Club 520 - Trevor Jackson on being CHILDHOOD STAR, hooping w/ Chris Brown, DREAM roles

Summary

Club 520 Podcast – Episode Summary

Episode Title: Club 520 – Trevor Jackson on being CHILDHOOD STAR, hooping w/ Chris Brown, DREAM roles
Original Release: January 8, 2026
Host: DJ Wells with co-hosts Jeff Teague and Bishop B Henn
Guest: Trevor Jackson (actor, singer, Indianapolis native)

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Overview

This episode welcomes multi-talented Trevor Jackson, known for his journey from child star to prominent actor and musician. Trevor discusses his unique upbringing in Indianapolis, breaking into Broadway as a kid, transitioning through Hollywood, music, and TV, and the joys and pitfalls of early success. The conversation is lively, personal, and often hilarious, giving listeners insights into pursuing dreams, surviving the business, and balancing multiple passions — from childhood skateboarding to acting in “Superfly,” hooping with Chris Brown, dream superhero roles, music, and more.

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Key Topics & Discussions

1. Trevor’s Indianapolis Roots and Early Start

• Hometown Shout-Outs:
  • Trevor's family is from "Naptown/Marion," and he shares fondness for his city and support for the show's hosts.
  • (04:33) Trevor Jackson: "I wanted to say too on camera and just to y’all, I’m proud of y’all too, man. This is amazing what you guys have built and everybody knows the show..."
• Started Early:
  • Began moving and working by age 8; family from Marion, lived around the city before chasing dreams.
  • Did not attend high school in Indy — moved for work/touring.

2. Life as a Child Star

• Lion King on Broadway at Age 8:
  • Trevor played Simba for three years on the Broadway tour, performing eight times a week and balancing stage, school, and a taste of “real work.”
  • (10:46) Trevor Jackson: "Do that eight times a week... I did that for three and a half years. From 8 years old to 11? Yeah."
• School Struggles:
  • Never felt built for the traditional school system, preferring creative outlets to monotonous tasks.
  • (07:38) Trevor Jackson: "I don't think I was built for the school system. It's a thing that builds employees and not bosses and entrepreneurs... I hated it..."

3. Family, Money, and Staying Grounded

• Breadwinner as a Kid?
  • Though Trevor supported the family, he insists it was always “our house,” emphasizing gratitude and humility.
  • (06:13) Trevor Jackson: "Is it my house? Sure, but it’s our house, you know, it’s a house that we helped build."
• Mom’s Support:
  • Mom ensured he still had a childhood, skateboarding and playing ball; made him choose between skating and performing.

4. On Pursuing Passion and Perseverance

• Knowing His Path:
  • Realized his destiny at 8 while performing, relishing the power to bring people joy and, later, to inspire perseverance.
  • (08:29) Trevor Jackson: "I knew I was meant to do when I was eight because I was doing Lion King... and I just wanted to do that. I want to bring that."
• Creative Integrity:
  • Says true happiness comes from never feeling “trapped,” staying true to passions despite industry pressures.

5. Dating, Fame, and Entertainment’s Double Standard

• Navigating Relationships in the Spotlight:
  • Trevor jokes about the hard phase ("from like age 12 to 16, I was... Come on, pick me.") and how fame altered dating dynamics.
  • (14:40) Trevor Jackson: “From like age 12 to like 16, I was... Come on, pick me.”
• Critique of Entertainment Culture:
  • Candid about hypocrisy, especially regarding public personas versus private reality, for both men and women.

6. Breakout Acting Roles & Behind-The-Scenes

• Superfly Lead:
  • At 20, fulfilled a childhood wish for "Matrix"/"Blade"-style action, even convincing producers to let him audition for the main role.
  • (16:25) Trevor Jackson: “Wearing a long leather jacket and whooping ass was a dream of mine that came true...”
• Fan Encounters & Misconceptions:
  • People confuse him with his tougher characters; recounts being approached in public about roles in "Superfly" and "Grownish."
  • (19:15) Trevor Jackson: “I get approached about a lot of stuff... 'Why you do Zoe like that?' I’m like, guys, it was in the script. I did my job!”

7. “Burning Sands” and Difficult Roles

• Handling Backlash from the Greek Community:
  • Got "a bunch of flack" for exposing fraternity hazing culture, but sees it as necessary truth-telling.
  • (20:17) Trevor Jackson: "If I were to make a movie about a basketball player who did steroids, it doesn’t mean every basketball [player] does steroids, but this particular person did..."
• Hardest Role:
  • “Burning Sands” required deep immersion, sleep deprivation, and emotional intensity.
  • (25:20) Trevor Jackson: "Burning Sands, I think was one of the hardest ones... I tried to not get sleep. I just tried to, you know, put myself in that space."

8. Almost-Cast Stories & Dream Roles

• Near Misses:
  • Auditioned for countless roles, including eventual leads in “Snowfall.” Chosen by John Singleton before the network recast.
  • (27:23) Trevor Jackson: “Snowfall. I remember I auditioned for like eight times... Singleton casted me... then the network... recast the whole thing.”
• Superhero Aspirations:
  • Dreams of Marvel/DC roles: older Miles Morales, Blue Marvel, Black Batman, especially passionate about comic book lore.
  • (28:32) Trevor Jackson: "But a dream role is anything Marvel, anything DC. That’s my dream. I’m a nerd, man..."

9. Trevor’s Music: Creation, Healing, and Vulnerability

• Breakup Album:
  • Newest project, “I Love youe, Goodbye,” is his “most vulnerable,” written after heartbreak and an Achilles injury.
  • (31:01) Trevor Jackson: “I just dropped an album. It’s called I Love youe, Goodbye. The greatest breakup album of all time. Super, super proud of this project.”
• Healing Through Music:
  • Writing the album helped him process pain; music is about honesty and helping listeners through hard times, especially breakups.
• Remaining Discreet:
  • Won’t call out exes in songs, “I was never be that specific, you know what I’m saying? ...I wanted to wonder.” (32:14)

10. Live Shows, Anthem Nerves, and Performance

• Performing for Large Audiences:
  • Discusses nerves and thrill of singing the national anthem at major venues – SoFi Stadium (70K people), Colts’ Lucas Oil (50K).
  • (32:53) Trevor Jackson: “I just performed at the SoFi... 70,000 people. Lucas Oil ain’t that many... I always feel a little pressure though...”
• Famous Anthem “Fails”:
  • Panel jokes about Fergie, Carl Lewis, and the inherent risk—“everybody’s waiting for somebody to mess up.” (33:25)

11. Balancing Acting and Music

• Which Is Harder?:
  • For Trevor, music comes smoother due to greater hours and comfort, whereas acting is more technical, especially in stage plays.
  • (35:37) Trevor Jackson: “I guess it depends... But I’m in the studio every day... comes a little easier, for sure.”

12. Industry Reflections: Directing, Black Sitcoms, and Representation

• Behind the Scenes – Directing:
  • Best directors know what they want and minimize retakes; some pad with endless takes out of uncertainty.
  • (38:58) Trevor Jackson: "Best directors to me are actors who understand acting and understand what they need and go in there and know the shots that they want."
• Black Sitcoms and TV’s Changing Culture:
  • Laments how new shows won’t achieve the “lynchpin” longevity of classics like “Martin,” “Fresh Prince,” “Living Color.”
  • (44:21) Trevor Jackson: "Sitcoms in general, though, are kind of like...they're kind of dead because people are too sensitive."
• Proud to Play a Black Doctor on TV:
  • Finds meaning in representing “options” for young Black viewers beyond stereotypes.

13. Basketball Stories & Hooping with Chris Brown

• Hooping at the BET Experience:
  • Claims he scored the most (26 points) but got overshadowed by Chris Brown (25) in a star-studded celeb game.
  • (48:41) Trevor Jackson: “I had the most points, but nobody talked about that. I had 26, Chris had 25. Talk about it...”
• Celebrity Hoopers:
  • Names Chris Brown, Quavo, NLE Choppa, and others as serious players. Trevor claims competitive edge in his entertainment circle.
  • (50:11) Trevor Jackson: “I was one of the best [celebrity ballers]... when I was at my peak.”

14. Shoes, Style, and “Touching the Grass”

• Adidas Collab & Shoe Talk:
  • Club 520 and Adidas celebrate their partnership on air, gifting kicks and joking about wardrobe choices.
• Barefoot Preference:
  • Trevor loves being barefoot for “the science/electricity” of grounding, often wears Timbs or Crocs otherwise.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

Childhood in the Arts and Family

• (06:13) Trevor Jackson: "It's our house, you know, it's a house that we helped build. And I'm never that person. I've never been that person. I can never be, you know, but there are...guidelines and boundaries that I think as long as people respect each other."

Life Philosophy & Perseverance

• (08:29) Trevor Jackson: "I want to create projects and things like that to, you know, when people are at that finish line, about to give up. Hey man, keep going. One more step."

Handling Fame

• (19:37) Trevor Jackson: “I love fan interactions. I was a fan first before I was an artist...whenever I meet a fan...I always try and give them all my attention, all my love. Because I know how impacted I was when I was, you know, meeting somebody that I looked up to. You can really change the course of somebody's life with one word, with one hi, with one hug.”

Representation & Black Excellence

• (43:36) Trevor Jackson: "I was thankful that I get to play a doctor on tv...a lot of young black men will see and be like, oh, I can do that also. That's an option as well."

Dream Roles & Geek Life

• (28:32) Trevor Jackson: "A dream role is anything Marvel, anything DC...I'm obsessed with all of those characters and stories and I want to play one."

The Healing Power of Music

• (31:01) Trevor Jackson: "I just dropped an album...Super, super proud of this project. It's the most vulnerable I've ever been on record."
• (31:40) Trevor Jackson: "Within the first two weeks after I got back, I made the album and it just...helped me a lot...what I was talking about before, how I just want to help people through those times. That's what this album is."

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Timestamps for Key Segments

| Segment | Time (MM:SS) | Description | |---------|--------------|-------------| | Naptown origin, childhood career start | 04:32 | Trevor’s family, leaving Indy to work young | | Lion King/Broadway memories | 10:46 | Details the child star grind and schooling | | Reflections on family & money | 06:13 | His views on supporting family, sharing joy | | On school and creative impulse | 07:38 | Why Trevor hated standard school | | Pursuing joy versus pressure | 08:29 | Moments that shaped his outlook | | Auditioning for blockbuster roles | 27:23 | “Snowfall,” Black Panther, dream roles | | Marvel/DC obsession | 28:32 | Trevor’s nerdy side revealed | | Hardest acting challenge: “Burning Sands” | 25:20 | Immersion, backlash, recovery | | New album & heartbreak story | 31:01 | Achilles, music as therapy | | National anthems & performance nerves | 32:53 | Comparing big venues, Fergie/Carl Lewis jokes | | Black sitcoms & TV legacy | 44:21 | Media culture and representation | | BET Experience hoop stories | 48:41 | Chris Brown, celebrity basketball rankings | | Style, shoes, and "grounding" barefoot | 41:29 | Candid talk on comfort and science |

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Final Notes & Tone

• Atmosphere: This episode shines thanks to its easy camaraderie, frequent laughter, and Trevor’s openness—whether reflecting on childhood, art, sports, or personal growth.
• Takeaways:
  • Professional success often masks years of unseen work, sacrifice, and struggle.
  • Family, authenticity, and perseverance, not fame, are at the heart of Trevor’s philosophy.
  • Musicians/actors/athletes in the public eye always face misconceptions, but also the privilege to shape culture for the next generation.

For fans and new listeners alike, this is a must-listen for honest, entertaining, and motivational insight into the life of a modern multi-hyphenate star.

Transcript

[Trevor Jackson]

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[DJ]

Nah, for sure, man. Hopefully y' all got two of them. One being able to get y' all kids and share some gifts, man.

[Co-host 2]

Yeah, but if they didn't, how them kids Christmas going, man?

[DJ]

It's over with Manchester. The real grim.

[Co-host 2]

For sure, man. One more time for the good people up at StockX, man. Shout out to the family. Keeping the set nice and keeping us lace. And last but certain, not least, man, shout out to the good people at Chime, man. Making money moves for sure. We got a guest in the building, but as usual, going to introduce him. Laugh. To my far left, we got my dog Bishop B. Hitting out the prairies. How you what? Nasty.

[DJ]

Cool. And actually, let's get to it, man. Got a, you know, hometown hero in the building.

[Co-host 2]

Come on, man. This is our music guy right here, man. So we gonna see what's going on for sure. To my right, we got my dog, young Nacho. Young Teague. How you what?

[Co-host 1]

Chilling, man. Like he said, hometown hero in the building. It's about to be lit.

[Co-host 2]

Come on, man.

[Co-host 1]

Had my nephew flashing back movies and stuff. I said, okay, so I remember him from Lion King.

[DJ]

You don't. Sit your grown ass down.

[Co-host 2]

For sure, man. Listen, man, we got a Naptown legend in the building. Big getting to it since he was a youngin man. You can see him on the screen. You can hear the music. All the above, man. The superstar, Mr. Trevor Jackson. Big dog. We love y'.

[Co-host 1]

All.

[Trevor Jackson]

Naptown saying look good.

[Co-host 2]

What's happening?

[Co-host 1]

What's happening?

[Trevor Jackson]

Happy to be here, man. I wanted to say too on camera and just to y', all, I'm proud of y' all too, man. This is amazing what you guys have built and everybody knows the show and just congratulations for building some amazing rep in the city, right?

[Co-host 2]

Love, man. Shows on some Naptown shit, man. What size town you from, man? Where'd you go to high school at?

[Trevor Jackson]

So I left before high school.

[Co-host 2]

Okay.

[Trevor Jackson]

But my brother went to Perry Meridian. I went to Abraham Lincoln Elementary. But, like, when I was, like, eight or nine, that's when I started, like, moving around and touring and working and stuff. But my family's from Marion, and then I got family in, like, Greenwood Area.

[DJ]

Okay. Yeah, you're a little bit. All over the city.

[Trevor Jackson]

Yeah, exactly. Exactly.

[Co-host 1]

What's that like, to start working at a young age like that?

[Trevor Jackson]

You know what I'm super thankful for at the time? Not putting too much weight on it. I was just doing what I had fun doing. You know, I wasn't like eight. Like, man, I got to do this because I got a chance. I was just like, yo, this is fun to do. Right? And it just so happens that transforms, like, you. You know what you want to do, but then as you get older, you learn why you want to do it. And so, yeah, man, it was dope being that young. And I just. I went through the training process that I feel like people go to school years and years to get.

[Co-host 1]

Yeah.

[Trevor Jackson]

Because I was working with so many talented people, you know, people that came from Alvin Ailey or came from the best music school or whatever. And I was just, you know, always around greatness. So. Yeah, yeah, it was. It was an honor, for sure.

[Co-host 2]

Now, we ain't gonna get too far into it, but, you know, see, I run a joke on this podcast that, you know what I'm saying, as a kid, you know what I'm saying, you was making that chicken. Now, these two gentlemen go back and forth and say, at that point, if I'm the kid making the chicken, this is my house.

[DJ]

Oh, y' all go. You gonna pull a triv into that?

[Trevor Jackson]

Wait, yeah, no.

[DJ]

What's the question?

[Co-host 2]

So how was that? How's that conversation? You know what I'm saying? Shout out to the family, you know what I'm saying? The rinse holder dad is like, all, I'm making the bread now.

[Co-host 1]

Yeah.

[Co-host 2]

But he said, you know what I'm saying? If I make the bread, this is my house. Yeah.

[Trevor Jackson]

I think it's a village, man. For me, I'd be nothing without my mom, my brother, my family, my support system. And nothing really feels good if you can't share it, you know what I'm saying? I always think about even this, how I knew what type of person I was. Anytime I have anything that's, like, delicious, like, food wise, I want to share. I'm like, yo, you gotta try, right? And that's the same with money or that's the same with, you know, anything in life. I want to share good things and watch people that I love enjoy those things. So is it my house? Sure, but it's our house, you know, it's a house that we helped build. And I'm never that person. I've never been that person. I can never be, you know, but there are, you know, guidelines and boundaries that I think as long as people respect each other.

[Co-host 1]

Feel me?

[DJ]

So if you wanted to have a party and Paul was like, nah, not.

[Trevor Jackson]

No, no, that's my. I'm throwing a party.

[Podcast Advertiser]

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[Trevor Jackson]

How old am I?

[Co-host 1]

How old am I? Thirteen.

[Trevor Jackson]

No, no, no, no, no. I still think a kid is a kid. Even if he's making all the money, a kid is a kid.

[Co-host 2]

There we go.

[Trevor Jackson]

I don't think a kid should make any grown up person decisions. Right?

[DJ]

I love that. 17.

[Trevor Jackson]

Yeah, 17. I'd rather 18, but, but 17, I, I think I would fight for it, but if my dad was like, no, I'd be like, yes, sir. You know what I'm saying?

[Co-host 2]

Respect.

[Trevor Jackson]

I'm like, whatever, dad, I'll make the money so I can die.

[DJ]

No, no, you take the trade.

[Trevor Jackson]

He said, I'm g. Get Steve to come over here, put his hands on you again. Oh, you going to get Steve, huh? Oh, okay.

[Co-host 2]

Like growing up, what's that like? You know what I'm saying? Having to go to school, work. But you like on tv. Yeah, you still gotta do chores. But I'm on tv.

[Trevor Jackson]

I hated it, dude.

[Co-host 2]

School.

[Trevor Jackson]

And I don't think it was because I was on tv. I just, I don't think I was built for the school system, you know what I'm saying? I think a lot of people weren't built for the school system. It's a thing that builds employees and not bosses and entrepreneurs. And we all know the world is. A lot of it has been a lie, right? Especially in the school system. So I hated it because I just felt like I was being forced to do things that I didn't love. I was being forced to do things that didn't piqued my interest. And I knew I could do the things they were asking me, you know? So like if, if a teacher comes like, hey, give me six essays. I'm like, I'll give you one essay and it's gonna be a fire essay, but I'm not gonna give you six of them because, you know, I mean, I don't know. I hated school though.

[Co-host 2]

I guess, like it sound like this.

[DJ]

You didn't like school at all?

[Trevor Jackson]

I hated it. I hate, I hated it, bro, if.

[Co-host 2]

You could tell your professor, hey, six, I got one, I got one.

[Trevor Jackson]

I got trouble for it. But I'm not gonna say that. I mean, I'd rather draw a picture or something, you know what I'm saying?

[DJ]

Okay, what age did you know you wanted to become, like, in this entertainment world?

[Trevor Jackson]

I was like eight. I knew I KN what I was meant to do when I was eight because I was doing the Lion King, the Broadway show. And I remember I was, I was looking at the front row and everybody was just smiles, right? And I don't know if they're fake smiles or real smiles, but while I was on stage, people were enjoying life, you know what I'm saying? And I just wanted to do that. I want to bring that. I also now that I'm older, I want to bring perseverance into that. I feel like when you're young, you're like, oh, this is going to happen, it's going to happen. But once you go through the real life stuff, it's the, the gas in the tank gets low and, and there's a lot of people that have helped me through that. There's a lot of movies that have helped me through that. So I want to create projects and things like that to, you know, when people are at that finish line, about to give up. Hey man, keep going. Hey man, keep going. One more step. And that's kind of the what I want to be remembered, you know, as and what I want to represent. Because so many people, bro. My grandfather died last. No, it was this year. My grandfather died this year. But around the same time the Superman movie came out and I was like down. I was sad, but I went to see it. I was like, I got to keep going, you know what I'm saying? I could break down, you know, but so things like that I want to be a part of, you feel me?

[DJ]

For sure.

[Co-host 1]

Sorry we get lost, bro.

[Co-host 2]

Thanks.

[Trevor Jackson]

Appreciate that. Appreciate that.

[Co-host 2]

What's that? Like on stage, eight years old and like you really getting your off. But like, like you really like what's that moment like? Cuz you young but you. Did you realize that moment? Was that crazy or did you have to get older? Realize like I had to get older, okay.

[Trevor Jackson]

I had to get older.

[Co-host 2]

That's a big deal.

[Trevor Jackson]

Yeah, yeah, it was huge. And at the time I think too, that's why I feel like I've been able to do what I've done because I don't I try not to put too much pressure on the moment.

[Co-host 2]

Yeah.

[Trevor Jackson]

Whenever I do that, I, like, try to zoom out, and I remember the feelings when I'm on a plane. Or I remember those images you've seen on Instagram. Like, this is the universe you pull up. This is the galaxy. And all this. It's like, yo, you know, we. We can create how we feel about something because, you know, we don't really know much. So it's like, oh, no, man.

[Co-host 1]

Did you have, like, homeboys or anything? Like, at that age? Like, I had.

[Trevor Jackson]

Yeah. So people that were in it as well. So, like, Lion King. Because it was child labor laws, you had to have two symbols.

[Co-host 2]

Two.

[Trevor Jackson]

Nala. So there was girls and boys. We were young, and so we'd be, you know, doing school. So it'd be like the first from 11 to 4, we had school, have an hour break, then you have the show. You'd work the first hour of the show. You're on stage the whole hour, and then the second hour, you're sitting backstage doing more schoolwork. Then you probably get out of the theater around 11pm you're on a high from the show.

[Co-host 1]

Yeah.

[Trevor Jackson]

Do that eight times a week.

[Co-host 1]

Hell, no.

[Trevor Jackson]

I did that for three years.

[Co-host 1]

I'm cool. For three years?

[DJ]

You did that for three years?

[Trevor Jackson]

I did that for three and a half years. From 8 years old to 11? Yeah.

[DJ]

Oh, yeah. It was meant to do this shit. Yeah.

[Co-host 1]

That's a real job?

[Trevor Jackson]

No. Real job.

[Co-host 1]

Yeah, I'm cool.

[Trevor Jackson]

Yeah.

[Co-host 1]

I was watching pro wrestling.

[DJ]

This is all. That was New York.

[Trevor Jackson]

No, this was a tour. So it's the same Broadway shows everywhere. So it's like, I did two years on the east coast on the roof, then I did a year on the West Coast. No, bro, I think anything anybody wants to do, they can do. You know what I'm saying?

[Co-host 1]

Schedule at 8. The moment they told me, hey, you back out there. I've been like, we should have did it for.

[Podcast Advertiser]

But you.

[DJ]

Hey, you really don't know. For real? I knew, and it was lit.

[Co-host 1]

My dad used to make us play basketball the whole time.

[DJ]

Yeah, but she was playing.

[Co-host 1]

I want to go on that slide over there.

[DJ]

You played basketball at the same park? He didn't take you to Chicago, Louisiana. You don't know the difference how, dude, it's a different city. The weather's different.

[Co-host 1]

Nah, you don't know.

[Co-host 2]

He said he's over east. He's not outside of 8.

[Trevor Jackson]

He's not outside.

[DJ]

Like, by the time he was 10, it was probably Groovy. Go to Toys R Us.

[Co-host 1]

That's it.

[DJ]

Talk about him like, he ain't here.

[Co-host 1]

Can we talk about Toys R Us?

[Trevor Jackson]

Hey, that's one thing I can be super thankful for. My mom, she always made sure I was a kid too, you know, and allowed me, allowed me to. I was a skateboarder. I was heavy skateboarding. I played ball too, but those were like my two things. And at one point she kind of was like. Cuz I started getting more and more into skating and people were like, hey, man, this kid's like, can skateboard. Like, what should we do? And she kind of like sat me down and was like, you have to make a choice now, because I want you to do what you really want. Do you want to skate? You want to, you know, do the other thing? And I was like, I want to do the other thing. But I love skating though. You know what I mean?

[DJ]

Shout out to mom.

[Trevor Jackson]

Yeah, she's a great mom. Shout out.

[DJ]

Speaking of that, how did you balance? Like, I know you said your mom let you be a kid, but I'm sure when you got older, it got harder for you to do. Like, how did you maintain your outside life and your entertainment life?

[Trevor Jackson]

There's no rule book on that, you know, kind of trial and error, trial and error, you feel me? But again, I always stay true to, I think, what I wanted to do. I never felt enclosed or trapped by anything. And I think living that way promotes happiness. It promotes peace and kind of, you know, you're just in a better space. But I feel like people who feel like they're in a cage, whether it's their job or whether it's, oh, I got to wear this or I got to do this. Just people conform, you know what I'm saying? All the time because they just want to like, you know, But I've never been able to do that. And I think that's been a big impact on my. My work. You know what I mean?

[DJ]

Cool, cool, cool. When did you start with them girls? Boy, I wanted the real. Trying to think.

[Trevor Jackson]

I'm like, man, five, four, five. I was getting in trouble.

[DJ]

Like, Trevor's, you so lit. I'm like, how do you know how to pick them?

[Trevor Jackson]

Hey, man, it's hard. I think especially in entertainment, any, in any form, you know, whether it's sports or acting or music, and especially the time that we are living in is a lot of people are just hypocrites in the biggest sense of the word. It's like the girl that says she doesn't want the guy is the same girl that's listening to the music that promotes and creates guys like that, you know what I'm saying? It's like we kind of live in a. You know what I'm saying?

[DJ]

Yeah, that's DJ right there. Yeah, but he always said women don't have accountability. So that kind of flows in.

[Co-host 2]

What you saying?

[Co-host 1]

Stay out of this.

[Co-host 2]

Yeah, yeah, you saw me, cuz. You know what the clip gonna say? Women aren't accountable.

[Co-host 1]

DJ hate women. That's the thing we got going on the show. I said I was gonna end that.

[Co-host 2]

He does it, he loves. He always says he's gonna end it, but always says the next episode. That is hilarious. Yeah, you got a chico, cuz you can sing too. So. Yeah, you was probably wilding, man. I respect it.

[Trevor Jackson]

It's funny though, you know, we all have that time where you wasn't, you know, it wasn't working. Like from like age 12 to like 16, I was, you know, Come on, pick me.

[DJ]

Why not?

[Trevor Jackson]

You know what I mean? Like, maybe if I do a run, you know, sing real quickly, you won't get no hoes.

[Co-host 1]

That's crazy.

[DJ]

Damn, Trey went to a four year span.

[Trevor Jackson]

I mean, God, hell no.

[Co-host 2]

Hey, bro, you was og.

[Trevor Jackson]

You supposed to keep it on BG for the cameras.

[DJ]

I'm just talking about this ain't that. This ain't this.

[Trevor Jackson]

No, but you know what I mean. Like the one you wanted, maybe I was getting a girl, but you know.

[Co-host 2]

The one, you the one.

[Trevor Jackson]

You 12, 16.

[Co-host 1]

Yeah. Oh, every girl like I got Trev.

[DJ]

That's four years. You, you, you, him at that point, you started at eight. It don't take you eight years to.

[Trevor Jackson]

Figure out it went from. It went from. Okay, let's put it this way. It went from.

[Co-host 1]

He ain't getting no.

[DJ]

That is crazy. He was a wrestler.

[Trevor Jackson]

To get the girl I wanted to me not having to try, maybe that's.

[Co-host 2]

A better way of doing it.

[Trevor Jackson]

Like, I'd be like, oh, I really want that. And yo, it was more maybe performative or maybe I tried harder. And then something turned where it was like, you know, you don't have to do much.

[Co-host 1]

No, I'm just with you, like, hey, how's it going?

[Trevor Jackson]

And that's.

[Co-host 1]

That's it.

[DJ]

Oh, damn. My boy, my boy was like, I get the.

[Co-host 2]

Hey, what's up?

[DJ]

Yes.

[Trevor Jackson]

You've had that before.

[Co-host 1]

I still had to be like, come.

[Co-host 2]

On, come on, come on, come on.

[Co-host 1]

Superfly.

[Trevor Jackson]

You ain't got to say nothing.

[DJ]

Right here.

[Co-host 1]

I don't know what he talking about.

[Co-host 2]

While we here, man, you done had some roles. You did a lot of different things, but super fly.

[Co-host 1]

Yeah.

[Co-host 2]

How was it like being the main man in the movie?

[Trevor Jackson]

And that movie, that was an honor, dude. I was 20 years old when I did that. I was a baby, you know? So it was really a dream come true. I grew up watching the Matrix. I grew up watching Blade, so. So wearing a long leather jacket and whooping ass was a dream of mine that came true working on that project. And my dad, I remember when I was like seven or eight years old, he made me watch that movie. The old one?

[Co-host 2]

Yeah.

[Trevor Jackson]

I was like, why is he so excited for me to watch this? But I just saw a lot of joy in his face and happiness, and it meant something to him, even if at that age, I didn't know what it meant. So when I was auditioning, they actually didn't want me to play the lead. They want me to play the bad guy, the leader of Snow Patrol. And it was like one of the first times I went into an audition. I was like, I don't want to do this. I want to be the dude. Yeah. And they're like, what? Well, you know, maybe here's the sides and go and you can come back and read. And that's kind of how that went down. Yeah, dude, that was a dream come true. Honestly, that's fire for pops who don't.

[Co-host 2]

Send to be tapped in with the original. How did you tell them that you got the role?

[Trevor Jackson]

I called him. But then when we were at the premiere, me and him had an awesome moment where we were watching it. And it was probably like my first time really watching, you know, because when you do something, you don't really want.

[Co-host 1]

To look at it.

[Trevor Jackson]

You're like, ah, you know, done all these premiere screenings. I don't want to see it. But for some reason, my dad was there. We both were watching, and then we looked at each other and we laughed for like 20 minutes, like, throughout the whole thing, just because we could not believe what was happening. It's like, yo. He's just like, what? I'm like, what? It's crazy, right? It's a special moment for sure.

[Co-host 2]

Hell of a movie, man.

[Trevor Jackson]

Thank you, bro.

[Co-host 2]

He was a pimp at New Karate. They say some people are method actors. How did you get in that bad?

[Trevor Jackson]

I've already done. I've done martial arts for a long time. Since I was like, yeah, 10. So that part wasn't the more difficult part, but I think just, yeah, Just trying to find a new person, a new character. It's funny because a lot of people who met me after that were like, oh, you don't talk like that. Or hey. I'm like, no, guys don't talk like that at all. It was. It's a character. I was playing somebody else or, you know, I have people really try and make plays with me also after seeing. I'm like, guys, I don't. This isn't some of my profession. I don't.

[Co-host 1]

You know.

[Trevor Jackson]

I was at the bowling alley and the dude walked up in front, he's like, yo, you should see what I got in the trunk. I got some stuff. I said, huh, buddy, I'm trying to bowl, man. Thank you, though. Appreciate the love. God bless.

[Co-host 2]

God bless that.

[DJ]

Don't talk like.

[Co-host 2]

God bless. For real, for real.

[Co-host 1]

You ain't got the.

[DJ]

Where's the.

[Co-host 1]

We usually have a bartender on our show. She'll drive all the way to Mexico, so. Hear that door?

[DJ]

She probably no, for sure.

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[Co-host 2]

She would have been great in that movie for sure. 1000%.

[DJ]

Hell of a runner.

[Co-host 1]

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[Co-host 2]

But that is hilarious though, cuz we all judge, not judge people. We all assume people. What are they characters? There's certain people that no matter what they do, they gonna be that character from.

[DJ]

Tired of how they did Tariq at that ludicrous game. I felt bad for Buddy. I said, oh, no, TV is real. Buddy, TV is real. Yeah, for some people, really be locked in to that shit.

[Trevor Jackson]

For real. I'd be like, guys, it's a job.

[DJ]

Is that the only time that you ever been approached like that about a role or No?

[Trevor Jackson]

I get approached about a lot of stuff when I was doing grownish. Why you do Zoe like that? I get that all the time. I'm like, guys, it was in the script. I did my job. If I was creating grownish, I'd be making a lot more money now.

[Co-host 1]

It gotta be a good feeling, though.

[Co-host 2]

Yeah.

[Co-host 1]

You did your job so well that people were like bought in like that.

[DJ]

Yeah, yeah.

[Trevor Jackson]

I'm super thankful, man. I love fan interactions. I. I was a fan first before I was an artist. I'm obsessed with movies, I'm obsessed with TV shows, I'm obsessed with artists. So I really understand what it's like to be on the other side. So whenever I meet a fan or a person, I always try and give them all my attention, all my love. Because I know how impacted I was when I was, you know, meeting somebody that I looked up to. You Know what I'm saying? You can really change the course of somebody's life with one word, with one high, with one hug. So when I see these artists and people out here being rude, and I can't stand that, that's like, you didn't ask me, but that's one pet peeve. I'm just like, why, bro? Why put the cape on if you don't want to be Superman? Like, don't make sense.

[DJ]

100%. I like that.

[Co-host 2]

I want to ask you this. Did you catch Live like or any flag for being in Burning Sands?

[Trevor Jackson]

Oh, yeah, a bunch of flack.

[Co-host 2]

Yeah, but that movie came out. The Greek community was very upset about it.

[Trevor Jackson]

Yeah, they were very mad. Here's how I look at that, though. If I were to make a movie about a basketball player who did steroids, it doesn't mean every basketball does steroids, but this particular person did steroids, and we were kind of showing, you know, how people can abuse power. You know what I'm saying? It happens in every level of life, I think. And anybody who does that should be exposed.

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[DJ]

What was one of the hardest roles you didn't play?

[Trevor Jackson]

Burning Sands, I think was one of the hardest ones. I think that's the deepest I've gone into something, you know, where I didn't really feel like me.

[DJ]

Yeah.

[Trevor Jackson]

You know, it was just a process that I tried to make even harder than it already was. I just tried to not get sleep. I just tried to, you know, put myself in the. In that space. So that was difficult. And then also I did a Broadway. New York City center on Broadway. They have this week thing where they'll bring back super old plays and they bring it back to Broadway for like, maybe a week. And I did the tap dance kid. And that was one of the hardest things I've ever done. Yeah, man. Tapping for two hours, learning 11 different songs. It was insane.

[Co-host 2]

Damn.

[Co-host 1]

Yeah. That's crazy.

[Co-host 2]

Yeah.

[Trevor Jackson]

Yeah. It was nuts. It was nuts.

[Co-host 1]

How do you get out of that character? Like, how long does it take you to get out of that mode? We talked to a couple other actors and they was like, man, it took me three months to get out of Columbus Shore.

[DJ]

Couldn't get out of.

[Co-host 2]

Yeah, he's still there. Shout out to bro.

[Co-host 1]

Nah, he good now.

[Co-host 2]

Shout out to Columbo.

[Co-host 1]

We talked to Columbo. That's gang.

[DJ]

Love gang. I like the boo boos.

[Trevor Jackson]

Y' all had that for what?

[Co-host 2]

Sock X, man.

[Co-host 1]

Don't send you a Sock X. Columbia. He good.

[DJ]

I fuck with Trev already.

[Trevor Jackson]

How long. How long do we. You said, do we come out of the characters. I think me Shit. Hey, me, dude. I. I'm just trying to think maybe Burning Sands was maybe a week or so.

[Co-host 1]

Okay.

[Trevor Jackson]

But also, I don't. I don't give too. And I also haven't had a role where I've had to go that crazy. You know what I'm saying?

[Co-host 1]

Okay.

[Trevor Jackson]

I like when people change the voice. I like when people change the walk. I haven't had to do that yet. I would like to for a project, so who knows if I go that deep into a role, how long it would take, but so far, it hasn't been too crazy for me.

[Co-host 2]

What's a role that you Wanted or almost had that you didn't get. Well, what's a role that you didn't. You was nothing on. End up being cool.

[Trevor Jackson]

Sorry, say it one more time.

[Co-host 2]

What's one role you passed on?

[Trevor Jackson]

Okay.

[Co-host 2]

What's wrong with it? You were like, dang, I was trying to get it. It didn't work out, but ended up being something crazy, bro.

[Trevor Jackson]

Pretty much everything you've seen with a black guy my age, I've probably auditioned for. You know what I'm saying?

[Co-host 1]

Oh, damn.

[Trevor Jackson]

Snowfall. I remember I auditioned for like eight times. I got casted by. Sorry, I'm spacing my friend.

[Co-host 2]

Snowfall. Which role was you going in for? Snowfall.

[Trevor Jackson]

The main dude they was trying to be Frank Lasse. Yeah, John Singleton casted me and then he took the Cassidy, cast it to network and they were like, recast the whole thing and the new cast.

[Co-host 1]

So you have.

[Trevor Jackson]

So that was the. That would have been fun. But I think everything happens for a reason. I think dancing is a beast. You know what I'm saying? And that's how it works. And that's why I do love this industry for some reason that people may hate it, but I just think everything is meant for who it's meant for. You know what I'm saying? And it goes the way it's supposed to go. So I'm super thankful. Every time I feel like I really wanted something, it didn't work out. It made sense that it didn't happen for me.

[DJ]

Right.

[Trevor Jackson]

And even outside of entertainment in life, whether that's a relationship or a car or a place, I've decided to move. But I really wanted that. And it just works out. Gotta trust the plan for sure.

[Co-host 2]

B. We're supposed to be. Our producer is a jerk because he put in Black Panther. Did you see that, Jeff? I don't think that he auditioned to be Black Panther. That is crazy. He said all black movie. He went to Black Panther. Ain't that.

[Trevor Jackson]

Yeah, that's messed up. That's messed up.

[Co-host 2]

Respect now.

[Trevor Jackson]

But a dream role is anything Marvel, anything dc. That's my dream. I'm a nerd, man. I'm obsessed with. With all of those characters and stories and I want to play one back.

[Co-host 1]

DJ Know all that.

[Co-host 2]

Yeah. They ain't tap in for the Green Lantern reboot. I'm a little sad.

[Trevor Jackson]

No, they already got them.

[Co-host 2]

Yeah, I saw.

[Trevor Jackson]

It's gonna be hard, though.

[Co-host 2]

They could have tapped in with you. I'm rooting for the home team.

[Trevor Jackson]

Yeah, I appreciate it. I wanna do. I wanna do a. Older Miles Morales I wanna do a super surfer. I wanna do a Blue Marvel, maybe, or a Batman. The Black Batman.

[Co-host 1]

I ain't gonna lie. It's like you was talking about ice cream just now.

[Trevor Jackson]

Get you some comic books, man.

[Co-host 1]

I ain't got none of those. I ain't tapped in.

[Co-host 2]

You get one of the rolls, you good for life.

[Podcast Advertiser]

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[Trevor Jackson]

The reoccurring roles forever, but also a lot. I'm a fan of those. I feel like a lot of people are like, those are great actors, and they put them in those. But I've watched those. Every single Marvel movie that comes out, every single DC movie, I'm front row dog. So just to have someone that passionate about it, too, play it.

[Co-host 2]

I think he said Blade. Yeah. That Blade movie ain't never coming out. I don't believe him.

[Trevor Jackson]

I'd love to play Blade, too. Son of Blade.

[Co-host 2]

Come on.

[Co-host 1]

Okay.

[Trevor Jackson]

Son of Blade would be crazy.

[Co-host 2]

Come on. You already got to know what I'm saying. You already seen him. Jacket on, in the kicks. You good.

[DJ]

Blade is. Oh, boy. Ain't it?

[Co-host 1]

I ain't never seen Blade.

[Trevor Jackson]

What was that?

[Co-host 1]

I ain't never seen it.

[Co-host 2]

I never seen any of them. The first couple.

[Trevor Jackson]

You never see Blade as well.

[DJ]

Hey, I'm really the wrong person.

[Co-host 2]

He don't watch movies.

[Trevor Jackson]

We're just talking about the black superhero that brought Marvel to the forefront. That was Blade. Right before Marvel. In game. You seen in game. Infinity War.

[Co-host 1]

Yeah.

[DJ]

All right, bro.

[Trevor Jackson]

That's why I'm Fantastic Four.

[DJ]

I think I say Fantastic Four.

[Co-host 1]

Okay, okay.

[Trevor Jackson]

Which one?

[Co-host 1]

I don't watch scripted stuff.

[DJ]

Volume. No, Fantastic. I seen, like, volume 37.

[Trevor Jackson]

37.

[DJ]

You know what.

[Trevor Jackson]

Fantastic Four, I'm talking about volume 37.

[DJ]

The real Fantastic. Home dvd.

[Co-host 2]

Straight to the gas station. You get this.

[Co-host 1]

Get this on your local. He professional, bro. We can't do that.

[Trevor Jackson]

Just a bootleg version of the film.

[Co-host 2]

It's a bootleg of a type of film. You know what I'm saying? It's not going to be.

[Co-host 1]

Set your camera up just like that. That how I got set up.

[DJ]

Talk to us about the music, though, man.

[Co-host 1]

Yeah, we gotta get some music back.

[Trevor Jackson]

Oh, man. I wanna work with everybody, dog. I'm open. I like being inspired. So, you know, new energy, new music is always fun. But I just dropped an album. It's called I Love youe, Goodbye. The greatest breakup album of all time. Super, super proud of this project. It's the most vulnerable I've ever been on record.

[DJ]

So you toxic.

[Trevor Jackson]

And it saved my. So you toxic, not me. It's not me. No, nobody's toxic. It just didn't work out.

[Co-host 2]

But read between the lines, you know what I'm saying?

[Trevor Jackson]

But I'm super just thankful because I was in a. I was in a dark spot, bro. I could tore my Achilles. I was. After the breakup, two weeks, I tore my Achilles and then I had to come back to la. I was in the cast for like a week.

[DJ]

Yeah.

[Trevor Jackson]

And then I had surgery. But yeah, within like the first two weeks after I got back, I made the album and it just. It helped me a lot. And so again, what I was talking about before, how I just want to help people through those times. That's what this album is. You're going through a breakup, press play on this, you'll hear a record, you'll understand, you'll connect with something. And that's what I want to do is just be honest about my journey and share it.

[DJ]

Because I remember seeing you on them remixes.

[Trevor Jackson]

Feel me?

[DJ]

It was a wild one.

[Trevor Jackson]

Oh yeah.

[DJ]

My boy trying to tap in.

[Trevor Jackson]

I'll just be. Just be doing my thing, man.

[Co-host 2]

We love RB music. I asked have you ever made a song and then you got a call from somebody about it?

[DJ]

No.

[Trevor Jackson]

No.

[Co-host 2]

Okay.

[Trevor Jackson]

I was never be that specific, you.

[Podcast Advertiser]

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[Trevor Jackson]

They won't be able to call. They won't know who it is.

[DJ]

Oh, I respect.

[Trevor Jackson]

I wanted to wonder.

[Co-host 1]

Eight and twelve, they good now.

[DJ]

Oh yeah.

[Trevor Jackson]

I bet you think this song is about you.

[DJ]

Now are you a real Colts fan or you just repping the jacket, bro?

[Trevor Jackson]

Hey man, I'm from Indiana. I'm a Colts fan, you know what I'm saying? Now do I watch the Colts play? No, I don't watch the play every single time they play. But I am from Indiana.

[Co-host 1]

You going to the game?

[Trevor Jackson]

Yeah, I'm going to the game.

[Co-host 2]

Not gonna ask. You got big duties at the game, you know what I'm saying? National anthem?

[Co-host 1]

Yeah.

[Trevor Jackson]

Oh yeah.

[Co-host 2]

Is there any pressure in this situation? Like singing amongst that maybe? I know you've been on big stage.

[Trevor Jackson]

Yeah, I just performed at the Sofa, so. That was. That was the most people I've ever seen in front of 70000 people.

[DJ]

That's crazy.

[Trevor Jackson]

Lucas Oil ain't that many, right? How many, Luke soil?

[DJ]

Probably 50.

[Trevor Jackson]

50, 50, 000. So 20,000. It's always. I'm always feel a little pressure though when I perform, you know what I'm saying? I always think your last performance is your, you know, matters the most. It doesn't matter what you did before. So the most important thing is your last performance. But yeah, it should be fun. Dude, I'm gonna be with my family, people that I love and respect and get to do it for the city. So I'm stoked.

[Co-host 1]

I'm hyped to go to that game tonight.

[DJ]

It's gonna be dope.

[Co-host 2]

We tapped in the national. Em is always funny. Cause everybody's looking at you at that moment. I was like, I know you've been on stage. I feel like that's a little nerve wracking with everybody in the rear looking at you. Cause they just waiting for somebody to mess up.

[Trevor Jackson]

Oh, yeah.

[DJ]

Nah, for sure.

[Co-host 1]

Like what's the old girl?

[DJ]

Who was that?

[Co-host 1]

Fergie.

[Co-host 2]

Oh, listen.

[DJ]

Yeah, she destroyed.

[Co-host 2]

Fergie has one of the worst national anthems of all time.

[DJ]

She destroyed.

[Co-host 1]

Now who old boy that stopped in the middle of his like Carl, what was it? The runner?

[DJ]

Winslow?

[Co-host 1]

Nah, nah. Called. He was a sprinter.

[Co-host 2]

You just gotta look away.

[DJ]

I like the Labubu back here.

[Co-host 1]

Yeah, don't worry about. He got good. He was a sprinter, bro. He's on the national anthem.

[Co-host 2]

Carl Lewis?

[Co-host 1]

Yeah, Carl Lewis.

[Co-host 2]

Oh, yeah. The Carl Lewis one is nasty being up there. He stopped in the middle and said.

[Trevor Jackson]

Oh.

[DJ]

He forgot.

[Co-host 1]

You do that tonight, bro?

[Trevor Jackson]

No, no, no.

[DJ]

Crim's cool, bro.

[Co-host 2]

Now go ahead, load it up, man. Carlos out of the box.

[Co-host 1]

Hold on, hold on.

[DJ]

Let me see this. What you talking?

[Co-host 1]

It was hilarious.

[DJ]

You being messy.

[Trevor Jackson]

I just want to see what he's talking about. I don't think I've ever seen it.

[Co-host 1]

Yeah.

[Co-host 2]

Hear me out.

[DJ]

That need. Forgot the words. No, he forgot the words, bro. You never seen that?

[Co-host 2]

No.

[Trevor Jackson]

Only give him a hug, bro.

[DJ]

That's a classic, bro.

[Co-host 2]

Bad.

[DJ]

I'm feel bad.

[Trevor Jackson]

And he's wrong as hell for that. He's wrong laughing at you.

[DJ]

That's a classic video.

[Co-host 2]

First of all, I didn't get the.

[Co-host 1]

That's. The bulls are there, bro.

[Co-host 2]

I didn't know he did that in the presence of Michael Jordan. He is really out of pocket.

[Trevor Jackson]

Violating outfit is crazy too.

[DJ]

Y the hell would you invite him to come sing that anyway?

[Co-host 1]

Carl Lewis, bro, respect.

[DJ]

My music or acting?

[Trevor Jackson]

I guess it depends. It depends on the role. It depends on the role, right? How much the role demands. Yeah, I think music to me comes a little bit easier just because I feel like I have more hours in there. You know, you work on a set when you get booked for a job. But I'm in the studio every day. You know what I'm saying? I'm working on Music. I'm listening to music. I'm editing a song, going back, rewriting a song. So I'm always in there. So it comes a little easier, for sure.

[Co-host 2]

You know?

[Trevor Jackson]

And especially when I have sessions and stuff, like, it just be flowing. I absolutely love it.

[Co-host 2]

Is there any differences in performing music and then performing, like, say, a live play or a live action situation?

[Trevor Jackson]

So, sorry, say, one more time.

[Co-host 2]

Is there any difference between the two for you? I know obviously you're pretty good at what you do, but is there a difference when you're performing your music on stage, or is there a difference when you're, like, doing a live play or something like that? Is there different?

[Trevor Jackson]

A live play? Oh, okay.

[Co-host 1]

Okay.

[Trevor Jackson]

Dude, I'm gonna be honest. When I'm doing the play was one of the hardest things. Cause it's not just the song, right? You're, like, remembering to act and you're still dancing and you're moving your breath work and all that. Like, that's just way more difficult when I'm doing my music. It's my show, and if I want to take a seat, I'm gonna take a seat. If I need some water, I'm like, hold on. You know what I mean? I can. I can do what I want, but if it's someone else's production, I gotta do the job for sure.

[Co-host 1]

Ain't no way. We did a commercial here the other day, and we had 17 takes. I said two words.

[Trevor Jackson]

That's small. That's not. That's not that many takes for eight hours.

[Co-host 1]

Ain't no way. Eight hours. Ain't no way.

[DJ]

We was here for eight hours, bro. Bro.

[Co-host 1]

Damn. I got a lot of respect for you, man. You was elite, man. Hell no.

[DJ]

He got it now, though, bro. He ate.

[Co-host 2]

Thanks, bro.

[DJ]

He was eight now.

[Co-host 1]

We did that for eight hours.

[DJ]

You were complaining.

[Co-host 1]

I said, what's up, bro?

[Co-host 2]

Wait, somebody. What?

[Trevor Jackson]

I've been on set for 17 hours. 18 hours. Hey, man. And it also depends, too. Again, it's like, is it something you really want to do? And that is a difference, too. Like, if we're doing it for. Because I've definitely done stuff for money, right? Where I'm like, okay. I just. This ain't really what I want, But I'm gonna get a little bag off this. I'm probably gonna be looking at the phone a little more. But if it's like, yo, I'm getting to do this thing, you know, it's a little bit different. So I guess it just kind of depends on. On what it Is.

[DJ]

Yeah, he complained the whole day.

[Co-host 1]

I just asked why I got two words and I gotta be here this long. Like, I'm a one. I'm like, ho.

[Trevor Jackson]

In the booth.

[Co-host 1]

Like, one take, that's all I need.

[Trevor Jackson]

He said, I gave you what you need.

[Co-host 1]

Yeah, I got.

[DJ]

He did only say when I. When he said it, I had to think about, like, damn, you did only say two words.

[Co-host 1]

I said two words. I said, what up, bro? Eight hours later, what up, bro?

[Co-host 2]

Golden Globes.

[DJ]

No, it's no disrespect. I just want to know, like, what is the point of all that time being taken up?

[Trevor Jackson]

Like, well, that can also be this. Look, sometimes there's a Cuz I've also been here, right? So when you're working on a show. So like, I'm on Grey's Anatomy, right? And you have different directors or grownish, you have different directors. Sometimes they bring a director who maybe, yes, they've done stuff, but they might not know what they want. And a lot of actors don't like directors like that. Because you have me here all day. Because you don't know what you want. So you're trying to cover your butt by shooting every shot, every angle, all the wides, all the mediums. Let me come here. So that in the editing room, you have more freedom. But the best directors, to me, the best directors are actors who understand acting and understand what they need and go in there and know the shots that they want. They'll be like, okay, boom. All right, let's move in tighter.

[Co-host 1]

Boom.

[Trevor Jackson]

Okay, let's turn around.

[Co-host 1]

Boom.

[Trevor Jackson]

Okay, And I need one more of this. Boom. Instead of people like, oh, what if we. You know what I mean? Now we gotta be here while you trying to. You know what I'm saying?

[Co-host 2]

Yeah.

[Trevor Jackson]

So I guess it just. It depends on the person too. Directing.

[DJ]

Nah, Juan is the best. You know what I mean? Our boy Juan, he did it. We used to. Juan, we never did it before. So we like, bro, if we only saying this. You know what I mean? Minimum word. Why the hell are we here For a whole workshop?

[Co-host 2]

Trust. Process man came out dope as well.

[Co-host 1]

I gotta ask him about that.

[Co-host 2]

Definitely being on.

[Trevor Jackson]

Y' all are funny. All three actually love it.

[DJ]

We love him.

[Trevor Jackson]

It's incredible, no?

[Podcast Advertiser]

Yeah.

[Co-host 1]

No, they was.

[Trevor Jackson]

I can't wait to see.

[DJ]

It took us eight hours to do.

[Co-host 1]

Like, we was locked in for. It was a one minute video.

[DJ]

Literally.

[Co-host 1]

I said two words, right? I loved it, but I just couldn't believe I had to be there that long.

[DJ]

I said, I ain't order shit. Nasty, you about to play it.

[Trevor Jackson]

Let me see, let me see.

[Co-host 2]

Listen, we appreciate y'.

[Trevor Jackson]

All.

[Co-host 2]

We'll catch y' all next time. Club 520, we out. All right.

[DJ]

Good stuff, y'.

[Co-host 2]

All.

[Co-host 1]

Yo, what's good, bro?

[Trevor Jackson]

Yo, he did the same way. Congratulations.

[Co-host 2]

Welcome to the family.

[DJ]

I left a care package by y' all front door, so just go check it out. Let me know what you think.

[Trevor Jackson]

Peace.

[DJ]

Damn, who pulling up? I ain't order shit.

[Co-host 2]

There goes B. Hins, goes mine.

[DJ]

Yes, sir. Adidas family now.

[Co-host 1]

I'm back.

[Co-host 2]

We got.

[DJ]

Hey, Club 520, Adidas collab. Fire, y' all out the gate.

[Co-host 1]

Nasty the hard and 10.

[DJ]

I'm raw.

[Co-host 1]

These raw.

[Trevor Jackson]

Those are hard, silly.

[Co-host 2]

They were crazy. Shout out.

[DJ]

Welcome to the fam, though.

[Co-host 2]

My guy.

[Co-host 1]

Man, we appreciate you family like this history right here.

[DJ]

You know what I'm saying? Y' all deserve it, bro. The first podcast with a shoe deal. We grateful. Yeah. That's eight out.

[Trevor Jackson]

Let's go, black man.

[DJ]

All right, let's go.

[Co-host 2]

Right on, right on.

[Trevor Jackson]

Adidas, man.

[Co-host 2]

One time for the one time. Adidas tapping in.

[Trevor Jackson]

That's fire. That's fire.

[Co-host 1]

You want some? I get you some Superstars.

[Trevor Jackson]

Please. Yeah, please.

[Co-host 1]

All white.

[Podcast Advertiser]

Come on.

[Co-host 2]

We'll let you pick your own color.

[Trevor Jackson]

I'll take the all white joints.

[Co-host 1]

Oh, yeah. See? Yeah, he classic pair when you see one.

[DJ]

Respect.

[Co-host 1]

Look, man, they give it hard. So I wear these every day.

[Trevor Jackson]

Well, those are cool.

[Co-host 1]

Those are classic for sure. He a good dude, man.

[Trevor Jackson]

He a lot to.

[DJ]

What are these right here? These are Adidas, but, yeah, they're bad bunnies. Oh, no.

[Co-host 2]

Dope.

[DJ]

Yeah, bad bunnies.

[Co-host 2]

Yeah. I ain't get the memo today, man. Talk good.

[Co-host 1]

Shout out to my D, man.

[Trevor Jackson]

I got the Tims on, you feel me?

[Co-host 1]

No, my.

[DJ]

Now, okay, we here. Cause we talking about how dusty he is. So how many times are you gonna wear a pair of shoes, like, throughout the week?

[Trevor Jackson]

The same pair?

[DJ]

Yeah.

[Co-host 1]

Oh.

[Trevor Jackson]

However many times I feel.

[Co-host 1]

Feel like it.

[Trevor Jackson]

You know what I mean? I don't have, like a rule room.

[Co-host 2]

I don't have any.

[Trevor Jackson]

I don't have a rule sometimes.

[DJ]

How many times have you barefoot done it?

[Trevor Jackson]

Oh, yeah, I prefer to be barefoot. But if I have to wear.

[Co-host 2]

That's the kung fu coming out.

[Trevor Jackson]

If I have to wear shoes, I'll probably wear a Tim or a Croc.

[DJ]

You took me before a loop with that. I ain't never been stuck on the show. That one. That one got me playing it. Dj. What else you got?

[Trevor Jackson]

Hey, man, I like to touch the grass. You know what I'm saying? If I'm touching grass or touch earth.

[DJ]

It'S actually really good.

[Trevor Jackson]

Because, you know, the bottom of most tennis shoes is rubber. Disconnect you from does for sure.

[Co-host 1]

That's it.

[Co-host 2]

We ain't do the science. It's the science.

[Trevor Jackson]

There's science behind it, you know, it ain't a conductor, it's a muter. It mutes the electricity in your body. Sorry, let's move on.

[Co-host 2]

He locked in for sure.

[Co-host 1]

I'm glad you bought some shoes in here.

[Co-host 2]

We appreciate you not coming on for.

[DJ]

You need your ass. You walking around outside la. Took my feet out, no shoes on. You get too much money.

[Co-host 2]

He about to go to sk. They got.

[DJ]

They got to find a before to play it down barefoot. For real, for real, for real.

[Trevor Jackson]

We know just the guy.

[DJ]

He loves being barefoot. That's crazy.

[Co-host 2]

What's it like joining the show with such a heavy cult following? Cuz like, I imagine that fan base, as soon as you pop into an episode, they either hate you or love you, but they locked in either way.

[Trevor Jackson]

Yeah. Thankfully, it's been all love. And I think the most amazing part is the people on that show, man. The cast, the crew, producers, but as people, not just like what they do their job with. Like, as people. They're warm, they are welcoming, they're supportive. And that's all you want as a. As an actor. You want to feel safe to make choices. You want to feel safe and feel protected. Nobody wants me to look bad here. We all want to win. You feel me?

[Podcast Advertiser]

Me.

[Trevor Jackson]

So it's. It's really an honor to be on that show. And for me, coming off grownish.

[Co-host 1]

Yeah.

[Trevor Jackson]

And I'm always kind of like, particular about the roles I pick. Right. You know, so I was thankful that I get to play a doctor on tv. And that is. That is what a lot of, you know, young black men will see and be like, oh, I can do that also. That's an option as well. I don't have to be a rapper or I don't have to. Nothing wrong with any of these things, I'm saying. You know what I'm saying? But there's a lot of things that they put, this is what you can do and this is it right here. So I like to always kind of widen that space for young black men to see. Thankful for, for sure.

[Co-host 2]

And we were just talking about this, like, I mean, obviously these shows is like the stories that our parents grew up on. They gonna be on long after we. Gone.

[Co-host 1]

Yeah.

[Co-host 2]

So to be a part of that, lynch is crazy. But do you ever think we'll get to a point to where we'll have black sitcoms, like, regularly again? Like, we got Martin going.

[Trevor Jackson]

Sitcoms in general, though, are kind of like. They're kind of dead because people are too sensitive. That's why. You know, I feel like sitcoms are just kind of like families. And what families would say in their crib, which families wouldn't say out and, you know, public.

[Co-host 2]

Yeah.

[Trevor Jackson]

But you. It felt like you were in a. You know, being able to watch them through a hole in the wall. And that's why people loved it. You know what I'm saying? But now I think people are just too. I don't know. But that is true. I mean, I'm trying to think, what's the last sitcom, really, that was like. I mean, I don't. I wouldn't count Grown Ish as a sitcom. That's more like a. Would you count, like, Blackish and Grown Ish as a situation?

[DJ]

Huh?

[Co-host 2]

I mean, for this generation, I mean, it would qualify. I don't think it is.

[Trevor Jackson]

But it's not really Sit Commie, though. You know what I mean? Like a Martin or like a Fresh Prince. It's not like a. Yeah, I mean.

[Co-host 2]

Even something like we was talking about it, like, Mike Epps had one, Marlon had one.

[Co-host 1]

Like.

[Co-host 2]

Oh, yeah, yeah, I remember that.

[Trevor Jackson]

I remember that.

[Co-host 1]

But we just don't get the same traction.

[Co-host 2]

But it's not syndicated as well. Like, being on them shows was that. But.

[Trevor Jackson]

Right.

[Co-host 2]

It just molded a lot of us. I know, you being the industry, I wonder, is that a thing? But. Yeah, that makes sense. Yeah.

[Trevor Jackson]

Yeah. No, I definitely think it's a dying art. I also miss sketch shows, like, other than snl. Remember when we were young, like, all that and all those different, like. And people were seeing kids being super creative. I feel like now it's either like super kiddie stuff or grown stuff. There's not like a.

[Co-host 1]

In between. Need a living color type thing. You know what I'm saying?

[DJ]

That's. Damn. They're streaming now, though.

[Co-host 1]

You think so?

[DJ]

Yeah.

[Co-host 1]

I mean, you do do a lot.

[DJ]

Of sketches, like Drew Skin, like Cassanet and Drew Ski and all them. They kind of. It's not the same, but it give.

[Trevor Jackson]

You that same feel, that same feel, that same feel.

[Co-host 1]

That's a great point right there.

[Co-host 2]

The Mad TVs of the world. Yeah. Mad T. Come on, bro. He's having a lot of.

[Trevor Jackson]

He looking like a man.

[Co-host 2]

He was Cold quality. All that's. All that is top tier show.

[Trevor Jackson]

Yeah. All that was great.

[Co-host 2]

Yeah, all that was fire, bro.

[Trevor Jackson]

You guys have a favorite, favorite childhood show?

[Co-host 1]

Favorite childhood bro.

[Trevor Jackson]

I mean, what's the one that come to top my head? Curse of Kylie.

[DJ]

Dog was one.

[Co-host 1]

Cat Dog was one I used to watch.

[DJ]

You had a different TV than me?

[Co-host 2]

No, that was on.

[Trevor Jackson]

You didn't watch Crazy Cali Dog?

[DJ]

I don't even know who the hell that is.

[Trevor Jackson]

The purple dog. You've seen him before, right?

[Co-host 2]

Oh, yeah.

[Trevor Jackson]

Courage. Yeah. You did say you didn't like tv.

[DJ]

I didn't. Well, I didn't watch cartoons. I seen him on like a graphic.

[Co-host 2]

You seen him?

[Trevor Jackson]

Yeah. You seen him?

[DJ]

Yeah. I never watched the show.

[Co-host 2]

That was one of the shows across the network. That was between the shows you wanted to watch. Yeah, exactly.

[DJ]

I'm going go back and Rugress though. Rugrass is great banger.

[Co-host 2]

Rugrass is classic.

[DJ]

Was my guy. What's the one with my boy Cartman, man?

[Co-host 2]

Oh, South Park.

[Trevor Jackson]

South park or Rick and Morty?

[Co-host 2]

South Park.

[Co-host 1]

What's the other one you said over.

[Trevor Jackson]

Rick and Morty, Ricky. I can't do that. I'm picking Rick and Morty every day.

[DJ]

But I really grew up, like, watching Martin and like that too.

[Co-host 2]

My brother and me.

[Co-host 1]

That's. That was my. My brother and me.

[DJ]

Mr. Cooper.

[Co-host 2]

Yeah. See them type of shows, bro. We don't. I grew up even like Malcolm and Eddie like that. Like, man, we don't get that no more, man.

[DJ]

I remember Doug on everything.

[Co-host 2]

I remember Morty, Ricky, Morty.

[Trevor Jackson]

Rick and Morty Ricky.

[Co-host 2]

Morty's dark.

[Trevor Jackson]

You seen that?

[Co-host 1]

No.

[Trevor Jackson]

Oh, you got to give it just one episode. Just watch one episode.

[DJ]

Graphic to you.

[Trevor Jackson]

30 minutes. 30 minutes. One episode. Not even 25.

[Co-host 2]

It's. It's family Guy type humor.

[Trevor Jackson]

Way smarter. Like, the concepts that they're talking about in the show is like, not far from what could be happening. Okay, today I really.

[Co-host 1]

Why we here?

[Co-host 2]

Family Guy or Simpsons?

[Co-host 1]

Family.

[Co-host 2]

Family Guy.

[Trevor Jackson]

My dad would kill me for saying that. My dad loves the Simpsons, but I'll go Family Guy.

[Co-host 2]

Family Guy.

[Co-host 1]

I like Family Guy.

[Trevor Jackson]

I'm able to get into it quicker than Simpsons. Like, if I put a Simpson on Simpsons episode on. I don't. I'm not really into it by like the middle, but Family Guy, like the first two jokes, I'm like, ah, I'm in it, you know?

[Co-host 1]

Wow.

[Co-host 2]

But the Simpsons have been on a very long.

[Co-host 1]

The Family Guy got some jokes, bro.

[Co-host 2]

That are top tier that you can't repeat anywhere else. Seth McFarl is a nut.

[Trevor Jackson]

Simpsons knew the aliens, they knew all the future stuff, bro. They got everything right.

[Co-host 1]

Yeah, that's a fact.

[Co-host 2]

Now earlier show you mentioned know you skateboarded but you hooped as well. You know what I'm saying? Indiana. Kidding. What got you into basketball? Who was your game? What's your game like? Who you?

[Trevor Jackson]

My brother, My brother. I was trying to be like my brother. My brother Ryan Jackson is a Hooper. He's, he's right over there. But he was the first person I ever seen play. My dad made me play and then I loved it and that's how I tore my Achilles. So me and basketball, we got a love hate relationship right now. But I'm gonna get back in there. But I haven't played in two years.

[DJ]

I, yeah, played against any actors, anybody in the entertainment industry.

[Trevor Jackson]

Yeah, yeah, played against Chris. I played against all brother. I had the, the game that I had with the BET Experience. I had the most points, but nobody talked about that. I had 26, Chris had 25. Talk about it, but this was back then. I was like 18, 19.

[Co-host 1]

I'm just saying.

[Trevor Jackson]

And we played, we played at the BET Experience. He found me on the last play.

[Co-host 2]

No, I'm just kidding.

[DJ]

I'm just kidding.

[Trevor Jackson]

I'm still hurt. You can tell I'm still mad.

[Co-host 2]

No, I'm kidding.

[Trevor Jackson]

It was a, it was a great game. They won by a few points, but they were. I didn't get it. No, no, love. Trevor had the most points but he's not even playing the whole of the whole thing. 26.

[Co-host 2]

Oh, let's talk about it.

[DJ]

The only person I really hear talk about hoop is like Tank.

[Trevor Jackson]

Yeah.

[DJ]

And Jay Valentine. They always.

[Trevor Jackson]

I play with Jay. I play with Jay sometimes.

[DJ]

Jake and hoop.

[Trevor Jackson]

Jake and hoop.

[Co-host 1]

Nah, he said it.

[Co-host 2]

Have you been on R B money podcast?

[Podcast Advertiser]

Yeah.

[Co-host 2]

Okay, so you go give us a real answer now.

[DJ]

Jake and hoop shout out to my boy.

[Co-host 1]

What's the score?

[Trevor Jackson]

Me and Jay. Yeah, one on one. Where we going to? 11, 13, 11, 11. We're going to be like 11, 8.

[Co-host 2]

Okay.

[Trevor Jackson]

11, 11, 7.

[Co-host 1]

Okay.

[DJ]

Jake a hoop then Jake a hoop. Respect.

[Trevor Jackson]

Yeah, man.

[Co-host 1]

Now Tank.

[Trevor Jackson]

I miss it though. I miss, I miss.

[Co-host 1]

Nah, Tank.

[DJ]

Tank talk about hoop all the time.

[Co-host 1]

Like I seen, I seen some footage, you know, that's homie nah.

[Co-host 2]

Damn.

[DJ]

Coming from you, it's a little different.

[Trevor Jackson]

Different?

[DJ]

You call everybody sad. No, no, no, I'm saying I'm not, not talking about NBA. Well, I'm just talking about like in the Entertainment.

[Trevor Jackson]

I was one of the best. I think people Entertainment that, that played basketball when I, When I was at your peak.

[Co-host 1]

When I was at my peak right now, obviously I don't count Davies because he played college basketball.

[DJ]

Yeah.

[Co-host 1]

But like, Chris Brown was probably the best I've seen.

[DJ]

Chris Brown.

[Co-host 1]

Yeah. I had never seen bro hoop.

[Podcast Advertiser]

Quo.

[DJ]

Quo got game.

[Trevor Jackson]

He ain't better than Chris, though. But Quo can hoop.

[DJ]

Oh, no. Nle Chopper can hoop.

[Co-host 1]

No, he can. He can better than.

[Trevor Jackson]

Better than Chris. Because I, I, I just, I've seen him play more, but I'm. He's.

[DJ]

I love Chris, but I'm just saying he can hoop.

[Trevor Jackson]

He got a jumper.

[DJ]

Nle can. Nle can hoop, bro. He can hoop. He got game.

[Trevor Jackson]

Cuz sometimes I feel like people are young and athletic, but can he?

[DJ]

You know, I just seen him play against. He might hoop with Gilly and there.

[Co-host 2]

Yeah, he break down game.

[Co-host 1]

You think he Gilly? Where Gilly at? I think Chris might be better than Gilly.

[DJ]

Yeah, for sure. Chris Brown's definitely better than Gilly. He can't shoot better.

[Co-host 1]

Nah, Gilly can shoot.

[Co-host 2]

Gill can.

[DJ]

He could definitely shoot that pill.

[Trevor Jackson]

So.

[DJ]

Damn, Trey, we gotta start bringing you up in conversation.

[Co-host 1]

Yeah, man.

[Trevor Jackson]

Come on, man. I'm gonna get my leg back. I'll show you. I'll show you. It's mental now, bro. I feel like my leg is back, but mentally I'm not back yet. Yeah, I'm still hurt, but man.

[Co-host 2]

Yeah, he didn't hurt open gym, you.

[Trevor Jackson]

Know what I'm saying? On the day that I decided to.

[DJ]

Stretch, you know, he did the same thing I did off returg this thing. Act like he had no health.

[Trevor Jackson]

Which one?

[Co-host 2]

This one right here.

[DJ]

And walked home.

[Trevor Jackson]

How long was your recovery process? But how long would you tell? Could you not walk for?

[Co-host 2]

I couldn't walk by myself for probably about a month.

[Trevor Jackson]

I had like five.

[DJ]

Did you go to the hospital after it happened?

[Trevor Jackson]

Yeah, and it was so bad.

[DJ]

Ask him when he went to the hospital.

[Co-host 2]

Oh, I went to the hospital, but my insurance told me, I told in December. Right. And they was like, yeah. So doctors for you broke. We don't work right now now. So we back in office after the first year. So, you know, I had to, you know what I'm saying? I. I did my own rehab.

[DJ]

You know what I'm saying? I was just walking.

[Trevor Jackson]

Sorry, bro.

[Co-host 2]

Get insurance, go to the doctor.

[Trevor Jackson]

That absolutely.

[Co-host 1]

That absolutely safe to say his ACL still tore.

[DJ]

Still ain't right.

[Trevor Jackson]

Careful, man.

[Co-host 2]

Hey, listen, to the hospital, they tell.

[DJ]

You that today is crazy would be.

[Co-host 2]

I'm a sham.

[Trevor Jackson]

Got away.

[DJ]

You know how poor you gotta be.

[Co-host 2]

I a give a.

[DJ]

To go somewhere.

[Trevor Jackson]

Get your money.

[Co-host 1]

Get it out the mug.

[Co-host 2]

Oh, man, that is hilarious. Yeah, getting hurt doing recreational is the fortunate work.

[Trevor Jackson]

I had to shoot grownish with a. A peg leg. I look like Captain Barbosa, bro. Walking through set, dude. Literally, I had to shoot. We have five episodes left. And then I had to go on tour. So yeah, I still win. I still did it. And that's something too. Like I don't care. I'm. I'm gonna get it done. Yeah, but it definitely was a hill I had to get over. And I was kind of in the lowest point of my life again. That's when this, all this music came. And yeah, all of it kind of turned me into the person I am now. And I would do it a billion times again to. To be where I'm at today, mentally, physically, spiritually. You know, I would tear my Achilles a million times again. Cuz I needed to sit down. That's what everybody that knew me was saying. They're like, oh, God's just telling you to take a minute. Moving too fast.

[Co-host 2]

Yeah, but God, you could have seen us on vacation, brother. I would have. I would have went to Ruben.

[Trevor Jackson]

That's why I said.

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[Trevor Jackson]

We could have figured something else out.

[Co-host 2]

If I needed to.

[Trevor Jackson]

Just said, sit down.

[Co-host 2]

Yeah, I would have done it.

[Co-host 1]

Oh, God.

[DJ]

Oh, Lord.

[Trevor Jackson]

Y hard.

[Co-host 2]

Listen, we know you a busy man, man. What you got coming up soon for us, brother?

[Trevor Jackson]

Hey, man, I'm probably going to go on tour maybe around April time. Still on Grey's Anatomy every Thursday. Please check that out and go get the album. Goodbye. The greatest breakup album of all time. And we just going to keep going. Shout out Nap Town. Shout out you guys again. Congratulations for this, man. Thanks for having me. Let this be the first of many. For sure, brother.

[Co-host 2]

We appreciate you, man. Keep killing for sure, man. Before we get out of here, be here and tell the people they can.

[DJ]

Grab some merch shop club520.com baby.

[Co-host 2]

You know the vibes, man. Shout out to the good people over at Stockx, man. Shout out to Boost Mobile. Man Chime Making money moves. Making money moves right here, man. My boy got hurt still. We ain't got that money. You know the vibe.

[Trevor Jackson]

Got to do it.

[Co-host 2]

Listen, we appreciate y'. All. We'll catch y' all next time. Club 520, the volume.

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[Co-host 2]

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[Trevor Jackson]

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[Co-host 2]

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[Trevor Jackson]

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[Co-host 1]

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[Trevor Jackson]

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[Co-host 2]

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