acting by observation, merging R&B and Afrobeats
• 69:32–70:37: Family reactions, sticking to roots

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Closing Thoughts & Love

• Rotimi calls Club 520 “one of the best conversations I’ve ever had... I don’t like a lot of things. I love this show.” [76:03]
• Club 520 promises to reunite for drum-backed live shows soon, confirming mutual respect and genuine camaraderie.
• Outro: Club 520 and Rotimi set another high bar for sports and culture podcast conversations, seamlessly blending laughs, gems, and realness.

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For listeners:
This episode is a must for fans of Rotimi, “Power” or “The Chi”, Afrobeats, or anyone who loves genuine, layered conversations about ambition, brotherhood, and honoring where you come from while chasing greatness.

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Transcript

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[Rotimi]

Wow.

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[Bishop B]

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[DJ Wells]

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[Behin]

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[Bishop B]

Nasty, nasty. Let's get to it, baby.

[Behin]

N ro, know what I'm saying? Normally he and the black forces with the white laces, you know what I'm saying? It's the weekend, so he feeling the vibes out. But you know what I'm saying, we, we, we rock with stockx around here. We buy a lot of shoes. I see you got the Chucks on. Is that just your day to day? You performing them or how you what now?

[Rotimi]

It's comfortable, bro. Okay, yeah, a little comfortable. You know what I'm saying? Just, you know, it match the outfit.

[Bishop B]

Okay.

[DJ Wells]

It was. Yeah, at one point in my life I was a Chuck guy. Yeah, I used to wear Chucks every day. Shout out to J Mix. Shout out to my. My uncle, aunt man who used to have was wearing Chucks. He was from la.

[Bishop B]

Little high or low?

[DJ Wells]

Huh?

[Bishop B]

High or low? Tops.

[DJ Wells]

I used to wear high. Yeah, I was a high chug guy. Yeah, don't fly. I still rock with them, too.

[Behin]

What's crazy is niggas used to really hooping them.

[Rotimi]

That's true.

[Behin]

Everybody who in the pre 70s, they deserve whatever credit they deserve because that was out here hooping with shoes and no souls, bro.

[Rotimi]

Big facts.

[DJ Wells]

Shout out to stock.

[Bishop B]

Shout out to Everybody in the 70s, man. Niggas are sad anyway.

[Behin]

Dominique Wilkins. Told you, quit talking about them like that.

[Bishop B]

Shout out to Dominique. I'm playing. I'm playing.

[Behin]

I'm playing to write. My dog, Young Nacho, Young Teague. How you what?

[DJ Wells]

I'm feeling good, man. I told him before the show started. My wife listened to his music every morning, and I'm starting to feel a little offended. She don't play my album, and my album is lit. But respect, though.

[Rotimi]

Respect my dog.

[Behin]

You said switch up the playlist.

[DJ Wells]

Yeah, yeah. I was like, put Mariah Carey on something. I know you've been watching park like Strong, and I ain't got time for all that.

[Behin]

Oh, no.

[DJ Wells]

Y' all thought power is bad.

[Behin]

Y' all ain't tapped into new season of the Shot. My boy get his.

[DJ Wells]

I can't wait to talk about that look.

[Bishop B]

Oh, that's dj, too.

[Behin]

I'm tapped in. Yeah, you rock with it. Oh, yeah.

[Rotimi]

Can I curse? Can I talk?

[DJ Wells]

Hey, wait. Let's get the last three minutes.

[Behin]

Listen, man, Long way to episode, man. Listen, bro, Y' all are fried, man. Listen, we've been waiting for this episode, man. He tapped in early with us before we was even, man. The one, the only man we got. The actor, the musician, Mr. Rotate Me, big dog. We appreciate you sliding on us, man.

[Rotimi]

God bless y', all, man. Like, I honestly hit Mike. I said, yo, y' all got something special over here. This was like two years ago. A year and a half ago.

[Bishop B]

Oh, damn.

[Rotimi]

Oh, yeah, bro. It's hitting, bro. Like, y' all are just potent, honest, efficient, and people need the authenticity, you know what I mean? So, like, I appreciate what y' all do is really fly, bro.

[Behin]

For real, for early on, back when we still at the real 520, bro. Was tapped in, bro. So we appreciate that early on, man. It was little rocky. Them days a little bit more raw.

[Bishop B]

Yeah, you was fooling with us in the trenches.

[DJ Wells]

Yeah, bro, That's.

[Rotimi]

That's what happens, though.

[Bishop B]

We was ghetto in a.

[DJ Wells]

Y. Ain't change.

[Behin]

The house that we was recording.

[DJ Wells]

We didn't have no business. You just moved. Ain't nothing changed with the address.

[Behin]

Baby, talk to him.

[DJ Wells]

That's a fact.

[Behin]

Listen, I heard you. You know what I'm saying? You used to? Hooper High School.

[DJ Wells]

Is this true?

[Rotimi]

Yes, true, bro.

[DJ Wells]

Okay.

[Behin]

What position did you play, how you.

[Rotimi]

Went on the court? I play point guard, bro. Yeah?

[DJ Wells]

Yeah.

[Rotimi]

I'm from Jersey. So during big Jersey. Yeah. During that time, it was J. Kidd all day J Kid Kenya Martin, you know, Carrie Kittles type of vibe.

[Behin]

So socks up, baby.

[Rotimi]

Yes, sir.

[Behin]

Tapped in.

[Rotimi]

So at that point, it was like I couldn't. I wasn't the best player on the team. I was more so just a leader, you know, I wasn't OD nice, but I had, like, four nice niggas around me, so I made sure they got the ball okay.

[Bishop B]

Okay.

[Rotimi]

But in terms of, like, hooping. Yeah. J. Kidd changed everything for me, bro. Yeah, it was tough.

[Bishop B]

So that's who you modeled your game after?

[Rotimi]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Because, you know, it was just pass first, but I couldn't shoot. He couldn't shoot.

[DJ Wells]

You know what I'm saying?

[Bishop B]

Y', all, listen, y' all gotta stop disrespecting JK at jump shot. I don't want to jump around on the.

[Rotimi]

He.

[Bishop B]

What? He got the record for, like, he.

[DJ Wells]

Top five and threes eventually.

[Behin]

No, but they used to call him Acuz. He had no J. I was there.

[Rotimi]

That's.

[DJ Wells]

That was me.

[Rotimi]

You know what I mean? But no, he's one of the greatest of all time, bro.

[Bishop B]

Yeah.

[Rotimi]

One of the greats of all time. So that was tough, man.

[Behin]

That's crazy. Jersey time squads, when they moved to.

[Rotimi]

Brooklyn, it was like, ah, I can't really be a Nets fan, for real, because I'm not from Brooklyn, you know? But so at that point, it was more so just like, who do I. Like what player do I rock with? You know what I mean?

[Bishop B]

But what year did you come out? High school.

[Rotimi]

06. Yeah.

[DJ Wells]

Oh, yeah.

[Bishop B]

Killers in Jersey.

[DJ Wells]

Did y' all play St. Anthony's yeah. Oh, shit. They had some St. Anthony's had some killers.

[Rotimi]

St. Patrick's yeah.

[Behin]

St. Patrick's RP.

[DJ Wells]

Yeah. So you played Corey Fisher in there?

[Rotimi]

Corey Fisher, Villanova. Oh, my God, bro. Randy Ford.

[DJ Wells]

Randy Ford.

[Behin]

Ford guard, Villanova B. Lance Thomas.

[DJ Wells]

Oh, yeah.

[Bishop B]

Lance Thomas was that, bro.

[Rotimi]

Weak way was tough.

[Bishop B]

He busted Greg ass.

[DJ Wells]

No, no, no, no.

[Behin]

50.

[DJ Wells]

He ain't do that.

[Bishop B]

We show prayer.

[DJ Wells]

No, it's not true.

[Bishop B]

Listen, bro, this is a basketball part. We really. We clown, but we are tapped in.

[Rotimi]

Yeah.

[Bishop B]

Especially in our era, growing up like Greg. We giving him. He was the best to ever do this. For real.

[DJ Wells]

Yeah.

[Bishop B]

Nah, we remember Lance, bro. 42 was probably.

[DJ Wells]

No, he Was good.

[Rotimi]

Yeah.

[Bishop B]

Thousand percent.

[Rotimi]

Yeah.

[DJ Wells]

Y' all had some killers up there. That's how I'm here for sure.

[Rotimi]

Oh, bro, it was tough, bro. It was tough. Like, it was. You had to even have heart or actually skill. Me, I was a heart.

[DJ Wells]

Okay.

[Rotimi]

You know, I was all heart, you know?

[Bishop B]

But, yeah, so, you know, something shout out to you.

[Rotimi]

Yeah, yeah, it was tough.

[DJ Wells]

That's what's up.

[Behin]

All right, man. So how did you end up in Northwestern?

[DJ Wells]

Yeah, I was gonna ask it West.

[Bishop B]

That's random as hell.

[DJ Wells]

That's shot.

[Behin]

He was always supposed to be in the shot. I see the player.

[Rotimi]

Yeah. You understand. So my mom. So I'm Nigerian, right? So everything is education at first, you know? So my mom. My mom was like, yeah, there's a school called Northwestern that wants to just. You know, I went there for voice performance. So I auditioned and I got in, but it was early decision, so once I got in, I couldn't go anywhere else. So when I got in, it was just like, okay, this is exactly where I need to be. But it was cold, bro.

[DJ Wells]

Oh, it was cold.

[Rotimi]

Big tent. We're sure all like. It od white people. It was a culture shock, you know what I mean? But it was exactly where I needed to be because, you know, I'm very big on my spirituality, so God was like, you need to go there. Because after that, it was boss and all these other things. But at first it was like, why am I going there? I wanted to go to Princeton. Genuinely. Yeah, My. My SAT scores and was cool, but I love Princeton because there's a lot of pretty girls at Princeton, you know, And. And at that point, it was just like, let's just make it. Let's just make it make sense. So Northwestern was the wave.

[Bishop B]

Okay.

[Rotimi]

Genuinely. Yeah.

[Bishop B]

Did you ever tap into the Chicago while you was at Northwestern, though? The actual city?

[Rotimi]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Bishop B]

Going to eat outside.

[Behin]

It was an old block.

[Rotimi]

Oh, yeah. I don't even know if old block was old block when I was there.

[Bishop B]

That wasn't bro.

[Rotimi]

Yeah, it was.

[Bishop B]

It was over. But it wasn't highlights.

[Rotimi]

Like, but when y' all was in, like, being here, like, how many times did y' all spend in Indiana, in Chicago?

[Bishop B]

Oh, a lot, bro.

[DJ Wells]

A lot. Yeah, a lot. Everybody go to.

[Bishop B]

The first time I ever had a jerk was in Chicago. They had a damn. What's the food festival?

[Rotimi]

Yeah. Legendary Summertime Chicago is the best ever, bro.

[Behin]

That's a fact.

[Bishop B]

Chicago, Chicago. Underrated food and fashion is Chicago.

[Rotimi]

Yes, sir. But Northwest didn't change my Life, bro, it made me understand like. Like what it meant to be a man. I went there at 17. I skipped a grade, so I was early there. Yeah, you had to, bro. Like, it was just one of those things where it's like you got to figure out who you are now in this world. You know what I mean? What does that mean? I don't know what I mean.

[Behin]

I don't see you're watching this. Did you see the first answer? Yeah, I wouldn't copy that.

[DJ Wells]

That means yeah.

[Bishop B]

Mind you, bro, this he don't know sign language at all. So that's a bunch of random disregard that going on. Ok. Yeah.

[Rotimi]

But n Chicago, shout out to shy town, man. Shout out to shown Lovely.

[Behin]

So you all right? Be here, man. Let's get some drinks going in here, man. Barbie at work today on the weekend. God is good.

[DJ Wells]

Oh, Lord.

[Rotimi]

That's what that good. Ah, drink you got. You got to tell me, bro.

[Behin]

All day. Mike said you going to be off the tour if you wan performing day.

[Rotimi]

Damn, I'm good. Thank you so much.

[Bishop B]

Damn. You asked me how I was doing.

[Behin]

All right, bro. What we got today? Appreciate you.

[Bishop B]

This is the classic ride.

[DJ Wells]

It's a strawberry sock.

[Bishop B]

Hey, yo.

[Rotimi]

Hey, yo, What?

[Bishop B]

Classic Rod is crazy.

[Behin]

Could be purple, could be pink.

[Bishop B]

Hey, yeah, that's crazy.

[DJ Wells]

Or green. They've been throwing. The green was on the court. We gotta guess.

[Behin]

I know y' all was po.

[DJ Wells]

I know y' all was poor.

[Rotimi]

That.

[Behin]

No, listen, it's off subject, but did.

[Bishop B]

Y' all see Triple cup is crazy, by the way.

[Behin]

Triple cup is.

[DJ Wells]

I'm Classy Behead right now.

[Rotimi]

Og Lil Wayne.

[DJ Wells]

Behead used to have a cup when we was at the crib. He used to have, like, eight cups. Respect. Like, with the headphones not plugged in.

[Rotimi]

Yeah, I just Styrofoam.

[Bishop B]

I just keep making drinks and I just keep, you know, I mean, putting cups on top of.

[DJ Wells]

Oh, man, that's wild.

[Bishop B]

So what you get into first, acting or the music?

[Rotimi]

Nah, it's definitely music. But I've been singing since I was 3, 4 years old. Oh, for me, like me. I was a Nigerian wedding singer at 4 years old, bro.

[DJ Wells]

Oh, yeah, you like me? For sure.

[Bishop B]

Damn, they was booking you like that, bro.

[Rotimi]

I was nice, bro. Damn, I was nice. In Nigerian weddings, they throw money.

[Bishop B]

I be seeing that.

[Rotimi]

So my mom was a hustler, so she was like, yo, you can sing. All right, cool. I sing for the bride. And then they would just throw bread everywhere, Connecticut, Philly. So I was like, okay, if I could do this for the rest of my life. That's. Bro, this is what I'm supposed to do.

[Behin]

But my boy was on tour before he went to kindergarten.

[Rotimi]

It's lit. Yeah. My first manager, bro. You know, so music. But then acting came about when I was broke. Like, I was broke, bro. Like, after leaving Northwestern, all my friends was like, I'm doing investment banking and all this other stuff. And for me, it was like, I just love the craft. And so it's a long story. I try to make it short, but.

[Bishop B]

You know, I talk, bro.

[Rotimi]

You talk a little bit. Yeah.

[Bishop B]

Hell, yeah.

[Rotimi]

So when I grad. So when I graduated, had no money, I lived in Hyde Park. And so my manager at the time, he was like, yo, bro, you're natural in front of the camera. Why don't you just try to act? You know, why don't you get in front of. You know, why don't you go to the city and just see what it is? This is before social media was social media. So you had to actually go and hand your resume in front of all these booking agents and everything. You know what I mean? So no one took me, bro. Everyone was like, I don't know you. I've never seen you. But the coolest thing about it was the last place I went to was a boutique agency, and her son went to Northwestern. So she was like, let me just make sure. Like, alumni's okay. She was like, I don't know if you can act, but I'll take you in because you need something. There was a Monday on Wednesday. She was like, you know what? There's an audition for a TV show called Boss. Learn the lines. You're not gonna get the role because it's already taken. So just get used to auditioning. So when I went in that same day, Kelsey Grammer was basically saying, thank you for all the casting that they were doing. So she was like, yo, you know what, Kelsey? Just watch this kid. He's here, bro. He said, yo, go. I said, all right. Cool, Mandela. Like, literally. He was like, try it this way. Try it this way. Try it this way. I did the audition eight or nine times not knowing. He was like, you know what? This kid's special. I got the job three, four days later.

[Bishop B]

Damn.

[Rotimi]

So they fired old boy.

[Bishop B]

You weren't supposed to even get it.

[Rotimi]

I wasn't supposed to get it.

[Behin]

Your first acting premiere was in front of Kelsey Grimm. Like, that's a lot of pressure.

[Rotimi]

Exactly. I didn't even really care who he was.

[Behin]

Damn.

[Rotimi]

I was on Some music shot. I don't know if you remember when you had the rubber bands, like, the websites. I was passing rotimmymusic.com to everybody, literally. I didn't care about none of that. I was on some other, you know. So, like, for me, it was, let me get my music out there. And then three, four days later, they called me. You got the job. So they fired old boy. So then they give me 150,000.

[Bishop B]

Oh, then you turned up.

[Rotimi]

But I was scared, bro. I didn't know what I got the job for. So my first acting job was on set, and my first acting class was on set, so.

[DJ Wells]

Oh, shit.

[Rotimi]

Yeah, bro. So Kelsey was like, yo, camera left. Is this camera? This is where you stand. All right. These little things are called sides. So, like, my whole experience was like, in the moment, go.

[DJ Wells]

But you learned it from one of the best producers.

[Behin]

Come on, man.

[DJ Wells]

And one of lead actor. So it's like, I guess your learning curve or whatever you want to call it, like this. It's fire, but it's fire, though. You got somebody that's like, him teaching you and telling you how to go, what it should look like.

[Rotimi]

Exactly. I mean, bro, it's like.

[DJ Wells]

It's like learning from LeBron a little.

[Rotimi]

Basically, for real. It's like. It's like a nigga shooting in the gym, like, genuinely. And, like, just killing everybody. And he's like, yo, how long you been playing basketball? This is my first day. And like, all right, well, just. Just come. Come try out for the Lakers. Yeah, and you make the team. And it's like. It's like one of those situations that's crazy. It's just God ordained, bro, because I.

[DJ Wells]

Know he made girlfriends, right? Yeah, yeah, of course. I'm just making sure everybody know, like, you know, grimmer ain't no hey.

[Bishop B]

That's what I was really confused, like, for that to be like your first running, and I thought you was going to say some other shit like, that is kind of crazy. It was meant to be.

[DJ Wells]

Yeah.

[Rotimi]

It was meant to fight. It was. It was one of those things where it's like, you just trust the process, bro. And then the funny thing, too, while I was filming Boss, Courtney Kemp, the creator of Power, she was watching Boss. So she was like, who is that kid? So while she was creating it, it became a situation where it was like.

[DJ Wells]

Oh, it's meant to be.

[Rotimi]

It was meant to be a thousand.

[Bishop B]

Percent always cool, bro. Oh, nigga, you went from 0 to 150,000.

[Rotimi]

Yeah.

[DJ Wells]

So what did you. Hold on.

[Rotimi]

I Was terrified, bro. You getting money?

[DJ Wells]

No, don't listen to him, bro.

[Rotimi]

What? Bro, listen. Keep all of this in.

[DJ Wells]

I don't even know what this means. I don't mean I don't.

[Bishop B]

That way, if it makes the show, it makes the show.

[DJ Wells]

I don't know what that means. What. What are you asking me right now? Just get it out. Oh, we with chime still. Okay. All right.

[Behin]

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[DJ Wells]

I didn't know.

[Rotimi]

It's.

[DJ Wells]

Go, go make sure that ach is on time. Oh, sorry. I didn't know. We know what ch. I didn't know it was ch.

[Bishop B]

Not real. He just like, bro, talk show.

[Rotimi]

Just have fun, bro.

[DJ Wells]

Let's have fun. I just want to. Cause I like, obviously coming from like nothing to something. I've been in that position. What did you do when you got that 150? Like, was it like, yeah, I'm about to find me a nice place or would you like.

[Bishop B]

Yeah. When it finally settled in.

[Behin]

Yeah.

[Rotimi]

Nah. Moment.

[DJ Wells]

He called it a tom. Yeah. Moment.

[Rotimi]

The first thing I did, bro, was save 120 of it.

[DJ Wells]

Wow. You better than me. Yeah, bro.

[Rotimi]

I saved 120 and got like a real cheap apartment in high park for the first year.

[DJ Wells]

Oh, nice.

[Rotimi]

Yeah. So like, I didn't. I didn't spend any of my boss money and I didn't spend any of my power money throughout the whole time I was working.

[DJ Wells]

Wow.

[Rotimi]

Yeah.

[Behin]

Discipline.

[Rotimi]

Yeah, yeah. Nigerian, bro.

[DJ Wells]

Don't listen. Okay, let me ask you about that.

[Rotimi]

I'm Nigerian. My pops is like, listen, bro, my. The cool thing. Sorry to cut you off.

[DJ Wells]

No, no, no, do your thing.

[Rotimi]

But like, my pops is like, if you really like that, if you're a star, bro, save this and live off of 20, 30,000 and figure it out. And I'm competitive, so I was like, what? I'll do it. And that's what I did for the last. For 10 years, bro.

[DJ Wells]

Damn.

[Rotimi]

My whole. My whole power check, boss check that turned into real estate.

[DJ Wells]

Damn.

[Rotimi]

I use none of it. Yeah, I lived off of hosting and endorsements and you know, I mean shout out to amp as well, you know.

[Behin]

So like og.

[Rotimi]

Yeah, just shows and things like that. Yeah.

[DJ Wells]

That's very impressive.

[Rotimi]

Thank you.

[DJ Wells]

Like, cuz, what you do with your first million?

[Bishop B]

There it is.

[DJ Wells]

Listen, if I didn't get that second NBA check, boy would be here, bro.

[Behin]

No, what you do, what you do?

[DJ Wells]

Like for real, like, so you got to think when you first just, you know, obviously taxes hit you, so big facts. I wasn't crazy. I. I signed. I think my first check was. My first year was 1.3.

[Rotimi]

Tough.

[DJ Wells]

So you cut it in half, taking home a couple 700, 800,000, whatever it is. Buy a crib. Well, I rented a career my first year.

[Rotimi]

Smart.

[DJ Wells]

Wasn't too bad. So I think I say maybe like 4 or 500,000 a year.

[Rotimi]

But my mom.

[DJ Wells]

She ain't working no more. My mama was early, like, early retired now. Birthed that, like, we not doing. My dad wasn't like that, but my mom. And they wasn't, like, expensive. My mom wasn't expensive enough. She's not, like, od or nothing. So it was easy. But after my fourth year, I had like 1.5 saved.

[Rotimi]

Tough.

[Behin]

And a lot of people are out.

[DJ Wells]

Of the league after their fourth year, you know what I mean? But I was blessed enough, Lucky enough that I ended up getting another contract. But if I would have just played that four years, I'd have been cooked.

[Rotimi]

Cooked, yeah.

[DJ Wells]

I've been cooked. So that's why I'm blessed. And I'm so thankful for how long I played and I got a chance to play.

[Rotimi]

What'd you do with the first, like, after that second check?

[DJ Wells]

Oh, when I got the second deal?

[Rotimi]

Yes, please.

[DJ Wells]

Oh, come on, man. I went by the crib. I went million on him.

[Bishop B]

He went G wagon.

[DJ Wells]

G wagon. Million. Crib, tough. G wagon. My clothes was different.

[Bishop B]

So when did you start getting, like, comfortable in the industry, though?

[Rotimi]

Comfortable in the industry?

[Bishop B]

Like, what did you feel like? Okay, give me a. When you feel like you made it or you still feel like. You know what I mean? You trying to get to that point.

[Rotimi]

Like, I know me, bro. I ain't make it yet, bro. Genuinely, you know what I mean? I've done fly things as a part of my journey, but I haven't made it yet to my standard. I know who I am. I know I'm one of the most gifted niggas ever, bro. And I have to live that. So it's coming, it's happening. You know what I'm saying? It's in the process. So give me a year and a half and then, I'm sorry, go back to that. You know what I mean? But I'm getting there.

[Behin]

One of my favorite questions, always to ask artists what's more fun, Creating the art or sharing it or performing it. I asked specifically with the music because I've seen some of your concerts. The vibes is hot.

[DJ Wells]

The vibes are super hot.

[Behin]

Cause a lot of arguments on the way home.

[DJ Wells]

Yes. Listen, I'm Gonna keep it a be. Before we came here, we, you know, we go do your research and we like, oh, bro, dropping the album. We blah, blah, blah, bro album coming, whatever.

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[DJ Wells]

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[Rotimi]

Bro.

[DJ Wells]

Freaky. Hold on. I know you got your boy. You know you better got your bag. No disrespect, but my wife watches this and like, hold on bro.

[Bishop B]

It's all she got me in there.

[DJ Wells]

Free singing I'm with the Afro Beats.

[Bishop B]

I got Vibe Afro different.

[Rotimi]

Hey, what's your favorite Afrobeat song, bro?

[Bishop B]

Okay, look, this is about you, but it could be about us, bro.

[Rotimi]

It's about love, bro.

[Bishop B]

You got a song with DeVito called Love Reddit, Love Rhythm or something?

[Rotimi]

No, that's just me. Me.

[Bishop B]

This is you. I thought the video was on there, but the veto feel my. Yeah, that is.

[Rotimi]

That is that vibe.

[Bishop B]

Yeah, that is my.

[Rotimi]

What about you, bro?

[Behin]

Anything I see women dancing to. I'm something, bro.

[Rotimi]

So smart, man.

[Behin]

Yeah.

[DJ Wells]

I like whiz kid.

[Rotimi]

Tough, tough.

[DJ Wells]

I with kid, but I with oak Shorty. This is the keys that you cannot buy.

[Bishop B]

A little bit like that either. I seen her concert.

[Rotimi]

I. Y' all gotta come to my show, bro.

[Bishop B]

What? Your song too with. Damn, it's with Wale. My.

[Rotimi]

My.

[Bishop B]

My brain fogging up.

[Rotimi]

There's a meeting in my bed. Hey.

[Bishop B]

At the Hookah Lounge.

[DJ Wells]

I just left it. I just left it.

[Bishop B]

I don't even smoke hookah. I don't know what you do to these girls.

[Behin]

The vibes is high, bro. I would lie.

[Bishop B]

Promise, bro.

[DJ Wells]

I would love to come down, cuz. That. That. That song right there. I'mma keep it being. We went to go see a house today. Me and my wife went to go see a house, and she played that. I said, she's like, oh, you about to. You about to interview. I was like, yeah, relax. She said, she put it on.

[Bishop B]

I said, no, that's.

[Rotimi]

That's tough.

[Bishop B]

That's.

[DJ Wells]

And I f. With that song. I said, we jumping all over the.

[Bishop B]

Place, but I'm really, like, into music.

[Rotimi]

You singing that, brother.

[DJ Wells]

Oh, I just had some shots.

[Bishop B]

We jumping all over, bro. I want to ask, like, how did that song, like, come about. And did you. It's two part. Like, did you know that was gonna be the one that be about it?

[Rotimi]

That's a great question, bro. All right, so when you're a part of a show like Power, it could easily just be you are Dre forever ever. Right?

[Bishop B]

Yeah.

[Rotimi]

So I had just signed my deal with Empire, and they were like, bro, you have five days to make a hit record. Damn. Yeah, I have five days, bro. Yeah, five days, bro. They're like, you have five days because you got to get back to filming because stars is tripping that you're leaving. Okay. So my man hit me.

[Behin]

The man.

[Rotimi]

Yeah. H Money, Harmony Samuels. Shout out to Harmony Samuels. He hit me. He was like, yo, I have this idea, and I got this Lauryn Hill Fuji Sample. I was like, all right, cool, cool, cool. He was like, it goes like this. There's a meeting in my bed. And that's all he said. He was like, yo, I promise, you just fly out to LA tomorrow, bro. We'll finish it. I was like, damn. Empire just told me I got five days. He just gave me a cool idea. Let's just go. I went out there, bro, and just finished the record, and it changed my life, bro. It was one of those things where you just had to trust your instinct.

[Bishop B]

Yeah.

[Rotimi]

Because anybody else would have heard over the phone, I got this idea, you're not gonna move. You're not gonna change your reality. Even though I knew I had pressure on me, that wasn't enough to make things move. But it was, you know what? I trust it pulled up. Finish a song in 45 minutes, bro.

[DJ Wells]

Damn.

[Behin]

Damn.

[Rotimi]

45 minutes, bro. Damn. And I remember making a. It's like Instagram was like this 2019. So Instagram. I remember, like, yo, I just had. I just made a record. That's crazy. It's gonna change the world. I remember saying that. And two weeks later, it just. It just took off. So then I hit Wale. So I'm Nigerian. Wale Nigerian. Shout out to DJ Money forever. Thank you, DJ Money. DJ Money was my dog. I was like, yo, bro, you think Wale would get on this, man? Cause it's like. It's lyrical. Girls gonna like this. I think it gonna go. And he was like, let me play it for, like, let me play for bro. Bro heard it and just went nuts. Shoot. Three days later, that's his back. So it didn't even matter if I had the whole album ready. We had the one, you know what I mean? And before that, we had a record called Love Rhythm that kind of just started to start.

[Bishop B]

That's the one I was talking about. I didn't mean to say that's my guy, but love rhythm, that's my shit, bro. That's what I really know you for.

[Rotimi]

Oh, that's love, bro.

[Bishop B]

For real. That's what I really know you for.

[Rotimi]

Thank you, bro. So we had that one. But I was one of the first people in America kind of just take the flag of Afrobeats. Because I remember going to radio stations and radio stations was like, I can't. Hey, man, I can't get the. What is this, man? I can't get the beat, bro.

[DJ Wells]

Yeah.

[Rotimi]

You know what I mean? Like, I don't know.

[Bishop B]

I know that be very well.

[DJ Wells]

What?

[Bishop B]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. That rhythm is my rhythm. That's why we tapped.

[Rotimi]

That's why I created it.

[DJ Wells]

Same rhythm. That's a classic bar you just put up there, cuz. D here do play the drums.

[Bishop B]

I do.

[DJ Wells]

Yeah.

[Bishop B]

I'm a drummer.

[DJ Wells]

For real, bro.

[Bishop B]

Yeah, bro. Like, I really like. Even when we first started like this, I used to play Phil for the veto like, all the time. I just love how that shit like, like, I don't know the vibration of that music, bro. My mama hair a little nappy, bro. I might be, bro. Like, I am 58.

[DJ Wells]

Yeah, yeah, for sure.

[Rotimi]

Hold on.

[DJ Wells]

My grade bad. We did that. My. My cousin did the ancestry and we literally got the same. My mama and her dad is brothers and sisters, and then my dad and her mom and brothers and so I know we the same. And she 58.

[Bishop B]

No, I'm really my dream. I ain't been overseas nowhere yet, bro. My first time. I really want to make it Legos Nigeria, bro.

[Rotimi]

Come on, pull up, bro.

[Bishop B]

I'm so for real.

[Rotimi]

All right, let's do this now, right?

[Bishop B]

Like, for real.

[Rotimi]

When I have a show in Indiana. Yeah, you got to play the drum.

[DJ Wells]

Comes he gonna it up.

[Bishop B]

I really like that.

[Rotimi]

No, for real, for real.

[DJ Wells]

I'm looking.

[Bishop B]

I'm telling you.

[DJ Wells]

Hey, the drum.

[Rotimi]

Let's do it.

[Bishop B]

Okay. Don't try me with a good time, yo.

[DJ Wells]

I can't wait. Yo watch.

[Bishop B]

I be having moments on this podcast.

[DJ Wells]

Yes, you do. Yeah, I can't wait.

[Bishop B]

I'm dead ass. Like, I listen. I listen.

[DJ Wells]

Hey, link in bio.

[Rotimi]

Yeah.

[Bishop B]

They trying to P me out.

[DJ Wells]

He just throw eight games. I don't know what the my we got. Yo, for real. Let's do a show.

[Behin]

Oh, yeah.

[DJ Wells]

We got to make it happen. You heard the live show.

[Rotimi]

Let's do a live show.

[DJ Wells]

Let's do that. Let's do a live show in Indiana.

[Rotimi]

Indiana.

[DJ Wells]

You heard it here first.

[Rotimi]

First.

[Behin]

Can we break.

[Bishop B]

Can we break the news soon?

[Behin]

Since we live this come out on Monday. Since we're doing a live show in Houston, you know, say October 4th, be here's hometown special guest.

[DJ Wells]

He's farmed out.

[Rotimi]

I'll be there.

[Behin]

Yes, sir. Are you sliding?

[Rotimi]

I'll be there.

[DJ Wells]

Yeah, we got bum.

[Bishop B]

It's lit. We'll, we'll, we'll. I want it to be for real.

[Rotimi]

Like, you think crazy, bro. Bro, I'm dead serious, bro.

[Behin]

You in the lot.

[Bishop B]

It gotta be nervous off this. I'm have to be sober. I want to be pissy drunk at my show. But if you really pull up, I promise you we'll make it as professional.

[Rotimi]

As Mike, come on.

[DJ Wells]

Yo, this is going to be the best show ever.

[Rotimi]

Come on, bro.

[Behin]

If you ain't got your tickets to show, I feel sorry for you. This.

[Bishop B]

This my guy.

[DJ Wells]

Yeah, the vibe is so good.

[Rotimi]

You think I'm joking, bro? I'm dead serious, bro.

[Bishop B]

I mean, October 4th.

[Behin]

October 4th. We in Houston, baby.

[DJ Wells]

October 4th. Yeah, he's here. We locked in and loaded.

[Behin]

It's on wax. Where we at?

[DJ Wells]

Come on.

[Behin]

House of Blues, baby. Slide.

[Rotimi]

Oh, House of Blues.

[DJ Wells]

It's the vibe. Come on, man.

[Rotimi]

House of Blues, man.

[DJ Wells]

That's the name of this episode. Phil Jackson, Kobe. Go. Yo, man, that's tough, man. That's tough.

[Behin]

Listen, yeah. Obviously the acting side is crazy. You in two prominent black shows, man. First, we gotta start with power, right? Everybody watch Power House off show.

[Rotimi]

Yes, sir.

[Behin]

Hey, man, what's that feeling like to be a part of a show that everybody looks forward to? Cause like, I'm one of the people Summertime, I'm skipping the club Midnight, come on, 1201 stars load up to Drake. I need to see it. What's it like being a part of a cult following, bro?

[Rotimi]

You don't even know you. Like, you don't even really know you a part of something so special because you're just working, you know what I'm saying? Like, you hear the noise, but it's like, I gotta deliver. I knew that every time I stepped on set it was gonna be special. But at the same time, it was like, damn, like, I can't mess up, bro. I gotta. I gotta drive. I gotta drive it. We gotta be this so from again, I'm an athlete mentality at heart. So whether it was Amari, whether it was Joe Shakura who played Tommy, whether it was Michael Rainey who played Tariq, I was trying to dominate every scene. So I was trying to make sure that you remembered Dre, you know what I mean? And everybody had the same mindset, so that's what made us great. You know what I mean? I think you said something a couple months ago. You were like, yo, you competing against your team?

[DJ Wells]

Yeah.

[Rotimi]

You know what I mean? That's really what it is. You know what I mean? So like, it felt that way. Everybody. Cuz we didn't. So basically we didn't start. No one was stars, bro. No one was fly. No one was the guy I could stand next to. Drake, Chris Brown, this and be just as relevant, you know? And. And the battle. And the battle was. All right, don't get big headed, bro. Like, you know, you gotta be on set tomorrow. Just keep killing yeah. You know, I've seen a lot of actors be like, damn, I finally made it, dude. I'm here and just fall off.

[Behin]

Damn.

[Rotimi]

For me, it was like this motivation, you know, I gotta keep killing. You know what I mean?

[Bishop B]

And so does that come from your parents, though?

[Rotimi]

Yeah.

[Bishop B]

Keeping you grounded like your pops and shit?

[Rotimi]

Yeah, it came from just being. Just being again, like. Yeah. But at the same time, innately, like, I'm a savage, bro. Yeah. You know what I mean? So, like, for me, mentally, I just want to just dominate everything.

[Behin]

Yeah.

[Bishop B]

Gotcha.

[Rotimi]

You know, certain people have that type of mindset. You know, some people just naturally gifted. I happen to be. I didn't take an acting class, a music class in my life, so I never experienced what it is to be taught this. I just know that I just want to just dominate. So that's why I trust my intuition. So any actors out there, any musicians out there, just trust your intuition, trust your instincts, and then trust in God, man. Like, that's what guided me. Those three things guided me, you know, to where I'm at now.

[Bishop B]

You got a lot of God given ability.

[DJ Wells]

That's a fact.

[Bishop B]

You are one of them ones for real.

[DJ Wells]

Not to have no classes.

[Rotimi]

I never took class.

[Bishop B]

Okay, so for you to never took class, like, what is.

[Rotimi]

I hope I answered the question, but. No, you did okay.

[DJ Wells]

Before be here and go crazy.

[Rotimi]

Yeah.

[DJ Wells]

Because I know he about to say something funny. I want to ask you, like, what is it like to like. Because you could have been a hated character on the show.

[Rotimi]

Yeah.

[DJ Wells]

Like, people love you and then people hate you. Right. Like, what's that? Like when people so invested in the show and they come up to you and like, man, you got me. Like, you like.

[Bishop B]

I ain't gonna lie. I want me to jump. Cause you don't answer the question. I swear. I'm just giving y' all a quick story.

[DJ Wells]

Yeah.

[Bishop B]

Ludicrous weekend.

[Rotimi]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Bishop B]

I swear to God. This is me, Shelby, Ky engineer, my boy. If y' all watching, shout out to Ky Young. Dolph was still. God bless the under. Yeah, bless the rp, bro. I seen Tyreek get pressed at little Weekend, bro. Recently. This is. No, this is like a few years ago when shoving them had me out for the Dolph.

[Behin]

Oh, he let RA get clapped.

[Bishop B]

I was like, bro, this is. Cause I watch y', all, but I'm not really. They really the TV heads. I'm not really. But I was like. Like, people don't understand that this is just a character. Like, people was really Walking up to him, cussing him out, bro.

[Rotimi]

Yeah, bro.

[Bishop B]

Like, that is really crazy. Like. Like that.

[Behin]

When they hate you outside of your robe, they locked in. That means you're doing your job.

[Bishop B]

I'm like, this is fake. Like, why y' all pressing now?

[DJ Wells]

He let get clapped.

[Behin]

He was out of pocket.

[Rotimi]

But you got to understand, bro, like, we're in people's living room every Friday or Saturday or Sunday for years.

[Bishop B]

Yeah, people just have parties here about power, bro.

[Rotimi]

We were. We were. We were everybody's escape from life.

[Behin]

It's a fact.

[Rotimi]

You get what I'm saying? So, like, you in. You escape to this world, and you feel like you're a family member, you know? And I had to realize. I'm like, damn. Like, we really are affecting people. The illest thing that Tyrese told me or. And Jamie told me. Shout out to both of them. Shout out to Jamie Fox and Tyrese. The illest thing they told me, bro, was they all knew that music is my heart. So they were like, yo, just kill this and make them want to research who's killing this. You get what I'm saying?

[Bishop B]

Understood?

[Rotimi]

And so before that, I was like, man, why they keep calling me Dre? I hate that. That's not my name. Da da, da, da da. Girls coming up. You cute, but I can't stand your ass.

[Bishop B]

I'm like, but that shit real, bro.

[Rotimi]

I'm like, damn. Like, you know what I mean? And then I had to realize, like, one is a compliment. Two, it's also. It's also a testament to how you're affecting people, but keep killing it to be like, yo, who is actually playing Dre? And they just start doing this. Oh, his name is Rotemi. Oh, wow. Then they start following everything else. So that was the illest like, like, advice that I've ever received, man. Like, just kill to the point where they have to know who you are. And that's what changed the game.

[Bishop B]

Yeah, cuz. I was like this. Y' all are hell of an actress of people to be pressing y'.

[Rotimi]

All. Oh, yeah, bro.

[Bishop B]

Oh, y' all are doing what the y' all post to.

[DJ Wells]

He had me mad sometimes. Yeah. I'm over there watching, like, man, what he own. He was a real homie, bro. He's a real.

[Rotimi]

Bro.

[Behin]

Why you gonna get gas when you left the city, man? I was pissed at the other gas.

[Bishop B]

Supposed to go explain to the gas.

[Behin]

Station on the run from the cop.

[DJ Wells]

He just called a body.

[Bishop B]

Explain, bro.

[Rotimi]

I used to read it and be like, damn. I be like, Courtney, I got to do this. Like, these gonna hate me.

[DJ Wells]

Okay, okay.

[Bishop B]

You know what I mean? But it was.

[Rotimi]

It was a part of it, man. It affected people, man. Like, it made people feel something, you know? And so I thank God for that.

[Behin]

Listen, man, now you're on another one of my favorite songs. Rashad Nabihead, you gonna love this. My boy grew up in the church. We always had a power rankings of the freaky people in the church. Now, normally, we give the. You know what I'm saying, The love to the deacons. Normally, they the nasty niggas in the church.

[Rotimi]

Who?

[Bishop B]

My boy in the church.

[Behin]

My boy playing chart, the associate pastor.

[Bishop B]

Oh, he's the nastiest.

[Behin]

Oh, he get his shoes.

[Rotimi]

And I bring the girls to the.

[DJ Wells]

Knees to pray, to pray, to pray.

[Behin]

Pray, to pray, to pray to God.

[DJ Wells]

To pray, to pray to God.

[Behin]

My boy went to a prayer. He said, do you need a prayer today?

[Rotimi]

That's crazy.

[Behin]

Nah, bro. You been getting your shit off, man.

[DJ Wells]

I tell people it's one of my.

[Behin]

Favorite songs.

[DJ Wells]

N. They done went crazy.

[Behin]

My boy was pulling up. It was every single mother who had no at home. He found everybody in church.

[Rotimi]

Can I come inside? Yeah. It was different, bro.

[DJ Wells]

Hey, yo.

[Rotimi]

Hell, yeah.

[Behin]

I want to ask, obviously, you've been a part of starting franchise. What's it like to go into a franchise that already has some momentum and then kick it to the next level? Because obviously it's going in a different direction. Everybody's growing with the show. What's it like joining something already at a status again?

[Rotimi]

It's like being a free agent, bro.

[DJ Wells]

Okay.

[Rotimi]

You know what I'm saying? Again, like, everything correlates to sports to me in my mind, bro. It's like, it's a new team. They're already winning. They're a hit show. So it's like going to play with Jokic and them niggas, bro.

[Bishop B]

Yeah.

[Rotimi]

You know what I'm saying? It's like, how do I fit in? You've seen what I've done on another team. So it's trying to figure out where do I play. What? Like, how do you. How did. How did you fit into a situation knowing that you nice, but they already got a movement going.

[DJ Wells]

Oh, it's different for me. They had enough money. I fit anywhere. Hey, you want me to play the bench? You got enough money? I'll be on the bench. You want me to start? It didn't matter. The check was right.

[Behin]

Oh, yeah.

[DJ Wells]

You want me to. You want me to shoot? I'll shoot.

[Rotimi]

Whatever you. And honestly, bro, like, to that extent, it's like, do you want me to shoot? Do you want me to play. Just play defense? Do you want me to just be a. That's what it was. And like, people don't understand, like with the shot. I was only supposed to do two episodes.

[DJ Wells]

Oh, damn.

[Rotimi]

I was literally only supposed to be there for two episodes. And I knew, I was like, man, like, look, I got a. It's basically a 10 day contract. Yeah, like, what do I do? You know, I know what I've done. But in this industry, what you do doesn't. What you've done doesn't really matter, bro. You know what I mean?

[Behin]

Hey.

[DJ Wells]

Oh, he wanted you to pull it closer.

[Rotimi]

You hear me?

[Behin]

Yeah, he didn't want to do more side.

[DJ Wells]

Like he wasn't. Oh, he's wild.

[Rotimi]

Can you hear me?

[DJ Wells]

He still.

[Behin]

Yeah, he still.

[Rotimi]

You can hear the whole time. My fault.

[DJ Wells]

So.

[Rotimi]

So for me it was like, like being on the show was a ten day contract because I had two episodes only.

[Behin]

Damn.

[Rotimi]

Shout out to Lena Wave. She was like, yo, I have an idea for you. I think you playing a pastor would be really dynamic. Like, what do you think? I said, yeah, hell yeah. That's dope. She's like, I got two episodes. And when I did it, I was like, man, I gotta ball out, bro. I gotta do everything. I gotta cheer when people on set. I gotta make sure every. I was like, this is an opportunity because most people, most actors don't get. Get an opportunity to be on two hit shows ever in their life.

[Behin]

Yeah, that's a fact.

[Rotimi]

You know what I'm saying? So I was like, okay, wow. You know, this is a moment and I just killed, bro. Like I just stepped into a realm of like, I have to be here, man.

[Bishop B]

How the hell do you prepare to.

[Behin]

Be a pastor, Pastor Charles?

[Bishop B]

What? What? Cause this is.

[DJ Wells]

Yeah, look, bro.

[Bishop B]

And this is. We just get our off on here. But I'm saying though, like, you so talented, bro. Like, how do you like tap into that mode to like DJ talk about you pulling up to niggas houses?

[Behin]

Nah, B, I'm telling you, seasons is so crazy. Listen, his. His head pastor had left his main wife for his side piece and then left her for a white woman.

[Bishop B]

That sounds like my church. Shout out to Reverend Johnson.

[Rotimi]

And cut.

[DJ Wells]

And bro, no, no, bro, you know Rev Johnson. Oh, he took my pastor dirty every weekend. Shout to Pastor C. You still.

[Bishop B]

God bless.

[DJ Wells]

That's funny.

[Bishop B]

Pass.

[Rotimi]

You know that. You don't know that.

[Bishop B]

I don't watch tv.

[Rotimi]

That's funny.

[Bishop B]

But that origin.

[Rotimi]

That's funny, boy.

[Bishop B]

You pass Johnson. That's not.

[DJ Wells]

Not the Jo picking up. They thinking about Easton Star right now. No, we not talking about. Think about Easton Star. No, no, no, no, no.

[Rotimi]

Hey, what's the sign language?

[DJ Wells]

Tell me.

[Bishop B]

No, no.

[DJ Wells]

What's the sign language?

[Bishop B]

No, no, no, no. Pastor Jeffrey would never, never. Now that's a common name.

[DJ Wells]

He talking about Jacob. Jacob. The city. Up, boy. Jacob, Jacob. You about to end the whole if you didn't clarify that. We about to have the fight. Oh, Jesus.

[Bishop B]

And by the pocket, it's one N Johnson.

[DJ Wells]

Oh, my God.

[Bishop B]

Jeffrey. They're my guys, bro.

[DJ Wells]

The biggest church in the city.

[Behin]

We're about to be fighting the suits with me here.

[Bishop B]

Y' all got me sweating.

[DJ Wells]

Oh, my God.

[Bishop B]

Sit the down. I was talking about my pet. What the. I was about to ask right now.

[DJ Wells]

Oh, my goodness. His church only got 30 members. We ain't talking about.

[Bishop B]

Can I get some napkins or something?

[Behin]

Oh, my God.

[Rotimi]

Yeah, let me get whatever. Jeff drinking, bro.

[DJ Wells]

Hey, what's this right here?

[Behin]

Barbie.

[Rotimi]

Yeah, let me get some of that Barbie.

[Behin]

Is she still here? Oh, man, I don't even know what to go after.

[DJ Wells]

You sure you want to drink?

[Rotimi]

Yeah.

[Behin]

Our guest have a drink. Thank you, ma'.

[Rotimi]

Am.

[DJ Wells]

Oh, man.

[Bishop B]

Out of pocket.

[Rotimi]

This is dope. It's dope.

[DJ Wells]

Hey said be here. Need some holy water. That's a fact. My mama say that every day I see her. She said, hey, the way y' all be talking, be he holy water.

[Bishop B]

I love my mama, T. She one of my friends.

[Rotimi]

Hey, can I ask you a question?

[DJ Wells]

For sure, for sure.

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[Rotimi]

Were you ever jealous of your brother success as he was coming up?

[DJ Wells]

My little brother?

[Rotimi]

Yeah.

[DJ Wells]

Nah, I used to champion that. Like I wanted him to be facts. Way better than me. Like I'm like I knew I was successful at basketball. Yeah. I'm like if my little brother is better than me, like our family is set forever. Yeah, we go there.

[Bishop B]

Thank you.

[DJ Wells]

I want you to outdo everything I did like ever. So in high school I was hard on him. So when he was a Young guy and he was ranked number 12 in the country or whatever. I would be like, man, you ain't. You ain't shit. You weak, bro. He'd be like, I'm ranked higher than you. I'm like, yeah, that's light, though. Like, you ain't gonna make to the league. And then we make to the league. I was the same type of thing. But I'm still proud of him to this day. Like, I'm so happy for him. He made to the NBA. He had his. You know, he living a cool ass life, so that's tough. I was always happy for him.

[Rotimi]

That's lit, bro.

[DJ Wells]

Cause I wasn't ran ranked hot. Really. I was like. I was unknown for like my whole. Because I was.

[Bishop B]

He a late bloomer.

[DJ Wells]

I was a street. I was a street basketball player.

[Rotimi]

Everybody knew you. Everybody knew. Oh, yeah.

[Behin]

Oh, everybody knew. Bar was cold.

[DJ Wells]

Yeah, they knew me. But like, I hung out with my crowd, my friends was different. Like G O here.

[Rotimi]

Yeah.

[DJ Wells]

Big 50. They. They had a high team. They knew 50. They was 18. They wasn't going to the same parties I was going to. Yeah, I was going. And if you see me now, I still go to different parties and everybody. But I was going to different algorithms. My algorithm was different.

[Rotimi]

I like that algorithm, by the way.

[DJ Wells]

Yeah.

[Rotimi]

Yes, sir.

[DJ Wells]

But I was in. I was with. Yeah, my guy. Some of my friends went to prison, and it's not a bad thing, but that was my friend. I was thinking of basketball the way they. Like, he been NBA since we thought of Young now. I wasn't thinking like that. So when my little brother was in the same position, kind of like Greg, he was 12 in the nation. I was like, oh, we not letting you not make it to the NBA.

[Rotimi]

That's tough, man.

[DJ Wells]

I was always happy for him. I don't have a hate bone in my body. Like, that's tough, bro. I can't. Cause I want everybody to win.

[Rotimi]

That's rare. That's rare, bro.

[DJ Wells]

Why not, though?

[Rotimi]

Most niggas is hate, bro.

[Bishop B]

But since is that heavy, let's just make it simple. Is it heavy in your industry?

[Rotimi]

Absolutely.

[Bishop B]

Okay.

[DJ Wells]

Why hate, though?

[Rotimi]

Because insecurity, ego, pride, jealousy, trauma.

[DJ Wells]

But what that's gonna do for them, like, if you winning, what's that gonna do for me to hate on you? I'd rather be with the winners. I always wanted to be with the winners.

[Rotimi]

It's that logical. Yeah, but most people look at it like a crap. I. Only our people look at it like that, bro. Like we the only people that be like, like, man, that 60 years old and he looking in. But the. The other side would be like, look at Garth Brooks. He's 60, and he's just amazing. Our whole mindset is just hate, hate, hate, hate, hate. We don't champion nothing, bro. It's survival, you know what I mean?

[DJ Wells]

I got everything.

[Rotimi]

It's survival, you know what I mean?

[DJ Wells]

Yeah.

[Rotimi]

Almost got down here like 90. 90. 90 of our people, bro, are just angry at their life. They're not happy with themselves. They need validation. It's a lot of things that, like, if another man doing well, they look at it like, why ain't that me? Why ain't that me?

[Behin]

What he do? Why are you so special?

[DJ Wells]

I ain't gonna say that's true.

[Rotimi]

You don't think so?

[Bishop B]

I don't think so.

[Rotimi]

You don't think that percentage is crazy? You think.

[Bishop B]

Damn near 100.

[DJ Wells]

Yeah. It's 90 hot.

[Bishop B]

That's true.

[Rotimi]

Would you give it.

[DJ Wells]

Nah, like, 40? Look. I, like, look at my man's like, behead. I knew behin for years. I knew DJ for years. And like, to see him, like, have a following people, like, liking, man. It's like. Like, people come to me and be like, beh. Carry our show and think I'm. They want a reaction from me. And I'm like, good.

[Bishop B]

They trying to put me out.

[DJ Wells]

What else? I won't be here today. Y' all want them to see. We couldn't wait for you to say. Yeah.

[Rotimi]

How many. How many people. How many people try to do that, though?

[DJ Wells]

I mean, a bunch of people do that. Like, thousand. I ain't gonna lie. Thousand people said it to me.

[Rotimi]

And I'm.

[DJ Wells]

But my mindset is so different. Cause it's like.

[Rotimi]

It's a real world.

[DJ Wells]

I want the group to win. I want everybody to win.

[Behin]

Like, when you.

[DJ Wells]

When you drop, when you, like, I want you to win every time. I don't want, like, win. Like when we talk about NBA players years, and they'd be like, oh, he. You know, people. Other. Other shows would be like, he got overpaid. We like, nah, break the bank.

[Bishop B]

Because y', all life don't matter to us. And we don't really give a bro.

[DJ Wells]

Like, yeah, what is your life? Your life's not gonna change my life.

[Rotimi]

Yeah, I get it. Nah, I think in the music. In the music business and in acting world, bro, it's so crab in the barrel that. That. And there's not a lot of jobs for African Americans that no one really champions. Anybody. I think it's more like, why did I. Why did he get that? Why didn't I instead of me?

[Bishop B]

But they live.

[Rotimi]

And we just came off a strike, too.

[Bishop B]

Yeah, but y' all live. Y' all live too, though.

[Rotimi]

Okay?

[Bishop B]

Like, basketball players is kind of like, you get paid for, like, literally your production and what you do. So Jeff averaged 30 or whatever he's getting. Like, when, bro, he be. I know you watch the show, but he'd be like, all I need is 14 and 7.

[Rotimi]

Yeah.

[Bishop B]

I'm getting this money.

[Rotimi]

Yeah.

[Bishop B]

With y', all, it's not like that. For real. And I'm not saying, hey, this cool, but I was like, damn, Rotimi record and took off. How his shit take off? And my shit, they probably feel like my shit better than his.

[Rotimi]

Yeah.

[Bishop B]

I'm not justifying it, but I'm saying it's looked at different.

[DJ Wells]

Respect from my angle.

[Bishop B]

Or even a role.

[DJ Wells]

Yeah.

[Bishop B]

Even a movie role. I look better than this.

[Rotimi]

I look better. I sound.

[Bishop B]

I got an apex that only got a six pack.

[DJ Wells]

Like me. Yeah. But I'm saying, for me, I would rather him fuck with me. So if I'm like, bro, got a role, or, bro, music is popping, I'mma post it. And he might be like, damn, he fucking with my music. Damn. Let me do a song with him. Like, damn, bro. Really rock on my shit, though. I' ma with him. That's how I look.

[Rotimi]

That's different, bro.

[Bishop B]

It is.

[Rotimi]

That's why you successful, bro.

[Bishop B]

You know what I mean?

[Rotimi]

Like, most people don't do that, bro.

[Bishop B]

I understand. I understand it from, like, both not saying I understand the hater. I'm saying, like, because people, like, see you thriving, and it's a. Probably a. That's been thirsty to get wale on the record.

[Rotimi]

Big facts.

[Bishop B]

How does this thing. This empire. He don't even do music.

[DJ Wells]

For real?

[Rotimi]

All of that?

[Bishop B]

Yeah, like.

[Rotimi]

Like, yo, how's it's like, yo, it's different, bro.

[DJ Wells]

Favor ain't fair, bro. Yeah, King, I would be. I. I'm. My mind might be. I'm sad then, cuz my mind up be like, then he got W on the record that hard, bro. And you like with it.

[Rotimi]

Insecure, bro.

[DJ Wells]

All right, cool. Most.

[Rotimi]

Most. Sorry to cut you off. Most. Most artists, actors. Most creatives are insecure human beings, bro. You know what I'm saying?

[Bishop B]

I believe that.

[Rotimi]

That's a real fact. 100, like. And. And sometimes they can use the insecurity to thrive or use the insecurities to just hate.

[Bishop B]

Yeah.

[Rotimi]

And Most don't know how to support because they're not. They're not comfortable with themselves. You know what I'm saying? And so, like, for me, me, I'm the same way. I'm like, yo, go crazy because what you do ain't gonna affect me. That was meant for you. Again, a lot of people don't have. Again, this is me. I'm spiritual, bro. I got God. What's meant for me is gonna be for mine. Like, yo, doing y' all like, it was the per shout out to Mike, bro. Like, doing y' all show. We've been talking about this for a year and a half. The timing, the timing, the timing didn't make sense, but it makes sense now.

[DJ Wells]

Yeah.

[Rotimi]

You know, who knows what's gonna come from it? It. You know what I'm saying? So, like, again, it's just being confident within self, and most people aren't confident within themselves.

[Bishop B]

Is it hard getting features or do you even seek them like that?

[Rotimi]

That's a good question. It's not hard getting features, but it's more so I'm in a situation mentally where I just want to just show that I could do it myself.

[Bishop B]

Got you personally, cuz. You doing the two disc is crazy.

[Rotimi]

Thank you.

[Bishop B]

We ain't. I ain't. Well, I'm gonna say I. I haven't paid attention to that since then. When Nelly did a double. So I said, damn, roll them. They're tapped in. Doing double sided. You really like.

[DJ Wells]

Yeah.

[Bishop B]

It was the first time giving both of your audiences.

[Rotimi]

Yeah.

[Bishop B]

What they want.

[Rotimi]

It was the first time having an R B. I had nine songs. R B, nine songs, Afrobeats. No one else has ever done that, you know what I mean? So for me, it was just like, just show my African American side and my Nigerian side, you know? And so it just felt right, you know?

[Behin]

Is there a different process when you make those different types of music? I mean, I know it's kind of similar, but is there a difference when you make an RB record more or less an afrobeats record? To an extent.

[Rotimi]

No. Okay. It's just. It just feels. Whatever the beat leads to, my brother. I mean, like, I just. I just. I just rock, bro. Whatever feels right. Again, the same thing with acting. They were like, yo, the character is supposed to be this. And I'll just. Literally just give what I feel. And usually it works, you know, Like Dre, Right. For example, I go back to Drake.

[DJ Wells]

I.

[Rotimi]

Because it is what it is. Like, Dre would be season two. I didn't have that many lines. It was all about eye contact. So basically, before I got Dre, I studied Al Pacino, Robert De Niro, Ed Norton, Brad Pitt, Leonardo DiCaprio, Denzel. I studied what they did with their eyes, like, what they literally, how they look, what it made, what made them go this way, what made them just angry. I studied what they did because I didn't have that many lines. So I was like, how can I impact this role with no lines to make people be like, he's up to something.

[DJ Wells]

Oh, okay.

[Rotimi]

You get what I'm saying? And so that's what I did all season two until they were like, okay, you know what this is? And then this is like 2014. So it was Black Twitter. It was like, I think Dre gonna take over everything. I think da da, da da. It was just from this eye contact schema and scheming, and I created that and gave me life on the show. So it was one of those things where it's like, just create something out of nothing.

[Behin]

That's funny, as you said, Ed Norton, because as a early marvel, he used to make a lot of non verbal contacts with people. He used to be crazy as hell. So you just say that makes a lot of sense.

[Rotimi]

You know what I'm saying? Yeah, but I didn't take acting classes, so I had to learn from watching what I saw and just feel like, okay, this might work. I just trust my discernment. Yes, sir.

[Bishop B]

Nah, bro, you. I got a whole new respect I with you, bro. But now, like, oh, that's lit. Nah, bro. You knowing how. How you came up in this.

[Rotimi]

Yeah, bro.

[Bishop B]

Nah, bro. I was already rooting for it, but now it's extremely hot.

[Behin]

Before we get out here, I want to ask, what's that feel like for your parents? Obviously, disciplined household wanted you to be great. What's like when they first see you on TV or they first hear your song on the radio?

[Rotimi]

Oh, my mom was like, why are you. Why are you stroking this girl like that? Why are you just beating. Beating sex like that? And n. It's a nice pay bills mama. And then she got that first check, like, yes, keep beating.

[DJ Wells]

Left and right, left and right.

[Bishop B]

Nigga, that's crazy.

[Behin]

Listen, she had my boy up to.

[DJ Wells]

It for mom do so. Yeah, bro.

[Rotimi]

Like, you know, it was. It was tough at first because Nigerian parent.

[Bishop B]

Why all y' all talk like that?

[Rotimi]

At first it was like, what are you doing, bro? But then it became like, okay, yeah, this is good. Yeah, just keep doing what you're doing. But, yeah, it Was. It was. It was tough at first, but they happy now.

[DJ Wells]

Can I ask you. You got. You got the Afro B album. You got the R B album. Like what. What's more of your vibe? I'm not. I know you have Nigerian. I mean, well, you're Nigerian, but whatever. Like what's more of your vibe? What feels great to you, bro?

[Rotimi]

I just. Bro, honestly man, whatever beat I hear, it moves my soul, bro. Yeah, genuinely. Genuinely. Like I. I can't give you like a. This is. It's genuinely. If you play something now I'm a melody guy.

[DJ Wells]

Oh, okay.

[Rotimi]

So everything that I've done, like from in my bed to Love Rhythm to all the records I've done, it's all melodies that I just come up with. You know what I mean? It's just. It just flow. It's like. Like what again? It's the same thing. It's like what made you spin move when the double teamer.

[DJ Wells]

For real, he a Hooper. For real, for real.

[Rotimi]

Like what made you do that?

[DJ Wells]

I love a person who like based their life off basketball. Cause that's what I base my life off of.

[Rotimi]

Same bro.

[DJ Wells]

So like I fuck with that. Like, yo, I had the crossover. Cause they. Yeah, like.

[Behin]

And you a ill nigga. If you spit out a double team.

[DJ Wells]

You go, he's a gun. He's a gun. Just let me know he didn't pass. He said he was passed first. But spitting out a double team. Yeah.

[Rotimi]

Nah, but for real, like what made you do that? You can't explain. It's just about. It's just what calls for it. You know what I mean?

[Behin]

Now I'll say this. I'll ask you a question. On the music side and extra side, who is somebody or some people you would like to work with on the.

[Rotimi]

Music side and acting side?

[Behin]

Yeah, either one.

[Rotimi]

Music side, like in any era.

[Behin]

Yeah.

[Rotimi]

Go crazy Bob Marley, bro.

[DJ Wells]

Oh, okay.

[Behin]

See the Bob's.

[Rotimi]

Yeah, Bob Marley. I feel like if me and Bob linked up, it would be the most timeless music. Acting wise, now I'll go now. Acting wise, shout out to my brother Damson.

[DJ Wells]

Okay.

[Behin]

Killing.

[Rotimi]

I think me and him would do something crazy. You know what I mean? I think that'd be crazy, you know?

[Behin]

Oh man. I'm mad at the times. It's crazy because at some point they should have had you on snowfall.

[Rotimi]

Yeah. We were filming power at the same time.

[Behin]

I know. That's why I said I hate the parallel. That would have worked.

[DJ Wells]

It was like a battle.

[Rotimi]

It was a battle.

[Behin]

Yeah.

[Rotimi]

Okay, so question like Unbiased.

[DJ Wells]

Right.

[Rotimi]

Right, bro?

[DJ Wells]

Huh?

[Rotimi]

Ah, shut up.

[Bishop B]

No, for real.

[DJ Wells]

I was out.

[Bishop B]

I love.

[Rotimi]

I love snow snowfall over the original.

[DJ Wells]

Power N I with snowfall. But like, I felt like I knew snowfall story. I feel like I knew it already, but I knew it. I feel like. Listen, it was a biopic like power. I didn't know where the shit was going.

[Rotimi]

Fair enough.

[Behin]

I didn't never know it's so far, but the fact that James T. Patrick gave us lifelong quotes. He said, tasha, I just lost a love of my life. There's nothing that could top that show. He told his wife that he just lost the love of his life.

[DJ Wells]

Yeah.

[Behin]

Franklin could never.

[DJ Wells]

And I felt like I. I felt like I knew only real.

[Rotimi]

You know what I'm saying? I understand how the game go, bro.

[DJ Wells]

That's my nephew finally made to work his latest freaky mouth.

[Bishop B]

We already.

[DJ Wells]

We don't need no pictures. That's why I met you. I love him to death, but where you been? Oh, where? We don't know what that means, but yeah.

[Behin]

Now while you here, I want to ask you. We've been having to debate who's been number one on the freaky ladder. Has been the photographers at first, but now the personal trainers, they done creeped in the party promoters. They had it on lock for a second. But between the photographers and the fitness trainers want see right now og in your ear, you know what I'm saying? Y' all was number one. Respect.

[DJ Wells]

I know which one. Y' all was holding it down. Y was holding it down.

[Rotimi]

Photographers or who?

[DJ Wells]

Or the.

[Behin]

Or the trainers.

[Rotimi]

Trainers. Arch it right there. Ar right. 1 and 2. 1 and 2. Listen to the music and arch it.

[DJ Wells]

Breathe, breathe.

[Behin]

She doing a push up. Why does she gotta arch her back.

[Rotimi]

Your legs. Toes out.

[Behin]

Man. Listen, we had too much fun. We have to do this again. We appreciate you sliding on for you. We appreciate man tapping in with us early, bro. It means a lot. For real. Does not go unnoticed before we got here. Be here next week, baby. Well, this week when this drop. When your hometown, baby? Houston, Texas, bro.

[Rotimi]

You know you playing the drums. Nah, you playing the drums, bro.

[DJ Wells]

You playing the drums.

[Rotimi]

Mike, Mike, please.

[Behin]

Freaky Mike, lock it in, please, bro.

[Rotimi]

I promise you, bro. Crazy, my dog.

[Bishop B]

I appreciate you, bro. No, I don't even with a lot of people that be coming on here. But genuinely, bro, you one of my guys. And I'm saying that on the Live 5 right now.

[DJ Wells]

No edits.

[Bishop B]

No, no edits.

[DJ Wells]

He's funny.

[Bishop B]

He know how I be feeling. These is weird. I just do the show to do, bro. You're a real genuine person, bro. Thank you for blessing our pod though.

[DJ Wells]

For bro he respect. I ain't going to lie. He want to funnest guest over here.

[Rotimi]

Now. Again, shout out all four cameras looking at me, man. This is one of the best pod. This is one of the best conversations I've ever had, bro. Yeah, God bless y'. All. Keep doing what y' all do. I've been a a fan, bro. I don't like a lot of things. I love this show.

[Behin]

Blessings, bro.

[Rotimi]

So keep going. Keep riding vibes, bro. Respect, Mike.

[DJ Wells]

Yeah. So with that being said, man, October, we got hey, the Houston is lit. We got B hit on the drum. We got Toby, we got Vern Maxwell and then we got Bun baby.

[Behin]

Trail burgers might pull up too. House of Boots, Houston. October practice. Get your tickets baby.

[DJ Wells]

We going up. I can't wait to the Houston show. It's going to be amazing. Amazing. Hey, don't have your earpiece. I would be. I'm recording.

[Bishop B]

I'm putting the headphones on.

[DJ Wells]

I'm recording every moment.

[Bishop B]

Oh man, they already got me wearing shacks on the show.

[DJ Wells]

Just filthy out here. That.

[Behin]

That's. Hey man. One more time for Boost Mobile. Shout out to StockX. We appreciate y'.

[DJ Wells]

All.

[Behin]

We'll catch y' all next time. Club 520 we out baby.

[Rotimi]

Love the volume.

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[Rotimi]

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[DJ Wells]

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